Don LeMarco, Rolo, and Laura from the "Crypto Mindset" course analyze Wall Street's crypto surge, advising smaller investors to dollar-cost average on Kraken while larger portfolios focus on Bitcoin and Ethereum ahead of BlackRock's staked ETF. They warn against volatile meme coins, citing a $50 million CowSwap loss, and promote Rumble Wallet for fee-free storage and free speech. Emphasizing AI adaptation by 2030 and CIA-endorsed wallet safety tiers, they conclude that disciplined risk management and diversification remain essential for surviving market volatility and avoiding lifestyle inflation traps. [Automatically generated summary]
Today we have Crypto Bows in the House, Don LeMarco.
Charlie and Miguel, welcome back.
I know who you are.
Damon Art.
Please tell me who you are.
Hey, my name is Miguel from Dollar Cost Crypto.
I've been in Crypto.
And we are live.
Welcome back, guys, to the show, Fresh and Fit.
Today we have Crypto Bows in the House.
Got a little playback there.
We good to go?
Yep.
Okay.
Yeah, I've been in crypto since 2016.
Started the Crypto Mindset course in 2020.
We've helped onboard over like 19,000 people into the crypto space.
And we are the Red Pill crypto gurus of the Red Pill space.
Let's go.
Shout out to Rolo.
Shout out to Laura.
Shout out to everybody, man.
We've helped everybody out in the space.
And we're going to buy the dip.
We're here, man.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm Charlie.
And yeah, my name's Charlie.
I run a YouTube channel called Cultivate Crypto.
Also co-founder of the Crypto Mindset course with Miguel back in 2020.
And yeah, it's been interesting the type of people we kind of have had exposure to through the course and everything.
Just, what was it, on Wednesday, I had the founder of Aerodrome, which is what do you call it, like a Dexon base that's doing really well, which is built by Coinbase, right?
He's a co-founder of Aerodrome, and he's a CEO of Dromos Labs, which helps build out Aerodrome.
With this one?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, I bought some of this, bro.
Good, good.
No, it's a good coin.
Yo, yo.
So go fresh.
Go watch the interview I did with him on Wednesday on my channel.
It was so good.
But he's some sauce right there.
Yeah, no, but basically he back in 2020, something like that.
Or maybe he's even 2019.
He was first getting into crypto.
He talked to people that had been taking our course and he was like, well, what should I buy?
And one of the things we told him to buy at the time was Synthetics.
It had done a really good run-up.
At the time, he made some money on it.
And interestingly enough, I think Synthetics may have even inspired him to kind of go towards that project a little bit.
We talked a lot about it in the podcast.
I would recommend to go watch it.
It's one of those things where I think even a lot of people in crypto don't know how crazy that's going to get.
He's going to go and have a talk in Ethereum conference in Europe next month.
Oh, dope.
And he said basically they're going to take on Uniswap, which is the largest DEX pretty much in the world on Ethereum because Aerodrome's going over to Ethereum layer one.
So yeah, like we've had like hedge funds come into the crypto mindset course and basically listen in, try to see if they get any other research they didn't find.
We have people who are brand new to crypto that don't know anything.
Their family wants to get them used to it.
So we've had a lot of experience with various different types of students.
It's just interesting to hear kind of where their paths end up at the end of the day.
We really enjoy, you know, whatever the price of Bitcoin is, basically telling people about it because it's one of those things when price is down, that's when people really need to hear and know about crypto, what it's going, where it's going, all that stuff.
But people don't want to accept the fact until it hits a new all-time high.
And it's like girls.
They invest like girls.
They want to fuck the winner.
But when it's already winning already, you have to.
It's too late.
It's too late.
Yeah, it's too late.
Or you're going to get rinsed.
I mean, we had got like when Bitcoin hit like 120,000, there was guys on YouTube going all in into like Bitcoin, Ethereum, or going all in.
We're like, why weren't they buying at 15?
Like the last time we did a mega course was back in basically quarter four of 2022.
Your guys were buying Ethereum under $1,000 and we were buying Bitcoin under $20,000.
By the way, I saw one the other day.
He bought a house as well from the profits.
So W, Charlie Miguel.
So I made a tweet today after a phone call I had with somebody.
I'm looking at crypto trading only this year.
And right now the market is in a bit of a disarray.
It's a bit lower than it should be.
What should people do now to move forward in the right direction?
Should they put money down now?
Should they wait?
Should they buy crypto now?
What should they do?
I think this goes towards the dollar cost crypto.
Expert.
If I only knew a person.
Because dollar cost averaging is definitely two scenarios.
Let's take a 50K and then 5K.
Okay.
So let's just say, so like, let's just do the 5K scenario for a second and then we will do the 50K scenario because it is a little different.
When you got more firepower, you can go.
When you don't have as much money, time is your friend, right?
Because, you know, a guy that has $5,000 might get eventually just like, fuck it, I'm going to throw it all in.
They got no more money, but it doesn't matter right now because in the next year, we have incredible prices on both Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, Aerodrome, other coins that we like.
So you have time to kind of DCA dollar cost in and you're getting a really good average price.
So by 27, by like the same time in 27, you're going to be in profit on all those coins.
Like it's usually, you know, you can't say that in crypto very often where you can like, I could almost like 99% chance to almost a guarantee, but you can't really, but like an almost guarantee a year from now, you're going to, we're going to be in more profit than we are right now, which is really good.
Real quick, guys, gear chats and questions in.
I know you guys want to ask questions because this is very important.
And guys, AI is coming so fast to this, I want to say workforce and economy.
If you're not ready by now, guys, by 2030, we're going to be pretty much in that zone where nothing's going to be focused on humans, more focused on AI.
Correct.
And that's going to be very scary.
Yeah.
One thing with both of our platforms that we're highly encouraging is people find some sort of side hustle or way to generate income, more income through AI.
So we have in the crypto mindset course, we have like 20 webinars and two or three of those are dedicated to AI simply because we think if somebody, if every if people aren't paying attention to it now, right?
It's not only going to come in like the regular world and displace people at work, people can use that to their advantage now, right?
Make the AI that's going to replace you or like make the AI agent that's going to replace you and then basically use that to like get up in the company.
That's one way to do it.
Right.
But even in crypto, what we saw in investment banking in the 90s was you used to have to call a broker and know a guy if you wanted to buy stocks on Wall Street and say, hey, how much do I want to buy for what?
And he put in the order, all that kind of stuff, right?
Then by 2010 or even before 2008, when the crash happened, you had low latency trading where all the Wall Street companies were basically putting their servers as close to the center of Manhattan as possible so they could be as close to the trading so they could do that crazy algorithmic trading.
And we're going to go through that.
And that only happened over, what, 20, 30 year period.
We're going to have that same thing happen to crypto.
Slightly different because it's decentralized and not centralized.
So that does change some aspect to it.
But you're going to see probably over the next 10 to 15 years, basically that same process.
So going almost twice as fast.
Well, they're saying that the recession is happening now is going to be worse than 2008.
Also, government regulations.
Are you guys care about that with crypto?
Is that like a concern?
It's actually getting way better.
It's getting better.
It's getting better.
Yeah.
Thanks to Trump.
Yeah, things are.
We have a pro-crypto government, right?
Yeah.
But, you know, we have the, I believe the SEC and the FTC basically joined together and said, hey, we're no longer going to have a gang warfare over because they're basically fighting with each other to have control over a crypto who's going to regulate it.
So it says, all right, we're going to regulate it together.
But whenever we do anything, we're both going to agree on it.
So now it's kind of like we've got, now it's more of a middle ground because it's been a big fight over like, is crypto a commodity versus a security?
And now it's kind of like, it's, it's kind of both really in a weird way.
So it's like, it's kind of melding together.
But Walsh is buying a lot of crypto, aren't they?
A lot.
A lot.
A ton.
So like, just to go back, just go back to that earlier question about the 5K guy.
So the, like, as basically what I'm recommending to our guys, let's just say the guy who's got 5,000 right now, he's probably going to put $1,000 a month, right?
What I would tell somebody is like, buy $300,000 to $400 of crypto right now.
Put the other $600 into USDC, which is basically cash, a coin on Coinbase called it's a dollar coin, basically, right?
Because over the next few months, as the price is like, well, we're going to pump up a little bit and then go down, that down period is going to be the low for the year.
That's where you smash in and you put in that extra USDC.
And then that's where you put those extra $5,000 in.
Because it's kind of like you can buy a thousand bucks and then take a thousand of that $5,000 in.
And then as it gets lower, then you've saved up a little bit of USDC on chain because what happens is when prices really drop fast, Coinbase won't work.
But you can use that USDC to buy on Ethereum and it won't ever shut off.
So this is how I was able to get like, you know, $700, $800 Ethereum.
Coinbase was like short-circuiting.
It was at the time, crypto.com, Gemini, it doesn't matter any Binance, like magically our servers are down.
So you basically miss the opportunity.
But on Uniswap or on CowSwap or any of these exchanges, I got Ethereum that cheap.
You can buy Bitcoin as well if you wanted to.
Bitcoin's a little stranger one because it's mostly just bought in exchanges, but you can.
One thing we always recommend, guys, is they could set limit orders on Kraken.
The Kraken ones go through.
Really?
Yeah, they've gone through every single time.
And Kraken's gone through some crazy changes over the last couple of months.
They have now become, they have a national charter bank through the state of Wyoming.
And they actually now are the only crypto company to have access to the Federal Reserve liquidity similar to banks.
And every bank, like the Kansas City branch of the Fed, plus maybe one other one, they dissented heavily because there's only seven.
And they were just like, yeah, we don't think we should have that because crypto would be like a systemic risk or some bullshit, right?
That they want to say in there.
But so Kraken's in there now.
Coinbase is probably going to come in sometime down the line.
Crypto.com too.
Crypto.com might have a chance too.
So are you seeing from your experience investment with Kraken to use?
Yes.
Especially.
Yeah, especially for like so many different types of people.
It's like super secure.
It's good everywhere in the world pretty much.
Like it has a lot of good regulatory clarity in Europe.
It has you can use it for somebody who's only putting in a thousand to somebody who's putting in multi-millions.
Like it works for pretty much most people.
But the most simplistic one for people is Coinbase.
Yeah.
But like Kraken, they ask for a little more verification.
It takes a longer time to set up, but it's better.
But Coinbase is like the meat and potatoes.
It works really well.
It's really simple.
If someone just wants to buy Bitcoin today, go on Cash App.
You can just buy Bitcoin there.
Easy.
Done.
It's easy.
It's really easy.
The only problem with Crash App sometimes is they kind of limit you on how much you can buy.
Crash App is funny.
Yeah.
Crash App.
The Crash App, right?
But to talk about the guy who requests 50,000, that's a different position because that's that's got a lot of money.
If a person's got 50 grand, they also are probably making a little bit more.
That's a person that probably can buy about 3,000, 4,000 or 5,000 a month, right?
That's a weird one where, like, same thing.
I'd probably say like half of what they make a month, they could buy Bitcoin, Ethereum right now.
I'd only focus Bitcoin, Ethereum, maybe some Solana, right?
And as here's what, here's what's interesting about it because Bitcoin is going to fall below a trillion dollar market cap, right?
It's going to either hit a trillion or just slightly below it.
As long as we don't get the stock market imploding, like if we get AI bubble popping and it just all goes to shit, then we can get some really good S prices.
What's the next mixed event you think could happen to trigger the market to move?
Like, what's the biggest thing happening?
Let's say both.
Okay, you want to handle the upside?
Yeah, I think for the upside, yesterday, BlackRock came out with the staked Ethereum ETF, which they already had the regular spot Ethereum ETF, but this is the same thing, but staked.
So basically, they're going to stake the Ethereum for everybody, and then they get a certain yield.
They give most of the yield back to the customer.
They take a little bit for themselves.
They make a lot of money doing that.
And that's better than the regular spot Ethereum ETF for most people simply because Wall Street's like, hey, I get to choose.
I have exposure to Ethereum.
I get exposure to Ethereum.
And I get like a few percent on top of that.
So of course they're going to go to the one that makes more, right?
And so that one is it better to stake on Ethereum or just buy it?
Just buy it.
Buy it.
Just buy it, right?
You always buy it.
Yeah, you don't need to worry about staking for most people.
You can stake through like Rocket Pool or Lido and those types of services for other people.
Can you tell me what stake means?
Yeah, because basically you lock up your Ethereum.
You say you're not going to take it out for a certain period of time, and then you get rewards because you're not going to sell it.
Three to four percent yield.
So it's a dividend payment, essentially, for not selling.
Oh, so it's like a high HSY.
Exactly.
That's why it's so important what Charlie's saying is there's 12 billion in the regular one.
There's going to be another 12 billion in the new one if not more.
Or if not more, because holy crap, I can like the Bitcoin ones didn't pay anything.
This one, I can hold Ethereum.
It's lower in market cap.
And on top of that, I get a dividend dividend.
And people love that dividend payment, especially right now.
Like a lot of the older customers are getting close to retirement age.
And all boomers are in retirement age.
They're all 62 and a half years old.
So they're looking for income.
There's boomers like with some serious money in crypto that are like, dude, I can just buy this on BlackRock.
I've got insurance on it.
I can borrow on it too for my brokerage.
And I get a dividend payment on it.
So questioner.
Let's say I'm an older person.
I have a bunch of money in crypto and the bank probably, if I'm not that savvy.
I've been told you can put into a certain account, stock account, make 8% on that money a year or more, if possible, live off of that.
You're saying if you could put in Ethereum, 34%, which isn't, it's half of that, basically.
But what's the security there?
So even what's happening right now is because right now, boomers are still in the, most of them are still are working, can work, but they've hit the point where they're able to withdraw from the 401ks now.
So a lot of them are still speculating.
There's like basically, I would say about 80% of boomers, they don't have enough money to retire.
They have money there, but not enough to like live off for the rest of their life.
So a lot of them are speculating.
So like, you know what's scary about that statement you just said?
Meme Coins, XRP, and Stable Strategies00:12:40
Right.
Not enough money to retire.
It's scary, dude.
Most people don't have that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And looking at a long-term play, like most people will never have that by conventional means.
Like you can't get that money by working a job.
You might get fired.
I know it is.
That's true.
So crypto is one of the best ways because you can actually multiply your money, do that multiple times, and have like a retirement plan in it.
Yeah.
Well, that's kind of the, I don't know what you want to call it, like the hidden like positive, I guess, that Ethereum didn't hit a new all-time high yet this cycle.
I mean, it technically did, but it didn't really break out, right?
And the reason why that's kind of a hidden gem to some extent, right, is because the fundamentals for Ethereum have only gotten better.
Think Tom Lee of Funstrat he created Bitmind, which basically is a digital asset treasury company for Ethereum.
They've bought, I can't even remember how many it's like at least four million.
They're up to going towards like 10, 20 billion.
So they're like 4 billion.
They're at like going to 10, 20 billion dollars worth of Ethereum under that.
And I think he's bought, they're getting towards 75% of the weight of whatever they want, however much they want to buy, basically.
But they're going hard for Ethereum.
And then they bought into, I think, $200 million worth in Mr. Beast's company.
And so then Mr. Beast is creating an app.
Marketing Beast, yes.
Yeah.
Mr. Beast is creating an app, basically a financial service app that basically will help to promote Ethereum, probably be able to stake it on there, right?
All sorts of different stuff.
You know who else is in that?
Chamath, two, three years ago, invested initially $45 million into it, too.
So Chamath is...
Who's that?
He's...
He's sort of a part of the apparatus, the PayPal Mafia sort of apparatus that's under Trump's cabinet.
So like the crypto czar, which is like David Sachs, they all have a podcast together called The All-In Podcast.
Chamoth, he mentioned it for me.
Yeah, but Chamoth's investment record is pretty terrible.
As like, he made a bunch of SPACs, which are just basically you can VC invest, but in like a stock form into these companies, and they've done really bad.
Like it's he's getting a lot of shit for it, but he made you know, he made a billion dollars off of this stuff.
But like basically, all of like that guy's friends and stuff are in like kind of Trump cabinet positions in terms of like, you know, they're in the government telling them like pushing crypto regulation.
These guys invested early in Solana.
So these guys have a ton of Solana.
They like Ethereum and they're now like all investing into this.
So like basically I think Solana and Ethereum are going to get pushed out by Mr. Beast.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
So we told guys before to buy gold and silver.
Obviously by crypto as well.
But what do you think matching up gold, silver and crypto side by side?
What's better and why, in your opinion?
Yeah.
So let's take historical returns on everything, right?
So if you look at the SP 500, just like as a whole, if you buy the SP 500 and then you basically take it against inflation, you're at a break even.
You're not making money.
You're not losing money.
You're basically at a break even.
And then I think with gold, it depends on when you're talking about, right?
Because same with silver.
It shot up before, but had been like kind of languishing for a very long time.
Whereas for Bitcoin, and you can include Ethereum in this for the most part, I think Bitcoin's average since its beginning has been 130% year-on-year increase.
Of course, three out of four years, it's going to do pretty well.
And then one out of four years, it's going to go down, which is 2026, basically, which is an opportunity, right?
And so if you look at that long-term, like over five, 10-year period, Bitcoin and Ethereum, just by buying and holding, are going to outpace every other traditional asset virtually guaranteed, unless for some reason they were to absolutely collapse or whatever, which everybody's been saying for the last 15 years.
And now Wall Street's basically heavily investing.
So what do you think is going to happen, right?
It's only going to expand pretty much.
And so just on returns, that's better.
And then Ethereum, if you do end up doing the staking because you end up getting into it and having a larger amount, then you get those dividends on top of that.
Right.
And so just purely based on what's going to make you the most money, if you're looking at a five, 10 year period, it's 100% going to be Bitcoin, Ethereum.
And then if you want to add Solana onto that mix, you can.
I would say Bitcoin, Ethereum are the only coins that you can say are going to be here for a very long time.
Solana is almost there.
I think it has another four-year cycle to go before it's like solidified in that position.
Excuse me, solidified in that position.
Subi, as an example, it's got an ETF that came out.
It actually had the first staking ETF even before Ethereum.
And so you could sell Wall Street is heavily focused on SUI, but they're not going to start buying that heavily until sometime next year, probably the second half.
What about Zcash?
Zcash, yeah, has a pretty good backing.
Their team started building a second wallet and stuff like that.
So that's done really, really well.
So it has like a core group of people behind it.
Anything that has like a even Cardano didn't do that well this cycle, but it has a core group of people behind it that trade it.
Cult following.
Yeah, basically.
XRP?
Yeah.
Yeah.
XRP has it, but the leadership basically deflates the positive aspect of that because that could pump way better than it.
If there's going to be a cycle for XRP to do good, it's going to be in this next one, these next four years, the 2020.
It's going to be the 29 cycle, basically, right?
Believe it or not, I know I'm not an XRP fan.
I'll actually buy it if it gets cheap enough.
Yeah.
Because it's going to make some money because some of the things that they're trying to do are these guard railings, these railings they've been trying to put in are finally going to start going in now.
So like this time it might actually do some run.
So I'll probably buy some, but it hasn't gone cheap enough for me to buy it.
So just for the audience here real quick, let's say I'm putting this into categories.
Should I focus more on stable coins or meme coins this cycle?
And why?
So stable coins are just to like hold your cash.
So like you can put money in stable coins, but the reason why you're holding it in stable coins is so you can deploy it in crypto later.
So it's a good way for you to like be like, okay, I'm not sure what I want to buy yet, but I'm going to start slowly DCA.
So it's a good kind of what pile of cash.
Like a watch, pretty much.
Yeah, but over one or if you hold it longer than, let's say, two or three years, then it starts melting, right?
So because like cash will get eaten by inflation, basically you want to buy also start appreciating a lot of money.
You're losing on that side.
So both ends.
You need cash is king when it's needed, but like you need to start deploying it as like these prices get lower.
And so when there's blood in the streets, you buy, right?
Like we've already bled quite a lot.
Like Bitcoin's down roughly 50% already.
Ethereum's down almost a little bit more, 60%, 70%.
What was the market reaction when it happened to people in crypto?
I saw some people doing some weird stuff.
Which parts?
When it went down so low.
Oh, so you had.
So you had some people, there's some people grifting that, like, I called the exact top.
I fucking told you.
And they didn't say shit.
There's a lot of accounts on YouTube or crypto Twitter that they post scenarios, like a different scenario every day, and then they delete all the old ones.
And they see, I told you guys, well, like, well, bro, you made like 14 different posts about different things that's going to happen.
Like, they do, there's a lot of that right there.
There also was kind of this, you know, there's kind of a grift about it.
I mean, obviously, like, you know, we took some profits.
You know, we told our guys to take some profits in quarter four.
We sold all our meme coins off.
Personally, I told our guys, so is Charlie, that I didn't sell any of my Bitcoin Ethereum.
I still, yeah, so I kept it because it was like, it doesn't matter.
Like it did, like, it's down like 50%, but I bought it all cheap.
I bought Ethereum at like $700, $800.
Before that, I bought it at $8.
I still had all my Ethereums in profit, right?
I bought the majority of my Bitcoin between $25,000.
Like, I bought $15,500 Bitcoin.
Yeah, so I'm up on it.
Yeah, you wait.
I'm liquid on it, right?
And the last time, too, like in early 25, it crashed to $1,400 on Ethereum.
It ran back up to $4,000.
We made money on it, right?
I just didn't sell it because I was like, I know where this is going.
I don't want to be out of position.
But I did sell a lot of my L1s, my L2s, a lot of my meme coins and stuff, Pepe, things.
I sold everything off into cash.
And we told our guys to sell like big call that I did in December, sell all your meme coins.
All into cash.
Go into cash right now.
And people are like, really?
Why?
I said, I'm holding these two meme coins, but they're like little, like, I'm talking about like a couple thousand bucks, you know, cheap stuff, nothing crazy, right?
And I sold all the other majors ones off, you know.
Well, what is the mindset you have to have to put money in there versus other places?
Because for example, let's say I'm struggling.
I bills to pay.
How do I get to the point where I can put money into crypto and feel comfortable about it?
So you got to get some wins, right?
So trying to get early wins definitely helps.
So, I was kind of telling you a little bit before the stream how I traded.
Um, after basically, I quit my corporate job, and then I had uh, before I started my YouTube channel.
Can you tell them what happened in the past you got into crypto?
Sure, right, sure.
That's actually a good story.
Yeah, so like, I'll kind of like make a too long didn't read version of it, like kind of a quick series of events.
So, like, um, the first time I bought any crypto was Ethereum at $90 back in May of 2017.
Good price now, huh?
Of course, as soon as I bought it, it went down to 70 though, and I was like, Yeah, whatever.
This thing's gonna go down, whatever.
Let me show it all out.
I knew it was gonna go down.
I was just like, whatever, you know, but then, but then, like, I just stopped paying attention to it for a couple of months.
I looked back at it, and it was $400 a coin, and I was like, that was crazy.
I only put a thousand in at the first two.
I put a thousand, it turned to $4,000.
I was like, yeah, and it was in a span of three months.
That win, I was in crypto the rest of my life.
Like, that's just not, it's just, I'm hooked.
Question: You didn't want to go buy like a nice car, a nice watch.
What made you say, you know what?
I'm going to just buckle down and because that year, um, I was basically uh entering the highest earning phase of my corporate career.
Yeah, um, I was top five salesperson within uh pretty much the largest Japanese recruitment company called Recruit Recruit Group.
And we were in, like, there's the Japanese version of it, which you know, helps just like native Japanese people get jobs.
And then we were the side Gaijin version, which is the foreigners, yeah, right, where we helped.
Who don't want you?
Well, where we help Japanese people who speak English get into uh international jobs or international people get into more Japanese company jobs so that way those companies can expand internationally.
Uh, there's a company called Team Viewer, which I hired their CEO.
Oh, Team Viewer, we used that, yeah, yeah, I heard their first Japanese CEO.
They built the whole office there, went to Frankfurt, you know, met them and everything.
Germany, yeah.
Um, I need to go over there, Charlie's got receipts, dogs.
I got receipts, yeah, but so like I was in the highest earning year, right?
I was doing really well that year, and um, I had a bonus uh after I had already had the Ethereum play hit, right?
I had a bonus in August of that year, it was about fifty thousand dollars, and I was just like this Ethereum thing's doing pretty good, you know, like it's doing pretty good.
Let's go!
So, you know, but put it all in, I didn't have any Bitcoin at the time, I wanted some Bitcoin, so I was like, okay, the risk versus the reward, right?
How'd you know?
Because I did a gamble, I didn't know it was like it was partially a gamble.
I mean, I at that point, I was like, this shit is awesome.
And the one thing I guess you get when you're brand new to crypto that it's kind of like blinders a little bit is like you think it's gonna last forever, right?
Oh, this train's never gonna end, baby, yeah, right.
So, how hot that year was you were talking about the 2017 year, 2017, yeah.
That was the hottest market I've ever been a part of.
It was good, anything you touched was gold, it was the hottest shit.
So, I saw the 2021, 20, no, when was it 23 or 20?
Well, you started when I saw the guys in Miami popping off, what year was that?
21, 21, I was like, okay, this is infinite money.
Yeah, you're spending one Bitcoin in a club to pop a bottle, yeah, you thought, dude, they're pingos to stay at their cribs, yeah, like for months.
I'm like, months, this is stupid money, yeah.
But they said, you know what, I bought some Bitcoin, I'm chilling.
Are you saying women are for sale?
Yes, I am.
Um, but here's the worst part: where are they now?
Yeah, gone, gone, disappeared, like Chipotle, bro.
Well, I'm not gonna lie, bro, like, even being here in Miami, it makes you want to just spend money, it really does.
Yeah, but the discipline in English, bro, it's really surreal.
But in crypto, it's like this, yeah, there's just there's so much upside to it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And so, then, after I like in Japan, in order to be able to do that, had to go to like a convenience store.
I think they only let me put like $8,000 or $10,000 in at a time.
So, I went to the convenience store like the whole week, and I was just like following money in Taking stuff out of the ATM, throwing it at the cashier, like, hey, let's get this in there, right?
Wow.
And that was in August of 20, August, September of 2017.
Escaping the Rat Race by 203000:03:40
We had about three or four months more of upside there.
So I made a really good bag and, you know, had a few small coins that hit like Verge is the funny one we talk about, where I hit like, it went from like half a penny to 30 cents.
It was fucking crazy.
Like in a month, 60.
It was crazy.
But like, so it was a good time, right?
But then that kind of opened my eyes to like, okay, what is possible?
I think you were talking about trading a little bit before the stream.
And one of the guys I was working with, part of the reason why I actually had a lot of conviction of continuing to go in around September of 2017, he said, based on the charts, right?
We're probably not going to go down all that much more after Jamie Dimon said Bitcoin's trash.
We're probably going to go up still after that.
So that also gave me conviction.
That also helped me want to learn technical analysis as deeply as I have because I'm like, man, this is like wizardry stuff.
Like if I can do this, if I can figure this out, even a smidge, right?
It's going to make me a lot better.
And so all of 2018, which was we have 2018, then we have 2022 when we came on your guys' stream at the $15,500 Bitcoin.
Then we have now, right?
Which is 2026.
So each of those years is very hard.
So I was like, okay, I'm just going to work.
I'm going to earn as much money as possible.
I'm just going to keep my head down.
And then it was about September of 2018.
I'm like, I'm going to, like, I wasn't sure if I was like going to start my YouTube at the same time I was working.
Yeah.
But then I talked to a bunch of people about it and they were like, you just got to go for it, bro.
And so then I quit my job.
And it took before I had regular income through YouTube and all that stuff.
It was about two years.
So that two years, you know, I was married.
I was still paying 80% of everything in a foreign country.
How old are you at the time?
Like 32, 33.
You're divorced, right?
Yeah.
Well, I divorced that girl because she basically.
Good job.
After a while, she was just like, you know, cleaned up on that division.
You were in the top.
She was like, you're the top Japanese company, bro.
And then you're going to go start your own business in crypto on YouTube.
Like, that's crazy, right?
So she was with it for a while, but then eventually I was like, hey, if you ain't with it, I'm sorry.
I got to go.
And Charlie's making money still too.
And that's a crazy.
I mean, I don't know.
I try to say that.
You do yourself a favor.
Oh, I know.
Trust me.
Marriage and money, bro, don't mix.
Right.
And I want to just say one point here because this is a really, this happens to a lot of men.
This is a really pivotal point when you're in that early 30s zone, mid-30s.
Like you're young.
You're like, it's this thing where you have more, you're like, this is it.
I like Charlie, like, like, if you're happy what you're doing, keep doing it.
That's your career.
Right.
Yeah.
But it's like, if you're not happy, you're making okay money.
This is the point in time where most men is like, if I don't jump here, this is going to be my life.
Take a risk.
No, you don't.
I saw everybody in the office.
You need a risk.
You need a risk.
Jump.
I mean, this book called YouTube, Quantum Leaps.
And everyone that's successful took a risk leap, whether it was 23, 32, doesn't matter when they took it.
They took it.
If they didn't take that leap, we'd be doing the same thing they were doing for 10, 40 plus years and they retired.
If I ever thought about having to go to an office and do that type of job, I'm just like, you know, it's like, that's how crazy it is once you take yourself out of that world and you become an entrepreneur.
Like getting out of that, that, what do you call it?
It's like, yeah, getting out of the rat race.
You're kind of like out in orbit.
You're kind of floating around a bit.
You don't quite have a direction.
But once you get that direction and you really get like some traction or whatever, it's the best thing in the world.
What's scary to me is that like, I've been getting these phone calls.
I don't say the names because obviously this is YouTube and Rumble.
But what I hear coming is very scary.
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And then I tell people all the time, like, okay, even though I like me, Myron, or yourselves, but at least we know where we're going, what we're doing.
And we made a way out.
You chose.
If you think this is going to be sweet in 2030, guys, it's going to be like legit end-of-the-world new order type shit where they're either paying you a monthly salary, you go do whatever they say, or UBI.
Yeah, or you have no income.
So, you got to steal?
You got to loot?
You got to.
What are you going to do?
So, that's where I say it's scary because if you're not being financially selled now, when will you be?
Yeah, and this is why we're also teaching AI in our course.
My brother, he's an AI or C-A-I-O at a company, and he's also recently wrote a book that came out and published last fall called Turning on Machines, which basically talks about how to adjust to the AI world and everything and stuff.
So, we have him in there for a couple webinars as well as the guy from Aerodrome.
He's going to come in for a few webinars.
He's probably even going to be- Come to meet him, actually.
Come to our meetup in June.
We're going to have a crypto mindset meeting.
He's fine now.
He's coming down.
Yo, guys, I'm committed this year to crypto.
I'm learning trading as well for crypto and as well meeting CEOs because, bro, that's the future.
Fellas, if you don't know, man, I'm telling y'all right now, yes, the bitches are dope, girls are fire, but bro, what's going to save you the money?
Hands down.
And guess what happens?
We'll come after more with the money.
Yes, I mean, smart about it.
Money makes things easier, right?
People are like, money is evil, all that stuff.
And it's like, well, that's a rich person trying to hustle poor people.
Right.
But like, if you're rich, you know, like, it doesn't, people are like, oh, it changes who you are and stuff.
It's like, no, if you're a good person, you're going to be a good person no matter what.
It's an amplified.
It amplifies who you really are as a person.
Exactly.
And it's funny because this changes you.
I feel like I'm way better now.
Yeah.
I've met Romania.
Motivated.
Motivated.
And now I've realized the value of a dollar.
It's kind of like, okay, been through that phase.
However, for people watching, it's kind of like, that sounds good, but what can I do?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, but you should try because this is the chance now.
Yeah.
And so, like, I did a video on my channel.
It was called the Bear Market Survival Kit.
I think it was the title just about two weeks ago.
I recommend people go on to the Cultivate Crypto Channel and look at that as well.
Because if you go out into the wilderness, right?
And you're trying to survive, basically, which is what it's like if you're an entrepreneur, if you're an investor, that kind of thing.
The thing that is fire, the thing that's going to keep you warm is an income stream.
So that's a massive part of the equation.
But then investments, things that are going to bring you more resources over time, like all those things come into it.
So I just basically in that stream broke down like everything you need to do to be able to survive and thrive in a crypto bear market.
We're going to expand upon that a lot in the crypto mindset course.
When did it drop in the course?
Drop, well, today.
So yeah, it's live right now.
Go down below in the description box.
Also, what's in the course?
Could you say real quick?
Yeah, so it's 15 live webinars over the course of about two weeks.
And then it's five pre-recorded webinars.
And then we have flash webinars throughout the quarter with different guests from crypto, also from the red pill space.
You've done the return on flex webinar, which is always very popular webinar.
Very popular.
Because you want to enjoy your money too.
Yeah, look, you can make money, but you need to enjoy it before you die, bro.
Correct.
At least a little bit.
No, all of a sudden.
What was that trash-ass BMW you said, like, never buy?
Like, we stopped so many guys from buying that BMW.
X5?
Was the X5?
It was like the one that looks like a fake Lambo or whatever.
Oh, the I8, the IA.
No!
You stopped so many people from buying that car, man.
So hold on.
Say this, right?
I think back then it was like, what?
80, 90K?
Yes.
You know what it costs now?
Hold on.
I got y'all.
Hold on.
Price of BMW I8.
We help so many guys just stop making these horrible financial decisions, man, because, you know, people want to stunt.
But they are now on the market for 35K.
So you would have lost at least 50K in that car buying it back then.
Shit.
It's still paying that payment right now.
Yep.
High interest, too.
So, guys, it's 55K, 35K.
Yeah, bro, this is down bad.
You could have had a whole Bitcoin probably at that time.
Yeah.
So you'd have been buried in that car.
But yeah, no, you're right.
I mean, that was a great webinar.
Got it.
But the last thing I'll say to your question, though, is so we have those 15 live webinars.
We break them down by the first five webinars.
We teach you risk management, number one.
Number one, anybody who, what do you call it, has any trouble in our course, usually they take the coin recommendation webinar, they don't watch risk management, and they go buy a bunch of stupid stuff.
And like, it's not how we recommend doing it, right?
So we have what's happening in the quarter.
We have the coins that we like and stuff, but we have risk management right there for everybody because that's absolutely the most important thing.
First, you need to survive, then you can thrive, right?
And then we teach people technical analysis, fundamental analysis.
So I do the technical analysis.
Miguel does the fundamental analysis.
We do cover a little bit of either side with each other.
And then we do on-chain data.
And then now we're adding the AI webinars to that too.
So that's like the first five or seven webinars.
Then the next third of the webinars is focused on, okay, what's hot now in crypto?
Base, a lot of stuff look like base might come out with a token.
If they come out with a token, what's that going to look like?
So we talk about all the real competitive Solana.
Because Coinbase has got that money.
They're on the stock market.
Aerodrome's on it too.
And there's a lot of Ethereum money behind Bitcoin.
It's not saying that name, man.
I don't know.
And it's a big part.
And the last third of the course basically then focuses on, okay, so you got your basics, you got your building blocks, you got your foundation, then you got what's happening now.
You got the exciting stuff, right?
And then you have, at the very end, we go basically, we turn it full, full on.
So like, for somebody who's brand new to crypto, it probably feels very overwhelming.
Like, what the hell are they talking about?
It's kind of like you go to a foreign country and you get immersed in Japanese or Spanish or whatever language you're trying to learn.
Maybe that's not the place you want to get immersion, but you know, hey, you got to choose one, right?
And so like, it just depends.
But like, basically, at the end, we just turn on the jets.
We have CEOs from different companies coming over.
We have developers from other projects coming over.
We have people who, you know, are grassroots built, you know, something themselves, tell people about the experience, like all that type of thing.
And each quarter that's extremely different with which ones we do.
When we come back on Monday, Monday, we'll have a whole schedule for you guys that we can show for everybody.
But we basically, it's a two-week boot camp where we have the whole smorgasborg of what's happening.
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And then we support you guys throughout the quarter.
Well, look, I've seen now where school's failing people.
Yes.
Degrees don't matter anymore.
True.
I would say trades do matter because trades are always going to have the value versus AI.
But learning AI is very important as well.
But the typical route, a conventional route, isn't working anymore.
Correct.
School's pretty much dead.
And you know, the worst part about school?
Student loans.
Yeah.
Trump just said he's going to take away the repayment plans for student loans, which means if you had a high student loan payment, it's coming back to you on May 1st.
So all that money you were saving up by not paying a little bit every month is going to be gone May 1st.
That's crazy, bro.
Let's get the course down below, man.
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That's pretty dope.
I've seen big donors donate to certain creators a bunch of money.
Crypto is like, wow.
They get instantly like that.
Yeah.
Out of love.
Crypto's the future, man.
Like, it is.
I'll say that thing in just a second, but Larry Fanks, Stephen Druggenmiller, these guys who are like Titans of Wall Street.
They're like, well, Larry Fank's going at it hard and he's like, we're going to go for this.
We're going to go for the real world asset 365 kind of thing.
But even Stanley Drugging Miller, he's like, I don't really like Bitcoin.
But I can't deny that this is the future of Fire.
It's not going away.
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And if it's going to be regulated, if anything.
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You can take your creator rewards in Bitcoin or Ethereum now or in USCC.
Why do you think they did that?
Yeah.
Because Rumble, Rumble started taking Rumble led the way once again.
Because without Rumble, I'll be honest with you, there's no free speech.
If Rumble goes away, we're cooked.
Because X is compromised, obviously.
Twitch is definitely censored.
YouTube as well.
Rumble is the only one that's not censored.
And honestly, speaking, you can say anything under.
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What do you have left?
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Avoiding Million Dollar Mistakes in Crypto00:09:22
So before we start closing out here, give us one coinage to look into seriously.
And one mistake most people make getting into crypto.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, okay.
So I'll say the mistake first, right?
The biggest mistake is, especially during this year, right here, is basically it's kind of one of two things.
One is just like tiptoeing, not taking it seriously this year, and then trying to like ape it all in in 27.
Well, because you're going to be playing catch up.
Exactly, right?
And but the other, the other big mistake is really just trying to going all in into anything that isn't Bitcoin or Ethereum.
You know, either it's 50-50 or you choose one.
Both of them are safe to buy.
They're going, they both have bullets.
Oh, hold on, Miguel.
My boy said this coin is going to 10x.
I'm going to be a millionaire.
What are you talking about, bro?
This coin, I heard this meme coin.
It'll 10x for a day, and then it's going to go to zero in the next day.
I mean, that's usually how it happens.
These coins, like Gen Z is really now in the space now.
But the thing is, the Gen Z traders are very like fast, fast cash, fast ass.
They jump in.
The coins are only going to like a million market cap.
If you're lucky, the coin goes viral, it goes to 100 million.
It'll be down at 40 the next day, 25, 13.
It'll pop off to 30 again, and then it'll be at 8, 5, and it's over.
Damn.
Usually these coins last like a week.
That's it.
And a lot of times, like these guys are jumping in these coins at like 100K market cap, 100k.
We used to, like, me and like back in the last cycle, back in the 21 cycle, right?
We wouldn't touch a coin under half a billion.
It wasn't even worth it.
It was like, it was trash because almost like you, because you knew, we knew.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's nothing behind it.
You'd make more money buying a coin at a billion because it would go to 5 billion real quick and stuff.
These half a billion dollar coins.
Now we're talking about 100k coins.
Like, bro, like, it's crazy.
Like, I mean, I mean, but I've evolved with the times too.
Like, I invested in a coin in 25 called Fat, the Fat Fellas.
60.
What the heck the fat fellas bro added out here man uh, but you know, at 64 000 market cap it went to 22 million dollars.
A lot of money.
We made a lot of money.
I'm in a lot of a lot of Salon and what I did with it, I sold it into Solana and that just really built up bags.
We did it with nobody.
We did it with PAPE.
PAPE was a huge one.
We did in 23.
Um, we caught that at like 40 million market cap.
It went to 11 billion dollars.
That was, that was the best runner of 23 and 24.
What's the most you ever made off of one coin?
If you don't mind sharing with an audience, I mean seven figures, but I can't like, i'm not gonna say like get this nigga yeah, number of x's.
I mean multiple thousands of x's, I mean.
I mean like, I mean, and what does x's mean?
Right like, if you two x, you double.
So if you do 2000 x, you do lots of doubles, right?
Let's say a coin cost like 50 cents, right?
Yeah, and I put I don't know five kids of that coin.
Okay, let's say it does really well, right?
What should I do with that money after it comes out.
So should I leave it in there?
So like, take profits right, so take profits for sure.
Always when you, when you get that big of a w yeah because, like a 10x puts you at 50, higher than that, you're like you're sitting at, like crazy you're, you know 100x, you're sitting at half a million dollars.
Right, you're crazy not to take profits on that.
But the thing is, this is where.
This is where like, knowing the crypto mindset course, knowing where, because we tell you like roughly where we are in the cycle, let's just say, you hit it in 27 boom, you're at, you're at half a million dollars, we got more, we got more bull run.
So this is where you'd probably you'd park the profits back into.
I would probably take 300 000 out of that.
Throw it into either bitcoin or theory, buy yourself a few bitcoin, put the rest into Ethereum and then, if we see a future, we we leave a little, because you still have 200 grand left in there, or 100 grand left.
It could still, it can continue on because that, if it's, if it's a coin that did that much, it's really hot out here.
It might have another run later in 28.
So you'll like, but you have to lock it in.
This is the big problem is, like we tell like I have consultations with guys all the time they made a ton of money on coins, but but like they don't want to let it go because they have this dream, they have this number in their head.
I'm gonna hit like I want to buy this house cash dog.
You have like 200 grand here.
You have 100 000.
Take 100 g's, put it in bitcoin, Ethereum or put it in cash at least like this coin, and then you know they give it back.
I I had a friend that wanted to buy a yacht from his crypto earnings.
Yeah, he was almost there.
He's like 300k away from making his uh yacht purchase in cash.
Crypto went down 300k away.
Yeah, he's 300k away.
He, he lost that and some he's like bro this, i'm out.
He just took everything out.
Yeah, there was some guy re just this week.
He was using cow swap on aave uh and he pressed a swap with 50 million dollars from his mobile fucking phone like an idiot and it turned into 35 000.
Well wait, because he did it.
He did a wrong swap.
He shouldn't have done it.
It's like he tried to a coin that had so little utility that, like the conversion fucked him over.
Like 99, 50 million dollars gone yes, like that yeah, 30 grand.
And now some people are saying bro, you can, yeah.
Some people are saying basically like oh, you know, maybe they got a lot of funds illicitly, they're money laundering.
They found a way to get it back through bots and they maybe they lost 50 million but they ended up getting 35 million and other wallets, stuff like that.
So there's some shady stuff that could be going on there.
I'm leaning more towards that, because right to to pull to do something, that's stupid, but that's just crazy.
But anyways, even if you just take it at face value, all the guy needed to do to save 49.9 million dollars was spend a thousand dollars 998 on the crypto mindset course.
And we would have told him like hey, if you have 50 million dollars, don't have it on your mobile phone first of all, yeah.
Second of all, don't have it on one wallet.
Third of all, what are you doing?
Trying to swap it like this?
See guys in Miami with their phone out, their portfolio, showing people lit.
Look what I got, look what I got.
Sean girls.
Oh, no.
And fast forward, one of the guys that shows Sean girls all the time, he got robbed.
Yeah.
They go set him up.
He was in bed.
Using marks.
Yeah.
Gun to the head.
Unlock your phone.
That's fucked.
Send him.
It was crazy, bro.
And she left the country technically to Columbia.
And she's gone now.
So it's kind of like, why'd you do that to yourself?
But I guess if you're not already not aware, that's what happened here in Miami.
Remember that famous story when the Trump coin came out?
The guy got taught his girlfriend about crypto.
Oh, mistake number one.
Mistake number one.
If you love, if you truly, if they're really worth you, you can tell them that you're in crypto, but don't show them how to use it.
Don't you like, like, no, that's ridiculous.
So he showed the girl how to use crypto, how to send money.
He showed her every, he fucking just, he basically taught her to rob him.
And then as soon as he made, he invested early in Trump coin, made some money on Trump coin, then stole a few million dollars and ran off.
They caught her, thank God, and they arrested her and stuff.
So he was able to get some of it.
But by the time he got the money back, it was already down a lot.
So like, so dumb.
Just like, listen, man.
And that's somebody that was his living girlfriend for like a year or two.
Never tell your girl what you have, bro.
Yeah.
Never.
That ruins things.
So we're going to do a zone call, guys, for Council Club and see what network after this stream.
Any chat skills?
We're good to go.
All right, fellas.
Where can I find you?
Go over to Cultivate Crypto on YouTube and definitely subscribe there.
You could also find Cultivate Crypto on cultivate crypto.com.
You can go to Cultivate Crypto on Twitter.
You can go to Cultivate Crypto on Instagram.
You can see the pattern.
Same name.
Yeah.
And you can follow me at Dollar Cost Crypto on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, everywhere.
Not OnlyFans, I'm sorry.
But everywhere.
And yeah, we basically stream just about almost every single day.
But once we're off of YouTube, we're going to be teaching.
We completely go off of YouTube and we're gone.
So we're going to be gone for most of April teaching classes.
That's how focused we are.
We like we're not like going back and forth.
We're like 100% dedicated to training every single person to get them to the point where like they're not going to get robbed.
They're not going to make these mistakes.
We just recently found out the CIA started using our wallet safety program in-house.
Wow.
XCIA guys were basically so me and Charlie created this system back in early 21, this multi-tiered wallet system to keep your money safe.
We just found out these X CIA guys just like, you know, you're never X CIA.
Stop.
Stop with it.
If you're CIA, you're not, you're never XCIA.
Yeah, yeah.
Unless you went to jail for it.
You're always there.
Right.
They're using our wallet system as like a way to basically help against these human error systems because what'll happen is you split your money into multiple wallets and you have a wallet that we call it.
I call it a virgin wallet, right?
Virgin wallet.
It holds the money.
It's got a hardware wallet, like a treasure attached to it.
It's never touched anything.
All it does is send, receives money, never swaps, never goes on the website, never does anything.
It is literally never even contacted another contract smart contract.
It's a virgin wallet, holy wallet, right?
Then you have something I call condom wallets.
They call it something else.
They call it a virgin wallet.
They didn't.
Wow, yeah, I wonder why.
They didn't even use condoms.
You see the divorce rate in the CIA.
Sticks in the mind bed.
And then you have these wallets where, like, okay, I'll send my Ethereum to this second wallet.
The second wallet, I'll trade on Uniswap, the safer stuff.
Then you have the degenerate wallet.
This is where you buy very degenerate coins.
This is where you yield forms.
Mean coins.
Mean coins.
You have this layers of protection here, right?
That if let's just say something happens, a meme coin one jacks, you only lose 15%, 10%.
If you lose only like 10 or 15% of your coins, you can make it back.
Cooking Up Future Yield Forms00:00:37
It's early enough.
You've made a ton of money.
But if you, the problem meme guys do is they have all their fucking money, one fucking wallet.
Yeah.
Like Coinbase.
Yeah.
And then that gets watched.
One swap, one bad contract, one retarded mistake on a drunken night.
And they're cooked.
They're cooked.
Yeah.
And they're cooked and stuff.
So like that's when I knew, like, we're cooking, dude.
We're cooking.
They're fucking.
They're watching.
That's a W. That's a W.
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