Max Holloway recounts his half-guard strike against Conor McGregor and labels Daniel Cormier a "sellout" fraud. He defends Waiʻanae against gentrification, detailing his academic rise from a "hothead kid" to a scholarship recipient who now plans a Boys and Girls Club gym. Holloway critiques Hawaii's rail project and surfing dangers, including a near-death reef incident, while praising Japan's hospitality. Ultimately, he balances family life with upcoming fights in Singapore, urging support for Maui wildfire relief. [Automatically generated summary]
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Younger Brother Fight00:14:29
Bro, Max is one of the few guys I think we've had on that's fought Connor.
In that fight, he took me down.
I had him in half guard and I had like his ankle.
And right when he had passed, I like hit.
That's how he hurt his knee in the fight.
And he screamed.
He went, ah, like a hurtful scream.
I'm on the bottom holding him.
I was like, oh, you okay?
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep fighting, mate.
No, no, you're not.
DC's a sellout.
Talk to him.
He's the worst, bro.
He's lucky he's the heavyweight champion, something in the world.
Because other than that, you're nothing to me.
You think you got DC with the hands if it's just hands?
Brother, I got him the wrestling, the eating, whatever you want.
Throw off DC, wherever you have.
The cops probably know my car because it's just a loud ass car.
Wait, what is it?
What's the car?
It's like a matte red, but it's shiny.
It's had like a chrome finish.
What kind of car?
It's a Tesla.
An electric car, right?
Before we begin and talk so much about obviously what you got going on, I know we got a big announcement from you, et cetera.
Can you explain Wai-Nai to people who have never been to Hawaii?
Even people who have been to like Honolulu and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Because I think it's a very specific part of Hawaii in that I think it's like the only part that's not gentrified at all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's super off the bottom.
I mean, it's cool.
It's getting scary, though.
Wait, what you mean?
I mean, it's getting, bro.
The whites are coming, bro.
The Holly's are coming, bro.
Oh, we're scooping it up.
I know.
Your people.
What the hell?
With that haircut.
But yeah, bro.
I mean, to explain why you're not.
You're not going to like it, but the coffee gets better.
The dessert gets better.
I don't care.
It's just going to get better.
They just keep everything better on the Honolulu.
They don't even got Wi-Fi orders.
Okay, okay, so tell me, tell me.
Brother, if I had to explain Wai-Nai, I'd be like, it would be a place where a person would literally give you the back of their shirt off their back, or you come there and you just get beaten up.
There's only two middle.
You're either going to get beaten up or you're going to get a shirt.
It's how you, you know, that side of island, it's like a lot of people look at you like this, you know what I mean?
And like, people take it wrong because that's at the island, it's always sunny.
It's just the sun in our eyes.
That's what I mean.
It's the sun in our eyes.
It's not you guys.
So just be nice.
If you be nice, people are going to be nice.
They're going to welcome you.
But if you give a little attitude.
It's on.
Brother, I was telling my guy, bro, over here.
He's talking to me off camera about some situation.
I told him, bro, if I was with you, I would have told that guy, back the hell up.
I don't give a shit who you are.
You would have got slashed.
So are you still in situations where you got to throw down even now?
No, no.
Nobody's testing you.
Everybody's cool, bro.
I'd be nice.
That's why you'd be nice to everybody.
And then he comes back.
And nah, nah, they all love it.
You can walk around there without getting harassed.
You know what I mean?
It's like the best way to explain it is like, it's like LeBron in Ohio.
When you go out there, everybody's like, that's fucking LeBron.
They see him all the time at Acron.
They see him every time.
That's just how I am.
They know you since you're a kid.
A kid.
They saw me.
I went to Wai Nai Elementary, Wai Nai Intermediate, Wai Nai High School.
You know what I mean?
Through and through, born and raised out there.
So at the end of the day, it's just another day.
That's the wildest thing for me because most people reach your super stardom and they will move, right?
Especially in MMA.
A lot of people will go to one of the big MMA gyms in America.
Was it America Top Team?
There's a few of them.
What is the one in Denver?
That I think it's Usmo training out of there.
Gay Cheese training out of there.
I don't know what it is, bro.
I didn't even know the MMA.
I'm terrible, bro.
I'm so far apart of the MMA.
If you ask me about video games, I know every single game.
Every streamer.
Every step.
How are you saying?
You didn't move.
And I thought it was an interesting thing.
And not only did you not move, you didn't even move to a bougie area.
I still live in Wai Nai.
And actually, and actually, me and my me and my wife right now, we're going to, we actually just got land.
We actually moved deeper into Wai Nai toward Macau, where she's from.
So, like, we're at the at the MA.
See how they do.
They bring you over there, bro.
Slowly drag you out, bro.
He's gentrifying.
Junior be at Iolani, bro.
Never, brother.
Never.
My son might go to a private school, but he's still going to be in Wai Nai.
Okay, he's going to go to the private school in Wai Nai.
No, no, he's going to be in a pauper taking it back off.
What's the bougie school?
Iolani?
Iolani.
What's the rich kids?
Punaho.
Punaho.
What's Obama's one?
Puno.
Punaho's Obama.
Iolani's the what is that the rich kid one?
I mean, Punaho.
Iolani is rich, but that's the rich one.
Mid-pack, rich.
So would you guys would you like go fuck them up?
Like would you and your boys go fuck them up?
No, I wouldn't.
I don't do none of that.
Bro, I wasn't a fighter in school.
But then when they did, when uh when guys would fight, they would wasn't those ones.
It was at the other public schools, bro.
Yeah, no, yeah, nah.
None of these.
I think so.
These rich guys is like pretty smart to stay away from Wai Ni.
Like pretty smart.
I mean, the guys are smart.
The girls would actually mess with some of the Wai-Nai guys.
That's the only time they're Juliet.
That's the only time they would fight.
You know what I mean?
Like a good dick on that side of the island.
Long dick Wai Nai.
That's what I call it.
Okay, so no fighting, man.
That's weird.
So how do you even find out you're good at fighting?
Yeah.
Brother, I just, I mean, there's no local scraps.
There's nobody like...
Bro, I fought one.
I mean, you fight your friends, you know what I mean?
On the street, that's my friend.
You know what I mean?
We're fighting over, like, you didn't catch that in the end zone or whatever.
Like, we're fighting over pogs or chucking a pole, you know.
Like, I'll fight them.
Fighting over pogs is the dorkiest fight.
Bro, he's fighting over like Yu-Gi-Oh! cards or fucking life cards.
He pulls an exodiac when you're trying to just play for him.
Brother, yeah, it's like fucking that.
Or you trade, and then later on in the internet, because internet, you remember, that was dial up.
And you finally get to go on the internet.
You found out that this motherfucker traded you for these two cards thinking it was great for like three cards, but he took your shine.
He's like, bro, you screwed me.
Like, what's up?
And that's my best friend, though.
But I fought one time in the eighth grade, and I would have to say I won the fight only because I landed the only punch in the fight.
You know what I mean?
Like, my younger brother was a fighter.
So, like, you know, long story short, if when I started kickboxing, whatever, my cousin, my mom then would tell my aunt to them, oh, you come into Max's fight, you come into Max's fight.
And my younger brother's name is Clem.
They're like, you mean Clem?
They're like, no, no, no.
They thought my younger brother was a fighter.
So I ended up becoming the fighter.
I have no idea why.
Maybe I was smarter.
My younger brother was just bronze, I guess.
And I guess that was the brain.
Bro, there's a thing in Hawaii that's so interesting.
It's like the kindest, sweetest, most welcoming people that also will fight.
Can you explain how that comes together?
Because I've never met a Hawaiian that I thought was pussy, but never once.
Every one of them is like the sweetest, kindest guy.
They're like, oh, yeah, my shoulder's fucked up.
And they're like, why?
Oh, I just had to murder this guy with me.
How does that happen?
How are you the nicest people?
And also, fighting is like part of the culture.
And what you said is the culture, bro.
I think so.
Back in the day, you know, with Hawaiian culture, a lot of it was hand-to-hand convicts.
We didn't really have weapons until somebody came and colonized us.
We brought the math too.
All acquired shit.
Yeah, so, you know, at the end of the day, it's just in our blood.
It's in our blood.
You know, we have our, we have our own fighting style.
It's called the Lua.
You know what I mean?
And then, like, like, yeah, like a martial arts.
Yeah, Hawaiian martial arts.
It's called Lua.
So it's pretty sick.
A book and stuff.
But it's like, it's very like, it's very grungy bro, like grabbing sand, you know, grabbing testicles and twisting and pulling.
Oh it's, it's a gangster, big Tongan girl, use her as a shio or something, you know.
It was funny because, like I, like uh, my older brother is in into uh, into the Hawaii culture and everything.
And I remember telling one time like, oh yeah, you don't uh, like uh, my ex at the time I was like I just leave her at home.
You know why you come to fight, you don't bring you, don't bring uh, you don't bring your wife to to a fight.
And then but, Hawaiian warriors, they used to bring.
Yeah, the girls used to be warriors too, so they were scrapping, scrap too to fight frontline.
So it's kind of like avengers.
Yeah, when I went when yeah whatever, when I figured out, I was like that's pretty crazy.
Damn bro, WWE brawl, that's dope.
Tap your girl in like, take over.
Yeah, where are all the female fighters from Hawaii, bro?
I have no idea bro, I have no idea they're working at Walmart or whatever.
Remember that girl.
That girl was serious, that was impressive.
She lost her job.
Because how crazy is that?
Yeah, she lost her job.
Female football league that i'll probably hire her.
You know, I mean Dana White hired her.
I think Dana White hired her as a as a security guard for a little while.
Yeah, I don't know if he's, if she still is, but he did.
She got fired from Walmart.
Oh, best spy was BEST BUY.
Yeah, because you can't do that.
I'm like can't do what.
Stop somebody from stealing your car.
Yeah, there are worse things that could happen than getting fired from Walmart, though i'll tell you that right now I think she's gonna be okay.
Yeah, did you ever have fights in baseball, like there'd be like a baseball, like all the benches clear and then you just go brawl or whatever?
No, I never did.
I never did so.
You never fought your little brother's fighting.
Why?
Even i'm trying to understand like, why even go for, why even try it out?
Why even seek it?
Like what was this part of you?
I mean?
There's this, there's this thing.
You know, when you of see, when the UFC gyms came to Hawaii there's, there was this meme going around.
There's like this is not the first UFC gym.
There's this meme of why not high school?
The picture of the high school I went to is like this was the first UFC gym.
So I just wanted to, I just wanted to be able to protect myself.
You know what I mean.
Oh really, I just wanted to know like, I just wanted to be like oh bro, if somebody wanted to test me in school or something like it could be, it's okay, you know what I mean.
Like, I don't have to like, call my younger brother, you know my little bro will you have to protect yourself?
So I was just thinking like bro, I just, I just want to do this for to protect myself.
I remember uh, in 10th grade, I ended up uh, one of my good friends this this uh, this guy named Josh Kiano he, he was training and he was fighting.
So he said oh yeah, come.
So after baseball season I remember it was a wednesday I went with him trained, did the sparring, everything did all right.
Because on thursday I got asked if I wanted to fight on saturday because he was fighting, also your first day of training.
Yeah, and then they asked me, you want to fight?
I was like, I was like hell yeah, I was like in my mind it made perfect sense.
It made perfect sense because I was more scared of asking my grandparents for my grandma for 35 to go watch the fight.
That's how much it cost.
But then if I fought in, it was gonna be the first fight.
I get it for free, and you know what I mean.
Like it is what it is you love.
Hey, are you sure you're the brains of your family?
I like to think it's Spend $35,000, get it for free, you know.
And then I didn't even ask my grandma about it anymore.
I just had to go to my mom.
And my mom is kind of, it's kind of crazy.
And then I told my mom, mom, I'm going to fight.
And the only thing that she told me, she was like, she was like, so are you going to win?
I was like, I don't know.
You better win.
I was like, okay.
I ended up winning.
I remember I ended up winning.
I wanted to.
K1 was big at the time when I was 10 grade and I wanted to be a K1 kickboxer, all bull collar in, whatever.
I was like, I want to be like this.
Two years later, freaking the whole BJ Penn era happened.
He was fighting George St. Pierre.
I remember him, I remember his purse leaking was like 30K at the time or 60, something crazy.
And I was like, oh, that's a lot of money.
Frick this kickboxing stuff.
I've got to get into MMA only to bamboozle myself thinking 60K was a lot of money.
You know what I mean?
They make a lot more to be living.
It's good.
Damn.
Is your younger brother a fighter?
No, no, no, no.
Really doesn't fight.
No, he don't fight.
He don't fight at all.
He tried to, but yeah, he just didn't fight at all.
Do you remember the moment when you were like, oh, I love this?
I fucking love this.
Was it the first fight?
Or was it something else?
Was it had to be of the first fight?
You know what I mean?
Actually, it was like the first sparring on that Wednesday.
That day I told you, I got hit.
And I remember to myself, I got to punch this motherfucker back.
And that's the first thing that went to my mind.
Like, I got to punch this.
And then after my first fight, I got kicked in the face like three times.
So how big my nose look, this thing is like three times bigger.
And I remember looking in the mirror, being like, oh my gosh, my nose is huge.
But I remember thinking, like, this was fun.
Like, I need to do this again.
Kind of, I was like, this is fun.
Have you ever.
That's one of the things people say about you is that you have the best chin in fight sports.
Have you ever been rocked?
Brother, I knock on wood.
I mean, probably, but I don't know.
I don't know.
I guess.
I guess I'm not sure.
Has there ever been a time where you were like, okay.
The Andre Feely fight, I can honestly say, like, I mean, a lot of people would watch and be like, oh, the Dustin Poirier fight.
Like, I mean, even sometimes Dust says it, but then the second Dustin Poir fight, everybody's like, oh, yeah, he never got dropped.
And then I hear people like, yeah, because the fence saved him.
You know what I mean?
Like, because I was going back, right?
But I was like, okay, let's fucking make Make Believe.
And my wings came out.
I started flying against the stuff.
We were talking about Make Believe Land.
The cage is there for a reason.
You know what I mean?
I knew the cage was there.
Come on.
So at the end of the day, it's just like that one wasn't too much.
Like, I know I got hit and I knew the cage is going to have my back sooner or later.
So that's why.
You know what I mean?
But then with Andre Philly, I remember getting hit one time.
He cracked me at something.
I didn't even know what he hit me with.
I remember looking at the scoreboard was in Baltimore.
And I was looking at the time and I was thinking to myself, what the hell am I doing right now?
I don't know.
I was looking at the time.
I was like, why am I looking at the time?
I should be looking at this guy.
So that's probably one of the times that I've been.
Okay, so that's the only time you remember that you actually.
I did.
I was looking up and distracted.
Yeah, I was distracted.
I was like, why am I looking at the time?
I need to be looking at this guy.
So that was the main time.
The kick you took.
You took a kick against, what's his name?
Fuck.
Yeah, yeah, against Ayyer.
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The head kick.
Yeah, yeah.
And just ate it.
Yeah.
I pink.
Nothing?
Brother, no, nothing.
I just tripping up because I was literally like nose to nose.
You see how close we was?
I was just surprised he got it that high.
In my mind, I was thinking, like, what the, like, you know, you want, you know, when you see those comedy movies and you just see something like, you're looking at the legs and arms and mine?
What did he hit me with?
I was like, what?
Was that a kick?
I was just tripping.
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How much of you is like assessing what is going on?
Bro, a lot.
I think a lot.
A lot of times I catch myself in there just thinking like, bro, what is this and that?
You got to break down.
But then like sometimes you just ask yourself, like, really?
Like, we were just talking off screen.
No, we were talking off screen of when he was, when he was saying, like when we, when you train with someone who's not as good as you yeah, and what happens, you know.
So, like I remember Uh, fighting Cater you know what I mean like, and he's a beast, don't get me wrong.
But then some of his jabs, like when he first threw his first jab out there, I was like oh, this jab is like, it wasn't fast, I was thinking that it's not that fast and then he started catching me with it.
I was like what the?
I was like, what are you doing Max, slip this jab.
I could see it coming at me and I was watching this hit me, boom.
I was like bro, what is going on?
So what do you think it is what?
It was just timing.
It was just yeah, I thought so.
I was just watching.
I was like I can slip this and Tonk hit me.
I was like, what is going on?
So I can't say what it is.
I just think so that sometimes it's just you in there.
I probably was over assessing and then and and then the whole time with that fight he was, he was talking load man, so really yeah, he was like the buildup.
No to the buildup, bro.
I remember like he's like calling me, like he's calling me a freshman and telling me like this, talking so much, like they was claiming they was the best boxer ever, I was like you were hyped on that.
I was tripping out, you know.
I mean like even my fight with the last fight Arnold, you know, like they was claiming there was better boxer.
I was like are we watching the same film?
Like I don't know what's going on.
That's what I'm thinking, you know.
So that's just what I'm thinking in my mind.
But what do you think is like?
What do you think is your competitive advantage?
Like, what is the strength for you specifically when you're in there?
When you're up against a guy, do you know exactly how you're going to beat them?
Do you know why you're better?
Is it timing punches?
Is it countering?
Is it like I think it's just confidence?
Yeah, I think it's just confidence.
I think it's just confidence.
It's knowing that anywhere this place goes, I know I can compete with you.
Yeah, I'll be fine with you.
So, that's that's the main thing I'm thinking.
Like, I'm just like, bro, I'm gonna compete with you wherever we go.
I don't give a shit what you want to do, where we want to go.
You want to go to the ground?
I'll grapple with you.
So, you feel comfortable on the ground?
Anywhere.
Really?
Yeah, anywhere.
So, there's not like one zone where you go, that is where, because it seems like when it's striking, when it's the hands, and you get into that flow, I don't know, it just feels very good fun.
Bro, Max is one of the few guys I think we've had on that's fought Connor.
Oh, yeah, like could he hit hard?
I, I mean, I, that was at the time when I didn't say anything, bro.
I don't think he has a good chin, he's got a bad memory.
Yeah, I forget.
Maybe he hit so hard, I forgot.
Because that went five, yeah, uh, three, three, three, whatever, there, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was funny.
We was actually talking off camera about the moment.
He's like, What is there any funny moments in the fight?
Like, in that fight, the funny moment was he took me down, I was on, and then I had him in half-guard and he was passing, and I had like his ankle.
And right when he had passed, I like hit, and like I, that's how he hurt his knee in the fight.
He hurt his knee, and he screamed.
He went, ah, like a like a hurt, hurtful scream.
So, I'm like in there, I'm on there, I'm on the bottom holding him.
I was like, oh, you okay?
He's like, Yeah, yeah, keep fighting, mate.
I asked him, Are you okay?
And he's like, No, keep fighting.
I think you can, like, if you find it, I think it's like in the second round, like towards the ending of the second round, you can actually see me do this hip movement.
It's a funny movement, and then he screamed because you thought that he blew out his knee that he heard it, that he had hurt because he screamed, bro.
Do you have like compassion for the guys when you're in there?
I mean, I would like to think not, but I just asked the guy if his knee was like, I feel like you kind of like him.
Like, I like it.
You gotta like him.
You gotta respect.
I mean, you gotta respect anybody, you know, anybody that I think makes a walk to the octagon.
Yeah.
And then they're fighting, they're fighting me, you know.
Like, in my mind, I think I'm this person, the greatest ever, you know what I mean?
So, they got the ball.
For you to be here, it's like amazing.
It's like a respect thing, so it's awesome.
Okay, the Ortega thing when you grab the hand and kind of teach them how to fight.
Yeah, I was just telling him, brother, you know, I don't know who your coach is, but this is where this is where he belongs.
And then I threw a punch and I see Alex do not know those shit, bro.
There's a moment there's a moment where Max grabs his hand and places it here, and he's like, Leave it there so I don't keep punching you in the side of you.
So, during fights, you're like talking to yourself and then yo, and so some of the stuff is.
Sometimes I'm talking to a guy too, you know, or even like one fight I talked to the commentary because I could hear DC.
That was at like Fight Island.
I could hear, I could hear DC and some guys talking.
So, I was like, and then what they said, I was like, I was like, they was talking about counting it up.
So, I told them, count it up, count it up.
And then I did the, then I did a combination and thought I was the best boxer in the USC, baby.
Yo, you and DC need a show.
Yeah, that would be a fun podcast or something like that.
Yeah, you know, DC is a sellout.
Talk to us, bro.
Talk to us, Laura.
The RC is DC.
I don't even want a DC.
So I wanted to, I wanted the show with RC.
DC, like, actually, before that show happened, hit me up and he was like, look, look, Max, Edispin is coming to me.
They have a show idea.
You know, he was like, you know, people, let me talk about my best.
Like, he's like, that was the opening, whatever.
I was like, bro, I'm down.
But I'm like, but I told him, bro, like, I'm still fighting.
So, like, we got to just figure out a schedule.
Let me know.
And he's like, yeah, let you know.
It goes fucking quiet for weeks, you know what I mean?
Months.
Boom.
RC DC show.
I'm like, okay, DC, I see you.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, you know?
Wow, DC.
DC is the worst, bro.
Dude, he's the worst, bro.
He's lucky he's the heavyweight champion, something in the world.
Because other than that, you're nothing to me.
You think you got DC with the hands if it's just hands?
Brother, I got him the wrestling, the eating, whatever you want to.
I told DC, I'll fight him at heavyweight.
People think I'm...
It's a pig roast with DC, bro.
Brother, I'll do whatever he wants to do.
I heard the man is like trillion pounds.
We can fight it super heavyweight.
I don't care.
Show up.
Show up, DC.
Wherever you at.
Yo, we might have to replace RC, huh?
No, no, we replace DC.
RC.
Yo, RC and you.
RC is a great guy.
DC, we got.
I told DC, DC, enjoy everything you're having because, like, I want to fight for at least maybe six more years, five more years, you know, pushing it.
We see where the career goes.
But I told DC, you only really have that to have a career outside of fighting because after that, I'm going to take every single job.
Whatever job DC has, he wants to be a garbage man in his town.
I'm going to be yes.
I'm going to take his job.
I'm going to move there.
What days is the trash, guys?
Tuesday, Thursday.
Okay, I'm just moving there for that day.
I'm flying in, doing my job, moving.
You're commuting, bro.
Bro, I'm going to take DC job.
I don't think DC knows what's coming, bro.
Yeah, he doesn't.
He thinks it's all fun and games.
You lose your job, DC.
Yeah.
God damn.
He's sweet, bro.
The game.
I've never seen somebody dislike somebody, but do it in a pleasant way.
It's Hawaii, bro.
I love DC.
That's right, you know, but you got to pay.
Would you have gone to wherever they shoot the show?
Would you have like lived out of there or worked out of there?
I mean, that's the hard thing.
So at the end of the day, I think so they would have.
But then, no, it's not because DC does all the shows.
So they're both on Zoom.
Yeah.
So anyway, DC is a fraud, bro.
His background is a TV.
He changes any time.
Yeah.
DC calls me up, like, yo, Max.
So one day he's shooting the show.
Yo, Max, watch this.
I can change my background.
Look, I got a gym.
I got a bookshelf.
I got my belts.
I was like, DC, you're a fraud, bro.
I hung up the phone.
Let DC fraud hung up the phone.
Didn't talk to him.
That's just how it is.
That's your friendship with DC, bro.
You don't want to be friends with him.
He's a fraud.
The only time he hits up tamp for me is when he needs an interview.
I'm like, is that right?
DC.
Wow.
And then he gets all mad because I reached out to him and I said I wanted to come and do some wrestling with him, right?
Yeah.
And then he's like, yeah, let me know when it comes.
Then it comes to thinking, like, his teammate is Islam.
You know what I mean?
And like, one day, maybe I want to fight Islam.
So I can't be training with the guy.
So he's like, oh, tough on me.
Like, bro, you're supposed to come to the house.
We had great training.
I was like, brother, don't fall.
You'd be a spy for you.
Bro, you'd be a spy for Islam?
What's going on, bro?
If Islam and you was doing that show, I'm pretty sure you guys would have got him.
Would have been DC and Islam.
Wow.
You know, 100%.
Wow.
Guy on the loyalty.
DC getting exposed right now, bro.
Full exposure.
Yeah, DC, bro.
Sorry.
It would be a fight.
You and Islam.
Oh, bro.
I would love to fight that.
I would love to fight that.
I mean, we're supposed to fight Khabib here in Brooklyn, so why not?
You know?
Yeah, what happened?
Brother, the commission, the commission is what happened.
The athletic commission is what happens.
What was it?
Bro, I mean, you know, without saying nothing too crazy, that is, at that time, they were super hard against MMA about MMA coming over, right?
They finally got it, whatever.
And then I was freaking, you know, cutting weight.
They didn't like the way.
They didn't like the way I looked.
And they said, nah, he don't look good.
Okay, whatever.
What?
I'm like, I mean, how are you supposed to look when you're cutting weight?
Yeah.
I think so terrible.
Pretty sure he's supposed to look like death.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's not very body positive.
They look to you and they're like, eh.
And it doesn't help that I'm like six feet.
Yeah, that's it.
And that skinny little kid.
I look like Cleekly at the end of the day.
Yeah, dude.
That's with you, especially when you cut.
I don't see any bro.
Do you remember Antonio Morales?
Remember the boxer used to fight around like one.
Remember, am I getting it right?
Morales.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's Morales.
Yeah, he's a cheating fight night, bro.
My brother pick him.
Oh, he's going to get knocked up.
Fight Mike the video camera.
Yeah, bro.
That's not an actual funny.
But he looked, you guys looked the same when you're skinning kids, bro.
Yeah, but it gets all bone.
It's just in my cheeks, man.
I mean, I should start modeling.
That's how strong my cheek is.
Like, bro, boom, hit a pose.
Is it harder to cut the weight now that you're getting older?
I mean, not really.
Actually, it actually got easier.
Wow.
Yeah, before I met my wife, I was just like, Oh, because you were dieting.
I was like, go whatever, and do whatever.
Now she kind of keeps me easy, so it's like, it's much more easier, I would say.
Oh, because you walk around now.
Me, I walk around like maybe like around 60, 65, nothing crazy.
Oh, you stay in shape.
Yeah, I tried to.
Tried to.
Because you never know when you get a call.
You know what I mean?
Before I'd balloon up, bro.
I'd be like, I'm telling you guys, when I tell you guys, bro, that I would fight DC heavyweight.
I'm not joking.
I'm fighting.
If the money's right, brother.
What would it take?
In the alley.
Whatever.
What would it take to fight these two?
Brother.
How much?
Sounds like about 50 bucks.
How much?
No, no, no.
We need money, bro.
We need five mil.
Oh, that's a guarantee, brother.
That is a guarantee.
I think that would be kind of lowballing me and him.
So we'd probably go higher, but bro, we're in the meals, bro.
DC, I love you, bro.
We're going to fight each other.
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We'll be friends after.
We're going to be rich.
You just want to bulk up.
I think that's what it is, bro.
You just want to eat whatever you want.
Oh, yeah, bro.
Is there anybody who wouldn't fight?
Anybody?
Yeah.
I don't know, bro.
I'll fight anyone.
Why not?
There's nobody that you're like, okay, I'm terrified of this person, or I love this person so much, I don't know if I could build myself up to do it.
I don't think that's a problem for him.
No, I don't.
You can separate the two things.
You can like somebody.
If we're all getting rich, why not?
At least get some money, you know?
Yeah.
Like, like, like this, like, like, if, I mean, it's tough to say because I'm never in the situation, but if my teammate was the second best guy in the world and was fighting for each other, fighting, fuck, it sucks.
You got to find a new place to train.
But, bro, at the end of the day, if we can get it on, bro, we can fucking set up our both families.
Why not?
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
You want to feel bad, like, cracking your friend in the face?
Brother, we used to crack each other for free and sparring before, you know, before when I was training.
So it's like, now we get to get paid.
Why not?
You know?
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What's up, people?
We're going to keep this brief.
Austin, Texas.
That's right.
September 7th.
Me and Derek Poston are going to be there at the Vulcan Gas Company, 10 p.m. I think is the time.
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See that long-ass foot?
You know what that means, ladies?
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Get the tickets.
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What that mouth do when the horizontal little duvel?
We'll edit that part out.
And then September 28th, Toronto, Canada.
Yes.
Right before Derek Post and I are doing Scotiabank Arena with our boy Andrew Schultz.
We're going to the comedy bar Danforth.
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Check it out.
Hey, north of the border.
Why don't you go a little bit south of the border on our boy?
You know what I'm saying?
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People brought this up in Brea and it was honestly uncomfortable.
So we're going to cut that out, okay?
Let's get back to the show.
You don't spar anymore?
That's real?
Yeah, I don't spar.
We do movement sparring now.
But it's never like...
You know, like, you ever watch Thai spar?
No.
Like, like, Thai people?
Watch how they spar.
It's like real, it's real, like, speed, but it's not power.
You know what I mean?
Like, we're not taking it.
Are you touching each other?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're touching each other here and there.
I stopped when it was like the whole pandemic because we couldn't see anybody.
So I really wasn't sparring for those fights.
There's a crazy story about you training during the pandemic.
Is this true that you trained on Zoom?
Oh, yeah, bro.
100%.
Bro, I didn't.
Because then they was taking...
No, there was taking, bro.
You know what they was doing?
No, you know, Auggie T?
I'm sure you guys know Augie T. He's like a Hawaiian comedian.
What's his name?
Augie T.
Oh, not Augie T. Not Augie T.
It's not Augie T. Lanai?
No, not Lanai.
It's not Lanai Augie.
But I'm just Tumua?
No, not Tumua.
It's this other guy.
Bro, I just named so many Hawaiian comedians.
I know, I know.
It's this old guy.
It's this old guy.
And I'm like, he got put in jail for being out.
Wait, really?
Yeah, like they was arresting people.
If you was out of your house at a certain time and they saw you doing shit, whatever, that you're not supposed to do.
Like if you go to like, say, your building, whatever, that your job, you're not supposed to be there, right?
Or whatever.
So that's crazy.
I have like the loudest red car there is.
So they already know that my car.
I mean, the cops probably know my car because they see it.
It's just a loud ass car.
So at the end of the day.
Wait, what is it?
What's the car?
It's like a freaking, it's like a matte with a matte red, but it's shiny.
It's had like a chrome finish.
What kind of car?
What kind of car?
It's a Tesla.
An electric car, right?
Yeah, Tesla loud.
It's the quietest car.
It's the quietest.
But the color is the loudest car ever.
The car is the loudest car ever, bro.
It's literally a silent car, bro.
It looks like a fucking Christmas ornament.
And you saw a car.
It's like, damn, this looked like a Christmas.
This belongs on a Christmas tree.
So it's like, bro, I'm not going to put...
And then there was getting arrested.
What kind of car is it?
It's like a red, like a real, yo, a bright red, like a real chick, bro.
Like a fucking.
Absolutely.
And shiny at the same time.
I said shiny.
Brother, it is.
You just say a word like that.
I'll show you.
I'll show you.
I'll show you after.
But yeah, there was like...
So they arrested him for being outside.
They arrested some Filipino freaking gambling store.
Gambling ring.
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And why not?
Filipino.
Gambling ring and why not?
Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.
That's my favorite gambling ring.
I love the Filipinos.
We go right after the cockfight.
We go right to the cockfight.
We go right to the gambling.
And then even like some of the freaking UH football players is getting arrested.
They're out.
Really?
Yeah, they were just getting arrested.
I was like, fuck this.
I ain't getting arrested.
I ain't going to make no news like this.
This is some bullshit, you know?
So you just stay in the crib.
Yeah, how do you train on Zoom?
What's that like?
I just was asking for, I actually had a, I had a friend that lived in me.
So most of my drills, I could do them with him anyway, because we had a mat.
And then, and most of the Zoom training was just them telling me, we just was going over certain, like our game plan for certain fighters, you know, and then what drills I need to be doing.
And then most of them was just making sure I was training.
You know, like a lot of times, like, they just wanted to see.
You are not training, you know.
Like, turn on your camera.
You know what I mean?
We tried to get away with not putting the camera on sometimes, but so you have you have like a treadmill?
Like, how are you getting the cardio in?
I was just, I was just running outside on the road, okay, like right in front of my house, just up and down, just back and forth, just sprints, trying to trying to bounce.
We had like a little heel, so we're trying to do it like gaming too much, so you'd probably be like, Yo, I'm training right now, and then they see you on Twitch just streaming this shit.
Technically, snitch on yourself.
That technically is training hand-eye carnation.
You know, it's not good for my back because I'm hunching over so much.
But is it true that I think you were saying that on Rogan that you use the game to prepare for opponents?
Yeah, so no, no, I didn't use them to prepare for opponents.
So, what happened was when UFC2 came out, I was playing it right, and I'll use Barrel and Hennon, and bro, there was like some moves I was pushing together.
I was like, Holy shit, this move is actually working.
And it would go and we just do it.
Like, me and Dustin Kimura at the time, he was he he was a UFC vet, but me and him was like we'd hold mitts, I would hold mitts for him, and hopefully, he'd hold mitts for me, you know, like I'll teach him because we didn't have striking coach.
So, I was like, Oh, look, bro, let's do this.
So, we named couple Aldo, we named couple, like, we had a combination that was called the Hennon, so like all secret words, so it was pretty cool, yeah, yeah.
So, it actually actually helped.
Oh, yeah, I mean, helped me give me ideas of starting striking.
I didn't learn how to throw one-two from it.
It was like, Oh my god, you learned fighting.
I'm like, I knew how to fight, I just learned new combinations.
How effective are those moves in real fights?
Pretty good, yeah.
One of them was like, I used to do this move, it was kind of irritating with Hennon in it, was like a jab and a front kick to the face at the same time.
So, you jab and I'd jab, front kick it in the face at the same time, same exact time, you know what I mean?
So, it's like that was pretty good.
Aldo one was the regular Aldo, like a body shot, the leg kick, so it's fine.
Is there ever a time where you're like in your whole career where you've thought, I'd like to do one training camp at a traditional gym like in Florida or in one of these things?
Never, you never want to be away from home, never, bro, never because I uh the pressure of being home and being that famous and having all these people, no, no pressure, bro.
I felt no pressure, no pressure.
Because I, at the end of the day, was anything I felt I was like, I it was like a big F you to everybody because everybody, when I told everybody what I want to do and how I want to do it, they're like, Oh, you're gonna have to move to the mainland to do that, to to to hit the level that I want to hit.
Because I was telling them what I wanted to do, and I was like, No, you don't.
All you need is a good bunch of guys that's willing to learn willing to train.
They don't even have to be the best guys in the world.
If you guys all have the same idea, the same stuff, uh, same end goal, it's gonna happen sooner or later, you know.
And we did, it was like a big F you to everybody because people are like, No, you gotta go to the mainland, you gotta train this big guys, you gotta, you gotta fly people in the train and blah blah blah, this and that.
And then I remember getting flown out by uh Jeremy Stevens, he was getting he was getting fighting Anthony Pettis.
Yeah, so this is a long time ago, he flew me out, and I was thinking, like, oh, this is what this is like, I can't wait to see you out for sparring for sparring, yeah.
So, I lived with him for like four weeks.
Oh, but but yeah, that's that'd be that's rough, yeah.
So, I was like, I was like, Yeah, let's do it.
So, I, in my mind, I think, like, okay, we're gonna see what this gym, you know what I mean, like what this mainland guy is talking about, yeah, yeah.
And I'm like, brother, this is just like any fucking gym in Hawaii, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, we all training, everybody training.
Were you fucking everybody up?
I was doing all right, I was holding my own.
There was like, there was like, I was getting taken down a bunch, like, there was just like I had no wrestling at the time, right?
So, everybody was like, if I had my way in the feet, I started getting taken down and they just like roll, like, hold down or rolled up on the ground.
So, but I was thinking, like, I was waiting for this whole different idea of mainland training, you know, because it's like so much people is instilling this in me.
Like, you got to go do this, you got to do that.
I feel like I feel like they do that a lot of times, and it's not just in Hawaii, but it's also like if you're from a place that's close to a big city.
So like if you grow up in like Philly, for example, they'll be like, oh, well, you want to go, you know, be in finance, you got to go to New York.
And I feel like they do this why all the time.
It's like, oh, well, if you really want to go make some of yourself, you've got to go to the mainland.
So I wonder if there is a little ego about that.
Like, no, I could be the greatest in the world and not fucking leave here.
Oh, was the ego?
Yeah, 100%, bro.
I mean, being from Wai-Nai too is we're the biggest egotistical guys ever.
Wait, really?
Yeah, bro.
Everybody's this testosterone, bro.
You know what I mean?
I wanted to make sure I could fight, bro.
That says something, you know?
So at the end of the day, I just wanted to prove people wrong.
But without feeling bad for myself, I was talking to someone off screen and I was just saying, like, that's just how it is.
Like, I thought so you victimized.
I victimized myself a lot.
You know what I mean?
Just being like, I thought I was old something in this world.
Like, I just thought I was old, old something in this world.
And being from Wai Nai, I felt like you guys got to give me a little bit more attention because I'm from there.
And then when I actually went to the World World and realized that, like, oh, shit, I ain't own anything.
If you want anything in this life, you go work hard for it.
So that's what I was trying to tell the kids that's coming up right now in Wai Nai.
You know, right now we're actually working with the USC.
Hopefully we can do something with the Boys and Girls Club where we're opening where we're trying to open a little gym facility so someone can train and stuff and just let people know.
I'm from here.
I remember going back to the intermediate for career day.
And I remember going back to when I talked there, they put me in my old science class.
And my science teacher stood there, Mr. Smotis.
I was an idiot.
I was a hothead kid.
I always got into trouble.
I was my freaking best, my favorite chair in the whole seat was next to the vice principal.
You know what I mean?
This is what it was.
And I told the kids, like, look, it's not how you start.
It's how you finish.
If I can do this, why not you guys?
You know what I mean?
I just believed in myself and I did it.
You know, I changed my ninth grade is where it really, where it really mattered.
You know, I remember I went to my grandma.
I told her, I want to play baseball.
Like, I wanted to play baseball.
Like, that was my thing.
She's like, oh, yeah.
How you can play baseball?
We have no money to send you to college.
So you need a scholarship, right?
And then I was like, okay.
So I ended up doing good grades.
I ended up graduating with culada.
Get out of here.
Yeah, it's not a great thing to say because at the end of the day, I just had a lot of help, bro.
And I figured out if you sat next to the smartest guy in class and kept asking them questions, they'd get frustrated to the point where they'd grab your paper, bro.
I was like, thank you, my friend, you know.
Thank God for the Micronesians, bro.
They were next to me the whole time.
They're the best, bro.
They're the best.
And then even I had great teachers, bro.
Like my ninth grade teacher, like, I had a hard time in math.
And Mr. Gray, he had like, we had this recess where it was like 15 minutes and then a 30-minute lunch.
Like the 15 minutes or the 30-minute lunch, he'd always tell me, always come back.
I'll help you with your work.
So he was a super cool teacher.
A bunch of guys.
That's really cool.
What's up, everybody?
I hope you're enjoying the episode with Hawaiian Legends, Max Holloway.
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Peace.
I'm curious.
Do you remember the first time you went to the mainland?
First time?
Yeah, how old were you?
The first time I went to the mainland was In Iowa, I was 18.
I just graduated school.
We went to this town called Crescent, Iowa, bro.
I went out there because the opportunity was like, this guy was telling us, my trainer at the time, my old trainer, was like, they were saying, oh, look, you could, we're going to open up this gym, you guys run it, whatever.
And my trainer hit me up.
I was just graduating.
He's like, I wasn't going to college.
That's why, right?
I wanted to fight.
And he was like, look, there's this opportunity.
They're going to open up a gym.
We can run it.
Blah, blah, blah.
Let's go.
Let's go out for a couple of months and see how we like it.
We went out there, bro.
My trainer ended up not even coming.
You know what I mean?
So it's just me because he's like, oh, come, I'll come up like a, I'll come up a week later.
He ended up getting a girlfriend.
Never came, bro.
Yo, you got a history of friends letting you bronzer.
What is up with that?
First DC.
I know how to pick him, bro.
Bro, how was the girl though?
Fine?
I have, he's not even with him.
So I'm not even friends with the guy anymore because we had a falling out.
So but he ended up not even being with him, you know.
But I but I ended up staying out there for four months and was for training and stuff.
So I was 17.
Over there, I was, we knew the guys who was running the MMA stuff.
So I could lie, I was 18.
I had my first MMA fights out there and it was during like September, October, November, December.
So it was during September.
And the guy I was staying with was his friend, you know.
And the house we were staying at, bro, didn't have a heater.
So we had like a freaking snowstorm too during it.
First time seeing something.
Yeah, fuck, bro.
You know what Ice Palace is in Hawaii?
The ice rink?
Is that a strip club?
No, it's just an ice rink.
It's an ice rink, bro.
Ice skating rink, right?
I had to fucking dress like I was going to the fucking ice cream rink every night because I'm from Hawaii and I'm freezing.
We don't have a fucking heater in the house.
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
You know, and like, I remember just thinking, like, oh shit, this is crazy.
And then when we went out there in September, the gym was supposed to happen in like October.
And then, and then when October came, oh, the gym is gonna happen in November.
And it kept getting put, it wasn't gonna happen.
And then December, they asked me, oh, you want to go back home?
You want to go back home, see your family?
I was like, bro, if you send me back home, I'm not coming.
I was like, if you send me back home on a return flight, I'm not coming back.
He's like, nah, no worries, no worries.
I'll fly you guys up with this.
I was like, brother, I see his name is Will, our friend's name.
I was like, brother, Will.
I don't know when I see you, but I'm probably going to see you in Hawaii because I ain't never come back to Iowa.
And I was like, no, I'm not coming back.
Was it really culturally different?
Like while you were there, or did it feel similar?
Brother, it's different.
It's holding it.
I remember October.
We were driving during Halloween.
And after Halloween, I was driving down the road and I see fucking house teepeed and everything.
I was like, holy shit, I thought this only happened on Disney Champions.
I thought this was fake.
I thought only this only happened in a movie.
Who the fuck really fucking teepees a whole fucking house, bro?
My friend's house got like, his parents' house got like teepeed the shit out of eggs.
I was like, and then kids, like, it was like, it was like a Disney channel, bro.
Like, kids like arguing about stuff and like meeting up.
I just saw high school, right?
And you see these kids, these high school kids, like meeting up, arguing, because I made friends at some high schoolers, you know, like guys who's graduated like 12th grade.
And like, I was like, what the, what the hell is this?
This is like Disney Channel.
Like, I'm in a Disney Channel movie.
I was like, bro, this is crazy.
Yo, how much is America that we'll just TP your house?
Like, a lot of countries don't have toilet paper at all.
We're like, let's just throw that shit in the tree.
Egging a house.
We're going to waste food to ruin someone's paint.
Like, it's crazy.
Crazy, bro.
Did you ever get in on it, though?
No, I never did.
I never did.
I never.
Yeah.
Like, I didn't think of wasting food or wasting toilet paper.
You know what I mean?
I was like, bro, toilet paper is meant to wipe my butt.
And then I was just thinking, like, I was putting myself in them.
I was like, you know how hard is that to clean that shit?
Holy bro.
Like, the trees is hot.
So at first, I'm thinking, like, you know how much you got to clean.
And then I'm thinking, like, whose arm is throwing that?
Get him in the league, baby.
Let's go.
Yeah.
So it's a, it's crazy, bro.
What about the Midwest girls?
Is that the first time you ever like hooked up with a girl from my brother?
I was, I mean, they wasn't my team.
Yeah, that's right, dude.
You probably don't know about thick white women because we got that too.
Yeah, I was like, that was my tape.
I was just so used to Hawaiian girls.
So when I saw that, I was like, what is this?
You know?
Yeah.
This is different.
Those are the real pogs you got to fight over.
Those are the real ones.
Did you get after it?
No, no, I was chilling.
I was, bro.
I was up there just trying to work and train.
And I just wanted to fight, bro.
I was like...
What was the job?
We were just going to be trainers, bro.
I was going to run a kickboxing club.
Yeah, I was going to run a kickboxing.
It never opened.
That never ever happened to today, bro.
Okay.
So I know that there's no such thing as Filipino gambling rings and why not, but if I know that they don't have my imagination and nobody knows about it.
Yeah, bro.
It's a fake world.
It's a fake world, right?
And I know that there's no cockfights there still to this day.
No, nothing.
That was so back in the day, bro.
I remember what you talked about.
Only human cockpits.
Not chicken.
Why would you try to kill a chicken?
We have a fight club, bro.
Come on.
But was that a thing way back in the day?
Was that like part of it growing up?
But I.
This is hard-hitting journalism.
It is, bro.
It is.
It's crazy, bro.
It's crazy, but I always didn't want to get involved in it because the story that you hear that happens at that thing, I'm like, fuck this.
Brother, crazy stuff happened, bro.
You had a fucking illegal rink.
What do you think going to happen?
Oh, okay.
So illegal shit.
Yeah, so I'm like, bro, I'm good.
I ain't trying to get busted.
Fair enough, bro.
Keep me out of this shit.
One of the things that when we were in Hawaii last time that I love that I've used since is when you're at the late night spot after they've stopped serving alcohol, you ask for cold soup at the Korean spot.
Have you ever used that?
I have never ever used that.
That's beer.
You ask for cold soup, even when they stop serving.
Oh, for real?
You never used that one?
No, I never did.
I'm not.
Bro, I thought that this was like everybody.
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No, no.
I thought this was some Hawaiian shit.
No, after the lights come on and everybody starts looking wild and shit, I'm going home.
I am going, because like, bro, when you see your friend after, what, three o'clock, four o'clock, they close.
Anything after that, anything after 12 is crazy.
So when you're at four to a spot, it's like, brother, we need to go back to the hotel room because we're going to end up on someone's IG or you don't know what somebody dancing in the background.
It's facts.
You know, it's like, come on, shit.
Do you ever worry about that?
You ever worry like getting caught up in, you know, you know, I don't know, how do I say it?
Like people trying to like get clout off of you back home.
Like people trying to videotape you at the supermarket.
People trying to like...
Bro, it's, I mean, it comes with a job, but then like, there's certain times where, come on, you know, like you're with your kid.
Yeah, yeah, you don't do this, you know.
The worst is like, to me, I mean, I'm sure it happens to you guys all the time.
It's like you're eating dinner.
Oh, sorry to sorry to interrupt you, but can we take a picture and eat your dinner?
I was like, no, you're not sorry.
You're right here.
You're thinking of it.
Maybe you're maybe your spirit or something sorry, but you're not sorry.
It's funny, but it comes with a job.
I mean, that's the price you pay, you know?
You must get approached all the time because you're a local celebrity in your town.
Or they're used to him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In my town, it's fine.
But then when we go out towards the town and then people is like flying in and they see us, then that's when it's like, ah, I can't.
But people think there's a more famous Hawaiian alive right now.
That still lives out there?
No, that's just like over the rainbow guy.
Is he still alive?
No, no, no.
No, Ian Tonky, my name is.
Do you know him?
Do you know Ian?
I don't know him.
Dude, I got like emotional.
He's fucking crying.
The American Idol dude, the kid who just won.
But he is like the reincarnation of Brother Is, bro.
The way he can.
I haven't heard of this.
The way he can.
You saw I posted it.
He was on American Idol.
He won.
He was a big Hawaiian dude and he was playing this parlor guitar and he sang.
What was the song?
Oh, fuck.
What was the guy's name?
God, what's the fucking song?
The most recent.
The Iam sing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The one with James Blunt?
James Blunt.
This is James Blunt.
The Monsters.
I think it's called Monsters, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, when he sing that with his dad, it's for his dad.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
But I think, I think he's the reincarnation.
I mean, I hate when people compare me to another fighter or whatever, but I mean, like, Ian, the way when I listened to him, I didn't hear no one move me the way he does, just like how Brother Is did.
Like, Brother is like somewhere over the rainbow is just amazing.
And I think so.
Ian is going to come up with a song that is like going to be on that level, I believe.
Because the way he sings, it's just, I mean, there's not one song that he did not sing that people didn't cry.
It's crazy.
He had people crying the whole season.
The guy's voice is just, it's special, man.
It's special.
Every one of the judges.
I can't believe you didn't see it.
I need to see this happen.
Bro, it is.
You're going to love it, bro.
Oh, my God.
And then he did that to get on the show.
And then he actually did it with James Blunt.
Oh, I saw the live debt with James Blunt.
And when he sang that song was even more crazy because James Blunt put his hand on him to help him because he couldn't sing it.
And then James Blunt touched him and he ended up pulling to the singer, which is just crazy.
I still feel a lot of pride seeing Hawaiians make it anyway.
Oh, for sure.
With everything, you know?
I have to play this now.
Just cry with the boys or something.
Yeah, we're going to have to watch this.
It's good, dude.
Because, yeah, I've never heard this guy.
Iam Tongi is his name.
Tongi.
Where is he from?
Where is he from?
He is from Oahu on the opposite side of the island of me.
So like I'm in Wai Nai, he's on the north shore, Kahuku side.
So there's a mountain that separates us pretty much.
Oh, you said there's a lot of white people coming to the area.
I thought Hawaii has this rule where it's like, no, no, no.
Go to the Hawaiians can buy.
So we do have a Hawaiian.
We do have a, like you said, like.
What is that rule?
It's you got to be a certain amount of Hawaiian to buy on the Hawaiian land or whatever, but it's like.
People find a way, bro.
It's bullshit, bro.
How are people getting around it?
It's crazy.
It's like, it's like you, it's like you only own, you're leasing the land for 100 years.
That's what it is.
So the Hawaiian, the Hawaiian thing is like, you're just leasing that land for 100 years and then you got to give it to somebody else that meet the qualifications of like you'll be a certain part of Hawaiian and then you get it for 100 more years again.
But that's just all it is.
It's like it's not even yours because they can just come in and just be like, no, we choose, we feel like taking it.
But how are white people buying glory?
Bro, that money, money, man.
Money freaking talks, I think.
There's that guy, Larry Ellison, who bought the whole island in Lanai for the money.
Lanai, yeah, almost, yeah.
Crazy.
Almost, bro.
It's crazy.
And there was a whole thing with the telescope, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With Protect TMT, they're trying to put bigger telescopes on top of it and stuff.
But it's crazy, man.
It's a wild time we're living.
But yeah, this is Ian.
Okay.
This is his audition.
For they turn off all the lights.
Oh, my God.
Second guy.
Wow.
He's amazing, man.
So raw.
He's amazing, bro.
That's crazy.
He's a man.
Bro, he's special, bro.
He's special.
I've been like, it was crazy when he was doing it.
He did this tour and stuff.
And he's such a young kid, right?
And then when he came back, he did the finale stuff.
And I was just like, man, this kid's special, man.
You know, I hope he's around the right people around him to let them know what is wrong, what is right.
And he just stay on that pack because he's going to be somebody special.
He's big.
He's going to be big, bro.
Have you met him in person?
I didn't meet him.
No, the day they had that concert for him, I flew in later in that night from Japan.
So I was like, oh, man, I missed him.
But I'm sure we're going to cross paths.
Whenever we cross paths, it happens.
I'm not going to force nothing, but because I just want to meet him genuinely, man.
That guy is.
That was unbelievable.
Yeah, crazy.
You got to watch the one when he actually sings with James Blood.
It's freaking crazy, bro.
When him and James Blunt singing together, it's like even more insane.
His voice is way more refined and everything when he did it with James Blunt the second time.
So it's just amazing.
I mean, that was so wrong.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
It was beautiful.
Wow.
It's beautiful, man.
Okay, I don't know how we're going to transition from this into some breaking news, but we have to do it.
We have an exclusive right now that maybe by the time this comes out will not be exclusive, but in the moment, it is exclusive.
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Yes, sir.
And who do we have?
Korean zombie.
Korean zombie in Singapore.
So I'm excited, bro.
I'm excited, bro.
I'm excited, bro.
He's been, that's one of the guys that.
That song before the fight he did.
Oh, fucked up.
Nothing.
It might be a good idea.
I like your mental welfare.
You got to walk out to that shit.
Yeah, you walk out with him.
I might cry.
I got to actually, if I walk into that song, I got to like, you got to have the earphones in.
You got to lock away for that one.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Okay.
So, Korean zombie, this is there's, I think there are very few more where there are very few fights in MMA that are offering guaranteed fireworks like this fight.
Insane.
Yep.
Excitement.
People don't know yet.
Do you need to get up for a fight like this?
Do you need to like is this something you've looked for for years?
Like, how do you get yourself in a position where you're like, you know what?
I really want this.
You've been fighting for the belt non-stop for the last, how many years?
Forever, it feels like, bro.
Right?
But it is what it is, bro.
You know, at the end of the day, the whole, everybody asks me, oh, where's your mind at?
What is your, what is your drive?
What is your push?
And like, bro, at the end of the day, I'm going to go out there.
I'm going to fight in front of potentially millions of people.
So I just don't want to get my ass kicked in front of millions of people.
You know, I don't want to become a meme.
I don't want people to be harassing me.
So at the end of the day, this is another fight.
You know, I've been watching Corinne forever since he's WEC.
You know, he's like one of those guys, like, like Odo.
Yeah.
You know, you know, Odo, I fought Germany.
You know what I mean?
But Ricardo Lamas, you know, Dustin Poir.
So there's all these guys that like, these are the guys I used to watch.
So these are the guys that, yeah, if I ever had the shot to fight him, if they stood around, they fight him.
And he stood around, you know, he still wanted to consider one of the best guys in the world.
So it makes sense.
Yeah.
Now that's going to be a crazy fight.
And his last fight was Volk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Volk was pretty dominant.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you want another crack at Volk?
Oh, 100%, bro.
I was telling Tim, bro, like, it sucks that we, it just keeps happening.
But like, if I was, if the roles was reverse, I get it, bro.
You know, we're the best in the world.
I just want to fight the best guy in the world, you know?
So I mean, if you see the woman to fight Volk, start giving me, stop giving me these freaking these contenders.
Give me somebody else or something.
Let's go make fun fights.
Let's make another belt, you know, most talkative motherfucking thing you've seen.
Give me another belt, you know?
But at the end of the day, I'm going to be there.
I would love to fight him.
He's one of the best guys in the world.
And being able to share the octagon with him again for however, we got to get away from that.
I think he could have done differently after the last one.
I mean, it just happened, bro.
This is his night, bro.
There's nothing.
I would change nothing, bro.
Everything happened.
I did a great training camp, but my mental is great.
He just went out there.
He did his thing, bro.
I hate.
I hate when, like, I remember having my breakout fight in New Jersey, actually, against Cub Swanson.
And I hate when people is like, oh, that doesn't look like the Cub Swanson of the world.
They try to take away.
I hate when guys, even when they say, oh, I didn't feel right.
Like, I went in there.
We all get injuries.
We all have something.
We have personal shit going on.
Of course.
He just went out there.
He showed up that night.
You know what I mean?
I showed up too, but he just fucking did better.
I'm not going to stay that way from him.
At the end of the day, we freaking, we figured it out.
I'll get back to there.
And if we can fight again, we fight again.
It was interesting, your trilogy, because I feel like each of you made adjustments.
Like, fight one to fight two, you made big adjustments.
Like, first two rounds, easy.
You're walking around.
It was good.
I actually had you winning the second fight.
I know that was a really close fight.
But I had you win the second fight because you made those adjustments.
Then three, it feels like he made those adjustments.
And I feel like it's ping pong with you guys.
Like, I feel like next.
Best in the world, bro.
When you're the best in the world, the only thing that separates you is when I tell people everything.
The only thing that separates me from somebody who's not in the UFC is just I know how to put things together a little bit or I know how to mentally play that mental game.
And that's why I tell everybody, all the uppercomers, they're like, oh, what is your secret?
Blah, blah, blah.
I ain't got no secret.
I was like, bro, everybody in the UFC knows how to troll one-two, know how to block a one-two.
Except for Ortega at the time.
All jokes, all jokes.
But at the end of the day, I just keep telling people, like, bro, everybody knows how to do everything.
It's just who's going to apply their game plan first and be constant on it, you know?
And that's what I said.
Like, I'm no different than anybody.
The only difference between the top 15 fighters and the rest of the UFC is they know how to put it together.
It's a mind thing, you know?
And then you go up to the 10, mind thing, five, mind thing.
And then the champion, it's just a mind thing.
You cannot say anybody's, like, we all know how to fight, you know, at the end of the day, it's just who's putting it together.
Mind thing, by that, you mean game plan?
You mean preparation, how to take that person?
Preparation, and just showing up.
You know what I mean?
Like, most of the time, half of these guys beat themselves before they even step in, knock down with someone.
Yeah, how so?
They just beat themselves.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, the moment gets to them.
The moment gets to them, you know, like when I fought.
You could tell they're nervous.
Yeah, or something's going on, you know.
I remember when I fought Dustin Poirier, the first fight, my UFC event, you know, my first ever UFC event.
We was the headline at the time was the FX card.
So right before the pay-per-view, we go there early.
I mean, I see people, Stephen Thompson was like the second fighter night or third fight.
I forget what fight it was, but it was so empty.
I remember watching this fight.
I was like, oh, yeah, they showed a crowd.
It's empty.
I was like, holy shit, this is like fighting in Hawaii, you know, like there's nothing.
I remember I had a famous boxer, a famous Hawaiian boxer in my corner.
His name was Jesus Salute.
Okay.
Yeah, the Hawaiian punch, they used to call him.
But the original.
He's another Hawaiian punch.
Yeah, he was the original Hawaiian punch.
So Ryan got the Brian got it after him.
After Jesus Salute.
Go look him up.
Yeah.
So Jesus is a man and he was like, he's been there.
So he's like telling me, Max, when this lights go on, just stay calm, stay calm, stay calm.
And I was thinking, yeah, I got this.
No worry.
No worry.
Fucking lights went on.
I was like 200 miles per hour, bro.
The freaking, this is right before the main card.
So every seat was filled.
He had a layer.
I remember being in there and just thinking, like, just thinking when Bruce was introducing me, like, saying my name, like, my knees is weak.
I was like, holy fuck.
I was like, bro, you can't be fainting, Max.
You're on fucking TV.
You know what I mean?
Like, I was like, what the hell?
So a moment got to me, you know, a little bit.
And then I remember fight week two, I saw George St. Pierre.
I saw Anderson Silva.
I saw Jose Aldo, Frankie, like, who's who?
Like, all these guys that I wanted to.
And I remember being back, being in the back after I lost.
I lost.
I did.
I had, I looked good in the feet.
I got took it down and he like triangle armbarred me from the top, which is crazy.
Like he triangled armbar me from the top.
So yeah, and I was like, what the hell?
Now I remember sitting in the back and thinking to myself, like, fuck this.
I was like, why are you acting like this?
Why are you acting so starstruck around these guys?
Like, you're a UFC fighter.
You belong here.
Fucking act like it.
So like for now, like I don't ask, I don't really ask too much people for pictures or whatever.
Cause in my mind, like I can do that when I'm done, you know, when I, when I, when I can take it in, you know what I mean?
But right now it's a game time.
Like even the same with all the, like I have titles, like everybody's like, oh, why don't you have your titles like put around the house and blah, blah, this and that.
I was like, I still fighting, that's why.
And they don't understand it.
It's like, what do you mean?
I was like, I'm still fighting.
Don't focus on what you did.
Yeah, yeah.
I still want to do this.
You know, like, I'll bring out all the belts and stuff when I retire and I can celebrate them.
Right now, there's no celebration.
It's a freaking grind all the way through, you know?
Do you have a specific pre-fight ritual now to keep you in the moment?
Bro, the pre-fight ritual, not really.
I'm just sitting in the back.
And I mean, I get nervous, bro.
If somebody tells you, I mean, I'm sure, do you get nervous before going on stage when you're doing a show or something?
But I think the bigger the event, the more anxiety can have.
For sure, you know what I mean?
And that's how you're supposed to feel.
I think.
If you don't feel anything, you're not human.
You're not human.
And you never do the work.
I was like, bro, if you don't feel nothing, I tell them, bro, you didn't do enough work.
You didn't know.
Like, I sacrificed so much.
That's the time I get nervous.
I'm like, fuck, what if I let people down?
My mind is like, what if I let this guy down?
Like, I missed my son's birthday.
I missed my wife's birthday.
Yeah, this can't be forgotten.
Yeah, this can't be nothing.
I got to go out there and fucking give him my all.
And then if I do end up on the bad side, at least I can look myself and look at my loved one and tell them, look, I gave him my all.
It was just this, that guy was just better than me on that night.
So for sure, you know, I get nervous, bro.
Like, I remember, this is the thing that I always do.
Like, I'm in the back.
I'm just in my mind.
I'm in my head.
And I'm just thinking, like, damn, hold your next, Max.
Let's go.
And I start thinking, like, what the?
Like, in my mind, I started thinking, like, what the frick am I doing?
Are we here again?
I told myself last time I was going to be here.
And then I'm going like, fuck, you can just work at McDonald's or something.
Live an easy life.
And then I think, like, fuck no, you can't do it.
You can't do that shit.
The life you want to live costs money.
It's like, go out there and get yourself, get yourself out there.
So that's the little prep talk I kind of talk to myself.
I always like, I knock myself down there.
I build myself up.
Like, this is time.
And then by the time we walk, I hear my song.
It's like, it's go time, right?
So once you hear the song and you're already walking, you're in fight mode.
Oh, yeah, bro.
Once the walkout, I stay in the back of looking at my coaches smiling, talking to him, and telling him, brother, it's another one.
And then they would tell me, yeah, let's go, Todd.
Do you feel like Bruce is calling your name now?
Bro, I'm just stoked, bro.
In my mind now, I'm like, Bruce, hurry, hurry up.
Like, rock this up, bro.
I just want to fall.
He got to be all the sponsors and stuff.
Shout out to Spider-Man.
Come on, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, yo, like, freaking.
You're just saying it's time.
You know, they're saying Tom, you know what I mean?
Like, what's that about?
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So, nowadays, it's like, come on, Bruce, bro.
Let me punch this guy in the face.
Let me bang.
What's the song?
What's the song you always come out to?
I walk up to uh, I do an ed, and then I always end it with Hawaiian kickboxer.
Yeah, there's a there's a guy from uh from why and I he made the song Mokey Boy.
His name is called Mokey Boy, and uh, it was funny because his dad is actually my uh, he's the janitor.
His dad was the janitor at the elementary I went to, yeah, pretty cool.
He saw then we have home ties, and yeah, he's from Martan.
I'm friends with the guy who sings the song, so it's great.
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He keeps on like telling me, I want to change the song, Max.
I want to change the song, I want to make it a little bit more poppy or more hip-hop.
I was like, Frick no, I'm not going to walk up to it.
I was like, Please do not change this song.
I'm not going to walk up to it.
This is the song I want, you know?
Wow, did you find the Apex when it was empty?
Uh, no, I never fought.
I fought in the I fought a year in the Apex when uh but they had some crowd, but when we had the crowd, and these motherfuckers sell those tickets the most expensive, wasn't even a belt fight, and they made those tickets expensive.
How crazy is that?
Yeah, how much is the setting changing for you, like fighting in Singapore versus the States?
Bro, I don't care, bro.
I just'm here to fight.
I know what I got to do.
Like, even like everybody's like, oh, it's gonna be weird fighting in front of that.
I was like, Not really.
It's only me and him trying to hit it, you know, kill each other.
You know what I mean?
Knocks our head off.
So, it's like, as long as it, as long as Dana signed the checks or whoever it is, sign a check, it's a lot of zeros at the end.
Like I said, I'll fight you in the alleyway, bro.
What about at home?
What about a fight at home?
Brother, brother, I would love to fight in Hawaii.
When is that, bro?
I can't believe that hasn't happened, bro.
I, it's not even a UFC thing, it's a Hawaii thing.
I've been telling people, bro, it's a it's a Hawaii uh terrorism, uh, tourism authority, it's the HTA, and they just refuse to allow it, yeah.
They just, they, it's funny because they said something to the football stadium, bro.
Brother, brother, they said y'all already fight locally for free.
What's the problem?
The HTA, we have we have two, we have two sports there.
We only have two professional sports in Hawaii, bro, and that's fighting and that's surfing, bro.
Yeah, and they, and the two most problems they give the sports, two biggest sports they give up to is fighting and surfing.
And they have we have a freaking Olympian, Carissa Moore, you know what I mean?
Like, she's an Olympian, a gold medals Olympian surfing, and multiple world champion.
We have a John John Florence, multiple world champions surfing, and they just give them a hard time.
I remember during the pandemic, it's like really, like, you told people they could go to the beach and surf, but they wouldn't give them the permits to let them surf during the tour.
I was like, bro, this makes no sense, you know, allowed to be in the water unless it's for an event, yeah.
And then, and then, and then, um, even with fighting, it's like, oh, uh, I think so.
When we was trying to, when we, I, we actually reached out to the PR team or whatever, and their PR team reached out.
Like, this is a couple years ago.
They said, like, we don't want to attract that kind of fan base here.
And I was like, I was like, wait, I was like, what fan base?
You guys throw the Pro Bowl.
They paid my understanding.
UFC was just asking what the Pro Bowl asked for, right?
Like, the money that they said.
And I was like, bro, that's easy.
You know what I mean?
But you guys throw the Pro Bowl.
The actual Pro Bowlers, the guys who, the NFL guys who's actually playing in the Pro Bowl, go out to the clubs and fight.
Yeah.
They fight in the clubs.
I'm like, brother, you're not going to have a fighter fighting in the club down here.
Like, fighters is like, we're crazy, but we're not going to fight.
We understand this.
But like a Pro Bowler is going, and like, that's the crowd you want to go.
Like, the actual guy, like, I can understand.
You can say, like, oh, yeah, fans might fight this and that, especially certain, but like, that's anything.
Fans fight at the Pro Bowl.
Also, it's going to be mainly local fans.
I don't think people, that many people are going to fight.
Hawaii somewhere off YouTube.
The fan base is there.
There's plenty of fights on the mainland.
This is some.
Is this some local shit where someone needs to get greased?
Brother, I'm sure, brother.
Do you not see that?
The rail?
Did you come down with the rail yet?
No, it's the rail.
Oh, my God, bro.
The rail is like getting audited right now.
Let's just do that.
What's the rail?
They're building a rail, bro, in Hawaii.
How crazy is that?
To connect what to what?
Who knows?
I don't even know what it.
Like, it was supposed to be this length, and then now it's like smaller.
And then now they're like auditing it because, like, they're going to find out, bro.
Everybody's going to be.
They're going to figure it out.
So it's crazy.
But that's the thing that happens when it gets, you know, in tricky situations like this, you have a few people that have a lot of power.
And if they're not getting it, it might not be checked as much.
And they can just kind of pull money.
But they're going to get checked now.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, when the federal government starts asking questions because it's federal money to build a railway.
Yeah, I believe.
No, no, it's state, bro.
The state is doing it, bro.
And you know what?
It's more messed up.
So the state is doing it, right?
And then you get.
What could it be?
Is it for traffic?
Because there is traffic.
They're just doing it.
I don't.
I have no idea what they're just doing it for freaking to do it for fun, I think.
But they do it.
It's a state thing, right?
And you know how Oahu and there's different islands, right?
Yeah.
The different islanders is getting taxed for that too.
So the people that can't even use it.
How crazy is that, bro?
That's insane.
I'll be pissed.
I'd be tired.
If I was on a different, I'm pissed.
I'm on the island.
Brother.
You're not going to get a station.
It starts in Kabulet.
Capulet is where?
On the island?
Kapole is like 20 minutes away from me.
So you still got to drive up.
It's 20 minutes just to get on it.
Nah, bro.
So if you still got to drive, like, if I'm driving like 10, 15 minutes already, I'm going to drive the next 15, 20 minutes to where I got to go.
I'm not going to park my car to wait and it goes.
It's crazy, bro.
What's the island that's only Hawaiians?
Malakai, is it called?
No, no, no, no.
Niho.
Nihal.
Nihihao.
Nihihao.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like Hawaiian.
Yeah.
But wait, so, and you have to be Hawaiian to go on it, or you need permission or something?
You need permission.
Yeah, you need permission.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you ever been on it?
No, I haven't been on it now.
Kind of wild, though, right?
Yeah, that'd be pretty cool to see.
That's cool, yeah.
I think so.
You gotta like go to one of the other islands and then you boat to that, and then the boat can't even dock.
Like, you gotta jump off to swim into it.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Something like that.
Yeah.
That's how they weed out the non-Hawaiians.
Yeah.
You're going on Hawaii.
That's how they keep black people off the island.
They ain't making it.
Sorry, Barack.
Isn't there a difference between like Hawaiian and local?
Like, isn't there a classification?
Like, people that live in Hawaii a long time might not still be considered like Hawaiian or something?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's a local Hawaiian.
So, like, there's like people that look like Andrew that's talking like me, but they're like, I grew here.
Like, no, you didn't.
You freaking just came, you know, like 20 years ago.
But that pigeon catches up, bro.
There's something so addictive about pigeon.
Like, pigeon is fun, bro.
Bro, are you, you, if you're just talking to the boys, full pigeon?
No, no, I, I, I, I, is your pigeon good or no?
I, I mean, it's all right.
We all talk about it.
We all talk.
Yeah, we all talk pretty well.
Like, especially with like interviews and stuff, I kind of had to like clean up my, clean up my speech, which is, I still need to clean it up, but I'm terrible at talking.
That's why if I was talking pidgin, you'd be like, what the fuck is that?
But when you do speak pidgin, like it is, you can go full pidgin.
Oh, yeah, I can talk and we can understand even certain or even certain sayings.
Like when people, when I tell Tim something, he's like, what the what?
Like what, for example?
I mean, I kind of freaking putting me on the spot.
Let's go eat.
What is it?
Let's let's grind or something.
Yeah, let's grind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?
Grind to them is like workout or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Grind?
Yeah, the pigeon, I feel like every white person that moves to Hawaii within like three years is speaking pidgins or a little bit of an accent, but we were there for three days.
We're like, yo, talk story, brother.
Talk story.
Exactly, exactly.
So is it just slang or is it a whole different thing?
Oh, it's a language, though.
Pidgin got got.
It's kind of like Jamaican patois.
It's like Hawaiian patois, right?
A pidgin actually is considered a language now.
Did you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's an actual language.
So I speak two languages.
Oh, you're bilingual, dude.
100% is not bilingual.
DC, bro.
Bro, DC is bad.
He speaks one language.
Yeah, bro.
And he don't give his French jobs.
That's fucked up, dude.
He's like, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's building a little railway over there at ESPN.
You might need to talk to DC about that.
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Hand out some checks.
What are you looking up?
Bro, my favorite thing back in the day, like they would have all these Bible translations when I was in school, and they gave us pigeon Bibles.
And so we would.
Yeah, yeah, at my school, like there was like a Bible translator.
So they would have the pigeon Bible.
Okay.
And then it would just, we would read it.
We'd be like, that's not a language.
So this is like John 360.
Can you read it for us?
Yeah.
God wouldn't get plenty, love, and a law for the people inside the world.
That he would send me his one and only boy.
So that everybody that trusts me no get cut off from God.
But get the real kind life that stayed to the kind to the max forever.
That's the best Bible, bro.
That's the best Bible.
That is terrible.
Is the pigeon weak though or what?
Brother, no, that's fucking, that's strong.
Too strong for me.
That is really strong.
Yeah, bro.
That's his one and only boy, man.
So that everybody that trusts me no get cut off from God.
You can't get cut off, bro.
Oh, dude.
It's the best.
Every Bible verse, and you could look up anything and just do pigeon translation.
Like Google Translate has it now.
And it'll just give it to you in pigeon.
It's crazy, bro.
I didn't know that, but Google.
Yeah, dude.
Have you ever had to fight anyone at a surf spot?
No, bro.
I have too much street fighting.
Have you ever seen fights like that, though?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
What's up with Dahooey?
Are they still running shit over there?
Oh, yeah.
They're all North Shore guys.
I think so they're living more living more legal now and stuff.
But yeah, they used to see them around.
They still remember coming up.
Dahooe is, I mean, how would you describe that?
They're just like group of dudes.
They run.
They just run whatever they want to run.
Yeah.
It's their waves, bro.
Yeah.
So it's surfers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A bunch of surfers.
You got to earn your respect and your right to even catch waves at a place like Pike.
Yeah, for sure, bro.
Especially by weight is already packed.
It's scary, bro.
And it's dangerous.
That's the other thing.
Yeah, it's super packed.
So people give shit to like Dahooe, right?
But I feel like in a weird way, they're solving a problem and making it safer because...
It is making it safer.
But then now it's like talking about, bro, it's going to take your life.
It's what?
Two feet, two, three feet of water over like sharp reef, and the wave is 20 feet, eight feet.
It's like, come on, do the math.
Vertical drop.
Boom.
So think about it.
If you have a bunch of guys that are coming from all these different countries and they're just snaking people, you're risking someone's life.
Yup, people would die.
No, for 100%.
And that's what they did.
You know, that's what come this, I mean, on YouTube, you typing pipeline beefs.
You know, I'm sure you just see people getting rolled up.
But at the end of the day, that's what it is.
But right now, it's just, it's even a weird time for guys out there.
It's like everybody's just trying to, I mean, I guess so, clout chase and get that one wave and get the wave of the winter or whatever it's called.
So they're out there with cameras doing whatever it is.
And it's just like, bro, this is so, this is people's lives.
Like, people out there die.
They actually die.
They hit their face in the reef.
You know, they drown because you can't get to them because there's sets after sets after sets.
So also the reef down there is kind of gnarly where they're these.
Fuck it.
You get slammed underneath one.
And you just keep moving because you get hold.
Dude, I almost fucking died in Lanai, dude.
My leash got caught on some reef when I was surfing out there.
Oh, shit.
Dude, it was gnarly.
I literally, I couldn't get up.
I had no more breath left and I took a breath of fucking water.
Bro, why are you laughing?
We lost that.
This is a dream.
This is a dream.
The white guy dies in a fucking life.
Bye, Holly.
But somehow this shit popped up.
But yeah, I remember like even watching surf videos and stuff as a kid and seeing that it was there, these like pockets in the reef.
So you could go and you could fall into one of the pockets and then you don't know which is up and down.
No, you don't, bro.
The sand is moving everywhere, so you can't open your eyes and even find it.
Gnarly.
It's crazy.
Is there like a like, because I know your girl is a pro surfer?
Okay.
Like, is there like a gender thing where like the dudes will run it or is it like they'll open up for men?
No, no, no, no.
They got, they got, they got girls out there that can be girls in charge.
Yeah, yeah.
What's the girl?
Kayla Kennelly, I think, Corneas?
Kayla?
I think it's Caitlin, you know, or whatever.
She's the old school.
Yeah, she's the old school.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're talking about.
I can't say her name, but then right now they got another girl.
I forget her name too, but they call her like the queen of pipe.
Like, she just charges, bro.
You gotta be, you gotta have some screws loose to be charging that way, bro.
It's crazy, bro.
Has wifey ever surfed pipe?
She did pipe.
She did pipe before.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
But you got to get like, it's all about getting ready and training and whatever for.
Do you get scared for her?
Because she's afraid for you, but her job, you could argue way more people die at.
Oh, as I tell.
I tell people, like, surfers is like, oh, shit, your job is crazy.
I was like, no, it's not.
You get those sharks.
Yeah, you get to control somebody, you know?
Like, if you really want it, you could teach somebody how to fight it there.
But at the end of the day, like, Mother Nature's going to slam you and be like, okay, wait, time out.
Time out.
I know timeout.
No, you're getting slammed and slammed and slammed, you know?
So at the end of the day, bro, surfing is crazy, bro.
Especially the big wave surfers, bro.
That shit is so gnarly.
Bro, and then you're moving so fast on some of the big waves and so much water is like almost hitting, like they say, it's like cement.
Like you're just skidding, you know?
I'm like, bro.
Mazaray, all that shit.
Yeah, even Jaws, which Jaws is where off of Maui or something.
Maui, I think.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right there.
That's how you guys come.
Did you meet your girl surfing?
No, I didn't.
I didn't.
We just surfed before.
We just, yeah, I didn't surf before.
I did not surf at all.
I was a boogie boarder, a dick dragger, they would call it.
I had to change it.
She was like, yeah, I'm not going to be dating a dick driver.
That sounds like a compliment in a way.
Dick dragger, bro.
That's worse.
That's funny.
That was Al's nickname in high school.
It is right now.
Oh, man.
But yeah, I didn't.
I just, we just was from the same.
She went in safe on the same side because if you look at it, it's like Wai Nai Maca, Miley, Nanakouli.
And like every whole zip code is 96792.
I mean, people are going to be mad when they see this from Marside Island.
But I was like, she's from Macau.
She's like, I'm a Macau, girl, blah, blah.
I'm like, yeah, what is your zip code?
96792.
Yeah, Wai Nai.
Last time I checked.
So I was giving them a hard time.
But yeah, we just kind of knew.
I kind of knew of her.
She kind of knew of me.
And then, but yeah, we just ended up talking at one point and rest of history.
Yeah.
Paid it off.
Yep.
Beautiful.
Now, how did you, how did you explain to her your true love, which is video games?
Like, how did you break that down to her?
Did you let her know she's always going to have to come second?
Oh, brother.
Oh, brother.
Yeah, that's a tough one.
I don't think so.
She even knows that she still comes second.
You just got to let her believe whatever she's going to believe.
You just got to go with it, bro.
You know, happy, what is it?
Happy wife, happy life.
Just keep her happy, whatever it is, you know.
And just sometimes, I mean, it's like a job to me, too, now, you know, because keeping her having.
Because I see the vacations y'all are going on.
I'm like, oh, he's keeping her habit.
Yeah, so, you know, that's the trade-off.
You know, I play some video games and then you got to use it.
You got to go to Greece.
I guess so.
I guess so.
But Mika Nose is sick, bro.
You ever win?
No, not yet.
Bro, you gotta go, bro.
I might be going this month.
Beautiful, bro.
I love Mikinos.
Got to stay uh, we got to stay at Mikonos and bro, it's cool Gorenta Gorenta, ATV, you literally drive around the whole island like 30 minutes on.
That it's only one part of the island, because they they build on only one part of the island, because the whole other side is uh, windy and the thing is called a Windy.
It's called a Windy Island yeah, or the Wayward.
There's like the Wayward side.
I understand what you're saying.
Yeah yeah yeah, so it's cool.
So, like the I, I loved it bro, I love that.
Okay, before you go um, last thing, well actually, maybe maybe one, two more things.
I know you got to get out one best.
I know you're, you're from the most beautiful place on the planet, so it's hard to probably be impressed when you go on vacation in other places.
Is there one that you guys went to where you're like, no no, this is crazy freck.
We love Japan bro, really.
Like my wife was like we just came back and that was the first time.
I went a couple times, but my wife is like, I love Japan, the food they eat bro, how cheap it is.
The people there, everybody knows you like some, some guy, like when we went to certain places they're like oh, Max.
I mean yeah, they'd be saying Max Max, but then saying Japanese language.
I don't understand.
Yeah, they'd be being like yeah, suck a bag of dicks.
You know, all jokes aside, I love Japan.
She she's like I would really move here.
You know like she would like if she would move anywhere.
She said she wanted to move to Japan, like in Tokyo or on the coast any bro, I think so more on the coast, the stuff, because we actually got to go to like uh, Kyoto and Osaka and stuff, and that I always went to Tokyo, but this is my first time going out to like um Osaka, like that, and I was like what the hell took me so long bro, it's beautiful bro, it's like it's just crazy, you know so.
And it's just the culture is cool man, that people are so nice.
It's like that.
It's like that that.
That that Uh, Cat Williams freaking skate of when the white people called the wrong person, it's like that's what Japanese are pretty much the the skid of.
When he was like hey, you know, I I think it is Cat Williams the one's like hey, let's figure this out.
You know, you just call me back.
You know, like whatever, like if yeah, you got the wrong number still, but just call me back and we figured it out.
That's how.
That's how Japan is so common yeah, so common.
And then bro, like five-year-old kids, four-year-old kids, walking home bro yeah, by themselves, our boy, our boy, Benu Yeda right, half Japanese dude goes to Japan.
When he's younger, gets absolutely shit faced, blacks out, falls asleep on the street.
Okay, he just passes on the street, wakes up, one pillow and blanket, i'm sure, i'm sure of it.
They folded his shirt, put it under his head as a pillow, put his socks and his shoes next to him.
It was like somebody made the bed.
They thought he was a salary man or something.
Bro brother, i'm telling you that's how it is bro, so like, that's how it was.
Like even we was walking out by the stuff uh, by nightclub, and one girl was just like out sleeping, and a couple guys went there, light her down, moved her away from the uh, the stairs and just put her on the ground next to the stairs and left her there.
I'm like yeah, this ain't America.
America would be different bro, very different guys.
Max Holloway, let's go, Billy my brother.
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Thank you so much, man.
Yo tell them where they can find you.
Tell them where you're gaming.
Tell them uh, where we can see this fight.
I don't know if we mentioned it was in Singapore yet.