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It's common sense, if not common knowledge, that if you want to navigate our modern hellscape and thrive, not just survive, you do not want to be completely isolated.
That goes for whether you live in the middle of nowhere or in a densely populated urban pit.
And while distant friends and online communities are real assets, there's only so much tangible mutual benefit to be gained from essentially digital relationships.
Ideally, All of your best, most trusted, and high-agency, true friends and family would live within at least short driving distance, or perhaps within the same zip code or the same county.
You get the idea.
This is not just for the enjoyment of cookouts, play dates, and the occasional helping hand, but to share skills, pool resources, trade bounties from your homesteads, form child care and homeschool co-ops, and ultimately provide for your common security and exert local influence, if not real power.
But the obstacles to achieving that goal anywhere are steep.
Careers still tend to be geographically sticky, even in the age of telework.
We all have our individual preferences on location, property type, and climate.
Moving is always a stressful affair, let alone to an area you might not be familiar with.
And the combination of stubbornly high real estate prices coupled with newly high interest rates make inertia a tragically tempting choice over relocation.
And finally, even your best friends will get on your nerves eventually.
So the idea of a long-term proximal cohabitation with anyone is enough to induce some hesitation.
This week, we are excited to welcome not one, but two men who have walked the walk toward forming intentional communities of our people.
And we will farm them for as much information as possible about the good, the bad, and maybe even the ugly of what goes into such a noble effort.
So, Mr. Producer, let's go.
Welcome, everyone, to Foss, the world's most inexplicably beloved show for White Fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole biofam.
Maybe it is explicable in some ways.
It is episode 168, and I am, as always, your dutiful host, Coach Fistock, back with another two hours or more of Commentary that is equal parts, enlightened, good-hearted, lowbrow, and even a little cringe.
Before we meet the birth panel, though, big thanks to Rusty, Anonymous, and Trocar and Kat.
And Trocar and Kat said, frankly, eat shit, Rolling Stone, love the content coach and the rest of the birth panel, minus Rolo, and new white life coming early December.
Pardon his French there.
I believe that was Trocar.
Cat certainly wouldn't use the word.
Apparently, Rolo Stowe did a expose on Gives and Go and all the terrible dissidents that it actually has the gumption to not kick off.
So God bless Gives and Go opposite the Rolling Stone indeed.
And congrats Kat and Trocar for going for it again.
Also, Anonymous said, thank you, Coach Sam and Rolo, for all that you do.
I am finally moving forward and acquiring my own chickens for the backyard using the information from your podcast.
Wish me luck.
Good luck, Anon.
And if we ever have added a little value or just lowly entertain your lives, please do consider supporting us by popping some loose change in the tip jar at gives andgo.com slash fullhouse or full-house.com and the support us tab.
And with that, let's get cracking.
First up, I'm not sure if that's a boomerang or an ossified bassa in his pants or if he's just excited to get back on the air with us about this great topic and his bread and butter looming next show.
Sam, welcome back.
Yeah, thanks, Coach.
That's really good.
Hey, coach.
Hey, coach.
You know, today, today is my wife and my kiss anniversary.
Oh, look at you.
Geez.
Oh, yeah.
You're like 16-year-olds.
Oh, yeah.
This is the first time we have a dad.
First time we got the first base together.
Congratulations, all the same.
Well, yeah, it was 21 years ago.
It was on a late summer evening, much like this one, or as you would call it, fall, but I would call it late summer in our parts.
And anyways, we had walked around town, walked downtown a little bit, went to a bar.
We came back and we were just sitting outside on the ground, really.
And it was a very clear night.
And there's not many constellations that you can see because of the light of the city, you know, unfortunately.
But the one you can see is Orion.
And so I pointed it out because at this time of year, at the right time, it starts to come up and you can see it.
And I pointed it out.
And so that was kind of a romantic moment.
And we had our first kiss.
And it was one of those things where kind of, you know, like they say, the ground kind of moves.
And it was definitely just like they say, you know, when it's right.
And it certainly was right.
And it just went from there.
You know, it was the right time for the right two people.
And it's kind of hard to quantify, you know, because it's, yeah, the physical attraction, that's part of it.
The good conversation and the laughs we had, that's part of it.
But there's some other X factor in there that it's just chemistry, you know, and we knew each other from years before.
And we had been in touch and talking on the phone.
But when we were going to get together in person, it was not a done deal by any means, because you probably know, or many people can attest that you might like somebody.
But then when you get in the same meat space, so to speak, you know, there may or may not be chemistry.
And it's just something that kind of happens on its own or doesn't happen.
And it certainly happened there.
And then she went on to make, she's a very arts and crafts type person.
She went on to make this little constellation of Orion, you know, kind of out of yeah, it's almost like kind of like something that would be almost like it looks like a dinner plate, but it's made out of wood and you, you know, make some kind of make some kind of picture decoration.
And so she made it, she put like little rhinestones and she made it in the shape of the Orion.
And I, through different times of my life, I've become very interested in astronomy and the stars and being able to point them out and name them and especially to know the meanings behind them, which is very interesting from a religious point of view.
But anyways, so I just wanted to mention straight to beer.
Thank you, Sam.
Yeah, it's a good reminder, too.
I remember my old man pointing out Orion's belt when he was first explaining constellations.
That's the one that, you know, everyone listening to the show, your kids should be able to find Orion's belt, those three big ones in a row right here.
Yeah.
Get that one down and then move on to the big dipper and finding the North Star.
Welcome back, Sammy, baby.
And we will have a, for the audience, too.
We're going to make a minor major announcement at the top of the second half about going forward.
And it's good news, not bad news.
All right.
It's related to the next show.
All right.
Next up, the Grim Reaper's shadow darkened his hearth this week, but his pure, undistilled grill and will to survive chased that old rascal back up the chimney.
Rolo, welcome back.
Didn't the co-founder of Rolling Stone recently get like chastised?
Yes, Rolling Stone.
John Wenner, Jan Venner, however you pronounce it.
Yeah, gay.
Yeah.
So Rolling Stone's not having a good time these days, especially since no one reads their outlets.
I know.
When Trokar sent that note, I was like, what's the deal with Rolling Stone?
What do they do?
I didn't even see the article.
It was from like two or three weeks ago.
They kind of like dabble in the vice-esque, you know, right-wing expose stuff.
And then, yeah, their gay founder basically got canceled for not highlighting any black or female genitalian artists in his masterworks study.
I thought he said something like, like black and female artists aren't the same as other artists.
I think he said something like that.
Something like that.
Yep.
Yeah, who cares?
You know, I hope he dies soon.
I love to see Rollo Left eats its own.
Yeah.
And he knew he was going to get in hot water too.
He was kind of like all his words.
It is true.
Like we could talk about literature or art or music or anything.
And then there's black literature, black art, black music, which is in like a crayon scribbles.
Yeah.
Which is of a, you know, like it could be judged on its own against other things of its own, but it doesn't, it's not like real art or real music or whatever.
Yeah.
And I gave Rolo way too much credit with his beating the Grim Reaper.
He just assumes that he had COVID because somebody he was in contact with was.
No, I don't actually.
I know.
I assume that I had the flu.
And moving forward, they're just going to call all colds and flus COVID because they're never going to let that go.
You told us you had COVID, you big drama.
Yeah, because a guy I was at the bowling alley with had it.
And he said he got it the day I had symptoms.
I used my powers of deduction.
You don't sound sick at all to me.
If you were to try to tell me that you weren't good enough to go to school, I'd say, get your ass out of bed, Rollo.
He's got his got his ire up there.
Well, hey, I did plenty of work today.
Okay.
All right.
Finally, our very patient, more patient than usual, and very special guests.
They are both working on building separate but similar intentional communities of our own people in roughly the same area, which will, of course, be the subject of at least our first hour this week.
These gentlemen came highly recommended from a trusted friend of the show who's previously shared his own homesteading expertise and tips on the show.
And I'm as eager to hear about their progress as I am to press them on the numerous challenges to such noble efforts.
So Western and Peter, welcome to Full House, gentlemen.
It's an honor.
Thank you for having us.
It's great to be here.
Thanks, Peter.
Amen.
Thanks for coming on, both of you.
We'll get the nitty-gritty out of the way here first.
So Western, we'll start with you.
What is your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, please?
Yeah, ethnicity is Norman and German.
Religion, I'm a Wotenist.
And fatherhood status, four children.
And the fact that you have four children does confirm that you are not, in fact, Greg Johnson.
There is a slight resemblance in the voice there.
I don't know if you've ever gotten that, but that's a good thing.
I'm not saying you sound gay.
You sound erudite.
That's what I meant by that.
Okay.
The audience will be like, oh, yeah, he does sound a little like Greg.
Anyway, Peter covered it.
It just came to me that he sounds a little like Greg.
Peter, welcome on, brother.
How about yourself?
Ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status.
All right.
Let's see.
I guess I'm British, Swedish, Danish, Irish, Hungarian, I think Danish, that too.
Yeah, a little bit of everything.
Yeah, and I'm Christian.
And fortunately, I have no, unfortunately, unfortunately, I have no kids.
Hopefully I'll have a bunch in the future.
Good save yourself.
Yeah, so you're in the market.
You know, any prospects or I guess maybe you just relocated and stuff like that.
So you're getting back in the pool.
Yeah, it'll happen.
It'll happen.
Good stuff.
Well, thanks, Jets, for coming on.
Big thanks to our pal who connected us.
And you guys can alternate or just grab whatever you want to.
You know, I'm not going to like call on you individually, but we'll just to get things started.
I'll start with Western and intentional communities.
What do you mean by that?
I'm sure there's different models and whatnot, but what comes to mind when you think of that and what are you working toward?
I guess to define it, the easiest place to start is where most people are.
They live in an unintentional community, right?
They're surrounded by neighbors, communities, people that they don't know.
They're usually often anonymous around them in the large metro areas.
And so what we wanted was to create an intentional community, people that are coming together and to build the community just similar to what our ancestors enjoyed for all of history, where they have shared values, shared goals, shared beliefs, and build a community.
And for us, it's a racially conscious one of white families.
And we're all working toward self-sufficiency by establishing homesteads in the Ozark Mountains.
So we all get together, we raise our children together, help each other out on the farms, we homeschool together.
And ultimately, we are trying to grow our individual and collective power within this region.
Fair enough.
And you are selective in terms of the community that you are building.
What are some of the requirements or things that you're looking for for Ozarki?
I think it's fair to say.
That's what you're calling your effort, correct?
Yeah, that's the name of the channel.
So we want to promote the idea of many people that feel like we do that are part of this cause to start intentional communities in this region.
And it's a good region for it.
It's not the only region, right?
We promote that idea wherever they find a good fit for it.
But the Ozarks are a great region for it.
And so we're happy to promote the region itself for intentional communities.
But for us, yes, we are very selective.
We require that people be married, that they have already produced children, that they have not only the will, but the means to relocate and support their family out here with the aim to homestead and become self-sufficient.
We require that people take action and have deeds toward the 14 words, not just post memes about them endlessly online, and have skill sets that would benefit our intentional community, right?
Like people that are coming out that are going to be handy and helpful in terms of what our goals are.
And then lastly, but not leastly is maintain a fitness level that makes you an asset to both our cause and our intentional community.
No fatties allowed.
So you are building essentially the boring family-oriented community.
And Peter, our bachelor, is going to be the wild swinging singles club out there in the mountains living it up.
I'm kidding.
But Peter, feel free to fill out anything that Western didn't or describe what you're doing and how it differs from what Western's doing.
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I mentioned we already have like, I should mention we already have three or four families involved in our project.
So we're not quite a singles club, although there are certainly single guys involved on like the other project.
And I think what he's doing is great.
When you're into like forming intentional communities, you got to support everyone.
So, you know, we don't like read stuff like stuff like that and think, oh, this guy's only accepting families.
That's dumb.
You know, what he's doing is great and you got to be selective.
But obviously there's demand for intentional communities for people who aren't married yet, you know, and they want to kind of get in on that.
And their plan is to get married at some point and have children.
So you need a lot of different types of communities, but you certainly need to be very selective.
Obviously, you can get so selective to the point where, ah, we only select, we only accept, for example, Odinists who are of Finnish descent and like playing chess, right?
You could get ridiculous with your selection and then you'll never have anyone join your community, but that's not going to be the problem with either of our communities because there's tons of families wanting to move to the Ozarks and there's tons of single guys looking to move to the Ozarks.
And when I got down there recently, I started checking things out, the people who are following me on social media and YouTube and stuff started messaging me.
And a lot of them are like, oh, yeah, I've already been looking into that area for a while now.
You're already down there.
That's so cool.
And like, not even like, you know, like conservative normies too, like everybody.
So a lot of people are thinking about regions like that now just to kind of get away from it all.
But yeah, I definitely agree with being very selective about forming intentional communities.
And maybe the main difference between our two communities is just the thing about the families and already having children because everything else we're probably very similar similar.
And we're also really trying to do a good job and kind of like filtering people, trying to make sure only people who are very similar to us are joining.
And maybe there's one other thing I should mention.
When I first started getting into the attentional communities and forming intentional communities many years ago, I was trying to figure it because I want to get things right.
I don't want to make the same mistakes everybody else made.
One of the most important things I kind of figured out early on is that you can go two ways with an intentional community.
It's kind of like you can go more private or more common.
And most intentional communities, people make the mistake of going too common with it.
And they kind of adopt what I call like the hippie compound style of community, where it's just like one central, one person, one person with the deep pockets buys a property and that's it.
And there's one centralized area.
There's the hippie house that everyone lives in.
Everyone lives together and they're not blood related.
They're just a bunch of friends living together.
And that always, almost always just ends in disaster.
On the other side of things, you have basically a neighborhood.
You have an intentional, like everyone has their own land.
So also neither myself nor the, you know, the Ozarkia community, none of us are doing like a hippie commune style community.
We're all respecting private land ownership.
Families, every family's got to have their own land.
And I think that's the way to go.
I think that's the best way to do it.
You obviously can have some common things.
You can have some common facilities and everyone can get together and have events, but you don't want to go really too far in the common everything, the hippie commune direction.
Absolutely.
I can attest to that after hosting several big parties of wonderful our guys, their families here over the past few years.
By the end of the long weekend, I'm usually like, don't let the door hit you on the way out, jerks.
No, kidding, mostly.
But yes, I think that's a big concern for a lot of people.
There's lots of concerns I'll get to later or challenges, whatever, that we'll get to, but we'll stick with the positives here up at the top.
And let's go back to Western.
How is it going so far?
What have you, quote unquote, achieved?
A little bit of the status update, whatever you're comfortable with.
Yeah, well, I think one of the big achievements this year was really getting to harvest, you know, our first round of after you build everything up, you get your infrastructure, you get a lot of animals going, and then you actually get to reap the rewards, the benefits of it.
And they're slow going, right, in the initial phases of setting up a homestead.
So this year we harvested, I think, roughly like 1,200 pounds of natural pork.
We produced, it was like 65 round bales of hay.
And we had a couple of calves born.
And we've got our first steer going to be set off to butcher here soon.
Some of the other highlights of it have been the amount of interest in families joining up, moving out here, and then the prospects that have come out to visit us.
And then also all the networking within the community, right?
People outside of our intentional community, but are local that we've now made close bonds with other farmers, other ranchers, and we've set up some bartering going on.
And yeah, really ingratiated ourselves to the local community.
And I think that's as important as building a strong intentional community.
And I assume that you don't hide your beliefs, but you also don't tattoo them on your forehead.
Have you had any locals say, what's going on with these newbies coming in and working together?
And they seem to be maybe they're racist or any of that so far.
Yeah, we fit in really well.
So no, other than like, if you don't name national socialism, if you don't like put that out there, but you just talk about our values, they're in agreement with almost all of it.
The locals are by default, you know, center-right, conservative, evangelical, explicitly or implicitly racist, but either way, they live out here in a place that's 98% white for a reason.
They could move somewhere where it's easier to make money.
They could move somewhere where, you know, convenience and comfort are a little easier, and they choose to live out here.
So this is not a place where we are out of water here.
And, you know, we're just normal families.
So we dress well, we look nice, we go out, we're polite to people.
But one of the things that when you said that, it made me think of is when you first move here, you know, a lot of people have the misconception you're going to move in the middle of nowhere and you're going to be anonymous.
And that is not the case.
Everyone stops you.
Who are you?
Where did you move from?
How many kids do you have?
Oh, yeah, that's nice.
What do you do for work?
Yeah.
How many acres you got?
Yeah.
Well, one of, yeah, one of the jokes around here is, yeah, how do you, how are you paying for your place?
Right.
Because the joke is like, there's not really a lot of jobs in the middle of nowhere.
And that's something we'll get into.
Right.
But people, people want to ask about you because they don't like strangers being around.
They want to know who you are and not, you know, necessarily for a bad thing, but they want to sniff you out.
And this place has a really good white blood cell count.
They have a good immune system.
And if someone comes around and they're talking about values that are contradictory to theirs, they're going to ostracize them.
So thankfully, our way of thinking, our way of living, what we're passionate about, people around here really like it.
And they're very excited about us bringing beautiful young white families out here to add to what is already here.
Right.
And not to come in as the California exiles seeking to change the local environment.
I always go out of my way to say, oh, nope, I, you know, any place can be, of course, wealthier or healthier, but I like where I live, West Virginia, just the way it is, more or less.
Yeah.
Peter, any highlights from your end so far?
And then we'll move on.
Well, Western has obviously been in the area, that area a lot longer than I have.
I was just there for a few weeks recently, but everything I saw echoes what he said.
Basically, it's a very conservative area.
I was talking to the real estate agent, telling him, you know, I told him where I was from, you know, Connecticut, and I wanted to make sure he didn't think I was liberal.
So I was like, yeah, frankly, there's too many liberals there or something like that.
And he's like, you know, if you're conservative, you're going to fit right in here.
So everyone in that area is kind of like that.
And another guy I know who moved there recently said, yeah, when you move there, basically your neighbors are all going to come over the beginning just to make sure that you're going to vote Republican.
And then that's kind of it, you know.
So it's that kind of area.
It's a great area.
There's a lot of great things about it, you know, but yeah.
Sure.
And a quick anecdote here.
A dear friend of mine was looking for property roughly in this neck of the woods, Upper Appalachia, mid-Appalachia, if you want to call it, for a long time.
Couldn't find the homestead that he wanted.
Made a little scouting trip down to vaguely your area and boom, found one like within a week and is now, you know, going to move down there.
So your area, we've said on the show a lot, PAC Northwest, Upper New England, the great wonderful strip of Appalachia.
And of course, there's other places in America.
It's not like it's just limited to those areas.
But let's talk, you know, upsell the Ozarks.
Aside, you know, you can find good conservative white people in rural areas all across the country.
But why the Ozarks in particular?
For me, there's to start, there's 90 contiguous counties with demographics that are at least 95% white, right?
And many of them are over that.
So the county I'm in is even higher than that.
It's a mountainous region, so it gives you a couple of things.
It's beautiful, a lot of hikes, a lot of nature, a lot of outdoors.
But it also means there's not a lot of large corporate farms.
So you're actually able to buy up family farms that still exist out here because of the rugged beauty.
The topology lends itself to defensive efforts.
If you were ever needing to defend the region, it does lend itself to that.
There's vast amounts of affordable, farmable land, right?
Just the cost difference.
So some of the places that you mentioned are beautiful.
And I, boy, they really are nice.
And anyone who can set up an intentional community there, that's great.
But the value per acre here is really strong.
This is also the border between where like the South meets the Midwest.
So culturally, for me and for other people of the Midwest and the South, it's a good place that if you relocated, you wouldn't feel like a fish out of water.
And I think sometimes people underestimate that.
I myself have lived in different parts of the country.
And as someone who's from the flyover states, you kind of feel like, I don't really, it's not exactly the social scene I grew up in, right?
It just feels a little bit different.
So for the people that are looking for that southernish, Midwestern-ish feel, this is really nice.
And then I guess I'll put a cap on it.
Just the laws here are pretty well suited for what we're doing.
And I think Peter can go into that pretty well, but just two main points.
The gun laws here are great.
San Your Ground State, Castle Doctrine.
And then the homeschooling, really the only requirement that you have is once a year, you let the state know that you're homeschooling and how many kids.
That's right.
So in terms of the, you know, those are the main reasons I moved here.
I guess the other part, I moved here during COVID, and this is one of the least vaccinated states, but one of the least vaccinated areas.
And I think the averages I saw during COVID were about 20 to 25%.
And those statistics skewed toward the elderly.
So the people that are my age and younger, the people who have families out here, they're almost all unvaccinated.
Good stuff.
Peter, what else about the laws or anything else that drew you to it?
Yeah, it's kind of like this sweet spot between the holy trinity of demographics, laws, and land prices.
Some of the things that Western touched upon already, but obviously you have an area with good demographics.
You have an area with very cheap land, sometimes incredibly cheap land.
And then you have an area where the laws are all, for example, the gun laws in Missouri and Arkansas.
There's open and concealed carry with no permit.
And of course, the homeschooling laws.
There's many counties that, in the rural areas, have virtually no zoning laws, except sometimes a septic system law that they often don't really enforce um, but you have to do it anyways, anyways.
So there's very few spots in the country that have all those three, three things combining in such a way.
Like Pacific Northwest is a really nice area uh, but the land prices there, as far as I know are, are pretty darn high.
You might have other places where the land places are really cheap, and I guess I should mention the weather too, because there are places, desolate places in New Mexico and Arizona where hardly anybody lives there uh, but you're going to have a serious water problem um, so it's, it's kind of like it's a sweet spot.
I'm not gonna.
There are plenty of other areas and I learned a long time ago in the in the world of intentional communities you're not gonna get very far like kind of trash talking other locations, being like this is the best spot, your spot's not good.
You know, all those places have their merits and they're all great, but for a lot of people they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna love the Ozarks just because it offered those those three things all together.
You know sure yeah, a quick, funny story.
I, after my pal raved about you know his experience down there, how beautiful it was affordable, etc.
I said to my wife, well, you know, maybe we should take our next vacation to to the Ozarks.
And she said, why the hell would I want to go to the Ozarks when I already live in West Virginia?
I said oh okay, Touche.
You know, we're sort of like cousin regions in a sense.
Um, i'm gonna put myself in the shoes of the audience and I I, I would suspect that the vast majority of our audience feel fairly stuck where they are either good stuck or bad stuck.
The number one issue is probably they feel tethered to their job.
I can't just quit my job, sell my house and move somewhere on a lark.
Um, i've never been there.
Uh, and you know from my experience, I searched for property.
This is going back to 2012, when Obama got re-elected.
That was my lightning bolt.
That told me, holy cow, this society is way more messed up than I had previously been led to believe.
So I started just looking for a bug out cabin in in the woods in West Virginia, not too far uh, you know not uh, a total ramshackle thing, but I wasn't looking for a real house, etc.
It took me six years to finally find the property that I wanted, and then circumstances eventually around Covet, led us to do the bit, sell the house, move out here, and we loved it, couldn't imagine life without it.
But for so many other people it's a very daunting prospect.
They don't know.
You guys, I suspect they're like well, what if it's creepy?
What if it's like a cult?
Um, to both of you, can you, I guess, persuade the audience that feels stuck where they are or might be leery of such an enterprise?
And it doesn't have to just be the Ozarks or Ozarkia uh, but just in general.
Uh, give them a little confidence to live boldly and make a move like this.
Yeah, I think the confidence has to go both ways right, because we're talking about, you know, giving up an anonymity right to meet people in person, like i've been anonymous in this cause for almost five years now um, so we take that very seriously on our side and I would just assume and and respect that the people that are reaching out to us us are going to feel the same way.
Oftentimes it's a lot, it's a lot of trading voice messages on Telegram, right?
Getting to know each other in an asynchronous way where you don't have to be right there sitting.
It's not like a, you know, an interrogation or something.
It's just kind of getting to know each other.
And I guess a good way to put it is it's kind of like dating.
You know, you're, you're trying to get to know each other.
You're trying to put a you know best face forward and see if it's something that that may be worth pursuing further.
And if it is, you know, for us, we like to have a couple of voice chats like we're doing right now with the other families to see just in general how it is.
And then they can get a sense of the people on the other line.
And it's usually not immediate.
Like it's usually, these are people that we've spoken to for six months to a year before they make the first trip out here.
I mean, that's pretty typical.
And so by the time we meet them in person, you do, I will say this, you do see the big relief on their face.
When like the last big event we had, we had it, the first meetup was in a big park, you know, with where there was live bands playing.
And as they, they say, well, how are we going to find you?
And I'm like, you'll see us.
You'll see us.
And then we'll stand up.
Yeah.
And they came into the bar and they just look over and you can see the relief on their face.
Like, oh my God, think.
Yeah, you had the big swastika flag flying over the cabinet.
Because they just see, you know, they just see a wholesome scene and healthy families and big smiles and lots of kids running around.
And it just puts them all at ease.
And all that tension and anxiety they had leading up to it and the drive out or the flight out, it's just immediately melted away.
And then it's like, ah, all right, let's have a good weekend.
Good stuff.
Peter, how about for people who are like, well, I don't know about these two knuckleheads, but it sounds like a good idea.
Maybe I'd want to do it myself.
It sounded like you sort of started from scratch.
You know, for somebody like, put yourself in Sam's shoes.
Sam is, you know, tied to a job.
He's lived in the same house for a long time.
Might be of interest to him down the road.
People want to start their own.
Any tips?
Because now we'll start to get into the weeds with some of the challenges.
It's daunting.
And my quick anecdote, at the time when I was shopping out here, I was talking to my existing network and saying it's beautiful out there.
It's cheap.
It was certainly a lot cheaper five, six years ago.
But just the time required and the herding cats to get people to search in the same area and have the ability to make a purchase at the same time.
I almost want to say somebody has to go and do it themselves and then sort of put up the beacon.
But maybe that's not true.
For people who might want to do it themselves, what would you advise?
That's definitely true.
Somebody needs to go and put it, you know, people have to go and put up the beacon.
And sometimes the beacon needs to be there for two or three years.
And a lot of people have to come before certain people will come.
Everyone has a level of level at which they're willing to just pick up their lives and move across the country or move to another state.
And for some people, they'll just do it in a heartbeat.
Like some of us who were there in the Ozarks a couple of weeks ago meeting up.
And some people, it's going to take, you know, a lot of guys, they want to go right away, but they have to convince their wives.
You know what I mean?
So I think a lot of that responsibility lies on if you're trying to start a project, you have to be as professional as you can.
You have to have, you know, a Telegram channel, a website, a YouTube channel.
What helped us out is there's already a couple of guys involved, including myself, to have YouTube channels and Telegram channels.
And people can kind of look on that and see and check out our content.
And they're already familiar with us.
So they're like, oh, we kind of know these guys.
So it's not like you're going in the middle of nowhere to meet some random internet strangers.
Right.
So the more you can do in terms of having an online presence and making it seem like, oh, yeah, this is actually a functioning project.
There's people here doing stuff.
Then people are going to want to come.
Then guys are going to be able to convince their wives to move the family out there.
Then it becomes a lot easier because for some guys, that's a two or three year struggle.
For other guys, it's just like, hey, let's move out here.
And the wife's just like, yeah, sure, honey, you know, but it's a thing.
You know, people got to work through that sometimes.
And it's our job to kind of make it comfortable for them, whether it's we work and in two years, now everyone wants to come out here, or maybe in six months, a lot more people want to come.
It's an ongoing thing.
Very good.
How about the search in particular?
I mean, all I did was set up, you know, the Zillow and Redfin parameters and just get that daily or weekly email with real estate.
Any other tricks of the trade in terms of finding a good homestead property?
Or is it really that simple?
I would say out here where I'm at, if you don't know, like have a local contact to hear about the land that's coming up for sale before it hits Zillow, you're going to miss out on a lot of properties.
Right.
And so for me and my family, we moved out here to an Airbnb for a few months to let to allow ourselves to be able to find that right property.
But now we have a local realtor that we work with that we trust, and she has, you know, done well serving our community so far.
And if she, when she gets any grumblings of a property that's going to sell within a certain radius, you know, she messages us immediately.
Good for you.
Yeah, I imagine for some people in this market, as they say, you almost have to bite the bullet on some places without seeing it firsthand.
Normally, I'd say that's crazy.
You got to go visit the property, walk it, see whether the house is a decrepit or in decent shape.
But I presume that some people just see a listing and make an offer without seeing it first.
Well, and the benefit of having some people out there, like Peter being where he is, me being where I am, is like when someone sends me an address and like a syllable link, I will immediately go, oh, that's a good area.
Ooh, I'd probably stay away from that.
You know, you can give them just the once over of the general area, but then maybe you get eyes on, right?
I can easily just drive over, get eyes on, meet with the realtor to have them like do a walkthrough if that's the case, right?
If they're not going to be able to, but I, I don't recommend someone to buy it that way.
As Peter mentioned earlier, there's not building codes in most of the areas outside of a city, what do you call it, city limits.
So some of these places are just built very differently.
So highly recommend, even, you know, if you do make a bid like that, get someone you can really trust on the assessment, right?
When someone's going to come out and check the place out for you.
Because there's gyms and there's not some gyms, and that's everywhere, right?
But when you have no building codes, it can get pretty dicey.
The upside of that is, as Peter is finding and using, is that you can build whatever you want, right?
Like the property that I have, I could build houses for all of my children on the same property.
I don't have to get any zoning permissions for that because 100% do that, right?
One of the benefits out here.
Sam, you have a wonderful community where you are, but it's no secret that you are not in, you know, the whitest part of the country with the best gun law.
Yeah, definitely.
Not taxes and most religious, et cetera.
You're probably one of those guys that feels a little bit stuck.
I know that you're proud and you love the area to a certain extent, where you're from.
But does this sound of interest to you or is it a little bit of a pipe dream for you in your life situation?
Well, I never say never.
I would just start with the same types of statements that they have, like, okay, so, you know, how do you feel you could leave or are you stuck there?
Well, first of all, we have a great community here.
You know, we have a very large group of our guys and gals that are just wonderful.
We just had a gigantic event for three days where we were all out camping together, four days, some of us.
And maybe I'll talk about that a little bit later with a little detail.
But like you were saying, like those fellows are saying, there's no one solution.
There's no one size fits all.
Yeah, the situation here is dicey in some ways, but there are advantages to it.
So if I was to leave to join a community, I would say, okay, well, first of all, I have a community.
So do I have to leave just for that reason?
And, you know, as far as how dangerous it is around here and all that, yeah, that's a calculation that needs to be redone every once in a while.
But there is a real strength in community.
All the things that they've said already, but I'll just say some of the same things, which are just having the sense of belonging somewhere and having somebody you can call on if you get in a pinch and having a place where you can get together and just be yourself.
You know, there was this popular TV show years ago called Cheers.
I never watched it once, but I remember the theme song and it said, cheers, where everybody knows your name.
And so when it also says, if your husband wants to be a girl, good thing there's a place where you can go.
Well, yeah.
But, you know, and that's how it is for us.
You know, we have, we have a lot of, we have a lot of get-togethers and events and things like that around here.
But as far as the homeschooling, this particular state is, you don't even have to report how many kids you're homeschooling or if you're homeschooling.
So it really varies in terms of all the different little variables, all the things.
If we were going to make a spreadsheet and say, how does one region differ from another?
Yeah, it could be really bad in some ways.
It could be really good in some other ways.
So for right now, we're making it work, you know?
Good stuff, Sam.
Rolo writes in the chat, these guys sound like cult aspiring cult leaders.
Do not trust them.
Do not move to that.
Rolo, shame.
Come on.
These guys are.
Well, that is one thing.
Yeah, sure.
At our recent event, it was about evenly split between local guys and people that came from out of state and some from quite far, actually, but especially the newer people there.
They're always a little surprised or a little, it takes a few minutes to get the idea that this is real, that there's all this like love and welcoming and fun and good atmosphere for families and men and women.
So, you know, that's what it's really about to me.
Yeah, when I first started hearing about this years ago, one of my biggest anxieties, and it was a friend who was more almost on the co-housing, you know, real close proximity.
You know, you're going to like be seeing your neighbor literally every day across the way.
And I said, oh, man, I'm just too private and I'm not social enough.
I really don't want to see our guys every single day and feel like, you know, I left a suburb and I'm not really interested in going back to it.
So I think the audience will be put at ease slightly that we're not talking about everybody getting into a compound and Waco, but a county or a zip code or easy driving distance is important.
I was talking to somebody, not connected with this, but I was just talking to somebody and explaining like the good of it or some of these same ideas that are appealing to me or I think that are important just for you to be a happy, healthy human being.
And he said, like, well, I have all that.
I live in a nice area.
You know, if I want to talk to somebody, I just talk to the next door neighbor.
If I need help with my car or I need a ride to somewhere, I have people that I can call on so that, you know, none of that's important to me, in which I say, all right, well, good for you.
It sounds like you got it all figured out.
But for most people, the way life feels in America is very fragmented.
When I grew up, I knew my family knew every other family on that entire block.
We knew who lived in every house and all the kids played together.
And that's how it was.
Now I don't know anyone that lives on my block.
And frankly, I don't want to know them either.
Yeah.
No, it's a good point.
I mean, you don't have to move to the boonies to have community and networking and a support network for sure.
It's just one day we're going to take all this back.
So if you want to live in cities or you want to live out on a farm or whatever, that'll be your own good choice.
Hell yeah, Sammy Baby.
All right, Peter, question.
Let's move on to some of the nitty-gritty here.
Jobs, jobs, jobs.
Number one, I can't just quit my job and move to the country to meet strangers and build an intentional community.
I always say you'd be surprised how much work there is out there in the country because they're always looking for good people who are reliable and you might not make them as much as you did before, but costs are going to be a lot lower.
Assuage our audience on the employment anxiety.
Yeah, so go ahead, Peter.
Wages are obviously lower in this, that part of the country than they are elsewhere.
On the other hand, it's growing in population.
I was looking at some data that showed up until around COVID times, the population and the area I was specifically in was plummeting.
It was looking real bad for the future.
And then right after that, magically, people start flowing into the area like crazy.
My friend who's lived there for seven years says last year, the public school in his town saw like 30% increase enrollment.
So more people are moving to the area.
We see a lot of construction companies are pretty active.
Don't think it's that hard to get construction work for young guys who are into that.
Obviously, you can learn to code and do online jobs.
So there's always going to be people who are doing that.
The prospects aren't really that bad.
It's not like moving to a third world country.
Like you can still make decent American wages and the cost of living is lower there.
So I don't think it's a huge issue.
A friend of ours was like testing it, but his measure of like testing the economic viability of a town was doing DoorDash there.
And so he would go to a town in the area we were in, do DoorDash for a day, go to another town, do DoorDash for a day.
He couldn't really find a decent sized town where he was not able to make enough money on DoorDash.
So he says to us, okay, it must be an okay area.
You'll be able to find work here.
You know, maybe not a whole ton of it, but you'll certainly be able to find work in the area if you're, you know, if you're able to accept slightly lower wages, you know, and if you're a marketable person.
Yep.
And for most families, let's be honest, if you've lived in your house for five or 10 years, it's probably worth a lot more than it was when you got it.
And even though interest rates are high right now, you can use the proceeds from that home sale to sort of give yourself a bit of a nest egg or a building block so where you're not totally like money anxious right off the bat.
Go ahead, Western, in terms of jobs and the reality of relocating and almost starting over.
Yeah, what we've seen is that most of our guys that are coming here are bringing enough equity that they're either dramatically lowering their mortgage, and I mean by like less than half.
Some of the guys have been able to just pay cash for a place.
Now, granted, you're talking like 200, 250,000, right?
With a house and 10, 15, 20 acres, but that's a legit homestead.
So some guys are pulling that equity out and owning their house outright, which is a huge difference from where they're moving from.
So the cost of living is so much lower that when you're bringing that equity with you, it goes so much further.
So that's part of it.
In terms of careers, I think he's nailed it.
Remote work is bigger than ever.
Some of our people do work remote and have good paying jobs even for a city.
And they live out here where it's very inexpensive.
So it goes much, much further.
The trades.
The local people doing construction, as Peter mentioned, are very busy.
They cannot find enough good work.
And even if they could from the locals, they'll work for a few weeks and then they'll take off for a while because they have enough money to pay their bills for the next three months.
I've heard the same thing here.
I never can find good, reliable workers.
It's really tough.
And then also like guys just take off for the entire hunting season and disappear into the woods.
Hundreds of times shuts down.
Yeah.
Well, we've also seen healthcare.
Yeah, go ahead.
If you're some kind of professional person, those wages usually are pretty much at parity anywhere in the country.
I remember years and years ago, and somebody was trying to attract me to go work somewhere.
And I said, yeah, okay, but what's the pay?
So, no, no, it's going to pay the same as your as what you're paying now.
This is getting paid now.
And if you're worried about internet, Starlink is expensive, but it works damn well from what I've heard for people worried about telework and having fast enough internet.
I'm just a skin flint.
So I want to pony up for it.
I'm just on the slow DSL, but it's good enough for out here.
That's a number of properties that have fiber on like rural routes in the middle of nowhere.
And we see fiber optic on the telephone poles.
It's kind of surprising.
Some of the properties we were checking out out there.
Huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's works projects that are putting in fiber all over the Ozarks.
No kidding.
All right.
You got a lego.
And I don't even have it yet.
And I use Zoom and Teams meetings all day long for video streaming for work.
So you can definitely telecommute out here.
Other jobs are healthcare, right?
Very easy to transfer healthcare out here as well.
Mechanics, huge demand for diesel mechanics, any kind of mechanics, really, but thick for diesel.
And then where we're at, we are, you know, I'll admit, we're a little bit out in the boonies where I specifically am.
But, you know, depending on how close you want to live, you could be 30 to 60 minute commute away from a larger town with more options.
Now, I'm not talking about a major city, but a larger town with more options and more of an economy.
So there are options.
And again, the finance side of it, just how much equity you're going to bring and what your mortgage, your bills are going to be so much lower.
You can make it work.
But I've experienced what you've experienced, Coach.
There are people that even if it all makes sense, even if, you know, the finances make sense, they can make the job, it's still going to be set untangible that gets them to move.
And so for me, you know, listening to Sam and the setup he's got, I'm like, that's, that's great.
The two, the two things that resonated in my mind were, what are my kids being exposed to every day that I remain in this area that I was in?
Right.
Every time they leave the house, every time they go to a park, every time they go to a public place, like what are they being exposed to that I wish that they weren't?
And then ultimately, even if, you know, I shield them from that and somehow raise them to be who I want them to be, who are they going to marry?
And maybe that's not an issue for you where you're, but it was, it was for me where I was.
And then the last point I'll make before I turn it back over is, you know, we start to realize what this system is and what it's doing to the future of our children and our posterity.
I mean, the first thought is like, I got to become independent of the system, right?
Like, I got to become resilient.
I got to becoming self-sufficient.
And so for me, how is I going to do that in a place where like five acres, you know, would run you close to a million bucks?
And how are you going to have a community of people doing this?
So I couldn't.
So I needed to get somewhere where not only could I secure land for myself to homestead, which you don't need that much to homestead.
I mean, five, 10 acres, you can produce a lot of food.
And I know you've done shows on that before, but I want to secure land for my posterity.
I want my kids to already have land that we can have a multi-generational setup out here on our property.
So I didn't just want 10, 20.
I wanted enough where all four of my kids could potentially live out here and we could be a real part of my grandkids' life.
Amen.
I think Peter mentioned spouses or girlfriends and sometimes they're very willing and sometimes they're very resistant.
And there's also the issue that your buddies, you know, they might be your buddies, but your wife might not be crazy about them and vice versa.
Your wife may have a wonderful network and you're like, I don't know about that.
Have you seen any marriage or spousal conflict or stressors due to that?
That's just a natural reality, right?
And people have different preferences in terms of their friendships.
How close are you guys, actually?
How often do you see each other?
And does everybody get together?
Is it a men's club?
Is it a wives' club?
Is it separated?
A little bit of the social aspect, please.
Yeah, I'd say the things that get us together the most are homeschooling, getting out to the outdoors to enjoy like getting out in nature and having picnics and cookouts and harvesting days, like doing the butchering, you know, doing the stuff together, working on projects together where we do potlucks and a lot of birthdays.
That is the one thing.
When everyone has four, five, six kids, there's a lot of birthdays to get together for.
Wonderful.
Yep.
But yes, you will have people that either just because of their disposition, their personality, their interest outside of this cause, right?
There's just people that are a little closer than others.
And sometimes it's proximity.
Sometimes like, well, I live two or three miles from this person.
So we're obviously going to be at each other's house a little bit more than the person that's 12 miles away, right?
So those things happen too.
So there's larger events that happen where every, you know, everybody's involved, but there's also just, we're just friends.
So sometimes these, this two families are hanging out more in a certain period of time.
But ultimately, it's, it's like any friend group, right?
And it's no different here.
We have our ups and downs.
There's people that are closer and not closer.
But I do think the wife aspect of what we are doing is huge, right?
Because men, even before they come out here, they're already ready to sign up, right?
They understand what we're doing.
They know what we're about.
They talked to us for a while.
They get it.
Women need social proof, right?
They need to show up and see other women like them, you know, same social class, so to speak, nice kids dressed well, eating similarly, you know, natural foods.
They need to see all of that before they can commit.
They need to see the beauty of this place, the parks that we have, the national parks, the state parks, the rivers.
They need to see all of that to envision raising their children here.
They're not going to get that just like chatting online, you know, following a channel, reading memes.
It has to be in person for them.
So we know that 100%.
The wife is usually going to be a big factor in whether someone ends up coming out here or not.
And so that's part of why we really put forward the family aspect, that that's what we're doing out here.
It's not a men's club.
If it was, it'd be a lot easier to organize.
I'll admit that.
But this is really about who are our kids going to marry?
Who are our kids going to be raised around?
Not just other families that are racist, conservative that live out here, but other kids being raised with the exact same values, being raised around other men that talk the same way that their daddy does, right?
That's very powerful.
And so the social media is.
One of the most important things, bar none, absolutely.
Yep.
Peter, anything else there?
That's all I would say on the topic.
I mean, he already has a community going.
We just started, so I don't really have anything to say on the family topic.
We'll have to wait and see.
Fair enough.
Gentlemen, any politics or local activism yet trying to, you know, it's a sensitive thing, especially when you're relatively new to an area, get involved, but you don't want to be overly pushy or too urgent with it.
Is that aspirational at this point, or have you dabbled in anything like that yet?
I'd say it's still mostly aspirational.
We keep our finger on the pulse of what's going on.
We go to the different meetings.
There's city council, there's county quorum, there's the school board meetings, those sort of things.
But a lot of these elections out here in the middle of nowhere are decided by 75 to 100 votes.
You know, so when you're, when you're bringing a number of families and all of those families have four, five, six kids, you know, within a generation, you can have some real power out here if you're all voting as a block.
And there, and there are, like, you can't actually make a difference in these local small town elections.
The sheriff has a huge influence on what happens in the county, right?
The judge.
So those are things.
Yeah, the judge it.
Like, so you want to know and you can ask around about those people and they've lived here their whole lives.
So they have a reputation.
The locals are all too happy to tell you everything about that they've done since they were in middle school.
And so you can get a better idea.
And, you know, when you, when you do have nice families that all get out and you're very active in those things, they want to engage you.
It's not this anonymous thing.
Living in small towns, you start showing up to stuff like that.
They're going to come over and talk to you.
Like, hey, who are you guys?
Like, glad to have you here.
Like, this is great.
Like, please come give us your ideas.
Can we call you if we have some ideas we want to talk through?
Right.
And bounce it off before we announce some stuff publicly.
So you can get involved.
And even though I think, you know, at this point, we can't sway an election one way or the other, I can see a time where that is going to happen.
The demographics of this county and the counties around us skew very old.
And so that means, as Peter said or mentioned earlier, is like there was a lot of declining population over the decade leading up to COVID.
But since COVID, it's been a boom.
And that boom to the population has been the opposite of a brain drain.
It's been some of the best and brightest recognizing the patterns and the trends, just like you did, Coach, back in the day.
And they're going, okay, I got to get out of the Mississippi Delta.
I got to get out of Texas.
I got to get out of Louisiana.
And the Ozarks is the place they always vacation, right?
So for them, this is the spot where they went to trout fish.
You know, they went to camp.
They went to hunt.
And they've always had fond memories of it.
And they come up here to do that.
So we're getting the opposite of a brain drain here.
And I think that's affecting the local politics and how many people are interested because they want to make sure it stays this way and it doesn't end up like the places they just left.
Yep.
There is a beautiful run-down town, almost like a small city near me that I occasionally frequent.
And it's, you know, it's just the total faded glory, you know, Rust Belt, Appalachia, Coal Town stuff.
And every time I see it, I think, wow, man, it would be so awesome if our people could come in here and reinvigorate.
Sure, it would be rough at first.
We're, of course, familiar with the semi-true, but mostly slanderous rural assumptions that everybody's on meth or is, you know, inbred or dumb or whatnot.
Of course, there's elements of that to any part of America.
But whether you choose the Ozarks or the middle of nowhere Maine woods or the Pacific Northwest, or, you know, I'm not overlooking the South either.
Good Lord, Pedreg Martin was our last guest, you know, glorifying southern nationalism and how much there is to offer everywhere from, you know, the Carolinas, even down into the deep south.
There's opportunities in decline.
It's not just decline.
And I think one of the interesting things that you guys are doing is that, you know, people feel like they have to already be vetted and know people.
It's tough enough if you already have a network and people to get them all moving in the same direction.
But if you are, you know, up until this point, an unnetworked or unvetted person listening to this show, I think what both Western and Peter are saying is here, you know, we'll put your whatever contact you prefer in the show notes.
We're here.
We're doing this.
You can talk to us.
If you don't like us or trust us, you know, by all means, do it yourself or go somewhere else.
But we're doing this and it's great.
And I can, of course, vouch for, we were talking before the show.
I've lived in big cities.
I've lived in suburbs.
I've lived in exurbs and now I've lived in the country.
And I cannot imagine going back to a place where, you know, you're basically in those little Levitt towns, planned communities where everybody's, you know, can see inside each other's windows, et cetera, and yet nobody knows each other at the same time.
It's a glorious way to live.
Don't let the naysayers scare you off.
Another concern I did want to raise, though, too, is that the border is wide open right now.
Record unfettered immigration, not just from the Mexicans of yesteryear, but Haitians, Chinese.
The Russians are fine by me if any Russians are sneaking across the border.
Yeah, the civ is it's just a civ right now.
Have you guys seen third worlders appearing in your next of the woods?
Because I've met on the show before, there's a big industrial chicken plant not too far down the state highway from me.
And what do you know?
That's where you see the diversity.
Is it staying white there?
And is that a concern?
Of course, the invasion is a concern, but things are looking okay in that area so far.
Peter, what did you see in the area that you were scouting?
And then I'll speak to where I'm at.
Well, I was in the area for maybe just under three weeks.
Maybe I saw like three people that whole time that looked like they were immigrants.
It was a very, very, very small number.
Oh, you went to heaven, Peter.
You weren't in the Ozarks.
Pretty much.
I mean, yeah, so where I'm at, within about an hour to hour and a half, depending on which direction you drive, you're probably not going to see a non-white person unless you go to Walmart.
The only reason you'd say that you'd see them at Walmart, it's the only place that will employ them around here.
Right.
And so the locals are not friendly to non-whites moving here and trying to get jobs here and trying to set up businesses here.
So I said Walmart's the only place that's going to hire them.
Now, that said, you are right.
If you have a Tyson chicken processing plant and you look up a map of those, that's where you're going to have all the stuff that you're talking about.
So Batesville is one that's kind of on the it's it's where the Ozarks are starting to end.
There's a big Tyson processing plant there.
They have about four or five percent Hispanic population there, which it's still like 93, 94% white in that town.
But I'm telling you, the difference of the feeling of that town, even though the demographics are still better than where most people live, it feels very different.
It feels very different.
Is that Batesville, Mississippi you're talking about?
Batesville, Arkansas.
Batesville, Arkansas.
All right.
Yeah.
It's it's you know hour 45-ish hour two close to two hours from where I'm at, but that's that's that where the motel is you got me for a second there.
No doubt they have a Batesville motel there.
They got to yeah, but probably clean it up.
I go I go because I don't go to Walmart that often and I work from home and I'm on the homestead a lot.
Like I go months without seeing a non-white.
And I got to say, even though most people living in the city listening to this can like they know inherently that that's good.
It's really hard to put yourself in the mindset of it's been three months since you've seen a non-white.
You walk into a restaurant.
There's probably 15, 20 tables and there's only white people at those tables.
There's only white waiters.
Oh, yeah.
There's only a white hostess.
There's only a white bartender.
It's very, it's very hard to wrap your mind around that.
And you get spoiled so quickly too, right?
It just becomes the way of life.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
When you first see it, it's total, like wonderful culture shock.
Oh my God, this places like this still exist.
And then it just becomes, you know, your daily routine, what you get used to.
Yeah.
I remember years ago traveling to, well, when I used to go to the Stormfront conference.
And so I stayed in a hotel down there.
And like the people cleaning the rooms were white.
It was crazy, you know, but that's how it is in those areas.
Like white people are just doing all the jobs.
It's wonderful.
Well, running children.
No longer like, you know, bums me out.
Running internet now, just going to talk to all the friendly old ladies that work at these places.
Yeah.
I know the experience going to a grocery store and people are smiling and they say how well-behaved your kids are.
Like they go out of their way to chat.
It's not at all annoying.
I thought maybe it would be annoying that it would be too intrusive or whatever.
That I like just having my N on grocery shopping experience.
No, it's nice.
It's human.
Yeah.
Well, and you, when you live in a diverse area, you develop like this two-tiered way of dealing with your world and you become very accustomed to it.
It's just like we were saying at the top of the show.
Yeah, there's black literature, but that's not literature, you know?
And it just reminds me, I remember when I was little, I was at my grandparents' house and we were watching the Donnie and Marie show and they had some on there, you know, and then they turned, they said, well, you know, she's kind of pretty for a, you know, Sam, we were doing so well.
That's all right.
Sam wanted, bro.
No, it's okay.
I'm not sure.
A little flavor.
It's a little flavor.
I didn't want to get our guests in trouble.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
Just avow.
We could talk about this for hours and I would love to, but we're over an hour already.
You guys had mentioned that at least some of your people were looking at or pursuing a joint purchase.
Great way to lose friends is go in on an investment together, pull money.
What's the deal?
It's dangerous business, but what do they call it?
Economies of scale.
You can really make more happen when you're doing things jointly.
What's going on there?
How's it going?
Did it work?
I don't know.
Yeah, so what we're doing, I'll kind of explain the structure we're using and why it's actually not such a terrible idea.
Is we're basically going to be forming an LLC to buy a large piece of land.
And all the people who are, you know, basically aiming to be landowners are going to be a member or a shareholder in the LLC.
And then the LLC's bylaws are basically going to be saying, okay, this is your homestead.
This is your homestead.
So it's a way to have people own land together without actually subdividing it, which is kind of nice because subdividing a land is quite an expensive process.
You can survey it informally with a GPS and get pretty good results without paying a survey or $10,000.
There's a number of other benefits.
Obviously, you can have share transfer restrictions.
The idea of starting a community is you want to have control of who joins your community.
So without going into a whole bunch of details, basically there's some kind of fail-safes.
I mean, yeah, you mentioned if you're going in on an investment with a bunch of friends, it could all go wrong.
The worst thing that happens, if you own an LLC that owns land, and your friends all disagree about everything in a few years and you just want to dissolve the LLC, well, guess what?
If a business dissolves, the business owners get to decide what happens to the assets.
So you can simply put the land, subdivide it in and put it into the name of the landowner.
So we have a lot of things written into the LLC bylaws that kind of plan for those types of circumstances.
The idea is to have everything, I mean, everything written now, every possible eventuality that you could think of, because I've seen informal group land buys where everyone just goes in on the title together.
You have nine, 10 names and a property title, and that's called Tenancy Uncommon.
There's a lot more things that can go wrong with that.
You have a lot less protection than you do with an LLC.
People have certain rights when they're actually on the title.
They can sue you to split up the land and do a bunch of other stuff.
And Tenancy Uncommon is a good option that some people do for group land buys, but I think what we're doing is much better.
We're doing other things as well.
We're forming a PMA, a private membership association in addition to that that's going to serve as kind of like the organization for our area that will help kind of sort of funnel people into these group land buys.
So I've done a lot, yeah, basically we've been doing lots and lots of research and figuring it all out.
And right now we're just at the point where we're about to buy a property and it's going to work out.
I think it's going to work out pretty great.
And it's been working out great so far.
We have an awesome group of people.
And so yeah, we find a big lot.
Like for example, right now, somebody's putting in $10,000 and getting five acres of land in this sort of LLC on property.
It's a great deal for a lot of young guys who don't have a whole lot of savings.
And Peter, I think on your channel, you put up the template for people to see, right?
If they wanted to copy it.
Yeah.
And that's not the final product.
But yeah, I'm putting that up because, yeah, I mean, I want anyone to be able to do what I'm doing, but of course I want them to do it right.
So I hope anyone who's interested and wants to kind of go in this direction in their region, they can contact me and find out exactly what we're doing and kind of work together to get it to work and figure out what they need to do because there's a lot that goes into it.
But if you do it right, it can be a really, really great, you know, product with the end, which basically you're creating a neighborhood.
That's what you want to create.
Not a hippie commune, but a neighborhood.
Amen, brother.
Good work.
I'll definitely put your respective Telegram channels in the show notes.
But what do you want to plug here in terms of channels, emails?
If people like what they hear and heard, how would they get in touch with you?
So for me, the channel is Ozarkia.
So it's at O-Z-A-R-K-I-A.
That's the channel.
And on the channel, we have a post that's pinned that is, if you want to get a hold of us, here's the requirements.
And you can reach out to us at Ozarkia underscore admin.
At Ozarkia underscore admin.
If you want to reach out to us and start chatting, ask questions and just see if this might be a good fit for you.
Go ahead and reach out.
Sounds good, Peter.
Well, I have a Telegram channel.
I guess it's Peter Siri official, Peter C-S-E-R-E.
By the way, I'm not anonymous online at all.
And then my YouTube channel is just my same thing, Peter Siri.
And that's why I occasionally post videos describing the group land buy process or talking about what we're about to be doing in the Ozarks.
Those are the best two places to kind of catch up on what's going on there.
Although we are going to make official channels for our project soon.
We haven't yet.
So if you follow my channels, I'm going to post when we do the official like our Ozarks Return to the Land project Telegram channel.
You'll see those announced on there.
Great stuff.
Hats off, gentlemen.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you for your service for putting your money and your families where your mouths are.
And I'm going to get greedy here just for a little more human aspect before we go to the break.
Your favorite childhood memory.
Whoever wants to go first.
Don't think too hard.
First thing that comes to mind.
They're stalling.
Go ahead, Peter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I guess my best childhood memory was actually just my first childhood memory, which was way earlier than most people have their first memory.
I was like, I must have been one year and 11 months old.
And I remember going, seeing my little brother when he was born at the hospital.
Just a few little fleeting glimpses of that.
Sure.
That was it.
Good stuff.
Go ahead, Western.
Yeah, I can remember getting a mountain bike, probably, you know, six, seven years old.
But back then, I lived so far away from all of my friends that that bike meant I could go ride my bike over to my friend's house that were several miles away.
We could go to the pool.
We could go to Sonic and see all the kids hanging out there.
Maybe some girls were hanging out there.
But just getting that bike for one Christmas back when I was six or seven was a huge deal for me.
Wonderful.
All right, gentlemen, thank you very much for your time.
You're welcome to stay on in the second half.
I won't even put you on the spot.
If you're back, you're back.
If not, Godspeed.
Stay in touch.
Peter Cazira official on Telegram, Ozarkia on Telegram.
I will put those contacts in the show notes or else it's my ass.
And to take us out this week, I was at a local event within the past month or so.
Lovely festival, wonderful demographics, good downhome people.
And there was a little DJ playing some tunes.
I had never heard this song before.
It was one of those ones that instantly struck, not necessarily relevant to this conversation, but it's kind of loosely in the spirit.
And it's Highwayman by the Highwaymen, which, of course, was Johnny Cash, Chris Christopherson, Waylon Jennings, and Willie Nelson.
Willie is my least favorite one.
And one of the favorite things, or what, you know, I played the song probably a hundred times since I heard it that day.
And I asked kids, which one of these singers is your favorite?
So play the song with your kids and see if they like old Wayland or Johnny Cash at the end best.
Go for it, guys.
You won't regret it.
Do it yourselves or join an existing one.
Thank you, Western.
Thank you, Peter, and enjoy the Highwayman.
We'll be right back.
I was a highway man.
Along the coach roads I did ride.
With sword and pistol by my side.
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade.
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade.
The masters hung me in the spring of 25, but I am still alive.
I was a sailor.
I was born upon the tide.
With the sea I did a fight.
I sailed a schooner around the horn of Mexico.
I went along the world and made some blow.
And when the yards broke up, they said that I got killed.
But I'm living still, I was a damn building, across the river deep and wide, where steel and water didn't collide.
A place called Boulder Home, the wild part of I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below.
They buried me in that great tune that knows no sound.
But I'm still around.
I'll always be around and around and around and around.
I'll fly a starship across the universe divine.
And when I reach the other side, I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can.
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again.
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain.
But I will remain.
I'll be back again and welcome back to Full House episode 168, the fateful episode before the long promised SS show.
No, not the Schutzstoffel, the sex show that I've been bullied into doing.
We are probably going to make that our next one.
More on that shortly.
But Western is back with us.
Huge thanks to him and to Peter, who went to bed like a good boy.
Go figure.
The family-oriented intentional community man is staying up late with us while the bachelor's going to sleep.
Maybe you could read into that if you're choosing between one or the other.
I'm joking.
Hope you enjoyed the highwaymen there.
And we got a lot to get to here in the second half.
So let's just do it.
And I will start with the announcement that I teased up in the second half.
I'm going to keep it a little bit deliberately vague here just because some of the details are still being is that Chris Cantwell is developing, is in the process of developing his own sort of network of content creators.
If you're not familiar with Chris's work since he has gotten out of the clink, you certainly should reacquaint yourself with it because he's been doing excellent content both on radical agenda in the keeping of his previous show as well as with surreal politics, which is more, it's a little bit cleaner and safer and it's more focused on the stuff that's going on out there.
But regardless, we are longtime pals with Chris.
He's been on the show multiple times, including when he was under the gun in Charlottesville with the Signs v. Kessler lawsuit.
And long story short is that Chris has invited us to join his network.
Looks like as the first content creators to join, there will be more.
And what that means for you is not necessarily anything.
We will still be doing this on our website, on our Telegram channel, on our same RSS feed.
We will just additionally be on the Cantwell Network, or you can call it the Surreal Politique Network, whatever it ends up being named.
And the other interesting thing is that because Chris offers a paywall option, a lot of his content is out there and is free.
And then for $10 a month, you get access to everything that he creates.
You can get access to that through us.
It'll be fullhouse.radicalagenda or something like that.
But most importantly, you will be joining a network of a lot more shows to come.
And plus, I do think that we are going to put the sex show.
Now, Chris said, what is this sex show?
Are you guys getting into the pornography business?
Please tell me I did not make a horrible decision here.
I said, no, absolutely.
Frankly, I don't want to do it myself at all because I'm a prude and it makes me nervous.
I like doing it.
I just don't like talking about it in public.
But we actually might pay that one so that we can be slightly more candid than just Google out every Tom, Dick, and Jane listening on the internet.
Go ahead, Sam.
It was better than, I guess this sounds somewhat better than my suggestion, which was to have an OnlyFans account for fall.
Well, that comes late.
No, that does not come later.
It would be maybe a wholesome OnlyFans.
Is that such a thing?
Well, hey, you make whatever you want.
Sex stuff, you just put Joe Bottle and Paywall and OnlyFans.
Subvert it's subverted.
Make it.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Well, we're going to do the sex show probably next.
169.
It's got to be the sex show.
Yeah.
That workout.
Yeah.
We want to make sure all the back office or back network stuff is figured out first before we do it in paywall and make sure people can do it.
And it's not about the money, honestly.
People say that all the time.
It really isn't.
It's about one, frankly, getting more listeners through Chris's audience.
It's about helping Chris with what he's doing.
And it just, you know, it's like, all right, so we just keep doing what we're doing.
Only we are, you know, a little bit amplified and with an added bonus sounds good to me.
So stay tuned for that.
We'll put up the end when it's ready.
Chris is doing all the work as usual.
He's like a one-man wrecking crew over there, wherever he is up in New Hampshire still.
And we'll keep you posted.
And the reason that the show has been a little bit delayed this time is because we had, I was so excited to do this show.
An American listener of ours who recently visited Russia for, I don't know, it was maybe a week, but he traveled around a lot.
And I said, you got to come on and just talk about your impressions, your experiences, because he was pretty open-minded about the whole debate.
You know, Russia is the flip side of the same shekel as Zog versus Russia is the great savior of all of Western kind, our last hope.
And he sent me videos and pictures.
And it was general.
I won't give any spoilers, but he's actually that we live in such a time that simply visiting, you know, it's not like he snuck across the border, he got a visa, et cetera.
He was nervous about possible consequences about reporting out just simple tourism travel in Russia.
So I'm going to keep trying to gently coax him, give him the confidence to do.
That's the reason we were all teered up to do it.
And he kind of backed out last second.
We'll still try to get that on.
Moving on, this is sort of audience correspondence plus new white life.
But Sam, I want to give it to you first before I get long-winded with these wonderful inbox we got this week.
Yeah.
Well, I wanted to talk about our recent event a little bit.
I've made a bunch of notes.
They're not in any good order, so I hope it comes out okay.
But I think it goes with what we were saying about community building because that is really our aim too, even though it's maybe a little different idea than what Western there is dealing with, but same spirit nonetheless.
But we had our seventh annual camp out and it was extraordinarily well attended.
And the thing is really a labor of love to the people that set it up and did all the work.
I tried to help a little bit as much as I can, but a lot of people really put their heart and soul into this thing.
And we had something like between 65 and 75 people.
It's hard to count because it gets complicated.
You had people who stayed for all three and a half days.
You had people that came one day.
You had people that just popped in for a little while and left.
And you got a lot of kids running around.
But it was a tremendously uplifting event.
And like I alluded to before, people come there and they're kind of surprised at how great it is, you know?
And there's people that met them and after about 30 minutes, it's like, hey, this is our new family, our new best friends.
And, you know, the next day it's like, oh, yeah, there's my best friend.
We've been best friends for like 24 hours.
So it was tremendous in a lot of ways.
And the ladies did a tremendous job with decorating it because it was also our Oktoberfest event.
And so on one of the days, everybody dressed up in the beautiful leaderhosen and the Derndahls.
And we had all the decorations up.
And it was just nice.
You could watch it happening in real time as people would show up.
Maybe there would be a couple show up.
Maybe the guy is a little more into this thing than the wife is.
But once she saw all the ladies crowded around the table working on some arts and crafts, or they saw them doing the decorations, then they knew that they could just fit right in, you know, and it was wonderful that way.
The food.
I saw the photo, you know, Midwest Network put out the photo with the faces blurred out for sure.
I was shocked by how many people actually did the bit with the later hosen.
I was like, all right.
Yeah, I would say it was maybe a third or a half of the people dressed up and a lot of people, I mean, you got to invest in the thing, you know, you got to go and buy all the stuff and all that.
But it was beautiful.
We had some hot days, some really hot days there.
But get this, my wife won the beer hoisting contest where you have to hold the stein, the full beer up for as long as possible.
This is like a glass leader.
So you can imagine it's heavy, right?
And there was a men's and a women's division.
So and you will probably not be surprised, but our brother Nate from Wellington Arms, he won the men's division.
Good for Nate.
Congratulations, which was funny.
And then in the women's division, because we had to do this thing in several rounds, because we only had so many beer glasses and a lot of people wanted to participate.
So the first round of the women's division, Nate's wife won.
So that was great.
And then so we had a second round for the women.
And then my wife won that.
And then his wife was just like too pooped to go on a face-off, I guess.
So they announced my wife as the winner.
Well, you know why Nate and his wife were so good at that is because you've talked about tantric sex on the show before, Sam.
Yes.
The way they do it, they stand at attention facing each other with their arms in that angle and they just stand there and stare at each other with their arms raised for as long as possible.
So they touch the practice.
Anyway, I could do it.
It was funny that it so happened.
But yeah, we had several pregnant women there.
So I'll just kind of throw this in with the new white life.
We had a couple of the pregnant ladies that I knew were pregnant, but then a third one, at least three, the third one I learned was pregnant.
And so congratulations to her.
And we had a number of these couples that we've had in recent years with their very young children that came for part of the day and then left.
So, you know, just as each group of people walk up, like I said, it's like that song, Cheers, the Thing Song.
You know, everybody welcomes you.
It's just a wonderful feeling.
Let's see, there's a couple other notes.
You know, we had some E-celebs.
They probably hate that I would call them that.
But, you know, the guys, our good friend Gordon Cole was there.
You're an E-Celeb.
Well, okay, that was four of us, I guess.
And he was lovely and funny as hell and great.
He brought a bunch of guys with him.
He was great.
And kind of a funny story.
And one of the, he likes to sleep outside in his sleeping bag, apparently.
And so he was sleeping outside.
And some of the ladies, and some of these people here, even though it's a very family event, they like to party till the break of dawn.
Let's put it that way.
So he was sleeping in his sleeping bag and they crept on up on him and they were making animal noises to creep him out, I suppose.
And then he woke up and he rolled over and he crushed his glasses.
So he was kind of mad.
He said, you know, I came to this nice event expecting a nice event, not a bunch of drunk retards.
But then apparently he was able to get them fixed.
He took them somewhere.
He was able to get them fixed for free and he said they fit better than ever.
So he wasn't mad anymore.
And Johnny Monoxide was there with his family.
He was excellent as always.
And, you know, he has a son and his son and my son, they went hiking because everyone has a cell phone now, right?
So you can go and kind of GPS your way off the beaten, off the beaten path.
They were looking for snakes.
That was great.
And of course, Mark Whitewolf from White Power Hour was there.
I would say check out that episode because he was doing little interviews with everybody.
And also Gordon, he recorded interviews with people.
So it's just kind of it's basically people just saying how great this is.
I'm having such a great time.
But, you know, worth hearing anyways.
On Sunday morning, a bunch of us all got up early because I let people know, hey, I'm going to the traditional Latin Mass.
I knew a few people might be interested and I put it out there.
And actually several carloads of people all went out to that.
And it was early.
And, you know, like I mentioned to you, these people party at the break of dawn, but somehow they were able to all get up and get in the car.
It was about a 30-minute ride.
We got there by 8 a.m.
And that was a lot of fun too.
And I even saw some new white love budding.
Yeah, we were all sitting at the picnic table and talking.
And then we kind of all, there's this pavilion down into kind of a little valley.
And we said, can we go there?
Yeah, this whole area is for us to enjoy.
So everyone got up and said, all right, let's all go down there.
So I went to the bathroom, grabbed a beer, took a few minutes.
And so I start going down.
You got to walk through this path kind of through some high prairie.
And I get down there and I see there's this one dear friend of ours.
And there was a single lady.
And then I see them down there, some smooching going on.
And there's no one else there.
So I got down there.
I turned right around.
I said, well, hey, I don't want to get in the way of that.
The opposite of the full house mission stage.
Yes.
Back.
So I just, you know, and so there was some love, lovey-dubby stuff going on there.
And then finally, there was, now we had, because we had such a big group, we had this entire area of it, I'll call it, to ourselves.
But in a kind of adjacent area across the way, there were these ravers there.
And so some of us that stay up late and party walked over there to see what was going on.
Sure.
And it was kind of.
I would have said, screw your party, Sam.
I'm going to hamp the Ravens.
And I guess it was kind of degenerate.
And people were kind of a little bit mocking it the next day and everything.
And they were talking about, and I had even seen one of the pictures.
Apparently they had this female mannequin set up to be a beer bong.
So like you pour the beer in the head and then you got to put your mouth kind of, you know, between the legs, let's put it that way.
And drank the beer bong.
So we were kind of laughing about that and saying that, you know, how crazy these people were.
And then one of our guys says, well, I did it.
So we said, you know, here we're mocking and you're doing it with them.
That was fun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no.
But we did have several catered meals, which was excellent.
And like I said, just meeting wonderful people.
I won't just say their names because there's no reason to just keep saying who was there.
But we met wonderful people that, you know, you just get the feeling these people be friends for life.
And it was just nice to see everybody.
Every so often, you'd see a group of people kind of gathering to go off on a hike.
The grounds has wonderful hiking paths paved.
Or if you want to go off-road and go on unpaved ways, unpaved paths, or just make your own path, you can do all that.
So like I said, this is the sense of community, like what these guys were talking about on the first part of the show.
You know, there's a sense of belonging.
And this is, I think, a thing that a lot of people don't have in America a sense of at all is that sense of belonging that you belong somewhere, that somebody cares about you.
And, you know, like.
I'm not following materialistic relationships, of course.
You know, that's like football and deracinated pool party.
Exactly.
That's one of the things, you know, that people always lament like the art of conversation is dead.
Not with our people.
You know, I can't imagine the more empty possible thing than that somebody would have like a ball game on while we were here.
You know, like if some, if somebody put a TV and had a ball game playing, like people, people wouldn't even notice it.
You know, there's just so many great conversations going on.
And our friend Mike, who got the kidney transplant, we dragged him out there.
I'm still trying to get him to come on the show, but he has had a long and tough recovery.
You should have dragged him over to the female beer bomb device.
And so we dragged him there.
And, you know, his family situation is not real great and everything.
And he's, you know, in discomfort and everything like that.
But towards the end of the event, we had this thing they call a bloat.
You know what a bloat is?
And so we were.
Yeah, we were all circled up, you know, and it was, it was just the most absolutely heartwarming thing.
Everybody just holding on to each other and saying how much it meant to be there.
And when people would say something, then 10 people would jump in and echo the same statement.
And, you know, just spontaneous cheering would break out.
And it was very, very moving.
And the last thing I'll mention is, well, we had all kind of games too.
We had like Tug of War and Badminton and all kinds of things.
But the last thing I'll mention is I played my own personal set.
I brought my guitar and I played my own personal set, a lot of sing-alongs.
Some of them you would like, coach, like Country Roads by John Denver and the Manor Bun song.
Everybody lustily sang that.
And then When the boat comes in by screwdriver, you might know that song.
The sing-along chorus is nigger, nigger, out, out.
You know, that's a good song.
But anyways, you know, this set that I played, where in the world could you hear a set of acoustic music that included a black metal song and a John Denver song in the same set?
There you go.
No, Sam.
Nowhere.
Nowhere, that's where.
Awesome, Sammy, baby.
Thank you so much.
And, you know, screw, screw Western and Ozarkia.
You don't need to move all the way down there.
Just get if the upper Midwest is more your speed.
Hey, we could do that.
We could do a cross.
You know, they can come to our thing.
We'll come to their thing.
National competition.
I'll try to get there.
And I wanted to be there so bad this year, Sam.
It just was not going to work out due to the timing and the distance and all the rest of it.
But thank you for the wonderful readout of what sounds like a lovely event.
And invite those Ozark groups up next time.
Show them how they do it in the big city.
Yeah.
The thing is, and we are, it's nestled right in the city, but you wouldn't even know it.
And a lot of people have even commented that way.
Like, wow, I drove through so much urban area and you wouldn't even know once you're in the grounds that you're in any, close to any kind of urban anything.
But that's just how it is.
It's like a county run thing.
And they have done a beautiful job because it's not just like a park where people can pitch a tent.
It's been like curated with the prairies of the Midwest, you know, with the type of plants and it's made to look a certain way.
So it's, you know, it's, it's very well done.
Try to get there next year, fam, if you're hearing this and you're within reasonable stretches.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Yeah.
You got to be somebody.
You got to, you know, somebody's got to know you or you got to be vetted.
But definitely it's, you know, just like what Western was talking about in the first half.
It's the same feeling I'm talking about here.
And like we were saying, people just had such a feeling of being high.
And I pointed out, I said, this should be like normal.
This is the baseline.
This shouldn't be like something unusual.
This should be how you are living and relating with your fellow man all the time.
Amen, Sam.
Totally in keeping with the spirit of the show this week.
Thank you, big guy.
And sort of in keeping with that, you know, from the Ozarks to the upper Midwest to now to Scandinavia, we've been getting a lot of consistent, wonderful correspondence from Sweden and Little Bit and some of the other Nordic countries for sure.
But this week we got two.
I've got to read them.
They're groups have it out right here.
I've never written before as I haven't had anything to write about, but I've been listening to your show for years now.
And I want to say that I was with you from the start.
Anyways, I'm a young man from Sweden and a member of the Nordic resistance movement.
God bless the ARM.
And I believe that it's Andreas, you know, who probably brought a lot of those listeners our way, both from coming on our show.
I joined his show.
Anyway, a year ago, I had a well-paying job and a girlfriend two hours from where I lived.
Last October, both of us got doxxed as she was a member of the movement, and we were in some hot water because of it.
But we were steadfast, proud, and focused.
And this did not deter us from the struggle.
After the docks, I also joined the movement.
Go figure.
All right.
So this guy joined in the wake of his lady.
Go figure.
You know, it's usually the other way around, but regardless, Godspeed.
It was a really turbulent time and it put strain on us financially and socially.
But today it's way better than ever.
Almost a year later, we're married to each other and await our first child.
We don't know the gender yet, but it feels like a daughter.
We'll see.
Everybody always has their instincts and it's not always that way.
Anyway, I've never felt as good as I do in this moment.
And I'm sure that even through future hardships, we will fight love and struggle to the end.
A lot of guys fear the docks.
And to some, it feels like a black wall, something you can't see past and that will ruin your life.
But it's merely the start of the tunnel and how you respond to it will impact how long it will be.
I want to give major thanks to you guys.
You've been instrumental in my awakening.
And without you, I'm sure I wouldn't be half the man that I am today.
And he wrote, Hail Victory and Hell Seeger, which I'm guessing is Hail Victory in Swedish.
I don't think he's a Bob Seeger and the Silver Bullet Band fan, but that's for Max.
Thank you, Max.
And God bless all of our listeners up there.
I am, of course, more Swedish than I was led to believe, thanks to the wonders of DNA testing, which no, you shouldn't do.
But anyway, it was nice to hear.
God bless Max.
Really appreciate that feedback.
And we got another one from Sweden.
Here we go.
Hi, Coach and the Gang.
Yes, that is a good name for a band.
This is Mr. D. Not going to do a D's nuts joke here.
This is Mr. D from Sweden's biggest our thing podcast, The White Pill, which is Vita Pilret in Swedish.
Hope I pronounced that reasonably well.
You might remember me as the guy who tried to problematize the single mom question in an email to you a while back.
Well, as I wrote then, I married a single mom of one four years ago.
And one week ago, we welcomed our third blonde, blue-eyed child together.
I would, of course, not recommend anyone wasting their youth to find a single mom when you're over 40 like I did.
But hey, at least I finally got my stuff together and managed to build a family.
Now, let's hope that we manage to raise our kids right so that they give us grandkids before we're too old to be of help to them.
Absolutely, Mr. D. Sadly, our parents' generation didn't give us the values, the tools, or the resources to get what we wanted in life or even what we wanted.
We will not make the same mistakes.
Keep up the good work, guys, Mr. D. Thank you, Mr. D.
And check out the White Pill podcast.
Email us in the link on that, buddy.
I'll respond to him and ask for it.
I've been bad on that, but I love getting the international mail even more than I do from our lowly American burger listeners here in the Western Hemisphere.
Sam's laughing.
Do you like international mail that tastes suspiciously floral?
Does anthrax taste floral or something?
Oh, was that a gay joke, Rolo?
That was an alcohol joke from someone.
Oh, yes.
Aqua V. Yes.
My Rolo knows the night that I polished off the Aqua V after a show that our pal, our pal from Norway.
Oh, yeah, it was a bad movie.
I wouldn't get real drunk on that.
That's something that you sip and you enjoy, but you do not pound that down.
Definitely not.
No, no.
Bad decision.
Good conversation with Rolo, though, from what I remember of it.
I want to totally rake one of our audience members over the coals here.
He did us really dirty.
Tony, Tony, shame on you.
Tony wrote in.
He's like, hey, guys, I want to send you some Monero, but I can't figure out how to send it to your wallet.
So I hadn't opened up my Monero for the show account in a long time.
And it's like I had to change the node.
I don't know if anybody's familiar with Monero, but if you change the node, you have to basically re-sync with the entire blockchain of Monero.
So it took me like two days of this thing running in the background.
I finally get it live again.
And I'm like, hey, Tony, you know, thanks for writing in.
I figured it out.
Here you go.
$20 or something.
Well, no, no, no.
And then he's like, I can't get my wallet to work now.
Sorry.
Like, what did I just get trolled?
You know, was this whatever?
We do take cash.
Yeah.
Tony, you just have other options.
No, I'm not sure.
Send to the people box some, you know, green bags in an envelope.
I didn't give him a hard time.
I wouldn't have even mentioned it, but he said it in a really nice, brief note here.
And he said, Thank you for sitting through the sink.
That was the bit, the Monero sink, and for the work you do makes a huge difference.
Dad of one, hoping for more.
My daughter might not have been born without the birth panel's inspiration.
It certainly would have been later.
And who knows what could have happened in the interim?
All the best to you, the guys, and your families, even Rolo, Tony, Tony.
Didn't get any Monero out of him, but hearing that we inspired him to get going in the family building, I guess that'll compensate.
And I always like a good Rolo ripping from some of them.
It's becoming a meme, Rolo, like every other message.
He's squinting.
We're disturbing this Magic the Gathering game there.
And finally, finally, finally, one last one.
I do want to, you know, Masculine's Hanging was here.
I don't want him just sitting there listening to us regale ourselves with our wonderful correspondence.
But if you recall, we got that email from a listener that we discussed last show in the second half about being way down in the dumps after his wife left him.
And our pal has stayed in touch and he went out on a date with not just a lady, but a pretty lady the other day.
I got pictures.
Go get her, Tiger.
Go get her.
And he made it to first base like a gentleman.
And she was a lady.
Yeah.
So it's going to be 10 times as good.
Don't you doubt.
There it is.
And I, you know, I don't want to give away his trade secrets or whatever, but he basically reached out to an old friend, maybe love interest on Facebook.
The mad lad still has a Facebook.
You know, you know, whatever.
Go lurk your old crushes from high school or college or whatever.
And, you know, maybe you too could get to first base to help getting over a breakup or a rough situation.
I don't know if that's replicable, but Godspeed, brother.
Thank you for your time.
Go get her in touch.
Yeah, that's right.
Absolutely.
Western, want to go back.
Happy.
Very well spoken.
And that's not necessarily important, but it's important to what you're doing.
But let's, you know, second half.
What's the worst experience?
You know, you moved across the country.
You put your ass on the line.
You incur risk by meeting up with people who may or may not move to your area.
Toughest lesson or worst experience so far from basically being a pioneer in building this intentional community.
Oh, man.
I've got something.
Maybe the after show I could share some more of them.
But yeah, whatever you're comfortable with.
The polite way I could say some of it is easy come, easy go.
Right.
The people that don't have much attachment that can drop, you know, as soon as they heard my first pod and get out here within a month, probably not going to be the people that stick around either.
Right.
And I think what I've learned is, you know, I've got a reputation now where Ozarkia does that, you know, we're pretty picky.
Well, that's for a reason.
Like we've, we've been out here for two years.
We've, we've met a good number of folks.
And we've also seen that like, you know, it's kind of like dating.
People are putting their makeup on and their best face forward the first couple of dates, but you get to month, you know, three, four, five, six, maybe it's a little different.
So that's, that's why we put so much energy into like the process to decide who it is that we want to actually join us.
And so we'll grow slower because of that.
And that's totally fine with us.
Almost a feature, not a bug.
Absolutely.
It's it's it's way smarter.
Mentioned before the show.
One of my many lessons from, you know, years of doing this is, uh, sometimes you know, the whole white charity, altruism thing sneaks in and you want to say yes, even if might not be a great match, just because you don't want to be a jerk or you want to lend a helping hand.
And then, once you welcome someone inside the tent and this goes not just for intentional communities but for all of our things vet, you know, activist clubs, etc.
Um, it's a lot easier to say no up front than it is to remove someone who's either not fitting in well or maybe, you know, at worst, becoming a problem.
Uh so yeah, that makes total sense and just vaguely.
I know someone who was declined by Ozarkia and there were, there was no hard feelings, it was not like a bad thing, it was just like no, I totally understand.
They have their expectations, standards etc.
And uh, i'm gonna do my own thing and god godspeed to them.
I was really impressed.
You know however that went.
You know no details.
Uh, that yeah great, great guy like that.
Nothing, nothing bad to say about that guy.
Really, really nice.
I met him.
I didn't meet his family, but good guy yeah yep uh Rollo, you have not weighed in here and I don't want to let you skate, as always uh, but you're a cynical, discerning character.
Do you think this is?
Uh pie in the sky?
You know, try hard.
Uh, long term, not that impactful.
Seriously uh, what's your reaction to everything?
You've heard the show.
Well uh, I could make a joke, but I won't.
So uh now, because you asked me.
Seriously, I think right now, the not just the United States, but the world is collapsing, like if the United States collapses, the whole world does.
So, building this kind of long-term parallel society uh, they're not gonna be able to stop you because they have too many of their own messes to clean up.
So I think this is the time to do this.
Absolutely yeah it.
You know it's a slow collapse.
That is absolutely obvious.
Whether it turns into a hard collapse, we don't know.
It probably will eventually.
Uh and yeah, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
It's worth doing, regardless of what happens in the future.
Uh, we know which way the winds are blowing.
One of our few advantages uh, another thing I wanted to ask you, western is uh, the risk of a bad actor or an infiltrator.
It strikes me, from on the surface, being like, well okay, the worst case scenario is that you got somebody that you know buys a property and moves near you, who you know it turns out you don't like or you know maybe isn't what they advertise, and you can just sort of exclude them from everything going forward.
Is that a concern?
Have you experienced anything like that?
Uh, how does that factor into your plans?
It absolutely is a concern.
I think that's another reason why we only do families right.
It's easier to send someone infiltrate when it's single or even a couple, but we require people to have kids and it's uh, it's a little different for people to infiltrate With their entire family.
That said, that's not foolproof, right?
So we also run background checks.
Before we invite someone to be part of our thing, we do run background checks, both criminal background check and also the National Registry for Sex Offenders because we make sure we're not around our kids.
And that's just something if they're not comfortable with it, that's fine.
You know, no hard feelings.
But that just for the safety of everyone that's already here.
And I guess Peter mentioned earlier, like him and one of the other guys, their face is out there.
Their name is out there.
They're very public with that.
I'm like, I'm not, right?
I'm anonymous and I maintain OpSEC.
That's important to me.
And it's important to people that come out here with me because I'm not going to be loosey-goosey with OpSec.
They know that because it's my own livelihood on the line as well.
And so the people that we've allowed in, so to speak, they have as much to risk as I do.
Right.
And so there's a little bit of that.
We have had a family go their own way.
And that's fine.
You're going to have attrition in anything.
But I think both sides, neither one of us felt like this is a potential security, you know, breach here, like that someone's going to go, you know, put some names out there and that sort of thing.
We, we've never had that sort of breach internally.
Now, that said, we've had some bad actors we've met along the way in the cause that have kind of threatened that.
But no one, no one from Ozarkias.
And just to be clear, that's more on me because I'm the guy running the show.
So OPSEC is of huge importance to me.
I'm not doxxed, plan on staying that way.
And I don't want to draw a bunch of attention to the other families that have sacrificed so much to get out here.
Understood.
And I hadn't thought about asking this, but I probably should just out of due diligence.
Are there two Ozarkias?
I'm not looking for Dirty Laundry, Billy Roper, et cetera.
But just for the audience's clarification, you're doing your thing, but is there another effort that's also called Ozarkia?
So for the best of your knowledge.
Yeah, there's only one channel and one project called Ozarkia.
From what I understand, and I could be off, Billy Roper claims to have coined the term Ozarkia for the region.
Maybe he did.
His project is named the Shieldwall Network.
Okay.
So I think because of that, there may be some willful conflation there once the term for our project has gotten some steam and gotten some attention.
But that's okay.
Because ultimately, it's getting attention to the region.
And that's what I want.
Like if someone hears me on a podcast or watches, you know, follows us on our channel, they're going to reach out to us.
Right.
And if they're interested in what that other gentleman is putting out there and his network, then they should reach out to him.
And to be honest, I don't think we have a lot of overlap.
So that's fine.
I'll be clear.
I did not coin the term Ozarkia.
It's a term for the region.
I don't know who came up with the term for the region, but it is what I named my project.
Good stuff.
Thanks for the clarification.
Yep.
Pivot slightly to homesteading and stuff.
We had a really cool development.
I don't think I've talked about this before, but we do have ponds.
Oh, I mentioned the ponds.
You can hear the frogs and the toads in the background some shows when I'm down on the gazebo recording.
But we had always caught and released basically bass and bluegill.
A buddy had fried up a couple of bluegill here that he said tasted good.
But we never wanted to eat them because they're like, you know, it's pond fish.
It's not going to taste good.
The one that my wife filleted, she said, there were worms in the guts and it was disgusting.
So she had filleted it.
And I thought that by her saying that, she was like, the meat is bad.
So I tossed the fillets over the deck and she was like, no, the fillets were fine.
It was just the guts that were worming.
I was like, all right, well, I screwed that one up.
Anyway, long story short, we finally did the bit.
And our buddy Water, who is a fishing master, caught some monster bass here that we put in the freezer.
We should have just, you know, just caught them and done it fresh, but whatever.
We weren't ready to have a fish fry there.
But they were delicious and they were big, beautiful bass fillets out of this, you know, not big sort of algae-infested pond here.
So we added fish meat calories to our homestead thing on top of the chickens and the ducks and the eggs this year, which has been great.
But Western, on your homestead personally, what are you running and what are you looking to add in the years to come?
How much time do you got?
Yeah, highlights, please.
Yeah.
So our mutual friend and I view things similarly that we started with the hardest.
So we started with cattle.
So started with beef cattle and a dairy cow.
And so we've been running that.
We recently added a bull for our beef cattle out there a couple weeks ago.
And then from there, we went to hogs.
And so we've got a boar and two sows, and they are raising 10 piglets right now.
They're about four and a half, five months old.
Next year, we'll run two litters of that.
So we'll probably produce around 20 hogs at a hanging weight of 225 pounds.
All natural, all organic, no antibiotics, no injections.
They've never met a veterinarian.
And then we went chickens.
So we both have layers and meat birds.
So we run about, we hatch out to about 35, 40, and then we call, you know, butcher and harvest down to about 16, 17, 18 for the wintertime.
And then this year, we've added, beyond the bull, we added some guineas, hatched out some guinea.
What's a bull?
Sorry?
I'm not familiar with that word.
A bull.
Yeah, bull.
Oh, a bull.
Bull.
That's just your accent.
Yeah.
Do you say bull bullshit or bullshit?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, so we hatched out some guinea, some guinea fowls, and we're raising them because the ticks, right?
So they eat ticks and flea all day.
And we don't put out feed for them.
They kind of scavenge on their own.
They have lived in our hog pens.
So we have pasture hogs that graze.
So they've got about a half acre and they like hanging out with them.
And it's kind of a symbiotic relationship out there.
So that's what we've added.
And then barn cats and livestock guard dogs.
Did you this ground or was this most of this all new to you?
I grew up just being poor on five acres.
So we raised some animals just to have food, but hadn't done it right in my adult life.
So since I left my family farm when I was 18, hadn't done it then.
So a little rusty.
I remember commitment of it, you know, getting up early, getting outside when it's freezing temperatures and, you know, making sure everyone has food and water and is warm through the wintertime.
I remember that stuff.
But I mean, so it's not rocket science.
And all these old ranchers out here, they're happy to chew your ear to tell you more and more about what you should and shouldn't do.
And all of them got their own set of advice.
So for sure.
Yeah.
And we've got our mutual friend as well that's a permaculture expert that I definitely lean on when I need it.
That's right.
Yeah.
He's awesome.
We got to get him back on the show too.
Although, yeah, we're drifting into fall here.
The foliage is changing.
The crickets and the cicadas are a little quieter this time of year.
It is September 21st now.
Fall starts on September 23rd this year, which is very strange.
I know that the equinox and the solstices, they're usually like 20, 21, or 22.
It's the 23rd this year.
I don't know if the planet is shifting or whatnot.
But yeah, The thing that really hit me is we took the family to the beach for a brief, brief trip recently, sort of that sort of September deal thing when everything's cheaper, but it's still warm.
We dodged a hurricane, etc.
But you're really, I mean, even with chickens and ducks, we had to rope in local help to look after them while we were gone for four days.
You're not leaving your homestead too often, if at all.
Is that fair?
Well, that's the part of having an intentional community, right?
There you go.
There's that.
And then there's also, you could find ways to make sure animals have food and water for a couple of days.
So maybe we take weekend trips up to Branson to do water parks and stuff like that for the kids, have a three-day weekend or something.
We don't really need that much help around the farm in that case.
But yeah, we took a similarly, we went to Florida last year, you know, had a beach vacation around the same time that you're talking about.
And we're planning a snowboarding trip with a couple of different friends and family and all meeting up.
So it's just a matter of making sure you're coordinating it well in advance.
So in case you need someone to stop by and water or feed the animals.
And I hate asking for favors from people.
I'll just stay home.
You guys go to the beach.
I'll look after the chickens, right?
Rather than like being like, would you mind stopping by?
It'll just put them in.
I mean, they're so easy too.
It's the other thing for our listener who's just getting started and was inspired by us.
I mean, at this point, we own the doors in the morning.
They have different compartments.
They've sort of segmented themselves into tribes.
A lot of times the hens are trying to stay away from our chicken or our roosters.
But you just open the doors in the morning, put the little food out.
We're blessed to have a stream on our property.
We don't have to worry about water with them.
And then they put themselves in at night.
So it's literally just open the doors in the morning, close the doors at night, and just make sure they have enough food.
Super easy.
And the eggs are starting to back up now, which is awesome too, talking about surplus and all the stuff you can do with your neighbors and your intentional community.
You know, co-conspirators.
No, not conspirators, co-partners.
Is there anything that we missed, big guy, you think we should hit on?
Highlights, low lights, or do you think we covered most of it?
Yeah, we covered a lot.
The climate people usually ask me, we are in the growing zone 7A.
So our last freeze is around the middle of April.
And the first freeze is around the middle of November.
So we get a nine-month growing season.
It's pretty warm during the summer, as you'd expect, pretty humid during the summer, but we get a lot of rain.
So that's one of the great things.
Lots of natural springs, you know, not lots of water.
Things grow really well out here because of that.
We don't have a lack of water around.
And yeah, I just, I just, we talked about it before the show is just, it's kind of like having kids.
There's, there's never the right time to make that sort of move, right?
But then when you make it, you look back and you go, I wouldn't change this for the world.
I'd never move.
You couldn't pay me enough to move.
And now maybe Chicago, Sam and his guys, I mean, it sounded pretty appealing.
I got to be honest.
Yeah.
You might have converted me, but to be honest, though, it really is one of those satisfying things when you're having a meal with a bunch of other families that view the world like you do and are raising your kids like you are.
And you're having a meal that you all produced.
That's right.
That's, ah, man, that's some good stuff.
Like, there's no meme that encapsulates that feeling and the free flow of discussion, right?
Just the white kids playing around with each other on the trampoline and the play set.
Like for me.
I'm thinking of like, you know, Pepe families and seersuckers.
You know, I don't know.
A very positive, wholesome meme, if it would be, if it could be distilled into one, but I don't mean to make light of it.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Well, and I guess if you, if you go back, you know, you're, you're looking for like, you know, cracks and things and the bad stuff is like some people, you know, have this meme view of homesteading.
Like they just think of the nice, sunny, warm days when you're outside doing that stuff.
They don't think about like the torrential storm or the ice storms that come through and your animals, all their water's frozen.
So you got to carry buckets.
Farmers carry five gallon buckets of water across a steep Ozark hill that's covered in ice, right?
To get out to them.
And so it's a lot of hard work.
And so when you have those harvesting days, the butchering days and the celebrations and the feasts that come from that, that's really that.
It's a sense of satisfaction because you put in a lot of hard work and it's very akin in my mind to being a parent.
There's a lot of similarities there.
Sure.
And you're reconnecting with really the experience of our ancestors for thousands upon thousands of years for whom this was all just natural and not background noise.
It was just the way of the world.
And we've been so disconnected from it that to reconnect with it.
Now, I did the opposite way.
I've just been very incremental, start small, all right, the little fruit trees.
And we started with the guinea fowls.
And then that was kind of a disaster, but not to discourage anyone from getting guinea fowls because they are wonderful for the ticks and the fleas.
But what's that, Rolo?
You loved Charles.
Charles was Charles.
He was our last surviving guinea fowl through the winter.
All the other ones got picked off by predators, but Charles refused to die.
The whole family hated him because he'd come up to the windows and peck for bird seed.
I got so tired of buying guinea food that I was like, you can just eat bird feed, Charles, even though you're my friend.
And then eventually I saw the last I saw Charles was like a, you know, just a little what looked like a chicken foot in my dog's mouth.
The dumbest animal on our farms are the guinea.
It's sometimes hard to watch them.
But you mentioned just like in Europe.
You mentioned fruit trees.
We did plant a pretty, you know, small, but about, I think, 10 fruit trees.
And we had two on the property we got here.
So we've got a total of 12.
There'll be a year or two before they put out fruit, but either way, we've got that going as well.
Heck yeah.
Let's see.
Hey, it's 1235 here.
We went long in the first half.
I have other stuff in my stack, but I feel like we'd be sort of glommined on here.
So I'm good if Western Sam and Rolo are, but don't let me silence the talent.
You guys got anything else before we land this puppy?
Well, no, except I was going to talk about the closing song.
Oh, of course, Sam.
I didn't forget.
It's all yours.
Let me see here, the fishing.
And of course, you know, some of this stuff I give away on Telegram.
But the other day, of course, I did get choked up on the show talking about my little buddy get on the school bus for his first day, actually going to real school.
And he's been pretty good getting up most mornings.
We worried about it.
But the other day, it was hilarious.
I went to gently wake him up.
I always try to be, you know, hey, it's time to get up.
It's time for school.
And he just bolted up in bed.
He said, no, Dad, it's Saturday.
There's no school today.
And then the other went right back.
I said, no.
For maybe a split second, I was like, do I have this wrong?
Am I blurry-eyed this early in the morning?
But he was trying.
No, it's Saturday.
Leave me alone.
I'm going back to bed.
No, sorry.
Nice try, FBI.
It's a school break.
But I just had to share that the five-year-old, you know, sticking his toes into the waters of gaslighting, which is a term I never knew until my thing.
Anyway, but all right.
Western, thank you very much.
It's good to see you on screen for the first time ever.
And thank you for all your efforts.
Stay in touch.
Godspeed.
Good luck.
Grow slowly.
All the rest.
Even if we don't take over, take control of the whole thing, we're still doing good work regardless.
It was a great honor to be on the show.
Been a fan for a long time.
I've always enjoyed it.
Sam, you've been a good inspiration to people to have more and more kids.
You know, always putting in perspective and fellow romantic, if you will.
Look forward to meeting you.
This was great, coach.
Yeah.
Totally.
Been a long time coming.
Very glad to be on and appreciate it.
You guys were great hosts.
And Rolo, very much appreciate it.
Great to meet you as well.
First time for everything.
Rolo, gave it a thumbs up, my man.
Rolo, last thoughts.
Thank you for everything.
You're going to have to do all the work for being on Cantwell's new syndication.
Just else.
I'll do it.
I'll do what I can.
I don't know.
Some of it's a little bit technical.
I might need a little help from my buddy.
But anyway, I'm glad you made it through your fake COVID scare.
And yeah.
Me too.
Hey, the good relationship advice that Prussian Blue gave you.
I don't know if you want to talk about it, but you know, I got a message the other day that said, is your behavior trying to intentionally push me away?
And I just said, Hey, I'm just busy these days and I don't have a lot of time for socializing.
And her response was, Good to know.
So I think it did work.
Yeah, Prussian Blue basically told Rolo, no, you just send the signal that she's not a priority, assembly, I think was the TLDR, which that doesn't jive very well with me, although it's not like she's innocent saint.
I'd prefer a more direct, you know, either you're all on the bus or you're off the bus.
But I think when people are that insane, and like there are, there are things that I did not talk about that maybe I'll tell you off air.
But I, because of those things, I said, you know what?
This Prussian blue guy, I think he's on to something.
Making some sense.
Yeah.
Well, there's different approaches for different women, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was the case.
In this situation, Rolo was not.
Yeah, it was a fraught relationship, I guess.
Anyway, shout out to Prussian Blue.
He's always leaving voicemails I don't listen to.
Just kidding.
I listen.
Most of them.
Most of them.
It's very disappointing here that we're going to be.
You kicked them down to me to scream them.
They were for you.
You know, I have to be like your messenger boy now, you know, forwarding voicemails are bad enough.
Voice messages, please forward to Rolo.
Yes, sir.
Yes, Passa.
I am but a humble servant of my people.
Anyway, all right, fam.
Thank you so much.
Don't worry, Sam.
I didn't forget that you got the closing track, significant closing track this week.
We started on September 20th.
It's now September 21st.
It was a gorgeous night.
The moon is in total moonman phase.
You can look up there.
It's the perfect shape for moonman.
And this is our last show of summer 2023.
Technically, by Sam's definition, of course, to me, dead, dead for weeks.
Regardless, follow us.
You know where to find us.
Telegram, Gab.
They'll all be there in the show notes.
Fullhouse show at protonmail.com.
Absolutely.
Drop us a line if you'd like.
And then givesendgo.com slash fullhouse.
Or if you want to help us and Cantwell with his new thing, we'll put that out soon.
And stay tuned for that and the sex show.
So, Sam, you are in the DJ booth.
Rolo's October music selection reign of terror begins next show.
What are we listening to and why?
Yeah, Rolo's got him all teed up for next month.
It's all yours, big guy.
Well, we're coming up on the 30-year remembrance of Ian Stewart Donaldson's death.
Ian Stewart, as we know him, he was the genius behind Screwdriver as well as several other bands.
Even though he died 30 years ago, he remains an inspiration.
If you don't know who he is, you should try to learn a little bit about him.
He was kind, generous, selfless, talented.
He's written literally hundreds of songs.
He did change the course of history in a sense, even though it was music.
It lit a fire for a generation and for generations to come.
A brave man who stood down the enemy many times, faced the enemy, fought the enemy many times, and his music lives on.
There was many wonderful tributes made to him at the time and since.
And, you know, in years to come, you'll probably hear from me and, you know, probably try to claim a track on the same time period.
But he died on September 23rd, going into the 24th, which was the last day of summer.
And one particular song I remember in which he was eulogized, he said, 23rd of September, 1993 was the last day of summer forever for me.
You know, and that certainly, I remember the day when it happened, it was before the internet and all that.
And a comrade had called me to tell me that.
I didn't believe it.
You know, I really couldn't believe it at the time.
But anyways, this song is called Farewell Ian Stewart.
And it was originally performed and written by a guy.
I won't say his name.
There's no reason to keep saying names.
But from the band No Remorse.
And the song was recently re-recorded by this Swedish gal, Hilde.
You played a song some shows ago.
She put out a wonderful little four-song EP that were renditions of some different Skinhead songs.
But this one she did was the last song on there.
And I think it was a very touching, wonderful rendition that really stuck with me.
She's Swedish, so maybe she might mispronounce a word or two in there.
That doesn't matter to me.
If anything, it makes it better.
So this is Hild with Farewell Ian Stewart.
And I think Sam showed a little bit of emotion there, which is beautiful always and welcome.
We love you, Sam.
Enjoy, and we'll talk to you next week.
It's yours, Sam.
See ya.
See ya.
An inspiration to us all.
I know for sure a million men would have needed to your call To live by your example and take that long, hard road.
A matched in dedication And a heart that you know gold.
Last time that we shook our hands I saw the fire in your eyes.
You could never know right there and then it would be your last goodbye, With heart and mouth and tears and eyes.
You're a victory, I'll write to remember Ian Stewart and to carry on the fight.
Farewell to my country.
Farewell to our friends.
You did your best to show about the rest.
You were a wife and, to the end, Farewell to your steward I met with so high.
You will live forever Because heroes Heroes never die From day to two.
We look to you to live the moon and to build a sea.
Your white power song could never be wrong.
You were the best man I ever seen Through all the years, the love and the fears and the prints you made on the way.
The times in the sale when they gave you help from the cause never took you stray, Get police and the race and the traitors to play.
You stood up and took them the world, From the defenses and digs to the rounds and gigs, so proud that you fagged.
We will carry on with the hope in your songs.
To turn back now would be such a sin And we are ready to toy for the blood and the soil.
Ian Stewart.
You did your best, shown about the rest.
You were a fighter till the end.
Farewell to our Stewart and Madame Foreign.
You will live forever because heroes, Heroes never die.
Farewell to our country.
Farewell to our friends.
You did your best, shrunk out the rest.
You were a welcome till the end.
Farewell to our Stewart.
I met you forever because heroes Heroes never die.
Farewell to our country and farewell to our friends.
Farewell to our country.
I welcome to the end.
Farewell to our country, and farewell to our friend.
Farewell to a country, a welcome to the end.
Farewell to a country, and farewell to our friend.
Farewell to a comprehensive, a welcome to the end.