Nov. 12, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. | |
| Let me get this out the way. | ||
| How are we doing tonight, guys? | ||
| Thank you for waiting in the chat real quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See all the love. | ||
| Evening, guys. | ||
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Marco Polo. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Who else we got in here? | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Honey Badger, always. | ||
| Cooper95. | ||
| Nice, nice. | ||
| Okay, guys. | ||
| The X feed says content not available. | ||
| What's up with this? | ||
| That's what people in the chat are saying. | ||
| We're going to check it on our end. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| No, we're able to view it. | ||
| It works for us. | ||
| I'm not sure about that. | ||
| What's up, New Gripper? | ||
| Glad you're with us tonight. | ||
| Yeah, it works on our end, guys. | ||
| So I'm not too sure about that. | ||
| Anybody else having that issue where it's not showing content? | ||
| I'm feeling good tonight, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, this week, really since we did the Sunday show, what news has been on your mind, Tim? | ||
| Has it just been about the government shutdown? | ||
| Because I know that's what we were just discussing before we went on air here. | ||
| I mean, it's hard because the X algorithm these days, man, it's where's it leading you? | ||
| It's leading me down rabbit hole after rabbit hole. | ||
| But most of what I'm seeing right now is everything around the government shutdown. | ||
| People are unhappy about the cost of living. | ||
| I've seen a lot of people in politics doing the posting like they would normally do. | ||
| And then I'm also seeing stuff about Cash's girlfriend suing for $5 million, which is something we're going to talk about tonight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So it's a very interesting story. | ||
| You know, when I initially saw it, it was on my ex-feed. | ||
| That's where I found out about all this. | ||
| And it was Kash Patel's girlfriend sues Eliza Schaefer, and he does the Rift TV. | ||
| He's like a right-wing pundit/slash activist. | ||
| He's been around for a while. | ||
| He's a good guy, but I thought it was just him. | ||
| And then come to find out later, it's not only him, but it's also Kyle Serafin and then one other guy. | ||
| And Kyle Serafin is like my dad's go-to guest for the show. | ||
| Like they love talking to each other. | ||
| He's an FBI whistleblower, really good communicator, really solid on a lot of issues and like stood tall when he needed to. | ||
| And apparently he's been sued for $5 million too. | ||
| And, you know, the thing that interests me about this whole story, Tim, is just the parallel in the sense of dealing with civil court between this and our case, right? | ||
| You have someone that sues you and like, where are the damages that they're suing you for? | ||
| But they still sue you for this crazy amount of money. | ||
| Defamation is one of those like slippery slopes where you can kind of get away with at least it was somewhat insulting. | ||
| They say, oh, you got a case. | ||
| Let's go for it. | ||
| Ultimately, they just want to take her money, her lawyers. | ||
| Well, I mean, obviously lawyers always get like 30, 40%, but she's suing and she's saying you cannot say anything bad about me or that I might be something. | ||
| Basically, you're destroying my career. | ||
| Do you have the clips of what the people have been saying that are getting sued? | ||
| Let's go to let's go to the Twitter thread, the news thread about this and see if we can find any of them. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| It's him talking about it. | ||
| Let's watch and talk about it for a little bit. | ||
| This is like Kash Patel's girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins. | ||
| And the reason why I might actually shock you. | ||
| About a couple months ago, I posted this photo on the public social media platform X. | ||
| I posted it with no caption, no suggestions of any malintent or any slander, defamation, or criticisms of character. | ||
| I did so attached to an X post shared by another account that I'm not connected to that talked about government agents being compromised. | ||
| Now Alexis Wilkins is saying that I owe her $5 million for damages, the exact evaluation of my company. | ||
| And if I cannot come up with that money, then I'm going to have to shut down my business, give up all of my digital assets. | ||
| My entire life, where we heard this, where we heard this. | ||
| I've played these games before. | ||
| I wonder. | ||
| And, you know, it makes a lot of sense that to me, I look at the situation where Trump could easily step in. | ||
| The DOJ, the FBI, they funded lawsuits against us. | ||
| That renders them invalid. | ||
| And really, they should have to pay us damages. | ||
| They should have to pay free speech systems, otherwise known as Infowars. | ||
| They should have to pay them damages. | ||
| But watching this, I mean, that precedent is just so strong and so good that if someone says something that hurts the feelings really, really bad, you get to come in and take their whole company. | ||
| Look, Sandy walked. | ||
| So they, you know, Cash's girlfriend could run. | ||
| Could run, man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| No, that's a good point. | ||
| I mean, this guy, he's built up this massive operation. | ||
| He's got a good show over there at the Rift. | ||
| I like the Rift TV guys over there. | ||
| But he's built this whole thing. | ||
| They're like, no, we're going to take it from you because you said the bad thing. | ||
| And it looks like he didn't say the bad thing. | ||
| In order to pay her back. | ||
| So why does Kash Patel's girlfriend want to silence me? | ||
| Well, it comes down to the lawsuit itself. | ||
| Before anyone jumps to conclusions and says, well, don't say that she's a honeypot. | ||
| I'd like to say, I never did. | ||
| I never would. | ||
| I never felt like suggesting that. | ||
| I never even suggested that in my own head. | ||
| So why am I being sued for something I never did? | ||
| To give proof of that in section 14 of the lawsuit, it states, while the defendant may not have included any caption to spell out the meaning of his post, he didn't have to. | ||
| Ever since Kash Patel was appointed director of the FBI in February of 2025, the conspiratorial corners of the internet and social media have been spreading false narratives about Miss Wilkins as an Israeli massad agent spy or quote honeypot who is only in the relationship with Kash Patel to spy on and manipulate the United States government. | ||
| Defendant's wordless reply, it goes on to say. | ||
| So to clarify, before we go any further, if you post a public photo of a government. | ||
| He's not the only one who said this, though. | ||
| Do you know how many, you know how many people I've seen cover this where they're all like saying he's why him in particular? | ||
| You know where else that was the case? | ||
| Yeah, you're dad playing with fire. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, this is the playbook, guys. | ||
| And like, this was everywhere. | ||
| And I mean, people have been saying way worse. | ||
| So I just had ChatGPT do it. | ||
| And I don't trust ChatGPT necessarily, but it just told me that she's not an Israeli citizen and that there's no credible claim of her citizenship and that in the lawsuit, she states that she's from here and XYZ and all that type of stuff. | ||
| But, you know, the thing going around that I've seen, I've seen it since Kash Patel was confirmed to be FBI director was this little screen grab of like her Prager U profile. | ||
| And on it, it said like, like a veteran of like unit 8200. | ||
| Now, that may be fake. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| All that'll come out in discovery. | ||
| That is the great thing about court is that we'll get to see a lot of this stuff when this actually goes through. | ||
| Of course, it'll be in years because that's how this works also, is they keep you in court for years. | ||
| And to me, that's the most damaging thing that's going to come out of all this. | ||
| Elijah is now not just going to have to worry about growing the rift and building his operation up. | ||
| He's going to have to deal with the lawsuit. | ||
| And I've seen the kind of toll that takes on a guy. | ||
| Lots of money, money, man. | ||
| Yeah, about money. | ||
| He probably doesn't even have that much money, man. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's actually, you know, that's one of the reasons why people immediately go to suing, especially if you have money and you want to attack somebody who doesn't have money. | ||
| And you may, even if you don't have enough on them, you have just enough to pull them. | ||
| Yeah, you can just hurt them just enough by how much they have to pay in legal fees to defend themselves. | ||
| You almost get the point across. | ||
| That's why I think I saw something like Chase said. | ||
| If you like basically, if you don't, I'm losing my train of thought. | ||
| No, you're good. | ||
| If you don't win a case or you get proven that your defamation is false, I mean, he went to the extreme. | ||
| He said they should get death penalty. | ||
| But in this circumstance, I think there needs to be a penalty for, you know, if you are suing somebody, you lose the case or it's very clear that you didn't have. | ||
| I think it's there's nuances. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think it's nuanced. | ||
| I don't know what the way to fix it would be. | ||
| I would think it would be to raise the burden of proof a little bit. | ||
| That would be what I would like to see, but we're never going to see that happen. | ||
| I mean, the civil court system is really broken. | ||
| It may even be more broken than the criminal courts just because of, you know, how frivolous they're able to be with the preponderance of evidence standard and all of that. | ||
| But let's keep watching the clip and learn more about the story. | ||
| Official and his romantic partner, who he's not married to, very important talks about you as a private citizen or a member of the press can be bankrupted, have your entire company shut down or completely mock, slandered, and dragged through lawfare because of what? | ||
| Because of your First Amendment protected rights. | ||
| Now, I believe that this lawsuit is not only an attack on our First Amendment and our constitutional rights given to us by God, but I believe this is also a violation of slap ordinances. | ||
| This seems to be a proxy lawsuit, if anything, from Kash Patel himself. | ||
| And I have the evidence to prove it. | ||
| We'll start here by talking about what is this lawsuit about and why is it so concerning? | ||
| As I just read in the previous section, Alexis Wilkins states that I never said anything about her being a massage agent. | ||
| So how am I being sued for saying anything about that? | ||
| Considering I'm being sued for things I didn't say? | ||
| Yeah, you heard that right. | ||
| They're suing me for the implications based upon previous posts I had made on my ex account, not about Alexis, not about cash, but about the state of Israel. | ||
| I take you to section 17 of evidence. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Defendant frequently posts anti-Israel rhetoric accusing Israel of controlling the United States and its politicians in which they share a post-crime. | ||
| And we're going to bank so many thousands of accounts that are doing this, though. | ||
| Why is he the target? | ||
| I'm not on. | ||
| I mean, he has, he's not no one. | ||
| He's somebody. | ||
| He's a political figure and he's been selected to be punished. | ||
| They're like, oh, your dad. | ||
| You do it to set an example. | ||
| Well, they're like, your dad's been milked enough. | ||
| So let's just go after the next biggest thing. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| It's a mischaracterization. | ||
| My dad wasn't even milked. | ||
| He was destroyed. | ||
| It was never about trying to get anything out of him. | ||
| It's about making an example out of the person so then he could point to the person like this guy who's a rising figure in alternative media and go, hey, you want to build your own operation? | ||
| You want to do all this? | ||
| That's great. | ||
| But if you ever come against us or criticize us anyway, we're going to get you just like we got him. | ||
| And that's what they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's how they build the culture. | ||
| That's how they control it. | ||
| And you know, she's like at home. | ||
| She's like, Cash, do something. | ||
| Go, go, go pull some of your resources and get this bad man because he said bad things about me. | ||
| I guess, but I mean, they're not even like real people. | ||
| Like, like the thing that blows my mind is like, she's this country music sensation. | ||
| We look it up. | ||
| What sensation? | ||
| Look, we look, we look it up, we Google it. | ||
| Uh, we go on X. Only clips we can find are her singing the national anthem. | ||
| And I saw a screen grab of her Spotify profile. | ||
| She's got like 10,000 like monthly listeners, which is not bad. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| And it's like basically SoundCloud rapper. | ||
| Dude, we love SoundCloud, right? | ||
| Pretty face. | ||
| So, I mean, these people, they're mysterious. | ||
| They're kind of like the image of what you want, but not the actual thing, kind of like, you know, like a cardboard cutout of a person. | ||
| It's like, oh, this is a famous person. | ||
| It's just two-dimensional cardboard. | ||
| That's what a lot of these people are. | ||
| And, you know, if you mess with that, if you poke at that, if you question that a little bit, you're going to get smacked with a big old hammer. | ||
| Like what happened to old Elijah here. | ||
| He said Trump doesn't want to admit that Netanyahu doesn't fear him. | ||
| Israel has more control over the USA than we do over them. | ||
| Our politicians, our hookline, and sinker sold out to the Jewish state of regime. | ||
| It's genuinely disheartening. | ||
| And we must remove these parasites from AIPAC. | ||
| They also posted more evidence in the lawsuit. | ||
| Nothing to do with Alexis Wilkins. | ||
| Nothing to do with Kash Patel. | ||
| And nothing to do with me saying anything about her being a massad agent. | ||
| I never said it. | ||
| So they don't have evidence. | ||
| So why is it that they've made the entire lawsuit about my thoughts on the Israeli government? | ||
| That's highly simple. | ||
| Well, it's simple. | ||
| Whenever this court thing happens, what they're going to do is they'll wheel in one or two tweets of you talking about Alexis or retweeting it or whatever. | ||
| Or they'll find a video or clip of him saying something. | ||
| But before they show that, before they show like the scraps they have on you of you maybe talking about her one time, which last time I checked is not defamation. | ||
| It's not crime. | ||
| It's not illegal. | ||
| They will instead wheel in probably like 300 tweets of this guy talking bad about Israel, probably to like the most like Jewish judge possible. | ||
| And then you're found liable, buddy. | ||
| You're going to have to pay the 5 million because you're a bad guy. | ||
| Can we quickly look up the definition of defamation as it pertains to the law? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That is important for the context. | ||
| Go ahead and talk a little bit while I do that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Overall, maybe, maybe I always have a set. | ||
| Like everyone has a saying, where there's smoke, there's fire. | ||
| I don't see him not having any sense of having said nothing. | ||
| Like, of course, he's got to take that position because now he's being sued. | ||
| But he had to have said something to piss her off. | ||
| Like, you don't just piss somebody off for no reason. | ||
| But the crime put air quotations around that does not justify the punishment of what she's trying to do. | ||
| Legally, defamation is a false statement of fact that harms another person's reputation and is communicated to a third party. | ||
| It includes both libel, written statements, and slandered spoken statements. | ||
| And a plaintiff must generally prove the statement was untrue, communicated to others, and caused damage to the reputation. | ||
| Key elements of defamation, false statement of fact, statement must be untrue and presented as a fact, not an opinion. | ||
| For example, saying someone stole from the company is a statement of fact while calling them not a very nice person is an opinion. | ||
| So you're not allowed to have the opinion that the person might be a honeypot? | ||
| I think you're not allowed to have that opinion. | ||
| Okay, so I think here's the nuance. | ||
| You and I saying something is completely different because we don't have the same platform as somebody like him. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Well, I think the idea of defamation in general, and I'm not saying pertaining to just this case, but in general, if a person has the ability to have a big enough microphone, it can be considered as defamation because you have enough of an impact on the outside. | ||
| Yeah, but the thing is, causing damage to the reputation. | ||
| I mean, like, oh, I tell someone, oh, Tim is a bad guy. | ||
| And that person like doesn't like you now. | ||
| And then you can sue them for X amount of money. | ||
| No, you have to like lose your job. | ||
| I was gonna say, there has to be something tied to it where like you lost an opportunity, you know, like, uh, you know, let's say like you're Kanye and you're sorry, I saw posts where you might be an agent and I just can't have cash work for me anymore. | ||
| I mean, it's true, it's true. | ||
| Yeah, I know, I see, I see what you're saying, yeah, but like she's totally fine, she's coasting, she's doing whatever. | ||
| But let's see what else I got on this little subject here. | ||
| Um, this Elijah Schaefer tweet got the same lawsuit for the same amount of money from the same law firm as I got. | ||
| Law firm is Banal Law, which is run by blah, blah, who's also president of the Cash Foundation. | ||
| Oh, yeah, so I told you she's like, Daddy, help me. | ||
| Yeah, yep, yeah, come on. | ||
| At the point at which you have those levels of connection, and that is your boyfriend, best believe she's going to ask him for help and damsel in distress, right? | ||
| Well, I mean, I think they're like a like a Borg or just like a fused unit. | ||
| I think they're both professionals working. | ||
| That's my opinion. | ||
| I just don't think they're necessarily working for us. | ||
| That's that's what I believe. | ||
| That's an opinion. | ||
| Yeah, you got to distinguish. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I need the 7,000. | ||
| Next week, we're going to touch the wall. | ||
| You're going to get a piece of mail this week. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
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You said I wasn't a country music sensation. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What else you got on here? | ||
| Um, just some text from the lawsuit. | ||
| Defendant Kyle Serafin has maliciously lied about Alexis Wilkins, falsely asserting that she, an American-born country singer. | ||
| Okay, she asserts that is an agent of foreign government assigned to manipulate and compromise the director of the FBI. | ||
| Defendant, a former FBI special agent himself, who's now making a living as a podcaster and political commentator, profiting on controversy, controversy, and outrage. | ||
| See, they don't have a problem with it when Benny Johnson is doing it or when DC Draino is doing it or when like Insurrection Barbie is doing it. | ||
| They don't have a problem with these people causing storms on Twitter and saying crazy things about like minority law at the fluff that this has created. | ||
| Can't like Fuentes go and like sue like, you know, a bunch of these people. | ||
| No, no, no, he can't. | ||
| And see, that's the beauty of the system is these people, they're the lawyers that run the country. | ||
| So essentially, when you're the lawyers that run the country, you either know the politicians because you went to school with them or you work with or or you have them work for you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's like when you have the money, these people, when you go to become the president of the United States or a senator or a congressman, you don't go and like, I'm an astronaut. | ||
| I'm a firefighter. | ||
| I want to be, I want to be a congressman or a senator. | ||
| No, you go to a law school, you meet the right people, you figure out how to navigate the political system. | ||
| Good looking guy, girl, good head on your shoulders. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Go get your MBA at like a prestigious school where you bump shoulders with this guy's billing and politicians. | ||
| And then that's how it works. | ||
| That's how you run for office. | ||
| And these same people that are in the political office are the people that are in the law firms. | ||
| And it's all one big club. | ||
| You're not in it. | ||
| And they know how to say, hey, like, we got just enough meat on the hook here that we can take this to court and make it horribly ugly for four or five years and just kill this person. | ||
| And it costs us nothing. | ||
| I mean, dude. | ||
| Because he owns the firm, I think. | ||
| The law firm that sued Trump, they got hit with like a $40 million penalty. | ||
| And I don't have that good a memory. | ||
| So I can't recall the exact name of the firm. | ||
| They got hit with a $40 million penalty. | ||
| They expensed a lot of that money as like pro bono work to like charitable causes, suing us. | ||
| Because like that's a charity, you see, to the Sandy Hook families who won a lawsuit for $73 million against Remington, who all has more money than we did. | ||
| But see, it's charity to help them, but it's not even real. | ||
| It's a completely fake story. | ||
| Absurd on its face, but they're able to go walk that up to a judge who's on the team, you know, on the good side. | ||
| And the judge goes, Okay, yeah, we're gonna, let's do this. | ||
| And that's how they bankrupt people. | ||
| I would love to see some of these backdoor conversations, man. | ||
| People who just like the mafia drinks, you know, yeah, it's literally, it's, it's the, it's the mafia, and that's how it works in this country. | ||
| And when people think about organized crime, they think about like a gang member with like, oh, no, not even like, I got a switch, bro, like, or something like that. | ||
| They think about like, you know, like people like MS-13 or something. | ||
| They think about this, just in like the modern era, right? | ||
| What the real organized crime and crime is in the country is these bureaucrat class people that have these law degrees or PhDs and they're in the halls and positions of power or they have all the money and they know everyone. | ||
| And then they can just break the law by using the legal system to break people. | ||
| Because who do you go to when the state has it in for you? | ||
| That's true. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the only time that the people get prosecuted is when the situation is bad enough that the public knows about it, that you just have no choice but to take care of the situation because then you'll topple the whole house of cards at that point. | ||
| Yeah, it's not, it's not worth messing up the system. | ||
| And that's what these people really care about is they go, look, like I was successful in this. | ||
| My children and grandchildren can be successful in this, whether that's making money to feed the system or being inside the system, moving the levers. | ||
| Like we're in here. | ||
| We're not going to move from this. | ||
| I mean, you being from Connecticut, you've seen a lot of that old money and how those people live, right? | ||
| All money, all money. | ||
| Those people are happy to live in Connecticut for the next 1,000 years scamming Americans. | ||
| Like becoming political. | ||
| Careful, you might defame somebody. | ||
| No, the entire state of Connecticut, you can't do that. | ||
| It has to be specific. | ||
| But like Connecticut v. Jones. | ||
| We shouldn't even have to joke and worry about these things as Americans. | ||
| I really believe that the burden of proof for defamation is way too low. | ||
| And you should really have to specifically target someone with malicious intent for it to be a and you have to be able to prove damages. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like that, that's the thing is like, how did she get hurt in any of this? | ||
| They were mean to me on X. | ||
| They hurt my feelings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the part I don't understand about the monetary thing. | ||
| I've always tried to really wrap my head around like how people get to these crazy ass numbers. | ||
| You know, the billion dollars on your, on your dad in Infowars was just out. | ||
| Two? | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| My fault. | ||
| Two billion dollars. | ||
| Two and a half, two and a half. | ||
| Oh, it just keeps going up. | ||
| This is beautiful. | ||
| But like, how do you come to the conclusion that that's the amount? | ||
| When I think about damages, I'm like, okay, I hurt somebody. | ||
| I think it's whatever number makes them laugh the hardest. | ||
| Like, yeah, let's do a billion. | ||
| No, let's do two. | ||
| No, let's do two and a half. | ||
| But how do you prove that that's the equal to equal? | ||
| It's just like the healthcare thing that we talked about on Sunday, where they get to make up whatever they want for whatever treatment. | ||
| That's how the American system works. | ||
| They go, look, it's the free market. | ||
| So you can just charge whatever you want in the legal sense, in the financial sense, all of it. | ||
| It's all done the same way. | ||
| And once you start to understand these things, it becomes very laughable. | ||
| And we don't want to be black pill on here. | ||
| We want to be white pill. | ||
| We want to talk about the future and, you know, working together with other countries and fixing things here on the show. | ||
| We talk about that a lot in the gray area. | ||
| But when you realize how fundamentally broken the American system is, how screwed up it is on so many levels, and it's all done the same way. | ||
| It's all just grifting, right? | ||
| I will say, though, I would rather take even the somewhat dysfunctional system that we have now than live in another, than live in another country that doesn't even have these in place. | ||
| There are certain countries that don't even have even like a sense of a judicial system or just bureaucracy or a system that we're like, you and I know that you're not just going to go out there, clock me in the face because I can sue you for that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But like there's other countries where it's like, well, you know, if that happens, you, you got to take that outside and take care of that. | ||
| Or there's such a backlog of cases for specific things that you can't get through the system in order to actually get the justice you need. | ||
| So I'll say I would rather take, you know, the somewhat dysfunctional, but I think it still is functional when it doesn't come to defamation. | ||
| But in general, I would still take this over some of the other countries. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| I would take it over all the other countries basically on the planet, because if you look at it, America was this place that revolutionized governmental systems across the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And everyone kind of tried to imitate our thing after we showed that, hey, like having a king is maybe not the best idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we imported, especially after the world wars, we imported a lot of our culture all over the world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And these other countries like the UK, like other places like that, that Australia, Western countries, you call them Western, but they've had these crazy free speech crackdowns and censorship law and police brutality and all sorts of stuff like this. | ||
| We were supposed to be the example to those people. | ||
| We were supposed to tell those people to stop it, but we've fallen so much here. | ||
| It's gotten so bad. | ||
| If we don't fix it here, like we have to fix it here. | ||
| I guess we agree on this, right? | ||
| We have to, and that's what we can't be Black Bill. | ||
| It's just when the system's broken on so many levels, this is how these people make money. | ||
| The lawyer makes like 40% of the purse, basically. | ||
| Yeah, they're very rich lawyers. | ||
| Incredibly rich. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure at some point it was a little bit more affordable. | ||
| But again, over time, when you're told, oh, well, this is the option for you to go and handle this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That becomes like, okay, now we can make money off of that because we've basically made it clear that if you don't like what somebody says, go and sue them. | ||
| And they've created the blueprint for that. | ||
| So yes, we are going to be open to the phone. | ||
| Second hour. | ||
| Second hour. | ||
| And maybe a little bit even beyond that because Tim's got a subject he wants to talk about. | ||
| We'll do like a little breakdown of the shutdown. | ||
| That's really what's going to happen after Rex has got one more other thing to cover. | ||
| But I want to inform people on like the details of the government shutdown now that it's in talks of having a resolution pass Congress. | ||
| So yes, we will be open to the phones to answer that question. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just, I still want to talk about this for a little bit, though. | ||
| I mean, you imagine the behavior of these people and they go, look, we're going to screw Americans over forever. | ||
| We're going to sue them forever. | ||
| Tuesday. | ||
| I just want to talk about the lawyers. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The bureaucratic class, the fourth branch of government that actually runs the country. | ||
| We're just going to sue these people forever. | ||
| We're going to keep riding it until the wheels fall off. | ||
| No one's ever going to be able to stop us. | ||
| And look, no one ever will. | ||
| And the thing that's so important about the Alex Jones precedent and what was said against us is you can just render them guilty by default if they don't give you all the evidence that you that you demand that they give you that doesn't exist. | ||
| They requested like 13 million documents and all sorts. | ||
| They give you an impossible task and then say, okay, you're in default judgment. | ||
| You owe a gazillion dollars. | ||
| I'm sadly pretty certain that they're going to do the same thing to Elijah and that it's really going to hurt his operation. | ||
| And I pray for his operation. | ||
| I want his operation to do great. | ||
| He doesn't deserve this. | ||
| But unfortunately, you can't fight these people. | ||
| And even my dad, who was selling, you know, tens of millions of dollars a year in supplements, all that went into legal bills. | ||
| He couldn't even fight the people forever. | ||
| You know, I have a question. | ||
| So if I know the default judgment was like one of the biggest things. | ||
| Let's say like some magical situation happens where he was able to present everything. | ||
| Do you think he would have beat the case? | ||
| Um he'd have a he'd have a lot higher chance. | ||
| And even if he lost the uh that the thing is, he was rendered in default. | ||
| He still the jury trial. | ||
| The jury trial was to decide how guilty he was and he wasn't allowed to present any of his own financial information. | ||
| And just so people understand, well, default trial, explain we talked about that. | ||
| I just went into that, but we'll go into it again. | ||
| But just to be clear, just to finish the point I'm making here, the thing that was really screwed up about our trial, besides the Sandy hook and all this stuff, if you just step away from it from a sec for a second, they had a guy go on the stage and say my dad personally was worth $300 million. | ||
| My dad's never had $10 million, right? | ||
| Probably had more than five, never had 10. | ||
| And the thing is, when you say that sort of thing and the person is in default and they're not allowed to defend themselves, present their tax returns or their financial information, you have the jury there. | ||
| So it's still a jury trial. | ||
| The jury's going to rule based off that number. | ||
| And we were never allowed to financially defend ourselves with the actual documents. | ||
| So that's what was screwed up about our case. | ||
| And that's the hill I will die on. | ||
| And to talk about your point, like what does being put in default mean? | ||
| They requested, I believe it was like 13 million emails from us and all sorts of other things like this that are basically impossible to find within like a very short, like two-week time period. | ||
| And then they go, oh, you don't have it. | ||
| You default. | ||
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| It's basically defaulting to like, you're guilty. | ||
| That's how that works. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's funny, though, that even after they declare that you're liable or guilty, liable in a civil sense, they then go and say, but you still get to have the jury trial to decide just how guilty you are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like at the at that point, just like take a long walk off a short cliff because you're cooked anyway, right? | ||
| You might as well just end it soon because they're just going to railroad you. | ||
| And at the end of the day, I think my dad did really well. | ||
| And I think he fought really hard. | ||
| And I think InfoWars and everyone in the crew fought really hard. | ||
| And we basically got the absolute best case scenario out of any type of situation like this. | ||
| And it was only because of the size of the operation and the skill of the people working there. | ||
| I'm not sure Elijah has the same assets as a skill side, of course, but on the sheer size, a lot of Infowars got burned off. | ||
| Well, talk about the psychology. | ||
| Talk about the psychological impact because the thing is, is when you're going into these trials, it can't be an easy process to be defending yourself or something. | ||
| No, well, now he's got a lawyer. | ||
| He's not just thinking about his show. | ||
| He's thinking about the lawyer. | ||
| He's on phone calls. | ||
| He's thinking about motions and different discoveries, trying to get and trying to prove his case. | ||
| And, you know, their case is so extraordinarily weak. | ||
| If all they have is him retweeting and they're going to rely on his tweets against Israel. | ||
| I mean, maybe he does have a chance. | ||
| I hope he does. | ||
| I'm not trying to be negative here. | ||
| I'm not trying to be Lord Blackpill. | ||
| But at the end of the day, these people have a lot of money. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| Well, not just that. | ||
| You're talking about director level of the FBI. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A lot of money, a lot of influence. | ||
| That's very bad. | ||
| But hey, look, I'm tired, Tim. | ||
| You are a sexist, a racist, and a bigot because you do not appreciate her singing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, is this her song? | ||
| Look, you can't tell me that if you were at the airport. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| I've never heard her sing. | ||
| But really quick, if you were at the airport and you were experiencing, you know, like a 12-hour, a 12-hour wait for a flight that was supposed to be there because our government shut down, the air traffic controllers aren't getting paid. | ||
| So they left and you're down the dumps and you're angry and you're mad and you're like, dang, I missed my flight. | ||
| They're not going to send another one for like half a day. | ||
| You're telling me if she gets up to the mic and starts singing the national anthem, there's not going to be a smile on your face praising Donald Trump and thanking your country. | ||
| It would make me proud to be an American. | ||
| We shouldn't mock the nation. | ||
| We shouldn't mock it. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, look, this is apparently like a global sensation pop star, country music, blah, blah, whatever. | ||
| I don't really see it. | ||
| Just one more and entertain me, one more. | ||
| Is this another? | ||
| This is just her yapping about herself. | ||
| So, Alexis, what are you doing here? | ||
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Why are you at this event? | |
| Why was it important? | ||
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So, I'm here because I am singing the actual anthem and we're doing a show after the amazing speakers. | |
| But I love independent women's form and our bodies are sports. | ||
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We'll program an organization because it is so much further than even sports. | |
| I mean, sports are a huge issue, keeping biological men out of women's sports. | ||
| It not only is dangerous. | ||
| See, she's just working the program. | ||
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Is she famous for no, no one knows who this person is. | |
| It's anti-common sense, and that's something that I think everyone's working really hard to combat right now. | ||
| So, I'm so excited for it. | ||
| Probably, um, and it does, it goes beyond sports. | ||
| And like I said, it just something that, you know, anything that's not commonsensical, we need to be fighting right now. | ||
| And so, that's enough. | ||
| How did he even pull her? | ||
| I mean, she's not. | ||
| I mean, we're not allowed to say when Kanye is saying, I'm not supposed to say that. | ||
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Anyway, he goes, Well, I'm not supposed to say it. | |
| I guess this is what I'll say. | ||
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And what am I doing here? | |
| Yeah, we're not allowed to talk about it. | ||
| But, you know, that's an interesting story. | ||
| We're going to cover more of it. | ||
| I'm going to do more of a deep dive. | ||
| Maybe I'll talk to Elijah. | ||
| You know, there's nothing cooler than seeing, you know, old rivals patch it up. | ||
| So y'all may know the new president of Syria, former ISIS and Al-Qaeda leader by the name of Al-Julani, but he's changed his name to Al-Shara. | ||
| And, you know, he's gone to the UN. | ||
| He's visited the site where the Twin Towers fell. | ||
| He used to be part of Al-Qaeda. | ||
| He used to be a leader. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I thought. | ||
| He used to be a leader. | ||
| But see, the thing is, after 9-11, that's what he wants to make. | ||
| In Islam, here's the thing. | ||
| You shave your mustache when you have a beard, right? | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| He goes in to the United States prison camp for five years. | ||
| He comes out in a beard and a suit and he comes straight to us. | ||
| And he's the new leader. | ||
| He's our new best pal. | ||
| But look, he's playing back. | ||
| This guy's beheaded thousands of people and he's given orders to kill tens of thousands of people. | ||
| And he's plotted against the United States of America. | ||
| Oh, but he's our buddy. | ||
| Look at Jordan. | ||
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Look at the three-pointer. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
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Look at them getting the music in the background. | |
| He's dying. | ||
| I can't believe what I'm seeing. | ||
| Dude, old Bush would roll over in his grave. | ||
| No, I mean, this is always the final goal, right? | ||
| This is a dictator that we control. | ||
| See, they're very specific about not wanting any secular governments remaining in the Levant, in the Middle East. | ||
| This is the perfect guy because he's a radical Muslim that follows the specific radical form of Islam that we created and spoon-fed these people. | ||
| You know why they're doing this? | ||
| Because they think by treating him at the same level of equality, they think they can control him after this. | ||
| It's a psychological thing because they think he's the one that's going to be able to control Syria. | ||
| Who even knows how long that lasts? | ||
| You don't think all the other fractions of the Syrian, like they've been in civil war for like a super long time. | ||
| It's only a matter of time before like the rebellion happens again and the whole clock restarts and we've got to instill a new person. | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| I think we're going to do a pretty good job running it. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's the right guy, man. | ||
| Like, this is the new Osama bin Laden. | ||
| You got to keep in mind, Osama bin Laden was our friend for many years. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right. | ||
| So, like, I'm sure this guy, the thing we always do as a country is we always turn on whoever we install. | ||
| So it's not even them fucking up. | ||
| It's us getting like impatient, like wanting it to get better. | ||
| We turn on them and they fight for power to stay alive. | ||
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Right. | |
| This is what happened with Saddam. | ||
| Like Saddam Hussein was basically created and raised to wage war on Iran because Iraq, Iran, they're right next to each other. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Millions of Iranians died during that war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why he had the weapons. | ||
| They say the chemical weapons and all this stuff. | ||
| Everything that we Saddam had, we gave it to him. | ||
| And then we went in there to take him out. | ||
| Once he wasn't playing the way that we wanted him. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So like, this is what America does as a country. | ||
| This is our foreign policy. | ||
| And they look at this guy like, well, you're tall like Osama bin Laden. | ||
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And we could, we taught you how to speak English. | |
| We go, boy. | ||
| Yeah, literally, like, this is just a creation. | ||
| And look at this guy. | ||
| This is like a CENTCOM commander or something. | ||
| I'm assuming. | ||
| I'm not sure if that's the guy, but he's in the clip. | ||
| This guy probably fought against him and shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And like, now so true. | ||
| Like, now they're, you're my buddy, my buddy. | ||
| You got the three-pointer. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So let's, let's, let's take the macro view from this, right? | ||
| Like, how do you, let's say the whole point is like, we want to have some stability in that region, correct? | ||
| Right. | ||
| How do you end a negative feedback loop? | ||
| Because at the end of the day, most of the issues are caused that somebody got, somebody committed a crime, they got angry, they got upset, they retaliated, and then it's just a nice little cycle. | ||
| Technically, if you want to look at it, and I'm not defending this guy by any means, he was a murderer, but like this would be kind of what you would have to do in order to stop that negative feedback loop of the killing. | ||
| I mean, but like, I didn't think they were going to bring him onto American soil and do that. | ||
| You could still do that from all the way across the world. | ||
| He was in the White House. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was taking pictures in front of New York City. | ||
| It's like, dude, you know, those two towers are there. | ||
| There's a couple interview clips I'm looking for. | ||
| But really quick, I'm looking for this one clip. | ||
| But I mean, on the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps founding, on that day, Trump is like, we're going to bring him in. | ||
| We're going to bring Osab 2.0 in. | ||
| And it's going to be great. | ||
| He's going to stand behind the desk and do everything. | ||
| I wonder what the military people think about. | ||
| I mean, they can't like it. | ||
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I don't. | |
| I can't imagine they would, especially the veterans. | ||
| I mean, the ones that were involved. | ||
| I mean, the people currently serving that don't have like history on this or don't like remember this time period too well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could you imagine, though, like during the time where like he's fighting America, the type of conversations he would have about America and what he felt and his true intentions about it? | ||
| I just, you can't just glaze over that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, what are, what are you looking for here? | ||
| I'm looking for some clips. | ||
| And I don't know why it's so hard. | ||
| Just keep talking for just no, but it just, it just blows my mind that it only took, you know, 25 years for America to get amnesia about everything that happened. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| If you go back to 2001, this is one of those things that like, if you were to ask a typical American of that time, or even if you go to like 2005, they'd be like, this would be unspeakable. | ||
| There's no way we would do something like this. | ||
| But then, you know, fast forward 25 years, this is what we have. | ||
| We completely forgot about everything that happened. | ||
| And who even knows what his true intentions are at the end of the day? | ||
| Now, I don't want to get too much. | ||
| He wants to get rich. | ||
| Yeah, but like, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, maybe he's like, oh, well, if I have America on my side, they take me legitimate and I just want to be power. | ||
| I want to have power and I want to rule this country. | ||
| But the real question is, do the people of Syria want him in power? | ||
| That's the thing I don't actually know the answer to. | ||
| That's the thing I don't understand. | ||
| Well, I'm looking for clips of him. | ||
| And, you know, I've seen a ton of great clips for him, but let's see. | ||
| Let's see what this guy was saying when he's still dressing like a Muslim. | ||
| And this isn't referring to the current conflict, guys. | ||
| This has been going on for decades. | ||
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This is an old clip. | |
| He's clearly a very smart guy. | ||
| That's what I take from that. | ||
| He's well-spoken, strategic. | ||
| He's calm. | ||
| He's personable. | ||
| This is all stuff that we know. | ||
| But, you know, I wasn't able to find the clips that I was trying to find. | ||
| That's because we got here a little late today. | ||
| Let's go ahead and get into your stuff, Tim. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So this one's going to be about the government shutdown. | ||
| As you guys know, and I'm sure you guys have seen the news. | ||
| We are ending the government shutdown tentatively. | ||
| Everything has not been passed yet as of right now. | ||
| Only thing that has been passed right now is the Senate. | ||
| So let me give you a quick overview. | ||
| So 43 days. | ||
| That's how long this shutdown has lasted. | ||
| Technically, even if they take a couple more days, this might turn out to be like 45 days. | ||
| Still a longest shutdown by far. | ||
| And then you need the 60-40 vote. | ||
| They basically convinced eight Democrats to move over and basically vote on this issue to vote in favor of what the Republicans wanted of this new bill. | ||
| And you know what's crazy? | ||
| The Democrats are pissed. | ||
| The ones that were like really true and blue, they didn't like this at all, guys. | ||
| No, they wanted it to keep going on because they were like, we're getting to him. | ||
| We're doing something. | ||
| And they were 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100% they were. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now, I mean, after you get the 60-40 vote, they got the 60 exactly. | ||
| You had 52 Republicans. | ||
| You had eight Democrats. | ||
| And then now this bill is going to head to the House of Representatives where the Republicans already hold a majority. | ||
| It's not the same as the Senate where you need that 60-40 split. | ||
| So that just means that most more than likely, yes, the bill will get passed. | ||
| Then it'll go from the House and then it'll go immediately to Trump's desk and he will sign this. | ||
| You know, interesting little thing that's in that bill, they are banning all of the like the farm bill loophole with the THC stuff. | ||
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| That's in there as well. | ||
| Yeah, there's like 300 pages. | ||
| So they pass these giant omnibus packages. | ||
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Right. | |
| Put everything in. | ||
| Stuff in little things here and there that people have to go and find fine-tune. | ||
| And especially if you're trying to rush it. | ||
| I'm sure all these people try to put it in Chat GPT and be like, give me the breakdown of this. | ||
| But overall, what you need to know, what's inside the deal, it isn't actually a full-year budget. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a temporary funding measure, guys. | ||
| It's called a continuing resolution, a CR. | ||
| They call it a clean CR, but it basically just keeps the government moving in order for them to just get when the corpse falls over. | ||
| They just hit it with cats until like, ooh, like a fucking science monster. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Please talk. | ||
| Like, no, eat the money. | ||
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| Like, stay alive. | ||
| So, with this continuing resolution, here are some of the details. | ||
| I didn't know about this THC loophole. | ||
| There's a ton of other stuff in. | ||
| Basically, this spending only goes until January 30th of 2026. | ||
| By January 30th of 2026, which is about two months from now, guys, we will be seeing the same battle play out. | ||
| Now, let's go into a little bit of the details of what's in this. | ||
| And by then, the Obamacare will go. | ||
| Yeah, so you've got military construction veterans affair. | ||
| They're covering hospitals, benefits, defense infrastructure. | ||
| Department of Agriculture and the FDA ensuring food inspections, farm programs, and nutrition remain stable. | ||
| You've got legislative branch. | ||
| So they're keeping Congress fully operational until the next fiscal year. | ||
| And then there's also several worker protections and stabilizers. | ||
| So you've got like the back pay for unemployed, I mean, for the unemployed federal employees. | ||
| You've got the ban on mass layoffs by federal agencies. | ||
| And then you've got reimbursement of the states who had been paying into these programs. | ||
| And then you also had additional money for the Indian health services and security upgrades for Congress and the federal courts. | ||
| Now, the biggest sticking point of this entire thing, and we broke it down on the last episode, it was Obamacare. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| For people who need a slight refresher, I won't dive very deep into this, but essentially the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, same thing. | ||
| It all came down to one thing, and it was the Republicans wanted to go back to the old way Obamacare used to function. | ||
| In the old way, there was a cliff in which certain amount of people, as soon as you made over a certain amount of money, threshold, even a dollar after, you completely lost the benefits. | ||
| Democrats wanted to keep the new version that Biden had moved into in 2021 and was set to expire in 2025. | ||
| And that new spending bill basically created no cliff at that time period. | ||
| And people were getting subsidies to help pay for the medical, their medical care. | ||
| And that's kind of the gist of what was happening. | ||
| If you're husband and wife and you both make 45,000 or more a year, you're going to pay around 22 grand a year. | ||
| So the number, I'll give you the numbers. | ||
| So the numbers is like, okay, everything goes around the federal poverty level. | ||
| That number is about 21,000. | ||
| Basically, if you've got a couple that is making $90,000 a year, that puts them at 400% above the poverty level. | ||
| And with the subsidy, essentially that couple was getting a pretty big subsidy where they only had to pay around like $600 a month. | ||
| Soon as the Republicans go back to the old version, $2,200. | ||
| It goes up to $1,800 a month. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Immediate, immediate increase. | ||
| And so that is what the Democrats are very upset about. | ||
| And they did not like that at all. | ||
| But in this particular package, the Obamacare is not being addressed really. | ||
| The Republicans are promising that, you know, they were basically stonewalling, man. | ||
| They were like, we're not going to move on this issue until you just pass this resolution. | ||
| We'll figure it out afterwards. | ||
| You know, I'll put air quotations. | ||
| We're not going to do anything. | ||
| But the whole thing was, is they were like, that's actually the reason why those eight Democrats moved over because they were like, dude, they're not going to vote on this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They're not going to actually move the needle. | ||
| And we're going to get deeper and deeper into this problem. | ||
| So we might as well just go and vote. | ||
| And that's what made some of the true blue Democrats very upset in the circumstance. | ||
| So they're not voting on really the issue surrounding Obamacare. | ||
| They did say in this bill, though, that they are going to vote by the second week of December on whether they're going to extend those ACA subsidies. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But in reality, the issue hasn't changed like you had just said. | ||
| It's most likely that that is going to go and fail. | ||
| But one of the reasons why they extended it to January 30th is because that gets us outside of that travel holiday season. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's pull for some of the videos. | ||
| Yeah, let's just watch this one of what was starting to happen when all this shutdown was happening. | ||
| This is the Sean Duffy. | ||
| He's a transportation secretary. | ||
| He's in charge. | ||
| Dude, Judge's replacement. | ||
| And then he's talking to Jake Tapper. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I paid experienced controllers to stay on the job and not retire. | ||
| I used to have about four controllers retire a day before the shutdown. | ||
| I'm now up to 15 to 20 a day are retiring. | ||
| So it's going to be harder for me to come back after the shutdown and have more controllers controlling the airspace. | ||
| So this is going to live on in air travel well beyond the timeframe that this government opens back up. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Pause that. | ||
| So you can't fly. | ||
| That is a that is a huge thing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yes, we had shut down 10% of the air travel at the biggest 40 major airports. | ||
| Luckily, Austin wasn't affected, but even if you have a layover, you'll still be affected, even if you go through like Atlanta or you go through Dallas. | ||
| But overall, what he said at the end is super important, guys. | ||
| Just because they've made a deal now and they've passed this resolution does not mean that the issue is over. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because when you have a guy that retires, he's gone. | ||
| That doesn't mean he's coming back. | ||
| That means I'm going to go take my pension. | ||
| I'm going to go relax because I don't want to have to deal with that. | ||
| And a TSA controller, it takes a while to train these people. | ||
| Guys, you're talking about one of the most critical jobs in the United States that requires a lot of diligence, a lot of focus, a lot of concentration. | ||
| And imagine trying to do that job while you know you're not getting your money and you're not even being able to support your family and you're stressed out and you're hearing all these things on the news. | ||
| I wouldn't blame them. | ||
| And do we want those people to be in that position? | ||
| The people that control where the planes land and where they take off in the airspace and all that. | ||
| No, we don't want those people to be stressed out. | ||
| And it's so stupid to me that we've entered into a realm of such degradation with our technology that we're like, hey, we don't have people to run this, people that are qualified are quitting. | ||
| What are we going to do about it? | ||
| You know, like, we're going to figure it out. | ||
| We're not even going to pay them. | ||
| You know, like, like, it should be a matter of national security. | ||
| To me, I was thinking, and like, obviously, this isn't what we want, but shouldn't the military, you know, be involved at a certain level or what do you mean? | ||
| National Guard? | ||
| I mean, like, you're going to need skilled engineer technician type people, right? | ||
| And when you say, should they be involved to like help out with the TSA people? | ||
| Are you saying like TSA? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Air traffic specifically. | ||
| I know you're talking about TSA here, but with the air traffic controllers, I just like, we don't have enough for those people. | ||
| That needs to be prioritized, in my opinion. | ||
| I mean, well, they're finding difficulty. | ||
| You know, even before this, the industry on the air traffic controllers was already strained as it was because those guys go through a high level of stress. | ||
| And if you guys have noticed, the delays have been increasing across the board. | ||
| I don't know when the last time you flown out, but in general, there's November. | ||
| In general, the whole ecosystem of transportation and especially the aviation, tons of issues have been going on there with delays and things like that. | ||
| And it's because there's so much traffic and you're not increasing the capacity to handle all that traffic. | ||
| But the reason why they passed this bill was literally not because of the snap benefits, because people were starving. | ||
| It was literally because of this was the number one issue. | ||
| It was the fact that you had a lot of people that were getting really pissed off and you were starting to affect not just average people. | ||
| And people that are important fly a lot. | ||
| Yes, you're going to start affecting rich people. | ||
| And I imagine who's on the phone who doesn't have the private jet, whose flight got canceled, was like, you guys better figure this out. | ||
| So ultimately, this was one of the main reasons. | ||
| Now, Bernie Sanders flies, I've seen him at Airport. | ||
| I've seen him at LAX. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Was that the video where you guys go out? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, but, like, the point is, is like these people, especially politicians, they do fly commercial. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they fly commercial all the time. | ||
| And so, yeah, that is the number one reason. | ||
| Now, let me see what else I have here. | ||
| Do you want to play this clip real quick while you look? | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is this is the one. | ||
| This will carry on with the point that Tim's making. | ||
| Let's come back to work. | ||
| And it's muted. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or it's just really quiet. | ||
| Oh, to be clear. | ||
| No, it's muted. | ||
| Go ahead, Tim. | ||
| Just keep talking. | ||
| I'll figure it out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, with this, basically, they like we had read in the bill, you got to get back pay. | ||
| So I think what he's trying to say is that 70% of the air traffic controllers will receive their pay within 48 hours. | ||
| That's one of the things that they passed in 2019, by the way, is everybody who needed to get back paid or who didn't get paid. | ||
| It used to be it probably took longer. | ||
| In this circumstance, the audio is just messed up with that specific clip, I think. | ||
| Because let's see if this one works. | ||
| Okay, it's just that one. | ||
| No worries. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| But ultimately, they passed the bill in like 2019. | ||
| After the first time that the government shut down, essentially this new law states that the government, and I think I have a post that's pulled up. | ||
| Let's go to the article. | ||
| The Yahoo article. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Next one. | ||
| Next one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this 2019 law, can you read this for us? | ||
| Under the 2019 law, workers who miss paychecks during a lapse in federal funding must be paid retroactively as soon as the shutdown ends. | ||
| So they get the big pay chunk right there. | ||
| And then it directs agencies to issue back pay at the earliest date possible, absolute lapse and appropriations ends, regardless of how scheduled pay or scheduled pay dates. | ||
| That's what happened after the 2018 to 19 shutdown and prior shutdowns. | ||
| Back pay has been paid at the earliest date possible after appropriations have been passed, regardless of scheduled pay dates. | ||
| So they just give them the money. | ||
| Yeah, because the thing is, is imagine they're like, oh, technically payday was Friday. | ||
| You've got to wait another two weeks. | ||
| That's how it kind of, that's how it used to be: is like, we got to stay on schedule. | ||
| But when they came out with this law, this is a win, guys. | ||
| This one's a win. | ||
| This law, whoever came out with this one, props to you because this was a very good one. | ||
| But, you know, 48 hours, you get your money, you get your back pay. | ||
| That should provide immediate relief. | ||
| And then here's the thing. | ||
| Economists estimate from this shutdown, we've already cut 0.8% of fourth quarter GDP, which is about $55 billion lost in output. | ||
| That's a lot of money, guys. | ||
| So the thing is, is like the damage is already done. | ||
| And all we did was kick the can down the road in this circumstance. | ||
| One thing we can also still cover is the snap benefits. | ||
| Let's pull up the Yahoo article. | ||
| So with snap benefits, I know people were wondering about this one. | ||
| So if the government reopens, snap is refunded, the payment should resume as normal, but there is delays and there are confusions. | ||
| And also, by the way, it depends on state to state. | ||
| Not all of them will get it at the exact same time. | ||
| If your state is very good at this, you'll probably get it sooner. | ||
| I heard someone use EBT at Randall's today, but it may have been money there. | ||
| But they could have already had money. | ||
| But it depends on, I know Texas is one of the ones that's going on the faster side to get these reinstated to people. | ||
| But ultimately, snap benefits are going to come through. | ||
| I know there was that whole thing going back between the Supreme Court and the partial payments and all that stuff that was going to be put through the court system and the judicial branch going back and forth. | ||
| But again, going back to the macro level argument, January 30th, this same issue will come up. | ||
| And even before then, they are going to have to debate about this two weeks into December. | ||
| That's just a month from now. | ||
| Now, Rex, do you think our politicians are going to be able to get their act together? | ||
| No, I think they're going to go on Christmas vacation and it'll still be unsolved. | ||
| And then we'll come back this again in the new year. | ||
| We're seeing the added thing of the subsidies being taken away on the Obamacare front. | ||
| So it'll be a giant, huge mess. | ||
| And, you know, I think it really bodes poorly for the Trump administration because, you know, you can say it's only, he's only been there a little while. | ||
| You got to give him a chance. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| But it's been a year and the wars are getting out of control. | ||
| The inflation is getting out of control. | ||
| And now the government itself is shutting down because, you know, the money printer, they're having to run it for all these things like Ukraine, all these things that we're having to pay for overseas in our military to boot. | ||
| And they're going to have to find some more cash, right? | ||
| Just print it. | ||
| Find some more. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| You just print it. | ||
| But hey, that inflation is going to go up. | ||
| And, you know, all the talk of Biden, whatnot, I could see us at 5% inflation at some point next year. | ||
| Well, it could happen. | ||
| If we go to war. | ||
| If we go to war, we have to deal with this as well. | ||
| You see what I'm saying? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| The crunch on the economy that comes from like war is never a good thing, guys. | ||
| It ends up having and messing up a lot of the infrastructure and the back end. | ||
| Well, it's good if you own Raytheon stock and stuff. | ||
| And that's what matters to the leaders in our country. | ||
| So I think it is good. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And I'm seeing, you know, I'm seeing some things that he's trying to do as some wins. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, I see where you're trying to go here. | ||
| You've got the 50-year mortgage. | ||
| That's one of the things that we're seeing. | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| Dude, let's go get our 50-year mortgage. | ||
| Like, you're chilling with the boys. | ||
| You're having a white claw. | ||
| You're sitting on the couch. | ||
| Dude, let's give you a 50-year mortgage, man. | ||
| Like, it's so insane. | ||
| Like, what are you going to pay like 70% debt basically off of that? | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| So let's break this down a little bit. | ||
| I am pretty big on real estate, but when it comes down to this, and the best, the very best. | ||
| Best properties. | ||
| Now, me and my business partner, we definitely have some opposing views in certain aspects to this 50-year. | ||
| If you're an investor, it makes a little bit more sense in the way that he broke it down for me. | ||
| It made sense. | ||
| Like, if you were to get a 50-year loan, let's say as an investor, it would make your monthly payment lower in theory, right? | ||
| And technically, you have an appreciating asset, which would be increasing over time, even though technically you're paying debt, but somebody's paying your mortgage and paying your rent anyways, right? | ||
| You're not living out of that house. | ||
| So, it's like you have to. | ||
| Right, but you're speaking about it from a business perspective. | ||
| That's a business, but the average money, someone's own living. | ||
| But an average person, yeah, as an average person, this is not a good idea. | ||
| And let me explain that. | ||
| But really quick, you see how all the goodies and the favors that we get, like the good things that Trump does. | ||
| We hear about this all the time. | ||
| My dad talks about it all the time. | ||
| He goes, the good, Trump's doing good, good stuff. | ||
| The good stuff he does is in order for people that are worth a little bit of money or understand the system to be able to grift harder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| And, and here's the thing. | ||
| So when you make a loan, okay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The 30-year is something that was not always a thing and it became the standard. | ||
| Like over 90% of home loans now in the United States are literally 30-year fixed mortgages because that's the normal thing. | ||
| But there's like a bunch of things you can get. | ||
| You can get a variable rate. | ||
| You can get a 15-year mortgage where you're going to be paying more, but 30 has been the standard overall. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so that is what like the banks have built around. | ||
| The whole system has been built around this 30-year. | ||
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Okay. | |
| When you increase that to 50 years, okay. | ||
| When you increase it to 50 years, what ends up happening is that loan becomes more risky. | ||
| And the reason why it becomes more risky is because there's a lot more unknown factors. | ||
| And the longer you hold on to a debt, the riskier it becomes. | ||
| So what people, what mortgage companies do is when you have an increased loan, it typically leads to a larger interest rate because they want to get paid more money up front for having more of a risky loan that lasts longer. | ||
| Normally, if you get a 15-year mortgage, you're going to get a lower interest rate than you would as a 30-year. | ||
| So I see people making the macro argument as just regular people who are, they're like, oh, well, if I get the same 6.5% loan I have right now, and then I extend it into 50 years, I can technically get a cheaper principal on my mortgage. | ||
| Well, that's true if you're saying it's the same 6.5 and 6.5, but imagine that 6.5 becomes 7.5 because that loan is riskier. | ||
| Now you've increased the interest rate and that actually increases your monthly payment. | ||
| You could actually be paying the same, if not more potentially, when you go through the specifics of the numbers. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, seems to me like you rent, you're paying the landlord. | ||
| Why not just graduate to paying the bank? | ||
| Just pay the bank rent. | ||
| Well, this would be a scenario where you wouldn't even, you would die and that debt would go to your kids after 50 years. | ||
| Ooh, that's even better. | ||
| Oh, man, that's even sweeter. | ||
| We got to have that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We got to have it. | ||
| Like, here's the thing. | ||
| Let's say you're already like in your 40s. | ||
| You get a 50-year mortgage and you refinance that baby. | ||
| It's like, dude, okay. | ||
| You might live the 90, but like the chances that you're going to be, most people hold on to houses for only 12 years, by the way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that's how I feel. | ||
| The one that's really, really stupid and don't ever do this, guys, is the 15-year car car loan. | ||
| I don't even understand. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| I don't even understand. | ||
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I'm going to be driving this in almost two decades. | |
| Look, if you're talking about depreciating assets, at least the house is like offsetting the cost. | ||
| A car is like, that is the worst thing you can do because I already have an issue with people getting eight. | ||
| It's already gone up to eight now. | ||
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Right. | |
| You can get an eight-year loan, even though your car might not even last that long. | ||
| You own your vehicle, you make a payment. | ||
| I make a payment. | ||
| I used to own a vehicle, and then I decided, you know what, I don't want to pay a lump sum, and it makes more strategic for me to have more flexibility. | ||
| Exactly, because then you can use that money, you have that capital, you can go invest it rather than just giving it to the bank and having them and basically having it sit in a depreciating asset. | ||
| But that's like the entrepreneur, not everybody has to do that way. | ||
| The average person is typically just going to go and get a nice little loan. | ||
| 30-year car 15. | ||
| 30-year. | ||
| That's what I got. | ||
| We need it now. | ||
| We need it now. | ||
| I think Trump was actually hinting at that. | ||
| I think he no, no, no. | ||
| 30 would be absolutely. | ||
| I swear I saw that. | ||
| I've seen the 15. | ||
| I've seen the idea of the 15. | ||
| Don't ever do that, guys. | ||
| I literally would go and slap you silly if I like. | ||
| I'll go find you. | ||
| I'll go into your car dealership. | ||
| Yeah, Tim's angry. | ||
| I'll go to your car dealership right as soon as you're about to sign that paper and slap you silly because you'll be under on that car note by the time you end up paying that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Um, but I think we should start taking some calls pretty soon. | ||
| Yeah, we should. | ||
| Uh, you want to set that up and uh I'll take some uh comments here. | ||
| You know, I'll go ahead and read them. | ||
| So, what up, info ninjas? | ||
| Hey, T Blood, how are you doing tonight? | ||
| Let me know when you want you scroll. | ||
| Anything over four years on a car is nuts. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Uh, sometimes it makes sense to go five. | ||
| Um, five is like the average six, you can get away with it. | ||
| Um, but like, oh, I would anticipate you should just pay that off earlier if you can. | ||
| Alabama cut off most, referring to the EBT, going to take six weeks from what a customer told me today. | ||
| Everyone is going to have to be re-evaluated. | ||
| Just what I heard. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| That would suck. | ||
| That's that's awful. | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| Um, you want me to scroll? | ||
| Yeah, if you would. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Shutdowns reveal the cracks in the machine. | ||
| Very true, Samantha. | ||
| Very true. | ||
| Did Obama get recommended to the DH DOJ by the DNI Tulsi Gabbard Rex, Tim? | ||
| Ah, I don't, I don't know. | ||
| I don't understand the question. | ||
| Uh, did Obama get recommended like for indictment? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like, I don't think they're going to touch Obama. | ||
| Obama was president. | ||
| And, like, what we've seen is like, if you're the president's wife, you're Hillary Clinton, even if you're a senator, they leave you alone. | ||
| And, like, they're all criminals. | ||
| They're all complicit in the same stuff. | ||
| It doesn't matter, Democrat, Republican. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's two wings on the same bird, man. | ||
| But like, that's that's 100% the truth. | ||
| Let's go, America. | ||
| Agree, let's go, America. | ||
| They could go back to paper books of food stamps to reduce the fraud in EDT rackets. | ||
| Please scroll up a little bit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm a vet. | ||
| This is disgusting. | ||
| Referring to Al Grelani. | ||
| What's up, Sky? | ||
| Butchered hundreds of Christians, thousands, thousands of Christians, Muslims too, the Muslims he didn't like. | ||
| And Alawites and Drews, leader of Al-Qaeda, and Trump treats him like gold. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, like, hey, he's playing the White House. | ||
| I mean, I bet Trump loves it. | ||
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You are now in the host room and can manage your colors from the Collins Studio web interface. | |
| All right, keep going. | ||
| You scroll up a little bit. | ||
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Sorry. | |
| It's real professional show. | ||
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All right. | |
| Keep going. | ||
| Here, scroll up a little bit more. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| You scroll down. | ||
| Too far. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Any dog camp tonight? | ||
| Yeah, I think he's whoa. | ||
| This is the best angle you guys have. | ||
| You can't say his name or he'll wake up. | ||
| This is the best angle that you guys have gotten of him up till now. | ||
| We'll look at Rupert for a little while. | ||
| He's actually behaving tonight. | ||
| Abortion of justice, I agree. | ||
| You're going to open the phone. | ||
| So, yeah, we're about to do that. | ||
| Lawsuits still take a lot of money. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'll talk about that for a little bit while we work on stuff here. | ||
| It's so crazy to be able to just take someone to court forever without any, you know, like you don't have to prove your case really. | ||
| If you have the money, you can just sue someone with like the barest thread of anything proving the legitimacy of your case. | ||
| I mean, there should be a verification process of legitimacy. | ||
| There should be something, I believe, raising an evidence standard. | ||
| At the end of the day, they're going to take Elijah for a ride. | ||
| They're going to get a lot of time and money out of him. | ||
| And like, even if he wins, right? | ||
| So there's a root. | ||
| Oh, he woke up. | ||
| He woke up. | ||
| He heard you. | ||
| All right, guys. | ||
| We're about to put up the number for you guys so that you guys can call in. | ||
| Be back shortly. | ||
| see what we got here the uh owl killer talking about the economic owl killer is a legendary infowars caller What's up, man? | ||
| Are you on the air with us? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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So, yeah, I'm just dealing with this new system you guys got. | |
| So it said something about a beep. | ||
| So I guess I'm on. | ||
| Can you guys hear him in the comments? | ||
| Yeah, really quick. | ||
| Just doing a sound check. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I appreciate you calling in, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, for sure, Rex. | ||
| You know, you definitely give a, and your partner, both of you give a different perspective from the conservative standpoint. | ||
| And I, I do want to say something that there's a YouTuber by the name of Jesse on Fire. | ||
| Are you familiar with him at all? | ||
| I am. | ||
| Yeah, MMA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he was just playing a clip about a five-minute segment that your dad did the other day talking about how, you know, Trump needs to stop referring to what's happening as the Democrats. | ||
| And, you know, we know it's both sides, but them being dumb and it's actually deliberate. | ||
| I don't know if you caught that. | ||
| And what he was referring to was the fact that we are in end stage capitalism, basically. | ||
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| Where just like the game Monopoly and they're playing in that video that he was playing of your father, he's going over how your father says that they own about 80%, but that's not enough for them. | ||
| They want to own all 100%. | ||
| And I think that is something that Elon Musk realized when he was doing Doge, because if you ever listen to the interviews he gives post his Doge experience, he's saying that the only hope is for AI to make us a whole bunch of money so we can pay that debt off. | ||
| Have you heard him say that, basically? | ||
| I have not seen that clip. | ||
| I've actually, I've heard him say similar things about having the AI make the money to solve the problem. | ||
| I think he said it multiple times. | ||
| I mean, they did not want him in there. | ||
| They got him out of there as fast as they could. | ||
| Because he stepped on certain people's toes and stepped on somebody who was making money somewhere and that pissed them off. | ||
| It was too big of a beast for him to tackle. | ||
| You know, and for sure. | ||
| And so you see what's going. | ||
| You know, Steve Bannon has said that he agreed with the economic recovery plan. | ||
| However, the point of lowering the tax rates on the billionaire class, and that got me thinking of actually doing that, that theirs should have gone up. | ||
| Now, I'm a capitalist across the board, but what we are seeing is not capitalism. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's really not capitalism. | ||
| And my wife is originally from Dominican Republic. | ||
| And as you know, a lot of Latin American countries, specifically in the 80s, went communist. | ||
| And the reason that happened was because we installed a bunch of puppets in these Latin American countries. | ||
| One of the countries we overthrew twice was Dominican Republic. | ||
| And what happens is the people say the people look, well, we're being told that's capitalism. | ||
| Then we want the opposite. | ||
| And that's what you're seeing with like, I know people are making a big deal of the Mom Donnie win in New York City. | ||
| I'm really not that surprised he won. | ||
| And also when it comes to a state like New Jersey, where I'm originally from, they on a national level, they may be, it may be closer Republican. | ||
| I wouldn't surprise me if Republican wins on the national level. | ||
| But at the end of the day, there's a lot of state workers and they don't want their pensions touched. | ||
| So it doesn't surprise me that New Jersey went red. | ||
| I mean, went blue. | ||
| And same thing when it comes to Virginia, where I live now. | ||
| Winsom's a great woman. | ||
| She was a terrible candidate and they ate her alive in all the ads. | ||
| Like anytime you were watching something on like Hulu, they would be running ads against her and they really made her out to be basically unelectable. | ||
| But I think those things are just symptoms. | ||
| What is going to happen is this move towards people there, the wealth gap is just too much. | ||
| And I don't think anybody wants to say it. | ||
| Like your generation, I'm 42. | ||
| You guys don't owe us anything. | ||
| And for the most part, you guys don't have a few, you know, for the most. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| There is no future. | ||
| Yeah, I went to Randall's today to pick up some like wet dog food for my grandma. | ||
| And I went to buy some milk because I was there at the same time. | ||
| And one thing of milk is 575. | ||
| That's that's Texas. | ||
| I remember when it was like two bucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, the level of inflation and a level of you not being able to own anything, you not being able to get out of the rent economy, you never being able to escape that or own a home or yeah, you get a 50-year mortgage. | ||
| The thing that really bothers me is that you can be in Austin, you can be driving down South Lamar and you can see someone wearing like, you know, a gadget watch and like AirPods, like the nicest athleisure wear and all that, wearing essentially like a thousand or two thousand dollars on themselves running down the street. | ||
| And then a homeless guy is sitting right there with like open wounds festering, bleeding on drugs. | ||
| So what were you going to say, Tim? | ||
| I was going to say we're living like one of the biggest oxymorons of our generation. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It has never been easier to get rich and it's never been more difficult to get rich. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These two things can't exist in the same situation. | ||
| Well, it's because of the system and the system is set up for grifting and for fraud. | ||
| I think there was a Goldilocks period. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| We've hit the AI AI stage and there's more opportunity for us. | ||
| We didn't, we, when you were 42, you wanted to go research something. | ||
| You didn't have Google. | ||
| You know, you didn't have all the internet and you didn't have the resources to just have access to information. | ||
| So the part about like, okay, I wouldn't say like, oh, I want to be born 50 years ago because it was actually kind of more difficult if you didn't have access to information to even know where to go invest, where to go buy, where to go actually do the things that it took to get yourself out of whatever lower in class and income situation that you were in. | ||
| But now people are running into the issue where they're like, well, I need extra money in order to actually invest. | ||
| It's impossible to live. | ||
| It's too expensive to live. | ||
| We talked about medical bills and emergency room visits. | ||
| You go to the emergency room, they're going to ask you for $1,000. | ||
| And this is how it works in America. | ||
| And most people, they live paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| They cannot afford this. | ||
| And just, I know you got a point here. | ||
| I got to make this statement. | ||
| And like Owl Killer, like I know you're an Infowars listener and viewer and supporter. | ||
| We cannot even think of a midterm victory or a victory in 2028 if people cannot eat. | ||
| And this is the problem. | ||
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| Right. | ||
| This is the real issue. | ||
| And, you know, we can talk about the planes and the glitz and the glamour and the talking heads and all the people that run society or in government. | ||
| None of that matters when people can't eat. | ||
| And people make fun of my dad with the cannibal clip about how he's going to eat people. | ||
| Like we got the sound bite right here. | ||
| I will eat your ass. | ||
| Like if people don't have food for seven days, they start killing for food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is this is very real. | ||
| And you say, oh, this could never happen in America. | ||
| You're talking about those Latin American countries. | ||
| Plenty of horrible things have happened there due to resource scarcity. | ||
| That could happen here. | ||
| I believe it's coming here. | ||
| What's your take, Tim? | ||
| My whole thing is, is like at this point, and we'll come back to you in a second. | ||
| I just want to make this very clear. | ||
| One of the reasons why, you know, it took me a lot of inertia to get to where I am in my life today. | ||
| And I'm very grateful for all the opportunities, but I had to do some really unorthodox things that I probably wouldn't have to do back in the day. | ||
| When I graduated, I didn't take a job in the East Coast because I knew my cost of living was going to be way too high. | ||
| I moved into the middle of Kansas, got a job that paid me the same as East Coast, offset my cost of living. | ||
| I worked an engineering job and I worked as a server on the weekends. | ||
| And on Fridays, I worked literally 17-hour days. | ||
| If you don't believe me, go ask my family, go ask my coworkers. | ||
| They knew I was working 80-hour weeks in order to pay off my student debt in order to even afford to invest in my first property. | ||
| And here's the thing: I only had the ability to do that because I'm young, I have the energy, I don't have any kids, and I don't have any, you know, anything tying any knowledge of how to use the societal system. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I also had some people that were giving me good advice. | ||
| Now, not everybody has the perfect equation. | ||
| Now, if I had a kid or if I had two kids or I had a wife or I had specific obligations, first equation doesn't happen. | ||
| I'm not moving all the way to Kansas because my whole family and everybody exists in, and not everybody can take that leap. | ||
| So I don't expect the average person to go out there and take the most drastic steps when they've already had a certain baseline level that makes it more difficult. | ||
| And they're not the single male that can just go and play GTA on free free agent mode. | ||
| And I think, and we want to get back to the caller owl killer here in a second. | ||
| I think we think about this and me too. | ||
| Like, like I have some country experience, but we're suburban people, you know, at the end of the day, right? | ||
| I wouldn't call myself a city person, but I'm definitely like a suburbian person. | ||
| Like I've lived in neighborhoods for most of my life, right? | ||
| And you go out to the country and you see how people live in these towns that people forgot. | ||
| And the only option is like Jack in the Box, McDonald's, Dairy Queen, and Dollar Tree. | ||
| Like this is all you have access to. | ||
| You're out in the absolute middle of nowhere. | ||
| And a lot of the country, like 30, 40% of that country is in that situation. | ||
| They're all spread out over America. | ||
| And your bills just keep going up for energy, electricity, gas, insurance, food, anything you can think of. | ||
| The bill is just going up year after year after year. | ||
| And you talk about, you know, hustling and working really hard and working 80-hour weeks and just figuring a way out for upward mobility. | ||
| These people, they don't have the concept of that. | ||
| It is literally a world that is frozen in time. | ||
| It is so weird to go out to the American or especially to the Texan countryside and you see places that used to be, you know, just tightened industry, just dead. | ||
| And you're like, huh, like, what happened here? | ||
| Well, it's very simple. | ||
| It got more costly to live in the country. | ||
| It got more easy to sell your farm off to, you know, a big corporation that would just get rid of you because you're competition. | ||
| And it became easy for city people to go, hey, our money's worth a lot more there than it is here. | ||
| We're making all it just to live here. | ||
| We can go out there and buy your land from. | ||
| So like, this is what we see, right? | ||
| And what did you see out there? | ||
| What's your, well, I, I'll just say I'll uh I'll come back to that question. | ||
| I want to give Alex Killer some love. | ||
| What, what is your standpoint on some of the things that we're saying here? | ||
| Well, you know, just yesterday, you guys were hitting on the healthcare issue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like the issue is that there is nobody offering a solution. | ||
| Back in the, in the, when the renaissance happened in Europe, the wealthy, the, the, the wealthy doubled down on humanity and they funded libraries and they funded infrastructure and they funded um schools. | ||
| Even the Rockefellers funded projects in the United States. | ||
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Right. | |
| No, all it seems now all they're doing. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| You know, like one of the reasons they don't like Trump is because Trump is a builder. | ||
| Somebody like a Michael Bloomberg or an app or a Jeff Bezos or a Zuckerberg, they don't produce a product. | ||
| It's like they're living in a virtual reality where the money just like it's just a computer entry. | ||
| And all I see the people in upper society doing is sucking money out of basically away from the people. | ||
| I just saw something with United Airlines where they're firing like 20% of their work. | ||
| I'm pretty sure it's United Airlines, but they're firing like 20% of their workforce. | ||
| And they're hiring people in India to work the phones. | ||
| So the point with that is the bill, the people with the money are not doubling down on us. | ||
| It's like they have given up. | ||
| And like they, they know what's coming. | ||
| It's the same reason why China, they're in a worse financial situation than we are, but they keep printing money and they keep making things and they keep going because they know they're. | ||
| What everybody's playing for now is who is going to come out as the new global leader once, whatever happens 100 worldwide crash or a world war, it's. | ||
| It's basically that. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| That's why they don't care about running up our national. | ||
| It can never be paid back. | ||
| Now I want to. | ||
| I want to not discredit what you're saying as, as far as builder, you did say like yes, Trump is a builder, but then we're talking about Zuckerberg, Bezos and some of these other people. | ||
| I have to give credit where credit is due. | ||
| The thing is billionaires. | ||
| You know two-handed, two-handed at that point. | ||
| But here's the thing, the value of a company like Amazon, the value of something like you know Uh Altman, and and what he did with OPEN Ai. | ||
| Those can't be discredited. | ||
| Those are maybe not be physical, tangible items, but they have dramatically changed the way in which we operate our day-to-day lives. | ||
| Now, for example Amazon, I know back in the day, and you're old enough to also realize back in the day, when it came down to ordering something before Amazon. | ||
| Good luck if you thought that was going to come next day. | ||
| You're looking at, I remember you're looking at like a week plus. | ||
| Maybe you're not really having the best tracking in the world. | ||
| You're just kind of hoping that that that shows up to your door and uh, let's hope for the best. | ||
| What Amazon did by providing products from around the world and giving us access to stuff that we don't have to leave our house for. | ||
| It's a convenience, but it's also life-changing. | ||
| That's one of those things though, that when it stops coming, you know whenever things really get bad that, like we have so many creature comforts, we can do whatever we want. | ||
| This is true right, but it's at the same time, you could say the same argument like the internet. | ||
| When the internet was created, we've become so reliant on it. | ||
| Now, if there was an EMP that was no internet, it would be the walking dead. | ||
| Yeah, people wouldn't know what to do. | ||
| It would literally be like the crime, the craziness, because people would just be like jellyfish. | ||
| They would shut down. | ||
| Right, I would hide my house with a gun, to be fair. | ||
| Yeah, people would lose their. | ||
| But not just that. | ||
| You have um, all These other critical systems that rely on internet now, in order to provide services to people. | ||
| If that all falls, everybody's cooked. | ||
| And Jenny Gree. | ||
| So I'm just saying, overall, let's not discredit some of the work that has been done on the digital because it has dramatically changed our lives. | ||
| But I also see his point as Trump being someone who is involved in physical, tangible products where he saw something physically get built and that culture being important. | ||
| I get your perspective. | ||
| But that's just new age versus old age. | ||
| That's how I see that. | ||
| I think, you know, people live on computers all day and live in the nicest neighborhoods with the most money. | ||
| They may not ever consider, you know, the concept of there being a pothole that needs to get fixed. | ||
| I do think Trump is the type of guy that may think about stuff like that. | ||
| Like he talks, at least he signals that he cares about infrastructure. | ||
| He doesn't just say the word infrastructure. | ||
| He says, even if he doesn't build it, the type of things he'd like to have built. | ||
| I've seen a lot of examples of this. | ||
| So great call, Owl Killer. | ||
| Really appreciate you. | ||
| Is there anything you want to say in closing? | ||
| No, Justin, like, something happened with that big, beautiful bill, and that's when our foreign policy went completely left. | ||
| It's almost like he had to sacrifice some of the things he stood for in order to get that bill passed. | ||
| And it just seems out of that Laura Ingram interview yesterday, so out of touch with reality. | ||
| We should have played that. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good one. | ||
| Yeah, I really, like, I really wish he would just come out and say, hey, dudes, we're in a bad position. | ||
| Like, you know, that's not how he does. | ||
| He doubles down. | ||
| Yeah, he doubles down. | ||
| He doubles down. | ||
| But thank you for your call. | ||
| And I hope you call in again. | ||
| Thank you, Owl Killer. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That's the thing about Trump. | ||
| You'll never catch him saying something bad about what he said. | ||
| He'll double down and deny until he dies. | ||
| But here's the thing: I mean, you've got to say certain things in order to like, here's the thing. | ||
| If he came out and said that, not just his approval ratings, but you're going to see like the stock market drop and all these other things. | ||
| He kind of has a responsibility to be. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Heavy is the head that wears the crown. | ||
| Now we're going to go to a new Groper and joining now. | ||
| What's up, guys? | ||
| How are y'all doing today? | ||
| Hey, we're doing great. | ||
| Thanks for waiting, man. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Hey, no problem. | ||
| It was a great caller before me. | ||
| It's hard to follow that up, but you always do. | ||
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What's up? | |
| Are you guys enjoying this golden age yet? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It gets better every day. | ||
| I get more positive. | ||
| You know, it's also great. | ||
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Hey. | |
| Yeah, it's like, oh, you can't pay your bills. | ||
| Let's add a 50-year mortgage. | ||
| Oh, you can't pay for your car. | ||
| Let's just make that a 15-year. | ||
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Right. | |
| Right. | ||
| Like, dude. | ||
| Like, I don't, you know, I just want to bring this to everybody's attention and remind everybody the way that Trump's been portrayed is as like a, you know, a bashing against the left. | ||
| But let's not forget that up until 2015, I believe, he was a registered Democrat. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I believe it was that race that was like, like, he rubbed elbows with the Quinns and he hung out with Epstein and he ran with the whole crowd. | ||
| And what we're seeing, like, everybody's like, man, why are his actions different than his words? | ||
| It's like, well, because he's lying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| No, it's all, I'm not trying to step on your point. | ||
| I'll let you continue, but like, this is just what I keep saying every show is like the level of grifting, even these new scams they produce, like the 15-year car payment and then the 50-year mortgage. | ||
| Like Tim gave the explanation, hey, maybe it makes sense for business, right? | ||
| All these things make sense for people that know how to use the system. | ||
| It's just the average American, the person that gets screwed, they trust Trump when he comes out and says, hey, I got this new magical thing that's going to be great for you when it has no material benefit to their life. | ||
| I mean, has there been a single policy besides maybe freeing the Jan 6 people that has improved people's lives? | ||
| The tariff certainly. | ||
| The policy of freeing the Jan 6 improved my life. | ||
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No, you know, it improved a lot of people. | |
| But I'm saying the people who are directly affected. | ||
| Yeah, it improved a lot of people. | ||
| I think it's correct. | ||
| I think it's a correct statement. | ||
| But what are your thoughts, New Griper? | ||
| Has there been anything where he's delivered? | ||
| To me, no. | ||
| I mean, well, it depends. | ||
| If you're Israel, absolutely. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That billboard, that billboard that was shared at the beginning where it said, make Israel great, man, he is the greatest president Israel has ever seen. | ||
| He could be the prime minister. | ||
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I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be surprising to me if he went. | |
| Because I think he's going to end up being one of the most hated presidents we've ever had. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I'm so sad when it's all said and done. | ||
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I think, well, watch out. | |
| He's going to move to Tel Aviv and retire there. | ||
| Honestly, I mean, he's not going to want. | ||
| I like to see a betting line on that. | ||
| This is up on polymarket Calci. | ||
| Dude, seriously, that makes a lot of sense. | ||
| I mean, all these people, all the elites, eventually, when that Great Depression does happen, you're going to see a lot of this permanent political class be like, hey, we did all we could. | ||
| We're moving out of the country. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So here's my take on it. | ||
| I'm not a Trump glazer, but I have to give credit where credit's due. | ||
| I will say one of the main issues I did vote on was the border issue. | ||
| I know this is something that people have brought up in the past, but at the end of the day, I was really pissed off. | ||
| I used to lean more Democratic probably 2021, 2022. | ||
| Sorry, seeing all the crazy stuff that was happening in Ukraine, saw all the people that were coming into the border. | ||
| And I was like, you know what? | ||
| I think it's time to switch teams. | ||
| And one of my major issues, as well as the rest of the country, it was like number one or two slot we voted on was the border situation. | ||
| Now he has increased ISIS border, the amount of money that's going into it. | ||
| They got 32 billion. | ||
| Yeah, they increased the budget that they have. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I voted for kicking out people who were criminals, which he was doing, which he is continuously doing. | ||
| I voted for kicking out people who did not have America's best interest. | ||
| And I agree with those things. | ||
| The only thing about the immigration thing that I am not really a fan of is when we go after the kids and then when we go after international people that are like the intellectual people that we need, that pay lots of people still getting. | ||
| You want people. | ||
| I want V. Like I don't see why we have to attack the H1. | ||
| There's so many more issues that we have besides attacking H-1B. | ||
| I know you guys are gonna clean me up, but here's the thing, I would rather have the intelligence of the smartest people around the world coming here rather than them just going to their own country and building that stuff there. | ||
| We are a product of international cooperation and having the brightest minds here. | ||
| It's that melting pot because we've created that. | ||
| I, I see that issue. | ||
| Melting pot. | ||
| Yeah I, I see that issue. | ||
| Hold on, I gotta interject real quick. | ||
| Let's talk about melting pot really quick. | ||
| Do you know where that comes from? | ||
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No term melting pot. | |
| It was a term that was coined by a Jewish playwright and it was. | ||
| It was I. | ||
| I can't remember when it was made, but the whole intent, like before that we were not. | ||
| We were not a melting pot. | ||
| Yeah, this is uh, like this whole idea, a white Christian Country majority and that's about to change, coming up in like 20 guys slaves over here. | ||
| But well, I mean, the black population isn't growing. | ||
| That's not the change in our demographic, it's the primarily Latino graphic that's going to take over. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So, but go ahead. | ||
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NEW grouper, Yeah, no, okay. | |
| So let's talk about, let's talk about Trump's achievements just a little bit more. | ||
| First of all, the border. | ||
| The border is irrelevant because of how many people, both legal and illegal, that we have here. | ||
| Statistics have shown now that we have more, we have more people than we have open jobs. | ||
| I'm a fan of, hey, we can help people, like help people if you're in a position to help them. | ||
| We as a nation are not our American citizens. | ||
| We can't buy houses. | ||
| Everything is expensive. | ||
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Right. | |
| And, you know, it's like, hey, hey, hey, Trump, if you want to lower house prices and make them reasonable, kick all of these people out. | ||
| Like, like when he talked about these 600,000 Chinese H-1B slash student visas, like, bro, that's MAGA. | ||
| Are you smoking crack? | ||
| Like, like, on what planet is that what we asked for? | ||
| So are you help me understand? | ||
| Are you like all or nothing? | ||
| Is it a binary thing for you? | ||
| It's like either you either they let the people in or you just kick everybody out in isolationism. | ||
| Like what's your I would say this. | ||
| There is a direct correlation between the mass immigration that's happened over the past decade to decade and a half and political and regional instability. | ||
| There is. | ||
| I mean, you know, everybody talked about we're bringing the best and brightest. | ||
| That's not who got sent here. | ||
| Well, you got to separate it. | ||
| I mean, these were, you got to separate it. | ||
| You've got to have the people that come here legally. | ||
| And then you have to talk about the illegal because these are two different separate issues. | ||
| The problem is they're all getting lumped under the same umbrella is the issue. | ||
| So can I pose this question? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| The country itself, does it have an obligation to provide opportunities for everyone? | ||
| Or does it have an obligation to provide opportunities for its own people? | ||
| Primary is its own people. | ||
| I'll give you that. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| We're not talking about are the gaps in the education. | ||
| This is the macro argument here, right? | ||
| If there is an equivalent American to replace the equivalent job, or we're a meritocracy when it comes down to whoever's the most qualified applicant, we have a gap when it comes to STEM. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Even in school, the typical person who was like going for the engineering degree and the person who was, you know, going to do the doctor, it was more often like the Asian parents that were like pushing their kids to do that because it's within the culture. | ||
| Americans tell their, and I'm, I'm, I'm super pro-America, but I'm just saying there's a gap. | ||
| You have to go and take a step back and be like, okay, we've got to teach our kids the right thing. | ||
| There is a gap in the amount of Americans that want to go do really hard jobs like software engineering and those things. | ||
| That's why we have created the funnel to bring other people in. | ||
| Because in India and in China, when you're like five years old, they immediately tell you, look, you're not going for this little art history degree. | ||
| You're not going for English major. | ||
| Yeah, you're doing doctor or you're going to be an engineer or you're going to be something that contributes to society. | ||
| And that has been a generational thing that they have passed through the lineage. | ||
| Here, if Jimmy wants to go and study underwater basket weaving, Jimmy gets to go study underwater basket weaving for fucking $200,000. | ||
| There's a solution just to import people forever. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There's a balance, but here's the thing. | ||
| We go from one extreme to another. | ||
| That's the problem I have here. | ||
| That's why we're in the situation. | ||
| You do a gradual change. | ||
| You remember you're talking about strategy, not strategic instead of long-term thinking. | ||
| I understand the point you're making. | ||
| At the core of this argument, and this is why you're never going to agree with New Greuper and New Groiper is never going to agree with you. | ||
| This is a demographics problem at the end of the day. | ||
| And for people like Nagroiper, and I would argue myself to a certain extent, the vast makeover and change of the country that we're told is good just because it is good and we need to have the best people here, but all the people need to be here. | ||
| The argument that New Groiper is making is he goes, look, I see 20 million people come over the border illegally. | ||
| I see 600,000 students come over here legally and then the visa programs and the whatnot. | ||
| I don't want any of it because the way I've seen it, my country has changed not for the better, not for the people that lived here. | ||
| And the solution that we're getting from the government is, hey, the economy sucks. | ||
| No one wants to do these jobs. | ||
| Why don't we just bring people here that will? | ||
| Instead of encouraging the American people, instead of helping them, we just outsource it domestically instead of internationally. | ||
| We bring the people here instead of paying them over there. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| And not just that. | ||
| I think that there's been institutional bias against Native Americans who were born here. | ||
| Like with the DEI initiatives of the past, I guess, two decades. | ||
| They know they can pay people. | ||
| You know, if it comes down to it, they've got quotas for the different demographics. | ||
| And it's been politicized to the point to where, first of all, America, we, I mean, we built Western civilization in a modern sense. | ||
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We did. | |
| We championed it. | ||
| I mean, we, you know, the British kind of laid some found work, but America, like the computer, the internet, like all the modern things that we've seen were built by Americans in America. | ||
| And I don't think that the intellect, like our IQ just dropped by 15 or 20. | ||
| I think that we still have that IQ, but I think we're being artificially suppressed. | ||
| And it's like, you know, I work, I work in fintech. | ||
| And I can tell you this, and this is going to be unpopular. | ||
| I deal with a lot of H-1B workers, particularly from India. | ||
| They cannot physically do the work. | ||
| Like, I'm just speaking from my own field. | ||
| It is extreme. | ||
| First of all, you can't communicate with them. | ||
| Second of all, they struggle to understand the basic concepts and how to do the job to the point where everybody's frustrated. | ||
| But the company that I work for, which is really big, gets incentivized to hire foreigners. | ||
| And so they do over Americans. | ||
| And every year they lay off thousands of Americans. | ||
| And then at the beginning of the year, after, you know, after the quarter ends, at the beginning of this next quarter, they go and hire a bunch of Indian people every single time. | ||
| So let me touch upon this. | ||
| And it's a systemic issue. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| No, you're good. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| I was just going to say. | ||
| No, I was just going. | ||
| I agree with the standpoint of when you have like those tiered jobs that are like, especially like customer service being kicked out to, you know, outsourced to. | ||
| I mean, it's AI, but it hasn't caught up yet. | ||
| And Amazon, all of their people are like international and you can no longer talk to American over the phone. | ||
| Super frustrating. | ||
| Sure, there would be somebody who would take that job. | ||
| Those are the scenarios. | ||
| Like I said, everything is tiered. | ||
| I'm not saying this is a black or white thing. | ||
| It is a gray area thing where you have where you're, what you're going to is from one extreme where the companies just decide, all right, well, we found this is completely cheaper and we just take it to the extreme and just fire a bunch of Americans and replace them. | ||
| And then your other counterpoint is like, okay, well, just kick them all out, right? | ||
| No, the real happy medium is a mixing of the two ideas. | ||
| The people we need are the brightest software engineers in the very high skill labor class, right? | ||
| I'm talking about those gaps. | ||
| I'm not talking about, you know, the, I know you talked about fintech, but I'm saying, like, I know a ton of elite coders that come from overseas and they run circles around people who code here and they create amazing technology here. | ||
| And it's part of the reason why we're talking about the future. | ||
| Do the vast majority of the people that hold the H-1B or whatever, do they perform that level of skilled labor? | ||
| So here's the problem with H-1B. | ||
| So here, here's the problem with H-1B and why the Republicans and some of these other groups have gone and attacked that specific program. | ||
| There has been a grifting that has happened on a macro level with the lottery system to where they've created the lottery system's a mess. | ||
| It needs to be fixed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That part is very clear. | ||
| The problem, what was happening with the Indian H-1B is like a majority of H-1B holders are India and they come from India. | ||
| And the thing is, what ended up happening is you have these organizations that are overseas that basically are in charge of finding specific people that would go and take a particular job here in America for a lot less money than the American worker here. | ||
| I don't agree with that type of practice. | ||
| What I do is the meritocracy practice where you have the same two people competing for the same job and whoever better at the job should get the job, but at the same time, holding that placeholder for the American who like it half-ass is not going to work as hard. | ||
| I don't need that guy at that point. | ||
| And there's Kate, you take it. | ||
| Well, I think that's, I think that's generally a straw man in the sense of when it comes to American workers. | ||
| Most of them, the most American workers I know, both of all levels, they work hard. | ||
| I think like the whole problem that we have is, and this is a point I posed, if these people are so smart and so much better than us, why can they not build industries in their own nation? | ||
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Okay, so let me poop at any point. | |
| Let me see your culture. | ||
| The festival. | ||
| New Growth Break. | ||
| Well, first of all, let me clarify. | ||
| And everyone's going to think, oh, I'm an Indian. | ||
| I'm like being paid. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a Michelle agent, basically. | ||
| No, here's the thing. | ||
| First of all, the throwing poop. | ||
| I've got to make this clear because I inform myself on these. | ||
| That was one Indian, that was one Indian place where a specific group of population of like 500,000 Indian out of the billion, those were the people that practiced it. | ||
| It was just that one rural village. | ||
| He went there. | ||
| Yeah, hilarious video. | ||
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Ha ha ha ha. | |
| But the vast majority of Indians, like the 99%, don't do that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's put that one to rest. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why? | ||
| I'm going to answer your question. | ||
| I'm going to answer your question. | ||
| I'm going to answer your question now where you're asking me, okay, Tim, why can't they build these things? | ||
| It's because you take the smartest people who were in those countries that could have built that stuff. | ||
| They want to come here to America. | ||
| That is why I have people that I know that are mega geniuses that could create amazing things in their own country. | ||
| But there is a certain appeal that America creates and that we have incentivized for people to come here. | ||
| That's the American dream. | ||
| Go ahead, Rex. | ||
| Go ahead, New Group. | ||
| Now, I agree with both of y'all. | ||
| No, no, I'd say this. | ||
| Yeah, this is the reality. | ||
| They don't want to build anything for themselves in their own nations. | ||
| They want to come to America, the greatest nation in the planet, even with its faults. | ||
| And they want to take our jobs and take our and because these American companies, which were built by Americans and so they want to take it over. | ||
| And the thing, the problem is, too, is their hiring practices. | ||
| They're having group chats where they're hiring people based on their Indian caste system. | ||
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Like, you know, like it's out of control. | |
| We as Americans have a right to live and work and do well. | ||
| in our own nation. | ||
| I'm not, I'm not in agreement with Ben Shapiro of, oh, well, if you can't find opportunities, go somewhere else. | ||
| So this is our nation. | ||
| Give me a second. | ||
| I didn't serve this nation to not have opportunities afforded to my generation and the next one. | ||
| It's just outrageous. | ||
| Here's what I mean. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Here's what I hear. | ||
| You don't like there being groups of people that based off identity, organize and then collectively try to get ahead. | ||
| I'm against that as well. | ||
| So like this, this is what I hear, right? | ||
| I think it's a reality. | ||
| People talk about Jewish people, international Jewry, like Nick Fuentes does. | ||
| At the core of the issue that he's talking about, he goes, look, these people are highly coordinated. | ||
| They identify with being in their ethnic group and they're working to advance their ethnic group, not necessarily the nation that they're in. | ||
| And I can understand that. | ||
| I think that's not true for all groups of people. | ||
| But I do think specifically, like you have a bunch of people come over here from China, 600,000 people come over here from China, oh, to learn, to study, to integrate, blah, Are those people going to be more loyal to America or to the People's Republic of China? | ||
| What you need is you, and I see where you're going with that. | ||
| I don't agree with just opening the floodgates, letting a bunch of people in and not having their best intentions. | ||
| I know a ton of international people that love America, if not more than their own country. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| I'm not totally against legal immigration. | ||
| So here's the thing. | ||
| Yes, this is where it comes down to the macro level argument. | ||
| It is about legal immigration for the people who want to come here, who have not the same opportunities. | ||
| Because here's the thing, starting a business in the Philippines is not the equivalency of starting a business here. | ||
| Starting a business in Britain, for example, is actually harder. | ||
| Even in Germany, it is harder for you to do the same things that it's here because they've already, you know, I get that, but at the same time, as America, that's not our problem. | ||
| I knew you're going there. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| Y'all are going to be able to do that. | ||
| I'm also not going to be able to have opposing positions. | ||
| So I think that you've made good points. | ||
| I think New Groper's made good points. | ||
| Just societal at large, immigration issues, huge, of course. | ||
| I wanted to say this, but then we kind of got into a tangent or discussion on this issue, which I think was a good discussion. | ||
| I voted for Trump. | ||
| I was a single issue voter as well. | ||
| Sounds like you're pretty much like immigration. | ||
| I want that over, right? | ||
| No, when it comes to like people with the border. | ||
| Well, no, that part was like, I think you still continue that process. | ||
| Overall, my whole standpoint with all of this, and even with you, New Groiper, I'm saying let's not take extremes here. | ||
| There are nuances to everything and there are scenarios that make it. | ||
| I'm trying to make a point. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I'm trying to make a trying to make a point. | ||
| My point being is when you were talking about Trump and you were kind of being like, hey, like, we can't just say he's totally bad. | ||
| Like, these are things that he's followed through on. | ||
| That's what we were talking about as things. | ||
| Yeah, that's one of the things he hadn't delivered. | ||
| My issue with Trump beyond anything else is I am sick of the death. | ||
| I'm sick of looking at Ukraine. | ||
| I'm sick of looking at Gaza. | ||
| I'm sick of looking at these boats that were just drone striking or helicopter striking or whatever. | ||
| And they have the cool words for it and Jesse Waters orgasms about it on Fox News. | ||
| That's what I'm upset about. | ||
| Beyond financial economics, even demographic stuff, the karma on America of having like 60 plus million aborted fetuses plus all these millions of people that have died in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe now based on conflicts that we've started. | ||
| This is what really bothers me. | ||
| And you talk about America as being a place that, you know, other people in other countries, they love America more than their own country. | ||
| And like they want to come here. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| I actually think that that's a good thing. | ||
| I would like to preserve that. | ||
| And that's why I would still like some people coming over here because when that's not the case, we're truly fucked. | ||
| It's controlled immigration. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| And I totally understand your, I understand your point, Tim. | ||
| And I want America to be a place, you know, like much less a place people come. | ||
| I think I can understand where you guys are saying. | ||
| You're like, well, look, it's already a big mess. | ||
| We need to clean up house first before we can think about the solutions when it comes to these systems. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's like, like we can, we can do, we can do all, you know, the immigration, all that stuff. | ||
| It's like, I'm not, not saying no immigration ever. | ||
| I'm saying immigration can't happen at the detriment of the American people. | ||
| It cannot. | ||
| Like that, that just can't happen. | ||
| And right now, we're in a position where we can't help ourselves. | ||
| And with our society being so unstable, adding more people with different cultures and different values to it is kind of like adding more gunpowder to the K. That's about to blow up. | ||
| I think immigration. | ||
| And that's why I'd like to see it stop. | ||
| I think immigration, if I tear the list of like what's causing issues, I think that's not like the high priority of what's causing a lot of issues. | ||
| I mean, that it is one of them, but they're mad at that. | ||
| But at the same time, I think the biggest problem is Trump is trying to do too many things all at the same time. | ||
| Yeah, he's not doing it. | ||
| What the name is. | ||
| When I say trying to do, I'm saying his mind is focused on trying to do something over here, do something over there. | ||
| One day he's tweeting about that. | ||
| One time he's tweeting about this. | ||
| He's the new Biden, man. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| Biden was asleep. | ||
| Trump is awake. | ||
| He's sleepwalking. | ||
| He's just going through the motions of playing the character that is Donald J. Trump, president of the United States of America. | ||
| He's going to the dinners. | ||
| He's having the press conferences. | ||
| He's sitting in the Oval Office. | ||
| He's not making any decisions. | ||
| I'm done with believing this. | ||
| No, when I say decisions, I mean, like, let me clarify on that. | ||
| It's not necessarily that you're necessarily moving. | ||
| It's like I have a hundred different things instead of for me just going be like, all right, these are the top five things. | ||
| Let's just go and knock these all out before going this. | ||
| It's like, all right, we start with like the tariffs and then suddenly we jerk the wheel and we're just invading Venezuela all of a sudden. | ||
| My point is, what is it exactly that the United States president actually does? | ||
| Because every single one that we have, the country gets worse. | ||
| So what is it exactly that the president and even the government do? | ||
| Well, they provide services to people. | ||
| They protect national security, all this, that, and the other thing. | ||
| They don't actually help anyone. | ||
| It's just like the police. | ||
| All they do is protect property. | ||
| They don't care about you. | ||
| So I think we look at this whole system. | ||
| We're like, oh, like, how do we fix it? | ||
| How do we fix it? | ||
| This is why I believe in like a third party or a new system. | ||
| I just believe the system is totally broken. | ||
| And whenever we have these people in office, whatever they say, whatever they do, it's always just going to be at the behest of people with the money. | ||
| So like, I think it's, it's organized collapse. | ||
| It is demoralization. | ||
| It's crime. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It has to get bad before it gets good. | ||
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| So it just includes. | ||
| What about you, Nick Roberts? | ||
| Yeah, no, you know, my whole thing with Trump is he will do everything except what we asked him to do because he got the call to the tune of a quarter of a billion dollars by Miriam Badelson. | ||
| And, you know, it's funny how all these other nations are blood and soil nationalist nations, like Ukraine, blood and soil, right? | ||
| Oh, we got to help the Ukrainian people for their nation. | ||
| Oh, Israel's got to be the Jewish nation of Israel. | ||
| We got to make sure they're the Jewish nation of Israel. | ||
| But when it comes to America, it's a free-for-all. | ||
| And, you know, it's like, let's do everything to help these other people when our people. | ||
| are struggling, like genuinely struggling. | ||
| And we're not talking about just lazy bums. | ||
| We're talking about people who work hard and contribute to society. | ||
| And what's going to happen is society will fall because of it. | ||
| And eventually there will be a season of civil unrest or spanning maybe the civil war. | ||
| And it will be their fault. | ||
| And partially our fault because we never held them to a like, why would we expect to hold them accountable now if they haven't held them accountable for at least the past hundred years? | ||
| Like that's kind of unus. | ||
| Well, it's for being unable. | ||
| It's been slow grabbing of power. | ||
| You know what I think the swamp is? | ||
| I think the swamp, like the water and the mud in the swamp, I think that's money. | ||
| I think that's all the fake money they printed. | ||
| It's all the inflation. | ||
| And that's what they swim around in, these people. | ||
| We talk about the… Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, we talk about the depression. | ||
| We talk about the collapse coming and all this stuff. | ||
| That's the drought. | ||
| That's what dries up all that water. | ||
| I think that's what we need in order for the country to heal. | ||
| And I think you think about that analogy, it'll make a little bit of sense because the numbers that we talk about, like 300 billion to Ukraine, a trillion to defense and to the military. | ||
| These are not like it's just forever zeros. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you're right. | ||
| I think the point that the whole system really changes and the America that everybody's talking about, the only version that exists, you know, this third party, it only exists if there's enough, like you said, turmoil. | ||
| And I hate the fact that you have to try to speak that. | ||
| We have to try to speak that into existence. | ||
| But the thing is, is like you kind of have to shake up things in order for people to realize, oh, is it really bad? | ||
| Because it's once the once the debt really collapses on us and it starts messing up the average American's life, then it's like, it's kind of like slapping the, it's like slapping the politicians and being like, okay, look, we did something really bad here. | ||
| We need to fix this. | ||
| I mean, I think they'll flee the country when it gets to that point. | ||
| I mean, and this is the thing. | ||
| We criticize Trump. | ||
| We criticize Republican Party and the right in general. | ||
| The left is generally more mobilized and ready in some sort of like quick collapse situation to try to take over. | ||
| And I don't want them in power. | ||
| And I don't want them in power either. | ||
| So, you know, it's a real catch-22 where you're in a situation where this guy you voted for and you thought was going to do all these great things has really just turned into an enabler for the decline of the system. | ||
| And it's really setting up an environment where Americans, they don't research the policies. | ||
| They don't really research the candidates. | ||
| They live their lives. | ||
| And if their lives become easier or more difficult, they vote based on that. | ||
| And things have gotten a lot more difficult already with Trump. | ||
| And like, we're it's like Trump isn't popular or cool right now. | ||
| He's doing a terrible job, in my opinion. | ||
| And I think in a lot of Americans' opinions, and he's setting up the country for the leftist surge that I think will happen. | ||
| And then whenever these people get in power, they're going to use the executive powers that he developed and Biden developed and Obama developed before him. | ||
| And they're going to do the full rollout, man. | ||
| It's all going to be there. | ||
| So just like, and closing your, what scares you the most about the future? | ||
| What are you the most optimistic about? | ||
| Well, I'd say this. | ||
| The thing that scares me the most is the passivity of the people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, as long as the surfaces are running, they don't care. | ||
| And by the time they do care, it's going to be far too late to care right. | ||
| And so you know like, what like, and the thing like with the politicians. | ||
| It's not that we're not, we don't look on the politicians or whatever it's that. | ||
| They look us in the eyes and they lie and we have no recourse. | ||
| We can't call I don't to my knowledge and correct me if i'm wrong here, guys we can't call snap referendum elections on like executive branch, you know, like the president, the Congress. | ||
| No, we don't have that and you're right right, we can't do it for nothing. | ||
| And so they, they lie to us on purpose and they and they have for decades and they get away with it, and they get away with it and and then we can't do nothing. | ||
| Because here's the thing we, you know, this is, and and some might say i'm fed posting here with this but this is just a concept of, uh, if you talk about physically solving the problem, oh you're, you're a domestic terrorist now, and it's like they've got everybody so spooked to say the you know to say anything about it. | ||
| But honestly, like when, it's when I think of, like the things that are good. | ||
| That's going to come. | ||
| I think the people will rise up and I think we will correct it eventually. | ||
| My, my prayer is that we just you know this starts before i'm you know, or soon enough to where i'm not old, too old to you know be safe and handle things during it well, because that's the reality. | ||
| People are gonna have to, something's gonna have to happen. | ||
| The thing you talk about is direct action, and the left has always been more than willing to engage in that right. | ||
| So I think I think that's a great point. | ||
| Um, phenomenal call New Groiper and everyone always enjoy having you on man, always enjoy having you on man and uh yeah, it's uh, it's fun. | ||
| Yeah, and please follow New Groiper. | ||
| Uh, it's in you Groiper on x, if you're watching this live and thank you man, we'll see you on the next one, appreciate it? | ||
| Yeah, we'll see you guys, take it easy you too. | ||
| Bye beautiful, all right, so you want to take more calls? | ||
| What do you want to do here? | ||
| We're at two hours. | ||
| You want to do more? | ||
| Um, what do you want to do? | ||
| We can we, I? | ||
| I kind of want to watch this ingrain. | ||
| Let's watch it first, because everyone's and and we'll come back to Andrew yeah, and everyone's talking about this and thank you Andrew, for holding so long. | ||
| Let's watch a click, a quick clip of this, because everyone's outraged. | ||
| Republicans have to talk about it. | ||
| And does that mean the H-1b visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration? | ||
| Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers also do have to bring in talent. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| We don't have talented people. | ||
| You don't have. | ||
| You don't have certain talents and you have to. | ||
| People have to learn. | ||
| You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line, and say, i'm going to put you into a factory, we're going to make missiles, or i'm going to put how did we ever do it before? | ||
| Well, let me, and I are. | ||
| I'll give you an example. | ||
| In Georgia they raided because they wanted illegal immigrants. | ||
| Uh, they had people from from South Korea that made batteries all their lives. | ||
| You know, making batteries are very complicated. | ||
| It's not an easy thing and very dangerous a lot of explosions, a lot of problems. | ||
| They had like five or six hundred people early stages to make batteries and to teach people how to do it. | ||
| Well, they wanted them to get out of the country. | ||
| You're going to need that law. | ||
| I mean, I know you and I disagree on this. | ||
| You can't just say uh, a country's coming in, going to invest 10 billion dollars to build a plant and gonna take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years and they're gonna start making their missiles. | ||
| It doesn't work that well. | ||
| Okay yeah, and that was what I was saying. | ||
| And and people think like, okay well, me making this argument means like, oh, I love, I love India oh, i'll love China i'm, i'm a, i'm a seller, It's your position, but the position really is not necessarily going to the extreme and being like, let's bring in 600,000 freaking Chinese immigrants in. | ||
| It's just, hey, look, there is a nice sweet spot where we do have a gap. | ||
| And we're not going to be able to fill that because we have undereducated people. | ||
| And it's going to take a while for us to get to that point where we can actually reprogram an entire generation. | ||
| So we already made the mess. | ||
| It's not like you can, just like we're talking about the government, you can't just like all of a sudden snap your fingers and the problem disappears with the two-party system. | ||
| You know, it's just you got to work with the tools that you have right now. | ||
| And this is the situation we're in, guys. | ||
| Well, let's talk to Andrew now. | ||
| He's been holding for quite some time. | ||
| Appreciate you holding. | ||
| Appreciate you holding for so long, man. | ||
| What's on your mind? | ||
| What's up? | ||
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| Yeah, awesome. | ||
| I called in like a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| Oh, you're the Connecticut guy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I recognize your voice, man. | ||
| Good to see you again. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Yeah, I'm definitely with New Groyper, I'd say. | ||
| It's a common thread. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, did you understand that? | ||
| Oh, go ahead. | ||
| What's your points? | ||
| I want to just break it down for us. | ||
| Well, if I have a single issue, my single issue is just the demographic changes that we're seeing in the country. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is it that crazy to say you want the nation that you have heritage in and grew up in to remain of the same characteristics as it was before? | ||
| Because what we're seeing is that it's rapidly dwindling before our eyes and it's not going to get better on our current track and it's only going to get closer and closer into a hellscape. | ||
| So just wanting to kind of like steer away from that as much as possible is, I think, the move. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| You cut out. | ||
| Oh, did I cut out? | ||
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| Okay, nice. | ||
| What part did I cut out at? | ||
| Kind of in the middle. | ||
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| The very end of that sentence. | ||
| Okay, well, I was just saying, I was basically just saying that my single issue is demographics. | ||
| I, you know, I'm white and I would like the country to stay as white as possible because this, these lineage of people that I came from and that created the country. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| Like this is this is my position as well. | ||
| And ultimately, when we talk about demographics of the country, like the black population, we're not talking about the black population. | ||
| We're talking about the majority Latino population, which will be the case for the United States of America come like the 2050s. | ||
| And this is the point. | ||
| Would you tell people, I guess you would tell people in France that, hey, you know, your country is going to be Francistan and you're going to have Afghanis and Pakistanis and people from the Middle East. | ||
| And, you know, that's cool and that's fine. | ||
| And now, like, you know, at the Louvre, you're going to have to put on the hijab. | ||
| And is that okay? | ||
| I would not, I would not say. | ||
| So question for both of you. | ||
| Is it a culture thing or is it a, like I know you said demographic. | ||
| It's a hereditary thing. | ||
| It's not necessarily racial. | ||
| It's in the sense of history of being here, which is why I would say you have the exact same argument. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, I would say, you know, ideally, yes, you could say, well, America is built off of immigrants. | ||
| America is a combination of immigrants from Europe and all of the things that happen from the time periods that happened in the past. | ||
| I can see the argument that you guys are making. | ||
| I think, you know, maybe the influx was a little bit too much at a certain point to where, like, yeah, it's like 20 million people. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| And this is the thing. | ||
| And here's maybe we can find common ground on this. | ||
| In regards to people coming over here that are skilled laborer in like software tech or the STEM field, I can, I can see the argument for it. | ||
| Not sure if I agree or disagree, but I understand what you're saying, not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. | ||
| It makes sense to me. | ||
| Now, you talk about the people that came here over the past 10 years, the tens of millions of them. | ||
| They don't need to be here for the society to function. | ||
| They do not. | ||
| They simply do not. | ||
| You cannot make the argument. | ||
| The society was running before. | ||
| And now the society is running after with the influx of people worse. | ||
| So I look, it disgusts me that when Biden was elected, he literally said immediately surge the border. | ||
| And you had caravans of people in Biden shirts just trying to get in. | ||
| And we did that. | ||
| We did that for years. | ||
| And then when Trump comes into office, we can say, hey, immigration is a complicated issue, blah, It's not complicated when you have 20 million people come in here over a short period of time. | ||
| It's not complicated at all. | ||
| I believe you have to get them out. | ||
| But what's your take, Andrew? | ||
| The scary thing is most people, even conservatives, aren't really willing to have the hard conversations, but saying the uncomfortable things that don't sound nice when you say them out loud, but they're true. | ||
| So you need to say it. | ||
| It's like, why are there Somalians in Minneapolis? | ||
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| This is a coordinated attack. | ||
| Viewing it as anything other than a coordinated attack would be totally naive. | ||
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| What do you call it when they put like 80,000 Somalian people in one county that's small and they become the majority and then they control that? | ||
| No, yeah, that's a little wild. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like literally colonialism, 21st century colonialism. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| And colonialism, of course, is a means of warfare at the end of the day. | ||
| And it's our government doing this against the people that live here and for political advancement for the party. | ||
| I shouldn't say the government. | ||
| I should say political parties, political figures. | ||
| It's gerrymandering at the end of the day. | ||
| There's a lot of cases of this, right? | ||
| You'll say, hey, you know, we got to redraw the map so that we can still have a Republican here or vice versa for the Democrat. | ||
| This is just a new way of doing that where you import a large amount of people to a specific area. | ||
| We're not talking about individual cases here. | ||
| This is systemically done as a mean of warfare. | ||
| So I agree with you on that, Andrew. | ||
| And this is my take on the H-1B take. | ||
| It's a very academic, very sophisticated, nuanced take. | ||
| It's that I actually couldn't care about any of the specifics of their visas and who's the most qualified and meritocracy. | ||
| Something like meritocracy is something I have no interest in at this point in time. | ||
| Given how late in the stages of just sliding into total healthscape that this country is in, we're on the precipice of total collapse. | ||
| Most people don't even see that, but it's just true. | ||
| And so I just think that I don't agree. | ||
| I don't completely agree with Tim that extremism isn't the relevant solution. | ||
| I think a lot of people live in extreme times, then extremism seems like it would only make sense. | ||
| Don't you think that's why we've gotten to where we've gotten to now? | ||
| Like, here's the thing. | ||
| I think we've been operating on this level of extremism and just pulling the lever in one direction or the other instead of just slightly gently steering the wheel, which is why the mess has been created in the first place. | ||
| That's that's actually really my macro level argument. | ||
| You just meet one extreme with another extreme. | ||
| That's a political argument. | ||
| That's a political argument for making political solutions. | ||
| I'm just of the opinion that there is no political solution. | ||
| You know I don't want to get into FED Posting territory, like New Groiver was saying, but uh, I definitely echo what he was putting down there. | ||
| There probably is no political solution, so that the the time for kind of making compromises and and you know, you know, just slow slightly, you know, stepping around the bush and not really doing a whole bunch. | ||
| I think the time for that is kind of like over and there really is, especially if they're trying to still give everyone the total fabrication that voting matters, when they've imported like at least uh, I I don't even know what the numbers would be now, but probably like 100 million. | ||
| Who even knows what the numbers are of of people that are just not of this country. | ||
| That it's like 20 to 30 million. | ||
| Okay, so it's 20 to 30. | ||
| Question for you guys, both of you. | ||
| Um okay, and i'm not necessarily I, I don't have an answer on this and i'm not necessarily like completely against some of the arguments you guys are making here. | ||
| But like, let's go back into like, the whole Native American thing. | ||
| Like what do you think at that point is the answer? | ||
| Because technically, we came in here well, I can't say we, I wasn't even here yet but the, the Native Americans was the native population here, and they got wiped out. | ||
| If you were the Native American, what's your standpoint on? | ||
| Here's my, here's my answer. | ||
| That was war. | ||
| This is also war, but it's not waged in direct conflict. | ||
| It is the controllers of the system. | ||
| It's that fourth uh branch of government, that bureaucratic class, that has deliberately done this to destabilize the country, and the people don't have a vote. | ||
| They don't get to fight back against it. | ||
| They just have to suffer with more immigration. | ||
| So then it's, it's warfare. | ||
| Do you think it's? | ||
| Do you think it's Darwinism? | ||
| Though, at that point no no, it's being allowed. | ||
| It's being allowed by our government against the wishes of the people. | ||
| Like, this is, this is a warfare operation, just like the Native Americans. | ||
| That was also a warfare operation. | ||
| You can draw direct parallels from that. | ||
| I agree with your point. | ||
| It's war. | ||
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It's war over people of all native Americans. | |
| Oh, go ahead. | ||
| No, go ahead, i'm done. | ||
| I was gonna say that um there, definitely there was injustice towards native Americans, obviously. | ||
| But there's this whole fake narrative that that we were like the evil, like psychotic butchers, and we just like came to them and killed them into. | ||
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Well, we did, we did and we were, but it was a colonizer. | |
| Well here, well here, let me let me make the point, let me step on the point, interrupt, everyone we were. | ||
| They were also yeah, they were killing each other, they were scalping each other, they were raping each other, kidnapping each other. | ||
| It was, look, it's all the same thing. | ||
| People are people and this is why we talk about the Star Wars narrative always being wrong, of like the hero and the villain. | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| Throughout history, it's it's, whoever has the upper hand takes advantage. | ||
| They ultimately win the conflict. | ||
| So to me, for me, when I think about, you know, getting into the morality of the Native American issue, the topic, it's a completely different world. | ||
| It's a completely different world and I I could say that the parallel is relevant in sense of changing the like demographics or population of a place and changing its culture. | ||
| Where I don't see it as relevant is saying like it mean. | ||
| Therefore, we are not allowed to be mean. | ||
| I start Like on either side, I don't think it's relevant. | ||
| I don't think we're allowed to be mean to the Native Americans. | ||
| I don't think the Native Americans are allowed to like, like people think that they like were like riding around on horses and stuff before we came over here. | ||
| Like the level of ignorance about like what was going on over here before we came over here. | ||
| It was a pretty brutal system. | ||
| And, you know, the image of the Native American like on the horse and stuff. | ||
| And like, like the horses came over here because the Spanish and the British brought them over here and all that. | ||
| Like there's a whole mythology around that subject. | ||
| When you look at people across the globe, they're universally the same. | ||
| At some point, every culture has engaged in human sacrifice. | ||
| Every culture has engaged in slavery, all these things that we would deem to be immoral and illegal and bad in the modern sense. | ||
| I just, I don't think, I just, my point is both sides are it just comes down to preservation. | ||
| And that's why I said Darwinism, because it's like literally, it's, it's, you're competing. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
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Right. | |
| But but it's essentially like, like, what, what did they do to be able to compete here? | ||
| That that's that's the point I'm making. | ||
| No, that was internal. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| That's like an internal espionage that happened from people like Biden and the administration that just decided, all right, let's just incentivize that to happen. | ||
| I mean, they let tens of millions of people into the country. | ||
| They told them to come. | ||
| They told the people to come here. | ||
| Darwinism wouldn't apply to it to a whole entire nation where you are basically stripped of any means of defending yourself under the tyranny of the current occupiers of the government. | ||
| There's no, and Darwinism would only make sense if you were talking about it on a much smaller scale in a less complicated fashion. | ||
| But that's my opinion. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here's, here's what I'll wrap up with in my opinion. | ||
| I'm pro-America at the end of the day. | ||
| You know, I like to play devil's advocate because it really just, I like to get the thought process thinking and how people, I just want to hear opinions. | ||
| And some of these are my original thoughts in terms of like, you know, there's also things you agree with. | ||
| And there's things that I agree with you guys on. | ||
| At the end of the day, I don't know what it's like to be necessarily in your shoes as, you know, I'm not white. | ||
| I don't like my culture technically is Africa. | ||
| If I really go down to the deep, you're in general, you're an American. | ||
| Yeah, we're integrated. | ||
| It's, there's no, there's no changing that. | ||
| But I don't, for me, it's a different thing because I'm already the minority and I'm not really thinking about preserving. | ||
| I mean, there's people in the black community that are like get super pissed off at me for like if I'm, you know, into white women or something like that. | ||
| They're like, oh, you're, you're not preserving. | ||
| Dr. Umar is mad at you. | ||
| Dr. Umar. | ||
| Yeah, Dr. Hate me. | ||
| He's like, are you playing with the snow bunnies? | ||
| Dr. Umar's mad at you. | ||
| And look, black women are beautiful. | ||
| Like, you know, that queens forever. | ||
| Snow bunnies, never. | ||
| Dr. Umar cracks me up, man. | ||
| He's a funny guy. | ||
| Charleston White, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a black content creator. | ||
| I understand where everyone's going in terms of this preservation thing, but I think it really, like, I think it's, it's more so the culture that comes with the skin color. | ||
| That's where the, that's where the nuance is coming from. | ||
| I mean, here's the thing. | ||
| Like, I'm, I'm ninth generation Texan. | ||
| So like nine generations of my family died here. | ||
| No, this, this is, this is the point. | ||
| It's not about like, it's a white, white Christian country. | ||
| And because we're white, we must live here forever. | ||
| No, it's because your father, your grandfather, your great-grandfather, your great-great-great-grandfather, they all died here trying to build this American project and contribute to it. | ||
| You, as a person that's lived here for a while and has ancestry history, you have that exact same claim. | ||
| Well, and that's what they say all the time. | ||
| They say black people built the country. | ||
| And we're saying the same thing. | ||
| What I'm saying is if you take the pigmentation out of it, it comes down to a preservation of the value and the culture of whatever you've built in that system. | ||
| The reason why, you know, I'm not like, oh, I want a bunch of Islamists to come in here and completely revamp and get into all the political situations. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, I don't want Sharia law. | ||
| Like, I love talks about it all. | ||
| I love America. | ||
| But here's the thing: if, let's say, Mexico and a lot of these other countries had the exact same culture, then I don't really care that much that a white person looks kind of mixed as long as they're preserving the country. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| Like, I can understand that. | ||
| That's an impossible hypothetical. | ||
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I know. | |
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| I'm living in a fairy tale, but I'm just saying, like, that's where the thing is, blood was shed in order for all of us to be here. | ||
| The problem is, people that have that history, they look at people coming from other parts of the globe to just kind of like jump in at a point where the system's already built up. | ||
| I think that's where people can take offense to it. | ||
| That being said, I mean, people have been driven to this point specifically because of the immigration in the Biden years and how bad it was. | ||
| So, I think it's a phenomenal call. | ||
| One last question for you, Andrew. | ||
| We asked New Guyper this earlier. | ||
| Things about Trump. | ||
| Do you think it's been a net win, net loss? | ||
| What are the things that you hate? | ||
| Biggest positive, biggest positive, biggest negative. | ||
| Do you think he did what he said he's going to do? | ||
| Biggest positive, probably just like the Zoomer intern hype edit that they post on their DHS Twitter and stuff like that. | ||
| That's the biggest positive. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I mean that not non-facetiously, because I mean, I don't really know. | ||
| I feel like everything else has just been a total net negative. | ||
| It's just like it's he now is kind of the time when, like, I think it's just like there's too many things out of his control. | ||
| Like, his life is on the line. | ||
| He could have died easily several times up until this point. | ||
| There's just so many things. | ||
| I mean, I guess he got that bag with Miriam, but that's cool. | ||
| But there's just so many things that, like, he's just, there's, I just don't think he has the ability to change as much as one might think. | ||
| So I think, you know, it's like nice that he's like putting ICE as like a priority, but I don't think he really can even do too, too much with that as well. | ||
| I think what's really going to happen these next couple years is it's already happened just the past year. | ||
| We've given so much ammunition. | ||
| The media is doing what the media does best. | ||
| They're finding every single little thing and blasting it about how this is like Hitler 2.0 and this is like another Holocaust because they're deporting like Maria or something like that. | ||
| And so they're just going to keep stockpiling and blasting everyone with all this stuff. | ||
| And it's going to be a huge power transfer for the next election is what I'm thinking. | ||
| It's going to be total because like you see like Rex was saying, the left is a lot more organized. | ||
| So once they do get back in power inevitably in 2028, it's going to be pretty brutal. | ||
| I think they're going to crack down a lot on conservatism in the right wing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| It's a scary time to be in America. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you, Andrew. | ||
| Yeah, this was a phenomenal call. | ||
| Thank you for coming on. | ||
| We appreciate you always. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
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All right. | |
| Take care. | ||
| I got to say, the callers tonight. | ||
| Yeah, we got some good callers. | ||
| You know, and this is a we talk about these issues and go, oh, you're taking a position. | ||
| Oh, the other person's taking a position. | ||
| We're having discussions here that need to be had between the people that live here in the country and for people abroad to see what Americans are thinking about and commenting on. | ||
| At the end of the day, people have very strong feelings about the country and the nation as it is. | ||
| They have very strong feelings about the current administration and promises kept, promises broken. | ||
| They have very strong feelings about the economy and very strong feelings about how much money has really been devalued. | ||
| And the common thread that we can get to is no one really has a positive vision for the future. | ||
| Everything is kind of trending towards collapse. | ||
| And what we have seen from the Trump administration, kind of this last gasp of hope, that's what I considered it. | ||
| I know that's probably what you considered it as well. | ||
| You're like, man, this guy got elected. | ||
| It sure is going to be great. | ||
| We're not going to hit World War III. | ||
| Kamala's not getting in. | ||
| We hear a lot of unhappiness with the base, and we see the left getting poised again. | ||
| And even though it's just like a New York, New Jersey, and a couple other elections in Virginia, we can really see the bellwether of people kind of trending towards that leftism again because ultimately, hey, if you promise you're going to give people food and food's expensive, people might go with you. | ||
| Yeah, it's just people are getting ping-pong back and forth. | ||
| Yeah, that's the American system, and we love it so much, and it's amazing. | ||
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And like, let's, uh, it's so sad. | |
| Let's um read some of the comments, give you guys some love before we hop off here. | ||
| But honestly, I really enjoyed that. | ||
| I saw an interesting one. | ||
| Someone asked me about something about if I was black. | ||
| Yeah, no, I'm gonna read it, but it's from the Great Potato Kitty. | ||
| LOL never claimed it was. | ||
| It's public live stream. | ||
| I thought I could ask a question and state my opinions. | ||
| Yeah, you absolutely can. | ||
| We're gonna read it. | ||
| As an African-American, how do you feel about the Trump regime firing black military generals and replacing the names of bases with Civil War leaders' names? | ||
| We'll have to research that right now. | ||
| Okay, so I think what he's the Civil War thing, here's the thing. | ||
| He's trying to appeal to his base a little bit with that because I think sometime during Biden and during like the George Floyd movement, they like they tore down a lot of these Civil War things and like a lot of stuff was reviewed. | ||
| I mean, if we're if we're naming bases after like Jefferson Davis and stuff, I have a problem with that too. | ||
| That's not okay. | ||
| Yeah, but here's my standpoint on this: Civil War thing, not really like that's not triggering to me. | ||
| There's people who are sensitive, like some LA people, who would be like, how dare they? | ||
| The firing the black military generals, I'd have to look at it by a case-by-case scenario. | ||
| What he was trying to do was what he was trying to do was eliminate the whole aspect of the DEI thing. | ||
| And I have a feeling he may have gotten carried away. | ||
| And I think that there's someone specific that they're referring to. | ||
| And I think it's the last Secretary of Defense. | ||
| And like, he had a whole bunch of personal issues. | ||
| Like he had prostate cancer or something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's always more to the story. | ||
| So that's why when I see stuff like that, like, you know, you see some off scenarios where like maybe some people who were black were fired. | ||
| That I'm like, okay, well, what's the deeper story behind that? | ||
| Were they not qualified? | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| I'm still for the meritocracy. | ||
| And, you know, you've got situations where I can see the argument for a little bit of, you know, people who were slightly disadvantaged, but I also really prefer the qualified people to be in there. | ||
| So I don't really know what the macro level doesn't bother me that much. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And even then, they can train Americans. | ||
| Like they have to train the cheap labor immigrants. | ||
| The salary for computer scientists is insane, but they don't want to have to pay that kind of money. | ||
| The speed of which I've seen someone write code for a website is insane. | ||
| Yeah, I see what you're saying there. | ||
| It is kind of difficult sometimes, though, to train people. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, sometimes you need to get something done quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I do understand. | ||
| It takes a lot of time and resources for that. | ||
| First Amendment, use it or lose it. | ||
| Totally agree. | ||
| That's what we're doing here. | ||
| We are supposed to learn from the past and go onwards. | ||
| Let's get not get stuck repeating insanity. | ||
| I mean, that's what the country's been for the last three generations, I think, at a minimum. | ||
| Social engineers might send the gray area to sensitivity training. | ||
| That's right, Tim. | ||
| Watch it, America. | ||
| And thank you. | ||
| It's real late in the stream. | ||
| We're probably about to end it, but repost the stream, guys. | ||
| Repost the stream, help us out. | ||
| And really, follow Truism Tim on X. Look, he's got a great X account. | ||
| He posts a lot of stuff and a lot of clips from the show. | ||
| And if you want to. | ||
| He probably pissed off a lot of people tonight, but who knows? | ||
| Well, look, we're doing the show because we're here to talk to the people and we're not here to entertain the people or placate to the people. | ||
| These are your opinions. | ||
| I have my opinions. | ||
| The college, their opinions. | ||
| That's the First Amendment. | ||
| It's beautiful. | ||
| And that's how you know it's not a circle jerk. | ||
| Here's the thing: you know, I am in the center and I lean more conservative, you know, but I'm not MAGA to the I'm in a weird political like you're yeah, you're like also in that weird like middle area where you kind of lean a little bit more left, right? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Yeah, like I want single payer health care for people. | ||
| I think that we should have a governmental health care system. | ||
| Every other developed nation does. | ||
| The fact that we don't is insane, right? | ||
| The doctor, they literally are like, oh, I decided it's this much money for X operation. | ||
| Like, that's complete bullshit. | ||
| I'm in favor of giving people food. | ||
| Oh, whoever thought of that? | ||
| Maybe we don't have to give them Twinkies or Snickers, but hey, if you can't eat, we should help you eat. | ||
| I'm a fan of that. | ||
| And see, all those things require governmental power at a certain level and centralized power at a certain level. | ||
| And people will criticize me and come after me and call me a leftist. | ||
| Well, like people have been calling it on the live stream tonight. | ||
| They've been calling it and they've been saying it's the greatest country in the world. | ||
| Well, is it the greatest country in the world if no one can eat? | ||
| No one can go to the doctor? | ||
| Like, are we crazy? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And like, this is the thing. | ||
| I started watching Dudisson years ago, and I was very much proud of my opinion that we should have private health care. | ||
| And I was like, America's awesome. | ||
| Like, I have money. | ||
| I can pay for good operation. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| People should make more money. | ||
| And I watched that show and I realized, man, I'm really ignorant, motherfucker. | ||
| And I don't really have a capacity to understand just how hard people are hurting and suffering out there. | ||
| I have to take a step back and look at it. | ||
| You should have health care. | ||
| You should be able to, if you're going to have a baby, you should have maternity leave. | ||
| Things that these European countries have because we pay for their defense all these years. | ||
| We should have them here. | ||
| Why do we get the worst deal? | ||
| Why do we pay the most for drugs out of anywhere? | ||
| And Trump comes in and says, well, you can get Ozimpic cheaper. | ||
| And it's like, okay, one win out of thousands, tens of thousands of medical. | ||
| One of the things that I did not mention on the last episode when we did talk about healthcare was around the patent system. | ||
| And like, we that we create drugs. | ||
| We're the first in line for a lot of these things. | ||
| So like, I didn't really go through the pros of you know American healthcare because it's not all bad guys. | ||
| I mean, there, there's definitely issues in every single country, depending on what system that they have. | ||
| Canada has its own sets of issues where it's hard to get in. | ||
| Where some of them are like, dude, I wish I had American health care because the line's out the door for them to get a specific surgery. | ||
| Whereas here, you can probably get it done a lot quicker because there's not a line out the door. | ||
| But like, again, it's very hard to buy. | ||
| But it's the highway robbery that goes on. | ||
| It's the emergency room. | ||
| It's the fees. | ||
| It's them. | ||
| You have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to be in a bed for a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like I almost try to figure out like, okay, does the cost equal the benefit? | ||
| You know, like, yeah, we've got some really great things, but does it, does it really cost that much? | ||
| And is it really that expensive because or is it a profit thing? | ||
| I just thought of this. | ||
| Are the ambulances private? | ||
| So, because they're owned by the hospital, hospital, the ambulance is private. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, I'm not because firefighters, those are public rights. | ||
| I think ambulance and fire. | ||
| Well, if it's the emergency ambulance, we got to look this up. | ||
| I actually don't know the answer to this question. | ||
| I'm not going to pretend like I do, but I will say that there's a lot of times when the firefighters, okay, so they are some are private. | ||
| Most of them are public, I thought. | ||
| Well, public ambulances, it looks like, and then there are private ambulances. | ||
| I'm sure, like, we gotta, this is a chat GPT thing. | ||
| You like ask it percentages, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Here, I'm gonna do that right now. | ||
| Talk for a little bit, yeah. | ||
| But in general, like when the firefighter is called, normally the ambulance is also coming out of the same, you know, I think that's a local budget that goes to that. | ||
| Uh, what are we seeing percentage-wise? | ||
| Oh, yeah, so 59%. | ||
| Am I seeing that? | ||
| Yeah, 39% is public for fire department, 59%, only 9%. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| Okay, that would make sense. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, I'm sure somehow there's a gouge and a grift in there that we could find, but we'll read a few more comments. | ||
| Um, Trump's just totally sold on this idea by the wealthy billionaires around him that they want the cheap labor. | ||
| They cut him a check, it's conflict interest, quid pro quo. | ||
| Um, if there's a mess, we will have to clean it up. | ||
| Um, China is one of the oldest nations, they have the ability to build something like ours. | ||
| They would have Trump is willfully misinformed. | ||
| I agree with that big time. | ||
| It was 170 billion to Ukraine, some of it lent, most of it was donating old weapons. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, okay. | ||
| No, no, some of it was old weapons. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| Listen, why are we out of Patriots then? | ||
| Why are we out of the Patriots? | ||
| No, we ran out of the old shit. | ||
| But where's the new stuff? | ||
| Oh, it doesn't exist. | ||
| Bing, bang, boom. | ||
| We literally don't have weapons. | ||
| We don't have weapons. | ||
| And you say 170 billion. | ||
| I believe you're quoting the first Biden aid package, which it was in excess of 200 billion. | ||
| I don't have the stats right in front of me. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I know that you're wrong. | ||
| I know that you're wrong. | ||
| There is no justification for the Ukraine war. | ||
| Oh, we're degrading Russia's capabilities. | ||
| They make more missiles in two months than the entirety of NATO makes in a year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's on its face ridiculous. | ||
| And when you advocate for it, I know you're thinking of Ukraine as like, oh, like they're the rebel alliance. | ||
| They're fighting against the evil Russian Empire coming to take their territory. | ||
| Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. | ||
| A million of their people have died in this war. | ||
| It's absolutely insane. | ||
| They're all doing it for the West, who will come in after the war and rebuild Ukraine and essentially own it. | ||
| It's done for BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. | ||
| The whole war is about that. | ||
| And there's nothing good about it. | ||
| There's no like silver line. | ||
| Oh, we spent a little less money. | ||
| No, we spent more money than is probably even on the books for something in Ukraine. | ||
| Just to clarify, like on a $170 billion package, and I forgot to mention this all the times that we talk about this. | ||
| $170 billion isn't all just going directly into the Ukrainian government. | ||
| Part of that percentage, and I think a good amount of it goes actually towards the American companies to actually build this stuff and replenish the stockpiles that were like you got to look at. | ||
| We got to look into the fine print and actually look at the percentages because I know when they've done some of these packages, not all of it has gone. | ||
| So this isn't the full number. | ||
| Just do you have chat GPT? | ||
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Yeah, we'll do a deep dive. | |
| But like, I know that I've dived into this before, and it's also American investments. | ||
| It's the Lockheeds and the Raytheons making it on the government. | ||
| Yeah, it's all bullshit. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, look, there's just, there's not really anything you can cut to with the American government doing well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You really can't. | ||
| And at the end of the day, like, we're grateful to do the show on the gray area. | ||
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I really had a great time. | |
| We do the show because you are important and you have important views. | ||
| You have important criticisms of the government. | ||
| And where do you get to voice those in a really non-partisan environment? | ||
| That being said, we all have political opinions and whatnot, but me and Tim are sitting here really as independents who are not members of any political party. | ||
| We're not trying to push Trump Kool-Aid. | ||
| We're not trying to push Bernie Sanders Kool-Aid, not AOC Kool-Aid, not Ted Cruz Kool-Aid, not Israel Kool-Aid, not Russian Kool-Aid. | ||
| Oh, yeah, not China Kool-Aid, American values, American systems of freedom, liberty, equality, and ultimately of dialogue. | ||
| We're trying to speak for that silent majority, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We're just trying to have these conversations because everywhere we looked before starting the show, it's just partisan show, partisan show, partisan show. | ||
| Circle jerks, circle jerks. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like you, you look on the left at like Dan Pacman or Destiny. | ||
| You look on the right, you got Crowder and you got Mark Levin. | ||
| And it's all the same crap. | ||
| We're talking about the real problems. | ||
| We're talking about the real issues. | ||
| And we're just grateful you were here with us tonight. | ||
| Is there anything else you want to talk about? | ||
| No. | ||
| And also the other thing I'll add to what you were talking about. | ||
| That's also another thing we saw why I do the deep dives on Sundays, which you guys should definitely be tuning in for every single Sunday. | ||
| The more segments that we're going to come out with are going to be more issues that hit home and issues that are more pertaining, not always necessarily war. | ||
| But we wanted this to be an educational show where you can gain and learn something by the end of that episode and be like, wow, you know what? | ||
| I thought I knew this thing, but I didn't. | ||
| And I spent a lot of time doing the research because, and I spend tens of hours on this so that I can give you guys a lot of dedicated to getting the absolute best facts and information. | ||
| And I do it like not across partisan lines. | ||
| I literally have to like go try to go into the nitty-gritty and find, okay, are you leaning a little bit more right? | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I'm trimming the fat for you guys. | ||
| That way I can get. | ||
| And then you get to see us evolve on our positions and change them over time as more data and knowledge and inference comes in. | ||
| I mean, like we've talked a lot about Israel. | ||
| I think I may have swayed you just a tiny bit into like being a little critical, right? | ||
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| I mean, before us talking and from before me diving in, I was a little bit more on the Israel gravy train. | ||
| But like I'm also, you know, I still am not necessarily like anti-semit. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| I wouldn't call myself that either. | ||
| But at the same time, like we played the videos, the finance minister on the show and you're like, well, you know, that's pretty bad. | ||
| So my point being with that was not to get, not to get to that geopolitical topic. | ||
| When we talk about Israel, everybody wants to talk about Israel. | ||
| My point is we covered things and then based on the information, we're able to evolve or like discard a viewpoint that may or may not have been correct. | ||
| I talk about myself and single-payer healthcare and people being able to afford child care and afford to have kids. | ||
| Like I think if you're pro-life, I think you have to have those positions. | ||
| How could you tell people to be pro-life and have children if the kid can't eat? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So it's about being ideologically consistent, not loyal to the not loyal to subjective values, but loyal to the truth. | ||
| So in closing, you got anything to say? | ||
| Last thing I'll say is, look, we've got a thousand of you guys in here tonight. | ||
| I appreciate every single one of you guys for tuning in. | ||
| And everyone's on X. | ||
| I think we've got some people on YouTube and Rumble, but doing good. | ||
| We go out and we produce full episodes as well that we pull from the lives, just in case you missed some of the content. | ||
| Go and watch that on X. Go and watch that on Rumble. | ||
| Go and watch that on YouTube. | ||
| The link is in the buy on the gray area. | ||
| And I would appreciate even 10 of you guys giving me a follow tonight if you guys really appreciated this segment. | ||
| And I just, again, I just want to continue to provide to give you guys value and it motivates me every single time. | ||
| Think about how much we would love it if we just had a few people just go out and spam and retweet our stuff. | ||
| Think about how awesome that would be, how much we would appreciate that. | ||
| Just a like, just a comment, just share in a video. | ||
| Like that means so much to us, guys. | ||
| So, like, if we had a couple people do that, a couple people repost the stream and do that, a couple people share clips and do that from Gray Area Talks on X, we would really appreciate it, guys. | ||
| And look, Tim has put in so much work doing this show. | ||
| And I kind of sit here and I'm pretty politically informed and pretty passionate on a number of issues. | ||
| I have experience doing a show. | ||
| So I'm coming here and I'm bloviating a lot. | ||
| And I need to get better and I get more dedicated. | ||
| Tim is bringing these hard-hitting topics to the show. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| Be honest with you right now. | ||
| I'm not doing it. | ||
| I'm like finding things that I've been interested in for a while and kind of continuing the saga on like war economy front. | ||
| Tim is like, hey, I found this out. | ||
| I'm investigating this. | ||
| We need to cover this for the show. | ||
| I'm like, great, perfect. | ||
| Send me the information. | ||
| And then like this notion that you have all your notes put together, I was just like, wow, every single show you see, every figure statistic number he has, you can make the arrogant decision of being like, I already knew that. | ||
| I'm aware of this topic, this subject. | ||
| No, you're not because I wasn't. | ||
| And I get more informed every time I listen to him, especially on Sunday when we do the prepared segments. | ||
| But hey, just coming in today for a Tuesday, Thursday show, you already had so much prepped on that topic. | ||
| I'm just like, wow. | ||
| You know, so like, look, if you want that level of dedication and commitment and love of the game, then you need to follow Tim Tompkins on X at Truism Tim. | ||
| It's up in our graphic. | ||
| You can see it on the show. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's linked in your bio. | ||
| So it's underneath me. | ||
| We're kind of swapped there. | ||
| But you got to go give him a follow on X. You got to go do it. | ||
| You got to share the stuff because look, we're doing it for you. | ||
| And ultimately, we appreciate it so much when people show interest in the show. | ||
| And I know we appreciate that as a group, but I know you're putting in so much hard work on these segments. | ||
| I know it would mean a lot of people. | ||
| Just the quality too. | ||
| Like the reason why I didn't want us to be in Bin Laden's cave anymore. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like he got the new background, guys. | ||
| You know, all these new sets like that. | ||
| And I like the transitions. | ||
| Like everything is like, you know what? | ||
| Let's make this as professional for you guys and not just feel like this is just some backyard recording where we're just recording this out of your dining room, which we are, but this looks amazing. | ||
| It's the, it's, I appreciate that. | ||
| It's a giant thing on top of a mountain. | ||
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Yes. | |
| This is like a shinobi cave. | ||
| But yeah, thank you guys. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| And just we'll say it again: magic words. | ||
| Please follow Truism Tim on X and follow Gray Area Talks. | ||
| Look, if you want to see our clips, if you're interested in our show, you want to see more of it, what we've covered in the past, follow our clip channel or clip page on X at Gray Area Talks. | ||
| But thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you guys. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Have a good night. |
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