We're not going to talk about Trump and politics every show for the next four years, rest assured.
Although given the frenetic pace of things since January 20th, that might actually prove necessary.
But hopefully you'll forgive us for indulging again this week, given that basically the entire world is now tuned in daily to see what the hell comes next out of America.
Energy in the executive, indeed.
And the moves made so far have been absolutely consequential, like them or not, trust them or not, because they represent a break with our standard governance dating back almost a century, a style not attempted since FDR.
If you've listened to us even a handful of times over the years, you know we have been among the biggest Trump critics.
And me personally, going back to April 2017 and those strikes against Syria, we devoted a whole episode during the campaign to the TQ with white nationalist legend Greg Hood occupying the optimistic grounds to my or perhaps our skepticism.
And it would be a lot easier to remain a cynic today, the equivalent of a town crier reminding everyone after every piece of breaking news that amnesty and war on Iran are coming and that Trump is a Zionist.
It's tough to admit that maybe you might have been wrong about some things.
Now, they may ultimately try for the worst, war for Israel and a legal immigration blowout.
And it's good to remind people of the bitter medicine that might follow the initial sugar.
But those things are not on the horizon yet.
And if they do appear, that's a battle to be fought.
Just like when Alon and Vivek were trying to shove H-1B love down our throats and a veritable online mob with torches and pitchforks told them to shove it.
I'm also reminded of George W. Bush winning re-election in 2004 and then pushing amnesty and the privatization of Social Security.
Political capital or not, the people then also told him to shove it.
And we can do the same to Trump if he tries a monkey business.
No one in our circles thought this administration would come out of the gate swinging as hard as it has.
We expected at best a slight improvement on the first term and a minor course correction from Biden's sclerotic Judeo-gerontocracy.
But when the facts change, I change my mind.
When my preconceived notions appear to be off, at least initially, I'm forced to reevaluate my assumptions.
When I see manifest good being done, I welcome it.
I might even celebrate it, even if imperfect or done for the wrong reasons.
When I see manifest wrongs being done, I criticize them or attack them.
You can celebrate every deportation, every tranny kept out of your daughter's locker room, and still raise righteous hell on immigration and our nation's grotesque Israel hypocrisy.
But don't take it from me.
Take it from the Iron Chancellor.
Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable, the art of the next best.
You usually just hear politics is the art of the possible and not the rest of that.
The art of the next best is a pretty damn good description of what we're dealing with at the moment.
Anyway, lecture over.
What matters more than our feelings or our pride or our chat group debates is what's going on out there and what it means for us.
So, Mr. Producer, let's go.
Welcome, everyone, to Full House, either the world's finest show for common sense commentary or the home of pompous soapbox bloviating.
You decide.
It is episode 205 and I am your sewer and a little bit windburn host, Coach Finstock, back from running a 5K tonight for the first time since my ACL reconstruction almost exactly one year ago.
Can you tell I'm a little proud of myself, tapping myself?
Just don't ask the time.
I had to flog myself around the track to finish it, but got it done and then he felt great.
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And after all that, let's get on with it.
First up, rumor is he's already got a Benz in the driveway and a Ryan River cruise book thanks to the animal spirits already unleashed in the Trump economy.
Sam, congratulations.
Well, yeah, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah, that sounds fun.
That sounds nice.
Ryan Cruz.
Would that it were true?
Yeah, I was going to say Daniel, but I figured the Ryan was a more germanic.
What kind of car would you get if you hit the lottery?
Your choice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably Porsche Boxter.
All right.
Yeah.
For a while, I thought if money was no object, I actually would like to have a Tesla just to have an electric roadster around.
And he's turned me off one too many times.
You know, it's like, yeah, probably get a Lincoln Navigator.
I really like the looks of those.
Anyway, how's the weather been out there, Coach?
We had, I know that last time you were talking about negative temperatures out your way, and I had warned you that we had had an extremely cold snap.
I'm wondering how the weather's been because also the few days ago, we had a tantalizing afternoon with warm sun.
You know, it's warm, touching 50, let's say, you know, 48, 49 degrees.
But with that sun, man, me and my son, we were talking about, hey, let's get the basketball net out.
And then, but it just, it's, it gets dark too early to do, to do that.
But I couldn't help think of you how you always, you're always looking to that the next season coming around the corner.
And I'm wondering if you had any of the little bit of a golden, warmish afternoon.
We did.
We had a couple 50 and even, I think it hit 60 here, but we're paying the butcher's bill for all that snow.
So it's just all melted and it's a soggy mess out there.
The chickens look miserable.
They finally, you know, they sleep under the porch now.
They left the coop.
They're like, no, we prefer to be closer to the chicken, to the chicken food, man.
But it was warm enough that they slept in the trees where they prefer.
But yeah, in our valley, you know, in the summertime, the sun will more or less, you know, obviously rises in the east, but it just goes straight up and over and we're just baking.
It's sunny.
It's glorious.
But this time of year, due to the angle of the earth, it's almost all day behind these big pine trees and the hill on the side of the house.
So you can still see patches of snow here.
It's a slop heap.
Junior's been dying to go out and use his new soccer knit.
But, you know, help is on the way.
We got one more snowstorm here, six inches.
We're expecting next week.
That's what she said.
Oh, yeah.
So you're probably getting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're talking about that coming, but the last two days, everything's been absolutely ice covered.
I almost fell just walking out of the house.
You know, that's how icy it was.
Yeah.
But yeah, spring is on the way, right?
We just got to make it through January and February and it'll be sunny days again, literally.
There it is.
Yeah, that's, that was, that was my thought exactly.
It was, it was nice to be reminded.
You know, I think that's what it is.
Sometimes you're in the gloomy days, cold days, icy days, but at least in this part of the country, you do get a little reprieve once in a while of a day or two where kind of reminds you, don't give up hope.
Sun's going to come out eventually.
And you know what else, Sam?
I wasn't going to mention this on the air, but it's not a big deal.
I haven't had a drink in two weeks.
It was probably the last time we did a show.
And that's not because I was like entering a program or had a problem.
I was just like, you know what?
Like, I just, you know, the last thing that I need is not feeling very good in the morning when I wake up in these gloomy months.
And it's been kind of nice.
I haven't really noticed any, you know, like, no, no, no weight loss.
It's not like I feel super healthy and energized.
It's just, you know, it's the old joke about, you know, alcoholics feel sorry for the sober because when sober people wake up in the morning, that's the best they're going to feel all day long.
Yeah.
But it's like, it's nice to feel better in the morning and have energy.
So I'm just taking a break from it and it's been okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
I try to do that myself.
And Lent's coming up, you know, so it's always a good time to challenge yourself, see how far you can go with something like that.
But yeah, I'm with you on that.
I try to do the same.
Amen.
All right.
Well, welcome back, buddy.
And next up, it's just the three of us this week.
And if I'm cautiously optimistic about the zeitgeist and the vibe shift out there, he's throwing caution to the wind and telling all the negative Nancies and party skunks to grow up and stop being autistic.
I may be putting words in his mouth.
That may be accurate.
Rollo, welcome back, buddy.
It's good to be here.
I'm happy to put the Spurgs in their place.
We all have to turn in our WN and NS cards for being having a shred of enthusiasm.
Because we don't feel miserable at all times and we can like things that genuinely benefit us.
I mean, what a bunch of losers we are.
Okay, I'll soften the blow so you don't decimate 10 to 20 or God knows what aspect of our audience.
Let's get right into it.
We're going to do politics and the meaning of it.
And I guess we'll start with our thing.
And I've just been not astounded, but disappointed, you know, because I went in, you know, when Trump was making those appointments, Pete Hegset and everybody, I was just like, this is going to be more of the same and the YMCA garbage or whatever.
And when he came out storming Norman, I said, huh, we talked about it last week, all the good things that he did in the first week, the J Sixers, you know, the executive orders or whatever.
But then it kind of kept going and got on to more serious things.
And I just, and I shifted from being completely cynical and seeing looming disaster behind every announcement, every word, every act, good or bad, you know, and I just said, well, that is something that we wouldn't have gotten before.
That is a positive move for white people, maybe even all people in America.
This shifts, I won't say over tin window or whatever, but this drags things.
It shows people that things can be done differently with somebody who's, I joked with my dad.
I was like, new rule, every president now must be persecuted by the left for four years before taking office so that he's really, you know, good and pissed off and ready to be that bull in a China shop, even if he's a Zionist boomer.
But that, you know, it's like you post like Trump just, we'll just start with the easiest one.
Signing that executive order on keeping trannies out of sports.
He's going to go to keep them out of the Olympics, to keep them out of the bathrooms.
Banning the surgeries for children.
That came earlier.
Yep.
Now he doesn't exactly have the power to do that or whatever.
So I was like, here is an unequivocal good, a positive thing.
And then I was still surprised that there were skunks that came out and called that gestural slop or it shouldn't have happened anyway.
And I was like, they just lanced the boil on a leper.
I don't know if that's enough.
You're supposed to do that with lepers or not or whatever.
You know, it'd be like, forgive me, it would be like Hitler, you know, saying, okay, we are going to shut down Hirschfeld's Institute for Sexual Study and the Pure.
Yeah.
Right.
At the bare minimum.
Yeah.
It's just a signal or whatever.
You know, it just drove me crazy.
Go ahead, Sam.
Well, it's, it's the same thing as if somebody on our side or somebody we knew personally, was just trumpeting the double uh, say double word trumpeting Trump, everything he does, you know, praising everything he does, and saying that Trump's the guy, Trump's the real deal.
We should follow him, like just like somebody who was saying that all the time, we would say well, wait a minute.
No, that's, that's not.
You know, there is something, there is something more to this world and this life than all the things Trump is doing.
And, by the same token, the people who, it seems for at least for some, like their whole message is a reaction against Trump, like have you lost what you actually stand for?
What do you?
What are you standing for?
What message are you trying to promote?
I mean, on full house here, we have different topics we bring up, we have laughs, we talk about things.
Is everything is about Trump as a reaction against Trump?
It's just purely negatively.
Every, every single thing they can, they can find like a poison ivy leaf under the hood somehow like, just give it a rest.
Okay we're, we're suspicious of him too, but certain things are definitely good that have happened, and we're not saying, follow him and worship him, or or he's the guy and and he's the best thing ever, or anything like that, go back, go back to sleep, send kids into the military uh, pay your taxes.
Well, you should do that.
You should definitely do that, you know.
But it's like well, we're not saying, we're not saying that and it.
I was not inclined to be this way.
Right, I was the skunk, you were the biggest Trump opponent.
Yeah, I was like this is crazy.
This is the same guy.
You know like, we lived through the first term, the second, the second, the uh sequel is never as good as the first, sometimes just like the january 6th guys, if you remember, I said, well, you know, i'm going to vote for him, simply because if there's any kind of chance that he would let those guys go, then that's worth it.
You know now, that's is that being a Trump worshiper, or or uh, something like that.
But they all frame it that way.
No, I know it's it's, it's weird and they shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Therefore, it's bad okay well, but or, or let's take the South Africa thing.
You know cutting, cutting all the aid and is and, and you won't say white yeah, yeah.
Well, I thought he did say the white farmers.
Uh no, Trump said.
Trump said certain groups of people in south Africa are being treated that's a new euphemism.
I actually do think Elon Musk did say.
Somebody said white fire, i'm sure somebody did.
Yeah, so someone, someone said something, and and whatever else might may be going on, or whatever the other deeper thing you want to read, and all that certainly certain the, the things that are being done to these foreign countries, these foreign leaders are just screaming like stuck pigs the minute, the minute that it actually happens.
So it does make you think.
You know, look at uh Shine Baum in Mexico, or Justin Trudeau, or uh, or South Africa.
As soon as that was put into effect, immediately they started screaming, oh no no we, we have, we're constitutional democracy, we would never let that happen.
You know, just screaming to try to to uh argue otherwise.
So uh, somehow it's, it is hitting its mark.
And uh, that's I mean.
We've wanted for decades for some U.s president to acknowledge the suffering of our brothers in south Africa.
And here you go, you have something now does it?
Does that mean the problem solved?
No, of course not.
But right uh, it's a, it's a oxygen is on there.
Certainly it's on people's minds, and when more people hear that, it'll be on more people's minds, and all of that, as far as i'm concerned, is good, a good step.
Yeah, and and I i'm really not trying to be preachy here to the, to the guys who are reflexively negative toward anything that he does, because I get it, I was like that and I still am, to a certain extent i'm you know, there's the masses and then there's us.
Oftentimes we're talking to each other uh, more than we're talking out there, though everybody, almost everybody, is disgusted by Israel.
That's where we have a little bit of overlap, with the left, for sure, and then the vast majority of maga and conservatives, right-wingers, deep down, they don't want mass immigration.
Maybe, you know, maybe there's some loud accounts that do, or whatever.
So but uh, I get where guys are coming from, where everything is a setup for bad things to come.
They're just giving you some good things right now.
That may be true, it may be coming, but for right now you're getting good things.
You don't have to go to sleep and say, well, Trump kept the five trannies out of bathrooms.
Therefore, I love Israel and let's let all the Indians in, like no, it's.
You know, our guys have gotten really like.
Somebody said that they they sound like whip dogs sometimes.
Right, they're so used to getting kicked, they're so used to everything being bad, everything getting worse, that it's kind of seeped into our dna.
I I have.
I'm still like that.
I still think the decline is happening.
Right, it's probably the biggest deck chairs on the Titanic right now, but they're they're moving them, they're shaking up, they're showing that an executive can do big things.
Of course they're going to try to block it with lawsuits and the Supreme Court might not decide how, but better to try than just be like.
Well, all the these Eos, you know they're going to get overturned if a Democrat comes in.
Okay, that's what the commies say.
Right, two steps forward, one step back yeah, I mean uh you, you keep trying things.
It didn't work this time but maybe it will work the next time, Yeah.
And the whole idea that he lulls people to sleep, I don't know.
You give some red meat and people might ask for more red meat coming forward.
Okay.
Yeah.
For right now, people are enervated.
I mean, if you energize.
Not energized.
Yeah.
Enervated, I think.
Yeah.
We've been to the last four years.
Yeah.
I mean, if you talk to people, they are, you know, charged up and emboldened.
And I've even heard some people even told me that.
Like, oh, wow, I can get into some good conversations spreading our red pills around.
And that's the thing.
These people who are complaining should spend less time complaining and more time making something out of it, making talking points, talking to people IRL, not just online.
And yeah, I think there's a lot of good coming of this right now.
Absolutely.
And we'll talk about Gaza for sure because that really was a nausea, nausea inducing spectacle.
And it's like, I'm going to post good things that Trump does and clap at least or say, that is good.
Thank you.
May I have another?
Not in the punishment way, but give me more.
And I'm going to post the garbage stuff too.
Maybe piss everybody off because that's how it works.
He's an unpredictable boomer from New York who says some good things.
Remember when he said shithole countries?
Remember when he was like having a bosom buddies episode with Kim Jong-un and they were going to deal with that?
Beautiful border.
Got to love it.
Look at the great haircut.
The Girth.
Girth.
Yes, great Girth.
A little bigger than mine, but got a great new model.
Yeah.
I, you know, I still don't like Trump.
I still don't trust him.
I like what he's doing so far.
Net net.
I don't think there's a damn chance in hell that if Kamala were in, we'd all be like, we're ready to go now.
You know, like white nationalism, organize, hit the streets.
You know, let's run for office or whatever.
Now, there is an argument that the masses, the MAGA normies, whatever, would be pacified and, you know, totally buy into the cult.
We are not, but we are observing and trying to call things as they happen.
So I know Rolo's got a stem winder.
Do you want to drop it now or do you want me to go through the things going on?
How about it?
The thing that I want to bring up is you bring up that he is unpredictable.
And I think that's the most notable thing.
So the serious question for both of you.
Do you think that 2015-16, Trump shamelessly parroted our talking points to get elected?
Yes, to some extent.
Yes.
I think that he knows that immigration is bad and he has like some little specter in him of a little bit of white excellence and a recognition that New York turned into a shithole because it was largely unwhite.
I think he's got a supreme discipline to never mention that stuff.
But yes, our talking points, our desires, our demands filtered in a little bit there.
And I would say that they're more on display this time, but go ahead.
Well, do you think he did that?
Okay, why do you think he did that?
Well, I think his whole thing was he was giving an option to people that were disgusted by the George W. Bush, the Jeb Bush, the Ted Cruz.
He did it opportunistically or semi-sincerely.
I don't know.
But he knew he knew there was like a market demand for a politician who broke the mold that others would not could not.
And he did it.
And that's why he won.
There is a quote supposedly of him documented that before the 2015, 2016 run, he had said, you know, I could, I know how to play these people.
I could get elected by saying this and that and the other thing.
Sure.
So I think there is a certain amount of like he's saying what he thinks people want to want to hear.
Certainly in that 2015, 2016, there was this wave of, if you want to call it alt-right or, you know, kind of a emerging consciousness that had to do with podcasts and the internet and chat apps and things like that.
And, but I think there is some kind of because he was raised in an era where certain things were disgusting and certain values were assumed and things like that.
There is some part of that in his DNA that is making him react against certain things.
And he's, and he's vengeful, as he has said himself.
So he's vengeful.
Look at he was kicked.
Well, he should be.
They tried to kill him twice, supposedly.
He's been attacked in court and sued how many times in so many different courts and found liable for this and that and money and threatened to be sent to prison and everything.
Imagine you being in that position.
You would want to do some damage.
The thought occurred to me before we talked about doing the show that it's a little bit cucky or lame to spend so much time talking about Trump again.
You know, here we are again.
You know, now the reality is, you know, even off the air, that's all that anybody's talking about or debating about.
But you gotta, you gotta love him or hate him.
You have to give respect to the man for not just coming back from oppression.
And I'm not like trying to, you know, get my worm my way back into Washington or good graces or whatever, but he made an incredible comeback, even more incredible than Nixon's comeback.
Pat Buchanan's book, of course, was awesome.
And he is like the prime mover of global politics and national politics right now, writ large.
Aside from the hooks in him, he's the most powerful man in the world from about to make a proposal on Ukraine-Russia peace to the absolutely ludicrous stuff in Gaza to threatening any country on earth with sanctions if they don't help on immigration.
It's a sight to be seen.
And I'm for right now, I'm enjoying the ride, cautiously, you know, watching and waiting for the other shoe to drop for sure.
Well, think of there was another part to what I was asking, though.
Sorry, we got off track, Rolo.
Go ahead, Sam, and then let's go back to Rolo's.
Yeah, I was just going to say quickly, as far as, you know, if you want to think there's some legs to this movement, if I would call it that, look at how every country now is trying to copy it, right?
And have a Trump style movement in their country.
I'm not trying to say that that's perfectly okay or anything.
I'm just pointing out weak beer, perhaps.
Yep.
But he has touched a nerve and is giving voice to something in people that has been suppressed or ignored for a long time.
Kool-Aid man through the wall from neoliberal hegemony, leftist domination of every institution from now until eternity to now a bubbling of nationalism, populism, remigration, cutting back on all the YMR-esque humiliation rituals we've been forced to endure.
And now we know, thanks to him and thanks to Alan Credit where it's due, that so much of that stuff was literally just coming out of the usury sodomy abortion money spigot and nobody was doing anything about it, even drugs.
First turn, W, all that stuff.
They just went along with it.
Rollo, back to you, sir.
Sorry, we went off track.
No, that's fine.
My question is, why didn't he do that in 2020?
And he really the first term, you mean?
No, no, for his reason.
Why didn't he run on all this for his reelection?
Yeah.
COVID threw a massive monkey wrench in it.
And it was to some extent, Jared and Ivanka running around the White House like little palace advisors had something to do with that.
That's a little simplified or whatever.
And clearly, the moment that Jared, you know, sticks his nose into policymaking, we get the whopper from the other night.
But I mean, Sam's explanation of four years of persecution and prosecution and convictions could have said, you know, to hell with doing it that way.
He learned a lot of lessons over the four years.
Well, it's a good question.
Because I think to answer your question, Rolo, I look at things like how just out of nowhere, at least I've never heard of it before, take this talk of taking over Greenland.
Now, that does make me think, is Trump just a front man for some other person or people or thing, right?
Like a new world order thing I saw.
Like, how did he come up?
You think that he came up with this idea himself?
I doubt it, right?
And maybe a number of these things were like, I don't want to give credence to this project 2025, but I don't know.
You know, I'm just saying, like, is there something and why didn't he do it in 2020?
Because it wasn't the time for it or something.
You know, I don't think we should think that all these things are so random and so just forming up like clouds coming together in the sky.
And maybe there is deeper reasons that we can only guess at.
And well, and he really didn't do it in 2024 either.
He was like almost a lukewarm, sleepy candidate.
Yes.
So that like, that's what I, that's, that's yes.
Where does this come from?
Yeah.
So that's why I think it is on, he is unpredictable to for for better or for worse.
It's not necessarily.
Yeah, it's not necessarily a good thing for the people in power to have like such a loose cannon.
Oh, for sure.
Right.
It's because I do think that he did shamelessly take our talking points, but then why didn't he do it again?
Because I do think that he was throwing in the towel.
But I think that there was probably something to it with like the buying Greenland.
The people that control him want to, they have their own agenda, like Netanyahu giving Trump a golden pager.
One, no one's used a pager since 1997.
And two, like if they're blowing up pagers, then like that.
Yeah, would you take a pager from Netanyahu?
Like it's, it's one thing if some, if some I'd bring it with me when I like had to visit the Democratic National, if I had to go to Nancy Pelosi's office.
Well, Nancy, you have it, Nancy.
Yeah, I'm not talking about planning anything in a government office.
But Nancy, you take this gift from that.
And that's the thing is we're making, we're making jokes about that.
Some idiot on the street might not like, yeah, would you like a golden pager?
Oh, wow, gold.
Thank you.
But there's no way Trump would have dealt with that symbolizes.
Right.
And I, so I, I think there is a method to his madness.
Like this guy isn't just like a complete bumbling retard.
Like even though like, oh, he's lower energy and he is much older than he was years ago.
I see it in his face.
That crossed my mind by the end of this term, we might get some wild old, old man stuff, even wilder than now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
But, but he, he's still like there, there is, there are gears turning in that brain.
And I, I suspect that there is some ulterior motives there.
It may not be in our favor, but I think below the surface that that is a man who has always and will always think of himself first.
Yes.
Yeah.
And his bottom line.
It's just like Russian oligarchs, right?
Like these, these are powerful people with people around them that do things that maybe sometimes are in favor of something that benefits somebody not associated with them, but they act in their own interests, absolutely first and foremost.
Now, do those things come out to be like moral goods or good for society?
Sometimes, yeah, you know, but yeah, it is, it is more Machiavellian than maybe we'd like to think.
Yeah, he got, he got this far.
He's got some tricks up his sleeve and, you know, a method behind the madness to a certain extent.
I was going to leave the bad stuff until the end, the Gaza, the Israeli influence.
But go ahead.
I have another thing with that is this.
So you probably remember this a little better than I do, but as far as I know, the first major thing that he did in office, term one, was the Syrian missile strikes.
Like before that, it was just some like tax form, like executive orders, like really minor things, right?
Well, he, the, the biggest like newsmaker was the Muslim ban, quote unquote, which was basically like an executive order, which he has the right to do as the president can shut off immigration 100% if he wants to.
Yes, it's clear a national emergency.
It's it's in the immigration and naturalization act, but it was, it was that.
And he fired Mike Flynn at the first sign of trouble.
Uh, and they started on repealing Obamacare and the Bush tax cuts.
Yes, that was the legislative priorities.
Okay.
I was, yeah, I was, I wasn't serious.
Syria was like the first sign that he was marching to the beat of the systems drum and not independent or whatever.
Like it was just gross in front of Xi Jinping was visiting.
She, I just lobbed some missiles.
Syria, oh, way to go.
You know, really impressed by your tomahawks there.
We got bigger things we're cooking up.
But yeah, it's a different beast.
He's more serious.
He's more competent.
And he may be more serious and more competent on bad things too.
But go ahead.
Well, what I was getting at is he started out with probably the two most polarizing and biggest things that he could do.
Like he didn't just like sign, like, we're going to start deporting people.
Like he's showing numbers.
He's, he's like upping ISIS strength.
He's letting them do stuff.
Like there's something is happening.
And then he announces like the like Gaza resettlement.
Like we're going to like destroy what's left of the Gaza Strip and then we're going to send the Palestinians elsewhere.
Like it's like the two biggest things within a month.
Oh, flood is in the zone for sure.
You've never seen Democrats back on their heels or like disemboweled.
I don't know, neutered like this.
In the first term, it was a frenzy of the resistance.
They already had the Russia gate stuff cooked up on them.
And this time they're just like, you know, lawsuit here and there.
And I guess they're starting to fall.
I mean, more like that feels like a midterms action, like the Gaza Strip thing.
Like everybody was against that.
And there has to be internal polling that says like, yeah, don't do this.
He's going to cook you.
So it's like, why is he doing like the most popular thing possible and the least popular thing possible within weeks of each other?
Like this, it really feels like this is like Trump's on his way out.
I'm not saying he is, but it just, that's what it feels like.
He's on his way out.
So he's got to go, yep, we're going to, we're going to kill all the Palestinians.
We're going to take the Gaza Strip and then we're going to send all the Palestinians that are left.
We're going to send them to all those nice white countries.
It was.
Remarkable if you believe the Jewish press that it was Jared Kushner in his ear who apparently even wrote up the statement that Trump read.
So as soon as Jared, I know he's lingering out there and it's not like Donald's blocked him or whatever, but he's not running around the White House anymore.
The moment that he's like, he's like, dad, yeah, dad, I got an idea.
And Jared had talked about that previously.
It's so bad and was so unpopular.
Who are the people who liked it?
Ben Shapiro, Will Chamberlain, Cernovich, and Ted Cruz, the execrable Scott Adams, who was like, I hated it at first.
Then I went to sleep.
And then I came up with a giant cope about why this is really brilliant.
We're not doing 4D chess.
I will, there is a possibility, not doing 4D chess, but that, you know, he's throwing shit at the wall, either misdirecting or getting people to think differently.
And there is a shred of truth to the idea that like, if you actually want Gaza rebuilt, that it's pretty difficult.
Obviously, the Israelis wrecked it and Netanyahu would be happy as a pig and shit for somebody else to fix it up.
Evil, wrong, shouldn't happen.
Raise hell, oppose it left and right.
But there is like maybe if you could like get it in writing, like sign here, like, can we just like have you live here for a little bit while we rebuild?
And then you come back.
But we all know the writing is clearly on the wall.
They never go back.
Israel will take it or we'll, it's so bizarre and off the wall.
You saw Susie Wiles was like, her jaw dropped.
Like this was not in the briefing notes, Donald, you know, the fact that Netanyahu came as the first visitor in the first place totally did not disabuse anyone of their preconceived notions about AIPAC and the ADL and Israeli influence on American politics.
It was disgusting.
It was stupid.
I don't think, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that U.S. troops, I said this the night, U.S. troops like landing ashore like D-Day under Hamas sniper fire to like evict Palestinians from a bunch of rubble.
What a wonderful way to tank your presidency in one quick step.
That's what I'm saying.
Like in the beginning, he did it.
In the beginning.
Yeah, I don't know what to tell you.
It's not going to happen the way that he talked about it.
My point is going back to this is like his unpredictable nature.
Fair.
Yeah.
Like, like, I, so like, for everything, you could say this is the real Donald.
I don't think anyone other than Trump knows the real Donald.
Yeah.
I think a lot of people, like, he's always analyzing.
He's always going to be phylo-Semitic because those are the people that really do write his checks.
It's like, you know, like Kanye saying, like, oh, you know, if I, if they can take away all my billions, is it actually my billions?
And I think so at, so in that sense, like he will be phylo-Semitic because he cares about his money so much.
But at the same time, he, he does so many strange things that like he's still surprising people.
And not, and again, this isn't praise for him, but this is, this is an unknown that everyone's dealing with.
Because I think everyone believes they have him pegged, but he's forever the ultimate like boomer narcissist.
I think it was Claus or maybe Crash who said, I think that we can say, guys, that this is the accelerationist candidate and not four years of Kabbalah.
You know, he might drive this thing off a cliff.
He might drive us to World War III.
He might bankrupt us.
He might make it morning in America again, but it's churn.
It's action.
Every single day is coming with something.
And JD, whether he was sincere or not, said, oh, no, this is what we're going to do all four years.
All gas, no breaks for the next year.
So far, that looks kind of accurate.
And it's a show.
And before we go to immigration, let me talk about the tranny thing and just watching that video because I got a little bit choked up.
Somebody else admitted it too, to seeing Trump acting like a benevolent grandfather at the table, writing what was so obviously necessary, justified, surrounded by a room of, now, in the bigger picture, there were not all white girls there.
For whatever reason, almost every face in the crowd was a pretty young female white athlete.
And they look so proud to be there.
And that, and don't give me EOs are nonsense.
The NCAA right away was like, yes, we are going to, you know, look at this and see how we can comply.
Come on, Google and Facebook and Amazon are bending the knee on DEI.
You're not going to tell me that like some, you know, shitty school district is going to be like, no, we're, we're letting trannies compete.
It's like, no, that's not happening with us.
It makes me think that how many people hate it, right?
Like you would think Google, Google is going along with this, but probably even there, a lot of people hate it.
That was a crystal clear, very good moral thing to do that how many sexual assaults is it going to prevent two 12 100?
I don't know, but it's going to prevent some.
It's going to put those freaks back in their place where they belong, maybe even knock some sense into them.
And it represents a lion in the sand.
What do we always say about conservatives for so long?
They could serve nothing.
You know, Bill Buckley, his famous thing from National Review was standing athwart history saying no.
And now you actually, even if it's, you know, on that, it's like, God damn, excuse my French.
That was a wonderful moment, a moving moment, and it was a real moment.
And I, and on that, on that in particular, if you can watch that and with a stroke of a pen, strike all that cancer that quickly for the benefit of our girls of all races, if you want to go that way, then I think that that was, that was when I really, really realized that too many of our guys are up their own asses, addicted to negativism, acting like beaten dogs.
And it's okay to say he's going to do some good things.
You don't have to feel guilty about it.
It's not all a rug pull.
What is he going to like reverse and go pro-tranny later on in the administration?
Like have a little bit of sensibility.
And if you want to make it about strategy or whatever, if you go around telling every single person that you interact with, which still matters, by the way, like we don't have to obsess about the normies, but the conversations that you have with your family, with your friends, with your coworkers matter.
And if you go around saying everything is bad, this is all Jewish tricks.
The rug pull is coming.
I not only think that you're wrong in part, but you're going to sound like a lunatic and nobody's going to want to deal with you.
You'll be even more ghettoized than we already are.
Especially that you don't present like a good vision of something, you know, like where are you talking about good things and giving good ideas and uplifting people or, you know, any of those things.
That's we got trannies out of bathrooms.
How about now we stop fags from adopting children?
Right.
There you go.
Do we have that power?
No, not really.
But you know, there's this weird thing.
It's like, well, we don't have any leverage anymore.
He's in office, right?
Well, it's like, well, if we have no leverage and we're only talking to ourselves, like, you know, we don't matter, whatever.
But it's social media shitstorms do matter and people's voices do matter when they try to push amnesty.
Everybody's calling in, sending faxes, you know, doing protests or whatever.
Like we do as a mass collective have power, both in our thing and in the broader culture.
And I said it before, where we can really, where the rubber really hits the road is when we agree and our desired outcomes line up perfectly with America, even if it is not national socialist or pure racist or whatever, but we want good, healthy things for white people.
And that's not mutually exclusive from some of the policy things like gays adopting and abusing children.
Now, is that going to happen?
I have no idea.
Is it possible?
I don't know.
But, you know, thank you.
Now let's do this.
Thank you.
Let's move on to this.
All right.
How about DACA?
All right.
How about the civil rights?
If you're willing to go back to LBJ's administration and revoke executive orders on affirmative action, let's look under the hood of the Civil Rights Act.
I don't think that we necessarily have that power, but those are things that certainly people should be saying.
Nothing breeds success like success.
So, you know, this, if you want to describe it in terms of the Overton window moving, and certainly we know for a fact that politicians have been keyed in on our memes and our talking points.
Not that we're controlling things or pulling any strings, but definitely, collectively, our sentiments are out there and they're being talked about.
And I mean, I mean, you just look and I hate to be the just referring to the same thing all the time.
Look at the comments section anywhere about anything.
I mean, you know, look at look at Twitter, you know, whether you like a lot of it or not.
I mean, you know, and to the anti-Semitism executive order and the Pepe's.
Oh my God, the Pepe's and the memes.
I'm like, how many times can somebody post that tweet?
You know, it's so much of the repentance.
I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, you get 2,000 retweets these days with like a basic anti-Semitic meme or whatever.
I'm like, good God.
You know, like, I was tweeting in the wrong time because, you know, back then you'd be lucky to get 100 or 200.
Shockwaves, man.
Coming through.
Nobody wants their country to be invaded.
Everyone is disgusted by APAC and slavish commitment to Israel.
And those are, you know, two Achilles.
And you're not shoving the anti-Semitic genie back in the bottle.
Like once, like, yeah, once the Jew is known, it is game over.
Yeah.
Like people, like, you're not, you don't unnotice that.
That self.
Right.
For all of the nonsense that comes with all the people that cope about Trump.
Well, there's, there's just as many people that are not on Telegram that feel like we do.
Because, you know, there's probably normies that are like, you know, I like Morgan Freeman.
He's a smart guy.
Yeah.
At parties, but on Twitter, he's like 1488 GTRW.
I like Morgan Freeman in that interview with Mike Wallace.
That was the one where Mike Wallace did the famous drop.
I'm Jewish.
I don't want Black History Month.
You want White History Month?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My point is that there's probably a lot of people that are Jewish and it's different for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Marijuana White History Month.
I'm Josh.
Yeah.
It's funny.
So yeah, there's the exact way of saying no.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
And I'm looking at Howard Zinn's The People's History of the United States.
I picked this up at the library just because I had to kill some time.
I was like browsing the stacks.
Our local library is pretty bad on nonfiction and history and stuff like this.
I found this.
I was like, let me see what this is all about.
And I won't do a big thing here, but he has, it's not as bad as I expected because there's a lot of history in here and factual bad things that happen.
Of course, Howard Zinn and I agree.
The Africans being brought to the United States was a great tragedy just for different reasons.
But he is like some of our guys in that he is only focusing on the negatives and the bad and the corruption and the torture and the class.
It's obviously a Marxist text that it's a Jew trying to gin Americans back up into communism or Marxism.
But that whole book is pure negativism and culture of critique.
And I think that we should, I won't beat this dead horse anymore, but I think we should be careful to not be that way when it comes to Trump and policymaking in the United States.
You can get good things for the wrong reasons, good reasons for good reasons, and you're going to get bad things too, and you can oppose them.
I'll stop preaching, at least try.
Let's go to the anti-Semitism executive order, which of course that I read.
It's funny.
You can say, well, you know, if you're going to celebrate one executive order as this great thing, like the trannies and bathrooms issue, then how can you dismiss this?
I don't dismiss this.
This is a signal for sure.
Somebody said, well, look, they have to throw red meat to the Jews too.
And I was, it's not that long.
I'm not going to read it on the air for sure right now.
But it's clearly focused on the campus protests, which were overwhelmingly by brown leftists against Israel.
And if you, you know, it cites ATNUSC 241, which is about conspiracies against rights.
So if you were to group up with a group of pro-Hamas students or anti-Semitic students at college and go around and try to intimidate Jewish students from going to class or lock them out or close arms, then I think you could possibly be in for a bad time.
Remember, we had the kid on the show, Thought Crime and Punishment, who got nicked flyering at a synagogue?
Yep.
You mess with fire, you're going to get burned.
But am I quaking in my boots that jackbooted government thugs are going to break through my window if I say that NetNet and the aggregate Jews are a vicious, fabulously wealthy, parasitic, nation-destroying group of border destroyers, usury pushers, and pornography peddlers?
No.
Take it back.
Coinclippers.
Yeah.
Like I haven't, I haven't seen anybody like deactivate their account on Twitter.
Yeah, I know.
Has anybody really felt like I can't criticize Judaism or Jewry or Israel as a result of this executive order?
I don't think so.
I certainly don't.
I'm not going to go vandalize a synagogue.
I'm not going to go like with a bullhorn in front of a kid with a yarmicole and say, you know, or whatever, as much as I might, you know, be tempted.
It's, you know, there's, there is, there is still, I'm the plan truster.
At least we have the Constitution surrounded by a C of Jews.
But you know what I mean?
Like we still have a First Amendment.
You can still criticize whoever the hell you want.
And it's a little bit of a warning shot.
Maybe prepping for more.
I'm not like totally Pollyannish on this, but I'm not losing sleep over the anti-Semitism EO, just like I'm not super excited about the anti-Christian EO that came out or non-anti-Christian just tonight before we went to tape.
You know, go ahead, Rolo.
Well, the thing is with the anti-Semitism EO.
So let's say some guy says like, you know, I hate Jews and they try to send him to jail over it because as per this thing, because that's all, that's how it starts.
It starts with Hamas.
And then pretty soon, you can't say Baby or Israel.
Yes, of course.
But the only way they set those precedents is they have to take it to court.
So people are already pretty, not everybody, but a lot of people are pretty jailware, enough of them.
And then it goes to court that you, okay, wait, hold on.
You can't criticize Jews at all because that will be the precedent that they'll be trying to set.
So if you, if they have to turn that into something, and if you're the guy, then they're going to throw the book.
They're going to give you 400 years because you said, I hate Jews because they're a bunch of lying, cheating, sneaking, underhanded nephews.
You're getting books to the window.
I said, someone said, I didn't.
You had a clause there.
Yeah, I know.
But yeah, someone, but someone says that.
And then, and then that goes, you are the next martyr.
And then they're, holy crap, that guy just said that thing.
And then now everyone sees it.
Like, wait, what?
You can't criticize Jews.
Even the most, like, only the most brain dead boomers.
Like, well, you shouldn't have been.
But most people are being, wait a minute.
Hold on.
Freedom of speech, but this is just that.
Like he didn't.
So I don't know.
I feel a little protected because it's a win-win.
Either we're going to still be able to say it because of free speech or someone is going to get pinched real hard for it.
And everyone's going to see, okay, that's who's in power.
That because it's going to be specific.
You cannot say anything about Jews.
That's what it's going to be.
And then that's going to be even more attention.
And we won't be in Kansas anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Another episode title.
And I'll even go this far and say, I am willing to do a Nigel Farage with the window roll up.
If you remember that, you know, he's like looking out in the protest and then the window goes up.
If a bunch of leftist brown, pro-Hamas college kids here on visas get kicked out of the country, yes, I'm aware I can, I can surf on the slippery slope and I might wipe out, but I'm not going to cry in my beer and about them getting kicked out.
I don't think there should be any foreign students in the United States, frankly.
So if there are fewer brown, Muslim, anti-Israel students in the United States, I'm not particularly upset about that.
I can understand why you'd want to give the Jews more headaches to worry about and have Bill Ackman, you know, like seeing pogroms in his sleep or whatever.
But at the same time, Rolo has been very solid on saying, we have families.
We have a country that we have to live in.
And if given one of the infamous unfair hypotheticals, like, do you want a safer country with deportations?
We'll see about the legal immigration down the road.
Or do you want this, you know, some other variant like, you know, Kamala Harris being friendlier to Hamas students in America.
Yeah, I'm going to take some good things right now and be grateful for them, but not shut up about the rest.
Well, okay.
So I do want to say something real quick on the on the Harris thing because a lot of people say like, oh, it'd be better because blah, blah, blah.
So I haven't heard too much of that.
They're starting to quiet down on that front.
But yes.
So I'll say this about Harris because recruitment is up, which I do believe under.
Yeah, I do believe under Harris, recruitment probably would not be up.
But if you think like, oh, that, well, that's a bad thing because we need a weak military to destroy the empire.
Okay.
Okay, so you got some Jews that say, hey, we want to go to war with Iran or China or whatever.
Most likely Iran.
Right.
Okay.
So a recruitment.
Yeah.
Recruitment's down.
Okay.
Kamala Harris has a new bill proposed.
Well, just in times of emergency, we have a draft, but only in cases of real emergency, if whatever's threatened, blah, blah, blah.
Well, yeah, but you do it in a nice way so that you have it passed.
So it's just, it's just easily passed through Congress and the Senate and she signs it new law.
And then a year later, false flag, boom, there's your war.
It doesn't even matter.
So like, don't if they pull off a good false flag, all bets are out the window.
Yes.
Like all very, yeah, we'd, of course, be able to see it for what it is, but the masses would probably go along with it.
Something blamed on Iran or China.
Yeah, exactly.
But it doesn't matter if recruitment's up or you just, because if you want that war bad enough, you, you'll find some dumbass way.
Like even if it's a draft, because if it's just like, we're going to draft you because we're going to go to war with Iran, probably wouldn't work.
You just wait, you know, nine months or something, just pass some stupid law because you want freedom.
You think Kamala Harris is sitting there like, I don't want white man to die for Israel.
Probably not.
Yeah.
And I know you, you got one in the hopper there, Sam, but somebody said very intelligently, hello, military recruitment is often an inverse relationship with economic growth and how the economy is doing.
So the irony is if Trump actually will see, you know, we talk about Trump doing rug pulls, and then there's a lot of people who think that they're going to pull the rug out from him and we're long overdue for a massive financial collapse or troubles or whatever.
But if the economy is like, you know, really hums back to life and inflation somehow comes back, you know, stays low, then the military is not going to be as attractive to young white men as going out and getting a job and making a money instead.
They said in December and January, they met and surpassed their quotas.
And I think that's maybe because people think, oh, I'm going to go and bust the cartels in Mexico or something.
You know, how many troops have they actually sent to the border?
Supposedly they sent a lot of troops to the border already.
And, you know, that's, that's the thing.
I think people think if I was going to join the military, you know, there's reasons to join the military, maybe the money or the savings or the, you know, that when you, when you get out of it, you're a veteran.
But people don't want to join when it's going to be for some dumb or foolhardy thing that they foresee might be.
Either you're going to have Shaniqua yelling at you as the gunny sergeant or you're going to go get your nuts blown off in eastern Iraq or Iran or Afghanistan or whatever.
They convinced them back then after 9-11.
But well, yeah.
See, yeah, that's what it takes some kind of big, it would not, that same thing would not work.
It would need to be something else.
But yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure, you know, obviously Hegseth put out that tweet and he showed, you know, a lineup of like six.
It was, it was like five white men and one female.
And somebody said, how hard did they have to try to find no fat s to line up at the neighborhoods?
But it's also a little suspicious, like, you know, getting to the swearing-in ceremony is apparently, I don't know.
I actually had an army guy come to my house at my invitation near the end of high school, but I didn't bite.
I did ROTC and said, regardless, I'm a little skeptical of like, oh, we've got this massive upsurge because it takes some time for people to go through that.
And did they really just start enlisting after the election?
Maybe I'm sure some did.
But the signal is important that they are trumpeting that, hey, it's cool again.
You know, people are signing up again.
Please do it.
And frankly, that's what, I mean, what do you expect them to not try to convince people to join a military that's been under recruited for years?
I don't blame them.
Another thing that drives me crazy is the whole, well, maybe we'll go to immigration or we'll go to the most, arguably the most important thing, you know, wrecking some of these agencies, firing people en masse, offering buyouts.
But you can't win with some people.
And it's like, well, Trump didn't really shut down USAID.
He moved it over to the State Department, right?
So for 50, 60, 70 years since Kennedy created it, it's just existed as an autonomous thing.
And Republican presidents have left it alone, used it for their own nefarious purposes.
Trump has now gutted it.
Almost all those people are going to get fired and it's going to be brought under closer control.
My point being, you know, for so many years, that was one of the things I was always, when I was a conservative, I was like, no, just cancel PBS.
Just, you know, zero it out, eliminate all those things.
And then arguably more intelligent or more worldly people said, no, you don't want to, you know, devastate those things.
You want to take them over and mold them to your purpose, which is apparently exactly what he's going to do with USAID, get it under the roof.
And there is a place for foreign aid and limited, you know, disaster response situations.
There's nothing inherently wrong with helping people.
But yeah, and the Department of Education, who the hell is going to miss the Department of Education except for the people who work there or who like really like those federally subsidized loans that are still an albatross around their neck, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, if you read the like the talking points on that, you know, it was created by Carter, I think in 1977, something like that.
And ever since, yeah, and ever since that time, the quality of education in this country has gone straight down like a rock dropping off a cliff.
So, you know, I don't think we need that one.
Department of Education.
Yeah.
So let's just do it now.
Arguably one of the most important things that's going on right now is they are following the money and they're starting to cut off the money.
And we're finding out where all this money has gone to political, whether it was mass subscriptions.
I don't care if they were like literally just handing like, here you go, political, you know, parrot art propaganda, or they were like, I'm going to buy 2,500, you know, Politico Pro subscriptions for the entire Bureau.
Did you see the same thing?
Babylon B was saying they want to have like so many subscriptions to the Babylon B, you know.
Yeah, they'll be going on Ryan Cruises and all driving Benz.
Joel Berry can eat one.
He sucks so bad.
You know, he's the worst, worst Christian cuck Israel first tweeter.
Everybody loves the savage, insufferable.
But, you know, to shut, it's not, it's, it's saving money, right?
And we're going to have battles about, yeah, Bannon just today said, hello, if you want to save the money, you should look at the defense budget.
Kudos to Bannon.
He's kind of been spitting fire.
He Bannon said, shut down H-1B.
Don't trust Alan.
And I just want, you know, Wall Street Journal interviewed him.
He's still sharp as hell.
He's probably the same age as Trump.
And he was like, you have to look at the defense budget.
Duh.
You know, like, if you think that like Alan's wunderkind can like go into USAID and basically re-jigger things and go into the Treasury Department, can you imagine sending a group of like snot-nosed 20-something brainiac college kids into the Pentagon?
Let's look at the books.
Let's look at where all this money is going.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was reading an article.
You used a term earlier of, I don't know if I say it right, the gerontocracy, right?
You know, and because they were the article was going on about different, like the people who signed the Declaration of Independence or other, you know, bellwether things in this country's history were all dominated by people in their young 20s.
Yep.
You know, and there's something very unhealthy about having all these very old people and, you know, dominated, not just that there are old people in these things, but majority dominating it.
And it's just something very, an indicator of something very unhealthy in our society.
And it just, it made me think right away how Rolo points out on his other show how like all these actresses that are in their 60s, you know, are playing, are playing women in their 20s or 30s.
And it just says something very bad about the state of ours.
Did you see it?
Did you see all that thing?
All the things like all these actors were given millions of dollars in U.S. aid to take pictures with Zelensky.
Yeah.
I didn't even see that one.
Yeah.
It was like Sean Penn, Orlando Bloom, Ben Stiller, and Angelina Jolie were given.
That's just what they were doing with the Kamala campaign, too, right?
You know, given Oprah-friendly interviews and stuff like that, pure, pure political corruption.
They sued CBS and CBS had to release the unedited.
These are unqualified goods.
Again, even if he's a Zionist, even if rotten things are coming down the line, I was never into the big libtard thing, but the left is overwhelmingly our enemy, the federal bureaucracy.
Can you imagine like, you know, how many decades they were talking about, we need to shrink the size of the federal government.
We need to, you know, like get control of the bureaucracy.
And they're doing it in weeks instead of years.
Here's why that's bad.
Trump just kept the tranny out of my daughter's locker room.
Here's why this is really a nefarious plot to listen.
If you're lull you to sleep, see some Puerto Rican guy in a dress with his with his ding-dong hanging out.
It will make every white man in the world wake up.
Yeah, right.
You have to bear that brunt.
You and your daughter have to bear that brunt for the sake of all white men.
It's going to take a while for them to wrap up or whatever.
And it was like, yeah, I should just go, you know, get murdered by an immigrant to get to own the libs or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I'll give a shout out to a friend.
I don't know if I posted or whatever, but he described it as peeling back the layers on a mummy.
And we're just getting started.
Yeah.
The rancid corpse.
People are saying, why is Epstein's, apparently Dick Durbin from Illinois has been the one keeping Epstein's client list.
I'm not sure.
I'm not surprised.
What a scumbag that guy is.
Why is that a winner?
Yeah.
So all there's all these new possibilities opening up.
People are angry.
People are energized.
People are not afraid to say this sucks.
That's stupid.
F you on Gaza.
No, we don't want H-1Bs, et cetera.
And when they get good things, they're going to be like, all right, yeah, let's go.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
On immigration, extraordinarily important.
My number one thing.
It's like, would I prefer the eradication of Jewish power in the United States tomorrow?
Yes, of course I would.
What is more in the Bismarckian realm of the possible right now and consistent with what Trump has promised and what the American people want is the mass deportations and ideally repeal the 65 Immigration Act.
The numbers are all over the place.
300, 700, over 1,000 back that they are still posting the numbers on the White House site.
They're not posting the numbers anymore.
You know, what's going on?
It makes sense that it's going to take them time to ramp up.
deportations.
The funny thing was they hit 109% capacity in their like detention beds.
So they did have to actually like ankle bracelet or whatever and let a couple people out.
And it made me think, yes, 110.
They can never let it get to 110.
But they are doing it.
They are raiding neighborhoods.
We have firsthand testimonies from guys who are saying, no, the crews aren't there.
No, this guy is shut down.
No.
And does it cross my mind that, yes, the deportations are going to be tough because they've all gone to ground for the time being?
And even if I want the mass, I want somebody said 60 to 70 million illegals.
I don't think that that number is in the realm of the possible, but tens of millions for sure.
I would err, maybe lower than 50.
The border encounters are way down.
So even if not coping, demand more, threaten Tom Homan to a fight in Applebee's.
Call him a pussy and say, you know, these are rookie numbers.
Don't actually do that because he might actually meet you at Applebee's and slug it out.
But simply by propagandizing the arrests and having a flight to Guantanamo and they just dumped off a bunch of Indians in India, it is sending a signal that's long overdue.
Yes, there were deportations under Obama and Biden and W or whatever, but a lot of those numbers were just border returns.
You know, it was like, hey, we caught you, Jose, right there at the Rio Grande.
You're going back.
That gets chalked up as a deportation.
Clearing out the interior and getting big numbers there is going to be more difficult, more expensive, and more politically painful, probably.
You know, I hate when I see we're going after criminal, illegal aliens, and we might pick up a few strays on the side if they happen to be hanging out together.
They're all criminals.
They all should be criminalized.
According to Caroline Lovett, if you're here at Riker and you broke a law, obviously you're a criminal.
That's just good definition.
Yeah.
Blonde bombshell married to an older man.
Bunch of guys jealous of him.
I don't know.
So yeah, even if we're not getting mass deportations right now, we want them.
They should happen.
The dissuasion, the deterrence effect has been massive on the border.
And I don't think those are cooked numbers.
And you have Democratic politicians.
I think it was the New Jersey mayor, Phil Murphy and Alon Omar basically admitting that they're committing felonies by aiding and abetting illegal immigration.
Go after them, Tom.
Maybe I'm living in a fantasy world and this is all kabuki theater.
I don't know.
But they're more aggressive on it.
I remember the first term clear as day, the talk about the wall, trying to get funding for the wall, putting out press releases about immigration.
They just seem more serious and intent about it this time.
And then finally, I'm getting a little hoarse.
He is actually shaking up the FBI.
I have, I have splurged on a Wall Street Journal subscription for about the past year, much to my chagrin anyway.
Really cheap, like two bucks a month or something to start.
I don't know when that's going to run out, but I've been sharing those links because whatever you think about the Wall Street Journal, neoconservative open borders, you know, it does real reporting.
And one of the agents was just like, no, there's no, there's no bureau anymore.
Like everything has changed.
They feel like our guys.
Yeah.
Why go on?
Welcome to the party, pal.
They're reassigning FBI agents to immigration cases.
I don't think that's a lie.
Are they not, you know, if they weren't serious about this and this was all just smoke and mirrors, like, why would they be going to the trouble to reorient the FBI toward immigration?
They're firing.
And why would they go through the trouble of like orchestrating like videos of deportations?
They could just lie and say like, oh, yeah, we're doing deportation.
Like if the if the issue is they're just lying about these things, you can lie way better in a way that we would just accept it.
Yeah.
Like people, people are used to the government lying.
So Trump gets into office.
Oh, we're doing the deportations.
We're deporting thousands a day.
So many deportations.
The illegals, they just, they're just running from like, and then we'd be like, yep, that's Trump.
That's it.
That's what he does.
So yeah, there are things happening.
It doesn't matter if many things happening all at once.
All of a sudden, that terrible movie, everything all at once, whatever that is.
Something is happening.
It doesn't.
And again, like the jury.
It's not perfect, Rolo.
It's not going exactly how I want it to.
I'm just a guy in West Virginia, but my opinion is really good.
You know, I have a guitar cable right here.
I can't just make myself.
Well, as a white nationalist, I could always tell you that the worst times were times of stagnation where nothing was happening.
When things are happening, that's when we have opportunity.
Bad or good, that's when we have opportunity.
Everybody's paying attention.
If Kamala had won, I would be so tuned out of all this.
I couldn't bear to look at him, right?
Like, you know, things are interesting.
Yeah, I just feel like I can't possibly, you know, the thought of, like, you know, giving us from the Oval Office.
Imagine Kamala.
It's not.
Kamala Harris would not be giving a speech from the Oval Office.
It would be from her gingerbread house.
This is not your grandpappy's Republican Party.
Trump is different.
The Congress critters, many of them are majority of them are cowards, bought by APAC.
But I suspect that some of them can be brought to heal.
I can always say, don't blame me.
I voted for Thomas Massey, which is true.
I saw Stew Peters do that.
I didn't know that Stew Peters was a Thomas Massey appreciator.
But like, there's an example.
Like there, he's showing us good things and then he's terrible on other things.
Like we've broken through so many firewalls on immigration, on affirmative action, on rolling back on transit.
Now we can work on other things and push for other things.
And I don't think it's not fantasy.
Like, you know, we're not making policy.
We as a cause are, you know, racially aware, contrary to Jewish power people.
We're numerous and we're still growing.
We don't have the hands of power and you have to worry about Peter Thiel and Alex Karp at Palantir and whoever else is bankrolling all of this for sure.
Like we're not whistling Dixie.
We're not whistling past the graveyard.
There are very serious bad influences, including Jared, who apparently can still call up Don and make a proposal.
But I think things are moving in at least a better direction than before.
That can give you hope.
That can make you more aggressive.
And when I see guys looking like from behind the tree, looking for everything to be negative, I just think it's wrong and a bad approach as well.
Like it's a bad look.
It's a bad look.
As a white nationalist.
As a white nationalist, whether something is going our way or nothing is going our way you, you conduct your life with uh faith, courage and defiance in the.
In the face of the enemy we stand.
The?
Uh Hitler wrote, uh uh one.
One of the chapter titles in his book really always stuck with me as like a personal motto, uh, the strong man is strongest when he stands alone, you know, and and so that's how you should be living your life anyways.
Uh, whether whether things are going our way or not going our way and holding yourself with honor, and some of the commentary that we're making reference to, it just doesn't sound like that.
You know what i'm saying?
It's, it's very crybaby type.
Yeah, it's lacks.
It lacks a standing for saying what you do stand for, and instead it's this kind of a uh, you know, critique.
Culture of critique came to my most literally cultural critique.
Well, and another thing is, if that's how you look at everything and i'm not calling them Jewish people see you as a guy that wants everything to be the worst way ever so, like that, that looks terrible for you, just just like who wants to be around that person.
And the thing is, is it that important to be right?
And and you're not right yet, and do you think that that and and a lot of these?
Don't you feel like a stupid Shabos Goi Rollo for believing his lies already?
I'm like, what the hell are you smoking?
None of us, but none of us believe his lies it's, the thing is like they're they're acting like we're not waiting for the rug pull, like we know the rug's gonna get pulled.
We're just in some way, we're just like.
We're just like standing.
We're looking at, not Persian rugs yeah, made in American China rugs yeah, like we're.
We're look, we're looking at the rug.
We're like yep, there's the rug, it's gonna get pulled.
We're just not gonna be standing on top of it when it happens.
And the thing is with nothing has happened yet for like better or for worse, like we don't know if anyone's right or wrong yet, like all we are doing is just saying good things are happening, are good, and all these bad things that are these people that are saying that they're actually bad things.
They're saying like well hypothetically, this is why they're bad, where we're just like, no no, they're like right down the road possibilities yeah, like you're talking about it may be bad.
Therefore, we should not be happy and and we have to deal with reality.
We don't have, we like, we're not here to deal and dwell in hypotheticals if Trump deports a hundred thousand yeah, if he deports a hundred thousand or half a million or whatever violent criminals, and then and this is a very possible scenario, I grant he's going to say, we've cleaned it up folks, we've done the mass deportations and now it's time to turn the page and move to, you know, a more equitable uh fair, immigration.
We want the best people aren't going to be on board, then we'll, then we'll fight, then we'll fight on that ground.
That ground is not here right now.
If he says it's time for us to strike at Iran's nuclear facilities we cannot allow them to have a bomb i'll go join a leftist street, anti-war street protest.
Uh, for that for sure.
Because it's wrong like yeah, and we'll we'll, we'll get there when we get there and we're not yeah it's it's, it's retarded to just dwell like you should be unhappy because of a hypothetical that's stupid, like here.
Let me frame it this way, hey I, i've just started dating a girl and it's going really great.
No way man, she's gonna, she's gonna cheat on you.
Yeah, i'm gonna cheat on you.
She's gonna.
She might have more bodies than you think.
Yep hypothetically, you know, you don't even bother, you know it's it's a woman.
In this day and age, how is that any different?
Yeah, every nothing is free.
Nothing, nothing is perfect.
Yes, nothing goes exactly as you want it to in your own personal life, or certainly not in politics.
It's a huge.
It's an he's upsetting the apple cart in many, many ways.
For the first time he didn't do it in our lifetime.
Yeah no, I know we, all of us are accustomed.
Clinton in the 90s may be a little bit different.
The militia guys are jumping out of their chairs like no, we know, we saw it back then, other than my teeth, just for yeah, he didn't do anything.
He like did nothing.
He did some.
Like, really he did things that he's, that that Jed Jeb would have done even.
He's done more meaningful things in two weeks than he did in four years, I absolutely agree, than any president has done in four years.
But he was bad on covet.
He, he introduced the Vax.
Yep, pretty stupid on that one.
I actually he's like we got a massive, you know, nationwide pandemic that's killing people.
Yeah, go ahead and make the vaccine, I don't know well, one of his things now, the China virus well and, and people that were uh dishonorable, right charged from the military and stuff like that, he's going to make good on them.
He says oh yeah I, I think yeah, I think that's so that's that's, that's good too.
Absolutely, the courts may strike some of this down.
Okay yeah, i'm aware that's just a good practical thing.
You know, there's probably people know, people who have were negatively affected, like that, and to hear that somebody would be made whole in some way uh hey, that that's great.
Yep um, there's for the.
For the first time in our lifetimes, you have both a president who's exercising executive authority to actually do the things that many Republicans have talked about for a long time.
Uh, and that feeds a certain optimism.
The thought of all, like you know, federal bureaucrats are probably, depending on the agency, 80 to 90 Percent total Democrat voters, donors, or whatever.
And they're whacking that back significantly.
And if they don't take the buyout offer, they're probably going to get shit canned.
A lot of them will.
And you're going to have a lot of non-liberal people who are like, I like what's going on.
Maybe I'll, maybe I'll go work for ICE, or maybe I'll go work for the State Department.
Maybe I'll get, yeah.
They're even buying out the C, you know, somebody who's like, well, they're not serious until they go after the CIA.
Okay, there you go.
Boom.
You had your buyout offers for all the CIA agents.
And they're talking, and when you read the tea leaves, they're talking about reorienting toward China and toward immigration and towards narco-trafficking and terrorism, which a serious country would reorient toward China as a significant threat.
I'm not out there banging drums about the Chikoms.
There's got to be a way for cooler heads to prevail and not go to World War III against China.
And I haven't seen any evidence.
Yeah, Trump allowed some Ukraine aid and weapons to go through.
He's got negotiations are probably apparently going to meet with Putin in a couple of weeks and then maybe try to get this thing wrapped up April 20th.
I doubt it.
I don't think Putin should take a shitty deal while the steamroller is starting to happen there.
I think he'd be foolish to take it unless he really does want to wrap it up and he believes that he can trust the United States for the first time ever in his 25 years in office.
Fascinating time to be alive for sure.
It's the most interesting closest we've come to is something happening.
Yes.
And something ever happened.
Sam doesn't know what to do.
Yeah.
As soon as we end this show, I'm going to go to Wall Street Journal.
I'm going to go check the news and there's going to be something new.
And Sam hadn't even seen the, I call it the anti-Christian EOIC.
Eradicating anti-Christian bias.
Now, apparently, there's some kooky female pastor that's like Trump's spiritual advisor, somebody, you know, immediately.
Okay, so that's the black guy that's like, oh, hallelujah, make America great.
The best part of it.
Chucking and jiving at the inauguration.
Thank you for the live entertainment, whoever that guy was.
Lively entertainment.
Yep.
Oh, they even have something in here about radical traditionalist Catholics talking about the FBI.
Go back to sleep, Sam.
Trump can do no wrong.
There you go.
He tickled your nuts.
But I mean, yeah, hey, sometimes some of this is words.
Some of this is, you know, fluff and virtue signaling or whatever.
And yeah, there's fluff.
Cute cat.
Anyway, what do you think, Jen?
Should we just stick to the politics hour and wrap it here?
I'm a little, it's after midnight here already.
I think this is a good enough isolated thing.
I do too, actually.
I don't know if I have the gas to go talk about families and stuff as much as I would love to.
So maybe, maybe next time, maybe next week.
Yeah, maybe we could have a show in a week.
Let's do a show in a week and maybe try to resist the temptation to pontificate about politics.
probably a lot can happen in a week oh yeah that can happen in a week oh my goodness Oh, all these Gazans are showing up in my neighborhood already.
What the hell is going on?
All these gays have been thrown out of helicopters.
Hey, you don't know.
Yeah.
Oh, we didn't really talk about Gaza too much.
And the whole idea of like, do you care about Gaza?
Is Gaza important to you?
Yes and no.
Go ahead.
Low priority.
Yeah, well, low priority.
Yes and no.
I mean, the justice of it, of course, it's, I understand from my point of view as a white nationalist, I, you know, how much do I feel for those people?
Yeah, I suppose not too much, but on the other hand, you see pictures and things of the people suffering.
If you're a human being, you cannot help, but you know, have some compassion and things like that.
It is a real tragedy.
What has happened over there uh, it's.
You cannot help but have sympathy for them.
Um certainly uh, you know, it's it's.
It's so tone deaf to to, to think of in terms of uh history right, how many times have people tried to oh, we're going to go over there and we're going to take the land and we're going to occupy it.
Oh, why so that?
So that uh the the, not only the, the Gazans or Palestinians become your enemy.
But even i'm thinking like the British Mandate right, where you had Jewish terrorists killing those guys, and uh, it's just, it just sounds so bad.
Like oh, so the Jews leveled it and blew everything up and the United States is going to go there and build it and make it nice, and then what?
You know, it's just, it sounds so bad.
But I remember one guy's uh, one of one of our guys uh, posts.
He said, well, in light of all the other things, if Palestinians don't have Gaza or something, but we have a more secure country and we deport a lot of these uh, aliens and everything like that.
Hey uh, you know the the writer of that post is okay with that.
In a certain sense, I agree.
Um, and then he got gangpiled by the one guy saying, well, you're not a white nationalist, you're not, you know, pure enough on opposing Israeli expansionism and the Middle East and the American uh, you know, basically being an accomplice to that which which it is, of course yeah well absolutely, it would be not even be possible without the United States uh, bankrolling it and supplying the weapons and everything yeah so yeah uh, it's just not that simple, I suppose.
Um yeah, I care yeah, it's like.
It's like uh uh, Rwandan genocide, did I care about it?
Or would I care about it today?
I certainly wouldn't be happy that people were getting slaughtered, whether they're pygmies or, you know bands, whatever it is or whatever.
Yeah uh, is it a vital national interest?
No no um, the strip of land in Gaza is technically not a vital national interest.
It's a vital interest on principle yes, and in opposition, Jews want it, so I don't want them to have it.
Yeah, and all right, that's the extent of it.
Yeah, and like nobody, not a single person on earth has been surprised that Trump approved uh, you know, more weapons.
And well, everyone was surprised at this Kakamimi scheme for Gaza.
Um, but time is going to tell on that.
Yeah, I I feel horrible for them.
They are not at the top of my uh priority list.
When it comes, I would make the deal to have a better whiter stronger, safer country, even if it meant that I didn't get what I wanted out of U.s Middle East foreign policy, insofar as we weren't going to war or whatever.
Uh, but I don't.
I I think the opposition is so massive and the optics literal optics of well, not literal optics, you know what I mean the symbolism of the United States going in there to kick out those people, to build a freaking, you know, Monte Carlo just south of Israel after Israel just destroyed it is so grotesque that I don't think it has legs.
Yeah.
I can't imagine it happening, but that doesn't mean I can't be wrong.
But I, yeah, it just, that doesn't seem even possible.
Yep.
Anyway, gents, I hope I did not come across too preachy.
I'm going to have some egg on my face in the future for being enthusiastic in this moment, but I also have some egg on my face right now because things have not gone as I expected them to.
So we're reorienting.
We're presented with new information and we're trying to give the best advice and the best analysis that we can with the information that we have.
You know, painful, but kind of looking from the outside, looking in and just trying to call it as you see it, but is clearly a different beast from the first term without a doubt, warts and all.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And that's all we got.
We're going to, we're going to stick with that this week and get the heck out of here and get a good night's sleep.
I've had like half a gallon of iced tea because I do, you know, I do have a drinking problem.
I am always drinking when I'm driving, when I'm, you know, just water, energy drinks, coffee, you name it.
Tons of tons of unsettled iced tea.
Yes.
No, no motor oil.
I did find out that my local garage will take the massive bucket of motor oil that I have, not from changing the oil on my cars all the time.
I've done that a few times, but from the UTV that always, I just stuck with it.
She's like, yeah, we'll take it because they have an oil furnace out back.
They use it to heat the shop, which I thought was pretty cool.
They're not just recycling it or dumping it in the stream.
Anyway, thank you, Sammy Baby.
I don't think we were too preachy.
And I certainly didn't like twist your guys's arm.
We didn't have a strategy session to come up with a new approach on all this stuff.
I think this is all common sense, rational ways to respond to the world.
It is fascinating.
There's so much going on.
And if you're like me, you certainly love hearing liberals cry and rail against things.
It's just something very, very USAID.
Very satisfying about seeing them squirm and reach and strive and everything like that.
So I thought it was a fun discussion.
It is something ephemeral, right?
Because we may feel in a week or a month or six months like how naive we were, you know, or think of all the maybe really horrible things that might even happen, you know, and stuff like that.
Or maybe wonderful things are going to happen.
Who knows?
But it's possible.
Yeah.
So, but I thought it was a good discussion.
I wanted to quickly mention to listeners.
I sit in and do a show for White Noise Radio now and again.
And it's on Telegram.
We are White Noise Radio All One Word.
You can look it up there.
And it's about music.
It's about nationalist music, especially skinhead music.
And so we do some fun shows there.
I just did one recently.
Check it out.
I was also on the fundamental principle, Dark Enlightenment show.
He's also on Telegram talking about, yeah, Catholicism and Christian identity and all kinds of fun things.
That was a good discussion recently had as well.
So I'm out there trying to do my bit, you know, help out where I can.
Good for you, Sammy Baby.
We are White Noise Radio on Telegram and Fundamental Principle is the podcast.
I know I'm subscribed to both those channels.
I hope white noise radio is not device banned.
And, you know, one other thing I forgot to mention that I did want to add, you know, I don't talk too much about my years in Washington, not because I was on the FBI payroll or anything nefarious like that, but because I got so accustomed to just not talking about it under advice, because I am still not completely out of the woods.
But I did have a lot of experience with USAID over my career in Washington, sometimes intense, sometimes not.
I did not, I was not privy to anything nefarious, like overtly leftist political party funding, certainly nothing involving like narcotics or anything like that.
But I did find it to be an entire bureaucratic, you know, it's not the heart of the beast.
It's like a tentacle of the beast.
And the amount of money that they spent versus the difference that they made in some of these countries was way out of whack.
And it was far more a contractor enrichment program, you know, consultants and all the, you know, whether big or small that were getting very, very wealthy off of USAID contracts to do some good, some bad, some dubious work overseas.
So I Sayonara, there were some good people there that I actually genuinely liked and I respected and they were trying to do the good thing.
I didn't see any, you know, hand rubbing pornography pushers, Guatemalan tranny story time pushers, although I have no doubt that those things existed.
I just didn't see it with my own.
It was mostly all energy and telecom stuff that I was privy to that was borderline justifiable, but in practice was not particularly a good use of taxpayer, most certainly not our responsibility.
And that if you're going to take it on as your responsibility, the dollars spent to efficacy was way out of whack.
I'll leave it at that.
Rolito, pleasure.
Do you think we went too soft on the skunks?
You want to open up with double barrels or you just give them one time?
Okay.
No, it's fine.
Cause a lot of these people, like they don't, they're not like there are spurgs that should not be here that need to be driven out.
And a lot of these guys, they're like, you remember that scene in airplane when I go, calm down.
And then there's just like the big row of the people that are like shaking the woman and like slapping her because she's hysterical.
Like that's, that's, that's how I see it.
Like these guys, they just need, they need a reality check.
Like not everything needs to be doom and gloom.
And you can, you can like a thing that does benefit you without thinking in the terms of what would be the worst possible outcome for this good thing happening.
So it's, it's less that like these people need to be like punished, but they just, they need things to be put in perspective because bad things are going to happen inevitably.
But if you, if your ideal outcome is the worst case scenario, you know, go in, go under.
Like we are we're dealing with a lot of like crazy crap.
Yep.
And there's crazy people in our ranks.
And hey, I'm glad some of them keep us grounded.
Like, hello, coach, do you remember who you're dealing with or whatever?
But it also reminds me of the Russia-Ukraine stuff from two years ago, where it was just an endless stream of either like Putin is Jew, baby slaughterer, Chechens will be raping Ukrainian women versus like, you know, I think more common sense realpolitik analysis that was like, no, we crossed Russia's red line and now the consequences are being paid and Ukrainians are being slaughtered, you know, just the endless debate or whatever.
And I don't know if all those Ukraine guys went to volunteer are now six feet under or they just got tired of it.
I haven't had to ban anybody in a really long time, but there was that period where it was just pure, pure vitriol from what seemed to be very nasty people, not to mention the ones who like spammed gay porn because they loved Ukraine so much.
You know, that's, that's, that's how you're doing.
Look at this penis.
That will show you why you're wrong.
Ah, you saw penis.
That's why I'm right.
Here's this picture of a Russian soldier with his nuts blown off.
How does that make you feel?
I don't know, disgusted, not liking you.
I'm more curious why you had that on your phone at the ready.
That's how I feel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your collection of war gore porn might be a sign that you are not crazy.
Very weird.
Stay healthy out there, guys.
Thanks for indulging us in a very lengthy.
What are we at?
Only an hour and a half.
This is not even.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
Well, it's an hour and a half without a break.
That's good for us.
Almost 44.
Good lord.
Time to hang up the cleats on life.
Just kidding.
All right, guys.
Yeah.
We're working our way through February.
I want to hear some little romantic tales.
Sam sent me a tastefully sexy photo.
No homo.
Hey, Sam's, Sam's not alone this year.
It was a very happy photo.
I saw it and I thought, oh, that looks nice.
I wish I had a Sybaris near me.
All right, guys.
We love you.
We'll talk to you next week.
And let me, I'm going to peruse my music collection after this as I'm want to do.
And if I can't find anything good, I'll kick it over to Sam or Rolo.