There are not one, not two, but three national political trials simultaneously underway that are brutal yet useful reminders of our oppression in the so-called land of the free and home of the brave.
In Wisconsin, 18-year-old sharpshooter Kyle Rittenhouse faces life in prison for the crimes of self-defense, Good Samaritanism, Second Amendment exercise, and whiteness amidst a riot.
In Georgia, the McMichaels and their neighbor face life in prison or the death penalty for self-defense, Second Amendment exercise, and actual community defense amidst a spate of local break-ins and robberies.
And of course, in Virginia, a whole host of men are being sued by a gaggle of Jew lawyers and lying plaintiffs for the crime of exercising their First Amendment rights, self-defense, and daring to flip the bird to Jewish power, historical desecration, and pervasive anti-white hatred amidst a sea of snarling, armed, and obviously violent Antifa.
All three cases are connected, and none of them would have ever gone to court in an honest and virtuous country.
We will have that kind of home again eventually, because no empire of lies that persecutes its founding stock lasts forever.
And this week, we are honored to welcome two of the best advocates and fighters for our people to talk everything from Charlottesville to southern nationalism to the opioid epidemic.
Mr. Producer, let's roll.
Welcome, everyone, to episode 108 of Full House, the world's most beloved show, perhaps for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole bio fam.
I am your grateful that monthly cell phone minute limits are a thing of the past host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of the finest coverage of the issues that matter most to our people in a mostly family-friendly fashion.
We'll see how one of our guests do.
A little worried about him, not the other one.
You'll see what I mean.
Before we meet the birth panel and our special guests, though, big thanks this week to Joe B, Strength Shack, and Josh for their support of the show.
And if you missed our Full House interview with Cantwell from the Clink last week, please do check it out.
Chris sounded like he was all smiles, positive energy.
And now after his performance in court today, he is forever to be known as the dancing Nazi after cutting a jig while playing a video of Antifa in the streets long after the state of emergency was declared that day.
So we're upgrading him again to the dancing Nazi.
He earned it.
And if you'd like to support our efforts, please check us out at full-house.com or gibsendgo.com slash fullhouse.
All right, enough of me.
Let's get on to the birth panel.
first up he claims he was not in charlottesville but legend has it he was rolling deep riding shotgun with james fields bailing out into a barrel roll just before impact sam you abandoned man at the that's i should i you were not in charlottesville you You were not riding with James Fields.
Let's be clear.
Yeah.
Would have been a lot cooler if you did.
Yeah, would that I was.
I don't even know what to say.
I don't think any of my cheap shots are even worthy of these guests and the topics coming up on the show.
I don't know what to say, though.
I was chatting with the guys offline there about my son and I just got back from meeting up with the troops of St. George.
You know, this is the Catholic version of the Boy Scouts.
I pulled my son out of the Boy Scouts a few years ago.
He'd been in there about three years, but just got too faggy, you know, and happened to get involved with these guys and they seem pretty cool.
So we're giving it a try.
Amen.
Yep.
We got somebody who's going to come on to talk about trail life, and we also need somebody to talk about St. George.
So that's another one in the hopper.
I got the long list of topics for us to cover this long winter that's imminent.
Well, our resident knucklehead and troublemaker Smash is out this week because he just let me know he is COVID positive.
So he is recuperating and I'm guessing he's going to be back next week.
I can't imagine that bug is going to keep him down for too long.
So that means we can move right on to our two special guests.
First of the two in making his full house debut about two years too late, in my humble opinion.
If being one of the most prolific, insightful, and entertaining propagandists and provocateurs in our cause doesn't work out, I'm tempted to say he just might have a future in journalism.
He is the author of the new book, Fresh Out from Analope Opioids for the Masses, and he is the one and only Spectre.
Welcome up, brother.
Coach, it is an honor to be here, especially on with Dr. Hill.
And I really appreciate it.
And you're forgetting I was actually on the show on July 4th, but I didn't last night.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think you remembered that either.
I was told that I was a show.
Yes, yes.
I'm at the same table, Spectre, and I'm looking right my right-hand man that show, and you just kept looking at Smasher's wife's pregnant belly.
And then you bailed out.
You're right.
Thank you for correcting me.
Yes.
No, your second appearance.
I apologize.
Well, real quick here, big guy.
We got tons to talk about, but ethnicity, religion, and fatherhood status.
You know, we do that to all guests.
Well, Northern European, primarily German, Norwegian, and Irish.
What were the other two you needed?
Religion and fatherhood status.
Definitely a father and culturally a Christian.
What was that?
Culturally?
Culturally a Christian.
I was raised a Methodist.
Gotcha.
I struggle.
If you want to go into the deep thing, I can say I struggle with my faith, but I'm trying.
You know, I'm doing my best.
Roger that.
Yep.
Totally understand.
And can't wait to talk about the book.
This is sort of inadvertently the first interview you're doing since it is now out available to the masses.
So we are going to dig into that in the second half as a teaser for the audience.
But we got plenty here on the first to worry about now.
And finally, he is the president of the League of the South, a defendant in the Science versus Kessler show trial currently underway, and a man I can say with 100% confidence and sincerity is extraordinarily well regarded by everyone who's ever had the pleasure of his company.
Dr. Michael Hill, welcome to Full House.
Well, thank you, Coach.
It's always my pleasure to come on and come on for the first time on a great show like yours.
And I'll say this: I'm Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Anglo-Saxon, with a bit of Scandinavian thrown in.
All right.
I've got five children and 10 grandchildren so far.
And I am an old-fashioned, traditional Christian leaning toward Christian identity.
So that's me.
Thank you.
What a pride on, brother.
I didn't even ask.
Gotta chime in there.
All right, brother.
Now, Dr. Hill, I happen to have your resume in front of me here, and it says that you have a doctorate in diversity, equity, and inclusion.
That surprised me, but you're just full of surprises here.
Oh, man.
I tell you what, if I had one of those, I guess I could still be teaching.
But seriously, sir, what is your PhD in?
Yeah, I assume.
Well, go ahead, let us know what your expertise is.
Yeah, it's in history in general, but it's in the history of the British Isles in particular, and some military history.
So those are the things that I've written most of my books and articles about.
And when I was teaching in college, I taught a little bit of everything as professors are sometimes required to do.
A good deal of Western seal and things like that for freshmen.
And that was really enjoyable doing that from teaching freshmen all the way to teaching graduate students.
Wonderful.
Yeah.
And one of the many gems that you had on the stand was something to the effect of, yes, interrogator, I am quite familiar with what shields are used for and what they can be used for.
Well done, sir.
Well, yep.
And of course, you are not one of these pretentious doctors who insists on being called doctors.
So thank you for that.
I'll call you sir, most likely here, southern gentleman.
And now as an Appalachian transplant myself, I have adopted that, not in any phony sense, but everybody uses it.
Now it's just, it's become second nature, and I really like it.
It's a more genteel way of addressing people in public.
Yes, it is.
No, I was just going to say, yes, it is.
My father taught me that.
So I always call a man sir until he proved you he didn't deserve the title.
Absolutely.
That's right.
Well, you were on the stand last week for a couple of days.
I clarified before the show that you were there in person and had been following along either on the line for the rest of it.
And you provided just the perfect contrast just for us listening in on the phone between our people and the plaintiffs in this case.
I described it as a sort of regal Aryanism as opposed to what, you know, you could just imagine these people being Soviet political commissars in the Soviet Union.
Could you give us an idea of just what it was like?
So many of us have been spending hours listening to this on speakerphone and our headphones at the office or out on the job site.
What's it like in that courtroom, if you could, sir?
Well, I can tell you by the time I got out of it on Friday afternoon, I felt like I needed to go take a shower from being around those slimy Jew lawyers in that courtroom for two days.
But, you know, it was very relaxed to me.
You know, I had no idea what to expect.
And when I walked in, I just got these, I guess, what you might call good vibes about it, you know, and went over there and sat down by my attorney and watched the proceedings for a day.
And then I testified for most of the day on the second day.
And I was very comfortable in that courtroom.
In fact, it was quite a good experience.
I was glad to face my accusers and look them in the eye and give them my testimony.
And I tried to keep my testimony, you know, in line with my beliefs.
I didn't deny anything I believed.
I didn't deny anything I'd said or written.
I told the truth.
And that's why I went up there is to face my accusers and look them in the eye.
Dr. Hill, along those lines, can I just ask you a question?
I have several sources in the courtroom, and they have told me something about the composition of the jurors.
And they appear to be largely blue-collar, white and black, rural Virginians.
Can you tell me how they responded to hearing you basically one of their own, a fellow Southerner, you know, at the same time they're seeing the contrast with this, you know, these nebbish, you know, snarling with contempt Jewish lawyers?
Well, you know, as I said, I had a good feeling about my entire experience up there.
And obviously, that extended to the jury.
I think the jury, from what I was able to tell by just observing there, looks like they're just working class folks.
And they looked like they were intent on listening to what the testimony was.
I know that the plaintiff's attorneys have just thrown tons of just inane material at them.
So it's very picky stuff.
And I think, from my own perspective, it seemed like the judge was kind of getting a little bit perturbed at the detail they were going into and some of the questioning.
And there were a lot, as people who were listening could tell, there were a lot of objections.
And that's kind of slowed things down as well.
So this what started out to be a trial of four weeks, I think is inevitably going to go a good deal longer than that.
So, but my whole take on being there for two days was, you know, from a personal standpoint, I was very pleasantly impressed with the way the judge runs the courtroom and just the general feeling of everything there.
That's good to hear.
Yeah.
One of my concerns throughout this whole thing is most of our guys have been trying really hard to remove ourselves from our own ideological beliefs and, of course, the awareness of what this is.
This is a, they're just trying to, the slap lawsuit.
They're trying to impose themselves and intimidate us from ever trying to assemble again.
And, of course, make the connection that any pro-white speech is inherently violent.
The 14 words is violent.
White supremacy means equals violent violence.
Therefore, it cannot go forward.
How about the plaintiffs and the judge?
It seems, I guess what I'm getting at is, I believe that a regular person listening to this would have the ability to see through what they're doing.
Do you feel reasonably confident that's the case too?
That it just sounds so obvious what they're doing that they can't possibly hoodwink the jury on this.
Well, I certainly hope not.
The first day that I listened, I was able to determine what I believed the plaintiff's counsel strategy was, and that is to, since they're short on actual evidence of any conspiracy, I haven't seen any evidence produced yet.
They're going for the emotional appeal.
They're putting their plaintiffs on the stand.
Some of them suffered real physical injuries, it was claimed, and others suffered emotional trauma, whatever you want to call it.
But it seems to me from my observations, both in the courtroom and from listening like everyone else, that the plaintiffs seem to be all using certain buzzwords.
And, you know, that's a little bit strange to me that they would all be sounding so alike, you know, almost like somebody.
Somebody talked to them about it, you know.
Almost like four years of coaching so that every time they described the protesters they were with, they were joyous and mirthful.
And it was a peaceful and the snarling white supremacist Nazis and And just the dramatic descriptions they have, the thundering sound of the torchlight marchers, or, you know, I saw the swing set.
I saw it.
It's almost like they're setting a theatrical thing.
Here's this innocent swing set and children and clowns.
And here comes these marchers and rallygoers with their shields and their poles.
And you're right.
Their testimony is almost consistent in that they are portraying themselves as just there to speak up for the community.
That's all.
We didn't want a confrontation.
And all the violence came from the United Right marchers.
And then suddenly on cross-examination by defense attorneys or defendants, their memory just goes blank.
Did you see anybody with weapons next to you?
No.
What is that?
Here's a picture of you.
Here's five guys around you with bats in their hand.
Did you notice that?
Oh, you didn't.
How funny.
Incredible.
Yep.
Not credible.
There's been a lot of that.
Yeah.
Michael, a little bit of backstory for the audience.
I presume most of us have not been hit with a lawsuit before, and I assume the majority have not ever had to step foot in a courtroom or been a defendant before.
But how did it work for the league getting roped into this?
Did you get served by a process server one day?
And then they were like, you have to turn over everything for the process of discovery.
I imagine that is not a good feeling.
It was a painful process, especially dragging out over four years.
Yeah, this suit was filed on the 12th of October.
I don't remember if that was the exact day we were served with papers on this suit, but subsequently, and that was four years ago, October of 2017, and we're finally getting the case tried now.
But yeah, over that four years, we went through various stages of discovery.
We had to submit our computers.
I had to actually mail my computer all the way to Washington, D.C.
So they could do whatever magic they were going to do.
And they sent me some kind of machine.
I told them I couldn't do without my cell phone.
So they sent some machine here that sucked all the information out of my cell phone.
So they had pretty much everything.
They did that for my compatriot, my chief of staff, Michael Tubbs, as well.
So that was part of the discovery process.
And, you know, obviously you have to answer all other kind of questions.
You have to go through a deposition.
And so, yeah, you know, a lot of this, a lot of the punishment in this was the actual process of having to do this.
And obviously, it's not cheap.
Yeah, it's not cheap.
It's a whole point, isn't it?
The whole point of all these things is to make these cost you, to make it trouble, to make anybody else with similar ideas about whether it's just organizing an organization like League of the South in the interest of white people or organizing something publicly facing like this, that you have to calculate in the cost of look at what happened to the League of the South, all this trouble they went through.
Even if they were found not liable, that's still years out of your time.
And you're, you know, just the inconvenience and the dollar amounts.
It's ridiculous.
Well, every year long.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, as I said, the process is the punishment.
It's, you know, obviously over the four years, we've had to cut back on a lot of the things that we normally would have been doing because we had to focus on this trial and all the things that surround it, raising money and, you know, things like that.
But it is what it is, as they say.
And, you know, it's the latest part of the battle.
You know, these are our front lines at the moment.
And to be quite honest, I'm glad to be there.
Whatever, wherever the front lines are, I'm glad to be there.
I'd rather be doing something else.
But hey, this is the battle right now.
We got to fight it.
So We were all smiles and damn proud of you, sir, for your performance up there.
A little more color background.
Now, you know, I told Cantwell, I was like, don't be upset about going on the stand.
All you have to do is tell the truth and be yourself.
Have fun with it.
But did you have to practice with your lawyer for a long time?
Or you're like, it's okay, Esquire.
I got this.
Yeah, he just told me, he said, go be yourself.
He said, go tell the truth.
Go tell your side of the story.
You were there.
You saw what happened.
You know, you had a unique position as a leader of one of the organizations that was there.
And that's what I did.
No, he just said, go to it.
And, you know, I think I did a pretty good job.
Oh, absolutely.
Sir, I want to tell you.
Each of the defendants their own personalities have shown through.
Now, obviously, Mr. Cantwell's an entertainer and he has been everything that, you know, he's lived up to the promise.
You have somebody like Matt Parrott, who's kind of earnest, a little bit, you know, introverted and a little nerdy.
And he's come across that way.
And then during both your time on the stand, as well as I can't, I don't know if Mr. Tubbs was just deposed or if he was there.
No, he was doing Zoom.
Okay.
But you could hear just the snarling contempt in the voice of these Jewish attorneys.
And in return, what they got from both of you gentlemen was this sort of just regal disdain, as if I will put up with your questions, but you are so beneath me.
And you weren't contemptuous.
You didn't seem, it was almost like they think about you all the time and you don't think of them at all.
It was that one of those situations.
A lion in hiding.
Yep.
Yes.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah, that's right.
I could go a long time without thinking about these guys.
And it would be very pleasant.
I can go on more pleasant things to think about than them.
Absolutely.
Sure.
Dr. Hill, unpleasant question, but I got to ask: what is at stake for yourself and the league here?
I mean, imagine if that terrible judgment comes down and you guys are found liable.
I mean, are they going to, they're going to be coming after everything you got?
Or what's the likely material damages?
Worst case.
Well, I'm not sure.
I don't think that a monetary amount has been set, but obviously in a civil trial, it'll be some kind of monetary judgment like that.
And I think that it's up to the judge.
I think, I'm not sure.
I think it's up to the judge to determine that.
So I really don't know.
I always prepare myself, especially mentally, for the worst that could happen.
But I guess we'll have to see.
I don't know.
Dr. Hill, I wanted to ask you, if I'm not speaking out of school, I've heard public reports that the way League of the South is structured, it does offer certain protections based on your chapters being independent.
Is there something to that?
Or did I hear that right?
Oh, yes, you know.
Yeah, what they ended up suing, I don't know if they knew this or not, but they didn't end up suing our state chapters.
They ended up suing the League of the South Incorporated, which is the national office.
All of our state chapters are independently independent legal entities within their own state legal systems.
So we, you know, we did it that way for protection in case something like this were to ever happen.
And so they basically sued the national office here that I run.
And none of that can redown to the liability of your state chapters.
Is that correct?
No, as far as I, as far as I know, I don't think it can because they're, as I said, separate legal entities and they weren't named in this lawsuit.
Excellent.
Right.
Knock on wood.
I want to talk about the league and your background and what you guys are all about as well.
But before we do that, let's stay on the trial.
And Spectre, you have been the most consistent and honest reporter on what really is our trial of the century so far this whole time.
So I want to salute you and, of course, your publisher, Mr. Eric Strike.
You saw a joke the other day that all of the top articles up there, you had defenestrated the owner and scribe and took over National Hyphen Justice.
But I assume you've been listening into as much of this as possible.
You're putting out basically an article a day and you've been making the circuit.
You've been on Strike and Mike, Third Rail, et cetera.
Top line impression, Spectre, and anything surprised you so far?
I'm sure plenty of things.
I would say that the best the plaintiffs have been able to do as far as damage to the defendant's case came on Monday and Tuesday when they played some of the videotape depositions of like Dylan Harper in particular and Vasilios Pistolis.
Basically a couple of Spurs who did a bunch of Fed posting, just really sloppy, really ugly stuff that even if it doesn't prove a conspiracy, and that's what's really got to be at the heart of this, it's certainly not going to endear the defend those defendants in particular and those that they are closest related to or most closely connected to.
It's not going to endear them to the jury.
And I always caution this with the discussion that all this is dependent on the idea of a fair-minded jury.
And we know that juries can be really terrible.
We saw that with the Chauvin case.
But the defendants, as Dr. Hill said, it's been long on either emotional about how badly I was hurt and how much PTSD.
I saw a car wreck.
I need $400,000 a year for the rest of my life, whatever it is.
So they've made those emotional appeals.
They've had for anybody's guess at this point, why they had Deborah Lipstadt on the stand to talk about the Holocaust and the Nazis, which literally had nothing.
And she even admitted on the stand.
It had nothing to do with establishing a criminal conspiracy amongst the defendants.
And then finally, they've been pretty good at establishing that, yes, these organizations and individuals, to one degree or another, came together and tried to organize a rally.
They have not been able to provide a single shred of evidence that there has been any conspiracy to commit racially motivated violence.
And that's what they have to prove.
And you have a jury of 12 people.
And assuming that none drop out, you have to have unanimity on each count of liability for each individual defendant.
And I just can't believe that in a jury of ordinary, honest, ruralite Virginians, that you're not going to have one or two who are going to hold the line.
Now, that said, they might find, obviously, they're going to find liability for the people who have fled the lawsuit.
That's sort of automatic.
Asmodor, Anglund, England's company.
They may find some towards Vanguard or at least specifically Dylan Hopper because of their close, you know, the only connection to James Fields by anyone is that they gave him a shield and said, hey, march with us.
Right.
And so the jury might say, well, you kind of encouraged this guy.
Yeah, even that's disputed, Spectre, that they, you know, I think he picked up a shield and Hopper's testimony I have on good account perhaps may not have been the full story there that they were trying to throw Thomas Rousseau under the bus.
But anyway, yeah, and what I'm saying is a worst case scenario, if everything goes fair, if the jury is fair-minded, if the defense makes a good case of undermining, they've done a great job of undermining Deborah Lipstadt, of undermining Seth Whisplewee.
He had his own gross crates moment on the stand on Tuesday.
And then that was immediately followed by this Peter Simmy, the mind reader, who gets to tell you that everything that you say, whether it's a joke or not, I get to tell you if it's actually violence.
Oh, by the way, my presupposed bias is that white nationalism, white advocacy automatically is violent, inherently violent.
So you can't even make a joke without it being something serious.
So I was, my knuckles were white on the wheel when I heard that testimony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The 14 words for, yeah, insane.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's clearly an anti-academic.
Oh, yeah.
He follows like 15 different accounts, including anti-fashion Gordon.
He, you know, his default setting is, you know, white advocacy is violence.
And then I guess the plaintiffs, I'm not, I didn't actually hear it clearly at the end of the today if the plaintiffs have anything else to put on early Monday or if they have completely rested and the defense will begin on Monday.
And I think this defense has, I said it at the beginning, I felt like the defense, it's the defense's cases to lose because the plaintiffs don't really have a lot.
And if we've seen anything, it's that as this has gone along, both the pro se defendants and the attorneys have sort of learned to respond to the tactics that are being used here.
And I can't believe that a jury of southerners is not absolutely sick of having their time wasted by these New York Jews who just go on and on about all this detail, try to play word games.
Oh, did you say this?
Oh, well, I have it in the transcript.
You actually said this.
And it's like, this is exactly the same.
These two pictures are the same.
And they just keep trying to, you know, trip things up.
They keep bogging down a ministry or they are playing to the prejudices of the jury in showing statements, speeches, symbology, things that are maybe offensive to the normie.
And they spent 10 minutes or 15 minutes today getting the former leader of the National Socialist Movement to admit that, yes, I did and do have National Socialist ideas and used National Socialist images.
Wow.
What a great, great time at law school for you to be able to establish a fact like that, counselor.
So it's really been a lot largely a nothing burger.
And I think the defense, particularly Mr. Cantwell, particularly Mr. Jones, particularly Mr. Smith, have done a really great job.
And there's seems like it's gone from each man for himself, which is normal.
You know, the attorney needs to only represent his own clients.
And there's the theory that by showing that some of them are throwing each other under the bus, it kind of shows that there was never a grand conspiracy to begin with.
But I think they've also gotten really good at deconstructing these points and they've actually come across as more likable.
All of these defenders, all of these plaintiffs have come across as nagging scolds as, and I hate to use this conservative talk, but these tender snowflakes that are going to have nightmares the rest of their lives because they were two blocks away from a car wreck, that sort of thing.
And all of the defendants, for the most part, have come across as earnest, as kind of funny, as entertaining, as, you know, a guy next door kind of thing.
Human.
Or as in the case of Dr. Hill and Mr. Huber, sorry, Mr. Hubbert Hubble have come across as just like extreme gentlemen, you know, that you would, you know, who are you going to trust?
This guy or this hunched over, sweaty, balding lawyer?
Obviously, I'm going to go with Dr. Hill and Mr. Hubble.
Yeah.
It's been the easiest thing.
It's been the easiest thing to talk about from that day forth.
I remember going back to the hotel and being like, it's very obvious what happened here.
Like this should be a hell of a class action lawsuit for us against the city of Charlottesville.
I was in the Discord server.
Were there some knuckleheads in there?
Were there some off-color jokes and wood chippers?
And yes, I'm going to bring a gas chamber.
Of course there were jokes.
Were there, now let's, let's be honest here, swear to uncle and swear on my grandmother's grave, as I always say.
Were there men who went to Charlottesville on our side who were either eager to engage the enemy and certainly prepared to?
Course we don't like each other.
We hate each other.
We've seen what they're capable of like.
Who wouldn't have that in the back of their mind?
That I may need to defend myself, or it wouldn't be a terrible thing, but the idea that the organizers however you want to define them wanted anything but that event to go off with speeches and chants and and rallying around that, that beautiful statue yeah it's it's, it's ludicrous it's, it's a slap, lawsuit 100.
But the real question about this trial is whether it's too late to rope Sam into it.
I would, I think we could get him embroiled somehow and get him up on the stand, if it's not too late.
Sammy Baby, have you you got anything for Dr Hill or Specter?
No, i'm just listening.
I I haven't listened real close to the proceedings.
Uh, you know, as they've been going on, but my wife has and she gives me little updates and stuff like that.
It's just so.
Uh it's, you know it's, it's what you were talking about a few minutes there.
You you, you want to believe that the average person can see through this.
Their, their tactics are so try hard.
Uh, jump the shark, seeming tactics that you would.
You would think that anyone would see through it, you know and um, there's that saying uh when, when things are going to change, it's little by little, and then all at once, you know, there's going to be that moment where everything they do is just going to seem wrong to anybody and everybody.
You know, and I hope I made this comment yeah yeah, watching what Rittenhouse is undergoing on the stand.
We don't have time unfortunately, to talk about that trial and the Mcmichaels in any level of detail, but it's really, it's a glimpse into old America versus New America, where you have sort of these boomer or older judges, old school, you know, certainly not our guys, but at least common sense and not willing to suffer fools convening with these aggressive uh shameless, willing to do whatever it takes to smear their opponent and, in the Chauvin case, of course,
with the uh prosecutor Binder.
I mean, there's nothing, there's nothing below him, there's nothing he's willing to do, and even for a judge who's supposed to remain impartial like this, this old guy's getting angry uh, and you can hear it in Moon's voice as well as well.
Sometimes too, it's like imagine being Moon, like seeing seeing uh Cantwell defending himself pro se.
He's got to be like, well, maybe this made it worth it uh, staying up here on this damn bench for another 10 years.
I get the impression that he's actually kind of taking a shine to Cantwell in a you know, in a neutral way where he just you know he wants to help him out as a pro se defendant.
He's it's his obligation.
But you know, it's not like Cantwell has been wasting time up there.
He's taking less time than the plaintiffs and he all, you know, i'd say 90 of his interrogatives and and his questioning and cross-examination has been on point.
Now, he's obviously not experienced as a lawyer to know always how to word it right.
He's only really gone off on tangents a couple of times and, and most of what he's done has, you know, dealt some really damage to the plaintiff's case.
Yeah, i'm really, i'm really impressed with Cantwell's performance as his own representative, his own counsel there.
He's done a very good job.
Yep.
And I just want to add that Chris actually called me last night out of the blue, and I was like, Oh, do you want me to record this again?
He's like, No, I just want to chat.
And he sounded positive and excited.
And he's like, Did you see this?
Did you see this?
So he's having, you know, Chris has been through a lot over the past four or five years, and he's really having the time of his life up there.
And you just got to love.
I'm not even going to call it a redemption arc, right?
Because his supporters will say there's nothing to redeem, right?
Chris did nothing wrong.
But whatever your opinion of him, he is fighting the damn good fight up there.
And I have to say, Dr. Hill, your attorney is Brian Jones, I believe, too.
He's been very competent too.
And I assume is he in the he's in that courtroom every day for the duration of the trial.
That can't be cheap.
He's been there every day, and we're very happy with what he's done for us so far.
Outstanding.
All right.
If we don't have anything else on our trial of the century, it's not often that we get such an expert on Southern history and Southern pride on this show.
So let's talk a little bit about Southern nationalism, Southern nationalism, if we could.
Now, I'll be candid, Dr. Hill, for a lot of us, even myself included, at times were skeptical of the concept because it implies a sort of white sectarianism, right?
In some strains.
Like, I'm a reformed Yankee.
I'll call myself born in North Carolina, raised New Jersey.
I used to love the movie Glory growing up.
You know, please forgive me.
But now, of course, truth be told, I was totally programmed.
Confederates.
It's got a happy ending, though.
The glory has a happy ending.
They lose the battle.
I must say I've never seen that movie.
Oh, yeah.
Tell you what, Dr. Hill, when you come out not liable from this trial, I don't know if you indulge in a little bit of bourbon from time to time, but have a bourbon and pop on glory and your eyes will be glowing out of your head.
But seriously.
I can handle a bourbon.
I'm not sure I can handle that movie, though.
I know what it's about.
Fair enough.
But, you know, there's so for Yankees, for non-Southerners, there's a little bit of wariness that, you know, it's certainly understandable, but that we're not good enough for you or that there's still some latent hostility toward non-Southerners.
So what is Southern nationalism in your words?
Sorry for that long wind up there.
That's okay.
It's going to take me a few minutes.
The league's definition.
Yeah, the league's definition of a southerner, and that's, of course, what I base my worldview and all of my writings and speeches on.
A Southerner is a descendant of the European stock that settled this part of the North American continent, south of the Ohio River, extending from Maryland and Virginia down to Texas in the 17th and 18th centuries.
So that necessarily means when I say a Southerner, I mean a white person.
So in our definition of the term, Southern nationalism, it's a subset of white nationalism.
So I've always held to that.
And I kind of view it this way, fellas.
Southerners are like my, and, you know, they're concentric circles within the subset.
I suppose you might say that Alabama is my country.
The Southern people are my nation.
But I'm willing to extend this idea of family, the extended family or the clan, as it's called in Scotland, of course, to fellow whites around the world.
Southerners are like my nuclear family, I guess you might say.
You know, they're the closest to me.
I understand them.
We have the same culture.
You know, we kind of see the world the same way.
And we have the same food.
You know, I could name a thousand things that make us unique.
But at the same time, other whites, not just on the North American continent, but in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and obviously in Europe, these are my cousins, you know, and I love my cousins.
And if my cousins get in trouble and I'm able to be there, I'll be there for them.
So, you know, this idea of not distinguishing between different groups of white folks, I think is, you know, probably not a good thing.
Because look, let me explain it a little bit in the context of Europe.
Would we want all those people over there just to be generic white Europeans?
Well, no, they are that, but they are also German.
They're French.
They're Polish.
They're Scots.
They're Irish.
And all of these subsets or what we call ethnic groups do things a little bit differently, you know.
And if we didn't have all that difference, we wouldn't have this wonderful diversity, true diversity, you know.
Where would we be if we didn't have Germans and their good beer?
Where would we be if we didn't have the French and their wine and cuisine?
Where would we be if we didn't have the Scots and the Irish and their whiskey boys?
Sure.
I'd be lost.
I'd be lost.
Exactly.
And I mean, and you look at all these wonderful things, what the Poles have done over the centuries in fighting the Muslims, the Polish Usars, you know.
Every European ethnic group like that identifies itself not just as white, not just as European, but as a, as I said, a subset of the white race.
And that's kind of like we do with Southerners.
But let me say this.
We play our brotherhood here in America back about 150 years ago.
I'm over that.
You know, I've always thought that the South was right.
I'll think that the South was right until I go to my grave.
But that doesn't mean that I want to go relive or refight this war because we can't afford to turn our arguments and animosity inward.
We need to face outward as a group of white folks against the people whose goal, stated goal, is to destroy us and banish us from the pages of history.
So we've got bigger fish to fry, as they might say, than trying to rehash old arguments and battles like between Confederates and Yankees or whatever, acknowledging obviously that's part of our history.
Amen.
Michael, I think there's another dimension of this, which is the Southern ethnic group, or the Southern identity, is not just merely another one of many white groups or white subsets, as you say, but this is one that is particularly uh practically suppressed and one that some people would wish was forgotten about.
So that makes it important to uh stand for it and to affirm it and to uh assert that it will not be disappearing.
Well yes I, I agree, Sam.
Uh, you know, we.
We said all the way back uh into the 1990s when we first started the league.
At that time, the Naacp was uh really pushing hard to get rid of Confederate uh symbology, everything from monuments to flags to, you know, school and street names and things like that.
And we told everybody else we said, look, just low-hanging fruit that's easy to come after once they start, once they finish banning.
You know Robert E Lee and the Confederate Battle flag, and you know anything to do with Nathan Bedford Forest?
Uh, they'll come after.
Uh American uh, White American uh symbols and figures?
Uh, you know Christopher Columbus, for example.
They'll, they'll come after eventually they'll.
Yeah Thomas well Thomas, we.
We claim Jefferson is a Southerner, but he is more of an American type figure along with people like Washington, of course, but they'll eventually come after all of those things.
Yeah, Dudger Hill, did you catch um?
Uh, on cross-examination?
Some of these plaintiffs were asked about uh, what they thought of Thomas Jefferson.
Was he also a white nationalist or white supremacist?
And they had to him and Haul, because they knew that jury would not necessarily take kindly to them, placing Thomas Jefferson in the same uh boat or box of deplorables that they do Robert E Lee.
Yeah, that's right, you know, as soon as they can, they're going to pull that mask off.
They're going to pull that mask off and say, Thomas Jefferson comes down too.
He's a slave owner, of course, and that's not going to go in that uh city where, you know, just down the road is uh, MR Jefferson's University, University OF Virginia as it's called, um.
So you know we we, we southerners, have always been the first target.
You know, back in the civil rights era, which I can remember as a boy um, you know I, we knew, we knew that uh, if the south falls on this issue, the country falls on it and that has been true and i'm so proud of.
You know my grandfathers and my great uncles and you know men like that who, in their generation, stood up and told the truth about what would happen if this civil rights revolution became a reality, and they have been absolutely spot on to this day about what the impact of that would be for the white population of America, not just the south.
So we Southerners look look at ourselves as having been on the front lines of this fight for a long, long time.
Um, but if you want to read something really ridiculous and funny, you read about, and people will even still say things about uh uh, you know the ridiculousness of keeping schools segregated and uh, how ridiculous uh, the things that white supremists would say about that.
But every single thing has come true.
Every single thing, yes, murders in the schools and the destruction of of all community.
It's it's yeah, just complete destruction of any education whatsoever.
Oh fellas look, I can remember.
I can remember when my mother and my grandmothers, my aunts, could go to downtown Birmingham here in Alabama uh, after dark, and shop without fear uh, of their physical safety.
Hell, you can't even go to downtown Birmingham in the middle of the day as a male, fully armed, and expect to be safe.
And that translates not just from to Birmingham but to Atlanta, to Memphis, to New Orleans and obviously all the big cities outside the south.
So we have pretty much lost our urban areas because of the Civil Rights uh revolution, and we Southerners have known that for a long, long time.
And uh, you know we uh I I, I guess what we need is uh, some help from outsiders to come in and say look, you know, you folks were right about all this, and now we want to join you and and we want to, you know, link uh together in this and form a a, uh you know, a bond among white people in North America because look,
what happened to the south is going to happen uh, in a sort of macro micro uh, macrocosm sorry for the rest of the country and the rest of the white world, you know is what i'm saying.
So we can't afford to be squabbling uh with other white folks.
We don't need any more brothers wars for sure.
We don't even need any brothers arguments about things that happened in the past.
We need to put that behind us and look to the future, because we're what we're.
We're less than 10 of the world's population now.
125 years ago we were like 30 of the world's population.
We can't afford the luxury of historical debates between Yankees and confederates, and you know uh, Germans and and Frenchmen and Scots and Englishmen, you know all of these animosities uh that we've had in the past.
We've got to overlook those and come together in in some kind of unity, and that's what we in the league are seeking to do.
We want to remain southern because that's who we are, that's our identity.
But we want to reach out to other whites uh north of the Ohio river, in the west and uh in the other white countries of the world, uh in particular Particular, in Europe.
So that's kind of the way I look at this subject.
Well, well said.
Yeah, nothing to disagree with there from my end at least.
We got a question or more of a comment from a fan of the show, and I believe he's a fan of the league as well.
And he writes: Some completely ignorant individuals of the South have muddied the water horribly and have done white unity significant damage by the statement or this idea that I'd rather stand with a Dixie nigger than a goddamn Yankee.
And he says that's such a tiny minority of Southerners, but the statement has been made.
And yeah, I have seen that too.
That's sort of like E. Michael Jones, you know, doing a great job eviscerating Judaism, but then saying, yeah, you can't be on my team unless you're a Catholic.
Yeah, a Southern nationalist saying that he's okay with blacks in the South over white Yankees is something that would certainly stick in our cross.
That's no Southern Nationalist.
Nobody better ever say that to me to my face.
I'm a big guy.
That is absolutely ridiculous.
I would stand with my white brothers and sisters against any non-white.
I don't give a damn where they're from.
Amen.
Dr. Hill, we're going to just have a little bit of fun here.
I also want to talk about the league itself and how people can support you or possibly apply or join.
But I was at Gettysburg Battlefield just last weekend.
I brought my oldest son along.
I had been there before, before we had kids, but just standing there, it's a spectacular battlefield.
I've been to a bunch, and this one was the clearest to understand with the most monuments.
So recommended for everyone, Yankee or rebel.
And I was standing there with my son, literally right there on the field where Pickett's charge kicked off.
And just the absolute sadness, I guess, the melancholy thinking of what possibly could have been had that gone differently.
And that actually kicked off a fun conversation of what if what if the South had won and the North sued for peace and we had this division of America?
One of the guys said, well, the South would have just expanded slavery all throughout the country.
And then I had to retort, yeah, well, the South losing sort of Jefferson Davis's revenge was that the North got this flood of blacks into the cities, the consequences of which we're seeing today.
But just I get, you know, it's a little unfair to try to jam this in here in the first half, but what would have happened if the South had won?
I'm sure you've thought about it before.
Well, I have given a lot of thought about that, but obviously it's all speculative.
But it would seem to me, knowing a little bit about what I think would have transpired, I don't think that the two countries on the North American continent, the United States of America and the Confederate States of America, would have gotten involved in World War I.
And had there not been a World War I, there likely would not have been a World War II.
So I think the history of the first half of the 20th century would have been extremely different.
And I don't know what it would have been, but I do think that we would have avoided the bloodshed that pretty much destroyed the best stock of Europe from 1914 until 1945.
And obviously, the aftermath of that showed who the true victor of World War, of that series of wars was.
And it was the Jew and it was his ideology, communism.
That's a hot take, but I like it, and it's absolutely credible.
Now, I assume, sir, that you do not have any portraits of Judah Benjamin in your home.
Is that fair?
No, I have no portraits of Judah Benjamin in my home.
If I did, I'd abuse him for targets.
Very good.
I had to throw that one in there.
All right, Tommy.
Got to have a little fun, even with a sincere, intelligent gentleman like yourself.
You know, not surprisingly, I think he absconded with the Confederate or some of the Confederate gold, went to Europe and lived the rest of his life as a fairly wealthy man, while all my ancestors suffered through Reconstruction.
Bingo.
Aftermath of that.
Yep, cautionary tale, even if they seem like a based one.
Beware.
All right, sir.
Yeah, tell us about the League of the South, how you guys are doing now, how people can apply, and what you are trying to accomplish down there.
Well, we've been around for quite a while.
We've been around for 27 years, so it's not like we just started yesterday.
We have a good organization.
We have some really dedicated and good people who have stuck with us through a lot of trouble, particularly over the last four years.
We're divided up into state chapters, although we do have members in all 50 states and quite a few foreign countries.
You know, our goal from the very beginning has been to create what you might call a white ethnostate in the South because we believe, I believe, and I, you know, obviously testified to this in court the other day, that the South ought to return to what it once was, and that's white man's land.
And that's our goal is for the survival, well-being, and independence of the Southern people, that subset of the white race that obviously we're closest to and have been working for.
So being a Southern nationalist means that you want to see a homeland that is dominated by and beneficial for the Southern people, i.e. white folks in the South.
We, you know, back when we started the league back in the 90s, nobody was talking about secession.
And we got a lot of publicity, not just here, but internationally, because we brought that subject up again.
And, you know, after a while, it kind of got passe and kind of old and they weren't doing those interviews with us anymore.
But it kind of stuck.
And now, every time there is some controversial figure that gains control of the White House, like a Donald Trump for the Republicans, causes California to talk about seceding.
And a Barack Obama for the Democrats causes, you know, all the so-called red states to start talking about secession.
We'd like to take a little bit of credit for getting that idea discussed so readily now.
But, you know, we haven't changed from the very beginning.
That's still our goal.
We want to advocate for that and let people see that the United States indeed may have lived, outlived its usefulness as a political entity.
And we might see the breakup of these contiguous 48 states into several different ethnostates over the next five years, 10 years, quarter of a century, whatever.
I don't know.
But we think it's a worthy goal, and that's what we've pursued.
From your lips to God's ears.
It's got legs for sure.
Things have changed so much over the past, just the past five years since Charlottesville.
Yep, a little bit more of a profit there.
Do you have a website?
You know, is it, do you have a vetting process?
I'm not probing, but just for people who are interested and who are going to like what you have to say, what should they do to get in touch?
Well, they can go to our website.
It's www.leagueofthesouth.com.
Very simple.
There's a form on there that you can fill out to apply for membership.
We will vet you.
And, you know, if I'm really, really concerned about somebody, I'll go meet with them and they have to pass my test.
But, you know, we have a lot of people applying.
Some get accepted, some don't.
You can contact me by phone or email.
I think some of my social media contacts are on the website.
And ask me any questions you want.
We can send out you an information packet.
And, you know, we try to provide and be very open and provide people with all the information that they need to make an educated decision on about whether or not the League of the South is for them.
Sounds good.
Is Hunter Wallace still with you guys?
I've always been a fan of his writing.
And if he's not, I'm not trying to stir anything.
Yeah, yeah.
He's still with us.
He spoke at our 2021 national conference back in September here in central Alabama.
So if Spectre is the scribe for national justice, yeah, he is an amazingly prolific and entertaining writer.
We had him on the show after Trump was elected when we were trying to make sense of the whole idea that white men may or may not have cost them the election.
It's still tough to wrap your head around that one.
It's like, okay, well, if white men stayed home and didn't vote for Trump, that's good.
But there was a lot of evidence that white men flipped to Biden too, which is not a good sign.
I would say this about Hunter.
That is Brad Griffin.
I know everybody knows who he is.
I don't know if y'all are old enough to remember a gentleman named Sam Francis, Dr. Samuel Francis.
Of course.
Yeah.
Sam was one of the best analysts, political and social cultural analysts that I've ever had the pleasure to know.
Brad Griffin is, he's not where Sam is yet.
Of course, Brad's not nearly as old as Sam was when he passed away.
But Brad is one of the closest things I've seen as far as being a good analyst of these things to Sam Francis.
And I thought very highly of Sam.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
You were still around.
Another quick one for you, sir.
Do you guys support quote-unquote good geopoliticians, GOP politicians in elections down there?
Or have you done the no political solution where all these guys are cucks, even if they give good speeches on the campaign trail?
Well, pretty much the latter.
Now, we do give ourselves flexibility.
Locally down here in the South, in Alabama, some of the deep South states, you'll find a state or local level politician sometimes who is the real deal, who really, really believes things like we do.
And we will support those people, but we don't get involved in national elections because of A, the quality of the men, and unfortunately women, who are usually running for office.
And secondly, I think it's kind of hypocritical for us to be pushing national elections when we're a southern nationalist organization that's looking to get the hell out of here and form our own country down here.
That's a good point, actually.
I didn't think of it that way until now.
Well, you know, we've had that.
We've had that position for quite some time.
So if we are engaged in politics, it's on the state level or more likely on the very local level.
Understandable.
Spector Sam, any more questions for Dr. Hill before we go into the break?
No, that was a great discussion.
All right.
Well, Dr. Hill, it is an absolute honor to have you on, and I am 100% sincere.
All the guys and all the chats.
Oh, yeah, Michael Hill, great guy.
Somebody said he's a ride or die kind of guy with no murder implied there.
You know what I mean?
Just the medical.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm just trying to make my ancestors proud of me.
Amen.
I think you are, sir.
And you are making us proud with your legal fight in Charlottesville, your advocacy for our people, and I might add your common sense, totally relatable approach to southern nationalism as a tribe within our broader white family around the world.
Glad to have you.
Glad to have you in our corner.
Well, one of you, sorry.
Amen.
League of the South.com.
If you're down there and you're not a commie pinko Jew, you know what?
Give it some thought, fam.
And Dr. Hill, of course, I offered him the break music and he suggested a classic, as you might suggest, as you might suspect.
And I went with the spirit of that, but just with a slight punch up, a little edge.
So in honor of the League of the South, Dr. Hill, our wonderful correspondent, Spectre, who's going to be coming on in the second half to talk about the opioids, please, Mr. Producer, put on from 1994, Dixieland by a little southern rock group called Jackal.
Hope you enjoy it.
We'll be right back.
Thank you all.
Daddy never listened to my mama's born.
He loved to play it loud.
Baby, play it loud.
Look away Dixie Land, Cause we are Dixie Land.
Look away Dixie Land used to the day.
I lost a lot of time trying to find my way.
If I make it back home, I'll be okay With ice cream and a pull-pick dream.
It keeps me going while so it will stream.
I keep beating up, never let us steam.
I sing it loud and well.
Loudy and brown.
Look away, Dixie Lamb.
Cause we're rocking forever, Dixie Land.
Oh, Dixie Lion, Dixie Land.
Look away, Disneyland.
Look away Dixie Land.
And when the day goes around, that my music's gone.
Don't leave me here and don't leave me alone.
Just take me back home with the balls in the band.
We're starting back up in Dixie Land.
Look away Dixie Land Cause we'll rock and forever Dixie Landlayer, Dixon Land.
Look away, Dixie Land.
Look away.
Cause we're rocking forever.
Start my way out of hail.
So look away, Dixie Land.
Look away, Dixie Land.
Look away.
And welcome back to Full House 108.
Very special addition to I haven't met Dr. Hill yet, but I consider him a friend, of course, and Spectre I've met too many times that I'd prefer to admit.
And we are honored that Dr. Hill is hanging with us for the second half.
It occurred to me he's just like Ernie Banks.
He's ready to play two.
Only, of course, he is a white Southern gentleman rather than a black shortstop for the Cubs.
I don't know.
That just came to me.
Sorry.
We're a little looser in the second half here, sir.
Little.
A couple of housekeeping notes for the audience.
Of course, NEW White Life here at the top.
Uh, I did finally assemble my set list for the White Power Hour and fired that off with my best Casey Kasem impersonation for the White Power Hour.
That show should be coming out soon.
Uh yeah, Casey Casem, I believe, was Lebanese.
So yeah, what a, what a voice on him.
Anyway uh, and it was, you know, I threw in a.
I did throw in a couple commercial tracks, sort of like my favorite electronica, and then there's Zorius and uh, Cyber Nazi and some other stuff in there, and one, one of those real classics that you sent me Sam, from uh.
Was it aggravated assault or racially motivated, racially motivated, racially provoked attack?
There you go, thank you yeah, what a, what a name.
Yeah, so check that out.
It's uh, they're.
They're on telegram and on cast box.
Uh, just one New White Life from me this week and sam's got one.
And we got this lovely uh email from a listener.
It says, hey kings hope, all is well.
I just want to let the bio fam know my fiancé and I are having our first child in april, hopefully the 20th.
A baby girl is on the way.
My fiancé and I met Smasher and his beautiful family at Winter Nights and what an awesome time that was.
Keep up the good work.
You are appreciated.
And then he asks, have you done an episode on multi-generationalism?
I feel like our folk have suffered from losing the structure.
Incentivizing those kinds of households going forward could really help out our cause.
Make the white family a powerhouse.
Other cultures still do this, such as Indians, which is why they've been so successful in the?
U.s.
And I wish, wish you and your families all the best, and that is from Graftschaft FOLK.
So uh, Graftschaft FOLK congratulations.
God bless you and your fiancé with the baby girl on the way.
I hope it's the 20th for you too.
Uh, name her Ava, of course, if it does happen on that very special day.
And yeah, the multi-generational generational thing uh, is a tricky one for me because you know I was just, you know raised, you know 18.
You move out of the house, you get your own life and you move about it.
But I certainly see the advantages to it if you can tolerate being around your uh, your closest kin, on a regular basis like that.
Be happy to have you on to talk about it sometime soon.
Uh, Tammy baby, who's your uh oh I, I remember now go ahead, but it's all yours yes, uh.
Well, our brother Nate, and a big fan of the show, his wife just gave birth to a beautiful baby boy.
And, uh boy, we're on pins and needles could, because those last couple of days the doctors were kept pushing it off another day, and you know how it is.
At the end you just want it to be over and it was the middle of the night and then the text started flying and the picture started flying and everybody in the chat was all chiming in and and uh, it was just absolutely beautiful.
Uh birth and um, uh boy.
The parents are so happy and it's it's.
It's been a long ride for her but uh, it's all paid off.
Uh healthy, Beautiful baby boy was born.
That's right.
He was nice enough to, he was nice enough to send a photo as well.
And truth be told, a little bit of wife side boob in the bed with a new baby section.
I almost wanted to say that, but then I left it off.
But yeah, she was going along.
Leave it to me.
Yeah, no, no, it was completely beautiful and tasteful.
Yeah.
Nate's another one of these guys, double dipping in new white life, right?
He got the conception, congratulations, and the birth conception.
So don't get greedy there, Nate.
We're going to meet you.
You know, it's just a beautiful thing in these last, oh, I don't know, so many weeks.
You know, we've had some births and things, which we have mentioned on the show in these last, even last couple months.
But, you know, people come up, come up with these beautiful baby announcement cards now.
And I should show you guys, but I got these just a couple of beautiful pictures of the newborn babies from a few people.
And I have them up on our piano in the room there.
And it's just a beautiful reminder.
Amen.
Mr. Producer has one too.
Go ahead.
Have at it, buddy.
You haven't spoken on air yet this show.
Well, a gentleman in my bowling league, one Ronald Ronson, his wife is having a baby as we speak.
All right.
They're first, Dina?
Yep, that'd be the first one.
Oh, man.
All right.
No bowling for him for a while, unless he needs to get out of the house and get a little peace and quiet at the lanes.
Congratulations, Mr. and Mrs. Ronald Ronson.
Thank you for that, Mr. Producer.
And the guy we were talking to, we read his letter about.
He was concerned about handling the newborns.
I was chatting with him, and he would love to come on the show and chit-chat with us or at least follow up with that conversation.
And he's a big fan of the show.
And I know he's listening now.
So we appreciate good fans like him.
Absolutely.
And Sam, I got to say, because of the White Power Hour and their emphasis on our artists, I knew that the Cantwell interview was going to get a lot of ears, and it did.
I looked at the stats just before the show met many thousands.
And I was trying, I was trying to put the music like, I was like, oh man, what an epic interview.
Like, what are we going to put to close that one out?
And I was tempted to put Aerosmith back in the saddle.
It's got that great beginning.
You know, Cantwell's back in the saddle.
But I was like, no, you know what?
I'm going with Wellington Arms and out of the limits to close that banger.
So hail Wellington Arms by their CDs.
Don't just listen to their stuff on Full House.
I think they have that German website that's a little inscrutable, difficult to rubble-records.com.
Yeah.
But they got good service, even though it's in Germany, but you can get their stuff for sure.
All right.
We got one full house love connection here.
We haven't had one in a while.
Here we go.
I am a late 20s man in the Dakotas.
I would be willing to relocate, but would like to stay in the upper Midwest or Great Plains region for family reasons.
I am a Christian leaning toward orthodoxy, but denomination is negotiable.
If you like hiking, dogs, and C-list niche-y celebrities that run racist blogs, then I am your man.
I wonder who this could be.
I've been told that I'm charismatic, which you will presumably decide for yourself, and that I have a nice singing voice, but you won't get to hear that until at least date two or three.
Ah, he's a gentleman.
I look forward to hearing from you.
And that, of course, is our brother from another mother, Gordon Call, the CEO of Upper Midwestern Racism.
So, ladies and audience, wherever you are, hit us up if you would like to make a connection with Gordon.
And to the guys listening too, you don't get off the hook on Full House Love Connection just because you are a hetero and have your own situation straighten out.
You must know some available ladies in your life.
Feel free to connect with us and let's get this cracking again.
You know, we had some good successes there.
It's been a little slow lately.
So we want more white babies as a direct result of this show, if for no other reason than to add to our clout.
We're going to Spectre now.
Gordon, thank you for that.
We got a beautiful note from Antlers88, but it's a little bit long.
So I'm going to save that for later or for next week.
And I just had one more thing before we give you the great Spectre.
And I'm going to call this Chat Comment of the Week.
Haven't done this little segment before.
You know, we see so much brilliance and some stupidity, of course, as well across our various chats that we're in.
And this one jumped out to me this week.
And it's from KL Lothbrook.
I think everybody remembers her.
She's done great work, used to be on Twitter.
And it was about the definitely noticeable, insane proliferation of Christmas lights long before Thanksgiving.
And KL said people decorate for Christmas early these days because they're desperate for a sense of tradition, meaning, family, community, and wholesomeness.
And Christmas is the only thing that provides that feeling for so many people anymore.
Very, very true.
Great analysis of why we see people jump into it.
I told the kids, I was like, no, I'm not getting the lights out until Friday after Thanksgiving at the earliest.
That's how we did it in my day.
And that's how we're going to do it going forward now.
Halloween, I'll go a little bit early with the decorations.
Well, yeah, because I mean, like for me, I don't put up any Christmas stuff until a few days before Christmas because you're skipping the whole season of Advent.
You know, that's supposed to have a whole thing, a whole practice unto itself.
Yeah.
Let alone Thanksgiving.
I mean, how can you skip all that?
And with you celebrating Hanukkah, that's also an issue.
You don't want to interfere with that.
Thank you, Spectre.
You said it, not me.
Anyway, Spectre is in his car right now out of consideration for his current location.
We're always very honest with the audience here, brother.
But let's get right to it.
New book out, antelopehillpublishing.com.
It's also available on Amazon.
Of course, we will link it in the show notes.
And if you're anywhere in our corner of the internet, you're going to see this over and over again.
We're so damn excited to buy it and to read it.
When we interviewed Marty about Let Them Look West, some snarky commenter was like, you guys talked about this book for an hour and I still don't know what the hell it's all about.
And I was like, well, that's kind of the point.
You know, we were giving you a teaser, but people have a general idea what this is about.
But how about it, Spectre?
I guess first, why?
Yeah, my three-part questions.
Why, how, and what's it all about?
Okay.
So at the start of 2019, I had just started a job as a plainclothes juggalo.
And no, I was contacted by a fellow traveler in our circles.
And this is where I want to give all the credit.
My friend Richard McClure.
This was his brainchild.
He funded it.
He co-wrote it with me.
He smoothed out my rough writing.
He has been, he gets the bulk of the credit for this.
I did the field work and a lot of the writing, obviously, but he definitely should really be the name, the top name on the marquee.
But I started in 2019.
I started actually in the pain handle of Florida after he and I had agreed on how we were going to do this.
And the concept was we went to look at the opioid crisis.
A singular number had stuck out to both of us when we looked into it.
And it was 47,000.
And this was again in early 2019, and that was in the year 2017, the most recent year at the time for which those numbers were available.
47,000 deaths from opioid overdoses in 2017.
And we thought about that.
And that's almost as many people as died in the Vietnam War over 10 years.
Yeah.
That's a big stadium, right?
Do you just think of a big damn stadium, all those people dying?
And the bulk of them, or at least the vast majority of them, were white people, working class people.
And if you took, in addition to those, the total number of overdoses, just in the year 2017 alone, you had more deaths than Vietnam, the first Iraq war, the second Iraq war, the Afghanistan war, all of those combined, all happening in one year.
And it was like, well, wait a minute, this is not just some accident of history.
This is, you know, why is this going on?
This seems like a crime.
This seems like a murder.
So we approached it like the idea of let's look at this like a murder mystery.
How would we go about telling the story of what's really happened?
And our idea was, obviously, we want to look at the big picture stuff.
So we interviewed some of the great experts, university professors who like have studied addiction science, epidemiology, pharmacology.
And so we have that in there, but that gets dry after a while.
You don't want to sit here and listen.
By the way, Dr. Hill, when I say this, please don't take this as personal.
You don't always want to listen to academics talking about the view from 10,000 feet.
Hell, I've listened to enough academics, so I don't want to hear another one in my life.
Okay, thank you, sir.
Why do you think I left?
Okay, well, I just wanted to make sure that this didn't sound like it was a left-handed side there.
Well, absolutely not.
We wanted to look at the personal stories of the people whose lives were destroyed by this, and not just the people, but the entire towns, communities that were destroyed by this.
And so using like a CDC heat map on the places with the highest incidence of overdoses, death by overdoses, prescription pills per capita, for like 100,000.
We kind of mapped out a trail starting in the panhandle of Florida, going up through Appalachia, through the Rust Belt, going out towards the Midwest, and hitting the hardest hit places because we knew just from the numbers that this was primarily targeted at working class white people and small town America.
And the first place we were in was I was in the panhandle of Florida.
And I, you know, how do you really get started on this beyond the broad numbers?
I actually just went to a couple NA meetings and you don't want to violate the anonymity of these people that are seeking help.
I just wanted to get a feel for, you know, what they were, their stories that they were telling were.
And so we went from there to Jasper, Alabama.
And you don't think of Jasper, Alabama as part of coal country, but it actually is.
And they had a successful coal mine that had shut down in the, I think it was the early 2000s, maybe the late 1990s.
I don't want to lie there.
But this is a small town up in northern Alabama.
And I embedded myself there for about three weeks, I think.
And I ended up talking to, you know, drug court judges, police, counselors, actual junkies, people going through treatment, people on the streets.
And that was a real eye-opener.
But what amazed me was the time that I spent in my off hours, you know, going to the laundromat to do my laundry.
I was living out of hotels, going to the, you know, to a bar, going to a coffee shop and just, you know, casually talking.
Oh, what are you doing in town?
Oh, I'm working on this research for this book that my friend and I are writing on the opioid crisis.
Every, I'm not exaggerating when I say this.
Literally, every single person I talked to casually, casually in Jasper, Alabama, as soon as I brought that up, they would say, I got a friend who overdosed.
I got a family member who overdosed.
I got a friend who died.
It was that pervasive.
And one of the things we learned about Jasper, and this was really where we felt like we were on the trail of the right kind of story to tell, was that in, and I'm going to have to be inexact on the years now because it's been a couple of years since the actual research, but I think it was 2016, a coal company came to Jasper, said, we want to reopen the mines because the way the energy prices were.
And they needed to find in this town where unemployment was extremely high, where, you know, poverty and all that, we need to find 500 people so that we can open this up.
And that's the minimum we need.
And then, of course, you think, you know, when you have an enterprise that opens with 500 jobs, there's going to be ancillary jobs that are created, secondhand jobs, you know, people to support that, whether it's delivery drivers or, you know, more restaurant staff.
It would redound to the benefit of the whole community.
They couldn't find 500 people that could pass a drug test.
Right.
They canceled their plans to reopen that mine, and that entire community has suffered ever since.
Yep, walking zombies hooked on this stuff.
Yep.
And so, and then we went up to a small town in Tennessee, Selena, where you had, I think, three small pharmacies all within a few blocks of each other.
And we're talking about a community of, I don't think it was more than 3,500 people.
And the DEA had just in the previous, the two months prior to our arrival there had taken the unprecedented step of having three of these pharmacies, their ability to write prescription or to fill prescriptions for all narcotics was completely suspended.
And they had never done that before.
These three pharmacies, between the three of them, in a town of about 3,000 people, had filled prescriptions for over 10 million pills in one year.
So that's not, and that's not just going to the locals.
Is that like a source for going elsewhere for the trade?
No, that's that's part of the whole black market right there.
Sure.
Yeah.
And that's that's doctors.
That's basically the pill mills, you know, going full force even after the supposed crackdown that came in 2017.
We went to up through Kentucky where some I had some of the most heartbreaking stories I'd ever seen.
I let me get it personal here.
I landed in Ashland, Kentucky, and spent about three weeks there.
I had an Airbnb that was a farm way out in the country.
Beautiful, beautiful country, wonderful people.
I'd been on the road for about three months at this point.
I turned on Tinder or match or whatever dating profile thing I was on at the time.
Grinder.
You bastard.
I knew you were going to make that joke.
I had to.
I had to.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
But like, you know, within a couple of hours, I had a few matches.
And the first person I was interested in talking to, she asked me, you know, what are you doing in town about this?
You know, or why are you in town?
And I said, well, I'm working on this book about this.
And she was like, you're kidding me.
And I ended up meeting her for dinner and we talked for hours and she became an actual source in the book.
She had had four people in her family of had overdoses.
Two of them had died.
She had become an activist against, you know, the opioid, the pharmaceutical companies.
And she just became a phenomenal, you know, source for hooking me up with other people that, you know, state legislators and others who were dealing with this because she was such a gadfly and she was just a wonderful source.
But it's that easy.
You throw a rock in Appalachia and you're going to hit somebody who's been directly impacted by this.
Sure.
And then, you know, we got to tell other stories.
We went up to King of Prussia up in Pennsylvania and met a doctor and his son, both of whom separately had become opioid addicts.
Luckily, you know, for them, they had the kind of money to go to one of those expensive, you know, Arizona rehab centers and all that.
But, you know, we were trying to point out that it affected people of, you know, of means as well as the working class.
But in particular, this has hit the working class in Appalachia so hard.
And they were the first ones to suffer from this from Harlan County down in Kentucky all the way up to the northern part of Appalachia.
Because these are people who are doing particularly coal mining, but this is repetitive work.
This is repetitive stress work where you get injuries and you seek some kind of relief.
And these are people who a generation ago, two generations ago, if you had come to them and suggested that they do anything more on a weekend than moonshine or maybe a little bit of marijuana, you know, growing out in a holler, if you had suggested they stick a needle in their arm to get a high, they would have chased you out of the county if you'd gotten lucky, if not tarred and feathered.
But it was their doctor.
It was their dentist who gave them this.
So they're not doing drugs.
And then when the crackdown came on the pill mills, well, where did they have to turn?
They had to turn to heroin or fentanyl, even worse.
And so you have an entire generation of people who the idea of this would have been anathema to them just a generation ago.
And now they're all, you know, you have, I met a girl whose mothers and father, when she was 13 years old, was teaching her how to fake injuries when they'd go to the doctor's office so that she could get prescriptions.
And they would spend entire days going to various doctors to get these prescriptions for the same injuries, you know, fake injuries.
And that's what we found is that this didn't just destroy the individual lives or the family lives.
This destroyed communities.
This destroyed the soul of these people.
This became something a rot that goes so much further than just hurting the person who does become this.
And it's so easy for a lot of people when they are removed from this, when they haven't had experience with it, to condemn the quote unquote moral failings of these pill poppers who are just seeking a high.
Well, turns out that the majority of people who have become opioid addicts, you know where their first taste of it came from?
Their dentist.
Yeah.
16 year olds getting 30 pills for getting their wisdom teeth removed.
And it turns out that they might have needed two or three of those pills, and then they could have switched to a combination of Tylenol and ibuprofen and gotten just as much, if not more, relief without the addictive effects.
So this was all done.
It was nefarious.
It was planned.
You cannot at this point, based on everything I've seen, tell me that the Sackler family, the Sackler family, a Jewish family coming out of Eastern Europe, going back to the 1930s, who bought a small pharmaceutical company and then were the first to market things like to pay for the marketing of Xanax in the 60s.
They were the first to buy medical journals so that they could have fake peer-reviewed studies saying, oh, these time release pills, oh, they can't be abused and they're not addictive.
They're fine.
They wrote memos in the 1990s saying when we get, you know, when we get this through, it will be a blizzard of prescriptions across America.
A white blizzard, right?
Yeah, specifically.
And I'm sorry, but at this point, with all I know, you cannot tell me that that's what, you know, that that was just a casual phrase, white blizzard.
No, I don't believe it.
Deliberate.
I have like a ton of questions here, Spectre.
Definitely want Dr. Hill and Sam to get in to be able to pepper you with whatever they want.
I'm sorry, I'm therapy.
I just not at all.
Please, Spectre, that was awesome.
And bless you for being, you know, for hitting the road and going to see this where it happens.
I'm not rare.
I don't know anybody personally who has died from opiates.
Tons of people, of course, tons of people know it.
And God knows I've been prescribed them for knee surgeries before.
And I was always like, oh, it kind of makes me feel a little funny down my leg, but I don't get this opiate thing.
Whatever.
It's not about me.
But why were whites so overwhelmingly affected by this, the addiction and the death?
You would think that blacks and Mexicans and Asians and everybody else would also want to, you know, get that warm, fuzzy feeling and have no pain.
Well, once again, racial differences are real.
You have a very, each race seems to gravitate towards certain drugs.
I mean, blacks gravitate towards crack, always have.
And, you know, cocaine when they can get it or crack.
Mexicans towards the cheese heroin, the cheap stuff, and all that and marijuana, of course.
And whites, as I said before, part of it is a huge part of it is that they were targeted.
These pharmaceutical companies, particularly Purdue Pharma from the Sacklers, targeted these parts of Middle America where you had people who had repetitive stress injuries who would not trust the idea of ever taking drugs.
But I guess the mindset I could probably best put it in is: if you know anything about Elvis Presley, you know, he denied being a drug addict up until the end.
He would tell you, no, I don't take drugs.
I have prescriptions my doctor gave me.
Now, his doctor was a piece of trash.
Oh, trash.
That's all right.
That's all right.
Second hour.
His doctor was a terrible person and, you know, kind of a yes man who would just do whatever he thought to, you know, stay in Elvis' good graces.
But he earnestly did not believe and or sorry, honestly, did not believe that he was quote unquote taking drugs.
He was following his doctor's orders.
And I think so many of these people in Appalachia, in the Rust Belt, doing these blue-collar jobs, doing these hard labor jobs, or in turn who had simple minor medical procedures, whether it was like a knee surgery like you're talking about or even dental work, were prescribed these things.
And it was targeted.
It was the doctors were targeted by the pharmaceutical companies.
They were given incentives to hand these out.
They were lied to.
And you believe me?
They were part of it.
And there's no way pharmacies in these small towns could not have looked at the accumulation of the number of prescriptions they were getting and think, maybe something's going on here.
This doesn't seem right.
We're filling more prescriptions.
We're filling 100 pills per every single resident in this entire community.
What is going on?
But they didn't.
No, because they could either make money or they were just, you know, going along to get along.
And you sincerely believe after your research that this was a top-down Sackler family full-knowledge assault to get people hooked on stuff that they knew was highly addictive and would end in death eventually targeting the white race or not so much.
I don't want to put it in the middle.
I think it's chicken and egg.
I think that could have been their motivation.
And they also benefited from financially, or as could probably more commonly be the case throughout history with Jews, they saw a way to make money and they had no, they did not give a damn who they hurt because it wasn't their people.
And it's just a side benefit that it hurts their historic rivals, their historic enemy.
Fair characterization.
Total death, total opiate deaths, opioid deaths in America to date, rough ballpark.
Since the mid-1990s, 400,000.
Which is two times more than the quote-unquote Holocaust if you actually look at the real numbers.
Jesus Christ.
All right.
Dr. Hill, Sam, Pepper, Specter.
I don't want to monopolize the mic.
Yeah.
It's important to hold that conclusion and that top level view that Spectre is giving us there.
It's important to hold that before your eyes and to understand it in those terms.
The reason I say that is because if you have ever had to deal with somebody that is hooked on pills, it's a very insidious thing and it will devour that person's character.
These people will become very dishonest and sneaky.
And it becomes difficult to see it like for the problem that it really is, because it really does destroy the person's moral character where you ultimately hold them in contempt.
We have this.
That happens within a family.
Imagine how that happens within a community.
Yeah.
Where entire swaths of your fellow members of the community, your neighbors, all of a sudden you're all looking at each other's side-eyed because, you know, so, yeah, it's destructive all the way through to the core.
We had this friend some years ago that as we began to see was having a pill problem.
And at the time, my wife had had an operation and she had a prescription for these pills.
And this woman we knew was actually stole them out of my wife's purse.
And my wife looked at the bottle and she knew she hadn't taken them.
And she even called the pharmacy to verify, you know, how many were in there and stuff like that.
And this person just went on to be sneaky.
They will steal from you.
They will lie to you.
All those things where it really gets hard to be sympathetic towards the person.
And it really seemed, it really turns them into scumbags, you know.
But that's where you got to keep that higher.
And it's difficult to keep that higher understanding of what's really going on and the scale and scope of it as Spectre has just described.
Sure.
Specter, I grew up about 30 miles from Jasper, Alabama, and it is in the heart of Alabama coal mining country.
And I do know something about the type of people who live in that area.
And I would say that they're probably not that much different from the people that you interviewed in Tennessee and Kentucky.
But I can confirm what you said, that these people are not drug users.
You know, when they go to their doctor or their dentist and they get a prescription, they're getting medicine in their minds.
This is medicine for their condition.
These people would, you know, just like you said, they would balk at being known as drug users.
You know, they might hit a little moonshine on the weekend and smoke a little weed or something like that, but they didn't consider themselves, you know, big time drug users.
But, you know, I've seen the same thing you have when I go back home to visit friends.
There is not a single family that I know who has not been affected by this plague, this damn Jew plague of opioids in that part of Alabama where I grew up.
Yes, sir.
I saw it.
I saw it.
I mean, I got, I consider myself very fortunate for being able to do this project, not just because of what it represents and somebody getting a chance to help try to speak for these people and make their case to the world.
But I got to see parts of the world, parts of America that you normally wouldn't get to see.
I mean, if you're saving up your shekels at the end of the year and you got your two weeks vacation, you might want to go to the beach.
You might want to go skiing, something like that.
You might want to go visit family where you're from.
You don't necessarily want to go to some small town in Kentucky or West Virginia, some small town in Central PA or something like that.
I got to meet some of the best people in the world and I got to see some of the most beautiful country that we have in America, all the way from the south part of Appalachia all the way up to the north.
And it is heartbreaking to see the potential loss there, the opportunity cost, the impact of this.
As I said, not just on the individuals, not just on the families, their larger families, but entire communities murdered, murdered by this place.
Young people.
Young people, old people, children, babies born with opioid addiction themselves, crying and inconsolable.
It's absolutely, I mean, and what happens with the Purdue Pharma verdict that we had in September?
Oh, wow.
A company that's made somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 billion has to pay 3.8 billion in fines.
Oh, they have to disassociate or they have to break up the company and they're going to a new public interest company that will primarily cater or peddle supposed cures for the opioid crisis, basically selling the cure to the poison that they sold us before.
And the Sacklers, oh, they can't go into this kind of business anymore.
They get to keep their money.
It doesn't matter that they shipped literally billions of dollars offshore before this judgment came down to protect their asset.
I wonder where.
But part of this entire agreement with the Justice Department and Purdue Pharma, for those, I'm sorry if I didn't provide context.
Purdue Pharma was the largest of all the opioid manufacturers.
They made OxyContin the original Oxygen.
Right.
Obviously, there were several others that have been faced lawsuits, but this was the big one that came in September.
Part of the agreement was that there would not be criminal charges brought against the officers of Purdue Pharma or any of the Sackler family.
Think about that.
Yeah, that's their money.
That's huge.
Well, I got a shoehorn in there.
400, 450,000 deaths in their Jew claw hands.
And these good men are being held in the dock and put up, you know, their lives are at risk because of one car crash into a fat commie protesting hours after a state of emergency.
Sorry, just absolutely.
No, you absolutely, no, Kyle Rittenhouse defends himself against a pedophile, a Jew, and a sexual felon, which I guess that's kind of like the old joke.
They all walk into a bar.
It's the same person.
But yeah, he's facing criminal charges, fighting for his life.
These people get to escape with billions of dollars, and I guarantee that they will not be criminally prosecuted for murdering 400,000 of your fellow Americans, the majority of which were white working class people.
And they even had some nauseating.
Yeah.
They had, Didn't they have the chutzpah to say, like, well, you're either going to do this or you're not getting a penny from us for the recovery, right?
Because they were going to rebrand themselves as like an addiction rehabilitation company to make money on the murders and then make money on the back end with all the addicts they created.
There's a little bit of that, but that's basically, yeah.
Yeah, it was just, it was pure chutzpah.
It was pure Jewish privilege.
And I'm sorry if I, if I, sorry if my voice gets a little soaring here, I just, it really angers me.
And two years after this, you think that my exposure to this, I spent nine months on the road doing this, and you'd think that I would be inured to it.
I would like, you know, be calm down about it.
I would, you know, be able to discuss this rationally.
But every time I start thinking about it, it makes me want to throw something against the wall.
It makes me want to smash things.
How about for anybody who's listening who is currently addicted or knows someone who is, any idea what the most effective treatment for this poison is?
Oh, gosh.
I'm not the person to ask that.
I do know that there are effective treatments.
Is there a methadone for Oxycontin addiction, for example?
Well, literally, methadone is a cure for opioid addiction, supposedly, but it's actually worse than the, you know, in a lot of ways, it's worse than the actual drug itself.
These people become addicted to methadone after that.
There are programs at the very least.
I guess I'm not qualified to tell you.
There are programs that you can reach out to.
I don't want to blackpill anybody, but for hardcore opiated addicts, the recidivism rate is very high.
It takes a lifetime of work after you deal with it.
Coach, you mentioned your knee.
I had shoulder surgery, I think, back in 2012.
And I'd had opioids before, I think, for Wisdom Teeth.
And they gave me a heavier dose for this.
And I had like the thing that does the cold water over your area where the surgery was.
And like I be immobile for days, rotator cuff surgery.
And I actually, after the second day of the pills, I handed the bottle to my then wife and I said, look, I'm kind of enjoying these too much.
You're going to have to give these to me as prescribed because otherwise I'm going to start taking them more frequently each time.
I could tell that right then that if I continued down that road of self-medicating, even though I had the prescription and I definitely was in pain from the surgery, this would become my full-time job.
I could easily see myself becoming a full-time addict going around trying to fill these pills out.
So it is a rough road.
It is not something easy and God bless anybody fighting it.
But it can be done.
I heard so many success stories on the road.
I've met so many people who had not only recovered, but who had become recovery experts themselves and were helping others.
And so this book actually has these stories in there too.
So don't worry that this is going to be entirely a triggering book or a depressing book.
There are so many stories of hope and good people out there fighting the good fight.
And that's what, to me, that's who that book is dedicated to.
And somebody has to speak for them.
That's what we wanted.
And now we just ask, where's the justice for these people?
Man, bless you for doing this, Spectre.
Do you think that we've turned the corner on that?
And I don't even want to, it breaks my heart too, but like fentanyl coming in to backfill for Oxy.
I mean, do you think this thing is going to start getting squash now that it's everywhere in the news and the lawsuit and everything?
I hate to tell you this.
No, I hate to tell you this, but ever since the government did a crackdown on pill mills and they made it harder, they still are out there.
And some of these doctors that are out there, and what a surprise, the majority of them are non-white, usually Indian, now who are the doctors who are like the prescribing machines.
And then the pill mills are, you know, they just pop up, or these little pharmacies run by these people that let's just say they don't have the white people's interests at heart.
But as an alternative for a lot of these folks, it's they have to turn to heroin.
And increasingly, um, the heroin trade is uh co-mixed with the fentanyl trade.
And fentanyl is so deadly, so ridiculous.
You actually, I actually have had stories that I of cops that I talked to where they would open a trunk and there would be a supply of fentanyl in there and they'd reach into a bag and just to see what you know to shake it.
To you know, even though they had their plastic gloves on and just the exposure through the air to that fentanyl, they would have to be Narcan because they would pass out from and nearly overdose.
Yeah, I can't remember what the hell we got prescribed recently or within the past year or two, but they gave us Narcan along with it.
I was like, What the hell is this?
Uh, of course, we were like, you know, thanks, we'll keep that in our travel first aid kit, but yeah, just throw it in there.
No, that's Narcan is an interesting uh case study there because a lot of uh police stations or sorry, police departments um and firefighters were issued Narcan in the the throughout the teens, the 2000 teens.
And what that did was fortunately, it did save a lot of lives, but it gave politicians the ability to say, Hey, we're doing something about the opioid crisis because, look, opioid overdose deaths have gone down.
The problem is, overdoses were increasing, but because the Narcan was more handy and they were able to save those lives with those first responders, it gave the illusion that they had some kind of control or some kind of handle on this problem.
And that's again just the way that government always jukes numbers and Jews numbers, and yeah, so that's something to deal with.
Brutal, uh, MP, you got that question?
I don't want to stop on you here.
Yes, uh, so there is a show coming out about, or maybe it's going on currently about like Purdue Pharma, and Richard Sackler is in it.
So, I'm wondering, how do you think that they're going to spin it?
Because it can't just be like made by Jews, Jews bad, Jews did this because it's on a major network.
If you're talking about the show Dope Sick, yes, with Michael Keaton, yes.
Um, I haven't seen it.
I've actually both doing the research of this, myself and Richard, uh, we avoided you know, watching or reading any other media or whether it was documentary or uh fictional, you know, uh, portrayals.
And to this day, I still have because when I talk about this, I don't want to like accidentally steal somebody else's idea or observation or hot take.
But my understanding of that uh series, I think it's a series, or maybe it's a movie, it's a series.
Um, okay, so they make it the hero is, of course, a plucky black woman, and I'm pretty sure that they're going to neutralize any reference to Sacklers as being Jews.
There's no way that they would like point the finger at the Jew in this because the Jew is 100% behind this, and they can't have that.
Um, I'm, I don't want to playing Richard looks hang on.
I'm sorry, I just want to throw this out there.
I'm at one percent, um, so I might have to go, or I might have no choice in the matter.
Um, coach, is there anything else you wanted to throw in there before I have to possibly jump off?
Uh, no, Spectre.
I mean, God bless you.
Buy the book.
Uh, it's probably a brutal read, um, just hitting the ground and seeing the devastation.
I don't know what else to say.
I mean, I have to say, well, it's a journey to the heart of darkness, and it is stories that are of despair, but also some stories of hope.
So, I hope that people will read this and be uplifted by it as much as they are angered and ready to demand justice for it.
Thank you for your service, brother.
Spectre, before you go, I wanted to mention a couple years ago, you gave this about a 15-minute speech.
It was in the summer of the great shutting.
Maybe you remember this.
And it was just a barn burner.
I carried that message around for a couple of years on my phone until I had to get rid of that phone.
I don't have it anymore, but I remember you talking on there.
You're not going insane, or you're not going insane.
You're going sane, you know, and you had a lot of great lines.
And so thank you for that.
I remember that speech very well.
Thank you, brother.
My pen, my effort, my everything I have belongs to our people and is dedicated to our people and to our victory.
So thank you guys for having me on.
Thank you, Dr. Honor.
It was an honor.
I appreciate you doing what you did.
I know writing a book is not an easy thing.
No, sir.
I had great people and my partner, Richard McClure, was, it wouldn't have been done without him.
But I appreciate you guys having me on.
And I just want to say, see you, Kyle.
See you, Spectre.
You're not welcome back on until we get new white life out of you, by the way.
Last appearance.
Yes, sir.
All right.
Good night, guys.
Take care, brother.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
If you're listening to this, buy the book.
You have to.
It's your obligation both for the cause to inform yourself and in honor of over 400,000 deaths at the hand of Jewish poison, essentially.
To give a little bit of a palate cleanser after that one, because I'm feeling pretty blue here.
I am going to read this wonderful email that we got from Antlers88 to kick things up a notch going into the close and to navigating the collapse.
And we got a little special something for you to close it out this week.
So don't you dare go get distracted by life and go somewhere and not close out this outstanding show.
Here goes.
Dear coach Sam Smasher and the rest of the birth panel.
I wanted to tell you guys how great the show is and I look forward to new episodes each week.
I've been a listener for a while now, but I became increasingly more tuned in with the birth of my son.
I'd ask for a new white life announcement, but it's a bit belated at this point, given he celebrated his first birthday last month.
He is a true Aryan treasure to me with his beautiful blue eyes, golden locks of blonde hair, and of course, his snow white skin.
My wife and I could not be happier.
I wanted to point out something profound that I believe Andreas from the Nordic Frontier said.
It's not an exact quote, but he said, once you have children, you will no longer question the meaning of life.
This was an absolute epiphany to me when I heard it.
I used to be extremely black pilled on the state of the world.
I thought a lot about death nearly every day, not killing myself or anything gay like that, but more so just the idea and fear of dying who I currently was.
This, of course, was in connection with the thought that I've never truly accomplished anything that I consider valuable.
No real contribution to any kind of struggle other than my own meaningless survival.
But since becoming a father, I realize that thoughts like this no longer plague my mind.
Instead, I live for the here and now.
The true meaning of life has been realized.
We are led to believe by Jewish media and entertainment that our lives are these grand adventures where we must travel the world and consume goods to be fulfilled, or that we are the center of the universe as if we are the main character in some kind of retarded story.
This, of course, is complete trash when compared to creating new white life.
I believe it was you, Coach, who said that if you think you're red-pilled now, wait until you have children.
And I can't begin to describe how true that statement is.
You undergo radical changes inside when you have children.
I wish every one of our guys could experience those feelings right now because they are all for the better.
Reading books, sharing memes, listening to podcasts, it's all well and good, but nothing will red pill you more than the thought of securing the existence and future for your own newly created flesh and blood.
Then the struggle becomes real.
Thank you for all you do.
Full House has become my much-needed weekly white pill as a reminder to stay strong, positive, and overall strive to be a great father.
And that's from Antlers88.
God bless you, Antlers88.
Beautiful, beautiful sentiment right there.
Yeah, that's full.
Yep.
That's Full House in a nutshell giving the shout out to Andreas.
And yeah, we know that feeling.
I mean, hey, truth be told, even having kids is not some magic panacea that makes everything hunky-dory and glorious every single day of the week.
It can be a long slog.
There can be extraordinarily frustrating days.
And it can make things sometimes even worse because you think about the state of the world and your beautiful children growing up in it.
But absolutely, it gives you no, I mean, of course, certainly some parents go off the rails and abandon hope and sometimes even abandon their families or life itself.
But having those beautiful kids, just one, is all it takes to realize that your life is not your own, as the Manor Bun says.
Yeah.
And you don't have the option of checking out or surrendering or going away into that good night.
Yep.
And when you look in their eyes, you see the whole world.
Yeah, it puts things into perspective.
And it's not that it solves everything, but you see things as it really is, as they really are.
And maybe other experiences in life might be parallel.
Like maybe if you've been in a war or something like that, you get kind of woken up to the reality of things and you stop thinking about yourself so much and you see the world as it really is.
Amen.
All right, Mr. Producer, let us go to navigating the collapse here and then we'll land this puppy.
Here we go, Nathaniel Scott.
Let's see what he's got in store for us this week.
Welcome to Navigating the Collapse with your host, Nathaniel Scott.
John Amory was a British fascist and Nazi collaborator during the Second World War.
He created propaganda for the Germans and attempted to get British volunteers to join the SS.
He was arrested in 1945 and charged with eight counts of high treason, the penalty for which was death.
Without batting an eye, he pled guilty to all eight.
He was summarily hanged by the infamous executioner, Albert Pierre Point, who remarked that Amory was the bravest person I'd ever hanged.
After the execution, Amory's father wrote the following epitaph.
At end of wayward days, he found a cause.
T'was not his country's, only time can tell, if that defiance of our ancient laws was treason or foreknowledge.
He sleeps well.
Here is John Amory, in his own words.
Inevitably, there are so many lies that are circulated about what is going on in my country that people are often apt to think that England is united behind Mr. Churchill and that the English people know why they are fighting.
Well, that is completely false.
We used to live under a system of free speech and of free opinion, which in principle was quite all right.
But for a long time now, and especially since the beginning of these hostilities, our British Constitution has been completely travestied.
Instead of a system of free speech and free opinion, the English people live today under the worst possible form of dictatorship.
Not the dictatorship of a patriot who desires to save his country, but the dictatorship of an oligarchy, whose interests, for the most part, run completely contrary to the interests of the British people.
To explain this, we've got to go back, one second, to the time when the British Empire was built up.
This empire was built up by our great adventurers, such as Drake, such as Clive, such as Captain Cook.
People who, in a certain sense, might be compared to the Norwegian Vikings.
That these people, in the course of their conquests, may have committed acts of piracy and of banditism does not take away from the fact that they were animated with a great ideal for their country and a desire to bring their country wealth and prosperity.
Unfortunately for us, from the time of Queen Victoria and from the time of the Jew Disraeli, these conquests which had been obtained by English genius and by the sacrifice of the best English blood became the property of this tiny clique of people who actually control England today.
These Jewish merchants and Aryan merchants and the aristocrats who have prostituted themselves to international finance have exploited in the sole interests of their clique conquests and the riches that were conquered by real Englishmen.
One day, a day of reckoning is going to come when these two men, Roosevelt and Churchill, their friends and the plutocrats, Jewish and Aryan, will find themselves face to face with European civilization that they are at present doing their best to stab in the back, while that civilization is fighting against a horde from the East.
Not only will they come face to face with that Europe, with that civilization, but also they will have to explain themselves to their own fellow countrymen, to us Englishmen, whom they have so shamefully betrayed, to the widows, to the orphans, to the crippled sailors, and to the crippled soldiers of what was once the great British Empire.
They will have to explain why, when we had everything, when no one menaced us, they plunged us and civilization with us into this hell.
I didn't take the road to Berlin because I disagreed with Winston Churchill over the beverage plan, which incidentally has died, or as to how the British post office was to be run, but because I have the desire to walk along my English Piccadilly a hundred yards from which I was born, and to say what I like when I feel like saying it.
What I have done, I shall never regret, because as each day passes by, it becomes more and more obvious that the present war has very little to do with flag, with passport, or with anything that previously constituted a nationality.
We are face to face with a war of conception, whether we like it or not.
Something that can only be compared to the wars of religion of some 300 years ago.
There are 70 odd nations in the world, but there are only three options open to us.
That of communism, of Judeo-Mongol destruction of this civilization of ours, that of a reaction, of a plutocracy which hopes to keep in its twisted and blood-stained hands the privileges and wealth it has acquired and stolen from the working classes, or else the road many of us have chosen, that of a real revolution, a revolution which is nationalist and socialist.
We shall probably have a very hard fight.
Never mind.
For my part, I refuse to believe that our civilization, which has taken 2,000 years to build up, can perish in front of the conceptions of the Talmud and the wild barbary of the steppes.
And any student of history can see that never has a reaction, an attempt to return to the past triumphed over a revolution which was young and active.
But as an observer, I am as sure as I am sure the sun will rise tomorrow that a victory of the liberators of Europe, whether they come from the east or whether they come from the west, is a Jewish victory.
And that that victory is the end of our civilization.
The end of Christianity.
The end of 2,000 years' aspiration towards something better.
And all that will be wiped out and washed out.
And it will disappear as Babylon disappeared, as Athens disappeared, and as Rome disappeared.
And we shall be plunged into a dark and barbarous era because we will not have shown ourselves capable of defending that civilization.
Because we will not have been able to add our little link to the long chain of progress that our ancestors have handed to us.
And it's no good remaining in one's house, in the smug comfort of bourgeoisie principles when the very foundations of civilization are rocking under us.
It's just as useless to try to read the future in the bottom of coffee cups or by night in sitting up late and trying to study the stars to figure out who'll win the war.
It's also quite silly to think that, somehow or other, everything will work out alright.
Because if one takes the trouble to study history, after the passage of the barbarians, whole civilizations, their languages, and their people have completely disappeared from the face of the globe, like a sandcastle that's been flattened out by the waves of the sea on the seashore.
But Mr. Roosevelt is building a lot of aeroplanes.
We can't stop him doing it.
But the English are preparing to invade Europe.
We can't stop them trying.
But the Russians have crossed the Polish border.
It's very regrettable, but it doesn't change anything.
It doesn't stop, as I've said and many with me, for over 10 years, that Mr. Roosevelt and his Jews are the festering sore of humanity.
That the plutocrats of London wanted this war, and now they've got it.
And that the communists are the greatest danger civilization has ever been faced with since the days of the destruction of Rome.
If, ladies and gentlemen, we have not the courage, all of us, to get up and to fight for civilization, or at least to help civilization as much as we each individually can, not only will our civilization disappear, not only will we all be dead, but we ourselves, our politicians, our terrorists, our bankers, our bourgeoisie,
and our intelligentsia will only leave to history a vague memory of decadent and herb-line imbeciles quarreling amongst themselves.
Unintelligible quarrels and stupidities.
Face to face with the horde from out of the eastern steppe and face to face with the wild imperialism of Judah.
And we shall leave to history a record so pusillanimous, so vain, and so incomprehensible that the barbarians that will have smashed us will hold in history a name a thousand times greater, a thousand times more prestigious than ours.
Well, my good friends, only history will be able to judge whether I am a traitor or not.
Oh, boy man uh, Sam Dr Hill uh, get in your cars and meet me at the place.
I'm ready after this one.
Inspiring, very inspiring.
Yeah, and I never heard of that guy either.
Yeah, you talk to people sometimes and maybe they're kind of interested in our date, our ideas, but then you know well they could, they could get involved with our ideas and maybe there'll be trouble or they could stay in their safe little world.
There, you're not going to be able to stay in your safe little world.
This fight is coming to you, to your choice.
That's right.
So there's no choice about it.
The choice is death or resistance.
Yeah, as as uh, as it said, you don't have to go hunting for dragons to slay, they'll come to you.
Yeah, that's right, and the system knows it too.
And just to put a red, white and black ribbon on this one uh, the system's afraid and it's also lashing out, and we see that across the country in courtrooms.
And more and more of our people are being born with the right stuff and they're waking up to reality.
And it's incumbent on you, dear listener, to take the spirit from that navigating the collapse, the knowledge that you know deep in your brain and deep in your heart about what's going on out there and prepare yourselves, your families, to tribe up and be as competent as all hell, because we cannot lose this time around.
All right uh, I feel like the, the guy from the old Maxell ads, you know, sitting in the chair with the speakers in front of him.
Boom, just yeah, loaded back from that one, really dating myself there.
But uh, all right uh Sammy Baby, thank you so much.
I know you.
Yeah you, you were right on time, as usual.
You had something to do tonight.
We we shifted the show for uh, for Specter he was, he was gassed.
We had to shift it tonight.
But thanks so much for being with us.
Can't wait for next week.
Yeah, great show.
And uh man, what some really great guests this week.
That's right.
And uh, mr producer uh little, uh Bird told me that you might have a special guest on your show sometime soon.
Let's not spoil it.
But uh, your show is the final storm and I I hope that works out for you and thank you so much for making this show possible.
Do what I can, modest and understated you.
You've been great so far.
And, of course, dr Hill i'm all smiles here over the microphone.
It's about uh 35 degrees here in the Great Mountain.
Mama, I am a uh transplant to Appalachia.
I love it and uh, you know, if i'm, if i'm lucky enough, this is where i'll die in old age, sir.
So if i'm ever down your way or if you're ever up this way uh, it'd be my honor to shake your hand and and buy you a cold one.
Sir, that would be uh, my honor as well, and i'm at the southern end of the Appalachians and it's about 30, it's about 37 degrees, So that makes difference.
Feels good.
Feels good for Northern Europeans.
Thank you so much for coming on the show.
Bless you and all of your wonderful members of League of the South, including, I won't name her, but a particular lady who I've been online friends with for many years.
We've been, yeah, you know.
Yeah, she knows who she is.
Yep, we've been chatting about the trial and everything.
And I'm only sorry it took us 108 episodes to have you on, but better late than never.
Well, sir, I hope it won't be the last time.
Certainly not.
Anytime you're feeling a little lonely down there on a 10 p.m. on Thursday, Friday night, whenever we record the show, you're welcome on anytime, sir.
All right, you bet.
Full house episode 108 was recorded on a beautiful, it's been absolutely beautiful November these past few days.
Leaves changing half moon up there.
I can just see outside the great Appalachian gazebo here.
And I feel like a million bucks after this show.
Great guests, great cause, great work put in.
And with spirit like that and rock solid instincts and commitment, we can't lose.
So to everybody out there listening, whether you are following along in the Charlottesville trial every week, or you're a southern nationalist or southern nationalist, curious whether you have families suffering or have lost loved ones because of the opioid crisis, stay strong, be the best that you can every day.
And above all, maintain white pride.
And if you can, bring new white life into this world.
Now, we've had a lot, a lot of laughs and tears and good times and sad thoughts during this show, but this week we got something really special for you.
It's a full house first.
Now, this November happens to be the 83rd anniversary of Kristallnacht, which truly was one of the worst events in all of human history.
This, of course, is, I'm serious.
There were broken windows throughout Germany at Jewish businesses.
There were a couple fires at synagogues.
And, you know, the fact that a young, promising German diplomat was murdered in France by a Jewish radical in no way at all justified the German people spontaneously rising up in righteous anger and extracting a little bit of flesh on their own account.
So we're closing this week out with a very somber and respectful song in the memory of the 83rd anniversary of Kristallnacht.
And this song is called O Crystal Night, and it's by the 14 seasons.
It happens to be set to the same tune as another group of the same name.
So I hope you listen to this reverently.
All right.
God bless Dr. Hill, Spectre, Sam, Smasher, Mr. Producer, our entire Full House family, the audience.
We love you.
We'll talk to you next week and see you.
White pride worldwide.
See ya.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Uncle Ladoff was the head of state.
All Jews remember Crystal Night.
Oh, Crystal Night.
You know, we search for all those yid store names.
Cohen's cold words in front of Maine.
What a lovely crystal night.
Oh, I got a fuzzy feeling as the glass caught the moon and I, as I recall it, ended way too soon.
Oh, crystal night, motivating, radicalizing me.
It was everything I dreamt it'd be.
Sweet revenge, that crystal night.
In dreidels around and smashing them all aside.
Fuzzy feeling
And I, as I recall, it ended way too soon.
Oh, Crystal Knight, why did it take so long to get a green light?
Felt not wrong, oh man, it felt so right.
What a lovely crystal night Just like falling in dreidels Oh, crystal night.