One of Australia's finest joins us to discuss perhaps the world's most prominent struggle of White nationalists against a hostile occupation regime. We already respected these guys; we like them even more now, and think you will too. Bumper: Land Down Under (Todd Terje Remix) Close: White Australia Song 1910 (DJ Hersant) Please consider Stephen Wells in your charity this month. He is still held in an Australian prison due to his noble refusal to sign away his political rights. Jacob Hersant's Telegram, Twitter, and Gab. And his favorite Australian (for now): P._R._Stephensen Do us a favor please and subscribe to The Final Storm on Odysee. And check out our pals at White Noise Radio and The Fundamental Principle. And the official Full Haus playlist on Spotify. Go forth and multiply. Support us at givesendgo.com/FullHaus Censorship-free Telegram commentary: https://t.me/prowhitefam2 Telegram channel with ALL shows available for easy download: https://t.me/fullhausshows Gab.com/Fullhaus Odysee for special occasion livestreams. RSS: https://feeds.libsyn.com/275732/rss All shows since Zencast deplatforming: https://fullhaus.libsyn.com/ And of course, feel free to drop us a line with anything on your mind to fullhausshow@protonmail.com. We love ya fam, and we'll talk to you in a week…or two!
Our emerging and previously unannounced world tour of interviews continues this week as we pivot from Norway to Australia for a long overdue catch-up with the lads down under and who are arguably the most compelling, uncompromising, and active group of white nationalists on the planet.
Word on the street is that updates from Ireland and Russia are on tap for us next.
Now, you may recognize our special guest tonight from such hit shows as Real White Man Talk on Telegram and Twitter, or from dozens of public protests and demonstrations designed to heighten the contradictions of the Australian government's genocidal policy of flooding the country with alien hordes on one hand, while imposing a return to tradition of penal colony status on its native white majority on the other hand.
So we are honored to welcome the great Jacob Hersant to Full House for the first time this week to see if the juice has been worth the very serious squeeze that the system has felt forced to put upon them.
So, mr producer, let's go.
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It is episode 207, and I am your marginally stronger and faster everyday host, Coach Finstock.
Yet, I'm doing one more push-up every single day, and my 5K times are slowly ticking down into moderately respectable levels.
And we're back with another hour or two of a one-thirds blend of information, motivation, and entertainment too.
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I was thinking that very same thing, Johnny.
He says, hail victory, our people make more white babies.
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And with that, let's get cracking.
First up, with the recent grotesque collapse in Bitcoin prices, Sam's dream of a springtime family vacation to Australia has been dashed on the rocks like an exploratory sailor.
Welcome, big guy.
Oh, we're only at 80.
We're at 80 as we go to tape.
You ain't lying, man.
Yeah.
Why?
Why was doing so good?
It's not Bitcoin specific.
It's tariffs unsettling the system, gold surging signals a lot of uncertainty out there.
Tech stops, stocks, and NVIDIA like blows out their earnings every single quarter and then the stock drops.
There's just a lot of churn out there and people, you know, Bitcoin remains a risky asset, even though it's been stable for a few months.
But My unofficial suggestion is to start looking at that and get greedy because this is not out of the ordinary.
These things happen as a long-term investment.
Absolutely still think it's got plenty, plenty of legs and room to run.
Yeah.
Well, and especially if you look on your app, you know, if you're tracking how you're doing with all that and you can set it at a day, a month, a year, whatever.
Oh, yeah.
You zoom out.
You put it at a year.
It's way, you know, if you're on a long enough timeline, it's going up in a big way.
So yeah, it's just, it's just a little unsettling to see it crater like that.
For sure.
Yep.
Yeah.
Don't invest in it if you can't afford to lose it.
Invest it because you want to grow your money long term.
Yeah.
For sure.
But on a on a brighter note, maybe you'll catch up to me in push-ups.
Yeah.
You know, I think at my best, I could do 50 consecutive push-ups several years ago.
And I'm over 30 now, ticking up, just going until failure.
And yeah, you know, I'm coming out of hibernation, right?
You got to get ready.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
I always tell my wife, you know, I'll be going down there to work out.
And I say, you know, got to get my beach bod.
There he goes.
You know, and then she'll say, she'll laugh and she'll say dad bod instead.
Yeah.
Hammer wanted me to come on the show because he's back to streaming.
And I said, I got to get out there and get some sun and get a number one on the sides.
I can't be showing up looking like a Doey Normie to the Hammer stream.
And I hear that you may be going on that too.
I'm going to be on there March 6th if you want to put it on your calendar.
Good stuff.
All right.
Our special, before our special guest gets too rightfully impatient.
Rolo, welcome back to the show.
Our trusty producer with a, I thought he had on Jewish Bolshevik glasses when I couldn't see him clearly, but he's got a nose strip on.
Oh, okay.
He doesn't want people to know that he's got a breathe right strip.
It's over.
You're toast, bud.
Oh, gosh, Doc.
They found you.
You get punched in the nose.
Welcome back, buddy.
What's up?
Well, you know, just trying to keep all the secrets that, you know, you're willing to tell everyone.
You know, same old, same, old.
Oh, God.
You're happy to be here.
All right.
Welcome back, bud.
Finally, our very patient and special guest coming to you from the future Friday afternoon Australia time.
You may know him as the Antipodean Aryan, the wolf in Helly Hansen clothing, or maybe just that guy who's always talking to you in your Telegram feed.
But all that aside, he is an absolutely unflappable, courageous young man.
I can say young man at my age, the head of the National Socialist Network and someone you absolutely owe a beer if you're ever fortunate enough to meet him.
Jacob Hersant, welcome to Full House, big guy.
Hello.
Thank you for having me.
I'm glad to be on here.
It's our honor.
Thank you.
We were going to have you on election night and you were like, I think I got to go to the courthouse to help a brother who might be getting out on bail.
Or maybe it was you yourself who was supposed to get out on bail that day.
You had to show up for a hearing.
But we appreciate your service for sure.
And, you know, Jacob, we've had on a guy before a few times named Thomas Suwell, some guy who goes by Joe L. Davis too.
So it's great that we're finally getting an authority from your organization, someone with seniority to talk to us.
Yeah, they don't do a lot united.
They're a rank and file.
Yeah, they're like private.
So I'm basically like an admiral.
Very good.
Had to bust some chops there at the top as we do.
All right.
First time on the show, Jacob, your ethnicity, your religion, and fatherhood status, please.
Well, I'm a white Australian of predominantly British Isles heritage, but I also have a little bit of Bavarian German heritage, specifically from a town there called Aschafenberg.
But the vast majority is English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish.
The second question was my father.
I am a father.
I'll start with fatherhood, and then I'll talk about my religion.
Yeah, so I am a father.
I have a son.
He's two years and something months.
That's what I leave that specific information to the mother.
Sure.
She likes keeping track of it.
I just, at this stage, I'm just going to, I'll remember the age.
That's about it.
The year.
After one.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Once they get out of those month tracking period, it doesn't matter.
He's two.
Then he's three.
That's right.
He's two.
And, you know, he'll be three eventually, but there's nothing in between.
And my religion, I wouldn't pin myself down to any specific religion.
I'd say I'd lean more towards paganism and these kind of things, but a lot of it hasn't really been reconstructed to a standard that I'll be willing to kind of lean into the dogma and start doing rituals and all these kind of things.
I'd say that's more or less my worldview is pagan.
I respect Christianity, but I've never been a Christian.
My family, I think the last Christians in my family were my grandparents and they were all Catholics.
But my parents were never religious.
So I wasn't raised Christian or anything like that.
But I wouldn't say, I'd just say I'm definitely someone who believes in God and I'm definitely someone that believes that there's a spiritual basis to everything.
But I don't have a specific denomination or kind of practice.
Fair enough.
Sounds virtually identical to my scenario situation.
I was raised Catholic, but it never really stuck.
When I saw footage of you in your younger years, Jacob, you looked, you know, skinnier, maybe almost a little bit bookish, like a nice college kid.
Now you look like a rugby player who's ready to brawl at a moment's notice.
But can you give us a little bit of a backstory?
I don't know if that's a fair observation or not, just as you've gotten older, but were you just a normie kid who got radicalized by something specific or gradually over time, a little bit about your journey, please?
Well, yeah, I've always been more intellectual.
My temperament is more intellectual than it is kind of physical.
I wasn't really somebody who really enjoyed team sports or things like that.
That's normally a vector that people used to get into into the more physical side of life.
But I did play some team sports, but I only did it because I got told that I should do it if I want to potentially join the military.
That was one path I was thinking of going down.
But I've always been somebody who needs to have my mind nourished.
I need to always be reading or listening to podcasts or doing something.
I always need mental stimulation.
I found it.
One of my first jobs was working at what we call IGA here.
It's like, I think it's officially Independent Grocers, Grocers Association.
We had that in my hometown growing up.
Yeah.
IGA, Super IGA, sure.
But yeah, The esoteric meaning of it is actually indigenous gathering associated, uh, indigenous gathering area here because in uh parts where there are aboriginals, like they'll all go there to get alcohol, obviously, and they'll just be waiting outside.
So, the indigenous gathering area, but I worked there and I found that I would always have to like wear headphones and listen to things.
Like, I can't just sit there and not have my mind thinking about things or learning things or doing all that kind of stuff.
So, I was always intellectual and I was only really brought into uh lifting culture, I guess, lifting weights and boxing and all that through uh nationalism.
Uh, well, I did, I did previously I had gone to the gym, but I didn't really take it as seriously as I should have been uh taking it.
And I was consequently quite skinny, and okay, I'm not crazy.
Yeah, part of that is the fact that I'm tall, but and it's also I get that from my father.
Like, we are a skinny race, uh, that has long limbs, uh, doesn't doesn't put on a lot of uh weight, so I had to eat a lot.
I remember I used to eat like um two chorizo sausages, four muffins, and like four eggs every morning just to try and get myself up to like a decent weight.
So I'm not even able to feed myself.
And a lot of people, a lot of people, uh, can naturally just become fat, but that's never been something I've been able to do.
I have to starve myself to lose weight.
Go ahead, yeah.
Uh, but now, yeah, the fact that I put on the weight now, like it's, it's fine to, I have no problems.
Uh, I don't have to force feed myself anymore.
So, that's that's been a positive uh development.
Another benefit of being a national socialist.
Yeah, I mean, you look like you could rip somebody's arms off when you're growling through some of those statements on Telegram.
Uh, it's a good thing, yeah.
I think that's just mostly because I'm always like annoyed.
I'm always annoyed about this society.
The longer I spend in it, the more it just weighs down on me.
And I'm, I don't know how people just pretend everything's fine and think about, you know, just get a job and have 2.5 kids if you can with somebody that you don't even really like.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know how people, I don't know how people kind of do just sleepwalk through life, but sure, that seems to be the majority right now.
So, was it go ahead, Sam?
Yeah, it seems, it seems like we need that, right?
We need to have that fight, we need to, we need to, to be questing for something or believing and fighting for something.
You know, like there, uh, Adolf Hitler said, the, uh, the world grows great in eternal struggle and only in terms peace does it perish.
So, no matter what, we'll always be fighting, uh, fighting to improve our lot, fighting against enemies, what, whatever it is.
Is that what you're doing in a way?
Yeah, well, it's been good that naturally I've just been restless and agitated about the society being unhappy because most people are just more or less content and they just give themselves to apathy and just thinking that everything will be right.
Like in Australia, we have the saying, she'll be right.
Like most people just think things will get better naturally without their help.
Well, I think that this is a this is maybe an avenue we can use to challenge people is there there is a certain exhilaration and excitement for standing for something important.
And yeah, many people looking from the outside in would say to me, what do you get out of this?
You know, what do you think you're going to do?
What do you think you can change?
Well, that's, yeah, okay, but that's not even the point.
We do this because it is exhilarating and it gives our lives meaning and there is that spiritual basis to it that if you can expose that person that you're having that conversation with, you know, maybe you, that's how you can pull them in is this is exciting to be in.
Yeah, well, I think we do it primarily because we think it's right.
We're on a path of rectitude rather than just ignoring everything and pretending that everything's fine because it's more convenient to pretend that that is the case.
I think it's also a lot of fun.
I think it would be a lot more boring if I just, I don't know, maybe joined a financial firm or something like that.
Well, that's one of the things I say is I say, you know, activism is fun, but maybe some people they think that's not serious enough or doesn't, you know, it's taking it not not taking it too lightly or something.
But no, that's definitely true.
We do this.
What we get out of it is being right.
What we get out of it is making ourselves better.
What we get out of it is establishing a more righteous future for our family and our kin, including generations yet unborn.
Well, that's whose survival we're really fighting for because we're all alive now.
We could probably make it to 80, still alive.
But as every generation goes on and on, the kind of noose is tightening around them.
Things are getting worse and worse.
We don't know what the demographic situation is going to be like.
We don't know how the economics, well, we can predict, obviously, everything's going down.
Everything's getting worse.
But we can't just rest and just say things are going to get better or things are going to be at least decent for them.
That would be selfish.
Yeah.
Well, that's the problem.
Like so many people are just egotistic and they think only of their own kind of horizon.
They think of their birth and then to their death and then everything else ends because their subjective experience ends.
But we know that that's not when things end.
Things never end.
Their children will still be around.
Their grandchildren will still be around.
All of these things will be around.
Not only just their blood, but you think about all of our civilization.
Our language will still be around.
Our conventions, our norms, our architecture, all these things need to be maintained through our effort or they won't be maintained.
The norm is obviously entropy.
Things will go back to non-civilization.
All the sophistication will break down unless we maintain it and pass it on to our future generations.
And Jacob, just to square the circle there from the question, was it immigration, the Browning of Australia that sort of set you off and made you decide to hell with, you know, a normie nine to five and mute stupidity on the sidelines?
Or was it something else?
Apps it just seeing the nature of ABOs and the difference.
I mean, Sam's in his 50s.
I'm in my 40s.
Rolo's in our 30s.
We can all remember a whiter, more sane America.
I assume that your childhood was probably whiter and saner too than Australia is today.
Well, I grew up like when I was entering my teenage years, I was in a very multicultural area.
I went to a school that was very multicultural.
I never ran into Aboriginals because I live in Melbourne and there's not many Aboriginals here in proportion to the white population and other non-whites that have been brought here.
So Abbos never really woke me up or anything like that.
But I always had this consciousness of race, understanding that race was real, that different racial groups acted differently.
But I never really had any ill will towards any other race.
And I never really had a affinity towards my race that was serious.
The thing that really woke me up that gave me a political awakening was coming across nationalist content on the internet.
Well, yeah, I guess that's an argument for what we're doing.
Sure.
Some people like to demoralize regarding the promotion of our worldview on the internet.
I wouldn't say that it's doing everything, but it certainly is doing something and it is productive.
So people shouldn't demoralize on that.
But the two things that I came across on the internet, the first was Adolf Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told, a documentary by Dennis Wise.
And I remember I just watched that in one sitting one night after school.
I came across, I was like, I'm interested in World War II because World War II is awesome.
This is the biggest war of history.
Everyone looks cool in cool uniforms, shooting each other, planes dive bombing.
This is awesome.
I'm going to watch this.
And I thought it was just a normal documentary.
But as we know, it's a different sort of documentary.
It has a different point of view.
So when I watched it, I thought it all just made sense.
It appealed to my kind of sense of fairness that we should listen to both sides and at least understand both sides.
That doesn't mean that in every conflict, each side is just as right.
There can be a right side and there can be a wrong side.
But I at least wanted to hear it out and I did hear it out.
And when I watched the documentary, I thought to myself, well, these Germans, they seem like they were on the right side, actually, contrary to everything else I'd heard.
But there was a lot of things in that documentary that I didn't have an understanding of because it's a basic introduction to our ideas focused on the national socialist movement in Germany.
So when he's talking about, you know, if the Germans had won, we wouldn't have all of these gay rights and homosexual marriage and all these kind of things.
I'd be watching it and I'm like, well, I don't understand why can't we like the gays?
Because nobody had actually challenged the gays to me.
No one had told me why the gays are perverts.
I genuinely didn't understand.
So after that, it's when I came across and after I watched The Greatest Story Ever Told, I started watching other content, you know, going on 4chan poll and these kind of things and listening to the right stuff.
And I was going around, but it's only when I came across Iron March, which was a forum run by Alexander Slavros.
And I started reading their resources that I started to really deepen my ideological understanding of national socialism and basically the state that we are in as a political movement right now.
So that once I'd kind of delved deep into it, I'd been converted and I've just been on the path ever since.
Amen.
And yeah, my views haven't changed.
A lot of people kind of are a bit more neurally plastic, but once I came upon this kind of point of view, nothing has really changed it for me.
It's like that clip of James Mason when he's walking with the reporter after the reporter's been following him.
And he says, why after all this time haven't you given up your Nazi ideals?
And he says, have you got any better ones?
That's basically been me since my ideological awakening in about 2015, 2016.
Well, I'm looking here at this article and the title is White Supremacist, Jacob Herson to Appeal One Month Jail Sentence, so on and so forth.
And I don't know about you, but I'll just speak for myself.
That term doesn't bother me, white supremacist.
Who cares?
That doesn't insult me or, but the way they use it throughout the article is it's the harshest invective they could possibly summon.
But I think we're living at a time where this thing is recoiling on them bad.
And this term white supremacist does not affect the reader the way it would, let's say, 20 years ago or 30 years ago.
Hopefully down there too.
Yeah.
I don't know how it is there, but in internet land where all the Zoomers are, it's like, oh, wait, this guy's a white supremacist?
Cool.
You know, this thing is not working for them the way they want it to.
And anyways, I mean, there's a very nice picture of you and you look like very nice man, probably very well spoken, well-mannered and everything.
I mean, shouldn't our societies be encouraging moderate white nationalists, just like they encourage moderate Islam?
Right.
Shouldn't they, you know, instead of pushing everyone to the most extreme position, shouldn't they accept that there's a white nationalist position that is responsible and makes sense and somebody can very well have that point of view without being evil or whatever?
Are you saying that Jacob is too nice, Sam?
Yeah, yeah, you're saying that the system should be grateful to have a well-spoken, you know, we'll put together men.
No, no, no.
He's not a skinhead with a neck tattoo or anything.
Not that there's anything.
But, you know what I mean?
Here's a nice man that if you saw him in the coffee shop or something, you'd have, you know, pleasant conversation with him or whatever.
You know, shouldn't the system recognize that there's a legitimate, moderate white nationalism that is not about attacking people or, you know, genocide or, you know, mass killing or terrorism or something like that?
I think they're coming to grips.
Go ahead.
It highlights a huge problem because we've been hit over the head time and time again.
Not even just us, like even normies, like, hey, not all gays or yeah, not all Muslims.
It really does show that there is an actual gap.
Yeah, there's a concerted effort to throw us away because every time a Muslim does some kind of like crazy like murder spree.
Yeah.
And they trot on a bunch of good ones to show us all the good stuff.
Yeah.
But yeah, but they never do that.
Yeah.
And all they can get on us is, oh, this person, he said a meanie word.
That's all they have.
And then that literally that is a worse.
Like here, you have two perfect examples of moderates.
And one I think we'd say we mostly agree with and one I'd say we mostly disagree with.
And just because of how embarrassing one gets on the other.
Jared Taylor, I think, is a good example of a moderate white supremacist.
And, you know, and they box him out of everything they can.
I know he was recently met onto Twitter, but is he able to start a Jared Taylor business that's just out and about?
Can he monetize a YouTube channel?
And then the other example is E. Michael Jones, who I say we mostly disagree with.
But still, his rhetoric, they still lump him in with a false white supremacist.
Yeah.
And all he basically does is quote the Bible.
Right.
I think the system, of course, will let Jacob answer that too, but the system is coming to terms with the realization that they can't get away with simply painting us with the broadest brush of they are all violent, knuckle-dragging morons.
Too many of us have come out of the woodwork willingly or unwillingly and shown that, no, we are thoughtful.
We are not prone to unprovoked violence and we have a virtuous vision for the future.
Perhaps yours truly played some small part in that.
At the same time, though, well, it's a little, we'll ask Jacob about that later, the sort of worm shifting in the United States.
He and his comrades, of course, are toiling under a leftist Albanese disease.
I don't know if I just coined that, but I think that they know that their rhetoric of, you know, neo-Nazi, bigot, white supremacist, vile, hateful, you know, violent is not working anymore.
Increasingly, the people don't believe it.
They tried half of that stuff on Trump, of course, and it backfired in their face.
So I think that the worm has started to turn on that for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Now, I'm not saying that Jacob shouldn't get a son and rad tattooed on his forehead.
That would be pretty cool.
But he's doing all right so far.
Steady as she goes.
Jacob, whatever you want to feed off of that.
Well, to go back to the topic of whether or not I consider myself a white supremacist.
In terms of if we just took the word as it were, I would say I'm definitely a white supremacist.
The problem is when they use this word, they use it with their own meaning behind it.
Normally they mean a white supremacist is someone who wants to like lord over other races, maybe wants to be a southern plantation owner with hordes of obsequious slaves to wait.
Sort of like your clan video on the beach.
Yeah, that's their.
Sometimes maybe that would be a nice feature.
Then I think about the present plight of America and I think maybe we shouldn't do that again.
But in terms of do I think that the white race is the supreme race?
Well, I've studied history.
So certainly the idea that whites aren't the best in history is just laughable.
It is just simply laughable.
And you just basically have to have a communist view of everyone is equal because I say so to deny that.
I won't even go too deep into it.
I certainly think that we should be supreme in our lands as well.
We should have total domination of our of the portions of the earth that we that our ancestors conquered and left as as an estate for for their posterity.
We should certainly be supreme in our land.
So I have no problem with the term white supremacists.
It's obviously backfiring on them now because they use the word so much for people who actually aren't really white supremacists in their sense or in my sense either. that once you use it on too many things, it starts to lose meaning.
And that's basically what they do.
They do violence to the very definition of the word equality.
If everyone is equally, I mean, what do you mean by equal?
Equally beautiful, equally smart, equally, equally ingenious, equally fit.
Then what do you mean by equal?
Yeah, what do you mean by equal if you think if you want to say that all those things are equal?
It doesn't even make sense.
Oh, yes, it is equal.
It's a bizarre type of theology that they believe in, even though it's contradicted every single day by their senses.
They just walk out and you can see that every single person, unless they're genetic twins, are different and unequal in different in different ways.
But these people believe it.
Like, yeah, it's insane.
And then these are the same people that will go on about Christians being idiots and things like that, even though Christians believe in a transcendent God.
So at least that's something that isn't constantly contradicted every day you walk out the front door.
Yeah.
Amen.
Two quick things here.
I wanted to first, you'll excuse me if sometimes when Jacob is speaking, I see him as if he's doing one of those videos.
Like, nobody ever told me about the gays.
Like that, that could be a line from one of your videos.
I learned from observing.
And the other thing I wanted to piggyback off of was your, you know, you gave kudos to content creators who were formative in your awakening.
And I totally understand the criticism of podcast race or Twitter race, meme race, or whatever.
But if you're creating some prop, whether you got a viral channel or an account on Twitter or you're a podcaster, it's better than nothing for sure.
It's inadequate.
It's not good enough.
But, you know, I'm almost old enough, been doing this for a decade.
It's like you see the next generation come up and whoever put the greatest story never told together deserves a ton of credit for bringing our guest to the forefront as he has so certainly done.
So don't forget that doing something is better than doing nothing and it's never good enough.
I always feel a little not uncomfortable, but reluctant to probe on personal stuff, especially with a man I haven't met in person before.
But Jacob, you're a father.
You got a, I'm sure, a beautiful young son and loving mother at home.
And yet you have been arrested at least half a dozen times by my count.
You've served time.
You keep running toward the fire.
That is not easy on a family.
And it's got to be a little bit heartbreaking sometimes when you are separated from your son due to system oppression.
Wow.
This is sort of the WN family show.
What's your calculation there when it comes to Junior and Wifey and continuing to fight?
Well, I wouldn't really say I've served time.
I probably served all of three days in prison.
Oh, I thought you did a longer stint.
Okay, good for you.
No, no.
No, but yeah, I'm going to need a medal for that.
I need everyone to make sure that you're not going to be able to earn your spider web.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm sure that looked good.
Tom is rotting away in solitary confinement while Jacob's sunning himself on the Gold Coast, cutting videos.
Yeah, I was bailed.
I got bailed, but Tom wasn't bailed because he had the Channel 9 security guard charges hanging over his head.
And so they basically remanded him and kept him in solitary confinement for seven months.
But I didn't have any charges over my head.
So I got bailed, but I got bailed with ridiculous bail conditions of not being able to associate with anyone in the right wing, basically.
Like not even, it wasn't only NSN. and EAM.
It was like anyone that's considered a right-wing extremist.
And I was given bail conditions of not being able to post on the internet.
And this is supposed, you know, this is supposedly about an armed robbery of a bunch of antifar, but I get bail conditions about posting on the internet.
It just shows what the actual driving force behind this kind of entrapment scheme was.
It was all political.
But yeah, I only served three days in the prison system when I got arrested the first time and then I got released without charge.
And then I got arrested again and then I got charged and they tried to remand me, but a magistrate allowed me to come out on bail.
So, and it wasn't only that, actually.
It wasn't the political things.
I also got a curfew.
I had a bunch of other ones.
Like I had to be in the house at 9 p.m. to 6 a.m.
So yeah, I don't know what, yeah, the curfew was completely irrelevant, but I eventually got that taken down, taken off.
They acquiesced in that regard.
But yeah, in regards to my family, like I haven't away from my family.
I don't work a job.
So I have lots of time to spend with my family.
Like the reality is I probably like, even though I'm a Hitler soldier, I probably spend more time with my family than the average man because they have to go work full time.
So there's my happy, my family is quite happy.
There's been no issues on that kind of front.
My partner supports me fully and my son has no idea what's going on outside of the house.
He's happy.
It's cool that he's going to be able to see your videos when he's old enough.
We're creating a time capsule with this show that maybe or maybe not my kid.
Kids will give a damn about someday down the road.
And Junior will have that to see his old man at work too.
Yeah, I think, well, I think it's going to be a lot of videos by the time he's able to consciously understand them.
I do one a day.
So there'll probably be thousands by the time he's grown up to watch them.
I think he'll probably appreciate some of the deeds more than I think the ideological content, considering he's probably going to be hearing it from me all the time as he's growing up.
He'll probably like the things like, you know, oh, when you almost gave a salute outside of the county court.
I think that's the kind of bit of stuff he'll appreciate.
Yeah, first man in Australia to be arrested for giving the Hitler salute or the Bellamy salute or the Roman salute, which now is taking off oddly in popularity in the United States.
Yeah, did you see what Steve Bannon the other day?
Yeah, Bannon gave a Roman.
Along gave a Roman.
And then they are going to deport the guy who like facetiously gave a Roman.
He was like here on a teaching visa or something.
He's getting the can.
So there we go.
We like that kind of Roman suppression there.
Here's another statement from the article.
Neo-Nazis as white supremacists are an evolving threat.
Like what is the threat?
Yeah, ideological threat?
Sure.
But tell me the white national group that says go out there and kill niggers or whatever.
You know, it's just like isolate that, please, Rillo.
Yeah.
There's literally nobody that that says go out there and commit crimes or hurt people or anything like that.
We're not, we are not a threat in that way.
We are a threat in that our ideas are stronger than the enemy.
Yeah, it's become a meme.
Anybody who promotes violence or crime or crypto scams or whatever, that Fed, Fed, Fed, you know, this classic meme.
You know, FBI agents been in the chat for 100 days and they keep calling me a goober every time I ask for a gun mod or something.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Well, I think, I think a small percentage of it is actually coming from feds.
I think it mostly comes from people who are like immature.
I think it comes from young people who get excited about guns, get excited about militancy and all these things, because that's how teenagers are.
I remember when I was going through high school, I was obsessed with war.
I was obsessed with the Second World War.
I was obsessed with all war.
I was obsessed with killing.
I was obsessed with shooting and all these kind of things.
And that's literally, that's what the teenage male population does.
They get their indoctrination at the school.
Then they go home and they play Call of Duty for five hours.
And the problem is people don't understand that because we live in a police state where we have obviously these police officers really want to start throwing people in jail.
And it's even better if they can do it for a supposedly actual criminal reason, like planning violence, you know, planning to hurt people.
But really, obviously they want to just jail us for our views.
But they go out and they basically, they try to find these teenagers who don't understand how much danger they're in.
And they're talking about things like, you know, I won't even repeat it now because I'll probably get in trouble considering how much of a police state we live in in Australia.
But they're posting all these kind of things.
And then they, you know, it ends up people look at it and they start obviously parroting it and saying that kind of stuff.
And then they cause all kinds of problems.
I don't think it's necessarily all feds, although there will be some of that.
I think it's probably more prevalent in the United States as well in terms of entrapment and these kind of things, considering how many federal agencies you have, all of them trying to do things, whether it be the ATF or the FBI or whoever wants to do that.
And we just need to be conscious that they're trying to attack our political, our political worldview.
They want to attack our ideology.
And this violence stuff, the conflation of violence with our politics is just a vector they're using to try and imprison all of us.
Right.
And it's basically they've given up.
It just shows that they've given up on their ideals, which are supposedly liberal.
Supposedly we're allowed to have a place at the table as long as we're not going to be violent.
We are allowed to talk about our political views.
We're allowed to campaign.
We're supposed to be allowed to do that.
But obviously they've given up on that and they've moved towards something else, which is kind of like a repressive, repressive multiculturalism is basically where we're at.
Yeah, you guys can't have a picnic or a squash game out in the park or whatever without getting system attention now.
I assume we'll get down to brass tacks, I guess.
You guys have done countless awesome demonstrations, destroy pedo freaks, yellow grubs or give us a yellow grub outside the Chinese embassy on your best behavior on Australia Day.
Joel got arrested literally just standing outside of a courthouse talking to a reporter.
Two of your guys, I think Tim Lutz and Jim Won Roberts got arrested for just attending, you know, being near one of your shrines.
I guess do you welcome the oppression at this point because it's showing their hand?
It has some destabilizing and dissuasion effects too, when guys keep getting arrested and can't communicate with each other.
So you're just going to keep at it or are you going to modify going forward, realizing that you have really got under their skin and kicked the hornet's nest?
Well, I wouldn't welcome it.
I don't really like being prevented from being political.
It's quite inconvenient, but I do also recognize that it is destroying their legitimacy.
And it is that is their claim to legitimacy.
They say that they're liberals, they're Democrats, they care about all these things, but obviously they don't.
And every time they arrest us for going to the Shrine of Remembrance to attend the last post, which is just like a bugle call that they do on Sundays at 4 p.m.
They just show themselves for what they are, obviously.
And it's not pleasant to have to deal with it.
Like I've my criminal record is longer than most lumpin criminals, even though it's all related to politics.
Like Bill, like I'm a bill poster criminal.
I'm a Nazi salute criminal.
The only one that is like, I guess what you would call regular violence is my conviction of violent disorder.
But even that, those violent disorder charges were only brought in in response to the UPF, which is the United Patriot Fronts, the United Patriot Front rallies where leftists, so antifar and like regular kind of anti-Islam patriots were having fistfights with like masks on.
So obviously, for some reason, they didn't think like charges of assault and all these kind of things were good enough, even though obviously we've been having problems with violence since before civilization.
Like obviously there's a huge there's huge jurisprudence in regards to how violence is dealt with.
But they had to bring in these new charges called violent disorder, where you can be convicted even of violent disorder, even if you're not violent.
If you're part of a group of six people or more and people commit violence while you're part of that group, you can be convicted of violent, violent disorder.
So it's all this kind of like, well, it's an it's and it's only really used.
It was brought in for politics, but it's it's just all this kind of, I can't think of the word now, but basically you're you're convicted by virtue of, you know, yeah, guild by association, basically.
You're part of the wrong group.
Someone like wigs out and attacks someone or defends themselves in the case of what was happening.
And then you're convicted of being a violent.
And then you have the media calling me a thug.
There's like a picture of me in a in a suit and it says neo-Nazi thug Jacob Herson.
Based on the fact that I basically in the police brief, it doesn't even say that I was violent.
Like basically that I was there.
And obviously the police brief is a fantastic bit of literature.
It has nothing to do with what actually happened on the day.
It was just a police officer's interesting narrative based on lies from Antifa.
But even based on those lies, it didn't even say I was violent.
Only that I was there when violence was committed.
But anyway, I've gone on a bit of a digression there.
What are we talking about?
We're talking about demos.
And I've done some activism and demonstrations in the past.
It's been several years, to be honest.
I know it feels like a million bucks at the time.
It drives recruitment.
It's great for propaganda because the enemy can't help but pick up on it at least in the media.
And then, of course, the bill comes due later on.
But how about the effect?
Do you think it is truly effective with the public at large?
Some young men are going to see that and want to join or be radicalized or understand the picture better.
Lefties are going to hate you and call you Hitler and want to punch you in the face.
The government wants to shut you up.
How about the white masses in Australia?
What do you honestly think some of those prominent demos have as an impact on them?
Well, I think demonstrations are really important based on what they're actually called.
It's to demonstrate that there actually are people with our views.
If you can't see it before you, if it's not made concrete, then people can kind of just palm it off and say, oh, it's a few scattered people on the internet.
This is not a serious political force.
People aren't even really willing to go out and be seen in public demonstrating for that point of view.
So I think that's a very important thing.
Obviously, another benefit of it is the fact that when you do such a radical demonstration about some sort of topic, media picks up on it.
And they don't only do that to obviously benefit us.
Part of it is demonization.
Part of it is kind of lobbying to try and get us arrested for our politics, try to get new laws put through, try to basically ask the police to go after us, politicians to go after us and all these kind of things.
A lot of time they're bringing out news articles now trying to stop us being able to fundraise, all of these kind of things.
So part of it is pressure against us.
But it's also got the benefit that our message is being promoted out there to heaps of people, lots of people, millions of people, and the elites as well, because the way that any society launders kind of information to the elites is through the mainstream media.
You know, all these judges, all these people, all these kind of heads of corporations, police, you know, the top of police, the parliamentarians and all these kind of people, all these elites read the newspapers because they know this is the information that basically the B system wants us to be consuming.
So when you get it out there, basically everybody comes to know about your group and the ideals for which your group are standing.
And right now, we're in a very strange position where basically every political conversation in Australia right now is being framed around us.
Like when libertarians are talking about their stuff, maybe they'll talk about, oh, we want to maybe restrict immigration a little bit so people can afford housing.
They'll talk about that.
But we're not as extreme as the NSN.
And everyone mentions us in all these political conversations now because of how successful our campaigns of demonstrations demonstrating have been.
So I think it's definitely something that has been proven to be successful here.
I don't think people should be creating cargo cults and expecting to get the same results necessarily in other countries.
But it's something that you should definitely consider whether or not.
demonstrating is a good way to do things.
There are countries where it's probably a lot more dangerous to demonstrate.
Maybe the police are going to come down and arrest you all for doing it, similar to what they're doing now.
But we managed to get a lot of demonstrations out before they started acting like that.
Or the media are going to not report on you.
They're going to try to basically starve you of any oxygen in regards to publicity to the point where maybe demonstrating actually isn't worth the risk.
So it's something that really needs to be considered by intelligent leadership.
Yeah.
Well, I just like to underscore that the thing about having a public, whether you want to call demonstration or just a public event of any kind, it's proving we can do it, which is very important.
And when we are able to do these things, we show again and again, we are the cool guys.
We are the guys that chicks want, you know, stuff like that.
That's the importance of being seen out in public.
And tons of guys who have said Charlottesville was what woke them up, or I didn't know that there were so many of our guys out there despite the cost.
I compared, what was it, like the inauguration of Trump and the parties around that to Charlottesville.
It was like Woodstock and then Altamont, you know, when the wheel started to fall off here, Altamont was the Rolling Stones and Hell's Angels concert that sort of ended that whole era.
But the system has always tried to show us as not the cool guys, you know, but now the time on the calendar is just such that we always look good, you know, and that's just nature.
It's just finally the time has outstripped their efforts, if you will.
Yeah.
Somewhat related to that, Sam, I was wondering, Jacob, do Australian normies all call you guys feds?
Do you get the Patriot Front insane, maddening treatment that no matter what you do, you can be arrested, you could be sued, locked up, attacked by the government, and they still call you feds?
We don't get called feds nearly as much as Patriot Front in America.
I think part of that is the fact that American right-wing culture has always been individualistic and very distrusting of government.
And, you know, I remember I listened to lectures by Revel OP Oliver, and he's talking about the politics in the 1960s, and he'll be complaining about the exact same thing.
They'll say, obviously, the leftists will make fun of us for thinking that there's a Fed under the bed, but he would say that, no, the space underneath the bed is reserved for well-meaning patriots hiding under there, looking if there's anyone in the room.
And that has really been the case in America.
Like there's just so much paranoia.
And I get it.
Well, they said it about Rockwell back in the day.
Rockwell was accused of that very thing.
Yes.
And it's not like these are irrational fears.
Like there's obviously feds out there that are trying to disrupt what we're doing, disrupt and destroy organizations.
So, but we just don't have that culture of paranoia here.
And the culture is basically imported from the online right in America here.
So there are people that will call me a Fed or Tom a Fed.
You know, like if I'm a Fed, I really need to renegotiate my contract because they stop hammering me.
I'm like, I'm over it.
And, you know, Tom should reorganize.
So renegotiate his contract because seven months in solitary confinement just isn't really, that's not good working conditions.
And that's just not fair.
So yeah, it really, it's very strange.
Like we can joke about it, but there is something seriously wrong with people that have that paranoid view.
And they're worse than useless because anything like any kind of resistance to the government and then sacrifice for the government, it doesn't matter.
You know, you're a Fed.
And it's basically you're disprivileging actual resistance because anyone that's actually doing anything is considered the enemy.
You're considered the enemy.
It's counterproductive.
There's actually no way to win in the mind of a Fed jacketer.
Yeah, if we did begin winning, well, that's only because the feds are letting us win.
So there's actually no way to win.
It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy of failure.
And that's basically what conservatism is.
It's just failure.
I've wanted to create a macro on Twitter to respond.
You know, all the people who said, ha ha, when Biden's out of office and Kash Patel is running the FBI, then we'll see the end of Patriot Front.
Okay, they're still out there.
Has that changed your mind?
Are you capable, competent to take in new information and reevaluate your worldview?
No, it's the most conditioned, Pavlovian, uncritical thinking, sheep herd mentality that I've ever seen.
It drives me up a wall.
By the way, I love your guys' positioning on the dreaded word optics.
You go, I think it's fair to say, you go harder than Patriot Front on the rhetoric and just going all out on it, but you are more relatable than some of, I won't even name guys who go further or harder with the full swastika flags and the outfits and stuff.
But you know what I mean?
For somebody who wants to see a strong group of white men uncompromising with their ideology and their beliefs and not sticking to somewhat stafer slogans.
That's not a get a knock on PF that's a compliment to you.
This is a one out of totally go ahead, Sam.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I think you got to, each person's got to find their level that they personally feel comfortable.
You know what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
That's my personal.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, my point of view is, you know, people are not coming over to our side to become Boy Scouts.
Right.
So, you know, like the skinheads and stuff like that, I think a lot of people think that's cool.
And if you think that's cool, then you should do that, you know, but maybe you're, you're like a, you just have a different vibe, so to speak.
And maybe, you know, like you say, PF, PF particularly, I've, I found interesting simply because I, so much of my early life, I, I was so very anti-American, you know, but, but here they feature the American flag and patriotic themes.
And I think there's something, something good and refreshing about that too.
Like we need all those views.
We need all those representations.
Amen.
Totally agree.
To each his own, let a thousand flowers bloom.
I think that's a Maoism, something like that.
Pardon the Maoism.
Jacob, this one's totally out of left field.
I was reacquainting myself with Australian geography, which, to be honest, of all world geography, I'm pretty woefully lacking on this one.
And the thought occurred to me: have you guys ever considered or seriously talked about just decamping to Tasmania and making that your Taiwan to the People's Republic of Australia?
Kind of joking, but it looks like a nice big, beautiful island there where you might get a little bit more peace of mind and quiet.
Maybe Taiwan is not exactly the best analog.
No, I get it.
I understand.
I think that's really kind of the mindset of retreat because we already had a white island and it was called Australia.
I don't think we need to concede.
I don't think we need to concede by all of us going to Tasmania.
Tasmania is not one of the, it's like one of the smallest states in Australia in terms of its influence.
I think for people who are willing to struggle and really willing to be political, the places to be are the major cities in Australia, like Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth.
Obviously, I wouldn't even consider any of the Tasmanian cities, even the biggest ones there, as being big cities.
I guess you do have a sea border, which is a benefit.
But the problem is we're not talking about kinetic warfare.
We're not talking about the enemy needing to form a bridgehead, get their navy here, land on the beaches, and we can fight them on the beaches.
The problem is the invasion is being allowed by the government.
So it's actually a political fight.
It doesn't matter.
A 747 can make its way to Melbourne or it can make its way to Tasmania.
It doesn't matter.
And the fact is, these non-whites aren't coming to the West because of magic dirt or anything like that.
They're coming for proximity to white people.
They want to live amongst white people.
So if the rest of Australia comes and Browns and becomes terrible, they're going to come to Tasmania.
They want to come to Tasmania.
And there are these non-whites in Tasmania.
Like the idea that Tasmania is still white, it's whiter, but it's not white.
There's practically nowhere on earth right now that is white.
There's only, you know, just the level of infiltration is smaller.
Maybe in Eastern Europe or in Iceland or in some parts of America and some parts of Australia and Europe, you know, there's only a few scouts there.
But the reality is they're coming for everywhere.
They want to live with white people.
No, you're absolutely right.
But Tom's going to hear about coaches planned Tasmania and totally embrace it.
You're going to have egg on your face.
Sorry, Jacob.
Well, the thing is, I'm an admiral, you know.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
I'm like, you know, I'm supreme leader chairman of the greater Australian realm.
And whatever I say goes.
Shut it down.
Yeah, shut up, Stephen.
Yeah, amen.
You've already been really generous with your time.
We're at an hour.
I got a few more questions if you're game, big guy.
You good on time?
Amen.
All right.
So I did put out relatively last minute on Telegram questions from the audience.
And I'm kind of glad that I didn't put it out yesterday because inevitably someone will start arguing about Trump or the moon or something in the comment zone.
We love to feast upon each other.
But a good friend messaged me privately and said, hey, coach, no homo, but I am interested in Jacob's fitness or workout or lifting routine.
Briefly, if you can, what kind of stuff do you do to stay in good shape, buddy?
Right now, I haven't actually been doing a lot other than I'll go to Saturdays trainings and do like what everyone else does, which is like boxing and we do push-ups, deadlifts, and all those kind of things.
Right now, I've just been doing a daily habit of like doing lots of push-ups and lots of pull-ups and going for the long run.
So I've just been trying to build up a base of that.
Recently, for about a year, I wasn't in a good living situation.
I was actually living between my parents and my partner's parents.
So it was actually very difficult to build up any kind of habit.
And obviously I was focusing on my videos and things.
So unfortunately, my fitness fell to the kind of wayside.
But now I've actually moved into a new house and I'm living there permanently, obviously, every day.
So I have just been, yeah, building up that base of just daily, a daily habit of push-ups, pull-ups and runs and going to training as well.
But I'm very, very busy right now.
So I haven't been going to like weekly trainings.
Like most of our membership goes to weekly trainings, learns there, you know, doing boxing and all that kind of stuff.
I just don't have time right now.
Amen.
Now we know why you wear the Helly Hansen jackets to cover up.
You know, you're not quite in true brawling shape yet.
But amen on the running push-ups and pull-ups, man, after my own heart.
All right.
Johnny B says, hail Jacob in the NSN.
I'd like to know how he feels personally about making that shift from metapolitics into the political fray.
Seems like Australian occupied government is forcing the boys into legitimate political action sooner than they may prefer.
Excited to see them put candidates forward and how he feels about the state of white nationalism in the USA.
So politics in Australia versus how you may personally view how we're doing over here.
Well, yeah, it looks like we're going to have to set up some sort of party to basically guarantee our political rights of expression, assembly, and association because magistrates, police officers basically think that right now, because we're not a parliamentary political party, they can just say to the court, no, this isn't a political group.
This is a criminal group, obviously.
That's why they're here in the court.
They're criminals.
You know, this is a criminal organization dedicated to fail to cease lawyer.
We need to disrupt this criminal group.
This is basically just the embarrassing state of our justice system right now.
Whether or not we set up a party, will this lawfare stop?
Probably not.
May it help it a little bit?
I hope so.
I think we'll set up a party.
I don't think we're going to throw our whole lot in with a party.
It's just going to be one of the many things that we do.
I don't think we want to get trapped in a party and focus all of our things, all of our kind of efforts and our resources on electioneering.
I think getting the legal protections is one of the important things.
And I think if we were to electioneer, I don't think we should be focused on winning 50% of the vote or 51% of the vote so that we can make the decisions in the country.
I think that we should just try our best to become the tiebreakers in the system, where you have a case where liberal and labor need to, which are the red and the blue parties here in Australia, they need to cooperate with a third party in order to pass legislation.
If we can get a bunch of MPs and a bunch of senators, then we can be the tiebreaker.
And by virtue of that, we can exert more influence than would otherwise be expected by such a small party.
I think that's a realistic goal.
That can be achieved.
And we need to think realistically.
And we've got to think about where we can get most of our value, where the money is, as it were, where the most value can be achieved for the least amount of effort.
Because if we just throw, I don't think with the current state of demographics, with how many plane loads of human trash the government is bringing in daily, we're going to get to a point where we're going to be able to get 51% of the vote based on the fact that we have traitors.
A lot of whites now are traitors.
So it's not like we're going to get 100% of the white vote.
But also less of the citizenry are actually white people.
Yep.
What do you think about the, well, here, let's just, well, we'll do this right now because it was one of my questions, actually.
I was going to give you a hypothetical of this white, iconoclastic, charismatic populist leader takes power in Australia.
He sort of whips the right into line and he's taken a sledgehammer to some of the things on the left.
You can see where I'm going with that.
He's making things better.
And I personally actually have been shocked at how hard Trump has gone out of the gate.
And I've been more willing to give him credit.
The first term was trash and I had no hope for the second term.
And I'm reevaluating my position daily based on the news that comes out.
That's what we're dealing with here.
You know, there's guys that say, you're all fools.
You fell for it again.
The rug pull is coming.
And speaking personally, I'm saying this is a different beast than it was the first time.
But say Australia got a really charismatic guy who was actually deporting people, talking about cutting immigration or getting, you know, doing away with government censorship of groups like you.
Yeah, would you embrace him?
I don't think it's an unfair hypothetical, but it's still a hypothetical.
It's what we're dealing with here is sort of uncharted territory where a lot of the old rules have gotten thrown out.
We're so used to having useless, cowardly Zionist Republicans.
Of course, Trump is a Zionist, or total open borders, anti-white leftist brown demagogues who literally want us to die.
And we're not in those waters anymore.
You can either take that as commentary on America or how you would possibly handle that in Australia with apologies for the long wind up there.
Well, if we were to support an Australian Trump, he would have to be basically actually solving the problem systematically.
The problem is, if we were to have an Australian Trump, yes, you could start deporting people.
Yes, you could make the system more impartial.
You could bring it back to liberalism and stop basically trying to jail us because we were breathing while being Nazis on the street.
That's fine.
If they're doing that, I guess we don't have to be kind of like constantly negative and constantly just hating everything, saying like, oh, you're not doing enough and all these kind of things.
But that view is right.
Like we can optically not say, you know, just be constantly pessimistic and attack people that are at least doing something.
But at the same time, ideological purity to saying, well, frankly, this Australian Trump isn't doing what will save our race and our civilization.
He may be going in a direction that's better, but that's not going to be enough.
And we have to be careful to not allow.
allow these kind of people who are going to make some concessions to our kind of point of view.
We can't let them recuperate us and de-radicalize us and push us back to being not doing anything, being inactive.
That's not something that we have the luxury of doing.
We can't just go back to apolitical servitude.
Because the reality is, like, you're in this society, everyone's a slave in this society unless you're part of the ruling class.
You're a slave.
Like, if we have an Australian Trump, there's no way that he's getting rid of the mortgage system.
There's no way he's getting rid of what's happening with housing.
He's not getting rid of all of these problems of it's not even immigration.
The problem isn't immigration.
The fact is that there's aliens in our society in the first place and miscegenation is permitted.
And these other races are allowed to proliferate at the expense of us.
That's the problem.
I think that we need to have the mindset of having election independence.
Like it doesn't really matter if the blue party or the red party is in.
We can note it.
We can say, okay, this thing is better.
They're doing something good.
And we can say that.
But at the same time, the problems haven't been solved.
So we need to still be working.
We still need to be building up our strength through organization.
We want to be started.
We want to build up our wealth.
We want to build up the morale of the movement.
We want to make sure that people are still willing to fight.
So obviously spiritual and material strength.
We want to increase our manpower.
We want to be recruiting.
We want to be building understanding in ourselves and proflytizing, bringing people to our point of view.
All of these things are actually independent of who's in the White House or who's in the Australian parliament.
We can do all of these things every day.
So to me, I think you should just be accurate about it.
You should look and you should say, hey, when the January 6thers were all pardoned, hey, that's a good thing.
But at the same time, I'm still a national socialist.
At the same time, I'm still a revolutionary.
And Trump hasn't done enough.
He hasn't brought forth the white revolution.
So I'm still going to be fighting for it.
Here, here.
Yes.
Thank you for this.
That is good.
I can compliment you.
Now we want this.
Now do Israel.
Let's get Doge to audit the Holocaust numbers.
That's the most important job that could possibly be out there.
Go ahead, Sam.
In a time where, at least in our country, where there does seem to be a shift to the right of the common man, I'll just put it that way for sure.
That gives us, to me, that gives us an opportunity to, as we say, amplify, agree and amplify, right?
So we can take some good thing and praise it and therefore show our position, right?
And build on it and say, but we need to do more.
That's a good start.
But this, you know, there's always a good opportunity.
When Obama was president, you know, that was also a good opportunity to show things, but there just feels like there's a little momentum that we can build on at this time.
Yeah, he's breaking things that were previously shippable and monoliths that could not be touched.
Yeah, and it's, it's, we, we know all the shortcomings of Trump, and we are not deluded, but we have this phrase, the Overton window is shifted right.
And, and that is, that is certainly true.
And, and even in Trump's first term, that the occasion of that made certain conversations possible that were not possible before.
And the same is true today, even more so.
So, I think we can admit that, yes, Trump is not a white nationalist or anything like that, but we can use the moment to build on it.
Absolutely.
Total agreement.
You know, when I see everything that I've seen is that they are busting their ass to deport illegals, including illegals who did do nothing aside from being illegal, they are putting the heat on deportations.
That is inadequate if you don't go after legal immigration and the DACA babies and all that stuff.
It's a good start.
Just like making propaganda.
Good start.
Now do more.
Now demand more.
That's not good enough.
Blood in the water.
Be sharks and demanding more chum.
Ryan Sneedful got greedy and asked three questions, but he says he's a big fan.
So I got to ask one of them.
The most interesting one to me is what advantages do you guys have in Australia compared to us in the United States or Europe?
I'd imagine that you're worse positioned, yet you seem to be making the most strides.
30 million people or just under 30 million people.
You got a massive territory with not a big population, somewhat similar to Canada.
But go ahead, big guy.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Well, what advantages do we have?
It's hard to say.
I don't think we necessarily have many material advantages here in Australia compared to the United States.
Maybe just the fact that we have a less individualistic culture here.
Anytime I have run into Americans here in Australia, I find that they're more individualistic, not even necessarily in a bad way.
They just have more of a sense of rugged individualism, of they see themselves as being responsible in that kind of way.
They don't really have a view of collectivizing as much as Australians do.
That is probably to our benefit.
But at the same time, all of these kind of things, it's hard to actually quantify.
It's hard to quantify these differences in Australian and American culture.
I think part of it is the fact that America is so big with such a big population that once you have these kind of institutions like the FBI and all these kind of things, that's a lot.
That's a lot of power and that's a lot of experience that these giant institutions have in suppressing movements and all these kind of things.
So obviously we have a smaller population here.
So we have a smaller population.
So they don't have as much to police.
But at the same time, these big institutions, as they get bigger, they have more experience.
People rise up to the top that are more experienced.
You kind of have that quality of how much there actually is and that can rise to the top.
Now, obviously, when I say the top, I'm talking about elites.
I'm not talking about these people being honorable.
They're actually the worst imaginable.
But when they get up there, they're quite competent in their villainy.
You didn't take the softball and just say, we're braver, pussy.
We've got bigger balls.
you know, we're going harder, even though we don't have any material advantages, which there's an element of truth.
It's a hard question.
It's something that I'd have to sit down and actually really consider.
It's definitely a very profound question.
And that was just kind of like a that was just that's the first thing that came to my mind.
It's hard.
I mean, I've seen the movie Mad Max.
I mean, is that not Australia?
Not really.
That's most of Australia isn't like that in terms of the population.
We just live in regular cities.
Now, when you say most of it, it's not like that.
Does that imply that some of it is like Mad Max?
The hidden corner.
Yeah.
It's like they're Jurassic.
Yeah, some of it is.
Like you go out into the wild.
You're in the outback.
It is the jungle.
Not a literal jungle, but it's crazy.
You know, you have ABOs just sniffing petrol on the, and they're sleeping on the roads as well.
Like this is just insanity that's, you know, what's going on out there.
Because of homogenization, the fact is people that live in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Adelaide, it's no different than living in an American city in terms of how it looks, more or less the lifestyles that people are living.
The only thing that's different is kind of national temperament and culture is different.
But in terms of level of civilization, way of life and all of those kind of things in a material sense, it's more or less the same here.
It's funny because in my mind, it's not that way anymore, but most American impressions of Australia, if they think about it at all, is of course it was a penal colony.
They're descended from prisoners that English dumped, that the English dumped down there.
Then you had Paul Hogan and Crocodile Dundee in the 80s, the crocodile hunter, of course, glorious man.
Yeah.
It's just funny to hear America.
We know Americans are individualistic, but I always thought of Australia as this, you know, rugged, rough around the edges, AC, DC, give it to them hard, no nonsense, BS.
They had the white Australia policy.
And now, you know, especially during COVID and everything, it was nanny state leftist, open borders garbage.
Can we, did the Jews really just worm tongue your entire country?
Is it that simple?
Obviously, whites have a weakness of the pathological altruism or being susceptible to nice, shiny things.
What went wrong in Australia?
Sorry, that's a big one.
Well, I think part of it is kind of a misconception.
A lot of people, you know, they see these kind of tough as nail laricans, you know, these country boys and all those kind of things that kind of front as being very, very tough people.
But the problem is like looking tough and being tough are two very, very different things.
And you notice that there'll be people that like spend all their time doing MMA and they'll become perfect at BJJ.
And, you know, they're tough.
They're very strong when they're in an octagon.
But then, you know, you threaten to take their job away because they have the wrong views and they'll literally be crying considering blowing out their brains because they might lose the house or something like that.
You know, the reality is there's lots of people that we kind of look superficially tough, but they're not really tough.
And yeah, there may be people wearing their cubras and they're like, yeah, mate, drinking beers.
You know, they'll have their dirt bikes.
Maybe they'll go do some like crazy evil connival stunt jump.
But then you talk to them about the fact that society is going off a cliff and they'll literally be terrified that you're saying the wrong ideas to them.
And this has just shown how many people were, you know, oh, I love Ned Kelly.
You know, I would have been part of the Kelly gang.
I would have derailed that big pole train.
I would have been shooting police officers back in the day.
And then COVID happens and there's just plastic revolutionaries that are like, well, you know, the problem is, mate, I'll lose my house if I don't have a job.
So just shoot the, shoot it straight into my arm.
Just inject it into me.
Okay.
And this is the reality.
Like these people are plastic revolutionaries.
Like they front as revolutionaries, but they bend as soon as actual real force is brought to them.
You know, because all of these kind of like these, these tough things, like let's go back to MMA fighters.
You know, fundamentally, these people are going to an air-conditioned gym.
They're going and boxing and they go, they train in this kind of environment.
They have all this stuff around them that actually makes it easy.
They live in a functional society.
And then when that breaks, they actually aren't tough in terms of their temperament and they're not resilient in that way that they just break when they no longer have this civilization, you know, this kind of civilized barbarism.
And that's just the problem.
Like none of these people are really tough when it comes to where it counts, at least politically.
Sad but true.
Yeah, of course, we had the recent example of the Arkansas country boy MMA fighter who stuck his foot in it by complimenting Adolf Hitler and then rapidly backtracked virtually 24 hours later.
Yeah, never get over people with tons of money or even not tons of money, just being so willing to cuck on things that they said just 24 hours ago to save their hide instead of just being honorable and telling the truth.
Yeah, well, they're super brave and they're willing to be in the octagon taking punches and kicks and getting choked out.
But as soon as a Jew calls them up on the phone, they're literally terrified.
They're shaking.
They're shaking with fear.
It's pathetic.
And it's like, yeah, that's a problem with a lot of things.
Like another one is the military.
People that join the military and because they have this massive institution to basically discipline them and obviously make them fit, they learn about warfare, shooting guns and all these kind of things.
If they get out of the military and they no longer have that institution, that doesn't mean they're necessarily tough or a fighter or any of these kind of things.
I'm not saying that they aren't.
There's probably a lot more fighters and tough people in the military based on the fact that that's what it's about.
And when they leave, they maintain that.
But the problem is the military is so watered down with transgenders, women, all of the fucking, excuse my language, all of these people.
Not bad.
Just run.
Come on.
Leave it in, Rolo.
Just cut it out like it here.
No, it's good.
Yeah, just cut it out.
Paul Splice and Sam saying, go kill all the niggers or whatever.
Something a little bit more polite, like talking about genocide.
But all of these people that have been allowed into the military and like, well, you know, this is the situation.
You'd have these transgenders in the military thinking that they're more of a fighter than our activists.
It's just insanity.
It's an inverted society.
But anyway, I digress.
That's all right.
We're getting greedy here, big guy.
We're almost at the, we're in the home stretch.
Who's your favorite Australian of all time?
That's such a hard question.
It's not even something I've really considered.
It's something I'd have to think about.
My favorite Australian of all time.
Um like, if I got, if I yeah, I i'd say probably Damn for the United States.
Um, I might have to go with Charles Lindberg just off the top of my head, because he's, you know full, full spectrum hero in real life and then into politics trying to keep us out of World War Ii.
But, you know, come back some other time and answer it, or whoever comes to your mind first, shoot from the hip.
Yeah, it's something.
It's something that I really have to consider, because I don't um, i'm very holistic in my thinking and I don't really value different uh, different like spheres of human activity more than other ones like so, I don't know if I would pick a political person.
If i'd pick an artist, I don't know I guess uh, you know, if I were to, it's up there would be Percy Stevenson who uh, founded basically the Australia First Movement and and what we call Australian National Socialism.
Um, he was definitely a great guy.
Um, a literary guy as well.
Yeah, wrote a lot of um, a lot of books which I, which I like as well um, insofar as I um, I tend to, I love language um, I love literature, I love poetry and all these kind of things.
So he'd be up there, but I wouldn't say definitively that he's my favorite Australian, it's.
It's another question that i'd have to like before.
Before these like profound questions are asked, i'd have to have time to really ruminate.
I, I really wasn't trying to catch you there, big guy.
I mean, you can yeah, you can get yourself some wiggle room, you know I, I understand after the interview you'll be like oh, this was, this was the perfect guy.
There's no right answer now.
This one is deliberately a blind side because it's sort of the first thing that comes to your mind.
But what's your favorite childhood memory doesn't have to be profound just, you know, an image or a moment or a time that comes to mind that brings you joy.
Oh lord, this is.
This is another one I like to think of.
Any childhood uh memory.
Now that I can that, I can think of, um, you're such a political soldier you've.
You've blocked out your, your innocent youth.
No, I did.
I did have a good um, a good childhood.
But if it's all just blending into one thing right now, I can't even think of what a.
Let me think this.
This interview has gone off the rails.
We're gonna have to trash this one rollo.
This can't go out over.
Yeah um, I literally can't even think of anything, I don't know.
Probably, just honestly, probably just spending time with um, with my father um, but like I can't think of any.
I think that's a sign of a good childhood man like that you can't even remember one thing because everything was just good yeah absolutely, and that's that's another thing.
They, you know, they think that we're all broken people or that we had some significant trauma growing up.
I had a lovely, wonderful childhood.
I grew up in a 90 white, you know, middle class suburb.
There's what radicalized me was seeing the world turn into a garbage heap more than it was then, or at least it became more apparent.
Yeah, we're not all broken toys with uh, you know, things that went wrong that turned us into hateful maniacs.
Many of us had brilliant loving, kind parents grandparents, fond upbringings, and you know that part of that is remembering good things and wanting it for our own children and seeing how far afield that becomes uh, fair or possible or relevant in the current year.
Uh let's, let, can we get greedy and uh, encourage you know, a couple more rug rats under your roof?
Is that in the ballpark, or you're not telling me, you're not a one and done guy.
Nah i'm, i'm one and done.
I hate children Like, I'm over it.
I'm telling you.
Like, David Lane was wrong with his slogan.
No, well, yeah.
You know, just wait.
We got many plans.
Very good.
Yeah.
Three-year gap is a nice gap.
I'm just saying.
If junior's two or even two and a half, four years is a lot for kids to have a close relationship growing up.
But two, three is kind of the sweet spot, just in case that might influence your decisions.
And then going back to Ryan's, Ryan Sneedful, he says, will you ever get a different colored Helly Hansen jacket?
Are you just that black jacket ride or die till the end?
I do.
Well, you can actually see in that Shrine of Remembrance footage, I'm actually wearing the exact same jacket, but it's green.
So I've got a green version of it.
But in regards to political content that I bring out, I'm a black shirt until I die.
There you go.
Yeah, nothing's taken that black shirt off me.
You have to take it off my cold, dead body.
I encourage Tom to get some brown Helly Hansen gear.
He'll be the brown shirt.
You'll be the black shirt.
You guys could, you know, he can try to struggle his way up to the top.
Sam Rollo, you got anything else for Jacob?
Oh, man, that's good.
That's really good.
Great guest.
We will put in the show notes, of course, your new Telegram channel.
I'm sure someone else, you know, you know what I mean.
You guys kind of got decapitated by Telegram.
Apparently, Pavel Durov getting arrested in France did, in fact, have some impacts because it seems like that was an unprecedented thing that the Australian government probably went straight to Telegram and got you guys boom, Something we're familiar with from Twitter and even from Apple and Google to block specific channels.
But this one went right to the brainstem of Telegram.
That's a feather for your cap, seriously.
So we'll get those links.
And then also, how to help you guys?
Do you have an active legal fundraiser going?
You don't have to say the URL now, but we can put it in the show notes.
However, you want your fellow Australians or people around the world to help you guys out with your great work.
Yeah.
Well, I think my Telegram now, it's HerScent, which is like her is in German Mr., like H-E-R-R-C-E-N-T.
Sense is in like one cent.
You know, start a century.
So HerSense logistics is the page, obviously, bringing content from her scent directly to you in a prompt manner.
That's what our business is about.
That's right.
Yeah, my previous account, Jacob Herson, just got completely nuked without any warning alongside a bunch of other white Australian accounts.
So it was like the government, they don't like me.
I don't know why I'm such a nice little boy just trying to get my book learning.
I just aspire to go to university, you know, just contribute to society and all that kind of stuff.
And they're just bullying me.
It makes me very sad.
But I'm back on Telegram now.
On Twitter, what's my name?
I can't remember.
I think there's one.
It's called Her as well, like the same German Mr., but a Zant, S-A-N-D-T, her Zant.
It might be at Herzant.
I can't remember, honestly.
The problem is I get banned so frequently that I can't even remember the new pages when I'm trying to tell them.
Actually, so it's H-E-R-S-A-N-D-T-88.
So at H-E-R-S-A-N-D-T 88.
And in regards to, if anyone wants to donate right now, there's a fundraiser for Stephen Wells, who's a political prisoner in South Australia right now, because he's making a principled stand saying that, no, I'm actually not going to sign any bail conditions unless the bail conditions are not political and stop me from politically associating.
And the magistrates and the police are not budging.
They're just being positively verminous and just saying, no, we can take your political rights.
We don't care.
You failed to cease loiter.
You need to, you know, just basically submit.
And he's not submitting.
So he's in solitary confinement right now.
He's been in there for a month now and he's still strong.
So if you want to donate to him, it goes to his family and supporting them while he's making a stand for all of white Australia.
Amen.
Stephen Wells is getting system is getting very desperate and that's good.
Good in the big picture.
Very painful for the guys who come under the gaze of Sauron for sure.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that I really loved your Burton Ernie analysis video with the slight twinkle in your eye.
And it looked like just for a nanosecond, you were struggling not to laugh as you were reading your script.
Loved it.
Yeah, I like, there's a few of them, like the one where I was talking about gambling.
I was like, it's like, what is it?
100% of racist gamblers give up just before they win the jackpot and the race war.
I had one in Christmas complaining about, you know, that race trader, Santa Claus, and his health label.
Burton Ernie pushed that one out of my memory, but that was a great one too, buddy.
Yeah, good stuff.
Good for you for having a sense of humor.
You are not the pure dour political soldier that some may have been confused by.
God bless you and your lovely lady and your young one.
We wish you many more.
All the best to all the lads, including your minions, Thomas Sewell and Joel L. Davis.
But seriously, you guys are great.
You're an inspiration to white people around the world.
No joke.
Many of our guys here have said those Aussie boys have got their shit together.
And that's no lie.
So keep at it, brother.
I know it's not easy.
We love you.
No homo.
You've got the music going out.
And Sam and Rolo, I think it's almost midnight here.
Jacob's coasting into Happy Hour Friday Australia time.
I think he's earned one.
So I say, let's cut it here.
We'll go back on the air with family stuff.
And we do have a couple of good interviews coming up in the next couple of weeks for planning purposes.
But Jacob, thank you again so much.
You have got the break music and seems like a classic from white Australian history.
Thank you for having me on, 88.
You bet.
And the song, sorry, is just so the audience knows, where is it?
It's like, here it is.
White Australia song from 1910 by W.E. Nanton.
Yep.
And I'm guessing it was re-recorded because it sounds like a pretty high production quality.
So, all right.
Thank you, Jacob.
We love you, fam.
We'll talk to you next week.
And this is Jacob's tune to close us out here, episode 207.
Stay strong.
We'll talk to you soon.
Go ahead, Sam.
See ya.
Almost forgot that part.
We'll be right back. Bye.
This continent of ours is now a white man's land.
And not for its death and popular labor.
Great and sons shall now maintain an anglo-saxon claim to rule a kind of greatest destination.
Our holisty will ever be Australia, Australia.
Sound is out of the world with hands.
Australia, the white man's land, defended by the white man's guns.
Australia, Australia, for Anglo-Saxon race and sunflowers.
to protect our That's a ruling race of free fight unmolested.
A navy we must own so that we can hold our own.
Still a rival over the sea and pretend.
Ten thousand miles away, the bridge is made in lay.
Is far enough from England to surrender.
A blessed sunny land can enter hand in hand with power to find the fight for Australia.
Our holisty will ever be Australia, Australia.
Sounds out of all the standards.
Australia, the white man's land, defended by the white man's guns.
Australia, Australia, for Anglo-Saxon race and sunflowers.
I'll go to defend Australia.
The conflict has begun, and each and every one must face the fact that people is beauty.
There's a train on us for sums to stand behind our guns.
One flag upon one new possession.
The question one of all must be the new home to strife for the mighty world of Australia.
Our holistic will ever be Australia, Australia.
Sounding sound of handicuns.
Australia, the white man's land, defended by the white man's guns.
Australia, Australia, for Anglo-Saxon races and cross.
God bless and help us to protect our glorious land of strength.
Australia, Australia, signed down the waters and sun.
Australia, the white man's land, defended by the white man's guns.
Australia, Australia, your hand protection riches are crossed.