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As we speak, we're all at the boiling point as news rolls in of what certainly seems like a black terrorist attack against an overwhelmingly white Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin.
We're also still on the edge of our seats awaiting verdicts in two more trials of white men who did nothing wrong.
On the contrary, they did the right thing by standing up for themselves, their communities, and our people, even if they didn't fully realize it at the time.
If you don't yet possess our secret societal Dakota rings, you might be scratching your heads, wondering how the hell things have gotten so upside down for white people in this country and all over the world at a time when the grave threat of white supremacy is trumpeted by every media outlet on earth.
It's the eternal example of our enemies crying out as they strike us.
And this week, we are honored to welcome perhaps the world's foremost expert on the roots and motivations of those who have made us hated majorities in our own homelands.
Mr. Producer, let's go.
Welcome, everyone, to episode 109, pure meme magic, this week of Full House, the world's most respected show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole bio fam.
I am, as always, your enthusiastic host, Coach Finstock, back with another hour, maybe two we'll see this week, of the finest and mostly family-friendly information and entertainment.
Before we meet our very special birth panel, though, we spoke with Spectre last week and addressed the opioid epidemic.
We didn't get too deep into recovery options for addicts, but after the show, multiple listeners wrote in to wholeheartedly endorse Kratom, that's K-R-A-T-O-M, as an effective replacement for opioids.
Now, be careful with it, fam.
It's supposedly addictive and not legal in all states, but take that for what it's worth.
A lot of people said it truly helped them to save their own lives and those of their loved ones.
Also, if you are a poor soul who missed Christopher Cantwell's masterful, brilliant, and powerful closing statement in Charlottesville last week, we mourn for you.
Read the transcript and write to Chris in prison.
I spoke to him just today.
He's probably going to be there for another month or so before he heads home to his other home.
So do help Chris out and show him support.
He fought like a noble fighter in that courtroom.
And we're really saying our prayers and keeping our fingers crossed for those guys, a verdict possibly coming as you're listening to this show on Monday of this week.
Also, thank you to Jill, Durandall, and Cab for the support of the show.
And if you'd like to support our efforts, check us out at full-house.com or givesendgo.com slash fullhouse.
And with that, let us get on to the birth panel.
First up, he is not the Robin to my Batman.
He is the Alfred to my Batman.
Sam, and I don't mean that as if you're a butler.
You're more of a consigliary.
Thanks so much for joining us.
Yeah, thank you.
Boy, it's hard to even know what to say after the news events of tonight.
And it's hard to even crack a joke in light of all that, but sobering for sure.
And, you know, it can only serve to make our people wake up a little more.
That's right.
Yep.
We have a very special guest on.
We're not just going to talk, you know, things are still unfolding in Wisconsin.
Several of us are extraordinarily heated, but we're going to try to just wait.
Things are developing there and talk about slightly more intellectual stuff.
And with that, next up and out of the sick ward, he is our one-man COVID-wrecking crew potato smasher.
Glad to see you back up and about and back on here, buddy.
Yeah, I'm glad to be back.
Glad to be over it.
It wasn't too terrible.
I was mostly just tired.
And less than seven days, I was back to normal.
So negative test.
Yep.
And wifey and the kids are fine too, right?
I'm the only one that got it.
And then as soon as I got the test, I lived in the basement all week, too.
So did you play some video down there?
I did not actually.
All right.
I mostly slept.
And I did watch a little bit of anime, admittedly.
I watched some neon Genesis.
Yeah, when we record this show, my wife and my youngest son will go and watch anime during our taping here.
Thank you, Smasher.
And finally, our very patient and esteemed guest.
He is Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California State University, Long Beach.
He's the editor of the outstanding publication, The Occidental Quarterly, which you, dear listeners, should subscribe to.
He's perhaps most famous for his brilliant work, The Culture of Critique on Jewish Evolutionary Strategy.
And his most recent book is Individualism and the Western Intellectual Tradition, still available on Amazon, we might add.
We are honored and delighted to welcome on Dr. Kevin McDonald.
Good evening, sir.
Welcome to Full House.
It's great to be here.
I should say also, my background is in psychology, and I was what I taught all these years was child development.
So it's sort of my area of parenting and all that.
All right.
Well, we'll mix some of those questions in too.
I realize with some of our guests, we just talk about their specific expertise or their infamy, and we don't get into the parenting stuff so much.
I do have to say, Dr. McDonald, we had a flub on the scheduling earlier for the show.
So we were waiting here for your esteemed presence.
And we were a bit like a people that were dwelling alone that night.
I'm sorry.
I just slipped my mind.
I don't know what happens.
I got to get more of like a PDA or something to keep my schedule going.
I don't know.
No worries.
No worries.
We were chatting with each other.
We did not develop a culture of critique while we were waiting there.
I couldn't help myself.
Sorry.
Dad humor, as we say.
All right, sir.
If you wouldn't mind, we're going to grill you the same way we do all guests on Full House.
Your ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status, please.
Sure.
Oh, so what's your ethnicity?
I assume so.
Okay, you're asking me.
I'm a white male.
I'm of basically British Isles Scottish and German descent.
Okay.
And I've done the genetic tests.
And white male, I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools for 12 years.
And then I went away to university and changed quite a bit.
Sure.
And I was, you know, when I was young, I was very much very liberal.
At that time, people who Republicans were like, you know, country club types, you know, and I was sort of working class.
And it just seemed natural to be on the left.
And I was that way through college.
And then gradually, around 1972 or so, I started to really get more conservative.
I voted for Gerald Ford and then Reagan.
And anyway, it's been quite a journey.
I didn't get into the issues like Jewish issues until about 1990.
And then I really became racially conscious because I, but the bottom line of culture critique is that these people are not on our side, that they really hate us.
Not all of them, but the mainstream Jewish community, the power, the activists, there's a lot of hatred there.
And they have this historical chip on their shoulder.
And so that sort of moved me to where I am.
People call me a white nationalist and all that, which is simply because I do think that we are, as a people, we are under threat.
And really, the origins of that really come from the people that I've been studying the last 30 years.
Sure.
And you have sons and you have grandkids too.
Yeah, I've got two sons and three grandchildren, all girls.
Three grandchildren, all girls.
I had two sons.
And I imagine being a grandfather is as delightful as we all expect it to be for us.
We all have kids except for our lowly Mr. Producer, but we're looking forward to grandkids almost as much.
Well, that's true, except one of my sons won't talk to me.
And so I don't get to talk to my grandchildren.
I can't have any communication with them.
Oh, man.
The other son is friendly and we talk, but he lives way over in Hong Kong.
And so we don't see each other.
So it's kind of tough.
Yep.
Something that we talk about on the show all the time, the risks for family men of getting involved in our politics.
It's really tough.
But I moved to an area now in Idaho where there's a lot of like-minded people.
And I feel I'm part of a community now.
And I feel much better about things because I can talk to people.
And I don't worry about getting outed and all that kind of stuff, which was really an issue where I was before.
In fact, I did get outed.
And, you know, when you worry about Antifa, you know, coming marching down the street and stuff like that, it's really got to be tough.
So we decided to move.
Sure.
Yeah, bless you.
Yep.
So many of us have done the same thing.
One of our, I just had this epiphany the other day, sir.
I wanted to ask new guests about their favorite childhood memory.
It doesn't have to be a significant or a major long thing, but does anything stick out in your mind from growing up as a kid in the halcyon days of America, at least as we were all born 60s through the 80s and even 90s here?
But anything jump out at you from your childhood?
I'm probably older than you guys.
I was born in the 40s and I grew up in the 50s, which I think is a golden age for American culture.
It really was.
You'd intact families, the fertility rate was high.
People were going to church and it was a very cohesive society that felt self-confident.
I mean, it was under attack.
I mean, you had Joe McCarthy, for example, fighting the communists, but it was really communists versus, you know, where you had these people on the left, including the major media like the New York Times, where, you know, hated McCarthy.
And I think I think there were some serious culture wars in the 1950s.
And actually, a lot of that is in my book, Culture of Critique.
That was, I think, a pivotal area.
And then in the 1960s, it just completely blew apart.
And by the 1960s, I was in college and I really got under the spell of that whole left-wing radical thing.
I was protesting the war and doing all this stuff.
And I was completely became a radical, really.
And I had all these Jewish friends and roommates and everything.
And so it was a different world.
And it was only later that I really got disillusioned with that and realized what a horrible mistake this was.
I think the 1960s were a disaster for the country.
That was when the revolution started.
And if you look at the rise of the Jewish elite, you know, it was certainly getting more and more influential after World War II.
But in the 1960s, it just exploded.
And if you look at the academic world, it's a good example where Jewish professors were now like 25% of the Ivy League social science departments.
And even in my own, I was at the University of Wisconsin in the 1960s in philosophy.
Philosophy is one of the big areas that was very much taken over.
I don't want to say taken over, but a very large representation of Jews in the 1960s.
And you can just see it in the department.
The older people were not Jewish and they were retiring and then can they keep bringing in more and more Jews?
So they were really a majority in the department at the University of Wisconsin when I was there.
And then, of course, I left.
I dropped out.
And part of the reason I dropped out was the whole 1960s, you know, zeitgeist at the time, you know, that you shouldn't be ambitious and all this stuff.
And then I went back to graduate school in the 70s, but very different, very different world.
Did you have an inkling of Jewish perfidy when I, as I understand it, you sort of sort of stumbled into this through innocent academic inquiry.
But did you start off Babes and Toy Land on the JQ when you were working on your first book, not separation, sorry, it was A People That Shall Dwell Alone?
Or did you know that there was something up with them?
Well, I knew there was something up, you know, but it wasn't really until I read, I started doing the research for Culture Critique much later.
You know, I definitely got a sort of negative view of Judaism, historical Judaism.
You know, it's extremely ethnocentric, as obsessed with intermarriage and reproductive success and money, really, and that whole thing, and really exploitative interactions with non-Jews, which is, if you look at Jewish, at their writings, they condone that.
I mean, you can exploit non-Jews with no feelings of guilt or anything.
So and they have very different ethics for Jews versus non-Jews.
So it's very much an in-group, out-group thing.
You could see how that could lead to big problems.
And then the second book was on anti-Semitism.
And basically, as I did the research, I realized that the big incidents of anti-Semitism historically have always involved real conflicts of interest with Jews.
And then finally with cultural critique, quite a bit of cultural critique as I was doing it, I started saying to myself, well, this stuff, sort of harmless stuff, it's the kind of thing that can be reversed.
But especially when I got to the chapter on immigration, I just, you know, this is something that putting facts on the ground.
And what I have, what I showed and what I just updated, I got a paper coming out in an academic journal this week, I think, is that this is really a project of the Jewish community.
And without it, you wouldn't have had this massive ethnic transformation that we have seen in the country.
Of course, the other big thing, the culture of critique, is the family, especially the chapter on psychoanalysis and the chapter in the Frankfurt School, which fundamentally aimed at the family and attempting to pathologize sort of normal parent-child relationships based on love and affection that we see that really Freud now is completely on the outside in child psychology.
He's no credibility at all, but he had a big influence and that whole sexual liberation thing of the 1960s and the whole campaign really against the family.
Really, it was started by the Jewish intellectuals who really saw the family as sort of the basic root of fascism.
And they saw healthy family relationships as leading inevitably to Hitler and that kind of thing.
Just crazy stuff, but that's the way they thought.
Absolutely.
Well, that's why we push healthy family relationships exactly for that reason.
I won't let the other guys ask questions too.
Of course, I've got a slew.
So gentlemen, hop in when you want.
But if Judaism is a group evolutionary strategy, for those who haven't read the book, it begs the question, how much of their behavior is innate, innate or genetic, and how much of it is conscious and cultural that, you know, their mom brought them up to hate the goam or to be subversive, that sort of difference between nature versus nurture with them.
Yeah, well, it's a complicated story.
And I don't say, I never say that Jewish behavior is genetically determined or something.
I think there are certain genetic tendencies regarding personality and intelligence and so on that are important.
But especially when you start talking about culture, I mean, my book is called The Culture of Critique.
And so I believe strongly that culture is important.
And the fact is, modern contemporary psychology has very strong room for that.
A lot of my writing in psychology had to do with creating culture, being able to create ideologies and theories and so on that end up motivating people.
Think of something like Marxism.
It was cooked up in somebody's head, Karl Marx.
And so they had this whole ideology about class struggle and exploitation and all that.
And that stuff's not genetically determined by Jews, but I think it is the case that Jews have attempted to subvert non-Jewish society.
They've attempted to undermine it and to cut down the morals of religion and everything.
When I was growing up, I mean, the Christian religion was sort of everywhere.
And the Christmas holidays, you couldn't miss it.
But as a result of Jewish activism, Christmas has been de-emphasized more and more.
There's been this big wall between church and state that didn't exist when I was growing up.
And that's all the result of Jewish activism.
So cultural changes, and they go, they occur because of what's going on in the academic world.
The academic world is very important because this is where you have these professors who end up getting quoted in the major media.
You have the whole legal system where you have the major law schools like Harvard and Yale.
They're feeding people into the major judgeships, the Supreme Court and all that.
And so what really happened here is that Jews became this elite.
They deposed the old Anglo-Saxon WASP elite that when I was growing up was still in power and sort of was on its last legs in the 1950s.
But when they did that, they essentially created a new culture.
And all the ideas that we see now, the civil rights movement, the feminism, all these things that came in in the 1950s and after, LGBTQ as being normal and taught in schools now, critical race theory.
All these things are ideas.
And the way the mind is constructed, you have the higher brain centers, the prefrontal cortex, which are essentially linguistic centers.
And so they take in these messages, verbal messages, and they actually can motivate behavior.
Either you can inhibit behavior or you can facilitate it.
And for example, here's an experiment I had in, it's actually in my most recent book, where they have white students looking at slides of black people or something like that and black people.
And when they're done looking at these slides, they say, well, your score on this test, you're supposed to say, you know, I forget what the exact response was, but anyway, the result was the experimenter says, the results show that you're prejudiced.
You're racist.
And it's not even true.
They're just making it up.
But when they do that, then the person who's in the experiment changes his behavior and becomes super cautious.
And they take much longer to make a decision because they don't want to be considered racist.
That's the kind of thing we're talking about, where these ideas coming from outside can inhibit your behavior and can shape your behavior.
And so culture has a huge shaping influence on people.
And I'm a biologist.
I mean, I'm an evolutionary biologist.
I think genes are important.
But most of my work, frankly, has been about culture and how it's been deformed really as a result of Jewish intellectual activism.
And the fact that they've, as I often said, it's not the power of their ideas.
It's the fact that they were able to get these ideas put out by Harvard and the New York Times and Hollywood and all that that's important.
In other words, you have this sort of top-down revolution coming from this new elite that's very much entrenched in the media and the academic world, in the legal world, and all that.
And that's really where the revolution has come from.
And when you think of all that power that's arrayed against us, that's why it's easy to get pessimistic about our chances here.
And we've got these major institutions and now the big corporations, technology corporations, Facebook and Google and all those companies, Coca-Cola, they're all on the left now.
So we're up against it here because this new elite has permeated everything, everything.
And one of the problems that you identify is whites' pathological altruism, our inability to act as tribal as Jews.
So if Judaism is an evolutionary strategy and it worked pretty damn well for them up till now at least to gain power, this is not intended to be a cheeky question, but do whites need to act more like Jews in a certain respect?
Well, yeah, my last book as an individualism and the Western liberal tradition is really about individualism.
We are genetically inclined to be individualist.
And I trace it back to prehistoric times.
It's a very strong trend to see in our society.
It was certainly facilitated by the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages because they campaigned against tribal allegiances because they were trying to advance their own power.
But we are genetically inclined to be individualistic.
And that means we're not very good at cohesive type group strategies.
Now we can.
And I think what you're seeing now is that white people are coalescing more into groups.
We're seeing that, because I think white people start to realize that they're under threat, and that there's a lot of hatred out there.
That I was just looking on Twitter, they found they were doing this analysis of Facebook posts, and they were trying to flag hate speech.
And they're finding that 90% of it was anti-white until they sort of changed the algorithm because they don't really care about that.
But yeah, that's the thing.
And I think we're seeing more and more anti-white hate.
And what that does is make white people identify more as white.
And white people start to see my fate as a white person is bound up with the fate of other people, other white people.
And so when that happens, and it has happened in the past, you look at National Socialist Germany, 1930s.
That's tremendous cohesion in a Western society.
And of course, you had this ideology of racial cohesion at the time.
And that's the kind of thing that they want to prevent.
I mean, the entire rise of National Socialism was traumatic to the Jewish community and is still reverberating.
I mean, they process everything through that.
And when they see, and when they think about Germany, you know, about Nazi Germany in the 1930s, they don't just stop at that.
They think, well, these were basically white people.
And, you know, these are Europeans.
And they don't think just about Germany.
They think about expulsions in the Middle Ages and France and England and parts of Germany.
And they think of pogroms in Russia and all that.
So they have this hatred towards Western civilization and towards us as Europeans.
And so that's really the motive.
And again, I have this paper coming out and I nail it down even further, really trying to emphasize that the motive that they've had for immigration has been that they feel safer in a society that's multi-ethnic and multiracial because you don't have one ethnic group like you had in Germany in the 1930s that's much more easily made to become a cohesive group.
So that's really their fear.
It's all of their fears always a rise of an anti-Jewish movement because it's happened repeatedly in history.
They seem to produce hostility.
You mentioned Hitler, the Third Reich there, and a lot of people blanch at that and want to just step over that period.
Okay, it's too far gone.
No one will come around to thinking that those were the good guys.
I'm just curious, do you have quote-unquote hang-ups about Hitler and the Third Reich and National Socialism, or do you see it as net net that was a good thing that got derailed by international communism, international Bolshevism, et cetera?
Well, I think there were a lot of positive aspects to the Third Reich.
When you see the videos, it's a very cohesive society.
They had a lot of very healthy policies regarding education and everything.
And yeah, I mean, the entire world ganged up on him.
I do think Hitler made some disastrous mistakes.
I don't think he should have been so aggressive and should have tried to build, you know, continue to build the Third Reich up to be a sort of shining example for all of Europe, all of humanity.
In the 20s and 30s, fascism had a very much different reputation than it has now.
And there are a lot of fascist intellectuals and people who saw good things in what they were doing.
And if you look at, you know, if you look at just the economic statistics, the social statistics, they were very, very good in the 1930s.
And there was, you know, children were being born and high fertility rates.
And it was a very adaptive culture.
But, you know, disaster.
And the whole thrust now of our culture is to oppose anything that even is remotely connected to that or smells like that in some way.
And they have a very sensitive nose for that.
And what do you make of the Holocaust, sir?
Either the numbers or the methods?
Is it all a fiction?
Is it more or less true?
I'm not trying to get you in trouble or put words in your mouth.
No, I just have stayed, I've sort of steered clear of that.
But lately, I have posted articles by Thomas Dalton, who I regard as a serious scholar about the Holocaust.
And he has severe doubts about it.
I don't really, you know, when I publish something on my website, the Accidental Observer, or the Axel Quarterly, I don't necessarily agree with everything.
But at the same time, I don't finally disagree with it either.
And I don't think, and I do believe I get articles that are well sourced.
And so when he writes articles about that refer to the Holocaust, you know, they're well sourced.
He recently had one on what happened in Croatia or Serbia, I guess, Croatia, where they were exaggerating how many Jews were killed by the Croatians.
And hundreds of thousands, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it was ridiculous.
And they talked about bone dissolving machines because they couldn't find any evidence of it.
You know, it was just crazy stuff.
So crazy that quite a few Jews were furious at these other Jews who were pushing this stuff because it was so ridiculous.
But that's the kind of thing that I, you know, so I've gotten more and more open to it.
But, you know, I think if I were to try to write something on it, I would have to immerse myself.
I'd have to learn a couple languages because I don't trust a lot of the scholarship that's out there.
I mean, one thing that if you read my book, Separations and Discontents, I have two chapters really on Jewish, well, especially one chapter on how Jews, how they're, when they write about history, it's so often completely biased and their perspective is completely off.
And there's just no basis for what they say.
It's extremely ethnocentric.
And it's history with a political point.
And I believe that that probably occurs with the Holocaust as well.
Got it.
That's actually the question that I came up with while you were talking was would you say that it makes sense for the Holocaust to fit into the Jewish evolutionary strategy?
But you've answered that.
Well, you know, it's certainly true that the Jews have used this and they have publicized it.
You're hundreds of movies now.
And every time something bad is happening in Israel, like the Palestinians are revolting or something, we have more and more Holocaust stories and it's never ending.
And it is used as a sword and a shield for Jewish interests.
There's no question about that.
And Jewish writers have written about it.
Norman Finkelstein, Michael Novak, or Peter Novak, and one of these guys, I mean, historians had really written, quite frankly, about how the Holocaust didn't start until the 1970s,
and when they started to have more and more propaganda, it really had to do with Israel being, you know, seen as more and more of a pariah state, and the Holocaust shoring up the sort of Jewish narrative of why we need to have Israel and all.
all that.
Anyway, that's Coach.
Coach, I had a few points I wanted to make.
Please.
Dr. McDonald, I got into this thing when I was in my teenage years.
I was brought in more or less on the skinhead scene.
And I knew about the Jews, learned about the Jews since I was a teenager and throughout my life and from that time onward.
But one of the things that I have found interesting and I would like you to comment upon is that, so we learn a lot about this Jewish international issues, international activities or things, historical things that have happened.
And especially for the young person, we get activated with a certain amount of righteous indignation, anger, things like that.
We see what they're doing in the media.
We see it in entertainment and all those types of things.
But then when a young person starts to grow up a little bit, maybe they go to college or they start to have experiences in the world, you can find that Jews dealt with one-on-one are often quite charming and they can even act in a way that would be helpful to you.
And so I think that throws off some people sometimes.
And when somebody is learning about the Jewish issue, studying the Jewish issue, they might be short-circuited later because interactions with Jews can be quite different than this international character or the historical things that we look at.
And I try to advise people when they're coming up, especially that you've got to be ready for that type of thing.
And I think sometimes the movement might miss that, and that's sometimes what will make somebody drop out of the movement is that they get tricked by the Jews in that way, that they can be kind and they can be personable.
Often they're very charming.
So I think that the Jewish problem is important to understand it in this fuller way.
What do you think?
Yeah, I agree with that.
Well, one of the points I make in my writing is that the Jewish community is not monolithic.
I mean, there are a lot of different viewpoints there.
But what you have to do when you study Jewish influence is you have to see where the power is being directed.
Where's the money going?
Where is the media coverage going?
And you can find these good Jews.
I mean, Stephen Miller, the Trump administration, I don't think you can find a better guy on immigration, for God's sakes.
Well, maybe you could, but he's very good.
And people like that, you know.
But what you have to do to have a real understanding of what's going on is to look at where the power is, where the money is, where Jewish activism has been directed in the past when so much of our present way of life has been influenced.
I wrote really the culture critique goes up to about 1970.
And I got in a big intellectual battle with this guy, Nathan Kaufmann, and he talks about, well, Jewish intermarriage is very high now.
Well, it wasn't when they changed the world.
Back in the 1960s and 50s, and they were hardly any intermarriage at that time.
And, you know, so all these things are, you know, you have to look at it historically.
It's not easy.
And, you know, they're good Jews.
And I, frankly, though, I used to have Jewish friends, but they all disowned me because of what I've written.
Well, yeah.
And it's, it's, yeah, that gets to that question.
And if I'm, if I sound like I'm differing with you in any way, let me just say it's, I'm just doing it on the most respectful level.
But to me, there are no good Jews, nor can they be good.
But by saying that there are some good ones, I guess that would be saying there are ones that you can have a civil conversation with.
There are ones that can be kind or funny or reliable or something like that.
But I think ultimately their motivation is counter to ours.
I think ultimately, deep down, they are badly motivated and they can never be trusted.
And from my point of view, there are no good ones, so to speak.
I think that that's probably a good rule of thumb.
You know, like I'm like, they might be good in the sense of if they owe you money, they'll pay you back, or I don't know, some kind of interpersonal way.
But in the bigger sense, no, they are always motivated to what in my ethics is evil.
In Miller's case, you could argue that perhaps he's trying to prevent the death of the golden goose.
You know, that's just speculation, of course.
But, you know, of course, there's some Jews who might be good on immigration because they're like, ooh, you can see that we are destroying this once wonderland for our people.
Actually, one of the main activists, you know, Jewish activists against immigration has been concerned about Muslims.
They're not really concerned about white America.
They're concerned that too many Muslims are coming in and Muslims don't like Jews.
So yeah, I think that there could be allies among Jews.
And I've actually written about this.
I think that for a Jew to become an ally, they would have to acknowledge the role of the Jewish community in dispossessing white America.
And they would have to really get on board and realize they would have to identify with us more than the Jewish community.
And that's just, I don't, I'm not sure that any of them will ever do that.
No, the only relation that we could have with them is that they serve us instead of us serving them.
And that's just we have to be in the leadership position.
Actually, Andrew Joyce had a couple of very interesting articles on Oxford Observer about from the 19th century where these two Jewish guys became like, you know, they actually headed this German nationalist group.
And then it became an internal struggle because these German nationalists started to realize these guys are not really on our side.
Right.
And they expelled them.
And as soon as they were expelled, one of them became a Zionist and the other became a Marxist.
These guys were not really nationalists in any ordinary sense.
I mean, they were really crypto-Jews, really.
And that's the way it was.
I had another point, if I can.
Go ahead, who's ever spoken.
I was just going to say, I don't think the existence of good Jews does not negate what Jews have done.
And it's not my job to vet Jews.
Yeah.
Run once comes the mind.
Go ahead, Sam, and then we'll go to our producer who has a question too.
Sure.
Another thing, as you were speaking, I was trying to make some mental notes.
And you were saying how in the 60s, a lot of the things exploded and you yourself got pulled into this certain amount of that mentality in the collegiate times and things like that.
What do you think about the idea that that was their time?
You could say even for 100 years before the 1960s with the advent of communism and socialist movements in Europe and the rise of Jewish power, that was their time.
But maybe this right now is the beginning of our time.
There just seems to be these big trends, you might say, in history where it's the end of one epoch and the beginning of another.
And I say that in this context, that we, all of us here, whether it's in our daily life, you know, or on websites or in posts, we're trying to spread the good word of white nationalism.
And we might be arguing with people.
We might be posting things.
We might be giving somebody a book or reading books ourselves.
But really, the times that we're living in now, or let's even say the Biden administration is creating more Nazis, so to speak, than the most flamboyant Nazi website out there.
So what do you think about that idea?
Like there's just that time on the calendar, because I don't know, you could take it even something as simple as like we say, the left cannot meme, right?
The left isn't funny anymore.
You watch any kind of show on TV, I don't know, whatever comedy show or something.
They're just not, they're not even funny anymore.
And it's our guys are the ones that know how to crack a joke.
Our guys know how to make a point or make a meme.
The books like your books that have come out in these so many years, those are the things that really fall like hammer blows.
And it just seems like our time.
What do you think of that idea?
Are you optimistic?
Am I optimistic?
Well, like I said before, I do think that things are changing gradually.
I think you see some good signs.
And I'm certainly not giving up, but we have to be aware of the power against us.
And I would say right now that The Jewish community and their allies because they're able to make people their allies because they could, you know, say, say, say, you decided to be like me and you know, say things about Jews like this.
Well, you can't get a decent job.
You could never get a job in the media.
You could never get a if I was applying for a job in the academic world, I could never get a job.
Yeah, but but your books are coveted because they're suppressed.
You know, you are among the subversives.
You know, we are the Kevin McDonald's.
Kevin McDonald's the real.
How do you know that you're correct?
Without the outside looking in at this point.
But the establishment right now looks old and we look young.
Yeah, and it's true that the people on the left don't have a sense of humor and they can't deal with satire when they're satirized.
You know, the Babyloni.
Even going back to the 1980s in this area of the country, we had there every year there would be a rally in a certain park in the area, and the Klan and the Nazis and everyone would be there.
And I remember this one time, there was the left with all these old professors and these, you know, weirdo loser people and a lot of old people.
But on our side was all young people, young white working class people, maybe some young skinheads and stuff.
And the chant got up: We got the youth, we got the youth, we got the youth.
That's the worst nightmare.
You understand?
Like the energy is on our side.
Hopefully, KMAC wasn't on the opposite side of that protest.
I doubt there is Mr. Producer, Rolo, you got a question for the good doctor.
Yes.
So, in regards to good Jews, how many of those good Jews are still either supportive financially or in whatever regards to groups like the ADL or the SPLC?
Could you repeat the last part of that?
What?
How many are what?
How many are still supportive to like major Jewish organizations like the SPLC or the ADL?
Because how many of these good Jews they mouth support somewhat, but still behind the scenes, they're supporting very destructive Jewish causes.
Because I mean, how many women thought Harvey Weinstein was a feminist?
Because he was marching at the women's marches.
It's true.
I mean, I think that, as I said, I think when push comes to shove, you find very, very, very few Jews who don't sign on to this anti-white movement that we're seeing.
I mean, certainly some Jews vote Republican, but that means nothing, as we all know.
And I think probably worse.
Pardon?
That's probably worse.
They're voting Republican, and the Republicans are starting Middle East wars.
Yeah, well, it's hard to see.
You know, Republicans are basically useless, but there is this populist trend now in the Republican Party.
I think we're finding it out.
I still have hope.
I was have to say, I was hopeful about Trump and the whole thing.
He was talking our language in some ways about immigration.
And I think he could have changed things.
And that's the kind of thing.
You need a charismatic leader like that who can really rally a white majority.
And one wonders, you know, the Biden administration is really an ongoing disaster in every area, really.
And I think this inflation thing really has big legs.
So I think you could have a good Republican candidate who would really charismatic could appeal and get a white majority to get in the government.
We could do something.
It could happen.
It's not too late.
But boy, well, you can, if you recall what happened in 2016, there were all these major media things coming out with photos, Photoshop things of making Trump look like Hitler.
And that was already going on.
And it will continue.
Yeah, it feels like we're doomed to repeat the past here with the next cycle.
Biden's at 35, 37% approval rating.
Then we'll get white America rallying to another false prophet in 2024, whether it's Trump again or DeSantis.
But you're saying, sir, then that you still have at least a little bit of hope for the political system in America as a means for us to achieve a redress of grievances.
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that that is still possible.
And that's how it could happen.
You have to have a really charismatic leader who doesn't back down.
And certainly Trump had his charisma.
People just love him.
You know, an awful lot of people just adored that man, still do.
That's the kind of thing you need, I think, to really rally these people and get them to assert their interests.
But I do think, you know, say with this thing with Waukesha tonight, if it turns out, it seems to be the case, that three black guys were involved in it, that they intentionally drove through crowds of white children.
This is going to make normal white Americans furious.
And they're going to identify more as white.
And this is the kind of thing that does lead into a race war, which we could still win if it came to that, I think.
So I am not giving up.
I never give up.
We have to keep fighting because things can, history is undetermined, and you never know what's going to happen next.
Things happen that you never predicted.
And all of a sudden, there's a totally changed world.
And, you know, this things like what happened in Waukesha tonight.
It may be a big, really big deal.
Say you got 20 children who were mowed down by a guy, a black guy with dreadlocks, who turns out to have this social media history hating on white people.
I know the media will try to suppress it, but it'd be a huge thing and would wake up to a lot of white people who had this delusion that when whites are a minority, all the racism is going to go away and we're just going to be all peace and love.
No, it won't be.
It'd be a disaster.
It'd be evil and white people will be victimized.
Do you think that they, sir, that they are looking to China as their next host?
We've speculated about this forever that, you know, it seems like Europe is getting more multicultural.
America is getting worse.
Could they really worm their way into China the way they have in white countries and civilization?
I think you might try.
And there's some evidence of that.
There's intermarriage at top levels.
That's always been one of their techniques.
But China's not stupid.
I think they understand that multiculturalism and Jewish influence have been a disaster for America.
They don't have to fool themselves about it.
They can take a realistic point of view.
And they are much more ethnocentric.
And you have a different, in the West, Jews can look like Europeans.
And so they fit in and they're often seen as white people.
And most Americans would say that Jews are just white people.
In fact, that's what you see on Tucker Carlson and you see on all the conservatives.
I mean, that's how they think of Jews.
They're just white people with a different religion or something.
Very important problem right there.
It's a big problem.
They can't do that in China.
China.
We have the Kaifen Jews in China, which have been there for a long time.
And they look Chinese.
Yeah.
There is that.
But actually, historical shapeshifters.
Do you give any credence to Khazar theory, sir, back to the origins of these people, Ashkenazi in particular?
Do you think there's any legitimacy there, or are the Jews that we're talking about actual exiles from the Levant?
I don't really care much about that.
But in my books, I have argued that the Khazar theory is incorrect because things such as the fact that Yiddish is a German-based language.
It's not some kind of Asiatic.
And if you look at the population genetics, there's like one study that I ran past the population genetic expert.
He said it wasn't any good.
And the other studies pretty clearly show a Middle Eastern representation in the Ashkenazi Jewish gene pool.
European as well.
So there's been intermixture there.
In fact, the main theory now, as far as I can see, is that some Jewish men, small, very small number of Jewish men, married some European women and then shut off the gene pool after that.
And so it's, you know, there's a European representation, but there's also a strong Middle Eastern, you know, Jewish representation from the Palestine area, you know, Israel.
It's been a long time since I read up on it, but I remember reading something about there basically being like seven women that all Ashkenazi Jews can do.
Something like that, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what I think that's sort of reigning theory right now.
Why do they hate us so much, sir?
Obviously, it's not like Jews have a deep abiding love for Africans or Asians, but we are the most manifest targets of their subversion and degeneracy.
Does it go back to Jesus?
Does it go back to the Romans?
What's in their minds?
I used to think it was like revenge for the pale of settlement or revenge for Hitler, but it really does, I think, go back farther than that.
It goes back very, very far.
And when Jews are educated in a Jewish milieu, it's what they call the lacrimos theory of Jewish history, where you see Jewish history as one persecution after the other, where Jews are completely innocent and Jews are expelled, they're persecuted, they're killed, they're raped.
All these things happen to Jews.
But the fact is that the whole ideology of Judaism, you see that I started to realize that when I wrote my first book, People That Shall Dwell Alone.
I mean, that you had this intense in-group-out-group thing.
And that produces hostility towards surrounding groups.
You can just see it.
And, you know, you can't eat with a Gentile, that Gentiles are unclean.
You can't touch them.
You can't socialize with them.
You certainly can't marry them.
And so there's this barrier, you know, and hatred, really.
And again, there's this difference in ethical systems where, you know, if a Jew kills a Gentile, it's very different than if a Gentile kills a Jew.
And slavery, you know, Jewish slaves were treated much differently than non-Jewish slaves.
So this is so, so deep.
But, you know, when they look at history, they see nothing but persecution and disaster, and we're the bad guys.
And that's what really happened in the Soviet Union, you know, when they took over, when they became very powerful.
They saw the Russian peasants, the traditional Russian culture as absolute evil to be eradicated.
Mass murder is okay.
And, you know, the thing is, we have to realize that if this trend continues, if their power continues in this trajectory, we will have gulags here.
We will have genocide here.
Nothing to prevent it.
I mean, have you said that on some level, we already are open-air gulag?
Yeah, they've just updated their tactics to be a little bit more tasty for the average person.
So it doesn't feel quite like you're being oppressed.
But, you know, when things get beyond a certain point, they will take the gloves off.
And, you know, what they're really wanting, you can see that now if you look at what the left wants, what the left wants is totally centralized government in America, getting rid of state election laws, getting rid of any local power over anything, police departments, school boards.
They want to get rid of all that.
They want a centralized top-down control from Washington, D.C. that they control.
And if they are able to do that, who knows what they can do?
I mean, they can ram through anything.
Right now, the FBI is completely corrupt.
The National Security Council, all of our traditional, when I was growing up, people really admired the FBI, but now one corruption after the other and completely politicized.
Yep.
A mother was just arrested, raided in her home with her children and her husband there the other day.
Details sketchy.
I'm always a little bit leery about these articles, but the fact remains that a nonviolent mother who had opposed school board degeneracy and whatnot was she got the battering ram to her front door.
So they're expanding.
Have you paid attention to the signs versus Kessler Charlottesville trial?
We heard Deborah Lipstadt on the stand there.
If you've been able to tune into that, and a friend let me know that you actually testified in David Irving's, I guess, his libel suit against her.
Any tidbits from that, sir, or impressions from the Charlottesville trial, please.
Well, I've been trying to keep up with it.
And Oxville Observer, we have an article today by Glenn Allen, who's an attorney.
And he was a guy that sued the SPLC because they, on the basis of the fact that they had stolen documents and that sort of thing.
He lost his case.
But as you expect, because the legal system is one of the things that is corrupted in our country.
And I worry about the fate of the Sines versus Kessler defendants.
And the article we have in Oxford Observer makes clear things like just the imbalance of resources.
You have millions of dollars going into the plaintiffs here.
Fancy New York law firms, all its expertise.
They can hire expert witnesses, paying $30,000 for these expert witnesses who are nothing but academic ideologues who go in there and this bizarre theory that they speak in code, you know.
So it may not sound violent, but it is, you know.
You get some academic jerk up there saying that, and then he's paid $30,000 to be there or something like that.
That's the thing.
I mean, there's huge money.
And the same thing happened with the Irving trial, where Deborah Lipstadt had the entire Jewish community on their side.
And they're paying off, they're paying historians to write briefs against Irving, that sort of thing.
So that's what you're up against when you're dealing with these people.
But it is a tough case to make.
I understand Christopher Cantwell, especially.
You mentioned him, his closing statement.
I think he performed very well.
And if there's any fairness at all, they will be acquitted because there's really no connection between them and what happened with Fields.
Absolutely.
It's ludicrous.
And Chris did say today he would come on for a post-verdict interview on Full House.
So look forward to that, fam. Dr. McDonald, I don't want to abuse your time at all.
We're so honored to have you on.
I got one or two more questions, if it's okay.
And then we'll see if anybody else has some hanging ones.
Do we overdo it on the Jew thing?
There's a common argument that by either harping or calling attention to Jewish power, you turn off more people than you could turn on via other methods and sort of skating around that.
And you've been through the ringer through your career.
You're now among good company as a public enemy for having the temerity to name them.
But what would you advise regular people or propagandists and good people like us when talking about the JQ?
Well, I think there should be different strategies for different people.
You know, Jared Taylor does not want to deal with Jewish issues.
He's very, very good.
He's very pro-white, and he's got a big following.
I think that's wonderful.
But I think somebody has to talk about it.
We have to know the history.
We have to know what happened.
And ultimately, we have to know where the power is and where this is all coming from and where it's headed.
So I think it's important for someone, for people to do this kind of research and to get that word out there.
But, you know, it's not something that is, you know, you can't convert people with little sound bites of this stuff.
It takes a lot of research.
You have to think about it.
You have to do some reading.
And ultimately, that's not for everybody, obviously.
So, you know, it's not at all.
I don't complain about someone like Jared Taylor that he doesn't salute this research on Jews.
That's fine.
And, you know, he's got a following.
He's doing good, good work.
Very important.
And so that should continue.
And we have to get people on board with white interests.
That's the main thing.
And I would never want to, you know, criticize anyone who's getting people on board with that.
There's only one question.
Are you pro-white or anti-white?
Me?
Yeah.
No, I'm that's like you're saying, you know, this man should continue.
Euphemistic.
Euphemistic.
Make him answer the question.
Yeah.
Don't skate on us here.
Okay, Mac.
It's funny, sir.
When I was teasing the show on Telegram, I said we're going to have Dr. Kevin McDonald on the show to talk about gypsies.
And it was a tongue-in-cheek joke.
Everybody would get it.
And then people started saying, oh, interesting.
Maybe they didn't recognize your name.
But then I think exactly.
I know somebody chimed in.
It was like, oh, actually, he knows a lot about gypsies.
Okay, yeah.
The gypsy, the gypsy.
What's the deal with the gypsies, sir?
Let's do it.
It isn't interesting.
It's sort of the opposite to kind of Jewish.
It's the opposite kind of group strategy.
They are very ethnocentric and all that, but they do not prize education.
They're not very smart.
They're sort of low lives.
Low-level crime is their thing.
So they're not really a threat to take over society.
They're just a pest, you might say.
And they came from, are they arriving?
Yeah, they're exiles.
I think they come from India.
Yeah.
A different diaspora there.
All right.
Well, I mean, I've got more, but I don't want to milk it too bad here.
And I want to give Sam Smasher and Rolo one more chance.
But, sir, the best book on the Jews other than your own that you've encountered.
Something that the layman could appreciate.
What I really like, you know, Andrew Joyce, people should really be aware of Andrew Joyce and Breton Sanderson, people like that who write for the Oxford Observer Naxville quarterly.
And Andrew Joyce had this book forever that's supposed to be coming out.
And I've stopped asking him about it.
It's supposed to be published by Washington Summit Press, Richard Spencer's thing, and it just never gets out.
I don't know why, but if it ever comes out, please read it.
Bretton Sanderson has a book out.
Now I wrote the preface to it.
I think it's called Battle Lines.
And he's got another book coming out, which is going to be on Jewish issues.
Because he's written a lot about that.
He's in Australia and he's written about the white Australia policy.
And just as in America, it was a Jewish influence that created this multicultural Australia that we see now.
So, yeah, these are very important writers.
And they're very, very good.
And at this point, well, as I said, Bretton Chanderson does have a book out called Battle Lines.
He doesn't talk about Jewish issues in there.
He's sort of saving that for a second volume.
And he continues to write about it.
He just wrote a long series on Oxford Observer on Wagner and how these Jewish art critics and music critics have just hammered him.
They hate Wagner because he was anti-Jewish.
And so now they trash his operas.
Or when they stage his operas, they do it in a sort of satirical way that doesn't really get at what Wagner was really about.
And so that's the kind of assault that the Jews have done.
Every aspect of our culture, whether it's the family or art, high art, music, pop art, whatever, You'll find Jewish involvement and a very common street.
He's written a lot about Jews like Mark Rothko in the contemporary art, the whole Dada movement, all that.
These Jewish art critics, I've written a little bit about Clement Greenberg and how he promoted certain artists.
It's a pervasive kind of thing where you get these cohesive Jewish groups and they cite each other, they're on board with each other, and they end up being at the most elite institutions and having huge influence.
So that's the way it's absolutely.
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All right, Sam, Smasher, Rolo, last call for the good doctor.
Are gypsies the Mexicans of Europe?
What?
Are gypsies the Mexicans of Europe?
Oh, sort of, I suppose.
I think Mexicans are cut above gypsies, actually.
Because I think they weren't as dangerous as blacks, but I knew they had something.
You don't think of the gypsies as violent so much as people trying to steal your horse or bag on the street or do some kind of scam, you know?
That sounds black.
I literally caught one probably eight or nine years old with his hand in my wife's purse when we were in, I think it was Moscow, somewhere in Eastern Europe, but I think it was Moscow or maybe St. Petersburg where we caught him.
So they even got him there.
And I had one more here, sir.
Did your university stand by you when you became more infamous than you were originally when you came on?
Did tenureship really protect you or did they try to do some dirty deeds?
Yeah, I was protected by tenure and the university really couldn't do anything.
They issued a statement, sort of, we would distance ourselves from Professor McDonald's work.
We don't agree with it, but that's all they did.
But there was a lot of hostility in the department, and they put out all these statements against me.
And it was very brutal.
I mean, a faculty email list, they would attack me every day for a long time.
And they have the whole College of Liberal Arts pass this resolution against me.
And I stayed there anyway.
Nobody would talk to me.
I just sort of taught my classes and went home.
God bless you, sir, for staying strong and not cucking, as we say.
Yeah, I've got one that I think is kind of interesting from Twitter.
Please.
He prefaces saying that he is absolutely being respectful and he's just generally interested in what you have to say.
And he goes on to ask, You have a theory about the reason why Italians have a higher in-group preference than Swedes because of the weather.
What do you say to critics who point out that Russians are on par with Italians in terms of in-group preference while having similar weather as the Swedes?
Yeah, I think weather ultimately does have something to do with it.
But in my book, Individualism in the Western Liberal Tradition, I trace individualism to Western Europe, especially Northwestern Europe, as being special.
And then the Indo-European influence as well.
But in my view, Scandinavian countries are the most individualistic countries on earth.
And it really goes back prehistorically.
If you look at their family structure, they really are not into extended families and kinship.
Whereas if you go to Southern Europe, you will see that Southern Italy, Russia, the Slavic countries, much more cohesive, you know, these extended family structures.
So we are unique in Western Europe.
You know, this individualism is what's killing us now.
Are you positive toward Russia, sir?
Do you see their obvious renaissance as a good thing for the white race writ large, or do you think they're too Asiatic, too non-Western to have our interests at heart?
I do have hope for Russia.
And I think that it's good that they are standing up and taking different points of view, like in the Middle East.
And they are much hated by the Israel lobby and our foreign policy establishment for that reason.
And I have hope, you know, certainly Putin and certainly people like Orban in Eastern Europe.
These people are definitely on the right side of a lot of things.
They're certainly better than what we have in the West.
And they want to stay Hungarian in Hungary.
And I think Russia wants to stay Russian.
Russia has an unfortunate history of being an empire.
And so you got all these different peoples there and always have been.
So they have to really watch that.
And a lot of people criticize Putin.
He's not nationalist enough.
But I put a lot of faith in, you know, it's no accident.
Eastern Europe is more ethnocentric.
They're more easily recruited for a cohesive movement, traditional family structures and so on.
That is, and so that's our hope is Eastern Europe and Russia that they really stand strong.
And if the West crumbles, we have to go down before we can get up.
We have to lose our power.
And everybody in the world has to realize that the West is a failure because of multiculturalism.
And we have to get over it.
Well said.
Sam, anything left?
Yeah.
I had one more remark, not to extend this too far, but so earlier you made some references to the sexual revolution of the 1960s and how that changed our society.
And it certainly has and continues to reverberate to this day.
I look at that as, Again, like a kind of an end of an epoch where things have become in society like unhealthy.
So people have a natural sexual appetite and a sexual desire that comes on at a certain age.
And at a different time in history, it was possible for a young man of 18 or 20 years old to take a wife and to have a home and to have a family.
I think of my own grandfather who was a post office worker and that was his only job.
And he was able to buy a brick house, not 30-year mortgage buy, but buy a brick house in the neighborhood.
And my grandmother never worked a day in her life and he raised a family on his salary.
So our society should be oriented to be in harmony with nature.
Because today, can an 18 or 20-year-old man go and have a job where he can take on a family, take on a wife and have a family?
No, he can't, obviously.
So I look at the, you know, the explosion of sexual immorality as being, you know, a reaction because of the frustrated natural natural impulses that are in human beings.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, and I think things are going so far extreme now where you're giving hormone treatments to children to change their sex.
And if they think they don't fit into a certain sex.
And so I think it is going too far.
And there is a sort of natural sexuality.
I think of Adolf Hitler.
He spoke about the problem in his time was syphilis.
And so people would have a tendency to moralize and say, well, people shouldn't sleep around.
Well, yeah, sure, they shouldn't sleep around.
But also, there's a natural impulse in nature that is telling people to go and have a sexual experience, a sexual life.
And so our society should be made so that there are jobs for young men of that age so that they can have a wife and they can have children.
And then there wouldn't be in that day the problem of syphilis.
In our day, it's a whole bunch of other problems, AIDS and out of wedlock children and probably syphilis and other things too.
So I just think that this is the socialist part of me that says we need to make sure that society conforms to nature.
If we expect people to act in a moral way, we have to sort of make the way possible.
Yeah, I think that's, yeah, I believe that there is a sort of natural sexuality and natural family structures that fit with us as Westerners.
And that's what's been pathologized, you know, by the sexual revolution.
Right.
Kevin McDonald, thank you so much for your time, for all of your hard work over the years, for your courage.
And I'm, you know, I'm not just fluffing you as a guest here, but I think in the new order that at least on university campuses, you've earned yourself a few statues, maybe some butts.
Thanks a lot.
I enjoyed it.
We can do it again sometime.
You bet.
Yeah, next time we'll talk about actual parenting issues and the psychology of parent-child dynamics and the rest of it.
We would love to do that.
And we will put all of the links to everything from your trilogy to the Occidental Quarterly and Observer to your latest book as well, Individualism and the Western Intellectual Tradition.
Sorry, I'm trying to rush here at the end of the first half.
All right.
Godspeed, good doctor.
And for the break this week, we put on a safe song for Johnny Rebel.
Johnny Rebel's got some real rough words.
He's got some safe songs?
Which one is that?
I'm not aware of that one.
It's an instrumental.
It's called Wake Up.
It's called Wake Up My People.
And yes, enjoy.
This is Wake Up My People from Johnny Rebel.
We'll be right back with a short second half, fab.
Don't go anywhere.
Wake up, my people.
They're deciding our fate.
Will they take this country without fighting a shot?
Wake up, my people, or you lose all you've got.
I know that you're busy, trying to make a dime.
You even work on Sundays to get a little over time.
What good will that do you if your freedom you should lose?
Wake up now.
Now's the time to stand and fight.
We'll try to turn the tide.
Burn one of our cities, they break and kill by night.
Politics is in Wars and tell.
They say that's civil rights.
Wake up, my people, before it is too late.
Wake up, my people.
They're deciding our fate.
Will they take this country without fighting a shot?
Wake up, my people, or you lose all you've got.
Wake up, my people, or you lose all you've got.
Welcome back to Full House 109.
What an honor to have Kevin McDonald on with us on such a very special episodic, numeric significance this week.
It's just by chance that it worked out that way.
A mutual friend said, You should really do an interview with Kevin McDonald.
And I said, Oh, I've always wanted to.
I don't know.
I just always, maybe I thought it was a stretch for us or that he was too busy.
So thank you to that certain special lady who recommended him and put us in touch.
And he was aside from aside from ghosting on us for the original recording thing, it was okay because we just sat here and hung out and chatted for a while while we were waiting for him.
All's well that ends well.
And I do mean seriously, what a brilliant mind and a courageous soul to do all that work and stand tall and still be doing shows and editing and publishing and all the rest of it.
We couldn't be bigger fans of Kevin McDonald.
And send that first half perhaps to the, God forbid, I say Normie or JQ skeptical person in your life because it could change their life, could change the course of all of our lives.
So just do it.
I have a one new white life here, and it's a short, brief, delightful note from our pal Haywood.
And he says, hey, coach, the day finally happened.
Little Haywood number one arrived, and she's the most precious daughter a man could ask for.
She's not fussy at all and the absolute picture of health owing to her great breeding genes from mom.
Baby is doing fantastic.
Mom is having some first time mom stumbles, but every day is finding more solid footing and pushing through.
I'm so proud of my wife for being so courageous throughout.
So to all the prospective white fathers out there, just remember, three is the bare minimum.
Very good, Haywood.
So true.
Some would say four.
You're not skating on three.
But thank you, brother, for the lovely note.
If I recall, Haywood is not exactly short in the tooth.
Maybe I'm wrong.
I haven't met him yet.
But it don't matter.
All the same.
Way to go, Haywood.
We're proud of you.
And we wish you many more.
Can't wait to give that beautiful little cherub a kiss on the forehead over a cold one sometime soon.
And just before we went to tape, of course, I do have to note that Smasher has put on his, not his skull mask, but his muzzle for that first half because we are all, we're literally getting the first crack.
It was about an hour or two before we went to tape with KMAC that we got the footage and the news from Walker Shop, which Sam helpfully reminded me about the pronunciation there as a neighbor from Oshkosh.
He's got them all down, Pat.
Yeah.
And truth be told, when I'm going into a show, I sort of have to zero that stuff out or, you know, blank it out so that I can, I just, you know, I'm particular about doing these shows and having my questions and stuff like that, but everybody else is just on fire and the spinning's already underway as our pal Rolo let us know the absolutely disgusting things that they're saying about this.
So we're going to go to Sam, Smasher, and Rolo right after.
Well, I got one more new white life.
And I don't know the name.
I don't know who it is, but Avalon Rising on Telegram said a delightful white nationalist family.
Just welcome their fifth.
Beautiful baby in the picture.
I believe there was a cross on the father, maybe mother's shirt again.
Just saw that before I went to tape.
So whoever you are out there, congratulations.
And Avalon Rising is at least somehow connected to the Our People Our Year calendar 2022, which you should all buy.
If your homework this week is to subscribe to the Occidental Quarterly, your Christmas shopping homework for sure is to buy that calendar, ourpeopleare.com.
And finally, I did get some updated full house logos in different colors in the shield, just FH, something subtle you can put on a coffee mug or on a t-shirt or on a cap or even on a onesie for a baby that maybe you guys will like.
So next stop, getting that stuff to production and then somehow finding a way to get it to you safely, securely.
And if I have to go to the post office every day, that's the sort of thing that I like to do.
I like to check things off my to-do list.
Sam Smasher Rolo, any other new white life I don't want to just steamroll into this really nice letter here before I do.
No, go ahead.
I don't think so.
Not this time.
All right.
Shame on you both.
All right.
You should have more friends.
Hello, coach.
You ask three people.
Rolo.
Go ahead.
Do you have one?
You didn't respond.
Not this week.
Thank you for asking.
I have to bust your chops a little bit.
You are the producer.
I love you, bro.
No homo.
Seriously.
I love to play along with it.
Your musical.
Okay, good.
I'm smiling here.
Your musical fades.
Just kiss my fingers.
All right.
Hello, coach and full house friends.
After you had Spectre on the other day to talk about the opioid crisis, I felt compelled to write something.
I spent my entire 20s on OxyCotton, then methadone, then suboxone.
I'm not proud of it.
10 years of my life gone because I broke my wrists in a skateboarding accident and got put on painkillers for months.
The best years, as some might say.
I'd give 20 years to have my brother back, though.
Almost exactly three years ago, I lost him to an overdose three weeks before his 30th birthday.
He died alone in his bed and passed quietly in his sleep.
Sometimes there are small mercies in life.
I heard about Kratom from a friend and used it to minimize the withdrawals as I was quitting.
It was a miracle, and I shared it with my little brother.
We both got off suboxone.
I got really into pro-white politics.
He remained as he was, disinterested in his own destiny.
He still wanted to get high.
Now, while Kratom is a miracle for quitting, it isn't quite enough.
It doesn't help the spiritual aspect of addiction.
Addicts need something to care about, something to believe in.
They need a horizon to yearn for.
Otherwise, it's really easy to backslide and to relapse.
Why not?
An addict isn't going to quit just because they know it's bad for them.
Their brain chemistry has been changed way past that point.
They need something greater to aspire to, but that's a very hard thing to give someone, and you can't force it.
I don't have the answer, but I felt like sharing my thoughts on this subject, and I wanted to keep it brief.
I love the show.
Thanks for what you guys do.
You help keep me sane for a couple hours every week while I'm working.
Hail, Victory, brothers.
And that's from Jamie.
Jamie said I could say that name on the air.
Thank you, Jamie.
Sad.
Sad honor.
Sad, though, yes.
Yeah.
And here, yeah, here's the thing.
First off, of course, the loss of your brother and God knows how many thousands of white brothers out there passing due to essentially Jewish dope.
Yeah.
You got to have something to live for, though.
Yeah.
I want to say that there's nothing better than what we're offering, not us at Full House, but us in the pro-white cause because it's true and virtuous, and you couldn't ask for worse enemies, right?
That's right.
Get somebody to become a Nazi and wake up to the world and start lifting and start getting interested in having kids and living wholesomely, but still keeping his edge.
It might just be enough.
Yep.
And if you have to chew on some Asian freaking leaf to get whatever it takes um, all right, Smasher Rollo Sam.
Uh, let's talk about Waukasha.
We've got first crack at this.
Me, Mr Conservative, I was loath to jump on.
Yeah it's, it's tragic um, it's enraging.
Of course, we're just getting some of the details now.
Uh, uh it.
It makes you want to lash out somewhere on the internet maybe, or in uh to to friends.
I would, I would caution you better be careful about that.
Well, so we've got uh posts and videos and stuff from this guy's social media.
Um, I can't remember.
Oh, god damn it trying to scroll through all these screenshots.
Um, Daryl Edward Brooks he was released like just a few days ago on a thousand dollar bond.
Multiple uh long rap sheet, really long rap sheet and uh, lots of posts on social media with anti-white stuff like this.
This guy has clearly just hopped up on anti-white narratives fed to him by the Jewish media and he felt as if he could go out and just kill white people.
In response to the written house verdict, yeah and uh, I think we should all prepare ourselves for the disgusting way that this is going to be covered in the media and uh, and that's where our, our mutual associations come in in an important way, I think, is because when we're alone, when we're isolated, when we're lashing out, when we're desperate, that's when we're in danger.
But when we can talk together about this, um and you know what I mean work it out it.
I think that's healthy for people.
We do need to, to talk about this and and react to it in the right way, and it should uh, redouble our commitment to this thing we have and, and no doubt this, this brings new people to it because it's it's raw emotional reaction.
You know, you look at this opportunistically and this, this sounds cocky.
Oh how, how can we spin narratives on this?
How can we use this tragedy to our advantage?
But um you this, this is one where you can just hit people in the face with the truth.
An innocent white boy got acquitted rightfully, in a court of law and the Jewish media spun it up as some great injustice, as some uh, carte blanche to go kill people at a protest.
And now you have Tyran plowing over young, innocent Christmas march Darrell.
Young, innocent kids in one of the whitest towns and one of the probably most innocent, non-hateful god who knows what the you know politics are of Waukasha and its environs.
They're just trying to have a Gd Christmas parade yeah, and then you, and then you, and then you get the same thing that you're.
Remember Europe's been quiet.
You remember when you saw that that van plow into nice?
Yeah, and it happened in Germany, it happened in England, and now wasn't a Muslim.
This time you can't point to Islamic fanaticism or radical Islamic terrorism.
You can point to black terrorism.
It's anti-white hatred Rollo.
Did you?
Did you talk about the way that they're spinning this, that they were trying to get away from the scene of a crime?
And There's two sides of, I'll use not the word that I was going to use, but on the left, everyone on Twitter was saying, like, oh, the car was just defending themselves.
Oh, it came out.
It's a black.
They're all deleting their teeth.
They're all deleting their tweets.
It's like, oops, you got caught as you always do, you morons.
But on the right, they're saying that he was fleeing the scene.
So this guy was fleeing the scene, which again, you know, it's possible that a black may be fleeing the scene of a crime as they commit crimes a lot.
But then he's opening fire.
You don't open the fire when you're fleeing.
And even if they weren't, even if they were fleeing the scene.
Yeah, go ahead, Smasher.
Oh, well, we're probably going to say the same thing that, like, even if you're fleeing the scene of a crime, why do you see a Christmas parade going on and decide to drive through it?
Unless you have unless you have malicious intent to hurt more people.
And this nigger has these goddamn anti-white rap songs out talking about killing white people and praising that nigger kite, Colin Kaepernick, talking about nigger revolution in the United States and all this anti-white bull.
This is an anti-white hate crime.
It is anti-white terrorism.
And this nigger is hyped up on this kite propaganda.
And it's exactly what happened.
This nigger decided he was going to kill white people and he did it.
Well, one of the main things I wanted to talk about with that is they're protecting people like conservatives from the horrors of racial violence.
When they say he's fleeing the scene of a crime, that's not for liberals.
Like liberals don't, they don't care.
They'll just go along with anything.
Their only morals are what they can fit in their butt.
But conservatives, like they, they're terrified that they may have to face the reality that blacks will kill them because they're white, because they've been fed by all their talking heads.
Race doesn't matter.
Oh, only the left talks about race.
But they're designed to tell conservatives, hey, hey, hey, your goal is to ignore race so you can just roll over and accept your defeat and your replacement.
That's the thing that's aggravating.
It would be such a radical departure for them to even dip their pinky toe in pro-white politics in response to this that I, one, of course, I can't see it happening.
And two, if it did, that would be a radical paradigm shift, even for the, you know, Willie Horton.
The GOP has used race politics sort of dog whistles in the past.
I will also admit, yeah, oh, yeah, God, that was 30 years ago.
I'll admit, too, that we've seen enough of this all over the world, right?
When it happens in Germany, to be honest, it hurts me as much as when it happens in Wisconsin, whatever that says about me.
And observing the channels and the chats and the pure unbridled rage, I will cop here on the air to say, it's it's more like it personally, it was it's more of the same.
Would you surprise that that's just me?
You should be angry.
You should want injustice.
And that's the real thing is if something happened that was, there's going to be some event that is so bad that white people chimp out, right?
Maybe this may be a lot of fun.
I got a proposition for you, though.
Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is, like, am I driving?
I'm not driving to Waukesha tonight.
I focused on recording the show as I am sort of like cracking my knuckles here and trying to channel Smasher Energy, but I'm just being honest on the air, right?
I don't want to like deflate anybody or be you should you should totally uh expect and anticipate this.
Like, this is, of course, by design, that's why these you know, these Jews put out this anti-white propaganda because they want to see white people dead, accustomed to this, yeah, right?
Like, part and parcel, yeah, yeah, right, exactly, part and parcel.
Well, they and they know that, well, at this point, white people aren't doing anything about it, so they can get away with it.
Like, we haven't had the white chimp out yet, so you know, they can keep stoking those racial flames.
Like, hey, blacks, they let Kyle Rittenhouse killed 50,000 black people and we let him off, and they're dumb enough to believe it.
Yeah, I guarantee you, these guys did it because they think Kyle Rittenhouse killed a bunch of black people.
I guarantee we hiked up Old Rag in Virginia, brought Junior with me.
Wonderful day this weekend.
I'm not shifting gears whatsoever.
Just white men hiking up a mountain, taking some victory photos, and then going back to a campfire to have some cold ones and tell stories.
And at one point, I just said, Listen, you know, at the way things are going, eventually things will get so bad that so many of us will have either snapped or have nothing left to lose that that's when it will kick off.
Now, that's a little bit cope too, dear listener.
Like, oh, there's always one future atrocity to really make us angry, right?
You risk sinking into acceptance of this, that, and the other thing, waiting for something that's that's so far beyond the pale that you can't sit on your hands.
Uh, there was even a debate about like, oh, this is a time for banners in Wisconsin, and somebody else was like, F that, you know, like, this is not about banners, right?
Um, but yeah, and of course, with the enemy listening and everything, you have to be careful about your human emotions and all this stuff.
But what human who is a member of a race of an extended family, which is the white race, would not feel righteous hatred, vitriol, and a desire for revenge at seeing young white kids slaughtered in a Christmas parade.
If you're not, if that doesn't piss you off, if that doesn't get your blood pressure elevated, I submit that you are so far gone that you are not even human anymore.
You're so programmed, or you're on the take from the enemy.
Um, God, those parents, those parents, that's the and that's the other thing too.
Can you imagine?
I can't.
No, it's so so blessed.
So, never.
I have a proposition for you.
After this, the McMichaels get indicted on all charges of first-degree murder, and they potentially face the death penalty.
How about that?
Yeah, oh, I'm pretty sure.
Like, what, what that would be a pretty good wake-up call, I think, for white people.
Like, hey, you know, a bunch of blacks just killed white people for their skin color, and then a jury put a bunch of white people in jail for a crime they didn't commit because of their skin color.
Yeah, and all this stuff is so meme-saturated, too.
You can just see the leftist hive mind both pivot from Kyle and pivot from James Fields and say, Oh, what are you gonna do now?
Gotcha, right?
Black guy driving his car into the crowd.
What are you gonna act high and mighty on that one?
No, they're deleting the tweets.
Yeah, they that never happened.
Nope.
What are you talking about?
Their whole life is a public is on public record because they tweet out on Instagram everything they do.
And now they just oops.
But you're saying that the enemy is recognizing that they mistakenly, triumphantly trumpeted this one, and now they're like tucking tail and deleting evidence.
Well, they're trying to, but I'm saving it as fast as they can post it.
You're supposed to be working for this show, Rolo.
I'm sorry.
This happened.
This happened five hours ago.
Yeah.
I've been watching it all day.
You guys screaming.
You guys smash your screaming into a pillow.
Yeah.
Well, I have a pillow that's shaped like Tamir Rice, and I just scream into it.
So do they have all of them or just some of them?
I think it looks like they have.
Yeah, they have Daryl and Devereen.
Devon Reen?
E-V-O-N-E-R-E, Devonir.
Devonier, it looks like.
They're both, they're BLM activists.
So there's no way that they can wrangle this narrative.
There's no way.
I have no idea what they're going to do.
Well, then that just goes to show you that BLM should itself be prosecuted and pursued legally as a terrorist organization.
Clearly, these guys are inspired by the words of the BLM movement, and therefore the BLM movement is liable for these deaths.
Well, remember, the last time that BLM was activated, it ended with a shootout in Dallas with a bunch of cops getting shot and then a robot having to blow itself up when this BLM Negro locked himself in a storage room or whatever.
Well, Suzanne Rosenberg is their treasurer.
So clearly there is some kind of top-down leadership that can be tried for this.
I don't know how like with Antifa, it's a little different because there's no like, this is the leader of Antifa.
You know, they're kind of in the shadows, but BLM is open.
So yeah, take them down.
Go get them.
Charge them.
And they have a lot of money.
They have a lot of money.
They should be held liable for these deaths.
Who would do this charging and prosecution?
I dare ask.
I was going to say, pretend that you care about justice.
It would be Merrick Garland, but Merrick Garland's probably going to go after the children that are still alive for denting a poor African-American's car.
Yeah, need to take Kyle's defense attorney and turn him into a prosecutor.
That guy single-handedly sort of resurrected the idea of defense attorneys in my mind with his sort of no-nonsense seeming commitment to truth and justice and actual defense of innocent people.
Yeah, I mean, hey, listen, if you're listening to this, it's your obligation to push back on this, whether you're online or your IRL.
And Thanksgiving is coming up.
Heaven help us.
You should be screaming at people at Thanksgiving, telling them exactly what happened.
And when your retarded liberal aunt or your dumb bitch cousin tries to cry about it, you should tell them to shut up and get the wrong and that it's time to look reality in the face.
Because if they don't listen to you, that's going to be them and their children dead in the streets.
Oh, and don't let your your your boomer your your boomer conservative family members try to pull that crap of well I heard he was fleeing the scene of the crime.
No, You make sure.
No, no, no.
It was because they're black.
They saw a group of white people.
And that was the perfect opportunity for them to do damage because they are driven by hatred of our skin color.
So what I'm hearing is that this Thanksgiving, 2021, the year of our Lord, this is weapons free, figuratively, metaphorically speaking.
You are not biting your tongue at Thanksgiving when your shitbag leftist family members, uncles, aunts, cousins, brothers, sisters, moms, and fathers are spewing bullshit garbage before and at, during, and after dinner.
I mean, just look me in the eyes and be like, that could be you.
That could be you and little Susie dead in the street.
Because you think that what I think is wrong, because you don't see race.
Because the FBI, an extremely corrupt, anti-white organization, still has the smallest amount of honesty left to tell us that like 2% of the population, 6% of the population commits 50%, like 4% of violent crime.
Well, you're racist, Smasher, and Daryl had a very challenging life, and he suffered under systemic white supremacy his entire life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I've been there so many times with those damn conversations.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's not good that it happened, but that doesn't mean that you have to make race a thing about it.
The group is called Black Lives Matter.
They're the one that brought it up.
It's like that to me, it's like the most maddening thing.
It's like they're out there like, we're black.
We're doing it because we're black.
And these people are like, it has nothing to do with race.
It's just, it's all about injustice.
It's like, what injustice?
This guy was let out on bond for $1,000.
Kyle Rittenhouse was a million-dollar bond for self-defense for doing nothing wrong.
This guy, I'm sure he killed someone, cut their head off and played soccer with it.
Or he was like a sex offender.
And so we've got second degree, recklessly endangering safety, domestic abuse, disorderly conduct, domestic abuse, battery, domestic abuse, resisting or obstructing an officer, bail jumping felony.
It's like, how many times does this guy like, like, why is he just not dead?
And not like in a Fed posty way, but like, this guy's clearly not fit for society.
He should have been put down.
After the first crime, once we got these guys locked up for something, they should just keep them in there.
It's not like they're going to go on to do something better in life.
Come on, he just had an ounce of weed on him.
They overcharged him.
Yeah.
I don't care if it's some minor offense.
Let's get him off the street now.
That's our opportunity.
Otherwise, they do things like this.
It's never a minor offense, too.
You always hear that platitude is, oh, they're put away for 20 years for having an ounce of weed on them.
It's always, they just always have an ounce of weed where that's like slang for like they like beat their child half to death.
This is what Wisconsin men want to fight.
This is what Wisconsin men went to fight in the Civil War for to preserve the union and for niggers to be able to run over their posterity in a Christmas parade.
Good thing we beat Hitler, you know, because then what?
Yeah, this is very tough doing a live-breaking current event on the air when I wasn't quite prepared for it.
I'm supposed to be, and I am angry, but we also have a show to do.
So Well, this happened and I like got sucked into it, obviously, because there's a lot going on on Twitter.
And my fucking Twitter account is locked right now.
I can't do anything.
But that made it easy since I couldn't interact with anybody.
All I could do is just browse and absorb it all.
And I was just like, fuck.
Do his watch.
They made me watch.
Well, it just makes everything we do that much more important.
You know, this is just another reminder, not that you need one, but let it fuel your energy and whatever you do.
Talking to people, doing the good works that you do, if you post stuff, whatever it is.
You know, that's just shows us how important it is.
I would like to make a comment.
I remember when the niece thing happened.
I feel like this is a very similar incident, except it's, except it's, it's like magnified because it's here at this time.
Like back then, we were all kind of like, oh, those dang Muslims, I don't like them.
I don't want them here.
But now it's like blacks are not only out of control, but they've shown that they are uncontrollable.
And then this is our niece.
This is our Ebba.
And it's not going to stop because at least with Muslims, Jews don't like them to an extent because Muslims openly hate Jews.
But they're not going to do anything like that for blacks.
There's going to be no clampdown on this.
So this is the beginning.
Yeah.
Well put, Rolo.
You should have your own show.
I'm a little nervous on the mic.
I don't know about that.
Hey, Rolo, I wanted to give you credit.
You made a wonderful video montage music video devoted to St. Kyle.
And that is, it's up on your new unit on your original Telegram and your uncensored Telegram.
If I'm allowed to say that it's the final storm, uncensored or unmuzzled, whatever.
I will, yeah, I'll put that in the show notes for people to enjoy.
Great work.
All right.
Let's see.
My second half content here was going to be multi-generational families and living near grandma and grandpa, possibly in very close proximity.
I don't know if that works.
Sam, you mentioned that you had a couple things that you wanted to mention.
Not putting you on the spot, but happy to take here.
And unless Smasher would like to drop another F-bomb or two.
Or two.
Or quote something else from Fall Metal Jacket.
Well, you know, I just had a little couple little comments you guys can comment or not, and we can move on.
But, you know, we have this ongoing situation.
You know, we switched churches some months ago.
My youngest son and I had been altar servers and they closed that church down for stupid reasons, but which was fine because we were able to switch over to somewhere else.
There's more choices than there were, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago.
And so we've been going here and I've mentioned a few different things about incidents and things that have happened there.
Well, I've I mentioned before back on All Saints Day, I saw a skinhead in attendance, you know, and I tried to catch up with him and I was not able to.
So I've been my had my eye out for him to try to make contact with him.
And I didn't know if he was somebody who's maybe out of town or somebody who's just, you know, it's not their regular parish.
It happened to be a holy day of obligation.
So I've been on the lookout for him.
And so then I saw him again last week and I said, oh, man, I got to try to catch up with him.
And I was not successful to do it.
So I said, well, that's it.
So today I went in there, full colors unfurled so that, you know, just in the same way as he is signaling in a sense to be seen, I let my colors fly.
So if he sees me, you know, he might also seek me out.
So I went in there and, but no, it was nothing doing because he wasn't there today.
So unfortunately that.
But then the priest announced that, hey, they're kicking this Latin mass group out of this church because of apparently some kind of complaint.
I can only imagine what it was.
But he only remarked that it's sad that just a few people can have so much power to harm an entire group.
And so apparently they're being chased out of this church because the church is something that exists there with a congregation, but then the Latin Mass group pays some kind of rent or somehow shares in the cost, but operates kind of separately.
And so now, on one hand, it's enraging that that could be because who knows what it's about, but the difference between a trad Catholic and your average Catholic might be such where that other person's going to have their feelings hurt in some way, you know.
But it's unfortunate in some way, but I can only hope that it makes these people mad, you know, gets them more riled up and to make them more active to see that, yes, indeed we have enemies that are trying to hurt us, trying to drive us out, and so forth.
So, yeah, that's all I had to say on that.
Sure.
And it harkens back to, I was thinking about, well, I was thinking about a lot of things as you were speaking there, Sam.
K-Max comments about Jared Taylor not necessarily naming the Jew, but doing good work otherwise.
And that, you know, for guys like us, we're tempted to be like, come on, like, that's a missed opportunity, et cetera.
But that's his angle.
That's his vector to do good work.
And I agree with that.
Yeah.
The other thing is it's funny.
I took Junior for the hike, as I mentioned, and it was a wonderful time.
We hiked the mountain.
Granted, probably millions of people have done it.
And I got back home and finally was able to log into my phone and see people that were out hunting.
They had deers in their sights.
And I was like, oh, man, I've never shot and killed a deer and harvested it for food.
And then another Alpha Chad was like, I won a weightlifting competition today.
Seriously.
i'm derailing the other thing though is that there was a so well i'll stick on that first Basically, you know, like people love to trumpet their successes.
I do it.
Everybody does it.
Like, that's the name of life, right?
When you're proud of something, you trumpet it.
And people who don't have those successes or joys in their lives are tempted.
I think it's human nature to be like, hmm, you know, like, oh, I don't have that going on.
Like, a good person is supposed to be like, yay, good for you.
When, like, in the darker aspects of their soul, they're like, that sucks.
I don't have that one in my kind of shade of jealousy or something.
Sure.
Yeah, exactly.
Absolutely.
It's human nature.
And I felt that too.
I was like, oh, I haven't been weightlifting.
I haven't been out hunting this season.
But I did, come to think of it, hot damn, I climbed a mountain with my son.
And sure as hell, there's some listener probably out there like, I don't even have son to climb mountains.
Right, yeah.
Well, but yeah, there's some people in Ohio that don't even have mountains.
Broke ass.
You can't do everything, but you can do something.
So do the something that you can do.
Exactly.
And what I was really trying to circle back to, Sam, was the conversation the other night about Christian identity.
I don't know if you caught up with all that, but that was in addition to your comments on this show and the deliberation about Jacob and Esau and race mixing and Jesus and the thing.
I will, I'll grant you, you know, McMahon meme level.
Like, too, I am like so stubbornly, reflexively, not hostile, but just resistant to that idea.
But that one really did get my noggin jogging.
And to bring it truly full circle, I have a friend who actually went to a Christian monastery, sort of like a retreat thing.
Yeah.
And he went in and I don't know where it was or like which denomination it was.
He's just like, yeah, I went, I needed to like get my head straight.
So I went and hung out with Christians for a long time.
And he came out from it very negative towards Christianity.
He was like, I am, I'm more negative towards Christianity than I was before.
And that was the exact opposite of me, which was more positive toward Christianity than I ever had before.
You know, more or less, after seeing very intelligent and men dedicated to the truth talk about Christian identity or Christian history, historicity, issues in terms of race and the Levant and all of that.
Yeah, just trying to just trying to tell the story in a straight way, because what you get from the churches is it's kind of fragmented and sometimes contradictory even.
And the Christian identity, I think, really lays it out good, where you can go read it yourself and say, oh, yeah, I see how that all connects, you know?
And I guess, you know, in my heart of hearts, what I'm trying to give people is, you know, that people are estranged from religion in a lot of ways and for good reasons and everything like that.
But I guess I'm trying to, whatever, however you believe about it and all its details and things, I'm just trying to give it back to you.
It was taken from you.
And rather than you feeling somehow apart from it or against it even, I'm trying to hand it right back to you and say, no, man, Jesus is your guy, man.
He was a white man.
Sure.
And I'm willing to entertain that for sure.
And I don't even, you know, as a as a raised Christian, but a non-Christian currently, like, it's not important to me to shoehorn, quote unquote, shoehorn Christianity into white nationalism or vice versa.
I don't have a dog in that fight.
You know, I'm going to be pro-white regardless of Jesus.
But it would be pretty cool to have God to have God's son on your side.
Yeah.
But to me, all that matters is being, I want the truth about history.
And then to really make that leap into the supernatural or the metaphysical requires another step too that, you know, you can't always, of course, justify through scripture or through writing and stuff like that.
There's a whole host.
You know, one of the guys who was actually preaching white or Christian identity precepts, essentially.
And then I was like, yeah, but why did God send his son down then and then seemingly take off on vacation?
He's like, I'm still working on that, right?
Which was a very human response.
I thought that was nice.
He didn't give me some doctrine error.
Well, shut up, disbeliever.
Just get with the program.
One, it gives me a headache and it gives me childlike excitement as well to possibly have a couple of guests on to talk about that stuff.
And I will, quote unquote, play the ignorant host, but that's what I said.
I was like, this just needs an ignorant but competent host to try to flesh all this stuff out.
But it is very fascinating.
And I grant today more to that theology or that angle of looking at religion and Jesus and Christianity than I did before.
And I wanted to ask KMAC about that too, but it was just, it would have gone too down in the weeds.
And from my understanding, he would take a very opposite approach to that type of thing.
And I didn't want to try to have like a big argument with him about it.
You know, I mean, we can be on the same side and disagree or something.
Maybe it needs the right moment to say, you know, well, what about this angle?
Have you ever thought of that?
You know, there's, I think that there would be some kind of little spot there where, but to just force it in there where it would sound like I'm attacking him or something, that's not the right thing to do.
You went hard on him as you were already.
But hey, he was the one who volunteered to come back on again.
So we'll do that for sure.
Or maybe I would want to talk to him like almost one-on-one and just say, well, what do you think about, you know what I mean, rather than have the pressure of like you're saying something publicly.
And then if we did have that type of discussion, then we'd say, well, let's talk about that more on the show.
Maybe that might work that way.
Absolutely.
We'll go around the horn real quick and ask you guys.
We didn't have this prepped, but it's sort of in line with the multi-generational living.
Got a good buddy who's really big on not communal living.
He doesn't want us all living in an apartment tower or whatever, but the idea of us all living in close proximity, either to ourselves as members of the cause or with grandma, grandpa, uncles, cousins, et cetera.
I guess I'll go first and just say for whatever this says, I do treasure privacy and a little bit of the peace of mind that comes with getting back home and being home and not necessarily having a lot of people around to observe or judge or stop in.
I remember when I went to college, it was three hours away.
DC was three hours from South Jersey.
And both my parents and me at the time agreed, like, oh, that's a sweet spot.
You know, you can hop on a bus to come home if you want, but you're not popping in to do laundry.
You know, you're getting out to be your own man.
I certainly didn't want to be on the opposite side of the country.
And when I love going back to visit my parents and bringing in the grandkids there, but I also honestly can't say that I wish that they lived next door to me or even around the corner, right?
Three hours is too far away, but I wouldn't want them that close.
I like the nuclear family model.
Maybe we are doing the multi-generational thing.
And that may just reflect what I grew up in, what I was programmed by.
But I think what's tricky about it is There always needs to be a hierarchy.
And sometimes if you have parents, you know, they are your parents.
And, but now you're in charge.
But do they understand that?
Is that clear?
Is it even clear to yourself?
You know, so if your mother or your mother and father or whatever type of other person would be living with you, that dynamic has got to be clear.
And sometimes, I think really a lot of times it's just made clear by who's the one who's really in charge, who's really paying the bills, you know, personality and all that.
But sometimes other factors just make it a little confusing.
And I think that's where, like you say, you know, that's that's why you want to have privacy and stuff like that.
But, you know, there's, there's all kinds of things.
I think in previous times, there would be the other person's house or dwelling would be built on the same property.
And so you did have kind of separate places to be, but you were also close by because that was like maybe what was feasible because you own the land, right?
So you just build another structure there.
But also it's good to have family nearby.
And it would be great to, I can only imagine the fun we would have if we all lived on the same block.
You know, that would be great.
Yeah, I think I'm not red-filled on this yet.
I think I'm still programmed a little bit by, you know, modernity.
Oh, I need my privacy and my relations with my parents.
You know, it's too awkward or, you know, they get too much on your nerves.
Smasher, you, you, you currently live with your parents.
So I was like, gosh.
No, I, you know, my parents only live about 40 minutes away, and it's nice to be able to, oh, God, I'm going to lose it.
Sorry, I'm still coughing and dying.
But my parents live like 40 minutes away, and it's a pretty good distance.
You know, it's they're they're far enough that it's hard for them to just like show up without some type of notice.
They still do it sometimes, but generally speaking, you know, they have to at least call us.
Even if we're not expecting them, they have to at least call us to make sure that we're home or something.
It's not like we're five minutes away and they can just swing by.
And if we're home or not, it's not a big deal because it's only five minutes.
You know, it's somewhat of a commitment.
I think I would actually have an easier time living in close proximity to people that aren't family than family because there is no upsetting that power structure where with family, you know, like you were saying, Sam, it does kind of get into awkward ground of like, okay, well, these are my, just because you're my dad doesn't mean that these children are your children or whatever.
Like, I'm still in charge here.
I'm head of the family now, old man.
The future is here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Rolo actually sued his parents for emancipation when he was 18 or 17.
So he has a unique perspective.
He did it when he was 25.
He didn't realize it was not a thing.
It was not necessary.
You know what, Sam?
Just repeat every private conversation we have.
Oh, my gosh.
These attendees are overcooked.
That's it.
I've had it.
Undercooked.
I didn't want to salmonella.
Well, you know, funny that you brought up what you did because I actually bought the house next door to my mother because I was living in the communist hellhole, California.
And I escaped and I moved where I did to be closer to my family.
Most of my family is, I think, at most, like 30 minutes away.
And my sister is like two towns over, but I think multi-generational living is a good thing.
I mean, not, you know, not like in the same house, but I told my mother that when she is old and frail and useless, she can live with me instead of going to a home.
No problem with that.
Yeah.
Does she call you a good egg?
You seem like a good egg, Rolo.
She doesn't call me a good egg, but she definitely likes me much more than my sister.
And it's not even close.
That's what really counts.
Wow.
Get one up on your sister.
Well, as far to the right that I am, like, my sister is the opposite end.
Oh, boy.
Total.
Like, she likes drag queens and crap.
I mean, how could a parent like that child?
I mean, my husband obviously doesn't hate my sister.
She loves my sister, but I'm clearly the superior child.
Clearly.
Yes, absolutely, brother.
Thank you for that.
That was great.
Yeah.
And I just, it reminds me of when I put out the poll about would you rather live country, suburb, or urban in an all-white society.
It was overwhelmingly country, and I don't think people were virtue signaling there.
I mean, there were a good amount.
It was 10% urban, 30% suburban, 60% country, I think, consistently, both public and private.
And as our main man, Dio Vin DJ, said, he was like, I'm sorry, but I need to be able to take a leak off my front porch and have a pot shot at this or that to feel totally sane and comfortable in my surroundings.
And I totally get that.
And yeah, grandma and grandpa or mom and dad, you don't always want them right next to you.
You got to have a life of your own.
Anyway, we gave it a little stab there.
Maybe we'll revisit.
And I think we have done good service by our audience, by the white race, by Hitler, by Odin, by Jesus Christ, and perhaps by Kevin McDonald.
I think so.
All right.
Sammy baby, thank you so much.
Oh, thanks.
What a great show.
A good discussion.
And thanks to Kevin McDonald.
That's right.
Our honor.
Smasher, buddy.
Stay strong.
And seriously, you beat the bug as I would only expect you to while working and without complaining about it.
Hey, thanks for having me back after, you know, my fight with AIDS.
And thank you to Dr. McDonald.
It was great to have him on.
That's right.
And thanks for letting me freak out.
Not at all.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll see about, you know, I honestly don't want to censor you.
We'll see about the F-bombs.
Maybe we'll just, there you go, Rolo.
It's over to your court if you want to bleep all that or I don't know.
Easy.
Just let it roll.
All right.
He's a pro.
He's a pro.
Rolo, thank you very much for being with us.
You've been great.
Don't let me give you any guff.
No, I'm not blowing up.
Do it anyway.
I'm blowing K-Fabe.
Yes.
We got to keep up the appearances for the audiences.
No, no good, no child having producer.
You've been great.
All right.
Full House 109 was recorded on another brilliant November 21st, now 22nd, 2021.
It was a full moon when we first sat down to record with Dr. McDonald, but now I can't see anything out there.
It's Thanksgiving this week, and apparently weapons free rhetorically with your family members.
I think that is justified.
This is no time to mince words amidst libtards.
Also, since we're recording here on a Sunday night, I don't know what we're going to do about a show this week.
Maybe we'll do a Sam vocal recording or something.
So, yeah, I think that would be nice to do.
Follow us on Telegram, gab at full-house.com, and drop us a line to Full House Show at ProtonMail.com with anything on your mind.
And to all of our listeners out there dreading the looming court decisions, we've got two to go.
Kyle was a good start.
We're batting a thousand there.
We're waiting on Seville and the McMichaels.
And if you have any knowledge of why we're in this boat, and after listening to this episode, if you don't know why good men are in the dock for doing nothing wrong, God help you, but that's great that you're listening.
We salute you.
And instead of Johnny Rebel this week, in keeping with the spirit of Waukesha and the young white kids, turning my camera on, Sammy, baby, thank you, who deserve to live their lives happily in all ways.
And they were literally cut short tonight.
We're going with Seek and Destroy by Metallica.
Just use this.
It's a straight adrenaline shot right into your jugular.
And we love you, fam.
We will never stop.
We will never quit.
White Pride worldwide, we salute you.
And we'll talk to you next week.
See ya.
See ya.
Standing the scene in the scene tonight.
We're looking for you to start up the fight.
There's an evil feeling in our brains.
But it's nothing new.
You know what drives us to say.
Running on our way out.
You will be tired without the nets.
Running on our way out.
You will be tired without the net.
Susan.
Seek and destroy.
Susan.
Seek and destroy.
Susan.
Seek and destroy.
Surgeon.
Seek and destroy.
There is no escape.
And that's what's going on.
This is the end, we won't take anymore.
Say goodbye to the world you live in.
You always been taking, and now you're giving.
Running, I know we had it.
You'll be dying without the death.
Running, I know we had it.
You made higher without the death.
So Jam, seek and destroy it.
So Jam, seek and destroy.
Sergeant, seek and destroy it.
PUSHING!
And it won't go away until our dreams are fulfilled.
There is only one thing on our minds.
Try one and away, cause you're the one we will find.
Running on our way out.
You will be dying without the death.
Running on our way out.
You will be dying without the death.
Sergeant, seek and destroy.
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