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My Crazy Normal State00:04:23
What's up everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant 2.
It's your boy Sheltzi.
I'm here with Akash saying Alex Media Mark Gagnon in a truffle.
And I figured something out today that I've probably known for like a long time, Akash.
Yeah.
What's that?
I am a I'm a crazy person.
Like I'm crazy.
That is my normal state.
This is news.
I can exercise myself to the point where I can masquerade as a normal person.
I think you're giving yourself a lot of credit there.
I don't think you masquerade as well as you think you do.
So I'm still crazy.
You're still crazy.
Even now, in my current state.
Right now you're good.
That's what I'm saying.
But you're a pibble.
It's a temporary good.
Yeah, you can snap at any moment.
Yeah, there it is.
That's the words I'm looking for.
You can snap at any moment.
Queen Lativa's dog is dead.
Yeah.
She catches me on the wrong day.
You're correct.
Okay, but this is what I'm saying.
Like, I got this crazy workout.
Shouts to my boxing trainer, Abdeen, which is my trainer, trainer, Abdeen.
And I mean, I was destroyed.
I was like crawling around the gym.
I just looked absolutely pathetic, but that's what I need.
You need that.
And yeah, I need that to calm this down.
And now I feel pretty calm.
Yeah, you're a hyper dog.
You need to be running.
I need to be run.
You're like a fucking Labrador or like a greyhound.
You just need to get run.
You know what's interesting, though?
We only say that with dogs because every other animal just does that.
Yeah, but they're not.
Nobody's like, you got to run the deer.
Yeah.
Domesticated the dog.
So now we got to make it be more of a dog so it can be normal.
Correct.
We've domesticated humans.
Yeah.
I'm supposed to be getting a little bit more activity.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm a Scottish kid, dude.
Like, I'm supposed to be running in the islands.
You're a Scottish hound.
Exactly.
I'm supposed to be moving, shaking.
It's fucking grass.
It's mountains.
I'm swimming.
That's your biology.
That's my biology.
Okay.
But I'm putting the city where I'm walking around.
I'm on my electric.
Wearing pants and shit.
I'm wearing pants, dude.
It's crazy.
Yeah, you should be in a kilt hunting.
I should be fucking hunting in a kilt.
You and Russell Westbrook should dress the same.
That's right.
I need to dress like Russell Westbrook.
Yes.
Yeah.
I'm not even going to bring up the cultural appropriation thing.
They think my culture is a joke.
It's not a joke.
Black people think my fucking culture is a joke.
It's not a fashion piece.
It's not a freak.
Kanye, Russell.
It's not a trend, Tanya.
It's not a fucking trend.
This is who we are.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't see you rocking it.
Say what?
I don't see you rocking it.
Because I live in a black world, Alex.
Okay?
In order to be accepted, I have to adopt certain things so that people don't think I'm weird.
Like a free Britney shirt.
Like a free Britney shirt.
That's how I conform, okay?
Who cares more about Britney?
Who cares more about a mentally ill white girl than black men?
Okay?
Shout out to Catch Me Outside.
Usually we'll do that.
Usually when we have somebody on our shirt, it's usually R.I.P. I'll give it out.
I'll give it out.
Nah, you've been trying to free people on shirts.
When Lil Wayne was in prison, Free Weezy.
You be trying to free people.
So it's death or jail?
Death or jail?
Death or jail.
She gets a shirt.
Death, jail, sports.
I guess she wouldn't.
She said, she'd just be putting live people on shirts.
This is white people's jail, though.
She was grounded for super long.
Very bad.
She's in a room, pissed off.
Yeah.
Her parents don't give her enough freedom.
I hate you, dad.
She's angsty.
We're about to find out that that dad was a hero.
You think so?
She's 39 years old.
She's about to marry this 27-year-old guy that she's been with for five years.
Yeah.
Right?
So, like, and if she is bona fide crazy, like if she actually is, and I hope she's not.
I'm an asshole.
I keep liking all her crazy posts because I see you.
I see you like that.
And I just want to encourage the crazy stuff.
She threw the cheeks up on the grid.
That deserves a double tail.
You know, she's crazy because she was like, my ass is real.
It's like, it's believable.
Yeah, that's very bad.
Ain't nobody doubting that, Shorty.
Them honkers might not be.
Remember when she got honkers out of nowhere?
Really?
Out of nowhere?
She'd had the flock.
When we were young, she got honkers out of nowhere, and people are like, I think Brittany got breast implants.
And then it was like, no, you just started watching her at 14, you fucking creepy.
She didn't have titties yet.
She was on the Mickey Mills Club.
Like, what are we talking about?
Was she in Disney star?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't.
I thought her sister was Disney.
I thought it was only the sister.
And I think they both were.
I think they both were.
Yeah.
I only knew her.
Christina Aguilera.
Oh, I know Christine.
And JT and JT.
TRL.
TRL broke her, bro.
The greatest AR in a game, Carson Daly with the two fingernails painted.
Honkers Out Of Nowhere00:15:00
Legend.
I know he did that.
Yeah, he did that.
Yeah.
Yeah, she might have got breast implants, bro.
She may have.
But look, they worked out.
Yeah, man.
I don't know.
I just thought about that today.
Like, what?
There's a couple of things I thought about that I want to get off my chest.
I want to talk to you guys about.
The other thing that I thought about, because I've been diving into Rome a little bit, the Roman Empire.
I saw you tweet about this.
I was wondering where this came from.
My mind was blown.
Because I'm starting to research the Roman Empire, and you always hear about these things that are happening in the big stadium.
What the fuck was it called?
They call us in the Coliseum.
The Coliseum.
Okay.
Things are happening.
I'm not even researching that much, apparently, but all these things are happening.
The Barclays of Rome.
What is it called again?
Exactly.
And then they make it.
Don't ever say the Barclays of Rome ever again.
The disrespect to the Columbia.
It wasn't that nice.
The Coliseum wasn't that nice, though.
It was the only one there was.
It was open air.
You know what I mean?
If it was the garden of Rome, it would be way nicer.
You want a dome back then?
It's the year.
People were getting massacred in the Coliseum.
Knicks getting massacred in the garden.
Exactly.
It makes sense.
Way more massacres.
So, yeah, the visitors were massacred.
Like the animals would come in.
They were playing away games.
Tigers just mauling these fucking Romans.
Yeah, the Romans are the Knicks.
So I'm looking up this Roman Empire, right?
And you always see this big thing.
And they make such a big deal about like, oh, they had these waterways under there, and they could have these ships floating and all that other stuff.
And they make that seem like it's the biggest invention that's ever happened in history.
Pretty wild.
It's kind of wild, right?
It's kind of wild.
It's like pretty wild.
It's impressive, but let's just back up for one more second, right?
I got cousins, don't got aqueducts now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you're pathetic.
Your people are pathetic.
There's no question.
Yeah, yeah.
Cousins here in America.
We smelled them.
We got the wedding.
No, no, no.
They don't shower out of respect, man.
They can't rub the water in a home flames face.
That's the biology, bro.
So, okay, so yes, obviously impressive for the time, the aqueducts, 100%.
But what I'm looking at these, and they make a big deal.
The ships, they made a big deal about like the humans fighting the tigers and humans fighting these elephants and all the things that would happen inside the Coliseum, right?
And then I'm looking at these videos, and it dawned on me.
I'm like, how the fuck did they get these animals to Rome?
I'm going, you have a rhinoceros.
They had a rhinoceros.
This is one of the most dangerous animals on the planet now.
2,000 years ago, some Romans transported a rhinoceros.
This is before I just shoot you with some tranquilizer, you pass out for a fucking month, and then now you're in Rome.
Like this is what they do with King Kong, right?
They shoot him with the trank to get the guy over there.
And this is in now in fake, right?
Back in the day, it is not like they had fucking Hummers or nothing like that.
You are hauling a rhinoceros, an elephant, tigers, lions from other parts of the world to Rome.
That's the most fucking impressive thing.
I mean, it's mind-boggling.
Yeah.
This is how crazy it is.
At one point, at one festival, 2,000 gladiators, 70 lions, 40 wild horses, 30 elephants, 30 leopards, 20 wild donkeys, 19 giraffes, 10 antelopes, 10 hyenas, 10 tigers, 1 hippo, and one rhino.
Son, it's so crazy.
No one put all that on my ship, dog.
Come on.
You a Bible boy.
You know what it is.
This shit ain't impressed.
I thought they did.
Yeah.
That they scooped up so many animals from around the world that animals started to go extinct.
Yeah.
Now, animals go extinct.
And we're like, all right, well, we got all these machines.
You're scooping up all the fish from the water.
You see conspiracy.
You see all the poachers.
We're talking about dudes in sandals and the skirts with the pointy bottoms running around getting fucking dangerous lions gone from Greece.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm like, holy shit, how the fuck did they do this?
So I'm watching this video.
You know how they would get the tigers?
This is the ballsiest shit in the world.
How the fuck do we not have movies made about this?
Fuck Morpheus.
Or where was the guy in the Coliseum?
No, that's fair.
Just a majority.
I don't say fuck Morphe.
What's the matter?
Put some respect on it.
Maximus Decimus.
Fucking Maximum.
Fuck Maximum.
Panda, the armies of the North.
Fuck Maximus.
Light work, the Maximus shit.
This is what they would do.
You want tigers?
You're in Africa, right?
You going to get these tigers?
Okay.
You are on a horse.
What's faster than a horse?
A fucking tiger.
You got to get the cubs.
So what you do is when the mom walks away from the cubs, you scoop up all the fucking cubs, right?
You start rolling on a horse, right?
The tiger mom starts to catch up.
You dropped one cub.
The mom instinctually grabs the cub, takes it back to the nest, then runs after you again.
You keep moving.
You drop another cub.
You keep dropping cubs until eventually you're far enough away or she runs out of energy.
And maybe you got one or two and then you bring those back.
Son, how many motherfuckers had to die?
How many motherfuckers had to die in order for them to lose?
Use that energy.
Is this what you're doing?
This is your thing?
Is this how you're?
You just kidnapped the militia.
I'm going to be unimpressed by the most impressive things.
The Coliseum's crazy impressive.
Indoor plumbing back then is crazy impressive.
You're talking about stealing babies.
The fucking parents.
They stole children.
Indoor plumbing is the easiest thing.
The reason why they didn't invent it is because people were terrified of water.
Not because it was hard.
You take the water, you put it in shit.
Water killed people back in the day.
So you're like, why would I put it in things?
They had clean water.
No, they didn't have clean water.
All water killed people.
Don't stop killing people.
People are just killing everybody.
Aqueducts are just killing everybody.
Water killed people back in the day.
People would drink water.
Babies would drink cider.
They drink alcoholic cider.
You give it to a baby because the aqueducts are just killing everybody.
No, motherfucker.
You have to move the ships on something.
But having water is easy.
So the aqueducts were giving them water that wasn't drinkable.
Yeah, they weren't drinking water.
They weren't drinking water back when.
Nobody drank water.
No, they drank alcohol.
People drank alcohol until like the 1500s or some shit like that.
Dude, once they started, they literally voted.
When until when?
Because it wasn't from the dawn of time until 1500.
I do believe there was a time period where people thought water could kill you.
It did kill you.
But I also think having indoor plumbing is pretty fucking crazy.
They just gamed the fucking mom lion.
The end of the Sun King.
After the Sun King in France, they started going, all right, maybe we could drink some water.
And then they would do like tea and coffee and that kind of stuff because it was heated up.
But they had this huge distrust of water.
Couldn't do it.
And then I looked this shit up.
Who was the first coach to really fuck with tea?
The Muzies.
I assume Mussy.
Mozzies have their intellectual breakthrough after coffee.
Oh.
Son, if you look at this is the crazy thing.
I'm like getting into my YouTube conspiracy shit again.
Bro, imagine this.
Imagine your society, right?
And you're just drinking alcohol all day.
That's all you do is drink alcohol.
And then you switch from alcohol to coffee.
Think of the productivity.
Yeah.
You go from being drunk all day.
Through the roof.
Through the roof.
And that's where you have these like, you know, this breakthroughs of intelligentsia.
You got these French people thinking of ideas all of a sudden.
Yeah.
Right?
When they're not just letting food just rot because they're drunk all day.
Like, oh, I guess it's cheese.
Yeah.
That's marvelous.
I can't believe you think cheese is more impressive than bringing a fucking rhinoceros from South Cheese to Rome.
Coffee.
You know why they didn't?
Because they're just gaming the mother lion's instincts.
You just take advantage of her instincts.
That's all.
I was with you until he said people never drink water.
That's just stupid.
You weren't with him before that.
You and I looked at each other.
How was it?
That he's obviously drinking water.
He's gonna be doing it.
He's been winning with it.
At the end of the day, can I be honest with you?
The 60s.
People didn't drink water.
People didn't drink water until the Industrial Revolution.
This has to be one of the dumbest takes you ever had.
People didn't have water.
People didn't drink.
You said you could do brain surgery.
People didn't drink water until, honestly, until the Dust Bowl.
All right, guys.
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I just can't believe that you are going to take the position of it's not impressive to take a rhinoceros anywhere, even now.
They just stole cubs, yo.
I thought they were taking grown-ass animals on there.
That's where I was like, hold on, I want to hear where this is going.
So I just felt a bit let down.
I thought, how are they going to game this fucking fast ass lion onto a boat?
Or just shoot the parents and steal the cubs.
They didn't have bullets back then.
Arrows.
Say what you just said again.
Arrows.
Say what you just said again.
Shoot the mother and steal the cubs.
Yeah.
But arrows?
Shoot an arrow into an elephant.
Shoot an arrow into a rhinoceros.
No, a lion.
We're talking lions.
We're talking about rhinoceros.
I was talking about things.
Now you're moving to goalpost.
I just said lion.
Also, how do you know you're going to hit the what if you hit it and then just comes at you?
You got the quick reloads?
You're not fucking Achilles out here, dog.
Take a human.
You're bowling your ass.
You can't even go away on the Jeep Wrangler.
You got a horse and a horse looking at you like, fam, I'm not faster than a fucking lion.
It's over.
You're dead.
Now you guys are coming towards me.
Multiple people, multiple teams.
People taking shots.
I thought we're going to get fucking adult animals onto this boat.
I can't entertain.
That's not that.
They're fucking Jamie Spears with animals.
That's all they are.
They're just taking a bunch of animals and then fucking holding them captive.
That's it.
A bunch of babies.
This is, I cannot even, I can't play along.
I can't even play along.
I can't play along.
It's an interesting comedic approach.
It's not comedic approach.
It's an interesting comedic approach.
It's the story of the greatest empire in the world.
Because of the fucking animals?
Yes.
Not the colonel.
Something else is important.
Building things.
There's no mongles that lasted for 2,000 years.
Building things is a fucking thing.
Rocks are heavy.
They don't go.
Rocks are heavy.
They don't go anywhere.
Oh, my God.
Rocks are heavy.
They don't go anywhere.
How they build it?
Rhinocera?
They can move.
If you built the fucking pyramids out of rhinoceros, how they build a coliseum?
There's no cranes back.
How did they build the coliseum?
Just a couple of slaves doing the damn thing.
Italians are still building things in New York.
It's what they do.
Yeah, but they got equipment.
They're standing on the side of the road, building shit, harassing women walk by.
Same thing has been happening for the last 2,000 years.
That's impressive.
Yes.
Yes, they had no equipment.
Italians are fucking union weapons now.
What do you need?
Is it you need equipment for that?
You need equipment to lift a fucking rock and put it somewhere, Toey?
Crazy.
What are you talking about right now?
Now you care about equipment.
You don't care about the equipment.
I'm using your same argument against you.
You don't care about the equipment.
I'm using rhinoceros.
I'm not saying, no, I don't.
I'd much rather you build a fucking Coliseum without equipment or you steal a baby animal without equipment.
Yeah, yeah.
The rocks don't fight back.
The rocks are at least heavy.
You should pick them up.
Rhinoceros isn't heavy?
How do you describe fat bitches?
A rhinoceros.
No, that baby one.
You see a girl, you're like, yo, she looked like a rhinoceros.
You know, look like a rock from the Coliseum.
I could have did that shit.
Me and Mark could grab a baby rhinocera right now.
And then what happens when a mom come through the hole?
Take that motherfucking dad.
Throw some rocks out of the stuff.
See, you can throw the rocks.
You see what I'm saying?
You're using the rocks as weapons.
A baby rhinocera is an old funny way to say it.
A baby rhinocera is a very funny way to say it.
But I'm with it.
It's just baby.
You see what he's doing?
You got his back and he's still shitting.
I know.
You see what it's shit?
You know his back with his fake argument and he's still shitting us.
It's not a fake argument.
Yours is a fake argument.
No, mine is real.
It's impressive to get a rhinoceros from Sudan to fucking baby.
What do you feed it?
What do you feed it?
You know what a rhinoceros eat?
Who gives a fuck?
Feed them what you're eating.
Spaghetti.
You feed a spaghetti.
Akash, do you know what's happening?
It's the year negative 27.
Yeah, the rhinoceros is drinking.
They're already 27 out here.
Okay?
They went to the Sudan.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sudan isn't even Sudan.
It's just desert.
Sudan's still barely Sudan.
Exactly.
So imagine back then.
You got to deal with all that Sudanese shit.
Times 10.
Okay?
Now it's crazy to go to Sudan.
Imagine you went to Sudan right now to get a rhinocera.
Motherfuckers go crazy.
Back then?
Uh-uh.
Okay?
The fact that you're giving pushback on this is mind-boggling.
They might have got the run of the body.
It's mind-boggling.
If I said it was anything to the Indians did, oh my God, I'd be the most amazing thing ever.
I'd be lying to myself.
I'll be lying to me.
I don't know.
I'd be with you, but I'd be like, really, that impressive, huh?
What's something impressive?
Building a fucking circle out of stone?
Even English people could do that.
White people did that shit.
Yeah, y'all did that.
That's how easy that shit is.
Romans are white people.
Say what?
Romans are white people.
Everything you're talking about.
We're talking about British white people.
Real white people.
Stonehenge.
Oh, yeah.
Italians.
They're so fucking white of the whites.
Sicilians.
And just became white in like 1930s.
Sicilians, maybe.
These fucking Italians we got now, these espresso drinking fucks up in Florence, those are white people.
We don't know.
We don't know.
Jersey shows white.
Jersey Sherwood white songs are white.
We didn't consider Irish people white.
Yeah, they were late.
That's where white is from.
Yeah.
Yeah, like white, not everybody gets to be white.
Y'all are going to get there.
Y'all are going to get there.
I'm good.
I don't want to tell you.
I'm good.
Let me tell you something.
If these Mexicans keep making babies, y'all are going to be white very.
No, they just started with Latinos.
They started making Latinos.
They got to separate.
Dividing conquerors.
They started getting white.
They have white and snow.
I like that.
I wanted to be with you.
I did.
I was hyped, dog.
No, you did.
I was hyped.
I'm serious.
I'm an honest guy.
You have no respect for animals.
You want me to give you the respect for animals.
No, animals, children, please.
To dig into Roman literature while we're waiting for this 20-minute discussion.
But for the elephants, guys on horseback would basically lead and charge them into pre-dugout pits.
Yeah, this is it.
And the elephants would end up in the pits, and then they wouldn't feed it or give them water.
But I guess no one drank back then.
So they would get physically depleted.
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Elephant's drink.
Elephant strength.
And then they would capture it.
And then with bears, they would go into like... Bears.
Okay, the way they do bears.
There's light work.
I'm listening for bears.
They would fire off some trumpets.
The bear would be disoriented.
Then they'd lead him into a predetermined net, catch them, and then take the limbs and tie them to wooden planks.
Now you got a bear with little boards.
Light work.
That is so impressive.
Did you see what a bear did to Leonardo?
That impressed me more than Seal.
Do you see what the bear did to Leo and the Revenant?
And Leo should have done that.
That impresses me more than 10 years.
That's not even more impressive.
1,000 years before Revenant, they dug a hole and starved the animal, son.
That is not that impressive.
You never done that to a girlfriend who was gaining a little weight.
More pits.
Stop the elephants.
You never got a girl back into competition shape.
Al.
Yo, the bear shit is impressive.
You never had a girl had to drop weight because you had a big party coming up or something in the basement.
Yo, get me some of the basement, please.
Lock the door.
I'll give you bears.
Bears is impressive.
Lions?
They do the first thing.
Because bears more impressive than a rhinoceros.
Do you know what a rhinoceros is?
I think giraffes are the most impressive.
Okay, go.
You got to build a super big cage.
Thank you.
The tallest cage ever.
Thank you.
Like, literally?
Just let it.
I'm with him on the shop.
Think about how dull goes.
That cage is so tall.
Who's building a cage that tall?
They're just really thin and skinny and they don't even fight back.
Oh, they don't know.
You never seen a bull giraffe fight?
You never seen a bull giraffe fight?
That shit is like fucking Will Smith's daughter.
It's just whip your hair back and forth, dog.
Seriously, that's how they fight.
They headbutt.
That long neck.
Yeah.
Yeah, they got to get pretty far down.
They do it.
They golf, bro.
That's fucking top golf.
They're dangerous animals, bro.
You don't respect animals.
You don't respect nature.
I sure don't.
Fuck all the other Roman accomplishments.
This is the one.
Nothing they've done is impressive.
They steal cubs.
Nothing they've done is impressive outside of animals.
They steal cubs.
The bear shit, they're playing music, distracting a fucking grown-ass bear.
It's just kind of like, hey, that's cool.
You figured that out.
Yeah, what's song in this play?
Disorient a bear with motherfucking saints going marching in or whatever.
That's impressive to me.
It's a grown-ass bear.
An elephant, you starve it.
It's kind of fucked up, but that's.
I see that.
You still got impressed.
I see how that's impressive.
You got to get them on the elephant.
You got to pick up the elephant.
Yeah.
You don't think Roman?
That's why I was saying, why'd you leave a cubs?
You just took cubs.
Because the mom would chase after the cubs.
Yeah, and then you drop one.
You drop one.
You just constantly fail to come up with that idea.
That's not smart to come.
You had to fail first.
They didn't have the internet, so they have mad time to think about shit.
Oh, my God.
What about Roman numerals?
How could you figure it out?
How could you find a way to get it?
I'm going to buy it.
My time.
Yo, cut your phone off for one flight.
The ideas you're going to come up with during that one flight will be better than any Roman idea.
Any.
You're being disrespectful to the great Roman Republic.
Son, I'm not going to be able to do that.
You're being disrespectful for the great Roman Republic.
I'm picking you up.
The genius that you have might have been.
This guy's a bad person.
This guy loves Gandhi.
This is crazy.
What is the genius of Gandhi?
He was just an elephant.
He was an elephant at the Romans took.
He just sat there and fucking starved it.
Yeah, but the Romans.
He's a fucking hero for that.
But the Romans can't treat the elephants like they're Gandhi.
But the Romans did not attack elephants after that.
Say what?
The Romans didn't give the elephants their freedom, did they?
No.
Now, that would have been impressive-ass elephants.
To be honest, if the Romans were running India, they would let that motherfucker starve.
The English some bitch-ass colonists.
They're not strong about it.
If the Romans were running India, please believe he would have wilted away.
Art of War, dog, yeah, I know your enemy.
Exactly.
Exactly.
The Romans knew their enemies.
They knew how to respect a rhinoceros.
They knew how to respect the elephant.
You still haven't said how they get the rhinoceros.
Man, this will be impressive.
What?
How did they get the rhinoceros?
They wrote it.
That's impressive.
They wrote it.
That's fire, though.
You see how that's impressive.
They wrote it back.
I saved the best for last.
They wrote it back.
Hey.
One drive.
Hey, you know what?
One ride, non-stop.
Nobody had to watch it.
Nobody had water.
Not for the rhinoceros, not for the people.
Drunk war.
Yeah, that's it.
They were drinking Apple spray.
Also, the people stealing the cubs and dying were probably not like rich Romans.
They were probably like sending their slaves out there.
Like, hey, try it this way.
Hey, try it.
It's impressive.
A bunch of fucking guinea pigs.
Yeah, it's impressive.
You guys have no respect for history or culture.
This sucks.
Do you know what I mean?
What did your people do?
Just sat around and fucking fucked and wrote it down.
Congrats.
Do you know what I mean?
Yo, your grace and Carlos Smiths are doing nothing.
I'm not bringing him to the podcast.
Just start this shit off.
I just can't believe he's watching at home.
His mind is just blown.
He's like, yo, I can't wait.
I dropped this heat on the box.
You waited to drop that heat on the pot.
He's like, I'm a killing digit today, boy.
Y'all don't respect.
Y'all don't respect greatness, yo.
Y'all don't respect greatness.
I can't believe that.
What inspires y'all?
What inspires y'all?
They're not fucking stealing children.
What inspires you?
Yeah, that's some QAnon ass shit, bro.
And then if they don't believe that, yo, they ain't even drink water before the room is baby.
That's why I knew he was in trouble.
I was actually, I thought he was.
They didn't drink water.
They didn't drink water.
Making no crazy lies.
They didn't drink no water.
They wasn't drinking water.
It wasn't drinking water.
I'm so excited.
When you told me this more impressive than the Coliseum, I was like, yo, they did get animals.
How'd they get these animals?
Why is that?
And that's just impressive.
Stealing children.
It's still up to date.
That's impressive, bro.
And I know we help.
It's just rocks.
It stays there.
It's like all the buildings we build are going to be here forever, too.
Oh, my God.
Son, when you saw the fucking pyramid, you were blown away.
Yeah, because it's heavy.
The weight of it impressed me.
And the fact that they could do it 4,000 years ago.
Impressive.
If I knew that they were putting rhinoceros on top of the pyramid, that'd be way more impressive.
That'd be way more impressive.
If they put a rhinoceros at the top of the pyramid, if they got that, I'd be way more impressed.
Anything with rhinoceros, I'm impressed.
Balance.
Remember when Ace Venturo came out the back of a rhinoceros?
Yeah.
Greatest thing he's ever done in his career, Jim Carrey.
That's the greatest thing Jim Carrey ever done in his whole career.
That's the greatest thing he ever did.
And I'll be honest, I'm pretty sure it was a hippopotamus he came out.
It's still one of the greatest things he's ever done in his entire life.
Hippopotamus, I think.
Whatever.
It was a rhino.
Do you see that?
Oh, wow.
Do you see that?
Yeah, that was impressive.
He came out the rhino's ass.
Y'all need better inspiration.
Y'all need better inspiration in your lives.
Inspired by bullshit.
I hate all of y'all.
I hate all of y'all.
I don't ever want to share anything motivational again.
I don't want to see like rhinos so much.
I think it's because they got big noses.
He's like, brother?
I feel attached.
Oh, my God.
Okay?
I can't believe it.
That's why he's not impressed by the pyramids.
The Sphinx lost its nose.
That's why he don't like it.
So apparently they did have water back in the day.
I Googled it.
No, they had water, Mark.
But could they drink it?
I wish they had water.
Nobody.
Did they drink it?
But they're not drinking it.
No.
Water exists.
Water exists.
It happened in fucking 1920.
Could they drink the water?
This is an important thing.
No, they weren't drinking the water.
They weren't drinking the water.
Rich people weren't drinking the water.
Water was rich people.
Water is the news.
You moving the gold.
Poor people don't have beer.
You move in the gold water.
Poor water killed you.
Poor people don't have beer.
Poor people would die.
That's just what it was.
Rich people don't drink water now.
They drink wine.
They still don't mean you can't drink.
You know, rich people drink water.
So they would drink it from like the natural springs and then aqueduct it down.
Or if there was like a cholera outbreak, then they would boil the water.
And in some cases, they would use beer as a substitute.
Exactly.
They would drink beer.
They didn't drink water.
They didn't drink water.
Oh, please believe.
By the end of this podcast, the Roman Empire is the most impressive thing any of y'all ever seen.
Please believe.
They invented television.
Really?
They had television.
They were the first ones that had television.
They didn't have iPhones.
No, they didn't have iPhones.
But they invented television.
Actually, the Scottish invented television.
No big deal.
Just two great empires.
Oh, damn you.
Just two great empires.
Guys, don't.
I don't ever want to share anything exciting with you guys ever again.
I just want to let you know.
That's Chifty.
I want to talk to you later about the Roman Empire.
You're going to be really impressed.
This is why people have kids.
This is why people have kids.
I realize now.
That man was yelling at us because he wasn't impressed.
He thought I made a decision not to be impressed.
I never wanted to be violent to you.
When I told you about the fact that they put an elephant in the thing and you looked at me like I said, my girl's really funny.
You know what I mean?
Or just something like that.
And you gave me the same look.
Like it was equally impressive.
I wanted to punch you in your fucking head.
I wanted to take your head.
I want to slam into the corner of the table.
Oh, man.
That's what I wanted to do.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
I wanted that one.
I wanted that.
I can't believe you guys couldn't find anything impressive in that.
I cannot wait.
I will remember this for the rest of my life.
I will remember this for the rest of my life.
When you guys are like faking interest in some like famous person story and you're like, oh, it's so hilarious.
I'm like, oh, is it?
Oh, is that hilarious?
That's pretty goddamn funny, isn't it?
You just led him with the wrong thing.
That's all.
If you taught us how they got the fucking tigers, dog.
Suck dicks.
Suck dicks, suck dicks.
Let's go ahead with the wrong thing.
Rhino never fails.
You didn't leave a rhino.
You led him with tigers.
What?
Tigers.
Tigers are pretty fucking impressive.
Hold this community open, dog.
Watch with Tiger King a whole documentary.
They're just kidding.
You all was enthralled.
Oh, we're tigers.
They're in the cage.
Not tigers in the fucking forest.
I wasn't impressed by him.
I was watching it like a fucking circus.
But I wasn't like, hot is Joe exotic.
Get these tigers in their cages.
Ah, gosh, you've been dressing like him ever since.
You changed the way you dress based on that.
That's just because I'm gay.
You change the way you dress.
That's just because I'm gay.
Oh, man.
Unbelievable.
This is the least impressive take in history, right?
Roman Empire is pretty cool.
And then you're like, was it?
Was it?
You just couldn't catch a house cat.
I don't think either of you could catch a house cat.
I don't need to.
I'm doing it right now.
You need to catch a house cat right now.
You can't buy a fucking B-52 bomber.
It's still impressive that you can do it.
That's impressive.
You can't catch one.
Bang.
Caught.
Not words.
Give me an American flag.
I'll catch a house cat right now.
No problem.
How do you do that?
Just catch that motherfucker.
Oh, fuck.
That was impressive to y'all?
No.
That was impressive.
It was impressive to you?
Catching the cat?
Yeah, dog.
They need to move.
What was more impressive after they caught the shit and that cat was scratching the shit out of that motherfucker?
And they still held on to it.
That was the impressive one.
That's respectful.
Oh, look at the cat.
The cat is bugging out, like, biting and scratching his motherfucker.
He's like holding it by its head.
And then one other person grabs it and the cat's like mawing them apart.
Yeah.
Impressive.
The catch, yeah, mid.
It was actually a good cat.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Big ass flat.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I just said they took a rhinoceros from South Sudan to Rome.
And you said it was a rhinoceros.
Hold on, rhinoceros.
You said the trophy.
I just said they took a rhinoceros from South Sudan.
Not North Sudan.
South Sudan to Rome.
Where they had a baseball game though?
Where they had a baseline, though.
Nah.
Alex, you just puffed your chest and you said the guy held a cat while he scratched his core arms.
Yes.
That was impressive.
Yeah.
You said that.
The Romans dug a hole and starved it.
Oh my God.
How do you get out of the hole?
How do you get out of the hole?
So you take a bunch of motherfucking slaves.
A bunch of slaves going get one rhinoceros out the hole.
Got you that one.
No, I'm wrong.
I hope you get a nosebleed today.
But why?
I want that for you.
But what?
I want you to spontaneously start bleeding out of your nose.
And I want it to drip on your stupid shirt.
And I want you to, oh, fuck.
And then, uh-uh, my nose is bleeding.
I want that to happen to you today after what you put me through.
You gave me an aneurysm.
You took a year off my life.
You took a year off my life.
Just me?
What about this guy?
He will get his punishment.
Okay, okay.
He will get his punishment one day.
Maybe not this life, maybe the next life.
You're going to come back as a Roman Emperor.
I would love it.
That's fine.
I would love it.
That's fine.
You have a very easy job.
Oh, no.
Because you have to drink alcohol.
There's no water.
Yeah, there's no water, is there?
Akash.
Drink your alcohol.
I hope you like drinking, Arkash.
I'm going to love it.
And you're going to have to eat beef, too.
I'm going to love that dude.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm just doing all the fun shit I can't do now.
I'm sorry.
You're going to come back as a Muslim emperor.
With a harem of women.
Yep.
And conquering India.
Oh.
And making Indians build things.
That'll mean.
Yes.
If I really want to punish him, I'll have him catch baby tigers.
That workout you did today.
Do you realize you slab and say how they caught the rhinoceros?
I just want to say, I just want to say, you know what?
Okay, I made it up.
They never had a rhinoceros, okay?
I just had to reach for a bigger animal, okay?
You know, they had a fucking Tyrannosaurus.
That would be impressive.
Is that impressive?
That's the way they got it.
No, no, they did have a rhinoceros.
They did.
It was a big white rhinoceros.
They got one of the whites.
They're a little slower.
A little easier to catch.
Oh, God.
But to what Dub just said.
I'll caught many white female rhinoceroses.
You're not impressed by that.
You guys completely ruined my workout.
I am worked back up to where I usually am before a workout.
I am worked back up to that.
So the rest of my day is ruined.
Thank you guys so much.
I had a good couple hours.
It was nice.
And now I feel like absolute, complete shit.
Welcome to Flagrant.
Shout out to Kid Super, everybody.
Shout out to our boy Kid Super.
Kid Super won the Carl Lagerfeld Award or something like that.
I have it written down somewhere, but basically won this very prestigious award.
And a lot of people who've won this award in the past have gone on to do absolutely amazing things.
If you guys don't know who Kid Super is, he's really like a truly brilliant creative man.
And he has a clothing line called Kid Super.
It's our boy Column, who spells his name Colm.
So I only fucking call him Colm.
He made the robe for the entire store that you guys have seen before.
But no, he's seriously brilliant fucking dude.
And he was out there, I think it was Fashion Week in Paris, was it?
Yep.
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And he won this award.
And like, I just think that there's going to be massive things for this kid.
He's just a great fucking guy, hilarious.
And I'm just super proud of him.
So we wanted to give him a shout out on the podcast.
Sorry if we butchered the award.
Okay.
It's the LVMH prize.
LVMH Prize.
That's Louis Vuitton.
Moay.
Moay.
Hennessy.
Hennessy.
Oh.
Wow.
The LVMH prize.
Carl Lagerfeld.
That's the award.
That's fire.
That's fire.
That's literally.
That's fire.
And Louis Vuitton.
Now it's impressive.
Okay.
Is that impressive, guys, or no?
Incredibly impressive.
Oh, that's impressive.
Incredibly impressive.
Impressive?
Nigga, the competition he beat out.
Yeah.
Fucking children.
Yeah.
And it's called the Carl Lagerfeld Prize.
Oh, it's Color College.
Whatever the fuck it is.
Calm.
R.I.P. Okay?
We love you.
We appreciate you.
And congratulations, Doc.
All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because we got shows.
The motherfucking infamous tour is coming to your city.
And I got important information about all the COVID mandates, et cetera, that these different states and cities are putting in plates.
So pay the fuck attention, okay?
Important.
San Diego, you're good.
All right.
Austin, you need proof of vaccs or a negative test that is required.
You understand that?
Proof of VAC or negative test.
If you're not vaccinated, just go get that negative test.
Make sure you go get that negative motherfucking test beforehand, okay?
Go do that shit if you are not vaccinated, all right?
That's right.
We're not mandating anybody gets vaccinated.
You're just going to go get that negative test to prove it, and then we're going to film this goddamn special.
I'm so fucking excited.
Austin, I will see y'all there.
Let's see.
Louisville is vax or negative tests within 72 hours.
Cincinnati is vaxx or negative tests within 48 hours.
Philly is vaxx or negative test within 48 hours.
Indy, vax or negative tests within 48 hours.
DC, vax or negative tests within 48 hours.
San Fran is vax only, okay?
Now, if you have some sort of medical exception, like maybe you're pregnant or that kind of stuff, maybe they'll work with you.
But the city of San Francisco is a bunch of fucking cucks and cucks make stupid rules.
So they're saying you have to be vax only.
That is the city's policy.
Nothing we can do about that.
I wish it was vax or tests.
But again, this is a city run by cucks.
So they're, you know, cucks are going to cuck.
Madison, vax or negative test within 48 hours.
Chicago, you're good.
And Minneapolis, vax or negative tests within 48 hours.
Jacksonville, you know with Florida, baby.
You already know, baby.
You good.
And yeah, so make sure you do that.
And those are the shows we added Chicago.
We added another one in San Francisco.
We added another one in D.C.
A lot of these shows already sold out.
We will see you there.
I am so fucking excited, man.
The tour is really kind of gearing up, man.
We're having some fun, man.
We're having a lot of fun.
I can't wait to do this special and just see y'all, man.
So I'm very excited.
Akash, what you got?
Yo, I'm going to be in Austin as well, the 23rd through the 25th at Moontower Comedy Festival.
I am headlining on the 23rd.
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October 1st, Houston.
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Two shows on Friday.
Bring your ass through.
October 5th, New York.
I'm going to be at New York Comedy Club.
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We're going to be doing a little something.
So come through New York Comedy Club on 24th and 2nd.
October 15th and 16th, Toronto at the Rock Pile Nightclub.
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Just added October 21st through 23rd.
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Hurry up and buy tickets because those will sell as well.
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Sorry, that's November 6th.
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And then December 9th through 11th, D.C. at the Comedy Loft.
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Okay, let's talk about this beating up these chicks.
This is Feelings No Facts.
Feelings no facts.
Yeah, we're going feelings no facts because it's already to the point where I just want to throw away everything.
I want to throw away everything.
We're at the point where it's like, what's the point of a career?
Let's just make it all explode.
Okay?
Let's just go down.
Let's go down in a ball of flames.
Okay.
No, but let's talk about it.
This is an interesting story because these things keep on popping up and nobody seems to want to address it.
And you know who they never ask how they feel about this?
Or maybe they do.
We just never hear.
We always hear about like these right-wing pundits are always talking about it.
The left-wing doesn't really say anything because they know that it's fucked up, but they can't really be anti-trans.
So the right-wing guys use it as a way to kind of push back against trans rights.
I think it's kind of like a convenience.
And push back against over-correction, I think, more so.
What does that mean?
They're pushing back against what they feel is like the PC movement overreaching.
And this is the one that they think they have the easiest time arguing because it kind of also flips their feminism argument against them.
Yes.
And it's like, if you have a trans woman in the women's bathroom, that's enough for conservatives to go, yo, this is fucked up.
But liberals will be like, you have to respect her as a woman.
She'd just go, you was in the bathroom as a woman.
It is what it is.
Once you get violence into the equation, right?
Then all of a sudden there has to be a little bit of pushback.
Like, do you want these bitches being beat up by a dude who's like an ex-Navy SEAL?
Like the dude was literally ex-military.
There's a picture of him before he transitioned where he's looking like fucking Gordon Ryan, dude.
Do you know who that is?
Jiu-Jitsu dude?
Yeah.
The Jiu-Jitsu goat.
The guy was fucking stacked when he was a dude.
Transitioned to the chick, still in pretty good shape.
But there's an image of him fucking shit out of this girl.
So what I'm curious about is what the girls that are fighting these trans women think.
Yeah, I would love to hear that.
That's all I want to hear.
I just want to hear the girls.
Like, do they look at it as a challenge?
Are they really willing to test their fighting skills?
Are they going, I'm a martial artist.
It doesn't matter who you put in front of me.
Are they going, you know what I'm saying?
I actually watched a CNN interview.
This was a few years ago.
It was probably like six or seven years ago.
The Fallon Fox story probably Fallon Fox fighter.
Someone that fought Fallon Fox that was like, yeah, like the CNN reporter was just kind of asking about the fight and they were like, yeah, you know, it was good, like good competitor, blah, blah, and started trying to bait the conversation into a trans issue.
Yeah.
Where the fighter didn't really seem like she was interested in talking about trans fighting.
Yeah.
And then kind of got like baited into it and then like kind of misspoke and was afraid of getting canceled.
I think if you're a high-level competitor, you're just thinking, I don't care.
I want to fight them and I'm not going to have any excuses.
You could talk to me all you want about bone density and all this advantage that person might have had for this person, 30 years of being a male genetically, whatever, sexually, whatever.
But I don't want that.
I just see that as competition and I should win and that's it.
There's also a weird steroid.
A competitor might be like, Let's not even let that shit that is an excuse enter into my mind.
Win or lose, I win or lost, and that's it.
A high-level competitor might be like, All the excuses, let's just go because I'm sure the rules are the same as the Olympics, where like they just got to make sure that your testosterone is within a female range, right?
Right?
So, if we're basing your strength and ability strictly on testosterone, right, which I think is unfair because there's probably other things that go into it, but it's like a testosterone estrogen level, right?
That's what makes you quote-unquote female or be able to compete with these females.
I just don't subscribe, and maybe it's my sexism.
Like, I don't care if I'm a dude that has no testosterone in my body as all.
Like, no girl's gonna beat me up, like, yeah, even if she's got testosterone, yeah, right?
Like, I know that's sexist to say, but I believe it's completely unfair.
Well, this is where it gets weird because there's a steroids thing that happens, okay, where a lot of these fighters, men and women, are on steroids.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, they're like, Yo, do you want to fight a trans woman?
And they're like, Okay, yeah, it's the same weight class, like maybe they got more muscle, more bone density, whatever, but their estrogen is higher and their testosterone is lower, and I'm on fucking testosterone.
So, don't start testing testosterone because my testosterone is crazy, or like I had to cycle in the offseason, and then I got off it and started using beta blockers, whatever the fuck.
You're saying the female competitors, yeah, exactly, right on the steroids, so in a genetically female, like the genetically female ones.
So, in a weird way, it kind of exposes testosterone use in female athletes or female MMA fighters, at least, because they're like, Well, fuck, don't test it for testosterone because it's going to expose me that I've been fucking cheating as well.
And then on top of that, they're like, I think you got to measure clits.
I think if I think it's got to be dick or clit, has to be in like the one centimeter to three centimeter range, yeah, and then you're good.
But if you have like a full cock, like if you're just all like four skin, if that's all that's left, like your actual like phallus has just kind of shriveled away, yeah, I think you can compete with women, yeah, I'm okay with that.
Just like a hand and like a panty hose kind of thing, yeah, it's real floppy, yeah, like if you turned like um, like a smurf upside down, like you know, those hats that they have, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are we thinking, or am I thinking of a Keebler elf?
You're thinking of a Keeber elf, Keebler elf, yeah, just that.
If that's it, I think you can go, but micro penis, yeah, I guess on erect.
Oh my god, talking about micro, and then we get back to the story real quick.
You know how like dwarfism is a thing and gigantism is a thing, right?
Gigantism we've all heard of, right?
Has there ever been a dwarf with gigantism?
I don't think you can, maybe, maybe one of us dwarfs tend to have no because they'd have that same body, it would just be fucking like a giant toddler.
Yes, oh, dwarfs tend to have small hands, but big head, I don't know, small legs, small arms.
Yeah, these I don't think the things are opposite, I think they're two different diseases, and they're they're just so rare that it you almost never see.
Please tell me there is one right now, Adam Raynor.
Get the fuck out of here.
1899 was the only person in recorded history to have been both a dwarf and a giant.
Are there pictures?
Yeah, holy shit!
That's wild.
So, his adult height was four foot 10 inches.
Oh, but it's a gigantism, a dwarf, so it was supposed to be two feet.
No, I think anything under five eleven is considered a midget.
Yeah, this was hold on.
Oh, no, four foot.
No, no, he was a regular adult.
Oh, he ended up reaching a height of seven foot.
Holy shit, does the body look like a midget still?
Kind of mark, please, just please put this on.
I'm putting up a pic.
Whoa, whoa, that's wild.
No, that's just a regular guy.
He's a dwarf.
He got a V line.
He got that V's gone.
Something's going on with his face, dude.
Fucking chimney sweep.
Okay, but back to the, what's it called, the fighter thing.
What is your...
So I read about this particular fighter, and this is where I have a little more empathy or sympathy or whatever the word is for her, this trans, is because she came out in 2003 as trans.
Before there was a big PC movement, and we were all pretty fucking closed-minded about this stuff.
She was like, yo, I'd like to have the surgery.
Her parents said no.
So she ended up going to war as a male, then had PTSD, all this shit, and still want to do the surgery.
Trans Athlete Controversy00:06:57
So this is like...
Sometimes I think you can question their motives.
Like, what are he just trying to fucking compete and win?
He's trying to beat girls up.
You know how like Dexter found a way to kill people?
Right.
He's like, I'll just kill bad people because I need to do it.
Right.
Like, if you're a guy who just needs to beat women up, then you transition to a woman and then compete in female MMA.
And I don't think this is one of those cases because you made them stay a man and they went to fucking war.
They're like, yo, I just, whatever.
Also, I was thinking about this issue, and I was thinking, won't this just sort itself out with enough time?
Like, if trans athletes keep transitioning and then dominating and winning and like taking all the championships in every woman's sport, we're going to eventually like, yo, this shit got to stop.
Yeah, it's like Shaq made you change the rules.
Yeah.
Basketball.
Exactly.
Right.
So there's going to be like a girl.
So we're going to do this every time and I get it.
But if you step back, can't you just be like, this will take care of itself?
This is one of those problems that you just let it go and eventually everybody will be like, yo, this is what you're doing.
The only issue is if it was regular sports, I think that people don't care enough about female sports.
Most female sports, there's a few, but like people don't care enough about female sports to really like make the adjustments or the changes.
Well, people within the federations do.
Pardon?
If you're leading the women's UFC Federation or the Women's MMA Federation, you care enough about women's sports, you would adjust it.
Yeah, but like in general, I don't think that female sports outside of like maybe like tennis don't drive enough revenue for there to be like real change.
Female sports for the most part on the professional level is sounds fucked up to say, but it's more of like a charity case.
It's like the NBA is going to front the money for the WNBA.
It's not a profitable business endeavor, but it's the right thing to do so we can get more women into the sport.
And maybe the NBA is looking like, hey, look, if women are actually into the WNBA, that means they're definitely going to be in the NBA as well.
And then we can double our market share by getting the other half of the population to care, right?
If this was happening to men's sports, if women were better than men and they were coming in and affecting the game, please realize that this would be changed immediately.
Right.
In a fucking heartbeat.
So maybe you're right.
Maybe it sorts itself out when it enters the UFC.
Maybe it's like when Amanda Noons gets knocked the fuck out by some guy who used to be a fucking Navy SEAL.
Then all of a sudden we go, what is happening over here?
But Fallon Fox lost.
Right?
A girl beater.
So again, I don't think you see that change that hits highest level.
I think the only tricky thing is, Akash, is that if this was any other sport where they don't actually get hurt and potentially killed, I think it'd be okay to just let it sort itself out.
This is a violent sport.
One girl could die, man.
The weird thing I see is every time this story hits the news cycle, it's either the media talking about it or men.
And never really women have to speak up.
Yeah, we're not sure.
Until women speak up, we're not going to do shit.
And what do you think the hesitation is?
They have the pushback of saying, hey, I don't want to compete against trans, but they're so progressive.
So the liberal women want to include trans women in what it is to be a woman, but they are also scared of excluding them and competing against women.
So they're just quiet.
And since it's not happening at a large scale, like there's so few trans people in general, there's even less that are competing in sports and even fewer that are competing even close to the highest level.
You know what I mean?
It's like having a fucking UFC champion from like British Samoa.
It's just so hard.
And that's why men care about it because we're like, nah, shit gotta be fair.
So we're not even watching the fucking trans fight, but we're just like, nah, that shit don't sound fair.
And we care about it.
Like, if we're going to look at ourselves in the best possible way, like, I don't think we like to see women get their ass kicked by gox.
That's also true.
But I don't know.
I don't know why death is the inhibiting factor if that's an outcome in any UFC fight or any MMA fight.
Right?
Like, death is always on the table for any fight, right?
Yeah.
This guy could be at a genetic advantage or whatever.
Yeah.
But if they're the same weight class, how different is it?
Well, I mean, you know.
But if they're both fighting at 130, though.
There's a lot of like...
Well, a guy at 130 and a girl at 130 aren't the same, right?
But on like estrogen blockers and all that shit, I'm like.
That's the thing that we don't know.
We don't know if a guy's testosterone levels reduced to the level, like to a woman's testosterone, it's going to be the same.
I mean, so what she said is, I can't bench as much as I used to.
I went from running a six-minute mile to a nine-minute mile now.
I think she used to bench like 350 as a male, and now she's at like 185 or whatever.
So she said it affected her performance.
There's a video you linked us to, and the guy was using all kinds of terms.
I don't fucking understand.
But he basically said, he said, bone density, a bunch of other things are going to come into play just from having been a male for 30 years.
Yeah.
That just reducing testosterone isn't going to take away.
You're still going to have all these other secondary advantages.
Right.
And can't the women choose to take the fight, though?
Yeah, of course they can.
Of course they can.
But yeah, I mean, look, there's other factors that go into that.
Like, they want to make a living.
They want to do right by the promotion.
They're contractually obligated to take fights.
And if they say no, then maybe the promotion looks down on them.
The promotion is also selfishly going, hey, if we have this fight here, the whole world's going to be talking about it.
And we're going to get named in it.
So they're probably not looking out for that girl as much.
But even going back to like the testosterone numbers, like, have you ever had like an old man like grab you?
Yeah, they got old man's strength.
Old man's strength.
It is a thing.
It's a real thing.
We all know this, right?
Like that old man, like offensive line.
This guy at the YMCA was like 60, like smaller than any of us that were there and lifting way more than any of us.
And even guys that aren't exercising, like just grandpa that just grabs and holds you.
He's got fucking cuts in his fingers who haven't healed for like 20 years.
Like that guy's testosterone levels are super low.
Like you get older, I think naturally your testosterone goes down.
That's why they do TRT, right?
Testosterone replacement therapy.
And people start that even earlier.
Shit, I know people that are on fucking TRT and they're in their late 30s, right?
So I think Dax Shepherd is on it.
Dax is on it.
There's a lot of famous people on it.
So it's like if those testosterone levels already dip, but them old man still got that fucking strength.
Like no grandma's ever grabbed me and I was like, damn, shit.
Yeah.
All right.
All right.
Happy birthday.
All right.
I'll come around more often.
Yeah.
Right.
So there's got to be something else besides just testosterone and weight that's giving a guy an advantage in a fight with a girl.
And that's where I think the issue is, to answer your question.
And what are those things?
Is it just muscle?
Like, maybe the bone density thing?
I don't know.
Like, we need a science nerd to come on over here, but we never had to cross this bridge because everybody kind of was on the same fucking page.
Like, we're like, all right.
The reason why we have two different sports, you know, we don't let girls compete.
It was really generous of us to be like, hey, don't play in our league because we'll fucking do this.
We still want y'all to play.
We still want you to play.
Let's create some rules so you can play.
If Amanda Nunez wanted to fight a guy in the same weight class or whatever, and they were both like, yeah, let's fight.
Would anyone care?
Living In A Dictatorship00:04:59
I think there'd be a lot of people that were not happy with it.
There is someone who's trying to do this.
Some little UFC fighters dude is trying to fight a big girl.
I forget.
Somebody DM'd me about this a while ago.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know if it's going to happen, though.
They keep promoting it as if it's going to happen, but I don't know.
You don't have a problem with Nunes fighting a dude?
If they were an MMA fighter, like if she was fighting another elite MMA fighter, I'd have a problem.
If she was fighting like a random dude off the street who thought he could beat Amanda Nunez, get speed buddy.
Yeah.
Good luck.
Yeah, but if she challenges another MMA fighter, I would be fooling wild, Iowa.
I just don't like it.
She's just dominating everybody, all her competition is like, yo, I need some more comp.
Sam, I don't even like, I don't even like seeing women fight.
Like, it's gross to me, dog.
Wait, how they look or how they fight?
I don't like it, man.
Say what?
Say how they look or how they fight, which one.
No, both.
But like, no, but like, like, seeing them, like, fight and like, they're bleeding and fucking heads all swollen and shit.
Like, it's uncomfortable, but some of those fights have been incredible.
Yeah, but they should be, should they be allowed to, huh?
Should they be allowed to anything that makes me uncomfortable should be allowed?
You have to curate society based on your comfort.
That makes sense.
I like that.
Okay.
That's fair.
You saw the video I sent you.
You know, Mark's always talking about he wants to go to the stand countries.
Yeah.
So I was looking at this guy who went to Turkmenistan, which is like the seventh least visited country in the world.
Like you can't, it's basically North Korea, but like Muslim, but they speak Russian or whatever.
And they had an emperor back in the day who was just like, dogs smell bad.
Outlawed dogs.
Just said, no more dogs.
Said only white cars.
Like he just had all these like random arbitrary rules and they just fucking stuck.
Like how crazy is that?
That's so wild.
Yeah, it's kind of, isn't that?
Yeah, you want to look you want to visit there?
Yeah.
I want to go to all the stands, bro.
I'm telling you.
You're a stand stand.
I'm a stand stand.
I want to go to all the stands.
The only reason I give pushback on a place like that is that you might not get the authentic experience that you want.
What?
In Turkmenistan?
Yeah, just because the Ajpad or whatever, Ajbot, whatever.
Ashkabat.
Ashkabat, yeah.
So it's like the city is kind of curated in the same way like Pyongyang is curated.
They just made all the buildings to look really nice and everything, but there's nobody really fucking there.
That's still fascinating, though.
Like going to Pyongyang, being like, all right, what do you want me to see?
Like, I'm living in this, going to a dictatorship would be fucking crazy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I feel weird, like, give my money to a dictatorship, but also, like, yeah.
I mean, they got plenty of money.
They don't need this shit.
They're doing you the favor by letting you go.
Like, ask people not to come there, baby.
Would you go to Pyongyang?
I would love to.
I would love to.
But I'm not going to do it.
Why not?
No, not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A lot of Koreans.
Almost only.
Only Koreans.
No.
No.
It's just not worth the fucking risk, man.
One thing goes south and all of a sudden, like...
Absolutely not.
And I don't want it, like, I don't want to put America in the position where they got to put all this pressure on fucking North Korea to get me out.
Like, I don't want that whole fucking story where America looks like they're just bending the knee to fucking Kim Jong-un just to get me.
Like, trade like two journalists to get you out.
Yeah, like, fuck that.
Like, if you go there and you get stuck, that's on you.
You knew that you're not supposed to be there.
Yeah.
We're not going in and helping.
I think you'd be salty about your ransom.
Say what?
You'd be mad about your ransom.
What would it be?
I think that's what it is.
What would my Hennessy be?
He loves Hennessy, right?
How much Hennessy for me?
Yeah, probably $3.
LVMH.
Call calm.
Call Kid Super and get a fucking case of Hennessy over to North Korea immediately.
It'd be cool to go if you're like Dennis Robman and Kim Jong-un is like, no, I like this guy.
You're just going and risking, like, I might not ever get out of here.
Auto warrior.
The American that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Spy.
No, banner thief.
Yeah.
I'm thinking of the things Mark steals every single snack from.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, if it's illegal, take something from the mini bar.
I'm going to prison.
Yeah.
100%.
You're done.
Something that is illegal, unless you put your card down in the room.
And then it's illegal.
But if I put my card down in the room, then the mini bar is offline.
Every time we go to the hotel, they go, yeah, he wanted to put your card on the incidentals for some reason.
I go, yeah, yeah.
He does that.
We have to do that.
Yeah, the other option is I call before and I go, hey, can you just make sure there's no fucking stuff in the sink or in the sink?
The refrigerator.
You know how some rooms just have nothing in there?
Yeah.
Like the Denzel Washington and flight rooms.
I can't trust this person with alcohol in his room by himself.
In Mark's case, it's MMs.
It's MMs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I clean out every minute.
Thanks for fucking that up.
I think y'all have always put your cards down.
Not in the beginning.
What?
It was just me and you, you know.
Oh, yeah, that was before I knew.
Yeah.
I didn't rate that shit.
Say what?
I didn't rate it.
And if I did, I would do liquid and you could refill it.
Clear liquid.
They know.
No, they don't.
That shit still works to this day.
Unless it's the places that it's weighted.
And so they can feel as soon as you lift it up.
But if it's not the weighted joints, they don't know.
You fill a vodka with water?
Yeah.
Denzel Washington Flight Room00:08:44
Get out of here.
Wow.
Don't get charged.
Because if one guest goes by, there's no way they can tell which guest did it.
Yeah, exactly.
Now you're caught in a shuffle.
So the next guest that drinks it, as long as it's like three after, actually, it could be the person before you.
Yeah, and you could be saving an alcoholic down the line.
Yeah.
Who's like, oh, I'm going to relapse.
There's vodka in my room.
Let me chug this whole thing.
It's just water.
This is great.
Okay.
So now it doesn't matter if your card's down.
Yeah.
You found a way around the snacks.
I don't do snacks, though.
Easy snacks.
Hey, Al, that was impressive.
This guy's a Roman, dude.
The way you problem solve.
He never drinks water, only alcohol.
No, no, no, you are a fucking Roman, dude.
Your problem-solving skills are on point.
You're drunk as fuck while you're doing it, right?
And your conquests.
You just don't do the rhinoceros thing anymore.
But you are basically a Roman, dude.
You're an elite level Roman.
You're towards the end of the empire.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, where you don't need to do these savage things anymore.
Give them bread, give them circus.
You know?
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That's what I'm on.
That's what Arcas is on.
That's what Miles is on.
Whole squad is on it.
Okay.
And we out here living luxurious because we got luscious motherfucking hair.
Now let's get back to the show.
What else, guys?
Yo, shouts to the goat.
Shout out to the motherfucking GOAT, Dr. Umar Johnson.
Yo, dog.
Mr. Forgood is married for good and got two women.
He married two women in a ceremony over the weekend on IG Live.
Unbelievable.
I mean, just unfucking.
He did it, yo.
He said it on YouTube a while ago, months ago.
I need two wives.
I need a, what do you say?
I need a vegan food wife and a soul food wife or something like that.
Amazing.
You can tell which was which by looking at 100%.
Oh, which one was it?
100%, bro.
You could tell.
Which one?
Light skin was.
Light skin with the dreads was the vegan.
Yeah.
See, I saw the opposite.
Nah.
I saw a light skin with dreads.
It was the hair more than the light skin.
Ah.
For me, that was like, ah, vegan.
Okay, And then the other one was the soul food.
Just right, soul food.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, I need one to rub my feet and one to rub my back.
Yeah.
He said that?
Yeah.
I mean, the guy's a legendary.
He's just, he's like a supremely fucking talented person.
He's like one of these people that comes.
I understand dictators, cult leaders, and that kind of stuff when I see Dr. Umar.
Because he's undeniably entertaining to watch.
Like, it's just so much fun to consume him.
Even the whole time, he's just shitting on me.
I'm like the ideal person he's shitting on, and I'm watching it like this is fucking great.
Yeah.
Right?
And he succeeds.
He continues to do it.
People fall for it.
Yep.
They love it.
People love it.
He's got just enough truth and just enough good, inspiring stuff in it where you're like, okay, he kind of has a point.
I agree with those things he's saying.
And he just still exists today.
He's making shit up left and right.
He just says he's a doctor.
We're like, all right, fine.
What about dictators?
It's entertaining like Umar, though.
I think you have to be that charismatic.
I think in order to be the charisma of a cult leader.
Yeah, like you have to be able to just talk to people.
Like, there's something about the way he talks.
He repeats things a lot, right?
He goes, hello, peace and peace and power, peace and power, black people, peace and power, peace and power.
Like it's almost, what is that?
Yeah, it's like hypnotic.
Hypnotic.
Yeah.
It is hypnotic the way he talks.
You got you feeling like a strong black man when you watch it.
I will be his third wife.
I'm going to be Dr. Umar Johnson.
He wouldn't want to be a fan.
He wouldn't want no shop, man.
He don't want a vegan, a soul food, and an order in.
And an Uber Eats.
You don't want an Uber Eats?
I'm a caviar wife.
Let's go.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think about Umar?
Dude, the two wives thing is crazy.
It's impressive.
It's like he's a good idea.
I think he needs two wives.
I think only one wife couldn't handle that much bullshit coming at him at her.
So the second one is for her more than for him.
He's like, yo, you listen to him at the time.
It's too many words.
I can't do it.
But I also think he's going to have a reality show in the next year.
I mean, he's got it, right?
Somebody's going to give it to him.
It's just so trying to think: like, have we ever had a reality show about like an openly racist family?
Closeted racist, yeah, but not openly.
And that's the thing.
If there was like, if they did a reality show on like an openly racist white family, we could easily do it with Umar.
But I don't think there's been like a Westboro Baptist Church documentary, even though it would be fucking.
Oh, no, it was a documentary, but not a reality show.
He did.
Yeah.
And it was, it was a doc or it was a reality show.
It was a doc.
You said Justin Thoreau did that?
I think so, yeah.
Oh, that's fine.
He like kicked it with the Westboro Baptist Church people and like learned all their shit.
Yeah, it's a doc.
But doc is different than I'll take a documentary, too.
I will take anything.
Because a documentary would be a reality show.
There was one.
It'd be the only documentary with like talking heads with like each of his wives after every altercation.
I don't remember where I saw.
I think I saw a documentary in college, and there's one line.
You're going to have to bleep, but the lady screams at this.
She's like anti-gay protesting, and she just goes, eat feces.
That is a fact.
And I was like, what?
What's the fact about that?
Legend.
Legend.
And they might not be wrong.
What is your reference?
They're eating more feces than people who don't do that.
How so?
No, we eat ass.
Bare minimum.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Straight people eat ass.
Yeah, but not as much as gay people.
If you're sucking a dick after it's been in a butt, even if there's maybe a day that's gone by, there's probably might be some feces, some fecal matter around.
But they're also cleaner, I think, on average.
Who is that?
Gay dudes.
100%.
They're some clean motherfuckers.
So that's why I think it was less feces.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or, but it could just happen all in the same night, dude.
We have it all the same night, sucking and fucking.
I'm sure there's an order to it.
I'm sure there's an order to it.
You really think?
I'm sure it's sucking than fucking.
They're men.
There's a PEMDAS.
No, there's a PEMDAZ.
There's gotta be 100%.
Please excuse my dear Uncle Sally, dude.
That's what it is, dude.
Please excuse my dick.
Your ass.
Yeah, I think that at the end of the day, they're fucking guys.
They're horny as hell.
They're drunk and they're not thinking about anything.
I mean, y'all haven't, you know, y'all haven't, you know, going down on girls' booty, and then it tastes a little bit like shit.
Y'all never licked a booty hole on his face.
He's asking the wrong two guys here.
Yeah, for sure.
All right, maybe you guys know.
You've never after shower.
I never tried to.
Not after a shower.
I've been like drunk as shit face, and I've been down there.
I'd be like, oh, this is the first time.
Shit face is the actual accurate.
I was shit face before and after.
No, but I've had that.
I've gone down.
I've smelled shit.
You've never been hidden in front of back and then the cheeks clap and a waffle of shit air just came at your face.
That's different.
Come on now.
You just had that?
Come on.
Come on.
That's different.
I do that all fond of you.
Yo, yo, yo, you need to get rid of something before we finish this.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, you got one coming?
You gotta have a dude wipe on hand, bro.
You gotta have a condom in your wallet and a dude wipe.
That's the case.
Condom something, man.
Just a book.
Still going to block it, dog.
Just put something over there.
Just put a dude wipe, plug it up.
That's why I put the thumb in there for the smell.
Not to make her feel good.
I'm just like, let me plug that shit.
Got a gas leak.
Yeah, he did.
That's gas leak.
Let me plug this up right quick.
100%.
This is why Dr. Umar would never want you, bro.
Smelling Shit Face Air00:05:12
That's what?
That's why Dr. Umar wouldn't want you.
Because.
You're filthy, though.
I'm a filthy dude.
White people are filthy, bro.
Maybe that's why you don't like you.
Maybe he's just a clean freak.
He's a clean freak.
He's a doctor.
He's a fucking girl.
He's a doctor.
He likes good hygiene.
Get the hands, put on the fucking gloves and the scrubs, man.
Yeah, dude.
Pretty ballsy to have a ceremony getting married to two women because that is illegal.
Which do you kiss first?
It's illegal.
You can't marry two women.
You're right about that.
That's right.
So he's like publicly committing a crime.
Now, that is if he does it legally, right?
If he does it within the legal, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he probably does it like how the Mormons do it.
What's that?
How do they do it?
I don't know.
They're multiple wives, but I doubt that on paper.
Yeah, that's just, that's the nanny.
There's one on paper, and then there's...
The rest are just like my side bitches.
Yeah.
So how do you choose what's on paper?
Who's the paper bitch?
The first one.
But if they got married at the same time.
Oh, they don't do it at the same time.
So you got to have wives.
With a Mormon shit.
It's like, get your family straight with this one, and then you add on.
That's why he's legit.
It's like both my bitches right here.
I already know who I am.
I know what I can handle.
Man, he put it in the universe and he just did it.
This was his index card.
Donations, bro.
He's going to start something.
I guarantee you.
Start something.
Like, this is going to be a trend.
What do you mean?
This is going to be a trend.
You're going to see more people do it.
I think he invented polygamy.
Alexander's.
No, But for shows, showing it, showing it, showing it.
Showing it.
Yeah.
Like, I guarantee you, future will have like three or four.
Like, they're just going to have to top them.
Maybe they're going to be able to do it.
Yeah.
No, but actual ceremonies.
Because weddings are expensive.
So that's affects just the wedding alone.
And now you got to go to wedding.
Families in there, bro.
Three families, crazy.
I have a feeling that there's not extensive family.
Yeah.
I have that.
That is just.
Maybe a few dads missing.
They got walked down the aisle by themselves.
Not a lot of plus ones.
By a brother, maybe.
Yeah.
Okay.
What else we got?
What else we got?
Feelings?
No facts.
All right, we got McGregor and Machine Gun Kelly going at it.
This is interesting.
Yeah, it is.
You know what I find interesting about the Connor McGregor Machine Gun Kelly thing?
Yeah.
They had a little beef at the VMAs.
Seeing both of their PR teams try to be the first one to start the story.
Yeah.
Was fascinating.
So Machine Gun Kelly's team dropped it first.
And this is what I read on People, I think.
And they put out the best thing ever.
Connor attacked him after Machine Gun Kelly said he wasn't willing to take a picture with Connor.
Yeah.
Which is.
I also read he wanted a picture with Megan Fox and she said no and then he got upset.
There's multiple variants.
There's tons of stories on there.
But the idea that Connor was a fanboy and you were like, nah, nah, I'm good.
That's a wild flex.
That's a super flex.
Yeah.
Right?
Connor's team is like, nah, that didn't happen at all.
I forget exactly what Connor said.
They said it was something like he didn't even know who Machine Gun Kelly was.
You said Connor only fights fighters.
Yeah, he didn't.
Yeah.
Yeah, he doesn't fight.
Which isn't true.
He punched an old man, did he?
He didn't punch an old man.
He also threw the water bottle on the train.
He fought a bus.
He threw a forklift at a bus, basically.
This guy will fight anything.
He could fight a rhino.
That guy could take a rhino.
100%.
He would be a rhino hunter.
100%.
He would be a rhino hunter.
Yeah, he's got it in him.
I'm going to put out a movie called Rhino Hunter.
And it's going to be the greatest movie.
How have they not made it?
Just fight all of you.
It's the sequel to Shark Knight.
Yeah.
And you know what?
It's going to be directed by not Alex Meeber.
That's who it's going to be.
I will have Shark Knight too.
We'll make Shark Knight.
Rhino Knight.
That was another thing you said.
How have they not made a movie about this?
I thought it was going to be so fucking epic, y'all.
You got to understand the expectations.
The movie is coming.
The movie is coming.
It will be directed.
Four minutes long.
It'll be directed by fucking Steven Spielberg.
A short film.
It'll be written by David Fincher.
It'll be directed by Ceelan Spielberg, and it'll be about getting the animals to regretting getting animals to run.
Do you think he's going to go from fucking Jurassic Park and dinosaurs to taking cubs?
It's actually in the ballpark.
That's actually not a good argument.
He would do it.
Not in the ballpark.
He's going to do it.
He's going to do it.
You're going to ask for a role.
I'm going to let you play a role.
And what's he going to do?
He's going to be a stick that they fucking use to prod the rhinoceros.
Just stand straight right there.
We'll let you poke a fucking rhino.
And then Al, Al, you don't get to do anything else.
You get to watch it.
The cub story, though.
I thought it was genius.
So exciting.
Dude, the fucking.
How'd you steal a cub?
And it would catch you.
I'm serious.
And then it would drop one.
How do you steal a cub?
Mother's got to go get food for the cup.
So you just got to sit there and wait.
You got to watch.
On a horse.
On a horse, bro.
The horse doesn't go as fast as the tiger.
Imagine holding four cats.
So they got stuck with four cats.
What do you hold them in a basket?
Do you have a chariot?
Do you have a chariot?
Son, y'all don't even know the levels of relaxation going on, son.
Y'all even know.
Do y'all know that fucking Augustus tried to come out with a chariot that didn't have horses in the front.
It had lions?
But that's kind of like a fire.
That's fire.
You can't herd cats.
That's why they have that saying.
You can't.
You can't, Mark.
You can't.
What?
Are you Augustus?
Well, you said he tried.
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Did he succeed?
I feel in that shit.
I thought that was like aught.
He said he tried.
He went for it, dog.
They was trying to go for it back in the day.
I just think you led with a bad example.
That's all.
You didn't get the rhinoceros.
I'm gonna fuck you both.
I want you both to fucking.
You still haven't told us how rhinoceros happened.
Okay.
Rhinoceros is, it's none of your business.
You won't appreciate it.
You can never understand.
I'm making the movie.
Both of your scenes are getting cut out.
Fair enough.
Yeah, we're going to feed Al to the fucking rhinoceros.
Okay?
Give the opposite age for sure.
You're getting put in the rhinoceros.
Okay.
What else?
What else we got?
Machine Gun Kelly.
I think it's a PR stunt.
Interesting.
I think.
Connor's in on it or not?
I think Connor's in on it.
I think he can't be spiraling this badly.
I also think Machine Gun Kelly needs something all the time because none of us know his music.
We're also old.
Some, though.
That's the thing that I realized.
Like, I'm with you on that, and I had that perspective on him for a while, but apparently he had like a number one song.
He's like doing this rock thing.
And it's basically younger girls are into him.
Yes.
That I believe.
The music isn't for our generation.
We just remember him, obviously, from the Eminem beefing before when he was a rapper.
So we're like, oh, yeah, so we should be into your new music.
But the reality is, no.
Was he big as a rapper?
He was always like very like connected industry and had like a devout following.
That's what I remember.
He was known.
He had a couple of songs.
Did he manage them?
So he was always connected.
Yeah, yeah.
Did he manage him?
I think he's one of those guys.
And maybe I'm just old.
Quite possible.
I think he's one of those guys that maybe he's an industry plant.
The talent isn't as big as the star power.
Yeah.
And part of that means you got to keep the PR machine rolling.
We know entertainers whose talent is fine, good, maybe, but somehow they're just always in the tabloids.
Kendrick can drop an album whenever he wants and then become the talk of the town.
There are other people that need to constantly be the talk of the town because they can't necessarily go back to the album or to the art to do it.
Now, I guess the pushback that he would have on that is like, I just have a number one fucking song.
Like the music is there.
And then a lot of people thought that he got Eminem on that in the battle.
Like he didn't do badly.
He didn't do badly.
I also was more so I was like, oh, Eminem didn't really bring it like he normally does as opposed to, yo, Machine Gun Kelly fucking ripped it.
Which, which that's the, if you show up to a fight and you don't fight that good, yeah, I just, he has a number one song.
Again, to me, you can get a number one song just off of being famous.
And I think he's a guy that is, I'm going to drive the tabloids and that will drive the career.
And that could very well be wrong.
But to me, him and Connor having a thing, that's headlines for Connor, which he always thrives on.
And that's headlines for MGK.
It looks like he's defending his girl in a certain way.
It's like, all right, well, this is good for both of them.
I see that.
I can see that point.
I think what's happening right now is that Connor is in like an incredibly sensitive state because the thing that he is identified as for the largest part of his life, I would say the majority of his life is being able to fuck people up.
Yeah.
And he physically can't do it right now.
And I think that that's affecting the rest of his psyche as well.
Like, you ever have a bad show?
Yeah.
And then, right?
And like, there's insecurity that comes with that.
Yeah, yeah, it ruins your whole day.
But you're also like looking to be validated, right?
Like at any point in time, like if somebody messages you and you're like, yo, I just saw this clip.
It was fucking hilarious.
Oh, that feels really good.
Now I'm going to stop thinking these negative thoughts that I have in my head about how I'm bad.
And I'm like, oh, maybe people think that I'm pretty good.
But if anything gets sent out that confirms those negative thoughts that you have in your life.
It's a real problem.
Right?
It's a real problem.
It's a little deeper.
It's deeper.
Because that's what you're feeling.
And then someone just confirmed it.
So imagine you're feeling insecure.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying this did happen, but imagine you're feeling insecure.
And then you ask somebody for a picture.
Right.
And they say no.
It's if he's already feeling insecure, like he's losing his grasp of control in terms of him being an elite fighter, him being the talk of the town in the conversation with MMA.
Yeah.
And now this other celebrity says, I don't want to take a picture with you.
That's your biggest fear.
Are you losing it?
Is it going away?
Or even he just was a little bit like he bumped into him or whatever, something small.
It could not be a picture, but it could be like he kind of bumped him and shoved him off.
And it's like, wait, does this fucking civilian think just because he's taller than me and I'm on one leg, I can't fuck him up?
Is that how far I've fallen in this perception?
Is that how, like, not, is that how much I'm not a fighter to people anymore?
Is this fucking because let's be honest, the people that fuck people up, like the people are real beasts, at least the ones that I've met in my life, are the nicest, kindest individuals.
Nothing to prove.
Nothing.
If you really feel like you could fuck anybody up, you laugh when somebody says something to you.
Someone talks some shit, you're like, all right, buddy.
I've seen a lot of guys who could really destroy, like end people's lives, do this.
All right, buddy, just calm down.
Yeah.
Because they know if it really gets to the shits, it's a rap.
Right.
And I don't think that Connor right now in his state, and understandably so, is at the level to be like, all right, buddy, that's cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Loki, I think it was a Megan Fox thing.
What do you mean?
Like the way that they were interacting, like I've watched this.
Did you see the video of the whole thing?
I only saw the video of the water thing.
Okay, so like him like throwing the water at him and like getting held off.
But then I saw an interview after where they asked Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox what was going on.
And like the whole interview, actually, no, it was before the altercation, but their whole interaction, their whole energy is so bizarre.
So like they're talking to the reporter and they were like, all right, so Megan, like, why'd you wear this?
Why'd you wear that outfit?
And she's like, oh, because daddy said he wanted me naked.
And then they're like, what?
And then Machine Gun Kelly's just standing back, like, yeah.
And then like they're making out on camera.
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Yeah, then she's really going for that.
Yeah, so like they're, they have this weird like daddy complex thing where she's like, yeah, I just do what daddy wants.
Like, that's the whole situation.
Isn't he younger than her?
Yes.
And I think that's I can see Connor being like, oh, I know Megan Fox.
Let me say what's up.
And then she has to like report up to her daddy and then they have a beef.
So that's what I assumed it was.
Interesting.
Because I can't imagine Connor knows or cares who Machine Gun Kelly is, but I think he does care.
I cannot imagine Connor wants a picture of Machine Gun Kelly.
I can see him wanting a picture of Mega Fox.
I could see the Megan Fox thing, even though he was there with wifey.
Yeah, but it's like, let me get a picture of Megan Fox.
And she's an iconic figure.
Like, of course, he's probably seen her in fucking movies for the last decade.
Yeah.
So that she was famous before he was famous.
Yeah, 100%.
And what is she so trash?
She's calling him daddy.
Yeah, and I just dropped her down like a bunch of notches in my head.
But I think what's happening, and I don't, okay, like the most cynical version of me goes, all right, the whole relationship is constructed because you have these two figures that people are kind of interested in.
They're famous enough, but when their powers combined, all of a sudden it's really interesting, right?
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They're interesting people to look at.
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Megan is absolutely stunning.
Like, she's one of the most beautiful celebs out there.
She looks like a pin-up girl.
Like, she looked like she's tattooed on Navy people's arm back in the day, like World War II tattoos.
Like, stunning, right?
And the Machine Gun Kelly is an interesting thing to look at.
Yeah, he's wearing the fucking rhinestones on his face.
Yeah.
Like, so now you combine them, and it's just you're multiplying, right?
Yeah, I'll stare at them.
Boom.
He's also tall.
I think he's like 6'5.
Yeah, big kid, right?
So, so now all of a sudden, like, you know, blogs are picking it up, and everybody loves a relationship, right?
They're kind of interesting.
And I think what happens is the most cynical version is like they plan this, like, they've planned past relationships of famous people, and then they just are leaning into the things that work.
Ooh, we're going to do the Angelina Jolie, what was the other guy's name?
Billy Bob Thorpe.
Billy Bob thing, where we're like super sexual and like into it.
Like a lot of the posts on Instagram are like, oh my God, what happened on this table this weekend's got to be, you know, it can't be shared or whatever like that.
It's like, it's this oversharing of the sexualization of the relationship.
And it almost seems like, I see what you're doing here.
Now, the most cynical version is the whole thing is contrived and orchestrated and put together.
The more realistic take is they like each other.
They started dating.
The tabloids loved it and they realized they were getting way more pressed for their relationship maybe than the other things going on in their lives.
Her movies, his music, et cetera.
So they're like, this is the movie.
This is the music.
This is the clout.
Let's lean into this thing.
And we get mutual benefit.
Megan Fox get looked at as the hot girl again.
She's in her 30s, has had kids.
People always thought she was hot, but maybe she wasn't the hot girl.
You forgot about her.
Yeah, maybe there was like other girls.
There were also Margot Robbie's coming in looking pretty hot.
I'm not being a little bit of a girl.
The hot girl is there's always another hot girl coming.
Boom.
But now everybody's talking about her and you don't think that her manager and them got the Google analytics and they're like, yo, people are searching your name 10,000 times more when you and him are making out in public.
So, and then they're doing the same with him.
They're going, yo, people are searching your name 10,000 times more when you guys wear something crazy and you're homosexual.
Boom.
It kind of like reminds us of her and it validates him.
Yeah, it's like when everybody thought that Tom Cruise was gay and all of a sudden he got married twice.
Yeah.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, my man got married and then married again.
He was like, I am not gay.
Dr. Umar, bro.
Dr. Umar on that ass, right?
Like, the dude was with the redhead, Nicole Kidman.
Then Penelope Cruz took down two baddies.
Right.
Right.
And they were like, ah, he's not gay.
He's just weird.
And then he was like, I'm cool with that.
As long as you don't call me weird, I can still be the leading man if I'm weird.
I still think he's gay.
I still do.
You know what I mean?
But enough of the Midwest motherfuckers were like, all right, you could still do Mission Impossible.
I'll keep watching.
Mark brought up a point about, this is an MGK point, but Mark brought up something, and I think it was an interesting question he asked you, Al.
And I didn't get an answer: is how do you feel about white rappers who transition into rock?
Was that what you asked?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I always think it's a little bit like it looks a little bit like you just kind of used rap and black people to elevate yourself and then you transition to some more mainstream.
Sometimes it depends how they do it.
So like Post Malone, for example, he was a little like a little sketchy with White Ibison, Corn Rose.
Yeah.
White Ibison.
Rapper on basketball.
Phantom doing donuts and shit like that.
And then quickly switched up and showed kind of who he really is.
But like, if you, what was that other guy?
The guy also from, I think, Texas with like big teeth and shit like that.
Oh, wow.
No, Another weird looking dude.
Oh, Bubba Sparks, not even him.
This is fucking odd.
Is that a new guy?
Riff Raff.
Oh, Riff.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, that is somebody.
Like, if you switched over to like country or whatever, I'd be like, oh, yeah, you would just use this for me.
You just use the culture just to get you on, and then you switched up because it looks so performative.
So it kind of defends depends how you do it.
We were talking about this with Derek Poston.
Sorry, I was thinking, I kind of thought that about MGK a little bit.
I was like, oh, you used it, and then you became.
It's the Kid Rock shit.
I felt that about Kid Rock.
Is you were like this rap rock guy, and now you're like this kind of alt-right type like country motherfucker.
And it's like, bruh, Kid Rocky.
Kid Rock, yeah.
That's what you're doing.
And then I don't get this.
I don't think MGK is by any stretch going to go alt-right.
But I get a similar, like, you just kind of use this and then transition into, no, now you're a rock star.
But I think people can have different genres of music inside them.
Like, there are rappers that change their shit up and then they start singing a little bit more.
And like, there are RB stars that start like rapping.
And then there are like fucking rock musicians that go into fucking country, like Darius Rucker and shit.
If you want to get into music that hasn't, that you're not stepping on black people to get there, like there's no music.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like all music is pioneered by black people.
And so even if he does rock, it's still black music.
So he's still fucking with the same genre.
Yeah.
I it just feels a little bit more.
I understand what you're saying.
You're looking at the most cynical version of it.
Yeah.
There is also cynical about him because he also almost fought Andrew at the VMAs.
Charlemagne.
Charlemagne.
Of course.
That's my guy.
But yeah, man, it's like, yeah, the VMAs are a hot one for him.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it's interesting.
We were having this conversation with Derek Poston, who's been opening up on Infamous Tour because Akash doesn't like us and has more important things to do.
So, but no, no, Derek.
Derek is fucking great.
And we were having this conversation about white rappers.
And it was like what you need to do to be a white rapper.
And you either need to be funny, like actually hilarious, funny.
Jack Harlow.
Jack Harlow or an Eminem or troubled, severely troubled.
Eminem.
Right.
And there's probably other white rappers that are like Mac Miller was like troubled.
There was something going on.
And Lil Zan was like, that was his whole ego.
Like that was his whole essence.
That he was just like.
He's just sad, troubled, confused.
And we were, and then, and I was asking Derek and Al, I think you were there too, right?
And it was just like, what is that?
And I think Derek was just saying, it's like, well, yeah, like funny always wins.
Like, he's just funny.
And then if you're troubled, it's almost like, he's too fucked up to let him know he's stealing the black shit.
He's about to kill himself anyway.
Don't force him over there.
Is there something?
Yeah.
There's like a little empathy for people really going through it.
Yeah.
So I thought that was interesting.
And if you're in the middle ground, like Post Malone was in the middle, he's like, I just want to have fun and do music.
And he was like, uh-uh-uh.
Black people are like, no, like, you either going to make us laugh or you're going to almost kill yourself if you're going to do this hip-hop shit.
And he was like, I am a rock musician.
Immediately.
And that is the fun genre.
Yeah.
That's the genre you get to just fucking party and shit.
Just do the drum.
And Post looks a little troubled.
Say what?
He looks a little troubled.
He looks it, but he's jovial.
He smiles.
Funny with a buddy.
He's like a great guy.
Seems like a fun hang.
Yeah.
I've heard stories of him just like drinking, playing beer pong and shit.
Yeah.
It just seems like a hang.
I don't know.
It was so funny, like, just to go back to the Jack Harlow thing.
Like, did you see Jack Harlow approach?
God, I sound like such a fucking teenager.
Jack Harlow approached Sweetie.
This is back in the BET Awards, maybe, or something like that.
So he walks up to Sweetie and introduces himself.
And he goes, he goes, How you doing?
I'm Jack or something like that.
Like, looks her up and down.
How you doing?
I'm Jack, right?
Yesterday at the VMAs, he's walking the red carpet and he sees Lil Nas X.
And he walks up to Lil Nas X and does the same thing.
looks little nas X up and down and Lil Nas X goes, Jack, don't do anything sus.
The gay dude got to tell the straight dude not to do sus shit.
I'm like, oh, that's fire, bro.
The guy's funny.
Funny wins?
Funny wins, man.
Yeah, now he gets it.
There's a couple fights over the weekend.
Did you guys see?
I didn't watch the fights.
I saw highlights though.
Yeah, that's all you needed.
Yeah.
This one was the least.
I had never been less interested in a trailer fight.
Usually they're good at spectacle and like having this kind of like, I have to watch this, whatever it is.
And this time I was like, nah.
There wasn't someone to pull you in.
No, and Holyfield apparently was a last second fill-in, too.
It was supposed to be Oscar versus Vitor Belfort.
And I think Oscar would have pulled some casuals in.
Yes.
I don't know if it does what Jake Paul does or something like that or even like Holyfields or whatever, but not Holyfield, Mike Tyson and Roy Jones.
But I think Oscar's a big enough name.
You're like, nah, let's see if Oscar still got it.
Right.
And but what was interesting was Anderson Silva fought.
Yeah.
And he fought Tito Ortiz.
And he knocked out Tito Ortiz.
And it almost looked like scripted the way that he knocked him out.
But the way that Tito went down, it seemed very legit.
Like he seemed like truly concussed.
Did you guys see the?
I did.
I didn't see the knocker.
No, I did.
But it sets up a really interesting fight.
I think Anderson Silva versus Jake Paul.
He thinks so.
I'll tell you why.
He wants it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They all do.
I'll tell you why, though.
Anderson's, I think Jake Paul is smart to continue to fight MMA guys.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because it enrages the MMA community and he needs animosity for the interests.
Yeah.
He has to do the Mayweather thing where people are paying to see the guy lose.
Yeah.
Right?
I think that he'll eventually get more and more fans that want to see him win and knock these people out.
But a lot of people are going to watch these fights because they want to see him get his ass kicked.
Yeah.
And Anderson, when he was the best fighter in the fucking world, I think beats anybody.
But now he's, what, 48 or something?
46?
He's up there.
He's up there, but he's a nice fucking boxer.
He just beat Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
Okay.
Like who was who was a pretty legit boxer in his day.
So I think what Jake needs to do is continue picking away at MMA guys.
And Anderson has enough legacy.
Anderson has enough popularity.
Anderson has enough support in the MMA community, but he also has the boxing pedigree where people are like, okay, this is going to be the MMA guy to take out Jake.
And this way he can continue to drive the wedge with the UFC.
He gets to talk all the shit he wants about Dana White and fighter pay and all that other stuff.
I'm going to give Anderson Silva his biggest payday ever, just like I gave Tyron his biggest payday.
Really enrage the MMA community, which is the strongest community in fight sports right now.
Get them all to support Anderson Silver.
Every one of those fighters that came up watching Anderson Silva, thinking he was the greatest fighter that's ever existed.
There was a time where I think he had fucking won like 10 fights in a row.
So he was just unbelievable in his heyday.
I think that is the next fight to make for Jake.
And similar height and weight.
They are similar height and weight.
That's the thing.
Now we're getting into, it's not like he's taking advantage of like a small guy.
That masker's small guy.
Tyron Woodley, smaller than Jake.
But Anderson Silver, 6'2 ⁇ , 185.
Now, Jake probably walks around over two.
Anderson will fuck him up.
And that's what we need people to think.
I was just watching the highlight of how he caught him.
Great head movement.
Just came around counter hook.
Like, that was impressive.
And comfortable.
Yeah.
It looks like more boxing than an MMA fighter.
Way more.
That was impressive.
Yeah.
Really comfortable in the pocket, which I think could be dangerous for Jake because he's able to take advantage of MMA guys not being comfortable in the pocket.
Because if it's an MMA fight, you only need some part of the fist to touch your head and you're going down.
So there isn't a lot of that bobbin weaving like we were seeing in there.
Whereas boxing, it's like you got your gloves kind of covering up.
You can move around.
I'm just saying that to me, I think, Jake, fuck boxers.
Don't fight Tommy Fury.
Don't fight any of the boxers.
Fight MMA guys with big enough names, pedigrees, and resumes where the whole MMA community is behind them and let that drive the fuck out of it.
I don't think he wants Anderson Silva, though.
I agree.
It's a tough fight.
That's a tough fight.
Fuck hip hop.
You had to go rounds with Tyron Woodley, who's, you know, he's a decent striker, but like not amazing.
Yeah.
Anderson Silva, I think, could, but he's older.
The guy's 48.
Is he 48?
46, according to this.
46.
To me, he looked old, and that's where I was like, I don't know, man.
I don't know if he's going to hold up.
He just looked old.
And the punch is great, but also who is he fighting?
Tito Ortiz.
He's not a boxer, is he?
He was an MMA guy.
He was an MMA guy also, right?
Yeah.
I know, to me, I don't know shit.
It seemed like a lateral move in the sense that like, all right, you fought one MMA guy who can kind of fight.
This one's a better striker, but also much older.
And it seemed like a lateral move in that sense.
The challenge, I think, needs to seem a little bit bigger for me to seem interested.
And maybe Anderson Silver will do it.
Maybe you guys will convince me by the time the fight rolls around, I'll buy it again.
I think if you were a bigger MMA fan.
Yeah, that's the thing is he's MMA fan.
I was looking at the fucking story as I was researching and these fans were like, this is going to be the guy to knock out Jake.
And it's like every single fight, this guy, I can't wait till this guy knocks out Jake.
Yeah.
They are just dying.
And they're so sure every next guy that gets brought up is going to knock out Jake Paul.
And they want it to happen so badly.
And to your point, that's what's going to make money.
Monetize that feeling.
Got it.
Yeah.
You can't.
People can't.
People aren't going to buy a fight.
They're kind of interested in seeing the outcome of.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You want to see a motherfucker get knocked out of your mind.
Yeah.
You have to emotionally invest it for 50 bucks.
That's not nothing.
Yes, How good is Anderson Silva's English?
He pretended to not speak English back in the day.
Right.
So he wouldn't have to do the shit talk with like Chael Sunnin, but he's actually, yeah, he can speak English.
He's good.
Could he shit talk with Jake to build a fight?
So he's an interesting one because...
He's never really been a shit talker.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, but he also trolls big time.
So he trolls in the fight, but I think before he's capable of doing it as well.
So like, yeah, I don't know.
Again, you want him to be able to help build the hype for the fight.
He's going to have more genuine interest than Tyron, but Tyron, the week of the fight, really built up.
I wasn't interested until the week of.
Earned his money.
Yep.
He earned his money.
He murdered it.
So what is Anderson going to do to build it up, right?
He's not going to tap into any like racial division, right?
Because while he's a black dude, he's a black dude from Brazil.
They have their own kind of like colorism thing going on.
So that's not going to be something that maybe he's not going to go all Black Lives Matter on Jake Paul or all, why are you trying to be hip-hop or something like that?
His issues are completely detached from that.
So this is going to be like there's going to be, he's going to have to really pretend to go, I want to beat him for the MMA community.
So you put respect on strikers from that.
And I don't even know if he feels that.
I think he's just like, I'm 46.
I'm trying to make a few million before I finish this fighting shit.
And then also, how big is that?
Is that like audience you're tapping into versus someone else that can just tap into, yo, I want to smash you like on some racial shit, like on some other thing?
I think his name and me.
The name is big.
Yeah, maybe me because I was all head UFC.
Right.
Like he was the biggest.
Yeah.
When you were doing, probably when you were doing martial arts.
Yes.
Yeah.
He was the greatest martial artist guy that ever lived at that time.
He could do everything.
He can strike.
He can kill you on the ground.
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The defense was fucking phenomenal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm just going to fight out.
I think from Jake's perspective, he's like, all right, he's a good fighter.
He's got hands.
He's like a champion.
It's risky and he might not bring much.
And he's not going to bring a ton.
Like, let me fight a fucking another basketball.
Tomato can.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, crazy thing.
And I'll give this up to you.
Isn't this the fucking bout that Trump was announcing?
Yes.
The Holy Field one.
But I mean, this is in the same way.
No one's talking about that shit.
No one's talking about it.
Like, Jake Paul has a bigger troll than the ex-president.
Why are you giving it up to me?
What did I say?
No, just because you said, like, Jake Paul's the biggest draw.
Oh, yeah.
That's great.
I had this thought, too.
That's crazy.
Jake Paul might be saving boxing.
Yeah.
Because not even that, just, I think MMA, as it got more and more popular, they looked at boxing.
It was like, it's this thing.
We can all do it.
Jake Paul is proving you can take elite MMA, not necessarily strikers, but elite MMA fighters, put them in a boxing ring, and then a Disney star who's been training at boxing for three years can kick the shit out of them.
Yeah, I think maybe what we were doing with Brendan that I was saying that or something like that.
Oh, okay.
But you're 100% right.
Anderson was like, I have to, I'm taking the art of boxing so seriously.
Like, they're realizing how different it is.
It's not like, oh, we do everything.
I kick your ass in a boxing match.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think Connor and Floyd, we all knew Floyd is going to win, but some people thought Connor would.
And now we're like, yo, it's not even the best in the world.
It's not even the best ever.
It's a fucking Disney star who puts out YouTube videos, but it's trained for three years can beat an MMA guy.
Elite MMA fighter.
Exactly.
So we've been training for months.
When you say you're saving boxing, it's not like you're bringing attention to boxing.
It's you're putting respect for skill.
Yeah, you're reestablishing respect for the sport that was kind of starting to get forgotten as like a second tier.
UFC, they do everything.
These guys can box.
Who gives a fuck?
Yeah.
Now I was like, nah, boxing.
Boxing is a different animal.
It's not something that's just part of the MMA package.
It is its own skill.
And if you do not train it by itself when fighting somebody within that discipline, you will lose.
Even if they have far less fight experience than you, like way less.
It doesn't even matter.
It is its own specific skill.
It's kind of pretty cool.
It just needs to have like the infrastructure and personalities that the UFC does.
And they just do that so fucking brilliantly.
Yeah.
It's really amazing.
Really amazing.
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All right.
Just to put a button on this fighter combo, I saw an interesting thing.
This is older, but Khabib was on Mike Tyson's podcast.
Oh, yeah.
And that was great.
It was really interesting because the conversation about like shit talk to promote a fight came up.
And who was the other guy on the Triple Champ?
What's the fuck is his name?
Is the other guy on the Mike Tyson podcast?
I only know the other small guy.
Yeah, I forget his fucking name.
My bad.
I'm sorry.
I forgot your name, bro.
But the triple champ says, you know, because Khabib brings it up and then he goes, the triple champ, but don't you think there's certain things you just can't talk trash about, you know, like religion or someone's mother?
And then Mike just takes a second.
He goes, man, I just know in this game, anything goes.
And I thought it was really interesting.
I thought it was really interesting.
Just make in this game, anything goes.
Anything fucking goes.
Like, there aren't rules.
You know, like.
It makes sense to me because he.
He said he was going to eat people's children.
Yeah.
He also, I mean, the guy swindled him, but he was managed by Don King, King promoter.
Anything goes.
Anything goes.
So I think he's also on a certain end when he says anything goes, he's like, it's a dirty fucking game on every end.
So whatever is said, it's all shit.
But it makes sense that coming up under one of the greatest promoters of all time, you're like, yeah, anything goes.
This guy can make anything go.
It'd be nice if people didn't talk about your mom.
It'd be nice if people didn't talk about your religion.
But the idea that these things are not allowed, it's like people die in the ring, dude.
Like you're going in there and a guy, he's not trying to kill you, but if that's what happens, he's okay with that.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, if you punch a guy in the face enough and then they end up dying, like, you're not shocked at that.
If you're a boxer and MMA fighter, you know that this has happened many times.
As he said, I've had friends that die in there.
That's it.
That's what it is.
So, if that's what I'm going in thinking, I'm not really worried about talking shit about your religion or your mom.
Yeah.
It's fucked up.
Yes.
Are there things that are like messed up?
Yes.
But is there this rule in fight sports that you can't?
We all know that doesn't exist.
If anything, I would rather you do it to help me kick it into an extra gear so I can win this fight.
Because I'm going to take every fucking inch I could get when we're both fighting essentially for our lives.
That's the thing.
Like, there's certain people.
Like, I get more motivated by talking shit because now I got to back up the shit talk.
Yeah.
So sometimes I'll talk shit just so I put the pressure on myself to deliver.
Right.
You know, because if I don't talk shit, it's like, hey, yeah, everybody good.
We're all good friends.
Oh, my friend won, but he's a good guy.
Fuck that guy.
That guy hates me.
I want you to say something to me to let me know that you hate me so that I could wake up at 6 a.m. every single day and be training for the menu.
But I'm an ICO.
You gave me the excuse.
When I saw Connor say he was going to promote Dustin's hot sauce, I was like, oh, it's over.
Like, Connor doesn't have a chance.
You're in business with this guy.
You don't want to take this guy's head off.
You want to promote his hot sauce.
Yeah.
Like, it's like that saying we always say on the podcast, like, two countries that have a McDonald's have never gone to war since they walked out of the McDonald's.
So it's like, once you guys have like mutual assured income or benefit or business, you're not going extra on that man.
No.
You know what I mean?
And it might not even be conscious.
Like when you're in that dark, like fucking pain cave and you're like, do I push through and try to fucking kill this guy?
My nose is broken.
I don't feel like it.
Yeah.
Or do I just kind of hope for a decision?
And sell this hot sauce.
Yeah.
So talk all the shit.
Yes.
Help me fight.
Use that term.
Help me fight through that pain cave.
Yeah.
Let me get through this.
Talk all.
I want you to.
I want to remember when you said my wife is a towel.
I want to remember this.
So now let's fucking go.
Yeah.
And when I win, I win.
Yeah.
Now that is true.
Also, a guy's name was Henry Cejudo.
Henry Cejudo.
Yeah.
Fuck.
My bad, Henry.
Sorry about that.
You're a fucking beast.
Yo, let's talk some more of the portes.
We got some, well, we got some, we got some football and then we got some tennis.
You said you want to talk about the tennis.
I know you're a big tennis fan.
I'm not a big tennis fan.
You are.
I wish I was.
If you're a man that follows tennis at all, you're a big then.
Tennis is basically baseball to me.
Yeah.
I think if you are a fan of it's almost volleyball.
It is volleyball.
There's a net.
It's volleyball.
It's nowhere as boring as baseball.
It's not as boring, but it is a girl sport.
It's for both.
These people are actual athletes.
Like tennis is for women.
These people are actual, like they're actually playing a sport.
Where baseball, you stand there, you run everybody.
They're not really athletes.
They're just like rich people.
And then finally, two poor people join the sport and they just dominated for the last fucking 20 years.
Actually, no, one of them wasn't poor.
Only one of them might have been poor.
Maybe Venus and Serena were related.
I'm talking about men's sense.
I'm talking about men's sense.
I don't, I'm talking about women's.
One was four.
Women's is the only one that's interesting.
No, dude.
I'm telling you, if you are a fan of greatness, this is the coolest time in maybe any sport ever.
The three greatest of all time are playing right now.
In any sport, if that was happening, you'd be like, you have to appreciate this.
I'm not a big fan of tennis right now, but this is the best time to watch.
No, this is.
Oh, is that what it felt like in the beginning of the podcast?
Is this what it felt like?
No, no, no, no, because this is actually interesting.
I'm not saying the most boring shit.
No, because this is actually interesting.
So why are you talking about basketball?
Why are tennis tennis?
Because if you're watching.
It's actually interesting.
It's far less impressive than a rhinoceros.
Is it getting a fucking yellow ball over a net?
Yeah, yeah, but the three greatest of all time are doing it right now at the same time.
Oh, oh, my.
If you lose a tennis ball, if you lose a rhino match, if you lose a rhino match, you're dead.
Said he's taking baby cubs.
Ain't nothing gonna happen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, go back to your little fall.
So the three greatest of all time are playing at the same time.
If you're watching like all the shit, we're like, oh, I would love to see.
How great are they?
I would love to see Montana and Brady, you know, lead football.
How great are they?
Like, give me an example.
How great are they?
So, you have tournaments like championships, basically?
Yeah.
The greatest of all time before had 14.
Okay.
There are now three guys with 20 each.
So, neither of them is that great.
No, they're the three greatest of all time.
Yeah, but they're just like no one's dominant.
Like, you're basically looking at the least dominant time in tennis.
You're looking at the most dominant time.
It's the least dominant three people all dominating the same.
You got to tie.
You've got three fucking bronze medals.
128 people enter everyone's bronze medalists.
128 people enter every tournament.
One of the same three has won pretty much every time for the last 18 years.
Yeah, so nobody's dominant.
Yeah.
The most dominant time in the history of any sport is right now.
How do you define elite players?
One person tying all the time?
No, if there's three players, well, they're not tying.
Dominant tie.
Three people are tie.
They're 20.
You have to go back and forth.
That's like having five championships and five championships.
They're not tying in the NBA finals.
Neither of those teams are dominant.
So the Celtics weren't dominant.
The Lakers weren't dominant.
If they did other teams, when the Bulls didn't row, they were dominant.
But if you're going back and forth with another team, neither is dominant.
This is the least dominant time in history.
They're all having dominant runs.
The least dominant time in history of tennis.
But keep on the time.
I know why you need to do this.
Oh, yeah.
I know why.
But it's the most dominant time.
Keep it not just keeping it.
Keep doing it.
Keep doing this.
I'm doing this just for comedic value.
I would get in on this because it is kind of exciting.
Yeah.
But I have to cut your legs.
Most dominant time in the history of tennis.
Yeah, yeah.
Most dominant time of men who wear like wrist guards.
Yes, absolutely.
Yeah, they wear wrist guards.
It's sweaty.
And it's the greatest of all time wrist guard wedding being out here.
So a sweat in the eye.
That's difficult, bro.
Yeah, you gotta do it right.
You're sweating the eye.
And then you gotta play.
You gotta see a wall like snow.
You gotta slide on your sneakers.
That shit is stealing.
You gotta go.
You know how much effort you gotta do to grunt?
Son.
That's mad efforts.
That is true.
They get so good.
And you got three guys that are grunting.
Andrew Grunts when he sits down.
I'm 37.
I'm 37.
Oh, my God.
Jokovich's surf is 130 miles per hour.
I think he could trap a rhino with his surf.
There's your answer.
Jokovich could kill a rhino with a surf.
No, he couldn't.
Absolutely.
Oh, God.
Couldn't?
Yeah.
No, he's fucking.
200%.
100% out of dinner.
Rhinos are made out of tennis.
They steal.
They're made out of steel, bro.
They're made out of dinosaur.
Rhinos are made out of dinosaurs.
He could kill a Velociraptor with a surf.
There's no way he could.
With its accuracy, right in the eyeball.
Son, I'll be honest with you.
I could take his serve in my chest.
A tennis ball would not hurt me.
I think you should probably.
He's being 100% serious.
Tennis ball to the chest wouldn't hurt me.
We may have a gun that can shoot a tennis ball at the speed of a tiny shot.
A gun is different.
No, no, no.
The t-shirt gun is a little bit different.
130 miles from a tennis racket is different than 130 miles from a gun.
What do you mean?
It's like trans fighters.
It's the same transfer.
It's the same as a tennis ball.
No, no.
Ball density.
Ball density.
It's a ball density.
The ball density is far greater when you're hitting off a lash.
I think we should get this nice.
I think we should get this button.
I think we should keep going.
I think we should get the gun.
Let's get the gun.
Let's get the gun.
Listen, I don't believe in that.
Let's get the gun.
It doesn't have the sauce in it.
It doesn't have the sauce.
Does it not?
What a shame.
What a shame.
And we can't buy it because you can't put it on planes.
Anyway, go, go, go.
We'll do it at one of the shows.
It'll be great.
Great celebration.
Keep on going.
Talk about the least dominant time in tennis in history.
So the most dominant time in the history of any sport is right now.
Do you love it because it's just white people?
Is it you just love watching white athleticism?
I do enjoy white.
I do enjoy white excellence.
There's not enough of it in sports.
I do personally like to see them win.
I do.
Okay, okay.
Absolutely.
I love the women.
Roger Federer.
What is it?
Novak Djokovic.
Novak Djokovic.
Roger Federer.
Rafael Nadal.
What?
Raphael Nadal.
Raphael Nadal.
Nadal.
You watch F1, so you know all about Europeans.
I love Formula One.
Shouts to Daniel Ricardo winning Monza.
Shouts to Team McLaren.
You know what I mean?
That's all I'm talking about.
Lando Norris.
I love y'all, man.
Keep killing it.
Okay, go.
As a guy who loves Europeans, you should like tennis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No.
He likes Romans.
He likes Romans.
Yeah, I mean, Djokovic isn't from Europe, dude.
And, like, the crazy thing?
No, he's not from Europe.
The crazy thing, the three people that are so dominant, all three of them lost.
Yeah, they lost.
Yeah, yeah.
So, what is your argument about domination?
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So, none of them were dominant enough to win the fucking tournament?
They're all in this tournament and got beat.
They got your ass.
He was looking at you so crazy.
Yeah, even the girls, right?
Didn't some like fucking Filipino girl for like great brain?
I've never watched them in tennis.
That story's actually.
Yeah, she was like number seven.
Anybody can win in this college football.
150th.
Why don't you call it college football?
Tennis is a coin flip.
No, it's tennis is a brilliant job.
Tennis a coin flip between three people.
Dude, it's poker.
Yeah, poker is a fucking, it takes massive skills.
No, it's not a coin flip between three people because poker, you know.
All three of them lost.
Yeah.
All three of them lost, right?
Only one of them played in this tournament.
They couldn't even qualify.
I thought you just said all three were in the tournament.
They couldn't even qualify.
Two were injured.
What injury could you possibly get just doing that?
Tennis elbow?
That's all.
It's a fucking clinical diagnosis.
Tennis elbow.
Elbows hurts from swatting.
You swat for a living, dog.
If you killed a fly, you can play tennis.
100%, dude.
You watch people drive.
You watch people drive.
How do you watch the business?
That's only impressive to a New Yorker.
How do you watch football and then you watch this?
This was so much more impressive than any football game.
Okay, so go back to your unimpressive.
Outside of Tom Brady, no football player impresses me as much as what's happening in tennis right now.
Okay, explain it.
I just did.
That was it?
Yeah.
That's an impressive thing.
If you won't, one lost, and then some random fucking game.
So this period, from 2003 until now, there have been 72 majors.
These three have won 60 of them.
Everybody else is just in there.
They come, they go.
One guy will get one here.
Yesterday, a guy got one.
I don't know if he's going to be good for that long.
He could be.
But the same three people for the past 18 years have dominated this sport.
And then they go back and forth all the time on who's going to get the record for the most championships ever.
And it's just a fucking incredible thing to watch.
And it's almost over.
Two of the guys are dumb old.
So it's almost over.
And you should just enjoy.
If you watch greatness and appreciate greatness, just watch tennis right now and enjoy it.
Who's great?
Raphael Nadal.
But which one of them is great?
All three are the greatest of all time.
Are you sure that athletes haven't found real sports and then this is just what's left?
And they're like, these are like the mediocre guys that are all fighting for me.
Could you beat Nadal?
If I could beat him, not on clay, he's good on clay, but I could beat him on tennis.
I don't believe in playing on clay.
Like, why are we switching the bottoms up?
Like, why don't you front the money and then put the fucking grass?
No, it's like a racetrack.
I could beat him at Wimbledon.
You could not beat him at Wimbledon.
I could beat him at Wimbledon.
Nimbledon.
No chance.
I could beat him at Wimbledon.
I could beat him at Winblimbled.
He's got Wimbledon.
He's a one at Wimbledon.
He has?
Yeah, he beat Roger Federer at Wimbledon.
Yeah, but Roger Feddere is 75 years old.
He's from Swiss.
Nah, Roger Feddere in his prime.
Roger Feddere's a Swiss cuck.
He's a Swiss cuck.
I don't have a problem.
Anytime he feels a little bit of adversity, he just folds.
You bend that man right over.
That's what I would say.
That's not true.
He's a Swiss fuck.
No, he's not a Swiss fuck.
He's a Swiss fuck.
Or a Swiss cuck.
He's a Swiss cuck.
He's a Swiss fuck.
What about Nadal?
Say what?
Nadal.
He's a Spanish cuck.
What do you think?
Yeah, but he's left-handed.
Just hit it to his other hand.
Dude, tennis.
This is so easy.
Nadal's backhand?
Hit it to his other hand.
No, you know what?
You know how fast he is?
He just runs around the backhand, makes it a forehand.
Not when I hit it to him.
He doesn't have a backhand.
I just hit it to his backhand.
Done.
Game over.
This is light work.
Why don't they just try to hit him with the serve and then debilitate them like a rhino?
That's a good idea.
Why don't they just do that?
Why would they do that?
It's so powerful.
Exactly.
They will kill rhinocera, all three of them, with their bare hands.
With their bare hands.
You can't do it.
With their bare hands.
Can't do it.
Raphael Nadal faster than a tiger.
Not even close.
He would have just picked up the Cubs and just ran.
And just ran.
He would have just outrun the mother just because.
I've met the guy.
And then after the mother was tired, he'd pick her up, put her on the boat, too.
I've met him.
Where?
In Barcelona.
Yeah?
Sword a guy in my life when I was living there.
Really?
What did you say to him?
You walked up to him and said, What?
No, he was a Russian.
Did he try to get a picture with you?
And you're like, nah.
I didn't.
I didn't offer him a picture.
He wasn't as big.
Left arm massive, right arm noticeably smaller.
Jerking off a little bit.
He was comfortable.
Maybe jerking off.
Maybe that.
That's your god off.
He will kill a tiger right now.
Tell us about this great time in Tennessee.
I just did.
Yeah, but where was the story?
Yeah.
What are you trying to do?
Like, what happened?
This video is interesting.
The Russian guy beat everyone.
Yeah, this Russian kid.
Medvedev.
This Russian kid just fucking got his ass kicked twice in the final, came, and then you just watched.
I've never seen somebody.
You should see.
I've never seen somebody that looks less athletic.
He looks like he invented Ethereum.
Medvedev?
Medvedev.
It's remarkable.
It's remarkable.
How the fuck is that an athlete?
And he moves like a fucking gazelle.
It's not crazy.
He doesn't move like a gazelle.
Crazy.
So, women, gazelles are impressive then, the way they move.
Yeah.
Okay.
And if you caught them and brought them back to Rome, that would be pretty cool or no.
That would be pretty cool.
But if you told a story about kidnapping cubs, that sucks.
Just making sure we're on the same page.
Let's look at this guy right here.
This does not look like an athlete.
He doesn't look like an athlete.
That's Robbie Slovak.
Oh, my God.
Robbie Slovak won the U.S. Open.
That's not Mad Vedev.
Robbie Slovak is athletic.
He is astounding.
And this guy is number two in the world.
Yeah.
So he's better than the other two dominant guys.
Come on.
Like, why are we lying?
But that don't have to do with majors.
Majors is what matters at the end of the day.
It's like being a one seed in the regular season.
Yeah.
Nah.
That's exactly.
I actually summed it up perfectly, and you just said nah, because you had no idea.
Yeah, I did.
I did it.
It was good.
It was actually a perfect response.
Okay.
Anything else?
I feel like I covered it pretty well.
I will say the chick that won the U.S. Open is unbelievable.
So she went in 18 years old.
She was 150th, beat everyone in the qualifiers, didn't drop a set, beat everyone in the whole tournament, didn't drop a set.
At 18, was the youngest woman to win the U.S. Open, came out on top champion.
And it was the youngest championship of all time.
And the girl that she was playing was also ranked 76th or something like that.
This was like the underdog tournament.
Well, once Osaka pulled out and then Serena's kind of old and kind of done, I really think the women's field is just anybody can win at this point.
Wait, how old is she?
She's 18.
Yeah.
Okay, let's talk about a real sport.
Football is back.
Yeah.
Okay.
Did you watch any football this weekend?
Or am I going to have to talk us through this?
You got to talk us through this, but I watched a little bit of the final game.
The last Rams game?
Yeah, I watched a little bit of the Rams.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just a little bit of it.
The final game.
Yeah, yeah.
I could give a fuck.
I was like, whatever the last game was, I put that shit on.
I was like, all right, I got to go out and get someone to eat.
But I put it on.
It was fine.
It's week one.
It's too early to really say anything crazy, but I think the Saints could be good.
And it's kind of a testament to the coach of the Saints because Jameis Winston is the quarterback.
You guys remember Jameis Winston?
He stole the grabbers.
He was a bum at Tampa Bay.
And now he went to.
FSU legend, though.
FSU legend, but then was a bum for the Bucs.
I mean, he would throw like 30 touchdowns, but then have like 30 interceptions.
Crazy.
His teammates didn't really respect him.
But then he went to New Orleans, studied under Drew Brees for a year, and then his first start, he won the starting job, five touchdowns.
Yeah, but on 150 yards.
Five touchdowns is five touchdowns.
Is it?
Yeah.
It's not, I guess it's not, let me not say it's as impressive as 350 yards.
Let the running back take you down the field and then you throw your little five-yard touchdown.
That kind of is all they need.
If you're the Saints who have a fucking incredible defense, you just need to not.
If you're Jameis Winston and your problem has always been throwing way too many picks, if you're throwing five touchdowns and you don't have interceptions, that's basically let him throw less.
And they dominated the Packers, who, again, week one, anything can change.
But the Packers were coming in as like, oh, they're probably going to make it to the Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they just fucking destroyed them.
Yeah, why did the Packers suck so much?
Was Aaron Rodgers?
Aaron Rodgers, they just looked like they got to him.
Like he didn't have protection.
And that's the main thing.
I don't care what quarterback you are, including Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
If you don't have protection, you're not going to do well.
No quarterback can overcome that.
It doesn't matter how good you are.
Gotcha, it truly does not matter.
And he had two, I think, rookies starting on the line, so he just got destroyed.
But also, I would remind people this, and we're supposed to talk football, but week one last year, the Bucs got destroyed by the Saints.
And then they got destroyed by them again midway through the year.
And then in the playoffs, they beat the Saints.
There's some bitterness of the old Rodgers signing late.
Yeah, Rodgers also demanded a trade, or no, said he would retire if he didn't get traded and then didn't get traded.
He showed up anyway, had a press conference that he just kind of like aired out all his grievances, was real weird.
He's a weird dude.
He's an odd boy.
He's a boy.
He's not a little bit weird.
But again, it's week one.
So we're supposed to talk about it, but there's not much to take from week one.
Any team impressive?
Any rookie impressive?
The Saints impressed me.
The rookies, I'm sure some rookies played well.
The quarterback struggled, I think.
Like the number one overall pick, whose name is Casey right now, plays for Jacksonville.
Trevor Lawrence.
Trevor Lawrence.
He threw a couple nice passes, but he has no line.
He's going to get fucking demolished.
There's an interesting stat that was going around about him.
This was his first regular season loss ever.
Like in high school, he didn't have a regular season loss.
In college, he didn't have a regular season loss.
That's crazy.
Maybe you go back to middle school or Pop Warner, but that's not, I guess, like regular season.
But like sanctioned football games, this is his first regular season loss.
That's crazy.
That's kind of nuts.
Yeah, that's nuts.
Pretty impressive.
And the quarterback who's supposed to be the worst out of all of them, Mac Jones, he looked pretty good.
He's a mobile little white guy.
Interesting.
He can't run for like 50 yards, but he can move within the pocket and get out of trouble.
And he didn't look bad.
They lost.
The Jets guy, everybody says he's going to be good, but they got beat by Sam Darnold, who they got rid of.
Yeah, who they got rid of.
He had a pretty good game against him.
But again, it's week one.
We'll see what happens.
It was fun.
It's just fun to have football back.
Are people over Daniel Jones?
Yeah, yeah.
Daniel Jones is a bum.
People were confused when they picked him in the first place at number six.
Everybody's like, why the fuck are you doing this?
He had a good first year.
This is the weird thing.
When I first started watching football, it took a quarterback like three years usually to get good because they came from such a different system in college.
Now colleges are throwing it all over the place.
So I think a lot of times these guys come in and do great their first and second year, and then the league figures them out, and then they struggle more and more and more.
So it's a little reverse of what it used to be.
Interesting.
Any other game that really stood out to you?
The Cowboys game, Bucks game, obviously the Cowboys lost.
We all knew they would.
It was Tom Brady.
I don't know.
But they looked good.
Yeah, Dak was good.
Fucking incredible.
But you also, this is, if you don't win, it doesn't really matter.
And the Cowboys will do this.
They'll play up to their competition and then down to the competition.
The coolest shit, though, was they drove down the field, kicked a field goal to take the lead with like a minute and a half left.
And then they just showed one shot of Brady.
And he just looked.
He watched the field go through the uprights, nods his head once, puts on his helmet, and then it's like, this is what I do.
Every other quarterback you see in that situation is running the line of scrimmage and doing all these motions.
I literally saw Brady do this once.
He walks, he does this.
It's just like the most calm, like whatever he's signaling is not a fucking frantic thing.
The most calm guy in the pocket.
And then the last, one of the last plays, the coordinator sends him a call, and then he just says no.
He just shakes his head.
Then he sends another call.
He just says no.
And then he sends a call.
You're like, a fucking pitcher.
But he's like, no, I don't like your call.
No quarterback does that in that situation, especially.
Clock is running down.
You're trying to figure it out.
And you just, no.
Usually, when there's less than two minutes, are they taking calls?
If it's like an incomplete pass, maybe.
Yeah, when the clock is stopped, he clocks the ropes.
There'll be a chance to take a call.
If they go out of bounds, but otherwise.
But the clock is running.
It's just on break, right?
And he hits the line.
He just walks so fucking calmly, is so aware of everything.
Like, to watch someone just have mastery of anything is always cool, I think.
And he has complete mastery of football.
Yes.
It's crazy.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, he's a, I mean, it's just crazy to see, man.
He could very well win another ring.
I would love it, dude.
I would love it.
He is probably the greatest athlete of all time to me.
Yeah, it's hard to say.
I think we've said it on the podcast before because we assume athleticism has something to do with running fast, jumping high, but he has none of those qualities.
Nope.
Yet he excels at athletics and probably the hardest position in the hardest sport to excel at consistently.
So he must be the greatest athlete of all time.
Greatest sportsman.
He's the best at sports.
But now we're just creating that caveat because he's not very athletic, which just makes him more impressive.
Magic Johnson was not very athletic, but he was the best fucking athlete in the NBA, or he was the best NBA player, right?
Larry Bird wasn't quicker than anybody.
He wasn't fast through and jumping out of the fucking gym.
He was jogging to his spot, hitting the three, posing the up, great pass.
He's not athletic.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe we got to reconfigure our perception of athleticism.
Yeah, it's like instead of the way he processes actual vision lines or being able to see what you have to see as a quarterback.
I hear what you're saying with sportsmen, right?
Because what you're doing is just like saying his greatness within his sport exceeds other people's greatness within their sports.
But athlete were tied to literally just like genetic fast twitch fibers.
Michael Phelps shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, just, yeah, just, he is it, man.
It's pretty awesome.
Imagine Jordan left the Bulls and then won another ring without Phil.
Can I tell you something about Brady that I think you like?
I was having dinner with Neil last night, Neil Brennan, and he was telling a story.
I think like Seth Myers told him about when Brady did SNL.
So Seth goes to him.
He's like, are you nervous at all?
And Brady looks at him 100% seriously.
He goes, for this?
Wow.
That's a fire response.
He's the golden ghost.
And then Neil says something really funny.
He's like, and why would he?
Literally, an ambulance comes to his job.
Because somebody should end up in the ambulance.
That's so funny.
Right?
Like, it's such a great take.
And it's so true.
And I love how he just like, hey, no, you are like, comedy is important to us.
We love comedy.
But the fact that he could look at it like it's like a clown posse.
Yeah, you guys are just clowns, right?
Like, what are you juggling?
Like, he didn't even know what it is.
Like, in his mind, and I guess in order to dedicate your life to it, it has to be the most important.
Yeah.
In his mind, football is the pinnacle, I assume, right?
Yeah.
That maybe family football is the, that is, there is nothing greater than that.
Yeah.
And you have to have that type of vision in order to dedicate yourself.
So anything outside of it, he doesn't give a flying fuck.
Sure, he'll wear some stupid boots.
Sure, he'll do a commercial for Subway and in the commercial, admit he doesn't even eat bread.
Yeah.
Like, it's unbelievable.
Like, he is so great that just attaching him to a brand that he doesn't use still makes you want to fuck with the brand.
I'll buy Subway.
Are we going to buy sneakers from Oscar Pastori?
You know what I'm saying?
If Oscar Pistols put out a Nike, you're going to buy that shit?
That'll be kind of fire.
I'm going to have to get them for the strength.
I know he took two years off, but Jordan didn't take the Wizards anywhere.
The Bucs are the Wizards.
They had one championship, sure, but like, this isn't always a shitty franchise.
They just are.
They're just fucking losers through and through.
He gets there the first year.
They go from not even making the playoffs to now he won the Super Bowl.
And it was kind of cool to see.
I just think basketball is different.
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It's like one player has more of an impact on the game than one player in football.
That's what you would think.
And that's what makes it more impressive that he takes the Bucs from not even playoffs.
To win the Super Bowl.
Yeah, but they also put a team around him.
It's not like he's the one person who came on.
I think what you're saying makes absolute sense.
And just to make Akash's argument is because one person has so much less of an ability to change the team, if you can, imagine how great you must be.
Yes.
I think that's what he's trying to say.
He is a culture in and of himself.
Yeah, but if he was the one person they brought to the team after the team was trash, I'd give you that.
But what if he's able to make a squad around him?
But what if he's able to make those players that might be a little bit problematic on other teams fall in line?
Oh, yeah.
I'm not saying he's not great, though.
Like, we're posting.
I understand what you're saying.
And I kind of agree with you.
Like, what I saw Jordan do is just different fundamentally than what I've seen Brady do.
But like, I do give it up for Brady does.
I mean, Jordan does things that your body, that your mind is comprehended by doing period.
And I put that in when you say greatest athlete.
That's what you're saying.
That's, I think, athletes.
It's like, that's part of to most people.
And that's what an athlete is.
It's like you're the best at that and you win.
Yeah.
But if you don't do that, you're not an athlete.
If Tom Brady had Cam Newton's athleticism, there'd be no question who the greatest athlete of all time was.
If Tom Brady looked like, I can't believe I'm forgetting.
You can even say Russell Wilson, but I was going to say the guy from the Baltimore Ravens.
Oh, Lamar Jackson.
Lamar Jackson.
If Tom Brady had Lamar Jackson's athleticism, there'd be no question.
Even if he didn't run out of the pocket, but if you just knew that he could at any point in time, Michael Vicks, there'd be no question.
But because he has the athleticism of a fucking substitute teacher, it is so hard for you and me to go, he's the greatest athlete.
It's like something else is going on here.
And they didn't add crazy pieces around him when he got there.
Like Gronk, Fournette, Antonio, Antonio Bryant.
Come on.
Antonio Brown didn't even really play until the playoffs last year.
And then he caught one touchdown in the Super Bowl.
And that was Brady.
And Brady loves that guy and looks out for him.
Now they are cooking.
And now he's cooking this year.
But Gronk was retired, didn't really have a great game until the Super Bowl.
And he just did it.
Dude, you, I think, told me this.
He was texting the team before the Super Bowl.
Every day at the exact same time, we in all caps will win.
There's a leadership component to the greatest that I really value.
But like Brady, where it's like he's the best leader.
Guys want to be around him and he wants to be a shepherd to these fucking guys.
Whereas you hear people talk about Jordan, they're like, it's a fucking nightmare.
I didn't want to be a part of it.
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I wanted to leave.
Like Leonard Fournette got cut by whoever drafted him, then came to the Bucs and had it, then was good.
Antonio Brown.
Jaguars?
Yeah, Jaguars.
Antonio Brown was people were like, he's not worth the fucking trouble.
Came, struggled at first, but then in the Super Bowl, in the biggest moment, Brady's like, I'll find you.
We're good.
We just know what he was capable of, though.
Yeah.
I mean, he was arguably the best wide receiver in the game.
So it's not like they had nothing.
And he was out of the league for a year and a half.
You know what I mean?
Like all these things.
It's just in the same way we give Jordan credit for, of course, he's not as good on the Wizards.
He wasn't in the league for two years.
Antonio Brown wasn't in the league for two years, basically.
And then he went to the Bucs and then was.
Well, if we can transition to talk about real sports for a second, e-gaming.
Right.
E-gaming.
Is that what the kids are calling it?
Yes.
Fortnite.
Yeah.
Fortnite Epic Games has won a lawsuit against Apple.
I don't know how that's fucking possible.
Good for them.
You don't take down Apple.
No.
So the FBI couldn't beat Apple in a lawsuit.
Right?
The FBI was like, can we get up in these phones?
And they're like, go fuck yourself.
Yeah.
Well, Epic Games, who makes Fortnite, was trying to get some bread on the side, right?
Apple's a dealer.
Apple's like, yo, if you want to sell drugs, you got to do it over here in Amsterdam.
Yeah.
Right.
And as long as you sell drugs on my fucking block, you got to give me 30%.
And that's 30% of whatever comes in.
And their block is the Apple Store.
So Apple don't give a fuck if you got Spotify or if you got any of these other apps because they know they're getting 30% of whatever comes in on that Apple store.
And then Epic Games, Fortnite, was basically like, yo, but we want to sell some shit within the game.
They already got it from you when you bought it, but you don't need to take what happens in the game.
Like we already got the game.
Yeah, like, why are you taking 30%?
That's a little crazy, right?
And they tried to set up their own little, I guess, like e-commerce business, like almost like economy within the game.
You get to buy, I think, V-Bucks, they're called or something like that.
I got to look up the exact name.
And Apple was like, nah, you cutting that shit down.
If you sell in pussy over here, we get a percentage.
Right.
And this is like the digital game currency that people use to like buy the sleeves and stuff for characters, et cetera.
Right.
It's really the first crypto when you kind of think of it.
Yeah.
It just doesn't fluctuate in the same way.
But it's a fake currency that you can use to buy nothing.
Buying real things to the consumer.
Well, I guess crypto is like NFTs are real things.
You know what I mean?
In a way, right?
So they sued, and I guess a fucking judge sided with them.
And this is kind of big because now all these apps that were giving up 30% of whatever they made within the game to Apple, now they're all going to come out and be like, okay, we're going to sell our shit.
Yeah, this hurts Apple.
I'm curious actually what happened to their stock price after this.
I would assume people are like, fuck, that's going to hurt their bottom line a good amount, I assume.
Interesting.
They just lost not 30% of income, but a decent chunk of income.
Because that's their whole business strategy, Apple.
I think their whole thing is like, we're going to lean into the Apple store or the App Store, rather.
We don't give a fuck about like creating these different devices.
Like we don't care about Apple Music as much as we care about the store because we'll just get a piece of everybody's thing.
We'll own the internet landscape.
And then whatever happens here, we'll get a little bit of it.
So now we don't.
Like a mafia boss.
Exactly.
I don't need to find my own hustles.
I just need you to find a hustle and I'll make sure you're going to be able to get a lot of people.
I don't need to make a restaurant to compete with you.
I get a piece of every restaurant.
Yeah.
So Apple's down three and a half percent.
Interest last five days.
Interesting.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
What do y'all think?
What is the I think it's a valid case?
It was a little wild.
Like you said, I didn't, once you explained it, I was like, yeah, you shouldn't get money on the in-app purchases.
No.
Just because they're using, they use the Apple store to buy it, you get your kickback.
But now it's my app.
You don't get that money.
Like Apple made the avenue for you to purchase this game.
I eat off that.
You wanted some shit to do outside?
Hey, find a way for them to buy your game without going through my app store.
Well, here's the thing.
It's interesting.
They said that you couldn't even include links and stuff within your app that would take you outside of the app store for you to make those purchases.
So they started like kicking out all those links where they could do like in-game purchases because they're like, nah, fam, we're going to make sure we eat on anything that comes over here.
I think it's, I don't know.
Like, I understand Apple because they're like, hey, listen, we're going to create the marketplace.
We're going to put a lot of money into the marketplace and it's going to be so easy for people to buy your games.
We're going to make it so simple for them.
You got to protect it against hackers, against this and that.
There's a ton of maintenance.
I just think, I just think the number is too high.
30%.
That's just.
They got greedy.
They got greedy.
What if it's like 30% of the app and then once you're in-game, it's 10%.
I don't think any of them are balking at 10%.
But when you go 30% and it's already in the game.
30% of in-app, I don't even, or 30% of the app, I don't mind.
Yeah, you had to buy the app.
Yeah, take 30%.
But once you're inside, take a smaller cut.
The actual thing, if it was 10, most apps are free, so they can make money.
So I'd be like, fine.
If my app is free and you get 10% of in-app purchases, it's fine.
But 30%, no.
It seems egregious, right?
And that's the thing.
What is it?
What is 30% of nothing?
If without the Apple stores, it's 30% or nothing.
That's true.
And they're hosting your shit for free, right?
They're not charging you nothing to host.
They're hosting it.
And then if your game happens to blow up, you got to pay off.
But all the games that don't blow up, they're just taking that on a fucking arm.
Yeah, but it's like monopolistic type shit.
Like, it's them or Android, and basically, you're saying, We're not going to let you have any other way on our phone.
Yeah.
So, you're going to have to give us a wait.
Are you trying to say that Apple's like a shrewd businessman?
Yeah, but I'm just no.
I'm saying America is going to fight against any monopolistic shit.
So, you're not going to have them valid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We will fight against a monopolistic practice if it hurts the consumer.
That's what I've realized about us.
Like, there's no question, like, Amazon is a monopolistic practice, but it helps the consumer.
Yeah.
So, all we really care about is ourselves, right?
If we're sitting back at home and we get to get the package, right?
If we get to get the fucking package delivered right to our door instead of going across the street to buy the book at Barnes and Noble and it's cheaper and it's cheaper, we'll do it.
It's just so weird, though.
Like, for example, there's I have the Amazon app on my phone, and I bought the Amazon app for free, and then I downloaded a virtual book on the Amazon app and I read the book, but I paid money to Amazon for it, even though it's hosted on Apple servers.
You know what I mean?
So, like, the book is hosted on Apple servers, break that part down, or like the app, like the Amazon app, like the Kindle app is on Amazon servers, Amazon servers.
I'm sorry, it's on Apple.
Like, I bought it through the app store.
Gotcha.
So, the book, that money.
Yeah.
So, I did an in-app purchase through the app store, and 30% of that goes to Apple.
Is that a good question?
So now I'm wondering: is the precedent that Amazon can come back and say, yo, we're not giving you anything?
Well, that's why there's a big deal.
Yeah.
Because once one company's getting 30% of every purchase, so like, even if I buy something through the Amazon store, if I buy groceries on the Amazon app, that's what I'm wondering.
That's going Apple.
And then my question seems crazy.
That seems like why are we getting 30% of everything?
Yeah, that seems crazy.
On top of that, all these guys push their app.
And if I was losing 30% of every in-app purchase, I'd be like, nah, you could buy this shit.
I would go so far.
They couldn't profit because the food that you buy at Whole Foods is not priced differently on Amazon when you buy it.
Right.
Yeah.
Right?
It's not like there's a 30% hike that they could pay over.
They can't afford to give 30%.
So there has to be something else going on.
That's what I'm wondering.
Or each company negotiates their own deal and Amazon is like, you're going to give this to us for nothing.
And Apple's like, you're right about that.
Or I wonder if there's a virtual product thing where like, if it's a virtual product that exists in your store and there's no competition, like it only exists in your app, then we get something.
Whereas but that's where I wonder with like, the virtual book, like I'm buying a virtual book, there's no way Amazon gets 30% or Apple gets 30.
Yeah yeah, it just seems so weird.
But, like Airbnb, I'm putting money into this.
Yeah, Apple's not getting any of it.
They have to get something.
That's the business model they got.
Varies per, yeah okay, varies by the company and that's what you work out.
So, like they get 30% of many digital in-app purchases.
Yeah, so this is so what.
This is really a negotiation for the percentage.
They know eventually they're gonna get some sort of cut and they can't risk it being kick, kicked off the Apple like app store, because they'll lose too much money anyway.
So they're like, all right, you're gonna take a small percentage.
It's just interesting, if they won the lawsuit, then they don't have to pay any percentage, right?
Because if Apple tries to kick them out of the thing, then couldn't they just go back to the same judge and say, they kicked us out?
Now I think you're allowed to.
I think Apple is just allowed to put whoever they want on there.
Yeah.
You know, at the end of the day, it's a private business.
It's not like it's a utility or something like that.
Right.
But I would love to see Apple's next move.
Yeah.
They're not going to appeal or are they going to just kick them off?
I think they just appeal and they let the fucking lawyer.
I bet you they appeal, they settle outside of court, and then they can't use that as the precedent for the future shit.
Because if you, if it's decision, so I bet you they try to repeal the decision and then they'll settle outside.
And the precedence thing is interesting.
Like, explain precedence.
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So basically, like, if a judge rules on something, to my knowledge, then it can be used as a precedent for future cases.
So other companies can go, look at the decision that happened right there.
We want the same ruling.
We want the same.
Whereas if they settle outside, even if it's the decision that the judge would have put forward, doesn't matter.
It can't be applied.
Didn't establish a precedent.
Exactly.
And they can put like NDAs in there.
We'll all find out what it is.
But legally speaking.
Legally speaking, there is no precedence for them to do it.
I don't know.
It's kind of interesting.
It's like, I know we put out the fucking episode, the NFTs are gay, whatever like that.
And like, they don't exist.
They're not real.
But the more that I've been like just kind of like digesting content, understanding like what things are, like how humans interact with things.
Something doesn't have to be real for us to believe it is.
Like we make things real and we ascribe value to things that do not have value.
Right.
And we do this all the time.
And I think the NFT jump is the first time we've done this to something that isn't actually there.
Right.
So it's like a Jordan sneaker has no more value than like a regular Air Max sneaker, right?
In terms of like the material used.
The value is added and it's us, it's the marketing of us believing in Jordan and valuing Jordan, or it's the value of us believing other people think Jordan's cool.
So now we do, right?
Whatever we decide is real becomes real and has value.
You've seen this happen with diamonds.
You see everybody says, oh, the diamonds trade is so controlled.
And that's why even if they let all the fucking diamonds out, diamonds would still have some value because of what we put onto it.
We've created the romanticism of like, oh, you must be engaged with a diamond and putting on a girl's wrist.
So even if you flooded the market in the same way that they flooded the market with money during the pandemic, even if you release a fucking stimulus of diamonds, how much did that stimulus really affect the value of the dollar?
It's shocking how there's not tons of inflation.
There should be so much inflation for the injection of capital that they put in our economy.
The fact that there's some.
That there's such a minute amount lets you know that this game is really just a confidence game.
Once we just go, as long as there are more goods than there is money to buy, money will maintain a currency will maintain its value, right?
And I'm assuming they calculated that.
Of course.
Like they're giving away money being like, we can inject X amount and mitigate inflation by this amount.
Yes.
But also the most important thing is we got to stop looking at economy as like, you have this many things, you're rich, right?
It's really how many things are you buying?
Because when you think about it, when the pandemic hit, it's not like there was less money in the economy.
It's not like we took money and burned it when the pandemic came.
It was the same amount of money there.
It was a consumption that shrunk.
So they flooded the economy so that there would be more consumption.
And that is what's really fueling consumption and consumer confidence.
And that's what's happening with the NFTs, right?
It might not be real, but as long as the consumption is there and the consumer confidence is there, all of a sudden it just becomes whatever fucking real is, right?
So it's like, I don't know, I'm seeing this like NFT like hustle going on.
What I really think it is, is a way to like pump and dump Ethereum, but you can't just say, hey, buy Ethereum.
I mean, some of it is.
Some of it.
Right, right.
Not to speak of like complete extremes, but like you can say, buy these NFTs.
And then people go, how do I do it?
Oh, you have to buy Ethereum to do it.
Okay.
Now Ethereum goes up.
It's a worthy investment.
If you're somebody who is an Ethereum billionaire, very worthy investment to give some popular figures and social media $50 million to go buy NFTs with.
And then Ethereum goes up 10% and you only have to spend 2% of your Ethereum to get an 8% return.
Anybody does that every day of the week.
But the fact that people are starting to buy into it and believe the hype and want to have an NFT and want to make it their profile picture, this could be a real thing.
You know, it's like, it's like your belief in crypto, right?
You may know more than the average person about like what makes these different cryptos valuable.
Barely, if at all.
Barely, right?
But you believe people believe.
That's all I believe.
Yes.
I believe people will believe.
And that's all that matters.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you're the fucking, like, if you're the leader of a country and you maybe are not religious, but you believe people believe, please believe you're going to use that religion to control some people.
Yeah.
Right.
And that is fucking crypto.
And that is these NFTs.
I will never understand the X's and O's of pretty much anything, but I think I know people.
And I think I know people are going to continue to believe in NFTs at a larger clip, continue to believe in Bitcoin at a larger clip.
I just, I could very well be wrong, but these are my hunches.
Look, it looks as if your hunches are right.
My hunch was, and maybe I'm way more conservative with investing in things that I can't actually control, but my hunch was like, the FCC or somebody's going to come in here and knock this shit all out.
That's a fear I have still.
But you know what should kind of make you feel a little bit better?
I think enough rich people are invested.
Yeah.
And rich people dictate the economic policy.
Yeah.
Not the FCC.
Rich people go, hey, buddy, I'm up 50% on my crypto.
You know, whatever person who runs the fucking, you know, monetary policy in America and the rest of the Western country, hey, we're not getting rid of these fucking coins, okay?
Yeah.
It's not hurting anybody.
I'm up 50%.
I'd like to keep that fucking money.
So the more invested when Visa buys an NFT, like the more invested the institutions get in crypto, the more fucking real and safe it becomes.
It's kind of crazy, even though we all know it's a farce.
It's nothing.
Yeah.
But it fucking nothing.
In my mind, couldn't walk me through how this conversation didn't happen with the dollar hundreds of years ago.
Maybe in the 70s, because before that, you could get gold, right?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
And now they remove the gold standard.
It's like, well, but here's the thing.
Can you ever remove a gold standard if I can just buy gold with dollars?
I mean, yeah, because then you're not pegged.
Yeah, each thing is varying.
And you could theoretically.
The dollar could fluctuate.
Can you flip the same argument for Bitcoin?
It's like, how fake is Bitcoin if I could sell a Bitcoin for $45,000?
As long as there's a consumer for it.
Yeah.
And then the idea is eventually like they either remove the marketplace or enough people feel like you can't sell it.
Like it's made illegal in enough places where it's like, okay, it's only legal in El Salvador.
I don't think they got enough rich motherfuckers in El Salvador to buy the rest of our shit.
I'm just saying, the investment in consumer confidence, no matter what it is, a fucking NFT, a sleeve in a video game, a fucking podcast, whatever the people find valuable, if enough people find it valuable, it becomes real.
It doesn't matter if you like it or not.
We might not like BTS or that fucking K-pop band.
We might not understand it.
If enough people like it, that is popular music.
Enough people wear baggy jeans.
That is the thing.
All fashion is, is confidence and what people are doing.
And it's like enough tastemakers doing a thing.
Yeah.
It's NFT.
It's like enough.
We were telling this in the car.
Baggy jeans should be more expensive than skinny jeans because it takes more material.
If we're just getting going off of the material, they should cost more.
When they're not cool, they cost less.
When they are cool, they cost more.
Right?
It's the consumer confidence that dictates the price.
And to tie fashion to this, it's like every new fashion that's ever come around.
Like now, when skinny jeans first came, I was like, this looks so fucking stupid.
This looks unbelievably stupid.
Now I'm using skinny jeans.
I'm looking at baggy jeans.
Like, that looks so fucking stupid.
What was I thinking when I wore it?
What the fuck is that?
That's not a thing.
But that's what this Bitcoin shit was to me.
It's what the fuck is that?
That's not so stupid.
It's going to go away, right?
It's got to go away.
Look what they did with fashion.
Like when they want to make something cool, I'm sure the companies reach out to the influencers.
They're reaching out to Bieber.
They're reaching out to Ariana.
They're reaching out to all these different people.
And they're like, hey, we would love to put the Kardashians.
We want to put you in our stuff.
And then all of a sudden, the rest of us see that and they go, I guess this is a new cool thing.
That's no different than crypto.
You know what I mean?
Like, how do I get the influencers?
If I'm someone who runs crypto, not runs, but a big-time investor, I'm from the Winkle Vosses.
I'm going, how do I get these market makers to be invested?
How do I explain to a Logan Paul?
How do I explain to, I'm not talking about Pompliano, right?
Because Pompliano is going to feed the people who are really into crypto already.
Ashton Kutcher and his wife.
How do I get Ashton?
How do I get exactly like the casuals to be into it?
And they've done it fucking, they've done it well.
And maybe this is a 20-year process.
I don't know how long the coins have been around, but like it's just, it's just amazing how we can just make something literally out of nothing.
He said, watching Dove Truffle in person.
This was absolutely phenomenal.
Okay.
This was absolutely phenomenal.
All right.
I didn't even know it was happening until it was the middle of it.
Like, you know, when you don't pay attention when your girl's talking, then you're halfway through a story.
You're like, all right, I got to figure this out.
He's committed to a huge trip and you don't name the store so we can go back.
No, no, I'm naming him the store because it's that much better.
So, you know, I'm a me Leon Dore or whatever it is.
Great store.
I love the stuff.
We're going like, actually, they have the best coffee in the city.
I mean, it's like called, it's like the 217 or something like that.
It's at the AMA store in Nolita.
It's the best coffee.
There's a specific one.
It's called the 217 or something like that.
Oh, yeah.
Cafe Leon Dior.
Yes.
It is the best.
I'm being honest with you.
It's a bougie.
It's a fucking hype beast clothing store.
No, I'm talking about you and your coffee shit.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we got to get the pink blue bottle or whatever.
Like, go to Starbucks.
Why do you add another color, dog?
He was like, oh, let's go.
Let's get some fancy fucking.
I had enough colors, bro.
The whole time I just come to the glass.
Starbucks caught up in price.
Yeah, what?
Starbucks is expensive now.
Come on.
You're so bougie, bro.
Let's breathe on these bougie.
All right, so boom.
So we out there and we go to the and we go there.
And I'm just standing outside.
We walk up to like the cafe part, and she's like, oh, there's actually the line over there.
The line is fucking huge just to get a coffee.
It's fashion week.
Everybody's in the city.
People want to hang out.
The whole thing's going to be.
You're not going to stand for that.
We're not going to stay for the line.
I turn around.
Dove is talking to this guy.
The guy walks over to me.
He goes, Hey, this is Andrew.
And he goes, Yeah, can I get you guys anything?
Oh, yeah, we'll have these coffees.
Order, gets us to the table, and we're sitting down.
I'm like, What just happened?
He goes, I'll be honest with you.
I've never met that guy in my life.
I go, What?
The guy walked us over and he said, Oh, great seeing you.
He goes, I was like, How did you fucking pull this off?
He just knew that the guy was the guy for the store.
Like, he was like the manager.
He thought he was like the owner, but he just knew because he was walking around there.
And he walked up to him as if he should know him.
So he walked up and he goes, He goes, I just start saying buzzwords, right?
He goes, I just walked up.
He goes, He goes, Hey, man, how are you?
Yeah, we just got back in town, man.
We're doing these shows over at the Fillmore and Detroit and Milwaukee.
But it's good to be back.
Stuff is crazy right now.
Just preparing for this special and everything like that.
But how are you, man?
And the guy doesn't want to not say, I don't know you.
Doesn't want to not know a person that seems like they should be known.
Yeah.
Everybody fall, like you ever have somebody act like they know who you are, not even act like they know who you are, and you're like, oh, we're friends.
I'm not.
But not in a famous way.
Like, I'm not pretending.
It's also Drew.
I recognize you.
It's also, yeah, so you didn't name drop.
It's a little nice.
I saw him look at you.
It's also a fashion week.
She might not have known me, but it was a name drop.
You can't.
Imagine there's all kinds of important motherfuckers walking around fashion week.
I can't.
He must be important.
Who gives a fucking thing?
And he was in the middle of the group.
I interrupted him all the time.
So it was like extra confidence.
It was like that scene in Hitch, but for truffles instead of bitches.
Yes.
So I was, I would do this in Vegas to like door guys, right?
But this was so audacious because it was like, this is somebody that you're going to see.
You're going to go shop at this place.
Like, not anymore.
Yeah.
Probably even like now.
It's like a real connection.
So the guy, it fucking perfectly works.
He just acted as if the person should know him, but without going like, hey, how are you?
More just like, oh, yeah, we just got back in the town.
Like, you're almost finishing a sentence from the last time you spoke.
Yeah.
And the guy fell right into it.
That's so good.
Let us go fucking line.
Get to the seat.
You're not afraid of the rejection.
Because in my mind, the guy's going to look at me and go, Do I know you?
Say what you said.
This was great.
I don't think you're going to be able to do it.
Say what you leave.
First of all, you guys understand with all my girl successes, I'm not afraid of rejection because of the amount of times I've been rejected in my life is stellar high number.
You have to get rid of that party.
How many?
How many?
I mean, are we in the quadruple?
Didn't he know that?
He loves a shooter, bro.
You don't feel, I don't feel like I got rejected.
They just have his covered me.
Yeah.
They just don't know.
Okay, but go on.
What were we talking about?
Girls or coffee?
No, no, no.
The coffee.
Same name.
But you, no, there was a specific thing that you said.
You were like, I'm putting him in the position where he doesn't want to let me down.
Yeah.
I want to believe that he's like excited that I'm there now or just so he's connected and we're just finishing whatever last conversation we had.
So like, or at a club or walking in a door, you want me in that club.
You want me in that coffee?
That's impressive.
We go out last night in Milwaukee.
And granted, it's Milwaukee.
It's not New York.
But still, we just any place we went to, long ass line.
And we just like sick dove on him.
It's like, Dove, go get him.
We just there off in the side and just watch, wait for the come on over.
So what's the strategy?
Two places.
Two places.
We just walk right up.
Okay, that was something else.
That was something else.
So we had our little stickers, our little backstage passes from the Paps venue, and it was like on my leg.
When we're walking up, I'm like, you know, it's Al.
It's, he's got the line.
He's Tom Brady.
No, but Al's super smart.
People that walk next to me, I'm like, stay the fuck away from me.
10 feet backwards and let me look like the fucking Jewish manager.
I moved this sticker to like my shirt.
So I know that it's an eye-line for them.
I'm like, what's this little badge that says all access and blah, blah, blah.
Start shooting with buttons.
You got to hit him quick.
And you can't wait in line.
If like you got to, he's talking to someone, you got to interrupt that conversation.
And I kind of put a little fear in my eyes.
Like, oh my God, I'm keeping out waiting right there.
And Al does it perfectly.
He and Derek are chatting up.
Vala is even playing the part with a cigarette in the corner.
And they just need to stand in their little thing, be seen, and then I'll call you when you're ready.
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And then that's it.
Legend.
And do you have a different strategy for every person?
Every time.
I like I said.
You make it up on the floor.
You got to be 10 different characters.
I'm not an asshole.
Sometimes I can be tough.
Sometimes you were on the phone when I was handling this hotel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it was funny.
It was just all just be different folks, but my intention is to be able to do that.
How do you know?
I'm not taking anything from these guys.
This club wants these guys in there.
You value them.
We're the Nolita locals.
And we're not going to be able to do it.
How do you learn this?
That was Bitcoin.
How do you learn this?
He believes this.
When I was a kid, my mom would like, she'd get a parking ticket.
I was like 12.
Goose parking tickets.
Go look like a victim.
Pretend I don't speak English.
But no.
Persians, and I'll get a shout out to Persians listening.
The Persians were some of the original trufflers.
And my policy is like, I've never stolen anything, but I'll like get in.
I'll get a hook.
I'll do whatever.
This is how you learn it.
You exist in a place, LA, where everybody is trying to get clouts and connectivity to fame.
Like everybody in LA, I don't care if you're the fucking door guy, the Pilates instructor.
I don't care if you run a fucking cycling class.
Everybody there wants to be famous.
And they think that they're this close to fame.
And once somebody's presented with the feeling as if they could be that close, they'll do anything.
So that guy at the door, that's not their dream.
The guy at the, even the bouncers there.
Yeah.
Right?
Like everybody there, they feel like they're this close.
So if you give them that access point and you make them feel as if they should, they'll do anything to fulfill that prophecy.
Right.
And that's the Vegas thing.
The Vegas people, like, I'm sure you're doing fucking incredible in Vegas.
Vegas people, they meet thousands of people every single week.
So if you go up to a door guy in Vegas and act like he should know who you are and say the right things, why would he not believe that you guys have met and that he showed you the night of your life?
Why would he not, but there's no way that you aren't that person.
Just walking right up to him, dude, great to see you, my man.
Yeah, we're back.
Unfortunately, these poker tournaments or unfortunately, you know, summer league, whatever.
And then he just does this buzzword stuff, which is so great.
He's not even saying sentences.
He's just saying the things that are going on.
Yeah, Netflix has us back out here again.
I got to get the fucking guys, whatever.
Like literally, Netflix, this.
Yeah, we have this, blah, blah, blah.
The team is everything like that.
So I'm taking out a couple guys from the team and everything like that.
But yeah, so whatever.
Boom.
And then you're in.
Good to see you.
Are we good to go or something?
Yeah, nothing.
I've never greased one door guy.
This is my entire life.
This is great.
So back to the LA thing.
It's like, I'm 2021.
I'm going out.
You pay the door guy.
You pay every time again.
Every time.
And it sets your tone differently.
What you need to do is find your way.
You shouldn't be in there.
That's why you're paying.
You shouldn't go.
You're tipping him to let someone who shouldn't be in there be in there.
If you're not tipping the door guy and he lets you in, he goes, he must be it.
God for why did I make him wait?
It's my job to make sure guys like this are in.
So find a way to get in.
I wish I could.
And once you're in, don't make an exit.
Focus on the exit with the person that you know is going to be in there the next time.
It's the promoter.
It's not usually the bodyguard, but like or the bouncer, but like a promoter that's there.
There's a way to have that chat, get to know them, what they're all about, like what's their other side hustle, and it's connected to something that you do.
Just that one-minute conversation in an organic way will serve you for a year at that club.
That's all it takes.
So you always, you do the hustle on the way out.
No, just get in there.
You're going to be more Jews with how good you guys sell.
You know what I mean?
Like you'd think you'd convert more people, like get them on board.
They don't want to convert.
Yeah, they know.
They've been around each other.
Like, we need to confine this to people we love and we're close to.
They're the chosen people.
You can't have more chosen people.
But yeah, who can they take advantage of?
They need the goys and the Muslims around there so they can be like, hey, Jeffrey, how you doing?
It's good to be back.
Let me trick this dumb fucking Christian to let me into the clubs.
We go to another spot and it was like, even though it was a huge spot, it was packed, but there wasn't much of a line.
And he looked disappointed.
He didn't have to try.
I looked disappointed at that.
He was disappointed.
He was like, fuck.
Well, then shout out to that place.
Oh, Trinity.
Trinity.
We had to.
Actually, that all recognized flagrant fountain.
They hooked us up.
I'm about to piss myself, guys.
Is there anything else?
Biden came out and he gave some rules on.
I have them down here because I don't want to get them wrong, but a vaccine mandate.
All federal employees, local, government, state employees have to get the vaccine.
No options.
And then I believe at a certain size company, you either have to get the vaccine.
Companies with more than 100 workers require vaccination or weekly testing.
I like that they do or weekly testing.
Or weekly testing, I like.
Yes.
There's something different about like forcing someone to have something in their body and just taking a test to make sure that you don't have it.
Yeah, correct.
I like that as an option.
They should have made it limited.
Fake like it's limited.
Like with the diamonds, they should have did that with the vaccine.
Everybody would have.
That's what I was saying early.
It was mad hearted.
That's what I'm saying early.
Russian to get that shit.
Yeah, yeah.
You got white people going to the game.
Get out of you, motherfucker.
No, but I'm just saying.
How do you argue against yourself?
Listen, have you listened to this podcast?
I do, bro.
Say one thing, completely refute it.
You know what I mean?
Rhinoceros is a trash animal.
Imagine.
Rhinoceros sucks, bro.
Son, like getting animals to the Coliseum is the easiest fucking thing ever.
You do vaccine life.
That is incredibly hard.
The difficulty of that is crazy.
All you got to do is wait for it to be baby, snatch it from the mom, and then you just put that shit on a boat.
What happened to you?
What happened to your statue?
You throw one baby out of some shit.
It's dumb easy.
It's just the easiest thing.
Nigga, what it took to think of that.
Son, you don't got nothing to do.
You don't got the internet.
You don't got Instagram.
All you got to do is sit on your fucking ass nigga about these.
So much confidence.
I'm so sure I'm right.
As I'm arguing, his point, I'm like, this shit is real.
Yo, we could have done this bitch for a little longer.
How could he let me vanishing this bit out a little longer?