Sheltie, Dove, Miles, and Mark debate parenting dynamics in "Flagrant 2," contrasting gay men's alleged promiscuity with lesbians' cohabitation habits while speculating on surrogacy. The group recounts intense drug experiences, from Sheltie's morphine "hug" to Akash's propofol-induced love texts and Mark's Molly-fueled Mexico City airport encounter. They weigh superpower options like penile amputation versus enlargement before discussing dog euthanasia ethics, which triggers Mark's story about wrestler Matt Jello convincing him to avoid steroids. Ultimately, the clip blends controversial social commentary with raw personal anecdotes to challenge listeners' assumptions on family structures and substance use. [Automatically generated summary]
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Two Moms or Two Dads00:05:05
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What's gayer?
Two moms or two dads.
Two dads.
Dads, not even close.
Yeah, yeah.
Girls aren't gay.
Yeah.
What if it's two butch moms?
Not gay.
Cargo shorts.
Not gay.
Two butch moms versus two flamboyant gay dudes.
I think women trade gay for company.
Wait, what?
Like I said, I think sometimes women trade gay for company.
Like they'll just be like, or trade in their heterosexuality just for company.
Okay.
You know, so it's like, the majority of your day is not fucking.
Yeah.
But it might be, you know, hanging out with somebody, being with them, enjoying that time.
And then the commitment to fuck a girl.
Yeah.
It's not that much investment, right?
Yeah.
When does it end?
Whenever.
Yeah.
Like, it's just like the whole thing is for that.
Girls have already penetrated it.
Yeah.
I can do sex on a timer.
Just be like, yo, it's just sex.
Let's do three minutes of sex.
Who cares?
It's fine.
It is what it is.
It's not invasive.
Like, you have to deal with family scrutiny, maybe, but like, maybe you're already dealing with it.
So you're like, who gives a fuck?
Now, with that being said, which would you rather have?
Two moms or two dads?
Ooh.
Oh, wow.
That's tricky.
Honestly.
Please be two moms, yo.
I might go two dads.
Because I'm thinking two lesbian moms raising me.
I'm like, I don't know.
I feel like as a guy, I want two dads.
I would want one butch mom because she's going to overcompensate and be like big on me, watching sports with me and all that other dad shit.
Yeah.
Play catch with me.
Then she's going to overcompensate.
As what a woman thinks a man is.
Fire.
I'd rather get raised by a man, even if he's super flamboyant.
I'm like, all right.
At least he's still a dude.
You know what I mean?
I disagree.
Butch mom, regular lesbian.
Yeah, I'm thinking two moms.
Yeah, thinking two moms.
It'd be so loving.
It'd be so loving at home, dude.
So caring.
Two butch lesbians?
You think that's going to be more loving than two flamboyant dads?
Yeah, average fucking lulu.
Babies will break the toughest dyke.
They'd be breaking them, bro.
Also, two dads, they adopted that kid.
They picked one out.
They wanted him.
Yeah.
Whereas like two moms, like, she just, one was a surrogate.
They had to pick which one.
It's a whole thing.
Yeah, but gay dudes don't want to raise kids.
They want to be doing meth and sucking cocks in like fucking dungeons and shit.
You know what I mean?
Like that's where their brains are.
Whereas like lesbians just want to like they do.
That's their passion.
That's their passion, dude.
There's an underground space where they could suck cocks and do meth or ketamine.
That's where they would do it.
But lesbians, they want to like, you know, cohabitate.
They want to be around.
Watch fucking shows together.
Like, you know, just grow old together.
I think it would work better.
I do think it would work better.
Yeah, I agree.
I don't know if they'll make it.
I don't know.
I think that lesbians, I think they could be like fast, fast lovers and then like break up quick.
But if it was like a real strong lesbian couple, like one of them old-timey lesbian couples forever, like maybe they started a time where they had to just be homies and then it became okay to be gay.
But before that, they were just homies.
Yeah.
They made it through all that.
Oprah and Gale.
You want an Oprah and Gale?
There we go.
That's what you want.
I honestly think so.
I think the household stable would be more stable with two dudes.
You want your dads going out date night, coming back fucking like all these different color lipsticks on her dick?
And going to fucking rainbow party.
You hear them?
Can you imagine catching dad's parents fucking?
Yeah.
You never see a dad's dick, dog?
You're gonna see double dad dick, dude.
That's crazy.
Yo, that's crazy.
And neither of those dicks are you.
You're adopted.
Yeah.
So now you're just seeing stranger dicks.
That's just me and my homies kicking it.
Like, that's just me and two guys.
Locker.
I guess.
Yeah, we're just hanging out.
I don't know, baby.
Whereas you got to be the man of the house.
It's not even close.
Dove, Miles.
You don't got to worry about your parents fucking you neither if you're lesbians.
What?
Because they don't like guys, but dudes.
They like guys.
And they just raised the perfect one.
You know what I mean?
They groomed you.
Yo, they done groomed you.
That's a I don't think it would happen.
And I'm not saying this is what gay people do.
Matter of fact, I don't think gay people do this, but it could happen.
It can't happen with the gays.
But what do lesbians have sex with?
Dildos?
And they're like, hey, there's a real dildo in our house.
They got 10 dildos right here.
You know what I mean?
Get the Spider-Man in.
Like, I don't think they need you.
Yeah, it's not a game.
It's bad.
It's not a bad way.
You're getting your dick sucked by a girl.
Imagine this, you and some fucking kettlebell.
You need to see somebody?
Groomed by the Perfect One00:10:55
Oh, what is that shit called?
Ketamo.
Ketamine?
Kettle hole.
You're in a K-hole.
You're in a K-hole.
Imagine your dad's come home there in some deep, dark K-hole, and they just stuff, you know, stuff in your mouth with dicks.
But that could happen with lesbians.
No, they don't have dicks to stuff your body.
But they come back from the farmer's market and they're like, man, we got to just get a dick in here.
And you have one.
Yeah, but then it's falling inside of them.
Big deal.
You're fucking a lady.
Yeah, but that's your mom that actually gave birth to you surrogate style.
That's way weirder.
Nah, that is weirder, but she would never do that.
You're just back to where you were.
That's not even sex.
A mom would that's just rewind.
Yo, if you fuck your mom, that's rewind.
It's birthright.
It's birthright.
That's birthright.
We're going home today.
I finished the promise.
Like a Native American.
Hell yeah.
Fuck your shit you left there.
You're like, I love that.
Let's go.
Fuck your mom.
Run it back.
You never want to run it back.
Feet first.
What's that thing called when you come out feet first?
Breach.
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Okay, what do we got?
What up, Flagrant 2?
Just wondering, what is the hardest drug you've ever taken?
And when and what was the best high or trip you've ever had?
Ooh.
I know your answer, unless it was burning, man.
The hardest drug I did was, oh, God.
What is the prescription painkiller that they give you?
Vicodin, oxycontin, ketamine.
Propofol.
No, It's similar to maybe propovol, but it's like fentanyl.
No, no, no.
Like you're basically on your deathbed.
They give it to you.
Morphine?
Morphine.
Milk of the poppy.
Milk of the poppy.
No, morphine.
I did, I'm pretty sure I was put on morphine when I had extreme back pain in college.
Oh, shit.
I like pulled my back.
Do you remember I used to pull my back and I'd be fucked up for like weeks at a time?
Do you remember this at all?
How'd you get back pain?
I just pulled my back.
Getting it blown out?
Back blown or something?
Getting it just blown out.
I got my back blown out.
Wait, how'd you hear your back?
This happens to me all the time.
You guys have probably seen me fucked up like this.
There's something with the left side of my back.
The muscles are tight or something like that.
I don't know what the fuck it is.
That's the same thing.
Okay, go.
Every time my back hurts, it's the left side and like along your spine.
It's like on the inside, left side.
Me too, guys.
Lower?
Lower, yeah.
I'm upper.
Oh.
Okay.
But problem is for me, and I'm sure you do the same movement, and whatever the movement is, it exacerbates that issue that you have.
So I have like this tight left side.
So when I would play basketball, if I jump up to block a shot or jump to get a rebound really quick, it stretches the muscle.
It muscle already doesn't stretch.
And then it contracts more.
And then the next day you feel off.
I'm done for a week to two weeks.
Yeah.
Cannot do anything.
Can't even move.
First time it happened, I was fucked up.
And I was on that morphine, boy.
That shit was fire.
It was the best feeling I've ever had in my life.
Yeah, it felt like I think someone described it.
I don't want to take this, you know, take credit for it, but it was just like the best hug you've ever gotten.
I think people said heroin.
And it's basically heroin.
And I felt so warm, so cozy.
It was just unbelievable.
Oh, that's so great.
Yeah, I'm thinking about it even right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was the hardest drug I ever did.
Yeah.
Akash?
CBD.
No, I did propofol.
I was in the hospital one time.
They put me on propofo.
You did the Michael Jackson shit?
Son, that shit was amazing, dude.
Really?
I was so happy.
I was texting everybody.
I knew how much I loved them.
But like, also in an honest way, like I texted the While One Out thread that I was on, like, God, you guys are so talented.
I love y'all so much.
They don't pay y'all shit, man.
Y'all deserve better.
And I was like, I texted my wife, the girlfriend at the time, you're so sweet.
I love you so much.
You annoy me sometimes, but you're the best, dude.
I love you.
I was telling everybody I loved him, but also like shitting on him a little bit.
You're lucky you didn't get those mixed.
You didn't text your girl like, girl, you don't get paid enough.
You deserve better.
She's like, yeah, you're right.
You are right.
It was so happy, dude.
It was wow.
I missed the flagrant episode, and I wanted to call in, but I think when I called, you guys didn't answer at the time.
Y'all were like recording.
And I wanted to just fucking be high on the podcast.
It's been so funny.
All right, Mark, what about you?
I guess hard.
I don't know what hardest means.
Come on.
I mean, like, I've smoked weed, drank alcohol, and then did Molly one time.
Yeah, yeah.
You did Molly one time.
Oh, yeah, you did mushrooms.
Oh, yeah, I did half a little chocolate, but I didn't feel that at all.
I didn't really do anything.
Molly is pretty hard.
Yeah, dude.
What counts as hardness, though?
Molly to me is illegal.
Well, how illegal is Molly?
Illegal.
Illegal.
So it's a stage, what is it?
Schedule one.
Schedule one.
Isn't weed also scheduling?
I don't know.
But yeah, Molly's harder.
Can you die from it?
Can you die from weed?
Alcohol, I guess you could die from it.
That's hard.
Yeah.
But I get weird because in my mind, hardness is like intensity.
So like, yeah.
Like you do like Coke.
It's like super intense.
Like your heart's beating crazy.
Have you done Coke?
No.
But like that's what it looks like.
You're like sweating.
It's like anxious.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like you do other drugs.
Like you trip.
You just aren't even on earth anymore.
Yeah.
DMT and shit.
I'm like, oh, I don't know.
To me, that's hard.
I remember I watched one of my childhood, like one of my best friends growing up.
He got more and more drugs.
He did Coke in front of me.
And he was like, dude, you got to try it.
It's like instant coffee.
And I was like, buddy, I have to drink coffee.
Like, what are you talking about?
You know, we have instant coffee.
But yeah, I just don't feel like me being like, yo, I love all my friends was like, I wouldn't describe that experience as hard.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I love everyone.
Why is there a war?
Like, that wasn't a very hard experience.
Dove?
Dove?
Mushrooms at my wedding?
No, mushrooms and molly, those are happy drugs.
It doesn't feel hard, right?
I tried acid once.
Jeez.
That's good.
Never thought I'd ever try it.
And I did it, but I did a super dose because my friends did the same dose, but they had done it before.
And when you know what to expect, you can handle it.
I didn't know that you truly leave planet Earth.
And I went to, it's like you're in reality, and then all of a sudden you're in the upside down.
And it's just, it's either everyone's against you or it's amazing.
Visuals are insane.
So if you try to like close your eyes to like get out of what you're seeing in the real world, you're just on this like, you know, that cat meme that throws up like a rainbow.
You're just on that.
And it lasts.
It's not a two-hour trip.
It's like 10 to 12 hours.
Like you get exhausted from there.
But then when I'd come back in reality, like most insane visuals ever.
But just I would never do that again unless it was smaller dose and guided or something.
But that was duration sounds too long.
Other than that, it sounds lit.
Shrooms sound lit.
I'm interested in shrooms.
I almost did them at your wedding when they had the little capsule.
I was like, yeah, I don't know if I'm ready yet, but I was like, that seems fun.
Yeah, he means my bachelor party.
But it might happen at the wedding too.
It wasn't my bad.
Yeah, I don't know if I would do Molly again anytime soon, though.
Really?
I'm doing it at the wedding.
What are you talking about?
Why?
Why?
You were the worst on Molly.
Fucking buzzkill Mark over here on Molly.
Well, I know this is just a series of interactions in my brain right now making me feel good.
I'm like, wow, like overanalyzing the joy and love he was feeling.
That's the way it was everything.
First time I ever drank alcohol, I did it with like milliliter droplets to like measure how much alcohol I was drinking to know how I was feeling per like milliliter of alcohol.
Yeah, but you just gotta let it go.
You're like, I know my synapses fire.
I want to be out of control.
I want it to be measurable.
Yeah, it freaks me out.
Just let the feelings feel, bro.
Where was it that he did, Molly?
At the bachelor party.
Yeah.
That's not Molly, bro.
What did I do?
If you're going to do Molly, let it hit you on the grass.
Like, you really need to.
That shit hit me on my ass.
I was out.
Yeah, eating lasers.
Yeah, I was eating lasers, dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And not only did he eat it, he tasted it.
He told me after.
He's like, bro, that laser was fired, dude.
Cherry laser.
The cherry laser, dude.
It was sick.
Halls.
It was a cherry hall.
I remember the next morning, you just said, I feel my brain recovering.
Yeah, it was bad.
If there was ever an idea for an Edwards.
Oh, did I tell you about this?
That I bumped into the drum player?
Yeah.
No, somebody else told me.
You can tell.
Navdeep, I think, isn't it?
Yeah, Navdeep, yeah.
Yeah, Navdeep.
I bumped into him at the Amex lounge in Mexico City Airport.
Yeah, that's so wild, dude.
And I was so fucking emotionally and mentally depleted from the drugs that we had been doing, I didn't know how to hold a conversation.
So I walked up to him and I was like, hey, man, what's going on?
And I'm looking for a drum.
I don't even see the drum.
I'm like, please let this guy be the fucking dude.
You need the bronze.
That's bold of you.
They had no bottles of water in the Amex lounge.
And I'm like, I'm not about to get sick drinking fucking tap water right before I leave Mexico.
Fuck that.
I'm on a flight for five hours.
It's the worst Amex lounge that was trash.
I'm sweating.
I'm sweating.
I walk up, I say hello, and him and his boy, who are like really sweet, like start a conversation.
They're like so nice and they like stand up.
Now, I'm not in the position to have a conversation with any human in this moment.
Like I'm literally falling apart.
Like seriously.
And at one point in the middle of him talking, I just go, yeah.
I just, I just take my head and I bend it down to nothing.
Are you trying to retreat in a turtle shell?
Say what?
Yeah, you tried to retreat.
I just retreated.
Yeah.
I go, yeah, I got to sit back down.
I don't have to sit back down.
That's the least necessary thing that you ever do in life is sit down.
And I just left the conversation.
Getting a Gun for My Daughter00:04:37
I go, do you guys think they have Warner here?
And then I just went and I sat.
And we haven't spoken since.
You said it was your bachelor party, though, right?
Yeah, if you told them it was your bachelor party, they knew what was happening.
They're like, ah, he fucked up.
Yeah.
He's coming to your wedding?
Yeah, yeah, he's going to come to the wedding.
Oh, hell yeah, Doug.
I'll fly him out, bro.
Definitely not.
Not at all.
I might.
But if he's my plus one, I'm not going to lie.
That'd be fire.
He's so fire.
He's so fucking fire.
I fucked up.
It's not going to be traditional.
I mean, it will be traditional.
It's just a different tradition.
Yeah.
That'd be sick.
You should absolutely come in your garb, though.
I'm doing it.
That's I just got to get find a new outfit, and that takes, I got to find time to do that.
It could be the same outfit, Doug.
I don't remember what you wore.
Yeah, I promise, dude.
And nobody at my wedding remembers.
I could wear the shit I wore at Robbie's wedding for sure.
Yeah, but no sneakers, though, son.
Come here, some fucking Jordans and shit.
Come on, bro.
I guess you could do that.
I want people to express themselves.
Yeah, dude.
It's Burning Man for a wedding, right?
Kind of, but fancy.
Okay.
Chris Rapoy.
It's bougie man.
Bougie Man.
Exactly.
Anyway, yeah, that's a good question.
What's up, asshole?
And I got one question for y'all.
If you had to cut off your meat to gain one superpower of your choosing, what would it be?
To grow a dick back.
Yeah, sure.
To grow a bigger dick.
Grow a bigger dick.
If I could grow a five-inch dick, that'd be fire.
Yo, that's a great answer, bro.
If I want superpower, I'd be growing dick back.
100%.
Oh, shit.
That's funny.
One way.
It's one superpower, but you got to cut off your dick.
What's funny is you could just say, if you could have a superpower, what would you want?
But this guy's like, you got to cut your dick off to get it.
You got it.
What is that?
That's got to make it worth it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like a life for a life.
Remember when he needed that lifestone and he dropped his bitch from the balcony?
Yeah.
He dropped his daughter.
His daughter, bitch.
Yeah, yeah.
It wasn't even his daughter.
Everybody made a big deal about that shit.
He stole that bitch when he killed half her family on his earth or whatever.
Her planet.
100%.
So it's like, just kill her.
Like, I don't understand why that was such a big deal.
Like, I was super emotional about that.
I was like, yeah, I was crazy about to kill his daughter, but it's not his daughter.
He just stole her.
Green bitch.
Yeah.
Right?
And then he did, right?
He stole her, and then he killed her so he could get what he wanted.
Yeah.
It fucked him up.
Y'all never stolen some shit and then killed it.
The life for a life thing.
Yeah.
It's like you killing Sabi.
What?
It's like you killing Sabi.
You stole her from her family.
You wouldn't kill her.
Can I be honest with you, though?
Like, Cookie, what would you kill?
Delveion is.
No, no, no, no.
Can we talk about what you would kill your dog?
That's a great question.
Oh, no, no.
Would you kill your dog in order to get a moment of silence from your wife?
Would you do that?
No, it'd be too much crying.
I couldn't even get that.
That's facts.
That's facts.
No, what would you kill your daughter, daughter?
What would you kill your dog in order to get?
Yo, nothing, dog.
Nothing?
What would you kill your dog?
I watched a really fucked up video yesterday on Reddit of a dog attacking another dog, just like walking down the street of Santa Monica.
They're walking by each other, crying crazy.
That's crazy.
And the one dog just fucking latches onto this golden retriever and will not let go.
And there's 20 people standing around, all like just sort of doing that bystander effect of not helping.
I ain't helping.
But the guy who's got the golden retriever is just like, yo, get your dog off.
And the woman's holding her other dog, just it won't let go.
It's just fucking in.
It's mangled.
It's blood.
It's awful.
I would kill the other dog.
If I own the golden, I'm absolutely murking.
So that's why I'm getting a gun, bro.
Somebody lunges at happy.
Let's go.
Dude, I'm killing your dog if your dog's hurting my little chicken wang ass dog, bro.
Come on.
Dogs out there.
Oh, I don't trust Zachos with a blaster.
Yeah.
You with a blaster might be crazy.
Remember when you went to do steroids?
Yeah.
You still had to do work in order for them to shit.
But now you're going to have the gun.
That's the ultimate.
First of all, I got the steroids.
They got confiscated at the border.
Thank you.
But you never ran it back.
You never got it again?
Nah, somebody stopped you?
Nah, another.
Yo, bigger guy than Jordan talked me out of it.
I was like, yeah.
The Indian wrestlers.
Like a babushka talking about it.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
He said, don't do it.
Whatever, as soon as you get off, you'll lose whatever gains you make.
He's like, I've done it.
It worked out.
A jacked Indian told you not to get jacked?
Yeah.
It seemed like it worked out for him.
That's what I'm saying.
This guy's Matt Jello.
He's a WWE Champion.
Yeah.
He didn't want to.
He was very convincing when he said it.
He was very.
He was like, dumb.
Yeah, but everything good that happened to him in his life happened because of steroids.