Alex, Marky Gags, Miles Media, and Joe dissect racial diversity, peptide ethics, and nuclear deterrence before analyzing Kanye West's UK ban for alleged antisemitism. They then deconstruct the toxic dynamics of Summer House and Vanderpump Rules, detailing Kyle and Amanda's 2026 separation, Wes's alleged gay baiting to seduce Sierra, and the show's manipulation by producers. Ultimately, the hosts critique the attention economy, arguing that reality TV participants sacrifice mental health for fame while exposing the moral decay within influencer culture. [Automatically generated summary]
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Getting A Picture Of His Gains00:15:01
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
It's your boy Schultze, Alex Media, Marky Gags in the building, and.
And Miles Media.
Oh, sorry, Miles Media.
Miles Media.
Miles Media Joe is in here.
My bad.
That is a good point.
Give yourself a drop.
Give yourself a drop one time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's go.
I mean, come on, bro.
That's why I didn't say it.
Yeah.
That's why I didn't say it.
I mean, he wasn't ready for his moment, bro.
Yeah.
Come on, dude.
What you're asking, and shout out to Robert Kelly, because he had a whole special, I think, named after this.
Yes, the final fat.
The final fat.
Yeah.
Not really hilarious comedic, but uh, but yeah, you asked me if I'm getting to this point where I'm like, I'm not gonna lose the weight again.
You said you gained weight, you were just like, Yeah, I got to a point where I've gained a couple pounds.
It's the point where it's like, if I have pizza, it's like a two week stint of pizza.
No, it's like it stays on me for weeks.
I used to have like, I used to be like, when I was a kid, it was like three shits, I'd be back in shape.
No, how do you keep telling this lie?
You've never been in shape.
I'm sorry, but never like, you used to think you had abs at a certain point.
There's one picture of him.
He's in the towel.
It's like kind of boy.
It's like super far away.
Fuck you.
No, I'm backing you up.
I'm backing you up.
There is a picture.
The time when you're glorious and far away.
It was a different time.
It was the 1900s.
It was difficult.
The time when you were on the island with Duval and no shirt, it was just like no arms and you were like flexing.
This is a New York guy.
I don't know who looked worse, him or Duval.
And Duval looks like an alien.
New York white dude.
Duval, you're going to take that, bro.
That's Duval.
You're going to take that.
I don't know.
You're going to let him talk to you like that, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Come over here and smack the shit out of him with one of your chonklets.
Yeah, painted nails and opinions.
This guy got painted nails and opinions.
It's disgusting.
Big deflection.
Nah, bro.
Nah, but you look good now.
I was just giving you a compliment.
I'm taking no compliment at all.
And then you just started to say he looks like shit.
I didn't say that.
I just said.
Can we start with positivity?
Can we try that?
I agree.
I tried that.
Hi, everybody.
Hello.
My name is Andrew.
I'm here with Alex.
I'm here with Mark.
We're also here with Miles.
And we're just going to start out by saying one nice thing about each other.
All right.
All right.
You start.
Mm hmm.
Okay, that was a disc on him.
I know that's kind of pretty.
Did somebody pick that up?
Did anybody pick that up?
Probably, Moss.
Can you add that?
Okay, I will start.
Okay, I think you look better with less muscles.
Okay, see, no, that because that's an insult.
Why is that an insult?
You're framing it like it's a good thing.
I don't think I've lost less muscle.
You got you were like you were Aquaman for a minute, dude.
No, no, there was a moment where you were like really beefy and like strong.
I talked to Chad and said that I still have the strength, I just need to lose weight.
What have you cut out?
You've cut out exercise to be like.
I had a kid.
It's like heroin chic, but you don't look like the heroin has hit yet.
I'm coming off a shoulder injury.
So it's like, it's just chic?
Just chic.
Yeah, you go.
But you miraculously.
The heroin's close.
It's far behind.
You've lost how many pounds of muscle?
No, I've gained muscle probably.
You just can't see it because I'm bulking.
I mean, come on.
He's there.
You shouldn't lie.
I'm bulking.
Like, it's too close.
I'm concerned about.
Weather that will like expose my body.
Like, I'm wearing like hoodies to the gym and shit, and they'll be like 60, and I'll be like, I'm keeping this motherfucker on.
Because it's like, if I got a tight shirt under, you're starting to see the belly.
Are you going to do t shirt in the pool or something?
No, I can't do it.
If you go, I'll do it.
I'll push you in if you want.
You're going to be like, Dove, I'll push you in.
And then if you're like, why are you wearing a shirt?
Be like, ah, so push me in.
Dove has so much confidence with the worst body.
It's like, he has huge fat tits.
And Hips.
He's like the women he did.
He looked like he could do one of those dances that his people do.
Oh, the belly dance.
Yeah, like he's built like a belly dance.
But he doesn't shake, it just shakes.
Oh my God, but he's so confident about it.
Yeah, that's awesome.
He looked good.
I want to say something nice about you.
Yes.
Okay.
I like your metal, I like your Harley Davidson inspired WTF media merch.
Yes.
Thank you.
I assume it's Harley inspired.
Or biker gang inspired?
Godspeed.
It's a brand that they have graphic tees similar to this.
What do you think they're inspired by, you fucking idiot?
This is not the only design they do.
That was five seconds before an insult.
I was trying to be positive.
Well, that's awesome that you did the Godspeed thing.
That's really good.
And I like it.
Black brand, you know?
Is it?
You like to copy black brands?
You know?
Are you giving them a piece?
So you're just ripping off other body science.
I got it.
Okay.
I've got it in 2026.
We can live now.
How far off are we from like a micro-ducing, micro-ducing, micro-dosing?
Okay.
I'm like, the fat drug.
Oh, close.
GOP-1.
I mean, he's on it already.
Yeah, the GOP-1.
No.
Wait, wait.
Why isn't that the inception of the drug?
I don't want to take away my whole appetite.
I don't want to change everything.
Take away dessert.
Take away bread.
You're not on it yet?
No, but I'm so close to doing all the drugs.
Guys, let me tell you something.
Let me tell you what I'm about to be a peptide king.
To be 40 years old and to have children, I don't know a single guy that is my age that is not bringing up peptides within the first three minutes of every conversation.
Yeah, it's going to kill us all.
Do you think?
I'm on the NAD.
You are on the NAD?
Yeah.
I just don't think it's free, bro.
Yeah, it's not free.
Neither is alcohol, neither is coffee.
Yeah, exactly.
Neither is heroin.
Okay, I'm not on heroin, all right?
It's not on heroin.
I think you're, no, no, no.
It's not heroin.
What is it?
It's this is the most if if we can be the most insulting to Mark, it's you've lost all of your gains, yeah, so much, dude.
I was gained.
You need to get a picture of his gains, dude.
Wait, there is a picture of him coming out of the pool, yeah.
This is like summer when he peaked just for July.
Goodness, yeah, this is like 28th of July.
Mark, when he couldn't do a pull up, yes, yeah, you're back in Pittsburgh when he can't do the monkey bar, yeah, that's what happened.
That's so we're going in cycles, bro.
What company is going to sell?
The GLP 1, the fat shots, where it just takes, what if it could take away specific meals?
That's what I'm saying.
Bread.
What if it made me not like bread?
It made sugar taste bad.
Imagine that.
Isn't that what I'm saying?
It is.
Yes, and.
Yes, and.
Oh, yes, and.
Yes.
What is this?
Don't post this.
Brother.
Oh, brother.
Shut up.
That did not come from me.
What does it mean?
Is this fucking nano banana?
Don't talk about my penis like that.
David had this queued up.
And just sent it to me immediately.
David is so dicked.
I'm going to be dead serious right now.
Is that you?
Yes, that's me from before I had a child.
No, but this is a real image, or is that a chat GPT image?
It's a real image.
You have fallen.
Okay, I know.
You know what I mean?
Honestly, David's side.
That's a perfect body.
This is David's background on his side.
That's a perfect body.
Before and after.
I didn't know you declined this much.
No, I'm going to come back.
I'm going to circle back on that.
That's not it.
But look at him on the roid.
You see all the fucking veins and shit popping out.
Mark, that's not.
To be honest, is that ChatGPT or not?
Nah, he was on a test right here.
Unfortunately, that was me.
You was on a test.
That was me and my glory days.
Holy moly.
What happened?
I don't think I ever had that.
He was on a test, a little test?
No.
No, you can't because that shit makes your balls mad vascular, bro.
Crazy vascular.
No, but not the good guy.
Oh, not the good guy.
Nah.
That's what I mean.
Chris Bonnois or whatever his name is.
That shit made me uncomfortable.
No, but the type that, like, you about to kill your wife and shit like that and off yourself right before.
Nah, because Benoit never had a body like that.
This is it?
He's like an action figure.
Like, this is an insane body.
Yeah, this is what happens when you have kids.
It just all falls apart.
My literal thought was, like, I want to get in shape one time before I never get in shape.
Yo, why are you blaming your kids, bro?
It's a trade, bro.
It's a trade, bro.
I'm telling you.
You've always had this before kids.
I never had it.
I never had this.
I'm telling you.
You've never had it.
My belt is made of leather, right?
You've never had it.
Can I make this point, please?
Can I make this point?
My belt is made of leather, okay?
Leather stretches.
Like, you know how you have a belt for a year, it no longer fits you.
This shit fits perfect.
I haven't even moved a nut.
You're stretching with it.
I'm stretching with the belt.
Look at that.
Like, do you think this is.
That's a good shape.
Did you just see the picture before?
Can we just hold on?
Hold on.
I know you're making your point here, but that's good shape.
And I'm having a king cake in New Orleans.
Like, that's good shape.
It's good.
I would die to have that back.
I would do it.
Anything to have a side by side with Wolverine Mark for a second because I'm not saying I'm Mark, I'm not saying I'm Mark.
Like, that's good.
Yo, Mark, you could get nutted in.
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
Mark, you could get nutted in.
I know.
Real talk.
No, no, no.
Stop.
Don't stop nutting me.
No, no.
Holy shit.
I'm trying to put some ice skates on everybody.
What is that?
Okay, no, Mark.
That body's crazy.
This is like that rivalry hockey show right there.
You got one of those.
Okay, for the record, I just want to say something.
I'll try to act like he ain't binge watched that show.
Get the fuck out of here.
It would have hit hard if I knew the name of it.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
Also, for the record, my 13 year old nephew started listening to this program.
Mm hmm.
He talked to me when I was down in Florida.
He was about to wash, bro.
I don't want to say his name.
I can't say his name.
That's the family's name.
Is he a Gagnon?
Yes.
All right.
Young Gagnon.
Your uncle could get nutted.
Okay, no, I know.
No, he could have got it.
Your uncle could catch the full load.
It's inappropriate.
And you keep pumping.
You don't even stop.
I'm not going to ask.
Full load, keep pumping until there's nothing left.
What the fuck?
So everyone's in shape?
So everybody's trying to be in shape?
So we only got one picture of me with a king cake?
I'm just saying.
That's the only pictures we have is me with a king cake?
At the time, why does this post?
Does Alex Media have really a 9.5?
Yeah, baby.
What's the next?
Click over.
Stay right there, though.
Click over.
And see the difference between not seeing the right forearms?
Go back, Damn, you look so short.
You are so short.
I don't even count you're in shape.
I could take that.
Because if your peak was that bad, how tiny he is.
Now you've fallen off dramatically.
Al, for real, you can't show Al without Logan because then he looks like a normal sized person.
You look miniature on that one.
Can you zoom in?
Look how close your tits are to your belly button.
That's not normal.
You shouldn't have that little distance between.
Can you put your nipple in your belly button?
I know it sucks that you've never looked good.
It must suck.
Son, I'm married.
I got kids.
Yeah, so what about the whole thing?
That's a face swap, too.
You don't have that type of chin.
Look at that.
That guy's in good shape.
Look at that, bro.
That guy's in good shape.
Who's happy?
Who's happy, you think?
Son, I look like one of them whales that will catch a rugby ball.
Have you seen the guy's toys?
Beluga?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, get a beluga monster.
Damn, bro.
I want to say it's because I got kids, but I didn't have any back then, man.
I had no excuse to not be in shape.
We all had the same exact time to work out.
God damn, Al, you were in good shape.
Mark looks better, objectively.
Let's go.
Yeah, but he does look better.
That's right.
But he also has a better pose.
You're posing too flat.
Yeah, that's true.
You don't got to bring up the picture to Beluga, Jogie.
Jogie.
Google Belugas, man.
Come on.
We know where they're going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you can bring it up.
Bring it up.
Let me see.
Let me see what it looks like.
Nah, Mark, you used to look good, though.
Yeah, no, it's just, and that's just, you put it up on the wall and you say, All right, that was me.
You sure you're kidding?
I ain't even wearing beluga abs.
Do beluga abs.
Yeah, have you seen how jacked the beluga is?
They're in unbelievably good shape.
Yeah, bro, look at that.
Low key, that looks like me on the bed with the kink there.
And that's my forehead, bro.
Is that great?
That's a perfect time.
Damn, Mark.
Oh, how long did it take?
Damn, Mark.
Yo, I know.
I might even clean you up, ass.
Stop.
Stop.
I'll be like, yo, go fart that out.
Let me get your towel.
My nephew's watching this.
You got the red towel by the red side.
Yo, fart that out, fam.
Literally, my nephew's watching this.
That's inappropriate.
Yo, Gagnon's nephew, your uncle had it, bro.
He had it.
Had it.
That's crazy.
And you know when he did it?
You did this when wifey was pregnant, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So when his wife was at her fattest, this is what he looked like.
You're a son of a bitch.
Yeah, that's fine.
You're a window to do it.
This is my only chance.
To do it, nah, that's what else am I ever gonna build, bro?
I at least gain weight with my wife.
That's love, thank you.
That's love and solidarity.
Yeah, oh, you're like, Well, you're your fattest.
I'm gonna look.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Damn, that's bad.
I think I got body dysmorphia the other way, yes.
You got something, bro.
I think you think you look better than you do, son.
I, when me and Dove sat next to each other, stood next to each other for this exact pick, you don't, I, in my mind, I was like.
We're looking at two different human beings.
Like, I literally was like, how could Dove even think that he's even close to me?
It's closer than you think.
That's what I've been trying to tell you.
That's the straight of or moves right there, bro.
I don't know if you can tell me.
That's really close.
Yeah, it's very narrow.
That's a narrow fucking lead I had.
I had a lead at least.
Yeah.
But it was narrower.
Yeah, but then Dove's face.
Yeah, but you have a chin, though, so you're good.
No, Dove's face card wins.
He's got a great face card.
I was in good shape back then.
Come on, I was in good shape.
Yeah, you had a tan.
Yeah, this is yeah.
All right, man, we got it, bro.
We got it.
Can I live?
You got luck?
Can I live?
Can I live?
Dove's Face Card Wins00:04:42
No, no, I don't got the handles.
I didn't have handles back then.
I didn't have handles.
You had the V cut with luck.
I didn't have handles.
Nah, I had the V cut.
My V is so strong.
Go back to dumb.
Go back to dumb.
Hold on, I have love handles.
Fuck out of here, bro.
It's going on.
That's a V cut, dumbass.
That's a V cut.
You need to grab it where it cuts.
Yo, no, dumb, dumb, dumb is blocking his handle.
That's a V cut, dumbass.
As long as it comes out, it's protruding his hand.
Yeah, because I have a muscle there from paddle.
What?
That's from paddle.
That's from getting down for them fucking shots.
Bro, a little vibra.
Yeah.
Pandeja.
Volley.
I got a paddle gun.
Wow, you're too lean, bro.
That's insanity right there.
You can't take a punch.
I could take a punch better than y'all.
Hmm.
We got to get back to that.
How are we going to get back to that?
No, no, no.
No, we don't have time.
You think I look good right now?
We don't have children.
If you are in shape and you don't have children, it doesn't count.
Yeah, it's not impressive.
Yeah, you should be.
Yeah, like what excuse do you have?
Imagine being fat with no kids.
Yeah, for what?
What is your excuse, Miles?
It's fucking lit, dude.
What is your excuse?
I have no excuses.
I also have no shame.
This shit rules.
Yeah, I wish I didn't have that.
Like, I mean, I wish I had that.
That confidence.
I'll eat like shit and I'll wear a shirt to bed because I'm embarrassed.
I did that last night.
I did it last night.
I did it last night.
I did it told my wife it was because the window was open.
It wasn't.
It was because I had so much bread all day and that pizza from four days ago was still hanging on my chest.
You feel so gross.
I got a fat.
I'll be winning the Pooh situation.
I got a couple of certain boxes.
I'm sleeping like my girl.
I'm getting on the GLP.
Well, I just want a little one.
Cut sugar out.
Yeah, imagine.
Getting off sugar, except for alcohol.
Well, there's a bunch of peptides.
Retta is one of them.
Yeah, the ratatouille, they're calling it.
They are calling it the ratatouille.
Oh, really?
That's what they're calling it.
That's what the looks maxers are calling it.
The ratatouille.
Really?
Because you got a little bit of a ratatouille.
It's ratatouille tied, right?
You're tapped in with them?
I didn't know you were tapped in like that.
I didn't know you had knowledge.
I didn't know you.
All right, y'all.
Yeah.
I learned this one.
Come on.
I think it might be.
It's the horns.
Come on.
Look at me.
Why would I even take that picture?
I don't know, bro.
I remember when you put it, I was like.
All right, he's a comedian.
I guess he's going for the funny.
Al's old post him standing in front of a car you didn't own.
I hated when Al did that.
You faker.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
You took a picture in front of a car you didn't own.
This is my car.
What are you talking about?
No, there was one.
And then the caption would be like, Man, my dreams are like clouds high.
You used to have Lil Wayne versus with the N word in them.
No, no, no, no.
I appreciate it.
Don't get sensitive about it.
This right here, you take dick in your mouth.
Look at that picture.
That was wild crazy.
Why you got your ankle up on a car bumper, bro?
Son's cars.
I really was like, yo, the outfit goes for dick.
Go to the capsule.
That shit's gonna be corny as shit.
Like, that's the extent of your fashion.
The colors is matching colors.
That hurt us.
That hurt us.
Nothing else has affected our life on the zone.
That was stupid.
Now we gotta go to Old Al's Instagram.
Go to Old Al's Instagram.
You need to see, like, and then we need you to see what we see, yeah.
Okay, let's go.
I'm a little bit of distance with some distance because you called it out years ago where you were like, Yeah, why you never look at the camera?
Oh, like you were doing your little fashion where you're like looking off into the distance.
I was nervous.
Good, don't load.
All right, did you delete old photos?
No, I don't think okay.
You just have to scroll a long time.
Oh, this is gonna take a while.
It's gonna take a while.
He'll find it.
He'll find it.
You never did look at the camera for years.
For years, you were just.
Yeah, I was, you know, not as comfortable.
Excuse me.
Oh, I'm a digestioner.
What happened right there?
Nah, I just see a little phlegm or whatever.
But no, I just wasn't comfortable taking pictures before.
Here's a great.
I didn't like it.
I still actually don't like it.
But then why were you taking them?
Because I thought that's what you have to do for Instagram.
Nah, that's badass.
That's fire.
That's fire.
That shit was sick.
See?
Give me some shit.
Is that the.
I think there's a bike that uh Shifty almost died on.
I think Shifty got struck on that dude.
Posting On Instagram For More Shows00:02:09
Yeah, I think so.
Oh no, oh no, damn.
Yo, shout out Shifty.
Shout out Shifty.
We love you, Shifty the Les.
We love you, my boy.
Free Shifty.
Free, Joe.
I sent you one.
Free Shifty.
Yeah, we're gonna get a deal.
Miles, why are you working so hard to help Joey right now?
No, no, we need it.
Nah, this is oh, let's get a cash.
Let's get a cash.
It's nine to five is how you survive.
I'm not trying to survive.
I'm trying to live to the limit and live a lot.
We used to have to see this every single day.
Jay Z Lyric in front of my own car.
This is fly.
Y'all ain't going to shame me for this one.
I stand on this one.
I stand on this one.
I want to read some of the comments gassing you up.
This is like, yo, tell them folk living lavish, still grinding like I'm broke.
Black excellence.
That's a flick.
Shout out to Eddie.
Fly and flick.
Guys, quick tour update.
Finally, after a year and a half, we're getting back out there on the road.
I'm very excited.
We posted a couple cities.
We posted Tampa and Salt Lake, man.
Thank you guys so much for selling out those shows.
Anybody who reached out asking if we're going to add more shows in those cities, it is possible.
If we do, I'll make sure I post on my Instagram or something like that.
But thank you so much.
We just added Denver and Virginia Beach as well.
I'm sure we'll add some more cities coming up as we start to put together this next hour, man.
Figure out what this tour is going to be like.
So I'm excited to come see you guys once again.
I'll probably post on my Instagram if we're adding more shows or most cities coming up.
But theandrewschultz.com if you want to grab tickets for those places.
Mark, what you got?
April 23rd, Providence, Rhode Island.
Yeah, baby.
Yeah, Comedy Connection.
Great club.
Thanks, Al.
And then Plano, Texas later this year, Mike Drop in Chandler, Pasadena, California, San Diego, and Detroit, as well as the monthly show that I do with my good pal, David Sanchez and Joey Avery.
At Mary Lou's called Static Cat.
That is on April 28th, April 20th.
Yes.
And that's it for me.
Would you take peptides?
April 23rd In Providence Rhode Island00:05:16
Would I?
Okay.
Why would you not?
What stopped me right now?
No, Really?
What Alice got a picture with Rihanna?
No, oh no, sorry, come on.
You took a fake pic with Rihanna?
Yeah, are you kidding?
Wait, hold on, go down.
No, Joey, yeah, Joey, keep going, keep going a little more.
And there you go, oh, it was April Fools, I think.
Look at the exact date.
Oh, she shares the birthday as my mom.
All right, that's why.
Yeah, it was fun.
It's fun for the grand, bro.
That's a great ass photoshop, though.
It was April Fools.
Oh, and then this is the time where you told them to put.
Dicks on my Instagram.
Oh, God.
So far, for about a year.
It's my fault.
For a year, I was getting eggplants and people were sending me dick pics.
Oh, man.
Because y'all said that on the podcast.
That's so funny.
How?
How?
I thought it was April Fool's.
How?
It was April Fool's.
I thought it was.
It was something.
How?
How?
The knee jerk reaction.
That picture is from 476 weeks ago as a knee jerk reaction.
Oh, no, that was April Fool's.
I thought it was something.
I knew I did it for a reason.
But I guess just to, you know.
Get my shit off.
Damn.
February 20th.
Black history, man.
Black history.
Yeah, Black history.
Black Echoes.
Yeah, and people expect it on April Fools.
You do it on February 20th.
Who sees Echoes?
Shut up, Mark.
I'm agreeing with you.
I'm bailing you out.
Can we free Christy Gnome's husband real quick?
Can we just free him real fast?
Is that, yeah, get some picks up, dude.
Yeah, I got to stop shaming this guy, bro.
I look like him.
When I saw that picture of him with the titties, I was like, this is me in the mirror now.
Like, that's what I look like.
That's why I'm putting on that t shirt before I go to bed.
Thank you.
Them nipples is like Kash Patel eyes.
Yo, that's funny.
Yo, that's funny.
Can you explain to me what this absolute saint is doing?
Oh, poor guy.
And what type of new phrase is that with the face?
Like, is that some type of bingoification?
No, no, no, but like the clavicular sayings.
Like, what?
Does that have a name for that type of face when somebody's doing that face?
That face?
I can't.
No.
I mean, maybe not.
It's not a frame moggin or some shit like that.
Duck Lips Maxon?
Yeah, he might be Duck Maxon.
It might be DSL Maxon.
DSL Maxon?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, what's the deal?
Like, he's just into cross dressing and he's being shamed for this?
Yeah, he's into this.
It's kind of his little kink.
And apparently, it's been going on for a long time.
He's married to Christy Nome, former head of the DHS.
Hear that?
Is it Jumanji back there?
Yeah, we just they're doing some construction, okay?
They're constructing something, it just sounds not part of our studio.
Good game, something else.
Yeah, that does sound like my pump.
I was like, I'm right here.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now they got my pump.
You thought it was bad, yeah.
I was like, Wait, I'm not playing my shit.
We went too far back.
You know, somebody's playing my head.
I was like, That's on my gram, too.
Fuck.
This is how it feels to be your neighbor, bro.
Isn't that crazy?
Think about that.
Al, you're short stroking?
This is like towards the end when you're.
Yo, do you try to like slow and do all the rhythm and all that kind of stuff?
It depends how I look.
I'm just trying to laugh.
If I look like Brian here, then no.
But if I'm looking like old Beluga Morse.
Were you fuck different when you were in really great shape?
Yeah, I think so.
You kind of feel yourself, you know, you got to get a mirror on the side.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Maritime.
Yeah.
But then now you see a mirror and you're like, Oh my, what is that guy doing to that girl?
Yeah, you see yourself in the mirror now, you're like, Oh, load!
Yeah, the mirror is insane.
Yeah, you need mirrors all around your house, it keeps you looking better than that.
It keeps you in check, right?
Yeah, what is better than that?
That was such an unnecessary.
He would encourage you to, like, he's feeling like that.
Yeah, you need to, you need some of that.
Yeah, you do hit the bateman a little bit.
Come on, you owe it to your wife, bro.
He finished, by the way.
She had a kid.
Two.
And, you know, she's doing what she got to do.
What do you owe?
The fuck you talking about?
What do you owe?
I'm keeping myself alive.
What do you owe to your wife?
I look good for my wife.
She looks good for me.
Schultz is a knuckle thief in his own belly.
Goddamn, Schultz.
That's how I judge my fat, how far my finger goes in my own belly.
It's watching you do it.
Oh, I can't do this.
I'm an oil check right now.
Are you a good little nutritionist?
Oh, that shit is.
You bring clients in, you're like, all right, let me take a look.
Put the glove on.
You think, I got about a knuckle deep.
Yeah.
Oh, I know that knuckles probably smells disgusting.
No, my belly button doesn't smell.
Really?
Yeah.
I've heard people say that.
Smell it.
No, I don't.
Come on, you white.
Y'all do that type of shit.
No smell.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm honest about smells.
Can we acknowledge that?
What about your ear?
No, my ear doesn't smell.
My, obviously, my farts and that kind of shit.
Yes.
But like, no, none of this other stuff.
This, like, belly button smell.
I didn't know that that was a real thing.
Somebody said that the other day, like, oh, what does your belly button smell like?
I'm like, what is that?
Keeping Yourself Alive With Your Wife00:09:42
Yeah, no, you can't.
So you get in there when you wash?
Yeah.
No, you don't.
Come on.
Hey, come on.
Oh, when you say it like that, like, who'd get ginseng?
I don't think I get it.
Totally all.
Totally all.
Aren't you scrubbing it with the loofah?
That's like when you asked me about the Rihanna picture just now.
Come on, man.
No, you let the suds get in there.
Let the suds get in.
You really in shape for no reason, huh?
For my wife, I keep it together.
She's not from America, bro.
Like, you have even more fat.
Even more, I gotta keep it in shape.
Why?
Because they used to people being in shape.
You know, like, I don't want to stay.
The way she's looking right now, I might be going over there.
You going to Spain?
Fuck out of here.
Spain is closer.
They might be able to reach Spain.
Yeah, but right now they fucking with Trump a little bit too much.
They gotta chill out.
What you mean?
Like they're not letting us land on their bases, they're not trying to help at all.
So that makes you safe from Iran, but it might not make you safe from America dropping a nuke on you.
No, we can't be hey, hey, we can't nuke Spain.
Oh, yeah, we're recording this Tuesday.
Oh, yeah, by the way, if anything happens tonight, yeah, if the world is over tonight, we're gonna still upload it.
Yeah, I'll be texting Miles, I'll figure it out.
I'll be knocking on Miles' door with my leg hanging off, just like yo, get the episode up and make sure that it starts with your what's up.
We're selling for Patreon or regular episodes?
Yeah, same shit.
Type shit.
But yeah, Spain wouldn't be too bad.
But in order to keep your girl happy, I feel like you just need to keep up with the level of fitness in Spain.
You don't need to be like diesel, diesel, because the average Spanish guy just is regular.
Yeah, that's why I'm good.
But she doesn't want the average Spanish guy.
There's nothing about me average, boy.
I would say you're below average height.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, 100%.
I'm actually average height.
I think you're below average height.
5'9 is average.
Based off what?
Global average?
No, American average.
The American average?
Yeah.
I think you're average, Lady Bowie.
I think you're average height for Lady Bowie.
Yeah, you'd be a baddie.
You are going to build like a Lady Bowie.
You'd be a baddie.
You would be a baddie, right?
No.
What you mean, I'm top heavy.
See?
Bang.
Yeah, but that's what they go for.
Like, if you're in, if you get a ladyboy, you don't want her to look like, or him to look like a girl, girl.
Just because you could just fuck a girl.
You want them to feel a little more masculine.
I don't think that's how it works, bro.
Of course.
Why not just have sex with a girl?
You're paying them.
It's a hooker.
It's not like you can't just get a female hooker.
Yeah, but they go to Taiwan because the men and women look the same.
Thailand.
No, Oh, yeah.
Same shit.
Disney World, Disney Land.
Same shit.
You got to get a hooker, bro.
Same shit.
No, in all seriousness, I feel like they want a little bit more masculine.
That's why they're doing it.
They want a little Christy Gnome's husband.
They want Christy Gnome's husband.
Yeah, that's what you want.
That's what you want.
Like, do you want the baddest ladyboy?
Why not just be with a lady lady?
Because they can't get a lady.
So they get the ones that.
So this is the point that I was making.
Once you're paying for sex, you can get anything.
I would think the bad lady ladies charge more than the lady boys.
They're getting a discount.
They're like, oh, take the dick on a discount.
No, they did.
They cost extra.
They pay more for the lady boy.
Lady boy is more.
Nah.
Yes.
No, the currency is shit over there.
Like, it's mad cheap.
Yeah, but all things are, Al, you're getting a little over your head right now.
All things are the same because you're paying for it over there no matter what.
So you can get a lady girl or a lady boy.
I thought it's only lady boys.
Doing prostitution over there.
No, wherever prostitution lives, you have all types of it.
Oh, okay.
I thought, like, if you go there, you're going for ladyboys.
No, this is that I think you're right.
This is next level gooners trying to give it a spin.
This is like the end stage gooners that are like, yeah, let's try it out.
That's what I think.
They're going over there.
They're like, I've always wanted to get one of these.
Let's give it a goon.
I think it's that too.
Like, they're desensitized to everything.
Yeah.
And they like, I want to ask one of these people, Miles, can we go over there?
I've never been over there.
Can we?
That, what an interview.
Just like a ladyboy connoisseur.
Yeah.
What would you rather?
Would you rather the most beautiful ladyboy indistinguishable from a lady girl?
Or, uh oh.
Oh, that's, that's, that's, all right.
All right.
So, her or the most beautiful ladyboy you've ever seen?
Her.
And it's just head.
You're just getting head.
Her.
Her.
You're lying because he goes lady boy.
No, no, no.
You go lady boy.
Because there's a hundred percent chance that girl has like a pretty hot black boyfriend.
Yeah, we can't give Al his ideal girl.
That's unfair.
That's unfair.
You called me hot, so I'll take the compliment.
I am a hot guy, but now you go lady boy, you go fat white.
There's a skinny Jamaican guy right behind her.
Why are you looking at me, whale?
Good morning.
90 Day Fiat, you gotta do what you gotta do.
You gotta do what you gotta do.
Oh, man.
No, but now, same question.
I mean, probably, I mean, one, yeah, probably that.
One of them's a sin against God, you know?
Don't bring religion to this.
I hate you.
Yo, stop it.
Stop it.
Make a fucking decision.
You going beluga whale or you going.
I wouldn't call them blue.
I would just say they're beautiful women.
So do you fuck a woman that looks like Andrew or a ladyboy?
Man.
Hot lamb.
Hold on.
H Yeah, I'd give it a spin.
No, I'm not above it.
No, no.
I mean, we've all taken down some big, but you haven't taken out big.
You've taken out big.
Yeah, yeah.
That's been big as a rite of passage, low key.
Big as a rite of passage.
You haven't lived.
Big?
Do they have that in Taiwan?
Do they have big?
If I pull to Taiwan, I'm like, hey, I need a bitch.
Did you go to the red light districts when we were in Amsterdam?
Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm not.
Did you walk through it?
They got big for sale.
Yeah, yeah.
That shit is good.
That makes me uncomfortable a little bit.
Which the red light district?
Yeah, just beam in the window.
Smacking on it, I do not like it.
It's a lot, right?
I prefer being in there with them.
No, no, it is, it does feel very weird.
Yes, and I remember walking through it.
We were just like, feels weird, yeah.
Miles gave it a walk, he told us about it.
No, he went to the blue light.
What's that?
Yeah, I mean, perfect lady boy.
I liked walking through in like the daytime, the morning shift because you see that like the nighttime shift costs more.
Yeah.
Oh, there were less attractive girls in the day.
Yeah, it's like the open mic.
Yeah, I'm here for real.
This is girls kind of trying it out.
Damn.
Why are you shitting on open mic?
It's like that.
Everyone's got to start somewhere.
You got to come up.
That is a good point.
Yeah.
But they're starting at like the 12 o'clock shift, you know what I mean?
And then they work down at like five, and then they get prime time, you know, 10 30, 11.
Oh, that's what you're working toward.
What if, yeah, what if it doesn't work out?
You got open mic body right now, bro.
No, he's not that crazy.
Okay.
He still doesn't look like a comedian.
Yeah.
There's nothing more insulting than saying it.
It's got to win a little bit.
It gives you the money of a comedian.
Because if I get in terrible shape, I do think it'll help.
Oh, it's funnier.
Right?
It's way funnier.
What's funny?
This guy.
You can tell how to read this, bro.
This guy is insane.
I'm about to get ripped to spite him, right?
And you just get on peptides and get there.
This is what a good friend does.
I body shame you until you fucking get in shape.
I need to get in shape.
That's what good friends are supposed to do.
But I also.
I hate when you guys say I look good.
We've never said that.
Yeah, we never said that.
There you go.
Keep me motivated.
But I keep saying you're short and you haven't fixed that.
No, he's short.
One day.
That's right.
That's right.
One day I'll get the low.
Would you do the extendo?
Nah, not at all.
It's too much.
It's like a year of your life of recovery.
Yeah.
I'm not that short.
You got a Vantage Max.
Vantage Maxing is.
What's this?
This is the clavicular thing.
Oh, yeah.
Where he's like, if you bring a girl to your place and you're wearing lifts in your shoes, you take your shoes off.
He's like, by all means, you got to keep your shoes on so that we're lifted.
Oh, and you stand in different places and make different spots where you can kind of elevate yourself.
Yeah.
And so you just, you put like a little book over here, put a little stool over here, and you just kind of bounce from one to the other.
But there's nothing that you, my wife is stuck, you like had felt that you would do to fix your shortness.
No, I'm good.
But being like a short guy, it's bad.
See, the short don't bother you.
That shit he said earlier, that shit, that touched you a little bit.
Wait, where's one?
I don't know.
Because we might cut it out.
No, When that guy knows when he just mocks you, no, no, when you mock him, yeah, like, do you do?
There is no, oh, oh, no, that guy looks great.
I don't want to look like that, yeah, that's too much, that's too much, yeah, yeah, that would be sucked to look like that, would be horrible, yeah, like that, dude, can't even do anything, yeah, right?
Mocking White People Looks Embarrassing00:07:39
That's not funny, come on, really funny about it, yeah, jeez, what else is going on in the world, guys?
There's things going on in the world, hey, Alex, you had an interesting take about the Drewski skit, you were you thought it was wrong.
The fuck?
That's interesting.
I remember that.
I remember when you were like, this is wrong and disrespectful to the whites?
To the whites of the world?
And we were like, no, it's comedy.
You can say whatever the fuck you want.
Yeah, I'm losing my mind.
Do you remember this?
I said this?
Yeah, you were like, this is wrong and disrespectful to white people who work so hard to give me my freedom.
Oh, if I said it, I'm standing on it.
Yeah, I said it's fucked up, bro.
Yeah, it's bad, bro.
White power.
Whoa, okay.
I mean, wait, do they.
Do they do the fist for white power?
What do y'all do?
No, there's a very famous one that I've invited.
Not the straight hand, but I mean, what else do y'all do at white power meetings?
I don't know.
The fist thing, I don't know if it doesn't really hit the same, you know, compared to what's your son?
Oh, what's this?
What you just did?
It's the hitty.
That one, you can fucking throw it out.
I'm not gonna throw it out here.
That's great.
That's a classic.
White power is like, it's a little beneath us to say.
It's kind of bragging.
It's like dunking the, you know what I mean?
It's like garbage time buckets.
Yeah, it's like you're up 30 and you're like, we're in power.
It's like, we know, everybody knows.
Like, it's not like any white people that are doing that, it's kind of embarrassing.
It's like, what is that thing called when you're like, it's when people are being like a little too loud?
Like, old money people will say it about like new, but you're being gauche.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's a little gauche.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a little gauche.
Like the whites that like say white power were just like, ugh.
God damn it.
Stop saying it so loud.
Don't talk.
Guys, guys.
Oh, that's.
Yeah.
Okay.
Don't you think those whites are saying it out of pure insecurity?
I don't know.
It just seems like y'all are down bad right now.
Whites ain't looking good right now.
No, no, no.
There's a lot of infighting.
You got dumbasses like Jake Paul.
He wants to do blackface.
He wants to come on our team now and shit like that.
So it's like.
He's switching up.
Yeah, y'all are down bad.
That's permanent?
I think so.
I'm pretty sure he's been spending time in Puerto Rico and shit like that.
He wants to be Puerto Rican.
Shit.
Yeah.
They got white Puerto Ricans.
No.
No, you got a couple.
Those are my favorite.
You got white Puerto Ricans.
No, no, no.
Like a redhead dude that speaks perfect Spanish.
But they're not Mexican.
Yeah, literally.
Mexican.
Yeah.
Type shit.
They're not.
They're not.
It makes me laugh.
You don't consider them white.
No.
Because of the ethnicity, there's probably mixed heritage.
Correct.
That's fair.
That's an interesting thing about Latinos where it's like, it's not the hue of the skin necessarily that makes you white or black to Americans, but within Latin culture, they might identify as white.
Yeah, yeah.
And they'd be right to if their family's from fucking Germany, whatever, fleeing like whatever they.
Fled in the 1940s to Argentina.
Probably nothing bad at all.
No reason why he would move to Argentina in 1942.
Yeah.
Better weather.
But a lot of cultures do that.
It was the weather.
Who controls that?
I heard Asians call themselves white.
Bro, who was telling us that?
Chris Moreau.
Yeah.
Like, what was he saying?
What was he saying?
I forgot in what context, but I learned that.
Yeah.
I can see it.
But y'all not the only whites.
I can see it.
And actually, y'all are the worst whites.
They're better whites than y'all.
100%.
They're white?
Wait, wait, wait.
Explain that one to me.
Better at what?
Like, they're doing better in the economy.
Yeah.
Higher earners.
More, like, they got more numbers than you.
Yep.
So they fucking more.
Hold on.
Are there more?
So, the thing about whites, like white, there's not really like a what, like we've kind of just started including a lot of people in whiteness.
Cause you're down bad.
So, you fucking recruiting.
I wonder if it's down bad.
I wonder if it's just like a whole thing we just all made up in the first place.
Right.
I wonder if like they even talked about that.
Like, if people in Spain and people from Britain were like, hey, we're both white.
Should we be together?
I don't even know if that conversation was happening.
No.
Oh, now you're doing the race as a social construct shit like this guy.
No.
Let me fucking live out, dude.
Let me live out.
No, no.
Like, I wonder if they didn't like, This whole time, they're like, no, we're better because we're noble.
And then Americans were like, oh, dude, you don't even have to be noble.
You just got to have like a skin color.
Like, why are you trying so hard?
Like, that's all we needed.
But they fought it for a while because like the Irish and the Italians, they wasn't.
So this is what I'm trying to say.
It's like.
And then you're like, yo, let's, you know.
And now everybody's down.
Now, here's the question.
And this brings us to the looking alike conversation.
Black people get this a lot, Asians get this a lot.
That they look more similar.
And then I hear reflexively, oftentimes, black people will be like, oh, all white people look alike.
Yeah.
I think you could say, like, versions of white people look alike.
You could be like, all blonde white people look alike, all brown haired white people look alike.
But, like, in terms of a race of people, white people are the most diverse race.
We're the only race that has different eye color, different hair color, different hair texture.
Different skin texture, different facial features, different ethnicities.
That's a stupid take.
White people are the most diverse race of people.
It's just a fact.
I'm sorry.
Look at black people.
I'm sorry.
We had the same guy change his race in his lifetime.
Michael Jackson.
Until you have a Michael Jackson, right now you have racial dozo, and she's not coming.
You're making a good point.
Come on.
And I will give you credit for it.
That's all I'm saying.
You guys have the most range.
You guys have a lot of range.
You guys have range.
That Phil Ligo shit is a fucking.
It's an anomaly whites did not see coming.
Albino?
Come on, we got purple, black, and albinos.
We got albinos too, though.
Yeah, but it's just like a half a shade different.
What?
How lucky.
How lucky.
No, but if you talk about albinos, how lucky.
If you talk about diversity, though.
We're talking about like a rare medical condition.
What I'm talking about is without medical conditions, just purely, what I would say is African diaspora.
Not even just the diaphragm, but African in general.
Like you go from Sudanese to West African, East African.
And if you're including like the more like Arabic features that like the North Africans have, yes.
A lot of diversity there.
Nobody would go like, oh, a Sudanese person looks just like a Moroccan person.
I don't think.
Right.
And now for sake of this argument, I'm including South Africans.
Gang.
Gang.
But now we're not talking about race.
Elon's black.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Now let me make this argument.
Maybe.
Maybe you could say that black people have the most diversity.
If you're including Ethiopian, Somali, what is that?
The Horn.
Then you include like the Sudanese.
You include Maghreb, like North Africa.
Then you include West Africa, Cameroon.
But you're describing Africa now.
Well, hold on, hold on.
But then if you're including the Caribbean, now you have a mixture of like native tribe.
You also have a mixture of black and you have a mixture of European, Spanish, Portuguese.
Whoa!
Now we're talking about a lot of diversity over there.
This is interesting.
But your point is that it's crazy that there's an Italian guy from Sicily and an Irish guy.
And we're like, yeah, they're both white.
But I think you could probably make the same point for a Sudanese guy and Blake Griffin.
And Blake Griffin.
Diversity During The Cuban Missile Crisis00:09:39
Boom.
I need that.
Guys, listen, I hate to live out on you guys right now, but it might just be a construct, dude.
So, should we?
I hate to fucking live out on you right now as we do this podcast a few hours before the end of the world.
I know, right?
But before the world is over, it is cool that we came to the conclusion that we're really all the same.
We're all the same.
We just solved it.
We're all combined.
We're all unified.
We're all unified.
Yeah.
Pass the football, press the button.
So, the nuclear football.
So, are you guys mad at Drewski?
I'm too dumb to know these references.
What is that even from?
The nuclear football?
I have no idea why they just call the bag the nuclear football.
No way.
Yeah, from back in the day.
Did y'all hear that?
Explain this.
Explain this.
No, this is fun.
They would say, like, oh, the president currently has the nuclear football.
Like during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Like a suitcase that carries around with the codes?
Yeah.
Suitcase with a code and a key, and another guy had to have one.
This person follows him everywhere he goes?
Yeah.
I don't know why they call it that, though.
Yeah, I don't know why they call it that.
But this person follows him wherever he goes.
Wherever the president is, this person's not far behind.
And even when he's just like, Giving conversations or only when we're in like real time of that, I'm not 100% sure.
They call it.
It's a nickname after an early classified nuclear war plan called Dropkick because a football was required to do a dropkick.
So the name for the briefcase holding the launch option stuck, gaining popularity in the 60s.
The official name is the Presidential Emergency Satchel.
So, and can you ask if it goes with the president everywhere he goes, even when we're not involved in a crazy conflict?
I mean, it must.
It must, right?
Because, like, God forbid, some other country sends a nuke over here.
We got to have some.
Yeah.
Let me ask you guys this question.
You're the president of the United States.
You hear that a nuclear bomb is being sent over, or like tons of nuclear bombs are being sent over, and we don't have some sort of mechanism to stop it, right?
Let's assume we don't.
We don't have Patriot missiles or whatever that can like shoot it out of the sky.
I don't know what the technology is, but let's say they're all coming and it's assured death and destruction.
I just saw like a decent movie about this.
I just can't remember the name of the movie, but keep going.
Sorry.
This exact thing.
Yeah.
And okay, my question to you is.
You could hit the button that does the same thing to them.
Do you end humanity in that moment, or is there a part of you that goes, I wish I didn't get here, but it's not going to make it better if no humans no longer exist?
Like, yeah, you want to get your get back, and they all took you out, but the end is there's no more humans.
Do you hit the button, or do you let humanity continue?
And do you hope that eventually human beings can elect leaders that You know, we'll care more about our existence and the proliferation of humanity.
This isn't the American hooray answer, but I don't strike back.
Japan, look at them now.
Like, they didn't hit us back and now we're cool.
Yeah.
Granted, they didn't have a nuke.
They didn't have a nuke, but yes.
But yeah, I'm sure they could have done that.
Do they have one now?
They still have one.
Japan's like the biggest proponent of denuclearization.
Like, anytime anyone does a nuclear test, Japan sends them a letter like, yo, chill, bro.
Yeah.
So they're all over it.
As they should.
Yeah.
But then they should have like, The most.
I would tell everybody, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, hold up.
Wait for me.
Wait for me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, yo, so, okay, so you don't, and the reason is not that you don't want to defend your people, obviously.
The reason is that this ends all people.
Yeah.
So, what is the advantage?
Okay, Mark.
It's a tough one because it feels like you're being a bitch not defending your country.
It does feel like that.
But you end humanity if you also do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, for the sake of humanity, you probably shouldn't.
But, like, in the same way, I'm putting this question on you guys because it's like, it's, Yeah.
For the sake of humanity, you probably shouldn't have a nuke at all.
Like, no one should have a nuke.
Agreed.
But this is a hypothetical.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm like, you're probably not.
For the sake of humanity.
And is this where, like, you know, you're not a very religious guy, but like, is this where having some belief system is advantageous for being in positions of power?
Where you.
No.
Wait, wait.
I don't say no because I don't think it makes a difference because you see people and like Hegseth right now using.
Religion, biblical, um, yeah, and invasion.
So it's like, I don't think that's right, because you could also use that for whatever justification, which is what humans have done throughout history.
It's all about your own moral, yeah, yeah.
I guess, yeah, you're right.
You're also if you're religiously predisposed to pacifism, like if you're like a Quaker or some shit, and then anybody can kind of do whatever they want to, and now you're putting your people at a disadvantage.
That's the thing, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it is a tricky question, right?
It's like you want to defend your people, it's your job to defend your people, but at the same time, you'll.
Ending human, I don't know if I could end humanity, dude.
I don't know, that should be wack, dude.
That should be wack.
I mean, maybe there's part of you like, yo, maybe some of us make it out.
I mean, some probably would fall out, some probably would.
You kind of live in a bunker type, type, nuclear winter.
You post up, eat some protein bars.
How quick are you coming out that bunker?
What do you mean?
Like, let's say we made it to the bunker, nuclear holocaust.
We talked to other people in the bunkers and they're like, yo, you gotta stay down.
It's radioactive waste up there.
You can't go out there.
You're gonna be murked immediately if you're out there.
How long do you really believe you could be it?
Like, oh no, I still.
I'm gonna hold my breath, but I'm gonna go out.
I'm gonna put my head up, right?
I start eating humans before I go out there.
Or send a few motherfuckers out first.
No, there's gonna be fires and shit everywhere.
If you're not in the blast zone, then there might not be a ton of nuclear radiation, but there's gonna be fires.
It can be nuclear winter.
You can't grow any crops or anything.
So you might be like, walk around, but then it's chaos.
There's no infrastructure, no government.
So they're just bandits trying to steal all your shit.
But isn't there a part of you that's like, I need to be outside, bro.
I can't just look up through this fucking window.
You need to go outside for 15 minutes.
This is like New Yorkers.
Like, New Yorkers are like, yeah, bro, we gotta be outside.
That's white people shit.
That's white people shit.
Nah, black people gonna be outside.
No, we not.
Black people gonna be outside.
Y'all play with fucking wild animals and shit like that.
Y'all like that type of shit.
There's a nuclear bomb just went off.
If we're being honest, the majority of people playing with wild animals probably look more like you.
No, they grew up with them.
I'm just saying.
In the world, in the world, stop it.
The majority of people probably look more like you.
Nope.
I don't think so.
And y'all never left because you're like, there's no wild animals over there.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you were like, yo, what's Rome about?
What?
No wild animals?
I'm not going over there.
I don't think so.
To be honest, I don't think we play with them.
White people.
Hated wild animals the most.
That's why they went places where there's no wild animals.
And we domesticated the fuck out of those.
We made them not wild.
We unwilded them.
No, because y'all pay the most.
No.
Actually, y'all pay the most to go back to Africa to see these motherfucking wild animals in person.
It's like camping.
It's just camping.
It's like you don't do it forever.
Yeah, but y'all are forcing the black people to be around the white animals just so you could see them from a little.
We're not forcing them.
We're forcing them.
What do you mean?
Nah, you're forcing them.
What should we do?
Take them away from there?
We tried that.
That was.
Bad.
That was bad, is what I'm saying.
We got to keep them there.
We got to keep them, unless they want to leave, in which case they can apply for immigration.
But regardless, you got to keep them there.
It's their place.
It's their place.
It's technically their place.
I'm good.
And we could take the animals.
Why didn't we try that?
Why don't we just take the animals over?
Dude, that would have been a way better idea.
The rhinos?
I'm like, yo, give me the rhinos.
Nah, I just like shooting them for fun.
No, okay.
There is a.
What is that?
I don't know.
The big game shit?
Yeah, what is that?
I looked this up.
What's that?
Well, I.
It was, you, it was like it played.
It's no different than like the big game.
I don't know, but it's probably like porn where like you kill enough deer, you're like, I need to kill some real shit.
But like, I think it does play into like primal urges, right?
Like, you know, camping or being out in the nature, hunting your own food.
Like, you must get some sort of like a dopamine response.
No, hunting is fire.
Hunting is cool.
Fishing, getting a deer or some shit.
Yeah, but like that one out there, finding a lion that's running around, a big old lion, that's oh, it's endangered.
No, this is the porn thing.
It's like you desensitize to the deer.
So now you need a lady lion.
Hey!
A lady lion.
But eventually you get tired of fucking deer, the boars, and all that shit.
You're going to want to step it up.
You want a lady boar?
Yo.
Hunting boars is whack.
A lady boar.
Lady boar.
Keep your boy Rogan out of Africa, bro.
Lady boar.
Lady boar.
Keep Rogan out of Africa.
Why?
He's going to hunting?
Nah, I'm just saying.
That's going to be his next step.
Now he doesn't even use guns.
He just fucking bows and arrows.
Eventually he's going to get bored with that shit.
I respect the bow and arrow.
That's way more impressive than a gun.
That's way more impressive.
It's more impressive, but once he gets bored with that, then what?
Then you just go down.
You can make the delta bigger here.
Hunt an elk.
Hunt an elk with a Swiss arm.
Knife.
Swiss arm.
Ooh, doubt.
Fork.
Corkscrew.
Is anybody who says that now?
What's that?
Is there any person online that hunts animals with a knife?
Fork.
No, with a knife.
That's funny.
With a fork is so good.
Skip a step.
Fork is crazy.
No, there gotta be.
Sponsors Pull Out Of The Festival00:08:49
Yeah.
I mean, you see people do it with.
Like, that shit would be fire.
You see people do it with a fish.
They'll like spear.
You ever seen that?
They'll basically take like a spear and they'll throw a fish, it's kind of easy.
But an animal that can kind of fight back.
That's some ballsy shit.
White people do that.
People bore hook with knives.
I've seen that.
Yeah.
I don't, the bore thing doesn't impress me at all.
No, they don't.
They're scary.
They're scary, but like, to me, it's just like, what are we doing?
They're built like play?
No, they're more sturdy than that.
You didn't deserve that.
You didn't deserve that.
You said they're billing me.
Yeah, I said that.
That's fire.
They're strong as shit.
Okay.
Yeah, let's go.
Turn it into a compliment.
I appreciate it.
You want a bore.
So hold on.
Rewind a little.
Oh, oh, loud.
No, this makes me sad.
Damn, they just murdered him.
No, murdered him.
Rewind a little bit though.
It's kind of crazy that they catch them and they make them do a wheelbarrow so you get the dog on them.
The dog.
Yeah, if the dog got them first, that don't count.
Like they do like a wife carry.
You seen that competition?
Damn, that's how you carry your wife, bro.
You haven't seen the wife carry competition?
Oh, I saw that at the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
They were doing that.
Wait.
You know, we shoot.
We try.
I don't know.
That seems like something you do.
There was something else.
This shit.
No, I missed it.
This shit right here.
That's how they're carrying that hog.
You never seen these?
Damn, the back of their neck just smells like fish.
They do an obstacle course, but they're growing over them shoulders.
Oh, nah, he's cheating.
Why he's doing the.
No, it's actually harder.
There's any way that you can get your wife across the line.
This is the easier way.
Oh!
Splashing them with shit.
Nah, this is crazy.
Yo, you see?
White people's shit.
Like, why?
Not a black insight.
This right here, this right here, let me tell you something.
That's white power.
That is white power.
Well, keep the power because that shit is lame as fuck.
Once you guys get it, you're going to start doing shit just like this.
When you don't have to think about getting power, you can think of these crazy games.
Like, what if I just held my wife upside down and we ran around?
It's pure boredom from just being in power for centuries, thousands of years.
Yeah.
Also, there's a fair amount, like, you could fall on purpose if your wife's been annoyed.
You could bounce her up and down.
You know what I mean?
Make her happy.
Wow, that was dark.
You're an evil guy.
That was dark, bro.
You're an evil guy.
Wives of God went there as great.
You don't even got a girl yet.
That's crazy.
You're an evil guy, Miles.
The fact that you could even fake that.
Your wife, who trusts you, might not have a wife.
So, yeah.
That's a good point.
Go to Saudi Arabia with that shit.
Damn.
Damn.
He's so political.
Oh, shit.
That's a.
Yeah, that's a black guy.
There's what?
Al?
That's an Obama.
What do you mean?
He's close to.
Yeah, I might complain.
Yo, look, they got one.
See, like, what?
Al just admitted that Obama is close to white.
Y'all let that go.
Yeah, he is.
I think he's closer to white than he is to black.
And why do you think that?
Why do you think that?
I think he has more white in him.
Honey, he was raised by his mother.
Yeah.
You know, he's raised white.
In Hawaii?
Haoli or whatever the fuck you have to say.
It might be a Haoli, bro.
Nah, let me not.
I take that back.
I still like O. Wait, would you not like him if he was white?
Y'all have your days at the top, bro.
You have white fatigue.
What is this white animosity that we're feeling?
Nah, I love white people.
Well, you wear a Harley Davidson shirt.
It's Godspeed.
Oh, yeah, it's Godspeed.
It's Godspeed.
Nah, I love the whites.
It's just we having fun.
We having fun.
We can't have fun.
Yo, did you know that not to make things very political?
Yeah.
But did you know that Kanye, I don't even think, is going to be allowed to go to the UK?
Yeah, I think he got banned officially today.
Yeah, he was supposed to headline wireless for three nights.
And now they canceled wireless.
Canceled the whole festival.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Because a lot of the sponsors were pulling out because Ye was going to perform.
And now Ye's pulling out.
So now they lost their sponsors.
Well, I don't think Ye pulled out.
I think the country, the sponsors pulled out.
Right.
And then the government blocked also.
Yeah.
And yeah.
Without the sponsors, they were still going to do it.
But the sponsors said the anti Semitism, they couldn't co sign.
Yeah.
One of the sponsors was PayPal, which is a.
Keep going.
Keep going.
That's a fact.
That's just a data point.
But just keep going.
Why would you bring that sponsor up specifically?
Because it's one of the sponsors that pulled out.
What are you implying?
I don't know.
I'm just trying to ask what your brain is doing.
You're being kind of pussy right now.
I'm just saying that's one of the sponsors.
It was PayPal.
And PayPal said, we're not going to condone this.
And what else is PayPal doing?
Why are you stopping pussy, bro?
I don't know what you guys are wanting me to say right now.
I'm just putting that out there.
Why'd you point out PayPal, not any of the other sponsors?
What sponsors are you?
Diageo?
I never heard that one.
What is Yashi?
It's a beverage leader.
And PayPal.
Pepsi?
You didn't bring that one up?
Yeah, I didn't know Pepsi.
I didn't know that these ones.
I just heard about PayPal.
So I don't want to hurt them.
But yeah, the wireless is canceled.
But you saw the concert in SoFi, right?
That shit looked fire, I ain't going to lie.
She looked fire.
That shit looked fire.
I wouldn't have gone, but it looked fire.
It looked fire.
Being there must have been crazy.
Yeah.
Right.
Which you wouldn't have supported him?
No, I wouldn't have gone.
You can't support anti Semites.
You can't.
But if you were there, that shit would be can't do it.
Crazy.
Can't support a guy who sold a swastika shirt.
That's crazy.
I don't even think Hillary sold them.
Yeah.
He said, he said, he was like handing them out.
He said, he was profiting off of them.
Yeah.
And he said slavery was a choice.
Can't support a guy like that.
Well, white people chose it.
White people's choice.
Which is bad.
I agree.
Maybe that's what he meant.
We shouldn't have chosen it.
Maybe all this time we took him out of context.
Banger joke, we shouldn't have chosen to do that.
That's all that he needed to clarify.
Yeah, it was a choice by some really bad people, bad people, some bad actors.
Yeah, yo, he could turn that around right now.
He might be able to walk back that one.
He could walk back that one.
Yeah, fantastic.
Yeah, yeah, like whoa, if you saw that in person, it's fire if you did, but you wouldn't obviously because no, but it was crazy because they were live streaming it in black and white, and I don't get it because, like, you want pictures of the color one, yeah, you saw pictures, yeah.
How good were the pictures?
It was great.
Well, PayPal didn't support it.
Really?
Yeah, they weren't one of the sponsors.
Why weren't they one of the sponsors?
Yeah.
Of this?
Why can't you be a sponsor for a private concert where you sell tickets?
That makes no fucking sense, dumbasses.
I mean, they sell tickets to the fuck.
Damn it.
What's the best thing?
You gotta snap to get your brain to work.
I know.
And it still didn't.
Like, it's a shade TV.
Come on, motherfucker.
Come on, start, start.
Fucking festival shit, UK, something.
Damn, bro.
Damn, that shit looked good.
That shit looked good.
Trying to get your Godspeed to start.
It's not starting.
Come on.
It did look good.
Did you guys watch the whole thing?
I didn't.
I just saw clips.
I saw clips pop up without me even looking into it online.
I didn't even click on the clips.
They just came up in my feed.
This was in LA, which is crazy.
He sold out two SoFi stadiums, 80,000 people.
I think this is the best stage probably all time.
Nah, Taylor Swift.
Nah, come on.
Taylor Swift was crazy.
Bro, like, look at this.
At the end of the day, he's just on a ball.
Right?
Like at the end of the day, it's nice when you just see the clips of it, but you don't think two hours later, you're like, I get it, you're on a ball?
No.
But Taylor's on his whole time.
Fascinating.
That's cute.
Taylor is swimming.
Everyone's on different shapes.
She's swimming at one point in time.
Okay, well, she jumps into the water.
You see her swimming, outfit change, mid swim, pop out the other side.
Look at this swim.
Oh, she's swimming.
And she's swimming.
Kanye ain't got this.
I didn't know this happened.
This is actually kind of cool.
Yeah, this is sick.
This is kind of cool.
I'll give it to him.
She's going to pop out the other side.
Different outfit.
That's fire.
Yeah, that's kind of dope.
And that's just one little piece.
And you see why Kanye tried to suppress her success.
Of course he did.
He knew.
Getting A Money Back Guarantee00:03:30
Yeah.
He knew.
He saw an unstoppable force.
And then he's kind of biting Taylor because I think they use the same technology.
Hey, hey, hey, Al, speak on it.
Yeah.
I don't support anti Semites.
Neither do I.
No.
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Picking The Winning Song Choice00:03:48
Now, We get back to the show.
I do need to tell while we're talking about hymns and being him, my calci streak has continued.
I just want to let you know, I am so far undefeated on calci.
I try to you know share my picks with the people, but what's the streak?
I have not lost yet trading on calci.
I just picked Michigan, I won again.
Wait, so what are your picks so far?
You did Michigan, what else?
Bad money.
You voted on bad money.
No, I picked the first song of the super bowl halftime show.
It's pretty down.
What song was it?
And then what was it?
I forgot it already.
Two for two.
Two for two.
I'm three for three.
What was the other one?
What was it?
Oscars.
Oh, the Oscars, obviously.
Pick Michael B. Jordan.
Damn.
Wow.
My point is Race Trader.
I did.
I care about greatness.
That's one thing about me.
I care about greatness.
I appreciate it.
So, but no, I'm just telling you.
And a lot of people have asked me, like, how do I know?
You just pick the winner.
It's not that difficult.
Like, there's multiple choices.
You pick the winning one and then you win.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know why that's difficult for some people.
Like, there are people that lose for some reason.
Well, I guess, like, with this, for example, I don't know who's going to win.
Like, UConn or Michigan.
Well, it's already happened.
So you do know who won.
Are you?
Yes, he is.
Well, I didn't know before.
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't know before.
Yes, he is.
How do you know who's going to win before it happens?
You're making it seem very simple.
I mean, I guess you could, like, check the line and be like, oh, most people think Michigan's going to win.
No, Mark, you just pick the winner.
You pick the winner of it.
Like, There's one, listen how things work.
There's a winner and a loser.
Okay.
Right?
You pick the winner and then you win.
Simple.
So, what I do is I pick the winner.
I can't believe it's even a real thing.
I don't even, I can't believe this even exists.
So, what I do is that I'll look at the trades and I'll be like, oh, that's the winner.
And then I pick that one.
And so far, I haven't lost because I'm just picking the winning trade.
Okay.
You get it now.
I think I'm getting it.
Do you understand it?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, for example, this one, Michigan has 100% chance to win.
Well, yeah.
Yeah, they won already.
All right.
But I picked Michigan even before they won because that was the winner.
Oh, okay.
Same reason why I picked Tite Me Brumpo.
I picked that one because I was like, oh, that's the winning.
So that's the first song.
That's the one that's going to win.
So I just pick the winners and then I tell people.
That's the time that I bet on Izzy when he was fighting Pereira in the one with the bow and arrow.
Yeah.
This is the first time I've ever made a prediction.
Yeah.
That I said he was going to win by knockout and win by decision.
So you just hedged your bet.
So you made two different trades, you're saying?
I don't know exactly what I did on the other one.
One and it canceled out.
And so he just broke even.
Exactly.
I gave them money.
I gave them like, I think, 10 bucks or something like that.
So I won the knockout one.
Yeah.
But then I lost on the decision one.
And then I gave them money.
So you see what you did wrong there?
Yeah, I picked the winner, but I also picked the wrong thing.
You've got to only pick the winner.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, if you just pick the winner, then you'll win.
But I picked the winner twice.
I guess if you go twice, then it doesn't count.
No, you didn't pick the winner because he didn't win by decision.
He won by knockout.
So you picked the lose.
Yeah, you also picked the loser.
Oh, shit.
Don't do that.
So only pick one.
Or never pick the winner.
Why is this that difficult?
You're usually smart as hell.
This is why this exists because there's people like Mark out there that will pick the losing one.
Hmm.
Like, there were people I'm sure that picked Yukon.
That was the losing one.
Guys, at home, please pick the winner.
Just pick the winner one.
Losing On The Decision Round00:15:46
This is very simple.
And only the winner.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, you can bring up anything and I'll tell you what the winner will be because I'll just go, oh, that's the winner.
And then I'll pick it.
Iran.
I don't do politics, guys.
No politics.
All right.
What about Tesla delivers in Q1 of 2026?
What is it?
What are the options?
Well, obviously, it's 34,000.
Wait, is that 340,000?
340,000?
340,000.
340,000 or 35.
How many cars do you think they're going to deliver?
350,000.
I can't read numbers.
I need to research this a little bit more.
I don't want to mess up my streak on this right now, but if I research it a little bit more, I'll just tell you which one is the winner.
Is Bitcoin going to hit?
When will Bitcoin cross 100K again?
In the future.
Good winner.
Is there a market for it in the future?
Yeah, if that's the winner.
If then in the future, it probably.
Can you predict that?
Is that an option?
Before October?
This October?
Yeah.
What is it at right now?
21%.
No, no.
How much is Bitcoin right now?
I think it's like 68, something like 69.
Nah.
Nope.
All right.
Guys, that's the winner.
That's the winner.
We get to check back in October.
That'll be fun.
Yeah, we'll check back.
Sheld said it.
Anyway, can we get back to the show, please?
Yeah.
There's a story on the internet that has consumed Americans, maybe even Canadians.
Wait a minute.
Where are you going with this?
I'm just saying.
Uh oh.
It is a pretty big story.
I. Know nothing about it.
Al kind of knows a little bit about it.
I know nothing about it.
You know nothing about it.
Yeah.
Luckily, we have an expert at the office.
Oh, okay.
That can break this story down.
Oh, yes.
The story revolves around a reality show called Summer House.
Best show on television right now.
Al claims is the best show on television.
It's a reality show that takes place in the Hamptons.
And I think some like people in their, I don't know, 20s, 30s, they go there and they live the summer in the Hamptons.
And then.
Yep.
Shenanigans ensue.
I've never seen an episode, but our good friend Alex.
There's some real drama about it.
And then our good friend White Alex is going to come on to the pod and she is going to break down this unbelievable saga.
Give it up for White Alex, everybody.
Let's go, Michigan.
No, my mic is not on.
You got to turn that on.
Oh, we got to get your mic on.
I don't know how to do it.
Oh, okay.
And she's with us.
Art, do you have her?
Yep.
Yeah, right.
She's back.
We got White Alex.
What's up, White Alex?
White Alex.
Bram, Bram, Bram.
Hold on.
You could not have set this up worse.
Just an hour and a half of race talk.
Yeah.
What am I coming into?
Why?
Is there like a racial dynamic in this drama?
Yes, actually.
Wait, really?
No way.
Yes.
Okay, so we're perfectly situated to talk about it.
So I'm going to say, go blue, go blue, go blue.
Say it back.
Go blue.
We said it.
Go blue.
Go blue.
Michigan wants to.
Wait, are we talking about blue square or what blue are we talking about?
She says the same thing.
Michigan.
She said Michigan and blue square is actually the same.
Oh, okay.
I'm actually kind of true.
That is true.
All the Jews from New York that don't get into Ivy League schools end up going to Michigan.
That's true.
Feels pointed, but.
I'm in both diasporas, too.
Are you going to sit down or are you going to stand up?
Well, what do you want?
I have this.
So that you're framed up in the camera, but then I also would like you to reference this whenever you want.
Okay, and I also have these for you guys.
So you can really understand.
Someone said this is the Epstein files for women.
It really is.
Because it keeps going.
Can you give us a quick backdrop of what this show is?
Yes.
Teach these idiots you called into AM mornings.
I'm so, I have too much knowledge.
I have to, you know, step out of this.
We had a warm up.
Teach these idiots, you know.
Okay.
I have my pointer.
Basically, you don't know anything about the show at all.
I, if I'm being honest with you, and I think I told you this yesterday, I thought Summer House was the show that Barstool did with the chicken leg girl.
No.
And then the other people.
No.
There's a girl with a chicken leg that works at Barstool.
No, she's like a barstool fry.
She will come up in this story as well.
She's always involved in this?
No, no.
She's just involved in the drama with Port Noy.
But that's like chapter 50.
You gotta start at number one.
Start us in the beginning.
What is the show?
Summer House is a Bravo show.
Okay.
You're familiar with Bravo.
Of course.
You have watched.
Andy Cohen, The GOAT.
Andy Cohen, The GOAT.
Every Housewife show.
Traders.
Yes.
Traders.
Traders.
Sierra was actually on Traders.
Used to be The Kardashians.
No, Kardashians was E. All right.
But he was involved in E, wasn't he?
Andy Cohen?
Maybe like early, early.
But Bravo NBC has been like its own thing.
Okay.
It's own thing.
Now on Peacock.
Now on Peacock.
Just a walking advertisement.
Promoting.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's a show where these people live in New York, technically have jobs like Monday through Thursday, but now it's kind of become like more influencers.
Like it's not true, like working people, I would say.
They have a shore house in Hampton.
So they drive out there on Fridays.
They party all weekend.
They drive back on Sunday.
They have like planned parties.
They go out to the bars out there.
You guys know about the bars out there.
I know less about that.
Basically, they just go and they started 10 years ago.
It's kind of closest to like real world or whatever Theo was on, whatever.
Road rules.
But real world would probably be this because this is the house.
Before my time.
Yes.
I'm telling you, this is my real world.
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
So, Kyle.
Can I ask one question?
These are not married couples and they're not even couples in many.
This is their marriage.
Come on.
But the show and its ethos, where it's not a friend group.
Yeah, no, it's just a friend group.
Okay.
It's just a friend group.
It started with this couple, Kyle.
No, Kyle and Amanda.
Carl and Lindsay.
Carl.
Carl and Lindsay had a big breakup of their engagement like three years ago.
Okay.
Yeah.
But now they're friends.
Got it.
And is there a point to the show?
Do you win?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
There's no game.
There's no like love goal.
Like you're not like going to find a person.
Just people living.
Drama.
Drama, fighting.
Like they throw fun parties where they dress up.
Hookups, maybe.
There's hookups.
That's the bread and butter.
Is the hookups, is the like.
Single people in the city, 30 year old media.
How popular is this show compared to like real housewives of Orange County or Salt Lake City or Beverly?
Salt Lake is very powerful the last couple of years.
I'd say Salt Lake's like the king.
Okay.
But Summer House is unique and my favorite because it's the only one where you have girls' girl behavior.
Like housewives, it's mostly just like ladies screwing each other over.
This is like 30 year olds, like being real people, kind of.
Oh, so they're not leaning into the archetypes as much?
No.
Housewives is usually like pretty like.
Throwing wine at each other.
Yeah, we're here to cause drama.
Yes.
And we're getting emotionally unstable people that don't really do a lot of self reflection.
These are like Therapies 30 somethings who are influencers.
Like, that's interesting to me.
Because they're also looking at their career in terms of, like, I don't want to be known as a crash out.
I want to be.
Exactly.
You might remember Paige DeSorbo and Hannah Burner came from.
We know Hannah is a comedian and then Paige is her podcast co host.
Yes.
Giggly Squad.
They were on the show.
They were on the show.
They start Giggly Squad together.
That's how they got their followings.
And Giggly Squad Bravo was like, you can't talk about Bravo.
Like, just make another podcast.
Meanwhile, best decision for them.
Ever in the world.
Because now they're not.
Because now they tore Giggly Squad and Paige is laughing all the way to the bay.
I did not know about them in terms of that show.
I only knew about them as comedians in this podcast.
They're the PRs.
Yeah.
And they're also funny and charming and amazing.
Like, Paige is so cool.
So they come from Summer House.
So it's a launching pad for a program.
It's a launching pad.
Okay.
We're going to talk about you getting me on Summer House after this.
Okay.
Okay.
Just saying.
We got this.
We got this.
Okay.
All right.
So what's the drama?
The drama.
Okay.
Kyle is an OG.
He's been there for 10 years.
Damn.
She, Amanda, Comes on season one as like a girl that's sleeping with Kyle.
By season two, she joins the show as a cast member as Kyle's girlfriend.
They've been together since then.
They get married in 2021.
So, this I actually have some markers.
This is, I love it, a married couple.
Yeah.
Got it.
Okay.
Okay.
So their marriage, like they shouldn't have got married.
Like he was cheating before they get engaged.
He stays out really late.
She likes to stay in and smoke weed.
That's like her vibe.
Also, Paige, they were like the bed bugs.
They don't like to go out.
But Kyle is like staying out with fans, like comes home at 6 30 a.m.
Like that's kind of his vibe.
He's a DJ.
Oh, he's a DJ?
Yeah.
He wasn't always.
He just became a DJ in the last couple months because he's in like strife.
Financially, with his failing alcohol seltzer company.
What's the seltzer company?
It's called Lover Boy.
He's actually using this all to like promote it.
Fire.
So, okay, they were married.
What we're seeing on this season that they filmed in summer 2025.
So, like, we know things have happened since then, but we're still watching what's going on.
And now we're like early August.
Their marriage falling apart.
He's getting so drunk.
He's yelling at her.
He's saying, fuck you at parties.
He's being like, why are you skinny dipping with everyone?
Meanwhile, they've all been.
She's skinny dipping with other guys.
They've all been in this friend group forever, and they do skinny dip at the end of every season.
Gotta be crazy.
Fourth of July this year, she just jumped in the pool in her bra and underwear, and he's like tweaking about it with other guys.
Yes, yes, but everyone's clothes.
She's just in a bra and underwear.
It's not even skinny dipping.
Is he a see through?
It's not the most conservative.
With all due respect, he looks embarrassing, yeah, like policing what she can do.
Meanwhile, he's just really tight that they are like bitter and hate each other.
And it's like, you know, when the Your girlfriend likes to hate you, and you know, it's like time to we're married, we don't know anything about this.
Yeah, there's no hate at all coming towards you.
But the couple that met on the reality show is not doesn't have a stable marriage.
Well, they kind of met outside of the reality show, but yes, she's very insecure.
You can tell she's never really been with anyone else.
Oh, and her friend Sierra is hyping her up to leave Kyle.
That's what we're watching.
Sierra got it.
So let's go back to Sierra and West and how we meet them.
Okay, Sierra joins the show in like 2020 and just.
Since then, she has been a girl's girl.
Like, she enters the show because she's hooking up with this guy.
She gets to the house.
Hannah Burner's like freaking out.
She used to hook up with this guy.
She doesn't like that he's bringing a new girl, Sierra.
Meanwhile, honestly, Hannah was like kind of in the wrong.
Like, Hannah was being crazy.
It was totally fine.
But Sierra's just like, I'm going to ride for my girls.
If a girl is uncomfortable, I'll find another guy.
That's sort of her ethos in the house.
She's also, I don't know if you can tell, fucking stunning.
Smoke show.
Yeah, I liked her on Traders.
Very beautiful.
So she's funny on Traders.
Yeah, she was very good.
I'll kill all you traders.
Yeah, she said that.
But anyway, Sierra.
Is a girl's girl.
And this summer, she's hyping up Amanda to leave Kyle.
And she also fucking hates Kyle.
They're like best friends.
They've known each other for how long?
Six years.
Yeah, six years.
Best friends, six years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of times.
She's on camera telling another, she's on camera interfering with another person's marriage.
Not necessarily interfering.
It's like, interfering.
You're in a friend group and one of your boys is like getting drunk and yelling at his wife in front of everyone.
Yeah.
Not good.
Not good behavior.
Great.
Yeah.
And Sierra's kind of like, you don't need to be with him.
Have you ever tried being single?
It's awesome.
Like, that's kind of where she's at.
She's recommending separation right now, where we are in the.
What is it?
So is West.
Any recommendation of therapy or anything like that to work through their troubles?
Yeah.
Didn't they take a vow before God?
They did take a vow before God to death to us, part of it.
It feels like we're caught up with single friends.
Yes.
Because single friends, oftentimes they're bitter of your, you know, loving relationships you're in.
This is not a loving relationship.
Also, Amanda's like talking, like, in her confessionals right now, being like, fuck, I didn't sign a prenup.
Like, that's where we're at with it because he's talking about his like financial troubles.
He's like 500 grand in deep.
Oh, so she's gonna take that debt on, yeah.
She's kind of like, Why am I with this?
Yeah, we didn't, we didn't, you don't think about that.
That's something to think about.
Wait, so this is a very important point.
He gets a personal business loan without asking her to float like three more months of payroll of his dumb alcoholic shelter company.
Lover boy, people want to buy that.
So, if your girlfriend or your wife has like medical debt from like nursing school.
Uh huh.
Sounds like your problem.
No, that's not me.
Well, were you guys married prior to her going to nursing school?
Yes.
No.
Yes, you were.
No, midwifery school.
We were married after.
Midwifery school.
Yes.
They have school for that?
That's sick.
What'd you think of more?
I'm at school in midwifery.
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, you get a bird.
It's all right.
So that's okay.
This is something for you to consider.
Let me text someone.
Yeah.
Just send a little text out there.
Yeah.
But anyway, prenups are good.
All this is saying, we're past that.
She's interfering with their marriage.
She's not interfering.
She's being a friend.
She's being a good bestie.
Friend.
Meanwhile, let's go back to Sierra.
She joins the show and she's like, I'm smart, beautiful, amazing.
Yes, I'm single.
I like to date, but I'm also like dating intentionally.
I want a man to kind of like be a man.
She's like, I want a better marriage than my parents had.
I don't have a good relationship with my father.
So she's a great self actualized human being.
I can root for her.
Absolutely.
She gets a lot of shit because she only hooks up with white guys.
Not exactly.
That'll come back later.
I think that Al's probably more sensitive to this criticism like that.
That might be a little bit more clarity.
You know, I tried to bring that up on AM mornings and it was quite difficult.
Really?
Yeah.
Have you gotten shit in the past for only hooking up with white women?
I don't know.
Have I?
I would never.
No, no, no.
Have I?
I would never give you shit.
I think love is love.
Oh, okay.
I'm a believer in that.
Yep.
Yeah.
But I'm glad that you finally acknowledged that your wife is white.
No, she's not.
That's a thing.
Taking us 10 years together.
That's a thing.
But I'm really glad that you found that.
This is gross.
Yeah.
Snapping out.
Snapping out.
Yeah.
Okay.
She's Latin.
So, Sierra.
So, Sierra, she comes into the house.
Just let me ask one question.
So, is Sierra getting criticized for only hooking up with white guys while she lives in the Hamptons?
Yes.
Got it.
Yeah.
It's not the only hooking up with white guys.
It's the like getting played by white guys.
But that'll come later.
Basically, West is like, I'll be, he shows up a couple seasons later.
Yeah.
His name is Wes or West?
Wes.
Wes.
With a T or.
Short for, I think, Westling, which sounds like you're saying Westling.
Like wrestling?
Is there a T?
West, Kanye West.
The direction.
Yes, the direction.
The direction and the anti Semitic performer.
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
So he joins the show and he's obviously like, this is the bombshell of the villa.
I'm going to get close to her.
They're like friends, friends, friends.
He wears her down.
What does that mean?
Wears her down.
That feels loaded.
But you know when he tries to, you know, the gay baiting type of situation?
Did he LARP as gay to get into her good graces?
He's just kind of gay.
Like that's kind of his vibe.
Like he is like a swagged out white boy who writes for Complex.
You know what I mean?
He's like kind of like fruity with it, I think.
I think that's how he's kind of pulling all this off.
Interesting.
That works.
I feel like that avenue works.
I've been asking the gays about this.
What did the gays say?
I'm just like, yo, you guys, you guys, you guys fucking fought for this, dude.
You guys lost lives for this.
And then now that it's cool, you're seeing all these straight guys LARP as gay to be like an ally.
My culture is not your costume.
My culture is not your costume.
It is an interesting thing that's happening.
And I think that they're being very excited.
Accepting of it.
I think you're totally right.
And it's only underlined by Heated R's popularity among straight women.
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Heated R means rivalry.
Different.
Yeah.
Hard R.
Yeah.
Heated R.
Yeah.
Heated R. Sorry.
Yeah.
That's a Freudian slip.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go on.
So he kind of wears her down and he's like, I like you.
I like you.
And then he just clowns her.
He's like, I can't be exclusive with you.
He takes her to.
After hooking up?
After hooking up and after taking her to meet his family.
Oh.
Yeah.
Like he just kind of wants whatever he can't.
Have.
And also, something interesting, he's joining the show after all this.
The show airs, he gets a ton of followers.
He gets a ton of bad bitches hitting him up.
That's a big thing about this show the dudes just like, they blow.
Going to fucking, you know, what's that bar in Montauk?
Side, not Side Talk.
Down in Amagansett or in Montauk?
In Montauk.
Like the facey facey one.
Surf Lodge.
Surf Lodge.
They're at Surf Lodge and they love it.
He's like, wait, why did I like pick Sierra too soon?
That's kind of the vibe.
Oh.
Like I have, the world is my oyster now.
I'm Famous, she's beautiful, but now I got all these other beautiful girls.
Absolutely, and remember, she's like kind of serious.
Yeah, she's in her late 20s, and she's like, I would love someone to love me and not be a clown.
He's a clown, he makes a couple other mistakes after his first and second season.
He's doing like a press tour, he just thinks, Everyone wants to hear what I have to say.
He does like a New York Times thing where he's like, I would never date Sierra.
That's how you have to utilize this, yeah, absolutely.
But you don't have to say, I would never date Sierra.
He's a sports journalist, got it.
That's kind of how he met.
Portnoy, like in the space, like there was talks of a Barstool podcast, but he works traditionally for Complex.
Writing about sports, don't know anything about that, except Michigan basketball, go blue.
Anyway, they used to hook up.
This season, what we're watching is their marriage breakup and West kind of feeling like, oh shit, I fucked up with Sierra.
I should get close to her again.
Like that's kind of, they're at afters.
He's like sitting in her lap, he's getting really drunk, and he's like touching her arm and being like, yeah, I would kiss Sierra again.
He's like, Kind of, so we're watching these two things happen at once.
So she absolutely destroys their marriage.
And then he wants to rekindle the flame with Sierra.
Yes, I'm not going to let you say that, that she's just going to be a little bit more.
I haven't watched the show.
I'm just going off of your explanation.
So this is all on you.
Absolutely.
I'll turn this around.
So that's what we're watching.
And at the same time, West, another guy in the house, Jesse, he's kind of like a B plot to all this.
He asks West, hey, Sierra and I have been flirting like, Could I?
Could I crack?
Could I?
Whoa.
Could I kiss her?
And.
Wes says no.
Wes says no.
Fuck you for even asking me that.
So he's cock blogging, but doesn't want to claim him.
Yeah.
But what we're watching right now in mid August is like we're headed towards maybe them rekindling.
They're in the house together.
Can I just ask a real quick question?
They're in the house together?
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
That might be weird.
Even like someone getting after your old work in the house with you.
You're going to love where this goes.
Yeah.
Wait till here.
Sierra's also like offended by Jesse asking that.
She was like, why are you asking him if he can.
Have sex with me.
Why don't you just ask me on a date and then we'll handle Wes's shit?
Doesn't she believe in girl code and like, didn't she not hook up with Hannah's guy because of that same exact reason?
Yeah, absolutely.
She does not hook up with Jesse.
She's like, you're fucking stupid for asking this.
I'm hot and beautiful and charming and a fun vibe.
Everyone knows that.
It's your fault for like falling for me a little bit, which I kind of respect.
Okay.
Like she's like, just because we vibe doesn't mean I'm like gonna have sex with you, which.
But he didn't expect it.
He was just asking.
Yeah, but Jesse's also like kind of a slut.
Like by Wes tells him no one week and the next week he's like making out with a girl while she's like peeing.
And it's like, oh my God, you're gross.
Anyway, that's fire.
Yeah, that's pretty kind of cool.
I don't know if you see a video, but she's peeing.
You just like see it off camera, like she's in the bathroom.
He's like, while you're peeing.
And then we're looking at their empty room, but we hear them in the bathroom.
Oh, wow.
It's crazy.
Never tried that one.
The show is good.
Anyway, now what we've heard like a couple of weeks ago, rumors.
Oh, also, I should mention they separate in January of 2026.
So we know what we're watching is two people heading towards divorce, which has been dark.
And Amanda's been like America's sweetheart.
What's happening here is not on the television show.
This is just happening online.
No, this is everything I've described is happening on a television show.
We're about to get into what's happening online.
So the season ends, and like they're still married, and we don't know what's happening.
They're still married, but like still hate each other.
We know they're going to separate in January, but like cameras are off.
They're just people.
So the season we're about to watch currently watching.
Oh, the scene that's currently on.
Yes.
Six months old.
Episodes airing from the past summer.
From the past summer, yes.
Ah, so it's almost Kardashian esque where like something happens in the real world, and then we got to watch through.
Oh, and that's Andy Cohen's genius, it's like it's The power's in the edit.
Yes.
And so they're watching this real time and they're all going to go to a reunion in a while.
Oh!
Like, that's the thing to watch.
That's bigger than the fucking.
Okay, okay, okay.
What's happened off TV?
So they separate.
And then a couple weeks ago.
Do they have kids?
No.
Thank God.
Thank fucking God.
They were together 10 years, no kids?
10 years, no kid, married since 2021.
But like, he's not ready to be a dad.
Like, no way.
He's like, you smoke too much weed.
And she's like, you stay out with teeny bopper fans.
Like, it's like cringe.
Okay.
I don't think Kyle's a good guy, if you can tell.
Basically, now rumors surface that these two are kissing.
I mean, she's got to feel so insecure, right?
She's coming off of a 10 year relationship and destruction of her marriage.
And Wes, this season is like sticking up to Kyle.
He's being like, don't yell at your wife in front of us, you fucking asshole.
Like, Amanda's a great girl who we all respect.
We like that.
We like that.
We like men stepping in with abusive relationships and protecting women.
Yes, we do.
So Wes is kind of a hero.
Boom.
Yeah, but Wes was trying to crack.
And when he, Started to is unclear.
Let me ask you this question.
Was Wes trying to crack, or was Amanda in a situation where she was like any woman would be?
Wow, you putting out the woman is crazy.
She's asking a question.
No, she's in a situation where any woman would be where she's incredibly insecure after seeing like her foundation, her rock, her support system completely fall apart.
She's incredibly insecure.
The DJ, as you said, which is very important, she's a homebody.
She wants somebody to create the vibes for her.
Yeah, exactly.
That's no longer there.
And she's incredibly vulnerable.
Maybe you could say Wes took advantage of that.
She's incredibly.
Totally.
Or maybe she just hooked up with the easiest option, someone she knew that wouldn't say no.
Maybe she took advantage of.
Yeah.
Maybe she took advantage of Wes.
Again, I don't want to show.
I'm just saying, I'm throwing something out there.
You're onto something with the first half of that thought and that she was vulnerable and she's never been alone.
But that does not mean that you hook up with your friend's ex who you comforted them about.
That is just breaking girl code.
Like, you cannot do that.
And remember, Sierra is a girl's girl.
She would never even look at Kyle.
She's like kind of rude to him, honestly.
But she would never look at Jesse.
No, she wouldn't.
She said, I don't want to hook up with you.
No.
From what you said, she would have done it.
She said, Why don't you ask me out on a date?
Why are you asking him first?
Well, she was like, We could, like, you're just not even.
You're not even entering the chat in the way that you think you are.
You know what I mean?
Jesse thought, like, Oh, she'd be so excited to just fuck me right now.
And she's like, Be fucking for real.
Okay, fair enough.
Have you ever taken a woman on a date?
Ever?
Like, I'm a woman.
She also just, like, a plot line of hers.
She bought her grandparents' house with her own money.
She's like, Really cool.
Yeah.
But.
Yes.
So she breaks the girl code, but then he also breaks the guy.
She does not break the girl code.
No, the other one, the other one.
Oh, Amanda?
Yes.
Yes.
So they start hooking up, like we think rumored.
We don't know when it starts.
We're also like, we're going crazy.
This is last week.
I don't know if you guys could tell.
I was very distracted.
Yeah.
And then she and him matching black screen, Instagram story, white text, exact same thing, PR firm ass thing.
They're saying they're announcing their special connection, not a relationship, because he's incapable of relationships.
Like, girl, you're getting someone who we know can't.
Oh, commit.
She, they are announcing that they are fucking.
They're fucking, but nothing more.
Pretty much.
Although she's, what we can all presume, hiding in his apartment.
What guy, this guy?
I don't know.
It's.
He's housing a homeless woman?
He's housing a homeless woman that's dealing with a traumatic breakup, not only with her friend.
From an abusive bad guy.
From an abusive bad guy and a breakup from her friend, right?
She's no longer with her friend.
Because she decided to screw over her friend.
Well, we don't know why.
Well, don't do that.
Why is she screwing her friend?
She's not dating West.
West is telling other people in the house, you can't hook up with Sierra.
Isn't Sierra getting that same, like, shouldn't she have that same power almost of like, my best friend shouldn't fucking hook up with the guy I've been complaining to?
But didn't Sierra say, I can hook up with whoever I want?
Why don't you just ask me out on a date while you have to ask him?
Yeah, West is being toxic.
Literally, West did the thing that she told Jesse he should have done to her.
No, West should not do anything with Amanda ever, ever, ever.
I'm just kind of saying, West is kind of like listening to Sierra and like living life through her eyes.
Yo, you had me on TV.
Sierra, but now they're like, I don't watch the show.
I'm just saying.
I don't watch the show.
I'm being convinced.
Can you remember?
Can you remember?
In this season, we're watching West kind of seduce Sierra again?
And she's.
But you can't seduce Sierra based on what you said to me.
This is a strong, independent woman.
She makes the decisions for herself.
She's not going to let some guy manipulate her.
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
Okay.
That's the type of guy who does shit like that.
In their life, all to this relationship.
Al did this on AM Mornings.
He's holding Sierra to a really high standard of, like, oh, don't hook up with the fuckboy.
Try to live your life that way.
It's difficult.
I'm going to sneak in the cracks because they get close to you and they pretend to be gay.
You get to fuck a fuckboy, so it's not hard to not.
There's still time.
Lady fuckboy.
You are a lady fuckboy.
Okay, go.
I love the passion.
Please stop hitting the board as hard as you want.
No, hit it as hard as you want.
It's fine.
Okay, go.
Okay, so just so I can understand this, and I'm trying to be completely objective here as someone who has not consumed the show, and I'm just going off of this explanation of what I've seen on the internet.
Sierra, strong, independent woman, wants a serious relationship, doesn't believe in this idea that just because two guys are friends, they should have to ask permission in order to ask her out on a date.
She just wants to be involved more.
She wants to be involved.
I get that.
I totally get that.
She's totally involved in everything.
She's involved in their demise.
She's involved in.
It's all because Amanda's unhappy.
Sierra's not like putting that on Amanda.
Amanda is actively crying about what her husband is yelling at her in front of everybody.
He should not yell at her.
You shouldn't be yelling at women.
He be doing it.
I know it's wrong.
It is a.
What is his name?
Kyle?
Kyle.
Kyle, this is there's you just cannot do it, but try to live your life not yelling at a woman.
Yeah, I think it just we all yell and we all sleep in the dog park.
Yeah, we do.
These are not, you can't yell, no one can't yell.
Yeah, often very lame.
It's like 2 a.m. and being like.
Like, you're not paying attention to me.
You want to hang out with the other guys and not me, and I'm your husband.
And it's like, shut the fuck up.
Oh, so he's insecure.
He's hurt that his wife doesn't want to be with him.
He just wants to be loved.
That's true.
He just wants to be loved.
They just want to be loved.
They just want to be loved.
They're so much resentment on both sides.
Because what they really want deep down, they can't ask for, which is, I just want your love.
I don't want you to be sitting at home all night smoking weed and just cuddling up.
I actually want you to take interest in what I'm interested in, which is DJing and selling concerts.
And hanging out with 25 year old fans?
Yeah, I just want you to take interest in my interests.
Yeah.
Aren't you rasping about these ass vibes?
I'm just saying, like, maybe that's what he's really into.
Something interesting is Amanda is crying, and two episodes ago, she's crying, saying, I didn't ever think I could do better.
That's why I married him.
Like, if you're saying that, like, it's over.
Listen, the reality is that, you know, we deal with these complex situations that are handed down to us from the relationships our parents have.
And, like, we really have to look into Amanda's parents and see if Amanda's parents are together, but with all this, we're thinking about.
But why would she settle for this, like, male model?
She has.
Ha!
I can't imagine.
Kyle is ageless.
He's looked that way since he was born.
He's 43.
Can you tell?
He's 43 years old.
He's 43.
So he's this incredibly handsome guy, and the man is going, I didn't think I deserved anything better.
He looks handsome.
He's ageless.
I think he looks handsome.
He's a DJ.
He can be matched.
I forgot I came on the gay podcast.
You guys love that.
You didn't listen to the beginning.
This is nothing compared to that.
You should see his picture of Mark.
He's a vlogger.
Hold on.
Where even are we?
What you were framing to me?
They just hard launched.
There's situations.
It seemed to me, and I could be wrong.
Wes is dealing with this emotional turmoil of realizing he fucked up the best woman that's ever been in his life, and he's probably not going to get another chance being Sierra.
This strong, independent.
Wes is working to get another chance.
Let me just posit the theory.
So he's trying to get this girl back in his life.
He realized he was being a fuckboy, and you know what?
He ran this girl away, and this girl's probably too strong.
She's probably too independent.
She probably respects herself too much.
She's really not.
To give him another chance.
Let me just say this.
She's really hard.
Can I just get it out?
I'm so, so, she's like, I, so, he's like, fuck, I just ruined the best thing that could have ever happened to me.
I'm down in the dumps.
I'm feeling so insecure.
I'm feeling so low.
I just want to feel good.
And Amanda, at the same time, thought that she could never do better than this guy.
It turns out that that relationship was toxic.
It was dysfunctional.
He's yelling at her.
She should never do it.
They've been with them to get together for 10 years.
And you know what?
It's not going to work out.
So, the both of them are in the dumps.
They're at their lowest.
And two people at their lowest find each other just so they can feel good for one moment.
And then the entire world is scrutinizing.
I'm listening.
I'm listening.
Is that possible?
I just want to add some flair.
That is what's happening, but let me tell you.
I don't care what gender you are, if your friend comes to you and says, you know, I'm having a hard time with this guy who's like going in the New York Times saying I'm like undateable, that's top of your list.
Do not fuck.
That must be it.
Amanda, you've been in a relationship for 10 years.
Try someone else that's not living in the fucking house, didn't screw your friend over for the last three years.
And you're not going to redo that contract if you do that.
What about Brocoat?
Because they're cool.
Yeah, these guys are friends.
He just took her.
And you missed the big part.
They might have been hooking up before they were actually separated.
Absolutely.
Is that true?
We're watching.
That's the intrigue.
Is it possible?
Let me ask you this question Is it possible that Kyle talks to his boy, West, and he goes, West, I am in this marriage that I've realized is not right for me?
I need to get out of this marriage.
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Is there any way shape or form?
If this helps, go and go method.
Yeah, yeah.
So he goes, Hey, I need to get out of this marriage.
It's not right for me.
She's a lovely girl, but she's not into my interests.
She doesn't want to DJ until six in the morning.
She wants to smoke weed at the house all night, right?
I need to get out of this.
Is there any way that you could help me?
Funny.
He doesn't want to get out of it.
He loves Amanda.
That's one thing about this guy.
Like, he, like, she's so hot and awesome and cool.
And, like, everyone likes to hang out with Amanda.
Like, he's realizing, like, why does my wife hate me?
I wish she didn't hate me.
What are her interests besides smoking weed and chilling at the house?
I feel like that's what they all drink.
She's also like, has a swimwear line.
She likes dating fuckboys.
She got a date fuckboy.
What jobs do they have?
So he's a DJ.
I'm not into the stay at the house all day smoking weed, guys.
Not all day.
Yeah.
But she's just not staying at the club till.
She's like, I'm a married 34 year old woman.
Yeah.
I like that.
I like that.
I don't like going to a hospital before.
Peter Pan lifestyle.
And she's like, no, thank you.
We don't go out anymore like that.
What is her occupation?
She's a swimmer line.
And I think she's like the creative director of his alcohol company, but I'm not 100% sure.
But the alcohol company's failing.
Yes.
The alcohol company's failing.
Because of that.
He's crying.
His storyline is like, my wife hates me and I have three months payroll in my small business.
And it's really depressing.
Can I ask one question about that?
Yeah.
So is there a version where he took out this small business loan so he could keep paying his wife that he loves?
No, because he stopped taking salary.
And I also don't know if that's what she's the creative director of.
She's kind of like, he went to business school.
He's a businessman.
Why should I have checked about his loan?
This guy, I feel like he might be misunderstood.
It's also, it might be the victim in all of this.
I think he might be.
His dude sleeping with his wife.
Yeah.
He just wants love from his wife.
His wife wants to smoke weed and chill on a couch all day.
You are so wrong for that.
How's his music?
Does he have good music?
Yeah.
What is the DJing?
It's like, Unoriginal, like he's just playing, I will survive this past weekend.
Like, isn't that what DJing is?
Yeah, people's music that is kind of DJing.
I don't like him.
No, look, you can make an argument that like Wes is DJing his wife, right?
Like, he's playing other people's, he is playing other people's, like, and there might be a version where he really appreciates it.
Can I say, in this like situation that we're watching this season of Wes trying to like come back, Sierra's being very vulnerable.
At this big group dinner, saying, Hey, you guys don't know how hard it is to be on this show.
I was the first black cast member, and my fucking internet presence is just flooded with people clowning on me for just like letting these white boys play me.
And it does suck.
It sucks.
It sucks really bad.
And she's crying at this dinner, and the other black cast members are like, Wow, thank you for like bringing this up.
We could never like get them to understand.
Like, Kyle doesn't know shit about that.
Like, he's just like, you know, not so emotionally in tune, perhaps.
And West is like being very mature and listening to her.
And you think maybe he's gonna grow into like a person who can support her.
Right.
And it's also pretty cool to be like, I'm so hot.
She's a nurse, by the way.
She's a nurse in Florida.
It sounds like Kyle and Sierra would be perfect.
No, she hates Kyle.
I was about to say the same.
She hates Kyle.
Dang.
Sound like a perfect couple.
She hates Kyle because Kyle mistreated her best friend.
But now she knows her best friend will fuck her friend.
Yes.
Maybe her best friend's actually a friend of mine.
I don't think getting more entrenched in this is the move at all.
And let me tell you, a friend might be the problem.
Rihanna has reached out to Sierra and said, I'm going to set you up with Michael B. Jordan.
He's down.
She's like, Wait, Rihanna?
Yeah.
Friend of the show, one of Alex's friends that she took a photo with.
Yes, that did.
Yes.
Yes, no, I did.
Did you talk to her about this?
Yeah, I did.
That is crazy.
He's her best friend.
I DM'd it.
So, why would she do that?
Like, we're watching, we just saw her birthday dinner.
He got her a Cartier watch, but she planned all the food.
So, everyone's kind of like, you get her that Cartier watch because, like, you suck.
Like, is that.
Wait, wait, Is it?
No.
What is getting a car and washing?
Tell me.
Hold on one second.
It's kind of like when you get flowers because you yelled at her.
Like, you know, like that was the tone of the watch giving.
But she's planning the birthday.
Then getting a girl a nice gift is in place of doing all the planning.
Yeah, that's unattractive.
Yeah, but the guys that do all the planning, they probably aren't willing to buy their girl something really nice.
Oh, I'm just trying to be like, I am a good husband.
The good guys do both.
Yeah.
The good guys might not exist, is what this is showing me.
I don't know if you're going to find good guys that want to be on reality shows.
Yeah, I don't think Bravo's Summer House.
Yeah.
I don't know if that's where you're going to find your guy.
These people, they all might be sweet.
That's the least concession I can give you.
They have probably an insatiable desire for attention without a skill to get it.
So therefore, they put themselves on.
Is that the only thing you said about podcasters?
No.
No.
We are comedians.
Okay.
Okay.
We're comedians.
Yes.
You could say it about podcasters at some point.
We live in an attention economy.
Everyone loves us out of their own voice.
I don't.
Think Summer House is like as bad as, like, to your point, this is the most chic one you can do.
I think you could say it about podcasters, but I think if you have like an art, like, let's say you do music or you do comedy or something like that, you have a thing you could get attention for.
Yeah, I don't know if these guys have a thing they could get attention for, therefore, the currency is drama.
The currency is drama for sure, and it's a really tough situation to put.
Like, I look at the housewife chicks and I go, they need attention, they want cameras on them, they want people talking about them, but they don't really have a skill to do anything.
They're usually broke, the housewives.
Well, maybe they need to go on that show to get.
Money.
These people are going on the show to get a following to like have a future, like Paige and Hannah.
It is interesting that this guy has a failing seltzer company on one of the biggest shows.
I know.
It's so late.
You've had 10 years of free advertising.
You can't make an alcohol company work.
Are you fucking dumb as shit?
Yeah.
Maybe the creative direction.
Yeah, it could be the creative direction.
Like maybe if he hired a different creative director, then there would be a more successful company.
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I'm fine.
But he's so loyal that he won't fire his wife, who might be the issue for the business.
I regret saying that because I don't.
Joey, can we get a fact check on that?
What is she the creative director of?
Amanda, but she does have a swimmer line, and I know that was important to her.
For then, how's that?
I don't know.
She didn't wear one in the pool that day, and that was a huge problem.
She has a swimmer company, and she's wearing a swimmer company, but you're skinny dipping.
A lot of these things are not acting up.
She was wearing a bronzer.
Oh, the beverage man, okay.
She is the creative director and lead designer for the beverage man, Lover Boy.
She's an artist.
She's like, she's like, that's her thing.
She says that.
She's like, I don't know anything about business.
I design.
Well, clearly, she doesn't because that's Kyle, and oh my god, he looks crazy.
Maybe, maybe there's another reason why it's failing.
Have you ever seen this drink out?
Like, they have distribution problems.
It's like a poorly run company.
Like, you've never heard of it.
No.
So.
But I also, yeah.
Hmm.
He's so cringe.
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So, who are we, team?
We are team Sierra.
I was up until I heard their side.
Well, can we get into the Portnoy timeline of it all?
Yes.
What is the Portnoy timeline?
I've been watching this past season.
Okay, so Portnoy basically speaks up and he's like, when they do their dual post last week, he was like, oh, well, this is old news.
Chicken Fry, familiar.
Chicken Fry told me that at the Super Bowl.
And everyone on the internet says, whoa, whoa, whoa, we never heard Super Bowl timeline before.
Oh.
They had been hooking up at the Super Bowl.
They've only been separated since January.
That's one month.
And then we look back at the fucking season that we're watching right now, and she'll like, Kyle's drunk and yelling at her.
She'll go in the bathroom crying, right?
She'll come out and she'll see West and she'll smile.
Or, like, or like they're walking by each other in the hallway, and she'll kind of like do like a dragging arm thing, and their arms are touching each other.
Oh, yeah, they're fucking.
And I'm watching now being like, oh, all bets are off of when this situation starts.
They're fucking.
And they were also settled the monkey boss.
Monkey boss.
It's where, like, you don't let go of one until you have a handle on it.
She could not let go of him until she had him.
And so maybe he helped.
He's like methadone.
Like, he helped her off it.
Yeah, but she should be off men entirely.
I encourage her to, like, get withdrawals.
Yeah, like you can't go cold turkey.
Yeah.
If you're bouncing on a crazy style for years, all of a sudden you stop.
He's bouncing on a crazy style.
I know, they were even six.
Come on.
He, oh my God, in the shower, he asks her to shower with her and she says no.
It's like.
She sounds horrible.
She's not great.
She, like, there's nothing in daring you can think about.
Yeah, like, she's very insecure leaving this relationship and, like, went for the first thing.
But the way you're describing her, she's like some pothead that just hangs out on the couch while her husband's company that he pays her to work at is failing.
Maybe she should be working.
I think you're overemphasizing the stoner thing.
I'm just going off of her style.
I'm just going off of her style.
You said that her personality wasn't her.
She's just kind of like, oh, it's 11 p.m.
Maybe I'd want to like watch a show and hit the 10 with my husband.
Maybe you should design some new cans.
Maybe you should work on brands.
He asked her to come in the shower and she said no.
Like, he's trying to get her on the bed.
There's nothing better than coming in the shower.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, they're not having sex.
Like, it's not like she's like.
But I mean, it seems like it's hers.
She's the problem.
He's trying.
He's making an effort.
So he's making an effort.
Wes is the fucking problem.
That is your ex's best friend?
You wouldn't do that.
They're both smart.
You guys all wouldn't do that.
Would you get mad at a scorpion for stinging something?
You know?
It's like, you know my nature.
You decided to ride across the river.
How do you quite know his nature?
This is very dark.
How would you know that he was going to do this?
We know his nature.
You said he's a fuckboy.
Yeah.
You got to expect that from fuckboys.
But we only learned he was a fuckboy once he had already been engaged with Sierra and invited her to the show.
Kyle was a fuckboy.
They were engaged?
No, like engaged with.
Like they were kissing Sierra on the first season of his.
And then once it airs, then we kind of realize he's a fuckboy.
When you say kissing, they were fucking.
Yeah.
Okay.
But like they were hooking up, and then because they're hooking up on the show, it means they're in a relationship.
She was kind of like, I don't really want to be with anyone unless you actually have feelings for me.
And he kind of was like, Yeah, okay.
He kind of was like, Or he said, Okay, I'll be with you.
No.
He's like, This is like girl years where they hear, Yeah, we're in a relationship, but he's probably like, Nah, we're just fucking.
And then she gets upset.
Nah, I kind of think she's doing the thing that he's just like.
He's been using his close friendship with her to be like, Yeah, I know you want someone, I'm that someone.
And then the second he can get ass with his new followers, he's like, I would never be with Sierra.
Let me tell fucking every podcast.
News outlet who cares what I have to say that, like, I would never want to be with Sierra.
Meanwhile, she's like, Fuck you, dude.
Keep my name out your mouth.
You're a rookie.
You've never been on a reality show.
You don't do that to each other.
Like, we're a tight knit community.
Oh, rookie.
Wait, survivor, you do that to people.
And, like, trader, dude.
But this isn't a.
Isn't the basis of reality shows fucking people over?
Yeah, that doesn't work out for us.
I guess in that unique way, your favorite word, gauche.
Yes.
So gauche.
So gauche.
You wouldn't do that.
But I would also say.
If you got in a disagreement with Mark, you wouldn't, like, go to the New York Times and be like, Mark was rude to me.
But that could actually help.
With ticket sales, if you did, yeah, talk about me as much as you can.
He'll be at Set next week and the Mary Lou show as well.
Yes, um, I it seems to me that Sierra's personality type does not fit with reality TV.
No, she is like really fun and funny.
But that's not what the show is about.
Would you rather all of them are just like really well adjusted and nice?
This show, let me tell you what this show is about, having never seen it.
Drama.
Yeah.
And the first time there's some real drama, the entire world is talking about it.
So that's what this show has been missing.
I actually think Sierra is perfect for the show because she represents you.
Yes.
She represents the viewers.
She's someone to get fucked over by these psychopaths on a reality show.
What I mean by like not supposed to be on a reality show, I mean the personality type.
She's like so like measured and from your perspective.
Cool and normal.
Cool and normal.
Yeah.
And then she's almost taken advantage of by all these people who are not really measured cool and normal.
They have the sensational stuff.
And she's also dealing with something that is being a 10 out of 10.
She's like, everyone's obsessed with me.
Don't fuck me unless you were serious about it.
You know, all the dudes come to the house and like want to fuck with Sierra.
And she's like, I only want to let someone in.
They're like, share my values.
Has she tried not fucking them?
She did try.
He weaseled his way in through friendship.
That I don't know.
A summer?
He weaseled in through friendship.
Yeah.
We've seen it done.
Oh, we've seen it.
We've seen it then.
Just saying, girls, you gotta hold out a little bit longer.
You gotta see how long they were.
This character is the mistake.
I'm just saying.
Just spend any time doing that.
If there's a wooden horse outside, don't bring it inside.
Don't bring the wooden horse in.
Be a wooden horse.
He's allowed to be a wooden horse.
Because he doesn't do what wooden horses do.
That's what guys do.
Take it up with Andy Cole.
Get him off the payroll.
I mean, see, it's on a TV show.
What are you talking about?
You're fucking the guy who goes on the reality show for attention.
Everyone's on the reality show.
That's a non starter.
Do you have to only fuck people on the reality show?
Yes.
That's an interesting thing to me because I'm like, dude, just find another dude.
And why can't she?
Because she's insecure.
Because the producer is telling her, hey, hooked up with this guy.
Thank you.
Gang, gang, gang, Mark.
Break the reality.
I was playing the KFA for a little bit.
It's also like, what are we talking about?
What are we talking about?
Right?
Give Alex real talk.
Give Alex real talk.
Let's get into it.
Give Alex real talk, Mark.
Talk your shit.
What is, like, this is not real.
What do you mean?
Like, this is a science experiment where producers put them in rooms and then they manipulate them and then they edit it to make it look like something else.
And they add alcohol.
Yeah.
They mentally torture them.
That's the most real for sure.
Oh, you're so adorable.
She's so cute.
She's so cute.
They really buy into this shit.
I know.
Can I just be like watching a trash show for 10 years?
This is the kind of punchline you hope is going to pay off.
You know what I mean?
Like, we've been invested in these things.
This is adorable.
Yeah.
It's fun, but it's not like.
Alex, I'm sorry.
Alex, who was growing up, was also like, Christopher Columbus was.
So noble in brain.
I read it in a book.
I did learn that in high school that he might not be.
Yeah, he might not be, but whatever.
We're here already.
Yeah.
So the point is, you have people who are probably all a little bit crazy.
That's why they agreed to go on a reality show and expose the inner workings of their emotional turmoil with the world.
Without even an equity stake, they still have age off.
They still have age off.
Look at people in Louisiana.
But would you let somebody film you?
Hooking up with guys and you still had a day job?
If I could work here Monday through Thursday and get this following Friday through Sunday, absolutely I fucking would.
I don't think that you would.
No, you wouldn't.
No, I can't say what you wouldn't do.
And I'm not talking about hooking up with guys, but would you let somebody film like the intimacies of your emotional relationships and you still worked at a restaurant?
It's one or the other, right?
Like this is, they're giving them nothing.
I guess you're doing it as an out to get out of your restaurant job.
You're hoping that you can build a following to get out.
So it's like emotional squid games.
It's like instead of competing to the death, you're just like putting your psyche on the line every single episode.
You're hoping that you can make yourself a face.
And you're going through that job, and Monday through Thursday, you're like, man, this sucks.
I'm like, I know how to get attention on this show.
I know what I got to do.
That's what I'm about to do.
And Alex, all of them.
There are some success stories like Hannah and Paige, but then you also have Kyle, who's in debt with a shitty company that's been on for 10 seasons.
Well, now he's doing front facing content, being like, it was really hard for me to be open about my financial losses, and I would really support if you guys would support Lover Boy.
And come to my DJ shows.
So I think he's going to like turn it around 10 seasons.
He's just a fucking loser.
That's a big takeaway Kyle is lame.
I don't know enough.
I don't know the guy.
I don't know.
I don't know enough.
I don't know enough.
But based on what you're saying, I think a lot of people could probably relate to having a dream and like giving everything and putting after it and then like it not working out.
And then your boy steals your wife.
That is the.
That would suck.
This guy, this guy has lost the most.
Yes.
This guy has lost, he lost the love of his life and his marriage.
Amanda also lost her marriage and her creative director.
Amanda's gonna be fine.
She already got another guy.
She's already got another guy and she's the talk of the town.
Yeah.
She's the talk of the town in a bad way.
And honestly, something that I think Amanda's not calculating is that West will not commit to you either, bitch.
I'm sure that he's just like scrolling through his new followers from this, looking at everyone in a bikini, being like, Life's awesome.
West should be the face of their seltzer brand.
That is lover boy.
He's like kind of the epitome of seltzer.
He's not a lover.
But girls don't want a seltzer.
You know what I mean?
Girls, when they drink seltzer, don't want a lover.
They want a fuckboy.
But you can't put that word on a can.
So you say lover boy.
It's fuckboy seltzer.
And that's the peak fuckboy right there.
I would assume that Kyle wants to kill West.
No, no, no.
Kyle wants attention.
And West is giving Kyle attention.
But it's the worst kind of attention.
No, it's better because before he was just a bad hugger.
Can you explain a reality show to her?
No, it's the worst.
Do you think Still Cool Steve Austin really tried to kill Vince McMahon?
Yeah, what do you believe and not believe?
Do you think Vince McMahon's daughter really married Triple H?
I've been there for a while.
Can you sit down and watch WWE, Mark?
Do you think that's my palette of content?
Yes.
WWE is realer than this, I promise you.
Actually, in fairness, Triple H did marry Vince McMahon's daughter.
Yeah.
This is like.
Pretty fucking real to me.
I don't know because also when they announce their, you're laughing.
When they announce, so adorable.
Yeah.
This is like, can't women have hobbies?
I'm thinking about my daughter and I'm going to have to go through this in a few years with like blues clues.
That's what this is.
The blues clues are always more blue because it listens to you.
It's like, where's the pencil?
And you're like, it's over there.
And you're like, oh, thanks.
Yeah, well, the pencil is Wes and Batula.
Batula?
That's her laughing?
Batula, yeah.
Batula, yeah.
There's a picture of Sierra when they co post their like Instagram story thing.
There's just a paparazzi picture of her in New York City in meatpacking, like on the ground, to the point where it's like, oh, I thought she probably knew, but she didn't know that they were posting that clearly.
She's like literally outside of like pasties, like on the ground.
So it's like she's just getting screwed over by people that she loves.
She does really believe this shit.
Yeah, you don't think they're the pop star.
How did the paparazzi know she was going to be there?
Can I tell you?
I actually got this in a group chat of like women I went to college with way before page six had it.
Are you starting to realize a little bit of what's happening or no?
I know.
It's like, Paige Six gets this great perfect shot at the exact moment.
Dude, what if you go hard, lock down there?
I've heard of her nurturingly and caringly.
Why would the paparazzi be outside?
Why would she go inside?
I literally got this text in a group chat.
My friend sent me, like, oh, so and so sent me this photo.
Like, they saw her there.
Like, that photo is not like.
So it might be completely disastrous.
I think a 27 year old girl who works at W and got a paycheck for sending that photo.
But it's possible that this has nothing to do with this at all.
It's possible that's not even Sierra.
What do you mean by that?
I'm just saying.
Are you introducing psyops to this?
I'm just saying.
It's possible it's AI.
It's possible it's anything.
If we don't have the dates to this, it just looks like a moment where she's in despair and then we're applying it to this situation.
It could have nothing to do with it.
And who's it doing?
Who's it consoling?
Exactly.
That either is.
He looks like a gay older gentleman.
Or he's playing the West game.
And that's about to be the next fuckboy that she falls for.
I think ABC is silly to not make Sierra the Bachelor.
Meanwhile, she would never do that.
I think she's too gay.
Good for it, honestly.
Like, I don't think she would like it.
You're so adorable.
She went on Traders.
She'll go on the badge for that.
Traders is actually a high level show.
Traders is actually a good show.
It's like complex and it's like, it's like chess, basically.
You're basically, it is.
It's Traders is like a high level television.
It's not reality TV.
It's not reality TV.
It's reality TV.
It's And those people are actually backstabbing each other.
Like, in Traders, they're actually shocked.
Oh, boy.
Like, it actually, you can see the despair.
It wasn't the producers at all.
It really is.
Once you like, Something you have to make it smart, no, no, no.
Traders are smart, and then I happen to like it.
You have to like get a really high SAT score to understand traders, like just in general.
Like, you have to be like a big brain.
I don't know one dumb guy that doesn't, I don't know if I could hang, I don't know if I can handle it.
Really, no, you're too honest.
There's a lot of people traders, it's like easier than the celebrity one.
You could like Miles and I played traders this weekend, yeah, yeah, we did, yeah.
How do you play it?
It's a It's like a TV game where you have your phone and one of you's the murderer, and then you have to try to guess who it is based off evidence.
You guys are giving me shit for watching reality TV.
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He's playing games about it.
That's beyond reality.
That's like literally the most reality.
You're LARPing.
That's IRL.
You're LARPing.
Yeah.
And Miles was guilty twice in a row and played it off both times.
Traitors.
No, I got caught both times.
Yeah, if you tried, you tried to lie to all of us.
Yeah, I did.
So I'm like, is there a moment where Kyle and Wes talk about Amanda?
Yeah.
The most recent episode, which is like August 2nd, 2025.
He's saying, Hey, bro, don't talk to your wife like that.
She's our friend.
Like, that's the last we see.
No, I'm talking about after.
Yeah, we don't.
Okay.
We don't know their communications.
He'd be like, Yeah, what?
You know, bro, treat your wife better because I'm smashing her.
Yeah.
Because I want to fuck her.
No, he's probably fucking her.
But also, doesn't he benefit if he treats her worse?
Like, because then she needs him more?
It's like kind of a Munchausen situation, right?
So he's like, The more vulnerable she is, the more isolated she is.
Well, I imagine you think Wes is truly evil.
I don't think he's truly evil.
I think he just wants.
Everything in front of him, which is both of these women.
So, in this season, one is married, one is kind of doesn't trust him.
He's constantly seeking validation.
Yes, he's an insecure man as well.
He validates himself through women instead of art.
Yes, unless you call sports journalism art.
Well, no, there's an art to journalism.
Yeah, there's.
Yeah, very attached to it.
I've actually never read his work.
I don't know what it's about at all.
We should bring up an article.
Yeah, I would love that.
I mean, clearly the guy's got a way with words, right?
He's able to.
He's a charmer.
Yeah, he must be charming.
He's charming.
Yeah, right?
Never trust.
an adult blonde.
Not good, it's not a good idea.
It's actually an interesting point.
A blonde male, they're both adult blondes.
You don't see a lot of adult blondes, huh?
Like male blondes, yeah.
Why is that?
They're dangerous.
Why is that?
Do the hair like it starts to get darker when you get older, right?
Yeah, Sweden is probably part of it.
They're evil, yeah.
He keeps the blonde alive.
Yo, were the people in jail with you in Sweden brown haired?
Is that how they disproportionately do lock up brown?
Do they disproportionately lock up the brown haired people in Sweden?
Were there any like super blue eyed, blonde haired, like Aryan dudes in jail with you?
There's actually two.
Really?
I think they were Russian though.
Okay.
Damn.
Okay.
So then what?
These are your neighbors.
You've never seen these people?
I've never seen one of them out.
These are your neighbors out there and probably in the city as well.
Where's the house?
The house is in Hampton Bay's watermill.
I don't know.
Well, those are very different.
Very different places.
Very different places.
Look at where the house is.
Yeah.
Joey, I'm curious where the house is.
They're also like getting a new one for the next season.
I saw the tour.
It's on sale.
It's on sale.
Yeah.
Can we buy it?
Watermill.
Flagrant Content House.
Flagrant Content House.
Watermill.
Is that East Hampton?
Watermill.
No, Watermill is like right before Bridgehampton.
Beautiful area.
Yeah.
It's a beautiful house.
They have a great time at the house.
Summer House.
Wow.
I can't believe I've never heard of this fucking show.
Is anyone good?
But your wife watches it?
Oh, wait.
No, she never watched it.
She only watched The Housewives.
And last night I go home and as I get into bed, it's on.
Yeah.
So she's going to be on.
There's so much like.
Right.
I mean, you guys should tune in.
Tell me if you think they're fucking.
Paige is still on the show.
No, Paige is laughing all the way to the fucking bank.
And I'll tell you why.
Last season was her last Summer House season.
And she broke up with her boyfriend, who's also on Southern Charm.
That's a different franchise.
And their Southern Charm drama is also very good.
And Craig is just like crashing out.
So Paige left Summer House and left her loser ass Southern Charm boyfriend.
And she just did a collab with Kordi Kardashian.
She's honestly really cool and awesome.
So is there a way to be successful on this show and not be.
What do you, how would you define these people?
I would say Paige is like the only case because Hannah Burner did crash out really bad on Summer House.
She crashed out.
Yeah, like it was like, I think if you're going to go on the show, you're probably going to be embarrassed.
But they mentally torture them.
They keep them up all night and give them alcohol.
Does that sound like torture to you?
Yeah.
Sounds amazing.
That kind of does sound funny.
That kind of sounds like just one weekend on your side.
I feel like I'm a professional in New York who had no access to the Hamptons.
Yeah.
Here's a fun share house.
We have day parties on Saturdays.
Oh, completely.
Completely on paper, sounds fun.
I see how it sounds fun.
Yeah, I get why they do.
So does fraternity hazing.
Hey, you want to join our friend group?
You motherfuckers love it.
You talk about it fondly.
Yeah, but it wasn't filmed.
It wasn't put on TV.
Not that you know.
That's a good point.
It being monetized by another entity is a tricky one from Andy.
But yeah, Andy Cohen sucks.
Where you can quit your job.
No, I think Andy Cohen was the only guy that got people to watch regular TV when everything went to streaming.
Like that's how compelling these shows are.
And also Peacock is the most usable streamer.
I love it.
Now, what's the difference between Dr. Phil and Andy Kahn?
Wow.
Okay.
Dr. Phil, in my memory, kind of capitalized more on people's like mental illness and like poverty.
I mean, right in a while.
Yeah.
Like, Mari Povich.
Yeah, like, I'm like, what?
I'm going to go to the bathroom and just work that out.
I'll be right back.
I'll be right back.
Do you, okay.
Andy Cohen deals with more like aspirational, like former actresses.
Like, it's not like, sorry, someone with like a mental illness.
Disability fighting with their.
Isn't that what Dr. Phil was?
Who's more successful off of these shows?
Catch Me Outside Girl or the highest earner of Summer House?
Catch Me Outside Girl.
Catch Me Outside Girl.
Yeah.
I think Dr. Phil hits it a higher clip.
Catch Me Outside Girl is rich right now.
What was her name?
She's scared.
I think she just made like fucking 8 mil off of OnlyFans or some shit.
But that's one case.
Like Andy Cohen has so many people who've come out of.
Andy Bergoglio has a net worth of 35 to 50 mil.
Wow.
For what?
Yeah, exactly.
OnlyFans.
So shout out to the guy.
Okay, that's porn.
That's different.
He's doing the large work.
That's sex work.
But.
Okay.
Oldest profession.
Woke podcast.
Oldest profession.
Yeah, oldest profession, unfortunately.
Yep.
Yeah, unfortunately.
So when does the new season come out?
It's out.
We're watching new seasons.
Have you been listening for years?
This happens over summer of 25.
It comes out now.
And what happens in summer of 26 will come out next year.
Yes.
Yes, but you're forgetting we're still looking forward to a reunion.
Where they will all sit on a couch like this with Andy Cohen in the middle and they will talk about the themes.
They'll talk about, did you watch it?
How do you feel?
And I'm like, how is Amanda going to even show up there?
And will, okay, that's the other thing about Andy Cohen.
I'm shame to go on the show.
You can't, if you want to come back the next year and if you want to get your final paycheck, you have to go to the reunion.
Those are Andy Cohen rules.
Yeah.
It keeps them like kind of.
You're saying that she wouldn't go on the most watched TV show that the.
You're almost saying Andy Cohen holds money, but it's not.
So people can call her a white devil.
I don't think that's something.
They don't tear.
They want attention, Alex.
They'll do anything for it.
They found something where they get to party in the Hamptons and get the attention.
They would do anything for the attention.
These people are as mentally ill as the people that go on Dr. Phil, maybe more.
More?
Yeah, because at least Dr. Phil, they're kids.
These are grown adults that should know better and still choose to do it.
And it doesn't mean it's not fun and entertaining to watch.
I have an interesting response to that.
Please, The way that the attention economy has shifted, now you're basically, it's a race to get followers if you want a career as a.
Because you can monetize the followers, right?
Absolutely.
Like that's what they're up to.
And there are no, sorry, scripted talking head shows anymore.
There is no guy code to like put you on.
This is their confessional.
This is their talking head show.
That's what's available.
The whole thing is evil.
This culture is sick.
We're in end stages.
Yeah, but don't blame the.
No, what I would say is that there are other ways that you can get on.
Like there are tons of people making really cool creative content online that don't have followers.
No, and there are people that are making creative, fun content online that do have followers.
Like the Drewski sketch is like fun, creative content online and got tons of views, way more views than I thought.
Well, how did Drewski first get famous?
By doing sketches.
Was it always sketch?
Or was it like vlogging or like.
No, I think it was only sketches.
Only sketches.
To me, sketches is what I remember.
50 had to tell me who he was like a year ago.
Sure, it's not going to fit in like every, but he's objectively massive.
So, like the idea that you can't make it through art, I think is.
Yeah.
Sure, but like this is a really easy way to do it.
Well, yeah, if you don't have art, then you got to do it.
And the easy way is not always the best way.
And just having influencers doesn't make your seltzer brand work.
Yeah.
Yeah, no one.
Because they don't really want a seltzer brand.
They want to monetize fame.
And you can't make enough money on the show.
Seriality is a good way to do it.
Exactly.
Same thing.
But Hannah can do stand up.
So Hannah left, starts doing stand up, and she's like, yeah, that's fine.
And she blows the fuck up.
Yeah.
Because she has an art.
Yes.
And that's way better.
I guess I don't see that they can't do art if they're on this show.
They might be able to do art.
Yeah.
But it seems so far from what you're explaining.
They all might be artists.
I just have empathy as like a.
Person in their 20s in the city with no access to the Hamptons, like, fuck yeah, give me a ticket out.
You know what I mean?
I don't begrudge anybody for wanting to go there.
Yeah.
But there's a price that you pay for doing it, right?
So the price here is like the whole world is going to watch this emotional turmoil.
I have empathy for them that are going through that.
Like, that must be really tough.
And also must be really tough to be like, fuck, I still want the attention and I still feel like I need the fans and I still need these things.
So I'm going to have to submit myself to something that's going to make me miserable.
I have zero empathy for that.
Where they're adults and they're choosing to do it.
Yeah, but sometimes.
But you know what you sign up for.
Yeah, but sometimes.
You kind of know.
I think you get sold a bill of goods.
Like, you'll party to the Hamptons and find love and have fun.
That's true.
It's in reality TV.
But you don't know it's going to be that bad until it happens to you.
I agree.
How many times do we have to see the same thing over?
Like, every reality TV show.
That's fair.
This is kind of the lowest sex trafficking because, like, they meet a pimp and they're like, oh, maybe I'll just do it for like a weekend.
Maybe I'll strip.
And then the pimp takes advantage of them and they get exploited.
So, like, these cycles of abuse continue to go on.
Obviously, this is.
Men's a lot of sex trafficking happens, like, Under wraps, like you don't see it's not filmed, put on TV.
I mean, I get the metaphor you're now about.
People don't know.
Yeah, there's enough cycles in that way.
Sex work generally doesn't, you know what I mean?
People understand the cycle of exploitation, but yet they still do it because people continue to make the same mistakes because we're fallen people, all right?
There's all the original sin.
And here's the guy telling you a way out.
There's so many people, like, you know, there's so many, like, people that want to make it in Hollywood.
And then they're, like, shitty producers that would take advantage of that desire to go make something with their lives.
And, like, why can that not be also true in this situation?
If it can happen to, like, some of the most famous actors in history, why would it not happen to reality stars?
I get it.
I just think that reality, we know the producers are trying to make as much drama as possible.
And so it's like, what I would say about reality is that now I think that we're seeing more than ever is that people are going on it for opportunity.
Like, if you ever watch The Bachelor, The Bachelorette now, all the people on the show, they're not going to find love.
They're going for the wrong reasons.
That's something they say on that show.
Exactly.
And they're performing and they're living up to archetypes for the show.
Like, I'm going to be bad guy.
I'm going to be sweet guy.
I'm going to be supportive.
And like, It's almost to the point where, like, now the show is satirizing itself because it's too self aware.
So, to Alex's point, all these people know what they're getting into.
They grew up watching these shows.
They know what characters thrive on these shows.
They know what characters get no attention on the shows.
And you don't want to be someone who's on it without any attention.
Let Taylor Frankie Paul be the bachelorette.
We want to see it.
Yo, look, man.
They're so stupid for taking it away from us.
If that kid wasn't in the video, She's still the guy.
I actually, I'm going to be honest.
I didn't watch the video because I didn't want to see it.
It's disturbing.
I don't know if the kid got hit.
I don't know if the kid got hit.
If I can't listen to Kanye, we can't have Taylor Brice out.
Like, this is crazy.
He's like, hey, if I don't watch it, it didn't happen.
How many football players still play when they hit their watch?
Because they have an art.
I hate to bring it.
Kanye has an art, and that's why he's able to do football.
Football's not art.
Football's an art.
Is it?
Is ballet an art?
Yes, football is not ballet.
How is it not?
Just like smash heads.
Oh my God.
Brain scramble.
Oh, what is ballet?
Vomit.
What is it?
What is it?
Stand on my tippy toes.
What is it?
Have you considered it's also pink?
Yes, that is a very good one.
And that makes more art.
Football is pink in October.
Breast cancer awareness.
It's pretty common.
Yeah.
But I guess my point is that if you have things that there's an intangible skill attached to it, Then you kind of get away with shit.
I don't think you should.
People are monetizing a skill and being like funny, honestly, like situational.
Like Paige is just like charming as fuck her whole time in the house.
Yeah.
And maybe that's why she was so unique and able to launch.
To launch.
Whereas I think most people are funny because they're unaware of how absolutely absurd they're acting in front of a camera.
Yeah.
And we all get to watch it like, what the fuck am I saying?
Like watching those Mormon wives shit is insanity.
Yeah.
That show is actually too dark.
It's, I can't.
It's sad a little bit.
It's sad.
But we watch it.
We watched the, what is, Intervention when I was growing up.
That was our version of like, You're seeing someone's life fall apart and their family members come around to try to save them.
And you watch an episode, you're like, my life ain't that bad.
So let me tell you, I think Summer House is, I feel, I don't have that like icky feeling watching it because it's like, oh, they're 30, they're hot, it'll be fine.
Yeah.
Versus like an intervention that's like, ugh.
No, that is the most extreme.
Yeah.
But I agree with you.
We don't, it's actually the perfect intervention.
And that's the difference with like Dr. Phil, is like, Dr. Phil, I get that icky feeling.
You get a little icky feeling.
I don't think we should feel icky about it.
It's like the perfect discretion.
Yeah, this is fine.
This one is fine.
This is what Americans need right now, by the way.
Yeah.
We want to escape.
The reason this is so big is because America's like, I don't want to think about the news.
I don't want to think about the war.
I don't want to think about anything.
Give me emotional drama and I'll just focus my attention over there.
This is just older people's IRL streamers.
Exactly.
Like there's no difference in speed and fucking, you know.
It's the same exact clavicular.
It's literally the same.
I don't know a ton about streaming because I'm locked in on this.
This is streaming.
Yeah, they just go and live their life.
People are watching them live their life.
And then drama happens.
It's a vlog.
But also, I think, I don't know how streaming works, but this is.
Interesting, and that like the time away from the camera is also tea.
Like, we're wondering what they do.
This is a testament to the investment that the audience has in it.
Like, you've built up the relationships with these people, which is like no different than a podcast.
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Yeah, it is completely.
Yeah, I think Sierra's my best friend.
That's concerning.
That's the power of this, and that's why Cohen's brilliant.
And I'm sure the editors are editing it so you empathize with her.
Well, that's the other thing.
While this season is still airing, it's like the episodes we still have to watch.
Are they going back and re editing them?
Are they giving us more of them flirting?
Yeah.
Who knows?
Because the whole thing's filmed before they put it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they have no control in the edit.
Yeah.
You ever watch that Formula One Driver Survive?
I meant to.
It comes out way after the season, right?
So you already know who wins, but they figure out all the drama and then they edit for the drama around it.
And it's awesome.
Yeah.
Because that's kind of what we want.
We know that wrestling is the answer is already written, but toy with us as we get there.
That's this.
But it's better than wrestling.
For you.
Yes.
Until they're selling out stadiums, I don't know if it's better.
Ooh.
They might be able to.
They're selling out stadiums like in the house.
They could sell out a stadium of the reunion.
That's what I.
They should absolutely agree.
They should sell tickets to the reunion.
They should.
MSG.
Nah, you can't though.
Why, why, why?
You gotta control the edit.
Because you gotta control the edit.
Yeah, it's not scripted.
No, no, no.
The reunion is live, right?
They like film it in one go, but then they chop it down.
Oh, I said it's a lot.
Some of the shows' reunion is live.
It's like you watch, like, Survivor.
It's as close to live as it is.
It's like Day of, it's six months after.
With the reunion.
Cursing and all that.
Go, go, sorry.
It's pretty much just like one show.
They just like film it.
But if people get heated, they take a break, they might not come back.
Like, they might go to their trailer.
And that's part of it.
They bring a camera and they're like, I don't want to go back.
Like, they're fucking with me.
And it's like, that's funny.
It's not open to the public or ticketed seating.
No, it's not.
I got to watch it.
When is the reunion?
When is the reunion?
I don't know.
But it's going to be the biggest night in America.
Are we?
It is.
Trump tweeted about it today.
He said 8 p.m.
Yeah, 8 p.m.
Damn.
America has to go on past 8 p.m. tonight so we can watch this.
Is it possible that there are some leaders of the IRGC right now watching Summer House?
And they're like, we can't.
Soleimani's daughter was posted up with a green card in Miami.
You're right.
There's 100% chance she saw us, and she's probably Team Sierra.
Rihanna and John Hamm are like the two biggest people who have spoken on this, but I think this is just showing that.
Everyone's watching Bravo.
Well, that's the thing I've seen a lot of celebrities take pictures and like hang out with the housewives or the Mormon wives or whatever.
It honestly became a conflict of interest on one of the pods I listened to.
And that like the hosts are like friends with Amanda and Kyle and they're like, oh, we shouldn't like talk about our friends' breakup.
Like that's Paige and Hannah were pretty.
Or celebrities who also like the attention could just be jumping on this wave and pretending that they're big.
Do you think Rihanna needs the fucking attention?
I think she's invested.
She's your friend.
Either way, I'm not shocked Rihanna likes it.
No, we shouldn't be shocked that we all like this.
This is like at its core what's going on.
Yeah, but you are insisting on talking down on it.
Let me think if I'm talking down on it.
Let me think if I'm talking down on it.
I think that, like, you're talking down to the reaction.
Can I tell you, I also used to think, like, well, I want to process this trash.
I don't think, I think that there's trashy aspects to everything.
I mean, earlier this episode, we talked about Mark being so handsome that I was going to butt fuck him.
This is a gay ass podcast.
Well, you did say that.
Yeah, I did.
And my nephew watches this.
Yo.
And now he takes heroin to get skinny.
So it's like, got it.
Are you on that?
Yeah.
What?
Heroin?
He's on the hard, the hard, the hard one.
The HLP one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, yeah, not everything has to be high art, but I think we can look at certain things and be like, oh, this is a little bit.
What is it like when you're taking advantage of people?
What is that?
We're taking advantage of people that, like, specifically are mentally ill.
Like predatory.
Yeah, you could say, like, there's predatory aspects to it.
Now, that doesn't mean that we're not going to fucking watch it.
We love watching predatory shit.
We watch the NFL and they're giving each other CTE nonstop.
Now they're signing up to do that shit.
That's why I think it's high art.
Because you hurt yourself with something, well, then ballet is an art.
Hmm.
Hmm.
At ballet, I mean, if you know ballerinas, like their bodies get absolutely destroyed.
No, I do know that.
So I don't think just bees are bad.
I also think football is boring, but that's just a personal thing.
Well, yeah, like something's boring doesn't make it not art.
Every play I go watch is boring.
Yeah, Rothko is kind of boring.
But also, like, sports are different than art.
Those are different things.
Sure.
Yes, they are different than art.
Sure.
You're talking about, like, societal value.
I'm talking about skill based.
There's, like, a skill.
I think the biggest takeaway from all this is, Go home and watch this with your girl.
Oh, hell yeah.
Like, this is just an easy thing to do.
And it's okay to watch and judge.
Like, that's what we watch.
We watch fucking.
Yeah, totally.
Maybe that's more of my perspective.
It's like, I'm allowed to judge it.
That's why we're watching it.
So we can judge people.
Please.
And I love watching Bravo because you can like talk over it.
This is like perfect, like, oh, pull out my phone.
Who gives a fuck?
Like, this is truly double screen watching.
I don't feel weird about it.
Yeah.
Like, when I'm watching something scripted, I don't want to be on my phone.
Like, someone needs to be on their phone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You might, one shot might be like so informative.
This is not that.
This is just like perfect distraction TV.
And maybe it's at the level where it's not so predatory that we can enjoy it.
Whereas Dr. Phil passes predatory nature.
And you're like, people are well paid, they're rich, they're in the Hamptons.
Like, why is it so dark?
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has been really dark this season.
And it's like, ugh.
But this is so like, you got the future ahead of you.
It's a perfect amount of dark.
It's the stakes are just high enough where we're like, I'm invested, but there's not like children involved who are being torn apart.
So you don't feel bad.
That's maybe that's why this is so exciting.
It's like, I want something that I can just get distracted with.
But I don't feel bad after watching.
And what Amanda just did to Sierra is something like so rarely seen in the wild.
Girls doing that to other girls.
Yeah.
Like I think you grow out of that by 21.
I have a different theory on this, and we spoke about this yesterday.
Yeah, I don't agree with you.
I think girls, when they're in their 30s, every guy's fair game.
I think when they feel that clock ticking, they're like, I got to settle down.
Single women in their 30s, 30s, and married.
But they're breaking up, so you're not married.
But this is starting.
It might not be the right guy, but I think in her head, she's like, do I want to have kids?
Do I want to be married?
Do I not want to be alone?
Kids with West.
Disgusting.
Fair enough.
But she wouldn't be the first person to choose the wrong guy to have kids with.
Of course.
That's what I'm saying.
Women, when they get into their 30s, it's like, do I not start a relationship with that guy that my friend hooked up with 10 years ago?
This is really new, but 10 years ago, even though I kind of like him and he checks all the boxes.
10 years ago is something different.
It's every case you'd like to go to your friend and be like, what's up?
But honestly, if I'm at the bar and I'm vibing with someone that I know has done my friend wrong, it's psychologically impossible for me to catch a vibe with them.
Yeah.
I think if West was like well off, then that's something that's typical in women in their 30s.
But This is a good point.
Fuck over your friend for no future?
That's.
We haven't seen that.
I think that's a great point.
For a potential future?
Yeah.
All of a sudden people start to go.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's like, okay, I can understand.
It's not a nice move, but at least I can understand.
Yeah, there's no economic incentives to be with Wes.
I didn't mean economic, but like future incentives.
Yeah.
Like you're telling me the guy's not going to take her serious.
So now she's like fucking over a friend for a guy who's going to fuck over her.
If he does take her serious, it's just a fuck you to Sierra.
She is horrible.
Who, Amanda?
Yeah, Amanda's horrible.
It's bad.
So I hope she can learn from this and like just leave Wes and like, Become a better person.
You have to put these on her too.
Put it on her too.
That's true.
Yeah.
What about bad people?
What do the bikinis look like?
I don't know.
Should we look at this?
Oh, no.
I mean, that's crazy.
Why'd you just go back?
The influencer.
No, I'm just saying, like, the influencer economy doesn't work.
Like, it worked for a little bit where, like, it influenced.
Oh, it's so saturated.
But it's done.
I have two people I trust.
Not.
For, like, specific things.
Oh, okay.
Like, what?
That was a good goddamn or a bad goddamn?
This girl, like, 10 years ago got on YouTube.
Her name is MakeupByMandy24.
She taught me how to do makeup 10 years ago.
I've never, like, Gone to someone else for it.
Does she do?
Does she have like her own brand of makeup?
I think she had now like does content and like drives Range Rover and like has a whole life, but it's like she's like, wait a minute, this is this Amanda.
That's Amanda on the right.
She models her own stuff.
Yeah, these are we might have got it all wrong.
Yeah, I might be team Amanda.
I'm just saying, I think they're all hot.
We didn't do enough research before we started talking about this.
I'm an happily married man, dude.
I don't know what's the same, same, same.
Also, like getting off the e commerce is like pretty lame.
No, that's all starts.
Yeah, that's all starts.
This year's catalog was the go to.
You get the Victoria's Secret magazine.
Oh, that was a luxury.
Yeah, that's crazy.
How did you get that as an only child?
My mom worked a salon, so I'd steal them out of the baskets.
Oh, that's good.
National Geographic.
Guinness Book of World Records, most photographed woman.
I didn't say that.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Just me.
Who was it?
Who is it?
It was just some hot girl back in like 2001.
And you'd catch a lick off.
Yeah.
Boy, you never got the centerfold of the Guinness Book.
There's such a generational difference.
I feel like just.
Because of our access to internet.
Like, I'm not even just, I have no idea what that would even be like.
You can't have anything you want to see at any time.
This is how old I am.
When I see the amount of attractive people, when we were growing up, it felt like there weren't that many unbelievably attractive people.
It felt like there was like 20.
And you lived in New York City.
I lived in New York City.
Now on Instagram, it's like every time you scroll, there's another person that you're like, oh my God.
These people just exist in the wild.
Contributes to his inability to commit.
I think probably a lot of guys.
Society's inability.
Yeah.
All of us.
I think we.
Oh, so he represents.
All these girls in New York City that are struggling to find a guy who would take them serious because guys feel like there's so many options there.
So is he like the villain?
Yeah, he's.
We've all dated a West.
We've all stayed with a West way too long.
I see.
Yeah.
Who's like still hooking up with other people, but you like him and like you have that strong friendship foundation, but like he's running around on you.
He's not taking it serious.
How old is West?
West is 30.
Oh.
Oh, give him some time.
Come on.
Come on.
See now, I thought he was 42 or whatever the other guy was.
He's 43, she's 34, they're 30.
Son, he's just living.
That's why Summer House is so fun and indulgent because it's like they will figure it out.
34 is a tough age for women.
Is that the expiration date?
No, it's not.
But I think in their head, reality starts to set in at like 35, especially if you're a girl who's like obviously very beautiful and part of her identity is being like a young, beautiful woman.
She's dating a 30 year old fuckboy.
It's late.
You already fucked over your friend.
Do you think you're going to be the exception?
Girl up.
But think about it.
Maybe like you're 34, you're starting to see like the end of that ride as a superhero, essentially, like a beautiful woman that's in their 20s and maybe early 30s.
It's like you're like a celebrity, essentially.
And but now you're 34, you're about to be 35.
You're like, oh, what's going on?
Who is more validating to find you attractive than a young guy that gets all the girls?
Former college football player, according to the Google search I just saw.
Like, like, like you're feeling you're most insecure about your looks and like, Your identity is so lame because, like, what you're saying, it totally makes sense for a single person.
But the fact that you've been like married is like, dude, I know, but that's when you're most vulnerable right after a relationship.
Yo, don't you feel that way?
I just like want her to be single and like remember that there are other people in the world.
Well, we should talk to her.
We should talk to her, Amanda.
Amanda, why?
There's people out there.
Get off the show.
What a church.
Wes was just being a 30 year old boy, bro.
But you're not, though, dude.
I mean, I'm not, but I, yeah, go to, yeah, find God.
Go to church.
Go to church.
Love your family.
Homestead.
Followed by whom?
Scroll up real quick.
Oh.
She recorded at WTF before.
Yeah, a client, friends.
Yo, Al.
She has.
She has.
Al is crazy.
I'm TCR because she's getting gay.
He was pretending he didn't know shit this whole time.
I can be like, Al is cool.
She's gay.
She's funny.
I like that.
I'm making all the noises you can't.
Yeah, baby.
I appreciate it.
Oh, is she a model?
Yes, she is.
And a nurse and an influencer.
I mean, why be on the show?
She, I think now, the storyline about her like saving up to buy her grandparents' house, like, I do think she's probably hitting a level of financial independence that she might not need the show anymore.
Talking about some other girl trash.
Yeah, but right now she's coming off.
No, what is that?
Have you heard of this book?
Yeah.
You've heard of this?
Yeah.
I mean, this is wild.
Some girl book that you and Miles have read already.
That you don't know?
No, I don't know.
This got explained to me by proxy from a woman.
Okay.
It's a wild thing.
This is apparently like one of the most like top selling books right now for women, specifically in New York City.
There's like this woman that was married for 20 years, and all of a sudden her husband's not the person that she thought that.
He was okay, a stranger.
She's a part of like the socialite upper crust New York City society, and now they're in this big divorce.
He's trying to ruin her life, and she put it all in this like tell all expose book.
And all the girlies are talking about it.
Does he do the big strap on joints?
Like, yeah, he doesn't tell them.
Is this based on a true story?
It's a real thing that happened.
It's just a reality show in a book.
What's the name of the of the called The Stranger?
No, no, what's the reality of the people?
I have no idea.
This was explained to me by someone.
I truly that's the extent of what I know.
I was hoping that Alex would know about this, honestly.
Someone had mentioned it, and I just said, I Bella Burden.
I also thought you were talking about the Albert movie.
I'm so sorry.
I don't know this.
The picture?
Oh, shit.
That's my studio, I think.
Let's go.
Wait, is it?
Al is actually the one who's laughing.
Oh, no, not much.
It's Good Morning America.
Sorry, sorry.
Type shit.
But yeah, apparently this is like the number one show, but no one knows about it.
I don't want to read my reality TV.
See, but that's for the demo above you.
You understand?
That's true.
When I read, I want it to be literature.
This.
Oh, wow.
That's true.
Yeah.
Nirvana, the show, the band, the movie.
I heard I would really like that movie.
Yeah, I've never seen that movie.
I truly don't understand what it's about.
But regardless, can you rank these four people from the most moral to the least moral?
Most.
Team Sierra all day.
Second?
Yes, say it.
We're ranking them.
This fucking sucks though.
You shouldn't yell it ever.
Yeah, it's horrible.
It's a far second.
And to say, like, why will my wife support my DJ career is like pussy ass shit.
No, that's not true.
That's not true at all.
What he's expecting is like a wife's.
You want your.
You know, future whatever to support your endeavors.
I don't know what you want.
I know.
I'm just fucking, I'm just trying.
I know.
I'm fucking, that was good.
Give them credit for that.
You're too much fucking past.
I want your future relationship to, I'm not talking about your relationship.
Exactly.
I want workplace.
HR.
I don't want you to ever feel uncomfortable.
So I'm the captain now.
Yes.
Yes.
Fair enough.
Okay.
No, you want a supportive partner.
People want their spouses to support you.
I think what we're seeing here is him kind of expecting to be like, The celebrity in the relationship who has a normie partner, and she's kind of like, Why do I have to be at your DJ shows?
One, two, yeah, hesitant to three and four.
Give me to me as a woman.
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I think Amanda is worse because this betrayal is so bad.
And you're cheating on her husband, yeah, yeah, you cheated on anyone, and she cheated on herself.
She cheated on three people.
She cheated on her husband who's bad.
I don't give a no, no, no, she said, Until death do us part, yeah, two wrongs don't make her sickness and health, good times and bad.
You know, she should have ended it.
Like, exactly.
So she's a hard dude to be loyal to.
She knew that before they got married.
Yeah, then end it.
For sure.
Then end it.
It wasn't a race.
He's a 30 year old fuckboy.
He's doing exactly what he should be doing.
He's been the most consistent guy in this love square.
Yeah.
Love chess game.
Yes.
He's a 30 year old fuckboy out in the Hamptons.
He's doing exactly what he should be doing right now.
Low key.
Yeah.
But if this doesn't work out, like who the fuck is having sex with West ever again?
Every woman.
All the girls in the DMs.
Fuckboys don't have a problem getting laid.
Yeah.
No, but I'm just saying, like the women who've seen this behavior.
Wasn't that your premise that you were on this show with?
No.
So true.
But I think now.
And other girls.
If you have sex with West now after this whole thing, you're gross.
More girls will do it.
There's more.
Women don't learn from other women.
They have to learn from themselves.
Okay.
I think people in general.
Human beings long for the love that they knew as a child.
Even if that was the other way around.
Yeah, the separation wound.
He might be a bad partner, but a lot of their parents might have been bad partners.
So men and women will seek the pain that they know.
I mean, that's where we got to give Sierra Grace her saying, I don't have a relationship with my dad.
My mom's been married a couple times.
It bums me out.
Like, she's just human falling for a fuckboy like this.
You know?
And he's just human.
Do fuckboys like get to have whatever they want?
Like, they don't want that.
They're he's gonna be they want their moms to grow out of it, bro.
They want their moms to love.
Do you think at 40 he'll be like, okay, I want a wife?
Maybe, maybe not.
It's difficult to say, but ultimately, what he deep down wants is connection with most fuckboys.
He's allowed to have whatever he wants.
Most fuckboys grow out of the fuckboy era in your 20s, most of the time.
Hey, you're just having fun, and they leave behind a wake of destruction behind them.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
I love being a girl because, like, when I behave that way, it's kind of fine.
Like, I helped David draft a goodbye text, and I was like, I don't write these.
You're ghostwriting.
Wow.
I'm ghostwriting for David.
Okay.
I'm just warning you right now.
No, I know, I know, I know.
You got to pump the brain.
I'm pumping the brain.
I'm pumping the brain.
That'll be my last warning, by the way.
I'm sorry.
I feel totally comfortable with what I have said and shared on this podcast, and now it is up to you, and I will not take away your agency.
If you would like to share whatever you want, you are more than welcome.
I almost proudly say that to say, I want to support women.
How did I become the woman?
Anyway, Amanda, I just want her to have like a girl era.
Like, leave West, get out there.
No, she's too old.
She's too old.
The bikini e com?
You liked what you saw.
No offense.
I'm just saying, like, for her to go out there and become a girl, it's not a good look.
No.
She doesn't look like 34.
No, it's not about that.
She looks too old.
She should be like Sierra.
Hey, just.
I want a guy to take me.
Serious, yeah, no, don't do a serious person go to church, get baptized.
So, why do women have to do that and men don't have to do that?
They also should do that, they also should do that.
But women, unfortunately, do uphold a lot of the standards in relationships because men will just kind of take.
Yeah, have you seen gay guys?
Men are psychotic.
I'm just saying, like, men are psychotic.
Gay relationships, there's a lot of like open stuff where everybody wants to, everybody, whatever.
It's like women are the ones that like create the foundation for what a monogamous relationship is, and second you take women out of it.
There's no rules.
This is a genuine question.
As a single person, much more responsibility for.
Without them, dudes just kind of like, hey, man, it is what it is.
We're at the equinox.
We're at the equinox.
But with them, we go Steam Room.
Yes.
They're doing it.
That's okay.
Oh, no.
I'm not saying whether it's okay or not, but like the traditional values, we can talk all we want about like the patriarchy and the control the patriarchy has.
The matriarchy is what upholds the traditional values.
And this is my question for you guys.
As like a single person with like not the most hopeful, Full vibes of marriage.
No, no, no, no.
I'm just asking you guys.
She wants it.
She's going to deal with it.
She's going to talk about it.
Mark's face looks amazing.
I just want to know from your guys' perspective do men benefit from that, like monogamy, like women wanting to, like, pull it down?