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For many years now, one man has stood alone amidst the clouds atop the highest mountain, looking down upon the savagery and violence and drugs and decay and destruction and death wrought upon our society by its most coddled class and had the courage and conviction to shout down from that mountain with a devilish grin on his face.
It's the top of the show.
So maybe we'll get to the full word later.
But this week, our special guest returns to the show that he helped launch almost four years ago.
And we'll see if he has yet accepted that Black Lives Matter and learned to love Nick Brother.
Mr Producer, Hit It.
Welcome everyone
to full house.
The world's safest show for white fathers, aspiring ones and the whole bio fam.
It is episode 155, and I am, as always, your racially non-judgmental host, Coach Finstock, going to put that to the test this week, just here to take our listeners on a cross-cultural tour of respect and mutual understanding.
Before we meet the birth panel, though, big thanks to our pals, Ernst Blofeld, Sun Tzu Enjoyer, Knickerbocker, and Siggis for their kind support of the show this week.
And Sigis wanted to remind the audience about our recently deceased pal, Andrew Schwamm, and that support for his family is still needed.
Andrew was working as a lineman when a local sheriff's deputy apparently drove over a line that he was working on.
It threw him into the air, and he died almost instantly on impact.
And he leaves behind a wife, son, and daughter.
So if you still have some charity left in the tank, perhaps after getting an income tax refund this time of year, please do check out the link in the show notes to donate and get that family over the hump.
And rest in peace to our good friend, Andrew Schwamm.
And with that, we are moving on to the birth panel.
First up, to date, you may have found him to be our most hardcore panelist on racial issues.
That's right.
But our special guest this week makes him look like one of the Kardashian girls when it comes to the black question.
Sam, I am sorry.
It may be true.
Well, yeah, I guess I got my work cut out for me here.
Let's see what happens.
Yeah.
Well, it's, you know, Lent is winding down here.
It's Maundy Thursday when we're recording.
And maybe this show will come out on Good Friday or Holy Saturday.
But Easter's coming up and Easter is something I really look forward to.
You know, I suppose any holidays can really have the good potential of family, friends, and celebration.
But, you know, something about Easter that is sort of easier.
You know, at Christmas time, you got those people that you feel obligated.
You got to buy some gifts for.
You know, not that I don't mind buying gifts and giving gifts.
I like to, in fact, but, you know, sometimes there's just those people.
It's like, all right, we got to get a gift for that person and that person.
And there's just something about Easter that's about preparing the meal, enjoying the day, get some fresh cut flowers, or get yourself some Easter lilies and maybe you have some good sunlight.
You know, we had we had this recently.
We had some very cold weather, but a couple of nice days too.
Just give you something to start to look forward to some nicer days ahead, we hope.
Absolutely, Sam.
Yeah, I mean, personally, I always remembered going to see, you know, the big side, my mom's side of the family, and, you know, it being springtime and the trees in bloom and playing soccer or football with my cousins, things like that.
Sorry, it wasn't about the resurrection for me, but still very fond memories of getting together with family to celebrate Easter for sure.
Yeah.
And I got some of my kids came in town to visit me.
So it's somewhat of a full house over here, you might say.
And yeah, so it's, and by the way, I'm going to be a godfather.
Yes.
Big, big news.
I want to ask who asked you who did the honor, but you know, whatever.
Well, maybe we'll leave it to later in the show.
I'll elaborate a little bit on it.
We can come back to it.
All right.
Good deal.
You'll make a hell of a one.
Now, I'll admit I was disappointed.
I thought it was going to be grandfather.
You know what?
None of these kids of mine are anywhere close to being in that position.
Unfortunately, well, I won't say unfortunately, but you should be ready and do things the right way and everything.
But ground beating.
Yeah, guilting then.
That's a time proven way to get your kids to shape up and give you grandkids.
All right.
That's right.
That's right.
Thanks.
Next up, if he were a fairy tale character for the past week, he would definitely be Grumple Stiltskin.
Rolo, my friend, how the hell are you?
I know the answer, but.
Well, you know, in the 50-some episodes of Full House I've done, this is by far the guest I've been most excited for.
Well, good.
That's music to my ears.
I want to make you happy for a change.
What's new in your world?
I know the tedium and whatnot may have you down a little bit, but turn that frown upside down.
Anything new?
Well, I've just been doing a lot of painting and been trying to get this big painting done.
And I was making a lot of progress.
And then I think I did, I kind of hit a plateau as far as the drive to finish.
It's tough to master that Floydian nose for your, you know, the painting over your fireplace there.
What do you, that was the George Floyd joke, Roland.
What do you paint?
Okay, never mind.
I know who George Floyd is.
I have lived in America in the last few years.
Well, originally I was doing oil.
And then I kind of hung it up.
And I was just like, you know, I want to do something a little different because it wasn't giving me the look that I wanted.
So I switched over to watercolor.
And it just, it pops out a little better for what I'm doing because art is subjective.
And you can't just do.
Go ahead.
Can you add watercolor on top of an oil or did you scrap it and start over with watercolor?
I didn't put it on top.
It's a big painting.
It's not like I'm not painting on like a, you know, eight and a half by 11.
You know, it's a, it's a, it's a big piece.
And I, I, I'm, I'm looking forward to the final product.
It a?
Is it a landscape?
Is it a portrait?
What is it?
It it's a landscape okay, all right.
Is it like dogs playing poker on velvet?
It's velvet.
Elvis is what actually.
It is okay, the Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, but with Elvis, Rollo branches, all this stuff that yeah, new new Bob Ross, all right.
Yeah well, good luck on that, buddy.
I uh post a picture in the chat.
See your progress.
If you're not uh i'll, i'll send uh, i'll send Sam a picture later and then you know, i'll let.
Okay see, i'll let him, I think.
I think he'll appreciate it the most, and then he'll, you know, go from there and say if you like it or not, all right, the George W Bush, you know, discovering painting later in life.
Maybe it's already always been a thing.
All right, thank you Rollo.
And finally, our very patient and special guest, one of White Nationalism's foremost entertainers for over half a decade.
The last time I saw him, he was deliberately dumping his pint of beer into the lap of a Sibnat cook who was opposed to our presence in a local drinking establishment.
His encyclopedic knowledge of black shenanigans and malfeasance make Jared Taylor look like Corky From Life.
Goes on, the first producer of full House I don't know if anybody remembers Life goes on the host of Hate House on the Americaner Network and one of the funniest men in our thing, Larry Ridgway.
Welcome back, pal.
Thanks for having me.
Man, I had forgotten entirely about dumping that beer in that guy at that place it was.
It was really hilarious.
You were apologetic the next day and I was like hey Larry, we you know, none of us got uh, you know, in a rumble or arrested, and it was damn funny, you got away not for yeah, what was it was.
We were arguing with him about Abraham Lincoln and we were like yeah well yeah I, I like so yeah so uh, Jayo was with us and Jayo's like these, these guys know, these guys know we're racist, they're locals and they're like looking at us and they're talking.
Larry's like oh yeah, and he and I remember like he was, like he was kind of, he was kind of heavy and he had on a hockey jersey or a football jersey or something and Larry just goes, was it Kevin Smith?
All good natured, he looked yeah, he was like a young Kevin Smith.
And Larry goes up to him all good natured like oh hey man, you know, he's got a big pint of light beer in his hand or whatever it was, and then he just like like so dramatically fake, dramatically just like stumbles and just pours it right in this guy's lap.
And the guy didn't even, you know, Chimp out about it.
It was, it was uh, masterfully executed.
Yeah I, I I felt pretty bad the next morning.
The next day i'm sorry, making a fool of myself.
No, you'll remember I was like, don't make a big deal out of it, buddy.
Like you know, I was like, all right yeah, I mean, if we, if we all got like in a fight and arrested that night, I would have been pissed off.
I remember Jayo Looking at me, like, I think you better duck out the back, coach, with our friend over there.
I was like, Yeah, I'll go get the car.
Yeah, well, yeah, I uh, yeah, I was, I was pretty, I was pretty intoxicated that night.
I, I, I've done some pretty, retarded, pretty retarded shit whenever.
Hey, uh, I, I didn't, I, I brought, I brought that up as a, as a fond memory, and that literally was the last time it's been too, it's been, it's been too long.
Uh, anyway, buddy.
Um, how the hell are you?
I'm good, man.
Yeah, working you haven't, well, there hasn't been, all right, so there hasn't been a show in uh what almost a month, uh, actually, there have been, there have been two shows we've put out in the last like week.
I, it's not really like a set panel, though.
So it's like a cowboy's been coming on a bit and Bobby from the gamer word has been who coach hates, by the way.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
He's my members.
No, I used, I used to hate him.
Uh, he really bothered me.
And then he grew on me.
Like, oh, so this is not like a current.
Oh, okay.
So I see what you're saying.
So this is, this is a current beef then.
No, no, no, no.
I do not have a beef button.
Rolo's stirring it up.
Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be one of those kind of shows.
Hey, so would you say, Coach, that's a, that's a callback to a different time?
Absolutely.
A different era.
Yeah.
Those may have gone, may have gone over your head, but that's.
That is over my head.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's not over Rolo.
That's what matters here, really, is that other people get it.
It's like the second time in three weeks.
I didn't know about the term for Rolo's neutered goats.
I'm still not over it.
Anyway, Larry, let's start with your dear.
Well, yeah, let's start with dear daughter.
You have, you know, you were our full house producer for the first couple months at least.
And you are the proud father of, is she still on single digits?
I hope, or is she already last year?
Single digits.
Recently had her ninth birthday.
Getting older.
And are you still on good terms with her?
Is she still daddy's little girl?
And she still looks up to you and everything's cool, or she's starting to really get difficult into the preteen years.
I haven't had, I've, she's, I'm still, everything's still good.
There are no struggles yet.
I know that she's not in like the like pre-teen years that, you know, like 10, 11, I expect maybe some difficulties will arise then, but everything's still great now.
I mean, we get along great.
Her mom and I get along great.
Wonderful.
And you're not one of these dads who's like, she should be homeschooled.
We got to get her out of that school.
It's going good enough for now that you're not too worried about that situation.
I actually, I have no complaints about the school she goes to at all, actually.
I live in a pretty, very, pretty white area.
And I haven't seen anything alarming come home from the school yet.
And she doesn't ever say anything that like concerns me.
Like she's still.
Yep.
Do you reasonably ask her?
Yeah.
Do you like Griller?
Because I actually, not all the time, but I'll ask the kids like, so have they started with any of the gay or the tranny stuff at school?
Be honest with me.
And because there are days where they're like, no, yeah, that'd be pretty cool if I could be homeschooled.
I wouldn't have to wake up so early for school.
So like, I would think that if there's bad stuff in the school, they would tell me to like sweeten the pot for homeschooling.
But do you ask her or just take her word for it?
Well, I don't really like press the issue, but she, I mean, she knows what I, what I think of like all the, the trans stuff and things like that.
I don't.
I heard, I heard a bad story recently of a guy that we know he does like moving or delivering kind of a service.
And he was delivering the voting machines in Chicago to the like public schools because they're they just had election here recently.
And so he was in this public school library, you know, delivering the voting machine.
And when you walk in, they have like the books that they're promoting and it's like all transgender this, gay that.
Here's your, you know, one, one white parent, one black parent book about that type of a situation.
It's just everywhere in schools now.
I have heard.
Go ahead, Larry.
Oh, I was just going to say, like, some, like the books that I've seen, like her bring back, like Charlotte's Webb, they were like their teacher is reading, they were reading that this year in the school and things like that.
I haven't seen, I haven't seen any books like that that she's brought back.
And all the books that she brings back that she checks out from the library are like books about animals or boats.
Yeah, the one time.
And the reason I ask, I'm certainly not running cover for like the government schools or whatever, but you hear the horror stories.
And I must have heard the same weird horror story like three or four different times from different people about, oh, did you hear that they've got litter boxes in the classroom now and the one county over?
And then when I'm over in that county, I'll ask somebody, like, did you hear something about litter boxes?
They're like, yeah, I heard about that, but there's, it's not in our school and stuff like that.
So some of this stuff is a little bit whispered down the lane or like it happens in one school, you know, 50, 100 miles away.
And then it becomes this thing.
Like it exists, of course, but I'm literally bird-dogging this stuff.
And I'm like, okay, like the kids are staying okay.
Sam's doing over there right now.
But Sam's got a new mayor.
Yeah.
Let's go, Brandon.
Yeah, we'll talk about your new Brandon mayor, but go ahead, Larry.
Well, Coach, what you're saying there about like, yeah, you can, I agree with you.
Like in a country that is as big as the one that we live in, because I've heard the same story you're talking about about the litter boxes.
I actually heard that about the school district next to the one that I live in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I swear to God, like I've heard that same story.
And yeah, it may exist, but in a country of like 350 million people, like you're bound to find, like, you can find a new thing to be super mad about every single day and just pretend that's out on some mass scale.
But when I, from what I've experienced, just when you go out and it's not really, that's just not the way it is.
It's just not, I mean, I see some crazy stuff in my personal life.
I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but it isn't every singleware that you go.
And the idea and like having that sort of mind virus that it is is what makes people the way they are today.
Like there's a lot of like shut-ins.
Oh, I don't want to go outside.
Just the constant negativity and crap.
Like, you know what I mean?
Sure.
They're living in like a false reality.
Well, it is everywhere.
I was at the cleaners and the girl behind the counter, she's wearing like the high school jersey or something.
And in a moment, I said, oh, that's nice.
And then I get closer and underneath the name of the school, it says inclusive and diverse.
Like, how the hell would you wear something like that?
You know?
Yeah.
One of the things, Larry, is that, you know, you mentioned, you know, you are not in a particularly diverse area.
I'm not either.
And I was, I was wondering, what was it that sort of kicked you off into the, you know, frankly, hilarious, voluminous production of all these tales, frankly, you know, ragging on blacks and their impact on the culture.
Did you grow up in a more diverse area?
Or is it, is it just that observation of all the news stories and little stuff in your daily life?
How'd you get, how'd you get started on this road, frankly?
Well, I mean, growing up, I always knew that like blacks were different.
I didn't have like big experience with them.
I moved outside of DC for close to two years when I was 21 years old.
So from like 21 to 23, I worked in a restaurant actually as a kitchen manager there.
And I was like one of three whites, white people that worked there.
The rest were like black and Hispanic.
And just like being around, that was the first time I actually heard about like white privilege was in like 2012 working at freak.
I'm sorry.
Working at the restaurant there.
And man, I'm sorry about that.
I was, we're like five minutes into this.
It's all right.
We're all completely unbelievable.
But yeah, just like being around and like listening to the things that they complain.
And it's like every time that you would say something that would just be reasonable, there'd be some new excuse, some new complaint.
Like it was never enough.
Do you know what I mean?
And then it was just sort of, I got into the reading about like Confederate history.
And then I stumbled upon, you know, white nationalist podcasts and whatnot.
And then I was like, oh, this, like, I agree with all this stuff.
And I've seen things like something, like, not like, and then reading the articles and whatnot.
And sure.
Yeah.
So it's not like, it's not like you were getting beat up, you know, because I asked, I asked Hammer the same thing last show, you know, because he grew up in, spent significant time in the South.
He's like, no, man, you know, Baltimore.
He's like, no, had a pretty normal, you know, upbringing childhood, not, not too much trauma.
Just don't, you know, just don't like them.
Realize, realize their nature.
Well, I think growing up in like a, like such a non-diverse area, I mean, maybe just, I mean, even then, though, like, I knew that they were like way different, like their, the propensity to violence.
It's like every, every news story that I'd see, like, oh, some like white woman brutalized, like, let me click on this.
And it's like the perpetrator is a black guy.
Like, you know, I knew that.
But it's, you see like the contrast moving from a non-diverse place to like a place with, where you're the minority or it seems like you're the minority, even though like numerically you're, you're technically not.
But compared to where you're from, it's very jarring.
You know what I mean?
Just sort of like step like stepping into a cold bath.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You don't need to be marinated in them from birth to, yeah, sometimes not having that experience and then getting thrown in with them, especially when you're of age.
Yeah, it does the trick.
Cause I mean, yeah.
And when you're trying to like, sorry.
No, not at all.
No, I was saying, and like, when you're trying to exercise like any amount of authority over them, like basic stuff at a restaurant, you know what I mean?
Like ask like cutting somebody in like the order, you know what I mean?
When you're closing a restaurant, like you're cutting servers in the order that you're supposed to do that, right?
And even if like, I'm not the one that came up with the order that they were getting cut, I'm cutting them.
And that means you're like taking them off the floor.
They're not getting tables anymore.
Yep.
And the complaints and that, oh, that's favoritism and the, you know what I mean?
Like crap like that.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'm sorry I interrupted you for that.
It just, you said that and it just popped into my head.
No, not at all.
And I was just excited.
The one and only time I appeared on Hate House, I told the story.
I don't think I ever told it on this show, but sixth grade, you know, 90, maybe even 95% white school.
And for whatever reason, he was probably 14 years old in sixth grade.
And his name was Charles Sewell.
S-E-W-E-L-L, funny enough, just took it by himself.
You know, for whatever reason, that day, he decided that I was his enemy.
And I remember his like snarling, white, pearly teeth and the foam at the corner of his mouths as he's like running around chasing me on the playground, screaming.
And I eventually, you know, I was fast enough to stay away from him.
Eventually had to go run inside and, you know, inside the school.
And then he finally relented.
And that was, that was not enough.
That, you know, that traumatic experience, the first time feeling actually really menaced and in danger at school.
And lo and behold, it's like this 14 year old black kid.
That didn't do it.
It wasn't until later on in adulthood, early 20s, mid-20s, riding the DC Metro with the brother who threatened to smash a snapple bottle over my head for telling him to shut up or the one guy who, you know, there was like a black lady who had her purse, you know, it was a crowded train and she had her purse next to the, next to her on the seat.
And like, that's a big no-no for anybody.
You just don't hog two seats.
It was a little purse.
And I basically went over there and just, you know, sat down next to her and implied, you know, yeah, you have to move your purse.
And that really pissed off this black guy in the train.
And then he eventually got up and like stuck his finger in his jacket and put it into my rib.
It was very obvious that it was his finger.
So I wasn't too freaked out.
But he literally did like a fake holdup to me to get me off the train because he didn't like how I treated his African sister.
Now, those experiences growing up, those, those were enough for me to realize that these DC brothers were a little more subhuman devils.
There it is, Sam trying to redeem himself.
I'm going to ask you this too, Sam, but Larry, what's your, did you ever have, what's your worst experience with black America if one sticks out to me?
Now, I do have a hilarious Larry story, just a run of the mill where he's just driving down the road like a good American citizen, minding his own business.
And there's a black guy loitering in the middle of the road.
And Larry pulls over, rolls down his window and says, hey, nigger, get out of the street.
I believe, I believe that's true.
Don't, don't correct me if I'm wrong, Larry, but that just really struck me as a very Larry moment.
I don't know.
Dude, actually, there is.
Well, I there were, there was, there was one time that there was something that was worse.
I'm not going to bring that up, though, because it paints me in a very less than flattering.
Well, my, I was very intoxicated whenever I, I wasn't driving.
I'll say that.
I wasn't drinking and driving.
But shoot, what was I just going to say?
Oh, worst experience.
Yeah, one sticks out right away.
It was when I lived right outside of DC.
One of the people that I worked with, I was walking back with him because he lived like right across the street from me.
And it was like a mile or two.
And we had just both closed.
So we're walking back and we meet up with his brother.
Well, we end up like sitting out front of the house.
And I was like, you know, 21 years old.
We're like smoking weed out front of my house.
And they, I like I don't know how this happened, my wallet was gone.
I had like 140 in there and I was going back to visit Pennsylvania to go hang out with people like that weekend and that was my money to get there, ended up not ending up missing my trip because oh, I didn't have, didn't have the wallet.
But I didn't know until I went into the house later on.
Don't know how it happened.
And then yeah, then when I was like, I just straight up accused the one like the next day at work, and that's whenever the whole uh oh, that's like super racist, messed up of you to like say that man, but I was renting a room at the time off of this El Salvadorian family.
So I yeah, so it's hard to say, I mean it could have been, could have been any of them, but I, I was one of those two.
It was him or the other one.
Sam, do you ever uh, does something stick out to you in terms of your most dangerous or most offensive interaction with diversity?
Yeah, that's an interesting question because i've never had like an all-out brawl with one of them or something like that.
But um I, I remember I was in a uh in public at one point uh representing, as I all often do or often have and uh, they started noticing what I was about and what patches I had on my bomber and stuff like that, and they started calling me out on that, that type of stuff and uh, it was threatening, but I didn't say anything, we just kind of stared each other down.
It was a put moment of potential where you you kind of get concerned, you know, about what could happen.
But they walked away and I walked away.
So um, there was that.
I suppose it's more uh, maybe a little more confrontation would be.
I was working at a place and one of them, you know, here we're all working and this guy, who's like a nobody is, is on the phone this is before cell phones.
He's on the company phone, just yapping up, yapping and talking and I, and not a one or two minute call that you had to take or something.
Finally, I went over there I said hey man, get off the phone, you know.
And then.
So then he went and told somebody and I was confronted by another one of them, you know, and and yeah, they told me off pretty good, and I just didn't say anything, but I stared at them and I didn't back down um, and that you know that was it.
But you know that's they.
They're, they're very selfish, that way they're.
They're without any honor or virtue they're.
They are stupid and selfish and petty and uh, they're not people and they smell, isn't it isn't?
And they smell crazy, isn't it?
They're ugly, they're ugly.
I hate the way they talk.
I hate the way they smell.
I hate the way they dress.
You know what i'm saying?
It's there it's, it's.
It's a negative on every level, you might say.
When the one uh, sort of fake uh stuck a gun in my ribs and pushed me off the train, I went to the office that day and I I actually told a co-worker about what happened.
She said, are you serious?
You gotta, you gotta go report that.
That's like a legitimate crime.
So I went back to the station, told the lady working there what, What happened?
She called a DC Metro or you know, Metro police cop to come over.
He took the report.
And then he's like, here's the officer.
You call or file this.
It's like, all right.
And then I saw the guy on the train like a week later.
And I, and I like took a picture of him.
I, it was like, what, my first iPhone, 3GS, took a picture of him, clear as day.
Right.
I called the called the officer back.
I was like, hey, I got a picture of him.
You know, you want me to email it to you or whatever?
And he never, he never responded.
Low level, not interesting enough to try to hunt down Pookie.
Pookie was the tattoo he got on his leg.
Caught that too.
Yeah, I would say you just got to consider yourself lucky.
You know, the system loves these niggers more than anything.
They would do anything to help them.
They do nothing to help you.
That's the way it is.
Yeah.
And it probably would have been a real gun or a knife 10 years later as it was.
Larry, are you dating?
Are you trying to get back in the game?
You got a lot of clout.
You're tall and you're not bad looking.
Don't mean to probe, but you got a lady.
Have you ever gone on a date that was thanks to your deserved fame, for lack of a better term?
No, not because of this.
Yeah, no, not at the moment.
I'm doing things in my personal life, getting some things straightened out, fixing up the house I'm in.
Wait, you're still, you're still, yeah.
Is it on the agenda or is just like it's back burner right now, but yeah, I'd like to have another two kids if possible.
Hell yeah.
That's the that's the goal.
And and you never went out on a date thanks to your internet clout.
No, it never happened.
All right.
But uh, yeah, seems like a what?
No, I don't know.
It seems like like an underutilized talent, you know, like if uh like there are some guys getting dates and getting wives based on their uh notoriety, it seems like you know, it seems like you'd be at the top of that stack.
We are trying to help out.
Well, I don't know.
I think the mention that you were the uh producer on Full House, that might help a little bit.
Oh, yeah, there you go.
I should have taken it, yeah, right.
Nothing else, Rollo.
Yes, that's that's what you're missing, Rollo.
Gotta throw that in there, yeah.
Toss that in the bio, but yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I produced uh Full House for like eight episodes.
That's right, hell yeah, that's the ticket.
That'll, that, that'll answer all my uh, all the woes that I, that are on my back burner right now, you know what I mean?
And if she's really anti-Semitic, you can tell her that it was because Alt Skull came on the show.
They bailed out.
I believe, do you remember?
Was that, was that, was that what kind of pissed you off and you were like, ah, find a new producer?
I think it, I think it was that, but I don't, I don't, I don't know.
I, I was, I did a lot of like, I don't even, I don't even know him.
You know what I mean?
I don't think I've ever even talked to him in my life.
If that was the case, it was something that like I don't even, I don't even know what I was mad about.
So yeah.
Um, do you have I, you are like me and you've got some scar tissue and I assume some regrets being in the cause, uh, all the shows that you've done, friends who have come and gone.
Um, where, where are you right now, psychologically?
We were talking before the show about like, you know, I don't need somebody to tell me how to think about this or that.
Like, I know all this stuff already.
Are you, are you a little bit jaded, brother?
Do you still have the fire?
I would say that I'm, I would, I would say jaded would be a good word for it, perhaps.
Because like, like, I get it.
You know, I don't need to hear things that I've heard for the past years.
I don't need to like, just I can just apply the things that I know my personal life.
Do you know what I mean?
Sure.
It's not something that I need to like harp over every single day.
Like, I get it.
I, there's just other things that are out there to learn, to like to focus on.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I, in the time that I took off of podcasting, like that year and just where I didn't really do anything, I was able to like get a house and you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, really settle down and chill out and stuff like that.
And then I noticed as I like, I came back, started doing the show again.
We did, I did like 50-some episodes.
Fall right back into like boozing all the time.
You know, not like all the time, but like two nights a week, just like getting trashed like at the computer, messing around.
So it's like a time sink.
And it's like, it's just so miserable.
It's like I could sit in here on the computer and watch the world burn around me and just like talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Talk about it and then just like laugh about it, frankly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Make people laugh about it.
It's like be like a court gesture, like with a bottle of, with a bottle of whiskey or something.
You know what I mean?
I caught myself there.
Is that no, you did it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
No, I don't, I don't want to blackpill you or the audience, but I mean, it's kind of like pulling back the curtain a little bit on content creation sometimes.
I mean, your, your, your show is a little is is different.
It's funnier than ours, but it's also darker than ours.
Uh, was it just like, yeah, go ahead.
Well, I mean, I personally think that like there are two catalogs of the show, like the stuff that happened like before I had my meltdown in 2019.
And then when I came back, like the show is, in my opinion, a lot different than it used to be.
I don't, I make it a point to really not talk about politics or like crime or really any of the stuff that I used to anymore because like what else can I say?
I kind of remember that time, Coach, when you were saying, I don't think it was just about alt skull, because I remember Larry, he was saying like, yeah, I'm going to quit drinking.
I'm going to start going to church and stuff.
Like you're trying to turn over a new leaf at that time.
And I kind of remember that.
And as far as the thing of like getting kind of maybe burnt out or wondering where, you know, what are you going to keep talking about?
We hear this from guys about like, oh man, I just can't keep listening to these podcasts.
It's the same thing.
Yes, I know.
Of course, I'm a white nationalist.
That doesn't change, but like to just keep talking about this kind of the same themes and keep being outraged about the nigger crime or whatever it is.
It's, it's, yeah.
And, and that's where for me, like, I'm a music fan, right?
And that's what I try to tie people in because there's always new music coming out, new things happening, new bands, or even old bands coming back and putting something out new.
And, and so I, I think that having that type of an interest in it too kind of keeps you interested in a fan kind of way of being entertained and interacting with the things and being even inspired freshly by things coming out that is not strictly just dwelling on those same themes and stuff like that.
I don't know.
That's just a suggestion.
Was it therapy for you at some point, Larry, to get on and vent and clown and sort of laugh about the disgusting world that we have to inhabit?
Or was there an element of like, no, I'm going to, you know, I'm a performer.
I'm going to lend my voice.
I'm going to make a name for myself and build up this brand.
Just curious about your psychology then when you started versus now.
Well, when I, when I start, when I started, it was, we started doing the show The Outright Rises, which I mean, I started to really hate doing.
I started to like hate doing that show.
I love that show when I was on.
After like four or five episodes of doing that, I like hated it.
But that ended after like 10 or 11.
Well, maybe like 20 episodes, I think.
And then started Hate House up after that, which I wanted to do to just sort of as like a light-hearted sort of like comedic thing.
But then it's But the comedy comes from you like riffing off of news stories, like current events at the time, which if you do that over time, I just like it.
I went into it like thinking that this was a good thing.
Oh, this is great.
Good to be like making people laugh.
But in the end, it's just like depressed me.
You know what I mean?
Started drinking a whole bunch and then sad clown.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, essentially.
And then I think the second, like this second catalog has been a lot cooler, a lot more fun, in my opinion, because it's not so serious and really related to news or crime in any fashion.
All right.
So it's not.
I mean, for the audience, it hasn't, it hasn't heard the new iteration.
I mean, what's the new MO for the show?
I don't know.
I don't even really know how to explain.
I just get on with, depends on who I have on at the time.
I was doing the show with the guys from Les there for a while.
And then we just stopped doing that for just reasons.
And then recently I've been doing that with Cowboy and Bobby recently.
We just kind of get on and talk about whatever.
What's the name of the show, Larry?
It's still Hate House.
Still hate it.
Okay.
All right.
Gotcha.
I haven't changed that.
I've thought about it, but then I'll check it out.
A lot of people don't even think the show still exists.
If I changed the name, nobody would know that it exists.
You know what I mean?
Right.
So I still hold on to that and keep the name.
Fair enough.
In your IRL stuff, Larry, I assume that you have to deal with diversity, at least to a certain extent, on the job site, etc.
You're essentially a normal person.
You can like, you know, tolerate them or interact with them more or less in a civil way, so long as they're not in your way.
Or do they, do they actually really drive you up the wall 24-7 or whenever you come across them?
I mean, at work, I'm just, I'm there to do my job.
I really just keep to myself.
I kind of work away from everybody.
I work with like four or five other people.
And I don't come into like close contact.
I do have to deal with them, but it's not some, they're not like right beside me at all points of the day.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
One of the things that our enemies would like to think is that, you know, we're all just like frothing at the mouth and, you know, seeking to go kill or murder or get into fistfights or argue with these people when the, you know, possibly prosaic reality is like, no, we're, we are trying to get through this day with as little inconvenience and difficulty and risk of violence as possible.
Yeah, just trying to make money.
Just trying to go to work.
You know what I mean?
Like that's it.
I just go to work and then I clock out and I go home or I don't know.
It's really it.
But it's just, I don't, in my spare time, that's something I definitely avoid.
But it's like I said, it's easier for me to do that than just for others.
You know, living in clown world, knowing the narratives and knowing the score, is there is there stuff that still really interests you out there about whether it's the JQ or like the dynamics or international relations, or is it are you really truly jaded by almost everything that's not in your immediate here and now?
Sorry for like the intellectual, you know, psychological probing, if that's a word.
Oh, no, it's yeah, curious, you know, it's like the evolution of you.
And I'm sure that there's a lot of guys, you know, we're all kind of growing up together, right?
When you were in your heyday, maybe earlier in the fatherland days, feels it, it just feels like a different time, and now we're here and it's worse times, but we're older and wiser.
Yeah, it's it is, it is pretty wild because, because there's like you can look back on, I mean, this show's been going for what, like, four or five years, four years, you said.
This will be our fourth year this month.
Yep, you can look back on stuff that you said four years ago.
Do you know, it's that's wild, and you can actually hear the change over the years.
I mean, I don't, I purposely don't go back and listen to the first catalog of the show, but you know, finding them download them and like listening to like five, ten minutes of it, and then hearing it then, it's just like, oh my god.
Like, but as far as um, like, I'll listen to something if it's like worth listening to, if it's something that interests me.
It's just I have to look, I have to see it.
Like, oh, well, I'll like check this out, but it's not something that like I seek out anymore.
There are still some shows that I listen to like every week when they come out, but sure, yeah, most of the time, I um, I don't know, I listen to a lot of audio books when I'm at work.
Gotcha, brother.
Uh, Rolo said before we recorded this that uh, you know, having Larry on made him happier than he's been in a while, or he was more excited for this guest.
Rolo, I said that while we were recording, okay, sorry, I didn't keep it, keep details, details, chit chat before or after.
Uh, sorry, yeah, I mischaracterized that big guy.
Well, go ahead, ask you know, ask Larry a question, or why is that, Rolo?
You can.
Oh, I got a quick, I got a question for Larry.
Larry, yeah, uh, how are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you, Rolo?
Long, long time.
I'm good.
Yeah, I miss you.
I miss you too, big guy.
Is that some gay undercover story that went over my head too?
Or is it just no?
Rolo used to come on on Hate House.
Uh, I don't know, like last year, but then he stopped.
Rolo, what's your worst experience with diversity in your entire life?
Most vivid.
Don't think too hard.
Uh, I, you know what?
I went to a middle school for one year that had a lot of blacks in it, and then they were very scary and they were very violent, they were very aggressive.
And uh, I didn't really have any negative opinions of them until that happened.
Because the elementary school I went to was in a very white area, I lived in a white area, and then the middle school I went to, they just bust all the blacks.
And it was crazy.
It was probably a third of the school was black, and they were very violent and they were always causing problems.
And I went back to my hometown when I was, I don't know, 21, 22 or something.
And I visited a middle school friend and he just mentioned some black that went to our school.
I was like, yeah, yeah, I remember that person.
She kind of looked like a ninja turtle.
And he's like, yeah, I just saw her on the news.
She just got arrested for some assault with a deadly weapon robbery.
Yeah, how about that?
And I would guess that at least half of the blacks I went to middle school with are in jail right now or went to jail if they're not dead.
Sure.
And it wasn't because of mean old Whitey or lack of opportunity.
Well, it depends.
It depends on what the lawyer says.
Sure.
Yeah.
One of the sort of, you know, again, so this guy, Cash App founder Bob Lee, I'm not, I don't mean to like just transfer into doing news, but this was breaking that, you know, this San Francisco IT tech big wig, probably worth many millions, stabbed to death in San Francisco.
He had left San Francisco, apparently, to move to Miami.
Wonder if he was neighbors with Peter Thiel.
But he's walking alone, apparently, two o'clock in the morning, San Francisco in a nice neighborhood, and somebody came along and stabbed him.
And there's this surveillance footage of him going up to some apartment building, trying to get help, nobody answering.
If you remember, Rick Moranis and Ghostbusters 1, when he goes up to the window of the restaurant, help as the dog is about to eat him.
And everybody's like, yeah, they just go back.
They go back to their meal.
This guy's trying to get help and apparently even waved down a car and pulled up his shirt to be like, no, look, I've been stabbed.
And you could even put yourself in the shoes of that San Francisco driver and be like, oh, yes, a man with a bleeding stomach is yelling at me on the road.
I'm going to keep on driving.
And this guy's dead now, leaves behind two white daughters, so far as I can tell.
And of course, the grim reality is that he was appropriately officially anti-racist from 2020.
Bob Lee, crazy Bob, says if you associate with, say, or do something racist and you don't correct them, you are guilty of racism by association, which is just as bad, perhaps worse, since you know better.
When it comes to racism, if you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
Now, you could forgive this guy, perhaps, for just saying the words that you're supposed to say on Twitter, but no, we're not going to forgive.
So is he part of the solution or part of the problem?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it's possible.
It's possible that he was stabbed by a crazy white junkie on the streets of San Francisco.
Not entirely out of the question.
But random stabbing of a dude on the street, pretty dubious, unless this guy was in some bad business hustles and this was a hit.
I doubt it.
Yeah, if he's in a nice neighborhood too, who it's probably, it has to sound like it would be somebody that's not from the neighborhood.
If you're in a nice neighborhood, generally speaking, nice neighborhoods don't house people who commit random acts of violence like that.
Kill a man on a walk.
43 years old, one year older than me.
He was handsome, possibly more handsome than me.
And he's just standing out.
It looks like just like a random tall white dude.
I wish I could feel bad for him.
I don't know.
Can you not?
Yeah, I mean, just because he had one cringe anti-racist tweet, Sam, is that enough to damn a man to deserve stabbing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, hold on.
Everything that is said and done against us, if you take the enemy side in the slightest way, you're a piece of shit to me.
But it's not just a cringe tweet because you know that that tweet is the basis for his entire business model.
If this guy sees that you do anything that could be construed as racist, he's going to make sure you cannot use this.
And he will, he would deprive people of a means to provide for their family.
It's not a tweet because it's not like this guy tweeted this and then the reality was like, I can't stop people from using cash.
I mean, I discourage such hateful rhetoric, but we live in America, the land of the free and the home of the brave.
So we're going to let people do what they can.
That's what he thinks the problem is.
But what the real problem is, is what happened to him.
Oh, yeah, the violent crime problem.
And you know what?
That goes to this guy that he tried to flag down, Sam.
Probably you read the article and there's a tweet in there.
A guy's talking about the violent.
Oh, it's actually Elon Musk.
He's like, violent crime in San Francisco is horrible.
The cab driver or the guy he flagged down didn't even care about the stab thing because he's like, this guy could be faking that to get playing on my sympathy to get me to pull over.
Absolutely.
Yeah, little did he know that, oh, this is the Cash App founder, like not some junkie walking around here pretending to be stabbed.
You know, I saw something speaking of crazed junkies and stuff, I saw this little video today of these people buying.
This is a thing in Oregon, perhaps.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Perhaps someone lives in Oregon could see if this is true.
Junkies buying like bottles of water on like a some sort of like EBT card out there, and then they dump the water out and exchange the bottles in for money to like buy drugs.
Wow.
What a, what a scumbag.
You know, like, what a thing to do.
And the video is these guys, these like three shitbags.
I mean, um, that's all right.
That's fine.
Okay.
Yeah.
These three guys in the parking lot, they're just dumping bottles.
Like they have two, three cases of water.
They're just dumping bottles on the ground.
Meanwhile, Colorado, a couple states over, it's like.
Yeah.
Couldn't they do better, like, you know, using their EBT to get like some other food and then like selling that as a side hustle rather than were they getting the bottle deposits?
I guess so.
Yeah.
That's what they said.
I get, I think when you exchanged them in, they said in the video that it was like to get your cash, probably a few cents.
Jesus.
But it's actual cash, though.
Yeah.
Adds up for them to get like a fix for a day or two.
I was impressed, though.
Go ahead, Sam, please.
Well, you know, if it was me, I guess maybe I would have picked up this Bob Lee and saved his life and preached him the gospel of white nationalism and saved his life.
And then he could help us out, maybe.
Yeah.
He's he was loaded and he was an anti-racist and now he's dead.
He got what he deserved.
Well, you know what they say.
Go ahead, Larry.
Go ahead.
So, you know what, Coach?
Maybe if this guy had more traction on his Twitter, he'd be more recognizable in public.
Ah, good point.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I didn't know you'd been.
Nobody's interested in what you have to say, Bob.
Or as you called him, Coach, Crazy Bob.
I like that.
Crazy Kookie Bob, folks.
He's out here being crazy.
Crazy Bob.
What were you gonna say, you know, if I were still on twitter?
Maybe I, you know, I used to go to San Francisco all the time.
Maybe I would have been driving down that street and recognized them if I were still on twitter.
No one wants to hear about your bathhouse escapades, come on.
No, my first time in San Francisco was with a Palestinian delegation of all things.
Believe it or not, it was in the.
It was in the Bush years and there was a delegation from Palestine and Telecom and IT and I took them around to Oracle and HP and a couple different companies and at the time I was still kind of blue pilled and I think it was the Second Intifada was going on.
Anyway, I was a young kid, I was probably 22 years old, in San Francisco for the first time.
Palestinians were nice enough.
Uh, they smoked like chimneys, a couple of them drank, a couple of them wanted me to go to the mosque with them.
I was like wet behind the ears.
I was like can we just get through this trip without any incidents and etc.
I remember thinking San Francisco back.
This would have been 2003, maybe 2004 was kind of a nice place, it was cool and uh, the Palestinians were to a man Anti-Israel, and at that point I kind of knew the score kind of didn't.
So I was.
You know it was.
It was a difficult time because it was still 9-11 aftermath.
You know Muslims are the greatest threat to Western civilization, etc.
Which I bought to a certain extent.
But I also listened to them carefully when they talked about all the things.
Palestinians are smart.
They're that.
You know, I don't care for people of other races, but uh, they are uh interesting.
Any any of them I've ever met were interesting and and very intelligent.
Oh yeah, I like them, except for the ones who are hustling me to go to the mosque.
I guess I like the more secular ones.
They they wanted you to go to the mosque with them because you're the same color as everyone there.
Very good rollo before I had my goatee too.
Yeah, it's funny.
Um, I wanted to talk about the Ricky case too.
Since we last went to tape uh, he'll still be Ricky Vaughn to me.
I always know a man by Larry will always be Larry.
I'll always be coach, Sam will always be Sam, Rolo will always be Rolo.
Uh anyway, the you know the fact that Ricky got prosecuted four years after posting the text by meme uh, text by vote by text memes, uh, it was shocking to me that they came after him as long, you know, right after Trump was out and Biden got in.
That sent a message to me that, oh boy yes, they have been taking very detailed notes now.
Ricky was pretty prominent on Twitter compared to most of you guys who may be nervous about a tweet here or there, but I and I was a big Ricky fan in the early days followed him, retweeted him.
He retweeted me a couple times uh, and I do feel sorry for the guy.
Seems like a nice guy doesn't, doesn't deserve this.
It's a travesty of justice.
It's selective enforcement.
But, and I don't care if this irritates some segment of the audience and or if it's discordant with the message or whatever.
I did want to point out that, and Cantwell might even agree with this too.
Like, you know, when Cantwell got arrested for his telegram threats, I said, yeah, that's ludicrous.
But when you read what he wrote and you show that to a grand jury, you know, or you show that to a jury, that does, that does look bad or that does look incriminating.
When you look at what the feds presented to that jury for Ricky, believe me, I know it's unfair.
Asian woman did same thing, wasn't prosecuted, et cetera.
It did look bad.
And I could understand how they were able to strong arm a jury into convicting him.
Now, that's not even the most interesting thing.
What's more interesting is that the Tuckers and the Sobieks and other characters, the Darren Beaties, came forward to claim Ricky.
Remember, Ricky was an anti-Semitic, racist, white nationalist Twitter dissident before they started censoring us all.
And then at some point after Charlottesville, Ricky morphed into a strictly, it was frankly probably right around the election, but particularly after Charlottesville, Ricky became this very tut-tutting, divisive, infighting.
You guys are all counterproductive.
Now, of course, in hindsight, maybe was he a little bit more right than I judged at the time, possibly.
But the point being, all this like advocacy defense of Ricky came and enables those guys to overlook all of his previous white nationalisms and anti-Semitisms, which is interesting.
So they do allow you to get a certain subset of like system respect and defense.
If you morph into, hey, I'm just, you know, Douglas Mackey.
I'm a nice guy.
I posted some memes, et cetera.
So sorry for the rant there, guys, but the point being, when you do stuff like even if it's a joke, post memes about texting to vote, as stupid as that sounds, if you think a jury could read something and see some sort of intent into it, it's not as simple as, oh, he just posted memes.
That is what I'm getting at.
It looked worse than that, regardless of how ridiculous and ludicrous it was.
And more interesting is, oh, if you sort of morph into a bland white pro-Republican conservative meme poster, pray for me, pray for me, pray for me, then you can get some system, you know, right-wing system air cover, which I just found interesting.
I'm not at all saying that that's what you should do.
But the whole, the whole thing was fascinating to me.
I'm sad that he got convicted.
I don't want to see the guy do a day in jail.
He won't get sentenced until August.
He's still got a appeal to come.
But a very, you know, fascinating turn of events.
But I don't think it means that all of our guys have to be paranoid that the meme police are coming for them, although they would want to.
But you do have to be aware that if you give them that crack of door, that light, that the system will take it and prosecute you.
Does that make sense, guys?
And did anything I said there piss you off or sound wrong?
No, I'm not mad.
It made sense to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you have to just expect that this system is completely unjust, you know, and it's anything that they can use like that to get you, they're going to.
And as bad, you know, you could just try to imagine that this had been done to the right wing side in some way.
They'd be making a joke about it like that.
Oh, Republicans would think that you could just text your vote how stupid they are.
What dummies, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
So, I mean, this is how it is.
And I guess that's what kind of smarts about it is when you kind of forget about that or you underestimate the system, how unfair and injustice is.
Yeah.
You know, I'm trying to put myself in his shoes, perhaps.
And if somebody was like, look, coach, you can do 20 years, but if you come out and make some statement like, I was wrong and, you know, the way forward is through racial harmony and accepting everyone for who they are.
I sure as hell hope that I'm being honest and saying I could not do that.
I would not do that.
Like that, that's just wrong.
Like take me up to the gallows, but I'm not lying.
And I'm not going to, you know, get a little bit of scrap of sympathy now or like a reduced sentence to, you know, basically, you know, march to the beat of the of the system drummer.
I just, I couldn't do it.
And I hate it when I see guys do it.
And you know that they get pressure to do it, right?
Even if, even if they don't want to, their lawyers are like, listen, it would be really helpful if you could come out and make a statement that you're not a racist anymore and that, you know, Jews are, you know, good, good people and not out to destroy our country.
And guys do it, I guess, in the heat of the moment, you know, when you're looking to save your bacon or your wife might be yelling at you.
Well, especially if they've made an explicit threat to you, I think then it gets, if it's just like, hey, man, we're going to really put it to you.
You better do this.
Yeah, you could resist that, but never underestimate when they have you alone in a room, what kind of threat that they could make to you or your family or what kind of torture or whatever that they would do.
They're not above doing any of that.
They would do any or all of that, absolutely.
And if they have you alone in a room, you can't judge a guy who's been broken by these pigs.
Yep.
Fair enough, Sammy, baby.
Yeah.
It's heavy times.
I just, yeah, there's there's there's some like common sense there that, you know, saying the n-word in a in a DM is not going to get you thrown in the gulag, but appearing to engage in something that would look very bad in front of a jury.
It's just words of possible wisdom for the audience.
I'm sure if he could take it back, I'm sure he would, you know?
Yep.
Larry, do you regret getting involved in white nationalism and podcasting at all?
Be honest.
If you could go back, would you do the same thing all over again?
Would you do it differently?
You and I both have had our share of like movement lessons and interpersonal lessons over the years.
Yeah.
No, I would maybe do it a little differently, but I would, I don't regret getting involved in it.
I mean, I still, I still believe all the stuff that I did.
You know what I mean?
Like nothing's changed there.
It's just I don't, I don't feel the need to just talk about it all the time.
But no, I think I would focus less on just like, you know, spiraling down some like this black pill staircase, reading about like black crime all the time.
And, you know, as if it's like, that's what's happening everywhere outside your door.
Like, yeah, it's happening for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it is funny.
You know, I used to work with a guy, and at lunchtime, he would read the newspaper.
He'd sit down close to where I was, and he'd open the newspaper and he'd read the crime blotter.
And almost every day, it was funny.
And we would say, you know, whoever, whoever the editor is that's putting these stories together, there's no way he doesn't understand what we understand about this.
Like the one story just said, just came to my mind.
The guy, of course, convicted felon.
So he hides his gun where anybody would put their gun in the oven, you know, loaded, of course.
And so somebody puts the oven on, and, you know, the bullets start going off, and there you go.
You know, it's just every day is like that.
And then we'd flip over to the sport, flip over to the sports section and read all the names, all the John Cuavius and all those names, you know.
What about you, Coach?
Would you change anything?
Yes, I would, Larry.
Like you, the one, you know, and, you know, I have suffered for my beliefs.
Of course, it's true.
My family has too.
However, if anything, the belief should have been there, you know, from birth.
And I wish that I knew all this stuff in 1981 going forward and lived my life, you know, with all this wisdom as opposed to being largely ignorant of it for most of my life.
But I haven't been too open about it on the show because I feel like, you know, we're candid enough on this show.
There's the whole, it's not diplomacy, but it's like you don't want to air dirty laundry or tell stories.
God, you know, I probably if I wouldn't have gone to school in Washington.
I would have studied something differently.
You know, would I have been more careful about how I express this stuff?
Possibly.
And the core of it, really, and it's possibly, probably what Larry feels to a certain extent is back in 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18, 2019, whatever the timeframe is, but it's roughly there.
There was that real feeling that there was this upswell of activity, of entertainment, of intellect, of networking.
It was new.
It was exciting.
And it felt like it was moving in a possibly country or world-changing direction.
And a lot of that was misplaced hope in Trump.
Let's not fool ourselves.
That was a big part of it.
You know, the idea that we were all working together, Republicans, alt-light, Kazakhstanis, alt-rightists, old school 1.0 Nazis, all pushing more or less in the same direction with Trump as our avatar.
When that was manifestly not the case, and other personality leadership in fighting strategy stuff came to the forefront, that's when you go back and say, huh, wow, we really did put our asses on the line for something that did not work out as that movement goes, right?
We were right.
It didn't work out then.
What do we do going forward?
And so would I still have gotten involved in it?
Yes, of course, because it was the right thing to do.
And we changed the minds of millions of people, made world history, helped defeat Hillary Clinton, made tens of thousands of friends, encouraged so many people to get on the right way of life.
It was worth it.
It's just a little disappointing to see how it's all ended up as of right now, this moment.
But of course, it's not over.
So that's the amount of like honesty and candor I'm willing to engage in, you know, Monday morning quarterbacking without being like a boohoo or negative ninny or something like that.
Well, the, you know, the progress of things comes in steps, you might say, or it, it, it goes up, peaks a little bit, comes down, goes back up higher the next time.
And, you know, I was just at a party recently and having a conversation like this with somebody.
And I said, well, you can just gauge the progress at this party full of people.
Now, 25, 30 years ago, it would be, and I pointed to a couple guys that were there.
It would be like these three or four skinheads that were here that are all heavily tattooed and listen to a certain kind of music.
That's this party would be nothing but people like that.
Now we got, look at this professional person here, this union worker here, this person who's a business owner there, this person who's various types of, you know, walks of life.
I call that progress and nobody can tell me different.
Amen, Sam.
And one of the other most important things is that of all the people that I've met in this thing, either in person, vetting, online, whatever, I would say the overwhelming majority of them only came to learn of the ways of the world, the red pill, the Jewish question as adults or as young adults, right?
Almost none of these people were told these things when they were kids from their parents.
And I'm damn serious when I think that we're making a difference and that every single one of us who's fathers or mothers or whatever are raising our kids to know the way of the world in whatever, you know, however you want to couch it, whatever level of detail or intensity, that's up to you for us all moms and dads.
But that's one of many things, right?
That I actually, there's a whole generation of our kids not be gullible, you know, suckers growing up.
The other thing is I would just refer to Full House.
Go back and listen to episodes of Full House where you read incredibly inspiring letters of people that have had life-changing awakenings because of this show and other things.
And of course, just their own courage to learn the truth and grasp a higher path in life.
So, you know, nobody can tell me that there's not profound effect on people's lives for the better.
Yeah.
And the other thing, Larry, is, you know, we're just getting, we're just getting older and the old like beep boop, you know, sort of Twitter, you know, lots of podcast stuff.
Our brains are probably like getting a little bit older and wiser to the point where we're like, ah, maybe, you know, maybe that's not the best use of our time right now.
And we should be focusing on other things.
Cause, you know, I, I, when I look at the news, I'm like, oh, yeah, I could probably craft a pretty sharp Telegram post about that or whatever.
But I'm like, you know what?
Somebody else probably is.
I've got stuff to do.
I'm just not going to like hyper posts like that.
That's, that's kind of where I am right now, for better or worse.
Yeah.
And it's the exact same for me, Coach.
Like I could, I mean, not in like the same way others would.
I'd maybe like make a joke or two about it, but I'd have to like think about it.
You know what I mean?
I'd have to like think about this stuff.
There's other people that are doing that.
So, and that's the thing.
Like sometimes when we're like doing the show on Odyssey or something, someone will be like, oh, you know, talk, talk about like, talk about black people or like, say, nigger.
Like they think you're like a, like a pull string doll or something.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, it's.
Yeah, it's just I, I.
It's just to the point now where like, I know what I know and I just almost just can't be bothered at this point in time.
All right yeah, I mean it sounds uh, I don't know when I say it like that, I guess it sounds no I, yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to, I mean it.
I mean you don't.
You don't have the exact same motivating fire that you did before, or it's different now and it's different I.
I focus my motivation on other things like uh, my immediate life and uh, you know, trying to do my best here.
That's what it's all about right uh, it's about doing as much as we possibly can in whatever avenues that we can do better, our families, our communities, our friend groups, our groups and the cause writ large.
I still believe in the cause.
I still believe that our ideology is the only one that makes sense in this world.
It's just that it is an uphill slog.
I'm reading this, uh, we are going to start bringing this puppy home.
Uh, because it's a thursday night rare thursday night, recording and a bunch of us have stuff to do tomorrow but i'm reading this Normie.
But serious history about the Third Reich uh, Richard Evans is the author.
He did three books, the rise of the Third Reich, you know, the Third Reich before World War Ii and then the Third Rich In It.
Uh, and it's just incredible, Hitler had, arguably like the, if you were to cook up a ground, a soil for national socialism, for fascism, for essentially white power to grow, all of the elements were there, from the disaffected uh, military veterans to the rapid change in culture, to the hyperinflation,
to the fact that you were already operating with a very diligent, 99 ethnically homogeneous society.
Uh you, you got it all to.
You know, the country's still uh, bothering in Germany.
It was just incredible.
Plus, of course, the magic that Adolf Hitler had.
So i'm not even saying like you shouldn't pursue, you know, the mass movement or politics or whatever.
It's just that that very brief tragic, yet magical moment in time where all those forces came together to give the Jews their biggest shock in a century or more.
Um, the situation here.
You have to think that Uncle would look at it and just like shake his head and say, you know how the hell could I work with that that's that's.
Another big thing is the realizations that you can't just cargo cult the 30s back into being, and it's.
You could think about it like this too, that like um, it would be almost like a uh.
So like the Jews represent one, let's make it a sports ball analogy, they represent, represent one sportsball team.
The other team is like the Nazis represent another sportsball team.
Nazis like crush them.
I mean, like the, but the Jews like come back with the aid of like outside teams.
So for the next 80 years, they study that game and the playbook that led up to that like vicious beatdown they took and that same team come back and being like, we're going to try everything almost the same.
Yep.
And for sure, we're going to, we're going to bust through the wall this time.
But we're going to do it the same with far less favorable circumstances today.
All right.
Yeah.
And it's like not a magical manager either.
Yep.
That we have almost pulled it off the first time.
Now let's not.
And to be fair, Larry, like I have no interest in like straw manning what our guys are doing in different areas.
Like, God bless them, you know, do something.
I think it's, it's more just the realization that a lot of us were, you know, we're naive and that, you know, oh, if you can create some propaganda and get this, you know, good, good figurehead out there to give some speeches and stuff like this, we can get that old party going again.
And by God, we will one way or another, but it's, it's, it's just not, not that easy, despite our advantages and like digital communications and stuff.
I don't know.
Sam might be looking at Larry and me like a bunch of nitties, you know, dour enthusiasm sappers, but I, I, I, I hope not.
Like, like Sam's probably heard this stuff many times before, but we're not playing.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Are we?
Not in the slightest.
Just some real talk.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, some of this is, uh, you got to look at it kind of like left-hand path type stuff.
Like this, this is a personally empowering understanding of the world.
You know what I mean?
And so when you understand things, then you can make things work in your favor or you can avoid certain problems and things like that.
When you don't, when you don't understand how things work, then you're constantly frustrated and you attempt things that shouldn't be attempted.
And you know what I mean?
So I look at a lot of it like that.
You know, I'm not necessarily looking towards a long-term victory or a total victory or something like that.
Who knows how that will shape up.
I do think that's inevitable.
But I look towards the victories we have now, just like I described to you when I was at the party, just that we have all kinds of new blood in this thing that never was in it before.
And the one thing that the enemy would deprive us most of is each other.
And that's what we have gotten back through these, whether it was the pool party system or other means of us coming together.
We now have groups throughout the country of people who are, okay, sure.
Yeah, maybe it's quote, nothing more than unquote parties, but it's we rely on each other.
We help each other.
One guy we just had, he was moving.
He said, hey, I need some help moving.
Guess what?
A whole bunch of big, strong guys show up and help you move.
And so there's a big difference in life of being totally alone or nearly alone versus having people that you know that you can call and help will come.
So I look at the victory we have now is a victory or something that they would have done everything in the world to deprive us of, but we've taken that from them.
Yep.
And you nailed it too, Sam.
When you look at success or failure through the lens of news clippings and atrocities, anti-white rapes, murders, et cetera, and how close we are to taking the White House or the Congress versus taking stock of your own life.
Yeah.
Babies under the roof, new friends, new businesses, new ability to withstand the story.
New Godfather.
New Godfather.
Good.
Yeah, we'll bring it home.
I want to hear more about that.
But it was just four or five months ago where I gave a speech detailing all the reasons that we had to be optimistic, both in the macro and the micro scale.
Those things are all still valid.
It's just, you know, the fan, not the fantasized, but it's sort of like the ideal that we had of a mass movement moving in one direction with concrete, actionable, like America changing goals or Western civilization turning on a dime.
It's crumbling and there is new forces rising that will probably topple it over like Humpty Dumpty.
It's just unfortunate.
Well, for one reason or another, we're not there driving too much with power and money.
It's when the path to success, you have to be flexible in the way you're going to get there from here because there's a lot of factors in play and you can't let it be that if I didn't reach success the way that I imagined it happening, then I didn't succeed.
No, that's not how it works.
It's like maybe you, maybe you want to get married.
You want to meet meet the right woman.
And so you have your ways of doing that, but you have to be open-minded that it might come by some other route, you know, or it might shape up in some unexpected way.
So you have to be flexible and open-minded in the way you approach any problem or any goal in life.
Amen.
On that note, Sam, one new white life for me today, got to keep it anonymous.
I'll just say it's a dear friend.
He and his wife had been trying for a significant amount of time.
He always told me we're, you know, when somebody says, oh, we're trying, we're trying, and no baby comes, I'm like, are you trying?
Are you trying hard enough to be a jerk or whatever?
But in the back, you know, the devil on my shoulder is like, they must not be really trying, or they're just, you know, going through the motion.
Hey, they finally did it.
And they are not in the best situation in life.
They have like a current challenge that they're facing and they still did it.
And he said, God has answered our prayers.
That's beautiful.
So congratulations, guys.
You know who you are and can't wait to meet the little guy or girl.
It's still kind of early days, but he said congratulate him as long as I kept it anonymous.
And congratulations to you, Godfather, your new moniker for the show.
Yeah, that's right.
I've been hearing also about some possible things happen in the baby making department.
I'm just going to leave it there because I don't have any kind of permission to even give any anonymous things.
We'll just leave it like that for a while.
But been hearing a lot of good things, though, from our people.
So another reason to be excited.
But yeah, the Godfather thing, one of our guys is becoming Catholic and he asked me to be the Godfather sponsor for getting baptized and confirmed.
And of course, the confession and communion all comes, all four things come together.
So if you know your Catholicism, then you know that those things are typically done on Holy Saturday coming up.
So I'm looking forward to that, you know, and I don't know that I'll get a chance to tell this young fella everything, you know, and nor do I want to bombard somebody with advice that they're not asking for.
You know, that always sucks.
But maybe I could just mention it sort of in summary.
You know, morning prayers every day, evening prayers every day.
I know this would be probably a lot of modern people can't even imagine it, but Holy Rosary every day.
Those are things I hang my hat on absolutely.
And I would, I would know that I didn't get everything done I'm supposed to do today if I didn't do all those things.
But frequent confession, you know, at least once a month.
You got to go once a month.
If you come to the end of the second month and you haven't gone, you have to make immediate priority to get that done.
It's an amazing, amazingly cleansing experience to do this.
And it's probably a lot of people are laughing and groaning about all that.
But, you know, I'll put it out there anyways.
And somebody might get to some kind of point in their life where they need help or they're down far enough or they know that they got to do something different.
And then they'll remember this and say, well, maybe I'll try that, you know.
But the frequent confession is good.
And I know some people might say like, yeah, but I don't do anything that worthy of a confession for crying out loud.
Well, you do.
You feel better after confessing.
That's right.
I mean, even the, you know, the saints went every day.
Some of the saints went every day.
So, you know, it keeps the small sins small.
And it's, like I say, it's an amazingly renewing experience.
And if everybody knew how great it was, well, it would be bad for me because then the lines would be really long and I'd have to wait long time.
But those are the things I would tell this young man if I get a chance to tell him.
Make sure you do those things and stay with it and you will not be sorry.
So I'm looking forward to it.
Larry, thanks for coming up.
Yeah, go ahead, Tip.
Oh, I was just going to throw in one more thing.
I know for the groaners out there that would say how bad all these churches are.
No, I'm right there with you.
And I don't mean to say like that the church is any kind of panacea because absolutely every one of these churches is run by queers and enemies and race mixers and everything else.
All I would say is if you can find a place where you can tolerate them and they can tolerate you, it is certainly worth it.
And anyways, you've got to make it your thing, you know, like if somebody's going to tell me, oh, well, you know, the church says like this or that, and like I'm supposed to follow that.
No, you can't do it like that.
If you can own it, if you can make it your thing and make it consistent with the values that we know that are right, that nature teaches us, then I'd say you could go for it, you know, and that's what I do.
So I am not naive that these churches are mostly almost entirely run by the enemy.
So always take that into account.
Amen.
That's all I got.
Larry, thank you so much for coming on and subjecting yourself to, you know, coach's couch.
Not a casting couch, but tell me about your mother, Larry.
You know, where did she figure it out?
No, but sincerely, I appreciate it because I am genuinely curious.
I suspect the audience, at least some of them were for sure too.
How did the religion thing go?
That sounds stupid.
How did the religion thing go?
But are you devout now or are you still searching or just curious on top of all the other questions?
No, I still attend church.
Yeah, no, I still.
Yeah, that's not, yeah, it's not going to change.
Gotcha.
All right, brother.
You got the last word rollo, too, of course.
But yeah, anything else you want to add or tease the show or whatever's on your mind?
Oh, no.
I mean, this was fun.
Thanks for having me on.
I'd love to come back on again.
But yeah, the show we do it on Odyssey.
There's not really a set schedule for it.
The Odyssey channel is just Larry Ridgway.
And there's a bunch of old shows from the first catalog on there.
We post the new shows up there as well.
But yeah, for now, if you want to hear it, that's where it'll be.
When I get the RSS figured out again, I'm going to start posting it back on Americaner again.
Good stuff, brother.
And the most important thing is that you are single and looking to have more kids and settle down with a lovely lady.
So I mean, come on.
You always got to be always be searching, you know, always be eligible.
Out here.
Yeah.
So true.
So true, Coach.
All right.
We're going to get you set up with the fine lady.
You're number two priority after Rolo.
I can't remember all the promises I've made to at least try to help.
Anyway, Larry's single, ladies.
Hit us up.
No, no lewd.
Send those straight to Larry, not to us.
Bless you, brother.
Rolo, did we take the Grumple out of your stiltskin?
For this last hour and 30 minutes, yes.
Don't worry.
The Grumple will go back on right after we stop recording.
I'm sure.
When I tell you, I've got some bumper music I want to use instead of the usual theme, etc.
Yeah, you know, it was, it's, it's, you know, it's slightly different full house, a slightly different Larry.
We're getting older.
It's going to change, folks.
Hope you enjoyed it.
We weren't bullshit yet, if nothing else.
But Rolo, thank you, my friend.
Anything Final Storm?
Please plug.
Well, new episode will be out when it's out.
When do you think the final Final Storm will be?
A year from now?
When the internet goes out?
Five years from now.
Okay.
He's a lifer, ladies and gents.
Final Storm is a great show.
And in case anyone, and nobody knows this, but our most listened to episode to date is the episode with Larry.
There you go.
Really?
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and also, sadly, our least listened to episode is the episode with Coach and Bobby.
I am shocked by that because that was a good episode.
How about the THX 1138 episode?
Do people listen to that one?
Yeah, that one is concurrent with most of our listens.
Our show, it's like we get the same amount of listeners, but the episode with Larry had a huge spike and the episode with Coach is just crickets.
It's a strange figure.
Clearly was in the promotional materials devoted to that episode.
Yeah, was that episode properly promoted and advertised on other places around the internet?
Must not have been.
They were padmat and coach in the description of the episode.
I thought that would just make it more appealing.
I thought they'd be like, well, let's see why.
Let's see why they hate this coaching show.
I made that up, Coach, but you heard it from the horses.
No, I know.
It was a weird experience.
I wasn't used to being on a show like that, but it was fun.
It was all over the place.
All right, fam.
It is a full pink moon.
And yes, we have switched over.
Full House 155 was recorded.
Man, it's been so nice here.
So warm.
April 6th, we started.
It's April 7th.
Now it's Easter Sunday weekend coming up.
Spring break, grandparents visiting.
All eight chicks are still alive after the one flew the coupe and froze.
And I got a lot of seedlings growing in the greenhouse that I'm pretty proud of.
Stick your finger in dirt, put in seed, water, keep warm.
It's magic.
So still working on that.
We love you.
To take us out, Larry, I don't know.
Do you have a song I should have offered you before the show to give you time to think about it?
Is there a song that you really love these days that you want to play?
If not, I got one.
But it's yours if you want.
These days, you can go ahead, coach.
Yeah, you can go ahead.
Yeah, it's not fair of me to be like, well, it better be good or else I've got one here in the hopper.
Tell you what, this is a beautiful country song.
The people who say that country music is dead, you're dead wrong.
This is a song by Chase Rice called Bench Seat.
And it's just beautiful.
You can draw your own conclusions from it.
We love you, fam.
We will talk to you next week almost certainly.
And thanks, Sam.
Larry, of course, for taking the time with us.
God bless your daughter, Larry, and Rolo, my man, for making all this possible as well.
We'll talk to you next week.
Go ahead, Sam.
See ya.
See ya.
But you come a long way since way back when.
Now, one of my favorite things to do is hop in the truck and we just cruise.
And we roll the windows down.
You're right there in that bench seat next to me.
There's a smell of fresh cut grass.
Mr. Reynolds waves as we roll past State Road 44.
First light arise, the best view in Tennessee.
And then say, I saved your life.
Oh, but I know that's a lie between.
And you, me, and a Ben Sea.
Can't beat a Sunday drive, just me and you.
And that's us plus her.
Man, that's pretty cool.
I had a little man and that's a family living at just you and me.
And we roll the windows down.
You're right there in that bench seat next to me.
There's a smell of fresh cut grass.
Mr. Reynolds waves as we roll past State Road 44.
First light arrives.
It's the best view in Tennessee.
And they'll say, I saved your life.
Oh, but I know that's a lie between you, me, and a bench.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
I always knew this day would come.
Just thought I'd be the first called home.
Your little boy and her, don't you worry about them.
I've got them for now.
See you soon, my friend.
And we'll roll the windows down.
You'll be right there in that bench next to me.
There's a smell of fresh cut grass.
Mr. Reynolds' waves as we roll past zero forty-four.
First light arise, the best view in Tennessee.
And they'll say I saved your life.
Oh, but I know that's a lie between you, me, and a bench.