Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the Lakers' turmoil, labeling GM Rob Pelinka a "pathological liar" who manipulates Magic Johnson into a figurehead role while spreading damaging rumors. They critique Pelinka's insincere reaction to Kawhi Leonard and Kyrie Irving's free agency, debating whether LeBron James can retain Kawhi or if the star will join him in Los Angeles. The conversation expands to trade scenarios involving the Grizzlies, NBA Finals predictions between the Bucks and Warriors, and Deontay Wilder's knockout power, ultimately framing the season as a chaotic mix of betrayal, strategic maneuvering, and athletic dominance. [Automatically generated summary]
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I know that I know Akash and Kaz want to chop it up about Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
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Patreon Support and Hangovers00:13:16
I actually wanted.
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I wanted Kaz and you to come as well because we had Weezy there as well.
But I was so violently hungover from NASA, too.
I had never been this hungover my entire life.
What happened?
Cheap, was it cheap liquor?
I think drank too much.
There is this fucking towat.
Okay.
This towat at this weird Kid Rocks bar, if that tells you anything about how drunk we were.
I was about to say, like, yeah, you've already given us a talk.
Kid Rock?
I wish.
So this girl, I asked for 10 shots of Jameson.
Okay.
Not for me.
Okay.
But for there were some comics there who were, you know, just hanging out.
And I see her pour the shots with not Jameson with like the bootleg shitty whiskey.
Yeah.
And I go, hey, I just asked for, and it's not that.
She goes, no, it was Jameson.
And I go, no, it wasn't.
I just looked.
And then she reaches into the garbage and picks up a bottle of Jameson.
And I go, I can see how there might be Jameson in the garbage.
You have a bar.
There's good chances it's going to be there, but you did not.
And then she just goes, Do you want him or not?
And I was like, Yeah.
You fucking beat me, bitch.
I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, what am I going to do?
I got to wait another 30 minutes for a bartender to give me some attention.
But you should put down life's draw for a car.
You want to get drunk or not?
You bodied me, bro.
I was so bodied by that girl.
Yeah, you should have got drunk at the club, dog, son.
Well, we did that too.
Okay.
And I think that's why I was violently.
That's why you didn't make it.
Oh, my God.
So violent.
He didn't come in here looking like Ace Ventura, very sweaty.
Yo, that was first of all.
I wish that he'd say he made fun.
I would have laughed more, but he made that fun of me already.
But I do look like Ace Ventura in his outfit, but it had nothing on my show drip, Al.
Yo, these videos you guys are putting out are great.
Oh, that's the factory shit.
Yeah, the March videos.
Yeah, I got that shit, bro.
I'm kind of jealous.
I'm not in one of those videos.
I kind of want to be in one.
Oh, we're going to have y'all.
We're going to be in one.
We're going to have y'all living.
So who choreographed it?
Was it you?
I'll be honest.
I did choreography.
I didn't choreograph it.
I'm the white man choreography.
I'll be honest, I think you hit the moves a little better than Alex.
Of course, if he called the moves, I'm just saying.
No, I'm just saying he moved a little bit more fluidly.
Come on, you're a little bit more.
He was like Jagger.
That wasn't even dancing.
That was a karate.
I'm just saying.
You the karate expert fired me.
Fuck yeah, man.
I took you to like count while you were dancing.
I was like, oh man.
You did take that personally.
Of course.
Someone was like, yo, they're saying that you outdanced me on the episode.
I was like, yes, I got single and I'll dance you.
I got roasted, but that was the only thing I cared about.
Now, after we did the video, he had a moment with himself in his blackness.
He was like, man, I'm going to get killed for this, bro.
Like, I saw him take a moment.
How many takes?
Was it?
Was it one ticket?
One take to go.
You're bugging, bro.
You're bugging.
You got to take at least two takes.
You got to look at that.
Would Beyonce go with one take if it was a good take?
Yes.
No, she wasn't going to take a look at it.
Who's Beyonce's husband?
First of all, Beyonce was careful.
She clearly won take.
She could have done better.
That's right.
Wow.
That's right.
She won't take her marriage, son.
You could have rewaned that.
I'm not laughing.
They all take two of the marriage.
He cheated his take two.
4-4-1 at the beginning of take two.
4-1-1.
Nah.
But he was violently hungover.
But the drip, I had my purple drip going, my single mom outfit.
It was hard.
Son, you have a picture of that for me?
No.
I asked you for the picture for me on stage.
You videotaped the whole show.
What did he think about his dance moves?
And the cards are in.
I bet that's Phil.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
We never brought those back.
No.
They weren't in the cams?
Nope.
You take it out?
I take them out the can.
Wow.
Damn.
Trying to be prepared, and then I left him in records.
I got to admit, this is how drunk we were.
Can I tell you?
And then we're going to get to so we missed our flight, right?
Which is normal when you hung over, right?
But we missed our flight from inside the airport.
You did outside.
We were eating chicken tenders, right?
And we're like, the flight's at 1210.
It's like 12.01.
We're like, nah, we got that.
They're going to close the doors on us.
We rolled up there, like, nah, we gave away your seats.
Oh, shit.
They closed the door.
They didn't check in from the middle.
We were checked in.
We were in the airport.
But you still checking from your phone, so it don't get to the point.
It don't matter.
Yeah, they close the door at least 10 minutes before the flight takes off.
Son gave away our seats.
We're looking at the plane.
It's still there.
Someone else in our fucking seats.
So happy.
They're so happy.
Like, I got so happy I got to catch this flight.
These guys missed it.
It's like sheer joy for them.
Their joy is our desperation.
Like we're on a slanky or some shit.
So we missed the flight.
I got to spend $1,000 to get a new flight so we can come back.
Still the most violently hungover I've ever been.
Alex books the tickets.
Of course, there's two seats left on the flight.
Okay.
One is seat 18D, which is window seat.
And the other seat 20D, which is window seat, but at the back of the plane where the seat doesn't move back.
Okay?
Flights I paid for.
Yeah.
You went to the back like a gentleman, as you should.
This motherfucker put me right in the back.
As you should.
I didn't pick the seats, nigga.
Ain't it funny how when you got some power, you send everybody else to the back seat?
Ain't that something?
Alex, I'm a black man.
I cannot be treated like this as a black man.
Man, it was so bad.
Bro, this is how old I am.
My neck is sore from headbanging at the club.
I was dancing music going like that.
And the next day I woke up, I was like, yo, watch my neck is sore, though.
I was kidding rocking it.
Yeah, you wilding.
I heard Nashville is dope, though.
That's right.
It's like Vegas for the first time.
Nashville is my new family city.
Princess Fried Chicken.
You hit Princess.
I hit Prince's first time.
Asshole's still sore from Princess.
That OG joint.
The OG joint.
That OG.
No, no, the OG.
It's unbelievable.
Yes, real dead.
We have a story.
I heard Nashville dope.
No, no, don't repeat the story.
Don't repeat the story.
Save for Patreon.
Save for Patreon.
Let me tell you.
Stop.
I can't get a clue.
Nah, it was like it was a Franks and B situation over there.
Take it to the story.
Say the Patreon.
Save it for the Patreon.
When I tell you, when I tell you something, there is something I could do to make him cry laughing at any point in time for the rest of our lives.
I'm a black man.
There's something I could do.
He's already listening to me.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Don't do that.
When I tell you, what we saw was so like, this man is such a piece of shit, but we're all pieces shit.
But at one point in time, my man is laughing.
It is very Franks and B situation.
At one point in time, my man was laughing so hard, and I said one thing to him, right?
Yeah.
He walked out the restaurant and he walked up the block.
Usually, I've seen people get up out of the chair and walk away.
We just saw him walking up the block to nowhere.
I had to keep logging to the last stop.
We'll tell it on Patreon.
We'll just meet it immediately after.
It'll be up for one week on Patreon and then it's gone.
Yeah, but all right, so I kind of see where this is going.
Yeah, this is some shit you want to forget about yourself.
Yep.
Anyways, Nashville, amazing city, yo.
Dead ass, one of the best cities.
He's still laughing.
He's still laughing.
Are you kidding?
That's all story.
We can't do that here.
Multiple times laughter until tears.
But not just when it happened once.
On the retelling of it, laughter to tears.
Constantly.
He's trying right now.
Look at him.
You cannot imagine.
Camera can't see this, but Alex is fucking turned to the corner of the room with his sweatshirt over his mouth and head, trying not to laugh.
He's hysterically.
I'm a good person.
I'm a good person, dude.
Yo, you know what?
I'm a white man.
Yo, I was waiting for somebody to break that out one day.
I wanted to do it, bro.
I'm so glad you're busy too.
It's just legit.
Stop.
Legit.
Legit.
One of the wildest things.
You know what?
Don't even tell me off podcast.
I want you to tell.
I want you to say that.
I'm going with a live reaction to this.
I want this live on Patreon.
I need to know this story.
It's going downs.
That's all I got to say.
That's all I got to say.
It's going downs.
That's it.
I'm going to talk about it.
I feel hot already.
So I feel hot already.
I feel hot already.
I'm feeling it.
Just how funny is this on the spectrum of just put it on a spectrum for me?
Can I tell you something?
Yeah.
It's not even that funny.
It's just awful.
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
This is how awful it was.
I was like feeling real good on the second show.
And there was a moment where I was about to bring it up, right?
And I'll tell what happened.
Say what happened.
You saw it.
He second-guessed himself on stage.
And he stopped himself from telling the story because it was that bad.
Wow.
He was waiting for me to laugh out loud if that would have been an okay to tell a story.
Because usually, if it's an inside thing amongst us, you get a little laugh from your boy, right?
Your boy's like, ha ha.
All right, I'll go through that.
Exactly.
And I was like, so we were eating chicken egg, man.
And I just waited and I heard nothing.
I was like, hey, man, it was some good chicken anyway.
Son, in my head, I'm just like, please don't, please don't.
Don't do this.
Son, if you think that we lean in here on the live show, it's full tilt.
A lot of shows are Patreon.
Right.
Like live, right?
Because it's live.
Nobody's there.
Nobody can tell anybody.
Nobody's recording.
Whatever, right?
There's no proof, right?
So we lean the foot.
And I even had to pull back.
Because there was nothing.
I couldn't find it.
You could?
The fuck you do?
Yo, go.
Now you got to sit there.
I just got to sit.
I got a couple minutes ago.
Let's see the penalty box.
He looks so small, son.
Son, that's a good idea.
Yo, y'all are good?
I don't know how does it work.
He looks a little chicken.
That's a great idea.
If somebody fucks up in some way on the show, you got to drop the seat and sit on the lower seat.
Let's go to the penalty box.
Oh, wow.
That is fucking hilarious.
Seven minutes in the penalty box.
Okay, so then Patreon, it's quick.
Bro, it's almost to the point where, like, I think we might put up just a video of that in the Patreon and we'll leave it up there for a little bit.
And then take it up.
And then we take it up.
So it'll be just, and then the rest of the episode.
I trust the Patreon.
I trust that.
This is why we're limited to number.
So we can have these things up there forever.
All right.
This is crazy.
Son.
I tried to find the funny in it.
Bro, we've done eight minutes on regular episodes.
No, no, no.
Oh, my God.
No, watch this.
Watch this.
Watch this.
Oh, man.
You see?
He can't handle it.
It's just one thing.
Once y'all find out what it is, it's over, dude.
Come on, come on.
Let's switch it.
Switch it.
Yo, Patreon.
Yo, tune into the Patreon.
He was doing this.
He was going to be doing it.
Did he want to keep looking?
I caught it.
Don't get in trouble.
I'm not going to get in trouble.
I'm not going to get in trouble.
He wanted to keep looking.
He'd be looking at me.
I could tell he was looking at me just so he could look away, kind of look past me.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's kind of wild, bro.
He's taking his shirt off.
He doesn't turn it off.
Yo.
All right.
We're dead.
He's actually hot.
He's behind the camera.
He's hot here.
But yo, that's funny.
Maybe my comedic specialty is finding the funny in the unfunny.
That might be what people know me as.
I'm on stage like this.
That's a terrible version.
And it was just raw awful.
Anyway, we'll get into it on the face.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited.
I don't want to know until the Patreon.
Oh, man.
I've never seen your reactions when I said any joke.
It was crazy.
Oh, God.
Anyway, all right.
Let's go back.
Let's go back.
We're right now.
Game of Thrones.
Akash was not happy.
I think that you made very good points about why you hated it.
Even though I liked it, I said that I thought your points were all 100% valid.
Breaking Bad Ending Thoughts00:14:37
First of all, Bran being the king is stupid as fuck.
Explain why.
He's been a good point of view.
He's had zero emotion.
He doesn't want anything this whole time.
He's autistic the entire time.
Then all of a sudden, they ask about him being king.
Do you want to be king?
He says, Why do you think I came all this way here?
Yeah.
Suddenly, you want to be king?
First of all, you didn't come anywhere.
You got your retarded ass wheeled to the fucking meeting.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Second of all, why do you suddenly want to be king?
This is completely, what's it not parallel with the story?
He's a pain-in-the-ass wife.
Where do you want to eat?
I don't care.
Well, why are we at Red Lobster?
Because that's what I wanted.
Just make up your fucking mind, Bran.
Same of all, in the speech where Tyrion says Bran should be king, he starts the speech by saying, Yeah, I'm an idiot.
I've been wrong a lot.
I don't know anything.
I thought I was smart.
I'm not.
Don't take advice from me anymore.
But I'll tell you, you should be king.
Don't take advice with me.
Here's our future.
And then everyone takes his advice.
He just said not to.
Yeah, yeah.
Also, the dragons melting the throne was so fucking corny, dog.
I thought it would have been kind of cool if he tried to burn Jon Snow and he just couldn't.
Because he's a Targaryen.
Is that why you can't be?
Somebody told me that was the reason that a dragon can't burn or kill another Targaryen.
They're like immune to fire.
Remember, what's her name?
Daenerys at the beginning when she had the 3-8 dragon, and she burned it all and then she survived the fire.
So I thought that would have been kind of cool at least.
And I thought maybe he didn't burn him because he's a Targaryen.
He didn't go at him.
But then melting the throne symbolically is so fucking.
It was just lazy writing.
Right.
And that's what bothered me.
Game of Thrones has always been entertaining.
That wasn't even entertaining.
Is there any argument?
Sorry, go.
It just was.
That's just lazy writing.
I agree with you.
Is there anything redeeming about the idea like he wasn't melting the throne as like a way to support Danny, but rather as a way to break the wheel, which was Danny's prophecy or whatever?
But even then, why does the dragon know that?
He's a dog.
Like, I love my dog.
My dog's not that smart.
Right.
So that was my issue.
It was like, how smart is a dragon?
Like, is a dragon smart enough to know that, you know, Danny really cares about this chair, but not smart enough to know that she was murdered?
Yeah.
Right?
Like, there's a little conflict of interest there, right?
Yeah.
But I hear you.
Yeah, yeah.
It would make more sense why she flew off and like ate him.
Did she eat something?
One of my favorite memes was: you know that Russell Westminster?
Russell Westbrook's like.
So, you know, the Russell West when he's on the bench and he's like, he's eating his little popcorn, like, sneaking it like that.
And then it was like Drogon when he lands after taking Danny away from King's Landing.
Yo, let me tell you something.
One of the most incredible parts of Game of Thrones was Black Twitter finding it.
Yeah.
Right?
And finding it for this last season.
Once Black Twitter gets a hold of a show, it's a whole nother level of entertainment.
Yes, because the memes, the gifts, and all these things start coming in.
Like, I didn't, it's obvious.
I didn't watch a lot of the show.
I didn't watch any of the seasons episode of this last season.
But I saw so many memes, I felt like I knew the gist of what was going on.
Because I speak fluent meme.
Like, if I had to watch a whole fucking seven season, I'm like, no, I'm not going to watch this.
But yeah, no, I agree with Akash.
That's why I didn't think the last episode was that great because I don't know the show like that, but I do know good TV.
Right.
And it just wasn't entertaining.
Like, I didn't feel like there was any real stance.
It's so lazy.
I didn't really think like that.
Lazy writing bothers me.
What else did you dislike about it?
I mean, that's the most important part is Brandon being king.
You watch it.
Also, why are they all sitting together at a fucking campfire?
I don't understand how we got here.
That's basically a democracy, and then they don't, that's not going to happen.
I thought it was funny, though, that they scoffed at the idea of democracy.
I thought that was a funny moment.
And when she sat his ass down, you know, I've been through sit down.
Yeah, that was so far.
That was good.
This is a funny meme I just said.
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And me, why do you think I came all this way?
Bro, it has a whole other element to it.
That's all you need, goddammit.
There's, look, look, my friend also pointed out Robbie Slovak is a writer, and he's just like, I hate when writers suck their own dick.
And then in the episode, they talk about the importance of story.
And he's like, bro, we get it.
You're a writer.
Like, you don't need to write it in.
But you brought up a good point about how that is valuable information.
Oh, 100%.
100% valuable.
There's, what is this?
Whoever opens the book next to Brianne of Didn't Let the Inks Right Tarth is going to be like, oh, that's fun.
Yo, but what we were talking about Western Bros.
That was a wasted scene.
That was three minutes unnecessary.
Him adjusting the fucking seats.
Yo, this is the last episode.
You put this in fucking season three.
Just the last episode.
I don't need four minutes of you adjusting the seats and then everybody addressing their titles.
The Brianna Tar thing we were saying about what she was really writing.
And they were saying.
Oh, that was a lot of good memes.
Yeah, yeah.
But we were going on, just going off on it.
I forgot what somebody said.
It was something like it was talking about hit it and quit it.
Yeah, exactly.
Like if she was a real girl that got ghosted, she did get medieval ghosted.
And like, you're not going to write great reviews on the dick.
You know what I mean?
That's trash.
Probably only fits in his sister.
So there were some things that were trash about it, absolutely, but it did inspire an interesting conversation we thought we'd have on a podcast.
Cersei was the perfect fit for Jamie.
Like, anatomically speaking, like, it don't get no better.
I had a joke about that back in the day.
How about brother and sister?
That's what fits perfect.
But it's so true.
But we got to go back to the idea of the show.
It inspired an interesting combo, which was what was the best finish?
What was the best close of a series?
And, you know, I think the best close of any show that I've ever seen was Breaking Bad.
That's what I saw.
Yeah, I was going to agree.
It was between Breaking Bad and The Wire to me.
I love The Wire.
I thought that Breaking Bad was better because the last three episodes of Breaking Bad, everyone got better and every T was crossed and I was dotted and it just kept elevating everything.
Even the final scene.
Even like the little shit that you didn't even really care about, it all came back full circle at the end.
Everything made sense.
There was no stone left unturned.
It was the most satisfying finish.
And it still hits, man.
Yeah.
Yo, you go back and watch it now.
You're still like, God, I can't wait for this motherfucker.
There's a scene.
Like, the references in that show, this is what, how many years removed were we from Breaking Bad?
God, six years, probably.
Seven years, right?
Just this weekend, I was saying about like, like, before a girl comes, she looks like Hector Salamanca in the scene where he dies, you know?
Trying to talk or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Suicide.
And, bro, that thing didn't get shit hit in an audience.
That's seven years old.
God damn.
It's such a good show.
Every season got better than the last season.
I've never had it seen a TV show that did that.
And I was like one of the dudes telling everybody about Breaking Bad as soon as I found it.
So my cousin was like, oh, you're just butthurt about Game of Thrones.
I was like, nah, I've because it's sad.
He was saying you're just sad, it's over.
So you're right.
I've loved Breaking Bad.
It was so sad it was over, but that was the perfect ending.
It was perfect.
It was so good.
It was so good.
It made me watch Better Call Saul and made me look at it from a different lens.
How was that?
I had no interest in that.
I didn't care so much for it as a show, but I did care about as Gus.
You know what I mean?
Because I always thought, I was tweeting this out there.
I was like, I always thought Gus was the good guy.
Bad motherfucker.
Out of the whole show.
And if you look at it at that lens and you look at Walter White as the bad guy from the beginning of the series, it's a whole completely different show.
It's a whole completely different way.
And if you could do that with any form of any form of entertainment, you're golden.
That's what I got.
I got to question Bogzilla's expertise because he said Breaking Bash was trash.
Yeah, he said he didn't like it.
He said it didn't hold up for Augzilla, but he got to sit down for that.
Not at all.
He had some interesting takes, though.
He has this take about, did I say this on the right?
About how this whole thing was orchestrated.
It was Sansa, it was the real G of it this whole time, and how she was pulling strings to get her family in the power position.
And that's actually what ended up happening.
So every move that she was making was a manipulation technique to get a stark in King's Landing.
She ends up getting brand there.
A stark in the north, the Wildlings.
John ends up going there.
She's the Queen of Winterfell.
And then she has Arya going to check out the new lands.
And like, if they were, if they were, did the due diligence and did this show over two seasons instead of six episodes, I think you would have seen Sansa turn into the Cersei because she was cooked up by Littlefinger and Cersei.
Of course.
You know, she came under Popovich.
Right.
You know what I mean?
And Ramsey.
And right?
So she's like, Kawhi.
You know, like, and now you see Kawhi with the Raptors and he's going down.
Yeah.
So I'm going to tell you this.
Another show that doesn't get the credit as far as like a great series finales.
Yeah.
Boy Meets World.
See, I just wanted to watch the end.
Good.
You know what?
I just watched it recently, actually.
Okay.
What'd you think of it?
It was good, right?
I didn't like the show when I was a kid.
Yeah.
But I was watching it now.
Are you watching Boy Meets World recently?
What's the wrong boys?
It's a classic show.
Why would you not want to watch it?
Whatever.
Grown adult?
That was a show for kids.
Yeah, no.
First off, I just happened like my girl was watching something else, and then we started watching that.
First off, Boyd Meets World for Kids.
It's a good fucking show, all right?
It's got a lot of good lessons to learn.
That's not a shit.
Especially when they get older, they deal with a lot of real shit, like with Homeboy and the Legends.
It was actually a motorcycle accident.
Yeah, everybody says it's a good show, and I'm the one guy who's like, I didn't like it as a kid.
So I was like, try it again.
So I didn't watch the whole thing, but I watched like episodes here and then I watched the last few.
And the last few, I was like, oh, this actually ended well.
Because I remember I really liked it early when I was a kid when it was like all like fun and games.
And then when they got serious and like Sean was writing poetry, I was like, I'm done.
Yeah, I tried.
Father dies and shit.
Too much.
He was like, bro, it's TGIF.
Thank God it's Friday.
I'm going to try to do this.
Same, same.
I kind of got turned.
Like, when I was younger, I kind of got turned off, but like, I stuck with it because I was really invested in Topanga and Corey and shit and them working it out, whatever.
But I love the way it ended.
I love the way it ended.
That ended up Fresh Prince.
What was the way it ended?
I don't even remember.
She had a job in New York and they moved out to New York.
Oh, so they went together.
Yeah.
They ended up living together.
Yeah, they were married.
There's a cool relationship with Corey is his name, right?
Yeah.
Corey and no, not Topenga.
His relationship with the teacher.
Mr. Feeney.
Mr. Feeney.
And I think it was, I think it was important for a lot of kids because they often, you know, when you're a kid, sometimes your best relationship with an older person isn't necessarily your father, right?
Sometimes it's your coach or your teacher.
And I think a lot of kids, I think a lot of kids valued seeing that out there.
You know, and there were moments where, you know, a kid might be like, oh, shit, I don't have this parent that I connect to.
And then you see some kid that you look every Friday and you're like, whoa, he's this kind of cool guy who's kind of like me.
And he has this relationship with another guy.
So I think there was like, it seems to me that this show touches people in a way.
I didn't relate to it that much.
That's what I didn't.
It's a touching show.
What are y'all talking about?
It's a touching show.
It's a very emotional show.
Like, they get you on the heartstrings.
Like, everybody has their own certain arc, like with Eric being like this fucking dumb fuck who finally figures it out as an older man and shit.
And Sean, some people hated all shit.
And he was like borderline retarded, and then all of a sudden became normal.
He's older than the other.
Yeah, he grew up.
The show was like, what, like, 10 years or whatever?
Like, it was a good show, Alex.
Fuck you, right?
No, that's not.
That's not Alex.
Maybe I got to revisit it.
I didn't get any of that.
You know, I just remember thinking was interesting, kind of cool, because we're comics.
So I was watching the main character be the comic relief.
Everybody around him, well, there's funny characters, but like his best friend is like this cool guy who's good with girls.
And then he's like this dork who's really funny and over the top.
And you don't like, like, Will was the cool one, and then Carlton was the over-the-top one.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine Carlton being the main character.
It was just kind of, I just thought it was kind of unique from a TV show standpoint.
And pretty impressive that he could carry.
It's hard to carry a show.
Dude, that's what I was saying.
Like, he carried it.
And then Fresh Prince, I thought the last season was weak.
I don't think Will needed to be there.
I think it could have ended with him and Lisa getting married.
That's what I thought.
But the actual finale where Carlton goes to Princeton and then Will goes off on his own and becomes his own man.
I was like, all right, that's cool.
Yeah, it was cool.
Well done.
Any other show that wraps up well?
I thought The Wire again Season 5 I thought was like, I didn't like a lot of parts of it, but I thought it ended how it needed to end.
And I remember telling you that because you watched it after me.
And define what you mean by that because ended how it needed to end is different.
It's like how we wanted.
Yes, you had to end this show that with this show.
Same with Thrones.
Thrones, I want a happy ending.
I'm a sucker.
I love a happy ending.
That's not a happy show.
Some shit ain't happy all the time.
If Thrones ended, the last scene will have a sad scene like John kills Daenerys or whatever.
It was dope.
I'd be like, look, I didn't like the way it ended, but it ended how it needed to end.
Speaking of HBO shows, if you're a sucker for a happy ending, like both sides, I love the way Entourage ended.
I hated that they did a movie.
I love the way that it ended where fucking Vince got his shit together and turned on the street.
Or just raised the business was cool.
Yeah, that was cool.
And it was nice and buttoned up.
And them doing the movie, I was like, you don't need to do that.
That's how East Bo does it.
They want to get that bread.
And it's a smart business movie.
So what do you think about Sopranos?
How does Soprano?
So I was never the biggest of Sopranos fans.
So I really have no stake in the game.
Though my buddy Marco, who's on Westerbros, had something very interesting to say.
He goes, the show didn't have any arcs.
He goes, even therapy never worked.
It's a show about sociopaths, right?
And psychopaths.
And they exist in this world where they don't actually learn and become better people.
They just kind of keep on replicating these bad behaviors.
And so he's like, so the show was supposed to end without any, what is I'm trying to say?
Resolution.
Yeah, resolution because there is no recovery.
Right.
So that's a perfect ending.
It's the ending of the show where most people were like, I need something buttoned up.
And it's like, hey, the mafia world doesn't button up.
It's a guy who goes to jail, a guy dies, or a guy continues working the streets.
But it's not going to be, I found my calling and now I'm a better person.
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Right, right, right.
Because that wouldn't satisfy anybody.
I think they would have been happy with him dying.
So he finally got got in the most basic way.
Apparently, the writer, the director, or whatever said, yeah, said he didn't.
He lives.
He doesn't get killed.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah.
I don't mind it in a movie, but if I watch a TV show for six years, I need to know how this ends.
I don't want to walk away one day.
But don't you love that fucking, that never-ending, like dead libs type of life where you can just be like, yo, and what happened?
You don't know.
I don't know.
The world gets to continue for you in a way.
But I understand what Akash is saying.
I can hear that too.
I can hear that too.
But there's something satisfying about a cartoon movie.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, there's a reason we love these Pixar movies.
Even as parents, we go with the kids, right?
It's because I got two-hour break from life.
And then, yeah, I felt some emotion.
Someone probably died.
Zootobi is a perfect example.
But it's like boom.
And now I'm here and I feel good at the end of it and I can walk away.
Whereas Sopranos, that shit, there are motherfuckers that are upset to this day.
Yeah.
To this day.
We'll get to that too.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, I enjoyed it.
Any other finales, producers you guys like?
No.
Eden, was there a tell and a vela that you were like?
Obviously, think Latero said, Lupe's got a good idea.
Yeah, that too.
That's all Sarma knows that show, bro.
I think The Office was bummed.
That's how The Office got so bagged up.
It did get really bad, but the finale was so I watched The Office for a few seasons and I keep, and my girl loves it, and I keep like, I'll be like, yo, I need to finish this show.
I was really invested in the show for a lot of years, but I literally cannot get through the last season and a half, two seasons, whatever.
I'm like, this is so unequivocally bad.
It's just characters are not as relatable as you've gone used to from like seasons one through seven.
Right.
At least Michael Scott comes back and that's and there's a lot of moments.
It's like what you guys were saying, I think, about Sopranos or Entrage.
A lot of T's were crossed, a lot of I's were dotted.
Right.
And it's just ending it nicely.
A good recap.
Yeah.
Like, especially like, you're talking about finales that I hated that I can't even go back and watch.
Like, I feel the same way about Martin.
Martin Ford has great, like, literally one of my favorite sitcoms ever created in that whole last season.
And especially the last episode.
I was just like, oh, fuck.
Just put it out of his music.
Exactly.
Fucking, I think the same thing as fucking Boy Meets World.
They get a job and they both go to New York, I think, or some shit with Gina and Martin.
But like, the thing was, like, Martin was suing Gina.
Well, Gina was suing Martin in real life.
Sexual harassment.
Sexual harassment.
So they couldn't be in the same scene with each other.
And Martin was still kind of like recovering from like his personal demons and shit like that.
And you could see it on his face.
He wasn't as animated as whatnot.
And it was just fucking awkward.
They had to do so many fucking bells and whistles to make it seem like they were in the same room.
And it was just like, yeah, this is for as great as a fucking show that was, like, that's just so disappointing to end it that way.
That's not it.
Anyway, look, look, we got a lot of cool sports things going on.
I think maybe we get into some sports.
Oh, we'll get to it.
Oh, we are going to get to it.
I'm actually very excited to get to that.
I'm glad you brought that up specifically.
But first, we're going to pay some bills.
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Man, Magic is on first take fucking singing this morning.
Quick breakdown, what happened to anybody who's just finding this information, Cass?
All right.
So obviously, everybody knows Magic Johnson stepped down from the Lakers on the last day of the regular season.
Yes.
And there was rumors about the reason why he stepped down because he got backstabbed or whatever.
He went on first take today and basically told people like, yeah, like Rob Palinka was talking shit about me.
He was going around my back.
He wanted my job.
Yeah, who wanted his job.
And not only was he like, I guess the breaking point wasn't so much like within the Laker organization, but like he was going around to other people outside the fucking, you know, the Laker family telling them like, oh, yeah, this guy's like, he's lazy.
He's not in the office.
He's not doing this, not doing that, like talking wild shit.
And it's like, bro, that's Magic Johnson.
Like, you don't think he got ears and eyes everywhere?
Like, they can't get back to him.
You know what I'm saying?
So, yeah, so he went on first take.
Fucking a lot more than Barris's.
Yeah.
He had time today on first take.
You straight up call Rob Palinka backstabber.
Right.
Told, you know, the world, like, yeah, the Lakers are looking at Kawhi Leonard and Kyrie Irving for free agency, like pretty much putting all Lakers' business out on Front Street on the same day that they announced their brand new head coach and assistant coach, Frank Vogel and Jason Kidd.
And when they asked Rob Palenka about this, he's like, oh man, this is news to me.
I'm saddened to hear this.
Yeah, which is like, come on, my son.
That's the number one.
I'm guilty lying.
I'm deeply saddened by these words.
Deeply saddened is never innocent.
Anybody innocently deeply saddened?
Yeah.
Because who would say that?
If you were really sad, you're just sad.
Yeah, that's nobody.
Nobody describes the depth of their sadness.
This is the number one.
Just placate the masses.
We are deeply saddened to inform you that you didn't get into our college.
They didn't give a fuck.
I don't know, man.
Magic Johnson.
He wasn't even shocked.
Who?
Palinka.
Yeah, Palinka.
He wasn't shocked at all.
I don't know.
Magic Johnson doesn't strike me as a liar, bro.
His instruction is somebody who would like, that's the reason.
He's saying that's the reason why I left.
Yeah.
I'm like, there's anything we know about Magic Johnson is that he'll tell the truth about some shit.
So, yeah, I don't see why Palinka didn't just be like, hey, man, if I was him, I'd just be like, hey, listen, like, Matt Johnson has a phone number.
If he felt some way about, you know, the way he left or the way he felt like he should leave the organization, he could have called me.
He didn't have to go on first take in ESPN and do all that other shit.
That's what I'm saying.
Man, you're smiling like he got juiced, though.
What's the juice?
I don't know.
I don't know if he does.
Rob Palinka is a pathological liar.
This is known.
I mean, a sports agent is a pathological liar.
Oh, I'm glad you pointed it out.
So he is a pathological liar.
This is known in NBA circles.
Everybody in the league will attest to this.
Now, people don't have access to Palinka.
So the people know what they see.
He is exactly what you want the face of your organization to look like in many ways.
Polished, charming, authentic, handsome enough.
Exactly.
It looks like Rob Lowe.
Yeah, it looks like a blue right now.
It looks like Rob Lowe and the coach of the Celtics.
Brad Stevens, right?
He's the third brother, the middle brother.
Yeah.
So like, so, but he basically, if Magic's even looking at him like he don't trust that motherfucker, go ahead.
Of course not.
So, so, uh, but he is a pathological liar, which means he will say anything to anybody in any moment to get whatever intended reaction he wants.
So when he's going around bad mouthing magic, he doesn't even realize he's doing it.
We're talking about a true sociopath.
Now, you brought up the agency.
He literally lied and stole from his old agency to create his agency, right?
So within the agent sphere, and you know, I go through this with stand-up agents all the time.
Like an agent will like me, she'll be schmoozing.
She'll just be, or he'll be say right to my face, like, I want to take you from your, from your agent.
How do I take you from your agent?
What can I do?
Straight to my face.
And then shake my agent's hand a minute later.
And that agent knows exactly what the game is.
And they know exactly what the game is.
Oh, dude, dude, the second I was off Rogan, every agency.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you would have knew that?
So like, so this is how the agency world works, right?
One of the reasons I'm with my agent right now is because I think he might be like one of the only people who isn't in that way.
Shout out to TJ.
So this guy is pathological with it.
He's existed within these LA sports circles and saying these lies.
And it's just like sitting down.
Oh, yeah, you know, Magic's never here.
It's just conversations.
He's just spewing.
He doesn't even realize he's doing that.
Son, I was with some agents, right?
Part of my agency.
Not my agent, but part of my agency.
And they were telling me about how dumb actors are.
And I'm like, do you not realize that you represent me?
If you're willing to speak that way about other people you represent.
But this is the type of person that Palinka is.
So how he ascends to the top of an industry is quite curious.
Obviously, you have the Kobe Bryant cosign.
And there is so much to this business about looking the part and being the part.
And he is the epitome in a lot of ways of looking the part, being the part, and then being associated with greatness.
Well, shit, if he finagled his way up into the fucking Laker front office, I'm assuming, you know, I mean, he probably did some snakey shit to get up there.
You know what I'm saying?
Some little finger shit.
He's already pretty much.
He's little finger.
His little finger.
But this is the problem with the organization.
If you want to pinpoint, like with the Knicks, the problem is Dolan.
If you want to pinpoint a problem.
It's Palinka.
It's this guy right here.
And you know what?
We say this a lot in this podcast.
LeVar Ball was right.
You posted a great clip.
LeVar Ball was right.
He was right.
Now, was that an old clip?
No, it was an old clip.
He had this in the beginning, in the middle of the season this year.
He was on Undisputed with Skip and Shannon.
And he's basically saying, like, you know, I don't think this is when Lonzo wasn't getting that much playing time.
And like LeVar Ball like emerged from the shadows and we're like, oh, here he comes again.
You know what I'm saying?
But everything he said, Magic pretty much, you know, pretty much true.
Like, he was like, yo, like, I like Magic, but like, he just kind of seems like a face.
Like, I don't think he's calling the shots.
He's like, honestly, I don't even know who's calling the shots over there.
And like, if you could talk about his offseason, like, that's pretty much on the money.
You know what I mean?
Like, Magic was there because he's Mr. Laker and it's a nice face to put on when you got an organization that hasn't been the best in the past couple of years or whatever.
You bring Magic on, you smile for a few people, and then like when LeVar is trying to talk to Magic on some like, hey, you know, let's, you know, let's, what are we figuring this shit out?
And then like, nothing's happening because he's not the guy that's really in charge.
So now you go, well, you're not the person I need to talk to.
Exactly.
And for that to be Magic Johnson, and, you know, if Genie busts on him, like, hey, you get to do this, you get to call the shots.
The finals.
The thing that he said on first take today was, I was told that the final, the ball stops with me.
You know what I'm saying?
I make the final say on everything.
Magic Johnson.
Magic.
Yes.
And that's what I'm saying.
And when he didn't get to make that with Luke, with Luke firing Luke Walton, which you want to do here.
He wanted to fire the Lakers coach, Luke Walton.
Yeah.
And which they end up doing anyway.
But he wasn't able to do it when he said.
There was a moment, and this is a little bit off, but I want to get back to it.
But there was a moment in the end of this interview.
If you watch the end of the interview, and you will see why Magic is a billionaire in the business world.
Ooh.
The end of the interview, Magic makes, and if you guys want any advice whatsoever on how to deal how to be essentially a businessman, at the end of the interview, Magic compliments each and every one of the hosts, specifically on things in their life.
He goes, Stephen A. Smith, he goes, listen, you're my man.
I love you.
I said I was going to come here when I was going to do this and nowhere else.
I love what you're doing, blah, blah, blah.
Max, you got that new boxing show.
I saw that one with Andre.
Man, it was so good.
I just love what you're doing.
And you're my brother.
Molly, you know, I love you.
And I love your husband, who is Jalen Rose, because he's a Michigan man.
You know what I mean?
Now, you will watch Stephen A, Max, and Molly's faces light up.
Of course.
And this is the brilliance to it.
Now, it doesn't work on our level just yet, but to be the top and to almost belittle yourself and put these other people who are clearly below you on a social ladder, but to bring them above you and act like a fan.
What that means to people.
Oh, it happens.
It happens all the time.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not denying.
But it is a class on schmoozing.
And what they say about magic is no one in the business schmoozes, but that is his magic.
And when you take that into the business world, and you have meetings like that where you're meeting with, you're just meeting with some fucking like business developers or like some real estate developers who are lifelong Lakers fans and they get to sit down with Magic and then Magic makes them feel special.
They leave there going, I want to do business with Magic.
I know this other guy might have more money, whatever, but let's do the movie theaters with Magic.
I get it.
And there is brilliance in figuring that out because some people put themselves up on you.
You got to know who you are, though.
You got to know who you are.
100%.
And how people see you.
And how people see you.
And Magic knows exactly who he is.
My man said that.
He is not regretful in the meeting.
A man with AIDS said that he is not regretful in the meeting.
And when he said that shit multiple times, I was like, wow.
I'm like, wow, he meant that shit.
Not one thing.
Not a thing.
Yeah, no.
I mean, you can tell the longer he stayed with the Lakers, the more that magic about being able to schmooze people and have that fucking aura of magic starts to wane.
Starts to wane a little bit.
Hey, don't talk to Ben Simmons.
Hey, don't talk to Kevin.
Can I also say this?
He didn't do a great job himself.
Like, he opened the interview saying, I wrote about this extensively.
He wrote about it.
He sure did.
Kaz.
Yeah, let's not forget what Kaz said.
100%.
We've always credited it.
But go on, go on.
He got rid of, he said, you know, he had to get rid of D'Angelo Russell because of the whole, you know, Shaggy, what's his name?
Shaggy Peter.
He called him Shaggy People.
He called him Shaggy Peter.
Yeah, okay.
Hysterical.
That's number one.
You don't know shit.
Second of all, if there is a disagreement between you and a guy whose name you can't even get right, you get rid of that guy.
You keep the more talented player.
You always keep the more talented players.
I don't care if you're for Kuzma.
You had a better player.
You passed on Jason Tatum.
You wanted Lonzo.
You said that was your pick.
You took ownership of that.
You act like you were making everything right.
You weren't.
Right.
Your contracts this offseason were not good contracts.
Kaz, just say more shitty things you did.
Lance Stevenson, JaVale McGee, Michael Beasley, Ray John Rondo.
Didn't get a single shooter next to LeBron J. Didn't trade for Paul George.
Didn't trade for Paul George.
Didn't go for Kawhi Leonard.
Passed on DeAaron Fox, even though he's a better point guard.
He's not good at this.
No, because here's the thing.
And it's important to acknowledge.
This takes the grind.
And he might complain about being only a face, but that's what he would be best at.
He is best as the ambassador of the Lakers, not the president, not the GM, but the ambassador.
Be at every single game, be in all the interviews, be at the lottery, be at every public outing.
Just don't be involved in the decision making because you don't want to.
Hey, be there telling players to come to the Lakers, but don't be the GM or president where you get fined for it.
Just be an asset to the organization.
Which is what he was before he became on.
I think what happened with him is, you know, he was coached by Pat Riley, and he thought, oh, if Pat can do this, I can do this.
You know what I'm saying?
And who knows what those huddles look like?
He probably thought he was doing more of the coaching than Pat Riley does.
So I'm like, it's not like this guy knows more basketball than I do.
I'm the fucking Hall of Famer.
I'm this.
I'm that.
So, you know, Pat makes it look easy.
Pat comes in.
We've all heard the stories.
He comes in with the fucking godfather haircut, puts the rings on the table, and it's like, you know, make you offer you can't refuse type of dude.
And for a lot of times, that works, you know, but with Magic, and he has a billion other things going on.
Like you said, like, it's an all-in job.
Like, you can't, granted, yeah, Genie probably said, yeah, you can still do this other shit because you are just a face.
And the fact that they're not getting somebody to replace that, the president of Basketball Operation, just giving that shit to Rob Palinka, lets you know where Genie lies.
You were just a face, bro.
Like, you're a Laker legend, and they can't shit on you.
And if you want to work there, yeah, absolutely.
You give them a nice fucking cushy job, a nice cushy title, and make him, you know, make him win that shit.
Does this not underscore how bad of a decision it was for LeBron to go to LA?
You think it's a risk?
How'd you let Magic Johnson convince you of anything?
I don't think he convinced him of anything.
So I think LeBron was like...
No, LeBron.
Well, I was going to go, but I think that Magic is very convincing.
And I think that's the asset, right?
I think that Magic is the type of guy that's convincing amongst players.
If he sits down with free agents, if he sits down with these people, then absolutely.
Hey, what's up?
Can we help you out?
Is this for a Myron Harbor?
No.
Other one.
So thanks for closing the door.
Appreciate it.
So basically, you have a situation where he's in the room with them and he's making them feel good and doing exactly what he did to Max, exactly what he did to Molly, and exactly what he did to Stephen A. Smith.
And I think what happens when you leave that room, you go, I do want to help this guy.
I don't know if you guys have ever been, if you guys have ever been around like elite level schmoozers.
Yeah.
Have you ever?
I don't know.
You would know.
Probably.
No, no.
You would know.
There's a distinct difference how they make you feel.
I have a buddy who is an elite level schmoozer and you wouldn't even know he's schmoozing.
But he has a way of making you feel wildly important no matter what you're saying.
Wildly important.
And when you're around a guy like that, this weird sensation happens where you want to help them win.
It is a life hack.
It is the craziest thing you've ever experienced.
And like, there even be times where, like, in my mind, I'm like, why do I want what the?
I'll tell you this: the person who's like, he has that, and then you apply that to free agents, you apply that to people.
The reason why it doesn't work in this role is because you can't schmooze another GM that's trying to win, too.
Filler results plays business.
You could do all you need to do, but like, if it's not ended up with wins and losses, they're not going, okay, here's Antonio Davis.
I like how you smile.
Yeah, Anthony Davis.
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You know what I mean?
Doesn't make any sense.
What you were saying?
No, I was about to say, like, one person I've been around that's an elite schmoozer like that is Drake.
Like, an elite who makes everyone feel like the fucking man.
You know what I'm saying?
The bottles to Charlemagne.
The ability to come below him, right?
To come to drop yourself below the guy who's criticized you.
Yeah.
Knowing that if I schmooze right, he's going to be on my side.
And he had Charlemagne on his side for, I don't know, a good year before Charlemagne was critical at all.
That is elite.
Yeah, and he does that to everybody, man.
And that's why he gets so much business done.
That's why he got that fucking Raptors gig.
Like, he's the fucking, he's the man at that, bro.
Like, if he follows you, like, he'll follow you on Instagram, kind of like he will compliment you, leave a little comment on your shit.
He'll fucking, he'll make you feel like a million bucks after you talk with him for five fucking minutes.
And that's what, that's what, outside of like, you know, being a great musician and like actor or whatever, like, that's what he does.
He makes it.
When you company talent and schmoozing, you have a very unstoppable force.
Because most billionaires or like 100 millionaires are kind of dicks.
Yeah.
Right.
And they have to be to function in that world.
They don't understand, right?
They're like, I need to take a hard line on this.
They're killers.
And some people, and it takes elite talent, right?
Yeah.
Because if you don't have any talent, you're just rich.
We don't really like you.
Yeah.
You just offer us salvation and security.
But when you love your music or we love your basketball playing ability, and then you make me feel good.
Yeah.
That's where we go.
What's up?
It's like, oh, I'm in.
Come in now.
Yeah.
Like, okay.
How can I help you?
I want to be part of whatever.
I want to be more in with you.
Like, here, fucking, let's do this cognac.
Let's do this clothing line.
Let's fucking make you the, let's put you on the cover of this magazine.
Like, the deals are like, that's why they were saying, remember when Drake signed to Young Money, he didn't sign to, there was some guy, Jewish guy.
He didn't sign to Atlantic.
He didn't sign a Lior Cohen.
Cohen, right?
And apparently Cohen was like crying about it or something.
I forget.
He's Mr. Jew.
Like he's the fucking thing.
He is the big guy.
Yo, I'm telling you, if you ever met Lior Cohen, like you ever hear about rappers talking about like the man and like, and you're like, I think I remember if you draw a picture of who that guy is, it's Lior Cohen.
And apparently he was like distraught over this.
It's because he's not stupid.
He knows he saw talent and elite schmoozing.
When you take those things and you go, I get a piece of whatever that guy makes.
Yeah.
Mad at you.
We know people like this.
Yeah.
I think I do.
We know people.
And then you go start putting together the pieces.
Yeah.
Right.
You Start and you go, oh shit.
Because the natural reaction for most of us, right, is to be in meetings and these types of things.
And it's actually a good reaction.
It's just like, how can I be successful in this moment?
Yeah.
Right.
And it's because we're not bringing much equity into the meeting.
But when you have equity and you come into the meeting, and instead of looking at these people you're in the meeting with going, how can you help me?
But like, wow, you guys are really talented.
It's like, oh my God.
I think I've even spoken to you about a comic friend of ours who's just like a sociopathically brilliant manipulator.
Yeah.
I think I know who we're talking about.
And it's, I'm just saying, like, there's, you know, again, I don't know your deal with Jay-Z and your deal with Duesday, but I bet you if Jay walked up to all you guys, knew a little bit about your life, said this, and he was, but, and then he was like, listen, yo, we would just would love to be, you know, support you guys, whatever, whatever you guys need.
Let's say he didn't even pay you, but he's like, we just want to be in business together.
We'll figure out some money down the line, but let's just do it.
If he buttered y'all up the right way, I mean, I bet y'all be his power is a different type of hova has a different type of power.
Like, he'll say little things that aren't necessarily schmoozing, but it's like, oh my God, I can't believe he just said that to me.
You know what I'm saying?
It's always about what's next.
It's always about the next step.
My interpretation of Jay is always that he's created himself to be so much larger than life that you're still drawn to it somehow.
Like you went to Kevin Hart's show at Sola Madison Square Garden.
Kevin Hart tells a story in Breakfast Club and he said, How does it feel?
And Kevin Hart was like, Yo, man, it's crazy selling out the garden, blah, blah.
And Jay was like, No, man.
How does it feel that I'm at your show?
And like, that's Jay's magnetism.
Like, he's built himself up there.
And we bought in.
It's a real, it's a real fucking thing, too.
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Yeah, man.
Like, when he comes in, like, the first couple of combos, like, he's had like myself, like, my friends and the crew was like, this is just the beginning.
Like, a little simple shit like that.
I was like, yo, we're going to get to it.
We just get and start.
Like, little shit like that.
Like, it's hope.
It's hope.
It's like, because with him, he's what Moses kept saying.
We're almost there.
He doesn't need to.
He doesn't need to 39 years later, like, fam.
He doesn't need to schmooze us because he's had conversations with every single liquor brand in the world.
And like, when a guy who understands that shit immediately, and he came from the same streets you came from, and you're like the fucking, he's almost like, he's almost like a mythological character to any black young man.
He's like, he's almost not like real.
It's like, what the Jay-Z wants to work?
Yes.
What are we doing?
And on top of that, he knows the fuck he's talking about.
And then you're just like, yeah.
It's powerful people that have no ego or unstoppable force.
Drake, say whatever you want about Drake.
He does not have ego.
You need a healthy amount of ego.
Yes, he'll have a plane.
And I know everybody's like, oh, he's showing his stomach off this, that, the other.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
But it's his ability to drop himself below certain people and meet them there that allows him to get all this time.
He's always found that fucking young up-and-coming rapper from some city or whatever.
Oh, what is the baby or Migos?
He's not lying to the new shit.
And he jumps in.
He's like a rapper and an A and R in one person.
I think that's a good thing.
Absolutely.
That's what he's good at.
That's what he's good at.
Next, what we got?
What do you guys want to go to?
We can go to the Raptor series.
We can get quiet for the Blazers.
Oh, boy.
How wrong was I?
Jesus Christ.
Boy, I thought it was going to be a great series.
So do we talk about it?
I mean, let's talk about it.
I think it's a sweep easy.
I think, I mean, this is, I think, what I predicted, right?
Yeah.
I don't know if we saw a sweep coming.
Maybe I didn't say sweep, but I thought it would be, I thought the Golden State Warriors would knock it out.
And I think it's just because they're a harder team to defend with Steph.
Yeah.
It is more difficult all the time.
They're not better without K. They're just a harder team to defend.
And I know that seems like it equates to better, right?
And in some cases, it does, in some cases, it doesn't.
You really live and die on Steph shooting, right?
If Steph has an off night, you're off.
You cannot win.
But if Steph is playing the way he's been playing, right, which is, you know, Steph doing Steph things, they're an impossible team to guard because he's hitting impossible shots.
You cannot guard impossible, right?
So Steph literally hits impossible shots that are backbreaking for a defense.
You cannot, like, there's no scheme, right?
There's no scheme for 30-foot step to the side, fading, three-point.
There's no scheme that defends that, right?
There's no scheme. to plan for what he does.
And when he, the ball is in his hands even more, it's over.
There's a scheme to defend against Kevin Durant.
It's not very effective, but you know what he's going to do.
You know what he's going to do.
And not plan what Steph is going to do.
When he's on.
But now you live and die on him being on and off.
You just can't turn off the faucet.
Like you can turn, you can lower the stream of water with KD.
You cannot turn off Steph.
Steph has to turn himself off.
There's an interesting tweet that went out today between Chris Broussard and Kevin Durant.
Okay.
I guess Chris Broussard on Fox Pros Radio said, Kevin Durant's worst nightmare is coming true.
Players around the league tell me they put an asterisk by Turant's two championships.
What in the world are they going to think if the Warriors win the championship without him?
And then KD responded, I see a little exaggeration there, buddy.
My worst nightmare, you sure that this is the worst that it can get?
And then somebody said, calm down.
We know you're sensitive.
And KD responded, you're right, let me chill before my sensitivity flare up.
You're a real one, bro.
And that was the last.
And I think Andre Gaddafi said, man, fuck them niggas, man.
Do that in there.
And.
It's funny that he edits fuck, but not the N-word.
Niggas ain't curse word, bro.
I know a lot of black people who don't.
Nah, no, no.
A lot of black people who don't ever cuss, but then they use the N-word.
Just rampant.
It's not a cuss.
It's not a curse.
It's not a curse.
Hey, tell that to a white person.
Yeah.
It's a slur.
You do.
It's a slur.
But now with KD, man, one thing people forget to realize when they see this shit and they react to it is like, KD has been like a Twitter nigga his entire life.
Yeah.
Like, even before the burner account shit, like, if you look up all his old tweets that he still hasn't deleted, which I think is fucking beautiful about him, like, he's just got, he's just one of us.
He's just a basketball crazed regular guy.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, when people see his shit like this, like, oh, my God, is he going to is going to sway him which way?
Whatever.
Back to your point about the Warriors with KD and the Warriors with Steph.
You can stop KD.
You can stop KD.
You can hit him.
You could push him around.
Both of them, they are unbeatable.
With one of them, they are beatable, but they are more beatable with just KD than just Stephen.
That's a great way of putting it.
Who would you rather have, right?
Would you rather have KD injured or Steph injured?
Yes.
With both of them, they are impossible to beat.
No one can beat them.
With just one, give me Steph, man.
It is definitely Steph.
They have a worst record without Steph.
Everything is worse without Steph.
They're a different team.
It's like Kyler Murray in fucking Oklahoma, bro.
The offense just moves fucking different when he's flowing.
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like Russell Wilson.
It's a different speed to the game where he's got to go where he's a threat to shooting.
You take out the quarterback.
A team can't really recover that easily.
Yeah.
And you know who I see playing better?
I don't know if you guys noticed this at all, but Draymond.
And Draymond is playing his ass off.
On both sides.
He also lost like 30 pounds.
He looks slimmer.
But have you noticed that he's more engaged defensively?
So some sound bites I have on the phone.
I texted these to you guys, but he basically acknowledged that he used to, that he had gotten really annoying.
Two things I heard.
He has a quote.
I was doing more crying than playing, and I'm sure it was disgusting to watch.
Like he understood how annoying he got.
And he knows he's like, I'm still, basically, he's like, I'm still going to be annoying.
But I know that it got too far.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that was one.
Katie might have something to do with that because it's just not as fun to play with KD.
Oh, you're saying once he stopped playing with KD and he started playing just by himself, he realized the difference of his attitude.
Potentially.
Now, he also at the end of the sound bite, he said, Look, I have a fiancé who's helping me a lot with that.
My kids I have to answer to now if I act a certain way on the court.
And so he, I think he might have just grown up, but it is possible.
Him and KD definitely, you know, they had them a little dust up.
So maybe it's just a little more fun to play with Steph because it's just flowing.
And it's more fun to watch.
It's funny.
Way more fun to watch.
And he has more value on the court.
Like when the game runs, when the game runs through him and then Steph and Clay are moving without the ball, even if he's not scoring, he's assisting the basket.
And we all know from playing the game, it feels good to set someone else up.
Oh, of course.
Even if I don't get the bucket, but if Al gets the bucket or you get the bucket, it's like, let's go.
If you watch them play without KD, they get more uncontested cutting layups than any team I've ever seen.
Why is that?
Like they will move the ball around.
I have no fucking idea.
I guess because the way when Steph's a threat and you got to spread that court around and Draymond's got the ball, you will see fucking like Jordan Bell or Andre Gudala.
Everybody's jumping screens.
They're jumping screens because they got to come over and get Clay.
They got to come over and get screwed.
And then the back door is available.
Back door layups are all fucking.
And Katie's not going back door.
Katie wants it on the blocker.
Katie wants it outside I show he's not going back.
It's not even like he's not going backdoor.
He's just, he's just, he's gravity.
Sure.
He's gravity.
So people, he takes up a lot of space just being on the court unless he's like all the way out from fucking 30 feet like behind the yard on the three-point line and he's not effective there.
So it's amazing to watch, man.
They may not be better without KD, but they are 10 times more fun to watch.
They're right back to like the lovable fucking words that everybody likes before they fucking we did.
We still didn't like them before.
But it is exciting.
It's incredible basketball.
It is so.
And they're going to be fine if KD leaves.
And that's crazy.
Not only are they going to be fine, they might be favorites.
Yeah.
I said that.
You might have.
Yeah, yeah, I think you said without KD, they're still the team to beat.
They might be the team to beat.
And you know what?
They become more exciting.
And we love competition.
It is boring with KD because we know there's competition.
It's meaningful.
Imagine we have KD somewhere else.
We have Kawhi maybe with the clip.
Like all of a sudden, you still have the Rockets that are out there.
All of a sudden, there's these interesting matchups.
The playoffs is going to be a dogfight again.
It's like basketball's in a very good position.
It's going to be great.
Kawai will be somewhere.
Jimmy's probably leaving.
Every shakeup that happens this summer makes basketball better.
Every one of them.
And as heartbreaking as it is to watch the Blazers, who I've been gassing this whole time, get their ass beat.
Yeah.
I do have to call out Dame.
All of a sudden, he's injured.
He's got an injury on his shooting.
Give me an example of this.
What is it going on?
He's got the Steph thing where he hasn't been playing well.
The thing we always accuse Steph of, so I got to keep that same energy.
Every time Steph has a bad playoff game, he's hurt.
And then somehow he has 30 points the next game.
We all forget he was hurt.
But then he has 10 the next game.
Oh, he's hurt.
Right.
His finger is hurt.
Yeah.
Steph, Dame, apparently, has a hand injury.
Not his cat.
I thought his ribs rip.
His rib.
I saw the injury.
I forgot who fell on him, but like somebody fell on Hill and his chest went on the court.
And I think that's where he got injured or whatever.
He said, I'm not going to use it as an excuse to his credit.
Somebody did it for you.
But yeah, it's a wrap tonight.
I think they close it out handily.
We're recording this Monday, by the way.
Yeah, I think it's a wrap tonight.
And yeah, man, I mean, blowing two leads in the second half, you're done.
The game two, you were done.
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All right.
Anyway, let's get back to the show.
Raptors Bucks, Raptors Bucks.
Did you guys watch the game?
I didn't watch last night's game.
I got to be honest.
I was busy being depressed about Game of Thrones.
I could not see last night's game.
Why don't you break us down?
I just watched, obviously, reviews.
I was told that it was one of the greatest playoff games in history.
No, really?
It was that good?
It was a good game.
Double overtime.
Clippers Lowry Clutch Star00:15:08
And fucking Kawhi just put the team on his back.
19 of his 36 points came in, what, fourth quarter and overtime.
Fourth quarter and overtime.
Yeah, he had some crazy fucking game.
Put up a dub in fourth corner and overtime.
He had some crazy fucking coast-to-coast buckets where like he was very fucking tired at that point.
Can I say something real quick?
Do Jay Williams and Stephen A. Smith need to apologize to Max Kellerman, yo?
Because they wilded out on Max Kellerman when he was like...
Max is good, man.
Stephen A and Skip and all these guys will say shit just to say shit because they got 365 days.
I do believe Max believes what he says.
100%.
Son, more clutch than Kobe.
Stoppage.
They're purists.
Son.
They're purists, and you can't go against the Kobe code if you're a shooting guard and you don't want to.
Stephen A ain't a purist about anything.
He plays a character.
Cool.
You're good at the character.
But don't give WWE a pure.
Yeah, UWW.
Max actually believes what he says.
And that's not the craziest take I've ever heard.
Yeah, no.
Kawhi is a good idea.
I don't agree.
But you can say it.
You can't say it.
It's way too early.
Why don't you say that?
Why not?
It's too early.
Kawhi came into the league like second year.
Kaz has thought about it.
Kaz has thought about it.
With a team full of Hall of Famers against one of the most stacked teams in history, the Miami Heat, right?
Give him that.
They came back.
Pascal Siakam not playing his best.
Kyle Lowry not playing his best.
Kawhi Leonard going against the best team in the NBA.
The Milwaukee Blacks have the best record.
They've only lost two.
They've lost their second game in playoffs this year.
Kawhi Leonard has not had the fucking luxury of having a Pal Gasol on his team, a Shaq on his team, any of these bona fide, you are the number two guys.
He has one of these playoff underachievers in league history as his point.
And he is three games away from taking a team, his first year taking a team to an NBA Finals that never, ever got over the Halloween.
Can we add one thing to that?
More clutch.
Kawhi, Kawhi, going against the best team in the league, arguably, right now, or at least the best record.
Just to reiterate what he said, is not playing with a single Hall of Famer right now.
Not one.
Not a single Hall of Famer.
And he's going to beat.
He's playing with an all-star who is a regular season all-star.
Regular season all of them.
Never a playoff all-star.
And it's like barely an all-star.
I don't think Kyle Lowry gets in the Hall of Fame.
Absolutely not.
I don't think he gets in.
Absolutely not.
Who knows what happens with Pascal as he goes on with his career, but I doubt we see that.
He's playing on top of that.
Good player.
On top of that.
Giannis had one of his worst games of the season.
And why is that?
12 points, eight turnovers.
Why is that, though?
Who's guarding him?
Kawhi took the challenge off.
Hold on, hold on.
Kawhi took the challenge this time.
We turned the wall off.
We turned that water off.
Son turned off all of them.
We turned that water off.
That's what happens when you unleash the motherfucking beat.
Eight turnovers.
Yo, there's a moment in the game where the ball is being bobbled.
This is in the fourth quarter or overtime.
I know what you're talking about.
The ball is being bobbled, and he picks it up off the ground like it's an orange.
Like it's a tennis ball.
Son, it looked like Aladdin grabbing a piece of bread in the opening scene.
Son, it was nothing for him.
He one-hands it.
Walls.
Lifts the shit up one hand.
You know those videos where like a dad saves his kid with his dad intuition?
You ever see that?
Like he just grabs a kid mood.
That's what it felt like.
You're looking at, and again, history is written, you know, posthumously or whatever that word is, right?
It's like, you know, there's a great reference for Game of Thrones.
You know, it's like the story's written afterwards.
Yeah.
We already know Kobe's story and it's emblazoned into our brains.
But there is a very reasonable situation where Kawhi could go down as a more clutch player.
Oh, I'm not saying it can't happen.
I'm just saying don't do that.
Claim right now is you can't do it.
Why not?
You can't do it.
Why not?
What clutch shot has he hit?
He hits Kawai.
No, I mean, besides that one.
19 of the 30 years.
We could think of many clutch shots.
Kobe's had a lot of clutch shots that ultimately didn't mean much.
Ultimately, didn't mean much.
Sorry.
Yeah, this is fucking ridiculous.
I've never seen anybody pick up a basketball like that in my life.
He's had a lot of great clutch moments.
I'm just saying early.
That's all I'm saying.
It's so crazy.
That's insane.
Son, it's crazy.
I mean, how big your hands have to be to do that shit.
Bro, that is kind of dope.
That's fucking nuts.
And the fact that he can shoot this well with that big hands.
Yeah.
People don't realize this.
Like, having big hands, there's like a, what is it called?
A return of like diminishing law of diminishing return?
Something like that.
Like, a big hand is good for shooting until it's too big.
Then it's really difficult.
Yeah, because then you're wrapping your hand around where you're supposed to guide it.
Yes.
And that's Kawhi makes no sense.
Like, he's not supposed to be this good of a shooter with hands that big.
Like, ridiculous.
There's never been a time where he hasn't been a capable top five player, except for like his second year when he was playing with Duncan and managing noble.
Yeah, his third year he won finals MVP, and that's when I was like, oh my God.
And I realized I never saw anybody to this day shut down LeBron like that.
Yeah.
The best fucking clip, the only thing you need to show anybody about that series is when LeBron is at the free throw line, Kawhi checks in, he looks over and says, fuck it.
Goes in.
I was like, yo, that's what it turned off.
That's all you needed.
That's all you need to show anybody about how good Kawhi Leonard was back when he was on the Spurs.
Like, yo, prime LeBron, prime Miami Heat at the height of his athletic powers.
LeBron was like, guarding one through five that year.
I'm pretty sure that was the year he was guarding one through five, blah, blah, blah.
All that shit.
He would guard the center as well.
Yeah, there was one game where he guarded one through five.
Like, he was, yeah, it was insane.
And Kawhi just shut it up.
Now, here's what I would say: if I'm a Toronto fan, I'm terrified we're going to lose him.
Yeah, you should be.
I picked them to win it all, I think.
I definitely picked them to make it to the East.
You said, without a doubt, finals.
Maybe you even said win it all.
And the way they have.
That's wild.
There it is.
There it is.
This is Pink Braun, too, man.
In the final.
You know his powers.
This Thanos right here.
Really is.
So go on.
What were you saying?
I thought they'd win it all because I thought the other players would play.
I thought Pascal was going to be the number two.
I thought Lowry would be a capable number three.
But nobody else is playing ball.
And if you're a Kawhi and you're like, I already wanted to go to LA, what are these guys going to do to keep me?
Because I'm not coming back with this squad at all.
And listen, there's one thing to add some.
If there's one thing that the Raptors have done effectively is made trades to improve their team without cap space, right?
Like getting Mark Gasol.
Yeah.
Right?
Getting Kawhi, right?
Like doing what was necessary to pick up these players.
I think they have, they're the best in the league of operating within the collective bargaining agreement.
So I don't deny in the very least that they know exactly who they can target and piece around Kawhi.
Who I trade for if I'm the Toronto Raptors this offseason?
Mike Conley.
I was about to say that.
And now Memphis has John Morant.
Yeah.
Or they're most likely going to get John Morant.
So Conley's on the block.
So who do you give up, though?
If you're Kyle.
Kyle, some picks.
Why would they want that cap hit?
He's not a free agent after this year, is he?
If he's coming off the books, that's a trade piece.
But if you're Memphis, why would you say, yeah, I'll take Kyle Lowry.
So you do Kyle.
I do Kyle and someone else.
I do Kyle and someone else.
Maybe somebody young, maybe somebody that they believe in, maybe, who knows?
And you basically have Kyle over there to school Morant essentially.
So Jock can start.
Kyle can come off the bench.
You give him maybe a deal, do a sign and trade, maybe add a few more years to the deal.
He gets a chill.
Sorry, real quick.
And one of you guys look up how many years Lowry has left on his contract.
It's this one and next one.
And I think he's done.
So two years.
Sorry.
So one more year after Zane's championship.
That's a trade chip.
If he's coming off the books, then you're thinking, oh, I get 20 million in cap space next year.
I can fuck with that.
I can play with that.
And you have someone to kind of score.
That's a chip.
And yeah, that's a trade chip.
And now you've got Conley who already works with Mark and another guy who's not an alpha scorer, but he's just going to hit those open three.
He's a big shot.
He's going to do everything.
Kyle doesn't do this.
He's a big shot maker.
He's a great defender.
Pure point guard and sure point.
And you're going to see Mark's numbers go up.
Because Mark's only doing nine points a game, but this is a guy who could drop 30.
You're going to see him.
We have a little bit more.
That's a lot of fun.
He's a free agent 2019.
Oh, 2020.
Yeah.
Understreaker free agent.
Yeah, so next year's 33 million coming off the books.
So that's a trade chip.
Yeah, so you're going to take books.
And throw on a draft pick or two.
All right.
Maybe we could play ball with that.
That's a sexy trade piece right there, man.
I'll take it.
And then if you're Kawhi.
Maybe I stay with Mike Conley.
I have a little conversation for sure.
Now the Clippers are still really fucking intense.
I got to use his bathroom real quick.
Please don't talk about to this day until I get to that.
I mean, we're not talking about to this day.
But I'll be right, Dr. Bradley.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Like, I still think...
Do you think Kawhi stays?
Gun to your head.
No.
You think he's out of there?
I think.
And I like the Raptors, so I hope he stays.
I know Canadians get tight whenever I don't think because last year I never believed in them.
I like them as a franchise.
I like them as a franchise.
I want them to do well, but I just keep thinking, if I'm Kawhi, I'm thinking to myself, I wanted to play in LA, or whether it's my uncle or me, whatever.
Somebody wanted me to play in LA and I was convinced to play in LA.
I could go to the Raptors who will get Mike Conley, maybe Pascal, who is going to get better, but this year really shrunk in the moment.
And maybe he learns, whatever.
Or I could go to LA that could sign me and other pieces, whether it's another Max guy or whoever.
And they got a young point guard and they got four first-round draft picks.
They could trade that for another superstar or just.
You know what they could do?
I'll be honest, bro.
I'll be honest, man.
The more I think about it, the more I think about it, I could really see Kawhi going to the Lakers.
I could really see Kawhi teaming up with LeBron.
Launching.
It would be completely redeeming for all the shit I've talked about.
Same.
They could sign him straight up.
They don't need to give up any of their young pieces.
They don't got to empty the cupboard for Anthony Davis because Kawhi Leonard has already showed you.
Kawhi Leonard has already showed you he could carry a team.
Yeah, but why would he go now to playing with the most ball dominant player in the NBA?
If I'm LeBron James, I don't say I take a step back, but you realize that this guy is ascending and you're not descending, but you're staying even.
You know what I'm saying?
I think LeBron would do that.
I don't see a world where LeBron does that.
I think he's been humbled.
I think he's been humbled this offseason.
You think motherfuckers learn way too quick.
This guy thinking guys get humbled real quick.
Bro, he was the greatest player in the world until December.
Yeah.
And you think December to May, five months, is enough time for him to be like, you know what?
I'm not the best anymore.
I'll take a step back.
I don't even think he needs to be the best.
And Mario will look at him as 1A, 1B type of thing.
Yeah, I don't think Braun needs to be the best there.
I think Kawhi, Kawhi's game isn't a game where he has to have the hand on the ball all the time like LeBron does.
Let's try to set up a low stakes bet first.
Okay, low stakes bet.
Lakers or Clippers.
Yeah.
I just think not Lakers.
I think Clippers are number one.
I say Clippers one, Raptors two, and then a distant three, if I can't think of any other teams, are who you call?
Brooklyn?
Oh, fucking Brooklyn before Lakers even.
Yeah.
If I'm Boston, I think maybe I sign and trade for this guy.
I think it's over for us.
I'm not convinced he goes to the West.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, why would you go to West?
He should really take his time and be like, what's the best fit for me?
Yeah.
Like, why would you go out west?
Like, you've already shown.
If you're in Boston, you want Anthony Davis or you want Kawhi Leonard?
I don't know who fits better.
I'm not thinking about that right now.
I'm just thinking about player I would want.
It would be Kawhi over AD.
I don't want.
Yeah.
I don't want to play with the paper.
I'm going to take Kawhi because I feel like he's.
What's up?
Don't they need some size?
Yeah, but who got size anymore?
I mean, like, theoretically, yeah.
But Golden State's biggest player is Draymond.
I know he's a different dude, but like, do you need size anymore?
I don't even know.
Yeah, I mean, maybe you could sign Kawhi for the money you would have used to re-sign Kyrie Leonard, Kyrie Irving.
But at the same time, you don't know, you know, if you go for Anthony Davis, you're giving away pieces.
Like, you got to come up with some shit.
But I don't know, man.
Like, I like him.
I like him in Brooklyn.
I like him in L.A.
I just don't think LA's fucking front office is right for him right now.
You're going into a horrible situation.
Why would you go to LA?
The Lakers?
Yeah, I just think him and LeBron could be like, I think them two alone could win you a title.
I mean, look, you go to the Clippers.
You could theoretically sign two free agents and then trade four draft picks and some other pieces for AD.
And you already got good pieces that you don't got to get part with.
You imagine if they got Kawhi, KD, and AD.
It'd be infuriating, but it would be kind of funny just because it's the Clippers finally winning.
So short term, it would be like, it'd be kind of satisfying.
But they could theoretically do that.
I think so.
I doubt KD goes to the Clippers, though.
You're not going to.
But theoretically, they could do that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
That's a world that exists.
My thing is with them, the funny shit is the Clippers, Achilles Hill was their starting five.
Like, you give them a starting five.
You give them like two star players and whatever starting five that they got right now.
You got Lou Williams and Montrez Harrel come off the bench, giving you like 18 each.
You know what I'm saying?
You got Shai Gilgis, Alexander, running point.
You got fucking.
I assume they'd have to give up one of Montreal's or Shai for if you're training for AD a long before first round.
But, I mean, it's a world that exists, is all I'm saying.
It's one in 14 million and six, whatever the event's odds were.
And that's a crazy thing to think about.
Just one.
Oh, man.
So who do you think wins tonight?
Between Milwaukee and Toronto?
Did they even it up or not?
The Bucks are taking it.
You think Bucks can beat the Warriors?
I don't know.
Warriors, no KD.
I feel they got a chance, but it's probably not.
You know who it all would hinge on?
It's Draymond.
If Draymond can do anything, Giannis, I think, then, yeah, it's over.
But if Giannis is a one-man wrecking crew, I don't think the Bucks got it.
I don't know, man.
What does that mean, eh?
Dumb-ass observation is that.
Calf Strain Giannis Game00:04:41
I don't think it goes to seven either way.
Shut the fuck up.
So you think it's either going to be a sweep or you think it's going to be a gentleman's sweep?
No, he thinks it's a sweep or five or six and either team can win.
It's up to seven.
I don't know if it's a seven-game series.
Think, I don't think it's a seven-game series.
It's not the craziest prediction.
No, I think Giannis, I think, I mean, the fact that they went to two overtime.
I'm shitting on you harder as a joke, but that is, but that is a real, that's not some bold-ass prediction.
You know that, right?
Landry Ground.
I know about this.
I was shitting on him as a joke.
But, like, that's not a hot take.
This series will not go seven.
Whoever wins.
That's the point of the show.
Hot takes, motherfucker.
Say some shit and stand in it.
Who gives a fuck?
Warriors and all.
Oh, way to go.
All right, there.
That's what's up right there.
No, I think Giannis, they went to two overtimes.
Giannis only had 12 points in eight turnovers.
He played as arguably his worst game.
It took two overtimes for them to take him out.
I think Giannis gets it together again.
I think they fucking take it home in Milwaukee once they go back over there.
And I do think the Warriors and Bucs go six or seven.
I think the Warriors and Bucks go in six or seven.
I think the Warriors get it because I think KD comes back.
And, you know, but without.
We don't know if KD comes back.
My theory is he has a grade two calf strain, and they're just not saying it.
I think so, too.
What's the digits hurt?
So grade one, from what I read about it, because I'm so eager for the Warriors to lose.
Turns out they're just fine without him.
Alex is right.
Grade one calf strain is a week.
Grade two is three to six, which is a pretty big range.
But is that KD's not, I don't think, like some super quick healer.
So if that's a one-month, five-week injury, it can't happen.
He's not coming back.
And it's not worth it.
And these series are both going to be over pretty quickly, I think.
Yeah.
I'll answer the question.
If you lose the first two games of the finals, do you try to force him back quicker?
If I'm KD, I say no because I'm a free agent next year and suck my dick.
Yeah.
If I'm KD, I don't even.
I don't know.
He's a basketball fiend.
I know he's not ever going to say it, but I sit.
You sit.
If I can't go, bro, like, this is the finals, though.
You can't just come back and work your way back into the finals.
No matter how good you are.
And you have $150 million on the line.
No, I think a team will pick him up regardless, but I think a team would pick up an injured KD.
I guess my question is: does a calf strain have anything to do with an Achilles?
Like, is the calf straining what happens prior to the Achilles?
I don't know, but I think.
So we always hear this.
There's overcompensation with one muscle.
I can definitely see how if you are straining with one calf, the other leg is working overtime and you could strain the Achilles or something else.
So yeah, it's not even the leg that's fucked up that you should be worried about.
Is what gets you a lot of times.
And that's why guys who like tear a knee end up tearing the other knee pretty soon after.
It's like, yeah, because you stop jumping off that one leg extra weight on this one.
That's what happened with Kobe.
Like he was fucking his shit up.
Like, I think he had a bad foot or ankle or something.
And that's when the Achilles sore, and then he tried to come back.
It just wasn't the same.
And KD knows he's leaving.
And he knows the Warriors.
I mean, he don't want to stay in the Warriors, but yeah, he's not.
I think he's done what he's needed to do on the Warriors.
Yeah.
I don't think he wants to leave the Warriors.
I think he's done what he's needed to do.
We've accomplished it.
He proved the world that he's the best player.
He proved to everybody he's the best player in the world or however he feels that he's the best player in the world.
And that team is fine without him.
And he wants to go and for real prove it somewhere else and lead his own squad again.
I'm not mad at an Eastern Conference finals of Jonas and KD every year.
Not at all.
That'd be all right.
Imagine we have Jonas and KD in the East.
And in the West, we have either LeBron and Steph or Steph and Harden for the game.
Or Steph, like Kawhi.
Like, it doesn't matter.
The West or Steph and Kawhi.
Yeah, like, doesn't matter.
We're going to have bare minimum four epic series every playoffs.
Of course, I agree.
I think the best bet for the Warriors, if they sweep Trailblazers and Kawhi gets into his bag and he stretches that series out in the Eastern Conference, I think KD comes back.
But if not, if Giannis takes one in Toronto and finishes it with a gentleman sweep in Milwaukee and the final starts a little sooner than expected, I think there's a longer break between the conference finals and the NBA.
I don't know if they do that anymore.
Maybe.
I'm not sure.
I haven't seen, I actually even Googled this.
What's the start date for the finals?
And there wasn't one that I saw.
It just kind of seemed like they had game five if necessary, game six if necessary, game seven if necessary, then game one of the finals.
So I think if both conference finals are over, take a couple days and then start.
I can see that.
Tyson Boxer Fracture Angle00:08:20
He's been out, what, a week and a half, two weeks now?
I would think, I think a week and a half.
I would think, just from a marketing perspective, you would want some time between the conference finals and the finals to sell the story.
Right.
Right?
That's what I would do.
If I was the NBA, I'd be like, yo, give me five days.
Give me, you know, a whole week day.
Send all these video packages to Sports Center and do the fucking human interest stories.
Oh, did you know that's you know, his cousin died like all this stuff?
Jonas is supporting his entire family in Nigeria.
So now if you don't root for him, you hate immigrants.
You know, some story that they'll find.
Sign up.
Yeah, let's do that.
Let's do we're gonna pay some bills and then we're gonna we're gonna come back and talk about a very interesting boxing story about how boxing is quite literally uh heavyweight boxing is being revived by one of the one man one of the greatest punchers in the history of the sport.
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Akash is back.
The baby bladder is empty.
It is very important that we talk about Deontay Wyler because he has revived the American heavyweight boxing scene.
And when we are interested in heavyweights, we are interested in all boxing.
This guy is impressive.
We don't have to play that video at him, but I would like you to get the video up of the knockout.
This guy has concussive one-punch knockout power.
Now, he is not the most skilled boxer.
He is not the most accurate puncher.
He is not the best defensive fighter.
He has one thing, and that is one-punch knockout power.
And it is incredibly rare in the world that we live in that you find a heavyweight that has this type of game-changing power throughout the fight.
He can knock you out in the first round or the 12th round.
A lot of times, guys get tired and their power does not carry to the later rounds.
This is different.
We saw what happened with Tyson Fury.
I don't know how Tyson Fury got up from that punch.
But he hasn't fought since.
He hasn't fought since.
He hasn't fight coming up.
He hasn't fight coming up.
And I think what they're both doing is like, hey, let's cash in and then make our next fight even bigger.
That's fine.
Make your money.
You guys deserve it.
You put your life on the line.
But if you look at this punch right here that he lands on Brazil, it is the right hand straight on the chin.
Oh my God.
Son, it is light set.
Look at this.
This is straight.
I'm surprised his jaw didn't break.
His fucking ear went in fast motion and everything else stayed in slow motion.
Uncanny.
You are born with this power.
That's simple as that.
Everybody's fucking reaction.
It was like hearing a door slam when I watched that shit.
Yeah, you could actually hear it.
You could hear it watching live on TV.
It's rare you hear a single punch land with that kind.
You heard the punch connect.
I'm surprised he didn't kill him, bro.
I'm surprised you're deadass.
That punch kills 80% of humans.
80% of humans, you are dead or you are in the hospital for a very, very long time.
I don't know what 20% you're talking to.
That's about 98% of them.
Oh, my God.
I mean, this was unfucking.
Can I ask you a boxing dummy question?
Why is he not a more skilled boxer?
It feels like he's, I've been hearing this from you about him for years.
Here's the here's here.
I'll tell you why.
For the same reason that Kyle Corver isn't a more skilled dribbler.
Doesn't have the ability?
Doesn't have to be a good idea.
He's got one thing that he's really good at, and he doesn't need to do anything.
Like, what's so special about Steph is that a guy who shoots so well from that far also learned how to handle the ball.
Usually you either handle the ball so well you can get to the basket at will.
Or that's Big Knock of him coming to the league.
They're like, oh, we don't think he can handle the ball.
He might be a mark price at best.
Boom.
And then he ends up being one of the greatest ball handlers in the history of the game.
So when you have concussive power like that, what often happens is not only do you not learn how to box, you also don't learn how to throw a hook.
When guys have one hand that is destructive, like he doesn't really have a hook.
Yes, his form looked, yeah.
But that right hand is a thing of beauty.
The scary part of it turns it over.
You see it?
Look what?
Watch when he lands and turns it over.
You see it?
Yeah.
Because when you throw a right hand, right?
Not only is the torque, when you punch with the pinky in the ring knuckle, it hurts you.
It's called a boxer's fracture.
You do not want to hit people with these knuckles.
You hit people with the pointer finger and middle finger.
These knuckles right here are like an extension of your wrist.
You're not breaking these knuckles.
These right here, they break if you punch a wall.
These right here, it's like you're hitting someone with a brick.
Okay.
And when you punch, when you throw an overhand hook, it's very easy or an overhand right, it's very easy to turn it.
Look, to turn down and then hit with these two.
But what he's doing is twisting into the front two knuckles.
That's all I wanted to ask you because it almost looked like he didn't even get all of it.
Oh, son.
Look at this.
Raw.
That is raw.
And there's probably another angle where we can see.
See, it almost looked like he pulled it.
I don't know if his head was just fucking strong, but it almost looked like he pulled it a little bit afterwards and still knocked him the fuck out.
Like he almost in the vault.
He didn't follow through all the way.
Am I correct in the interview?
Maybe, maybe.
I mean, look, look, he shot it out there quick, right?
It's not something he loaded up on.
He was like, yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Like, it didn't look like he got all of it.
It didn't look like a, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but he knew he was out.
Watch this.
He knew he was out.
He just knew it.
The second he landed, he knew it.
Just turned around like Steph Curry.
Like, I'm not even going to watch you.
Look at that guy right there, man.
Everybody's face is just like this guy.
This girl over here.
She's going crazy.
It's crazy.
He's got legs like mine and an upper body of a fucking buffalo.
Adonis.
Yeah.
So he's a perfect example of like punching power comes in a bunch of different ways.
Obviously, Mike Tyson was like a compacted fighter.
Mike Tyson would actually make an unbelievable MMA guy.
Really?
If MMA existed now, because there's that whole grappling situation.
And like when you have this kind of length, it's not good.
You want kind of a compact body for that close quarters throwing and that kind of stuff.
Check this angle out.
But yeah, let me see it.
Go.
The same angle.
The same angle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thanks, bro.
So you can figure it out.
But when you talk about boxing specifically, if you look at real power punchers outside of Tyson, like a Tommy Hearns, they're long, skinny.
It's lanky.
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And the power comes at the end of a long punch.
Okay.
Like even for me, when I started, I've been kickboxing and stuff, so I'm starting to get my power and timing and stuff back.
And the power isn't from like, you know, one foot away.
The power is me keeping you at the end of the jab and then me extending that the whole way.
And it's almost like you're letting a fucking bow and arrow go.
Right.
You know, and like a guy like that who is just long and thin, if you're at the end of that punch, it's a dagger, bro.
It's over.
Here it is.
Here we go.
Look at this.
Watch it.
Right, wait back up.
It was a little backup for a little bit.
They spread him apart.
I don't know.
The first round, Brazil already looked tired.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Yeah, they had boom!
My God.
Jesus Christ.
Blinding speed, too, man.
Jesus Christ.
I don't even know what it feels like to get hit that hard.
Now I don't want to know.
I've been, you know what?
I've gotten punched in the face, but like not that.
No, no, no.
I've never been hit that hard.
But I have been hit where the room spins.
And Floyd talked about it when he got hit by Mosley.
He was like, what happens to that?
He goes, the room starts spinning.
But he was so comfortable with that feeling.
He had experienced it so much.
And what happens is when you get hit that hard, at least for me, when I was hit really hard, I thought it came from the other side.
Like when I got hit with a straight right, I thought he hit me with a hook.
That's how wobbly you are.
I saw the white light once.
You saw the white light.
Yeah.
It was funny.
It was eighth grade.
We were about to take a Regents exam.
Yeah.
And so I have my afro out, and these white kids in the back of the class are like throwing little pieces of paper and shit like that.
And so when I turn around to see what the fuck is happening, a pencil hits me right in the forehead and I lose it.
And it just so happens the kid who threw it's this overgrown giant sitting in the back of the room.
So my first thing, I go and grab the garbage can and I just chuck it at him.
And I hit him.
He comes at me straight forward to my forehead.
Jesus Christ.
Next thing you know, I'm against the blackboard.
I saw the white light for a second and then I'm against the blackboard and then I fucking lost it and I'm like, I punched the teacher.
I punched him.
I punched everybody.
Yeah, I fucking lost it.
Damn, man.
And you became a cop after that.
That's how you know you get hit hard.
You know you got hit hard when you start fighting someone else.
Yeah, I'm done fighting.
Anybody who got in the way was getting sung on.
But the best part of the story is that they bring us to the principal's office.
The principal was panicking because that test has to start at an exact time or whatever.
And they're like, yo, nobody will get in trouble if you guys just apologize and go back to the room or whatever.
They let me go back to the room and I got like a 96 on that.
God, imagine you didn't get concussed before.
How bad is that shit?
How bad are New York City schools?
Your badass got a 96 on that test.
This is the regions.
They didn't mean they didn't mean shit.
Yeah, no.
One time in high school, my freshman year of high school, I got like punched by our power forward, like in a locker room.
Like we got some argument.
I don't know.
I was making fun of him.
He's like a big fucking, he's like 6'6.
It's like a strong motherfucker.
Matter of fact, his brother played for the 49ers.
Cool.
Anthony Davis, the offensive tackle.
I don't know.
He's a Pro Bowler or whatever.
Anyway, yeah, no, he punched me square in my jaw.
And it was the first time I almost fell after getting it.
Yeah.
But like, I caught myself and I was going to school in Jersey and I was on scholarship and I didn't want to lose the scholarship.
Right.
And I was like, if I fight back, I'm going to lose my scholarship.
My mom's going to kill me.
So I had to sit there and eat the punch and just walk out the room.
Wow.
And yeah, and that kid got kicked out the school because everybody saw it.
Everybody saw me just walk away from it.
And I felt like such a pussy for years.
I was like, God damn, I really was.
I was young.
I'm looking at Joe.
I'm looking at me now.
I'm looking at Joe Lo sideways, guys.
I ate it, though.
I ain't fall, though.
I ain't falling.
He's a big motherfucker.
He's not powerful.
He's like 6'62, like 50.
That's when you get a little bit of a grab a garbage can.
Yeah, well.
No, you made the right decision right there.
Don't lose the school.
Yeah, I felt like a bitch, though.
Over that shit.
Who cares?
Now that guy's homeless.
Look at this fucking shot, man.
Here it is in slow motion.
Steps into night night, motherfucker.
You're going to bed.
You're going to bed.
Jesus.
When your head hits the canvas, when you don't even have control, your neck.
His legs are just like where it was.
And you're dead.
And you died.
Look at my man got up so fast the second he knocked him out.
Watch this shit.
Because you knew everybody heard it.
It sounded like a door slamming, dog.
Oh, my goodness.
Even homeboys try to get his fold up right on time.
I know he's pissed.
This guy right here, he got his fold up just at the absolute worst time.
Like, just as it happened, didn't get it for the score.
You know, he's gone.
Look at that shit.
And he's dancing.
Look at my man dancing right now.
Fuck out of here, bro.
He's late.
First round.
Third of the games were missing, bro.
I screwed up.
Anthony Joshua don't want it.
Nobody wants it, babe.
I'm telling you.
I don't like to say nothing bad about Anthony Joshua because he's a fellow Nigerian.
Sorry, fam.
Don't do it.
Don't do it to yourself.
Don't do it.
You mad, good looking.
You don't want this smoke.
Go fuck it.
He's a handsome ass dude.
He's a handsome motherfucker.
He's well spoken.
I went to the UK.
He's like the LeBron of UK, though.
He's literally everywhere.
He sells everything.
But don't do it to yourself.
You're not.
You're not made for this.
Keep on fighting Polish fighters and Russian fighters.
Keep on fighting bums that we can't pronounce their last names.
That's what you should do until you retire.
You do not want any of that because that's what's going to happen to you.
You're going to get hit like that.
And we know for, here's the thing.
We don't know if Anthony Joshua has a chin.
We know that Wilder does because my man Wilder took Luis Ortiz's punches and Ortiz can fucking throw it.
He can throw.
He can throw.
So we know for a fact that, one, he's not deterred by power and he's going to come down.
And if he connects, which he will, you're going to go down.
Son, you killed him.
I'll never get used to that.
That's death.
How much to go around?
How much to go around with Waller?
Around?
Yeah.
One round.
One round.
I mean, I would actually die.
I'm not doing it.
How much?
You cannot pay me enough to die.
If I had children, I would say this is what right now, how much?
Right now, 10 million.
There is no amount of 10 million.
10?
Look at me.
There is no amount of money.
Just try to run.
I'm not saying look me in my eyes.
I'm saying analyze my body.
10 million.
Yeah, but just try to run the entire route.
That's 10 million.
You just got to run.
10 million.
Bro, 100 million.
I'm doing it for less.
How much?
I might go like 200,000.
Are you hurting?
What's going on?
Andrew, right?
You're doing too much.
You can do it 200,000.
Just because I think it would be fun.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Like the expiry shit you ever said in your life.
I'm going to tell you straight up.
Extreme sports.
Yo, do you remember what that Billy Club felt like in Sweden?
I ate that shit.
You did?
Yo, Al might be ready.
Al Real Tuck might be ready for Deontay Wild.
He got hit and kept going.
Son, I'm not going to get hit with that.
I'm just going to run.
Yeah, but he's fat.
Like, he can catch it.
Here's the thing.
You in there?
I'm only looking at the right hand.
You know how cocky I am.
How I say I could do anything.
I ain't even going to say I could go around a lot.
Like real talk.
That's three minutes, dog.
That's not nothing.
And he don't get broken.
He's going to turn a leg.
Like, no.
You just got to last three minutes.
That's it.
The ref could break us up the entire round.
You know what I'm saying?
If we're doing 10 mil, I'm giving him two of my 10 mil.
It's just like, yo, just don't kill me.
Like, you can't.
Just don't kill me, bro.
I'm born in the middle.
I'm a Nigeria to bet.
I'm already just killing him.
It's so Nigeria.
I already found a scam within the hypothetical.
Like, we don't even got someone raising 10 million for you.
Are you going to scam in the hypothetical, son?
Yeah.
Think about this.
If you cover your face, if you just like, I could eat whatever point.
Your ribs are just wide open.
He just breaks all of them.
How do you think a ring not that big?
And he don't get tired.
He don't corner you, bro.
Just hold on to the arm.
Just hang on it.
Yeah, but this is something you don't understand, right?
Do I have to survive the round?
No, you don't got to.
You could get knocked out.
Boom, first jab.
I'm like, oh, maybe there should be some sort of like thing to see if you did get knocked out.
So here's the thing.
Here's the thing with this.
He doesn't throw full power, right?
Because he's concerned that if he doesn't land, the other guy could land on him.
That's not a fear with us.
With us, there's no fear of the counterpoint.
He's just going to go in Haymaker because he knows if you, me, Cass, Akash, land, even with our most powerful shot, he's going to walk through it.
He's going to walk through it.
Shut up.
Doom duce.
I'm not going to lie.
Not mine.
I'm knocking him out.
What am I going to do about this?
See?
All I got to do is watch out for that right hand, right?
All you got to do.
All you got to do is watch out for the deadliest fucking right hand I've probably ever seen in my life.
In boxing history.
In a history of killers.
And he's a legit psycho, Deontay, because y'all saw him knock out the mascot.
Nah.
So there was a mascot.
He was on Mexican TV, right?
No, no, there's the troll thing, but this is different.
He also says he wants to kill somebody.
That's very feasible with me.
So absolutely.
So he goes on this Mexican boxing show, right?
And they bring out a mascot dressed up as, yes, watch this.
Okay.
So here's a clip.
The mascot is dressed as, it looks like a Pringles can.
Why?
Why?
So Sony.
Watch, So he goes.
Pause, Oh, he does karate.
Now, the question was, now the deal was, now it's on Mexican TV, so he don't know what's going on.
The producer ain't really talking to him.
The agreement was with the guy dressed in the Pringle suit is that he was going to take a shot to the stomach.
Okay?
Now play the video.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Why?
Right at his fucking face.
Yo, look at his feet.
Look at his feet.
Oh, my God.
Son, so the producer.
Look at this producer.
Look at this producer right here.
They go, oh, my God.
You're not supposed to hit him there now.
Look at his fucking feet.
The big ass prince.
Son, he's dead.
Yo, he's legit crazy.
So the guy, the guy who's lost it.
So the guy, if you look it up, he broke his jaw.
He broke his eye socket.
Like, his all sorts of fucked up shit.
Like, irreparable damage.
I think he might have like crazy.
Like, real bad.
I'm not doing the round, bro.
You can't pay me enough.
$400.
You can't pay me enough.
$400?
You said it's a good thing.
I rethought it.
You got to tell me how much reconstructive cosmetic surgery is first.
Times that by like 12 at least.
Son.
And I'm still probably not doing that shit, bro.
Bruh, that's a life insurance policy.
I'm kicking him, kicking him.
Would you do it if you wore the headgear that has the bar that covers your mouth?
He's still knocking me out.
No.
I would do it without you.
I'll do that.
Headgear, yeah.
For how much?
Like, serious now with headgear, yeah.
5 million.
I would do it with a fucking.
I'm going to get concussed.
But it's 5 mil for a concussion.
I would do it with.
I fucking pay to go snowboarding and shit like that.
I almost died.
I've got three concussions in my life.
I'm going to get CT.
It is what it is.
I would do it for a headgear that's like a helmet, like an NFL, like lineman helmet where the face mask goes all the way up.
Yeah, then I'm in.
I need like the JPP helmet with the full fucking mask and the shredder shit.
Yeah, he would still break a rib.
And even with that helmet thing, you'll still get concussed because it will just be like the NFL where your brain shakes within it.
You just won't get the what is the term? Superficial wounds.
So you won't be black and blue.
You won't get cut.
Your black woman will be inside your fucking brain.
Inside your brain.
Which is the worst.
Yeah.
But goddamn, I'm good.
I mean, this is insane shit we're talking about.
Like, this is like.
I'll try being a millionaire in other ways, bro.
I'm not trying to do that.
Alex, if you want Deontay Wilder on the podcast, we can probably make that happen.
He'll probably dress you up in a Pringle suit.
One short.
Oh, wait, really?
I would definitely be into it.
I'll take a punch.
Sam, you are.
No, you're not.
Stop, Sam.
You are.
I wouldn't even let that.
I'd let him do it, bro.
If he does that, like, he doesn't even play around.
He's celebrated.
You see him woo after that.
He went out like a primal roar after that shit.
Like, I'll take a punch in the arm, maybe.
And that was in a dress shirt.
In the arm, absolutely.
How much you do for a punch in the arm?
Punch in the arm?
200K.
Punch in the arm.
Who and Dr. K to get a bunch of people?
Charlie Hornass of Charlotte.
How much for a punch in the arm?
Dislocate your shit.
How much punch in the arm, Akash?
I would love to see him punch Akash in the arm.
Akash would go flying like a fucking chili movie.
Dude, how much, dude?
I would pay.
I need a cool mil for that.
Cool mill.
Punch in the arm.
Look at the arm, bro.
His whole body looks like a shit.
That's just a combo.
He looked like a night king.
He would R-A-U-U-B.
That shit would be done game over.
A punch in the arm?
Yeah.
Scary sight, bro.
Anyway, here's what the game's been missing, bro.
I'm a fan.
I'm glad he brought Heavyweight Boxing back.
I'm glad he's.
Especially America Fuckers.
We have an announcement again.
We got to make sure we do this on the beginning of the next episode.
June 10th.
Yes.
Oh, is that the game?
June 10th.
As Andrew.
June 10th.
Monday, June 10th.
We have this officially locked in, correct?
June 10th.
Where's the location?
We don't know yet.
That's Alex.
I'm going to go on that Alex because he has a song.
So I got a court, but it just can't fit a lot of people.
Tentatively.
We can just be us and then I got one of those as well.
I got one of those as well.
We'll invite a couple.
Wow, I got a full, but you don't need a full.
Yeah, I think a half would be fine.
Half is all you need.
I think what we might, and then Akash, you and I should talk and I'll let you see it.
So what you think, because there is a world where people could watch behind the glass.
We'll tentatively have a couple of patrons there.
Sure.
Potentially.
Potentially.
But we can't promise just now, depending on the situation.
It's got to be indoor because my body can't handle outdoor.
But that tastes solidified, though.
Perfect.
That's our tentative day, June 10th.
If we can lock that in, Alex, let's lock that in.
June 10th, one-on-one.
So the idea is we're going to play one-on-one and then come here and record an episode.
Oh, it's right away.
Exactly.
So we can get the reaction.
It will be.
No shouts just coming in.
No, coming in hot.
You won't need one.
You won't need one.
It's going to be that quick.
It's going to be that quick.
We're going to do a lot of the shows.
June 10th.
I can't wait.
Can't wait.
We're at the barn, Scott.
Can't wait.
So, just real quick, I want to do just shout out some dates, if that's cool.
We're going to be in Columbus, Ohio, the Columbus Funny Bone this Friday and Saturday.
I love Columbus, man.
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I love that club.
Best chicken tenders in the whole country.
And that means the best in the world because I don't think the world does chicken tenders.
Make sure you come out to those shows, man.
And then after that, we're going to be at the Helium Comic Club in St. Louis, St. Louis, Missouri.
We're going to be out there.
And then after that, we're going to Ann Arbor, Michigan.
And then we're going to San Francisco.
Man, San Francisco.
Y'all been crazy, man.
Just selling out these fucking shows, dude.
It's unbelievable.
Thank you so much.
We just added a fourth show in San Francisco.
So now we got two Saturday, two Sunday.
Gobble up the tickets to that while they're still around.
And then TheAndrew Schultz, say what?
No, I just said, whoa.
Dude, it's crazy, man.
Yo, San Francisco showing love.
So theandrewschultz.com for all that, man.
And thank you guys so much for like your suggestions for the dropping in series.
That's just been so helpful.
You know, thank you, Cam Williams.
I did his podcast and he helped us shoot some stuff for the shows in Nashville, man.
That was so much fun.
Thank you to everybody who took us out in Nashville and all the comics that were there.
That was so cool.
And just go to TheAndrew Schultz for all the tickets.
Toronto, we got that second show available.
Gobble up tickets to that.
New York, Boston, all of them.
Keep on getting the tickets.
Let's get them high.
Let's sell these motherfuckers out right away.
Shouts to Monster Energy for an Outbreak for sponsoring the tour.
But yeah, appreciate y'all so much, Arcash.
Nothing.
We're working on a little tour for me.
I will announce dates as it happens.
We got one locked in.
We're going to keep getting more as we go.
Nice.
This Saturday, Wrestling Fans, I'll be in Las Vegas at Starcast 2 at the Wrestling with Stereotypes panel with Kenny King, Chris Bay, Marty Bell, and Willie Mac.
Shout out to my guys, Andreas, Hal, and Cal Dansby from the Sporting News for putting that together.
And this Monday, Memorial Day weekend, Duce Palooza, Brooklyn, New York.
YG will be the headliner.
Special guest Young Nudie will be performing.
OG Chase B, Austin Mills, Mick, DJ First Choice, Where's Nasty, DJ Steph Cakes, hosted by low-key Chris Styles at the Brooklyn Mirage.
VIP tickets are sold out.
Silver bottle tickets are sold out.
GA is very limited left.
Killing them shits before they're gone.
Also, I can't help you.
Get ahead of that real quick.
Also, what's it called?
Don't forget cause and effect.
Make sure you watch that.
Yes.
Every single week.
And what was I going to say?
Also, the merch.
Everybody keeps DMing me about the merch.
The merch is for the live shows.
All right.
That's where you get the merch at the live show.
And I know that our fashion, our little fashion walks that Alex and I have been doing have been slapping, right?
Because we run this fashion shit.
Okay.
Shout out to Mark for cooking up the merch.
Shouts to Andrew for out dancing his black counterpart.
First of all, black and Latin.
That's a double whammy.
Yeah.
You're taking out double whammies.
Look at this.
My people.
Look at your hands and your waist.
You're so unsure.
Son, look at that shit.
Alex is a little stiff, right?
Yeah, son.
I've never done white dances before.
Oh, that's a white dance.
That's not a white dance.
That's a white dance.
Son, and you see the hips get into it a little bit.
That's a Michael Jackson lake kicking.
Hey.
And wait for hands dropped.
Anyway, so the stay sleep tea, the anti-social justice warrior tea.
We got the Hezzy T, the Matador tour, and we got the Cancel, Cancel Culture hats.
That's a hot hat.
That's a hot hat, man.
We're really killing it, man.
And we try to cook up something a little specific for each light-skinned face at the end.
Yo, that shit is serious.
Light-skinned face.
Hey, remember that video?
Anyway, so they're available at the live shows, man.
So gobble them shits up when you can.
I appreciate y'all.
And then, you know, we'll do it.
You'll get them when we come to your city.
Simple as that.
Appreciate you guys for listening every single week, man.
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