Andrew Schulz, Akash Singh, and Mark Gagnon dissect a Philadelphia comedy brawl, Conor McGregor's Vatican altercation, and Epstein's alleged political utility against Bill Clinton. They critique Joe Rogan's claims about Dr. Sanjay Gupta's ivermectin usage and CNN's media manipulation tactics. The group further analyzes Hannah Gatsby's Netflix departure as hypocritical profit-seeking, mocks the modeling industry's objectification of women, and argues that nearly all Americans under 30 are socially liberal despite fiscal conservatism, exposing media flip-flopping on LeBron James and Kyrie Irving. [Automatically generated summary]
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Ferrari Shoes and Jail00:10:12
What's up, everybody?
Okay, this is Andrew Schultz.
Welcome to Flagrant 2.
I'm here with Akash sing Alex Media and Mark Gagnon, the truffles even here.
That little bitch.
Oh, my God.
I love saying bitch with Helium.
Dude, we should do fods like this every single time.
This is amazing.
We got to get a tank.
We got to get a tank.
We might die, but we can do it.
Yeah, I feel like this is getting crazy.
Do you think I'm killing brain cells, you fucking bitch?
Don't worry about my brain cells over there, bitch.
I'm glad you don't do drugs.
You chase.
So good.
Dude, it is so much fun.
What's your favorite brunch place in New York?
What?
What's your favorite place?
I just want to judge your outfits.
I started talking like this, and Fashion Police is knocking at your door.
What do you think?
Akash.
What do you think, Akash?
Akash looks cute.
I like to roll him into a little fucking garlic knot.
He can spit on his anus.
Ew.
It's weird.
It sounds really weird when the voice comes back normal.
Yeah.
Like when you're talking all like gay and stuff and you say whatever, it's cool.
And then once your actual voice, I actually think my voice is higher now.
Yeah, it's kind of stuck to me.
It did take a lot.
It was a change forever.
Yeah, you did too much.
Oh, fuck, dude.
All right.
Well.
Guys, welcome.
What's up, everybody?
How are you?
How are you guys doing?
Great.
Amazing.
Yeah?
Yeah, dude.
Good weekend.
Okay.
It's immediately freezing in New York, so I know you're not doing well.
No, I fucking hate it.
It did drop out of nowhere.
Out of nowhere.
It's a bit more.
Yeah, we're ready to rock.
We're ready to leave.
Yo, I got to say shout out to Philly, man.
The whole squad was down in Philly this weekend.
We did an amazing show at the Met, which is like this beautiful theater.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
And just the Philly audience was amazing.
And it was like everything Philly.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like Philly people, they're not sensitive.
Like, they don't give a fuck.
Like, you talk about controversial topics.
They're down for it.
They love jokes.
But there's going to be a fight at a public event.
And apparently, when I was on stage, there was a fist fight.
Wait, what?
You didn't hear about this?
No.
I didn't know either.
And that's the beauty of like big venues is that like there could be an actual fist fight.
I think I heard it.
Was it like in the back right section?
Did they tell you where?
Something.
I don't know.
Jimmy had something going on.
Jimsy said he was walking around and people just started swinging.
And he said there was a lot of N-words thrown.
And I was like, it could get really interesting.
No, and but it was just, that's the most Philly shit, right?
Like you got the jail in the Eagle Stadium.
You know these guys are ready to fucking fight.
Come to such a beautiful venue and be like, who won it?
Yeah.
It's crazy.
What do you think it was?
Is it like that?
Two people could be offended by something at my show, not what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah.
Like there's so many things that might offend you throughout the show, but they said something to one another.
Like somebody's head was just in the way or something.
I guarantee.
It was just something stupid or like somebody's girl was talking and then another dude was like, yo, tell your girl to be quiet.
And then from there.
But that's Philly.
They're not going to cancel your career.
They'll kill you.
Yeah, they'll cancel your life.
Your life is so.
But yo, it was just so dope.
And I just want to say thank you, man.
I was really grateful everybody came out and showed love.
And Philly always been showing us love.
And, you know, even when we were doing a comedy club there, like Helium, man, they just always came out.
Philly always showed love.
They really, they really do, man.
Except the time they always wanted to kill you, but outside of that.
That was just a few people from Philly.
That was a few people.
It was with love.
It was with love.
It was just with love, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, that person loved their dad so much.
They're like, you can't make fun of my dad.
Yeah, man.
No, no, no.
Delive it.
Okay, just chilling.
Alex brought the hammer down.
I did.
I had to.
I heard.
I brought the hammer.
I heard.
I heard.
Who was lucky?
We risked it.
Who was lucky?
Slide up on him.
You know what I'm saying?
We was about to slide.
No, when you think about it, they were actually really lucky they didn't try to kill me because they would end up dead.
Yeah.
Isn't that fucking crazy?
I'm lucky a day.
I would have ended up in jail, though.
No, you wouldn't end up in jail.
You bailed so much.
You ended up going anyway.
A police officer.
Not at the time.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
We would have to hide a body and everything.
God damn.
That's crazy.
Whoa.
Damn, Al.
Al, that's, you know, Al's a criminal, bro.
You're fucking ducks, bro.
You deserve to go to jail of Sweden because God looked out for you in Philly.
There you go.
And I was like, you're going to have to pay the jail debt somewhere.
Yeah.
I'm just going to wait till you go to the softest place on the planet where you can actually pay.
Being in jail in Philly, bro.
That'd have been rough.
God, and murdering a famous person's son.
Come on.
Well, it wouldn't be murder.
It'd be self-defense.
Yeah, you're a hero, dude.
Yeah, the baby.
Yeah.
You're the baby.
Basically, the baby.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, yo, Philly, thank you so much.
And yeah, man, let's get into it.
Let's get into a lot of good stuff to talk about this week.
This week has been very generous to us.
We have many, many conversations that we could have.
Where shall we begin?
Obviously, there's the big Rogan situation.
Also, Al, if you throw the notes up, it'll be easier for me to stop stalling to the discussions.
This is like when I'm reading an ad.
Guys, if I'm ever reading an ad and I just repeat the same line a few times with like different levels of energy, that's me trying to get out of waiting for scrolling down with a fucking copy.
Okay.
So now you guys know.
All right.
It's brought to you by Blue Chew.
Blue Chew is the one bringing it to you, Blue Chew.
It is, though.
We didn't have them today.
Yeah, shout out to Blue Chew.
Anyway, let's talk about it.
Connor McGregor out here fucking people up again.
Do you think Conor McGregor has CT and I mean that?
I asked that.
I had that exact thought.
What do you think?
Either he's just completely falling apart because the thing that he put his self-worth on, even though he has everything else, that's been taken.
Or it's legit CTE.
So let's go off of number one.
Like it's just ego, right?
I think that, yeah, when you build yourself up and your entire adult life, you think of yourself as like the most terrifying human being on the planet.
Yes.
Like you could fuck up anybody, even though he can't fuck up the guys of the higher weight classes.
You know, regular pedestrians, you fucking them up, right?
A DJ?
Yeah.
I'm not afraid of DJs.
His self-worth is I kick people's ass.
Yeah.
So now once you stop believing yourself that you can kick people's asses, I think you're incredibly sensitive to any provocation from a pedestrian.
Yes.
Right?
From a civilian.
Yeah.
Right.
So you have a situation where like you ever have somebody like, you ever somebody be condescending to you?
Maybe they think that you're like broke or they think that you're like stupid or something like that.
And I'm insecure, so that drives me fucking nuts.
And then I get real pissed.
Right.
And then if they like laugh at you in like a weird way, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're like, hate you forever.
Exactly.
But because you're dealing with that insecurity, right?
So Connor never had that insecurity.
And now he has the insecurity himself, which is maybe I can't fuck people up like I used to.
And then if a DJ, some Italian DJ at that.
Any Italian, really.
Yeah, bro.
Any Italian.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Any Italian or DJ could get fucked up together?
This guy's asking for an Italian DJ does something that it probably isn't even to you.
It's maybe to his wife.
Maybe Connor says, hey, we should go to the next spot.
And then he goes, yeah, yeah, sure.
We'll go to the next spot or something like that.
And maybe he's talking to his wife.
Maybe it's an inside joke about his wife and they both don't like going after hours places.
So he's winking at his wife.
Sure, we'll go to the next spot.
Nothing to do with Connor.
But Connor's so sensitive that motherfuckers don't respect him no more.
Yeah.
That immediately.
Or you get punched in the mouth.
Or that DJ was Italian and started playing bongos on her titties and shit like that.
Do they do that?
I mean, Italians.
That's how they talk.
Al, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I seriously, I wanted to yes-hand you, and I wanted to improv.
That's why you're not going to improv.
You have to bring this to a screeching halt.
This is why I'm not good at improv.
Yeah, Cuomo is very dumb.
Oh, yeah.
That's Italian American.
That's different.
Oh, different people.
My bad.
Different group of people.
Basically, what happened is in around 1492.
This is true.
All the straight people in Italy left.
Yeah.
They moved to New York.
Yeah.
All the straight people in Italy moved to the store.
There's only 40 of them on the boat, though.
There was only 40 of them on the boat.
There's a lot of gays.
And the rest of them stayed there.
And then they started doing fashion things and they started caring about if the tomatoes were ripe.
And that's just what they've been doing really for the last 500 years, maybe 550 years.
Got it.
Easily confusing situation.
Not your fault at all.
So straight Italians here, super straight.
Yeah.
Bongos titties.
Yeah.
Gays that are still in Italy doing their thing.
Gotcha.
So that's why we see these slip-on shoes.
Yeah.
Slip-on shoes.
Really tiny, those little Ferrari shoes.
Just wear socks.
What are you doing?
Why Ferrari socks?
Why Ferrari shoes?
They're not going to be fast.
They're not fast.
The fastest man on the planet is actually Italian.
No.
Oh, yeah.
That's true.
The black guy is American.
The fast part is American.
Let's be honest.
You didn't get to speak from your mom.
And the Ferrari shoes, probably.
Huh?
And the Ferrari shoes.
And the Ferrari shoes.
He wore the Ferrari shoes.
He wore the Ferrari shoes.
But it's like when you see a little kid in Lightning McQueen shoes.
How are they not good at marathons?
All they do is carbo load all day, every day.
Yeah.
All you're eating is pasta.
And you're not good at marathons with the Ferrari shoes.
I mean, you have to give it up for the metabolism.
Oh, yeah, dude.
You have to give it up for the metabolism.
Like, they eat the food that you shouldn't eat.
Straight cars.
And live man long.
The number one diet in America is just don't eat like an Italian.
And they're still skinnier.
Yes.
You got to give it up.
100% better.
What do you think that is?
Is the food better?
I think they talk with their hands.
It's just so much fun.
They talk so fast.
Their mouth is the Ferrari.
And also just sucking cocks.
I think a lot of the guys are just busy sucking cocks.
Like the wife, because the wife is like, I have to go out to the farmer's market, get the new cabbage.
And then the husband's like, oh, suck the cocks.
Get the alfredo.
Yes, but get the sauce.
You get the pasta.
I make the sauce.
So, yeah, so we figured out Italy and why they're so skinny.
Yeah.
Yo, about Connor, though, fighting is even more heightened, like you're saying.
Larry, Aziz, and Growth00:09:07
Yeah.
I think anytime, like, imagine all of a sudden you just weren't funny anymore.
Let's knock on wood because that's even fucked up.
Yes.
Yes, yes.
You're going to spiral.
Connor's entire.
Are you superstitious about that?
Son, son, son.
What are you doing?
Come on, bro.
You're going to not get a woman.
You've never gone through that stage in your career where you're like, I don't know how to write jokes anymore.
I go get every three years.
When we were starting out, Arkashi and I, I think for a good like seven years, you'd be killing for two months and it's just be like, oh, fuck, I got this.
I got this figured out.
This is exactly how I'm going to do my special.
And then you'd hit a rut, and then for a month, it would just get worse actively.
Oh, God.
And usually afterward, you'd grow up more, but it's like a fucking valley to get to the PD.
Yeah, for me, like, that was always the growth process.
It was like, and I, at first, I didn't realize it, but it was like, do better, do better, do better.
Start doing worse.
And then all of a sudden, there was like that was like the next growth stage.
And eventually, when I started doing worse, I was like, oh, okay, good.
I'm about to grow.
Yeah.
Something's going to happen.
I'm going to be funnier.
I'm going to understand the game more.
But like before I understood that, oh, it was fucking brutal.
I mean, I think there were times where I was like on the phone with, I can remember distinctly walking on Astor Place by the barbershop and just calling Akash to be like, bro, I think I lost it.
Dang, I lost it, bro.
I think I lost it.
He's like, what are you talking about?
I'd be like, funny, man.
I used to be funny.
Do you remember when I'm funny?
I used to be funny.
And then Akash was like, dude, what are you talking about?
You're funny.
No, no, I had it, bro.
And I was going back in notes and I was like, this is funny.
Like, I haven't thought of anything like this in a while.
And, but, yeah, I remember that.
And I remember I did a show that night.
Oh, my God.
Then we'll get off this.
But I did a show that night and I was so angry and so depressed that I actually had like a breakthrough.
Like, I was so angry, so depressed.
It was a horrible show.
I was in the fucking East Village.
There was like eight people there.
And for some reason, like, I wasn't trying to do the jokes.
I couldn't be anything but what I felt.
Yeah.
And the audience really resonated with it and then just started laughing.
And then all of a sudden, like, the jokes had new light.
And it was one of those moments where I realized, like, I need to be connected to the material.
I need to feel something about it.
And I think if I didn't have that show, I would have quit commenting.
He wouldn't be making a living a comedian, which means none of us would be making a living as a comedian.
A lot of other people would have quit commenting.
Crazy thing, you know?
I also think the audience that night knew you needed it.
They were like, your memory's like, yeah, I connected what you actually was saying.
It was like, if you guys don't laugh, I'm going to kill myself.
Yeah, yeah.
It was like the Joker moment.
You guys are all going to die.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, oh, yeah, this guy's funny.
But in those times, you're fucking lost, man.
And Connor's lost.
He was, we thought, the best in the world.
Then it just, now it's all gone.
It feels like we're all just kind of looking at him like, yeah, you kicked my ass.
But like, because think about all the interactions recently, right?
And I'm not talking about when he punched the old guy in the bar because all guys and bars can be dicks.
Like that guy, he could have deserved it.
Yeah, that guy deserved 100%.
Because he could be some fucking old bar fly.
He's already drunk.
And he thinks since he's old, nobody's going to hit him.
You know how, like, like old, old guys talk like young women.
You know what I mean?
Like, they say shit like there's no repercussions.
Son, I would have remember Larry Merchant was talking shit to Floyd.
Yeah.
And all of us were looking at Larry Merchant like, yeah, there's no way Floyd's doing shit.
He fucked up.
Didn't you say if I was younger, I'd have kicked your ass.
You wouldn't.
This is the best boxer ever, Larry.
You were Larry.
You know what I'm saying?
You couldn't throw punches, nothing.
As a man, you hit 70, you turn to a woman.
Exactly.
Socially, yeah.
100%.
100%.
It is a freedom.
Like, oh, I can't wait.
I'm talking in Italian right now.
No one gives a fucking.
No one gives a fucking thing.
Okay, no.
It's already too.
Oh, no.
Holding the info in Italian.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, he's talking about Connor.
I was like, well, they actually are gay.
I'm like, your story, they can just start arguing.
I'm bragging.
I was going to get no flavor and breaking news is over.
Sorry.
Excuse me.
I know that's kind of gay to sit how I sit, but the way that Dove points his toe down.
Well, he's wearing Italian shoes.
Don't do that, right?
Like, I sit like this with my foot up because I'm ready to fucking, you know what I mean?
I'm ready to go.
Like, you're ready to be straight.
I'm so ready to be straight.
You're trying to roll them into it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, my father walked in the room, like, yo, what are y'all doing?
Like, I'm so ready to be straight, right?
Like, Dove is like a goddamn ballerina, dude.
Yeah, yeah, bro.
What is that?
What is that?
Like, isn't that like same on name, same?
That's TLC.
That's TLC.
You were really good at that, by the way.
You were switching them legs.
Son of a dance.
Son of a dancer.
Dance teachers, man.
Son of a dance teacher.
I thought I wasn't going to be able to dance.
You could cut some of the dancer and just say dancer.
You a dancer.
No, I'm a son of a dancer.
He's a son of a dancer, dog.
Yo, I'm a son of a dancer, bro.
I'm a son of a dance teacher.
That's the name of a three-time U.S. Ballroom Dance Champion.
Yeah.
I'll never hear it.
I'll never hear it on Sandra Cameron.
So you got that.
But I had to cool it down, bro.
That pussy's getting hot.
I had to cool it down, bro.
I had to blow that shit real shit.
Okay, tell us what happened, bro.
I want to read it.
I don't want to do it.
Okay, I'll do it.
Oh, God, dude.
Okay.
It's like having a girlfriend you don't want to fuck.
I know her.
Fuck this shit.
Okay.
The girl says, I think he had the psychotic episode of Something Girls.
Then Doug goes, maybe because he doesn't know what to do now that his career is over, Israel's great.
We were in.
Wait, did he say that?
Yeah.
We were in a circle talking, deciding what to do.
He wanted to go somewhere with the music.
Oh, she was there.
Some said they were going home.
Some said they were staying.
Francesco said, okay, let's stay then.
And yeah, he just turned his head slowly and yeah, and threw punch.
Open eyes, emoji.
And then his friends and guards had to hold them down because he wanted to keep beating Francesco.
So I don't think it's something premeditated.
Well, respond.
You should respond to her.
Didn't you?
No, please.
Wait, why not?
Just respond.
He discussed this with you before.
Didn't you just say that?
He was like, you just gave that example.
Yeah, TMZ Dove got on the scoop right before.
Yeah, wait.
So she just agreed with everything we said.
I just said, why are Italian men so gay?
Okay.
I swear to God.
No, no, no, please.
I did say that.
That's what it is.
I just want to know.
I think it's an important thing to know.
Did he say it?
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
You actually wrote that.
Yeah, of course I wrote it.
Well, maybe we'll get an answer.
She's Italian, right?
Listen to people.
We never said Jerry Larry.
They're sweet.
Why do you think Gabriel Shay's sweet?
Okay.
But yeah, I think that's what it is, man.
Because if you look at the other interaction they had, that altercation with MGK.
And it was the same kind of thing.
Yeah.
Right?
Everybody was alleging he asked for a pick and MGK was like, nah.
And it was like, yo, you think you could disrespect me?
Yeah.
Nah, he should have fucked MGK for that.
Yeah, that is wild.
All anybody's doing is taking pictures.
Have you ever turned out a picture in your life from someone?
Nah.
That's what I mean.
Like, you're like, yeah.
I will.
I turned out.
I'm taking her destiny for a picture.
I'm turning that shit down.
We're making news like that.
I want to call her to punch an Amish guy.
He's like, because they can't take pictures.
Yes, he can't use technology at all.
He's going to fight him.
He's going to get pissed.
I turned out a picture in Philly.
Somebody was like, yo, can I get a picture of Aziz?
I was like, you would have could have.
And then I just got in my car and drove off.
But it wasn't, I'm trying to be funny Aziz.
It was, I really think your name is Aziz.
I was like, they were at the show.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they were at the show.
So they knew who you were.
They knew who you were.
He said, I'm sorry, I forgot your name after.
And then I was like, you know, we're good.
He was like, oh, shit.
I'm sorry.
I forgot your name.
I was like, it's all right.
Aziz would have taken a picture with him.
Aziz would have taken a picture with him.
Yeah.
Brought white wine when the bitch wanted red, probably.
I was trying to figure out what the joke was.
I'll just let you make it.
Brown on brown crime.
Yeah, man.
That's fine.
I gotta say, go.
I think it's what's it called?
Steroids.
He's trying to heal from the injury.
So they usually get on the combination of steroids and HGH to heal faster.
100%.
So the HGA increases cell growth, right?
I mean, that's just what it is, right?
But the steroids make perfect sense.
That is interesting.
And he's not going to have a fight for a while, so he's not going to be tested for a while.
Yeah.
That is interesting.
I think that's what they do with a lot of athletes.
They're like, how do we just get you back sooner?
But that is really fucking interesting.
It could be Reid Rage.
Because it's like little shit.
Little shit like that.
So close together.
Reid rage may be mixed with the other stuff we're talking about.
Because you need to have some insecurity to have the rage in the first place.
But I love the idea that that's what's making it irrational.
Interesting.
And he keeps showing himself in the fucking gym.
I know he's been in the gym a lot, but it's like, there's a lot of shirtless selfies, man.
But if you're doing Roy's, you got to be on best behavior in general because you know that people are going to be like, oh, you have Reid Rage.
That should be to know you on Reids.
But like your girl knows, like everyone knows in your immediate circle you're doing Roy's.
Yeah.
And you can't just be acting crazy.
You got to be extra nice.
But do you think his girl knows that he's a wild boy?
Yeah.
Like I think she knows 100%.
She was with him as a poor wild boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can stay with him as a rich ass wild boy.
Yeah.
I mean, the dude just got a yacht.
Like the guy's balling.
He got a Lamborghini yacht.
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Oh, yeah.
I saw that shit.
And it looked crazy.
Yeah, that's far.
But it's like now you punch in.
That's even more.
That's like more telling right there.
What do you mean?
Like, it's like, now you're trying to flaunt because you're kind of down.
It's like a midlife crisis, but it's mid-career crisis.
Yeah.
The best part is that he did this like three hours after his child was baptized at the Vatican.
That's why they were in Rome.
They were at the Vatican getting their child baptized.
Yo.
Yeah, so did that DJ.
That my brother got made two bad visitors in one night, bro.
Yeah, you better see Jesus, motherfucker.
What?
Yo, he was at the Vatican.
Yeah.
Got his child baptized and then punched an Italian DJ that night.
Yeah, that's the Rome dream.
Was he sinning, though?
Was the DJ doing something super disrespectful?
Probably.
Maybe talking to his wife crazy.
All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because I got to say thank you.
Huge thank you.
We put up the tickets for Radio City Music Hall, iconic venue in not only New York, fucking America.
And we put them up.
And basically, the show almost sold out in a day.
It was unbelievable.
I think we got maybe like 50 tickets left or something, but I was floored.
You know, my dad ended up walking to meet my mom.
And a lot of you guys know my dad's memory isn't really there.
And so he had forgot that, you know, we told him that I was playing Radio City.
He literally walks by Radio City Music Hall and gets to be surprised by the fact that he saw his son's name on it.
And that was a really cool moment.
And he was very proud and maybe, maybe very happy.
And I'm just very grateful.
And thank you guys so much for doing that.
Just means a lot.
So I just want to say thank you so much.
The infamous tour, Philly was so much fun.
Also, another iconic venue that we're going to, Chicago Theater.
We sold out the first show, added a second show.
Chicago, we're coming there November 13th.
We added a second fucking show.
Go get those tickets, ASAP, DArewSchultz.com.
This weekend, we're in Indianapolis and DC, Indianapolis, maybe a couple tickets left for that one.
DC, two shows, Warren Theater, Warner Theater, sold out, man.
Thank y'all so much.
San Francisco, we added a second show at the Masonic.
Fucking unbelievable, man.
These venues are so gorgeous.
So it's awesome to do this.
Thank you guys.
There might be a few tickets left for San Francisco.
Go check that out.
Madison, Boston for New Year's.
This week, we're going to add a few more shows.
We'll tell you guys about that.
We are coming to your city.
So make sure you check those out.
D'AndrewSchultz.com for tickets, the infamous tour.
We are coming.
And Akash, what you got?
Yo, what's up?
This weekend, I am filming the last parts of my special the 21st through the 23rd in New Brunswick, New Jersey at the Stress Factory.
November 6th, I'm going to be in Atlanta at the Red Clay Comedy Festival.
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All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because I got to make sure that you guys are getting stiff.
Okay.
Fellas, you don't have to do the heavy lifting no more.
Okay.
You let Blue Chew take care of that for you.
Okay.
You don't got to get yourself in the mood.
You let Blue Chew take care of that for you.
If you want to break backs, okay, you want something you could hang a mink coat on, you get that Blue Chew and you're going to be bricked up, ready to go and giving your girl the time of her life.
If you're up on that religious shit, like you are locked in, you are walking.
What is the beautiful thing that Michelangelo painted the 16 chapels?
The 16th Chapel.
Yeah, what?
Why am I supposed to know that, bro?
You got 16 chapels.
I'm supposed to know all these fucking chapels.
What are the fucking clues and what are these stupid ass books that you're doing?
Yeah, don't just check Dan Brown.
He texts me, he texted me and does this.
How I knew he wanted to keep it private.
He texted me and dumb on the line.
He goes, yo, yo, yo, yo, which Kindle do I get?
Dan Brown coming out with a slapper.
You're crazy if you don't think that I'm rocking down a Kenzie first thing.
New show.
New show.
Trash.
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Trash.
And he likes to go.
Yo, Is he a filmmaker or is he a writer?
What's the new book?
He's a writer.
What is he?
He's a writer.
He's a writer.
All right.
What's the new book, Cohen?
Come on, y'all.
Come on, y'all.
Is he a little book armor?
You're not part of the book club?
You don't know about it?
17th Chapel.
100%.
Idiot.
Yeah.
No, but for real.
Dan Brown is going to come out with another slapper is what he does, dog.
And a lot of motherfuckers like y'all will be jealous, but then watch Harry Potter read Harry Potter.
Harry Potter better than anything Dan Brown ever wrote in his life.
That's a fact.
Wow.
In his life, in his life.
He's about to put McGregor on your ass right now.
Hey, seven masterpieces, dog.
Seven men.
Dan Brown wrote one.
Doing a hit Roy race.
Couple followers.
What is so special about Harry Potter?
Everything.
The teacher of the dark arts is weird this season.
Yeah.
Next book.
The teacher of the dark arts is weird this season.
It's just the same shit over and over again.
You get hell cursed because this shit blues clues.
You like fucking blue screws.
Talking about clues, Da Vinci.
Damn, clues is fire.
Clues is fire.
Yeah, Da Vinci Code is more like Blues Clues, bro.
We just got to solve these mysteries every single time.
Did you not like the book?
Did you read Da Vinci Code?
Oh, I like the book.
But it ain't more than Harry Potter.
Pussy off that book back in the day.
You know what I'm saying?
Bring it up on the old phone, the fucking 3G, the iPhone 3G.
When you did that for the fucking punctures, dude.
How late did you read that book, dog?
I'll take eyes out.
He's an LT. I'll be getting on these girls trying to show them how you know Paul was putting his hand up against Jesus' throat.
Oh, you know what I mean?
In that picture of the last dinner?
Yeah.
You never seen that?
Who eats dinner like that?
Yeah.
Super weird.
Worst situation.
The last dinner?
Yo, last time boys getting together, we're going to see like a bar.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't chat at all.
Word up.
They literally were at a ball.
No vibe at all.
Did they talk about that?
Was there no other depiction of the dinner?
They had to get a lit for the Graham.
It's like, yo, come and get this picture real quick.
He was a hoe for the Graham.
Yeah.
They didn't do a tablecloth.
They didn't do a tablecloth.
He was, right?
Like, he was.
Yo, it's water to want.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Like, hey, write this down.
Write this down.
Like, he's just walking around the whole time.
Write this down.
Was take the pic.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Like, who got that many stories about them back in the day?
Right?
Yeah.
How many people got that many stories?
He had little publicists all the time.
My man was, my man was all for the Graham.
Yeah.
Jesus was for the Graham.
Verse 11.
The Grail.
He was for the Grail.
But for real, when you think about it, that was like, yeah, that was the Kardashians, bro.
That was real housewives of Bethlehem.
That was.
You talk about the 12 of them just getting into hijinks every single day, going making party supernatural.
Hollywood garage.
Right?
It might have been.
I'm not trying to be disrespectful to the Lord and Savior.
That might be respect.
You know, you know what I mean?
So they had drama.
They had a lot of drama.
I'm not trying to disrespect.
Daddy issues.
You know what I mean?
Dad not there.
Yo, how you got daddy issues with two dads?
Get over it.
You know what I'm saying?
You got double dads.
You had double dads, yo.
That's not crazy.
Like, don't give me no daddy issue shit.
You had double dads.
Also, your first dad is the most trustworthy, like, faithful human being on the planet.
Yeah.
Right?
And then you got the other dad is literally God.
If Jesus said he got daddy issues, I got a fucking problem.
I'll become a Jew right now if he said he got daddy issues.
Is that in the Bible?
There's a lot to live up to, yo.
What do you mean?
There's a lot to live up to.
You know what I mean?
You got to be perfect.
He had to be perfect.
He was as good as he could be.
Why?
Because one dad is Joseph and the other dad is God.
But he's also God.
So, but he gets to be a bad boy.
He gets to be a bad boy going to flipping tables, going into the temple.
Flipping tables.
But he didn't want to do that.
You know what I mean?
He had a lot to live up to.
Big ass shadow.
Big ass shadow.
What?
What shadow?
I don't believe that.
God created shadows, yo.
That's the shadow.
Jesus didn't know that God was his dad until he died.
He died.
This ain't Star Wars.
Do you think he found out Mad Lego?
You think it's Star Wars, I think.
You should understand.
You're in the shadow of a three-time ballroom champion.
Yeah, that's true.
You should understand.
That shadow is fucking heavy and it's hard.
Son of a damn shit.
Can we be honest with you?
I don't think Jesus knew that his dad was God at the moment.
And then God was like, Jesus, I am your father.
Yeah, remember that part of the Bible he says that?
Now it is true that.
He's all in one hand.
Son, I'm being serious now.
He didn't know his whole life that God was his dad.
He wasn't walking around going, God's my dad.
So why he's doing all these miracles?
For what?
For the love of the game.
How do you know he had that in him?
For the love of the game.
How do you know he could do that?
For the love of the game.
It's like Spider-Man.
He could just do it whenever he wants.
No, he couldn't do it.
He has a cartridges.
If you read the fucking books, nerd.
I watched the comic books.
I watched the movie.
I like you, you fucking dork.
Yeah, he clearly didn't watch the new movie because it's not inside.
I know I didn't watch the new movie.
I watched one when I was in the middle.
Wait, is it cartridges?
Yeah.
Wait, what?
Come on.
Why?
Nobody got webs in their wrists.
He was a spider.
He's a Spider-Man.
For the crawling.
He could call it crime.
He was not fucking webbing and lizards.
He's lizard man, bro.
People are crazy.
So you think humans have webs come out?
How many spiders shoot webs?
Zero.
All of them.
No, they don't shoot it.
They shit him in a camera.
Shit comes out like yarn.
That's nice.
That's what he would have.
He'd have yarn webs.
He'd just be able to put it there and then drop down like a fucking yo-yo.
Yo, you asking for a lot of accuracy in a comic book movie about a radio actor.
Hey, yo, hey, yo, hey, yo, yo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What you think your religion is?
Comic book.
You know what I'm saying?
He asked for accuracy there.
Do we not?
Do we not?
Doug, talk about a movie made about it.
The Mahabharata.
Coming out.
Coming out now.
I am very curious to see how y'all do that because there's some wild.
Wait, what's this?
What's this?
They've already done it hundreds of times.
The Mahabharata.
Every time I'm talking about this, I'm curious to see how comic book does that.
You've never seen Mortal Kombat and Fire Guy with all the fucking arms and shit like that.
There could be Indian terrorists, bro.
Say what?
There could be Indian terrorists.
You can't talk crazy.
Indian terrorists?
Yeah.
If you hear you talking about it, if you keep disrespecting the Indians, they might get mad.
They've been terrorizing my navel cavity ever since I was fucking five years old.
Gave us fucking jokes.
Nasal, nasal, nasal.
I'm in naple cavity.
I was like, were you in the navy?
I know.
Why are we in your belly button?
What happened?
Yo, the joke was already bad.
I thought I could sell it with attitude.
And I thought I could sell it with conviction.
And then I fucked up the word.
Doesn't Mark didn't know what navel was?
And he thought it was about boats, but it's about your belly button.
Yeah, I know the shit was going on.
Okay, but no, in all seriousness, did Jesus know that he was the son of God?
Yeah, he found out Matthew 14, 33.
After water, the disciples tell Jesus, you really are the son of God in response to the question, but who do you say that I am?
Peter replied, You are Christ, the son of the living God.
Jesus answered him, Blessed are you, Simon Barjona.
And bar in Hebrew means son of he didn't know until after he walked on the water.
He took a real chance, bro.
He really said, let's go.
Also, his boys hyped him up so good.
Hey, hey, that's what I'm saying, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
He didn't go in the water because he knew Pops was saying you could walk on water.
The dude believed in himself.
He was doing it for the love of the game, bro.
This guy was real.
But his boys hyped him up so much.
He found out before he died.
Say what?
He found out before.
He doesn't know about it.
You literally just, he just said it.
What is, oh, that's facts?
You trust everything Paul says?
Yeah, I trust Paul.
I don't trust you.
I trust Judas.
You trust Paunchi's priest?
You trust Paunchius?
Do you trust Paunchius?
No, I don't trust Paunchius.
Yo, do you trust Paunchi?
Now I gotta trust Paul.
Do you even know who Paunchus is?
No, who cares?
Exactly.
Do you even know who wrote the Bible?
Yeah.
Who?
The disciples.
No.
No, son.
No.
Yo, I know who wrote the Bible.
Who wrote the Bible?
God.
There we go.
That's the right answer.
That was a trick question, but now you kind of got it.
But actually, it was written by a man.
God.
John.
He wrote 316 at least.
He wrote 316.
He did.
That shit slaps, bro.
John had bars.
Who had better bars than John, though?
Pissalms goes.
You know how fired that burned in the paint?
The bar is, though, because I don't even know the bar.
I just know John 3.16.
Yeah.
Like, I don't even know what John 3.16 is.
There's no Stone Cold 316.
It's Austin 316, though.
Oh, that's right.
What is it?
Which one is it?
It's Austin 316.
Yeah, Austin 360.
Okay, what is it?
I don't even know.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son so that we might not perish but have eternal life.
John 3.16.
I mean, that's a summary of the Bible, bro.
John got slappers, dog.
I don't know what Austin says.
John is Jay-Z of the Bible when you think about it.
Like, he's Jay.
He might be.
Who else is there?
He might be.
Passams.
Who did Pissams?
I don't know.
Solomon.
King Solomon, I think, wrote that shit.
Solomon, bro.
And he didn't even need his name all over it like John did.
He said, nah, it's not me.
Solomon.
He just didn't have a monkey he gave to Nikki.
Nah, but he don't got no P in his name.
It's not Pasolomon.
They tried to throw the scent off.
I don't think so.
No, it's a Pasolomon.
That's how we spell it.
Maybe he spelled it Pasolomon.
Maybe it's a purse of them, bro.
Yeah, maybe it is a pseudonym, dude.
Talk.
Maybe he had pneumonia.
And then he forgot.
He spelled his name wrong because he was so sick.
Yeah.
He was fighting pterodactyls.
Yeah.
It's very psychological when you think about it.
Jay-Z of the Bible00:06:11
Yeah.
Okay.
So did, is it true that when Jesus died?
I can always tell you it's not.
I can't tell you right now.
I'm being serious.
Is it true when Jesus died, a little part of the devil was mixed with him and then it was placed in seven different items that needed to be destroyed in order for Jesus to rule the kingdom.
Is that true?
Yes or no?
Is that true?
That is true.
That sounds like a whack-ass fairy tale.
That's why they cut that shit out the Bible.
That's why they cut it out the Bible, bro.
How are you going to disrespect J.K. Rowland?
Oh, I'm fine.
He's disrespecting J.K. Rowland.
No, that's fire.
That was fire, bro.
So, run that shit back.
Fuck, son.
Yeah, nah, JK is trash, bro.
Nah, run that back.
JK is trash.
Harry Potter's, bro.
Masterpiece.
She hasn't written any other billion-dollar franchise except Harry Potter.
That's it.
Doing nothing with their life.
No, she did.
What?
Fantastic Beasts.
Yeah, Fantastic Beasts.
Beasts.
He was trying to think of an anti-trans book, but he couldn't think of one.
Yo, she hates trans.
She was just putting out a thing called Fantastic Beasts.
Is it about trans?
No, but she wouldn't call them fantastic.
Why not?
She thinks that they're fantastic.
Does she?
I think fantastical lessons.
Oh, like fantasy?
Yeah.
Okay, I got a nice.
Wait, how did you think it was?
Oh, like incredible.
Like, wonderful.
The best beasts.
That is kind of funny.
It is kind of funny that, like, she, of all people, would push back against the trans thing.
Like, like, people being like creative.
You believe in wizards, bitch.
She doesn't believe in them, but she does believe in like fantasy and being able to live in this world that you make up.
And it's obviously completely not real.
You know what I mean?
Like, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
Come on, man.
You know, JK Rowlings.
I could tell Dub wasn't paying attention right now.
Yeah, yeah.
He wasn't paying attention right now because you would have been like, yeah, he's doing damage control in his Italian stuff.
Get out here, bro.
Got the unfamil going.
Okay.
What was your answer, by the way?
Do we know?
You want her insta?
Lady Facanetti.
Okay.
Do we know if Jesus knew or not?
Is that a joke?
No, that's her.
He just told you when Jesus knew, bro, after he walked on the water.
Walk on the water.
He knew after he did the water.
He knew the whole time.
He was like, No, he didn't know the whole time, Mark.
Bro, he's a son of God.
He is God.
He knows that shit.
Off-rip.
Some, we don't even know if our dads are a real dog.
Like, nobody knows.
Thank you.
I'm just saying, bro.
Like, nobody really knows.
Also, how relatable is that story?
No, with you, you know.
With me, maybe.
I look at you and I look at your dad.
I'm like, it's crazy.
Wait, why?
Why?
Crazy resemblance.
You are your dad, dog.
Why?
When you take a picture with your phone, you put your hand on your hip.
I love putting my hand on my hips.
My dad doesn't have to take pictures of the phones.
He apparently knows how to answer a fucking phone.
But no, there are some things I do that are very similar.
You look similar.
Yeah.
Your dad's much nicer, but you look similar.
Yeah, he's nicer.
But like expressions and stuff like that.
Like now, when like something happens, you know, like I'll say things my dad says.
Like if something happens like in the street or something like that, I'll be like, yeah.
Damn, Mexicans.
Pretty much.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what my dad said.
I just say that.
Damn, that's no.
I mean, do you guys figure that out?
Like, as you get older, you see the resemblances with your parents and things that you're not like them at all?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's kind of weird, huh?
Yeah.
Like, what have you noticed?
Well, I mean, I actively tried not to be like my dad.
Do you notice parts of yourself that are very similar?
Yeah, more so with my mom, I think.
But then, yeah, definitely there's parts.
And I always hear that when you have kids, you see the parts you hate about yourself and your kid, and it drives you fucking crazy.
Because it's like, ah, I know he's being like a chit right now, but that's for me.
Yeah.
And it really drives you crazy.
Yeah.
That I don't look forward to.
Well, smart ass kid and I want to get annoyed.
I'm like, that's just me.
Yeah, you put that in him.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
That sucks because whatever you reward also is going to, or whatever, not even reward, whatever they see you doing and being successful with, they're going to repeat.
Yeah, I hear that.
That's exactly what I hear.
They are little mirrors.
Yeah.
What about you, Mark?
I mean, when I was in Miami, I was, I transformed into my dad.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
Literally, like, all my dad would do all day is like lay out in the sun.
He would like go for a run, lay out in the sun, like listen to a podcast, read a book, listen to like house music so loud on the speakers or like in his headphones, and then just like do business calls, just walked around the pool.
And then we were in Miami and Alicia took a picture of me, and she was like, what are you doing?
You just became your dad.
I'm literally wearing like short shorts, just walking around the pool, listening to fucking house music.
I didn't even know that I was doing it until she pointed out.
I was like, oh shit.
But you were listening to Olivia Rodrigo, not House Music.
My dance remix, actually.
It was by this Italian DJ.
Yeah.
He can't smell very well, but he's really good at mixing.
He's a really good guy.
What about you, Al?
I notice I'm rigid like my mom.
Like if a plan changed, I'm like, eh, I don't want to do it no more.
Also, a sign of autism.
Potentially.
Yeah.
Potentially.
Yeah.
I'm high-functioning autism.
Yeah.
Yeah, that is interesting, just finding these parts of your parents.
I don't know.
I think that, like, I thought I was so similar to my father growing up just because I loved him so much and like I wanted to be him.
Yeah.
But like as I got older, I started to notice so many similarities with my mom.
Yeah.
And it was kind of shocking.
And that's probably why we like butt headed, but butted heads at times, you know, because like I'm sure she saw some of this stuff in me.
Like you were saying, like you start to see the things that are annoying about you and your and your folks or whatever in your kids.
But yeah, that was, I remember going through that.
I think it was maybe like late 20s or something going like, holy shit.
Like my whole life, I thought I was just my dad.
We were the same person.
And I was like, oh, I'm my mom.
Yeah.
And that's why I love your dad so much because you and that's why he loves me.
He just got two of this bitch.
Yeah.
Epstein, QAnon, and Insecurity00:09:14
I can't believe what I call my mom bitch.
Even jokingly.
I just tried.
It's funny.
Nope.
This bitch came to my show in Philly, bro.
It was unbelievable.
It was amazing.
Yeah.
She was inviting people back to the green room.
She invited like 10 people to the green room.
Yeah.
Crazy ass bitch.
What?
White mom's white words.
Yeah, white mom's dog.
No, I know.
I just what if you happen to marry a white woman one day and then your kids speak to their mom like that?
Oh, yeah, your kid's definitely gonna call your girl, well, your wife, a bitch.
No, 100%.
Nah, the black side of me is gonna be like, nah, we don't, we don't do that.
By that point, it's a quarter.
Bro, you call every white woman a bitch.
Except my mom.
Yeah.
Except my mom.
They're gonna learn it from you.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They're gonna be the first worker.
They're gonna realize.
Everybody a bitch except your mom.
You don't got a fucking chance.
New Epstein information.
It's crazy how little fucking people care about Epstein anymore.
They really, they were right.
Yeah.
You know what's crazy about the Epstein thing?
Yep.
They, whoever they are, were right.
They're sitting back and they're going, yeah, they're going to care about it.
They're going to make shirts that say Epstein didn't kill himself.
They're going to have some like fodder.
They're actually going to have more fun with the fodder than actually they care about getting a result.
Then they care about justice.
Yeah, then they care about justice, just knowing what happened.
They just want something to bicker about.
That's what we are.
Like, that's what the mask thing is right now.
That's what the vaccine thing is.
Like, you just need things to distract you, right?
Like, you just need something.
There's need to be something we cry about and we have to be polarized.
It has to be teams.
And there always has to be some discussion.
And it was everybody hates Trump.
And now there's not a figure that everybody really hates.
Like, people don't like love Biden or hate Biden.
He's just kind of like there.
And we don't have enough access to him.
He doesn't say enough things for us to be pissed off him.
So there needs to be another thing, the mask, the vaccine, whatever.
But with the Epstein thing, they were fucking right.
They're like, they're going to bicker about it, but life is too good for them to actually do something.
And then they'll just move on.
And we fucking moved on.
And now like new information came out, which is kind of interesting because it almost like supports QAnon a little bit with the game info.
And I think this is what's really cool about it.
So the new, what is QAnon?
QAnon believed that Trump was really out there to get the pedophiles out of here.
That's like the crux of their belief system, right?
It's like, hey, we're against pedophilia.
And this guy is in office because he wants to weed out the pedophiles from DC and Hollywood.
He wants to get them the fuck out of here.
Now, I never knew why the fuck they believe this shit, right?
But okay, maybe they believe it.
This new information comes out.
And basically, Epstein thought that Trump had gotten him locked up so that he would flip on Bill Clinton.
Right.
Because Trump believed that he had information on Clinton, right?
Which many people believe as Clinton had visited the island and been to the house a bunch, et cetera.
And so essentially, what happened is Epstein goes, okay, Trump's got me locked up so that I can drop dime or whatever.
Is that the term on Clinton and completely destroy the Clinton's chance to influence any sort of election to be influential in politics?
Just destroy that fucking name.
And that just helps out Trump in general.
And the Democratic Party takes a big hit because that is the focal point.
They're essentially the leaders of the party at that time.
There's also information.
I guess Steve Bannon believed that Epstein had some shit on Trump.
But what is interesting is if the QAnon people are looking at this like, yo, Trump is about to expose Clinton, they rightfully believe he's going after pedophiles.
What they don't know is the reasoning behind it.
He's not doing it because he's like, I got to get the pedophiles out of here.
He's doing it for self-preservation.
He's doing it because he's like, yo, I need to make sure that I can have as much strength as possible.
So I need to cut the legs out of the people that are opposing me, off the people that are opposing me.
So they have nothing to stand on.
And so it is kind of funny.
It's like, you look at the QAnon people, you're like, well, you kind of weren't right.
Kind of weren't right.
You kind of weren't wrong.
Yeah.
But the other thing that is damning is he might have had info on Trump.
And that's where QAnon is like, well, that's your guy.
That's supposed to be exposing everybody.
He might have got exposed.
But I am curious, what were the things that they thought he had on Trump again?
There's still talks about the P-tape and basically this Michael Wolf guy.
He's the guy who wrote the book Fire and Fury and Fire or some shit like that back.
So he's going to put out another book.
Right.
And because Trump makes money, bro.
I know.
And that's where a lot of it, I'm like, are you exposing truths or do you just need another hit?
Yeah, he wants another hit.
And I think that he's going to manipulate the facts.
You know, it's just like, what is it called?
Statistics.
I think I took a statistics class in college and they were like, there are three lies.
Lies, big lies, and statistics.
And you can just make a statistic work for whatever you want.
This guy knows he's going to sell way more books going, hey, Trump got pissed on by Russian hookers than, no, there was no P.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, who's buying the book if there's no P?
Right, right, right.
Right.
And I don't even give a fuck if he got peed on.
Yeah.
As long as they were above the age, you care.
I mean, the guy wears makeup.
It would be entertaining.
It would be a funny story.
Oh, I'm talking about like in terms of discrediting him as a politician.
Nah, but it does look weak for the U.S. president to get pissed on.
If he's paying for it, pee on me, bitch.
Yeah.
That's lit.
Nah, nah.
If you're getting pissed on and you don't have a choice, then that's fucked up.
But if you're telling someone to pee on him.
You wouldn't get more respect for him if you found him got pissed on by Russian hookers?
Yeah.
The only president to get pissed off by Russian hookers is the only person who's not going to be able to do that.
Absolutely.
No way the only.
And if he pissed on Russian hookers, that's I respect that.
Well, how do you know it's going to wrong with that?
I respect that.
I don't respect that.
Because that's too insecure.
Like, to me, that's super insecure.
It's like, you're so insecure that you have to pay a girl to pee on her so you could feel dominant.
Nah, that's whack.
You're going to get pissed on?
Yeah.
You're so the man.
You feel you are so the man that you have to be degraded in order to come down to regular level.
So a cuck is the most manly guy on earth.
You're so secure.
It's good.
But you're a wife.
You're just going to watch her get fucked by somebody else.
It's doing it to your wife.
That's why I can't do the cut, the what's it called shit.
Listen, I'm not secure enough.
I don't want a girl to spit in my fucking mouth.
Do you know what I mean?
I don't want to spit in the girl's mouth, but I can't, because I'm not secure enough to have a girl just fucking dominate me like that.
I don't like that shit at all.
I don't even like my girl to be suggesting positions and sex.
I'm driving.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I'll be having convosts.
You know, you want to hop on top.
You know what I mean?
Get that spine straightened.
What?
Come on.
Come on, bro.
Sometimes you got to go pelvis to pelvis.
That's the only way.
What if Trump pulled the R. Kelly like a compy come situation?
That's fire.
He peed on them or they peed on him?
Nah, on them.
But like was able to pull that off.
At his age, that's.
You got drugs and shit like that now.
Like, he's so hopped up on like whatever legal meth they got, Adderall, you know, fucking Viagra, Blue Chew.
Shouts to the Chew.
Put that in with that.
What?
I'm just saying.
Like, we out here with performance enhancing drugs.
Yeah, effective medications.
Hey, old dudes, nothing don't impress me no more.
You know what I mean?
Like, we out here.
Did it used to impress you?
Say what?
Did it used to impress you?
Pre-Viagra if you're not.
You say old dude coming?
Yeah, like if you are old, exactly.
Pre-Viagra, we didn't say it turned us on.
We said it impressed us.
Yeah, even porn, like being able to nut on cue and that kind of shit.
Super impressive.
That is impressive.
How does he say looking so young, though?
Versus like Trump over.
You think he looks young?
Yeah, that's wild.
In terms of right now, the evolution of Obama at the start of the presidency versus like he started old.
Obama started young.
Once you already look old, you don't age that much.
Also, I think Trump's preserved.
Biden was bodying people in the primaries and then aged 10 years or just as fun.
I think Biden's been looking old.
Yeah, Biden looks the same to me.
But Obama looks so youthful.
And Obama's pure black hair.
So when he went gray, that's when it's like, yo, you've aged.
Okay, Trump just has a Trump diesy shit already.
He's not.
Yeah, it's drugs.
He's on meth.
He's on the legal version of meth.
What is it?
Adderall, or what's the other one?
There's another one.
Viveance.
Viveance is another one.
There's another one.
I don't know.
It was what we used to do.
Providual, I heard his.
No, no, no, no, when we were younger.
Riddling?
Riddling.
These types of things.
Yeah.
He's taking B12 shots.
Like, the guy's getting all the boosters so that he can have energy.
So are all these politicians.
They're fucking 80 years old.
Like, if I don't sleep eight hours, I'm exhausted.
Yeah.
You tell me these people are sleeping four hours at 80 years old and they have energy to perform and fly all around the country.
You're saying they're not on some shit?
They're on some shit.
100%.
You don't think Elon Musk is on shit?
He's got your fucking nootropics and all this stuff?
Allegedly.
They're on all this, guaranteed.
They have to be.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
But yes, they have to.
Guaranteed they have to be, but also allegedly.
I'm saying allegedly because we have to, but they're on it.
There's no way that's not.
It's weird though that you waited until Elon Musk is on nootropics to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I got my Tesla.
Yeah, but Trump is not a fucking grilling and he said.
We don't need that Tesla.
All right, guys, we need to take a break for a second because when it comes to gambling, you got to make sure you're getting the best bang for your buck.
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Now let's get back to the shit.
What else we got, man?
Should we talk about our boy Rogan?
Going at it with Sanjay.
You gotta call him Columbus the way he's taking out Indians.
The way that Rogan bodied Sanjay Gupta, dude, I'm disappointed.
I hope you say his name correctly.
Sanjay.
Yeah.
Sanjay.
I hate that he says Sanjay.
I know.
Oxford hates this dude.
It's not hard to say Sanjay.
And he guys don't like it when Indians pronounce their name white on purpose for like no reason.
For white people.
I like when they do that because they recognize where the fuck they are.
You should pronounce your name based on the country that you decide to live in.
So, like, when I was in Spain, I would say my name is Andrew, and then I would just go Andriu so that they would understand it.
You could just say Andriu because they don't know how to protect it.
But if they called you Andreu, would you be like, actually, it's Andrew.
No, I just go Andriu.
That's fine.
That's just that you could do.
His tongue doesn't work the way my tongue works.
If you said Andrew and they said Andriu, I wouldn't correct.
It's up to you how you say your name.
Yeah, yeah.
So for him, and Sanjay is not Andriu.
You guys can say Sanjay.
I wasn't choosing to spend my life in Spain.
Yeah, but you can say Sanjay.
I was spending like a year.
You see the difference, though?
They can't say Andrew.
You said it.
Americans can all say Sanjay.
He's an easy name.
Say it.
Try to say it.
Sanjay.
Sanjay.
I have respect for Indians.
You said I'm going to pronounce it.
Sanjay.
You put a D in there.
I put the D.
It's Sanjay.
That's what it is.
No, but for real, dude, I do feel strongly about that.
Like, your name is pronounced based on the country you decide to live in.
But again, don't bring your other shit here and then make me feel fucked up.
I got to be racist because I can't pronounce your shit from not where I'm from.
Again, Sanjay.
Sanjay.
Jesus do it the best.
What's your name?
Phil.
That's all I'll talk about, Asian.
Just pick a white-ass name.
Perfect.
We had that exchange soon.
Joo Young Kim.
What's your name, Carl?
Carl.
Yeah.
Love it.
Can't even pronounce his own name.
Love it.
Yo, and you.
You say Joo Young?
That's the girl's name in Russia almost.
So young.
Oh, Soo Young.
Soo Young.
Oh, wow.
Soo Young.
I think they want to change it up, though.
I think it's fun.
You come over, you get a new name, new identity.
Yeah, it's fun.
You get to live up to it.
It's great.
I'm just saying, you, your parents are really smart.
You told me how they picked your name.
This was really smart, girl.
I went to white people and they gave them a list of Indian names.
They said, which one can you pronounce the easiest?
Oh, really?
So they basically found a way around the system.
And it was like, hey, this is, we want to name our kid an Indian name, but also an Indian name that's easily pronounced in America by American people.
Brilliant.
Maintain your culture, but also respect the fact that the majority of people speaking to your son are not going to know how to pronounce it in a perfect way.
We still don't say it right now.
We still don't.
Ashka.
My mom calls him Ashka.
I don't correct people who don't say my name correctly because it's not, I don't care how you say my name.
I care how I say my name.
That's my identity.
How I carry my identity is important.
And I even, like on a day-to-day interaction, I stopped doing this, but I see my Indian friends will say it in a way like Andriu, one-on-one.
But to publicly, you wouldn't publicly go on stage and be like, hey, thank you guys so much.
I'm Andriu Schultz.
If I chose to live in Spain and live there for the rest of my life, I would make that entire country bend the knee.
There you go.
It's Andrew.
It's Andrew.
And that's my issue.
You don't got to public, go on newscast and be like, hi, I'm Sanjay Gupta.
You're saying it's so easy to say.
Is it wrong that I've said in my life when people have pronounced their name like super with their accent?
No.
And then I pronounce it with an American accent.
They've corrected me.
They'll be like, that's not how I pronounce my name.
And I've said to them, it is here.
Identity and Public Stage00:06:42
I don't care.
I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that's racist.
If you say it's pronounced it.
That's how it is pronounced.
That's how it is pronounced.
Here.
Like that.
It is pronounced like that.
Here.
In this country.
In God's country.
That's it.
We're in the country God chose.
We will win because God is on our side.
Yeah, I don't need to correct anybody who doesn't need to correct anybody who mispronounces my name unless they're Indian.
If they're Indian and you know better, go ahead.
If you're new to the culture, you don't got to be great at it.
I don't got to correct you.
I just need to know I carry it properly.
How do you pronounce his last name?
Gupta.
It's gupt gupta.
Gupta.
Yeah, gupta.
I say gupta.
At least we did when I was younger.
I had a teacher, Miss Gupta, but gupta is pretty close.
Yeah, and it's not, that's harder, but Sanjay I know is so easy for white people.
Now, did Rogan and Sanjay talk about anything besides pronunciation of names?
I don't know.
I think that's all they talk about.
That's all I heard.
For three hours is all I heard.
I mean, it was great.
Okay, no.
So Sanjay is the medical expert at CNN.
Yeah.
Okay.
And he went on Joe Rogan's podcast.
Yeah.
Right.
And I'm sure all the CNN lovers over there make fun of Rogan.
They call him the, what is it, those dumbbell things that he loves?
What are those called?
On it?
Kettlebell?
The kettlebell?
The kettlebell, yeah, the kettlebell bro, meathead guy, et cetera.
And Sunjay goes on the kettlebell bro, meathead guys podcast, the guy who doesn't know anything.
Oh, what an idiot.
This guy is just in the gym working out.
That's all he cares about.
And Rogan absolutely lobotomizes this man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because, not because Sunjay is stupid.
No.
Not because he's unknowledgeable, but because he is working for a fraudulent organization that lies on purpose.
Right.
And he, and this is a choice, he chooses to work there and he chooses to continue to propagate those lies.
Is that the right word I'm using?
Yep.
And defend those lies.
But when you are faced with truth and you're a liar, there's nothing you can do.
Yeah, except be snarky.
He was a snarky little fucker.
It was a little bit.
It was a little snarky.
And more so, I saw an interview with him talking to CNN afterward.
I want to talk about that.
I want to talk about that afterwards today because I want to talk about reaction.
But so basically, Joe calls him out and calls CNN out.
And he goes, How do you feel about the fact that your organization lied about me taking horse dewormer?
Yeah.
Like they called it horse dewormer.
Yeah.
Anderson Cooper, Brian Selter.
He addressed it.
They put the filter on the filtered his face to make him look more yellow.
And they said, and he basically was like, listen, this is a drug that is prescribed to billions of people.
Billions seems like a lot, but a lot of fucking billions.
There's only billions of people on the planet.
Prescribed?
I've never had it.
Yeah, I don't think they're prescribing drugs in the fucking Uyghur area of China.
They just put it on a slingshot and just shoot it out there.
So, so still, a lot of people, this is a drug for humans.
He was prescribed a drug by a doctor along with a bunch of other drugs.
They specifically targeted that one.
They called it horse dewormer.
They lied about what he was taking and they lied about him in general.
Yes.
And he calls out Sunjay and Sunjay's like, well, I guess it wasn't a flattering description.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He tried to maneuver around it slickly.
Yeah.
And Rogan had him.
He said, no, motherfucker, you guys lied about me.
Yeah.
And you lied about what I was taking.
And then lying about what I was taking, you could have said all the whole cocktail of the stuff I was taking.
And maybe people could have, it could have helped people.
Yeah.
Who knows?
And I think Rogan was open.
He was like, listen, there's not enough data to show that this is actually helpful.
I took a bunch of different things.
It could have been the mono something, whatever.
Mono.
Mononucleo antibodies.
No, not mononucleos.
Like monocloid or something.
Monoclonic or something like that.
Monoclonic antibodies.
Monoclonal.
Monoclonal antibodies.
He goes, it could have been that, right?
It could have been a bunch of other things that he was taking, but obviously it helped him and he survived.
Right.
And he felt sick for one day.
He felt sick for one day.
And then five days later, it was gone.
Testing niggas.
Shit, I had that shit for way more than that when we were doing Netflix.
Oh, y'all had that shit for 10 days too, probably.
Yeah.
Right?
So it was just really cool to see him call out the expert from the channel that's lying about him and see him kind of melt under the pressure.
The thing is, like, if Sunjay was off air, I feel like the conversation would be so different.
Okay, go.
Like, I don't know.
Like, I feel like he's a neurosurgeon.
He's a smart guy.
Like, I think that he has this allegiance to CNN where he has to sort of play by their, you know, constitution and say and like support the organization.
That if off-air, he'd be like, yeah, no, they were trying to fuck you over.
Like, they were trying to do this.
I don't think he would say we lie.
I don't think, I bet you he doesn't see himself in that.
They lie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm just the doctor.
They bring me in.
I say the thing.
And then that's it.
Yeah, but that is tough when you're under contract.
And it is tough when we're under contract.
And then there's a writer named Barry Weiss, and she's been on Rogan and she used to be a New York Times writer.
I shouldn't think she left the Times.
There might have been some scandal or she didn't want to continue supporting them or something like that.
But and she was on Brian Selter's show on CNN, and recently she was calling out, she's like, she's basically calling out like what's going on here.
Like when you can't, like, it is madness when you can't say there's a difference between men and women.
It is madness when you can't say all these different things madness.
And then, or when they won't allow you, that was the term.
And then Brian Selter was like, who is they?
Like, who won't allow you?
Who is saying that you can't do these things?
I mean, you're discussing it right now.
And then she goes, she goes, listen, Brian, you and I both know because we've worked for these organizations and you work for one right now.
that there's a culture at the organization which rewards certain behavior.
You want to have more time on TV.
You want to get more articles published.
You have these opinions and those stories are going to get published as long as they fit the opinions of the network or the periodical, the newspaper, et cetera.
So it's like he's going, yeah, there is no they.
He goes, yeah, they don't have to be explicit about it.
Do you want to succeed here at the company?
It's almost like, I'm sure it's the same as if you're like a cop or if you're working at the courts or whatever.
It's like, there's a way where you continue to rise up in the organization.
And there's a way where you don't.
You call out the officers, you call out bad behavior, you're calling out things that the people that make the shield look bad.
Guess who's not getting a promotion?
And it's never written.
It's never a constitution.
It's never like, yo, do these things, you'll get here.
It's just always vibe, energy.
What are you saying?
Like, positive feedback.
Unwritten rules.
It's like, it's amazing.
It's almost self-policing.
You see someone else getting on and you're like, how the fuck he got on?
Oh, he's kissing the ring.
He's playing the rules.
He's doing this.
I guess I should do more of that.
It's kind of genius.
It's almost how, like, you know, that the mafia don never has to give the instructions to the lowest level guy who's going to make the hit.
Unwritten Rules and Vet00:08:52
Right.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's kind of like known.
Oh, that guy was talking shit or that guy made a hit at us.
We know how we get back.
Like, there's separation.
Yeah.
You know, does that make sense?
Like, little stuff, like, oh, yeah, he'll get taken care of or something like that.
Like, just say something casually.
And it's like, you know, what that means.
Like, everybody falls in line and they know what that means.
And when the big boss comes out and like praises an article, a report that was done, all the other people go, well, I'd like the big boss to praise me if I wrote a piece just like that.
Yeah, it's like when fucking Nikki Minaj likes tweets that her father.
And now her fans go, oh, that's what she wants us to talk about.
That's what she wants us to do.
That's what she wants us to cancel.
Exactly.
So like you're pushing the company in the direction you want through reward and pushing it away from the direction you do not want with not necessarily punishment, but like lack of reward, lack of reward, and just ignoring.
But you, now you were saying you saw Sunjay on CNN because I think what's happening right now is like CNN and a lot of these different places are looking for their boogeyman.
Yeah.
Right now that Trump is gone, you can't just say Trump is bad.
So they've almost replaced it with Rogan.
But the problem is that the people love Rogan more than they love CNN.
Yes.
Right.
So they don't have the animosity.
Like even like the most super liberal guy has listened to a Rogan interview and been like, oh, it was actually really cool.
He talked to like my favorite musician and he seemed like a pretty interesting guy.
And also he's not saying things that are as salacious as Trump.
Like Trump was just out there with Wyatt.
Rogan's vaccine take is very centered.
He's like, look, I just, I didn't fully agree with him where he was like, I want, I don't, I think you only need it if you're like fat or older.
I believe in that.
I think if you're an adult, you can take it.
But I completely agree with what his main gripe is, which is, I don't think we should give it to kids.
So that's what he said to me.
He was like, bro, once you have kids, this whole shit changes.
And I agree.
I'm with him on that.
I think adults can get it.
Kids, I don't want to, I don't want to just shoot them up yet.
Yeah.
And if they give it to an adult who is vaccinated, he'll get a little sick.
Okay, big deal.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like, that's the flu.
And also, like, if you like a scientist, you're actually going by the numbers.
Like, apparently, having the antibodies is more effective than the vaccine.
Which he also brought up to Sanjay.
And Sunjay was like, you're right.
And that's what I'm saying.
And I was like, why does he need the vets now that he got the anti-box?
Is where CNN is also.
So, I saw a reaction piece where Sunjay and one piece they played that part, and it's fine.
Then, Sunjay starts off relatively centered.
Then they play this part where Joe goes, The best immunity is to get the vaccine and then get it, really.
And then, Sanjay in the interview is like, What?
What do you mean?
He's like, What?
You get the vaccine, you have immunity, and then you get COVID.
So, you still only get a little bit sick, but now you have the super strong antibodies from getting sick, which is again, it makes a ton of sense.
And then Sunjay made it like he flipped it.
Like, he's like, I don't think anybody should intentionally want to get the vaccine.
They're terrified of saying the wrong thing that could be misinterpreted and blah, blah, blah.
But he also was just like, They were like, I'm sorry, I also understand that a little bit because, like, as a doctor, you have a different responsibility as like a podcast host or as a comedian.
That's fair.
As a doctor, you can't.
And if you were like America's doctor, which they position him as, you really can't be out there like, yo, get vaccinated, get it.
Yeah, you start making out with motherfuckers at a concert because then you're going to have the antibodies because people will do that shit.
Yes, yeah.
So, they said something.
I don't remember his exact response, but I remember one of the cuck anchors was like, Well, you're a lot more patient than I am, Sanjay.
I don't know that I could have sat there for three hours and listened to that.
And then Sanjay was like, Listen to what?
Yeah, and then Sanjay was like, Yeah, you know, your head is definitely, you're definitely spinning in a lot of different directions.
It's it's hard to get, you know, to know what's going on or something kind of smug like that.
And it's like, bruh, you were on there and you were saying you were playing ball with Rogan.
Now you get off, and all of a sudden, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what I was in.
That was a crazy place.
Yeah, you're in a fucking Narnia.
I did give him, I'd like give him props for going on in the first place and like putting himself in that position and like having a conversation.
But I was annoyed when he went on with Don Lemon specifically because Don Lemon was like, Well, Rogan suggested that we lied.
Uh, we never actually lied.
Ivermectin is a horse dewormer, so it was never a lot.
And it's like, and that's Sanjay's up.
Sanjay right there can go, yeah, but we could have said he took ivermectin and we said he took but Rogan doesn't pay his bills, so he's like, That's true.
I'm I know where my bread's buttered, I'm with you guys.
Exactly.
That is the thing.
It's like, technically speaking, they didn't lie.
Yeah, technically, SM legally is like attorney bullshit.
Yes, is ivermectin used for horses?
And 100% before they ran that headline, they had the lawyers look at it and we could get this 100%.
Now, I would argue they did lie with making him look yellow.
Yeah, that's a lie.
Yeah, you're making him look unhealthy on purpose.
I mean, we all agree, yeah, it's a lie, but like, I think in the legal definition, the FCC, all that shit.
Yeah, they could go, hey, listen, we're just filtered.
We filter pictures all the time.
We wanted to make sure to have the best quality on the TV at home.
We had to make it reach whatever standards, but they did give out misleading information.
Yeah, it's intentionally manipulated the truth.
Yes, and when you're a news organization, you should be held to a higher standard for misleading information.
Yeah, if you're entertainment tonight and you want to put out Rogan playing TMZ, yeah, like TMZ, it's like I don't even care.
Put a fucking mustache on him, who cares?
It doesn't matter at all.
But when you're the news, the literal news, and the Chiron is Rogan takes horse, was it the wormer?
Yeah, yeah, it's it feels like a character, like a character assassination, even though they probably didn't break any laws.
Also, isn't every drug a horse drug when you just take more of it?
Like, if a horse's knee hurts and you give it mad ass, you got a horse heart surgery, yeah, where they do surgery on the horse heart.
Yo, you got horse hearts, like every drug, like petamines and populations, peptobismol, they give Benadryl to dogs.
If I'm taking Benadryl, am I taking dog allergy medicine?
You take dog all day.
You take dog medicine, you take dog medicine.
I do, I guess.
Hey, man, I don't think the medicine for animals, specifically mammals, is that different.
No fucking vet, but I doubt it's that different because when you're a vet, you just get to be a vet for all the animals.
You don't even got to specialize.
It's not like you're a hippopotamus vet.
Like, literally, we treat all animals like, all right, you know them all.
Yeah, you didn't spend time learning how to do cardiologists.
Yeah.
You are a vet.
You do all animals, all parts.
Because we don't even care if that hurts them that bad.
We don't know if I prefect them really D-worms.
Mad horse is reading this article, like, fam, that shit don't even work on this.
I got worms every single day.
The side effects?
Come on, yo.
Shit is crazy.
I don't even like carrots no more.
I think gallery cookies.
But yeah, I mean, we're fucked up with horses.
They break their leg.
We just shoot them in the head.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
Yeah, we shouldn't be going to horses for medical advice in general, bro.
Damn.
How do you even call yourself a vet when you break the leg?
You know how crazy a horse might feel in that moment?
Like the leg is broken.
You see the fucking gun getting put to hell.
Why are you doing that?
First, you're like, oh, thank God the doctor's here.
I'm going to fix my leg.
Hey, are they?
Okay, they're on the knee.
My knee hurts.
I don't speak English, so it's hard for them to understand.
They got the knee.
Okay, what's that guy doing?
Hey, hey, hey, why is that?
Hey, what do you do?
Why the hell I cocked him on?
My knee's fucked up.
My knee is fucked up.
Isn't that crazy?
It's not my head.
Not my head at all.
Yo, veterinarians, you're not doctors.
Yo, I'm sorry.
Every time I go to the vet, I'm like, yo, my doctor got diarrhea.
They're like, all right, just wait a few days.
All right.
Thank you, doctor of dogs.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, man.
I've gotten better dog advice from your sister, who's not, I mean, she trains and breathes.
She's not a classically trained vet, though.
But she'll give me like the old wives tail medicine.
Yeah.
She'll give me like Mexican, like, like, you know what I mean?
Oh, she'll give me like Brazilian favela.
Or fennel seed under their nose.
Bro, yo, rub a tomato on their chest.
The tomato's gonna suck out all the demons.
Yeah, go beast one time.
All I'm saying is, it's it is crazy.
And I think you can be able to call most medicines that are commonly used.
Like, for example, like when someone takes 20 Advils and just tries to kill themselves as suicide, do you say, guy took one horse dose of Advil to kill himself?
No.
Guy OD's on horse head headache medicine.
All right, guys, we gotta take a break for a second because we gotta talk about things that stink.
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Can be absolutely repulsive.
I know we made the playoffs.
So what?
So what?
Okay.
We need championships or nothing.
This is New York City.
We don't settle for the mediocre.
It fucking stinks.
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Now, let's get back to the show, right?
You're lying.
You're not, but you are.
I mean, you saw the thing that Rogan posted where he's like, I've been drinking lots of water.
And then the CNN headline is, Joe Rogan promotes ingesting liquid commonly used as engine coolant.
Yeah.
And it's like, all right.
You can, you can twist anything and flip it to sound crazy.
Yeah.
If you want to go as someone's character.
It's technically not illegal.
So how do we hold accountable CNN?
Like, what is the way that we can make sure that this doesn't happen?
I don't know.
I think the standards for the media and slander are higher, if I'm not mistaken.
I think they can get away with a lot less than like we can.
Yeah.
But somehow they found their way.
I think they just, it's like any law.
You find, you make the law and then people find a way around it.
Then you pay lawyers to be like, here's how you can get around that.
But here's the thing.
It's like, I feel like eventually, if there's so little truth in the news, we'll go to other sources to get our news because it just won't be an efficient use of time for us.
Like watching the news is an efficient use of time.
It's like these people have distilled the whole day into nine stories and given us all the information that we're supposed to need to know about these stories to like function in our lives.
What happened today?
What was what were the interesting things that happened today?
And now if we get embarrassed like five or six times, right?
You stop caring.
You stop trusting, right?
Like if you read the news, you're listening to the daily or you're watching CNN and the next day you go talk to your friends and be like, yo, fam, you heard Rogan was taking like horse meds and they're like, no, dude, it's it's actually a prescribed medication and this is crazy.
They call it horsemen.
They have one for horses too, but they have every medicine for horses as well.
They don't just make horse medicine.
They make medicine for humans and then they turn it into animal medicine too.
Once you hear that, you're like, oh shit, can I trust anything these motherfuckers say?
Yeah, it fucks with your head.
It fucks with your head, and then you stop trusting it.
And I think enough people will stop listening to the news or stop watching the news and they'll realize that they have to offer more truth in order for the numbers to go up.
That'd be great.
Now, you don't think so.
What's that?
Because the news, I feel it's just like social media with social media, the algorithm keeps you on because it just keeps showing you the shit you want to see.
Yeah.
And so there's just our country split in half.
Well, not in half, but there's the two major parties.
It's like, hey, you have to please this half to keep those views.
And if you try to switch it up, you might just alienate your whole fan base.
Yeah.
So it's like they have to stay that way the same way.
They're not trying to get everybody tries to keep you on the app.
My fear is, and I agree with you completely.
And I agree, that is what they're doing.
But my fear is that that part of the diagram, that little like pizza slice, is going to get so small because they're not offering enough truth.
You have to offer enough truth.
Like this is pretty.
I think you do.
I think that's enough for their listeners.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think that I think what happens is like when this is exposed and there's two things going on here.
One, you're talking about someone that can talk back.
And I think that's never happened in history.
Before you could talk shit about someone and then that person might refute those claims, but in order for people to hear what he says, the same institution got to print it.
Yeah.
So you gotta, if you, the New York Times talks shit about you and you're like, yo, fuck the New York Times.
This is the truth.
The New York Times got to cover it for people to actually consume it.
Now, Rogan just goes on his podcast and goes, Y'all lied.
And I'm going to talk to the dude from your company to prove that y'all lied.
Yeah, but Trump would say the same thing.
And CNN's ratings were through the roof.
But they took away Trump's fucking ability to fight back.
But I'm just saying, when Trump was saying every day, oh, CNN's liar, CNN's liars.
And then they would say bad shit about Trump.
Like, they had the best ratings of all.
So it's like.
Fair enough.
Maybe it works.
You know what?
It does give me a little bit of, I guess, hope.
The clip after that CNN one was a clip of The View talking about the Rogan story.
And The View, I know it to be a pretty liberal show.
One girl that's really smart, but just always takes the liberal side.
Obviously, it was like, oh, I don't even know why we should support Rogan.
He's transphobic and blah, blah, blah.
Everybody else was like, I'm glad Sunjay Gupta went on that show.
I think this is good for them to have that discourse.
I don't think we should all be in echo chambers.
And then somebody read a clip that Howard Stern was criticizing Rogan.
And she was like, you guys, that's unfair for you to say.
Liberal, Conservative, and Fascist00:14:53
You guys have very similar fan bases.
And it was interesting to see this, I think, pretty liberal show from what I know being like, no, this is good that we had this conversation for the most part.
Like everybody except one.
There's five girls on that show.
So it gave me a little hope that people like, I think they also might have recognized the power of Rogan because multiple people said, I mean, 200 million people listen to this guy.
So I think the numbers just like, yeah, what do you fucking know?
It's also housewives that watch that show.
It's like, who do you think their husband likes?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they still normally take the very liberal side on things.
Of course.
Not very, but to see them like be like, yeah, this is good.
But I'm trying to understand, like, who are these liberal housewives that watch these shows?
I don't know.
I wonder that too.
If you're a woman that's just sitting at home, you're not working.
At 1 p.m. or whatever.
You're conservative.
Yeah.
Or your husband is conservative.
Like, who are the liberal women that are not working?
Yeah.
That are watching these liberal women yap on TV.
Yeah.
And how are you agreeing with it?
That's what I'm trying to say.
Like, by the very nature of the timing of the program, you must be conservative to a certain extent.
No?
Why?
You're at home.
Sitting on your ass.
But you're socially liberal, though.
You're like, oh, we love gay people.
We love people.
We're socially liberal.
Except for your crazy cult.
Everybody is socially liberal.
Okay.
This idea that the majority of us are not socially, even the fucking hardcore Christians are social.
You live in New York.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you live in New York.
What I mean by socially liberal is like, we're not talking about Westboro Baptist Church.
Even if you don't like gay people, you're not going out of your way to limit their progress.
I truly do not believe this.
I think that people have just accepted it.
We go to every fucking city that we go perform at, and we do not go to perform just the liberal cities.
We're in fucking Kentucky the other day.
We're in a hipster bastion of Kentucky right outside of Cincinnati, fucking gay flags in the bar windows, super Lesbo'd out.
The Green Bay Packers are in town.
You can't get more conservative.
And I see gay flags everywhere.
And I'm in Kentucky and not even like the main city in Kentucky, some random city in Kentucky.
You're looking your question.
All I'm saying is, I don't buy this narrative.
That's what I was thinking.
What's that?
It was Packers, Cincinnati.
You were in Cincinnati.
No, we were in Kentucky.
Louisville, then the next day, Cincinnati, you mentioned the Packers are in town.
That was Cincinnati.
Thank you for slowing down the podcast.
You weren't even fucking there for.
You fly into Kentucky because the airport is in Kentucky.
We were staying in Kentucky.
Cincinnati's across the river.
Okay?
That's where I got that sheet.
Exactly.
Exactly.
There you go.
So thank you so much.
Fucking derailed Dove over here.
We're in Kentucky and you see.
All I'm saying is I don't buy it.
I do not buy it.
Believe people under 30 years old, every one of them, and by every one I mean like 99 is socially liberal.
Everyone you ask you ask him what they think I define socially liberal, in the same way that that Dave Chappelle defines transphobia, which is like I I, if I don't hate you or want you dead, i'm not transphobic.
Yeah, that's like, that's socially liberal.
So like there's a bunch of people who, like may, might think being gay is gross, but they're not doing anything about it.
They're not doing a single fucking thing about it.
They're not seeing a gay flag and then tearing it down.
I'm never coming to this bar again.
No doubt.
Doesn't count as socially liberal.
Say again?
Does abortion count?
The murder of children?
You're asking the murder of innocent children?
Because there's a lot of people that are very, I think abortion is different.
And I think it's a more nuanced thing.
I think it's a really different.
I think it's really different.
And I also think having children completely changes your perspective on abortion.
I've spoken to like very liberal friends of mine who have like had children and they go, man, before I was like, this is absolutely ridiculous.
There's no way.
And then afterwards, like hearing the heartbeat and that kind of stuff, it changed it for me.
And they don't say it in like a judgmental way.
They're just saying like in an honest, self-aware way.
Like friends of mine that I wouldn't say their name so that they could be private about those opinions because their wife might not even agree.
But for them, they were like, whoa.
I've had like female friends do that too.
I think I'm going to go the other way.
Yeah, you're going to be.
Right now I'm like, I don't know.
As soon as I have a kid, I'll be like, kill them all.
Kill them.
Immediately.
Let's kill them.
Yeah, we can do it.
But I guess let's wrap this up.
So, but yeah, so yeah, what were we talking about?
Rogan?
Wrapping up Rogan?
No, The specific socially liberal?
The socially liberal thing.
You said the world is socially.
It's 90% women in America.
Yeah, like that.
You housewives are watching the view being like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, I don't understand.
Like, yeah, I don't even understand how they have an audience.
The majority of their audience is over 55.
Ah, that's it.
So they're just, well, they should be conservative too.
Yeah, who are they talking to?
They're these girls yapping on fucking TV.
You're yapping on TV at 2 o'clock.
Like, who do you think is watching?
A lot of people, probably.
I'm sure they're watching, but like, those people, like, are they really upset?
Like, yeah, we should all be, we should all be Democrats and like spend more, you know, what is it called?
We should pay more in taxes and all those other things.
Well, the show is not only liberal.
Like, they have like, she's gone.
The McCain person.
Yeah, McCain is on.
But I don't know.
It's like have a conservative bitch to take a plate.
Yeah, they always put conservatives.
It's just like discourse about current events by older women, which like is their audience.
And I think there's some liberal housewives.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
Look, every housewife is liberal.
No, no, no, no, I mean, I think even their conservatives care about your opinions if your life is paid for by a conservative.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, and I'm saying that.
I don't care.
It's like when kids are liberal.
If your parents pay the bills, you're not liberal.
You think you are.
But until you actually have personal responsibility to keep yourself alive, your political opinions mean nothing.
You're conflating social liberalism and fiscal liberalism.
Everybody's socially liberal.
Remember, remember, I've already proved that.
Remember, I already proved that point.
Everybody's living.
Socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
That's what he said.
Can anybody name a socially conservative person that's under 30 years old?
Can we name a famous one?
Yeah.
Ben Shapiro is 50.
Oh, the one dude, Madison Cawthorne, the representative in North Carolina?
He's in a wheelchair.
He specifically, and he's not socially liberal.
Every fucking restaurant got to have 15 bathrooms so this guy can roll himself into it.
Right?
Like, are you kidding me?
We need to renovate every fucking restaurant and business so he can roll himself around and he's not socially liberal.
Kyle Kashuv.
I hope I don't say the last name right, but the kid on Twitter who was in the fucking...
The guy had bullets whizzing by his head.
Of course he's conservative.
Okay, but there's one.
Oh, but I think he's okay with gays.
I just think he wants to have guns so he can shoot them if he sees it.
No, but I think he's okay with gays.
I'm talking about that socially liberal.
Yeah.
I'm just talking about, are you okay with gays and stuff?
Like, how do y'all define social?
You know, when people are like, I'm fiscally conservative, socially liberal, right?
Like, okay.
Just say you make over 100 grand.
Just say that.
Just say it.
Like, just say the truth.
You make over 100 grand.
You are fiscally conservative, socially liberal.
You make under 100 grand.
You are, what is it?
Fiscally liberal.
Give me money.
Yeah.
Socially liberal.
Nobody is ever.
Nobody's ever.
I'm fiscally liberal.
I am fucking...
No, what is it?
I'm socially conservative.
I want all the money from the rich people.
Kill the gays.
Socialism is segregation.
I guarantee you that guy exists.
I guarantee you.
Hit us up.
I want to hear from you.
Yeah, I think there's some dudes in the South.
But the dudes in the South are too proud to accept the money, right?
They're like, I don't want to hand out.
I don't want to work for my money.
Nah, nah, they accept it.
Really?
Yeah, there's more white people on welfare than there are blacks.
Yep, there's people.
I hate that fucking argument, dude.
It's like a whack argument.
Yeah.
Like, if you actually did the numbers, you guys are fucking killing it, dude.
But lies, lies, and statistics, bro.
Come on.
Facts.
Don't forget that.
Facts, 100%.
No, white people are broke, too.
Shit.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
But they hate gays.
Say what?
Prove it.
Show me the under 30s.
Show me the under 30s.
All you broke whites who hate white gays, DM me so I can prove this guy wrong.
Son, how many people in the whole country went to the Capitol on January 6th?
How many people in the whole country?
Not enough.
A few thousand?
Yeah.
Yeah, but go to the motherfucker.
I'm just saying we would have taken it back, but we got to come on.
Sam, we're levelist, bro.
Where are the numbers, son?
Where the numbers, son?
Where the numbers, bro?
Like, yes or no, wear the numbers.
Show me the numbers.
That was quite a lot of people.
How many?
A few thousand?
That's a lot.
That's what the gay pride breaks.
There's a million people.
That's more fun.
He's more lit.
Motherfuckers were out in the cold.
Same constant.
We didn't say more or less.
You said none.
You said none, son.
I said 99%.
Yeah, he said 1%.
1% of Americans is what?
1% of Americans, what?
3.3 million people?
Yeah, there are 3.3 million people that are socially gay.
That's what they are.
They're socially gay.
Socially conservative.
I believe there are 3.3 million people in America.
Tops.
I actually think that that's way overstatement.
3.3 million people.
And I'm not talking about new immigrants that just came from a country where it's okay to hate gay people.
I'm talking about born in America.
Born in America.
No, no, because those people aren't.
They're not Americans.
They're grandfathered into the old thing.
But they are grandfathered into Hayden.
They count for the 300 million.
No, not in a census.
I'm not counting them.
But you don't acknowledge immigrants in the census?
I'm so conservative.
Only acknowledge Taiwanese immigrants.
Those are the only immigrants I acknowledge.
No, no, no.
If you have citizenship, yes, but I don't count it.
I don't count it.
Your views are based on the place that you came from.
100%.
You're going to be conservative.
100%.
You come from throwing fucking gays off of buildings, right?
To coming to America.
I know, right?
What's that?
He was moving.
Do you guys think this is CNN or something like that?
I thought this was a fun podcast.
Why do I got to be a hard-looking?
We're sitting there with Brian Seltzer and Don Lemon over here.
Jeez.
We're trying to create some content.
Yeah.
Chill, Sanjay.
Tell me the under 30 socially conservative.
Sun Jay.
Yes, Sanjay.
Thank you, dog.
Alex is saying, you know, that shit wild.
Can you show me?
Under 30 socially conservative.
I just pointed one out, bro.
Wow.
He doesn't say, has he dropped the F-bomb once?
Did he say gays are going to hell?
Is he gays?
You dropped the F-bomb more than him.
And you're socially a cuck.
No, you snitch it, bro.
I'm just saying.
Keep it a buck.
How do you know I'm socially liberal?
I said you're socially a cuck.
No, I'm just a fascist.
I'm a liberal is a cuck.
No.
I think there's conservative cup.
I'm a fascist.
You're a fascist.
Yeah, let's go.
I don't even know what that means.
I mean, he's saying that shit.
Hey, me neither.
All these people from Portland be saying that shit all the time.
They'd be like, oh, it's a fascist, whatever.
Yo, define it.
Define it, bro.
Like, what is it either?
It's whatever I don't like.
But what is fascism?
The thing I don't like.
That's just when the government and business are in cahoots.
I think it's a dictatorship.
It's every company.
It's a dictatorship.
I thought it was a dude.
No, I think it's a dictatorship.
I think fascism is like also.
My understanding is when government and business are aligned in their interests.
What's oligopoly, right?
No.
Well, oligopoly is that shit from Russia where like the businessmen run the country.
The oligarchs.
All right.
Fascism is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultra-nationalism characterized by dictorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which became prominent in Europe in the 20th century.
Yo, fascism is super what?
Boy, what is it?
Yo, he just did it wrong.
It's never been done right.
Yeah, exactly.
Fascism is just like communism.
It's just never been done right.
Like, if you actually had pure fascism, if it was pure in its intentions and it wasn't corrupted, it'd probably be perfect.
It's a benevolent dictator.
That's God.
Son, that's Singapore.
That's God.
That's God.
God is a benevolent dictator.
Shouts to Jesus.
Hating.
Yeah.
Jesus is hating or they hating on Jesus.
They're hating.
They're hating.
They're hating on Jesus.
Whatever's more popular.
Whatever figure that I just said is more popular, then that's it.
Choose your own adventure.
Fuck Portland.
God, the OG fascist, bro.
Yo, God is an OG fascist.
Yeah, it's gotta be done right.
And we're in good hands.
I feel comfortable with God as our fascist.
Yes.
Religion is fascist.
Yeah.
Religion is fascist.
But back to socially liberal.
Y'all still haven't named one socially fucking conservative consumer.
Because the U.S. socially conservatives that want to kill gay people.
And I'm not going to know them.
I didn't say that.
What is it?
Just that they're gross as fuck.
Just name one person that's saying that publicly.
Westboro Baptist Church?
Westboro Baptist Church.
Oh, are there 3.4 million of them?
There's one.
Are there 3.4 million of them?
Yo, are there 3.4 million?
Because I think I said 3.3 million.
Name one.
You can't name like what?
Fred?
Fred for the Westboro Baptist Church?
You still can't name one of them.
I think that's crisis actor.
I think that's crisis actor.
I don't even think that shit really exists, the Westboro Baptist Church.
I think that's crisis actor.
Yeah, we got to go to one of those.
Say what?
What do you got to go to their church?
Who says I don't?
I subscribe to Patreon.
I'm there every Sunday.
What y'all talking about?
Come on.
Still hate gays every Sunday, baby.
That's crazy.
Even though all their posters are rainbow, you know what I mean?
They're biting all the gay shit, making their posters rainbow.
Yeah.
They're like, God gave us the rainbow first after the flood.
You know what's crazy?
This is quite interesting.
Do you know rainbows actually don't exist?
It's an optical illusion.
No, no, no.
No, I'm being serious.
Nah, play Mario Kart, bro.
You can ride on them.
No, in Mario Kart, you can, obviously, because of the game.
But in real life, the rainbow itself is not a real thing.
Life is sexual.
It's a figment of our imagination.
No, don't say that.
No, I can't.
Wait, is that conservative?
Well, you said figment?
Oh, sorry.
I said figment.
What, dude?
You never put a bunch of figs in your mouth.
Hasidic Jews and City Bikes00:03:20
Okay, can you guys name a single 3.3 million?
Can you name a single 3.3 million people who are socially conservative?
J.K. Rowlings.
Ooh, she's not.
She's cool with gays.
And she's cool trans.
She's just like, yo, women are different.
And I would say that too.
That girl's just as much of a period as a trans.
Let's be honest.
That's true.
That's true.
She has periods.
Yeah, she's basically a trans woman, doc.
Yeah, that's true.
She's a trans woman.
That's why she's so offended by it.
Bang.
That makes sense.
Bang.
Hasidic Jews.
What about them?
Oh, yeah.
I don't tend to see them being.
The gay primary kind of takes a detour around Williamsburg.
How many Hasidic Jews do we have?
What percentage of the population does that make up?
Too many is not the right answer.
Too many is not the right answer.
Okay?
Go.
How many Hasidic Jews?
That's all I'm saying.
Also, they just moved here.
Just?
Also, JK.
I'm so tired of this.
I feel like Sanjay Gupta, bro.
I'm just getting.
It's exhausting.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just exhausting.
It's just what it is, bro.
If you got an accent, you don't count.
I don't care if they're born here.
They've been here for fucking 100 years and they still have accents like Ukraine, right?
Isn't that the goofiest shit?
How do they have that?
Yeah.
Because they never talk to anybody else.
But they do.
Nah.
Where?
First of the month.
Wake up, wake up, wake up.
It's the first of the month.
Get up, get up.
Cash your text and get up.
There's only so many Hasidic Jews that can work at BNH.
That is true.
That right there.
The rest of them, they're talking to each other.
That's crazy.
There's only 130,000 Hasidic households, and they're all in Brooklyn.
That shit is not.
See?
Boom.
Nine people a household.
So that's like what?
Crazy.
900.
That's like a million.
So they got like a million.
They got a million.
They got at least one million, dog.
Come on.
They got a million.
There would have been more.
My point would have been proven, but fascism ruined it.
Fascism fucked it up.
Fascism actually damn it.
Actually, fascism is what created the Hasids, if I'm not mistaken.
They're holding shit to get back the six million lost, right?
Holy shit.
Thank you.
Fascism.
They dress like that because of fascism?
Do you think that's why they hate Hitler?
They're like, I got to wear this shit in August.
If Hillary just wasn't here, we could dress normal like everybody else.
Riding bikes and stuff.
I'm so excited when they're on the electric city bike.
Oh, yeah.
It's like a brand new toy.
They're just not used to that technology, man.
When they're on that electric city bike on the Williamsburg Bridge, I hear it.
We say it's amazing.
You see their curls flying behind them.
Getting your roller skates, grab on.
You go for a ride.
That shit's fire.
Yeah.
Just mush them to Brooklyn.
That is hilarious.
Get like 10 Hasids on fucking city bikes.
They're behind it on a sled.
We got to do that shoot come winter.
Let's go.
Yeah, that is fire.
10 Hasids on city bikes, line them all up.
You just get a sled behind.
Yeah, prancer, dancer, Yonke, Moisha.
You just fucking let him rip.
It'd be so funny.
You're like, Santa.
Yunki.
Oh, that was the guy's name, right?
Yeah, Yonkey.
That's unorthodox.
Okay, go pee, and then we'll finish this motherfucker up.
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Let's talk about Kyrie.
The Kyrie thing is really funny because it just goes to show you like what frauds people are.
I think we spoke about this on the podcast.
If I'm not mistaken, we did.
Say it.
But I mean, like, conservative media was telling LeBron to shut up and dribble.
You're not allowed to be an activist.
How dare you?
You should just be a basketball player.
Shut the fuck up.
Right.
And Democrat media was saying, How dare you tell a basketball player to not be vocal about what they believe in, not be passionate about their opinions.
They're allowed to have these opinions.
They're allowed to support whatever they want to support.
Yeah.
Kyrie doesn't want to get vaccinated.
All of a sudden, that same Democrat liberal media is going, shut up and dribble.
How dare you?
You don't fucking know anything.
Shut your mouth.
Okay, you go play basketball.
That's what you do.
Right.
And conservative media is saying he should be allowed to voice his opinions.
He's a person.
He should be allowed to say whatever the fuck he's doing.
He can use his platform for whatever he likes.
Exactly.
100%.
It just shows what absolute frauds people are.
There is no consistency, and that's okay.
We're all hypocrites.
We have to be hypocrites to exist in the first world, every single one of us.
My issue is with managing the hypocrisy.
Yeah.
Is manage your hypocrisy by suggestion.
Don't manage the hypocrisy by like pointing out the absurdity of the other side when you know you're about to commit the exact same hypocrisy the next week.
Yeah.
You are as loyal as your opinions, and you do not move away from your opinions at all because you know that there's safety in numbers with your opinions.
If you're conservative, you've got 50% of people that got your back no matter what you say, as long as it's with the company line.
And if you're liberal, you got 50% of people in the country that got your back no matter what you say, as long as there's tone of company line.
When you go and have your own opinion about something, you're going to get all the fucking pushback.
You're going to get, you're going to get ripped apart.
Yeah, a car in the middle of the road is getting run over by both sides.
Ooh, is that a saying?
You just remember that.
Somebody said that to me one time.
That's really good.
It was in like a fucking Uber.
This guy said it to me.
It's really loud.
It's not the best place to say that.
He's like, anyways, it will turn less.
But it is true.
It just shows what fucking absurd society we live in, man.
It's like, nobody's consistent with anything but the company line where they have their security.
They just want the security.
They just want people to pat them on the fucking back.
And the people that come out and they have their own unique opinion about every different topic.
Like Charles Barkley is one of them.
Yeah.
We love Charles.
And I think mainly for this because we go, he will say what he feels.
Yes.
He is honest.
He's honest.
There's authenticity there and you feel it.
Yes.
And he doesn't care if he gets pushback.
He doesn't care.
It's very comforting.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
I trust you feel this and you're saying this.
As opposed to anybody on one of these news networks, you're like, you're saying what your viewers want to hear so you can keep your job.
Yes.
Charles will say what he feels.
Yes.
Say some conservative shit.
Say some liberal shit.
Say some dumb shit.
Say some funny shit.
Say some smart, smart shit.
We're with it.
Yeah.
It's you saying what you feel, talking from your heart.
Let's just do that.
Does it frustrate you when you just see how fraudulent news is?
Like, to me, that's the most blatant example of how fraudulent news is.
Obviously, there's a Rogan situation, but like this right here is the exact opinion.
Yeah.
You should just play sports and not have an opinion on anything.
Yeah.
And then once the opinion is something that you agree with, you are more than an athlete.
I'm so glad you're a good person.
You are more than an athlete.
100%.
And to LeBron's credit, I'll say he hasn't been saying anything about Kyrie.
And he's just like, this is a decision that was right for me, which is kind of, I guess, a safe thing to say corporate-wise or like whatever.
But like, yeah, I don't.
How do you feel about what Kyrie is doing, though?
Shut up and dribble.
No, I mean, I feel that way because that's what I would do.
I would shut the fuck up and dribble.
I would just get the vax.
I got the vax.
I was like, what's going to make this easier?
How do I go to restaurants?
How is my life easier?
I'll just get fucking vaxx.
I also thought there was some fraudulence in I am trying to be the voice for the voiceless.
Are these people who don't want to get vaccines voiceless?
Really?
Because I hear them a lot.
You know what I mean?
I don't think they're so voiceless, buddy.
That's funny.
That's my whole thing.
It's like, there's a lot of voiceless people on earth.
This isn't one of them.
Right.
You know what I mean?
You just don't want to get the vaccs, and that's fine, but be honest.
Do you think he retrofitted his activism on?
Yes.
I don't want to get, I don't think he likes basketball that much.
I don't think he loves it.
He likes it.
I don't think he loves it.
I don't think he's dying to win.
I don't think he's dying to play, which is fine.
Jordan is getting vax.
Kobe's getting vaxxed.
Jordan is shooting every one of his teammates with a vaccine.
Himself.
Yes.
We are winning the championship.
Stick the needle in your fucking arm.
And that was Shaq's thing.
He didn't even say anything scientific.
He was like, if you want to win, get the fucking vax for trying to get a championship.
This is my goal.
And Shaq loved basketball, but not even as much as a Kobe or an MJ.
Yeah, yeah.
Kyrie not even there.
Yeah, that's a great point.
He doesn't care enough.
I think he just doesn't.
He's really fucking good at basketball, but he doesn't love it.
Yeah, that's fine.
He don't miss it.
It doesn't give him purpose.
And I think that's why you might have to find this purpose.
You've talked about this with Kyrie trying to find purpose in everything.
And I don't know if you said it, but it's probably because he doesn't love basketball like that.
I never thought about it like that in terms of love of the game.
But I think that could be it.
Usually when you have something that you're so passionate about and that you absolutely love and a goal is attached to it, that's enough for you.
And they struggle after basketball because now they have to go through this monumental life change where they don't have a carrot in front of them that they're trying to chase.
What's the new carrot?
And that's why these athletes oftentimes fall apart when they stop playing a game.
But he has the thing that should be the carrot.
He has the purpose.
He has the goal.
He has a thing that could take up all his time.
And he can make tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars doing it.
But he must not love it enough.
Yeah, it's not.
Dude, I think if you're really passionate about a thing, you're probably not that political because your passion is channeled towards it.
It's a singular focus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
None of us are that political.
We're political, but not really.
We're not that wrapped up in it because we are passionate about comedy, content, whatever it is.
That's my passion.
All this other shit is kind of in the way of it.
Yeah.
Kyrie, basketball is not the thing.
So he's searching.
This conspiracy theory might grab my attention.
It might hold me.
The world is flat.
I mean, no, it's not that.
Oh, anti-vax.
I'm the voice for the voiceless.
No, you're not.
I have to take games off because you just don't love the game like that.
It is, go, Al.
I feel it.
I sort of kind of feel he's thinking about legacy.
And he, I like, like, he fancies himself Ali or something like that.
Exactly what I was going to say.
Sure.
Like Ali or fuck, who's somebody else who did it?
But, or a Kaepernick, per se.
So it's like he can sacrifice, oh, I'm going to take this $186 million hit because I fought for a cause.
Yeah, I don't think it's a cause that people are really going to be like, yo.
But it's the same guy who said the earth is flat.
So it's like he is like delusional to the fact.
He's like, hey, he's not himself of anything.
I think that's what I was trying to say.
I could see that.
I don't think the people will look at it that way.
Tyree thinks of himself.
He's delusional enough to go, this matters.
He also apparently protests with the Dakota Access Pipeline.
Apparently, he's part Native American.
Aren't we all like with this part Native American thing?
I'm going to think I'm a little Native American.
No, you're not.
Only because you're Scottish.
But that's the first Native American.
Stop it.
Are they not?
Didn't we have the same fucking outfits?
Face paint.
No feathers, though.
You guys didn't have feathers.
We didn't have animals with feather.
We had wool.
We had wool.
We had sheep.
A bunch of wool on my pubes from pounding that puss.
No.
But yeah, I think that that's a good point.
And I think he's searching for something, and it's fascinating because, and I'll be completely transparent here.
The more successful or money I get, the less I care about things.
Yeah.
I think when you have nothing, those things really bother you.
Yeah.
And then you start to get something and like you see AOC say some dumb shit and then I'll go up to my roof and I'll be like, yeah, so I have a roof.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, but before you don't have that, right?
You have fucking four roommates or something like that, and you're just stewing, you're angry, and you're like, oh, what's other.
And I, and there's comedically, I wish that wasn't the case because for comedy, it works way better.
The edge helps.
The edge really fucking helps to like think you really fucking care about these things.
Like there's a reason why Dave Chappelle has been talking about trainies for the last three specials.
It's like, well, what else is bothering him?
That's a fucking nothing else bothering him.
You do whatever you want.
You have all the money in the world.
You travel wherever you want.
Wherever you go, people say you're great.
There's one group of people that's like, this guy's annoying.
And you're holding on to it.
You want, you can't lose that.
That's why this is last.
Maybe you lose it.
Maybe you don't lose it.
But like, that is the group that's continually poking the bear.
You're like, okay, well, I'm going to talk about the things that bother me.
You know, I'm going to talk about the things that are causing an issue.
Like, I completely get that.
So when I see a guy who's rich and successful, like Kyrie, and is still worried about a fucking well over here, and I'm like, oh, this guy's tormented.
Like, this guy's got something wrong.
Yeah.
Because when you have all that money and all the power personally to affect your community and all these communities, and you're still like causing a fuss, there's something up here that a deep-seated issue, problem, void that you're trying to fill.
You know what you could do with $168 million is pay the people who have lost their jobs because they're protesting the vaccine.
That's a good one, too.
You know what I mean?
Like, you really want to help, buddy.
Dude, money helps.
That's the thing.
Yeah.
Sacrificing money to help never really works.
Money helps.
Money's great.
Yeah, yeah.
Money helps the most.
That's that Jay-Z shit.
That's the win-win, right?
How can I help the poor folks?
I'm one of them.
Like, money helps.
Now, if by sacrificing, you can raise even more money and then do more help, sure.
Colin Kaepernick wasn't going to make enough money playing football where he could do the help that he did by protesting.
He just wasn't.
He wasn't going to get big contracts.
Nobody really thought that he was that good.
He probably lost it.
Yeah, he lost it.
He'd probably make $10 million, something like that.
Black Lives Matter, the movement, has made hundreds of millions of dollars.
So he actually made more money sacrificing.
I don't think people are going to be donating that much money to the Kyrie.
I'm not going to wear a mask or get vaccinated foundation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The World is Flat Foundation.
Okay, lastly, before we get out of here, obviously we got to talk.
We're talking about news and the way the news puts out fake shit.
So I think it's good to point out this Netflix story.
Because the way there was first position was Netflix fired the employee that started the Trans walkout.
Yes.
So they were organizing this like trans walkout where allegedly a thousand employees in Netflix, a thousand employees, there are a thousand trans employees.
I don't know if there's a thousand trans people in America.
You see a thousand people who support it.
Oh, supported.
Okay.
I was like, that's a lot.
Are they only hiring trans people?
Like, Jesus Christ, maybe they're putting out these specials to like send a message.
Like, maybe, maybe Netflix is just like, yo, not welcome.
Like, not welcome here.
Okay.
So, uh, so we're looking at this thing, and I'm like, no, like, they fire the one who's organizing the walkout.
Yeah.
Or the protests.
And I'm like, there's no fucking way that they're doing this.
Yeah.
There's no way.
Right.
So I read the article and they fired one of the organizers, not for organizing it, but because that person leaked metrics and data.
And how much Dave got paid.
Exactly.
And so he broke their contractual obligation.
Yeah.
Like if you're my manager, for example, right?
And then you start leaking negative shit about me to the press, I'm firing you, dude.
Like, why would you do something that is detrimental to my success?
I have a cousin that works for Apple, and I think, like, if she's on her work laptop, the windows have to be closed.
That's how crazy they are about politicality at a company like that.
Netflix is not super far off from that.
So if you leak metrics, which they are notoriously tight-lipped on, you will get fired.
You never know how many people have viewed something unless they say it.
And this way they can control the narrative.
They can make sure that all their things are either successful or not spoken about.
Yeah.
Right?
Exactly.
I don't know how many people saw Britcherton or anything.
I remember a few years ago, you pointed out, they said how many people watched Bright, that Will Smith movie.
And you were like, you notice they only put out that because it helps them.
They don't talk about the shows they don't hit.
They talk about the shows that hit.
And that was when the reviewers were trash in the movie.
Patriarchy, Leaks, and Threats00:15:11
Right.
And my basic point at that was like, of course, reviewers are trash in the movie.
The only reason you need a reviewer is so you leave the house to go watch a movie in the theater.
Right.
I'm not going to put on clothes and go watch the movie in the theater if the reviewer says it's trash.
Yeah.
But you don't need a reviewer for something on Netflix right in your home.
Yeah.
You watch it for five minutes if it sucks.
You turn it off.
So they're the first big time, big budget, big actor movie that ends up on Netflix, they trash.
And I saw it and it was not bad.
Yeah.
I'm being objective here.
It was not bad.
I actually liked the movie.
Maybe I have a lower standard for those types of things, but I like the movie.
I thought it was good.
But so basically, I'm like, this has got to be fucking bullshit.
And they just fire the person for breaking their job.
It's funny because there's two headlines that I put there.
And the first is an AP headline.
Actually, the second one is The Verge that says, Netflix fired the employee who started the trans walkout movement.
Which is technically true.
Yeah.
Technically true.
Which is CNN true.
And then the AP headline.
You should call it CNN.
CNN truth.
Oh, and just to point out, and Mark was saying this even when we took a break, like Fox does the exact same shit.
100%.
They all do the exact same fucking thing.
Here's the thing.
We expected it of Fox.
And maybe because we're like liberal cucks or we grew up in liberal companies.
Yeah, if you grew up in New York, you're like, yeah, Fox is garbage.
Yeah, we just grew up thinking everything that Fox puts out is bias and fake.
We thought that CNN was just truthful.
And now that we found out that CNN and Fox are literal mirror images of one another, they're both.
I brought up the Tammy Duckworth thing to Andrew, but it was like they put out the headline saying Tammy Duckworth, the Democrat senator, hasn't paid taxes on her property since 2015.
And it's like she was all they put out.
That's all they put.
That was the headline.
Yeah.
But like cheating bitches.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, oh, these fucking Democrats, they want to take my taxes.
They don't ever want to pay it themselves.
Rules for thee, not for me, whatever.
But then you find out that she was injured in combat.
And under like the Veteran Act in her state, you don't have to pay property tax if you were injured.
Foul, going to a veteran, yo.
So literally, it's like, she's not supposed to pay taxes.
And every single conservative would support it, but they put out the story to slander.
And that happened literally earlier this month.
I was like, October 5th.
And it's true enough.
Yeah.
Right?
It's just anyway.
So it's such bullshit.
But yeah, the Verge article is that Netflix fires employees who started the trans walkout movement or something.
And then the AP headline is: Netflix fires employees who leaked metrics on Chappelle's special.
It's just the fact.
Yeah.
That's what, and the AP isn't in the business of getting clicks.
They just put out news.
Yeah.
One of the few trustworthy sources out there because they don't give a fuck about money.
And I'll be honest.
It's just a news wire.
Maybe that employee didn't want to work there anymore, but I imagine that employee thought that they were protected by the controversy.
In other words, there's no way they're going to fire me, especially when they've got all this heat.
I'm out here.
I'm supporting the trans community that works at Netflix and the people who are supportive of that community.
There's no way they could pop.
That would be bad PR.
And I'm good for Netflix for being consistent.
That's some fucking, what is it?
Ned Stark shit.
You know what I mean?
Like the rules are the rules.
You broke the rules off with your head.
Now, how can you be certain it's not like a John Gruden thing?
But basically, like the employee stages a walkout and Netflix's like, yo, you're like a real thorn for us.
Like, fuck this shit.
So let me like search through all her shit and try to find something.
Oh, you put out a thing out of the wrong email.
Technically, you leaked it, blah, blah, blah.
Every one of the companies fucked up, but we're going to use this thing against you because we want you to.
Can't be certain, but she was, or he was one of the employees that organized the walkout.
So I think they overinflated her role in the walkout.
So I imagine they would have done that with the other people.
And she might not have even been the main one.
She's just one of them, but it's a way sexier headline to be like, the employee that made the walkout gets fired.
When I think it was just a group of them, they could have all been just discussing it for all they know.
And it could be like loose connection.
But they absolutely could have done that.
And you know what?
That's on you.
Don't have fuck shit.
If you know that you did some fuck shit, right?
If you know you did some fucking, like, we don't even know that.
That's a clear violation of contract.
Whereas anybody, Woody Allen talking about the Me Too movement.
Yeah.
Shut up.
You know what you did, fam.
We don't need your opinion on this.
You go make your little art house movies, and that's it.
But if you go start talking about the Me Too movement, please believe.
Sorry, real quick discrepancy with the Gruden case.
The Gruden emails were sent when he was not an employee of the Oakland Raiders or the NFL.
He was at ESPN emailing someone that worked on the Washington Redskins.
So it's like, it's different in that sense.
It's not the same to same thing.
Bro, I'm not denying that there's like discrepancy between the stories.
I'm just saying, if they wanted him out of there, they could find something.
And if Gruden did something with the Raiders that was a clear violation of his contract, okay, you got fired.
I think the whack part is saying no one else did anything.
But same with this girl.
You did something that you know is a clear violation of your contract.
You know, you cannot leak these metrics to anyone, even if it's internally.
You don't know who has what clicks.
And it's certain she did leak it, right?
Yes, I think it's linked in certain.
They don't have confirmation on it, but they believe they suspect.
And I think that language is there because maybe they can't exactly prove it.
Someone else could have used her laptop.
Someone else could have or their laptop, whatever.
But enough where they're going to fire them and they know the backlash that they're going to get from the firing.
So I would imagine that they're pretty sure.
But also, that's like, yo, if you doing fuck shit, like you basically trying them at that point.
If you leak the metrics, they know it's you and they slap you on the wrist.
And then you do this next shit.
It's like, yo, do you work for us or against us?
Yeah.
Like, you got to be crazy, son.
Especially now.
You work for me and you protested me.
You are crazy.
Imagine Shifty starts protesting.
Fire.
Not even a question.
Chip your shit out there as a part.
Real talk, right?
It's kind of like, I mean, like, whatever.
Now we're going to get into like work dynamics and like unions and all that kind of stuff.
But imagine having that much animosity to your employer where you feel like you have to unionize against them.
Yeah.
And imagine what being a piece of shit employer to where your employees go, man, they hate us so much.
They just think we're cogs in a machine.
We actually got to fight back against them.
Yeah.
Like, what a horrible work environment.
You don't think that's a horrible work environment?
And also, they did it against the wrong company because Netflix is known within all of Hollywood for these groundbreaking we share everything internally.
Everyone within their computers can tell what everyone else is getting paid.
The numbers are on the table.
It's the most public information within.
Like, if you're this level of person, this is your age.
Like, just white dudes get paid more than everybody else.
It helps keep that.
They just put it all on the table.
So, you came to the company that, like, that in terms of work culture, and you leak the shit they ask you not to leak when they make everything else work.
One thing: given inch, they take a mile, bro.
Yes.
I mean, it's literally what it is.
You think that it's just so it's what is wrong with human beings?
What is wrong with us?
It's like you give a little bit and then we get entitled to that little bit so quickly.
Yeah.
And guys, we always complain about girls with this stuff, but we do the exact same thing.
It's human nature.
What is that about human beings?
You get accustomed to things.
You get used to things.
Fucking stuff.
You start to forget that this is something you take it for granted because you forget this is unique.
You forget, oh, I'm at a company that's actually really progressive, and most companies aren't like this.
And I get a paycheck every week, and I've got all my needs taken care of because of this job.
Not that they're God or perfect, but relatively speaking, I'm in a good position with this employer.
You just think, I'm, this is what I'm used to, and then now I see their flaws because now I'm used to shit.
You're 100% right, but it's almost like our human nature incentivizes treating us like shit.
Because if you treat us well, this is not all of us.
I think that there are those of us, obviously, all you guys have like integrity and discipline, right?
And like, but like, I do think that, and I've experienced it, you know, even working in certain places like with friends.
And maybe I have a different mentality because I came from like the small business side where my parents owned a small business.
So I'm always thinking like what the owner would think of the business because dealing with the employees and stuff.
I'm sure you guys went through this when your parents had a business.
Yeah.
But like it's like the nicer you are, oftentimes that's not returned in work ethic.
Right.
It's just, oh yeah, well, I should get this.
Yeah.
Matter of fact, I should have got that before, and now it's good that I'm getting it.
So you think that you're being nice, but the person that's getting the payment is going, well, it's about time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're increasing payment without getting an increase in like gratitude.
We're not even gratitude.
We're effort or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that's that is it is human nature.
I just, again, you got fired for a cause.
You can get fired for starting a walkout.
You can get fired for protesting or voicing your opinions.
You got fired for a cause.
That's a very different thing.
You know what I mean?
That's all.
I just want the headlines to say that.
Netflix employee fired for cause.
Who would click?
Nobody going to click.
And that's the problem.
Yeah.
Did you see Hannah Gatsby's response to it?
Oh, yeah.
What'd she say?
I don't have a problem.
I don't hate Hannah Gatsby.
Again, I thought you defend her a lot.
Yeah.
I thought this was a fuck move.
She basically was like, hey, Netflix CEO, fuck you.
I have the statement in the topics if you want to pull it up.
She was like, fuck you.
You're making shits with more backbone than you.
Don't put my name in your mouth, basically, because he said, look, we have Chappelle.
We also have Hannah Gatsby.
We also have, and then he named some other like LGBTQ friendly shows.
And then she was like, because of this Dave Chappelle thing, I'm going to get even more death threats and et cetera, et cetera.
My issue is you took the money, it made your life, and now you're shitting on it.
And saying, I think she has a line that says, you didn't pay me nearly enough to deal with the real world consequences of the hate speech you refuse to acknowledge.
Is the issue the pay?
Is there a price?
Ah, is that what it is?
And I just, I, again, I don't have a problem with her, but you were not, nobody knew who the fuck you were before Netflix.
So you took all the fame, all the accolades, all the money, and now, fuck you.
And then she says something about your amoral algorithm cult or something like, now you're pious.
You took all the checks.
You got a career off of it.
You signed that contract.
When you signed with Netflix, did you think they were moral?
Did you sign with them in 2009 where there were some startups sending out DVDs?
Or did you sign with them when they were the fucking entertainment monopoly?
And you knew it would blow you the fuck up and you'd make millions of dollars pouring afterwards.
And I have an issue with people who do that, man, when you take the checks from a company and then shit on them and act like you're morally above it.
No, you're not.
Bro, it's like the, first of all, that was fucking brilliant.
That was great.
I mean, she just flat out said it.
She didn't even realize it, but she flat out said her issue, which was, I need more money.
Yes.
It's just a greed.
It is a sentence that says, I have a price.
She thinks that she's being, she says a backbone.
She literally says a backbone joke in it because she thinks she's doing this to stand up.
She's only standing up for a higher fucking tax budget.
I just don't like when people do that.
Bro, it's like, and I posted on Instagram this week, but I'm glad we touched on this.
But there's the model.
I forget her name.
Fuck is her name.
I don't know.
But she got like some famous, like, she comes from a famous, like successful family, developer family in England.
What the fuck is her name?
She's kind of like weirdo modeled.
Kind of like Davin.
I don't know.
Pegg the Patriarch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is great.
Pegged the Patriarchy.
Yeah.
Which is so funny because it's like, why are you kink shaming?
Like, let's be liberal cucks about it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Like, if we're going to be liberal cucks about it, still offensive.
Yeah.
What's wrong with getting pegged?
Maybe guys want to get pegged.
Why can't guys get pegged?
Why is pecking bad?
Yeah.
Right.
Maybe guys want you to penetrate them.
Maybe they want to empower a woman and put it.
Why is that a bad thing?
But you're wearing it because you're trying to be antagonistic.
Because, yeah, most guys are like, no, don't fucking stick nothing in me.
You're definitely not going to strap something on.
But I have a problem fundamentally with these like model chicks that slam the patriarchy.
Yeah.
Because if we're going to like really break down what modeling is, what is modeling?
What is modeling?
You're a piece of meat.
Piece of meat.
It's the complete objectification of women.
Especially if we're looking at female models.
You literally are hot and you walk.
Yes.
Walking is a lot.
Not all of them have to walk.
Some of them just stand and we take pictures, right?
So it is the complete objectification.
Let's strip everything from a woman, her brains.
Let's strip her physical ability.
Like, you know, let's strip her athletic ability.
We're just looking at you as a hanger, right?
And these standards that we're upholding to you are standards that men find beautiful.
Yes, I understand the fashion industry is a little weird and warped, but they like her because they think that she's a hot chick for guys to gawk at.
And even if it's warped, they're objectifying you.
100%.
You're an object.
Now, here's the thing.
If you're some chick that comes from the fucking favelas of Brazil and you had to use your God-given beauty to make it out of there, God bless you.
You're from fucking Siberia.
God bless you.
Change your life.
Change your family's life.
Do it.
She comes from fucking like billionaire family or multi-millionaire family.
You don't need to do this.
You can actually use your brain.
You can actually do other things to take down the patriarchy besides living up to the patriarchy's beauty standards.
You probably got to be a billionaire because of the patriarchy.
Because of the white male patriarchy.
You own land?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who invented owning land?
Ladies?
I don't even think ladies could get land passed down until Muhammad came around, right?
You're a big guy.
Big guy that allegedly hates women, but invents the idea of passing down property to women.
But it doesn't matter.
Point is, is you see this happen with these models, right?
They start shitting on this idea of a patriarchy, and it's just so, like, it just lacks so much self-awareness.
It's like, sweetheart, you make all your fucking money off of the patriarchy.
If you don't like the patriarchy, don't contribute to it.
Don't be part of it.
Don't uphold the jobs that just stroke the ego of the patriarchy.
There are plenty of other jobs out there, but you would have to work hard at those.
You don't just stand there and smile, right?
Yeah, but you could use your brains.
You could be appreciated for who you are beyond your beauty.
Wouldn't it be easier, though, to just wear a t-shirt with some kind of signage on it as you walk around with no bra?
Pacificism does.
Fight the patriarchy.
Who likes no bra more than the patriarchy?
That's a good ass point, right?
Like, are you kidding?
Like, I hate these.
Whatever.
It's the same thing.
Hey, can I say one more thing about the Hannah Gasby thing?
Please go.
Yeah.
The whole statement is she's like, now I have to deal with more death threats because of Dave Chappelle's stunted worldview or something.
What do they think about it?
She makes it about her.
She's not trans.
Dave Chappelle's whole special issue.
No, I think she came out as trans in a second.
I saw her say, I'm she said something that I'm cis in like 2015.
She came out as autistic or something.
So she's cis, and she's making this whole thing about what she has to deal with.
Isn't that kind of appropriating the struggle of trans people?
Sure.
I mean, she's close enough to trans, bro.
I'll be honest with you.
Like, if she said she was, I wouldn't be shocked.
Okay.
Fair enough.
I just thought I read another, I think one of the queer eye guys put out a statement that was like, I wish we understood that, you know, hate exists or something.
And it's about everyone and just getting along in love.
This is about her and what she has to deal with.
It's not fighting for trans rights.
It's not saying trans people have to deal with hate and this kind of stuff makes their lives worse.
It is, I get more death threats.
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I didn't get paid enough.
It's very me-centric.
Yeah.
It's a little me only, not me too, me only.
You know what I mean?
Now, to that point, though, I'm curious about it.
Like, if she were to continue to work with Netflix, I'd agree it is hypocritical.
But if she chooses to not work with them anymore, then I don't know if that's necessarily hypocritical.
I think that's an easy, that's an easy exit round.
Give back the money.
Yes.
Why?
Because now it's like you stand on something.
I don't want your blood money.
I didn't realize you guys took this stance on this group of people.
Fuck your money.
Take it back.
I don't want.
But she could easily afford to do that because she's made way more from being on Netflix.
And if she just gave back the Netflix money, if you're a black performer in the 60s, I have a question for you to look up really quickly.
Can you look up Chappelle's first special where he talks about trans and then look up when she put out her second special?
Because if she put that shit out after, shut your mouth forever.
2019, I'm pretty sure it came out.
The Douglas, which I have cucked out for.
You live funny.
She said it was funny.
Yeah.
I said she's funny.
I just think this is trash.
I'm just saying, like, you already did it.
Sticks and Stones was the first one, right?
Yeah, I think he said it.
He had the ABCs or joke.
Yeah, that was 2019.
Her first one was 2018.
Her second one.
She had her second special.
Yeah.
Because his point is, she did a second special after he did that.
Yeah, in other words, you are okay.
And you did let the algorithm cult help you.
And you got enough money to look past that.
So maybe now that you're not being offered another special, maybe now it's an issue.
Because every time.
2020, her second one.
Douglas.
Boom.
Yeah.
Douglas is 2020.
So shut up.
You already did it.
But she might argue that he never said anything out like inherently transphobic in this first one.
I think I thought he or she said, deal with even more hate.
And just a quick note that you know, I prefer he didn't have to drag money into that.
Now I have to do it.
It says every time Dave gets $20 million of Processes emotionally stunted partial worldview.
That means he's done four times.
Every time he gets $20 million to do this.
So you went back.
And now you're not getting offered another special because your specials, frankly, don't do well.
I think the first one did well, but I don't know if the second one did.
And they get, you know, exalted by the critics and then they just get trashed by audiences.
And I think a lot of people are even hate watching it.
They're like, why do people say that this is so great when it is?
And it's really not her fault.
Like, this many people shouldn't watch it.
Right?
Like, I think that it's unfortunate that she's almost used as like a prop.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And I mean this.
I mean, seriously, she's almost like used as a prop for these different periodicals that are trying to push forward a progressive agenda.
And they're like, hey, this is amazing.
This is art.
Look how amazing this is.
And she's getting unnecessary hate from conservatives who are like, oh, this is the problem.
This isn't funny.
And look how you guys celebrate it.
She gets, well, everybody's just using her as well.
I can't actually say that she did, that it did well or didn't do well.
I don't know the fucking numbers.
I know critically fantastic.
Both critically did fantastic, and then Rotten Tomatoes just trashed the fuck out of both of them.
The first one for the people's response.
But yeah, I don't know.
To that point, I think you can come up within an institution or even like a system that is immoral and then benefit from it and then use your new benefit to try to dismantle the system you disagree with.
You can do that, but then she can also call you a hypocrite.
Yeah, I don't know if it's necessarily twice.
She got everything she needed the first time.
Why go back?
Well, I guess she could argue that, one, she doesn't know if it's necessarily transphobic, and two, that she might not have known about it.
She didn't see his special.
She wasn't sure if Mr. Jones came out in 2019.
I guarantee you she knew about it.
And she said every time he puts out his emotionally stunted partial worldview, she did a second special.
So if you have to, I can agree with you that, yo, this is the only place that would give her a platform.
It's also the biggest platform and you get the most money.
She's been in so many other mediums, but she is a fucking name after that first special.
This is the point that I was making earlier.
I don't know where this is going to go in the episode, but the point I was making earlier, which is like, it's very hard to take a strict hard line when you know that you're being a hypocrite.
So she's taking a very strict hard line here.
Yeah.
When she was privy to this information, we're assuming that she is.
You're assuming she's not.
But I'm assuming she saw Dave's thing and didn't like it.
And that's what she's alluding to with the every time.
Maybe she didn't.
Maybe she wasn't aware.
But I'm just operating as if she was, right?
And at least aware of the controversy as a fan of comedy, there was a lot of controversy when it first came out.
And she probably heard of it, especially because she's part of that community.
Right.
So the hard line is, fuck you.
I'm never doing anything with you guys again.
But she didn't take that hard line.
She actually went right back and she did it with them.
And I'm okay with her doing that.
The hypocrisy for me is now taking the hard line when you might not have an opportunity to do another special.
Right.
But that's also assuming that she doesn't have the opportunity.
And she might have another opportunity.
And she might go, okay, now I've made enough money that I can take this hard line.
But to me, I'm looking at money and success as part of the equation here because it seems like she was willing to maybe submerge some of those views that she had and those feelings that she had about Dave's stuff before.
And now all of a sudden she's in a position that's advantageous enough to really care and stand up for herself.
Right.
Yeah, maybe in this situation, I can see that.
And especially if she goes back to Netflix, it's certainly hypocritical.
But to the point that, like, but I don't think she needs to be able to do that.
Just because I have an issue with.
Sorry to interrupt you.
I just wanted to get that point out again.
Yeah.
Even though I don't know, I'm curious to know what her rationale would be.
But like, if just because you get rich in a system, I don't think necessarily means you have to like give back the money.
Like if you were to, like, Adam Smith is like, yo, feudalism's trash.
We should do capitalism.
And everyone's like, oh, but you got so rich during feudalism.
Like, you're an aristocracy.
You're like so wealthy.
Look at all the things feudalism did for you.
Give back the money.
He's like, no, it's, there's a system that I want to, I want to dismantle this previous system.
So I don't think it's necessarily hypocritical.
She didn't have a choice to operate within the feudal system.
The feudal system was the only thing that was there.
Right.
So she had a choice to do it, right?
Especially the second time.
It's like if they were deciding what was going to be the, you know, how money and the economy was going to function in, I guess it was Britain at the time.
So it's like, if they're making that decision between feudalism and capitalism, and he was like, well, fuck it.
Let's run.
Let's let's do capitalism again.
Or let's do feudalism again.
I guess maybe that would be hypocritical.
But she had a choice not to sign with them.
She had a choice not to do another one with them.
Right.
She's not willing to do that.
But like he says, the monopoly, like monopolistic streaming giant.
So she's not monopolistic.
There's many others that would be more than happy to do it after the success of her first one.
It's the biggest one, though.
Like, if you want to get your message out.
So she does want that biggest one with the most money and the most eyes.
The first one made her a fucking name.
Like that, the way people talked about that, it was like, yo, this is this changed the way I look at the world and comedy.
You're good.
Like, you can sell out easily theaters, probably more in certain things.
She did, probably.
I'm sure she did.
The second one.
I mean, she says she was quitting comedy and then just kept touring.
Yeah.
And did another special.
Remember, she was like, that's it.
I'm done with comedy.
And that's fine, too.
If you're like, oh, okay, here, now my people finally found me and things changed.
We can try to, I think we do a good job of trying to see your perspective.
I cannot see how you do the second one without knowing what Netflix is.
You've done one deal with them.
You've seen the Chappelle special.
It's now 2020.
You are set.
It's not like you're desperate for the money.
What is your reason?
How do you match your morality with your capitalism here?
Yeah, I don't know what she got paid for the first one or the second one.
I'm sure whatever she got paid, she can make enough after that she's good.
Again, like you said, she's doing theaters.
We don't know what she's making, but you can make money in this business.
It isn't that crazy.
It's a fairly safe assumption.
I understand the point that you're trying to make.
You're like, I can make enough money and then I can be critical of this system.
Right.
100%.
But you can also be called out as someone who profited off of that system.
Right.
Which I don't know if it's necessarily like an undercut to your current activism or who made a lot of money or had slaves and then made you free the slaves when they died.
You know, like a Thomas Jefferson type.
Right.
Right.
It's like, well, yeah, I'm going to free the slaves when I die, or maybe Ben Franklin or something like that.
I forget.
I forgot what I forgot what it is.
But like.
Because you know that it's currently wrong, but you continue to do it.
Because it's advantageous to you.
And then when you died, you're like, well, I don't need anymore, so I'll do the right thing.
Yeah.
I think that those are similar.
You're going to continue doing the thing that's advantageous to you.
And then when you no longer need it, now you're giving away.
I would be critical of those people if they were clamoring on about how awful slavery is and how unequal it is.
It's disgusting.
It's a stain on the American history and existence.
But you kept that shit because you didn't want to wash your fucking clothes.
You didn't want to pay anybody to do it.
Right.
I would be critical of you in that way.
Right.
That's not to say that, like, if you're forced into a system, you have to use that system and then come out of it.
Like, should black people, if you don't feel equal in America, just opt out of America?
No.
You have to live here.
You don't have to do a Netflix special twice.
Yeah.
Right.
But I guess that's operating on the assumption that she can't do a third one.
No.
Even if she could.
But she didn't have to do two, especially if you're so upset by Dave's shit.
But again, I think she was.
I don't think she mentions twice.
She mentions Dave's 20 million and I don't know.
That money's bothering her.
Yeah.
She thinks she deserves 20 million.
There was no trans like controversy with Dave's first one, though.
Yeah, the ABC thing.
The car shit.
The whole reason, and this is what we, that's the main criticism I hear is: why are you still talking about this trans stuff?
We've said it multiple times.
Right.
This is not the he, this is the third time he's done it, I thought.
Yeah, at least a second.
I think the ABD, the letter, the alpha.
Alphabet people.
A response.
That was the second time he had done it.
In his first special, and maybe equanimity or something, he talked about it.
Right.
It's years deep.
I'm fairly certain she knew about it before the first one, but I can also understand your point of, hey, these are the only guys giving me a shot.
It's the shot.
I need to take this.
Okay, fair.
Now your life changed.
Now you did a second one.
The second one is where I have a problem.
You can convince me on the first one and be like, all right, fair enough.
The second one, you didn't, you knew what you were getting into.
I bet she would rationalize it by saying, like, oh, well, Dave was just making jokes.
He didn't make any declarations.
Whereas in the third one, he was like, every person came through the legs of a woman.
Then don't say every time.
Transphobia.
Right.
Yeah, maybe.
This could have been at the very, at the very least, this could have been worded differently.
Much differently, I say.
Oh, yeah.
It could have been about what trans people actually have to deal with.
She doesn't even mention trans people at all.
She mentions her the entire time, which I guess is fair, but to me, you're not like a crusader at that point.
You're just a person going through some shit, and that sucks.
Yeah.
I just don't think it's like rash.
Like, I feel like she could probably reach out and like try to get in touch with them versus just like putting out a fuck you to the CEO.
Public decorations.
They ain't answering Nicole.
I mean, it feels sanctimonious, certainly.
Very.
When I do shits with more backbone than you, there's not a lot of backbone here, even.
You know what I mean?
Listen, I don't want to seem like I'm capping for dude, but like to me, that's kind of having backbone.
Yeah.
It's going, like, I'm going to let both of these people have opposing views and just let the content speak for itself.
Right.
Which is what he said, I'm pretty sure in his statement.
He said, We're on the right side of history, which is a bold fucking thing to say in this context.
Well, if you make history, I mean, you put yourself on the right side.
That's true.
But I mean, I think he said that.
He was like, oh, we have this special, we have this special, and we also have these types of things.
Like, we don't stand for hate and we don't want to incite violence, but we're going to put very diversity in views, essentially.
Yeah.
Also, she's saying fuck you to him.
And then your amoral algorithm occult.
Like, so many other people that are part of that comedy team that are just caring about the creative, that's like, look, we just discovered this incredible artist.
We're going to give her a platform.
So much more than just like the business folks that are part of Netflix.
Like, you're calling.
I mean, so yeah, real quick, that, that, those words tripped me up for 20 minutes.
I argued with my wife and through Shar about what that meant.
What does that mean?
Fuck you and your amoral algorithm cult?
Is that just the people who work?
No, Netflix is known when their green lighting process.
They put, I mean, this is why they're able to spend the money that they spend on talents because they know that there's a certain amount of viewership that will yield more members that will be paying subscriptions and blah, blah, blah.
So they are, they go around algorithms to say, like, hey, we want to have a business that's going to continue to thrive, employ more people and grow and grow and grow.
So no fucking cult.
They're just.
The same cult that gave her the special.
Is that what I'm saying?
That's what I wanted because I was like, maybe I'm misunderstanding that, but to insult the algorithm that made you famous.
That seems weird.
You were in obscurity before that.
I had never said, let's run it back.
Yeah.
Then you said, yo, algorithm, let's do this again.
I love you.
Yeah, it's immoral when it's not benefiting her directly.
And it's not to say that we shouldn't be critical of things.
Like, just because you're being hypocritical doesn't mean that you shouldn't say anything at all.
But I think that there's a different energy that you can approach it with.
There's a little more nuance you can approach it with.
Yeah.
So much more nuance.
Yeah.
Like we just recognize that we're all like if she was like, yo, like this platform did so much for me.
Like I'm so grateful.
Like it really gave me my career.
Yeah.
It was, you guys can do the things that I really like.
I didn't care that much for the special.
I thought that the views were, what is it, stunted or his worldview stunted?
I don't think he knows what the fuck he's talking about.
And that's just what it is.
Even if she had said, like, I wish they would have passed on this, I think it engenders hate.
Even that, at least acknowledging, they have done a lot for me, but that would have been different.
I think that the special is absolutely ridiculous.
And then she could say, and that being said, I'm sure there are tons of people that said that about both of my specials that are also on Netflix.
And that being said, I'll do a third with them.
Let's keep it a buck, yo.
No, this just feels rash.
Like, she was just like writing down a bunch of like her feelings and just like kind of like throwing it out.