When this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're going to see some serious shit.
Welcome to episode 49
of Full House, the world's most visionary show for white fathers, aspiring ones, and the whole Biofam.
I am, as always, your insightful host, Coach Finstock, back with another two hours of mostly wholesome infotainment for the racially aware and those still somehow playing footsie with our ideas years after the extent of the rot in this transcontinental train wreck should have become painfully apparent.
We have a very special guest in the white room with us tonight, but before we meet him, we are issuing a call to arms, writing arms, of course.
JO, go ahead.
If you go to nationallife and justice.com, you will see that Eric Stryker has published the mailing addresses for a bunch of our guys who are behind bars.
People are constantly asking any sort of public-facing person in the movement, what do I do?
How do I contribute?
You know, is there something I can give money to?
Is there something I can just do?
Especially now that no one's doing activism or whatever.
And this is a thing you can do that's tremendously important.
A lot of us know a lot of these guys that are locked up and we know how important it is to hear from them.
And you might ask yourself, well, what do I say?
I don't even know this guy.
I was literally writing about bird watching.
Like anything matters.
Like you can just talk about like what you do.
Like don't write anything that's going to get anyone in trouble.
Yes, you have to have a return address.
I don't know.
It takes 15 minutes to write a letter.
It feels good too.
Like you, it's so rare that we sit down to write an actual letter.
I've done this before and I do it on my laptop.
I type it out in Word just because it's faster.
And you feel like you're doing something good, which is of course rewarding for you.
And then when you get a letter back from the joint, it's really exciting, right?
You get like a thrill up your leg, like Chris Matthews seeing Obama's crease pant leg.
But obviously it's not about your gratification.
It is about helping these guys make it through and let them know that they are not forgotten and brightening their day, frankly.
Yeah, and let me interject.
I've been writing to guys for a long time.
I did it way more in the past, like in the late 80s and through the 90s.
And I honestly and sadly got out of it.
And this is in this last month or two has been the first time I've been getting back into it.
But it's, I would say, do not be afraid about writing and, oh, you're going to be on some list or something like that.
I've never experienced any kind of repercussion that way.
I mean, you're just writing a letter.
It's a friendly letter and it means a lot.
It's bringing cheer together.
Heck, I mean, just the way we even get together and talk to each other.
You know, it brings you up.
It picks you up and it's important.
Amen.
Yeah.
And I can understand guys having concern about getting doxed or getting put on some observation list by writing to a prisoner, but just sack up and do it.
Yeah.
Figure it out.
Get a post office box.
Whatever you have to do, use a pseudonym, but just do it.
It's the right thing to do.
No excuses.
Just being a faggot.
There you go.
All right.
Let's move on.
Real quick, another special announcement before we get on to the meat of the content.
Just before the show, a friend and a fan of the show reached out to say that he discovered an extra copy of Kevin McDonald's Culture of Critique in his bookshelf, and he wanted to donate it.
He'll mail it, you know, gratis to a listener who emails into the show with a particularly motivating or inspiring story about either fatherhood or making advances in prepping.
So this is not, yeah, this is not a gag.
You don't have to put your address in there when you submit your story.
But if you have the best story, please keep it honest.
Of course, we'll send you a free copy of Culture of Critique.
And I actually know that I have a second copy of Camp of the Saints at home.
So I will send Camp of the Saints to the runner-up or Mr. Producer just says, bruh, I want that book.
Sorry, FP.
Go buy it.
Anyway, so we've got some books that we will mail to you.
No, this is not a honey trap for your address, ye paranoid people.
I will mail it myself, and y'all know who I am, and it ends there.
Anyway, so drop us a line.
Yeah, I'll sign it, Smasher.
Oh, bestill my heart.
Yeah.
You know how to flatter the host.
Anyway, all right.
So, yeah, send us a motivational or an inspiring story and get a free book.
It'll be a good thing.
And drop us a line, fullhouse show at protonmail.com.
There's two S's in there for you know what.
All right, on to the birth panel.
First up, he don't want no handout living and he don't want part of anything they're given.
He's proud and white, and he's got a song to sing.
Sam, welcome back.
Thanks, Coach.
That's a wonderful welcome again.
And hey, speaking of POWs and all that type of thing, some people are working on a benefit compilation, and bands are going to contribute a few songs each to this thing, and it'll be for sale cheap, but money will be going towards prisoners and prisoner families.
And my band is going to contribute a couple songs.
So this will be some weeks or probably a month or two in the making, but I'll give you more details as it gets closer.
But it's a nice project that's going on.
Outstanding.
Let us know where people can get it when it's ready.
And I'll plug for you, Sam, when we post the show on Friday or Saturday at the latest.
We'll post episode three or installment three of your autobiography on full-house.com.
Yep.
All right, good.
I haven't had to make too many edits.
And you haven't complained, Sam, about me taking out the N-word.
No.
I had to do it.
I was like, oh, I had such a tortured soul about taking that out because it adds heart and soul to it.
But, you know.
Yeah, no, whatever you think is appropriate.
Good, man.
Thank you, sir.
All right.
Next up, he's said a few things, and he'll admit it.
If you want to get ahead, you got to hump and get it.
He's a white boy looking for a place to do his thing.
Potato Smasher.
Thank you for the ones who smashes.
You smashed your way home just in time to join us for the show.
Thank you for hustling and not wrecking yourself in the process.
Hey, I've never done that.
Ever.
Okay.
All right.
Believe you.
All right.
Good stuff, man.
Until he's got a lot to lose, but a lot to gain.
Some might call him a good time fella.
He ain't black and he ain't yellow.
He's just a white boy looking for a place to make rope swing.
Joe, welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
Hey, Smasher, can I ask you a question real quick?
You just did.
Why do black people smell bad?
Because they can't pay their water bills.
So blind people can hate them too.
Oh!
Massive.
J.O., the professional podcaster there.
Good timing.
And the Full House insiders know what's coming here.
But for the audience, we are honored and excited to welcome our next and final guest on with us tonight.
He is a proud father.
He's a white father.
He's a proud husband.
He's got several children.
He's a full house fan.
And he just happens to be blind.
So B.D., welcome to the show.
We call you B.D. for blind dad.
Your wife might call you a BD for a different reason.
How are you, buddy?
Thanks for coming on.
Hey, guys.
It's really nice to see you.
Thanks for having me on.
Yeah, see, thank you for making that pun so we don't have to feel guilty there.
Get out of the way.
Yeah.
Yeah, if the audience cringes at any blind puns that we make, just know that B.D. is a cool guy and he's totally comfortable and he's not going to get all butthurt about it.
But yeah, a little backstory.
You reached out by email maybe two or three months ago with a question for the show.
And I think we read it on.
But your story was so fascinating that I thought we got to have you on and you're a good sport for doing it and taking the negligible risk in doing so.
But before we get on to the particulars of your situation, please do share with us your ethnicity, your religion, and how you came to be listening to an audience show like Full House or being in the cause.
Ethnicity.
On my dad's side, it's pretty much Scots-Irish.
Pretty much, I can trace family from every country, you know, in the UK and Ireland.
You know, they had farmers down south when they got here.
My mom's side is good German Catholics and a little bit of Irish mixed in.
Okay.
So typical early American stock, I'd say.
Good stuff.
Religion.
Religion.
Man, it's been kind of a long journey, but I consider myself Christian identity.
So hey, gang.
Brother message.
Yeah, we got a couple emails in the mailbag from listeners to the religion show, a couple of whom said they were interested in Christian identity based on Sam.
And yeah, it's fascinating and certainly fills a lot of things for our side that otherwise religious people might have issues with.
And how about for you, BD?
How did you end up becoming pro-white or listening to Full House or however you decide to classify yourself?
Well, I've always been racially aware to a certain extent, thanks to my grandpa who grew up during the Depression down south.
So that laid a really good foundation for me.
You know, I had my moments, my, you know, default liberal moments that we, most of us usually have.
You know, but once I started having kids, you know, you get more serious about things and you look and you start noticing things.
So I started, you know, just reading some of our guys.
And actually, the first thing I read was the Institute for Histoker Review sort of really, you know, red-pilled me on that question right out of the gate first.
So I got that done.
Everything else was just easy after that.
So you jump in.
Yeah.
How are you?
Is this Braille or text to speech?
It's just, it's speech software on a computer.
So it's just a screen reader.
So I have a robot voice red-pilling me on the JQ.
So HR experience.
Yes.
Yeah.
Podcasts must be the most excellent freaking medium for a blind dude.
Yeah, for the longest time, I was basically a boomer who was blind.
I didn't want anything to do with any of this, you know, technology that was available to me.
Most blind people are neat.
And so they go on about their new technology.
And I can do this now.
And it was just, I didn't care because I just wasn't interested.
But, you know, once I started getting into it and I discovered podcasts, it's like I'm, you know, I am an apex consumer now.
So yeah, so I'm really thankful that people are producing things.
I'm just impressed that you don't sound like a retard.
You really struggle to overcome that, you know, the speech thing with your handicapped.
No, I know that.
Dude, we can get into that later, but I have heard, I've heard things like that.
Like, well, you don't sound blind.
It's like, okay, what is the blindness that way?
I swear to God that I worked with a girl who brought braille menus to deaf people.
Yeah.
Were you born blind or did you go blind?
No, I was, I could see up until I was eight or nine or so.
Then I just started losing vision every few years.
There's an issue with my optic nerve, which is basically the cord.
Terrible optics, bad optics.
Yeah, I have the worst optics.
You can wear swastika t-shirts and nobody can say anything.
You're like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I trust these funny.
I got to the thrift store.
I don't know what it is.
But yeah, I'd lose vision every few years until I woke up one morning when I was 21 and I couldn't see anymore.
So, you know, it wasn't totally unexpected, but it's definitely not, it wasn't a great time.
But, you know, what are you going to do?
You're going to be depressed or just learn to cope.
And we all know how to cope.
So good for you.
And the only coping I do is with trim.
I haven't made a construction joke in a long time.
I didn't even get it.
You cope trim?
Smash?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's instead of doing interior corner angles, you just put one like straight flat up against the wall.
And then you the process of like tracing the other piece so it fits together kind of like a puzzle piece.
It's called coping.
Never heard it.
Thank you, brother.
It's also the frequently used term of like if you're looking at a ramp or a 90 degree angle, for example, like a skateboard ramp or a bike ramp, that piece of pipe that's at the top of it.
Yeah.
That's coping.
Learning things here.
All right, BD, how did you go from when you lost your vision, were you still a single guy, I assume?
I was living with someone at the time, not my wife.
And so, yeah.
So, I wasn't alone, but she was blind too.
So, I guess I was kind of alone.
But how'd you go from blind guy to married with kids, I guess, is what I'm getting at, how that courtship.
Well, when this happened, I didn't have any kind of reliable family.
So I had to, you know, take the Greyhound bus to the hospital, get myself checked out, you know, check myself out, go home.
And I spent a lot of time at home the next couple of months.
And I met current wife only.
You were feeling your way forward.
Exactly.
And so we sort of, you know, sort of met through mutual friends.
And so we were part, we played a sport together.
So, yeah.
And so we met through that.
So it's just kind of a modified sport that blind people play.
And so, yeah, we sort of met through that.
And yeah.
So probably six months after I went blind, we met.
So and started having kids pretty quickly.
That's amazing.
So how did you figure out that she was the one for you figuratively or attraction-wise?
You know, did you, did you, did you literally fuel her up to see if you like what you felt?
Of course.
Yeah.
All right.
So it's always fair.
But we just sort of, we came from the same background.
And, you know, we moved in with each other probably a month or two after we met.
And we never even seriously talked about getting married.
We just sort of assumed it was going to happen.
So, you know, one kid, two kid, you know, moving cross country a few times, look for jobs.
You know, it's not easy to find a job when you're blind, obviously.
And I was born and raised in a Rust Belt town where it's hard enough for normal people to find a job.
So, you know, so multiple Greyhound bus trips cross-country, train trips cross-country, looking for work, living here, living there, trying to find the best situation.
And managed to have multiple kids in that time period.
Amazing.
Mr. Producer just said stud in the chat for going for that.
Yeah.
Is your wife eligible for like social security disability?
Well, the thing is, when you're blind, you get SSI, which is usually, you know, $500, $600 a month.
But if you get married, one person loses that.
So for the longest time, we didn't get married because, you know, we didn't want to lose that income.
This sounds, you know, whatever.
But so I didn't like being so dependent, you know, on that check or whatever to put off life plans.
So I just, you know, just tried as hard as I could to find out.
Yeah, damn.
Find a job where I didn't need to rely on it so you could get married and move on with things.
Like, I don't want you to give the game away on what you do on air, but like I'm just sitting here trying to think of like, have I ever had a job that I could do without looking?
Well, I'll just say that the speech software I use for the computer basically allows me to do most anything that you can do.
Okay.
Aside from, you know, programming, coding, things like that.
For instance, I knew of a guy that worked for the EPA, the blind guy.
So, you know, they could do things like that if you, you know, you're smart, obviously, and you can understand things and you can fulfill those types of tasks.
Bureaucrat gang doesn't do any work anyway.
So what's the difference?
Do you wear sunglasses?
Do you use a walking cane to sort of whack people as you go along?
Or how do you navigate the world on a daily basis?
No glasses.
And the main reason why you see blind people wearing sunglasses is because a lot of times their eyes are all jacked up for whatever reason.
Also, a lot of blind folks are really light sensitive.
So they wear the sunglasses.
I don't have either of those issues, so I just let it fly.
I use a cane.
Thought about getting a dog, but it's just too much maintenance for me.
I'm too lazy, honestly, to have a dog, a guy dog.
They're on a really strict feeding schedule, bathroom schedule.
When you're out, you have to find a place for them to go to the bathroom.
Yeah, I think you got your hands full with a bunch of rug rats under the roof and your own situation.
My cane has gotten me through a lot of sticky situations in downtown Detroit and Chicago.
And so I've made it.
I helped out a blind guy that got like stuck on like it was downtown in an urban environment and there was essentially like patio seating for a restaurant.
And this dude kind of ended up like trapped in the thick of it.
I saw him there with his cane and I walked over and helped him out and I felt like I was a rich person for about five minutes.
That's happened to me and that's the most frustrating thing in the world because you look like an asshole.
You look so stupid when you're in the when you're in the little sidewalk cafe or whatever, you're digging around chairs and tables and knocking over old ladies' kombucha and it's like, it's a really uncomfortable feeling.
I can assure you that nobody thinks you look stupid.
Like when you see a blind guy having a hard time, I think most people's instinct is to help out if for no other reason than they can like go on social media and talk about how cool they are.
Like if you can get me out of the situation, I'll be your dopamine rush for the night.
That's fine.
All right.
So that's a serious question.
For the listeners, if they see a blind person out there when in doubt, offer help.
Like blind people don't get irritated.
Or do you sometimes get pissed off?
Like, no, I got this pal.
Thanks very much.
Well, what I've seen is that, is that they want to be asked, like, do you need help?
Not like grab their arm and say, here, go this way.
You know, it's more, hey, can I help you?
And then if you say it that way, then they'll say, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
Come with me to my racist band.
I'd like to show you something.
You look like you're in a jam.
Can I help you out?
Only if you're white.
Can I help you?
Hitler.
Hitler.
But no, Sam is right.
You know, a lot of blind people are really touchy about things like that.
But usually, if you just say, hey, you need some help, you know, I've had situations where I'm at a busy street and someone will just come up and grab my arm and try to pull me across the street without saying anything.
And I'm like, dude.
Yeah, that's not good.
Not cool.
But, you know, if someone wants to help, I'll let them help.
You know, if it makes them feel like they're doing something good, what the hell?
Help me out.
And if they're black, you can probably press assault charges, right?
Even if they're just trying to help you.
Okay.
Unlawful touching.
Yeah.
I was waiting for this story.
Oh, you brought the BQ.
So, one of my first experiences, well, traveling while blind, I forgot what I was doing, but I got off at the Camden Greyhound station.
Oh, yeah.
Camden, New Jersey?
Yeah.
I'm tapping around, and I hear this guy.
He's like, hey, man, hey man, you want this?
You want this?
I'm like, I probably should have said no, but I said, what is it?
And he's like, hey, man, it's a taco.
I'm like, what?
A taco?
Crack, sure, but a taco is just weird.
Anyways, but yeah.
Taco.
I thought that I thought.
A taco.
Yeah, I thought that story was going to go somewhere weird, but no, it's just Rando's offering people taco.
Did you take the taco, eat it, and not get sick?
Yeah.
No, that was good.
That was good.
Soul taco.
It's fine.
All right.
We have a lot of serious questions about parenting and how you navigate that stuff, but even more serious one is, how do we know you're not lying to us about being blind?
Is this awesome?
You tell me what I have to gain, and we'll consider it.
This would be a pretty deep cover disguise.
Where do you stand on the Helen Keller question, I guess?
Okay.
I was breadpilled on that question before anything because I've known deafblind people and it's physically impossible to, you know, so she's a fraud.
She's not my sister.
Whatever.
She's, yeah.
It was all Annie Sullivan.
Good man.
Yeah, for the listener who's asking what the hell we're talking about, TDS.
I don't know if they did a whole, they did at least one show on Helen Keller and how that was a total fraud and she had gamblers.
What you think about it?
I mean, there's no way.
There's no way.
Yep.
I believe it.
Ludicrous.
Art contrarian there.
I have a question.
Sure.
I've been thinking about your eyes since you brought them up saying you don't wear sunglasses.
I assume you can still move your eyes.
Just because your optic nerve is shot doesn't mean you don't have muscular control, right?
Like you can feel them.
Obviously, you can't.
Yeah, a lot of people mistake me as being able to see because I try my best to look at people when I talk to them.
A lot of blind people just kind of look off into the distance or whatever, but I do have, I forget what it's called, nystagmus or something.
It's when your eyes, it's when your eyes can't focus, so they sort of bounce around a little bit.
Because I can't really, I can't focus on anything.
I can just look at the direction of the sound of people talking.
And so it just kind of may look funny, sort of, but yeah.
Not the biggest problem.
So is your condition genetic?
Is your wife's condition genetic?
And how did that factor?
Did you think about it before having kids have a sit-down discussion?
Or did you just go for it?
You know, and if the kids are blind, so be it.
No one really knows about my condition as far as whether or not it is inheritable.
All right, so we can blame the Jews for it.
Exactly.
But the thing is.
Your parents can see?
What's that?
Your parents can see?
They can.
And my two older kids are past the age in which I started losing vision.
So that gives me some hope that it's not.
But my wife's condition was genetic.
And with my first kid, It was a retina cancer that was genetic.
And so, you know, when my son turned a month old, you know, we had to, you know, take the bus 11 hours one way once a month to do chemotherapy for a year.
Wow.
And like, this is, we had some help, but like, we were pretty much on our own.
We didn't, you know, we didn't, we considered it, but it was never a deal breaker.
We just, we just had to get it done.
I mean, we did.
I mean, what other choice was there?
Yeah.
So, but he has some scarring in his eye from the lasers, but he can he'll probably be able to drive.
So it's not, and we knew what to look for.
He was diagnosed, you know, at two weeks old.
My wife wasn't diagnosed until she was three years old and she lost both of her eyes.
Oh, my.
And so, so, I mean, it's very treatable if you know what to look for.
And so we did.
And, all right.
So, kids, mom and dad are blind.
Kids can see.
How start, let's start with the basics.
I mean, when you have the baby and you're changing diapers, you literally just feel your way forward, use all your other senses.
How does that go, at least when they're babies and caring for them?
Well, changing diapers, you just be way thorough, almost to the point of if it's an explosion, you just straight to the bathtub.
You know, I've been there and I can see, bro.
That's not fun.
But yeah, you just have to be extra vigilant and just double check and go over things until you're satisfied.
And it's not, and it wasn't even that hard.
I know people will think, like, geez, I can't, I can't even imagine walking to the bathroom being blind, let alone chasing around a toddler.
But it's not making bottles in the middle of the night, that stuff.
Yeah.
But, I mean, we, as people, have an astonishing ability to adapt.
And, um, and of course, all of your other senses become super senses like daredevil.
Exactly.
And that is totally true.
Like, that'll make it stronger.
You're capable of much more than what you think.
And you prove that.
So far, I have been hit by a motorcycle, but I'm still alive.
Oh, man.
And you can, and can you, in fact, smell black people?
Yes.
I'm joking, but I'm not joking.
Like, can you tell the race of somebody based on the scent that they're getting off?
I mean, you can sometimes, but I played sports with a lot of different people, and that's when you can really tell because the black smell of friggin' funk is not a myth.
That's real.
But it's, you know, it's not as easy if you're just standing next to somebody.
And I feel like you could blindfold me, and I could even be semi-accurate, especially if it came to like Pajites.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I could smell Pajites away.
If you put me in a, if you put me in an Uber or a cab, it's easy because it's just, it permeates you.
And you know that that's not a white dude up there.
There's something else up there.
Yep.
Before I knew whether you were blind from birth or went blind, I was thinking of JO's double platinum, gay, you know, gay guys who literally had no female contact.
I was going to say that you were like, you know, double platinum pure white if you never had to see another minority.
Like, yeah, I'm unattainable.
I saw a black person today.
They ruined.
Doesn't have that problem anymore.
I did see my first black today in probably three weeks.
It was terrible.
Sorry.
Condolences.
Well done.
Good stuff, man.
Do you, what do you like to do in your spare time other than audiobooks and podcasts?
Obviously, what gives you pleasure in the sensory world?
Going to the park, taking the kids.
What do you do with the kids for fun?
We go on a lot of walks.
They're basically family hate hikes.
I mean, we'll go out on a Saturday and just walk around the city like 10 miles.
We'll pack those backpacks that have the water, the water bottle built into it.
So we'll just stand all day.
We'll stop and have snacks.
The kids, we'll make a stop at a park.
They can run around.
You've got your seeing eye kids with you.
Exactly.
Yeah.
But they're not as helpful as you think they would be.
They want to do their own thing.
Well, I mean, how would you act if you had blind parents?
You would probably be all over the place.
You'd raise them like a pack of gypsies.
They can go rob people.
But, you know, I just like being with the family, you know, powerlifting, you know, being outside.
So.
Do you catch them trying to get away with things when you're not looking?
Yeah.
They try to take advantage of it.
They do.
They do.
And, you know, I try not to get mad because I would do the exact same thing.
But it is, it's frustrating on a different level because it's sort of, it's a, you know, a violation of trust, right?
Yeah.
I don't care if you're, you know, you're getting to your teenage years, you're going to be an ass.
That's fine.
But like, have, you know, I need you to have the respect, you know, to not try to get away with anything and just because of that, you know?
And they learn quick too.
Like, my little toddler will do something wrong and they'll just go in the corner and stand and be quiet.
And I'm like, I'm squatting, walking around the living room.
Where are you, you little bastard?
But when we go out, we put bells on their shoes.
Okay.
So we know where they are.
Oh, man.
Having a toddler with that challenge is blowing my mind.
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, is that you have to babyproof your house on steroids.
I mean, there's gates everywhere.
It's like the DMZ.
You know, nothing.
Oh, yeah, I can imagine.
Nothing dangerous within climbing distance.
Doors locked, chained, chained up, no getting out the front door.
You just have to be extra careful.
And we've had no knock on wood anywhere, but no accidents.
Nothing major at all.
Well done.
Yeah.
And I remember the question that you asked us by email when we first met virtually was about whether we would let our kids go over to play at your house.
And we joked that we wanted to make sure you were extra racist before doing so.
Take care of that.
But have you had that in your lives where parents are reluctant to let their kids come over?
Or do your kids have a harder time making friends?
I guess probably not because of mom and dad, but no, they don't really.
And, you know, we don't have kids over anyways until we've known someone for a while.
And if someone was apprehensive about it, you know, I totally understand because even me now, I would be the same way sending my kids to a blind person's house because a lot of blind people aren't as vigilant as we are.
I see what you did there.
Yeah.
I have no blind loyalty when it comes to that stuff.
So if you're an unobservant blind person, my kids aren't going to go into your house without me.
I'd want to come check it out.
I would.
But like.
Well, maybe children of a certain age, too.
Yeah.
I'll tell you what I'm kind of tripping thinking about is my place is so like meticulously decorated because that's how my wife rolls.
But I'm guessing that, you know, like a lot of visual effects of everyday surroundings and light don't really matter to you guys.
I'd really like to see where you live.
Yeah, it's ashes or one, you know?
I mean, it's probably very Soviet looking, honestly.
Utilitarian, right?
Utilitarian.
But the thing is, I still visualize everything because I saw for the first 21 years of my life.
So I still like I still visualize everything just automatically.
And, you know, there's things that I would like to have, you know, portraits, whatever, little decorations is fine.
But it's not a top priority.
You know, so maybe when we work with teaching things to your kids when they are very young because my little boy, you know, he's not even a year old yet, but I'm constantly doing like, this is red, this is green, this is yellow, this is blue, letters, numbers.
Well, I don't know if I mentioned this, but we also homeschool our kids too.
And let's say we can get books for kids that have Braille and print, and the Braille describes what's on the page.
So we can read in Braille, like, hey, look at this red ball.
Look at the books being drug.
Okay.
And so it tells us.
And so we've, you know, we've taught all our kids how, well, not all our kids, but the kids that are old enough, we taught them how to read their colors.
I mean, there's a lot of adaptable and accessible things out there that you can do to teach your kids like that.
So we haven't, none of our kids have been delayed.
So, you know, thankful for that.
Do you talk to them about our issues?
Are you racially aware with them?
I know, I point out things ages.
Yeah.
You know, the teenagers, you know, early to mid-teenagers I have.
You know, when they got to be eight or nine, you know, I'd point things out.
You know, I'm not, you know, I didn't line them up and, you know, recite doctrine to them.
But, you know, you just point things out here and there.
You know, you know, be aware of these kind of people because, you know, you don't know them and I like you.
And, you know, just very basic things like that because, you know, you got to be careful.
You know, you don't want to go too hard and have it backfire on you so you seem like a crazy person.
Right.
So, but it seems to be working so far.
You know, so they're a little bit too in love with anime, but that's all right.
I guess you're on the right track then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Do you, do you sit with, do you sit with them to watch movies and just go along with it?
How does the when they're doing visual stuff, how do you know?
I watch movies with them.
I don't really follow, I don't know.
My wife's really good at following movies, but we do have a descriptive on our thing, so it tells us what's going on if we choose to have it do that.
How does that work?
Is this like a menu on your TV or some TVs where you can like do descriptive video where they'll provide what's going on in between dialogue?
Like so-and-so gets hitting the balls or whatever.
Yeah, because especially like movies that don't have a lot of dialogue.
Like I can't imagine watching a John Wick movie without like something.
There's not a lot of talking in those movies.
It's just everyone killing each other.
Yeah.
And yeah, movies, yeah, that's not a really big thing in the house.
Like the kids will watch their Paw Patrol or whatever.
And that's fine.
But the other kids, they don't really watch TV.
They're all about the memes.
YouTube, you know, PewDiePie.
My wife wanted to know if you swayed back and forth like Stevie Wonder when you listened to music.
I've never heard that question before.
No, I do not.
You could, yeah.
And I don't even, I think that's a rhythm thing.
I don't know.
But I knew kids in school who would just do that just sitting down for no reason.
And I still not really sure why.
Right.
Well, they do that.
I've had this conversation with a blind person before.
And they were saying that like you aren't sitting as still as you think you are, like sighted person.
You're not sitting as still as you think you are.
And you fidget and move.
And like, so do we.
And we just kind of do it differently because we don't know what normal looking is.
You know, like while I'm talking right now, I'm making all these hand gestures and my head is moving like this and like that.
And people who were born profoundly blind don't know what any of that looks like.
So it just their own kind of thing manifests in its own way.
And maybe I was able to see for long enough.
I didn't pick up those habits, I guess.
But I guess if I think about it, I do sort of, you know, I guess I don't sit perfectly still, you know, but I'm not sure.
How do you document your kids' milestones and growing up?
It's maybe an absolutely moronic question.
Do you take pictures of them so you have them and you can share maybe with your parents or something?
Or what do you do?
Yeah, we took pictures just by ourselves.
You know, we just made sure we had the right range and just took pictures.
And most of the time it worked out all right.
When the kids get older, we just let them take pictures of the others or if we'll have the occasional person over, they'll take pictures.
So yeah, we have plenty of milestones documented.
And we do a lot of voice clips of the kids.
So it's fun to go back and go back a few years and be like, you sound like a baby.
So we do a lot of that.
Yeah, it was funny.
We were on walkie talkies with our oldest son the other day.
And when you're in person with somebody talking back and forth, you don't think about how their voice is.
But when you, sometimes on the phone or on a walkie, we realize just how young he still sounded.
And it was kind of touching.
You know, it was good.
We still got time before his voice changes and he enters young adulthood.
And just a little auditory reminder to treasure them while they're young.
Yeah, it's hard to notice as time goes by naturally.
But, you know, right now, my oldest sounds like, you know, a young man.
And I went back two years to recording.
He sounds like he's eight years old.
It's amazing how quick the chance happens when you go back and look.
But when you're going through it, it's just you don't.
It's hard to notice.
Yep, absolutely.
Mr. Producer, I guess, knows a blind guy himself.
And we know that there's a bit of a blind community.
So there is a chance that you've met this guy and may recognize him by his voice.
Excuse me.
Not sure we're in the right place.
We're looking for Clayton Bigsby.
Well, look no further, fella, you family.
Clayton Bigsby, the author?
What, you don't think I can write them books?
Just because I'm blind, don't lean them down.
How could this have happened?
A black white supremacist.
Yeah, we went to school together.
And then he divorces his wife for being, when he finds out, he divorces his wife for being an end lover.
It's funny.
Yeah, I also wonder about some of the day-to-day.
So I have to assume that it's just easier to live in a city as opposed to suburbs or somewhere with land, like just having walking proximity to stuff.
And I lived in a lot of cities, and contrary to what some people think, especially if you're in a white part of that city, people are super helpful about this kind of thing.
What do you think about urban living versus anything else?
Well, you're right.
Unfortunately, we're sort of confined to a medium-sized city at least.
You know, we've lived in five or six different states.
And it varies.
It varies.
And, you know, demographics is an issue from this perspective.
If you think multicultural is bad now, and it is, being blind and walking through a place like Miami when you're by yourself and you have to ask directions and no one speaks English, you don't, it's a helpless feeling, you know, because there's cars and trains whistling past you and people just like, you know, gabble at you.
Another reason to oppose our Tower of Babel.
Think of the blind Native Americans who can't understand the gobbledygook.
Yeah.
You know, but I, you know, I grew up in a nice, well, my grandparents lived in a nice white suburb.
And I lived in a, right next door in a not white, nice suburb.
And obviously the difference was night and day.
Loved going to my grandparents' house.
I hated being at my house.
I can say this.
I lived in Utah, and that was probably the best place, obviously.
Just being objective, friendly people.
You could ask anybody, anything, and 99% of the time, they wouldn't be a weirdo.
It's just some nice Mormon person who's willing to help.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, and I think it's a hallmark of our people is that we take care of each other, including somebody who has some sort of problem like this.
You know, you hear stories about like an Indian, feather Indian.
You know, if they had a child with something wrong with it, they just leave it out in the wild to die.
You know, now, now, I know maybe we'd even have some people on our side that have this very like stark view of life and it's the strict survival, yeah, yeah, survival of the fittest and all that.
But I think that's what's something that makes us white is that we do take care of people and we do help each other.
Yeah, I don't think Uncle would have guessed you or your wife.
No, right?
Yeah, that's not our values at all.
No, actually, there's a whole passage about man.
I'll see if I can get it for the second hour.
There's a whole passage of like Nazi policies toward the inferno or whatever.
Yeah.
And it specifically talks about great contributions by the blind throughout history.
Basically.
Sure, because just like you were saying, Jo, oh, so you don't have sight, so you have these other superhuman abilities.
It is kind of true in a way.
You know, somebody who is blind or deaf or anything, they, you know, they are often more sensitive, more thoughtful, more patient, you know, because they're kind of dealt this hand.
Yeah.
Yeah, this third Reich was definitely not killing blind people.
And I've had this discussion with the people.
Wait, can I say that?
Yeah, the Reich should have gotten all the blind people to go around and be the official nose testers.
We got work for you, pal.
Once you could tell like Jews by touch, like there's a certain sort of like Zen monk thing there.
It's like the scene with Doogie Hauser and Starship Troopers, where like he touches the alien bug and he's like, it's okay.
It sounds like a program for the blind.
Yeah, Jews by touch.
Find your nearest.
Jews smell bad to me.
I don't know what you get.
Matzah balls and gefilta fish.
Yeah.
I wanted to hop in with a question from our number one fan, first fan of Full House, Durandel, sort of rolling.
And he says, Coach, could you please ask the gentleman how beat blind he's navigated the differences in the races and noticing?
So we know that you notice some and how do you perceive them?
So we touched a little bit on that.
But yeah, just going forward in your daily life, racial realities.
Well, my experience, I think, puts to bed that the canard that race is only skin color.
Right.
You know, obviously can't see skin color, but the behavior is just obvious, even for a blind person.
So you're not the only blind guy in our thing.
I know two others.
They're like, wow.
Base.
Got to hook you up.
You do.
Sweet.
Or if you want us to just send a vetted racist person to your house to hang out, we can make that happen too.
Yeah.
Drop me a text.
But I mean, I do have to thank my grandfather, my dad, you know, just basically breaking it down.
You know, these people aren't like you to be careful.
And when you're traveling alone, you know, through places you don't know, you know, if you're not racially aware, you are irresponsible in the extreme.
Which is which is funny.
I think it's unsafe for a sighted white person to walk around some black neighborhood at two in the morning.
Yeah.
This guy's getting tacos in his hand, but that's whether, whether you have you ever been mugged or I don't mean to derail, but have you been mugged or been assaulted as a result of your sort of a big guy or what?
Or you for them.
I was when I was a kid, and this didn't have anything to do with me being blind, I don't think.
I was riding my bike and this black has stopped me.
So you call me the N-ward?
And we hear this all the time, right?
You call me an N-word.
And I didn't.
I did not.
And he punched me or whatever.
But that was like not blind-related, I don't think.
But I haven't had any issues.
Just the weird situations that make me nervous.
You got a square, you got a dollar.
I'm trying to get some food.
You got to be diplomatic because you don't want to piss them off because you are, as much as I hate to say it, you are vulnerable.
So you just have to be super aware when you're out traveling.
Makes sense.
Quick, we're coming up on one hour here, so we're going to start the approach to break.
But another question in this one, my wife and I have been talking about this, and she wanted to be on the show because she found it fascinating.
And she'll come on at some point, but she's taking care of the kiddies right now.
But she asked about, frankly, sexuality and men being very visual when it comes to attraction and sex.
And without getting too racy or too personal, what is it like behind closed doors with wifey?
Like, if there's a blind convention somewhere, someone's getting pregnant.
Wow.
It's just, I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's a lot of blind people lack their full spectrum of sensory stimulation, but we are very touchy people.
Well, they all look the same in the dark anyway.
They don't feel the same in the dark.
Well, no, I get it because that's a huge icebreaker, you know, like that you sort of have to touch someone or be very physically close to them.
Yeah.
In certain ways.
You got a free groping pass, basically.
It's almost like how much touching goes on just for a blind person to hand something to another blind person.
Coach, you say, hand me a beer.
We both look.
There's a clean handoff.
And B D remembers this from when he was sighted.
But imagine it's even you and someone you know well in pitch black try and hand things back and forth between each other.
I mean, you just tap the bottle with your fingernail, you know, to get the and if you if you bump knuckles, no homo, right?
We understand, you know, I'm just trying to get a beer.
But I do have a touching story that the female listeners might think is tender.
A little while after my wife and I got together, she's like, do you want to know what I look look like?
And, you know, she grabbed my hand and she like made me touch her face, her eyes, her nose, her ears.
To me, that was a touching.
Absolutely.
And then, did you?
And then did you take do the guy thing and be like, I've got something else for you.
Like, here, let me introduce you to my little friend.
Don't panic.
It won't bite.
Especially, maybe this is cutting too close to the bone.
Maybe I'm being like petty and childish, but especially having been previously sighted, part of me would really be interested to like send a picture of my girlfriend, wife to be whatever to one of my sighted buddies and be like, give it to me straight, doc.
One to ten scale.
Oh, I asked someone.
Just broke up.
Do they have the hot crazy spectrum?
Yeah, they do.
I think that transcends vision.
Yeah, it's got nothing to do with hearing.
And, you know, she was in good shape.
So I figured that was a good start.
You know, I can't see her face, so who cares?
Did she know you were coming on?
And was she concerned about it?
Or is she cool with it?
She's fine.
No, she was good with it.
You know, I'm like I said, I'm pretty isolated.
So I haven't really, you know, don't really talk to anybody.
Don't really go out with anybody.
So, you know, she's, she'll ask me a question about the current event.
I'll just go off.
He's like, damn, I just asked.
Because I either yell at people on Twitter or she asked me a question about Israel and it's over.
It's like, I just asked the question.
Why are you turning the oven on?
Yeah, I mean, I joked about sending racists over to your house to hang out, but, you know, that makes me a little bit sad that you're to a certain extent socially isolated.
Socialization after the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No pressure.
And I, you know, I do help out, you know, financially with different people and different things.
So I wanted, you know, I find ways to be involved.
You know, it's kind of busy when you have a house full of kids and a wife, but it would be nice to know people, you know.
All right.
Good stuff, man.
Well, bless you, your wife, and your kids.
Wanted to mention big thanks to Mr. Producer for helping us out here.
And as always.
And to you, B.D., since you were kind enough to come on, we are turning the DJ booth over to you.
And this will bring full circle my somewhat cryptic introductions of the birth panel, which just like JO dropped some cryptic lyrics last week that people, yeah, people, if people, for the listeners who didn't get it, Jo would dropped some, was it They Might Be Giants little birdhouse?
Yeah, Birdhouse in the Soul.
Yeah, that was it.
That was obscure.
But go ahead, BD.
Take us away with your song of choice.
Enjoy your music, everyone, by the country legend and probably super racist Wayland Jennings.
Yeah.
I'm a white boy.
Good choice.
From 1977.
Enjoy, family.
Some folks call me Rambling Man and do a lot of thumbing and kicking cans.
And it wouldn't do an ounce of good to call my name.
Cause daddy's name wasn't where they would go.
And I wasn't born and raised in no ghetto, did the white boy, looking for a place to do my thing.
Well, I'm out to find you with a woman in a line of work that don't take no diploma.
I ain't got much to lose, but got a lot to gain.
Here's some might call me a good time fella.
I ain't blackin'.
I ain't a yellow digital white boy looking for a place to do my thing.
I don't want no handout living and don't want to party anything they're giving.
I'm proud and white and I got a song to sing.
Well, I've said a few things and I'll admit it.
If you want to get ahead, you got a hump and giddy.
I'm a white boy looking for a place to do my thing.
A small town boy been around a little I like guitars and I like a fiddle.
And that's the kind of soul it takes to fan my flame.
Well, I'm a blue-eyed Billy, kind of frail and ruddy, so I'll have to work to be somebody.
I'm a white boy, looking for a place to do my thing.
I don't want no hand-out living, and don't want to party anything they're giving.
I'm proud and white, and I got a song to sing.
Well, I've said a few things, and I'll admit it.
If you want to get ahead, you got a hump and giddy.
I'm a white boy, looking for a place to do my thing.