Israel Adesanya and the host dissect Adesanya's loss to Strickland, attributing it to a perineal nerve injury that hampered mobility despite dominant wrestling. They contrast this with Alex Volkanovski's legendary cardio and Volkanovski's recent weight-cutting feats, while Adesanya reflects on fan loyalty during defeat. The conversation explores handling disappointment, noting that failure often reveals deeper support, and concludes that embracing the underdog role fuels future success against rivals like Makhachev or Acosta. [Automatically generated summary]
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Do The GSP00:14:35
Okay, so the question everybody wants to know, do you want the smoke again?
Yes.
He doesn't know me.
I'll fight you until I beat you.
Before I'll be 60, I'll come to your favela.
I'll knock on your fault.
My walking stick and be like, yo, you and me right now.
I don't give a f ⁇ .
Even if it's just one, cool.
How long?
I could beat him.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
And today's guest needs absolutely no introduction, but we're going to motherfucking give him one.
Okay.
It's the goddamn goat.
Let's go.
Okay.
The goddamn goat is in the motherfucking building.
It is Israel Adesonya.
Yeah.
What's up, brother?
Okay, man.
Okay, okay.
We're sipping on something lovely right now.
It's my first one already.
I know.
We got it with the baby.
Yes, babe.
Yes, boo.
You were talking crazy before you, you did.
I don't even know how you made drinking a drink sound so gay.
That was unbelievable.
I mean, you got to suck it down.
It's nice and cold or something.
No, it's like the first sip.
Like for me, Bourbon's my, it's the first thing I ever got drunk on when I was 18.
So like the first, because I haven't drunk maybe in three weeks or so.
I had a sip.
But then when it just, that first sip, just my brain knows it's on.
Yeah.
It's like when the dog, like, you know, what's his name?
Wasabi sees a dog park.
It's like, yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
Walk it.
Walk.
Exactly.
So once I have that first sip, my brain's like.
Fight week is over.
Yeah.
I'm only here for a few more days.
So I'm here for, you know, I'm not here for a long time.
You're here for a good time.
For a good time.
Well, cheers to that, man.
Thank you so much for coming through.
Obviously, we're all at the fight.
We're all at the fight courtesy of you.
So thank you so much.
Thanks for being here.
That was super legit.
Yeah, it was amazing.
That was super legit.
I appreciate it.
You know, yeah.
You know, you could have just said, yo, you want to come to the fight, Schultz?
You want to come to the fight?
But don't hold fucking gang roll.
I know he had to be.
He was busy.
I know.
I know he was busy.
We'll use up that ticket.
No problem.
Wasabi.
Dove was in our section, but then spent the whole time just walking around the ring.
Dumbed it in two hours.
You walked around the cage.
No ticket, no risk.
Nothing.
Jewish.
There we go.
J-J-Y.
J-J-Y.
Yeah, yeah.
Stay quiet.
Stay quiet.
Let's do it.
But yeah, man, it was amazing.
Dove at one point just was walking around the ring and then he waved me in.
He goes, I'm like sitting in my seat.
I'm trying to be polite.
I'm like, he goes, let's come here for a second.
I go, what?
He goes, oh, yeah, we're going to say hi to Dana.
I'm like, oh, okay.
I guess we can see it.
And he just starts walking me around saying hi to people.
Jared Leto was there.
Did you see these people?
I saw on the screen.
Jared was there.
I saw Jake Gyllenhaal.
Jake Gyllenhaul.
I saw the Peter.
The Port Boy was there.
Lupita was there.
Shout out Lou Peter.
Stop.
Respectfully.
Respectfully.
Stop.
No.
I got to watch the movie, man.
I've only heard great things.
You guys seen it?
Huh?
Anyone seen it?
I said it.
You seen it?
Great.
I saw it.
Fuck.
I want to see it, man.
I really want to see it.
So, yeah.
Can't wait.
You were supposed to be in that.
What?
You were supposed to be in that.
Don't do that.
You were supposed to be in there.
Yeah, I was, but you were supposed to be in love interest.
Huh?
You were supposed to be the love interest with Peter.
What?
Oh, damn.
Is that true?
I don't know about that, but hey, Kamaro canceled his visa.
I hate him.
I hate that for me.
I want to see him in it as well because I heard he did really well.
But imagine, like, because I know even Creed 3, I kind of dropped that on the press conference.
Like, yeah, I was meant to be in that with Michael B and Homeboy, but that would be cool.
But I just, you know, again, this is what I'm doing right now.
Yeah.
This is what I'm focused on fighting.
I'm getting better as well, as you can see.
I'm honestly getting better.
So, excuse me.
I really want to, I don't want to sidetrack.
That's afterwards.
Yeah.
Panther 3 should be me, Kamaru, and Francis.
Imagine that shit.
Imagine.
There's a picture that they came to say what's up in the locker room and then we just like, and we all happen to be black.
Yeah.
And we're all dressed cultured by Ujra.
Oh, man.
It was fucking beautiful, man.
Yeah.
How long is after?
You said I asked for after.
This is right now.
How long is right now?
I'm having fun.
Honestly, like.
Oh, you're in this for a long time.
So this camp, I wrestled a lot.
Yeah, we saw.
Yeah.
So what I was telling Ariel, I was like, I know something you just don't.
I know how to wrestle.
People don't know.
I really know how to wrestle.
I couldn't use it as much as I wanted to because A, he's done what I do against the fence.
Good take down defense.
You pick him up, he just sticks his toes on the floor.
You'd be amazed how powerful your toes can just be just being on the floor.
You can't get taken down.
And also my leg was compromised by him.
Can you explain that?
First of all, two things.
One, I thought you were very, I thought it was very well-handled, you giving him credit for compromising a leg.
A lot of people in the post-conference will go and they'll say, oh, my leg was fucked up and that's why it happened.
He fucked it up.
I fucked his leg up too.
He just did it.
I think he did it worse short term because I'm walking.
You saw me crit walking and shit.
I bet you his is probably still sore right now.
But mine, he hit the perineal nerve.
What is that?
So I've seen it happen early on in years ago with Michael Chandler and Croot, also that guy, you know, Jimmy Crut.
Yeah, that's right.
It happened to him.
That's right.
It did.
I remember with Hill.
That's right.
It did happen with him.
His shit was.
Yeah, I remember.
So yeah, and also Cejudo as well.
It happened to him.
But I remember when it happened to me, it might have been the second kick he landed and my leg just went.
It was fine.
I just felt the nerve like shoot up.
And I was like, okay, that's weird.
But then throughout the fight, it started to like, you know, when you're walking and you just like, you have heavy feet and you just drag and it just drags on the floor.
It felt like that every like maybe 10, 15 seconds, I'll be moving and just like my toes just catch the ground.
You know what I mean?
So I kept on tripping.
I'm just like, oh, fuck.
Okay, this is annoying.
But I stayed focused.
I stayed focused the whole time.
So this happened the first round you hit it?
Yeah.
It happened.
Yeah, I was fine.
I was moving around.
But then the longer the fight went and the more leg kicks he landed, the worse it got.
It did seem like maybe you were shuffling your feet and switching up stances a little bit less.
Is that why?
Probably, yeah.
I might have just been imagining that.
No, no, no.
I normally switch way more.
I wouldn't be switching me.
I wanted to say Southport a little bit more because my body kick was landing.
My straight left was landing.
What else?
My jab was landing as well from Orthodox.
Everything was fucking landing.
Yeah, everyone.
The first one.
Oh, briar.
Everything was landing.
Later, I will say this.
You ate a head kick.
Yeah, I ate one.
That shit.
Oh, it didn't land.
I thought it landed online.
There's one, I saw a picture of this.
But then there was one where I think I had my hand up and it hit me.
But you went like this afterwards.
You went, that's this one.
What did I do?
Bro, you eat it.
No, no, no.
You're the flex.
You went.
Go ahead.
That shit was so far.
But that's, obviously, everybody's seeing this guy and he's, you know, doing damage.
And you see a kick like that and then you eat that one.
Yeah.
And were you, were you, I know it's weird to even have this conversation.
Were you surprised about power?
Nah, I like, so I made the agreement with myself before this fight.
Like, yo, this is going to be bloody.
That's why I had that whole saw theme throughout camp.
I haven't even watched the movie in the Sword One in years, but I've just, I don't know, what did I, something happened?
Maybe Chainsaw Man, the anime.
Who put me onto that?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
So Chainsaw Man, I watched that.
But as I, funny enough, as I watched that, I already had the saw theme like played out through the camp.
And then I was just like, this is, I made the agreement.
This is going to be one of those fights.
I gaslam.
I'm going in there to go five rounds and get bloody, get dusty.
I knew we're both going to bleed.
I knew I was going to drag him to deep water.
And I wanted to make sure he couldn't swim.
But again, this guy is a comeback kid.
Yeah.
Same way last time.
That's the thing.
It's like same way as last time.
I had him in the first or had him dealing on.
People didn't watch that whole fight, the kickboxing fight they were referencing.
Even the reporters, after my last last fight, I had to tell them, like, look, watch the fight your homework.
Yeah, yeah.
And I asked him, it's like, how many of you guys watched the fight?
I think like five people put their hand up.
I'm like, exactly.
And here you all talking all this shit and you ain't even watched the fight yet.
You're supposed to be journalists.
They could have stopped that fight.
Oh, no, the referee saved him.
That's what I'm saying.
The referee saved him, definitely, and gave him like a fucking 15-count.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because he's a Brazil.
Oh, yeah, a little homecourt advantage.
You know what I mean?
Okay, fair enough.
So you're in there.
You're feeling it.
You don't feel the power that crazy.
You're feeling super confident.
Even when he touched me.
You felt it.
It was not like I felt it, but it wasn't like I felt scarier.
He's knocked me out before, obviously, but I felt scarier.
Like, even in boxing, one of my boxing fights was the one where he hit me and it felt like a two by four hit me in the face.
I was like, oh, don't get hit by that again.
This fight wasn't like that.
I was willing to, I was not willing to take damage, but I was willing to be in the fire.
Yeah, you were willing to trade.
It looked like.
Yeah, like, because you were stepping in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then there was a moment.
I don't know, man.
There was a moment where when you started taking him down and you were, what is it, the third round?
Yeah, third round, took him down, don't you?
Went to wrestling.
And first, let me tell you something.
In the crowd in that moment, nobody expects you to dominate wrestling.
I'm just going to be honest with you.
That's not the expectation.
Myself included.
But when we see, and he continued to try to get up, you leaning on, bring him back down, using all these different legs.
Draining his enthusiasm.
Wow.
He drained the enthusiasm.
So, and also for me, people don't understand.
The kick where you lift out of him.
It's like sick.
Shout out to GSP.
I remember in that moment, I was just like, do the GSP.
And got right back in there.
I wish I had more time to work.
I wish I had more time to work.
But again, good defense.
He's durable.
He's tough.
But when I had him down, he couldn't get away from me.
Like the shackles.
I had the, they call it the Dagestani handcuff, inshallah.
You know, the one, but then I have my own way.
I get the cross grip and I beat him up and I could just transfer because, bro, he couldn't get away.
Feel this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Trying to get away.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
Just get away.
I'm in Dagger State.
Let it out of Dagestan.
Let it out of Dagestan.
No, but like, I've got these fucking daddy long legs.
Yes.
I hold people and they can't.
He couldn't get away.
Yeah.
But he couldn't do it while striking.
Yeah.
I'll just hold his control.
It's like controlling the hands, making sure I know where his hands is.
I was trying to step in with an elbow, but then sometimes he would flare his, which would make me hesitate.
But I missed a couple.
I got a couple, I'm pretty sure, but I missed a couple.
But just controlling the hands, just so you know where his hands is, because those are his main weapons.
He could still throw kicks and stuff, but then I knew how to check those.
If I control the hands, I can just worry about the bottom half, check them, step back, whatever I need to do.
Yeah.
You got it.
So then take us through fifth round.
Fifth round.
So fifth round.
Fourth, by the way, end of the fourth.
Yeah.
It looks like he's gassed.
He was.
And looked like he didn't want anything.
It's the same thing.
It's the same.
Last time when I fought him in kickboxing, it's the same thing.
I whooped his ass in the second round.
First round was in a draw, like he said.
I whooped his ass clean.
Second round, I whooped his ass even worse.
And third round, he just got gusto.
He just got gusto.
He recovered.
He's a comeback kid.
He recovers so well.
Got to give him credit.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, this time again.
And I heard the speech today that his corner gave him.
And it was a beautiful speech, you know, like his corner just gave him this fucking motivating speech.
But I was like, okay, you have to, you can't, you know, you have to be in this.
You have to focus.
And I was, but my leg wasn't focused.
And it's a great, it's a great game plan from them because what?
I have that footwork.
You can't, you can't touch me if I don't let you.
So what invest early?
And he did and hit the nerve perfect.
I don't think that was a plan.
Maybe that was a plan was just to deaden the leg or whatever, but he hit the legs early.
And then that way, my wheels weren't working.
So if my wheels aren't working, I'm a stationary target.
I'm easy to hit.
So in the fifth round, you feel the wheels aren't turning.
You feel him come out with way more aggression than the end of the fourth, where you're stalking him at the end of the fourth.
He's backing up.
I wanted to take him down the fifth, but then again, with this compromise, couldn't shoot.
Yeah, I was about to double-leg or single leg and drag him down or run the pipe, but it wasn't.
I felt like it didn't have the same.
Also, breaking news.
I was going to pull out of this fight early on.
No.
Last time I fought in New York, 230, I was going to pull out of that fight with three weeks left.
But then with Brunson, because my knee, this knee that time, but then I had cortisone injection.
I took a whole five days off, nothing.
No, no, nothing, five days off.
And then it just got better.
I came over to MSG and I dominated.
This time is from the last fight with Cannonier.
I hurt my PCL.
Yep.
And that's the thing that keeps your knee from going backwards.
And yeah, early in camp, it had some problems.
So there was a bit, how many weeks?
Maybe like, no, three weeks, I just did boxing.
Boxing and grappling.
No kicking.
So sparring, I would just put boxing gloves on and I'll spar my teammates.
I'll tell them no kicks just so they give this a chance to heal.
And it healed quite well.
I was taking eventually towards the end of camp or towards like halfway, I was taking leg kicks from Carlos, checking them.
He's the hardest kicker in the gym.
But yeah, so I was going to pull out early on, but I was like, nah, I want to get this done because I'm a prideful man.
I'm a prideful man.
I'll be damned if people say I'm a fucking, I'm scared of this guy because I know I'm not.
And I knew I wanted to fight.
I knew I wanted to fight, also make a point to fight three times this year as a champion.
I wanted to make a point because every time you fight, bro, it's like you put the shit on the line.
And I'm not going to be this guy who just parades because, you know, when you get the belt, you fight once a year.
Then you have fucking how many months of just, you know, I'm the champion.
And then you can just have that long reign as a champion.
Oh, then he's been champion for this long.
Nah, I want to fucking, I'm young right now.
Yeah.
I'm healthy.
You want to eat.
I want to eat.
I'm fresh.
I want to make money.
You know, so yeah, I put it on the line and I wanted to make sure to fight three times a year.
So I'm glad I did.
I'm glad I did the MSG.
And I'm glad I did it with my teammates as well and brought the whole squad with me.
Like it's the whole thing is a beautiful, beautiful story for us.
And they did well too.
Yeah.
I know.
It was great.
Even Brad.
Brad was honestly on, bro.
Brad was fucking on backstage, but he had his own things to deal with.
But Carlos, beautiful.
He set the tone, bro.
Black Jack.
Dan, he's a psychopath.
He's a psycho.
You know, his whole shit's fucked up.
Did you explain what he's talking about?
There's a moment.
The guy he's fighting is coming.
He's from Peru.
He's a Peruvian prince or something.
Ankle Lock Specialist00:09:01
He's a leg lock specialist, right?
He's had like three knee bars in the UFC.
So he goes at Dan right straight.
That's why he starts doing the butt scoot and all that jiu-jitsu shit.
The button butt touch.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
That's how Andrew got it.
Double guard.
Double guard.
Double poke.
He was trying to bump up Dan.
He got him in the first round, I think.
That's what Uncle Joe does when he says highlights.
He almost fucked me up.
He grabbed my head.
That was really funny.
And they just held me there.
Let me out of Jacket.
He's a strong Italian man.
But yeah, he, so the guy holds his leg, gets his leg.
I think he had him in the ankle lock.
Something different.
Ankle lock with a completely straight.
No, no, he had an ankle lock at one point, and then he had a knee bar.
And then Dan's sitting there, and you see Homeboy like pulling it.
Cranking.
Cranking.
I thought it was done.
Yeah, you see him do this.
You see him do this.
Bro.
Like, and Dan, I saw Dan just killing Dan.
During this part of the fight, me and Mark looked to each other.
It's like, yo, Dan's not reacting.
Is he actually doing anything?
No, it was.
No, so Dan, and even David told me after the fight, because Dan did an interview with Freestyle Bender.
And when I was watching the fight, I was like, this reminds me of Dan's debut because Dan fought this guy who's a leg lock specialist.
Same thing.
Ankle locks everyone in the UFC.
And Dan fought him.
The guy took his legs.
And Dan's bendy.
He's bendy as fuck.
He's so flexible.
And he was able to beat the guy and fuck him up from that position and then eventually finished him.
But David said in that interview, Dan said to himself at his UFC debut in Auckland, if this guy gets to my legs and he cranks, Dan made an agreement with himself to just let it go.
Like, okay, he's going to break my legs.
Cool.
No, he's a psych.
I've been saying this for so long.
People think I'm joking.
I know Dan.
When you train with someone for so many years and you hang out with them, you know them on a different level.
He's a psychopath, like the New Zealand psychopath.
So yeah, his shit's fucked up.
I don't know what it is, but his knee, his ankle, ACL, all that.
He's walking around today.
He's fine.
And he was on one this morning.
I won't even get into that.
Wait, man.
No, no, no.
I can't.
He's just hype.
He's yesterday.
He's super hyped.
This morning.
He's hype.
Yeah.
New York's way back to New Zealand now.
Get him back.
See him on top of the Empire fucking state building.
But yeah, so his old shit's fucked up.
He didn't tap.
He just sat there just like, cool.
My shit's fucked.
And whatever.
Absolutely.
And he's just cold, bro.
Yeah.
And then gets up, stabs the guy.
But the guy, I mean, he's like smoke, bro.
And Dan stabs you.
Even in training, you're supposed to do a light to your sparring partners.
I see y'all go at it.
I see y'all go at it.
Man, Dan have some pay-per-view fights, bro.
Yeah, Jeff's got all the video.
Jeff?
Was that lit up?
He got a kick to the liver?
Yeah, yeah.
So either to the sternum or to the liver.
The liver's right here.
So he'll make us tour like a spear.
Just pull it up and then jam it right through.
You'd be surprised.
You ever been liver shot before?
Boxing?
Only time I got it.
But you feel the pain.
It's like it's an involuntary.
It's the only time I got sat down where I sat myself.
Like, I'd been hit hard, just kind of sparring, and then I'd be like, oh, chill, But with the liver, I got hit and I was like, all right, we good.
I took two steps and then I just go hold the fuck off.
It's like that kill build shit, like take five steps.
And then you, yeah, it's an involuntary body response.
Your whole body just shuts down and it's just like protect everything.
So your body just like, I've been, I've had it before, so I know what the feeling is like.
So yeah, Dan stabbed him, stabbed him, and then he got back up.
And I was like, come on, ref.
If he goes down again, I'm glad the ref called a fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you could see that he didn't want to after that.
But it was cool to see Dan get that dough.
Yeah, same.
And then the post-fight on the mic.
It was fire.
Yeah.
So this is good, man.
So good.
I know you guys are big on team and everything like that.
So, okay.
So the question everybody wants to know, do you want to smoke again?
Yes.
Of course.
That's the question.
So I saw during the lead up to the fight.
He goes, I bet you he speaks like Frankenstein, by the way.
Nah, his head looks like the Easter Island.
They call him Hands of Stone, but he got a head of stone.
I tell you that.
I break bricks, man.
I'm telling you, I can break bricks.
But yeah, he said, like, oh, I don't think he's going to want to meet a rematch.
I'm like, fuck, he doesn't know me.
Yeah.
I will fight you until I beat you.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck.
I'll be 60.
I'll come to your favela.
I'll knock on your fucking table with my walking stick and be like, yo, you and me right now.
Like, we need to go.
Because this is just me.
I don't give a fuck.
Even if it's just one, cool.
I beat you.
How long I could beat him?
How long do you want to give it to let your body heal?
I'm worried for you.
This guy looks like Sagat from Street Fighter.
I'll fuck him up.
I don't.
Okay, so I got to get this fixed.
I get something else fixed.
I don't know.
What else you gotta get fixed?
I keep these things away from the media because they like to be run with it.
So I don't want to, it's not because of you guys.
Yeah, I'm just curious, how much time are you thinking?
I definitely want to watch Perth as a fan.
And then Volks fight.
Volks fight.
So Volks fighting Islam Makashev for the lightweight belt.
That's amazing.
Well, honestly, people on the rest of May Volk.
I'm telling you, it's different.
I know you guys don't.
It's stupid.
Because, you know, again, people.
That guy drinks his own pee on purpose.
Yeah.
Blah, blah, blah.
There's nothing that can stop that, man.
Nah, but yeah, I want to watch that as a fan and just chill.
And then, yeah, we'll see what happens.
But this is the main thing I want to get fixed first.
Now, now, my question is the time is important because is he going to fight again before he fights you?
Or is it going to be an immediate rematch?
That should be me.
Hold up.
I didn't think about that.
I mean, even if.
And are you worried if he fights someone else?
And he loses.
I'm thinking about that right now.
Look, I'm going to still fight him.
I'll probably just fight him.
That's not the belt.
I'll beat him.
I'll fight him.
Yeah, literally, I was just going through that in my head.
I haven't actually thought about that.
But I think even if he, if maybe I had surgery, not that I would, maybe, or need it.
But if I did and he fought someone else in the interim and then lost the belt to that guy, I'll probably just come back and fight him.
Yeah, that's far.
Yeah.
Because I can beat him.
I know you can beat.
All right.
Why do you feel more confident?
Because I've been in there with him too many times now.
And I've also taken his best shots in different gloves.
I took him down.
I controlled him.
I know what to do now because I compromised his legs early, but then he compromised mine as well.
But he just did his.
It's like if I hit his perineal nerve, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
It'll be different.
He wouldn't go.
If, you know, in another parallel universe, all that kind of shit.
But yeah, he just did it better.
And I just know I can beat him.
I know I have his number, but again, he just somehow gets it done.
He's got more confidence knowing you took his hardest shot in four-ounce gloves and it didn't drop you.
Yeah.
There was something I was willing to stand close, closer.
I pushed.
I was right there, something in his face, hand fighting.
Yeah.
Because I was right there.
And I'm like, oh, I can see things.
I was fast.
Is that what you were most worried about before the fight is his hands?
I was worried.
Yeah, it was.
It was.
He's got good shots.
He's good.
Good right hand, good jab.
Stuck me with it a couple of times.
Knee as well.
There was one knee I remember like it got really close.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
I was really close.
I can't remember if I, I don't think I shot or something.
Maybe I went for a buddy jab.
I think I went for a buddy jab and he shot the left knee up.
And I was like, okay, that's close.
Was that after you somersaulted?
Before, before, before.
That was just automatic breakdance instinct.
That was so fucking cool.
I know.
Your foot left you or whatever, but then she looked cool.
Nah, because I thank you.
But for me, when it happened, what are you going to do?
Lie on the ground?
Yeah.
Because then I'm just a sitting duck.
So as I fell down, it's just, this is what freestyle comes into play.
So as a dancer, freestyling is a skill.
And you can really train yourself how to freestyle, how to actually let your body just roll with the flow.
So as I fell down, I could have done the old butt scoot, butt scoot, like every other anime fighter.
But then as I was falling down, I was like, oh, break dance.
Boom.
I backwards rolled.
And I got up and I was like, okay, here comes a flying.
As I was upside down, I knew there's a flying knee or something coming, but he didn't throw it, but he stalked me and I was able to still get out of dodge.
I still haven't watched the fight.
I will watch it.
You just watch highlights?
I saw things on Instagram and whatnot.
And I'm happy with the way it looked, the way it went.
But yeah, I just wish I got the win.
You were very close.
It was five seconds in the first round, three seconds in the first round.
House of Highlights00:02:47
I'm telling you, I will fuck this guy up.
But again, he's got bragging rights.
He's beating me.
Yeah.
You know, so he can have all that.
Is it weird?
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Now your fights are House of Highlights, Breacher Report.
Is it, how does it feel?
Is it like fucking infuriating when you're seeing the fight highlights of a fight you lost right after?
Not really.
No, not this one, no.
But for me, fucking these the ESPN did me dirty.
Bro, these shows fucked up.
I was like, okay, so I was talking to DC after the Wayans, and then I was talking about the first fight, and then they pull up highlights of the first fight.
I'm like, okay, watch this bit.
And they pretty much just show like...
I think 20 seconds of just his shots.
And I'm just like, you ain't slick.
Fuck you, Mickey.
The eight times that he got tagged in that fight, he was talking about like, yo, I struck him all these times.
And then they showed the only eight times that he got hit.
Because I was trying to talk about how I was skinny back then, and I got all these angles on them, and I was cracking them.
But now if I get those angles on them, it's different.
And I was like, okay, watch these highlights.
And it was just like, they say you are.
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Do you think that he was concerned about your power?
Or surprised by it?
Surprised, yes.
Times Square Lights00:06:00
Because yeah, I saw his eyes when I hit him.
It's like he got hit in the, if I believe they call it GB20.
It's like right here behind.
Under the air?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You started bleeding.
Yeah, it started bleeding.
But his ears cry blood.
And he comes back up, and I went for uppercut, and I pulled it back.
Oh, shit, boom.
I kind of wish I threw the uppercut.
I wish you threw more.
I was waiting.
I was really hungry.
I wish I threw the hook.
But the uppercut is dangerous against a guy like him who likes to throw that hook.
Yeah, but he was hurt.
So when I, it was a good fake and then hook, but then referee Mark just jumped right in.
Yeah.
And I was like, fuck.
And you see his light.
He's like, oh, shit.
Even when he got up for the second round, he was still kind of wobbled.
He was a little bit.
But he's just, again, comeback kid.
He's that fucking, I don't know what to have in the fucking jungle.
Would you wrestle more next fight, you think?
I will take less leg kicks and definitely wrestle more.
They know I could wrestle.
I can wrestle.
Trust me.
All these, they're fucked.
It's so easy.
It's not easy.
Wrestling's hard.
Training for wrestling is hard.
Yeah.
The wrestling cardio is different too.
I've noticed that with fighters.
Exactly.
There'll be guys that the strikers on the feet can fight 20 rounds.
It doesn't matter.
They get caught in a grappling situation.
Because your muscles are contracted for five minutes.
Yeah.
You're just like in different positions, squeezing hard.
And the galactic acid just builds up and eventually your arms get tired.
Did you think you were going to choke them out at one point?
When I was on the ground, yeah.
I was trying to find the next one.
I saw you trying to put him on the bottom.
I put the hook him up and then he got the leg out.
And I was like, okay, cool.
And I was listening to my corner.
It was hard to hear my corner a little bit in this.
I don't know if it was MSG.
I don't know.
I was trying to listen from my corner, but I couldn't hear.
Son, it was MSG.
You guys brought more energy to MSG than Nick's dude.
That shit wasn't.
You actually calmed it down at one point.
The start of the second round.
I was like, yeah, chill, chill, chill.
They're getting too excited.
I'm like, chill.
Because you almost finished him at the end of the first.
Let me work.
Let me work.
Please let me work.
I was trying to work.
But yeah, when I was trying to get the hooks in, I was looking for the finish a little bit.
So I was trying to find the neck, but I didn't want to rush anything.
Yeah.
Because I know if I've made that mistake in training, many times when you rush something and then you end up in a bad position.
So I was like, okay, be systematic, be diligent, and be smart.
So again, I just drained his enthusiasm, drag him down, whoop him, whoop him.
He tries to get up, drag him down, whoop him.
And I did that.
I controlled him for like fucking almost the whole round.
The whole round, basically.
Yeah.
Okay.
Life.
We all have things that disappoint us.
Yeah.
You seem to handle disappointment well.
I've had bigger disappointments in my life.
How do you handle much, much bigger disappointments?
Like, bro.
Especially at this level.
I've had people die who I really care about.
And again, life goes on.
I reflect over it.
It comes in waves.
It comes in waves.
But then life moves on.
Time always just keeps ticking.
It don't stop for nobody.
So just what do you?
I think people expect me to handle it the way they would.
So they think I'd be like in the shadows right now, like sad.
And I'm like, yeah, and everyone else who care about me do.
You know, I saw a few people like message me that or comment that.
I'm like, it's fine.
This is life.
Like, look, even if he had like destroyed me five rounds and then killed me at the end or flatlined me, I still have down spirits, of course.
I'm human, but it sucks to lose, don't get me wrong.
I love winning.
I love winning.
But I'm still grateful.
Like, people don't understand.
I'm so grateful for everything that if you watch the last episode of Freestyle Ben and the episode three of the fight week, we brought Tojo in this fight week, who was one of the OGs from New Zealand when it comes to fighting, like martial arts.
So he and Lolo were part of the, they formed Balmoraliga, who trained Eugene, Doug Viney, Ray Cepho.
I think Mark Hunt went to spy them a few times.
So he was around the era.
So those guys.
So Tojo was at the house with us.
Oh, he was at the hotel, but he came to the house for the dinner.
And man, roll the clip.
You have permission to roll the clip at this part.
I want to introduce Master Tojo.
He's part of the reason that we are able to be here today.
When we first started in Balmoral, we wanted an Auckland title.
It's ended up here.
Besides being able to go to shake hands with the ghosts of Madison Square, all the champions that have gone prior to these ones.
Thank you.
There's a beautiful speech Eugene gave, and then Tojo gave a speech.
And you see Mike in the background, Mike Ango, my boy.
He's a cancer as well.
I'm half cancer, half Leo.
So he's like, and I'm there, like you feel it, though.
Oh, bro.
The whole time I expressed it.
So it was just the whole moment, man.
And even there's something I posted the other day.
There's a picture.
Sorry, hold up two seconds.
With Dan.
This is 2016.
Dan's had five fights in the UFC albums on live.
Yeah.
You can pass it to Kosh.
Oh, wow.
That's 2016.
Keep scrolling if you want to see some cool stuff about it.
Wait, is that Ash?
He's going to be upset if you sort into the last one.
Oh, that's Kai and Ash?
Yeah, no, no, no, Ash on the back.
Volk, yeah.
Oh, my God.
So that's even that.
Volk was about to make his debut then.
Dan's already had five fights in the UFC.
I was two years away from making my debut, and Kai was about to be on the ultimate fighter, I believe.
I'll show these guys as well.
So, see, see, like, and this is a small group of fighters from New Zealand and Australia, um, or the Anzacs who haven't really had any kind of backing from the government like other sports.
And look where we are.
Yeah, like, I didn't really get to go, I can't go Times Square anymore.
Yeah, but um, my face was all over Times Square.
My name, I disonya, all up in lights in Times Square, all up in lights in Madison Square Garden.
Love People Trolls00:03:06
Yeah, and it's just like, fuck, I'm grateful.
Like, what a life.
That's why I say that's one of my things I always say, what a life.
There's a there's a thing that happens, I think, sometimes when you approach disappointment, is you feel love from people that don't always show it, you know.
And uh, when you're winning, there's tons of love, but it might not necessarily be the love from someone who like truly cares.
And sometimes, through disappointment, you find out how much you actually care about someone.
Like, I told you earlier, like, Duval texts me this morning, nine o'clock.
He goes, Man, he goes, Why am I really sad?
That Izzy lost.
I feel that, man.
That really touches me.
But when you're dominant, right?
When you're so dominant, like you are, you don't give us an opportunity to feel what it's like when it doesn't go your way, right?
And now, all of a sudden, you have it.
So, there's like this.
I wonder if there's this weird silver lining to a moment like this, though it's incredibly disappointing.
You also get to see how much people care about it.
I'll be honest, like, you watch when Bruce Buffer is announcing me.
My lips go, Fuck him.
Yeah, because he got booze and I got cheered, but I was just like, I don't give a fuck.
Fuck him.
So, he might read my lips.
Yeah.
Because I was just like, nah, it's not about that.
I'm focused on this guy right now.
Afterwards, I can bask in all that.
And I'm getting so much love.
People are like, oh, he won the fans back.
I'm like, my real fans never left.
Yeah.
My real fans never left.
No matter what I did, whether they thought a way about it or whatever, they fuck with me.
They fuck with me.
So this is Avengers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he does a good job with that.
You see the whole war.
You see the whole story.
This is a battle.
The next fight is Endgame.
I said, but honestly, like, what did I say?
I said, this is, I think it's maybe because I watched a lot of TV as a kid.
Well, I have a theory on this.
I think it's anime.
Of course, yeah.
I think that the anime, The Hero's Journey that you watch, I'm like obsessed with story now.
I'm an antagonist.
Yes.
In my own story.
Even when he came to the Wayne's and he wore that fucking turkey helmet and the face face, I was just like, oh, he makes the perfect villain.
Perfect fucking Red Skull.
What's her name?
She said, my woman says she's like, he looks like the thing of Crash Bandicoot.
It helps he doesn't speak English that well either.
Because even if he's trying to win me over, I'm like, I don't work on you.
And I was looking at y'all like it was Rocky 4.
I was like, God damn, it's a big motherfucker, man.
Oh, you wait till I drop the next one for my episodes.
Because I love trolling with these people.
Why, what?
What?
Because, like, I think even I haven't watched all the embeddeds yet, but when the embedded cameras are around, I was just like, I'll tell him when to film.
And I'll be on the pads, like for the last one before the wake cut.
And then on the Wayans, you see me on the scale.
I get up there and I'm just like, oh, so you were faking it.
Fugazi.
I lost the ghost too.
Rocky 4 Vibes00:04:16
Yeah.
So it was fun for me just like reading all these comments and then like seeing all these experts.
DC almost fucking rolled my shtick.
What are you like?
He's like, what are you messing around up there?
And I kind of just danced around it a little bit.
But yeah, for me, it's just fun to like fuck with people because they think this shit is real, but like you can, I don't know, I'm a troll sometimes.
Yeah, it was fun, but I'll put that out eventually.
Is it I think you've always viewed yourself as an underdog as long as I've known you.
Yep, right?
I am.
I was surprised I had to add me as a favorite in this fight.
I wasn't, but I was.
I was like, come on.
Did you prefer being an underdog?
Yes.
Well, I guess what I'm interested in is like, now you're back to your comfort zone.
Exactly.
Being the underdog.
Yeah.
I like when my back's on the wall.
I like when people doubt me.
I like when I got the chips in a dip.
You know what I mean?
Because I've always thrived in that position.
Even for this fight, I like with people, all the experts, you want some more?
Yeah.
Easy.
I like when they are.
More?
That was easy.
Let me see that.
You want some more?
I got you, brother.
But yeah, I like when all the experts are like, oh, you know, he's already knocked them out before.
Can he do it again?
Will he do it again?
Let me see that.
Where's the drip tips?
So this fight, I didn't have time.
Come on.
I didn't have time.
I promise you.
Hold on, bro.
Check notes.
Cheers, no.
I was trying to get a dog.
I'm glad you called them drip tips too.
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So now, now, now that you're here, yo, how do you guys feel about this?
Wild gay.
That's what I think.
How did I talk about it?
You think it's heterosexual?
I've been trying to fuck this guy since I'm going to be able to do that.
I'm going to try to add you to the background.
You don't cut me off.
I need you there.
You talk about how I'm going to dress, drink.
I'm borrowing a son, bro.
I'm a pivot.
Channing, when I pulled up, that's where the pearls were at.
I was like, but he kind of pushed back a little bit.
I was like, yeah, like, what?
Diamonds are a girl's best friend.
But I see all these rappers rocking diamonds.
Who says they're for girls?
But they look good on black skin.
Thank you.
I dress how I seen this meme ages ago.
I still have it on my Instagram.
It's Jackie Chan wearing like a crop top.
And it says, nobody can tell you how to dress when you can whoop everybody's ass.
I'm like, whoa, I mean, what are you going to say about me?
My masculinity?
Yeah.
Question my mind.
You're the style bender, bro.
Exactly.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, bender is like the, what's the slang for gay?
Yeah.
Benderous?
Yeah.
Are you the bender?
On In-Betweeners.
Oh, you bet, man.
Are you fucking big?
Yeah.
What?
I'm like, okay.
And even people call me that sometimes.
And they think it's going to get to me, but I'm like, bro, if you know what I've taken down in my past.
Okay.
Okay.
Speak on it.
No, no, no.
Hey, man.
I'll be.
We actually know.
That's how big they were.
There was a time.
I lived in a small town at one time.
Hey, Tolu.
Tolu.
Tolu.
Oh, my God.
Is that how New Zealand chicks take the facials?
Do they just go, ah!
I'm deceased.
I'm deceased.
I'm God.
I'm God.
That's a kill off.
That's a kill off.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
New Zealand chicks don't.
They're not about it.
They're not about that life, man.
Imagine you're about to let her rip.
That's a me.
That's a me.
Oh, my God.
That's a fucking meat, bro.
Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Schultz.
Hey, we all got it.
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Okay, talk to us about Donald.
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We're tread setting out here.
New Zealand Chicks00:02:52
Talk to us about Volk and Islam, man.
Give us some insight on that.
Okay, so Valk used to be a fat guy.
Yeah.
Like big boy, brawly, played rugby.
And thing is, when you walk around with that kind of body mass for years, you develop a different kind of muscle density.
Exactly.
But even with Valk, I've tried to hold him down.
I'm not the greatest wrestler.
Even with my frame and my leverage, it's hard to hold him down.
He finds a way back up.
Really?
Yeah.
And he even finds a way to get inside on me sometimes, even striking.
A lot of times.
He's crafty.
Crafty.
Veteran.
His inside leg kick, his jabs, his hand control, all that shit.
He's crafty.
And Islam is great.
Trust me.
These daggy boys, they know what they're doing.
They have their own pedigree.
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But again, I'm biased.
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Hey, you.
Not like me, though.
Fast forward.
But yeah, Valk is just different, bro.
Volk is just the kind of guy that even when he cuts weight, the amount of weight he cuts, for him to have the cardio he has in the later rounds, Jordi will tell you, the fight dietitian would tell you, it's mind-blowing.
Yeah.
Like different.
And the man's different.
He's just, I get so much.
Every time I do, so a spider circuit, right?
What's that?
It's the last, like, it's a Sunday workout.
We do it on the day we fight and we try and time it with the, with the either American time or wherever we're fighting the time.
So it's the worst fight of your life.
There's a clip of him.
It might have been on my channel years ago where he like just dumping everyone in the last round.
And then the timer went off.
He kept on dumping people.
And they were like, time, time, time.
Every time I do my last round, I always, whenever it's time to go, like, you know, just walk in there, walk in.
People just walk in.
You're like, yep, boom, double leg.
Yup, yep, yep, boom, double leg.
I try and emulate him.
He's so inspiring to me in so many different ways.
And just seeing the way he's just blossomed as a champion, as a person, and standing in his own light tan toes.
I'm like, yeah, fuck you.
Talk your shit.
Like after his last fight, he pretty much went, all of you, get your shit together if you want to show that the strap.
If not, you can all fuck off.
Yeah.
I'm going to go to lightweight.
So yeah, I like the fact that he's being himself right now, but he's different, man.
He's different.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's striking as well.
Like, striking is a...
That's something it was so impressive to me, man, because Max, first of all, I love Max.
And he's likewise.
I was even talking to Volk.
He's like, but, bro, I like him.
Emulate The Champion00:09:41
Yeah.
He's a cool guy.
He's a cool ass dude.
I'm sure if we go to Hawaii, we link up.
He likes anime.
He can probably teach me how to surf, whatever.
Yeah, that's a cool guy.
Yeah.
But he said it.
He was like, he's like, yeah, there's just something, something different, even with the striking, to see him make those adjustments, you know, and shout out to the camp, Eugene, and like, Uncle Joe, Uncle Joe.
Uncle Joe wasn't part of that, but he was a quiet.
He was looking on something.
Lady boys, Joe.
Come on, Joe.
You know who like surprises?
Fucked up, my Joe, bro.
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How much do you cut?
Because we were talking to Sterling.
He cuts a lot.
He's a big boy.
Oh, you see Sterling when he cuts and he's shredded.
He looks like a buddy builder.
It's crazy.
He said he dropped everywhere just like 30 or something shit like that.
So I'll do it in KG's.
Start a camp.
I was 97.8 or high 97s.
Let's get some.
That's 215 pounds.
215 pounds.
Okay.
Then when I'm in the swinger camp, I get down to like 94, 93.
206, 207.
Yep.
So, you know, light heavyweight.
And then, yeah.
So I'm glad I came to America two weeks early because when I got here, I had to chop the oxtail, jerk chicken.
You know it.
In and out.
Oh, no, in and out.
Sorry.
What's the name?
Wendy's.
Shake Shack.
Yes.
I went to Shake Shack as well at the mall in Jersey.
What else did I eat?
Ah, fuck.
A lot of things.
I went deep.
So that way, because my buddy's different.
I just know when I get here, my buddy just knows.
It's like, oh, flight week?
It just starts to drop.
So the first week we were here, I ate a little bit.
I immersed myself in the culture.
You got acclimates.
Exactly.
Went in Rome.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, then the last, maybe, I think from Sunday before fight week, and I told Jordy, all right, let's go.
So I put all that aside, you know, and I just went on Jordy's plan.
And Jordy feeds you, bro.
Like, I put a story up of what he was feeding me.
I'm like, am I allowed this?
Yeah.
Like, it's delicious.
It looks good.
It doesn't feel like I'm cutting weight.
So I just trust the science behind it.
Yeah.
It might not taste like the chicken might not taste the same because there's no salt because salt holds water and all that kind of shit.
But yeah, he just makes it delicious.
He makes it like beautiful.
It's salt's overrated.
See, I've been saying this for years.
I love salt.
Don't get me wrong.
He does that just to cut.
No, no, no.
Is it hard relinquishing control?
In other words, okay.
I'm easy.
How did you get there?
I think it's just growing up in Nigeria.
Wait, what do you mean?
You should know.
Indian parents.
I think I know Indian parents.
And it's not even just your parents.
It's everybody's your parents.
All your uncles and aunties.
Everybody.
Capital Punishment, all that kind of stuff.
So for me, that's why I'm glad I didn't go to Thailand when I was 25 or 25.
Joe would have fucked up.
I was so sweet.
Don't do another Jimmy Joe.
But no, because when I was young, I was dumb, full of cum.
Yeah.
And I know I would have done that.
We got to talk about that.
No, no, no.
We got to talk about weight loss tattoo.
Oh, yeah.
That's the biggest cap in history.
Fuck off.
That biggest cap in history.
Bro, okay, did you lose enough cum that you make weight?
Well, there was some sweat involved.
I was going to say.
It wasn't just me.
I had a partner, but I had a willing partner, but who was sparring with you that time?
Shout out to Joe.
How is that?
I knew it was coming.
I knew it was coming.
No, but yeah, I mean, for the story, though, like when she said it, that was the first thought that came to my head.
I thought that one time I was like, oh, no, I was like, okay, think of another story.
Because I didn't want to, you know, this climate these days, you talk about that.
Oh, my God.
I feel like, you know, you know how to light the internet on firefight.
This guy will be quiet.
But I thought about it.
I thought about it.
Seven days before the fight, every interview goes viral.
Someone said, I didn't look at that.
You just shot it.
Jesus.
Put that thing down.
That was mad.
It's not the real talk.
It was not the real talk.
I was very scary.
No, but yeah, that was some sweat involved.
But for the story, just when it came into my mind, I was like, she's like, go on, you have to say it.
I'm like, oh, and then for me as well, whenever I have a thought in my mind and I feel like, okay, I don't want to lose to myself, I'm like, it's not, I'm just saying the truth.
Just get it out.
And it's funny.
I was like, oh, she's a good sport.
She felt, she was cool.
Yeah, she was really cool.
So I was like, I just say that.
So it was.
She was feeling it, bro.
Yeah, it was funny.
She was throwing rhythm, bro.
Rhythm.
Come on.
Let's not do that.
You don't think you're trying to make me bless him, too.
She was like, oh, you crazy.
How much?
I try to digress.
I was like, what do you really want to know?
It's one way to find out.
What else sweat involved, boy?
You know, I just keep that out of the story.
Could you tell how many grams it was when it left you?
No, because so I had like, I think, how much did I have?
Seven if she does it, right?
Do you sometimes you're like, oh, there's only two grammar.
You know what I mean?
At the time, I was really young.
First of all, it was probably like 22, 23.
Oh, yeah.
And also, I was on that whole abstinence before a fight kit tip at the time before I knew it was like a myth.
Huge low.
And I just hit it.
So I know what it's like when I don't, like, right now, I haven't since last Sunday.
Oh, damn.
Fortnite.
I know this is going to be a little longer.
Oh, no, It's gonna be a little longer than that.
It's different now.
It's different.
Oh, trust me.
Welcome.
This is a marriage, my boy.
Hey.
What funny you are.
We'll see when I get home.
Nah, but like, you know what it's like.
You don't, if it fills up with that old baggage, then yeah, you get a lot of boop boop.
I think you got like the cottage cheese coming out, bro.
It should just be dribbling like oatmeal.
You gotta squeeze the back.
It was a cool story.
It was a funny story.
So I'm glad I told it, but I'm just like, fuck.
I'm glad I didn't get like backlash for it.
Because you didn't, you left out the partner.
You just said, yeah, I know, but it's a cool story if you just say it that way.
Yeah, because we thought you were jerking it out.
Wasn't it?
Why tell the truth when the lies more interesting?
It wasn't really a lie, but I just left out the partner.
Squeeze The Back00:15:36
Yeah.
But where is she now?
Drowned?
Yeah, she passed away.
Waterboarding.
She's treading right now.
She's treading.
She'll tell you anything you want.
She's on solo, bro.
She's motherfucking.
She's frozen in the ice.
She's quicksand.
She's Indiana Jones, just her hat's blowing.
So how long you got in the city, man?
So I was meant to stay till end of the week, but I think we're leaving on Wednesday.
Okay.
So I got hot ones tomorrow.
Okay.
Oh, he might.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, bro.
I see.
It's right there.
It was in his head.
It's like, so I might do Ariel as well.
And yeah, just tap in, eat, you know, might visit some establishments and help the cuts and more weight.
Yeah.
Oh, no.
I cut some more weight.
I think there's a, I don't know, man.
I think there's so much to learn from like the grace that you've handled this with.
Yeah.
And I think, bro, like I say, people aren't me.
Yes.
They're not me.
So they're looking at this from their lens.
Like, if I was in his position, they would even fucking be my position.
No, I don't think it's that.
I think it's people really care about you.
Yeah.
And I think that you offer some consistency in people's lives that don't have consistency.
Right.
So like you're somebody, it's almost like what Mayweather was or like what LeBron was in a lot of ways where you're where we just looked at them.
We're like, oh yeah, every year they get into the finals.
Or Mayweather's like, every time it's going to fight.
My life is inconsistent.
But I know when I watch Mayweather, I can count on that guy doing.
So I think that they go, oh my God, he's going to win.
Yeah.
Like, so I think that they're Drake as well.
I just saw the thing where he dropped $2 million.
That's light work for Drake, but still, $2 million is $2 million.
Let me ask you.
Let me tell you something.
That ain't his money.
I know.
Steak's money.
Yeah, but shout out to Stake as well.
They love that.
You know, they gave me like, I think $15,000?
Because some guy at the press conference was like, Are you a lock here?
We were doing something gambling.
And I was like, I only fuck with steak.
So they just dashed me like fucking 15 grand for that.
As they say, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All I'm trying to say is that people, I think they see the way that you're handling it.
And I think it helps them cope with it.
Yeah, you cheered me in a way.
Real talk.
You cheered me.
When I saw you talk about it, it made me go, oh shit, my boy's going to be all right.
Your dad gets hurt.
And he's like, no, we're okay.
You know what I mean?
You scared?
You're like, oh, shit, I'm scared.
Or like when a baby falls down.
Oh, you will do that.
That's exactly what's happening.
But if you don't give them that reaction, they're like, you letting people know it's all right.
That's fine.
And then they take that into their lives and they go, oh, shit, I'm going to have disappointing things happen.
And I can handle that shit with grace.
I've had worse things happen in my life.
Yeah.
Like, literally, worse things.
I think people, like I said, people, if they put themselves in my shoes, they think, how would I handle if I was Izzy?
Because even sometimes people were like, there was a fight when it might have been either the Romero fight or something where people were like, I got shit on so much.
And people are like, are you okay?
I'm like, I'm fine.
But every time I saw people, like, oh, are you?
You need to apologize to him because the emotional roller coaster you put him on every time you fight, son, it's because he cares.
This guy is like unbearable to be a ring.
Did you see him after?
Did you see him after the fight?
There's a video of Joe Rogan.
He's talking to Anak or something.
And then Theo's right here.
And then Schultz is right in the middle.
And he's just going, like, I'm sorry.
It looks like he lost 2 million.
I love it, dog.
The other comics were laughing and like just joking around.
I swear to God, I looked at them.
I was like, y'all need to get the fuck out of the room.
I'm not trying to.
I don't swing.
Nah, that shit is.
That's my baby.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's bad.
It's to the point now where, like, if I'm going on stage, I can't watch the fight before.
It'll fuck you up.
I put it on.
I did when you fought fucking Jan.
Yeah.
The fight finished literally 30 seconds before I went on stage.
And those Mormons got the worst show in Southwest history.
There was some animosity.
About the tablets.
But it is weird how we get so invested because I know not to the highest stakes that you go through, but I know what it's like to have a lot of pressure and have a lot of people believing in you and needing to come through in a moment.
Like no edits.
You can't edit a fight.
Right?
This is what you do.
You're on stage, completely different stakes.
I don't want to compare the two.
And I hate when comics go, ooh, it's just like boxing.
It's not like boxing.
The similarities, but I get what they mean.
I compare strippers movies.
Yeah, that's probably more like it.
You know what I mean?
Get beat the fuck up.
But so I understand the pressure that comes with it.
And I swear to God, I think I get more anxious and nervous for your fights than I do my own shows.
I know for a few minutes.
I get more anxious for my teammates' fights.
Yeah.
My fights.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought you'd be nervous to see me on stage.
I'd be fine.
Okay, I'll be nervous if you had a fight.
If you did like a charity, you should.
You should watch it.
What are you talking about?
Fucking you.
No shit about Kyrie.
Kyrie.
Who?
KD?
No, Kyrie.
Oh, I would beat the show.
Ah!
Yeah, that's easy.
That's easy.
No, that's easy.
That's easy.
KD, that would be more difficult, obviously, because he's seven feet tall.
I need to fight with the leg kicks.
Well, if you had a fight, if you had a fight, I'll definitely, if I was like, okay, it's just hoping the person's all right.
Yeah.
Like, I was talking about it when I watched Kamaru and Leon.
When Kamara was on his way to victory, I was like, okay, he's going to beat him up this round or whatever.
I take him down and then he'll be fine.
But then when he got knocked out, and that poli was right next to me, and I was like, no.
If I happened to Leon, same thing.
I would have been like, no, because one of them got hurt badly.
Is that weird when you're friends with both of the guys?
No, weird.
That's part of the game.
This is it.
Everybody gets that.
Because sometimes I even feel a little guilty.
Like, it's part of it.
It's part of it.
It's just part of the game.
So it's like, I don't, I don't, even if someone, like some Brazilian friends of mine or fighters who I respect and I'm cool with, if they picked Poitan to win, I wouldn't be like, oh, how dare you pick that guy.
Yeah, I get it.
You know, it is what it is.
Can I be honest with you, bro?
I'm really happy that you beat up Paul Acosta the way you did early.
Yeah.
Because that motherfucker's entertaining as hell.
I love him.
On Twitter, you follow his Twitter?
Bro, he's amazing on Twitter.
He's funny.
And I'm just glad we got that out of the way so that we can all come and we can enjoy.
I follow him on Twitter.
What did he say?
He said, there's a tweet.
He said, fuck, hold up.
Is Israel grappling Israel?
Law.
I retweeted it, but there's something else he said about, give me my white belt, brat.
That's him saying it.
Like, you can't, like, I could give you an anal virginity back.
With that white belt, you can't take that shit.
Oh, I thought that was a compliment.
You can't get on fucked.
I thought he was being playful when I hear that.
I thought he was saying, like, you're better than a white belt.
No, no, maybe.
I don't know.
But I like him.
If we have to fight again, I still whoop his ass.
No, I don't think he ever wants that smoke again, which is why I like.
But I'm cool.
I'm not cool with him.
I wouldn't.
If I saw him, it wouldn't be like when we fought, like, what's up?
I'd be cool.
If he came with the energy, I'd be like, come on, man.
We already know what happened.
Yeah, there's nothing you can do.
There's nothing you do.
I'd assume he'd be cool, but also I think he's really funny.
His whole stick with Usada.
That's it.
The secret juice.
Juice.
Secret juice.
The juice.
Yeah.
And also, kudos to him as well for learning English.
A lot of these fighters, they don't get as big as they need to be because they don't learn English.
Yep.
And then they'll promote themselves and don't get to that level that they need to get.
But he's done that and he's doing the work.
So shout out to Costa.
It's not wine, but...
Hey, man.
Cheers.
Shout out to Costa.
Cheers.
Cheers, Costa.
Cheers.
You're teaching them how to promote a fight.
Okay.
Like, you are single-handedly teaching them how to promote a fight.
I do my own interviews.
I do trailers now for my fights.
Each fight has trailers, the themes.
Like I said, The Hunter Becomes a Hunted.
He has what everyone wants, supposedly.
And I'm first in line, so he was hunting me.
Now it's time to hunt him.
And I'm going to do it different.
I already have themes.
Even there's this track.
My boy Ike, the garden gnome, he played this on his playlist, and I should have zammed it.
It's tool.
I don't know how to fucking pronounce the name.
Hold up.
P-N-E-U-M-A.
It's a 12-minute masterpiece, and it just crescendo so slowly.
And I played it in the back.
We're in the Knicks locker room, by the way.
I was number 11.
I was in number 11's space.
Is that Brunson?
Probably a bum.
That might be Brunson.
But yeah, this track just like it starts off so slow.
Is that what you walked out to?
No, no, no.
I walked out to the soft theme because that was my theme for the fight.
But this, I like this track because I'm going to use this to like, I'm going to use this for some highlight or something later on.
But this right here just got me ready for war.
So how do you pronounce that?
Let me say.
Oh, speaking of which, why no costume?
Costume.
It's business.
How do you pronounce that?
Hold up.
Nah, I need a better answer.
Numa.
Numa?
Numa?
What is up with Pete?
What's the other silent P, like pneumonia?
It's important for some fighters to learn English.
Yeah, thank you.
But yeah, no costume for this one.
So even someone said online, like, oh, when I hope you didn't let them get that.
No, it wasn't.
Nah, this is me.
For me, it's his business.
It was just like I did with Costa.
I was like, oh, it's just business.
I'm walking out and I'm handling business.
So it's not always I do that.
For certain fights, I will just because like the fucking biggest fight of my life at the time, the Robert Whitaker fight, the first one, I walked out there, I did a fucking whole set, and then I showcased and showed out.
But this one I knew was going to be different.
I need my mind to be in a different zone.
And that's why that saw them.
When I hear that track, damn, I feel violent.
I feel evil.
I feel bad intentions.
You know what I mean?
And I was walking.
I was just, I was fucking focused, bro.
Like.
The only time I felt that energy in the garden, I was there for the life of Pablo situation that he had in the garden.
That's the only time I felt the garden erupt like that.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
Wow.
Like, it was so crazy.
The lights dropped.
The red comes on.
Like, everybody felt something.
I'm not going to lie.
His music was good too.
Yeah.
It was like something like a final.
I heard it in the back and I was like, ooh.
Yeah.
Like, look, that's the shit that's moving, bro.
Yeah.
Like, that's beautiful.
That's a gangster fucking entrance.
And like I said, the costume, the villainery of it.
But now I know.
I'm going to fight him two more times.
I'm going to whoop him the next time.
And then they're going to be like a trilogy in the UFC.
And we're going to finish it off there.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm still here, bro.
We're still here.
Yeah, bro.
There's a graciousness.
Like what you were saying before, like, I remember watching Connor lose that first time when he lost the belt.
And there's a darkness in his loss.
And I'm a Connor fan, but like seeing that darkness made me sad, made me concerned for him.
Yeah.
And then seeing you, like, that's what you taught me: the confidence in your greatness.
You know what I mean?
Like, you were great.
You are great.
And you're going to continue to be great.
Like, when I fail, I get insecure where I'm like, man, my greatness is at stake.
Yeah.
But when I see you fail, it's like, yo, I'm still great.
And I'm going to continue to be great.
Yeah, I'm not sure you can.
Because you're in it.
So you might not fully grasp how much people invest in you because you're so good at, like you said, telling your hero's journey and how much they look up to you.
And so when they invest and you lose and we're sad as fuck, and then we see how you handle it, we're like, oh, shit.
That's how I should handle myself.
It's really important.
It lets you know that you can fail.
And I think especially it's life.
You're supposed to fail if you don't.
But not a lot of people fail on like the big stage, right?
Because they don't have the opportunity to be on a big stage.
Exactly.
And I think, how do you think I got there?
I did that failing a lot.
Yeah.
I was like, don't do that again.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Okay, cool.
Get there.
Oh, don't do that again.
Oh, boom, boom, boom.
Get there.
Oh, fuck.
But that shit is important because now we're in this situation where it's like, okay, well, I might fail, but that's okay because that's what I'm going to need to do to grow.
Like, there's that saying, like, if you're not failing, you're not trying hard enough.
Exactly.
No, you're not.
You're not setting yourself the big enough goals to actually attempt.
It's the attempt.
That's the thing.
Oh, so you went after this.
Like, you could have tried to dance around.
You know what I mean?
Like, you want to smoke.
Yeah.
Like, I love a fight.
It's weird enough to say, but it's like, I told Eugene backstage and Andre, my wrestling coach, I was like, I'm nervous but excited.
That was a weird mixture of calm nervousness, but excitedness.
And whenever it would bubble up, I just breathe it back down.
Just let it cycle, let it cycle.
And I was like, but I'm excited to get in there because I knew I was going to be in the fight.
It's been a while since I've been in the scrap.
You know what I mean?
And I told you this a little bit before we started, but it's like, there hasn't been too many people that have like been around.
And it could be just a black thing, but like that have made me just proud and like, oh my God, I go for this guy.
There's a few people.
Mike Tyson, you know, the feeling that Mike was like, everybody just felt like the pump filled up every time Mike's on TV.
We're so proud to root for this guy.
And then Mayweather, like after he people, after people stopped hating him, we just like, oh, I'm just proud of this guy because he's going to get the job done.
And it's like, you, you're the only person after that that it's like, I am so proud of this guy.
And you're doing it in a better way because they have like stains on their like situations.
Like, there's, I'm just so fucking inspired by you and proud of you, bro.
It's so amazing.
Thank you so much.
I'm trying to get an emotional start.
I swear to God, like, you don't understand.
You don't understand what you're doing for the family.
That's the cancer, bro.
He's a half-cancer, bro.
He feels it.
You don't understand what you fucking do for the coach.
Thanks, man.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Honestly, I'm fine.
Like, again, it's just maybe there's maybe there's some beauty in this man because, you know, I think it's sometimes very easy to be in the situation where you're in where there's almost it's very easy to develop an animosity because there's so many people trying to extract things from you.
There's so many people trying to take from you, take from you, take from you.
And now you're in a situation where they can't take from you and they just want to give to you.
They're like, hey, man, you're in a situation where you might need something.
I just want to let you know.
Like, Duval posted, Duval was just posting nothing.
That's why that hit me in the feels.
And I sent him a video or a picture with me smiling.
And I put the track smile bitch in the back and just let him know I'm fine.
Like, you know, but when you show me that text, I was like, oh, that's beautiful.
I didn't think I meant that much.
Like, connected in a way.
So maybe this is one of those things on the journey where it's like, you get to really feel already in my head.
Trust me.
I told David already, this is for the next episode, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He's in this track and this and that.
So I've already planned out certain bits, just like a rough sketch of how I want it to be.
But again, I'm going to go look after myself because I've 10 months.
I'm fighting three times.
It's not just three times of fighting.
It's fucking weeks of work, 12 weeks at each camp.
In this camp, I honestly, I didn't get crazy this camp.
Like, I think I had one vacation like eight weeks ago.
Dennis Rodman style.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not going to call it a black.
Who's in there?
But like, but like, people calling like, yo, where's Dennis at?
Nah, but like, for me, you know, other camps, you know, like, fuck, you don't even want to know what I did for the first Whitaker fight.
Why, why?
You don't want to know.
I think I really want to know.
Not off camera.
Nah, but this is years ago for the first Whitaker fight.
Dennis Rodman Style00:05:01
It was all right.
Jeff knows.
Don't lie.
Don't lie.
It was Jane Goodall right there.
He knows everything.
Good answer.
Good answer.
Now, but yeah, so for me, this camp, I just made sure I was like everything in my power, everything in my power, I made sure I put into this.
And that's what I'm proud of for the work that I put into this.
I didn't get the result I wanted, but I showcased myself in a way that I never before.
And I'm like, man, even like inspiring, man, I was taking people down, holding them down, beating them up.
And I'm like, this is too easy.
It's too fast.
So I was like, now I can, I have a new path of victory.
Y'all niggas got to watch out for my fucking takedowns.
And they haven't even seen my takedowns properly.
They saw one takedown.
My leg was compromised on the fence.
I saw you trying to pull another one, though.
I went double.
I went to single.
I tried to go, okay, under hooks.
I had double on the hooks.
I was like, okay, pull them off, go for the inside trip.
But as I tried to go for the inside trip, I had to stabilize on this leg, but it wasn't right then.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Go back.
And I just put him back on the fence and I get off.
And I just, okay, back to striking, back to striking.
But yeah, I'll be back.
And when I'm back, I'm going to be.
You know what's cool about this is that you find out that people really care about you outside of victory.
Yeah.
And that you've impacted people outside of victory.
And Duval wanted to really hit me when I showed me that.
I'm like, man.
But Duval's an example of all the people, right?
Yeah, of course.
But that's just special because I really, I love watching the way he lives his life, the way he tweets.
And I'm just like.
He's the GOAT, man.
Yeah.
He's got it figured out.
So I think, I don't know, in a way, it's really beautiful that you get to experience that when you're on top.
I can imagine that you think that a lot of the love comes with success.
Yeah.
Oh, when you're successful, when you're on top, you get he, who, she, and the mom, everyone.
And you can't really trust what's pure or not.
And now you get even more almost in a time of disappointment.
And it's like, now you got to almost re-look at all the love you've been getting in the past.
You're going, holy shit, maybe that was.
Ash felt away because he's like, I only got five texts.
But like, whenever he, you know, we one of us won, he'd get like 50, 100 subtexts.
Yeah, but he got to look at your shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, but, but, you know, so I was like, I got a few.
I was getting so much love.
Like last night, I was scrolling through and I was like, oh, I was surprised for some people even.
I was just like, man, that's really nice of them.
Even after this, I'll tell you who wants to link up.
It's crazy.
For me, I'm like, what?
Yeah, I don't want to be that guy.
I don't want to drop names.
Sorry.
Talk to us.
Talk to us.
Afterwards, afterwards, afterwards.
But yeah.
So for me, I'm just, again, grateful.
I'm so grateful to be in this position.
I know I'm blessed.
And sometimes I might not show it on social media, but fuck social media.
In real life, I'm really blessed.
I love my life.
I love the way things are going.
I love this arc of my story.
Like, again, I can't wait.
We are invested in the journey of you.
And it's crazy to see.
I remember like early on when we were doing a podcast in that tiny little room and we were all there and we were talking about what it's going to be like when you're fucking championship of the universe and like we're out here selling out crazy shows and we're just elevating to the top of our field.
We're all moving.
We're all moving.
And it's really cool to continue to reflect.
And I'm very proud of you personally.
And we still move on.
Yes, absolutely.
Cheers to that, man.
To Flagrant, the greatest hang in the universe.
Asphalt RV.
Let's go.
You already know.
We're still out here.
To the stylebender, Israel Adeson, yeah.
Thank you so much, man.
Thank you for the fits.
Yes, make sure you check this out.
EngageIND.com.
Go get all these.
Was that the episode, the four-hour one, where you guys like showed off?
I didn't see he was spray painted.
He was spray painted, bro.
I like that.
But that's like what, what's it, Leonidas did?
That's 300.
Yeah, it's literally.
So I respect that.
It looked good.
It did look good.
It looked good.
I don't know, though.
The only 300 you had was pounds, bro.
No, no, no.
You got to come with the hate.
You let go on.
Okay, okay.
No spoilers.
No spoilers.
I want to let y'all know real quick at home.
The dude who's making these shirts has been working with Izzy forever, Ash, is the guy from On Your Back and Wet Up.
I've been talking about this motherfucker for fucking years now.
I love this dude.
Go to Perth.
Trust me.
You guys, I'm going to let you come to.
Have you ever been to Australia?
No.
Let's post a new show there in December.
Sydney.
We did all of them.
We did Perth.
I know you want to Perth, but we're going to come back.
I'm going to come through.
No, we got to go with you.
It's September, right?
It's different.
No, no, February.
Feb.
February.
Feb 21st or so.
Oh, something like that.
I already bought the tickets.
We good.
Ah!
I like the fact that Dolph handles it.
He handles it.
You're hard, but we're going.
But only if Uncle Joe's going to be there.
Uncle Joe will be there.
Because you know that Thailand from Perth is like an hour flight this stuff.