Dave Chappelle and Isaiah Lee's Hollywood Bowl clash sparks a debate on whether Chris Rock's silence normalized violence, with hosts linking the attack to copycat behavior seen in school shootings and the Oscars slap. They question if racial dynamics or psychosis drove the 23-year-old rapper, who gained notoriety via a song titled "Dave Chappelle," while emphasizing that low consequences for such acts threaten comedian safety. Ultimately, the discussion argues Rock must sue or address the incident to set a vital precedent against targeting performers on stage. [Automatically generated summary]
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Dave Chappelle Gets Attacked00:08:00
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Dave Chappelle gets attacked on stage at the Hollywood Bowl.
The Netflix is a joke festival.
Can't let Chris Rock have nothing.
You know what I mean?
First one's had a month, bro.
He had a month where he was the guy.
Tell you.
I think he paid for it.
Really?
Exhausted Alex Smedia.
I think he paid for it.
Come on.
I mean, worth the money, but do you really think though?
But if he did, though, if he did, though.
Nah, Chappelle was like a G, because he did not get taken.
Yeah, I get taken.
When wrestling, you know, when they shoot, he fucking backed up.
And yeah, like, and he had kind of funny lines to say after it.
Like, in that moment, you're shook.
Somebody runs up on stage.
And apparently the dude had like a weapon or whatever.
Yeah, like a knife.
Or a fake gun is also a knife-shaped knife.
Now, do we have right now?
We're recording this on Wednesday, so we don't have all the information about this guy.
I'm sure they're going to go through his tweets and find out everything he ever did, etc.
And we'll know that very soon.
It looks like it was something similar to this.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
So, Wayne, he like, whoa, whoa.
He apparently had that on him when he was arrested.
Like, oh, it was on his body, but he wasn't like attacking Dave with it.
That's, yeah, they're not sure, but that's what it seems like.
Do we know anything about this guy?
Like, do we know what community he's part of?
Isaiah Lee, 23 years old.
I just saw that he wasn't white, and I was like, he could be tan.
He could be tan white.
Isaiah.
When was the last time he met a white Isaiah?
Good point.
Apparently, he had a social media font.
According to this article from TMZ, he had 32,000 followers and only follows 80 people, Dave Chappelle being one of them.
Hmm.
And what is his vibe?
He's going to get more followers in there.
What does he do?
I mean, look at him.
God damn.
So he's Asian.
He looks a little bit, but he also got punched in the face a lot.
So that's why.
Oh, my God.
They're just a little bit more close from the repeated punches in the face.
We're not taking another one.
What?
You're not taking another one?
Why do black males hate comedy?
Why do black males hate black comedy?
Why do black males hate black comedy?
Why do you think Asian men hate comedy?
Black on black comic crime.
Yo, black or black crime with the comedy world, man.
This is disgusting.
Watch out with them jokes.
You get it too.
I'm just saying, but is it?
I mean, I don't want it to happen.
We got two more shows left on this tour.
All right, infamous tour is almost over.
You got two more chances in Vancouver to get me.
Follow what?
No, okay, yeah.
Don't get me.
I don't want anybody to get me.
It is just a wild time, man.
Fuck.
I don't know.
What do you guys think about it?
Some people are blaming Will Smith.
Okay.
Where they're like, oh, this is Will Smith's fault.
He normalized attacking comedians and he slapped a comedian and everyone cheered, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, I don't really think that has anything to do with it.
It's not his fault.
It's just people don't do things because they're normal.
They do things for attention.
And Will Smith doing it got crazy attention.
This is going to get crazy attention.
More people will continue to do it as long as it gets the attention.
It's like the, I don't know if they said this about school shootings or like, or terror, but they said the more the media puts it out, the more they end up happening.
Right, you're like copycat shit.
Basically, yeah.
Because you get attention from it.
Exactly.
And this kid's going to get crazy attention.
Apparently he's a rapper.
Oh, that's.
Yeah.
And apparently he has a song called Dave Chappelle.
Yeah.
It's just such a weird thing, man.
I think it's good he got his ass beat, though.
Yeah.
That precedent should be said.
If you fuck with a comic on stage, you will get your ass beat.
Yeah.
I mean, they fucked him up, but some people were mad at Dave Chappelle because apparently he came out and he said, Oh, I stomped him backstage.
I always wanted to do that or something like that.
Why are you mad at him for that?
People are like, Oh, like, why are you jumping in?
No, he said they're stomping him backstage.
Oh, I thought he said that I stomped him.
Yeah, I think he said he stopped though.
If you watch the video, he doesn't leave the stage ever.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they're stomping that.
He says a really funny line.
He goes, Uh, he goes, Thank God that was clumsy.
Like, what a great word, you know, like, oh, it's just fucking hilarious.
Man, son, that really does show the difference between Rock and Chappelle, right?
What Rock is just in complete shock and then just goes, Will Smith just slapped the shit out of me.
All right, so we're here to give the best documentary, but not the goat.
Chris Rock got his revenge, though.
Ah, because he came on on the mic and he was just like, Yo, was that Will Smith?
Yeah, he did pop in.
We, son, months later, that's the best shit you got, bro.
He's waiting to get paid.
Why are you going to put it out just for like whatever?
He's like, Oh, I could just take this to Netflix.
No, but he did apparently say, I put out clips every week, but Chris Rock's already Chris Rock.
You know what I mean?
Son, weak come better.
Come better.
Come better, son.
I mean, it's like off the cuff.
Like, another person got attacked.
Like, you're not like writing bits to be like, all right, when someone else gets attacked, here's what I'll say.
I'm just saying he should have gay, but he still hasn't, he still hasn't lit up Will Smith.
It is true.
He is not.
I think he just went.
He's legit old news now.
He's not even the most recent comedian to get attacked on stage.
That's funny.
Yeah, you still haven't responded.
I think he's on some Kardashian shit.
Like, stuff happens to the Kardashians, and then they do a show about it four, you know, four months later.
No, you know, and then they cash in on the Chris Rock, that's exactly who you want to be compared to.
Yeah, yeah, good call.
But now, though, he's like 55, like, he doesn't want to be in that like rat race social media.
Yeah, 55-year-old dude.
Yeah, 100%.
Like, what are you thinking?
He's going to have a documentary about it or something like that.
How is he going to make money about this?
He'll do a comedy special, but he's got to work it out.
So, you're saying he goes into the clubs, works it out in the clubs.
Yeah, and ideally, stuff doesn't leak, or he'll put people's phones in cases.
Ah, I see.
Then he works it out and talks about it.
He like does an exclusive, whatever, and then gets paid from it that way.
But I hear he's not working at any jokes about Will.
Yeah, I don't know if he was in that.
That's whack.
That's whack.
That's the whackest shit ever.
He's the fucking goat, and that's whack.
Yeah, well, Dave, that's why Dave's the goat.
Well, we'll see if Dave works it out.
I mean, Dave's already working.
Dave's already cooking.
Dave might have better jokes about Will Smith slapping Chris Rock than Chris had about Will Smith.
He's been working on problems.
Yeah, he's been workshopping.
God damn, why the fuck wouldn't Chris do it?
I don't know, man.
He's just so fucking robotic about his process, and that's great.
It's gotten him some of the best specials of all time, but this is a time when I think you need to disengage from that.
You know what I mean?
Is that your king?
He also might be fucking up.
He was my God.
He is my God.
He might be fucked up for real, though, man.
What do you mean?
Will Smith slapped him on live television?
He might, it's like, oh, bro, you got to say something.
He might be like, bro, what the?
He might still be like, bro, I don't even know how I feel.
I can't get my dick hard.
He probably can't get hard and shit.
He's a slap, son.
Shut up.
No, it's not a slap.
That's not a regular slap.
Fresh prince of Bel Air slapped you at the Oscars.
In front of the world.
That's different.
And you're the God.
You are a God to people.
And it's like, nah, nigga, you can bleed.
It's like when the Persian king got hit with the little dude.
That's all I needed to do was show that you ain't, bro.
You ain't that.
Oh, no.
And now look at everybody.
We're shitting on Chris Rock, but that's you can't.
We're just shitting on him.
And it's because it's funny.
He's a fucking God in the thing that we do.
Yeah.
Like, bro, that's not a normal slap.
You know where a good place would be to talk it out?
Is the stage?
The best.
You know what I mean?
If you want to work things out, you could do that on stage.
I got to at least hear a reason why he doesn't feel comfortable doing it.
I already just said the hour is written or some shit like that.
Chris Rock Slapped at Oscars00:10:32
Come on.
That's just a letdown for us, obviously, selfishly.
Like, yeah, he wants to put the hour out in the way that he wants to put it out, sure.
But like, selfishly, we're like, nah, we'd like to see you talk on this.
At a certain point, you got to talk about it.
Yeah, I mean, that's unfortunate.
Damn, man.
Yeah, it is wild.
You think that this will continue to happen?
Oh, yeah.
Really?
For a little bit.
Yeah, it's going to be a thing.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I better watch out.
I don't know about you.
I'm a great fighter, so I'll be all right.
Are you at all concerned?
You know what I used to say even beforehand?
I was like, I'm not trying to hurt anybody's feelings.
So if you legit don't want to be talked to, just give me a little thing and I'll move on.
I hate that awkward shit where somebody's like, yo, shut the fuck up, move on.
And then we got to do that.
And I got to pretend I'm ready to fight you, even though we both know I'm not.
You know what I mean?
So I'll say that shit early on in shows.
Like, as I'm teasing somebody, I'll be like, yo, by the way, just thing.
If you don't want to be talked to, that's fine.
Just let me just give me one of these.
I'll move on.
So I think it disengages a lot of that shit.
But that is a thing I've had to think about being 5'7 for years doing comedy, talking shit to people.
Yeah.
Like, you got to be wary of the line.
And I, you know, you genuinely don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.
If Chris knew Jada was a witch, he probably wouldn't have said that shit.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
No, no, that's a good ass point.
Yeah, that's a good ass point.
Yeah.
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Are we gonna, are we gonna go through a time where like comedians start being victims?
It's like, oh, we're under attack.
Yes, yes, we do that all the time.
That's all we do.
That's all we do.
They don't let me say jokes anymore.
I can't say words.
I'll be doing that shit.
Yeah.
Fuck, is that what we do?
Yeah, are we just crying ass bitches?
Yep.
Yeah.
Black people, you see how you want?
Black people are the funniest.
You cry the most, you're the funniest.
You're the funniest, bro.
Yeah, I'm wondering, like, what do we do with this?
What do we do with this as comics?
I think there's probably more security at like really high-level shows.
Yeah, I think you got to set the precedent of beating the shit out of people who walk on stage.
How does bro get through his dumb life?
Yo, DCM Fly had he got walking stage, knocked his ass out, knocked his ass out, knocked his ass out.
And it didn't go back to jokes, like stood there and let everybody know.
Like, I will fuck all y'all up.
He got in with that thing.
I love him.
How do you get in with that?
Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Hollywood Bowl.
You know what I mean?
That's fucking wild, though.
Yeah, that is absolutely ridiculous.
That's crazy.
This is from TMZ.
Now, do we know anything about this guy?
And was he upset about the trans stuff?
Like, what was he upset about?
It doesn't seem like there's a...
There's no motive yet.
Motive, no.
Talking about the psychotic episode.
What?
What?
I think I'm having one.
No, no.
The psychotic episode, right?
That's kind of interesting.
This is why this will continue to happen.
People will continue to have psychotic breaks, and now they have an outlet for that psychosis.
Attacking a comedian just wasn't something that existed, so they don't think about doing it.
They're like, oh, let me shoot up a school or let me go yell at people on the street or let me go jump on a fucking dumpster or something.
This is just another thing you can do now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like the school shooting shit became a trend.
It's not like it always existed throughout history.
It's a TikTok challenge.
Yes.
So this is a new TikTok challenge, essentially, for crazy people.
Crazy people are going to start to see that this is something you can do and can get attention for and you're fighting the good fight or whatever.
And once that psychosis starts spinning, there's really no stopping it.
So 100% this is going to happen again.
Also, what's really interesting to me is at any level.
We're talking about the Oscars and the Hollywood Bowl.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Because in your head as a comic, you do, like, like you said, when that funny bone, you getting killed.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm expecting that, too.
I'm like, there's nobody in the security, but I'm at the Hollywood bowl.
The security don't even tell them to stop talking.
You guys are like yo, can you tell us table seven to shut the fuck up, please?
Please just do it on stage.
And I got to kick them out from on stage.
From on stage, you are done, bro.
When you in a tux at the Hollywood Bowl, bro, there is a level of like, all right, I'm beyond that now.
Yeah.
No one's going to run up here.
Yep.
So that's what's crazy to me is that like, bro, the boldness to do this shit at any kind of venue is like, huh, well, that's definitely new.
Getting up on them stages isn't easy.
Those stages at a theater, like that shit, you need to like hike your pants.
Every time we're at a theater.
Every time we're at a theater, they put security standing up on stage.
You go, I don't want them standing.
I don't like them.
I don't like them staring at the crowd, judging them.
I like them to be something else.
Now they're going to be there with me.
That shit right there.
This shit will be like Def Jam where motherfuckers are sitting at the cocktail tables.
That's going to be my security.
You should air marshal.
You should air marshal.
But it's just like some guy that's hanging out on the stage, like a photographer, but he's strapped.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Secret of Tarvin.
I've been taking pics.
Yo.
That's great, right?
100%.
Yeah.
I mean, fuck, man.
Vala.
Two more shows, boy.
I'm going to need to see all that karate you be fake practicing around the studio.
Who was airboxing, bro?
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to need you to do that.
Someone pulls up.
Didn't he have something happen at a show?
Rogan?
I remember one time the lights went out and just how serious that was.
Just that moment of like, fuck.
Because he was on stage and you could feel it from him too.
Just like, fuck.
Because it's like the Joker in this bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really hard.
It was like, it's China in this bitch.
Whoever's mad at this nigga today.
Because people hate him.
For real.
And hate and psychosis is a terrifying thing.
And that's the thing that happened with Chappelle.
It's Motherfucker Start Day.
For the first time in my life, people start to hate him.
It was different when he went to Africa.
Motherfuckers didn't hate him.
They're like, is he crazy?
Like, what's going on?
This was hate.
Yeah.
And if you're a crazy person and you're filled with hate, that's a dangerous combination.
There's also like a God thing.
I was like, because I think a lot of niggas look Joe like a god too, especially.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, Dave is like a hero.
He's a goat.
He's like bigger than a human being, but he's also hated by some people.
And like, there's like a rift.
You know what I mean?
I feel like crazy people are.
For how much he's celebrated, those people that hate him hate him even more now.
Maybe, yeah, yeah.
If he was just some strange unanimous hate or unanimous.
It's hard to hate somebody that's not that.
I wasn't implying that everybody hates him.
Like a community started to hate him.
I don't think there was any community.
People might have been apathetic towards him.
They might have been like, oh, that's not my favorite comic.
But nobody was like, I hate that guy for how funny and awesome his jokes and movies are.
People say that.
People say, I hate Dave or I hate Johnny.
I hate Dave Factory.
Yeah, you're right.
Nobody's to say, I hate the Fear Factor guy.
Who hated the Fear Factor guy?
But now people hate him because he can say some shit that can sway politics.
And it ain't even sane people hating you that's the problem because sane people can make rational decisions.
It's there are people who are insane out there.
Mentally ill people.
Something to spend their time on.
Yeah.
Someone to spend their time on.
Yeah.
And if it's this guy everybody says sucks.
All right.
That's the guy.
Yeah.
I mean, fuck that.
I don't think the Will, I think that Will Smith shit, in a way, not like all comedians.
It's just like it did.
It put a rift in like the zeitgeist of culture.
You know what I mean?
Like it just, it did something.
I don't know what, but it did something.
And the fact that that Dave Chappelle thing happened right after is like, it did something.
Yep.
There was a move.
It moved shape.
That guy isn't doing that to Dave if Will didn't do that first.
I agree.
And he knew he was going to get lumped the fuck up, but it was worth the lumping for the attention it was going to give him.
And people are willing to take these shots for attention.
They saw nothing.
He goes, oh, that's actually maybe the worst thing that nothing happened to Will.
If Will got lumped up emotionally or in some way.
The opposite of that happening.
Yo, he got celebrated.
You sat there, they all clapped.
They had a fucking standing elevation for him.
And that is on Chris.
And that is on fucking Chris.
So, yo, Chris is partially responsible for this happening.
No, no, no, What I mean is he's not responsible for this guy doing that to Dave.
But the fact that, like, no, you know, pressing charges might have been corny or something like that.
But just like, yo, you can't come to the Oscar for 10 years, whatever corny shit that was.
Like, that means you get all the attention, all the adulation.
Because please believe there are people in certain communities that are saying that guy that attacked Dave, he's a hero.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
He's a hero.
So he got all the love and attention from the people that he wants the love and attention from.
He don't want it from the haters.
He wants it from the celebrators, right?
So he got all the love and attention he wants.
Now he got lumped the fuck up.
And it needs to be extra on top of that.
Like, dude, got to go to jail.
Or else this is going to keep happening.
What is the price you're willing to pay for the clout?
If the price is low, which it was in Mill Smith, Will Smith's case, other people are willing to pay that price too.
I just walk around slapping people and nothing happens to me.
Shit.
That's why they stopped showing, literally, why they stopped showing streakers during sports games.
Because they're like, oh, we don't have enough punishment for this.
But if we keep showing this, it's going to happen so much more.
So now that's why it don't happen as much anymore because every time it happens, they don't show it at all.
The camera will just shift or go to commercial immediately.
Same thing for fights in the stands at boxing matches.
Yeah, if Will got fucked up.
Or just Chris, if Chris would have verbally just fucked him up right after.
Just destroyed him.
Will Smith Jail Precedent00:01:01
I wish he just said the fucking thing.
Yeah.
That would have set a precedent of like.
Or something back in that.
Or he came out and said, no, I'm suing that motherfucker.
Fuck him.
Like, if you just, I don't care if you think it's pussy.
You know, it's pussy.
Just walk up to someone who you think you're friendly with.
You know what's going to slap them?
Fuck your wife.
They would have been like, yeah.
Yeah.
But no, for real.
Like, just something like, no, you're not going to kill me.
I already said that.
I would sue him for $100 million.
100%.
And that's 100% what I would have done.
Yep.
Johnny Depp suing for 50.
Chris Rock can sue for 100.
That shit was millions of people.
A billion people saw Chris Rock get slapped.
Yep.
100 million is nothing.
Yep.
It's like 10 cents a person or whatever the fuck that is.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Bro, you're already on Mount Rushmore and then the whole world's perception changes of you.
Yeah.
Like that's wild.
Now you got to pay for that.
I don't know if Will comes back, bro.
The King Richard, we were talking about this earlier.
The King Richard was supposed to be.
What was the company?
Because he felt his movie sucked.
And then that was like, and he kills it.
I mean, bro, he makes you cry and it's such a great film.