Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Andrew Cuomo's resignation, mocking his "I'm not a pervert, I'm just Italian" defense as an offensive cultural excuse for misconduct. They condemn his pandemic book for downplaying nursing home deaths, comparing his hypocrisy to O.J. Simpson while criticizing Chris Cuomo for promoting the text despite alleged knowledge of elder fatalities. The hosts analyze how politicians like Clinton and Weiner rationalize abuse through moral ambiguity, concluding that an addiction to power often insulates great men from consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
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Characterizing Italians Offensively00:13:55
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Tuesday.
So, Governor Cuomo has just resigned.
A lot of people send me DMs like, yo, your work is done.
Look what you did.
You got him out of here.
I don't think that I played any part in getting him out of here.
I think that he was probably getting a little handsy with these girls.
You'll take the credit for getting him out of here.
I will take the credit.
And listen, we're feminists, dude.
You can't disrespect women and have let us, you're not getting it.
Not on my watch.
Yeah.
And you can't disrespect Italians.
You can't.
Wait, what was he doing to Italians?
Well, he said, I'm not perverted.
I'm just Italian.
That is true.
And that's offensive to Italians that are listening to it being like, hey, we're also perverted too.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Why would you take perversion away from Italians?
That's what I'm saying, right?
It's disgusting.
Yeah.
I'm not a pervert.
I'm just Italian.
It's like, bro, own it.
So insulting, dude.
You'd be both insulting.
I am perverted and a male.
And a Metalian.
Or just say I'm Italian.
Just say I'm Italian.
Double whim.
It's an umbrella and everything's underneath it.
And I don't think any Italians are upset about this.
Do you guys think?
No chance.
I mean, this guy has daughters.
I'd be really curious to see how he feels if someone treated his daughters like that.
Would he look at them and be like, are you Italian?
And then they're like, oh, you're Italian.
It's okay.
Try to finger my daughter.
That's totally fine.
You're an Italian.
I love this pizza spot.
This is one of my favorite pizza spots.
Oh, just smell this seat that she sat on because you're Italian.
Sniff her garlic knot.
Leave her.
That's all that matters.
You're Italian.
That's the excuse for everything, right?
Let thousands of people die because they're old.
You stuffed them into this home and you write a book about it.
It's an Italian thing.
It's our culture.
They all live together.
They're very family oriented.
They're communal.
Exactly.
And if they're not family-oriented, stuff them in the COVID den and let them die.
That's what Mussolini would have done.
Yes, he would have.
That is the greatest Italian leader.
Oh, my God.
They tried.
Mussolini said, I'm not a dictator, a fascist.
I'm Italian.
Oh!
Hickory Dickorita!
I sent your grandma to the Golta!
I thought I could have done better with that.
Jack and Jill went up there.
I fingered my maid.
What?
Is that how it goes?
My name is Governor Cuomo.
What's another Andrew Dice Glay lie?
I only know the Hickory Dickery.
Yeah, Mother Goose.
Mother Goose.
I don't know what happens after that.
No, what is it?
Something she left.
What was it?
What was it?
Oh, fuck.
Oh, man.
Jack and something, something.
Oh, God, I'm forgetting it, dude.
I'm having a moment.
Yeah, I know.
Man, I completely forgot, dude.
Like everybody that Cuomo killed during COVID.
You see that?
A little memory lapse.
Did you forget about that when you wrote a book about it?
You piece of shit.
What a piece of shit.
If he didn't write the book, it's defensible.
Yep.
If he didn't write the book, like if he didn't write the book, he can lie and say, I didn't touch anybody inappropriately.
Right.
And he can say, we did the best that we possibly could.
We didn't know it was going to happen in this way.
And we so regret it.
But when you lead, you have to make decisions.
And people end up dying because of those decisions.
And that's the cost of leadership.
And I think you could have like bowed out gracefully, right?
But the fact that he wrote the book so we hit the numbers is so trash.
Get it, dude.
Cannot come back.
Cannot come back.
It'd be like if OJ wrote a book, like if I did it.
You know what I mean?
It's just you're rubbing salt the wound.
You know what I mean?
Yo, OJ's a lad.
Cuomo's walking around New York like, dude, I'm afraid I might be near the governor that killed everyone.
Yo, you know what's interesting?
OJ is a pariah.
You can't be around him.
I know Al wants him on the podcast.
It would make me feel uncomfortable to have him on the podcast because he killed two people.
Yeah.
Governor Cuomo killed thousands of people.
Alex Jones.
If you want to get on our podcast, you got to kill thousands of people.
I mean, Alex Jones just said people didn't die.
He just said people didn't die.
And then that guy's completely canceled.
Cuomo killed thousands of people.
It is a good point.
Thousands of people he killed.
He killed that.
He made a decision to kill thousands of people, right?
He said thousands of people are fucking dead because of decisions I make.
And I'm going to lie about it.
Sweep it under the rug.
Then write a book about how great of a job I did.
He patted his own back for killing those people.
He celebrated his mother.
He celebrated it.
And he's canceled it for patent some fanny.
That's what he's canceled for because Fanny came up to him and he just pat, pat, pat.
He also did the worst stuff, though.
What did he do?
I think he was Alzani went under the shirt.
That's Italian.
That's Italian, dude.
Sorry.
Listen, you're honestly, you're not respecting other cultures.
There are certain cultures that you have to respect.
And like he said, this is an Italian thing.
If a girl walks by him with a skirt, he has to lift it up.
He has to lift it up.
It's Marilyn Monroe.
He has to lift it up and you have to smell her fanny, dude.
Do you see that big fucking mug of his?
You think that big mug isn't huffing Anus non-stop in the office, dude?
Come on, Mark.
Have some respect.
That's why Italians got big noses so they can sniff.
Take it all in.
Sniff, sniff, sniff.
No, not me.
I understand.
I'm not Italian.
This big nose is not used for smelling fanny as he walks by.
He's ruining the name Andrew.
He's ruining the name Andrew, dude.
Also, what self-respecting Italian names their kid Andrew?
That's not an Italian name.
Andrea or something like that.
Andres, I don't know what it is.
But Andrew is a strong Scottish name.
And Chris, Christopher for Columbus, I guess.
I guess.
Who even knows where that cuck is from?
Right?
Running away from his fuck problems, little bitch.
I want to go to the end of the horizon.
I think the world is wound.
I think it's wound the world.
What a pussy.
Oh, man.
What did he do?
Sailed the wrong way.
Sailed the wrong way.
How do you go the wrong way, dumbass?
It's the very beginning.
Yeah, I wish he got to y'all.
Hey, hey, honestly, Delta might not be happening if he did.
That's a good ass point.
Yeah.
That's a good ass point.
This is, hey, that's a good ass point.
We're doing reparations for American Indians.
We're giving y'all some sickness for once.
Wait, wait, keep going.
Okay, see?
Keep going.
You guys killed all the other Indians with your fucking smallpox blankets.
We kill you guys with our blanket thing is out of come on.
There's no way.
How many blankets are you giving out?
How many blankets?
How many blankets?
It's one.
They got to share the blanket.
There's no blanket.
They're cold.
There's only so many people.
Okay, so we gave two or three blankets and then all the Native Americans just died?
It's a contagious disease.
It's on it.
What disease in Wuhan?
Nobody talks about how.
What disease in Wuhan?
Nobody from one scientist.
Nobody talks about how well they slept.
And I think that's an important thing.
They slept too well.
That's the problem.
They took the great sleep.
They had the great sleep.
Yeah.
The great sleep.
The one that lasted forever.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's the problem.
But that's the thing.
This blanket thing.
I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.
I think maybe I'm buying it.
Bro, where do you get it?
How many blankets?
What?
You come into the new free world and you bring 75 blankets?
Where do you think your blankets are from?
Where do you think they're from?
Pottery barn.
They're from China.
From Pottery Barn.
Exactly.
They're not from China.
They are from China.
And then you got COVID.
I don't get anything from China.
New Balance.
American Made.
Okay?
Stone Island.
England.
England.
Okay.
Car Hart.
Yeah.
American Made.
Okay.
Yeah.
What do you got on?
Oh, his shit is Chinese.
You want to talk about Chinese shirts?
You want to talk about Chinese shirts?
We're not going to talk about Alex's shirt.
That's what we're not going to do is talk about Alex's shirt right now if we're bringing up Chinese shirts.
R.I.P. Chicks.
Whoa!
Come on!
He's stupid.
Hickory Dickery Doc!
I still think Cuomo needs to write the book.
I know we talked about this before.
He's got to write the book on not sexually harassing women.
Oh.
We talked about it before, but I think it's still worth doing it.
He has to write the book about how to do it.
He wrote the book about how to handle a pandemic, even though he killed a bunch of people.
It's not even about not sexual harass.
He has to write the book about how to do office HR.
He wrote the book about how to handle a pandemic.
Write the book about how to handle your office.
The Italians are awesome.
It could be a self-confident.
It could be that.
The secret.
Call it the secret.
That's what he told his staffers.
It is definitely a secret.
I love this idea.
I think it's a great idea.
I think that what were some of his rules, right?
He had that one rule where women have to sit on stools upside down.
So he makes them turn upside down and then just pick a peg and then you sit on that.
And that's where you do your work.
That's just to make sure everyone has a seat.
Exactly.
All three women sit back to back on that stool.
Slot it down.
Okay.
And then what happens afterwards?
Okay.
Shave off the stool into a caccio pepper.
Okay.
That's how he makes the parmesan.
Tell me what.
Tell me what.
Real talk.
I think he has to do that.
What are we going to call it?
I like The Secret.
I think The Secret is good.
How to win friends and harass your staff.
That's a good one.
What else?
That's good.
The Sexual Harasser Next Door.
The Sexual Harasser Next Door.
That's good.
Okay.
What is that book called?
The Dummies or The Idiot Sky?
Yeah, for dummies.
What is it?
Sexual Harassment for Dummies?
Sexual Harassment for Dumb.
No, no, no.
It's just office management.
It's like Office HR for dummies.
How to finger women you don't know when they come close to you for dummies.
For Italians.
For Italians.
It's the culture.
I'm sorry.
I always get confused.
I always get confused.
I'll walk down the street with my girl and someone hollers at her.
I'm like, are you Italian?
He's like, yeah.
I'm like, oh, that's fine.
I agree.
I'll dap him up.
I'll be like, yeah, of course, dude.
If he's German, I'm going to fight him.
You have to fight him.
I know.
But he's Portuguese, Brazilian, whatever.
I got to fight him.
It's a cultural thing.
We have to respect culture.
Don't we respect culture?
Do you know what I mean?
I think that's the point.
That's what American progressives say.
They're like, listen, I understand in certain countries, they take the gays up to the highest building and they see if they can fly.
Yeah.
Right?
Exactly.
They do that.
And then Americans go, we have to respect these other cultures.
We cannot intervene.
Italians have a culture.
That's all Andrew Cuomo is saying.
Maybe he's from a specific part of Italy, which is way more rapey than the other parts, right?
And that's why he has to constantly funnel tits and try to finger girls.
He's sticking fingers in slits.
The guy's a slip-fingered chip-nippled sauce monkey.
No, that was not.
He is.
No, he is that, dog.
He is that.
Well done.
He's a slip-finger and chip-nippled sauce monkey.
I said it again.
I'll say it three times.
Fast will appear right now and try to finger us all.
Okay?
He's a candyman.
I think he is from, his family's from Nipples.
War!
Naples!
I met Naples.
I'm at Naples.
I met Naples.
War?
Did you have a little slip up right now?
I met Naples.
Dude, you keep slipping up like that all with Alex fingerbanging right now while you sit in that goddamn seat.
Payback's a bitch.
Okay?
Payback is a bitch.
He's going to pay my back.
Real talk.
Okay?
Honestly, Cuomo, you need to put some respect on him.
Okay?
He's Italian.
It's just respect the culture, not Cuomo.
Respect his culture.
I don't think that that's Italian culture, but that's how he's characterizing it.
And as a non-Italian, who am I to question an Italian?
Who am I?
Who am I?
I mean, we say this all the time.
Who am I to speak on behalf of black people?
Okay?
The perfect person.
But outside of that, who am I to speak on behalf of Indians?
I'm not Indian.
Who am I to speak on behalf of French?
Or gays.
Or gays.
Okay?
I'm not that.
Okay.
Who am I to speak on behalf of Italians?
Italians?
Is that what we're talking about?
Yeah.
Oh, I was thinking of one for me.
Scots.
Scots.
Okay.
Scots.
Scots.
Germans.
Irish.
I'll speak on behalf of them.
Americans.
I'll speak on behalf of Americans.
I can't speak on behalf of Italians.
People might call you ugly.
And you're like, I'm not ugly.
I'm just Scottish.
Whoa, whoa, And that's the thing.
That's just your culture.
That's our culture.
That's what I'm saying.
Akash is like, I don't smell.
I'm just Indian.
And we're like, yeah, of course.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
The way it's coming out.
How did I go?
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh, God, the idea.
And one for you.
Oh, Rocket.
That's what that's for.
You're cold and respectful.
What a podcast.
This guy's not violent.
He's just Scottish.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, I called you ugly.
I'm trying to respect your culture, Claude.
You got mad at me.
Do you want to take?
They call you ugly.
I'm the most handsome man at entertainment.
Ugly, dog.
I'm the most handsome man at the end of the ugly.
Alex, Alex, Alex, don't even start.
Okay.
And also with his forehead, let's not get in.
Let's not get this.
Also, he said Indians smell as if he didn't smell himself.
I said you don't smell.
I said you're just Indians.
You don't smell.
You're just an Indian guy.
I'll accept that from them, but not you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's him.
He smells the worst, but he's also French.
They do have a little odor to them.
Okay.
That's true.
That's right.
No, are you French?
I was born in France.
That counts.
He wasn't born in France.
Where was I born?
You weren't.
Where was I born?
You weren't.
You were born here.
And then you moved over there.
No, I was born in Paris.
He's lying.
Is that a lie?
He's lying.
Dead ass.
You're lying.
You weren't born there.
Why would I lie about that?
Miles says he wasn't born there.
Miles told me he wasn't bad.
The Ugly Side of Politics00:02:52
Wow.
Wow.
He's been lying.
Was this the bellyage part too?
I do impress you guys.
Why would that impress us?
Because I'm French.
Yeah, but we don't care about that.
I didn't hate that.
We resent that.
I'm going.
Yeah, you're going.
I've been going for a weekend.
It's nice for a weekend.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's what my parents said, too, when I was born there.
Then they left.
Well, don't take your girl to Italy because God knows what will happen there.
Why?
What will happen?
What will happen?
I mean, Italian culture.
Again, we don't know if that's Italian culture.
I know plenty of Italians that do not.
Are you really going to choose faults?
It's also not wrong if Italians do it.
Exactly.
Yeah, I don't know.
What I'm trying to say is he's characterizing Italians in a way that might piss off Italians.
How can you question an Italian?
I'm just saying, I'm not going to go out there and say that this is all Italians.
I'm not going to do that because he might be mischaracterizing Italians.
That's just what I'm saying because I have plenty of Italian friends and they're not just walking around trying to finger girl slits.
That's Chal Pablo.
They don't do that.
They don't do that shit.
Okay.
That might just be him and maybe his specific region.
I know that Italy is very tribal and maybe that's what he's trying to say.
Okay.
But I know that he's out there.
He's kissing guys.
I mean, he said this himself.
He's like, I kiss guys.
I grab girls.
I do this.
I grab powerful people.
There was a picture with him and Clinton.
He's like grabbing Clinton's face, kissing him.
Well, a lot of people grab Clinton's face and kiss them.
I don't know if it was that way or the other way around.
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Okay, so what's the takeaway from this?
What's the takeaway?
Don't sexually harass women is one potential takeaway.
I also learned a lot about Italian culture, personally.
I've been curious about that culture for a long time.
Nice to know.
Yeah.
Nice to know.
Don't go to Olive Garden.
Okay.
Because if there's Cuomo type Italians there, it could be not as fun.
That's true.
That's true.
And Alex, what did you take away from this?
I don't know which one is worse.
Laws Targeting Powerful Men00:05:41
I still don't know.
Turn it up.
Killing old people or groping women.
Or groping women.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess what you're saying is they're both horrible.
Like groping women is so bad that it's almost akin to killing old people.
You should have resigned for killing the old people, but it was the 11 women.
Because he killed the old people by mistake.
He groped the women on purpose.
Oh, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
That's important distinction.
Death is bad, though.
I'd rather get killed than have someone assault me.
Well, it depends how they're assaulting me.
They might assault you in a way that makes you want to die.
He fingered my ass.
I'd rather that happen than be dead right now.
You'd rather your ass get fingered than be dead.
You dig actually.
No, no.
You would rather get bent over and then someone just fucking dig away.
It was not with my consent.
I did not bend over.
He took it.
No, I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, if you got bent over and someone was just jamming gunfinger into your ass, would you be okay with that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think death might be better than that one.
Then be dead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
Fair enough.
Okay, so Cuomo gets what was coming to him.
Now, what about Chris Cuomo?
What about the brother, CNN?
Some people saying he's got to go.
Yeah.
He might got to go.
Complicit.
Oh.
Because wasn't he an advisor?
Yep.
So he was aware of these things.
Hypothetically speaking, he's aware of these things.
Let his brother put out the book, promoted that fucking book, promoted his brother, saying he's the best.
They had their stupid little brotherly love, you know, FaceTime calls or Zoom calls on the air, teasing everybody.
Oh, go see mom.
Oh, where's mom?
I know there's a lot of moms that aren't to be seen anymore because they go to you, right?
That's a good point.
So should he be accountable for what's happening?
Maybe Chris Cuomo is the real Italian.
He didn't snitch.
He basically took a blood oath.
He said, nothing.
You can't get my brother through me.
I'm not a fucking stool.
He's not afraido.
We always thought he was afraido.
He's not afraido.
He rides.
He rides.
He is ride or die.
That's interesting.
He's ride or die.
If Chris Cuomo is like, what?
I'm just Italian.
I'd be like, nah, that makes sense.
That one makes sense.
That's a great point.
Chris Cuomo is Italian, dude.
Yeah, you can chalk up anything to the Italians.
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
Okay, so, but what do you think happens with him?
Because we all the time try to hold Facebook accountable for misinformation that's out there.
We try to hold these different platforms, Instagram, Twitter accountable for misinformation and spreading of fake news and the effects of the spread of that fake news.
Well, what happens if you suppressed news?
What happens if you work as the person who delivers the news to the people and you actively suppress and help somebody who is murdering thousands of old people?
Well, they say he wasn't allowed to talk about it, which is convenient.
Which is convenient, but that happened afterwards.
Yeah.
While it was happening, he was allowed to talk about it and chose not to while he was also advising his brother.
So he's on the payroll.
He's getting a couple shekels from the family, right?
While at the same time, running coverage for his ass on CNN and calling out everybody and their mother on his channel.
That's the issue.
That's where you fuck yourself.
If you're CNN, especially those nighttime guys, it's very pious.
It's very self-righteous.
Everybody else's behavior is deplorable.
Advise your brother who's doing that kind of deplorable shit.
Now you gotta go.
Interesting.
It's akin to writing a book.
It's the fucking news reporter equivalent of writing a book about what a great job you're doing.
What is there to talk about today?
I don't know.
Yeah.
Nothing.
There's a 2,000 old people that aren't around anymore, but who cares?
Let's not talk about that.
We'll talk about the death numbers every single day on this network.
We'll talk about how deadly the virus is every single day on this network.
We'll have a ticket.
How many people have died?
The last thing we'll do is say the old people that were stuffed in the home by my brother and that I knew about, potentially or allegedly knew about.
Yeah, this number is a little lower than it should be because we're not counting those.
That's a little wild.
You gotta go.
So there might be something about just being governor of New York because apparently this is the second governor of New York that resigned over sexual misconduct.
Who was the last one?
The Elliott?
Spitzer.
Oh, Spitz.
Oh, legend.
Apparently.
Actually, nope, nope, not all.
I forgot.
Glad you corrected yourself.
Missy Elliott over here.
Did you ever get into this book?
Wasn't he taking nudes while babysitting?
No, Anthony Wiener.
That was Anthony Miller.
Oh, Anthony Wiener, bro.
He's a legend.
Joe, son.
That's a wild boy son.
He's babysitting his kid and sending nudes out.
He's like an underage girl.
It was underage girls, son.
You better miss it.
Just shut the fuck up for the next few minutes so this podcast doesn't get canceled.
Nah, they're legendary pedophiles.
That's what I'm trying to say, bro.
I let you finish.
Yeah, if that's exactly better, but I see what you're saying.
Oh, okay.
But he got in trouble with the prostitutes in 2008.
Spitzer.
Spitzer did.
I think soliciting sex across state lines.
Is that what they got him on?
Across state.
If anyone ever says across state lines, I'm like, what does that mean?
I don't even understand.
It's called the Man Act or something like that.
Prostitutes across state lines?
I don't know.
Chappelle had a joke about it once.
I think it's called the Man Act.
Yeah.
It was like some old law that they got him on or something like that that was passed apparently to get Jack Johnson, who loved fucking white girls and he was the first black heavyweight.
And they just wanted to bring him down.
So they're like, that was passed out.
He knows a lot about this law right here, bro.
Hell yeah.
There's no law to evade the law.
Yeah.
I feel you.
So wait, so what happened?
But no, he resigned.
So now Cuomo's the second governor to resign over sexual misconduct in the last like, what, 12 years?
Do you think it's possible that there's a straight politician that is over 60 years old that hasn't been that hasn't been handsy or weird to women that were close to them?
Obama.
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Yo.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I said straight, but I think that will turn off.
He just turned over 60 and Obama been done for eight years now.
He doesn't qualify because he just not 60.
He just turned 60.
Okay, yeah.
Do we think there is?
And now he's Cuomo and all that.
And this is why I asked.
This is why all these women say we need reform.
Well, and I think they might be right.
But this is why they ask.
I don't think that we need reform for the average person.
So this is what's tricky, right?
Politicians are supposed to represent the average man or the average woman, right?
And they have this uncanny ability to be relatable, right?
You hear them speak and you're like, oh my God, that guy really reflects some things that I see in me.
Like Bill Clinton apparently is so fucking charismatic when you meet him.
He makes you think like you're the most amazing person, the most interesting person he's ever spoken to, right?
So we see flashcards with you know some of his dates.
Wait, does he?
Yeah, exactly.
On the plane to Epstein's Island.
That's what he does.
He's known for that.
Wow, boy over here, bro.
Roy.
Oh, I didn't know about that.
Clinton does that, yeah.
He's very friendly, yeah.
You didn't know that?
Anyway, these are all allegedly.
Okay, you fucking piece of shit.
He's a victim.
Yeah, allegedly charismatic.
Andrew Cuomo was assaulting this man.
The guy's a victim.
Hurt people, hurt people.
How do you know it didn't start with Cuomo?
And then after that, he was like, I need to go to that island.
I need to do what was done to me to someone else.
Okay.
Cuomo's the first vampire.
He bit Clinton.
What's the opposite of a retirement home?
Epstein's Island.
That's what I'm talking about.
Exactly.
Okay.
Now, so back to back to this.
Back to this point, which I forgot.
What the fuck was I saying?
Oh, yeah.
So the politicians are supposed to represent the people.
Yeah.
So the politicians represent the people.
We think that they are like us, and that is their shtick.
That's their gimmick.
And convincing us, their gift is convincing us they're just like us.
They're one of the people, but they also can lead the people and they have these great ideas.
They're going to take care of us, right?
What we often don't see in these people, but is true, is an insatiable desire for power.
Insatiable.
If you want to be a politician, you desire power.
Yeah.
And it can, there's, there's certain people who maybe they want to be politicians because they want to help, right?
But even if you want to be a politician because you want to help, you also desire power.
Yes.
Okay.
Most of the people I know that want to help, just go help.
They work for a not-for-profit.
There's tons of ways to foundation.
Like those, most of the people I know that really want to help, they just do that.
Tons of ways to help.
The best politicians would never want to be a politician.
Like the best leader.
It never wants to be like 100%.
Now, so these people want to be politicians.
They want to win the elections.
They want to have the power, power, power.
People who have this addiction to power.
Yep.
Right.
Why do you have an addiction to power?
Because you like to use that power.
You like the way that power, people treat you when you have that power, right?
There is something dangerous.
There is something nefarious that comes with the yearning for power.
Okay.
I'm not surprised that people who are addicted to power are willing to dedicate their life to being in positions of power, act weirdly around people and try to use that power around people, especially those that are less powerful and get off on the usage of that power around the people that either depend on them or are less powerful and kind of have to do with what they're saying.
Yeah, they don't stop expressing their power, exerting it over people.
They're not serial killers, right?
They're not like serial rapists, right?
They're not that horrible with it where like they need to feel powerful and they're going to imprison a fucking woman in an attic so that they feel all the power and control over that person, right?
That's what like the serial rapist, serial killer, some shit you see on fucking law and order SVU, right?
That's that kind of stuff.
That's the extreme version.
They're like right before that, right?
They're like right here, right?
So what I'm trying to understand is if you had that like disgusting disease inside you where you just constantly crave this power, is it that shocking that you're going to use it, especially around your staff and especially around the sex that you are attracted to?
If you're gay, it's going to be to dudes.
You see this happening in Hollywood all the time.
Gay dudes doing it to dudes, straight dudes doing it to women, right?
You see it in every different field.
I mean, even powerful women will do it to their dudes.
100%.
We know a good friend of ours had a powerful woman do it to them.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, there's this famous quote that I always think about that's like, great men are hardly ever good men.
And like, I kind of think that's true.
Yeah.
Like to be great in the sense that like you've done something like substantial like governmentally or like politically or something like that.
We're talking like the elites of the elites.
It's hard to get there by being a good guy.
And the type of qualities that take you to the top of being like, you know, a fortune, you know, 100 CEO or something typically makes you a little ruthless.
There's a moral ambiguity you have to have where it's like, I know that's probably what's right, but this is what gets us where we need to go.
So that's.
Yeah, I shouldn't, you know, try to coerce my intern to sleep with me, but I can.
And it's not, is it really wrong?
But like they rationalize things in their brain in like a specific way.
She wants it.
Yeah.
That's what they tell themselves.
She wants it.
And what would happen to me?
What could happen to me?
I'm so powerful that nothing can happen.
Yeah.
Right.
And they really start to believe this shit.
And that's why they're absolutely terrified by like Me Too movement and these other movements because they're like, wait a minute, my power doesn't work?
Yeah.
Usually I just quiet these people.
Usually I tell them, hey, I'm going to get you a job somewhere.
I'm going to get you a movie role.
I'm going to get you a political position.
You're going to be on someone's staff.
So you would rather be on this staff.
You have these aspirations for a political career.
Wouldn't you rather be on someone's staff than complain about me?
And it can put you there.
It goes both ways, though.
Like, that's why I don't like when people get super tight when like people criticize like historical figures.
Like they're like, oh, maybe Abraham Lincoln wasn't like a perfect guy.
I'm like, yeah, probably not.
Yeah.
Like he was, he lived so long ago.
Like he was a super powerful person.
One of the most powerful people in the world.
Like, yeah, he probably fucked up a lot and did really egregious things.
Yeah.
So like, I think that goes for anyone that's quote unquote great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like the thing is that you've got to judge greatness within a vacuum, right?
Like we're judging like the athletic greatness within a vacuum.
Like there are athletes that probably were pieces of shit, maybe neglected their families, weren't great husbands, but they still average a fucking triple-double one season.
Then, oh my God.
Okay, that was a great season.
You don't become a less good basketball player because the shit you did outside your life.
And Abraham Lincoln doesn't become a less good politician because of the things he did in his personal lives or the way that he treated people, et cetera.
You also need to judge those figures based on the time they lived in.
Yes, that's also an important component.
Yeah.
100%.
But there's just overreactiveness when people say, when people look, especially at like American history, even current politicians where they're like, oh, he's perfect.
He's great.
That people that especially feel victimized by the things that they did do, whether it's like racist, sexist, homophobic, then they'll come out and be like, no, he's actually the worst.
It's like, he's not the worst and he's not the best.
He's just a human being that did good things and also fucked up.
Now, as far as Cuomo goes, you can look at the good stuff he did, be like, all right.
And then also, you know, punish him and shit on for the fucked up things.
You're a product of your time.
You're a product of your culture.
But I'm never surprised when great men do fucked up things.
I'm like, yeah, you're going to abuse your power.
That's what, that's why you want to power.
It's not about like a great man thing.
It's just like man does fucked up shit.
Man, woman does fucked up shit.
Great men have a spotlight.
Great men have a ledger.
People are remembering it.
Everything you do as a great man gets minted to the blockchain.
Okay.
So every single thing in George Washington's life, once he became that dude, becomes important.
Oh, he chopped down a cherry tree.
I don't even know if that was him.
You know what I'm saying?
It was him, right?
It's like, how many motherfuckers chopped down a cherry tree?
You didn't know that.
You don't know what the fuck you did in your backyard.
Nobody knows until you become great.
And then all of a sudden, that story about you in high school.
One time in high school, he actually, you know, helped this person with a wheelchair across the street.
Now that's part of your story.
You're the wheelchair helping guy.
And there's also something to power corrupts and absolute power corrupts.
Absolutely.
Like, a lot of those guys are wired that way.
But also, if you're just a regular guy who gets power, you can still probably go that way pretty easily.