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It is I, Lord Wolfshield, and we are back with another episode of The Keynote Crew, a cozy little movie review show for cozy friends.
On the keynote panel today, we have with us not Jenny from the block, but Jenny from the letterbox.
How are we doing?
Good, thanks.
Man, that's a great name I picked for that.
Yes.
I love your, love your little channel there.
Thank you.
And then with us also, we have Rebecca as well as James.
Hi there.
James is actually taking care of a child, but he's coming back in.
Okay.
And the wind just blew in.
Anna, hello.
Welcome.
Hello.
How's everybody doing?
Doing well.
Thank you for joining.
And then with us, we have the guest of honor, Coach Finstock.
Welcome.
Lord Wolfshield, thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here.
I've never done a film review before, but I got a passion for this one.
And I'm glad that I changed it up and didn't go with Teen Wolf or Wayne's World because I feel like we'll have some slightly more serious content to discuss as opposed to some of my other favorites.
Definitely.
Yeah, this one is a bit meatier, so should be fodder for plenty of fun conversation and some spurging about Russian geopolitics and whatnot.
Newly relevant, too.
Yeah, it's back to the good old days.
All righty.
So, Coach, now I've listened to your show Full House for many years now, and I've heard you do many interviews, but I have not ever heard an interview of you.
So I would like to try to do that now because I don't know.
Have you ever done like a show where you are the one who gets interviewed?
I've done a couple.
I went on the Nordic frontier to do that.
There was a wonderful show from Australia called Roots of the Right, but those were all over two years ago.
So it's been a while, but happy to do it.
Cool, cool.
Yeah.
So I'm going to try my best interview voice.
And yeah.
So Coach Finstock, tell us a little bit about your history with getting involved with this scene and what led to your show and whatnot.
Sure, happy to.
I guess I'll go back to the 2010s and starting to come from Normie.
Well, I guess going back even further, I was once a liberal or a Democrat because I hated George W. Bush.
I thought he was a moron, a cowboy.
The war in Iraq stunked to high heaven.
So I just assume that the Democrats were the good guys because they opposed the warmongers and the neocons.
That lexicon was starting to enter my mind.
And then it was really immigration and seeing it firsthand.
Living in Northern Virginia, I was sort of oblivious, you know, Mexican immigration south of the border issues was something for Texas or for California.
And it wasn't until we moved to Northern Virginia and had a son, our first child, that I started to really pay attention to the demographic impacts, the neighborhoods turning from once quiet, nice, middle class.
You could tell it in the architecture and the leafy streets into essentially barrios and crime and MS-13 gang tattoos showing up everywhere.
So around that time that I was saying, hey, something is rotten in the state of Denmark, both parties were conspiring to pass a mass amnesty.
So that's when that was sort of my big thunderstruck moment of realizing that there was a duopoly, now they call it the Uniparty, that was conspiring to essentially flood our country with unassimilatable, in many cases, hostile, low IQ, maybe hardworking in some cases, of course.
But it was just that.
I had no sense of the JQ.
And then that came later.
So what year was this when you kind of had that revelation?
I think it was late in the Bush years when they were trying to shove amnesty through.
It was before Obama.
Yep.
And interestingly enough, it was Stephen Miller and Jeff Sessions who helped block amnesty back then.
And then Obama got into office and then the anti-white stuff started to really kick off.
If you recall, they just unilaterally decreed that all of the DACA babies, as I call them, could stay, which seemed like flagrantly unconstitutional.
So I was kind of pulling out my hair at that time at the utter treachery, treason of our elected officials supposedly sworn in to uphold and defend the Constitution.
And lo and behold, that's around the same time that I got on Twitter, that I discovered edgy podcasters and everyone from Spencer to Ramsey Paul to TRS.
And slowly but surely, you know, then it was the invasion of Europe, the migrant influx of 2015 that I had another sort of dark epiphany that, you know, it would be one thing if it was just the United States that was getting deliberately flooded.
Great replacement hadn't really entered my lexicon yet.
But then I saw they were doing it to Europe too.
And that seemed civilizationally and racially suicidal.
And then you just have to plug a little bit, dig a little bit under the surface to see, you know, why would a people build up, heap up their own funeral pyre in the words of Enoch Powell.
And of course, then that gets to the JQ and all the rest of it.
So yeah, but Russia has long been a fascination of mine.
I know we're going to talk about Hunt for Red October in a little bit, but one of my first memories as a kid, I had this big national geographic political map of the world over my bed, mid 80s, late 80s, maybe.
And I remember my dad after reading me a story one night pointing out the absolute vast size of the USSR at the time in sort of reverent and slightly scared tones.
If you think of the Cuban Missile Crisis early 60s, everybody's hair was on fire about the prospect of nuclear war, but it heated up again in the 80s very seriously.
There was a great film called The Day After about the consequences of global thermonuclear war.
And that just stuck in my mind, my dad looking up at the map and pointing to the USSR, sort of scared, sort of in wonder.
And that started it.
And I ended up studying abroad in Russia as a college student.
Before that, I went to Kiev on a student exchange program in high school.
So I've always been interested.
You could call me a Russian.
So you went to Russia when you were in high school?
Or no, that'd be UK or Ukraine.
Yep, Ukraine.
I went twice in high school.
So that was the first country I had ever visited.
Talk about babes and toilets.
That happened.
It was the damnedest thing.
I grew up in South Jersey, small, middle class, not bad, but not special high school.
And they just happened to have this multi-year ongoing student exchange program with a regular gymnasia, as they call it, in Kiev.
U.S. students, our students would go over there for two or three weeks in the spring.
And then Ukrainian students would come over and stay with American families in the fall.
So that was absolutely a spectacular, life-changing experience for me.
And I should add that reading The Hunt for Red October at some point in the early 90s as probably a 12-year-old, you know, up until that point, as a kid, what do you read?
Like science fiction or stuff that school assigns you.
It was the first time I read a serious political, military espionage thriller.
And I just said, God, you know, up until that point, I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, but reading The Hunt for Red October made me want to either work for the CIA or for the State Department, but certainly to move to Washington.
So it was a cautionary tip.
Confirmed, coaches, ahead, confirmed.
Hey, no, I mean, it's no secret.
I did live and study and work in Washington for over two decades.
I am now humbly living in the beautiful wonders of rural West Virginia.
But yeah, I worked for the government for over six years, clearance and all that.
I don't talk about that stuff too much, not because I'm ashamed of it and because Spurgs might call me a Fed, but just because it is still not settled 100%.
So I got to leave that.
Do people actually accuse you of that?
Because I was just making a joke.
Not really.
You know, I'm sure like people have, of course, in the past, like in passing or whatever, but there's never been a real serious Fed jacketing on me.
Partially because I've been around for so long, partially because I'm a really bad liar.
I'm like kind of an open book.
So I just like, and there's no skullduggery or anything.
I've always been kind of on the edge of, you know, optics and stuff like that, because once you realize who the villain is and who the good guys were in World War II, it's really hard to keep that under your hat and play cutesy with our ideas, right?
Yeah, I think you even like talked about like your little bit of Jewish ancestry on your show once.
0.2% only from 23andMe to clarify ancestry came back with not a mention of it.
Yep.
Right, but that's just kind of you're a very open book about everything.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, it's just life is short.
Our politics are risky and they can be, you know, they can be career destroying, but I always hated the rhetoric about, you'll ruin your life.
Oh, you ruined your life.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, I'm married.
I've got a wonderful family.
You know, we've got plenty of food to eat.
We're safe.
We've got tons of friends.
Having that sort of like struggle and the fight and whatever, it gives your life so much more meaning, frankly, than just like, what, just like going to the bar every day.
Like, I don't know.
Like, that's not a life to me.
Like this, like being in this struggle and having like a purpose is just what gives my life meaning, you know?
Yeah.
Marco Ramius, the Lithuanian subcaptain from Hunt for Red October, he took a gamble and made it through.
But, you know, yeah, it's a, it's a richer life to live, live big.
You don't have to live dangerously.
But one of my favorite quotes from way back in the day was from Thoreau, and it was something to the effect of say what you have to say, not what you ought.
Any truth is better than make-believe.
And I just, I couldn't just keep my mouth shut about the manifest evils.
And frankly, you know, I didn't think of it as genocide at the time, but they are out to destroy every single one of our countries if they can get away with it.
That was really, it wasn't just the United States.
It was all of Europe.
They're doing it to Australia, New Zealand.
Ironically, some of those former Soviet states, of course, are the best off demographically and politically.
Poland, Belarus, you know, we can argue about that.
And I tend to skew a little bit more pro-Russian than some people are comfortable with, which I totally respect.
But perhaps we can delve into that later.
Yeah.
All right.
So you have been doing the Full House show for five years now, right?
I think you mentioned that on your latest episode, correct?
You got it, buddy.
Yeah.
We just passed through the five-year anniversary mark started April 2019.
That, of course, was an offshoot or a sort of renewed effort after the fatherland on TRS basically wrapped up.
And that was a show.
Yeah, what was the fatherland?
Like, so that was something you were a part of?
Or like, did you start that?
No, no, I didn't start that.
A guy named Jim started it for, it went for three or four years.
And I came on after going to Charlottesville, I was hanging out with, or just before going to Charlottesville, I was hanging out with one of their regulars who said, yo, you should come on and talk about it and, you know, how it went and stuff.
And I did.
And I had a blast.
And I liked, you know, not anybody can talk about politics or the news or what have you, but it's a little bit rare or more difficult to put a human edge on fatherhood, on marriage, raising kids, et cetera.
Of course, the enemy lampoons us and caricatures us as, you know, basement dwelling tendee eaters, et cetera.
But some of the finest men and women I've known in my entire life, both just in terms of being kind and good people, but also in terms of being brilliant, hardworking, and accomplished, have been white nationalists or white advocates or whatever you want to call it, dissidents.
So I enjoyed doing the fatherland.
It was a little bit slow paced.
You know, everybody has their own preference, but I try to keep Full House hopping, essentially, to the point, because I used to listen to a lot of podcasts and I always hated self-indulgent shows.
And hopefully I'm not being that now on your lovely show, you know, but just, you know, like, you know, time is time is money.
I don't want to hear chit chat about this or that.
I want, you know, talk about important stuff, keep it moving, cover as much ground as possible.
And that's what we try to do on Full House.
It's not just a dad show.
If anything, we've probably drifted a little bit from discussions of fatherhood and raising kids, perhaps too much, just because at a certain point, you feel like you've covered everything, you know, from home birth to circumcision to like graduation and all the rest of it.
So we basically talk about whatever we want to.
It's at full-house.com.
You know, you can check me out on Telegram, pro-white fam too.
And I'll be honest with you.
The links are in the show description.
Perfect.
Wonderful.
You're the man.
But we'll keep doing it.
I'll be honest.
You know, I'm 43 now.
The kids are getting older.
Living in the country has reduced my edge to a certain extent.
You know, when you live in an urban area or in a hyper-diverse area, it raises your blood pressure and you're intimately aware of the offenses being perpetrated against us.
And then when you move, I've said this for a long time that if you can, if you can work from home, if you can lower your cost of living, if you can get privacy, safety, a whiter, redder state, you should do it.
I absolutely don't regret it at all, but it has taken a bit of the edge off of me because if I don't log into Telegram or look at the news, I could, you know, in theory, be living in blissful rural ignorance.
So blessing and a curse, perhaps.
M in the chat says coach was there for my family during our darkest hour.
He's an amazing man and lucky to call him a friend.
Even if only on the internet for now.
Well, thank you, M.
That means a lot.
I actually don't know who that is.
And Dallas also doing well.
Fatherland was a fantastic show.
I saw that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for your time comments.
You bet.
And thanks for everything that you do too, buddy.
The creative artistic stuff is not necessarily my cup of tea, but I absolutely salute you and applaud you for going for it.
Yeah, I showed you, I sent you my Bigfoot movie a long time, and you're like, I don't like it.
I was a little more diplomatic than that.
That's all I heard.
And then I sent you my, I sent you my baby teeth movie and I didn't even get a response.
So I'm like, oh boy, you probably can't even come up with a diplomatic.
No, no, but I thought that you would like that one person because it was, it had like, you know, the, the, the, the fatherhood theme, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm corrupted by modernity and Jewish media.
You know, I only like big, big budget blockbuster movies and I only like, you know, slickly produced electronic tracks, no skinhead music for me.
No, I don't remember the second one, but sorry.
I'm trying to get there, you know.
Speaking of my film, I, I, I have another film I'm working on now that I'm working towards.
It's called Once Upon a Time in Minnesota.
Uh, a number of the people on the panel here are going to be acting in it.
Or yeah, I think pretty much everybody on this panel, uh, except for except for you, coach, uh, is going to be acting in it.
So, um, yeah, if you would like to help, uh, because I'm trying to raise uh ten thousand dollars right now.
I have about twelve hundred raised right now.
But if you like my films, and this is going to be my biggest one yet, it's going to be like uh an hour long.
Uh, hell yeah.
And with, I'm going to have like 13 people involved.
So it's like I need to be able to pay for everybody's travel expenses and whatnot.
That's like the biggest expense of the movie.
Uh, so if you would like to help fund my next film, uh, you can, there's different ways you can look in the description and find some my cash app and uh buy me coffee.
Also, if you go to Odyssey, you can super chat and you can donate there as well.
Do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, all right.
So, uh, let's see here, getting back to full, uh, is there anything?
Uh, so, so, so you were on Fatherland and then that like was it was just you and Jim?
Oh, no, there, there was, there was a whole stable of uh fathers that were on that show.
They had a hard and fast rule.
You had to be a father to be on that show.
So, they had a bunch of regulars, but guys came and went.
I came on near the end, you know, what Charlottesville was August 2017.
So, I probably did it 2017 through 2018.
Um, you know, whether it ran out of steam, there were a couple personality conflicts, et cetera, but it was of its time, as Jim, the host, said.
And then a few months, maybe six months later, I said, you know, let's let's do this.
Let's, let's, you know, get the band back together.
Uh, Sam is our longest time regular.
Okay, so he was, he was part of Fatherland.
Yes, yes, he was.
Yep.
Was was he on before you got involved or who got involved?
Yeah, he only came on occasionally and he kind of got pigeonholed as into like the older, uh, you know, sort of 1.0 guys, guy who talked about sex all the time on that show.
What?
Really?
Yeah.
I can't, I don't think I've heard.
Yeah, he was, he was like a designated hitter, right?
They'd bring him in when they needed somebody to talk about boobs and, you know, Kama Sutra or something like that.
But he, but he was obviously a great guy.
He had seven kids.
So I said, Sam, you know, let's make you a regular and not have it just be about sex.
And perhaps I'm a little bit uptight about that, but really, Full House, we try to keep our language as clean as possible.
Certainly no gratuitous profanity.
Occasionally, if we slip up, we'll bleep it or we'll let it go in the second half.
But I felt strongly because especially with long family rides and stuff, I always wanted to be able to listen to our content and not have to be segregated into my headphones, right?
Something that the whole family could actually listen to, even little kids, without it being too over the line and certainly not grotesque or profanity at least.
So that's that's full house for you too.
We try to keep it clean.
We don't always succeed.
Sometimes we have a really edgy guess and we'll give a you know warning up at the top that this one is not family friendly.
But yeah, that's our MO.
We encourage our audience, whether they're already married with kids, perhaps consider having another one.
And most importantly, for the single guys and gals out in the audience to keep their hopes up, give them some practical advice.
Most of our regulars have been out of the dating game for so long that we're actually not competent to talk about the realities of online apps and the horrors of, but what has happened to both single white men and women in America and around the world.
But our producer is single and constantly dating, still hasn't found the one.
So we, you know, we try to keep it grounded, practical, useful information that runs gamut.
Oh, massive lightning strike right here.
That was awesome.
But yeah, we try to cover the waterfront.
Yeah.
How did you get involved with Rollo then?
I knew Rollo online and we've had three or four producers over the years.
And Rolo came on probably two years ago, or I just needed a new producer.
And somebody said Rollo would be perfect.
And he said, yep, I'll do it.
And he's been our longest running and most competent.
We had a spectacular producer in the past who had to leave just due to concerns about just reputational risk of being in this thing.
And I totally respected that.
Rollo picked up where he left off and he's been a rock for us ever since.
I give him a lot.
He is sort of my whipping boy on the show.
It's mostly a meme, but yeah, Rollo is like our slave down in the salt mines.
You know, he's worthless.
He's no good.
He's never going to get married.
Well, you got, that's just the long running tradition to treat your audio, your producer like shit, you know.
Yeah.
I've listened to many like radio shows, you know, and that's always the, that's always the thing.
You know, you gotta.
You know what?
It was, it was listening to, it was listening to Stern growing up where he would, you know, totally abuse stuttering John and Jackie and whoever else.
That's probably where I first learned the shtick.
Sad but true.
Yeah.
All right.
So the rest of the keynote panel, do you guys have anything you want to ask or add or want to join in?
Why is it called Full House?
Thank you.
Good question.
Why is it?
Yes, that's a very good.
Because it's, well, you know, a little bit better than Family Matters.
You know, at the time, I was I was thinking of all these things.
I was thinking back to, you know, everybody has their sort of coming of age decade, perhaps.
I was born 81, but really, you know, you come become conscious, late 80s, early 90s.
So I was thinking back to TGIF Friday nights on ABC, you know, when you were too young to go out on Friday nights and party.
You're like home with your parents watching Perfect Strangers, Family Matters.
I don't know.
You guys are probably too young to at least remember that at the time.
But, you know, Full House was one of them.
And it was actually my, oh, here's a funny little background story.
Like kicking around names for the show.
And I thought it would be really cool and really wise to name it the pro creators.
Get it?
We're professional creators and we're pro-creators.
And now I look back and I like that a lot.
I like shows that have like a like that sort of double meaning.
Yeah, that was the intent.
And everybody was like, yeah, let's go with that.
And then it was actually my wife who just texted me full house with the Germanic spelling.
And I said, boom, that's it.
You know, symmetrical.
I'm obviously German in some small part.
We don't shy away from glorifying the good old days.
So yeah, that's how we came to be known as Full House.
It was Wolfie who came up with that name?
Absolutely.
100%.
Credit for due.
Good, good, good name, Wolfie.
Congrats.
I don't know if procreators would have had a five-year longevity.
Probably not.
All right.
So James and Rebecca, you guys, you guys got anything you want to say or add?
No, I can just identify with a lot of what you're saying, Coach.
I was born in the early 80s as well.
I'm getting a lot of your references.
TGI Fridays was like the best.
And then just growing up in the 90s, becoming starting to become politically aware.
I love the selection of this movie.
I'm looking forward to the discussion.
But, you know, what you were saying about, you know, when you started having kids, starting having a family, how that really changed your worldview.
It sounds like your kind of red pill journey started quite a bit earlier than mine.
But yeah, having kids, you know, radically changed my perspective.
It's like, you know, the day before my wife was pregnant, the world, I thought I understood how things were going.
And then I'm holding my daughter for the first time.
And all of a sudden, the world doesn't look as safe and secure as it did.
And it got me asking a lot of questions, you know, going down different rabbit holes and trying to figure things out.
And with the help of the YouTube algorithm back in the day, Stephan Monalou and all the alt-light guys, I started listening to them.
And so, yeah, your story definitely resonates quite a bit.
And I'm looking forward to tonight's conversation.
Absolutely.
Thank you for that, James.
Yeah.
Once you have kids, it changes everything.
It's a life 180 for sure.
And one of the many lessons that we share on the show is that I wish we started having kids earlier because we got married at 25, didn't have our first until 30.
And I suspect that probably the overwhelming majority of men and women out there wish that they had started.
That doesn't mean you have to like, you know, make it happen on your wedding night, right?
There's nothing wrong with a couple years of travel or self-indulgence, Netflix and chill or whatever.
But sooner the better for all of the reasons, you know, having more energy, giving you more option to have more kids down the road, et cetera.
And just because it's the right thing to do.
And Netflix and Chill is ultimately pretty vacuous and self-absorbed.
Kids, quite the opposite.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, Hunt for Red October, the book made a massive impact on my life.
And I remember seeing the film years after and enjoying it, but it didn't necessarily make a big impact on me.
But some of you guys I know went back and watched it.
I went back and watched it two nights ago.
And holy cow, it stood the test of time.
If anything, I enjoyed it more than the first couple times because it really drove home that, hey, Russia is our enemy again.
All of this stuff, what's past as prologue is now into the forefront.
I mean, just today, the Russians opened arguably another front in Ukraine against Kharkiv.
I will not, you know, we don't have to go into Ukraine versus Russia.
Who's the good guy?
Who's the bad guy?
It remains arguably the most important geopolitical thing going on in the world, even more so than Israel into Gaza.
And it really is to me an intra-civilizational conflict that harkens back to the Cold War and could get us all killed.
And that's really what this movie is about: existential risk of nuclear war, which I have never bought into the argument that that was all fake and gay theater to keep the proles scared or working hard for Uncle Sam or Uncle Stalin.
Yeah, I was back in the day, you know, I was definitely on track to join the military.
I loved all of these shows.
All the movies featuring Jack Ryan, I think were pretty good.
I always enjoyed them.
And I remember watching this and seeing how a small, a small engagement could expand into a much bigger deal involving these two nuclear powers and how things can spiral.
So, whether it's this movie or Sum of All Fears or any of those kind of Jack Ryan films, these were a lot of fun.
Absolutely.
And this one is my favorite.
And Wolf Shield, if I can, I made a few notes of, you know, I don't, I haven't listened to a lot of movie reviews.
I don't know how interested are people really going to hang their decision to see this film based on what we see, what we say or not.
I don't know, but I did make some notes of why you should absolutely see this, especially if you haven't already.
It is the quintessential political, military, techno-Cold War thriller.
Like I said, the fate of the planet hangs on the individual decisions of the sub-captains, of the National Security Advisor, of the crew, of the KGB.
And it's not at all fanciful or over-the-top jump the shark kind of stuff.
There was actually a case of a Soviet nuclear sub that went missing in the Pacific.
And there still remains some questions as to what exactly happened.
Maybe we'll talk about it later because it deviates from the movie review.
But this is, you know, truth stranger than fiction, et cetera.
This is an eminently conceivable defectors from the Soviet Union have flown fighter jets to the West.
I don't know if anyone's ever captained a submarine boat into main inland rivers, but regardless, you know, it's absolutely strategic.
The casting is, in my opinion, perfect.
Sean Cotton, go ahead.
Yeah, what a fantastic cast.
Like just every bit player in it was like fantastic.
You know, it was just incredibly stacked cast.
A lot of them hardly had any screen time, but like their screen time did, you know, you really was, it was very memorable, like Tim Curry's role.
Yeah, that was a very strange, that was a very different role for Tim Curry, playing like doctor on Russian service Nelly, pencil pusher.
You know, like he had a small part, but it was very memorable.
Okay, so I want to, Allison McKevitt has joined us.
Hey, hey, hey, can you guys hear me?
Hi, we can hear you just do I sound shitty?
I'm just on my headphones.
A little bit, but you sound you sound fine.
Oh, okay.
My bad.
Not like perfect sound, but it sounds good.
Cool.
All right.
How's everybody doing?
Great.
We are coaching here languishing with all the women.
Yeah, he was very angry and he was like threatening to quit the show and quit everything because there was like women involved.
Yeah, all the all these women on a show.
I don't know if my tea levels are growing or shrinking.
Yeah.
No, it's a nice, nice change of pace.
She just disappeared.
Oh, no, she got it.
I can't believe you did this to her.
Now we're balanced, right?
Oh, no.
Okay, there we go.
Outnumbered by the women again.
A taco fest.
Okay.
Ew!
That's disgusting.
Oh, my God.
I'm such a boomer.
I just left the whole show and had to come back.
Anna was asking, can people hear me?
Okay.
Can you talk, Anna?
Yeah.
Okay.
No, yeah, you're good.
Okay, good.
I don't have any headphones, so just you don't have any headphones?
Wait, what?
So I was scrambling for them the last five minutes.
I said, screw it.
Open mic, whatever.
Fair enough.
Okay, so let's go through the panel, see what people thought about the movie.
Let's start.
I'll start with Allison since she's joining us.
And she hasn't got a chance to talk too much.
You want my opinion on the movie?
Yes.
Well, I actually turned it off and watched Braveheart instead.
Oh, no.
Can't handle the truth.
That was Braveheart last night.
Then I thought, oh, wait, I would like to be explosive.
It was Sean Connery and Sam Neal's Russian that turned her off.
That was one of the very negative parts of the film.
They're Russian.
Not that I'm remotely fluent, but it was so bad.
How far did you get into it, Alice?
Do you really want to know?
You started.
So after you quit it, does that mean you need to upsell the movie here?
Did you watch the first 10 minutes and read the rest on Wikipedia?
I watched about 97 seconds and then was feeling anti-English.
So, you know, sometimes the mood just takes over.
Shit.
And there's nothing you can do.
Okay.
Anna, you didn't watch it, read the Wikipedia too.
I watched a little more than 97 seconds.
It's more like, I don't know, 100.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, she'll mute everybody else and just you, me, and James will talk about the movie.
Come on.
What kind of operation you're running here?
Well, I told you this is like the height of you.
Otherwise, I always watch.
Okay, Jenny is a conference.
There she is.
Always watches the movie.
She's a queen.
And I love that she actually puts in the effort.
Thank you so much for watching it.
What were your thoughts?
Okay.
I finished it two hours before the stream.
Which is a kind of record, really, because usually you finish movie listening.
You only finished 10 minutes before.
So yeah, I watched it and I hated their accent so much.
Why was the Russian ship Scottish in English?
Why?
Why?
It bothered me so much.
And it's not really a for me movie.
You know, I like my baby cartoons.
She loves her baby cartoons.
Definitely like way out of her wheelhouse.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I was telling you, Will Shielda, I like the parts where it would get so dark, I couldn't see anything and know what was going on whatsoever.
Have the spooky music, and I'm like, oh man, water things are happening.
You watch on your phone, like things to do.
Oh, jeez.
I heard, no, I heard you guys because I think some of your panel tried to watch it on Telegram and it didn't have the Russian subtitles on it.
So they were missing it on.
And I started, I started with that version and I said, no, no, no, I'm springing.
It's 350 on Amazon or 450 if you want to get ultra HD or whatever.
That's what I did.
Yeah.
There you go.
And like subtitles.
I need subtitles.
Like, I can't, like, you miss half of what's going on in a movie, really.
You don't have subtitles.
Yes.
Yes, this is true.
This is true.
I've seen the movie so many times.
I just remembered what they said.
We watched the legend version.
We don't know for sure.
Yeah, we watched the Telegram version with the kids.
Because apparently it's rated PG, even though there's, you know, shooting and they shoot some guy in the chest and they murder the political guy.
And so it's, you know, I think they were reducing the rating of the movie to get more people to watch the propaganda, which is a good move.
But also, they transitioned to English like relatively early in the movie.
And I really liked how, you know, just based on coloring and the cinematics, you could usually tell just by what color was on the screen, like what ship you were on or whether it was, you know, a U.S. or a Soviet boat.
And so I, you know, yeah, the I definitely agree that the I think everybody just needed to have this drawing that this map of explaining everything that you would have understood the movie.
Sure.
James makes a couple good points there too, in that there is zero pause in this film.
There's not like there's no romance.
Jack Ryan's married, of course, played by Alec Baldwin, who originally was, they wanted Kevin Costner to be Jack Ryan, but he was doing dances with wolves at the time.
And they wanted Harrison Ford, but he was doing something else.
So they actually got a likable, young, handsome Alec Baldwin.
I think most of the audience will probably think of him as like the fat, blustery guy from 30 Ray.
Very, very strange to see.
I was going to see, you know, didn't they know like build someone?
That was my first thought.
Yeah.
They what?
That's where he learned how to do it.
He killed him.
Yeah.
He shot, he shot that KGB officer on the submarine.
And that's where he learned how to do it on the side of that.
Oh, we went western.
Yeah.
And there's virtually no diversity too, James, right?
It's, it's nearly a 100% white cast.
Like, and James Earl Jones, like, he's like, he's essentially white.
You got Lufasa, and then you got the guy with the headphones on.
And that's autistic.
The autistic bonard.
Yeah.
He's a good character, though.
I liked him.
Yeah, Jonesy.
Yeah.
And James Earl Jones was great in it also.
It was just perfect cast.
Like everybody was really fantastic.
Scott Glenn, too.
He's not a famous actor.
The captain of the USS Dallas Burton.
What an underrated actor.
Like what underused, underrated actor.
Scott Glenn is great.
Like, yeah, he doesn't get enough, you know, recognition, I think.
And I forgot that Stellan Skarsgård was the sort of rogue.
Very young Stellan.
Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't rogue.
He was actually doing his government's bidding, which was to go kill Red October.
He's, if people don't recognize the name, he was the professor in Goodwill Hunting.
That's what you remember him from.
And most recently, he was the first.
Foodstrat Phil in Pirates of the Caribbean.
That's right.
And the big, fat, bad guy from Dune, too.
Exactly.
It was kind of interesting.
Some of the shots, you could really tell he looked like he's got like some sons working in Hollywood.
He kind of looked like Bill Skarsgaard sometimes in some of those shots.
And all these guys smoking in submarine.
I'm old enough to remember when you could smoke in restaurants and bars, but the idea of like everybody chain smoking in a really like crowded submarine.
Oh man, those were the days.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm kind of glad we're in the 90s.
Just one of those Sunday mornings going to Luby's after, you know, church and everyone having a cigarette in their hand while you're enjoying like a late breakfast, early lunch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We were a stronger people then.
Coincidence?
I don't know.
One other thing I wanted to mention here was that this was a legit blockbuster.
At the time, it was a 30 million budget for this film, which was a lot of money.
It shows.
It's visually spectacular.
The visual effects are not hokey.
It's crazy to think that this was a blockbuster because it's such an intelligent film.
And like an intelligent film like this would never be a blockbuster today.
Yeah, it's not entirely easy to follow.
You could argue that maybe there's a couple plot holes in there, but it made over 200 million.
It's one of the best Cold War films ever.
I looked at a couple reviews and it was easily in the top 10 in almost every other big one I can think of is Doctor Strangelove.
Dr. Strangelove.
Yeah, they're just completely different films, right?
Strange Love is great and Gonzo and almost, you know, it's a satire as well as a drama and stuff like that, but it doesn't take itself too seriously.
This movie is dead serious without being over the top on that.
I loved Dr. Zhavago.
Not exactly.
It's more like a Russian Soviet drama, of course, but it has elements of the Cold War in there.
And, you know, it was interesting that the book came out in 84 at the height of the second revolution, though.
It was.
And then I think it gets in, you're absolutely right.
It wasn't really Cold War.
I just still lump it in there as one of my favorite films.
But it was a concern when they released the film, which came out in 1990, because the book was written in 84 by Tom Clancy, of course, who at the time was a nobody.
He was an insurance agent on the Chesapeake Bay in Maryland.
And then he just gin, he's like a perhaps a nautical autiste.
He just creates this spectacular manuscript from whole cloth and like Jane's reviews of ships.
And apparently he hung around shipyards.
And there was a lot of discussion.
There's still debate whether he was an op of sorts, because at first they were questioning censoring the manuscript because it certainly appeared to have classified information in it.
And then everybody who was a little bit more skeptical said, there's no way that this random Joe living on the bay could have come up with this level of detail and knowledge, you know, without serving and stuff like that.
So there's still a little bit of mystery.
And hey, if it was a psyop, it worked on me, right?
Because I was absolutely captivated by his writing.
I used to get home from school and go up into my room with everything from Hunt for Red October all the way up to executive orders.
At some point, Clancy jumped a shark.
And he's still writing out.
No, he's he died.
And I think he got sick toward the end and all these ghost writers came in.
You know, it's like Tom Clancy's Rainbow 11 with John Clark, you know.
It's like with James Pat James Patterson, it's always like him and a ghostwriter.
And it's like, okay, well, that's clearly the ghostwriter did everything now.
As far as that slab you were talking about, that's actually the feeling I got reading into this, reading reviews, watching a little bit of the movie, because it reminded me of, huh, Top Gun Maverick, American Sniper, 13 hours.
This kind of sounds like the same neocon purpose of gearing towards, you know, boys or, you know, boys going into adolescence, maybe going into high school.
It seemed like it was geared towards that audience.
Huh, I wonder why.
What was the purpose behind trying to appeal to that audience?
Oh, like you said, I, you know, wanted to join the government.
I wanted to join the military.
I wanted to, that's the feeling I got from it.
Oh, so it made sense.
And Ronald Reagan, I read Ronald Reagan himself read and gave the book glowing reviews.
Nobody intended.
Glowing reviews.
So that was what supercharged it.
Yep.
When Reagan reviewed it, that's what sent it into the stratosphere in terms of the book sales.
Yes.
And it reminded me too.
I mean, I was too young to really like go to school and be like, I'm going to get good grades because the Soviets are working hard.
You know, that was more of a function of the 50s and the 60s.
But any good or strong militant empire or nation kind of functions better with a boogeyman waiting out in the wings, whether real or imagined.
And you can see that the system's trying to do that.
I don't think they're doing it very effectively with Russia.
China is probably an easier sell, but the country has been so hollowed out and they've so paused and gayed and diversified and trannied everything from the military to schools to the military academies that like, sorry, Charlie, no dice.
Like even if the Chinese are dead set on global domination and, you know, red dawn Chinese style, like you're not making a very compelling case for why I should, you know, enlist or go to one of the military academies or study really hard to beat those Chinese because we've been so culturally, intellectually enervated, eviscerated.
It's a civilizational tragedy.
It gives me no pleasure to say that.
But back in the 80s, 1990, the Berlin Wall had already come down when this film came out.
And the producers were concerned that they wouldn't have quite the cachet it did when people were more concerned about nuclear war.
But then they, thank God, they went through with it.
And now, you know, I just read a random blog post the other day that said, no, we are in World War III.
World War II didn't just magically kick off in August or September 1939.
It really started with the Japanese going into Manchuria in the early 1930s.
And the pressure built.
The pressure built.
And that's what we're seeing everywhere from, obviously, Israel obliterating the Palestinians, the Russians pushing back on what I view as our irrational, counterproductive imperial intrusion into their sphere of influence.
And China and Taiwan and take your pick and making enemies.
Back in the Cold War, we primarily had to worry about Russia.
We had pacified the Chinese at least and played them off.
Now we've got to worry about Russia.
We've got to worry about China.
We got to worry about Iran, North Korea, and God knows who else is going to enter that axis.
I'm not going to call it an axis of evil, but they have massive chips on their shoulders and the bills are coming due from decades of U.S. arrogance and imperial overreach.
And this film just like really just brings it back to what's past is prologue.
It's happening again.
Wolf Shield, should we talk just a little bit about the plot?
I mean, obviously no spoilers or whatever, but for a 40-year-old movie or whatever.
Yeah, fair enough.
Let's just kind of, yeah, some of the highlights.
Yeah, I try to like, I'm still trying to figure out what the show is and like how to best approach like a movie review show.
But yeah, let's start.
Yeah, just kind of start laying down the plot and whatnot.
Well, before you, before you do that, Rebecca, like, did you have any thoughts also on the movie?
Because I don't think you've said anything yet, Rebecca.
I did watch the whole movie all two hours and 16 minutes or whatever it was.
And I, I mean, I enjoyed it.
I mean, it was suspenseful and exciting.
And like y'all have said, like it, it actually was suspenseful and exciting while also being intelligent.
And I appreciate that.
That was so nice to have like a movie that like engages your brain, you know?
It's such a rare thing these, you know, these days.
Well, to really get it, you had to, you had to understand the motivations of the different factions.
And yeah, and it wasn't.
So it requires a certain level of IQ to kind of understand it.
So it, but, but it, yeah, it, it fully engages the intellect.
It's exciting.
There's consequences to the action.
You, you feel invested in the characters.
And yeah, it, it, it, it was really, really good propaganda.
For sure.
One of the, one of the themes I think that's arguably most important, there's a couple, there's a couple of themes I wanted to talk about that I maybe didn't appreciate back in the day, but I did on re-watching it.
And the thought comes in my mind, maybe this is a man's film.
It sounds like the majority of the women on the show, Rebecca, of course, is a fine respecter of good cinema.
No, but you know, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's nothing warm and fuzzy about it.
Like, you know, Jack Ryan's daughter is like in the beginning and then at the very end to tie it together.
But mostly the only whammy in it is like the daughter for three seconds, right?
Yeah.
Is that even his wife at the beginning?
He's, she's like, you're going to be late for your flight.
He's like, all right, later.
And then he's just off on the wild blue adventure.
So long, man.
But, you know, and this is probably what appealed to me at the time because Jack Ryan is, he's a CIA analyst.
He's a naval history writer.
He's temporarily stationed in London and he gets presented with this intelligence that the Soviet Union has a new submarine with a radically silent propulsion system that would enable it to get past our ships, our submarines, our sonar buoys under sub-sea, above sea, and essentially park itself off the east coast and potentially be an undetected first strike.
There's the nuclear triad, which is nuclear submarines launching missiles.
There's long-range bombers launching missiles.
And then there's ICBMs, the sort of land-based missiles that both the United States and the Soviet Union were deathly concerned about bilaterally throughout the Cold War.
And this would have changed the game.
So Jack Ryan, just like, I think the British intelligence gives him the intelligence, then he hops on a plane to Washington, but he is just an analyst.
He's like, I'm just the messenger boy, right?
He goes to see his buddy at the shipyard.
And there's a really poignant scene there where it might even be the actor from Howard the Duck.
He's got red hair.
Maybe the principal from Howard Ferris Bueller.
Okay.
He's like in jail for being a pencil.
Oh, geez.
Oh, yeah.
He looks like, if you remember the principal from Ferris Bueller, I didn't check to see what else he was in, but he's sitting there and he said, you know, when I was a boy, where is it here?
You know, my daddy sat me down and we built a bomb shelter in our backyard.
And he's like, that ship is made to be able to launch hundreds of missiles and we wouldn't even get out of bed before we knew it.
So that's what kicks everything off.
But Jack Ryan unwittingly launches himself into this whole drama because once he raises his theory that the Russians basically say, oh, we lost a submarine.
And they give the United States government the impression that Marco Ramius, the Lithuanian captain, he's sort of the alpha dog of the Soviet submarine force, has gone rogue and might actually be trying to start World War III.
When Jack Ryan, through his sort of esoteric knowledge of the captain and various details, he's the only one who thinks that he may actually be trying to defect to the United States.
And there's this great scene in some National Security Council boardroom where he just like all the generals and whatnot are bickering and he just slams the table.
Son of a little bit of, I watched this as a kid.
And like once it got to that part where they started talking about defecting, like I didn't understand, I didn't know what I watched it by myself when I was a like young teenager and I had no idea what defecting means.
And I didn't really understand the political subtext of everything going on.
And so the rest of the, like, I was like, follow, I'm like, okay, so he's going to try to blow up the Sean Connery's trying to blow up America or whatever.
And then like the, and then like, it just, I assumed that defecting meant he's going to blow up America.
And so the rest of the movie, they keep saying defecting and everything, but that like nothing made sense.
Like, why, why is everybody like trying to be nice to him if he's trying to blow up America?
Like, I couldn't.
Not irrational, too, right?
Like, he's, he went defective, maybe.
Yeah, like his brain was defecting from reason.
Yeah.
So it's a little to rewatch this and actually like understand the story now.
But, you know, Jack Ryan's like, I'm just an analyst.
I'm not cut out to this.
Send, you know, send some cowboy, send some special agent.
And they're like, nope, you're going to do it because he's expendable.
Because if he dies, it's not a big deal.
And it's kind of a cockamimi scheme.
So Jack Ryan became this famous character for many books and maybe many movies because he was kind of an everyman desk jockey bureaucrat who one stakes his basically his entire career and his profession on this wild theory that this submarine captain is not trying to start World War III but is actually trying to deliver us this intelligence coup par excellence into our hands.
That nobody really believes.
It's a huge gamble.
He's not just gambling his profession, he's gambling arguably, the fate of the world.
And then he has to overcome his own self-doubt.
He hates flying.
Uh, you know, he probably hasn't shot a gun in a long time.
He was in the Naval Academy crashed, and he's basically been riding the pine since then and he embraces it.
And there's one, one scene where a helicopter is trying to land him on top of the United States submarine in the middle of the Atlantic and they're like it's too.
People are getting shocked, the waves are choppy and the helicopter pilot's like, forget this, this is not happening.
And he just cuts the cord and jumps in the water and goes for it.
And then they fish him out and bring him on board to further the evaluation of what the op is going to be.
Uh, but you know the bureaucrat white man, very intelligent, but questioning himself about his theory of the world or this specific operation, is pretty poignant.
Uh, for a lot of us, I think.
Uh, for at least for myself, i'll say yeah particularly, you know, Because he's encountering this like intense pushback, like with his theory everywhere he goes.
And he has to be like, Yeah, really try to break everybody down.
It's quite a lot of work to try to do that.
And that was one of the things that was a little bit dicey in the plot or whatever is that basically the Soviet Navy and the American Navy are going to kill Rameus in the Red October because they legitimately think the Soviets know that he's defected.
He sent Ramius sent a letter to the Soviet high command telling them he was defective, which at the time I was like, why in God's name did he do that?
And then eventually he tells his co-conspirators that it was just like Cortez burned the ships upon landing in the new world so that there was no turning back.
And they're like, you son of a bitch, you know, this is crazy.
Now they're going to come, you just made this 10 times harder, you maniac.
Yeah, that really was definitely something that did make like I understood like it knew it kind of needed, he needed to do that for like the dramatic being, you know, and to raise the stakes.
But yeah, it really, there wasn't a very, very good reason.
And then go ahead, James, please.
But in a real sense, you know, you get everyone to agree with you when times are good, when everything's just an idea, but you need people in the moment when the pressure's on to be fully committed.
And so you need that kind of, let's burn the ships.
There is no turning back.
This is a one-way.
This is a one-way trip.
And I give us chances one out of three.
And that, and that was when it was just the Soviets after them, which I thought it was brilliant how they how they brought the Americans.
And so now you have all the military force of the Soviets plus all the military force of the Americans hunting this one ship.
And they just, the movie does such a great job building that tension over time throughout the movie.
Like before, you know, it's Ramius against, you know, the other Soviet subcaptain that he trained.
And then it's every other warship.
And then it's all a saboteur in your own ship.
And yeah, plus the saboteurs within the ship.
And like, just like your crew, like in general, like doesn't even know what's going on.
So you have to like, you know, deal with how to proceed everything you're doing and still keep them thinking that you're doing something else, you know.
And I never so many layers to everything.
And yeah.
Yeah.
Mentioned the KGB officer on the submarine.
You know, there's all sorts of redundancies and whatnot.
And they essentially had one overt KGB officer on the ship and one covert officer.
They didn't know who it was who, once that covert officer finds out what Ramius is trying to do, and essentially becomes a full-time saboteur.
Okay.
Okay.
I didn't pick up on that.
Is that, was that in the cook?
Yeah.
Did they spell that out in the in the movie or was that in the book?
Because I was like, when he's talking to the political officer, the overt political officer that gets murdered very early in the movie, he's like, you know, how many, how many other others are on my ship?
He's like, I would know.
I wouldn't know if there are.
Right.
But like after that, they don't really like explain the cash.
Right.
If you go back and watch it, there's a scene.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's just a cook.
He's looking on.
You'll see him in the background.
He's like, I anticlimactic when Alec Baldwin gets there.
He's like, a cook.
I liked that part.
Yeah.
And who the cook is this guy?
I haven't seen him yet.
Yeah.
And we didn't mention it, but I've never seen this done in film before.
It was really slick.
We talked a little bit about the Russian transitioning to English, but they zoom in before Rameus knocks off the KGB officer to enable him to enact his defection.
They zoom in on the officer speaking Russian.
And then once he hits Armageddon, which is the same word in Russian and English, then it starts to pan out and he's speaking English.
And I thought that was a slick way to do it.
Yeah, that's a very iconic shot.
And I've seen that them do that in other shows and movies like Lost.
You see the Lost?
They did that same exact thing, like where with Saeed, you know, they were speaking Arabic and I did the zoom in and then he started speaking English and it zoomed out, you know?
So it's a very iconic shot.
Very clever.
And one more thing on the on the Jack Ryan powers of persuasion that the orders have gone out to sink Red October and then he goes on this wild goose chase to the USS Dallas, which is closest to the Red October.
And perhaps the most ludicrous aspect of the plot, and I can't remember the book that well, whether it was in there, was that Jones, the black sonar expert, you know, this brand new submarine that's totally silent, nobody can hear it in the span of a few hours.
He's able to detect, you know, the sound of that submarine sounds like a magma displacement under.
So they're totally able to track this ship that is supposedly silent and going to cause World War III.
But yeah, Jack Ryan is able to somehow persuade the salty, no-nonsense Captain Mancuso to send up the periscope and try to gamble and parlay with Ramius.
It was a great fun that he like just took a complete like gamble, which way he might do it.
Yeah, yeah.
Rameus knows he's like, my concern is not the Soviet Navy.
I know the tactics.
It's the Americans we have to worry about.
Are we going to get a buckaroo or are we going to get somebody who can play?
And when and Jack Ryan's, he's basically just like making it up as he goes along on a piece of paper.
And then Mancuso is sending the Morse code over to Ramius.
And whatever, when he gave him the details, like, this is how we're going to pull it off.
Rameus just like pulls down the periscope like, oh my God.
Like it was just a really great scene where even he was unnerved by the sort of daring do of the Americans to propose something so apparently outlandish, really high drama.
Yeah.
I liked the back and forth of the two submarines a lot.
I liked the submarine sounds.
This sounds great.
Really good.
That was your favorite thing about the submarine sounds.
I already told you, I like Pacific Rim because I like all the spooky sounds.
So this movie really did that for me.
Sona, one ping only.
Yes.
Also, like, isn't it a thing that you're not supposed to shoot off anything in a submarine?
They were kind of going gung-ho with it.
Like, they're fucking losing it in there.
He's like, things do not react.
Kaiju.
Yes.
And then Alec Baldwin's crawling away and he's like, you know, he does.
Yeah.
Things in here don't react well to bullets.
Yeah.
Like me.
That was good.
That was fun.
But I really didn't like that they killed off Sam Neal.
I felt that was like completely unnecessary.
Oh, that was heartbreaking.
Yeah.
He should have made it to Montana.
Cinematic history.
Yeah.
That was one of the other themes I wanted to talk about, guys, was like the motivations.
Now, in the book, Ramius's wife, I believe, was perhaps killed or sickened through like Soviet skullduggery.
And that was maybe, you know, he was bitter about her death and that caused him to defect.
But the movie and Sam Neal, it's touching as well as being shallow.
And Sam Neal, who's, you know, he's second in command.
He's clearly a brilliant submariner.
He's a high-ranking Soviet official.
And he basically is like, yeah, I want to go to Montana and find like a fat wife and raise rabbits and be a snowbird down in Arizona.
I was like, what?
Like, you know, you're committing treason and like, you know, risking your life just on like an American film concept.
Like maybe Montana back then, but like, can you imagine like somebody gambling to defect and commit treason to like live in diversity land?
These days, I feel like it's more like people are more likely to like try to defect to Russia from America.
No, 100%.
Yeah.
From Ramius' point of view, I mean, I think you have to have some kind of life-changing, life-shattering event for you to start questioning like really fundamental things.
I'm sure, you know, he was a committed Soviet, you know, military man, you know, from the time he was young all the way up until his wife died.
And so he has this higher reason for defecting.
And then, you know, they also have to throw in the, you know, American consumerism pickup truck, you know, you know, white with big tits.
You know, maybe I'll need two of them kind of a deal.
He doesn't even mention having kids, right?
He just wants big boobies and rabbit meat that she cooks away.
I want stuff.
And so country music.
Yeah, he, he, he wants American consumerism.
And so there's the, the American, you know, military, you know, power, but then there's also the soft power, the, uh, the, the, you know, Xbox and, you know, chicken wings.
Sure.
Yeah.
And to, to be fair, there's one, you know, Ramius, ostensibly his motivation is he thinks that the submarine was built to start World War III, to be that first strike decapitation capable machine.
But then later on in the film, he goes full boomer too, where he's like, I would like to fish.
You know, he just wants to know, he just wants to have a cold one and fish, and he's willing to risk a watery grave or a Soviet torture and execution to just go fit.
Like, I'm pretty sure, you know, even in the Soviet Union, you could go fish.
But to be fair, there was a poignant scene in there with Sam Neal where he's talking about Montana and he asks about, and I can travel to Arizona without internal passport control or something, which was a very true thing.
In the Soviet Union, you couldn't just drive from Moscow to Kaliningrad, certainly not because it was separated, but to Vladivostok without a good reason, right?
Whereas, of course, here you want to pick up and hit the road.
You can do it.
So they're also travels across the states like literally like every, like, like twice a month, really, because I'm traveling all over America to go see, you know, people, friends, and whatnot.
I was like, yeah, that definitely hit hard for me.
They also talked about it in the mission.
They were going to, that Ramius tells the crew that they're going to do in the beginning that they're just going to sit off the coast and listen to American rock and roll before going on to Havana.
So yeah, there's rock and roll.
There's no papers.
There's thick latinas to solve the crew, right?
That's how we'll get them to chill out.
And so they compare and contrast the overwhelming, burdensome nature of having the political person on the boat, having the KGB spy on the boat, needing papers to travel all across the Soviet Union with American freedom rock and roll rabbits in Montana.
So it like the propaganda was, again, it was done well.
It was, it, it, it didn't rang through, you know, eating it.
And it probably reflected, you know, it absolutely accurately reflected a different time in the American national security apparatus where almost everyone was a hyper patriotic, competent, straight white man, you know, James Earl Jones and Jonesy aside.
They were Fred Thompson.
They were like diversity hires back in the day, really.
Yeah, I mean, maybe it existed to a certain extent, but in terms of outreach or whatever, but now anyway.
Yeah.
Fred Thompson does a great job as the salty commander of the fleet, essentially, who thinks that he's a little bit crazy, but he's willing to gamble on it too.
There's a lot of really nice, subtle.
Uh just moments in the film that aren't necessarily like that significant, but they're just perfectly acted.
There's a wonderful national security advisor I forget his name who's got a smooth southern drawl at one point.
You know he's talking to Jack getting him to go on the mission and he says, look, i'm a politician, which means i'm a cheat and a liar, and when i'm not kissing babies i'm stealing the lollipops.
You know, just like slick, slick as whale, essentially the way he delivered that.
Yeah, he's so honest, brutally honest, and he's just like yeah you're, you're just like we're.
Just, you were just uh yeah, unless he's straight hair disposable, that's the only reason why you realistic, etc.
Uh, another scene I loved is when uh, before Ramius's letter is opened in Moscow, the some Soviet high-ranking officer.
He's walking into the office, he's an old guy and everybody's like, you know uh Dobriutre uh Camerad yeah, sort of reflected the uh, the ennui, or perhaps a little bit of fatigue in late stage Soviet Union with the officialness of everything.
And then when he opens the letter to realize what his dear friend Marco Ramius is about to do, he spills his tea on the table.
It's a great little bit of uh visual uh, representation of like, building up the tension and having, you know this, this kind of uh, dramatic moment.
Yeah, absolutely yeah Sam, Neal never makes it to Montana.
The good guys win um, and there's even, you know, at the very end well, I guess that's a spoiler, but at the very end, when Jack Ryan, you know, Baldwin and Connery are looking out the con of the or, you know, at the par, at the top of the submarine sorry for the lingo failure there and it's just the moonlight and they're sailing up the river and they're sort of kicking it.
There is maybe I was reading too much into it, but there was a little bit of Transcontinental, White Alpha, brotherly solidarity there.
Uh, that I personally wish could be rejuvenated.
It's probably a bridge too far at this point.
Uh, those bridges are burned uh, but but what could have been?
You know that was the very end of the, of the Uh 19.
You know the Soviet Union collapsed 1991.
By 1990 uh, they were already pulling out of eastern Europe.
The Berlin Wall had fell and it reflected, I think uh, a great bit of optimism.
I mean, that was, you know, one of the crowning achievements of the United States was winning the Cold War.
All the other stuff aside, that was a monumental military political, economic struggle.
And here you have the Soviet captain and the American CIA guy uh, just sort of sailing up a river in Maine after pulling off the dramatic coup of the century, perhaps at least for American intelligence.
Uh, it's a touching scene.
To close out, the film uh, after you know, Jack of course, overcomes his fear of flying by being so dead dog tired, he's essentially just running on Pervitin or Pervitin, you would think throughout the whole film.
No sleep till Brooklyn, no sleep till Penopscott or whatever it was.
Yeah, it was better watching it 10 years, 20 years after I watched it the first time than it was originally.
It aged really well.
Yeah, I was worried because I've gone back and like tried to watch MacIver or something like that.
And it's almost unwatchable.
And this movie holds up remarkably well.
Yeah, there's no cheese to it.
It's very serious.
It's very competent.
It's beautiful.
And yeah, even the special effects come through well.
Wolf Shield, I wanted to mention, if I could, the one like historical analog to this.
There's a documentary for free.
I forget where I saw it.
But there was a Soviet submarine named K-129.
You can find it on Wikipedia and stuff.
1968, it was sent into the Pacific in the area of Hawaii to conduct some sort of drills.
We don't know exactly what it was, missile drills, reconnaissance, et cetera.
But essentially, it went to the bottom of the sea and the Soviets went out to try to find it, could not find it.
The Americans were like, what the hell are, you know, something's going on.
They're looking for something.
They must have lost the sub.
So then the Americans end up finding it way closer to Hawaii than it was supposed to be.
There's like an oil slick and it has radioactive materials or qualities.
So the CIA basically gets tasked with not just finding the submarine five miles down, something like that, but pulling it up to the surface.
And they hire Howard Hughes to create a boat that is on the surface looks like some sort of subsea harvester of magnesium like minerals or something like that.
That's the cover story.
When in reality, it's this massive ship with a sort of hollow core that built a giant claw to go down to the bottom of the sea, grab this sub and bring it to the surface because they wanted to have the codes.
They wanted to see what the nukes were, all that.
I mean, virtually an intelligence coup on par with Red October minus the silent drive.
And supposedly they pulled up the sub and then part of it broke off and dropped to the bottom of the sea.
But this is all 100% true.
They recovered part of the sub at least and the bodies of some Soviet sailors and they actually gave them a dignified burial at sea, filmed it with Russia, with a Russian speaker there.
And then it was either toward the end of the Cold War or after that we delivered the footage of our respectful subsea and tearing of these sailors to the Russian government to sort of bring closure to it.
Fascinating story.
How many years after they did that?
Did they actually like send that?
So the sub went down in 68.
The Glomar Explorer was in effect in 74.
And then the story broke in 1975.
I missed how it got leaked, you know, whether somebody leaked it or it was just so ludicrous that somebody found out.
And so that was when they brought up, again, probably at least part of the sub, maybe all of it.
And they said that they lost some of it to keep it secret.
But I believe it was not until the end of the Cold War when we turned over literally like a VHS tape.
I don't know how you'd do it today, but they were like, here, we just want you to know that we buried the remains at sea respectfully in the spirit of perhaps being actual, if not allies, at least not enemies back in the Halcyon days of the post-Cold War era.
K-129, look that up.
It's a fascinating story.
Well, and then there's, you know, there's other defection stories.
There's other stories of equipment getting, you know, where it shouldn't.
So I think a lot of people know about the Russian pilot of a MiG that flew to the United States.
But even George W. Bush, early in his presidency, there was a, I forget the name of the aircraft, but it was basically a spy aircraft, a listening aircraft off the coast of China.
Yeah.
And Chinese were getting pissed off that we kept flying planes really, really close to their airspace.
There was a mid-air collision.
And man, I got to tell you, I was surprised they didn't like ditch in the water or whatever, but they landed on a Chinese.
Yeah.
And didn't the Chinese like send back the plane in pieces or something like that?
They're like, yeah, we got your plane.
We'll turn it to you.
Yeah, it was a massive scam.
Yeah, it was a massive happening early, very early pre-9-11 in the Bush administration.
The Chinese were like, no, FU, you're not getting your plane back.
Sorry, it crashed landed on our territory.
The pilots, I think, said that they destroyed or self-destructed the sensitive communications cryptography stuff.
But you're absolutely right that the Chinese took that thing apart inch by inch and sent it back in pieces.
Here you go.
Yeah, I was, I had friends in the military.
They were, they were very, they, they thought it was just a scandal that they didn't just, you know, crash in the ocean or something like that.
The idea that you would land on enemy territory was something like that.
And then I remember the interviews like on Fox News and everything.
And they'd have the analyst on and they had this old grizzled general that reminded me of the of the American subcaptain.
And he's like, well, I, you know, if it were up to me, the plane would already have been obliterated.
Like he's like, he's like nothing that four Tomahawk cruise missiles can't can't take care of.
Yeah, they could, that would have been a ballsy move.
I guess, you know, Bush was newly in office and not quite up to cowboy status that 9-11 gifted him.
And more recently, there was a Russian, I don't know if he was a fighter pilot or just a regular rank and file guy, but regardless, a not insignificant Russian soldier or pilot defected to Ukraine and then eventually migrated all the way to Spain to, in theory, live the good life.
I don't know if they have a witness protection program for Russian defectors, but he got whacked in Spain over the past few months.
And almost certainly Russian intelligence, FSB, or whatever they use for those sort of wet works just went and killed him.
So no, you do not defect from us to the West.
We're going to send the message and you can't necessarily blame him for that.
Yeah.
Hey, I recommend it.
I don't know if it's streaming for free on the only things that I had were like Amazon Prime and Freevy and what the rest.
And I just had to go with the Amazon Prime, but I think it's absolutely worth it and probably is more worth reading the book perhaps first or reading the book alone.
I've been trying to get our oldest, 12 years old, to read The Hunt for Red October for his old man, you know, maybe kindle a little bit of interest in the old game.
No success yet, though.
He's still big into sci-fi.
I have a question about the book.
Does the book explain what happened to his wife a little bit better?
Because the movie leaves it very ambiguous.
Right.
Like I got the feeling that it was almost like there was some sort of like revenge type thing for what happened to his wife, but they don't explain what happens to his wife.
Exactly.
It's ambiguous in the film.
You know, Ryan somehow remembers that it's the anniversary of his wife's death, the date that he set sail from Murmansk in the north, you know, to start his journey of defection.
In the book, I think I remember there being some sort of, you know, whether she ran afoul of the Soviet authorities or whether she was poisoned by, you know, working in a mine or something like that.
But I believe that his wife's death was absolutely the primary driver for Ramius to do it.
And, you know, and the other thing too is that the rank and file on the sub are totally oblivious.
They're kind of treated like proles.
And it's really maybe half a dozen, the engineer, the second in command, the sonar operator, et cetera, that he needed six or seven men to be in on the plot and then just sell a pack of lies to the rest of the sailors who they are able to successfully get off the submarine to go back to Mother Russia.
You know, his intent was not to keep them captive or say, by the way, yes, you are going to defect to the United States with me.
It was just him and a small band that decided to commit treason to go to the West for their, you know, Raymond's wife aside.
Just Montana fat, you know, fat bitches pick up trucks and raisin rabbits.
That's that, you know, if you look under the hood, it's like a little dubious there, you know, but maybe that's good enough in the American mind.
That's all it takes to seduce somebody to come this way.
I was going to say, I looked it up.
The wife died of, she had ovarian cancer and there was an incompetent doctor.
And so he was deeply affected by that.
And the doctor was the son of somebody important.
So the doctor could not be punished.
So I guess that kissed them off.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Soviet incompetence.
There you go.
Soviet incompetence.
And they did have a massive problem.
You know, supposedly the dictatorship of the proletariat essentially became a dictatorship of haves and proles, you know, the animal farm style, not completely off there.
It said he had a long-standing dissatisfaction with the callousness of the Soviet establishment towards its sailors and his fear of the destabilizing effect of the Red October would have on world affairs.
So I guess that's why he was like, I want to fish.
I just want to fish.
He's a boomer.
I just want to grill.
I just want to see.
Yeah, it sounds like a Soviet libtard to me.
Mwah, mwah, mwah.
Mo wife and Mo fishing.
Let's go to America.
Pretty shaky ground there, Ramius.
Yeah.
So mostly, partially joking.
So Jenny, you messaged people beforehand and you said this movie is boring.
No!
No!
I had to throw you under the bus.
Oh my God, what a fellow.
James, you picked well.
God.
I went back and watched it, okay?
jenny what the f**k now she has somebody to throw it under the bus And I do research on it so I can form an opinion within two hours.
You know who else didn't like it?
Lauren Southern hated the film too.
Yeah.
So I'm going to talk about it.
I don't hate it.
Wow.
I was just like, this is a boy movie.
Was there anything you did like about the movie?
Was there any like scenes in particular or personal?
Yeah, just the two submarines when the Americans come up on Marco's submarine.
I was like, I like this.
It's actually very tense and I'm drawn into it now.
I know it took like almost two hours for me to be like, ooh, but, you know, that was this.
Oh, boy.
I mean, it is kind of boys and their toys, right?
You know, like fate of the world in our hands with our fancy submarines and our missiles and all the rest of our giant symbols.
Boys and their toys and they want to defect for bits and things.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Coach, so you were a teen or preteen reading the book, but I mean, this was at a time when, you know, stealth aircraft were becoming known to the public, when we had these kick-ass aircraft carriers and these submarines.
And I was just learning about the nuclear triad, like what that meant.
And so I guess when you also understand more of the military stuff, it's even more exciting because the idea that Coach was saying earlier, you can launch missiles.
You can deliver nuclear warheads from land-based missiles from a plane and from these subs.
And the thing about these subs is like they have dozens of missiles on them and each missile contains multiple warheads.
And so one missile gets off and there's like, you know, a half a dozen or more cities gone and they have dozens of these things.
And so you have.
Nerding out about the military isn't going to make this more paleo girl.
Not at all.
But I guess knowing about the military aspect of it makes it more exciting because the idea is that if you don't know where one of these is, then you're toast in any kind of war.
Like you have to know, you have to have an American attack submarine trailing every single one of these boats.
And so understanding like why they were so they thought it was such a big deal that they'd had this silent drive, why they had a new boat launched and they had an American attack submarine right there ready to start recording and figuring out what ship this was.
It was very realistic, even just from, you know, nerding out about American military stuff as a teenager in the 90s.
Deathly responsible duty, for sure.
I don't buy for a second that the Cold War was all smoke and mirrors and there wasn't that real threat of global nuclear annihilation.
And then when the Cold War ended, I was just listening to a former CIA officer on the Russians with Attitude podcast, who, by the way, they like totally went off script and like started crapping on WN, perhaps because they were drinking on Victory Day, regardless.
And he said, after Larry Johnson said, after the fall of Berlin Wall collapse of the Soviet Union, you know, the CIA, and he's very hostile, critical of the CIA.
He said, you know, we're basically, he didn't say it, but they're stuck holding, holding their dicks with nothing to do.
And when I was in seventh grade, 1993, we had to write a report on what we wanted to be when we grew up, or, you know, a career report.
And I chose a career in the CIA.
And my English teacher just happened to know an analyst at the CIA.
So she got me connected with him and I interviewed him.
And he was like, well, Matthew, you know, if you like writing reports that you don't get credit for, then a career as a CIA analyst is for you.
That's literally, I don't know if he was near retirement or whatever, but he was not like, he was not trying to sell me.
Yeah.
He was like very jaded and bitter almost on the phone.
I was like, okay, Mr. Smith.
It wasn't Smith.
But he said, you know, he quoted the CIA director at the time, the famous line, I think it was Richard Deutsch, perhaps, or Robert Deutsch, who was the CIA director, a Jew, by the way, real creepy looking guy.
You know, we slayed the dragon, but there's still many dangerous snakes in the jungle.
That was the narrative that the CIA was pushing post-Cold War, pre-9-11 to justify their budgets, their black ops, et cetera, sort of creating the terrorist boogeyman.
Now, of course, terrorists exist.
Yes, they wanted to destroy the United States or attack the United States, or perhaps just our multiple bases overseas, et cetera.
But that was how they justified it.
And then 9-11, of course, it's a painfully probably true meme that for those of us fortunate enough to the 90s were like our 50s.
Of course, I don't know the 50s, but it seems to be a Halcyon time in American life.
Economy was good.
Culture was mostly wholesome.
Yes, there was a big fear of nuclear weapons and Sputnik and all the rest of it.
But yeah.
I kind of think about like the beanie baby phenomenon of the 90s and how like that was just like, you know, such a snapshot of like just this, this like name before the storm of like, uh, you know, shit that would go downstairs.
Yeah, heads.com, all that.
Yeah, I think so.
Like it was beanie babies and it was like 9-11.
You know, that's that's how I kind of viewed the 90s.
That time, period.
Charles Krauthammer, I got no love for the man, but he called it not just the unipolar moment, but he called the 90s our holiday from history.
You know, Bill Clinton, you know, grunge music.
You know, I remember it crystal clear.
And it was a relatively carefree time to grow up as a young person in America.
And I strongly doubt we'll ever get back that sort of naive innocence for sure, obviously.
All this stuff was getting put in motion already.
But we didn't have to worry about nuclear war.
We didn't have to worry about Afghanistan or Iraq or even necessarily Saddam Hussein.
We had just knocked him off in 91, August 91.
The Soviet Union was still around when we invaded Iraq and they just sort of sat on their hands.
So, and what's happening now, to just do a little bit of geopolitics or analysis, is to me, a massive, not just national security unfolding disaster for our people, for the military, for the budget, but to, I believe very strongly that we made an enemy of Russia where it didn't have to be.
Now, was Russia ever going to join NATO and be like a fully functional member of the West?
No, probably not, because they are not purely Western.
They are very distant cousins of ours in the great white family tree.
But we drove them into the arms of China, not just by the rapacious Jewish oligarchic capitalism after the Soviet Union fell, but by pushing NATO eastward by having no reasonable limits.
Like, okay, I could understand why you're sensitive about Ukraine, Russia.
We'll back off there.
But no, we had to push and then whatever you think of Putin or whatever you think about Russia, whether they're the glorious Third Rome, you know, bringing Christianity back and fighting back against the new evil empire, or whether you think they're a horrible Asiatic horde of, you know, other side of the shekel.
I think any rational leader and country would say, no, we actually have red lines.
Like our red lines are in Syria, right?
Or like in the middle of Afghanistan or something.
They're like, no, this country that used to be part of ours is a red line and you're going to respect it or else eventually you're going to pay the consequences.
And many Russians think that Putin sat on his hands for way too long and let everything from 2014, Maidan, the constant shelling of Donbass, that he waited too long and was too conservative and too restrained in waiting until 2022.
And I always put it, look, if the United States lost the Cold War and Texas broke apart and maybe New England broke apart, I mean, that was the scale, maybe California, that was the scale of the population, territory, materials, assets, resources loss that the Soviet Union lost when it broke apart.
And then imagine the Warsaw Pact came up into Mexico, right?
And then they were talking about adding Texas, sovereign Texas, as a member of the Warsaw Pact.
Do you think the rump United States or whatever came after it would not be extraordinarily hostile to the idea of the Soviet Union's military alliance coming right up, not just on our border, our former border, but into what used to be our territory?
It boggles the mind that anybody could be so arrogant as to push that.
We're facing the consequences now.
And I think everybody on this call understands where that arrogance and hubris and chutzpah comes from.
Rant over.
I'm sorry I had to get.
I have to get that off my.
I listened in geopolitics for a little bit here and it's like, wasn't that the whole time?
Yeah fictional fictional, rear view mirror geopolitics versus tying it, tying it together, our grim age.
Now it's interesting because back in the 90s you know, like I was saying, you had all these fancy new toys coming around and now it's down to Russians can produce you know howitzer shells faster than we can, and so it's like it's not the super high tech.
I mean, maybe drones are new and and you know these little flying bombs and shit like that, but now it's just a freaking slog fest.
And and to go from you know the 90s high-tech stealth aircraft, stealth boats and and you know intercontinental ballistic missiles, and now it's just like trenches and shelling it.
It's remarkable how things change.
Cheap, cheap ass, mass produced drones coming to blow you to death in a foxhole right, like it's sort of time.
It's a weird dystopian, like World War One.
Trenches meeting high tech yeah yeah, even even in Israel, you know, you got guys flying in on on.
You know freaking flying mopeds.
You know it's crazy.
Is there still like nuclear submarines, just like uh, just prowling around, like absolutely yeah, and is it like, are there other, like it does, like China, have nuclear submarines like yep prowling around and stuff like yeah bombers, yep and icbms?
Yeah, there's a, there were a lot of agreements, countries are are getting this capability and, and while there's, you know, not every nuclear power has, you know, these kind of boats uh they, you know, they are like when you're talking about Iran, they're trying to figure out a delivery method, you know.
So they, they have.
They're trying to demonstrate to Israel okay, we may not have uh, we may not have demonstrated whether we we do or do not have nuclear weapons, but we can reach out and touch you, and so that's what their ballistic missiles, that's what they're trying to communicate and so yeah, I there is, it's more than just the United States and Russia that have these nuclear boats right, that's um, the Chinese have them, I probably Israelis have at least one nuclear sub for old mr Sampson option yep, yep.
So, along with, like British and French right yep British French, of course, India and Pakistan uh, are now nuclear declared uh, but I don't think they have nuclear subs, they're just uh, you know, planes and and missiles, essentially they're, they're locked in their own little local nuclear destruction, North Korea.
I don't know if they have dedicated nuclear oh yeah missile boats, but they have the ability to to launch them from sea.
Yep absolutely, I forgot about the Norcs.
Yeah, they're nuclear powered too.
So it's, it's.
You know, back to the future, back to the good old days but uh, with many more players, I mean you you could make an argument that when it was just the United States and the Soviet Union facing off against each other, at least you had sorry to the ladies, But you had white men essentially in charge of, for better or worse, of the nuclear football and the suitcase.
And things are a lot wilder now and more diversified in terms of the nuclear risk, which I don't lose sleep over getting nuked to death, but I think the risks tick higher the longer the hostility with Russia goes.
And like I said, Russia and China are increasingly in a firm alliance, military, economic, et cetera.
What a nightmare.
What strategic idiot decided to take the largest country and the biggest economy with now the second largest population, India, has overtaken them and drive them into each other's arms.
Absolute catastrophe that's going to come back to bite us in the ass.
It already is now.
From 1990 to 2024.
Yeah, 34 years from the prospect of a new world order without any of the bad connotations to this.
Totally catastrophically mangled management of the post-Cold War era.
It doesn't really feel like very tense, though, like it did during the Cold War, like the heights of the Cold War during whenever it was that people were really freaking out about it.
Like you don't really ever hear about this or get any kind of panic in media about it.
Yeah, they did that with the terrorism, of course, you know, mushroom clouds over Washington as the justification to go into Iraq.
And, you know, we have to fight them over here.
So we don't have to fight them over there.
So we don't have to fight them here.
They did that.
And I mean, you've certainly seen them demonize, you know, the Trump-Russia collusion and electoral hacking was just absolutely fabricated out of whole cloth.
They're trying to make the Chikoms.
It's the Chikoms.
Right.
Which I actually think is legitimate.
Like there's the only country on earth currently that challenges a global strategic threat to us is the Chinese, just by virtue of their size, their strength.
They're growing.
They're growing more powerful as we are growing less powerful, at least relatively.
But it doesn't have to, you know, it would have to take an honest and like sane politician, national leader to say it doesn't have to be this way.
I mean, if you think about it, we have the entire Western hemisphere essentially to ourselves.
There's some realm where you can be like, listen, China, you have a realm of a sphere of interest that we're going to respect, but that's not how we just, we just don't, we don't have anything resembling a shred of humility to say that.
So whether it's going to be China and Russia or just China, you know, the Chinese have been playing a very patient long game.
I remember in the late 90s, you know, the rising superpower of China was on the cover of Newsweek with like a scary Chinese enlisted guy with red binoculars up to his eyes.
You know, this has been known for a long time.
Obama famously pivoted to Asia, sort of admitting or acknowledging that that was the future strategic challenge to the United States.
And it's true to a certain extent, but our biggest liability and weakness is, of course, on the home front.
From debt to demographics to culture to competence, you're not in Kansas anymore.
So whatever the Chinese designs are, either on Taiwan or on the world, are relatively irrelevant if your country is crumbling, collapsing under its own weight and Jewish mismanagement.
I'll say it.
Yeah.
And Israel, you know, the Republicans bending over.
Like I've never seen genu flexion and such disgusting sycophancy.
Like I've seen House Republicans in particular and congressional Republicans for the state of Israel.
I stand with Israel.
I stand with Israel.
More money, more money, more money.
It's just unbelievable.
Like, aren't the Democrats also pretty much like I stand with Israel or are they not?
Yeah, they got a few dissenters with the vote for the vote for the new arms tranche.
They bundled it all.
Ukraine, Ukraine, Taiwan stuff, and of course, Israel, along with the TikTok ban.
I think it was something like 70 House Democrats who voted against it and 30 House Republicans.
Don't get me wrong.
It's not like the Democrats are not in it.
Because Nancy Pelosi was like, you know, even if America burns down, you know, you know, so like, who says we will always stand with Israel?
Like, like, Israeli nuclear weapons are flying toward Washington and the Republicans in the bunker are like, we, we said always.
We meant it, you know, still, we'll still send them our money from from the day after.
Yeah, the truth is.
Like the USS Liberty.
We must protect our greatest ally.
Yeah.
Sometimes you just got to laugh.
You know, it's, it's stranger than fiction.
It's kind of a waking nightmare.
And I think, seriously, I think that more people are awake now than ever before.
The state of the movement or the cause, notwithstanding, there's more people who are aware of Jewish power and malignant influence in the United States than ever before.
There's never been a better time.
The relative glasnost or openness of Twitter these days, people getting their accounts back is good progress.
Are you back?
I am lurking and I need to appeal.
I really want to get the original full house account back.
I've tried in the past and just it goes into a black hole.
So I'm just lurking for it basically just to stay on top of everything and perhaps harvest some content.
But no, I want to get that account back.
And you just let Milo back on.
All these people are getting back on.
And I'm not a fire breathing lunatic.
I think like Stryker was kind of contending that it's like the hardcore Trump supporters that are like, you know, kind of white nationalists that Jason will be kind of let back on.
I don't know.
I mean, yeah, you know, letting Keith Woods back on is a big deal.
I'm no fan of Fuentes, but he irritates me less than he used to, if only by virtue of the fact that he's going pretty hard on Israel and their control of the GOP.
You know, I'm not, I'm not a terrible grunge, not a grunge guy, not a grudge guy either.
So even if I find you annoying and perhaps crypto gay and snarky, like if you're like naming the Jew to millions of eyeballs every day, like, God bless you, you know, good work because that is the head of the snake.
I hope I'm not going to risk getting you.
I didn't mean to go too hard.
I don't know if you need to edit any of this out for YouTube or whatever, strikes and whatnot.
I don't know.
I think it's going to be clean.
Yeah, language-wise.
Yeah, we aren't.
But I don't think it'll be too much of an issue.
No, YouTube, we had Full House up on YouTube.
Our producer even used to go through and painstakingly edit out anything that was remotely profane or whatnot.
No music.
And they just nuked us.
There were no warnings.
They just absolutely decapitated us.
So we're only on Telegram and our website and Gab and the RSS feed.
I've kind of grown resigned to it.
Rumble, do Rumble, do Odyssey or whatever.
My internet doesn't support video streaming until I get Starlink.
And it's also like, we're here, you know, whatever.
Yeah, I mean, like, if my YouTube goes down, I guess, you know, I have Odyssey also.
It is what it is, you know.
He's got options.
Yeah.
Oh, and I wanted to mention real quick, Wolf Shield.
I was not flexing by face fagging with my icon there, but that was my Studientzyski Biliet photo from Russia 2001.
That was me at the age of 20 in Moscow.
That was the, I had that picture in my photo album, yeah, for my little, my student ID to be in Moscow.
And interestingly enough, I got stopped on the streets in Moscow then all the time.
I am relatively tan or swarthy, but it was, I don't think it was because of that.
It was just because the, you know, the street officers, Militia, as they called them, just recognized that I was not from there.
So they would stop me all the time.
And then documentary.
You're a little swarthy.
Papers, please.
Yeah, yeah.
They would do it.
They would do it.
You're getting racially profiled for culturally profiled.
No, I don't think it was.
I think they just recognized me as a Westerner.
I didn't fit in too well, at least in terms of the clothing and stuff.
But they would just say documenti.
And I'd always have my passport on me, show it to them with the visa, and then they let me go on my way.
And they would do that to Tajiks, Central Asian.
If you looked really swarthy on the streets, you saw guys getting stopped all the time.
Now, that was 2001.
But at the time, as a total normie, I said, man, Russia is the most racist country I have ever.
It's the most racist place I've ever been.
Somewhat disapproving, but not entirely.
I was like, these people, like, you know, and all the stuff about like Russia being totally non-white and mongoloid and stuff like that, it's nonsense.
They just had their May Day parade, May 9th Victory Day against, of course, Nazi Germany.
And I, you know, go watch that footage.
It's always spectacular, whatever you think about that.
Oh, it's, it's, yeah, it looks like the whitest country on earth.
You know, I think the whitest countries on earth are Belarus and Iceland.
They're working on Iceland.
And somebody once made the great point that if Russia was this evil, you know, like Central Asian funneling migrant factory, then Belarus, which is an independent country, but borders Russia very tight, tightly integrated, Belarus would have been getting paused.
But instead, Belarus is the whitest country on earth.
Iceland also, I think, has like the biggest boobs.
I think that's like the whitest and the biggest boobs.
So, you know.
Squad goals.
Yes.
Yeah.
See, Ramius was stupid.
He could have just cut right to Iceland and he didn't have to go to Montana.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you haven't been, you haven't been back to Russia since 2001?
No, I went back once in 2006 for a few days for work.
I worked for an association at the time.
It was, it was a conference, essentially.
And that honestly was formative in me developing my positive, relatively positive opinions about Russia.
Because when I was there in 2001, Moscow was dirty, dangerous, drunken.
You would encounter, I didn't see it personally, but a student friend of mine totally saw a dead frozen bum like at a bus stop one morning.
I absolutely saw men passed out in pools of their own vomit and urine on the subway, like on a Friday or Saturday night.
It was kind of the Wild West.
That wasn't like in America at the time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, you know, it was a dirty, dangerous city in 2001.
Putin came to power essentially in 2000, right after Yeltsin abdicated New Year's Eve, 1999.
And then going back to Moscow in 2006, it was cleaner, more sober, more orderly, and I had a wonderful time.
So in the span of five years, I do give a ton of credit to Putin for taking a country that was bankrupt, on its knees, depressed, dangerous, alcoholic, et cetera, and setting out the right course.
It was visually and viscerally apparent that it had turned around.
And I have friends, associates, people I'm in comms with who have been back to Russia more recently and said, holy cow, it was wonderful.
It was safe.
Even as an American, I was not harassed or questioned.
You know, I probably got more document checks than people who go over there today.
I don't know if that's true or not, but regardless, whatever you think about them, they took a terrible situation, basically abject poverty.
And, you know, they were on their knees and they have rejuvenated their national power, prestige, pride to the point where now the West is worried about them again.
And that is a significant achievement, even if you think they're our enemies.
Yeah, I mean, like Tucker went over there and he did that video about their public transport and whatnot.
Sure.
Grocery store.
Yeah, the grocery stores, the subways.
You see the videos on Twitter, you know, like this is Moscow.
What do you notice?
Everybody's white.
Do you think you'll ever try to get back?
I would love to visit for sure.
As you guys probably know, my wife was born in the United States, but she has Serbian citizenship.
So we've been to Serbia.
It's been a long time.
But, you know.
How is Serbia?
I enjoyed it, but it was much more family focused.
And we like drove around the country in a packed little minivan for a long time.
And then we like partied on the barges that they have on the river Sava.
I didn't have enough time there to judge it.
I enjoyed it.
But to me, Mosque, like I hate big cities.
I don't ever want to go back to New York City or Los Angeles, maybe for a couple of days and get the hell out of there.
But I lived in Moscow for four months and it was just absolutely intoxicating.
The history, Red Square, architecture.
So absolutely.
The art, you know, art galleries, statue galleries.
It's a feast for the senses.
I even grew to love the food, of course, the vodka.
You know, when I was there in college, I was more interested in partying and chase.
And that was where I actually met my wife.
She was on the same study abroad program as I was.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, technically, we met in the United States before we went over on the program, you know, orientation, but it was over there that we fell in love and hit it off.
I joked that I went over there thinking I was going to find some leggy Russian broad and she probably thought she was going to find somebody who looked like a Vondrago.
And what do you know?
You know, we both spoke English and liked to dance and had that in common in a sort of study abroad romance.
So that's how it happened.
So many jokes that I'll came from.
Oh, that was Allison.
You broke up a little bit.
Of course it was you with so many jokes.
Yeah.
Well don't keep them to yourself.
want to hear these jokes you have to tell the story of when you got put up against the law by the gangsters Oh, what is the, what are the gangsters in Russia called their mafia?
Mafia, yeah.
I can't, I don't know.
You had striker on to talk about brat.
I'm sure that word came up at some point, but I don't recall the specific word for whatever you would call it, you know, the Russian mafioso.
But no, what's that?
Is it bratva?
I'm not sure it would be.
That's the first thing that comes up when you look it up.
Yeah, maybe that's why the movie was called.
Oh, sure.
Yeah.
Real quick.
So, you know, I went to this small private university, Mejdund Rodney University Mosque.
And like there was an alleyway connecting it to the Stilovaya, which is basically like a low-end cafeteria.
And we would go back and forth at lunchtime every day.
And one day I was with a group of three or four fellow American students walking back from the cafeteria to the university.
Real narrow alleyway, but wide enough that in theory, a car can make it through there.
So we're walking and we see this big black Mercedes or BMW come flying down.
Doesn't appear to be an official vehicle.
It certainly has no flashing lights or whatever.
And it comes, and I'm at the head of the line of students by chance, and it comes within six inches, a foot at most of hitting my leg.
And without giving it any thought, I said, F your mother, the full in English.
Like, I like there, there was no thought given.
It was just like a drug, you know, lizard brain reaction.
Like, you almost, you almost hit my leg, a-hole, you know, and I didn't think twice about it.
I kept on walking.
And then like it became apparent that that car had stopped in the alleyway and did a very quick Austin Powers, like rapid K-turn, boop, come around.
And then the driver, little guy in a black leather jacket, sort of a ratty face, blonde buzz cut, says, Who said F you?
Who said F you?
And he said that in English.
And I, you know, knowing that I was the offender, I wasn't going to like pass it off.
I said, Nikto, my Russian was and still is terrible, but I said, Nikto Skazal Nichivo.
Nobody said nothing.
Nobody said nothing.
And then, of course, he probably recognized my voice where he was like, it's him.
So he gets out of the car and comes toward me.
And then the other three cars of the sedan open up.
And it is literally massive dudes in black leather jackets, also sort of like with their hands in their pockets.
I'm like, oh my, oh my God.
Oh my God.
I don't know if I thought I was going to get whacked, but I knew I was in trouble.
And this little cagey, cagey rat face, maybe he's the driver.
Who knows who was the boss, who was the muscle?
But he just like approaches me like a spider.
And before I know it, I'm smoking a cigarette at the time.
He like puts his hand up to my neck, puts my head up against the wall of this alley and says something in Russia to the effect of know your place or know when to shut your mouth.
And I didn't freak out.
I didn't pee my pants.
I didn't panic.
I still had the cigarette in my hand.
I was just like, you should have said I just looked at him and I said, harasho or nuladna, something like that.
And he let me go and got back in the car and drove off.
And I looked over at the other kids, students who were with me, and their just eyes were like wide.
They thought they were about to see me get my brain splattered against the wall there.
But yeah, you know, youthful ignorance or just a human mistake in a dangerous situation.
Yeah.
I personally am tickled about the visual of the Russian Russian mafia.
I can't really make out what you're saying.
What was that, Nels?
Your mic is kind of a little janky.
Can you hear me now?
Yeah, a little bit better.
I am forever giggling at not going up against the Russian mafia because the one time I just laughed he mouthed off to the fucking mob.
Yeah.
What are the odds?
Yeah, I was not trying to be a hero or anything.
I had no idea who was in that car.
Could have been an old granny, right?
It was just going too fast down an alley.
But no, they were absolutely gangsters.
And when I saw the little driver like stick his head out, I wasn't too concerned.
And then the other, it was like it was like in the movies, the three doors open simultaneously, and then like up stand, you know, like six foot five foot five, like crawl up, yeah, six foot five with buzz cuts and their hands in their pockets.
Yeah, that's a true 100% true story as I remember it.
Yeah, well, you know, you have to really hand it to you because if that happened to me, I think that like every year it went by, it would become more extravagant, more brave and dangerous.
Yeah, like more guys would be added, the guns would be added.
More guys rang out your fucking rollout of the Mercedes.
You'd pull out your own gun and there'd be like a big firefight.
And yeah, there's another bit.
There's another story where I was out with a bunch of actual Russians, Muscovites, and with fellow American students.
And they were, and like, I don't know if we had school the next day, classes the next day, but they're like, you guys, you guys are pussies.
You can't drink or whatever.
I was like, I'll take that challenge.
So I drank way too much vodka with these Russian guys.
It ended very poorly for me that night, just in terms of going a little bit berserker and like waking up with like blood caked on my arm.
I'll leave it at that.
But yeah, you know, even if you think you can hold your liquor, don't get drinking competition with a native Russian, especially when they're picking the poison.
I'll leave the story at that.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
So did we, I don't know, want to have any like final closing thoughts on the movie then?
Did I guess, I don't know what Allison and Anna are gonna did you guys have any thoughts you wanted to add?
I yeah.
So have you ever seen the movie?
Like me?
No.
I've never really heard of it until two years ago.
Now, did you not watch it because like it didn't have subtitles in the beginning?
Like, is that why you gave up quick?
No.
So I don't really like, I haven't been watching TV or wives or anything.
I've been reading a lot.
And my book was like a little bit dramatic when I was trying to watch the movie.
So I had a bad time.
Your book was what?
My book was being dramatic.
Neurotic?
Dramatic?
Yeah, there was like a there was like a climax and a plot.
And I started the movie and I was like, oh my goodness.
I don't know.
I was weak.
I was weak.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
What about you, Anna?
Do you have any thoughts?
Did you?
I assume you read the Wikipedia.
I did.
You know, this propaganda certainly worked more effectively back then when there was a more coherent, I should say, demographically coherent nation versus now.
I mean, just watching the failure of Top Gun Maverick and just these tryhard kind of neocon ops.
It's like, oh, well, I guess that's one upside to the, sorry, I'm very tired.
Propaganda, yes.
Being as effective anymore.
Exactly.
So, Coach, you had mentioned like you were kind of surprised they used the name Putin in the movie.
And you said he wasn't really on the radar before, but do you think if what's his face, Tom Clancy was actually like a like a federal agent or whatever, and this was sort of state-funded propaganda, do you think they would have known a little more about the rise of Putin or whatever?
God, you know, when the book was written in 84, Putin maybe would have been an undercover KGB officer in Germany.
You know, he was officially a translator or interpreter.
So I think it is pure coincidence.
I don't, he, when, when the book, I don't, who knows if the political officer was Putin in the book?
I can't recall.
He was in the movie in 1990, but even then, he would have been a relative nobody in like Leningrad or St. Petersburg political thing.
So I think it is purely a fascinating coincidence that not just the, you know, the officer who got whacked was named Putin, but that he was KGB.
Just a very strange coincidence.
I think sometimes actual coincidences do occur and it's not predictive programming or a deeper sign from somewhere in the workings of the system.
But yeah, I forgot to mention that.
Thank you for flagging that.
I had to get that.
It's just like, wow, his name's Putin.
And that's not a particularly common name there.
Jenny, do you have any final thoughts on the movie or anything?
I like the submarine noises.
You like that.
I did really good with the sound work in that one scene in particular.
And overall, it was very dramatic.
Well, not a movie for me.
I'm not a boy, but it wasn't bad.
It just wasn't enticing to me at all.
I watched it and I looked up stuff about it a little bit because that's what I always do.
I think I would prefer to watch it again with subtitles.
That would probably help a lot.
Yeah, I think, yeah, you guys should consider trying to watch it with subtitles for those reviews because you just get so much more out of the movie, I feel.
And you can just understand what's happening so much better with subtitles.
Yes.
I would just like had subtitles.
I hate when people talk to me.
I don't know if that's autism or possibility, but it's not being able to read when people talk.
Yeah, it'd be really nice to have subtitles with your speaker right now.
Yeah.
No, it's all good.
The microphone was in the room with the sleeping baby, and I just didn't feel that rest across the park right.
It's all good.
Rebecca, like you haven't talked too much about your thoughts about the movie, but you liked it, Rebecca?
Yeah.
I mean, obviously, I have a husband that really likes military type movies, especially from like, you know, the 90s.
Was he talking?
Was he pausing and like spurting a lot during the movie?
A little bit, a little bit.
But as far as that category or genre of movies go, I think this was one of the more enjoyable ones to have watched with him.
So I did.
And I appreciate also the moments of humor.
Like toward the end, when there was the scene where all the stuff was happening deep underwater with the final scenes, the Russian crew, the crew's reaction up top was hilarious.
Yeah, that was very funny.
The captain drove them out of the water.
They're all getting, they're getting psyopta floating in the North Atlantic.
So, yeah.
So I, I mean, I, uh, it probably wasn't one that I necessarily would have, you know, picked on my own, but I did enjoy the experience.
Yeah.
Uh, James, do you have any final thoughts on the movie then?
No, I mean if, if you're into any kind of military drama or just like action uh, movies or something like that.
It is lower, it is slower action, but it definitely builds suspense I would definitely recommend it.
Uh, probably the dozenth time i've seen it and i'm already looking forward to watching it again.
I'm sure.
Wow, pick up something new the next time as well.
So did you pick up anything new this time this round?
Um, I mean, So I was trying to stop and explain to the kids because again, it's PG.
So we had all the kids like crammed in the room and we're all watching it together.
And so just kind of explaining to them and our eldest really getting into kind of the intrigue, it was a lot of fun to watch it with her.
And I think another thing you mentioned too while we were watching it was interesting with the current political environment, because this is the first time we've watched it since the Russia-Ukraine situation broke out.
And so it's like the last time we watched it, you know, we were, we, you know, U.S. and Russia, we were all cool.
Yep.
Right.
Well, but also it just feels so backwards, you know, now.
Like I said, it feels like it'd be more likely for people to be wanting to defect to Russia these days, you know, so it's kind of like interesting to get that diversity.
I don't think Hollywood is going to tell that story.
Yeah, Hollywood isn't going to tell that story, but that's absolutely correct.
I think you have more people, you know, hiding from the U.S. government if you don't toe the line on Israel, if you don't toe the line, if you're pro-white, if you're any, any of those things.
And so the suppression is definitely on the U.S. side.
And so I think there is something to be gained from watching kind of the old school propaganda and then helping to develop talking points and ways of communicating ideas of freedom, ideas of the struggle that we're in now.
Yeah.
Snowden ended up there sort of by accident, but he was relatively recently granted full permanent legal residency and maybe citizenship, or he's working toward it.
There's a woman who I think accused Biden of sexual assault back in the day, who successfully sought asylum in Russia.
Yeah, the numbers are small, but there are American political dissidents of different stripes who have gone there and been accepted seeking refuge.
What that tells you, I don't know, but it does happen for sure.
So one second, I wanted to say something.
So I got a $50 donation on Cash App from Big Hair Tsunami.
I just want to say a big thank you to Big Hair.
It's a huge help.
I really appreciate any help going towards the next movie I'm making.
So thank you very much.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And if it's okay with you guys, I will put this out on the Full House RSS after the fact, audio only, because it was fun.
And you guys did a great job.
And it was just a blast talking about this, not just the film, but all the rest of it.
Yeah, it was great.
You were really, really fantastic.
You brought a lot of interesting analysis and whatnot to it.
Really appreciate you coming on.
Do you have any final thoughts on the movie there then?
No, I think it stands the test of time.
Wonderful acting, compelling plot.
Newly significant.
Check it out or read the book or just the movie score itself is spectacular.
Oh, the soaring choral performances.
Yeah.
Anna and Allison, you guys really missed out on some awesome Russian singing in it.
The soundtrack is really great.
I'll have to send you the soundtrack from it because, yeah, it's really fancy.
I did catch a little bit of it in the beginning and I was like, whoa, I wasn't blown away.
I gotta say.
Basil Papadorius or something.
Some Greek guy composed it, but it was really good.
I do love me some Russian music.
They got a really cool style.
Like when I'm at some point, I'm going to try to make a movie about Russia.
It's going to be like a grindhouse type film set during the Bolshevik era, kind of.
It's going to be called Bolshevik Vampires of the USSR.
You know, so it's like Rasputin is going to be like this vampire hunt.
It's like it's going to be kind of like kind of over the top and silly.
But yeah, I'm going to, there's some Russian music, some Russian, classic Russian songs I want to try to put in that movie.
I'm still very far away from the point where I could make something like that, but that's the goal.
You know, I'm trying to, my goal in life to try to build up an alternative film studio and make bigger and better movies until one day Coach says he's proud of me.
He likes my movies.
That's my main goal in life.
Keep that a big guy.
I'll go back and revisit that one.
I'm not sure that I saw the baby teeth or the one.
Yeah.
Baby teeth is very good.
I don't think I watched it.
I think it just, you know, it floated down the inbox and I missed it.
For the women who didn't like Hunt for Red October, A Gentleman in Moscow is a wonderful historical fiction by Amur Tolls that I know women love.
It's all about a former Russian sort of aristocrat who gets sentenced by the Bolsheviks to imprisonment for life in the grand hotel in Moscow.
And it's a soaring historical journey throughout Russia.
So A Gentleman in Moscow is a wonderful book.
The visual recreation had like a bunch of like black people working at a hotel.
I just looked it up and I was like, what are you recommending me?
Yeah.
No, no, yeah.
It has, what's his name?
Ewan McGregor is the count.
But it's like they inserted pause.
And I watched the first episode.
It wasn't very good, but the book was spectacular.
If you didn't like Hunt for Red October, try that one to get more Russia under your belt.
Yeah.
So Alison, I mean, you read a lot of books, so you'll probably read that right at some point.
We have that one, Allison.
I can loan it to you.
Yep.
Yeah, thank you.
I'll collect that coming up.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's go around and you guys can kind of sign off and tell us what you're working on, what you got coming up or whatever.
Allison, do you have anything you're working on or what you got going on in life or whatever?
Are you just reading?
Just reading a lot?
Just reading by women.
And my kids require a lot of attention with all their activities right now.
Gotcha.
Anna, you're working a lot with the Justice Report, writing articles for them.
And then you also got some other stuff you've been working on behind the scenes.
I don't know if you want to talk about that.
Yeah, I mean, you basically summarized it.
Just some miscellaneous projects at the moment.
I really encourage people to go check out War Strike 2.
I've been doing a couple behind the scenes stuff with that as well.
And yeah, continue to check out Justice Report.
We're rolling out some really, really shocking news stories.
You're just not going to find anywhere else.
What about you, Jenny?
I embroider thing.
I make thing.
I'm not doing very much.
I'm just, you know, it's a litter box.
It's just shit.
It's not shit.
It's adorable.
It's cute, but like I said, what is it?
Shit posting in a physical medium.
Yeah, I love that.
Your embroideries are you embroidery shit posts, which are so much.
They're so fantastic.
Thank you.
If you haven't seen her embroidered shit post in the description box or the in the yeah, the description.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, it's got the link there.
Definitely check that out.
It's fantastic.
I love her work and what she does.
You like garbage.
You'll love it.
And you're going to, I got a, I asked for a commission for her.
Yes.
Like my list is growing.
It's destroying.
Froggy with a with a fedora and a sword.
It's going to be a shirt.
I'm very, once you get to that, I'm very excited to get that.
It takes potentially hundreds of hours.
So it'll happen eventually.
Jenny, I love your little embroidered shirt I'm looking at right now.
The frog is a little bit.
Yeah, it looks like the cat is crying and saying, why?
And it's just that's one of my favorites.
That's like one of the first few things I embroidered.
That's why it doesn't look as good as the frog.
That's a year of progress right there.
I love that frog.
If you could do a raccoon for me.
I want a raccoon.
I could probably do raccoons.
Probably.
I don't know.
It's subject to whatever I'm capable of drawing wise.
Like I can do a flamingo or a cat really well.
Anything beyond that, we'll see the quality of.
All right.
James and or Rebecca.
So we, well, I guess I run the higher ideals channel on Telegram and I just post about happy stuff going on in my family life.
So I love it.
I just want things to make me happy.
My favorite channel on Telegram.
Oh, thank you.
It's such a high quality channel.
Seriously.
I like your little, like your quotes from books that you read.
And I see you post like the White Monthly art stuff.
It's just these beautiful entries.
And I mean, what is it?
Looks like you got pressed flowers here or yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I've been trying that recently.
It is so beautiful.
I'm starting to scrapbook.
So I really, yep.
Yep.
This is the kind of content I like.
Did we mention on the stream that Coach was actually the first one to share higher ideals?
He was.
He was the first person to share about our channel way back when we first started.
My pleasure.
What about you, James?
I don't know.
Is there anything you want to talk about that you got going on?
I also enjoy the channel.
Rebecca features me in it every once in a while.
But no, we're out here in a pretty white area.
Like Coach was saying earlier, definitely recommend getting out of the cities if you can, having a family and becoming part of a community, whether that's the geographical community that you happen to find yourself in or a pro-white, white positive community of like-minded people.
So, you know, finding your community is where it's at.
And I like, you know, the channel being able to show that you can, you have these views, you have this outlook, and, you know, we really are the good guys.
You know, we are, we're, we're the neighbors you wish you had kind of a deal.
And, and I think that comes through in a lot of the posts and in how we and you guys live up to your, what your social media, what it looks like on your social media, because I've hung out with you guys several times now, and it is just always a joy to, you guys are just such an incredible family, and it's always such a wonderful time to spend with you guys.
Well, we definitely enjoy spending time with you.
I do have to caution everyone, Lord Wolfshield is the kind of person that watches movies with subtitles, even when they're in English.
That's the only way to watch them.
Same with Lord Wolfshield.
I cannot watch any subtitles based.
Oh, no, no, no, and anti-subtitles, even if it's in another language.
Just fight your way through it.
Well, I don't like watching a movie in other languages, though.
Like, I won't watch foreign movies because I don't like the subtitles.
Well, when you're watching an English movie with so much subtitles, your brain does that thing.
You don't read the words.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, you're like absorbing words.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get it.
Yeah, I don't know.
And like, with the subtitles for foreign films always like feel very weird.
Like they don't talk like, like it doesn't sound like normal people talking.
You know, it's like the translation.
There's something long.
Translations are definitely off, including in Red October.
Yeah.
Like, like even with my pidgin understanding of Russian, I was like, that's not how I would translate that.
You know, and you see it with other shows too, the Americans.
There's something weird with how they do those subtitles.
I don't know if they simplify it for like brevity or whatnot, but it's definitely not truly represented.
No, Coach, or Lord Wolfshield, I really appreciate the kind words about the channel.
I mean, a lot of that is, you know, trying to be a window into, you know, just our lives.
But we appreciate all the time we've had an opportunity to spend with you.
Your movies are awesome.
You know, we came across your work with Baby Teeth and it was captivating.
Like I just happened to have it up while Rebecca was walking by in the kitchen and she stopped to kind of see what it was.
And then like 15 minutes later, she's like still there.
So, you know, really good work.
I like your vision of putting together a movie studio that produces good art.
And tells our stories from our perspective.
I'm sick of seeing, you know, bastardized, you know, versions of, you know, our stories.
To tell our stories from our people's perspective is something that we need.
And not just as propaganda, but as truly just good art.
And I think the way you're going about it is awesome.
Yeah, that's my main goal is to just make a good movie.
You know, like, I mean, the racial aspects of it and sort of my white national.
You know, I'm doing this, you know, like I'm trying to do this because I am, you know, a white nationalist and I'm doing this for my people.
But like, I'm not trying to make propaganda either.
And there's very little propaganda, little to none really, in my films, because my main goal is to actually just make something good and entertaining and worth watching.
Yeah, you're not making white nationalist films.
You're a white nationalist who happens to be making really good films.
Yeah, that's the goal, you know?
And hopefully I can, I have so many stories I want to tell, you know, and hopefully I'll get the, get the chance to really bring some fantastic pieces of work to our people.
Well, you sold me on the Russian vampires.
Looking forward to that one.
Yes.
I've had that.
I've been, I've been thinking about that one for a long time.
Bolshevik vampires is kind of redundant, though, buddy.
Well, you know, like that's kind of the idea is that like the like the idea is that there's going to be a conspiracy that the Bolsheviks are actually secretly controlled by like the top elite or like vampires, you know?
Yeah.
You know, and they're like conspiring to try to kill the Romanovs or whatever.
I don't know.
But it's not going to be like in your face type of propaganda.
You know, the story's just going to be like the story, but you know, just a little bit of subtext there, you know, kind of what I'm going for.
it's kind of like a reverse of um what is it werewolf women of the ss what is that yeah oh that was uh did did anybody see those like quentin tarantino's and robert roger regis grindhouse movies uh it was like It was like Planet Terror and Death Proof.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was like a, there was like a number of like fake Grindhouse trailers and Rob Zombie did one that was called Werewolf Women of the SS, I think is what it was called.
You know, I'm like, okay, I kind of want to do something on the flip side of that, so to speak.
But that's many years down the line.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's let Coach have the final word then.
Hey, Wolf Shield and friends, this was a ton of fun.
I'm honored and grateful to be here.
Thank you.
Thank you for everything that you guys all do individually in your own little lines of effort or significant lines of effort.
Definitely donate to the studio and check us out at Full House.
you like what you heard uh tonight out of my mouth uh we do a show roughly once a week and the links that's pretty roughly Sometimes you'll go like months without a show.
We took a winter break this year.
You know, hey, I'll be honest.
Like if I don't feel like I have something important to say or compelling to say, like I would rather not do a show than do a bad show.
And they're not all great shows, of course.
But, you know, that's a little bit of moodiness, but that's also a commitment to quality too.
So yeah, thank you so much sincerely for having me.
It was a blast.
First time reviewing a movie.
And I think this one is worth the audience's time, perhaps if they have an XY chromosome.