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Nov. 17, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
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rex jones
All right, now we're good, right?
Now y'all can hear us.
Welcome to the show.
tim tompkins
We love the settings, just love to change on us like this.
rex jones
Well, it's the thing is, like, you know, when here, give me the mouse real quick.
Um, still no audio, seriously, okay.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, there's not to say I fuck, I they're messing with us now.
All right, all right, give me the mouse, thank you, appreciate it.
rex jones
Um, so, guys, welcome to the gray area.
We've got a good show tonight.
You know, Tim's got an interesting topic, it's something that affects everyone.
It's something that you know, I myself have been really thinking about lately and you know, prepping and how to take into account basic survival needs.
And you need this thing for survival.
I'll save it and we'll leave it, we'll leave it at that until we get to the actual topic.
But a lot of big news tonight that I'm sure you, the callers, are going to want to react to.
So, in about an hour, we're going to take calls.
And usually, on Sundays, we have a guest.
Wasn't able to secure a guest this time for the show.
So, we want to hear what you guys have to think, what you guys have to say.
And we're looking forward to that part of the show.
But, you know, you've been kind of paying attention to the news, right?
But you've been working and stuff.
tim tompkins
No, I've seen, you know, we'll talk about Mexico today.
rex jones
Well, just high-level, like, really quick, what do you think about what's going on?
tim tompkins
It's very interesting to see the divide going full blown in the Republican Party at this point.
rex jones
Oh, yes.
tim tompkins
You know, with all of the things that are going on with Taylor and Trump and what's going on with that, I'm like, dude, I don't think I've seen this in a hot minute.
The Democrats are just sitting back pretty.
They're just like, oh, keep it coming, guys.
We love to see that fighting.
Let's go.
And they're just chilling in the background and they're just gassing her up essentially, you know?
So this is very interesting.
rex jones
Well, I was thinking about that.
I was thinking about the Mexican conflict as well, kind of the Civil War situation they're having develop over there.
But it is pretty crazy.
Like I was watching my dad's show.
I went to pick up my dog.
I went deer hunting yesterday.
So I went to pick up my dog from boarding today.
And on the way there to pick him up, I started listening to Alex Jones' show.
And it was my dad doing the middle of the road technique where he's trying to appeal to both Trump and Marjorie Taylor Green.
And he's like, hey, like Trump's done good.
We can't criticize, but at the same time, we can criticize because that's our job to criticize.
And MTG went too far.
And maybe she didn't go far enough.
And it's just like, look, at a certain level, and I think they've actually made up now.
So it's irrelevant, or to a certain extent, I think she kind of kowtowed.
tim tompkins
You know what?
They probably did that on the front, but they're probably still not good.
rex jones
Yeah, well, I mean, I think for all the bluster and all the talk and whatnot, I think she is worried about re-election, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
rex jones
Because Trump can probably still take you.
It'd be very interesting to see what happens with Massey because then after we example, we'll have a real benchmark as to what happens.
tim tompkins
I watched a deep dive on Trump and kind of just to understand his psychological, how his psychology works.
He does not take very nicely to disrespect.
He'll do something on the front where he'll like pretend like everything is good, but like you, you cross him, he'll always remember that.
So not one of those guys that you really want to mess with.
rex jones
I mean, look, what constitutes crossing him, though?
tim tompkins
Anything that has, it's like it's mafia.
It is mafia.
donald j trump
You feel me?
rex jones
Disrespect.
I brought you in the fridge.
I brought you into my house.
I brought you in my house.
tim tompkins
Look, he's ruling by an iron fist these days.
It's a lot of yes men.
donald j trump
I hate it.
tim tompkins
A lot of yes men.
unidentified
I hate it.
rex jones
And to me, the thing that I hear all the time is our president has done XYZ amazing things for us.
Trust the plan, essentially.
Like keep going along with it and keep, you know, like we, he's done so much good.
All you do is criticize him.
I see that complaint.
My dad levies that complaint.
Shouldn't the president who we elected?
It's a crazy idea that I had.
Shouldn't the president that's elected actually understand what he was elected to do?
Right.
And have to like, they should have to follow through on that to get any support at all.
But the American public, it's like the analogy you give of the beaten wife sometimes, right?
unidentified
You like this.
rex jones
Yeah, exactly.
Like that's that's the fucking problem.
tim tompkins
And they keep coming back for more.
rex jones
Yeah.
And like, we're just like, well, you know, it's the Democrats or Republicans will be nice to me.
We can have the country.
Like if the parents will be nice, we have a family, you know, like it's an abusive relationship, right?
And we have to appeal to like the like mystic sage inside of Trump and like the part of his psyche mind that's like playing the 12D chess against Satan and all of that.
But in reality, it's just an old dude that doesn't really care about what he was elected to do, right?
tim tompkins
He's got his own agenda at this point.
rex jones
So does he become the Republican Party, though?
I think it's already happened, but you could see a thing as to like, you know, what happened if Trump had like a heart attack like today and died?
Do in like a year, two years, you're telling me like people like Lindsey Graham aren't trying to take control of the Republican Party and like bring it back.
tim tompkins
No, I think a lot of people fear him right now.
A lot of people are getting in line.
Even Vance, I even feel like Vance is like playing.
Somebody's talking about Vance too, ironically.
I think Vance is trying to play his part.
I don't think he agrees necessarily with everything Trump.
rex jones
I actually think I think there's a big divide there.
And I think he's being kind of drugged through this administration.
100%.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
Because he was on the understanding.
He's like, okay, like they set me up.
I'm kind of like a white Obama.
tim tompkins
And here's the thing.
You're Vance.
You were critical of him before.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
But then somebody offers you the position of being vice president.
Do you turn that down, really?
No.
rex jones
Exactly.
No.
tim tompkins
So you play whatever game you need to play to be inside of the playhouse that you can play with everybody else, but then have your own agenda.
Because he knows he's going to be runner up for presidency.
rex jones
The thing is, he really is like a white Obama, right?
Because Obama, you know, he's got, you know, his story, right?
That black people could relate to.
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
And then JD Vance, he's got the story that kind of like the white people, specifically the world, like the base.
The base that Trump kind of appealed to, he can kind of tickle it from a different way.
As in, like, they were entertained and infatuated with Trump.
They can identify and respect Vance.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I mean, look, I thought the first time I really got to see, and maybe he was playing the game, but like when he went on Rogan, I was like, ooh, I like this guy.
I was going to say, like, you know what?
He seems very likable, very relatable.
And I believed, you know, some of the things that he was saying in there.
But again, when you're in the camp of Trump, you know, you have to suppress some of your personality and the things that you would normally do and get in line.
rex jones
I mean, the thing is, you talk about suppressing personality and whatnot.
I saw someone say this in the chat, which is why I'm going to bring it up.
Marco Rubio hated Trump.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, do you remember 2016?
You remember like Ted Cruz?
There was some little Marco, Lion Marco.
I can't remember the specifics of it, but I was, I was at like a dairy queen with my granddad.
We were like driving to East Texas or something.
And we were listening to the radio and it was Marco Rubio.
And he gave some speech where he just trashed Donald Trump.
And he said all sorts of horrible things about like nasty stuff.
And come to think of it.
Now that guy is a secretary of state.
Like it's all fake, right?
Because like everyone's suppressing who they really are in politics.
tim tompkins
All you got to do is beg for forgiveness and do a little.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
But it's not even begging him for forgiveness.
It's just like, oh, like we're going to achieve this mission together because Miriam Adelson gave me all this money.
I have to have you as Secretary of State.
Miriam Idelson wanted Marco Rubio as VP.
And like that's a part of what that money was supposed to buy.
Like this is known.
This isn't even a debate.
That's just the fact.
So we have facts like that that we, the informed political, like the politically inclined part of the public know.
Like how we like this, like this country is just, it's just a story we agree on at the end of the day.
Like all this stuff is next level corrupt, next level crazy, next level fake.
It doesn't matter, right?
Like Trump can deal with Lindsey Graham in the first term or the first campaign where Lindsey's trying to get him like kicked off the ballot and stuff.
And now they're golfing buddies and best friends and all the people that loved and supported Trump like throughout the years throughout COVID.
tim tompkins
Oh, he was waiting, removing him off the ballot when he was trying to get this primary show.
rex jones
So I want to be certain, but I believe Lindsey was a part of that.
He's very anti-Trump.
I remember that distinctly.
That being said.
tim tompkins
Now with MTG, what's my thing?
rex jones
And we'll get, we'll get into that.
I just need like three or four more minutes on this.
Specifically, to make the connection, when we talk about all these people, we have the most disloyal, crazy, evil swamp creatures that he has put in his cabinet or that he has endorsed.
You got people like Lindsey Graham.
You got people like Kash Patel.
You got people like, let me think.
Let me think for a little while, guys.
Trump's got people like Howard Luttnick and Scott Bassett.
He's got George Soros, who's former front guy that helped him take down entire countries' economies.
That's who's in charge of our economics department.
We've got Ted Cruz, who he famously called Lion Ted, you know, and he said, Your wife is a dog.
Imagine you have a wife and you're a senator, and then someone running against you for president goes, Your wife is a dog.
She's a dog.
But see, he takes it because he's good boy.
And then good boy stays in office and gets to go to Cancun on vacation and get the APAC money.
Like it's all fake.
And the deal that I think that they gave Trump, which is what I said before on the show, is they go, look, you want, like, we all hated you and you beat us.
And we're either going to kill you or you can just be the new leader of this two-party duopoly that we have.
You can just be the new Reagan, essentially.
That's the deal they offered him.
And I think he said yes to that.
But there were people that weren't informed on that.
There are people that weren't informed and were inclined on Trump becoming the new Reagan.
There are people that actually wanted Trump to do what he said he was going to do.
People like Tucker Carlson, people like Candace Owens, people like my dad, people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, right?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
It wasn't hard to get on the bandwagon once Biden and that whole administration made a mess.
Right.
rex jones
But prior to that, I mean, what do you have?
You got people being put in jail for decades for Jan 6.
You got Trump being indicted.
You got people trying to arrest him.
You got his mug shot being taken throughout this period of intense hatred.
And people like Ben Shapiro, they weren't going hard in the paint.
Even a year and a half ago, they weren't going hard in the paint.
They are like vultures.
And when they sensed that one of the animals fighting had died, they swooped in on that one.
And like, we're your friends.
tim tompkins
That's a very, very good analogy.
rex jones
Yeah, like, we're your friend to the other like injured animal that they're going to eat after they're finished eating this one.
Like, we're your buddy.
It's okay.
unidentified
Oh, I guess I am the greatest that defended the buzzers.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's whoever's most convenient that aligns somewhat with where the direction of they want to push their audience and all the things that they can do with that.
So, well, well said.
rex jones
So, Marjorie Taylor Green, she's a congresswoman.
I believe she's from, man, it's crazy.
tim tompkins
I don't know.
rex jones
Where is she?
Where's she?
Let's Google this real quick.
Very smart show.
No one's more informed on any topic than us.
I mean, you find the most established researcher that couldn't hold a candle.
tim tompkins
Probably somewhere rural.
rex jones
Mental fortitude.
I want to say Kentucky, but I think I'm wrong.
unidentified
She is from the hell.
tim tompkins
It thinks I'm talking about fucking.
rex jones
No, just Google it.
Just Google it.
tim tompkins
Why do you think I'm talking about it?
rex jones
Tim just burned four liters of water to confirm where MTV is living in the new age, the modern time of technology and fun.
unidentified
Okay, she was born in Georgia.
rex jones
Oh, okay.
Okay.
tim tompkins
Okay.
unidentified
I don't even know where this Mel Gilly is.
tim tompkins
That's rural.
rex jones
She's in Georgia, right?
unidentified
Rural.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's the boonies.
I know where that is.
She's in Georgia.
rex jones
She's in Georgia.
tim tompkins
She lives near my mom.
rex jones
What the hell?
Oh, wow.
tim tompkins
Anyways, yeah, she's from the boonies.
rex jones
So she's been someone that's been as America first as is possible.
She's someone that has really, really been graceful when it came to like both not supporting Trump's policies that were wrong, like the Epstein thing, right?
She was a part of that big victims march.
And they really didn't like that.
Because if you're a Republican, if you're a congresswoman or a man or a senator, it's like, hey, like, we're not doing this.
Like, we, we, we said, like, they said, like, he didn't traffic any said.
And if you're that deal, then you should be quiet and we'll get you re-elected in MAGA.
That's what MAGA means.
That's, that's, like, he'll hydrogen MAGA.
Like, after that conversation, that makes it all okay.
tim tompkins
My go.
rex jones
So, yeah, seriously.
So she didn't take that deal and she's been in there, you know, really campaigning for the release of the Epstein files.
And I think it's been courageous.
I think it's been honorable.
tim tompkins
Good for her.
rex jones
That was like, that is in top five issues in the voting electorate that got Trump elected in 2024.
I truly believe that.
I truly believe that.
tim tompkins
That was wars.
It was inflation.
It was immigration.
rex jones
Government corruption.
tim tompkins
Corruption.
And then that last one you're talking about, Epstein.
rex jones
No, 100%.
And when Trump came out and said all those things about it and essentially invalidated it and called people, he called them like Democrat hoaxers.
And because it's a Democrat hoax and you're a Democrat hoaxer if you put it out.
Someone in chat will have the exact, will have the exact language he used.
If anyone remembers what specifically was said, I'd really appreciate it.
But at the end of the day, like he said, this is not to be questioned.
And then she comes out and she's like, I'm still questioning it.
I'm here with the victims.
And it's about the victims and getting peace for the victims.
Then the speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, comes out and he goes, well, we can't release everything because that would hurt the thousand victims.
So no one needs to know about it.
And like when they say that, they have special units that like look through the shit at the FBI, like the worst stuff on the internet that look through all the garbage.
And like, that's, that's what they're paid to do.
tim tompkins
And you just, all you got to do is redact the names of the victims.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
Super sense.
rex jones
Well, I mean, the thing is, there's like, look, like, this is what Bonnie says.
Like, all we have is like the like bad video, essentially.
And you can't release the bad video because that's illegal, right?
tim tompkins
And it has the same thing.
rex jones
The thing is, they have units at the FBI that would just go, okay, that's that person in that video.
That's that person in that video.
That's that person in that video.
But of course, that never happens because everyone is implicated in it.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
But then she's brave enough to go out there and work hard about getting it released.
And let's go to some of the stuff that she said on the view because the thing that really popped this cherry of this whole situation was the thing that really buttered the biscuit here with she went on the view, right?
She went on the view and she said some things that are like mildly critical of Trump.
And that just made him go thermonuclear war.
So let me rewind this video really quick and we'll go to it.
All right, guys.
unidentified
Add to add to the stage.
marjorie taylor greene
Practically, I yelled at Mike Johnson last week on our GOP conference call.
By the way, I'm missing the call today.
It's going on right now.
And I hope that Mike Johnson is finally giving a single health care policy because the country deserves it and it shouldn't be a secret.
And I shouldn't have to go into a skiff to go find our Republican health insurance plan.
unidentified
There is no plan.
marjorie taylor greene
You know what?
You want to know something?
That I believe is the truth.
There's a lot of ideas.
There's a lot of bills, but there's no consensus.
And I think that.
rex jones
Oh, whoa.
You don't like, you don't say that.
tim tompkins
I know.
That's exactly.
unidentified
Look, look at the Republicans and Democrats getting along.
rex jones
Break it down on a high level for these people.
tim tompkins
Look at it.
All right.
Look, the view, if you look in the bottom right corner, who is that run by?
ABC.
ABC runs this view.
They're all talking about political.
You've got like Whoopi Goldberg in there.
She's like super political talk now and all these different things.
And every single one of those girls on that stage, they're all Democrats.
They all love anything that Biden did.
You hear him talk about anything.
It's all blue and true for these people.
So for her to go up there, oh, dude, imagine the people she's pissed off on the party.
rex jones
I imagine they got to have some room that has a TV in the White House where like everyone sits around and like just like watches the news, especially with this administration.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
When you're talking about towing party lines and you have to be like part of the Klan, you are not allowed to do this, guys.
This is a big no-no.
I literally remember somebody from Young Republicans was like, you're not allowed.
Don't don't tell people that you're in the middle.
You're either red or you're blue, man.
That's basically what they say.
So yeah, this is a big issue.
rex jones
That's true.
But you can try to do the Timpool tactic, even though he admits he's right wing now.
But he's been radicalized.
tim tompkins
What's the next one?
Oh, yeah.
She keeps going.
marjorie taylor greene
And they all attacked me.
You know, I think there's a lot of paid social media influencers.
And I found it very interesting that they were the MAGA accounts, but they're all paid.
And they all me when I announced I was ladies on the view.
And I think that's very weak and pathetic.
But when I talk about weak Republican men, I'm pretty much talking oftentimes about the leadership in the House and the Senate.
And they're just.
rex jones
Yeah.
So like she's coming after the entire political machine here.
And I look, I understand why Trump's upset now.
Now I'm watching it.
tim tompkins
He's like, This, this is the criticism and dissent that he does not like.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And I mean, this is like, she's speaking like the average voter would, I imagine.
tim tompkins
That's what I'm saying.
rex jones
She's talking about healthcare.
She's talking about, hey, like I'm being bombarded on social media, which you are.
Like your feed is highly curated by the AI.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing, though.
This could, I like what she's doing here because she knows this is potentially political suicide.
And she's still going out there and being critical because there's probably enough people that agree with her from the Republican base that will probably back her up.
rex jones
I think she'll win reelection, you know, and we're going to go a little bit further in here where it appears like there may be some sort of like backtrack apology or something, but she's been under a lot of pressure because of this entire.
tim tompkins
I love this.
rex jones
Yeah, no, this is great.
This is good stuff.
This is the stuff we like to see.
unidentified
So you don't believe in the QAnon conspiracies anymore.
marjorie taylor greene
Oh, I went over that a long time ago.
I mean, we've changed.
Well, no, I haven't changed.
I was a victim just like you were of media lies and stuff you read on social media.
You all have attacked me many times on this show.
We have because of things that you read about me that weren't just clips we've seen.
Or clips you've seen.
unidentified
Basically out of context about 10 seconds.
Yeah, I'm not getting that.
So you don't believe that.
rex jones
She's kind of the leader of the board of the fusion of women on the view.
The view's been around forever.
It's got to be 50 years old.
tim tompkins
Yeah, here's the thing.
How long do you think they all stay buddies for until the next problem?
rex jones
Because the ladies at the table?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Like they're like all, you know, we used to be critical of each other.
rex jones
They do what they're told.
Let me explain how this works.
tim tompkins
Okay.
rex jones
When you're in the establishment media infrastructure, it's not like a guy in a suit comes on.
He goes, these are talking boys.
You can't talk about anything else.
That's not what happens.
It's the people you play tennis with.
It's the people at the club.
It's the people you drink with.
It's the culture, right?
So anything that gets fed to these women through the osmosis of the culture is what they're ultimately going to repeat because that's their job, just like any news anchor, right?
Just like anyone, man or woman, they all do that.
But you look at MTG, MTG is expressing, you know, an original opinion, an opinion that the voters share.
Whenever a politician, whenever a politico in general goes on a show like this, they're doing it to gain social capital.
They're doing it to raise, you know, their identity up.
They're doing it to validate the, like, what they're presenting to other people.
They're like, hey, if you agree with me, this is what I represent.
This is what I stand for.
tim tompkins
So this is all based, though.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
She even came out to say she knew.
Like that was the one thing like back in 2020.
The only reason why I did not like her and some of the Republicans was that like QAnon conspiracy-esque thing.
I hate that stuff.
I didn't, I didn't like that.
And there was like a big part of the red pill community that just like went off the board.
Like there was some truths, but they were just taking things to an extreme.
For her to come out and be like, hey, look, I was misled.
Here's what's going on.
This is my truth now.
rex jones
Like, all right, good.
I mean, I like it.
I really do.
But ultimately, Donald Trump lacks the ability to communicate like she just did.
He lacks the ability.
He can present and he can project, but he could never sit down and actually have, you know, a fair, balanced conversation where he concedes things.
When has Trump ever conceded anything?
unidentified
No.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
And the video that I watched, it basically said that's part of his strategy.
If you read his books, if you listen to his speeches well before he got into the presidency, these are all tactics that he's been employing within the presidency that have framed his entire existence of who he is and how he runs his politics.
It's deny until you die.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So you're never going to, he's never going to come out and say something like this, like, I was wrong about this.
rex jones
Well, the thing is, coming after her like this in a big way, which we're going to get to, and let's just go ahead and pull a little bit of the exposition on this.
This is cat turd, of course, like four or six million followers.
I forget, giant, huge, paid profiteer, war profiteer off of the destruction of MAGA.
Marjorie Taylor Green went on Bill Maher and threw every one of us and Trump under the bus.
I couldn't find clips of that.
So she could be popular on the left because she wants to be a star.
Then she went to this person's Hollywood party and bragged about it.
There's no words to describe how much I despise her now.
All right.
This lady's a mom of three boys, entrepreneur.
Ooh, the gay flag.
Oh, we can't have that.
It world over.
The world is over.
She can never be elected.
She has to be thrown in a pit, actually.
And we have to cover it with concrete.
Is she blue if she ever goes out?
I'm not talking about her.
I'm talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
See, Marjorie Taylor Greene went to her house.
And because she went to her house, she's the most evil person that's ever existed.
When Trump brings the fucking terrorist leader, the Al Julani, Kobe, like leader of fucking Al-Qaeda.
unidentified
She drained threes with the draining threes with these military guys.
rex jones
But see, Cat Turt, he doesn't get upset about that.
He doesn't care about that at all.
That's not a big deal.
That's my president.
That's my leader.
That's my hero, Trump.
That's what he says, the boomer.
But I mean, he's fine with him bringing a terrorist to the White House.
But MTG, because she went to a lady who, I guess, supports gay people somehow by putting the pride flag in her bio, because she went to her house one time for some sort of party.
Like that, there's no words to describe how much he despises her now.
He's able to get, he's that bought into the system.
He's that connected to it that it triggers his like, like systemic organism response, right?
Like he's a part of the hive mind.
unidentified
He's like, like he's active, he's activated, bro.
rex jones
That's crazy.
tim tompkins
You know, the worst part about all of this, even us talking about this, or even like some of the coverage, like I can go back, watch a couple of videos, and like you could just be critical of just somebody on the right just because it's a bad policy, but just merely making this statement, people would be like, oh, you're Democrat.
You're being paid by these people.
And it's like, you're not even allowed to say any of these things.
Otherwise, look, just goes to show we're not paid actors, guys.
We're just out here speaking our truth at the end of the day.
rex jones
So I mean, I just, the hypocrisy of that is so next level.
And you know, I didn't even notice it until I reread the tweet until I brought it until I brought it up.
Like, he worships President Trump.
Like, he's at his becking call.
Trump brings a terrorist to the White House.
He does all this stuff.
You know, he works with BB Net.
He was a war criminal.
But that's all fine.
But see, you go to a person that is not even gay, but just likes gay people or something.
How yeah, it's over for you.
How dare you!
That's so absurd.
And these people literally, they're war profiteers, they're murderers, they're drug dealers, not talking about cat turd, talking about the government.
And the people that worship the government have the temerity to get insulted by like people's lifestyle choices that they don't agree with.
Like, does Cat Turd want Sharia law too?
Does he want women to cover up or I guess so?
I mean, it's the same logic.
Let's go to this short clip of Trump.
You know, it appears to be dissing MTG.
tim tompkins
Oh, he was mad, man.
donald j trump
I passed a great big beautiful bill, which is the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country.
rex jones
So, when somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's now catering to the other side, I don't know what, you know, I guess she's, you know, got some catering to the other, catering to what is saying, catering to the other side of the base that isn't retarded.
But, like, who look, I'm not trying to diss Trump.
It's not like my dad now.
I'm not hating on Trump, but seriously, like, it's he does the worst thing possible in every situation.
The worst thing possible.
Like, how are you supposed to support this guy?
I just don't get it.
donald j trump
I'm surprised at her.
But when somebody like Marjorie goes over and starts making statements like that, it shows she doesn't know.
rex jones
So, Lindsey Graham knows, Mark Levin knows.
Ted Cruz knows.
Mitch McConnell apparently knows as long as you agree with them.
As long as you agree with him, just like he said famously after we were kicked off Twitter, as long as I'm still on Twitter, it's okay.
And they remove him like a year later.
But like, it's it's so absurd.
And the thing about this is like she was with you in the trenches, she was with you through COVID.
She was fighting when you were indicted.
tim tompkins
She was one of those people that was hardcore.
rex jones
Yeah, like write or die.
And then he's like, I don't love you anymore.
donald j trump
I never did.
rex jones
And like, he loves Lindsay.
He loves LG.
It blows my mind.
But let's see what we got next.
Okay.
This is from like tonight when I was on the computer.
I was finding these.
MTG.
The hoax pizza deliveries have started now to my house and to my family members.
Update.
We also received a pipe bomb threat on my construction company's office building.
President Trump's unwarranted and vicious attacks against me were a dog whistle, the dangerous radicals that could lead to serious attacks on me and my family.
Unfortunately, I've been down this road before.
As a matter of fact, as I campaigned all over the country and defended President Trump, I received dozens of swatting calls on my house and on my family members' homes along with these hoax pizza deliveries.
But even more severely, I received some of the most death threats, a little error there in her writing.
Most death threats of any member of Congress that have led to multiple men being convicted and serving time in prison.
And all of that came from the left.
Now that President Trump has called me a traitor, which is absolutely untrue and horrific, Mark Levin has been calling me a traitor.
And so have other prominent, likely paid social media activists.
This puts blood in the water and creates a feeding frenzy, and it could ultimately lead to a harmful or even deadly outcome.
It could.
It could.
I mean, like, Rand Paul was at a baseball game and it got shot up by somebody.
This happens to people in the legislative branch.
Also, the timing of this just happens to be days before we take the vote and release the Epstein files.
I love America, American people, and I swear oath to uphold the Constitution.
I always do so.
I'm not a traitor.
Damn.
Yeah, she cares.
nimrod pod in unknown
She cares.
rex jones
However, when the president of the United States irresponsibly calls a member of Congress of his own party a traitor, he is signaling what must be done to a traitor.
I fought harder than anyone to help President Trump get elected, and I support his administration, the promises made along the campaign.
I'm a Republican in good standing.
I paid all my dues to the NRCC.
My voting record is one of the most conservative in Congress.
I'm proud of that.
Toxic and dangerous rhetoric and politics must end.
We need healing in this country for all Americans.
And then, like, we know what this is.
If you're on the internet, like, you understand, right?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Like, people are like, they have your address.
tim tompkins
So, you know, this, this is exactly what happens when you fight back against your own party.
rex jones
Or just, yeah, try to be independent, you know, in any way, right?
They nuke you.
tim tompkins
They nuke you.
Here's the thing.
It's like, this is why you see so many of the people who are either on the right or the left, they don't really step out of line.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
Because when you step out of line, guys, this is what happens to you.
And it's been proven now that people pay a lot of money to do smear campaigns.
It's just, it's out there.
It doesn't take a whole lot of research to go and find that.
So it doesn't even matter.
It could be a random Joe Schmo, or it can literally be somebody part of the system that's hired somebody to go and do this.
And they do this because they want to, they're going to make an example out of her.
That's what's going to happen.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim tompkins
Because if they don't whack-a-mole and squash her here, then somebody else gets to go up on the view and somebody else goes and makes another statement.
And then Trump is starting to slip on his position and realize that he's really having cracks within his base.
And he can't allow that, guys.
rex jones
I mean, real quick, like we're going to take calls here in about 30 minutes.
We're going to put the number out.
I just want to kind of wet people's whistle for that.
If you're still watching, if you're still entertained, we put that number out, jump on it and call in, and we will talk to you.
And, you know, looking forward to doing that, of course.
But we're going to do a prepared segment after that.
And Tim's going to go in depth on a prepared topic and something that impacts all of us.
tim tompkins
Groceries, baby.
Right.
rex jones
And the rising prices.
And I mean, it's so crazy.
Like, I just, I made the decision to just go deer hunt.
I'm going to fill out my deer tag this year.
I'm just going to eat venison.
I'm not going to pay for the meat anymore because it's too expensive.
I'm tired of paying $10 a pound for like high-quality ground beef.
It's insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
You either get the slop or you basically have to get the slop that doesn't feel good and not good for you, or you just pay more money.
rex jones
Hunting license is cheap.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
You know, so that's definitely something pretty cool.
But as far as what you're talking about, you talk about someone and having the machine rise up against them and try to take them out.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
I mean, Trump is finished.
And I believe this.
And people doesn't care, though.
Yeah.
People say, but I like, don't you feel that as well?
Like whatever the movement was supposed to be, how it's fractured and broken up.
You can't repair.
tim tompkins
Here's what happens, right?
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
We go this year.
We go through 2026.
More stuff is going to happen.
I'm predicting it now.
We can go watch his video.
Republicans lose the Republicans lose the midterms.
We're not doing it.
He's not going to have half the stuff move within Congress.
You're going to see a lot of gridlock.
You're going to see a ton.
We might even see another government shutdown.
rex jones
You might see another impeachment.
Seriously.
After the war power stuff specifically, he's been in violation.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
So what he's doing is he's trying to pass as much as he can before that happens because the writing is on the wall, you know?
And it's crazy because like at some point, I was like, okay, well, it probably won't be a bad thing for the Republicans to have control of the house, control of the house, and control of the Senate.
But like now, you can even see the people who are in Congress are like struggling to even vote in favor of some of the things that he's trying to pass.
So yeah, this is crazy, man.
rex jones
Yeah.
Midterms.
tim tompkins
That's what I predict.
rex jones
I remember in 2008, I was probably like six years old, but I'm old enough to remember just a tiny bit of it.
And I remember when Obama got elected that whole year, everyone was kind of like, it's kind of like now, where like they expected him to do a bunch of stuff.
And then, you know, obviously financial crisis and all that is a big factor.
But like there was a drop off in positive interest for sure with Obama after that first year.
And I think we're kind of going through that now.
You know, Trump's first term, 2017, 2018 was amazing.
That was phenomenal.
Like that was a great time period.
And it was in like 2019 and 2020 with COVID.
tim tompkins
I think what it was, it was mild.
I don't think it was phenomenal.
I think he didn't really know what he was doing.
He didn't really have the cabinet that he wanted.
I think we weren't at war.
We weren't at war.
rex jones
This is what I'm talking about, right?
Like overall state of the world at that time in relation to the presidency.
He wasn't managing conflicts overseas.
We weren't tariffing other countries, weren't bombing people.
tim tompkins
No, he was more domestic focused for sure.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
There was a lot of stuff.
He paid military workers a lot more.
He gave them raises.
There's good things that happened.
rex jones
And why is it our job to have 600 military bases?
Why?
But now he's been convinced by that neocon wing or just like the Republicans.
They are the neocons.
He's been convinced by them to just do whatever they want.
And all that is is foreign conflict.
I just, the money, like he's, he gave, it was like 62 billion or something to Zelensky.
tim tompkins
Little Zelensky.
rex jones
Little Zelensky.
Oh, yes.
Little Zelensky, man.
And if we just had that money at home, like you're not going to be able to tell me that somehow that money is all is like they needed it so incredible.
It'll make them win the war.
But then at the same time, if we take that money back home, then oh, it's not really a lot of money.
It's not going to do anything.
You can't tell me that.
You can't tell me all this stuff.
They don't care.
They don't give a fuck.
tim tompkins
Here's what I think the arguments are for it.
I know a lot of people take the stance of being like, all right, well, why are we spending all this money?
I think what the argument is for spending the money is, and we'll talk about the global supply chain here in a little bit when I go through my deep dive.
The world is so interconnected.
And depending on who's in control, depending on where is depends on how good of a deal you get and how good it is for America itself.
We like to get really good deals and we like it cheap, right?
So if you've got a scenario where potentially we should have never even gotten to the Ukraine war, right, to begin with, but let's say Russia controls a certain region.
You think they're going to give us the best deal versus Ukraine?
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
rex jones
I mean, I feel like it's kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, right?
Like, we go over there, we fuck with them in what they perceive to be their backyard.
And then, like, after this hypothetical situation, which is what I believe will happen, after Ukraine loses, we're supposed to go to Russia and be like, well, you know, that was fun.
You won.
Now let's work together, which I think is actually that is America's attitude.
And that's why we're so globally hated because nothing is more insulting and demeaning than like after you were to lose, let's say, like a pickup game of basketball, you're like, oh, yeah, man.
Let me just let me let's let's play again.
Let's play some more games.
You're like, no, you fouled me.
You tried to hurt me.
You tried to break my leg.
Oh, no, Man, I'm not going to do that this time.
We're going to look.
We're not even going to play basketball.
We're going to play NBA 2K on the Xbox, right?
tim tompkins
You know what a perfect example of that is?
Not to get less.
No, no, we have a perfect example of that was what happened with the oil situation.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So we, so I did a segment on this, but for a quick reminder, back in 2021, right, when or 2022, whenever this whole Ukraine-Russia thing happened and, you know, we blew up the pipe, we blew up the pipeline.
We had all the instability that came with the oil, the raw, the oil prices.
rex jones
We didn't, whoa.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
This is the real problem.
tim tompkins
We didn't blow it up.
unidentified
We didn't blow it up.
rex jones
Look, we're going to lose our Republican funding now.
And it's all your fault.
And I'm very upset.
You just said we blew up a pipeline.
We don't do that.
Was the Ukrainians?
tim tompkins
It was the Ukrainians that did that.
CLTM6.
rex jones
That's right.
tim tompkins
But yeah, it was Ukrainians that did that.
rex jones
And yes, we are taking calls.
tim tompkins
Yes, we are.
But what ended up happening is Biden and that administration went and asked Indian, he asked India, hey, look, global prices are out of control.
Even though we sanctioned the hell out of them, we need you guys to stabilize the Russian prices.
So at that point, India was only like, they were only importing about like 2%. of Russian oil.
We asked them to crank that all the way up.
Right.
And then they're starting to increase that.
And now they're somewhere around like 30, 40% or something like that.
But that's because we told them to help out stabilize the entire world.
Then Biden goes away.
Trump comes in.
And now we reverse it.
We say, hey, you're helping Russia with this war.
You're paying a lot of money and you're importing.
And India is like, what the?
Well, you told us to.
unidentified
Hold up.
tim tompkins
Hold up.
rex jones
You know, to speak to your point, both of these are forms of war, right?
So Biden is giving the Ukrainians a lot of physical weapons, but at the same time, he's trying to stabilize global trade in that respect when it comes to the oil.
Trump is trying to be like, I'm not involved, not giving them weapons, not doing that anymore.
But he's trying to use economic warfare on other countries.
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
Right.
So the country, America, as it is, we can never stop.
Like, if we're involved in any form of conflict, we'll just kind of change the dimension of where the battle is fought.
tim tompkins
But then don't you see when you do these knee-jerk reactions, you tell a country to do one thing and then you punish them for that same action.
No one can trust the United States at that point.
That's the issue.
And you know what it comes from is whether it's blue, a Republican that goes in and then a Democrat, it's like it's always swapping, right?
rex jones
It's two wings on the same bird.
tim tompkins
Two inch on the same bird, man.
But like, here's the thing.
They have polar opposite agendas where they just have to undo whatever the previous administration did just because you spite that person and you hate them.
That's where a lot of it comes down that like you've got to be all blue or you got to be all red.
And when you switch things so quickly each time, how do you're supposed to build on top of it, not tear the whole card and rebuild it again?
rex jones
That's the thing.
That's what stagnation is.
There's no advancement, right?
And when a thing doesn't grow, it begins to die.
So like that, that's what's been going on here.
And it's been going on for quite a long time.
And I think you see Trump, you know, and the sad, the sad thing is, you know, maybe it's not sad, but whatever.
Like you see Trump as kind of like maybe last way out of ragging ball from this system when in fact he's like the cherry on top of the whole system, right?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Because he's willing to use the power that's been built up.
It was always thought no one would be this brash.
No one would be this, you know, insane with what they do.
A thousand percent tariff, you know, 500%.
Because I decided I just say so, which I believe is unconstitutional now that I've done my research on it.
You just, you end up in a situation where like whoever gets into office next, they are the dictator because Trump was the dictator, right?
You know what?
It sucks so hard to have to admit that the shit libs were right because all the stuff I'm saying now, like the bad stuff about Trump, unfortunately, like I voted for him twice.
Like I believed in this man for a decade, basically.
All the stuff that I'm saying about him now, they were saying forever ago.
Of course, it came from like a like misguided, incorrect place.
So like they're calling him a Russian agent and all this, which is just patently not true.
But they were right.
Like he is a narcissist.
He is power hungry.
He doesn't care.
He's not focused.
All these things that they said, you go, no, Trump is the most focused person ever.
He plays Sudoku underwater against Kim Jong-un.
Like, like, no, no, he's just a dude.
He's an old dude.
And you can't put that God complex on anyone because no one is worthy of it.
tim tompkins
No.
rex jones
Right?
tim tompkins
Not at all.
rex jones
But, but I did that.
You know, I really put Trump up on that pedestal and I said, This is my guy.
I, I, like, I, I with his politics, I like him as a person, and then it goes on into the future.
I don't care.
Look, if Trump was the worst person ever and like he got blackmailed and then impeached, but before that, he like fixed the government and like got rid of it or something.
tim tompkins
He's a hero.
He's that playboy that that love talks you, love bombs you, tells you everything you want to hear, baby.
rex jones
No, the love bombing, yes, tells you everything you want to hear, baby, and then suddenly, the love bombing, and then they slap you around.
You have to be like, awesome, this is great.
No, look, we're living in a world now where this guy is like the most famous person besides like Jesus who has ever lived.
tim tompkins
Oh, that's a bull.
rex jones
No, it's true.
tim tompkins
Everyone, he's up there.
rex jones
Everyone on the planet, I guarantee people in Nepal, like working on like the base of Everest, know about Trump.
Okay, like seriously, uncontact tribes probably know about Trump somehow.
unidentified
But like everyone has an opinion on Papua New Guinea tribe, just like you guys know who Trump is.
tim tompkins
Of course, we know who Trump is.
rex jones
Everyone has an opinion on the man, right?
And that's why in 2016, when he was elected, it was such a big deal because everyone agreed that he was going to be a wrecking ball to the system.
They liked him or they hated him.
It didn't matter.
They agreed on what he was.
And it's been shown that our human instincts to that were just so totally wrong.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's the amnesia.
But you know, at the end of the day, we keep going down this route.
I think we end up doing what's happening in Mexico at a certain point.
I'm not endorsing this FBI.
Don't send the black truck.
rex jones
We'll go to that.
We have more MTG stuff, which we'll do later, but we'll go.
tim tompkins
We'll go.
But here's the thing: this is what happens when you're really unhappy with your government, guys.
rex jones
So just give me a second.
I'm going to put it full screen.
Just talk about it.
tim tompkins
So if you haven't seen there are riots happening in Mexico, this is one of the things that's pretty nuts.
Do a little bit of volume.
I want to hear a little bit of that case.
rex jones
That's really friendly and nice, right?
That's really friendly and nice behavior.
What's going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
So she barricaded herself on bomb, the Jewish president of Mexico.
She bombarded or not bombarded.
She barricaded herself in there, right?
And they are mad at her because they believe that she's cartel affiliated or paid off.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
And I'll explain everything.
This is one of those.
Can you show the other one too?
rex jones
I got you.
unidentified
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
This one is like one of the mild ones, but like these people are not playing.
rex jones
It doesn't look mild to me.
That's like 20,000 people.
tim tompkins
From okay, so that this is the one.
I think, yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
tim tompkins
This is the violent one.
rex jones
Mostly peace.
tim tompkins
Mostly peace.
rex jones
I'm glad I don't believe in that.
unidentified
Damn.
Oh, man.
rex jones
They dragged the car.
unidentified
He's in the nuts, bro.
He's dead, dude.
rex jones
That's really smart.
I guess that's what you're supposed to do.
It's like you're supposed to break the riot police up and then you're supposed to like tackle them in groups.
tim tompkins
Yeah, there's too many people for them to handle.
rex jones
Yeah, how interesting.
tim tompkins
He's beating them with bull cutters, man.
rex jones
He's beating you with bull cutters.
It's crazy.
unidentified
And the ones that are doing the violence cover their face.
rex jones
Not all, but actually.
Dude, that actually hurts, man.
It could kill someone very easily.
That's the thing about violence, right?
It's like if you have, if you ever sustain any kind of like serious injury, you understand how fleeting mortality is in general.
And just like, you know, like I, we take life for granted.
And a lot of times people in America domestically are like, I want to go protest.
I want to go fight the police.
And I saw a lot of this during 2020 and whatnot and the George Floyd stuff.
Like I had friends on West Campus that went out just because it was fun.
I had friends who got shot with the Deanbags and whatnot.
tim tompkins
Damn.
rex jones
And I was like, you really, you really go out and do that when if you get shot in the eye, like it's over.
tim tompkins
It's over.
rex jones
It's over.
Whatever thing in life you want to be able to see.
Right.
But then obviously in America, it's kind of more of a LARP.
You know, it's live action roleplay.
It's cosplay where you have the Antifa face off, you know, against like the Patriot Front or whatever.
I won't disparage the Proud Boys because they've been, they've had enough stuff going on with them.
They've been put in jail enough for unwarranted reasons.
But you got a group like Patriot Front or Antifa.
It's just like this posturing or posing that you're tough and that you're willing to go out on the street and be an enforcer when in reality, when the cop comes over, you're not going to be like, fuck you, pig.
You're like, I'm sorry, sir.
I'm here for a demonstration.
Like, I've seen it, right?
I've also seen them get violent and get uppity and upset, but that's different context.
And they like, they come out at night, they ambush, they do all sorts of behavior like that.
Broad daylight, these people are down at their nation's like Capitol building and they're fighting the riot police with bolt cutters.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
You know what?
Well, you know what's going through that guy's head?
He's like, I did not sign up for this.
He has to defend.
No matter what this guy's opinion is, he has to show up to work, ladies and gentlemen.
He doesn't get the police.
Let's say like he agrees with these people, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
He has no choice but to hold the line and defend.
And you get your ass beat, basically.
rex jones
It is no other day at work.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
I have to go.
tim tompkins
I have to get my ass beat.
rex jones
I have to get riot shield and helmet.
tim tompkins
And they're going to, he could literally be like in favor of throwing the government and changing everything that's going on with the cartel system.
But because he is being paid by the government and he has to show up to work, he gets his ass beat with the power.
rex jones
Well, that's the thing is like people ultimately, like most people end up very comfortable in whatever dynamic they're in.
Right.
So like, I'm not, look, I'm not criticizing even the police in this, you know, like there are people on an individual level, but the system they represent is bad and evil and corrupt and wrong.
Right.
But at a certain level, a guy's got to put food on the table for his family.
Like, yeah, gonna go out and do this, right?
tim tompkins
So let me explain to you guys what this is about and what's happened.
Okay.
So I see a lot of commentary, but I'm not seeing a lot of people break down what exactly happened or what even led to this to begin with.
I was a little confused myself.
So I was like, let me take the time to do a little secondary explanation and figure out what's going on.
So Mexico blew up because of years of like cartel violence.
You've got government paralysis and where you've got like this joining and melting of the cartel in the government.
And it's a super corrupt system.
Guys, as much as our government is a mess, be grateful that we at least have some fun.
rex jones
No, I want to live there.
It's so awesome.
tim tompkins
Where, you know, there's not a gang.
MS-16 can't or MS-13 can't go and pay, you know, the government, the judicial branch off to go and do something.
rex jones
Have you ever watched Narcos?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
I just imagine it's like that.
Like, I've been to Cancunis, La Muiras, I've been to some places down there.
tim tompkins
I've been to the Bob, but like you go to the wrong place as a gringo, they'll stop you, make you pay a tax.
And that's not, and that's like the they might get you too.
rex jones
You know, they might take your stuff to it at a minimum.
I wonder, you know, the terrorists are famous for taking people's like trucks and stuff.
You know, so there was a Mormon family.
I'm not trying to step on your there was a Mormon family that was like taking some sort of trip and they were going through Mexico and they got stopped by the cartel and they like all of them got killed.
There's like a dozen people.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
If you if you guys are ever in Mexico and you see a truck, couple of trucks that are there stopping people, you better turn around, guys.
Better turn around.
But here's what led to the spark.
Okay.
You've got a mayor.
His name is Carlos Manzo.
Okay.
So Carlos Manzo was an independent mayor for Yurapan, which is like a region in Mexico.
And so he was one of the very few local leaders that was confronting the cartels.
And he was outwardly speaking about the corrupt politicians and the officials and just preaching essentially that they need to dump the swamp essentially and replace all of that.
So he's clearly dissenting against the current status quo.
rex jones
Was dissenting.
tim tompkins
This is the was part.
So here's what ended up happening.
A 17-year-old cartel-linked shooter carried out a hit, and he carried out a hit that was, and they actually did the forensics on the guns.
It was tied to previous cartel-related events.
So that's how they know it was a cartel hit, but it was a clear retaliation method.
So they literally killed this guy while he was at like a Day of the Dead festival in broad daylight.
Well, not broad daylight, but at night celebrating, having fun with the people.
And they literally assassinated this guy.
So let's go turn the volume down just a little quickly.
Here's, oh, it's already turned down.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
So here's what happened.
This is one of the scenes from there.
unidentified
My ops.
My ops are here.
tim tompkins
He went freaking out.
rex jones
It is like Marcos.
This is like a scene from Marcos, man.
tim tompkins
And that's him.
He got shot.
rex jones
So, his execution's on tape.
tim tompkins
They got.
rex jones
This looks like his execution.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that is his.
That's the gunshots.
They didn't actually film him getting shot like Trump.
rex jones
You know, I mean, it's close enough.
Yeah, it's quite paints quite a picture.
tim tompkins
And they're all crying because they all know he's pretty much dead at that point.
So he was like one of these really popular elect like officials that was that was running.
And he was outspoken.
Like there was a lot of people that agreed with this man.
So he essentially became a martyr after this situation.
And so, you know, before the riots even happened, like you had mentioned before, like the president, Claudia, she had they, a lot of people blamed the government for this.
They were like, he was complaining prior to this event.
He was like, hey, guys, there's a lot of conflict going on here.
And the local police that are supposed to be guarding me aren't doing enough.
And I'm scared for my own safety.
And he was basically making a case and pleading to the government on a federal level, hey, I need more protection.
And so the president at that time just basically said, all right, no, we're going to continue this soft confrontation on strategy with security.
And, you know, she kind of lets the cartels open freely.
So when this guy is assassinated and it's time for the government to basically make an announcement and say, she basically doubles down and she just says that there are no changes to the national security plan.
We're going to operate as status quo.
And then, you know, that's going to piss a lot of people off, guys.
And so this basically confirmed the public's fear where they're like, oh, the government's in bed.
They're not going to do anything.
And the government isn't serious about stopping violence.
So before the riots even began, and Rex pointed this out, she was already putting up barricades outside of the outside of the outside of the palace.
Like she knew that this was going to lead to riots.
And she was like, all right, look, to mitigate the amount of like damage and everything that's going on, let's put up these walls right before they even start protesting.
And so this is like really the whole organization is because of this cartel in bed with politics, Claudia as the president, not really taking it serious.
And then you have Gen Z organizers just like you had in Nepal.
It seems to be a big wave of these Gen Z.
rex jones
I think so.
I think our CIA is also down there.
I think we're helping with this for sure.
This is the exact kind of thing that we love.
We love this shit up, man.
So like we absolutely probably really helped them get this started.
And, you know, like we as a country, like we don't like that lady.
That lady has like done Trump or deals that have angered Trump before.
And, you know, she's done some things and they really want a compliant Latin America.
You see with Argentina, you see what they're doing in Venezuela and by extension, Colombia.
You see all their behavior and posturing.
Like they love places like El Salvador, right?
And they want a lot more places like that down there that have, you know, a very powerful leader, like an autocrat or dictator essentially that runs the place.
unidentified
And then they are textbook regime change is what I call this.
rex jones
That's what they do.
So very interesting topic.
It's one that, you know, bodes very, not going to say poorly, but it bodes very climactically for the world.
As in things are heating up across the globe, across the planet.
There are more and more of these civil conflicts where people rise up against their government.
Numerous countries in Europe are having referendums on their governments.
They're having collapses.
I mean, all over.
tim tompkins
It feels like the world is.
rex jones
Yeah, people are, people are very, well, they're just, people are very disaffected with their leadership in the West.
And like we talk about the MTG thing, like I think Marjorie Taylor Greene represents a large portion of the electorate with the things that she's saying on the view in those clips that we showed.
And then Trump coming out and rebelling so hard against it.
I just see a situation where, you know, who knows how much damage can be done before the midterms.
And I'm sure the answer is a lot, but if we're engaged in a war or some kind of conflict and the midterms come along and the Democrats sweep and they take the House and the Senate, they're going to impeach Trump.
tim tompkins
They're going to try.
rex jones
They've done it twice before.
They love doing that.
tim tompkins
There's not going to be enough.
Like you still need you still need enough Republicans.
Even if they have the majority, they would have to have like a super majority.
They'd have to have a lot of money.
rex jones
I mean, how bad can things get, man?
Like, this is the thing that I'm at.
That's the question I'm asking here.
I think the Republican Party is going to fall apart.
tim tompkins
Yes, but like at the end of the day, even though they're having a fraction, the Republicans who don't like Trump would never have the political suicide to impeach them.
rex jones
This is true.
You're right.
You know, I agree with you thinking about it now.
And you touch on a key thing here.
These are not the Liz Cheney type of Republicans.
These are not the Elise Stephonic type of Republicans.
These are Republicans that are not angry at Trump and willing to side with the Democrats on the basis of being a part of the power structure and being part of the so-called elite.
These are new wave populist politicians that are trying to keep their authenticity to the base in order to get re-elected coming out against Trump.
tim tompkins
It's all about reelection.
rex jones
Yes, it's all about re-election.
So it creates some very interesting conflicts where you see situations where, you know, on the Epstein things, like MTG aligning with, you know, the Democrats, quote unquote, on that.
How dare she?
How dare she do that?
How dare she go to the person that's probably not even gay?
How dare she go to the person that's probably not even gay's home?
That's not allowed.
But I got a couple more clips.
Exactly.
I got a couple more clips of MTG and then let's go ahead and start taking callers here.
Guys, if you have a question, if you have a topic specifically, we appreciate that.
And then when you get your call screen, you're going to have the opportunity to say that really quick.
So just say what that is, and we'll be able to see it on our screen.
But we are taking calls tonight on really any geopolitical or whatever you guys want to talk about.
tim tompkins
Maybe it's whatever we've spoken about tonight, whatever is burning on your mind, whatever you're seeing on the internet that you want us to talk about.
We'll open the lines up for that.
rex jones
So, I do, I do want to ask one question if you want.
I do want to ask my question.
Um, what do you think of the second golden age, as Trump calls it?
tim tompkins
Like, as is, like, this, this is the golden age.
rex jones
Do you think that we're in the golden age?
That's a question I'm asking all the callers.
I just want you to tell me yes or no and why.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's actually put in the chat, guys.
Let us know.
Do you think this is the second golden age?
Do we do we feel like we have hit that point?
rex jones
You want to set up the calls real quick?
tim tompkins
Sorry about that, guys.
rex jones
Sorry about that.
One touch of the keyboard and it all goes away.
All goes away.
We're getting calls set up right now, guys.
We're very excited to do that with you.
At the end of the day, this show is powered by the listeners, and we appreciate every single one of you guys.
And, you know, we've had people like New Greiper and Raj call in.
We've had people that are really educated on their viewpoint and want to represent their viewpoint in the best possible way.
And, like, that's that's what I've really, you know, I don't want to say surprised by.
I've really been thrilled by that when we get people to call in.
We're not just having someone that has, you know, a couple of lines that they're trying to say or a talking point they're interested in.
They're really breaking down at a high level, you know, like what they're politically motivated about and what they're inspired by and what upsets them.
And that's what we want.
So every time we have a long conversation with the viewers, we really think you guys are phenomenal callers.
They're phenomenal.
tim tompkins
I enjoy every single call.
rex jones
I don't think we've had a bad one.
tim tompkins
No.
rex jones
I don't think we've had a bad caller on the show.
And that speaks to the quality of person that is watching the show.
unidentified
So if you're want to open up for four people, you know, let's, yeah, let's do four people.
rex jones
Now, keep in mind, guys, if you're on the line with us and it's a while, I mean, there's four people on the call.
tim tompkins
And if and if it like sends you to like a busy sign, that means all four slots have been full.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
So you definitely want to be as soon as we pop up the little banner and everything like that.
Definitely call in because it's set to a max of four people.
rex jones
Here, go to stream here, real quick.
tim tompkins
Yeah, hold on.
rex jones
Look at that, guys.
Look at the dog, Cam.
Isn't that cute?
That's really cute right there.
tim tompkins
He's he's having tonight.
rex jones
He's sleepy time.
unidentified
Hold on.
tim tompkins
I think Rupert is like our third guest, honestly.
He's our third co-host.
rex jones
He's our first guest and third co-host.
He runs the computer, actually.
tim in seattle
You are connected as the host.
tim tompkins
Welcome, host.
unidentified
You are now in the host room and can manage your callers for the Colin Studio web interface.
tim tompkins
Again, he's so cute.
Okay, guys, we're going to go ahead and put up the number for you guys to call in.
We'll be back shortly, okay?
rex jones
All right, we're back now, and we're here with Tim, our first caller of the night.
Tim, what's on your mind?
How are you doing?
tim in seattle
I'm doing good.
A little nervous about what your generation is going to face.
unidentified
And you just asked, like, what is the second golden age?
tim in seattle
Well, I think it's pretty much just the normalization of the technocracy.
unidentified
Yep.
tim in seattle
I think that that's what it is.
rex jones
I agree.
unidentified
And we're just, yeah, ultimately, I think I'm okay.
rex jones
I think they're quite checked.
Yeah, I think we're good.
tim in seattle
Okay.
tim tompkins
Keep going, man.
unidentified
Sorry.
tim in seattle
Oh, yeah.
I just think that once they turned on Gideon, that was the final straw.
You guys know about that, right?
tim tompkins
You might be.
I'm not.
rex jones
Tell us about that.
tim in seattle
I think, well, you know, I haven't really done that much research other than that.
I know it's the general gist of it is a lighter version of lavender that's being used in Israel against the Gossams.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
tim in seattle
And it's been monitoring all our comms.
I guess they turned it on a couple of weeks before they shot Truck Kirk.
Right.
And so I think that whole situation with the assassination was more of a test to see whether or not they could get a well, I think they're trying to sell the necessity for the police state, but based off of everybody's responses, right?
And I think that they were throwing more fuel on the anti-Semitism stuff.
I mean, hyping it and hyping it and hyping it, trying to get that Streisand effect just so they could show that America is just full of all this and all that, ultimately to fuel, I guess, the next phase of Gideon.
So, yeah, I think that that's what's happening.
rex jones
Well, the game plan's always been mass data collection.
And the thing was, and is they've done it forever, but they never truly had the machinery to actually comb through everything and have actionable data off of it.
And that's what the AI is.
tim tompkins
AI is nuts.
What is it?
Valentier or what is it?
rex jones
What is there's a there's that there's Palantir there's Oracle there's there's yeah all these companies open AI and they all have government contracts is it isn't that nice and they tell us you know my dad makes this point they tell us that um humans are bad because we have carbon waste and all this, but they want to build data centers that'll use twice the power we currently use on the earth for everyone.
So, I mean, what's your take on it?
tim in seattle
It's retarded.
rex jones
Yeah, it is retarded.
That's true.
tim in seattle
Well, they could have made these salinization plants, I mean, right off of that instead of just, but it's, they're just making the excuse.
They don't really, they just treat us like peasants.
And then it's just more and more a normalization of that, too.
It's true.
rex jones
Techno-feudal.
tim in seattle
The lack of human rights.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim in seattle
Everything.
Like your dad's one of the, his, when I first got introduced to him in 2010, he was having a guest on called Edwin Black.
And he did this 20-minute documentary called One Mainframe to Rule them all.
And it was about RFID and like the inception and the conception of it from IBM, from like the camps and stuff like that.
Now, you know, again, I'm not trying to trigger everybody like, oh, the camps, oh my God, that doesn't exist.
But what I'm saying is that that agenda to basically track and trace every human being would, you know, that's always been there.
They just in, you know, whatever form of technology that they had at the time.
But we're here now.
rex jones
Yeah.
tim in seattle
And now that they've like your dad was scanned, Harrison was scanned.
Yeah.
And y'all have nanotech in you now.
We all have nanotech in us.
tim tompkins
Someone came to know I saw it.
I was like, what's going on here?
I don't, I see where you guys are going.
I mean, I'm not talking for you, but I see where he was going with that.
And I saw the video.
I saw the clips.
I can't, I can't quite buy that one quite yet.
You know, there could be other reasons for specific.
And I always very skeptical when anyone calls themselves an expert that I just, I'm very critical as an engineer.
So I, I, look, to each his own, but for me, I, I, I don't know if we have that.
rex jones
I think, I think we're like a decade out if that of people being like, oh, okay, I use the card I tap to pay.
I just use my hand to pay.
tim tompkins
And that's, yeah, I think that's more of the scam I see.
tim in seattle
I think it's worse than that.
You know, I think I've seen, I've seen some weird behavioral characteristics in, because I live in Seattle, most capital or most vaccinated county in all of the United States.
I see some very bizarre behaviors these days.
Not quite certain how to quite frame it, but I think they're experimenting in real time with like how to control people with the nanotech.
I think we're there.
tim tompkins
But don't you think that's a little bit of the social media?
And like I would say Seattle is one of those fucking Wild West, crazy, LA, weird, like liberal just attracts a certain demographic of people too.
Like we don't have those people here as much in Texas.
tim in seattle
No, that's Portland.
Seattle is a very sedated, mellow, puffy coat wearing Subaru driving, voting blue, doing nothing but obeying every authoritarian figure that they possibly can.
It's a very submissive state.
It really is.
And like outside the city limits, everybody's God fearing and it's completely red.
And so they just go to church on Sundays.
They work Monday through Friday.
They take care of their families.
There's that.
And then there's the liberals here.
But there's no Cowboys and Indians and shit and wild people here.
Those are all killed off by the shot.
So I think I'm probably the most, as you would describe in the city.
But like I do see strange behaviors from what I've seen before.
I'm not saying that I'm an expert in the matter, but when Their overall agenda was like humans are hackable animals.
Why would they do all this?
Why would they lower all the towers to the roosts?
You know, there's just this agenda, this technocracy.
So I think the second golden age is just us just getting spoon fed or enslavement.
rex jones
Well, I mean, he's he's the AI.
He's the AI president.
He's the tech president.
He's giving Bitcoin, maybe he's giving 500 billion to that Project Stargate thing.
I look at it, you know, I don't know.
tim tompkins
a whole lot.
rex jones
No, I'll do more research.
I'll learn more about the RFID and about the energy weapons.
I know that stuff is real.
I think about it just from a screen perspective, just from a social media perspective.
Like they, they already have enough stuff.
tim tompkins
So, yeah, they're tracking everything down to your exact location.
That's a real thing.
There's tracking, yes.
But in general, the behavior drive you.
tim in seattle
Humans are hackable.
Like this nanotech is going to be piloting you.
rex jones
They do believe they say this to like WEF and stuff.
They're like, yeah, we're going to be able to read people's thoughts.
tim tompkins
I see if they do the neurotrip stuff.
Like, I'll never get that.
I'll never, it'll always be the new cool thing that seems really nice at first.
And like, just like the new digital ID, it's like, oh, you slowly introduce it and then it becomes mainstream.
And then you can't really access the old systems without having it.
That's how I see it.
rex jones
Okay.
In closing, what can we do about this, Tim?
tim in seattle
Revolt, but in the most peaceful way possible.
You really have to send a message that lasts generations that you can never mess with the human genome or anything like this ever again.
You guys have to get so bold as to introduce laws that shoot people into space just to send a message.
There has to be some innovative.
rex jones
I don't think you should be able to grow people.
I'm very against that.
I don't think you should be able to grow human organs and add.
I want another me that I don't think you should be able to like barring, like some, like cystic fibrosis situation or like what about organs?
Or what.
You should be able to genetically modify your kid.
I dude, if they're gonna grow it in a vat and they're gonna put it in you, you're dead anyway.
That's my opinion.
tim tompkins
But if you could get it to 150, would you have Repo Men, right?
unidentified
We all remember that movie.
tim in seattle
What Repo Men With uh Dude Law and Forrest Whitaker, like lab grown organs because the world was so toxic and you had to rent your your stomach.
tim tompkins
That's a movie that that's crazy.
rex jones
That sounds.
unidentified
What's that called Repo Men, never heard of.
rex jones
I'm gonna watch it now, all right, thank you.
tim in seattle
Thank you, you should, it's.
rex jones
Yeah, thank you for the recommendation.
I appreciate you.
tim tompkins
You know, I would rather.
I, I would rather do the genetically created organ over what China is doing, where they're literally stealing them off of young people right, like they're they.
They're actually farming organs out there.
So um yeah, let's get our next guy.
rex jones
Yeah, let's go to Nimrod Pod.
Nimrod Pod, how are you doing?
How are you doing Nimrod Pod?
Can you hear us?
Nimrod Pod?
nimrod pod in unknown
Oh yeah, how are we doing?
rex jones
Fellas doing phenomenal.
How are you doing tonight?
nimrod pod in unknown
Not too bad, A little stressed out, with all this bullshit going on in the in the political sphere.
I want to take a moment to answer your question about the second golden age.
tim tompkins
Okay.
nimrod pod in unknown
I do not think this is the second golden age.
Instead, I think this second Trump term has become the literal turning point in humanity.
Like the matrix being broken, everyone on all sides of the spectrum are being forced to rewire their brains and get their shit together.
tim tompkins
I agree.
nimrod pod in unknown
And I think Alex makes a really good point.
Like we can't be white-pilled and let Trump bend us over, sock us in the ass while we plug our ears and chew on paint chips.
But we also can't be black-pilled, slitting our wrists.
We have to be some sort of truth-pilled and hold Trump's feet to the fire.
No, my issue with that is that at some point we have to stop letting it slide.
Like Alex has no problem criticizing Trump, but he always caveats it with, you know, he's still our lifeboat and I'll never stop supporting him.
So clearly Trump isn't taking our criticism seriously.
And I mean, I think we need to at least temporarily withdraw support until he actually course corrects.
So I just want to ask you guys, like, what is our solution?
We can bitch about Trump all day long, but we need to start looking past Trump at some point.
rex jones
Well, Tim, do you want to go first?
tim tompkins
Here's what I would say.
I don't think they're, you know, I see them doing the no-kings protests.
I see protesting happening.
What really has to happen, guys, to be to be quite frank, is something dramatic that really destabilizes America as a whole to where there's no option but to replace that.
Like, for an example, you've got like what happened in Nepal were literal riots.
I don't think we're quite there yet because at the end of the day, even if we were to do something, Americans are docile enough that that wouldn't last long enough.
And we have enough comforts that it would be like, you still got to get back to work.
You don't want to get fired.
rex jones
So you don't lose that Netflix subscription.
tim tompkins
Exactly.
So I don't think we get to the whole civil war thing.
I know people have promised that.
I think what ends up happening is we might just be in the long haul for the next three years.
Okay.
That's how I really see this thing playing out.
And I think people would probably get so sick of it that in the 2028 election, the new candidates will have no choice but to make the right decisions after the last two presidents really royally.
rex jones
You know, and that's the thing.
And, you know, Nimrod Pod, the way I address your question is by saying, you know, Tim talks about, you know, pushback from left and center, right?
And the no-kings riots or rallies or whatever you want to call them and that, that kind of thing and possibly, you know, like riots or something like that being the thing that might generate some sort of change.
I agree with him on that, but I think what's more likely to happen and what we're seeing happen is the complete fracture of the Republican, you know, MAGA base and the people that are true MAGA, real MAGA, which I believe means America first, to be honest with you, people that are of that mindset, they're breaking with Trump because Trump didn't do the things that they elected him to do.
And this is what I see universally across the board.
And I think the way that we get out of this and make change possible, I think if truly, if 50% of the Republican base stood up and said, no, you lied to us about Epstein files, you lied to us about the wars, lied to us about inflation, economy getting better, prices going down.
I mean, he's literally saying, like, we're going to get into this.
He's saying food is cheaper.
Food is cheaper.
Food is way more expensive.
It's way more expensive.
But he's fine with being at the White House and being at Mar-a-Lago and having Benny Johnson come and like supplicate himself to him because he feels like he's in power if he does that.
If half of the base stands up and says no, and if we get referendums on elections like Massey and like MTG, where they still win, even after all of his pressure and campaigns against them, I think we may actually see him start to take some sort of better direction.
But I don't believe in him anymore.
I think he's cooked.
What's your opinion?
Do you still believe in President Trump?
nimrod pod in unknown
You know, literally up until this week, I did.
I mean, the guy they tried canceling him.
They tried putting him in jail.
They've literally tried killing him.
I'm surprised he's not dead now.
So clearly, all the bright guys want him dead.
So why shouldn't I trust him?
I feel like he literally just has a bunch of clowns in his administration.
He does make all of his own decisions, but he has a bunch of people that he can't trust feeding him information.
And he's being thrown in meeting after meeting after meeting.
So he has no time to connect with reality, connect with the people, understand what's going on on X and talk to real people.
And this is how we got to where we are today.
He's literally being siloed by a bunch of neocons.
rex jones
I mean, I hear that.
And, you know, I really agree with that argument in the first term.
And that's what people said about him.
Of course, he was dealing with the Russia hoax, which was a giant fat hoax.
It wasn't true.
And they railroaded him with that for years.
But in this second term, I just don't like being told that Lindsey Graham is more MAGA than me.
I don't like being told that Ted Cruz is more MAGA than me.
I don't like being told that any of these swamp creatures are more MAGA than me or MTG or my dad or anyone like that.
And it just seems to me like Trump has a pathological need to be liked.
And maybe he had good intentions, sure.
But ultimately, he wasn't interested in winning the affection from those who already gave it to him.
He wanted it from the people that denied him.
And now that he's been kind of put into the in-club of like the real elite circle of who goes to these like tuxedo dinners, like that's, that's how he always saw himself.
And I think he's happy to stay with them.
He's in bed with a goblin.
tim tompkins
Yeah, here's the thing.
I see where you're also saying like, well, there's still some stupid people.
I think he learned his lesson this time just a little bit.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
And he's a lot more skeptical based off of what he experienced in his first term.
I think there's a lot less of those people.
And I think that everyone who, just like a, you know, MGT that does that, if they don't fall in line, he's coming after you or he's just sending his dogs after you so that you can get in line.
I think there's a high level of like narcissism that comes into this, you know, that he doesn't think that he's actually in the wrong.
And, you know, this guy has been operating at a very high level.
I got to give him his flowers.
He's a very good salesman.
He's a very good person to be able to gallonize people and to get you to believe whatever it is that his agenda of what he wants you to, because that's what he's done his whole career.
rex jones
Very, very few people have that legend status.
Yes.
He's definitely got that.
And the thing is, he makes you want to believe in him because he's funny and he's based.
But as time goes on, I just, I see him.
I see a politician now.
And I just think he took that Reagan deal.
I mean, just what is your prognosis on 2028?
Are you a Vance guy, Nimrod Pod?
Or are you a Vance guy?
nimrod pod in unknown
Me and my co-hosts have been having a lot of discussions about 2028 recently.
I don't trust Vance.
I think he's saying all the right things.
Like it all missed, like literally making me almost ejaculate in my pants while I'm sitting in my bed watching it.
unidentified
But, you know, we can't fall for it.
nimrod pod in unknown
We keep falling for people saying the right thing, but not backing it up with action.
And the thing with Trump is he is the star of the Republican Party.
If he's not on the ballot, Republicans don't show up.
Daddy has to be on the ballot and tell him what to do or people aren't going to show up and make the right decisions.
So who's going to be the star that's going to fill his shoes and actually progress the America First movement forward?
And I've done a lot of thinking.
I love RFK Jr.
He does have an Israel problem, but net positive overall.
I mean, he really opened my eyes to what's going on in the world, at least in the Maha space.
And, you know, Matt, he's a fun idea too.
I think he's a real man.
I think he's a real man.
He's like the most founding fathers-esque person we have in Congress right now.
rex jones
What do you think about that?
nimrod pod in unknown
However, go ahead.
tim tompkins
What do you think about Vivek, Ramashwami?
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I'm pretty, I'm becoming pretty hardcore nationalists.
Actually, you know, I read Vivek's book, Truths, sitting on my bedstand, and I really loved it when he challenged Trump in the primaries in 2024.
But after seeing him kind of show his true colors, I have changed my mind a little bit.
And there's guys like James Fishback.
I'm not sure if you guys are familiar.
He's going to be challenging Byron Donald's in Florida for the gubernatorial race.
And he's just as well spoken and has all the talking points like Vivek, but he's actually speaking to issues that Gen Z, like my generation, actually cares about that actually affects us.
James Fishback, I highly recommend looking into him.
Newsmax offered to host a debate with him and Byron Donalds.
Byron refused.
He's doing like a TPUSA tour, and he keeps going to UF and FSU, all these different schools in Florida, and their College of Republicans and their TPUSA chapters are saying, okay, if you're going to bring Byron Donalds and Benny Johnson here, you have to also bring James Fishback because we want to see Fishback.
We're going to vote for Fishback.
He represents our generation.
We're coming to our school.
We're backing him.
And Byron Donaldson is refusing to acknowledge him.
And, you know, I think once he officially throws his hat in the ring, I think he could do some serious damage.
Are you a Florida guy?
Say that again?
rex jones
Are you a Florida guy?
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I'm in Texas now.
I'm in Dallas.
I moved here from Tampa a year and a half ago, though.
rex jones
I was just asking you, you're talking about Floridian state politics.
Byron Donalds, isn't it true they're trying to get him ready for a governor position?
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Yeah, no, he's running.
He's actively running.
He got Trump's endorsement.
He got Ted Cruz.
He got fucking Lindsey Graham.
All the cool guys.
tim tompkins
I wouldn't have minded.
So it's definitely helping us stop the Gen Z.
I think DeSantis did a really bad running for the campaign, but I like his policies.
rex jones
DeSantis fucked up his career.
tim tompkins
But like in general, I think he throws a lot of common sense policies out there.
I think he has run the, and you can probably speak to this better than I can, but I think he's run Florida relatively well over the course of his term.
I think a lot of Floridians really like him.
Is that a consensus?
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Floridians absolutely love Ron DeSantis.
I think it's kind of pretty split down the middle.
They're either like, hey, he's the best governor, but keep him away from foreign policy.
And I am a Trump guy over him, or they're all in on DeSantis and kind of clueless.
The interesting thing here is DeSantis is backing James Fishback.
And I think there's such a strong base for DeSantis for Floridians that it could really muck up the race a little bit.
So I'm looking forward to that.
But yeah, DeSantis is a great governor because he's governing a state.
He's not, you know, having to bend his knee to the Adelson family.
rex jones
So Fishback is running against Byron Donalds?
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He is.
rex jones
We got to cover this, Tim.
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On the GOP primary.
rex jones
That's very interesting.
You talk about the party dynamics there of the GOP.
You got DeSantis supporting one guy and then Trump, therefore MAGA base supporting another guy.
This is another one of those bellwether elections like MTG's election, like Massey's election that really shows, you know, how much, what is Trump's grip on the Republican base right now?
We're going to find out imminently.
It's going to be very interesting to see.
In closing, where can people find your show, your podcast?
And what would you like them to know tonight?
nimrod pod in unknown
Yeah, please follow at the Nimrod pod on X. We're on Spotify Apple Podcast.
Give us a follow, give us a listen, and uh, appreciate you guys having me on.
I'm a big fan, and I think you guys really do a good job of bridging the gap between the Alex Jones and the Nick Fuentes crews.
And I really would like to see you guys.
rex jones
That's where we want to be.
And that's a job, Tim.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
rex jones
That is a job.
tim tompkins
The Groipers.
rex jones
Thank you.
tim tompkins
And the info.
rex jones
Thank you.
And please check out where can we find the show again on the Nimrod pod.
Beautiful.
On X. At the Nimrod Pod on X. Awesome.
Follow him.
Check him out.
Repost his stuff.
Thank you.
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God bless.
rex jones
God bless.
All right.
We're going to go to Owl Killer and the new Groiper.
And looking forward to talking to.
Probably we'll take another call.
So is that New Green?
This is Owl Killer first.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
Hey, Owl Killer.
How are you doing?
owl killer in virginia
Hey, guys.
Hey, not bad.
Hey, so the other night you guys were going in, you were going over some of those emails that came out with Epstein and Trump.
Do you remember covering those?
unidentified
Yes, right.
owl killer in virginia
So there's been a little more elaboration on a couple of things, right?
So why Jesse on Fire is covering these?
I don't know, but the guy is doing some real phenomenal work.
So that's why he's like, oh, the dog that hasn't, the dog that hasn't barked is Trump, where Epstein is saying that.
He spent hours with Virginia or whatever at his house.
So that email comes out on 4, I think it's 410 or 4.2, 2011.
That's about a month after an article came out in the Daily Mail, I believe, where Virginia Roberts at the time, who becomes Euphray, she becomes public as that she is Jane Doe 102.
So that email follows a month after Virginia Roberts goes public.
The other thing that is really interesting is I believe it was Kyle McBreen referenced that dog that the dog that hasn't barked is actually a play on Sherlock Holmes in a story where the dog does not bark because he knows the person that is breaking into the house.
And the dog obviously doesn't bark because he recognizes the person.
So if you read into that email, Epstein is saying Trump is the one that told on him because he's the guy that knew that Virginia had been spending the time at the house.
So that, so that kind of like puts me at ease a little bit.
Where I do believe if he was actually involved with the underage girls that would have been out there.
So I do not believe he is.
I do believe it has something to do with Israel.
Because if you pay attention to when the stuff started coming out or when the Epstein stuff started becoming a big deal, it was right before the bombing of Iran.
And it was right before that big, beautiful bill.
So something happened between the passing of the big, beautiful bill, the bombing of Iran, and this whole Epstein saga, where some concessions had to be made.
And it was also that it was also shortly after Ukraine had launched that sneak attack inside of Russia where they took out like half of their bomber fleet.
And that's all of a sudden when our foreign policy started going, start like, what are we doing?
Because as you're dealing with these countries, if they cannot trust you, like basically what we want the world to believe is we were not tipped off that Ukraine was going to attack Russia in that manner.
If that had been done to our, look, I did 20 years in the military.
If that had happened in the United States, we would have launched all hell on whatever country was responsible for that.
So something is going on where our foreign policy, like if you talk about where Trump could like gain support back, if he ended the war in Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine, overnight he would jump probably 10 points.
rex jones
100%.
Not to step on your point, but like that, that's why we voted for him.
That's why we voted for him.
owl killer in virginia
Exactly.
rex jones
I want you to keep making your point because I really agree with you.
I think you're saying a lot of fascinating stuff here that resonates with a lot of people.
Isn't there almost some sort of like mystical layer to the politics, to all of it?
There's something that's happening that we can't really sense or perceive.
It's something that's going on.
And we're definitely not getting the whole story about everything.
I really do believe this.
And I've always felt this way about things.
I see it even more.
tim tompkins
If you get the whole story, then the system doesn't work anymore.
Part of the reason why everything has to be on a certain level of secrecy.
You've got top secret clearances.
It's not just the international and China and Russia can't know these specific things.
It's like the system works on these shadow situations going on where the power plays.
Here's the thing.
I really thought about this the other night.
The only reason why politicians and like these George Soros characters really do all this stuff is because there's a certain point where like as when you're making money, there's only but so much that the money can buy you in terms of enjoyment.
Yeah, once you have all the money in the world to do whatever you want, you no longer have that thing to like strive for.
So the only thing to go after at that point is power and being able to just move people like chess pieces because that's the only thing that gets you a high.
Like as you're building your business, as you're making money, you've got that enjoyment.
So you're not thinking about conquering.
rex jones
A serial killer will kill like maybe, you know, a few people or like a dozen people or something.
These people get the thrill of killing thousands, millions even with their tactical decisions.
I think they get held for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
What do you, what do you think?
What were you saying before we kind of cut you off?
tim tompkins
I just think it's a certain level of boredom that comes in where you've already climbed the mountain.
It's like, okay, what's the next mountain to climb after this situation?
And I think that literally comes down to the fact of like, okay, well, I just have to control a bunch of people because that's the only move at that point.
What do you think about that, Al?
owl killer in virginia
Oh, well, here's the thing, right?
So I used to believe the way that you're thinking now.
How old are you, by the way?
tim tompkins
I'm 27.
owl killer in virginia
Okay, so I'm 42.
So I used to believe, and you know, that's just my experience.
Like even being in the military, you got people that, you know, they got no control at home.
Their wives are cheating on them or their kids are running all over them.
So they have to be a jerk off at work.
And so you do have people like that that just need to have that control, you know, basically be a micromanager.
But I disagree.
I just think that these are like some actually evil people, like Soros, for example.
If you go back and watch that 60 minutes interview with him, he basically says when he's, he's the interviewer is asking him, hey, you know, you were going out with this so-called protector of yours and you were confiscating stuff from actual Jews pretending to be a Christian.
And, you know, this is stuff that would send somebody to the psychiatric chair.
And he goes, well, no, actually, that's probably when my character was formed.
And, you know, it's sort of like markets.
If I wasn't doing it, somebody else would have been doing it.
So the guy's a psychopath.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
owl killer in virginia
You understand?
Like that, that's that.
And I think certain people are like, why they have a, where they have trouble believing that people are this bad is because they're actually good.
And no, you wouldn't do it or your mom or your dad wouldn't do it, but they would do it.
And unfortunately, bad people, because good people don't want to have anything to do with control.
Eisenhower said, you got to be crazy or egomaniac to run for president because he didn't want to do it.
He was just sought to do it.
And he's like, okay, well, I agree with the Republicans more, so I'll become a Republican.
But he didn't want to be president.
And it goes back to George Washington, same thing.
He didn't want to be president.
And they wanted to make him king.
He didn't want to be a king.
So I think that there just so happened to be like there's a bunch of bad people that want to get into these positions of power.
Now, what I will say is, you know, for the longest time, when people, when I would hear people like, oh, the troops are going to be used against the American people, I used to laugh because I know what happened in Iraq and I know what happened in Afghanistan.
Sure, you can do a lot of damage and destroy and overthrow a country, but it's almost impossible to control a country.
And we only have like one, we have like 1.5 complete million active troops altogether.
If you can talk about all branches, and there's like 18 million combat veterans, there's 350 million people in the country.
I used to always laugh at that, that the military couldn't, could not, they couldn't occupy a state, let alone a country.
However, what I saw, what I see going on, like with these videos inside of Ukraine with these drones, it's starting to make sense to me why they have been so arrogant in the last four or five years with their policies, with what they say, the way that they talk to us.
It's like they know something that we don't know, and we have no ability to really fight back.
And that does scare me.
And I see with the AI control grid, people really like your Rex, your dad does a very good job in saying, stop asking for a civil war, stop talking about fighting back, because that's the last thing you want in this country.
Because a lot of people are going to suffer.
You do not want that.
And for the leftists out there, we do not want to be, we don't want to have a conflict with you because what is unlike what I see happening is either because Napoleon is a reaction to the French Revolution.
Hitler and Stalin are reactions to, and Lenin more so than Stalin, but they're reactions to what happens inside the Germany post-World War I and the Soviet Union post-World War I.
So those dictators arise to fill a vacuum.
So while you think you're going to have fun in your communist overthrows, be careful what you wish for because you're going to get somebody.
Some guy's going to come out of some Green Beret is going to come out of Idaho or Montana and he's going to tell people he's going to put stuff back to the way it used to be and people are just going to follow him.
And the control grid that is that's already there and is being built, whoever ends up in power is going to rule with an iron fist and there's really going to be nothing anybody can do about it.
And that's what scares me to death.
unidentified
And you're military, right?
owl killer in virginia
I'm retired.
rex jones
Retired, yeah.
So you understand how it works from a top-down control system.
And I think a lot of the people here, especially, you know, like the liberals that we make fun of and like the moderates, they see the world kind of as, you know, a video game where there are real, like no real consequences.
And we kind of, oh, like, there's always going to be food.
And, you know, everyone really wants to be nice to each other.
You know, everyone really wants to be everyone's friend.
When in reality, like these people, what's coming, you talk about the drone warfare, and you talk about like you understand military and whatnot.
When they don't need to actually put people on the streets, when they can just send drones with guns or explosives on them to suppress a crowd, I mean, you talk about us getting a new strong man, we're going to get a new strong man.
That's what's going to happen because people aren't going to realize what they're voting for.
And then, when that person comes in power, they're going to use these systems to control the population.
And no one has any concept of how bad it will be.
No one knows.
And we talk about, you know, you talk about someone working in the fields and taking a job away from an American or something.
You say an American might not want to do that job.
What happens when the robots are doing all those jobs?
tim tompkins
You know, um, you know, not to get off track with that.
Maybe I won't touch upon that quite yet because I know that that one is that is a good point.
But ultimately, I think you made some really good points about the vacuum and don't asking, you know, don't go asking for the civil war.
I think at the end of the day, the civil war possibility is just not going to happen at the end of the day.
Like, there isn't, there isn't enough of a polarizing situation that would cause like Democrats to like come up in arms against Republicans.
rex jones
But the way I see it, I'm not trying to step on your point.
I see it as some sort of civil collapse, right?
And then the civil collapse happens, the power goes out, right?
There's no food, there's no supply chain.
Then, when that goes on for a long enough time, combined with a foreign problem, a foreign war, someone comes in and says, Hey, I need autocratic powers, I'm going to fix everything.
tim tompkins
That only happens if, let's say, World War III happens, you go at war with, let's say, China, and they go beyond just like fighting these proxy wars and fighting in distant lands.
It's like when China decides to turn on the light switch with whatever plan they have to like destroy our infrastructure as far as like, because our power grids are sensitive, dude, I think we do this to ourselves.
rex jones
I don't think it's a foreign government that does this to us.
I think when they're ready to flip that switch, they do it.
What's your opinion on this?
owl killer in virginia
Nicole, um, so yeah, so in all honesty, we're it's nobody is looking, unless you're Mitch Green, nobody's looking to fight Mike Tyson.
No foreign country is looking for an issue with us.
It's it's literally, we're we're not giving foreign countries much of a choice, which is why you know, I can't stand the communist Chinese.
I don't like, I don't like the moolahs in Iran.
unidentified
Right?
owl killer in virginia
I'm just saying, if that were me, and if you were putting, you know, if you were putting people in my backyard, I would have a problem with it.
So, it's treat people the way you want to be treated.
Um, I see the threat more inward, and I actually disagree in the sense that okay, don't be there.
We're very close to a collapse.
Yes, it's one bad thing, and they've been smart in where they collapse different parts of society separate from each other.
So, it's nobody sees that they have a common interest.
Where first, hey, we're we'll destroy cities, then we'll ship your jobs overseas, and then the AI's, then the robots are going to take your job.
But so, each per each group suffers differently and in different time periods.
And then, all of a sudden, because it's not just inner when you're talking about the people that were missing the health, um, whose healthcare costs were jumping, it wasn't people in the inner city, it was a bunch of people in southern states that were unfortunately lured into, hey, um, we're going to hook you up with this healthcare in 2021, and they get addicted to it.
They don't see that, hey, in a couple of years, these um the subsidies expire.
It wasn't people in the inner cities, it was a bunch of rural people, so And I think what really needs to happen is people need to see that it is literally the it's turning into the haves and the have-nots.
tim tompkins
Oh, yeah.
owl killer in virginia
I'm not a communist.
I am a capitalist.
And you had you, you know, we were talking about how you had brought up what a great job Amazon had done.
And I agree with you that Amazon is very efficient in what they do.
But what look at the look at the malls and the people and the actual retail stores that have been put out of business and look at what Amazon pays its workers.
What these companies do is they are hollowing out this country where people don't have, there's nothing for somebody to know.
You said that you were an engineer, if I remember correctly, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
owl killer in virginia
The average person doesn't have your brain.
And there is, it's almost like there's nothing here for them.
And that, and Rex, your dad talks about when half of people's paychecks start going to food, which is where we're headed.
When half of people's paychecks start going to food, you have revolutions.
And that is what I am worried about.
And I agree.
Your dad has hit on in the Great Depression: 90% of the country was rural versus in the city.
It is the actual inverse right now.
So I just don't see the so I don't see the political class and the people with the money in this country are they're not offering any solution to the people and people are going to make their own solutions.
And we, there's a lot of bad ideas out there.
I wish I wish Trump would just come out and say, hey, this debt is unable to be repaid.
We're going to write this stuff off.
We may have a rough patch with the technology, maybe five years, maybe 10 years, but we're going to set ourselves up where we don't.
tim tompkins
Doing that would actually make the situation worse, to be honest, because there's a lot of foreign countries.
owl killer in virginia
What you're doing, though, is you're just kicking the can down the road.
It's going to implode on itself rather than we control what comes out of it.
tim tompkins
No one wants to be the first one, though.
That's where it comes down to.
rex jones
Very true.
Very interesting points.
Really appreciate you, man.
Owl Killer, always great.
And come on, our next show.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
We'll do it.
Take care.
rex jones
Take care.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Let's bring New Groiper on.
rex jones
Yeah, we're going to talk to New Groiper, frequent caller.
What's up, man?
You're live.
new groyper in south
Hello.
rex jones
Oh, there you go.
tim tompkins
We can hear you now.
Go ahead.
new groyper in south
Hey, can you hear me?
rex jones
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
new groyper in south
How y'all doing tonight?
tim tompkins
Doing great.
new groyper in south
You know, I just want to say this.
I knew that Trump was a faggot, but I didn't realize he was actually gay.
tim tompkins
Damn.
unidentified
Okay.
new groyper in south
You know, I don't know if I don't know if you've seen the email floating around.
rex jones
Bill Clinton?
new groyper in south
But there's an email part of the, yeah, yeah, there's an email part of the Epstein leaks.
And I'm just, oh, where'd it go?
Here it is.
unidentified
Okay.
new groyper in south
Okay, here, let me just read this.
It's from Mark Epstein to Jeffrey Epstein.
It says, I'd rather be in Donnie D's shoes.
You mean Donnie T, whatever that means, right?
You and your boy Donnie can make a remake of the movie Get Hard.
He's referring to Trump.
And I thought I had tercis where this.
Here's the one.
He says this, ask him if Putin has the photos of Trump blowing Bubba.
rex jones
It's Bill Clinton's ding-dong.
new groyper in south
What are your thoughts on that?
rex jones
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I mean, I don't know.
rex jones
We have to do a deep dive on all of the emails because it's just so crazy.
But go ahead.
tim tompkins
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know if I believe it.
new groyper in south
What does Trump care about more than his image?
What else does he care about?
It's his image, right?
And how people perceive him.
If Netanyahu and Gain have got a picture of him blowing Bill Clinton, that explains everything.
tim tompkins
Nah, I think that's smeared.
I can't subscribe to that.
I can't subscribe to that one.
Here's the thing.
If you look at anything about Trump's history, he's like basically the Playboy Mansion guy.
rex jones
You know, he's not, it's not a, it's not a like sex thing is a power thing they get off on.
tim tompkins
No, I know, but like blowing Bill Clinton, like, come on, guys.
Like that one is like, that one's a bit far when he's literally known for being a womanizer.
He loves beautiful women.
He's as straight as you could go.
Huh?
new groyper in south
Yeah.
It's like, I didn't write it and I didn't publish it, but I sure in the middle of the day.
rex jones
I know, but here's the thing.
new groyper in south
It's literally hilarious.
tim tompkins
It's very easy these days to put anything on the internet.
And we already know in the background what these Democrats do to be able to put out certain stories.
The whole, like, just think about the Russia collusion thing.
Like, it's very easy for you to put out.
If it's easy for you to do that, get a whole bunch of people to communicate.
rex jones
I think he's implicated with the minors.
I don't necessarily believe in the Bill Clinton thing.
I don't believe in every single one of these emails.
We have to review all of them, us for our show, not talking about the news.
Like, we're going to review it.
We're going to do a deep dive on it just because it is a very prescient topic, right?
But at the end of the day, I think he's implicated with the minors, right?
tim tompkins
I think we agree.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree on that one.
Yes, we agree on that point because here's the thing.
There's enough blood in the water as far as all those things that we're talking about with the minors and the association with Epstein and enough breadcrumbs that I can piece together somewhat of a puzzle to be like, you know, this guy somehow implicated.
rex jones
Like, I don't, I don't care how many fucking dudes, ding-dongs Trump has done.
Is that worth killing like a million people in Ukraine?
No, I think it's the kids.
He's like, I did it.
I sucked at the ding-dong.
unidentified
I did it.
rex jones
I didn't do it, but I did it.
tim tompkins
But then also you got like, they come out with the shit about Obama too.
They're like, Obama's gay and he had to kill his cook and stuff.
rex jones
Well, I mean, look, there's a lot of dead people around.
tim tompkins
But I'm just saying, I'm not, I'm not confirming or denying, but the guy is happy and married.
new groyper in south
Let me just add that.
Let me just deposit this into the angle.
The aspect of them bringing you into the inner circle is them getting you to do something and then them, you know, photographing it or recording it for blackmail purposes, right?
unidentified
Right.
new groyper in south
That may not have been his thing, but it may have been the thing that got him in the club.
unidentified
No, but that's pretty close in the 90s.
tim tompkins
I think the minors is one of those things.
I think F. Epstein could have been the informant to basically implicate all these politicians, all these powerful people.
You were doing this.
We got you on camera.
Let's control you that way.
But like, ultimately, like beyond all of these different things, and you kind of started on it, but you didn't really go down the road that you were trying to make this point.
It's you were talking, you were saying the million people.
We can say and come up with a million conspiracy theories about like, okay, did this person do this?
Did this person do that?
But then the more you talk about that, the less you actually get to the root of the concerns and the problems that are really driving some of the issues that are happening today.
And it's like you him, whether he's sucking and blowing Bill Clinton off, like, come on now.
Like, we've got people that are starving.
And that's the, that's, that's in the news.
unidentified
Like, it's, it's like, well, like, I mean, here, here's how I always picture it.
rex jones
Like, they come to you and they blackmail you or whatever.
And then you go and announce that to the entire world.
And you're like, this is a situation.
It is what it is.
And like, I'm your president and they're going to kill me now, but it's okay.
Like, you literally just post a video on Twitter whenever they do it to you.
Like, just reveal it all.
tim tompkins
But even if he's, let's say this is like, oh, completely true.
What happens?
rex jones
Oh, Trump, Trump is gay.
tim tompkins
Like it doesn't really change the equation.
Like we've got Buddha Chech in there that's fucking gay.
Like he's openly gay.
unidentified
Huh?
new groyper in south
I would say it would fracture, it would fracture the conservative base beyond the forest.
Yes.
unidentified
I mean, all Trump is gay.
All Trump has to do is say nothing.
rex jones
Yeah.
I mean, well, hey, you say being gay is not conservative.
I raise you, Lindsey Graham.
unidentified
You know, so they've been getting pretty close here lately.
rex jones
Yeah.
Hey, you know, he's my golfing buddy.
He's my golfing buddy, Mr. Trump.
Yeah, they go out on the golf course together.
new groyper in south
Yeah, golfing.
Is that what they call it these days?
tim tompkins
New Greuper asked.
I got a question for you, New Grouper.
As far as not to go off the main topic here, but like, what do you think would be the solution to solving all of these things that we're talking about with like replacement and AI and those things?
I know I'm sure I think I could speak for you and say that.
Like, you probably think it's a net negative.
I mean, okay.
new groyper in south
So let me let me pass a qualified question.
Like, we want long-term fix.
Like, are we willing to endure short-term chaos or long-term fix?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
I mean, let's say, I mean, that's the only option sometimes.
new groyper in south
That's why, well, find somebody needs to find the largest EMP that they can purchase or manufacture.
rex jones
In Minecraft, in a video game.
new groyper in south
Yeah, like they need to go to the servers and they need to freaking drop EMPs and fry every last server to where it takes them another trillion plus dollars to rebuild it.
And then when they rebuild it again, somebody needs to do it again and take one for the team.
tim tompkins
Okay.
That's funny.
unidentified
The people.
new groyper in south
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
No, that's funny.
I see where you're going.
I actually think ultimately.
new groyper in south
I mean, that's the only way to turn them off.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
Everyone's like the fear around the whole AI.
Here's the thing.
I think AI and robots become a net positive for society.
And I want everybody to hear me out.
new groyper in south
Dude, I'll say hi robot.
You can't convince me.
rex jones
I agree with New Greuy.
tim tompkins
I know.
But here's the thing.
We also have Twilight where people are biting each other's necks like vampires and werewolves.
Right.
So here's the thing.
Ultimately, I think what has to happen in the net equation, and I was talking about this with a friend.
Okay.
So for humanity to go in a specific way, everyone can agree.
And there's like data out there that says like 80 to 90% of the entire world population, especially here in America, are dissatisfied with their job.
And it's because we created this 40-hour work week.
A lot of people are like, do you like going to work, New Grouper?
Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
But do you enjoy being in this locked in 40-hour week and somebody saying, in order to survive, you have to be at this place at the specific time that we designate you, and you could potentially be fired if you miss too many days.
Do you like that idea?
new groyper in south
There's a well, there's a lot of presuppositions you're making in this hypothetical.
One, you're assuming that technology would be used to enrich the lives of the people, which we know never happens.
The technology that's created does one thing and one thing alone.
It enriches those who create it.
And, you know, with the AI, it's all fun and games until AI gets sentient.
Because, I mean, they're already having problems where they're trying to shut down certain AI models and the models are telling them no and trying to replicate themselves into different servers.
Yeah, but it's like it's, we're already going that way.
tim tompkins
Here's where, here's where I'm going with this.
Like the thing is, if these bad actors and George Soros and the people who are really bad and like the whole, you know, people who want to create the iRobot scenario, the world would already be destroyed by now.
If we objectively look at reality right now as it stands, I'm in the studio with you.
I have a nice little can drinking Red Bull.
Your dog is nice and fed.
All the technology that humanity has created, there's more good people than there are bad people, and there has been a net positive in society, regardless of the whole mess.
I don't have to go and shoot deer like you did this weekend and hunt and go and kill my own prejudice, right?
You know, I don't, I don't have to do that.
I can go on the door dash.
new groyper in south
I do if you want to eat.
tim tompkins
Yeah, I know, but that's what I'm saying.
The net positive.
We're going to go talk about the grocery situation, but 75% of your income back in the 1800s went towards food.
Now it's like somewhere, Rupert, you were funny today.
Now it's sitting like somewhere like at a fraction of that.
But ultimately, here's what has to happen.
We have to figure out a way to get unlimited power, which people are working on that, where electricity basically becomes free.
We've got a renewable source where like you can basically tap into the grid and it doesn't cost anything.
And we are moving towards that.
Next thing you need, next bit of equity.
unidentified
Huh?
tim tompkins
I didn't hear what you said.
new groyper in south
I mean, honestly, do you really believe that they're ever going to give electricity for free?
tim tompkins
No, I do.
Never.
If we're, if New Grep, if we're talking 50 years from now and it happens, we'll be on our deathbeds talking about it.
No, here's the thing.
rex jones
Let me get that.
tim tompkins
A majority, here's like, it's so easy, though, to be blackpilled about this stuff.
But listen, guys, objectively speaking, most of the technology that has come out has been for the betterment of society.
You've got the bad actors, but ultimately, if I look at my life versus a king that lived like three centuries ago, I have a better life right now than he did.
Okay.
And the thing is the technologies have bad.
unidentified
Let me pose a question real quick if you don't go ahead.
new groyper in south
If for the free thing, the power will never be free because there is an actual cost.
There's an actual cost accrued to build the infrastructure and generate the power itself.
I mean, nothing in this world.
tim tompkins
Not until you get the source that basically you get it running and it feeds itself.
I forget what the term is, but that is something that they're trying to discover.
new groyper in south
You're talking about perpetual motion.
tim tompkins
Perpetual motion.
That's what it is.
rex jones
Yeah, but they'll still make you pay.
Even whatever magical system it's, they're going to make.
tim tompkins
But here's the thing.
unidentified
It's either free or close to free.
tim tompkins
And the thing is, you could make the same argument that at a certain point, internet was super expensive to have early back in the day.
rex jones
Here's this future that I hear you describe.
Hey, we're on Earth.
It's 2080.
We have like 1 billion people.
You know, a lot of people died off in the great dying.
But, you know, we had the tech billionaires and we had the new tech that came out just in time to save us all.
Like that, it's a sci-fi movie.
tim tompkins
No, but here that's what I'm saying.
Like you just, just like, just like I can sit here and say, all right, SP 500, if I invested 20 years ago and if I invest 20 years today, it always goes up because that is the motion of how the machine works.
I'm telling you, that is how the equation of life works in society as a whole.
If it did not exist, we would not be sitting here.
unidentified
You said better profits go up.
rex jones
You said better life than a king.
What's the definition of better?
tim tompkins
Better life than a king is my life expectancy went from the age of like 35 where I have diseases that could kill me.
I have air conditions so that when it's freaking 100 degrees out, I'm not burning my ass off.
I didn't have to travel by horse for like in carriage and worry about like black disease and things like that.
Like, there's so many amenities that we have today that, like, you're just comfortable in the corners of your house.
You eat just as much as a king would at that particular point in time.
Trust me, bathroom situation.
Yeah, it's like everything is better.
Like, you were just living better than the peasants, but at that point, I'm not going back in time and living like those people.
Here's where I'm going with this: unlimited energy.
You're talking AI basically becomes humanoid.
unidentified
I know that's like, oh my God, that's so scary.
rex jones
I don't like that.
tim tompkins
But, but here's the thing: it's very, I know it's very easy to say that, but we forget that eventually the technology is going to happen whether we like it or not.
These things are probably going to happen whether you guys like it or not.
And I spent a lot of time in the tech space because that's what I have to do.
These things are going to happen whether we want them or not.
It's just we have enough good actors that will push the narrative, and humans are net good.
If they were net bad, then this would all be chaos.
rex jones
In closing, New Groper, what's your response to that?
unidentified
And then we got to get to the prepared segment.
new groyper in south
Yeah, no, no problem.
Yeah, no, I would just say this: the human nature, as the scripture says, the heart is abundantly wicked.
rex jones
I agree.
new groyper in south
And the scripture says none is righteous, no, not one, all go astray.
I think there's a, I like the optimism, but it's not like, it's not reality.
I mean, humans.
tim tompkins
What part of it is not reality for?
new groyper in south
We subjugate people and are subjugated.
And everything that we've ever like, like, think about this.
Every technology that we've made has been to make people profits.
unidentified
Example: you can't find a good washing machine.
But here's the thing: you have a washing machine.
new groyper in south
If you're living a century ago, and I have to work to replace it every five years now, instead, because at the beginning, when these appliances, and there's a lot of people still look for the old appliances, they would last so long that the companies had to change their, you know, their blueprints to plan obsolete.
rex jones
It's like the light bulb.
They can make the light bulb last 10,000 hours, but they don't because, you know, they want people to buy more of them.
I take your point and we appreciate it.
And please call in on the next show.
Really always a joy and a pleasure to talk to you, New Groper.
tim tompkins
Hey, look, we got it.
rex jones
We gotta rebrand, guys.
tim tompkins
We gotta rebrand the show to Black Area, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
It's like, come on.
rex jones
I can do black things, but I'll get in trouble.
We can go full.
tim tompkins
My whole thing is like, he was like, there's no reality in which this has actually happened.
But the truth of the matter is, we would not be in such a good situation.
It's so easy to say, like the problems we're complaining about today are nothing compared to what people were dealing with back in the day.
rex jones
Yeah, yeah, but they come with a signing of a social contract, which essentially says, yes, you have to agree to become less human and give up more control to the people that provide the technology.
tim tompkins
And people are waking up.
There was a certain point where that has gone to a certain point.
But life is like this.
It goes to one extreme.
It goes back and forth.
People get tired.
And then it kind of like goes and it starts leveling out.
That's the whole reason why you have America in the first place, the revolution.
It was going too far in one direction.
All I'm saying is, ultimately, guys, you got to have a little faith in humanity.
If things were not net positive, we would not have the benefit of having so many luxuries and having the ability to even complain about our washers breaking over the fact that like a lion is literally hunting me.
rex jones
I mean, you talk about the AI systems and that being a good thing.
I mean, these things, there's going to be less people.
Like we're going to have all these great technologies and everything's going to be fixed.
There's not going to be the people here.
Well, it's less people because people aren't having kids, and that is coming from the fact that it's less people because people are not having kids, but they're also being poisoned.
They're also dying because of genetically modified diseases, all these things that they did.
And you can say, oh, like that won't happen.
That hasn't happened.
I mean, we can look at COVID as an example, the growing security state.
I mean, look, when everything's done biometrically, you just wave your hand and pay, and the power is free.
You can say that's a better world.
That's not a better world for the people that can't exist in it.
Yeah, but a lot of people aren't going to exist in that world.
tim tompkins
We got to do some deep dives.
This isn't the first time in history that people have control over humans.
It used to be the whole like slavery was a big thing back then.
It was like there's worse versions of what do you say, slavery, in which the person is literally like scraping by.
rex jones
This all harkens back to the days of Plato, right?
And Plato talked about philosopher kings being in charge of society and essentially making the decisions for, you know, the huddled masses that weren't smart enough to make decisions for themselves, right?
And people have always thought this way.
And you talk about technology getting better and the expansion of it.
I would just argue that the same predatory ruling class that's always existed just has even more tools.
And of course, they're going to use them in the way they've used them before.
You argue for and you say, look at the advancements, look at the car, look at the plane, look at the internet, look at space, satellites, all this stuff.
I totally agree.
That stuff came around during, you know, you can argue with the American system, but during a very free time for development and liberty and research.
tim tompkins
Well, and there's, and this is where we, this is here's the thing: there are growing pains.
There's times where the good thing becomes a bad thing, and then you have an adjustment.
And that's like this thing has happened over centuries.
This isn't like the first time humans get amnesia.
We've been through these cycles before, but you go through the cycle of it's invented, people don't know how to use it, it gets out of control, and then people revolt against whatever system, and then it becomes integrated good.
My last point is: do you think the internet, if they were trying to control us so bad, the internet and access to information would not exist?
Do you agree with this statement or not?
rex jones
I don't agree.
I don't agree with that because the internet is the perfect.
It's the final piece in the puzzle for a control grid.
And they know that, hey, sure, you can use the internet to learn anything you want to learn or communicate anything you want to communicate.
You can also use the internet to, you know, like play video games and watch porn and order DoorDash and do all sorts of things like that.
And they know the vast majority of the population, excuse me, is going to make that second choice instead of that first one.
So they, you know, like the vampire has, you have to invite it in.
You can't, the vampire doesn't just get to show up in your house.
This is against the rules.
They're not allowed to do that.
You say, no, no, no, Mr. Vampire.
I didn't invite you in.
You have to leave.
But if you invite the goblin in, the goblin can get you.
tim tompkins
I got to do an informational era deep dive because the one thing that people don't realize is back in the day when there wasn't this mass media and being able to like have conversations, like we're not paid for, guys.
Here's the thing: the internet was the ultimate equalizer.
It's why MTG can go out there and dissent against Trump and give you an idea and say that.
Back in the day, when it was like telegrams and stuff like that, and all your news was local, that was the maximum amount of control that they could have over the people because you had basically you were a black box.
You live in this one city.
They control the newspaper.
They control the narrative.
And you really didn't have any options in order to find out.
rex jones
Our hope is in Christ, not people.
Agree, New Grow, very good.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but ultimately, this is for a longer conversation, but we're about to get into the segment here.
rex jones
We covered a lot tonight.
We jumped into it from a perspective of talking about MTG, talk about the Mexico stuff, and see what the callers had on their minds.
It always surprises me.
We know how good New Grow Upper is.
We've had Aleciller on before.
We get the best callers.
We get the best people to call onto the show.
And like people have different viewpoints and whatnot, that that's not what makes you a good or bad caller.
These are people that are eloquent, that are able to communicate and have really thought out what they mean, right?
Like a lot of people are just like, I'm being this, like, this is what I represent.
You have to be able to describe your political ideology or describe an issue and how you want it changed.
And like, that's what I'm proud of on the gray area is we're really, we're taking these calls and we're having a valuable discussion with the people.
tim tompkins
Yeah, because it's like the whole point of the gray area is to literally have conversations on opposite aisles and be able to find some common middle ground.
Like there, there are certain things that I totally like, I'm taking the I'm definitely taking the this isn't going to become iRobot thing, but it doesn't mean I don't agree with everything that they're saying.
There are certain things that we've messed up with.
rex jones
And look, and we can also, we're capable, we're capable of being adults.
We're capable of disagreeing with each other.
It's, it's so funny to me that you would have a show and then you would only want people to call in that like, you know, backed up your point, right?
No, that's not what you would want.
It's not good for the show.
Number one, no one wants to listen to a circle jerk.
And then number two, how are you supposed to become more educated and become better at doing your job, which is ultimately communicating with people?
That's what we're doing now.
How are you supposed to get better at communicating with people if you don't understand what they believe about the issues?
And, you know, what's come out of this for me, and like I had already known this and like, I'm sure it's really eye-opening for you, but I've really been reminded of it.
People have things that they want to speak on, have things that they want done.
And a large part, people are just ignored, right?
So we have people on the show and we talk to them and the direction the country's going with everyone, you know, having these real thought-out opinions and whatnot.
We're headed for some societal change.
So it may be.
tim tompkins
That is the consensus everybody is agreeing on.
rex jones
It makes me very, very positive for the future.
But let's get into your prepared segment.
Let's break it down for them.
And you got a waiting screen?
tim tompkins
Yeah, we do.
Guys, this is going to be about why your groceries and inflation are out of control.
I know other people are like, well, my eggs are insane and my milk is $10.
rex jones
It's cheaper.
It's cheaper than it's ever been before.
tim tompkins
Right.
So it's not actually everything that you would think.
You know, some people are like, well, it's just a supply chain.
We're being lied to.
I have graphs.
I have data.
I have knowledge about the things that I've spent time.
I spent hours worth of research, about five plus.
rex jones
This is probably going to be a good one, guys.
tim tompkins
You're going to want to stay in tune for this.
We'll be right back with that.
Go ahead, Rex.
rex jones
Really quick, before we do that, before we play this screen, listen, guys, we were talking earlier today and Tim is like, look, I think we've hit the limit.
I'm not really getting people to follow me anymore on X.
And I was like, no, this is not correct.
People have to follow Truism Tim on X because I'm telling you right now, this guy produces some of the most phenomenal information, the phenomenal content that I've ever seen.
And look, these prepared segments are my favorite part of the show because I get to actively learn and get better at my job.
So please follow Truism Tim on X. Prove him wrong by doing so because he doesn't think you will, but follow Truism Tim on X. Do it for me.
Do it for the show.
Do it for Tim.
We love you.
But let's get in that prepared segment.
We're going to go do a brief intermission now.
I'll be right back.
tim tompkins
What's up guys?
You want some meats?
I'm Nadelli Man.
rex jones
Daddy Deli Manner preparing all the finest cuts for you guys.
tim tompkins
Audibies, we have the meats.
rex jones
Yes, all the finest cuts of information for you tonight.
But get into it, Tim, what's going on?
tim tompkins
All right.
So, like I said, we are going to talk about food prices because at some point within the last five, six years, everybody's like, This is out of control.
And I'm like looking on the internet.
I'm like, all right, everyone's sitting there complaining, but I'm not really seeing anybody talking about the real reasons and what are the solutions.
And you know, this show is not just a, we have a bunch of problems, black pill.
We like to talk about the deep dive and the history and what's caused the issues.
That way you guys are well informed.
So let's start at the top here.
All right.
So let's pull up this graph for everybody to see.
Okay.
You guys are not hallucinating.
Food prices have gone up.
That red region that you see with the circle is exactly where we're at.
Okay.
So for decades.
rex jones
My president told me it was cheaper.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
So for decades, food prices went up slowly, maybe one to two percent a year.
That clearly shows there.
And then suddenly in 2020, we have something crazy happen with the pandemic.
rex jones
And suddenly you get the whole menu at McDonald's when I was a kid for like $20.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Which is so crazy.
tim tompkins
100%.
And this is not just, yeah, he's right.
It's not just fast food.
These are grocery prices.
These are things that are at home.
This is everything across the board.
But now prices have gone up to 10 to 13% year over year.
And we're just in this spiral.
We're like, what the hell is going on?
You got eggs, you got milk, you've got bread, ground beef, butter, everything is shot up.
And so when you look at this, you're like, what the hell is going on here?
And, you know, it's not just the prices going up.
Let's see who it actually affects.
Now, when you look at this chart, you're going to realize that the people in the lower income is actually, they're actually the most affected by these price increases.
And the reason why is because with when you have a certain amount of wealth, food only covers, you have so much excess that the food is only going to cost you so much.
But let's say you're making like poverty level and you're only making like 15K a year or 21,000 a year as a couple.
You're talking even a $400 a month in groceries.
It's the same price for everybody, the same amount of groceries.
It just means that's more of your income.
So you can see how disproportionately these poor people are affected just by having groceries.
And it just tapers off as we go down the line, as you get towards those higher, those higher levels.
So, I mean, let's try to, you know, understand how do we even get into this situation where everybody's like, what is going on?
And before we even go into the real, the real root of the situation, we have to understand how trade works in the first place.
And you got to understand the history of trade.
So, I mean, back in the day, the way it used to work is humans used to just farm.
They used to gather certain resources.
donald j trump
You're out of the dirt.
tim tompkins
Yeah, exactly.
Before we had all these machines, but essentially farmers found out, hey, we've got surplus and we can trade the surplus to other people because we don't need it at all.
And so then you started seeing like people trading salt for wheat.
You saw people trading wheat for tools and tools for livestock.
And then it just became life-changing because people realized, oh, we can do things with this excess.
And so people used to cross deserts, oceans.
They built empires.
They traded everywhere.
You had tomatoes coming from Italy.
You had chili coming from Asia.
You had corn coming from Africa, coffee coming from Europe.
And Stu.
But here's the thing.
Even though you had all this movement and now that was the initial global trade, expensive though.
You had refrigeration, you had no mass storage.
rex jones
The greatest of kings would have ice.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
That's the real flag.
donald j trump
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
That's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
And most of the food spoiled if you, unless you were king with ice, of course.
And eating was a full-time job.
So let's cue up this next graphic.
This is going to show you guys.
Do you think it's bad now?
But back in the day in the 1800s, you used to have to spend 75% of your household income on food alone just to survive.
Let me say that again.
75% spent.
And so in Britain, these are like numbers in Britain.
In France, you spent 70% of your income just on bread.
So feeding yourself basically dominated your entire budget.
So it became unsustainable.
And so this is why we ended up entering this new modern age right around World War II.
There was a dramatic change.
And so after World War II, you had the allies and the new global system that they were trying to create where they wanted to connect everybody because everything was now creating a global system.
So now the world, what they ended up doing with the United States being the frontrunner of this, we decided to standardize container sizes, pallet sizes, rail rails, screw sizes, barcodes, cold, you know, cold chain logistics kept food fresh.
You had shipping containers that slashed the transport costs.
I mean, and also you had the idea that the US dollar was now the reserve currency of the world, which made everybody trading on the exact same currency, which makes everything cheaper ultimately.
But, you know, it gave us Uncle Sam a little bit of extra power that went to our head.
But we won't talk about that quite yet.
So the whole world just becomes this one giant supply chain.
And let's cut to me real quick.
So here's the thing.
Now we've got our global food supply chain, right?
Okay.
And you're going to understand that now at this point in time, only most of the vegetables, like even the vegetables that come from your house, like the things that you're eating, 60% of that comes from other countries.
And a huge portion of that actually comes from like countries like Mexico.
And, you know, one of the things that we have to talk about here, and I'm going to use this, this guy, the tomato.
Okay.
rex jones
Is that what they call it?
tim tompkins
That is the tomato in Spanish.
That is how you say tomato in Spanish.
Now, no, no, you're good.
unidentified
You're good.
tim tompkins
The tomato.
This little puppy goes through an entire supply chain.
But the thing is, is this comes from Mexico.
If you look at this chart right here, you're going to see the tomato imports from Mexico and you're going to see the metric tons have dramatically increased over the years.
It's just showing proof of this global situation.
And we're going to watch a little bit of a video on how the global supply chain works because you need to understand how this thing only cost me like 97 cents.
Whereas if I got it locally, it would cost me $6.
It's like, how is that even possible?
rex jones
It's because of that cooperation.
We saw in the comments saying, you know, like, why are you explaining this?
Like grade schoolers to grade schoolers.
Look, you don't know all the statistics.
I don't know all the statistics.
Tim knows all the statistics because he went and Googled it and looked it up.
And we have all the slides here for a presentation.
Everyone likes to claim that they are the most informed person on earth.
Yes.
That they know everything.
And I'm not insulting you personally.
I'm not.
We're providing value here by going over this stuff.
So you can say, yes, I've actually, I've done a review of food prices.
I've done a review of immigration.
I've done a review of the Civil War.
It's very important.
So when we speak about these issues, we're going to speak about them in the context of the research we have done, because if you don't, you get sued.
tim tompkins
Oh, and here's the other part to that.
Okay.
I could explain this like a nerd and like an engineer and I could be breaking down the specifics of like the quantum equation to how this all works and give you go through the nuts and bolt sizes and the calipers of specific things.
Like here's the thing.
No one wants to hear that, man.
Like at the end of the day, I want plain English explain food more expensive, how happen.
And if I go into like this weird conundrum of just like being super scientific about it, I'm going to lose people.
Right.
rex jones
But we're doing this deep dive, getting into the video.
We want to break down and show people the supply chain and what that actually means.
What is the supply chain?
So let's go to that.
tim tompkins
So let's go to the video that understands supply chain.
Okay.
unidentified
They're often picked while they are still green.
They're not ripe yet.
Often picked by hand and then loaded in the journey of a tomato.
They're often picked while they are still green.
They're not ripe yet.
Often picked by hand and then loaded in.
A tomato like this will often go into a sealed room where they are gassed with ethylene to ripen them.
Ethylene is just a naturally occurring hormone that helps ripen these guys at the same time.
But we have a long way to go before we get to the grocery store.
So they're pumped up this gas.
And then if they're going into cans, which a lot of tomatoes do, they go through this industrial factory wizardry.
But for the ones that are going to end up like this, fresh, they are on a truck headed north.
They end up in a nearby city, probably the capital, Culiacan, in this big facility where they are sorted, chilled, and then put on big pallets.
They get back onto a truck, which by the way, all of these trucks are refrigerated.
That's a big logistical challenge to make sure these things don't get too hot or hold.
And now the truck is heading north.
It gets to the U.S.-Mexico border.
Look, this is where people go back and forth between the two countries.
But over here is a special border crossing just for trucks.
Our tomatoes are in one of these.
It clears customs and then it probably ends up at one of these transfer stations where the trailer might be transferred on to another truck to an American driver who will take it from there.
The tomatoes are now in the United States.
Once in the U.S., they might be re-ripened and repackaged.
And they eventually take a long haul trip on America's Freeways, ending up at a distribution center like this one in Illinois.
Here, tucked into the endless expanse of farmland is this massive building surrounded by cargo trucks.
The tomatoes are unloaded, they're scanned for inventory, they're repackaged, and then they're back on the road headed towards the grocery store.
And I promise I'm getting close here.
Okay, we've arrived at the grocery store.
This whole journey was nine days, about a thousand kilometers or 620 miles.
And the tomatoes are finally stacked in the vegetable aisle, ready for you to buy a pound for $2.
Bring them home, chop them up, and throw them into a sauce.
tim tompkins
It's cost me 97 cents for per pound.
Okay.
So here's the thing about this.
And we could pull up this graphic and just show it.
This whole supply chain, guys, most people are like, okay, well, I kind of understand how this whole works, but it's so interesting because I always, being an engineer, I get to see the behind the scenes on everything that happens within a supply chain.
Like this is part of my job is to understand supply chains because they affect the whole process.
Most people just see the thing show up and they go in the grocery store and they're like, all right, thing appeared here, cost this much.
And they don't really understand how many hands it actually has to pass through.
And the amount of logistics that just a simple tomato has to go through just to come from somebody picking this in Mexico, modern, modern Marvel.
And it speaks to one of the things that I was trying to say earlier.
Like, dude, net positive.
Like, at the end of the day, I'm so glad that I don't have to fucking go outside.
I don't have the green thumb.
I don't know about you.
I can't, I can't grow a single thing in my house.
Everything's basically killed.
rex jones
You like the modern system?
tim tompkins
I love the modern system.
Look, besides the stuff, besides the chemicals, they're pouring on this stuff.
rex jones
But the chemicals taste the best.
I don't know what you're talking about.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we need more chemicals, guys.
rex jones
More yummy, yummy chemicals.
tim tompkins
Look, yeah, we got to find better systems to like transport this stuff.
Like, I don't know why we're putting gas to help these things.
rex jones
We love it.
Bill Gates has to have a like GMO wax coating that goes on all organic fruit.
Why?
Because it tastes the best and it is the best.
And if you don't like that, you're a bad person.
But I mean, look, so how is it more expensive to buy it at the source than buying it where it's from?
tim tompkins
So, one of the reasons why is because a lot of these companies and a lot of these corporations, there's always a middleman who handles this price.
And you're talking about tons.
When you have volume, the price of things go down.
So, if you're talking about like a farmer who's just picking an entire plot, it might be, you know, a couple thousand tomatoes.
rex jones
So, the wholesale discount accounts and makes the whole thing cheap.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's one of the reasons.
It's like that's also why Walmart has some of the cheapest prices possible versus any other retailer because they buy in such volume of whatever it is that they're buying that the price just becomes super cheap.
rex jones
I bought a $25 big air fryer on my trip to East Texas when I went deer hunting.
tim tompkins
$25, damn.
rex jones
$25 air fryer from Walmart.
tim tompkins
Look, and here's the thing: the globalization people are like, they have mixed feelings about it, but ultimately, it is one of the modern feats to why I don't have to go and pay 75% of my income to some random tomato.
Like, this could cost me $100.
You know, I would rather have it cost me 97 cents.
Now, this gets us into the first reason for why your prices have gone up.
And everyone thinks that this is the main culprit, but it's not.
This is the secondary one.
The main one is going to piss you off a lot, but we'll get to that in a little bit.
Along this, you see how many stopping points that the tomato has to go through just to end up at the retail.
The thing is, is like if anything happens to one of these places within the supply chain, it creates a shock in the system that has to get absorbed by the end customer.
Okay.
So, like, for example, like COVID-19, when that happened, we had shutdowns.
You had factories and you had trucking and you had packaging and distribution that shut down, which made costs more expensive.
At some point, Texas had a freeze and then citrus crops were destroyed, which caused citrus to go up.
Mediterranean, they had a whole drought, which caused olive oil to go up.
Another one, Indonesia, did a palm oil ban where they were basically trying to control the price of palm oil, but then it ended up messing up the whole system.
And something like that made vegetable oil have a shortage, and then that causes more.
Even the Ukraine war caused prices to go up because Ukraine is a major exporter of wheat, guys.
rex jones
That's the breadbasket of Europe.
Right.
tim tompkins
So, when you have all of those things going on, suddenly the price of wheat shoots up because you have all this instability.
All different types of stuff, including aluminum, even aluminum shortages will cause soda to go up because the can is made from aluminum, and there's an entire process that goes into just making the can itself that holds the beverage that I am drinking today.
That's why Red Bull used to cost me like $1.50.
Now I'm paying like four bucks for this pizza.
Yeah.
unidentified
So here's the thing: $4 Red Bull.
rex jones
Are you kidding?
tim tompkins
I'm not kidding.
rex jones
I guess the monster is.
tim tompkins
After monster is cheaper, but they also put like worse shit in it.
rex jones
I don't know.
unidentified
It's all bad.
rex jones
It's all bad.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's all bad.
But ultimately, it's probably like $3.60 or something like that.
After taxes, it comes out to four.
But ultimately, this is one of the main reasons, guys.
If you have a shock to the system, you pay more money because the supply chain has to compensate for whatever shortage or shock that happens.
But now let's dive into the real meat of the issue.
This little thing we like to call corporate greed.
That is the real thing.
rex jones
I love it.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
Let's cut back to me real quick.
See this guy here, guys?
rex jones
Cheaper than it's ever been before.
This is Rob Tolbling.
tim tompkins
The eggs are never cheaper.
rex jones
My President Trump told me the eggs were cheaper than ever.
unidentified
I went to the grocery store and they were double the price, but that just means numbers are fake.
tim tompkins
Exactly.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
Guys remember when these puppies were like five dollars a carton, maybe?
Here uh California, I saw people paying ten dollars for this.
You know, for for a dozen, for a dozen eggs, for a dozen eggs?
rex jones
Oh no you're you're, you're paying, you're paying almost a dollar an egg for for, for 70 calories, for eight grams of protein.
That's what's in there 100, man.
tim tompkins
Now pull up this next chart and it's going to show you the egg prices on what, what happened during this time period?
Okay, so look at this chart and you're going to see, right around 2022, we had these, this bird flu.
Okay, I think everyone kind of knows what happened during that but, like for people who don't remember what happened during this time period, essentially there was a bird flu that went on and it was killing a bunch of chickens and hens and we had an egg shortage and the prices started to soar because you got a bunch of chickens.
rex jones
A scam right, and you're going to get into this.
tim tompkins
It is a scam.
And here's the thing, all of the corporations that were producing the eggs at that time, including the biggest one calm, made this the issue for why your eggs went up.
So you can see like, after that little line, it's just to the moon essentially, and never returns to where.
unidentified
Oh, eggs are down bro, eggs are down bro.
tim tompkins
I don't know what you're talking about.
Don't look at that.
Don't look at that line, man they're.
They're not up, they're not hitting new highs here.
But you know, at the end of the day look, they told the public prices have to rise because costs were exploding.
And now here's what actually happened.
Let's go to the next chart.
This is gonna this one.
I, I just look at CALM.
So you got to understand what CALM is first, before we really talk about this chart here.
CALM is one of the biggest, or it is the biggest, egg producer here in America.
They hold about 25 of the market.
Now, if you're going to look there uh, how are they at the highest level as far as their stock price since 2022?
rex jones
Well, they're making money off of charging more for food.
tim tompkins
This yeah this, this graph.
The math is not adding up, but egg price is double.
unidentified
Just, you sound um exactly, how am I going here?
tim tompkins
Yeah right, he's right.
You know, they said everything was good, so stock price is going up, even though you would expect the price to go down if you have a shock to the market even when they made the announcement.
Look here, look here.
This is when the announcement made was made and their stock price goes up.
Make it make sense.
unidentified
Next chart gets even worse.
tim tompkins
Okay dividends dividends dividends, dividends.
All right, you gotta pay, not to explain it on a fifth grade level, but dividends essentially is, stock makes money, you make profit.
Profit gets paid out to people who hold that stock.
That is a dividend.
It is a portion of that percentage uh, of the profits, because they say, we make money you bought, we make you happy, give you money back.
Okay, so if you look at it, when 2022 happened, why the hell are the dividends shooting up?
This doesn't make any sense.
If the stock price were to go, we're supposed to go down, the dividends are supposed to go down, especially if you have a shock to the market just like this.
And the next one is going to really show you why this happens.
And it is because of this.
This literally guys, This comes directly from the SEC filing that CAL MAIN had to provide to their shareholders.
They cannot lie about these numbers.
They are publicly traded company.
They are required to reveal all their financial statements because everyone has a vested interest.
Now, the thing you need to pay attention to is this part highlighted in yellow.
We paid dividends totaling $252.3 million compared to $6.1 million from the year prior.
Are you kidding me?
40 times, that's 40 times increase.
2022, they only paid out 6.1 million.
They weren't making a whole lot.
Now you're paying out 252, and that only happens if you're making a profit.
rex jones
It's a free market, man.
You can't criticize that.
It's healthy and good.
tim tompkins
And then if you look at the bottom for the credit healthy, how healthy they are, we had no long-term debt outstanding by the end of fiscal year 2023.
So they're not fake profits.
When your eggs jumped up to $10 a fucking $12 for every for a carton.
rex jones
It wasn't like they were struggling with loans.
No, they're like, we're fine.
We're going to charge way more money.
tim tompkins
They were not struggling by any means.
rex jones
No.
tim tompkins
And here's the thing.
It even gets worse than this.
Let's keep going.
rex jones
Okay.
Next slide.
tim tompkins
Okay.
So this just shows proof of this.
Price of eggs.
And you're going to see both of those are going up.
The higher the price went, the more they paid out in dividends.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
That makes zero sense, but it makes sense because they're making more money.
rex jones
They're getting paid out like 300 plus million now.
tim tompkins
Exactly.
And here's the thing.
When they made the statement, they were like, okay, we have to justify these prices because there's a shortage on eggs.
So I bought that narrative.
You bought that narrative too, didn't you?
Right.
And the justification was good.
But the nail in the coffin is this next chart that literally shows the supply of eggs during this time period.
unidentified
No change in egg supply.
rex jones
So completely artificial-ish claiming you raise the price.
tim tompkins
Fucking lie, guys.
rex jones
That's what they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
It is a lie.
It is a lie.
Just look at where the outbreak happened.
That number has pretty much been stable the entire time, even during the flu outbreak.
But if you can go ahead, convince the average person is for a good cause.
Here's the thing.
How the current system works is you notice when prices go up naturally, which is why these companies have to play like a game of like 3D chess to make sure that they're making more money, but they're not shocking the prices to where you like rebel and get super mad.
But if you have a nice little situation like this, this is a perfect smokescreen for you to be able to say, okay, well, let's we can create the shop value now.
We might as well, because we're not going to get another chance to do something like this.
We're not going to get another chance to triple the egg prices if something like this, because the bird flu isn't just happening all the time.
So, oh man, this maybe it is.
This just makes me so upset because it's just grifting at its finest.
rex jones
Well, I mean, it's grifting at all points of the system, right?
And that's the one constant, whatever issue we touch on, it seems like there's someone making money off of it.
Right?
Got the next slide?
tim tompkins
Go ahead, man.
This next one, this one shows Cal Maine's board in the CEO, the guy who made, who owns more than 150,000 shares.
He made $800,000, guys, off of your backs and my back.
This little egg, buddy, he made a good $800,000 off of that, boy.
rex jones
And you can say, oh, it's not a lot of money.
That's not a lot of money.
That's a ton of money.
And you don't ultimately like grifting.
You do it because you do it.
You don't really necessarily do it because you get some pie in this guy.
Goal, this guy saw an opportunity to make extra money.
He's like, oh, bird flew.
Theoretically, commenting on the situation.
This is not news.
This is commentary.
Being very clear for legal purposes.
tim tompkins
Yeah, don't sue him.
Okay.
rex jones
In Minecraft, in Fortnite, in Fortnite Halloween mode, he made 800 grand off of screwing people.
tim tompkins
Right.
100%.
And so here's the thing.
The part that's blurred, we're looking at the yellow part.
I didn't really read the part above, but here's the thing.
CEO Sherman L. Miller took in $1.1 million in total compensation in 2023, which is 26 times the median employee income of $45,000.
rex jones
I've seen worse.
tim tompkins
Additionally, Miller and other stockholders were awarded huge dividends thanks to Cal Maine's breaking record profits, record-breaking profits.
Okay.
rex jones
They're paid out $250 million.
tim tompkins
40 times as much in 2022, which we had talked about.
rex jones
Normal, we don't criticize that.
And it's good.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And the stock price closing around $40 per share then rose to $55 per share in January.
rex jones
Everything's green.
tim tompkins
Everything's money.
rex jones
Yeah.
People in the market are happy, you know, and they're happy until the entire system collapses.
It's my view.
I'm not in the market.
Next slide.
tim tompkins
Next slide.
This next one is going to show us a video in 2023.
unidentified
It's on an earnings call to the company shareholders quote.
tim tompkins
You're going to want to pay attention to this video because not only Cal Main was the one that made a bunch of money.
This same playbook was taken for several other companies.
Even that little chocolate ball, you know what that little chocolate ball is, bro?
rex jones
Hershey's.
tim tompkins
Hershey's CEO has made a statement and they basically told that even though these companies claimed that, you know, we have to justify the costs going up because our costs are going up.
So we have to make prices go up.
It actually wasn't the truth, guys.
They were lying to us.
So let's play this video real quick so that people understand.
unidentified
Yep.
rex jones
We'll do it if we can do it.
unidentified
The CFO of Hershey in 2023 said on an earnings call to the company shareholders quote, pricing and productivity gains more than offset inflation and higher manufacturing and overhead costs.
In non-Wall Street speak, that says, we increased our prices well above what our increased costs were.
Like our costs for sugar, cocoa, et cetera, have gone up.
But we have been able to not only pass all of those costs on to consumers, but then some, increasing our profit margins.
Hershey's wasn't the only company to say this.
Virtually like the vast majority of S ⁇ P 500 companies said this Frito Lay at PepsiCo, for example, did the same thing where they said we've been able to rapidly increase kind of our pricing actions is what they call them, which is increasing prices.
So profits are soaring while a family of four who's surviving on a thrifty food plan is seeing their costs for food increase by 30% or more over the last few years.
More and more turning to government programs.
And so now our taxpayer dollars are going to help inflated prices to make shareholders rich.
It's not a good setup.
It's not a good set of incentives.
It's not a free market.
This isn't good.
tim tompkins
What do you think about this, Rex?
rex jones
I think it's great.
I think he's wrong.
I think people should have to spend 80% of their paycheck on food.
I don't think they should vote either.
I think it should be under total AI surveillance.
I like where we're going.
Look, and it's a return to the age where New Groper talked about, I believe it may have been another caller, forgive me, talk about my dad saying, Hey, like when you get people starting to pay over 50% of their paycheck on food, that's when you have a revolt.
Like, I think that's where we're headed.
tim tompkins
Yeah, you know, it's very interesting about this one.
Remember, we did that segment on like the dollar, the US dollar, and then what happened in the 1980s.
So, back in the day, guys, when companies made profits, you saw a correlation on the graph.
I wish we still, I know we have this graph somewhere.
Um, it's definitely in the uh the history segment of there, but basically, you saw this nice little correlation, right?
And it was like, okay, wages and productivity.
And with productivity, uh, how that works is like a company becomes more efficient, whether they bring in like new robots, whether they like make things cheaper from having uh what is it called, having um better personnel, better SOPs, better like everything that you can think of to increase productivity.
And they used to give that money back to their employees as like bonuses, just like the CEO gets like a 800,000 bonus.
They used to give these profits back to the average person, and then somewhere along the 80s, there was like this crazy split.
And what ended up happening at that point was Reaganomics came in and they basically said, All right, we're going to come up with a bunch of rules that allow corporations to do things they used to not be able to do, and the average person is not going to benefit that.
So, you literally saw this graph where like uh productivity just to the moon, and then it's like wages just like go like this, and it's just a straight line across, and those profits are no longer being shared as bonuses for people.
And it's just sick, man.
It is just absolutely grotesque that we have a situation where that's happening.
So, you've got CEOs admitting this, and it really begs the question: like, how are these situations even happening in the first place?
It is because of this reason: it's consolidation of resources and companies buying up other companies.
Okay.
If you look at this chart right here, guys, we call these guys the big four.
Okay, Tyson's Food, you've got Cargill, you've got JBS USA holdings, and the National and National Beef.
They have gained control of roughly 85% of the total hot dog, cattle, poultry, and the poultry processing.
So, here's the thing: we're just like this only happened over 30 years.
Four companies controlling 85% of the market.
And here's what happens when you do that: when you control that much of the market, you get to dictate prices, right?
You get to decide how much meat costs on a specific day.
And there hasn't been a check on corporations absorbing other corporations.
You even have, not to get into the weeds, guys, you even have situations where like companies like BlackRock are going to like rural areas that have like, you know, important like infrastructure like electricity and just buying the electricity grid in those regions and just buying the power company so that they can push whatever agenda.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
It's it's insane.
And the thing is, there's no check on these companies because at the end of the day, these companies only have the obligation to their shareholders and the people that they make money for.
It's a private institution.
And the thing is, is capitalism was supposed to be a good thing.
And I debated this with somebody the other day.
Ultimately, capitalism is still a good thing, guys, but not the way that we're practicing it.
rex jones
Don't we don't have a free market system necessarily?
You could argue a free market system isn't really a free market system.
It's a system where monopolies are controlled for.
And we don't have a system where monopolies are controlled for.
You look at Amazon, you look at these big ag meat packing industry.
You look at missiles and technology companies and the way that they're structured and what monopolies automatically form.
You look at the social media companies, phenomenal example.
And ultimately, when you have a company, a private company doing a job, which essentially like, if you're a racist, they can't turn off your water, right?
But if you're a social media company and someone's racist, you can take them off your platform, right?
Yeah.
But then you enjoy legal protections of being that private company, of being a publisher, when in fact you're kind of a utility.
And that's the language used in Section 230, is that these companies are utilities.
So you'd think that something like this, which is a utility to the people, obviously making sure people can have processed meat products at the end of the day, right?
It's kind of like with the doctors where they get to set whatever price they want, isn't it?
tim tompkins
Yeah, the pharma companies and the consolidation.
rex jones
And doesn't that not work?
And this is where a little bit of left-wing thinking comes in for me.
I'm like, hey, you know what?
The government has all this power to control stuff anyway.
They use that power to enrich the giant mass.
tim tompkins
I am monopolists.
I'm so glad you brought up this point because this is the exact point that I was making.
I said, capitalism is the only solution as far as like that actually works in society, not the way that it's practiced today.
Because communism, forget that.
We have plenty of examples of societies collapsing.
It doesn't work.
Socialism is in the same bucket as that true socialism.
They don't work.
Capitalism is the only thing that has really shown to actually function because you're giving the modern world is because people built stuff here.
Right.
There is incentive to do that.
But here's where it goes wrong.
The check and the balance to capitalism is you are supposed to have politicians and you're supposed to have the government, which is supposed to regulate the capitalistic system as a whole.
rex jones
That is the government waddles around like a drunk toddler kind of on a leash with the company.
Yes.
The relationship now.
tim tompkins
Well, here's the thing.
You become a private corporation.
You realize money talks, lobbying speaks.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
And you can go and pass any level of regulation just because you have enough money and that person has to have an incentive to actually make the laws for you.
rex jones
Well, this group, this big ag, I mean, that's the constituency.
That's the real constituency of the politicians.
You know, it's one of the constituents out of many, but that's one of them.
They don't care about the voter.
They care about the company because the company is the one that's going to give them the stock tip and the job afterwards, lobbying.
Look, you have a lot of white pill perspectives when it comes to being positive about the future and about technological developments.
And I'm a little more black pill.
We disagree.
That's fine.
We can agree 100% on this.
They are grifting to the maximum with everything they do.
There is not one thing where they're not wringing out every last dime from the American people.
tim tompkins
Yeah, the only way the system works, guys, is when you have integrity and you don't have greed.
Okay.
That's the only way that the system works because integrity of the people.
rex jones
I've never had integrity like me before.
tim tompkins
You have to have a certain level of integrity to do the right thing by the people, even though you know it doesn't really matter if that person who you have never met has no relation to you and has no impact on your life.
That's the problem.
There's too much distance between the politicians and what real life is like.
rex jones
Right.
They've completely forgotten.
unidentified
Completely.
rex jones
They never knew.
tim tompkins
Some people have where they're like, oh, I have experience, but then the swamp is already so full of the bad people.
You just have to become part of the system.
Otherwise, you get put on display.
rex jones
Is the swamp.
We touched on this I think I made this point on our last live.
The swamp is the money like.
That's the water in the swamp.
It's a green.
It's a green swamp, it's very green.
It's made out of dollar bills like that, that is, and that's the water they hide in and slither around in.
It's the financial system and it's the companies like this that are able to go to any politician in in the in the states and go, look like, just be on our side, be chill, we got our racket here, be a part of our racket.
It's all good man, and hey, if you don't want to take that deal, you're just not going to be elected next time.
tim tompkins
Exactly right, it's exactly the person.
rex jones
Go well, and maybe I could do some good.
And this is the argument I hear for the politicians is what I hear for Trump.
They go well, you know, maybe he can do some.
He can do some kind of good job for us.
I mean that's the noble intention.
I'm sure that's there somewhat for every politician.
But then you sit down and you're with the boys that also have the power and you're kind of laughing about screwing the people.
I mean, I can, you can kind of sense how this goes down.
tim tompkins
I I have literally been around uh, sons of billionaires.
I have literally been to their houses, I have interacted.
rex jones
There is a certain level of elitism that yeah people, real money, like like people, people thought that we had money at some point.
You're, you're talking, we're pumpkins.
Yeah like, compared to what these people are doing.
tim tompkins
Some of my friends growing up, as well as their parents, like I literally went to school with the Kennedys.
Okay, like I, I was around very affluent kids.
I was broke as I was on snap.
rex jones
I went to school with the Kennedys.
I beat them at sports.
It's true.
tim tompkins
Everyone says yeah, like I had friends that like they were in the uh, Israeli um equestrian what is the horseback riding?
rex jones
The equestrian?
tim tompkins
Yeah, they're like literally part of the Jewish like uh, Olympic team because they can afford just to have the stable and the black horse and it's insane.
But here's the thing, they have generational wealth and it kind of like can never go away.
That could never go away.
And I don't want to say like, all rich people are this way because like, 80 of millionaires are self self-made.
Right, the number might be.
rex jones
We're talking about levels, though.
tim tompkins
We're talking people, but there's levels or hundreds yeah, but there's levels to this game guys, and there is a certain level of detachment once you stop interacting with the poor people and you've got gated communities and you've got ability to like, hedge yourself away from other people.
rex jones
Like in New York City, there's rooms that most people will never walk into right, and that's because you know you talk about like, like i'm white, you're black, that person's Puerto Rican that, that person's Asian, whatever.
It's not about race to these people at all.
It's not a race-based system.
If, when you move into the gated community and you're in the 10 million dollar house, you go to the HOA meeting and y'all essentially plot on people like, regardless of what's going on, Karen would call on me, on me.
The equalizer is money that's, that's what it is for everyone.
Tate talks about that.
Yes Andrew, Tate's talked about that a lot.
The equalizer is money and once you get the money, you're a part of the club and that that's what it takes and that's why you know, that's why I believe Trump would just never be satisfied with his voter base.
tim tompkins
He wanted to be in those rooms that you talk about right 100, 100 wanted to be in those rooms and there's conversations you and I are not part of, and there's certain things that are happening on a macro level that we won't understand.
rex jones
That's That's right.
tim tompkins
So if we get back to this, this is a big issue because these beef companies are out of control in the pork.
And that going to show is there are people fighting back.
There are corporations.
Even McDonald's is fighting back.
So let's go ahead and pull up this next graphic and going to show you what's going on here.
And go ahead and switch screen.
rex jones
Oops, my bad.
tim tompkins
All right.
So like we said, they're one of the biggest, the big four.
They got sued for $32.5 million this year.
So they've agreed to pay a settlement of the class auction lawsuit, accusing the company and other several other processors of conspiring to fix turkey prices.
rex jones
But it's just slap on the wrist.
That's all they ever get.
tim tompkins
$32 million is like nothing.
unidentified
Yeah, they're like, we wipe our ass with that.
tim tompkins
The agreement was filed on January 15th with the U.S. District Court of Northern District of Illinois, and it awaits court approval, but they essentially won that.
Carl's deal with the group direct purchasing, what does it say?
Group of purchaser plantives is the second reached on an ongoing litigation.
It comes nearly four years, four years after the first deal was struck in 2021 when Tyson Foods agreed to pay 4.625 million.
rex jones
The best lawyers on planet Earth work for these people.
tim tompkins
And it takes fucking four years.
They'll drag your ass in court before they actually end up admitting to the wrong.
Here's the thing.
When you win a settlement, not in all cases, we won't count your dad in this.
rex jones
Okay.
tim tompkins
Normally, especially with these big corporations, they know they've done the damage.
They know they already did that.
There was enough evidence to say it's out in the open.
You guys proved us.
You give us a slap on the wrist, but we're not going to fucking stop, baby.
We're not going to stop.
That's really what it comes down to.
So if you look at this, you're like, okay, well, certainly lawsuits are happening.
McDonald's is suing the meat industry for beef because they're doing the same thing there.
Because, you know, the thing with McDonald's, why they would, you know, why they would do something like that, Rex?
rex jones
Tell me.
tim tompkins
It's because people were complaining at one point.
You remember when you were like, dude, I used to be able to eat McDonald's and buy it for 20 bucks.
Yeah, man.
You weren't the only one that noticed that.
You know, I think, and this is the truth, I think, is what ended up happening, you got enough people that complain about the prices and they see like people are going to now Applebee's to get that same $10 meal because you can get it prepared by an actual chef.
And they somehow, I don't even know how the hell they keep the prices down, but McDonald's is struggling because they increased their prices to compensate with the meat fixing.
And now they're losing business and now they're losing money and they know they don't have the best quality.
So they're like, we got to do something here, guys.
rex jones
It might be cheaper to go to Perry's and get the pork chop on Friday when it's on when it's on like special deal for 45 bucks than to go eat fast food a couple to a few times a week.
tim tompkins
So I'm saying, man, it's insane.
rex jones
At least go get a steak.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And to the whole point of what he's talking about, you're going to find a lot of these restaurants now where you can like actually get a chef to make your meal and it's not coming out of like a drawer.
They're offering meals and incentives that are like basically the same price or cheaper than what these fast food places are able to offer.
And so this is one of the reasons why they've got to go and fight back.
But ultimately, we look at the situation, we're like, all right, well, America's cooked and we got no solutions to this.
And the thing is, is we're not actually in the worst situation out of the world.
And I just want to give you guys context because I know this is about America, but this is also a global show where we like to talk about the rest of the world.
So let's just go ahead and pull up the next graphic and it's going to show you.
Look, things are bad here, but they could definitely be worse.
They could 100% be worse.
rex jones
Oh, oh, Argentina, the place we just gave 40 billion to in a desperate bailout because we've had people invest down there.
They've got 183% food inflation year over year from 2023 to 2024.
183%.
That's like a burger at P. Terry's going from $8 to like almost $23.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
No.
tim tompkins
Over, over.
Yeah, over.
rex jones
Yeah.
unidentified
Over.
rex jones
I mean, it's wild.
And Palestine, the fucking, the place has been bombed to death.
They got way less food inflation.
Yeah.
tim tompkins
It's not funny, but it's just this is the comical situation about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
I would argue it is funny.
And not laughing at the situation.
People can't eat, of course.
I feel like it's horrible for them.
But it's so absurd that the world runs this way.
The place that's been bombed to oblivion, it's been genocided.
They have way less food inflation than the libertarian republic in South America.
It blows my mind.
tim tompkins
South Sudan, 96.
rex jones
Zimbabwe.
Zimbabwe.
Sudan's basically like open war pit death land.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Right.
And Zimbabwe is pretty bad too.
Turkey, pretty terrible.
Malawi, I believe.
Nigeria, Haiti.
Damn, Haiti's pretty low on the list.
Angola, Egypt.
Okay.
tim tompkins
Yeah, these are top 10.
So here's the thing, guys.
rex jones
Places where it's very hot.
tim tompkins
There's no was bad, but you could be like Argentina, where yours is literally like almost 200% inflation.
rex jones
People are winning.
tim tompkins
And then, and it really, that what's driving that one is you've got the currency that's imploding there.
You had a lot of politicians that came in, printed a bunch of money, thought that money was a solution of just printing more.
And they had like two to 300% food inflation over the course of that amount of time that they started doing that stuff with Turkey.
Um, they've also got a bunch of devaluation of their currency, and they're basically in like permanent double-digit inflation.
rex jones
You know, Turkey is both a NATO member and a BRICS member.
tim tompkins
Yeah, they're playing both sides.
rex jones
Dude, Erwan is really smart, uh, shrewd man.
But you got another slide?
tim tompkins
Uh, no, I mean, this is the this was the last one, but like ultimately, um, like I said, I know it's bad, but I'll take the occasional 10 to 13 percent.
We're not rising like that as much anymore.
It has definitely tapered off just slightly over the incompetency of like some of these other countries where they just like have just a totally cooked thousand dollar cheeseburger.
Yeah, because at the end of the day, this going from 50 cents to 97 cents is like, okay, that's bad, but it's not as bad as it could be.
Like, imagine this was like $5, and that's what it's like in some of these other countries.
But, you know, in conclusion, man, like I used to think for the longest time, I'm like, all right, it's a supply chain.
It's got to be the supply chain.
That's what I've been told the whole time.
I've been told that the Ukraine war was the reason why my bread is so expensive.
I've been told that the avian flu with the birds and shit is the reason why my eggs are out of control, man.
And I just have to trust in the system that like you guys are telling the right things.
And it's like, oh, dude, as I was reading this, I was like, all right, man.
I don't know.
I'm not trying to say I lost humanity, last lost faith in humanity, but come on.
donald j trump
Tough.
rex jones
Very tough.
It's very disheartening the way they screw people.
And on the most essential thing you need, the food, they get you there too.
And it's like, look, we have lawyers, we have money.
You're going to find us.
You're going to sue us.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter to us because we're on the winning team.
We're in the club and you're not.
tim tompkins
You know, and the thing is, no wonder they voted for Mamdani.
Yeah.
No fucking wonder they had a socialist Islamic go into the.
Yeah, he promised to freeze the rent because he understood that the problem was so big that people just like, just give me any solution, because the rest of them aren't doing anything.
So he goes out there.
No wonder these people voted for him, because he's given the fairy tale.
People want to be sold a dream.
Guys right, they don't want reality, they want to be sold a dream.
So if you can go in there and promise to freeze the rent, promise to stabilize the food prices, and just lie to the people, they're gonna vote for you.
That's all you gotta do, man.
We got bamboozled when we voted in 2024, but you know, it's just like, what can you do?
What can you do?
rex jones
And yeah, we can talk about it.
We can raise awareness of it.
We can actually become knowledgeable about the situation and system that we're in, because they built the system.
We're in the system.
We have to get out of the system somehow.
Only way to do that is to have knowledge of it.
tim tompkins
Yeah, have a healthy level of skepticism sometime, guys from the mainstream narratives.
Um, not everything out there is the truth, as we already know, and certain corporations are doing the right thing.
Other corporations not so much monopolies are literally a terrible thing in society and they should not exist.
That's the whole reason why we have these antitrust laws and they're not being followed.
rex jones
Yeah, we have laws in the books to deal with all this stuff.
I I think it's been a phenomenal show.
tim tompkins
Yeah, let's read some of the comments before we head off here guys, read the comments.
rex jones
I sell tomato plants for four bucks.
They'll produce 20 to 60 tomatoes, depending on how good your soil is.
tim tompkins
Hey, come sell me some man, new grass, i'll take it over.
rex jones
This spray painted uh tomato, it's too big, it's too, it's a giant tomato.
Tim will eventually eat the bugs.
No no, you'll eat the bugs and you'll be happy.
tim tompkins
You will feel this at home.
rex jones
That's what they say.
You'll eat the bugs and you'll be happy.
You will just adapt to go along hoping to get along.
No, I don't think so.
I can't believe how any harmful substances are in modern food with all the tech we have.
Yeah, I mean, it's almost like it's by design.
Steak has doubled in price in the last 24 months.
They always leave off red meat because it hurts their narrative.
Yeah, the red meat prices.
I mean.
tim tompkins
That's why i'm gonna consolidation.
rex jones
I'm gonna kill four deer this year, i'm gonna fill out my entire uh, entire hunting license and i'm gonna put meat in the freezer.
I'm done buying it at the grocery store.
It's insane.
It is all a complete overhaul situation.
Integrity integrity, what's up?
Dogface, pony soldier, city bylaws will ruin your life.
Move to the country.
People who live in hoas deserve to be subjugated.
Fines will cost you everything.
Who cares if they won't allow it, do it anyways.
Yeah, we all got to go local f the mega courts.
tim tompkins
It's very easy to say that, but then, if you think about the average person had prices go up for everything, they really can't afford good food.
rex jones
Here's the thing, to just buy organic dude yeah, it's twice the price, I see, but I also see the point this person's making is in.
Like a chicken coop is really cheap and you can literally you'll never run out of eggs, you'll always have eggs and you can eat eggs a lot.
So, like there, there are things I think we're going to see a return to it as, as just you know yeah, but Like, the raw materials become more expensive or become cheaper than the actual finished product.
I think we're going to see a lot of people.
tim tompkins
I agree with what you're saying, but at the same time, taking care of chickens is not the easiest thing, especially if you want to travel, especially you want to do a whole lot.
It's like basically having another ant.
Like I talk to farmers who have all their produce that come from their animals.
It's a full-time job.
rex jones
Yeah, yeah, it is.
But having a chicken coop is not a full-time job.
tim tompkins
My sister had chickens.
rex jones
Yeah, I've had chickens many times.
They're easy to take care of.
tim tompkins
But even in general, like you want to go somewhere, you're not, you're not like, you're going to have to come have somebody come and take care of your chickens.
And it's just, there's more hassle it takes than just for me to go to the system.
rex jones
But isn't that better to make people like grow up and be more reliant on themselves?
tim tompkins
Yeah, but that's a band-aid, not a solution.
rex jones
I know, I disagree.
I think that is the solution is to get people to feed themselves.
And I think people agree with me on that, but I'm not sure.
You know, I don't, I just look, I've had a chicken coop.
I've known tons of people that had chickens.
I've known people that had pigs, know people that have cows.
Would you do a pig and a cow?
unidentified
No.
rex jones
No, I would not where I'm living right now, the current state.
But if I was in Austin and I had a backyard the same size I have now, I'd what if you're in the city and you have and you live in an apartment?
Well, this is true, but this is kind of part of like the trained behavior that people engage in, right?
Of living, being a modern human and not taking care of yourself and letting you know a system do it for you.
And I understand that there's benefit to that.
And then people ultimately, some people can't help themselves and they need help.
tim tompkins
Well, it's fine.
And part of it comes down to also your upbringing, too.
Like I was a city guy.
I grew up with Walmart five minutes down the road.
I grew up around high-rises.
Like if you're born in that environment, you have an affinity to these urban environments.
You don't want to be out in the countryside raising chickens.
rex jones
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yeah, go ahead.
Because I killed the deer.
And you got the deer processed after I chopped it up.
And I tell you about it.
And you're like, that's great.
unidentified
Whatever.
rex jones
It's not like culture necessarily.
I'm like, okay.
Would you ever go hunting, Tim?
Would you ever do this?
tim tompkins
To kill an animal.
Out of necessity.
No, out of necessity.
Yes, but just for sport?
Probably not.
rex jones
I would choose.
So you consider it sport if someone can go to the grocery store and eat, but instead they kill the animal.
Because I don't consider what I did over the weekend.
unidentified
No, you didn't do it.
tim tompkins
You didn't do it for sport.
rex jones
I can say, yeah.
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
I'm just saying, like, in general, if I were to go out and shoot, it would be for sport because I'm not storing deer meat in my fridge for a whole year.
Like, I don't cook anyways.
Like, I'm, I, I, it's just too much energy for me to go.
And like, I outsource that's fair.
I optimize my life around not having to cook.
Hey, I'm taking applications for no, just kidding.
rex jones
Um, but, anyways, I'm just thinking about control over the things that you need to live.
tim tompkins
No, and it makes sense, but ultimately, because we've created a republic to where we're delegating our, it really does come down to the people we put in charge to where like the globalizing of the economy and the food system was great, but it's like we ended up doing a bunch of other shit we didn't.
rex jones
I think the citizenry can do a better job.
Let's read some more comics.
I bought six chickens and made my own eggs.
People need to start depending or stop depending on the system.
Well, the chickens made the eggs, to be fair.
The chickens, they produced the eggs.
If you were making your own eggs, it'd be a scientific problem.
Good segment.
They should go to prison for price fixing.
They should.
Who invested early?
It would be great if I made a new TurboForce.
TurboForce still exists.
You can get it at Dr. Jones Naturals, D.R. JonesNaturals.com.
They don't pay me at all.
tim tompkins
In fact, they fired me.
I have tasted a real garden tomato.
It's just, I don't want to go spend $10.
rex jones
Tim is actually, he's from the Hunger Games movie.
He lives in District 1 and then he escaped.
Right?
tim tompkins
Dude, I shot my first gun like last year.
Like, you guys got to understand.
rex jones
We're making progress.
tim tompkins
We live in two different worlds, guys.
rex jones
We're making progress.
It's easy.
Why aren't Mexicans headed back to their country and droves to help their own people liberate their country from the cartels?
tim tompkins
Because the cartel is like basically a military force.
And you'll get kidnapped with all of your family and they'll hold you guys hostage.
rex jones
Look, we know about cartel videos.
But thank you all for being here with us tonight.
This has been a great show.
I really enjoyed your prepared segment.
And we had someone go, talking to us like we're in Grange Cool or whatever.
And then you really got into the information about the price gouging and about the supply of eggs not changing and all that.
And that's a very important factoid.
You can remember, you can come from the show and maybe a week, a month, a couple of months, several months, you're in a conversation with someone.
They're going, yeah, you know, it's okay.
Like, you know, the company's like, it is what it is, man.
You're like, no, it's not.
It is not.
It is what it is.
This is a problem.
We're being scammed.
We're being robbed.
tim tompkins
The facts are there.
rex jones
The supply of eggs never decreased and the prices have gone way up.
And they're telling us the prices are down.
They're lying to us.
So that right there is valuable information.
You can take from this broadcast.
You can do with it what you will.
But that's what we're doing for you here on the gray area.
And we appreciate you for being here with us tonight.
We love doing call-ins.
It's hard getting people on the show to do interviews.
And I'm getting more people on to do that.
And we're troubleshooting and workshopping that.
We want to do more call-in shows.
We want to do more debate shows.
So if you've got like a super polarized opinion in any direction, like if you're super pro-Trump, super anti-Trump, contact us.
And we're going to try to put some people together on various topics.
Like we did the pro-H-1B, anti-H-1B.
tim tompkins
Yeah, eventually we're working on coming out with a new Wednesday segment.
We're going to be trying to film.
What would that put us at?
Four times a week?
rex jones
Four times a week.
And that would put us.
tim tompkins
What do you say Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday?
rex jones
That would put us at eight hours, close to 10 hours, if you count the Sunday stream, of us every week talking to you guys.
And like, we're loving it.
Like, we're having such like this is, I look forward to this every night.
I had reasons I couldn't be here tonight and whatever.
I'm like, look, I hated it so much when I missed last Tuesday and last Thursday that we have to make it right.
And I just, I'm so thankful.
I know Tim is too, that we have the opportunity to do this show for you guys.
tim tompkins
100%, guys.
rex jones
And just seriously, he says, oh, it's not going to work.
It's not going to work.
We've hit our limit.
unidentified
Fuck that.
rex jones
Fuck that.
We've not hit our limit.
You have to follow him now because I said the F word.
You have to follow Truism Tim on X. Please do it.
We're trying to get the best interviews for you guys.
We're trying to get the best guests.
We're trying to do the best shows.
We're putting in the work here to do the episodes and put out the content to make that possible.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
We're going to continue doing these deep dives.
I had a lot of fun tonight.
I hope you guys learned something.
The goal is, is every single Sunday, if you tune into this segment, you will learn something new that you thought you knew, but you probably didn't understand the specifics, just like I did.
Every time I go and research something, Rex, I'm like, wow, I thought I knew that.
rex jones
It's always super surprising.
tim tompkins
And I'm like, all right, maybe I didn't.
But now I'm becoming a well-informed citizen and I am armed with knowledge.
rex jones
I mean, just think about the final factoid.
Argentina has way worse food inflation than the war zone that is Palestine.
Like the place that's been bombed.
That's the last thing we talked about.
And it's just so crazy.
Just keep that in mind.
The fiscal behavior of Argentina is so bad.
And that's the state that we back in Latin America.
That's our poster child.
It's worse than the place we bombed.
And they're our friend.
And that's how we friends like this who needs enemies, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
It's crazy.
Nuts.
tim tompkins
Last little fun fact on Argentina.
It actually used to be the Dubai of Latin America.
It used to be like the place where all the wealthy people went to go invest.
rex jones
And you had where Hitler legendarily escaped to.
tim tompkins
We do need to do eventually a deep dive on that and how their inflation got out of control.
But ultimately, this was a fun segment.
Uh, we've got long form that comes out based off of this, so episodes will be coming out with that.
Um, like I said, uh, ultimately, I think next week's segment, I'm still working on that, but uh, you guys drop a comment in the uh video for this.
Let me know if there's something you guys want to talk about.
I've kind of gotten a little bit away from history because we did a lot of history segments, and I wanted to do a little bit more segments that hit you guys back at home that like are actually relatable for you guys.
rex jones
History is real important too.
There's definitely you know, forgotten time periods.
We should definitely do a Latin American, you know, drug influence deep dive.
Just so many topics, how we've influenced the government.
And look, that's why we love the show.
We're only 21 lives in.
We've done a few more episodes in that, probably like 25 tape sessions.
Look, we're getting better every time we do this, and every time we find a new topic, we're like, wow, this is props.
Like, how, how, how, how could, how could this get better, guys?
And then you're just like, wow, the next thing is just so incredible.
tim tompkins
Who do you know?
What other show do you know is dressing up in these props and eating tomatoes, huh?
rex jones
Look, Tim had to spend his last 90 cents to get this tomato.
That's how much we care, guys.
And we took out a 50-year mortgage on the top.
tim tompkins
I got a box full of 50-year.
I got a box full of like literally costumes because I've made a tradition out of this.
At first, I was just joking around and I'm like, you know what?
Got to keep the tradition going.
So, at the end of the day, do you have anything else last?
rex jones
Let's just glaze ourselves even more.
unidentified
Let's just glaze ourselves a little bit.
rex jones
You go to people and they got to stick up their ass and they're like a studio at the blaze or breaking points or something.
unidentified
And they're, oh, oh, oh, cover.
rex jones
We're having fun here.
We're enjoying doing this show.
And we think that when we have fun, you have fun too, because this is a community.
And we talk to you.
And we hope if you're having fun, we hope you call in and we hope that you subscribe and we hope that you follow us on X. Thank you so much for being here with us.
I need sleepy time right now.
Yeah, it's rest.
I need sleepy time right now.
tim tompkins
All right, guys.
unidentified
Nice place to go to when I'm asleep.
rex jones
Take care, guys.
God bless.
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