Over the past three or four years, most of our people have grown completely disillusioned by electoral politics.
The ecstasies of Brexit and Trump's upset in 2016 devolved into cynicism and outright hostility after countless disappointments and betrayals.
And this is exemplified by the widespread belief that there is no political solution for our problems.
This is completely understandable when 99% of our politicians are cowards, co-opted, utterly owned by donors, and or outright hostile to even our continued existence.
Yet the game goes on and the countless evils perpetrated upon us are achieved via that very electoral system.
From the endless invasion of our country to an anti-white justice system to endless support for Israel and now chicken hawk war drums against Russia and China.
A certain group of German patriots once decided that political revolution was the path to victory as opposed to armed revolt.
So the temptation is always there to jump back in the fray and support good men trying to do the right thing.
And this week we are honored to welcome hopefully one of the good ones who is running for a seat in the United States House of Representatives to see if our time, sweat, money, and yes, votes are still worth expending in this here democracy.
mr producer let's go
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First up, he hasn't voted in an election since Richard Nixon's 1972 landslide over George McGovern.
Yet, magnanimous fellow that he is, he said he'd give this young feller a fair shake.
Sam, welcome back.
Yeah, Richard Nixon.
I remember those years.
I was six years old, but I did.
So you voted fraudulently in that one.
All right.
I was underage stuck in.
And I voted.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, we just had our Christmas party with our local group here.
Of course, for me, that was an Advent party, but a Christmas party nonetheless.
And so I'm going a little light tonight because, you know, Hara the Dog that bitch is kind of a late one.
But it was a very warm gathering and we had a wonderful grab bag.
And I put in one of the calendars, you know, our people, our year.
I got some of those calendars and I put that as one of my gifts.
And then I also had this t-shirt.
It says dreaming of a white Christmas and it has a Christmas tree surrounded by a bunch of Klansmen and white robes.
Oh, all right, nice.
So yeah, some lucky guy got that.
And then we got a book called Norse Gods.
And I didn't even get a chance to look at it other than the cover because one of my sons snagged it.
I guess it must have been pretty good.
There you go.
Yeah, it was cool to see everybody.
Awesome.
Tell me, honestly, Sam, is there a Christmas tree and or Christmas lights up on your house yet?
No, because, you know, it's Advent for me.
So we have our Advent wreath out there.
We just lit the third pink candle today or rose candle, if you if you want to look at it that way, which is it's kind of like the mid-lent time when they have the, they, they have the rose-colored vestments and the rose-colored motif in the in the church and everything.
It's supposed to signal kind of a letting up, you know, so on the third Sunday of Advent, which is also called like a little Lent, there's a little bit of lightning up.
And so it was a good time that it was the Christmas party was now and then I could feel like I could celebrate a little bit.
But actually, I did go and get the tree today because I've been hearing of these shortages.
Have you heard of that?
Oh, yeah.
And I thought, you know, normally I wait till the end of the season because I can usually jew the proprietor down a little bit because it's, you know, right at the end, everyone has a tree that wants one.
And so they're going to be throwing these trees away.
I can't tell you how many times I've either gotten a free tree or five bucks or something like that.
But I thought, well, I don't want to ruin my chances here.
So I thought, I am at least going to go look and make sure I can get a tree.
So I went to our local place.
And yeah, they had, they didn't have a ton of trees, but they still had plenty of trees.
And so we grabbed one and we leave it outside for a few days or a week and in a bucket of water.
And then we'll usually put up the tree in the stand without decorating or anything and just kind of start to get it ready.
And then within those last few days before Christmas, we put the lights and the decorations and everything like that.
And so it's kind of gets the anticipation of the season.
There you go.
Well, you got hustled by Big Christmas Tree Incorporated.
You know, all these talks about Christmas tree shortages.
Yeah.
I'm sure it's a scam just to get those people out there.
And I realize, Sam, this is our third show in Christmas time, right?
2019, 2020, and now 2021.
So we always talk about some of these same themes.
And we'll get into more of that in the second hour, brother.
And next time, you just need a two-hour nap before showtime and you'll be right as rain.
Yeah.
But yeah, I was afraid, like, were they going to gouge me?
Was this going to be like a $60 tree or something like that?
But no, it was $25.
And I grabbed a thing of ornaments.
And, no, everything was fine.
But maybe it varies probably a little bit where you are.
Sure thing.
Good to go.
All right.
Next up, he has voted in every single federal, state, and local election since he turned 18 in the year 2016.
And impressively, he has written in a certain Austrian corporal for every single race.
True story.
Potato smasher.
Welcome on, brother.
Hey, glad to be here.
I didn't know that there was a tree shortage.
That kind of explains a lot.
Our tree was more expensive than normal and it sucks.
It's like Charlie Brown tier.
And it was the best one that they had.
Pathetic.
It's too young to notice a difference.
Yeah, I know.
It's not too terrible.
It's not like sparse.
It's just short and like not as wide as, you know, they normally are.
It's, you know, maybe only 18 inches wide.
It's wide as point.
So if you think you're trying to get an artificial tree, those are extremely expensive.
I mean, they're a real racket.
We used to have an artificial tree, and I have no idea what happened to it.
Smasher, kudos to you and the entire team at Operation White Christmas laying on us, brother.
I guess people were complaining because there weren't enough gifts to be purchased.
Yeah, I actually had people unironically complaining.
They're like, where's more lists?
We need more lists.
We didn't buy enough stuff for people.
So Operation White Christmas.
We need more poor white children.
Come on, make it happen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I'm trying.
Trust me.
But year two, you know, last year was okay.
It wasn't as big of a deal last year, but we did it.
And this year we got a little bit more traction.
And so we put those first lists out.
And after those first lists went out, I put them out.
I don't know.
I think it was like 11 o'clock at night.
I was in bed.
And I went to bed and woke up and everything had been purchased.
And I had 100 DMs asking, where's the rest of the list?
We need more.
And so we got a bunch of emails in and those lists are actively being created right now, just kind of waiting on responses from people or confirmation for the list, you know, just little things like that.
And because we triple check everything before we put it out so that we don't accidentally miss anything, specifically as far as like the security side of it goes, keeping, you know, their names off of stuff and whatever.
And so we are, they actually might even be good to go right now, but I literally like walked in the door, kissed the kids goodnight and hopped on the show.
So, and if I start going and doing the email and start doing stuff for that, then I just will not participate at all because I'll get sucked into it.
So hopefully by the time you're actually listening to the show, the list will already be out and empty.
Good stuff.
All right.
Very good.
I heard that our special guest actually funneled his campaign funds into buying all those gifts.
No, I'm kidding, of course.
But oh, maybe he bought one or two.
All right.
And real quick, our producer is actually prevented by federal law from ever voting again in this country after a particularly vivid night out in Miami a few years ago.
Rolo, what's going on, brother?
I don't know why I keep saying well myself.
Other than that, thank you.
All right.
You sound like you're underwater.
I don't know if that's your internet connection.
You know, you're supposed to be the expert here, but welcome on.
And I'm happy to tease our guest is like, really, guys?
Like, are you going to let me talk at all?
Don't worry.
We're getting to it, everyone.
But I am going to be coming on Rolo show next Sunday, I believe.
The final storm.
Yeah.
Okay.
There it is.
All right.
How are you going to bust my balls about me being young?
Which fact check, I had been able to vote for four years by the time 2016 rolled around.
Okay.
This is what I have to make all of you guys sound terrible.
Sam is an old man.
You are a little baby.
Yes.
but you're not lying about rollover how come you make up lies about them what the heck man well played well played yeah a little bit of truth and everything how are you gonna bust my balls and then not even wish me happy birthday happy birthday thank you sorry yeah we talked about it on the show that it was coming up i was like a checkbox i don't know no and you know you know you know me i'm i'm very much the type of person that cares a lot about it No, I know.
I forgot another special event recently.
I was like, ooh, cringe.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Too self-involved.
But anyway, let's move on, fam.
Thank you for being with us.
Yeah, no, but for 12 minutes, seriously.
He is our very special and very patient guest.
He's a proud white father, a devout Christian, a U.S. Army veteran, and a recent veteran of several political efforts, including most notably Lauren Witzke's record vote haul in the U.S. Senate campaign in Delaware, and perhaps dubiously the Stop the Steal effort.
We'll talk about that later.
His website is cisco2022.com, and he is Michael Sisko running for Congress from the great Commonwealth, great state of West Virginia.
Virginia is a Commonwealth, not West Virginia.
Michael, welcome to Full House.
Hey, thanks for inviting me, Coach.
You did mention German Patriots.
I did adopt a cat this week.
I named it Eva Brown.
All right.
Good stuff.
Did it just wander onto your porch and you gave it some cat food and that was that?
Well, a friend threw me a birthday party and they happened to have a couple cats wander onto their porch.
So that's, I got, I got coaxed into taking one of the cats.
So.
All right.
Well, hopefully it's a good luck cat for you there, sir.
Michael, lay it on us real quick here at the top.
We're going to dig and probe and throw mud on you and grill you and all the rest of it, but we'll start easy.
What is your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, please?
Okay, well, I am a father of two girls.
I am Orthodox Christian.
According to ancestry DNA, I am 50% English, about 20% Scots-Irish, 16% German, and 7% Russian, and then the rest is Swedish.
All right.
Well, that's a pretty good blend, given the ethnic composition of the state you are aspiring to represent.
Now, I assume you were not raised Orthodox and you're a convert.
Is that true?
That's true.
I converted in 2014.
And how come, if you don't mind me asking?
Well, I was kind of being drawn back, and I had left the Christian faith completely for years.
I just, I got drawn back into it, but I was very kind of confused over hundreds of different denominations, right?
Sure.
So was it the Twitter memes?
No, I wasn't even on Twitter back then, but I just started researching early church history, and that's how I discovered the existence of orthodoxy.
So, yeah, just a and there was a little experiential stuff to that as well.
It wasn't just research to the Holy Sepulchre.
Would you say that there is, were you moved by like the dignity or the solemnity of the liturgy?
Oh, for sure.
Yeah, I actually went to this great country called Israel.
I don't know if you guys ever heard of it, but our greatest ally.
What are you talking about?
Mean that that's what you mean by orthodox never heard of.
But I think we should give them more money and more weapons and do more of their bidding.
It's my gut, my gut.
More of their bidding, a lot more more force.
But uh, but I.
I went to the Holy.
I went to the Holy Sepulchre and I visited um the tomb of Christ and it was, it was the most moving experience spiritually i've ever had, until I went to my first divine liturgy at an Orthodox church.
And it really just experiencing my first liturgy, I was like, this is what I experienced there at the Holy Land.
So that played a role.
Michael, I am like a triad Catholic.
And likewise, you know, we have a very similar liturgy as what you have there.
And I'll just tell this quick little story.
The priest that I used to serve Mass with, he was raised as a Baptist and he was an organ repairman.
And he was doing a repair on an organ at a traditional Catholic Mass site.
And when he saw the Mass, he immediately wanted to convert and become a priest, which he did.
So there is something about being in the presence of that liturgy and being moved by it.
And even myself, back in 1995, I had moved to another city and we were in the homeschooling movement.
And a number of these homeschoolers, they were all attending a traditional Latin Mass.
So I said, sure, let's give that a try.
And I went and me and my wife and my family, the very first time, we were like, this is it.
We want to go here.
And so there's something very moving about that liturgy.
Very good.
Michael, you are aspiring to an office that has such august, esteemed luminaries as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilon Omar, and of course the great child respecter Dennis Haster.
So give us a little bit of background.
I mean, really, you better be a saint.
You think you're going to be a congressman.
A little bit of biography.
Where are you from?
I detect a slight twang in your accent.
Just, yeah, interesting facts about your life getting up to here.
Okay.
While most of my family resides here in West Virginia, I actually was born and raised in Maryland, unfortunately.
But yeah, I. There goes the Maryland vote.
Good job.
Yeah.
Sorry.
I hate Maryland with a passion.
I know what you mean.
I used to live in Silver Spring, and I was so glad when we left there.
But go ahead, that's where I was born.
I was born at Holy Cross Hospital right there.
Oh, man.
A different time than for Silver Spring, even.
Yeah, but yeah, I have a, I guess the, I did real estate for a while.
And that was kind of where I developed these kind of management slash kind of the skills that got me into politics, which as far as running campaigns, because real estate agents are kind of like volunteers.
They're not employees.
So I was a manager in an office and I ended up getting into political pot.
Like I started my own show called Hearth and Fire years ago, of which I think some of your associates were my guests.
John Q. Publius used to come on my show.
All right.
Heard from John in a while but yeah, still big fan of his work yeah um yeah yeah so, and that that kind of got me.
You know I was, I was really in the political theory, especially the old NRX stuff um which, which really that whole world view kind of stemmed out of becoming orthodox as well.
So um, my whole, my whole perspective on how the world worked just just flipped upside down.
But I started doing my show and that led to interviewing normal pop political people.
I ended up interviewing Lauren Witzke, and that that's how I met her when she was.
She was she was just a basically a little Trump activist and I was just grilling her on certain things that I didn't like about Trump at the time, such as his actions in Syria, and but she she came in with this like really compelling story why she supported Trump and I got sucked back into it.
So she goes to Iowa on.
She got hired by Trump Victory and I was like you know what, i'll come help.
So I went to Iowa and I joined Trump Victory as her team leader um, and from there I would give speeches and and I would help the.
I basically manage all the volunteers and run the ground game for Trump in Iowa and a congressional candidate named Bobby Shilling.
He took a liking to my speeches and said hey, i'm gonna make you political director.
I was like okay um, and Bobby Shilling was, Shilling was a conservative or a Republican congressman, correct?
Yes yes he, he came out of like, the TEA Party.
He only served one term and then he carpet bagged to Iowa from Illinois.
Okay, but I, I I kind of viewed it as hey look, this is getting myself in a position where I could potentially, I guess uh, have some influence and maybe push this guy in the right direction.
A little naive honestly, and I also he had like 10 kids and I thought that was pretty base.
But then I ended up getting fired for associating with another good friend of you guys.
I hear you love him as much as Israel, but uh yeah, we'll ask about that later.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah I, I invited Nick to speak at this.
Uh, Lauren had organized this immigration forum in Bettendorf Iowa and um, the Trump, the Trump victory.
People said it was too controversial to have their name on it and and we didn't even advertise Nick they, they were concerned about Scott Pressler um, and so I let my candidate show up, and you know his opponent shows up, so I didn't think it would be a big deal.
And Nick ends up speaking at the end, gets a rounding of vision after his speech and after the QA.
But the next day, the media firestorm starts.
And well, I get fired over retweeting Nick Fuentes.
So I end up just taking credit for inviting him, which isn't entirely true, but that's a long story.
I was trying to prevent the Scott County Teenage Republicans ended up being the official host of the event and they were getting death threats.
And I was trying to save Lauren's job.
So I took credit and I ended up on the front page of the paper that far shilling staffer invites far right speaker, blah, blah.
Well, Lauren ends up getting fired for associating with me anyways.
So I had planned to never, I liked Iowa.
So I got my Iowa license.
I was like, I'm going to be, I think I'll stay.
And Lauren still had her Delaware license.
And I was like, you know what?
GOP.
Let's run you for Senate as a giant troll.
And no kidding.
Yeah, it was initially to the GOP.
And we didn't think we had much of a real chance.
And the only reason we ran for Senate instead of House was because somebody caught wind that she was going to run.
And the guy running for House in Delaware begged us not to run against them.
And the reason he cited was, I already bought my yard signs.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
And so we just went after, we just went after Chris Coons.
And I wrote her platform for her.
And I was the campaign manager for the primary.
And I ended up leaving over some personal issues that ended up getting splattered all over Twitter.
But that's neither here nor there.
She really took off.
And surprisingly to me, the grassroots, we like to make fun of boomers, but they were incredibly receptive to our ideas.
We were able to get in front of them.
And we got, I think the campaign really took off after I got a right-wing watch came after me for, you know, they called me, they made me out to be like her, like Steve Bannon, like her far right connection in the background.
Sure.
And when that, when that happened, the fundraising just like kicked up a notch and it just went and it blew up and it went crazy.
There you go.
Yeah.
That's kind of where I am now.
That's how I got to where I am.
And yeah, and you said that you had checked out of politics for a little bit after that race and then you got the fire again.
You moved, I guess, to West Virginia.
You know, you're sort of a quote unquote carpetbagger, West Virginian by choice, like I like to say, but you do have deep family roots here.
And now you're back in the fight.
You're going for it.
So I got tons of questions.
Sam and Smasher probably do too.
But let's just, you know, one of the elephants in the room is you've been attacked, of course, as all of the adjectives that people throw at the wall, hoping to scare people away from you.
And you caught my eye when a mutual friend of ours said, you know, I endorse Michael Sisko for Congress.
I'm like, all right, what's this all about?
Let me go see who this guy is like excited about.
And I was like, oh, well, that's like right in my backyard.
Interesting.
So, you know, checked under the hood.
You've got a great platform.
I like that the enemy has attacked you before.
That is a bona fide for sure.
And you're not afraid to come on this show, which, of course, you're, you know, they're going to call you every name in the book for this as well.
So bold move, Cisco.
You're going for it.
But I guess that's all leading up to.
So why are you throwing your hat back in the ring after the last tangle?
They've got tons of stuff about Trump and ideology, et cetera.
But why are you back in the ring under your own name, good sir, for yourself, for West Virginians?
Honestly, it was after January 6th, I just, because, you know, I came here just because I have family roots here.
I wanted to kind of just hide in the mountains.
And I took a very blue-collar job that I could live off of.
But after January 6th, it just became clear that everyone.
I just, what's the right way to say this?
You were mad as hell and you couldn't take it anymore.
There's just no, it became clear that there's no voice for real Americans, for rural America, for white America, for people who want to preserve their way of life.
And even the people that went to jail for the man that they love, those people were banned in two.
Yep.
And that's why I'm running because I'm pissed off.
I was pissed off enough to do it again, even though I swore I never would.
I'll ask you about, yeah, go ahead.
I didn't want to leave West Virginia to go find another campaign.
So I just was like, well, screw it.
I'm just going to be the campaign.
Very good.
And you are running for the GOP nomination in what is essentially a new district because West Virginia lost one seat after the 2020 census.
So you're in the newly districted West Virginia second, spanning the northern half of the state, which is, of course, deeply red, white, and rural.
Joe Manchin probably the last Democrat standing for his name recognition, et cetera.
But you are running for the GOP primary, which means probably whoever gets out of that primary will take the seat.
Now, Trump has endorsed your primary opponent, Alex Mooney, who to me just seems like a doughy, empty suit.
He's a Trumpist.
He got the endorsement.
But so you are still running as a Republican, right, in the primary?
Yes.
I've toyed with the idea of running as independent, but it's probably not the most prudent way to go.
Good deal.
And when is the primary vote for that district?
And what are you doing to run?
What's the campaign look like so far?
Sure.
I think it's May 22nd.
I think.
I know it's in May.
I'm having a brain fart with the exact day.
But right now we are gearing up the ground game.
So I have a campaign manager now and it's fundraising still off to a slower start.
You know, I tried to call, tried to call APAC, but they're really not sending me anything.
Very good.
No, but what I'm good at is the ground game and we'll be deploying that over the course of the next four to five months.
All right.
And are you running to send a message or are you running to win?
I have to ask because a lot of these campaigns, you know, end up fizzling and a lot of people pour time, money, tears, effort into these things only to be disappointed.
So what's your game plan here?
You got the killer instinct, the eye of the tiger.
Sorry.
Well, the way I view it is there's no negative outcome.
Also, next, there's, I do think I can win.
I do think that not everyone agrees, but I do, I also think that a four-way with four candidates, I actually have a better shot, especially being once I start getting some more negative media and being a little more polarizing.
The two kind of normal candidates, McKinley and Mooney, they might split that.
They might split the vote and then I might be able to squeak by.
But I mean, if I win, I win.
If I don't, at least I can push the issues where they need to be pushed.
I've already accomplished something that I'm incredibly proud of, which I don't know.
I don't know how you guys feel about the vaccines and stuff, but I did get a law passed here in West Virginia to mandate religious exemptions if businesses require the vaccine.
Hell yeah.
No, we're absolutely against them.
We just are not as solely focused on that like some people are.
You know, a lot of guys think it's a distraction from other things, but it sure as hell is visceral and real for many millions of Americans.
Yeah.
So, I mean, and that was, I have affected policy already.
And so to me, that's a victory.
And if I don't win, but I can keep affecting at least public sentiment on issues and raise awareness for us and just be a voice for our people here in West Virginia.
Then to me, that's a win.
Godspeed.
Well, let's talk about why people should even, you know, aside from your background, your experience, I do want to dig into the ideology a little bit.
But I mean, your platform is at Michael or excuse me, is that Cisco2022.com.
And I'm just going to list off the headlines here.
10-year moratorium on all immigration, support the right to life, protect gun rights, end political persecution, pro-worker, say no to the forever wars, incentivize marriage and family.
Some of that stuff is valid if boilerplate, you know, standard conservative things.
And other others is, of course, right up our alley.
So let's talk about the issues a little bit, if you could.
Why that platform and what are you truly passionate in your heart about with these things?
Well, everything in that platform is, well, other than, I guess, the more boilerplate issues like gun rights.
Yeah, I don't mean to disparage them.
It's just you see that in almost every GOP candidates thing.
So, you know, for us, it doesn't get our hearts thumping, but it's good to cover it all the same.
Yeah.
It's almost like something you just have to include.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Otherwise, they'll ask questions about it.
Yeah, but the rest of it, like the immigration, which, and the family incentive thing is they're tied intimately together.
We're at a hundred-year birth rate low in this country of all demographics, actually, but in particular, obviously, we're concerned with our demographic.
But We have a human capital problem, and the solution for the globalists is to basically replace us with other people.
Now, instead of doing it with our own people, so you have two options: we can either well, because they prioritize profit and corporate profit, right?
Of course, and consolidating resources into a smaller group of elites.
And so, their solution to the human capital problem is: hey, we're just going to import millions of people a year.
And well, I don't want that because that's not preserving my way of life or my values for our people.
And so, what I want is to incentivize us to get married and have children.
So, partly because of that, that whole system that they, you know, the system of usury, the Keynesian economic system has made it incredibly difficult to even afford to get married and have kids.
And so, I just want to tackle the problem at its root.
And I do believe that the core unit of a society is the nuclear family.
And if that's not in good shape, then the nation as a whole is not going to be in good shape.
And so, really, I just want to fix it at the root.
And I think that is ultimately the best weapon that we have against the globalist, globalist elite.
Amen.
Well, you know who else could ask him, Special.
I think you guys are going to tell me who they are.
We don't have to be cute about it, but you know, there is an it's the rootless international Chinaman.
That's right.
Well, we've had a bunch of videos come out of China where they're just like, Hey, uh, we need America to like do something.
So, call the lady with the big nose.
You know, there's somebody else in history, Michael, who cared very deeply about the cost of family formation and domestic birth rates, too.
So, um, just been going through his uh biography or autobiography recently.
Uh, Rolo's got a question, then Sam.
Hello.
Uh, so I don't know anything about your opponents.
I assume at this point that every Republican's campaign is like more gays, more blacks.
But have you considered adopting the closing of pill mills as part of your platform?
Because I feel like that would be uh pretty popular given the current environment.
Uh, yeah, actually, when I when I was on the Litzki campaign, you know, she was actually a recovered addict from opioids.
Um, so we did have that built into our platform with her, and her big thing was long-term recovery solutions for because they work, they like have 76 months to a year program.
Recovery programs work better than like uh, what do they call those clinics where they where they just uh give them this like methadone clinics?
Yeah, those don't work very well.
The um, none of the short-term things work well, but long-term uh programs like Teen Challenge have like a 70 to 80 percent success rate.
Um, so no, no, the opioid crisis is certainly very important to me.
I recognize that.
Um yeah, closing the pill mills seems like a pretty obvious thing to do, honestly.
And holding holding the big pharmaceutical companies accountable for starting the crisis to begin with.
These are the same people trying to sell us vaccines right now.
The Chinese.
Yeah, it's the Rootless International Chinese.
The well-known Chinese Sachlair family.
Oh, Sacklaws.
Yeah.
Sam, go ahead.
The only reason I didn't include it in the like when you when you're kind of crafting a congressional platform, this is just something I've kind of tricks of the trade from being on multiple campaigns.
There's only so many bullet points that you can really get away with.
Like simplicity is kind of the way that you want to push it.
And so I felt at the time when I wrote my current platform, the big tech censorship and the persecution of conservatives seem really urgent.
So I included that one because, you know, it's just, it's just like when I was in the infantry, it was we were always taught to shoot the target closest to you, you know, the threat.
And it seemed at the time pretty urgent.
You know, we won't have a movement if we can't espouse our views.
So good point.
Yeah, there's no shortage of targets in this environment, all worthy ones.
Sam, go ahead.
Question from Michael.
Yeah, well, one of my sons, he was reading about you on the internet and he was very impressed.
And he was telling me some things about you.
And one thing we talked about was there was a question that said, if you could be a fictional character from a story, who would it be?
And I thought your answer was very interesting because you said Elwyn Ransom, which is from C.S. Lewis's space trilogy, which is one of my favorites.
C.S. Lewis is one of my favorite authors, if not my favorite author.
But I have read that space trilogy at least three times, maybe four.
I think fourth one I started reading it again with my youngest son.
But talk about that a little bit.
I thought that was an interesting answer because that is such a great series.
It talks about really the dynamic of good and evil, the way it operates in our world, but in a fictionalized way.
Yeah, yeah.
Honestly, when I think of that series, like I just, that hideous strength is really the book that resonates the most because it's so much of what's going on in our world.
It's almost scary to read it because it's palpable, the influence of evil in this world.
Yeah, exactly.
It basically demonstrates how these bureaucracies just morph into these just these evil entities and how the characters get sucked into it.
I can't remember, what was it?
The main character story, the guy that eventually escaped it.
And then what was his name?
The one who was constantly trying to be in the inner circle and then ended up his wife got him back to ransom.
Yeah, yeah, his name escapes me at the moment too.
Yeah, because in the third book, Ransom is this not quite the main character anymore, but yeah, yeah, his right.
He's yeah, he's getting interacting with this government agency.
It's kind of like taking place in England the story, but yeah yeah yeah, but really I chose him.
It was just kind of a way of saying that I really like this.
The Space trilogy really yeah, that one in the, the Chronicles Of Narnia, we've read countless times.
If there's seven, there's seven books in that series.
I think i've read it seven times, you know, and uh those, those books like Space Trilogy, there's three books in there.
Every time I read, read the, the entire set, a different book was my favorite one.
But I agree with you that hideous strength.
There's something very current about it as in explaining and understanding the way the dynamic of people operates.
Yeah, Michael, which we're seeing now too.
So yeah.
Michael, we call politics fake and gay for good reason.
It's a little bit cheeky and just dismissing it when the reality is, of course, that it matters a great deal.
You know, politics cares about you, even if you don't care about politics.
But here's a concrete example.
Article from Politico about a week or two ago about Sheldon Adelson's widow getting back into the political game after her dear hubby passed away, I don't know, many months ago.
So the gist of it here is that this billionaire heiress will be receiving all of the 2024 GOP congressional or Senate president presidential candidates, presumably even Trump.
And they will also no doubt be kissing her probably disgusting and gaudy ring to solicit her financial support for their candidacy.
So you're going to have literally an Israeli citizen choosing who we get to choose from in 2024.
Trump probably doesn't have to kiss the ring because he's done it six million times already.
But why the hell would a nice guy like you want to get mixed up in a racket like this?
I mean, it's so Jewish money influenced and so media driven.
And so many voters are easily led along by the nose.
It's a dirty game and you seem like a good guy.
I really just wanted to talk about Sheldon Adelson's widow there.
I had to shoehorn in.
That's literally true that an Israeli citizen will basically be judging all of the candidates by how well they kiss her ass.
That's insane.
Honestly, just they all hate me, which makes me that's honestly what makes it fun for me is that all of those people hate my guts.
Good.
And that makes it worth it.
Let it fuel you.
Yeah.
This is like the difference between men and women, right?
Like women, they go to a party if they're underdressed or overdressed.
They feel, you know, ashamed or embarrassed or something like that.
You know, whereas men, we could go into a room full of people.
Yeah, everybody hates me here.
Yeah, I like that.
That feels good.
All right, Michael.
And in that spirit, I have a quote here for you to add more fuel.
This is from a wise man almost a century ago.
The movement must educate its adherents about the principle that struggle isn't to be considered a necessary evil, but rather as desired in itself.
Therefore, they must not fear the hostility of their adversaries.
They must take it as a necessary condition of their whole right to existence.
They must not try to avoid the hatred of the enemies of our people and our worldview, but must welcome it.
Lies and slander are among the manifestations of this hatred.
He whom they revile the most is nearest to us and he whom they mortally hate is our best friends.
So just a little supporting.
Yes, i'm glad you welcome the struggle and that's a lesson that I hope you will educate.
Uh, White Americans, Rural Americans, Republican Christian Americans, that to be hated by this pig system and the people who run it is about the best thing uh, the best thing that anybody could say about you.
Um tomorrow Michael, I uh put you into the office of the president as supreme dictator of these Disunited States Of America.
Give me five things that you would decree on the first day.
You know, you didn't even you warned me about this one.
I didn't even sit to write down the answers.
Well, that's good.
Yeah, speak from the heart.
Yeah um, and the first thing would have to be immigration, the, the moratorium, which would be the first thing.
Yep um, i'd probably deport all the illegals too almost immediately.
Um honestly, the stuff on my platform is like pretty important, the uh, some sort of program to uh the incentivizing marriage and family, getting our birth rate up after, after the proper deportations are done correct um yeah that's, that's kind of important.
So there's three, there's three, let's see other.
Oh um, throw the journalists in prison.
That would happen treason.
Sure, there's four.
I like that one.
Even Specter, especially Specter people, maybe.
Maybe even strikers visit them.
Visit them while they were in prison.
Yeah uh, the fifth.
What should I?
What's the fifth one?
Uh, dissolve Congress, we could do that.
Yeah, all right.
Now, what do you mean by dissolve?
I can ask, i'm okay with like, a hereditary or hereditary Senate.
That's cool.
With an emperor, i'd be okay with that.
All right, don't let that neo-reactionary monarchism slip into this interview, Michael.
It's gonna get more hustled.
Oh, it's all right.
No, but I mean yeah you, you stop the bleeding first, then you go about the healing and then you get get down to business.
Uh I I, I like it.
Um, I wanted to ask about Trump and stop the steal.
So you were, you were like us, you were a Trump supporter 2016, 2017.
You saw or you smelled a rat with serious strikes and so much else, and then you got sucked back into it.
Uh, what's up with that?
Did you have a change of heart?
Was that opportunism?
Um, and are you still a Trump supporter today?
Man, really putting me on the spot here yeah no, wiggle worm.
Honestly I, I did get Kind of sucked back in just with optimism.
Like, hey, you know, because it was kind of hard to tell, you know, how much of this is just his ineptitude, how much of this is willing, like how many of his failures are purposeful, or how many of it is just being impeded by the rats he surrounds himself with, which I mean, which is his fault.
They're all purposeful because it's all his fault.
And America got significantly worse under Trump, specifically for white people.
And it is all his fault.
And it was all purposeful.
I would argue it got better for non-whites.
I said for white people.
I know.
I know.
I'm saying, like, not only did it just get bad for white people, it got good for non-whites.
Well, those two things are like directly related.
Fair enough.
Even black felons in prison.
Yep.
He spared no expense.
White people.
It got harder for white people to vote and it got easier for blacks to vote.
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of the voting rules were state stuff.
But the GOP had enough warning because we were warning them.
The Whitzky campaign, like when they first started the vote by mail thing, we wrote letters to the GOP chairs, especially in Delaware, and they did nothing until about a month before.
And it was obviously too late by the time they, which was just a show, you know, it's just like, hey, look, we tried.
But no, no, I just, I always kind of held out hope that, you know, a second term, maybe a second term Trump would be like scorched earth Trump that maybe punished Trump.
Yeah, that like 2016 would come back.
And, you know, maybe obviously that's not, I don't think that's happening.
Because if 2016 Trump was real and he was endorsing people based off of, you know, actual like America first views, then I would have, I would have gotten the endorsement, not Alex Mooney, who probably paid him.
Sure.
Do you feel guilty or conned by getting involved in Stop the Steal?
I don't know the extent of your involvement.
I know you went to a rally or two, but I'd be, do you genuinely believe the election was stolen?
And looking back on it with the benefit of hindsight, do you think all that stuff that led up to January 6th was a mistake?
Or what's your analysis of it?
No, I do actually.
I do actually think the voter fraud was real.
I think there's enough evidence because actually I was one of the people supplying.
I do still have a network with some of the right-wing geeks out there.
And I was working with the Trump campaign and sending forensic data analysts to the campaign to try and help.
And some of that evidence was what they were presenting to the courts who wouldn't even see it.
So, I mean, I have pretty good.
See, this is another example of kind of like the backstabbing, though, because the GOP and the Trump campaign, they loved me when I was helping them.
But, you know, they won't touch me with the 10-foot poll now.
But, but, no, I do have some fairly, I had access to some fairly compelling evidence that it was stolen.
I mean, has there really been an American election that didn't involve like some large amount of fraud, at least probably since the early 1900s?
I mean, I'm sure, but I don't think on that scale, to be honest.
I mean, I'm not like an expert historian on election theft, but.
yeah i mean same i think the point the point is valid that like there there is nothing exceptional about the election fraud that happened in this election uh except for maybe volume but even then that's not really that big of a deal because it was always going to get to this point no matter what I think the more important point is that, yeah, the election was stolen, but it wasn't stolen from Trump.
It was stolen from white people.
Yeah, what I really, honestly, what really made Stop the Steel kind of special for me was just all of these boomers,
just all of these like Magatards realizing that the system is like the fact that I didn't think our special guest was going to be the one to have to throw a dollar in the square jar instead of us.
That's all right, Michael.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
Two times.
No, just like it was an eye-opening experience for all of these people to realize that, hey, maybe liberal democracy is not the best thing.
Maybe this system is not something to be worshipped and put on a pedestal.
And once people can realize that, then they can start valuing what really matters, which is their people, their nation.
Because what is a nation?
It is a certain people.
And it's hard to get people to understand that when they believe in this kind of mythical system that can just fix all the problem, like unify around an idea, but then they realize that the idea is fake.
Yeah, but a lot of them have not learned a lesson at all because I still see the FJB let's go Brandon flags everywhere.
Trump 2016, Trump 2020 flags.
They are still on the train, even though he looked the other way as his most ardent and now battle-hardened supporters were getting thrown in neo-goolags.
People that were willing to like storm the halls of Congress, which is not what they did, but they were willing to for you.
And you like walked away and pretended like you didn't see it and had nothing to do with it when you could have like pardoned them.
But instead, here they are almost a year later, rotting in prison, being like literally tortured and force-fed, hate whitey ideology and propaganda and being like attacked with chemicals by guards and all sorts of stuff.
Yep.
And he's sitting in Mar-a-Lago and his silk PJs having Mickey D's double quarter pounders brought to him every day for lunch.
The only movie that I still have with Trump is why does he still kind of evoke this visceral reaction from the globalists, the establishment?
I can't quite wrap my head around it.
Why does it have to be real?
Have you ever watched wrestling?
Well, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you really think it's K-Fabe?
Well, do you think Vince McMahon really hated Triple H?
No.
He married his daughter to him.
I think they can genuinely hate Trump for what he inspired.
I mean, clearly they were horrified.
Yeah.
They know that he gets the pulses activated among the white working class, middle class, lower class, the white class, anyone other than college indoctrinated shit for brains, even if they know that he's in on the game and has, you know, Jared Kushner whispering in his ear still.
I know he's maybe on the outs now, but yeah, they can hate him and he can still be a false prophet at the same time.
Rolo's got a question.
I get another one for you here.
It's no surprise, Michael, that none of us and probably the vast majority of our listeners are not America First fans.
We're not Fuentes fanboys.
And the reason for that, and I'll be honest here, is that, you know, he's got game, no doubt about it.
He's talented.
He puts out, I don't know what the ratio is of his, you know, quality content versus cringe stuff where he's celebrating blacks and all the rest of it.
But he tries to put the marker at him at the end of acceptable political discourse and activism.
And everyone to his right is a Wignat cringe Nazi from central casting.
And he could have just done his own thing and let us do our thing, but it wasn't.
So then he gets it thrown back at him.
But are you now or have you ever been a griper, Mr. Cisco?
Well, I mean, I got to be honest.
I am friends with Nick.
He's always been, he's been good to me.
I do think kind of the obviously there's difference in the way that both of you engage and kind of navigate your strategies.
Sure.
I honestly wish that this was Kfabe, to be honest, because I think both sides of this kind of conflict and tension here are useful, in my opinion.
I think that what you do is very important.
And I think that the way Nick goes about things is also a good way of doing it.
And I think it makes a good dual strategy.
Unfortunately, it's not coordinated.
And I just wish that there were less hard feelings between both sides.
I'm kind of in a weird position where I have ties to both.
Sure.
And I like both.
Is he going to endorse you or has he endorsed you or is he going to campaign with you?
He's given me shout outs on his show.
He's spoken well of me.
So yeah, I mean, that's all I really have to say.
I honestly, I don't think he's quite aware of kind of like the massive scale of networking that you guys have been able to put together as well.
I think there's, and maybe honestly, like there should be a bit of KFAB if we, if like, let's say relations were to be mended.
I think that for what he's trying to do with engaging the electoral system kind of in the way that he is bringing people like Congressman Ghostar and whatnot into the fold, it might be smart to kind of have a bit of a KFAB going on.
I wish that is what it was.
And I wish that, well, I hope that someday you guys can kind of mend those tensions.
Yeah, we'll see.
I think an armistice is probably the best you could hope for on that front, but it takes two to tango.
Go ahead, Rolo.
He's been pigging me.
Go ahead.
Better be a good question.
Well, I was, I wanted to throw something else out there, but I'll just not.
So I'll just ask my initial question.
If you believe that the 2020 election was stolen, do you think that you, as an out, like an actual outsider, not a fake outsider like Trump, do you think that the election won't be stolen from you?
Well, I think West Virginia is a bit of a different beast.
But no, the thought has crossed my mind that that's a possibility.
But I also am aware that you can take these people by surprise.
If they don't take me seriously, then it's because when you really look at the massive amount of coordination for the 2020, it was about three and a half years worth of moves that they made.
Like between Google, Google, YouTube, well, they are YouTube.
Google, Facebook, and all these big tech companies coordinating with the AFL-CIO and all these different groups and then getting the state legislative laws changed and then with the mail-in ballots and all these other things.
Yeah, it's possible, but it would take a coordinated effort that if they don't see you coming, then it's too, it's too, it's not something they can do within that they can whip up together in the next six months, in my opinion.
Well, they have yeah, well, and and also like at this point, if they can steal uh a presidential election, like don't they already basically have the resources laid out to just activate and go for it?
Not really, because if you look, it was it was in the key, it was in the swing states.
Um, and I don't think they had anything like that here in West Virginia.
I mean, I know that some yeah, but they'll be ready now because if it's if 2020 was they had to steal that, Trump did his job, he's out, we're not going to let anything like that happen again, business as usual.
And if it's a small thing in West Virginia, they don't need six months, it would probably only take them two weeks to stack that election, if that.
I'd be surprised if they're stealing elections in some of these states.
I mean, you look to where the monkey business was, it was in big cities in contested states.
Uh, just my personal thought.
Know is that an outsider is coming in.
That's all you need to know.
And it's like, okay, that's the one, take it.
Yeah, I mean, and West Virginia has like primarily been run by Democrats until, you know, pretty recently, as far as I understand.
And wasn't it more or less like they all just kind of switched to being Republicans?
Not so much like actual voting in Republicans.
Yeah, West Virginia was a true blue state because of the union vote and Democrat support for unions as recently as the 80s and 90s.
I think the last president to win West Virginia, we talked about this on the thing, was probably Bill Clinton, maybe Al Gore in 2000.
And then, you know, the evolution happened where they realized that Republicans were essentially the party for the white guy, even though that's largely a lie.
Michael, got to ask, Jewish power in America, and I'll phrase this carefully.
To me, it's undeniable that Jews in America are a tiny 2%, 4% at tops minority.
They are fabulously wealthy, immensely powerful, and influential in everything from media to academia to government to big business.
And the cumulative effect of that massive influence is disastrous for white America.
Do you agree with that?
I'm not trying to do a catcha, but that's calling it as I see it.
What's your analysis of, phrase carefully, Jewish power and influence in America?
Well, I think we need to be cognizant of it and direct our policy decisions to mitigate it.
I think there's certainly groups, I mean, certainly as a group, they pursue their own interests.
Ruthlessly.
Yep.
And when it comes in conflict with our interests, then we have to do what's best for us.
So that's that's all I really have to say optically about it.
That's all right.
How about white nationalism as an ideology?
The idea that whites should be as tribal as the Jews and pursue places where we are the controllers of our own destiny.
Is white nationalism a spooky concept for you?
It's bad, because we're what?
I mean, my only concern with the word specifically, honestly, is kind of semantics.
It's just kind of the practical, how do we make that happen?
How do we kind of roll back that here on our continent?
I would have some questions with that.
Certainly, I want to remain, I oppose forced demographic change.
I think we should have our own spaces.
I just don't know.
I just don't know what the implication of white nationalists is as far as the goal is like building.
I mean, wouldn't it, sorry to interrupt, but like, wouldn't it just be as simple as, okay, if we live in America, a democracy of whatever flavor we sort of decide, we are the majority of this country.
This country was founded by white men for white men explicitly.
And so don't we have the right to rule that?
And that doesn't mean subjecting other races to, you know, bad or immoral things.
But why are we not the ones steering the ship for our own good?
Yeah, I just needed that clarification because I think for a lot of people, it paints a different picture.
No, I mean, we're a country that was founded by white people for white people.
Certainly we should remain the majority and we should dictate the terms of our future.
So I can hear.
Sure.
Michael, do you believe that we can write this ship through the electoral process?
I assume that you do since you're running for office, but I bet you most of the listeners think you'd be better off pissing up a rope, as their grandpafathers probably said.
I personally think we're headed toward leftist, complete totalitarian anti-white control with neo-gulags or some combination of collapse and widespread civil conflict.
But what's your, you know, what's your view?
What's coming down the pike and what's your hope?
Yeah.
Well, I think that the left is certainly pursuing this like their version of this utopia.
But it's so insane that I don't think that they're capable of coordinating what they did in the 20th century with the gulags.
I just don't think that they're that.
I mean, certainly there's like the elites at the top, but it just doesn't seem like they have what it takes to be a Soviet Union.
But they are accelerating very brashly.
And I think they overplay their hand.
I kind of lean more towards where you see it just kind of collapsing and then maybe something better rising out of the dust, out of the ashes.
But as I do, I do still believe that it's worth using what we have available to us.
Because I can't predict the future.
None of us really know what the future holds.
And so I don't think that it's prudent to really just kind of have this apathetic approach based on what we think might happen.
And we could be wrong.
We could be right.
We could be wrong.
But this is what we have now.
We should engage what we have now, just like a certain German patriot did after the first effort didn't work.
Yeah, so because just because you don't, we can't predict the future.
We can have all these guesses and whatnot.
And we can even have an analysis based off of the past.
But really, this is what we have.
So this is what we should engage now.
And frankly, it even helps with the other alternatives because there's nothing, there's not too many things in the world that help you build networks, kind of an alternative dissident network as running a campaign like this, honestly.
So I kind of view it as, hey, this is both.
And there is no such thing as a non-political solution because every answer that anyone ever comes up with as an as a non-political solution really is just a different type of political solution.
Political systems are basically proxies for violence.
And so as long as the political system is still there, then it kind of works as a proxy for us for and prevents us from, you know, which is why, which is why they it is a big deal when people lose faith in the system because that does create an opening for potential breakdowns.
But not advocating for that.
Oh, I get it.
Yep.
Michael, would you end all aid to Israel, financial and military?
Yes.
All right.
Would you like to see Jews converted to Orthodox Christianity or other stripes of Christianity?
Yes, actually.
Do you think that would change their behavior?
Yeah, I've seen it.
I have a good friend, Michael Witcough.
He's a convert from Judaism to Orthodoxy.
He's actually the person who kind of peeled the layer off my eyes towards those issues.
So I actually, I think that orthodoxy is the true calling for them, actually.
But I mean, when you really dig into it, a lot of their behavior is rooted in their rejection of logos, which is why they have a very revolutionary fervor, because they're very religious people.
And so what they tend to do is when they don't accept Christ, they tend to apply that religiosity to very extreme non-religious things, which is why you find a lot of them involved in a lot of radical, like far-left politics.
Or they involve, or they apply it to complete degeneracy, like the porn industry or human trafficking or anything else.
Whatever it is.
And so, yeah, I actually think that the core problem is they're kind of living in complete rebellion against Christ.
And I think that's the biggest issue.
I'm not a trap cat, but I would say that a lot of stuff.
I don't know.
There's plenty of atheists and non-Orthodox people or just non-Christians that aren't like out, you know, trafficking children and raping them and pushing drugs on white people and stuff.
And I would just add that I suspect a lot of Catholic listeners would say that the Converso's influence on the Catholic Church was not at all logos embracing, but that the revolutionary spirit persisted.
We have a lot of evidence that they will convert and then just like practice at home and not tell.
Well, that's not a real conversion of heart, though.
So when I.
So how are you going to make that happen?
Well, I can.
That's strictly.
Okay.
Only God can make that happen.
That's not, I pray for their, it's actually in the Orthodox, like our Holy Week prayers.
We literally pray for the salvation of the godless Jews.
So.
Oh, man.
So would you like to, and I'm not trying to do gotcha here, Michael, and I don't want to go too deep down this rabbit hole.
It could be its own show, but would you like to see every human being on earth converted to Christian Orthodoxy?
Of course.
Okay.
Yep.
Yep.
That is the fair enough.
Not just the chosen people.
All right.
Well, would you ban dual citizenship?
Wait, what?
That's a good question.
That's a fair question.
Would you ban dual citizenship?
Oh, yeah.
I don't, I don't think we should have it.
It doesn't make any sense.
Especially for office holders.
Yeah, we certainly shouldn't have any Congress of dual citizenship, whether it's Canada or Israel.
How about circumcision?
Would you ban circumcision if you had the power to?
Well, for medical procedures or for infants?
For infants and in general, yeah, unless you have something growing on your foreskin.
There is something called fimosis, coach, you know.
I had really contemplated this question, to be honest.
We got a couple from the peanut gallery that I, you know, I'm throwing them out there.
I don't want to be unfair.
I did solicit them while boosting your campaign site.
So it's only fair that they, all right, here's an easier one.
Appalachian customs and histories.
How important is that to you?
And how would you preserve those?
You know, fair enough.
You're running from West Virginia.
What is what does West Virginia mean to you?
Well, I mean, there's not many places that have such a distinct culture preserved.
So, you know, I think Have you ever heard of the Battle of Blair Mountain?
Have you ever heard of that?
Yes.
Yes, but go ahead for the audience here.
I think that encompasses kind of the spirit of West Virginia, which was basically a battle between the working class white people, the miners, against these kind of, they actually fought a war between the company.
And then it didn't end until the U.S. Army got involved.
But they kept shooting throughout some bombing.
And then it wasn't until like the actual foot soldiers showed up.
So it was the largest civil disorder in America between the Civil War and now, I think.
Yeah.
And I think that's kind of the spirit of West Virginians.
And it's, it's, it really encompasses just this kind of like this pride of ourselves and our people that I don't think any other place has.
And that's, that's why I decided to come back, well, really, to my, where my family roots are.
How to preserve that?
Well, I think that's ultimately the platform.
True.
When you're preserving your way of life, you have to stop the bleeding.
And that's why I'm running for Congress and not a state office, because that's the only place to really, at least the most influential place to affect immigration.
Amen.
I'll tell you, Michael, I've driven a lot, not enough, but a lot over this great, beautiful state, daytime, nighttime, and just seeing these little hollows, modest houses, and smoke coming up from a chimney and thinking about what the elite would love to do to this place and what they are even now trying to do, which is to flood it with non-white outsiders,
just like they've done to California and New York and so many places in America and all over the world.
It fills me with sadness and foreboding, but also motivation and righteous anger to protect this place because obviously it's not the wealthiest state in America.
It's not the healthiest state in America, but it is a damn proud and kind and good place.
And for that reason, I wish you the best and I think that your motivations and your ideals are well suited to it.
And we hope that you win in all sincerity.
I have a ton more questions for you, but we got to take a break.
Are you down to come back?
We got dad content in the second half, and then maybe we can really pepper you with unfair gotchas to torpedo your campaign.
Game to play too?
Sure.
Do I get a break too?
Yes.
No break for the guests.
We take the break.
You do push-ups until we come back.
All right.
Thank you.
All right.
Yeah, Michael, let's take a break.
Your campaign site, again, and I'll say it right this time.
I had a typo when I first put it out today, is cisco2022.com.
The most important aspect of this is that Sam's wife was very excited about your candidacy because she thought at first that you were the thong song singer, which she's a big fan of that one.
I mean, we got to make some memes.
Sam looks great in a thong.
Well, edible, non-edible, they all work for Sam.
All right.
So go to Michael Sisko's site, cisco2022.com.
Consider supporting his efforts if you like what you heard here.
I did 90% of it in all candor.
But of course, you're not going to have total agreement with every guest.
We didn't even have total agreement with some of our recent guests.
To the break we go, and the song I want to put on for this is called Years of War by Peter Robinson.
It's a great song, and if you listen to the lyrics or read the lyrics, you'll see that it's got the right ethos for what we're coming up against and what we're heading into.
Don't go anywhere, fam.
We'll be right back with Michael Sisko and more of The Birth Panel.
Welcome back
to Full House 111, special edition with actual, real, in the flesh and blood congressional candidate Michael Sisko.
I think the audience got a lot out of him here in the first half, certainly more than you would get out of any other two-bit, false, fake, cowardly, bought and paid for U.S. politicians of both parties.
So be appreciative for Michael and for our efforts as well, of course.
I burned my fingers very badly during the break.
I had a little fire out near the gazebo with the kids earlier today.
We were just sitting around chatting, warming ourselves up.
I told them that they had to clean up the valley because I did not want to see plastic giga.
My mom always called it giga, but basically just toys and crap everywhere.
I said, uh-uh, we're not letting this get out of control.
I've seen too many places where the parents and the kids gave up.
And they're like, well, I guess we live like this now.
So frog marched them into cleanup duty, and then we had a fire to reward ourselves.
And I went out there to stoke it, and that thing was still hot.
Surprised me.
Michael, I neglected before we went to the break to ask what you are seeking or asking for from people right now.
Of course, donations are helpful, and that's at cisco2022.com, of course.
But what else?
Are you going to be seeking on-the-ground boots?
Are you going to be seeking people making phone calls or coming to rallies?
A little bit of the ground game, please.
Yeah, the most important thing is canvassing.
So anybody willing to canvass and also to a lot you can do.
We will be phone banking at some point.
That's a little closer.
I do that a little closer to the election.
But write if you're good at writing.
I could use letters to the editor.
This is if you live in West Virginia.
Of course, come out to my events, which we'll be posting.
Follow me on social media, on Gab, Telegram.
I'm still on Facebook and Twitter, too, somehow.
Nerd.
Yeah, yeah.
I had deleted those after January, and then when I decided to run, I had to make new accounts.
Did you go to the infamous January 6th rally?
I'm even afraid I shouldn't ask, but you stay home that day?
Yeah.
You see, my handlers gave me a heads up.
I'm just kidding.
No, no.
I was actually moving into an apartment that day, so I had wanted to go.
So, and I kind of regret not going, but I'm also glad that I'm glad that I, it's probably good that I did.
Yeah, for sure.
Better safe than sorry.
Sam, you got something delightful in the mail the other day.
Personalized.
Go ahead.
Share that right here at the top.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
Well, we had Clarion and her daughter and Apollo.
Yeah.
Yeah, Apollo.
Yeah.
And we had, that was a great show.
And, you know, I bought their calendar.
Well, they sent me a calendar, and then I bought a couple more, like I was mentioning, gifts.
And, but she had, she had sent a lovely letter with the previous one, but then with these few calendars I bought, she sent another very lovely card.
I'm not up for you guys to see.
The audience don't see it, of course.
But there's a personal note in there, which I'm not going to read, but, but she wrote this ancient Celtic prayer in here, which it's just so many lines.
And so I'm just going to read it here.
In the steep common path of our calling, be it easy or uneasy to our flesh, be it bright or dark for us to follow, thine own perfect guidance be upon us.
Be thou a shield to us from the wiles of the deceiver, from the arch destroyer with his arrows pursuing us.
And in each secret thought, our minds get to we, be thou thyself at our helm and at our sheet.
Beautiful.
Thanks to Clarion and lovely Christmas wishes in this card.
Sounds like something Smasher should have up on the wall in his kitchen.
Not one of those cheesy live, live, love, laugh in this house things, but yeah.
Yep.
And that's at ourpeopleareyear2022.com, if I recall correctly.
It's not too late to get your calendars.
No, definitely not.
They have good service.
You order them, they come in.
And I hope they keep this going for years to come because we need this type of thing.
That's right.
I'd be happy to.
Yeah.
I contributed a few essays or short pieces for that tough editors over there.
Some of them made the cut, no edits or few edits.
Other ones, they were like, nice try coach into the dumpster.
So far as I know, two in my batch here, but they are pretty epic.
And the first one is our pal, John.
I'll just leave it at that.
John delivered his wife's new white life in the parking lot of a McDonald's because they could not make it to the hospital due to road closures.
I think it may have even been COVID related restrictions.
So he did the bit, a beautiful, hearty, chubby baby girl.
And I didn't think John had it in him.
I didn't think he was man enough to do the deed.
But what an amazing story for him and his family.
And congratulations, John and wifey.
Thanks for being great friends of the show.
And really, he even sent a little video of that baby taking her first sort of looks around the world like, what's going on here?
It was so nice.
And what an amazing story to bring one into the world that way, healthily and safely.
Way to go, guys.
Also, our pal, if you thought that was cool, our pal Cody let us know the other day.
Now, Cody knew that his wife was pregnant, had the little positive sign.
It's still early days.
But I guess they went in for the sonogram the other day.
And lo and behold, not one, but two on the way from Cody and his wife.
So they are expecting twins.
And I'll spill the beans.
He said, I think I'm going to puke.
Wifey, I'm sure, is totally rock ribbed and steely about it.
But yeah, Cody was a little taken aback.
They already have at least one.
I promise.
What was that, Smasher?
Oh, I just said, you'll be okay, buddy.
I promise.
Oh, there you go.
Yep.
Go ahead.
Tell them it's going to be fine.
At least you don't have two sets of twins.
Could always be worse or tougher, I should say.
But what an amazing feeling.
Yeah.
Stuff that Sam and I, maybe Rolo will have twins one day.
If he gets out there in the place.
Irish twins.
Okay.
I want the real thing.
Yeah.
And we still want to see some new white life out of.
Michael Sisko's loins too.
Not to get too personal.
I've got a new white life.
All right.
Just the other day.
Their first kid.
I will just say congratulations to Jay and her family.
Congratulations, Jay and family.
Yeah.
And it's their first.
Very cool.
Very, very cool.
Absolutely.
Great.
Speaking of first.
Got a delightful email from a listener here.
It's a little bit long.
I think even after I asked him to pare it back.
So I will read it quickly.
But it was worth reading in total for sure.
Just for the heartwarming and inspiring story that it relates.
And here we go.
Greetings, fellow white fathers.
Exclamation mark.
Parentheses.
I'm finally in the club.
Exclamation mark.
Yes.
The racist wife and I just found out we're pregnant.
We're big fans of the show and knew right away that you and the Volk would love to hear the news.
Correct analysis.
Good sir.
I think my wife's and my story may strengthen some waning hearts out there.
So here we go.
A few years ago, at about 28 years old, I fled the Sodom and Gomorrah of the West Coast.
Which one?
There are several.
In hopes of finding a traditional woman back home in the Midwest.
For two years, I was putting myself out there constantly in the dating world.
Even on his deathbed, my age at the time, 30, my dad hoarsely cried out in agony, Son, I'm so sorry you never found a wife.
It was the morphine talking.
I teased back.
Easy dad.
I'm not the one dying.
I have time.
With the challenges, I entertained lowering my standards.
I had just recently been red-pilled, so my interests weren't exactly kosher conversation for date nights of the normie type.
Yep, we know that stress, brother.
But inspired by our heroes, I was determined to tell the truth and from the get-go of any relationship and let the chips fall as they may.
Just after my father passed and the COVID narrative was forming, I received a dating app message.
After a few exchanges with the young lady, we set a bike ride date.
What I thought might be an hour-long bit of social torture turned into a five-hour first date, including conversation touching on everything from the corrupt food and drug industry to the Federal Reserve and her getting into a stranger's car to enjoy a picnic of the finest wine and string cheese that the corner stow had to offer.
She agreed to this, by the way, even after I told her who, in my opinion, was the greatest man of the 20th century.
We hit it off while the joggers burned the country.
We escaped to the woods on camping trips, sleeping separately, discussing life, food, health, religion, our people, and truth.
As a small-town girl, she hadn't been indoctrinated by multicultural global homo, but there were definitely some repulsions when I mentioned things like racial differences, certain historical takes, reproductive realities, or the millennial old behavior patterns of our tiny-headed friends.
But being the product of a countercultural family and a pursuer of truth, her emotions would settle, and then we could walk through whatever brief mention that triggered her, even if mild, programming that even trad-Latin Catholicism couldn't or wouldn't deprogram.
Knowing how important her faith was to her, I explained my reservations to which she responded on date three.
It doesn't change that I love you.
Oh, be still my heart.
Yeah, I'm happy already.
Okay, a little bit more detail.
Bear with us, fam.
So we set sail on a—this guy's making this up.
This can't be true.
I'm kidding.
So we set sail on a truth journey together.
She would still sometimes retract as I slipped into a new red pill, but she was deep into the rabbit hole immediately.
Her trad-Cath family banished me and all but banned her from seeing me.
We knew within months that we wanted to marry, and she insisted it must be in the Catholic Church.
But because of my ideological position, six separate priests over the course of a year refused to marry us, even after jumping through all the hoops.
My then-fiancé could now see that she would have more success marrying a Somalian Catholic than an unashamed white guy dedicated to finding answers and pursuing our people's traditions.
So after a year—go ahead.
Nothing like base Jesus niggers.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I know.
He's got a point.
After a year of white baby-making opportunities missed, she admitted I was right.
We called my best friend, who had gotten online ordained as a joke while drunk, contacted our circle of Wignat friends, and held a hand-fasting ceremony in—hand-fasting?
I don't know what that is—in my parents' garden four days later.
Today, five and a half months later, and after multiple negative pregnancy tests, we made it through the concerns that she could be infertile at age 31.
We got two lines.
Obviously, things can happen.
We want to be measured in our excitement.
But wow, we're honored to contribute to our familial trees and the well-being of our people.
It may seem small, but you're—small to whom, sir?
It may seem small, but your show makes us feel normal.
I think the opportunity to meet Smasher and see his beautiful family several weeks ago helped ease some of my wife's fears of this strange new world, to the point she's now jumping ahead on episodes from me.
Ha ha.
So thank you for all your work on Mike, but more importantly, in the soul, the family, and the community.
Listeners, stay faithful to the truth.
Courage is attractive.
Please share prayers and libations for the success of our pregnancy.
We love you guys.
Hail the Volk, and hail the gods of the Indo-Europeans.
Woo!
Not fanfic, I don't think.
No, it's— Better not be.
I'll vouch.
Congratulations, guys.
That's amazing.
And, yeah.
I met— Bless her for sticking through all that with her family and the church shutting it down and just going for it.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving on from that.
Tough act to follow.
Here's a question for the birth panel.
He says, Hey, coach.
My name is Lee, and I'm writing to you from the land of the once and future Third Reich.
I'm an American and have lived in the U.S. my entire life, but COVID— The fourth?
Yeah.
Land of the once— The once Third, future Fourth.
Yeah.
Details.
I wasn't going to bust his chops.
Glad you did those, Smasher.
I'm an American and have lived in the U.S. my entire life, but COVID upended my job situation and circumstances had it that I had a great opportunity in Europe.
It's truly amazing being over here and knowing that Hitler and his disciples walked these same streets and created the most beautiful society ever to exist for those 12 wonderful years.
While I'm not fluent yet, I'm eagerly learning German and hope to put this to good use when I return to the U.S. in a year or two.
I've been a white nationalist since 2017, and the TRS sphere really helped me along that progression.
I've been listening to Full House for a few years now, and I really enjoy the show you guys put on.
I'm writing because I'm in the middle of a huge conundrum.
I met a girl over here who I've fallen madly in love with.
She's Arian AF.
That's not Arian America First, Michael, just for those keeping notes at home, a little more earthy.
Blonde, cute, smart, funny, kind, caring, and I know that she's as in love with me as I am with her.
She just makes me really happy when I'm with her.
We've taken some trips together around Europe, and I'm going to meet her family for the first time of Christmas.
She's a vegetarian, which I rolled my eyes at until I thought of Hitler's voice saying, so was I, if you remember Obi-Wan style.
But doesn't care that I am not.
Did Hitler eat dairy and fish and all the rest of that?
As far as I know, yes.
Do we know?
He wouldn't eat fish a lot, but he would eat fish, and he would do dairy and stuff.
He wasn't vegan.
He was vegetarian.
Imagine if he was eating red meat and lifting on the regular.
Good Lord.
Dude, imagine if Hitler was just Trenn and just, yeah, twice a day, deadlifting 600 pounds.
Truly, we would all be speaking German right now.
Yabble.
Okay.
Being with her has made my life better in many ways.
I get better sleep when I'm with her.
Yeah, I bet you do, big guy.
I virtually stopped looking at porn.
She's undoubtedly been a great influence on my day-to-day life, but the big and unavoidable problem is her political and worldviews, which I describe as those of a center-left normie.
There's a lot we agree on.
We both hate Trump.
We don't like vulture capitalists.
We're pro-environment.
We love animals and nature.
We agree on our hatred of American military interventionism, although she is a pacifist and detests and is horrified by guns.
Let's see.
Over the past several weeks, as our relationship has progressed and gotten more serious, I've been filled with a growing sense of dread, knowing that my ideological views are unchangeable and that no one, not even this woman whom I deeply love, can alter my commitment to my belief system, nor can I continue to hide that side of my life from her for the rest of my life.
Sure, I could keep doing what I've been doing for the next several weeks, months, maybe even years, basking in the joy we share as a happy couple, but she has brought up the Nazis several times and the horrible things they did to the Jews.
She's referred to rightoid anti-vax protesters as dangerous Nazis, and I can't bear to imagine how much it would hurt her to know that I am a committed national socialist who views Hitler as the greatest man who ever lived.
I wish I could reshape her views of the world and convince her of the truth, but one, to do so would be illegal over here, and two, even aside from that, I'm almost certain that the programming in her is just too deep.
So as painful as it is going to be for me, yes, don't let anybody ever tell you that your words are a crime, even in the mini poor Reich right now.
I'm being resigned to the fact that I have no choice but to break up with her.
I'm going to be honest with you, Coach.
I'm sobbing as I type this email.
I've been heartbroken by girls I loved who decided they didn't love me anymore.
I've also broken several hearts myself, but this is a new and unexplainably painful situation for me.
This current relationship in a vacuum would in all likelihood be destined for marriage and children.
Yep, in normal days it would be.
I know she'd make a loving and committed wife and mother.
The last few weeks my thoughts have been racing back and forth from dread and resignation to blissfully ignorant happiness when I spend time with her.
I love her, and the thought of breaking her heart just devastates me.
But if she found out I was a Nazi, her heart would be shattered even worse because of the evil lies the Jews have told her about the world about us.
I'm thinking I should break up with her soon so that it's not even more painful later on down the road.
But even as I say that, I'm hoping there is some way I can continue to be with her.
Please pray for me, and I'd really appreciate some advice from the birth panel.
Thanks, Lee.
Good Lord.
Oh, boy.
Well.
Don't live a double life.
Just straight up don't live a double life.
No, definitely not.
To be honest, it's going to sound like a weird take, but living a double life like that is worse than cheating, to be honest, because it is, in principle, almost the same thing.
In action, it's extremely close to the same as far as participating, getting text messages or whatever from people that your spouse doesn't know, lying about where you're going and what you're doing to hang out with people.
Now, that may not be super possible in Germany.
But, you know, it's more or less the same, except instead of, like, going out and sleeping with somebody, you're living this entire ideological separate life from them and a radical ideological separate life from them.
So the way that I look at it is, like, there are people that have cheated on their spouses and have gotten over it.
If you are, like, ideologically cheating on your spouse as a National Socialist and they don't agree with that, they will never get over it.
They will never forgive you.
And in the divorce proceedings and family court that will be brought up and you will never see your children again.
So that's point one.
Any opposition to what Smasher just said right there, that he can't keep it secret from her through to proposal in marriage?
Right.
Yeah, definitely not.
Are you going to marry somebody based on a lie?
Because that's really what it is.
Like, you are lying about who you are as a person, but you want to marry them?
Like, bro, come the heck on.
No, I agree with you on that.
I would say this, what I know about women, is that the things that they say and the things that it may seem they believe may be very superficial.
And she may not be a highly principled person about this.
And so you would, if you're willing to put in more time in this relationship, take more of a leadership role and state the way the things are.
And she might start to see things from your point of view and she might start to line up a little more.
And the things that are in her beliefs that are good, she might find voice of those things with what you're saying and the way you could lead her.
So I wouldn't say it's a totally bad thing, but we only know you just from these few minutes of reading your letter and hearing about you.
So what Smasher is saying, every bit of that is correct.
You've got to be who you are.
You know the truth.
You've got to get that out there.
You've got to give this thing just so much time.
And if she's so brainwashed that you can't lead her out of it, then, you know, that may just have to be it.
But I would say there's a chance anyways that you could lead her in a way where she might find that resonance of her beliefs with what you're saying.
Yeah, I would say absolutely you can't just end it without trying.
Yeah.
He's got to at least broach it, take his time.
I mean, if she's cute, innocent, sweet, and you love her, and you're having a good time with her, like, take your time, buddy.
I mean, I don't know how old he is, but you have to at least try.
Although the thought occurred that this was an elaborate ruse to get us to advise him to commit a crime in Deutschland by, like, saying that he liked Hitler or something.
But, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that a little private conversation, even if she's anti-Fatir.
I like to think that she's not anti-Fatir.
You know, I'll give him an act.
Just a German normie, whatever.
Yeah, the German normie, even worse than the American version of the normie.
She only knows what she's been brainwashed to believe.
Yeah.
So he has to try.
Don't just break up with her dumbass.
Yeah.
Like, take it slow.
Yeah.
And I mean, don't even say that you're a national socialist.
Like, I don't want to sound like a cuck, but the reality is that you do live in Germany and there are real consequences.
And I don't literally want you to break German law and get yourself in trouble.
Right.
Say all the things that, you know, I love the environment and I'm pro-worker and I believe in a healthy society.
Cheers.
Oh, you're a vegetarian.
Like, why are you a vegetarian?
Oh, because you care about, like, animals and the environment and stuff.
And it's like, oh, so, like, modern Germany's environmental policies.
Like, who came up with all that stuff?
Where'd that come from?
That's interesting.
But the other, the darker thought occurs that, okay, so this guy found a cute, pretty little thing in Germany while he's there for not that long.
Doesn't even, you know, like, those relationships happen, right?
Like, the expat meets, that meets the cute local and they fall head over heels.
And then upon further reflection, it's not actually as, like, serious, perhaps as a domestic, you know, when you're, when you're out of water, you're also not totally in tune with the way that people are and the way they think in their backgrounds and stuff.
So you're gambling a little bit.
So it could be that he's got a case of the traveling love lust and that perhaps this young lass is deep-seated, whether it's truly believed or whether it's just deeply programmed into her, is a true obstacle and that it's not meant to be.
Um, the optimist in me wants me to think that he can make this work and bring her along gradually.
Certainly seems like she would recoil in terror at him broaching certain topics, um, but maybe there's a chance for it.
So, I don't know, bring her back to the U.S. where you can speak candidly and take her on a driving tour of Baltimore or Portland or San Francisco and, uh, show her the fruits of her ideology or hell, you know, whatever the worst city is in Germany, Hamburg, uh, Berlin, maybe.
But hang in there, uh, Rolo, what would you do?
Or Michael, what would you do?
Come on, you're the special guest.
You can't skate free on this one.
He's like, uh, he's like, uh, break up with her and have her contact me.
Well, he should, he should propose.
He should take her to castle of Evelsberg and propose there.
Say, Hey, sweetie, do you like documentaries?
I got a good six hour one.
Which one, uh, you're up with the last battle or the, uh, no, that's a 12 hours.
Greatest story.
Never told.
Yeah.
That one.
I've never heard of that documentary.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Now he plays coy.
Yeah.
No, he's talking about his favorite one show up.
Marching to Zion.
Did you ever see that one, Michael?
It's by, uh, pastor Anderson down South.
I have not.
Okay.
All right.
Well, yeah, it's, it's a very interesting one where he basically goes around and interviews rabbis and a sort of other characters about the Talmud and the Torah and all the rest of it.
And it ends kind of on a cookie, but anyway, it might be interesting to you.
I know it's take the good with the bad with pastor Anderson, but like, God, just that when people bring them up, I just imagine, I can't help, but, uh, see the footage of him, like marrying the white dude to the negress.
Yeah.
I'm just like, bro, the guy's totally gone.
I would never recommend that guy.
He's not one of our guys at all.
How can I say?
He says a few good things, but.
Right.
Well, and I mean, he, like he talks about Jews, as far as I understand, he talks about the Jewish question primarily from like a religious standpoint, right?
Yeah.
Versus like the political standpoint, which I think is more effective.
Yeah.
I mean, he's, yeah, I don't, all I can say is that it was our own Nathaniel Scott who shame upon him has not submitted a navigating the collapse again this week, but he, that was the documentary that opened his eyes as a devout Christian to the nature of the JQ.
And I watched it and enjoyed him sort of, you could see that the rabbis were like toying with him, like this little thing, like, I'm sure this is an innocent interview.
And then he actually like grills him pretty good.
And then truth be told, of course, when the rubber hits the road, they claim ignorance when he's like, so what's up with the six sided star?
That's your national emblem.
I don't know.
I would have to do a little bit of research on that one.
So it's just really.
And I mean, obviously, you know, use, use, use whatever key to unlock that door that you have to, but yeah.
Yeah.
Any other advice though, for, for Lee, aside from stick with it, give it a shot and don't don't break up with her, but don't hang your hat on her future marital prospects.
Does that sound reasonable?
Yes.
All right.
And yeah, don't, don't get it.
No, you don't have to go full, full guns a blazing, but, uh, you, yeah, you cannot try to sneak it past her and get married and then be like on your, on your wedding night, like, uh, you know, by the way, burst out of the bedroom with the swastika flag over your back.
Like I got a secret for you, honey, to reveal, no, that that's, that's not going to go over too well.
Maybe it would, uh, Christmas season.
I got more questions for Cisco in the hopper, but I just wanted to share that, uh, we had been, we, we always try to get a tree relatively early.
Cause I love having a Christmas tree in the house for as long as possible.
It's awesome.
The kids love it.
Makes the house smell like pine needles or Douglas furs or Frazier furs, whatever the hell your preferences.
Last year, we got a juniper that we cut on our own property that was spiky as hell, but I thought looked delightful in my window.
Uh, so we waited too long and we weren't, we didn't want to just like go to it.
Like you see gas stations around here sometimes have just like a pile of forlorn trees out front and you're like, no, they don't look so good.
So we did the bit, couldn't find a good tree on property.
So we went to a tree farm first time ever.
I had seen tons of pictures from our guys over the years of them taking their kids out, finding the tree, cutting it.
It was late in the day.
It was like four 30.
So there was this very dark and foreboding sky and, uh, we're in the truck with the kids and we're like, and it was literally the last day that they were open.
So it was now or never, we were under the gun for 30 minutes to get a tree and, uh, drove around.
I was worried the potato was going to get lost in the tree maze.
I kept doing sound checks, like potato, where are you?
And then the toughest thing when you're there is you're like, Oh, I think this might be a good one, but that might be a good one.
That might be a good one, but you're in a forest of trees.
So going back to find the one that you originally saw.
And eventually we settled.
We were like, yep, that looks like about the right size.
Doesn't look like it's dying on us.
Brought the saw from home, cut it ourselves.
Got it 30 bucks.
Delightful memory.
I thought it was a little without having done it before.
Of course, judgmental bastard that I am.
I once thought that that was a little bit bougie or a little swiftly to go cut your own Christmas tree in a forest and pay for the, for the privilege.
But, uh, not so very nice memory, all white people there.
And there was a nice, uh, you know, 50 something white lady there giving out hot cocoa to the last customers of the year.
And I, we were about to go home and then she was like, do you, do you want some hot cocoa?
I was like, I don't, but my kids would.
So they came over.
And of course, daughter was shy and junior was like, thanks for the hot cocoa, you know, just about that.
And then potato of all people really took a shine to this lady.
And he started talking to her, like striking up a conversation.
He was like, we had skeletons at our house.
And she's like, what?
And I was like, oh, he's telling you about the Halloween decorations.
He's like, and now we have Christmas tree with this smile.
And she was so, uh, I don't know, just genuinely pleased to have this little munchkin talking to her with enthusiasm that we found a tree on her tree farm.
It was a truly delightful.
And I asked her, why are you closing up shop on December, you know, midway through December, whatever it was.
And she said, oh, the, the demand has been off the charts.
We had to shut it down or else we were going to like lose our tree farm.
So, uh, two weeks out from Christmas, they just cut it so that they would have a crop for next year.
So maybe that is something about, uh, the tree shortage, et cetera.
Um, take that to heart, get out there and get one before it's too late.
I want to be like, uh, Sam, you know, haggling in a kippah with the guy in the, in the grocery store parking lot on Christmas Eve.
My wife said her father used to do that all the time.
He would wait until the very end to get a good deal on a tree, but you know, for the Orthodox, of course it, it rolls on till January 7th.
And then for the, uh, for the Sam's of the world, it rolls on till February.
Yeah.
February 2nd.
The purification of the Virgin.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I mean, back, you know, the, the Christmas was always, uh, not always, uh, celebrated on December 25th.
It was, uh, um, the epiphany January 6th, which was, uh, often celebrated and continues to be celebrated in countries just like Christmas.
Um, uh, there's that in common.
So Michael's so hardcore that he, uh, he works on Christmas Eve and Christmas day because he's that much of an Orthodox pro right now.
I'm kidding.
You, you, you, you have two Christmases a year.
Is that correct, sir?
Uh, well, maybe I phrased that indelicately.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean, I generally will kind of half celebrate with my family on, on the 25th and then I'll do the religious, like the Orthodox nativity on January 7th, which is your family.
Does my girlfriend's coming to visit for nativity?
So I don't have to steal her from her family because she's Orthodox too.
So cool.
How'd you meet her?
She watched my show and, and followed me on Instagram.
Oh, very good.
I was like, Hmm, cute girl.
That's already comfortable with my voice.
Did you have the standard thing?
Like, is this a honey pot?
Is she trying to trap me?
Or did you just, you know, sense that she was genuine from the get go?
Nah, I could kind of tell that she was genuine.
Also, I know I'm good friends with her priest, which was quite awkward for her in the beginning.
I was like, yeah, I know you're, I know the guy you confessed to.
I've known him for years.
So, um, she's down in Texas.
So I actually went to, uh, when I visit, I usually stay at his house because, you know, we're, we're pious Orthodox Christians.
So, uh, that's fine.
We don't, we don't, uh, poo poo that, but you know, she wants like seven to 10 kids.
So, you know, there might be, might be more contributions.
Good speed.
Yeah, absolutely.
How old are you Cisco?
Uh, 34.
Okay.
So she's only 27.
We've still got some, got some time.
Awesome.
Don't take too long, but yeah, that would be awesome.
If that works out, we have the cameras on here in the second half.
And I told Michael that he actually does look a little bit like Jesus Christ with that nice, you know, full, full beard and a, and a kind wise face.
No homo.
Rolo's like, I got my own show.
Where the hell's my girlfriend?
Rolo.
No, people, people want to listen to it.
Rolo's like, no, no, no, that's true.
No, no, no.
That's true.
No, he's right.
He's right.
Come on.
I mean, yeah.
Like, you are the worst promotion of anyone.
I know you don't promote your own show.
You don't promote yourself.
Like you're on full house.
You're single.
Dude, I'm looking at you right now.
You look like you could have been in the SS.
Maybe a little.
I was a little sad by what coach said, but what Smasher said was so great that now I feel good.
Look, I'm trying for you, buddy, but, you know, God helps those who help themselves.
I don't want to promote my show on your show.
I don't want to promote my show on a good show.
I wouldn't want to promote your show.
We'll make it a good.
Final storm, Sunday afternoon.
There you go.
Finally.
Blood from a stone.
New commentary track coming.
How is it the final storm every week?
No, there's a storm.
The weekly storm.
The weekly final storm, the final storm of the week.
It just happens on the first day of the week.
Everybody who's listening.
If you want the answer to this question, go back to the first full house that I was on.
I addressed this.
Glad that Smasher wasn't paying attention there.
No, you'll just have to go listen to his show to find out.
I DM Rola.
I was like, I'm trying to subscribe to your show, sir, but it's not working.
He's like, whatever, you know, you'll find it.
I'm going to just spit my water.
Lightning says it works.
Okay.
Those are some heavy hitters here.
It's not my fault.
You're tech boomer coach.
I know how to subscribe to an RSS feed with the best of them.
Thank you.
Rola's like, yeah.
I changed the RSS feed.
I put a couple of fake letters in there so nobody could subscribe to it.
You just sent him the fake one because I don't want him listening because he's going to leave a bunch of comments that mean things.
At the break, Rolo, let us know that he's been doing a lot of extracurricular editing work on the show.
You know, like he's just taken the liberty to like cut certain passages that he finds irrelevant or over.
Just things that you say because you're dumb.
I guess we got to look for a new producer.
All right.
That's going to make what, like five in a year?
You know, that's all right.
I got plenty in the hopper, Rolo.
You're on borrowed time.
I'm always hunting for talent.
No, I know.
You're great, buddy.
Thank you.
In all seriousness, though, we do try to set people up.
And I'm looking at Rolo in his dark studio and his professional audio equipment.
And he looks like he would be a very good husband and father, if I may venture so far.
So drop us a line if you want to have Rolo's pups going forward.
I'm being serious.
He's wearing a sweet dad shirt, too.
It's the least I could.
Yeah.
What does it say?
You're muted, professional.
I'm disappointed when liars' pants don't actually catch on fire.
Wow.
Is that a World of Warcraft tattoo?
That's dad cringe.
All right.
Enough joking.
Let's get serious again.
Sam, did you have anything?
I know you wanted to mention that you got that lovely note with the – was it Celtic or a Gaelic prayer?
Celtic prayer.
Yeah.
Is Celtic and Gaelic roughly – Gaelic is like the local Irish version of the Gaelic people.
Is that fair to say, Smasher?
Yeah.
So there are like the broad branch of Gaelic people, right?
And there were continental Gaelic, to include like the Gauls.
And then you have island Gaelic, which would be the Scottish and the Irish.
And Celtic would be – well, Celtic would specifically be the Celts of the British Isles.
The Basque people are Celtic.
There's a few little pockets of Celtic people here and there outside of the British Isles, but primarily Celts are in Britain.
But Celts are Gaelic people.
Gotcha.
So Celts are downstream from the Gaeles.
The Gaeles are the big branch.
The Celts is a more specific version of a Gael.
Is that fair?
Yeah.
I think that's – Yeah.
I thought it was back.
I thought the Celts were the like pan-European tribe.
Somebody will probably spurg out on me and be like, well, Celtic would be more like ethnicity type and Gaelic is more like language stuff.
And that may be correct, but like for all intents and purposes, like Celts are generally the tribes in this – like the island tribes in a couple of pockets.
And they belong to the Gaeles.
And maybe it is more accurate to say that Gaelic is more specifically for the language, the way that like Arab describes a huge swath of various ethnic groups.
But I'm not that autistic about it.
Fair enough.
Before we go back to Michael, two more quick ones.
Coach's uncomfy corner, I guess.
Turn on the Christmas lights, which I had lovingly put on the house this evening.
And one of the kids says, Dad, what's wrong with the Christmas lights?
I was like, I don't know.
I just turn them on.
I see them out right there.
They were like, no, look over there.
Half the damn house is out.
So I figured just one of the connections was loose or maybe one of the bulbs went dead and shouted bad down all through the line.
But lo and behold, the new pooch had chewed through one of the wires completely.
So it was completely separated.
Good flicks.
Yeah.
She didn't get fried like the cat in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation.
Apparently, so far as we know, I don't have footage of it, but got to replace one of those things.
This pup wants to chew on everything.
Christmas ornaments, shoes, the train.
Their grandparents bought them an awesome old-timey train set to go around the tree.
And I caught her chewing on the damn tracks today.
So whenever that happens, I put her out.
We give her tons of chew toys, but she just wants the real stuff, the stuff that we like.
And then I did let the kids watch National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation against my better judgment the other night.
I knew that there was paws in there and some bad language.
And generally, it's like the opposite of a Christmas story.
It's just got a little bit of a, you know, the dad is well-intentioned, but sort of a mock-worthy character.
And the kids are snot noses.
And then the in-laws come, and it's more hassle than it is love.
But I got to admit that there was some genuine laughter in the family room that night from all of us across age groups.
The slapstick comedy got to potato junior and daughter laughed at a couple things.
And my wife and I did as well.
So I don't know if that makes me unworthy on the dad front, but it was funny.
Smasher, you wanted to jump in there and call me a bad parent?
No, I actually want to correct myself.
Celtic is the broader term.
That's my understanding.
And Gaelic is more specifically for the British Isles and Ireland.
There you go.
Smasher is more in tune to the revolutionary aspects of Irish identity.
That is actually...
No, I know.
I have not done my homework on the broad Celtic history.
I specifically focus in on Ireland because, you know...
You're drawing the correct thing.
The Gael's are related to the Gauls, which are related to the Galatians of the Bible.
Yeah.
True Israelites.
Let's give Michael some more really difficult religious questions that might alienate all of his potential future listeners.
No, I'm kidding.
Yeah, I mean...
Do you think Atlantis was real?
He's not joking.
Do you know about Atlantis, Michael?
You can't laugh your way out of that one, bub.
Are you familiar with Atlantis and the Atlantean theory that that was the font of all civilization and Aryans and things like that?
I don't know, but it's a serious question.
I am familiar with the...
Yes, I am familiar.
As far as whether there's...
I mean, I actually do believe it's a real historical place.
Do I have any opinion as to whether, I guess, the mythos surrounding it is correct?
I don't really have an opinion.
Do you think it's a coincidence that Irish Gaelic and...
Oh, gosh.
I just totally drew a blank.
The Phoenicians and the Irish have a lot...
There's a lot of coincidence, what we would say.
There are coincidences there and crossover.
Do you think that that's a total coincidence?
Or would you think that it's likely that Atlantis fell?
They landed on Ireland.
From Ireland, they springboarded throughout the world, became the Phoenicians, became the Egyptians, and gave birth to all of modern civilization.
Rephrase, they shipwrecked on Ireland and they were like, this place sucks.
Let's get out of here.
And they went to North Africa.
Wait, you mean they were like, what are we doing here in Africa?
Why are we here?
I mean, I've heard various origin stories of, you know, Gaelic peoples and, well, just and Germanic.
So, you know, I've heard also theories that we originate from, like, the Baltic area.
I do think that European peoples, in general, share a common, kind of more centralized ancestor.
So, it's plausible, in a way, as sure.
Yeah, I mean, this is obviously a much less serious question than the broad Atlantis question.
I'm just an Irish hotel.
I mean, there's definitely evidence that we, that, like, at least Western Europeans kind of originate from the same locale.
It gets tricky when you're trying to get specific.
And how far, the further back you go, obviously, the murkier it gets.
Well, it's really easy to, like, spurg out about human biodiversity, because then you could get into, like, well, how many races are there in Europe?
And, you know, it's kind of easy to say that there's at least two, like, white races in Europe of, like, Southern Europe and, you know, Northwestern Europe.
Well, one thing, for sure, Italians are black, so.
Specifically Sicilians.
Isolate that.
Yes, he's going to lose the Italian vote in West Virginia, all five of them.
All three people in the Italians are not even white.
Italians are not even white.
But even with, like, the meds, right, I do think, you know, you'll get certain people who will use the, like, the group, the Hellens and the Italians as, like, this, oh, well, you're not all the same.
What is white?
And then they'll try and, you know, split up, well, you're not the same as, you know, the meds and the Western Europeans.
But there is, like, a degree of compatibility and, like, familial, like, kinship, especially historically when you're talking about, like, the Roman Empire.
And it's kind of intuitive, honestly.
Yeah, Europeans are Europeans, so.
Michael, what's your favorite challenge?
Italians are not even white.
Yes, we got that one the first time or the second time, Rolo.
Thank you.
But I do appreciate it.
It's Warren, not me, man.
Come on.
Yeah, I recognize the voice.
White people are the people who are discriminated against in this country.
There you go.
Italians get to be white because their country is being flooded by African migrants.
Right.
Yeah, if you're under assault in the world today, yes, you are probably white and or Christian.
What's your favorite childhood memory, Michael?
On the spot, don't give it too much thought.
What comes to mind?
Are your parents still around?
You mentioned your family, but go ahead.
We do this to all of our first-time guests.
Something fun.
As of one episode ago.
I think I tried with Kevin MacDonald, but he just talked about the 50s.
So go ahead.
No more stalling.
What's your favorite childhood memory?
Go.
Oh, man.
I don't know how to not stall.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of them.
How do I?
Just pick one.
It doesn't have to be like special or like what comes to mind.
It doesn't have to be the best one.
Yeah.
Okay.
It doesn't have to be like super specific or can I, I mean, I grew up, I know this is kind of cringe, but it's Normie ball.
I went to a lot of Normie ball events with my dad.
So that was, that was fun.
What are, what are Normie balls like local civic?
Yeah.
Baltimore Oriole games and Raven.
Oh, oh, oh, sports ball.
Ah, yes.
Okay.
Sure.
That's all right.
The highlights of growing up, you know, enjoying back when it was kind of, you know, and it was an actual escape back in the day.
From, uh, no, that totally works.
Yeah.
I have very fun.
My, my grandparents took me to more baseball games than my parents, but go ahead.
It was, oh, I was just gonna say it was always cringe, but it wasn't, but it wasn't always cringe.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Yep.
I went to, uh, my grandparents took me to Camden Yards when I was probably 12 or 13 years old.
And I remember thinking, oh man, this is awesome.
The big city baseball game, inner Harbor.
I actually still have my, uh, my ticket from my first Orioles game at Memorial stadium.
Actually.
When I was one year old, I was at a, obviously I don't remember that, but yeah.
Yeah.
I was at a baseball growing up in Pittsburgh.
I think they've had, I think the pirates have had one winning season my entire life.
Even with Barry bonds and Bobby Bonilla before steroids.
Yeah.
They sucked.
Um, what'd you think about the Patriot front demonstration?
Michael, I assume that you at least saw a little bit of footage of it.
And of course, uh, the vast majority of conservative and leftists, well, leftists know the score or the conservatives call it.
Yeah.
Would you agree that they're feds because they weren't fat?
Uh, no.
Like what a retarded cell phone.
Good answer.
Yeah.
But yeah.
Where's that?
Yeah.
These two, 200 dudes that aren't overweight also happened to go coordinate outfits.
They must be feds.
No one could do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nobody could do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They weren't.
Yeah.
They weren't fat.
They were matching and they weren't at home watching college football.
Like talk about a cell phone.
I know.
They didn't invite any black people, but serious, serious question.
Do you have an opinion on Patriot front?
I'm not trying to pin you down.
Maybe I am, but do you, do you like that?
Or do you just recognize it?
Any thoughts on PF?
Well, I know that I, I frequently get harassed by one of them and had to end up blocking him.
Oh, he was saying, come, come join us for a March pussy or no.
Was he saying you're not hardcore enough or yeah.
Yeah.
Like, like you're a suit type.
We don't trust you.
I'm just like, like, you know, you know, like I understand.
Okay.
You guys are doing your thing.
I mean, that's kind of how I view it.
I'm like, all right.
They're doing their thing.
I don't quite understand.
Like, I, I like what, what like Mike Pinovich did with the protest in over the.
Yep.
Waukesha.
Yeah.
I liked that.
I thought that that was good aesthetics.
The, the Patriot front stuff just seems a little over the top for me.
And that it's more probably just a matter of pace than anything else.
Um, it's the, the, the U-Haul things kind of actually smart.
They haven't like an actual exit strategy.
Um, what you need because we've found out what happens when you don't have one.
Yeah.
Like, um, Charlottesville and whatnot.
So.
Yeah.
I, I just don't know.
Like, like the, the marching through Philly thing was kind of, uh, more troublesome to me than what marching on DC mostly because DC is going to be naturally less hostile because you have, you have such a, like a police presence and it's just, but marching through Philly during, and I can't remember exactly what day, but they went through the hood basically.
It was like, well, what are you.
Well, they were routed that way.
And that's, that's a problem that they've had before.
And it's, it's like, what can you really do about it?
You know, it's like, you decide that you're going to go have your demonstration and you go when you do it and then, you know, somebody is going to take this out of context, but like they cooperate with the police.
They don't talk to the police beforehand.
Like no, you know, not none of that is planned, but they, when the police are like, Hey, you need to go this way, or this is like the way that we're going to lead you to get you out of here safely so that nothing happens.
They go, okay, we will do that.
So when I say cooperate with police, that is all that I mean, like, you know, to be as clear as I can.
And so the police would, you know, kind of said, Hey, go this way.
Like they were all like, we want to go this way.
And the police were like, no, turn around, do this, do that.
And then the next thing you know, it's a complete, just dookie fest.
Yeah.
And I mean, they should be, they should march in Nantucket or in East St. Louis if they want to, because they are nonviolent.
All they're doing is exercising their first amendment.
Yeah.
Whether they're in the ghetto or whether they're in the Tony streets of Beverly Hills, which would be, that would be pretty awesome to see a Patriot front demo.
And, and up, but yeah.
Well, and like with, with DC being kind of, you know, the seat of power, essentially.
Obviously, I mean, like you said, Michael, that they don't want shenanigans in DC.
So in, in a way, DC is safer in some regard because the police there actually will enforce the law, not because they agree with you, not because they respect your rights, but because they have a duty to protect our, our blessed, wonderful congressmen and women and senators and other like rich Jews and whatever.
And so they will do that simply for that reason alone.
We're like in Philly, the cops are like, you know, they absolutely get to act as like the political force that doesn't care about your rights and will march you through the hood when your U-Haul is the opposite way of the hood.
And yeah.
And of course the evidence from DC is that when the cops do their job, even if they over respond by magnitudes that are unnecessary, that, oh, lo and behold, there's no violence.
Right.
You know, it's right.
Every, every DC march goes off without a hitch.
They've done them for years now and they, they always go off, you know, largely without a hitch, at least the demonstration itself.
And, um, they can't look the other way like they did in Charlottesville and so many other places.
Yep.
Well, they marched in, uh, Chicago down LaSalle street, which is brilliant.
It was perfectly executed.
I would say go back and watch that video if you want an example of how.
Well, and like, that's another, you know, Patriot, Patriot fronts, uh, you know, they, they're very meta narrative types.
Right.
And so where, where they do their, their demonstrations is specific to that.
So like in Chicago, what, uh, they talked about was like financial slavery and, and all of this stuff.
And so they marched down through the financial district, um, you know, in DC, it's always about, you know, tyrants and kind of a lot of the time hearkening back to the founders of the country, uh, and things like that.
Uh, and I, I, I couldn't tell you the exactly why they marched through everywhere, but that's just kind of generally what they do.
We're like with Waukesha, we went out there specifically for, uh, a response to an incident, you know, we're Patriot front.
That's not Patriot front style.
Uh, just like, you know, in the NJP, obviously we do talk about meta narrative type stuff, but it's sort of, uh, our duty, maybe self-imposed duty that we are also here to respond to like in real life, political, uh, struggles of white people.
Sure.
Uh, Michael, I'm going to ask a really unfair one, but I'm still going to ask it all the same.
Would you rather you can hem and haw and try to split the baby however you like on this one.
Um, would you rather see a world that was 100% Christian with no white people or a world that was 100% white with no Christian people?
What kind of question is that?
It's a hypothetical that gets to the root of your motivations.
What's more important to you, race or religion?
Uh, religion.
Uh, I think, I do think that there could be, there's a, uh, well, well, here's a, I'll actually pull out a scripture here because the two are intertwined to me.
Um, like if you, if first Timothy five, eight, right.
But if any provide not for his own and specific, and especially for those of his own house, you have denied the faith and is worse than an infidel.
Um, so I don't, I don't see any, I think that would like be a, like to have the two conflicting kind of a false dialectic.
I think God created the races.
Um, I think that your own race is, is like an extended family of sorts, like, like my kin folk.
Right.
Um, but I, I don't, I think that the problem can arise when you attribute virtue more to race than to faith.
Um, I think, I think virtue, I mean, obviously there's a balance there and it, it can be, it can be tricky.
Uh, it can be tricky, but I think virtue is mostly, mostly from faith rather than race.
Fair enough.
How about I've been listening.
Oh, go ahead.
Oh, I was just gonna say, you know, I don't dislike your answer, but before we were Christians, like we still lived, you know, particularly like in Europe, Europeans since, you know, essentially the dawn of, uh, the European race in whatever form, like they, they lived largely, uh, you know, good lives.
They weren't rapists, you know, they weren't rapists, savage, homosexuals.
Uh, you know, there's been various forms of like bloodshed and, um, barbarism, but yeah, you know, the law of God is written in the hearts of his people, which is not, it is not written in the hearts of those who are not.
Uh, well, and you know, my thing is too, is that why, while Europeans have always kind of acted in this, uh, almost, you know, moral way, regardless of whatever religion that they're following at the time.
So for me, it's like, is religion just, uh, a way that we interpret and then reinterpret our morals and beliefs about the world?
And then we just change it based on, you know, different, different things that are, are going on.
Uh, well, well, I would say like, like, as far as like the pre faiths go, that, that there's truth in them and that they all foreshadowed or pointed to the eventual bliss of truth revealed in the Christian faith.
Well, me more specifically, the Orthodox Christian faith.
Um, so I would say that that's the fullness of truth.
So we don't like just abandon everything that was before, um, which is why we don't really take offense to like, maybe, um, you know, a lot of Protestants will point to something and be like, Oh, that has pagan roots.
And we're like, well, who cares?
Because like the good from everything is kind of grafted in and transfigured Christ.
Um, I do think that all the humanity is created, still created in the image and likeness of God.
So we, we all have that human, that same core human dignity.
Um, but that isn't to say that there aren't differences between the races, um, from, for various different reasons.
Well, especially the ones that, uh, the devil sowed from the foundation of the world, sowed the terrors amongst what God created.
So God did not create those.
There's that difference.
Uh, well, I mean, we all live in a fallen world.
Uh, we, we all have to, with the fall of man, we have to live with the effects of the fall.
So that's what I would attribute to any sort of, uh, well, all evil, honestly, and all of our inclination to evil.
So I don't, I don't think that I'm, I mean, I'm fully capable of evil too.
So it's, it's a, it's a constant, um, pursuit of repentance and struggle every day.
Sure.
But like, you know, white people are fully capable of extreme, uh, violence at an incredible rate, but 13 still does, you know, 52.
And I don't see why that couldn't be extrapolated beyond, uh, FBI crime stats.
Uh, but like, personally, I think, uh, spirituality is almost this immaterial thing.
You know, there is some material reality to it, but you're talking about your soul.
You're talking about something that is not physically present here in the material world, uh, and, and 99% of ways, um, where, where race is the material reality in which we live.
And so like, you can't solve the problems of race with religion.
You can't solve the problems of religion with race.
Well, the thing is, there's no, there's no moral argument for force integration of the races.
So it's, it's, it's almost like, like forcing people that are different to live together in this like multicultural experiment is not a moral thing.
Right.
But I don't, I don't think it's.
We don't necessarily have to make a value judgment on the differences.
Uh, like for instance, if they're in, if they're in, if Africa is Africa and the Anglosphere is the Anglosphere, if, if we weren't forcing that integration, then we wouldn't have table 21C FBI stats.
You know what I mean?
A lot of our problems would go away.
Yeah.
Like, and then, and then their society, we can look from a distance and be like, oh, cool.
That's a nice mud hut over there.
That's a nice mud hut.
You got going on over there.
Look at my great, nice wheel, but, but we don't have to make an actual read this bubble.
Oh yeah.
Well, and like, that's something, that's something that, you know, uh, if you can trap somebody into an actual, like honest conversation and you say something like that after they've been fed, like all of this propaganda of like white supremacy and evil and whatever, and you're like, no dude, just like, I just kind of want to be left alone and like not force anything on them and not have anything forced on me.
You know, it's really eyeopening for a lot of people, but I, you know, I think to go back to like the moral judgment of forcing people together that don't belong together.
Like, I think that that is wrong regardless of, you know, any sort of religious status.
You know, I, I don't need a religion to tell me that that's wrong because if we all exist separately in, in nature, then we don't, we shouldn't be forced to mix.
There's men and women, right?
There's men and women.
And so nature or God or whatever has deemed that that's, that's how it should be.
There's men and women.
Well, there's also different races too.
So somehow, whether you believe in evolution or nature or science or God or anything else like that, then, then what argument can you make for this integration?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, well, what a bigot, Sam, totally bigoted.
All truth is ultimately of God.
So therefore it's inseparable from religion.
So, so to speak, yeah, pretty sure the tower of Babel was not an advertisement for how it was supposed to go, which is what we're living in now.
Got to ask about Russia, Michael, you are, or you're not just an Orthodox bro, but you're of the, uh, the Russian sect of Orthodoxy.
If I understand it, does that mean that you are Putin's, uh, camels nose under the tent, but no, in all seriousness, somebody will probably say that, that you're a Russian agent or whatever, but what is your relationship to Orthodoxy and, and Russia?
Does that come into the picture as a part of your faith or do you, uh, it would certainly be understandable if you have a soft spot for what they are doing there with the, uh, definite Renaissance that's happening.
Uh, any thoughts on, on Russia, Putin or Russian Orthodoxy?
Uh, sure.
So I'm, I'm a member of Rokor, which is the Russian Orthodox church outside of Russia.
They actually are semi-autonomous so that they're not directly controlled by the Patriarch of Moscow.
Um, they are in communion, um, and ultimately, and he could, I guess, like, like get veto power over our metropolitan or whatever.
Um, the reason, and they, they actually exist solely as a reaction to the Soviets, the, the Marxist revolution.
Um, they fled mostly the white Russians, not, not like by white Russian, we mean like the pros are the, the monarchists.
It's a white army.
And, and, and they fled to Europe and America and they basically have Rokor is like the church in exile, so to speak, that had no ties to the KGB and the, and the Soviet Union.
Um, and that's why they existed as a kind of like a, a protest of sorts outside of, outside of that.
Um, and then they, they reunified with Moscow in 2007.
It took them a while to finally trust that Russia is not led by communists anymore.
Um, and so I chose, I actually came to Orthodoxy through Antioch, but I, I ended up in Rokor.
I was drawn to it because it's, it's the, the more traditional, um, of, of the jurisdictions in America.
So that, that's why I became Rokor is just kind of drawn to the more conservative, traditional jurisdiction.
And fair enough, Russia writ large.
Yeah.
As a country civilization.
Yep.
And I do like, I mean, I'm not going to lie.
Um, the trajectory of Russia looks, looks to be a good trajectory from the, I mean, obviously it's not like this.
Object, objectively from abject poverty, bankruptcy, degeneracy, alcoholism.
Yeah.
Not to put words in your mouth, but I, I was, I was there in two, I was there in 99 for like a couple of weeks.
And I remember seeing it was right after we bombed Kosovo.
It's not about me, sorry, but it was right after we bombed Kosovo.
And I remember there being like, Ooh, you know, there's the financial crisis.
We were bombing Kosovo, like some like nasty graffiti and stuff.
I was like, Ooh, these people don't like us.
And then I was in Moscow, 2001 drunks everywhere, puke in the Metro, et cetera.
And then I was there briefly in 2006 for work.
And I was like, Holy moly, five years.
And Moscow was a much shinier city.
Granted, a lot of that was oil and gas money, but they had cleaned the place up too.
It felt safer.
It felt cleaner.
It felt more wholesome.
Uh, and I attribute that largely to good leadership from the top and, uh, yeah, turning around that sinking ship that that's just my commentary, but yeah.
And geopolitically they're important because they are a, a force that is attempting to exert sovereignty on its own independent of the liberal democratic order, um, which makes them a boogeyman.
So, but you have to, you have to respect it.
So sure.
Yeah.
The, uh, I know it's been shown before, but the juxtaposition of our military propaganda versus Russia and China's, uh, ours is of course, lesbian, you know, girl talk about how I'm finding myself through the U S military and realizing my inner aspirations to be a tough girl.
And of course, I have two gay moms join the army.
If you join the army, you can have gay moms too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say it's unfair.
Like, Oh, you're cherry picking up, but no, like an actual military put out that garbage.
And China's of course is like a bunch of Han Chinese doing awesome stuff with guns and ships and tanks.
And Russia's is like this very Aryan man getting up from bed.
He's like, yeah, you used to play soccer out there with your buddies, but now you're in the military.
And he's, you know, going through bootcamp and looking like a bad-ass.
Yeah.
The best military recruitment commercial that I ever saw was one of the trailers for halo ODST.
I'm just saying, I'll send you the link.
Whatever that means.
It's one of the, it's one of the halo video games.
Yeah.
And dude, this commercial is like so powerful.
Like few, like kid's father dies in combat.
He then enlists and goes off to fight.
And like, it's just, it's like unironically extremely moving.
And it's like exactly what you would want military propaganda to be in a serious country.
And you're like, man, I like, I wish that could be me with a dead dad, like fighting for my race.
Like, that's right.
Yeah.
I told Rolo video game and the U S army is like, have gay sex in the barracks.
Thanks.
Nerds making video games are more based than our military propagandas today.
Not even close.
I told Rolo, he had the next question, but he just refuses to ask it.
So I'll ask the next one.
This is podcasting Rolo.
Is this your first time on a show?
Like you just got to go for it.
But, uh, Michael, tell us a little bit about your military experience just briefly.
Cause we've got to bring this puppy home.
And, uh, if you had sons, would you advise them to join the U S military today?
Yeah.
Um, well, no, I wouldn't, but, uh, I was in the, I was, I was just national guardsman infantry for six years.
Um, I was fortunate to, I don't know how this, I joined right after the surge in Iraq in 2006 and I never ended up going.
I went to Egypt on a peacekeeping mission.
So I had a buddy who died in Egypt, uh, last year.
Helicopter training, right?
Literally, literally an Israeli peacekeeping mission launched from Israel.
So, oh, wow.
That's what I was on.
Honestly, I was, I was on that peacekeeping, uh, making sure that the Camp David accords were kept.
I'm going to scream.
I'm getting fed poosed.
Yeah.
It's not a laughing matter, but yeah.
But no, I, I would not advise my, uh, children to join the trainee homosexual great Satan military to go, uh, do the bidding of another country other than his own.
Bold, bold, bold Cisco.
I like it.
Yeah.
You got, you got to, if you're going to break through, uh, we've talked about this off mic, but, uh, yeah, you just got to give it to, give them the straight dope.
Right.
The West Virginians are not dumb and they've only been subjected to these milk toast GOP lick spittle, empty suit, taking them for granted, you know, get elected and then go and hang out, uh, for so long.
And you got a real chance to, to do good, do good by being different and being, uh, brutally honest where they so often mince words and things like that.
But, uh, all right, guys, last call.
I'm, uh, the, the kerosene heater has long ago expired and now I'm just by the flicker of a propane tower out here.
I'm really getting soft in my old age.
Last winter I was out here just cold, two socks, you know, hood over my head.
And this year I'm, uh, by the grace of God, delighting in the wonders of hydrocarbons, which of course, Michael Cisco is a big advocate for, as a candidate for West Virginia and the glorious coal mines and shale gas and all the rest that we have here.
Uh, last call for questions from Michael and then Michael, I'll give you a last word.
We expired him.
All right.
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Uh, Michael, go ahead, have the last word and then we'll close this puppy up.
Uh, well, I was just going to say what you just said, but, uh, but follow me on gab at Michael Cisco and also tell me I'm on telegram as well.
T dot me slash the Michael Cisco, but yeah, I need your money.
I don't have, obviously I don't get the, uh, the big Israeli lobby money.
So I've seen them no, no Rolex watch.
Yeah.
No Armani shoes.
I don't even know if that's a thing.
I'm just making that up, but, uh, no, uh, full disclosure, Michael and I have met, uh, once or twice now, once at a playground with my kids playing and it was very comfortable and they liked him.
They petted his beard.
No, I'm kidding.
They didn't do that.
That would be weird.
And, uh, and he's been over here too.
And, uh, I don't agree with him on 100% of the things you could say that I'm quote unquote more hardcore, but you know, he'd probably say that I'm a little bit more batty on some of these things and maybe the rest of us, but that's why we do this show to talk about this stuff.
And in all sincerity, Michael, God bless you.
Thank you for coming on, for being an advocate for our people and for your faith and the faith of so many of our listeners and whatever our tiny disagreements on these things.
You'd certainly be better than I'll say a hundred percent of the 435 representatives in the United States Congress.
And for that, we salute you.
So to all of our listeners out there, utterly checked out of politics and the hope that any good could possibly be accomplished by even one of our own guys getting into that zoo they call Washington, D.C.
Well, you still may be right, but at least give Michael Sisco in his campaign for Congress, a look and a consideration of support.
And Michael last bit of free advice.
I know when you're in politics, everybody's giving you free advice all the time, but if you want something, you got to ask for it specifically.
So don't hesitate to go out there and say, I need somebody to pick it for me or get signatures or, uh, make phone calls or whatever.
People will answer specific calls to action more than they will be, uh, to vague ones.
And I'll leave it at that.
Uh, this week we're going out with Bing Crosby.
It's Christmas season.
We only got another like two weeks to go.
Uh, so I'm going with silent night.
Uh, the best crooner, the voice of American Christmas.
We did white Christmas last year.
We're doing silent night this year.
Uh, Godspeed to Michael Sisco smasher, Sam Rolo.
Thank you very much.
Always an honor to have you riding with us.
Yep.
And we will talk to you next week, maybe with Laura and Sam Teller, or I should say Sam and Laura Teller.
Uh, maybe Cantwell.
Cantwell's really got something on his chest.
He wants to get off, uh, on the show to talk about.
And we got a bunch of other good ones in the works.