Kanye West and Alex Jones dynamics reveal how forced interviews highlight rationality, while the Manosphere's resentment stems from sexual trauma exacerbated by dating apps. Art Basel's exclusivity contrasts with Burning Man's "poor cosplay," illustrating how fame creates transactional relationships devoid of genuine connection. Elon Musk's Twitter acquisition prioritizes controlling information flow over profit, mirroring Amazon's dominance, yet raising fears that immense power inevitably leads to corruption regardless of stated moral missions. [Automatically generated summary]
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Alex Jones Redemption Arc00:07:08
You know who I think the big winner is in this whole thing is Alex Jones.
What?
We might have found his road to redemption.
If he just keeps interviewing people crazier than him, forcing him to be like, well, but that's not true now.
We can't just hate people.
I love Jewish people, but I also love that.
Yeah, you know you've gone off the deep end when Alex Jones is interviewing you and he's the rational.
Like he's got to keep you in line.
I like Hitler.
I don't like Hitler.
I know you're trying to be shocking, but I'm not trying to be shocking.
I thought this man was Barbara Walters.
You can't just say these things.
He kept giving them outs, too.
He's like, you're not really a nut.
Like, people are saying, you're saying you like the Nazis, but you're being hyperbolic.
And then, I'm a Nazi.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Poor Kanye.
Poor Kanye.
But it is exhausting, right?
Are you guys exhausted by it yet?
Yeah, dude.
Yeah, I'm just exhausted by it.
Yeah, I was on the PBD podcast, Patrick B. David.
It was great.
And we were discussing it.
And it's just like, it's really fun.
Kanye is trying to do what he does for music, but like with thought.
Yeah.
Like he's just trying to like handpick a few interesting sentences that he's heard and then organize them into one cohesive thought.
That's how you make a beat.
Because that's how you make a beat.
And he's done that throughout his career and it's been absolutely amazing.
He just grabs them, puts them together, and he has a real talent for that.
But with thinking, you can't do it.
It's like there are political parties spend millions and millions of dollars on these things called think tanks and they organize thoughts and it costs millions of dollars and tons of people who went to fucking Harvard, Yale, Ivy League, all the smartest people in the world that have nothing else to fucking do sit around and think.
And even they can't convince us to stop getting abortions.
Do you know what I mean?
Like even they can't convince us to stop going to war.
Yeah.
You know, it's just like, but millions of dollars are spent.
There's probably been like 20 interesting thinkers in history.
We're still talking about Socrates.
Yeah, it's true.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like there's only a few people throughout history where you still remember the shit they said.
You're like, I might have been on to something a little bit.
Right.
And Kanye is just trying to like remix.
And it's just not how it works.
It is easier to make beats than think.
I hate to break it to you, musicians.
It's easier to make beats than think.
Also, just sample better producers.
You know what I mean?
Like sample more Socrates, less Mein Kampf.
Yeah you go.
Like just do more like I think therefore I am.
People be like, man, this Kanye guy is really deep.
Yeah.
Like Jim Carrey sampled, but he sampled more like esoteric shit.
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Or like Jim Carrey when he was like, oh, nothing means anything.
Like he was just like pulling thoughts.
Oh, I thought you were saying he was stealing jokes.
Oh, no, that's a huge shot.
No, Jim Carrey for no reason.
He's sampling like ideology and worldviews.
Remember when Jamie and Willow were doing the whole like they're super philosophical.
Philosophers were like, yo, they're actually taking from a lot of good philosophers here.
And like, it doesn't make a ton of sense, but their thoughts are, there's a lot to it or something.
Yeah.
Kanye's taking from the worst philosophers.
Well, it's so interesting because he's like, he's taking from Jesus and Hitler.
Hitler.
Like, it's just fascinating fire and ice.
Yeah.
Like, it is.
He's a Targaryen, dog.
Hitler, bro.
Like, isn't that crazy?
That is wild when you think about it.
To be like, to look at Jesus and be like, wow, this is a perfect human being.
Like, the way that he is able to forgive and welcome people into his kingdom.
And then Hitler, who's like, you have brown hair?
Fuck out of here.
The least forgiving guy in history.
Sweet and salty, bro.
That's it.
That's what it is.
Like, in no way is he listening to the ideology of Jesus and going, I don't know if this Hitler shit lines up.
But that is musically kind of what he does.
Like, he'll take rock music.
Black skin.
Black skin.
Yes.
That's a good sound.
We're getting it.
Jesus wasn't enough for him.
Isn't that crazy?
That's crazy.
I'd be a bad Christian.
Jesus should be enough.
You don't need Hitler.
Jesus should be enough for you.
But Kanye is such a bottomless pit that he can't even be filled by the greatest filler in history.
Yo, I'm just saying, super filling.
Do you know what I mean?
Ask Mary, fam.
You know what I mean?
What?
What?
Because she was pregnant with him.
She was pregnant with God.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
First Me Too.
Yeah.
Listen.
Literally, Kanye could have sampled the devil, and I think people would not be as mad.
If he was like, yo, I'm a Satanist now.
People would be like...
Way more forgiving.
You just can't go Hitler.
Because not even atheists like Hitler.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, God sucks, but they wouldn't go as far to say Hitler's true.
Yeah, you can have philosophical discussions about Satan.
Satan was an angel.
He felt spided.
You could be a Satanist.
You can't do that about Hitler in art school.
You can identify as a Satanist.
You can't identify.
Nazi.
No, that's not.
No.
No, no.
Believe in the epitome of all evil.
But that's not as bad as Hitler.
That's not as bad as the actual evil.
What the fuck is this guy talking about?
Whoa.
Hitler went to hell and the devil was like, it's great to meet you.
I've heard a lot about you.
Everyone's been chatting about you.
I think he went there.
He's like, you took it a little far.
How am I going torture people like you down here at all?
That was evil, even for me.
Thanks for warming up my seat.
Wow.
Yeah, that is a wild thing right there.
Even an atheist recognizes that Hitler is crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whoa.
Yeah.
What do atheists?
No, no, not even atheists.
A Satanist would be like, yo, this is crazy.
What is the purpose of Satan religiously?
What do they teach you about?
Like, what do they teach about Satan?
He's a bad guy.
Used to be an angel, great at music, and then got cast away because of his pride.
Got cast into hell.
Yo, Jifty, why are you laughing at this?
Is that not true?
Come on, what is that?
Is that not true?
Let me find out.
Mark knows less about God than soccer, bro.
But wait, wait, is that not true?
Why is that not true?
Is Satan responsible for all the evils in the world?
Yeah, so technically Satan would be responsible for Hitler.
Yeah.
But the Jedi became the master.
There it is.
There it is.
Young Anakin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Is it Anakin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, here's the question.
If Kanye likes Hitler, who's the embodiment of all the things that Satan represents, is Kanye not a Christian?
Is he actually a Satanist?
Ooh.
Is he using Christianity to bring people to the dark side?
What did God always say about Satan?
He's an ugly guy.
No?
I don't know.
Right?
Isn't he like a false prophet?
A liar and the father of lies.
He'll come to you as everything you always want, which is.
Fire beats.
Yeah.
Fire beats and also relationship with God, Christianity.
What did he literally?
Didn't he do that?
What was that Sunday service?
Who's that Sunday service for?
Are you saying he's angel?
Like Sunday.
Are you saying he's Antichrist?
False Prophets and Trauma00:14:49
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
It seems like something.
Who's the fallen angel?
Gabriel?
I don't think so.
Handfold?
No, no, no.
I think Gabriel.
Which one of these clumsy ass angels felt?
Lucifer.
It was Lucifer.
Okay.
A bunch of other angels went with him.
Did they?
Yeah, they chose up.
Cox.
Is that the first Manosphere?
Dude, I don't know who I'm more tired of.
The fucking Manosphere or...
I don't know if I'm so tired of the Manosphere or I think they're real talk.
Is there one red pill dude whose girl didn't get fucked while he watched in their life?
Is it, is there one of them who there isn't a story where like their girl didn't get fucked while they watch and is Being is being in the manosphere of the rep. All right, you know how like, and I'm curious about this.
You know how like you're like the most homophobic guys secretly want cock?
Yes.
Okay, yeah.
Right?
Yes.
Do they secretly want cuck?
Secretly want to be like, if you keep talking about cucks and all this other stuff, like is that you trying to throw the scent off a cocktail?
Yeah, I'm wondering a little bit.
They're the most bluepill.
I think that's what people do with trauma, though, on a real note.
It's like when people are traumatized, they try to act it out in like a sexual fantasy.
Is my note not real enough for them?
No.
You just said they're all cucks.
What?
You want to just call me a bunch of people?
That world dad.
I thought mine was a joke.
It was goddamn real.
It felt like a setting.
But like people will try to use like sexual fantasies as a way to like get control over some bad shit that happened to them.
So like a lot of these dudes that are into like cuck shit, like their girlfriends cheated on them and then they're like, oh, I'm going to get control of the situation and like watch it happen under my terms.
It's like this weird warped way to like gain control.
Like when girls enjoy being a slut or whatever.
They probably went through some sexual trauma and they're trying to desensitize themselves to sex.
So trauma wasn't as bad.
Like people have like an aggressive like assault fantasy, like a rape fantasy or something.
Oh, they went through that.
They went through some type of trauma with that and now this is a way for them to get control over the bad shit that happened.
That makes sense because if this if sex means nothing, then this horrible thing that happened to me also means nothing.
Yeah.
Actually, it's a good coping mechanism.
And especially if you're a cuck.
So if you watch the woman you love get fucked her brains out of in front of you, you know, I could totally understand why you would be like, oh yeah, that's cool.
Wait, what?
No, I don't think they have a cuck fantasy at all.
No, it's this, like their girl cheated on them.
Yeah.
And then they're like, damn, that hurt me really bad.
Yeah.
And then they're like, oh, I'm going to gain control of this by the next girl I'm with.
Some dude's going to just have sex with her brains all over.
Oh, yeah.
This is the opposite.
Can we go back to reality?
Can we go back to reality for that?
They're closeted cucks.
I'm agreeing with you.
No, in all seriousness, I think the frustrating thing about the manosphere is that like, I remember having all those feelings, right?
And I think that these feelings, you know, they come from you're younger, you go through heartbreak, a girl cheats on you or some shit like that.
And you have this frustration where you're not in control of your sexual destiny.
And there's a vulnerability in that.
And as a man, you're not.
Women control sex, right?
You can't have sex with a woman against her will.
Yes.
Right?
I mean, I think Patrice even had a line about that.
You can't control.
You're going to have sex with a woman against her will.
That's rape.
Yeah.
Right.
So at the end of the day, they are in the driver's seat with sex 100% of the time.
If you want to be a remotely decent human being.
Exactly.
So the other thing that you can do is you can develop like certain skills to increase your chances of sleeping with the woman that you're really interested in.
But at the end of the day, you got to hope that they want to sleep.
And, you know, I think that that's what a lot of guys go through.
They're like, okay, I want to, that's what I did.
My dad gave me that book about the pickup artists and I read it and I was like, oh, that's cool.
Like you can learn these skills that eventually will help you get laid.
And it was really appealing to me at that young age.
But I think what happens is if you're a smart dude, and a lot of these guys happen to be intelligent guys, is when you have a resentment for women because you're not in control of your sexual destiny and you've probably had something pretty shitty happen to you from a woman, like a girl took advantage of you, maybe used you, maybe cheat on you and like fucking broke your heart.
You match that with intellect.
You can justify your feelings.
Yes.
And that's a scary thing.
Dude, that's the most dangerous thing on earth is people who are smart can justify anything.
This woman is awful.
Let me think of why.
And why all women are awful.
And that's how I'll protect myself from what I experience.
I can't get, I'm not, I don't have the sexual destiny I want to have.
So how can I blame everyone else except me?
Yeah.
And make it rooted in logic.
And it might, yeah, go go go.
It's actually not me at all.
It's completely logical.
And it might not be your fault.
Like that girl might have went through some horrible shit.
You know, you know, we are the sum of all the interactions we've had in our life.
She might be had horrible experiences, relationships, even staying with her family, and then she cheated on you.
She did something really fucked up to you.
But it doesn't mean necessarily that you're bad.
But it also doesn't mean all these women are bad.
And I think what happens is you eventually get a little bit older and then you fall in love with a woman who's maybe right for you.
And that resentment and bitterness that you have for the opposite sex goes away.
You're also now way more in control of your sexual destiny because you guys are in this consensual, beautiful relationship where you won't have sex with each other all the time.
So for me, I'm looking at like the anger and the resentment and like the almost fear of women in the Manosphere community.
And I'm like, I get that.
It's a younger thing that you will grow out of.
So it's hard for me to look at it and take it seriously.
Though I do understand the feeling that those guys have.
I just hope that they develop these relationships.
And the last thing I want is them to take this advice of, I don't want to never be in a relationship.
I always want to be single.
I always want to have a bunch of bitches.
Like, you're not going to lose that resentment.
You're not going to lose that anger.
You're not going to lose that bitterness.
It's not going to build.
It's going to become more and more.
And you're also going to attract the exact women that you hate because those are the women that are even going to tolerate the bullshit that you're talking about.
So it's like a woman who needs your rejection to validate herself.
Validate herself is so empty.
You're going to look at women as empty because that's.
Yeah.
She's got a void.
It's not her fault or whatever.
But like, you know, I've also noticed like I had friends who were great.
I missed that resentment, bro.
I had some fire women-ace shit jokes.
It's so hard to write women-a shit jokes when you love them.
Yeah.
And you think they're great.
You know what I mean?
It's difficult.
It's also like a different time.
Like, imagine, like, you got like a book that wasn't even that bad.
Imagine if you went through that same shit when you had like social media podcasts like telling you clips all the time.
And also like clipping certain women that are exemplifying the behaviors that these guys are.
You see every example of it, like gold digger screws off guys.
The ick.
I saw a random thing popped up on my Instagram and it was a girl talking about, oh, he told me he was going to be late.
And I was like, oh, that gave me the ick.
I'm about to be done.
And there's this idea that women can be done with you at any moment.
Now, I have a lot of like female friends growing up.
I've also dated a lot.
I know that the ick doesn't exist.
The it doesn't exist.
Women will say a lot of things just like guys say a lot of things.
It is absolute bullshit.
If a woman likes you, there's no ick.
You've seen a woman fucking.
I feel like when guys have deal breakers, it's like if a girl's hot enough, you ain't got no funny deal breaker.
Dove convincing me every week he loves a new girl that's fucking brain dead.
Okay.
Me, guys.
It's not mean.
It's not mean.
They just don't have what I ultimately want.
Yeah, a brain.
You got the ick for someone?
No.
No, I just have a list of things that I'm looking for.
So if you look at this video, like, oh my God, these girls are so unrealistic.
Look at these tiny little things that give them an ick.
It's like, none of that shit gives them the ick.
They just didn't like it.
It's like liberals of TikTok, but for the red pill.
Like you find the worst example of this party that you don't like.
Exactly.
And then you're like, look at how they all are.
This is how they all are.
Which is not.
The left does that with the right too.
Exactly.
They all fucking do it.
And, but it's just, yeah, I look at it in a little bit.
It makes me sad.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes me sad.
But I understand the feeling because I had the exact same thing.
So what do you do if you have that?
Justice.
What do you do if you have that feeling?
You're 22, you got cheated on.
You fucking hate all women.
You're like kind of listening to these manosphere podcasts.
You're like, these guys make a lot of fun.
It makes perfect sense.
And the things aren't lies.
You could flex numbers in whatever way you want.
And it works out perfectly.
So what do you do?
You hope that you fall in love with a girl and then she makes you feel like, you know, she makes you feel like, you know, that's that person for you and that you're safe around her and you can be vulnerable with her.
And you're like, oh shit, wow, women can be absolutely amazing.
Because we don't get to know, I didn't have a sister growing up.
You didn't have a sister growing up.
I know a lot of guys who were good with girls who had sisters growing up or raised by their mom or whatever.
And they weren't like mistreating them.
They just understood women.
And it's like, hey, you're just as vulnerable as me.
I can treat you well.
And then move on and have sex with as many people as I want to, but I don't have to mistreat you to do it.
And I really think there's a lot to like, you just don't know women.
They're just as vulnerable and scared as you.
But because they have, they're in the driver's seat in terms of what the outcome is, you think they're like super drunk off of power and fucking, they're just as insecure as you, just as like scared that they're going to get rejected as you.
And if you can just meet that and be like, hey, we're both in this moment.
And if she moves on, that's not a reflection of you.
It's a reflection of her.
100%.
Or whatever she's feeling at the moment.
Don't take that personally.
I think if we didn't take rejection so personally, a lot of this would go away.
Well, that's the thing.
Like when you are sensitive and insecure, like we all have fucking been, rejection feels that much worse.
Like rejection is brutal, painful.
Yeah.
So because it validates all your worst fears about you.
She's not saying that.
She's just saying, hey, I'd rather not go out with you.
You're saying, oh, I'm ugly.
I'm stupid.
I'm XYZ.
So isn't it nicer to chalk up rejection to their personality defaults?
Yes.
And not who you are as a person?
That's what I would do.
If I was sensitive, insecure, that's what we've all done.
It's, oh, they're all a bunch of gold diggers.
You would say that if you don't got no gold.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, if you got gold, you're like, she finally appreciates my personality.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, we all want to be appreciated for what we have.
Yeah.
So, I mean, yeah, that's the tricky thing is like, these are defense mechanisms that we all build out.
Yeah.
And it's hard to realize their defense mechanisms until you have a healthy relationship.
So I guess the advice is like, keep dating and have faith that that will happen.
You know, it's not like every single person is miserable in a relationship.
There are plenty.
We still have relationships for a fucking reason.
I've yet to meet this happy guy with four girlfriends.
I've yet to meet him.
I've yet to meet this fulfilled, this happy.
I have one wife.
I can't have two wives.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, that's an absolutely absurd notion.
There's a lot of unhappy married people, to be fair.
Absolutely.
I've never seen the guy that's juggling women all the time.
He's like, oh, I feel so happy, so fulfilled for a long period.
Also, these short-term fire.
These people that are in marriages that complain about them.
That's what you're supposed to do.
I'm calling my boys up.
Yo, fellas, I had the greatest lunch with my wife.
You don't do that about anything.
You complain because complaining is funny.
That's what it's really dangerous.
If he starts telling you how great everything is, you're like, oh, no, this guy.
Oh, he's beating her.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we got to save someone.
He's hitting his wife, bro.
Isn't that fucked up?
Yeah.
That's some crazy ass fish.
If you're like, oh, my wife and I just get along, so we never fight.
I'm like, yo, either y'all going to break up or you're a monster.
Yeah.
Every time someone asks my wife and I how our marriage is doing, my wife offers up this piece of information.
She goes, yo, we hear the first year is the hardest.
I'm like, why do we got to share this with Sharon and David?
Who the fuck are they to know about the first year is the hardest?
Oh, share it with Sharon so much.
Just fuck me, Sharon with Sharon.
Do you know what I mean?
What would you mean the first year is hard?
You know what I mean?
You don't start paying for these goddamn vacations.
That's fucking hard.
You know, see how much more fun this is?
Yeah.
Self-fating is good.
Go out there, complain.
Get it out.
Get it out the system.
But have faith that there are beautiful relationships out there.
And beautiful relationships don't mean that every single fucking day is peachy and clean and happy.
You're going to still argue.
You're going to still, I mean, disagree on things.
Yeah.
That's what life is.
Yeah.
That was huge for me.
I didn't know because I grew up with all fights being huge.
And then when I actually learned, like, yo, fighting's supposed to happen.
It just doesn't have to get crazy.
I was like, oh, oh, this is normal.
We're okay.
I think you all saw so much is fear.
But what I was going to say to you, one piece of advice.
I think we're all kind of realizing that alpha male, beta male shit is kind of like, not really real.
But I would say this: if you had a picture of what an alpha male was, would it be somebody who's so insecure that he needs to mistreat a woman to keep her with him?
Or would it be somebody who's like, hey, I'm going to treat you well.
And if you move on, that's fine.
I'm going to bang all the dudes in front of me.
That's cool.
They're fire.
I'll wash.
That's sick.
That's the most alpha.
That guy's awesome.
That's the alpha.
Yeah.
That guy's awesome.
That's red guy.
That guy's awesome.
That guy is the most alpha dude.
The coolest guy.
Just take a smash.
Who needs a towel?
Yeah, that guy's really cool.
Yeah, that's the most alpha dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shout out.
Shout out to Manosphere, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How much longer do you think that exists?
Forever.
I think.
Just different iterations of it.
Yeah.
You know how we had Atkins and now it's just called Keto.
There's going to be another Manosphere in 10 years after this goes away.
It's going to be the same shit in a different name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, as long as it produces funny shit, like, you could argue that Patrice is so much of my shit, manosphere, but be funny about it at least.
Yeah.
Like, that, to be honest, that's what was working for Tate.
Yes.
The dude was fucking hilarious.
Funny and unique takes.
Unique takes, man.
That's so redeeming.
Yeah.
I never heard it put like this before.
It's like a comic has a great airplane joke.
You're like, God damn, how do you do that?
How do you do that?
I still think of his Bugatti thing.
He's like, I don't let a woman drive my Bugatti because have you ever thrown a ball to a woman and seen her catch it?
Hilarious.
And I said this to my wife, and she goes, That's not true.
And I go, okay, I literally threw her like a peach in my hand and she immediately, actually, no, she caught it and then her phone fell out of her pocket, cracked on the ground.
True story.
I can't let it go.
I swear to God.
I was like, there's no way.
There's no way, dude.
It's funny.
My wife doesn't let me drive.
What does that mean?
Am I an alpha?
You're an alpha.
You're an alpha.
I'm an alpha.
Yeah.
I'm 100%.
No, it's that simple.
Just be funny about it.
The angry manosphere dude, or the one who takes it seriously.
Yeah, clown clown.
I don't even want to hear that.
Yeah, that's terrible.
Like, even when you're hanging with your boys and you're making jokes about women, it's funny.
Yeah.
There's no dude in the group who's like, yo, fuck these bitches.
That guy is weird, man.
That's weird, bro.
What's wrong with you?
Yeah.
We just got to get you.
Give me some pussy or something, man.
That's crazy.
How are you angry at a woman unless you dump a load on her belly?
What?
They let you do that sometimes.
High Value Man Struggles00:08:25
Yeah.
How are you angry at that?
That's what they prefer.
It's because you can't do it.
That's why he's angry.
Oh, you're saying they don't get any pussy?
Yeah.
Oh, because all these Chads and Giga Chads are out here just banging all the chicks.
Oh.
What is it, Giga Chad?
I thought that was a toy of some kind.
No, that's kind of keychain.
That's that ultra Chad, bro.
That's like you seen the guy with a huge jawline.
Yeah.
That guy's Giga Chad.
So they're getting all the girls.
Yeah.
That's what they're saying.
But that's how the world works.
Name of species doesn't operate like that.
That's true.
Hold on.
These Manosphere dudes are all of a sudden communist with the coochie?
They want it equally spread around.
I think that's.
So you want to have millions of dollars to have fancy cars, but when it comes to pussy, you want that shit to be, what is it?
Adam Smith?
No, the other guy.
Karl Marx.
Karl Marx?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Oh, no, no.
No, I think they're saying that's why you need to be a high-value man so you can get these girls.
That's like part of it.
Yeah, but they don't want to do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What I'm saying, they'd love if the pussy was just there.
Yeah.
Right?
But so the fact that you have to go achieve this thing, what are they understanding that these are the rules?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Yeah.
So not everything they say is some toxic shit.
Like, yeah, sure, go be that.
Go make all the money you want.
But then actually feel that on the inside.
Don't just make money and then be like, oh, finally.
Yo, you can get laid.
I mean, I know people are going to say, like, you're 6'2 and beautiful, but like, no one's gonna say, I know they're gonna say, like, you're not 6'2 and absolutely beautiful and have a full beard, but like, as a nobody tell me you're 5'7 and gorgeous and you've never had sex with anyone except one person.
Exactly.
So, you know.
That makes sense.
But I need knowing, though.
But I need knowing that.
Yeah, high value, bro.
High value.
Yo, yo.
If you ever want to feel good about yourself, tell a dude that don't get no pussy that it's easy to get pussy because he's going to explain everything about you that makes you get pussy.
Oh, yeah.
It's easy for you to say you have all your teeth.
The perfect teeth and your long legs and your great ass and your abs looks fucking amazing.
It's like, god damn.
I think he wants to fuck you.
I think he might want to.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
I don't get why they're so mad at women.
It seems like they're mad at other dudes that are banging all the women.
Like you're mad at the other dudes that are higher than you in the hierarchy.
Yeah.
So like direct your anger towards them.
Also, don't make money before you get pussy.
Get pussy first.
You don't have to make money to get pussy at all.
Make sure you get pussy before you make money because I don't think you'll ever be able to respect women if you didn't get no pussy.
Then you made money and then you start getting pussy.
Because that confirms your worst nightmares.
And you're probably hanging around women that genuinely like you for your money.
Exactly.
That small percentage of women that only do that, yeah, you're going to get confirmation.
And then when you find a girl who doesn't really care, but actually likes you, you're not going to trust it at all.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's number one.
Do not become a high-value man before you get some pussy.
The worst advice I could ever give men for truly loving and appreciating women is becoming a high-value man and getting some pussy.
Get some pussy when you're the lowest value man.
Yeah.
Because then you look at these women like, they love personality, right?
They love chat.
They want to be entertained.
Look at Dove.
Dove a medium value man.
He's approaching high value.
He's approaching high value, I think.
Dove, Dove Dumb, beat out high value men, high value.
Listen, listen, let me define high value.
High value, what they call high value is just rich.
Yeah.
What we call high value is something else.
Dove is great value.
That's what Dove is.
Dove is high value, but he's not rich.
Great value is great, dude.
You mean like the store brand?
Yeah, exactly.
Like, oh, God, damn.
Like the Walmart details, bro.
No, but great value.
Like, like, you get all the things you want to date, you know, funny, charming.
I'm a Tesla right now.
Not unattainable.
But, you know, I'll be a Bugatti.
He's going to be a Bugatti soon.
I guess what I'm trying to say is like, Dove is proof.
Obviously, intelligent, good-looking guy, but amazing chat, knows how to make women feel comfortable, right?
And got laid way before you, when you're in debt, motherfucker was minus.
Alex Jones.
What?
You were in debt getting pussy like crazy.
It was the first girlfriend thing.
Nobody loves women more than Dove.
That's true.
Think about that.
Think about that.
You love women though.
The first love story was still to be like the hottest girl.
That was like the Chris Rock episodes, like never let your son date the hot girl at school.
It's getting boring.
Hold on.
It's getting boring.
Just joke.
Go, That was mean.
I was mean, right?
That was mean.
I just complimented the fuck out of you.
It's a mean guy.
I don't need these anymore.
I just got flared the fuck out of you.
Okay.
No, but in all seriousness, go.
You have the first time.
Oh, that built the confidence.
The fact, no, I felt like you, oh, I guess.
Well, I didn't know you before.
But the fact that you could come back from the first big breakup?
No, no, just that I could get that girl based off of just in high school, being personality.
Wasn't the captain of the football team.
I was the captain of my volleyball team, though.
That's good.
That's high value.
That's high value.
But still.
But still.
Was not the richest kid in school or anything like that.
But wasable.
We were like living in an apartment at a super fancy private school.
I'm not saying I didn't make fun of you.
Beverly Hills High School.
What hotspire.
That's like the opposite of an insult.
Yeah.
It's like, you get girls despite the fact how shitty you are.
It was a public school.
Just with a cool name, Beverly Hills High School.
Oh, I thought it was a private school.
You have to live in Beverly Hills so you could live in a mansion or an apartment.
And you lived in?
You lived in both.
What did I say?
No, no, he had a beautiful home.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
But in high school, I was in apartment.
So they got an incredible deal on.
Probably.
Probably figured out some way to finagle a system.
Moved out of Harvard and I wasn't sure.
I think he developed the whole thing.
They were squatters.
Let's be honest.
They were definitely.
You guys were squatting?
Yeah.
Squat in the Hollywood Hills.
There would be a guy that would come knock on the window and all them would just jump to the floor.
Maybe they thought it was Kanye.
No, it's the Palestinians.
They're like Palestinians.
I know.
But my point is, you have zero resentment for women.
I don't want to say zero, but like I don't see you as someone who hates women.
I don't see you as someone who talks badly towards women like you appreciate them.
You also know how to connect with them, right?
And it doesn't seem like you have that much resentment.
I remember like when you were dating in LA, there was a little bit of frustration with the apps because they took away, but they took away what was so great about you with women, which is the charm, the chat, hanging out.
It just became the meat market where they're just swiping on pictures.
And it's like, I know how this story ends because I would be around girls who would tell me about all this terrible dating they're going through.
And I'd be like, yo, ask me why this is happening like this.
And you basically become guys.
No, that's actually what's really interesting.
It's like the apps have forced them to focus even more on this high-value male type situation.
Whereas before, when you had to meet a girl, you had to meet them out in public.
And the guys who are willing to go up and talk probably were better at chopping it up.
You know, a little bit funnier, more charisma.
Now it's the bio data, bro.
Straight bio data.
Sam, we were onto that though.
Maybe these manosphere guys are right, dude.
Maybe they're fucking right.
I think so, dude.
But then you could also say that like faking value in a picture is the easiest thing you could ever do in your life.
Oh, yeah.
Rent a car for a day.
Picture.
Done.
That's good value.
That's great value.
That's yeah.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you seem like the one that has the least like resentment or animosity towards women at all.
And you do incredibly well.
And you're not out here fawning billions of fucking dollars.
So what have you learned?
You're still single, but what have you learned?
I mean, I actually say it's getting worse.
Really?
Yeah.
Like what?
I feel that I'll be the head of the manosphere in the next six months.
No, but someone would really have to impress me that.
Wouldn't it be funny if he left the pod, joined the manosphere, and then was richer than all of us?
Yeah, right.
That'd be great.
But I don't want the money, guys.
I want the love.
Yeah.
Chasing that feeling.
Yes.
So hopefully they realize this.
Hopefully a lot of guys that are influenced and realize this.
But also still appreciate the jokes.
Keep going with the jokes.
I haven't heard a good banger from Tate in a minute.
I'm going to miss it.
Miss it.
Yeah, he's been off.
He got to get like special permission from an imam.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like to be like, yo, you could still say that wild shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, Allah has a sense of humor, too.
Like, he's like a loss leader for the brand.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
You can do whatever you want, but you're helping bring people in.
Get out there in the world.
Go.
Just start mixing it up.
Get out there, but just bring people back to the flag.
You know what I mean?
That's what it is.
I need some bangers, bro.
That's a good one.
That shit about the driving a car.
That's good.
That's brilliant, dude.
Great.
Test it out.
Go home.
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Just toss a tennis ball.
Just see what happens.
See what happens.
I'm going to join Hustlers University for the jokes, I think.
Maybe they're all behind a paywall.
You know what I mean?
Maybe.
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Now, let's get back to this.
How was Art Basel?
Am I pronouncing that correct?
Is it Basel?
I don't even know.
You don't need to go to that shit.
Art Basel is everything that I disliked about Miami squeezed into one week.
Why did you go?
Well, we went because it was a friend of ours' engagement party, which was phenomenal.
Okay.
And congratulations, by the way, Oren Camilla, beautiful, amazing party.
But our basel itself, looking at art is really fun.
Cool thing about art is you don't have to have taste, it's what affects you.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you see some picture and these fucking people don't like it, but you like it, go buy that picture, go buy them painting.
So, it's a reaction is going to get evoked in you, and then you can buy that piece of art.
Doesn't matter what they think.
If you're buying it so that you can have some sort of investment, now you got to care what everybody worries about.
But if you just want to have it up in your room so you can look at it because it makes you feel a certain way, that's great.
Do it.
So, seeing the art was really cool.
But I think what happened is that what I loved about Miami was there was this great Latin cultural influence where people were having fun and they were so fucking welcoming and happy and smiling and wanting to party, wanted to have a drink, want to eat some food.
It was like it felt like the holidays every single day.
Kind of like family.
There was positivity that you often don't see.
And listen, I'm a New Yorker through and through.
I love it, but a lot of times we can get caught up in a rat race a little bit and not have that same like outward positivity.
Yeah, but down there, it was a fucking positive thing.
If you walk slow, you'll get yelled at in New York.
Exactly.
Let's go.
We got a place to be.
Yeah.
So what our basel was was just a combination of the things that I did not like about Miami, which was like pretentiousness, not even pretense, like just the clout chasing, money hungry.
The thing about Miami is it didn't feel exclusive.
It was like everybody coming in together.
Let's fucking do it.
And this was exclusivity.
Yeah.
It was like, which I didn't feel these things regularly when I was in Miami or seldomly I felt them, but this week it was like super heightened.
Everybody looking to see if they're about to find a famous person.
Everybody trying to be in this picture at this cool party or getting on the list of this.
And I was just like, yuck.
This is super exclusive, though, right?
What?
Getting into Art Basel.
You have to be invited.
They have to accept your invitation.
No, no, you can go and see the exhibits.
I mean, it's genius.
It's like five people are buying these expensive works, but they'll charge 60 bucks a person to get into one of these halls in the gallery or whatever.
The gallery where, you know, there'll be ones for definitely for emerging artists, but that's what you're doing.
You're walking around, but then it's, it's, there's music festivals, there's DJs.
There's just to walk in a hotel, it's like, you know, you have to show it.
Show it's 40 minutes for an Uber.
It's like, to me, the party didn't feel any different than a regular party weekend in Miami.
That's the thing.
So it's like, it's no different than what you can access in Miami, but now the Ubers are 40 minutes.
And the hotels are.
The hotels are way more expensive.
The traffic is insane.
The traffic, it's just like, it's all the worst things squeezed into four days.
And apparently I was talking to a buddy of mine who runs a gallery up in Palm Beach, and he was just like, the real Art Basel is Monday, Tuesday, where the people who actually care about the art go.
And you go look at all these works.
And then you go to some parties that are like run by some art people, not a party where it's just like every fucking IG model is there.
You're going to see a lot of talent, but the fact that like they're all there, you know that they don't give a fuck about art.
I don't give a fuck about art.
But I was going, oh, is this a unique cultural thing?
And of course, our friends are getting engaged and throwing a party for it.
So I'm like, you just, it's like everybody is here to be looked at instead of look at shit.
And the whole part of art is you're looking at it.
Yeah.
It ain't even about to.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I just, I would not go back.
No interest in going back.
That said the Thursday party with Blondish, plus the engagement party.
But talk about the Thursday race that we went to.
That video of you running by is so funny.
No, you retweeted it.
It's just Blonde is spinning, and then you just see Andrew run back with just a white beater on, his hair flapping in the wind, just looking naked and happy.
I don't know if you're on mushrooms.
Imagine people send me that video.
Like my personal friends were like, yo, come get your boy.
Like, what is going on?
You were just going crazy in the business.
I rave, bro.
Yeah, you're a raver, dude.
Plur, dude.
I fucking plur it up, dude.
Now, there's a, yeah, Blondish is the shit, man.
She throws an absolutely amazing party.
So connecting with her was dope.
And that, that was fucking fun.
She seems great.
She's fire.
I mean, her show, the show is just incredible.
Any other cool link ups?
Did we?
Yeah.
Not really.
What I would say is like you could go blonde is one of the best DJs in the world right now.
Go see her at a non-Basil.
Exactly.
Like see her any, wherever she is this weekend, go see her.
Yeah.
If she's in your country or city, just go see her.
She's great.
You don't need to put yourself through that fucking basil.
40 minutes for an Uber, and it says it's eight minutes away for 40 minutes.
Yeah, it's infuriating.
But then once you get in it, you're still waiting.
That's the best part.
You're in traffic.
It's like we just love staying at the house.
We hung out with the culprit guys.
Oh, Barnes.
Shout out Dylan's speedy recovery.
Broke his foot.
Oh, yeah.
Dylan broke his foot at the engagement party.
I've been had a broken foot in the blonde.
You're a little bullshit to get to.
Was it a Liz Frank?
What was it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
It's not me.
Me and Des Bryant got the same injury.
What can I tell you?
I mean, that's crazy.
Did you put your card in the mischief ATM?
No, but that guy for, I'm sorry, I'm fucking forgetting his name right now, but he hit me up.
He's like, yeah, you got to come down to the ATM.
Did you see it when you were there?
No, because I don't think we were at that one.
And I wanted to go, but I literally didn't because I was like, do I want to wait for an Uber for 40 minutes?
Really?
Yeah, it just ruins the vibe.
It feels like what people in LA go through, where you're like, your friend can ask you to come over and you have to calculate how much traffic you'll have to go through coming back.
And that will stop you from just going to your friend's house that should be 20 minutes away, but now it's an hour and 20 minutes.
All my text messages were telling people how I can't link up with them.
Like you are in your group for that weekend and just don't even bother.
So Mischief, who's the brand that's behind the little Nas X sneakers, sneaker.
They do a bunch of cool shit.
They did the car.
Did you see this?
The key for all?
Where they basically have one car.
It's a PT cruiser.
Yeah.
And they sold like 5,000 keys.
And all the keys unlock the car and can drive the car.
Oh, that's fire.
And the idea is like, okay, we're going to just put the car in some random place.
And everyone has an app that gets you to the tracker that tells you where the car is.
So once you buy a key, you know where the car is and you have a key that unlocks it.
So people are like flying from LA to like Boston to like go get the car to unlock it.
I think it started in Brooklyn.
I believe it.
And now it's Casey Nice Hat started.
Yeah, Casey like drove it right at the beginning.
And now literally like people just meet you and the rules of the game are like if you see them, you have to trade keys.
Yeah.
Or you have to trade off the car.
So you're like, you'll pull up someone be like, hey, I have the key.
And they go, all right, you take it.
It's like tag.
Yeah, literally.
That's cool.
It's just like this collaborative effort to be like, okay, how long can the car stay alive for?
And so like some guy got it who's like a mechanic and he brought it into his shop and like cleaned it up, detailed the whole thing.
And so it was in like great shape.
Another guy's like an artist.
He painted the whole thing.
So it's just like this big group effort just to do shit.
And so Mischief did it.
I think it was dope.
Yeah, they're fucking great.
Yeah.
So they basically put this ATM that displays your account balance.
Yeah.
And people are going and running it up.
And I was thinking, what is the game with this?
Because I was going to go there and I'm like, I don't want to win.
You know what I mean?
It seems like a no-win.
Like if my account balance is mad high, I'm going to get anxious because everybody's going to know.
It's not going to be number one.
But even if it's low, I'm going to be fucking embarrassed.
Just a complete lose-lose.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, how do you find a way to your picture is displayed, the amount is displayed.
I don't need all that.
Yeah.
But there is a fun game with it.
If you can have debt, that's kind of funny.
Damn, I was thinking, like, how do I be last?
Yeah.
Having negative is kind of cool.
And I asked, and there was like a big line.
I was like, yo, if I come by, I'm not waiting on that fucking line.
It's like, okay, I can get to the front of the line.
I'm like, okay, what is the game that I can play?
I'm not about to like move some funds and try to win.
No, if you move funds to lose, though, that'd be hilarious.
Move function like this is dope.
Yeah.
How do you become guaranteed last?
That's zero.
Yeah.
Or negative.
Negative.
What else could you do?
ATM?
I mean, have a funny number, like 666 or some shit, 69, 69.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of it.
That's really the only way to win.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I thought it was a good idea.
It was a great example of like not only marketing, but also art.
How do people have that much money in their checking account?
That's what I also think.
Because nobody's paid taxes yet.
This is nobody's paid taxes yet.
So you have all your money that's in there.
Aren't you investing in something though?
In your checking account, just moving.
$5 million in a checking account.
That's just move it.
You take it out of your fucking whatever money market savings account.
So you just move it over.
No, with Bank of America app, you could do it, switch from savings to checking.
Burning Man Exclusivity Issues00:14:31
Right, I guess.
But still, usually people would have huge funds.
It's like Goldman Sachs to move money into my checking for it.
You know what I mean?
Like, come on.
Yeah.
For a little clout, for a little clout.
So why are other people going to Art Basel?
Are they trying to network and connect with people?
No, it's the most attractive scene if you actually want to.
Yeah, there's tons of beautiful people there.
Every big DJ's out there.
I mean, you guys were there.
So, yeah.
Yeah, we're the beautiful people.
Yeah.
No, for what we know about it, like moving around the way we did and having that freedom is just you could get everything you want.
I'm sure we didn't do it right, to be honest with you.
Like, I'm sure we should have seen more art.
We should have probably went to some parties on some fucking yachts or something like that.
Like, I don't think we did the best version of Art Basel.
Speak for yourself.
What are you talking about?
You decided not to go and do this or that.
What are you talking about?
Yeah.
What do you mean?
What just happened?
You wanted to stay at the house and then you were, oh, I want to see some art.
What are you doing?
What's that?
What are you talking about?
You're saying that we would have done it right.
I thought we did it right.
I'm happy with what we did, but I don't think we did Art Basel.
In the way that people say you need to enjoy Art Basel.
Yeah, like we didn't go to some crazy fucking late night yacht party.
We didn't do any of that kind of stuff.
We went to a mansion party the first thing.
Yeah, mid.
We went to a Don Julio host.
That mansion party was supposed to be like the party to go to.
Bro, this thing sucked.
It comes the girls weren't smoke shows.
Oh, yeah, but it's like, so what?
But I'm just saying, it's what I love.
The idea is like, it's like...
What would the yacht party have been?
Like, we live and work in Soho, New York.
I didn't see more hot girls in that party, Miami, thank you right outside the studio.
Soho is a student.
Every single loop lie.
Soho is specifically bananas.
Soho is specifically bananas.
We can go outside.
Greatest concentration of attractive girls.
Really?
Same one, right?
I think.
How many did you?
Did you do anything?
Did I not at some other things?
Yeah, okay.
I'm just saying, listen, seeing a lot of hot girls in the same place isn't like the most shocking thing.
So it's a disappointing part, but you did it is what I'm saying.
You did it right.
You just didn't like it.
I don't think we did it right now.
Don't be insulted, but I don't think we did it right.
I don't know what you didn't do right.
It sounds like you did it right.
I think you did it right.
It sounds like it might just suck.
Yeah.
I think you just didn't like it.
We didn't go to a yacht.
I didn't put a yacht.
He just knows that a raw double.
He's just like, what is it that we didn't do?
I didn't do any yacht stuff.
He went to a sponsored event by the, not Don Julio 1942, but like 1942's fucking Papa Bear.
Yeah.
The extra yay-ho.
You did these events properly.
You just didn't like it.
It's okay.
Yeah.
Not for you.
You didn't like it.
So there you go.
I wouldn't go back.
The opposite of Burning Man.
Yeah.
Exclusive clothing.
It seems like the opposite of Burning Man, except the people are still.
Can I tell you something?
One eighth of the amount of attractive women that were at Burning Man.
Like, imagine a party at Burning Man and then just pick just the ugliest of the women and that's what the best party was.
That's who Duba's hooking up with?
No, no.
Dove is talking to beautiful girls.
It seems like Burning Man is almost like rich people kind of like, this is going to sound more meaner than I mean to, but like kind of cosplaying like what like poor people go through.
100%.
And then Art Basel's rich people being like, let's just be fucking rich.
Yeah.
Let's be in mansions and yachts.
Burning Man is Montana in the desert.
Yes.
You know how like rich people like go to Montana because they're like, I want to be a cowboy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I want to get in touch with humanity or whatever like that.
It's like that's Burning Man is that.
Like I want to be a desert person.
I want to be Mad Max.
But while you're in Montana, you do get in touch with nature.
Yeah.
It feels good.
Right.
You're like, wow, it's nice to look at these mountains.
It's nice to be on the river.
It's nice to fish.
This is really enjoyable, even though you're putting on the costume.
I'm getting away from all of it.
It's kind of nice to get away from all of it.
And the same thing, I think, happens with Burning.
You put on the costume, but then it fucking works.
I can't remember what the hell it is.
What was that goddamn something wager?
Pascal.
Pascal's wager.
You know, live a God-fearing life, even if God doesn't exist because you actually feel better doing it.
And then shit, if you end up going to if heaven's real.
Yeah.
That was a good wager you put on.
It's a good upside.
Yeah.
I'm curious if this is you getting like more well-known.
Events like this are less interesting.
Because some people go and they're like, I mean, it was pretty cool, but like, also, like, Andrew Schultz was there and this TikTok guy was there and this other person I know was there.
And so for them, it was really cool, but like you're a part of their attraction.
You see you whenever you want.
And then you go and you're like, I didn't really care about the TikTok guy I met.
This is interesting.
It's like once you remove, once you remove exclusivity, the party is the party.
Yeah.
Not even remove exclusivity.
You are the exclusivity.
Like you bring the exclusivity.
Guess what I'm trying to say is like once you're invited or allowed to be at a place where people want you, now you're just judging the party as how fun the party is yeah.
So I'm saying, whereas before that if you shouldn't be in a place and then you get in, you're just excited to be there.
Exactly, if you're in the club with P. Diddy, you're having an awesome time.
But if you're P Diddy, you're like I'm just in a club.
It really depends on the party.
Yeah, at that point yeah right, you're.
So it's like if you're P. Diddy, you're at this party like oh, the DJ's fire and like that's the thing.
The Blondish thing is like it wasn't fun just because we were there with her.
It was fun because she's a great dj and she was rocking that shit.
Yeah right, so I I yeah, it's interesting.
You have a more objective perspective on the party and maybe that's why Burning Man's great is, because it's like fucking eh, it's so much goddamn fun.
Not for all of us or or every one of you.
I don't know if you guys felt this way on the way in.
I was like oh, the rv's gonna break, we're not gonna get in something.
Well, you definitely went through it.
You're like i'm not gonna be able to get here, it's not gonna be able to happen.
Then you finally do go, but yeah, that is an interesting perspective.
Yeah, I don't want to take that away from people who are really excited to be in that place.
But once you can go, like I wonder if like um, I wonder if that's what happens with like uh chicks, or like just people, not only just chicks, but like people in relationships with others because of the clout or because of the financial benefit.
Like once you have the clout and you have the financial benefit locked in yeah, now it's really.
Do you like that person?
Yeah, and if the relationship falls apart, it's like well, you never really liked it.
You like the clout?
Yeah yeah, you like people talking about you?
Yeah, that tells you everything you needed to know.
Yeah, it strips away all the other shit that would make someone interesting.
Yeah, but it?
But in that moment it's hard to be self-reflective.
You know you're dating somebody.
You're getting so much clout from it.
Yeah, you actually might think that that is butterflies for that person.
Yeah right right yeah, I don't think people are doing it maliciously, but they're like oh, i'm using this person.
That's what you you theorized about, Kanye and Julia Fox was they were getting, they got together and they were getting all this like attention from everywhere and everybody's eating it up.
So they were both like oh, we're getting all these great.
We're getting this great feeling yeah, from the outside, but we think it's probably us two giving it to each other.
Yeah, that that same, that same void is being filled.
Yeah, so it's hard for you.
You can't discern if it's external or right here.
Yeah yeah, and I think people do that where they go to parties and they're like dude, the party was insane.
I met this guy and all these hot girls were there and the whatever else.
And then you're like okay, if you take away the things that you valued in that situation with this like social hierarchy, then like was it actually good?
And you're like yeah, the music kind of sucked and like I was kind of drunk and that was it.
Yeah, this house party, which is like the one on that day and it was just like I don't know boring everyone else, but i'll admit to it, it was everybody's looking to see if somebody's there like look at you.
Everyone else had a great time.
Because they're like, bro, this comedian I love was there.
Yeah, he's gonna take dude.
This party sucked.
I just kept getting stared at it, annoying man, and then notice the things he likes.
He's like dude.
I wanted to go into nature, like I wanted to be out in the woods where no one was there, like that was awesome.
Yeah, right.
Or just have cool conversations with people, like about art or something that would have been kind of cool.
Yeah, What, dude?
Are you cool?
What?
He was just so like outwardly just.
He wants to meet 20-year-olds and talk about how many TikTok followers.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what he's really into.
What did you like about it, Dove?
I actually didn't go expecting to want to see art.
He didn't say you wanted to see art one fucking time.
That's actually a lie.
No.
When you were there.
I believe beforehand.
We went there for an engagement party.
Yeah, I went to this engagement party.
Yeah.
And then when I was there, I was like, I'd like to see some art.
This is an art festival.
Okay.
And you had the option again on Friday and you want to stay at the house and just fucking hang.
So?
That is on, that is on me.
40-minute Uber, though.
40-minute Uber.
Who's going to do that?
Someone who likes art.
I don't know.
That's an interesting thing.
Like, I kind of understand.
I don't know if this is necessarily true, but like you see movie stars that do this where like they'll get famous and then like they'll have that turn where they're like, I just want to like like Brad Pitt's like making art and shit.
And I'm like, like he's like painting and like sculpting and he's like, this painting means this.
And I do think that like if you're removed from like those normal social circles and every single event kind of feels like a little bland because people are looking at you and you can't even experience the thing anymore.
And again, it's not anyone's fault.
It's just the nature of like how the hierarchy works.
Then you're like, okay, now I'm interested in like creating something and personal connection and like real shit that like actually matters.
You could even just be like when Johnny Depp, remember we stayed at a place he used to live at in the Hollywood Hills.
It was super like, you could not fucking get to it.
We couldn't figure out how to get out.
Then he went and lived in France.
It's just like, I don't want to be, you strip away all the other shit, like all the fame and all the lights that I'm used to now.
I don't like any of this.
I'm just going to go live where the fuck I want to live.
I don't want to be around it.
That is actually.
I'm not saying that's you, but I am saying I've seen that happen with other people.
I think it's a little bit different in the way that I have kind of played the game.
Obviously, I'm not even close to a level of a guy like Johnny Depp or whatever, where they're going to be doing like some super weird shit.
But I've consistently wanted to do the same things, which is like collaborate with my friends, right?
Like, and go on adventures with my friends.
Like, Burning Man was an adventure.
I just wanted, we didn't make any money on Burning Man.
We like demonetized the episodes specifically to go along with like the Burning Man values, right?
But I wanted you guys to all be there and I wanted us to do something fun together and enjoy that together.
Even doing the pod is like, let's do something fun together.
To me, when we go to, and Dove fucking hates this, but when we go on the road, I don't want to party after.
What do I want to do?
Eat.
Yeah.
It's not about food.
No, that's a hand.
100%.
I want to just talk to you guys.
And I want one of you guys to say something wild.
And then we tease this person.
It's like the podcast.
The reason this is natural for us is because this is just kind of like what we all enjoy to do.
Like before this, we're doing it out there.
And then after it, we're going to do it out there.
So for me, I guess going to one of those fancy, cool parties before I had any level of fame at all, I guess was exciting for what you mentioned earlier.
It's like, oh my God, these people are going to be there.
When you're 25 and you're in LA and you get to go to a party, meet celebrities.
It's like, oh, that's cool.
But I never really enjoyed the dynamic of those parties because it's not the thing that I enjoy doing.
But when you get to see, it makes that for a lot.
Your emotions are conflated where you're like, did I like this or is it because this famous person?
Yeah, I like that there's that famous guy.
And it's still exciting to see it.
Last night, fucking 50 Cent is on the flight coming back.
And it was so cool.
I like introduced him to my wife, but I called him my wife and Emma.
It was weird.
I was like, oh, hi, this is my wife.
What's that?
You were on the phone?
I was on the phone.
We were talking about the pod.
50 Cent.
I did not know that was 50 Cent.
Oh, you guys said he said it.
No one else heard it.
I literally go, I go, I go, babe, this is an absolute legend.
And then I look at him and I go, this is my wife.
Hey, yo.
And then he kind of smiled and he was, this is how much respect I have for 50 Cent.
I thought he was in the seat behind me directly and I didn't even put my seat back for like an hour.
That is a lot.
I gave him an hour of a three-hour flight where I was like, he might be crammed.
That's 50 Cent.
Like, I get crammed 50 Cent.
Then I found out it was my wife's seat and I was like, boo, I just fucked this back.
Can I get a head massage?
Hello.
So like, I think there is that.
Having that, there is that excitement that we all have and being around these people, blah, blah, blah.
Dude, like nine years ago, my friends went to 4040 Club to watch the finals and one of them got a high five from Jay-Z.
They still talk about it to this day.
Yeah.
It's the fucking coolest thing that will ever happen to them.
Yeah.
And I don't think that ever goes away when you're really excited about the people you're meeting with.
But when the people at the party are some like fucking private equity douche.
Yeah.
Like I'm like, oh, God, I shook hands with the guy who makes money off of people's money.
He trades money overseas for different money to make more money.
Wow.
Whoa, dude.
That's crazy.
Like, fuck that.
I'm dropping my seat immediately.
Before we take off, I'm driving.
You could use some discomfort.
You fuck up.
Yeah, fuck you.
Yeah, get a private jet.
Anyway, so yeah, I think that was good.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
But being able to focus on the things that bring you joy.
And I'm so fucking, I think about that.
I'm so lucky that I get immense joy from hanging around with my friends.
Like that is the pinnacle of joy.
Yeah.
And my friends, my wife, even spending time with my wife, like that's a fucking awesome time.
So shocking.
Shockingly.
That's an awesome time.
No, but like, how lucky?
Like, there are people that they need to jump out of a plane to feel anything.
Yeah.
Well, I think a lot of people, like, you have a good group, but like, imagine you were like 10 times more well-known and had no social circle.
You didn't hang with the people you went to college or high school.
Dude, back in the day, you moved to LA, you left everybody you knew behind.
You go to LA.
The people you meet are also just trying to be famous.
You probably feel like most of these friendships aren't real.
Then you get all the fame and all the shit that you wanted, but then it's this thing that you're feeling magnified times probably 100 because they can't trust any relationship.
Child Stars and Normalcy00:11:24
That's why I'm low-key empathetic to like these crazy celebrities that like do crazy shit where they think they're like all distant and saving the world and think they're whatever the fuck.
Because like I get how, I mean, granted, it's their fault.
They've removed themselves from all the people that were around them to go pursue this thing and left a lot of people behind.
And that eventually, I think, bit them.
But I understand how those circumstances take place and can kind of like warp your brain.
And pre-internet, you didn't have really an option to be famous in Des Moines.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, you got to go to hospital.
You had to remove yourself.
You can't.
Dude, that's an interesting point about them.
And now look at a famous celeb that's been famous since they were a kid.
Yeah, your brain's fucked.
They never had the opportunity to develop those relationships.
Like we all went to high school.
We went to college.
We were sitting in this room with our friends from college.
Every well-adjusted child star is a fucking miracle.
Yeah.
I don't think they exist.
You see some that seem cool enough.
Maybe there's a couple, but it's very rare.
But I understand that.
Like, that makes perfect sense.
And the only way I could see them being well-adjusted is if their family was incredibly tight-knit.
And I don't know how you can have a good parental figure and allow your kid to be famous.
Like, you said this once to me.
You were texting me.
You said, like, it should be illegal to want your kid to be famous.
Yeah.
Like, that should be absolutely illegal.
Like, when you look at the numbers, right?
Like, there are parents who go, I don't want my kid playing football.
Why?
Well, it could hurt his brain.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How could you let your child be famous?
That's an initiative we need to start in the city.
No more famous.
You do an audition.
And if you bring your kid, you get arrested.
You go to prison.
Like, literally, I think.
You go to prison forever.
Forever.
That's like Chris Hansen, but for bad parents.
Yeah, exactly.
Chris Hansen should do that.
He should show up there.
That's his next iteration.
That is, you could save a lot of kids.
You could do it with Catchbridter.
Like, hey, do you want your kid to be the other kid that the people come and meet?
And if you want them to be that actor, go to jail.
Go to jail, fucking immediately.
And then you're there with the pedophile.
You guys in the same cell.
Yeah, where you deserve to be.
You both are.
You're both trying to fuck your kids.
100%.
Yeah, it's just a shocking thing.
And I always bring up this example, but I'll watch like these SVU episodes because my wife loves these crime shows.
And there's all SVU specifically has a lot of like molestation shit in it, right?
Because it's special victims units, really like fucked up crimes that happen to like sexual assault and also like child assault or whatever.
But they play at three in the afternoon.
Just isn't that a little wild?
Anyway, hilarious.
Coming home.
Let me put on something to calm you down.
But the fact that there's a child playing the role and there's a parent.
I know I've said this on other pods before, but like there's a parent that is reading the script and going, I think that my daughter would be good for this.
My daughter would be a good rape victim.
Crazy.
And then crazy.
Can you act a little more raped?
No, there's a director that has to look at a child and be like, be a little more raped.
Nope.
Get hasbulla to do it.
Yeah.
That's what he's got to play every role.
Every single one.
Every kid role, you got to be at least over 18 to play the kid.
I believe in that.
Get hasbulla.
Use the midgets or whatever like that.
Yeah, exactly.
For real.
And then they're like, that kid looks a little bit like a dwarf.
You go.
Thank God.
It fucks up the scene a little.
Thank God.
Just for the best of humanity.
100%.
It fixes society.
Yeah.
Let's sacrifice a little bit of art here.
Yeah, exactly.
Use your imaginations, guys.
That's what this whole thing is.
Can we use AI?
Yeah.
Like Smeagel.
Smeagel wasn't a real actor.
AI the kid.
Yes.
Use a regular, like an old person who's been raped, who's gone through that, and had those experiences that they can actually pull something out of.
Yes.
And then speakle it.
Face tune them, make him young again.
There we go.
Yeah.
Use the AI.
They're doing that for Harrison Ford.
They know they're going to make him young for 1923.
No, they're doing it for the next Indiana Jones.
And he's like, they're going to do, he's going to do Indiana Jones as young Indiana Jones.
And they're doing that anti-aging shit where they like reverse face.
They can do that with every child actor.
There it is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can fix that.
Yeah, there's something wrong about that.
It's fucked.
Like wanting your kid to be famous.
Yeah.
I mean, I think a lot of times it comes out of desperation.
So it's like kind of a double like compound.
You'd be that desperate if they're taking him to auditions.
Get a job, bitch.
Get a job, though.
Fucking job.
Right?
Like, the fuck is that?
It's 2 p.m.
How are you free on 2 p.m. and you want the kid to make money?
Because she sees the upside.
She's like, okay, if I can get my kid in this thing, I'll take one shift off.
Take the motto, bitch.
What are you talking about?
So you plan to use your kid like a dairy cow.
Yeah.
You're going to take the money from your kid that they're getting fake rape for.
They're desperate.
That's my point.
They're desperate.
They take the kid, bring him over.
Scratch off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get another addiction.
Just as much of a chance.
What brought us to this, though?
Oh, yeah.
Them not having a chance to be like normal, like fulfilled human beings.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
It's a sad thing.
Without some type of anchor, whether it's like religion, family, friend group, relationship, parents.
Well, go go.
Getting well known just will warp your brain.
I completely understand why these religious figures can so easily, I don't want to use the word infiltrate, but maybe infiltrate like Carl Lentz, the Hillsong dude.
And like him being able to build these like deep relationships with a guy like Bieber and a bunch of other celebrities and like basketball players, et cetera.
It makes sense because when you look at basketball players, specifically athletes, they are also child stars in a way, right?
Ever since they're young, they're like organizations that are reaching out to them, trying to get things from them, not really speaking to them in like an honest way, using them for their ability.
And their whole life becomes so transactional.
They might have teammates that they love to play with.
Hopefully they've built those bonds, but then those break when they go to whatever charter high school they do to play or whatever college they were to play.
They don't always get to take their friends with them.
So fuck, man.
Everybody's trying to extract something from you.
Yeah, not only is he not trying to extract from you, he's trying to give you.
Oh, exactly.
So now you have these religious figures that come in, they try to give you, they try to help you.
They're the only fucking person in your life that's trying to help you and give to you.
I completely understand why that works.
Yeah.
Completely.
Yes.
It's a unique feeling for these guys.
And how many people go to Justin Bieber and go, hey, can I help you?
Can I just hang out?
You want to talk?
You want to talk about your life?
I don't want anything from you.
I don't need a single penny from you.
Just tell me what you're frustrated with.
Dude, the Bieber's life is incredible, but I feel bad for the fact that since you were 11 years old, the entire world has had a very strong feeling about you one way or the other.
And you have just been in the center of you're in the paparazzi headlines when you're like 12 years old or whatever.
It's just crazy, man.
I feel bad for that.
Like how he grew up to be normal, if it wasn't for God, I don't think it happens.
Yeah.
He needed that.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
Like having those strong religious ties, at least there's like a community.
And I'm sure within the community, there are people who try to extract things from you, but at least they know it's wrong what they're doing.
Like if you're going to church to get in touch with God, you know, you don't need to count my pockets while we're at church.
At least there's this like this moment, but having that space, yeah, dude.
I will say, I don't really feel bad, but I do empathize.
Like, I bet you if you asked me, you were like, yo, what would you rather have?
Oh, no, overall, his life is great.
Yeah, he'd be like, I feel bad for that one thing.
1 million percent.
Yeah.
So that's not like, I empathize with people who are overly critical, but I'm like, no, I'm sure he's probably.
No, I don't want to make it seem like I feel bad for him and I have kids in Africa.
I'll be honest, I feel bad.
What do you mean?
I don't know.
I mean, this sincerely.
As high as I've gotten off of Tesla or ecstasy, I have felt that by laughing with you guys and laughing with my boys.
Like I've genuinely reached chemical levels of ecstasy without drugs.
Yeah.
Just by hanging around with friends and absolutely dying laughing at a situation or circumstance.
Telling stories together, reliving those stories, just having meals, plotting what our goals are.
Like I've reached those levels.
I've experienced that just by camaraderie and friendship.
And if your life circumstances have led you into these situations where it's much harder for you to build those and actually trust them, well, fuck, man.
I feel bad.
You don't know how dope this shit is.
Like, you don't know how going out to dinner with like four of my friends, going out to dinner with you guys, like what it feels like.
That is amazing.
And you don't know what that's like.
And that's not even human.
Our existence is supposed to be that.
There's supposed to be a fucking campfire.
We're supposed to be all busting balls about how difficult it was to hunt some bison and then we go to sleep.
Like you're missing out on the human existence.
Yeah.
That is.
Yeah, if they're missing out.
I don't know.
I guess I'm curious how many of them are.
It's hard to paint the case for pity for multi-multimillionaires, but yeah, I do.
100%.
And there's so many people who, like, there's so many like incels out there who don't have that.
Yeah.
There are also people who are poor that don't have that.
And I feel bad for them too.
Yeah.
You know, and I hope that they get to develop that.
Yeah, that sucks twice.
That sucks twice because you don't have the money to distract you with.
You got to sit in that.
So, yeah, Bieber, I feel bad for that one thing.
And like, even if you try to treat him normally, it's like, it's still Bieber.
Bro, I, yeah, no, no, you're right.
I don't know.
I was, I remember when I was living in Barcelona, I would go watch these old men play bocce ball.
Oh, yeah.
And I would watch like every day after I played ball, I'd walk back to my place and I'd and I'd go sit down and just watch them.
And I can understand what some of them are.
They're speaking Catalan.
So like I didn't understand exactly, but it wasn't about understanding.
It was I saw a bunch of guys who were 70, 80 years old busting balls.
Yeah.
Literally.
Literally.
I mean, Boston, man.
Yeah, this is good.
So it's like, I didn't even get it.
But it's like busting balls, having fun, teasing one guy.
Like I saw my friend group in real time.
And it gave me so much like hope.
I was like, oh, wow, this just keeps going?
Like we can all be 80.
Like I was playing basketball and I'd play going, oh, one day I'm not going to be able to play like this and it's going to suck.
And what's going to happen after that?
And then I saw these guys playing this stupid game.
And it wasn't about the game.
It's about the excuse to get together.
And I don't care if it's fucking golf.
I don't care if it's podcasting.
I don't care if it's fantasy football.
Like, look how much fun guys have with fantasy football.
Look as a fuck.
It is funny that guys do need an objective, though.
You need an objective.
Not objective.
You disagree.
I don't think it's that.
I think that's my point.
We always do that.
No, this is, yeah, this is.
But you can't just be like, just tell me what I think it is.
I think it's an excuse.
I got to tell my wife.
Yeah.
I'm hanging out with my friends, but I can't just say, hey, I want to hang out with my friends and not.
Even before you had a girl, though.
Even before you had a girl, would you hit up your boys and be like, you guys want to talk today?
No, let's talk.
No, no, no.
Let's hang out.
We just call it hanging out.
Yeah, but it'd be like, oh, you want to watch the game?
You want to dig a hole.
We're too insecure to say let's talk and get vulnerable, but do you want to hang out?
Yeah, it's just an excuse to normalize.
You know what?
Hey, let's just talk.
But that's what we like.
But we also like having something there so that we can, you know, explore something.
But yeah, the excuse is the game.
The excuse is the other things.
But I'll be honest, I don't want something that's too draining and too absorbing.
Like when I'm hanging out with my boys, I don't want, I don't want feet.
I don't want soccer.
Soccer is the worst game to hang out with your boys because you have to watch every second or you're going to miss the thing that's happening.
So now you miss out on all the chat.
Yeah.
Food is the best.
Yeah.
There's just enough distraction, but you can also talk.
Everybody's sharing.
That's why America's pastime was baseball.
Yeah.
It was talking.
It was a talking sport.
I kind of feel like that's why soccer didn't pick up in America in general.
We couldn't talk shit.
You can't run ads while the game's going the whole time.
There's no commercial break.
Every American sport, people like, there's like, okay, focus.
And then they're like, hang out, talk.
Yeah.
And then focus.
It is a nice thing about football.
There's always just a break to talk or whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, even actual football.
Comfortable Homie Dynamics00:08:39
Yeah.
Oh, you're talking about NFL.
I'm talking about NFL.
Yeah.
That's like, oh, every five, 10 minutes, there's going to be a break for two minutes.
We're chatting.
We're talking whatever.
Even if you're alone, you're texting your homies during the commercial.
Hey, XYZ happened.
Yeah.
And basketball, you don't even got to pay attention to the fourth quarter, really.
You can lock in if you want, but you don't have to.
You're not going to miss out on too much as long as the score is close.
And if there is an absolutely crazy play, they're going to run it back, put on the jumbotron immediately.
But yeah, having that ability to kind of just connect, man, that is a...
And when you're famous, young, you don't get that.
If you get famous at 24, no matter how famous you get and how crazy it gets, you got your homies from back in the day who still see you as that guy.
When you're famous at 11, 12, Macaulay Culkin, fucking eight years old, it's like nobody, you have no friends.
You have this distrust too, man, because everybody's trying to just extract from you.
Yeah.
So it's like, even if there is someone new, it's hard to let them in.
You know what I mean?
And also people know that everybody's trying to extract from you.
So they operate with you differently.
Right.
Like if you're around, if you're around a person that you know doesn't believe that you want anything from them, you can be completely normal.
If you're around someone that you think they might think that you want something from them, I'm off.
It's hard to be your true self.
I'm off.
So you don't even get people's true selves.
And that's, I think, why a lot of the times these guys have like hanger-ons that are really good at making them feel comfortable, but might not be like the most pure people.
They just know how to be comfortable around someone that induces discomfort.
And it's almost for that person, that famous person, it's better to be around someone who's at least comfortable knowing that they're extracting than around these other people who don't even know how to behave around you because you're so famous.
Yeah, I envy those guys who can be natural because I can't not think of how famous you are.
If you're like, for somebody I admire, especially.
I have to just tell you.
Otherwise, we're being completely inauthentic.
I just want to get it out the way.
And even then, I'm still going to be a little bit, but at least we know why.
Yeah.
Isn't that funny to meet a famous person and then you like introduce yourself and then they say it back and you're like, oh my God.
Yeah.
But like you do that fake thing.
We're like, oh yeah, nice to meet you.
What was your name?
Like every time, like anytime, like even like Rogan came through, I was like, oh yeah, nice to meet you.
And like, my name is Mark.
And then he had to say his name.
And I was like, why are we doing this?
Like, I kind of agree with you.
I'm like, I wish I could just come forward and be like, I know who you are.
I'm a big fan.
Yeah.
I'm a big fan.
I try to get it out right away.
If I'm a big fan, it's like, let's just say it and now we know.
Yeah.
I think I clammed up a bit around Burr when we met Burr because I just got into a car and you were just like, yo, get in this car.
And then I'm sitting next to Burr.
And that felt like a weird time to be like, hey, by the way, man, I'm a few unique.
So we just let him be Burr.
And I was just sitting there like this, like, this is the coolest shit in the world.
Yeah.
I felt the same way.
It's, it's all, yes, you're meeting the people you admire.
You know, it's an interesting thing when you see those the Titans, like Bill Burr's talking to who Chris Rock or whoever.
Yeah.
There's like an unspoken thing when you're that big where it's like, I know you can't possibly want anything from me.
Yeah.
Let's just talk shop.
Yeah.
This is a, it's like a pure thing that happens that I've seen that it's like so fucking cool to me because it's like, yo, we're being completely unmasked here.
You get it.
I get it.
Only there was like a thousand people in the world who understand what we understand and we don't want anything from each other.
Let's just relate to one another.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that is a beautiful thing.
That was what was great about that show that Gervaise put out with him.
Talking funny or whatever it was called.
Yeah.
Seinfeld and Louis.
Yeah.
There were some like really genuine fucking moments there where you're like, oh shit, they actually really captured for it's hard, but they captured with cameras.
What it's like when comics are just hanging around busting balls.
I'll be honest, I hope that people get that from this pod, man.
I hope that, yeah, I hope that's what we're putting out there in the world.
We always talk about the greatest hang on the internet, but at the end of the day, it's like, I hope people are tapping into that camaraderie.
And I hope they get a little of it.
Maybe they're working at home or working remote and they don't get the opportunity to be like hanging out with their friends as much.
And hopefully they, I don't know, hopefully they're listening.
Hopefully they're listening right now.
And they're like, oh, yeah, this feels like that nice, beautiful, cozy feeling I have when I'm with my guys.
Yeah.
And yeah.
We'll give you that every week, three times a week, but still call your homies.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Tell them you miss him.
Tell them there's nothing wrong with it.
Yeah.
I wonder.
Yeah.
I wonder if that's what I like about the movies that I'm like, you know, I always talk about Oceans 11.
It's like, I just, I love the relationships.
Yes, I love it.
Yeah.
It's so funny because I would, I loved Oceans 11, but I was like, I don't feel like that many people have seen it or was a movie most people just left behind.
Yeah.
But I'll like rewatch it as almost like comfort food sometimes on Netflix where it's like, you know, it's just guys.
It's also cool because they're so famous.
Yeah.
But they're like, they just have chemistry and camaraderie and friendship.
And you're like, oh, this is great.
It's just a great, I didn't like 12 or 13.
I think you liked.
I thought they were fine.
I'd like to do that.
I just like the whole, like, it's new, but it's like they've been friends forever.
It's just cool.
Yeah, I love that.
That's, you know, even fucking, if I look back at the movies that were influential to me in my life, Swingers, White Man Can't Jump, like I'm looking at relationships that are people are building.
Yeah.
And yeah, and just that camaraderie.
I really think that's what it comes down to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think.
Like, what was it about every Nicholas Cage movie you'd think?
Well, he's just so great at creating a relationship.
Also, like the way he can find treasures in America.
Yeah, exactly.
A lot of people can't find treasures.
I saw a Nick Cage movie that I liked.
Fuck, what was the last movie called?
The Unbearable Weight of Massive Expectations.
It's really funny.
And you watch it and you're like, yo, Nick Cage is great.
He's good.
He's self-aware.
He's funny.
He gets it all.
Watch that movie and you'll be like, okay.
Imagine if he was at Art Basel.
How much would you have liked it?
Oh, bro.
Dude, if you walked into that party, that mid-mansion party and just Nick Cage was there and he's sitting there like, this shit sucks.
And you'd be like, bro, that's Nick Cage.
Yo, that is so funny because I absolutely, it would change my life.
A million percent.
A million percent.
And then he'd be on someone's podcast and be like, dude, our password sucks.
These fucking guys.
It's everything I hate about Miami.
Yeah.
He could take you to walk around and see some art.
Yeah.
That is another weird thing about like getting some level of like fame is that like now just fame in general isn't impressive to me.
It's like what you it was not like it was before but it's random that you see somebody that you've seen in a movie or TV show.
Growing up in Orlando, like I would meet someone that has a million Instagram followers and you'd be like what yeah crazy yeah yeah, yeah.
And then now you meet them in New York and it's like, oh yeah, I'm an influencer.
And you're like, all right yeah, everybody's an influencer.
Yeah, I guess I think now it's more like, if I really like the thing that you create yeah, I get excited and I don't give a fuck if everybody else at the party doesn't know who the fuck you are.
Like, if I die laughing at a thing that you make, that to me is the qualifier.
You know how much do I just love the content.
Yeah, and that's what really fucking excites me.
Well, that's cool.
Like Rogan will have someone on his podcast that isn't that bit famous yeah, but he'll be like dude, I watch your videos all the time.
You have awesome takes.
This thing you did and you can see he's really enthusiastic about it.
You're like wait, Rogan likes someone that's smaller than him.
Yeah, like you kind of like forget in your brain.
Like oh yeah, he just likes cool shit and isn't thinking about, oh, here's where I am in the social thing, even though you just look at everyone when you're at the bottom is just so much bigger yeah, but he could just.
Yeah, you just look at quality and like oh, what are they making?
That I really respect, yeah.
What is the thing that I love about your content?
Simple as that.
Yeah, it's crazy.
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Soccer Dreams in MLS00:15:23
Let's get back to the show, guys.
Also, we got some dates real quick.
First of all, january 14th, Boston, i'm gonna be at the Wilbert Theater, one of the most iconic venues on the planet most iconic especially, comedy venues on the planet.
I'm so honored to be there.
Thank you, guys.
I cannot wait.
Tickets will sell out, so you need to be Boston, get on it.
Get on that.
Also, january 20th and 21st i'm gonna be in Las Vegas at the Virgin Hotels.
Was Goody shout outs?
Did you pick that?
Yeah dude, they knew, they knew.
Did they really?
Yeah, they knew it was kismet.
Oh, kismet.
Yeah, don't do that.
Do what?
Oh mootsarel, did you?
Just mootsarel?
It's a word we use in Hindi.
I'm gonna say it.
How often do you use kismet when you're talking to your parents?
Kismet sounds disgusting.
How often do you use it when you're talking to your parents?
I'm sure once or twice.
What is kismet?
Kismeth is like Destiny.
He says kismet, which is disgusting.
Huh yeah, you heard that.
Yeah, you heard kismet.
I've never heard this word before.
What you know all the words.
I've never heard the word guy, I know, I know.
I was like Punchline Sacramento home to be there march 9th through 11th, Miami.
I'm coming to our future home.
Get your tickets at AKA Singapa.
It's Gismat.
Man, should we do some feelings, no facts?
Feelings, no facts, dude.
Yeah.
Well, hey, Christian Ronaldo is Muslim now.
They should put that in the deal, man.
A million percent.
Add that to the fine print.
Be like, hey, here's 500 million, wherever the fuck.
Come to Saudi Arabia.
And for two years, you also have to be Muslim.
Wow.
Dude, Andrew Tate is Andrew Tate did it again.
He started an interesting game.
Yeah.
He changed the motherfucking game.
He'd be kind of smart.
So, so this story, what you're saying is, you want to break it down real quick?
Yeah, basically, a Saudi team, Al-Nasir, I think is the name.
I think they just confirmed to say they offered him a multi-hundred million dollar deal.
It's 200 million a year for two years.
Yeah, 200 million a year for two years to play in Saudi Arabia in the Saudi league against only other Saudi teams.
Crazy.
Can I ask you a question?
That's a crazy amount of money.
How, what is negotiations like with a Saudi team?
Where it's like money is not even, it's not even real to you.
I feel like I could say any number I want to until you might behead me.
Yeah.
Is that what it is?
Is that what you're trying to figure out?
Like, what number will make them not feel disrespected and cut my head off?
Yeah.
200 million.
Why can't you say 201 million?
500 million a year.
Who cares?
You could just go up by million dollar increments and they'd be like, all right, fine.
You know what I mean?
Like, why not?
Yeah.
It means nothing.
He should ask for $500 million a year.
I bet they just said yes.
Yeah.
Messi, if you go to the Saudi team, $500 million a year.
What's weird about this is that, like, for example, Beckham's deal, he came to LA Galaxy way back in the day.
This is like 10 years ago now, probably.
And I think he got crazy money.
It was like a record-breaking deal.
And I think he got a piece of the MLS.
He got the entire MLS.
I think it was a piece of the league.
The entire league?
Piece of the league.
And then he got the option to buy a team at any point in the future at a capped price of $25 million.
Holy shit.
Like, insane.
Say the Miami team or something like that?
Insane deal.
Like, he got so much value.
I don't think you can ascribe the same value.
I mean, granted, the MLS is different, but in fairness, most of the MLS teams are profitable.
Whereas in Europe, there's a lot of teams that are not profitable.
So I'm like, okay, even if you buy an MLS franchise, it might not be that big and it might not be that successful, but it'll make money.
And you have an actual asset.
For Cristiano, he's like, okay, I'm going to go there, get a bunch of money, but you can't really leverage to like own a part of the league.
And I don't know enough about the Saudi league to think, oh, is there like a deal where he can own the team?
And would that actually be an asset that's worth having?
I feel like they're not giving up ownership of nothing, bro.
They even let their wives drive cars of the team.
But you could ask for any amount of money.
I feel like why would you want ownership of a Saudi team?
Well, maybe there's money in it.
I don't know.
Wait, what's that?
Maybe there's crazy money.
No, you're right.
But I assume everything is just propped up.
But listen, 200 million, so 400 million or five or whatever it is.
Are you telling me that it's not worth for him to come to the U.S. and get a piece of, I don't even know if it's the MLS, but if it's fucking the Miami team?
What if he came?
This is what I would do if I'm him.
But maybe he's too competitive.
Wherever Messi's going, which is, I think, like FC Miami or something like that, I would go too.
I join FC Miami with Messi.
Oh, that'd be crazy.
I'd say I want a piece of the team.
Dabby Krupp.
Messi, you get a piece of the team.
This is going to be the most popular team in the world now.
Maybe in South Green history.
In history.
We're playing on the same team in fucking my I'd go back to our basil.
I go back to our basil for that.
That's the only condition that I go to.
I would say, give me a team.
I'm taking ownership of a new team, and it's me and Messi.
We're co-owners 50-50.
That'd be a great idea, too.
Miami's the perfect city for the both of them.
They're both Spanish speakers.
They both are probably way more familiar with like kind of, well, definitely Messi South American culture.
I mean, they both got famous through the Spanish league.
Absolutely.
Like Real Madrid.
Yeah.
I mean, this would be, this to me is such a no-brainer.
Are you going to make less money now?
Sure.
I don't want to ever tell somebody he doesn't need more money, but you probably have half a billion dollars or something already.
Yeah, you could take a hundred million dollar deal now to then have it be worth another half a billion in 10 years or whatever.
You're getting that piece.
MLS is only going to explode, especially after what you guys do.
Now, he could still technically do that.
After two more years?
Do get a half a billion dollars in Saudi Arabia and then at 39, go play in the MLS.
It's two years of you also missing out on the brand deals you can get in the U.S. that Messi's going to get.
I mean, he ain't got no $200 million brand deals.
That's the thing.
No, no, add them all together.
No matter what you got from the MLS, could it come close to 200 to 450 million or whatever you want?
Unless you get part of the team or an option or something.
Even then.
Even then, what are you selling an MLS team for?
80 million?
I'm just lowballing it.
It's skyrocketing right now.
So get in early.
I think you'll be fine.
Yeah, the big franchises are actually pretty good.
Like LA Galaxy is worth a lot.
I mean, I'm just saying Miami, it seems to me, is a perfect place for a soccer team.
Yeah.
Basketball, nobody shows up.
Yeah.
Because Miami is the Latin American version of the United States of America.
Just like I've said this before.
Hawaii is the Asian version of the United States of America.
The things that are popular in Asia are going to succeed in Hawaii.
Okay.
Simple as that.
The things that are popular in Latin America are going to succeed in Miami.
Simple as that.
There's one comedy club in Miami.
Stand-up isn't popular in South America yet.
Right?
Of course, there's just going to be one.
Yeah.
Right.
I guarantee that.
These are March 11 through 13th.
But Messi can be in New York, Spanish speakers.
LA would be a pretty big.
And by the way, values on the teams, LAFC that just won $900 million.
Oh, shit.
Galaxy 865.
I am completely.
Atlanta 855.
No, no, the sport, I think I want to check it, but it's a pastrainer.
NHL is like it's after, you know.
Bro, get a piece of the team.
You both get a piece.
Even if you don't play with each other, with each other is just crazy because who's going to not go to that game?
We have to go.
If you have the opportunity, you have to go.
Yeah, it does crazy for the whole league.
Can they play well together?
I don't know, like, their game is enough.
I mean, I mean, probably.
I'm not going to say they can't, especially in the MLS.
Like, they're both so many leagues above the entire league.
But stylistically, there's certain NBA players that you can't have them play with each other.
I don't know.
It would be tricky because both the teams, like, you're ideally trying to build the team around the stars.
And if you have two stars, is it tricky to build the rest of the players?
Did they used to have a rule, though?
Like, you could pay one player X and then the second player.
You break the rule.
And then it's even across.
You break the MLS and be like, all right.
Because every single game.
But yeah, I think he was right.
And a lot of European basketball teams do this.
You can have like tops four American players.
Yeah.
And then the rest have to come from the rest of the world or your country.
But yeah, every game they play anywhere they play is sold out.
And then you can take them globally, just like in the offseason, be like, hey, we're going to go do a match in Saudi Arabia and wherever.
We'll play Liverpool in Saudi Arabia.
I mean, this is just.
I've gone to those, like at the Coliseum just.
It's the Harlem Globetrotters at that point.
You get Cristiano and Messi on the same team, but he could still technically do that.
And maybe they're too competitive to play together, but.
Maybe, or maybe they finally just want to.
It's fun.
They don't give a fuck about playing in America, right?
This is just a bag that you're going to cash.
And I mean, this just seems like such a fucking no-brainer.
But he could still do it.
He could go two years, make crazy money, and then come back and be like, hey, I have all the leverage.
Like, you can't offer me enough money.
You got to offer me equity.
Yeah, but at least now there's this feeling that they're, yeah, they're not in their prime, but they're not too far removed.
Right.
They're still playing World Cups.
They're still competitive.
They're still scoring goals.
Messi's still scoring in the World Cup, right?
Like at 39, you know, last thing we want to do is see Wash Messi and Ronaldo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what it was like with Beckham, right?
We saw Wash Beckham.
He won a championship, though.
Yeah.
No, I mean, he was competitive, but like you're getting everyone out of their quote-unquote prime.
Yeah.
Who's the other guy that came in the French dude?
Black dude.
In Bappet?
In the MLS?
No.
Totary on replay.
Yeah, on replay to New York.
Zlatan Ibrahimovich.
Yeah.
Son, Zlatan came to LA.
This is the most fire story.
Zlatan Ibrahimovich, like all-time confidence human being.
Comes to LA and he takes an article out in the LA Times and it goes, LA, you're welcome.
Zlatan is here or something like that.
Whole page article.
Fire.
He gets sent a jersey from LeBron James.
Yeah.
Signs it, sends it back to the watch.
That's fire.
Is that not the most lost?
Oh my God, that's good.
LeBron sends you a jersey.
Like, who?
How big was he?
He must need an autograph.
Like, I mean, is he bigger than LeBron theoretically?
Global?
Zlatan is so much more global?
Globally, probably.
Probably globally, yeah.
I mean, he was an elite player for Barca.
Yeah, he played for AC Milan.
I mean, he kind of like went all over.
Yeah.
He's kind of older, too.
He's like 40, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, that's kind of interesting.
I still think I think Ronaldo does.
And it looks like Messi is confirmed to go to Miami.
I mean, why would Ronaldo go to Miami too?
Or go to another team for America.
You're projecting.
I am.
Yeah, the last thing you want to do is go to the Middle East.
You're like, go to Miami.
Bypose was hilarious.
He goes to the Galaxy fans, you wanted Zlatan.
I gave you Zlatan.
You're welcome.
The story continues.
Now go back to watch baseball.
With that grammar, too.
Just legend.
Yeah, he's a legend.
All right, look, while we're talking about all this soccer stuff, listen, let's do these World Cup predictions.
Well, let's do this World Cup prediction.
We got some big matches coming up.
Some big simulations of war.
Yeah.
England going up against France.
Yeah, France got that.
That's a dub.
You think that's easy?
Easy dub.
First time they've ever won.
What do you mean?
First time I've ever won a war against England?
Did they?
Have they never won a war against England?
Have they ever won a war again?
I don't know if you've ever.
Napoleon got to win a war somewhere.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, Napoleon must have killed the English in some capacity.
I don't know enough about Napoleon and the Napoleonic Wars, but I think he got it.
I don't think so.
Maybe he fought the English off of his land, but I don't think that France ever ran England.
Bro, Napoleon owned a bunch of shit.
Watch.
I'm about to look this up.
Napoleon ran it.
Watch.
You know how soft is France that they locked his successful ass up?
That's crazy, dog.
But also, was Napoleon like the Hitler of his time?
Look.
Apparently, yeah, you said this.
Before people say, oh, he's like Hitler, they used to say, oh, he's like Napoleon.
Wow.
Yeah.
Before Hitler was like a history story.
So they did the right thing.
Yeah.
They exiled him.
Yeah, yeah.
Castle.
Wow.
And do you think that's how people saw Alexander the Great?
I mean, probably.
And Attila the Hun.
You know what?
He branded himself so well, though.
The Great.
I think you're like Genghis Khan, apparently.
My dad told me he used to slaughter one village and try to make it so awful that they would tell the next village and they would just surrender as soon as he got there.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
You probably do it with any like empire, though.
Because empire, in order to be an empire, you got to kill mad people.
And then once the empire gets dethroned, then you're like, yeah, that old dictator sucked.
Wow.
Eventually, if one day America doesn't exist, people will be like, yeah, that guy was like fucking Clinton.
You know what I mean?
Because you'll just bring up some guy like George W. Bush.
You just killed a bunch of people.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Fuck.
Yeah, dude.
So, but they're going to bring him up in a positive light.
Seems like that's what they do with Napoleon.
What?
No.
Napoleon syndrome?
If someone called you a Napoleon complex.
You're a real Napoleon, dude.
Bro, I thought Napoleon was the guy that was inside Notre Dame forever.
Quasi's.
The hunchback.
Yeah, but I don't know.
They were like little.
Who's a dream?
Napoleon allegedly is short.
But even that's not true.
That was propaganda.
How tall was he?
I think he was like 5'8 or something.
But for the time, he was doing great.
But apparently, it's like English propaganda.
Take 5'8 now, be honest.
Yeah, yeah.
You can use an inch.
Yeah, allegedly.
I don't know if that's true, but that's what I've heard.
Okay, listen, we got this World Cup shit going down.
So you think that France got it?
Easy dub.
Easy dub.
Let's see.
You know, we got Croatia versus Brazil.
That's Brazil, right?
Brazil just smoked Korea.
So why don't they just let their women mud wrestle?
Why don't you just do Croatian women versus Brazilian women mud wrestling?
I think the Croatians would have done that.
I would bet on that.
I would definitely bet on that.
Where would you bet on that?
Ooh, because I don't think Bet Online has that.
Horswrestling.com.
That's horse wrestling, yeah.
That's right.
But horse wrestling or horse wrestling?
Horse horsewrestling.com.
If we wanted to bet on the World Cup, these games coming up, we could easily do it at betonline.ag.
And you know, they're going to match 50% of your initial deposit bonus up to $1,000.
So if I put in $1,000, you get $500 free to gamble.
Now, right now, they do not have the infrastructure built out to do horrors wrestling.
Yeah.
But I think that we should do a world slut.
And they have, you do every four years, you have the world slut, and then you do just mud wrestling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would be crazy.
But only select nations.
You're not going to put everyone in there.
Yeah, okay.
I think that's great.
You know what I mean?
Scotland.
Scotland.
I don't know if anybody wants to see all that.
Nobody wants to see all that.
No, you know, losing qualifications.
100%.
And also, I don't know if India, you want to do it because the guys watching, they're seeing mud and women, and they just might not be able to control themselves.
We're pretty comfy in the mud, to be honest.
I think we'd win, too.
Okay, so there's too much of an advantage.
So we have to be very specific with how we book this.
No India, no Scotland.
Okay, I'm fine.
Do you feel with that?
Yeah, that's the deal.
Who fills out the bracket?
You got Morocco, Spain, and Portugal, Switzerland playing.
Soccer and mud wrestling.
Honestly, if you're going Morocco and Spain and mud, the hair, it's too much.
It's going to be too much.
I think you're going to have a lot of drowned women.
So Spain wins in the mud wrestle.
I think they're pretty.
They could, they, yeah.
And in the soccer.
They might.
I think Spain wins.
I think Portugal wins.
And I think that we're doing Spain, Portugal.
It's just war.
That's all we want is war.
Yeah.
It's going to be Spain against Portugal.
I mean.
England-France is going to be hype.
That's going to be hype.
That's going to be hype.
Crypto Lottery Winners00:07:32
Winner of England-France versus Portugal-Spain.
No, it's winner.
No, I'm going to go.
I'm going even further.
It's winner of Netherlands, Argentina.
Do you know how brackets work, though?
On the bottom.
Bottom, stupid.
Bottom right, stupid.
Yeah, you're kind of wrong on this one.
No, the winger of England-France plays a winner of Netherlands and Argentina.
Oh, no, you're right.
I'm a dummy.
No, no, no.
I'm wrong.
No, keep looking at it.
Keep looking at it.
I'm wrong.
I'm wrong for sure.
You know what's not on there?
India.
Nowhere near.
Just driving it, dude.
Billions of people.
Imagine winning an argument and then still being unlikable.
How'd you do that?
That's crazy.
That's so impressive.
What do you think they're doing out there in India, right?
Rocketside or my American side.
You tell me.
What are they doing in India right now, Definitely?
Yeah.
What are they doing in India right now?
I was just asking.
What are you doing?
You said they're not there, so what are they doing?
I don't know.
What activity are they doing?
Say again.
Something like this Indian.
That's actually fair.
That's actually fair.
No, I think, to be honest, who wins it all?
No joke.
I think Argentina got it this year.
I hope so, dude.
I think Argentina.
That'd be a great story.
And what about in soccer?
I think it all in.
Oh, in soccer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh.
You're thinking of mud wrestling?
Yeah, I was thinking of mud wrestling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's France-Portugal.
No, it's France-Brazil in the finals.
I mean, what a final.
Amazing.
What a final.
Amazing.
And then who takes it?
France.
Mbappe.
Easy dub.
Mbappe.
I mean, he's unbelievable.
He really is.
Did you see the last game?
He just got the ball on the top of the 18, turned, and just put it in the goal.
Everyone else was like, it doesn't matter what you do.
It's just going to go on.
So he's tied now with in terms of goals with Ronaldo?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he's leading leaders.
I thought Messi has the most goals.
I don't know how a bracket works.
He's pulling some time.
I'm still in it, man.
I think I got it now.
Challenge is your whole world.
Akash is a sports guy.
You took me man long.
Sports are your identity.
I know, man.
This is embarrassing to be aware of.
You get tripped up.
I ain't gonna lie.
All right, give us another question before we, or another topic before we focus on this anymore.
This is very embarrassing for Akash.
We got to move on to something else, not sports related.
Yeah, yeah.
Can you give us something?
Yeah, let's do this one.
Crypto guys are dying.
Arkash is next.
Dude, I'm worried.
You know what I mean?
I think they're coming for me.
Thank God I just lose my crypto instead of my life.
Yeah.
If you get killed, it's your wife.
Look no further.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's this is crazy, man.
So, I mean, I don't know necessarily if all these are confirmed, but it looks like four different like crypto whales, quote unquote, like people that billionaires in crypto.
Yeah, like high-value crypto people are all dying of like semi-mysterious circumstances.
One's found in a hotel room, one guy like dies in like a trip or something.
Yeah.
And these are just kind of getting memeified and put on social.
And it seems like, oh, all these crypto guys are dying all around the same time.
It's kind of suspicious.
Has there been a group of people that there has been less empathy for their deaths ever?
I mean, maybe like a king somewhere.
Yeah.
Nazis, probably.
Yeah, Hitler.
I wasn't particularly suspicious.
Isn't that crazy that they're next to Nazis?
Yeah.
Like these guys die.
And I feel like there's some people that are like kind of happy.
Yeah.
But people don't feel this way about lottery winners.
That's the only thing.
Lottery winners that are dying.
Yeah.
Can I tell you the honest thing?
Lottery winners are less obnoxious about it.
Yo, they win the lottery.
They won't be.
I think they're lucky.
These guys win.
They're like, I'm a genius.
Like smarter than you.
Crypto genius.
They knew all these things.
Bullets.
That's a good point.
That's a great point.
Also, there's, I mean, the idea in my head is that everybody made all the money on crypto except me.
Right?
Like, I think I feel that.
Do you not feel that way a little bit?
Like, everybody got rich on crypto.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
So lottery, I haven't met anybody that won the lottery.
Yeah.
The friends that I went to high school with didn't win the fucking lottery.
And if they all did, not me, I'd hope they died too.
That's true.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's valid.
It's absolutely fucking furious.
It's a valid.
But also, you lost on crypto.
It's not even, you just spent a $100.
Yeah, exactly.
That actually makes me feel good.
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes me feel good.
It makes me feel good.
Is it you've lost?
Is it equal and opposite, though?
Is the rage that you're going to be losing?
No, I've lost more billions than I've made, but I'm still a billionaire.
I don't know the math, how it checks out, but is it equal and opposite?
When Akash was making all this money on crypto, the rage that you felt, is it opposite?
You feel the same joy as the loss that I feel.
I'm going to be honest with you, the rage was way more.
The rage was way more.
I don't actually feel happy that you're losing money, but I don't feel sad at all.
Like, I don't feel sad.
You feel glad, maybe?
Yeah.
I don't think about it when I do.
Which is good.
It brings a smile on my face.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, I go, you'll breathe air out your nose.
Oh, man.
I'm glad.
I'm glad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Help each other out a bit, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I don't want you to die.
When I think about you smiling, and then I think about the fact that I'm the reason you lost the money on Bitcoin, I feel good.
I feel better, right?
Everyone's happy.
That's beautiful.
It's going to come back.
It's going to come back.
But yeah, I think that's the, I think the real story is why no one feels bad.
No one even wants it to be researched.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you just want it to be true.
This is fiat propaganda.
That's what it is.
That's really what it is.
Big fiat.
Is the Federal Reserve being like, push the stories out, get people thinking, oh, you buy crypto, you're going to die.
That's what's going on.
Now, here's the thing: do you think this is some cartel shit?
In other words, these guys in the crypto, you know, these guys in the crypto world are talking to cartel people, like, listen, you got all this cash.
You can't, you know, you can't spend that cash.
You can't put that cash in the bank.
People are going to find it.
Maybe you want to dump it in crypto.
It's a safe place for you to make tons of gains.
Now, all of a sudden, it goes to zero.
The cartel guys don't operate the same way that we do.
Yeah, they're not holding on for dear life.
They're not doing New York Times interviews with SBF, right?
They're going and saying, Hey, listen, get in this helicopter.
I can't get in.
That shit might crash.
But wouldn't they make it look like a sign, though?
I feel like cartel people are not exactly known for being like nuanced or subtle.
They'll be like, They're like, We're going to kill you and put your head on a stick.
That's true also.
And then hang you from the bridge so that everyone can see.
That guy felt like we still wouldn't care.
We're going to roll your head down the street.
Yeah, I think you would smile more.
I think you'd, I think you'd do a whole ha ha ha.
Yeah, I'm genuinely.
Is there anybody that feels bad about this?
I can't find one.
Usually, if there's a story of somebody dying, I think it's a little crazy.
There's no GoFundMe.
No.
No, I, you know, boot liquor, bro.
You're a bootlicker, dude.
You're a boot liquor.
How dare you, Dove?
Isn't that crazy?
I don't even know any of their names.
Yeah, me neither.
There's been four of them.
Son, a lot of people be getting killed.
I got to know all their names.
Faking their death.
Is that possible?
You get all this money.
Everyone's hitting you up, especially if you're in a poor country.
Everyone's like, well, that's what I'm saying.
You just fake your death, die, and then you're like, dude, I'm just going to take my 200 million, go to Saudi Arabia, play some soccer.
You know what I mean?
No, you could just like fake your death and then go away.
Ooh, but we would be able to see everything's on the blockchain.
We would be able to see if they're spending that money.
Yeah, but give it to your family.
It's in a trust.
Give it to your friends, something like that.
You see high water.
Yeah, exactly.
You don't see where it goes.
You just saw a great movie.
How good is that movie?
Gov. Taylor Sheridan, The GOAT.
Great movie.
I want to see the will.
If the will is like, oh, I'm going to pass this off to my brother that also has a similar name as me that looks just like me.
I want to know that shit.
Is that possible?
Because that doesn't think it's happening genuinely.
Not really.
It's a fun theory, though.
It is a fun theory.
I'm a grifter.
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Okay.
Do you not know this about me?
No.
I'm a conspiracy grifter.
Okay.
Go.
I see stuff.
I come up with cool conspiracies.
I kick it around in the Ethernet.
Let the web take it.
The chance.
Yeah, exactly.
For money.
That way one day I can buy crypto.
Yeah.
What is going to happen with crypto?
Is it coming back a bit or what?
I do think it will come back, but last time it was down for years before it came back.
So I'm not soon.
Yeah, I'm holding.
I mean, you, you know, do whatever you want because my advice to you has always been wrong.
So do whatever you want.
All right.
I'm a hold.
Hey, G's up, dude.
G's up.
I just think you don't know how to sell.
Yeah.
Also, that I can't get into my Coinbase.
So I got to hold.
Oh, I put all mine on a drive this Thanksgiving.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, not the ones that are in BlockFi and whatever the fuck else Voyager, but I can help you theoretically.
Yeah, I need that help.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm going to do that.
I got that shit.
Okay.
One more, and then we out of here.
All right, Twitter files.
Elon Musk told Matt Taibbi that Hunter's dick has to be off Twitter.
Yeah.
The most interesting thing about the Twitter story is that I thought the big expose was going to be about how there was one bias with Twitter.
And it looks like the bias existed both ways.
Exactly.
There's just way more liberal employees at Twitter.
And the things that they were canceling or silencing really had to do with your access to Twitter employees.
So the Republicans had their guys there, girls, and the Democrats had their guys or girls.
It just, there were way more liberals that would work at Twitter.
I mean, yeah.
So to me, I'm like, all right, this is more, this is a non-issue almost.
Yeah.
What do you think Silicon Valley is going to be?
So I guess what people are frustrated with, and what Matt Taibbi highlighted, if people don't know, is basically like Elon went through the internal back end of what's going on as far as Twitter censorship, told Matt Taibbi, who's an independent journalist, what's going on.
And then he put it on a thread on Twitter, basically saying that the Biden administration, specifically around the Hunter Biden laptop leak, was messaging internally with Twitter employees being like, hey, can you take down this tweet or this link because it's violating their hacked material policy?
Yep.
Well, yeah, hacked material and also revenge porn.
But there was like a few excuses they were using that weren't even working.
Like they were basically going through their constitution and then finding reasons why they should be able to take it down.
So they were scratching backs, right?
Which is fucked up.
But he also points out, Tai B also points out that they were also scratching Republican backs.
Yeah.
Just not as much.
So I guess this is like a, you know, interesting, I don't want to say pay-to-play situation, but as long as you have some connect over there at Twitter, you can get some shit taken down.
I do understand the frustration, though.
With what?
Like, I understand how people feel like this validates a liberal slant to social media and like censorship.
Well, there is 100% liberal slant to social media.
I just think the slants, okay.
I don't think there's a liberal slant as much as there is a liberal employee slant.
And because of that employee slant, you're going to get those relationships that have been built and people serving those relationships.
Yeah.
Right.
It's not like, hey, you're at Twitter.
We have a liberal ideology.
And this is the same thing with Hollywood.
There's the same thing in a lot of businesses.
This is not like there's a meeting where it's like, we are going to push liberal ideology down people's throats.
It's simply there are people in power positions that are liberal and they're going to serve other people.
In this case, the Democrats.
And they're going to serve their ideologies.
There are also people in power positions that are Republican and they were serving Republicans, just far fewer.
So if you want to rectify the situation, you can, I guess, hire 50-50 or you find a different way that you can kind of police your own employees.
Yeah, I think the cronyism is what frustrates people.
Yes.
They're like, oh, these people are just like helping their friends that are elites and all the elites.
Yeah, no, I think all the elites will help each other.
That's the thing that I'm trying to say.
I guess that's for me with Hollywood.
I thought it was the same thing.
I thought it was like, hey, here's what we're doing.
The agenda is trans.
Put it in all the movies.
Here's what we're doing.
The agenda is gay mirror.
Put it in all the movies.
And it doesn't exactly work like that.
What happens is maybe there's a lot more gay fucking writers or something like that.
And because of that, that ideology gets put into scripts and then nobody wants to push bash on it, back on it because they don't want to lose their job, et cetera.
So yeah, I think that we assume things are organized in the most nefarious way.
There was this plot that everyone in America knew about to take down the towers.
And it was everybody from George Bush to Dick Cheney and all these senators.
And they all knew about it and they organized it and they executed it.
Instead of there's a plot by these other people who wanted to do it.
And maybe there were rough links that this thing could happen and they didn't act on it.
But I don't think there was a bunch of people in a room, Americans, going, this is how we're going to do it.
This is how we're going to start the war in Iraq.
Maybe they took advantage of an absolutely horrible thing that happened.
Maybe they had information that it was going to happen.
They ignored it.
But I don't know if they planned it themselves.
Right.
Oh, some Pearl Harbor shit.
They said the same thing about Pearl Harbor, which is like, they might have known that this thing was going to happen.
They're like, how do we use a tragedy?
But to act as if they're the ones in control of it, as if Twitter itself was like, hey, this is the goal.
This is the objective.
Top down.
Hey, Jack Dorsey, what do you want to do?
Hide the Biden story.
We got to ride with, hide the Hunter story.
We got to ride with Biden.
We got to win this election for the Democrats, which is kind of how it was pushed at.
Did you not feel that that was how it was pushed out?
Yeah.
And I don't think that that could very well be the case at like New York Times where they just didn't really talk about it.
It could very well be the case.
But with this, it didn't move the needle for me because like you said, they're doing it on both sides.
It's just a company based in Silicon Valley.
There's going to be a lot more liberals.
What do you expect?
Also, both liberals and conservatives.
Are you getting off this fucking app?
You complain about it all the time.
Republicans think it's biased word liberals.
Liberals think Elon took over and it's going to be filled with hate speech.
Y'all still using this shit.
Find another app.
Go to TrueSocial.
Whatever you want to do.
But you're not getting off.
I'm just tired of all this fucking shit.
And nobody's going to truth social.
Nobody's going to rumble.
No one's going to parlor or any of these fucking places.
You're not doing it.
You say you're going to do it.
Yeah.
But I think what happens is like in the absence of any sort of like moderation, you just get the people that are trying to troll the hardest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you're in that, you're in that app, right?
And you're just covered with all this nonsense and you start to like miss the moderation.
Yeah, yeah.
But it probably pulls you more toward the middle.
You're like, God damn, these guys are crazy.
Yeah.
Because you're only getting the lunatics that can't say whatever crazy shit they want to say on the regular app.
So it is a weird thing.
It's like, as long as you understand why you have, I mean, I can't believe I'm even saying this, but there are certain like moderations with, is it moderation?
Am I using the wrong word?
There are certain ways that you monitor free speech.
Like even in America, you can't yell a fire in a crowded theater or whatever like that.
They had to learn that the hard way.
There are people taking advantage of free speech and then people are fucking dying.
And so they're like, okay, let's put in a couple little tiny rules.
And I think this is what every company goes through.
It's what every city goes through.
You know, you can have free speech in Montana.
You're never going to hear your neighbor speak.
You know, they're four acres away.
Yeah.
Yeah.
In New York, turn off your music at 10.
Is it confirmed that Twitter was helping to like take off fraudulent tweets and stuff like that for Republicans?
Yeah.
He says it.
It's in the thread.
He says it was happening for both.
It was just happening.
He gives me the example.
Gotcha.
There's just way more liberal employees.
Right.
So it's happening way more for the Democrats.
Just happening through interpersonal connection, you mean?
Seems like it.
Yeah.
Email in your, let me email my guy and we'll see if we can have him take care of it.
Gotcha.
But government people who are congressmen.
That was my thing is like Twitter is a private company and the Biden administration, especially at that time, was a private organization.
Like they weren't, he wasn't president at the time.
Trump was president.
So it's like you have two private organizations that are working together to try to make this thing happen.
It doesn't seem like it's in a violation.
There's government officials on both sides that were done.
And I understand the spirit that you like there were people.
Look, if you look at the thread, they say the name.
I'm forgetting it right now, but it was a Republican congressman asking for something specifically to be done.
Right.
And then it being executed.
And I'm sure on the Democrat side as well.
But I hear what your argument is.
Like private organizations can lobby a private business.
Right.
But when you see government officials doing it, now it's proof that big tech and government are working to suppress speech, both liberal and Democratic.
Right.
And that is a little bit difficult, right?
You're like, uh-oh.
Now we think of these social media platforms as like a utility.
We think of them like gas or electric or water.
But like you said earlier, they're not.
They are private companies.
Should they be allowed to do that thing?
Or do you get so robust that eventually you have to be governed by the same principles of the Constitution?
Right.
Which is a different combo.
And I'm actually skeptical that Republicans would be like, oh yeah, this should be seen as a public good.
Let it be run and like sort of sanctioned by the government.
I can't imagine they want it to be running.
They want more government influence.
Yeah, I would be surprised if they would want it to be regulated in that way.
But at the same time, I do get the frustration where it's like, we felt like they're fucking always against us.
All the liberal media, blah, blah, blah.
Like the rhetoric that people kick around.
And then you see this and you're like, fucking proof.
Yeah.
There it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I will say the interesting thing, someone actually brought this up and I was like, what is the likelihood that the laptop was dropped off at the Delaware like repair shop?
Like that's the part of the story that I always heard that I was like, oh yeah, probably.
But I was like, who brings a laptop to like a repair shop and then never fixes it?
I was like, is it more likely that his like iCloud got hacked?
Yeah.
And then like they just got all this stuff.
And then instead of being like, oh yeah, this one.
Or someone stole his shit.
Yeah, that's what I assume.
But I think if you say it's stolen, then it's harder to run the story.
Yeah, you can't you have to say he dropped it off.
So you have to say, but you're right.
Who's ever dropped off a laptop for repair?
And then just like never picked it up.
You gotta have some great crack photos.
I gotta get back.
Just not like a random thing.
That's the one part of it that I didn't completely understand.
So I think it's probably more likely like someone hacked it, sold it to New York Post or whoever else, like ran the story, and then they're like, fuck, we can't run this, but it's so good.
So what is the best kind of thing we can wrap around it?
And then Hunter's not going to come out and be like, no, that part's not true.
I was smoking crack in my iCloud.
You know what I mean?
Because I don't think they've said anything about it.
Have the Biden administration or Hunter or anyone come out and denounced it or said it's not true or anything?
I haven't necessarily heard that.
So I think they just kind of were like, okay, let's kind of make up a story to make it seem like it wasn't stolen, that it was they left.
If the pictures are forgotten somewhere, then we can use it.
I don't know.
This is again.
That makes more sense.
Conspiracy grifter, bro.
You know what I mean?
I'm just making shit up, coming up with conspiracy.
That makes sense.
Right?
That's what I'm saying.
It all makes sense.
Exactly.
Right, dude.
I'm with you.
Why can't you share information on Twitter like that?
Why can't you share people's private information?
We see videos of people's private shit go viral all the time on Twitter, so it seems like a convenient time to take it down.
I guess they just have access to the people.
But if you were getting in a fight on the street, you didn't give your consent for that video to get shared all over fucking Twitter.
I think if it's public and you're in public street, you can be filmed.
Oh, they don't think that's a violation of the law.
That makes sense.
Also, if you're hacking into somebody's shit and taking it off of their hard drive or off of their whatever.
That's why, like, all of them.
I mean, I like that rule for me.
I wouldn't want someone to hack my shit share all over Twitter.
I'll definitely tell them to take that shit down.
All these feedbacks.
What the fuck?
Remember the fappeting happened?
Yeah.
Found all those people's pictures.
Those pictures, like, if you post them to Twitter, will be pretty quickly taken down because they're already ran through a filter.
As dope as that was.
Twitter doesn't allow that.
It's good that they don't do that.
That's a good limit.
Yeah.
Right there.
That's a good rule that Twitter has.
Yeah.
Twitter's going to be fine.
The idea that you think Elon Musk, who makes fucking rockets that are going to go to Mars, can't figure a social media app out.
Well, it is social, and he's a little.
Yeah, but these tech guys ain't social either.
It's not like these other motherfuckers are the best at a conversationalist you've ever seen.
All these fucking nerds from Silicon Valley can't hold a conversation.
Yeah.
But you see geniuses in one thing that are not geniuses in other things.
Like who?
I don't know, some rappers sometimes will be really good at making beats.
I just don't think you have to be a genius to figure out Twitter.
Yeah.
Just let the people tweet the things.
Find the limit that works the best for the brand and for everybody else.
It becomes the source for news.
You don't have to do this whole badge and all that kind of shit.
I don't think anybody cares.
Build a user base up to a billion people and then find a way to monetize it.
The issue is that if your like MO is, oh, I'm going to disrupt and like change up and drain the swamp.
And then you get in there and realize that everything was kind of running the way it was supposed to be.
And then you get in there and you're like, oh shit.
Do I default on what I said before and don't change anything and keep it exactly the way it was, which was running pretty good?
Or do I go in there and change it up and then affect it in order to pacify my own like declaration before?
And how do you make money on it?
You change it up enough.
Well, number one, you change it up enough, right?
You let back a few people that were banned for reasons you didn't think were fair.
Yeah.
And you immediately re-banned them because they didn't fuck it up.
Yeah, re-banned them, but at least you put out what is at the olive branch, right?
To the people who thought that Twitter was stupid.
Well, also just to the base who's like, you know, Twitter's only canceling one type of people.
We're going to give them another shot.
Kanye goes out and posts a fucking swastika.
Nobody's like, let him back on.
But they're like, yeah, he was acting like an asshole on this platform.
We're not going to fucking do it.
You said, how do you make money on it?
Yeah.
Maybe there's a subscription model for the corporations that use it.
And I think that is a lot to recoup, is all I'm saying.
100%.
But I think, one, you're working with valuation, not actual money that you're making.
And having one platform where a billion people are on and everybody can have a conversation at the exact same time is incredibly valuable.
It is.
I also, though.
Never before in history have people been able to speak about events in real time to each other in one place.
You can text back and forth, but it can't exist in a public fucking place.
Yeah.
Like that's a pretty awesome thing.
It is.
It is incredible and historic.
Yeah.
My feeling when Elon bought it was like, it's $44 billion you're paying, which is a lot of money, even for you.
And then if he puts in all this work and then sells it for $50 billion, that's not worth shit to Elon Musk.
Maybe a billion profit.
I don't think that this is about profiting.
I think if he wanted to just profit, then he would just focus on his many other business ventures that will make him way more money.
I think this is, you genuinely think this is the right thing to do.
And he's trying to do, he's trying to use his power and influence to do the right thing.
That's given him best case scenario.
But I genuinely, because of the scenario you just proposed, which is just very hard to make tons of money on this, he has to think that there is like a moral obligation or ethical obligation.
He went against the car companies.
He went against, I mean, NASA because they just dogged him.
And now he's going against the media companies.
But also dog him.
So it gives him like...
Hey, that could be enough, but to set up the, or to set up the scenario that Mark just said, where he gets there, he truly thinks he's going to make a difference.
And he's like, oh, I don't, me making a difference actually fuck things up.
Things need to run this way.
Now what's all this for?
You're not really going to make money.
You're going to be there away from Tesla, away from SpaceX.
It just didn't seem like a smart move for me.
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But then you have control over the marketplace.
Like richest man in the world, like get into information.
The MSNBC shit, like the MS is Microsoft.
Bill Gates is like, yeah, let's get a little piece.
Amazon.
Bezos gets Washington Post.
Like he did the smartest thing.
It's like instead of buying one of these news networks, you buy the place that the news goes on.
Yeah, yeah.
If you own the marketplace, it's like, yeah, you're invincible.
It's like Elon or like Bezos is like, I'm not going to own books.
I'm going to own the place that you sell everything.
It's like, yeah.
You break the game.
Yeah.
I'm going to own the website hosting.
Like, that's the internet.
He owns the internet.
He found a way to buy the fucking internet.
Isn't that crazy?
I think I brought this up.
The most clever shit that Amazon ever patented was the one-click purchase.
Did I tell you this?
Like, they created it in like the early 2000s, like the one-click purchase where all your info and card stuff is all stored.
And so you see something you like and go one click and then it's coming to your home.
It's terrifying.
They patented it and Apple licenses it from Bezos.
So all these other companies, any other place you see a one-click purchase, Amazon owns that.
So they get paid every time you one-click the purchase.
And that's even if it's not on Amazon.
Dude, having to type in my credit card information will almost make me not buy stuff.
Truly.
Yeah.
When I see Apple Pay just pop up as an option, where is my credit?
Shopping cart?
No, I don't want to buy the shopping cart.
I just saw this to buy now.
Just buy.
Dude, Amazon, you can buy things so fast that I remember the first few times I was like, did I buy it?
Like, I needed like an email confirmation or something to let me know I actually knocked.
It's at the corner.
It's at the door.
How?
How did it do that?
Bro, they don't even ask you if you sure.
You might have confidence to shop on Amazon.
Yeah, yeah.
I need to.
But that's the best part, though.
Even if you're not confident, like you have like a day and you're like, actually, I changed my mind.
Yeah, it's just the whole thing of just like, get it now and think about it.
You know, just to have it.
Just see.
Yeah.
I mean, it's brilliant.
I wonder how many news organizations are on, are on, what's it called?
Are on Twitter.
And I wonder if he could charge all of them $10 a month.
Every news organization.
I can't imagine.
I wonder how many are in the world.
Yeah.
Outside of like state-run shit and executing or something.
And it's like, every single one of them would pay $10 a month.
And you can get your own little news badge or whatever the fuck it is.
And, you know, the platform would make you adhere to the rules of any like news organization that exists on Twitter.
But to me, you might be able to start making some serious fucking revenue right there.
$10 is nothing when you're writing it off to the corporation.
Yeah.
But for every single account, you can do 10 for every single account.
CNN, you need...
If there's $100,000, you're making a million dollars a month.
That's still nothing.
$100,000 is a million a month.
He reacted like you disagreed with him.
He goes, $100,000 is a million a month.
That's a great point.
$100,000 is a million a month.
And that's such a fucking drop in a bucket.
It's like, okay, that's cool.
It's $12 a million a month.
Yeah.
It's going to take Elon probably like 5,000.
And that's assuming there's 100,000 accounts out there that are like, no, we need news.
Yeah.
We're news.
So you need to get a significant portion of the user base.
This is what I'm saying.
$44 billion is such an astronomical sum.
I think he's kicking himself right now.
I think you'd be like, what the fuck?
The value of the platform is not the subscriptions.
It's the information, the data.
It's like, hey, show our product to a lot of people.
That is true.
And that I don't factor in.
But that's how it works.
That's where the valuation comes in.
It's from like Coca-Cola and McDonald's being like, yeah, we'll pay to show this in front of people.
And it's like, once you take that away.
But Twitter ads don't work.
I never clicked on something because it's not.
Yo, Instagram ads be getting me and Twitter ads.
I'm just like, what is this?
Every time it sucks.
It gets in there.
It gets deep in your brain and you need insurance.
You're like, oh, yeah, Geyko's pretty good.
It's just like slowly eroding your brain.
Maybe.
That's all ads.
Yeah, that's also true.
But yeah, so I think it's, yeah, profitability for him, but that is tough.
Being able to control the news is huge.
I don't know how you don't get corrupted with that, though.
He's corrupted.
But like, imagine you own Twitter.
You spend a fuck ton of money to do it.
And then all of a sudden there's like a conspiracy going around on Twitter about some shit about you that's like hurtful that you genuinely don't like.
Something that like attacks your character.
How do you not just like turn the dial on a little bit unless people see this?
And there's no way to prove he does it.
Like until someone else buys Twitter and then does what the Twitter files he did to him, no one will ever know.
Now here's the question.
No, I'm not selling it to that guy.
Is he going to do it for the other investors in Twitter?
You know, when the Saudis own 40% of it or whatever the fuck it is.
How do you not let it corrupt you?
Like everyone's like, oh, just do the right thing.
But it's like, bro, like you haven't been there on the internet when the whole of Twitter is talking about like, oh, your family is this.
Especially if you went halvesies on it.
Especially if it's true.
Especially if it's true.
If it's not true, then it's just hurtful.
But if it is true, you're like, fuck, I got to do something about it.
I don't know how you don't let it warp your brain and it go, yeah, it's just turned out.
I would.
I wouldn't even need to have my brain warped.
Did it ever happen with?
I would do it right now.
Didn't that happen with Reddit?
This happens.
Yeah, yeah.
We're like China, like Tencent, I think, is the company.
That bought 50%.
They own a large percentage.
I don't know if it's a majority, but they do own a large percentage.
And a lot of like Chinese, like anti-CCP posts and things like that will get censored.
So it'll be like the Tiananmen Square massacre.
And then it'll be up.
Free Hong Kong shit got taken down.
Yeah.
And it'll have like 50,000 upvotes and like millions of views.
And then it'll just get taken down because it violates a violence policy.
Or the poster got banned because their other content was violating whatever, whatever.
And then you basically create like a constitution that's so detailed and so nuanced that you can just get anyone.
100 buying revenge porn.
Yeah, anyone for anything that you want, if you can make a detail about it.
If a poster is in violation, all their posts can go down.
So you just find a post that they made, go through all of their post history, find a place where they violated something else, and take down this post.
Oh, shit.
So it's like, yeah, you could just merc someone's whole account if you want to.
No, that's lit, actually.
That makes me want to buy social media.
That's my point, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's fire.
You get like that is ultimate power.
If information is power, like that is the ultimate power.
Yeah.
Seductive for sure.
I don't know how you don't let it just like just rot your brain.
Son, all of us would have pristine reputations.
Everyone.
Like, it's insane that he lets anything sit up there.
But anyone that thinks like, no, I would do the right thing and I would let people speak their mind.
I'm like, no, no.
I think what they say is that's why you shouldn't have like billionaires or whatever.
People shouldn't get this powerful because it would corrupt all of you.
But if it can't be the noble billionaire and it can't be the government, it's like who the fuck's supposed to run it?
Yeah, that's true.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Sign it off.
I don't know what the answer is.
Well, if you do do it, you're not so noble.
I mean, you just hope it's some type of reluctant king that like wants peace for everyone, that's going to take care of everyone, always do the right thing.
Power corrupts, absolutely, dog.
I don't know if it's possible.
So you think that we're going to see a corrupt version of Elon?
I don't know.
I mean, who's to say he's not already somewhat corrupted once he becomes the like richest man in the world by like always doing the right thing by everyone?
Yeah.
I don't know if he's and I like Elon.
I think he's great, but I don't think who is he fucked over?
I don't know.
Again, I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying in general, people that accrue like enormous fortunes.
But his wealth is speculative, right?
It's not like Tesla makes that much money.
Yeah, I don't know.
So that's the other thing.
It's like we got to find out how much money Tesla actually makes and find out how much money they make without selling those electric vehicle credits or whatever the fuck it is.
Like how much actual dollars does Tesla make?
What is their net?
Not even their gross.
What are they netting without those EV credits?
Yeah.
Because I'd be curious.
Because yeah, he's the richest guy in the world based on like what we think of him, but not based on like what the companies are actually generating.
Now, maybe they believe that some of these companies are going to generate so much wealth so we're all invested.
Like maybe SpaceX, for example, we believe that we're going to go mine an asteroid and become the richest nation in the world again or whatever the fuck it is.
I understand why you would put money in there, but if it's all speculative, who's the richest, like, I got cash guy in the world.
Saudi.
Saudi, right?
It's got to be real family people.
I don't even think Vlad, right?
Like, it could be Putin, right?
Putin, we don't even know, right?
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Gold.
Oh, because he's one dude.
Where Saudi is like the whole family.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You want to lighten the mood?
Four kids got murdered in Idaho.
That's pretty good.
Guys, that's been another episode.
Let's just talk about that.
Lighten the mood.
We appreciate y'all so much.
We'll see you later.
Snuck in the house.
We got something fun for you later this week.
Yeah, we hope everything goes as planned, but we got something very, very fun for you guys later this week.
You know, we're going to keep it extra later this week.
You know, what?
What?
What?
You think I gave it away?
He's just the worst for surprises.
Okay, bleep it.
Bleep it.
Bleep it.
What?
Come on, bro.
King shit only.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, dude.
Yeah, king shit.
King shit only, you know?
Let him live, dog.
Come on, bro.
Let him.
I'm, yeah.
Listen.
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