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It could be said that to influence national politics requires the ballot box, the megaphone, the money bag, or the ammo crate.
But as we know so well, elections can and will be manipulated, assuming the politician even meant half of what he said in the first place.
Jewish censorship has proven effective at jamming up our most promising voices, Alan's Twitter gambit notwithstanding.
To date, none of our guys has demonstrated both the bank role and the will to advance a candidate better than a JD Vance tier teal prototype.
And for obvious reasons, the last option remains a distant last resort.
Since the charade of national uniparty politics triggers such disgust and sense of futility among our guys, pursuing local politics and influence has thus been promoted for years.
You have to start somewhere.
You can try to defend your turf from the worst top-down policies, and you don't even have to be a millionaire or have loaded friends to win.
And we now have a very useful case study from one of our own winning a local election, then being targeted for destruction, and maddeningly getting recalled from office.
So this week, we are honored to be joined by Judd Levins, the former councilman from Enid, Oklahoma, to dig into lessons from his promising yet frustrating experience.
So, mr producer, hit it full house.
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And with that, let's get on with it.
First up, contrary to popular belief that he was around to witness the Tammany Hall political machine, he is merely old enough to be legitimately considered a contemporary of George Lincoln Rockwell.
Sam, welcome back, big guy.
Thank you, Coach.
Very good to be here, of course.
And boy, last weekend, I spent a great time with some comrades.
Maybe we could go into it into the second hour.
We were in this enormous mansion in the middle of nowhere in far western Wisconsin.
And boy, did we have a time.
You know, if who's ever listening, if you're not hooked up with your local comrades and having a good quality time together, you really need to do it.
Good for you, buddy.
It's been a while for me since I had a big get-together.
I think it was last, maybe last fall, last summer.
So looking forward to possibly seeing you this fall at the latest.
Oh, that's great.
Excuse me.
Next up, the good news is that he does not have strong opinions whatsoever about the anti-Zionist campus protests that have been dominating the news for the past couple of weeks, and which he will definitely not share and rant about in the second half.
Rolo, welcome back.
What protests?
There you go.
Very good.
Anything at the top of your stack before we talk?
Not turkey, but politics.
No no, i'm.
I'm good, i'm feeling good, i'm well rested and i'm i'm in fighting shape, ready to go when you are boss, all right well, let's do it.
Then finally, our friend and very special guest.
He's an Oklahoma native veteran of both the United States Marines Corps as well as the 2016 Great Meme War.
Last year, he won a close election to the city council of Enid Oklahoma, served honorably but was then yanked from office prematurely by a witch's brew of hostile national media attention, disgusting local communists, and cowardly skullduggery from the local political establishment, including the mayor.
And we are damn grateful that he's willing to speak out about his experience here on Full House this week.
Judd Blevins, welcome, big guy.
Hey, Matt, thank you for having me on the show.
I had been told by a friend that your Telegram channel had made a lot of supporting posts about me.
So I appreciate you reaching out to me and inviting me to come on your show.
You bet.
It's our pleasure.
It's our honor.
When I saw the story that you had won the election, I was elated.
When I saw the negative media attention that you were getting, I said, oh, they finally caught up to you.
And of course, I was a little bit heartbroken, not terribly surprised to see how things went.
And you've been on the circuit.
You've made a couple interviews.
So we discuss maybe talking a little bit more thematically instead of the nuts and bolts of what happened ABCD EFG, but we'll cover as much as we can.
And we're grateful for your time.
Now, we do not have special treatment for politicians here, Mr. Blevins, I must tell you.
So our standard opening question is your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status.
Ooh, okay.
Well, I appreciate that.
My ethnicity, my heritage is mostly from the British Isles, a mixture of English, Welsh, and Scottish.
I do have some German and Scandinavian.
Religion, I'm Christian Protestant, raised Baptist, but kind of just attend non-denominational churches for the last 10 years or so.
Fatherhood status, unfortunately, I don't have any kids.
All right.
Good luck on that front.
That's one of the things we talk about here a lot.
I assume that you're still in the game, in the market.
So good luck with that.
And before we get to politics, first question, how the heck are you holding up?
After the treatment that you got, I would not blame you if you just said, screw this pig system and, you know, went about life as a private citizen.
But it seems like you still got some fighting spirit in you and you want to get out and tell your story.
Oh, sure, sure.
Yeah.
You know, I, it's never good to lose an election.
I mean, I'm currently one and one.
But I mean, look, I was frankly up against the Leviathan itself.
I mean, I had to fight five different campaigns.
I was outraised by my opponent by about $3,000.
But I mean, the amount of money that went into getting me out of office from the Chamber of Commerce types, especially from the media, I mean, it's truly an untold amount of money that had to go in to getting me out.
And, you know, it's not, I don't like that I lost by 260-some votes, but I could live with that because that does tell me that I gave it my all.
I poured everything out.
You know, had I the first time around, I won by 36 votes.
I lost by, you know, that many?
Had I lost by 26, 36 this time, I'd be, I probably would be, you know, living in a cave from now on because that would have told me I didn't do everything I possibly could.
Sure.
Yeah, I'm holding in there.
And frankly, I mean, look, it's, I have a duty as a, as a white man, as a Christian, uh, to do what I can in the time I'm allotted.
So that's my attitude.
Bless you for that.
Uh, took some serious bravery, courage, and uh, the easier path would have been to just decline.
You know, it was interesting to me.
Uh, you mentioned separately that you were, in effect, recruited to run by a local civic group that was opposed to COVID mask mandates and things like that.
So, for I think one of my priorities for this show is to give this excellent case example for our audience of thousands, some of whom are either seriously or at least fantasizing about running for office one day.
But why, Mr. Blevins, did that group reach out to you?
You're a small business owner.
You got the Marine Corps veteran status, but they chose you to run for city council.
Why do you think that was?
Well, frankly, I mean, you know, I'm kind of the oldest millennial in my 40s now.
I mean, frankly, it is true.
I mean, we do need younger people serving in elected offices, and that's not very common.
So, they like that.
They obviously liked it.
I was a had proven myself to be, you know, a conservative, a Christian, a business owner, a veteran.
I mean, it was kind of a good resume, so to speak.
You know, and they initially asked me about two years ago in the spring of 2022.
And I kind of immediately knew like I wanted to do this, but having been doxxed in the past, I'm like, you know, let me take my time.
Let me get back to y'all.
And so I took my time on it over the summer, prayed over it, thought about how it would go.
And I felt I was being called to do this.
So I got back with the two people and I told them, okay, I'll do it, but you need to know this about it.
So I told them, you know, hey, I was in this organization called Identity Europa.
It was called a hate group, which I, you know, completely disagree with.
You know, you can just spin the wheel of slurs, you know, white supremacists, white nationalists, blah, blah, blah.
That's what it gets called.
I went to Charlottesville.
You need to know this stuff because there's, I was explaining to them, there's this entire ecosystem of journalists that like cover this stuff.
So probably will get some attention.
But they didn't blink and they said, you know, it just sounds like you've been paying attention to everything that's been happening for a lot longer than we have.
Yeah.
One of the best adages or pieces of wisdom that I ever received was that bad news does not get better with age.
So stand up on your part to give them the heads up of what was coming.
And do you think that they were naive that they didn't, even though you told them they didn't understand?
You know, you won the election and it seems like perhaps the Eye of Sauron didn't have enough time to really do the Alinskyite thing where it, you know, pick a target, isolate it and attack it.
They didn't get that chance the first election.
But did they, did they understand or not really until NBC News started showing up and the local leftists got agitated?
No, no, I don't think they were naive because, I mean, we're just over a year removed from January 6th.
And, you know, I believe there was a person arrested from, not from Enid, but from very close to Enid that got arrested like nine months after January 6th.
So they were certainly aware of kind of the eye of Sauron being on anyone who spoke out.
I don't think they possibly over the recall system.
process, they were a little bit naive.
But overall, I think they were fully aware of what could happen.
Sure.
And were you politically active in town prior to them reaching out to you, or did they simply see a well-spoken, you know, local businessman leader of sorts to recruit you?
Well, I certainly had never been an elected official before.
Political activism locally, it was kind of limited to the kind of, and I was kind of on the periphery of the anti-COVID lockdowns, mass mandates, stuff like that.
But I was kind of on the periphery and I had spoken out, had never spoken at a city council meeting or anything like that, but they kind of knew like I'm an outspoken person.
So I think that certainly influenced their decision to approach me.
Sure.
Yeah, just something for guys to think about that you don't necessarily have to be on a committee or the school board or whatever to get your start.
You jumped in and it worked the first time around.
Could you tell us just a little bit about Enid itself for guys thinking about doing this?
Because one of the, to me, at least, one of the depressing aspects of this outcome was that it certainly looks like you are in deep red white rural America, basically classic, you know, Trump country, more or less.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it's, it's, it, Enid is, it's kind of an odd town.
It's, it's not really urban, but it's certainly not rural.
Population is about 50, 51,000.
But you're right.
I mean, Republicans, as far as voter rolls go, Republicans outnumber Democrats like three to one or four to one or something like that.
But as far as the town itself goes, I mean, it's kind of been stagnant in population.
It hasn't really seen a whole lot of growth.
But it certainly is very conservative city.
In fact, I had mentioned this on another show that in 2016, the local paper actually endorsed Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, and they lost a lot of subscriptions.
A lot of people canceled the paper.
They lost a lot of advertisers.
It got such a big deal that actually the New York Times took notice of it.
So if you go to the New York Times and you search their archives for Enid, that story from 2016 will show up.
Sure.
Yeah, 50,000, that's a decent sized town.
You're not in the middle.
That's not podunk, not meant disrespectfully.
It's not a big mess.
Yeah, and we're definitely not a suburb.
I mean, the closest major city is Oklahoma City, which is about an hour and 20 minutes away.
Tulsa is about an hour and 45 minutes away.
So, I mean, it is kind of on an island for sure.
Yeah.
And the turnout, I mean, when you look at the vote totals, they're nowhere near 50,000.
What was turnout like in your first election versus the recall?
And the reason that's interesting is because the numbers were so shockingly small that it really does reflect that, man, the local elections is it almost seems like it's just a matter of hustling and knocking on doors and shaking hands.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're correct about that.
I mean, the turnout the first time around was about 15%, which resulted in about eight, just over 800 votes.
But I do have to say that it was the first time in my ward that at least in like 12 years that the voters had actually gotten the opportunity to go to the polls and cast a ballot and make a decision.
Because 12 years ago, there was an election.
That guy, when that four-year term was up, he ran again.
He drew no challenger.
Four years later, he was term limited.
So another guy files the paperwork.
Well, he doesn't even draw a challenger.
So 12 years had gone by before the voters of Ward 1 actually had a choice.
But it was the highest turnout in a commission race across the city in 10 years.
So that was really good.
The second time around, which was in an odd month, it was in April.
The municipal elections are generally typically always in February of an odd number year.
But the turnout the second time around was, I think, probably about 30%, which was about close to 1,400 people.
And, you know, I mean, you presidential elections don't even get 50% turnout.
I mean, there are a number of people who they register to vote and then they actually never go vote.
So a lot of people are still registered to vote at their parents' house and they're now 37 or something like that.
So it, but it was a high turnout both times.
Frankly, the reason I lost the second election was because of the non Republican turnout.
It was, I estimate there was about 40% Democrat turnout and about 12% independent turnout.
And I didn't even like campaign to Democrats and independents.
I mean, you know, I had to win the Republican vote each time.
And I did that the second time.
I won about 57% of the Republican vote, but only a third of Republicans showed up to vote.
So when 40% of Democrats show up to vote, I mean, that really is a killer because I probably won, you know, probably two or three percent of the non-Republican vote.
And did you run as a Republican non-Republican?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, pretty much.
I mean, it's technically a nonpartisan office.
A lot of your municipal and county seats are technically nonpartisan.
You know, I think county commissioners, sheriffs, city councilors, mayor, typically those are nonpartisan seats.
But I just went ahead and put like Republican on my campaign signs just so that there wasn't any confusion.
I mean, my logo was in red and white, which I think is a very smart thing to do.
I mean, you don't use blue.
A lot of people just are going to associate that with Democrats.
But, you know, hey, if you're in a Democrat area and you want to run, I mean, maybe just go for, you know, I mean, if you live in Massachusetts, it's probably safe just to put Democrat on your side.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you're, if you need that Republican base, might as well let them know right off the bat the friend enemy distinction as to where you stand, even if I presume that you are not entirely enthusiastic about the national GOP and some of their positions.
Nobody's perfect, but we'll talk about that a little bit later.
And it also occurred to me that, you know, the fact that at first I thought, well, if there were, you know, dozens or even a handful of other guys who either they went to Charlottesville or whether they just had opinions that the mainstream media considers out of bounds, then they wouldn't have been able to, like I said, isolate you and then attack you because you really were under the gun there.
But the fact that the election was in April, you know, our primaries here in West Virginia are next week.
So you got primaries all over the place, not necessarily, wouldn't have necessarily helped you.
But, you know, water under the bridge now.
We'll talk about your plans going forward and whether you're still eager to get back in the game or whether that was a one shot at office for you.
Before we go further, though, why did you join Identity Europa and why did you go to Charlottesville?
Well, I joined IE because, you know, it was 2017.
We were kind of riding high off of Trump's victory.
And frankly, I saw kind of what was happening to the country, to white Americans, to, you know, frankly, Europeans around the globe from Australia to Canada.
And I just decided, you know, hey, I'm not really doing anything about this.
Like, I need to do something about this.
Like, I just felt like duty to do something.
So I kind of like looked around and saw what was, you know, what was out there.
And it was either like Proud Boys, which was they, you know, back in 2017, they were more of a just kind of beer drinking club.
And that didn't really like appeal to me.
They were getting in rumbles in the streets too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not that there was.
There was that.
There was, I can't even remember what, what, what all there was, but I saw Identity Europa.
And I think what caught my attention, I had heard of them like late in 2016 because they did a protest in San Francisco for what was Kate Steinley.
Yeah.
Which I thought was really cool.
But then they showed up again for the, talk about a blast from the past.
Battle of Berkeley.
No, no, he will not divide us.
These guys are all over the place.
I wonder if there's anybody, you know, in my area.
So like I applied and joined.
And, you know, I had fun in IE.
I mean, we did a lot of like good activism against, you know, illegal immigration, against legal immigration, against anti-white hatred.
I went to Charlottesville, frankly, because, you know, I wanted to, I felt it was important to protest the removal of these statues, which were primarily at the time, these were statues of Confederates, like Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson.
But I just instinctively knew like it's, you know, it's not going to end once they remove every single, you know, Stonewall Jackson statue.
They'll move on to Andrew Jackson.
They'll move on to anyone else, Christopher Columbus.
And, you know, we, yeah, we have been, you know, anyone who protested against the removal of Confederate statues has been fully vindicated.
I mean, you know, they removed all that they could after Charlottesville, especially in 2020.
And then, you know, I mean, it was, I was in office at the same time when that statue of Robert E. Lee in Charlottesville was very, you know, criminally, in my opinion, like smelted.
Sure.
Oh, yeah.
It was, it was defaced, then it was covered with a tarp.
And then they said, you can't do that.
And then eventually, you know, the dam finally broke.
It stood there proudly for several years after Charlottesville, to our pride, until they finally had to really drive the shiv in and melt it down.
Total humiliation ritual for southerners and anybody.
You know, myself, I'm not from the South.
Yeah, I'm dreading to see what they create out of that raw material.
I'm sure it'll be just completely insufferable.
I vaguely remember hearing about some nefarious plans to create some monstrosity, but I can't recall it off the top of my head.
Also, you mentioned Kate Stein Steinley there.
They're making a statue of Latoya Jackson.
Sure, it's like Michael Jackson's history statue.
You mentioned Kate Steinley there, and I hadn't heard that name in quite a while.
She, of course, was a beautiful young white woman who was shot to death on a pier in San Francisco by an illegal alien who had been deported multiple times before, who happened to pick up a handgun that he supposedly found under a bench and then accidentally discharged it right into her chest for her to die in her father's arms.
Good to remember our martyrs.
There's so many of them that the names often escape us.
Back to the politics, unfortunately, the first election you won.
It was a squeaker.
You said, yeah, it was 30-some, 40-some votes.
Despite the fact that it was known or mildly publicized that you had been to Charlottesville, that they alleged that you were an IE at the time.
Let's be honest here.
Do you think if they had more time to stigmatize you, that you would have gone down in that one?
Did you squeak by in that first election?
Is that your honest assessment?
It's possible, but I really do believe that the man that led the effort to recall me, he deliberately set that one out and didn't say a word about me.
I believe he wanted me to win so that he could get up on a soapbox and make a name for himself.
I mean, there's certainly, you know, a lot of the, you know, I realize in the right, we talk about grifters, but that's certainly a phenomenon on the left, too.
I felt like he, I mean, he didn't say a word about me.
He didn't help my campaign, didn't say anything.
But the night I won, man, he just started like screaming about this is the most terrible thing that's ever happened to Enid and to Oklahoma, and we have to do something about this.
So I kind of feel like he deliberately set that one out.
But if they did, I don't know.
I mean, it could have.
Maybe not.
I don't think they certainly would have, you know, basically, I mean, they waited a minimum amount of time, six months, and they basically just created all these different lies that he's going to cost us our military base and he's bad for business and he's bringing in bad publicity.
But I mean, this is none of that is true.
It's all lies that they cooked up.
I mean, I, as I said on another show, you know, I sent Google alerts for my name.
And from May when I got sworn in, you know, they had a protest that made some news.
So I got a couple alerts for like two days after I got sworn in.
But I mean, literally like three or four.
I didn't get a single alert until late October when they started stirring a pot.
So, me being an elected official sitting on that, that in and of itself did not bring bad press to the city.
And your campaign style was interesting.
What I could observe at least, you certainly did not go, you know, full ranting and raving about white genocide, which of course is an actual, it's not a conspiracy theory.
It's basically a national policy.
You didn't go over the top firebrand style, but you certainly didn't, you know, cuck either or apologize unnecessarily for things.
Was that a deliberate policy, a deliberate thought of yours to go middle of the road, you know, not bend to your detractors, people you would never win over, but not offend the normal middle class, maybe senior citizen-leaning Republican voters in your district.
Yeah, I mean, I basically just wanted to stick to the issues that are important at the municipal level here.
I mean, you know, there's, I hate to sound like, you know, a normal like Republican, but quite frankly, yeah, there's been a lot of like really stupid and wasteful spending that takes money away from actually like fixing the streets and fixing the water issues around here.
Another big issue, which I campaigned on, was, you know, I said that our population's been stagnant for a long time.
A big reason for that is frankly because we lose a lot of young people.
Young people have been moving away to Oklahoma City and to Tulsa and then on to Dallas and Denver and Chicago and everywhere else.
I mean, you know, we lose so many young people here because they don't think that there's good career opportunities for them here.
They don't really realize, you know, hey, actually, you do want to live in a smaller city of about 50,000 that's not part of a suburb of a larger metro area because you're not going to spend most of your professional life in your car commuting.
You're actually going to know your neighbors.
And for the most part, you're going to live in a very safe community.
Sure.
Well, you know, perhaps Mr. Blevins, you should have considered a welcoming of migrants policy for Enid and developing more high-density, low-cost public housing.
That would boost your population.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's another conversation I had with the mayor.
He, yeah, he was, he basically just said to me, well, if we got all these people coming across the border, I don't understand why we can't just like, like, why, why the state, why the state just can't like repeal laws that say you have to be an American citizen to have like a plumbing license.
And I'm just like, well, I kind of went for like a safe like numbers USA rebuttal on that.
I'm like, you know, data shows that even like these immigrants that come here, like even they are having fewer and fewer kids, like the second and the third generation, like they're being affected by this economic system too.
So, you know, you can't just continue to supplement, you know, pop births with immigration.
There's only so many resources here.
At some point, you have to address the issues why people are not having kids.
And it was just like he just looked at me like, like he had no idea that speaking in tongues.
Yeah, like that, like that wasn't even like that wasn't even a possibility to do.
Yeah.
Always reach for the easiest possible solution as opposed to some structural sensitive issues that might be worth pursuing.
You took on a lot of risk.
You had a lot of headaches.
I can't imagine the stress that you were going through in particular during the recall election.
And you did a lot of hard work to serve your community only essentially to get yanked out.
But serious question that our prospective politicians out there will probably want to know the answer to.
Were you able to achieve anything substantive while you were in office?
Say you won the recall.
What are some of the things that you either did or looked forward to doing for Enid that would make life better?
And this will sound cheesy for everybody, but a hard right wing with a heart politics is not necessarily going to lead to concentration camps, like death squads, like the left fears.
They'd be surprised at how nice it can be when you have some common sense stand-up white men in power.
But serious question.
What did you get done in office and what did you hope to achieve?
Well, frankly, pretty much everybody told me it's going to take you about six months to a year to like fully understand the job.
And I felt that was true.
Like I felt like, man, like here it is.
Like I'm on my, I'm coming down the wire towards getting re-elected towards defeating this.
And I finally feel like I understand like the flow of government of what we're actually doing.
So it's kind of just like, you know, I get yanked out right as I start to get, you know, my legs underneath me or my feet underneath me.
The thing I regret not being able to do was actually what I was planning on doing was going out and talking to high school kids and just talking to, you know, when I'm talking about keeping the young people here, well,
how are you going to do that if you don't go out and talk to young people here that are thinking about, because I mean, there's just been this kind of culture that people, and it's not exclusive to Enid, but it's exclusive to these smaller communities, mid-sized communities that, oh, this town sucks.
There's nothing for you here.
You got to move.
You got to be in the big city, kid, to make it.
And I just wanted to tell them, look, that's not always the case.
And I wish somebody from the city had came and talked to me about when I was your age about job opportunities, about career opportunities.
Like, you know, we have a military base here that requires a lot of a very large civilian workforce.
Now, there's careers where you can make six figures and you don't have to have a six-figure, you know, quote-unquote education to make that.
I also wanted to talk to them about, you know, hey, you moved to a big city.
You're probably not going to know your neighbors.
Like I said, I mean, you're, I'm kind of repeating myself, but you're going to be community most of the time.
You're going to live in a dangerous neighborhood if you want to be close to your job, stuff like that.
That's kind of what I regret that I wasn't able to accomplish.
Fair enough.
Yeah, a shame for you and for Enid and for those kids that they didn't have somebody who actually cared and would listen to them serving in office and representing them.
Politics is dirty business.
When you're winning and when you're powerful, friends are a dime a dozen.
And then when the going gets tough or when you're under attack, people will suddenly flee, fair weather friends and the rest.
You really know who your friends are and who your enemies are and who the cowards are when you're under attack.
You don't have to name names per se, but lessons from political conflict, essentially.
Who stood by you?
Who betrayed you?
Who sort of just receded into the background when you started getting on?
I mean, you were on NBC Nightly News as a featured story.
High pressure, high attention.
A little bit about the grim realities of political friendship and allies and enemies.
Yeah, so I had two other commissioners that really spoke out and defended me.
One so in a very public role that was ironically the only black commissioner.
I think a lot of that is simply because of where we were seated in the city council itself.
You know, I was ward one.
He was ward two.
So they seat you numerically.
So during the meetings, I mean, we're, you know, kind of talking to each other.
So you, you kind of get to know him, the person to your left or right, a little bit better than the person who's on the opposite side.
The other commissioner, I mean, he really stuck up for me more so privately, but he also made some public comments in meetings in my defense.
I mean, the real betrayal, frankly, was from the mayor.
And I have no problem saying that.
I mean, you know, he's the one who wanted me to apologize to these liberals, these anti-white communists is what they are.
I mean, he wanted me to make concessions to them and just do what they wanted.
I told him, I'm not doing that.
These people are insane.
And short of me telling them I quit, you know, they're not going to back down.
But he didn't care about that.
He basically decided, well, he's not going to make this headache go away.
So I'll deliberately, you know, screw him over.
So frankly, you know, I mean, and I explained this in depth on another show, but, you know, frankly, I mean, the recall being in April was a deliberate violation of the city charter.
It should have been held, frankly, in February.
We could have set a filing period, an election that would have had a much earlier filing period.
And frankly, you know, I've said this before, the people who recalled me, they have no candidates.
So we could have set a much earlier election.
The filing period would have come and gone.
Nobody would have filed.
If nobody would have filed, there's no recall election.
There's no NBC, you know, article.
I mean, there's no media feeding frenzy.
It was, they deliberately stalled, arguably against the letter of the law to enable both the recruitment as well as for the heat to be brought on you.
Yes.
Any, do you think you're going to sue over that or dispute that?
We'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, I'm talking to an attorney.
He's looking in to see if I actually have a case or not.
Right.
The impression I get is that, you know, this is something that we're going to have to perhaps create precedent for, which attorneys like hate doing that.
It's always easy if there's a previous case that a court somewhere has ruled on, but we'll see.
Fair enough.
You mentioned your fellow councilman, the black gentleman who sat to your left or your right on the dais there.
And I happened to catch one of the city council meetings where perhaps one of the ones where most of the cat ladies and the mohawked pink-haired freaks showed up.
And I saw him speak and he went on for, he was rambling for about 10 minutes.
And I had no idea if he was going to like invoke Jesus Christ to cast you down into hell or do what he eventually ended up doing, which was like get up and give you a bro hug.
What happened there?
Was that choreographed?
Were you on pins and needles like waiting to see what happened?
You know, I got to admit, Mike Man, you know, when he starts ranting, you don't know where he's going to go.
So I was kind of on the edge of my seat for a little bit, but I frankly, I mean, he was just, he was just tired of the nonsense of the name calling.
He felt it was stupid.
He felt, look, if this guy was what you guys make him out to be, you know, he would have shown himself to be that.
He would have shown himself to be this, you know, monster, like right off the bat, but he hasn't done that.
And he's actually doing a good job as a commissioner in just six months.
You know, like things don't have to pass seven or nothing.
You know, you actually do need to vote against a few things every now and then.
Yeah.
So no, it was, you know, it was uncomfortable just because of the public moment.
But, you know, I mean, hey, I don't have any regrets and he doesn't either.
So.
Yeah, I was simultaneously surprised and a little bit cringing, but I was like, okay, well, that could have gone worse.
And it was funny, too, because, you know, we're unapologetically pro-white on this show.
We're not particularly enthusiastic about black crime and the rest of it.
But leftists have this concept that, oh, you know, if you're pro-white or if you went to Charlottesville, that you are, you know, a budding executioner or a vigilante or that you go around ranting and raving about Jews and minorities and women and all the rest of it.
When in reality, it's like, no, we actually have the ability to treat individuals as individuals while still recognizing that there are group characteristics that matter quite greatly to outcomes, both local and national.
And of course, we're seeing the effects of that, but it was just a fascinating little vignette from your experience.
Hard lessons from your recall election.
As I understand, the group that recruited you did not exactly go to bat for you when you were under fire.
We'll start with that.
And then I wanted to ask about what, you know, did money make a difference?
Of course, Monday morning quarterbacking, everybody's got it after election.
Did you need more boots on the ground?
Could voter outreach have been targeted better?
Could you have won if you did things differently?
Sure.
Well, I mean, Matt, when you say group, I mean, really, it was just a handful of people at the time.
I mean, you know, a lot of these well-meaning citizens.
Yeah, a lot of the people that organize themselves to oppose COVID.
I mean, when that kind of died as an issue at the local level, you know, people just kind of went on with their lives.
I mean, it really is true.
I mean, I just want a grill meme.
I mean, a lot of people, you know, unless it's personally affecting them, you know, as well.
Declare victory and go home.
Yeah, when it's personally affecting them, they'll speak up.
But, you know, I mean, life happens.
Family members get sick.
You have other issues that pop up and you can't dedicate as much time the second time around.
But, you know, hey, by that point, you know, I made a lot of friends and allies in the community.
And I certainly had a good number of volunteers.
Not enough to get the job done.
But I wouldn't say that those two people kind of abandoned me.
But, you know, yeah, I could have won had a lot more ground support for sure.
Of course, that does require money.
Yeah, I probably could have won had I maybe had double the money and double the volunteers.
But, you know, at the end of the day, it's, it's, you know, it, it, it is what it is.
I mean, you, you do the best you can with what you have while you can.
So let's say a city of 50,000.
This is where I want to drill in a little bit, if you don't mind for prospective future politicians.
Roughly, roughly, roughly how much did you raise?
Did you spend all of it?
What was the best expenditure of money?
And did you think that some of that money could have been spent better elsewhere?
Well, I raised about $7,000.
Now, the first time I only raised about $2,500.
No, no, about $3,000.
But the second time around, like I knew, I'm going to have all this attention.
I'm going to have a much more formidable opponent.
So obviously I need to raise more.
And so, I mean, I think that your best use of money is with mailers, with yard signs, stuff like that.
But at the local level, I mean, you are correct.
It is frankly just getting out and knocking on doors and getting to know people and spending time with them.
You need to have volunteers do that because you'll find, you know, not, well, I mean, you need to do it yourself, but it helps when you have volunteers to do that because they can usually, you know, door knock on about double the amount of people that you can in a single day.
And that's because, you know, everybody wants to talk to the candidate.
So whereas a volunteer will generally spend, you know, if they have a decent conversation, it's usually about four minutes or so.
Whereas a candidate themselves, it's usually double that.
It's usually eight minutes.
And that adds up over time.
I mean, some, there's, you know, you'll spend 20 minutes talking to them.
Yeah.
I think we boosted your fundraiser.
Sorry to cut you off.
I'm just thinking, I mean, that's such a small amount of money and you still did pretty damn well.
I think we boosted it once or twice on our Telegram channel.
I mean, just it was our pleasure, our honor felt that it was the least we could do.
But the thought occurs that just, you know, I mentioned it at the very top about the money bags, you know, just one and not even like a teal type, but just somebody with slightly deeper pockets.
Because this, it's, you know, on one hand, I was like, let's not get worked up about it.
Like, I'm not going to like fork over the savings to help a guy in a city in Oklahoma win an election.
What does it really matter?
Sort of the black pill there.
But at the same time, it was symbolic and nationally significant, surely, for the enemy.
And it should have been for us too.
You know, the idea, maybe you could have done some radio ads or, you know, more print ads, stuff like that.
Yeah.
Well, I did do that.
I did radio, some digital billboards.
You know, I would say to the audience out there, you know, in the future, I mean, you really do need to donate to good candidates, not, you know, I mean, I mean, you choose good, good judgment and decide for yourself.
But they're called campaigns for a reason.
Political campaigns are just like military campaigns.
They drain money.
They really do.
You know, one purchase will be $500 here, $1,000 here, $200 here, $75 here.
I mean, it quickly adds up.
I would say also, you know, a lot of guys have this fear of, well, if I dox this guy, am I going to, well, if I donate to this guy, am I going to get doxxed?
And Matt, I do have to say, I read your information about you.
It sounds like you did get doxed because you donated.
But I mean, there's also a minimum amount that you can give.
But, you know, it's certainly a different world than what it was when you and I got doxxed in 2019.
But guys do need to, you know, if they believe what they say, then frankly, they do need to put their money where their mouth is sometimes.
Yeah.
And that's how I felt too, real quick.
It's not about me, but it was like when at the time before Paul Nealon went completely off the rails, I was like, here is an upstanding white man speaking the hard truths, running to defeat Paul Ryan, which was damn significant.
So regardless of where I worked or, you know, what I donated, I thought I'm an American citizen.
I like this guy.
I'm freaking donating to him.
I deliberately went, I could have, you know, done like a dollar less than the minimum recording requirement, but I was like, screw that.
I'm not a coward.
Like, what country is this?
I'm donating to the candidate that I want to.
And you're right.
That was what first put me on the radar.
Yeah.
And I had a response ready just in case I got a donation from that I had to report from.
I don't know.
So I can't think of anybody, but like a serial killer.
Yeah, well, yeah.
Or like, I don't know.
Somebody probably like Peter Brimelow had like donated.
There's a story about Ron Paul.
I think it was either 2008 or 2012.
Don Black.
Yes.
Yeah.
He got a maximum donation from Don Black.
And he was the Stormfront founder for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was asked about it by the media.
Sam's old friend.
And the first answer he gave to the media was just this kind of generic, well, my campaign's, you know, hidden on a lot of important issues.
And it's a fact, it speaks to people all across America from all political persuasions.
And they kept pressing him on this issue.
And Ron Paul just goes, Well, if he's such a bad guy, don't you think the money's better off with me?
Sure.
So I had something like that ready to go.
But I mean, look, I mean, you're a lot of times, you know, with your employer, I mean, you shouldn't be worried about that stuff because donating to a political candidate, I mean, you do have rights that protect you from being fired from your job for that stuff.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
And hey, when I remember when Trump got support from David Duke in 2016, you know, they were like, do you disavow?
And he like stubbornly refused to say disavow.
Like, I can't tell you if it's like good politics or not, because you see cowards and frauds and liars win all the time.
But when he like refused to disavow just because some left-wing journalist, you know, demanded that he do so and put him on the spot, that buffed him up in my estimation a lot.
Wanted to ask real quick about the data that you had access to.
This is one more thing for potential future candidates.
I guess you can see the voter rolls and you can see party identification in these Dems Republicans.
Is that sort of central and vital to a local campaign identifying?
Yeah, absolutely.
You know, in Oklahoma, I mean, each county has a county election board and you can request through your county election board.
You can also do it online.
You can request voter rolls for party or just all registered voters.
You can request the voter rolls of who shows up to vote, like who showed up in a countywide election, statewide election, a federal election, whatever it may be.
What you want to do is get voter rolls for multiple elections.
And if you're going after Republicans, just request Republicans.
But you want to get voter rolls for multiple elections that aren't just, you know, every second and fourth November.
You want to get because I mean, there's a lot of elections that are, you know, in June.
Yeah.
Or they're in April and they're often for county tax bond issues, school board elections, municipalities.
Hardcore voters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What you want to do is you want to find the people who consistently show up to vote, even when it's not November.
Because they prove that they care and they take the time to vote.
So that is your core that you personally need to get in front of.
What your volunteers need to do is expand that net.
Your volunteers get out and get in front of the people who show up every second or fourth November.
Because you'll find, I mean, door knocking, you don't just knock on every single door.
The majority of people aren't even registered to vote.
So there's no point in talking to them.
Some people are registered to vote, but they only vote every second or fourth November.
I mean, they're probably not going to show up in an odd month to vote.
But getting that data from your local election board, that is vital to winning.
And of course, I mean, there is like, you'll see this in big, in like races that, you know, the candidate raises probably over 25,000 just to start.
Like there is software that, you know, you can download on a tablet or a phone.
Sorry, my voice is kind of going out, but that will like identify like likely voters.
It'll put them in walking routes, stuff like that.
Yep.
Yeah, I knocked on doors for Ken Cuccinelli for governor in Virginia and then later for Trump in Virginia.
And even with the targeted voting approach, it was amazing.
You still got some hostels and some super grateful people.
It wasn't easy, honestly, but it was damn rewarding, even when you came across the occasional hostel.
It was kind of eye-opening, real on-the-ground political stuff for audience listening.
If you got a candidate that you really like and respect, especially as we go into November, consider giving it a shot.
Judd, we're in a weird political environment right now.
The left is eating itself over the campus protests, yet the GOP is overwhelmingly seems to be attacking the protesters, bending over backward for Israel.
I won't ask you about that, but you're almost a semi-betrayed former Republican office holder.
And you know all the nonsense at Washington with Mike Johnson and Trump supposedly told him to go and push the arms and weapons and aid overseas.
Are you still a proud Republican?
Are you going to vote for Trump in November?
If the Democrats are the evil party, a lot of people think the GOP is the stupid party or the cowardly party, I would say.
It's tough.
It's tough.
I mean, this is not new to you.
GOP voters have been disappointed and betrayed for decades now.
Where are you mentally on party politics, national politics, et cetera?
Well, yeah, I mean, the Republican Party apparatus itself is not good.
I'll just leave it at that.
But as far as the presidential election, I mean, I'm solidly voting for Trump.
I mean, there's no question about that.
I mean, you know, we had such a weird like primary because like Trump basically sat it out, which I mean, I think that was the politically smart thing to do instead of just, you know, going through.
Yeah.
I mean, but like all these other candidates, I mean, it's just like, it was just like it was 2012 again.
Like it is kind of interesting.
I do really wonder and worried, like, what is a post-Trump GOP going to be like?
Is it just, is there going to be anybody that emerges to kind of carry that mantle?
Or is it just going to be, or are we going to look back and say that, yeah, that truly was an anomaly?
And it's just right back to, I mean, Nikki Haley was just, I mean, she sounded like it was 2004 all over.
Yeah, Dick Cheney in a pantsuit, I think maybe Trump or somebody said, you know, Mike Pence got nowhere.
I think that that brand of particularly noxious neoconservative GOP shilling is dead, but you're absolutely right.
Like Trump also tends to attract some like seemingly shady or unprincipled, you know, writers on.
So it's like, even if it continues with Trumpism and populism, I remain leery of the kind of characters that he's attracted to date so far.
Sam, please fire away a question for Mr. Warren.
Judd, so you know, these things that happen were not unexpected for you going into this.
You knew that you'd be possibly, you know, facing that type of opposition of the shrill left.
But, you know, it can have a lot of positive fallout, anyways.
So, like, these your colleagues that were commissioners or the people that you worked with to be able to run in the first place, what was their reaction to the rabid left getting involved to get you recalled?
Did they do they see the writing on the wall?
Was this a was you aware of anyone that that learned something from this that might have brought them brought them more on our side?
Well, politically speaking, I think they they learned not to trust the mayor.
Um, I think it kind of was eye-opening that um to to to some that um you know, I won this election fair and square, and yet uh, because of things that happened seven years ago, you know, you get you get the IFSR on uh turned on you.
Um, well, I'm just thinking like sleepy little Enid Oklahoma, you know, and now all of a sudden you have these types of politics, right-wing, left-wing type of thing playing out.
I would hope that somebody would draw some lessons.
Yeah, you shook it up a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I certainly hope so.
I mean, I mean, I you certainly will be surprised.
There's that old saying that, you know, when you do lose everything, you'll be surprised who deserts you and who rallies to you.
Yeah.
The people who deserted me, yeah, that's that's really disappointing.
But the people who rallied to me, I mean, they were, I never expected that.
And I think I don't know.
Um, there's certainly going to be a lot of division in this town.
I just hope that the people who are fence sitters are going to realize: look, I mean, you just empowered the left in this community and they're not going to go away.
I mean, they're going to feel emboldened.
So, right.
Hopefully, you know, some people will learn a lesson from this.
I don't, unfortunately, don't think many of them will, but you know, at the end of the day, I, you know, it's a difficult question to answer, Sam.
Yeah.
We're running short on time, but I forgot about this.
I didn't have it in my questions, but your brake lines were cut during the campaign.
And this is particularly relevant for the guys who are like, look at what this guy went through, only to be betrayed by the mayor and some of the GOP establishment.
Plus, he could have died.
And the media just made it out, like, you know, you either made that up or, you know, you paid a buddy to like fiddle with your brakes or something.
What happened there briefly, if you don't mind?
Yeah, no.
So basically, I was, this was November, early November.
They were collecting signatures in my neighborhood that evening.
And that evening, I was working in my garage.
I had a lot of projects going on, you know, painting stuff, moving stuff in and out of the house.
So basically, I'm working until 11:30, just trying to get stuff done.
So I'm just, you know what, my truck's fine outside for one evening.
What's the worst that can happen?
So I get up the next morning.
I mean, I usually park it inside the garage overnight.
So get up the next morning.
I go to a men's group for church and come home.
I change.
I go.
It was also Veterans Day and I go to downtown where the Veterans Day parade is.
I parked in a behind a public school building in a parking lot where there were cameras and left my truck there, came back, left the parade, went to a gas station.
Then I went to another place.
And I felt like when I got to that other place, like my brakes, like, man, I'm having to push this all the way to the floorboard.
What's going on?
Yep.
Telltale.
So, yeah.
So I went home.
I think I had some brake fluid, put it in my truck, went to my parents' house, watched, I don't know, a college football game, had dinner with them, came home.
I talked off my brake fluid then at their house, and I'm like, okay, something's wrong.
So I get to my house and just brake fluid is just dripping out.
So I go, next day, it's a Sunday.
I call this friend of mine who's a mechanic.
He opens up his shop, take it to him.
He takes the tire off.
He says, man, that doesn't look good.
And he starts taking it apart.
He said, man, somebody messed with you.
And he pointed it out.
You see this right here?
This doesn't happen.
You would have to be like, right, he said this, like, you'd have to be driving 100 miles an hour through like barbed wire and broken glass for this just to happen on its own.
So I took the part, filed a police report, gave the police a couple days to do something.
Then I emailed the local paper along with the mayor and the other commissioners.
And I also emailed Oklahoma City TV station.
And, you know, unfortunately, I didn't have any cameras at my home.
So I gave the police like lesson learned there.
Yeah.
If you're prominent, guys, whether you're running for office or just a regular dissident who's doxed, you got to have cameras.
Yeah.
So I gave them the two periods in which it probably could have been done overnight at my house or this like two, three hour window when I was at the parade.
They got the footage from that school parking lot building, didn't show anything.
So that it was just kind of a dead end.
I mean, there's nothing that they can go off of.
I did give them some names of people that I thought would possibly do it.
Sure.
But, you know, without like any video evidence, it's tough for them to do anything.
But, you know, you get accused of like, oh, he did it himself to get media attention.
Well, feel free to like make a FOIA request and see who I emailed.
You know, if I was trying to get media attention, I would have emailed every single media station in Oklahoma City, in Tulsa, Fox News, Tucker Carlson.
I mean, you name it.
I would, I would email them all.
Yep.
Tucker comes to mind, possible interview for you in the future.
What are two?
We're milking you here.
How's business speaking of consequences for running as a controversial candidate?
Business doing okay, drop off increase, I hope.
Oh, it's just fine.
I mean, it's kind of a job that depends on weather, on severe weather, which we have.
Tomorrow, we actually have a really good chance of severe weather.
So we'll see.
I mean, in this economy, it's tough for people to, without that insurance money, it's tough for people to pay for my business, which is a roofing company.
I mean, you know, I tell customers, I mean, look, be prepared for a little bit of sticker shock because I mean, you get sticker shock nowadays when you go to the grocery stores.
So roofing has been affected by this economy too.
So, but no, I mean, it's my dad, you know, my dad made his living doing this.
He told me, man, there's some years that are lean, and then there's some years that you're living high off the hog.
When I hear roofing, my eyes narrow.
And I certainly hope, Mr. Blevins, you're not employing any illegal Salvadorian roofers.
No, where I came from in Northern Virginia, you couldn't find a white roofer for 100 miles in a radius.
And then all of a sudden, you move to a rural America and all the roofers are actually native-born white Americans.
Same with hotels, you know, all of the garbage about jobs that white people won't do that natural boards.
You go outside the big cities where the influx has been.
And what do you know?
Good, normal white people doing jobs that supposedly they're too proud or too lazy or too stupid to do.
Yeah.
It's remarkable.
I do have a story about that.
My dad would always give people grief when they would say, well, these Hispanics do it because Americans won't do it.
My dad would always push back.
He said, look, they're hard workers.
I'll give them that.
But me and my crew back in our prime, we were hard workers too.
And here's the difference.
All these crews today, they've got a lot better material to work with.
It goes on smoother.
It's a lot smoother application.
They got better tools.
They got better equipment.
They got air-powered nail guns.
They got this and that.
They got all these safety features.
Man, back in my prime, we were handnailing everything and it was tear off and it was tough work, but we could get the job done back then.
Amen.
Well, you got the job done once.
You kind of got betrayed, frankly, in my opinion.
And I'm sorry for that.
We tried from our little perch here to boost you and get some shekels in your account and you almost pulled it off.
And as somebody once said, I mean, hey, this guy, you know, faced an onslaught of negative media attention and still got a very good showing on the recall election, which is promising for the future.
Now, the million-dollar question, Mr. Blevins, are you done with politics or are you still in the game?
You still want to go back and take another bite of the apple?
We'll see.
We'll see.
I mean, I don't think I will run for Ward 1 city commissioner again.
I mean, I think, you know, you got to move up, even though you faced a tremendous challenge.
I mean, hey, I walked away with 57% of the Republican vote in a very high turnout.
So we'll see.
I mean, we'll see what comes around.
I will say this.
I mean, I think lost in all this was the fact that this was a volunteer office.
He didn't get paid a dollar for it.
I mean, it wasn't a full-time job for sure, but it certainly was something I had to dedicate a lot of free time to.
But I didn't get paid a dollar.
If I run for anything else, I'll probably, it'll probably be for something that actually pays me a little bit.
Sure.
Rolo, any questions for Judd?
He's shaking his head.
Nope.
I don't want to keep him.
Yeah, very good.
Yeah.
He's he's got to do tomorrow.
And I had one last one for you.
Okay.
Last piece of advice for guys in the audience who are thinking about running for office.
One thing or 10 things, whatever has your chance.
Well, you certainly have to have a good ground game.
You certainly have to have connections in your community.
And to do that, you need to get involved in your local community.
I mean, you know, if you simply look around to these groups like Mobs for Liberty or, you know, American Heritage Kids, or I think it's American Heritage Girls, which is kind of the Christian equivalent to Girl Scouts.
Yep.
You go to church groups, you'll find local people that are conservative, that are right-wing, that are very concerned about the direction that things are going.
They themselves can be your good base of volunteers, of networks.
I mean, they know people.
They've got their own networks.
You have to have a good ground game.
And that, frankly, guys, I keep hammering this, but you do need to get offline and you do need to get involved in the local scene.
I mean, you don't need to go around and rubbing elbows with the Chamber of Commerce and try to, you know, get to know who's who in your community, but you need to find people who do know other people.
You do need to be good at networking.
And frankly, I mean, the issues, you know, know the issues, know the job that you're running for.
And you don't have to speak about, you know, big ticket items.
Now, if you're running for Congress or governor or senator, yes, by all means, talk about that stuff.
But, you know, at the municipal level, people, you know, it's about the infrastructure.
It's about things like that, about keeping the young people here, about bringing in industry, which brings in jobs.
So, you know, keep it simple, stupid.
Yep.
Touch grass, but don't trespass.
Don't touch your neighbor's grass.
No, and I'm just thinking out loud, you know, thinking out loud here too, whether politics really is a quote unquote undoxed guy's game, because you are frankly a cautionary tale of somebody, you know, you won, but then they were able to point out the dissident activities or wrongthink and then sort of shiv you with that.
And you still came close.
So I wouldn't say it's like completely an undoing, you know, you did it.
It just didn't work out well for a number of reasons.
Yeah.
Well, you know, if it's an office where there is no mechanism for recall, I mean, shoot, if you're undox, go for it.
Yeah.
At the same time, too, like if you've ever made an off mark online, right?
I mean, politicians get thrown out of office or like exposed to fake scandals all the time, right?
You know, you make one ill-advised post on Facebook and they could, you know, seize on that.
So don't think that you have to.
Yeah.
And one last thing.
I mean, I mean, there is the law of diminishing returns.
I mean, I don't want to say doxing doesn't matter anymore, but things are changing.
I mean, you look at these, I said we weren't going to talk about this, but these protests on college campuses, well, you just had at Old Miss, like a guy make fun of a, you know, of a black woman in a way that in 2017, I mean, this kid would have like completely disappeared.
And he didn't even like, I mean, he maybe like temporarily like deleted his social media accounts, but as of today, like he's right back on.
Like it doesn't matter anymore.
So things are changing.
Like I do feel short-term pessimistic, but long-term optimistic.
Amen, brother.
Well, sincere thanks, not just for your time on this show and coming on with us, but for your service for Standing Tall and Charlottesville, for serving the country and the Marine Corps, even though we don't advise our listeners to do that any longer because of how much things have changed.
And most importantly, for, you know, you could have easily said no and had a simpler, less headache-ridden life and no cut break lines and no exposés.
Instead, you prayed on it and you decided to stand tall and you live to tell the tale and hopefully tell a lot more.
So we're proud of you, big guy.
And thank you for your service most sincerely.
Thank you, Matt.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Sam.
Thank you, Rolo.
You bet.
And you got the music, Judd.
So if there's a jam you want to play at the break, we're going to go into the second half to talk about those campus protesters and the frat boys and stuff.
So it's over to you for the break music.
Thanks again.
Yeah.
The break music is a Johnny Horton song called The Battle of New Orleans.
I picked this out because for some reason, I had been thinking the past couple days about my high school history teacher who was also the baseball coach.
And the guy was close to 70 back then.
I mean, if he's still alive, he's close to 90 now.
But he was a real character, and he would always like sing this song.
Like in 1814, we took a little trip.
And I don't know why.
I was just thinking about him the other day.
And Matt, you told me, like, hey, you get to pick break music.
And I had this like tune in my head.
I was like, you know what?
I'll give a shout out to my old high school baseball coach with this.
Amen.
I like that you called me Matt the entire show.
Glenn Allen, famous lawyer for the Free Expression Foundation.
He's the only one.
It's totally fine by me.
It's charming.
So God bless you, Judd.
Thank you for the service.
This is the Battle of New Orleans, and we'll be right back.
All right.
See you guys.
Take care.
14-14, we took a little trip Along with Colonel Jackson down to mighty Mississippi We took a little bacon and we took a little beans.
And we caught the bloody British in a town in New Orleans.
We fired our guns and the British kept a coming.
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to run it.
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
We looked down a river and we see the British come.
And there must have been a hundred of them beating on the drum.
They stepped so high and they made the bugles ring.
We stood beside our cottonfields and didn't say a thing.
We fired our guns and the British kept for coming.
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to run in.
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico, old Hickory said we could take them by surprise if we didn't fire muskets till we looked them in the eye.
We held our fire till we see their faces well.
Then we opened up our squirrel guns and really gave them well.
We fired our guns and the British kept a coming.
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to run it.
Oh, down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles and they ran through the bushes where rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch them.
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico We fired our cannon till the barrel melted down.
So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round.
We filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind.
And when we touched the powder off the gator lost his mind, we fired our guns and the British kept a coming.
There wasn't as many as there was a while ago.
We fired once more and they began to run it.
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Yeah, they ran through the briars and then through the brambles.
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch it.
On down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
And welcome back to Full House episode 185.
Fourth Times of Charm.
That's right.
Hopefully I'm not roboting too bad.
I had to restart the router, restart the laptop.
And let me tell you on a not particularly new Windows laptop.
Yes, yes.
I know I should be running Linux.
It takes quite a while for it to reboot.
And let me make sure the piano is off.
Rolo and Sam have been sitting there cooling their heels for quite some time.
Anyway, it looks like we are operational.
Nobody's telling me that I am Domo Arrigato, Mr. Roboto, coach and the crew back.
I've got a sweltering glass of cheap too sweet wine, which is very good because it's keeping me away from it.
Frankly, I, you know, my wife likes to drink wine and I am notoriously a skin flint.
So I'm like, do I really have to, can I get you a box of wine?
You know, go with a Boda box or whatever.
Okay, fine, fine, Boda box.
And then I said, well, perhaps we could buy the Oak Leaf brand from Walmart.
You might like it.
She's like, it's okay.
It's not great, like, but fine.
And then the other day I said, well, how about we move on to Franzia?
And there was some resistance there.
But the Franzia Chardonnay is very good, but they were out of that the other day and they only had crisp white, clean white.
And that's the swell that I am suffering through now.
So my wife doesn't have to.
Anyway, good to be back.
God bless Judd Blevins.
Thank him for not just coming on the show, but for standing tall.
And I'll be honest with you, audience, I don't know whether to be heartened or disheartened by his experience.
I'm certainly grateful that he put in the fight and got the lessons learned that we could share with you.
But it's an uphill battle.
It's an uphill battle for like anybody to enter politics and one, win, two, be effective, three, get re-elected, four, not be, you know, somehow corrupted or bought off by special interests.
And for somebody like us or with our general worldview to pull it off as a docs person, stay in office, affect change in our direction.
I'll just say it's an uphill battle.
And I'm glad that Judd decided to take it on.
Let's get cracking here.
We do have to talk about the talk of the town, which is, of course, the, well, the campus protesters and the counter protesters and the police responses.
I'm going to, well, we'll get to it.
But first, we got some really lovely feedback from the audience on the new white life front, as well as on the you guys are awesome front.
And we'll start with Lawn Barber, just because I love his name.
I too am a lawn barber and a real barber, at least in this household.
And Lawn Barber let us know that number three was just born this morning, whenever he sent that in.
Don't know the date.
I just wanted to give some thanks to you and Sam, especially for what you men do.
Keep it up.
Great.
Yep.
Congratulations.
Mr. and Mrs. Lawn Barber.
Some days we're lawn barbers, some days depending on dandelions are.
Dandelions are remarkable.
I don't sure you don't have any in your yard, Sam, but it's like, I will mow the lawn and it'll be, you know, perfectly, you know, flat.
And the next day, it's like the dandelions have shot up and they're sprouting their seeds.
When they're ready to be feckin', they are going.
Toons let us know that he welcomed his second.
I think we gave Toons.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
Way to go, buddy.
Congratulations to your wife as well.
I did not make any notes about the details intentionally or unintentionally.
Sorry about that, bro.
But you're already a great dad and you will expand to being a great dad to more.
And a blast from the past reached out to me on an old platform.
Hans Dahl, boat painter.
He was a Twitter mutual.
He was a fan of the fatherland.
He said, I don't know if you're still on this thing, but I was just telling you the other day, we welcome number four.
Way to go.
Hans did the bit and he moved to the country during COVID and he said, I've never been happier.
My commute is way easier.
My cost of living is way down.
And he said, unfortunately, I don't listen to that many podcasts anymore because I don't have a long commute anymore, which I can totally identify.
But it's wonderful.
And the weird thing is I was actually like randomly thinking about him because, you know, never met him, no idea who he is, but just always sort of a kind, friendly soul online.
And I was thinking about him the other day.
And boom, out of the woodwork, he pops up like a jack in the box, like a jack in the box.
Congratulations, Hans, to you and your wife.
Got a new white life announcement from down under.
My wife and I brought our first and second child into the world recently.
Identical twin boys.
Both are healthy and strong.
A few months later from birth, we've realized how manageable one child really is.
Two is a different story.
So true.
My wife even had her brother pass away a week before birth and had some health problems.
We still have been able to manage.
So if we can handle two, everyone out there can definitely handle one.
That's right.
Get to it, ladies.
Get to it, ladies and gents.
Hail Victory.
P.S. If there's any listeners to the show who are expecting twins and need advice, please feel free to get them in touch from me.
And I'll just say that's from Andre.
No idea if that's his real name or not.
Probably Australia.
Andre, way to go.
Two heads are better than one.
Double the pleasure, triple the work, something like that.
That is great.
Well, I would only just say for anyone who's who's maybe had that first baby and how difficult even one can seem, that I want to acknowledge that it's never easy.
The more support you have, the more family you have around you and people that are willing to pitch in and give you breaks and make sure you're getting your rest, that all helps.
But even having one, I've known people who have one and it's like, man, how do the people to do it that just go on to a second and a third and a fourth and a fifth?
Yeah, that's all valid.
And if you have one and it seems hard, that's because it is.
But, you know, you learn how to do it, just like anything.
You know, you start to see, okay, this is a system now.
The key thing to understand is if you think you're going to lead a life of going to bars or being able to go to the gym all the time or play video games as much as you want or whatever it is, those days, those days are those days are behind you.
That's not how family life is.
Family life is maybe when you get to my stage, you start to feel like you have a certain amount of free time, but family life is no joke and requires commitment for sure.
Amen.
100%.
Yeah, I've been listening to Night Comes for the Cumberlands.
I can't remember if I mentioned that on a previous show.
Wonderful book from 1962 about the state counties and Kentucky and coal mining, big business and labor agitation.
And I was just like, can you imagine going down into a dangerous mine for the first time, breathing all the ash and the risk of explosion and cave-ins?
And then you realize some of these hard asses did it for 40 years or 30, you know, whatever.
And it's like the first days of this kid's tough stuff, but everything.
And speaking of twins, I think I can share this.
They wouldn't mind.
The Smashers, the McKev, within recent history, we were actually, you know, Sam was on a camping trip.
We were thinking about a fifth anniversary special with the McKevitts, but it didn't work out.
Speaking of twins, two sets of twins.
Their older twins now are, you know, when they were, you know, two-year-olds, I was like, holy moly, like the work, the mess, the runny noses, the daughter, but they're now like quite civilized, well-behaved, good company.
It's like, yeah, you know, you don't get food all over the floor.
And then they've got the other set of younger twins.
And I'm like, good Lord, you know, after a weekend, I was like, I totally respect Michael and Allison for having the wherewithal, like the, you know, the early mornings, the late nights, the diapers, all the rest of it.
Sure.
And the sticky, sticky door handles.
I didn't realize, Sam, I'm getting, I was like, my door handles are sticky.
I cannot have this.
You know, what's going on here?
But they were good company.
We had a lot of fun.
And just very briefly, my wife and my oldest are on a, they're, they're for a short trip special mission, not too special.
So it's just been me and the younger two kids here.
And I thought it was going to be like really like awesome.
And, you know, like wife and junior are out of town.
Like we can kick it.
But it's, but in sincerity, it's been a little bit quiet and a little bit dour.
And I actually said to my daughter today, weird, I, they helped me.
We went on the stream to pick out a lot of big, flat, heavy rocks to make a stone pathway.
And then in re in reward for their dubious labor efforts, they were identifying.
I was doing the work.
I said, all right, I'll take you guys to get some ice cream.
And then I said to my daughter, as we were driving back, I was like, well, this would, this is what it would be like if, you know, mom and junior died in a car crash.
And then she looked at me and her eyes, oh, I'm so total, stupid dad fail.
Don't worry, you know, but, but, you know, the thought crossed my mind.
This is what it was.
This is like a little temporary brief vision into what a smaller, you know, reduced family would be like.
And she did not like that one bit, despite the nice time that we've had.
All right.
Well, I also, I remember GK Chesterton made a quote.
He said something like, I'm paraphrasing that every generation society is invaded by barbarians.
And, you know, which is just to say each, you know, new group, group of people growing up and they kind of disrupt everything and then they learn how to be a civilized part of that society.
And then it happens all over again.
So that's the kind of mentality you have to accept having one or more children is that there's going to be chaos.
There's going to be some disruption and some messes that you have to deal with, but it's all worth it.
And you might even John Anon in the comment zone the other day said, I'm really worried about this Sid's business.
And somebody said, well, Sid's sudden infant death syndrome is really like, you know, obese black woman, you know, rolling over on her baby and then saying he just died.
And I said, well, you know, I do actually know somebody who suffered the loss of an infant in a crib for no explicit, explicit reason or apparent reason.
But I said, you know, that's still extremely rare and you've got bigger things than that.
Yeah.
So don't let that preoccupy your thoughts or concerns.
And we haven't done a coach's comfy corner in quite some time.
And this just came to me.
I realized, I haven't done that in a really long time.
Maybe I'm slacking.
But I like to ask the kids random questions when I feel like perhaps they're not knowledgeable about basic geography or like thinking about what they want to do.
Just, you know, like have a seat.
I'm going to ask you some questions.
We can call it quiz time or So I asked our youngest, I said, of all the places in the world, he's five.
I said, where would you like to go on vacation?
Because he knows about the Eiffel Tech videos and pictures and all this stuff.
And he said, grandma and grandpas, which melted my heart and even more melted my parents' hearts when I told them.
He didn't say Haiti.
Yeah, no.
Are you grandma and grandpa black?
No.
Well, no, you know, you, and immediately, I was like, ooh, well, the other grandparents are going to be totally been out of shape, but he hasn't been there as often, you know, so he doesn't, you know, he doesn't have a point of reference quite so recently in his mind.
And then I said, okay, well, who are your favorite people in the world?
Thinking maybe he would say mom and dad or his brother and sister.
Yeah, Rolo could.
And he said, Baba.
And then, and then he said, Baba and Deda, which is in Serbian, how you would say the other set of grandparents and grandma and grandpa.
So they got top billing.
So shared that with him.
So the grandparents got covered from our youngest when seriously asking him, he pointed to his grandparents.
So a little heartwarming anecdote from the home front here.
Figure I didn't want to leave that one off.
Anyway, get to these two or three comments here.
I love them.
Coach, I've been listening to the podcast for a year now, and I really appreciate you guys.
It's nice to sit back, crack a cold one, and enjoy a cigar while listening to you.
It's like hanging out with friends.
I'm trying not to come off as a kiss ass, as I honestly mean this.
You guys give out a vibe you don't get from other podcasts.
I'm a father.
I'm married to my high school sweetheart.
We have two kiddos, and I firmly believe the future is bright and our time is coming.
I know there are more folks like me that lurk and aren't as outspoken online that listen in.
So please keep the episodes rolling.
You always have a listener here in the crossroads of America.
And that's from Chaz.
Thank you, Chaz.
Clearly, a veteran of the autonomous anarchist zone in Seattle.
Rolo, you spent some time in Chaz, didn't you?
Or were you already red-pilled by then?
Well, I was a co-founder.
It wasn't barbecue up there, but they had a similar like black warlord.
What the hell was his name?
It was like fried chicken.
Nice pick.
Yeah.
Watermelon, man.
Yeah, he was right already.
They were like, well, he's.
He looked like a little Wayne.
And then I probably acted like him.
F for Chaz.
Yes.
Never forget what they took from us or from them.
Thank you, Chaz, sincerely.
And yes, just one more here.
Hey, coach, big fan of the show, stuck in Philadelphia.
That's a name I have not heard since the early 90s when he's called Philadelphia.
Trying to raise my three boys correctly.
I thought I'd send a video of my 11-year-old and my two-year-old spending some quality time together.
Little one is handing baseballs to his big brother for batting practice.
So this guy has one of those security cameras out front of his house, as you all should probably have, even if you're worried about Zog and the surveillance catching you doing something bad.
I think it's worth it to have it.
Do your homework.
And it was just a lovely picture of the little brother tossing baseballs up as his big brother took, you know, major wings into the thing.
And also, interestingly, he said a friend in jiu-jitsu class recommended the show.
Hands down, best thing around, finally gave me hope to completely give up on Crowder's show.
Every time he mentioned Nazis are bad, my testicles shriveled up a little bit.
Always thought if this poor bastard knew Uncle A was fighting for people like him, it would be a different story.
And then, hey, I let him know that I grew up in South Jersey, but didn't spend too much time in Philly.
He said, Camden is damn near uninhabitable now.
What's new?
Even the Aquarium area that's a downtown on the Delawar River uh, where they put in a brand new aquarium like in the early 90s has become rancid with homelessness.
I've been trying to get the family out of here for a bit, but you know the market, keep up the great work to you and guys.
And he said thanks, thank you, and I deliberately I, I deliberately left his his day off there.
Yeah, it was n.
We'll just call him n.
You know for what.
All right and well, I speaking, speaking of yeah well uh, so Sam, Sam confirmed, uh, it was Simone who was the lead, the default leader of the.
I remember it.
Now I don't have my, I don't.
Well, it's raw Simone, somebody's Raz maybe uh, but I don't have my glasses on, so I, I had to get really close.
It says American rapper.
But I thought it said another thing that you know had the same number of uh vowels and consonants that ends with er and I was like whoa Sam, where did you pull this from?
But sadly I was disappointed.
It said rapper.
I mean, it's the same thing right yeah yeah, I looked up.
I looked up Reginald Denny today out of morbid curiosity, because somebody on twitter posted a picture of you know him.
After he had gotten bricked in the head and uh, all those guys that uh almost killed him caused him severe brain damage.
He had to go through years like one of them.
Uh, they got totally acquitted of attempted murder it was like you know the lowest degree of assault and stuff like that and then the, the primary, primary perpetrator got out, committed another crime, went in and he actually got uh re-sentenced, perhaps to life some really long thing.
Oh, so they were black.
Yeah yeah uh yes, they were black.
They looked.
If you look at the picture, one of them's like celebrating.
He's got do-rag on, he looks just like ice cube uh, during the La riots uh, but never forget Reginald Denny.
And Reginald Denny he's like living in the middle of nowhere, he doesn't do media appearances and he kind of like hugged the parents as assailants.
You know it's like Jesus.
Yeah, i'm not saying that you should hit the accelerator uh into, you're not hostile, but whatever you do, you can't stop in the middle of a black race riot and uh lock, lock your cars.
Yeah oh, the windshield was totally smashed.
Reginald Denny, real blast from the past.
I remember that Rollo's probably too young to remember the riots when they were well, speaking of the la riots and the do-rags and kafias or however the hell you say it.
Uh, all seriousness the, at least the mystical I don't know how much it is in terms of power, but we have not seen campus protests sit-ins, police responses like this probably, since I mean, maybe I Occupy Wall Street wasn't on campuses necessarily, that was in cities.
I guess you got to go back to the 70s yeah, or a widespread campus protest thing like this.
Now, I lived in the, would have hated the peacenick hippie faggots with their flowers and their communism and their Jewish agitators.
I honestly would have.
And there's lots of narratives here.
And what makes it really interesting is the conflict and how it doesn't easily fit into good guy and bad guy.
And part of that is because we are no longer, of course, we are simply anti-leftist and we support what they're right.
We support law and order.
And we certainly don't support our greatest ally in the Middle East.
But it's a delightful concoction of conflicting narratives.
The left is jammed up on it.
The right is jammed up on it to a certain extent, mostly just between conservative Republicans and guys like us who actually know the score on Jews and on race.
So the easy, the easiest thing to say is that, well, now you know the clearest questionable narrative is that these were not, maybe there was a little bit of violence and they were like breaking regulation, making racket and keeping kids from going to school and maybe like cat calling Jews.
But this was not like a violent campus uprising like you had Columbia in the 70s where they literally like armed, took over, built like this.
It was like a kind of lame 2020 version of that.
They're being, I don't, there's so much to cover.
I want to give you first, Sam, to your reactions.
You know, do you the obvious question?
Well, the supporters probably don't like us, but they're protesting the right thing.
And for that, we should at least keep our mouths shut or even pay lip service to their service of opposing genocide in Gaza and opposing the Israeli state.
Yeah, sure.
I mean, it's, it's a moment where everything is coming into conflict with everything, you know, so it's, it's really great.
The axis of alliances on the left is so fragile, and you're seeing it fracturing now because you have these Palestinians, which the Palestinians that are the real ones there in the Middle East would be very conservative type people, where the women have to wrap themselves up in a bag and not talk and everything like that.
Not necessarily being true like Saudi style repressive Muslims from my experience, but certainly conservative than the campus.
They'd be very conservative in their outlook on things, but they're being lionized by these most extreme radical left anti-fat types who themselves have a very fragile relationship with the larger left-wing political establishment of the United States.
So no part of this, no leg of this triangle really has any strength to it at all.
And there's so many lessons to be drawn from this.
You know, the most hilariously, this news incident that was reported where the pro Israel or pro-American counter protesters were chanting F Joe Biden.
And then the Palestinian free Palestine people are everyone's chanting it together.
I mean, truly, Joe Biden has united this country in a way that no one could have ever foreseen.
You know, that was so awful.
Yeah, it's so ridiculous.
And then, so these free Palestine, yeah, there's elements of their message that we could agree with for sure, but they're, they are not the brightest bulbs in the, in the box, shall we say.
Even if they got accepted to Columbia or whatever.
I guess it's, you know, and that's the other thing.
The whole value of, excuse me, a college degree from that university.
I mean, imagine you're running some business, right?
And then somebody shows up and they want to work there and they present to you, oh, look, I have a degree from Columbia University.
You'd have to say like, whoa, wait a minute.
You know, this is what kind of person.
Yeah, for sure.
Red flag.
And I mean, if you see these people get interviewed, I mean, these people are not smart at all.
I mean, I would think anybody could see that.
But so here they are.
They're setting up their area that they're showing that they could seize this certain amount of real estate and control it and stuff, which they're only being allowed to do it, right?
By the powers that be.
They cannot hold this.
Yeah, for a while, but they act like they've taken this and they're holding it and this is theirs and they're making their point, which is only they're being, yeah, they're being allowed to make the point because if we did the same thing, oh, I guarantee you, every unit would be mobilized to get rid of us.
But once they have their spot, there they are holding some area.
And then you have the counter protesters coming up.
They're throwing live fireworks in among them.
They're attacking the people.
And they suddenly look very weak once they've done this thing they think is so smart and brave as to what they think they're holding some kind of territory.
But now that sets them up to be attacked, you know, it's very easy to attack somebody that's sitting there in the middle, just holding something, right?
And so it is a fascinating study in tactics and what, you know, should we ever be involved in some kind of action of protest or political expression?
You know, this just goes to show you how, okay, so they've been allowed to do this thing.
And then here you can see the other side easily assembles and just picking them off, you know, and then finally the order was obviously given from on high at some point, because just like that, everything west coast, east coast, anywhere, you know, all of a sudden Virginia, Georgia, California, New York.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like magic.
Guess what?
The party is over.
So, you know, a lot of lessons to be drawn here.
Yeah.
Law and order, law and order, the contrast.
Now, I'm thinking about, we're going to Rolo next for sure, who again does not have any strong opinions on this.
I'll tee him up with you.
But I suspect that the audience is roughly 50-50.
There's the take that the enemy of my enemy is at least temporarily my friend.
So whether these protesters, they are clearly protesting Israel and its activities in Gaza, bare minimum.
I don't think you can debate that.
I would argue that you can't possibly be so young and dumb to not understand that it's not about like evil white man colonialism in Palestine and that there is a Jewish element here.
Like you can't be pro-Palestinian and not realize that there's a JQ aspect here.
Some of you can't.
Okay.
And then there's the, I saw it on Twitter a little that you don't you dare say a good word about what is overwhelmingly a leftist white radical,
you know, would string no good bunch of pink-haired Muslim-loving freaks, essentially, who are just doing performative left love more than a suffering or a oppressed black or brown crowd bet to the Uyghurs,
to, I don't know, the Rohingya in Bangladesh or in Burma slash Myanmar to Central America, right?
If there's a, if there's a brown class of people suffering somewhere in the world, left of the details.
So there's an element of that in Palestine.
Sure.
Yeah.
And I'll be honest with you, I lean in the camp of these people are protesting against something that is manifestly unjust.
Yeah.
Israel brutal.
Is it a genocide?
Yeah, probably.
Do you know those people?
Like, of course, if the Jews could get away with it, they would kill every last Palestinian and take all that land, drive them out, ideally send them to Europe or, you know, whatever, pound them into rubble or send them our way, which, of course, politicians are thinking about accepting.
And snuck in there with the army stuff.
And then there's the people who are like, no, I just can't get over the fact and you should support the wearing American flag overalls and counter-protesting them.
And I ought to say that too, but I'll stop there.
This protesting for the right reason, even if it's for the wrong reason, and the cops come in to shut them down, Jews act Republican Party bending over backwards to be as suddenly pro-white and pro-safe spaces for Jews things come out.
Well, well, the other thing that is so reprehensible of what is so reprehensible about, yeah, like you say, there's some part of you that likes to see when the cops come in and they're beating the heads out of these, beating the crap out of the pink-haired leftists and all that.
I actually didn't.
Yeah, I didn't even submit like an older than me would, but after seeing what the Virginia State Police did to us in Charlottesville and then seeing them do the same thing, like there was no latent pleasure from seeing that, even if they were cracking skulls.
Well, perhaps some people might take some kind of pleasure in that.
But if you want to see what the reality is, look what these so-called Republican, pro-American people do is immediately they start promoting this anti-Semitism law.
You know, sure.
That's how if that doesn't tell you what the sides are and where your sympathy should be, if you want to have any at all, that really says it there.
Yes.
And what was one of the first laws that the Bolsheviks passed in the Soviet Union after they seized power against the provisionary government, the temporary government after the February Revolution when the Tsar was murdered, kicked out?
It was to ban anti-Semitism.
And there we go.
I actually, I'm not sure that it's going to pass the Senate and go to Biden's desk.
I remain skeptical.
I hope I'm not roboting too bad.
But Rolo, you have very strong feelings about this.
Please present a unified theory that 100% of the audience will agree with and be angry about simultaneously.
Oh, that's easy.
I can do that.
No problem.
So I feel like I've been, I have, my position on this really hasn't changed is do not seek friends from leftists.
There are no.
principled leftists.
There's no like, well, they're pro-union and pro-worker and anti-capitalist.
And look, they're criticizing Israel.
That's just like me.
Pro-environment.
Yeah.
So they are not anti-Semites.
They're not.
And they'll tell you, well, the Israeli government, it's bad.
And I've actually heard this exact thing from multiple people.
The government isn't reflective of the people there.
And that's why I think so many Jews get a bad rap.
And that's why there's so much anti-Semitism.
They are being a notorious warhog.
They are helps that narrative.
They are anti-white.
They don't know anything about the Torah.
They don't know anything about the Talmud.
They don't know anything about Jewish power.
They don't know that it's Jews that run the media, run the banks, that are in the high levels of academia in politics, lobbying.
They don't know any of that stuff.
In fact, if you were to bring it up to them, they would call you a Nazi and they would do what they could to ruin your life.
They see white people, white colonizers attacking poor brown people.
So that is what mobilized them because these are the same people that marched for George Groyd.
Oh, look at these white people, these white cops, these racists, white cops.
It's the same people.
It is the same people.
Now, if there's a bunch of twice a day.
Go ahead.
Well, it's not a broken clock right twice a day.
It's like the clock was broken.
And as it was about to be right, someone smashed it on the ground.
And it kind of looks like the hands are pointing to 1143.
Kind of.
Because they're not criticizing Jewish power.
They're criticizing white people.
They don't.
They're criticizing Israeli government military activity.
No, no, no, they're not.
They're not because they have no understanding about what that country does and what the people in it are like.
They just see white people doing more white war crimes, just like no different than George W. Bush or any other neocon, John McCain.
They just see the same thing.
But as I was getting to, they are causing people to notice what the outcome of them doing this is.
Because Jews don't see it as, ah, they just think we're white, no problem.
Because these people were radicalized by Jewish professors.
Who do you think taught them to do that?
It wasn't black and Mexican professors.
It wasn't the spiritual.
There are blacks and Mexican professors at the colleges they're at, but they're a minority.
And that mindset, it comes down from Jews.
But them doing this causes people to see like, okay, well, blacks destroy the country.
You know, silence.
Israeli government is being protested.
And it's not nothing that happened.
They destroyed libraries.
They destroyed.
The amount of damage they did, it wasn't negligible.
And it still was actual damage.
You know, they didn't kill people or whatever, but they still caused a lot of damage.
But because of that, the cops went in to stop it, unlike the George Floyd riots.
And an anti-Semitism bill was proposed.
So I don't think they're ever going to get it.
Leftists don't get it.
Those people are extremely stupid and they're crazy.
What?
What did I just say?
Well, two things.
One, some of those protesters get it and not.
You think they do.
You think they do.
They have to.
They have to.
You wish they do.
No, no, no.
You wish they do.
I don't.
Well, how many people?
How many MAGA people have never come around to our ideas despite everything that's happening to them?
Do you think J6 people are like, how many J6 people do you think got thrown in jail that are like, well, Trump's going to save me?
Fair enough, but awareness of Jewish power and malignant influence in the world is not a uniquely right-wing or like even necessarily white thing.
No, it's a uniquely clear-minded thing.
And these people, their brain is, it's filled with Xanax pornography and big mouth.
These people aren't going to get it.
Now, you can't get you.
If you, if you, if you don't, you'll hear the point that I'm going to make.
It's the other people that are on the fence will see this.
That's where you're going to see the most positive change.
Okay.
Because these college people, they live the most sheltered life.
Everyone they're surrounded by.
They're surrounded by either communist college professors or students that want to kiss up to the communist college professors.
So they live completely detached from reality.
But normal people see this and they're like, boy, things sure aren't going great today.
And you see these people going, oh, is real war crimes?
And they're like, wait a minute, these guys just, they locked themselves in a library and all the cops came in, but my business got burned down by a bunch of blacks that were that were just breaking things and stealing stuff.
And then the cops took a knee.
Hold on.
How come you're now?
There's an anti-Semitism bill.
Who's in charge here?
Those are the people.
Because you get a lot of people that are like, oh, I'm a moderate.
And, you know, maybe they're going to say, like, well, I wish we had more workers' rights, but I also wish you would do something about immigration.
Those are the people that I think you're going to pick up.
But if you think you're going to make friends with a leftist, oh, like, oh, they don't have to know about Jewish power.
Okay.
They don't.
Those people, they just see white person.
Because I found a really funny tweet and it said that these people aren't anti-Jewish.
They're anti-Israel because anyone can be Jewish.
And that was someone that was defending Jews.
They were, they, I don't like the Israeli government, but you know, anyone can be a Jew.
Yeah, potential Jewish converts.
Well, they will, they will often feature these.
They will often feature these, you know, oh, we have Jews on our side.
Yeah, we, you know, we have Jews that are against what's going on over there and so forth.
Yeah.
And there's, there's plenty of Sam Harris's or you know, Steven Spielberg.
Pick your celebrity Jew that they'll glob on to.
Who is the one guy, the Chomsky, like Noam Chomsky?
Yeah.
Yeah, they'll, they'll, they'll, they, sure.
Yeah, they'll, they'll always like pull these people out, but they, they do not think that there is a difference between a white and a Jew.
And that's, I think that is the core fundamental principle in understanding Jewish power is knowing that they are a race that acts in their own interest.
Totally distinct.
And these people do not understand that.
This is also why the Christian conservative type person will be confused, you know, because going by the pictures, it's the white Israelis having to fight against the brown Palestinians.
Angry brown horde.
Yeah.
So there's that kind of grug association, which if you looked into it a little more, you would see that that's not the case.
But yeah.
I want to push back on Rollo just a little bit there.
And I'm not, I'm not doing, I'm not doing a bit.
I don't have a narrative to spin.
I honestly just want to see this the way it is.
And for our, well, we want to see it as accurately as possible.
And of course, take advantage of it as much as possible.
And I had an interaction with a black anti-Israelite or anti-Semite.
And, you know, we're going back and forth.
And we're like, I was like, you understand that they're the problem, that it's, it's not us.
Like, you know, Hanke is not oppressing you.
Like you're seeing it in real time.
And Lucid agreed.
And I was like, Europe for white people, Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians.
No disagreement.
Now, you're probably right in the majority, Rolo, but I do, I think you're discounting a little bit their ability.
Are they ever going to not be leftists?
Are they ever not going to be libtards?
No, probably not.
You know, it's always going to be when they quit the drugs and stop watching the porn.
Yeah.
The JQ2, I wanted to say that.
And the like somebody said, well, why don't you go to a campus sit-in and hold up a sign that says like openers for Israel and see what happens.
I said, you know what?
That's actually a very interesting idea to hold up, you know, one of our signs or go in there and talk.
And somebody said, I'd do that if I wasn't worried about getting fired.
The close one of you University, which of course I am an alumnus of graduate school, and it attracted all the attention from other areas.
And I suspect if you went there or in an asshole and talked about the sins of Israel, not just against Palestine, but against America, against Syria, against all the other countries in there, that you would find receptive ears.
Not saying that we're friends.
You'd lose them at America.
They would say, good, America deserves it because they're imperialist colonizers.
But I mean, they're getting shut police and they're getting marching orders from politicians and Joe Biden.
You know, if Trump were in office right now, they would absolutely fascist state, you know, coming down a peaceful protest.
But they got Britain in office and it certainly appeared like these were arms and saying, no, this is a big effing deal that will drive down this turnout for Biden or maybe drive them toward RFK, which as we know, he's sort of dudes to them as well.
Just, I think it's, I don't, I'm not triangulating.
I'm not trying to be like, you know, let's, let's make the best of this.
I just think that there are actually intelligent, good people there who feel compelled to protest against Israel and know the score, which brings us to the flip side of it.
And I think that those people have no value other than being an accidental inconvenience for the enemy of the world, which I'm okay with, but you will not make friends with them.
Yes.
And that's fine.
I have also met anti-Semitic blacks.
But they are also kind of goofy, weird people in their own right.
Black anti-Semites aren't going to be like, well, we need strong leaders for the unions and we need to be down with capitalism because the only people that benefit are the bankers, which are, of course, the Jews.
Hold on.
I should get Darrell for this.
Rouse him from his 40-ounce slumber.
Go ahead, Tim.
Well, he's as far as like you say, like you say, Coach, like that there are people on that side that you could actually talk to in an intelligent way.
Well, I would say like the Palestinians themselves, like actual real Palestinians, you might be able to have like a real conversation where and I've known Palestinians as well, where, yes, we we white nationalists, we acknowledge what's going on and here's our problems with the Jews.
And they would, they could also see it that way.
Like we understand why you would have problems with the Jews too.
And, you know, there could be that moment where they're, I think that's where you could have that kind of overlapping of agreement or concerns.
But yeah, like Rolo says, like an actual leftist, like some kind of whatever.
Nationalist idiot.
I mean, no, there's no possibility.
No, you could try and form a breach with these people, but these people aren't everything else and they're like, you know, they're going to burn that too.
You know, you're going to be laying down, you're going to be spitting some fire.
You're supposed to land down some proof.
And they can't hear it.
The hands of fighting.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, they got the chance of the learn.
They just go down there and watch the TV.
They just back to the Pongo.
They take the pencils.
They take the park.
They said, you know, they take holidays and their minds.
They be clouded.
Yeah, I know what you're saying, but I think you left your microphone out like outside your tent, not necessarily at the anti-Israeli protest, but perhaps under the bridge or side of the road, wherever you're going.
Hold on.
He called in.
I had to cut him off.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was a little bit.
He left his microphone out in the rain.
I'm on no illusion that we're going to make friends with them or whatever.
Well, yeah, I think there's holding up.
There's a deliberate value in supporting them rhetorically and saying you are protesting against Israel for sure.
You can't debate that.
Israel is a problem.
You're right that they're doing wrong in Palestine.
Good luck with that.
And that weren't happening, you'd probably be decrying white supremacy.
No, they are.
That's what they are doing.
I'm giving them what they are doing.
I know you are.
You're giving a bunch of 18 to 23-year-olds who live in a world surrounded by Jewish communist lies that literally their whole life is, if it's not porn, it's hooking up with strangers, passing STDs around, taking whatever drugs they can get their hands on.
Sounds like my college experience.
Except work, working towards a degree that is going to do nothing for them.
And they think that they're the most important people in the world.
And you're expecting them to have some logic.
No, these people are actually brainwashed.
But it doesn't matter.
I don't care.
Yeah.
Necessarily.
Even that.
Here's why I care, though.
This is the real reason I care because so many stupid people on our side think that these are the people that we should be trying to reach because they said something bad about Israel.
Yes, that's what I'm trying to hammer down because maybe there might be one person that you could accidentally just shake something.
I'd go even lower than that.
But for the most part, those people, if you were to, you know, Wonder Woman comes down, you know, throw the lasso around them.
Tell me what you really think.
They would say, I hate white people and I hate that white people are killing brown people.
Yeah, the ones down there.
The one struggle regardment tent at one of these protests would probably get torched or overrun or would have no.
Yeah.
And if, and if you tried to explain to them, think about what they did to America and you explain, they'd say like, oh, you just sound like a Nazi.
You're just like, damn, they don't want to hear that.
They want who owned a slave ship.
Yeah.
Yeah, they don't want to hear that.
Yeah, they'd say white people.
And you say, no, they're Jews.
And they're like, anyone can be Jewish.
It's just a religion.
Okay.
We're talking about the Israeli government here.
Okay.
The Israeli government wasn't established.
It wasn't established.
Okay.
And then 1947.
And then they say, they've been taking all the houses in land.
And those are the right family heirs.
And this is another case.
White colonists taking over from these poor oppressed Middle Eastern non-white people.
Well, yeah, the real hot tank is that George Soros is funding and training these activists to enable the anti-Semitism law, creating the crisis to create the counter flashback, which I don't actually believe.
And the funniest thing of all is then they're talking about forgiving the student loans of these losers, which is just hilarious.
It's really the snake eating its tail.
Look, if you're having a conversation about this with people, I would just say, look, the protests are identifying at least.
They are nominally against something that is morally and manifestly wrong.
And they are comprised of a bunch of Cretans who would find 500 other things that you and I wouldn't agree on.
So at minimum, sit back and enjoy the show.
Grab your popcorn.
Watch the leftists eat each other up.
But the most noxious thing is that this has brought, in my opinion, at least, is that it has brought out the philosemitic, neoconservative, APAC-bought politician.
You know, you must, I stand with Israel.
I stand with Israel.
I stand with Israel.
Before we forget, like after the Ukrainian Israeli $95 billion bill came out, it came out that Mike Johnson was given $95,000.
And Trump told him to pass it.
Allegedly, I believe it.
I believe it.
Correct.
Correct.
It's sort of like an established rumor at this point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a believable rumor, but we do know that he did get that big payout.
So how many other people are going to be found to give it, be getting these payouts for passing the anti-Semitism bill?
Well, and there's also like Dan Crenshaw didn't vote and supposedly, you know, he's on the shit list now, which I don't believe for a second.
Like there's a lot of tactical voting going on here too.
Like, oh, yes, anyway, this is my chance to like sit back or whatever.
It's, it's, it's really disgusting.
I think a lot of these politicians know exactly how unpopular Israel is, either from the left or from actual intelligent people that understand for sure.
BTFO'd in the replies, the ratios left and right.
We mentioned that last show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I think, I think it's easy for people to just kind of sit back.
Oh, I abstain this time.
Oh, it's not the right time.
I value freedom of speech no matter how heinous it may be type of deal.
I was reading the article about certain number of these politicians like what's her name, Lauren Boebert, that have lost their APAC backing or whatever because they did not jump on this anti-Semitism.
30 Republicans who voted against it.
Boebert, Massey.
Whatever you think of those people, you got to give them a little bit of respect for. doing the right thing there.
Yeah, for Massey, I believe it's principle.
Some of them, it's tactical, I think.
Yeah, I don't give them all respect because I do think, yeah, there's no way that Daniel Dan Crenshaw has that hole in his eye because it's another hole for Jews to poke in it.
He didn't vote.
I know.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Like that guy, that guy, there aren't enough Jews in the world that he would pleasure if he could do it all.
I think his intern was like, please don't vote yes on this, Mr. Crenshaw.
I can't manage your Twitter account possibly and do all these replies.
He probably slowed out anyway.
The other thing we haven't touched on, of course, is the supposed frat boy revolution revolt fight back against all this.
And, you know, it's like you could, okay, so one of them was a Jewish fraternity.
There was an Israeli flag on the side of one of them.
I'm willing to grant, just like I'm willing to grant that some of those pro-Palestinian protesters are well-intentioned and actually know the score.
I'm willing to grant that there's a significant portion of the frat boy population that is like these leftist assholes, excuse me, for screwing up my campus, for making my life miserable.
And I hate them somewhere, whether I hate them because of their race or because of their religion or because they hate Israel.
Like there's a little bit of all of that.
I mean, when I graduated college in 2003 and the anti-Iraq war protests, which were right, 100% in hindsight, were overwhelmingly leftist.
And I kind of supported them until it came time for the war.
And then my jingoistic, like 21 or 22-year-old person came in and said, nope, no sleep till Baghdad.
Let's get it done.
The war was stupid.
And then as soon as the war drums banged, I was like, okay, I'm going to rally around the flag.
Also, as someone who was in a fraternity at the time at a expensive private university, there were a ton of Jews in my fraternities on top of a couple fags for sure.
And the vast majority of us were young, dumb, not particularly leftist, but not particularly rightist either.
A little bit of jingoism.
And just like the overriding motivation was to get drunk and have fun and graduate and get a job.
So I guess you could celebrate a couple frat boys coming out and like showing the flag or whatever and standing up against the fat, obese black woman there.
But no, I'm like, I'm not going to be like, boys, rally on the flag.
Like, as I said, assuming the best intent, they're chumps or dupes.
But the reality is they're just young and dumb and they have certain instincts that they're acting on.
And it gives conservatives something to say.
Like, when's the last time you heard a conservative say white boy summer or cheer on somebody making things?
They wouldn't do that for anti-BLM.
They would do it for something that's against Israel.
I think that there is a good chance that some of those guys are dumb and led astray because it's because if they're rallying behind the American flag, it's easy for some Jew there to be like, well, you know, Israel's your greatest ally in many ways.
It's the same flag, if you think so.
Literally, it's the same flag.
Yeah.
So I can see them doing that as just like, that's their.
childish way of thinking that they're protesting and owning the libs.
Yeah.
But yeah, I'm more forgiving of those people as far as finding common ground with them.
Don't get me wrong.
If you try to explain the JQ to them, they'll call you Nazi and do all that.
But you could much easier get to them through by, I know, like the facts here, you know, and then the logic and reason.
And then eventually you could probably get them down that road.
But the leftists, it's not going to happen because those people are actually mentally ill where the where these people, these, these frat boys, they're just dumb young people.
That's it.
It's a different thing.
Yep, absolutely.
And a lot of times Jews in those maternities are the wealthiest ones.
They're the ones who buy the kegs.
They're the ones who have the worst behavior and the most charisma, right?
Because they can get away with whatever they want to.
And if you've ever met like a privileged Jew undergrad, like they really like, it's no holds barred.
It's like unbridled Jewishness, Judaism.
I've seen it.
I didn't recognize it.
I was just, wow, these guys are a lot of fun.
And they shout penis at the lunch table and stuff like that.
Looking back on it, I binge in.
That's really fun.
Shouting penis at the lunch table.
I never had that one of the Jews in our fraternity would do that.
And I was like, oh, first, my first was that is rude and disgusting.
And then I was, and then I like succumbed to the temptress of like that.
Now, granted, I wanted to drink and have fun and womanize with the best of them.
But the drugs and like the true degeneracy ultimately derived from them and their connections.
So all those guys and the American, like I'm not, I guess my big point is, and it's not a phony like middle ground, is that I give some credit to the protesters for sure.
And I'm not willing to throw all those frat boys under the bus as an entirely Jewish, mind-f'd op.
But I'm not willing to like go to go to bat for them.
And I do still agree that, yes, you're, your natural base in America to wake people up and to recruit from is on the right is among a white frat boy who likes to drink beer and like, you know, do monkey sounds at a fat, stupid protester, as opposed to the Kafio wearing, you know, purple-haired anti-colonizer.
Have I talked about my favorite quote from Naked Gun on this show?
It's been so long, my friend.
Who knows?
Okay, good.
Good.
Well, I'll bring it up.
It's from Naked Gun two and a half, the smell of fear.
And when they're in the White House, and then H.W. Bush says, we're here for police week celebrating Lieutenant Frank Drevin, where we're congratulating him for his 1,000th drug dealer kill.
And then Frank Drevin comes in and he says, well, actually, the last two I ran over with my car, but luckily they turned out to be drug dealers.
That is exactly how I feel about these campus protesters.
I don't think it's even like broken clock.
I think they accidentally are inconveniencing our enemy.
It's for the wrong reasons and they'll never come around, but what they do will affect people that I think are smart enough to put together what's happening.
So, you know, by God's grace, they'll wake up some regular normal everyday Joe.
Why are there protests on American campuses because of Israel's behavior?
Why are there so many brown Muslim hostile to Israel students in America because of Jewish policies in America?
Why are white counter protesters and cops demonized for doing their jobs in America when it's blacks because of Jewish power and media manipulation?
They are the head of the snake, whether you like it or not.
And anytime that head is getting some arrows, figuratively or literally, it is a good outcome.
You don't have to be best friends with them.
Sometimes you have to make marriages of convenience or not even marriages.
No, you don't have to make marriages.
You don't have to make marriages.
A silence of convenience.
Moral support.
The most worthless thing in the world.
I give you moral support.
Thoughts and prayers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
You're in my thoughts and my prayers, protesters.
Good luck.
Thank you for introducing.
I mean, there's an argument that says thank you.
You push the Jews to elevate the level to actually abridging the First Amendment for their benefit.
Well, like we say, the system must choose now between legitimacy and power, and they're choosing power.
So smart people will notice that.
And judging from the outpouring on Twitter and other platforms, they would have to actually get down to Bolshevik tier levels of repression for this to stick.
It stinks.
Emperor with no clothes, grasping straws, trial balloons, seeing what they can get away with.
I mean, there's millions of furious American leftists right now who are angry at Biden, Israel, Netanyahu, the police, you know, what's new with some of that stuff.
But that coalition of the fringes in Steve Saylor's phrasing is fraying more than usual.
I'm not thinking that it's like the coming of the dissolution of the American empire, but it's just, it's another sign that it's happening and that they've too many balls in the air to manage properly.
And they're budding.
They were growing these vampires up in the attic, right?
You know, they're like feeding them the DEI, the anti-colonization stuff, the anti-white stuff.
And then when it fully blossoms into a full-grown vampire and they come out of the attic and they come and start feasting, they must do it again.
The Jewish president of George Washington University, like sending out these emails about the campus protests, and we respect their right to assembly and stuff like this, but, Why?
Because they're protesting Israel.
So lovely cognitive dissonance and narrative and all of it.
And for the audience, I don't know if you live near one.
I don't know if they're still going on.
They've shut down the big ones for now.
I would say I would certainly go check it out.
I would have if I had one closer to me.
Watch Lonesome Dove.
That's my final advice of the show.
Guys were talking about Westerns and stuff, and somebody said, Lonesome Dove was awesome.
I said, I never wanted to watch Lonesome Dove sounds gay.
Lonesome Dove sounds stupid.
It was a TV miniseries.
I started watching that the other night.
And spectacular performances by Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, young Steve Buscemi, Diane Lane, Robert.
Don't forget Danny Glover.
Not even a racist thing.
Danny Glover was, he was just like a black face in there.
There wasn't much acting out of him, honestly.
Sam, we didn't even get to the cookout and we've blown through our self-indulgent semi-analysis.
Close us out with that and then we'll get the hell out of here.
Yeah.
So we had planned a flurling fest for the spring.
And naturally, I signed up.
Our good bros in Wisconsin had organized it.
God bless them.
And our people in this area are close with them.
So, of course, we were going to attend.
So we planned to attend.
We did.
And boy, was it an absolute blast.
This was in deep rural western Wisconsin.
And we get to this house.
And this house is literally a mansion that had at least, I don't know, eight or 10 bedrooms in it.
And you know how they do these Airbnbs, like every room is just meticulously beautiful and furnished and everything.
And so we had quite a few people and let's say 45 to 50 people, a lot of children.
I'd say close to half are children.
And that's what I always say.
Any gathering that we have should always be at least half children, right?
You know, if our thing is going to survive in the future.
And a lot of families, a lot of great people there.
And everybody contributed food.
Everything was wonderfully provided, breakfast, lunch, snacks, dinner, you know, desserts, everything was beautifully done.
And I performed a musical number, musical performance of, yeah, and I even this time I thought to print some lyrics out so that everyone could sing along, which they did.
It was very wonderful.
We had a campfire.
And this place was just nestled amongst, I will call them rolling hills for us Flatlanders in urban America.
It seemed like mountains, but they were just hills, I suppose.
But we went hiking up and down hills.
And we were so remote that there was not a soul to be seen except our people.
There were fishing holes.
The kids were fishing.
We had just, let's call it two days, two and a half days of blessed time together.
We always have, if you've been to our things, there's always a core of our people that will stay up to the dawn partying and talking and hanging out.
I just cannot stay up that late myself, but it was incredible.
The food was wonderful.
People prepared whole, you know, whole platter of sandwiches that they baked in the oven came out wonderful.
They grilled food.
I guess I'm just saying all this, that if you're not involved in our movement to this level where you're hanging out with people and doing things IRL, you really should be.
I met a bunch of great new people, a bunch of young families were there.
And you can't escape being optimistic after being something like that.
Of course, Sunday was before we even set out on this thing.
I said, okay, well, we will be there through Sunday.
Where are we going to Mass?
And so I went on Latin Mass Finder.
It's a website that has everything on there.
And it would have everything from diocesan masses to Society of St. Pius X, Society of St. Pius V, Sedevacantis Masses, everything.
Everything's on there.
And so we found something in La Crosse, Wisconsin, which is about 50 minutes from where we were.
And we went to the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
I'm saying the names that maybe somebody might go and look online at the pictures.
Just absolutely incredible.
We drive up to the place and we're saying to ourselves, where is the church?
I don't, I see some buildings.
They don't look like the church.
So it's up on, I'm going to use the word mountain.
It's up on a mountain.
You can't even see it from the ground level.
So we get in this, I'll call it a glorified golf cart.
It was enclosed because it was kind of rainy and cold.
It was enclosed.
We get in there and it takes us up, which would have to be a 30 or 40 minute walk to get up to where it was.
We get up there.
You get off the cart and I mean, everything is just beautiful.
The ground is all tiled and up and where you get off the cart.
You go into the church, just absolutely beautiful.
Very high ceilings, marble.
It was like a cathedral.
Well, when they call it a shrine, I guess it has to take on a certain, you know, certain amount of grandeur.
Beautiful artwork everywhere.
It was really a treat, you know, and one of these young Catholic families also went.
We didn't go together, but they went on their own to it as well.
And it was just breathtaking, the view from where we were and the artwork in there.
And we had a beautiful day, beautiful time.
Wonderful, big guy.
Thank you for that.
I'm reinvigorated.
Yeah, like I said, well, maybe I said it during an intro that we had to scrub, but have not been to a big meetup since last summer, I think.
And I was like, I don't need to do that anymore.
I've done that.
You know, the thrill is gone.
Oh, man.
But yeah.
You come to one of our things.
I mean, you're just challenged on every level.
The conversation is great.
The camaraderie is great.
Families, wives, husbands, everybody together, everybody breaking off on their own.
The outdoor activities.
You know, my son, he got a new air rifle.
He brought that.
We were shooting garbage, shooting bottles and cans and stuff.
And brought his, he's got a compombo.
We brought that.
We were shooting.
I mean, it's just great times.
Amen.
Well, thank you, Sammy, baby.
It's good to be back with you.
Appreciate the morning uplifting stuff here at the end after we sort of geeked out a little bit.
I don't know if people value on that.
We sort of vented our spleens when it came.
That's really what it is.
You know, there's just a remarkable time we live in because all the things, if I was trying to convince somebody of these things and they would skeptically look askance at me, right?
You know, but here, here you are seeing so-called regular people can draw the conclusions from what all the things we're seeing.
And it's, it's a great time, I think.
Yeah, it's, it's, there's never been a better time to name Jewish power or be pro-white in America.
There's also arguably never been a worse political time right now.
As soon as the trouble stirs up with Israel, the Republicans rally 100% and there's just no concealed universe in which we find common cause or get what we want from the left, which leads me, you know, I said, I don't know now that I can hold my nose.
The clip circulating of Trump saying death penalty for anti-Semites was a little disingenuous because it was back from 2019 or 2018.
After Bowers and Tree of Life, they were unloading that as if it was current and he said some good things, said some bad things.
But it's net net, the narrative out of the right has been so reflexively philosometic, pro-Israel law and order, blah, blah, blah, blah, that it's enough to make you wretch.
And, you know, it only matters if you live in one of those seven or eight swing states, frankly.
And even then, does it really matter, you know, what the system wants to do?
I don't know.
But getting in touch with your people and saying strong and staying healthy, et cetera, is the most important thing you can do.
Rolito, thank you, my friend.
I actually wanted to touch on one thing real quick that was said in the first hour where Judd said, or you said to him, I can't remember.
That was a long time ago.
What a post-Trump GOP looks like.
I actually think the GOP, it is going the same way as Hollywood, where people are just tuning out.
There's still excitement for Trump because Trump does still to a lot of people feel like the underdog Maverick who's he's saying the hot truth.
He's saying what everyone else is scared to say.
And after that, you can't really shove that genie back in the bottle.
And I think they're going to like the next election because they did it before Trump where they tried, yeah, like Nikki Haley and Mike Pence and all these other milquetoast losers, even Ron DeSantis.
There was so little excitement for them.
Like Ron DeSantis was the most exciting.
And he got like, what, 15%?
Like some really low numbers.
So I just, I don't see a way where the GOP can last.
I mean, the Democrats will always be what they are because there's always going to be drug-addicted losers and porn addicts and just brown people that with their hands out that will never be filled.
But the GOP, I think, is a dying entity, especially when its only issue does seem to be Israel.
And the only people that really care about Israel are boomers.
So they're going to die off.
I think that the GOP is just there.
The writing is on the wall, which is ironic because that is a biblical or Jewish reference.
I don't want to raise Sam's hackles.
Yeah, base disillusionment with GOP delivery on conservative promises dates back decades.
I used to listen to Mark Levin because I was dissatisfied with the Republicans.
And what does he channel you back into is like fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, and pro-Israel foreign policy.
And that is not, you know, all the pushback against Ben Shapiro and normal people saying that, you know, F. Levin, when you see the shills get more replies than retweets, you know that the tide has turned.
That's a real-time bot aside metric that the proles are not buying the garbage that they're feeding anymore, more than ever.
But they're still going to keep trying to sell that because that's what they're doing.
And the new generation is here.
And Nick Fuentes really is the face of the new generation.
And it doesn't matter if he won't last.
More people are are going to be listening to him and holding on to what he has to say than your standard like Boomer, like whatever.
Sean Hannity uh, I mean Tucker's still pretty hot, but the the other ones just no, nobody care.
No one's.
Who's listening to Brett Bauer or Buyer or something?
Jesse Waters, and no one cares.
Nick Fuentes has huge reach.
They let him back on Twitter and you can say what you want about him, but he still reaches a lot of young white men and and he's saying more about Jewish power than anyone else and it's really resonating.
That's the reason why he's growing.
I hope, hope he's, not boosting Laura Loomer for her next reelection effort.
Yes, some somebody asked me and post and I was just like you know what.
I don't feel the need to stir that pot.
I don't know if he's grown up or you know, tongue in cheeks uh, but net, net.
Is he better than the alternative?
Or he's better than the alternative, assuming that it's not a deliberate, you know cul-de-sac, divert into crisis and um, it doesn't matter, because the damage has been done.
He didn't flirt around it.
He's identified Israel as a problem and identified them as the cause for many things.
So even if he tries to oh, I was just, I was all I was irony like, if he tries to do that years later, it'll be too late.
People aren't going to be like oh oh, he was joking okay, well then, I was joking too.
They're gonna say no no no, you weren't joking.
And maybe his new uh PORN network can sponsor Nick Fuentes.
Uh yeah, there's a lot of reasons to be leery and skeptical there, but I am like you know, I hated him back in the day and i'm not now, etc.
All right, let's get the hell out of here.
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Uh yeah, and yeah, we've had a lot of uh, Sammy baby, and going back and forth between electronica versus a lovely country song.
I couldn't decide before the show.
But no, i'll do it.
Uh, brace yourselves, audience.
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