Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Prince Harry's First Amendment critiques, Chrissy Teigen's alleged bullying of a teen, and the Israel-Palestine conflict. They analyze how extremist religious claims on both sides hinder peace, comparing modern territorial disputes to American Manifest Destiny and the partition of India. While acknowledging Hamas's terrorism and Israeli settlement provocations, they argue that moderate voices are drowned out by divine-right narratives, suggesting the war stems from unyielding theological entitlement rather than simple politics. [Automatically generated summary]
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Vision Fading Fast00:10:02
Big announcement.
Big, big, big.
Aggressive feminist men.
That's who we are.
All this shit getting cut.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flagrant 2.
I'm going blind.
This is a concern of mine.
It's been a concern of mine for the last couple weeks.
I haven't really spoken about it at all because I thought it would go back to normal.
I blink.
I rub my eyes a lot.
It doesn't go back to normal.
Like, I'm looking at the topics that are on the TV right now.
Yeah.
Everything there is blurry.
Yeah.
And you know, the crazy thing is, as I get closer, it doesn't stop being blurry.
And then I do one eye and I do the other eye, blurry in both eyes.
And it's the type of blurry that's really weird.
There's like multiple versions of the letters.
So there's the letters, I see the main ones.
Then I see a little one behind it above and a little one behind it below.
What?
I'm not even funny.
This is concerning.
No, I lose my fucking sight, dude.
I think he just needs glasses.
Am I crazy?
No.
I haven't needed glasses, but I don't know.
Gotta go with the LASIK.
I gotta go with LASIK, but I don't know if I can get LASIK for that.
So I haven't had vision issues.
You have.
You got glasses on right now.
Is that just you need glasses?
That's all I'm thinking.
I'm dismissing this because I'm like...
Yeah, Al doesn't need glasses.
I'm a fraud.
How does the one guy in the five guys doesn't need glasses wear glasses?
I'm not losing my vision, bro.
No, you just need glasses.
I'm not doing it.
Give him your glasses, bro.
Give him your glasses, bro.
You want to see better?
Give me a black glass.
You want to see better, son.
Give me that glasses.
Give me those glasses right now.
Let's see.
Shit.
Hold on.
You almost pulled yourself a hole.
Hold on.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Let's go.
I'm not attracted to black women no more.
This credit, the second I put on these bifocals, black women went to the waist.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye, bitch.
Bye.
Oh, my God, bro.
This is crazy.
Even looking at Mark's ass is smaller.
This is dumb.
Take them off.
Oh, shit.
Al, you got to stop using these glasses, bro.
It's totally changing you.
Maybe without these glasses, we get back to normal Al.
What's not 90s out?
I'm just saying, 90s out.
You appreciate it to find a thing.
This is like a dignified.
This is like a librarian Al.
Real talk.
Without these, you appreciate the ebony, but you put these on and it's ivory all day.
Dog, look at this.
Real, this is.
Yo, those are like those colorblinds.
Guys, there's a black guy in the room on the equipment.
Is he stealing the equipment?
I think he's trying to steal the equipment.
Bro, we got to make that video out.
Oh, God.
Oh, it's just Alex.
It's just Alex media.
You got racist bifocals.
That's Alex 2X's.
That's Alex 1X.
This is Alex 1X.
It's like the colorblind video where you put on the kids.
Yeah, but I start crying because there's minorities in the room.
They're taking over.
You got to get those to Miles.
Opposite Miles glasses.
You put them on, you only see one color.
That's black as shit.
Exactly.
This is really scary, Al.
I don't want to do this anymore.
Come on, put them on backwards.
I don't.
Oh, okay.
Wait, like that.
You can't do it like that.
That's how the black people would do it.
Like, upside down?
Yeah.
Like, what happens?
I put them on upside down.
Oh, guys.
What is it?
It looks exactly funny.
I don't know, but like, I don't know why, but I think I'm starting to feel like beating up random Asian people.
Am I turning black?
Am I turning black?
Yeah, you're black.
You're not turning black.
You might be good with the Asians.
You go with the Asian.
We go.
Asian's about this close to being like, it's just black people beating us up.
Can y'all stop?
Can y'all, we was trying to identify with y'all, okay?
We understood what it was to be victims, but y'all will start beating us up at the fucking bus stop.
Sorry about the corner stores.
I didn't know you're going to take that.
Sorry, we followed y'all around.
Sorry, we followed y'all around.
As if we could catch y'all anyway.
Y'all get there too fast.
I said we got time to shut up the story.
Wait a minute.
Oh, shit.
All right.
That was scary, right?
Oh, my God.
That was fucking terrible.
Dude, I.
Oh, bro.
Almost blacked out, bro.
Honestly, I wouldn't try those on, bro.
Yeah.
I wouldn't try those on if I were you.
Al, you got racist bifocals, man.
I need to.
Oh, you know who invented bifocals?
Who?
Scottish people.
Hitler, I think.
No, Hitler did invent bifocals.
Ben Franklin, I'm pretty sure.
Ben Franklin invented bifocals.
And there was also Monofocal.
I'm all about the Benjamins, baby.
Let's go.
Second he put him back on, he found the whitest rap bar.
Dropped it.
I'm like Thomas.
I am all about the Benjamins, baby.
Hi, my name is.
All right, man.
So what are you going to do?
What are you going to do now you're blind?
I know.
Once we go back to New York, I'm going to go get my eyes checked.
This happened to me once before.
And I think some bitch said I had astigmatism or something like that.
I went to a.
I was thinking.
But I went to a ghetto-ass eye place.
It was in the back of the black.
It was in the back of a.
It was in the back of a sunglasses hut.
You know what I mean?
And then they just put your face.
It sounded pretty black, to be honest.
It was pretty black.
You went to a hut, bro.
I went to a hut.
I literally went to a hut.
I was in an actual hut.
So which doctor?
It wasn't good.
It wasn't good at all.
So I went to the back.
They put you on that machine.
It looks like the submarine thing.
You're looking through the Empire State Building shit.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And then she's like, you have to put quarters in it to make it work.
I did.
That's how ghetto it was.
She was like, if you want to see it, you have to put some change in the shit.
I was like, all right, bitch.
And then they try to sell you sunglasses.
I can't trust her.
Yeah.
Like, they're selling the glasses.
Yeah.
So I'm like, I don't trust.
And I went to just a straight up, you know, eye doctor.
Right.
Jewish.
You know what I mean?
Like, this is way before everybody hated Jews.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Like, don't judge me.
This is wow.
Thousands of years ago?
You and BC times, bro.
How'd you get a timer sheet when you can't fix your eyes, bro?
This shit is before year zero.
Ain't that crazy?
How'd you do that?
So they were hating him a little bit, not as much as this is before the Hadids.
This is before Bella and Gigi started getting real opinionated about what's going on openly, right?
So I went and then the dude was like, nah, bro, you're just looking at your phone too much and it's causing your eyes to blur.
So you need to not look at your phone that much and start looking at shit far away.
That's why you turn that shit sideways, I bet.
Damn, right?
You were like, yo, let me look a little less bad.
That was good.
I got it.
I got it.
That's fucking good, dog.
Quick out there, boy.
You think it's the same issue?
You think you're looking at your phone too much?
I think so.
Like, I'll look at how many hours a day I spend on my phone, you know, when Steve, whatever his name is not Steve Jobs.
What's the gay guy's name?
Tim Cooks.
Tim Cook.
Yeah.
Tim Cook wants to tell you how much of a degenerate you are, piece of shit.
It's like, I know I'm on my phone, motherfucker.
I don't need to know the exact hours.
Yeah.
And it will be like, you're down 14%.
You're only on your phone eight hours a day.
I'm like, holy shit.
All right.
Let me chill at this though.
So you might see, you might see me with the old man font coming up.
So you're not going to get off your phone.
I'm not off my phone.
I just got to find a way to look at the phone.
I need to get some glasses so I can look at it.
Here's the thing.
Y'all got mad concerned when he said, I think I'm going blind.
And I was like, hold on.
Let's hear the Andrew actual what's happening.
I mean, I need these glasses.
I need glasses.
Ain't that going blind?
You don't need glasses.
You can see better.
You guys are all like, oh, I'm concerned.
Get glasses.
It's not a big deal.
Go to Lenscrafters.
Nah, no.
It's not a disease if you go to Lenscraft.
You can't go to Lenscrafters, bro.
They want to sell you glasses.
It's a hustle.
Motherfucker, God wants to sell you glasses.
Hey, Lenscrafters is God.
Yeah, I guess that is a good point.
All right.
Well, fuck it.
I don't know.
What if this is God?
What if this is God?
Maybe we've spoken about this on the podcast before.
But what if this is God?
What do you mean?
Like, what if...
She blind?
Yeah, you're supposed to lose your vision a little bit.
You know what I mean?
Like, I already think my girl's amazingly beautiful right now.
So imagine how much more if I can't see her that good.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if you're already this incredibly beautiful, right?
And I start getting fuzzy around the edges, I'm not going to notice you getting old.
It's like God, God's jumping in before I can see wrinkles or any of that kind of shit.
So God's going to take your vision to keep you from getting a divorce.
There we go.
God's like, oh, you think she's fine now?
Wait up.
Keep your vision and half your money.
Gotcha.
You got it.
I'm rich.
I'm rich in all aspects of life because of God.
God don't want me to see shit.
But everyone's getting lay sick and what happens?
Well, then you got to get Botox.
I told my girl.
I told my girl.
I was like, if I get these motherfuckers fixed, we all got to get some shit fixed.
I'm going to get rid of my crow's feet unless your vision goes.
What if I get some, what if I get some bifocals that make my girl see me shittier?
Oh, what if her vision's too pristine?
She's looking at me like, oh, you're age.
You got freckles, all this shit.
Like the sun's bottom.
You got to let your wife's vision go.
What is this 2020?
You got to let her vision go.
Rather both going blind or we're both getting preserved.
That's it.
We have to make a choice.
Every relationship, you have to make a choice.
Do we get tox?
Do we start going under the knife?
Do we keep this shit going?
Or do we drop that vision to 60-20 and say fucking on the highway?
Like, that's really what it's about.
Yes or no?
You're right.
Just get a Tesla, though.
Get a Tesla, dries for yourself.
You're good.
That's perfect.
You got your eyes fixed.
You happier or sadder?
A little sadder.
A little sadder, bro.
That's why I miss it so much.
I got to wear fake glasses.
The reason is then the white girls, those were the only ones he could see at night.
They're glowing.
They literally glow.
He couldn't see any women.
But the whites are like, oh, there's one.
I can fit.
Okay, I got that one.
And then he goes and gets it.
This is practical.
I think this is practical.
I think this is God intervening, trying to make us happy, trying to, you know, add some level of consistency to our life as things change.
As we, you know.
It is interesting.
The divorce rate has gone up as vision has gotten better over time.
I bet the first divorce is right after bifocals.
Cousin on Spectrum00:10:15
Why do you think they only had one focal?
Remember the.
Oh, the monocle.
This one was for your wife, and this one was for Reed.
Exactly.
That's why the pirates had the pet.
So I got to look at this bitch ever.
I'm going to save this one.
I'm going to save this one for my wife.
Or no, I'm going to save this one for the sea.
Whatever the fuck it is.
Pirate?
What?
We're talking about pirates for monopoly.
No, pirates.
There's no monocle.
No, first monocles.
You know, but then also pirates.
You're out in the streets.
We're talking about a lot of one-eyed motherfuckers.
Cyclops?
Cyclops is gay.
You know what I mean?
Like, those motherfuckers love dicks.
You know, they really did.
Yo, imagine how easy it is to take out a cyclops.
You just poke that big motherfucker in the eye and then run away.
There's nothing he could do, dog.
I always thought that.
Nothing he could do.
Throw some sand in his eye.
Yeah, he's got no depth perception either.
Oh, dummy.
He got no depth perception.
No depth perception.
Any stooge, three stooges could take you out.
Bop.
That's it.
Yeah.
What do you need?
Depth.
That word is hard, bro.
That's a tough word.
When you say it like that, it sounds so smart.
Say it.
Say it.
Depth.
Perception.
Perception.
Depth.
Perception.
That's actually a little bit retarded when you get that out.
Johnny Depp's name was Johnny Depp.
He never makes it.
We don't even know what Pirates of the Caribbean is if Johnny Depp is Johnny Depp.
Yo, real talk.
Depth, that word is impossible to say that word and then, I mean, for lack of a better word, not think that you're retarded fundamentally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, fundamentally retarded.
No.
Also, fundamentally.
Can we talk about this really quick?
The fact that you didn't know what Down syndrome was?
Come on, Ashburgers.
Okay, this is a serious conversation, all right?
No, no.
Ask the people at home first.
I think we should ask the people at the time.
See the results?
Last episode, we talked about this, and everyone was like, oh, yeah, you're being so silly.
That's such a goofy thing.
And then this weekend, we're doing the show, and he's trying to do a joke about it.
And it's like, it's like hidden, but like the audience is like not positive.
He's a joke.
What's he saying?
He's just talking about.
I didn't know that Down syndrome, those people were called retards, retards.
I thought Down syndrome people are Down syndrome.
We call them cousins because they all look similar.
When I was younger, you just called him the cousins, right?
So I still think he's joking about this.
I know.
No, we called him the cousins.
That's the cousins, right?
And I thought they were their own thing.
Like, I would never call them.
That's the least racist term.
Say they all look the same about cousins?
That's actually.
They look cousin-ish.
They look cousin-ish.
They all look the same.
They look cousin-ish.
Guess words.
So I thought they were the cousins.
I would never call one of them retarded.
That's cruel.
They're sweet little kids, you know, always smiling, laughing, happy.
Loving life.
Right.
So when Elon Musk came out as retarded or on the spectrum of retarded, I was like, this is fucked up.
Like, you can't be this successful and call yourself retarded.
And then everybody's like, looking at me like, I'm like, why are you...
In something about Mary, what do you think that kid was?
What is the kid?
Was he a cousin or was he?
What'd you think he was?
Was he a cousin or no?
Did he look like a cousin?
What cousin is?
No, no.
Like, was he literally played by a cousin?
No.
No.
No, but they played a cousin.
Was it a...
Have you seen my baseball?
You remember that guy?
But he's not a cousin.
I need to see a picture of him.
They have a similar look.
If you don't acknowledge that they have a similar look.
If you don't acknowledge they have a similar look, then you're not.
I have bad vision.
I can say they all look similar.
Right?
So if the actor, because there are actors that are part of the cousins, but they are able, they're high-functioning enough to like play roles.
And then there are actors that are not part of the cousins, but they sound like the cousins, like the guy from Breaking Bad.
Look at this picture.
That's not a cousin, dude.
That's Shane Gillis.
That's Shane.
Shane, that's Shane's first major breakthrough.
Like before SNL, he played a cousin on something about Mary.
But that's not a cousin.
Do you guys understand what I'm saying or no?
So it's crazy because he's being honest.
I think if you call a cousin retarded, you are cruel, bro.
That's cruel, bro.
That's cruel.
But if you call someone who looks just like you, dresses just like you, you think they're you, and then they're just doing some wild shit out of nowhere.
And if you're, and you're like, yo, is he retarded though?
Like, like genuine, like, you're not trying to insult them.
You're like, yo, is your man's retarded?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if it's a serious question, like, yo, is your man's retarded?
Then that's fine.
I don't think that's offensive because you're trying to understand why he's not acting regular, why he's acting retarded.
And maybe the answer is he's fucking retarded.
I don't even get why Mark's laughing.
Like, this all makes sense.
Yes.
I'm so confused.
You don't have a short bus in school.
We did.
We did, but they were my friends.
I had friends on that bus.
I had friend Loront from the Jerk Your Meat.
He was retarded, bro.
He was a little retarded, bro.
Like, he had a class.
He's a short bus.
Yo, he was in a special class.
They removed him from our class.
There was too much information for him or something.
And he would go.
He would talk to a counselor.
You called those kids special and we called them also retarded.
No, we didn't call them special.
We called them dumb.
That's a dumb thing.
He wasn't dumb.
They're not dumb.
They're not dumb.
They're just retarded.
This is different.
Dumb is you have everything that we have and then you can't put some intelligence out there in the world.
Some people are retarded.
If you're dyslexic, you're retarded.
Right?
Like, dyslexic is.
It's just the lower level.
Exactly.
If you're dyslexic, you can't read.
You can't read.
That's retarded, right?
There's levels to it.
There's levels to shit.
If you got, if you have like a web fingers, that's retarded.
Right?
Like, there's a little thing.
You're pigeon-toed.
Boom.
One eye is a little weird.
If you're cockeyed, you're retarded.
We would call that retarded.
Yeah.
So, those are more physical retardations.
We were using one word for a large group of people.
That's what people did back in the day.
We didn't understand all these little things.
Do you look normal and then you act a little weird?
That's retarded, right?
That's just what it is, bro.
Yeah.
We had a Russian kid that didn't put on deodorant.
We thought he was retarded for three months.
We thought he was retarded for three months.
This kid, Henry, we didn't know.
He didn't speak English and he didn't wear deodorant.
So we're like, okay, he's fucking retarded.
And then he learned English and then we told him to put on deodorant and he was the smartest, most normal kid.
He ended up working for a bank.
We thought he was a retard for the broken.
He's not retarded.
You can get your work your way out of retarded.
Retard is just a word that we used when we didn't understand you.
Is that fair?
Is that fair to say that's accurate?
Son, that's just what people did.
All New Yorkers would agree with you.
Is this actually how it was in school?
I'm actually underplaying it a little bit.
It would be a little bit more.
It would be a little bit more.
We went to public school, bro.
They throw 1,200 kids in fucking two grades.
That just got to make sense to the world.
There were more retards than normals in the class.
There were so many that slipped by.
90% retards, actually, now that I think about it, had to be.
So many slip by.
I would have a kid, he would just go to the bathroom whenever he wanted.
He didn't ask the teacher.
He'd just get up in the middle of class and he'd just start walking to the bathroom.
The teacher'd be like, Samuel, where are you going?
Where are you going?
He goes, I'm going to the bathroom.
And then she's like, you didn't ask permission.
He'd just walk out the door.
And within like two months of doing that, he just didn't have to ask permission to walk out of the classroom anyway.
Wait, can you tell us at the special kid or whatever you called him?
The cousin that wasn't a cousin.
What part of what don't you understand?
What part of no?
What is it?
What part of no sorry?
Talk about Patreon once.
Shout out.
What part of no, no talking?
Oh, no, no.
What part of Be Quiet do you?
Oh, yeah.
We had a kid that was not a cousin.
Okay.
Now I understand that as being on the spectrum.
And in the moment, I didn't understand that.
But now I understand as being on the spectrum.
He's definitely on the spectrum.
He was an autist.
He was an autist.
Yeah.
So he would have his different things.
He couldn't go outside.
If it was dark, he couldn't do it.
You know, he'd freak out in the dark.
And he was.
If you turned off the lights, the kid would run right through all the desks.
He wouldn't move his desk out of his way.
He would slide his chair back and then start running straight.
It was a video game character.
You ever seen a video game character run into a wall and just keep on running into the wall?
He would do that to desks, dude.
Like, boom, like just run through the desks.
It was unbelievable.
Plow straight through, right?
And if you turned off the lights, so like anytime a teacher wanted to do like a cool experiment or something like that, they want to heighten the tension.
They didn't realize that he had this like dark thing.
We all did, but we didn't say anything.
So like the teacher would turn off the lights and then the fucking kid would start plowing through the class like a wilder beast, bro.
And it would scare the shit out of the teacher, dude.
Like sometimes you have a substitute, they roll in the TV, right?
They're like, yeah, we're just going to watch a movie during class.
And all of us are sitting there like, oh, we are going to watch a movie.
This is a fun one.
We're watching Lion King, bro.
We're falsely not making it out of this one.
So he would just run through the whole thing.
We didn't understand there was a spectrum because the kid was really fucking smart, but he was also, you know, in the dark, he would run, right?
So yeah, it was a little wild.
It was a little wild.
So, yeah, so wait, oh, yeah.
So one time he just kept doing shit in class.
I'd forget what he was doing, but he just kept talking out.
And this teacher goes, he goes, what?
What part of be quiet do you not understand?
This motherfucker took one beat and just went, the bee.
It's so good.
What a good answer.
So this teacher, bro, this teacher, this teacher was perplexed, bro.
This bitch got stopped in her tracks.
He stopped this bitch in her tracks, bro, because she was looking at him.
And again, this was a different time, but she was looking at him as if he was retarded, right?
So she wasn't expecting such a witty, quick response.
And then obviously now we understand that he wasn't retarded.
You know, he just had his little things.
CBD Kushy Dreams00:04:19
Yeah.
So boom, he hits her back with that.
And then she just could say nothing.
She just sat there.
She was fucking silent.
She would be quiet.
You.
That's what he should have said.
Be quiet.
You.
She understood the B real quick.
She understood the fuck out of that B.
Oh, it's such a good answer, dude.
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, people, they don't have any understanding for us.
What we went through is like we were in school.
Nobody gave us any information about mental illness or anything.
They didn't invent all these terms.
They just put a helmet on a kid and sat him in advanced algebra.
Right.
You didn't know one kid with autism?
I knew many now that I can't make it anyway.
But I didn't know that they had a lot of people.
But at the time, how old were you?
When you heard the word autism, how old are you?
Autism is in cousins.
Autism is you and me.
They look just like you and me.
You were at Starbucks or online.
You would never know.
They call out the order and they do a backflip in the middle of the fucking class.
That's autism, right?
That's different.
That is it not.
Yo, it's not.
Oh, God.
My God, Don.
Lizzie.
You got to pull your side out a little bit more, Akash, and then lean it back.
Good.
Yeah.
Now lean it back.
So did you not understand why people were trying to take the word retard out of vocabulary?
If now that I know that they were calling the cousins retards, I'm like, Jesus, what's wrong with people?
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We're 30 minutes in.
I was supposed to announce this right off the jump.
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Big, big, big, big announcement, okay?
Big tour.
We won.
We beat COVID.
Okay.
We beat COVID.
The victory is ours.
It's time to celebrate.
And how are we going to do that?
We're going on fucking tour.
Okay.
For all y'all.
Big venues, Al.
Big, stopper.
Big.
Turn the lights off so I can run through the fucking camera, Al.
It's big.
We're going.
Ba-ba-ba-big.
Big tour.
The infamous tour coming through.
Mad cities.
Tickets go on sale Friday, 10 a.m.
Okay.
I'm looking right at you.
Friday, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Get these fucking tickets.
Don't let these scalpers beat you and then hit you over the head for fucking hundreds and hundreds and thousands of fucking dollars.
Okay.
I see what this happens.
Go immediately.
DandrewScholles.com.
Get those fucking tickets Friday.
Friday, 10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
All the cities that we're going to, I'm going to tell you real quick.
Obviously, we still got some shows left as we prepare for the tour.
But August 13th, Dallas, Texas, baby.
The 14th, Houston, Texas.
The 18th, Tucson, Arizona.
The 20th and 21st, Los Angeles, California.
This is big news.
I was going to film my special there in Los Angeles, California.
Two pieces of news right here.
Some good news, some bad news.
Some bad news.
I'm not filming the special in Los Angeles, California, because I can't trust your fucking government to keep places open.
I can't trust them to not do masks.
I can't trust them to not limit occupancy.
I cannot trust that they're going to actually be open.
If we don't book a venue now, then we won't be able to film this special until the next year.
It's going to be too crazy.
So we had to move the special out of California because of your fucked all of a governor, Gavin Newsome.
Blame it on him.
I'm very upset.
But the good news is that's more seats for our shows there.
We're still coming, baby.
We're still coming to do it.
So more seats available.
Those are sold out.
Now we're adding more seats.
Go get those as well.
Oklahoma City, Detroit, Michigan, Milwaukee, San Diego, Austin.
That's where we're filming the special.
Louisville, Kentucky, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington, D.C., Madison, Chicago, Minneapolis, Fargo, and Boston for New Year's.
Go there.
Go get the tickets right now.
Yeah, the Austin shows.
We're going to film the special there.
That's going to be fucking wild.
So pull up to that.
God bless you.
We love you.
We appreciate you.
And go get those tickets right now.
Okay.
Big tour.
The infamous tour.
We out here, baby.
Okay.
Schultze, Mark Gagnon.
I think Akash is going to pull up to some dates.
We're going to have some extra.
You know, we're going to have some special guests we'll talk to you about.
Alex Media is going to be there.
The Truffle, we're going to get him.
We're going to get him there if he hasn't left us.
If he hasn't gone back to Israel to fight in the incoming holy war, yeah, I'm just, it's gonna be wild, man.
It might be some musical guests.
You never know what could happen.
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That's all I'm saying.
You never know what the fuck could happen at the infamous tour.
I'm so excited to get back into these big fucking venues, have people rammed up against one another, yelling, screaming, cheering.
It's just going to be just glorious right as the country opens up.
This is going to be the fucking craziest fucking thing.
It's going to be a wild fucking summer.
And I'm excited to be on tour with y'all and have you all come out, bring your friends, bring the homies, ladies, bring the ladies out, couples.
I mean, let's just fucking do this.
We all want to party.
We all want to get back into it.
And oh, yeah, I can't even say anything else.
I can't let anything else out, but it's going to be fun.
Put it that way.
Pack it to the gills.
Let's do it.
Let's pack it.
Okay, I meant to say that in the beginning, but then we got a little bit derailed.
I'm in Miami Wednesday, tomorrow.
Oh, shit.
Thursday.
All right.
Listen, man.
If we're doing announcements.
Announcement.
Hey.
Something was filmed at WTF Studios this past.
What film?
What was film?
Oh, no, just a lot of podcasts and some like, you know, discussions and stuff like that.
Yeah, discussion talks.
But yeah, if you want to film your podcast at WTF Media Studios, go to WTF MediaStudios.com.
What else we got?
CDC drops a mask mandate.
We kind of knew it.
It's like a fake mask mandate drop, right?
Actually, you know what?
This is interesting.
The CDC drops the mask mandate, and I will say this.
For vaccinated people, for vaccinated people, it has completely changed my behavior.
Yep.
You're more brazen now, right?
In the airport, no mask.
Really?
And then you just go, oh, I thought we didn't have to wear a mask.
We're vaccinated.
Like, you have an excuse when you get stopped for not wearing the mask, and then you're not a Karen.
You're like, I'm doing what the CDC.
Did you get caught?
I got asked.
I think in Florida, they're going to let you rock.
Some places, yeah.
Some places they just cut it out immediately.
The airports are federal.
They're still under mask mandates.
Who is not under a mask mandate?
Well, any private business is allowed to have a mask mandate.
You have to respect right.
But like statewide, are there any states that are like, no, we're good?
So the CDC thing.
You're not on Mike.
Yeah, I think California still has their state mask mandate for everyone, pretty much.
Yeah, so the CDC thing is just a suggestion.
The CDC doesn't make laws or guidelines or anything.
They just tell governments, hey, you guys maybe should have mask mandates.
That's what they did in the beginning.
And the government's responded.
And now the CDC is like, yo, we don't think you should have mask mandate if you're vaccinated.
And now the dominoes are going to fall depending on the suggestion of the CDC.
But they actually don't make any laws.
And there are like states like California or like federal, any federal building is still under a mask mandate.
So that's like where it's all going to be.
But now the private businesses sort of have a reason why they might stop doing the mask thing because the CDC said it.
And then the OSHA, who like is in charge of a lot of businesses and things like that, will slowly lax their thing.
And then businesses will allow it to happen if they're sort of a larger corporation.
But small businesses can or cannot have mask mandates if they want them to.
I almost fell asleep, bro.
That was long, bro.
I thought I was the only one.
I was versus a dove.
I was the only one who was like, I stopped listening early into this.
Jesus, Miles.
My eyes started to glaze over.
Miles, what the fuck just happened right there, dude?
Like Andrew?
Miles, what happened just right there, dog?
I thought the CDC was federal.
What is the CDC?
It's just, they make suggestions.
They don't pass laws.
So what the fuck they've been talking about this whole time?
I thought whatever they say, we do.
But that's the thing.
Biden came out and said you don't have to wear masks.
Biden said, I don't have to wear a mask.
It's a federal thing.
Yes.
Biden said, I don't have to wear a mask.
But he didn't drop the federal mask mandate.
And most states already didn't have a statewide mask mandate.
Yeah.
Just like it was suggested, and people just went along with it.
How about this?
If you're a private business, unless the private business says, wear a mask, then do it or don't go in there.
I'm not doing it.
That's what's going to cost me.
I'm not doing it until they ask me to put it on.
Then I will.
Every time I go into Uber right now, I let them know.
I'm going to stand.
Say what?
I take it a wheel stand, bro.
I'm not doing it.
I'm not.
I'm laughing.
I'm not doing it less than that.
Until you ask me, and then I'll comply immediately.
But I'm not doing it.
But when I go into Ubers right now, I go, yo, by the way, if you don't want to wear a mask, it's all good.
I'm vaccinated.
I never say that they don't have to, and I'm willing to, but I just throw it out there.
Every single Uber driver is vaccinated.
So they're just like, oh, thank God, blah, blah, blah.
So this shit is about to be over.
Dude, once you got the vaccine, the masks start seeming so like fucking restrictive.
I just hate it after that.
It's so stupid.
It's just like a muzzle.
It's like, yeah, get the shit off of me, bro.
Yeah, dude.
It's stupid.
You guys aren't vaccinated.
You're not vaccinated?
No.
Mark, you're not vaccinated?
You're getting vaxed?
Only if I'm forced.
Yeah.
What if it just makes everything easier, travel-wise?
It's no different for me right now.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll do it once it becomes inconvenient.
Yeah, I found it.
The only reason I'm doing it is because I want to travel.
Yeah, but they haven't had any restrictions on people not vaxxed yet.
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So right now.
I thought they're opening it up to non-vax.
I thought that was the issue.
Opening what up?
Like opening up travel to people who are vaxed.
Yeah.
I think that's coming.
Yeah, I don't know.
When that comes, I'll get it.
Because right now, like most places, you can just walk right in.
You don't have to do it.
But that's the thing.
It takes a month total.
That's why I got out of the way because it was like the second I'm going to want to travel.
Now I got to wait a month.
Yeah.
Well, I don't suggest this to anybody, but I might Photoshop something.
They don't have a database, though.
It's like.
All right.
He can survive the worst Corona out of all of us.
Mark got it twice, but he got the worst case.
Yeah.
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What else we got?
Did we talk about J. Cole already?
The Prince Harriet thing.
Did you see the J. Cole video?
We're back in the middle.
This guy is stupid.
We're going to get to the Prince Harry thing, but did you see the J. Cole video?
Yeah, him hitting the free throw.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about it?
Yeah, we can.
If you guys want.
I mean, it's cool.
All right.
So we got J. Cole playing African basketball or whatever.
J. Cole had a week, huh?
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Playing African basketball.
Yeah, he's playing African.
He's in Rwanda, bro.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, it's funny.
He's playing African basketball.
Isn't it all?
Isn't it all African basketball?
Playing it all kind of.
Yeah, I guess it is.
But you play, you say European basketball.
People go, oh, yeah, I mean, it's European basketball.
It's different.
Why is African basketball worse than European basketball?
Nah, they usually say playing overseas.
I never heard somebody say European.
Yeah, I've never heard anybody say playing basketball.
Huh?
Europe.
Euro League.
He's playing in Europe, but it's never called European basketball.
Yeah.
No, it's not.
It's never called this one.
It's never called that Chinese basketball.
They're playing Chinese basketball.
It sounds like a different game.
It's playing a way more fun games.
Yeah, it's like when you say if somebody's playing checkers in China, they're not playing Chinese checkers.
Unless they are playing Chinese Chinese, then that'd be a different game.
I don't know which game he's playing.
I saw a small excerpt, so he could be playing African basketball.
No, he was playing, he was playing regular basketball with Africans.
This guy's trying to hot cut your situation.
Let's go.
Exactly.
Keep going, bro.
Get yourself out of this shit.
Get yourself out of this shit.
Bro, the rules are easy.
Yeah.
Which are score score in the hoop.
Yeah.
Score, score.
Avoid the mosquitoes, score in the hoops.
Exactly.
Now, the nets, are those malaria nets?
Bill Gates gave them.
What a waste of nets.
What a monumental waste of nets.
The African basketball league.
Truly.
Put those nets to good use.
Protect the people.
Oh, talking about Gates.
What about the Melinda Gates smear campaign continues on Bill?
This bitch is rotten.
This bitch is rotten.
Is she rotten for him just like cheating relentlessly?
He didn't cheat relentlessly.
He asked a couple of hoes out after over email.
They said no.
He was like, all right, fine.
Yeah.
He legit asked him out once.
They said no, and then he didn't ask again.
And what their business meetings.
Say what?
And that's how you know.
They were like business meetings.
But you're not supposed to.
Yeah, I guess maybe he's a different.
He comes from a different generation where you could fuck your employees.
That's how she got on.
Yeah.
He's an employee.
She was an employee.
That's another thing she got to realize.
Apparently, she was upset that there wasn't like equality in their relationship.
Bitch.
And it's like, yeah, he saw you as like, you know, his employee, and then you became his wife.
And he was like, oh, we're going to keep that.
Richest man in the world.
Yeah.
You want equality?
Marry a fucking supervisor of Staples.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not getting equality from the richest man.
Actually, she's just not strong enough.
Because Megan Markle flipped that shit.
Megan Markle was opening up boxes on that show.
What's that show called?
Guess the box.
Greatest come up.
No, it's good.
Deal or no deal.
What's in the deal or no deal?
What's in a box?
Deal or no deal.
What's that?
That's seven, bro.
What's seven?
Brad Pitt.
What's oh fuck, yeah.
That movie was lit.
The wife's head.
Yeah.
I've never seen it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
You never see it.
I would love that movie, actually.
It was absolutely amazing.
And then Brad Pitch is cursing.
No, fuck.
No.
Yeah.
There's an alternate ending on YouTube.
That whole scene plays out.
And then he goes, well, it's in the box.
And Morgan Freeman looks at the box and looks up.
And then you just hear the Kirby Enthusiasm credits.
And it's so fucking funny.
That's great.
But yeah, that's what she did.
She used to open boxes.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, people would say like 250, and maybe they guessed her box.
And then she would open her box.
And that was her job.
That's the greatest come up in the world.
Yeah, that was her job.
And then she married the Prince of England.
Yeah.
Right?
Well, she became a fake lawyer.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then she became the fake lawyer.
She got married, got divorced.
She got married another person.
She was married before.
To whom?
A manager named Trevor Engelson.
Do you know him?
Because my old manager was cool with him.
And then that's just such a funny flip that they were divorced, and he was like out there getting it, thinking he's just fucking living his best life.
And she married fucking royalty.
Yep, but he also traded up.
Oh, what'd he get?
He got some super rich woman.
Really?
So they both did it.
Say the name.
Say the name.
Yeah, drop it.
You can't drop it.
All right.
I just don't like him.
I don't know.
What's your guys feeling on Megan?
I feel about her exactly how I feel about the manager guy.
Which is?
Yeah, they traded up.
They traded up.
That's what they did.
They traded up, dude.
She's boss.
I don't know.
I'm like, she's just unlikable as a person, but she's right about everything she says.
Explain.
Just like the royal family sucks.
Yep.
Yeah.
Just suck that.
It's like useless, does nothing.
It's stupid.
How unlikable is she?
Yeah, you're the only person I know who doesn't like it.
Oh, have you guys heard her talk?
She's a little unlikable.
She's unlikable.
I comes across a little phony.
I mean, like, yeah.
More like Julente.
Yeah, I can see that.
Yeah, I mean, you don't think so?
Like, I don't know.
She's just kind of like too cute where it's like, I don't really listen to it.
Yeah, that's how you know she's really unlikable.
Like, she's hot.
Yeah.
And she's still unlikable.
Usually, if you're hot, it's like, okay, I can put up with all this.
But even that, she's just kind of like annoying.
But she's right about everything.
Like, it's rare that you agree with somebody and you're annoyed by them.
But yeah, she's right.
The family sucks, dude.
Like, existing within that family, it sucks.
Everybody in that family looks absolutely miserable.
They're just parakeets, dude.
That's all they are.
They're just human parakeets.
They're just inside the cage and they must stay in the cage and act accordingly.
Isn't it funny that as soon as he got to a country where you're allowed to say what you want, he was bunkers.
Yeah.
Put this shit to an end.
He did.
It's so true.
This is the first time.
That's the problem, actually.
It's too much freedom of speech all of a sudden.
Yeah.
He just hopped from everything is controlled to say whatever you want.
And he's like, yo, this is wild.
He didn't know what's going on.
I'm not ready for this.
He jumped in the deep end.
But it completely makes sense from his perspective.
Like, he's royalty.
Yeah.
And the idea of your citizens being able to say whatever they want about you threatens your position of power.
Yeah.
His perspective, it's like, this is crazy.
Like, I've lived my whole life in this ivory tower and people talk shit about me and it sucks and they spread lies and they ruin my life.
And it's the worst.
But he's never been the regular person who benefited from freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech doesn't really benefit the elite people.
People in power.
Yeah, it benefits the average person.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't know because he used to empower the average person.
Did we set up this topic?
Because we tried it six times that on Dak Shepard's podcast, Prince Harry said the First Amendment is bunkers.
Yeah.
Those are his exact words.
So that's what we're referring to right now.
I don't understand why, and this fucking enrages me, but like, I don't understand why he has an opinion about America.
Like, you just get.
Because he's allowed to, because he's in America.
There's too much freedom for him.
He shouldn't have freedom of speech.
That's bonkers.
That's bonkers that you come to our house and then you walk around with your fucking shoes on and do whatever the hell you want and start telling me how what my glassware looks like and what the fucking paintings on the wall are and you start criticizing what's going on.
I understand that's our culture and everybody's allowed to do it, but it fucking annoys me.
And if you have such a big problem with it, start there.
You start with you, shut your mouth, and then you just let us do our fucking thing.
Because you seem to have no problem with freedom of speech when it's opinions about America, right?
When it comes to opinions about America, yap, You did get to do an entire interview with Oprah where you had freedom of speech away from your family and talk about how they're all trapped and how you feel sorry about that.
They're racist.
How your dad said racist shit to you.
You got to say all that.
And now all of a sudden.
That wasn't that interview?
Little bunkers.
That was bonkers.
Yo, check your shit, bro.
Anybody else watch that and be like, yo, this shit is bonkers.
It was a little bonkers.
That shit is a little bunker shit.
That's fucking shit.
Watch your mouth.
That's how I feel about him.
Watch your mouth.
Like, you fled your country, you bitch.
Pussy.
You were too pussy to stand here.
The newspapers are mean to me.
Grandma.
Grandma, control the papers.
Control the papers, Grandma.
Even though they all have their Christmas party, you know, they all have their Christmas party at Buckingham Palace, right?
All them newspapers?
Yep.
Oh, so we homies.
Yep.
Oh, we homies.
But then the newspapers say whatever the fuck you want.
Get the fuck out of here, bro.
You got the internet.
You get shit said about you all the fucking time.
Nobody reads a newspaper.
Who reads a fucking newspaper anymore?
You crying about the newspaper.
Nobody reads a newspaper anymore.
The newspapers are online too, right?
They don't say nothing.
They'll make Charlie D'Amelio does a TikTok about you.
Then you're going to have a real fucking problem.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's talk about the real places.
You want to smoke, dog.
He wants to smoke.
He's coming here.
You're going to get the smoke.
You pussy, bro.
You fled your fucking country because you couldn't hang.
You couldn't hang.
You went to Santa Barbara for the good life where no one gives a fuck about you.
These motherfuckers go out to dinner in Santa Barbara and they shut down the whole restaurant.
Like they ain't people there way more rich and they're broke asses.
They're rich people in Santa Barbara go to the restaurant, they pull up and they're like, oh, I'm sorry, it's closed for Megan and the redhead.
And then you're like, what?
The what?
The prince is not even going to be king?
Like, that's the type of arrogance that bothers people.
The prince is not even going to be king.
Not even going to be a prince.
Not even gonna be prince.
The motherfucker ain't even a prince no more, dog.
Yeah, all right.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Now, would you have him on the pot?
In a second.
I have him pot to say, but I tell him to his face, he's pussy.
You're pussy, bro.
You ran.
If you stayed there and you just like, nah, we're not part of the family anymore, but we're living it up in London.
We're going to have a dope-ass pad.
Me and my black ass wife are going to walk around.
I don't give a fuck what y'all got to say about it.
Fuck you to the family.
Everybody suck my dick.
Like, if they just went NWA about it, like, that'd be fire.
Or just come here and don't immediately complain.
Or, yeah, come here and say thank you, sir.
You address every American you see, you address us as royalty, sir, and bow your head.
Bow your fucking head when you talk to us.
You come in.
You're a refugee, bro.
You're a refugee.
We saved you off a boat, okay?
You were floating here in a fucking boat for your life because you couldn't handle mean paper.
The papers are mean to me.
And now you're going to talk some shit.
Isn't that interesting, bro?
The papers are talking shit.
You couldn't handle it.
And the second you get here, what are you doing?
Talking shit.
Talking that shit.
Talking that shit from a distance.
The paper fair had freedom of press.
That went wild on you.
Now you got freedom of speech as your own man.
Yeah.
Talk back.
Talk back.
You're right about your family.
Your family's trash.
Your wife is right about your family, but you're still pussy.
And I'll be honest, yo, I'd be, I mean, like, I know Megan was like, I'm feeling suicidal, all this kind of shit like that.
She also seemed like the type of girl that wants to smoke.
Like, if he was like, yo, let's just get a flat and thug it out.
Maybe she'd be down to do that.
Yeah, I bet she'd roll.
I'm just saying.
Megan, your husband's pussy.
That's all I got to say about that.
He's not.
I hope you see him in person one day, too.
We're going to talk.
We're going to talk in person.
We're going to have a conversation in person.
He's going to bow his head.
Kiss the ring.
He's going to bow his head and he's going to say, thank you for your apology.
Yeah, I know.
Exactly.
I might.
I might invite him on a podcast.
He lives right by your wedding venue.
He's invited.
We'll have him at the wedding.
Real talk.
Get a job here if you want a real job.
Like, if you hate the royal family, stop living off it.
Because he's like, oh, we don't accept their money anymore, but you're still making money as Prince Harry.
Get a job at Trader Joe's, bro.
Be American.
Be American.
You want to be American?
Get a regular fucking American job.
Stop being the prince that's no longer the prince.
Because you know what you're doing.
You're making money off of your family.
You're making money off the relationship to your family.
Don't trash the family and make money off of it.
Let's get Prince William on this podcast.
Fuck yes.
Let's get Prince Williams on this podcast.
Hell, that would be fine.
That's the one that's going to be king.
King, bro.
That's king in the family.
He's next in line, bro.
Get all the kids.
That's not that one.
No, that's Prince Andrew.
Yeah, tarnishing my name, bro.
All right.
Anyway, next, what else we got?
Prince Elder Andrew.
Exactly.
All right, Chrissy Teig is out here getting canceled.
Oh, boy.
What's y'all think about this?
Everybody hates that lady, man.
You're a little sanctimonious.
Yeah.
Fucking good word.
You're a little sanctimonious.
I got to pretend I know what that means.
I think I do, but I don't know.
I don't know, really, either.
It's just a little sanctimonious.
She's a little sanctimonious, bro.
You're a little sanctified, but like people hate her more than she is bad.
It is a little wild, though.
Do you know why she's getting canceled?
Because she was like bullying that girl, Courtney Stoddard.
A 16-year-old.
She was 25, 26 at the time.
Who was 25, 26?
Chrissy Teague and what?
He's DMing this girl.
Kill yourself.
Honestly, if you message any 16-year-old first, there should be a criminal investigation.
If you're 25, but I don't care, gender.
Explain why the girl was.
So this girl was on a reality show.
I don't remember which one.
She married a 51-year-old when she was 16.
Oh, I thought he was even older than that.
I think I read 51.
I'll double-check that link.
Just a super rich guy.
She was like, Super rich, young blonde.
What?
Oh, he's an actor.
Sneak the dude from Lost.
Oh, maybe.
Look that up.
But basically, she's like 16 years old.
She marries the dude from Laws.
He's like 51 years old.
There's a huge age discrepancy.
She basically looks like a Barbie, like blonde girl, you know, super whatever.
And everybody went at her, which is weird because now everybody will go at him.
Well, everybody would be like, yo, look at this old man manipulating this fucking teenager.
What the hell is going on?
But everybody shit on her.
She's a gold digger.
She's this, that, the other.
She's a child.
Her mom is a fucking monster to let it happen.
Exactly.
But her mom and the dude are the monsters.
She's a 16-year-old girl.
And even saying, like, oh, we have a different lens now because social media is not new to us.
Yeah.
It's whatever.
I still don't think I'm talking to a 16-year-old first for any reason.
Yeah.
Especially kill yourself.
Yeah.
Like, that's wild.
Yeah.
So, Chrissy Teigen is DMing her.
Sorry.
Kill yourself.
Yes.
And because she doesn't like the fact that she's a gold digger and she's like making money, I guess, off of her body, which is literally what Chrissy Teigen did for a living, right?
It's like, you know, Chrissy wasn't as a model gold digging off of one person, but that's what modeling is.
It's just money of your looks.
Yeah.
It's like, hey, I'm not.
She's also dealer no deal.
Second.
She's also dealer, no deal.
Second greatest suitcase come up ever.
Wait, was she dealer no deal?
It was dealer no deal.
Oh, I know.
I thought she was Victoria's secret model or something.
I think dealer no deal to swimsuit model to John Legend.
That's hey, how we got some fucking eyes for talent, bro.
America's got talent, bro.
Real talkie.
That's why he's on it.
But yeah, so like for her to come out and just kind of shit all over this girl in that way is a little crazy because she's so woke and progressive on Twitter.
Yeah.
And I think that's really why people are jumping down her throat because they're like, yo, you can't be out here saying that, you know, Trump is mean to women and then you out here bullying this girl worse than Trump ever.
It's a 10-year-old girl.
It's a teenager, bro.
That's wild.
And now, if she was never so, if she was never so virtuous on Twitter, I don't think everybody gives a fuck.
But once you're virtuous on Twitter and you like draw the line the same.
She's definitely worse because of that.
And I wanted to defend her because I think, you know, the girl lost a kid, whatever.
Like, I think all of a sudden we're ganging up on her now.
And it's like, but this is even if she wasn't that, I'd be like, that's a little wild.
You're messaging a 16-year-old out of the blue.
This is a child, yo.
Grow up.
You don't need to do that.
Yeah, yeah.
But you know, I realize if you hate Trump a lot, if you're an actor, it's probably because you got a little Trump in you.
Ooh.
You hate what you are.
You know, because they do the same shit with super homophobic people.
Oh, you're gay.
Oh, you must be gay.
You hate homophobic.
You're so homophobic.
You must be gay.
If you're that Trump phobic, you're a little Trump.
Yeah.
Trump.
I'm not saying you got to love the guy at all, but if you hate him that violently, you're a little Trump.
Deplorable Reaction00:05:50
That's funny.
Like, you see himself in you.
Because that's why you hate it.
You know what I would call messaging a 16-year-old to kill herself?
What is that?
Deplorable.
That's deplorable.
I would say that's deplorable behavior.
That's deplorable behavior.
Take a dirt nap.
That's a deplorable thing to say.
She said that to take a dirt nap.
She tweeted that at her, and then I think she DM'd multiple times about how she should die.
Why are you so angry at that?
I don't know, bro.
Why are you angry?
She's manipulated.
Yeah.
She didn't have to be feminist like us.
Like, we're big feminists.
Like, progressive, feminist men.
Yeah.
That's who we are.
Yeah.
She don't have to be that, but that's crazy.
Yeah.
You know what she said to that teen mom?
Remember Pharaoh Abraham?
Yeah.
She became a porn star?
Yeah, girl.
Wow.
She goes, Pharaoh Abraham now thinks she's pregnant from her sex tape.
In other news, you're a whore and everyone hates you.
Whoops, not other news.
Sorry.
Wild.
That's the thing.
If you make an unlivable constitution, it's going to eventually eat you a lot.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can't make these judgments and not have any sympathy for people.
Yeah.
That you can't live up to.
It's just unrealistic.
Yeah.
I didn't understand what you said until the end, but I think I got it now.
Yeah.
An unlivable constitution, a set of rules that you put on other people that there's no way you're going to ever live.
Yeah.
Lock up anyone who does these things.
And then you immediately do them and you get locked up.
Like you become a prisoner to your own fucking rules.
Yep.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, it's tricky.
It's tricky.
I wonder if she has that constitution, or maybe people put that on her.
What if she's just a wild girl?
She's like, you know, I just go all feelings, no facts in this shit.
And sometimes people agree with me and they try to position that as my identity.
But the reality is I'm a wild girl and I shit on 16-year-olds for gold dangging as well.
I think she mixes being a wild girl with being a little sanctimonious.
Because that's how I always kind of knew her on Twitter as kind of like virtuous.
But maybe I came in later.
I think she'd be having some funny clapbacks.
I think she says funny things on Twitter.
But again, there is a streak of like righteousness to it all.
Yeah.
Not to all of it, but in pockets, it's very like, oh, I can't believe somebody would say such a thing and blah, blah, blah.
This is awful and reprehensible.
Yeah, that's the thing with righteousness is that like your righteousness makes a lot of people feel like shit sometimes.
And if you make me feel like shit, then I can't wait for your downfall.
You know?
So it's like, if righteousness is tied, I think that's the beauty of like being religious, especially Christian, is that like you get to be righteous, but also say that you're a failure in your righteousness.
Like it's baked into religion.
It's like, yo, I'm a fuck up.
Just let you know I'm trying to do this shit, but I'm a fuck up.
And it's probably because there was an earlier iteration of the religion where it's like, I'm perfect.
And people are like, see, no, you're not.
So then they upgraded.
And then when it happened, we're like, no, no, I'm a fuck up.
Like, oh, yeah, that's right.
We're all fuckups.
There used to be, sorry, this is kind of not as related, but you brought up like the way people used to talk.
I remember this old saying to err is human, which it's not from the Bible, but it's like an old saying.
Sure.
I feel like I stopped hearing that.
I used to hear that all the time.
To err is human and blah, blah, blah.
Then something is divine.
Forgiveness is divine.
Whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't hear that anymore ever.
Now to err, you're a piece of shit.
You shouldn't ever exist.
Fuck you.
You're canceled.
Yeah.
And I think people are enjoying seeing Chrissy Teigen get canceled because it seems like something she would be okay with if it happened to other people.
But overall, it's wild to cancel people.
But fuck, man, messaging a 16-year-old is just nuts to me.
This shit is just nuts.
I'm sure I said some wild shit in my day, but I can't imagine messaging a 16-year-old first.
Yeah.
Like, I'm going to go to her profile and click message.
Yeah.
What'd she do?
Just married the dude?
I think so.
It clearly couldn't have been personal.
She didn't message Chrissy Teigen.
What if she ruined the ending for Lost?
Like, what if she tweeted out the ending of Lost?
And then all these people were like, fuck you, bitch.
Like, I've dedicated 500 hours of my life to this show.
And now it's completely ruined.
Take a dirt nap.
If somebody ruined Game of Thrones for me before it happened, I would have thanked them for saving me four years of my fucking life.
I mean, I understand what you're saying, but also dirt nap.
But also dirt nap.
Lost is the same.
Dirt nap.
Lost.
Apparently, people hated the finale.
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
That's right.
It didn't really kind of wrap the show up.
Dirt nap sounds nice, though.
I don't know.
Dirt nap.
Yeah.
I'm a little tired, too.
That's true.
I could take a fucking dirt nap right now.
Think how tired you must be to just be like, hey, this looks nice.
Yeah.
All right.
What else?
One more and then we get out of here.
We could talk about Ellen's show leaving.
Oh, we did.
Yeah.
We did it.
Did we kill Ellen, dude?
I think if you beefed with her.
Did we make Ellen take a dirt nap?
I think if you beef with the Flagrant 2 podcast, it's just not going to work out for you.
It's not that good for you, bro.
There's not a long life attached to it.
She said it wasn't a challenge anymore.
What was it?
What a feeling.
Yeah, because I'm sure the first 23 years are super tough.
You walking out there and fucking dancing.
That must have been so tough.
It wasn't a challenge anymore.
What an odd, completely unself-aware reaction.
Because if daytime talk shows are one thing, it's challenging.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know if it is or it isn't, but like, that's not the reason you don't have a show anymore.
Yeah.
Right?
The facade is over.
Like, people know that you're not nice.
Yep.
That you were playing a character.
That's why it's over.
You didn't really make the decision.
The people made the decision.
If we're talking about challenges, isn't it kind of a challenge to take the ratings that are taking a nosedive and bring them back up?
Isn't that a challenge?
That's the challenge.
That's a challenge.
So, if you're in a challenge, Ellen, here's one.
Yeah.
Lift your shit.
What are you doing?
What's thinking right now?
Wanting that show to tank this whole time.
And now that finally is.
She's like, it's not a challenge.
This is what I've been waiting for.
You finally achieved it.
I finally did it.
Like, I did everything stupid possible.
I would just scare people every episode.
They kept coming on.
Every episode, they come on.
I have someone jump out of the box and scare them.
Manscaped Promo Code00:03:10
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She's always wanted the show.
I mean, she was mean to people and it kept doing better.
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Egyptian Invasion Docs00:15:15
Obviously, we obviously look, we got to talk about Israel Palestine.
We've been talking about every single topic that exists.
Excuse me.
For the last however many years we've been doing this podcast.
For us to ignore it, I think that it would just piss people off, disrespect our fans because we speak openly and candidly about things.
First thing that we're going to do right now is not act like we know what the fuck is going on, the history of this.
Yeah, like to really truly get, I started diving deep into this a little bit.
I was talking to FA, who's just really knowledgeable in this.
And I know you're like, oh, he's going to be biased because he's Muslim, but he's like Turkish Muslim.
Like, he don't fuck with Arabs.
You know, and they don't.
They don't fuck with them.
They really don't.
So they're like, but he's been breaking it down.
Obviously, I've been talking to Dove.
Dove is definitely biased towards the, you know, Israeli side.
And it's just the point is anybody speaking right now, including the Hadids, and the Hadids are Palestinian.
I'm sure that's why it's so important to them.
But everybody's going to have a biased take on it.
And depending on how you feel about the instance is really where you start the historical record, right?
So if you are, you know, Israeli or Jewish, you sympathize with the Israeli side, you're going to start it wherever it makes sense for them.
And if you're Palestinian, you're going to start wherever it makes sense for them.
And then everything after that is, well, they did this, so we got them back, et cetera.
This thing literally goes back thousands.
Well, yeah, thousands of years if you want to do that.
But like within modern history, you're going back hundreds of fucking years.
Okay.
And obviously you can trace it all back to fucking Britain because they cause all the world's problems that we're still dealing with today.
Yeah.
So this goes back so fucking far.
I don't even know if we like should go through any historical record.
Do you like, is that interesting to anybody to like go through some of the history?
Some of it, maybe.
Yeah, hit the points.
Do you want to, because I'll give you Cliff's notes.
You guys, if it gets boring, you tell me and then just shut it down.
Okay.
This is Cliff's notes, done.
Okay.
Post-World War II.
There's a UN doctrine to create an independent Jewish state.
You can obviously go before this.
Like if you really want to go to like the idea of Zionism, who is it?
Like Herzl, I think started.
Ironically, an Austrian.
Austrian guy.
Austrians created a lot of conflict for the Jewish people.
Like, okay, so the U.S. UN doctrine to create an independent Jewish state.
So it is true when Israelis say, hey, we didn't, this isn't us that created this.
This is the UN that created this.
Right.
So that's one common thing that Israelis are saying.
We didn't go this, we're deciding this and fuck everybody.
This is what the UN decision was.
Okay.
In that doctrine, it also says that they should create an independent Arab state as well.
Currently, that hasn't exactly happened, right?
There isn't an independent place that is Palestine, but that was also in the doctrine.
Now, the reason Palestine exists, like I said, Britain wanted to create a pipeline from northern Iraq to Haifa.
So May 1st, 1948, Palestinians start fleeing the area that at the time was Palestine because of tension with the Jews that are living and then moving in there.
Now, May 15th, 1948, the British mandate over Palestine ends.
So remember that British mandate says, hey, we want to make sure we have that thing for the pipeline.
So May 15th, that's going to end, right?
So May 15th, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq.
Oh, sorry, May 14th, Ben-Gurion announces the state of Israel.
So the day before it's about to end, he goes, yo, we got a state.
This is our shit.
On May 15th, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria all invade, but they're pussy as fuck.
And Arabs can't fight for shit.
So they lose, right?
Yeah, you got to explain it more like a New Yorker, like, like New York about it.
Gotcha.
All right.
So Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria invade, right?
But Arabs can't win a war to save their life.
So they get rinsed by Israel, right?
I mean, this is why Turks don't really fuck with the Arabs, I think, because Turks like ran the world for like 500 fucking years.
They had like white slaves.
Like that's the pinnacle of like any culture, you know?
Like England had white slaves, bro.
We were their slaves.
Okay.
So the five countries basically they couldn't, I mean, they just couldn't take them out at all.
Israel grows after the war and then takes over half of Jerusalem.
So they expand their territory after the war.
They win this war.
They go, yo, we're taking more.
We're going to take half of Jerusalem.
Okay.
So the new border is announced, right?
I think, I believe in 48, that's the green line, the current map that we have right now, right?
After 48?
Basically what happens is this.
The new border is announced.
Israel takes half of Jerusalem.
Egypt takes Gaza.
You guys are familiar with obviously Gaza.
Jordan takes the other half of Jerusalem, which is East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
And this is what's called the green line.
And this is the current mapping of that area that we see now.
And it was drawn up that way because they lost a war.
They didn't lost, essentially.
Essentially, yeah.
So after losing it, they're like, yo, we're going to gobble up some more of this shit, which I believe at the time, that's how things worked, right?
As you go on through history, there's like international law that says just because you lose a war, you can't just annex land.
But as we've seen recently, there are countries that have annexed parts of it.
Not only Israel, but you see what Russia did with the Ukraine.
They annexed that part, what Azerbaijan was doing to Armenia.
I think what Turkey did to like North Cyprus.
So this is common, but illegal in terms of international law.
But what the fuck is international law?
Like, is the UN going to walk in and go, hey, you can't do that?
We didn't really do that when Russia took part of Ukraine, right?
Could you say that if the UN is responsible for creating Israel, the whole creation, they could also step in and be like, yo, we gave it to you, but don't do this.
Yes.
And then that's where shit gets money because when people invade you, the UN's not going, hey, don't do that.
Yeah.
Or coming in with forces and you fight back and then you take some more land.
Some people might go, okay, well, that's how land gets carved up throughout history is there wars and then territory is moved this way or this way based on the outcome of that war.
That's what some people might say.
I'm not justifying.
I'm just saying that there is a reason why people believe it.
So 1948, this is after what happened after that war.
So 1948 to 1967, Jews get kicked out of a lot of Arab countries, right?
Not Morocco, weirdly, but many did leave, right?
Many did leave.
Many did leave.
So now you have a lot of Jews that are from throughout the world, especially in the Middle Eastern region.
They're pouring into Israel.
So the number's rising.
Right.
Right.
1967, there's a six-day war, okay?
Arabs try to run it back.
Egypt, Jordan, they're about to invade.
They literally have like the forces lined up.
Israel launches Prianta's strike on Egypt.
Jordan, Syria, and Iraq respond.
They all get their fucking fannies rinse once again, dude.
Like just fucking bodied this time, right?
Like never seen their fannies rinse this hard.
That's the way that the FA put it.
And the results of the six-day war is Israel expands again.
They capture the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem, right?
East Jerusalem is important for what's going on right now because that area, Sheikh Jara, is in that area, right?
They captured West Bank, Gaza, the Sinai Peninsula, and they just straight bodied them.
There was one more war, the Yom Kippur War, which is like super tragic, right?
A lot of dead bodies on both sides.
It was like one of those experiences where like Israel won, but both sides were like, we can't have this much fucking bloodshed.
Like too many people are dying.
We got to stop this.
So there is another ceasefire, right?
And as part of that agreement, there's a peace treaty with Egypt and they gave Egypt back to Sinai.
Okay.
In 1980, Israeli Supreme Court annexes East Jerusalem, right?
So it's fully Israel in their eyes.
Now, the UN law said it was null and void, but in the same way the UN law would say, hey, Russia, you can't take back Crimea or Azerbaijan, you can't take these parts of Armenia, et cetera.
But if you're a country and you've got enough weapons, you can be like, yes, I can.
I mean, that's what Russia did.
Nobody's fucking talking about it, right?
So 1988, Jordan and Egypt give up the West Bank and Gaza to Palestinian authority.
So they basically go, yo, we're not looking after this anymore.
Palestinians, you look after it.
In Israel's mind, they're like, well, we bodied that when y'all tried to invade us again and you lost.
So you giving up some shit that we already took.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, who are you to give it up?
Like, last time you tried to run it back, you got your fanny rinse.
And now you're talking about you giving some shit up that you don't even own no more.
It's like, I took your chain and now you're saying that I could give it to somebody.
It's like, the chain is took it.
Yeah.
You know?
So Shekdara is that section that's in East Jerusalem.
And that's what happened right now.
You probably heard it in the news, right?
I'm probably mispronouncing it.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Palestinians that were expelled because of, I didn't bring this up, but the Nakba.
Can you explain that a little bit?
Okay, it's fine.
Basically, Palestinians that were expelled from areas of Jerusalem moved there when Israel first took that first half, right?
They moved there, right?
In East Jerusalem, Jordan ruled at the time.
Jordan gave them land to build homes, and the UN gave them money to make the homes.
So in 1967, the war happens.
Israeli takes over the region.
They annex the region, right?
And the families, I guess, were there weren't allowed to register their homes.
In 1972, there's a court decision saying that this area actually belongs to Jews from back in the day in the 1800s.
So now everybody's going, whose land is this really?
Well, technically, it was ours back in the 1800s, blah, blah, blah.
A verdict came out in the court that was actually in favor of the Palestinians.
And it was like, no, this is their, these are their homes.
Then the Palestinians claim that there is like a lawyer that wasn't that honest that registered the land for the Israeli settlements.
So now you have this thing where it's like, yo, we had a decision that went our way, but then this lawyer is registering this land, not really for us, but for Israeli settlements.
So what the fuck is going on?
Right.
So that's easily reversible, though.
Like, it's settled in court.
It's done.
Which court?
Is it Israeli court?
Is it the UN court?
Like, you're dealing with so many different things.
Like, if you don't believe that, that is, it's imagine this.
It's like there's this land, right?
That none of us have UN approval to own.
Right.
And we're both saying that our own courts are saying it's ours.
Yeah.
Well, it doesn't mean anything.
Yeah.
It's like an American court saying some law some house in Mexico should actually be ours.
And the Mexicans are like, no, it's, yeah.
Your law means nothing over here.
Yeah.
Right.
So that's how both of them ruled on it.
It wouldn't be.
Yeah, because we don't give a shit about the U.S. That's another thing.
So they don't care about the UN, right?
They've been biased enough towards Israel, even though ironically.
We'll get there.
I'm just saying from Israelis, they do not, they're not going to listen to any judgment that they make.
So listen, so there's a bunch of, this is disputed, but a lot of different, like in 1970, they said that Jews can reclaim lost land.
There's Ottoman documents saying that Palestinians own that land.
Those documents are rejected.
Again, we're just going back and forth in like political or like legal jargon at this point.
Okay.
Basic issue is Israel is giving citizens rights to reclaim land, but not giving Palestinians arguably the same rights to reclaim their land.
Right.
So if it was their land before, why should they not have the right to reclaim it?
And then they can both go back and forth hundreds and hundreds of years proving that they had some ancestors that were living there.
And you know what?
These people have all lived in the same fucking area for thousands of years.
So you can just keep on going back and finding documents that somebody put a fucking tree stump down in one area and it was a Muslim guy.
Okay, so it's us.
We should have it.
Or a Jewish dude down the block was like, okay, it was us.
So I understand the difficulty.
Okay.
One argument is obviously you lost the war and what happens after you lose the war is you don't get any fucking rights to whatever it is.
Yeah.
Maybe that's against international law, but that is what it is.
And like I said, there's other countries that are also doing this at the time, and nobody seems to have that big an issue over, right?
So then you have now you can play into like leadership and like what are the motivations of these different places, right?
Like right now, I think they've had four elections in Israel and can't form a coalition.
So they have like a coalition government.
They don't have like what we have where it's just you get a president.
So they have like the leader of the coalition, I guess, is Netanyahu.
And for everybody that thinks like that Israel just feels one way about Palestine and what's going on, and it seems like I'm capping for Israel here.
I'm just trying to make sure everybody's on the same page.
The reason why they haven't been able to form a coalition for the last four elections is because motherfuckers there disagree.
There's a difference between the politics and the people of every country.
I know everybody around the world hates American politicians.
So do we.
We don't want to be in fucking Afghanistan.
We don't want to be in these senseless wars over and over and over again.
We don't want to like disrupt and overthrow governments.
The average person, us, we don't want to do that.
Now, do we like the benefits of it?
Fuck yeah.
We like some cheap gas.
You know what I mean?
We like the fact that our money is backed by oil.
We like all these things.
But if you ask us on like a human level, if we want that, no.
We're fortunate enough that all the shit that we fuck with around the world ain't next door.
But please believe if it was next door, we're going to hear about it.
Okay.
But the people are different than the government.
And I think a lot of times what's the tricky issue with Israel is that like because it is a Jewish state, criticism of the government and their actions is viewed as anti-Semitic.
Now, there are a lot of anti-Semites that criticize Israel because it is a safe way to be anti-Semitic.
They feel hatred towards Jews and they're like, well, here's a good way to prove why.
Right.
And there are people who love Jews, who are Jewish, Jewish people in Israel that are very critical of their own government, that do not like the decisions that Netanyahu has made, that do not like the expanding settlements, that look at it as poking the bear and would prefer that there was a two-state solution where both these people had access to their land and they didn't have to constantly be fighting over it.
And the tricky thing is, in order to maintain power, politicians, we know this in America, just like anywhere else, will sign deals with whoever allow them to maintain power.
So Netanyahu is going, whoever's going to support me, allow me to keep running this shit, I will do whatever you, oh, the settlers, the settlers are the people that are creating these like pockets of, I guess, Israeli expansion within the West Bank.
Is that fair?
So, okay, I'm going to rock with them.
I'm going to rock with them because then they're going to support me.
Right.
And of course, the Palestinians are going, like, yo, do we have like our space or not?
Like, it seems like you keep expanding.
And then the average Israelis who are happily living in fucking Jerusalem or Tel Aviv are going, stop going over there because my kid is in the army and he's going to get fucking killed.
Yeah.
So that's why you have half the country and probably more going, I don't want this guy in power.
I don't want.
Now, here's the problem.
The second bombs start going off, when there is fear, there is no empathy.
Netanyahu Settlers00:02:59
Yes.
With fear, no empathy exists.
If I think myself or my kids are going to die, I do have any empathy for the other person on the other side.
I want to do whatever protects my kids.
The second the rockets go off on both sides.
It does not matter.
The rockets go off.
All of a sudden, you're not worried about how those people could feel about land disputes.
You're not worried about, you're going, oh, you're trying to kill my family.
I don't give a fuck about you.
And that's, and then, okay, so when you look at the guy like Netanyahu, now I guess he has a lot of support because I think in times of war, everybody supports the person who's, but before that, there was not like all of my friends that were either Israeli or like hardline, like pro-pro-Israel.
None of them liked yet Netanyahu.
You were very critical of Netanyahu.
Yeah, I was an early super fan.
I mean, war hero.
Well-spoken, American educated, did such incredible things.
And then you saw this lust to keep on a lot of this power.
And I was like, no one should be in power that long.
Who is your successor?
Who should we start backing?
And you didn't see that.
So you have someone like me who was like, hey, let's see who else is out there.
But look right now, both sides, left and right, are loving him because in times of crisis like this, you want the strong line, right-wing, fucking leader.
And it's like, and this is what happens.
I mean, like, often people have spoken about Netanyahu.
He's basically a plastic bag in the wind.
It's just wherever the fuck, whoever's going to support me, whatever the opinion is, I will roll at that so I can maintain this power.
And just to clarify real quick with the settlers, right?
They're basically, they're not necessarily Israelis.
A lot of times they're Americans, Ukrainians, like people who, like Dove was saying, even they're like these Ukrainians that are like one-eighth Jewish, and they're just basically leaving fucking Russia, the Ukraine for a better life.
And these settlements in the West Bank get subsidized by the Israeli government.
So they're getting basically super cheap houses, but with all, you know, good amenities, et cetera.
So they're almost incentivized to leave their really poor countries and come to a first world country that you have access to all these, you know, I guess, amazing, you know, resources.
And then you're expanding, I guess, Israel in the process, right?
Or at least the frontiers.
The extremists on the Israeli side see it as historical Jewish land.
I believe they called it Judeo-Sumeria.
So it's more than just these lines.
It's wherever the Jewish people, I guess, were roaming back in the day.
But I think the average Jew does not see Israel like that.
Well, look, eventually they're going to want to still be able to go over there.
I mean, there's absolute incredible historical parts of those areas that you would hope that if they want to visit, you know, birthplace, I think Mark helped me here, like Joseph and different.
Oh, I mean, yeah, the birthplace of all the modern religions.
I mean, Jesus, you want to go to Nazareth?
You're going to have to go to the West Bank, you know?
Native Body Care00:03:00
So you have this situation.
You have this situation where a lot of people are going, oh, like Israel just wants a one-state solution.
They just want to take over all the land, et cetera.
And that's not the case because if they do that, they can't be democratic.
Right?
If they take over all of the West Bank and Gaza and incorporate them into Israel, the number of non-Jewish now Israelis will be too high and they won't be able to maintain whatever laws that they want to maintain.
I mean, shit, if they wanted to do it just based on democracy, they could be like, yo, Sharia law is in.
We got more numbers and this is what's going to happen.
So they wouldn't be able to maintain democracy.
And the reason why that's important is because if they don't maintain democracy, guess what support they lose?
U.N. support?
U.S. We're not out here supporting dictatorships unless they got crazy oil.
You know what I mean?
And unfortunately, there's no oil in Israel.
Good job choosing that.
Offshore.
Yeah, offshore.
Good job, that land.
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Aqsa Conflict Roots00:15:58
So, basically, the tricky thing about this is like you're never going to convince the problem with this is that when you're dealing with the extremists on both sides, both of them feel like they have a right to the land because of God.
And there's no negotiation with God.
Okay.
So if God is telling you that your land, Palestine, should be from the river to the sea, then that's where the fuck you're going to go with your land.
And there's nothing.
Isn't that America Manifest Destiny?
Wasn't that like, this is what God wants?
Literally.
Shining Sea?
Sea to Shining Sea.
Literally.
And it's like, once God tells you it's okay, then they're like, all right, let's move the Native Americans.
Let's move the Mexicans.
Let's move whoever the fuck is in the way.
We'll move them out, right?
Once God.
And that's on both sides.
So if the extremists on the Israeli side are like, yo, God said that this is our land, they don't give a fuck about how the Palestinians feel, if they're going to be in those settlements or not, if it is, you know, divided in an apartheid type system.
They don't give a flying fuck, those extremists.
The average Israeli, sure, they don't want this shit.
But those extremists are like, fuck it.
This is, God said this is our land.
So we're going to keep running it.
We're not going to beat 50-50 because God don't do 50-50, right?
God does 100 because I'm God.
I don't have to negotiate with nobody.
And the same side with Palestinians.
I think a Jewish God would negotiate.
You would think.
But yeah, but so, and then I think on the Palestinian side, the same thing.
Like the extremist organizations that are running and making the decisions there aren't going to go, yeah, let's just have an easy two-state solution because that doesn't satisfy their thirst and that doesn't satisfy the people that are funding them.
Right?
If you are running it based on the decisions of God, you're not going to go, well, God would be happy with 50-50.
And passion gets votes, and it's hard to get votes if you're moderate and you're asking.
Moderate people don't vote.
They're not passionate enough.
I would not be surprised if you asked the, and I've asked Palestinians and we've had, we have friends that are Palestinian, comics are Palestinian.
I would not be surprised if you spoke to them and you're like, yo, would you guys be cool with a two-state solution?
I bet you the majority of them, just like the majority of Jews, would be like, yes, we would fucking love that.
We love our independence and our autonomy.
But the people making the decisions at the highest level, they might not be okay with that.
And they might know that their bread is buttered, not wanting that.
So they'll do everything they possibly can to fight.
And who knows?
Maybe Israel wouldn't allow that.
Maybe they wouldn't.
Maybe they wouldn't.
I know that there's tons of historical precedents for fear that given a two-state solution and given access to whatever resources they would have, they would feel like, oh shit, we could be under attack potentially.
Maybe Iran would throw tons of money and throw tons of weaponry at the people that are running Hamas in Gaza, and maybe they would put us in an even more, for lack of a better word, like fearful state.
And I guess we can see where Israel is coming from in the sense of like getting outvoted.
Like the reason Pakistan formed is Muslims were a lot of Muslims were like, look, if we are part of India, we'll get outvoted on everything.
Any like law, Muslim versus Hindu, we don't have the numbers.
We need our own country.
Now they have their own country.
And you would think that's not going to happen.
But now India is very pro-Hindu in any like any pro-Hindu thing.
We're just going to pass it because we got the numbers.
So I see where they're coming from.
It does seem like, though, fundamentally, aren't they just trying to take back land that they said was theirs, but they haven't had.
Like, it's, that's the issue, right?
That's where the conflict starts.
And then you guys felt it was escalated because rockets got fired toward you.
So now you're like, we don't give a fuck anymore.
But that's.
All we're trying to do is survive.
And can I just make my please?
I guess my statement is I think it's important.
I mean, I said off camera.
A lot of folks have been messaging me on this on both sides.
This is where I stand.
Just even going back historically.
I am a Moroccan Jew.
My parents were born in Morocco.
Every one of my family members has left Morocco, either for Israel, France, Canada, or U.S. My father still speaks fluent Arabic.
He speaks Arabic to his brothers.
We are in love with that culture.
We love my religious Jewish family revere the king of Morocco.
That is the biggest proof.
Like that type of coexistence, this is what I grew up on.
This is what I love.
I'm also an absolute huge supporter of Israel.
Two of my grandparents are buried in Israel.
I'll never lose that love and support.
So I will always give, we have that statement.
We have a right to exist.
That country exists.
They will die for it.
You know, my family, I have family members serving in that army.
At the same time, I believe and I've always believed that Palestinians deserve every single of the same exact type of equal rights in their own country.
I've always been a believer of the two-state solution.
That seems, you know, tougher and tougher as we go.
So we can speak on this.
The one thing I will say, though, and in this current conflict that's been so tough for me, and you've seen it from everyone that's spoken up on it, I mean, I was worried about you guys speaking up on it because it's if you understand the group that we're in, I mean, it's the Jew, we have Muslims working with us, and the Indians, and the Catholic.
I mean, this is what I love.
This is probably why I left Hollywood.
Like, this is the realest thing I've ever been involved with.
I've loved the Arab and Muslim fans that have like come up and they're huge amounts.
And I think that the answer to this is what you guys do all the time: bust each other's balls, and everyone try to find common ground.
And that's what I want to say I believe in.
In this particular instance, it's gotten so bad from the last experience, the war in 2014, of at least there being some type of let's see both sides to.
I can't believe that people won't do research or at least speak against the one thing that they should be speaking out against, which is very clear to to me and a ton of my friends and family of Hamas that is running Gaza, that is firing indiscriminately into Israel, is a terrorist organization.
I separate them from Palestine, but or Palestinians, but this is all we're seeing is that there somehow there's a justification for that, or people aren't speaking up on that.
I mean, if you asked me a week ago, is what's happening in Sheikh Jara like terrible?
I'm like, yes, it's a political BS and we are not our governments and there's still so much shit to have to be resolved in that instance.
But you lose the plot when you're talking about 3,000 rockets being fired from Gaza indiscriminately into Israel.
With Sheikh Jara, there are people that were evicted from those homes that were on this, I guess, what people believe to be disputed territory, right?
So the territory was eventually owned by, I believe, an Israeli NGO, but the people there are like, nah, Jordan gave us this land and the UN gave us money to build the homes.
These are our homes, right?
But then Israel's like, well, they were never registered with us when we annexed the land.
And they were like, but y'all never let us fucking register the homes.
So I believe that since the issue of settlements and Israeli expansion is so like visceral and painful and that wound is still open, seeing an example like this is just another example of that expansion.
So which but there's a separate thing happening in Israel right now.
There are actual for the first time in Arab or co-Arab Christian towns just real quick of civil war basically which hasn't been seen in Israel.
But just real quick, just to clarify, so what Dove was saying is like, yeah, that's a fucked up political issue.
We should protest that.
Like have protests.
Like let's talk about, let's come out on the street.
Like I know that, you know, recently in Scotland, you know, it's pretty amazing that there are these two like, I think immigrant families that were like collected, collected by like the Scottish Immigration Services.
And I don't know the whole story.
I only saw this on Instagram.
So if they end up fucking diddling kids or something like that, I'm sorry, I feel bad.
But the community surrounded the fucking van that was taking them out of the community.
They just didn't let them take it.
And the police just went, all right, fucking let them out.
So the community just kind of like stepped up and they're like, yo, these are people, the community.
We fuck with them.
You're not going to just remove them.
Maybe we can have some sort of like court proceedings to make sure they were Indian, by the way.
Court proceedings to like, you know, find a legal route for citizenship, et cetera.
Right.
So the people came out and they're like, this is wrong.
And you would never see me because that you wouldn't have rallies in the streets with exactly.
Maybe there's a version of that where it's like, instead of going to violence, people can come out and they can protest.
And maybe they would argue that's what they were doing at the Temple Mount or Al-Aqsa.
I think they were at Al-Aqsa, right?
There's the Temple Mount and then there's the Al-Aqsa is on the Temple Mount.
They're next to each other.
But it's the same area.
So maybe they would argue, hey, this is what we're doing.
We were peacefully protesting.
And then Israeli police started ushering us out.
It's really fucked up.
Point is, is that all like the wound is so fresh.
It's always fresh.
It's been fresh for fucking thousands of years.
And any sort of aggravation on either side is looked at as, oh, it's go time.
But that was Hamas trying to actually flex and have power.
I mean, that's just clear to me.
You can call it my bias.
I wish there were other folks in the room on the other side to defend it.
But what am I arguing here?
There's terrorists firing at both Jews and Arabs, 3,000 rockets indiscriminately.
If we didn't have that iron dome system that was also co-funded by the U.S.
And we now saw Israelis, Israeli buildings, hospitals, schools being blown up, not what Israel's doing back in Gaza.
And you can, again, I'm going to get a million messages arguing that they're attacking civilians.
They're using as much restraint as I think that they could without going into Gaza, which they don't want to do.
And that's a fact as well.
Then you wouldn't see me arguing.
You're talking about, we're looking at it at this point where there's a war and there's terrorism.
That's terrorism.
And I wish, please, if you want to use pressure on the government on politics, use that.
For me, I was actually most hopeful about changes happening in Israel when I saw that they couldn't form this government for such a long time.
I was like, okay, people want something new.
And then there were these new established relationships with the Gulf states like United Arab Emirates.
And I believe that.
Do you know how many Israelis loved that newfound connection with them that have been flying to Dubai that are striking up business deals?
I would hope that that would be the best way for those Gulf states to now start taking care of Palestinians and giving them bigger opportunities now that they have so much leverage on Israel in terms of new business deals and all the prosperity that can come from that would go down and also affect the Palestinians in a great way to the point that they couldn't, that they would slow down the settlement building, that they or find a way to finally speak on that.
So we can say of course right and wrong, but where do we go?
Full takeaway here is I think most people agree that the expansion of Israel with these settlements in the West Bank is a cause of problems and tension and seen as an aggressive act.
Israelis, Americans, Canadians, that's what I'm thinking here.
I think most people go, yo, dude, that's not cool.
Okay.
You have the power to do that, and these other people are powerless to stop you.
I don't think that's a right, I don't think that's the right thing.
There's got to be a better solution to that.
And I think also most people can go, you can't shoot rockets at fucking civilians.
Yeah.
It doesn't justify it.
There's this like logical leap that I don't understand where like people go when rockets fly up and yes, they have an iron dome, but that doesn't mean it's okay, right?
But it's like when rockets fly because they did land, a couple land and there were 10% of them are landing.
So talk about 10% of 3,000 plus rockets.
Right.
So it's like, so there's this weird justification where they're like, well, yeah, because you're evicting these people, that's why 30 rockets get sent.
And it's like, or you're expanding your territory or you're doing this.
Yes, those things are wrong.
I don't know if that justifies sending all the rockets.
Now, two things can be wrong at the same time.
And we all agree we need to find a solution to this because the more that this happens, the more that we're going to see rockets.
But we can't jump to rockets.
You know, I think on a primal level, it feels a little bit, and it's ironic that so many like Hollywood types are saying that from California, because this is exactly what happened in California.
But it seems like it's a little bit like bullying.
Like you're just come taking land from us.
You're just, we were here, and then you're just taking this from us.
And so there is a certain like level of empathy there that when a response happens, it's like, all right, well, shit, you were getting bullied, so you had to respond how you respond.
But that doesn't necessarily mean you're allowed to fire 3,000 rockets.
You know what I mean?
The reaction is disproportionate, I think.
Yeah, and then expect something not to happen.
But I think it's so viscerally emotional to see those videos and like people are praying during E and they're getting forced out.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, it's like, well, fuck, man, whatever.
Yo, these guys got to fight back.
And I don't think the reaction is proportionate, but there's a visceral kind of like, hey, man, you got to fight back how you got to fight back.
It's easier to relate to the underdog.
Let's relate to the underdog of being Palestinians.
I want everyone to understand.
I don't care how much hate.
Hamas is ISIS.
Hamas is Hezbollah.
It is a terrorist organization.
That's it.
If it happened to anyone else's country, they would say, nuke the place.
And then we don't care about the collateral damage.
Israel's doing their best to mitigate that.
But yes, civilians are dying.
And I cry for every single lost life on both sides.
This is terrible.
I want this to end.
Anyone that knows me knows I want this to end.
But let's, why don't we jump to the end?
How does this end?
Do you think Israel is going to wave the white flag and give this up?
They will be there till the last dying man or woman.
Yeah.
So that's the thing about this that is so tragic: the more you research this, and I hate to even say this, the less a solution looks like it's going to happen.
Like the more I started looking into this and the more I started talking to people about this and reading about this, the more I was like, oh, we're not solving this in our lifetime, bro.
I mean, or the way the only way it does get solved is one or the other wins.
And but the fact that they're the idea of them just living together and both believing that God doesn't want that.
You've spoken on this.
It's kind of it's like it's a joke premise, but like there's some truth to it.
The reason we don't have this kind of shit in America is because we killed the natives.
Mostly.
The reason Australia doesn't have these issues is because mostly they killed the natives.
Historically, back in the day, you would just kill the natives.
In a modern time where you don't do that, there's going to be a constant conflict.
And yeah, I don't, to your point, they might there might be a ceasefire, but I don't think the wound is going to get reopened over and over again.
I got lost in Mose's explanation in terms of the history.
I'm glad you gave it, but I was like, yo, a lot is happening.
But the one thing I picked up on big picture was this shit, history just is going to repeat itself, it seems.
And fundamentally, it seems like if you can back off the expansion, then you'll back off the retaliation, which would back off your retaliation, which is going to be y'all the tech.
I would look, I would love that.
If you were going to say, like, where, what does a Palestinian country look like?
And please, I'm absolutely not an expert here.
I mean, because if you ask anyone on the hard right of Israel, it doesn't truly Gaza only.
That's what they believe that Palestine can declare, and that'll still be monitored for security reasons.
I would say, give them the West Bank, give them Gaza.
I do not ever believe that they would give up East Jerusalem at this point, but I hope that with peace, that there is continued monitoring by Jordan and other countries.
I wish it's a, but it is going to always stay the capital of Israel.
Every country gets to declare their capital.
That's just how it works.
You could work.
You could declare it.
That'd be cool.
Jewish Homeland Claims00:15:02
I think that the most unique and inspiring solution for Jerusalem specifically would just be like, this is God's city, bro.
This is, nobody can have God's city.
God's city is God's city.
If y'all really believe in God, then that's for God.
That's not for you.
You don't own God's city.
Muslims or Jordanians or Palestinians don't own God's city.
God owns God's city.
And maybe everybody could realize that their God, regardless of who it is, had played some part in that city and has sent prophets there.
And maybe they could all maybe check ego.
I mean, this is never going to happen.
Of course not.
But it would be really cool if there was this one center where everybody could go.
It doesn't matter who the fuck you are.
Also, it's going to be tricky because I think most religions, the three major religions, it's our God is the God.
Yeah, but all of them have sent prophets there, right?
It's like all of them have these like servants of God that have gone to Jerusalem.
At least some, there's some debate whether Muhammad went there in a dream or he actually went there.
But like they've played a part in the history of the religion.
And I don't know.
It just, it'd be cool if it was looked at as beautiful.
I want it to be the shared city.
Anyone that knows, I mean, when Andrew and I went to Israel together, it's like you to get to the Western Wall, pull up to the old city, you go through a place called the Jaffa Gate where you're walking through the Arab quarter to the right.
You turn right if you want to go and see the church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is where Jesus came down from the cross, was interned, and was put on the anointing stone.
You continue walking down the same path, this same narrow little path, and you reach the most important part in Judaism, the bottom of the Temple Mount, the Western Wall, where then you could see the Dome of the Rock and Alexa on top in the Temple Mount.
You do this all within a five-minute walk down this corridor, and it's the most beautiful thing in the world.
So I always believe in that.
But now we're talking again, we're talking governments and we're talking about whose city it is.
So, in terms of whose city it is, I'm like, believe me, I believe in the spirit that it is everyone's city and it's God's city.
Of where it is in terms of like borders, Israel will never give up.
They will die.
They will die at everyone's floor to keep that city.
There's an old Jon Stewart joke from, like, I saw a clip of it.
It was like in the fucking 80s when he did stand up, where he talked about, like, he said something about how it's all so close together.
Jesus, Muhammad, and Abraham or Moses or whatever all went to the same high school.
Like, it's all close to the beach.
It's beautiful.
I mean, that's what it's what it's what I want to see.
I mean, but we're going to, I mean, a lot of these arguments are like, we're still going back in history.
Like, Andrew went through all of this, and I'm just like, I heard this all before.
Like, where are we?
How do we, how do we get to it?
And I truly believe that there was going to be progress when we talked about, you know, these new relations and more prosperity and the hope that, you know, maybe after a global pandemic, I think things will come together.
But no, I don't know.
I'm curious to hear what you guys have to say.
Any thoughts?
I mean, not necessarily, I don't know a ton about the issue at hand, but like I have been interested in the media reaction because this seems like the first conflict in like ever since I've been on social media and even just like even track of the news that the public opinion has swayed towards supporting Palestine.
It seems like historically in the United States, like specifically in my community growing up, like it was very evangelical Christians.
So they all support Israel.
And so it seems.
But selfishly.
Yeah, no, of course.
Explain the evangelical Christian support of Israel because I think this is really interesting.
I don't understand necessarily perfectly, but like my understanding, like there were a few kids from my high school that were like, we need Jews to go back to Israel because once all the Jews return to their holy land in Zion, then Jesus will come back and then kill all of them.
Yeah, we got to centralize them in one place so we can just drop a whole net and capture them.
It's so funny because like evangelical Christians are so supportive of the Jews being in the homeland, right?
And Jews are like, well, yeah, that's awesome.
We want support for us being in the homeland.
But they don't go any further as to why they're supportive.
Like if Jews just ask one more question, like, yo, why are you riding for us so far?
You'll find out.
Go eat the cheese off the mousetrap.
It's great cheese.
Not to compare him to rats.
Okay.
I didn't mean to actually compare him.
I'm just saying as a metaphor, okay?
Go eat the cheese.
Go eat the cheese.
It's like, but what's funny is, of course, Jews are going to take them up on it because Jews are like, he ain't coming back.
Oh, yeah.
He's going back the first time.
Yeah, he's going to come back once.
We're expecting another guy to come.
He gone.
He's gone.
Fuck.
But it's just so funny how all this works out.
Okay.
So that was like my perspective growing up.
It's like I knew all these evangelical Christian pro-Zion people.
Yes.
And for the first time, seeing like the mock.
Explain Zionism real quick.
It's a term everybody hears, but maybe some people don't know what it is.
I should not be the person to explain.
Zionism is just the idea that there's a Jewish homeland and you support that idea of the Jewish homeland.
You believe that the Jewish homeland is what?
Zion?
Mount Zion?
Is that it?
Or am I saying a Bob Marley song?
Well, I will also.
I always hear it in that comment.
It basically just means like if you're a Zionist, you believe that Israel should exist.
And the Zionist movement was built around this idea that the Jewish people should have a homeland, a place for them.
And that homeland is Israel right now.
And it's based on the Torah as far as like giving Moses the promised land.
Like you have Canaan.
This is your place.
And this is where your people are going to be.
And I'm going to take care of you no matter what.
And like, you're going to have generations of people and they're all going to propagate this land or whatever.
And something really interesting is like the most extreme Jews, the Hasidic Jews, those are the ones that have like the hats and they're in Brooklyn and they wear like the black suits and they have the hair that curls on the side.
Raise my rent.
They raised it.
They raised it $5,100 this day.
They had to cancel my lease.
You're not the only person that raised the rental, apparently.
Throw them in this situation in the first place.
Free Mark.
Hashtag free me.
A lot of evicting going on.
Come on.
So that switches your angle.
You're usually sympathetic with Palestinians.
I get it.
I really do.
The city of David is on Mount Zion, which is the hill in Jerusalem.
And Zionism, we were saying personal.
Just real quick with the Hasidic Jews.
You would think that the most extreme version of the religion would be supportive, they would be Zionists, right?
They'd be like the most extreme Zionists, like the most extreme version of Muslims, for example.
You're like, yo, all the holy sites, that's ours.
Like, let's get it.
They are not supportive of the state of Israel because they think it's a political act.
And they think that God will bring Israel back to the Jewish people.
The Messiah is supposed to come and then you would go back.
And this is a single thing.
And all this is faultless.
God has given us the equipment to do it.
We shut the fuck up.
Trust me, there's plenty of religious Jews on the right that are happily in Jerusalem.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, there are groups that are anti-Zionists.
Yes.
Which is, it's just surprising because I thought that they would be like the most.
And remember, Zionism was this movement from Herzl where he was basically, he saw the writings on the wall in Europe and he was basically telling people like it's getting, you know, anti-Semitism is not new in the 30s from, like, this was happening in the 1800s.
I mean, before.
I mean, literally, I'm in Morocco because we were given four months to leave, convert, or die from Spain, from Isabel and Ferdinand.
It was called the Alhambra Decree.
So we ended up over there.
Herzl was getting people in the 1800s, 1900s saying, like, we need a Jewish homeland.
It's getting bad over here.
It is surprising.
You meet enough Jews, you'll meet multiple who are like, oh, we're here because we had to flee where we were before.
Yep.
It is.
Yeah, that's been their history.
Yeah.
There's been a lot of fleeing that.
But yeah, so just if we could clarify some things, just so you see these videos popping up of like people beating up like a Jewish dude in fucking Canada, you know what I mean?
And you're just like, well, what's going on?
Is this starting to happen?
Like, what's going on here?
Just to clarify, like, I think we all empathize, or you should fucking empathize with what the Palestinian people are going through.
Yeah.
If you're not empathizing with them, then you are so biased that you're removing humanity from a group of people that deserve humanity.
And they deserve that empathy.
They deserve that love.
And it is underestimated how much empathy Israeli people have for that plight.
Don't get me wrong.
Israeli people.
Israeli people.
Not the government, but the people.
How many of them want there to be a two-state solution?
How many of them want there to be a country that is Palestine, their territory?
And how many people disagree with this expansion of Israel and the expansion of these settlements?
Okay.
I think most calm, logical, reasonable people would agree or at least have that thinking process.
At the same time, they don't want terrorist organizations for whatever reason to shoot rockets into their country.
Also reasonable to not want that.
I think that's very, if it happened to America, like think about it, like America occupies certain places, right?
If America is occupying Afghanistan and some Taliban shoots some rockets at the American base that they're occupying, please believe it's adios.
Yeah, because they fired 3,000.
We're not going to synthesize.
You're talking about all the ways.
We're not going to let them know.
That happened in January.
Remember where they shot the Iran shot rockets at a U.S. base.
And everyone in America was like, oh, it's gone.
On like Donkey Kong.
And then we shot my man, right?
Yeah.
But guys, let's go.
You're talking about their attacks on the future.
You ain't getting by no more.
But again, you're talking about them, like people have said, oh, well, they have a right to attack back.
They're not attacking Israeli army bases.
So let's wait.
It's like saying Canada is firing on Manhattan.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
The point is, the point is, I know we're not justifying it.
After he does it up.
I know.
We're not justifying.
We're just trying to make sure because I don't want anybody to be mischaracterized here.
That's not to say that there aren't, I'm sure, plenty of Israelis that are supportive of what's going on.
Just as there are plenty of Americans that are probably supportive of things that are going on that we might disagree with.
But the idea that they're a complete monolith is not the case.
And just because you want a Jewish homeland doesn't mean you don't want Palestinians to fucking exist.
Okay.
Those things can operate separately.
And I think Dove has said this, but he's separating Palestinians who probably don't want 3,000 rockets fired on Israel from Hamas.
Yeah.
And I'm sure every Palestinian in Palestine right now does not want occupation.
They don't want Jewish police forces around.
They want their fucking country.
That's it.
And they deserve their fucking country.
And you're hearing me say it.
I am saying it very clearly.
I absolutely believe in the same.
So I'm making this a Hamas versus Palestinian argument.
I really do hope that there is peace.
I hope that there is a homeland for them and they deserve it.
Like we have one.
They have one as well.
And it's not even, I'm talking as an American, but I'm a believer in the state of Israel.
So I can't get off of that.
And you're a believer in the state of Palestine.
Yeah.
So it's like, let's do, I don't know what the fuck we got to do, man.
And the more you research it, the more depressing it gets.
That's a simple answer, but then the messy part becomes what is what is Israel?
What is Palestine?
Are you putting that joke out?
Because I don't want to say it if you're putting your joke out.
Not yet, but eventually I probably would.
Okay.
So like I won't say anything about the joke.
Mark has a funny bit, but the idea that like, you know, we don't have to look at everything as a two-solution situation, right?
Is that there is nuance and there are gray areas to every issue in life.
And the problem of looking at this in this one way is that if you look at something in two states, you're going to villainize the other one, right?
So if you don't want, if you're not supportive, if you can't, part of you can't come out and be like, yo, it's fucked what's happening in Palestine.
It's fucked what's happening to these people.
I don't want those people to go through that.
That doesn't mean that you hate every Jewish person or that you don't want an Israel or you don't want a Jewish homeland.
Those things don't, those things don't have to exist in, what is the word I'm looking for?
That's not the dichotomy, right?
But you can have empathy and want there to be a Jewish homeland.
You can have a place in your heart for a Palestinian homeland and a Jewish homeland.
And you can want this to be solved, obviously, in another way besides having war.
But you can also call out the atrocities on both sides.
You can call out a fucking terrorist organization, but you can also call out the expansion of Israel.
And I'll be honest, if you're Palestinian, you see that as terrorizing.
That's what I was saying.
You see it as terrorizing.
It's not the same as rockets, but you see it in that way.
And to take that away from them is not fair.
It's not fair.
So it doesn't justify the reaction.
It doesn't justify 3,000 rockets, but you are shoving me off my homeland, which we, in my mind, is like, look, you already got your homeland.
So why are you taking ours?
Now, that does not make the reaction okay of 3,000 rockets in any way.
I don't think that's it.
But I can empathize with that feeling of, yo, you have a homeland.
Now this is my homeland.
Now you're taking it from me.
And I don't think that there can be a solution unless I don't think there can be a solution if Hamas exists.
And I don't think there can be a solution if expansion exists.
Yeah, I can agree with both of those.
I think you have to get rid of Hamas and you have to get rid of their influence.
They cannot be the people that are running shit in Gaza because there's no hope if they are.
Because we know they have one solution.
Of fact, you know, who wants there's nobody that wants war more than Hamas because that's how they recruit, and that's peaceful between Israel and shit is peaceful in Gaza.
Guess who can't get any new members?
Yeah, Hamas.
They want the embargoes.
To your point about that, I empathize with Israeli people.
Once rockets get fired at them, being like, Yo, do what the fuck you got to do.
I'm under attack.
Handle it, Israel.
I can identify with those Palestinians getting shoved off their homeland, feeling like they're under attack.
And be like, Yo, Hamas, do what you got to do because we're not prepared to fight this, but y'all got shit, so go.
I can see both sides, I can see, yeah, I can see them definitely turning a blind eye, yeah, or that even.
Like, I can empathize with that primal feeling of, yo, I'm under attack.
I'm what the fuck is going on?
I don't have a home.
I'm getting kicked out.
Like, I could die.
That can't even celebrate ETH.
Yo, I, Hamas, I don't know what's gonna happen.
I can use some help.
This is what y'all do.
All right, this is what y'all do.
Yeah, so it's just fucking it, just sucks, man.
Do you think the media response has been sort of impacted by the Black Lives Matter protests throughout the summer or like in the way that there's been sort of like a social activism uptick?
This happened when I was in college.
I noticed the shift when I was in college.
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I'd never experienced it before.
Like you said before, there was just unilateral support of Israel.
Yes.
Right.
And in college, I started to meet some people that were way more supportive of like the Palestinian plight.
Did you notice this in college at all?
And that's where it has been really the most active for the, I mean, since we were in college, but in student universities across the country.
Everybody just dove and I, what that's how we know each other went to college together.
That's so like, so yeah, so we started.
We met at that pro-Israel rally back there.
It's okay.
But no, a friend of ours, like, he was very sympathetic, and I never understood it because the way that it was kind of like positioned to me was like, we were programmed to think.
We're pro hey, listen, Israel's just defending themselves, and there's terror organizations that are trying to take them down.
And then they'd always throw this in, and like, oh, yeah, by the way, they hate gays and women.
And you're like, oh, okay.
You know, like it was, it was.
And then I think as the Democratic Party started to kind of fully identify around victimhood, they had no choice but to embrace the victimhood that exists around the world.
Right.
And you can't say, yo, we stand up for the oppressed and then not side in this situation with the people that are being oppressed.
So by drawing that fucking line in the sand, they all of a sudden stopped supporting Israel, which was shocking because when I was younger, Jews were Democrats without a doubt.
It wasn't even a question.
Yeah.
Like always voted Democrat.
And now you've seen, at least in the last like eight years, immediate switch, especially with Obama doing the Iran deal.
I think that that was a lot.
I think that was the last straw for us.
Abstaining on a UN vote in terms of what was that UN vote that he's just basically saying that treat people with human rights or treat people with human rights vote.
But you know what I'm saying?
So it's just like, yeah, we've noticed that that shift and it's really interesting in 2012, I think, at the Democratic National Convention, they did a vote of like, they're just going through the motions of like, we're all one of the votes was something like we stand with Israel over Palestine or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I heard a bunch of booze and I was like, what?
Yeah.
At the DNC, really?
And I, that, I was like, oh, shit, something's happening.
So I'm later than y'all.
But I was like, I remember that moment in my mind being like, oh, fuck, this is interesting.
Yeah.
I think it's starting to shift.
And now, to Mark's point, I don't know what you didn't really finish what's going on where you grew up.
I know they were very pro-Israel earlier.
Oh, so pretty pro-Palestinian or what?
Yeah, I mean, like, amongst my evangelical friends, like, I don't even necessarily, it was always like their parents, too.
Like, I obviously haven't kept up with my friends' parents, but like, I don't know if it's shifted, but just in terms of my immediate circle, like, even being in New York, it seems like it's definitely shifted.
Yeah, interesting.
And the concern.
Sorry, go.
No, but I don't know if there was necessarily so much of like unilateral fervor for like an Israeli state as a kid.
Like, I don't, I never felt like it was like an obvious thing.
I just recognized within my sub-community it was that way.
But I knew a lot of other people that it wasn't.
It just almost felt binary, and I knew nothing.
And I still don't really have much of a passion for geopolitical anything.
Yeah.
But it just felt kind of binary.
Israel is the guys that were on their team, and Palestine were not.
That's just what it felt like with the U.S. Like, that's it.
Yeah, it's just tricky and like concerning because when you have a religion that is also a country, it's hard to divide that identity.
Yeah, you know, especially now, anti-Semitism, care what anyone says, so much of this anti-Israel hate.
You hate the Jews.
I just so it's just like you just go, you just go, you just jump.
No, I make a distinction.
I don't have so many people don't.
It's Palestine and Jews, Israel.
You guys all look like cousins.
They're cousins.
Yeah.
So, like, it's tricky, man.
It is, it is very tricky.
I think that the Asians are going to stop getting hated on pretty soon.
And that hate is going to be funneled.
I funneled so much at that thought.
I was like, I wonder if this just shifts the ant from anti-Asian to anti-Semitism.
Yeah, maybe.
It just, but what's also weird is that it doesn't feel like they believe that there is, they've taken away the Jewish right to Israel.
I mean, or not to Jewish right, the right for Israel as a country that they're like, no, now it's back to all or nothing versus like, we want a country too.
It's like, no, no, no.
River to the sea is a very clear bar.
And I might be even less informed than most, but my very crude understanding was just like, dude, Israel just like popped up and the West was just like, hey, this is yours.
And then Palestinians are like, what the fuck is happening?
So there's a very crude understanding of them already, even before this, just getting moved off their homeland.
I know it's more nuanced than that, but I think that's a lot of people's very crude understanding: oh, yeah, they were there, and then Israel just popped up, and now they're just getting moved off.
So, yeah.
Look, I don't think that Israel is going to be winning the PR war anytime soon.
So, I'll wave the white flag on there.
And I'm fighting Puerto Rico at a certain point.
Like, we just have to be like.
It's too much for Jews running the media.
Step it up, Jews.
Like, where the fuck have they been?
They've been sleeping, huh?
We are getting bodied on this, but the resolve, I mean, this is the most unified I've seen Israel in many times, and Jews just around that.
We're like, wait, what?
I'm seeing Nazi flags mixed in to all this.
It's getting so bad, dude.
Yeah.
The media thing that I did think was interesting is that you can't find on any of the main.
Wait, what?
He said Nazi flags mixed in.
Oh, yeah, that shit will pop up for sure.
They always do that.
But like, there's on media headlines, like for all the major publications, it's always Israel-Hamas conflict.
And I do think it's interesting.
And I didn't realize because that Palestine is not recognized as a state amongst like all the media outlets that they can't say Israel versus Palestine.
So it's Israel versus Hamas.
And then I wonder how that affects people's perception of what the conflict is, where they go, oh, it's them versus like the terrorist group.
And I wonder if that's impacting people's perception.
No, no, they know.
I really am so shocked that there just hasn't been any distinction at all besides actually on major news sites, but in terms of like how people get their news from, you know, influencers.
Now, there's just no one's doing any work to at least give one ounce, and that is to say, oh, yeah, there are these rockets coming from this group.
Hamas.
That's it.
So again, I'm hoping for peace.
Yeah.
I love, I love everyone.
I love my Jews.
I love my Arabs.
I love.
Humor Solve Middle East00:02:09
What if?
FA, you're a fucking star.
We just relocate Israel to a better place.
Then everybody wins.
Bro, they were going to put it in fucking Rwanda or Uganda or some shit.
Give us somewhere in the Caribbean.
I think I could convince some people.
There's a book someone wrote about they put Israel in Alaska.
Like some guy just wrote a book, like what would have happened historically that was different.
They just put a fantasy book?
Yeah, it's a fantasy.
Someone's fantasy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, like, I guess it's not the homeland.
You know, it's just honestly, I think it's just too cold.
Give them.
Figure it out.
Aventura, you guys got it, bro.
That's you.
We got you guys.
They did kind of.
Yeah, now make it official.
You know what I mean?
Put them in Brooklyn.
Just give them all of Brooklyn.
They get the whole thing.
Come on up.
They're going to start feeling real Palestinian.
There's a river.
There's a river in Brooklyn.
That's close.
They like rivers.
Yeah.
And the sea.
That's awesome.
There's a sea train right there.
Yeah.
You're right there.
You're in it.
See, that's how we solve this.
Let's make fun of each other.
Humor.
Let's go to the Middle East and try to solve it with humor.
Humor and humos.
Let's try to start barking people into the show.
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