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March 26, 2021 - Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh
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Alex Jones Episode Was Removed: YouTube Responds | Flagrant 2 Patreon Clip

Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect YouTube's removal of their "greatest episode" featuring Alex Jones, which garnered two million views before being flagged for medical misinformation regarding vaccines causing cancer. They argue the takedown stems from advertiser refusal rather than censorship, noting Jones was simultaneously banned from Shopify and cut off from credit card access. While joking about using an impersonator to bypass filters, they conclude that this suppression likely triggered the Streisand effect, ironically driving more curiosity and downloads of the controversial content. [Automatically generated summary]

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Let's talk about a little update with the Alex Jones episode situation.
Greatest podcast in podcast history.
Facts.
Some might say.
I say it.
It's been said quite often.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, they hit 2 million views under a week.
YouTube takes it down.
Yeah, YouTube didn't think it was the greatest.
They didn't think it was the greatest.
Or they recognized it.
That's why they took it down, yo.
They took it down.
That's the mark of greatness.
We got censored.
I asked them why they took it down.
And I got an email back.
We have a guy over there at YouTube who's been very helpful for us.
I love fucking YouTube.
It's amazing.
I'm not trying to make this one of these things.
Like, YouTube is centering content creators and this, that, the other.
We say the craziest fucking shit in this podcast every single week.
We've never been censored.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's been pretty amazing.
One of our most successful episodes was titled Come Guzzling Whore or something like that.
Professional cum guzzler.
Professional cum guzzler.
And YouTube was like, we'll take that to a million.
You want some money?
Exactly.
They literally just let us run ads on that.
Wasn't even demonetized.
So YouTube has been absolutely fucking great for us.
Obviously, YouTube and Alex Jones beef.
Yes.
So them taking that episode down is a reflection of Alex Jones.
Yes.
Not really of their silencing of us or their censorship of us and Flagrant 2.
And they are silencing Alex Jones because that motherfucker was the wildest of boys saying some wild shit.
And most importantly, believable.
Yeah.
You can say wild shit and nobody believes you and you're not getting censored, right?
Like the black Israelites in Times Square say wild shit all the fucking time.
Nobody believes them.
So they go, yeah, just keep talking your shit.
They're all sending weird outfits.
Charismatic enough for us to watch.
Alex Jones is charismatic enough for you to watch.
Black Israelites need Alex Jones.
They need Alex Jones, bro.
He get the numbers.
Listen to his reparations take.
You might be on the same page.
And ultimately, he was affecting their money.
That YouTube's trying to sell ads.
They're trying to make money.
And Alex Jones was making advertisers go, oh, I don't want to be advertised on Alex Jones' thing.
I don't know if I want to keep on buying ads with you guys.
If you're going to put me on his stuff.
So YouTube.
Can you expand a little bit on that, Mark?
This is really good.
So I think like putting YouTube and just like stripping them of like a moral motivation is putting a financial motivation.
Like they want to pull Alex Jones off because they want to make the most money.
And by having this controversial guy on their platform, all these other people are being like, yo, we don't want to advertise with you if you're going to keep on pushing this guy and putting our ads on his videos.
YouTube's Money Motive 00:03:03
Right.
So for example, a video shoots a 2 million, right?
All these ads are on that video.
These advertisers might hit up YouTube directly and go, yo, why the fuck are you throwing me on this podcast?
They were doing it before when he was just having his own regular stuff.
InfoWars on YouTube.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
So they're doing it before and they're like, yo, what the fuck are you doing?
We don't want to be on this podcast.
Like, why are you advertising us with this guy who's saying these crazy things about the shootings at the school and the frogs turning gay and all this other stuff, right?
So YouTube goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not going to just let you rock on this platform and we can't make no money off of it.
We got to pay money for this platform.
So you got to pay to Piper.
And YouTube takes a very generous percentage of the ads, right?
Like when you see ads pop up while you're watching this shit, not the ones we're doing, the ones that YouTube puts, YouTube gets the lion's share of that shit, right?
Now, we get some money off it.
We're not mad.
It'd be great if we get more, but they get the vast majority.
Yeah.
Right.
So Mark's basically going, if the company's like, we're not about this shit.
We don't even want to advertise with you.
We don't even trust you.
Yeah.
It's easier for YouTube to just go, anytime this motherfucker is on a podcast, yank that shit down unless it is completely fact-checked every single word.
Yes.
Right.
And that's essentially what Joe had to do.
Joe had Jamie working overtime, right?
Like crazy Tasmanian devil, switching angles, Googling shit, looking stuff up.
It was unbelievable what he was able to do.
So glad you said off rip, we're not fact-checking because I had Google ready to go.
I was stressed, right?
And also, Al's a terrible Googler, bro.
That's true.
Yeah, sure.
Dude, it's miserable.
We tried looking up a clip on Monday and he was like, um, how do I like literally typing it in the duck duck god?
Like, you just learned about iCloud.
Shut the fuck up.
Jeeves.
Legit.
You had no idea.
So, whoopsie.
So we made sure that you know, we tried to set the precedent, like, yo, we're not going to do this.
They took down the episode what they said to us was for medical misinformation, which it absolutely was.
The first thing Alex started off was: the vaccination causes cancer.
He pretty much said it.
Yeah.
Now, that's wild.
It's fun.
It's fun.
But it's wild.
Yeah.
And it's also maybe true.
Who knows, right?
We don't know.
Max Kaiser facts.
Okay.
Max Kaiser.
Thank you.
Max Kaiser picked the CDC just last week.
Now, the crazy shit is that motherfuckers have been saying crazy stuff about the vaccine forever, right?
I mean, like, or not even about the vaccine, just about Corona.
Like, at one point, T.I. went on and he's like, I drink tea three times a day and hot tea kills the corona in your throat.
You remember when he went on and said that?
Now, he's not, his whole podcast and those whole platforms have taken down for medical misinformation.
Reality is a lot of us don't know what the fuck is going on here.
I don't think the vaccine causes cancer.
Matter of fact, I'm going to go on record and say it does not cause cancer.
Go get the vaccine.
Let's get back to normal as soon as possible.
But if in 20 years everybody's got the vaccine got cancer, my bad.
And we want our fucking YouTube video back up and an apology.
That's a fair.
That's a fair trade, actually.
Yeah.
Max Kaiser Vaccine Claims 00:03:28
No.
But you go.
I think YouTube also has to set an example because they see other people see how popular Alex Jones is.
And now other people are going to be like, oh shit, that's how you get on.
Let me just say a bunch of bullshit.
So now they got to be like, yo, chop his head off.
If you guys tried it again, same thing will happen.
Or they go, someone else is like, yo, let's have Alex Jones on our podcast.
Flavoring got crazy views.
Let's put it.
Yeah, exactly.
Same.
So everybody's going to want to do one with Alex.
But if they find out that your shit gets taken down in a few days, then they're like, oh, maybe it's not the same investment.
Now, are we going to have Alex Jones back on?
You bet your ass here, guys.
We got to have Alex Jones impersonated.
That's what we need.
It's not going to be really Alex Jones.
Shm Alex Bones is going to be on the show.
It'll be Alex Jones with two X's.
That's how you do it.
Who could this person be?
Alex Media Jones.
Alex Media Jones in the building.
So what we'll do for that next one when Al will come back, what we'll do is we'll ask YouTube, what can we say in the beginning that completely discredits everything anybody on this podcast says afterwards?
So we don't look as if we're trying to share medical information.
Because what we really want, and we've spoken about this, is we just want jokes.
Yes.
And Akash said this before.
He was like, Alex Jones is the funniest stand-up comedian in the world that has never done stand-up.
Yes.
Fact.
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Absolutely fucking hilarious.
So funny.
Absolutely hilarious.
Wild boy.
What stand-up isn't?
What great?
Richard Pryor was a wild boy.
See what you did, YouTube.
You guys defending Alex, man.
This is your fault.
It's their fault.
We got to have one of YouTube's lawyers sit in.
Yes, that would be fun.
And then we just got to turn to him and go, can we say that?
Recording Before Ban Wave 00:09:34
You know what?
That actually is a hilarious episode.
We just go wild thing after wild thing.
Can we say that?
Just watch that motherfucker swear.
And then at the end, he just reads everything that we said wrong.
I love this.
A long disclaimer at the end?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like we're selling like fucking pharmaceuticals or some shit.
Yeah, yeah.
So it could cause drowsiness.
Hey, you know, conspiracy theory, maybe why YouTube took it down?
Go.
Because who's ever made Alex seem more likable than us?
To the people.
Not the people that loved him.
They already loved him.
But the people that didn't.
I told him I was skeptical of having him on, but I knew it could make us money, so I did it.
So then I talked to him, and this motherfucker won me over.
And anybody, I think you said it.
You could not agree with anything he says, but you start to like him at the end of our day.
Oh, undeniable.
When did he win you over?
Before or after you sat on his line?
Right when I felt his big ass dick on my underdate.
The fat fat?
Oh, it's Alex Jones, dog.
I don't think he got a little one?
Yeah.
Come on.
I'm not sure.
I imagine it looks like him.
Just short, but stocky.
He got girth.
That man had girth.
I got girth, bro.
You could tell by looking.
But I think we made him too likable.
I think to objective people, they're going to start looking like, this guy's great.
Yeah, YouTube's like, we're not going to allow this rebrand, bro.
You're not going to do this.
You're not going to be regular.
You're not going to be cool.
You're not going to be fun for the family.
Interesting.
No.
To YouTube's credit, none of the clips came down.
I don't know if that's to YouTube's credit or so we don't have clips of.
Exactly.
There's no clips of that whole episode and most of the most exciting parts.
Those clips don't exist on YouTube.
No.
And the whole episode, this is, how do I say this?
The streets will always prosper.
You know what I'm saying?
The streets will always prosper.
If you try to ban some shit, it will become more popular.
Yeah, they made this legendary.
In 1080p.
In 1080p.
Sometimes 20, 720, a motherfucker offered that shit to me in 360.
I said, keep it.
That's just three.
Three blobs, bro.
What are you talking about?
This should look like Minecraft.
You don't want the Minecraft Alex Jones episode, buddy.
Keep that shit.
So the episode has been taken down.
But when motherfuckers know a crazy episode is about to come out, especially when you have a fan base as loyal and supportive as us, they get ahead of it.
Yes.
They go, this shit is so wild.
I might need to record this just in case it gets taken down.
Yeah.
The asshole army recorded the fuck out of this episode, bro.
And it may or may not exist on different YouTube pages.
We're not sure.
Yeah.
I'm not sure.
I can't confirm.
I can't deny.
I would never do such a thing, right?
Because then they'd probably take it down over there.
But it's possible that the greatest episode in podcast history still exists out there.
It's possible that what's called, I think, the Streisand effect has taken place.
The Streisan effect, apparently, Barbara Streisand wanted to remove a picture of herself from the internet, and that just made people search it even more.
When you try to censor something, you only make it more popular.
You only make it more searched.
So by taking it down, it could actually bite YouTube in the ass.
You want a book to be a bestseller?
What do you do?
You ban that motherfucker.
Ban that motherfucker.
Although, when we asked Alex Jones, have you gotten more popular since getting banned?
He was like, you remember that?
That's actually a good ass point.
But you know what?
I think it's.
You know what?
YouTube, you let me on to something.
No, I think it stops the wave.
But it doesn't stop the individual, like, you know, like, I don't know how this metaphor will work with the wave.
Yo, but yeah, but it wasn't like.
It stops the swell, maybe, but it doesn't stop the individual wave.
Yeah, where you're saying in his individual case, the wave got stopped.
Because no, the wave of the episode kept happening, but there weren't multiple episodes of people getting him on all their pods, et cetera.
Put it this way: they completely removed him from the internet.
They removed his fucking Shopify account and shit.
They removed his credit card.
He was like, Yo, you don't exist anymore.
You can't make no money.
You can't talk.
You can't do nothing.
Yeah, he's hanging out with Skype right now.
That's it.
Yeah.
So you say he's hanging out with Scotty Pippen?
Skype.
Oh, Skype.
I was like, what's Scotty Pippen doing?
Larsa?
That's true.
That was a big fuck up.
That's super simp shit right there.
Yeah, where's Derek Jackson Jr. relationship?
We need some help over there.
Probably fucking her, to be honest.
True.
So they removed him completely so he couldn't even continue the wave.
But if you have an episode taken down, like in our situation, it just creates more curiosity about the people that put out that episode.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Who is this podcast where the episode got tail?
What's up with these guys?
What's going on over here?
I mean, downloads have been fucking crazy.
Let's keep it a buck buck.
Download's been all right over here in these streets.
New people finding out about the flagrancy.
New people enjoying the flagrancy.
You know what I'm saying?
We had your boy Chris Hansen come on.
Yeah.
Shit is up there around a milli if you include audio and video.
So shouts to Chris Hansen.
Yes.
Yep.
You know?
Maybe we just got to have people on who don't like pedophiles a lot.
That's probably a good move.
Is that?
I think that's a good move.
Okay.
Who's next?
No Clinton will ever be on this podcast.
Would you have Ghalain Maxwell on?
Yeah.
Which I know it's cool.
That's the thing.
That's the opposite.
But I think it would get views.
A Ghelain Maxwell interview would be unfucking believable, bro.
We would get murdered for sure.
We got to have Alex Jones come on and dress up like Ghelane Maxwell.
That's the movie.
That would be the greatest interview in history.
I'm calling Alex the second this podcast is done.
We are having him on and he's going to dress up as Ghalain Maxwell.
He's going to keep his exact voice when they're going to do a fucking interview.
That still might be medical misinformation.
You're 100% right.
You're 100 fucking percent right.
Him dressing up as her is medically informative, misinformative.
It is misinformative.
God damn it.
Medical misinformation.
Yeah.
It's the Rico laws of YouTube.
It is the Rico law.
Oh, that's a good point.
The bust of headlight.
It is that.
It's the excuse to take something down.
Yeah.
YouTube knows there's so much fucking misinformation on this platform.
They're 100% aware of it.
They just need a reason to take some shit down that they don't want to get too much heat.
Yeah.
And on some level, I fucking understand it.
Yeah.
Like they had so many opportunities to take our shit down in the past for just being wild boys, but they didn't because they're like, they don't have bad intentions and they say what they are.
They're a comedy podcast.
I think most importantly, advertisers weren't terrified of that in the same way they're scared of Alex Jones.
So, these other random conspiracy guys, even if they're really big, if they might get a half a million, a million views on a video, they're not as terrifying to advertisers.
That's it.
So, don't piss off the advertisers.
So, if you're going to be a conspiracy theorist, don't get so big to where advertisers are afraid of you.
Don't make the block.
Don't make the block out.
Figure out who the advertisers are for YouTube and the advertisers that end up on your channel.
And then do not be conspiratorial about them at all.
They may be like, Bounty are the best paper tools to clean up a body that just got buried by the Clintons.
That guy's in the forest, the bounty guy.
I heard he's in the forest looking for pedophiles.
Yeah, Bohemian Grove, bro.
He's literally going through Bohemia Grove.
So, yeah, so that's the deal with the Alex Shonzepp.
We know a lot of people have been reaching out, asking to see it, etc.
That's the back and forth we've had with YouTube.
We've asked them for the information, the medical misinformation in the episode section that we could just clip out and put it back up.
We're waiting for a response about that.
If they do come back and they say, Hey, we can remove that section of the podcast and then put it back up, we're going to put it back up for your viewing pleasure.
Absolutely not.
If not, it may or may not be up somewhere on YouTube still.
We do not know.
We do not know.
Maybe if we can get a copy of it in decent quality, maybe that ends up on patreon.com/slash flavoring2.
You know, biggest comedy Patreon in the world.
Maybe.
Maybe.
That goes up there with a little disclaimer, which is: do not trust any medical information on this whole fucking podcast.
Do not trust any information from any of us ever.
Ever.
From us.
Feelings, no facts.
Remember that.
Okay?
You fact-checkers.
Maybe that's why they're so pissed.
I wish I had feelings.
I wish I could feel things about the videos I watched.
Imagine being a fact-checker, dude.
Imagine being someone who's watching this very video.
The most boring job.
I feel bad for him.
Do you?
Yeah, I do.
Why?
Because I'm kind of fact-checkers.
You know the misery.
I understand the fan.
You don't have many facts I checked.
I don't even say.
I go, yeah.
All right.
I just stopped.
Do you remember the early days?
I was fact-checking all the time, typing away.
Technically, dude, technically is the worst way to start a sentence.
I hate it, dude.
I hate it.
I'm going to shoot at you.
I said, you're my president Bush if you start a sentence with technically.
I think I'll stop fact-checking.
Literally, after one time, when I said it technically, and Akash just goes, ugh.
I swear to God.
Do you remember that episode?
I forgot what happened.
You literally were like, oh, no.
I think you just go, yo, shut the fuck up.
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds about like.
And I was like, but the Vikings didn't come here until the 1200s.
We had about that technicality, right?
Knockout over here.
We don't win by technicality or that.
Facts.
Facts.
K-O-T-K-O.
We're not leaving it up to the refs.
Yeah.
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