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May 29, 2020 - Flagrant - Andrew Schulz & Akaash Singh
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Akash Singh, Alex Mee, and Mark Gagnon dissect Minneapolis looting as "modern-day hunting," debating strategies like daylight raids and disguises while targeting electronics over cash. They pivot to an "agent provocateur" conspiracy linking the AutoZone fire to a tactic designed to discredit protests, shift focus from police brutality to rioting, and justify gentrification through business destruction. Ultimately, the clip suggests authorities may engineer chaos to legitimize harsh enforcement, framing civil unrest as a calculated tool for systemic change rather than spontaneous outrage. [Automatically generated summary]

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Looting Hierarchy in Minneapolis 00:14:41
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You know, a lot of crazy shit going on in the world right now.
Looting in Minneapolis, or as Charlamagne calls it, Minneapolis.
That shit was hilarious.
Yeah, he kept calling it Minneapolis.
And I know someone's going to cut footage of him saying, man, it's foul what's happening in Minneapolis.
And it's just me going, I'm not laughing at the looting and the destruction.
I'm laughing at him calling it Minneapolis.
Now, obviously a lot of crazy shit going on with all the looting.
Question.
If you loot and you bring home food for your family.
Yeah.
Does your girl consider that effort?
Hey, hey, let me tell you something.
Is that effort?
Because that's effort.
She's probably going to be like, I mean, there's TVs at Target too.
You couldn't grab the TV while you're at it.
Yo, I'm all about effort, bro.
I really understand effort now.
They were making some effort in Minneapolis.
Did y'all see the effort?
Yo, that shit is effort.
What do they always complain about?
Minnie Day hunting.
Say what?
That's modern-day hunting.
That's modern-day hunting.
And, bro, what do people in Minneapolis always complain about?
How cold it is, right?
Everything on fire.
Right?
That's got to increase the temperature a little tiny bit, right?
Minneapolis must at least have gone up a few degrees.
Hey.
Yo, let's be honest.
How soon into the looting?
Because we all know we're all looting.
How soon into the looting are you looting?
Like, is it...
My only concern is I could get fucked up.
There is no, I'm not going to pretend there's any moral like, well, I'm not paying for things.
My concern is I might get got if I walk out with something too nice.
Can I say something?
Can I say something about this?
What's interesting?
When it's Black Friday, they got fights.
Yeah.
But looting?
Matt Patrick.
What do you think about everybody?
Hey, looting.
Having a good time, Sharon.
Looting is civil unrest, really.
Unrest, they breaking shit.
It's civil.
It's a little civil.
Is that your Dyson?
All right, you got that.
Isn't it more in stock in the back?
You check the back?
Hey.
You're talking to them like in France.
Hey, you got somebody in there like this.
One flat screen per person.
They're following the arrows still on the ray.
They're going along with everything.
Son, everything's been working out.
Looting is a trick.
This shit is supermarket sweeps.
Do you remember Supermarket Sweeps?
Do you remember Supermarket Sweeps?
That shit was so lit.
I didn't give a fuck about groceries, but I was like, everything's free.
All right, if you're looting, what do you go get?
That's okay.
So first off, how soon into the looting are you jumping in?
We all know we're jumping in.
I got to see people that look weaker than me looting and be like, all right, cool.
Okay.
First woman to go in.
You're going in?
Not the first woman.
It'd be one of these big-ass Samoan bitches.
You got that.
I'm not ready yet.
A little Chinese girl going in there.
Hey, bitch.
I'm ready.
All right.
How soon into looting are you joining Lunic?
And all right, go.
So the group has to be big.
You got to be big because if the group's too small.
Yeah, first.
If the group is too small.
Then you could still get got.
Okay.
I know.
Mark.
I think it depends on the time of day.
That would dictate daylight.
Daylight?
Full daylight.
Actually, I only loot during the daylight.
I don't feel comfortable at night.
That's more scary.
Only loot during daylight.
100%.
Daylight.
And low-key, I'm walking in there and I'm going, hey, what's going on there?
Hey, start picking stuff off the ground.
Hey, hey, where is this supposed to go?
Hey, we gotta clean up in there.
Yo, they're gonna follow you like they follow that motherfucker at AutoZone.
Are you a cop?
Tell me, you're not a cop.
We're gonna get into that little auto.
I would get a shopping cart.
You would get a shopping cart.
You wouldn't do it with the shopping cart.
Would you carry around a broom so you could act as if you're cleaning it up if the cops come in?
Yeah, I would put on a red, a red polo.
Y'all are fine.
Y'all are fine if the cops come.
I'm worried about y'all when cops aren't there.
Say again.
But here's the thing: if you, this is what happens with looting, which is why it's so beautiful.
If I'm carrying some shit you want, beautiful, and then you take it from me, right?
I know where I got it.
I know where I listen.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm not even going to have it.
It's not even going to be a big deal.
You got this one, bro.
I'm going back to it.
Go to the source.
I'm going to the source.
You got the PlayStation 2.
First of all, are there any men?
MPS5 was outrageous.
They are lucky.
Whoa.
Yo, if you work in one of these places, you're better off looting at the place you work.
100%.
Because you know where everything is.
Where everything is, and when the cops show up, you go, man, isn't this crazy?
That's exactly what I was going to say.
I was like, I'll look for a uniform or whatever store I'm in.
Yeah.
Throw that bitch on and be like, son, I was just working.
I was always in my shift.
It's four in the morning.
You're like, yeah, night shift.
Also, do greeters stop working?
It's just your job to greet.
You got security.
What stores do you shop at?
Walmart got greeted.
That's all I know.
Really?
I've never really been together.
I'm not a warmer, too.
Ain't no Walmart greeter working.
No, but think about it.
You got to do your job still.
Your job isn't to protect the store.
Maybe at Walmart, they still make you do your job, but I'm not sure.
I'm in Walmart, bro.
Welcome me.
Welcome me.
You think that's why they started looting?
Say what?
They walked into Target and they were like, nothing.
Son.
Yeah.
We can't get there.
I think they started looting for a different reason, Mark.
I don't know if they've been following the news at all.
It might have been that.
No justice, no greets.
No justice.
No greets.
But for real, think about it.
Looting.
Looting is kind of how humans operate with nature.
It's actually in our DNA.
It's the most important thing.
When you come across a tree with mad oranges in it, you take them shits.
As many as you can carry.
No checkout.
Yeah, we call it harvesting.
Harvesting.
That's all people are doing is harvesting.
This is harvesting.
They're harvesting Target.
First of all, don't name your store that if you don't want to be the first place we go.
That's a good ass point, y'all.
They're targeting us.
No shit.
The logo's a bullseye.
Of course, you're going to get it first.
Yo, black people are probably just going there to talk about how they felt.
Yeah.
We're better to talk about how we feel like Targets than Target.
Then Target.
You think the black people are going to go to KKK, Mark?
What's all the other stories?
I guarantee you this motherfucker is protecting Kmart right now.
They're not going to let it happen.
Ain't no blue light special over here, yo.
What's a blue light?
The cops!
I'm telling you.
K-More was fucking thirsty.
K-Mart knew it the whole fucking time.
Here goes the supermarket sweeps us.
Yo.
We're not supposed to have this much fun about what's happening in Minneapolis.
So now what are you guys getting?
Say again?
What?
What do you guys take?
Where am I going?
First thing?
Yeah, what's first thing?
Candy.
There is a hierarchy of shit that you're going to take inside the store.
Are you calling your mom and be like, Mom, do you need anything?
Yeah, 100%.
You have to.
You are.
Yeah.
You have to.
But then you can miss out on a lot of the good shit.
You call her on the way, yo.
Plan ahead a little bit.
No, no, no.
A loot does not happen like, yo, we're about to loot.
You're protesting.
Somebody busts open a window.
A few people go in there.
They start grabbing shit.
And you're like, well, I don't want to be.
The motherfucker ain't got shit.
Hey, look, you can.
Yeah, like, you can't do multiple stores.
It's one store.
Yeah, we in there.
You buy this shit out.
This is Black Friday for real.
We're planning this out.
There's no planning.
There's no planning.
You need to plan now so that when it happens, like, that's the move.
That's the move.
Flat screen TVs.
I'm going to let my mom know in advance.
Hey, crazy.
That's like you make, you get 800 bucks, maybe.
And you have to carry this giant.
Okay, what's more valuable?
I would get as many SD cards as possible.
SD cards?
They're so cheap nowadays.
No, they're mad expensive.
You get the big ones where it's like 200 gigs.
That's behind the case.
All right.
He made one of them smart answers.
Because I know when I was on supermarket sweeps, I wasn't on it, but I was imagining it.
I'm like, I'm getting all that fucking Captain Crunch.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I was like, I'm going to get all that Captain Crunch.
And then these bitches out here, they get steaks and all that kind of shit that causes way more.
So SD cards is good.
What's something else that's expensive?
That's and portable.
And little.
And little.
I'm going immediately to the jewelry store.
That's that's good.
Yeah, Bargain's jewelry section.
No, no, no.
Fucking loser.
Keep it.
What are you talking about?
We're not talking about it.
This is almost real Sterling Silver.
Are we only talking Target?
I thought we talked at any store.
Nah, it's whatever's being looted.
Currently, I think it's just a department store or something like that, like a ball.
What's being looted?
Okay, okay.
So I see people trying to break into the cash registers with sledgehammers.
I ain't got no $50, bro.
You have $50.
It pays cash at Target.
And that's mad luck.
Mexicans, that's it.
Yeah, wait, what?
Mexicans be paying cash everywhere, yo.
They get paid in cash, bro.
Hey, they pay cash.
That's what I'm saying.
They all got that W2.
W dos.
All right.
All right.
I'm trying to think of what I would get.
Fuck, what's the most expensive thing?
I'd tell you.
I'm not trying to.
I'm not trying to come up crazy on money.
Get you a little camera.
I don't think camcorder.
Oh, maybe you could like break the thing.
A lot of shit they keep in the back.
The SD card is behind the fucking case.
And it gets easy to steal cameras, bro.
You could break the case, but you're not going to find cameras.
Like, even the cameras they put out in the spot, I don't know if those are legit.
No, but they're all in a bat.
That's right.
They're all on the bat.
So you can't get.
Are we going straight to the back?
We go in the back, son.
What do you mean to say, yeah?
No, we in a front of the store.
Okay, serious question.
When enough people commit a crime at the same time, oh, Ryan.
Uh-huh.
Does no one get arrested?
Bro, what can you do?
I'm kind of thinking.
I mean, you could look through the footage.
They got to have all the footage.
Son.
But everyone's wearing masks.
Literally.
What?
Maybe the first thing I'd get because I saw people in that store.
They didn't have a mask.
Wait, what kind of mask would you get?
Probably want to cover my face, Mark.
Are you talking about like a medical mask or like an actual?
No, like a robber.
I would get a robber mask so that they couldn't tell my identity.
Yeah.
But you got to go in the store.
To get the robber mask.
Robber mask.
I'd also get a sweatshirt.
What?
I'd get some clothing or apparel so that I would go in as one person and then come out as a different person.
Ooh, that's that being said.
Get the hair dye too?
Get the hair dye.
I'm switching it up.
I'm coming out of there, Joker.
You're going to use all your time dying your fucking hair?
My whole shit up.
All I got was a $5 ball of fucking hair dye.
You're walking out of your PlayStation 5.
I walk out ready to go.
Let's do some loot is just cops at me.
Like Eminem fucking no, but for real, if enough people commit crime at the same time, does nobody go down?
Fucking Dwayne Wade's robbing this target.
What's going on?
Poor Dwayne Wade trying to have, you know, be supportive of his kid, bro.
Hey, man, he really wasted that shit.
He wasted the whole PR move and got swallowed up in the new cycle, right?
Oh my God, that's so Dwayne Wade made himself gay to support his kid.
Nobody even cares anymore.
And there's a whole ride in Minnie in Annapolis.
Hey, we don't got time for trans rights yet, bro.
This shit really reminded us.
Y'all down the line.
We got to give rights to other people before we get to y'all.
Oh, my God.
That's true.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had to run it back.
Remind y'all.
Remind it.
Now, Dwayne Wade, bro, he had to protest with fucking pink hair looking like this.
Like, come on, y'all.
He's all fired, dog.
Oh, my God, dog.
This is crazy time.
Okay, but in all seriousness, breaking the law together.
What is the rule in that?
I don't think if there's more people breaking the law than there are cops, you all get away.
No, they just grab some and then you just kind of like run.
You just hope that you're not one of them.
It's a raffle.
That's lit.
SD cards.
I don't know, but black top and camera.
Running with all the black people.
10G's.
Fuck am I just cooked?
Cal just brought up a great goddamn point.
Oh, damn.
Thank you.
You're all going to stick out in the riots.
Not stick out.
If we're running away from the cops, who do you think they're going to catch up to first?
Oh, that's a good point, bro.
I'm going to be wheezing.
Hands on my knees.
Also, Minneapolis got all these Somalis.
You know, they could fucking run in a fast pace forever.
They don't need no food.
They just keep going.
Dog, there was this one video of this Somali chick.
They threw tear gas, the can, and the Somali chick ran up, grabbed the tear gas can, and threw that shit back.
And everybody's like, oh my gosh, she's so brave.
Like, she didn't do that in her country for fucking years before she came here.
You don't think she had experience?
She went like this.
She went.
Tear gas number two.
Like, when I'm walking in my apartment and I smell Indian food, that's how she responded to the tear gas.
Like, hey, man, this reminds me of childhood growing up.
Don't grab it from the top.
I didn't call my mom.
Oh, boy.
Anyway, well, I'm glad we could have some fun with that.
Hey, man, we found the fun in that.
Nah, it is kind of crazy what's going on.
So, this morning we come in, we're discussing what we're going to talk about.
And a little conspiracy theory pops up that maybe the fire in the riots that started in Minneapolis, the fire might have been caused by a singular person wanting to incite the riots, a white guy, right?
Agent Provocateur Conspiracy Theories 00:03:23
Now, his race is important, but also not important depending on who you want, who you think benefits the most from controlling these riots.
So, like, the assumption, I think, is what, that this is government planned.
Let's put on the Tim Foil hat.
Let's get crazy.
Let's do like what the crazy conspiracy theorist is.
The conspiracy theorists would say that the government, yes, or like local police force or like basically some sort of government authority.
What the historical precedent for it is like what they call an agent provocateur.
Okay.
And like, there's like actual verified events of this happening, like Russia, even in the UK.
That's a lingerie brand, son.
Yeah, I know.
That's literally a lingerie brand.
They took it from them.
I mean, the lingerie brand took it from the name that existed.
Wow.
You ain't never bought your girl no agent provocateur?
Nah, you buy her that Victoria's Secret, that Epstein shit?
Yeah.
Of course I do, bro.
My girl's small.
Yeah, my girl's skinny.
Son, do they make kids long?
Nah, forget it.
Forget it.
And there's a reason they like their girl skinny.
You know what I mean?
All right, go on, going back to Asian Provox.
I like that you thought that I was talking about the lingerie.
The lingerie, I thought you were talking about that lingerie.
I'm like, there's a story about Adam and Eve.
You're like, the lingerie brand?
Oh, no, no.
That's a sex brand.
Sex website.
They sell dildos.
You think the Bible took it from them?
You think any girl stole a dildo during that loot?
Yeah, bro.
The ones that are walking funny?
Probably.
Probably.
They dumped the bag on the fucking table.
We got everything.
This big old fucking rabbit.
That's probably the thing that got stolen the most because these gay bitches are going to be the most ready to loot.
They're going to be the most bold with it.
And they got the most pockets in their pants.
That's true, yo.
They're wearing fucking jean coats out there.
They're wearing jean coats with the dungarees.
You're just throwing it inside.
What are those called?
Overalls?
Dungarees.
It's so white.
So dungarees, bro.
I can't remember the last time I said that.
Dungarees, dog.
What happened to dungarees?
I honestly don't know what dungarees are.
Every lesbian looks like Antifa a little.
Tim Duncan wears dungarees.
You look like it, yo.
Shit.
That's a brand or type of gene.
I think it's a brand, I think.
No, I think it's a thing.
Like, you're not over.
Let me tell you something.
It's a thing like with the strap.
Is dungarees a type of thing like that?
Or that's just a brand?
I think it's a type of thing like that.
Shut up.
All right, you go.
No, in all seriousness.
In all seriousness, bro.
That's the first thing I'm looting.
I'm going to the dungarees section.
I'm passing people who got PS4 as an ex-box eye.
And I'm like, look.
I'm like, y'all seen any dungarees, bro?
She goes, yeah, they're in the back, locked up.
We might have to bust through and get them dungarees.
All right, go back.
Agent Provocateur.
Go.
Yeah.
So it's like a legit thing, apparently, that basically the core of the definition is like it's a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them by partaking in an illegal act.
And so this happened in the U.S. a couple times.
Like they say that the FBI poses agents.
Auto Zone Explosive Traps 00:05:51
This is from Wikipedia.
FBI poses agents to disrupt civil protests and activities, including the Ku Klux Klan, the American Indian Movement, and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.
This is the I don't know if this is the handout in my pocket or something like that, right?
Is that what they alleged happened with that with Malcolm X?
Yeah.
I'm not sure about that.
Now, this is the same as astro turfing?
Kind of.
Astro turfing would be like implementing like information to create a movement.
Whereas this would be going into a pre-existing protest.
Real quick, a grassroots movement would be an organic independent movement, right?
Kind of like us, right?
Organic, independent movie, pushing back against, you know, cancel culture, having fun, say what you want on podcasts.
Astro turfing would be if some company like Comedy Central paid us essentially to do that, right?
Is that right?
They paid us and they like, you know, put up all the money.
They created all the systems, et cetera.
But made it look like it was organic.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah.
But they were like, don't mention us at all.
Right.
But you just keep it.
I can't.
Gotcha.
But this thing actually happened in 2013.
This officer was arrested and sentenced to two years in prison for second-degree assault, coercion, riot, and criminal mischief at a motorcycle rally and literally went in, was like breaking windows and like starting all sorts of shit.
Right.
So the assumption is, and clarify, is that there's this guy, and there's a video of it.
You guys can check it out on Twitter.
Matter of fact, we can play it in a second.
Matter of fact, why don't you just play it with no audio while we're talking over it?
So this guy is seen during the day before the auto zone is on fire, obviously, leaving the auto zone.
He's got a full umbrella.
He's got a full gas mask.
He's got goggles, backpack, gloves, everything.
He's seen leaving the auto zone.
Apparently, he broke a window in the audio zone.
Later that day, the auto zone is on fire.
There's a building on fire, et cetera.
So people are going, why the fuck was he in there?
He doesn't seem like he's part of the protest.
The people who were protesting are trying to check him, and he's walking away from them and arguing with them.
Can't really see his identity because he got all this shit over his face.
But some people are saying maybe he put some explosive shit inside the auto zone.
Now, what is the benefit?
You guys were explaining this to me before the podcast, but why would the government, the police force, the CIA, the FBI, whoever the fuck, why would they do this during a protest?
What would be the point of it?
So it basically would incentivize, like, they're trying to incentivize people that are already angry to do violent and like to do violent criminal activities to then discredit their movement and their protests.
Right.
So it's a PR move.
It is a PR move on the behalf on behalf of the government, right, or the police force or whatever it is, because you want to move or shift the conversation away from police brutality and this innocent black man that was murdered to look how hostile and violent these protesters are.
Yeah.
And then you start.
You start seeing, you see all these people.
Maybe it was just hate retweets, but all these people being like, yo, I accept your right to civilly protest, but when you start rioting and looting, you lose all credibility with me.
Like that exact tweet I'm seeing everywhere.
And I think it also gives the authorities a reason to go in with force.
So they can't just go in with force when people are peacefully protesting because you look like a bunch of douchebags.
You just killed a black guy, right?
Innocent black guy, choked him out to death, and then you're just going to start shooting rubber bullets at innocent protesters that are protesting something that shouldn't have happened in the first place.
The Constitution protects peaceful protests.
Peaceful protests and the right to assembly.
So how do you stop that?
So how do you stop that?
You stop it from being peaceful.
Take away that peaceful word.
And then the conversation ends up becoming more about these riots than it is about the murder of an innocent man.
And right now you see that's what's happening.
All the airwaves are, even us right now, we're discussing the riots.
We're not discussing the murder of the innocent man.
And in some people's minds, as Akash was saying, it justifies the harsh treatment of people because people who have nothing to do or know nothing about the case start saying, well, maybe this is why the police got to be so harsh because you see what they're doing.
They're looting.
They're rioting or whatever.
It's really interesting.
Not to mention it also would have like it likely affects the community that's affected by the police brutality.
Yes.
That's something you guys were saying earlier as well.
It takes jobs away from black people that worked at the Target or whoever it is.
You blow up the auto zone.
Who does that affect?
It doesn't affect the rich white people.
It doesn't affect the rich Indians or the rich Asians.
Nope.
It doesn't even affect the rich black people, right?
It affects the poor people, black, white, Asian, Indian, whoever, who are in that one.
People seem to riot locally.
And when you locally destroy your businesses, that fucks up your business.
And then other businesses are going to be scared to come in there.
And then if you are the powers that be, you can say, you know what?
They'll fuck up their own property value 10, 15 years down the road.
We'll just buy it back super cheap, build high rises on it or whatever.
It'll just expedite gentrification.
Like, that's fine.
We'll just buy it cheaper.
So maybe we got to get information out there.
Maybe we got to get information out there about why you can't fall for this trap and how you can't.
It's not about not looting.
I like civil unrest, to be honest with you.
I mean, I think it's fucked up that there's, you know, private businesses that are being destroyed because of this.
Hopefully they have insurance and they can build all these things back up.
But I hope nobody's lives are lost or anything like that.
That being said, I like people fucking shit up to let the government know that like, hey, you can't just get away with everything.
We get angry and we break shit and you're going to have to deal with that.
So, we're going to need our feelings addressed, and we're going to need you to be accountable, or else you're going to have to handle a lot more shit.
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