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As we approach the first presidential debate and perhaps one of the last national elections this November, the TQ, the Trump question, remains relevant.
Love him or hate him, another four years of Biden, Kamala, or Gavin Newsom overseeing our destruction is a very jagged pill to swallow.
But I wanted to take this opportunity at the top of the show to remind you all of the myriad mistakes, mendacity, and madness that occurred during Trump's first term.
Following his seemingly miraculous upset victory, he immediately started appointing cucks, empty suits, and GOP Inc. functionaries like Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer, and Johnny DiStefano to important slots.
After a forceful inauguration speech, he ultimately allowed hundreds of rioting Antifa who trashed DC that day to get off scot-free.
Shortly thereafter, he threw General Flynn under the bus at the first sign of Russia Gate trouble, chumming the water for what was to come.
He promised jobs to his most loyal volunteers, donors, and supporters through a site called greatagain.gov.
Thousands applied, yours truly included.
It was later claimed that all applications were simply lost.
Almost certainly they were deliberately destroyed, ensuring further swamp staffing.
He campaigned to glorious chance of lock her up and famously dropped the you'd be in jail quip to Hillary Clinton's face.
Suddenly upon getting into office, he decided the poor old hag had been through enough.
He ordered missile strikes against Assad Syria on the most specious chemical weapons claims, proving he could be manipulated by bogused intel just like the rest of them.
This was also the first time that galaxy brain 4D chess pontificators started to really practice their trade.
The copes came hot and heavy in those days.
Around this time, the QAnon SYOP garbage began to spread like wildfire, keeping millions of suckers who otherwise might start to smell a rat on the hook.
The signature public policy of his first two years and with Republican control of Congress was Paul Ryan's tax cuts, not building a wall nor deporting them all, which was unquestionably the single most important factor in his election.
Remember those Petyumkin wall prototypes?
He appointed Jeff Sessions to be his attorney general when he probably should have named him as vice president instead of neocon Mike Pence.
Sessions then appointed the special counsel in a shockingly dumb move which undermined half the term.
He further appointed blatant neocons like Nikki Haley, John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, and Elliot Abrams to his administration.
He trashed the nuclear deal with Iran and failed to deliver on improved relations with Russia.
He appointed three Supreme Court justices who enabled the overturn of Roe v. Wade, true, but all three of those pale in comparison to two superior Republican justices, Thomas and Alito, who were oddly appointed by Pappy Bush and W, respectively.
Trump allowed the oily Jew-Shiksha duo of Javanka to run rampant his entire term.
It's probably no coincidence that he never pardoned Edward Snowden, saw Julian Assange further persecuted, and failed to declassify the Kennedy assassination files as promised.
He gave some pleasing off-the-cuff comments about Charlottesville a few days after the rally, and then he chucked Steve Bannon out of the White House and let his Justice Department go after the Ram guys while letting Antifa off scot-free again.
He didn't withdraw from Afghanistan.
He deferred to the neocons and punted that decision to Biden, who actually made the right one.
He kept our troops in Syria and South Korea despite threats to do the right thing.
But he did help legalize butt stuff and Botswana.
Following the loss of the House in the 2018 midterms, he inexplicably made letting convicted criminals out of prison earlier his signature pivot, not ending birthright citizenship, which he had teased before the midterms.
He tweeted full support for the illegal alien anchor babies under DACA, and DACA is still alive.
You might also remember the State of the Union, where he promised the biggest legal immigration numbers ever.
He did nothing about online censorship, affirmative action.
And how could we forget the endless crowing about black, Hispanic, and Asian unemployment numbers?
He blew Obama's deficit and debt spending records out of the water even before COVID.
He caved on the government shutdown, which was ostensibly about funding his signature project, the Border Wall.
He moved the U.S. Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
He pushed the Abraham Accords to pacify Israel's potential foes.
Functionally, he was America's first Jewish president.
He proved to possibly be the most blustering and ineffectual president in history amidst the BLM race riots of 2020.
Never forget the law and order tweet storm.
He oversaw Fauci mandates, shutdowns, and more after refusing to halt Chinese flights to the U.S. in the early days of the outbreak.
He still crows about the garbage vacc to this day.
In his lame duck, he had IRGC General Soleimani assassinated in yet another bloody gift to Israel.
And never forget the millions he grifted for stop the steal, which did not, in fact, stop the steal.
And perhaps most ignonously, he clearly rabble-roused his loyal supporters into storming the Capitol, only to retreat to the White House, enjoy the spectacle on TV, then denounce them, then leave them to rot in jails for years in many cases, while pardoning shysters, rappers, and assorted other miscreants in his last days in office.
And now, almost four years later, he finds himself a convicted felon because he just had to get a taste of that horse-faced, fake-boobed porn star while his gorgeous wife was recovering from childbirth and used his sleazy Jewish lawyer to deliver the hush money payments.
All that said, in this fallen country, Trump could still be the better choice this November.
And that's why we are honored, among other reasons, to welcome not just a lukewarm supporter of Trump's, but also one of our greatest living writers in the cause, an absolute stalwart for over a decade, and also a kind and loving father.
So, Mr. Producer, let's go.
Welcome, everyone, to Full House, the world's least political show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam, except this week.
I am your summer solstice appreciating host, Coach Finstock, back with another hour, maybe two, of the finest commentary this side of the South Branch of the Potomac River.
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And with that, finally, let's get Kraken and meet our panel.
First up, he too applied to greatagain.gov seeking the position of one 1.0 community outreach manager.
But sadly, his papers were lost in the works too.
Sam, welcome back, buddy.
Yeah, how about that?
Boy, it's good points.
There's a good set of reminders and refreshing there, just in case anybody has some kind of delusions about this guy.
My goodness.
Yeah.
Well, hey, we're going to give our special guest a chance to defend him or not defend him.
You know, I'm not setting him up to be a foil, but he follows politics way more closely than we do.
He writes about it for a living.
So I'm dying to hear what he has to say.
As of right now, Sam, come November, you're just going to stay home?
You're going to go Trump or you're going to be a prankster and vote for Biden.
Well, I certainly would never vote for Biden.
I don't know.
We'll see how I'm feeling when November rolls around, I suppose.
But yeah, being off those few weeks, we missed a lot of stuff.
Father's Day.
I know.
All that came and went.
And I hope you had a good Father's Day.
I don't know if we'll get into that later, but it was certainly a special, it's always a special day, you know, for our guys.
Happy Father's Day to our special guest and all of our audience.
Let's see if we can get to it in the second half.
Okay, good.
Welcome back, brother.
Next up, he tends to stay mute in the first half and then let it rip in the second.
I don't know if he's going to flip it this week, but our trusty producer, Rolo, welcome back.
Thank you.
I had a joke prepared for how long it's been, but it's been so long that I forgot it.
Okay, good.
Didn't want to hear it anyway.
If you think of it, go ahead, second half.
He's giving me the demon eyes, the glowing eyes.
All right.
Finally, our more patient special guest than anybody else.
That was my longest opening monologue probably ever.
His writing was as formative in waking me up than perhaps anyone else.
He is an ink stained king, a longtime contributor to V-Dare, American Renaissance, and many other outlets.
He's the author of Waking Up from the American Dream and Conservatism Inc., and he's my good pal, Greg Hood.
Long overdue.
Welcome to Full House, buddy.
Good to be here, guys.
Yeah, about time.
I've been on here.
Yeah.
I have been following you, obviously, for years.
You know, I was a bit of a fanboy back in the day.
I think it was your letter.
But not anymore.
Well, you know, we know each other now.
So it didn't seem for me to flatter you too much.
But it was your letter to white GOP males or white conservative males after Romney lost that for me, I was like, oh, man, you know, it just opened up a new door for me.
So you son of a bitch, it's all your fault.
Yeah, I know.
I think about that sometimes.
I'm kidding, big guy.
Hey, happy to have you on.
First time, lay it on us.
What's your ethnicity, your religion, and your fatherhood status, please?
Irish, Italian, German, father of two boys, third coming in September, religion pagan, but a certain fondness for Holy Mother Church.
So very, very lapsed Catholic, I suppose you could say.
Copy.
I hate practicing pagan.
And I'm a South Jersey boy.
You consider yourself from North Jersey?
I mean, I'm from North Jersey.
Yeah, all right.
I mean, that's where the accent in the Italian comes from.
Sure thing.
I always look down on North Jersey.
Yeah, you guys are all.
Well, yeah, everybody looks down on North Jersey.
North Jersey looks down on North Jersey.
North Jersey looks down on South Jersey.
Anyway, let's get cracking here, Mr. Hood.
And I don't want to put any words in your mouth.
I put you somewhat on the back foot by rattling off all of just some or many, whatever.
I don't know if it's most of Trump's worst hits from the first term.
There obviously was good stuff there too.
When I saw you back in the fall, you and I were basically on the same page that it's worth supporting him, warts and all.
I have since seen so much bad stuff out of his mouth or out of his camp, the VEP candidates, et cetera, that I can't even do cynical support anymore.
But I wanted to give you a chance to lay out your thinking on him, what we should do, support him, if not, however you see fit.
Well, forget what he did in the first term.
Let's just think about what just happened today, where he said he would staple a green card to anybody who graduated from college, even a junior college, I think was his term.
So even if you had one of these fake degree mills, that's enough to let.
I mean, so already we're talking about expanding essentially H-1B immigration to new heights.
And of course, that doesn't even get into foreign policy, which I think is the biggest thing that's getting people upset on the hard right right now.
Because clearly, one of the big reasons that so many people supported him in 16 is they thought Donald Trump was essentially the peace candidate.
But there's always been a certain tension because Trump is always the candidate of the America first, the paleoconservative remnant, the original alt-right, which to be clear, I mean, what the alt-right was about originally back in 2013, it was opposition to George W. Bush and the Iraq War.
I mean, that's where that grouping came from.
And I know this because the guy who first wrote on alternative right.com was me and, you know, Richard Host, whoever that is, whatever name is.
He goes underdown.
Like those two.
Yeah.
We talked about foreign policy.
Now, but Trump is also the candidate of kind of older boomer Americans who want America to be strong, whatever that means.
And if we look at when Biden's decline really started, it was during the disastrous pullout from Afghanistan, a policy that many of us probably wish happened years before.
Certainly maybe problems with how it was done, but not the substance of the larger policy.
But for most Americans, and especially for people on the right, that's when they really started to hate the guy.
I mean, I just drove halfway across the country, and I'm still seeing signs in neighborhoods around America blasting Biden for the Afghanistan pullout and gifting helicopters to the Taliban.
Yeah, and that's one of those really scratch your heads.
You would have thought that the anti-war sentiment and mentality would have seeped into those people.
I actually thought that Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal speech was his, it was the first time I listened to him where I said, wow, I'm actually kind of proud of that guy in that moment, cynicism at all, because I thought he was honest and forceful in that.
And, you know, Obama was thinking about taking troops out.
He was persuaded to keep them in.
And I remember Trump dropped a Moab on Afghanistan at some point early in his early in his term.
He kept him in there and he had all promises, pulling out of Syria, especially toward the end.
He never fulfilled it.
Now, if I recall, Greg, I think recently you tweeted, don't care, still voting for Trump.
And obviously, you're an arch immigration patriot.
So even with the stapling green cards to every Indian who comes over here for a crappy diploma mill piece of paper, as of right now, you're still planning on voting for Trump.
I would say, yeah, I would think that I'm more invested in this one than I was in 2020.
2020, frankly, I didn't care.
I thought it was over election night.
I never bought any of the stop the steal stuff.
When he lost, I just went to sleep and that was the end of it.
But for that reason, it's worth taking a look at this.
We already kind of had this debate in real time and know how it plays out.
I mean, we all remember the 5% meme, you know, the 5% of Trump supporters from 16 who stayed home in 2020.
And you saw a lot of people online saying, I am part of the 5%.
I'm part of the people who switched over to Biden.
By withholding our votes, we've made ourselves more powerful.
And now we're going to be an independent constituency.
Maybe the left will appeal to us.
And occasionally, you'd have people saying, Well, Gavin Newsom is secretly our guy, and he's going to do this, that, and the other thing.
Well, we've seen this.
We've run the experiment, it's already happened.
What was gained?
I mean, that's not me being rhetorical.
I mean, that's a serious question.
What was gained?
Because you talked about the white nationalist movement of white men and Republicans.
I wrote that the night Romney lost, and I had written something a few weeks before basically saying Romney must lose.
So I'm not one of these people who says, Well, vote for the lesser evil, or we have to support the Republicans or whoever's quote unquote on the right, regardless, and then try to fight within the GOP.
But I do think that with Trump and with what's happened since 2016, we are in a different place because I think a lot of people really need to think hard about where we were in 2013, the utter irrelevance of what we were talking about.
And this is at a time when we had complete free speech, when the very idea that the government or private business would ever restrict free speech was unfathomable because free speech was fundamental to what it meant to be an American.
The idea that you would lose your bank account, the idea that Facebook or any of these companies would ever discriminate against you, that it was crazy.
And forget the idea that the government would ever do anything.
In fact, you had all these tech CEOs at the time saying we will never restrict free speech.
Amazon went to the mat, went to the mat, stood up against a huge media campaign for weeks because they said it was that important that they have the right to sell a book that informed people with how to get away with sexually abusing children.
That's how absolute is the stance on free speech they once had.
Now you just take it for granted that if a blog with 100 people doesn't like a book, it's going to get banned.
And you're probably going to lose your bank account too.
So we risk returning to total irrelevance and also at a time when all the megaphones are taken away.
Now, there's an argument that, and this is something I'm thinking about over the last couple of days and probably write something on.
There's an argument that if Trump wins, he's going to let a lot of people go back to sleep.
He's going to let a lot of people buy back into the system.
He's going to let a lot of people give legitimacy to this system again.
And furthermore, that this is why they're quote unquote letting him win, right?
And also, if you believe that the Israel lobby is the number one force in American politics and your number one issue from that perspective is what's best for the Jewish state.
Well, who's better, Trump or Biden?
The answer is obviously Trump.
And so they're going to put their weight behind him.
I don't think it's coincidence that Nikki Haley finally gave up her opposition to Trump only after October 7th.
And that was when she said, I will definitely be supporting Trump.
And that's when Trump said, she will definitely have a part of my team in some level.
All that said, we have to consider the possibility here that sometimes you just lose.
Sometimes you're just rendered irrelevant.
Sometimes you withhold your support and deny your legitimacy and nobody cares and nobody notices and power does what it wants anyway.
I don't think the 5% gained anything in 2020.
I don't think it was a bad stance from an ideological point of view.
I don't think that there wasn't an intellectual case from it.
But I mean, I'd like to ask you guys, again, not being rhetorical, what was actually gained from doing that?
Very fair question.
And of course, you're familiar with the worse is better argument.
I do not give much credence at all to that.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.
That's the honest answer.
I think, yeah, it's like the idea.
I just had this craw that I had to scratch if that's a thing.
But, you know, the idea that, oh, if it gets worse, then people will be radicalized and agitated and more invested in networking and preparing and all the rest of it.
And I, you know, unless it gets to a point where people are starving and literally they're, you know, everyone's starting to get a knock on the door and your neighbors, et cetera.
It's you're just welcoming pain now for a promise of future activation, which is a pretty painful gamble to make.
And I don't actually want, you know, especially when you have kids, I don't actually want more refugees in my town or even in Los Angeles or San Francisco, frankly, because it just makes things harder long term.
But to your original question, and I'll let Sam and Rolo weigh in on this.
What, you know, what did we gain under Biden?
And I'm sure some of our old contacts have opinions on this, but we did get a ton of free money during COVID, way more than we would have during Trump.
I don't know if you recall those days, but I mean, there was simulus checks, unemployment out the wazoo, and lots of things, which of course kicked off the inflation that everybody is paying for.
Now we got the Afghanistan.
It should be noted, though.
Go ahead, please.
I do want to interrupt here.
One thing I will say about Trump, and to me, this is why he actually lost the election.
And I think he did actually lose.
I think the reason he actually lost the election is just before in October, if you remember, he wanted to give Americans another $2,000 check.
And it was Mitch McConnell who said no and shut down the traditional limited government stuff.
And then, of course, after the election, they ended up spending a lot more money anyway.
Now, to me, I think the 2020 election, the GOP wanted him out too.
But the question is, Trump is now a party guy again.
He hasn't learned anything from any of this.
But it appears that I think we would have gotten that same amount of money anyway.
I mean, that's probably what we talked about in the fall, or maybe what I said is that it's just not possible for him to not have been radicalized by them raiding his Florida home by arresting all of his supporters by bringing umpteen felony charges against him.
And yet, to judge by who he's talking about for his administration and his policies, et cetera, he seems to be playing the systems.
It could be that he's so desperate to get back into office that he, you know, he'll play ball.
And they're like, you know, Miriam Adelson will give him $100 million if he promises a greater Israel.
And, you know, you can get back into office.
You can pardon yourself and whoever you want to, but you're still going to play ball with us on our priorities.
Rolo, you're going next.
And to immediately answer your question, Greg, what we got was the worst open border probably in American history.
And God knows what the number is now.
You probably know it better than me, but millions upon millions of migrants, not just crossing over the border and getting detained and holed up somewhere in the South, but getting bussed all over the country, flown all over the country.
Just the other day, I was in my local, it's probably, it's probably my closest Walmart, but I don't go to it anymore for different reasons.
And it's normally 90 to 95% working class rural white Americans.
And I had to stop in there on a Saturday morning and it was crawling with half of the African subcontinent, actual Africans in the open sandals, the vacant eyes, the sort of lazy shuffle.
And I was angry and I wanted to puke.
And you can't argue that Trump would be worse on immigration than Biden unless you buy that green card stuff.
Rolo, go ahead.
I've gone in long enough.
Well, I just had a random thought because in 2016, Trump was essentially insinuating that he was going to put like based people in positions of power.
Not based, but relatively considering.
And then Chris Kovac is great.
Still is great.
He tried.
And then now he's talking about the worst people.
And one thing we can say about Trump is consistently he is a liar.
So maybe what if he's lying about that?
And he's going to make Alexander.
Like the most compelling argument I've heard so far.
Like, I give you full credit for that.
And we're back on board the Trump turn.
Yeah, it's like the memento meme: believe his lies or don't believe his lies.
You know, either way.
Believe that he's lying.
Sure.
I don't think he has a single conviction in his.
I think his sole conviction is what is good for him and his reputation.
In all fairness, I think that's every major player in politics.
Except for Tom Massey.
Right.
He's our golden boy.
Tom Massey's nothing to write home about on immigration, though.
And the thing is, with Trump, I mean, one thing we should say is, you know, well, he's just doing this for money.
He's just doing this for attention.
I would be, I'm certain this happened in 2016, 2015, that if he had just gone away, he would still have his businesses.
He wouldn't be dealing with all of these legal things.
Certainly he'd stay in New York, all these investigations that supposedly are over things that happened years before.
None of these things would be happening.
And I would not be shocked if somebody had not either subtly or directly told him: look, if you just go away, a lot of these legal troubles are going to go away too.
I mean, he is not benefiting this on a personal level, all the things that he's going through.
I thought the most one of the few times he was totally honest when he was at this one campaign rally, I think in Pennsylvania or something, and he saw some guy with a truck in the background.
He's like, boy, I would love to just go in that truck and drive away.
Just never come back.
You never see me again.
I had such a great life.
I could just go back to that.
You never see me again.
I think that was like probably the time he's told the most truth in the last like 10 years.
A momentary insight into his psychology.
Sam, any quick thoughts here?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Certainly he is an opportunist.
I don't think he believes in anything.
He sees that at least at one time, people like us did have some, there was some ascendancy, and there definitely was some spark that he was drawing on there.
As far as what did we gain from him or what, if anything, was good about him.
A couple of things I would answer, not to be carrying water for this guy, but the economy is a very emotional, emotionally driven thing.
Visceral for people.
Yeah.
And we can all remember, at least I can remember during the Obama eight years, how stagnant, in fact, we had terms like that, stagflation.
And that, you know, no matter what, the economy was not growing.
We certainly saw all that.
And you know as well that any kind of government impetus, any kind of new program or any kind of planning to cause some growth or excitement, that takes many, many years to pan out.
But when Trump was elected, the economy turned around really like on a dime because, like I'm saying, you know, firsthand, Sam.
Yes, the economy is emotional.
And the fact that people believe, whether it's founded or not, that this was going to usher in a government that was business friendly and would let people grow businesses and would be more tax friendly and things like that.
Regardless how true or not true all that was, as I say, it's an emotional response.
And you saw the economy strongly turn around.
Sure.
So I would say that's one thing.
So, if Trump is elected again, it's like giving the signal to people who are in business: hey, it's time to make your moves.
It's time to expand and grow.
The other thing is during Trump, I remember reading about that he dismantled all of this like tracking conservative groups or right-wing groups or whatever,
that resources were just not allocated for the FBI to be doing those types of things, as we saw that they were done under Obama, where they were, you know, literally interfering and causing conservative or right-wing groups to be unable to organize or to hamper them financially and things like that.
So, those are a few things that would be good.
That's a really important point.
That one specifically.
Very relevant to us.
Especially for guys like us and everything.
So, you know, those are a couple points there.
But I suppose the bigger point, it is interesting to have this discussion.
But if people say, oh, well, what next?
We vote for Biden as a protest.
We vote for Trump.
What should we do?
The protest vote, protest vote that we do or don't have or whatever.
I think the real lesson learned or the takeaway from that is we have to focus on what we are doing, which is building our communities, building our outreach to one another.
Look at here on this call.
We have people from four different areas of the country entirely.
And, you know, we're able to reach out in ways with this internet that 25 or 30 or 40 years ago, white nationalists like us just, it was not even a tool they had.
So I think if what is there to do, to do is to do the things we are doing, which are these little grassroots groups that are trying to grow, at least expand, create bonds with each other and network and talk with each other.
And from that, maybe someday we have enough power to seize something for ourselves.
Sure.
Rolo had his hand up and then I got one for you, Greg.
Also, remember, Biden campaigned on closing the Dakota pipeline.
And then just like the day he went into office, gas immediately went up and it didn't go up by like four cents.
It went up by like $2 or something.
Yeah, remember there was a cyber increase.
Supposedly a cyber attack on a pipeline facility and it jumped 50 cents or 75 cents and then it never came down even after they solved that problem.
It was remarkable.
And Sam's point about the economy, I think, makes, you know, people vote with their pocketbooks and like it or not, the gas price is the most transparent price all across the country.
And people make serious judgment about how things are going, especially at a time when we are like the world's largest oil producer right now, or close to it.
Yeah, go ahead.
Well, we all have cars.
We all need gas for our country.
Especially in red rural America.
Yeah, go ahead, Carlo.
Yeah, and make no mistake about it.
The president doesn't impact whether they're going to war or not.
You're going to get a war.
They're taking that much agency away from him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You think this pant-shitting retard Biden is saying, calling anybody to war?
Or do you think the pants-shitting retard Biden is saying, like, hey, now we can't go to war now?
We have starving children to feed that.
No, the guy only cares about how many children are delivered to his lair at night.
Well, the funny thing is, I remember Afghanistan then.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the system wanted them to stay in Afghanistan.
Biden famously was against the bin Laden raid, if I recall correctly.
Thought that was a gamble not worth taking.
He's a little more conservative when it comes to foreign policy adventurism, I think.
I do think that I do want to make this one point.
Please get it.
I want to challenge you guys because I do have this as a question because I see this getting floated all the time.
What did white nationalists, pro-whites, whatever you want to call people, what did we get from Trump losing because he betrayed us?
If anything, that's the question.
Because if the answer is nothing, then I don't see why doing it again in 2024 is going to help us.
I have an answer from my standpoint: we have to pay more as far as just our livelihoods because we are not multi-millionaires.
So that increase of gas and food, that hurts us more because we're normal people that aren't just sucked into pornography and football, like where we can just tune out everything.
We do have lives to live and we do need to meet up with each other and we do need to establish bonds and connections.
So that's why I say we did lose that.
Well, what I would say that we gained, possibly, is there perhaps were a few people that maybe were Trump supporters, but when they saw the betrayal and the fake nature of everything, maybe they were able to take the next step to come where we are or closer to our position.
So those would be gains that came from it.
But it is funny if you think about it.
Those the people, the Trump supporters, the diehard Trump MAGA people, if you talk to these people, like people at work who are maybe really conservative, but they're not, you know, like principled right-wingers, they forgot that any of that even happened.
You have to remind them of that.
When they start talking big about Trump, you say, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.
Don't you remember all the betrayals and all everything that happened about January 6th and all that?
They dialogue, Sam.
Yeah, they want to act like that didn't even happen.
They, they, you know, all that stuff to like sheepishly, well, yeah, that wasn't good.
Yeah, but Trump, you know, like two seconds later, they'll be talking about how great the guy is.
So it is, it's a weird phenomenon for sure.
There's a total, total cult built up around it.
Yes.
Yes.
Greg, we have, we'll have a few thousand ears on this one, maybe a few more with you being the special guest.
Is it your position that you think that every white nationalist in America should vote for Trump in November because he's the lesser two evils because we stand to benefit more from him getting back in than the alternative?
My issue is that I think we should be asking ourselves why nobody gives a well, I was about to say family show, so I restrained myself.
Why nobody cares what white nationals vote for?
I mean, look, for example, AFPAC just ended, right?
And one of the headlines the media was going nuts about is David Duke showed up.
As far as I know, he wasn't like invited or a VIP or anything like that, but he just showed up to this outdoor thing they were doing.
And everybody's, oh, David Duke, David Duke, this is how they try to discredit David Duke.
David Duke got elected to the state legislature a couple decades ago.
Why weren't they?
Were any others ever elected in the state legislature?
Is there a single person in Congress?
Is there a single governor?
Is there a single state legislator anywhere in America who's we could even call pro-white?
Forget even the David Duke level, but just pro-white.
Somebody even remotely close to, say, Jared Taylor.
No.
We had one on the Enid Oklahoma City Council and the best.
Go James Allsup for a little bit.
Yeah, there you go.
I mean, you got a couple people who like get a position here or there, and then they get recalled because every time the media jumps, normal Republicans say how high that's the issue.
I think that to even talk about what WNS are going to do vis-a-vis the presidential election is to miss the point.
The question is, Where are?
What are we trying to achieve here?
Because if we're trying to be a political constituency that actually has a bit of sway, we should be talking about what politicians will be showing up to organizations, what politicians we can get elected, who we can actually inflict political pain on in terms of defeating people who would otherwise win and actually be credited with that.
Because that's not what happened with Trump in 2020.
I mean, for example, the Council of Conservative Citizens back in the 90s, I mean, this is ancient history.
This is before my time.
But this was something that basically every southern politician showed up to, including the Cucks.
And they would show up and they would talk about how great the Confederate flag was.
And they did this because they needed it.
They needed it to win these elections.
Now nobody shows up to these things.
You don't see anybody talking about these sorts of things when it comes to racial issues, when it comes to safe legislatures.
You don't see anybody talking about it at the federal level, certainly.
Until if we can't do that, then, or if that's just impossible, say, then we should also be thinking, well, then what is it that we're actually trying to achieve here?
Now, for me, and I'm not trying to put words in anybody else's mouth here, but I'm not here to save America.
I'm here to get a white homeland.
That's what I am.
I'm a white nationalist.
I don't even, I say being white is more important than being American because being American doesn't mean very much these days.
That's my only problem with the term America first.
But other than that, I totally endorse it, of course.
But to say that what we do vis-a-vis Trump really matters, other than allowing us to make intellectual arguments one way or the other, I think sort of misses how down bad we really are and the danger of our situation and the brutal reality that sometimes worse is just worse.
We were stronger in 2015, 2016 than we are now in terms of as a movement, because we had greater reach.
You talked about having the internet in a way that people didn't have 25 years ago.
Well, we had a lot more of it 10 years ago.
We have less reach now than we did then.
We certainly have people say cancel culture is going away.
Well, that's not really true, is it?
And when you think of like what direction the culture has moved in, maybe it's backed off a bit from where it was in 2020, but it hasn't actually been rolled back in any significant way.
The only thing that I can point to that's any kind of real progress, and even this is just kind of a hypothetical, is you now see people in the conservative movement talking about fighting, say, anti-white discrimination.
That would not have occurred 10 years ago.
You had Trump.
Rhetoric is way more prevalent.
Right.
You have Trump talking about anti-white discrimination.
You have Trump talking about things that he would do in his administration.
But I'll tell you what's not going to have any of those things happen if he loses.
And furthermore, if he loses, they're going to blame it on racism and white nationalism, and they're going to go back to the Republican Party of 2013.
My fear is that without Trump, we go back to the situation we were in in 2013 when I was writing about why we need white nationalism to, frankly, a far smaller audience than we have now.
The difference is that we will lose what few platforms we still have and that our relevance goes away.
They love taking the one thing Because Biden and the Democrats and the left are, they know how to wield power.
They understand that once you have state power, that what you need to do is punish enemies, reward friends.
I mean, how were friends rewarded?
Just a few days ago, everybody's student loan payments, overwhelmingly left-wing voters, even guys who were quite wealthy, just got tens of thousands of dollars in essentially free money.
I want you to think of everyone who's listening.
I want you to think about that.
Every single time you wake up at six in the morning to drive to your job, you didn't get $20,000 in free money, but your enemies did.
Why aren't we getting that kind of customer service?
Now, and you can say, well, we'll withhold our vote for Trump.
But as I said, we already did that.
And things didn't get better for us, either as a movement or as white people or just in general as Americans.
They just got worse on all levels.
So I think to say that we have the power to deny Trump the election and that we'll gain something from it, it's a cope.
It's telling us that we have more power and more influence than we actually have.
And it prevents us from seeing the hard reality, which is that we're a people on the brink of dispossession.
And I'll just say one last thing and then I'll shut up and let you guys go at it.
Think of South Africa.
You know, in the early 1990s, if there was one population on earth that should have known what was coming, it was white South Africans.
But a majority of whites, including overwhelmingly the English speakers and a slightly larger group of the Afrikaans speakers, voted to hand the country over to the ANC.
And one of the most important reasons they did this is because they wanted to stop the hard right.
And then in the years that followed, especially after Mandela left, everything that the hard right said would happen happened.
Have white South Africans become more radicalized?
Has the right wing in South Africa become stronger?
Have even whites.
The people who were radicalized probably left first, I would say.
Well, yeah, but I mean, they went to Britain, they went to Australia.
They didn't form like a right-wing bloc in any of these countries.
The only place in South Africa where you see any kind of positive development is Irania, right?
And why does Irania even exist?
Because they used the power that they had before they handed the country over to get constitutional protection.
So they have at least one little mini homeland, which is sort of a secure home base for them to organize.
We don't even have that.
So if we don't have any kind of institutional power, if we don't have a political base, if we don't have any politicians who are willing to cater to us, if nobody's really running for any of these positions, maybe that's where we should start asking the questions before we start thinking about whether we can elect or deny the White House to somebody we like or don't like.
For sure.
Yeah, it's really tricky because when you look, when you open Twitter today or you look at articles on real clear politics or anything, the stuff that we were talking about and banging drums about 2012, 2014, whatever it was, 2017, is all way more prevalent than it was before.
That's a big problem.
And that is a victory.
It hasn't followed through with policy.
It's sort of the same thing with Israel.
And, you know, look, obviously, American Renaissance is not really known for talking about Israel an awful lot.
But one thing that I think just about everybody will agree on is that nobody in the Republican Party clearly is opposed to ethno-nationalism because Israel is a Jewish state.
It's openly declared as a Jewish state.
They overwhelmingly support it.
The GOP is going to invite Netanyahu back to address Congress.
The only people pushing back against this are like AOC and Democrats and people like that.
But the issue is not ethno-nationalism, clearly.
It's just that they oppose it for whites.
They oppose it for their voting base.
Now we've at least got some stirring among some of the conservative organizations that whites at least have some interest.
You have guys like Charlie Kirk saying that Martin Luther King Day should be abolished.
Now, that would have been unthinkable five years ago when he was talking about Martin Luther King as the great conservative hero.
It's a little bit of a little bit of progress.
It's nothing substantive, but it is something.
It is something.
Or it's, you know, when Jack Posobiak prounces out and throws out white boy summer caps, it's almost like a negroification of white interest, you know, a cheapening of it.
Why is he doing that?
Because he needs to remain relevant with a youthful audience.
So now we can say we do have one bit of power, which is that we have the power to determine who is relevant and who is not.
Think of how many conservative superstars and writers and people like that were basically wiped out from the rise of Trump.
Think of how many people are fading quickly.
I mean, certainly Ben Shapiro is just a laughingstock for anybody under the age of 30.
Bill Crystal was respected back in those days.
Yeah, all those guys in that.
Bill Crystal, David French, Jonah Goldberg.
Jonah Goldberg, when I started out, he was the cool young conservative.
I remember.
I subscribed to him on Twitter.
And keep in mind that 2016 was eight years ago.
So the people that really like the standard Republican old guard are dying out, or their brains are turning to mush, or they just don't have the energy to be involved.
So these guys have to try to channel the younger audience because that's what the younger audience wants.
And that's how they're feeling.
Because those are people that step out of their front door every day and they see the blacks twerking on cars.
They see the Mexicans stealing all of the tires off of every car everywhere.
They see all the Pajites.
They see everything that's terrible.
So they're saying, well, I'm white, therefore it's a bullseye for everyone else.
However, we're kind of in a brutal vice rollo because the old guard is like the boomer Israel flag, you know, pro-war set that's passing into the sunset.
But the younger up-and-coming cohort is, you know, close to 50% white at best.
So they can do the white boy's summer, you know, nod to the subset of that.
But then you see the other ones are just at AFPAC.
But a lot of the non-whites, a lot of the non-whites, though, vote Democrat anyway.
Because the only demographic that really splits the vote between Republican and Democrat is whites.
Very few non-whites vote Republican.
So that's the Republicans are still pandering to the non-whites and Trump is still doing it and rappers.
And yeah.
Yeah.
If I can just say one quick thing about FPAC, just to push back gently on one thing that was said.
Certainly I've seen the same memes with everything else regarding FPAC.
Like, oh, look, the Groypers are all brown.
They're all this.
I mean, and Jared and I had both noted this.
At least, I'll lowball it even.
85%, 90% of the guys at the kind of backup rally that they did after the initial venue was canceled, which was at least a few hundred people.
It was well put together, young white guys.
Yeah.
Wearing suits, nice haircuts, not looking like freaks, not looking like weirdos.
So it's not, you know, it wasn't just like mobs of like subcontinentals.
Well, yeah.
It's like when they show us, they show the most retarded looking white people possible.
Like, look at these inbred Hillbilly Nazis.
It's the same thing.
It's like look for young fat Farrers Whitaker over there in his gay pack and his sideways hat.
Yeah.
I mean, that guy, I mean, I don't know who he is.
I never talked to him or whatever.
But as far as I can piece together, he's some sort of influencer who has a certain online audience and therefore he's at this thing.
The same thing with that Snego guy, the same thing with a bunch of other things.
And it's like, if you're a streamer, which is how Nick has built his audience, and there are these other streamers who are supporting you, it would make sense that you would extend an open hand.
And I don't think I'm putting words in his mouth here, but he's, as far as I can tell, he's pro-white and race realist and believes in HBD, but he's never said, I am a white nationalist.
He says I'm America first, and I want America to keep its white majority.
That's different than, I guess, my position, which would be I just don't care what nons think.
And, you know, if 99% of nons said, you know, I have this political position or I'm this religion or I believe this, like that's what they think or don't think or if they think at all is completely irrelevant to me.
But it's funny.
Yeah.
But that also means, but that being said, you know, if you go to like an American Renaissance conference, say, there are always a scattering of some non-whites there.
And frankly, they tend to be very thoughtful and be there for the right reasons.
They're not there to troll or anything else.
What am I going to do?
Like crack a plate over their head and say like, get out.
Like it's not, it's not the end of the world if a few show up and want to discuss certain issues.
And of course, there is one last thing.
There are a few non-whites at NPI, of course, too.
Well, yeah.
And the other shit, too.
That's all.
They can be there.
Who cares?
But we shouldn't ever pander to them or no, no, but nobody, I don't think they're doing that.
I don't think AFPAC was doing that.
And the thing, too, with American Renaissance, certainly, race realism and white advocacy, as Jared likes to put it, those are two different things.
You don't, there are race realists out there who are not pro-white.
There are pro-whites who may not accept, say, evolutionary reasons for HBD because they might not even believe in evolution.
So those two things tend to overlap a lot, but they don't necessarily overlap.
The Venn diagram is not identical there.
And so there's always going to be a little bit of tension with a lot of these things.
And this is probably true with AFPAC as well, where, yeah, they're pro-white, but he's also talking about Catholicism and he's talking about opposition to abortion.
He's talking about opposition to Israeli-dominated foreign policy and these other things.
So if people were with him on that and they show up, why wouldn't you let them in?
So that's just what it is.
I hear you.
And, you know, I gave Nick a little bit of credit on a previous show simply because he has been going hard on Israel and the JQ.
And I will tip my fedora to anybody who does that in good faith sincerely, obviously, because that is ultimately the root of our problems.
Before I got some other non-political questions for you here, Greg, but the thing about politics, presidential elections, voting is it's personal.
People put so much, not necessarily all this consideration to it, but it's like your personal stamp of approval on somebody.
So it's it's evocative.
It comes down to, you know, if I vote for Trump and then he does these horrible things, is it on me?
Or will my vote matter in a swing state, right?
We discuss maybe only WNs and the important swing states should vote if we buy the argument that it will be worse for our people and harder to get out of this hole under Biden or Kamala or Newsom than it would be under Trump, Warts, and all.
When you were arguing before, it made me think, well, well, if we don't have any power, the only way to show them pain is to stay home and stick it to them.
Some statistician in the campaign office would notice it.
But when it really comes down to, I think for most people listening to this show, well, our guys, I guess, noticed, and I don't know how much the 5% meme, but I mean, there was, there was some stuff back then about the loss of a certain percentage of white votes that Trump suffered, or he didn't see the big turnout in 2020 that he did in 2016.
He gained it with Hispanics and blacks, and it's probably going to be more pronounced this year.
It was a good lesson learned that he gained in all the demographics of the blacks and the Hispanics and this, but he lost with the whites.
And guess what?
He lost the election.
He actually did the bit, right?
Where, like, we've always been saying, campaign, you know, the Steve Saylor principle theory, you know, pander to your base, not to these friends groups that won't vote for you.
And now we're actually facing the scenario whereby Trump could actually, with his newly, you know, felon certificate, he could actually do the bit and win more blacks, Hispanics, and Asians because of crime, because of the tranny stuff, because of the economy.
And we will be even more irrelevant.
But what I wanted to ask was: it's transactional.
Is you know, is it worth me spending my time and putting my stupid little check mark down for a guy if I think that he is going to be totally beholden to Jews, but he is more likely to stop the invasion.
Rolo shaking his head and laughing.
That's because you're not in a swing state.
So it's not worth it because he's getting it anyway.
Correct.
And I'm, I am, as of right now, I'm not voting for Trump.
I can't do it.
I'm too proud.
It disgusts me too much.
Greg is not in a swing state either, but he's probably going to do the bit.
Sam's probably, he's not in a swing state.
I'm Virginia now.
So my bad.
I didn't know you're right.
Look, the thing is, I'm going to vote for local stuff regardless.
And I mean, does it cost me two more seconds to vote for Trump as opposed to giving I'm going to be there anyway?
Does that mean I'm going to knock on doors?
Does that mean I'm going to live and die with the polls?
Does that mean I don't donate money?
Right.
No.
It ain't 2016.
But I think, you know, even if I was doing some sort of local thing and they were sort of like, oh, pass out this literature that has Trump on it.
Fine.
Whatever.
But it's, I'm not going to go crazy with it the way I did in 2016.
All that being said, we talk, I mean, we're doing something that we criticize, but we're doing it right now, which is that, I mean, the reason we're in this mess is because whites don't think collectively and vote as a block.
And we're all acting like 130 IQ Anglos, like doing these little experiments.
Like, well, my principled system, no one cares about your principled stance.
Well, the legitimacy of the system.
All right.
I mean, I got your legitimacy right here.
I got your legitimacy right here.
Do you pay taxes or not?
Because if the answer is yes, you're paying taxes.
The system is legitimate enough.
It doesn't care what you think about it.
It just cares whether you obey or not.
Until we can change that equation, what we think, what we debate, what our morality is, what our political theories are, all of this is just kind of entertaining, but it's not like getting us where we need to get to.
Yeah.
If it's distracting you from doing constructive work, either in your personal life or in the movement, absolutely, you're wasting your time for sure.
That was the great when I like finally gave up on Trump.
I mean, I gave up on him in 2017, but I just said, oh, that was back when I was way more involved.
I was like, think about all of the time and the energy we have to make stupid memes anymore.
And it didn't exactly.
Did we gain anything from 2016?
I would say yes at the end of the day.
I don't regret getting him elected or helping to get him elected because you've got to remember WNs were totally irrelevant before then.
And now we're in the fight one way or the other.
Yeah.
It certainly moved the Overton window, as we've all said a million times.
And it makes conversations with so-called normies, so-called regular people, very different than they were beforehand.
The things that would come out of my mouth 10 or 20 or more years ago, that would be somebody would say, well, that's a kook talking or that guy's really radical or something like that.
Now the normies, yeah, the normies say what we say now.
And so that is certainly a gain.
And I can't possibly say where it could go, should go.
Should we care about a presidential election or not?
All I know is that the forces that are moving society in a sense are much bigger than us.
We can have some opinion about should we do this or should we do that?
What effect does it have or did it have or won't it have?
But the fundamental forces that are moving society are certainly driving one part of it our way just because of a whole bunch of complicated reasons that depend upon each other.
So in that way, you know, we used to have a guy, he would say, you know, it's just that time on the calendar.
If you want to think about like Kali Yuga or something like that, it's just that time on the calendar when things are going to come our way, you know, with our efforts or with our total belief or not, it's coming our way because the fundamental calculus of it all is working out that way.
Before we get too far along here, Greg, Tom Sewell is one of our favorites.
Not sure if you follow a lot of his stuff.
He's mostly on Telegram.
And of course, in Australia.
Greg Ross called us Sewell.
Seoul, very.
I know you're talking about it.
You know, tribe and train.
And I want to get away from you people and build a homestead.
I remember seeing that interview.
Yes.
I know exactly which one you're talking about.
Between, you know, politics aside, you've been in this for a long time.
You're super smart.
You write about it virtually every day.
Forget about Trump and forget about the election.
What are the priorities, either practical or pie-in-the-sky stuff, that everyone listening to the show, aside from the handful of enemies, should be doing?
What's on your list or what should we be doing?
Well, those two words that you already said, tribe and train, are the two most important.
I mean, you have to have some sort of a manner blend around you, a collection of peers that hold you accountable and give you something to fall back on.
If there's one thing that I've learned over the years, it's that the power of a group of people who are loyal to each other is like the strongest force on earth.
And it's more powerful than media.
It's more powerful than press.
It's more powerful than even state power in many cases.
That's like the only force we have that can really oppose state power.
And in terms of, look, what I want at the end of the day is a white homeland.
I am a white nationalist.
I am not an American nationalist.
I am not a Christian nationalist.
I'm not any of these other things.
I am a white nationalist.
Race comes first, full stop.
Amen.
If you said, well, what does that mean in miniature or where do we begin?
I think the most exciting thing that's happening right now is the growth of Irania in South Africa.
And trying to see something like that happen, although this is not a terribly new idea, trying to see something like that happen and then it go to a larger scale would obviously be the kind of thing that I want to see our people start directing their efforts toward because that also means eventually we can start electing people to local offices.
We can take advantage actually of one of the things that the left accurately complains about, which is that the American political system gives disproportionate power to rural areas, which is that something we should actually use.
We should actually be looking at a lot of these towns and cities that are being abandoned and seeing like maybe we can build something here.
We should actually be looking at a lot of the trades and some of the industries where a group of people who are moving in with experience and know what they're doing can build the kind of network that you see the Indians and Jews and other groups building in a lot of these things, where they essentially always have something that can take care of their guys.
The biggest problem, of course, and the biggest, and this is where it gets in the way, is if you look at Irania, that is for Afrikaners.
It's for Afrikaners with a specific language group, with a specific religion, with a specific historical experience.
Is there a equivalent white identity or even a white American identity that binds people together in such a visceral way that doesn't need to be explained, that isn't just an abstract ideology, that isn't something, that isn't just a LARP, essentially.
That's the open question.
My sense is that we're moving in that direction and it's going to become more relevant.
And therefore, the job of people like me is to be the kind of torchbearer for it, but we're not quite there yet where people intuitively understand it.
It's there implicitly.
It's not there explicitly.
I think eventually it'll get there explicitly.
Somebody had a question.
Yeah, think about just reflecting on my own life, you know, as having somewhat conservative leanings.
You would always see conservatives would cite things going on in Europe, bad things, and point out how, look, it, they are further along.
Look at that's where we're going.
Look at we don't want to become like them.
All true, of course.
Now look at what's going on in Europe.
Right-wing racial movements across the continent.
Every single country has a big, powerful white, right-wing movement going, and they're taking elections and winning elections.
Maybe that's where we can go.
Maybe.
You want that, Greg, or I got another one.
No, no, you have to.
Make the point you were going to make.
It's actually a softball for you.
I wanted to shift gears a little bit.
We're running short on time, but you've been doing this, like I said, for long over a decade.
It's basically your livelihood.
And, you know, I retreated to the sticks and have seen not an endless series of debacles or failures, but there's been so many from personality blow-ups to organizations or movements that have come and grown and shown promise and then disbanded for one reason or another.
And I am regularly, if not constantly, tempted to wash my hands.
I'm not breaking out my violin.
I know there's tons of people in the audience who know the feeling.
They're still listening, but they're maybe not involved anymore.
How the hell have you been doing this for so long, seeing all that you have and maintain the work output, the motivation, all of it?
A little bit of a- Well, I think one of the little secrets of, and this gets into the whole tribe element, is that I don't think a political tribe as such is the way to go.
And I don't mean this to criticize people who are doing that.
Certainly there are a lot of groups that have not fallen apart and in fact are growing and are quite strong right now and getting stronger.
So maybe I'm wrong.
Or maybe it's just one of these things where there's different answers for different people.
But the thing with politics is that we all have our own ideas.
We all change our minds, at least on tactics or the right thing to do in any given situation sometimes.
And as different circumstances come, people have different ideas about how to meet them.
And if you're doing this from a political point of view, especially when the point of politics is to take power and wield power, and that doesn't mean be honest and tell everybody what you're up to all the time, you know, if you're running for an election or something like that, it's kind of a tough way to try to organize people.
I mean, the reason states work is because they've got compulsion at their back.
The tribes, if we can use that term in a loose sense that really work, they're religions, they're things that are common moral viewpoints.
They're communities of common interest.
They're the sorts of things where like, yeah, they're political in the sense that everything's political, but most people would not think them as political.
I mean, you don't think of the church you grew up in and that all your friends were in and that formed your social life when you were a kid.
didn't think of that as a political thing, but that's also why it worked.
And I think one of the reasons that I haven't gotten burned out or burned, period, is because most of my friends and my social life is not explicitly political.
They all know what I'm about, but I don't just go like charging in screaming about the white ethnostate 24 hours a day, because if I did, I think I'd be pretty exhausting to be around.
So the key, yeah, key is in surrounding yourself with the type of people that are.
Well, I mean, you've got demands on you, too.
They would hold your ass to account if you went wobbly.
Yep.
Don't drive you crazy.
Right.
I mean, the thing with any kind of political group is that at the end of the day, it's the purpose is to win politically, not to necessarily sustain the members individually.
Because if you're a political group, if you're in a political group and you're trying to win power, you're going to have to be willing to sacrifice the members of that individual group, perhaps cynically, if that's what it takes to get over the top, which frankly is not maybe the most conducive thing toward building trust and solidarity between people.
I mean, how many times, and forget like extreme politics or whatever that means, but just like normie Republican politics.
I mean, how many times do you have friendships of like decades that are ended overnight because it was to somebody's advantage to sacrifice somebody to win a position?
And then people get like, oh, you betrayed me.
It's like, you're in politics.
Like, what did you think this was?
Like, that's what happens.
I mean, that's one of the reasons you see one of the things about the internet and particularly with the crackdown on resources that we've seen over the last few years because of deplatforming.
I mean, one of the reasons I think the infighting is so bitter, it's like what Kissinger said about academia, the stakes are so small.
It's because there's not a very big pie to go around.
And so you always, you have to be having some sort of a conflict.
You have to be distinguishing yourself vis-a-vis everybody else.
You have to be showing why you're the one to follow and not other people.
And if there is no conflict, you better create one in order to draw eyeballs.
And maybe that is the right thing to do toward building one's personal brand or drawing resources or maybe just maybe even making entertaining content.
And maybe you even really believe what you're doing.
But it's tough if you're trying to build a movement of a lot of different people where everybody's going to, if not get along, at least not form a circular firing squad.
Sure.
Yep.
We've seen it time and time.
I mean, I'm not saying I have all the answers here, but I'm saying that these are problems you see over and over again.
For sure.
You've got a young one under the roof and another even younger one on the way.
Has that changed your outlook at all?
I know you're already a father.
Yeah, I know.
Don't forget I got a teenager, too.
No, I know.
I mean, that's a bit of a thing when you begin to, you look at him and you're like, geez, because of my brain, he's still like two.
But one of the interesting things is, you know, talking to him and then because you sort of have to get re-plugged into youth culture and you see what it is they're watching.
You see how.
He's a fan of the pro, does he?
No, no.
Okay.
He's cursed with my hair, poor kid.
The thing that you really understand now is that, and you even see this with very little kids, and I'm sure this is one of the biggest struggles that your listeners deal with, is that they're raised by media in a way that even we weren't.
I mean, a lot of the things that we take for granted in terms of our values, our aesthetics, or the things that we think are cool, we got from movies, we got from TV, we got from video games, but we got it from a time when there were certain cultural expectations that we would think of as healthy.
Like it's good for a male action hero to be strong, to kill enemies, to take to get the girl, to do, you know, now, now something like as simple as, hey, the guy should go for the girl.
Like that's unthinkable.
That's rape culture.
That's whatever else.
So people are being brought up now with no real idea how to behave.
The people on our side are mostly purged from mainstream social media.
The ones that are left from the old days have had to moderate or just flip, switch sides.
And you've got a lot of really twisted subcultures that I think quite consciously mutate people and turn them into self-destructive, absolutely, broken people for the ends of others.
Physically broken in many ways.
Yeah, physically broken.
And I think that, you know, with the trans stuff specifically, I think that's the biggest nightmare of a lot of parents because, you know, when they talk about dead naming, I mean, it's kind of true because like the person is spiritually dead once that even happens.
And that's definitely the biggest thing that it's brought home to me is how powerful the media is in terms of what it is to be sovereign in a democracy.
Like the media is more important than anything.
It's more important than the state.
It's more important that it is the state, really, functionally.
It's more important than the stock market.
It's more important than anything else because with media power, you really can dictate values and dictate people's characters and essential being like with a capital B, like the essence of who they are in a way that I would have found impossible even 10 years ago.
I know the TikTok democratization of influencing has, it's not been entirely bad.
You know, there's gains and losses from not having just three big networks.
But it's absolute filth that goes along with the good stuff.
But as, I mean, Trump's biggest failure and was not doing anything about deplatforming.
And I was talking to some other people, obviously, FPAC, and I've talked to plenty of other people.
And I'm surprised how many of us are pretty much in agreement that the number one issue, the issue from which all other things flow is online free speech.
Information.
Because if we don't get that, we're always just going to be spinning our wheels.
Well, I have to salute you for somehow maintaining the self-discipline to hold a Twitter account through the purges.
Through the purges.
92,000.
Not too shabby, big guy.
Those would have been big numbers in the old regime.
It was a relatively late start, too, for mine.
I never really used it because I was doing the V-Dare one for a while.
I mean, I haven't done that one for years, but I used to.
I remember when I didn't know who was who.
I was like, man, whoever runs the V-Dare Twitter, he's got game.
Why is he like doing black metal references from like the 1970s?
V-DARE on the 2016 GOP convention.
I remember that one.
Yeah, that was a breakthrough.
You got some bangers.
Good for you, buddy.
Last one from me.
And then we'll see if Sam and Rolo have anything, but your favorite childhood memory.
First thing that comes to mind, don't think too hard.
All right.
SummerSlam 1991.
Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior versus General Andan, Colonel Mustafa, and Sergeant Slaughter, who for some reason had converted to being an Iraqi.
And Hogan and Warrior won.
And it was a touching, it was the Indian summer of American identity.
It was like powerful patriotic propaganda that worked for me because I was like eight years old at the time.
But I think that was also like the first quote-unquote like sports I ever went to where I got to sit in the box.
You know, you ever get to sit one of those days?
That was awesome.
Speaking of Hulk Hogan, when I drove away from the one of the very few Tea Party rallies that I went to, it was a totally stupid one outside of Congressman's office.
Like nobody was there.
Nobody cared.
I played Rick Derringer's I Am a Real American.
Of course, Hulk Hogan's entrance.
HH, brother.
And then the funny thing was when I worked at Leadership Institute years and years ago, we actually had Warrior, whose, his name is actually Warrior.
He changed his name, the Ultimate Warrior.
So his name is Warrior.
He was actually a conservative speaker, but it only worked for one.
It only worked for one speech because one of these like nice Christian girls who worked at LI brought him to speak at this school in Connecticut, and he spent the whole time like screaming insults at all the leftists and cursing at them and calling them faggots.
So they were never able to bring him back again.
F for the Warrior, I think he is passed on like so many others.
Yes, he has passed on.
Sam Rollo, anything before we let Greg get back to his family?
Rollo says, cut it.
No, that's good.
I think we've gone long enough and we can hang it up there.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Greg, many thanks.
Smile across my face for everything that you've done, the very positive influence you've had in unshackling my mind and God knows how many thousands, tens of thousands of readers, whatever it is.
We salute you, brother.
Thank you.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
It's been an honor.
Back in the time.
Appreciate it.
You want to pick the break music or nothing in the hopper?
I think he may have ran.
All right.
Then it's up to me to pick the break music.
Oh, you were asking me to pick the break music?
Go for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is there a song that is not too profane or screamy?
I think you're like a black artist.
Yeah.
Now it's all like profane and screaming.
That's kind of the problem.
If you go with a professional wrestling claim, you could go with the warrior music.
If you're talking about break music, the ultimate warriors theme is not a bad one.
You got it, bud.
Summer slam.
Yeah, those were the days.
This is a better time.
For sure.
Yeah.
All right, brother.
Take care.
And welcome
back to full house, episode 188.
Huge thanks to Greg Hood, not just for coming on the show, but for literally writing books and books and books worth of not just brilliant commentary from our perspective, but virtually every one of his pieces is tailor-made to share with maybe normies or people on the fence.
Now, that's not to say, hey, go share a Greg Hood article with your boss, but you can certainly share it with the loved ones in your life.
He writes at American Renaissance at VDARE.
He's on Twitter at J. Kirkpatrick V Dare or something like that.
can find them.
We'll put it in the show notes.
And I was absolutely sincere.
His writing was a thunderbolt for me.
And I've always believed, you know, perhaps it's only my own perception, you know, what I went through is what other people can and will go through too.
But one essay and I thought, son of a gun, he's right.
And a lot of this race blind Americana civic nationalism stuff is pissing in the wind because they're not playing by those rules, but they expect you to.
And if there's one thing that white people really don't like, remember that site?
Black people don't like?
White people really don't like hypocrisy.
And they do have to be smart or savvy enough, I guess, to sense some of the political hypocrisy when it comes to race and immigration and politics in America and our false idols of diversity and all the rest.
But you don't need me to tell you about that, unless you are a new arrival to the cause, in which case we say welcome.
It is June 20th, the summer solstice.
We actually have an old friend visiting.
We played a little paddle ball down in the valley earlier tonight, and then we played a little volleyball.
We got a cheap net up in the valley.
And I set my alarm for an hour before the show because, you know, I got to do my stuff and I got to get ready and print out the notes and double check everything.
And I was like, I got to go up and get ready.
And they said, stay for a little more volleyball, at least until it gets dark.
So it did, it was so well light.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, coach, did you celebrate June 19th yesterday?
You know, I did.
And I didn't even know it, Sam.
I was on my way home from work and my wife said, just, I think she actually said, get anything but chicken because we had, I got like a mondo chicken breast packet or whatever.
And typical me, I was like, get something for dinner.
So I picked up fried chicken on the way home.
And everybody was happy about it because we hadn't had it in a while.
And then the kids thought that was funny.
And then they said, where were the watermelons, Dad?
You know, there was the whole thing.
Did you have some lean with it?
Did you wash it down with some lean?
I think we maybe had a little bit of boxed Franzia Chardonnay, if there was something in the fridge.
Yeah.
But no, it was very poor showing.
Back in college on MLK Day, Sam, we used to watch ghetto movies, get 40s and order fried chicken for sure.
And that was, that was considered, you know, we didn't even think it was edgy.
Back then, it was just like, oh, yeah, we're making fun of MLK Day, right?
We didn't feel like we were racist or rogues.
It was just something that you did.
Lots of Jews in that fraternity, too, were totally racist back then.
Maybe when they were under their original, their original coding from their parents, you know, to teach them about the schwatza menace.
And then probably as they proceeded in their careers, they were anti-racist and kumbaya because that's what pays the bills.
Yeah.
Ultimately, just the way things flow, they, you know, that's not a tenable position.
I mean, I remember Biohazard, the hardcore band from the late 80s, their first album was totally racist white power music, you know.
But, you know, and this Evan Seinfeld was the nephew or some relation to Jerry Seinfeld.
Cousin.
He's the cousin.
Whatever.
And so they obviously that's that's what the way to get popular was to have that type of edgy music.
You know, they talked about Howard Beach and all those types of things, racial incidents and mocking blacks, mocking the deaths of blacks and things like that.
And then, of course, they became really big for a few years with big time videos on MTV.
And then they remember.
Yeah.
And then they, whatever, they went on and became, you know, whatever Jews do when they move on, but they certainly will foreign stars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, but that was certainly, you know, a way for a band to gain notoriety.
Yep.
Real quick, I wanted to, you know, I was going to say I was going to apologize to the audience for our lengthy delay, but this time I don't actually feel too bad about it because probably about a week after our previous show, which was, of course, the outstanding Russia-Ukraine analysis, we just had really ferocious storms come through here, you know, on the map where there's all these little dots of red or whatever.
And our internet went out, which happens during storms occasionally.
So I was like, whatever.
We just got to wait and we'll restart the router.
It's a DSL, of course, hardwire.
And then the next day it was not back on.
So I decided to call the company and they didn't know that the line was cut.
A tree had fallen and severed the line or a branch had fallen and severed the line up the street.
And I called them and they're like, well, the first tech, obviously big storms, first tech we can send out is, I thought it was the coming Friday before we went to the beach, but it was the following Friday.
So we had no internet here.
I joked about driving to Walmart or Sheets to do the show from the parking lot, but God knows does that work or, you know, my commitment to the show?
Got any Starbucks over there?
Not within an hour, buddy.
Maybe five minutes.
We have to go up to Cumber.
Probably Cumberland, Maryland, I would guess is the closest Starbucks or Winchester, of course, but that's over an hour away.
Yeah.
Nice little local coffee shop here.
So anyway, we were waiting for the internet to get fixed and then we went to the beach with my parents, the Jersey Shore, before, here's the key for a little family tip.
We went deliberately before New Jersey schools were out.
So we were kind of getting a jump on, we weren't thinking getting the jump on diversity, but just getting the jump on crowds.
It was a little bit cheaper, a little bit nicer and just more open.
And I got to say, I was shocked.
I'm so used to being shocked in a bad way in America in the current year, but the beach was 85% white.
It was a very white experience.
Now, that's not all for Wild and the Jersey Shore, but Wildwood also has a bad reputation as being seedy and perhaps violent.
Jim Goad wrote an article about it, but it was pleasant, quiet.
We had plenty of space.
And here's a real quick, funny story.
There is a gigantic 25-foot-long octopus kite that Costco sells.
I don't know if it's still on the website or if it was one of those things that was only in the store, but we brought this thing to the beach and unfurled it for the first time.
Isn't that like a Jewish anti-Semitic meme?
Absolutely.
Yes.
I only needed to like place a beach ball and paint the earth on it so that the beach ball earth was inside these long ass tentacles.
And it was perfect.
And we unfurled this thing.
And 30 seconds later, Wildwood cop pulls up.
Who is it?
It's a black guy.
And I'm just like, all right, what's going on here?
And he goes, listen, he said, you're not, it's, it's a really big kite and it's not allowed in this part of the beach.
You're going to have to go over there.
But because it's so vacant today, you're okay.
So would you mind just moving a little bit?
And I said, that seems fair to me, right?
Because they don't want people getting tangled up in strings and whatnot with their giant octopuses, like so many victims of Jewish power in the world.
So did you, coach, did you code switch and did you slap them five or anything like that?
My brother.
No, you know, the person, yeah, yeah.
It's not the first time a cop has blowed up on me, but I was like, well, my parents are here.
But it was the first time a black cop has you know like a Durrell thing.
Yeah, no, black cops came to my apartment in DC when we had a rager and they cut the uh power down the you know, we didn't answer the door, so they cut the power down at the breaker and everybody just ran out the back door and we just like kept the door locked.
And it was, it was like the weird rule, you know, like you can't question me.
I have a right to remain silent.
Like if you had a party and the cops were banging on the door and they would bang at your door for like five, ten minutes, just everybody knew, just don't answer the door because they don't have problem.
I guess there's no murder, it was just noise and underage drinking.
But no, I just looked at it sort of curiously, like, ha, wow, that was fast.
Wildwood cops rolling up 30 seconds after the giant squid unfurled.
Sure.
Yeah, we got good policemen in this country.
We handled it like men.
He made a polite, reasonable suggestion, which I adhered to.
And then we did the black power, you know, fist in the air because I was very.
You didn't try to just fight him right then.
You didn't just fight him automatically?
You know, I yeah, really throwing your arms up like an orangutan.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't throw a Roman.
Yeah, I didn't say dance, monkey, dance.
No, that's not fair.
No, yeah, I was simply shocked by this.
I mean, Wildwood is where there was a there was a viral footage of a cop like arresting Jewess who was maybe 19 or 20 years old drinking on the beach.
And she was like, ah, you're hurting me.
You know, it was a big cause at the time of the overreach of American cops.
And it very well may have been.
I remember watching the video and being like, but in this case, we could support.
Yeah, it was fine.
At that time, the cops were in the right.
Yeah.
Well, obviously, you know, the beach was quiet.
We were having a nice moment.
The kite was freaking awesome.
Giant purple squid in the air or octopus.
I was calling, I was calling it a squid call on an octopus, but it had eight legs.
And he's like, I'm like, can you just move it over there a little bit?
Yeah.
Would have been great to paint an earth beach bowl on the star of David on the octopus's head.
All right.
That's all.
It was a lovely trip to the beach with my parents.
Great way to kick off the summer.
And now the summer has truly kicked off with the solstice.
And I will stop there.
Sam, over to you, top of your stack.
Father's Day was delightful.
We had beautiful weather here.
Whatever you want to cover.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we've been off for so long.
We got to go way back, you know.
Back at Memorial Day.
You know, I did a lot of traveling.
We had three really nice trips, all movement related in May.
And every single time, I don't know if you ever, it's been like a humorous thing for us.
I don't know if you ever noticed you go around a bunch of people, you get sick afterwards, you know.
And I said, I'm going to, I'm going to start like prepping with Truvada before the next gathering.
What's true?
What's Truvada?
I don't know.
I never heard that word.
That's well, it's the advertisements on the TV all the time.
There's like the homos.
They boost their immune system with this.
Yeah, prep.
Yeah, prep.
But yeah, but yeah, we had some nice trips.
And seriously, but for Memorial Day, some of our dear friends have some nice property a little bit down south.
And so we went down there for Memorial Day.
And we actually delayed it.
We were going to make like a four-day weekend out of it.
And the first day we were questioning if we could go at all.
And certainly not that day.
And the next day, we felt pretty good.
And then we ended up going.
So we went there.
But the story I was going to tell, other than we had a wonderful time with a bunch of comrades down there near St. Louis, and it came down to Sunday morning.
And we thought, well, do we just go to the local Novos Ordo parish here to fulfill our Sunday obligation?
Or do we drive to St. Louis, which is about an hour 20 away for the Tridentine High Mass?
So as my youngest son and I were the only ones up early on Sunday morning, we said, yeah, let's just make the drive.
So we make the drive down there.
Good for you.
Or up there.
Yeah.
And it was, so we, you know, just based on that, it was that, the Tridentine Mass.
We didn't know anything different.
But what a, what a treat we had because as we're coming in, we see that it's, they're celebrating their 150th year anniversary of the church being there.
So that, that was very special.
And then so we go and find our place.
The church was absolutely packed with white people.
And when I go to these other churches, when I travel around, I try to count how many pregnant women there were.
And I lost track after about 17 or so.
There were so many young families, white families, pregnant women, and the church was absolutely packed.
It was very beautiful.
I could only describe it kind of a Baroque style, which is just extraordinarily ornate and beautiful and detailed.
It wasn't the big basilica, was it big guy, the famous?
Well, it was St. Francis de Sales church and the Institute of Christ, the King Sovereign Priest, has an oratory there, which is what we attended.
And that's the same order that runs the church we normally attend.
Anyways, so we, you know, we're we were thinking to ourselves, wow, this is really great.
Look at this place, everything.
And then we see lining up for the procession coming in.
Who is it?
It's a bishop.
We thought, oh, this is going to be a pontifical mass.
It's getting more exciting.
And then that weekend was Pentecost.
So then we thought like, oh, wow, this is, you know, this is everything's lining up here.
Yeah.
And then, and then it starts up.
And because it was Pentecost, they had not only the choir and the pipe organ, but they had a brass section and timpani drums.
And so when it started, it was bruh, the brass sounded.
It was like so loud and invigorating.
And then we see the bishop coming in.
And I just thought, wow, we were really here on the right day.
And the whole thing was just beautifully done.
But just to make a point about all this, so when we go outside, what's across the street from this place?
There's a storefront and it has a banner hanging across the front of the store and it says, Uhuru Solidarity Center.
And then underneath their slogan, unity through reparations.
So we took a picture of it, but I just couldn't help but think, what a juxtaposition.
These worthless niggers, all they can think of is to take from people, right?
Never did it enter their mind this marvel of architecture, the mind-boggling beauty of this church, all these wholesome white families packing it out, the music, the liturgy, the building itself, everything about it is literally exactly opposite of what they are about.
And so we took pictures, you know, of both things.
And so we really enjoyed our day.
Was it the fact that Uhuru is a character from Star Trek Rollo that piqued your interest there?
Because I saw him directing.
No, that's a hoorah.
But no, I've heard correction.
You are correct.
Their blow-nosed power thing better than me.
Yeah yeah, they say like a huru, and then some kind of oogabooga thing, right.
So I was a little like i've only heard that, like on college, like college campus frizzy haired mulattases say that yeah yeah, go ahead sorry well, I was just going to say that uh, and like I say we've been off for so long, I mean without the podcast, i've i've been on the Dispatch twice.
I'm kind of running it now, the Manner BUN Dispatch.
I've been on that twice.
And then I was on hammer show as well, the BLUE CAST as he called it.
Yeah I I, you told me about that.
After the fact, how did that go?
I, you were talking great yeah yeah, it was well, it was a live stream, so it was very lively.
We had a lot of good laughs, it was a good time.
And uh, I happened to meet that guy on there.
Uh, that that is one of the producers on NS Attack, which is a uh channel on Telegram that features uh, techno and related genres.
That I, I it was.
It was recommended to me.
Um, our good friend Mitt Gartner.
Actually he said this is a great channel for people maybe that that are not into rac or OI or or those more kind of aggressive forms, but might like this.
This is a racialist stuff and it really is a great channel if you like that kind of thing.
I say check it out, because most of it is this kind of like techno and and very interesting stuff.
But they also have djs mixing music live at certain times and they also do interesting things like uh, they'll just have like uh uh, heavy rock music from the 70s but like mixed in a way where they've changed the tempo a little bit, like electronically right, and run the songs together and stuff.
So it's it's very.
They have very interesting stuff on there.
It's very kind of intelligent and uh, he's an he was a single dad.
He's an interesting guy.
So, you know, maybe in the future we could contact him or something, if it works.
You bet, and I I forgot to mention to you I did do my homework and I listened to that show and at first you know I can be very judgmental and reactionary and when it first came out you know it was it was a very industrial sound, kind of nine inch nails kind of a sound yeah, nine inch nails meets techno, but it kind of it kind of grew on me and there were actually melodies in there and it wasn't all just dark dark screaming, you know, like sort of metallic, over and over again.
Uh, it was pretty good.
So I will put that NS Attack channel.
If you are into, I guess, industrial-ish techno uh, check that out and we'd be happy to have that guy on the show.
You know, I was like oh, what are we going to talk about?
I haven't listened to any of his music, but we'll get that done.
Well, we are at least that he's a single dad.
And when what what, the what, what the music is about.
And you know, at least we could geek out about music and listen to music on the show.
Yeah, sure thing.
Yeah, our hiatus this time fam, was not because I was in the dubs, or you know we're all calling the show.
Yeah no, just shit happens in the summer sorry, uh.
Then uh, Father's Day, maybe we could talk about that for a quick minute.
You bet.
I am ready, but I first wanted to talk about the heat wave because that is impacting like some large, we're going on two weeks now.
I wanted to ask you about that because we get your weather first, right?
You get our weather as it comes a few days later.
And these last two weeks for sure have been absolutely brutal.
And then today, I mean, like once it got into the late afternoon, it's been like 70 degrees.
It's like 60 degrees right now.
It's like cool and breezy.
So it's not the hot weather supposed to return for a few more days, but maybe in a week or something, it says we're going to get down to kind of decent temperatures.
So yeah, I was wondering how you're dealing with it.
You're getting all our super hot weather, super humid weather, I'm sure.
The heat dome.
Yes.
As soon as we got back to it, you know, I always try to push off the installation of the window AC units as long as possible.
I've wanted to get a heat pump, but you know, because like bugs can kind of sneak in through the cracks there.
It's a little bit noisy.
It obscures a little bit.
We did get one of those.
They're called Medea, not like Tyler Perry's Medea Black Review.
But they have a much lower, it's like split in the middle.
So the window goes down into the air conditioner.
They have them at Walmart.
Yeah.
They have them on Amazon or whatever.
And it's a really great system.
A little bit of a bear to install the first time because it's got a bracket that hangs out instead of just using the window sash to keep it in place.
But that's doing a good job.
But being a skin flint with electricity, I've been opening the windows at night to try to cool down the house as much as possible.
Then I close.
And then we got one of those exterior internal thermometers.
So I'm like, once we hit equilibrium, the windows go shut.
And it's been so hot that I have not been jiggy about the window ACs.
They've been cracking all day.
I turned them off for the show so that it wasn't too noisy in here.
But interestingly, my father-in-law is convinced that WW3 is around the corner.
He's very concerned that things are meeting up with Russia and Ukraine.
The Serbian president or prime minister the other day said this is a lot worse and closer to the big one than everybody suspects.
I'm very roughly paraphrasing there, but he's like, Mr. Gebert, you must get a backup generator.
Whole house.
We have a Jenny here, but we don't have a whole house backup generator.
So I start, I was like, all right, all right.
I don't actually think it's that bad, but if money were no object, sure, I'd have a backup standby generator for the house.
But, you know, one of those is about 5K.
And then I reached out to propane companies locally and to get a big ass, you know, propane tank, because if shit hits the fan, you don't want to run out of propane.
Are those trucks still going to be running?
It was like $6,000 or more for the propane tank install setup, connection, labor, and then connecting it.
And then they're going to have to do a little bit of excavating so it fits nicely on the side of the house.
And I'm like, hoo boy.
So that's not exactly on the top of the list for your house.
We got fresh DSL cable at least on the infrastructure front here running between the books.
Guys were really nice and friendly.
That was very personal.
All right.
Let's go back to Father's Day.
I remember having, yeah, my mom reminded me that one of my, well, my grandfather would said that it was a holiday for Jews to make money off of birthday cards.
Remember, reminded me that I wished I could have had a candid conversation with him before he passed all those years ago.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
Well, that is true.
Same with Mother's Day or same with almost any holiday, I suppose.
But we can take the good of it and look at it in the good light, I think.
And for us, we had our local community here, our group of our guys and gals had a nice Father's Day party for everybody and with food and swimming pools and everything.
So that was very nice.
For me, I got a baseball mitt because it sounds ridiculous.
Maybe it doesn't mean anything to anybody else.
But my son, my youngest son, I got him a baseball mitt because when he goes to a camp for a week every year and like a Catholic thing.
And that's always what they say.
Bring your baseball mitt, bring a couple of things to play like sports and stuff.
And so I got him a nice baseball mitt, but I don't have one or I didn't have one myself because they're not cheap.
I don't know if you've priced these things.
50 bucks ballpark for a decent one?
I'd say 100 for a good one and like a real, real super cheap one, a super cheap one.
Yeah, maybe 50 bucks.
But I got a very nice one for Father's Day, a very nice one.
And so we were able to play catch because we do like the outdoor things.
We play football.
We play basketball.
And we, you know, I weren't able to do the baseball thing as much, but so we did that.
So, but a very nice day, Father's Day.
Yep.
Wonderful.
Yep.
I got some kids made some nice, nice notes for me.
And can you still hear me?
Okay.
Yep.
And I got a good nap in.
I usually like to have a good nap on Father's Day.
Not too long, you know, but an hour.
Nice, nice dinner.
And yeah, I LARP as like, it's Father's Day.
Fate me.
Celebrate me.
I am so great.
But as long as we have a nice day together as a family, and I forgot that about the summertime, it's so hot that I can't really like frog march the kids out to do stuff.
You know, usually I'm like, go outside, enjoy the weather.
And it's so bad here.
You know, they're inside or making sure they're reading.
But I said, kids, there's two things.
There's two things in life that are precious.
Of course, there's more things in life that are precious than these two things.
I said, one of them is summertime and the other time is youth.
And you don't want to spend it.
You don't want to spend your summer sitting around all the time.
I am absolutely committed to doing as much as possible during the summertime.
Well, on those miserable days where it's extremely hot and extremely direct sunlight, you are right.
You can't always do everything you want to do.
But what we do is we'll wait till about maybe 7.30 p.m. where the sun has gone down at least a little and it's cooled off just a little.
And then we'll go out and play ball or do something outside.
So if you keep your eye on the clock, maybe you can sneak out before sundown when it cools off and it's not such direct sunlight.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Before twilight, those hours, it absolutely cools off.
Rolo, you've been far too taciturn so far.
And I know you got something in the hover, whether it's Father's Day related or other.
I got something that is not Father's Day related.
So lately, I have been extremely busy as far as my personal life goes.
And I've been pretty checked out from a lot of things.
We'll say movement wise, I guess.
And I've been working a lot and I've been trying to build that social capital, as they say.
And the one thing that I have grown to realize in these times is just how worthless normies are.
Because I've spent a lot of time like these last like three or so months.
And it's been really bad, and I was talking to my dear friend Bobby about this and he thought that it was because of Marvel and football.
But they're not really into that, the thing that they're most into and it it's really why they are completely oblivious to everything that's going on, like we like we talk about, like how we can't really reach these people or whatever.
The thing that they are the most into is themselves, in a way, that people that are pro-white and are for the altruism that benefits white people are not.
They're affluent and they are self-centered because of that.
Yeah, it's it and it and it's uh it's been very very shocking to me just how how much these people are just just so into themselves.
It's weird.
Like it would be better if they were like, boy, I tell you that Star Wars or boy, I tell you that sports team or boy, I tell you, this craft beer, because at least they would have like a hobby that outside focus on.
And they're like, look at this thing that I like this thing.
There was an episode of Half in the Bag.
No, no, it was review where Jay Bobman was talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle toys.
And he said, that was the first thing when I was a kid.
I was like, this is my thing.
And people are not that anymore.
Their thing is themselves.
And I threw a party for a bunch of people I worked with.
And it was like, I spent a lot of money on it.
And I got this cool place.
And most of the people just came up with the worst reasons why they didn't go.
Two people showed up for about an hour and a half.
And then they left early.
And they said, like, oh, I gotta, I gotta get up early for work.
Oh, you know.
And then turns out they just went to a bar to hang out with one of the people that flaked.
And it's not like that guy that they went to the bar with was someone they hadn't seen forever.
It's someone they go to the bar with every week.
Maybe it was a bad party.
Just kidding.
The whole time, the whole time they were on their phone.
And I found this out because one of the other guys, he said, full disclosure, I'm going to leave to go to a bar because they just text me and they want me to go with them.
And he's like, yeah, I told them they probably should have told you.
But yeah, just it makes me feel good talking to you guys because when I talk to normies, like it, and I understand that there's that temptation for a lot of people in this thing because there are a lot of losers here.
There are a lot of freaks.
There are a lot of Spergs.
There are a lot of people.
And you all know who I'm talking about.
Those people, you're like, why is this person here?
This person doesn't care about white people.
This person is a freak.
And it's easy to look at them and ignore the 99% that are good people.
And then you just look at them and you just go, I want to get out of this.
And then you'll talk to Normies for a little bit and you'll be like, this is so much better.
This is so much easier.
But then when you deal with them, you realize like, oh, yeah, this is why I got away from Normies to begin with.
Well, they're self-centered.
And as I understand, one of the things they tell depressed people is they get them to volunteer, like, you know, at some kind of charitable thing.
And that's that is kind of the root of what you're saying is it's it's good and healthy to care about something more than yourself, something bigger than yourself.
Maybe you believe in some good cause, however maybe trivial or kind of simple, but some good cause that benefits people in need, something like that.
And it does a lot of good, I think, to the person's psyche to put your attention outside of yourself onto a good cause, hopefully.
Well, did it ever cross your mind that perhaps they, in their own way, thought that you were an NPC or a normie and like they didn't have anything to relate to you?
Because we're all kind of fumbling in the dark.
Nobody really, you know, unless you open up what he does.
No, I don't.
Because I mean, you, you have met me.
You have spent time with me.
And just that's how I am with normies.
Like I am an exuberant social person.
And most normies don't know how to, and I'm talking about like young people because there, there's two groups that I spend my time with is like people that are a little younger than me, not quite my age, but a little younger, not urban blacks.
That's part of the big brother program.
Yeah.
Urban blacks is part of urban blacks is part of the big brother program.
Yes, a lot of them.
But like people that are under 30, but you know, over 25 and boomers.
Like I, there is a group of boomers that I spend a lot of time with.
And the boomers are fine-ish.
They do have a lot of really brain dead political opinions.
Now, one of them is one of the boomers I spend time with.
It's not Sam, but it's a guy who's, he's from a, he's from a diverse area.
And when he was a kid, he went to Juvie because he and his brother did dumb crap.
And as a result of that, he got to see what blacks are like.
And this was, you know, a long time ago, too.
So this is when Juvie was like just blacks.
Like it wasn't like there's, you know, Puerto Ricans and there's Mexicans and Arabs and Asians.
No, it was just like blacks and like 10% whites.
So I'll talk to him about race and they'd be like, hell yeah.
All these people, they are not like us.
They're incompatible with our civilization.
But that's the only person I can have any kind of real politic talk with.
But just regular conversations I can have with the boomers.
But the younger people, they just don't, they don't know how to relate to people because all they care about is themselves.
And it really, it reminds me why this is so, it's just, it's the better place to be.
And you have to look at those people that you look at them and you just say, like, why are you tolerated?
Why are you accepted?
And just in your mind, oh, they shouldn't be here.
And you don't have to interact with them.
Like the Howard Phillips of the world, you don't have to interact with them.
Although I do encourage you, if you see Howard Z. Phillips, you do make fun of him.
You make fun of him as much as you can.
That's a name I had not thought of in many months.
Sort of low cal.
A couple of thoughts.
I have abandoned all hope on virtually all boomers.
That's not to say that they're horrible, that I want them to pass off, that they're not better than the younger cohort.
But I recently interacted with one who did the, you know, persecution of whites for their perceived anti-Semitism is the resurgence of Nazism.
And I almost flipped my lid.
I was like, how is it humanly possible?
Do you know anything about the ideology of your supposed boogeyman?
Like when a system is opposing its native Christian white population like Sam Melia, like Ash Pod Ziad Sharp, at the behest of actual Jews.
And then to say that that is Nazism come back to life, I just about threw a rocket.
Now, I will say this about the boomers that I do know.
That stuff comes up.
Like they talk about like people that are anti-Jew is or saying like basically the Jewish system, like oppressing people.
They say that's like Nazism.
And I just go, oh, yeah.
Well, like, cause they're, no, you're not ever reaching them.
It's, but I, I do understand what you're talking about.
And I, and I'm not pro-boomer.
I'm just saying this particular group that I'm close to.
I have a good, yeah, I, I have a decent social interaction with them.
Oh, absolutely.
I completely understand.
Yeah.
There are, there are boomers that I love, of course.
When it comes to the younger cohort, I don't spend enough time with Jen Alpha aside from my own brood here, of course.
But I did have quote unquote normie interaction, one of those forced situations where you're socializing with other white people and you have no clue if they're, you can tell if they're fat or if they have, you know, the bull horn nose piercing, which is usually a good sign or purple hair.
But when they look fairly normal, like, hmm, especially in this part of the country, you can probably get along with them and ended up going on a hike.
We were at a thing where there were families and there were kids and we ended up going on a hike.
And I oddly found the relatively vapid, safe conversation like a throwback.
Like I felt no compulsion to broach anything political with them.
It would have been inappropriate.
I had no idea which way they leaned, which is probably center left.
But it was a little bit like an anthropological walk where they had no idea who I was.
And it was empty and vapid, yet pleasant because there was zero edge whatsoever.
We were just a couple of white families going for a walk in the woods, shared time together.
But a good memory or a good reminder to Rolo that, yeah, I do not wish that to be the entirety of my social interactions for the rest of my days.
You can sometimes turn it off.
I think, you know, Greg was mentioning, I guess, his cohort, like you don't have to go hard all the time, even with people who get it.
And you don't have to go hard with normies all the time.
No, definitely not.
Well, the way I look at it is ignorance is its own punishment.
So somebody who's who's very willfully ignorant and is just embracing that, then my not disabusing them is their punishment.
Fair enough.
You are not blessing them with the light.
You're not in a situation.
Yeah, let's be because, you know, all the frustration that you go through in a daily basis, not being able to get to the cause and the reason for things, you know, that's where they are.
And that life is very frustrating that way.
Sure.
And the other thing is like, you know, of all the people that I've reached individually or through the podcast or through social media or whatever, you know, if I, if I were to red pill some random person on the street, it's a good deed, you know, but that's, that adds to the ranks, et cetera.
But it's not quite as pressing as it used to be.
Well, it's, you have to size up.
It's different when you are amongst a group versus one-on-one.
You have to use different tactics and different subject matter.
But if I ever find the right moment, especially one-on-one, I think there is really, for me, something very exhilarating and refreshing about the pure hatred of it all that can really blow people away sometimes when you expose them the right way to it.
There's something very mind-opening about the hatred, you know, the pure hatred and the pure love that is at base of what we believe that it really cuts through how much do you know, how sophisticated is your knowledge of history and other events, because that can really touch the soul of somebody.
And I think that's, you know, people say, well, what do you get out of what you do?
Oh, the exhilaration of the hatred of non-whites is to me just absolutely worth it.
You know, it is very much about personal power.
And that is a way of touching it directly.
So I think that's something because it's the whoever you're talking to, they're denying it all on some level.
So if you can kind of sear them with some truth, it often does cut right through.
It's more difficult to do in a group, or you can, but you have to really size it up properly.
All these categories.
Yeah.
There's those who know and consciously suppress it or stick silent about it.
There's those who are simply too simple.
You know, it's like does not compute.
They are the pure NPCs.
And then there's those who, for one reason or the other, don't get it quite yet and might have a legitimate excuse.
They're too busy with work.
They, you know, they don't do social media.
You know, think about how many millions of people are like, no, I don't do social media.
Like, I've never had a TikTok.
I only know about it secondhand.
You know, I had Facebook for a little bit.
Twitter did it for me.
You can rip the scales off people's eyes.
You can startle them and shock them into admitting once it's out there, once you've thrown down the gauntlet, now it cannot be denied and we can start on an honest level to talk about issues.
So that reminds me.
Somebody in the comment zone said, hey, where's your commentary on the three-year-old white child who was brutally slaughtered in a parking lot in suburban Ohio by an obese knife-wielding Negress?
And I don't think I responded to the guy personally, but I had seen the headlines.
And my honest answer is I didn't want to amplify it.
I didn't want to read the stories like a story about a young kid getting brutally murdered in a parking lot.
It doesn't surprise me anymore.
Did you see the whole video, by the way?
That Negro was walking through the grocery store holding a kitchen knife, just waddling like a penguin, just fatting through.
She stole it from a pawn shop and everyone just stood there.
And this is the nature of power is everyone let it happen because they knew, well, if I say something, I'm probably going to have my life ruined for being.
To be fair, isn't the first thing when you see an obese black woman walking around a grocery store is to avoid her and not look at her?
Like it's possible that people don't see her.
They saw that knife.
That fat waddle, it's like you see the hands draped down.
That knife is clearly in the hand.
It's not like she was trying to conceal it somewhere.
No, she's like holding it like fat arms stretched out.
You just will not like stretch that like the Freddy Krueger scene, but like they're, they're at her fat waist.
And then as she's waddling, you see that knife with every humpty-dumpty step she takes.
Yeah.
I actually tuned into the black-pilled stream on that one.
But, you know, it's late at night and it's kind of drawn out a lot.
I wasn't sure where he was going with it.
He was like, you know, this is a white area.
Uh is, but everybody's supposed to go to.
You still have to go to the store.
When you run to the hills they weren't in like a really bad area and their beautiful baby boy still got slaughtered.
Um, keep your head on that, never relax.
Keep one fall.
All it takes is one black.
That's all it takes.
All right, you know you don't have to have to be a hundred of them.
Yeah, it's not like oh, and you know, we had such a nice neighborhood, it was only 10 black.
No, it only only takes just one fat fat.
It only takes one uh precious, based on the woman to be.
So i've got a direct example to this.
I was in a store the other day okay, it was a Dollar General.
I had to pick something up on the run and uh, there was a 20 something white guy in there, covered in tattoos uh, including his face, walking a little bit uh disjointedly and at he like eyes everywhere, and at one point he held his finger up to his temple and pulled the trigger.
Um, and my first instinct was get the f out of there.
I did.
He didn't appear to be menacing, he didn't have, I didn't see any bulges or anything like that uh, but I had to get in and out for a minor item, which I did, and I kept him in the corner of my eye to make sure that he wasn't approaching from my rear or my side, and he was sort of shuffling about and then for a brief moment I thought, do I need to stay here?
And like, is this guy about to rob the place?
Or like, shoot somebody?
I didn't think so.
He just he looked like he was crazy and possibly wild.
So I went with my instinct, which was to get the job done and get the hell out of there, just in case whether that makes me a cow, you know I certainly didn't want to be a vigilante.
I didn't want to trigger him either, because you know how some of these people are, they're harmless until acted upon, right um?
So there weren't any shootings that day.
I got out of there fine, but he was clearly off his rocker, either on drugs or mentally ill or who knows, fresh out of the clink.
I tried to get a look at his ink to see if any of it was wn or ns, and it just looked like gobbledygook all over his body uh, but yeah, shuffling around, socks in the sandals, kind of bit with the with the shorts and the tank top.
I just I just kept an eye on him.
Yep, best I could do.
Hey coach yeah hey, Sam.
Hey, what about New White Life?
When are we gonna going to do that?
Uh, you know, after uh missing well, three weeks or whatever, of the show.
Yeah, i've decided uh unilateral, we're not doing that anymore.
It's not, I let it, let it slip, Sam.
We got uh caught up with catching up on everything else.
Uh, sincere apologies to Dane.
I think I could say Dane Wage.
He said that would be fine.
He welcomes fam.
He's, he's around and he reached out to let us know that his wife welcomed their fourth.
Oh man, and it was on father's day, so Significant number of kids.
He suspects it's going to be their last.
And he or she arrived on Father's Day.
So, Dane, good.
Way to go.
Good to hear from you again, buddy.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
I remember hanging out with him and having some good conversations with him back in the day.
Me too.
Absolutely.
One of those ones we know IRL who drifted a little bit and he's back in the inbox.
Everybody's welcome back in the inbox.
I can't imagine how many people have written into the show or asked questions or had ideas.
And then they've just sort of faded by the wayside.
Whether that's our fault or their fault or nobody's fault, don't know.
But you got any, Sam's always got some in the hopper.
He's just can never, he can never announce them.
Yeah.
Well, there, I know that there's four that are very close right now.
However, I do have one, which is a lady that goes by a friend named Donkey.
Okay.
Figure that out.
That's that's the call sign there.
And my wife is in some of these white nationalist art chats.
Sure.
And you know some that I'm talking about.
I think Wolfie's on some of the same ones.
And anyways, one of these ladies, she just gave birth to a daughter this week.
So good job and congratulations there.
Heck yeah.
Way to go, ladies and men.
And adjacent, somewhat adjacent topic.
We recently attended the baptism of one of our dear friends' young daughter.
It was a very beautiful event for our group.
And they did that.
And then I just heard tell of another couple that we all know here that they are also having their daughter baptized coming up very soon.
So just some beautiful family moments there.
Absolutely.
And Sam, I forgot to tell you.
Catholic baptisms, both of them, Catholic baptisms.
Speaking of Catholic baptisms, you know, I had that relatively disappointing Easter Catholic Mass experience with the family a couple months back, but we got invited to attend a local church, I'll just say, of the Protestant persuasion.
And due to scheduling, I could only go with two of the three kids.
Wife and Junior had something else to do.
And it was not earth-shattering.
And the other two didn't were equally unenthused to be there, but they were well-behaved.
But there, and I know this will be anathema or heresy to some, just irritating, but there was something charming about the relative laissez-faire or casual or common man approach of this small Protestant church in which clearly a local guy was running it, right?
He wasn't formally trained.
Bible reading, there was some piano playing with singing.
Crowd was 90, it was 100% white and probably 80% over the age of 50.
So, you know, small rural place with a devoted white congregation that we just happened to get invited to, and I was glad to take the kids.
It was charming and pleasant, and it sort of revealed the differences between how some of these Protestant churches and Catholic churches work in terms of lack of formality and ceremony, but still having some pretty sincere devout professions there.
Yeah, I'll leave it.
Definitely, whatever you might believe, maybe some people agree with me on some of those points.
But regardless, there is no questioning the sincerity of some of those people or many of those people.
And I cannot fault them with that.
And they are right on in many of the ways that's important to be right about.
And so I look at differences or disagreements.
If those would come up to me, I would hope that I could have a friendly conversation about some of those.
I bet you could.
Yeah.
If it's relevant to a given person or not.
But not to say that the differences aren't important, but that those people can be very fine people, excellent people doing excellent work with what they're doing there.
I don't want to take that away from them and in any way diminish that either.
So yeah, I know it's not.
Can't look at it in this one-dimensional way or two-dimensional way.
You know, it is, especially now, you know, our people have a way of finding their way with these things.
It was really, it was really cute at one point, Sam.
You know how Catholic Mass is very regimented to a certain extent with no negative connotation there.
And at one point, one of the parishioners like whispered up to the altar, I guess you could call it an altar.
And he said, oh, I forgot that.
Yeah, I guess that's pretty important.
He had forgotten to summon the youth to go around and pass the hat, which I was like, well, you know, if you're going to forget something in church, that's a pretty damn charming thing to forget to go around and collect the alts and whatnot.
So that was cool.
And remember, you know, most of those people were probably raised in that faith.
That's what they know, or they were taught from birth about the evils of papism and the tyranny of Rome.
And God knows, I didn't see any.
There were no fag flags or any sign of degeneracy.
Maybe I detected a bit of philosemitism in the homily, if they call it a homily, but it wasn't overt.
And yeah, God knows whether those people agree with or even aware of what the sort of supra issues are.
Yeah.
All that stuff.
So just a little vignette from small town America.
And I'm not going to become a regular.
God knows they tried, right?
I think the Protestants are better are better at saying, you should be, you know, you should join our parish.
You know where to find us.
Maybe I'm wrong on that one.
Yeah, no, I think that's generally bigger on the outreach.
The evangelists, I don't think it was an evangelical church.
Anyway, I just wanted to note that while we were off air, the SPLC fired some significant portion of their workforce, much to the chagrin of their union and whatnot.
And of course, there's been a lot of commentary on that, but the consensus is, and of course they're filthy, stinking rich.
They have an F rating from all the charity raiders.
They're loaded.
They laid a lot of people off.
And the consensus is it's because a lot of their rabid leftist employees are also ferociously pro-Palestine.
Anti-Israel, as you like it.
So I believe they call that a cognitive dissonance, perhaps they are experiencing somewhere deep in their psyche.
Are our radical SPLC lefties truly normies and that they're not able to process the reason for their termination?
Or do they do they do they get it and they just can't say it?
You know, it's okay to be pro-Palestine.
They don't get it.
That is wishful thinking.
It's wishful thinking people thinking you can reach them.
No, you can't, because you're white.
Therefore, they're not gonna listen to you.
And those people are insane.
Just because they agree with you on like four things, they still think that children should be forcefully removed from their parents because the parents said, no Timmy, you can't have a permanent mutilation surgery that will forever alter you.
That remember.
Those people think that you're not gonna reach them, they don't get it, and i'm sure there'll be lies fed to them as to why they were fired.
Yep, I agree, I agree.
That's.
That's one of those funny things though, but do you think, like a Palestinian in Palestine is wants children to be removed for the parents so that they get a sex change?
No okay, you know what I and i'm glad you bring that up because uh, this is something I was going to talk about on the Gamer Word, which is another show is there was some stupid hole that made this rant saying, like the video game industry is is diverse because the world is diverse.
They don't understand what that means because to them, diversity is like a key commercial made in in 2021, the rest of the world that is diverse.
They don't like faggot, they don't like tranny crap.
They don't like people.
They don't like women that that grow out their armpit hair and dye their eyebrows pink.
They don't like that stuff.
They look at that and they go like what the?
What the heck is going on here.
This is, this is some kind of madness, exactly yep, I.
I actually wonder what the true decision-making process and calculation was there.
Did an order come on high from big Jew to the Asian replacement for their formerly sexually harassing perhaps worse ceo, whatever president, and said, you got to get rid of these people or maybe it's not selling anymore?
They're like these people are dead weight.
You know the, the anti-racism or anti-extremist beat just ain't paying or just ain't getting the clicks and the fundraising that it used to.
It's also possible, but the uh, the occurrence raiser explanation is that uh, there was an outbreak of at least Anti-israelism or Pro-Palestinianism there and they use that as an excuse to ax them and not to ask them any questions, to ask them to leave, axe their heads from the payroll.
Hate to see it.
Sorry guys, tough break.
All right gents, that's all I got in a stack and I am glad to be back and hopefully the audience enjoyed this one serious up top all over the place in the second half, heartfelt and uh, our next show is going to be with two uh great guys that we know who are also new fathers.
Again, they got young ones under the roof and they thought that we had been horribly remiss and not provide more practical information to first-time fathers or fathers who have a young one under the roof.
Uh for, For the first time in a while, So you got that to look forward to.
Awesome.
All right.
Sammy baby, thank you very much, despite it taking you an ungodly amount of time to switch over to the other platform for the first.
I had to figure it out.
You know, it was only when I had the link.
I couldn't find it on there.
But yeah, we made it work.
All's well that ends well.
Our guest didn't mind either.
Rolito, glad to be back.
And thank you for always asking me when's the next, like, like, we'll post a show tomorrow.
And he'll be like, when's the next show, coach?
Be like, you son of a bitch.
Can you just 24 hours at least?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We got another one in the hopper there.
When's the next show, coach?
Whenever those two find gents and we can make it work.
Next weekend, maybe we might have to do, we'll see.
I get to look at the calendar and I don't want to do that right now.
You heard it here, folks.
When I was in the Protestant church, I went to silence my watch because it was doing a little quiet ping when somebody was texting me and I ended up pinging my phone and it went off.
And I, oh my God, I was mortified.
Who's the freaking, who's the freaking, yeah, speaking to Sam and Skype?
I, my, I pinged my own phone at church.
I wanted to die.
If I go to hell, that's going to be a factor.
All right, guys.
We're out of here.
Full house episode 188.
Email if you want to really catch our attention.
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Throw some shekels at givesendgo.com if you liked what you heard.
Whatever you do, check out Greg Hood's writings all over the place or as James Kirkpatrick.
He doesn't care about his multiple pen names.
And yeah, we'll be back in a week.
I'm not going to say a week or less, but around a week with that next show.
And Rolo has the DJ booth this week.
I heard the song and I approve of it, but I don't know how he wants to tee it up, if at all.
Well, this is a song that I made for our friend Ash.
And this is called The Tale of Ash.
The Tale of Ash, Rolo's musical chops.
Thank you very much, buddy.
Hope you like it.
Don't forget, Ash, give send go slash support podsy ad sharp.
You know that link if you follow us whatsoever, but it'll be right there near the top of our show notes.
He got monkey hammered way worse than Sam Melia.
And that's no skin off Sam Melia or Laura Teller's back.
And yeah, remember Ash and his wife and daughters because he's serving a much lengthier sentence.
And give lots of love to Sam Melia and Laura too.
Write to Sam in the clink.
I can't think of a better image than like Sam smiling when they're like, oh, the prisoner is awake.
And I could just see him smiling and being like, oh, it's another day.
Back at it.
Indefatigable hero, that guy, and Ash 2, which with a much longer sentence.
Thank you, everybody.
That's a wrap.
We love you.
We'll talk to you next week.
It's yours, Robert.
Cha-cha!
Darkness he did not regret.
Results have infinite lives.
Eyes casting stones in the skies.
Dragons of fiery eyes.
Shot by sharp cries.
We hard defies the fear.
Lights bling burning near.
Evil shot rise again.
Touchdowns against the end.
With the soul shining bright, he fought till morning light.