DJ Akademiks and Akaash Singh dissect Lil Baby's career resurgence, Kanye West's cult-like control tactics, and Andrew Tate's strategic pivot to Islam to evade cancellation. They analyze the Atlanta rap crackdown, the "celebrity economy" in nightlife, and how comedy allows safer exploration of taboo topics compared to serious ideology. The conversation concludes by contrasting Taylor Swift's masterful industry navigation with the Ponzi-scheme dynamics plaguing older hip-hop executives, highlighting the shifting power structures in modern entertainment. [Automatically generated summary]
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Lil Baby's Cultural Impact00:14:44
Lil Baby dropped a whole can of mitt.
Do you think Kanye is using the black community right now?
Oh, of course.
You can't be 6'9 off YouTube.
You have to be 6'9 in music and culture.
Here's the thing with Tate.
It's not what he was saying.
He was packaging it better than anybody.
I even tell people, I'm like, can I make some jokes?
Y'all did the Kanye episode, but y'all were roasting.
I told Columbia to speak like Portuguese.
Come on, bro.
Play with that.
Whoa, horse.
Whoa.
Come on.
I only f dudes.
Yeah, you know what?
I want to make that clear.
What's up, everybody?
And today we have a guest making his second appearance on Flagrant.
Okay.
He is bigger.
He is stronger.
He is now more powerful.
He's more loved and more hated.
He is the ultimate prize.
It's DJ.
Bad, bad, bad.
Collecting a few infinity stones on back.
I like you.
I like you.
No, of course, man.
Fuck to me.
I was just trying to tell you, yo, I was about to, I wanted to make it to your birthday situation.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I knew you was getting money when you announced that you just want to go surfing with your friends, you know, and you weren't going to Tropical Island.
But I'm going to tell you what happened.
Okay.
I started to tell him while we're coming upstairs.
Weirdest shit ever.
And it made me, I just had a whole new realization about what's probably been going on for the last three years.
I ain't trying to get too deep, but I've been getting deep with it.
I will tell you, that's why I go.
I was sick like four days ago.
Okay.
Sick.
Are you going to say you believe in COVID?
No, no, no.
Crazy shit.
Crazy shit.
Thank you.
This is like a Kyrie Irving thing.
No, no, no.
Monkeybox is real.
No, no, no.
This is crazy.
Four days ago, I'm sick.
I go to the doctor.
Now, I remember, I remember, like, it's really, it's my mom who really, like, my mom came over.
It's like, yo, you got, like, you pay mad money for health insurance.
You got to go to the doctor.
Like, you can't just tough everything out.
Yo, we go, I go to this place, and it's the same fucking doctor I went to the last time I got tested for COVID.
And they said, I had it.
Bro, I get tested again, right?
They tested for all types of stuff, flu.
The only thing that comes back positive, COVID.
I'm like, fuck.
Now, here's the thing.
The last time I went, hold on, how many days ago?
I just told you I got to film the fucking movie.
Here's a story.
Yo, I'm seeing Lil Baby, bro.
You were right, bro.
Yo, the story not done.
Okay, go, go.
Get to it.
First of all, oh, yeah, my bad, my bad.
All right.
On your cheek right here.
COVID, son.
You got some residual COVID.
Yo, anyway, here's the thing.
The first time they tested me positive, man, I never felt healthier in my life.
It was kind of weird.
So anyway, this time I was kind of like feeling a little under the weather, but I'm like, fuck it.
Okay.
They say they have some drugs for it.
They say, yo, we're going to prescribe you.
There's a COVID medicine.
I'm like, perfect.
They prescribe it.
I'm driving to the pharmacy.
I swear.
20 minutes later, they call me.
They call me back.
They said, oh, by the way, we made a mistake.
You don't have COVID.
I promise you.
I've never seen such a thing.
I said, what the fuck do you mean I don't have COVID?
You just told me I had it.
They gave me a printout.
It says, you have COVID.
They call me back.
They said, oh, the nurse is trying to call you.
No, you don't have it.
I said, no fucking way.
I said, how could y'all give me a printout that said I had it?
They said, oh, we just read the chart wrong.
I swear.
I swear.
So now they're like, oh, just go home.
I'm like, well, I'm not feeling the best.
Like, what the fuck?
No medication?
They ended up giving me some like, you know, they were like, oh, you probably just had some type of cold.
Yeah, yeah.
But then the whole time, so I went there, they canceled the COVID medication.
I got regular medication, you know, which worked.
You know, I started to feel much better.
Today's the best I felt.
And I started thinking about it, and I'm like, I feel like this whole show is a sham.
Whoa.
No, it's a rush.
Whoa.
No, no, hot takes.
Hot takes.
You're saying that.
No, no, no, no.
This is how I rationalize.
Oh, no, This is how I rationalize.
Notice how I rationalize, I swear.
I was like, podcast demonetized.
Nah, nah, nah.
YouTube page yanked.
No, no, no.
Come on, y'all can edit around this, man.
I'm not going to Kanye yet.
Yo, all I'm trying to say is this.
Nobody benefited more than the cancel culture than Freshman Fit.
Nobody did.
The more people get canceled, the more they got to go on Fresh and Fit.
I don't, I ain't gonna lie.
Freshman Fit is like dancing with the stars for if your YouTube page got taken up.
Oh, don't play my voice like that.
So this is my thing.
YouTube kicks you out.
You're like, let me cursing some other bitches.
This is my thing.
I ain't trying to say.
You don't have a father.
Yo, I'm like Maury with one answer.
Yo.
But I thought about it.
I'm like.
I told you, Kyrie did not call this as soon as I started this.
No, I said, talk to me.
I said they gave me a printout that said I got it.
They're going to submit data to the CDC and the state that I got it.
Right?
So in the system, they just gave me a phone call.
They didn't say come back for another printout.
In the system, I got it.
They just hit me with a phone call, like, nah, you really ain't got it.
How do you know it was them?
Bro, I called them back.
What if it was Meek Mill?
What if it was one of your haters?
You got haters now.
You got famous, rich haters.
You don't think that a couple phone calls could be made?
Yo, I just saw academics get a coach.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I normally give them the wrong answer.
Boom.
Call Fauci.
That's it.
The haters I got.
If they're giving me a shot, it wouldn't be you with a needle be something else.
So.
Bam, bam, bam.
I don't know.
What do you think that they would shoot you at?
Seaman?
Yo.
I don't know, man.
This guy's crazy.
Whoa.
What time haters do you think I got?
Son, I don't know.
Maybe in certain communities, alphabets are coming for you, bro.
Yeah, no, no, no, no.
I love telling you.
I'm not sure.
I'm some booty goons at you and shit like that.
Yo, I've always thought I was like extreme until I started seeing what was going on with everybody else.
And I'm like, damn, I think I might turn back into Lil Act now.
Like, fuck this.
I'm seeing some shit.
I just thought I was like the most hated.
And like, people have tried to cancel me a lot of times.
And then I started seeing what real cancellation is.
I'm like, fuck.
I mean, yay.
I'm like, I could use my bank account.
Like, shit.
I'm still on Twitter and Instagram.
I might be shadow banned, but at least I'm still on it.
Yeah.
I also started realizing I'm a little bit too pussy to talk about certain shit.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I was on my stream recently and I'm like, well, my audience was like, they're gassing me up.
That's what a lot of shoot does.
I'm off the henny.
They're gassing you up to like, yo, now Kanye's speaking the truth about those people.
I'm just calling those people.
That sounds way worse.
That sounds way worse.
It sounds worse.
That's you, people for juice.
I'm so pussy.
I'm not even saying the names, bro.
I'm just saying the truth.
Fuck it.
Who are you talking about?
The blacks?
Yeah.
I'm going to just say them people, bro.
So they're gassing me up.
Like, no, Ak, we know you always speak the truth.
Oh, yeah.
Like, yo, let us know.
I'm like, Kanye's fucking wrong.
Okay.
I'm not going to do it.
I have nothing.
Yo, I'm telling you, this is a bag chaser, bro.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Well, it's not even only that yo.
Bag chaser.
So let me take those people.
Which people?
Wait, which people?
Yo, put him in a separate shot.
I don't know.
I don't know which one you were talking about.
Yo, you a bag chaser.
Hey, listen.
Where the bags at the bank?
You might be like half one of them people, so I ain't gonna say nothing.
Who knows, bro?
Who knows?
You see, I watched the podcast that was told by he was quiet.
He was talking.
I know what it is.
What is it?
I don't know.
Yo, it's the first time.
Yo, it's the first time that black people have to feel what white people have to feel when the N-word comes around.
We don't still talk about hilarious.
I don't even know if I'm saying it right.
So I don't have nothing to say.
Yeah.
That's how y'all feel when we talk about.
What do you think's a better holiday?
Christmas or Hanukkah?
Brother, man, I just like drinking my drink, bro.
I just like drinking my drink.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I want no problems.
Yeah, let me help you out.
Let me help you out.
You guys want to throw that on real quick?
Sorry, you be good.
Hey, hey, listen, I want no problems with those kids.
And I love everybody.
He's like, wait, you allowed to throw these things?
That was a frisbee.
I played disc golf right there.
That was crazy.
They got me.
Listen, I have no opinion on it.
Period.
Nothing?
Nothing.
But you're a big ass.
Listen, I didn't know what to do.
This is one of the first things.
You speak the truth.
Yeah, you talk about anybody, bro.
Meet Mills, Lil Baby.
Yeah, I speak the truth about niggas.
You're right.
You're right.
Come on.
No, bro.
We should be our own, bro.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Yeah, please.
Even when, see, now I can talk about the regular stuff now.
But when Kanye started talking that George Floyd stuff, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ah, you know what I mean?
Like, maybe get a little defamation soon, but he'd be alright.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but the other stuff he's saying, he's wilding.
You wild.
Wilding, man.
Why do you think he's wearing blue today?
Wild, but oh, you are wearing the good team.
You're on the solidarity.
I'm like, oh, Jack guy.
I love you.
I'm like, that ass fluid point, Israeli flag.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm down with him, man.
Cool with my level.
Yeah.
I got no problems with them.
Whoever they are.
No, I'm shook, bro.
I can tell.
I can't wait till this moment has passed that we can get back to talk about regular things.
Like that, I mean, regular things where everybody could have open and honest discussion about without like Terry Sammy can't be honest about it.
Yeah, no, we can't.
No, we can't really have a.
Like, play this evening and Kyrie shit, right?
First of all, I'm not educated enough to speak on it, but I wouldn't even ask questions publicly.
How much education do you need?
Like, I wouldn't even be like, yo, so wait, why is this?
Nah, you know what?
You got it.
It is offensive.
I don't even know why it's offensive, but it felt offensive.
You can ask, and then we'll have like another.
I'm good.
Yeah.
You're sure?
I'm not sure.
They often say that the people who don't ask the questions are the Nazis.
That's true.
That's true.
What do you think Hitler did?
The people did, they didn't listen.
They asked questions.
Lil Baby dissed me twice on his album.
Let's get into some things we could talk about.
Lil Baby dissed me twice on his album, unprovokingly, bro.
Yeah, did he?
No.
Wait, why do you think he came at you?
Is it because you weren't talking about what's been going on with Kanye?
I don't know.
I think he's scared of what Kanye got going on.
Actually, no, let's be honest.
The way I'm scared of talking about that, he dissed me because he's scared of, you know, I mean, them people, too.
Please explain.
Please explain.
You know what I'm talking about?
I was like, who done it?
No one else.
Serious.
But who is it?
Who did it?
He was in the temple with the yarn.
The colonel stick.
Well, he's scared of the start with an R, and I'm going to leave it at that.
Retards?
That's the R word.
They're extremely strong.
That is scary.
Who are the R's?
I know what I'm talking about.
Red.
Ragged Talk.
They got gut and thug locked up over it.
Oh, Rico.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Atlanta rappers.
Yeah, Atlanta rappers right now, really.
Because they all could be connected in something.
Can you explain to me what's going on with the young thug and them in prison?
ISL, all that.
I don't know what they do in prison.
What do you mean in prison?
Or why they're in prison?
Yeah, why are they in prison?
I mean, according to what, like, again, this is if you want to believe them peoples.
This is the district.
We're talking about district attorney.
Is the district attorney one of them peoples?
Or is it?
Oh, those.
I thought it's a black woman.
No, I think it just means no, those are the peoples.
Wait, wait, who's the peoples?
Who's on first?
Who's on first?
Yeah, who is on first right now, dude?
The peoples, bro.
But who is the peoples?
Them.
Baruka Tada Nooya, Le Geno Mel Colomb.
I don't know what he just did right there, but you can't dispel any.
That's voodoo.
That was voodoo.
He said that three times.
You can't.
I don't know what he just said.
But the right people are like you.
Anyway, no, for real.
So Atlanta rappers, a lot of them have been doing a little bit extra BS.
So, like, you know, the cops cracking down.
Ah.
You know what I mean?
And right now, if you're a gangster rap out of Atlanta, it wouldn't be wise to rap about anything that's real because they're going to use your lyrics against you.
So, you know, what's Lil Baby's dropping an album?
This is an internet media person.
Oh, because he can't really talk about that stream.
He can't talk about the real guys.
Oh.
So he's trying to throw the smoke screen, but I'm going to clear the smoke screen up.
Like, you ain't about to throw the smoke screen at me now.
Oh, because you handled it.
You said that Lil Baby would be done by 2025.
You said you would be bigger.
No, I didn't say I would be bigger.
You said it was you versus them.
You put a million on it by 2025.
I said by 2025, let's watch how the narrative of his career goes.
What does that mean?
Yeah, that's vague.
That's more vague than you were being earlier.
That was smart.
I was talking to the people.
But you did.
I was talking to some different peoples.
They know what I'm talking about.
And what?
How many group chats are you in?
How much is going on?
Those peoples, bro.
Like the people.
Who are those people?
Hold on.
Do those people not text you on Saturdays?
He doesn't get it.
He truly doesn't get it.
He truly doesn't get it.
Something about this Jehovah.
What the shit we're talking about?
No, no, no.
I don't know what you're talking about.
But yeah, those peoples.
Yeah, no, no.
So, I mean, I like Lil Baby's music, though.
Yeah, the Lil Baby's good.
I just found, listen, I told you about this.
I think we were talking about this before.
White people have just started finding out about Lil Baby, which is dope because he's a really good musician.
And I told you this before that we only have enough room for one baby.
And now, with everything that happened to Dub Baby, there's been room for Lil Baby.
And then there was that white girl that lip-synced his verse.
I think that's why I'm talking about who that's how white people found out about Lil Baby.
There was a white girl at a wedding who lip-synced the Lil Baby verse on TikTok.
I didn't see this shit.
Oh my God, this was huge.
It was massive.
And then white people basically found out.
Once he pose up, you'll see it.
White Girl Lip-Syncs Verse00:15:10
You know, never see this shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the Drake song.
Yeah.
She killed it.
Yeah, she lip synced on some needs.
That's what made white people white little baby.
Damn.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's what made white people.
Yeah, yeah, this one.
Anyway, so yeah, so Lil Baby, you guys are beefing, but I don't like this.
I like Lil Baby.
I want to see his career flourish.
Why are they saying that?
Why are they saying that people are accusing you of snitching?
Because he said he would snitch.
No, no, no.
First of all, technically, and we're going to get real technical because unfortunately, I hate this what I hate about niggas.
We're talking.
Niggas act like black culture does climb culture.
So let me just let anybody know.
Yeah, yeah.
I could never technically be a snitch.
I don't do no street shit.
You're a live line.
So if only if you believe in crime culture do you believe that someone be a snitch?
I'm not, I'm not in the street going back and forth with Lil Baby or whoever else doing street activity.
So if somebody does something to you, they punch you in the face as you walk out this building, right?
And if the cops come and be like, yo, what happened?
What do you say?
Do you say, oh, no, I just started randomly bleeding and they took all.
No, I'm going to say exactly what happened.
But he also is a snitch.
Yeah.
That's not a snitch.
But I'm fine with that label.
Yeah.
I would self-identify as a snitch.
But I understand what's going on.
First of all, first of all.
Yeah.
First of all, labels like that don't fuck with me.
I don't care about it.
I'm not in the streets.
Hip-hop cares about it.
Now, I made a joke.
I said, listen.
They use rap lyrics against people.
So I never said, like, me and him don't have any issue.
Like, like, nothing has really happened.
Yeah.
Right.
Other than the lyric that he says I could get touched, which I think he's trying to fondle me.
You know what I mean?
You think Lil Baby wants to play with your little baby?
I think he's trying to fondle me.
I think he's trying to fondle me.
Wait, are you saying you think Lil Baby wants to touch his face?
Because what other touches could he be talking about?
I don't know, your breast or something?
You think he wants to hold you from the back and jerk you?
Man, I think you think I got a fat ass.
Yo, wait, wait, wait.
Wait a minute.
Maybe I got fat ass.
I don't know.
Wait a minute.
He trying to fondle me, bro.
He said, I could get touched.
He didn't say he would beat you up.
He didn't say he would kill you.
Think about it.
Holy shit.
Maybe that's his way of avoiding me.
My shit shriveled up when I heard that.
I was like, oh, my God.
No.
You said shriveled up or tripled up?
No, tripled.
That's what I heard.
Wow.
That's a clean ears, man.
They all shriveled up.
I'm like, oh, no.
That's his way of avoiding the Rico, though, because he's going to make it seem sexual.
But at the end of the day, me and Lil Baby is about that life.
You might not be.
I think he was trying to fondle me.
Yeah.
I love the self-confidence.
But here's the thing, though.
So I joked and I said, yo, whoa, these are the same type of lyrics if it doesn't mean you're trying to fondle me.
That if you ever get locked up, they're going to play court.
So when they play this in court and they're like, hey, well, we know academics.
Let's ask academics what he thinks it means.
Now, I could say, well, I think he was just trying to fondle me.
Right.
Where I could say, I'm in fear of my fucking life.
Yeah.
So that's all I was trying to say.
However.
So you were warning him.
You were threatening him.
Listen, listen.
If you're a rapper in Atlanta, if you can't rap about tough shit, don't quasi-rap about tough shit to non-tough people.
Like, just shut it down.
Rap about Dior, Christian Louboutin.
Do that.
Yeah.
That's it.
It's a different energy.
You have an interesting way to go.
I'm just saying, before you used to say, hey, I'm a journalism pussy.
I'll snitch.
I'll go to the cops.
Now, all of a sudden, you big act.
Don't fuck with me.
I'm big act.
Do you know what?
It's different energy than you have like me.
None of you don't know that energy.
It's the same energy.
That's not the same energy.
No, no, no.
Let's hear them out.
Same energy.
It's the same energy.
That's why I said, listen, I play my, in the game, I play my role.
That's why I'm big act.
I'm not big act because I'm a tough guy in the streets.
Oh, it sounds it.
If Lil Baby wants to trade jabs with me, give me three years and let's see how the narrative goes.
I'm in the media, my guy.
You never beef with the media.
Let me tell any rapper that.
You beef with the media, you're going to lose.
Who runs the media?
That's what I was wondering.
Who runs the media?
Big act.
You want a little bit more Hennessy?
Well, listen, nobody runs my portion of the media.
Right.
I operate off a lot of times respect and ego.
Yeah.
Which means if you disrespect me, I'm going to make sure that at every point, there's a cost.
I don't give you the benefit of the doubt.
I take things personally.
Do you think that, and I mean this sincerely?
Do you think that you have negatively impacted Meek Mills' career?
I mean, we cool now, so I would like to think not.
Oh, really?
You guys.
It was cool.
Yeah, we talked to it on the phone.
It was cool.
Okay, good.
But I think this new song bunch fire.
Fire.
Yeah.
You heard it?
You gotta play it.
This guy's a lunatic, bro.
Hold on, I'm serious.
You are sick, bro.
That cough was sick.
Nah, it wasn't.
Yeah, that was, yeah, that was a slack.
That cough was sick, man.
I cleared my throat.
Like, you know what I mean?
It's a Hennessy.
Okay.
So.
Wait, wait, no, no, I'm serious.
No, no, I have no problem with him, though.
Like, mutual respect.
And trust me, I try to get to that place.
I'm going to tell you where it started off battle with Lil Baby.
Real quick, real quick.
I just want to know what happens.
Like, does that start to go genuinely, I'm asking?
Yeah.
Does it start to make you operate in a different way when you go, let's say hypothetically, you have negatively impacted a very famous rapper's career who came at you?
It's not like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not like just one side.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, does it make you go, oh, shit, I got to be careful what I say?
Because I could do this to other people.
No, of course.
Okay, so you.
Of course.
Like, I'm very, I'm cognizant about these things.
Right.
You know, but if we're at the point where you're saying, fuck me, and I'm saying, I don't give a fuck about you.
Now it's on.
Listen, there's been a lot of people who, during their decline or whatever, like, I give them a little bit more leeway than getting online and just pushing that narrative that that music is trash.
You call them first?
No, no, no, but, but sometimes they're working it out.
Lil Baby dropped a whole can of mid.
I'm going to let people know 10 hours in.
Wait, really?
Yeah, there's a whole can of mid.
Really?
Whole can of mid.
You can't name two songs from there.
That's true.
That's a fact.
Four out of four, but I love me at threesome.
That was some great shit.
By the way, here's the interesting part too.
Because when I was thinking about how I respond to that, I only know if.
He said, I prefer four, but I love me at threes.
Got you, got you.
But I only know if the album's good or not if Grand Wizard posts about it.
And he said the album was fire.
He got paid for that one.
Really?
No, Grand Wizard, you taking money?
Niggas got to get paid, bro.
I mean, he deserves it.
It's the best Instagram page, man.
It's the best Instagram page.
It's not bad.
It's just a bunch of forgettable songs.
Okay.
And people wanted some more hits.
There's not one bona fide hit on there.
Alex disagrees, I think.
You can't.
I actually haven't heard it, so I can't answer.
So here's the thing, no.
Everybody gave him a benefit of doubt.
Everybody gave him a benefit of doubt.
No, because I think he's pushing the narrative that he's mid because he's fucking with him.
No, I talked to his peers too.
I talked to other people who rap who are in similar, maybe not at the same position he's at, but just in similar echelons.
They're all shocked that this is the album that was dropped.
Granted, he dropped 18 months of hits.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right on On Me.
All those songs, hits, hits, hits, hits.
He drops his first two songs going into this album.
One's called Hey.
You know what I mean?
I thought it was an LGBTQ, you know what I mean, Anthony.
You know what I mean?
Hey, hey, hey, Anthony.
It's crazy.
Real talking, I'm sure.
How did you do that wrist thing?
That was impressive.
You went, hey, hey, hey, hey.
I'm seeing people, man.
And also.
But you keep on doing it.
And that's what he do.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So he dropped two mid songs when he went into the album.
And then the album just really has a bunch of men on it.
It's not trash, though.
Right.
But he was in a position to elevate by dropping a banger.
And the banger isn't there.
Here's the thing.
Even though it's not trash, I could also amplify the, I'm going to amplify the fact that it's mid, which might be just a detrimental if it was trash.
Sorry.
I see what you're saying.
How long has it been out, though?
It's been out tweets though.
Shit ain't hitting like that, bro.
I'm telling you.
Drake coming next week.
We got Big Taylor who's in the building.
She's dropping some amazing shit.
You know what I mean?
Nobody's listening to particular songs off that.
Does he still get played?
Of course.
He's popular.
So, as I said, with me, I play the slow game with every rapper.
I said nice little three years.
You know what I mean?
Every rapper, I look at it.
I'm like, you're the man right now, huh?
I say this, and it's more of a compliment than anything, but you do seem different than you were last time.
I think it's mature.
Because last time you were like, these rappers ain't touching me.
Ain't none of them doing anything.
Ain't none of them about that life.
I mean, it was.
No, hold on.
I'm fear for your life.
No, a little baby about that life.
I still feel for his life.
No, no, no, a little baby about that life.
But that's not where I'm at with him.
And also, even though I'm going to dismiss that, could get touch comment because all y'all are under investigation.
So you're not going to have me over here like, oh my God, this big bag.
No.
The reason why, ever since I mentioned it, I got called from everybody from Atlanta is because they know it's real.
These rappers in Atlanta can't really rap about shit because the DA is on everybody's necks.
So I just say, don't, if y'all ran out of people to be tough against, don't try to get the, oh, I could be tough versus act point.
Because I'm not even believing it.
I don't feel in fear of my life overlooked.
Do you think that impacted the album though, that he wasn't able to rap about?
Maybe like maybe his most fired tracks.
Of course.
Hey, listen.
Gunner and Thug got locked up and they had a bunch of songs slated to drop either individually or with other people or got canned.
You know why?
You don't want to be releasing potentially more evidence that people are going to be.
If you have features with Thug or with Gunner, then you can't put them out.
And let's keep it real.
The most self-incriminating bars usually hit the hardest.
Hardest.
Come on, man.
Yes.
I shot a nigga over there.
You know what I mean?
Left the body over there.
I got the gun on me now.
Like, whoa!
I can't say that no more.
Like, it's a rap.
So what should he have done?
Just not put it out?
Well, it's been a couple years since his album was released, so he couldn't push it back any further.
I think they just got to be creative.
You know, they're in a tough spot.
And that's why I did explain the whole, like, when people are saying, oh, you're going to snitch them.
No, like, me and him, we're not into no issues.
And if he did get into legal problem, it would never be against me.
So don't, I don't want, if something happens to him, people look for the scapegoat.
And since I'm the popular guy, they blame it on me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I know they're all in a tough predicament.
I'm just saying, I don't believe that rap.
How does hip-hop adjust?
You can't get a lot of it.
You got to get out of Atlanta.
Why?
What is it about Atlanta?
You got a DA that's trying to become Kamala Harris.
And she's realized that rappers are kind of, you know, the moment that T.I. said that Atlanta was the black or it was the modern day Wakanda.
Yeah.
Every rapper was going there, having a lot of success, and they were treating the community like this was someplace that rappers could operate more than just celebrities.
So some of what the, this is what the police are saying.
They believe a lot of them rappers down there, they started getting to street gangs and start funding them.
What does that do?
Start funding crime.
Crime is going up.
So crime been going up for like the last six, seven years.
And they're looking for a blame.
They're looking for escape.
And every time when somebody gets killed and they catch the perpetrator, perpetrator is going to be like, yo, I'm representing this gang.
And they say, what's the name of the gang?
I won't say no names, but they'll notice this gang is being blasted through the speakers all over the town.
It's inevitable.
And if you're the DA and you take down a big public-facing person, even if it's not the main person, it looks great for your rappers.
And also, it took this DA to do it because it's a black DA.
It's interesting.
If it's a white, listen, we're streaming racism.
If it's a white person, it's a white person.
Absolutely.
There's a DA in Philly who named a bunch of like, you know, gangs that also some of them are like rap groups too.
Yeah.
And people look at them like, the way you said that, kind of racist.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
When it's a black woman, it's like, don't say nothing.
Now that's interesting because I know that just speaking from like some friends who live in Atlanta, they're tired of the crime.
Like they're like, it's ridiculous.
Yo, yeah.
Like, like, I even, yo, shit, I told Duvall to meet me in Buckhead, right?
Yeah.
Because I'm feeling Buckhead is nice.
He goes, he goes, no, I can't go over there.
I'll go, why?
They robbing over there.
I can't do it.
Like, that was his excuse for not wanting to go out to have dinner, right?
And he goes, yo, it's not, the weird thing is, is this, is we'll go in there, someone might recognize me in the restaurant, and then a phone call is made, and all of a sudden they're waiting for me to go get my car outside, or they're following it down.
So it's like inside jobs everywhere.
So when the community's that frustrated with the crime, they're looking for, I don't want to call it a scapegoat if they're directly involved, but if they're not involved, you're not going to brag about crime in a place where people are fed up with the fucking crime.
Yeah.
So I see why there's so much popularity with the DA, even amongst the people in Atlanta.
Yeah.
Well, that DA is very personable to the people that's not in the rap precincts.
Like, for example, the reason why Thug and Gunner in jail is because before she became a DA, right?
She promised the mom of a man who got murdered that I'm going to get justice for your son.
While doing additional investigation, she's built up this extra huge case to say the reason why he died is because this faction is beefing with this faction.
You know what she does to keep her promise?
Let's lock both of them up.
So really, that's what it is.
You know what I mean?
Everyone's like, you know, social media is pretty dumb.
So everyone's like, yo, they're only using lyrics.
No, there's murders.
Right, right, right.
There's tons of murders.
If there wasn't real crimes going on, there wouldn't be an investigation.
But that's what social media says.
You know what I mean?
Like, social media will have people think on a stupid level.
Well, it's people like academics just on stream saying some shit that got these guys locked up.
No, you're doing crimes.
Like, you know what I mean?
The state's not going to give you money to investigate something unless there's a legitimate concern.
But people online are stupid.
And also rappers have a good way of spinning it.
Because they have influence.
They can go and they can speak.
You got Hadi Kardashian tweeting about fucking releasing Gunna.
How do you explain to the people, right?
How do you explain to the people that you have zero accountability with the crime that's increasing, right?
You just make it up like, oh, no, these guys are targeting us because we come from a certain community and we rap about certain things.
But the things you rap about are completely innocuous and we have nothing to do with it.
You know what I mean?
It's tough.
But nobody talks about the bodies.
You also have to, I don't know if you still have to.
I'm 38, but you had to be real when I was growing up as a rapper.
You can't just be talking this shit and not live it.
Rappers Spinning Legit Concerns00:07:10
Yeah.
So if you're talking it and then you're saying you're real and then people are prosecuting and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, y'all are running with a narrative.
It's BS.
It's like, you say you live your raps.
That's the whole point.
Why are you accusing me of being real?
Yo, yo, the conversation nobody really wants to really have is, man, as much as we like these rappers, and I would never advocate for any of them, even little baby.
Like, I love his music.
I wouldn't advocate for him because I don't know what he's doing.
Yeah, yeah.
So I know these guys as rappers.
I'm not in the streets.
I don't know if these guys are killers, these guys are sending it.
I don't know.
Yeah.
They need to do the same thing in California.
That's why we're seeing rampant crime.
Yeah.
You got to approach it.
Like, I'm not saying what she's doing is what needs to be done.
But if you don't approach when crime starts to build, where everybody's like, yo, what they're brazenly saying, if somebody walks into a restaurant, like, yo, let's rob in broad daylight.
Yeah, that's crazy.
If you're sometimes, you got to start indicting whole groups.
I'm sorry.
You got to get aggressive.
But, you know, California pussy, at least the DAs of police over there.
Fulton County, they're not.
That's Atlanta.
Yeah, they're not.
Yeah.
I mean, eventually it's going to happen.
I think the people start to get fed up enough where they're like, we need somebody to be responsible or held accountable for what's happening in the community.
And I don't know if it's hit that in California.
I got to like, we got to like ask people over there.
I think there's been enough people trying to recall Gascon, who came from San Francisco, ran that place to shit, came to LA, been run to shit.
It's just gotten worse since COVID.
And same thing.
It's like Atlanta probably has what they have, follow-home robberies, someone tipping you off.
And those crimes are just rampant in LA.
Would you, I asked you this before, but like, if you went to LA, are you moving different knowing that?
No, of course.
I'm not doing none of that.
You're not even going out there.
No, no, no, I'll go out there, of course.
I'll go anywhere.
Well, except Chicago.
I wouldn't do many things that, you know, you know, one of these dumb terminology that, you know, when people try to criticize me, they'll throw out.
They'll be like, yo, yeah, but this nigga never outside.
You know what I mean?
You know what that means?
I'll give you the Negro translation for that.
Thank you.
Outside and vulnerable, waiting for someone to take your life, property, or for you're in a very disadvantageous spot.
Okay.
If they see you outside with hella security in a secure location, you know what they say?
Pussy.
Pussy.
Why aren't you available to kill?
Yeah, like, yeah.
I can't come slap you.
I can't come take a chain.
I can't shoot you.
Yeah.
So, you know, when I go to LA, I take the, you know, I used to stay in Airbnbs.
That was a long time ago.
I used to even stay at certain hotels where, like, you know, sometimes maybe people, like other rappers, but I realized all my enemies are only in rap.
Like, I don't got an enemy in the world who isn't a rapper.
Yeah.
But that's on you, too.
You antagonize in that way.
But what I'm saying in how I move.
So all that means, if I'm going to go somewhere, just go to the place that a rapper is going to be.
Now, here's a question.
If you're beefing with a certain echelon of rapper, right?
Not saying you even started it, but they started it.
You said this before.
You said it, I think, on the last one.
Like, there is a bit of safety there because you know nobody's want to throw away their whole fucking career to beat you up or whatever.
Are you ever worried that there's like some young whipper snapper in the gang that's like, I'm going to make my bones by getting that act?
Yes, that's that's the people I'm worried about more.
And then how do you handle that?
Because I mean, I don't want to give away your shit, but like you, you roll dolo to shit.
Like you're it depends on where you know what I mean?
So it's like if you can get in and out, whatever.
But if I'm going to LA, it's like, you know, I used to do homie security.
I don't do homie security no.
Homie security is what?
Like my boy, he'll take care of me.
I remember back in the day when that Vic Mensa shit happened and then the Migo shit happened.
I was just like, man, complex, they don't even know that they are paying us to talk shit about everybody.
And they're not providing us for it.
Yo.
Yeah.
They provided some nigga who had like ketchup stains on the show.
I'm like, yo, this might be.
So anytime we went out of town, they only pay for me.
I pay for 10 to 12 people to come out with me.
So when you see me, I'm surrounded.
However, these people ain't trained.
Like, these are homies.
Would they swing on somebody for me?
Of course.
But they're not tactical enough to know the points that you're vulnerable.
Assessing risk and stuff.
Like, we all walking.
They see four bad bitches.
They look a lot of them trying to back the number type shit.
They're not on point.
That's my homie security.
Like, I've realized I'm like, yo, you got to get more professional with this because regular people be a liability.
What is security cost?
Like you're going on a trip, for example.
What are you spending?
You're going to LA for the week.
Good security.
Okay, so if I'm going there, I'm with cops because I need somebody who can shoot somebody.
I don't want nobody who, this ain't no fist fight type situation.
So like even when I went to the breakfast club, even Charlamagne hit me was like, yo, I don't think you should come, bro, because I'm hearing that they might try to charlamate you.
You know what I mean?
Really?
I'm like, nah, I got like three of New Jersey finest with me.
You know what I mean?
Armed and ready to go.
You get me?
And they see a dude in a suit.
Yeah.
And in that situation, a couple thousand.
I'm going to be honest.
Well, it wasn't for a day.
It was like for like six hours.
So it's a couple thousand per person or two.
Well, for that, I probably pay like, let me see, like $2,500 to like $2,800.
For six hours.
Yeah.
So if you're going away for a week and that's 24-hour security or whatever, that's a lot of money, man.
But if you need 24-hour security, bro, you shouldn't go.
Yeah.
Like, again, you shouldn't need security when you're going out in public.
But if you're in the hotel, which most people are kicking it in, you shouldn't need whatever, whatever.
But if you're stepping out in public, you need it.
Yeah.
You and fake names and all that in the hotel, checking in under fake names and all that?
Of course, yeah, of course.
Yeah, you know.
And again, keep in mind, I try to travel less than most people travel.
So like, it's not like I'm bumping into a lot of people, but.
Is it worth it?
Do you ever go like, ugh, do I want this stress?
No, it is worth it.
It is worth it.
Well, I don't know about for other niggas.
It's worth it for me.
But like, I understand.
No, I understand you're making money.
You're obviously doing really well.
And I'm sure you're like finding things that are enjoyable that you can do with the money.
But there's a cost, right?
It's like, I am talking shit about potentially dangerous people that puts me in danger.
And you got to weigh that, right?
Like, do you have a number that you hit?
Like, let's say you hit, I'm going to just throw a random number.
Let's say you hit $200 million.
Is there a number where you're like, you know what?
I'm going to tap out the game.
I've got enough money where I can live an enjoyable life.
I can live off the interest.
I can't even spend this fucking money if I want to.
Now they want to see me with $200 million.
Who is they?
Nobody.
Now I'm really on y'all ass.
I'm sorry.
Like, I have fun doing this, brother.
I'm sorry.
Okay, so the fun outweighs the risk of just like potentially being murdered.
I mean, you don't necessarily kind of just always think like, oh, yeah, someone's trying to kill me, but inherently comes with it.
Tapping Out The Game00:06:37
And do you, is it like...
It's like skydiving.
Go, This is like black people's version of white people shit.
I'm going to play with crocodiles.
And it's like, but you could die, but you're like, but it's fun, though, you know?
Yes.
I just do that for fun.
He's doing it for fun.
No, he said he doesn't have a lot of fun.
He said he'd do it more if he had more money.
This guy's crazy.
No, no, put it like this.
You're an adrenaline shit.
No, no, play.
You know what I'm saying?
You're white, bro.
You're white.
Just come camping.
If I had 200 million.
I'm camping one time.
If I had $200 million, I would be unafraid to speak out against anyone and anything.
Every group?
Yes, every group.
I'm taking that shit out in cash.
I'm sorry.
You're saying you don't need banks?
Is that what you're saying?
He's going DEF CON 3, baby.
No, I guess what I'm saying is, yes, you enjoy it, but is there a certain amount like, I don't know, have you ever gone on vacation that you loved and you're like, oh, I just love this place.
I'd like to spend more time here.
I don't need all this nonsense.
I only love work, bro.
Interesting.
Have you ever found any other joys outside of it?
Nah.
I don't got no kids.
Well, I don't want no kids right now.
Probably in the future.
I don't love nothing more than I love work.
I sleep three hours a day.
I love it.
I love it more than I love sex kind of the same.
But I ain't gonna lie.
If there's nothing I love more than this.
Like there's no hobbies.
There's no, there's no, okay.
I've seen people.
This is how greatness is achieved.
I just want to let you know.
Me and Adam, we always have this conversation.
And like, I could tell he's like, yeah.
22?
Yeah.
And he's like, I'm ready to move on to other things.
I'm like, I'm like, what else is there?
What else is there, dog?
You know what I mean?
And now, granted, do I want to eventually, you know what I mean, like do some movies or some other shit?
But yeah, but it's kind of like, I love culture.
I love all of this shit.
Yeah, you love having an impact on it.
You love talking about it.
I love it, brother.
You love shaping it.
I love Lil Baby, man.
Yo, I'm just saying.
You do love Lil Baby.
Okay, and you're not going to talk about Kanye.
What's going on there?
I mean, I'll talk about Kanye.
Just that, like, do you think Kanye is dealing with mental illness right now?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, of course.
I think we all know that.
Okay.
Do you think Kanye, do you think Kanye is using the black community right now?
Oh, of course.
How so?
Listen, it was hilarious for me to watch him the flip, right?
Right?
Yo, he's like, yo, man, George Floyd ain't died from that knee on his neck.
It was the fentanyl, nigga.
They canceled his bank.
They kept reflashing back to the, yo, Adidas won't cancel me.
Yeah, yeah.
Adidas said, we're canceling him.
He comes back and he says, yo, I'm flipping.
He did die from the nearby game.
I understand now what the fuck a knee on the neck could do.
I'm like, yo, what it could cost.
I'm like, what?
Yeah.
Yo, nah, nah.
No, of course.
Well, Kanye has always done that.
Yeah, but what is Kanye's game?
Explain Kanye's game to people who don't really understand.
I don't even understand this game.
Yeah.
Because I think he uses, yo, he uses black people like we the side chick.
You get what I mean?
Yes.
Yo, yo, the side chick get more attention when you and your main chick beefing.
Beef.
Yeah.
The side should get more attention when like you and your chick, your main girl has like an off week or y'all break up for a while or when you're, you know, there's, there's certain side chicks that even when you're single, they're still a side chick.
So even when he has, he's, he got nobody, you're still the side chick.
So but your side chick can feel a little bit more special.
Oh, I could sleep the night?
Oh, shit.
But at the end, you could realize his ultimate goal.
And I also said this too.
Like, I believe there's a few rappers that I've seen come through just entertainment and few musicians in general that has an innate urge to try to create a cult.
And it's not about what they do right or do wrong.
They want to have complete control.
Yeah.
I don't even think it's about money necessarily for Ye.
I think it's about complete control.
Yeah.
And he's controlled the rap shit already.
He's like, all right, let me make some shirts with some holes in it.
It's fire?
Thought so.
Let me do this.
Swire?
Thought so.
Don't with you niggas.
Now let me go high.
You know what I mean?
And you said who else, right?
Yeah.
These people don't compare, though, because they're not as big.
I think Nikki wishes her fanbase was a cult.
But it's not even off that level.
You know what I mean?
She's not spreading almost ideology.
She's just kind of spreading stanism.
You know what I mean?
Like, yo, just love me unconditionally.
Like using them.
Yeah, yeah.
Just be like, yo, I'll.
This person diss me.
Go get her.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll weaponize you guys.
Arms will handle it.
She says that a lot.
She doesn't have the ability to move the world like Kanye does.
He really has the inability to move the world.
I think X did.
Yo, X. Fuck.
Yo, I'm telling you, I had conversations with X.
I think he even said it on our last interview.
He's like, yo, if something ever happened to me, it's like, there'll be a million people that commit suicide.
And like, he believed that.
And the way he put that down, it was kind of like letting this audience know that I like.
Yeah.
If I end, it all ends.
Yeah.
You think that's why he prayed in every album?
Or that he just, that was his distraction to God.
That's how I took it, but maybe there's something.
I knew he studied cults, though.
So he studied cult leaders.
I remember one time he called me.
He was like, Act, you got to go.
This is my album.
This is 17.
He says, yo, cut all the lights off.
Make sure it's dark.
Sit like Indian style and listen with like your hands like folded.
I'm like, cross your legs.
Besides the point, Andrew.
I can't, motherfucker.
I can just see you like that.
But in reality, like when you see an artist, when you see artists start going beyond the scope of just, hey, support me because I'm making stuff you like.
And they're trying to control your thinking, your ideology.
That's what they're attempting to do.
I think he thought he was supposed to.
Do you think you have one?
Nah.
With the chat.
Nah, I'm going to tell you why I think I don't.
Because at times they hold me accountable.
And you can't have a cult if they're actually like challenging you.
Like, if they're like, yo, Andrew, yo, you're fucking up.
Like, that's not a cult.
Can you give an example just to prove your points to people who don't, who aren't believing you're in?
No, okay, but him.
Well, shit.
They push back on you with Kanye.
Cult Dynamics With Kanye00:12:56
Not only that, but also I went to Miami, right?
Some shit happened.
I wake up.
I'm on teams.
Shit's all crazy.
Yo, you're the prize, bro.
Yo, sneak up.
Sorry.
Pull me up, bro.
Yo, yo, hold the prize up.
Hold the prize up.
Hold on.
Wait, does the prize want some ice, though?
Prize wants some ice.
Come on, let me get the camera.
Y'all gotta realize, yo.
Come on, yo.
Dirt's the voice, baby's a hero.
Act's the prize.
Big act is the prize, bro.
Okay, wait.
So tell me, you're in Miami, right?
Miami, man.
And what happened?
Like, your girl didn't realize, like, you're the prize.
Like, what if what exactly went down?
Because the video was, the video at first looked crazy.
No, no, no.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because I was watching the video.
I was like, I don't think she thinks he's a prize.
I was like, what the hell?
Hold on.
What's going on over there?
She don't bring it down because she was right out of pocket.
I'm going to bring it down.
I'm going to bring it down.
She knows him the prize.
That's a fact.
No, no, no.
I'm going to tell you what happened.
Yeah.
Sell me.
You know, you know, oftentimes I'm in this media shit.
Yeah, there you go.
That's what I'm talking about.
Jeffrey the Butler over here.
I love this.
You got a white man serving you, Hennessy, bro.
You made it, baby.
It's like Fresh Prince of LA or Trampshake Sex.
Come on.
Anyway, yo.
So, all right, first of all, bro, did you have enough ice burn?
I'm good, man.
How about you take a shot?
You got a fight catcher, man.
Come on.
We out here.
I'm going to go see.
All right.
So, first of all, I think that was a Casamigo's Reposito Day.
I can't even blame it on Henry.
Kenny would never have me like that.
That's what he definitely did.
Kenny would never have me like that.
It's Casamigo's Reposito Day, right?
Yeah.
I do an interview with this guy, drinking a little bit.
Then, what happens in Miami?
Maybe it's my routine.
Maybe I need to break it.
Like, usually before I hit the club, I go check in with my Fresh and Fit homies.
They got the plugs to everywhere.
I don't know Miami like that.
Okay.
I go over there.
They still got a show going on.
I'm already a little bit.
Look, I get on the show.
There's this chick.
And I ain't going to lie to you.
And I'm going to say this in the nicest way possible.
Please.
The chick, like, you know, these chicks got a little build-to-body this and third.
She sounds like a man.
She sounds like Pop Smoke, I swear.
But that's kind of cool.
Nah, a chick with a Pop Smoke voice?
Maybe she's like, you don't like that?
You haven't seen what's that girl's name who's talking about backshots?
What's the girl who's saying the way she gets backshots?
She was like, oh.
No, gorilla.
Oh.
I didn't.
I wasn't going to say it.
Yeah, no, I fuck with Gorilla.
Because I was like 50-50 on being right.
And if I was wrong, that would have been crazy.
It's not Gorilla.
It's Gorilla.
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
We got to check you now.
I didn't say he did.
Racist ass.
Puerto Ricans is racist.
Low Rilla.
Wait, you like a girl with a girl with a deep voice?
Say what?
Do you like a girl with a deep voice?
Only for with back shots, bro.
Because you want to, when you're hitting it back and she goes, you want to be like, wait, is it what I hope it is?
This is a complicated story, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to tell you why, too.
I just got put onto some game going on in Miami.
I don't know if y'all heard about this.
There's somebody named Hennessy Marie in Miami.
Yeah.
This is just a, I'm going to be very careful because I love this community.
I love them.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not like that, but I love them.
Okay.
LGBTQ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Trans?
Hold on, bro.
Let me say my story.
My nigga, don't walk into some shit.
Yo, why are you tiptoeing?
I tell you the community, he just threw out some shit.
No, you can say trans.
I don't know.
Transgender.
So there was a trans.
Big dick.
Yeah, I checked his past.
Anyway, there's this whole thing.
I'm serious.
Like, I don't know if you've seen it on Twitter.
There's a person named I seen the whole thing.
Yeah.
You ever seen them fuck each other?
That shit is crazy.
Bro.
That shit is.
That is, that was crazy.
That shit is wild.
You never see it.
Sometimes we pop it on.
You can't be a Drink fan.
Dick's to ask.
Dick to ass, dick to S. Lego, like that.
All right, bro.
I got it.
It's going to be a bad thing.
Bang, bang, bang.
You never seen that?
Nah, I never really liked that.
I was about to.
You got to see that.
I wasn't about to do nothing.
Whoa, horse.
Whoa, damn.
Come on.
Come on, Add.
Shout out to LGBT.
Y'all tell me this is right.
Y'all tell me right there.
By the way, I'm just trying to give my mentality going into it.
Get that mentality, bro.
Damn, this guy.
Get that.
Yo, yo.
You never got, you never got to be able to do it.
Nah, nah, I'm not giving it to you, nothing, brother.
Oh, we can talk about a real person, bro.
I'm just saying, look, hell no.
Nah.
Y'all be doing this?
Fun time, dude.
No.
It's a fun time.
Yo, come on, bro.
You never see it.
I'll skit show y'all to Susan with Joshi.
The YouTube CEO, look at that.
Hell no.
Hell no.
Yo.
Y'all got to be honest.
Why are you age?
Why are you staring at all these dudes?
Come on, get sturdy one time.
Yo, get into yours, bro.
Yo, come on.
Come on.
Yo, Susan.
Come on.
Yo, Susan, if you're hearing this, I'm up in the studio.
They're playing all type of demonic stuff on the screen.
I'm a child of God.
How is that demonic, dude?
That's not demonic.
Look at them.
Come on.
That's your librarian.
That's the type of piece of shit I see y'all playing.
I'm going to be on the street.
Holy fuck, son.
Okay.
You better get triple dumps.
I'm watching this.
This is crazy.
Anyway, come on, for real.
Come on, bro.
It's just two women fucking.
You're staring at dudes?
That's women fucking, bro.
I don't want to ask y'all a philosophical question.
Yo, ask it.
Wait, so ask it.
The person, Hennessy Marie, in Miami, they exposed a bunch of like popular influencers that they were sucking off.
Well, yeah, they basically said they were trans, and they didn't tell the person.
That's fucked up.
They didn't tell the person.
But now, afterwards, they're releasing pictures of videos and exposed everyone.
That's fucked up.
And then they stood on it.
How did they get it?
They stood on it.
Well, you got to ask Andrew that.
You know what I mean?
You can't be objective about it.
I mean, like, I don't even look at that type of stuff.
I'm going to keep it 100, brother.
You do, though.
You do.
You know her name.
You know, Shawty's names.
You never saw a picture of her?
I like Hennessy.
It's Hennessy Marie.
You like Marie's?
I mean, I ain't never met no girl named Maria.
Let me tell you something.
You never met a girl.
You never met a girl.
Can we just look at it right there?
That's a prize.
Pretty girl, dude.
No, no, no.
There's only one surprise.
Click right there.
Click right there.
Yeah, come on now.
What's that?
That same girl.
Would you fuck?
Keep it 100.
I have a wife, dude.
I'm married.
Bro.
I have a wife.
I'm a little bit.
I'm a pastoral weekend.
No, no, no.
I don't do that.
But you're saying in my past life.
Are you asking because you would fuck?
No, no.
I'm asking because it looked like he was getting breakfast.
In a completely consensual situation, will we share?
For the boys.
Yo, Me and you with the boys.
Hey, hey, hey.
Don't make a dick.
He's right here.
He's right here.
Nah, nah, you right there.
I don't think Hennessy Marie could take all four of us, yo.
That would be crazy.
You're right.
She could take all five of y'all.
All of them into it.
Why you got to bring you a Jewish dude, dog?
That's crazy.
Come on, bro.
Come on, son.
Wait.
Have you not gone through enough?
He's gone through enough of these.
He's inclusive.
Oh, I see.
I see what you're saying.
So you are included.
No, no, no, no.
Anyway, so that was the thing, right?
Yeah.
It's sweeping Miami.
Like, everybody with a blue check mark in Miami, she done sucked off.
She done sucked off, so she exposed them all.
You got caught up.
I go, no, I go on the podcast, fresh and fit.
There's a person there with a deep voice.
Sound like pop smoke, bro.
I'm telling you, like pop smoke from the grave.
I'm like, yo.
So I'm asking, like, no disrespect, but I'm trying to check, like, like, how many, like, let's see what a chromosomal situation is.
You don't know how many she had?
No, no, no.
I just want to see if there's an X and a Y or two X's.
You feel me?
You don't know other ways.
You're going to see if she had Down syndrome.
That's why I asked.
I was like, she might have Down.
That too.
Wait, does she have Down syndrome?
I don't know.
I mean, that'd be crazy.
I'm just trying to ask some questions, brother.
So, anyway, that happens.
Yeah.
You only like XO, not XY.
That's important.
You know what I'm saying?
Hennessy.
Come on, bro.
This is just the regular?
It's the reg, man.
We wanted the XO.
That's fine.
You wanted the VSOP, the XO.
Yo.
They got me the little baby, man, the mid-version, bro.
Nah, that's crazy.
You're big on.
You're a big hack, bro.
You need that big fucking headness, dude.
So what ends up happening, I get in an argument with her.
You know what I'm saying?
Big Henny Marie.
I'm good.
She was fishing for you with that name, bro.
She was trying to suck you off.
Yeah, she probably was.
I don't know.
Yo, like, I escaped.
You know what I mean?
I never got caught up.
Yo.
You escaped?
Have you ever?
I ain't gonna lie.
I almost got caught up on the body.
There we go.
Talk to me.
I told you that before, though.
No, Nikki Minaj sent a barb at me.
One of the funniest things that you've ever said.
Nikki Minaj sent a barb.
They said I'm gay so many times.
I'm like, am I gay?
That was one of the funniest things ever.
I was about to link with somebody in LA, and like, literally, it's like from the corner of my peripheral as I held a phone at like a 260-degree angle.
I'm like, this is a nigga.
I mean, this is.
Yo, yo, yo.
Here's the thing, though.
Here's the thing.
Yo, come on, bro.
I fuck with this individual.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, I don't hate the person.
Henny Marie.
No, no, no.
This is the other person.
I'm just saying.
You know a lot of them.
The one Nikki Minaj sent it to you.
Yeah, no.
She's spying, dog.
That's me.
I'm just saying that, like, I personally believe if you're going to deal with a man who considers himself straight, you should tell him.
Be a friend.
You know what I mean?
So, anyway, let's get into the story.
What really happened?
Yeah.
And you can see yourself.
We go to the club.
Yeah.
Feel me?
Now, keep in mind, I'll be dealing with a lot of homie shit.
What does that mean exactly?
When I go out, all right.
So you're going to Atlanta, right?
Yeah.
How many people you bring it with you?
None.
See?
When I'm big act going out, the girlfriend going, the homies going.
It's a free trip for everybody.
Oh, really?
This is why I say the prize thing.
Because it's like, yo, nobody coming to work.
Everybody coming on free vacations.
Nobody spending bread.
Everybody staying the best places possible.
Act, got it.
Wow.
When you come out, I'm going to work.
Yeah.
If, you know, like, sometimes I work a lot and I'm exhausted.
I don't even want to go to the club.
But everybody look at me.
They think, like, you know, they're not in the industry.
So they look at it, like, you're not going to hit the club tonight?
You lame.
So fuck.
I'll go to the club.
For them.
You were going for them.
So if I go to the club for y'all, please don't act up.
That's all I'm saying.
So anyway, I'm in the club.
Burger boy was what's good there.
Burner boy ain't get there yet.
Who's Burger Boy?
Burner Boy.
Burger Boy.
Come on, bro.
Last last.
Fucking tech winner.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm from the four, but I love me a training.
That's what Lil Baby said.
Wait, wait, whoa, I didn't say Lil Baby.
That's the Schultz remix.
Yeah.
I didn't say Lil Baby.
Said it.
That's that Hetty Marie.
Shit, I got a remix of one of his songs.
Okay, go.
Come and put that Rico on me.
Wow.
We 7 today.
We 7 today.
You is a bad person.
Yo, come on, yo.
We go to the club.
Yo, Burger Boy look like he ain't even coming through.
Right.
For whatever reason.
Who's a burger boy, though?
I know a burger boy.
Come on.
There is a burger boy.
Is there a burger boy?
This is a hamburger.
It's in-out dude.
It's hamburger boy.
That's in and out, dude.
Yeah.
A little mascot.
Yeah, yeah.
Who's the little boy that's outside of Scottish?
Is that Burger Boy?
That was in fucking Million Dollars or whatever.
Austin Powers.
Austin Powers.
Big boy.
Bob's big boy.
Bob's big boy.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Also, great.
Awesome.
Come on.
Look him up.
But anyway, go on.
Enthusiastic derail.
I thought it was a burger boy.
This boy was some shit.
I'm in there.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not.
I'm not.
Go, What is Burner Boy doing?
Okay, no, he's not there.
So I'm in the club.
You got to remember the prize is in the building.
Check it out.
The prize is here.
Yo, somebody whispering in the DJ's ear.
Yeah.
I swear, every 23 seconds that DJ's like, yo, we got academics in here.
We got to.
To get you killed, bro.
Yeah, he really did.
That's fucked up.
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You don't even think about it.
I don't think you heard me.
Academics is in the building.
I don't think you heard me.
Yo, that's crazy.
He stopped DJ and he said, he just, ah, what you want to hear?
I'm like, nigga, ain't you the DJ?
The fuck?
I'm over here stealing.
No, that's crazy.
Women are walking up.
They want to take pictures, whatever, whatever.
I always, you know, obligate, come on, let's take pictures.
My girl's kind of hammering now because she was trying to drink with me.
You feel me?
So she's a little drunk.
She's starting to see girls.
You know when girls, they try to snuggle in, get their nice little picture phone up.
Were they throwing pussy in your thigh when they do that?
Sometimes they'll cross, they'll put their legs.
I'll keep it 100 a little bit.
I mean, sometimes they were trying to slide up.
Yo, hey, this is me on the gram.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
And also, these are just people who they probably do that for everybody who's popular.
Granted, my chick ain't one of the industry.
She's so like, she's never dealt with someone who, when she goes out with, she has to like kind of, oh, let people take pictures with her type of thing.
So she comes in on some Ray Lewis shit.
She Debo's a chick.
Trump sticks her.
What do you mean?
Like, I'm taking a picture.
I'm taking a picture with a chick.
Yo, I think she just had enough.
I think the girl also had her phone out.
Oh.
But you can see that it was Instagram open, not the camera thing.
Oh, no.
Boom.
Hits the chick.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm like, she just sacked her.
I'm looking at my chick like, you tweaking.
These are fans.
Black flag on the left.
No.
My chick looked like she wanted him to, she'll get physical.
You know what I mean?
Now, granted, she's intoxicated.
And you know, like, I don't want people to just kind of judge her because, like, we all deal with women and we know sometimes a woman gets.
Everybody's had a drunk moment, dude.
Come on.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that happens.
Even people around me are like, yo, you got to chill.
They're just taking pictures.
Yeah.
Okay.
We're leaving now because nobody goes to booby trap.
We're walking out of the shit.
So crazy.
We see like fake Drake.
I'm like, yo, this is before he gets knocked out by the other dude.
I'm like, yo, the fuck.
I'm like.
He got knocked out?
Yeah, anyway.
I'm like, Miami's just like, everyone's here.
Yeah.
We're walking out.
My girl dips off to go to the bathroom real quick.
I get to the little lobby where you see the video.
A girl comes up who was trying to talk to me before.
She's like, hey, blah, blah.
She showed me something on her phone.
My chick then pops out out of the bathroom.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yo.
What'll she show you on her phone?
Clip?
Under the hood, basically.
Did she go under the hood?
Did she?
Yeah.
No, be honest.
Hit my ride.
That's fine.
Slit it like that.
That was some cool shit with some cool boy.
Yo, what was it?
Nah, bro.
That was pussy, maybe.
Hey, listen, man.
Hey, I just got to take pictures with people.
Like, I know what this life comes from.
But it seems like she brought a picture up on her phone and maybe her clip was on it.
Yeah, show the burger boy.
Yeah.
It was the only thing she was trying to get.
She didn't really get to it yet.
Like, she was like scrolling.
But she wanted to give you the goods.
Leading you in.
Damn.
Yeah.
Anyway, my chick pop out of the bathroom.
It's one of those where she's like, this because she smelled it.
Bro, she looked like you ever watched WWE when Undertaker hops up all out of the casket?
Oh, no, no, dog.
No, she must have had a 100-meter start.
No, she went and boom, another sack, bro.
Fuck a sack.
I don't even, I mean, I haven't seen that girl since.
So we got to figure out.
She dead.
She probably in the multiverse.
She did.
CGE.
So now, and this is regular female stuff now.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm really concerned because I'm really trying to tell, like, you can't put your hands on other people.
Why?
Well, like, some of these women, like, again, they might just start fighting you because they're like, I know that's your boyfriend, but don't matter.
Don't matter.
Like, why are you doing that?
So, anyway, again, I want to put it out there.
She was intoxicated.
And, you know, I don't want to character overall.
Of course not.
I love this woman.
You love her, right?
So, you love her, bro.
That's your girl.
You love it, right?
My G.
So, so here's the thing what happened.
My G, you love her, right?
We love our girls.
You met her.
I knew her.
Why don't you talk about her?
Y'all want to hear the story or not?
I want to know if you're in love with your girl or not.
Nah, man, it's fine.
Like, I think we could squash her right now.
You can tell your girl how much you love her.
Are you thinking about marrying her or what's going on?
I don't do marriage.
I've been saying that.
Come on now.
No, no, we're not going to ask you something like that.
But in terms of like loving another human being, let me explain the part.
Then we can double back.
Okay, let's double back.
All right.
So that's what that video we watched earlier.
That's fine.
The way you enjoyed that video.
Would you let another man into the bedroom with your wife?
Say again?
I always ask white people this question.
I let another man in the bedroom with my wife?
No.
Yeah, but if you notice, there was no men in that video.
Yeah, that was actually two women.
That was lesbian porn.
Yeah.
Why?
Would you let another man in the bedroom with your wife?
Or no, you're the girl you like?
I call that lesbian porn.
Yeah, they're women.
Women.
You look in a sword fight.
And that was lesbian boy.
Oh, you think that just because a woman has a cock that that's not a woman?
Is that what you're doing?
No, no, no.
He's saying it's lesbian porn.
That's bigoted language.
Yeah.
No, if you can, you can be a woman with a beautiful fucking shaved dick.
I'm in the mud.
So I'm in the line.
You're pausing, dude.
Fast forward.
Hit the middle finger.
That's how you get a goochie.
That's how you get a gooch.
Oh, shit.
Come on, bro.
So, this is where the video starts.
Yeah, yeah.
Where's the video?
So my chick, she's mad at me now.
She's like, damn, you just a fucking hoe.
Like, you just always talking and chicks.
She's in my face, blah, blah, blah.
You know, she wanted them, again, she just truckstick two girls.
She's in my face now, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, but it's, it's nothing.
She's not hitting me.
But why do you think?
But she didn't think you were the prize hit.
Hold on, I'm going to tell you.
But she's touching this at third.
So here's what happened.
This is how the fight started.
This is not capturing cameras.
Yeah.
We came with other girls.
Oh, no.
Other girls are watching her like, damn, you're doing a little bit too much.
You know, people are a lot of people are watching.
When she gets to my face at that moment, for whatever reason, one of the girls with us swings on her because they're thinking.
One of the girls with you swings on your girl.
Yes.
They're thinking, he can't do anything.
You're embarrassing everybody.
I have to do something for him.
Also, they're probably looking like.
He's the prize.
I got to protect the prize.
You got to protect the prize, right?
Yo, those girls knew you were the fucking prize.
Facts.
And anyway, anyway, so can I be honest with you right now?
In that moment, because of the Casamigos and all the other stuff and the jealousy, it's almost as if your girl didn't know it.
That's possible.
No, no, no.
In that moment, I don't think she knew you were the prize, bro.
Well, that's what I'm trying to get.
So that's where the video starts.
I'm only really like even loud with her because I'm trying to tell her you can't fight.
Because I don't like embarrassing moments on camera like that.
I don't do those back into the fights.
You know what I mean?
That reminds me of Blue Face and Krishan Rock.
So I'm trying to tell her, I keep telling her, I'm like, yo, listen, I'm only going out for y'all.
I'm only doing all these dumb shit.
I don't want to be there.
You don't even want to be there, dude.
Please.
You were going to fight this chick.
Like, chill.
Like, let's just go home.
Let's go home.
She's looking like, well, a chicken.
You didn't even get to see the hamburger man.
Yeah.
You're right.
And you went there to see hamburger man, but you didn't even get to see him.
Whatever, man.
You didn't even get to see him.
And that's why you went there in the first place.
I didn't see him.
When he was walking in, all the women were in cuffs.
No way.
Yo, Miami police stood there and watched.
And I remember asking, because I'm like, yo, you know why I'm in the video?
Because I couldn't allow my girl to get jumped.
Because that girl who swung on her was with three or four girls.
You can't do it.
You love her, dude.
Yo, I talked to everybody about a situation.
I'm like, what should I do, right?
Like, granted, the shouting, you know, I'm off the liquor too.
But I'm like, if I, they're like, it doesn't make news if you walk away.
If I walk away, she gets beat down by three girls.
That's not cool, dude.
Right?
So if she gets beat down by three girls, yo, everybody just filming.
Yo, the police are filming.
They're like, this is crazy.
I even asked them after, I said, would you do anything?
They're like, yo.
It was like, we picked this assignment that we could watch drunk girls fight all the time.
I'm like, so they put everybody in cuffs.
They just asked everybody.
They asked all the girls, any other one of press charges?
Everybody said no.
And they're like, all right, go home.
Oh, wow.
And I was just like, even the cops was just like, no help.
How did you, you and your girl reconcile after that?
Because sometimes fights can be difficult.
Probably you told her how you felt about her.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Well, first of all, I don't like getting embarrassed in public like that.
I'm going to keep it real.
Also, I'm a black man in America.
So when that video came out at first, people wanted to believe it was me.
Oh, people were ready for you to be.
I saw the reaction, bro.
Bro, I saw that.
I was talking to Shadu.
I was talking to Shadu.
They posted it up directly the first time.
Son, you got that shit.
50,000 comments.
People were ready for you.
Yo, they were like, it was like when the queen died.
You know what I mean?
Like, people had all their memes on it.
Thank you.
And that's the conversation it was just having because, like, you know, again, she's a sweet girl.
Is there anything you regret about it?
Of course.
Like, you know, granted, in that moment, because of how louder, like, these are women try to fight.
I can't put my hands on nobody, so I got loud.
That's where I'm a prize thing came from.
But obviously.
But that really stopped it, though.
Nah, they still try to jump around.
Really?
I've tried that with my wife since.
It didn't work really well.
Your wife violated?
No, but like when she would be disagreeing with me about a thing, and I would just say, use it then.
You can't use it then.
When is a good time?
I'm going to tell you when.
Say you go to Atlanta to work.
Yeah.
Right?
You bring her with Atlanta.
With Atlanta.
I keep trying to tell these people I deal with is like, y'all are just happy because by just proximity, y'all are being around other celebrities.
It's always worked for me.
I'm not hanging with these niggas.
I'm going to work.
Well, that night you did want to see a hamburgler.
You did that night, right?
Yo, Burner Boy gonna beat your ass.
No, no, this is no disrespect.
Who is Burner Boy?
I used to know that.
Burner Boy, he's one of the top three.
The hottest Afrobeats artists.
Can you sing the song?
Afrobeat artists.
We all last.
Last, last.
And everybody let up to breakfast.
I think breakfast is in it.
It's a hamburger hell for breakfast.
That shit is fire.
I ain't gonna lie.
This is no disrespect to Burner Boy.
Where does Burner Boy live?
Nigeria, Lagos.
Oh, all right.
Well, then.
That's a rule, Congo.
Say again?
That's the real Wakanda.
That's the real Wakanda.
Yeah, for real.
Is that real?
Lagos, Nigeria.
Yeah.
That's where I feel like, you know.
Shout out to Lagos, bro.
So, but you know what?
I'm saying with the prize thing.
If you bring your woman to a work event, and say you're there among peers, in any capacity, it could even be like just a dinner.
And all of a sudden, she's throwing drinks, pulling here.
You're going to look at her like, yo, baby, like you, you got to know when to chill.
Like, you're fucking up shit that is kind of facilitating our lifestyle.
Ah, yeah, she's interrupting the bag.
Don't fuck up the shit that you're going to benefit from.
Yeah, she's fucking up the bag.
Because now, if I'm on the shady room and say, I say everybody just believe, whatever, whatever, I'm all the way canceled.
Yeah.
I'm going to be on 42nd Street with you.
Both homeless.
Like, whoa.
Don't fuck up the bag.
But you would never let your girl do that.
You love her too much.
Well, to be on 42nd Street.
If I'm on there too.
Yeah, but no one's going to pay for your, you know, what you have.
You know?
What do you mean?
Like, I don't think, like, what do you mean by 42nd Street?
Oh, no, You're talking about prostitution.
No, I'm talking about being homeless.
No, he's going to be selling bags.
42nd Street was where the prostitute was going to be.
91, dog.
I'm from New York.
This is what we're doing.
Okay.
Homeless.
Okay.
Okay, good.
I just wanted to clarify.
So really, that's all what it was.
It's like, you know, and I ain't gonna lie to you.
I had to go to an internal like check of everybody with me.
No more free vacations, man.
Everybody was having a good, like, it was great.
Wow.
When I went to Miami, I'm booking 10 tickets, man.
Come on, everybody.
Come on.
You come on.
But now, why?
Because they didn't step in for you right there and then you needed them.
Well, no, it's not even that.
It's just that that's one of the incidents that, you know, everyone saw, which that's costly, clearly.
Yeah.
But like, there's other incidents where, and I remember like just explaining to people, you know, like they're not going to talk about you.
They're going to say, me.
They're going to say, I did something.
Yeah.
So you did something, but you're with me.
But you're clearly, you're not looking out for the situation that's facilitating the lifestyle right now.
And that's the reason why, like, you know, you know, again, I'm a prize shit sounds funny.
It was a funny moment when I was drunk, right?
But that's a microcosm of what usually every rapper later explains when they say, why did you stop rolling with everybody from your hood and you only roll with security?
Right now, I only like I rather go alone than even with the homies.
Wow.
Like, nah, I'll see y'all when I get back.
Because y'all have ulterior motives.
Y'all not focused on anything.
And if anything, you're going to be a distraction.
So if I'm going to go somewhere, I'm just not going to be.
You wouldn't have even been at that club if your friends didn't make you go.
And put like this: rather than paying for $4,000 to $5,000 to bring other people with me that we could, because I don't deal with the industry.
I have real friends.
So I want to have fun with them.
I just don't want to have fun.
But now it's to the point is like, bro, just hire your security and just move along.
All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second.
What do you think is the wildest rumor about you right now?
They're all a lot, bro.
I mean, I think they're all wild just because most of them ain't true.
What is the wildest one that's not true?
Did you get a stripper pregnant?
I heard her escort.
You heard that?
Yeah.
That's a reticent.
That sounds true the way you're reacting.
That is kind of...
Hold on.
Did you hit a Roe V wave?
No, no.
Did you?
A little bubble?
No.
Did you?
Did you catch a body, bro?
Did you?
That never happened.
But wait, did you?
Did you?
No, no, that never happened.
Yo, usually, and my body, my choice.
Yeah.
A little bit.
But I've really taken out a little baby.
That's what I'm saying.
Did you?
No, no, no.
Second time you could take.
Oh, you thought I was trying to get rid of a little baby?
No, bro, man.
No, honestly, I've learned and I've gotten to realize I used to like before I got to a position of success and popularity.
Yeah.
I used to look at rappers or any celebrity and be like, why don't they just fuck with like some regular girl?
Why do they keep fucking with the same girls?
Because and you get to realize, at least in my experience, and it's taking me a while to get there.
Usually when you deal with these regular women, right?
They if it's gonna be a mutual, you know, like whatever for whatever amount of time They're going to do things that because it this is their only chance of fame.
Oh, so they're gonna use you for fame.
So you're gonna try to exploit you.
They're gonna pretend that you got her pregnant.
I'll tell you where I heard the whole I got an escort pregnant.
I've never even dealt with escort period.
You ever paid for pussy?
No, I've never.
Are you a girl?
No, no, no.
I'll pay for pussy for my homies.
No, but you never paid for pussy for you.
Not even that.
I'll get hard.
I swear.
I swear I wouldn't get hard.
Like, my dick got to feel like you into it, bro.
I mean, you could get gossip too.
It's not bigger girls.
Exploiting Fame For Pussy00:13:50
Bigger acts.
You got to feel like you went into it.
Really?
Yes.
I'm sorry.
But the professionals know how to make you feel that.
No, no, no.
But if once I pay, my brain releases some type of fucking thing to let my bigger act know, nah, never do.
Nah, it's good.
That's why when I'm in a club, like maybe someone else paid for it for me.
I don't know.
But I've never really had sex with you.
Come on.
So I'm serious.
I'm serious.
I'm serious.
Come on, son.
No, I'm serious.
I've never paid for any woman to have sex with me.
I couldn't get hard, bro.
I'm telling you.
I couldn't.
Wow, you say the exact same thing.
I couldn't.
Yo, I don't.
Hold on.
No, no, come on.
I'll say the exact same thing as you, but he's saying it's not capable for you.
Yo, why?
You never paid for pussy?
It's more likely you would than not.
Bro, brother, brother, I'm a big act, nigga.
Like, literally.
Hold on.
I'm surprised.
Yo, come on, son.
Sorry to tell him, but I'm like, yo, listen.
What about Selena?
You thought I paid?
Son, she came up around the time she was dealing with you.
I'm just saying.
Whoa.
Okay, son.
Selena, who?
Selena who?
About the Mexican girl?
Well, here's the thing, though.
Gomez.
Why would you think I would pay when you're saying?
Did you smash Selena Gomez?
I think he did, dog.
Did I?
Son.
There's no way.
Did I?
I don't know.
I don't, yeah.
Is that what he told me?
Wait, which Selena are you talking about?
It might be both of them.
Which Selena?
Which Selena?
You want to go into it?
Yo, no, okay.
He told me.
There's no way you fuck Selena Gomez.
There's no way.
I can see it.
I can see it.
Around about that time she got that kidney transplant.
I can see you sliding in there.
Oh, shit.
You bruised it up.
Straight off my head.
Did you go deep on that Disney princess?
What did you get a bigger act, man?
Yo.
Bigger act.
Yo.
Would you do a damage for real on Justin Bieber's ex?
I don't know.
That's disrespect, bro.
Nah, see, I wouldn't even.
That's disrespect for the beeps, man.
I don't mess with people's ex.
I don't like that.
Yo, that's what's up.
That's what's up.
You know what I mean?
You have to fucking somebody, X. Hold on.
Well, if I know you publicly and that was your girl, like, nah, nah, I can't.
Yeah, yeah, that's.
I can't.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And also, I feel like I would be getting back at you.
Like, now, like.
That's an ego thing.
You're saying there's some ego involved there.
But, okay, so, wow, I can't believe you saw Selena Gomez, dude.
Like, he's talking about Selena Powell, but you got to realize how.
Like, you don't, I'm trying to explain it the most.
She's a prostitute.
Did you have sex with her?
She's a chick who got popped.
She was like the new superhead.
She fucked a lot of rappers.
Ah.
Okay.
So back in like 2016.
She was like Adam's pod?
Yeah, Back in 2016, she got popular.
Yeah, right.
With the other girl who was wild.
Oh, yeah, she sucked off seven sons player, bro.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Yo, she sent them niggas to the finals.
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Yo, you know, you know, he said he had the magic stick.
She had the magic lips.
For real?
Shit.
She got stuck off the Lakers.
She got it.
Yeah, that's 0-5.
Them niggas suck with 1-5.
With their 1-5.
Oh, that's right.
They just won.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
So you had sex with Selena Powell?
Yeah.
How was it, though?
It was cool.
Actually, it was probably better than I thought it was going to be.
But honestly, yo, play this.
Is the first time I was with a woman, yo, she was just mad aggressive, bro.
Like, the first time I met her, yo, she literally just, like, what you see online is what she was.
For example, like, she was just trying to pull my dick out, brother.
Like, where?
So I picked her up and we went by like this place that I had an apartment.
Yeah.
Because we're about to go out later on.
And we just chilling.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, yo, I'm just trying to talk to her.
And she was like, fuck all that.
Like, let's fuck.
I'm like, what?
I feel like a hoe.
But anyway, you know, the point where I was trying to say to you was like, why would I need to get her in that situation?
I'm really cool with her, too.
I'm really cool with her.
By the way, she's going through a lot of issues.
And that's why I like.
She's arrested or something like that?
Yeah.
She's free now.
I don't talk about her in a derogative manner just because she swallowed your kids.
I became really good friends with her.
So like, before that happened, I became really good friends with her.
And like, I started seeing there was some trauma behind her, too.
Oh, you think?
And anytime.
Wow.
God.
Well, you must have 20-20 visitors.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
There's some trauma behind her.
Holy shit.
Yo, if you believe the new mantra about women, my body, my choice, you shouldn't assume, right?
You shouldn't assume that if a woman fucks 39 niggas in a month, that they have trauma.
But it's a safe assumption.
I assume.
It's a safe assumption.
That's how you get canceled, brother.
You slush shit right there.
Well, that's what they say online, bro.
You're assuming for guys too?
A little bit.
Get a little fresh and fit on these bitches.
Get a little fresher fit on them.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was going to bail you out because you say yes, and then it's like, all right, we're going to ask her.
It's all good, bro.
You got that, bro.
You're the prize, man.
Listen.
Yeah, a little bit.
I think, like, you really think I'll be paying for pussy, buddy?
How much is it?
How much do you have to pay?
I never paid for pussy.
Hold on.
I'm going to reason.
The Miami chicks, yeah, I be hanging around.
Those are all OnlyFans girls.
Those are pros, bro.
Come on.
Okay, okay.
I'm glad you said that.
So, yeah, I am glad.
We're all glad.
So, so you tell me what you consider paying.
Did you guys make out?
Wait, hold on, hold on.
Let me just say that.
It sounds like you're about to say you paid for pussy hits.
Was she a good kisser?
No, because.
Hey, hey, was she a good kisser?
No, I've never kissed her.
I ain't gonna lie.
Wait, What about when you guys were intimate and having sex?
Missionary.
Brother, she fucked too many rappers.
I couldn't kiss her, but I'm sorry.
Did you want to discuss the top?
Did you go on top?
Nah, she hit it from the back.
Bro, I ain't trying to disrespect her.
I love guys.
Did she have little booty all heirs?
I was checking that that deep.
Did she not let you?
What do you mean that deep?
It's right there.
It just opens up and then just looks at you.
It's like Ernie's hair.
Not into it.
You never looked out Sesame Street.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
I just want to address this point real quick, bro.
Address it, bro.
Address them booty hair.
No, this is the OnlyFans woman.
Yo, no disrespect.
No disrespect.
A woman who has OnlyFans is probably the easiest to fuck.
And of course, you're not going to, you're probably not going to pay them.
You know why?
I'll tell you why.
Why?
If you're somebody with status, bro, they want to come around just to try to gain some type of clout or some type.
Yo, these women, most of what they do to not because a woman is sucking and fucking means she's making money.
Oh.
The way how they get money is like they have to increase their social status.
So of course.
So they don't want to fuck Andrew.
So, if Andrew is in Miami, like if Andrew DMs a girl from OnlyFans.
No, no, I'm not DMs.
So, don't put it out there right now.
I'm not DMing no girls.
I'm DMing.
Sorry, all right.
I'm acting.
I'm gonna DM a girl from OnlyFans.
I'm gonna let yo, my boy Andrew is here.
They're gonna look at Andrew's profile.
But I'm not clapping cheeks.
Yo, my boy, how many followers are you on the gram?
Say again.
How many followers do you have on the gram?
How long?
Two.
Little two mil?
2.2 or something.
Pussy wet already.
Pussy's wet.
Pussies are wet from that?
Nigga.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I swear, I don't even DM ticks off my main page.
I didn't know if the backup.
Well, you got that.
You got that cool like 750 or something back up.
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
They don't even get the money.
So hold on.
So now they.
Oh, that's exciting.
Yo, so now they're looking at it.
They say Andrew Schultz hit me up.
2 mil.
I'll see why he's popular.
Oh, shit.
Sold out show?
Oh, no.
Netflix special?
Oh, no.
Holy sh.
Yo, I'm telling you, it might be a tsunami at that point.
Like, really?
Fuck the dams.
Like, it's a flood.
You think they're splitting lips like that?
Yes.
One hand split.
Yes.
That's fucking crazy.
That's fucked up.
So that's what I was saying.
How do I feel about TikTok followings?
What?
I'll cost a mil on TikTok.
Oh, he's sucking niggas off of TikTok.
What about me?
I got 60,000 on Instagram.
Not 60,000 ain't gonna do it.
Come on, come on.
I get a discount.
I can get a discount, 20% off.
Do you have a blue check?
No, no, no, I don't.
We gotta get you a whole check.
I'll give you the game.
That's what I used to tell my boys, right?
I say, yo, if you're not the guy, so that's what I'm saying.
Like, these girls gonna want to, first of all, they've seen a girl who's fucked with me get super popular, was making damn near a million a month off.
Only fans.
You know what they're thinking.
Who's that's?
Who's that?
The Selena Power girl?
Oh, who made her get all that money?
He's the prize dog.
Hold on, yo.
When I was first cool with her yeah, and she was just with me just we would just be on twitch, like I would.
Just she would just kind of like call in um bro, she was, she was living in the trailer park.
You know what I mean?
This was for only fans.
Yeah, the roaches are rats in that bitch.
No, not rats, not rats.
I didn't try to tweak on her, but it's roaches.
You know what i'm saying though, hold on.
I'm not shitting on her though, because now she's really.
How much would that cost?
Well, I went to what coast?
Well, she shit on her trip to Dubai maybe.
I'm just saying maybe that's on the menu, maybe it's not on the menu, I don't know.
I don't know she does that before, but I love she does that.
I'm just trying to give y'all the game.
Yeah yeah, any of the game.
It's the game on when you're dealing with women who are pursuing a certain type of lifestyle.
But if you're an only fans girl, if you're only fans girl, it wouldn't make sense.
If you're just random dudes from your block, if you want to make money, you're going to try to influencers you would love to fuck like.
If you're a woman, try to fuck some like Adam 22 he has a lot of followers.
Like you're gonna get your like they're trying to make money.
You get what I mean.
So they might look at it like oh, like oh.
I helped Selena get to this point.
I'm just gonna with him.
That shit I might around is start making more than.
Like the way clothing companies are saying clothes to celebrities for free, because if they're seen with your stuff, you're saying so.
So essentially, that's really how it works and that's why, like it's, It's a celebrity economy down there.
You know what I mean?
It's a celebrity economy.
So I tell my homies when we go out, I say, yo, y'all, or my manager.
I used to, well, I don't even want to tell them that no more because they might do some shit embarrassing.
I used to tell everybody, you meet a girl, they're going to look at your gram.
That's what they do.
$60,000 ain't going to cut it.
Come on.
But $60,000, and I'm academics manager.
Oh, can I be academics manager?
Oh, yeah.
You put it in your bio.
I just tell them, throw it in the bio.
Yeah, thank you.
Axe.
I appreciate it.
I said, throw it in the bio.
When you're talking to them, yo, yeah, I'm his manager.
I set this all up.
You ain't, I mean, all this millions coming in, like, yeah, that's, that's me.
I can't make that happen.
Yeah, I can do that.
Some of the girls, they're like, yeah, I don't want to fuck anyway.
I'll fuck you because you're the guy behind that.
Yes.
Why wouldn't they want to fuck you?
That's crazy to me.
For whatever reason.
Hey, listen, maybe this knew somebody else.
Maybe I'm, who cares?
How do you get girls to give you blowjobs?
Yo, yo.
You know what's so funny?
Yo.
No, for real, man.
Andrew Acton.
You know.
No.
You know the secrets.
No, no.
You don't know the secrets, bro.
Come on, dude.
Yo, I'm serious, bro.
You hang out with cool guys like Rui Tona Loso or whatever his name is.
What is the goddamn name?
Nah, that nigga's a turn.
Yo, but you know these guys.
I do not have to do that.
They know the secrets to get in your blowjobs.
I only explained to him because I can't do it.
I don't know that, though.
Like in LA, like in LA.
Yo, every big city you go in, it's a celebrity economy where like women are trying to fuck with dudes with status or dudes who they think that no one's gonna be like, oh, I'm gonna pay, unless they're celebrity girls.
Like some of these celebrity like chicks from, I don't want to call certain clubs in New York, but you see them on the gram all the time.
They already have a name.
They just want money.
But you know what?
You know what they say?
Well, that you don't pay them to have sex.
You pay them to swallow.
Really?
That's not the saying.
What is the saying?
Pay them to leave.
You pay them to leave.
But that's how it works.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Well, what if you don't want them to leave?
What did you?
Hang out and play some video games.
What did you pay them for?
Say again?
What'd you ever pay for?
I've only had sex with one girl for money.
Damn.
Yeah.
How was that?
It was in the Ukraine.
Ukrainian?
She said, given?
Well, no, I also had sex with a girl for no money.
But this was one for money because she had white areolas.
And I thought that was really interesting and unique.
How did you find out she had white areolas before you coughed up the cash app, brother?
Well, she was at a strip club.
I got checked the car.
She's got white areolas.
Yeah, yeah.
Damn.
And I was like, Royal, didn't you?
Say again?
You a dirty nigga man.
You probably didn't roll.
I had to go to five different ATMs because there was no money left.
The country was at the moment.
I went up five ATMs.
Oh, the ATMs.
She was walked around by Boris to five different ATMs.
Bro, you didn't lose your boner?
Say again?
You ain't lose your boner?
No.
That's how he was leaving?
I give the gad back.
Not losing my boners.
Listen, even when I'm watching porn, somebody fucks up like when I'm shooting.
She wants to have sex with the 50th tab trying to get to the right shit.
If somebody, if, if, if the doorbell rings, if the doorbell rings.
Did we get to it?
Did we get to your 50th tab right away?
Did we get to your 50th tab right away?
I've never even seen that on the site.
Stop it, bro.
I've never seen it.
Stop it, bro.
Stop it, bro.
You watch like those type of lessons.
You got to lesbian porn?
No, no, no.
You watch.
Hold on, no.
We're going to be descriptive.
You watch, you watch transgender porn.
No, I don't.
You seem like you're enjoying that, though.
Those weren't trans.
What were the?
Those were women, dude.
But you said they had penises.
No.
Come on, dude.
Don't be silly.
Those are Congolese jumbo clips.
You said.
Congolese.
Yo.
Come on.
Come on, dude.
Stop playing, bro.
You got to be more cultured, dude.
You got to be more cultured, bro.
You got to be more cultured, bro.
Being More Cultured Bro00:13:11
When are you going to like really...
Hey, listen.
February.
February.
No, I'm talking about what I'm saying.
That was the question that I was going to.
You were going to ask a question?
The answer is February.
No, no, no.
What were you going to say?
I feel like, when am I going to start celebrating Black History Month?
January for me.
Oh, you celebrate about early life, bro.
Damn, bro.
That's actually disrespect to Blacksmith.
You got to celebrate a little bit.
March, you got to see what happened.
You can celebrate it early.
That's on black light.
You know what I mean?
Yo.
Yo, I feel like you should be doing like some like Jon Stewart late night shit, man.
Like that whole turn-your-foot shit.
I just, I love, yo, I was, I commented on some shit and didn't release it.
I'm like, damn, this shit is so fucking good because it's all about delivery, bro.
Respect.
Your delivery is just bang, bang, bang.
Like, I'm still laughing.
Like, I gotta pause and go back type shit.
Respect.
Like, you know what I mean?
And I'm like, that probably is just too much work because you're too much work to do it every day.
There's too much work to do it every day.
We could do once a week.
We do one episode a week.
The problem with the daily show is it's every day.
Oh, yeah.
And that shit, there ain't enough things to care about every day.
That's how I feel about it.
I could care about one thing enough a week.
But the reason why the show sucks is because they got a fake care about politics every day.
True.
When most of it doesn't fucking matter, it's not going to change anything.
But we could do one issue a week or one thing.
That's why John Oliver's show kills.
That's why when we were doing it, it killed.
So if it was a once-a-week thing, I think that we could.
I think he was going to get Trevor Noah's job.
No, I have no interest.
I would only do it once a week and I would have to put the entire thing on YouTube.
I would have to hire my entire staff, and they couldn't tell me one edit note.
That was the only things.
And $30 million a year.
God damn.
How much you making now?
Not a lot.
$31 million a year.
Not a lot.
Yeah.
I'm not a big act like you, bro.
He's like a second place prize.
No, no, no.
I'm not the prize.
I'm a ribbon.
Yo, I walked into the honorable mentality.
I walked into that Radio City Music Hall show and I was like, damn, this dude is way bigger than any of us.
I did okay.
I did on camera.
Just because, again, let me tell you, the you know, talking to an audience every day, and sometimes like you might see yourself go viral.
And, you know, I see myself all over the internet, but it's diff yo.
When I walked into that fucking venue, I'm like, fuck.
Yeah, it's crazy.
That's the guy.
That's crazy.
You know what I mean?
I felt crazy walking into it.
I'm not going to lie.
It was, it was.
What was your big show before then?
That was the biggest venue that I performed at.
You've done, that was like 6,000.
We did it twice.
Twice.
So 12,000.
You've done like 4,000 though.
2,000, 3,000.
Most vent, that's the biggest indoor theater in the world.
So most, usually after a theater, it goes to arena.
So like arenas are like 12.
So like Madison Square Garden, if you perform on the side, is 12.
If you perform in the middle, it's like 18.
So the goal is Madison Square Guard for the next tour.
Well, I was so impressed by that.
And I'm telling you, man, I'm still like just at that point of just kind of, I'm trying to get off of the internet into real life.
That's the thing.
I know we saw that.
You had the bug.
I was like, I need to get on the stage and do something.
Yeah, but I love coming out to live shit, man, because like I like to see, again, I think we're all gladiators at what we do.
And I've seen you on that stage.
I'm like, you're a gladiator.
I want to come see your show because I'm like, yo, I see how you're fucking seamlessly doing all this.
I'm going to do it in real life.
Can I tell you something real quick?
But I'm going to bleep this out from the episode.
But the next tour, really?
Yeah.
That's fire.
Yeah.
That's fire.
Shit.
But like, the internet has like so widened.
Yeah.
And I've seen like so many people like, you know, me and him just had like a debate.
This guy, like, his name's like Hassanabi.
Yeah.
And like, he has love Hassan.
Yo, he has so many people that watch him.
Yeah.
And I don't, I think we're in a bubble where we don't necessarily need to go outside in the sense of to do these live events.
Yeah.
But, like, there's, there's, as you said, there's that bug.
I want to do it, man.
Yeah.
Why not try it?
Why not try to find a way to like do what you do?
Let it fly.
You have to fly.
You have to fail.
When you first started screaming, streaming, I'm sure it wasn't good right away.
But you found your thing.
He said, Yeah, well, no, it did flop.
Yeah.
There's no one there, but I had no expectations.
And you still are going to have bad streams or bad shows or whatever.
I'll try to tell friends when they're coming, like, yo, if Steph Curry can have an off-night shooting, I can damn sure have an off-night doing comedy.
There's a way to do your show, a live stream live.
Yeah.
There's a way to do it.
Be honest with me.
The love or like when you guys walk off the set from doing this podcast and when you walk off the stage, is it even the same comparable feeling?
They're completely different.
I feel like there's like the next level of the euphoria that I feel like a performer tries to get is it has to be live.
Yeah, but you're way more self-critical of the live show.
You're the only one giving.
Whereas here, like, Andrew's making me laugh, Arkash is making me laugh.
Like, it's all interconnected.
You know what I mean?
Yo, I got a thing going on here, man.
We're going to go sign, man.
We're going to.
I think those bags are done.
I think those bags are done.
You think so?
I think you might have got the last one.
Nah, Gideon Wilder just got some disgusting shit.
Did they really?
Yeah.
Get out of here.
Good for them, dude.
Good for them for real.
Or large dudes who fucked with them.
Oh, that's different.
Yeah.
No, no.
I'm in the bag.
That's different.
I'm talking about the bag, like the Rogan Spotify bag.
I don't think so.
Well, I think that they were basically buying out, what is it called?
They're buying market share.
So they're overpaying to enter a market.
And I think that's what was happening.
And I think that now that people know that Spotify is a place you can listen to podcasts on and music, they don't have to pay as much.
It's like what happened with Netflix.
Netflix was overpaying for specials.
They're paying $20 million for here.
I don't think it's overpaying Dave Chappelle $20 million.
I think he could charge even more.
Are they ever paying for specials?
They're probably still doing it.
Now they're paying quarter million.
Oh, so they count nothing.
Yeah.
Really?
But they'll pay the big guys big money.
A few people.
A few people will make 80 or 90% of the money.
They have to stay relevant.
Look at this way.
A few people will make some money, not as much money as they could make doing it on their own.
One possibility.
Really?
Is Spotify publicly traded?
I assume it is.
You might need to make a splash every once in a while, the same way Netflix will to keep your stock price afloat because stagnation is enough to make a stock price go down.
The perception of stagnation is stock's not worth it.
That's true.
That's a good point.
I think Netflix stopped giving up bags and started flooding it with kind of mediocre content.
And that's why the stock price fucking tanked.
They also didn't meet subscribers and they were losing.
I think that was, yeah, because a lot of Netflix originals were not amazing.
I think, yeah, the ultimate thing for the streaming company.
I'm going to be on one next year.
Say what?
I'm going to be on one next year.
Yeah, so shout out Netflix.
But yeah, I think the ultimate thing.
Yeah, she's in a.
He's still firing me, though.
What are you going to do?
My boy, man.
Y'all are winning, man.
Yeah, we're doing okay.
We're doing okay.
And motherfucking big and eye shows.
Yeah, you got to.
You just got to throw big in front of your name, man.
It makes people look at you differently.
Really?
Can I be big at?
We're not big at because he's big ass.
I'm actually AK.
Big R.
And that works out.
That's the racist terminal universe of the Bodega.
Yo, yo, you do that, they start putting a little bit more fucking respect on you.
Not respect, but fucking respect.
Really, you need to be a little bit more.
I need fucking respect.
I'm telling you.
Yo, the transformation, people don't realize.
They used to be like, oh, well, you take it for granted.
The moment I jumped out as big act, I ain't gonna lie.
So would you consider yourself trans then?
You did.
Trans successful.
Oh, can I ask you a serious question?
Let's go.
Are you jealous of Steve Will Dewitt's relationship with 6ix9ine now?
Nah.
Do you feel replaced at all?
No, Yo, I'm happy for, I'm happy.
Like, to me, it's interesting, right?
Because I look at 6ix9ine.
I feel like he's giving up on rap.
You know what I mean?
And Steve Will Dewitt controls that YouTube.
YouTube, but like, you know.
young white kids demographic.
And I think the great thing about 6ix9ine, which people always said in rap, he could seamlessly go from being hood to being like, yo, the dudes in Ohio, we're about to like, you know what I mean?
One of those.
And I think he's kind of going there.
Bro, I was watching a clip, bro.
They were on, it was, I think, the Rumble show with the Tate brothers.
You fuck with Tate, don't you?
I don't know him personally.
I messaged him a bunch.
Really?
Yeah, we were talking before because we were thinking about interviewing him.
You don't have to go to Romania, man.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's like taking a trip to the Mecca.
Oh, he is Muslim now.
So there you go.
He converted.
100%.
So, so what's it called?
So, yeah, so I'm watching the Tate brothers have this, I guess, Rumble show, and then Steve will do it a 6ix9ine out of there.
And the Tate brothers are trying to talk about like the misperceptions of misogyny and all this other shit.
And they're doing some ideological shit.
6ix9ine was so drunk, bro, and he's just like hugging Steve will do it.
And then the Tate brothers are trying to be like, listen, it's unfair for a man to be treated in the way.
He was like, whatever, man.
So, bro, it is an amazing clip.
It's hard to be serious around someone being silly.
No, no, I think my boy going through it right now.
He just got out of a four-year relationship.
Who?
6ix9ine.
Oh, he's no longer with that girl.
He and this girl just announced she's on OnlyFans, man.
You know what the pain feels?
No, no.
Yo, you break up with her today, tomorrow.
She got lipstick written on her ass.
Cheese told my yo, catch me on OnlyFans.
No.
Hurts.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, he bouncing back right now.
No, what's her?
That's just the IPO kind of.
You know what I mean?
Nah, it just went public.
Nah, that shit hurts.
No, that shit.
It's fucked up, man.
How is he doing, though?
Man, I think with him.
He was one of the most entertaining people on the planet, man.
I don't even know that.
What, I mean, I feel a little disappointed by him, but like, we talk about it.
Do you want more music from him or are you disappointed that he's kind of like removed himself from public life?
No, he's not removed from public life.
He's just removed from the cultural conversation.
So in rap.
Yeah.
So he's not, like, you could probably say he's not a musician at the moment.
Right.
Right.
But you'll see him on a lot of Steve Will Dewitt videos, which he's still a creator because he's creating content.
But it's just that, you know, that's not the stuff.
And I think he's starting to realize you can't be 6'9 off YouTube.
You have to be 6'9 in music and culture.
Well, what do you mean by that?
You can't be explosive and control conversations.
Like, conversation starts in the culture, then trickle elsewhere.
The reason why Steve Will Dewitt wanted to meet you is because you were a phenomenon in rap.
You were a figure and somebody who people were marveling at.
You can't do that on YouTube, just doing vlogs.
That ain't gonna happen.
You know what I mean?
But I think, you know.
That's interesting.
He's gotten to the point, though, which I think this is an interesting point.
He could always make, like, he just went to Russia, picked up $350,000 to perform old songs.
Somebody paid him $100,000 just to play FIFA with him, just because he's a spectacle still.
So he won't go broke.
Well, that will dry up.
Eventually that will.
Yeah, that does dry up.
Why are they not streaming for him?
Is that a dumb idea?
Because it seems like he's so good at engaging.
He's streaming.
Yeah.
Y'all can collaborate, make some crazy shit together.
Because the last couple times he came out didn't really hit.
No.
But it's his label.
You crying, son?
What do you mean?
No, it's a label.
Hey, yo.
Hey, yo, Joe.
No, no, it's a label.
That was crazy, bro.
Come on, man.
You got it.
Yo, that is crazy.
Why are you going to believe in pause?
Shut up, Don Day, though.
Come on, son.
Why do you have to believe?
Hey, no, no.
I'm going to tell you why.
Why'd you say throat around us like that?
That's crazy.
The thing with 6ix9ine is that his label.
Say that shit on top of your shoulders.
You know what I'm saying?
So he's not getting playlists.
He won't get playlisted.
And they're looking at him like, make it hot.
Why can't his label do get him on playlist?
Blackball.
Can you explain Blackball?
So, I mean, because I heard Tori, Tori talking about this.
Yeah, Tori is Blackball.
Nobody's going to really talk about like how I do.
Also, did Tori shoot Megan?
Shit, I don't know.
Why isn't he in jail if he did?
I'm like, so how's he going to start?
Oh, is he?
He slapped a rapper.
He slapped him for listening.
Oh, yeah, August.
Oh, yeah, August.
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Okay, look, you made a really astute observation before we had to go pee about 6ix9ine and about.
I'm out a week, man.
Son, but we're not out here streaming like you.
We're streaming otherwise.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Okay, but I want to get to this.
I want to get to this.
I want to get to this because you made an interesting point, which is like, the way that 6ix9ine could affect culture through music and the music culture itself.
So if it wasn't just putting out music, it was like antagonizing these artists.
He's not able to do the same thing through YouTube for some reason.
Why is that?
Hey, listen, music is just so much more powerful than...
But there are people who can affect culture through YouTube.
That's just their platform.
Wait, wait.
Joe Rogan.
Okay.
This show comes out on YouTube.
Okay, but Joe Rogan is of a different play.
6ix9ine as a vlogger is not 6'9 as a rapper, which means he won't demand the same crowd, the same audience.
I see.
There's not as much desire to see him in the music as there is to see him talk shit to rappers.
Yeah, no.
So music is just completely different.
It's the reason why usually when a rapper gets at me, I got to go 10 times as hard as him because, you know, for example, let's get back to Lil Baby.
He dissed me on a song or two songs that's on an album that's going to be probably streamed, if you look at the stats, 200 million times.
So you got to go every single day.
You get what I mean?
Like the amplification and also he said it.
He's only said a line.
I got to do like a five-hour live stream breaking him down.
And that line is going to be so memorable.
It's going to stick in culture.
You know what I mean?
It's going to be mean words.
This is interesting.
So this is why you feel like you got to go so hard because it's the only way to combat the stickiness of music.
But that's why I look at, you know, as an artist.
You just have the club vibe and all of a sudden a line, diss and act comes on.
So that happens back to back.
You have Footlocker.
Yeah, back to back, exactly.
Is a popular diss track.
So now you just at a restaurant, you're at fucking Chipotle or whatever, and then all of a sudden there's a bar dissing you.
I see why you have to return the energy in such a wild way.
And then that's why I look at 6ix9ine.
I'm like, well, you know, there's always two ways to, you know, make money.
You could live off the past or you could keep forging the way.
Until he returns to music, he's living off the past.
I don't care what he does content-wise.
That's interesting.
He'll never make any big splash in the vlogging world that he because what he did in music was unique and new.
Yeah, so he has to do something unique and new in the vlogging world because you're saying right now what he's just living off of is, hey, I was that artist that's now vlogging.
Yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, go ahead.
I would say for 6ix9ine, I don't know any 6ix9ine, the name of a 6ix9ine song, but I know 6ix9ine, and part of it was he was beefing with rappers, which seems like, to lands like me, such a high-stakes game.
Like, you're playing with your life.
You're bragging about snitching.
That's why I go back and forth.
Yo, there's some YouTubers who call me out recently.
I think I had them on here.
Who?
Two niggas at ABBA and Preach.
I love ABBA and Preach.
I'm like, yo, listen, I wish our brothers the best, but I ain't got time.
Kanye just mentioned me.
Lil Baby just dismailed this album.
I'm going to get to y'all.
That's like a two-day beef.
This shit for the last one.
That's how the population looks like.
You got to watch their stuff, though.
They're excellent.
No, yeah.
Like, damn.
They're not like you.
Like, they're going to charge it up.
If somebody goes at them or says somebody does whatever, they're going to go for it.
They're good guys.
You know, they're good at what they do.
No, no, they're good guys and they do.
I want you guys to get along.
I hope y'all not a beef.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, I didn't even watch the video because if I watch, if I consume any content that I have an opinion about, the moment this Hennessy touches my lips, I'm going off.
So I didn't even watch it.
I still haven't watched it.
The only thing is, they titled it, and this was something we were just talking about even off of this shit.
Like, they were lumping me into, like, they cover this particular part of YouTube about manusphere and red pill and alpha male.
Yeah.
And all of a sudden, they were like, yo, this alpha male academics.
And I'm like, yo, who talks like that?
Yeah.
Like, who's like, I'm the alpha male.
You know what I mean?
Stupid way to talk.
Hey, not because I call myself Big Ag.
That's just what happens in music.
Yeah.
Like, Big Draco.
Like, Draco, the first one to do it.
He says, Big Draco.
All right.
So if it's Big Draco, all right, it's Big Ag.
It's Big Everybody.
Big Beta.
You used to call yourself Big Beta.
I'm Big Blue Pill, actually.
My rapper name.
See, I don't even, like, that blue pill, Red Pill shit is like.
I used to be a little blue pill, but I'm big blue pill.
I'm seeing a lot more.
I feel all that stuff is like, you know, kind of overblown because it's ideology, you know, and it's been getting popular recently because people want something to believe in to get out of their current state.
But like, I'm not somebody who subscribes to either of those things.
Some of these things might match with what my already thinking is, but also some of them, some of those like, you know, thoughts or some of those ideologies is like, yo, I completely reject.
So, you know, I seen them kind of like label me like I was like in the ilk or realm of Fresh and Fit and Fresh and Fit are my homies, but that's not necessarily me.
So like once I seen that, I'm like, you know, I know they do reaction videos and they do usually pretty fair critique.
I'm not going to get at them just because I feel like they didn't understand.
They're thinking I'm something that I'm not.
So you're giving them benefit of because usually they're being honest and they're shooting from him.
Also, I think they also, when they saw the video, again, I don't know how much research they did.
They said the way they titled it.
I didn't watch it.
They titled it like I put my hands on a woman, which at that point, we're not even keeping it intellectually honest.
Right?
And, you know, that's something that by Shaderoom posted initially, that's what some people thought.
So when I seen that, I'm like, you know what?
Just because I don't want to go back and forth with y'all and I get really nasty and low down when they come to get at somebody, I'm like, I'm going to just let y'all, I didn't even look at it.
But yeah, so like situations like that, I'm not tripping over that though.
Right.
I said, I like going back and forth with rappers.
When a rapper put me in a bar or when Meghan Stallion tweeted at me, you forever putting me history.
You get what I mean?
Like, when people see me, like, they're almost seeing the people who I've interacted with.
That's why I like going back and forth.
The rap.
I remember actually, when you got it, it's heightened my profile.
I can't go to somebody like you, you know, who those dudes are.
I've been preaching.
I can't go.
I can't go to the club like, yo, y'all know I've been preaching, made a video about me.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
Yo, the nigga I played here 30 times a night.
I remember listening to me twice on this album.
You get what I mean?
The moment I thought Charlemagne made it, made it was when Drake put him in back to back.
I was like, this motherfucker is going to pop bottles with Charlamagne.
He's a part of history now.
Facts.
Like, that's crazy.
Facts.
So, and it just shows you where influence and culture kind of comes from.
Because, like, even people who are way bigger than me on YouTube, they'll just look at me in a completely cool, unique space because they're like, yo, you're in the realm of this rap community that we all, like, people look up to musicians.
Like, they're streamers.
This guy, Kai Sanat, Aiden Ross, they're bigger than some of these rappers.
There's rappers running, flocking to them just to try to get a platform.
But it's not seen as cool as some of these rappers.
You know what I mean?
There's a cool factor to music.
They're rock stars.
And right now, streamers are not rock stars.
And who knows what they will be in the future?
But at this moment, they're not.
There's something about music.
Also, music just hits you differently.
It's biological.
Like, there's a reason why, like, you teach the ABCs to kids in a song.
It just hits us diphthong, right?
Like, and that's why I said 6ix9ine got to get back to it.
You got to get back to the shit that really matters.
Unless you're, you know, I know you said the money's going to dry him, but he should be good for a while.
Yeah.
If you're just good with getting booked to perform show songs from a couple years ago, cool.
But if you want to, you know, me, I came in this to be a legend.
The tricky thing about 6ix9ine is that, like, I'll be honest, the most fire 6ix9ine song.
Which one?
In my opinion, he wasn't beefing with nobody.
Which one?
Pussy got that wet wet got that.
What was it?
I got that super so good.
But that shit with, it was Nikki was on us all.
Like, for me, I thought, to me, that's the one.
Yeah, gummo.
No, no, to me, that's the most fire.
Where he's on the stoop with all the bloods?
Yeah.
That one's.
The hottest songs is when he's beefing.
Listen, for me, I thought to you, bro, I remember.
Shot, shots, shots, shots, shots.
Knowing that it's almost like, come on, what?
No, no, no.
Dude, if I want like real drill, I'll listen to like Lil Mabu or something like that.
Like someone who really knows it.
You know what I mean?
What do you mean, who, bro?
It's the hardest drill rapper in the game right now.
You know Lil Mabu?
Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Or are you dumb?
No, it's not.
This is Lil Mabu is one of the hardest.
Literally, one of the hardest drill rappers on the motherfucking planet, bro.
You tell me you've never.
Yo, wicked bitch, put that shit on.
This is one of the hardest on the end of the wicked witch?
Whatever, yeah.
Yo, it's a lot of sensor got dropped three days ago.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah.
You look at it like that?
Bro, Lil Mabu is the hardest drill rapper in the game right now.
How many bodies are you doing?
You give it up.
Why are you trying to get people caught up, bro?
You always out here snitching.
You see what they're doing to our music, bro?
Bro, that's drill, bro.
You see what they do?
That's drill.
That's drill, bro.
You see what they're doing to our music, bro?
Yo, call me Big Vulture from now on.
Big Volt?
Big Vulture from now on.
Vulture.
You know what I mean?
I do that.
100%.
That is fire, bro.
How many views that shit got?
237,000.
Taking over drill music.
Name another drill rapper as fire as Lil Mabu.
K-Flock, man.
It's hottest out here.
You think?
Hottest, man.
What is his number one song?
Now the heny's hitting.
I was waiting to feel it.
I was like, I don't feel this at all.
Well, somebody say, being honest, he's in jail, though.
You know what I mean?
I don't count that.
What do you mean?
That's fake.
What?
No, he was real.
Exactly what he rapped about, he did.
No, but that don't count.
It's easy.
Like, it's easy to have a hit song if you're actually out there murdering people.
It's hard to have, it's hard to have a hit song if you're not murdering people and rapping about it.
Logic is sound.
You're talking about Lil Tech.
Everybody watches a documentary of someone who killed a million people.
Obviously, that's easy.
Making a movie where you pretend to kill someone or your pretend murder is way harder.
That's why Lil Tech is the best rapper ever.
Exactly.
The easiest thing to do in music is actually kill people and then rap about it.
No, no, no.
What?
There's nothing easier.
There's nothing easier.
The easiest thing to do in documentaries is actually be a serial killer and then make a movie about it.
The hardest thing to do in music.
This guy actually fired.
It's harder to be a killer in real life, hide all your murders and be free to make the video.
I'm sorry, is he free?
I mean, I'm sorry.
He's not free, but a couple other people.
That's what I'm saying.
Look at my man Gucci.
Say again?
Yep.
Look at Gucci Man.
But Gucci did self-defense.
He wasn't out there just shooting people, bro.
Gucci man, bro.
All I know is the one that he was caught up for, it was self-defense.
That don't count.
It's a baby.
Self-defense.
Why are you trying to put bodies on him, bro?
My baby shot like five niggas, man.
I just talked to him.
He told me.
Self-defense?
A lot of self-defense.
People come on his property.
Hold on.
I'm white, bro.
You got to impress me.
I'm a serial killer guy.
Like, you got to impress me with your little kid.
Like, are you eating people?
Somebody tried to kill you.
Are you eating people?
You're saying you just shoot them and leave them there?
You're watching that definitely.
Jeffrey Dahmer shit.
That shit's crazy.
Yo, shooting people and leaving them there and not eating them is wild pussy, bro.
I need a drill rapper talking about shooting someone and eating them.
Oh, Big Dahmer?
You've heard me?
Big Dahmer.
We're going to get some shit like that.
Hey, step it up.
Step it up, bro.
I mean, some of these guys could technically, like, King Vaughn might seriously be a serial killer.
Might have had seven bodies.
But he's dead, right?
Yeah, I mean, eventually he got killed, but like, oh, ain't Jeffrey Dahmer there?
But not from no, he got you there.
Nah, that was a good counterpoint.
He was alive for fucking decades, murdering people and eating them.
King Vaughn had like a five-year run.
Don't matter.
He got more bodies.
Don't disrespect.
Don't disrespect.
Yo, don't disrespect.
No disrespect.
No, disrespect.
Ted Bundy had 50.
Dahmer had like 23 or something like that.
23.
Yeah, but like, I'm just saying.
Dahmer was convicted of 15 of the 16 murders he committed on the 20th.
You're talking about light murders.
You're talking about like one or two people.
When I watch documentaries like that, I got to ask my white compadres certain innocuous questions.
What's the weirdest shit you ever made, man?
Like, what's the.
You went to bed for a long time?
You guys got to ask you certain type of questions just to kind of because you never really know.
Anyway, back to what we were talking about.
The thing you said save for Campbell, what was it again?
Manosphere Reality Check00:04:36
Oh, like, if you're hanging around people that operate in the manosphere, they're not going to be able to do that.
This dude don't like that I hang out with Fresh and Fit when I go to the bathroom.
No, I'm saying.
Why not?
You're going to be associated with me.
What's wrong with Fresh and Fit?
What's wrong with Fresh and Fit?
Nigga, I don't have no problem with them.
You want to hang with them in Miami?
I don't know.
Why not?
I'm cool now.
Why?
You want to go to the club with him?
I'm good.
I've been to the club.
I've had more, like, I've had fun times at the club.
I'm good.
All right.
So, what's wrong with those particular guys?
There's nothing wrong with them.
Why are you creating this narrative?
See, I'm at.
So you're saying there's nothing because, like, I feel the question about the manosphere, right?
Again, I'm not involved with that.
You're a guy whose opinions.
You react to things daily.
So I'm curious to see your opinion about the manosphere as an outsider, not as an insider.
Yeah, I mean, I particularly think that a lot of the people who are the leaders or the people that I know, I don't know that much people in there, but whether I'm talking about that Rulu loser, even the homies Fresh and Fit.
I won't even say Kevin Samuels, you know, Guy Riser Soul, but to a certain extent, he was more about trying to get people to understand because we're living in a fucked up world where, you know, Instagram has kind of fucked up the date marketplace, where in reality, before Instagram and just the connectivity that the whole world has, you wouldn't have a girl who just, yeah, she looks good being having, having the access to possibly date or hang out with a multi-millionaire.
And these days, it's only a DMOA, right?
And that is, you know, that's why I fucked with what Kevin Samuels was saying to a certain extent when he said, hey, listen, we're having less marriages and less families that are happening because women have these unrealistic expectations.
You should lower your expectations.
Most of these women, right, they like younger women, clearly I'm talking about, they think they all deserve a millionaire.
What's wrong with that?
Why can't they think that?
That's what I don't understand.
No, no, I don't understand the logic.
Like, think that you should deserve that.
And then life will tell you if that's something that's attainable.
But like, I wouldn't tell some young guy to think, hey, you should be more realistic with your expectations.
Like, think you deserve the hottest girl in the world.
Think you deserve the best job?
Think you deserve the best career.
Like, you won't get to where you are without having grandiose dreams.
Well, I think that's where Kevin Samuels was.
I agree with him.
He was on point.
He was making people be realistic.
But why?
What is the purpose?
We live in a dream world.
Like you and I.
Well, there's a cost to being unrealistic.
For example.
You got to be willing to pay it.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
The cost that society was feeling is that we were seeing family structures getting broken down.
And like, really.
Family structure has been broken down.
This is so funny when like when guys that don't have families start to talk about the importance of family structure.
Well, that's not my thought point.
Understand, like it's like guys.
All they do is prey on girls that come from broken family structures.
And then talk about how we need a good family structure.
What happened to the nuclear family?
Wait, wait, wait.
Where's your nuclear family?
All of them.
And then here's the point that I say, right?
Because I don't give a fuck about what.
If you have a family, you could talk about the importance of family.
Here's the thing, though.
But I don't give a fuck about what women do in that sense.
I'm telling you what someone in that realm, like Kevin Samuels, would say, which I think has created in theory, but I agree with you.
Can I give you, hold on, you can't tell people what to do.
I don't give a fuck.
You know why?
The majority, like, if we're saying, yeah, women should all seek to try to get the highest earning, whatever, whatever type of guy.
Sorry, I'm in that bracket.
I'm going to win.
This is the reason why Nick Cannon get intended she's pregnant.
Like, again, the people at the highest parts of society always win.
Right.
I usually give the pushback when it comes to that manosphere thing to the audience.
And this is where I tell them to be realistic.
This high-value man thing is based on being a 1% guy.
The probability of you being 1% is not high.
It is 1%.
It's 1%.
So I usually tell them, if you're looking for a way to live life and a way to treat women and treat relationships, if you're looking to get taught by theories that only apply to 1% man and it's 1% chance you'll ever live that life, you're wasting your time.
High-Value Man Ideology00:06:39
But you're right.
Just like how we should say to the woman.
I want the guys to dream too.
Okay, but there are costs.
You know what costs are?
And this is why Tate got banned.
You now have a bunch of, whether it's kids, whether it's just men who are just not in that position, starting to by their attitude and how they're treating women, it trickles down to be kind of dangerous at times.
Here's the reason.
Tate got banned because he was saying jokes and then acting as if they weren't jokes.
He's a smart guy who is also very funny.
And he's actually thoughtful too.
And his mistake was going, I really am this.
This is who I am.
I am not playing a character, which he was.
I am this and I've embodied this and this is who I am.
And this is what he's playing the character with most of the things he's saying.
And listen, listen, listen.
You're not saying anything different from me because if you really look at why you got banned, it's because of the influence on the impressionable minds.
And the reason why it was influential is because he was like, this is real.
And this is how you have this life.
And this is how you do these things.
He's also said other things that obviously don't get highlighted at all, but like he's worked incredibly hard at the things that he's done and been incredibly successful at those things.
It takes a lot of dedication and discipline to do those things.
The guy's smart.
If you hear him talk, you understand he's smart.
Exactly.
And he found a way to hack the system.
It was like, it was really brilliant the way he did it.
I think his miscalculation, which I've even heard him talk about, is he's like, now I wish I rephrased them.
You never get to the point where you can't control your narrative.
And this is the problem with having the removal of access to either YouTube or Twitch or any of these things.
Like going out there and getting canceled for fun is not good because you can't control your narrative.
Now you got to go on other people's shows and be, I mean, if you look at the Piers Morgan thing that Tate did, it's like it was this onslaught of questions.
He couldn't actually articulate what he wanted to say.
And you're at the whim of these other people.
Never get to the point where you can't go on a platform and reach millions of people and say exactly how you feel about your situation.
You were in a position where people are trying to mischaracterize you, right?
You had a million different outlets to go out and say exactly what happened, clear the narrative.
If you didn't, if you were canceled, you're what people say you are.
Yeah, but also here's a very big difference, right?
And I always go back to, I'm like, yo, you know, in the level that I'm at now, when I do interviews with people for the first time and they're trying to like figure out my past, the only thing they always, you know, and I always talk to Charlie about it, he says, yo, you're lucky.
That's the only thing that they try to, they could really try to hold on to is like the war in Chirac shit, right?
And if that was my, if that was an ideology.
Oh, I wasn't talking about this.
No, no, no, yeah.
No, no, no.
But imagine if that was an ideology that I was still having to live to.
Because here's the thing with Tate.
Does Tate get that popular without someone, like, it's not what he was saying.
He was also packaged.
He was packaging it better than anybody.
That sounded like Kipp.
Yeah, yeah.
That came with jokes.
That came with tongue-in-cheek comments.
It's so funny.
There's a lot of those guys.
It's funny.
So again, it's like you can't really just kind of say to him now, like, well, if you didn't say that back then, that's all part of why he got to here.
That's why I've also said, and shit, I told my dudes in Fresh and Finn, I said, yo, that rhetoric is not meant for the mainstream.
That rhetoric is mainstream.
It's meant for niche groups.
For a niche group.
Exactly.
Once it goes mainstream, then you risk cancellation.
I think that's why like the beauty of having an art form, the beauty of having stand-up or the beauty of having music is you're allowed to touch these topics that are really radioactive in a way where people can digest them.
There are jokes that I have that are way more sexist than anything Tate said, but they're funny and it's clearly a joke.
So now the information can get out there.
Not like I'm trying to like push out truths or whatever.
I push out comedy.
But when you're going, this is who I am.
I am this person.
This is my life.
And pushing ideology.
And pushing ideology, which is very important.
Now, I think what Tate did is he had this rise to fame that was meteoric, right?
Because he was so salacious.
My assumption, and I would love to hear what he has to say about it, is that if he reduced how salacious it was by, let's say, 20%, 40%, doesn't matter, it wouldn't be as fast, but it still could rise because at the end of the day, he's an engaging speaker and he's very entertaining.
So it's like, how do I get there while at the same time reducing the radio activity of it?
If you look at Ben Shapiro, right?
So he was either trolling Mike Brown or Trayvon Martin.
I forget exactly what it was, but like...
Like on the anniversary of the death, there was a troll tweet that I think is still out there.
He made his bones being salacious.
Maybe not as salacious as Tate, but it was salacious.
He was antagonistic.
He was pushing.
Now, he's retracted.
He even put out a book where he's like, we got to hear both sides.
He has the Daily Wire, which is a news organization that is putting out content.
He's become way more mainstream and palatable because his rise to the top wasn't as meteoric.
Yeah, but here's the thing, though.
In that realm, you only get to, like, after Kevin Samuels died, you only became the guy if you went as hard for salacious.
But you don't want to be the guy.
You could slowly get there.
Yeah, but that rhetoric in itself, the audience that's digesting it doesn't want middle-of-the-road shit.
They don't want to shit.
They want extreme shit.
So again, that's the price you pay them for extreme.
No, no, but that's what I'm trying to do.
Without art behind it.
If you put art behind it, you could do it.
But if you don't put art behind it, like the drill music, perfect example.
If you make art out of these horrendous things, we'll listen to it.
We'll enjoy it.
You know, we'll take it in.
If you just go on a pod, you're like, yeah, I'm out here murdering.
I'm doing this.
The police are calling the next day.
What do you mean you did that murder?
If Tate didn't go as hard, he wouldn't be as nearly as big.
His point is, if you're not.
If people were going harder, the dude from Fresh and Fit, Mari, the way he packages it isn't with enough comedy and with enough, I would say maybe social media.
A lot of Tate.
A lot of people, and I'm not picking on anyone, but a lot of people in that community tend to regurgitate stuff that I feel like a lot of us have heard if you're old enough.
The thing about Tate was it's funny in a unique way and it's packaged in a unique way.
It seems more thoughtful and it seems like there's more depth to it.
So it was in that sense, more quote unquote dangerous in that it's going to get a lot more people to be like, oh, this guy's talking something.
I remember that.
Mainstream Media Hypocrisy00:14:53
I don't remember if he's pivoted.
I think this is a smart move by him.
Because one of the things he got in trouble for was when, even on Piers Morgan, they said, you really believe your wife is your property.
And really, he's trying to quote some religious biblical historic things.
And they're shitting on him.
If he was really like, and I think that's why he's kind of like leading into religion, that he could throw it back on religion, saying, how about you go to war with religion?
Because before, he's literally, they're like, wait, he's explaining like, well, doesn't the father give away the wife?
And doesn't, there's the last thing, all that stuff.
And they're looking at him like, so you're just saying it's property, right?
Once they get that yes, you're misogynistic.
Yeah.
Now he gets to say, listen, I'm going by the letter of the Quran.
Yeah, he really conveniently found Islam.
Oh, it's perfect.
Is he Muslim?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You didn't see the video?
No.
Video him praying.
I don't know.
Which, by the way, is a good move for him because a lot of his ideals and things he says, his philosophies matches with a more traditional time that usually Islam kind of supports.
And here's the genius of it.
Here's the genius of going Islam.
Liberals will go at Christianity all day.
They're not going to go at Islam nearly as quickly.
Bingo.
So if you find Islam and then you can quote anything in Islam that makes it seem like it supports what you're saying, even if it actually doesn't.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of liberals are going to be like, well, I guess.
You know what he said?
Said, listen, he said, I found Islam because I've realized it's the last religion that exists.
It's true.
I love the Abrahamic ones, yeah.
Well, he's just saying that he says no, he says Christianity ain't shit because there's too much tolerance.
So now, if you read the scripture and it says, hey, you can't be gay, you'll have a gay preacher, and it'll be like, oh, you got to accept everybody.
So it's kind of being hypocritical.
He's like, at least with Islam, is completely, this is how you got to be, no way else.
It's less tolerant.
Can I say the point that I, this just proves my point.
One of the most searched figures.
He actually said it.
Yeah.
So one of the most searched figures in history, right?
Like there was a point in time where he was the most searched person on the internet.
Oh, he said, any Christian who believes in good and understands the battle against evil must convert.
Now, he's smart, man.
So, but think about this.
He converted to Islam, which should be news for the most Google person to convert.
I didn't even know.
Why do I not know?
Because he let all of his platforms get stripped from him.
You never let your mouthpiece get influenced.
He's all over.
Hold on.
By the way.
He made like 18 million on Hustlers University or something crazy like that.
Like he's still getting his money.
No, no, he was making great money.
There's no question.
No, no, there's no question he's making good money.
My point is, he can't control his narrative.
There's a difference between making money and the ability to control your narrative.
No, no, but he's doing something that this is why I think he's so smart.
You can, though.
He has an interview dropping with influencers every day.
I watch a new interview of him every day.
It's like a decentralized platform where, yeah, you're not going to his channel, but if you want to hear the ideology of Andrew Tate, they didn't ban him.
They just banned his channel.
How is he going to justify having 14 Bugais or whatever as a devout Muslim?
Hey, listen, this is a Hustlers of the University, brother.
He's got a lot of them.
Hey, no.
Obviously, he's going to make it work.
What I'm just trying to say is like, Saudis do it.
He's Muslim like a Saudi prince is Muslim.
Well, by the way, he said he's learning.
And also, yo, he got a bag from Rumble, man.
Rumble might be that.
Really?
How much?
Also, and I did also want to pivot to a question about like flagrant because y'all are right.
Like in totality, when people ask me about like just going completely left, right?
And remember, I told you we started this whole thing.
I said, I ain't talking about it in Peebles, right?
It's like.
Talking about what?
Y'all want me to, yeah, we ain't gonna do it again.
Y'all want me to go a boss to the wall, but the smartest individuals are edgy, but never jump off the cliff.
Okay?
Jump off the cliff with art.
You can jump off the cliff.
Well, if you're a comedian, no, you're a comedian.
Let me give you a perfect example.
You walk into a museum, okay?
There's beautiful paintings.
There's beautiful sculptures.
I disagree with you.
Wait for it of butt-naked people.
Some of them are engaged in crazy sex acts.
Okay.
Okay.
Like, like that shit.
You could bring children in there.
Entire schools go there for trips.
Nobody gives any pushback because it's art.
If you could put that in a magazine, they say you got to be 18 to buy it.
They put it behind the stands.
You can't order the video.
You got to show your ID to do all these other types of things.
If you want to be salacious, if you want to be crazy, make it art and make it enjoyable, make it entertaining, and nobody will say a fucking thing.
You're saying this from a place of privilege.
You are an accomplished comedian and you've always been one from day one.
Well, no, you're not accomplished from day one.
No, You've been a comedian.
Yes.
Day one.
I've told people from even before I did the word shot, right?
Like, if you look at the category all my YouTube channels are on, it's comedy.
It's not in music.
It's comedy.
Yeah.
Only been in comedy.
I'll give another example.
This guy named Charles DeWhite.
He said some stuff.
People are mad about it.
That motherfucker.
He's fucking.
I told him to get on stage.
I'm finally glad he did.
Oh, he got on stage?
Yeah.
Yeah, he sold out of the comedy show.
Hello.
That guy.
He's so funny.
I told him, I'm like, yo, I watched a lot of people.
Where does he post?
I looked on his Instagram.
I don't see his own.
He's centralized again.
Is he on Facebook?
What does he do?
His page gets demonetized.
He has deleted every certain amount.
But the content is so good, everybody else reposts it.
Bro.
And what happens is he just moves around and charges for appearances.
Oh, you want him to do your podcast?
You got to pay him.
He's not doing this shit for free.
You know what I mean?
So he's just getting bags left and right.
But he doesn't have necessarily a platform of his own.
However, he says stuff, and I told him, I said, bro, you're so funny.
Like, I'll disagree with half of the shit.
You said, but you're so funny.
You should get on stage.
He finally did.
He said some stuff about T.I. and he's trying to use a comedy card.
But that's what I'm saying.
You're privileged.
Not everybody.
Yo, I said some stuff.
Artists have privilege.
Musicians have privilege.
They can hear all that fucking stuff.
I said some stuff about Diego.
When I'm on stream.
If you actually do it, that's on you.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Yo, I'm on stream, right?
I'm on stream.
And I always like, once I get lit enough, I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm doing a bit.
Like, I'm like working it out type shit.
So I'm just cracking jokes at whatever I see.
The craziest off-the-wall jokes at whatever.
I go to shade room and I'm just like shooting from the hip.
Remember, I'm on stream.
But I even tell people, I'm like, can I make some jokes?
I even say it.
Yeah, yeah.
I get to see a relationship between Lil Wayne's daughter, Regenay, is with some guy who's a YouTuber.
I crack a few jokes.
She used to be with a guy who's caught up in that Rico thing names YF and Lucci.
I'm like, man, it's kind of interesting how quickly a woman will like just switch from being with a gangster rapper when he gets in trouble to being with like the choir boy, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I throw the B word in there, but I throw it in comedically and I take it back instantly.
Oh, okay.
So I'm like, yo, I said, like, I said, bitches, and I'm like, oh, no, no, no, I shouldn't say that.
And I bring it back instantly.
I'm cracking jokes.
This is 20 minutes of me cracking jokes.
They clip it, they put it on the shade room, and now they're like, this is fucking hateful.
This guy is a hater.
And I don't get the luxury.
And the whole time it's a fucking joke.
Everyone's like, oh, no.
Why is he in their business?
I'm like, damn, it's a joke.
It's like, I watch Duval tweet a lot.
And I'm like, if I see you tweet, I would even, you would literally have to be like, I don't know what you would have to say for me.
Like, yo, no, Schultz is dead serious.
I read your tweets or your Instagram posts, same with Duval.
Like, this is a joke, right?
So I don't get offended at y'all.
With me, I did 20 minutes.
I said, I gave a precursor and then like, yo, that was just jokes.
I don't give a fuck about that shit.
They grab it.
So the shade room, yo, he's hateful.
Yo, I'm on the phone with T.I. having like a Minister Farrakhan situation.
Well, you know, Mr. Actor Pepperson, you talked about the, like, you talked about one of the daughters of the protector.
I'm like, that's the love for Lil Wayne, man.
Yeah, but like, again, what Shul said.
He didn't take it back immediately after.
And it was just a shit.
Sometimes, yeah, but you have to understand, like, sometimes there's clout in shitting on you and there's clout in protecting someone's daughter.
So I'm not saying that that's why T.I. did it, but there might be people who go, hey, here's a convenient time to say that this guy academics is bad.
Let me jump on it.
Yo, I watched y'all joke about like Bill Gates' daughter or some shit.
We'll never do that.
You know, he was at the show you were at.
I know.
No, and his daughter.
And I looked at them like, unless.
I thought we complimented.
Nah, yeah, nah.
What did we say?
But even, hold on.
Even what y'all told me, like, say even like Nance Pelosi or whatever, whoever.
But what were we saying about her?
I said she had a juggernaut, man.
All I'm just saying, though.
All I'm saying is that.
You heard her husband's boyfriend beat him up?
Okay.
What?
Wait, you didn't hear this?
That's the rumor right now that they were in a tryst.
Yeah, stop it.
Deadass, bro.
That's the goal.
Dead ass.
That's a conspiracy.
Yo, by the way, you saw how the fucking mainstream media shut me down.
They took my battery off.
Another thing I was envious about, and you see, I come up here, I'm like, yo, I'm not even talking about it.
Nancy Pelosi's husband was getting smoked out by an escort.
Okay, this is.
And then they fought.
This is what Elon tweeted and then deleted on his own Twitter platform.
Elon said, let's look into it.
What are we looking into?
But beyond that, right?
Let's think about it.
Let's think about it.
Y'all did the Kanye episode.
Yeah.
Y'all were roasted.
I couldn't do that.
If I said this.
They came at me too.
Nah, not really.
Bro, they went crazy.
Nah, they came.
Like, who's they?
Who's they?
Definitely not they.
Not they's.
Not the day.
Your thing.
Yours thing.
Which day?
It's the other day.
These are the days.
The days that think George Floyd died from fentanyl.
Kanye became their hero that day.
And all of them were piping up like crazy.
And then the days that think, what was the other one?
Oh, they hate the Jews.
But not hate the Jews.
They actually don't think it's hateful.
They're like, yeah, the Jews do run all these things.
And they are an organization.
They don't even think that they're hateful.
And I think there were anti-establishment days that were like, oh, this guy's fighting against the establishment.
I like Kanye.
So this is the weird thing that the way that the world is organized now.
And this taught me a lot about it, is that there are people that are rightfully so upset with the mainstream media and their lack of like, let's say, transparency or honesty with narratives that they reject every mainstream media narrative.
And at a certain point, Kyrie is an example.
Like, there's a lot of people like this.
There are whole communities because they felt like they've been lied to so much.
And they have.
I subscribe to that to a certain point.
Not when it comes to George Floyd dying, not when it comes to the Jews, but when it comes to like Nancy Pelosi's husband being the greatest investor in history.
Yeah, maybe that has something to do with Nancy Pelosi telling him what the fuck they're going to do and how that's going to influence companies, right?
So I understand the resentment of the, literally, he's the best investor in history.
I know, I know, I know.
This bitch makes $100,000 a year.
They have $200 million cash.
How is that possible?
So I get the frustration with it, but then that can also become your personality, right?
So then when George Floyd died because of Derek Chauvin putting his knee on the neck, turns into, wait a minute, was his knee on the neck?
It looked more like the back.
Oh, this is the mainstream media switch to the narrative.
He had fentanyl in the system.
Oh, they're covering up.
It was really a fentanyl.
They just want there to be race riots, et cetera.
Everything is a red pill.
But here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
When it comes to these people, I get where that energy comes from because when you've been lied to so many times and when a narrative has been accepted and pushed so many times.
They're not questioning it though.
They're purporting like some other reality to be the truth.
Yeah.
Like the actual truth.
Yeah, that's what happens when the mainstream media ignores Epstein, right?
And then he dies in a fucking cell and you start going, hold on, you're not even going to talk about how there was an island?
We're not even having a discussion that Clinton was on a plane with this guy.
Tapes were deleted.
They all fell asleep.
Yeah, like we're not going to talk about how they went into his house and then got no information.
Like, why are we not having these discussions?
When you don't have the discussions, you start to have a distrust for the mainstream media, which is very reasonable.
So I understand how that becomes your personality type.
And it's also very engaging.
But you can't excuse the behavior just because you've been traumatized.
Say that one time.
You can't excuse the behavior just because you've been traumatized.
Exactly.
Get his ass.
Excuse what I think he's adding on.
You can have shitty behavior.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
Regardless of being, it's like Selena.
You can't excuse the behavior just because you've been traumatized.
It's called the double back.
It's a fair thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, just because you went through Santrana doesn't mean that you can be out here.
Yo, the point I was really getting at is that I fucking sit and watch how like the group, that counterculture group, they went, they were really frustrated because they're like, oh, shit, Schultz, you took the mainstream narrative.
Sometimes the mainstream narrative is right.
Wait, hold on, though.
I'm glad you said that.
Because I know you're saying they, and I understand who they is now, came for y'all, but do they have power?
Those people don't have power, right?
And that's why they can't form a narrative.
Define power.
We've seen people.
I think that those people, their rhetoric is already dangerous to the populace.
And also, like, say, if they purport their narrative too big, YouTube would shut them down.
They're not going to get you shut down.
I mean, if they had, if they had, I think they have power.
They have enough power to annoy the fucking shit out of me.
But they can't, if they had, sorry to interrupt, but like, if they had power power, which is what you're talking about, they wouldn't be niche.
They wouldn't be counterculture.
They would be culture.
So that's what I'm saying.
So they're upset.
He had no backlash then.
No, no, define what backlash is.
You mean like backlashes?
Repercussions?
Yeah, video.
Oh, no, no, no.
I didn't have that.
Video removed, strike, place, demonetize, shadow ban.
That's actually putative action.
There's other shit that's like, yo, shut y'all, niche, bitch ass.
They don't have power like that, but they can help shape perception.
They can move perception in a certain direction.
It's like if a restaurant has a Michelin star, but then the Google ratings or Yelp ratings are low as fuck.
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Right.
You're going to look at that restaurant and be like, huh, what is this?
There's collective action at the bottom.
Absolutely.
And it just also makes, like my frustration was it made me look like all my fucking supporters are hate Jews and fucking believe George Floyd died only of fentanyl So I'm dealing with posting this thing publicly and then seeing all this hate and now it looks like that's the only people listen granted We have fucking millions of people that listen.
Yeah.
You know, so I have to deal with that perception and how that makes me look, how that makes us look.
So that's also frustrating.
Slight backlash, man.
I mean, things move on.
Deleted, man.
Say again?
Kanye got his backlash.
And you're saying that's wrong.
You don't even know why he got his account.
No one knows why he got his account deleted.
Well, it seemed, it seemed related.
What does that mean?
It seems.
I can only assume if JP Morgan says we're discontinuing our service.
Yeah, but they did that a month before any of this happened.
That was before the tweets.
It was way before the tweets.
What was he doing then?
Exactly.
This is my, what I assume it is, is I assume that most of his money is in equity in companies.
It's not in cash.
So he exists on loans, right?
And when you take out a certain amount of loans in a bank based on how much money you have in your companies, the bank eventually goes, all right, I think that's enough.
Oh, okay.
That's what I think it really is.
Now, he was also critical of like the owners and that kind of stuff a little bit, but like this is way before he said anything public.
The most hurtful thing I think they did to him is.
But isn't that funny?
There's a perfect example of perception.
It's like two things happened.
You don't know the timing.
And then you just make the justification.
But the order matters a lot.
Huge.
Yeah, but people don't bother.
You know what I mean?
They'd rather this order.
And this is what happens to the counterculture folks a lot of times.
They don't look into the details that don't work for them.
They only look in the details that justify either if they're conspiracy or that justify disregarding the mainstream narrative.
You're definitely right with that.
And I identify as a counterculture person.
You're right with that because a lot of my beliefs.
The music, good music dropped him.
They announced, oh, with you.
I didn't know that you apologized for calling What's Her Face the B word?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
I only knew that you called her the B word.
But here's the thing, though.
Which is bitch.
Wait, hold on.
Wait.
So with Kanye, it also, like, the news came out.
Yo, good music, good music is no longer involved with Def Jam.
Def Jam drops Kanye.
But if you read like the presser, it said, oh, this happened in 2021.
Like, now, ignore that because it doesn't fit the narrative.
This really funny the narrative for you was this guy's an asshole.
So let's shit on him.
Oh, it's time.
He's been shitting on all these artists.
The labels are like, yo, this motherfucker shits on our artist.
Now they don't sell as many albums.
Well, man, fuck that guy.
Let's put some gas on this shit.
It doesn't fit on the narrative to say that he apologized a second afterwards.
So the same thing works with the...
Nah, hey, listen, man.
I just want to get in that comedy lane.
Just like I did Alex Jones after Kimo Yasho was just saying.
Oh, yeah.
Yo, I think just telling some jokes, just telling people, oh, it ain't that serious.
I mean, what did we say with the episodes?
I think the reason why the episodes weren't good with him is that this is a comedy episode.
We're not doing anything but being absolutely.
If he got on stage with one microphone as a stand-up comedian in a comedy club and it was like, what if nothing is real?
Let's hear him out.
But when he gets on a news thing and says it, when it's InfoWars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When it calls it info, no, different ballgame.
Have you guys never gotten shook of like, you know, because, for example, so I'm making a cognizant thing of, you know what?
Until we get past this wave of talking about them peoples and their history, I don't want to, I have no opinion and I love them.
Okay.
No, I have no problem talking about Jewish people because we actually like them.
No, I like him too.
I love too.
You like him?
I love him.
Trump, this guy.
Yeah, I just like him, bro.
But I'm wondering, like, have y'all ever gotten close?
Because y'all really operate really nicely through everything through comedy.
Has it ever gotten to a point where it's like, yo, all right, man, yo, we can't even crack a joke about this.
Let's just kind of ignore this and move on.
It's not that for me.
No, I don't think so.
As long as there are jokes to crack and there's like humor there.
But what we've never taken a political side.
I see what happens to a lot of dudes.
Like even Hassan is a perfect example, right?
Hassan has taken a political side on things.
And because of that, there's like all this, there's all this love for him on his side, but there's this vitriol for him on the opposition.
And like when he came on, all we did was busted balls, had fun.
He said crazy jokes as well, just like us.
Like he's a dude.
He just wants to hang out.
He defends jokes.
He's like, yo, we can't cancel somebody for jokes.
Exactly.
But because he exists in this binary, which is left versus right or whatever the fuck it is, these people look at those people as the end of their life, really.
And vice versa.
They're like, if things go this way, we all die.
If things go this way, we all die.
And when somebody's going to kill you because of the way that they think, you have animosity to them.
We've never said, hey, we're on a side because I think if we're all being intellectually honest, none of us are 100% on the side.
And when you're not 100% on the side, you have the glorious luxury of just being a human being, which is sometimes you feel a little right-wing, sometimes you feel a little left-wing.
And you respond to those things through comedy, which is what we do instead of telling people how to fucking live their lives.
And I think because of that, we haven't had the animosity.
Now, the first time I did that fucking Kanye thing was when we had people going, that was the thing that pissed me off the most when they were like, oh, this shit ain't funny.
And it was like, no, no, it is funny.
You just don't agree.
And if you can only laugh at this shit that you agree with, this show ain't for you.
Hey, by the way, it happened again, though.
I don't know if you recognize it when you were sitting next to Charlamagne on Brilliant Iliads.
What happened?
He said, which I think it wasn't really supposed to be funny, but he said, Kevin Durant reacted to it.
I posted him on the show.
I thought that shit was so soft.
But when he was like, yo.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I just don't know if Kanye is acting like a guy who I don't know how long he might be around.
Yeah, yeah.
For.
And you, on a comedic thing, because I see that in your eyes, you're like, how long are we talking?
Just think of it.
Yo, everyone was just like, yo, yo, Katie was like, this is nasty.
Everybody was just like, yo, yo, Charlamagne, why do you even say this?
What's wrong with Charlemagne shit?
Because they expect serious takes from him.
All right, that's fair.
But also, Charlemagne has said so much.
And I always told him this is, you never should say this.
But he said so much in his life.
And he said, excuse me, I don't tell jokes.
I'm not a comedian.
I don't tell jokes to tell the truth.
He said that so much.
And I was like, bro, stop saying that shit because you are a comedian.
You do tell jokes.
And the last thing you want is people taking these jokes seriously.
Seriously.
Exactly.
But with the KD shit that really annoyed me, it's like, well, KD, what you doing, bro?
That's what you're doing?
You commenting?
Are you going to call Kanye's people and getting them some help?
Because if he does end up, God forbid, dying, your little keyboard warrior shit didn't help him.
Maybe made you feel better about it.
But you got actual power people in your corner that you can make phone calls to.
You know what I mean?
Also, ask your business partner, Rich Kleinman, the Jewish guy, how he feels about what Kanye said.
Does he think those are some nasty things, KD?
Why don't you ask that guy who's made you a lot of money doing them business deals?
Does he think those things that I didn't say you seeing, I didn't say you saying all the things that Kanye said was nasty.
I'm just saying, like, I saw that little comment, which is wild pussy.
By the way, I think, like, I think he was just worried about Kanye.
I took my wife to the season opener, the Nets, and his bum ass loss.
And it's embarrassing.
Like, nah, because I was on the floor.
I put my wife's feet on the floor, bro.
I put my wife's wife on the floor.
We were on the floor seats.
I'm watching him.
What's the tickets close?
Say again?
What was them tickets?
You don't pay for tickets, Act.
Come on.
What?
Pays and clout.
Pays in clout.
You know what it is.
You know what I mean?
Selena Powell.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, you didn't pay for him?
Nah, shout out to Seat Geek, bro.
Come on, man.
Oh, I'll go get it.
Anyway, listen.
Damn.
Look, all I'm trying to say is, all I'm trying to say is I took her and I'm saying to my wife, I'm like, yo, this guy right here is probably arguably Katie up.
Not at all.
So, so, so I.
It was his choice, though.
Katie wanted to.
He tried to zap you up and you curved him.
No, I did not at all.
I wouldn't do that.
I was gassing him.
I was like, this is one of the greatest offensive players in history.
Damn.
And then they've got fucking their asses buttons.
We went to Carbone for the second half.
There's a Carbone inside the Nets.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, inside Barclays.
But yeah, so that was embarrassing for me as a person.
You know what I mean?
That was some nasty shit he did.
I'm not too sure.
Embarrassing me.
I'm not too sure.
And I think he felt just triggered by that video.
So I won't say it about him.
So do something, bro.
Call somebody.
You know who I think does that all the time?
LeBron.
I think when LeBron said that about LeBron.
LeBron said that about Telephone.
No, it didn't.
This is a nasty conversation.
This gars are hot.
LeBron tweeted.
Whoa, I don't know how to handle this.
Imagine typing that as a man with your big ass hands holding your phone like a tarantula.
Yo, Katie about to hit my phone and be like, yo, tell that bitch up about to hit him from the bird.
Yo, this is a nasty conversation this men are hat.
You know what I'm saying?
Say what you feel, bro.
Come on, man.
Do something.
I'm trying to get to the floor.
You know what I'm saying?
You do something.
You're trying to bring his ticket to the floor.
You know what I mean?
Yo, LeBron did the same thing.
What did LeBron do?
Replying to Elon Musk when, like, there was a tweet that went around the settings.
LeBron needs to reply to defense.
That's what he needs to do.
He needs to reply to defense.
Okay.
You said that ever since Elon.
I'm saying it, bro.
You acting like act right now.
What is in this, bro?
It's the henny.
He gassing me.
What the hell is in this shit, bro?
Yo, we got big show, too.
He's big shows.
You know what I'm saying?
Throw the training porn on.
Whoa, Why you got crazy, bro?
Yo, why you got so crazy?
Why you got so crazy?
That's what you be on with the henny, bro.
Yo, no, no.
Everybody drinks differently.
Yo, he gets a little drunk.
You know what I mean?
He started liking, you know what I mean?
Chicks with dicks.
I feel him.
Just a slight deck, bro.
You feel him?
I do not feel him.
You feel it.
Yo.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's go.
You like that video?
Never get me to beef with that community.
I love it.
You just say, Andrew, gonna get to it.
Did you see him looking at this shit?
Like, he was like, You can do painting.
He was like, This is how, this is how, hey, let me tell you, this is how you like went over the hill and like my tolerance is there for that community, right?
For what community?
Uh, the LGBTQ.
You were in your dick move when you were watching that video.
No, no, no, I think that was that little ruffling we seen over there by you.
But, um, anyway, it's not hard, though.
So, there ain't no real ruffling, bro.
No, it was big odds.
Yo, in college, in college, I got booked to do an event for the LGBTQ community.
And I remember at first, it was just like kind of like, I'm saying the Jamaican in me because historically, these Jamaicans just were just kind of non-time.
I'm like, nah, nah, fuck that.
And I ain't gonna lie to you.
You know, I didn't want to say, so I gave them a price.
I'm like, yo, this is more than anyone will pay for my services.
They're like, oh, no problem.
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Come through.
I had no more excuses.
I'm like, all right, fuck it.
I'm going to do it.
But what?
You were dancing or like what?
Oh, oh, I thought you was.
I thought you were stripping for those.
Like, there's no way they're going to pay for that.
I kid you.
By the way, it was one of the greatest events I did.
Really?
I ain't going to lie.
I see some shit in there.
You're like Thunderclap?
Nah, they were making the thunder.
I see some shit in there.
I'm like, all right, they were having a great time.
I did my job.
What songs were you?
Hold on, hold on, one second.
Is that the first time you ever paid for sex?
What?
What songs were you playing, bro?
Man, I was playing anything they enjoyed, man.
But did you have them?
Like, you had all the songs on your thing already?
No, of course, bro.
There's no songs called gay songs.
Y M C A. That's not a gay song.
Trump played at his rally.
I love that.
That's why it is a rain and men.
That's a classic song, bro.
I mean, Jay's got classic songs too, bro.
That's a song for women.
What do you mean?
All right, man.
You sue red pill, bro.
No, hey, I'm not reading red pill.
Hey, listen, this is my opportunity.
I disavow and denounce.
You know how everybody was just like, why you got to disavow and denounce them, man?
Yeah, because I don't like when they, yo, big act is just big act.
No, but give them some love, too.
It's like, oh, I fuck with them a little bit.
Yeah, this is a part of life as a man.
You go through this.
I'm fucking with a red pill and eventually you get through it.
Why isn't there like blue?
Like, you say you're blue pill, right?
I'm blue.
Re-pill.
Purple pill.
Purple pill.
Yeah, yeah.
We the mix.
You got some like, yo, hey, listen, why aren't there like communities like that too?
I miss, I rock with everybody.
That's fine.
I'm just saying that there are guys there that are listening to this information and they it's important that they get, I guess, some of it because they're going through these things in life but they're eventually gonna grow out of it.
We all went through the stage where we're like, no dude, i'm gonna be a pickup artist.
That niche, you went through that stage.
No, hold on no, you you went through.
That's right.
That niche is full of people that, from what I look at it, they're old ass people, bro.
They're just.
They're just insults.
Well, a lot of people, there's a lot of people preying on people who are in that stage of life, and my main, only real issue with it is the idea that if you treat a woman poorly to get her to stick around, that makes you an alpha.
I feel like that's actually pretty insecure and that's.
We all do it to a degree.
We've all done it, but that's not actually alpha male behavior and alpha male, be like i'm gonna treat you how I treat you and say, alpha, like who cares, like yo, i'm a man and be the man.
Alpha dude, you're alpha.
Hey, I don't care if people think i'm big alpha beta or big alpha alpha bro, I don't know he's one percent.
No, you are the one.
You're alpha bro, you're high value, i'm only the prize, that's it.
No, you're an alpha, you're the prize.
You are dude.
You look at your shoes man, those are alpha dude.
Look how alpha those shoes are dude.
Are you kidding me?
No, I don't got towards fashion sales, that's all you write.
You do that purposely.
Well like, come on, this guy's crazy, what is in this bro?
This guy I am not really, I ain't mad crazy bro.
This guy said, do you Purposely?
What do you mean by what?
I do not need friends to come up, bro.
But you know how, like, Eminem does that shit where it's like, come on, King.
Can I?
No, come on, let me see these shoes.
You got the off-white.
You got Megatron on your shoes.
Nah, I like these.
Come on, hold on.
Oh, the Neil deGrasse Tyson 12.
Yo, you do.
Let's have a moment of silence for fantastic forms, bro.
For Virgil's Virgil's last.
That's not Virgil, bro.
Yeah, it is.
Say again.
It's off-white, brother.
Damn, you make off-white look bad, bro.
Why did you, why did you got a nigga sad bringing up Virgil, bro?
I'm sorry.
I had to kill a joke.
I know you did.
Motherfucking joke.
Damn.
Okay, listen.
What you got rocking right here?
Just some new balance?
Nah, no nigga with no fucking new balance is about to clown me, bro.
Get the fuck one out of here.
Son, this is how you know.
This is how you know act is.
Hold on.
No actors.
Yeah, you got the white boy fit on, like the white boy married.
I'm white and I'm married, bro.
Right, but what I'm saying is, y'all don't got no drip for me to really put your shoes up.
Bring your shoes up, bro.
Nah, these fucking fly money.
Come on.
I got this.
I'm saying better.
Honestly, D.
I just interviewed Jack Boy.
Look at the bottom of them, though.
I just interviewed Jack Boy.
The new hot shoes, like they be rocking, they got the big ass laces.
Y'all probably wouldn't be into that.
We started that.
White boy started that.
That's the skater shoes.
They don't even go with your fit.
Nigga, I got the purple shirt.
I want to know what's happening.
It looks like you were colourblown.
Imagine that.
That was sad, bro.
No, no.
That was not going to fuck with my sponsorship at all.
No, we don't want to spot.
Can you, come on, can we?
That was just bringing up some people.
Come on, bro.
I need to see these, bro.
Now, this is crazy, dude.
No, I know you like them.
You're wearing them.
Oh, but do you do this shit on purpose?
You know how Eminem, like, and fucking, what's the Adam Sandler?
Like, they try to stay relatable to the regular people by dressing like bums.
Like, do you?
Like, you got.
This guy's crazy.
No.
I know, but you don't dress like a bum because look, you iced out and all that shit.
Hold on, hold on a lot.
I'm going to let you tell them that.
No, but you iced out.
You iced out.
Hold on.
Let me get your mic right.
Let me get your mic right.
I dress like the nigga you should inspire to have his bank account.
Oh, so let me end it up.
I was putting it.
I was giving you the process.
When I step out, I knew I made it.
Bad, bad bad.
I knew I made it.
I knew I made it when I could wear it.
I wore pajamas to the club one time.
I felt so happy for that.
Bro, no, no, I should have.
That's fun.
I wasn't going to go nowhere.
And somebody's like, yo, they have this club.
Like, yo, could you come?
I'm like, bro, I'm not even dressed.
It was like, you're an act.
You can just go in.
You're an act.
It don't matter.
So you're like Mark.
I don't dress.
I don't dress the bitches.
I put on what I want.
I put my little ice on whatever I want to put on.
I'm about to buy some more shit.
You had necklace.
You were dripping.
You got the hoodie, the jeans, the transformers.
You fucking brand new.
To a transformer.
Give me some transformers.
When I hear transform, I think some other shit.
I think someone's had a single marina.
No, but the bottom of these are actually good.
No, no, hold on.
You know what I like these though?
Like, it gives me an extra like pause, like two, three inches.
Let's go.
I fucking die.
Yo, man.
I'm not the insults in there.
I'm five light nine.
I'm telling you, if I was six feet.
I know you lied about your height because you said I'm five light nine.
No, no, no.
I said I'm five, nine.
I'm five nine.
But with those, you're 5'11 at least.
Bro, if I was like six foot, forget it, man.
Forget it.
Forget it, bro.
Come on, man.
Fuck paint and clout, man.
I'm really getting it out of here, man.
Okay, boy, let's go.
Nah, man, but life is good, man.
Life is good.
Life is good for you, too.
I'm not sure.
Honestly, I got a new balance, bro.
I'm told, I'm humble, bro.
Yo, truth be told, I really don't give a fuck too much about like clothing and shit like that.
I really wear mostly the same thing every day when I'm in the house.
I really wear, I only bought jewelry and wear it to like, you know, because now you're a brand and people want to see that you made it, bro.
A little bit, people want to see the success.
Unfortunately, when it comes to like the community that like my brand actually appeals to, so it's not like I'm wearing it for some vain effort.
You know what I mean?
You do it for them, bro.
But you have to put on an image.
Now, the only thing I always said, like, the cars I got, I want for myself.
I don't give the fuck what nobody says, but like, when I get in public now, I'll be a little bit more flashy just to let people know that, you know, what I'm one of the very proud people that came up in independent media and hip-hop.
And I'm at the very top of the shit.
So I come out and I gotta let everybody know.
That's a fact.
So who are you trying to impress with their shoes?
I just want to be three inches taller, my nigga.
I can't do this.
He's trying to get closer to space.
That's why he got real, man.
Ask somebody who made it yourself, and I dig that up.
And I don't want Hennessy Marie looking down on me.
You know what I mean?
I gotta be yo.
Yo, y'all.
How tall is Tennessee Marie, bro?
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
You like tall?
No, I don't like tall girls.
You don't like tall girls.
You like tall girls?
Yeah.
I like some height.
Huh?
I like some height.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
I feel like if I'm walking next to you, Dove Loves.
Maybe it's insecurity.
I feel like I'm like a little kid who I'm walking next to you.
Like you just hold my hand, like, come on, little nigga.
You know what I mean?
No.
You don't think Henny Marie would do that to you?
Nah, she would.
Bro, why you keep messing with me?
No, but you do, you do.
You're curious about how she sucks it off, though.
No.
Oh, let's switch topics, man.
How marriage life, man.
Yo, marriage is fire.
Marriage is the best.
Y'all got to get married.
You're married too.
Locked in, man.
Everybody married there, bro.
Why not?
Because he's scared, bro.
Yep.
He's a scary ass.
Like, all y'all on paperwork type shit are just like, man, paperwork.
I'm one of the niggas like, yeah, we married.
He's married, man.
Nah, nah, nah.
No, you got to do paperwork, boy.
Pre-free up.
Pre-dup?
Nah, bro.
Nope.
Nope.
What?
Wilder.
You ready to tell your girl you love her yet?
Nah, it's my shorty, man.
I fuck with her.
You know what I mean?
She made a mistake.
You sound like a teammate on the AAU, bro.
Come on, bro.
That's good.
You know, she loves you, bro.
She goes outside with you.
You got them fucking sneakers on.
She let you stomp around all my sneakers.
All my sneakers.
First of all, my feet, little, like, I got fucked up feet type shit.
What do you mean?
That's what's why I like it.
Yo, let's look at him, bro.
He loves feet.
He loves fucking shit.
Let's look at him, bro.
I put my shit out.
Nah, nah, nah, that's cool.
Yo, bust it out.
Nah, he's about to get ricked up.
Chill out, bust it up, bro.
Bust it out.
Chill out, bro.
Chill out.
He got no doubt on this TV, man.
That nigga put his suck up.
That's a question.
I took the male image, though.
It's cold now, and I ain't started lotioning the lower extremity.
I can tell that shit look like LeBron James, bro.
I'm celebrating this.
Like, my shit, my shit on point.
No, no, your feet aren't that bad, bro.
I know.
You got all right, feet.
I'll send you a picture or two.
Yo, only two.
Of course.
Send me both feet, bro.
Don't just send me your best foot.
Send you them curls or not?
Nah, I don't like them curled.
That's weird.
Oh, word.
Yeah, yeah.
They got to be flat.
I want to see some arch.
Nah, I could like make them kind of webbed where they just spread them all out.
Spread them out.
Why would you do that?
I don't know.
Why would you do that?
Who have you done that for?
You sent Henry some picks.
You said Henny some pics.
You done.
You said Henry some wild boys.
Yo.
Henny Marie.
She got DM you, bro.
She got a DM me.
I watched you.
Yo, I watched our podcast and I watched a special and I'm like, this is one thing I try to like incorporate what I do.
You got to continually bring this back.
You got to bring it back.
They won't get off of Hanny Marie.
You brought her back up.
No, you didn't.
Remember she left you the voicemail?
She's like, where you come back?
Nah, man.
That's what sucks.
There's nothing wrong with it, bro.
It's fine, bro.
It's fine.
Henny Marie, like, Henry, if she got you, she was post-hot.
She was post-hot.
You didn't know.
You never got head from the bottom.
I feel like maybe one of y'all, like, yo, y'all be in New York a lot.
Like, y'all probably.
What does that mean?
Yeah, what does that mean?
Bro, y'all probably see some funny shit over here.
Yeah, we see a lot of funny shit.
You saw what we were watching earlier when you were getting bricked up, nutty in your jeans.
I think back in the days, I think back in the day, you caught a little top from one of these.
And I think maybe one of these guys.
Oh, you think that they caught head from a trends?
Yeah, he got it.
Who do you think's more likely?
Oh, yeah, he's fucking one of them.
That's called, but don't say it.
No, I just like nail art.
He likes nail art.
The same way you think blue.
I don't think it's straight.
I just like nail art.
We know that.
No, no.
He described it so well.
It's like nail art.
I like nail.
I like it.
I think it's fine.
It's like the same way how you think that's purple.
Like, you know.
No, no, no, no.
I can say this, bro.
The brand is called purple.
Oh, so it matches.
Read it, read it.
So that makes sense.
Hold on.
Some letters.
Hold on.
All right.
Cool.
By the way, I'm also colorblind.
So come on, don't shame me.
Don't put it on.
I'm Miles.
Are you?
Yeah.
Oh, see, so you left the house.
You really thought you was matching today.
When you thought, I knew I was matching from here.
I just want to wear the shoes.
I got to get my height up, man.
I ain't going to lie.
Yo, I'm thinking about getting that knee surgery.
Like, the joint you could extend it.
Come on now.
You do that?
You ain't heard about that?
What about?
Shit, little game.
I heard she said.
She got another exception.
She's a banana clip, bro.
Yo, she puts in the banana clip, bro.
You got to be very careful, ass.
Real talk.
She don't play, man.
Haney don't play.
What's up?
Throat crack.
I'm going to be honest.
The nail thing, I would normally call it gay, but I've seen young boy do it.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's like the most gangster.
That's a new gangster.
Al Gangster, bro.
Niggas, when you're secure, you good, bro.
There's nothing you can tell me.
Exactly.
And he got the gloss on it.
Oh, come on.
You already know what time it is.
What you do?
A tongue ring?
You can't be like, I got these.
Yo, Uzi just got the belly button ring.
Yeah, he did.
Uzi could do whatever he wants.
Belly button ring.
Nah, I'm cool.
I'm not there yet.
You see where Uzi's at?
Yeah.
That's what Uzi can do whatever you want.
You gotta get one more software up there.
Nigga, you big act.
You should have the whole fucking mini petty.
You should have the whole shit.
Yo, big act needs a belly button ring, bro.
Belly button ring?
Yeah, nigga.
Big act with a crop top.
Crop top.
Like ice spice.
Or some kid cutty shit.
Nah, ice spice.
You need to dress like ice spice.
Spice is hot in the streets.
Hot.
Big act, belly button ring.
Ice spice.
Get your munch in Miami.
What's your name?
Marie.
I don't sound Maria much.
Yo, before we get out of here, though, Marie's a munch.
Hold on, I feel like we've talked children.
This time we've talked the least about actual hip-hop.
My man Drake dropping 21 Savage.
That's a goat.
What's out about GOAT?
I know you're a stand, right?
Alboat album of the year.
Album of the year.
I feel it.
I feel it.
What you feel?
Yeah, I fuck with Drake.
No, but like, what do you feel about the energy?
I'm a little critical coming into this time.
Ice Spice Platforming Stories00:08:30
Watch.
He got two weak albums for me.
So, but what was weak albums?
CLB?
Please be in Honesty Number Month?
Yeah.
Nah, CLB was our weak.
You can't name two songs.
I don't.
Name two.
Apple bottom jeans.
Okay, exactly.
That's the same thing.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's like you got two weak albums, and we're comparing it to Drake projects.
So two week projects compared to his projects.
Yeah, not compared to everybody.
I think he's got to drop a banger.
He has to.
He has to drop a banger.
If this was man, I think what we're also seeing, like, yo, Drake, the last time Drake put up some sales on the board was 200,000.
So you think they'll do more than that?
No, no, they have to, but Taylor Swift is at 1.5 million.
That's different.
You know who the hottest artist in the world is, though?
BTS.
Bad Bunny.
Bad Bunny, man.
That's that.
I've been learning Spanish for like six weeks now.
Can you?
Do you know any?
I mean, hola, comu estas.
Fire.
That's all you need to know, really.
Yeah, you got to Quanto when he's paying the hope.
Nah, this guy.
I've seen you in Medellin, bro.
You got to say, me gusa chicas.
Call him a bit.
I told Columbia to speak like Portuguese.
Come on, bro.
They speak Portuguese.
No, Brazilian, bro.
It's close to Brazil.
Yeah, it's close to Brazil.
I've never been there.
Come on.
You colorblind about countries too, bro.
That's crazy.
Come on, bro.
Come on.
You got to stop.
Wait, did I just hear that?
I just heard that.
Yeah, bro.
You paid for some boxing.
Nah, bro.
He's been putting this on me so heavy.
I know he has like a fun girl?
No, I do.
Okay.
But before you had a girl, you paid for some boxes.
Yo, you seem too surprised.
Like you thought this was an industry.
It's just though, I see, sometimes I see the girls that y'all be with, and I'm like, ugh.
So this is it.
This is an innate jealousy coming out.
So you're saying that.
Yo, fuck out of here.
Yo, I'm saying like, hey, yo, yo, yes.
That's all my man is.
My man is stuck with the New York Sixes, and he's seen some nines and tens and saying, no way they're fucking them without paying.
Oh, he's finished.
Stop it.
Stop it, bro.
I'm saying that.
I'm saying that if you are looking at the same person you got to fight with.
Totally.
So you're saying that they look worse than the regular girls, but someone would have to pay?
You're not making sense.
I'm just saying.
I'm going to say this like, yo, bro, that's a good point.
How y'all fucking with super models?
You must be paying.
That makes sense.
You're paying to fuck ugly girls.
Yeah, hop.
I mean, that's super insulting, bro.
That's really, you don't want to take the L on it.
Yo, he's on the gram like, yo, how the fuck is big at fucking these horses?
You know what I mean?
If you think there's something special, right?
If you're saying this is not the norm, and I'm saying, okay, if it's not the norm, well, why do you think that these women are getting paid for?
And I asked you about the quality of your women, and it seems like you're saying they're out of the norm.
It's either we're paying for them because they look beautiful or we're paying for them because they're ugly.
Oh, shit.
Which it would be a losing strategy for, like, yo, if you catch a three, I got you with a band.
You know what I mean?
Yo, you catch a three.
Oh, my God.
You know what I mean?
Can we talk about Henny Marie again?
Jesus Christ, man.
Y'all talk about girls without dicks.
Henny Marie is going to be in your DMs.
That's not all.
Oh, shit.
Did you ever spice it up and bring Henny Marie in the bedroom?
No.
Stop trying to get other people into my bedroom with my wife, bro.
We have a good Christian out here.
Henny Marie, it's like the perfect mix.
Listen.
Yo, all I'm trying to say is, act, right now, you're in a situation where you're the prize.
Okay?
Henny Marie is known as the what?
The.
It's not like it's a question for you.
Are you the top or the bottom, nigga?
Bottom.
You're the bottom.
What does it say?
Is the bottom the person giving it or taking it?
Say again?
Is the bottom of the person giving it or taking it?
Taking it, dude.
Damn.
So you have Henny Marie railing you.
I mean, if you're gonna mess with a person with a penis, what are you gonna do with it?
You're gonna do it to say, fuck it?
That makes no sense.
Mark, what you think, man?
You pulled it up real quick.
Like, what would you think?
Like, well, I had the bookmarked.
If you're gonna mess with a think about it, if you're gonna mess with a trans person, right?
You're not gonna do it to have sex with them in a hole that you can have sex with women.
You're doing it because you want to use the parts.
And I'm not picking of this dude, but what's the guy name?
You get a Ferrari, you're gonna keep him in first gear?
You're gonna let that shit rip.
Nah, think about it.
Something's gonna rip.
Yo, DJ Mr. C.
Yeah, yeah.
Back in the day, he had a whole thing.
Charlie used to go at him.
He was caught with a couple.
You know, I mean, no, one of those.
Transgenders, transgenders.
Well, yeah.
Transgenders.
And apparently, he never fucked him.
He only got the head.
Yeah, that shit is wild gay.
That's so gay.
That's gay.
That's so gay.
That's the gayest shit ever.
You don't think that's super gay, bro?
Hey, listen, man.
I can't judge a man on what he wants, man.
Nah, if you're going to be with a trans and you're not even going to suck her dick, that's gay.
Pause.
Pause.
Why is that pause?
Why is that pause?
You hate that guy getting heads.
That's what it is.
But why is that pause?
Like, if you're going to be with some, you make it.
Because that person for their dick because you're not going to suck it.
I can't.
I don't understand his, you know, his, how his preferences go.
Maybe he just likes a beard running against that.
So you just like knowing they got a dick?
I don't know.
That's so weird.
I got to get that nigga.
Why are you hating on a guy getting head?
Yeah, why you hate on him, bro?
You could get head from a girl.
You're specifically doing with the trans for a reason.
Yeah.
You play with that dick.
You know what I'm saying?
At?
I don't know what you're saying.
Come on, bro.
Let me tell you something.
You're not going to be able to break up a fight with Hennessy Marie and her homies.
That's what I'm saying.
You're going to have to try.
No, I'm the bronze.
She took slammed the shit out of me and she gets to scrapping.
Wish that happened to us.
Nah.
Come on.
You said she did.
You said that story like it happened.
You did say it like it happened.
You said your back hurt a little.
Shout out to Henny Marie and Act going live on the stream very soon.
Yo, you know what's so funny?
What?
This is the only platform we could talk this much about that community.
Why?
Why?
Oh, hell.
Yo, it would be labeled and just like people would just be like, yo, maybe I do believe this shit.
What's wrong with it?
Nah, nah, this shit didn't know what's jokes.
Son, if you really fuck with the community, you would blow her up the same way you blew up.
Like, love.
I told her.
I told you about her on my bring her on the stream.
But I think it might be a little bit foul, though.
I think if you're going to do that, you should just be honest and just like you shouldn't deceive her.
I don't like the deception.
I think that that's wrong.
Yeah, so tell her.
You should.
Tell her on stream.
No, well, I probably would have her on stream.
You should.
You know what I mean?
But I think you probably hinting towards some sexual trip.
Like, I don't have no problem talking to, you know, her.
No one was going there.
I mean, you took it there, but I'm just saying, nobody was going there.
There's nothing wrong with you, dude.
I definitely.
What do you think would happen?
Like, just even talking to her, do you think you start grabbing the mic or something?
You'd just be too fucking horned up.
No, no, it's interesting, but here's a point I was a thing, though.
I think if you agree that she should have told men before, if you're complicit in helping her expose men, because that's what she's doing.
Well, I don't think you should be complicit in that.
And I don't think it's nice, six.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
So if you platform her, that's what that's.
If you platform her, she wants to tell you the story of how I don't think that's good.
I don't think that's good.
So she deceived dudes, right?
Those are private moments.
But that's what I'm saying.
So you can't really have that conversation, at least with her, without her basically explaining how she violated privacy and the right of.
I don't know if it's, is it a right for dudes, though?
I feel like I think so.
I think so.
I don't know, man.
Yeah, don't you think?
Would you want to know?
Yes, I would.
Yeah, I'd like to know.
100%.
At least I know the decision.
I feel like Willie has some experience here because we don't know what that is.
I only fuck dudes.
Yeah, he just wants to make that clear.
You know what I got to start doing?
When people are coming here, sneaker shopping with you?
No, no, I would never buy these sneakers.
Come on, bro.
Let's white people wear shoes that look like.
Let's go to Flight Club.
Only white people wear shoes that look like they're not.
Who shop for sneakers?
Competing Without Chicks00:04:42
SpaceX?
Neiman Marcus.
I ain't gonna lie to that.
Only Neeman Marks.
How's it going?
I like that.
I don't buy shit.
I stopped going to Footlock a long time ago, nigga.
Nehemia Marcus.
Yeah.
I go in the Versace thing.
I just add 30 of them to the fucking cart.
I don't even look.
I just add everything.
Yeah, we know you don't look.
Oh, yeah.
We know you don't look.
That probably.
All right, well, maybe we'll start looking.
We should start looking.
No, you know, we just got to look when I walk out of the house.
Wait, are you going to the you going to the house?
You buying a new house?
Huh?
Are you?
Wait, how many cribs you got now?
Can I pop?
I want to pocket watch you.
I didn't buy to get a new house, though.
Okay.
You want to know how much money I have?
Yeah, I do.
Badly.
Okay.
You want to know how much cash or how much I have total?
I want to know what's probably a good net worth for you right now.
Badly.
Like, I think about these things.
Yo, somebody said money they were making recently, and I didn't sleep tonight.
I kid you not.
I'm obsessed.
I don't even mention it.
I bleeped at one paper.
I can't get it.
I can't get a satisfaction.
No, no, I seen a network.
Go like this and then just tell him.
Like, you put your hand.
I won't say it.
Come on.
Come on.
No, no, no.
Come on, come on.
Hennessy.
No, I quickly looked at my shit and I was just like, all right, I just got to make sure we're in the same ballpark.
And were you?
No.
No, you weren't.
He didn't sleep then.
No, OnlyFans was an OnlyFans?
No, they mentioned another.
Well, I could say that was Adam.
That nigga Adam was just like, yo, you said I made a million a month from no jumper.
Yep.
Then I make another million from fucking bitches on the side.
I'm like, that's 2 million.
Whoa, hold on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's an NBA contract.
Because I got to compete with this shit without fucking chicks.
So I only got media.
I'm like, try to do the math.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm like, all right, how am I going to get there?
You know what I mean?
But I'm glad for him.
No, I am.
I am.
Honestly, I am.
I love Adam.
That's NFL quarterback money.
24 million a year is crazy.
He's working for it, though.
Nah, he is.
He's fucking for that shit.
He's fucking for that money.
That's great.
That's good for him.
I'm concerned for your health, bro.
Shit.
I'm only concerned for your health.
I'm really concerned for your health.
You saw Kevin Samuels pass.
Kevin Samuels?
Yeah, I think he was popping some crazy niggas.
You drink almost every night.
Nah, he didn't die from no Henny.
That nigga died from like, he popped like a rhino or something.
I'm gonna keep it a deal.
He did?
Man, he had to, bro.
What's a rhino?
Republican and name only?
Nah, I think he popped like he had a bad bitch with him.
So he was some crazy.
Oh, oh, wow, Pop with him joints.
Yeah.
Probably was hard as like the SAT.
Gave it a joint, beat it out the frame that night.
Next morning.
You know what I mean?
What's the best sex you ever had?
Definitely on the Henny.
But you know, Henny dicks sometimes won't be like it's best for me.
Wait, Henny Dick?
Nah, Henny Dick.
No, no, Henny.
Well, pause.
You told me that Henny just makes her.
Every time he jacks it, you can see this thing comes off like a great writer for jokes.
Like he sees the opening and he's like, let me build it.
We asked you the best sex you ever had, and the first thing you brought up was Henny.
Okay.
But off the Henny, but like, Henny, yeah, off the Henny Marie.
But what are we doing?
It's just not going to not be funny.
No, no, hold up.
What the best sex you had?
Why was she so good?
You remember?
Fucked.
What's the best sex you have?
Really?
We're talking about you and the best sex you had, and you brought up a bad thing.
Yeah, I guess, bro.
Yeah, it's about you.
So, none of y'all want to, like, you look like you probably like this some shrooms.
Have you been on the ayahuasca with a girl?
No, no, I've only fucked my wife.
So he's only had sex with one woman.
Yeah, no, no, I know that.
Well, but you, you took that ayahuasca.
I never have taken ayahuasca.
I heard you talking to Madnigs about it.
I've talked to them, but I haven't done it myself.
You didn't do it?
No.
I was curious about it for a little bit.
You did a little Coke back in the day, man.
No, I tried Coke for the first time.
I was like Coke nostrils, man.
You know what other group of people has a good nose for?
I don't know what you're talking about.
But anyway, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what's going on.
But Henny Marie, so what happened?
No, no, you never took a Molly, bro.
No, I love Molly.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, one of the crazy things when I've been on Molly, did Henny Marie split your shit?
Streaming Money Distribution00:10:19
Yo, I don't know this person.
No, she's going to be so tight.
And by the way, Henny Marie, I respect you.
Why do you think she's tight?
Yeah.
Because I can't climb.
So you think she's loose.
I never said she's loose.
No, I'm asking you.
I said, why do you think she's tight?
Yeah, you did say she was loose.
I said, why do you think she's tight?
What do you think she is?
I think she's tight.
I think she wants to be incredibly tight.
Really?
Absolutely, dude.
Like, how tight?
Like, how would you measure tightness?
Yo, why is he making that noise?
He won't even make a noise.
That's you.
Yeah, that's a hallucination.
You're hallucinating, bro.
That's how fucking hauling it up you are, right?
What's going on?
What do you mean?
She's making that macaroni sound and shit like that.
Shit.
What?
Henny Marie's out there?
No, she's not.
Oh.
So you're in right now.
I know exactly where she is, bro.
Oh, shit.
I don't even want to know.
Where you live?
Alpine, New Jersey or something?
Hell no.
Anyway.
Anyway.
Not at all.
All of the rappers, all of the rappers that got mad at me when, because I went viral because I said some shit about like, I was like, some rappers dusty and broke.
It was tight.
Wait, why?
Why?
Really, I was talking about one dude, like, you know, so some rapper who is really dusty and broke.
Like, he was commenting on, he was commenting.
It was like Youngboy and some other rappers.
He was talking about their deal.
You know, NBA Youngboy is like really popping right now.
No, he is.
But he was basically saying that they're dumb business-wise.
And I was just like, man, it's it, like, for example, in a podcast game, yo, if, and this is one thing that's that's why I do like Vlad, like even in the media game.
If Vlad sees anything or gets an offer, Vlad will call me and be like, yo, this is what's going on.
He's passing the ball.
Wow.
He'll tell me like, you should, hey, you know what's just became available that I'm taking advantage of?
Yo, you should look into taking advantage of yourself.
I respect the fuck out of my personal life.
That's why I would never disrespect them.
There's certain types of people in certain industries.
It's so competitive or so, it's like, yeah, they don't share.
If I tell you, you might get bigger than me or whatever the case is, right?
And rappers do that a lot.
Like, a rapper will all sign the same deal, and then eight years later, you see all of them complain about the same deal.
Instead of information, share information, like, hey, you know, if you do this, you could get a better situation.
So this is why when they're all complaining, no, don't blame those people, bro.
Don't blame them.
In reality, y'all just fucking stupid.
You know what I mean?
Like, y'all are all, you don't communicate.
You don't, like, I'm not saying unionized because I know that won't necessarily happen.
But if y'all just share information, some of the older artists, they have signed the same deals that these new guys are still signing.
You don't even tell them, like, yo, hey, you have the internet to your advantage.
You have this that's going for you.
You know what you could negotiate?
Don't take that deal.
I took that deal because I didn't have the reach without them, without all of this, whatever.
You should probably ask for this.
By the way, the marketing ain't in this, so don't even have them do that.
You outsource it.
No information shared.
Every rapper get fucked.
And when I seen an older rapper trying to shit on a newer rapper, that's when I made the comment.
I was like, yo, man, basically, dude's dusty and broke and said that.
The whole entire older conglomerate in hip-hop were mad at me.
They're like, yo, you don't respect.
I don't know why.
It was like, yo, you don't respect the origins of rap.
And I'm like, I didn't say that.
So you said dusty and broke.
I said, well, they didn't even let me finish.
Fuck that.
You are the, like, they were going crazy.
And who specifically?
Or a specific person?
Yeah, L.O. Kooje was going crazy.
And he was probably furthest.
And LL's had so much success in his career after.
So I knew LL live like approximately the same time.
I ain't trying to stitch on both of us.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Like, I've definitely told him.
But he's had like huge TV success.
He's one of the most successful motherfuckers in this shit.
I'm definitely not talking about him.
And also, I've never seen him critical about the newer artists and shit on them without at least, you know.
Well, what's interesting is a lot of the newer artists are signed to labels that are from the older artists.
So then why are they still continuing those deals?
Not all of them.
I'm saying a lot of.
Well, I mean, also, you don't know.
Like, the rap game when it comes to like, you know, signing deals is like a Ponzi scheme.
Like, I was using the example like last night or the night before about like Lil Wayne.
Like when Lil Wayne was going through his thing with Burnman, it was kind of acknowledged that, yo, you know, you ain't finna get no money out of this deal.
You know how you get your money?
Go sign Wayne and Nikki.
That's how you get paid.
Right?
So it was kind of like, it was put into people's minds to say, hey, of course you're not going to get money out of this deal.
But we'll renegotiate and give you your own label.
We'll give you your own scheme to run.
You get what I mean?
And everyone was just cool with that.
Right?
Well, Wayne did okay with Nikki and Drake, right?
Yeah, but eventually he ended up suing Birdman saying, well, but shit, what about the money that was owed to me?
Yeah.
Right?
So now artists are becoming more, they're becoming smarter in the sense of, well, rather than wait to get to that point, you know, the shelf life of rapper is really short.
You might not be hot in four or five years.
Like, think about Meek Mill right now, right?
Meek Mill's career was pretty, it's long, but now he's trying to pivot into the label owner.
It's not at the peak of his career and he's, you know, it's not working as well, right?
So if you had to, let's just pretend, right, that he was not getting the most he could have got out of his deal and he waited to now, to now he could focus on his label to get paid.
Well, you wasted all your best years without really getting the fruits of your labor.
And that's why, you know, the executives, you know, one of the things I learned in the game is like, man, these rappers, like, yeah, they throw out these little rings and chains or whatever the cases, and people love it.
But people really getting the money is like, you know, they're getting like a boatload, man.
Like these executives.
You know, I think about Scooter Braun.
I always tell people, I'm like, I try to give kids the knowledge.
I'm like, if really you want the money, don't be the rapper.
If you just want to be the guy who's on stage, getting the applause, be the rapper.
Scooter Braun bought Taylor Swift's Masters.
Damn, right?
Yeah.
And he was Justin Bieber's manager, getting 20% from that, doing a bunch of other smart shit, getting enough equity, bought that shit.
Taylor started crying for years.
Oh, you want to know something else about that that nobody talks about?
She said no to the deal originally.
Oh, wow.
To which deal?
Buying her own shit.
Oh, really?
She was like, no, it's too expensive.
Oh, but she went back trying to do it, though, right?
No, no, then she was upset when Scooter bought it.
What's the timeline?
So she goes to buy it.
She can't because she doesn't want to.
She said that it's too expensive, the deal, whatever.
Then Scooter buys it.
Then she makes this big fucking deal about a man owning a woman's heart.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.
She did what Dave Spell did with Commissioner.
And I always say there's a few artists that know they're in that realm that they could do it.
We have three, Kanye, Dave Chappelle, and Taylor Swift.
And Taylor Swift is doing it right now because she does some beautiful finesse.
She knows how to do it.
Explain the finesse.
This is actually when she's re-recording all the songs.
Not only that, so she re-recorded all these songs that she now owns the masters of that because she didn't buy, which is by the way, a great discount, right?
And also it kind of looks, I think I see this article recently that Scooter Brawl was like, his biggest regret with buying it because eventually if the artist is going to re-record it and they have that much cache and clout to continue, like people bought the other album just as much.
You didn't really win, right?
But with this new album, she's like bringing back the experience that hasn't existed in music.
Like I always compare music and movies.
The movie industry actually survived the piracy.
Like they were like, yo, well, we're just going to enrich the experience of going to the street.
And yeah, people aren't just going to keep downloading movies illegally and watching at home.
They're still going to, we're going to survive.
Reclining seats and all of that.
Yeah, yeah.
What the music industry did, they were like, well, we can't battle this shit.
Let's just go to streaming.
That was a coping method, right?
But in reality, if you think about how much streams you have to get and how money is getting broken up and just like distributed across like hundreds of thousands of artists, you're not really getting the most out of a fan base.
And Taylor Swift is like the last one who says, yo, I'm recording a new album, but I'm putting four songs on the vinyl version.
And also as a collector's medition, also, there's four vinyls.
And if you're really a fan, you're going to have the red, blue, pink, and yellow version.
And only the biggest fans are going to have all four.
And now you got to go find all four.
And also, let me give you another incentive.
If you want to get access to my tour that's happened in 2023, the only way to unlock those ticket sales is buying the vinyl.
She sold 1.1 million CDs, vinyls, sets, and just digital albums.
I mean, I think when you look at what everyone else is doing in the music game, it's just that they're relying on streams, which is great.
But you know, like you put your special for sale for a while, right?
And I think the perfect mix is you want people to buy your product, but you also want it available to be streamed.
Exactly.
Right.
But if they only stream it, it doesn't really establish a value for you.
Yes.
If you could show some sales, like, oh, people will spend these money.
Yeah.
It's worth a lot.
100%.
You know exactly how much you're worth.
So when you go to a streaming company, they have to match that.
Bare minimum.
And by the way, you know, the amount of cachet she's wielded, she literally told streaming used to pay out at a very smaller rate because there was an antiquated contract for streaming just got in.
And she made us think about it.
She was writing letters.
And it's the only, that's what I'm saying.
She has like that Kanye, Dave Chappelle influence where the companies were responding to her letters.
Like Spotify and Apple were like, hey, it's not our fault.
It's your labels.
And they were all pointing the fingers, but it got solved where the money got increased a little bit, but it's all because of Taylor Swift.
She's just a fucking, you know what I mean?
She's a visionary in the game.
Yeah.
Believe it or not.
And she just got an unbelievable fan base.
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Yeah.
He really rides with her and appreciates her.
And I think rappers just don't have that.
They're just too scared to even try to do it.
I talked to a couple rappers.
I'm like, yo, so why aren't y'all doing this?
They're like, well, Taylor submits her album six months before to press up that many vinyls.
They're like, yo, if Drake submits his album six weeks before, that shit's leaked.
So, and it, and Drake's album being leaked affects him way more than Taylor's leak.
So if Taylor's album gets leaked three months before it drops, she's still getting the same sales.
Because those fans have been conditioned to the experience and they feel it's way more than the music.
While you're just trying to listen to Drake to hear the hot song for the moment, then you can go bump it in the club.
Yeah.
Completely different ballgame.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, shout out, Taylor.
Listen, I got to go.
I got to fly down to Atlanta.
Act, you're the motherfucking man.
One of the most entertaining people that speaks into a mic.
I mean, sincerely, Nona, let me big you up a little bit.
One of the most entertaining people that speaks into a mic today.
Unbelievable what you've crafted for yourself.
And it's amazing.
Like when I see you in the rap lyrics from today's premiere rappers, that's something that you've achieved on your own.
And obviously there's people that help you.
Nobody does anything great by themselves, but you've built that shit and you should be incredibly proud of yourselves for it.
And I appreciate you so much for coming on the show and giving us some real good down and dirty shit talk.
So thank you, my brother.
Hey, at least you're going to Atlanta, the home of Hennessy Marie.