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Many thousands, if not millions, of right-wing or pro-white Americans live with a constant low-level anxiety that at virtually any moment, something that they've said or attended or posted online,
even many years ago, could be used against them by hostile partisans to out them as heretics, get them fired from their jobs, ostracized from so-called polite society, or even subject them to harassment, vandalism, and physical harm.
In most cases, their supposed offenses are entirely free speech-related, non-violent, and would be viewed as virtuous in a healthy society.
And at any rate, would be considered normal just a few decades ago, if not mere years ago.
Call it Cancel Culture or the new Red Guards, or maybe even a dox industrial complex.
The reality is that there is a large and growing network comprised of antifa, commie NGOs, big tech, and big government snoops, snitches, and outrage peddlers conspiring every day to intimidate ordinary people into keeping their true and sincere beliefs under wraps or else.
This week, we are honored to welcome a lawyer working to expose and hold these neo-commissars to account and with the outcome still in the balance.
So, Mr. Producer, let's go.
Welcome, everyone, to Full House episode 130, a few good white men edition, perhaps.
And I am your interrogatory host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of fine guests and a birth panel.
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And with that, we will get Kraken.
First up with us this week, if he ever gets in hot water for his youthful indiscretions during the Kennedy administration, he's got our special guest already on speed dial.
Sam, how the hell are you?
Hey, Coach.
Good to be here.
Hey, I finally caught your interview on White Power Hour.
That was really funny and cool.
Did you listen to that episode?
I did.
I did.
I didn't make it all the way through all the music, but I listened like the first hour or so and love the tunes.
And yeah, just chatting with Mark outside the venue.
It was great.
Well, definitely listen to the end because there's more interviews at the end, and it was quite entertaining what was transpiring there.
But also, I wanted to mention to you that I got in touch with Cyber Nazi, and I think there's a good chance we could have him on the show, and he could talk in his robot voice or whatever.
Sounds good.
Yeah, one of our best musicians for sure.
Good work there, Sam.
All right, we're going to keep moving here.
Next up, his first words after getting doxxed a couple of years back were, what took you a-hole so long?
That's right, the man with less than impeccable OPSEC, but he don't care.
It's Potato Smasher.
Welcome back, buddy.
Hey, good to be back as always.
And yeah, that is true.
It's probably 26 years.
Yeah, it really was just like, I can't believe it took them this long.
Because, you know, it's not that I had bad OPSEC.
I just didn't choose to hide who I was or hide my beliefs.
And it took him that long.
It's funny how guys get zaps.
I know.
There's like no rhyme or reason to it.
Sometimes guys operate in the open and suffer no consequences.
Other guys like make a little peep or a little joke and then they get zapped.
But all right.
Yeah.
Bless you and your family for standing strong amidst yours.
Yours was a little baby tempest.
You handled it with a plum, of course.
All right.
Next.
I have been frantically trying to dox this guy for months now, but nobody is taking the story.
Rolo, how are you?
Well, I broke my toe playing racquetball, but I do think I can go pro.
You deserved it.
All right.
Do quit your day job and go pro on the racquetball court.
I bet you our special guest has played racquetball in the past.
I don't know.
I'm going out on a limb there, but thanks, Rolo.
And I'm joking, of course.
I'm mildly shopping the story, not frantically.
All right.
Finally, our very special and very patient guest.
He is the lead attorney and presumably the owner of the law offices of Patrick Trainor, operating out of Sopranos Country up there in North Jersey.
And he is waging righteous law on behalf of his client in a case that many of our audience is probably familiar with, some perhaps not.
And we're going to get to the bottom of that and the principles and everything behind it that are involved.
Patrick Traynor, welcome to Full House, sir.
Honored to have you on.
Thanks for having me.
Good to be here.
First question, are you accepting new clients?
Always.
All right.
Good to know.
And we do this to all of our first-time guests.
What is your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, if you don't mind?
Irish Catholic, no children.
All right.
Thank you.
Okay.
So there you go.
Laps Catholic.
But I think Laps Catholic is like the default state for an Irish Catholic.
Yeah.
Pretty much Irish Catholic.
It comes baked in the cake.
All right.
So let's talk about this case from the top, sir, if we could.
How did you get involved?
Were you aware of the issues at play?
Or I guess the audience may know that you are suing his doxers.
Your client got fired and doxxed as a result of some work from other people.
But I'll let you explain the case and how you came to be involved, please.
Sure.
But in that particular case, there's 13 clients altogether, 13 plaintiffs I have in that case.
The first one, the first client, I read in the news.
Well, first of all, I'm an old-fashioned civil liberties guy.
You know, live and let, live.
You know, whatever you say just rolls off my back.
I'm not too concerned about, you know, as long as you say, as long as you're not saying I'm going to punch you in the face, I can care less what you're saying.
You know what I mean?
You know, I'm old-fashioned with that.
Threats are, you know, a little different than anything else.
You know, then I mean, I mean direct threats as an imminent threat, as I'm within an arm's length of you kind of thing.
Sure.
So a few years back, I was just reading a few stories and I saw that the New Jersey Department of Homeland Security had designated this one group as a white supremacist, domestic terrorist, violent extremist organization.
What they cited as violent extremism was like a couple flyers left um, you know, left on a car.
That's what uh they, they said it was was uh, domestic terrorism.
And then they, they could not cite to any criminal acts or any acts of violence, not even any acts of you know, so what they call bias against any anybody.
You know, these were just guys that I don't know got together and, you know, went camping, you know wasn't a whole bunch of guys and so, but so it just bothered me that a state law fires are dangerous stuff yeah, but so it just bothered me um, that a state law enforcement organization would um designate uh citizens, as you know, domestic terrorism without any sort of evidence or any sort of not even being convicted of anything,
never mind evidence um, and that's you know.
Again, it goes back to sort of my outlook on on things that the state cannot do, that you know what I mean.
The state can't label people, certain things.
And then, the more I read about this and it's called the NEW Jersey Department OF Homeland Security um terror terror, uh assessment, something to that effect, and they release it every year since, I don't know 2015, 2016 or so, and um, as you read it.
It's a blatantly political document.
There's no other way to put it.
Um, the statistics are laughable.
They're, they're totally impeachable.
And I mean I don't mean complicated impeachable, I mean you can just read them and spend five minutes on the internet and find actual facts.
That'll just totally destroy the facts that this assessment um cites as uh, you know who, who are threats and who are not threats.
You know what I mean.
Um, so that kind of got my and got me sort of involved and I I had communications with one of the guys and that led to the present case.
It sounds extremely similar to what the ADO and the FBI put out every year.
It's not at all far removed from what the ADL puts out.
It's uh, you know, if you read both of them, it's probably copy and paste.
If i'm, if I were to tell you that both of those guys, you know they were written by the same guy, you would believe me.
You, you know, I mean they're very, very similar in context.
You know their layout's a little different, but you know the meat and potatoes is very similar.
Um, not a coincidence.
Who they're blaming, who they're not blaming, what they're overlooking, etc etc.
So it's whatever, it's, just it.
It's, you know, law enforcement should not be political and this was so political that it just irked me.
It, you know, shocked my, shocked the conscience, what it really did.
And then, at the same time, or a little bit before, this was the first time I had ever found out what doxing was.
Um, so I found out, like doxing, I discovered what it was probably 16, 17 in that area, so i'm kind of a latecomer to it and uh, and then, a year or two after the finding out what doxing was, I came across this assessment and they were very, you know, they were very similar and you know, I begun research on doxing and what it was and I and that doxing to me is total bullshit.
Excuse me my language, but it's total bullshit.
Um, it's idiotic.
I don't, I mean, it's just, it's it bothered that I have a rival, I have an unhealthy, um disdain for doxing.
It's it's, you know, doxing.
First of all, doxing is just snitching in a rat cattle tale and uh, hole monitors.
Yeah yeah, I mean and, but then Yeah, but the reality is, just like every other, every other person who's high and mighty, when you start learning about who these doxers are, these are last people that should be pointing fingers at anybody, which is almost always the case.
And one thing about these doxers, you know, you often hear they're affiliated with Antifa, whatever.
These are the one group of people where the stereotypes fit them to a T.
They tend to be upper middle class and beyond over-educated white people and with useless degrees, you know, probably in several degrees at that.
You know, in these, you know, in like these jobs that they've created the title of what they do.
You know, I'm a researcher at this or that, but meanwhile, they're just a trust fund kid is what they really are in a lot of cases.
And my personal background is, you know, what they call shanty Irish, which is just another way of saying poor white trash.
That's the way I was raised.
So when you see these doxers, it tends to be rich white kids attacking poor and working class white people.
And I'm always going to be on the side of the ladder in that case.
So amen, sir.
Yeah.
I'm reading Days of Rage right now, which is about leftist violence in the late 60s and early 70s weather underground.
And it's amazing how many of those agitators and frankly terrorists were from well-to-do families.
Many hilarious.
Yep, many of them were Jews and they lionized essentially violent black felons.
And they even, yeah, they even say many of them have been literally placed in charge of thousands of people and millions of dollars and NGOs and charities.
Oh, yep.
They didn't win by violent revolution.
They just won by slow evolution through the institution.
Patrick, I wanted to ask, you mentioned all those other plaintiffs.
Are they individual cases that are lumped together or were these guys all friends essentially and suffered the same?
Some are acquaintances, but what happened was I filed.
Well, first of all, your people, for those who don't know, when a lawyer files a complaint, the research that is done is for the second step of a complaint.
Because filing of a complaint is not that substantive.
It doesn't have to be.
It has to be a short and plain statement.
That's all a complaint has to be, but you've got to be prepared for how things can lay out.
So we had done a ton of research, and I have some people that helped me with research.
And I kind of knew who some of these guys were just by names and what they were called online.
But once we filed our initial complaint, which only had one plaintiff, I was contacted by a ton of people.
And the people that are that I added, we amended the complaint and added these plaintiffs.
They were all doxed by this one particular individual.
And I'm always, I'm saying one particular individual.
He's the product of many people.
He's the one who mostly published these doxes because he had among the larger and more active at the time Twitter accounts.
So all these people were the victims of this one guy.
So that's how we added these additional guys.
And most of these guys, you would call them proud boys.
But I mean, like, again, same thing.
No criminal history, just regular dudes.
You know what I mean?
No, you know, never did anything that you would consider to be, you know, like dangerous to anybody else.
I mean, there's just guys walking down the street.
Next thing you know, they're, you know, riding in with white hoods on horses.
So Guilty of holding the wrong opinions and convicted in the court of public opinion and suffering very real damages for it.
Go ahead.
Well, these guys were guilty of looking the way they look.
I mean, that was the real problem with these guys is that, you know, they had a, you know, alabaster profile and they voted for Donald Trump.
So those two things really worked against them.
That's what I was going to say is that, I mean, everybody, basically, if you're, if you're a white person and you believe the same thing that your grandfather believed, like you're an evil racist and a Nazi KKK, white supremacist, you know, whatever other buzzwords our enemies want to throw at us.
And it's like, no, we're normal people.
You know, as one of the leaders in, you know, this thing that we've got going on, I mean, I've met thousands of people, maybe even tens of thousands of people at this point.
And the overwhelming majority look like regular normal people.
The weird people that give you the vibes of like this person's a predator or this person is some type of like sexual deviant or whatever, they're not involved with anything that we're doing.
But you see these people online that are doxing people that are like these leftists that are, you know, genissaries of the system, and they are absolute creeps and weirdos.
And it's like, how are you going to attack me for being a normal person?
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, these, you know, the, it's very, these hardcore left-wingers, if you want to call them that, you know, these people that associate or refer to themselves as Antifa and, you know, of that ilk, you know what I mean?
Like real hardcore environmentalists and, you know, this, just the whole faction of left-wing organizations.
What you have to understand about those people, the whole group of people, and they understand it intrinsically amongst each other.
They, they, you have to let them speak because their beliefs, as you're getting to your point about how they, they're not the ones, you know, these are the people that are misfits and misanthropes.
So I'm a big proponent of allowing these people have the stage.
Don't engage with them online so they can scream back at you and call you a Nazi.
Like they'll call me a Nazi tomorrow for talking to you guys, but you know, I've never done anything like a Nazi.
There's not even close to anything about that in my history.
So they have nothing to find on me.
But to your point about who's the unwell person or who's the misfit amongst two people, these left-wingers, you know, as I said earlier, you know, the holier than thou is what they claim to be.
These are the people with, you know, giant McMansion houses using up all this carbon.
These are the people that are, you know, so-called male feminists that are, you know, cheating on her wife with a 17-year-old babysitter or, you know, having a wife and then diddling with, you know, transgender type people, which is a very weird occurrence that of weird frequency amongst some of these people that happens, but yeah, whatever.
But I agree, yeah, these people that do this doxing, well, first of all, you have to accept this is your mindset as a 35 or 40-year-old man is to spend your time on the internet to dox another person.
Like to me, I can't understand that.
Like that, just the fact that you're doing that to me is unrealistic.
You know, I can't imagine you would do that.
But I do know why many of these people do this.
And this is, I have evidence.
I mean, I, you know, I'll go to my grave with this.
I have the evidence.
So I don't care.
Anybody can dispute this.
But what doxers are, doxers are nothing but amplifiers of political messages.
So if you're not following doxing, and I am, because we have a couple of cases, we have a case brewing and we've got several other cases that are sort of in the pipeline here.
It's apparent that doxers have a political goal, whether that's to be to refer to you people as anti-vaxxers.
You know, we doxed this guy because he was an anti-vaxxer.
or we doxed this guy.
But all they're really doing is keeping out a message of left-wing politicos want out there.
So the messages they want out there were wear your mask.
So you saw a lot of doxers doxing people who weren't wearing masks or doxing people who questioned the efficacy of a mask during the pandemic, so to speak.
So, and then on top of that, every dox, no matter who the person is, no matter what the circumstance, comes back to white supremacy, fascists, Nazis.
That's their bread and butter.
So.
Yep, accurate or not, right?
Because just because you're a national socialist or not.
Because you're a white nationalist, it doesn't, yeah, that's, that's canceled.
Yeah.
A white nationalist is just a label they give you to ostracize people.
Supremacist, please.
Yeah.
All those names are just labels they put on people that they want to silence.
They're going to call people that so they can discount your opinions.
So like if you're a guy from like Ohio and you say, man, why are we letting our manufacturing go overseas?
Well, you're a white nationalist because you don't want the Asian guy to get that job.
But, you know, but the whole point of that is that's to protect the rich and powerful who are sending that job over there because they've got an investment in making, you know, not having to pay, you know, whatever, American wage or having to slide with, you know, American labor laws or whatever.
Famous line from a guy, Horace from White Rabbit Radio.
He's been saying this for a long time now.
He says, racist is just a word to make white people shut up.
And he's right.
It's all it is.
It's all it is.
It's really all it is.
None of the guys that I represent or the guys that we may represent, I mean, every one of them is called a white supremacist.
I mean, so it's kind of funny.
And we've done, we've edited all of them.
They've never done anything that's like remotely close to what I would consider to be like white supremacist.
Certainly nobody's a Nazi, for Christ's sake.
I like the term supremist.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, none of my guys, nobody's done anything like that.
That's like, you know, and talks to shut these guys up because they're probably making a pretty good point about certain things, you know?
So shut them up.
And then they get the doxers on you.
Just for our audience's edification, Patrick, too, I mean, I have said I am a white nationalist loudly and clearly for years.
There's nothing wrong that that is not inherently violent.
That is, you know, First Amendment protected speech, even if you say you're a Nazi or a national socialist, that is a political outlook on the world.
And frankly, as Americans, we're also allowed to be fans of whatever historical personages God knows.
The lionizes Mao and Lennon, and they were some of the greatest pitchers of all time.
That's kind of one of the things for me that's like when they're like, yo, we're white supremacists.
It's like, I don't shy away from it.
Like, I'm not going to, you know, be a coward in the face of the enemy.
But in an honest, truthful discussion, like, no, I'm not a white supremacist.
I don't like, I don't want to be around non-whites because of, I mean, honestly, particularly blacks because of the rate of violence and everything and all the problems that come with them.
And these are just factual, fact-based things.
So, like, I don't want to be around them, let alone be in charge of them.
That's ridiculous.
Well, that's the, you know, but if you look at some of the people that are prominent on the left-wing side, they have no problem saying, you know, sort of supremacist things about you based on the way you look.
But my whole point is that if they're calling you, as these doxers do, and these people do, and that's why we started this anti-doxing league, which, you know, they're calling you that to shut you up.
They're not calling you that based on anything 99.99% of the people have ever done.
And if you'll notice that that label is applied broadly to anybody who does something that the left-wing people don't agree with.
Sounds like a deliberate chilling effect on First Amendment speech in America to me.
It is.
It's a Fagazee.
The whole thing's a Fagazi.
That's what they would call it where I'm from.
They don't care about.
Listen, they don't care about any like real beliefs.
They're just like, you know, their belief systems are non-existent because they'll change every day of the week.
They're anti-Nazi, but meanwhile, they're giving $40 billion to Nazis in the Ukraine.
So opportunistic anti-whites and systems do justice.
Their only ideology truly is anti-whiteness and power.
Yeah.
Well, and they feel they can get that by eliminating the white middle class.
That's what they feel.
If they really cared about power, they would empower white people against everyone else because that's where you're going to get real power.
In non-whites, you're just going to get chaos and disorder, especially with blacks and Mexicans.
They worm tough.
They're tough whites.
Yeah, they don't care about power in some having power.
That's what I'm saying.
They care about supporting power.
They care about themselves being in power.
And the only way to do that is by removing whites and their status and power.
Patrick, I got to ask more about the case.
I assume that 99% of good people who get doxxed, you know, you see a range of responses from crawl up into a ball and die or just play it cool and go about your life.
But most people suffer real damages, but do not, but do not, I mean, that's unquestionable, right?
They lose their jobs or they're harassed or their reputation is besmirched.
Well, that's the purpose of doxing.
And, you know, there's no, the purpose of doxing is to harm people.
And what's important to note is that that definition that it's becoming accepted now within the greater public, but we need wider people to understand it.
The purpose of doxing is to harm somebody.
There's no other purpose to it.
There's, you know, that's there's the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, the definition according to those two organizations says that you would dox somebody to cause that person harm financially, socially, or otherwise.
Harass and intimidate.
So yeah, that's what a dox is.
But a dox is a trigger.
So if I got 100,000 followers on whatever social media site, and I say, hey, this is Tom Jones.
Here's his information.
Well, obviously, the majority of those people that follow me, we're all like-minded, you would assume.
And as soon as I say this is Tom Jones, a percentage of these, my followers are going to just attack this guy, whether it's phone calls, emails, social media reviews.
They call that dog piling.
You probably heard that expression.
And dogpiling works in concentric circles.
So first they start with you.
And if that's not effective, then they'll go out to your family members and your coworkers.
And then your family members' employers.
And then you're, you know, so they keep working out and out and out until they reach a tender spot where they can make you lose your job, get kicked out of school.
Some guys have, they've lost their houses.
I mean, outrageous stuff goes on.
Renounce your opinions too.
Some guys, you know, do that, man.
Never do that.
The reality is you got to fight this.
I mean, there's no laying down because they're not going to stop, by the way, because I said earlier, this is not coming from like some, you know, these aren't like people aren't like paragons of virtue where they're just fighting the good fight against Nazis.
They're not solving crimes.
They're not going around searching pedophiles or murderers.
People are criminals.
Well, they couldn't put them in charge of catching themselves.
Come on.
I was going to say.
These are criminals, these people.
I mean, it's just there's, I mean, listen, when they come across information that is not public, whether it's somebody who works for an insurance company who's giving this information to them, sort of, you know, as unauthorized access, or they're straight up hacking into your stuff, it's a crime.
And then when they get up, when they get 200 people calling your employer, tell them, you know, you better fire this guy or we're going to, bloodshed is going to be all over your hands.
You know, you could probably deal with one call like that.
But when you get, you know, 250 calls in a row, like, you know, within a two-hour period, and they're saying we're going to kill him and blah, blah, blah, you can see where it's disruptive and where it's, you know, intimidation and harassment.
You can see it.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
It doesn't take long.
Why are the defendants named in this case?
As I understand it, I'll let you describe it.
All right.
Well, the first guy.
Christian Exu, anti-fetched Twitter, New York Daily News, et cetera.
Well, he is a very prominent doxer.
He's very well entrenched with other organizations, nonprofits.
What I refer to as three, four, and five-letter nonprofits.
He's, you know, he's kind of a networking guy.
He's a good, you know, he's a good mover.
He's probably kind of a bright guy.
He comes from a very wealthy family like a lot of these guys.
So he knows how to move around in certain circles.
But he's just a guy that's a prominent doxer.
He's got a lot of skeletons in his closet, like you would expect.
And he was just a guy that doxed all these people, man, horrifically.
I mean, one guy, his employer got 11,000 calls, phone calls, 11,000.
It's a large, kind of a large employer, but they got 11,000 calls within like a three-day period.
Totally almost shut them all down.
The other guy who got terminated, his termination of employment letter says, you know, we're afraid of a counterattack by Antifa.
That's what it says in black and white.
It's insane.
And he got fired for doing nothing.
30-year guy on his job, never been, you know, never a problem.
30 years on time all the time in a union of all things, shitty union.
And, you know, he got fired so that the company wouldn't suffer a counterattack from Antifa.
Now, what his employer was required to do, which in my opinion, and also the opinion of OSHA, his employer was required to call the police when they were getting threats against their employee, but they didn't do that.
So all my employees, all my plaintiffs in this one particular case we have filed right now, the defendants involved, Exu, Twitter, and Twitter's chief attorney.
And she's involved because she is on the record of saying she's the only person that can decide who will be permanently banned.
And if you didn't know about this Christian Exu, he's been permanently banned like five times.
And in Twitter's own sort of, you know, and their rules and policies, they say that once you're permanently banned, you're banned forever.
You can't get reinstated.
It's a lifetime ban.
There's no coming back.
But somehow this guy is operating, publicly operating, you know, his fourth ban evasion account, what they call it, with 50,000 followers, totally doxing left and right.
And we have complaints that were submitted to Twitter before our complaint was filed saying, hey, this person is a doctor and he used to run this account.
Why are you letting him on?
And then Twitter just ignored him.
And, you know, he actually had friends who are also doctors, by the way, on Twitter that have blue checks, Twitter blue checks.
So it was just an oversight that, oh, yeah, we just didn't catch him on the fifth iteration of his account.
It was clearly a decision made to allow him to catch him.
Well, listen.
It appears so, yes.
It's not like he, listen, it's not like, listen, it's not like he got banned on Monday and then on Tuesday he started an account and had one follower.
This guy was, he was banned.
He was operating an account that had like 15,000 followers.
It was, you know, became known that he was the guy that was permanently banned.
They let him change his account name and then he kept all them followers.
Then he kept on doing the same thing and got up to 50,000 followers.
And he still has that amount, 50-some odd thousand.
They were enforcing no posting, you know, other people's information for a while, and it seems like it went away.
I don't know.
They got tired of it or, you know, it was just for show.
No, they will.
It depends on who you are.
They'll enforce that law.
They'll enforce those rules.
It's just the way it is.
I mean, you saw recently, I don't know if you saw it or not, but there's Project Veritas had some guy on there, a senior engineer, basically coming out and saying, you know, we're biased.
He's basically what he said.
And they are.
I mean, there's lots of ways about it.
Let me say this.
Twitter's chief attorney in the summer of 2019 at some function or whatever.
She said that if you're somebody they consider a white supremacist, a white nationalist, an American Nazi, which I don't know what that is, if you're considered that, if they consider you to be one of those three things, then you cannot have a Twitter account no matter what.
So if you're one of them type of guys that they think you are and you have a Twitter account and all you do is post puppies and rainbows, you never say a word, but put puppies and rainbows, you still can't have that account.
And that's a very odd thing because you figure they have Islamic terrorists, Hindu nationalists, the big narco-state politicians, narco-terrorisms, terrorists are all on there.
The Nation of Islam.
But they have one particular focus on one group of people.
I don't know.
That seems to be a little unnormal to me, put it that way.
I'm curious.
Yes.
We all play lawyers on TV.
You're the real deal.
So, this is, I imagine that this is difficult law.
It looks like your law firm covers a lot of ground.
I mean, there's employment law involved, there's quote-unquote privacy law involved.
Well, it's torts, it's a basic tort.
So, a basic injury, an injury, not basic, but it's tortious interference, meaning that if you don't have a legitimate business reason to come between me and my employer, like if you can't perform my job better or less, you know, less expensive or whatever reason, you can't just go along and interfere with someone's ability to do his job.
In New Jersey and pretty much every state, it's presumed that you have a right to endeavor to perform any sort of legal work.
And, you know, I can't just stop you from performing legal work because I don't agree with you.
You know what I mean?
It's one thing if I have a cheaper widget.
It's another thing if I just think you're an asshole and I'm going to, you know, do whatever I can to separate you from your income.
You can't do that.
That's called tortuous interference.
And but in this case, with our guys, we know that there's a mass conspiracy behind the scenes, which nobody wants to admit, but you know, we have a lot of the links teed up, ready to go.
Put it that way.
You know, we've been fortunate.
We've been approached by some people who were, you know, former true believers who come to us.
You know, I'm from New Jersey, and there's like a pretty aggressive or a pretty large Antifa set between where I live and New Brunswick, New Jersey, which is like kind of the center of the state, and New York City.
And I have a weird connection to the one, the New Brunswick chapter, Antifa.
Let's put it that way.
And it's pretty funny that how closely related I am to one of these guys, not related by family-wide, but just, you know, it's a small Jersey small state.
You know, I grew up, you know, 15 miles from New Brunswick, so you'd be shocked at who you know.
Family members on both sides of the fence.
You never know.
You never know how you know somebody.
Put it that way.
You should be careful with that.
You know, six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon is not that he's not the only one that has that.
Let's leave it at that.
So we were approached by certain people and we kind of know what's going on behind the scenes.
So we'll see what happens, man.
We obviously have a council fight.
There's no two ways about it because they rely on First Amendment.
And, you know, we had to refile our complaint.
The court, and when they denied our claim to complaint the first time, you know, the court said plaintiffs, you know, think they can say anything without punishment without consequences.
And the irony of that is that my plaintiffs, the case is not about anything my plaintiffs have said or did say.
So I don't know where that statement came from, but we're willing.
We're in the fight.
But these doxing cases, as I was saying, what someone said earlier about these doxing cases, about how we would have you go into the show.
But when you get doxed, because doxing right now is, if you've been paying attention or not, it's grown beyond just disclosing the information of somebody who was formerly anonymous.
Now it's growing, grown into, you know, if you're people that are, you know, waiting in line at a Starbucks or whatever, and you get into an argument or an argument over something in a supermarket and they video it and you get carried away or you're, you know, it's a bad moment for you and it gets caught on video.
If certain people don't like the way that that looks, they'll decide to dox you now.
You know, you've heard them call them Karens and all that type of shit.
And this could be two Spanish guys, Miguel Estrada and Carlos Sanchez, get into a beef and they decide that they don't like Miguel Estrada, but they don't know his name.
They'll just find out who he is and then destroy Miguel's life.
Miguel can be like 15th generation from Texas, cowboy the whole bit.
And they'll just destroy his life if they think he's on the wrong team.
And that's what doxing has morphed into.
Still, they do the anonymous stuff.
But now they're going after just weird scenarios.
And when they do that, all those situations all come down to, oh, he's a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, white national.
That's what it is.
Got nothing to do with that.
It's two guys in a coffee shop having an argument.
Next thing you know, there's white supremacists.
It's like that movie from years ago where I see dead people.
These people see white supremacists.
You know what I mean?
That's what they see.
No matter what they do, they see it.
It's idiotic.
It's really insane.
If I could, sir, how is the case going so far?
We had Glenn Allen from the Free Expression Foundation on a couple months ago.
Of course, you're probably familiar with his case where I didn't read the case, but I have heard of that case.
And he went after the SPLC and lost and then lost on appeal.
But, you know, knock on wood, how is this specific case going so far?
Has the court been responding?
No, no, I don't know.
The problem we have is that, you know, they made a horrible argument about free speech.
This is the exu.
I didn't see where that argument applied whatsoever.
I mean, because, you know, remember, a dox is an embedded instruction.
You know what I mean?
So when Exu was doxing people, he knew certain members of his followers were going to just go ahead and do that.
So when we re-filed in our complaint, we inserted, you know, Twitter snapshots of him saying to his people, do me this favor.
Please do this for me.
I owe you one.
Do this.
Don't let up calling his employer until his employer publicly announces that this guy's been fired.
So we inserted a bunch of these screenshots laid out showing exactly what this guy was up to.
And that's pending right now.
We also, you know, I have recordings of like death threats and all kinds of harassing, threatening calls that are made.
So we submitted those recorded calls on a thumb drive to the court.
You know, so hopefully the court will consider those because our whole point is trying to show the link between A, Exu, and what his people are doing, because the calls that we submitted were made the same day that this guy is saying to my client, I'm going to up your life.
Then that day, someone comes to his house, licenses tires, and calls his employer with a death threat.
So that's kind of, you know, kind of related.
You know, things like that.
So we sort of spruced it up and put it in the courts, you know, let the court see it.
And all for the best.
And so we're only hoping for a fair shot here.
Not worth fighting regardless.
Yeah, these are totally worth fighting, man.
People are going to jail for doxing.
If the DOJ comes after you, they're going to jail under a criminal statute 22 USC 875.
So if you're going to go to jail, I can sue you civilly.
You know, that's my opinion.
That's not always the case, but that's basically what I think.
You know what I mean?
If the state can put you in prison for doing this, I can sue you for money for doing that.
That's the way I see things.
But not always the case.
Sure.
But it's a challenge because with these cases, I'm sorry, there's jurisdictional issues, meaning I'm in Jersey.
Some guys are in Pennsylvania or Ohio.
This guy's in New York.
So it's not always clear what court is going to have authority over some of these guys.
And that's the problem we face.
Do your clients have to worry about discovery when you sue somebody else?
Because a lot of our guys, not because they've done anything wrong, or they get, but they might have spicy memes on their phones, or they're worried about their friends getting roped into it, too.
When you sue a doxer, do you then open yourself up to for?
I mean, if these guys lose, are they liable for attorneys' fees and things like that?
What are the risks for going in on somebody?
I can't speak to anybody, but not in this particular case, likely not.
Probably, no, definitely not.
Attorney's fees, rather.
But yeah, whenever you sue somebody, there's reciprocal discovery.
You know, that's obviously the case.
But all these guys got kicked off platform.
They weren't on social media.
They weren't on, you know, they don't have email accounts.
A lot of these guys, they're not allowed to have them.
That's what happened when they got doxed.
They got kicked off everything.
And every time they get down out to have an account, these guys come again and throw them off again.
It's remarkable the sway they have.
So, well, I don't know what they're going to discover with my guys.
They don't have email addresses.
They got kicked off, you know, off social media.
I mean, it's remarkable.
That's the thing.
It's like people don't even see it.
I asked this guy, so what's your email address?
He goes, Oh, I can't have one because, you know, I got when I got doxed, they threw me off.
Yeah.
You salty Irishman, Patrick.
We all were read the I read ourselves the Riot Act to keep our language clean, and you're cursing like a sailor.
Yeah, I'm sorry, but it's just what happened.
It just shocks me.
Oh, it's all good.
It just shocks me.
And I'm not the only one.
I filed this case.
I've spoken to dozens of lawyers all throughout the country who are just shocked at how they get away with this.
It's, you know, it's remarkable.
Nobody else would get away with it.
If you did this to your girlfriend, you'd be in prison for years.
Or your boy, you know, your girlfriend knew the boy, you'd be done.
You'd be in jail forever.
So it's just shocking the way they got away with it.
Yeah, if you do it with sex or sexy pictures, it's a crime.
They do that too, man.
Opinions.
Yeah, then it's that.
They manipulate photos.
They do everything under the sun, man.
These guys are incels.
These guys, these Antifa, they're incels.
There's no choice about it.
There's a lot of weird stuff going on in their organizations, man.
What does the law say about right to privacy, though?
I could see, you know, playing devil's advocate.
Well, yeah, sure, you have the right to express your opinion.
You don't have the right to not suffer any consequences for it.
And you don't have some constitutional right to anonymity or pseudonymity.
I assume that they throw that argument out there.
Is that true?
Or what are the grounds here for in terms of doxing in particular?
This guy goes by this name online and he said this, therefore he's evil.
Fire him and her.
That by itself is probably not a violation or a crime or anything like that, but you've got to look at the intent on why he's doing that and what's the outcome.
Like what's the causal effect of that?
And, you know, I have these clients plus others I potentially may have where we can show that this guy did this at 8 p.m. or one in the afternoon on Tuesday.
By three o'clock, his employer got 600 phone calls.
And we could show that.
So not organic.
Yeah.
No, how's that happen?
You know what I mean?
It's like that's, but the problem we face is that it's not well known.
You know, I've talked to people all the time and they're just like, I never knew this world existed until yesterday.
And I'm like, yeah, it's insane.
You know, that's why we started this thing called the Anti-Doxing League.
It's me and a few other lawyers, not in New Jersey, because no one knows what this really happens to these people.
You know what I mean?
And because I said we do have some jurisdictional issues, nobody understands until it's in their face that what it's like to get 700 phone calls calling you a bastard.
And, you know, we're going to, you know, we're going to, there's going to be blood spilled and all that kind of stuff.
And like I said earlier, you could probably deal with one or two of those kind of calls, but when you get 700 of them and you have no idea where they're coming from, it gets a little unnerving.
You know what I mean?
And then you have people losing their job.
You know, young people, there's been some people that, you know, plenty of stories out there where people were, you know, committed suicide as a result of being doxing.
And, you know, remember, because when you're doxed, you get harassed, you get stalked.
There's violence that comes your way.
Everybody has a story where people, you know, they were doxed and then within a couple of days, strangers came to their house.
My clients had bricks thrown through windows, hire slash, you know, all kinds of things.
Just obscene stuff.
Everyone, they all lose their gym memberships.
That's the craziness.
That's kind of the thing with doxing, right?
It's like they'll say that, oh, well, it's just, it's your, your beliefs are violence.
Your words are violence.
And so it's public interest.
And it's like, well, no, these are just privately held beliefs.
And the argument that like it's public interest, it's like, why?
Most of the people that get doxxed are nobody's.
And I don't mean like in their personal life or anything, but just as far as like any type of national movement goes or whatever, like they're not leadership in some revolutionary organization or whatever.
So it's like not a public figure.
Right.
They're not a public figure.
So it's like, no, the public doesn't have a right to know this guy's, you know, there's no, there's no legitimate public interest here.
You are just attacking him because you don't like what he says.
And then on top of that, it's, I mean, like you said, it's not, it's not actually free speech because everybody knows that the point of doxing is intimidation.
The entire point, I mean, it's just a public shaming ritual, essentially.
And everybody knows that if I take what you're saying and who you are and I put it out there, you're going to be harassed until you stop doing this.
Everybody knows that.
It's undeniable.
They wouldn't dox people if that wasn't the case.
And our guys know that too, but they feel so strongly about their First Amendment and the injustices, actual things that are screwed up in this country that they're like, you know what?
Screw it.
I'm taking the risk.
I'd rather take the risk than shut up and be a mute retard for the system.
Anyway, let me just say this.
They're not going to dox anybody who has power or some sort of position who can fight back.
They're not going to do that.
They're going to try, but it's not going to work.
Not going to work anymore, especially.
So they're going to go after working class guys who don't have the platform to sort of defend themselves.
That's what they do.
But on the same token with that, when they can dox a bunch of 15, 20 guys, every one of those guys is going to be called a white supremacist or a neo-Nazi or whatever, some kind of thing like that.
Now, what they've done is they've created the idea that there's this big white supremacist movement.
They're just volume amplifiers.
And that's a political point that they're trying to make and keep out into the open.
That's a forefront argument they're trying to make.
And the way they do that is by doxing 10, 12, 15 guys who, I don't know, they went to a polar bear plunge or whatever.
They were wearing a black and yellow shirt.
It doesn't matter what.
That enables them to keep an issue in the forefront.
A non-issue, by the way, but an issue in the forefront.
Like, they're not going to attack somebody who has the means, even if it's a nobody, like a no-name guy, but he's got some affluence or some wealth where he could fight back.
They're not going to dox that guy.
They're going to pass that guy and they're going to go find a guy who's a plumber, you know, or some kind of, yeah, he's a tradesman.
He's got, you know, doesn't have 100 grand sitting there to go fight this guy.
So we just think it's nonsense, man.
It's really terrible stuff what these guys do.
You mentioned the fact that a lot of people are surprised that this is a phenomenon in modern America.
And the only historical analog that I can think of is, of course, the House on American Activities Committee, which the left still considers like one of the greatest injustices, right?
Exposing communists in actual positions of power.
Yeah, it's a strange.
And these doxers, when they get doxed or when they, when their information gets exposed, they panic.
They hate it.
You know, they start screaming and hollering, you're threatening my family.
You're, you know, you're going to get me killed.
They lose their mind.
And, you know, it's public interest when I do it.
It's violence when you do it.
Yeah, exactly.
They, but they've never, they don't even consider it violence when they do it.
It's so, it's so bizarre.
Well, and they know, they know that their family is not in any danger when they say it.
Right.
They're just perpetuating their own lie.
Yeah.
Well, that's it.
You got to, but the thing is, what we're doing is, first of all, they want to fight you on social media.
That's where they want to fight you because they have the numbers on social media.
They have the, they can get you kicked off a whole lot way before you can get them kicked off.
Let's put it that way.
So don't have a piss and match with them online.
Just don't do it.
It's not worth it.
I tell people, compile everything they got about, they've said about you and done about you.
Make a nice, neat folder for yourself.
And just start building a dossier, so to speak, on the person and persons that have doxnyed him.
The last thing I tell people to do is to go back at them on social media.
You're going to lose that fight no matter how right you are.
They've got the numbers and they've got the levers of power in that world.
Is there a statute of limitations on doxing damages?
How long do you have?
Well, it depends on the type of injury.
It could be up to six years.
It could be two years.
It could be four.
It could be one year.
The defamation is usually one year.
So slander, defamation, that's usually a one-year statute of limitations.
And that usually runs from the time you were harmed, which is usually a year, but sometimes there's a little bit of a lag because of when it was said versus when it got published.
But don't use that's a year.
But it depends on the type of complaint you're bringing.
Like if it's more of a tortuous interference where they've intentionally harmed your business and you can prove that, now you've got maybe up to six years to bring that kind of claim, maybe four, depending upon the jurisdiction.
So there's a lot out there you can bring.
You know, the real thing we're trying to do with this anti-doxing league is to make it known what it really is.
I call it an embedded instruction, but we're also we've got our own our own researchers and we're trying to what we're doing, and I'm trying, what we are doing is we are, you know, creating profiles on not only the doxers that are doing this, but the persons and organizations that are funding these doxers.
They're political campaigns.
Nobody can tell me otherwise.
So information laundering.
Yeah, the collapse.
Yeah, we're going to expose them people.
We're going to expose the people with the money that are funding these doxers.
That's the goal.
We can embarrass one or two of them or confront one or two of these people that are funding these doxers in the places that where they feel comfortable.
So, you know, if you walk into your, you know, if you're going your way to your golf club or your tennis club or your yacht club and you see a billboard with your face on it, racquetball club, wherever, and you see a billboard with your face on it, and we're saying, why are you paying money to this guy for this reason?
Or, you know, a variety of things like that.
We're challenging you where you live.
We're going to change some attitudes.
No, we're all legal.
We're not going to, you know, we're not going to dox anybody, but, you know, we're going to, we're going to follow the money and then we're going to expose the money.
That's what our real plan is.
Taste of their own medicine.
The website is antidoxingleague.org.
We will put it in the show notes.
Recommend all of our listeners and followers to check it out and certainly consider donating.
Patrick, who do you, who should contact you and when?
Obviously, there's millions of people who are afraid of being doxxed, but what's the point where it makes sense for somebody to get in touch with you?
Well, we're open to talking to anybody because you never know.
Well, you never know.
There's, you know, the facts are there.
I mean, you know, we're that, by the way, that website is a temporary website while we roll out our next, our next edition, you know, website.
But our, you know, with the doxing league, we've got our two goals are to creating an evidentiary file so we know who's doing what.
And then we're also creating a retainer fund so that if a guy from, say, Virginia wanted to call me, I'm in Jersey.
I really can't represent him.
But we want to be able to help him or her retain proper counsel in Virginia and then perhaps share some of our research with that attorney as on a co-counsel relationship.
But for anybody that's being doxed now, I mean, I'm happy to talk to anybody.
We don't care about that.
Because like I said, you never know what the matters are.
Guy who's harassing you could be in New Jersey.
We can go after him right where I'm at.
But, you know, but just it's the abuse, the harassment, the abuse has to be sustained.
It can't be one call that this happened to you, no matter how troubling or damaging it is.
If it's only happened to you like with one call or one email and you got automatically canned or whatever, you're going to have a hard time building harassment cases when that's the situation.
Courts typically want to see some sort of prolonged activity.
There's no rule of thumb, but one or two times, you're not going to be able to get a case heard by a court.
If you've got 25, 35, 50, 100 examples of this one guy coming after you, well, now you got something.
You know what I mean?
Especially if those contacts or those abuses have occurred over 30, 60, 90 days.
This guy just is at you every day.
Now you've got a case.
And by the way, that is common with these situations.
These guys, they do, once they lock on somebody, they just go on.
And another thing, too, what these guys do, which is really awful, once they dox you, right?
And, you know, they might wait six months, five months, and they, when you think you've gotten this behind you, you're on to the next part of your life, it'll come up again, man.
They'll just pop it up on you.
You know, you lost your first job.
Now you got a second job and they get rid of it on you.
And it's like, what the hell?
It's, you know, so many people I've had contacts with that, man.
Conspiracies that deprive people of their livelihoods and their free speech and their pieces and their to be secure in their persons and their property.
Why are you doing interviews, Patrick?
A little bit of a risk, right, to talk about the case, but I guess you know, lawyers talk to the media all the time.
Uh, but you're just trying to get the word out there, and uh, well, yeah, absolutely, we're trying to raise awareness.
We, you know, we've been con in recent months, we've been contacted by a bunch of people.
As I said, doxing has gone on from you know, your local Nazi, and now it's gone going on to the people who are just living normal lives.
Like, I one particular person.
Um, here's an example of what the type of people that are now getting doxed and having their whole lives destroyed.
This person was in nursing school, four-year nursing school.
I've never spoke to this person, but this is an example of how people are getting attacked.
Four-year nursing degree was in like her final month of nursing school, and she put up a TikTok video saying how these masks are not effective against the COVID virus, which, by the way, is apparently a truthful scientific fact.
They're not at all effective against the COVID virus.
Well, that infuriated certain people, and they started a campaign against this girl, and she gets kicked out of nursing school, as far as I know, with a month to go.
What's this girl going to do now?
You know, like no nursing license, no nursing degree, four years of her life, flushed down the toilet.
So, we're doing these, you know, getting trying to get the message out because she's not the only one that's happened to, and that should never happen because the science is on her side, number one, as far as I understand.
But who the hell are you to attack this to do that to somebody?
Like, the idea that you would do that to somebody to me it's profoundly foreign.
I can never ever do that.
And, you know, I know the impact for people like that.
I don't know, man.
Just I said earlier, I have a pathological disdain for doxing.
There's no room for it.
It's really fun.
It's horrible.
It's seen in this.
We call it neo-bolshevism.
It's essentially new commissars going around to patrol thought and opinion.
Yeah, well, they are.
It's political.
They want to keep certain narratives out there.
This narrative, this was part of the anti-vaccine, you know, spiel.
But, you know, these doxers are just old-fashioned schoolyard bullies.
All they are.
Once you get nose to nose with them, they back right down.
They don't like it, man.
Well, you got to bring your goods with them.
You know, you've got to, you know, we keep everything, we make sure our facts are buttoned up very, very tight so we know who's who and what's what.
Because, you know, if you just come at them calling them names, they're just going to, you get belittled right out of the argument.
But we're bringing, we're bringing facts and we're bringing real information about people that's indisputable, that will be indisputable.
We could use some help.
Hopefully you guys, some of your guys can reach out to us.
We're happy to help people because, and I don't care what your persuasion, you know, whatever your story is, you shouldn't be doxxed.
It's really, I mean, it's horrible.
I mean, people have children and parents that are sick.
And, you know what I mean?
It's just, it's so crazy what is going on, man.
It just seems un-American in the old sense.
100% un-American, man.
It is 100% un-American.
It's really bizarre.
Whatever.
And it's, it's, it's when you've seen what I've seen.
One guy's like, I was at a polar bear plunge, and two days later, I lost my job I had for 25 years.
You know what I mean?
Guys, like, I got like my son's in college.
What am I, you know what I mean?
People are just, and that guy was wearing an American flag speedo at a polar bear plunge.
And apparently, yeah, no, it's funny.
And apparently, it was, you know, a back to blue type polar bear plunge.
So that meant he was a Nazi.
The thought process is so perverted that, you know, it's, it's, your people will be like, what?
Normal people are like, what are you talking about?
So it's really horrible, man.
All right.
Patrick Drainer, we're at an hour.
I'm respectful of your time, but mostly because I want you to go to sleep so you're ready to fight another brand new fight or a continued fight tomorrow morning, of course, sir.
Thank you.
God bless for taking this on.
Even if I don't agree with your opinions, man, you know, as long as you're not going around hurting people, committing violence, you do should have the right.
And we've talked about this too: why not a law that says you cannot be fired for nonviolent political opinions?
It would go so far to ensure peace of mind.
Well, yeah, we have the First Amendment.
You probably shouldn't need a law.
That's that's you know, they'll say that the First Amendment means that the government won't prosecute you for it.
And it's like, well, to be honest, I'd rather just go to jail for like two years for saying something instead of having my entire life potentially ruined for forever because people continuously harass you until the day that you kill yourself.
And then we would be political prisoners, which would give us amazing clout.
Yeah, right.
Well, not all political prisoners.
Some guys right now that are political prisoners that have no clout.
Yeah, if people learn how to do it, if people learn to mind their own business, what's the point of the First Amendment if I can't say literally whatever I want as long as it's not an actionable threat or within certain parameters?
But I think everybody understands what those parameters are-you know, actionable threats and stuff like that.
As long as it's not anything like that, then why should I be able to be fired?
You know, that's that's ridiculous.
That is a consequence.
There is no free speech if you suffer consequences for the things you say.
Whether it's private or public consequence.
Yeah, I agree with you, man.
I'm like I said earlier, I said at the very beginning, I'm an old-fashioned civil liberty guy.
You know, if long as you're not threatening somebody, you should be able to say what you want to say without repercussions.
Hell yeah.
Not too many of me left out there.
We're a dying breed.
Godspeed.
Patrick Trainor, law offices of Patrick Trainor.
The website is antidoxingleague.org.
Please, fam, go to it, donate, even if it's a buck or two to help these guys.
Get one last thing.
Let me just make one point here.
I'm sorry.
Yes, sir.
My law office and the anti-dox are two separate organizations.
My law offices are my law office.
This anti-doxing league is a 501c4 pending organization.
So we expect to be tax exempt within the next 60 days or so.
But, you know, have the 501c4 granted.
But it's two separate organizations.
I want to make that clear.
I don't want IRS knocking on my door.
Fair enough, sir.
Yes.
I'm just happy that we can finally say support the ADL here on the show and made it.
You know what I mean?
I already say that.
Have a good night.
Great day.
Enjoy your weekend.
Godspeed.
Our break music, of course, Patrick, is going to be Lawyers, Guns, and Money by Warren Zvon.
We got to do it.
All right.
Take care, sir.
You got it, guys.
Take it easy.
All right.
We'll be right back, fam.
This is, of course, Warren Zivon.
He's a Jew.
Yeah.
How was I dunno?
Russian is too I took a little risk.
Send lawyers guns and money.
out of this
Somehow I got stuff between the rock and the hard place And I'm down on my luck Yes, I'm down on my luck.
Well, I'm down on my luck.
I'm hiding in Honduras.
I'm a desperate man.
Send lawyers guns and money.
This shit has hit the fan There's guns and money There's guns and money
Send lawyers guns and money.
Hey, welcome back to Full House episode 130.
So sincerely honored and grateful to Patrick Trainer for making the time for us free.
By the way, when was the last time you talked to a lawyer or got some legal commentary for over an hour for free, fam?
Hopefully, I don't know, not recently.
You haven't needed it.
Regardless, God bless him and whoever is working with him on the ADL, the virtuous ADL.
And like you said, I know that people reached out to the Free Expression Foundation after our show with Glenn Allen, and he said that was absolutely what I wanted people to do.
It's not like you're an imposition on these guys that are basically setting up a service.
And yes, of course, you may become a client one day.
Knock on wood.
We don't want you to need it, but it's good to know that it's there and can't think of a better fight worth fighting than against people who would try to destroy us.
Remember, though, fam, that I have banished destroy your life, ruin your life from our collective lexicon because they don't have that ability.
Only you can allow them to destroy your life.
You are white.
You have presumably a brain, two arms, two legs, and a huge family of friends or, excuse me, future friends out there to support you.
So even if you do get doxed, it's not the end of the road.
It's not my life is ruined.
It's, ah, I got a little excitement in my life, a little challenge in my life.
And I'm dead serious.
Think about it that way.
Plan for it to happen one day.
Eventually, Rollo should be planning more urgently than others.
But seriously, it's what you got to do.
I don't know if you can hear the bullfrogs out there.
The peepers are nice in the early spring.
The bullfrogs are really going at it out there in the pond.
I hear some crickets and lightning bugs sparkling overhead here in the great Appalachian wilderness in this blessed month of May 2022.
I have one great cool story in the hopper.
But before we do that, I don't want to talk about Texas Ouvale Day or whatever it's called and the shooter and stuff like that.
But I figure we had to mention it as current events.
And the only takeaway I had this, and this may sound callous or cold, is that like just seeing the footage and the names, give or take, one or two.
I know there was a beautiful young white girl who was killed.
And of course, I'm not at all pleased.
And my heart goes out to the families, everyone who lost the child that day, but it just looked like another country.
It looked like Mexico.
It looked like a horrible local news from Tijuana or Oaka or anywhere else down there.
So yeah, I guess the current scandal or the really grotesque part about it is whether the cops actually cowered and stayed outside and really let this go on for much longer than it should have, which is, of course, catnip to the conspiracy guys.
But I've seen a lot of, yeah, these colors don't run, comma, comma, or ellipsis, into a building where children are being slaughtered, apparently.
Now, maybe that's a little Latin laziness down there, incompetence, fear, fog of war.
I don't know.
But Smasher Sam Rollo, any takeaways that you can enrich the audience with from God, second mass shooting in a week.
It's like, I mean, one, the county is like 90% Mexican.
There's like cartel problems there and whatever.
But it's just like, obviously, it's horrible.
You know, Mexican, black, white, whatever, like shooting a bunch of children is like just not good, right?
Nobody likes that.
Yeah.
But it's like that's just, it's part and parcel of living in America.
Like this is what happens when you live in America is mentally ill Mexicans shoot up a school full of presumably mentally ill majority Mexican.
Like, you know, what else did you expect?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the typical mentally ill leftists immediately go to shrieking and the gnashing of teeth and the fainting couch over guns.
Again, I mean, yeah, we've been down this road so many times before.
It's talking about like eternal recurrence.
That's America.
Although, oddly, the Islamic terrorism seems to have really just completely dropped off the radar, knock on wood.
I don't know, you know, and it's like if Buffalo was a gay op, then are they really doubling down on the gay ops here to get more momentum on gun control?
I don't think it's going to work.
And if white supremacy was the gay op, then why activate this weird, was it Rollo who said that he looked like Jason Lee?
Or yeah, from the crow.
And I totally, I totally understand why people jump to the conclusion that he was a tranny.
I didn't say that.
He had like lip filler in, so he's definitely gay.
Yeah.
No normal, no normal man looks like that in that picture.
Yeah, would you F me?
I'd F me.
I'd F up some kids at a school, too.
Yeah, sorry.
That was in poor taste, too.
But, you know, it's just weird.
Like, why am I supposed to care about this?
Like, obviously, morally, it's not good, but like, why am I supposed to care, dude?
Like, people can't eat.
People can't get gas.
People can't get jobs.
Like, our country, if you thought it was being destroyed in 2016, like, our country's being, this country, I mean, it's not even a country anymore.
You know, it is being destroyed at an ever-increasing rate.
And it's like, so what's the incentive to care?
Like, okay, a bunch of people get shot.
I don't care because I can't even put gas in my Prius.
Like, more pressing concerns.
Yep.
Same with trying to get people to care about Ukraine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, how could you send your kids to a public school nowadays?
I mean, it's homeschool your kids.
Rolling the dice.
Keep them close.
Keep it secret.
Lord of the rings in the ring.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, it's crazy out there.
We all knew it.
And no, we're never going to support gun confiscation or gun control because crazy people do crazy things.
So keep trying.
I did hear that, you know, Mike was saying, hey, if you know, if your government can't stop this thing from happening, it doesn't have any legitimacy.
And I would just say, be careful there because do you really want to tempt the government with draconian measures to make something like this impossible?
I don't want to tempt that dragon.
I've been saying it for a while that we need to just declare the government of the United States as illegitimate and say that we are the legitimate government of the United States because we're the only people that know that identify the problems and have ways to fix them.
I'm just saying.
And JP Velvet divorce, baby.
Some people think I'm naive or whatever, but even if it wouldn't be perfect, let us just split into left and right.
Diversity worshipers and mostly salt of the earth white people.
Gun respectors versus gun haters.
Baby killers versus baby lovers.
And I suspect, you know, we'd still have a problem with a certain group trying to infiltrate the good guys, but that would be a delightful change of things.
Don't forget the trouser pilots, coach.
I've never heard that one before, Sam.
Trouser.
Oh, the homo.
Is that what homos are called?
Trouser pilots?
Wow.
Yes, sir.
Kevin Spacey was apparently accused today of sexually assaulting four men in England, apparently.
A couple years ago, he was accused of sexually assaulting people, and then he announced he was gay.
Except for him sometimes.
I just couldn't help but think of how Rollo had talked about some of the, you know, in the entertainment industry, how the gay casting couch is such a big thing.
Oh, yes.
I was recently Republican Party.
I was recently given some tips on Kevin Spacey a week ago, but I was like, no one cares about Kevin Spacey.
And then this thing came out.
Sam cares about Kevin Spacey, but he's a big fan.
Well, years ago, he just really liked the movie K-PAX.
I was about to say that.
I really like that movie.
I think that's a good movie.
When I liked that movie and somebody told me, you know, he's a homo, right?
And I was like, no, don't say that.
Don't say that about a Hollywood actor.
None of them are hobos.
Yeah.
Movies are real.
That was a good movie, but, you know, all right.
I got to go back and watch the usual suspects because I really did enjoy Rollo going back and watching LA Confidential.
Great film.
And I suspect all the usual suspects would hold up well too.
In film school, I wrote a very surgical analysis of the usual suspects.
Yeah, I do highly recommend the usual suspects.
There's a window in your studio.
I can see light.
It usually looks like Satan's den in your little setup there.
All right.
I got a new white life here for everybody.
Good day, full house team.
Hmm.
Sounds like maybe a South African or an Argentinian wrote this one.
I'd just like to report yet another wonderful white life in this thing, but this time by proxy.
I've made every effort to let the wives and girlfriends of my friends in these circles get a chance to hold my little children when they're adorable, little bright-eyed babies.
And this is a tree that just keeps bearing fruit.
Sam has given this advice to my friend.
Yet another healthy baby born yesterday to a wonderful white positive German couple, one that would not have existed if not for people like us reaching out and providing the pronatal support that was needed.
So a call to arms then, men.
Thank you.
They call that the new baby smell.
Oh, man.
I saw a dad in the parking lot today with a fat little baby girl.
She was bald and he was doing that thing where he was like kissing her in the neck and pretending and she was giggling and squirming.
I smiled.
I smiled them.
I was like, oh, I wish I had the little, I wish my little ones.
No, I mean, she's perfect as she is.
But anyway.
German couple, like legit German couple.
I don't know.
White positive German couple.
This is coming from down under.
So yeah, I guess they got some krauts down in kangaroo land.
Anyway, he says, throw your cute little ones into the arms of women at every opportunity.
The survival of our race depends on it.
And then in parentheses, he wrote, our race also depends on you listening to the Great Men of Our History podcast at Americonner.org, which I'm a co-host of too.
So do that too.
Cheers, Cobbs, Euro Dingo.
Way to go.
Is he suggesting that you should use your infants to pick up side chicks?
Well, only you would interpret it that way.
He's trying to make new white life by.
How else are you going to do it without side chicks?
Pandemic.
No, it's a pandemic of baby passing.
Yes, that's what we want.
Shameless, shameless plug for his own effort there.
He probably just made up that story so that he could worm in.
Great men of our history at Americonner.org.
There you go.
I gave you two plugs, Euro Dingle.
Gordon put him out to this.
Yeah, probably.
Why are we called Cobbs?
Because of corn cobs?
Is that the origin of he said cheers cobbs?
I don't know what that means.
Yeah.
Well, corn is a New World crop, so maybe.
There you go.
That's it.
I just see that typical Aussie shit poster there with the long nose and the brown skin.
I got caught in cobs.
Jay Hawk wrote in with a homegrown dad joke that I thought was worth reading on air.
Very, you know, A for effort there, Jayhawk.
And he says, hey, guys, our daughter was promoted recently from a chicken watcher to a chicken wrangler and then to a chicken feeder.
It's a progression that's going on in my house as well.
So he said, today I notified her that she was promoted to a chicken tender.
And that's Jayhawk.
Dendees.
Yep.
Be more all right.
Nice Jayhawk.
And then my own progeny, Junior, branching out from D's Nuts setups.
I think he finally got tired of that.
Although Potato got, you know, the O'Reilly jingle, right?
Oh, Riley.
Out of the blue, I think we heard it in the car.
He goes, oh, oh, Rywee, these nuts.
He just made that up on his own.
And then he added the got him.
And because he has, you know, he's got the typical toddler speech impediment, he sounds just like the black guy.
I don't know if you've ever seen the original D's nuts.
It's like some retarded black guy calling his uncle or something.
but then junior it's like the worst the worse it is the better it is you know the worst The worse the bigger stretch, the D's nuts, the better.
Never get tired of it.
My wife disagrees, understandably.
But Junior got me with a good one the other day.
It was, oh, it was a homegrown dad joke, kid-grown dad joke.
He said, hey, dad, what do you call it when two Italians are fighting with each other?
I said, I don't know what, Junior.
And he said, Italian beef.
Because that way, I was making Italian beef.
So he had that on the mind.
Anyway.
All right.
I am.
Yeah, go ahead.
Coach, speaking of that, I don't know if you saw the, I posted a joke.
It was a real dad joke about a father and the son.
They're sitting and they got like a fire going in front of them.
And the son says, Dad, are we arsonists?
And the dad says, yes, we are, son.
We are son.
Yeah, I immediately posted that to the channel.
That was catnip for me.
That came from my son, actually.
And, well, I won't say where he is, but he's over there by Eva Smasher.
There you go.
I would guess I've been thinking about Cobber or Cobb.
I would say that it's probably from Cobber, which is like friend.
That's not just Australian.
It's a corncobs.
Could be.
Yeah, I mean, it could be corn cobs.
It could be Cobber.
I was just trying to think of other connections besides corn cobs.
So maybe, maybe it's not for America, but just friend.
But if it's for Americans, I would guess maybe corn cobs.
I don't know.
We'll go with both.
But thank you for the research.
Somebody finally did research around it.
There's no research involved.
I was literally just thinking about it.
I was like, what words do I know about tracking the old mental archives up there in Smasher's Cabeso?
So baseball, Little League Baseball season is drawing to a close here.
It's almost June.
And of course, MLB is getting in the swing of it, but I couldn't tell you what's going on there.
But I had to unload this cool story.
I had to do it eventually.
And I will try to keep it brief.
But I think anybody who's ever played baseball or been to a baseball game will like this one.
It's from my own personal memoirs.
A little preview once they get written one day.
But 1993, I was in sixth grade.
I was 12 years old.
I was on the Orioles Little League team in Stratford, New Jersey.
And we were a good team.
We probably were like, you know, the best or the second best in the league.
So, of course, we made it to the playoffs.
We proceeded to the championship.
And you know, in little league, how it is, you've got like three, two or three or four really good players, usually the 12-year-olds, a supporting cast of 11-year-olds who are decent but not great.
And then you got the scrubs, the people who bat last and play in the outfield.
So it's the finals for all the glory, all the marbles.
And it's a best of three series.
We win the first game handily.
We're cruising.
Second game, we get cocky and sloppy, and we lose the second game.
So it's down to a deciding third game for the Little League Championship.
And we are down eight to three in the bottom of the sixth inning, which, as all Little League fans know, is the last inning.
We are the home team mercifully.
We think we're doomed.
And I am in the dugout.
We have the bottom of our order coming up to you know, guys who get out almost all the time.
8-3, bottom of the sixth.
And what do I do, impertinent little jerk that I am in the dugout?
But I look up to that crystal clear June suburban sky and I say, God, I know we've had our issues.
If you're up there and you will help us win this game, I'll believe in you for the rest of my life.
Now, what a jerk.
I'll leave it at that right there.
So the first batter up, his name is Dan.
That was his real name.
I won't say his last name.
Barely got a hit all season long.
What does he do in his first at-bat of that inning?
He hits a home run off the center field scoreboard.
This is, I mean, this is like it would be like a midget, you know, running a marathon his first time out.
So we're just like, holy cow, it's eight-four.
The team, we catch up, you know, out here, out there.
We catch up to the point where I'm up to the plate with two outs.
It's probably eight to six or something like that.
And I think I'm going to puke on the plate.
Of course, being myself, I'm not thinking this is my moment of glory.
This is when I could hit a home run, a walk-off home run to win the Little League Championship, which at that age is like the biggest thing ever.
No, I'm just praying that I don't get out, that I get walked or get hit by a pitch, that I'm not the chump that loses this game.
I walk on four pitches, make it the first.
Batter after me, gets a hit.
I end up on third, and it's eight to eight with two outs in the bottom of the sixth inning.
And the pitcher is nervous as hell.
I'm nervous as hell.
The batter is nervous as hell.
Everybody's there.
The stands are full.
The parents are going crazy.
This is high drama in a little suburb.
And I look over to my coach on third base, and I remember his steely blue eyes.
And he just looked at me and he said, Matthew, if you can make it home, go for it.
Because the batter up of the plate was, yeah, he was okay.
So when the catcher threw the ball back to the pitcher, he was too nervous and too preoccupied to look at me.
So I just took off, ran home.
By the time everybody's hooting and hollering, he's going, he's going, he's going.
He's stealing.
Pitcher throws the ball to the catcher.
It's either wild or that doesn't make it.
So I stole home to win the Little League Championship game.
And it was just bedlam.
I have a picture of it somewhere.
I'll maybe put it in the show notes.
And that fam was the crowning achievement of my life, perhaps until I got married.
It was greater than graduating from high school.
I probably didn't shut up about it for like 10 years or whatever.
So apparently you're still talking about it.
Coach.
Yeah.
Coach, I don't mean to take you down a peg, but in 1993, I was married with three children.
And I was 12 years old thinking I was king of the world.
You know what I was doing in 1993?
Just dating?
I was just dated.
I was growing inside of my mom.
There you go.
I guess I still made Polo was robbing liquor stores.
You do.
Don't tell.
Don't find me for my rap sheet.
I don't know if there's a moral to that story, but in all seriousness, like you're down five runs with your worst batters up.
Don't give up.
The story is don't give up and go balls out.
And mirrors.
It's like we're going to do to Jews.
Don't be gay.
Can you imagine?
You know, you guys have seen Little League Baseball.
Like home runs over the fence are very rare, even from the good players.
I have a funny story about a Little League home run.
All right.
Tell it in a second, but I just want like this bean pole who barely got a hit all season long parks it into center field, nailing that clang off the freaking scoreboard to get us rolling.
And then the other one, of course, is what an ungrateful jerk I am because I didn't keep my promise to God.
Assuming that he intervened in that baseball game, yeah, I know, right?
Yeah.
So I owe the big one big time for helping out the Orioles in June 1993.
Sorry, God.
What a jerk.
Go ahead, Rolo.
What do you got?
So I did play Little League baseball.
And when I was nine or 10 years old, one of the kids on our team, he hit one out of the park.
It almost never happened.
He hit it over the fence.
And he rounded the bases.
And then they made some dumb little sidebar.
And then someone walked up to him after he, like, he was in the dugout and they touched him with the ball.
And then the umpire called him out.
And we said, what?
He missed the base.
Yeah, apparently his heel went over third base.
And yeah, he technically, no, didn't touch third base.
It's a 10-year-old who got the ball out of the park.
Yeah.
They took it from him.
I don't think I would have had the heart if I were the ump.
I would have been like, nah, nah, it looked like he looked like he got hurt.
Oh, no, the ump was glad to do it.
Like the ump was related to the coach of the team we were playing.
I think it was his brother or his cousin or something.
It's really funny.
Yeah, Junior's team is so bad this year.
They make the bad news bears look like the 27 Yankees murderers row and all that stuff.
But he's finally off the schneid.
He's getting hits now consistently.
And he pitched a wonderful game, struck out two batters tonight and got a ground ball.
And, you know, it was just amazing.
And oh, what do you know?
He's chattering about the game.
I think that was my best game this season.
I was like, yeah, I think you're right, Junior.
Then soccer, of course, beckons in the fall.
Let me see here.
I wanted there was a debate broke out in the chat the other day about animals and whether they belong in the house.
And you can go a lot of ways with this.
That the classic European, we, you know, evolved in Europe with hounds in our camps and cows in the house on freezing nights and things like that to the obvious that it is an unsanitary insect tick flea spreading couch scratched, slobber, vomit, pea stains, etc.
Abomination.
And that all your cats and dogs and other creatures do not belong in the place where you dwell and sleep.
And I'm a softy, and I just don't have the heart to keep those animals outside.
Smasher, you're kind of, your dogs are outside most of the time, but go to you first.
Yeah, our dogs stay out most of the time, but that's their choice.
Like they just like being outside.
They sleep inside normally.
Sometimes they won't come in.
We let them on the couch and whatever, but like we vacuum our couch.
Like our stuff is all clean.
So I don't know.
For me, I guess a lot of it depends on the circumstance, too.
I don't know if we lost you there, but yeah, I mean, like I've been to Smasher's house, it's very clean, so he's right about that.
He keeps that couch up.
Yeah, the backyard's a total backyard looks like Auschwitz's Imagine Jews look like it, though.
Stocks do a number on it.
I do.
So the yard looks like crap.
And I cordoned off part of the yard and planted some grass seed.
And then it rained.
We got some storms out of nowhere, and all that seed got washed away.
Oh, yeah.
No, I know.
And you get it rough with that hill.
Like the water just wants to run toward your backyard.
We have it's total tick season here.
Like every one of us is pulling one off ourselves daily and watching it die and rubbing alcohol in a little dish on the uh on the counter.
My wife said, Will you please get rid of those ticks?
I'm like, I don't know.
It's kind of like a cool collection of you know things that we've cleansed from our house.
But the dog in epoxy.
Yeah.
It's like Han Solo and the kryptonite carbonite.
Put them in like rock candy, you know, like they have those like suckers with like scorpions or spiders in them like on the way to like Las Vegas or something.
You know, just do that with ticks.
Yeah.
Just find a little amber source on your property, you know, save them for future generations to sugar DNA.
The dog did finally get a chick today.
We've been playing Russian roulette.
We got a shot collar for the dog, but she hates it and she looks depressed when she has it on, so I don't have the heart to keep it on her.
And then the chicks have been free-ranging, and we've all been like bird-dogging the dog.
She thinks she's playing it cool.
She like wanders around the coop and looks at them.
And then when she sees that we're there, like keeping her away.
Anyway, she got a chick today.
It was in her mouth, and dear daughter caught the dog and started freaking out.
The dog dropped the chick, and the chick is okay.
No blood or anything like that.
So I don't know.
I would severely physically discipline the dog.
Yeah, I was not there.
I was at the baseball game.
So I got this all secondhand.
So after this show, what am I going to do?
I'm going to go nestle myself down in those pine shavings and sing a lullaby to the victim.
Like Rolo does every night.
And I, Sam, I rescued a bunny on Friday.
I think that was actually the last time I posted to Telegram.
And it unfortunately did not make it.
I mean, the thing was only probably two weeks old.
It was definitely abandoned.
I did leave it outside for a little over 24 hours, and there was no sign that a mother rabbit had come for it.
And then I guess my mother-in-law found another one sometime at some point this week.
So I think there's just a whole litter of abandoned rabbits making their way out into the world.
But so I was at weed whacking.
Water trip down.
And I don't understand the reference.
It's a fictional book about a rabbit warren where they're anthropomorphized or whatever.
Transmography.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
It's a great book.
Full house indoors, watershed down.
And so I almost hit it with the weed whacker, and it runs towards the fence.
And it's trying to get through to the fence.
The dogs are back there.
I hear them start freaking out.
I'm like, well, little rabbit, you are going to die.
And so I pick them up.
I move them, finish weed whacking and whatever.
And then the next day, it hasn't moved from the spot that I set it down in.
And none of the grass clippings or anything had been just Moved or anything as if you know mother rabbit had come up or whatever.
And I was like, Okay, so you're like alone and you're like a two-week old rabbit.
You're not gonna make it.
And so I put it in a box with some heat and you know, just all the different things.
I furiously start googling like, how do I not kill a rabbit?
And so I do all the things and but he didn't make it.
And so we buried him.
We put a flower on his grave, buried him.
There's actually some wildflowers that grow on the one side of the house and we buried him right in the middle of the wildflower patch.
And big softie.
Did the kids see it and know what was going on?
Yeah.
Yeah, kind of not really.
They were like, he's going to, is he going to wake up?
And I was like, no, he's dead.
And he was like, but he's going to wake up when he gets better.
I'm like, no, he's dead.
He's not going to wake up.
So you didn't stir-fry him?
No, no, not enough there to stir fry.
All right.
And rabbit veal.
Yeah, I am a huge, I'm a huge animal softy.
I would, in another life, I would totally be working with animals.
I thought about it.
I was actually considering going to Africa to volunteer with lions whenever I got out of the army, but couldn't swing that.
Did you see that kids and stuff?
See that footage of the lion at some zoo in South Africa, bite the dude's finger off who was taunting him through the fence?
Yeah, and then they put the lion down and it's like, why don't you put the part?
That's what happens every time these people do this stuff.
They throw their little nigger kid into the cage with the gorilla and then they shoot the gorilla.
It's like, you should shoot the niggers.
You know, you stick your hand in a lion's cage.
For the black.
You put your hand in a lion's cage or a tiger's cage or something, and then it gets ripped off.
It's like, well, that's your fault.
You should pay the zoo more money.
Like this stuff makes me so angry, man.
It's like we punish these, we take these animals and we lock them in cages.
We exploit well-to-do people to take care of them.
And it's hard work.
It's not always safe work.
And they get paid nothing for it, next to nothing for it.
And then if some brown person decides to like break the rules and mess with the animal, you shoot the animal.
And it's like, oh, God, dude, zoos are horrible.
It's like, we still go to the zoo and stuff because the kids like it.
We all like to see the animals, of course, but it's there.
So use it, I guess.
But it's like, God, dude, I just.
Well, it is educational.
In a white society, zoos would be a good thing.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Third Reich still had zoos.
I'm tempted to say that in our new order, we would have zoos, but they would only be for black people rescue.
No, I was not going to say that.
I was going to say for animals that were rescued.
Where else would you put them?
Wow, that's wreckless.
Mariana's trench.
Yeah.
How about way down?
Way down deep.
Sub-Saharan Africa.
That'll do.
Jews to Israel.
Blacks to sub-Saharan Africa.
Hey, send them all to Israel.
Send the blacks to Israel.
Yeah.
Blacks are the real Jews.
Blacks are Jews.
Let's send them all.
I've been saying this for a long time.
All the blacks to Israel.
It's only fair.
Boohoo, six million.
Cry, Jew boy, cry.
Boohoo, six million.
Boohoo the holocaust.
Man, Rolo still hasn't.
Rolo still hasn't gotten those drops.
Shame on him.
That's right.
I voted in a primary election here.
Did I talk about that already on the show where I went into the polling booth and they were the polling place and they were like, Are you a Republican or Democrat?
I'm like, I'm neither.
They're like, sir, this is.
National socialists.
I'm the best of both and not gay.
Are you friend or family?
We're neither.
That's from Wayne's World.
Anyway, but I just, I went out to vote because it was a local thing and there was like a total GOP hack shill empty suit running for Congress against a MAGA Trumpist.
I was like, yeah, in this case, I'll send the signal.
I'll bother to send the signal.
But in our local race, the local guy won by one vote.
I was like, oh, it finally happened.
My vote made a difference.
And they go.
It's literally me.
It's me.
Shame my way.
Oh, yeah.
Wasn't German versus English was decided as the official language by one vote.
That's what they tell us.
I never heard that one.
Yeah, supposedly.
Yeah.
I guess it should be basically.
I'd rather be speaking German.
Well, you think about how that might have, you know, how like we're more culturally closer to England and the Anglosphere versus if we spoke German and how we might have been closer to that country and other things.
It should be Gaylika.
Let's go with that.
If I'm not probing too much, has there been any internal discussions that you could make external about running candidates or running for office from NJP?
No judgment, if not.
And you don't have to answer, of course, but just curious, you know, because that's all.
I think I even asked that in like the first show with Tony and you, you know, like you got to run somebody, even if it's just for dog catcher, you know, proof of concept and all that.
Well, they're going to run me.
There's a, yeah, run you out of town.
We talk about this a lot.
There's a lot of back and forth on it.
We have talked to lawyers about like what kind of organization should we have for this, that, the other.
And like, basically, it's not easy, even at like a lot of the really low levels where you think it would be easy.
Getting ballot access even in like local elections without running as like a Republican or a Democrat is nigh impossible.
And so we're strategizing one on like, how do we even accomplish that?
And then from there, then we can look at, okay, well, where should we be running?
Right.
Because there's, I mean, it's a multi-pronged thing.
Like we figure out how we run and not, I mean, we could, in theory, like just go run a candidate, right?
But what's the most advantageous to us in our narrative?
And, you know, not a huge time and money suck for essentially no gain.
Yep.
Or worse, you know, get blown out.
And then they're like, ah, there's proof your ideology, your ideology is not popular in America.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's like effort versus payout.
You know, are we going to be able to get a thousand signatures or ten thousand signatures or whatever the requirement is to run as the National Justice Party?
Because we don't have a couple million dollars to like just buy ballot access or in every state or whatever it is.
And then, okay, okay, so we can't do that.
So, well, do we run as a Republican or a Democrat or do we just run as an independent?
Like, you know, that's kind of, there's a lot going on there.
And then after that is all figured out.
And even that stuff will kind of depend on the area and what you're running for.
And from there, we also have to determine what are we going to run for?
Where are we going to run?
Who are we going to run?
Because we don't want to run somewhere that would kind of be stupid.
Like, oh, you won, but there was no competition.
What a joke.
You know?
Yeah, because I saw run somewhere and it's like, you don't get any power, but now there's a bunch of like responsibilities that you actually have to take care of instead of like doing political action.
Sure.
I mean, yeah, I'm tempted to say, you know, the symbolism is well, it's not, I'm not giving NJP free advice, but I was thinking about it because this guy, Neil Kumar, ran for Congress.
He was, you know, essentially running in a Republican primary against the GOP incumbent.
And of course, yes, the last name, he's half Indian, half white.
But he, you know, if you looked at his rhetoric, he's pro-Confederate, he's pro-white.
He names the Jew, you know, right on all the issues.
And he got like 20%, something like that, maybe 21%, 22%, a few thousand votes.
He got me, he got blown out, but he raised the flag.
Now, I'm tempted to say how many people gave money to that and put in time and flyers and all the rest of it to get 20% kind of demoralizing.
But, you know.
Well, and that's like, you know, that's just kind of the balance that we have to try and strike.
It's like, you know, it is going to cost money.
It is going to cost a lot of time.
And even if we don't win, like, it can still be a victory.
We just have to make the right decision or at least try to make the right decision, you know.
And so obviously, yes, like we are planning on running candidates, but exactly when, where, and how, we don't know.
That's things that are being actively discussed like all of the time.
Sure.
So stay tuned, I guess.
Just keep that meme going.
Stay tuned.
Because we don't have an answer, but the answer is like, yes.
It's just a matter of the oh gosh.
I know way more about like how this all works now than I ever wanted to, and I still don't really want to.
I just have to.
But basically, like, so it's funny.
There's, there's no such thing as a political party in the United States, technically.
They're just organizations that have a candidate and it's all about money.
It's literally about raising and spending money.
That's all it is.
In Europe, and like you can't, oh gosh, it's like membership organizations and stuff like that.
There's a lot of really complicated and just like gay stuff, the way that America runs.
Like even the Democrats, like you can't be a member of the Democratic Party, technically.
And like you go to the website, their website, and it says how to become a supporter of the Democratic Party.
It doesn't say member, like any of that stuff, right?
In Europe, in most countries in Europe, like you set up a political party and you become a member of that political party and it is like top-down direct leadership where it's very clear and you can have rules that like You know,
it's it makes a lot more sense to like an authoritarian, like Republican-minded, not like American Republican, but like Democrat, you know what I'm saying, Democratic style way of organizing.
And then in America, it's like this completely complicated and expensive shit show that takes like literally hundreds of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to break through to get to get ballot access as a party member.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's it's like millions of dollars to just get ballot access in every state.
It varies on every state, it's a different fee or whatever, but it costs you tens of millions of dollars.
It's like, politics is so out of reach for the average American.
I mean, even for the top, you know, for the upper middle class, like politics is out of reach for you.
Yep.
I was thinking about that too.
I remember going to my Germanic slash Swedish grandmother's at some point when I was like 12 or 13, probably right after I stole home to win the championship.
Oh, you see what I tied it in there?
But regardless, I was like, oh, yeah, maybe I should be a politician.
And she said, nah, you're too honest, which I thought was a nice little jaded, you know, dig from an old lady who was still vested that it's just such a dishonest, nasty game that dissuades good people, like so many industries.
Sam, I wanted to put you on the spot and ask you, what's your biggest regret as a father?
I'll filibuster here or share it because mine comes immediately to head, even though, immediately to mind, even though my kids are young, but give it some thought.
If you could go back and do things differently, what would you do differently?
And the one that comes to my mind, of course, is just, you know, I'm pretty invested in like a hands-on dad, so I'm not going to totally lash myself opus day style.
But, you know, just being more in my phone and in the thinking about the world and brooding rather than just abandoning it and more throwing myself into doing things with kids.
I'm bad with my phone.
I'll say it right there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
I think it's the type of thing, no matter what you do or how well you do, you'll always think about the time, the time you spend.
And I think about, you know, as I think about my own father, I was raised in a way and in a time where no matter how your parents were, there's no way you didn't love your parents.
You know what I mean?
You, you know, and if I was to sit here and expound for a while about my father and okay, bad things he had done and things, yeah, sure, but you know, there's just no way I would ever think poorly of him.
But I think about how really kind of very little that we did together.
You know, we did do some things together, but very little.
And I tried to do a lot with my kids, but I just think it's the human thing that you'll always think of, you know, what could I have done more?
What could I have done better?
You know, and that like some milked more golden memories and quality times and smiles and board games and times at the park and walks.
Yeah, I think that it's just the human condition.
You know, in the best father in the world probably would say, yeah, I wish we could have had more of this time or something.
So I think no matter how well you do, You will always kind of have that feeling.
You know, I've, I've said many times with everybody here, being a parent, it's a bittersweet thing.
You know, there's, there are those things of, you know, oh, I could have done, you know, type things.
And then, and when, when the kids were little, I tried to do a lot of things together, but being the difficult, difficult position that my ex-wife put us in, you know, especially you think like, what, you know, couldn't we have done more?
And I still have a young one here at home.
And, you know, I try to do as much and as most as I can, but you got to work, you know, and you got to, you, you got to do a lot of things in life and, and you need time to rest and have recreation.
And it's, it's tough to balance it all, you know.
And I think in a better type of a society, we would have more like pathways that we would follow, like things that let you know, hey, you're doing the right things, you know.
But in our, in the way we live today, it's you do the best you can and you don't know if you've done the best you could.
There's a billboard near me.
I want to say it's fatherhood.gov.
And of course, I think it's a black father on there with this kid.
I'm going to the father.
Never have father.
Is there really a fatherhood?
Yes, there is.
Fatherhood.gov, National Responsible Fatherhood Clearinghouse.
Is there really a fatherhood?
Really?
Yeah.
I was thinking, I was, you know, like, is the conception that we have is largely Hollywood created, you know, of the dad comes home from a long day of work at the factory or whatever, and he just wants to read his paper and be left alone.
I mean, maybe there's warming up.
I don't even think that's the Hollywood thing.
I think the Hollywood perception of the dad is dad tries to fix anything and he does it all wrong because he's stupid.
That's literally the Hollywood version of the paper.
I think the dad wanting to be left alone when he gets home from work is probably more significantly more realistic than the dad coming home and just being a bumbling retard breaking everything.
Yeah, I think the one's on reality and then the other is the Hollywood wants you to think dad just comes home and is stupid.
Right.
Like when I get home from work, I want to like sit on the couch for like 20 minutes, drink a glass of water, stare at my phone, shot in a beer.
After a shotgun a beer and then after the 20 minutes, like shotgun, ready to go.
His dad touches.
And it's like shotguns of beer.
Because it's like, you know, I got to decompress from work.
I got to get my brain out of work mode and into like normal dad mode and stuff.
And I can't do that while I'm driving.
I just can't because I get stuck behind a boomer or something and then I just like scream while I'm driving home.
And really when I'm driving home, that's when I do all my planning for like what I have to do tomorrow or whatever.
You know, so that's when I like finish up all my work for the day, all my mental work for the day.
And so I get home and then it's like, okay, I just need 20 minutes to like unwind my brain and go into dad mode.
So I totally get the like wanting to read the paper.
A little me time, a little decompression.
Yeah.
And the thought also occurred too is like in this day and age, just being there at home, you know, not being divorced, not being, you know, like just being around is half the battle.
No, that's it.
I mean, I'm coming up on a very just within a few days, 20 years married here.
And yeah, and, you know, I think about that.
My grandfather, when I was very little, I would see him.
He would have a shot and a beer.
You know, I don't know if people think about that or do that anymore, but every once in a while, I'll have a beer out there and I'll say, I think of my grandfather.
Here's a shot and a beer.
I'll drink that shot, chase it down with the bear.
And old, you know, yeah, when you come home, there's certain things you need.
You know, I like to have that shot and a beer once in a while, squeeze my wife's titties.
And I saw it coming.
I knew that was coming.
That's what she said.
True, though.
True.
I mean, that's that makes you feel good.
Those three things in that succession.
Oh, yeah.
I remember being 14 and being like, what do they feel like?
Good God.
What I wouldn't do is.
And they feel good.
Just a touch of boob.
Yeah.
It's about as good for all of our younger listeners.
It's better than you imagine.
It's better than everybody already knows, but I'm definitely a boob.
The first time you make out this right, Smasher, you're with me.
Say again.
You're with me on this then.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm a boob guy.
All right.
All right.
I remember the first time I made out with a girl, I was like, well, that was weird.
And kind of, it wasn't what I expected.
But yeah, the first time you really feel a boob, it's better, better than you imagine.
One of the rare things, magic moment.
I did a very exclusive poll of Full House's greatest friends as to whether they were breastfed or formula fed.
And it was about 75% breastfed, about 25% formula-fed.
They're breastfed, but their moms all smoke and drink.
Drug addicts, yeah.
But, you know, that's, I thought, you know, because at first, well, you know, I realized Sam was formula-fed, Smasher was formula-fed.
I said, man, maybe there's some correlation here with our political views and that stuff.
Yeah, maybe we need to be for formula feeding.
It takes away a little of your humanity to it.
You know, I bet Zoomers are probably one of the most breastfed generations in a long time since the invention of formula.
But, you know, they're getting breastfed by people that are like shooting dope and smoking weed and drinking and doing all sorts of things.
Having vegan diets, having vegan diets and like all sorts of weird stuff.
It's like, okay, so you are breastfed by your crunchy, hippie mom who is high out of her mind and only eats plants.
So what if the franken food cooked up in the Abbott laboratories is better than your mama's breast milk in reality in this sick, fallen world of ours?
Return to tradition, consume factory formula to escape.
Yeah.
I mean, Smasher and coach, you've both met several of my sons at least.
So, you know, they were all breastfed and they're all right on.
Absolutely.
Rolo, any news on the dating front?
Come on, give us a give us a tail.
Yeah, I see you there.
Nothing I want to talk about.
Top secret.
He got a new pair of socks on clearance.
New girlfriend acquired.
What's the best, Rolo?
What's the best dating site that you've used so far?
The one that's returned the most promising candidates.
Craig's black.
At least he didn't say Grinder.
That's not a site.
Serious question.
Come on, help the young guys out there.
We're telling them how great boobs feel.
Guys, I'm not the guy.
What's the best?
What should they go to?
Harmonymatch.com.
Rolo's like a monk.
He doesn't.
I couldn't tell you.
I honestly, I honestly could not tell you which of those sites would be the best.
You know what?
The ones that I've used, they all kind of seem like the same thing.
Like there was no, like, I would see the same people on Tinder that I would see on like Plenty of Fish or whatever when I was using those.
So I don't know.
They all, they all seem to be just like, this is a thing young people use to try to get dates.
So then just everyone goes to them.
What I've heard, and obviously I don't have any actual experience with this, but what I've heard is that all of your dating apps are just for hooking up.
So Bumble, Puff, Tinder, whatever else.
That's all just basically for hookups.
And yeah, you'll get, you know, you'll get decent people every once in a while that make it through and whatever.
But for the generally speaking, it's everybody knows what's going on there.
Right.
And, you know, at the best, it's people that are like throwing the cards against the wall until something sticks, but like every card is still hitting the wall.
You know, and digital meat markets and people are getting less action than ever before.
Go figure.
Yeah.
I can tell you why that is.
That's because one, if you're a guy, the women are going to be more picky.
But if you're a girl, you're going to be overwhelmed with messages and then they just get exhausted and then they tap out.
So like women just are trying to juggle like talking to 50 different guys and then they're done with this.
And if it's a guy, they're probably getting one match for every hundred person that they try to talk to.
So it's just a combination of like you're a guy trying to get with someone that every other guy is trying to get with and being a girl and then everyone's trying to get with you.
So it's just nobody wins, but then they keep going back to it because everyone watches a billion documentaries about how your neighbor's actually going to murder you.
Rolo, do you think your handsome face and sculpted physique is too intimidating to them, or is it the size that scares them away?
I don't show them my abs.
So I don't know.
Maybe that's it.
I'm thinking both.
I think you're doesn't show anybody his abs.
Okay.
All right.
I wasn't lying.
I wasn't lying.
Okay.
When they say you're not supposed to, I don't know what your profiles look like.
Thank God.
But they say you're not supposed to go shirtless, guys, in your dating profiles because that's like over the top.
It's like try.
How about no pants?
I saw that.
I saw that on profile.
I hope that's not a rule because all I do is no pants and then my goats.
Not in the same picture.
Your goats.
Only in the Christmas Islands.
All right.
Let's go around the horn, gentlemen.
Last call for anything you want to get off your chest or we will land this puppy with verybody to press F in the comment section.
RIP to boiled water.
You will be missed.
Udap.
God, dude.
And I.
I got it.
I got it.
Are not allowed to be king of the dad jokes, coach.
RIP to boiled water.
I mean, yeah, well, what's the joke?
What happened two years ago yesterday?
Come on.
Oh, okay.
Sure.
All right.
Fine.
No, no, no, no.
What happens?
What happens when you boil water?
You get it turns to steam missed.
You will be missed.
I thought you were talking about George Floyd because he couldn't boil water.
I thought that's all good.
Wow.
Congratulations.
Yes, George Floyd, two years clean.
That joke.
Yeah, I thought you were saying press F for George Floyd.
Yeah.
I missed it.
Yeah.
See, obviously, Rolo thought Rolo's Rolo is like the decoder.
He's like, oh, no, I get it.
I get it.
He didn't get it.
Turns out it was just some joke.
Yeah.
I don't know what jokes are.
Are you kidding me?
Why don't you ever see pigs in trees?
Pigs can't climb trees.
There you go.
No nuance to that joke.
There you go.
What did Batman say to Robin before they got in the car?
Get in the car.
You've already heard that one.
Don't trust trees, says Dad.
They seem kind of shady.
What's worse than a worm in your apple?
The Holocaust.
I used to tell that one in high school.
I almost think it should be the other way around.
Well, yeah.
Now, now that I know what I know, I agree.
Dad says Forrest Gump's computer password is one Forest One.
I like that.
That's funny.
All right, Femme.
Sammy baby, thank you, sir.
And yes, absolutely.
You've got to put everything in perspective as fathers, right?
Being there, being a good husband and a good father, and present is nine-tenths of the battle.
I mean, I guess you could say not abusive, not addicted to things and stuff like that.
But don't beat yourself up, dads.
There's plenty more you can do, but you're probably doing better than 90% of fathers worldwide.
Yeah, I still want to hear those letters, coach, that we didn't get to.
Those are some good letters.
But, you know, and our guest, Patrick Trainer, he could make Mark from White Power Hour blush with his amount of F words.
Now I remember, Sam, where I posted them in the oh, yeah, here we go, Sam.
So I'm not going to read the long response from the guy with the Mexican wife, although he did make a very nice offer to help guys get jobs in a certain industry.
So in many parts of the country, but here goes.
Yeah, I couldn't find the email, but I posted it in the chat.
Hey, guys, I'm a huge fan of the show, and I've been listening every week for about five months now, and I've managed to go through almost all the older shows as well.
Listening to you all has been informative, uplifting, and inspiring.
I've always wanted a large family and a chance to raise my future white children with the right ideas and values, but never have I been more excited or motivated to do so than I have since I started listening.
And hopefully that process will be starting for me very soon.
Your kids are extremely lucky to have fathers like yourselves to guide them.
What you guys are doing is truly special and helpful for others in our cause.
So thank you for everything that you're doing.
I'm in my early 20s.
I'm a very active, I don't know how much of this he wanted read on the air, but basically he's active in a group and wants to expand his involvement.
And we did immediately pass his contact details on to the appropriate people.
So you know who you are, buddy.
Thank you for listening, and especially to all those young guys out there.
I mean, we cover a lot of ground here, and we have throughout our extended 130 episodes now.
But as a dad, you can't, I couldn't, cannot simply imagine life without my wife and kids.
It no, no, no, not to like lay heavy on so many of our listeners who are not married and don't have kids.
But once you get there, it is true, even more valuable than one free hour of a lawyer's time.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
Getting sappy.
Oh, yeah.
And I got totally misty the other day.
So potatoes are our last child, and you know, we don't have another boy coming up in the house to wear clothes and stuff like that.
And we say, I personally save some of the sentimental items, like the super cute shirt that maybe his big brother wore and he wore and somehow miraculously didn't get stains.
But, you know, there's just stuff that's you're not bringing it to the next evergreen event or NJP to try to give to a family.
It's just, it's not going in the trash.
It's going to goodwill.
And I realized, I was like, oh man, I'm not going to have any more of these size two shirts and cute little shoes and boots and PJ, you know, pajamas and all the rest of it.
And I actually, I almost cried at a damn goodwill bin as I was putting dear potatoes clothes into the bin.
Unless you get another younger wife.
Always keep your options open, gentlemen.
That's what they say.
You want your wife to be excited and think that hubby, I mean, in all seriousness, I did read F. Roger Devlin's Sexual Utopia and Power.
And women want to think that their men have options.
They don't want them cheating, but they want them to be a potential target.
That's right.
Of another woman.
So keep that in mind.
There's a whole type of thing with a certain type of woman where they only go after married guys.
Where would one meet these?
No, that is true.
I have a friend who's married now, but he used to, after he got divorced from his wife, he used to put on his wedding ring.
Yeah.
And he used to always pick chicks up.
Rolo, get a wedding ring and just wear it.
Good idea.
That's much cheaper than any other options.
Apparently, in North Carolina, if you bang a married man's wife, then you can be prosecuted or something for being a homewrecker.
I heard that on the internet today in a chat.
Must be true.
If you saw a screen cap with no link, it was certainly true.
Was it an anonymous person that told you?
No, no.
No, it's anime avatar.
Anime Avatar.
It was Jimmy.
It was Jimmy, who used to go by a different name.
Jimmy said that, I think.
I'm willing to believe him.
I could be, could be making that up.
It could have been some other butthead.
Anyway, Smasher, thank you, buddy.
You were not a mongoose on meth this episode, as Chuck said you were last show on nutrition.
It was nine.
Well, that's, I didn't have the opportunity to be.
I couldn't get an F-word in edge-wise.
I know.
Patrick Jr.
So many F-words going back and forth.
It was hard to get an extra one in.
Imagine a lawyer who's good at talking.
No, I really, I really liked him.
The only thing that irked me was that he implied that he wouldn't defend or that guys would not be worthy of defense if they were actual Nazis or white nationalists.
I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, come on.
Like, do you realize what show you're on here?
Yeah.
Well, no, he knows he knows.
He did his homework.
Yeah.
No, I don't know.
Yeah.
The only promise we made was that we weren't going to use any dirty words in the first half just to not be in the first half, right?
Just in the first half.
Second half, anything goes.
We're going to pay well.
We didn't even say any bad words.
No, that is not true.
Maybe we should say the second half we did.
Did we say the word nigger?
Smasher did twice.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Well, technically, Sam did once.
Oh, I don't, I don't have any like ideological holdups with working with people.
Like, if he, if his thing is, you know, like civil right type, you know, he's all about it, like, then that's like, that's fine.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Use what tools you got, and I'm going to support him until there's a reason to not to.
Cool.
He kind of implied that if those guys were actual Nazis, then they wouldn't have been worthy of defense.
But maybe, maybe I'm wrong.
You know, he said it's a principled thing, but there was, you know, just a little bit of a record scratch there from our perspective, regardless.
I'm not casting shade on the good Patrick Traynor, Esquire.
So Esquire.
You know, go to the ADL's website and donate to them.
That's right.
You heard it here first.
Isolate that, please, Rolo.
I was going to say, I know that that's going to get isolated.
The real AD.
It's going to end up on Kiwi Farms.
Be like, Michael McKevitt supports the ADL.
Jewish Asian.
Obviously.
NJP exposed.
NJP exposed.
Rollo, my friend.
Thank you for cruising with me.
I'm glad that you do have the option to have a little bit of ultraviolet light creeping into your den there.
You fag.
Hey, Rolo.
Thanks for cruising with me, buddy.
Hey, it's dead.
Because you know what's crossing?
Yeah, cruising down the sunset strip in a convertible to check out babes.
That's what cruise is.
You know, you drive down the sunset strip in a convertible.
You know what?
Vixen had a cruising in the late 80s, and those were all chicks.
Okay, so you know what?
Just because fags take something does not mean they get to keep it.
Okay.
They've taken far too much.
We're taking it back.
Are you talking like Donald Trump on purpose?
Yes.
Thank you, Rolo, you big jerk.
Yeah.
Jerk, I'm standing up for you when Smasher's calling you gay.
What else is new?
Anyway, full house episode.
Standing up for him.
Another, another gorgeous May night.
Hot damn.
And thank you for riding with us.
And if you've made it this far, you're even more special to us.
So to all of our listeners out there, sweating to the oldies over a dox anvil that may or may not be hanging over their head.
Hang in there.
And if it does ultimately happen, don't freak out.
Life goes on.
Fight back.
And I believe Patrick Traynor, Glenn Allen, old Wild Rich.
I think Wild Rich out there is still doing legal advocacy for our guys and pro bono stuff and maybe 4 pay stuff.
I don't know.
But it's not over.
It's never over.
It's only over if you allow it to be.
So stay strong.
Keep your head high and don't be a faggot.
Always good wisdom, whatever the topic is.
To take us out this week, please, Rollo, put on a this is this guy's got a big library.
I had never heard of him until a random song came on the radio the other day, and then I went and checked into his library.
His name's John Hyatt, Southerner, not Jewish like Warren Zvon.
And this is called Have a Little Faith in Me.
And I think you'll enjoy it, fam.
The dog is Hallen.
I got to get cracking.
And we love you.
And we'll talk to you next week.
You're on, Smasher.
Sip!
When the tears you cry are all you can believe, Just give these loving arms a try And have a little faith in me when
you're a cigarette of heart, I cannot speak so easily.
Come here, darling, From a whisper.
Start to have a little faith in me And when your back's against the wall, Just turn around and you, you will see I will catch you.
I will catch you far, baby.
Just have a little faith in me And have a little faith in me And have a little faith in me And have a little faith in me And have a little faith in me.
We'll be right back.
I've been loving you for such a long time girl, Expecting nothing in return, Just for you to have a little faith in me.
You see, time is our friend Cause.
For us there is no end And all you gotta do is have a little faith in me.
I said I will hold you up.
I will hold you up.
Your love gonna strengthen us to have a little faith in me.
I said, all All you gotta do for me, girl, is have a little bit of faith in me.