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Oct. 16, 2025 - Gray Area - Rex Jones & Tim Tompkins
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tim tompkins
Can you guys hear me now?
I am now talking.
I muted myself.
Can you guys hear me now?
Awesome.
All right.
Nice.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
Let me go check Rumble real quick.
Yeah, I'm going to go check Rumble real quick.
Guys, this took me an hour to figure out.
No, I just need to double check.
Because I have it as this is a test.
I'm definitely going to end this.
I'm just going to check Rumble real quick.
Oh.
All right.
Rumble is working.
Nice.
Nice.
I don't know if we can check Rumble chats though.
Let me see if I can.
That would be sick if I can do this.
Oh, that's awesome, bro.
So all of our chats will show up across platforms, which is nice.
All right, cool.
All right, guys.
I'm going to end this.
I'm sorry.
This was just a test.
We are going live in about 15 minutes.
I just needed to make sure this works.
We are now going to be live on Rumble X and YouTube starting today.
So this is a beautiful thing.
it took me a minute to figure this out, but we will be back shortly.
unidentified
Okay.
rex jones
That's easy.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
It's a lot better than before.
And which one is our regular?
tim tompkins
The one diagonally, right?
With the two heads.
And no, two heads and the screen.
rex jones
I see it.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Okay.
Just doing a test.
All right.
tim tompkins
So, all right.
rex jones
And let's verify real quick, one last time that it is, in fact, good on my live.
And did it post it automatically?
That's the big thing.
Yes, it did.
That's fucking cool.
tim tompkins
All right.
So now go to the little tab in the top right so we can copy and paste the rumble link on the other screen.
Yeah.
unidentified
This one.
tim tompkins
Yeah, there's a rumble.
rex jones
Oh, I see it.
unidentified
This one, not that one, that one, that one uh, refresh that page.
tim tompkins
Just make sure it's the correct.
unidentified
Okay cool yeah, copy uh three dots, or you could do that.
tim tompkins
All right, then tweet it out, you think yeah, you can either do that or you can just add it in the chat of this comment.
rex jones
Can I pin it, though?
tim tompkins
You could pin it?
Or like how, how well, pin the chat here?
rex jones
I mean, do I just you want me to make a post about it here?
tim tompkins
Or like inside of here yeah, that's fine.
unidentified
I mean oh, I see what's happening.
tim tompkins
No, don't do it.
Well, can you, I?
rex jones
I don't know if I can try it.
tim tompkins
Right click enter and then will it work and then try to.
unidentified
No, it won't, let me do it here.
rex jones
I'll, i'll do.
I'll do this.
Actually, we'll figure out a better way to do this in the future, but this will be fine for now.
For people that are looking for it, yep, all right.
Thank you guys for joining us on Rumble.
This is a big deal.
It's the first time we're ever streaming concurrently on UH X and on rumble, and it's been a long road to get here, but we're finally working it out.
Yeah buddy, i'm a smart.
I'm a smart guy like that that's.
tim tompkins
That's how I operate, you know, just a little bit tarted, but only took us an hour.
rex jones
Yeah, pretty cool.
But how are you doing, Tim?
You just took a trip to Vegas.
tim tompkins
Vegas was nice, guys.
Vegas was nice.
I I did a lot of things.
Uh, did a lot atving in the Mojave, and this guy doesn't even gamble.
No, I don't.
I know i'm gonna lose.
rex jones
This guy's a straight arrow.
tim tompkins
I'm telling you, I know i'm gonna lose.
I'm like, why do I need to lose my money?
That's a money conscious thing.
rex jones
Otherwise, I would be playing like roulette right, I would just have a couple grand set aside and I would go play poker, or I would go enter a poker tournament and then like, i'd be like okay, I either win or I lose, and i'm probably gonna lose, but that's the calculation.
So while you were gone, this big news story broke about the Uh, Republican or Young Republican group chat where they're all kind of, you know, like Hitler and such things.
What do you think about this?
tim tompkins
Oh, there's a lot to talk about that and we'll talk about that as we get more people in.
Yeah, but the thing is, these people did, these people did try to recruit me.
By the way, I firmly just said no at that point I I saw it was.
It was kind of interesting.
There was one guy I really liked and it was cool what he was trying to do.
He's trying to start his own chapter of Young Republicans, so his was better.
But the OG one here in Travis, County of Austin man oh, talk about like a fraternity.
rex jones
Well yeah, you know, you gotta, you gotta do the secret ritual to get in.
unidentified
Yeah, you gotta grease the leader man.
tim tompkins
Yeah, the guy who tried to recruit me super polished, you could just tell he was just like the Gavin Newsom times 10, right.
rex jones
I mean, like you're a tall guy, you're a good looking guy and they probably came up to you And they go, hey, you know, like you can be a part of our thing.
tim tompkins
Yeah, I was at this event, though, like, um, for Travis County, and then he was running for something.
So I'll get into that shortly when we've got more people in here because I want people to understand.
rex jones
No, but it's fun.
unidentified
We can do a little trailer, a little teaser trailer.
rex jones
Like, where were you at when this happened?
tim tompkins
Um, we'll go over this all again.
When this happened, I was in Austin.
I had like just looked up local, like, Republican events.
rex jones
Go check something out.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but it was like they have like an organization here that does like almost a little bit of punditry, but like they're on like the local grassroot levels, like those guys who just go out and get people to vote and shit like that.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
But it was like a bunch of boomers in a room.
And this one young guy was trying to like pitch himself for this one position.
I forget what the position was, as like a cabinet member of whatever org they had.
As like, I could tell he was just doing it to get like that little star under his belt.
rex jones
Right, right.
Well, I'm a member of the young Republicans.
I'm a leader.
unidentified
No, the way he talked was like, you should vote for me.
Hey, you're a snapper, young whipper snapper man.
tim tompkins
You should definitely, you should definitely join the Young Republicans Club.
You know, we, we like to do a lot of things here.
And it was like the most NPC, like fake personality you could possibly like.
If you could take a textbook gang, you know, like if you could take the textbook, like, okay, pop the political people on how they're supposed to be like on a TV level, like people just roasting.
rex jones
That was like, you see how, but you recognize because you're in business and you're a businessman like myself when someone's trying to sell to you, right?
And that's that's the thing, right?
Like, I remember like the second or third conversation we had because I was like, hey, we should go get something to eat and just talk, right?
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
And we're hanging out.
tim tompkins
Normal.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
And then like we had someone try to sell to us, right?
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
And like we both recognize what that is.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
He's like, hey, I heard you guys' conversation.
unidentified
I'm like, first of all, you're like, you're listening to us.
tim tompkins
Yeah, exactly.
And I could tell he was trying to get our contact information, but I was, but you made the right call.
You were like, yeah, I don't really hand my number out like that.
But, you know, not today.
rex jones
I respect the hustle, but not today.
And like that, that's ultimately how you have to be.
You know, my roommate, I'm not friends with this person.
I met this person one time.
My roommate and some of my roommates' friends.
They know one of these young Republican type people.
And the guy literally walks around all day in a suit.
Now, look, I got suits.
I got sports jackets and I'll wear them if I go on like a nice show or something.
It's about the persona.
It's about being a part of the club.
Yeah, these people thing.
tim tompkins
These people have like slick back hair, geled.
Like you can just see there, they got the little red tie on, the whole get up.
And it's crazy because the way he was describing it to me, he was like, it was almost like literally like a fraternity for young people with like also girls and stuff like that.
And they have their own little mixers.
And, you know, I was just like, what in the world is this?
rex jones
Right.
Well, I mean, like my dad, he's like, look, Turning Point USA, it's a dating club.
It's for young people who get laid.
That is true.
tim tompkins
Pretty much what it is.
rex jones
Ultimately, at the end of the day, right?
But, you know, what does being a conservative mean?
Being a conservative means ultimately in this atmosphere that you're like, you're about representing money in power.
That's how that's how I see it.
Right.
And like that, that's kind of how they come off.
And to me, we talked about like that Brylon Hollyhand guy.
Like it really is that manicured performance of like, oh, I am this thing, you know?
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
And like, you like me because I'm this thing or you like me because you want to be this thing.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's, it's, it's interesting because they're like more polished.
And then the Dems are like more just like fucking angry and just screaming and just like it's more hipster.
Hipster.
Yeah.
I'm just like, what?
These are not representation of the people.
rex jones
I would argue it's more original, to be honest, like the like hipster grunge, like trash can people, like with like the multicolored hair and whatnot.
Yeah, they're that on and off the scene.
tim tompkins
Well, I imagine more like an AOC, you know, like that's that's how I picture like an establishment lib establishment lib who's just trying to like appeal to that younger demographic by just like she is young.
I'll give her credit.
She got in pretty fucking early in her career.
So it's right.
It's just, it's all, it's all like one big slop fest of just, I don't understand the outcomes of these whole things.
But yeah, we'll, we'll get more into that for sure.
rex jones
Right.
So real quick in the chat, they say, is Austin, Texas better than California?
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
rex jones
But that doesn't mean come here.
tim tompkins
He doesn't, he doesn't like us outsiders coming in.
rex jones
Well, you're not, you're not from California, so you're fine.
Ultimately, you're from Connecticut.
It's a little bit different.
Still, like people from New York, there's a lot of those people here, but it's really people from the Bay Area that we don't like.
And California is kind of used as a derogatory term here.
tim tompkins
Well, the thing is, is like you look at a house and you see it's like 350,000 or like 400K and you're like, you look at the $2 million property that's basically a rinky-dink shack that was run down from like the 1950s.
It's like a no-brainer.
Because for a million dollars here, you get a freaking McMansion.
You're talking like a good acre of land.
rex jones
We're talking about like five, six bedroom house.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Exactly.
tim tompkins
But yeah, if you're thinking about Texas, definitely a good move.
Yes, the Rumble chat is appearing on all this.
rex jones
You can do other things on your devices now.
tim tompkins
Oh, and we can see YouTube on here too.
This is beautiful.
rex jones
Yeah, we can see everything.
It's very, very cool.
And please, if you're watching us and you're not subscribed, please subscribe to the gray area on YouTube and Rumble.
You do us a huge favor by doing that.
We really appreciate everyone that does that.
And we're doing shows based on your questions and comments.
So we do.
I saw someone mention something about the Crusades.
We'll definitely cover that.
It's a great topic.
We're going to do a World War II deep dive.
tim tompkins
But this Sunday, I'm planning on getting into that World War II dive.
I just got to take a little time to do some deep diving as I always do, but I'll have something good.
rex jones
And we're really like Sunday, we'll probably have to do a three-hour show because we're also going to have Matt Baker.
tim tompkins
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Maybe that's more.
rex jones
But no, no, we can do the whole thing.
I'm cool doing more filming if you're cool with it.
We can get more people watching anything.
tim tompkins
You're talking about second half, basically.
rex jones
We could do him first if you want.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we'll do him first and then we'll get into the other thing.
Hold on, let me see something.
unidentified
Yeah, go ahead.
tim tompkins
I don't like having both of these guys on.
rex jones
You're fine.
Because we can see everything.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we can see everything here.
Oh, I love this.
rex jones
I love it.
It's super nice.
I wish there was a dark mode.
tim tompkins
There is.
rex jones
Yeah, there is.
unidentified
There is.
rex jones
Let's not fuck with it now.
tim tompkins
I almost changed it to dark mode, but I was like, all right, let me just leave it.
rex jones
Thank you, New Groiper.
tim tompkins
New Groiper.
Tell us more about who you are.
Annie, are you talking about me?
rex jones
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
Annie, I am the new guy on the block.
So a little background for me.
I'm originally born and raised in Connecticut.
Lived in New York for a while in Boston.
So I'm an East Coaster, New England, true and blue.
And then I kind of like switched gears after I had gone to college, moved to Kansas, which was a decent experience.
But that was like my first exposure to like the Midwest and the Southwestern kind of like hospitality.
And then I moved from there to Texas.
Dude, and it's just like life has just been amazing here in Texas.
I've met Rex.
We only met like three months ago.
rex jones
That's really crazy.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And the whole thing about this is like, I'm not, I don't have that media background.
I'm more of a business entrepreneur, finance.
Like I own my own business.
I own real estate.
rex jones
That's how we met because I was working on business stuff downtown and a mutual friend introduced us to each other.
It kind of went from there.
He's a good guy.
I mean, I always say this, like you're a mechanical engineer.
Worked for some of the defense companies, some of the biotech companies.
So, you really have a background on the technical side for a lot of these like big issue topics that we discussed.
Yeah, I'm really that's where he really gelled because, like, I have a lot of media experience, but I don't have that insider knowledge.
tim tompkins
Yeah, and that's how this really works well.
Because for me, like, I love finance, economics, I love um, you know, things about engineering and those type of technical things.
Rex is really big, like, he knows everybody in the space, he knows a lot about media, you know, a lot about supplements, just everything.
And it just kind of like nice, like, right, contrast between like different things that we each know.
But that's just a little bit about me, right?
rex jones
What age did you start?
Did you start smoking?
Look, okay, the cigarettes, I've stopped doing that.
I couldn't find my nicotine pouches.
I'm hitting a jewel.
It's it's not a cigarette, so I'm not breaking my promise to you people.
But at the same time, I know it's bad, I know it's not good, whatever.
Ultimately, like high school, right?
I mean, just kind of like my dad did too, but it is what it is.
It's not good, but it is what it is.
I like the idea of coming at this from a different background.
Thank you.
Uh, Tucker coming soon, but he's in Austin right now.
Yeah, I hear there are big things in the work, and I Nick is going to be in studio tomorrow at Infowars.
You definitely want to catch that.
I'm sure it'll be some point during the Alex Jones show.
I'm sure he'll announce when at the beginning of the broadcast.
I don't think he'll be on for the full three hours, it'll definitely be like an hour or two maximum.
But Nick will be in studio tomorrow.
I'm not going to go up there.
I don't want to dick ride.
I don't want to, I'm not trying, I'm not trying to harvest cloud.
I've met Nick before, Nick is a great guy, but Nick's on a whole nother level, and I'm not trying to attach myself to him in any way.
But he is in studio, and I hear that Tucker thing is going to happen.
I wonder when and why that won't be.
tim tompkins
Your daddy, dad's doing some pretty big things right now, yeah, yeah, he did Tucker.
rex jones
That did really well.
Tucker interview.
tim tompkins
Um, I was not, I was not expecting that one, yeah.
rex jones
You know, he said he said, Kanye, look like he was on like six hits LSD or like uh MDMA.
I don't believe that.
I was there when Kanye was there, he was just seemed really weird, but I don't think he was rolling or anything.
Hitting a jewel gay, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
tim tompkins
They came out when I was in high school to someone asked about is silver going up.
Is that silver is going up, guys?
At the end of the day, like this is my investment strategy, and do not, I'm not a financial advisor, but those hard assets, like gold, silver, like those are two staples that will be around forever.
And those are things like if the U.S. just implodes from all the debt we've been acquiring and all this fake money printing, that's the first thing that's going to defend you from anything.
All that money you have in your bank account, just well, it's hard assets that you'd want anyway, right?
rex jones
Right.
That's that's my thing, you know.
Like, when I get more money, like I, I just got a big month on one of my stores.
I'm not going to disclose too much information, but I'm going to have the ability to order some uh knockout sleep support.
I'm going to reformulate it and release it to people.
It's a classic product we used to have, but I'm going to bring it back to one of my stores.
And like, when I get money, I typically order product with it, right?
That's like we've been doing that as well with this new brand that we're doing.
Yeah, we invest in physical goods that we can sell people, but you know, eventually, I think we do want people to be able to pay in like Bitcoin and stuff.
tim tompkins
Yeah, the Bitcoin would be crazy.
rex jones
We got to figure that out.
tim tompkins
The um, the crypto is also a good investment.
I was really skeptical, I was very skeptical.
unidentified
We lost our camera here, did we?
Yeah, we did.
Uh, okay, I went back to the multi-view, okay.
rex jones
That's the dog cam.
All right, little error.
I got to make sure not to kick that thing, the button.
It's hard.
tim tompkins
Um, as far as crypto, crypto is we're also going to talk about that with all the grifting that's happening with that.
I'm so disappointed in our country right now, but um, crypto is going to be one of those solid assets.
I was really unsure about it about three years ago, but then now like everyone's buying it, including governments.
Like, it's just it's here to stay.
uh dog is on the couch guys i'm sorry right and you know like we made this point before like they'll tie the debt to a crypto coin and then make everyone buy it yeah though i think what america will do is they'll probably create their own like probably american digital coin of some sort and then make the 37 trillion dollars just disappear by making everybody buy that coin it's it's yeah wait where's the dog i shocked the dog This actually isn't a vape.
rex jones
This is a shock device.
And every time I hit it, I shock the dog with it.
Just like Hassan, you know, because we want, place, place, stay in place.
You know, like that, that shit's crazy.
You haven't seen the videos yet.
tim tompkins
I haven't seen it.
rex jones
I've heard about it.
tim tompkins
I've heard about it, though.
rex jones
I mean, here's the thing with all these people.
They're so fake.
Like, everything is like a set piece, right?
So he's got this big dog, but it's just to like look cute.
Oh, I'm a dog person.
So the women like me and they donate money to me.
He just like zaps the dog.
No, bad.
But like, whatever.
tim tompkins
No, he would never.
He loves his dog too much, guys.
rex jones
We love Rupert.
Rupert gets spoiled.
Rupert gets way too much food and Rupert is fat.
I took Rupert to the Vetigan.
He gained more weight.
tim tompkins
More.
unidentified
God.
rex jones
It's really bad.
tim tompkins
But you're like walking him every day.
He's like moving.
He's active.
rex jones
I think he hadn't used the body that morning.
I think it was kind of just an internal thing.
You know, because the poops are really big.
unidentified
Gotcha.
Yeah.
rex jones
A Fed coin.
Yeah, I think that's possible.
Where's the dog?
He's on the couch.
tim tompkins
He's on the couch.
rex jones
Love knockout.
Glad to hear it's going back.
Yeah, I'm going to have to change the name a little bit.
I'll probably have to call it like knock it out instead of knockout.
But yeah, it's coming back.
It'll be the same formula, actually improve with more ingredients.
Rogan hosted the debate.
No, I think my dad's going to host that debate.
I could be wrong about that, but like he's the type of dude that would do that.
Vapes are gay.
tim tompkins
Dude, honestly, the vape is better than the cigarette.
I'll have him do the vape all day.
rex jones
I'm not going to be doing this much longer.
This is just a one-off.
Don't give your dog the shots, guys.
One in four dogs die of cancer all of a sudden.
Yeah, but if he if he bites someone or if he like menaces something or bites another dog and he doesn't have the rabies shot, they'll put him down.
tim tompkins
Yeah, they will.
rex jones
So he's got to get some things, right?
But it is, it is sad.
King Rupert.
That's right.
King Rupert.
tim tompkins
Well, let's get into it.
rex jones
Let's get into the article.
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But let's go ahead and get to the article.
So you can take the lead on this, Tim.
tim tompkins
So I love HIPAA.
rex jones
Here, clip that.
tim tompkins
I'm sure everybody has been keeping up with this one.
But if you did not know, yesterday there were some leaked chats that were part of this organization called the Young Republicans.
We were kind of touching upon it earlier, but these chats are pretty bad, guys.
rex jones
Ah, come on.
tim tompkins
Okay, here's the thing.
rex jones
For them, yeah.
tim tompkins
For them, it's bad.
As a high-level arching, I can kind of see the case of like these are just dumb frat boy high school college kids and just like saying crazy stuff.
But I'll give you my analysis on this a little bit after we kind of get into like what this is.
rex jones
But I view these as hilarious jokes.
tim tompkins
So like the like Politico says, so this, these chats were released to Politico.
There was a guy.
What was his name again?
Let's pull up the X with all of this stuff going on.
rex jones
I don't have it right now.
I think his name's Gavin Wax.
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
But we have the affidavit.
tim tompkins
Affidavit.
rex jones
We'll read it here.
tim tompkins
We want to do that.
Oh, well, the political show.
rex jones
Read it later, but he's got the name of the guy in here, I believe.
tim tompkins
All right, whatever.
Yeah, it's okay.
Let's go back to politics.
rex jones
Go ahead.
tim tompkins
So, scroll down.
unidentified
We'll read a little bit of the article.
rex jones
Leaders of young Republican groups throughout the country worried what would happen if their Telegram chat ever got leaked, but they kept typing anyway.
They referred to black people as monkeys and the watermelon people and mused about putting their political opponents in gas chambers.
They talked about raping their enemies and driving them to suicide and landed Republicans or lauded Republicans who they believe support slavery.
William Hendricks, the Kansas Young Republicans vice chair, used the words, I'll let you do this, Tim and Nigo variations of a racial slur more than a dozen times in the chat.
Bobby Walker, the vice chair of the New York state young Republicans at the time, referred to rape as epic.
Ooh, that's interesting.
Okay, Peter Gwinta, who at the time was chair of the same organization, wrote a message sent in June that said, Everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.
Gwenta was referring to an upcoming revote on whether he should become chair of the Young Republican National Federation, the GOP's 1500 or 15,000 member political organization for the Republicans between 18 and 40 years old.
So you're a young Republican if you're 35.
tim tompkins
Yeah, it's 18 to 40.
rex jones
That's pretty.
Oh, dude, this reminds me.
I got a quick little anecdote and we'll get to the story.
You know, when I was little, when I was like 12, 13 years old, my dad was like, you got to go to, you got to do some more public speaking.
I was like, I think I already know how to do this just fine.
And he's like, no, no, no, you got to go to Toastmasters.
So I went to this Toastmasters thing with a family relative and like that guy was crazy and ended up crashing out later.
That's a long story, kind of irrelevant to the discussion today.
But it's literally this event where you have like immigrant people, like Chinese people, Indian people, like Korean people that speak English as like a second or third language.
And the job is to like present a speech, right?
And then you have like these like white dudes, like these like middle-aged white dudes that wear like blazers and stuff, and they go and like lord over the immigrants because they can speak English like a lord of the flock.
That's what this reminds me of a little bit.
But replace, you know, second or third language with just plain and inexperienced.
tim tompkins
But most of these guys are young, though.
Right.
You don't have a lot of 40-year-olds.
They're mostly in that like 18 to like 30 range.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
I'm going to create some of the greatest physiological torture methods known to man.
We only want true believers, he continued.
Two members of the chat responded.
Everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.
And everyone that endorsed but then votes for us is going to the gas chamber.
When do we start bullying, dude?
We have a solid three people who probably can have them want to jump.
Does that mean jump them, I guess?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
If they vote for us, why would they be gassed?
When do we bring that side out?
I'm going to create some of the greatest physiological torture methods known to man.
We only want true believers.
Can we fix the showers?
Gas chambers don't fit the Hitler aesthetic.
I'm ready to watch people burn now.
We got to pretend that we like them.
Hey, come on in.
Take a nice shower and relax.
unidentified
Boom.
rex jones
They're dead.
tim tompkins
Oh, that's a wild.
rex jones
Well, I mean, I just, I don't, I don't necessarily understand the context here.
I guess this is for like some like local election.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Like how retarded?
Well, you're talking this person released thousands of chats.
So this is just like one snippet of the entire thing.
rex jones
Right.
But this is what Politico released.
So this is like the juicy.
tim tompkins
Right.
And also the Dems are eating this stuff up like it's fucking candy.
They're just like double downing.
rex jones
So whatever.
tim tompkins
Keep going.
rex jones
I'm ready to watch people burn.
The exchange is a part of Trove of Telegram chats obtained by Politico and spending more than seven months of messages among young Republican leaders in New York, Kansas, Arizona, and Vermont.
The chat offers an unfiltered look at how a new generation of GOP activists talk when they think no one is listening.
Listening since Politico began making inquiries, one member of the group chat is no longer employed at their job and a number another job offer was rescinded.
Prominent New York Republicans, including Reb Lee Stefanik and state Senate minority leader Rob Oort, have denounced the chat and festering resentments among young Republicans have now turned into public recriminations, including allegations of character assassination and extortion.
A liberating atmosphere.
2,900 pages of chat shared among a dozen millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August chronicle their campaign to seize control of the National Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform.
Many of the chat members already worked and studied government or party politics.
And one, I'm a state senator now.
I'm very important.
Yeah.
I mean, dude, it's literally like, I know a guy like this.
Like, he literally struts around all day in a suit.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Like, that's the whole personality.
tim tompkins
So I'll give you guys a little background into like what the young Republicans are and like how that operation works.
But basically, like you saw earlier, this is a national federation.
So like there's, it's members from 18 to 40.
They kind of like operate like a frat system for the Republican Party.
That's like the easiest way to like to create an analogy for this.
So each state and each city has its own chapter that runs like independently with its own leaders.
They've got their own events.
They've got tones that are some moderate.
Some chapters are a little bit more moderate.
Some chapters are a little bit more hardline where they're just like, you know, spewing, you know, crazy shit.
But overall, they are connected under like one organization, which is the Young Republicans National Organization, which acts as like the headquarters.
Just like if you had a fraternity or sorority, there's one overarching one and they have a bunch of chapters across different colleges.
So like they work really closely with the Republican Party and they help like run campaigns.
They do fundraisers.
They do voter outreach.
And then they even technically, they're technically separate, separate, but they function as like a training pipeline for the GOP.
So it's kind of like recruiting for the next generation of Republican leaders.
And so they like, they give these like young people hands-on experience and campaign work.
And a lot of these people go into like these, you know, offices of, you know, existing GOP members and they'll run their campaigns.
They'll do a lot of the free work for these people and the behind the scenes and doing the rallies and running around and like getting endorsements.
rex jones
In my opinion, what it really is, and we'll cut back to the camera for a second.
In my opinion, what all this really is, is ultimately, if you're one of these like minor political facelords, like you're like a state senator or something, you have to have like a gaggle of geese, like a gaggle of like other young dudes that look nice and are like in like nice clothes and the suits and the sports jacket because it creates like an air of sophistication.
Like, I'm a state senator.
Look at my boys.
He's looking like young Republicans now.
Like that, that's, that's what it is.
tim tompkins
Ultimately.
rex jones
And like they approached you, right?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I was at, and we had talked about this earlier, but I'll reiterate this for the people who just joined.
So, you know, probably like earlier this year, I had attended this like Republican event.
Like now I'm independent, just to clarify that, but I lean more.
But I lean more right.
So like, I was just curious about like what the political space was like and like local events and stuff.
Like I wouldn't go to a Democratic convention type of thing.
So long story short, I went to this event and the guy there, there was this, it was just a bunch of boomers just voting on a bunch of issues.
They didn't really have like they do like things on a local level for like the local Austin Travis County jurisdiction, like things that people don't really care about.
They vote on and run that stuff.
There's this one guy and he's like dressed up like to the nines.
unidentified
He's got like this suit on.
tim tompkins
He's got his hair slicked back.
He's just like looking like a true politician.
And he gets up and he goes and gives like this speech because he wanted to get this chair at the event.
And he's just, he's he goes after the event and he comes up to me and I start talking to him and I'm asking him like, oh, and he's like, yeah, I'm part of the Young Republicans Club, you know, you should join young man.
Like, and the dude's younger than me, by the way.
unidentified
And he like, he gives me his business card.
tim tompkins
He's like, here you go.
unidentified
And he's just talking and he's like, yeah, yeah.
tim tompkins
And it's like the most like my all my radars is like, this is the most disingenuous person that I could possibly deal with in this circumstance.
And I'm like, there's probably a bunch of little minions just like you running in this organization.
And there was another kid that was next to me that was listening to it.
And we just joked about the whole time at the end of this thing and being like, dude, that guy was an NPC.
There's no way he was real.
People always talk about Gavin Newsome and how like polished he is.
Like multiply that by like 20 with this guy.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
So, of course, I didn't go.
They opened up another chapter which had like they had they were newer to the Travis County, but they were a little bit more normal.
I went to those ones just for a little bit.
But overall, I was just like, I'm not, I'm not, I don't want to be part of like the fucking, you know, boots on the ground slop that I have to just be raised into one demographic and just basically be brainwashed.
Like, I'd rather have, if I'm going to get into political, I'd rather go a different route on my own and figure it out from there.
But yeah, that's my story.
People might have other ones.
rex jones
He was working you or trying to sell to you.
tim tompkins
Dude, he was definitely trying to sell me on it.
He was like, yeah, we've got mixers.
And if you're looking for a pretty young lady, we do a bunch of mixers where you might be able to find yourself on the roofing photos of you.
And here, and mind you guys, I would probably be the only black person in that room.
rex jones
That's why they wanted you.
tim tompkins
That's why they, I'm the DEI.
That's what I'm the token black guy that they can say, like, oh, he's part of the Republican Party.
But yeah, I don't know.
rex jones
Well, let's read more of these people's messages.
Let's read more of it.
I'll read more of the article.
tim tompkins
Are they down here?
Okay, just keep going.
rex jones
Who's this guy?
Whoa.
That Maxwell's been eating too much.
tim tompkins
I think that's one of the guys.
rex jones
Oh, he's based.
Based.
tim tompkins
No.
rex jones
Oh, that's Peter Gwenta.
tim tompkins
Oh, Guenta.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
It's always an Italian.
Look at Fuentes.
Look at this guy.
It's always an Italian.
tim tompkins
So the group, it says the group spoke freely about what?
rex jones
The group chat spoke freely about the pressure to cow to Trump.
That's not how you spell cow in this sense.
The person writing this article is kind of an idiot to Trump to avoid being called the rhino, which means Republican in name only.
The love of Nazis within their party's right wing and the president's alleged work to suppress documents related to wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein's child sex crimes.
Trump's too busy burning the Epstein files based.
Based Alex Dwyer, the chair of Kansas Young Republicans wrote in one instance, Dwyer and Katie Katie or KKD declined to comment.
Maligno and Hendrix did not return requests for comments, but some involved in the chat did respond publicly.
This, the Italian guy, the fat Italian guy who's based, Gwenta claimed the release of the chat is part of a highly coordinated year-long character assassination led by Gavin Wax in the New York City Young Republican Club.
In allusion to, I got a burp, allusion to a once-obscured intercene war, which is now spilled into the open.
The logs were sourced by way of extortion and provided to Politico by the very same people conspiring against me.
What's most disheartening is that despite my unwavering support of President Trump since 2016, rogue members of this administration, including Gavin Wax, have participated in the conspiracy to ruin me publicly simply because I challenged them privately.
Wax, a staffer in Trump State Department, formerly led the New York Young Republican Club, a separate city-based group that is at odds with the state organization.
The New York State Young Republicans, he declined to comment.
Despite his allusions to infighting, Guinto still apologized.
I'm sorry.
Who are those who are offended?
Never apologize.
That's rule number one.
That's the big mistake.
He could have had a whole career out of this if you just didn't apologize.
tim tompkins
Why not apologize?
rex jones
Bro, you never apologize.
You doubled down.
He would have had, you know, 100,000 subscribers the next day.
And it could have become a big media figure.
He may still do that.
But the number one rule of this is you never apologize to these people.
I created during my campaign to lead the Young Republicans while I take complete responsibility.
Oh, no.
I have had no way of verifying their accuracy and I'm deeply concerned the message logs in question may have been deceptively doctored.
At least one person in Telegram chat works in the Trump administration, Michael Bartells, who, according to his LinkedIn account, serves as senior advisor in the office of general counsel within the United States Small Business Administration.
Bartells did not have much to say in the chat, but he didn't offer any pushback against the offensive rhetoric in it either.
He declined to comment.
tim tompkins
I don't like that.
See, that's just the left-leaning of Politico.
You see how they try to like phrase that shit.
rex jones
All right, we'll break it down.
tim tompkins
I mean, look, you see, Bartells did not have much to say in the chat, and he didn't offer any pushback.
That's the line right there.
He didn't offer any pushback.
rex jones
He's just in the chat.
He's just in the chat.
Yeah, it makes sense.
tim tompkins
Guilty by association is how they're trying to paint this.
rex jones
That's bullshit.
A notarized affidavit signed by Bartell's and obtained by Politico also sheds light on the intra-party rivalry that led to the Restore Young Republican War Room telegram chat to be made public.
Bartels references Wax as well.
He wrote that he did not give Politico the chat and that Wax demanded in a phone call that he provide the full chat log.
Yes, and we have that affidavit here.
This comes from Milo Yiannopoulos.
And I believe, yeah, this is Bartell's.
It's the same thing.
So this is an affidavit, which is a sworn statement that someone makes under penalty of perjury.
But an affidavit is.
I, Michael R. Bartells of Washington District of Columbia, being duly sworn to poses affirm upon oath.
I was in the group chat.
To my knowledge, the Restore Young Republican group chat is the same group that Politico has attempted to obtain.
I was on August 16th, 2025, the executive secretary of the New York Young Republican Club.
I was demanded to provide a full log of the Restore YR chat by Gavin Wax over a dispute about related matters on August 16th, 2025.
unidentified
Wow.
rex jones
The demand was made via telephone and, to my knowledge, was not recorded.
When I attempted to resist that demand after providing some of the requested information, Wax threatened my professional standing and raised the possibility of potential legal action related to an alleged breach of a non-disclosure agreement.
My position within the New York Republican club was directly threatened.
After this conversation, when I did not provide the logs, I was removed from access for most Young Republican communications channels, leadership chats, and his company email.
Multiple contacts also began to receive alleged details of my personal life from Wax.
After these events took place, I provided Gavin Wax' associate, Nathan Berger, with the archived logs of the group of the group text.
I did not have definitive knowledge of what happened to the logs after that point, blah, blah, blah.
I did not give the logs to Politico under penalty of perjury.
And that's him saying, hey, this is for real.
This is the facts because I'll go to court over this.
This is the truth.
So like what I get from all this, and I'll pull up Gavin Wax here.
I'll go ahead and pull that up right now.
What I get from this is it's the same political, like muck-raking, wheel and dealing stuff that's always been done, but it's done in the modern context, right?
And if you're in one of these political groups and you're a group chat with like the other heads of the young Republicans, it seems a bit foolish, but at the same time, you know, here's my thing.
The chat's bad, whatever.
Ultimately, there's going to be more hate on the people that released them and tried to make a bone off of it than the people that made the chats.
And that's the world we live in now because everyone's starting to understand the internet.
tim tompkins
I guess it depends on which angle you look at it.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
Well, I mean, from for immediate, like their careers are fucked.
unidentified
Right.
Oh, yeah.
tim tompkins
I mean, they mentioned that several people are getting fired already for this.
Forget about a political career.
These people are toast.
Like, I'm sure they're all crying in their beds tonight.
They're probably not able to sleep.
rex jones
It's the wrong attitude.
I think I could make lemons out of lemonade here.
I really do believe that because like this is a political op, right?
This guy, this individual right here, this is the dude.
That's someone else's tweet.
I don't want to disparage the man.
I want to use my own voice to do it.
This is the guy that comes in and decides, hey, this is how I'm going to win favors.
This is how I'm going to become a political guy.
This is how I'm going to make my name in these circles.
I'm going to go betray the people that I pretended were my friends.
And I'm going to do it.
I'm going to get in with the end crowd because this is a big pro-Israel guy, all this stuff.
He's a part of the end club, you see.
And the other people, you know, talking about Epstein files, talking about Trump.
Ooh, no, no, no.
You don't get to do that.
tim tompkins
So help me understand this.
This guy right here, he's the one that's responsible for the leaks.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
Was he the one threatened or he threatened somebody else that they need to release this?
rex jones
He threatened someone else and then he released it himself.
tim tompkins
Okay.
That's what he threatened numerous people.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
Where's his angle on this?
What is it?
There's something in this for him that he's looking for at the end of the day.
rex jones
Political favor and showing that, hey, I'm a part of the club.
I'm an attack dog.
I'll go do whatever you need me to do.
Like, this is good for the establishment Republicans.
This is very good for them because they want these people out of their party.
They want to have total control over their system.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
They don't want to have insurgents.
tim tompkins
You could take it that way, or they can see this as like, oh, he's a rat.
He's a snitch.
Can we trust him later on, right?
This is like really they're eating it up.
rex jones
This dude is like partying in DC right now, I'm sure.
tim tompkins
But here's the thing: like, I'm looking at people coming out as Republicans, um, and you see, like, a bunch of these congressmen, like, condemning because they have to publicly say, like, this isn't the face.
But don't you think this makes the Republican Party look bad in the eyes of like not only just Democrats, but independent people?
rex jones
This will be forgotten in a month, but these people's careers will be ruined for years.
tim tompkins
I agree with that.
rex jones
So, like, that's what it's all.
That's what it's all about.
It's a short-term loss for a long-term gain and control, which it's all about.
This guy didn't do it out of like moral conscience.
He did it to get ahead.
Here's him tweeting about someone else.
I know of a major DeSantis influencer on here with Mountain of Old Text showing his rabid anti-Semitism and Jew hatred.
Maybe DeSantis would prosecute him.
See, he uses a legal term over the contents.
It would be a shame if those leaked.
It's like this dude is just like.
tim tompkins
He's getting famous off of it.
rex jones
He's getting famous off of it.
This is like, I'm telling you, in these big Republican circles, they love it.
tim tompkins
And he's probably going to get interviews from this shit.
He's probably going to get a bunch of interviews.
rex jones
Not actual interviews, job interviews.
He's going to get job interviews for this.
That's a good point.
That's what it's all about.
tim tompkins
That is a good point.
Here's how I take this whole thing.
I can understand the perspective of people who would be like, okay, this pisses me off.
Like, this is the face of Republicans.
These people, this is how they grow.
Like, this is a small subset.
There's no way that the entire Republican demographic all talks this way in certain aspects.
Like, you're looking at a bunch of basically college kids in a group chat.
I mean, when I was in high school, I don't know about you, but like me and my friends used to say some wild shit in group chats, just like as a joking matter.
And like they would say, here's the thing.
They would say things that people would consider racist as towards to me, but like you can take lighthearted and joking because then you fire back and call them a cracker or something like that.
It's not that deep at the end of the day.
rex jones
The watermelon people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Like I'm not sitting here saying like, oh, that's the right thing to do from like a very like front standing perspective.
rex jones
It's not a crime.
It's bad to do if you're in politics, but it's not a crime.
They're not like, you're not trying to lynch people or something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
Like, I don't think they're inherently going to be like, oh, let's go fucking put some hoods on and go out there and hang them up, boys.
Like, it's not going to be like that.
It's more like people just ignorant.
They just say shit and they just make fun.
Like you're in a, like you're in a Call of Duty game chat.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
That's what it is.
That's how I take it.
That's much worse.
I've heard crazy stuff.
rex jones
Right.
But those people, they don't mean it.
tim tompkins
They're just trying to make their boys laugh and laugh and be funny and stuff like that.
But I also don't want to defend them to the point where, like, I endorse this type of behavior because I really don't.
I think they're just like, well, I mean, it's not you, right?
rex jones
At the end of the day, but look, here's, here's the thing: someone fucks up, someone says something stupid, they say something bad, whatever.
Do we excommunicate them forever?
No, we don't do that.
I don't believe in that.
I believe people have a chance in free society to ultimately goof around.
If you're in politics, probably not a good idea at the end of the day, but to come after these people, like they're treated like they committed a crime.
They get a giant hit piece written about them, you know.
tim tompkins
Right.
rex jones
And like, look, here's the thing: people are profiting off of it.
They're getting career advancement that these people aren't getting because of what happened.
So, like, what I see it ultimately as you have people that are aligned.
You have like this Gavin guy in the city group, and then you have the kind of like county or country young Republican groups.
And the people in the city group who pretend that they're a part of like the same club as these guys, they take this opportunity to get ahead on their own people at the cost of their own organization.
Right.
This tarnishes the organization's name at the end of the day, but they make the calculations like, Yeah, I'm going to screw my boys for profit.
tim tompkins
Right.
No, that's what you can see that.
rex jones
That's my issue.
tim tompkins
But I also, the other thing I see as a problem is let's take the macro level argument and you just think about like the frame of mind or like the whole encompassing like idea of like what these people represent.
Let's say these people do eventually get into positions of power.
Let's say this group chat never was released.
Okay.
rex jones
Okay.
tim tompkins
There is a certain level of like maybe they grow out of it, but there's also a baseline of like biases that they could be creating for themselves that lets them dictate their policies, right?
rex jones
Who hasn't said something fucked up?
tim tompkins
I mean, that is true.
rex jones
It's like there are levels to fucked up.
It's just, it's not, I, I, this is like, this is like, I don't know, like jaywalking or like petty vandalism.
tim tompkins
I know.
I do sound like a liptard right now, but I am, I am like, there was a part of me that said in my head.
rex jones
We're having, we're having a, we're having a constructive argument here.
It's good.
It's good.
VP vice president JD Vance defended the young Republicans against the political hit piece against them supplied by Gavin Wax, calling the public outcry pearl clutching.
Vance pointed to the Democrat Jay Jones leaked text in which he fantasized about murdering his political opponents as far worse.
Yeah, I mean, like, look at this.
Here's the difference between like the real tone difference, right?
Where you got people kind of like trying to be silly, even if the content is fucked up.
And then you've got someone here that's like really like deep and dark.
tim tompkins
Yeah, actually, I wanted to understand this text a little bit more.
So this is just JD Vance trying to provide a counter argument, just saying like the Dems are just as bad and this person's in a position of power.
But the person who's sent this text message that JD Vance is referring to, his name is Jay Jones.
He's like the former Virginia state delegate who ran, who once ran for attorney general.
And he's part of like the Democratic side.
And so these messages were sent back in like 2022 by somebody called Carrie Coyner.
And they were a Republican delegate for in the Virginia House.
And then she's basically calling him out on these texts.
And so in like this exchange, Jones just made a shocking comment about like Todd Gilbert, who was the Republican speaker of the Virginia House and his wife, Jennifer Gilbert, who is being mentioned here.
And essentially, he's just implying that Jennifer Gilbert's children should die, trying to make like a political point that like well, he's implying her children should die because only when people feel pain personally do policy.
Yep, exactly.
rex jones
So like it would be like the young Republican group chat are like, yes, these people need to feel pain so we can advance our agenda.
And they're not doing that.
tim tompkins
But don't you think that level of macro like psychology of just thinking like that is the dystopian mindset that you have to have.
Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I know there's psychology to this whole thing about how humans operate and what moves the needle.
That's why like most of the content out there for like news is negative because that's what brings in viewership.
But at the same time, like this is, I'm sure there's another way to move policy other than like extreme despair.
Like this is the framing of the mind.
rex jones
I really do think that we've just entered into an age where things are both less serious and more serious at the same time.
unidentified
Okay.
tim tompkins
You can elaborate on that.
rex jones
So, you know, this isn't real life, but it's also real life, you know?
So like someone can say something, you know, and then they don't really mean anything by it, or someone can say something and they really mean it.
But the common denominator on both those issues is that it's recorded on the phone.
tim tompkins
Yeah, okay.
I see what you're saying.
It's basically like you, it doesn't matter what you say.
It's just the fact that it's out there.
People will take it as is verbatim, regardless of the intention.
rex jones
The thing is about the written word, it's not like the spoken word where you have tone and inflection, right?
Like, I hate you.
I hate you.
Like, there's a big difference there.
You know what I'm saying?
In the tone.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
It's like if like a white person says the N-word when singing a song, they get basically the same level of reprimanding as if the person who actually meant to say it as a derogatory frame of reference.
rex jones
I do that.
Be honest with you.
tim tompkins
I don't, here's the, not to get off the weeds, but like, you know, I know there's a large population of like African Americans and black people that like really get offended by, you know, other demographics saying the N-word in a song and they're like, that's our word.
For me, it's never been that deep.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
Well, ultimately, you're paying for it if you're someone's music at the end of the day, right?
tim tompkins
So they want you to say it.
I mean, you're Drake is saying it every other word.
He wants me to say it.
rex jones
Drake is a Canadian as well.
So it's an interesting situation.
tim tompkins
It's that half white that's giving him, giving you guys permission, guys.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
It's very interesting.
But look, at the end of the day, we've entered into an age where I talk about this a lot on various broadcasts.
I also talk about it on the gray area.
When you had the advent of Trump coming into the political scene in 2015, everything changed because before that, all the campaigns, all the elections, all the parties before, it was establishment Democrat and then establishment Republican.
And Republican was like cut taxes and then war.
And the Democrats were like higher taxes, but maybe we don't like the war so much.
And that was the dialectic.
And there, it's a uniparty.
They were the same.
When Trump came in, you asked everyone first, second, and third time he ran, why are you voting for Trump or why are you interested in Trump?
They would tell you, I want a wrecking ball for the system.
I just want someone that's going to go in there and break everything because he's different.
He's quote unquote, not a politician.
He's certainly a politician now.
Now, 100%.
I agree with you there.
But that was the thinking that really fueled his rise to power because it wasn't a Democrat or Republican thing.
It was a populist thing.
And now we've really returned after a decade of Trump.
We have returned to the age of the uniparty of the establishment Democrat and the establishment Republican.
And that is what these young Republican people represent anyway.
It's the Dick Cheneys.
It's the John McCain's.
It's the Mitt Romney.
It's that spirit that's come back, right?
And these kids, they didn't fit that spirit, so they had to go.
tim tompkins
Well, it's that, but then also you're conditioning the environment for how you want these people to behave in the system itself.
It's crazy because if you think about it, like there's there are former, there's, there's a bunch of people that are in positions of power and Congress and state legislation that have gone through like these organizations like the Young Republican Party.
And you just look at it like a mini club where there's expectations and a certain linear pathway that you have to follow in order to get into that position in power.
And it's almost like you're curating the political system from such an early age to where that's how this is.
rex jones
It's like a cell culture that you're going to have.
That's what it all seems like.
And, you know, the Democrats, on the high level, you know, it's, it's very inorganic and it's manicured as well.
But like these grassroots events, it's just a bunch of like lib cards crashing out at the end of the day.
And kind of rise to rises to the top as he rises to the top.
And that's why, you know, you see like the Zorhan Mamdani stuff, that's why they have more success on that state and local level is because it is at the end of the day, it is more original.
I would, I would make that argument.
tim tompkins
I think it's more original from a perspective of like you get lesser of the evils.
But even I think his message is curated in that same fashion of a political stance.
rex jones
So when you, when you attended this event, didn't it feel a little elitist to you?
Like the people like giving the speeches, you know, like they're, they kind of represent themselves as being kind of high class.
tim tompkins
No, so you're really the event that I went to was like, this is when I, when I say like literal boomers, I mean there's people that were like walking with canes in there.
Like it's just like all the people that vote on like your local issues and have like their own like system in which they're like they they're they represent each district.
Let's say Travis County and Austin has a bunch of little cells.
Like, you know, how, you know, when you have like the House of Republicans or how like the Congress is made up of, you've got districts.
That's kind of how the system works.
But like, I didn't get the elitist perspective.
It was like, it was a bunch of stuff that like you and I, being young people, don't really give a shit about, but they are actually macro level issues that affect that city.
And these people are kind of like steering because they're the only ones voting on that stuff.
Does that make sense?
rex jones
Yes, the boomer worship.
They have to appeal to the boomer because they have the money for the political donations and they vote in the east city.
tim tompkins
The way it came off was not like that.
It was more like redneck like, we gotta, we gotta get this policy out there, guys.
You gotta get out there and we gotta, we gotta vote.
We gotta march.
We gotta march tomorrow.
We don't got enough of these Republicans voting here because Austin is like true and blue.
Like it's, it's, they call it the, the blue wave.
Like there's no, like, there's no Republican that gets voted into like position of power.
rex jones
Yeah, are the DA here, Jose Garza, literally like lets criminals out on the street like immediately after they commit crimes?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
So they're like the little ragtag underdog team that's like, we're gonna take these districts.
rex jones
We're gonna take Austin back, you know?
tim tompkins
Yeah, exactly.
rex jones
Your country accent wasn't bad, but listen, we got all these demon rats.
That's what we call Democrats, and they're voting real bad.
We got to get the youth out here today.
tim tompkins
That is how it felt.
And I'm sitting there like the only black guy in the room.
And I'm just looking around and I'm like, I don't think I belong here.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
I mean, there aren't a lot of black people in Austin.
No, there really aren't.
Houston, Dallas, yeah, but like here, it really.
tim tompkins
No, there isn't.
But like in general, and it never bothered me because I was the only black person in my entire grade growing up, like out of like a thousand kids.
So like, and I went to private school.
So it never bothered me.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And, but the thing in general is, is like most black people are Democratic because they were raised in the Northeast and a lot of these bigger populations.
rex jones
Especially the elder folks, they're very into that.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
And so like, you'll notice like the Republicans are more made up of like these boomers because they're in the more rural areas.
They've got like, they're not urbanized like the rest of it.
So it was just weird.
The where the thing that you're talking about, the elitist thing came in was that one guy who tried to recruit me and be like, hey, young man, you should definitely join our club.
We've got mixers.
You can find yourself a little conservative, pretty lady, and dance on with her.
Like it was just like, that was where I got like the elitist.
And he had like this business card that was like black metal.
Ooh, oh, yes.
And it was like gold plated.
And it just like said his whole credentials and stuff and like how to contact.
And that's the disingenuous part, but he learned that behavior, right?
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
Well, I mean, that's salesmanship, you know, and like whenever someone's working you, you want to get away from them generally.
Like, unless there's like mutual benefit or like symbiosis, whenever whenever someone comes up to you in a suit trying to sell you something, you're like, eh, maybe, maybe, maybe not.
Maybe calm down, especially like not necessarily selling you like a product, but selling you a service.
Like, hey, I can help you out.
You just come help me, you know, because they're trying to get something out of you.
Right.
tim tompkins
100%.
And I do want to give love to the other guy who like was starting his own chapter.
He happened to be there and I did go to some of his meetings.
Like not all of these chapters, like I said, it's like a fraternity, right?
You've got the larger overarching organization.
And then each cell runs its own thing.
So like you can start a new chapter.
And this guy and a group of his buddies had real intentions to start like a real grassroots, like do it proper because they knew what the existing Travis County young Republicans and how it was just like a big old frat party with a bunch of like young people and just cesspool of people just trying to like get on each other and just like the melting pot of, you know, all that.
But they were trying to do like real grassroots perspective of trying to grow a branch for like the perspective of like creating real change without the slop that these other organizations were doing.
So I can't just say it's all bad.
There are good parts in it.
It's just that I don't I haven't been deep enough to really understand how the whole thing.
rex jones
I mean, the good parts in it are ultimately populist people that are trying to, you know, affect change in politics.
And what those, those people are going to hit that glass ceiling, that titanium ceiling of who runs it, right?
That's the problem.
tim tompkins
Yes, you're right.
If you try to do it the right way, you hit a wall at a certain point because you step on somebody's toes who is making or benefiting from doing the wrong thing.
rex jones
You have to do something that you don't want to do.
tim tompkins
Yes, because it's for the greater good of the party, Democratic and Republican.
rex jones
It works the same way.
tim tompkins
This works the exact same way.
rex jones
Exactly.
That's a great point, Tim.
So let's take a few questions from the listeners that scroll up in the chat a little bit.
And then let's kind of, we got a couple more things to discuss here.
And we'll kind of go into free flow, talk a little supplements, talk a little current events, news, war news, stuff going on.
If you got a question for us, you want something, you want us to cover something soon, we're happy to do it.
I'm disgusted as what has happened to Infowars.
Shit makes me sick to my stomach.
Makes me sick too.
I am going to have to start at some point.
I got to get this done before the end of the year.
I have to rewatch the entire trial and I have to talk to lawyers.
I have to learn the legality, everything, the science of everything.
I know the factoids in my head, but I don't have it all laid out.
Just kind of like the Gaza issue and the Ukraine issue.
I have to have a manila folder that's like this thick.
It's just filled with like, these are the facts.
These are the, this is the argument.
This is the information.
What was done to us was very, very wrong.
But as I look into it more and as I do more research, it is a thing, as it were, like all the damning clips, they're just buried in this mountain of evidence that I have to sift through.
And that's fine.
I got to do my due diligence.
And that's why y'all watch the show is for information and for reporting and ultimately like discovery and delivery of stuff like this.
But it's just going to take a little while.
But yes, it is fucked indeed.
To what Tim was saying about the people being NPCs, these guys are not yeno.
Don't know what that means.
Thank you, Honey Badger.
We don't have a racism problem.
We have a cultural problem in America.
We have a class problem in America.
People are too broke.
That's the issue.
No one has any money.
When you have no money, they make groups of people fight each other.
tim tompkins
It is very true.
And I just came back from Vegas and I understand why no one's fucking visiting Vegas.
The prices are outrageous out there.
rex jones
Yeah, what was that like?
tim tompkins
Dude, like I want to get like a freaking gas station pizza.
Was the worst pizza i've ever had.
It's a little personal like to slice thing was like 15 bucks and like, in the grand scheme of things, like you would say like 15 bucks oh, but like 15 bucks in like a normal sense should get you an entire piece of pizza, that entire pizza that's like a large and actually tastes way better than this.
It was like five dollars for a lemonade gas was like five dollars and i'm like what the?
Yeah, i'm like I don't understand how people are surviving off of the wages and there's no extra money at the end of the day to be able to like make movements, to do whatever you need to outside and like people are just surviving.
It's just sad.
I'm watching it in live.
rex jones
What was the demographic?
It was all old people.
tim tompkins
What happened?
rex jones
The demographic of people you saw in Vegas?
They all old.
tim tompkins
Uh, I mean so on the weekend, because I was there from the weekend going into the week.
rex jones
You're also doing events too.
You're having fun out there, not sitting in the like torture casino house.
tim tompkins
Yeah, but it it really was a lot of the older people in the casinos just like fucking hitting this, hit me again, hit me again, and they're like smoking and they're in their little like little wheelchair thing, automatic wheelchair guys, just like, not even sitting in the chair, just hitting the button from the side, like just hit me up, this is gonna get me going, like it was just, it's just interesting to see, but it was an older demographic, because you can see like okay, those are the people that probably have a little bit of money right,
and the younger people are just not able to even sustain that type of thing.
rex jones
So are any Republicans planning on standing up for Alex Jones or is everyone just a total coward?
Everyone's a total coward.
They don't care about him, they don't care about us.
Uh, Todd Blanche, the uh assistant, uh a g attorney general, he called Alex a fringe figure and like, ultimately it's not important.
It's not important.
It's important because it sets precedent and they can do what they did to him to anyone that they want.
And it's important because the DOJ helped fund the lawsuits against us.
So the government comes in and they help pay the people to sue us.
tim tompkins
Now, is that on the Dem side or are you talking because I mean, the Dems are in power?
rex jones
Yeah, they were in power, but I mean all this accelerated really under Joe Biden, the throwback Info Wars videos Rex has been posting are making me sad.
Tell the old man we say thank you, I will.
He got.
He got a little grumpy about the one where I have him walking shirtless through the office.
He got a little grumpy about that one, but I was like look, they're like 10 years old, i'm gonna put a few of them out.
I want to see him first and i'm like all right okay, and like i'll post a few more, but like it's all, it's all fun, it's.
tim tompkins
I like I enjoy seeing them right, I really do.
rex jones
I mean, at the end of the day, like my dad used to drink right, he used to drink at the office and like that's not a secret, like that's the truth.
That's why he's gotten in such good shape is because he stopped drinking, but used to be a little wild at info.
It's used to be used to be a little fun time, but used to ride the gray goose a little bit.
To be honest, it's just insane Trumps.
Trump allows this to happen to his top generals like Aj and the my pillow guy.
The loyalty only goes one way.
Yes, it does only go one way, and this is crazy.
So the my pillow guy, you ever hear about this guy?
Uh Michael, And All right, so this is like he's advertised on FOX NEWS for like over 10 years.
Like this guy's huge, he's got a massive company.
He sells like pillows and blankets, like bed linens, and he's a great guy.
tim tompkins
He's like the the, my pillow, like the, the one that they had tons of commercials for.
It's like supposed to be super comfortable.
rex jones
Interesting thing about him, he's like an ex-crackhead that found Jesus.
You know, so he like reformed his hey, he employs hundreds of people.
He's a great guy.
We know Michael and Dell slander in this house, but I did read his book where he talks about it.
And like, Michael and Dell is an incredible dude, but he came out in 2020 and he questioned the election.
He specifically questioned the Dominion voting machines, which have been banned in 130 countries.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Like there's serious issues with them.
But the voting machine company sued him.
They sued him and they've got like a billion over his head now as well.
tim tompkins
Did they win?
rex jones
Yeah.
They did.
tim tompkins
And then you're saying Trump's fighting back on his behalf.
unidentified
No.
No.
rex jones
Trump's just, you know, it is what it is.
And like, this is a guy that really like has done everything for Trump.
And Trump's met with him a lot more than he's met with my dad.
It's like they know each other.
But there's just like the Justice Department is a fucking disgrace.
tim tompkins
Well, don't you think it's because Trump is probably dealing with his own lawsuits that he's going through?
So, I mean, not that there's enough.
rex jones
He won.
He beat everything.
He's in charge now.
And the thing about Trump that's been really disturbing to see is that he's just, he's willing to make up with his enemies and just like operate on the same team with them as long as he's allowed to be the leader.
And like that, that's the real thing we notice about the Trump administration is he goes along to get along.
As long as he can be the big cheese and be important and have people kiss his butt, that's all the guy wants.
That's all that's important to Donald Trump at the end of the day.
tim tompkins
Why do you think the distancing from your dad in Michael War and all of that?
But you're saying he's responsible for that.
No, I'm saying like, why do you think Trump and you know, that the obviously the government could be doing something about this?
rex jones
Well, we have all this talk about Biden's DOJ, Biden's DOJ, the autopin, oh, the law fair.
There's literally like a weaponization of justice.
Like there's a board now like going over all this.
And there's an associate AG, Ed Martin, who's supposed to be like prosecuting all these things and bringing these Democrat law firms to task.
And they have done nothing on our behalf.
They've done nothing on Michael and Dell's behalf.
They've done nothing on a lot of people's behalfs.
And it's just, it's the signaling that is really gross.
It's like, we're fighting for you.
And it's the same thing as like Pam Bondi on her desk.
She goes, oh, I have the Epstein list right here.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
And then, oh, I didn't have it anymore.
Look, we were lied to.
I got duped.
I deserve fell for it again.
unidentified
Award.
rex jones
I voted for Trump twice and I voted for him because I thought he would end the wars, number one.
But number two, I thought he might help us because, you know, he's been put through the ringer.
The DOJ came after him unfairly.
But look, we're not important enough.
We're not cool enough.
We're not the young Republicans that wear the suits.
So like we're, it doesn't count.
tim tompkins
He is going after the people that went after him, though.
The Attorney General of New York City.
rex jones
Letitia James.
Letitia, yeah.
I mean, she is, she's a straight-up criminal.
Like, she had five properties listed as her primary residence.
She had like an apartment duplex for like multiple of them.
And she listed as like a single family home where she lived with her dad.
And then like she goes out.
Ooh, I should try to find this actually.
I'm going to try to find this right now.
She did a like political rally where she like acted like she was like Martin Luther King.
tim tompkins
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, find it.
rex jones
I'll find it real quick.
Talk for a little bit.
tim tompkins
It's just interesting because I think that's what it is.
Like he's willing to, here's the thing.
I think he's doing too much at once.
So he's got a limited bandwidth on what he's actually deciding is important to him and where his resources are going.
So he's like prioritizing like he's, he's got an ego.
He's got, he's, he's got a little bit of that narcissism going on to where like he's going to prioritize his own fights.
Like he's going to go after Letitia because she's like one of the main ringleaders that went after him and did this whole law affair situation.
unidentified
All right.
rex jones
I found a little bit of it.
The longer clip is better.
I'm going to look a little bit longer.
tim tompkins
New York City is cooked, man.
rex jones
Yeah, it is.
tim tompkins
All right.
rex jones
Here, this might be it.
network.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
unidentified
She's a kid.
She's a kid.
She's not a kid.
She's a kid.
tim tompkins
She's a kid.
unidentified
She's not a kid.
She's not a kid.
She's a kid.
She must be a kid.
She's a kid.
rex jones
It's all right.
unidentified
I'm not a kid.
You have kids?
tim tompkins
Oh, what is she?
rex jones
Oh.
I'm sorry, guys.
tim tompkins
I'm joking.
I love kids.
unidentified
Why I own all those properties so I could help you.
rex jones
Oh, that's that's not the long one.
I there's a clip of her, like, where she like goes all, but see, she's campaigning for Zorhan Mamdani.
tim tompkins
Maybe it's this one, yeah.
rex jones
Maybe it is.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Why would you do it for the record?
unidentified
You're struggling with poverty.
rex jones
See, they misrepresent themselves, ladies and gentlemen.
They act like they're the common people.
She is like a slum lord.
She rents properties to people.
She owns like four or five houses, and she got the money to do so by defrauding the government.
tim tompkins
It's not just that.
Um, it's also the same thing.
Dude, I hate slandering my own people, but everybody has to get everyone.
Under here's how Gray Area works: we're not right or left.
We give everybody gets the same shit, right?
Just like she's grifting off of that.
You had other organizations, just like Black Lives Matter, who had like McMansions and just preaching about like the black people being impoverished.
And instead of pouring the money back into the community, they're sitting there freaking flying private.
Yeah, it's insane.
rex jones
Yeah, it's the same people that talk about like climate change and all that.
And they're on the private jet and they're eating the lobster.
unidentified
Oh, I'm so, I'm so sorry about those poor people.
Caveal, please.
rex jones
Yeah, they live in Martha's Vineyard and all this.
unidentified
I mean, look, you're not.
rex jones
Yeah, okay, that's enough yapping.
Um, I mean, look, at the at the end of the day, we got the curtain blocking it here.
So I might go back to full screen real quick at the at the end of the day.
It's all about grifting.
That's what all this is.
It's just a political, it's just thank you.
It's just a political grift.
And she's not serious about any of this stuff.
She's not serious about helping people.
She's serious about helping herself, just like all these political opportunists are.
And like, they're not going to be loyal to you guys.
Like, this Zoron guy, you know, I was fairly supportive.
Listen, let me let me cook.
Let me cook for a second.
tim tompkins
All right.
rex jones
I was fairly supportive at the beginning because I was like, hey, you know, Andrew Cuomo is a rapist and he killed grandma and he's like the worst person ever.
And hey, you know, a Democrat's going to win anyway.
tim tompkins
What about Adams?
Do you think Adams should have got back?
rex jones
I mean, Adams capitulated to the Republican Party and Trump publicly gloats about it.
He's like, yeah, this guy like works for us now, basically.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's got processed.
rex jones
The way I saw it was New York is a dump anyway.
New York City is a dump.
Who cares who runs it over there?
It might be nice for the Democrats to take an L, but you look at this guy.
First off, this guy claims to be a Muslim.
This guy like hangs out with like drag queens and stuff.
Yeah, that's why number one.
That's not very Muslim.
That's haram behavior.
And like, it's just a smile.
I'm your friend.
unidentified
I love you.
rex jones
I love you so much.
Oh, I can't wait to get in power.
Yes.
tim tompkins
He's going to make money.
At the end of the day, he's going to make money.
rex jones
Man, she is fat.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
Even though these people politically on paper don't make money from like a salary standpoint, you think about the amount of connections and things that they get from like pacts.
They get like a bunch of support from companies because these companies know, you know, if I can get this person on my payroll, I can decide to do whatever I want.
And I basically get my agendas pushed.
So like all these people are the same because they know they're going to make some money.
And I'm not saying everybody is like that, but there are some genuine people that might be trying to do the right thing.
But majority, they get in and then they see how much of a mess it is.
And they're like, all right, let's just fucking, I don't, I haven't got time for it.
rex jones
Let's play this little clip here.
The rally is called hands off Tish.
Here's the thing.
Not only is she a criminal, she committed the same crime that supposedly Trump committed.
And what they got.
Here's what they got Trump on.
Get this.
They say, look, Mar-a-Lago was overvalued in the bank loan.
So he got more money than he should have.
They claim the real value of that place is like $16 million, which it's like a billion-dollar person.
tim tompkins
There's no way that's $16 million.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
But that's what they say.
You see.
And then she does the same thing, but like on an actual criminal scale.
And then she's innocent and she gets a rally where it's hands off Tish.
tim tompkins
Who's doing the estimate?
The same guy that said your dad is making $150.
rex jones
It's all a big scam.
If you're not like they come after you, and if it's too much money or not enough money, they get you either way.
And they just have someone come do evaluation and screw you over.
But let's watch this.
What's being referenced here is she ran on, like, if you vote for me, I will indict Trump.
tim tompkins
Yeah, she did.
I, I, that, that was pretty much the collective consensus.
Like, we're going to go after everything and get this guy out.
rex jones
Right.
That's American politics now.
Ladies.
Isn't it disgusting?
Ladies and gentlemen, you don't hear the videos.
They don't hear the videos.
tim tompkins
Oh, no.
rex jones
That's a big, that's a big problem.
tim tompkins
That is a big problem.
rex jones
But we don't understand that.
You can hear us, right?
That's a big issue.
I wonder what the problem is in StreamYard.
I wonder what the problem is.
tim tompkins
That would be, that's so sad.
rex jones
That actually sucks.
Really appreciate you guys for bearing with us.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we'll fix that.
rex jones
That's horrible.
That is pretty bad, guys.
But you can still hear us.
Okay.
So, damn, there are a lot of good clips for this that we could have just rolled through, but I guess we can't do that anymore because technology doesn't.
tim tompkins
I might actually be able to hear it.
rex jones
Here, go ahead and fix it.
tim tompkins
Give me a second, guys.
unidentified
Audio.
tim tompkins
That's why.
Speaker should not be.
rex jones
Oh, it's connected to our mics.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
rex jones
All right, that makes sense.
tim tompkins
It needs to be whatever is the screen.
Oh, it is default.
TLZ creator.
rex jones
The LG is the one on the bottom.
tim tompkins
Is it?
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
tim tompkins
Let's see.
rex jones
We're going to do a live test with the audience.
tim tompkins
You guys let us know if this works.
rex jones
Yeah, let us know.
tim tompkins
Okay, can you guys hear that?
Let me know.
Someone, please give us feedback.
rex jones
All right, you're good.
Oh, yeah, they got it.
unidentified
Aha!
rex jones
That's the problem.
See how smart we are.
This is next.
tim tompkins
Engineered.
Engineered.
We do have a board, but I switched everything from OBS to we're using StreamYard now.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
Let's actually go back with this guy because this is what we're talking about.
unidentified
All right.
tim tompkins
Can you guys also hear us while the video is going on?
rex jones
You can hear us now, correct?
You can hear us and Mr. Mamdani.
tim tompkins
Wait, in on him.
Come on, somebody tell us that they can hear us.
All right, yes.
Awesome.
rex jones
We're good.
unidentified
Thanks, T. Is that a...
She has held them all to account to announce.
zohran mamdani
And we will now have her back.
Have her back.
Because there is nothing.
There is nothing illegal.
Illegal or radical.
tim tompkins
I want to believe.
zohran mamdani
To believe that no one is above the law.
rex jones
All right.
So he's making it like she is getting indicted off of what she said about Trump.
No, she's getting indicted on mortgage fraud.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
It's got nothing to do with what she ran on, her pronouncements against Trump.
Hey, I'm sure the Justice Department, not being Biden anymore, who's friendly and might overlook things.
I'm sure that is something to do there, but they didn't indict her for being a big meanie.
tim tompkins
No, but it is the macro of you, you fuck me, I fuck you harder.
rex jones
Right, right.
I mean, hey, like fuck around.
tim tompkins
Trump has a vindictive behavior and he's like, I don't forget.
rex jones
Yeah, this is like at like summer camp.
If you've ever been to summer camp where you like sing the camp songs, they're like little like stupid.
tim tompkins
Yes, that's exactly.
She was either that or I'm thinking about like in Baptist church.
They're like, they, the preacher says something, they expect you to say the same thing back.
I'm like, geez.
rex jones
Oh, we're here down at the river today.
unidentified
We're down at the river.
rex jones
Exactly.
Literally exactly what that is.
unidentified
So we thank you, Tish.
zohran mamdani
We have your back.
We have your back.
And we say to Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
That if you want to get to the Attorney General, to the Attorney General, you are going to.
Your honor has to get through.
I have to get for every single one of us.
unidentified
They got to say home check.
Hallelujah.
Listen.
Hallelujah.
rex jones
Here's the thing.
People, they want to feel like they're in like a civil rights movie.
Seriously, though, that's what it is.
They want to feel like they're part of like, I don't know, like the 1960s or something.
tim tompkins
No, it's like everyone imagines they have like a little camera following them and they're like, okay, what can I do to get my moment of fame in this moment?
rex jones
Right.
I mean, look, Zorhan Mamdani, man, you're just an establishment lib at the end of the day.
tim tompkins
The problem I have with all of this is like, okay, we're roasting the Democrats right now, but like the Republicans do the same thing just in their own capacity.
rex jones
And this is all Israel.
tim tompkins
Yeah, yeah.
It's just like, it's just the same song, different tune situation.
And it's like, it's so sad because you see how the divide happens and how everything becomes so politicized as you like form the fractions.
You got like the young Republicans brainwashing and the Democrats have their own organizations doing the same thing, by the way.
But like I go on to like Instagram, right?
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
And like Instagram is like more Democratic and X is more Republican.
So, like, if you go on X, you're just going to get a bunch of people that like Trump does no wrong.
And then, if you go on Instagram or TikTok, especially, you get like the narrative from the shade room.
I think I've met.
Have you ever seen the shade room?
unidentified
No.
tim tompkins
Shade Room is like, imagine it's like the black Instagram channel.
And essentially, like, they show like a video of like Letitia and they're like, we must protect this woman.
And you just see like everybody in the chats don't know what they're talking about.
The fact that she's literally doing illegal shit.
Yeah, exactly.
It doesn't matter what she did.
The white man already did this.
So she gets to do the same thing and there's no harm.
No, everybody, everybody should be.
rex jones
There has to be a fair, equal standard for everyone.
tim tompkins
Yes.
Everybody does.
You do the crime, you do the time.
rex jones
And this is the thing.
We talk about the gray area.
And like we're doing a little bit of culture war slop today.
We talk about the metal level argument, the macro level argument.
This is why the country is going to fall apart in a couple of years is because you can't have left gets in power.
They persecute the right, right gets in power.
They persecute the left.
tim tompkins
They set precedents.
Biden and his Biden administration literally set precedents.
This stuff would have not happened to the same extent before 2020.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
Trump is literally going back and just saying, okay, we're going to do this.
And then, you know, what's happening now is the Democrats are trying to push as much, you know, chaos and showing like, oh, the Republicans are doing this and this is how they raise their people.
So that way when midterms come around, they can get their congressional seats back and then also set themselves up for like Newsome coming in like fucking 2028.
And basically the Republicans have another reset again.
rex jones
So they're really excited about that.
They're very excited about that.
I mean, here, I'll play it.
We'll play it to the end.
I'm glad this works now.
I'm glad the audio on this works.
zohran mamdani
You have organized labor.
unidentified
Organize labor.
zohran mamdani
Community organizations.
City elected officials.
City elected officials.
State elected officials.
And the working families party.
And the working families party.
And not a single one of us.
unidentified
And not a single one of us will bow to your threats.
Hands off tits.
zohran mamdani
Hands off Tish.
tim tompkins
Hands off Tish.
unidentified
Hands off, Tish.
rex jones
Okay.
That's enough.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
I mean, this is what our founding fathers were afraid of, guys.
At the end of the day, you guys should go watch the clips that we have on it.
But like the intentions for the founding fathers, the reason why some of these people didn't want a centralized system was because they were afraid of stuff like this.
rex jones
Right.
And here's Trump.
tim tompkins
Corrupt Letitia.
unidentified
Corrupt Letitia James is costing the New York state hundreds of billions of dollars in lost business.
No company or individual wants to be there, knowing that she's the attorney general.
rex jones
She's a complete and total disaster who tried running against Katie Hochel for governor, only got 1% of the votes in polls and quit.
She then went back to her witch hunt against President Donald J. Trump and others.
I like how it's in the quotation.
Until this gum is removed from the Attorney General's office, no company will move to New York and few companies will be using New York Stock Exchange or NASDAQ for going public.
So he's just roasting her.
Yeah, I mean, look, she, all right.
Letitia James just laid down the gauntlet.
She declared she'll use her office to fight against Donald Trump's administration.
tim tompkins
Oh, that was in 2024.
And she's, yep, I do remember because this is before he got into office.
unidentified
She's like, lastly, I congratulate the president-elect Donald Trump.
And if possible, we will work with his administration.
tim tompkins
If possible.
unidentified
But we will not compromise our values or our integrity or our principles.
We did not expect this result, but we are prepared to respond to this result.
And my office has been preparing for several months because we've been here before.
We faced this challenge before.
And we use the rule of law to fight back.
And we are prepared.
All right, whatever.
tim tompkins
Do you think it's possible both right and left?
Doesn't matter who you are.
Like, let's say you just go into the political system.
Do you think it's possible to go in there with like a squeaky, clean history and then not have anyone dig anything up like and be able to use that as extortion?
rex jones
No, because they'll just make something up too.
tim tompkins
And that's true.
rex jones
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
You know, like there, there are a ton of great clips on her, especially like predating all this stuff.
Like we'll, we'll cover her more.
Well, that's she's an interesting topic, but let's, where do you want to go from here?
tim tompkins
I want to talk about crypto.
rex jones
All right, let's talk about that.
You have something up to that?
tim tompkins
Yeah, the crypto scam.
So let's, yeah, I've got the video in between that YouTube.
rex jones
This one?
tim tompkins
Yeah.
Go back to the beginning for this guy.
So this video, this is CoffeeZilla, but essentially this happened a few days ago, maybe four days now.
And maybe you guys have seen some of the news on this, but essentially, we've got some clear inside trading going on here.
And this guy goes in some random wallet that we don't know whose name.
There's people that are coming out trying to associate it with certain people.
But essentially, this person made a massive short position like minutes before Trump.
Short position is when you bet against the market, essentially.
It's like everyone normally knows what the buy button is and you buy it and you hold it and you bet it's going to go up.
If you want a short, you're going the other way and you're basically saying it's going to go down.
So this person knew that Bitcoin was going in Ethereum and a couple other cryptocurrencies were going to crash.
And essentially they profited and made a shit ton of money.
rex jones
Let's watch the video.
stephen coffeezilla findeisen
Tider trading analysis.
Someone made $190 million while the crypto markets were crashing yesterday in light of tariffs that seem to have been preempted by a very specific trader.
We're going to get into it.
I want to be clear that I'm not accusing anyone of a crime here.
Insider trading specifically relates to securities.
We've been pretty clear that crypto, especially Bitcoin and Ethereum are not securities.
So I don't even know what this is.
I think this is all legal, kind of.
I don't think it should be, as you'll see.
But the question is, what did this guy know?
Okay.
How did somebody make $190 million while everyone else was losing their shirts yesterday?
If you don't know, there was one of the biggest crashes we've ever seen in crypto.
And someone came in 24 hours before and started placing shorts against the market.
Short is just when you bet that the underlying asset is going to go down in price and you will make money on that.
Now, this all started October 9th at 1639 GMT time.
They start accumulating this Bitcoin short.
They initially put, and this is not chump change, guys.
This isn't under your couch, you know, pennies.
This is $80 million that initially gets deposited and they start placing shorts against Bitcoin.
unidentified
Okay.
stephen coffeezilla findeisen
That's fine.
Now, the amount is unusual, but that itself is not the unusual part.
Then we have Ethereum starts to get shorted at 349 GMT.
Interesting.
$30 million gets deposited into this account.
Immediately start placing major bets that the market is going to go down.
Why is this significant?
Well, because at 1457, this is only a few hours later, like 12 hours later, Trump posts on Truth Social that they are calculating a massive increase on Chinese tariffs.
This is due to a rare earth mineral dispute.
But the point is, nobody knew this is coming except, of course, maybe this guy, because he's already got these multi-million dollar shorts.
Now, where I think this goes from suspicious to downright diabolical is the fact that at this point, the market dips a little bit because you have these threats of tariffs.
But the person does not start closing out their shorts yet, which I think is very interesting.
If you place this huge short bet and then the president tweets something like this, you would think you would close out your order.
But not only do they not do that, not only do they not close out their short, they continue to place short bets against Bitcoin.
In fact, this person continues to short Bitcoin all the way up till 2049, 23 GMT.
Why is that significant?
Ladies and gentlemen, it's because 2049 is the last short he places, okay?
2050 GMT.
A minute later, one minute later, Trump announces they're considering an 100% tariff on China, which of course tanks the market.
And this person makes literally $190 million in 24 hours, meaning the guy was placing shorts up to one minute before Trump announces this big, huge 100% tariffs.
And then, by the way, immediately as if he knew something, we start seeing the shorts close only 30 minutes later.
So both the ETH and Bitcoin short closed 30 minutes later.
By the way, these accounts were funded by the same people.
This is the same person making these trades.
So to recap, this person not only times the same day that a big announcement was made, he makes these $110 million short against crypto.
He then also conveniently waits past the initial like tweet about tariffs until the most significant announcement, which is the 100% tariffs.
And he's shorting it up till one minute before that guys.
This is some of the most blatant crime is legal moments we've seen, $190 million.
unidentified
And the question is, is anything going to be done?
stephen coffeezilla findeisen
No, actually, I can already answer that for you.
Probably not.
But I think what we are seeing here is just the rise of insider trading across the board.
I think it's disgusting.
I think it ruins capital markets and it's bad.
But I don't really know what to do about it because it just seems like everywhere we're seeing the insider trading.
I don't know if some of you remember there was a time where, you know, Trump was going to post on his Truth Social.
rex jones
So, I mean, it's kind of perfect, right?
You do this and then whatever, presuming this person is America.
You don't have to worry about anything during the entire Trump term because everyone's clearly in on this hustle.
And then, hey, someone else gets elected into office.
You have all this crypto.
You just move somewhere else.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
rex jones
Can't be prosecuted for that.
tim tompkins
Can't be prosecuted.
And the thing is, it's kind of hard to track the names of wallets.
And that's the whole purpose of like this decentralized system.
rex jones
Crypto.
Yeah.
tim tompkins
The thing people don't understand.
The reason why they are able to know all this information, the way crypto works, it's a little bit different than like other money markets.
Like if you're banking with an official bank, yeah, your account isn't out there.
Your bank account isn't out there for everybody to see.
But in crypto, you have a crypto wallet and the crypto wallet has an ID and that ID is basically in the system and anyone can basically take that ID and search the transactions.
And the whole purpose of that is to keep a certain level of transparency.
And the whole thing is like, the whole thing is systemized in a way where you can essentially look at who's wallet.
rex jones
This is clearly all a complete fraud.
tim tompkins
It is.
I mean, up to the minute, you have to be the fucking luckiest man alive, or you have to be the smartest man alive to do something like this.
Or you have to know somebody.
Right.
That's the only way that you can do this.
And, you know, this isn't the only amount of money that.
I don't know if it's, it has to be Trump related, but you're never going to find out exactly who is the one that's placing these bets.
It's like an athlete going and having their distant relative go and place a bet on themselves, you know, on a basketball game.
And you can't really track it if it's somebody random, you know?
rex jones
Right.
The crazy thing about like basketball betting is you can do like over under like a certain amount of points.
Same thing with like NFL, like really anything.
You can do prop bets on like UFC too.
And like, there'd never be a way to know.
tim tompkins
Some people have gotten hit on that, but like there's a lot more.
You're only seeing the ones that are clearly caught.
rex jones
I watched this great little documentary series.
It was on Netflix.
I'm forgetting what it was called, but it was like covering a college basketball, like hustling.
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
That was, I'm forgetting what that was.
tim tompkins
And the refs.
You were talking about the refs that were doing stuff.
rex jones
Something like that.
That was a great, great, great piece.
Because those guys, like, they ruined their careers through that hustle.
tim tompkins
But ultimately, it is all a money crap.
You know, here's the thing.
No matter what presidency has come into power, they've all done something to this level of grifting.
And if you just look at the Biden administration, his son was like making deals with like all these foreign countries and making like millions and billions of dollars and be like, daddy's going to go do something for you if you push this deal.
rex jones
Good guy.
tim tompkins
Yeah.
It's just sick.
It's just sick.
rex jones
It is.
And you look at a country like Ukraine, which is where Hunter Biden was doing all these deals.
And Trump comes in and he asks Zelensky, you know, like, hey, you know, give us some info on what's been happening here.
And like, that's something they impeach Trump over.
tim tompkins
Yes.
rex jones
That was one of the things.
tim tompkins
That is something that they impeach him over.
rex jones
But that's a great topic.
It's always good to stay on top of what's happening with the crypto and with the crypto market.
You know, I just, I wanted to visit with the audience.
I just wanted to go to antiwar.com.
This is like the number one resource for the things actually happening in the world.
Dave DeCamp is the guy that runs this site.
This is where I find the, this is where I find the current war news besides like Judge Napolitano's channel.
And I just want to shout him out and tell people, like, this is the place to go if you want high quality information.
tim tompkins
It's like a conglomerate of information for right.
rex jones
It's updated all the time.
It's crazy.
So President Trump on Tuesday said that Hamas will disarm.
And if the group doesn't do it voluntarily, we will force them, perhaps violently suggesting a potential U.S. role.
If they don't disarm, we will disarm them.
It will happen quickly and perhaps violently, the president told reporters, but they will disarm.
When asked how we would disarm Hamas, the president said, I don't have to explain that to you.
They know I'm not playing games.
So we've got the clip.
donald j trump
And because they said they were going to disarm.
And if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.
rex jones
How do you do that?
donald j trump
I don't have to explain that to you.
But if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.
They know I'm not playing games.
Okay.
Now, we did something monumental.
We got the hostages back.
That was the first thing we had to do above all else, get the hostages back.
Now, they misrepresented because we were told they had 26, 24 of dead hostages, if we can use those terms.
And it seems as though they don't have that because we're talking about a much lesser number.
But that's a very tough subject.
I want them back.
That's what they said.
I want them back.
Also, they said they were going to disarm.
And initially speaking, they needed, you know, they did take out a couple of gangs that were very bad.
Very, very bad gangs that they did take them out.
unidentified
And they killed a number of gang members.
donald j trump
And that didn't bother me much, to be honest with you.
That's okay.
We had a couple of very bad gangs.
You know, it's no different than other countries.
rex jones
This is a topic for another show.
The gangs he's referring to are like Israeli funded, like people operating in the Gaza Strip, like with like weapons.
tim tompkins
Like not acting within the jurisdiction of the military.
rex jones
Well, they weren't Hamas, right?
But there are other like militant groups operating in.
tim tompkins
Oh, it's like the Crips, basically.
rex jones
Well, yeah, just like little terror cells inside of Gaza, you know, and like their job is to fight Hamas as well.
tim tompkins
Oh, their job is, oh, they're paying these people to basically.
rex jones
Yeah, so that's what he's referring to.
And apparently Hamas killed them.
And he's like, that's fine.
They can kill them.
It's all good.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's insane.
And they probably like promised them a bunch of stuff.
Like, hey, we're going to do this just to eliminate the amount of people who are dying from the Israeli.
You think he's going to really, he's not going to send U.S. troops.
That's not.
rex jones
He says you're going to send 200 to start.
tim tompkins
I don't.
I see that.
Why wouldn't they just double down on the Israelis and just give them weapons?
That's what we've been doing the whole time.
I don't think people are going to endorse U.S. troops on the ground.
But I mean, at the end of the day, they don't give a fuck.
None of them care.
I mean, they basically can do as they decide.
rex jones
Well, it's just a pretext for like a false flag or like a green flag operation where U.S. troops get killed and then they move in.
tim tompkins
Move in, yeah.
rex jones
Right.
But Smotrich vows there will be Jewish settlements in Gaza.
Smotrich is the finance minister.
We've played clips of before.
Yeah, we've watched him talk.
So he's not a good dude.
tim tompkins
If you're talking about elitists, that is as good as it gets, guys.
rex jones
Israeli finance minister Bezazel Smotrich vowed on Tuesday there'll be Jewish settlements in Gaza despite the ceasefire deal that Israel signed last week.
The Israeli minister who also holds a position in the defense ministry that gives him power to expand Jewish settlements in the West Bank claims settlements in Gaza were necessary for Israel's security.
So we have patience, but we have determination and faith.
And with God's help, we will continue to see these series of victories and the big miracles.
Smotrich said at the event, Smotrich has been one of the leading proponents of cleansing Gaza of his Palestinian population, establishing Jewish settlements in the territory, an idea that has significant support within the Israeli government.
This is the guy that said, yes, the demolition phase is done.
That's the most expensive part of the reconstruction.
We've played the clip before.
So like this, this Gaza situation is very tenuous.
It's a very, very tenuous thing.
And they released the prisoners and then they released the hostages.
tim tompkins
Well, here's my thing about the hostages.
I've been screaming this to the mountaintops since well before this even happened.
Like everyone's thinking, like they list the number of hostages and they think that all those people are alive.
You got to understand, Israel went in and basically destroyed the entire ecosystem of like food, water, everything.
This isn't like they're being kept in like a prison like here in America where they're getting like three meals a day and they're being like treated very well.
I mean, you're talking about terrorists that essentially are keeping them like underground.
And some of these people could probably easily die from some type of like disease, something that is just like the mistreatment.
They hit the person wrong from torture.
The guy could die.
rex jones
The Hannibal directive as well, where the Israelis will, you know, kind of carpet bomb areas where the Hamas might be.
tim tompkins
That too.
rex jones
Yeah.
Here's the thing.
The Israelis, they killed a lot of their own people on October 7th.
They killed a lot of them because they were trying to get the Hamas people, but the collateral damage, you know, it is what it is.
And there's reports specifically about a beach incident where dozens of Israelis were killed by the IDF.
And I'll be able to find this.
This is true.
I've seen the reports of this.
But like they just go in there and basically spray and pray.
tim tompkins
Yeah, because it got to a point where at the beginning, they were trying to be like, okay, hostages are priority.
And we're just going to go in there and try to surgically remove and try to get our people back.
But then I think at a certain point, the government in Netanyahu realized, oh shit, this is a lot harder than we thought.
And we're not just going to be able to like surgically remove.
So like when you flood a tunnel, you don't know who's in there.
rex jones
Right.
tim tompkins
You're talking about they're taking the water from the ocean and basically flooding these tunnels out or blowing them up.
Like there's a, they knew that there's going to be some casualties on the hostage side because they're room and board right next to these people.
rex jones
Right.
That's exactly correct, Tim.
I mean, you're talking about an area that's like a couple of times bigger than Austin.
And then you're talking about Israel, which is like the size of New Jersey.
These are not big places anyway.
No, it's like a concentrated area.
We have all this firepower and weaponry and espionage and spying going on.
unidentified
Yep.
rex jones
Like ultimately, why are we involved in this?
Like, why are our weapons being used to commit this mass murder?
Why is it the biggest issue?
Why is it, you know, like our president, instead of focusing on America and American problems, American issues and helping Americans, he's over in Ukraine giving Zelensky hundreds of billions.
He's over in Gaza giving them, or in Israel, giving them all our weapons.
And even in our own hemisphere, this is another interesting article that I have pulled up.
We keep striking these boats off the coast of Venezuela.
tim tompkins
The cartel.
rex jones
Yeah, this is another one.
We just did it again.
It's so crazy.
This is a new video, guys.
Boom, dude.
And there's like, yeah, now we just blow up boats.
And like.
tim tompkins
But that doesn't solve the problem.
rex jones
No, and it radicalizes the entire South American population.
tim tompkins
Poking a hornet's nest at that point.
rex jones
Crazy.
The president also claimed that the strike killed six meral narco-terrorists, bringing the total number of people extrajudiciously executed by the U.S. military since the bombing campaign started from September 2nd to 27.
The Trump administration has not presented evidence to back up the allegations.
And then Trump authorizes it.
It's the same thing.
tim tompkins
Okay, so here's the thing with these types of things.
You're talking about 27 people.
That's like a drop in the ocean in terms of the systemic problem that they have.
They're not just smuggling drugs via water.
Like they're not just going over the Gulf.
You've got land operations.
Like this stuff gets funneled through the rest of Central America.
And there's no way that this stops the problem.
What it is, is it's just an optic.
It's basically to just say, hey, I promise certain things, America first.
We're going to do these things to make everything look like we're solving the problem because we don't want these people dying from fentanyl and having cocaine overdoses and all this other stuff.
But this isn't solving.
You have to go from the country and it has to come out of the government system that's operating there to crush these organizations.
rex jones
Right.
And I mean, look, ultimately, we do have weapon superiority.
We have nukes in these other like Western hemisphere countries.
They don't have nukes.
We talk about something like Russia.
We talk about the Ukraine situation.
And Trump is talking about, ooh, I'll pull this up on Twitter as well.
We're going to Have tomahawk missiles.
We're going to have them look at a young Republican right here.
Brian, Brylan Hollyhan.
tim tompkins
Face of the he's a facelord.
rex jones
That's that's what we call the facelord.
unidentified
Facelord.
rex jones
Yeah, he's a facelord.
tim tompkins
Tomahawks.
rex jones
So, like, this is this is the new, this is the new thing.
This is the new thing that's going on.
pete hegseth
Pearl is the initiative where, and one part of that, of course, is pearl.
rex jones
Gay man, actually, gay, uh, Mark Rude.
pete hegseth
One part of that, of course, is Pearl.
Is the initiative where European countries buy U.S. weapons transferred to NATO for the fight in Ukraine to bring peace to that conflict?
And if there's anything we've learned under President Trump, it is the active application of peace through strength.
You get peace when you are strong, not when you use strong words or wag your finger.
You get it when you have strong and real capabilities that adversaries respect.
And I believe that's what NATO is doing.
tim tompkins
AKA.
rex jones
Talk about this for a second.
I got something for this.
tim tompkins
AKA carpet bomb.
That's how you show strength.
rex jones
Yeah, we kill them all, and that's how we initiate.
tim tompkins
Just bomb the wedding, and that's how you end up getting them under your control.
I don't know.
The thing is about what he's talking about.
I see what he's like, you try to discourage certain things by just saying, I've got a big stick.
You should be afraid of me.
But you also make a lot of people angry and you don't solve a lot of issues.
Sometimes you make things worse.
Where are we going?
rex jones
I was thinking of a Star Wars clip, but I can't find the long version of it.
So it's not important.
unidentified
I'm going to cut back.
tim tompkins
Yeah, ultimately with this guy.
Is this the one that you were talking about with Trump?
What he said?
Or is this just somebody else saying something?
unidentified
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rex jones
Don't shop with them.
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unidentified
After you have killed all the Jedi in the temple, go to the most of our system.
Wipe out Viceroy Gunray and the other separatist leaders.
Once more, Sith will rule the galaxy.
And we shall be.
rex jones
But see, it's good because he says peace.
He says the P word, and that means he's for peace.
Like that, that's literally the same argument here.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to send the Ukrainians' tomahawk missiles so they can strike inside of Russia, a nuclear armed country.
But you see, it's for peace.
And you see, Russia, they have fuel lines.
They're suffering.
Their GDP is at like almost 5% now.
Yeah.
Their debt to GDP ratio is 20%.
Ours is 127.
It was 125 a month ago.
It's gone up another 2%.
It is so insane.
unidentified
We shall have peace.
rex jones
Yes, good.
tim tompkins
Here's the thing.
You escalate it this far.
You don't even know.
Russia's been holding back, guys, the entire time.
Do you know that like Kiev could have been carpet bomb this entire time?
And they could have like, I know that at certain points that did attack like the infrastructure.
Isn't it illegal to attack like essentials?
rex jones
Yeah, it's so it's illegal to attack civilian infrastructure, but if they have like military stations somewhere, then it becomes a viable target.
Ultimately, Kiev is like a party city for like Western politicians, specifically American ones.
There's reports of Lindsey Graham spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on weekends in Kiev.
You know, well, the people are still partying.
unidentified
Right.
rex jones
And there's a there's a rail line that comes in from Western Europe to Ukraine and it leads to Kiev.
And that's what all these people take to get there.
In a war, that would be the first thing that is gone.
It would blow that up immediately.
But because it's a special military operation and not a full war, they haven't done that.
And the Russians have given them infinite chances.
The Belarusian president Lukashenko, there will be nuclear war if Trump transfers Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine.
tim tompkins
I don't believe that.
rex jones
I don't believe that.
Lavrov, this is the foreign minister.
This is foreign minister of Russia.
He's like their secretary of state.
tim tompkins
After a last good seemed promising, but Trump threatened to supply Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine.
What is going on?
Well, here's the thing.
rex jones
I like Lavrov.
tim tompkins
Trump is.
He's nervous now because he promised that this war would be over as soon as he got in.
And now it's stretched on to basically the end of the year.
We're in October now.
And I guarantee you this doesn't end in 2025.
We're playing this out into 2026, maybe even 2027.
Because you're not going to have an agreement.
I mean, at the end of the day, Ukraine doesn't want to give up certain things.
And Russia knows that they are in a position of leverage.
So they're not going to just give up whatever, you know, they know they just have to play a war of attrition at this stance.
rex jones
Right.
A tomahawk missile has a range of approximately 1,500 miles, 2,400 kilometers.
That's pretty long, guys.
And a top speed of around 550 miles per hour.
That's pretty slow.
So they're going to be able to shoot these things down.
That's 550.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's nothing.
rex jones
That's real slow.
And I mean, like, this is an old weapon system.
I believe this was invented like in the 90s.
So here's the thing.
If they do end up sending them and they do end up being fired, they're going to go down.
The Russians have like the best bar none, like missile defense technology around.
All these other countries like Iran during the 12-day war right before it, they were like, we don't need your Russian missile defense systems.
We don't need S-400s or S-500s.
We're fine.
We have our own stuff.
Now they're armed to the brim with us.
unidentified
Them.
tim tompkins
Pakistan also went up.
I think even India has some of those stuff.
rex jones
They make really good missile defense technology and really good missiles in general.
And they have the hypersonic stuff that we apparently don't have.
This is, here's the thing.
It's just like the leopard tank.
It's just like all these other things that the Ukrainians postured about.
They're like, this is a wonder weapon.
This will change the war.
tim tompkins
They said that so many times.
rex jones
How many times did you hear that?
tim tompkins
I remember back in like 2023.
Yes, this was in 2023 that we started giving them tanks.
This was under the Biden administration.
And they were like, okay, now that we have these tanks, it's going to change the tide of the war.
We're going to do a bunch of things.
But the thing is, is like, you're acting like the Russians don't have weapons to be able to combat these.
And you're talking about not an infantry of like a thousand tanks.
You're talking about like a handful, like maybe 15, 20.
I don't remember what the amount was, but it wasn't significant to change the tide of the war.
rex jones
And that's the thing.
It's like we don't have the technology to give them because we need the stuff for ourselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
rex jones
Produce a lot of it at the end of the day.
tim tompkins
That's expensive.
It's expensive.
There's no way we could give.
And we've already dwindled our stockpiles enough from the last administration going through now.
I mean, we're dipping into our reserves to the point where like, okay, what happens if we get attacked?
Are we going to be able to defend ourselves?
rex jones
But here's a, you got to follow Douglas McGregor on Twitter.
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If a Tomahawk missile lands in the outskirts of Moscow or Rayazon or Kazan or any of these places, he's going to be at war with Russia.
And that war could rapidly escalate to the nuclear level.
And once you hit the nuclear level, you have almost no control.
We know that from experience in multiple war games and everyone loses.
tim tompkins
Okay, I see his perspective.
The problem I have, I'm so tired of hearing about nuclear war.
I'm sorry.
Like I think everyone understands the mutual destruction and people have their own families.
Even Putin has people that he cares about.
No one's gonna launch a nuclear weapon and be the first one to basically condemn the entire world, right?
rex jones
But I don't know.
Like, you got a state like Ukraine where they've had over a hundred thousand desertions this year.
tim tompkins
Yeah, that's that's fine, but nuclear dirty bomb, but you're talking about like the ultimate, like, just you know, fuck shit up situation where they just like there's no winning at that point.
If you're gonna go and win, you're gonna go and use like other sorts of systems that you have in place that are less nuclear.
The thing is, let's say, let's say Russia uses nuclear weapons and they let, let's say they go and bomb Ukraine, right?
Nuclear fallout.
Do people understand how far radioaction activity goes from a location of where you're bombing this stuff at?
There's nowhere in Europe, like when Chernobyl blew up, that radiation went across everywhere.
It wasn't just in that region, it was all across Europe.
So they're all in the same thing where it affects everybody and they're not going to kill their own people.
rex jones
Right.
Did you see this?
They're improvising.
They're making their own cruise missiles.
It's domestically built.
This is Ukraine.
tim tompkins
That shit's not going to work.
rex jones
Zelensky made it clear.
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As of today, we're using our domestically produced long-range weapons.
We don't even mention coordination with the U.S. anymore.
All right.
rex jones
There are times I wish I could say the N-word for emphasis.
I can't, but like.
tim tompkins
I could say it for you.
rex jones
My bro, my like, you understand.
Everything you do is at the behest of us at the end at the end of the day.
tim tompkins
It's our technology.
rex jones
Satellites, the logistics, the telemetry.
The only reason why they're quote unquote in the fight is because there are Western people running the conflict for them.
And Zelensky has the balls to come over and say, oh, you have big ocean, but you feel pain later.
That's what he said to Trump in the meeting.
I mean, why do we just the Russians have the nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet?
They want to work with us in the Arctic.
They want to share technology with us.
They have rare earth minerals.
We're friends with the Ukrainians.
Like from just a resource calculation, from an ally calculation, these are the worst people to have as friends.
And look at this thing.
It's all well.
tim tompkins
So the reason why you can't completely go to the Russia side is because we still have to cooperate with the EU and a lot of these other people.
rex jones
Dude, they don't have anything either.
Like, I just screw them.
Like, seriously, they abuse their own citizens.
It's a police state over there.
Like, like, these, but, but hey, they will do anything to the U.S.
They were for the U.S.
They will buy our debt ultimately.
And that's that's what it's all about: is having people sign on to our financial system.
And they're the only people drinking the Kool-Aid anymore.
So I guess it makes sense.
unidentified
We saw the latest Ukrainian developments, weapons, and equipment created here in Ukraine to defend our state.
I think everyone who engaged in the effort, we are building up our own production.
This is essential.
rex jones
I can't do the voice right now.
It hurts.
tim tompkins
It's like, it's propaganda, guys.
rex jones
It's all propaganda.
And like, oh, like, look at all our drones.
And like, that's the only reason why they're still in the fight, quote unquote, is because they have the good domestic drone capability.
And see, like, like it's, it's all about death.
It's all like, we're building better ways to kill people.
tim tompkins
Yeah, right.
But I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, what choice do they have?
Because Russia's not going to stop, right?
rex jones
Right.
But, but, but here's the thing: what choice do they have?
They're, they've lost a million of their own people.
Yeah.
That's the choice they have.
They like, do you want a future?
tim tompkins
So let's say you're Zelensky.
What do you do in this situation?
rex jones
Uh, well, I mean, if I, if I'm Zelensky and I do the right thing, which is to just like surrender and just say, hey, I want to go back to the Istanbul agreement.
Uh, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Karsan can vote on whatever they're going to do and they're going to vote to join Russia.
We relinquish our claim on that land.
The neo-Nazis and his own government, they kill him.
tim tompkins
So okay, I could see letting the people vote because then you really can determine.
But the thing is, is your own, just playing devil's advocate, your own government is going to spearhead you because you just gave up valuable asset.
And that's what it's all about.
rex jones
It's because the rare earth minerals.
Well, no, no.
tim tompkins
Well, they'll still have.
rex jones
Odessa is not included in the original Istanbul deal.
So that's not a part of it.
These independent regions, these like Russian ethnic regions, they have all the rare earth minerals.
So that's what it's about.
It's about money.
You remember that Trump mineral deal?
Yep.
Oh, we're going to do it.
Then it doesn't go through.
That's because all the rare earths are in the dominant.
tim tompkins
And that's why Russians, Russia specifically went after those regions and ignored the rest.
rex jones
Right.
I mean, like, it's like Terminator stuff.
Like, it's, it's all, ooh, ooh, the missiles.
Yes, the missiles.
And people, they cheer for this stuff because it's like, it's like a Star Wars conflict to them, right?
It's like the rebel alliance fighting the evil empire.
tim tompkins
But I'll say this blue till I die.
I don't think there will ever be a case scenario where anybody's ever going to use a nuclear weapon.
We saw what happened with Japan.
Everybody was horrified.
We got to see the it's just a dick swinging contest just to see who's got the bigger the bigger gun and the bigger blow up.
But everybody understands mutual destruction.
It's just I've heard Putin say that, oh, we've got nuclear weapons and we've got these things and like we're going to use them if you attack.
Remember when Biden made that risky call to like shoot missiles into or give Ukrainians the long-range missiles and they used them to hit like certain assets in Russia.
And what did Russia say at that point?
They said, if you give them these weapons, we will basically go to war with you.
And what happened?
Everything is still the same.
And I'm positive this happened.
I'm pretty sure this happened where they did use these long-range missiles.
unidentified
Leopard tank.
rex jones
See if we can find some old tweets with the same language about things being game changing.
I think we can.
tim tompkins
Chuck, you are correct.
Russia has no reason to concede, to be honest.
rex jones
What are you talking about?
tim tompkins
I was looking at the comments.
What is this?
rex jones
These were the...
These were the tanks that the Germans sent them.
This was supposed to be like, oh, the big deal.
It's just footage.
tim tompkins
You never know what to trust, though, when it comes to all these videos.
rex jones
No, you don't.
You don't.
tim tompkins
Because everyone has their own propaganda board or region that basically is supposed to be spewing all this stuff.
rex jones
Well, I mean, people follow this shit and they get off on it because it's like, it's like they watch people die.
unidentified
Super cool.
rex jones
Yeah.
Like, man.
unidentified
I mean, boom.
tim tompkins
That was from early.
rex jones
Yeah, it's all early war stuff.
But, you know, we've been live for a while.
Let's take a few questions from the audience and let's go ahead and wrap up the show for today.
tim tompkins
I agree.
rex jones
Alex Jones wants his followers to drink methylene blue Kool-Aid.
I mean, yes, I guess that is true, but we all drink the Kool-Aid as well.
So it's not like it's a bad thing.
Remember the InfoWar.
Remember the InfoWar, Methylene Blue Nationalists.
See the duality of man?
See that?
tim tompkins
Yep.
rex jones
Russia has no reason to concede.
Yeah, they don't.
They don't have any reason to concede.
They're recruiting more people.
Ukraine is having to conscript people.
Ukrainians have suffered over 100,000 desertions this year alone.
700 people a day, which is really insane.
With Star Wars references, I love it.
Hellfire missiles for peace.
That's right.
They're for peace.
It's peace and love, man.
What don't you understand?
Israel wants the war with Iran so bad.
I can't see this going away.
Yeah, we're gonna hit that before the year's over.
tim tompkins
That's he thinks that my prediction is uh, I think we're a couple a year or two out from that.
rex jones
No, I think they're gonna do it now.
tim tompkins
What do you think they're gonna go after with Iran?
rex jones
Just the some sort of terror attack that the Iranians do, quote unquote, weapons of mass destruction play.
Well, like, yeah, they'll say, like, either like we found the enriched uranium and they're building a bomb and we have to kill them now, which was Netanyahu's whole line, like right before the 12-day war story.
tim tompkins
We're gonna use the bunker busters, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
rex jones
Well, we use like 30% of our inventory.
Nice, yeah, isn't that cool?
Yeah, Dave DeCamp is awesome.
Yeah, anti-war.com is awesome, guys.
Yeah, Trump said 25% for the big guy.
Timmy called out Baron.
Apparently, that's not true, though.
tim tompkins
No, I looked into that, Honey Badger.
rex jones
You must issue a retraction.
tim tompkins
It is a retraction because you know, you can't trust everything on the internet.
There's nothing to corroborate Baron actually gaining 80 million.
But here's the thing that I don't doubt because the rest of his kids are making money and making deals.
I'll actually do a segment on this too, just like diving into how much money they've made.
But Baron's just part of that.
At the end of the day, he's got his dad's name.
He's making money somehow.
So, well, nepotism.
rex jones
Thank you, everyone, for being here with us tonight.
Yeah, good show.
tim tompkins
We're a little gassed.
I've been up since four o'clock this morning, guys.
rex jones
We didn't really prepare that much for today.
We just kind of wanted to talk to you guys.
And seriously, you know, like we got people watching.
If you have a question, just ask it.
Or you got a point to make, just make the point.
We'll read it.
Like, we're today's really organic feedback day.
You know, we didn't get a whole lot from you guys today.
We appreciate the people that said stuff.
But for everyone watching, you know, next time, just say whatever you want us to cover.
We'll do a little segment on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim tompkins
And we were just getting back into it.
I know you disappeared.
I was on vacation, but I'm here.
rex jones
We're doing a live tomorrow or probably not because I got to do the thing with Stein.
tim tompkins
Okay.
He's going to be on with Alex Stein.
That's a secret.
Oh, I can't remember.
rex jones
I just don't want to announce my location.
tim tompkins
Well, I'm not going to say where, but yeah, I'll do a thing with Alex Stein.
Okay.
So at the end of the day, I think the next segment will probably be Sunday then.
rex jones
If we don't go live tomorrow, big show on Sunday.
We'll do a huge three-hour show on Sunday.
We can go live Friday too.
tim tompkins
Friday too.
rex jones
Change it up a little bit this week.
tim tompkins
I wouldn't mind a Friday night, spend it with you guys.
rex jones
We'll do a Friday show.
We'll do the Sunday show.
We're going to have Matt Baker on as a guest.
Slave to Liberty on X. He's a great guy.
They call him the dreadhead Alex Jones.
He's a phenomenal character.
You'll really like him, Tim.
We're going to spend some good time together.
And we're going to do that whole World War II topic as well.
It's going to be an especially long broadcast.
And we just like, just thank you for being here tonight, real quick.
Titan for truth.
Not to change the subject.
Just a quick question.
Has Alex given any thought to carry multivitamins for kids?
We used to do that.
It was called the Honor Roll.
That was an InfoWars live product that we sold.
It was a good product, but we don't have it anymore.
Definitely something to think about in the future.
Great stream, Rex.
Nice to finally catch one.
When is the next one?
Friday and Sunday.
tim tompkins
Yeah, we'll do one Friday, Sunday.
Sunday will be a little bit of a guest and then also more educational because a lot of people asked about World War II.
I'm glad that we got this cross-streaming going on to where people can watch wherever they would.
Yeah, we figured it out finally.
But we're still going to be producing like Tim Brush Up on the events of post-World War Europe before the yeah, I will.
Like, I'm here's the thing about me.
I enjoy information.
So I'm going to be doing like a pretty deep dive.
There's a lot to cover.
So like I know a lot of people were saying in the last thing that I posted about this just to see like what people want to talk about.
There's a lot of information to cover, guys.
unidentified
Right.
tim tompkins
So it's going to be very difficult for me to cover the entire world, the entire war.
I'll probably not lean into the Japan chapter.
We'll probably stick more towards the European because that's more relevant.
So I'll come out.
I'll make sure that I have all the information for that.
It'll be more Europe, European-based.
Overall, I think this was a phenomenal show tonight.
Please give me a follow.
I really am trying to.
rex jones
Follow him on X at Truism Tim.
Go ahead and do it, guys.
I'd really appreciate it.
tim tompkins
He really appreciate it.
I do.
rex jones
You got to subscribe to the gray area.
tim tompkins
And I do comment because the thing is, is like, I'll look at your DMs.
I'm good with talking to people.
I do enjoy interacting with you guys.
So like I'm, I'm small and I don't plan on like being one of those people that just ignores a bunch of people.
So like this is a really good opportunity.
And there's a lot of you that I'll remember like however far the show goes.
We're planning on taking this very far.
So like just, I want you guys to be part of the process and follow me along with the journey because this is something that's important to me.
And it's also something that I love to do for you guys.
So yeah, give me a follow and then also follow Gray Area Talks, which is that is our main platform where you're going to find the longer form content and you're going to find the longer clips that we've done.
There'll be like 20 minute segments, 17 minute segments that you can go on there and watch some of our larger streams.
And those are typically the ones that we do on Sunday that have a little education to them.
rex jones
Yes.
Thank you all and good luck and good night.
tim tompkins
Thank you guys.
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