Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh debate Biden's appointment of a trans woman as Health Secretary, contrasting merit-based competence with performative diversity signaling. They argue that critics will weaponize accusations of transphobia to avoid judging qualifications, creating a political shield similar to how institutions protect figures like Greta Thunberg. The hosts compare American cultural reactions to British neutrality regarding such appointments, suggesting the decision hinges on whether high-stakes roles demand genuine skill over symbolic representation in an increasingly polarized landscape. [Automatically generated summary]
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So Biden hired her this to be like the health secretary of the country.
Okay.
Right.
And she was the health secretary of Pennsylvania.
Okay.
And I guess, you know, she was a him and now she's a her.
And obviously people are reacting like, oh, this is some like progressive move and this is what America is going to look like.
And this is like an overcorrection of diversity and this kind of shit like that.
I actually say no.
You can be progressive and diverse in jobs that don't matter.
Hollywood is meaningless.
So you can make every superhero a black Muslim trans person if you want because it means that there's no stakes.
Right?
That's what she looks like, right?
Right there.
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No, you dude, Alex's beat-off hand started shaking the second that bitch came up and he knocked off his coffee.
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All right, I remember the last thing I said before Alex spilled a whole Starbucks onto the desk, but the reality is, I'm not tripping off this appointment.
What I was trying to say is, like, in meaningless jobs, jobs that don't matter at all, you can be progressive about stuff because there's no stakes.
Right.
Do you know how good you got to be at your job to be like the health advisor?
Yeah.
To be an astronaut.
We're not getting progressive with astronaut.
Like, if there's a chick astronaut, that bitch is nice at astronauting.
You know?
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So I assume this girl, I assume she's got to be like even way better than the next best person to make up for the fact that she's trans.
Come on.
I really believe it because you don't want to play no games.
Because if she fucks up, imagine how pissed off people are going to be with the trans person.
This is what happens when you put some crazy trans person during a pandemic.
During a pandemic.
That's valid.
Like they'll crush Biden on it.
There couldn't be a more important appointment for Joe Biden right now than the health advisor.
He thought this through and was like, this is merit-based.
Bruh.
I bet you he's like, do we really got to go with the like?
Is there nobody else is as good?
And then it turns out there wasn't.
She's that much better than everybody else.
I completely disagree.
Okay, go.
I think.
But do you hear what I'm saying?
The logic is sound.
The reason why I disagree, it's like you put someone you can't attack in a role that's also sound logic.
Because now if you come at this person and say anything having to do with their gender or anything like that, you're not focusing on the issue.
Here's what I would say to that, though.
Oh, shit.
Here's what I would say to that.
Death trumps all that shit.
If people are dying, you don't give a fuck anymore.
Yeah, but you still have to just focus on the issue.
That's a good point, though.
No, no.
Half of the people in this country won't be critical because they'll feel like they're transphobic.
So they won't say a single thing.
They're like, oh, she's doing her best, blah, blah, blah.
Where if it was like a white male, they'd be like, well, this is what happened when the patriarchy is in control of a pandemic and people end up dying.
People have died for years.
Interesting point.
But the other half of the country is going to doubly blame Biden for this, but he don't give a fuck about them because they're not voting for him in the first place.
So she's a shield for what they know is going to be continued fucked up in this of Corona.
And if that other half says anything about her gender, they're transphobic.
They're transphobic.
So they're not judging her based off of all the jobs she's doing.
They just say transphobia.
Yo, this is low cheat.
This is genius.
The left-wing institution is now using the progressive values that they pretend to care about as a shield for their shitty politics.
As they've been doing.
You brought that point up, like with the Thumbberg and all that type of stuff.
Greta Thunberg.
Yeah.
Greta and like the game control kids.
Oh my God.
Yeah, yeah.
You just can't be critical of the kids.
So they did that with issues and now they're like, oh, shit, let's just bring this into the cabinet.
And now everybody I appoint is fucking hit.
Here's what I would bring up, though.
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Another thing you've said.
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Flopping.
You know what I mean?
As you said, the majority of the country is moderate.
Moderate people aren't going to give a fuck.
If we're dying, that moderate majority is going to be like, I don't care what this fucking gender is in this bitch.
She's ruining everything.
I don't care.
But they're going to have to qualify it, though.
Yeah, they're going to qualify.
And then they're going to say, I don't care what they're doing.
I have nothing against trans people, but then they might.
Weirdo is killing all my family members.
That's what they're going to say.
That's what they would say.
I wouldn't say that.
I would never say that.
That's what they're going to say.
In Cincinnati, that's what they're going to say.
In Buffalo, that's what they're going to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Can you do that?
Yeah.
I think you can.
Is that allowed to be said?
Okay.
I think we're going to.
All right.
Why the hell is she in control?
Okay.
Having enough people disappear.
Hasn't she taken enough control?
She already got taken out of God's hands.
Yeah.
Here's what they'll say.
You didn't really make your balls disappear.
You made my uncle disappear, too.
Okay?
Bring them both back.
Is what those fucks are.
It's what those assholes are.
Those terrible people, yeah.
Exactly.
That are so insensitive.
Yeah.
When this is someone who truly knows what they're doing.
Pennsylvania.
She was the health advisor for Pennsylvania.
How did Pennsylvania handle the pandemic?
Amazing.
It was fine.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Huh?
Is that a fact?
I need to double-check, but I think that's still open.
I think she got elected in a Republican district.
Bro, the Republican senators had state senators had to okay her.
They were on board.
That's how nice she is.
She's nice.
If she's nice based on what you do at Pennsylvania, I'm on board.
Who gives a fuck?
You know how fucked up?
This is how fucked up culture is is when we see someone get hired in this situation, we're so used to people who aren't as good being hired because they represent diversity, right?
Yeah.
By the left, at least, right?
We're so used to that seeing in jobs that don't mean anything, like TV, et cetera.
Like, we need Superman to be black, or we need all these other things.
Like, we're so used to these progressive acts that when we see it happen, the knee-jerk reaction is, oh, this is just about progressivism.
It's performative.
Instead of going, oh, this person's really talented.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't know.
It's just kind of, it sucks that that's like the knee-jerk reaction to things.
Like, if Idris Elba becomes the next Bond, I just want it to be because that motherfucker is nice.
Yeah, he is.
He's nice with it.
And he's fine as fuck.
And he's kind of cute.
You know, had that early COVID, bodied it.
Yeah.
When that shit was raw, uncut, COVID.
That was nice.
Slanging dick, had his shorty with him.
You remember that?
We didn't even know.
Everybody was like, yo, COVID kills.
That bitch was like, I'm not leaving this dick.
This motherfucker about to be bombed.
We should make Idris Elba health secretary.
I'm with that.
But he got to speak like Stringer Bell.
He can't keep that English accent.
That would be fire.
Yeah.
I'll pay attention then.
Kind of a smart movie.
You know what's crazy is that if minorities do that diversity play, we feel that that person's super qualified.
Like the HBCU that hired an Asian editor-in-chief.
We're like, this bitch must be amazing if they didn't go with the black person for this job.
So it's like, why is it the opposite if white people do that?
Because black people don't have to prove that they're not racist.
White liberals got to prove that they're not racist.
So you're like, you look at them skeptically, like, oh, you're just doing this to prove you're progressive.
I hate that.
That even got to prove progressiveness.
I hate that that's me.
Yeah.
I hate that that's the knee-jerk reaction.
Like, it's fucking dumb.
Like, I hate like...
We could change that.
No, we should.
But it's like, for example, The Bachelor, right?
We've all been watching The Bachelor, greatest show on television.
This guy, Matt James, right?
Victoria the GOAT.
Shout out to Vic.
You know what I'm saying?
But Matt James is The Bachelor, right?
The guy is a little simpy, but he's a fantastic bachelor.
But before this, the reaction amongst a lot of white people was, oh, because of Black Lives Matter, we need to have a Black Bachelor and it has to be this.
Well, the time it was pretty crazy.
And I'm not saying that that didn't take into account.
It might have.
And it might have been the reason.
I just think it sucks that we have to have that be our knee-jerk answer because, or reaction, because when you watch the show, you realize, oh, this motherfucker is actually like the cookie cutter bachelor.
Yeah.
Peter was terrible.
Just getting fucking aggressive.
We needed somebody that has good points.
It makes me, it makes me wonder, though, that seems like it only happens in America, though.
Like, if I'm watching British TV and I see like some fucking, like, some Indian, whatever.
Very true.
I go, oh, yeah, that's just.
Yeah, that's what they do.
Yeah, it doesn't feel like a diversity play when I'm watching like UK shows.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Do you think they feel that way too?
Or go.
It might be because we're not as familiar with the pulse of the culture there.
So if you're there, you might be like, yo, I know how liberal and fucking, you got 100 genders in Britain to 63 here.
Like you're doing this thing to be progressive.
But we don't know that.
We're here.
We don't give a fuck what they're doing.
So we look at them like, oh, it must be merit.
Also, like, I don't know how good Great Britain is at getting people to buy into being British as their identity.
You know, like America, whether we're good at it or not, we kind of allow people to keep their own identity when they come here.
You know what I mean?
Like, and then some people opt in.
Like, you could say like Indians, I think you've even said this before, like Indians make a choice.
They're like, should we be kind of white about it?
Should we be kind of black about it?
Or whatever.
Right.
But like, Mexicans can be Mexican, a Mexican-American, but like, that can be like a cultural distinction for their community.
Whereas like I noticed like Canada, people honor their cultures, but they all kind of seem Canadian.
Yeah.
Like even like the Jamaican Canadians, like when they're like saying shit like, oh yeah, there's a ting over there and that, they're like, that's fine.
But like, do you want to go to Timmy Hortons and get some donut bowls?
They like break that character a bit and then become Canadian.
And maybe it's because Canada does a much better job at going, hey, we're all in this together.
We don't have the same history of hatred and racism and slavery that America does.
And we're going to make a real effort to let every know everybody but know that they have an opportunity for the same things here.
So maybe it's easier to opt in.
I don't know, Al.
What do you think?
It's hard.
I love Canada for that, but I don't know why it's like that.
As a black dude, you felt that same way.
And it's not to say like black dudes there are acting white.
I just see them as acting Canadian.
Yeah.
Does that make sense?
It might make sense.
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