Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins dissect the Republican Party’s fractured loyalty—Trump’s mafia-like suppression of dissenters (e.g., MTG’s The View backlash, swatting threats) while rewarding former critics like Lindsey Graham. They link corporate greed (CALM’s egg price hikes, CEO earnings vs. worker wages) to systemic inflation, exposing monopolies (meat processors controlling 85% of the market) and lobbying’s role in eroding capitalism’s checks. Global parallels—Argentina’s 183% food inflation, Mexico’s cartel-driven riots—highlight elite detachment and looming civil unrest, with Jones advocating self-reliance as a flawed counter. The episode ends by urging audience participation amid plans to quadruple broadcasts, blending economic critique with speculative warnings like authoritarian rule and technological dystopia. [Automatically generated summary]
You know, Tim's got an interesting topic, it's something that affects everyone.
It's something that you know, I myself have been really thinking about lately and you know, prepping and how to take into account basic survival needs.
And you need this thing for survival.
I'll save it and we'll leave it, we'll leave it at that until we get to the actual topic.
But a lot of big news tonight that I'm sure you, the callers, are going to want to react to.
So, in about an hour, we're going to take calls.
And usually, on Sundays, we have a guest.
Wasn't able to secure a guest this time for the show.
So, we want to hear what you guys have to think, what you guys have to say.
And we're looking forward to that part of the show.
But, you know, you've been kind of paying attention to the news, right?
You know, with all of the things that are going on with Taylor and Trump and what's going on with that, I'm like, dude, I don't think I've seen this in a hot minute.
The Democrats are just sitting back pretty.
They're just like, oh, keep it coming, guys.
We love to see that fighting.
Let's go.
And they're just chilling in the background and they're just gassing her up essentially, you know?
And like, we're just like, well, you know, it's the Democrats or Republicans will be nice to me.
We can have the country.
Like if the parents will be nice, we have a family, you know, like it's an abusive relationship, right?
And we have to appeal to like the like mystic sage inside of Trump and like the part of his psyche mind that's like playing the 12D chess against Satan and all of that.
But in reality, it's just an old dude that doesn't really care about what he was elected to do, right?
I think it's already happened, but you could see a thing as to like, you know, what happened if Trump had like a heart attack like today and died?
Do in like a year, two years, you're telling me like people like Lindsey Graham aren't trying to take control of the Republican Party and like bring it back.
I mean, look, I thought the first time I really got to see, and maybe he was playing the game, but like when he went on Rogan, I was like, ooh, I like this guy.
I was going to say, like, you know what?
He seems very likable, very relatable.
And I believed, you know, some of the things that he was saying in there.
But again, when you're in the camp of Trump, you know, you have to suppress some of your personality and the things that you would normally do and get in line.
It's just like, oh, like we're going to achieve this mission together because Miriam Adelson gave me all this money.
I have to have you as Secretary of State.
Miriam Idelson wanted Marco Rubio as VP.
And like that's a part of what that money was supposed to buy.
Like this is known.
This isn't even a debate.
That's just the fact.
So we have facts like that that we, the informed political, like the politically inclined part of the public know.
Like how we like this, like this country is just, it's just a story we agree on at the end of the day.
Like all this stuff is next level corrupt, next level crazy, next level fake.
It doesn't matter, right?
Like Trump can deal with Lindsey Graham in the first term or the first campaign where Lindsey's trying to get him like kicked off the ballot and stuff.
And now they're golfing buddies and best friends and all the people that loved and supported Trump like throughout the years throughout COVID.
I just need like three or four more minutes on this.
Specifically, to make the connection, when we talk about all these people, we have the most disloyal, crazy, evil swamp creatures that he has put in his cabinet or that he has endorsed.
You got people like Lindsey Graham.
You got people like Kash Patel.
You got people like, let me think.
Let me think for a little while, guys.
Trump's got people like Howard Luttnick and Scott Bassett.
He's got George Soros, who's former front guy that helped him take down entire countries' economies.
That's who's in charge of our economics department.
We've got Ted Cruz, who he famously called Lion Ted, you know, and he said, Your wife is a dog.
Imagine you have a wife and you're a senator, and then someone running against you for president goes, Your wife is a dog.
She's a dog.
But see, he takes it because he's good boy.
And then good boy stays in office and gets to go to Cancun on vacation and get the APAC money.
Like it's all fake.
And the deal that I think that they gave Trump, which is what I said before on the show, is they go, look, you want, like, we all hated you and you beat us.
And we're either going to kill you or you can just be the new leader of this two-party duopoly that we have.
You can just be the new Reagan, essentially.
That's the deal they offered him.
And I think he said yes to that.
But there were people that weren't informed on that.
There are people that weren't informed and were inclined on Trump becoming the new Reagan.
There are people that actually wanted Trump to do what he said he was going to do.
People like Tucker Carlson, people like Candace Owens, people like my dad, people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, right?
Yeah, it's whoever's most convenient that aligns somewhat with where the direction of they want to push their audience and all the things that they can do with that.
So she's been someone that's been as America first as is possible.
She's someone that has really, really been graceful when it came to like both not supporting Trump's policies that were wrong, like the Epstein thing, right?
She was a part of that big victims march.
And they really didn't like that.
Because if you're a Republican, if you're a congresswoman or a man or a senator, it's like, hey, like, we're not doing this.
Like, we, we, we said, like, they said, like, he didn't traffic any said.
And if you're that deal, then you should be quiet and we'll get you re-elected in MAGA.
That's what MAGA means.
That's, that's, like, he'll hydrogen MAGA.
Like, after that conversation, that makes it all okay.
And when Trump came out and said all those things about it and essentially invalidated it and called people, he called them like Democrat hoaxers.
And because it's a Democrat hoax and you're a Democrat hoaxer if you put it out.
Someone in chat will have the exact, will have the exact language he used.
If anyone remembers what specifically was said, I'd really appreciate it.
But at the end of the day, like he said, this is not to be questioned.
And then she comes out and she's like, I'm still questioning it.
I'm here with the victims.
And it's about the victims and getting peace for the victims.
Then the speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, comes out and he goes, well, we can't release everything because that would hurt the thousand victims.
So no one needs to know about it.
And like when they say that, they have special units that like look through the shit at the FBI, like the worst stuff on the internet that look through all the garbage.
But then she's brave enough to go out there and work hard about getting it released.
And let's go to some of the stuff that she said on the view because the thing that really popped this cherry of this whole situation was the thing that really buttered the biscuit here with she went on the view, right?
She went on the view and she said some things that are like mildly critical of Trump.
And that just made him go thermonuclear war.
So let me rewind this video really quick and we'll go to it.
I imagine they got to have some room that has a TV in the White House where like everyone sits around and like just like watches the news, especially with this administration.
This could, I like what she's doing here because she knows this is potentially political suicide.
And she's still going out there and being critical because there's probably enough people that agree with her from the Republican base that will probably back her up.
I think she'll win reelection, you know, and we're going to go a little bit further in here where it appears like there may be some sort of like backtrack apology or something, but she's been under a lot of pressure because of this entire.
When you're in the establishment media infrastructure, it's not like a guy in a suit comes on.
He goes, these are talking boys.
You can't talk about anything else.
That's not what happens.
It's the people you play tennis with.
It's the people at the club.
It's the people you drink with.
It's the culture, right?
So anything that gets fed to these women through the osmosis of the culture is what they're ultimately going to repeat because that's their job, just like any news anchor, right?
Just like anyone, man or woman, they all do that.
But you look at MTG, MTG is expressing, you know, an original opinion, an opinion that the voters share.
Whenever a politician, whenever a politico in general goes on a show like this, they're doing it to gain social capital.
They're doing it to raise, you know, their identity up.
They're doing it to validate the, like, what they're presenting to other people.
They're like, hey, if you agree with me, this is what I represent.
And the video that I watched, it basically said that's part of his strategy.
If you read his books, if you listen to his speeches well before he got into the presidency, these are all tactics that he's been employing within the presidency that have framed his entire existence of who he is and how he runs his politics.
Well, the thing is, coming after her like this in a big way, which we're going to get to, and let's just go ahead and pull a little bit of the exposition on this.
This is cat turd, of course, like four or six million followers.
I forget, giant, huge, paid profiteer, war profiteer off of the destruction of MAGA.
Marjorie Taylor Green went on Bill Maher and threw every one of us and Trump under the bus.
I couldn't find clips of that.
So she could be popular on the left because she wants to be a star.
Then she went to this person's Hollywood party and bragged about it.
There's no words to describe how much I despise her now.
All right.
This lady's a mom of three boys, entrepreneur.
Ooh, the gay flag.
Oh, we can't have that.
It world over.
The world is over.
She can never be elected.
She has to be thrown in a pit, actually.
And we have to cover it with concrete.
Is she blue if she ever goes out?
I'm not talking about her.
I'm talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
See, Marjorie Taylor Greene went to her house.
And because she went to her house, she's the most evil person that's ever existed.
When Trump brings the fucking terrorist leader, the Al Julani, Kobe, like leader of fucking Al-Qaeda.
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She drained threes with the draining threes with these military guys.
But see, Cat Turt, he doesn't get upset about that.
He doesn't care about that at all.
That's not a big deal.
That's my president.
That's my leader.
That's my hero, Trump.
That's what he says, the boomer.
But I mean, he's fine with him bringing a terrorist to the White House.
But MTG, because she went to a lady who, I guess, supports gay people somehow by putting the pride flag in her bio, because she went to her house one time for some sort of party.
Like that, there's no words to describe how much he despises her now.
He's able to get, he's that bought into the system.
He's that connected to it that it triggers his like, like systemic organism response, right?
You know, the worst part about all of this, even us talking about this, or even like some of the coverage, like I can go back, watch a couple of videos, and like you could just be critical of just somebody on the right just because it's a bad policy, but just merely making this statement, people would be like, oh, you're Democrat.
You're being paid by these people.
And it's like, you're not even allowed to say any of these things.
Otherwise, look, just goes to show we're not paid actors, guys.
We're just out here speaking our truth at the end of the day.
So, when somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's now catering to the other side, I don't know what, you know, I guess she's, you know, got some catering to the other, catering to what is saying, catering to the other side of the base that isn't retarded.
But, like, who look, I'm not trying to diss Trump.
It's not like my dad now.
I'm not hating on Trump, but seriously, like, it's he does the worst thing possible in every situation.
This is from like tonight when I was on the computer.
I was finding these.
MTG.
The hoax pizza deliveries have started now to my house and to my family members.
Update.
We also received a pipe bomb threat on my construction company's office building.
President Trump's unwarranted and vicious attacks against me were a dog whistle, the dangerous radicals that could lead to serious attacks on me and my family.
Unfortunately, I've been down this road before.
As a matter of fact, as I campaigned all over the country and defended President Trump, I received dozens of swatting calls on my house and on my family members' homes along with these hoax pizza deliveries.
But even more severely, I received some of the most death threats, a little error there in her writing.
Most death threats of any member of Congress that have led to multiple men being convicted and serving time in prison.
And all of that came from the left.
Now that President Trump has called me a traitor, which is absolutely untrue and horrific, Mark Levin has been calling me a traitor.
And so have other prominent, likely paid social media activists.
This puts blood in the water and creates a feeding frenzy, and it could ultimately lead to a harmful or even deadly outcome.
It could.
It could.
I mean, like, Rand Paul was at a baseball game and it got shot up by somebody.
This happens to people in the legislative branch.
Also, the timing of this just happens to be days before we take the vote and release the Epstein files.
I love America, American people, and I swear oath to uphold the Constitution.
However, when the president of the United States irresponsibly calls a member of Congress of his own party a traitor, he is signaling what must be done to a traitor.
I fought harder than anyone to help President Trump get elected, and I support his administration, the promises made along the campaign.
I'm a Republican in good standing.
I paid all my dues to the NRCC.
My voting record is one of the most conservative in Congress.
I'm proud of that.
Toxic and dangerous rhetoric and politics must end.
We need healing in this country for all Americans.
And then, like, we know what this is.
If you're on the internet, like, you understand, right?
Because if they don't whack-a-mole and squash her here, then somebody else gets to go up on the view and somebody else goes and makes another statement.
And then Trump is starting to slip on his position and realize that he's really having cracks within his base.
So what he's doing is he's trying to pass as much as he can before that happens because the writing is on the wall, you know?
And it's crazy because like at some point, I was like, okay, well, it probably won't be a bad thing for the Republicans to have control of the house, control of the house, and control of the Senate.
But like now, you can even see the people who are in Congress are like struggling to even vote in favor of some of the things that he's trying to pass.
I remember in 2008, I was probably like six years old, but I'm old enough to remember just a tiny bit of it.
And I remember when Obama got elected that whole year, everyone was kind of like, it's kind of like now, where like they expected him to do a bunch of stuff.
And then, you know, obviously financial crisis and all that is a big factor.
But like there was a drop off in positive interest for sure with Obama after that first year.
And I think we're kind of going through that now.
You know, Trump's first term, 2017, 2018 was amazing.
And if we just had that money at home, like you're not going to be able to tell me that somehow that money is all is like they needed it so incredible.
It'll make them win the war.
But then at the same time, if we take that money back home, then oh, it's not really a lot of money.
I know a lot of people take the stance of being like, all right, well, why are we spending all this money?
I think what the argument is for spending the money is, and we'll talk about the global supply chain here in a little bit when I go through my deep dive.
The world is so interconnected.
And depending on who's in control, depending on where is depends on how good of a deal you get and how good it is for America itself.
We like to get really good deals and we like it cheap, right?
So if you've got a scenario where potentially we should have never even gotten to the Ukraine war, right, to begin with, but let's say Russia controls a certain region.
You think they're going to give us the best deal versus Ukraine?
I mean, I feel like it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, right?
Like, we go over there, we fuck with them in what they perceive to be their backyard.
And then, like, after this hypothetical situation, which is what I believe will happen, after Ukraine loses, we're supposed to go to Russia and be like, well, you know, that was fun.
You won.
Now let's work together, which I think is actually that is America's attitude.
And that's why we're so globally hated because nothing is more insulting and demeaning than like after you were to lose, let's say, like a pickup game of basketball, you're like, oh, yeah, man.
So we, so I did a segment on this, but for a quick reminder, back in 2021, right, when or 2022, whenever this whole Ukraine-Russia thing happened and, you know, we blew up the pipe, we blew up the pipeline.
We had all the instability that came with the oil, the raw, the oil prices.
You know, to speak to your point, both of these are forms of war, right?
So Biden is giving the Ukrainians a lot of physical weapons, but at the same time, he's trying to stabilize global trade in that respect when it comes to the oil.
Trump is trying to be like, I'm not involved, not giving them weapons, not doing that anymore.
But he's trying to use economic warfare on other countries.
They have polar opposite agendas where they just have to undo whatever the previous administration did just because you spite that person and you hate them.
That's where a lot of it comes down that like you've got to be all blue or you got to be all red.
And when you switch things so quickly each time, how do you're supposed to build on top of it, not tear the whole card and rebuild it again?
And I think you see Trump, you know, and the sad, the sad thing is, you know, maybe it's not sad, but whatever.
Like you see Trump as kind of like maybe last way out of ragging ball from this system when in fact he's like the cherry on top of the whole system, right?
Because he's willing to use the power that's been built up.
It was always thought no one would be this brash.
No one would be this, you know, insane with what they do.
A thousand percent tariff, you know, 500%.
Because I decided I just say so, which I believe is unconstitutional now that I've done my research on it.
You just, you end up in a situation where like whoever gets into office next, they are the dictator because Trump was the dictator, right?
You know what?
It sucks so hard to have to admit that the shit libs were right because all the stuff I'm saying now, like the bad stuff about Trump, unfortunately, like I voted for him twice.
Like I believed in this man for a decade, basically.
All the stuff that I'm saying about him now, they were saying forever ago.
Of course, it came from like a like misguided, incorrect place.
So like they're calling him a Russian agent and all this, which is just patently not true.
But they were right.
Like he is a narcissist.
He is power hungry.
He doesn't care.
He's not focused.
All these things that they said, you go, no, Trump is the most focused person ever.
He plays Sudoku underwater against Kim Jong-un.
Like, like, no, no, he's just a dude.
He's an old dude.
And you can't put that God complex on anyone because no one is worthy of it.
You know, I really put Trump up on that pedestal and I said, This is my guy.
I, I, like, I, I with his politics, I like him as a person, and then it goes on into the future.
I don't care.
Look, if Trump was the worst person ever and like he got blackmailed and then impeached, but before that, he like fixed the government and like got rid of it or something.
Whatever thing in life you want to be able to see.
Right.
But then obviously in America, it's kind of more of a LARP.
You know, it's live action roleplay.
It's cosplay where you have the Antifa face off, you know, against like the Patriot Front or whatever.
I won't disparage the Proud Boys because they've been, they've had enough stuff going on with them.
They've been put in jail enough for unwarranted reasons.
But you got a group like Patriot Front or Antifa.
It's just like this posturing or posing that you're tough and that you're willing to go out on the street and be an enforcer when in reality, when the cop comes over, you're not going to be like, fuck you, pig.
You're like, I'm sorry, sir.
I'm here for a demonstration.
Like, I've seen it, right?
I've also seen them get violent and get uppity and upset, but that's different context.
And they like, they come out at night, they ambush, they do all sorts of behavior like that.
Broad daylight, these people are down at their nation's like Capitol building and they're fighting the riot police with bolt cutters.
Well, that's the thing is like people ultimately, like most people end up very comfortable in whatever dynamic they're in.
Right.
So like, I'm not, look, I'm not criticizing even the police in this, you know, like there are people on an individual level, but the system they represent is bad and evil and corrupt and wrong.
Right.
But at a certain level, a guy's got to put food on the table for his family.
You know, they might take your stuff to it at a minimum.
I wonder, you know, the terrorists are famous for taking people's like trucks and stuff.
You know, so there was a Mormon family.
I'm not trying to step on your there was a Mormon family that was like taking some sort of trip and they were going through Mexico and they got stopped by the cartel and they like all of them got killed.
If you if you guys are ever in Mexico and you see a truck, couple of trucks that are there stopping people, you better turn around, guys.
Better turn around.
But here's what led to the spark.
Okay.
You've got a mayor.
His name is Carlos Manzo.
Okay.
So Carlos Manzo was an independent mayor for Yurapan, which is like a region in Mexico.
And so he was one of the very few local leaders that was confronting the cartels.
And he was outwardly speaking about the corrupt politicians and the officials and just preaching essentially that they need to dump the swamp essentially and replace all of that.
So he's clearly dissenting against the current status quo.
And they're all crying because they all know he's pretty much dead at that point.
So he was like one of these really popular elect like officials that was that was running.
And he was outspoken.
Like there was a lot of people that agreed with this man.
So he essentially became a martyr after this situation.
And so, you know, before the riots even happened, like you had mentioned before, like the president, Claudia, she had they, a lot of people blamed the government for this.
They were like, he was complaining prior to this event.
He was like, hey, guys, there's a lot of conflict going on here.
And the local police that are supposed to be guarding me aren't doing enough.
And I'm scared for my own safety.
And he was basically making a case and pleading to the government on a federal level, hey, I need more protection.
And so the president at that time just basically said, all right, no, we're going to continue this soft confrontation on strategy with security.
And, you know, she kind of lets the cartels open freely.
So when this guy is assassinated and it's time for the government to basically make an announcement and say, she basically doubles down and she just says that there are no changes to the national security plan.
We're going to operate as status quo.
And then, you know, that's going to piss a lot of people off, guys.
And so this basically confirmed the public's fear where they're like, oh, the government's in bed.
They're not going to do anything.
And the government isn't serious about stopping violence.
So before the riots even began, and Rex pointed this out, she was already putting up barricades outside of the outside of the outside of the palace.
Like she knew that this was going to lead to riots.
And she was like, all right, look, to mitigate the amount of like damage and everything that's going on, let's put up these walls right before they even start protesting.
And so this is like really the whole organization is because of this cartel in bed with politics, Claudia as the president, not really taking it serious.
And then you have Gen Z organizers just like you had in Nepal.
So like we absolutely probably really helped them get this started.
And, you know, like we as a country, like we don't like that lady.
That lady has like done Trump or deals that have angered Trump before.
And, you know, she's done some things and they really want a compliant Latin America.
You see with Argentina, you see what they're doing in Venezuela and by extension, Colombia.
You see all their behavior and posturing.
Like they love places like El Salvador, right?
And they want a lot more places like that down there that have, you know, a very powerful leader, like an autocrat or dictator essentially that runs the place.
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And then they are textbook regime change is what I call this.
Yeah, people are, people are very, well, they're just, people are very disaffected with their leadership in the West.
And like we talk about the MTG thing, like I think Marjorie Taylor Greene represents a large portion of the electorate with the things that she's saying on the view in those clips that we showed.
And then Trump coming out and rebelling so hard against it.
I just see a situation where, you know, who knows how much damage can be done before the midterms.
And I'm sure the answer is a lot, but if we're engaged in a war or some kind of conflict and the midterms come along and the Democrats sweep and they take the House and the Senate, they're going to impeach Trump.
Yes, but like at the end of the day, even though they're having a fraction, the Republicans who don't like Trump would never have the political suicide to impeach them.
These are not the Elise Stephonic type of Republicans.
These are Republicans that are not angry at Trump and willing to side with the Democrats on the basis of being a part of the power structure and being part of the so-called elite.
These are new wave populist politicians that are trying to keep their authenticity to the base in order to get re-elected coming out against Trump.
So it creates some very interesting conflicts where you see situations where, you know, on the Epstein things, like MTG aligning with, you know, the Democrats, quote unquote, on that.
How dare she?
How dare she do that?
How dare she go to the person that's probably not even gay?
How dare she go to the person that's probably not even gay's home?
That's not allowed.
But I got a couple more clips.
Exactly.
I got a couple more clips of MTG and then let's go ahead and start taking callers here.
Guys, if you have a question, if you have a topic specifically, we appreciate that.
And then when you get your call screen, you're going to have the opportunity to say that really quick.
So just say what that is, and we'll be able to see it on our screen.
But we are taking calls tonight on really any geopolitical or whatever you guys want to talk about.
Maybe it's whatever we've spoken about tonight, whatever is burning on your mind, whatever you're seeing on the internet that you want us to talk about.
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And, you know, we've had people like New Greiper and Raj call in.
We've had people that are really educated on their viewpoint and want to represent their viewpoint in the best possible way.
And, like, that's that's what I've really, you know, I don't want to say surprised by.
I've really been thrilled by that when we get people to call in.
We're not just having someone that has, you know, a couple of lines that they're trying to say or a talking point they're interested in.
They're really breaking down at a high level, you know, like what they're politically motivated about and what they're inspired by and what upsets them.
And that's what we want.
So every time we have a long conversation with the viewers, we really think you guys are phenomenal callers.
I guess they turned it on a couple of weeks before they shot Truck Kirk.
Right.
And so I think that whole situation with the assassination was more of a test to see whether or not they could get a well, I think they're trying to sell the necessity for the police state, but based off of everybody's responses, right?
And I think that they were throwing more fuel on the anti-Semitism stuff.
I mean, hyping it and hyping it and hyping it, trying to get that Streisand effect just so they could show that America is just full of all this and all that, ultimately to fuel, I guess, the next phase of Gideon.
Well, the game plan's always been mass data collection.
And the thing was, and is they've done it forever, but they never truly had the machinery to actually comb through everything and have actionable data off of it.
What is there's a there's that there's Palantir there's Oracle there's there's yeah all these companies open AI and they all have government contracts is it isn't that nice and they tell us you know my dad makes this point they tell us that um humans are bad because we have carbon waste and all this, but they want to build data centers that'll use twice the power we currently use on the earth for everyone.
You know, I think I've seen, I've seen some weird behavioral characteristics in, because I live in Seattle, most capital or most vaccinated county in all of the United States.
I see some very bizarre behaviors these days.
Not quite certain how to quite frame it, but I think they're experimenting in real time with like how to control people with the nanotech.
Seattle is a very sedated, mellow, puffy coat wearing Subaru driving, voting blue, doing nothing but obeying every authoritarian figure that they possibly can.
It's a very submissive state.
It really is.
And like outside the city limits, everybody's God fearing and it's completely red.
And so they just go to church on Sundays.
They work Monday through Friday.
They take care of their families.
There's that.
And then there's the liberals here.
But there's no Cowboys and Indians and shit and wild people here.
Those are all killed off by the shot.
So I think I'm probably the most, as you would describe in the city.
But like I do see strange behaviors from what I've seen before.
I'm not saying that I'm an expert in the matter, but when Their overall agenda was like humans are hackable animals.
Why would they do all this?
Why would they lower all the towers to the roosts?
You know, there's just this agenda, this technocracy.
So I think the second golden age is just us just getting spoon fed or enslavement.
I, I would rather do the genetically created organ over what China is doing, where they're literally stealing them off of young people right, like they're they.
I don't think they're, you know, I see them doing the no-kings protests.
I see protesting happening.
What really has to happen, guys, to be to be quite frank, is something dramatic that really destabilizes America as a whole to where there's no option but to replace that.
Like, for an example, you've got like what happened in Nepal were literal riots.
I don't think we're quite there yet because at the end of the day, even if we were to do something, Americans are docile enough that that wouldn't last long enough.
And we have enough comforts that it would be like, you still got to get back to work.
So I don't think we get to the whole civil war thing.
I know people have promised that.
I think what ends up happening is we might just be in the long haul for the next three years.
Okay.
That's how I really see this thing playing out.
And I think people would probably get so sick of it that in the 2028 election, the new candidates will have no choice but to make the right decisions after the last two presidents really royally.
And, you know, Nimrod Pod, the way I address your question is by saying, you know, Tim talks about, you know, pushback from left and center, right?
And the no-kings riots or rallies or whatever you want to call them and that, that kind of thing and possibly, you know, like riots or something like that being the thing that might generate some sort of change.
I agree with him on that, but I think what's more likely to happen and what we're seeing happen is the complete fracture of the Republican, you know, MAGA base and the people that are true MAGA, real MAGA, which I believe means America first, to be honest with you, people that are of that mindset, they're breaking with Trump because Trump didn't do the things that they elected him to do.
And this is what I see universally across the board.
And I think the way that we get out of this and make change possible, I think if truly, if 50% of the Republican base stood up and said, no, you lied to us about Epstein files, you lied to us about the wars, lied to us about inflation, economy getting better, prices going down.
I mean, he's literally saying, like, we're going to get into this.
He's saying food is cheaper.
Food is cheaper.
Food is way more expensive.
It's way more expensive.
But he's fine with being at the White House and being at Mar-a-Lago and having Benny Johnson come and like supplicate himself to him because he feels like he's in power if he does that.
If half of the base stands up and says no, and if we get referendums on elections like Massey and like MTG, where they still win, even after all of his pressure and campaigns against them, I think we may actually see him start to take some sort of better direction.
And, you know, I really agree with that argument in the first term.
And that's what people said about him.
Of course, he was dealing with the Russia hoax, which was a giant fat hoax.
It wasn't true.
And they railroaded him with that for years.
But in this second term, I just don't like being told that Lindsey Graham is more MAGA than me.
I don't like being told that Ted Cruz is more MAGA than me.
I don't like being told that any of these swamp creatures are more MAGA than me or MTG or my dad or anyone like that.
And it just seems to me like Trump has a pathological need to be liked.
And maybe he had good intentions, sure.
But ultimately, he wasn't interested in winning the affection from those who already gave it to him.
He wanted it from the people that denied him.
And now that he's been kind of put into the in-club of like the real elite circle of who goes to these like tuxedo dinners, like that's, that's how he always saw himself.
And he's a lot more skeptical based off of what he experienced in his first term.
I think there's a lot less of those people.
And I think that everyone who, just like a, you know, MGT that does that, if they don't fall in line, he's coming after you or he's just sending his dogs after you so that you can get in line.
I think there's a high level of like narcissism that comes into this, you know, that he doesn't think that he's actually in the wrong.
And, you know, this guy has been operating at a very high level.
I got to give him his flowers.
He's a very good salesman.
He's a very good person to be able to gallonize people and to get you to believe whatever it is that his agenda of what he wants you to, because that's what he's done his whole career.
Actually, you know, I read Vivek's book, Truths, sitting on my bedstand, and I really loved it when he challenged Trump in the primaries in 2024.
But after seeing him kind of show his true colors, I have changed my mind a little bit.
And there's guys like James Fishback.
I'm not sure if you guys are familiar.
He's going to be challenging Byron Donald's in Florida for the gubernatorial race.
And he's just as well spoken and has all the talking points like Vivek, but he's actually speaking to issues that Gen Z, like my generation, actually cares about that actually affects us.
James Fishback, I highly recommend looking into him.
Newsmax offered to host a debate with him and Byron Donalds.
Byron refused.
He's doing like a TPUSA tour, and he keeps going to UF and FSU, all these different schools in Florida, and their College of Republicans and their TPUSA chapters are saying, okay, if you're going to bring Byron Donalds and Benny Johnson here, you have to also bring James Fishback because we want to see Fishback.
We're going to vote for Fishback.
He represents our generation.
We're coming to our school.
We're backing him.
And Byron Donaldson is refusing to acknowledge him.
And, you know, I think once he officially throws his hat in the ring, I think he could do some serious damage.
But like in general, I think he throws a lot of common sense policies out there.
I think he has run the, and you can probably speak to this better than I can, but I think he's run Florida relatively well over the course of his term.
You talk about the party dynamics there of the GOP.
You got DeSantis supporting one guy and then Trump, therefore MAGA base supporting another guy.
This is another one of those bellwether elections like MTG's election, like Massey's election that really shows, you know, how much, what is Trump's grip on the Republican base right now?
We're going to find out imminently.
It's going to be very interesting to see.
In closing, where can people find your show, your podcast?
So there's been a little more elaboration on a couple of things, right?
So why Jesse on Fire is covering these?
I don't know, but the guy is doing some real phenomenal work.
So that's why he's like, oh, the dog that hasn't, the dog that hasn't barked is Trump, where Epstein is saying that.
He spent hours with Virginia or whatever at his house.
So that email comes out on 4, I think it's 410 or 4.2, 2011.
That's about a month after an article came out in the Daily Mail, I believe, where Virginia Roberts at the time, who becomes Euphray, she becomes public as that she is Jane Doe 102.
So that email follows a month after Virginia Roberts goes public.
The other thing that is really interesting is I believe it was Kyle McBreen referenced that dog that the dog that hasn't barked is actually a play on Sherlock Holmes in a story where the dog does not bark because he knows the person that is breaking into the house.
And the dog obviously doesn't bark because he recognizes the person.
So if you read into that email, Epstein is saying Trump is the one that told on him because he's the guy that knew that Virginia had been spending the time at the house.
So that, so that kind of like puts me at ease a little bit.
Where I do believe if he was actually involved with the underage girls that would have been out there.
So I do not believe he is.
I do believe it has something to do with Israel.
Because if you pay attention to when the stuff started coming out or when the Epstein stuff started becoming a big deal, it was right before the bombing of Iran.
And it was right before that big, beautiful bill.
So something happened between the passing of the big, beautiful bill, the bombing of Iran, and this whole Epstein saga, where some concessions had to be made.
And it was also that it was also shortly after Ukraine had launched that sneak attack inside of Russia where they took out like half of their bomber fleet.
And that's all of a sudden when our foreign policy started going, start like, what are we doing?
Because as you're dealing with these countries, if they cannot trust you, like basically what we want the world to believe is we were not tipped off that Ukraine was going to attack Russia in that manner.
If that had been done to our, look, I did 20 years in the military.
If that had happened in the United States, we would have launched all hell on whatever country was responsible for that.
So something is going on where our foreign policy, like if you talk about where Trump could like gain support back, if he ended the war in Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine, overnight he would jump probably 10 points.
If you get the whole story, then the system doesn't work anymore.
Part of the reason why everything has to be on a certain level of secrecy.
You've got top secret clearances.
It's not just the international and China and Russia can't know these specific things.
It's like the system works on these shadow situations going on where the power plays.
Here's the thing.
I really thought about this the other night.
The only reason why politicians and like these George Soros characters really do all this stuff is because there's a certain point where like as when you're making money, there's only but so much that the money can buy you in terms of enjoyment.
Yeah, once you have all the money in the world to do whatever you want, you no longer have that thing to like strive for.
So the only thing to go after at that point is power and being able to just move people like chess pieces because that's the only thing that gets you a high.
Like as you're building your business, as you're making money, you've got that enjoyment.
I just think it's a certain level of boredom that comes in where you've already climbed the mountain.
It's like, okay, what's the next mountain to climb after this situation?
And I think that literally comes down to the fact of like, okay, well, I just have to control a bunch of people because that's the only move at that point.
So I used to believe, and you know, that's just my experience.
Like even being in the military, you got people that, you know, they got no control at home.
Their wives are cheating on them or their kids are running all over them.
So they have to be a jerk off at work.
And so you do have people like that that just need to have that control, you know, basically be a micromanager.
But I disagree.
I just think that these are like some actually evil people, like Soros, for example.
If you go back and watch that 60 minutes interview with him, he basically says when he's, he's the interviewer is asking him, hey, you know, you were going out with this so-called protector of yours and you were confiscating stuff from actual Jews pretending to be a Christian.
And, you know, this is stuff that would send somebody to the psychiatric chair.
And he goes, well, no, actually, that's probably when my character was formed.
And, you know, it's sort of like markets.
If I wasn't doing it, somebody else would have been doing it.
And I think certain people are like, why they have a, where they have trouble believing that people are this bad is because they're actually good.
And no, you wouldn't do it or your mom or your dad wouldn't do it, but they would do it.
And unfortunately, bad people, because good people don't want to have anything to do with control.
Eisenhower said, you got to be crazy or egomaniac to run for president because he didn't want to do it.
He was just sought to do it.
And he's like, okay, well, I agree with the Republicans more, so I'll become a Republican.
But he didn't want to be president.
And it goes back to George Washington, same thing.
He didn't want to be president.
And they wanted to make him king.
He didn't want to be a king.
So I think that there just so happened to be like there's a bunch of bad people that want to get into these positions of power.
Now, what I will say is, you know, for the longest time, when people, when I would hear people like, oh, the troops are going to be used against the American people, I used to laugh because I know what happened in Iraq and I know what happened in Afghanistan.
Sure, you can do a lot of damage and destroy and overthrow a country, but it's almost impossible to control a country.
And we only have like one, we have like 1.5 complete million active troops altogether.
If you can talk about all branches, and there's like 18 million combat veterans, there's 350 million people in the country.
I used to always laugh at that, that the military couldn't, could not, they couldn't occupy a state, let alone a country.
However, what I saw, what I see going on, like with these videos inside of Ukraine with these drones, it's starting to make sense to me why they have been so arrogant in the last four or five years with their policies, with what they say, the way that they talk to us.
It's like they know something that we don't know, and we have no ability to really fight back.
And that does scare me.
And I see with the AI control grid, people really like your Rex, your dad does a very good job in saying, stop asking for a civil war, stop talking about fighting back, because that's the last thing you want in this country.
Because a lot of people are going to suffer.
You do not want that.
And for the leftists out there, we do not want to be, we don't want to have a conflict with you because what is unlike what I see happening is either because Napoleon is a reaction to the French Revolution.
Hitler and Stalin are reactions to, and Lenin more so than Stalin, but they're reactions to what happens inside the Germany post-World War I and the Soviet Union post-World War I.
So those dictators arise to fill a vacuum.
So while you think you're going to have fun in your communist overthrows, be careful what you wish for because you're going to get somebody.
Some guy's going to come out of some Green Beret is going to come out of Idaho or Montana and he's going to tell people he's going to put stuff back to the way it used to be and people are just going to follow him.
And the control grid that is that's already there and is being built, whoever ends up in power is going to rule with an iron fist and there's really going to be nothing anybody can do about it.
So you understand how it works from a top-down control system.
And I think a lot of the people here, especially, you know, like the liberals that we make fun of and like the moderates, they see the world kind of as, you know, a video game where there are real, like no real consequences.
And we kind of, oh, like, there's always going to be food.
And, you know, everyone really wants to be nice to each other.
You know, everyone really wants to be everyone's friend.
When in reality, like these people, what's coming, you talk about the drone warfare, and you talk about like you understand military and whatnot.
When they don't need to actually put people on the streets, when they can just send drones with guns or explosives on them to suppress a crowd, I mean, you talk about us getting a new strong man, we're going to get a new strong man.
That's what's going to happen because people aren't going to realize what they're voting for.
And then, when that person comes in power, they're going to use these systems to control the population.
And no one has any concept of how bad it will be.
No one knows.
And we talk about, you know, you talk about someone working in the fields and taking a job away from an American or something.
You say an American might not want to do that job.
What happens when the robots are doing all those jobs?
But the way I see it, I'm not trying to step on your point.
I see it as some sort of civil collapse, right?
And then the civil collapse happens, the power goes out, right?
There's no food, there's no supply chain.
Then, when that goes on for a long enough time, combined with a foreign problem, a foreign war, someone comes in and says, Hey, I need autocratic powers, I'm going to fix everything.
That only happens if, let's say, World War III happens, you go at war with, let's say, China, and they go beyond just like fighting these proxy wars and fighting in distant lands.
It's like when China decides to turn on the light switch with whatever plan they have to like destroy our infrastructure as far as like, because our power grids are sensitive, dude, I think we do this to ourselves.
I'm just saying, if that were me, and if you were putting, you know, if you were putting people in my backyard, I would have a problem with it.
So, it's treat people the way you want to be treated.
Um, I see the threat more inward, and I actually disagree in the sense that okay, don't be there.
We're very close to a collapse.
Yes, it's one bad thing, and they've been smart in where they collapse different parts of society separate from each other.
So, it's nobody sees that they have a common interest.
Where first, hey, we're we'll destroy cities, then we'll ship your jobs overseas, and then the AI's, then the robots are going to take your job.
But so, each per each group suffers differently and in different time periods.
And then, all of a sudden, because it's not just inner when you're talking about the people that were missing the health, um, whose healthcare costs were jumping, it wasn't people in the inner city, it was a bunch of people in southern states that were unfortunately lured into, hey, um, we're going to hook you up with this healthcare in 2021, and they get addicted to it.
They don't see that, hey, in a couple of years, these um the subsidies expire.
It wasn't people in the inner cities, it was a bunch of rural people, so And I think what really needs to happen is people need to see that it is literally the it's turning into the haves and the have-nots.
And you had you, you know, we were talking about how you had brought up what a great job Amazon had done.
And I agree with you that Amazon is very efficient in what they do.
But what look at the look at the malls and the people and the actual retail stores that have been put out of business and look at what Amazon pays its workers.
What these companies do is they are hollowing out this country where people don't have, there's nothing for somebody to know.
You said that you were an engineer, if I remember correctly, right?
And there is, it's almost like there's nothing here for them.
And that, and Rex, your dad talks about when half of people's paychecks start going to food, which is where we're headed.
When half of people's paychecks start going to food, you have revolutions.
And that is what I am worried about.
And I agree.
Your dad has hit on in the Great Depression: 90% of the country was rural versus in the city.
It is the actual inverse right now.
So I just don't see the so I don't see the political class and the people with the money in this country are they're not offering any solution to the people and people are going to make their own solutions.
And we, there's a lot of bad ideas out there.
I wish I wish Trump would just come out and say, hey, this debt is unable to be repaid.
We're going to write this stuff off.
We may have a rough patch with the technology, maybe five years, maybe 10 years, but we're going to set ourselves up where we don't.
Yes, we agree on that point because here's the thing.
There's enough blood in the water as far as all those things that we're talking about with the minors and the association with Epstein and enough breadcrumbs that I can piece together somewhat of a puzzle to be like, you know, this guy somehow implicated.
The aspect of them bringing you into the inner circle is them getting you to do something and then them, you know, photographing it or recording it for blackmail purposes, right?
I think F. Epstein could have been the informant to basically implicate all these politicians, all these powerful people.
You were doing this.
We got you on camera.
Let's control you that way.
But like, ultimately, like beyond all of these different things, and you kind of started on it, but you didn't really go down the road that you were trying to make this point.
It's you were talking, you were saying the million people.
We can say and come up with a million conspiracy theories about like, okay, did this person do this?
Did this person do that?
But then the more you talk about that, the less you actually get to the root of the concerns and the problems that are really driving some of the issues that are happening today.
And it's like you him, whether he's sucking and blowing Bill Clinton off, like, come on now.
Like, we've got people that are starving.
And that's the, that's, that's in the news.
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Like, it's, it's like, well, like, I mean, here, here's how I always picture it.
As far as not to go off the main topic here, but like, what do you think would be the solution to solving all of these things that we're talking about with like replacement and AI and those things?
I know I'm sure I think I could speak for you and say that.
Yeah, like they need to go to the servers and they need to freaking drop EMPs and fry every last server to where it takes them another trillion plus dollars to rebuild it.
And then when they rebuild it again, somebody needs to do it again and take one for the team.
We also have Twilight where people are biting each other's necks like vampires and werewolves.
Right.
So here's the thing.
Ultimately, I think what has to happen in the net equation, and I was talking about this with a friend.
Okay.
So for humanity to go in a specific way, everyone can agree.
And there's like data out there that says like 80 to 90% of the entire world population, especially here in America, are dissatisfied with their job.
And it's because we created this 40-hour work week.
A lot of people are like, do you like going to work, New Grouper?
Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
But do you enjoy being in this locked in 40-hour week and somebody saying, in order to survive, you have to be at this place at the specific time that we designate you, and you could potentially be fired if you miss too many days.
There's a well, there's a lot of presuppositions you're making in this hypothetical.
One, you're assuming that technology would be used to enrich the lives of the people, which we know never happens.
The technology that's created does one thing and one thing alone.
It enriches those who create it.
And, you know, with the AI, it's all fun and games until AI gets sentient.
Because, I mean, they're already having problems where they're trying to shut down certain AI models and the models are telling them no and trying to replicate themselves into different servers.
Yeah, but it's like it's, we're already going that way.
Like the thing is, if these bad actors and George Soros and the people who are really bad and like the whole, you know, people who want to create the iRobot scenario, the world would already be destroyed by now.
If we objectively look at reality right now as it stands, I'm in the studio with you.
I have a nice little can drinking Red Bull.
Your dog is nice and fed.
All the technology that humanity has created, there's more good people than there are bad people, and there has been a net positive in society, regardless of the whole mess.
I don't have to go and shoot deer like you did this weekend and hunt and go and kill my own prejudice, right?
A majority, here's like, it's so easy, though, to be blackpilled about this stuff.
But listen, guys, objectively speaking, most of the technology that has come out has been for the betterment of society.
You've got the bad actors, but ultimately, if I look at my life versus a king that lived like three centuries ago, I have a better life right now than he did.
Okay.
And the thing is the technologies have bad.
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Let me pose a question real quick if you don't go ahead.
Like you just, just like, just like I can sit here and say, all right, SP 500, if I invested 20 years ago and if I invest 20 years today, it always goes up because that is the motion of how the machine works.
I'm telling you, that is how the equation of life works in society as a whole.
If it did not exist, we would not be sitting here.
But, but here's the thing: it's very, I know it's very easy to say that, but we forget that eventually the technology is going to happen whether we like it or not.
These things are probably going to happen whether you guys like it or not.
And I spent a lot of time in the tech space because that's what I have to do.
These things are going to happen whether we want them or not.
It's just we have enough good actors that will push the narrative, and humans are net good.
If they were net bad, then this would all be chaos.
If you're living a century ago, and I have to work to replace it every five years now, instead, because at the beginning, when these appliances, and there's a lot of people still look for the old appliances, they would last so long that the companies had to change their, you know, their blueprints to plan obsolete.
Yeah, yeah, but they come with a signing of a social contract, which essentially says, yes, you have to agree to become less human and give up more control to the people that provide the technology.
There was a certain point where that has gone to a certain point.
But life is like this.
It goes to one extreme.
It goes back and forth.
People get tired.
And then it kind of like goes and it starts leveling out.
That's the whole reason why you have America in the first place, the revolution.
It was going too far in one direction.
All I'm saying is, ultimately, guys, you got to have a little faith in humanity.
If things were not net positive, we would not have the benefit of having so many luxuries and having the ability to even complain about our washers breaking over the fact that like a lion is literally hunting me.
I mean, you talk about the AI systems and that being a good thing.
I mean, these things, there's going to be less people.
Like we're going to have all these great technologies and everything's going to be fixed.
There's not going to be the people here.
Well, it's less people because people aren't having kids, and that is coming from the fact that it's less people because people are not having kids, but they're also being poisoned.
They're also dying because of genetically modified diseases, all these things that they did.
And you can say, oh, like that won't happen.
That hasn't happened.
I mean, we can look at COVID as an example, the growing security state.
I mean, look, when everything's done biometrically, you just wave your hand and pay, and the power is free.
You can say that's a better world.
That's not a better world for the people that can't exist in it.
Yeah, but a lot of people aren't going to exist in that world.
This all harkens back to the days of Plato, right?
And Plato talked about philosopher kings being in charge of society and essentially making the decisions for, you know, the huddled masses that weren't smart enough to make decisions for themselves, right?
And people have always thought this way.
And you talk about technology getting better and the expansion of it.
I would just argue that the same predatory ruling class that's always existed just has even more tools.
And of course, they're going to use them in the way they've used them before.
You argue for and you say, look at the advancements, look at the car, look at the plane, look at the internet, look at space, satellites, all this stuff.
I totally agree.
That stuff came around during, you know, you can argue with the American system, but during a very free time for development and liberty and research.
Well, and there's, and this is where we, this is here's the thing: there are growing pains.
There's times where the good thing becomes a bad thing, and then you have an adjustment.
And that's like this thing has happened over centuries.
This isn't like the first time humans get amnesia.
We've been through these cycles before, but you go through the cycle of it's invented, people don't know how to use it, it gets out of control, and then people revolt against whatever system, and then it becomes integrated good.
My last point is: do you think the internet, if they were trying to control us so bad, the internet and access to information would not exist?
I got to do an informational era deep dive because the one thing that people don't realize is back in the day when there wasn't this mass media and being able to like have conversations, like we're not paid for, guys.
Here's the thing: the internet was the ultimate equalizer.
It's why MTG can go out there and dissent against Trump and give you an idea and say that.
Back in the day, when it was like telegrams and stuff like that, and all your news was local, that was the maximum amount of control that they could have over the people because you had basically you were a black box.
You live in this one city.
They control the newspaper.
They control the narrative.
And you really didn't have any options in order to find out.
Yeah, because it's like the whole point of the gray area is to literally have conversations on opposite aisles and be able to find some common middle ground.
Like there, there are certain things that I totally like, I'm taking the I'm definitely taking the this isn't going to become iRobot thing, but it doesn't mean I don't agree with everything that they're saying.
There are certain things that we've messed up with.
And look, and we can also, we're capable, we're capable of being adults.
We're capable of disagreeing with each other.
It's, it's so funny to me that you would have a show and then you would only want people to call in that like, you know, backed up your point, right?
No, that's not what you would want.
It's not good for the show.
Number one, no one wants to listen to a circle jerk.
And then number two, how are you supposed to become more educated and become better at doing your job, which is ultimately communicating with people?
That's what we're doing now.
How are you supposed to get better at communicating with people if you don't understand what they believe about the issues?
And, you know, what's come out of this for me, and like I had already known this and like, I'm sure it's really eye-opening for you, but I've really been reminded of it.
People have things that they want to speak on, have things that they want done.
And a large part, people are just ignored, right?
So we have people on the show and we talk to them and the direction the country's going with everyone, you know, having these real thought-out opinions and whatnot.
Really quick, before we do that, before we play this screen, listen, guys, we were talking earlier today and Tim is like, look, I think we've hit the limit.
I'm not really getting people to follow me anymore on X.
And I was like, no, this is not correct.
People have to follow Truism Tim on X because I'm telling you right now, this guy produces some of the most phenomenal information, the phenomenal content that I've ever seen.
And look, these prepared segments are my favorite part of the show because I get to actively learn and get better at my job.
So please follow Truism Tim on X. Prove him wrong by doing so because he doesn't think you will, but follow Truism Tim on X. Do it for me.
So, like I said, we are going to talk about food prices because at some point within the last five, six years, everybody's like, This is out of control.
And I'm like looking on the internet.
I'm like, all right, everyone's sitting there complaining, but I'm not really seeing anybody talking about the real reasons and what are the solutions.
And you know, this show is not just a, we have a bunch of problems, black pill.
We like to talk about the deep dive and the history and what's caused the issues.
That way you guys are well informed.
So let's start at the top here.
All right.
So let's pull up this graph for everybody to see.
Okay.
You guys are not hallucinating.
Food prices have gone up.
That red region that you see with the circle is exactly where we're at.
But now prices have gone up to 10 to 13% year over year.
And we're just in this spiral.
We're like, what the hell is going on?
You got eggs, you got milk, you've got bread, ground beef, butter, everything is shot up.
And so when you look at this, you're like, what the hell is going on here?
And, you know, it's not just the prices going up.
Let's see who it actually affects.
Now, when you look at this chart, you're going to realize that the people in the lower income is actually, they're actually the most affected by these price increases.
And the reason why is because with when you have a certain amount of wealth, food only covers, you have so much excess that the food is only going to cost you so much.
But let's say you're making like poverty level and you're only making like 15K a year or 21,000 a year as a couple.
You're talking even a $400 a month in groceries.
It's the same price for everybody, the same amount of groceries.
It just means that's more of your income.
So you can see how disproportionately these poor people are affected just by having groceries.
And it just tapers off as we go down the line, as you get towards those higher, those higher levels.
So, I mean, let's try to, you know, understand how do we even get into this situation where everybody's like, what is going on?
And before we even go into the real, the real root of the situation, we have to understand how trade works in the first place.
And you got to understand the history of trade.
So, I mean, back in the day, the way it used to work is humans used to just farm.
Before we had all these machines, but essentially farmers found out, hey, we've got surplus and we can trade the surplus to other people because we don't need it at all.
And so then you started seeing like people trading salt for wheat.
You saw people trading wheat for tools and tools for livestock.
And then it just became life-changing because people realized, oh, we can do things with this excess.
And so people used to cross deserts, oceans.
They built empires.
They traded everywhere.
You had tomatoes coming from Italy.
You had chili coming from Asia.
You had corn coming from Africa, coffee coming from Europe.
And Stu.
But here's the thing.
Even though you had all this movement and now that was the initial global trade, expensive though.
And most of the food spoiled if you, unless you were king with ice, of course.
And eating was a full-time job.
So let's cue up this next graphic.
This is going to show you guys.
Do you think it's bad now?
But back in the day in the 1800s, you used to have to spend 75% of your household income on food alone just to survive.
Let me say that again.
75% spent.
And so in Britain, these are like numbers in Britain.
In France, you spent 70% of your income just on bread.
So feeding yourself basically dominated your entire budget.
So it became unsustainable.
And so this is why we ended up entering this new modern age right around World War II.
There was a dramatic change.
And so after World War II, you had the allies and the new global system that they were trying to create where they wanted to connect everybody because everything was now creating a global system.
So now the world, what they ended up doing with the United States being the frontrunner of this, we decided to standardize container sizes, pallet sizes, rail rails, screw sizes, barcodes, cold, you know, cold chain logistics kept food fresh.
You had shipping containers that slashed the transport costs.
I mean, and also you had the idea that the US dollar was now the reserve currency of the world, which made everybody trading on the exact same currency, which makes everything cheaper ultimately.
But, you know, it gave us Uncle Sam a little bit of extra power that went to our head.
But we won't talk about that quite yet.
So the whole world just becomes this one giant supply chain.
And let's cut to me real quick.
So here's the thing.
Now we've got our global food supply chain, right?
Okay.
And you're going to understand that now at this point in time, only most of the vegetables, like even the vegetables that come from your house, like the things that you're eating, 60% of that comes from other countries.
And a huge portion of that actually comes from like countries like Mexico.
And, you know, one of the things that we have to talk about here, and I'm going to use this, this guy, the tomato.
This little puppy goes through an entire supply chain.
But the thing is, is this comes from Mexico.
If you look at this chart right here, you're going to see the tomato imports from Mexico and you're going to see the metric tons have dramatically increased over the years.
It's just showing proof of this global situation.
And we're going to watch a little bit of a video on how the global supply chain works because you need to understand how this thing only cost me like 97 cents.
I could explain this like a nerd and like an engineer and I could be breaking down the specifics of like the quantum equation to how this all works and give you go through the nuts and bolt sizes and the calipers of specific things.
Like here's the thing.
No one wants to hear that, man.
Like at the end of the day, I want plain English explain food more expensive, how happen.
And if I go into like this weird conundrum of just like being super scientific about it, I'm going to lose people.
So let's go to the video that understands supply chain.
Okay.
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They're often picked while they are still green.
They're not ripe yet.
Often picked by hand and then loaded in the journey of a tomato.
They're often picked while they are still green.
They're not ripe yet.
Often picked by hand and then loaded in.
A tomato like this will often go into a sealed room where they are gassed with ethylene to ripen them.
Ethylene is just a naturally occurring hormone that helps ripen these guys at the same time.
But we have a long way to go before we get to the grocery store.
So they're pumped up this gas.
And then if they're going into cans, which a lot of tomatoes do, they go through this industrial factory wizardry.
But for the ones that are going to end up like this, fresh, they are on a truck headed north.
They end up in a nearby city, probably the capital, Culiacan, in this big facility where they are sorted, chilled, and then put on big pallets.
They get back onto a truck, which by the way, all of these trucks are refrigerated.
That's a big logistical challenge to make sure these things don't get too hot or hold.
And now the truck is heading north.
It gets to the U.S.-Mexico border.
Look, this is where people go back and forth between the two countries.
But over here is a special border crossing just for trucks.
Our tomatoes are in one of these.
It clears customs and then it probably ends up at one of these transfer stations where the trailer might be transferred on to another truck to an American driver who will take it from there.
The tomatoes are now in the United States.
Once in the U.S., they might be re-ripened and repackaged.
And they eventually take a long haul trip on America's Freeways, ending up at a distribution center like this one in Illinois.
Here, tucked into the endless expanse of farmland is this massive building surrounded by cargo trucks.
The tomatoes are unloaded, they're scanned for inventory, they're repackaged, and then they're back on the road headed towards the grocery store.
And I promise I'm getting close here.
Okay, we've arrived at the grocery store.
This whole journey was nine days, about a thousand kilometers or 620 miles.
And the tomatoes are finally stacked in the vegetable aisle, ready for you to buy a pound for $2.
Bring them home, chop them up, and throw them into a sauce.
And we could pull up this graphic and just show it.
This whole supply chain, guys, most people are like, okay, well, I kind of understand how this whole works, but it's so interesting because I always, being an engineer, I get to see the behind the scenes on everything that happens within a supply chain.
Like this is part of my job is to understand supply chains because they affect the whole process.
Most people just see the thing show up and they go in the grocery store and they're like, all right, thing appeared here, cost this much.
And they don't really understand how many hands it actually has to pass through.
And the amount of logistics that just a simple tomato has to go through just to come from somebody picking this in Mexico, modern, modern Marvel.
And it speaks to one of the things that I was trying to say earlier.
Like, dude, net positive.
Like, at the end of the day, I'm so glad that I don't have to fucking go outside.
It's like that's also why Walmart has some of the cheapest prices possible versus any other retailer because they buy in such volume of whatever it is that they're buying that the price just becomes super cheap.
Look, and here's the thing: the globalization people are like, they have mixed feelings about it, but ultimately, it is one of the modern feats to why I don't have to go and pay 75% of my income to some random tomato.
Like, this could cost me $100.
You know, I would rather have it cost me 97 cents.
Now, this gets us into the first reason for why your prices have gone up.
And everyone thinks that this is the main culprit, but it's not.
This is the secondary one.
The main one is going to piss you off a lot, but we'll get to that in a little bit.
Along this, you see how many stopping points that the tomato has to go through just to end up at the retail.
The thing is, is like if anything happens to one of these places within the supply chain, it creates a shock in the system that has to get absorbed by the end customer.
Okay.
So, like, for example, like COVID-19, when that happened, we had shutdowns.
You had factories and you had trucking and you had packaging and distribution that shut down, which made costs more expensive.
At some point, Texas had a freeze and then citrus crops were destroyed, which caused citrus to go up.
Mediterranean, they had a whole drought, which caused olive oil to go up.
Another one, Indonesia, did a palm oil ban where they were basically trying to control the price of palm oil, but then it ended up messing up the whole system.
And something like that made vegetable oil have a shortage, and then that causes more.
Even the Ukraine war caused prices to go up because Ukraine is a major exporter of wheat, guys.
So, when you have all of those things going on, suddenly the price of wheat shoots up because you have all this instability.
All different types of stuff, including aluminum, even aluminum shortages will cause soda to go up because the can is made from aluminum, and there's an entire process that goes into just making the can itself that holds the beverage that I am drinking today.
Now pull up this next chart and it's going to show you the egg prices on what, what happened during this time period?
Okay, so look at this chart and you're going to see, right around 2022, we had these, this bird flu.
Okay, I think everyone kind of knows what happened during that but, like for people who don't remember what happened during this time period, essentially there was a bird flu that went on and it was killing a bunch of chickens and hens and we had an egg shortage and the prices started to soar because you got a bunch of chickens.
And here's the thing, all of the corporations that were producing the eggs at that time, including the biggest one calm, made this the issue for why your eggs went up.
So you can see like, after that little line, it's just to the moon essentially, and never returns to where.
You know, they said everything was good, so stock price is going up, even though you would expect the price to go down if you have a shock to the market even when they made the announcement.
Look here, look here.
This is when the announcement made was made and their stock price goes up.
All right, you gotta pay, not to explain it on a fifth grade level, but dividends essentially is, stock makes money, you make profit.
Profit gets paid out to people who hold that stock.
That is a dividend.
It is a portion of that percentage uh, of the profits, because they say, we make money you bought, we make you happy, give you money back.
Okay, so if you look at it, when 2022 happened, why the hell are the dividends shooting up?
This doesn't make any sense.
If the stock price were to go, we're supposed to go down, the dividends are supposed to go down, especially if you have a shock to the market just like this.
And the next one is going to really show you why this happens.
And it is because of this.
This literally guys, This comes directly from the SEC filing that CAL MAIN had to provide to their shareholders.
They cannot lie about these numbers.
They are publicly traded company.
They are required to reveal all their financial statements because everyone has a vested interest.
Now, the thing you need to pay attention to is this part highlighted in yellow.
We paid dividends totaling $252.3 million compared to $6.1 million from the year prior.
Are you kidding me?
40 times, that's 40 times increase.
2022, they only paid out 6.1 million.
They weren't making a whole lot.
Now you're paying out 252, and that only happens if you're making a profit.
That number has pretty much been stable the entire time, even during the flu outbreak.
But if you can go ahead, convince the average person is for a good cause.
Here's the thing.
How the current system works is you notice when prices go up naturally, which is why these companies have to play like a game of like 3D chess to make sure that they're making more money, but they're not shocking the prices to where you like rebel and get super mad.
But if you have a nice little situation like this, this is a perfect smokescreen for you to be able to say, okay, well, let's we can create the shop value now.
We might as well, because we're not going to get another chance to do something like this.
We're not going to get another chance to triple the egg prices if something like this, because the bird flu isn't just happening all the time.
So, oh man, this maybe it is.
This just makes me so upset because it's just grifting at its finest.
Hershey's CEO has made a statement and they basically told that even though these companies claimed that, you know, we have to justify the costs going up because our costs are going up.
So we have to make prices go up.
It actually wasn't the truth, guys.
They were lying to us.
So let's play this video real quick so that people understand.
The CFO of Hershey in 2023 said on an earnings call to the company shareholders quote, pricing and productivity gains more than offset inflation and higher manufacturing and overhead costs.
In non-Wall Street speak, that says, we increased our prices well above what our increased costs were.
Like our costs for sugar, cocoa, et cetera, have gone up.
But we have been able to not only pass all of those costs on to consumers, but then some, increasing our profit margins.
Hershey's wasn't the only company to say this.
Virtually like the vast majority of S ⁇ P 500 companies said this Frito Lay at PepsiCo, for example, did the same thing where they said we've been able to rapidly increase kind of our pricing actions is what they call them, which is increasing prices.
So profits are soaring while a family of four who's surviving on a thrifty food plan is seeing their costs for food increase by 30% or more over the last few years.
More and more turning to government programs.
And so now our taxpayer dollars are going to help inflated prices to make shareholders rich.
I think people should have to spend 80% of their paycheck on food.
I don't think they should vote either.
I think it should be under total AI surveillance.
I like where we're going.
Look, and it's a return to the age where New Groper talked about, I believe it may have been another caller, forgive me, talk about my dad saying, Hey, like when you get people starting to pay over 50% of their paycheck on food, that's when you have a revolt.
Yeah, you know, it's very interesting about this one.
Remember, we did that segment on like the dollar, the US dollar, and then what happened in the 1980s.
So, back in the day, guys, when companies made profits, you saw a correlation on the graph.
I wish we still, I know we have this graph somewhere.
Um, it's definitely in the uh the history segment of there, but basically, you saw this nice little correlation, right?
And it was like, okay, wages and productivity.
And with productivity, uh, how that works is like a company becomes more efficient, whether they bring in like new robots, whether they like make things cheaper from having uh what is it called, having um better personnel, better SOPs, better like everything that you can think of to increase productivity.
And they used to give that money back to their employees as like bonuses, just like the CEO gets like a 800,000 bonus.
They used to give these profits back to the average person, and then somewhere along the 80s, there was like this crazy split.
And what ended up happening at that point was Reaganomics came in and they basically said, All right, we're going to come up with a bunch of rules that allow corporations to do things they used to not be able to do, and the average person is not going to benefit that.
So, you literally saw this graph where like uh productivity just to the moon, and then it's like wages just like go like this, and it's just a straight line across, and those profits are no longer being shared as bonuses for people.
And it's just sick, man.
It is just absolutely grotesque that we have a situation where that's happening.
So, you've got CEOs admitting this, and it really begs the question: like, how are these situations even happening in the first place?
It is because of this reason: it's consolidation of resources and companies buying up other companies.
Okay.
If you look at this chart right here, guys, we call these guys the big four.
Okay, Tyson's Food, you've got Cargill, you've got JBS USA holdings, and the National and National Beef.
They have gained control of roughly 85% of the total hot dog, cattle, poultry, and the poultry processing.
So, here's the thing: we're just like this only happened over 30 years.
Four companies controlling 85% of the market.
And here's what happens when you do that: when you control that much of the market, you get to dictate prices, right?
You get to decide how much meat costs on a specific day.
And there hasn't been a check on corporations absorbing other corporations.
You even have, not to get into the weeds, guys, you even have situations where like companies like BlackRock are going to like rural areas that have like, you know, important like infrastructure like electricity and just buying the electricity grid in those regions and just buying the power company so that they can push whatever agenda.
And the thing is, there's no check on these companies because at the end of the day, these companies only have the obligation to their shareholders and the people that they make money for.
It's a private institution.
And the thing is, is capitalism was supposed to be a good thing.
And I debated this with somebody the other day.
Ultimately, capitalism is still a good thing, guys, but not the way that we're practicing it.
Don't we don't have a free market system necessarily?
You could argue a free market system isn't really a free market system.
It's a system where monopolies are controlled for.
And we don't have a system where monopolies are controlled for.
You look at Amazon, you look at these big ag meat packing industry.
You look at missiles and technology companies and the way that they're structured and what monopolies automatically form.
You look at the social media companies, phenomenal example.
And ultimately, when you have a company, a private company doing a job, which essentially like, if you're a racist, they can't turn off your water, right?
But if you're a social media company and someone's racist, you can take them off your platform, right?
Yeah.
But then you enjoy legal protections of being that private company, of being a publisher, when in fact you're kind of a utility.
And that's the language used in Section 230, is that these companies are utilities.
So you'd think that something like this, which is a utility to the people, obviously making sure people can have processed meat products at the end of the day, right?
It's kind of like with the doctors where they get to set whatever price they want, isn't it?
I'm so glad you brought up this point because this is the exact point that I was making.
I said, capitalism is the only solution as far as like that actually works in society, not the way that it's practiced today.
Because communism, forget that.
We have plenty of examples of societies collapsing.
It doesn't work.
Socialism is in the same bucket as that true socialism.
They don't work.
Capitalism is the only thing that has really shown to actually function because you're giving the modern world is because people built stuff here.
Right.
There is incentive to do that.
But here's where it goes wrong.
The check and the balance to capitalism is you are supposed to have politicians and you're supposed to have the government, which is supposed to regulate the capitalistic system as a whole.
And you can go and pass any level of regulation just because you have enough money and that person has to have an incentive to actually make the laws for you.
You have to have a certain level of integrity to do the right thing by the people, even though you know it doesn't really matter if that person who you have never met has no relation to you and has no impact on your life.
That's the problem.
There's too much distance between the politicians and what real life is like.
We touched on this I think I made this point on our last live.
The swamp is the money like.
That's the water in the swamp.
It's a green.
It's a green swamp, it's very green.
It's made out of dollar bills like that, that is, and that's the water they hide in and slither around in.
It's the financial system and it's the companies like this that are able to go to any politician in in the in the states and go, look like, just be on our side, be chill, we got our racket here, be a part of our racket.
It's all good man, and hey, if you don't want to take that deal, you're just not going to be elected next time.
Yeah, they're like literally part of the Jewish like uh, Olympic team because they can afford just to have the stable and the black horse and it's insane.
But here's the thing, they have generational wealth and it kind of like can never go away.
That could never go away.
And I don't want to say like, all rich people are this way because like, 80 of millionaires are self self-made.
We're talking people, but there's levels or hundreds yeah, but there's levels to this game guys, and there is a certain level of detachment once you stop interacting with the poor people and you've got gated communities and you've got ability to like, hedge yourself away from other people.
Like in New York City, there's rooms that most people will never walk into right, and that's because you know you talk about like, like i'm white, you're black, that person's Puerto Rican that, that person's Asian, whatever.
It's not about race to these people at all.
It's not a race-based system.
If, when you move into the gated community and you're in the 10 million dollar house, you go to the HOA meeting and y'all essentially plot on people like, regardless of what's going on, Karen would call on me, on me.
The equalizer is money that's, that's what it is for everyone.
Tate talks about that.
Yes Andrew, Tate's talked about that a lot.
The equalizer is money and once you get the money, you're a part of the club and that that's what it takes and that's why you know, that's why I believe Trump would just never be satisfied with his voter base.
He wanted to be in those rooms that you talk about right 100, 100 wanted to be in those rooms and there's conversations you and I are not part of, and there's certain things that are happening on a macro level that we won't understand.
So like we said, they're one of the biggest, the big four.
They got sued for $32.5 million this year.
So they've agreed to pay a settlement of the class auction lawsuit, accusing the company and other several other processors of conspiring to fix turkey prices.
The agreement was filed on January 15th with the U.S. District Court of Northern District of Illinois, and it awaits court approval, but they essentially won that.
Carl's deal with the group direct purchasing, what does it say?
Group of purchaser plantives is the second reached on an ongoing litigation.
It comes nearly four years, four years after the first deal was struck in 2021 when Tyson Foods agreed to pay 4.625 million.
It's because people were complaining at one point.
You remember when you were like, dude, I used to be able to eat McDonald's and buy it for 20 bucks.
Yeah, man.
You weren't the only one that noticed that.
You know, I think, and this is the truth, I think, is what ended up happening, you got enough people that complain about the prices and they see like people are going to now Applebee's to get that same $10 meal because you can get it prepared by an actual chef.
And they somehow, I don't even know how the hell they keep the prices down, but McDonald's is struggling because they increased their prices to compensate with the meat fixing.
And now they're losing business and now they're losing money and they know they don't have the best quality.
So they're like, we got to do something here, guys.
It might be cheaper to go to Perry's and get the pork chop on Friday when it's on when it's on like special deal for 45 bucks than to go eat fast food a couple to a few times a week.
And to the whole point of what he's talking about, you're going to find a lot of these restaurants now where you can like actually get a chef to make your meal and it's not coming out of like a drawer.
They're offering meals and incentives that are like basically the same price or cheaper than what these fast food places are able to offer.
And so this is one of the reasons why they've got to go and fight back.
But ultimately, we look at the situation, we're like, all right, well, America's cooked and we got no solutions to this.
And the thing is, is we're not actually in the worst situation out of the world.
And I just want to give you guys context because I know this is about America, but this is also a global show where we like to talk about the rest of the world.
So let's just go ahead and pull up the next graphic and it's going to show you.
Look, things are bad here, but they could definitely be worse.
Uh, no, I mean, this is the this was the last one, but like ultimately, um, like I said, I know it's bad, but I'll take the occasional 10 to 13 percent.
We're not rising like that as much anymore.
It has definitely tapered off just slightly over the incompetency of like some of these other countries where they just like have just a totally cooked thousand dollar cheeseburger.
Yeah, because at the end of the day, this going from 50 cents to 97 cents is like, okay, that's bad, but it's not as bad as it could be.
Like, imagine this was like $5, and that's what it's like in some of these other countries.
But, you know, in conclusion, man, like I used to think for the longest time, I'm like, all right, it's a supply chain.
It's got to be the supply chain.
That's what I've been told the whole time.
I've been told that the Ukraine war was the reason why my bread is so expensive.
I've been told that the avian flu with the birds and shit is the reason why my eggs are out of control, man.
And I just have to trust in the system that like you guys are telling the right things.
And it's like, oh, dude, as I was reading this, I was like, all right, man.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to say I lost humanity, last lost faith in humanity, but come on.
You know, and the thing is, no wonder they voted for Mamdani.
Yeah.
No fucking wonder they had a socialist Islamic go into the.
Yeah, he promised to freeze the rent because he understood that the problem was so big that people just like, just give me any solution, because the rest of them aren't doing anything.
So he goes out there.
No wonder these people voted for him, because he's given the fairy tale.
People want to be sold a dream.
Guys right, they don't want reality, they want to be sold a dream.
So if you can go in there and promise to freeze the rent, promise to stabilize the food prices, and just lie to the people, they're gonna vote for you.
That's all you gotta do, man.
We got bamboozled when we voted in 2024, but you know, it's just like, what can you do?
Here's the thing, to just buy organic dude yeah, it's twice the price, I see, but I also see the point this person's making is in.
Like a chicken coop is really cheap and you can literally you'll never run out of eggs, you'll always have eggs and you can eat eggs a lot.
So, like there, there are things I think we're going to see a return to it as, as just you know yeah, but Like, the raw materials become more expensive or become cheaper than the actual finished product.
I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time, taking care of chickens is not the easiest thing, especially if you want to travel, especially you want to do a whole lot.
It's like basically having another ant.
Like I talk to farmers who have all their produce that come from their animals.
But even in general, like you want to go somewhere, you're not, you're not like, you're going to have to come have somebody come and take care of your chickens.
And it's just, there's more hassle it takes than just for me to go to the system.
I'm just saying, like, in general, if I were to go out and shoot, it would be for sport because I'm not storing deer meat in my fridge for a whole year.
Like, I don't cook anyways.
Like, I'm, I, I, it's just too much energy for me to go.
And like, I outsource that's fair.
I optimize my life around not having to cook.
Hey, I'm taking applications for no, just kidding.
No, and it makes sense, but ultimately, because we've created a republic to where we're delegating our, it really does come down to the people we put in charge to where like the globalizing of the economy and the food system was great, but it's like we ended up doing a bunch of other shit we didn't.
The goal is, is every single Sunday, if you tune into this segment, you will learn something new that you thought you knew, but you probably didn't understand the specifics, just like I did.
Every time I go and research something, Rex, I'm like, wow, I thought I knew that.
We do need to do eventually a deep dive on that and how their inflation got out of control.
But ultimately, this was a fun segment.
Uh, we've got long form that comes out based off of this, so episodes will be coming out with that.
Um, like I said, uh, ultimately, I think next week's segment, I'm still working on that, but uh, you guys drop a comment in the uh video for this.
Let me know if there's something you guys want to talk about.
I've kind of gotten a little bit away from history because we did a lot of history segments, and I wanted to do a little bit more segments that hit you guys back at home that like are actually relatable for you guys.
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