Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Kanye West's Adidas termination following anti-Semitic remarks, debating corporate motives versus consumer backlash. They analyze Brittney Griner's Russian imprisonment, contrasting her drug offense with domestic cases while noting her oligarch owner's potential influence. The hosts then explore Lionel Messi's emotional impact on fans, substance comparisons referencing Dr. Huberman, and dating app disclosure norms regarding identity. Finally, they contrast Marvel's Thor narrative depth against DC's simpler villains, speculating James Gunn's appointment was a strategic acquisition after a calculated campaign to lower his value. Ultimately, the episode highlights how corporate decisions, personal controversies, and media strategies intertwine in modern culture. [Automatically generated summary]
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Adidas Drops Anti-Semite Kanye00:13:34
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant.
Kanye got dropped by Adidas.
How do we feel about it?
Expected, right?
Yeah.
You can't be the German sports company holding on to the anti-Semite for that long.
The fact that it took this long is actually kind of like if you think about Germany's entire thing right now, like their whole marketing for the past seven years has been, hey, we're not with that shit anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Kanye is just saying all this wild shit about the Jews, DEF CON 3, and they're just like, well, let's see how they're going to hear that.
I can't believe Germany let us stay on this.
Was he working with Adidas when he said slavery was a choice?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I've seen comments about.
It's like, yo, why when he was talking to black people, nobody had to rethink their relationships?
Why didn't they drop him then?
That's what I don't know.
So that's, he was, nah, go on, Al.
Go on, Al.
I'm just saying.
Because the Jews control the fucking banks.
And the soccer club.
Andrew's back.
I was just kidding, guys.
It's Halloween.
That was my costume.
Whoa, God.
Okay.
No, go.
Why did they not drop him then?
When slavery was a choice.
I don't think the outrage from everyone collectively was as loud as it was.
It was loud from black people, but not anyone else.
Interesting.
I have positive theory.
Kanye being black left other people not knowing how to turn me on, boy.
Positively.
I was like, I got this.
This is my shit.
This is what I learned.
Positive something in you.
He keeps talking like.
I started giving them googly eyes and shit.
I'm like, oh, okay.
Talk to me now.
Positive.
If I may posit this theory.
Kanye being black left non-black people who are already like, I don't know how I'm supposed to deal with black issues.
I don't know what's okay and what's not.
Most people are like, this guy's out of his mind.
But I think objective people were like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.
Yo, that's interesting.
It's like black people can be racist towards black people in a way more acceptable way.
Like Jews can make Jew jokes.
Jews can say bad shit about Jews.
Maybe the Jewish community is saying that's fucked up.
But for whatever reason, it seems more distasteful when one group is accusing another group of something or being mean to another group.
And you've seen it with these NBA team owners.
The dude of Phoenix Sun said the M-word, sell your team.
Sterling, out.
Exactly.
Right.
And canceled by other Jews, mind you.
If Jews own all the basketball teams and they're seeing these other Jews do some racist shit and they're kicking them the fuck out, what happened to that loyalty?
Yeah.
Why aren't the boys coming together?
Right, right.
You know what I mean?
So it is kind of interesting.
I think what's so funny about this situation is Kanye is going like, see, look, see, see who's really in control?
And it's like, brother, this happens to every single person that has ties to a major corporation that is afraid of being radioactive because of the actions of one person.
That's all this is.
Do these big corporations really give a fuck about the average person?
No, they got little kids sewing together their clothes.
They don't give a fuck.
What they care is if the world is going, is Adidas an anti-Semitic company?
And the consumer, it's in the consumer's face to say, do I want to support this?
That sweatshop shit, it's behind closed doors.
We all hear about it.
None of us really want to know.
We don't bring it up.
Then we can benefit.
It helps us.
And it bets.
Exactly.
It helps us.
Is Amazon killing the mom and pop stores?
Sure.
Absolutely.
It ain't my mom and pop.
You know what I mean?
I get my shit cheaper and delivered right to my eyes.
Even if it was, I'm going to probably keep buying because it's cheaper everywhere else.
They beat them in every way.
iPhones, every one of us got a slave machine.
Little kids in China, wherever making it.
And we're just like, I don't see it.
Going on drink champs and saying anti-Semitic shit.
I cannot escape.
It was fucked up.
I know that they make it.
Yeah.
We know, but we don't see.
It's the video.
Do you remember Ray Rice?
You don't know?
I don't know.
Oh, it's the Ray Rice when he was dragging his girl around.
Yeah, we knew he hit his wife, but when we saw it, it just affects us differently.
That's just what it is.
And it's a shitty thing about humans, but we can be willfully ignorant very easily if we don't see it.
Yeah.
Once we see it, it's different.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just think it's, I don't think it's that shocking what's happening to him.
Yeah, I can't believe that he's shocked by it.
He feels like it's some sort of like justification for what he's saying this whole time.
It's possible he's doing it intentionally to get out of the contract.
That's okay.
So I was talking to somebody that we know, and he was like, this is actually Kanye's goal, but he didn't probably, he probably didn't think that he was going to become this radioactive and that might hurt his long-term vision, right?
He's having some trouble.
Exactly.
I mean, if you see it, he's on Drink Champs going like, I can even say anti-Semitic shit and Adidas won't drop me.
He's trying to get out.
This is the assumption.
He's trying to get out of the Adidas contract.
He's daring Adidas to drop them.
Because why does he want to get out of the Adidas contract?
Because he is go-go.
Well, he feels that he's built Yeezy up to a billion-dollar brand.
Now he no longer needs to be shackled to Adidas and have them tell him what he can or can't do.
And make the knockoffs of his shit.
And make a knockoff decision.
And he wants to get that shoe revenue, I'm sure, probably.
So now here's the thing: he says all these crazy things.
He gets out of the contract.
Right now, he has a royalty deal with Adidas, right?
So they got to pay him.
But what's beautiful about the deal he got with Adidas is that they make all his shit.
They have the factories.
They have the stores.
They have the distribution, right?
They have all the websites.
They have everything set up.
Making a factory, getting a factory to make your shit, getting all those SKUs done, getting all these things made.
He has thousands of employees at his hands at Adidas.
Yeah.
Right.
You remove that.
Kanye is just that kooky, creative guy that goes on all the podcasts that has all these ideas, but who knows how to execute it.
Yeah, he's an idea man.
He always needs daddy, like you said.
He admits he's an idea man.
And that's why when he tries to do things by himself, he lost $53 million.
When he did the fashion thing by himself, he lost all the money.
When he partners with somebody who's a great businessman, all of a sudden, he can create some absolutely amazing things.
He's done a great job in the music world.
He's done an unbelievable job in the fashion world.
I'm sure that he would continue to do great in whatever business endeavor he got into with the creative vision and someone who is all about that business.
Because Kanye's the type of person that's going to say, make these fucking sneakers.
And then they're going to come back and he's going, you know what?
I'm not feeling those anymore.
Let's scrap all the sneakers.
You need someone at a corporation that goes, that's not how things work.
You agreed on these models and this is what we're going to put out.
And next time, make them the one you want.
Exactly.
And then sometimes those models do well.
And then Kanye's like, I knew I was right about making those models.
Right.
Right.
So I wonder if he's trying to get out, but now he's maybe done too much damage to get another investor or partner.
Because who's going to invest in him now?
Maybe the Saudis or some Middle East person who doesn't have that much sympathy for the Jewish plate.
Right.
But the average like American or European brand is not going to dump a few hundred million dollars into Kanye West to build out Yeezy.
Also.
Reestablish those distribution.
What do you think, Al Shan?
No, no.
I'm just saying it's like when you see his track record, like, yes, it's volatile.
It's risky to get in business with him, but the upside can be good as well.
So like, I think brands are going to see this behavior.
They're going to wait a while, wait till this shit dies down a little bit, maybe let him put out like a fire album or some shit like that.
And they'll be at like, they'll jump at the chance to connect with Kanye.
So he needs to cure his reputation first.
Once he's cured it, I think you just need some time to go by.
And the time will cure the reputation.
Gotcha.
But first things first is cure the perception.
Yes.
Al, you don't think so.
Like, if you're if you've seen you, you're black and you guys forgave him for saying that.
So then, no, I mean that sincerely.
Like, we were, you know, I don't think what he said was as bad as the anti-Semitic comments that he made.
Really?
Like, slavery was a choice?
Yeah.
Yeah, actually, that was pretty bad.
Yeah.
But like, that was a time period.
I think I stopped wearing any Yeezy stuff.
I cut out the albums for a while.
But like, I've really distanced myself from everything Kanye because I was really so upset by those comments.
And then after time went by and the music started to introduce itself back into it.
And then, yeah, I forgave him.
He never said he was wrong.
He never stopped fucking with Trump.
That's true.
He's hold true to all the things that you're saying that you were offended by.
And you giving him a pass.
That's his point.
Time cures.
The world will do that.
And Jews can't do that.
Well, like Mel Gibson.
Their entire motto is never forget.
They forgave Mel Gibson.
Did they?
No.
Weirdly, he's in the independent circles.
Like, he's been able to get back to the future.
I just remember who it was.
Someone, like a famous Jew, like came out and was like, we got to forgive Mel Gibson.
We got to move past that.
And Fashion of the Christ made a billion dollars.
And they were like, listen, there's some forgiveness here.
There's a sequel that we hear about.
That would be very good.
I think, though, that the version, besides, like, him going away for a while, there's going to be some type of factory that he could do it independently.
He can be doing easy drops that'll be super successful.
They'll still show.
That's never going to happen, though.
That's the thing.
He's not the person to build these relationships with these factories.
You can link with the fact that there's so many factories in China that you can actually set up to do this.
I don't think there's the biggest leap to do the type of distribution that Adidas has.
No, that'll take a while, but there's a version at a certain scale that he'll be able to kind of immediately go on.
A smaller scale, I think it is absolutely possible.
And there's no question.
And maybe he could make even more money at a smaller scale because he's keeping everything.
That's possible.
But it's undeniable that he needs factory connections, creatives to make this stuff, and also who might want to work with him right now.
If you're an up-and-coming designer, like a true brilliant guy who's on the cusp of working with a Louis Vuitton or working with a, I don't know, Balenciaga, whatever these companies, and then Kanye a year ago said, come work with me.
You'd be like, well, fuck yeah, let's do it.
Now you're like, that might ruin the rest of my career.
And this guy might burn out.
He might fire me.
He might hate me.
And that's another thing to consider in terms of burnout.
Adidas owns everything that Kanye has put out.
They are all old Yeezys colorways.
They own the name.
They own everything.
So now you're banking on, can Kanye make new shit as hot as what he made with Adidas?
And I could just be some boomer shit, but I'm looking at his new stuff a lot now and being like, damn.
And I don't think he is there.
I'd give you pushback on that.
I think he can.
I think that he has, and if it's not the creative vision, it is the confidence to push it through.
I mean, like, fashion is arbitrary.
Right?
Like, sometimes what's cool now will be uncool in a matter of years.
That's legit uncool.
Yeah.
So there is no one thing that defines cool.
It's are the cool people wearing it.
And Kanye had the ability to influence other cools to wear it.
Now, the question is, if he's released his grasp on those influencers, then he can't convince people to wear the stupid boots or whatever the fuck it is.
Now, think about this with those influencers.
A lot of them want to be Hollywood types.
They want to be in the industry in some form or fashion.
Exactly.
A lot of Jews in the industry.
I'm not saying they run it or do it with an agenda.
I'm damn sure a lot of them.
So if you, if they're looking at every person like, this motherfucker wearing Yeezys to my meeting or I see him on Instagram with wearing all this Kanye West shit, I don't need to fuck with this guy.
Will they take the risk of costing themselves that relationship because they're wearing the fashion of somebody who's on the record as being anti-Semitic?
It's just a time thing.
People wear Armani now and that shit.
They were like designing Nazi uniforms.
Hugo Ball.
You're talking about 80 years ago.
Yeah, I know.
So give it three years.
I think people will be like, oh, yeah, I remember that.
I mean, the Volkswagen is people's car.
It's literally Hitler's car.
Yeah, no, I agree.
I do agree that in time it will pass.
But again, a lot of time has passed since World War II.
Now it was way worse, but we're talking 80 years, multiple generations.
Kanye not going to be putting out fashion in 80 years unless people's attention span.
Yeah, they'll be worried about something else in the future.
And the people love clout.
And Kanye's still going to have that clout.
Like, he can garner attention.
We're still talking about him right now.
And he has an unbelievably entertaining way of talking.
Like whether you like it or don't like it, he is wildly entertaining.
Like I was watching Alex Freeman.
Like I'm watching it and I'm just laughing.
Hey, don't say Jewish media, J-M.
J-M.
It's laughing.
There's a few, dude, he has this one thing that he goes, he goes, I knew Kim would never love.
He goes, I knew Kim would never love Pete.
And not because he's ugly, but because she likes black guys.
That not because he's ugly is the most unnecessary thing, but that is him being petty and angry and just he just wants to call Pete ugly.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Kanye ain't the best looking motherfucker.
Do you know what I'm saying?
The fact that he put himself with Reggie Bush.
He's like, yo, she got a chance.
Reggie Bush is way too much.
That's how racist Kanye is towards black people.
He thinks they all look the same.
Literally.
Ray J, Reggie Bush.
She also left out her first husband who looked nothing like them, Chris Humphrey.
But Ray J, Reggie Bush, and me.
That's a good ass point.
Yeah, Chris Humphrey looks nothing like him.
But the first guy that proposed might look like the guy, the music guy.
What's his name?
He was like a producer.
Oh, fuck.
He looked at this one.
Anyway, but yeah, Chris Humphreys look nothing like him.
That being said, very short-lived relationship.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
But marriage.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's a, excuse me.
Yeah, I think it's a, I think, I don't know.
It's an interesting time.
It depends if he persists with the attitude and the behavior.
Yeah.
If he like somehow does like a whole apology tour, does like a movie with Jewish producers, like some type of like major act of retribution to like the Jewish community and society at large and then just kind of chills for like a year, I think he'll be back in the fold.
He'll be able to partner with an independent business person that will get the contracts with the Chinese factories.
Trust Issues and Attitude Shifts00:14:57
He'll be able to do the marketing push and it'll even be more exclusive.
Like the price of Yeezys is already going up because they're not producing them anymore.
Oh, wow.
He's going to be able to drop shit into like, oh, there's only a thousand of these getting made versus Adidas global distribution.
Yeah.
He's going to be able to keep all of it.
It's all going to go up.
No, it absolutely could work.
The question is, how radioactive will he be?
And will people want to work with him?
And if it's profitable enough and shit has died down enough in a year, then maybe they will.
And also based off the current attitude on social, I don't think enough people are not fucking with him that he's not going to be profitable.
Here's something, though.
Here's something about social I think that we need to understand.
And he's doing what Trump did brilliantly.
And I think people often say this and they use it as like a way to discredit people and I'm not.
But Trump tapped into passionate groups that had no mainstream representation and he gave them a voice.
And the thing about having no mainstream representation is when you do, you forgive the other shit they say because you're just so excited that they're talking for you.
Right.
Like, so for example, there's single issue voters.
Like there are people who are like, I do not believe in abortion.
I don't give a fuck what you want to do with the economy.
I don't care what you want to do with immigration.
I do not believe in abortion.
So if you tell me you're banned at abortion, you could say whatever the fuck you want about the Jews.
You could say whatever the fuck you want about the blacks.
As long as we're not aborting, I'm voting for you.
There's anti-Semites that like Ben Shapiro.
Love him.
Yeah.
Absolutely love him.
And he's going to have to deal with that.
That's the next thing.
That's a very, I don't know.
No, no, no.
Why are they anti-Semites I love?
Because he's on their time.
He's on their side diagram got some crossovers.
They don't like that he's Jewish, but they love that he's conservative and he's fighting for conservative.
He's making great points and he's like telling them what to say to their friends and like giving them argument.
Like he's making them harvest and all this shit.
The breakdown of Jews is like 75% lean Democrat and vote Democrat and 25% would be conservative.
And so Ben Shapiro.
You don't think there's people that have prejudice against Candace Owens that happen to like her or like wash her stuff?
No, there's people who don't like black people but love that Candace Owens is giving them all the talking points against black people.
And not all or even most, but there are some.
Yeah, yeah.
This is not everyone, but there are these groups.
And what I was saying is Ben is going to have to work with that because now that he has the platform, the Daily Wire, is he fostering and aiding and helping and fanning the flame on these feelings of these groups?
And are these groups now emboldened with their anti-Semitism?
And has that happened?
Has he added 10% to it, 20% to it?
Maybe.
Or is he giving them like better footing to not go farther into that?
Sure, sure.
So, but wait, what were we just saying before you brought that up?
That there's people that are willing to look past the shit so long as that's all.
And I think what Kanye did is he tapped into a bunch of groups, specifically with the thing that he's been talking about, like drink champs and all the different podcasts that are underrepresented.
Anti-Semites, number one, they don't identify as anti-Semites.
They're not like we hate Jews.
They're like, Jews run the media.
Yeah.
Jews run banks.
And if you criticize them, you'll lose everything.
Your house is gone and blah, blah, blah.
Exactly.
So they're like, we don't hate Jews.
This is just the fact of life.
And the fact that nobody else sees this or says this is very frustrating.
And then one of the most famous people on the planet says it.
Now he can do no wrong.
Right.
In their eyes.
In not mine, but in their eyes.
Yeah, in their eyes.
Absolutely.
Same thing with the George Floyd fentanyl.
So all these people who believe George Floyd only died from fentanyl, right, are being told that they're liars every single day by the mainstream media.
They truly believe it was only fentanyl.
And every day they're told they're liars, they're stupid, they're idiots, they're conspiracy theorists.
And then one of the most famous people on the planet goes, no, this is what happened.
You're God.
And I've spoken to some of these motherfuckers.
They've all said because they were criticizing me.
So I was a DMM with them.
And I was like, yo, what are you really upset about?
Like, what did I do?
Why are you so angry at me?
And they all said, literally, they all go, listen, Kanye's an idiot, but he's right about the fentanyl thing.
You got to look at it.
So they're using Kanye.
They're just finally being agreed with.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry.
What you said reminded me of a question I had about the Candace Owens.
Okay.
You think calling it the rise of BLM and going at this Black Lives Matter organization that I think all of us felt like was bullshit for a while and then giving us all this evidence of why it's bullshit and vindicating that made people believe the George Floyd fentanyl even more.
Of course.
There's like a smart nugget about George Floyd dying for fentanyl and then the rest is BLM bashing.
I think if you hate what BLM did, like if you felt affected by it, and I'm sure that there's like, listen, there's people who have seen what cops went through because of the rhetoric.
They have cops in their family.
They got their stores fucked up.
They got their stores fucked up or their friends' stores got fucked up.
There are like legitimate reasons to feel attacked by the movement, just as there are legitimate reasons to feel attacked as a black person.
Right.
So I understand the frustration.
So you're willing to discredit that in any way.
And then one of the most influential people on the planet comes out and says a thing that nobody says and you're not supposed to say.
Black dude, yeah.
And a black guy.
So you get to feel scot-free, right?
It's not some fucking white guy with one hand in the air who's usually saying it.
This is the coolest black dude is saying it.
So now you're like, yeah, of course, I'm going to support this no matter what.
And anybody disagrees with him, fuck you.
And I think he tapped into a few of those things.
And finally, those groups came out of the woodwork.
They're like, okay, it's safe.
It's safe outside.
We got a cool, powerful guy talking our shit.
We never had it before, so we had to be quiet.
And it's an interesting strategy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Really?
He sees Trump's playbook and he's following it to the T.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is this funny?
To what end?
I'm actually asking you.
It's hard because you never really know his true motives.
His true motives is just himself.
So it's like, yeah, the thing that was driving me crazy in the Lex interview is so much for black people this, for black people that.
It's like, bro, you've never been for black people in your life, except one time maybe when he's criticized George Bush.
And even that, I don't know.
I agree.
I think he just says salacious thing.
I can't.
I mean, he's in like the BLM marches and shit and like raising money for George Floyd's kids and stuff like that.
All right, that's fair.
But generally speaking, I find Ye to be for Ye.
And to a large degree, he wants acceptance from white people.
Now he's just getting acceptance from the whitest people.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, let's put on the Trump hat and let's, George Floyd died from fentanyl.
It's like, to me, he's always wanted acceptance from white people more than anything else.
Like, I don't even think he's going to run in 2024.
I think he's doing the same thing that Trump is doing.
Just like, hey, I'm just going to tease that I'm running.
So you guys just keep me in the conversation.
And I'm always this influential person in the media that has to be covered just because I'm teasing the fact that I may be president.
So everybody's going to try to stay in my good graces.
So just in case.
There's a, yeah, you guys should all go watch the conversation with Lex Freeman.
I thought Lex handled it really well.
Yeah, I thought he was great, but I thought he exposed like a side of Kanye that I wasn't familiar with.
And he did it with like grace and empathy.
And Lex, it felt like he was upset, like visibly upset.
He felt like he was a friend who was disappointed in Kanye.
Yeah, but also angered at times.
And then he kind of controlled his anger.
Like Lex is a fucking black belt and jiu-jitsu.
If he wanted to twist Kanye's head off his shoulders, he could do it in a fucking heartbeat.
Yeah, he looks like a dweeb, but he's not.
He could fuck somebody up.
Yeah.
And so it's like, Al goes, hmm, of course.
Racism.
This is because he's Jewish.
He's Ukrainian, dude.
He fucked you up.
That's a part of white people.
He's saying moving that suit.
It's got to keep him alone.
Yeah, that's it.
It's the suit.
John Rich moved in that suit.
So, so basically, I think what he exposed in Kanye is this unbelievable hurt and loneliness.
And I think Kanye's been fucked over by a lot of people in the business.
Now, where did you pick up on this?
Please.
How much of the episode have you seen?
Hour and 10 hours.
Yeah, so it's about like a two and a half hour.
So you'll start to feel a little bit more.
But like he starts, there's a moment where he tells Lex and he tells him, I don't trust you.
Lex is like, you have to trust people.
So he goes, I don't trust you.
And like Lex is like thrown by it.
And he goes, I'm sorry.
I was like really thrown off by that.
Like that, no one's ever told me that they don't trust me.
That's great for me.
And that like hurt me that you said that.
Like he just had like a really honest emotional reaction.
Like everybody calls Lex a robot, but it was like this beautiful human thing.
He's like, whoa, like, and then he processed it not as a fuck you, but more like, it's so sad that you feel like you can't trust people.
And of course, Ye is only thinking about Ye when he's been the only one looking out for him.
And for all these years, maybe people have been making money off of him and doing what they can to remove resources from him.
And it's easy, I imagine, when you feel taken advantage of in every single relationship that you have was used to kind of take something from you.
It's one, easy to be resentful and feel like you're the only person in this world and it's just you and God.
That's your only homie who will never let you go.
But it's also, and he said this at one point in the episode, he goes, we have mutually aligned interests and that's what I feel comfortable with.
And that's the only way that he can have trust in a relationship with his wife, he even brings it up like that, in a relationship with his friends.
And think about how lonely that is.
That every relationship you have, once you believe that people are trying to take from you, it's very easy to go, the few people who may or may not be Jewish on my team are part of a larger organization of Jews that are just trying to extract.
Once that resentment is there and once that loneliness is there and once that abandonment is there.
And he lost.
Who loves you?
Yeah.
It's like, who loves you genuinely?
Your mom's gone.
Yeah.
You know, your wife, you may or may not think that she's using you to get somewhere.
Yeah.
You might be using her to get somewhere.
Now, I'm not saying Ye didn't ruin relationships on his own.
I'm sure he's a difficult guy to deal with.
It seems like it.
I mean, you could see the track record.
Of course.
Everyone who's been by his side is no longer by his side.
Of course.
And the people.
Eventually it's you.
But not to cut you, but like I never saw that in you.
I saw confidence.
I saw arrogance.
I saw these types of things.
But I never saw those as covering up loneliness.
But even in the Drink Champs interview, he was like complaining, like, oh, you see, when I was going through it, no one in the black community stood by my side.
Now it makes sense.
He's hurt, man.
Do you think that's, I think that's a consistent in most people.
Like, super, like, not confidence, but like staunch arrogance and like bordering on like pathology is always kind of rooted in some type of insecurity and like compensation.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The people that he's mentioning when that's the part I believe when he was talking about he's jealous of these Jews and the way they act this way and how they hold their own.
Like he's taught, he's name dropping like the Azoff family who once you're with those people, those are the most mentoring mom and dad in the industry.
So he's made it to the top of people that are going to look after, not just take away from you.
So it's easy that you did something to push away from management to agents to business managers.
So that's a part where it's like, yeah, you could be lonely.
I thought he was handing it.
I thought it was another cool thing that Lex did when he said, you know, he was giving pushback to Jewish media.
And he goes, he goes, say their names.
I love that.
Yeah.
I thought it was really great.
Right.
He was like, I like the most.
He's like, don't be a pussy.
He's like, be brave.
Say the people's names that have hurt you.
Don't use this blanket term that is going to be what breeds the hatred towards a group of people who are innocent in doing anything to you.
Say those individuals' names.
And then Yay didn't do it.
He also said, be the change that you want to see.
It's like, if you don't like the industry, you're a billionaire now.
You can do the changes.
You had that genius point yesterday.
You told me.
Yeah.
I don't know if Kanye has given his artists their masters yet.
I know he said he would.
I don't know that he has.
You would think Kanye, once it's done and in writing, would publish the contracts.
This is the kind of guy you would think Kanye is.
Hey, I'm giving you your masters back.
I'm the owner.
I'm Kanye.
I own good music.
You're common.
You're Big Sean, whoever.
Why does Big Sean still say he's owed $3 million or whatever?
Big Sean hasn't taken back what he said on Drink Champs that Kanye owes him millions.
So Kanye, you complain about contracts multiple times on a Lex Friedman interview.
You never said I gave my guys their masters back.
So Lex Friedman asked him about that.
He goes, listen, I was like the face of a label, but I wasn't actually running the label.
The people that were running the label were doing it fucked up.
And it's like, it's your label.
And you got your masters back, right?
And you could have, it's a very easy fight from there.
Hey, or you could have at least fought for your people, which is what you're saying you're doing now.
Like, be the change you want to see.
And I think that to Alex's point earlier, maybe it was your point, which is like he wants to be the change he wants to see for Kanye.
Yeah.
And if there's a trickle down that affects other people, that's cool.
But I got to hit Ye first.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'm not really going out of my way to help y'all, but I did it first so y'all could do it later.
Y'all do it on your own, though, just like me.
He's a clear narcissist who doesn't want to take any accountability.
And it's like, I feel a little bit bad for him because I've seen, like, I was a big Kanye fan.
I watch a lot of his interviews.
You can see his like decline in terms of even the way he's speaking.
It's like he cannot stay focused on a single thing.
Like he can't even like finish a single sentence and then he's like off to the next thing.
Like he's jumping around.
And he even said in the interview, he's like, hey, I've been off my meds for two years.
There you go.
Like, that's not good.
From a person who says he's clinically bipolar, that's not good.
He doesn't believe it anymore.
He's because he's having a manic episode.
And the last time he had an episode, he claimed he said he was bipolar.
He said himself he was bipolar.
This came out of his mouth.
But again, when you're having an episode, you feel so good.
You're like, man, these motherfuckers telling me I'm X, Y, and Z.
I feel great.
I feel better than I've ever been because I'm off those meds.
And again, I think he got out of the meds.
Matt Bavich brought this up again.
Those meds make you fat.
And I think Kanye, we know to be a very vain guy.
And I could 100% see him and his family supporting it, the Kardashians being like, yeah, you don't need that.
Why get fat?
But it is amazing.
Like he's a lightning rod.
Oh, like he, there are very few people, like when they want, can make the entire world talk about them.
He's historic in that sense.
Why is he able to do that?
I think he taps into a lot of people's internal desire to be seen as the misunderstood genius.
Because he's undoubtedly a genius and he's undoubtedly misunderstood.
You know what I mean?
So I think everyone likes to see themselves as like, yo, I'm Harry Potter.
I'm living under the stairs.
Like, I don't get the respect that I deserve.
I'm actually a genius.
I'm actually a hero.
He really won me with the Harry Potter thing.
I was ready to push back.
I'm pretty sure Potter.
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This guy gets it.
That's the story.
It's like, yo, I'm just like a kid from Chicago and I have this talent.
I'm not going to respect.
I won.
Then I finally get it.
And then when I get it, I don't just like hide away.
I actually keep pushing and I keep on trying to make change.
And I keep saying my opinion and speaking my voice.
It's really powerful to people.
I think people see it and identify with it and go, that's the person that I perceive myself to be and that I want to be one day.
Regardless of like what the message is, it's just seeing a man with purpose on a mission that's overcoming odds and obstacles and media and all these external forces.
He's filled with self-belief in a way we all wish we were.
Exactly.
That's really been the theme of his music ever since the beginning.
And that's why a lot of people gravitate to it.
It's like he's the underdog.
He's always been the underdog, even when he was on top.
He was still the underdog.
Yeah, people still think he's an underdog.
He's a billionaire.
Well, not now, apparently, because that lost him his billionaire status.
But yeah, how are you?
He always takes on new challenges and then is a genius in those things.
He like takes on music and is like this unrespected producer that's like, no, I'm a rapper.
And then he becomes an amazing rapper that like makes these amazing albums.
And then he's like, oh, I'm going to sell these $500 t-shirts.
And everyone's like, you're an idiot.
And then he makes this giant clothing brand and he continues to create odds for himself and then beats them.
And I think people see that.
They're like, fuck, that is the coolest thing.
Yeah.
So I get why his story is like motivational for people.
His journey.
Yeah.
Why value to people?
Yeah, exactly.
Literally, it's like the hero's journey.
Like he's created that for himself and his life is like this fucking Shakespearean tale.
Like it's amazing.
I completely agree with all that.
One small point of pushback.
I think us buying into him as a genius beyond fashion and even fashion genius.
I don't know what that is, but music, that's, I think we just let him be a genius in everything.
And he kind of believed that and we let him believe that.
And I think that's what's making making.
I think the genius of fashion is not how the clothes fit or how they look.
It's convincing people to wear them.
Yeah.
Because we'll wear anything.
We're all old enough to go through multiple style cycles.
Yeah.
Baggy to skinny to baggy.
Back to baggy.
You know what I mean?
And like, we're all enough to wear skinny during baggy and then feel dumb.
Yeah.
When we wore it and felt cool.
Or your favorite shirt, all of a sudden, you want to be caught dead.
And you're like, what?
This shirt's the same.
Yeah.
What changed?
So, so weirdly, the design of clothes is arbitrary.
It is the influence to get the cool people to wear the clothes, which is the greatest power in fashion.
I was like, kind of arbitrary, but yeah.
Well, to a certain extent, but I mean, he even talked about it in the Lex thing.
He was like, I got Arnaud's reaction when I had all these people at the Yeezy Show.
That's when he got the...
Yeah, from a business perspective, yeah.
Well, why is it valuable from a business perspective?
Because Arnaud knows that influencing other people that are influencers to be at the show, to be at the Easy Show, to wear the Yeezys, to walk the Yeezy Show, the most influential models, singers, everybody.
Once they're being influenced by this guy and he doesn't have them under a contract somewhere, that's a problem for him.
You got to keep LVMH going.
And if I don't own that brand that everybody thinks is the next brand, now my shit is fucked.
So I think at its core, he understands what moves fashion.
It's not the fucking cut.
I'm sorry, designers.
It's not the cut.
I think they know.
It's a little.
I think they know.
It's a little bit.
Don't take it all the way.
I don't want to discredit.
I don't want to discredit that as a skill beast.
It's an amazing skill.
Yes, it is.
Like, there's different styles of painting.
Impressionist painting, right?
There's realism.
Like, there's all these different styles.
And some people can do many different ones.
Like, Picasso could paint something so it looks like you.
And he could also do the, what is the one where it's like, cubism, I think it's called?
Something like that.
Like, there are different styles.
It's getting people to buy into Picasso is a genius painter that makes those paintings valuable.
100%.
There's a Gucci Bow board out there where they're wearing the Clockwork Orange outfit.
Have you guys seen that?
I remember Trend.
It's Jack from Side Talk.
They look exactly like Trend and Jack from Side Talk.
You're talking about the one Lafayette right there.
Yeah, I sent it to them.
So funny.
Shout out to Trend and Jack, man.
I love you.
But I watched Clockwork Orange in the whatever, 2004 in college, and I was like, these guys look fucking weird.
This is goofy.
I don't understand any of this.
I'm walking by it.
It's on a Gucci Bow board.
And I'm like, this shit is kind of fire now that you think about it.
I'm as dumb as anybody else.
I'm just as much of a cheap as anybody else.
But so much of fashion, the cut and shit matters, but so much of it is marketing and getting us to buy in, especially me, because I'm the last guy to get there.
So if you got me, you got everyone.
Yeah.
I mean, it has to objectively be cool in some way.
So like it can't be uncool.
But yeah, ultimately.
Yeah, but what makes it cool?
Just that it fits you.
No, you said that.
No, no, no, Mark.
You said this actually too.
I remember specifically.
Somebody's clothes, they're oversized.
They don't even fit.
Yeah.
But like, I'm saying, like, he can't make something that is like objectively ugly.
Yes, you can.
Yeah, you can.
You can.
No, you said.
We're going to use your words because you made this argument.
It was about what may, oh, yeah.
What makes something cool is the fact that it isn't.
So everything starts as a rejection of the norm.
Right.
Remember, we were talking about fashion?
Yeah, it's a progression of the norm.
Like, the way I've heard people describe it is like, it has to be right on the edge of like the Overton window of acceptability, but pushing it far enough that it's still there.
And nobody knows what you're talking about.
Look, not a single, you was talking about Oval Teen.
I don't know what the fuck that shit is.
Yo, God.
I was positive for a second.
I was just positive, bro.
Everybody's wearing skinny jeans.
This is fashion.
The reaction.
You didn't know what the fuck.
I don't, but it was funny that you did it.
Listen, start back with baggy.
We all know what he's talking about.
We're just trying to make it easier to digest.
Everybody's wearing skinny.
The next cycle of fashion will be baggy.
It is predictable.
It's happened every single time because that's the rejection of this thing right here.
What is baggy while this is popular?
While skinny's popular, what's baggy?
Ugly.
Ugly or uncool.
And then once the cool people reject you, this is your point.
Yeah, I know.
But I'm saying that there's trends that like, if you just like break the trend in the middle of the trend, then people will be like, ah, he's.
Oh, I got you.
It's not there yet.
You have to wait till you get the end.
Like, I'm saying, like, within a cycle, you can't just make anything.
Once people jump on it, once urban outfitters, it's like once urban outfitters.
It's a small brand or whatever.
Yeah, then people will be like, oh, it's everywhere now.
Once skinny is mall brand, now it's time to break.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like you couldn't just like when, what was it, Ed Hardy got like made kids clothes or whatever.
Yeah, then it was like, okay, it's over.
Like they couldn't just like keep doing it and be like, oh, yeah, let's just make a new story.
Like the story's already run its course.
So that's the only pushback I'm saying.
I even think in the middle, and you couldn't coordinate this, but if you got all the influencers in the middle of the skinny jeans hype, or even now the baggy jeans thing is on its rise, in the middle of it, if you got a bunch of famous, sexy people to just start wearing skinny or just completely break the trend, the trend is over.
Yeah, Mike.
Whatever it was, it's now broken and now we're going to this thing.
Sure, right.
Because we're all like, I guess.
You just got to see it enough times to be like, yeah, that shit is actually fire.
Sure.
Yeah.
To get those people to be influenced, though, like, can you influence them in the middle of that thing to fuck up their potential brand?
Exactly.
And then if you're able to, then you have influence to set the trend and then you are the trendsetter.
Therefore the trend is changing.
Yeah.
But ultimately, you're buying the story.
Yes.
Like when it comes to fashion and like most art.
When it comes to life.
Yeah.
Story, man.
But yeah, the Lex interview is very interesting.
And I'm glad Lex had him on.
Yeah.
At first, I was like, yo, why is he doing this?
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Like, I was like, are you just going after fucking numbers?
Like, what's going on, Lex?
Like, and then I was told that he's Jewish.
And I was like, that makes sense.
I want Kanye to speak to a thoughtful, smart Jewish guy.
You didn't know Lex Friedman was Jewish?
No.
No.
Isn't Friedman a Jewish name?
Very Jewish.
I thought so.
It's like super Jewie.
It's like one of the, my name's Jewie.
Yeah.
It's like one of those names where it could be both, but I'm not Jewish.
But you are, though.
You just don't accept it.
You're clowning.
You're not Jew.
You're just shit about Jews.
We'll see if I'm Jewish.
Let's see.
Let's see.
Who owns the banks, boys?
I love Jews.
There you go.
I'm not Jewish at all.
But yeah, I don't know.
Then I thought from that perspective, it was like a really cool conversation to happen.
And I thought he did it really well.
We're early on.
He's very nice, very friendly.
We're having the conversation.
And I was kind of waiting.
I was like, yo, Lex gives pushback.
When is this coming?
And then it started about 20, 30 minutes in, whatever it was.
He was like, now, that was a horrible apology.
There's no, we need to talk about this Jewish media thing.
Call out the individuals, not the group.
That's cowardly.
He said some harsh shit.
Yeah, but it was good.
Yeah.
It was good.
Go check it out.
Necessary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go check it out.
And we got to have Lex on the pod when he's in town.
Hell yeah.
That'll be good.
Can we dress like robots?
We all have to dress exactly like Lex.
We're like, what is the minion guy?
Grew.
Oh, Beato, Beeto.
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Anything else?
Kevin Griner appealed her sentence in Russia.
She ain't never leaving, bro.
Ukraine got to win that war before she leaves.
Yeah.
Does anyone feel bad for her?
I know there's always people being like, oh, doesn't America feel look good now?
Don't you wish you were in?
Charlamagne sapped all my empathy for that shit.
He's like, we got people with weed charges that's in jail here.
Yeah, that's also bad.
Yeah, but I think what he was saying is like, it was like, basically his point was like, let's get them out.
Why are we putting all this money, time, and focus on this woman who knowingly took drugs into a country where she's not supposed to?
None of us would take drugs across countries.
But the people in jail in America also knowingly sold drugs when they weren't supposed to.
That's not true.
What?
That's not true.
Wait, why not?
That's not true.
No, it is true.
No, it is true.
But now that it's decriminalized, or now that's legal here, it still is criminalized and illegal there.
I think that's the separation.
But 100%.
And she went during a time of increased tension.
So, like, you got to be on your own.
Yeah, she fucked up a million percent, duh.
For somebody who's in jail in a foreign country, I feel bad for her.
That shit sucks, especially when you're in jail for some bullshit.
Son, you were journalists.
You're in a great jail.
You assaulted an officer.
You fucking pieces.
What are you talking about?
You had three hard days.
Yeah, three days on a yoga mag.
Then he had your own shower.
You watched 90 days Beyonce.
You didn't even make it the full 90 days.
Shit, food.
Shit, food.
Nah.
That's the whole country.
That's not the jail cell.
If Brittany Griner's in the jail you were in, then she's in a better spot than in America.
But I feel like Russian prison is probably not ideal.
The picture of the jail cell, if that's the one that she's permanently in, rough.
For a gay black chick in Russia, I feel like it's probably not great.
Now, Russian jail is wild, that was a bad thing.
Especially for like, she's basically a prisoner of war at this point.
Like, she's an American gay black chick.
We'd in jail, bro.
Russia.
But do you feel bad?
Do you feel bad for her?
I got you.
She kind of, yeah.
Like, I could imagine.
Because you presented it like you don't feel bad.
No, I do.
No, you presented it like you did feel bad.
Oh, really?
Oh, I got the opposite fires in there.
You were like, does anyone feel bad for Brittany?
You got vaccinated recently?
I did.
You got a little tizz out.
I got my fifth vaccine according to the comments on my Instagram post.
You're having a hard time picking up social stuff, dude.
That's what it is.
No, but like, I do feel bad for her.
I just really related to Lex.
You got the whole energy.
It's like, finally, watch one Lex Stream of emotional intelligence.
This is what's up.
Okay, go.
But yeah, I don't know.
I do feel bad for her.
Like, I could have, I just put myself in her situation.
I feel bad.
Where it's like, okay, I'm going there.
I'm bringing weed because I need it for my whatever.
Or I just like smoking.
It's a little capsule.
I'm not going to sell it.
It's just for me.
And then you get fucked.
And then now you're in prison for like the rest of your life.
Can't see your family, friends, kids, whatever.
Yeah, that's true.
Here's what I fucked up.
The oligarch that owns her fucking team will get her out of jail if anything happened or if they ever arrested her for any little thing.
They'd be like, now this is Brittany Griner.
She's a superstar.
She plays on my team.
This is my little pet project.
This is kind of fun.
It just so happens is during wartime.
Like you said, she's more of a prisoner of war than she is a prisoner of the prison.
But then also people don't have any empathy for her because they're like, oh, you criticize America during all the BLM stuff.
She was like, America's racist.
She like kneeled for the national anthem, whatever else.
Two things can be true.
Yo, America can be racist.
And if you're American and you believe that we shouldn't be, like if your idea of America is we shouldn't be, we should live up to the values of America, you should criticize the racism in America.
Yeah.
If you're proud of the racism in America, then you're like, bitch, shut up.
That's my culture.
But if you believe in what the Constitution says and you believe in the values, you should support the people who push back against the things that don't live up to it.
I don't think there's anything wrong with her saying that.
And I love America and I love America's power.
And that's what I'm talking to this guy.
I'm the biggest patriot in the world, bro.
Oh, yeah, I sure you are.
I am, bro.
It's a Jewish country.
America is a Jewish country, bro.
Yes, it is.
Look at the stars on the flag.
Stars of David.
Every single one of them.
Yeah, six-point stars, bro.
Oh, that's crazy.
56-point stars.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm just like, fuck.
I do feel bad.
And I get why people are mad at her being like, oh, whatever.
But I wish America was able to leverage their power to get her out and help people, even the ones that talk shit about America.
Let's say Brittany Griner did some stuff to piss people off in America.
Doesn't mean that she should be a fucking prisoner of war in Russia.
You know what I mean?
Now, people will go say she broke the rules.
She did.
She did.
Yeah.
Like, and I don't know if we would go to Thailand to take all the people that get caught with drugs out there back.
Yeah.
I don't know if we do that.
I know that she's a famous person, so all of a sudden we care more where there are probably plenty of Americans that got caught with drugs in different countries.
They got arrested.
I don't know what America is doing then.
Yeah.
So, yeah, this is the benefit and a curse of being famous.
Yeah.
Just different degrees of how much you feel bad.
Like, you feel bad, but I don't feel like bad.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
I know.
It sucks saying it, but it's true.
Yeah.
But what are the other celebs doing?
I don't know.
Like, what are the celebs that are talking about doing?
Like, what do they want done?
Do they want preferential treatment for the wealthy, uh, famous person?
Is that what they're asking?
Like, I'm like, when like LeBron or these people are tweeting about it, what are they saying?
This person is more important than the people that are in jail here.
We should care about her because she's famous.
I guess just because we know her.
Like, you care about people you know.
I agree with that.
We know her, so it feels more real.
Feels more real.
We don't know.
Again, we don't see the other people that are kind of like what I was saying about the iPhones or whatever.
We don't see the other people in jail for their trumped-up charges.
Yeah.
We see her in jail.
Yeah.
Care about this one.
And I feel bad for people in jail in America that sold weed and now they're fucking locked up.
Oh, yeah.
Let every single one of them out.
That's just being in prison for like a year sucks.
I was thinking about that shit, dude.
That is awful.
Yeah.
And also, like, being in prison for something that's legal that the state is making money on.
Yeah.
Yo, the state is making money.
That's crazy.
Yeah, and you're still locked up.
Son, fighting a bouncer, bro.
Crazy.
No, no, no.
28.
Damn, sweet.
Rough.
Okay, what else?
What was therapy?
Sir.
What else we got?
There are people right now in Mississippi that are going to be in jail.
It seems like, very likely, because they were scaring kids at a daycare during Halloween.
Oh, what pieces of shit.
So my question is: is it a reasonable sentence to potentially go to jail for scaring children?
I think yes, because I was scared as a kid.
I saw this video, I started laughing, and then I was like, maybe all right.
I might not be a good dad.
So this is out of daycare in Mississippi.
This is what these daycare, like, not teachers, I guess, like, uh, what do they dress as a glass of water?
What's on?
Jackson, Mississippi's got flint water.
Yeah, they know that.
Apparently, not, bro.
Sorry, I was screaming the news.
Just call them stupid because they didn't know.
You ain't no either, bro.
Yeah, how'd you not know?
I'm on your side, though.
Sorry, you did that jail time.
Thank you.
See, son, that shit is wild.
How are you laughing, bro?
Because these people hate their job, bro.
No, they hate them dead kids.
That's a day.
Oh, my God.
This son is not funny.
The double down is crazy.
It's a long video, bro.
All this so women can have a career.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, stay home, watch your kids, ladies.
That shit, I don't like that.
Son, if you scare a kid and then they cry and then you take the mask off, fair.
But she saw them crying and then just got close to them.
I'm a fuck with my kids, though.
I ain't gonna lie.
Why is that?
Why fair?
I'm gonna fuck with my kids.
How are you gonna fuck with your kids?
You scared them, then you show them the mask.
You humble them, and everything is okay.
It's just a little joke.
How much is too much, though?
Because, like, you can scare them a little, like, go boo.
And then it's like, how much when is it crossing the line?
Nah, I'm gonna do more like pranks and like silly things.
Yeah, that's not scary.
That's funny.
I find it funny.
For me, it's scary for them when they get hit with American cheese on their fucking head.
They can't breathe.
No, no, that's also funny.
You take a piece of American cheese and you just throw it like that.
Throw cheese at a kid.
Don't laugh.
No, they will laugh and also get it.
Grab an apple and just go to town.
American cheese.
That'll happen.
Yeah, I think you got to freeze your kids.
What are you talking about?
You're traumatized with bears because your fucking brothers are scared.
I know.
That's why I don't think you should scare people.
But she never got eaten by a bear.
But I could.
No, you can't because you're afraid.
You don't put yourself in those situations.
That's a decent point.
That's a decent thing.
They saved you.
That's it.
If anything, they saved you.
You would be around bears.
I wouldn't get killed by a bear regardless.
Nah, you would.
Nah, you would.
If you weren't scared of bears, you'd be camping.
You get fucked up by freezing.
I can tell right now.
You're the type of freezer.
I'll freeze up now.
I'll freeze up now.
You're not scared of them.
So you're dead.
But I'm saying if I wasn't traumatized, maybe I could fight.
No.
You're not going to fight a bear.
You got to scream in Chinese at it.
Then you have one chance to win.
But yeah, I don't like scaring kids.
Yeah, I don't like that either.
They should all be fired.
Imagine if that was your kid.
You saw a video of your kids screaming.
Yo, can I tell you how annoyed I would really be?
I'd be like, I got to find a new daycare.
It would be the inconvenience of my life.
Like, I got to find a new place.
Also, your girl super mad, and then you got to do that.
You got to do that.
Oh, God.
Yeah, no, how could they?
Oh, shit.
You got to like boss up because once, if this is one of your kids and you saw that teacher do that, like, you got to hurt the teacher.
Yeah.
I mean, what do you do?
Do you do you scare her back?
Yeah, I think you have to.
How would you scare her?
I see him back off a heart.
Do you see him move stuff?
No, I was like, yeah, that's much more civil way to deal with things.
What were you going to do?
You want to fuck her up?
No, no, no.
I was going to get my girl to fuck her up.
You know, you can't.
He can't.
Women.
That used to be a thing.
Do people still do that?
Like, if you had beef with a girl, like, you get a girl to fuck that girl up.
There's like an honor in that.
Yeah, that seems like a decent way to do it.
Or you could just go white chicks.
What's that?
Oh, you go, girl.
And drag.
While you hitting women, bro.
Yo, can you have like what is that thing called?
Like you have momentary insanity.
Yeah, but could you have like momentary intransity where like I thought I was a woman when I was fucking that bitch up?
Is that a thing that happened if you have multiple genders?
Your gender fluid.
I think you're.
But you got to say that before, just as like a caveat.
Well, I'm going to say it now.
Yeah, say it now.
Declare it.
I'm fluid sometimes.
I'm fluid.
I am fluid.
I've been taking some mirror pics.
I was like, I'm fluid.
You're fluid?
Look at you.
Oh, hell yeah.
Look at this.
I don't got no dick.
Look at that.
You can't sit like that with a dick.
Are you able to do that?
Full tuck?
What?
Full tuck mangina?
I'm tucked right now.
You think I can't do it like that without being tucked?
Yeah, that's a good point.
Come on, bro.
You look incredibly uncomfortable, though.
I am.
I've never seen one more uncomfortable on this.
I am, but I got to prove my life.
Remember when I got to fix his posture for like a week?
He was coming to work with fucking duct tape on his tits and shit.
What was that stupid contraption?
It was like some harness.
So he's in there.
He's editing a special like this.
That shit day up.
Okay, what if you find out your kid's getting bullied by another kid?
Do you go to school?
I did that for my brother once.
I feel guilty about that shit.
Wait, how do you feel guilty?
Because my brother's younger than me, and the kid was in fucking, I'm in high school, senior, and the kid's in like first year of middle school or some shit.
And I came to school, I grabbed that little motherfucking kid.
I threw him up against a fence.
That's fire.
Yeah, you're supposed to do that.
Nah, he's a kid.
I can't be beating up little kids.
What do you do?
What do you do to your brother?
What do you do to your brother?
Say what?
I'm not going to lie.
I was a little scared going there.
Like, what if this kid could fight?
Jamie, I need you, bro.
It might be like six of them.
It could be a cat Williams situation.
We can sell lemonade right after.
I'm asking my brother, like, yo, how big is he?
Wait, but what was he doing to your brother?
He was bullying my brother.
So I bullied him back.
Yeah, that's good.
That's reasonable, brother.
That's good brothering.
Well, the biggie didn't go to rehab.
Yeah, after the rehab, my brother grew mad inches because he ate vegetables for the first time in his life.
My parents was letting him eat fucking toasted mini wheats and then chicken nuggets for his whole existence.
That's why I'm short.
Honestly, if you go to rehab, my brother grew seven inches in one year.
I think it might be a little late for me, but.
You might be able to do it, bro.
I'm serious.
Go to Utah.
That's the shit that brings me.
It was 5'10 before rehab?
5'11?
Yeah.
He's 6'6 now, right?
6'6 or 6'7, yeah.
He's still taller than you before rehab, and hey, he's good.
Yeah, yeah, it might not be much.
All right, what else?
Yo, what about this?
This reporter that met Messi and then started crying.
I don't understand soccer, though.
I don't get it, Doug.
I don't get it.
That's how soft the score is, bro.
Yeah, look at Messi, though.
The reporter flopped.
He said he wanted a moment so bad, bro.
He wants a moment so bad, bro.
And Messi's like, nah, I ain't giving this to you, bro.
I mean, kind of crazy, though.
Natural Serotonin vs Mushrooms00:07:24
Is there anyone you could interview that would make you cry?
Truly no one.
Yeah, I don't think so.
That you would cry.
And I love crying.
I love it.
But no, come on.
Yeah, Michael Irvin would have been that person for you.
And you think that's not a problem.
No, I'm smiling like a little bitch.
Yeah.
Giddy.
Yeah, I don't know why you would cry.
Maybe it's like he's like, mean something to you as a kid or something.
I don't know.
Do you think it's the personal achievement?
Like he's been following the sport for so long and he's been idolizing the best player in the sport and he's like my career will be fulfilled.
Not anymore you crying ass idiot Ruin that whole moment dummy dumbass.
But didn't you have never had moments like where you're like wow like I accomplished that and then you got emotional a thousand percent in private like a man.
Yeah.
It's also yes.
Can you imagine if I sat in Rogan and just started fucking tearing up right there?
It's never in the moment, right?
That clip would have went.
Yeah, that would have been when Rogan started laughing at me.
Yeah.
My career went.
It's such an honor to be here.
I've thought about this moment my whole life.
He's just like, what is going on because of you?
Can I give you a hug?
No, don't touch me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm like, think about all the achievements you've had in your life.
Do you think you would you cry in the achievement or would you afterwards afterwards?
Be in the shower and be like, holy shit, that really happened.
Shower or flight?
Flight is the best one.
That's not fair.
That's PEDs for crying.
Yeah, it is true.
But like, yeah, that nice cry on a flight, hoodie up, leaning into the window, fake looking out.
Have we talked about how your tongue gets numb on flights?
Mine doesn't get numb.
Have you heard this?
No.
Like your taste buds get less sensitive on a flight?
It's taste buds, yes, but not your tongue getting numb.
No, not numb, but like, yeah, your taste buds, like you can't taste food the same way.
Is that true?
Have we talked about it?
No, flying is the most unnatural shit.
And you said like they have to overassault food.
Apparently, yeah.
Oh, is that why I'm thirsty as fuck on a goddamn plane?
Well, there's also just no moisture.
You're getting dehydrated.
Yeah, you get very dehydrated in flying.
I'm telling you, that shit is not natural for humans.
Hears are popping out of your fucking head.
You're dehydrated.
You're crying for no reason.
36,000 times.
You're not natural.
Not natural.
Is ecstasy less natural than mushrooms?
Oh, my God.
You just not waste everybody's time.
Is ecstasy less natural?
My shot city is only doing natural drugs.
Okay.
What's your argument that you clearly lost?
He said gummies aren't natural and weed's not natural because weed's not really adulterated.
And I had nothing because I don't know about this stuff.
And thank God daddy was here in the corner.
Just bodied this motherfucker.
No problem.
And what was your argument?
Thanks, Dad.
Love you, Dad.
A lot of edibles are made from just regular weed.
The THC is extracted out and just cooked with it.
So it's still a natural product.
A lot of edibles are made from just extracted THC from weed, which is natural.
And so if you cook with the extracted THC, it's still a natural education.
So the drug itself, the drug part of it is natural.
Yeah.
Whereas in ecstasy made in a lab.
Well, I mean, gummies are made in a lab too.
You can make it in your house.
But my point is that the gummies, the weeds are green.
You can make gummies.
You can make a gummy in your house.
Like a brownie or like an edible.
Yeah.
No, edibles you can make in your house, but the gummy is like gelatin.
Gelatin.
Do you know how to make gelatin?
No, I'm sure somebody.
You can make them.
Ain't nobody made a gummy in their house, bro.
I'm sure people have made a gummy now.
Hey, I got some gummies in the oven.
You made a gummy in a science class one time in sixth grade.
Images the law.
Jell-O, gelatin, powder, and water.
Technically, you could just get some jello powder and pop it into it.
Less water.
Yeah, that's a fucking jello powder.
But my point is that the weed you're using in the first place is already all manufactured, fucking cross-contaminated.
So what you're trying to say is that the weed that we're smoking God had nothing to do with unnatural, just like the Coke and ecstasy inside an ecstasy pill is an MDMA.
Yeah, it's produced, right?
It's producing more serotonin in your brain.
I had nothing.
I had a bully, and then my dad came and grabbed him by his fucking shirt.
The serotonin in your brain is natural.
It's just making more of it.
See?
He's just saying words.
Now, mushrooms, are they all jazzed up?
I have no fucking idea.
Because weed, I believe you.
I don't know if mushrooms is all jazzed up.
I think mushrooms are jazzed up.
I thought they got to grow on a certain thing.
Like they grow on doo-doo.
Yeah, but it's like the fact that they're being such mass produced now.
It's like something just fits.
It's got to be in a laugh.
Yeah, like they can't just be grabbing it from it.
It's happening, by the way.
Okay, just keep it.
I would gladly have an outer body experience.
I had a gram of mushrooms yesterday and then watched dragons again.
Amazing.
Fire.
Seeing a fucking dragon scene and then the colors are just popping.
What's the side effect of mushrooms?
Is there any like, there's got to be a cost.
I saw Huberman say something and this is something I believe is like.
I love that you call him Huberman.
Isn't he Huberman?
I mean, I'm sorry, I'm off by like barely a sound.
Huberman.
He said it or you said it.
Huberman.
Huberman, Huberman, whatever.
My boy.
My boy.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit, that boy.
Yeah, that motherfucking boy, the brain boy.
Brain boy, brain God.
And he was saying like the quicker, the less work that goes into receiving a dopamine hit, the more dangerous it will be.
So it's like, if you get a big dopamine rush from working out, that's justified.
But if you just eat something and immediately afterwards, you're feeling absolutely amazing, there's going to be a cost that you have to pay for that.
What about sex, though?
A lot of work.
Yeah.
A lot of work.
You got to pay for a roof and a bed and rent.
What about jerking off?
And bags and rings and jewelry.
Matter of fact, it doesn't come close to the effort that you've got.
If you take porn out of it, just jerking off versus sex, is there any brain difference?
I think, don't you feel bad after you jerk off?
But with porn.
I don't feel good.
With porn, what?
Like, you got to pay the cost of jerking off, right?
For me, it's like you got to pay the cost of dopamine.
You either pay it before or after.
So with alcohol, you pay it the next day.
Okay.
Right.
With drugs, you pay it the next day.
With working out, you pay it before.
With jerking off, you might pay it after.
You might be like, did I just fucking jerk off?
Or am I a fucking loser?
There might be like this emotional component.
That's always tied to porn.
Don't feel that way after jerking off.
Yeah, I don't jerk off, really.
So I don't have that feeling, but like you lose energy.
Yeah, maybe you feel good.
I'm so tired.
Also, wait a minute.
Let me also.
You should ask Huberman about this.
But there should never be a negative reaction connected to ejaculation because we need that to keep living.
That's my question.
If you take porn out of it, I recognize that porn is changing your brain neurons, but I'm saying if you're just jerking off or having sex, is there anything happening differently physically?
Jerking off is evolutionary.
Coming is evolutionary.
Yeah, I think eventually jerking off, there would be something wrong.
It feels like there would be, but I don't know.
Maybe your brain can't decipher between that and just sex.
And you're just having in a fantasy in your brain, whatever the fuck.
I don't know.
We should ask Huberman this.
This is a great question.
Dude, this guy's going to come on and answer a lot.
Oh, he's going to sex us.
Number one thing he got to do is explain to me why my vision is minimum 20% worse from staring into the sun every single day.
Wait.
He says stare at the sun for like 10 minutes when you wake up.
Not in the sun.
The direction of the sun.
We'll say that.
Dating Apps and Sexual Intent00:15:09
I'm like this.
I'm like this getting wrinkles on my face.
I had a staring contest.
I don't know.
This is good, babe.
There's smoke coming out of my eyelids.
I don't think this is a great idea.
So we need to get to the bottom of some of these little bits of brain hacking.
And then we got to ask about women.
Do women enjoy sex?
That's another big question.
Yeah, apparently they do.
blows my mind with some people yeah yeah i had no idea yeah and then can we jerk off yes we're gonna ask him all those questions while we're talking about jerking off can you just play a video that like you would jerk off to okay yeah let's do that this guy dropped in the group chat this morning i thought it was very funny that we're gonna watch it this is a blind dating show from the cut a youtube channel where they set up two different people and they just talk and then uh and then they have to vote based off their conversation if they want to go on a second date this is what happened What is your time?
I'm definitely very into Asian men.
It's not like a deal breaker or anything.
What race do you think I am?
I have no idea.
I don't want to make assumptions.
That's great.
He's an Asian guy.
She's a white woman.
Is it Asian, maybe?
I'm Asian, actually.
Yeah.
Can we talk?
Okay.
She's a bigger girl.
Good.
Give me the hug.
Immediately passes on her.
Oh.
Boy.
Hold on.
I mean, not even subtle.
Kind of.
Is that editing?
Brutal.
There had to be some kind of pause.
He can't be that immediate.
That was like the timeline.
Kind of brutal.
But at the same time, that's the nature of the show.
Can I tell you the real bad guys?
The cut.
They set this whole thing up.
Yeah, they had this bigger girl saying, I love anime.
I love Asian dudes.
All this stuff this guy's going to want to hear.
And then the second they touch, they give him the chance to get it.
They understand that we love watching rejection.
It's like next.
Remember that MTV show?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like we don't want to watch it for the love.
But they looked at the big girl and were like, she's not going to make it far the second people see it.
They're the ones that are sexist and that phobia.
They shouldn't have let him hug.
Say again?
They shouldn't have let them hug.
Oh, because they wanted him to, that's the thing.
They wanted him to hit the red button.
Yeah, they want to.
He would have took that off and just be like, what would you do?
That's my point.
Like, you're just going to go on five dates just because you feel bad?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
She probably knows great restaurants.
Have a nice meal.
Go on a date.
Not a meal, but that's a date.
Like coffee, we could do coffee or something like that.
I'm not going to take her to fucking Golden Corral or wherever the hell she goes to.
I don't know.
Like, where are you going to take her?
What is she going to eat?
I love Golden Corral.
Sushi?
Should I throw like sushi?
Sushi?
Maybe dragon eggs?
Do you think you're going to use sushi?
What do you think that she's into?
What do you think?
You said you want to take her to Z-World.
I would never throw a little fish in her mouth.
I would never, Mark, Mark.
I would never make her go in the pool and open her mouth and throw a little fish in her mouth.
I would never do that.
I think that's what you said.
I wouldn't do that.
That's fucked up.
No, that's a rough show.
I don't know if I would, I don't want to reject someone on in front of people.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
It's brutal.
You have to have a society.
That's nothing wrong with that.
They both go on the show.
They know what could happen.
So you can't feel bad if you get rejected.
You go on the show.
That's possible.
Bro, we're both a warrior.
You kill somebody.
You still can feel a little bad.
Bro, good counterpoint.
I thought you had it.
That was a good counterpoint.
These guys had some counterpoints today.
I busted out some counterpoints.
He puts on the blazer that's like, son, I'm a journalist in PR Schultz.
Let's go out here.
Where are all my bitches?
I mean, what are they called?
On NPR, what do they call them?
What?
Women?
People at or something?
Like, where are all my humans at?
Yeah.
I don't think that's a slogan for NPR at all.
Isn't it?
I don't think so, bro.
NPR, the fucking Laurie.
Are you talking about where the NPR?
Where the hood, where the hood, where the hood?
That's DMX.
Where the hood?
They got to play that in Somalia.
Where the hood?
No, I think that that is.
Yeah, I think that's.
They got to know what the deal, what that is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't want to go with somebody who's not into it for five dates.
Yeah, you got to trick it.
Let me know, but we had a nice time either way.
Good deal.
Let's go.
I think that should be discussed before the date.
No, that's not wrong either.
How do you bring it up, though?
Like, I mean, you're talking.
Is it in your bio?
Yeah.
Like, yeah, you want it should probably be in the bio.
I got to put my height.
My height isn't torn off to many women.
Oh, shit.
That is a physical characteristic that you are judged on based on attractiveness.
Yeah.
And there are some women who are like, I just don't want, I'm just not attracted to guys that are, what are you, midget?
What do you, what is your nidget?
Is that 5'7, thank you?
Fox feel sex appeal.
You know what I mean?
So let's get it.
He's like, dwarf.
Come on, bro.
That's not.
No, no, no.
No, but they're just not attracted to guys that are shorter than them or whatever like that.
There's some women who, like, I only like guys who are like fucking 6'5 or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Lonely.
What woman said that?
I don't know, these lonely ass women will be alone for the rest of the day.
I don't like guys that make a lot of money and stuff.
That's super like a big turnoff.
They say, oh, and I say I don't like.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought I said I only like guys who are above 6'5.
Like they want like women that don't like.
I think Taylor even said, like, I was like, what is considered tall?
And she's like, I don't know, like, regular height, like 6'5 or something like that.
And I was like, what?
Remember she was talking about dicks?
She was like, he's like, it's got to be tennises.
I'm like, what?
This girl is 4'11 ⁇ .
She's walking around like a backpack.
Everyone's 6'5.
Yeah, she's 6'5.
You're like a Jeff Dunham puppet at that point.
Exactly.
So I think that it's totally okay to just not be into somebody and we don't gotta.
But I don't think you gotta disclose.
Why not?
I think you just have to disclose before it's sexual.
I'm hoping for an accident.
Yeah, don't tell me.
I just think you have to disclose before it's sexual.
I mean, you'll have to do anything.
Yeah, you don't have to, but I think it would be courteous.
Why?
Yeah, well, because it's like, yeah, well, that's a great point.
If you're pre-op, then it's like, hey, just for the record, I have a penis down here.
Is that cool with you?
But why?
Because some people might not want to interact with it.
Because you're going to see it regardless.
It's unavoidable.
Some people might not.
Why do they have to disclose?
If they don't have to disclose initially, why do they have to disclose later?
I mean, no one has to do anything.
But if you don't want to interact with a penis sexually.
But why?
What's wrong with that?
But penis is a body part, bro.
We're talking about gender.
Yeah, but some people.
This is Alex's question, but I like the line of question.
But some people don't want to suck a penis.
Get that light ready, but keep going.
What?
Get that.
This is defensible.
It's not homophobic to not want to have interactions with penis.
There's a lot of knots, bro.
Let's just do simple declarative sentences here.
Okay, go.
What's your question?
My question is, why should someone disclose before they have sex, but not before they meet?
Because if you're just meeting, it could just be an interaction at dinner.
You're just talking.
It's a date.
But the date has the intention of sexual arousal.
That's inherently true.
No, sexual undertones.
It's called a date.
If we're going to date, if we're just meeting up as friends, of course not.
You don't have to disclose anything.
But if we're meeting up for the purpose of romance, the eventual purpose of romance.
But romance isn't inherently tied to sex ultimately after the first date.
Not after the first date, but it is inherent in the idea this is potentially sexual.
It is not.
No, I'm good.
So you think going on a date with someone is not, has no romantic purpose?
That's a lot of knots.
That's a lot of notes.
Say without not.
Well, I said no.
I corrected myself.
Has no romantic purpose.
No, it is romantic, of course.
Okay, so then why should you only disclose that you have a penis after someone likes you enough to have sex?
If they like you enough to have sex, then it doesn't matter what you have, according to you, right?
Or are you saying that there's some issue with having a penis?
Are you saying there's something wrong with being trans?
Is that what you say?
Is it something they have to apologize for?
Is it someone?
Kiss me.
You guys are good.
We got something good.
That was good.
That was good.
That was fucking good.
Let's go.
I mean, we had them on the road.
He was right there on the rope.
I gave you that fuck out of it.
I don't want to touch your hand, bro.
He's gay.
But no, you do bring up a good point because your knee-jerk reaction is right.
You want to know if there's some dicks down there before you do it.
Yes.
Yeah.
That is how we feel in our hearts.
I'll have dinner with someone with a penis, whether they're a man or a woman.
Yeah, but if I'm going to have sex with a bunch of people.
You're not going to have a romantic dinner with someone with a penis.
Because you know that you won't be able to go there with it.
It doesn't mean that you're a hateful person, but you know it won't go there.
It's not bumble BFF.
This regular ass bumble.
We're on a date right now.
Yeah, but the date doesn't imply sex inherently.
No, I think it implies sex in the future.
Yes.
Or we're not interested at all.
We're not going on a date to be friends.
But if you're at the point where it's like, oh, this date's going awesome, let's have sex.
Then you go, hey, just before the sex part comes in play.
But why?
But waste the time.
Yes.
Because what if the dick is the problem?
Now you just have a pointless.
But why do I got to tell you about the dick before I even want to have sex with you?
But telling you about the penis, telling you the penis implies that there's something wrong.
It also implies you might have an issue with it.
It implies that you're closed-minded.
I'm closed-minded about dicks.
I'm super closed-minded about dicks.
Like, if you got a dick, I don't want to see it.
You don't want to see it?
Actually, I want to see dicks on dudes sometimes, but not on wiener.
I'm five minutes.
You're in a peek at a wiener, but I'm not trying to be in a romantic situation and then see dick.
That's just me.
I'm closed-minded.
So you need them to disclose before the date.
Yes.
Yes, I do.
And so, would you ask?
No.
No, you have to.
I think you should volunteer that information.
How are we going to ask?
You got to ask every girl, yo, you got a dick?
That's my question.
But you're saying that they shouldn't have to do it, which I think is the more progressive way to look at it.
But you're also acknowledging that a certain point is like, yo, cough up that wiener.
If you got a wiener.
Yeah, cough it up before I'm going to touch the wiener.
But right before the pants come down, that's even crazy.
I think there's a social contract on a date that if this goes well, it will be sexual.
There is a sexual intent here if everything goes well.
So why don't you just tell me up front so I know whether or not I want to enter into the picture?
And maybe I don't want to flirt with you.
I'm just like before we kiss or before or after we kiss, just before I see wiener.
You're kissing sexual.
Why is kissing sexual?
You kiss with parents.
You know what I mean?
You kiss.
That was kiss that.
That was sexual.
You guys kiss me because you're gay men.
That's fine, but I didn't have sexual undertones.
Why are you judging my intention?
I just want to kiss you.
Is flirting sexual?
Yeah.
So then shouldn't it be done before flirting?
They could be, yeah.
Which is our point.
The point of the date is to flirt, which is why you should say it initially.
Yeah.
It was a weak one, but it was because he broke the momentum with his little fucking mind trick.
That was genius.
But yeah, I think we all want trans people to feel comfortable.
Yeah.
The reality is that a lot of us, maybe older people, don't feel comfortable with that in a sexual way.
Just being around, hanging out, fucking busting balls, having a good time.
It doesn't matter.
It's great.
And I can't speak on behalf of trans people, but I think they would want us to feel comfortable as well.
Exactly.
And so why would they waste their time going on a date with somebody who potentially would not be interested in the trans person?
And then you're going to say it when we're at the restaurant and now it's this awkward moment.
Like we should ask the trans person, but I imagine like, yo, we're vibing.
Everything's good in the DMs.
I got to tell you something before we meet in person for their safety too, because somebody could get upset about that.
That's why these trans women get beat the fuck up.
I get why they do it.
I think it's an obligation.
You get why they beat them up, brother.
All right.
But yeah, for them.
Like, yeah, you put on your fucking outfit, you do your hair, you tuck your cock and balls into that little pocket like Shorty was saying.
Yeah.
Remember when she was describing?
And then you go and a dude's like, what?
You got a dick?
I'm out of here.
Yeah.
Like, that is humiliating.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's disclosed mostly on the dating apps.
I don't know if I am saying it like fully, but I'm saying like, why would you choose to get into this?
Why would you choose?
Because I think I have insight as a guy.
No, no, no, but I'm saying on the dating No, maybe come on out.
Here, I'll spin it on myself.
Yo, that's mad progressive of you, Miles.
Mad progressive.
Miles is the most progressive on a positive aspect.
That's the progressive answer, but in your heart, if you're speaking truthfully, speak like Kanye.
What would Kanye do?
She just runs bumble.
Yeah.
Miles' heart and brain sometimes get into a thing.
Yeah.
And it's interesting to see.
Yeah.
And I'm curious about this one.
But no, so I'm on the dating apps, and you'll be just, I only have women as the people I look for on the dating apps.
And sometimes.
What is a woman?
I don't.
But sometimes on the app, it'll be a person and they'll say, just so you know, I'm trans.
I'm da-da-da.
And you'll see that not commonly, but it will come up.
So people are disclosing even pre.
Yeah, yeah, because they just want to filter it out off rip.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But they are disclosing, like, I don't know.
I think that's.
Yeah, I think they understand the social contract of Bumble.
Yeah.
Which you're refusing to acknowledge.
It's sexual in nature.
Yeah.
For some people.
Son, come on, bro.
For anyone who's not on BFF.
Ever?
What's the L?
Unbelievable.
I mean, it was a huge L. What's wrong?
No, it's a huge L. You said that going on a date wasn't romantic.
And people are on a dating app with no intentions of dating, no intentions of romance.
No, of course.
There's an understone.
You can't say every person on every app is doing it for sex.
I can.
I can and I will.
Yeah.
They're doing it for romance.
Yeah.
Okay.
What does romance lead to?
Sex.
Okay.
So that means every person on the dating app is there for sex.
So we just said.
Yeah, but not everything turns into romance.
Not everything turns into sex.
Also, you said kissing was sex and flirting with sex.
It's not sex.
It's sexual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you have to disclose before being sexual.
Yeah.
But if you go on a date and all of a sudden you see the guy's like 5'2 and you're like, oh, I don't want to date him, even though I have a dick.
It's like, do I even have to say the dick part?
I don't want to fuck you and then I can bounce.
You wanted to go on a date, though.
Yeah.
The dates implied that they're saying, hey, do we both drink?
That's going on.
You have to be disclosed on the dating app.
It doesn't have to.
No, they ask for your height.
And if you say, I'm not going to answer, you disclose.
Just lie.
Yeah, you could lie.
You don't have to say anything.
Yeah, but then you lied.
But if you don't want to fucking...
That's on you.
If you don't want to die.
I'm 5'7.
If you're with it, great.
Most of you won't be.
That's fine.
But you don't have to disclose your height.
You don't have to disclose any of those things other than...
It's dangerous for short guys, too.
I lied, said I was 6'4, showed up to date.
They saw my real height.
I could be beat up.
It's dangerous for short people, bro.
6'3 girls.
Yeah, it's dangerous.
A lot of women could fuck me up.
You know what I mean?
They can feel duped.
Yeah.
I empathize with trans women.
But if you just don't want to fuck a dude, you can be like, yeah, I'm not going to.
And I'm not going to tell you that I'm trans.
You just got passed on by what you thought was just a biological cis woman, but actually I'm a translation.
You should at least pay half if you're not going to disclose, right?
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Should you pay the whole thing?
Should you pay half?
I think you just pay for it.
Pay for it.
I think you pay for it.
Yeah.
That's definitely the right thing.
Now, while we're talking about the trans thing.
Hollywood news, if you want.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Some breaking Hollywood news.
Go.
James Gunn, director of Guardians of the Galaxy, the new suicide squad, has just become the head of DC Studios at Warner's, which is like in that industry, you never put a director.
The director hasn't really been in charge.
So he's going to be green lighting director overseeing their slate.
So that could be a whole new direction for all that.
Todd Phillips will still handle his like Joker and probably his dark movies his way.
And then Matt Reeves has the Batman world.
They don't know who's going to control that, but everything else, animation, TV, film, under James.
That's crazy because James Gunn got canceled.
They tried to say he was a pedophile because he made some kid fucking jokes and he was just too nice at making movies.
And eventually they forgave him.
He came back.
Now he's doing it.
So does Kanye have a road to redemption?
I think he was clearly joking is the difference.
They were jokes.
And DC is this lets me know how much DC is hating all their own movies.
Yeah.
That they're like, just get the Marvel guy.
I'm done.
Yeah.
Well, look, I think that James Gunn is an absolutely talented motherfucker.
He's brilliant.
The question is, will he be talented in a managerial role?
That is a different thing.
You know, he's talented when he has his hands on it.
He's that.
He's one of the greatest in the world alive at making movies.
I mean, the Guardians of the Galaxy movies are fantastic.
And you should not care about the Guardians of the Galaxy.
I didn't even know that was a comic book.
And then the movie comes out.
This shit is fire.
I had no emotional investment in Guardians of the Galaxy.
Watched the movie.
Loved it.
Yeah.
Marvel is great about doing that with movies I didn't even know were going to exist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's weird.
Yeah, it's weird.
Even like even Thor, before the movies, you heard of Thor, but none of us knew anything about him.
And now he's one of the best superhero characters in the entire Marvel universe.
Yeah.
You know, he's taking on a tough role, yo.
The DC audience is super splintered.
Like, there's like a core group that they like that Snyder guy, the Snyder.
Snyder, Zach Snyder.
I did not like that.
Yeah, and like they just won't like anything DC unless he has a part in it.
So it's like.
I think the issue with DC is the source material isn't as good.
They don't have complex villains.
Like their villains are just all their.
Let me just get it out.
Let me just get it out.
The villains for Superman are incredibly simple.
I'm fire alien guy.
They don't want anything.
Like the beauty of Marvel is the villain is relatable and they made what the villain wants to be reasonably relatable.
Thanos might be right.
Exactly.
Every one of them might be right.
Even when you have X-Men, it's Magneto.
Are you looking out for the mutants that are getting oppressed?
So it's like all of a sudden they make sense.
Every one of the DC in the Superman world is like, okay, I got Superman.
Now I got water Superman.
Now I got woman Superman.
Now I got Running Fast Superman.
They all got the same fucking skill set.
There's nothing unique or different.
Like, what's the origin story?
Get us into it.
So they're almost like more video games than they are these like complex stories.
What they've done with Batman, I think, is awesome.
But the source material for Marvel is like on another level.
Lex Luthor is just a bad guy.
You don't see Lex Luthor.
There's no redeemable quality.
You're not looking at his point of view and be like, it would be nice to run the world.
We shouldn't like him to do that.
You're looking at Thanos like, yo, this shit might be the solution to everything.
Thanos don't even want to hang out.
He's like, I want to fix your problems and leave.
I don't even want to be worshipped.
Even in the last one, he's like, the only mistake I made is y'all remember everybody.
Now I'm just going to get rid of half the population and you won't know what happened.
I was like, that sounds kind of perfect.
Yep.
Yeah.
Why are we stopping this?
I'll give a little pushback because like in the comics, there is some depth with some of the characters, especially Lex Luther, because they actually grow to like him and start to hate Superman at a certain point.
So it's like there is some depth in the characters.
And I think it's more so the writing and the creativity because just because the comics have it like black and white, you can add that stuff.
You can add, you can mine more.
I mean, you should wait for this, wait for Charlemagne to continue on this.
They did it with the Joker, right?
Like that source material wasn't really there, but they had great writers.
I think the source material with the Joker there, like the one thing that the Joker wants for Batman is to do the thing that Batman refuses to do, which is kill.
And the Joker is willing to let himself be killed by the Batman.
Like the pieces of those stories that they added in.
He's saying that might not necessarily be in the comic book.
That might be something that the writer of the movie is.
This Agent of Chaos thing.
I think that existed, but you're right.
Yeah, they made it definitely more complex.
I will give it that.
So if you add that same complexity to all the other DC characters.
Why haven't they?
Well, that's their issue.
That's what they've just leaned into the action and not so much the story.
And that's where they've gone wrong.
Can I be honest?
I think the reason why Thor has become way more like comedic is because the bad guys that he's going up against aren't that interesting.
So they're like, we got to make this a comedy because the bad guys are just, I'm Destroy Worlds guy.
They did a great job with the last one of giving him purpose.
He wants to destroy gods because a god was the reason why he suffered.
That's smart.
But God destroyer guy.
Yeah, I'm evil incarnate.
Loki was just some angry kid.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I get it.
You're adopted.
You're not happy about it.
The fuck you want.
Yeah.
Right.
But this is a cool shakeup.
And he's partnering with his producing partner.
So that he'll decide on things on an executive level.
And then James Gunn will go creative.
So the other thing Marvel does is be funny.
If these movies weren't funny, I think we for sure would have lost interest way earlier.
At least I would have.
And I know you would have.
Thora, I remember watching with you.
Case Rosso made us go.
And we were both like, why the fuck are we watching this?
And then it was funny.
And we were like, yo, we're in.
Tycha Whitey T.
Yeah, he's nice.
Is it possible that DC led the cancellation against James Gunn in order to decrease his own stock value so that they could buy him up on the low?
Is it possible?
Oh my God.
Where is that conspiracy?
Oh, yeah.
That shit seems a little convenient.
And if I was them, that's what I would do.
I would find the best people in Hollywood.
I would lead a charge to make them look crazy and then scoop them up when no one else will touch them.