Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect Joe Rogan's vaccine controversy, debating whether healthy 21-year-olds need shots while acknowledging risks for others. They critique Rogan's interview with Dave Smith regarding untested long-term effects and herd immunity strategies, contrasting extreme anti-vaccine views with Edward Jenner's smallpox legacy. Amidst comedic chess debates and cultural stereotypes, the hosts ultimately argue that while young children shouldn't be forced, older teens and adults must vaccinate to restore normalcy and protect public health despite personal risks. [Automatically generated summary]
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Let's get it started, man.
Should kids have to get vaccinated because our boy Joe Rogan, the goat of goats, is going through it right now and coming for the go-to-goats.
What did Joe say?
Are we going to acknowledge Mark's cups or are we just going to keep on going?
No acknowledgement of the cups.
You didn't do the thing?
What?
Hit it?
Hit it.
All right, hit it one time, and then we can get into Joe Rogan.
All right.
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy.
On your mark, get set.
Go.
Pretty fucking good, though.
Pretty good.
Pretty fucking good.
Have you been vaccinated?
No, I haven't.
Okay, if you get vaccinated, you can knock a whole second off of that dude.
You really think so?
100%.
Once that tism hits, that's PEDs, I think.
Dude, that's the PED.
You guys PEDs for like weightlifting?
Not for weightlifting, but for like virgin activities?
I definitely think, dude.
Bowling?
100%.
Bowling, you'd probably get better at.
Chess?
Chess, 100%.
You'd get better at chest.
I actually did get better at chess.
After he got vaccinated.
After I got vaccinated, I got better at chess.
You've been smoothing it.
Mark is the worst chess player I've ever seen in my life.
I can see him being bad at chess.
No aluminum in my blood.
That's why.
Truly.
There's other reasons why I can see him being very bad at chess.
Why is that?
There's male and female characters.
He doesn't get a lot of chaff.
Checkers, he's a beast.
Guaranteed, dude.
I don't know.
Like, the king is nervous around the queen.
You know what I mean?
I only want to go a little bit.
I don't want to leave my cash.
He's so powerful.
You know what I mean?
Does that bug you about chess, actually?
That the queen can do whatever the fuck she wants.
She's got to sit there as the king.
Yeah, yeah.
But if the king goes, that's the match.
The queen can go.
But why is the queen just out there bodybagging, motherfucker?
Yeah.
But does that not piss you off a little?
Like, as a man.
If the king goes, it's done.
The king still runs it.
Does he, though?
I don't know if he does.
I don't know if he runs.
He's just this bitch who's imprisoned.
Yeah, it kind of does bother me about chess.
I'm done playing chess, guys.
Convinced me.
It's over.
Boys, no, let's talk about what happened with Rogan.
So basically, explain what's going on.
Explain this beef to us.
So Rogan had Dave Smith on his podcast.
Shout out to Dave.
Very funny comic.
Very, very smart guy.
Fucking hell.
And he's one of these guys that when he talks, you're almost always like, oh, that makes a lot of sense.
Yep.
I'm not saying everything, but for sure, from what I've heard, smart guy.
So Rogan said, essentially, people ask him, do you think there are any downsides to taking the vaccine?
He goes, no, I don't think so.
But he also wouldn't advise a healthy 21-year-old do it.
He said 21.
Yeah.
And then him and Dave start talking about how kids don't need to get the vaccine.
If you're at risk, you get the vaccine.
If not, don't worry about it.
Okay.
And that's...
Are we going to acknowledge things we need to acknowledge?
I can't open it.
My fingers aren't strong enough.
You don't got teeth, bro.
Say what?
You don't got teeth?
My teeth are resensitive since I got vaccinated.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, throw him.
Jeez up.
Fuck it.
But who did the better job?
I don't know.
I might have been thrown.
I just left my hands.
I raised the stakes, bro.
You just left your hand and that shit landed perfectly.
Oh, my God, dude.
All right.
Anyway, keep going.
It's the vax.
Did you get vaxxed?
I'm telling you, ever since I was vaxed, I had this pinpoint focus.
When the stakes are high, I'm able to just lock in, dude.
I'm fucking locked in right there.
Loud noises scare you a little?
Loud noises will scare me if I'm super focused.
It's like I'm an F1 driver.
Damn, yeah.
You had a great podcast episode with Jordan Peterson.
Was it pre-vax or post-vaxx?
That was post-vax, dude.
Post-vax.
Post-vax.
Mayor.
Miami, I'm vaxed.
We in here.
You know what I mean?
Since I got vaccinated, the podcast level stepped up a little bit since you got vaccinated.
Whole new deal.
That being said, if you're a kid, don't get vaxxed because Joe Rogan said not to, and we support him.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Whatever Joe says, do it.
Yep.
Uh-huh.
Hey, Joe has indirectly put so much money in my pocket.
How the fuck am I going to disagree with you?
I'm not disagreeing with that man, bro.
What is the argument against what that?
I actually agreed with, I don't think kids necessarily need to get vaccinated.
I think 21 and up, 18 and up, there's an age at which it's like, yo, now you need to get vaccinated.
And this way, we don't have to make the kids get vaccinated because enough business.
Okay, so is the argument for the kids getting vaccinated like, yo, they could carry it and then they can.
They could pass it to somebody older.
And then the idea is like the less people that can pass it, the quicker we get over this shit.
Correct.
That is the thing.
Exactly.
Okay, so I understand what people are saying with that.
But like a one-year-old kid, I don't think a one-year-old kid is just going and hanging out.
Maybe they're going to like daycare with other kids, et cetera.
I totally understand the parent who's going, listen, you barely even tested this fucking vaccine.
We don't know the long-term effects.
I don't want to stick it in my kid.
Can you not empathize with that?
I can empathize with that.
Mark actually has a great take on vaccines, which is...
Abort the babies and then you don't have to vaccinate them.
You're talking about this Catholic motherfucker?
Oh, yeah.
Sorry.
You're not part of it.
Okay, yeah.
Touch the baby.
Touch the baby.
And then, yeah.
Soak in the babies.
Then you're still a virgin.
Okay, go, go, go.
But basically, he's like, look, he doesn't necessarily agree with anti-vaxxers, but also people who shit on anti-vaxxers act like it's impossible.
There's any downsides at all to a vaccine whatsoever.
Every medicine on earth has side effects.
A vaccine probably has side effects.
I say, for the greater good, you should still get this vaccine like it wasn't that tested.
Okay, smallpox was decimating the world.
Who's the guy that?
You'd probably know his name.
I think he was Scottish right cowpox guy, Cowpus.
Yeah, the guy who Cowpus, the guy who created the cowpox.
Also, fuck you talking all that shit about Scotland when I didn't even know we did.
Yo, Scotland came through with bangers.
Bro, what you had?
Tv you like tv?
No no, this is tv now irrelevant.
Yeah, we made it so that could be small tvs.
We invented tv.
You ain't doing nothing.
Oh, golf.
Oh, let me go back into dment golf.
I've been taking credit for the nonsense.
You took inventory credit for zero bro, we invented all numbers.
All numbers is up, all the numbers.
I go from zero.
I didn't know enough.
You know, I grew up in white neighborhoods.
I just knew zero because my dad told me that dm this guy sent me bro, I got mad Dmbell from Indie, not Alexander Graham Bell, Scottish motherfucker, invented the graham cracker.
Come on bro, we was out here.
How you gonna have s'mores without Scottish people?
Suck it.
Nerded bells don't compare bells too.
Don't compare foods.
You know we got better food.
No, you don't.
Haggis, haggis.
Oh no, Scottish people don't have good food.
Yeah, we got better foods.
We invented eating bad food.
Yeah okay, y'all have that.
That's way easier harder, I mean.
So we invented eating no food.
That's my ass, damn it, god damn it.
You're bullying me right now.
I'm tired of this version of alcohol over the top, bro.
Scotland penicillin and insulin, oh penicillin insulin, take that.
And you know it was some bitch, some doctor bitch, some Joan of ARC OF Doctor.
Oh, we didn't have medicine.
You don't think we had medicine.
Who invented?
Uh, some kind of thing?
Madam Curie servant.
Yeah, Madam Curie, was she Scottish French, French?
Look at this motherfucker trying to sing me in conversation.
Did a man that was French do anything?
Did a man that the French do anything?
Bro, was there one man that was French that did anything?
No, Napoleon figure.
So Napoleon was from Italy.
Yes, he is, I looked it up.
Corsica is Italy.
That motherfucker was Italian and he went to France.
And of course, you could run shit.
If you're a time where a bunch of around, a bunch of bitch ass French people yeah, that's true, just come in and run it.
That's your.
You, that little 5'2 motherfucker.
Just come, body you out of your whole country.
A midget, run your whole country.
How pussy are French people?
Fuck, I gotta stay off of India because I don't know enough right now.
But for real, Alex, don't even get me started with Puerto Rico.
Yeah, don't even get us started on Puerto Rico.
Don't get me started with Puerto Rico.
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Okay, I won't.
And Dove, Morocco, oldest university in the world.
Come on, I'll hit it.
Fucking Morocco, bro.
Come on.
Yo, get out of the glasses.
Them little dumbass glasses y'all drink out of it.
Bro, you're the laziest instrument.
What?
It's a Morocco.
Fucking Japan.
Going through it.
It took all my time.
I stabbed Zach.
Now those brain cells had that Jordan Pearson conversation.
The guy's too fucking smart.
I was on my P's and Q's the whole time.
Yeah, you were locked in for that shit.
I was locked in.
I had my feet up all on the seat because I had all my blood flow up on my brain, bro.
Papa Addy for that.
Did I pop an add-roll?
No, I didn't, but I'm definitely doing that.
Did your brain ever wander anywhere else when he was giving a beautifully crafted answer?
100%.
I was like, what's the next question?
I was like, how do I act like I know what he's talking about?
And how do I ask a question that's somewhat related?
You were acting pretty good though.
You're not that guy today.
Yeah.
I was just staring at fucking dove the whole time, bro.
Whole time?
Piece of shit.
Bro, I love people recognize a dove.
We were out of the coffee place.
So it goes, oh, Mark, what's up, man?
And the truffle.
And then gave him a $5 bill.
You just gave it to him?
Yeah, with his name written on it, his Instagram handle.
And he goes, you won't throw away a five.
And it just gave it to Dove.
Did you?
He gave it to you.
Yo, try that shit with Donkey.
Try that shit.
Yeah.
I like Vengies.
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Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Did the guy really pay you $5 to get his Instagram?
No, Mark wants to flip the story.
The guy came offering tattoos to all of us.
Mark was like, Dove can't get one, Jew boy.
Yeah, because he wants to go.
Yeah.
I did.
Jew boy.
You did bring up Al.
Wait, are you the only person?
You're not going to get a tattoo.
Oh, so that's my five, is what you're saying.
Oh, shit.
I guess in a roundabout way, yeah.
Oh, shit.
You know, how he was always getting money as the middleman.
How do y'all do that?
Oh, my God.
I was getting a little perfect.
But yeah, so I represent the tattoo artist now.
But Al, you need something touched up?
Or are we getting group tattoos?
Yeah, we're definitely going to get group tattoos.
Group tats.
Yeah.
What are we going to get?
Not the sign of luck in India.
Is it luck or what is it?
Which one?
What's the swastika?
Oh, the swastika.
Yeah, fortune.
That's fortunate.
I guess it is.
I mean, what?
What?
Somewhat fortunate.
Hey, we didn't get got.
Fortunate for them.
What do you mean?
No, not by Hitler.
No, but right now you got got by accident.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's yeah.
Where's that symbol?
Are you guys running it with that symbol?
No, because Hitler ruined it.
You know what I mean?
Oh, so you guys are afraid to use your own shit that someone else took.
Wow.
I mean, listen, these guys get so triggered.
Bro, y'all are some cucks, bro.
Yo.
Y'all are some genuine cocks.
Am I talking to a Scott about cucks right now?
You literally are.
Hey, hey, who are you voting for?
Who's on your money?
Who's on your money, you bitch?
Who's on your money?
You bitch, you pussy.
Not William Wallace.
Y'all even have money, or you still trade like fucking goats and shit.
We got money, bro.
You don't have no money.
We got $10,000 bills.
Thanks, inflation.
Yeah, you should have kept that white bitch on the money.
Maybe worth something.
You put some fucking Indians on it.
Now it's worth nothing.
Bro, you put Gandhi on the money, bro.
That money's running thin right now.
Yeah.
Like his outfits.
Why you put the broke people on the money, bro?
We free.
We free.
Free from what?
Y'all can't take his deep breath.
Does the American not value freedom?
No, that's a fact.
Suddenly the American is so cool having other people on his money.
Oh my God.
You got an English on your money.
I need to decide what's more valuable being rich than being broke.
You bitch.
Yo, son.
Yo, son.
I'm getting killed right now, bro.
I'm really getting killed right now.
I'm not fucking India because y'all can't handle COVID.
Take a deep breath.
Everybody live outside anyway, you homeless fucks.
How the fuck you can't take some deep breaths?
Go outside, put a mask on.
Just take your outfit and put it up to here.
We've been trying, dog.
Literally, you wear a mask as an outfit.
Why can't you just wrap it around your face?
Take the fucking turban.
One wrap around the mouth.
You can't.
You ain't got no fucking population in Scotland.
Nobody lives there.
What are you talking about?
You jealous?
No, you ain't got no.
Jealous because we got some room?
Yeah.
You jealous because we got some room because y'all live on top of each other.
Everybody left.
Nobody left.
We never had nobody.
Yo.
Okay?
We didn't have no Kama Sutra.
You had people.
They left.
Who we had?
Whoever the English let live.
Motherfucker, they killed y'all.
Y'all repopulated just to die from breathing.
Did all this fucking for nothing.
Hey, we could come back with more people, too.
I bet population is still going up.
Honestly, I don't even think decline is not going to be declining.
They're not even India?
Decline of population.
You don't bet my money.
I looked it up.
Hindus, declining population.
Indian Muslims running that shit.
Y'all are gay.
I looked it up.
I looked it up.
Fastest growing population in India?
Muslims.
Okay.
Slowest growing, actually declining population.
No chance.
What is it?
Yes, it's true.
It is true, and it is a fact.
No, y'all got declining population.
Hey, by the way, everybody in India that's offended by me saying this right now, just kidding.
You can't afford this.
You broke fucks.
Okay?
With your people on the money.
Congrats.
Okay.
If white people aren't on the money, that shit ain't worth nothing, yo.
How are you going to put someone on the money whose whole mantra was like, oh, we don't need anything?
Good point, Mark.
Thank you, but you're a little late.
Okay?
I needed you for this gang up earlier.
Okay, Al.
And fuck it.
I was charging up our cops too much.
I was charging him up too much.
He was body of that motherfucker.
Body of this nigga's off.
I was sweating.
I was sweating.
You could have redirected back around and we would have got you, but.
But no, you didn't.
You waited too fucking long.
You tried to get in.
You got in your head.
You're hitting threes in garbage time, Mark.
Stop padding the stats.
I needed you 45 seconds ago when I was fucking out of breath.
Mark Madsen over here.
Yeah, I got to step up at the big moments.
That's my fault.
Fuck, I needed that one.
That would have been a good one.
It would have been a good one.
It would have been a good one.
But you talking about how we're all dying is pretty good, too.
Yeah, I guess that was pretty good.
But no, but for real, Indian, stop dying, yo.
That shit is mad pussy.
Oh, my God.
What?
India, we're going to be all right.
And the first thing we're going to do is rape Scotland for everything that works.
We're finna take Scotland from the British.
You know, Daddy gave us us.
You're too nervous about white women to rape Scotland, bro.
Y'all only rape your own.
You see a white woman.
We invented zero.
I'm not raping no white women, bro.
And I'm not raping any rape women.
Round two, round two.
You only raped your own.
White women is low.
Crown on crown rape is wrong, bro.
And it needs to stop.
I agree.
So let's go to Scotland.
Son, I'm telling you, hey, hey, don't fuck around with these Scottish bitches, bro.
Why?
These guys bitches don't play games, bro.
Because they're too unattractive.
You're not wrong.
All right, ding, ding, ding.
That's round two.
Al, what do we think of that one?
What'd you think?
Fuck, did I come back, bro?
I was on the ropes, I'm tired.
I was like, I'm on the ropes.
I'm sweating.
I need one.
Hey, you keep jabbing him with the ugly women thing?
You're going to get him, okay?
Okay.
He's stinging you with some of the white women's stuff.
The trump will not even pay attention.
I'm buying stock in Indian companies right now.
That's where I'm going right now.
No, that's a good one.
It's dropping.
That's a good move.
I'm betting on them for the century.
India's coming back.
I want India to win.
I want them to win too.
I want them to win.
But in this specific instance, I wouldn't mind if they all died.
Just this one.
If we left the podcast and it was like, oh, yeah, and accidentally a bomb went off and then India was gone.
Yeah.
There would be a moment where I would feel really bad.
And then as we were walking into the car, we'd all be like silent for about like five seconds.
Be like, now it looks like Scotland, you pussy.
No, I wouldn't even say that.
The exact same.
I just do Alex Media, bro.
I just like, that's all I need, dude.
Nothing more.
Nothing more needs to happen.
So like if Thano snapped the whole country off the map, which country would be?
Swedenby?
Sweden?
Yeah, 100% Sweden.
Why is Sweden?
What?
What's wrong with Sweden?
Because they locked up Alex.
Yeah, respect.
That's the only reason you're scared.
Also, he committed a crime.
No, he didn't.
Yeah, he did.
No, I didn't.
Why were you being black there?
That's a good point.
Holy shit.
You were black the whole time.
Yo, why the fuck were you being black in Sweden, bro?
I slept that much, right?
I didn't get the memo.
They didn't tell you.
Yeah, that's all you got.
We took a train in.
If we would have flew in, I would have saw you.
Al, we did not take a train to Sweden.
We did.
We flew into Sweden, okay?
You flew your black ass into Sweden, expecting not to get arrested.
You knew damn well what the fuck was going to happen, bro.
Yeah.
Thinking you could go into white bars, talk to white women.
What the fuck were you thinking, dude?
It's 2021, okay?
It's 2021 in Europe.
You said you're black barbecue now.
Yes.
Round one.
What you doing?
I don't got it.
I'll cast you up, dog.
Say anything.
I got you.
Say anything and I got you.
Anything.
Oh, my God.
He got you with that.
Got you with that, bro.
Split decision.
It's a mutiny.
It's a mutiny on the podcast.
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I hate this guy, bro.
You really get money, son, bro.
I'll get paid.
I owe you five bucks, though.
I do owe you five dollars.
I hate him.
I'll give you 10 if you keep the camera on me.
If you keep the camera on us, yeah, that's another thing.
I fucking hate this guy.
There's immunity happening, bro.
Muno's landscaping.
You want to get paid to say something?
What is happening?
He's going to let capitalism crush the podcast, dog.
That's not capitalism.
Yes, it is.
He's getting like $5.
That's illegal immigrant wages.
That's what I'm saying.
Dumbass over here.
It's a mafia.
Okay, listen.
Listen, can we get back to a serious topic right here about vaccines little fucking kids?
Okay.
Let's do it.
I think we need a dude.
Now I flipped.
We need a vaccine.
Even though I agree with everything Joe Rogan says, God bless, the goat.
Right.
But it's also, it's time.
Sometimes you see a kid being a little rambunctious.
I think we should be able to poke him up.
Should we not?
It's like a punitive thing.
You vaccinate him.
Yeah.
You want, yeah.
You get a warning, then you get a vax.
Yeah.
Which vax, though?
Say what?
Which vax should the kids get?
Depending, depending on, yeah, starts with a Medea.
But if you keep backing up, then you get all the way down to Johnson and Johnson.
Yep.
AstraZeneca.
Sputnik five.
AstraZeneca.
Sputnik.
You got to go with the Sputnik.
I heard Sputnik works, yo.
I don't even know what Sputnik was.
I thought that was a Russian.
You know, Russia had one out like dumb early, and we're all like, come on, we're not trusting some Russian vaccine.
I think it's like 94% effective, 93% effective.
I mean, that works.
Better than Johnson's and Johnson's.
Yeah.
Okay.
In all seriousness, what's the deal with this?
Do kids need to get vaccinated?
Are we even going to...
Why is this such a big deal?
Are they just attacking Joe because he is a powerful platform and they need to do that in order to control the people?
I mean, people were chirping at him.
Fauci, I think Biden.
Fauci even came at him?
Yeah, Fauci.
Fauci came at him, but it's like Biden did too.
The argument is like trying to get rid of it.
Biden came at Joe?
I think so.
Direct?
Yeah, direct, bro.
Hit him on Twitter?
I think in the DM or something.
I think he hit him on.
I think you said it in like a public statement or some shit like that.
Wow.
Okay.
What were you saying, Treville?
Just saying they're two separate arguments.
You cannot argue with Rogan's point that it really won't affect them and you should have the choice to do it.
But Fauci speaking on to get rid of the virus, you do need to vaccinate as many people as possible.
Okay.
So it wasn't Biden.
It was a Biden official.
Oh, Biden official.
Suck a dick.
We only go with the head.
We only go with the head of state.
Okay.
I completely understand.
We want to get back to normal as soon as possible.
I also understand what Joe is going through.
I understand what the government is going to say.
Listen, we just got to get as many people vaccinated as possible.
We care about the forward trajectory of this country.
We don't care about the 2% of people that could have negative side effects from this vaccine.
And technically, they can't because they have to worry about the 98%.
Yes.
Right.
So I understand why they're making that decision.
They have to just look at people as numbers, not as people.
Joe is looking at people as people, right?
And that's probably why we fucking love Joe because he's going, I understand why a mother or father wouldn't want to vaccinate their newborn kid.
Yeah.
Completely get that.
Didn't he say 21 years ago?
I disagree.
That's where I disagree with Joe.
Was when he was like, if you're 21 and you're healthy, you don't need to get vaccinated.
For the greater good.
You might not need to, but for the greater good, just do this.
Do you need to?
No.
You don't need to.
Like, you'll be able to make it.
You have asthma.
You beat that bitch.
Yeah.
Right?
Vitamin D, yo.
But you are out and about and you're going to spread it.
And that's the issue.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a tricky one.
It's like, how maybe that's that's a that's interesting.
Like, how badly do you personally want things to get back to normal?
If we all know the only way things get back to normal is if the amount of cases with coronavirus shrinks by a massive amount.
Who knows what it is right now?
But let's say it shrinks by like 50%, 75%.
We get that like herd immunity.
That's the way we get back to normal.
We know that the way to get back to normal is you start to get vaccinated.
If we do that, you're taking a risk.
You're taking that risk.
Something might happen to you or something might happen to your kids.
You have to decide if that risk is worth it.
Yeah.
If you want to get back to normal, but you're not willing to take the risk, I don't know if you could cry about how you want to get back to normal.
Yeah.
I think that's a good ass point.
I might be off on that.
And he was saying, like, jobs are making you get the vaccine.
Here's what I think a job could do.
They can't fire you for not getting a vaccine.
Right.
But you can't come into the office because I have to worry about everybody else in the office.
So I can't have you spreading it to everybody.
You're afraid to not get it, but you work from home.
People want to come back to the office and want to return to normal, get the vaccine.
I also think maybe that we're a little bit, for lack of a better word, jaded when it comes to this discussion because we've all had it, or at least you, me, and Al, you haven't yet?
No.
So you and I have had it and like, it was annoying, but we're okay.
Yeah.
So now that we know we're okay, we're kind of in the same way that we felt about Corona.
We're just like, well, just get it and get over it.
It wasn't that bad.
We had the same experience for the vaccine.
So because it hasn't hurt us just yet, who knows what happens 10 fucking 20 years?
We're just like, yo, everybody, get it.
It's fine.
It hurt your arm for a few days, then you're back to normal.
But maybe all it would take is hearing about a couple of adverse reactions.
And then we go, oh, fuck, I don't want my kid to potentially go through that.
Yeah.
It's tricky.
I don't, yeah, I don't think you should have to get a four-year-old vaccinated.
I don't think that should be required.
But I think there's an age, 13 or older, 18 or older, whatever it is, where if you want to do some shit in public, you need to have the vaccine.
18.
You're old enough to go to war.
You're only to get a vaccine for the greater good.
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