Andrew Schulz, Haney, Marco, and Jack dissect Game of Thrones S08E4, debunking HBO's claim that Jon Snow distracted a dragon with "go" while criticizing George R.R. Martin's vague endings and showrunners' poor adaptation choices. They praise Cersei's Winterfell victory but condemn Tyrion's lack of foresight regarding ballistas, debate Jaime's motivations between love and redemption, and analyze Bran's unconvincing Three-Eyed Raven role amidst the White Walker absence. The group speculates on Daenerys's descent into madness driven by Cersei, theorizing Jaime might kill her before Jon Snow strikes, ultimately concluding the show has returned to calculated political maneuvering over traditional hero narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
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West of Bros Returns00:03:25
What's up, everybody, and welcome to another episode of West of Bros.
I'm Andrew Schultz.
I'm here with Haney.
I'm here with Marco.
I'm here with Jack.
We got the old squad back together.
Finally, Game of Thrones has put out an episode worth talking about in a delightful, upbeat manner.
I know initially I got a lot of shit for my takes on the last episode of Game of Thrones.
Some people came around, though.
The whole world came around.
Everybody thought that was crazy.
First two days.
And then Game of Thrones.
And then HBO started leaking shit about the episode.
Right?
Like, I saw this article in Cosmo, and Cosmo somehow had the last two minutes of the episode.
And I was like, how would you get two minutes?
Of the next one?
No, no, no, no.
Of episode three.
Okay.
Cosmo had this article, like what really happened in episode three that you might have missed.
And then I'm like, hmm.
So you're saying Cosmopolitan Magazine is just ripping two minutes of an HBO show and selling ads on it, and that's not like low-key placed by HBO to do a little PR coverage.
And there's no way possible.
And what they said was very interesting.
They said, remember when we were shitting on John for being a bitch and just hiding behind the rubble the whole time?
Yeah, yeah, he was on the move.
Well, he was on the move, but it was whatever.
And then all of a sudden, he just decides to jump in front of the dragon and just yell at the dragon, right?
So what they said was the dragon was actually protecting the entrance to where the tree was in Brand West.
And that's where John's trying to go.
Right?
Wait for it.
So apparently, John sees Aria.
And when he's looking at the dragon and he's yelling at the dragon, he's yelling, go, go, go, to Arya.
Right.
He's distracting.
And so he's like, so, which is typical John thing.
I'm willing to give my life to protect everybody else.
I'm like, okay, that was a good move.
It was just executed extremely poorly along with everything else.
How was it missed?
Like, how did they expect us to get it?
Yeah.
I feel like they're doing it in hindsight.
They're like, no, he said that.
And it's bullshit.
So I will rewatch the episode.
I put the caption on.
He doesn't say go.
He just yells.
Really?
They're just manufacturing that after the fact because they're trying to...
The caption just goes, ah.
That would be a reasonable explanation.
I choose to believe that, actually, just to make myself feel better.
Well, I believe it for four days.
I felt great.
Well, that's what I feel like.
And then Alex just ruined it for me.
But they're doing PR work because they know how much they fucked that up.
Isn't that crazy?
Protect the image, control the narrative.
What was your take on the episode?
Because we didn't.
I hated it.
I texted you guys, but then I didn't want to influence.
I didn't answer because we were about to record, and I was like, I don't want any of this conversation happening.
But just recap before we're just by the way, everybody listening right now, this is Game of Thrones.
We're doing episode four that we all just saw, but you guys weren't here for Jack's response last week, so I want to hear what Jack had to say.
It's a lot of the same things that you said.
I just felt like everything I loved about Game of Thrones was completely devoid in that episode for sure.
And like anything, like any kind of heartbreaking relationship that you have where you realize it's going to go a different way than you thought, I was in mourning after the episode and I was trying to find answers.
Yeah.
And I was trying to find someone to blame.
And I realized the only person to blame is George Martin himself.
Okay.
Hot take.
He has had not only the eight years that this show has been running, he's had like 15 years or something before that, whenever the first book came out to finish this series.
And I think he got caught up in the fucking fame and success and the parties and whatever it is.
Richard Gere Silver Fox00:02:19
Yeah.
And he hasn't finished it.
And now we're all just waiting for it to fucking finish up when we don't have a true ending.
So it's like, but like he's working with the writers on the show.
Kind of telling outline.
But you think because he didn't give them like the actual his book kind of like, you know, translate to their script.
You think because he didn't have that, they've kind of their liberties fucked it up.
I feel like I really respected these two showrunners as like creative storytellers.
Trash.
And what I realized that sucks is that pussies are just good at adapting material that's already there.
If their source material isn't there, who can't do that?
Right.
Why is that even an Oscar worthy thing?
You made something already good, not as bad.
Right, exactly.
Like, also, by the way, every time you adapt a book, it's worse.
Yeah.
And there's still an award for that.
When is there been a book, Adapt the Godfather, some people say?
Yeah.
Who's actually read the Godfather book?
I mean, enough people, they made a movie.
There's been somebody else.
No, I'm talking about Asians.
Like our generation.
I don't know.
That's not the point.
The point is, is that it's rare that the movie is better than the book.
There's a lot of things that goes into that, right?
Obviously, when you're watching a book, you have an expect, not watching when you're reading a book.
You create what these characters look like in your head.
Like when I was reading Angels and Demons and what is the other book?
The Da Vinci Code?
The Da Vinci Code.
Richard Gere was the Langdon guy.
It wasn't dorky ass fucking Tom Hanks.
I was furious.
I was like, Tom Hanks not going to get no pussy while you're trying to decode shit.
I was so pissed off because I had this suave guy with the, you know, what is it?
The silver fox.
Silver hair.
The silver hair.
Dude, I almost saw Richard Gere the other day.
It wasn't Richard Gere, but I was staring at that motherfucker.
I was like, you canceled gerbil fucking dude here.
You remember that rumor?
He's friends with the Dalai Lama.
He puts gerbils in his ass.
That was a rumor.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I don't think so.
That's the most believable thing that's come out of Hollywood.
But Cindy Crawford put a gerbil up his ass.
We all do it.
It's not even a question.
I do it with 55-year-old Cindy Crawford today.
Anyway, so the point is, episode trash.
They sucked at the fucking storyline.
It was just like kind of, I was defending it the last two seasons.
I thought six was really good.
Seven was bad.
Seven was terrible in hindsight.
I was really defending it the whole way through seven when people were complaining about this exact issue, which is that it was getting away from the books.
Strategic Move for Tormund00:07:31
The fans of the books were like, oh, this isn't what we thought was going to happen.
This is what we're setting up for.
I was like, just wait.
Just wait until basically this episode.
That's last week.
I was like, wait until this happens.
Because I was the one who was like holding out on the White Walkers.
I thought the Night King had a whole fucking backstory.
I know.
Everything that I thought was going to happen didn't.
And it was a fucking, it was like really, really.
Dog shit.
But you blame George R. Martin.
Yeah, because it comes down to he just didn't.
He's getting a lot of people.
But he's getting pussy for the first time in his entire life.
He's a 90-year-old lawn gnome.
And for the first time in his life, he's able to bang 20-year-old hot chicks.
But the last book was written, I thought, in like 97.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, the last book came out, I think, after that.
But the first book came out in like early 90s.
Like, it's so much time to fucking write this shit.
Yeah.
It seems like a lot to write, though.
Some real detailed backstories here.
By the way, he said if the last two books that he's writing right now were to be adapted properly, they'd be five seasons of material.
That's what he said, quoted.
That would make sense, though.
And so that's why.
Why would that make sense?
Because the way everything feels sped up now.
Like, all right, for example.
So wildly sped up.
What do you mean?
From how we went from, I guess it was probably when the book stopped, John Dying, to how we got here, happened really fucking fast in hindsight.
But even that, that's what drawn out.
How about just in this past episode tonight, the relationship between Jamie and Brienne?
That would be like a season and a half worth of material where they're like hooking up.
Fair enough.
Or the narrative now bad.
Yeah, but I'm going to be honest with you.
I like.
All right, let's start.
Let's get into this episode.
First of all, Cersei is that bitch.
Cersei deserved that throne, bro.
It's her realm.
She's the smartest motherfucker in the world on Team Cersei.
She deserves it.
First of all, this little midget better step.
Cersei Hive.
Yo, Cersei Hive all day.
Certainly hive.
Yo, Cersei needs to come through with the marching band outfits next episode for War.
We stay in our queen, bro.
She needs to come through and they was like, no, that was my shit, Beyonce.
You stole that shit from me.
No, I've been on that.
Real talk.
All I'm trying to say is this.
This episode, this past episode, I personally love.
I personally love.
Way better.
Way better.
It just goes to show you, we don't give a fuck about these battles.
You're wasting your money on these battles.
I just care about the game.
I care about everybody outsmarting each other.
And the midget needs to step it up because this whole season they're talking about, you're the smartest guy in the realm.
You were the smartest guy in the realm.
I don't see a lot of smarts here.
He's been drinking a lot.
Is that what they're saying?
He's been watching numbs, dude.
He's been back.
Son.
He's been fucking up.
Well, he hasn't been on his A game.
They've mentioned that a couple times.
And that's the thing that was another part of the thing that's been really sped up: Tyrion went from that guy to fucking Jeff Green, like, or some scrub off the bench.
Yeah.
Just like, what happened here?
Really?
I don't know what's going on.
And he's totally given up.
Remember, there was a moment where he, there was a moment, I forget which season when he was like, you know, she is the rightful queen.
She's going to do what's right for the realm, right?
And then there was discussion tonight with Varys, and Varys was like, yo, I protect the realm.
The writing's on the wall.
This bitch is about to go crazy.
We're making the wrong moves.
Cersei's playing games with her.
Like, dude, the way Cersei bodied Daenerys, dude.
The way she bodied Daenerys.
That fucking scene where, I mean, she's just playing around with her.
She's baiting him.
She's baiting her.
She's waiting for her to come with the fucking dragon.
Lay all the people off her.
She's like, hey, come on in, baby.
Let's do it.
Let's cook.
I got a lot of poor people that need to be lit on fire.
I can't feed them.
She light them on fire.
Yeah, she just wants it to be her.
She is so ready to turn her into the mad queen, and this bitch don't even know it.
She's walking right the fuck in.
Dude, I was.
That was, but let's.
The problem I had with this episode was like the first half.
Well, look, we got the after party, right?
We had the battle.
The after party was like, son, it was like, I thought I was watching like a 90s teen movie or the first half an hour.
I thought it was can't hardly wait.
Because everyone's at the party, and then they go off and do it.
That's a great movie.
Great movie.
Great movie, Jim.
And Rob Hewitt.
You feel me?
Legend.
Trip McNeely.
But go on, go.
Yo, it was a little too much.
I just thought I was thinking it was all the storylines were becoming real convenient and everyone was pairing off and doing their thing.
It was just corny to me.
Why didn't you, sorry, why'd you like it, Annie?
Yeah, because Torman was cooking.
Torman was cooking.
Like, yo, he was the best.
They had a lot of some stuff in, like, when Daenerys gave Gendry, like, you know, made him a lord.
Yeah.
But then that.
For that split second, you were like, is she about to be like, your father killed my family?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, you were kind of, I was like, I was wondering if she was about to lose everyone right there and be like, you're dead.
But then I didn't.
And it was just a party, man.
Well, no, no, no, no.
Fun little party.
It was just a strategic move.
That's what I loved about it.
Yeah, it was a strategic move.
Like that move right there let me know we're back into the game.
Right.
Right?
We're done with the battles and the fuck shit.
We're back into the game.
Right.
I need some loyalty up north because these bitches are not fucking with me and I'm not going to win over these starks.
They can see right through my fuck shit.
So let me get Gendry on board.
Yeah.
Let me get these other people potentially on board.
Smart.
One thing, one thing happens in that episode, and it's with Jamie.
My favorite part of the whole episode, we found out why Jamie went up there in the first place.
He wasn't in love with this big bitch.
He didn't give a fuck about the North.
He loves his queen.
Yeah.
The whole shit was to protect Cersei and his kid the whole time.
He might have got some pussy and the big girl attaches herself to like the better angels of his character or whatever that fucking saying is.
But deep down, he's like, I'm a hateful person.
I'm a piece of shit.
I still think he's going to be the one to kill her, though.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And then he dies or something like that.
I got a couple questions for you.
So you think this whole time he was just, all right, I'm going to go help them win this battle, but I'm going to come right back to you.
I got to protect.
I protect Cersei.
You think that was his intention the whole time.
I do now, yeah.
Or do you think at that moment?
He said it pretty explicitly.
Yeah.
I got Tailman at his word.
I would have killed River Run.
I would have killed whatever, right?
He said, I've done all these other things.
I thought I pushed a kid out of window.
I'll do anything for Cersei.
I fucked a six foot six.
I felt that they were trying to imply that, but I felt it was a little ambiguous.
And there's a little room for interpretation that he was just like, she's poison, and I have to go kill her to get rid of her.
Fam, what?
Well, here's the thing.
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
A little part of it.
He was explicit.
Hold on.
That he was in love with her.
And that he, too, was a rotten person.
And this is why they really belong to her.
But it's the two sides, right?
So he's shown us that he has those two sides.
And I think what happened was he, I think he wanted maybe to die in that battle.
Like, he wanted to give it a shot of being like the noble knight that would have died in the Battle of Winterfell.
And now that he's lived, he's got to confront, like, is he going to stay with Brienne?
He tried that.
But you know what happened?
As soon as he heard about Cersei in trouble, he can't get over that need to go, you know, join her, which I think he's going to be conflicted with for the next few episodes until it comes to that time when he has to.
Okay, so there was this guy.
I forget the guy's name.
I wish I could credit him.
But he said he had a great synopsis of the last episode.
He goes, and why it was dog shit.
He goes, what are they called?
When you switch the plot, the plot twists.
Harpoon Twist and Stakes00:02:53
The plot twists at Game of Thrones used to not only surprise the viewer, but surprise the characters in the show.
Right.
And last episode had zero surprises for the characters.
It was just.
In a way, the twist was that there was no twist.
Right, right, right.
So this episode, perfect situation, is with Jamie, right?
It surprises us.
Wait, what?
Did Jamie just break that again?
And it surprised Brianne.
Brianne, right?
The harpoon or the air harpoon or whatever taking out the dragon surprises Danny.
Surprises me.
Everybody surprised the fuck out of me, too.
And that neck shot, it was like, finally, we get to see a dragon die the way we want to see it.
He died.
Bye.
See you later.
By the way, where's John?
Protect your neck.
Why isn't he riding?
He said it, though.
What do you say?
Because he was injured.
He was injured and he didn't want his extra weight out.
Bro, the 16.
Yeah.
My mom's like, oh, you're the, you're the, you're the weight of two fleas.
Fuck it.
Oh, shit.
I didn't even hear that.
But yeah, dude, it's a 20-ton dragon.
He can't have 5'8 John on his back because that'd be really difficult.
You know, I could totally see the issue there.
But no, they need to kill that dragon.
It was like a convenient way of doing it.
Yeah, right.
They need to even the stakes a little bit.
A little bit.
Now, all right.
Is it just me?
Is a dragon that effective?
I'm not feeling like they're that effective.
They are.
I mean, look, more vulnerable than they used to be.
Way more vulnerable.
Like, they have all those, what are we going to call them?
Air harpoons?
What are they?
It's also the dragon's weapons.
The weapon that shoots the, what is it?
It's a harpoon.
It's a harpoon.
Oh, the harpoon.
The harpoon.
Is that what a harpoon is?
They got 50.
I thought harpoons in the water.
It's a spear.
Spear.
Whatever.
Spear bow and arrow.
Fine.
Crossbow.
Cross crossbow.
Giant crossbow.
Giant crossbow.
Let's go with that.
Giant crossbow.
Heavy caliber.
Super heavy.
Yeah.
Like official.
She took out a boat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they improved it from the seasons, right?
Like, they had the whole little thing.
They got it all over the place.
No, we're just going to fucking shoot it.
You're telling me it can't hit him?
Kyber's been tweaking.
They did hit him.
The official name.
No, I'm saying when they come back again.
What's that?
A ballista.
A ballista.
Oh, the ballista.
Okay, we'll call it a ballista.
Basically, you have the ballistas all over the castle, right?
There's no way Cersei can fly in.
What is she going to do?
It's over.
Like, I don't even see why she brought the dragon that close.
If it was up to me, I would have shooted the dragon right there.
She's flexing.
Yeah, she's showing off.
That was a flex.
Well, you're going to put a little muscle if you're going to keep flexing like that.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, she ended up with egg on her face, but it was an attempt at a flex.
She needed to quit with that flex.
And their previous fight, they didn't have a bunch of them.
They just had one.
Right.
Yeah.
Going in, you didn't know that they had a bad one.
Know that they were on the boats and they perfected the art while they were fighting everybody else.
Yeah.
Which was smart.
Yeah.
All I'm saying is, I don't think, like, Tyrion pulled up and he's like, listen, we're going to spare you.
We're going to spare all these people.
They don't have to die.
And I'm looking at Tyrion like, fam.
You're an underdog.
Yeah.
He's got 15 unsullied.
Bran Lives Past Wolf00:14:28
He's only getting seven points.
Come on, bro.
Did you look at the board?
You got no pieces.
Like, you showed the board, right?
Not great.
And you got the golden company, but you don't even need that.
You just need the ballistas.
Once you take out the dragon, it's over for them, right?
How dumb of it was Danny to bring the dragon back to that meeting?
It was in the background, wasn't it?
It was in the background.
Yo, right.
I would have shot no one in like 10.
My assumption is that they're just totally out of range.
That's just my assumption.
Right?
I'm just going to play a little bit of a break.
If they were out of range, it wouldn't have taken that midget 10 seconds to walk to the gate.
The midget walked to the gate in 10 seconds.
Which is not likely when you're at the back.
The gate is six inches.
It's a bad statement.
It would have taken a fucking day for Tyrion to get there.
So we stood up a little bit.
That's what I'm saying.
The dragon's got to be close enough to hit.
I would have taken the shot at the dragon right there and then chopped off Masani.
Maybe he, I don't know.
Maybe it really was 15 minutes for Tyrion to get there.
Dude, Tyrion is so fucking disappointing with these debate skills.
Like he knows his sister don't give a fuck.
Why is he trying to play into him the whole time?
She's like, I thought you were smarter than this.
How can you not see it?
And that's, you know, I have my problems with Sansa throughout the season, but she's right about that.
Finally, he's become a little bit of an optimist, and it's not really working in his favor.
Yes.
Yeah, and he was always the eternal pessimist.
Where does he get this optimism?
Because of the dragons.
The moment he credits the moment he saw the dragon.
That's true.
Remember in like season five when he's with Jorah?
Yeah.
They're going through Valeria and he's like, oh shit.
Everything that I thought was like wrong about this world is right.
Yes.
And he's been downhill ever since.
He's been so bad that I actually, for like a split second, was like, is he working with Cersei?
Yo.
But that would be like that.
I was like, oh, that'd be a crazy tense.
I was like, but that kind of goes against everything of the history of the show that we've watched.
Well, you still don't know about that conversation they had in season seven.
Seven.
Seven.
We assumed it was the baby, but it could have been something else.
It could have been something else.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And then we still don't know about the off-screen, the off-screen conversation he had with Brand the night before.
I think that was just him telling his whole story.
They just didn't show it.
Oh, okay.
Unless they were like really strategizing the big play.
Right.
So if that were to happen, would that be like something that you'd like or dislike?
You find out Tyrion's actually really cool.
I don't like the off-screen shit.
Bran said something this episode.
He goes, I mostly live in the past.
Did you guys pick up that line?
I think there's value in that line, and I don't understand why he's mostly living in the past.
No, I think he's sad.
Right?
Because he can't.
Because now his presence is...
It happened.
He was here to stop this war.
And he sacrificed who he was as a person.
And now it's over.
And it's like, where do I go now?
He's realizing what we were arguing.
I am just, I'm totally fucked up in the head.
Yeah.
What we were complaining about, which I had a big complaint about Brand, which is like, he's just basically his whole character.
The only reason why he is the three-eyed raven is a device to tell us about John's lineage.
That's his only purpose.
Like, if he's not going to, in that battle, he just turns the crows.
Like, if he's not going to warg into a dragon, like, what is his real purpose?
He just is constantly looking back into the past.
And like, he's the record book, I guess.
He's the history book for everything that's going down.
Dude, he's just a peeping Tom.
And that's why he got his neck broke in the first place.
It's like, if he wouldn't mind his business, he just became this character that gets to just stare at other people while they do shit.
But he looked like sad.
I took that as he's always looking weird.
I just thought that I live on the speck.
He's on the speck.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
He seemed at least leading up to it, comfortable with it.
Like, listen, this is who I am now.
I'm totally fucked up, but like, I'm going to do this because we've got to get to the end here.
But now it's like he's just kind of the secret's out and he's sitting there and he's just kind of like, I mostly live in the past now.
But I don't envy you because I mostly live in the past.
So now he's back to being Bran?
Now he's just back to being a guy who's like lost his three eye raven, but what's the point?
You don't need a three-eyed raven when...
There's no white walker.
Yeah, there's no white walkers.
And so the three-eyed raven was only there to prepare for white walkers this whole time?
Yeah, and to tell the John story.
That's what I'm saying.
Story-wise.
Not story-wise.
I'm saying within...
Within the world?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
Within the world, his importance is being the history of the world.
Right?
Right.
So he has to.
There always has to be a three-eyed raven, even if there's no end.
Because they maintain this history.
Yeah.
Okay.
So he's just trapped in a human version of a library.
Are they fun?
No.
No, they're not fun.
Exactly.
His life's not fun.
Yeah, but I feel like his life wasn't boring or fun.
I think it just was.
Like, I didn't know he had any emotional reaction to anything.
That's true.
So all of a sudden he's sad seems peculiar to me.
I don't buy that.
Sure.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I don't buy this.
I mostly live in the past.
Like, I feel like he's trying to calculate something.
I feel like...
Well, maybe that's a hint because there's a theory, and this was like a lot of people that were grabbing for the Night King coming back or there being more meaning to all this.
There's a theory that the time travel element kind of similar to Hodor, how he went back and then it affected the present day timeline with him, you know what I mean?
Yes.
Or sorry, it affected the past timeline.
Him getting fucked up and saying Hodor was affected by him holding the door.
Right.
The same thing might happen in a way with the time travel element.
I'm not saying like, there was another theory that it was like Endgame where Cersei just kills everyone and then Bran has to go back and run it back.
Yeah, run it back.
But I don't think they're going to do that.
They can't just do that.
There's two episodes.
After this episode, that pretty much squashed that theory.
But there's still a chance for him to affect a lot of shit with like a failed jump into the past or something or into the future or whatever it is.
Is it a lot that we see him again in the next two episodes?
Yeah, I think we haven't seen the end of him.
I don't know if we see Sam and Torment again and all of them.
It felt like we were really saying bye to them.
I think Torm is out.
Sam Gilly.
Sam and Gilly, I think, are still in play.
I mean, where would they go?
Also, Ghost.
You're going to give Ghosts to the fucking Wildlings.
That was weird.
That was weird.
Something was off with that.
That's one reason why I think we'll see Torment again, possibly, because he'll show up with Ghost.
It sounds about right.
There's also a situation where the dragons kind of represent the Targaryens or the animals represent.
Yeah.
So like that dragon dying is like, oh shit, is John going to die?
And then he sends away his wolf.
And when you lose a wolf, don't you die as well?
Isn't that what happens with all the starks?
So the dragons...
Dragons represent...
Don't dragons.
Sans' dog died.
Yeah, no.
Oh, really?
It doesn't really reflect that.
Also, we don't know where Arya's dog is, Naimeria.
No, we saw her in the wild.
Yeah, but currently, she could just pop up anywhere.
Right, right, right.
With the rest of the Dire Wolf.
Why would he send the thing back?
That's such a weird thing.
Why would you send the dog back?
Because Dire Wolf belongs to the North.
It doesn't come south.
So let him stay in Winterfell when he comes back for a little summer vacay.
He wanted to get out and stretch his legs a little bit.
There's no room in Winterfell?
Well, who cares?
It's a dog.
I care.
Wouldn't you want to see the dog?
But John's not in Winterfell anymore.
He's on his way south.
When you come back, he's not coming back.
John's not coming back.
This was a goodbye.
John is saying, I'm going to be in the capital.
It made it clear, like, this is the last time we're going to see John seeing all these characters.
Whether we see them again as the audience, John's not coming back.
And Sansa's right.
Like, the Starks, even though everybody's saying he's not a Stark, he still has to.
They still have Stark.
So it's like Starks don't, male Starks don't have a good time in Winterfell.
I mean, in King's Landing.
They don't come back.
So I think that's still going to rain true.
So John's dead.
Yeah.
I think so.
His dragon's dead.
His wolf is gone.
He's done.
Or is this Game of Thrones trying to pull one on us?
Maybe.
Are they trying to do a little bit of a bad thing?
If John's saying, I'm going down there, we're taking over, and I'm not coming back.
We're setting up shop.
She's going to get on her throne down there, and I'm going to be her right-hand man, and we're setting up.
I'm confused if he still is sexually attracted to her.
I don't think he is.
I don't think he is.
He was about to undress her, and then he's like, I can't.
Yeah.
That's why he stopped.
So, like, she's into Targaryen.
Targaryens historically have their families.
It's totally normal.
Not totally normal.
But he's a stark.
So it's not normal for him.
He's a stark.
And he's like, I can't do this.
But he tried.
He made out with her for a little bit.
And then it's.
And when Veris and Tyrion were talking, that's what they said.
Right.
That's exactly what they said, actually.
I don't know.
It ain't going to happen, bro.
I really don't think it's going to happen.
He's not into it.
Why is he going down?
Because he's like stupid loyal for some reason.
But maybe there's a part of John that knows that this bitch is crazy.
Definitely.
She is absolutely crazy and she's going to go mad queen.
And John is going to have to save the realm by taking this bitch out.
And dying.
Maybe sacrificing himself for the facts.
The guy can't wait to die.
This motherfucker loves dying.
Yeah.
But I do think she's going to go Mad Queen.
That's the ultimate.
I think she's already there.
There was a moment where her pupils were fucking dilated.
Did you see that part?
Yo, I thought she was.
Holy shit.
I thought she did a really good job of acting.
I thought she was great.
I thought she was like Amelia.
One of her better performers.
Clark Clark.
Great, like in the scene where everyone's cheering John at the house.
You just see her going crazy.
And then at the end, when even when they were just in the room together, and she was like, you know, I promise me you won't tell anyone.
Like, she was like really fucking delivering that shit.
Like, she went like a little girl crazy on him.
Like, very believable.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah, man.
It's well, yeah, he snitched immediately, bro.
Bro, so he's like, you have a good one.
He was like, you have a choice.
That's fine.
You got him on a technical counsel.
John, I didn't say shit.
I didn't say shit.
Yo.
Wait, wait, wait.
Got him on a technical counter.
He said, Bran, let her know.
Let him know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I made an oath.
I made a promise.
Dude, the knee is still bent.
There's going to be a scene where Danny's like, why'd you tell?
He said, technically speaking, you keep talking about how I'm short.
Well, sometimes people got to find out.
You know what I mean?
Say, I'm 5'8 again, bitch.
That was amazing.
What about Bran saying the choice is yours?
It's like, what are you going to say after that?
You can't tell me that.
You can't not tell the truth about that.
You're like, we choose the most.
He's literally said nothing that made sense on the whole fucking scene.
And then all of a sudden, one little tasty treat he just puts out there.
All right, tell it then.
I wish I kind of wanted to see him say it because I wanted to see Arya's face.
You know, it was fucked up.
No, because their whole life they're like, my dad went out somewhere and fucked some other girl, and he's not the super honorable man that everyone says he is.
And they just find out, no, he is.
He was the most honorable man.
So you get to see a bunch of different reveals.
Yeah.
You get to actually new fate.
That's what I'm saying.
I wish I could see.
If it was expedited version, you would have seen that.
And like, that would have been a long scene of them going through the range of emotions.
Oh, you're not my brother.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my dad's a hero still.
But the difference is unless Bran lied.
Unless Bran lied on purpose.
That's a possibility.
Maybe he has to do what has to be done in order to get to the outcome.
No, because Sansa told Tyrion to do win cold.
What did Sansa tell Tyrion?
No, because we don't know.
And then Tyrion told Varus.
Told Varus what?
That's what I saw.
And Varris is saying, yo, yo, she's his aunt.
Like, they broke it all down.
Fair enough, fair enough, fair enough.
Here's the thing.
The difference between how it's going deep down a rabbit hole right there.
That's going real deep.
That would have been ill.
That shit would have been ill.
We got you.
Yo, Sansa came back quick too, though, bro.
There was no place.
Everyone came quick.
What if Bran was...
Thomas Cion Sanchez.
The next person I talked to.
It was high school.
That's what Varris said.
He's like, what is it?
What is it?
If more than five people know it's information, 100% information.
Everybody in the North knows.
They just look at her goofy.
Like, that's why you lost.
That's why you lost a dragon.
Stupid.
Stupid.
But that's the difference.
The difference between even two more episodes is seeing a lot of those conversations that are so satisfying that we can't see, which is like right.
If there was, if you're saying if there was two more seasons here, we get to see all that play out.
That would be like, you know, finale.
Fair enough.
You know what I mean?
Yo.
Daenerys resisted the urge to burn it all down.
We don't know yet.
No, she didn't.
No, I saw those ballistas.
When the first dragon died.
Yeah.
Right?
At that moment.
Oh, she was about to burn the ships down and then go burn everything down.
She resisted turning around.
So now she's going to go back and I'm like, fuck all you guys.
I saw the threat of I would still have this.
Haney's going to get this point out, even though he's wrong.
Go.
Yeah.
Get this point out.
She's fucking so wrong.
She was infuriated to the point where she was going to make a very emotional decision to try and blow these guys away, even though she was going to get murdered.
She was about to get lit.
She failed.
Because she was like, fuck that.
Because she's not full Mad Queen yet.
She got a little bit of sanity left in her.
And that sanity left in her had her turn around and let all her people die.
That's another fuck shit, right?
It's like, she let all of her ships with the unsullied, with her.
Say what?
You said that I was like, point to one.
I saw the genocide.
I saw that.
I seen it.
One dude ran back.
One dude ran back with his sword still on fire.
Like, we out.
That was the same thing.
He didn't make eye contact.
No, man.
He spoke English.
He's like, yo, we out.
Yo, this shit crazy over there, bro.
My bad, I was speaking that goofy language.
Real talk.
I spoke English.
I fucking fuck with them.
I really won't go with that.
It was crazy.
I don't even know why I'm in this outfit.
I'm from High Guard and me.
Why are we even here?
Like, let's go somewhere else.
This is stupid.
It's called.
Real talk, right?
Look, man.
Yeah.
I think 100% Mad Queen we see next episode.
And I think that's why Amelia Clark's been teasing episode 5.
She loves episode 5.
She loves.
She's like, what'd you say?
Get a big screen or something like that?
Yeah, get a big screen.
It's her favorite episode of the show.
Blah, blah, blah.
If this bitch dies, and that's why she's promoting it.
No, I think it's going to be, I think big battle next week, maybe Fall of Cersei, but I think the last episode's about taking down Daenerys as the Mad Queen.
So you think Cersei goes next week, fam?
Maybe, maybe.
It's got to happen.
I get it.
What else is going to happen in the next two episodes?
I want Cersei to have it.
I think Cersei deserves it.
I agree.
I think that maybe everything we wanted last week, we're going to get next week.
Oh, Jamie's out.
We're not getting everything we wanted.
That's long gone.
What you mean?
What you mean?
I wanted Night King.
We're not going to get any more Night King.
What did you want from Night King?
I wanted so much more shit from Night King.
At least one move.
I wanted one move.
I wanted a whole...
Look, Night King might as well have been general fucking Snoke from Star Wars.
Trash.
Just cardboard cut out of a villain.
He just wants to destroy mankind for the sake of destroying mankind.
No dimension.
The reason why we love Game of Thrones is because we get introduced to characters is one thing.
And then throughout the seasons, we find out that there are other things.
Every single character is different than where we were originally introduced to them.
The Night King, I thought, was going to have like, maybe he's a stark.
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There was a theory that he was going back into the crypts to get his wife, who was like a dead stark, or like some crazy shit like that.
He's just there to just be a big bad.
Yeah.
And he's not even a big bad.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Can we acknowledge one thing that was kind of cruel of the Game of Thrones producers, at least, is to do like the Gendry Arya kiss scene and then immediately follow it with the Brianne.
Yeah.
James.
What do you mean?
French warriors?
So are you a kissing?
Don't bother me.
Say what?
No, we're already past that.
I already saw the side of it.
Nah, bro.
I'm not into it.
She's too tiny.
He has to literally like fold in half to go down there and kiss it.
It feels weird.
It feels weird to me.
But it wasn't as weird as the Brianne and Jamie thing.
Well, Jamie got to go up on his tippies, bro.
That was wild.
That was wild.
He got fucking Amazon.
He did.
He did, bro.
He went for it.
Dude, it was literally fucking legs off.
He had to go up.
He had to go up.
She picked him up, saddled him, took him to the bed, bro.
Let's do this.
That's why he switched sides.
Pussy was Travis.
Yo, real talk.
Like that again.
Yo, remember when Tyrion asked if she had a big pussy down there?
He specifically said, Does she have a big pussy?
He's trying to find a place to hide.
That's exactly it.
Wait, he didn't say, does she have a pussy?
He says, How is it down there?
What else do you mean?
Yeah, bro.
Like, real talk.
Fam, it was probably a lot of fun.
She had a dick.
Yo, what if, what if she, what if she just monster clip?
Absolutely, bro.
Chop that down with some Valerian steel sopping wet.
That's what she used for palmade.
That's why her hair's been back so long.
Fucking Redley was her dude before.
Why was this so shocking that she's a virgin?
Like, there was this thing, you're a virgin?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because she's old.
She's a grown woman.
Yeah, that's why it's shocking.
She's very grown.
She's big.
Who's going to chop that tree down?
That's a big thing to do.
Who's going to fuck them?
It's cold out there in those streets, man.
Everyone will fuck anything.
She's not a wild.
Yo, by the way, where did all these hot, thirsty northern girls do?
Yo, Santa was pimping.
Santa was pimping them out.
Santa was pimping, legit pimping.
Yeah, they came out of nowhere and they're just hitting on everyone.
They were in the crypt.
Solid.
They've been in the crypt.
Keep the horrors in the crib.
Those are women.
Keep the horrors in the crypt, bro.
Absolutely.
They look like Gilly without the neck.
Yo, if I'm acknowledged that Gilly has just, I thought she just gained a bunch of weight.
She's pregnant.
I guess the actress is really pregnant, so that's why they had to lay.
Thank God, because we've been making fun of her.
Like, really?
She's a real pregnant person.
Now I feel horrible.
Yeah, they had to explain it because she was so good.
She looked beautiful to me the whole time.
Yo, I feel horrible, babe.
I'm about to have brand new stuff.
No, dude, you can't make fun of pregnant women.
That was crazy, dog.
Listen, that was they got children coming out, bro.
That's nuts.
That was fucked up.
Can you believe, dude, the things we were saying about her fucking neck?
You said it with Gilly with the gills.
What did you call her a stork?
Yeah, she did look like a stork.
Gilly with the gills.
Gilly with the gills.
She had a cow and that gills.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude.
It was, it was.
Oh, man.
Now, we were really leaning in, but it was only because I thought it was only because I didn't know she was pregnant.
I thought she was an actress making awesome.
I've never seen an actress get fatter as they got more famous.
That's a puzzling thing.
Usually the issue is like you look good.
Usually you get famous.
And then you start doing coke.
You start getting in shape.
You get a dietitian.
You get all the shit.
And then we see her this season, and her fucking shit.
She's got his fucking fat suit on.
Bro.
Who's the Scottish guy in the what is that movie?
Brave Heart?
No.
No.
Scottish?
Rob Roy?
International Man of Mystery.
Austin Powers?
Yeah.
Fat Bastard.
Fat Bastard.
That's what her neck looked like, bro.
You called the Fat Bastard.
I did?
Yeah, you did.
I didn't mean it as the character.
I just thought she looked like a fat.
But I didn't know she was pregnant.
Then I would never say that.
Because it's beautiful when women gain weight during pregnancy because it gives life to the kid.
Do you know?
And then hope she loses it afterwards.
I mean, you would hope that she get a little snapback game.
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Sam ain't helping.
You know, water and fucking.
Sam ain't.
Yeah, Sam ain't all.
Sam, right?
Sam ain't.
Should we have some biscuits again?
Would you like some more biscuits, Gilly?
Sam is just getting enabled, bro.
That should be the spin-off.
It's just both of them just rolling around with her fellows, two fucking beach balls.
No, is he going to?
Is he going to?
He's like the last Harley, right?
So does he take his castle?
Wait, is it Highgarden or is it?
No, Highgarden is where the Lannisters are.
Is that River Run?
Hang on.
High Run.
Oh, no, I'm sure.
No.
No, River Run is Lannister's.
Highgarden.
Highgarden.
It wasn't where, like, Highgarden was a Toronto Trinity.
Marjorie?
Where's Marjorie?
The Terrells.
Oh, yeah.
The Terrells.
Yeah, that was Tyrell.
And the old lady, the lady that killed Joffrey.
Yeah.
What did the police side out of town?
But yeah, we've seen it before.
We went there.
So he goes back there?
Why is he going back?
Why isn't he?
I don't know.
I don't know.
He's boss still.
No, he's good.
You think that he doesn't have to do any more?
We got more fighting to do.
Well, no, he's going to become the maester, the grand maester.
You think?
Yeah.
He's going to the library.
He sounds like he's retiring.
He's going to go to the citadel.
Okay, is that what he's going to do?
He was going to the citadel.
I thought that's what Daenerys was saying when she came in before she dropped the bomb that she killed his dad and brother.
She was like, oh, you're going to be.
She hinted at it.
I can't remember exactly what she said, but she said, you'll be reading a lot or something like that.
Okay.
Back to law school.
Okay.
Okay.
And how are they going there?
I don't know if they're going there right now.
I think John was just saying bye to them.
They might be staying at Winterfell for now or no.
That's probably right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was happening so quick.
That's the thing.
It's like, I have to rewatch these episodes like three times because there's so much shit.
Yeah.
That happens too quick.
And I'm like, oh, what the fuck happened?
Okay, so what do we have in store for next week?
What do we think is going down?
What do I want to happen or what is the dissification of what's going to happen, which seems to be what is happening now in this show?
I don't know what you just said, bro, but you've got to give us one of those.
He said dissification.
Dysnification.
Like, it's the Disney version.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who dies?
The dissification.
Yeah, it's made up of word.
Yo, watching, real quick, though, watching Masande die like that does make me feel a little bit better that more of the main characters didn't die on the last battle because it was actually just a little bit more like, I don't know if poignant is the right word.
Yeah, but don't you feel like that should have happened like three times?
Don't be insecure about your vocab when he's busting these words.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't make it question yourself, bro.
You put on dissertification, and now you don't know what poignant means, bro.
Come on, man.
No, but it was like.
It's good as grad out here, dog.
It's better.
It was a while ago.
Whatever.
Nah, Love, say it.
But it was better when, like, watching her die at the hands of more dramatically than just like some dead guy poking her in the face.
I loved it.
You loved it.
I loved it.
Loved it.
And it was old Game of Thrones.
For a hot second, I thought that maybe she was going to pull the face off and it was going to be Arya.
Well, that would just be ridiculous.
I know.
But that's what I by the way.
I still have a theory that.
Arya needs to just merc someone that no one knows about and then just wear their face.
Yo, she might do that with Jamie.
What if Jamie dies?
I was hoping she did it with Brain.
That's what we were saying.
Kills.
Yeah, we were talking about that in one of the past episodes where we think that Arya could possibly put you because what is the prophecy?
The prophecy.
Her younger brother, Jamie's like a minute or two younger.
But that's a book prophecy that book readers have shared with us.
It's never been said on the show.
I thought that the other prophecies, like your kids are going to die, but he didn't actually say that one.
And then all the book readers are like, oh, wait, wait, he missed one.
I think they said the show.
But one thing we know about Game of Thrones, prophecies come true.
Right.
Every prophecy has come true so far.
Every single one, except for the ones that are still waiting to fit.
Except with the Red Witch.
She was old.
She went cold.
She went 04-7 to start the game, and then she got back in it.
Yeah, but it still came true.
True.
She just did.
She just was following the wrong one.
Right.
But Azara High still happened.
Just a little, a little kid had to get burned to death before she figured it out.
She made a lot of mistakes on the way.
Don't we all?
Yeah.
Did you guys see the video of the little Mormon chick breakdancing?
Yo, that was crazy.
Wait, what?
I saw you put that out.
Was it any good?
It was apparently not her.
And it didn't look like her.
What do you mean it didn't look like her?
It looked exactly like her.
What do you think?
You thought that it was.
Wait, you thought it didn't look at it like her?
Yo, man, maybe I didn't watch the whole video.
How could it look?
I'm confused.
You looked at that video that literally the entire internet looked at and thought looked like her, and you were like, no, that's definitely not her.
She was the same size person, but it looked like a different face.
No, no, no.
Keep on going with the similarities because I want to see where they stop.
It was the same size.
That was the same size person.
See, she got hair.
Hair similar or what?
Hair's the same.
Without complexion.
White skin tone.
White skin tone.
Right.
So.
That was it.
Pretty much what makes a person.
Cool.
That's racist.
Why?
Like, that's like saying everyone with the same.
But why would you think it was not her?
Because the face didn't look like her.
While she was doing headspins, you could get a good look at her face.
This guy's out of his mind.
Yeah, you know.
She was doing a helicopter.
Right.
You saw her face for a fraction of a second.
Okay.
Was it determined that it was her?
Was it determined that it was her?
No, it wasn't her.
You're right.
But there's no reason why you're.
No, But let me get it up.
Don't pull it up.
He's funny.
Tell me.
Tell me, like, oh, that's a dead ringer.
Son, he's insane for like, bro.
It looked just like her.
If you saw it without him saying, however, you prefaced in your tweet, I wouldn't have thought it was her.
But the fact that he said it made me go back and be like, wait, is that her?
Nah, no, it's not her.
Okay.
Hold on, let me get this up so y'all can judge the fuck out of there.
Y'all could judge the fuck out of Haney.
Wait a minute.
Oh, no.
I don't know.
It's probably deep in there.
But the video looked just like this poor girl Rick Dancing.
Thank God she's out of here, huh?
Oh, here.
Look at this.
Tell me that doesn't look good.
She got moves.
Sorry.
I don't know how you thought.
That it didn't look like her.
It is her.
But it's not.
It's like a blurry face.
Good moves, girl.
She's nasty, bro.
It's not her.
It's not her.
Well, then, what was the point of the post?
Everybody thought it was her.
It was like a time virus.
It was like a funny joke.
Yeah, the whole thing went viral.
There's a reason why it was posted today.
Yeah.
Actually, I don't know when it came out.
I think it came out during the week.
There's a reason why it was posted during the week.
Yeah.
Wait, why?
Oh.
It's just like timely viral.
You think it was planned?
I think it was like Game of Thrones.
We got to get a Game of Thrones post out there.
So she looks like Lady Mormont.
Let's put it up.
For what reason?
To keep the combo going?
Lady Mormont's having a moment right now.
Yeah, big moment.
She just died last week.
In the goofiest scene maybe ever.
I hated that shit.
Me too.
But she charged it?
Yeah, yeah.
The whole, by the way.
The giant is going, what did I kill?
I'd like to get a closer look at what I just killed.
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You've never done that in the entire season.
Not to go back.
I had so much shit, but like, they come out with this release like three months ago saying it's the biggest battle in film or TV history.
I'm sorry.
It's fucking not.
I don't know.
Endgame was bigger, better.
Didn't let Lord of the Rings have like a bigger one?
Yeah, they had so many.
And you could see them.
Yeah.
You could see 60% of what the fuck was going on.
I didn't mind that aspect of it.
Come on.
No, it's hard.
Like the whole fog of war, it's confusing.
You don't know what's going on.
It's not that confusing, dude.
It's not that confusing.
I would have liked to see it.
Somebody put on Reddit the dragonfight slowed down with the quality of your TV, I guess, improved in some way and they made it lighter.
And it looked pretty cool.
There were some cool things that happened.
They had to slow it down.
So they slowed it down.
And then they made it lighter.
No, no, we're not arguing whether it was a poor decision by HBO.
We're saying this is what happened.
They fix it.
Somebody on Reddit, a nerd fixed it.
And then what happened in the scene, like you see the dragon dig his claws into the other dragon and like tear open his chest.
You can see that on the real one.
I didn't see that shit.
You got Haney visions?
How the fuck did you see this?
Lights off?
Son, I didn't see nothing, bro.
I didn't see any of that.
Dude, it looked like.
You showed every light off.
Sam, it was like a vape video.
That's what it looked like.
It looked like some of the shit.
I saw him clawing his chest out.
Yeah, I saw him.
Did you see him bite his face off?
Quickly, yes.
You are lying.
I'm not lying.
You are lying right here.
I didn't see any of that.
I didn't know what dragon was fighting what.
No, no, no, no.
Yo, absolutely not.
When did you win?
Regal was winning.
When did you watch it?
I watched it tonight off.
Oh, okay.
Because I think they had all the lights off in the crib.
Yo, a legend of the game.
Every game proved to you why.
If you watch it on one of the apps, like HBO Now, HBO, it's a better quality because the TV compresses the quality down a little bit and reduces a little bit.
Oh, that's a good quality.
So all this stuff.
I saw that this week, too.
So, like, if you watched it on the app, then maybe the first episode was.
That's just them playing catch up.
Don't be like, oh, that shit.
Fuck off.
That's nonsense.
Jack was really hurt.
Really?
I was really just in misery.
You know, because the show was in like goat conversation of greatest shows.
Oh, no.
The jump to shark is.
I think it's.
And now it's like.
I don't think it's ever going to be what it was.
All right.
In my eyes.
One thing this episode that I really want to see: when Tyrion jumps in the water, I just wanted to hear the sound doink.
Tell me that wouldn't have been perfect, right?
You know, that's going to get edited.
They got to make that video, right?
He just jumped in.
Doink?
Like a little drop.
It would have been perfect.
And then just to see him crawl stroke with his little arms, like, how did he get back?
It was a real awkward swim scene with him getting it.
I don't think he could.
Oh, yo, I didn't see any swimming.
They were swimming?
He jumped in.
It was like an awkward jump off.
I don't know.
I didn't love it.
I'm saying how he ended up on shore.
Oh, no.
He just, he just, someone dragged him.
Varus dragged him.
I thought Varus dragged him.
I actually like the filming of that scene.
No, the filming was cool until he doinked it.
But after the doink, you don't see what happened in the water?
I saw Varus take zone.
I thought Varus may was like low-key a good swimmer.
Why?
I don't know.
Maybe he was because he made it.
Yeah.
Because he's a comedian.
No, he's a comedian.
You know how swimmers all shave all their body hair and shit like that?
Varus is completely swimming.
He was doing laughs.
Extra buoyant.
That's what he does for exercise.
He was ready for this.
Does he feel like a sick onesie?
With like the straps.
He's got the cap.
Finally, I can be of service.
Yo, did we talk about the Braun scene, though?
Oh!
Braun scene.
Like a sitcom.
He came in and out.
It was like Kramer coming in.
I loved it.
Do we see Braun again?
Yes.
He's going to come in and save someone at some important moment.
He's going to end up saving Tyrion.
I don't think so.
I think he...
This is my theory.
My theory is he comes in and saves Tyrion because he's trying to act like he's a dick and he doesn't care and everybody fuck me over.
Deep down, he does fucking care.
And he's going to do it, and then he's going to end up with his castle.
And maybe if there's one guy that gets a happy ending, it's Braun.
But he had some bars in that scene.
I just felt like there should have been a live audience for that scene.
Like, ooh, and they're all laughing at a scene.
And then like, when he walks in, I liked it.
When he walks in, they applaud.
And when he walks out, they're like, oh.
Wait, you didn't like that scene?
It just felt rushed.
I wanted more time with them.
And it felt very condensed into like a sitcomy level.
Bro, I thought it was hysterical.
And the bars when he's like, he's like, you broke my nose.
He goes, I've been breaking nose since I was your size.
I don't know if it's a broken.
That would do that.
That's really great, man.
It was so good.
So, like, what I liked about it was that he, to me, I'm not saying that you're wrong.
I can see what you're saying happens, but he didn't in that moment feel conflicted at all.
No.
He was just like a murky.
I'm a business guy.
And I like that that's the direction they took.
It was like very direct.
Yeah.
But I think when Push comes to shove, though, he's going to go.
I think when Push comes to shove.
I don't think you see him until the last episode of the series, and he's like, hey, so he's going to one of them.
You're alive.
I want my castle.
No, no, before that, he's going to, and they're like, here's the keys, go ahead.
Before that, there's going to be like an arrow, kill someone from off-screen, and you turn and you see it's Braun.
And he's like, all right, now give me my money.
Because he's saying I'm staying away from the fight, but you're not staying away from the fight.
So you think he's fighting?
Absolutely.
Probably next episode.
He wants to smoke.
I don't know.
I have no idea what they're going to do.
I could see him not showing up.
Also, his life seems pretty good.
What is this castle thing?
Like, he has money, right?
He has a nice house.
Well, now he's getting high guard.
But it's like.
You're like 60.
Yeah, but it's like.
You're fucking three hookers and you're still not happy?
He's like, he's a millennial.
He's ambitious.
That's what he is.
No, he's not ambitious.
He's entitled.
You're alive.
No, no, he's not a bad guy.
He's got there.
He's done a lot to.
He's got there.
He has saved Jamie against the dragon's body.
He's like every Lannister except for Cersei.
Yeah.
Okay.
A lot of people have done a lot of savings.
He came from nothing.
He got a little bit of money.
Then he got a little bit more money than that's all those people.
He did more than Unsullied.
He did more than Greyworm?
No, but he finessed it.
What I'm saying is he made deals with him.
He wanted a trial by combat.
He wanted a trial by combat for Tyrion.
Yeah, yeah.
But he's supposed to win.
He's a fighter.
So is the other guy.
But why is he?
But he argues that he played the game the right way.
All Grey Worm wanted to do was take his bitch to Mikonos.
Not going to happen.
That's it.
Not going to happen.
This guy wants a castle.
Can we acknowledge there's a difference in entitlement between Braun and Grey Worm?
You don't get what you don't ask.
Yo, I think he knows what he's.
You're saying that Grey Worm's still got the slave mentality?
He knows what he's doing.
He's not willing to feel like he owns some shit?
No, but you lose your leverage in your negotiation, and he's got a lot of leverage.
Grey Worm didn't have all the leverage when he sent all his boys out to kill the fucking...
No, because he's already swans her.
That's not how it works.
So, Braun, the fact that he's not sworn to anybody, he's got.
He wasn't debted to Daenerys.
The Lannisters aren't debted to Braun.
By the way, they keep bringing up this Golden Company debt.
Have you noticed this?
There was a line that they dedicated to it in this episode.
They're like, and the debt to the gold company.
They don't have the debt to buy them.
Right, but the debt keeps rising, right?
It's like who said it?
No, Not just the interest, but I think it was Tyrion or somebody said it.
Maybe it was Veris, but they said something like, and the debt is skyrocketing.
The debt is going crazy.
I feel like that could play.
But that's all.
Well, she paid off Bravosi.
She paid off the bank, and then...
Bravosi Bank, yeah.
And then they had to then loan her the golden army to fend off Daenerys.
She's all in on the golden army.
She's all in the golden army, but.
She bought that whole shit.
But why would they keep bringing that up?
Like, there's a reason to put that line in.
You don't need that line.
Because whoever's going to inherit the throne has to deal with the debt, right?
Is that the case?
No, hold on, hold on.
Actually, no, that's not the case because the banker, there was a scene, remember, where the banker was like, I have to place a bet on who I think is going to win.
So if his team loses, the other team doesn't have to pay that.
That's fair.
So could there be a situation where someone gets Tyrion?
That's it.
The way Tyrion makes his move is he goes to the Iron Bank.
This is how he redeems himself.
He goes to the Iron Bank and he says, hey, Shorty doesn't have the money to pay you back even if you win.
She doesn't have any people there to make money.
She doesn't have any attachments to anything else.
She might be sitting on that throne.
This is a good one.
It's absolutely worthless because if nobody believes you're the one or everybody's dead, what are you really the queen of?
Right?
You basically invested in someone who is guaranteed not able to pay you back.
Matter of fact, she's ready to have Danny walk in and light all the people on fire that were about to work for free so that debt could get paid back.
Are you sure you want to keep the golden company with her?
That's an excellent theory.
That's how Tyrion redeems his fucking self.
And you know what?
He got a fire lit under his ass because he just fucked up this debate.
Not debate.
He fucked up this negotiation and Masandi got killed.
So he's ready to start cooking.
He realizes there's no way.
This moment is where he realized there's no way he could possibly level with his sister.
Maybe he thought there was a little bit because she was pregnant and he knows how much he loves the kids.
But in this moment, they're like, oh, shit, she's willing to let even the kids die.
There's no way I can negotiate with her.
Time to get back to my smart midget shit.
I'm going out to the Iron Bank and I'm renegotiating this debt.
It's an excellent theory.
Only problem is that Bravos is on the other side of the world where under the impression it would take months for him to get there.
Yeah, but we've seen them travel like I don't think travel is the issue.
And if they really need to.
He sends a Raven?
I don't know.
What about that dragon?
We're going to have a negotiation.
Like, it's got to be something.
That dragon, bro.
We got to drag on.
Iron Bank guy at some point.
We got to drag on.
Matter of fact.
You got one dragon.
Matter of fact, the golden company's there.
There should be a rep. You don't think the golden company is going to have to be there?
That could fulfill the whole Targaryen.
See, here's the problem.
This is cool theory.
I feel like they're not even going to.
I feel like because we're at too long to spell it out.
I'm hesitant to buy into any theories now after last week.
The way they would do it is he goes to Daenerys.
I know somewhere we can go.
I know a conversation we can have.
They just go.
It all happens off screen.
You don't actually see the conversation happen.
When the battle actually starts, Golden Company, instead of going that way, goes this way, fights Cersei, and then you realize after it happened.
So it's a thing that happens, and screen time is like two minutes.
Yeah, no, I'm not worried about the time.
I mean, we've seen them travel.
They went from Winterfield to Kings Landing.
Time isn't the issue.
Dragonstone, you know, so time is an issue.
The issue is there's no issue.
I really think this is.
Why would you not listen?
They said crypt.
They said crypt.
It's legit.
Right?
They said crypt.
They said crypt, and then something popped off in the crypt.
We all predicted it, but something popped off, right?
Now they're doing debt.
They're doing debt.
You don't have to say debt.
You don't have to bring up debt at all.
And we know that the Iron Bank has zero loyalty besides to money.
And listen, they spent a lot of time in previous seasons.
So how does it go through the Iron Bank?
How does Tyrion convince them?
How does Tyrion convince them that Jon Stark and Danny can pay them back?
With what money?
Do they have gold?
What do they have?
They're going to.
I mean, they're the best chance to have to get him paid anything.
But what does he do to say?
There should be some way.
He's got to give them something.
I'm trying to think of anything that's been planted so far.
Does he give him a dragon?
I mean, it's not like having a dragon does anything.
Does he like maybe barter instead, like he turns Slaver's Bay back into Slave Land?
Hold on a minute.
Oh.
What are these wind noises that are happening?
This is a dragon.
And the breaker of chains.
The breaker of chains going to put them chains back on.
And she wants the throne.
And so now she has to go back and get everything she's ever wanted.
Ever wanted.
Everything she ever promised to get that throne.
And it proves that she is just as power hungry as any other sociopath that has sat on that throne their first time.
Political decision.
She makes a political decision.
He goes back and he says you could have your slaves back.
Whoa.
And you know what that's big money for?
Big money.
That's big money.
Big money.
That's enough money to pay back a debt, isn't it?
Rich, rich.
Rich, rich.
Yep.
Yo, I love you guys, and I love this theory.
I just don't want you to get hurt again.
Yo, nah.
I'll tell you what.
I'm already in the body.
You can't take me past that.
I'm Sansa.
I'm end credits.
I'm on the end credits.
I already saw the whole episode.
I'm not going to lie.
I think we just predicted this shit.
I'm not going to lie.
That ending is so much better than whatever ending is actually going to do.
Real talk.
Exactly.
And now I'm so much better than whatever ending is.
And then Tyrion gets to be a fucking hero again.
Not this stupid bitch.
He's been this entire episode.
Yo, hit us up.
Wait a minute.
Smoke is free.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Holdor.
Holdor.
Hold on.
Ready?
Wait for it.
Okay, here we go.
In the conversation between Cersei and Tyrion, does Cersei say that the gold company or the golden company is coming?
Yeah, she's like, well, I was told there would be elephants, remember?
But is Tyrion?
No, Does Tyrion know?
You mean in the sit-down, right when he finds out she's pregnant, he comes back to the council, says that she's going to support them, and then she doesn't.
Yeah.
Yes, they referenced the debt because he used to be.
Tyrion was the master coin.
He was coincident.
So he knows he's the manager.
He was the master of the coin.
He took over for Lil Shakespeare.
So they referenced the debt right there in that scene between the two of them?
Sure.
That's it.
He knows, and this whole time.
And they know that the Lannister Caves don't kill any more gold no more.
Yeah, he knows that.
He knows they've been empty.
Son, this is it.
We just fucking predicted the end of Game of Thrones.
I almost want to start the podcast episode at the end.
Holy shit.
Dude, there is a legit.
Look, look, look.
I'm not saying.
And I know, Jack, you have this.
I can't be honest.
I know.
Listen, because you are invested.
You are more invested than all of us.
Okay.
I see how broken you are by this.
I see it.
I see it.
And it's okay.
I can't fall again.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Tyrion is the first name that you see when this show pops up.
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Right?
That's because he wanted Emmy.
Fair enough.
But he's the first name you see.
He's got more screen time in this show than any other character.
Tyrion's always been, actually, from the beginning, he's like the audience's surrogate character.
Right?
He kind of is.
And I feel like in a way, he's the star.
George R. Martin sees himself through Tyrion.
Now, do you really believe that George R. Martin or HBO or anybody else who's involved in the creative of this show is going to let Tyrion go out like a bitch?
I think they can't trust the two showrunners.
No, no, no.
If there's anything we know about nerds, the little people end up killing it at the end.
The Hobbit.
What is it?
The Lord of the Rings is always the midget.
Those little midgets in the fucking...
The other dragon one.
Yeah, with all the gold.
The Hobbits.
Look, whatever you want to call them.
All I'm saying is the little people end up winning.
And this is the one that lose.
They don't lose?
Never.
They don't lose.
What about Wizard of Oz?
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Oopa Loompas.
Oompa Loompas.
They had it good.
Great life.
You get to eat fucking sweets all day.
Who doesn't want to eat sweets all day?
As four of us stare at a Snickers like three motherfuckers and we haven't had enough of them.
They're floppy now.
Guys, I think we made the.
I think we predicted.
It's a hell of a thing.
It's the best theory.
Whether they do it or not, I feel comfortable saying it's the best theory.
Because it's the best theory, it's not going to happen.
I wrote the best version of this show.
Okay, so look, okay, so let's figure.
We have a couple other bows to tie up, even with this situation.
Okay, let's predict the end of this fucking show right now.
Let's do it right now.
Let's say Ghosty Iron Bank makes that negotiation.
Okay?
We still got Jamie, Braun, Cersei, Danny, and John to figure out.
Right.
And Sansa.
We assume that that golden company thing is taken care of.
What happens with John and Danny?
Bare minimum.
So what I would think would happen was that Danny, I don't know.
I would say someone where it is.
John had a bar.
Kills.
Yeah, you can't forget about Varus.
Who was Danny planted?
Veris had a bar.
Remember Varus's bar?
Every line means something.
What do you say?
Very said he's going to kill.
He wanted to kill Danny.
Oh, no, no, no, no, Varus's bar about John.
What was this?
Remember?
The ones who don't want to lead are the best leaders.
Maybe the one that does not want to lead is the best leader.
A reluctant leader.
Absolutely.
I mean, if that ain't the fucking alley you.
That was, what do you call it?
Gladiator.
Maximus.
Boom.
When in the very beginning was like, you're going to take over and give it back to the people.
And he's like, I don't want it.
And he goes, that's what I'm saying.
That's why it has to be you.
Yo.
I mean, in a weird way, there's a cool prophecy about the United States of America, right?
It's like George Washington could have ran that shit, and he was like, no, you got to give it up.
Right.
Our founding fathers could have taken over you and them, you know?
Like, John is ending up on the throne.
He's ending up on the throne, but then does he do something else to give power to someone?
You know what I mean?
So it's not like a monster.
So traditional monarch.
Let's say he gets on the throne.
What happens with Danny?
She's dead.
She's dead.
Who takes out Danny?
Very.
You think Varus is really going to be the one to take out?
That's too telegraphed, don't you think?
I think everything now is telegraphed.
You got no fade, bro.
You're jaded.
You're really jaded.
I used to buy into every single theory.
Damn, bro.
Let the hate go.
It was last week.
Broken up girls dried this head.
Fucking inspirational quotes.
Jack High here, bro.
That dragon.
We see him in Fashion Nova.
50 Jack over here, bro.
What the fuck?
With your hair gummies.
Dude.
Come on, Jack.
Come back, baby.
Come back to us.
When it happens.
Live in this hypothetical.
Live in the hypothetical.
Remove the heartbreak.
Live in the hypothetical for eight years.
I know, but just give a couple more months.
As I said.
A single tier.
I know.
Okay.
So go with us.
Go with us.
What happens to Danny?
Who takes out Danny?
Who kills Danny?
It can't be Varus.
It's too easy.
It's got to be John.
It's got to be John.
Because John's going to make the tough decisions.
What if it's Sansa?
What if it's Jora, right?
You had a theory about Jorah.
That was the most poetic one.
Well, what if it's Sansa?
What if it's Jamie?
Kingslayer again.
Hold on.
What if it's Sansa?
But Sansa's not going to do it with her hands.
Oh, Santa does it with the knife.
Arya gave her shit.
Or what knife?
Wait.
Stick with the point Dan.
No, that was Dragon Glass.
No, she has the knife.
She broke stabs.
What happened down in the crypt?
She has that knife.
Dragon Glass.
Dragon Glass is a commodity.
Just went hit.
Pointless.
You have no need for Dragon Glass.
Stab style.
It was Bitcoin.
Dragon Glass out of here.
Dragon Glass is Bitcoin.
They were all in on Dragon Glass.
Needed that mine in that shit.
Bro.
That's hilarious, dude.
Okay, okay.
Okay, back where we're saying.
She has that knife.
Sans that knife is made out of Dragon Glass.
It doesn't matter what it's made out of, but it's that one, right?
Yep.
So she has the knife.
She's going to kill someone with this fucking knife, right?
Why else would we give her a knife?
Every knife that's been given has killed.
Has killed.
So you think it's she's taking out Danny?
Well, now, look, you're getting.
I just don't see how she's.
Come back.
You're getting me back.
I want to pull back.
No, no, no, no.
Go in.
Don't be afraid of me.
For the podcast, for the listeners, for the people.
Lean in.
Go.
Sansa, what if Sansa has, I mean, look, she's always been the manipulator, right?
Not the manipulator, but she doesn't do any of the actions herself.
Right.
They kind of have.
She's Littlefinger.
She's kind of little finger.
She's Redfinger.
Ooh.
Ooh.
I don't know.
What if she has someone do it for her?
What if it's Tyrion?
With that knife.
With that knife.
I don't think Kentyrian can do it.
Well, then you lost me.
I'm out.
No, I'm just kidding.
Because Tyrion's already doing the bank thing.
He's already, that's a big one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's not going to do anything physical.
He's a little guy.
He's going to outsmart.
Well, don't forget, through all this, we got to remember, we got Claigambo.
That's next week.
Well, that's like that feels like an ARIA hound tag team.
That's what they've set it up for.
Now that they hit the road together.
The band is back together.
Right?
Also, don't forget, Brianne's coming, going to chase after Jamie for sure.
She's going to show up on the battlefield.
Oh, Jack is back.
Jack is back.
Jack is back.
Oh, so Brian got to kill.
Brianne got to kill Jamie, though, no?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Brianne won't go unless Sansa goes.
So if Santa, the only thing that would bring Brianne is if Sansa going.
So Sansa's going.
I was going to say, yeah, how's Sansa getting close?
And why would Sansa come?
Now we're cooking, ladies and gentlemen.
Now we're cooking.
Why is Sansa go?
What is the infant?
Jack is in.
Jack has had.
So she's going to go because John's going to need her to beat Daenerys, I would say, right?
Chase the bro, kicks him in the chest, says this is Sparta.
End the show.
Come on.
Okay, okay, now we're going.
Now we're going.
Daenerys.
Okay.
Oh, now you got to add to it us.
Now you got to add to it us.
Daenerys watching this show for 12 years.
The unburnt.
Breaker of chains.
Yeah.
What were we talking about?
Okay.
We're all about this.
Throw him down a moon tower.
Okay, so I think that Soda Winterfell.
Moondor.
What does Robin ask?
Where is Regina Devil?
Yo, David.
They're like original.
Did they mention him?
It's veil tonight.
They said the veil would never turn.
Okay, so the veil is probably going to ride with Winterfell.
Yep.
Veil's going to show up.
I think they're going to take out Xerse, Daenerys on the throne, and then the Veil.
Xerce.
Xercei.
Bro, you never hit a Z that hard in your life.
Bro, never y'all.
I always get the one from 300.
Yeah, we know.
We spoke about it.
Do y'all listen at all when we talk about it?
That was like shit.
Son, we were just in a reference for like 15 seconds of how you're doing.
Yeah, but thinking about something about 300.
I know.
He talks about being insecure about my pronunciation.
Whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, go.
So go back.
Yeah.
Say it.
Just fucking say it.
Drop the Z.
So I think the Veil and Winterfell would mobilize to help John beat Daenerys.
And what is the impetus to them coming?
Are they...
So something.
Something gets fucked up.
John realizes, okay.
This is what gets fucked up.
The news comes back that this bitch is crazy and she's about to light everybody up.
Mad Queen.
Mad Queen.
It's Mad Queen.
They realize.
So John probably is going to go, hey, we have got to do something to stop the Mad Queen.
Right.
So I might need the Veil.
I might need whoever's up.
Hey, Wildlings.
Come down.
Holler at your boy.
We need to stop.
Are there going to be three fucking more?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think the Wildlings will come down.
I think that's done.
We just have time.
Wait for it.
What'd they say?
Remember, every word matters.
What'd they say?
The Northmen will ride with you and the Wildlings ride with him.
Yeah, we've known that for a while.
But no, no, but this episode, they said it twice.
He was there making him seem to be you are the man of point who's the king of kings.
He's the king, and Daenerys doesn't have these same allegiances.
They were show, like, that's why she reacted that way.
He has earned all their loyalty.
So something is happening that's bringing them all down.
We're getting everybody into the flow into the capital.
Into the capital.
They come all down.
Whatever the fuck it is, it really doesn't matter.
Jack, you have theories or no?
Doesn't really matter, right?
As long as they're all there.
Okay.
Sansa's there.
She's getting PTSD flashbacks, right?
Yeah, back at King's Landing.
Gendry's there.
He's a lord now.
Okay.
What's her favorite?
Arya, Clegane.
We already know what they're about.
They're going to do.
Something has to happen to get Go.
What if Tyrion's there?
He sends Davos to Bravos.
So Tyrion.
Davos.
Whatever.
Davos, Davos.
That's right.
The spelling's still there.
It's just the pronunciation.
Davos is still in play.
Davos is playing.
Don't you know?
One of my favorite characters.
Davos is still in play.
Not a fighter.
But he's negotiated with them before.
Yeah.
I think he goes there.
I think Tyrion needs to be present in this battle.
There's too much going on for him to just be gone and then show up.
You know what I mean?
He's going to be there.
You got it.
No, you don't.
No, listen, he might be there.
He might not be there.
We're assuming there's going to be a big battle.
Yes, maybe there's going to be a big battle.
I don't even care about it.
There's going to be multiple battles, though.
I think, give me the game.
I want to know the game.
So, Cersei, her whole thing is: I want this bitch to go mad queen.
She could kill everybody.
I don't give a fuck.
She kills everybody because if she's coming in here reckless, we got a chance of taking her down.
If I get rid of the dragon, nobody has a chance of beating me because we got the golden company.
Cersei's game is chaos, kind of.
Cersei's game is just kind of death, but like survive at all costs, maintain the throne, doesn't care about anyone else.
Sure, but make people overstep their boundaries.
Yeah, make them act irrationally, make them act emotionally.
Yeah, that's what the beheading of Missandia was.
Absolutely.
Just driving her to make an emotional decision.
Because the last time, the last time that Shorty was upset, that Danny was upset, she almost flew the dragon right into the ballistas.
Yep.
Yo, everything, everyone's this time.
She's driving that dragon right into the ballistas that are on top of that castle.
And that dragon, I think the dragon goes down next up.
Yeah.
I think.
Oh, here we go.
Dragon goes down next up, right?
She goes mad queen.
Tyrion realizes, oh shit, we don't have a dragon.
We might lose this shit.
I gotta go talk to the gold company.
Yeah.
That's the impetus for talking to the golden company.
Now that they don't have the dragon, oh, now that they don't have the dragon, right?
John and them, they got to go back up to Winterfell.
Do you think they go back or they all stay?
I think they stay they come to them.
Okay, boom.
So they come to them to help.
Oh, shit.
They heard it went down.
Everybody got to come help.
We got to do whatever we can.
Let's get everybody who got maybe we get the wildlings.
Who the fuck knows?
So they're coming down to help.
I don't know why they would help because unless Cersei calls them there, because again, the people in the north are like, we don't even care about the seven kingdoms.
We don't care about Westeros.
We just want the North.
So they don't want that throne.
So the only reason they would come down there is to save John.
Yeah.
Is that it?
Does John get kidnapped?
And then Cersei's like, hey, you want him?
Come get him.
And bend the knee.
I also, I just don't think there's enough time for all this.
Don't worry about time.
Don't worry about time.
Before the dragon dies, it's going to burn.
It has to burn all those people.
Yeah, it's got to show that she's the full mag king.
Yeah.
Mac or mag queen, whatever.
Like, so yeah, she has to go in, burn everything down.
She doesn't kill Cersei.
And that's when they realize that she's whatever.
Then they do kill Cersei next episode.
Or here's the thing.
They kill Cersei next episode, and then the last episode is them killing.
Or Daenerys kills John, and then everyone's like, What fuck that's going?
That would be wild.
That's not happening.
That would be wild.
They're like, yo, John got killed, and then the Wildlings, the fails, Sansa.
They're like, all right, let's get it.
That gave me goosebumps.
Now, why did that allow that?
That would mean where's the red flag, Gendry?
Real quick, real quick.
And then Rifle Air is Gendry.
Right for Gendry.
Or is it Sansa?
I think Sansa.
I think Sansa would have sent it to him.
Sansa just bodies it.
It doesn't matter.
But back to that theory real quick.
It was because Danny kills John, right?
Now you don't even need Tyrion to go to the Golden Company.
So you don't even need Tyrion to go to the bank.
And then, and then think about what Tyrion and Vera said.
They said, is there another, right?
They mentioned John, but like, maybe there's someone else.
When did they say that?
When they were in the room together.
Yeah, is there anybody else?
Is there another?
Yeah.
And then they're like, we already know who you're talking about.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, that was the reference to John.
That was right.
Okay, what were we saying?
Yeah, no.
They're going to kill Cersei, and then John.
Jamie's going to kill Cersei.
Jamie Turner's going to kill Cersei.
Then John's going to kill Daenerys last episode.
But like, Sandra's amazing leadership skills, I think, are being displayed for the reason, right?
When Daenerys was like, we got to go tight, she's like, your men are worn.
You need to rest.
In previous episodes when they were preparing for battle, she was like, yo, why is the arm a little bit?
We said that shit last week.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
She has a good logic.
And they're just trying to show how impulsive Daenerys is.
Yeah, I got a good point.
She's a good hand.
She's a good hand, but she's not a good ruler.
If she ends up being the hand, that means Tyrion's dead.
Or Tyrion just taps out the game.
He's like, yo, I did enough.
I think he's tapping out.
Or Tyrion's son.
Because John's not going to pick Tyrion to be his hand.
John would pick Sansa to be his hand.
Like, Tyrion's Daenerys' hand.
When she dies, John's not going to be like, he doesn't inherit her hand.
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Right.
He's going to be able to.
But you kind of do in the realm, right?
You inherit Varys, you inherit the people.
You pick your own people.
Not really, because Verus has been there for like six different kings.
Yeah, because he finesses everyone.
Yeah, he plays the game.
He sees the outcome before it happens, and then he jumps ship.
And what's happening right now?
He's jumping ship.
He's going to jump on John's ship right now.
Here's the thing, too.
This goes in line with the prophecies coming true.
We've seen King's Landing destroyed by Dragonfire.
Oh, by the way, by the way, we got to address this.
Is Wildfire gone?
Is Wildfire into play?
Does Cersei have some wildfire up her sleeve?
I thought that she burnt it all with her.
Everything was gone with the burning of the game.
That's why they have the ballistas now.
Okay.
So it's all gone.
Yeah.
And Kyburn doesn't have any other magic up his sleeve or any kind of crazy shit.
Nice, but they haven't alluded to it.
Kyburn's kind of the best, too.
Let's keep it real.
Yeah, she got a good team, bro.
She got a good fucking team.
A lot of role players.
People know what they're doing.
She's like the Bulls.
With elite skill sets.
Enjoy how many players.
Jordan Pippen, everybody's set.
Yeah.
Like he was still showing the respect.
Yeah.
What's that?
He was referencing Tyrion.
He's like, my lord.
Like, he was still showing the respect while still trying to tell him to go fuck himself.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The best.
I thought that was really good.
Who?
Kyburn?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you think about the mountain looking like Shredder?
They made him the alpha.
Bigger and creepier.
Yeah.
The eyes are redder.
It looks like that Japanese Wolverine movie.
Do you remember saying that?
The Travis.
Origins one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Origins.
It was like Too Fast, Too Furious of Wolverine.
Yeah.
It was not good.
Bad.
Okay, I think we got some good tears.
Is there anything else before we wrap it up, guys?
Again, don't be surprised if next week we're talking about what could have been and we're disappointed by what happened.
I know.
That dragon head exploding snapped me back into it.
I was thinking, I was like, you, and like I said, I didn't like that first 30 minutes.
And as soon as that dragon head exploded, I was like, all right, I'm back.
That's on.
I'm in.
And then Masani right back in there.
I feel like the only territory they have now, the only play they have, is true fan service.
So like, that's what that scene was.
And whether you like it or not, the first 20 minutes of this last episode was a lot of fan service.
You know, Jamie and Brianne flirting.
They're calling back that game that they played, the drinking game.
I don't know if there's anything deeper than that at this point.
I'm worried about it.
I know.
You have a pessimistic view of it, but I think we got two.
There's two episodes left.
Two left.
Debt, Golden Company, it's going down.
I think that comes into play.
Do we know lengths?
What are the final two episodes?
20.
88.
Hour, 20, hour, 20, yeah.
88.
A lot can be done.
I'll say this, though.
I really enjoyed this episode.
Way better.
Way better.
Yeah, top to bottom.
I really enjoyed it.
We got a couple cool deaths, but the deaths pushed the storyline forward.
It wasn't, you know, a death for no reason.
Everything was calculated.
You got a lot more game than there was in the last episode.
And it did.
You know, when we watched the last episode, we were like, oh, this is, we were disappointed.
It's a traditional hero movie.
The stars are safe.
And then this episode right away, you lose a dragon and you lose Masande.
Absolutely.
But you kind of know that.
Because we're back to the game.
Right.
The politics.
They're better at that.
They're better at writing that stuff.
It's more interesting.
It's what we like watching.
It's why we like watching that Kevin Spacey show on Netflix.
What was it called?
House of Cards.
House of Cards, right?
We like the game, right?
We like these people trying to outsmart each other.
And the reason we like it is because we think we can outsmart the writers.
We go, oh, I know what you're doing.
Like, what we've done this whole episode is just calculate.
I think the showrunner's strength was more writing the political stuff than the fantasy stuff.
I think their strength was just reading a book and translating it.
Sure.
That's fair.
Agreed.
Fair.
And you know what it goes back to?
Like, you said George Martin is like a nerd, and he's like the guy that never got laid.
These guys have been getting laid their whole life.
They don't get it.
The main dude is a stud.
He's like married to Amanda Pete.
He's got like three kids with her.
He doesn't know where to draw from.
Yeah.
That's why everything's working out.
Because in his life, everything has worked out.
How's Amanda Pete?
Real talk.
How's Amanda Pete looking these days?
Good?
She's keeping her.
She's still looking good.
Yeah.
She's held up.
She's kept the gap a little bit, right?
A little bit.
It's cute, though.
Adorable.
But is he the expert on Amanda?
You're like, how's it going?
I'm just saying, I'm just pretty sure.
Which one?
Guys, all right.
Well, that's good.
I think we're cooking.
I think we've got some good stuff.
I'm all in.
Jack is, I think, halfway back.
If this next episode is good, I think we got Jack back all in.
Oh, man.
If it's not, I'm worried about you personally.
If Sullivan doesn't die, I will.
Anyway, this has been another episode of Western Bros.