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June 17, 2024 - Fresh & Fit

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Free Speech, Lockdowns, Alex Jones Bankruptcy And MORE!

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	Thank you.
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	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Frustrated Podcast.
	We're here with Viva Frye, man.
	We got a lot to talk about.
	Let's get into it!
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	We're back.
	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fresh Air Podcast, regular edition.
	It's Money Monday.
	We're here with Viva Fryman.
	I'm excited for this interview.
	We're going to be breaking down a couple of things, some current events, some past events, but we got some stuff to talk about.
	Before we get into it, guys, CastleClub.tv, as you guys know, that is where we post all of our content now.
	Mo did a fantastic job, and he organized all of the videos on Castle Club into playlists, whether it's After Hours, Frank Castle's, guest interviews, etc.
	A lot of the interviews that we had to take down off of YouTube, guys, because as you guys know, we had to take down a bunch of videos.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	Right?
	Those are all going to go on Castle Club.
	Mo's going to retroactively repost a lot of them on there.
	Some of them aren't even on Rumble.
	So we are going to have our entire backlog of content on CastleClub.tv.
	You can still find a lot of it on Rumble and on YouTube, guys.
	But as you guys know, we have to take down a bunch of videos to try to get re-monetized.
	We'll see what the hell happens.
	If we get re-monetized, awesome.
	If we don't, it is what it is.
	But, you know, you got to try, right?
	You're going to see a lot of them under legacy content.
	You're going to see special events like the live event that we did at the venue or the overnight streams.
	We have the Fresh Match playlist, Money Mondays, gaming streams, even Fed Reacts.
	We have a bunch of these playlists.
	You're going to see it organized and it's going to be easy to find for you guys.
	Yeah, and we'll actually, what we'll do is, in the middle of the broadcast here, we'll pull it up and kind of show you guys what it looks like, how we organize it for y'all, but Castle Club is going to have everything there, guys.
	I think the best ones are the most random ones, though, where it's like traveling, having fun with the guys.
	Those are the most fun.
	Yeah, so we will go ahead and have that ready for y'all.
	But what I was saying was, also, rumble.com slash FreshFit, guys, that is the home base, man.
	Also, Viva Fry is also on Rumble, so make sure to check them out on there.
	But that's the home base for us, guys.
	You know, some haters out there trying to say, no, it's that we don't necessarily prioritize YouTube as much as we used to, guys, because unfortunately...
	They can demonetize you and cancel you at any time, guys.
	So you gotta go ahead and set up a structure somewhere else where freedom of speech is allowed and you're not necessarily censored.
	And it is what it is.
	Obviously, it's their house.
	It's their rules.
	So we gotta play by those rules.
	But if we wanna give you guys certain types of content, we have to put it on certain types of platforms that allow it.
	So we can't keep all of our stuff up on YouTube.
	The way we want, unfortunately.
	So, but it's going to be, a majority of it's still going to be on Rumble.
	Don't worry, absolutely free.
	And then a lot of the other stuff we're going to post on Castle Club for y'all.
	And then what else?
	Yacht Party?
	Yacht Party.
	Yacht Party.
	We're going to push it.
	Guys, we just got told today that we got a Rumble event on June 28th.
	It's Power Slap.
	It's Power Slap.
	So we're going to be out there in Vegas.
	We'll probably collab with Michael Sartain and Rolo and everything else like that.
	But you guys know that we pretty much always go to these events, show support for Rumble.
	So we're going to be there on the 28th.
	And then we're going to do the Yacht Party either on the 12th or the 13th.
	We're pushing it back.
	So all the people that have bought tickets, they've been notified.
	We're good to go.
	But we're going to be selling the VIP tickets still.
	So you guys get a little bit more time.
	It's going to be at the price point at $35.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	For the VIPs.
	We got just a limited amount of spots.
	Remember, guys, there's 120 tickets total, but around half or more are going to go to girls.
	So we only have a limited amount of spots for guys that are VIPs.
	Like three quarters going to girls.
	Oh, three.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay, so yeah.
	We're trying to make it exclusive, guys.
	We don't want it where it's like, I understand that the price point's a bit high, and that's fine.
	We're going to do free meetups and everything else like that.
	But this one is a party, networking event.
	We're going to have other creators there.
	It's going to be a very...
	It's going to be a higher class thing, man.
	It's going to be a nice yacht, 100 foot plus, with a bunch of chicks on there.
	It's going to be classy, right?
	We're trying to make it exclusive, and that's what it is.
	Obviously, you have to do that with certain price points.
	If you can't afford it, that's totally fine.
	We'll have other events that will be cheaper, and we'll have other meetups that are going to be absolutely free, but this one is going to be more of a...
	It's not just going to be a party, but it's going to be a networking event.
	You're going to be able to meet certain people, high net worth individuals that are going to be there because if they can afford that, clearly they've got their money together.
	And we're going to be streaming it as well.
	So you'll be able to come on the yacht, collab with us, get your stuff shouted out, which that might be in itself worth it.
	So, you know, like I said before, that's how we're going to do it.
	Link is pinned in the comments on Cals Club.
	We only have it open up for Cals Club members right now at this moment.
	It's not open up to the general public.
	I think the biggest thing is being in the right room at the right time.
	And that's the right time to be in the room because we're going to be with all creators in there as well as millionaires.
	So it's going to be really good.
	Yeah, man.
	So we're trying to keep it exclusive, guys.
	That's why the price point is where it's at, right?
	So like I said before, for now, we're selling the VIP tickets and we're focusing on that.
	Once we sell that out, then we'll talk about the other stuff.
	And we're almost there.
	And we're almost there.
	Shout out to all of us.
	Shout out to all y'all ninjas, man.
	Haters want to go ahead and pocket watch us and everything else like that because they can't necessarily, you know, provide that kind of value.
	So they're over here saying it's all a scam or whatever, but haters are going to hate, right?
	If I was just making reaction videos all day, I'd be mad too because I don't teach my people anything besides talking shit.
	People forget, we sold out all our parties so far.
	So it's cool, bro.
	You can take a hate.
	Yeah, man.
	Haters are going to hate.
	We have real conversations here and not just gossip.
	Provide value.
	But anyway, without further ado, we've got a special guest in the house.
	I say...
	I say...
	I hear things.
	No, don't worry.
	Before, when I was coming down here, I like to Google who I'm going to do an interview with and scandal or controversy, and that was one of them that came up.
	Of course.
	35 people was $3,500, not $35.
	And people were saying, I don't know who I was listening to, but that was one scandal.
	There were a few, but at least controversy.
	Yeah, there was one scandal to this.
	Yeah, with our castle club, our locals is 35 and people complain about that because we do Zoom calls also.
	We do a lot of coaching on there behind the scenes.
	And, you know, obviously, and then we're also doing like meetups and everything else like that.
	So it's not just like a typical locals membership where we're just posting content.
	We're also trying to create a community on there.
	Brotherhood, basically.
	I heard somewhere on the internet that there was going to be a Rolex that was being offered at the boat party.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We're having a Rolex raffle, yeah.
	So you're just gambling for a Rolex.
	What is the market value of the Rolex, if I may ask?
	Two seven to ten K. Yeah.
	Or higher.
	How much?
	Seven to ten K. Okay.
	For a watch?
	Yeah, it's a Datejust.
	That you put on your hand?
	Yes.
	Yeah, it's nice.
	Interesting.
	It's like a small car on your hand.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a nice one.
	So, yeah, we're going to raffle that off.
	We're going to have a bunch of girls there.
	We're going to bring some games out, open bar, free food.
	And then to rent a yacht out isn't cheap, man.
	So it's going to be something a bit higher class.
	But people are always going to complain and find something.
	And we have lower tier stuff.
	People can obviously participate in that.
	But it's always interesting how people have something to say about how you run your business or how you...
	And if the price point is too low, it sells out too quickly.
	People complain it's sold out too quickly.
	Have more tickets.
	Candace Owens, when she joined Menecht, and she had a very expensive per minute.
	Oh, yeah.
	You don't get access to people for free, nor do you get to fault them for pricing it at what people are willing to pay, nor do you get to fault people for spending the money the way they want to spend it.
	You wouldn't find me on that yacht because nothing good happens after midnight.
	I got my dogs to take care of, but it sounds like it's going to be a party.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, it's going to be a good time.
	And people forget, all of our parties have been a success.
	The YouTube party for one million, our last party as well, for the after event.
	I mean, it's fun, man.
	Yeah, so it is what it is, man.
	But we know who you are.
	Yeah, but for the people that might not know, can you introduce yourself to the people, please?
	Yeah, everyone knows that I probably suffer from undiagnosed ADHD and being here is like being in a Vegas casino.
	There's like cameras, there's televisions everywhere.
	It's wild.
	And I can see the chat as we're doing this.
	Viva Frey.
	So my real name is David Freyheit.
	Freyheit means freedom in German or Germanic language is Yiddish.
	It means freedom verbatim.
	Born and raised Montreal, Canadian, Canuck.
	English but speak French.
	Youngest of five kids.
	Dad's a lawyer.
	Four of the five kids are lawyers.
	We all still speak despite not necessarily sharing the same politics.
	I think the...
	I would say the liberals are outnumbered three to two by the conservatives or ultra mega.
	But we love each other.
	We get along.
	We have a good family, but we don't see eye to eye on politics.
	And you just don't talk about it at Christmas.
	Ended up in Florida because the world went batshit crazy with COVID and I realized that Canada, not sure if it's a sinking ship that can't be, you know, salvaged or can't be righted, but I think the battle to fight right now is more effectively waged in the beautiful free state of Florida than the censored country of Canada where it will be soon outright illegal.
	I'll be put in jail for some of the tweets that I put out in Canada if I stayed there forever and it wasn't a life for raising a family anymore either.
	I met a YouTuber from Canada.
	I forgot his name, man.
	He's a fitness guy, went into fitness, had a girlfriend too as well.
	He got banned for saying somebody was fat.
	I was like, in Canada?
	That's crazy!
	Banned from YouTube?
	There's words that you can't say on YouTube that don't just relate to race, religion, or politics, but body stuff.
	The A word, which I had no idea you cannot mention on YouTube.
	But it's nuts.
	We've entered a realm of reality where certain types of discussions, however offensive they are, are promoted and others, however realistic they are, are demoted.
	Let me ask you this.
	So a lot of creators believe in free speech, and I believe too as well.
	However, I think the current society doesn't really want to push that anyway.
	What do you think about free speech?
	Well, people are a bunch of sissies.
	I haven't read the book The Coddling of the American Mind, but I think I understand what it's about.
	People have not been brought up to just deal with words the way you should deal with them.
	We were talking beforehand.
	There's a certain debate that I don't like getting into just because it never goes anywhere productive, but I don't believe in shouting people down who want to criticize the state of Israel.
	I don't believe in, not boycotting, in illegalizing boycotting of Israel.
	Do what you want to do, say what you want to say, so long as it doesn't materialize into action.
	But if it materializes into action, it's not the words that are the problem anymore, it's the action.
	And I listen to people, people call me all sorts of names, and I don't give a sweet bugger all, so long as it ends with the words.
	But if it goes beyond words, it's not the words that are the problem, it's the actions.
	And I know people are very sensitive to words lead to action in real time, violence, yada, yada.
	You've got to censor the internet.
	Horse crap.
	A ton of discrimination, violence.
	I mean, it all happened prior to the internet.
	So clearly, free speech on the internet is not the issue.
	And it's not even clear that free speech is the issue.
	I believe, genuinely, it's suppressing the free speech that exacerbates all the problems, as opposed to letting people say stupid, offensive things.
	And if they're stupid and offensive, they will be outed and countered.
	And if they're not stupid and offensive, if they offend you, you might have to deal with it nonetheless.
	Yeah, that's a good point.
	So, you're on YouTube, but you're also on Rumble, and you make content where you react to things from elite.
	Can you give people your professional background real fast?
	I look like a nutcase now, but I didn't always look like this.
	If you Google me in September 2021, I ran for office in Canada, the People's Party of Canada.
	I've been a lawyer.
	Until I voluntarily relinquished my license because I live in Florida and didn't want to pay $3,000 a year so that random idiots on the internet can file ethics complaints against me because they don't like my tweets.
	We'll get there.
	I was a commercial litigator.
	I started working at one of the biggest law firms in Canada.
	I don't know if they want me to say it, but it's Borden, Ladner, Gervais, BLG. Biggest in terms of number of lawyers.
	I did my stash there.
	I was a young lawyer there.
	I was on what they would refer to as partnership track in the long run because I came from a good pedigree, as one of the lawyers once told me when I said I'm leaving.
	And my dad's a lawyer, he was a partner at a place called Steichman Elliott, one of Canada's best law firms.
	I was there for about five years, including internship, and I had my first kid, and I said, I hate everything about this life.
	I get to the office before my kid's awake, I get home when she's asleep, and I don't know if it was a mental breakdown, but one Friday afternoon, after my wife said, you know, you know what you have to do, and I quit.
	And then I was ready to go back to commercial photography because I've always been into video, videography, you know, camera stuff.
	Applied at a place called Dawson College.
	Before I could get rejected, I was put on the waiting list.
	I'm like a 35-year-old man with a kid.
	And they're saying, you really want to go back to commercial photography?
	You have a law degree and you've been practicing.
	I started getting calls and started my own law practice in the basement of my parents' house at the time.
	Or I might have been.
	I forget where I was living, but that was the address at one point.
	And then I just rented a small office, built up a small practice for myself in a 700-square-foot place into a good boutique, Freiheit Legal.
	But I never loved it, and I never liked one day more than the day before.
	And I said, if I'm doing this when I'm 50, I'll probably be dead of a heart attack and unhappy.
	And so 2016, give or take, I had discovered YouTube, made a few viral videos like, oh, you can make a few hundred bucks a month, a thousand bucks a month.
	I can figure out how to do this.
	I started winding down the litigation practice and focusing on YouTube.
	But it wasn't law-themed at all.
	It was like Casey Neistat-esque.
	So vlogs?
	Yeah, vlogs.
	And I was doing fishing, cooking, whatever, random stuff.
	And then every now and again I would do a day in the life of a lawyer, prepping for a witness, prepping for a trial.
	And it was like, oh, that's interesting.
	Do more of that.
	So I'd do more of that.
	It would get consistent traffic, but 10,000, 15,000 compared to hit or miss with random stuff.
	And then one day, 2018, give or take, I did a breakdown of the Alex Jones deposition.
	Remember that clip?
	I was going through a former psychosis back then.
	That was the only clip the media played.
	Yeah.
	And it was about the Sandy Hook defamation or intentional infliction of emotional distress.
	And I was like, oh, they're only playing that three second clip.
	I go look it up.
	The deposition was three and a half hours.
	And so I listened to this whole thing for three and a half hours time stamping where I think the lawyer asking the questions made mistakes.
	And then I did a breakdown analysis on the roof of my house at the time wearing sunglasses, cringe as hell.
	And that video sort of went quasi-viral.
	It got like a quarter of a million views on YouTube, which is kind of interesting for a legal analysis.
	So I was like, oh, this is what I can do.
	This is my ikigai.
	What the world needs, what I'm good at, what I can get paid for, and...
	What's the fourth one?
	Provide some value and give people the truth.
	That's like an overlapping force.
	What you're good at, what the world needs, what you can get paid for.
	Oh, and there's another one.
	It doesn't matter.
	And where it overlaps is your ICA guide.
	I was like, I can do this.
	I have a legal mind.
	I have 10 plus years of training.
	And so I said, okay, I'm going to dedicate it to this, niche down on that.
	Then YouTube took down that video, gave me a strike for violation of terms of service for hate speech.
	And then I realized, what the hell is going on?
	I didn't even play any portions of the deposition where Alex Jones said anything bad.
	Just so I get this straight, they took down your video and gave you a strike for hate speech for giving legal background on a deposition that is public record in a court proceeding in a civil case.
	Absolutely.
	Crazy.
	It wasn't even like it was in the context of a case where there might have been hate speech, like a hate crime or racial slurs.
	It was Alex Jones talking about his reporting on Sandy Hook.
	Yeah.
	And so that got taken off of YouTube and I made a big stink about it because I'm a nice guy and I don't engage in hate speech.
	Yeah.
	Although some people might think I engage in hate speech by saying there are only two sexes and things are mental illnesses to be treated and not encouraged, but we'll get there probably at some point.
	I was like, I'm not putting up with this.
	This is bullshit.
	When people go to the video, because they had the link, it said remove for terms of service, and I think it said hate speech.
	That irked me.
	And so I appealed it and I made a stink about it.
	Nothing happened.
	And they said, too bad.
	Live with it.
	Wow.
	And then about like, I think it was like two weeks or a month later, it just randomly reappears on YouTube.
	Oh, wow.
	And so then I really- So you lost the appeal, then it came back.
	Yeah, but it came back without me even asking for it.
	But I took a victory lap because it was evidence that I didn't engage in hate speech.
	But what I realized is it was all just algorithmic, what they didn't want at any given point in time.
	You know, tinker with it, add words, that videos get flagged, and then they can change the rules later on.
	Yeah.
	But worse yet, they can change the rules and then retroactively punish you.
	That's the biggest problem.
	That's the Tim Pool recently.
	They actually took down Alex Jones' video of his when he had Rogan on.
	And they were like in the RV or something like that talking.
	And they took that video down like three years after the fact.
	So he asked them, is it okay to put it up?
	And they said yes back then.
	And they said recently, it's not okay.
	Take it down.
	I've had a long-lasting theory about this.
	Someone is suing YouTube out of Quebec for...
	It's a class action for COVID censorship.
	Oh, okay.
	I had her on.
	She's amazing.
	They're suing on behalf of creators who were censored and content consumers who were censored as well.
	On the basis that, you know, it's, it's, it's, I forget that.
	I'll get it.
	Yeah, no, no.
	Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
	There was a time where if you talked about the pandemic or anything else like that, they would immediately flag the video.
	You'd have a Wikipedia thing underneath your video.
	It would get suppressed.
	And you can get a strike for COVID misinformation.
	A lot of people got strikes and got their channels removed because of that.
	Now, if you talk about it, you don't get strikes.
	Well, not just that.
	People are getting strikes and getting penalized for stuff which has now been proven to be true, contrary to what it was flagged for as misinformation at the time.
	But I've always long believed that other than the argument of unjust enrichment, where YouTube says, come to the platform, you're going to bring traffic here, we're going to use you for as much as we can, then we're going to kick you off once we've gotten the traffic, the eyeballs that you brought.
	I think that's a case of unjust enrichment.
	The only issue is the contractual link because you're not a consumer, you're a merchant, not a consumer.
	You're using YouTube as a business.
	The unjust enrichment presumes sort of an absence of a contract and an absence of the enrichment for the company.
	But false or deceitful business practices, where they say, your video's good, we've monetized it, you've approved it, and we've given you the go-ahead, and then later on we say, no, we're demonetizing it.
	And I say, that's a deceitful business practice because you've made money off of me and then you penalize my ability to continue making money and risk my entire business after you guys have made your buck.
	And I say, I don't know why in, say for example, California where they have these good, it's not so much consumer protection laws, but rather business practice laws, no one has gone with that angle.
	But no, they're terrible.
	They know it.
	I don't even think it's about money anymore.
	It's about narrative control and politics, even if it means losing money.
	But for what YouTube has done, Rumble wouldn't necessarily be what it is today.
	They've created the Rumble monster by virtue of their own wrongdoings.
	Yeah, I mean, and then the terms and service are extremely vague and, you know, nebulous.
	Like, you don't even really know, because it's like, it can, the thing is, is that it's written a certain way so that it can be enforced at any time or not be enforced at any time.
	Yeah, that's called law, it's lawlessness.
	What it is, it's communism.
	Like, okay, when Fox News, MSNBC talks about Jeffrey Epstein, well, they're a news outlet, so they get to monetize.
	I talk about it, gets demonetized.
	Yeah.
	It's like they're making me work for them for free.
	Yeah.
	It turned me into like an indentured servant.
	But they're opaque by design.
	It's the feature, not the bug.
	And they use it to go after the disfavored channels.
	Alex Jones.
	And I've been, you know, touched wood.
	I don't really care about YouTube.
	I haven't had problems with YouTube.
	I have my fights and I make stinks about them because I think they need to be brought to the...
	I'm in good standing.
	I had like a medical misinformation flag from an interview I did with Dr.
	Francis Christian, a doctor, who's talking about the jab, and they flag that.
	Really?
	An unlicensed YouTube, some dude in whatever country says that's medical misinformation, what Dr.
	Francis Christian said.
	Crazy.
	You do your YouTube re-education camp and they remove the strike now, which is a good innovation.
	So you got a warning that time.
	No, it was actually, they took the video down.
	They say, well, it's a warning because it wasn't the first strike.
	Do the re-education camp and show us that you understand the rules.
	That's one good thing they did.
	Well, that was, I believe, to pat myself on the back and my law partner, Robert Barnes, Viva Barnes Law, when we drafted the Rumble Terms, I said, it makes no sense you can have a warning forever.
	It's not a warning, then.
	It's just a one of four strikes.
	So if there's no room for redemption, it's not a warning.
	So I believe that they've appropriated that aspect of what we built into the Rumble Terms of Service.
	Yeah.
	We had a warning for three years for something, for putting a link in one time, and it's just crazy, man.
	So you're saying something about class auction loss.
	So tell me about that a little bit.
	I have to refresh my memory, but it's a woman out of Quebec who's suing.
	She got authorization to go ahead with the class action.
	Wow.
	This is all public.
	You can find it on the internet.
	Oh, yeah.
	I had her on.
	Elle veut savoir.
	Her name is French.
	It means Elle wants to know.
	Oui, oui.
	So it's a French channel.
	It's a Canadian channel, but French.
	Yes, and she's a beautiful woman who was trying to work in Hollywood and trying to work in music, and luckily, I say escaped that vortex of degeneracy.
	And she's got a great channel, L-O-E-L-O-V-E-U-T, Savoir, S-A-V-O-I-R. So she sued, and she got a good judge.
	I don't know where he's from, but he definitely has an Eastern European last name who might have had some experience, you know, immediate with himself or with his family of communism and censorship.
	And he said, YouTube moved to have it dismissed, said, no, you can't sue because of whatever the reasons.
	He says, no, she's made allegations to the effect that it could reasonably...
	Lay a basis of acclaim, the class of people that she's seeking to represent, content creators who are censored wrongly, or content creators who are censored, and viewers who are deprived of listening to, to define classes, and she's able to move forward with this class action out of the province of Quebec.
	Wow.
	But I think it's a good sign of what's to come.
	So, question.
	If the judge finds in her favor and rules that they did wrongly censor her and gave her a strike or whatever it may be, will that set case law in the United States where creators that got strikes and or...
	Because that strike might have been the stone that led to them being canceled or terminated.
	Would that set case law where people in the United States can get their channels back?
	I don't think so, because Canada and America are different when it comes to YouTube.
	Well, I mean, even from one state to the next, I think they call it persuasive but not binding.
	International, it's even less persuasive and even less binding.
	But YouTube is an international organization, right?
	Well, what it might show is I suspect other provinces have similar class action rules as Quebec.
	I mean, they're basically the same throughout Canada.
	So I think if this stands in Quebec, you could have potentially a national class action, like they sort of banned all of these lawsuits together.
	And you're going to inspire other lawyers to take the same chance elsewhere.
	I really wish I could remember the basis of...
	They were saying that they were not applying any of their rules with any logical consistency.
	And so, the idea being also that it's not just the creators who have the right to speak, but people who have the right to listen.
	And if the judge says, if it turns out they were applying their rules wrongly or arbitrarily or capriciously, They might be entitled to nominal damages, but nominal damages of like 500 bucks a plaintiff.
	Anyone who created videos on YouTube who was a resident of Quebec between 2021-2024, you're talking big numbers.
	Do this elsewhere.
	People need to do it.
	I mean, in Canada, we're suing Pfizer and Moderna, or at least there's two people who are...
	Kayla Pollack, a woman who was...
	Are we allowed to talk about this now?
	Yeah, yeah, sure.
	Go ahead.
	Who was rendered a quadriplegic by the Moderna booster after getting two Pfizer jabs, is suing Moderna.
	The family of a young boy, 17 years old, dropped dead, 33 days after Pfizer, Sean Hartman.
	His father is suing Pfizer.
	In Canada, we didn't have the PrEP Act immunity.
	We had contractual indemnification clauses.
	Can you explain that real quick?
	Real quick is, in theory, the immunity in the United States comes from a piece of legislation that immunizes, shields the companies from lawsuits.
	That's in the PREP Act, and whether or not they were fraudulently misrepresenting their data, fraud vitiates everything, but bottom line...
	All things being proper, they had legislative immunity shielding them from suit.
	In Canada, I believe also, I want to say South Africa, Australia, they didn't have immunity shielding them from suit.
	What they had is indemnity clauses, meaning if they get sued, then the government has to hold harmless or indemnify the pharma companies by virtue of the contract.
	So they say, the government says, if you guys get sued, we will hold you harmless.
	We'll indemnify you.
	So whatever you order to pay, if you are, we'll pay it.
	Oh, so the government steps up and deals with it.
	So that's where it's much different to the extent there is no legislative immunity, but only indemnity clauses where, okay, you can sue them, and they'll say, they'll call the government in, and they'll say, government, assume my defense.
	Oh!
	Assume any quantum that I am ordered to pay because you agreed to indemnify me for any suit.
	So the suit can happen and the damages can be ordered by the court or adjudicated by the court.
	That's where the Canadian tax dollars go.
	Holy shit!
	This is my prediction, and if it happens, I'll be the smartest guy in the room, but maybe only in five years.
	This is where you get the government to say, well, holy shit, we're not going to pay out a billion dollars for your, even if we agreed to that, we're going to go in there and find out where you lie to us about your data so that we can get out of the indemnity clause.
	And say, now you guys are up Poop Creek, you lied, and we would indemnify you if you told us what you were doing at the time, and now, oh, look, we never knew, we didn't know at the time, so we're getting out of our indemnity clause because fraud vitiates everything.
	What is the Canadian government's benefit of taking on that huge liability, though?
	Why are they basically just suiting up and defending these pharmaceutical companies where they're opening themselves up?
	What's the benefit?
	Do they pay them a bunch of money?
	There's probably a little bit of that.
	That's a decent question.
	There might be an issue about...
	I wonder if you sue Pfizer, for example.
	They're ordered to pay whatever.
	They call the government and say, you take care of that.
	Well, on the one hand, it's not the government's money.
	I'm trying to think if there's a way that they could get out of it by like sovereign immunity, but I don't think there is.
	If you were to ask the politicians at the time, I'm sure they would say the pharma companies asked for it and we were not in a position to negotiate.
	They wouldn't have brought it to market otherwise.
	So there actually was, if you, I don't know how, if anybody can pull up videos in real time, there's a guy named Anthony Housefather.
	Yeah, they could pull it up.
	Well, it's tough to find.
	Anthony Housefather was a liberal politician who basically explained in a two-minute video that I keep posting periodically to remind the world.
	Explaining how they entered into these contracts and why there's NDAs around them and why the employees of the government can't disclose the terms of the agreements above and beyond what's been publicly ordered under basically the equivalent of FOIA requests.
	And he went on for a minute and a half and he said, look, we were all in a panic.
	And the pharma company said, we wouldn't bring it to market unless you agreed to hold us harmless.
	We were rushing through development, we were rushing through research, and we weren't prepared to bring it to market unless you gave us these terms of the contract.
	And the guy said, and we needed them, and we agreed to it, and we got a vaccine to market.
	Wow.
	But that's a good, I mean, I have to think about that.
	If there's a way, I don't think there could be a way for the government to raise sovereign immunity for a claim that it has to pay out on behalf of a corporation that it agreed to hold harmless.
	But I'll book note that.
	That's crazy, man.
	Okay, yeah, because I was like, in my head, I'm like, What is their incentive?
	That's an enormous amount of liability.
	And then especially with something as new as the jab, where you only had a year to really get it out, you know that there's going to be a bunch of side effects.
	Most vaccines take the better part of a decade to actually be formulated, tested, tried, proven to be safe.
	And they're over here saying within a year, it's safe and effective.
	No, no.
	What the hell?
	Impossible.
	I'm convinced, well, I think we all are convinced, they knew it was neither safe nor effective when they were saying it was safe and effective, because I always say that there's two types of lies.
	One is saying something that you know is false, and the other is asserting something that you have no reason to believe is true.
	There you go.
	And when they said safe and effective, and you got that Irish or British woman who says, Of course we didn't test for transmission.
	We were moving at the speed of science.
	Testing the markets.
	I mean, they were saying things that they had no reason to be saying as fact while censoring people who were rightly flagged.
	Let's be real here.
	They were testing control to see people follow what they mandated.
	Mask, stay in your home, and it worked.
	It's funny.
	I've probably gone on something of a big arc that anybody following me for the last five years would have seen, but in the beginning, people were saying the mask is a symbol of social compliance.
	And look, at the time, you know, the same logic.
	Well, a mask they wear during surgery, so it must do something.
	I, at the very least, said, it can't hurt you.
	Just wear a mask.
	I mean, I wasn't telling anybody what else to do, and I was doing it, you know, to avoid conflict of people who are crazy to, like...
	Especially in Canada.
	Oh, and Quebec was even worse.
	Yeah.
	Woke of the woke of the woke.
	But, like, I fully appreciate it has become...
	I mean, I don't know if it was to that extent in the beginning.
	It's become a symbol of compliance or a symbol of good citizenry.
	I mean, there's a reason.
	When they started using it as an avatar, that is your public display of good citizenry, compliant citizen.
	I didn't know at the time that not only are they not effective, which we all suspected, but they are actually also potentially very damaging in terms of cavities, in terms of respiratory issues.
	In Quebec...
	My crowd is going to know this.
	Sanitary issues all over the place.
	You're supposed to change those disposable ones every eight hours and you've got kids keeping them in their pocket for five days.
	In Quebec, I don't know if you knew this, CBC really ran a massive article on it that the government recalled tens of thousands of potentially toxic face masks because they contained microscopic parts of graphene.
	And this is one of the moments which I remember at my kids' daycare, one of the daycare teachers who at the time liked me, I don't think the person likes me anymore, came up to me sobbing and saying, did you hear the news?
	I was like, I didn't hear the news.
	And the person says, they've recalled all these masks that they say are potentially toxic because of graphene.
	We've been wearing them.
	It felt like we had cat hair in our throats for months.
	I was like, yeah.
	And then meanwhile, this same person will now follow what the government says on other issues, which is an anomaly.
	So potentially toxic masks, plastics now being found deep in the lungs, mask mouth, mask knee, cavities, and they knew at the time that they didn't do jack squat.
	Dr.
	Fauci, is he going to be in any case punished?
	No.
	Unless a Trump comes into power, and even if Trump comes into power now, he hasn't reversed course on the frickin', he's still taking credit for Operation Warp Speed.
	Yeah, he is.
	That's his biggest L in my opinion.
	It's beyond an L. It will be very problematic to some people.
	Maybe people are going to look past it, but the amount of people who know people who are injured will not look past it.
	And I, at one point in my podcast, on a tweet, I laid out the...
	Here's the argument.
	They lied to us.
	We didn't know.
	Operation Warp Speed was only intended to be for those who were most vulnerable while continuing the search and permission of therapeutics.
	It was never intended to be a blanket mandate for children six months and up.
	They lied to me, and now I know, and let's get JFK, not JFK, RFK Jr.
	on a commission to look into it.
	That's his out.
	But to keep saying Operation Warp Speed was a great success to try to cater to the left vote, it's crazy.
	And I think with Trump, and I talked about this on a Twitter space when it comes to the whole Operation Warp Speed, I don't think, because here's the thing people got to understand, when you're the president, right, you don't know everything.
	You got your cabinet, they're telling you what it is, you're getting advised by a doctor, we can do this, etc., etc.
	He's obviously not a doctor.
	Fauci's telling him we can do this, etc.
	I think in Trump's mind, and I'd love to get your guys' take on this, in his head he was like, okay, Because if you guys remember, he was reluctant to shut the country down.
	Extremely reluctant.
	I'll never forget.
	When this was first breaking out in November of 2019, like that's when the first, you know, signs of this Wuhan thing is starting to pop off in China.
	And then next thing you know, it's February, January and they're shutting down Italy.
	I remember Italy was the first major country to shut down.
	And then Spain, then like clockwork, the rest of Europe shut down.
	We're one of the last countries to shut down.
	And Trump was very reluctant to shut down.
	Because he's a businessman first.
	He's like, this is going to absolutely cripple the economy and I'm literally about to leave office and I want to get re-elected.
	This is terrible timing.
	So in his head, he was like, okay.
	Because I've noticed with Trump, he's really big on being able to say, I did this, I did that, etc.
	This is what I did when I was in office.
	You watch any of his interviews, he's very quick to talk about what he accomplished when he was in office, right?
	And all the trials and tribulations he had to deal with while accomplishing these things.
	I think Warp Speed in his head was more about getting the country back open as quickly as possible so that we can continue commerce.
	That's what I think, why he, in his head, he was like, what's the fastest way to get the country back open so that we got these businesses going?
	Oh, Warp Speed?
	Cool.
	The doctor says it's okay?
	Let's fucking do it.
	I want the things back open again.
	So in his head, I think he takes credit for Warp Speed because being able to get the country back open quicker than other places.
	Because if you look at the United States, relatively speaking, we were locked down A lot less than other developed first world countries.
	I know in Canada, you guys were shut down for years.
	In Quebec, we had five and a half months of curfew in 2021, where we couldn't leave our house after 8 o'clock until 6 in the morning.
	At least here in America, though, some places, lockdowns were terrible, like New York and California, etc.
	There were some places that were relatively open the entire time.
	I remember at the height of the pandemic, Georgia was open.
	Atlanta was completely open.
	No mask, no nothing.
	Florida was relatively open.
	Miami was actually the last city to open up.
	But Florida in general, Ron DeSantis didn't give a shit.
	He was like, yo...
	We're just going to stay open.
	It is what it is.
	They all did something, you know, they all had a knee-jerk panic reaction in the beginning.
	The issue with Trump, I'm thoroughly convinced he was probably under the impression he would be impeached and convicted of crimes against humanity if he didn't promote lockdowns.
	Now, the legal argument...
	Yeah, that too.
	And how could you not?
	You'd have all the doctors saying, you are literally killing women and children.
	He had a bunch of pressure on him to close down, because he didn't want to close down.
	I remember him fighting it and shit.
	No, for sure.
	But the legal argument is he didn't close down anything, you know, with the exception of, I don't know, some federally regulated industries, which it was the states that chose to do it, and some states did it harder than others, and so he could wash his hands.
	At the beginning, he said, you know, we better be careful.
	We don't know what's going to happen.
	It's going to be gone by April.
	And then he reversed course.
	Two more weeks.
	But the Operation Warp Speed, it's a very easy thing for him to reframe in a way that is accurate and allows him to stop doubling down on promoting the success of that vaccine.
	The ultimate irony, we live this all backwards, Pfizer knew that they had what would be of the vaccine that they did not announce until after Trump had lost the election because they didn't want him to take credit for it.
	And there's no doubt, and I think there's going to be a reckoning someday, where they're going to have to blame the toxic effects of the vaccine on Trump and...
	And if he doesn't distance himself from this now, all of his taking credit for Operation Warp Speed and that wonderful miracle jab, they're going to say, look, you killed however many millions of people they suspect this jab actually killed.
	Good point.
	Good point.
	Yeah, so they won't give him the credit for getting it out quickly, but they'll give him the credit when the people die.
	Absolutely.
	That's crazy, man.
	Yeah, no.
	Interesting.
	So, yeah, I'm actually...
	I'm going to look up this class action lawsuit and see because a lot of people lost their channels and or got strikes because of COVID, man.
	And the bottom line is they're going to say the same thing.
	It's a private company.
	You agree to the terms and the terms are nebulous, opaque, easily weaponized.
	The easiest thing is create the parallel economy.
	Use them for what they're worth.
	It's like...
	People say YouTube exploits its content creators.
	Well, its content creators can exploit YouTube as well.
	First of all, you make money off of it.
	You'd have to be stupid to say, I'm just going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
	It's the biggest marketplace to reach new users.
	Because it is a search engine.
	Absolutely.
	Owned by Google, the biggest search engine in the world.
	I put out my Sunday afternoon talkie video where I talk about the upcoming live stream.
	That's how people on YouTube are going to discover Viva on Rumble.
	But the easiest thing to do, you've got to start and really support the parallel economy, both by platforms and by products, and wean yourself off of YouTube while using it for what it's good for.
	I agree.
	And that's really what it is, is more of a marketing thing.
	But I genuinely do believe in the next five to ten years, Rumble is absolutely going to explode because I don't see censorship going backwards.
	I see it only getting worse.
	I don't see it becoming like, oh, you know what, we're going to change our minds and be more freedom of speech.
	That's not going to happen unless Elon Musk acquires YouTube and that's not going to happen.
	Well, there are some anti-monopoly lawsuits out there.
	There's one looking to break up Google and YouTube.
	I don't even think if it succeeds, it's going to achieve its goal.
	I mean, these companies don't need to be corporately intertwined in order to know how to work with one another.
	It needs an operating mastermind like an Elon Musk or a Chris Pavlovsky to take over YouTube.
	It's losing its relevance to some extent a little bit, but certainly Rumble.
	My only concern with Rumble is they're going to go for the legislative attempt to take down.
	Yes.
	And I'm concerned also, after Alex Jones is liquidated and they say, well, he can't make money anymore and he's not making enough money that we can garnish.
	By way of, like, you know, satisfying the judgment, anybody monetizing his content on any other platform, we get to seize that.
	Like, I'm trying to think of how they can possibly do that.
	Oh, wow.
	Or pass legislation to say, like, he's not...
	That's a good point.
	He or anybody who's been deplatformed or whatever has a judgment against them, can't raise money on other platforms so they can go after those other platforms.
	It's lawfare not just against the creators, but it's overt lawfare against the platforms and, well, not Chris directly, but Rumble.
	Yeah, no, and that's a good point, and they could do that.
	I mean, for those that are unaware, okay, so as you guys know, the Sandy Hook school shooting occurred, what, back in 2011, 2012.
	Alex Jones, you know, famously denied it, said it was crisis actors, etc.
	He's come out since and apologized about it, said he made a mistake, but he got sued in the state of Connecticut for, I think, $1.5 billion?
	Well, he got sued for, in Connecticut, it was like unlawful corporate practices, unlawful business practices.
	Okay.
	Because the idea was that he was making money off of the tragedy.
	That one, they involved a law.
	I forget what it is offhand, but it was like a business practice marketing advertising law.
	And he was found liable.
	He was found liable by default verdict.
	This is what everybody has to do.
	Please, can you explain that to the audience?
	Okay, here.
	This is going to be good.
	Which camera do I look at?
	I will look at a camera.
	This one right here?
	Yeah, that big one on the left.
	Default verdict is right there.
	It was a default verdict in that there was no trial on the merits.
	What happens sometimes in a lawsuit, you're dealing with a really, really bad defendant.
	He's a naughty man.
	He tears up documents, shreds evidence, doesn't respond to emails.
	Someone suing him says, look, he's frustrated my ability to pursue the claim.
	He's misbehaved so much.
	Court sanction him.
	Sometimes they'll do contempt.
	Other times they'll do striking of motions or removing of motions from the docket.
	And other times they can do something called foreclose from pleading.
	Which is, you've been so bad, you don't get to defend anymore.
	Basically, you're gagged.
	You're tied, your mouth is shut, you can't do anything.
	But the plaintiffs still have to make their case.
	That's the worst.
	I mean, I've practiced for 13-plus years.
	We had one case that, oddly enough, came from America of a defendant who misbehaved so badly, they said, you have to sit in the court, shut your mouth, you don't get to defend yourself, but the plaintiff has to make their case.
	In Alex Jones, they said, you defaulted so badly on your discovery obligations, as in you didn't produce documents that he didn't have.
	You didn't produce records that didn't exist.
	They say, you behaved so badly, you're not only defaulted from pleading, We're finding you liable.
	Period.
	That's it.
	Plaintiffs didn't have to prove their claim.
	They didn't have to make any evidence of defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress.
	They bypassed legal questions, which were legitimate legal questions, statute of limitations.
	Defamation, it's not a claim that exists forever.
	I don't know what the statute is.
	But if you don't file the claim within a certain amount of years of becoming aware of the statements, you don't get to.
	There was that question.
	There's also the question when you're talking about defamation, whether or not it was when you're dealing with a public figure, whether or not the statements were made with actual malice.
	In the Jones case, the question of law becomes, are these public figures, there's a term called Single-purpose public figures.
	Nicholas Sandman, you know, the Covington kid, was never a public figure until that video.
	But he only becomes a public figure for the purposes of that video.
	People can talk about it, say things about it, and they treat him as a public figure for the purposes of that incident.
	And if someone says something wrong, defamatory, to the extent he's a public figure for that particular issue, they've got to prove actual malice.
	That was a question in Sandy Hook as well.
	The question was also whether or not Alex Jones sincerely believed what he said.
	None of this, they didn't deal with any of these legal questions, they bypassed all of them.
	And the judge in Connecticut said, you defaulted so bad that we're finding you liable as a default verdict.
	So let me ask this, did they even serve him though?
	Oh no, he was served, he appeared.
	The proceedings were going on, but from what I recall, they were asking for things like lists of videos that you had on YouTube.
	After he had been deplatformed and all the videos basically removed from his accessibility, they were asking for money that they think he made from the specific reporting on Sandy Hook.
	Bear in mind also, he said stupid things, and I don't apologize for him, but I don't think it leads to this.
	He said stupid things.
	Over the course of 10 years, I think it's like 16 minutes of separate video clips.
	In that, multiple times, he said that the incident occurred, the kids were killed, it's a horrible tragedy, but it's going to be politicized.
	And he said, you know, when you talk about something being a hoax...
	It's an ambiguous term.
	A hoax as in it never happened, a hoax as in it did happen but it's been weaponized, or a hoax as in it's a false flag performed by an op and whatever.
	There's various ways to describe it.
	The bottom line, he said 16 minutes of things over a decade which they put into a montage like they did with January 6th and turned it into what you would think was his bread and butter of broadcasting for a decade.
	Like they did with Joe Rogan.
	So he said stupid things, but they were asking for things that didn't exist or things that he didn't have access to, but they were convinced that they existed and they were convinced that he had access to them.
	And then they said, well, you're not giving it to us.
	Default verdict.
	It's so absurd that at worst, like imagine someone just destroys evidence to the point where they prevent the plaintiff's ability to make their case.
	Yeah.
	We're talking about statements made on air.
	They had all of it.
	What they wanted was that he made millions and tens of millions of dollars off the reporting in particular, which he didn't.
	And I mean, I know this just because...
	Well, yeah, if they were able to make a 16-minute compilation, by definition, that means they have the content.
	Absolutely, they had the statements.
	What else would they have possibly made?
	But the amazing thing is, so they defaulted him in Connecticut, they defaulted him in Texas, and the trials that we saw were- Did he have two separate cases?
	So he had an open case in Connecticut.
	Open case in Connecticut with the Connecticut plaintiffs, then he had a case in Texas with the Texas plaintiffs.
	Plaintiffs in Texas?
	I don't recall offhand who the plaintiffs were, but there were people who resided for the purposes of the claim in Texas.
	That were parents of the children?
	I'm not fresh on that particular detail, but he had cases in Connecticut and Texas.
	One was for the intentional infliction of emotional distress and the Connecticut case.
	And both judges are batshit crazy.
	But the trial that people saw that they think was the trial was only the trial on the quantum after liability had been found as a matter of default verdict.
	So at that point, what were they actually litigating for?
	Were they litigating for how much he would owe at that point?
	Yes, how much they suffered by way of damages.
	Compensatory, punitive.
	So what we saw, because the general public doesn't know this stuff, right?
	No, they think they saw a trial.
	Yeah.
	And it wasn't.
	It was simply...
	It was a kangaroo court show trial.
	I mean, it was literally a show trial where Alex Jones was forbidden, precluded from asserting his innocence, stating that he apologized because he did.
	He was prevented from raising any of the grounds of defense, saying that he didn't have the documents, saying that he was prevented from literally saying things on the stand.
	And then the judge accuses him of saying that this is a show trial as if it could be any more of a show trial.
	But what people saw was not a trial on the merits.
	It was a trial only on the quantum because liability had been found as a matter of default.
	So he was already guilty by the time he was sitting there.
	They're just trying to establish how much money they're going to get out of him.
	Absolutely.
	What is that hearing called specifically if it's not a trial?
	No, you call it a trial.
	It's a trial on quantum.
	It's still a trial.
	Yeah, it's a trial on quantum.
	And I went down to Texas to document it, and the questions they were asking the jury when they were selecting jury for the purposes of establishing quantum were like, you know, do you think $50 million is too much?
	And so they basically...
	That's what they were saying?
	They were asking, like, are you okay with an obscenely insane high award?
	And they picked a jury that basically said, yes, we're okay with that.
	And that's how they get to $1.5 billion.
	Imagine.
	By the way, before I forget this thought, people watched that trial and they said, how the hell was he found liable?
	What we're seeing right now...
	Yeah, they're confused.
	Yeah, and that was evidence on the quantum.
	They didn't even have...
	And people were still doubting the outcome of what they ran through by way of default verdict.
	So it's like people who watched that show trial on The Quantum were convinced of his innocence in the long run, but that wasn't even the object of that trial, which is how absurd and bad the case was.
	Because I did watch portions of it, and I remember him famously going back and forth with the Connecticut lawyer about this, and the lawyer tried to say, well, you gave us your phone, and it actually had everything in there, blah, blah, blah.
	I remember them going back and forth on that.
	Yeah, there was an incident with the lawyer who accidentally...
	Was it Alex that gave his phone and everything on there?
	Or was it the lawyer that gave everything?
	It was Alex who gave it to the lawyer and the lawyer who accidentally transmitted it to the other party.
	I'm going to get mixed up on which state it was.
	Accidentally?
	I know it was Connecticut.
	It was Connecticut.
	That was Norm Pattis.
	He's a great lawyer.
	I had him on the channel.
	They made a mistake.
	And then they got documents, text messages that they then said, oh look, he concealed this from us.
	He's like, no, I gave it to my lawyers and there was a question of whether or not you're even entitled to it.
	There was another issue where they accidentally communicated, Connecticut communicated to the Texas lawyers medical records by accident because they were apparently included in like these tens of thousands of documents that were digitally preserved that they transmitted.
	And then they sanctioned Norm Pattis This lawyer out of Connecticut suspended his license, and that suspension was overturned.
	But the people who watched that said, oh my goodness, how was he even found guilty in the first place?
	And then they came out with that award.
	The FBI agent, who had no kids, no family killed in Sandy Hook, who just responded, he was awarded $90 million.
	Because he gets up on the sand and he's rightly traumatized.
	He's rightly re-entering that level of trauma from the incident.
	Because he responded to the scene.
	Yeah, but he's describing the incident.
	He's not describing what...
	Alex Jones, first of all, that FBI agent was getting called a crisis actor or an actor before Jones even started covering it.
	But you would never know that because they never had a hearing on the merits.
	And so that FBI agent was already being called names, which is the only reason why Alex ever heard of the story in the first place.
	It had already attained a level of internet notoriety, which is how it came to the awareness of Alex.
	He didn't start it.
	It had already snowballed, which is how it came to Alex's attention.
	And this guy, Alex, who sees conspiracies where they exist and sometimes where they don't exist...
	Was floating, you know, floating the ideas and stupid ideas.
	And I don't agree with them.
	I don't adhere to them.
	I just understand when people see a father laughing off camera and then tearing up when he knows the camera's rolling, you know that people either maliciously or sincerely but misguidedly are going to say crisis actor because crisis actors have been used in the past to stage other events.
	And so people, you know, it's called like the sort of the conspiracy trauma.
	Once you understand the degree to which the government has staged things, false flags, lied to in the past, you look at something that happened and you don't even believe your own eyes anymore.
	I do call it conspiracy trauma.
	Just so I make sure I understand this, for the audience, too.
	He was sued by the plaintiffs, the families of the slain children at Sandy Hook.
	He was requested to produce certain documents and videos, etc., that they already had.
	He didn't produce them, so the judge said, you violated Discovery, we're gonna go ahead and just fine you liable anyway.
	Fine you liable.
	They don't have to prove- Without even a court proceeding.
	Without a hearing on- with no evidence.
	You're liable.
	Now we're gonna see how much you have to pay.
	Because they claimed that he didn't produce Discovery.
	He didn't respond to Discovery adequately.
	It's a load of crap.
	I mean, he communicated millions of documents, like millions of documents, text messages, everything.
	They had everything.
	There was nothing that didn't exist.
	It's just that they didn't like what his response was when they had discovery, I guess.
	They needed to circumvent a hearing on the merits because he would not have lost a hearing on the merits.
	Period.
	So they needed to find a way to bypass a hearing on the merits.
	The same way the New York judge, New York nipple judge Angeron out of New York, had to bypass a jury trial in Donald Trump's case.
	because it wouldn't have succeeded on the merits.
	And so it was a show trial by definition.
	Come in, I've already found the guilty man, how much are you going to order him to pay?
	And it was a fabricated, protectual basis to default him, not out of foreclosed from pleading.
	Bear in mind, it's different to say you don't get to plead or defend versus you're liable.
	Hypothetically, I sue you.
	You misbehave.
	And that's it.
	But my contract that I'm suing you over is 15 years old.
	Well, I have to prove my case.
	And if I get to court, even if you're not allowed to defend yourself, and then the judge says, let me see the contract.
	All right, here it is.
	Well, it's 15 years old.
	You don't get to sue on this anymore.
	Well, the fact that you can't defend doesn't mean that I have proven my case.
	In Jones, they found him liable based on this purported...
	With the plaintiffs doing nothing.
	Doing nothing to succeed on the merits, and then they just come in with this show trial for Quantum, where they have one parent after another come in.
	And it's a horror beyond horrors.
	And you have a jury listening to this.
	What do you think they're going to do?
	There are people out there who think Alex Jones had a hand in the killing.
	How do you defend that?
	You can't.
	I mean, you've got to get the Court of Appeal or the Supreme Court to get in at some point and say, due process violations and send it back for trial.
	See if they'll even want to go through a trial on the merits on this.
	It wasn't all of the families of the Sandy Hook victims that sued.
	It was actually just a small amount at the nudging of the FBI. So...
	We saw what happened.
	I mean, I was...
	So I was in actually a Twitter space with Alex when all of this came down.
	Apparently, this...
	And you made a video recording this, and we'll bring everybody up to speed.
	So now we know what happened, right?
	So, year passes by.
	Two years pass by.
	I think this was like last year when this was always going down, where he was in Connecticut, and they were showing out on Law& Order, the Law Network channel, him testifying and everything else like that, going back and forth with the lawyer.
	People get their clips, whatever the fuck.
	Fast forward a year or two now.
	He's doing Infowars, and apparently they break into his place and try to say, shut it down, etc.
	So, yeah, a little more complicated than that, and if anybody thought the first part was complicated, wait until we get into bankruptcy law.
	So, I did a little bit of bankruptcy up in Canada, and once you get involved in bankruptcy, A very litigious creditor can tear open every orifice of your body looking for money, looking for wrongdoing.
	So it's not even clear that getting into bankruptcy was a wise protection, but again, I know, what do I know?
	And I would not give advice for second-guess lawyers.
	He filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, which is reorganization, personally and through InfoWars.
	That's the most common type of bankruptcy, right?
	Yeah, everyone here is Chapter 11.
	Your business is profitable, you know, I'm going to reorganize it.
	Yeah, well you say, like, I owe...
	I owe people $10 million.
	I only make $2 million or whatever.
	Let's just see if they'll settle for X amount of dollars over a certain amount of time so we can forgive it and move on and the business stays a going concern.
	Chapter 11 is restructuring, not liquidation.
	Chapter 7 is liquidation.
	So Alex Jones personally and through Free Speech Systems, they filed for protection reorganization.
	What is Free Speech Systems?
	That's what owns Infowars.
	Oh, okay, that's the holding company.
	Yeah, we'll call it InfoWars.
	So he files for Chapter 11, and they try to negotiate a settlement with these judgment creditors, as we call them.
	They don't outrank secured creditors, so there might be some judgment creditor malpractice lawsuits against their lawyers for pissing away a multi-million dollar settlement that was on the table, from what I understand.
	But so they try to say, like, we're never going to be able to pay you $1.5 billion.
	I said the victims of the Armenian genocide, I believe, were asking for $3 billion by way of reparation.
	So let's just contextualize the astronomically insane award in this case with the reality of the horrors and how that's been quantified in the past.
	So they're trying to restructure, say, like, okay, we'll pay you, I don't know, tens of millions of dollars over 10 years and whatever.
	And that goes on for a while, and then it becomes clear...
	Some people don't want a settlement.
	Some people want a silence.
	They prefer silence.
	They just want to shut Alex Jones up, shut him down.
	And, as I discussed yesterday with Robert Barnes on our show, or as he elucidated, they wanted to own, basically, Alex Jones' personal rights.
	His social media accounts, his literal rights.
	That came out a couple days ago, yeah.
	So that's what they wanted as part of the bankruptcy, to go down to the plaintiffs for the purposes of liquidation.
	So personal social media accounts so that they could do whatever they want.
	Tweet out different stuff for Alex Jones' account.
	It became clear that at least some of the judgment creditors were not interested in a wildly insane settlement structure.
	Regardless, they want them shut down.
	And from what I understand, what happened is the CRO, the court restructuring officer, the guy named McGill, who's being paid $50,000 a month.
	Everybody's sucking at the teeth of this lawsuit.
	It's exploitation of the highest order.
	Wow.
	He apparently came in and said, we're shutting you down.
	We're going to close it up.
	It's done.
	Okay, that's when they showed up.
	That's what Alex was talking about.
	They tried to come in here and shut it down.
	That's what happened, I think, on Friday.
	When he said he was sleeping in the studio Friday, Saturday.
	Yes.
	Then what happens on Sunday, and I don't know if this is the initiating factor that we only found out about afterwards or if it was a response.
	The supplement company, which is controlled by his father, came in and filed an emergency order that said, we want to dissolve as well.
	We're not going to have a settlement.
	Let's just dissolve.
	But secured creditors are outranked by, they outrank judgment creditors.
	So this is more complicated legalese stuff.
	You can lend money, and if you secure your loan through a hypothec or whatever, you're a secured creditor.
	You're going to outrank everybody who's just like a supplier who is owed money here and there.
	And so the secure creditor come in and say, liquidate, but I get paid first.
	And so whatever's left then, the judgment creditors can get that.
	And so that, I think, might have been the strategy.
	I'm not sure.
	But the bottom line, they went to court on Friday where the judge was determining, do they go to Chapter 7 for both free speech and for Jones?
	And the judge said, no, we're going to keep Infowars running because it's a money-making industry business.
	But Alex Jones, we're going to go into liquidation, sell all of his assets, and that's it.
	He'll have his home.
	He'll have his homestead laws in Texas are very good.
	What are our homestead laws?
	It's like you get to keep certain assets, certain property, your home.
	Of course.
	But apparently, in Texas, you could have a big home.
	You could have a big ranch, and it's a home.
	And so they can't seize that.
	I don't know what the limits are of what they can seize or cannot seize, but the bottom line...
	Historically, Texas is a farming state, so that makes sense why that would be there.
	That's a good point.
	It used to be a capital punishment, by the way, to steal someone's cows.
	Fun fact, that's why the Texas Rangers were created.
	Seriously, for cow theft.
	That sounds unduly harsh.
	Yeah, like that's literally why the Texas Rangers were created.
	You can look it up.
	It's hilarious.
	But Texas has very strong protections of the home for that very reason because it's your livelihood, you know, your farming, etc.
	That's how you make your money.
	So that makes sense.
	Florida's got decent laws as well, but Texas apparently is very robust.
	Huge, yeah.
	And so the judge ultimately said, okay, fine, Jones, you liquidate however many millions of dollars they get from your gun collections.
	I think he had some collections that they were selling.
	They'll get a few million bucks.
	Boats, all that other stuff they're gonna take.
	And he'll keep his home.
	He'll keep his ability to make a certain amount of money that I think does not get garnished.
	But what was clear from the hearing, because I was listening to it in real time, the plaintiffs are not gonna stop.
	They're gonna find ways to attempt to undo each and every transaction for the last however many years and claw back everything.
	They want him silenced.
	Yeah.
	And whether or not it's a coincidence that this all happened after Trump got elected and many people, and I suspect the Clinton war machine, blames Jones for Trump getting elected.
	Yeah.
	This is a revenge or a vengeance, not justice.
	You know, it's interesting because I literally tweeted, I was like, this isn't about getting the money back for the victims.
	This is about silencing him.
	Beyond that, it's about appropriating his voice so they can do whatever the hell they want with him.
	Because I look at it like, if you're actually incentivized to get your money back, why would you destroy the business that generates the income that would pay you back what you're seeking?
	That doesn't make sense.
	Not just that, they had a wildly, they might not like it given the amount of the award, but they had a wildly, what's the word, favorable, generous settlement offer from what I understand.
	It's public, but A lot.
	Structured over years.
	And from what I understand and from what I heard during the court proceedings, or at least as far as I understood it, there seems to be friction between the Connecticut plaintiffs and the Texas plaintiffs.
	Because I don't know who gets paid first between the state of Texas and Connecticut.
	But some are saying, you know, we wanted that settlement from what I understand.
	And others are saying, we don't want it.
	And now what's going to happen is they're not going to get it.
	Like, they're not going to get the amount that was on the table.
	And I am predicting that there's going to be malpractice lawsuits or lawsuits from some of the plaintiffs against their lawyers for allowing their lawyers to exact their own politics in this as opposed to representing the best interests of their clients.
	Interesting.
	So we'll see.
	That's the big prediction.
	We'll see if that happens.
	What a nightmare, man.
	Holy shit.
	They've turned Alex Jones into a martyr where...
	This is not...
	I mean, Robert Barnes, he always says this, and he knows Alex much better than I do.
	He's like, Jones was ready to retire.
	And he'd probably be off the air by his own will right now.
	But now they've turned him into a martyr, and they've turned him into a living...
	Was he really actually thinking about retiring?
	I don't know.
	I don't think he...
	I don't know him.
	I've never met him in person.
	But I've had him on the show.
	I've been on his.
	But he might have just retired naturally by now.
	But they've turned him into a martyr and they've turned him into a symbol of political warfare.
	Yeah, because he was yelling, you're saying, I'm going to fight this shit.
	He's like, yeah, you guys are not going to stop me.
	He'll do it for free.
	He'll do it for free or he'll do it in minimal amounts and his voice will be more amplified than ever.
	And so they don't understand.
	The Trump lawsuits, the Trump indictments, they don't understand everything they're doing highlights their corruption and amplifies the voice of the person they're trying to suppress.
	Yeah.
	Did Trump getting convicted, of all 34 counts, what, he raised $7 million?
	$70.
	$70 million.
	In two days.
	If you believe the numbers, people don't want to believe the numbers, but yeah.
	Yeah.
	I mean, hell, okay, let's say $30 million.
	Let's say half.
	$35.
	It doesn't matter.
	That's an insane amount of money.
	And he also converted the black vote quite easily, just like that.
	Yep.
	I see it.
	I predicted this last year, and not because of the indictments.
	It might be superficial to say, well, he's gotten charged, and so now he's going to get the black vote.
	I kind of find that not trivializing what's happening, but what's clear is he's getting the minority vote in a way that he's not gotten before.
	I read a poll today that said he's up to 21% of the black vote, which I predicted last year, but he's quite clearly exposing...
	The corruption of the system and people can empathize with him now, anybody who's ever gone through this, because he's not the first person that this has been done to.
	This has been done to lots of people.
	Yeah.
	They just humanized Donald Trump is what they basically did for the general public.
	From your, I want to say, expertise, do you think the American system of law is, I want to say, flawed?
	Well, okay.
	I won't say from my expertise.
	I'll say from my experience.
	It's fucked up beyond anything I could have ever imagined.
	And the question that I grapple with is, is it worse than Canada?
	I'm not sure that it's worse than Canada.
	It might be, but it's certainly bigger and it's certainly badder.
	The stuff that I've seen happen now is...
	Circus Town.
	It's...
	I mean, people make fun of Putin and they call him an autocrat and a tyrant.
	This is stuff like...
	We don't jail our opponents here.
	Yeah, you do.
	You're trying to do it right now.
	Oh, at least we don't poison them like they do in Russia.
	And I'm not even sure that...
	Putin poisoned Navalny.
	I got my theories about that.
	But it's broken beyond what I ever could have imagined.
	And it's been exposed for the world to see.
	It's atrocious.
	But it's a system that's been broken this way forever.
	And it's just that the people who've been the victim of it, sitting in jail wrongly convicted for 25 years, were poor, disfavored, didn't have the bullhorn, and nobody saw it, nobody cared, and those who did said, well, they must have done something to deserve it.
	And now they understand what's been done to Donald Trump has been done to Hundreds of thousands of other Americans.
	And those are the people who are going to relate to Trump.
	Yeah, the Great Awakening, as Alex Jones' book is.
	So much stuff going on right now.
	It's wild.
	Alright, so I can read some of these chats.
	Speaking of awakening, we have a yacht party.
	In July, man, if you want to stay woke, have fun at the party, and actually enjoy people of success and of greater bounds, creators, type into the actual yacht party.
	Tickets are up right now for sale.
	I'll link down below.
	CastleCobb.tv.
	And we'll be actually doing a...
	We're going to the event in Vegas on 28th.
	Yeah, so it won't be June 28th, guys.
	It's going to be July 12th or 13th is when we're going to do the app party.
	Friday or Saturday, one of those two days.
	So, yeah.
	Okay, so we got Sneeko here.
	WStream, appreciate that.
	Sneeko, I think you got new teeth.
	Yo, come by tonight, by the way, for after hours.
	He got new teeth?
	Yeah, he went to the dentist today.
	Wait, there's nothing worse than cracking a tooth.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	Wait.
	It's the worst.
	It was that fast?
	Yeah, he went to the dentist the next day, bro.
	It's 20-24, man.
	Okay.
	And he streamed it, too.
	Hilarious.
	He got veneers?
	I don't know if he got veneers.
	I think he just fixed the chip tooth.
	Oh.
	Hey, Myron, thanks for all you've done.
	Do you have any advice to help not give a F what haters say about me during my personal IGN to an online fitness coaching page?
	Bro, you just don't care.
	You got to just move on.
	You guys see, if people are talking about you, that means you're relevant.
	Myron, you should 10x the CC fee for the haters that can't get a clue.
	Might as well get something useful out of them.
	Nah, man.
	Like I said, we...
	It is what it is, man.
	People are going to say and do whatever they want to do.
	To young Cliff, I would also take it from the other way.
	Imagine how miserable that person's life is who's shitting on you on the internet to be sitting there shitting on someone on the internet and empathize with how miserable their lives must be in order to get over it and also maybe even feel bad for the person.
	The best revenge for haters is to live a good life.
	Honestly, I don't even know that these idiots make videos on us unless you guys bring it to our attention.
	I don't even know most of the time.
	Nope.
	I'll never forget, we were in, I think it was Vegas, our power slap.
	We're heading from Vegas to go to Romania.
	We were talking to Andrew, and I asked Andrew, how do you do with haters, bro?
	He's like, I don't want to see videos.
	People are talking about me.
	I don't want to say anything.
	Don't send it to me.
	And I was like, it's kind of weird.
	But I thought about it.
	Hold on.
	That's smart because he doesn't want to see any bullshit.
	And I'm like, you live a good life.
	Now I understand why.
	So it makes sense.
	You don't want to see bullshit.
	I don't even know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So guys, stop sending me videos of our ops sending me talking shit about us.
	Like, I don't want to see it, man.
	The goal is to distract you and make you less effective at what you're doing.
	It pisses you off and it's whatever.
	Because we're all human, right?
	So when people sit there and criticize you and try to say you're a scammer or a liar, when you've done everything in your power to be as transparent and as honest with the people as possible.
	I mean, hell, I talk about my real estate.
	I've been doxxed on the real estate that I have just because I share how much money I make, how I do my deals, etc.
	And it's like...
	Come back to bite me and I'm like, okay, so I'm honest and these idiots want to use that against me and say, oh, I'm pocket watch and stuff.
	And it's like, I'm just trying to help people to teach you guys how to invest in real estate.
	All my people I've met over the years, bro, if you don't have a better life than me, you can say whatever.
	I don't care.
	Because at least, like, I know my life is good.
	Is your life good?
	Probably not.
	So that's what haters are for, man.
	Reflection.
	So, it is what it is, man.
	Don't worry about haters, bro.
	They're always going to talk shit.
	Just ignore them.
	Thank you guys for everything.
	You all changed the trajectory of my life.
	Used to watch the sodomite and his pet Tasmanian devil.
	Never been back since WCC. What?
	Who is he talking about there?
	Actually, it's funny.
	They're Quebec, actually.
	They're Quebec.
	Two creators.
	I presume he means a homosexual.
	Every specific stream has their own lingo or chat.
	Who's the Tasmanian devil?
	Don't worry about it.
	Two losers.
	I've never been in court before.
	I'm going as a plaintiff against my ex for larceny.
	I'm currently waiting for a court date to come in the mail.
	I have proof of her admitting to her.
	Actually, any advice, anything I need to know, like what to expect, and do I need a lawyer or not?
	Well, if you're the plaintiff, I hope you got a lawyer, bro.
	Like, are you suing her civilly or is this a criminal case?
	Larcity is a criminal act.
	I'm currently waiting for a court date to come in the mail.
	Don't give legal advice on the internet.
	Hashtag not legal advice.
	Call your lawyer, bro.
	Do get a lawyer, Cam.
	Cam, get a lawyer, because I don't even know if this is a criminal or a civil case here.
	Who else we got here?
	WCanadianFabio, can he talk about the truck drivers during the jab?
	Oh yeah, that was fun.
	Sure, we will talk about that.
	What else we got?
	WRWFresh, shout out to Jocasta, live conversation on X last night.
	Holy shit, it was crazy.
	Fucking WTommy.
	I've always had respect for Tommy and more during his recent pod with you guys, and even way more after that conversation.
	He's brilliant, deadass.
	Yeah, I'm from Jersey.
	Okay, shout out to you, Vilexia.
	Viva, please tell this Fed and Vinny about Garrett Ziegler.
	I think more people need to interview him and Myron would be great at it.
	Who's the Fed?
	Myron.
	Because I used to work in law enforcement.
	So I don't know who Garrett Ziegler is.
	Garrett Ziegler wrote the book called, he's an owner of Marco Polo 501c3.
	He wrote the memo, the report on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
	Oh crap, I could have brought one down.
	Next time I'll see you, I'll bring him.
	He made the memo detailing every aspect of the Hunter Biden laptop.
	Cross-referencing bank accounts, dates of travel.
	It's the most thorough forensic analysis of the laptop ever with all of the evidence out there.
	And he's an amazing lead.
	He's almost like a...
	He's not a Forrest Gump type.
	Is he on YouTube or where's he at?
	He's on Twitter.
	He's just an idiot savant when it comes to the Hunter Biden laptop.
	Make for an amazing interview.
	Speaking of which, Hunter Biden recently just got convicted guilty of all counts on his federal guns trial.
	So, yeah, that was pretty open.
	I knew he was going to lose that shit open and shut.
	That nigga living life, bro.
	Like, bro, you're not going to win that.
	Like, you're a drug user and you have a gun.
	Done, bro.
	Like, that's 18 USC 922 all day.
	What else we got here?
	Damn, I did used to feel that cotton hairball on my throat.
	Okay, that's from Alex the Great.
	And then, David, thank you for being a good human and a good lawyer.
	We need more people that can fix this crooked legal system.
	We need more good men to focus on this never-ending battle while getting paid very well.
	We are only a few generations away from losing all our free speech.
	It's scary, the thought.
	It's a scary thought.
	Myron, thank you for opening all of our eyes to the truth.
	I'm ready to buy the new merch.
	Thank you, FNF. Yes, new merch is going to be coming out soon.
	Don't worry, guys.
	And that's from Carnell's.
	Anything else?
	We're also way closer than several generations away from a total loss of freedom.
	We're like five to seven years.
	Yeah, literally.
	You think we're close?
	The public sentiment has to be a massive blowback to say free speech is cool again and censorship is not cool and if it hurts my feelings, grow the F up and deal with it.
	We're not yet there, but I think we're getting there in the States.
	How do you think we stop censorship?
	How do we go about it?
	I say legally, censorship, how do you stop censorship?
	It's a tough question, I know.
	It sounds simple, but when you actually think about it, like, wait, hold on.
	No, because you have to have companies that are willing to be bold and deal with the hate.
	It's the advertisers that control it.
	I don't know.
	You have to have a shift in the zeitgeist.
	Up in Canada, you have hate speech laws.
	You have gender identity and gender expression as aggravating factors for hate crimes.
	And then you have companies that have to abide by those policies of misgendering.
	So I don't know, but it has to be...
	Grassroots, bottom-up, and then top-down, and somehow they'll meet in the middle and make the change.
	But I think we're getting there.
	It's odd.
	It only occurs to people when they are the ones getting censored.
	When it's their political adversaries, it's all fun and games, and it's the rules of the game, and then it bites them in the ass, and I'm like, oh, that's not fair.
	So it's got to get everybody personally before they get personally invested.
	Yeah.
	I just find it interesting how when Elon Musk took over Twitter, he even said that conservative voices were being restricted 10 times more than the left.
	And he wanted to create a platform for free speech.
	And I applaud him for that because X now is a lot better than it was.
	I'm very active on X now, whereas a couple years ago I wasn't because you would literally get banned for anything on X. It was really annoying.
	And then you've got platforms like Rumble.
	And it's interesting, too, that when I look at Rumble, every big conservative creator is on Rumble, every single one.
	And there's even some liberals on there as well.
	I just think in the next, again, I think in the next five to ten years as...
	Because I think censorship is only going to get worse.
	I think it's honestly just going to get worse.
	And the enforcement.
	The enforcement is going to get much more effective.
	When everything goes digital, it's going to be much easier to...
	Shut you down.
	Shut you down.
	I mean, in Canada, you know, segwaying into the trucker convoy a little bit.
	Yeah, please go ahead.
	You know, when they froze bank accounts in the absence of any conviction, in the absence of any court order, when they deplatformed people, I mean, they did in the States a little bit as well, but...
	It's the digital control is going to ensure full compliance, and so you need to have sort of a digital charter of rights, which we don't seem to have yet.
	I think the number one thing, banking should be deemed to be a utility that cannot be denied from somebody.
	The ultimate...
	The insanity of this is you have serial killers in Canada.
	Paul Bernardo, who was in jail, they could have bank accounts.
	But a trucker or a protester has their bank account frozen.
	Jeremy McKenzie, leader of Diagon, a meme internet world, gets deplatformed and can't open up a bank account.
	I mean, you know, interesting.
	You look at someone like Russell Brand, right?
	They demonetized him on YouTube and they ran his name through the mud with zero evidence.
	Some girl comes up and says, I was assaulting, blah, blah, blah.
	No police reports have ever been filed.
	No criminal investigation has been done.
	Nothing.
	But he gets demonetized on YouTube and gets his name ran through.
	Meanwhile, we see footage of Diddy beating up Cassidy in a hotel.
	And his music videos are all still monetized and he's still chilling on YouTube.
	He's still on Instagram.
	He's not canceled anywhere.
	It's just incredible to me how there is selective punishments depending on who you are and what you talk about.
	And then if you look into it, you know, what did Russell Brand do prior to being these allegations coming at him?
	Well, he exposed the entire...
	A pharmaceutical cabal of them making a bunch of fucking money on the jabs.
	He turned on Hillary.
	I mean, I remember the video where he was talking about stuff about Hillary that sort of others who were ahead of the curve knew already.
	Worse, though, than just demonetizing Russell on YouTube, they then went after Rumble.
	And they said, are you allowing this guy to monetize on your channel because of out-of-court statements that have nothing to do with the content?
	It's selective prosecution of sorts, applied mutatis mutatis, but it's lawlessness.
	This is how communism works.
	They go after their ideological adversaries because they can interpret the rules that way.
	The congressional subpoenas.
	Steve Bannon, convicted for contempt of Congress for not respecting that bullshit Jan 6 subpoena.
	Peter Navarro, charged convicted.
	Merrick Garland refuses to abide by a subpoena, gets found in contempt, and then the assistant attorney general says, yeah, well, we're not going to press charges because, you know, we don't have to supply this.
	You didn't have a legislative need for the documents.
	It's...
	It's just, there's no other word for it.
	I feel it's a cliche, communism.
	It is weaponizing the law to go after your political adversaries, your ideological adversaries, your corporate adversaries.
	And it's working surprisingly well, but hopefully, you know, everyone's getting fed up.
	If they don't get you that way, they lobby to silence you.
	Like, what I've noticed, you know, and Chris talked about this on A Space one time.
	Different governments do different approaches, right?
	So in some places where free speech is not a thing, they just turn you off outright, right?
	They're just like, whatever, it is what it is, we're going to just silence you, right?
	But in America, what they do is they have these companies like the ADL and Media Matters or whatever, and they just write a hit piece on you.
	And they say, did you know that XYZ platform allowed this individual to say this comment about these people and promoting hate speech and they're monetizing on that platform?
	And these platforms get terrified because that looks bad for advertisers.
	And what do they do?
	They either cancel you, they demonetize you, whatever it may be.
	So that's how they get around the free speech thing in the United States, whereas in other places, they just shut you down.
	No, no, and the ADL does the dirtiest of the dirtiest.
	No, this was Media Matters that did this, where they basically fabricate the results.
	They write hit pieces on Rumble every day.
	Yeah, write the hit pieces, get the advertisers to pull their money, and then you wonder, like...
	I say the ADL. The ADL is the Anti-Defamation League.
	They've done more to generate conspiracy theories and propagate negative stereotypes despite what they purport to want to fight.
	The fastest way to convince someone that they're right is tell them they can't say it.
	But it's going to offend specific classes of people.
	You can't misgender.
	You can't use Christ is King.
	That is the fastest way to confirm in the minds of those people who would say those things that they're right in their beliefs and they're right for saying it.
	Can you imagine?
	First of all, I'm going to believe that an advertiser is not going to want to advertise where the eyeballs are.
	I'm not talking about a decapitation video, which was the first adpocalypse on YouTube.
	Controversy?
	Bullshit.
	You have paid product advertisement in Pulp Fiction, in horror movies.
	Don't give me this crap that they don't want to advertise next to controversial characters on the internet.
	Bullcrap.
	They want where the eyeballs are, except when it comes to politics where they need to control the narrative.
	And it's about control.
	It's not even about money anymore.
	That's the most dangerous thing.
	It's not about money.
	Because they will go ahead and demonetize a huge channel or cancel a huge channel because it doesn't align with a certain narrative.
	And they got enough money to do it.
	When you're a monopoly, like we were discussing before, it doesn't matter.
	So I think it's just about moving intelligently and understanding what you can say on certain platforms, what you can.
	And this is why I love Rumble so much because we don't have to worry about any of that crap with Rumble.
	It's the closest to free speech that you're going to get.
	And Elon and Rumble, I think, if I'm not mistaken, have a lawsuit against Media Matters and ABL. Yeah, they're both...
	Yeah, they're both doing them.
	I forget which one...
	Media Matters has to downsize significantly, too, so fuck them.
	Oh, they're the ones who just announced a bunch of layoffs.
	Yes, Media Matters.
	Media Matters was the one that ran the...
	They basically falsified the results, or at least inorganically generated results to make it look like it's a widespread problem to get people to pull advertising dollars from Twitter, and they're going to trial soon.
	They deserve to be bankrupted, and they deserve to be held personally liable for tortious interference with contracts.
	That's exactly what they're doing.
	It's like the Oberlin case where you're basically calling someone wrongly a racist just because you can get away with it, interfering with their business, trying to get them shut down, and then they get caught, and then they complain.
	No, this is Elon weaponizing his big machine against us, small little 501c3 horse crap.
	They know what they're doing when they do it, and they deserve to get...
	Not only that, they go the next level.
	What they purposely did was they went on Twitter and they took accounts that were Nazi accounts allegedly to them.
	And what they did was they would look at the thing and look at what advertisements would show up.
	Then they would refresh the tweet and see what other advertisers came in and they just went ahead and did that multiple times.
	And they contacted all those advertisers.
	Are you aware of the fact that your advertisement appears next to this Nazi propaganda?
	I think it was even more insidious than that.
	They took newly created or fresh accounts that I think didn't have certain restrictions on them, or ad restrictions, or they just followed these wildly offensive accounts and big brand accounts.
	And you do that and then just refresh, refresh, so that you artificially, because nobody acts like that on Twitter.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And so they follow some Nazi account and then follow big brand.
	And then one day it pops up and they screen grab it and say, look, this is a big problem.
	Yeah.
	It's nothing shy of tortious interference.
	And it's wild.
	Like when Elon bought Twitter, it was all out warfare in all respects.
	You know, the Delaware lawsuit where they deny him his bonus, the threats of investigation, both domestic and abroad in Brazil.
	And then these these bullshit hit pieces where they try to put Twitter out of business.
	They try to put Rumble out of business.
	At some point, these these flipping coward advertisers are going to have to say, we're here to make money and we're here to reach eyeballs.
	And barring the most extreme stuff, because there's already protocol involved in this, we're not going to cave to this vocal minority group of tyrants.
	That's trying to control what everyone can hear, see, and consume.
	But they don't have that courage yet.
	You know, it's crazy to me because it's like, did they not learn from Gillette when they did that whole toxic masculinity push back in 2019, 2020?
	Did they not learn from Budweiser's mistakes of bringing Dylan Mulvaney in to try to push it and ostracize their entire customer base?
	I don't get what...
	Like, are advertisers not waking up and realizing that Americans are sick and fucking tired of being censored, being told to be politically correct, etc.?
	Like, people don't want to sit there and be told what they can and can't say all the time.
	Like, advertisers need to wake up, grow a set of nuts, and realize, hey...
	It doesn't matter where the fuck you put your ads at if the content creator is generating views.
	You're gonna go ahead and be able to make some money off of that.
	But they're sitting here saying, oh, we don't wanna...
	Because if you look at it, who are they targeting most of the time saying that they're bigots and offensive and all this other stuff?
	It's most of the time conservative creators.
	But they've been exploding in popularity the past five to 10 years.
	Since Trump took office in 2016, I've seen an explosion in people going more and more conservative.
	And it's not necessarily that they're going more and more conservative.
	I think it's that the left continues to go more left.
	The Overton window has shifted.
	Tim Pool used to be considered a liberal.
	Let that sink in, guys.
	I think anybody who speaks, by definition, you become ultra, far-right, MAGA, Republican, if you say you can't chemically castrate children.
	They can't consent, period.
	Now you're a bigot.
	The amazing thing is, it had to do with Dylan Mulvaney.
	Oh gosh, I forgot my thought.
	It'll come back in a second.
	No worries.
	But no, it's...
	Oh, hold on one second.
	It's going to drive me crazy.
	With Dylan Mulvaney...
	Oh, no.
	Pulling sponsors?
	No, but they themselves partner with some of the most scandalous perverts on Earth and then just want to wash their hands when they do it.
	But the second anybody says something remotely controversial, they then pretend that they're ideologically aligned with the people who they advertise.
	I mean, it's such a stupid idea to say that I am somehow morally and contractually obligated to adhere to the ideology of someone I'm advertising with.
	You're not talking about a brand sponsorship where, like, the spokesperson becomes the face of the company.
	You're talking about a passive ad on a chain.
	We'll get there, but the problem is we might have reached something of a critical mass where when Bud Light went stupid with Dylan Mulvaney, even if it was an insignificant...
	What a stupid decision.
	Stupid.
	And then people were like, well, and I was part of it.
	I was like, I'm not going to buy Bud Light.
	I'm going to buy Stella Artois.
	And then someone was like, congratulations, jackass.
	It's owned by the same company.
	I was like...
	It's gotten so big.
	Monopolies.
	I mean, basically, monopolies where you have the inability to effectively boycott if there's certain products that you want to consume.
	And so it goes back to the parallel economy.
	You've got to really sort of do a due diligence on your companies.
	Public Square is a company publicly traded.
	They've partnered with Rumble.
	They're amazing.
	Create just a place where I know that there's certain...
	I don't even want to know their politics.
	I just want to know that they're not suppressors of free speech for ideological dogs.
	Just tell me that you're not going to do certain things, and I'll be very happy to buy your product.
	I think everyone should have the ability to speak.
	There's people that I disagree with on a bunch of different issues, but I don't think they should ever be canceled just because they have different viewpoints, whether how radical left or how radical right they might be.
	It's like you should – this is the United States of America.
	The First Amendment is very important, and we need to stand by it.
	But what's ended up happening is these platforms become monopolies, and then they say, well, we're a privately owned business.
	We do what the fuck we want to do, which I guess I understand.
	But at some point, you have a duty to uphold – if you're an American business and you have the monopoly on people being able to create continents, et cetera, and reach a bunch of people, You got to have some level of duty to be able to adhere to certain amendments and certain laws.
	But, you know, it is what it is.
	They're always going to say, well, it's a private company.
	Well, it's a private company until you realize that, you know, the head of the FBI has now infiltrated the company and basically using it.
	As an Operation Mockingbird 2.0.
	Twitter, before Elon, I don't care that on paper it's a public company.
	It was an intelligence apparatus and a government apparatus.
	It was.
	It was an undisclosed extension of the government.
	It was.
	And that's what fascism in its purest sense is.
	You have the merger, the marriage, the incestuous relationship.
	Facebook too.
	Absolutely.
	And Zuckerberg comes out and says, yeah, we suppressed the Hunter Biden story, but it was still accessible.
	It was just radically diminished.
	That's called doing the government's bidding.
	And so when you have a private enterprise doing the government's bidding, they become government agents and they become subject to the Constitution.
	Damn.
	That's so true because, I mean, when I was an agent, right, let's say I have an informant, he can't entrap people.
	Like, if he does something and he entraps them, well, even though he's not a government employee, he's acting on the behalf of the government.
	He's still considered a government agent.
	So, yeah, that's a good point.
	If you're over here doing the government's bidding and doing what they say and suppressing certain things or whatever, you've effectively become the government.
	So guess what?
	Now you've got to adhere to government regulations and rules.
	It is at issue right now.
	It's in Biden v.
	Missouri, which is one of the other big cases that's going on that deals with the government interference or coercion or involvement.
	That guy's suing, is it the state attorney?
	It's the state attorney general of Missouri.
	At Missouri, Louisiana, I forget what state.
	He's suing Media Matters too.
	That's good.
	These companies, they deserve to have to pay out the wazoo for what they've done.
	Dude, you know how many lives these idiots have destroyed?
	They're more than happy to.
	When it comes to the Jan Sixers and the ones who take their own lives because of the process, These evil scoundrels are sitting there laughing and saying that's one less ideological adversary that we're going to have to deal with.
	They've written so many hit pieces on Rumble.
	They've written hit pieces on us, Russell Brand, Sneeko, Nick Fuentes.
	Every single thing, on everybody.
	Anyone that is on Rumble, it's like there's Steven Crowder.
	They've written hit pieces on everybody.
	I'm sure they've probably written some on you.
	Radical lawyer, probably.
	I'm a good Canadian boy.
	Alice Jones?
	The thing is, it's almost like they create this world where it's, by definition, you end up on Rumble, you are an extremist, period.
	Yeah!
	But no, I've had...
	That's what they say, yeah.
	One of the reasons why I relinquished my law license up in Quebec is I was paying $3,000 a year so that idiots can file...
	Anonymous bar complaints because they think my tweets are mean.
	And this is what Jordan Peterson's going through.
	He puts out mean tweets that says Ellen Page found a criminal doctor who cut off her breasts and it used to be that pride was a sin.
	And then they say, well, the order of psychologists doesn't like what you have to say and he's being subjected to a re-education camp.
	But it's like, no, it's by definition.
	Did they strip his license from him yet?
	Not yet.
	No, he has to go to re-education.
	I don't know what the status is.
	And they will.
	He doesn't need his license.
	Yeah, I think he refused.
	I don't know.
	No, I think he said, well, I think he has to go, and then he was going to try to record it, but I don't think he's going to get to do that.
	I have to do a follow-up.
	I haven't heard an update on that story.
	Someone in the chat, maybe if you guys know what the deal is with that.
	If I'm not mistaken, I think they're moving to strip him of it, because he refused to say, I'm not going to go back, but...
	Maybe someone here in the chat knows better, because I haven't kept up with that.
	And yeah, that's what blew him up, actually, was in Canada.
	He just refused to use pronouns.
	He was like, I'm going to call you Mr.
	and Miss, whatever the fuck.
	And they'll call that, at some point in time, they'll call that promoting genocide.
	I say it, it's almost like a sick joke.
	Well, people consider that to be a form of genocide.
	And we talk about genociding the transgenders by not recognizing pronouns.
	And Canada is putting up this bill now called the Online Harms Act, which seeks to increase the penalty for certain hate crimes to life in prison.
	There's one where if you promote or advocate genocide, you could be punishable by life in prison.
	But by their definition, simply not using a pronoun is promoting genocide.
	Who the hell knows how it's going to get interpreted?
	And the unpopular argument that I've been raising is some people are using the from the river to the sea expression, and others are going to say, well, that's promoting genocide.
	So the very same, you know, to some extent you're going to have these overlapping forces where other people are going to say, yeah, I'm for censorship, but now I want to say something, and holy shit, from the river to the sea might be promoting genocide.
	I might be going to jail for life.
	It's a wildly exaggerated example.
	We're saying this is where we're going.
	This is where it's at in Canada.
	It hasn't become law yet.
	Yeah, but America's next, though.
	Well, I mean, California and New York are following Canada's example, and they're the big states with big influence.
	But it trickles down.
	But you know what's scary?
	That means whatever you said in the past, Canada will be used against you in the future.
	And that's one of the provisions of the law, where it said if you have access to delete a post or a social media post and you don't, and it gets re-shared, that counts as republication for the purposes of the law.
	That's wild.
	It's Orwellian and people don't even know because people just want to live their lives and be left alone.
	I was just listening to the famous scene from Network.
	I was like, can you just leave me alone in my living room?
	And that's all that people want.
	But then while they're asking to be left alone, their freedoms and their lives are being stolen from them.
	Yeah.
	From an overbearing government.
	And they don't even know it.
	When I saw what happened to Andrew Tate, when they went back to his old videos and brought him up to judge him on this future...
	Sex trafficking.
	I was like, wow, this is a precedent of what's coming in the future.
	It's scary, man.
	It's what was done with Jones.
	I mean, Jones was the canary in the coal mine.
	And it's the most amazing thing, how they went after tape.
	People are convinced that they don't like people and they have no bloody idea why.
	And they say, well, I've seen a few clips.
	Yeah, people say stupid things, and one is not condemned for the rest of their lives based on the stupidest things they've ever said.
	There's certain things that you can do that are irredeemable, but those are very few and far in between.
	But they go after Tate, and then Tate becomes popular.
	Tate becomes, I'll say conservative, whatever.
	Tate becomes a political adversary, and then, lo and behold...
	Lawfare in Romania.
	It's like people make a joke about the Matrix coming after you and it sort of becomes a meme or a trope.
	But my goodness, it certainly pans out to be accurate.
	Something's there.
	We've seen it happen with people like Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, etc.
	I mean, if you don't believe that having certain viewpoints puts you under the crosshairs, I don't know what to say because it's definitely real.
	I believe in the future is going to be Foson Counts.
	Cell phone is going to be watched, can't travel, and as well, social media.
	So, at that point, what do you do?
	You can't do anything.
	Well, you want to get blackpilled at that point, or super cynical at that point, people turn to violence.
	Or they kill you.
	Well, I think they would rather you turn into the monster that they wanted you to be from the beginning so they can then say, look at these.
	See?
	He was violent.
	We were right all along.
	I have to look into the Ted Kaczynski story because I know that there's more to that than I definitely know that I understand.
	But this is like the toughest thing is not to become the monster that they want you to become because these are all acts of provocation.
	They want to create the extremists so they can then rely on the acts of the extremists To enforce more laws and expand their own power.
	I was literally talking about this on a space.
	I was telling people, like, you don't sit here and we're not going to take it back with trying to do some violent upheaval.
	That's stupid.
	What we got to do is use our platforms.
	Use platforms like X and Rumble, etc.
	Get our voices out there because people are slowly waking up.
	They are waking up.
	Maybe not this election cycle because we're focusing on getting Trump in, but after that, etc., people are waking up and realizing that the bullshit is going on.
	And platforms like Rumble and X are helping that.
	So it's...
	We can absolutely get these clowns out of office and get the guys in that we need to get if we're able to build up enough influence, unite people that way because they want you to do the stuff on January 6th, call you a violent insurrectionist, put you in jail, et cetera, and silence you because they know once they put you in jail, you can't say nothing.
	So you don't give them what they want.
	You use your influence, you use your mouthpiece, you use your brain, and you get these guys out of office to put the people in that we need to put in legally.
	I actually disagree.
	I don't think you could get them out of office.
	What I think is when you tweet and put yourself out there like that, they know who you are, and they just target you.
	However, if you're smart about it, you work from the inside out.
	You become one of them, and you work from the inside.
	That's what I think.
	That is the operating theory as to why Elon brought in the CEO. Yes.
	Has a Y in it.
	What's your name again?
	I can't remember your phone name, but...
	Well, I think they could be voted out of office because I think you can...
	The expression is you don't need to...
	Wake up the sheep.
	You need to mobilize.
	You don't need to wake up 100% of the sheep.
	You need to mobilize 10% of the lions.
	Something along those lines.
	I've screwed it up, but that's the idea.
	You just need to get a certain critical mass, and it doesn't need to be that much to affect the change.
	But the problem is you've got to avoid the temptations, and you've got to, on the one hand, call out the feds.
	No pun and no meme here.
	You call out the re-epsis.
	You don't listen to the re-epsis.
	Also, you've got to watch for the Operation Co-Intel Pro type.
	Anyone that's advocating for violence, like they're an idiot.
	Advocating for violence or creating infighting.
	You don't have to agree with everything everybody says in order to be ideologically aligned on the most important things.
	Creating infighting among ideological allies is something they've been doing forever, something the FBI and CIA has been doing for a long time, and I see a lot of it today.
	And so the question is...
	That's smart.
	Well, no, it's fantastic.
	Divide and conquer.
	That way you don't have to do all the dirty work.
	You just show up, plant some seeds, and you just watch it fall apart.
	Absolutely.
	You watch people scratching each other's eyes out on the internet, and then you have fights between...
	Big, influential individuals, influencers, platforms, and then when it says, look at these people, they can't even get along among themselves.
	Yeah, that's how you win.
	Are we reading some chats here?
	Yeah, read some chats, and then we'll close out here.
	Hope you guys are enjoying the podcast, by the way.
	Hi, AQ Conversation here.
	With Viva Frye.
	Hey, FNF. Much respect at what you guys do.
	Hey, Maren.
	How do I find like-minded guys in Canada are a really well country?
	Don't worry, bro.
	We are literally in the process.
	I got, I think, 15 cities.
	We need to get Toronto next.
	We're going to go ahead and have Castle Club Generals, man, and we're going to be doing meetups and everything else like that.
	I'm going to do a meeting with the generals first, then we're going to introduce them to you guys probably Wednesday is what I'm thinking.
	Last week we had really bad storms, etc.
	I couldn't do it because we...
	Yeah, that was a whole long story.
	But yeah, we were flooding down here in Florida.
	Can you ask Vivo about the Citizens United case and how the Clintons won a case of paying someone off while they're convicting Trump for the same thing?
	Citizens United, I can't comment on it.
	I have to refresh my memory on it.
	If the second half of the question is, they won a case paying someone off while they're convicting Trump for the same thing.
	Basically like Trump did, yeah.
	Well, I'm not sure if that's referring to the Steele dossier, which is Hillary Clinton and the DNC literally did what they accused Trump of having done with Stormy Daniels.
	Really?
	Campaign finances to produce opposition research, which was a lie of a document.
	It wasn't opposition research.
	It was disinformation.
	They used campaign finances to pay off the steel dosi, which they knew was bullshit.
	They used their Sussman lawyer, his name was Sussman, to feed it to the FBI. Foreign on behalf of the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
	He billed them for the meeting.
	FBI leaks it to Yahoo.
	Yahoo publishes it so the FBI can say, oh look, this steel dossier shows Trump connections to Russia so we can go get a secret FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page.
	And they concealed the payment.
	And it was discovered.
	And all the...
	What Satan herself got was an $8,000 fine and the DNC got a $133,000 fine.
	It was literally- Trump changed for them.
	They punished what they don't like.
	No, but it was literally what they accused Trump of.
	Trump did not pay for the Stormy Daniels payment with campaign finance, campaign funds.
	So that's a material distinction.
	Technically, it was the lawyer that paid out of his own pocket.
	Michael Cohen paid out of his own pocket.
	That's a big reason why he's so mad at Trump.
	He's like, bro, pay me back my money.
	He wasn't campaign funds.
	He did it.
	He did it.
	It's just anybody who followed that.
	Nobody knows what a ridiculous trial that was, but nobody could watch that trial live.
	So you had to follow that trial only by live tweets.
	Or you had to be in New York in the courtroom watching it.
	I mean, this is how they conceal the injustices so that nobody knows what happened during that case and what was the outcome.
	He was convicted on all 34 counts.
	And then you get Michael Cohen coming out and, you know...
	He was like the star witness.
	Him and Stormy Daniels.
	Two individuals that pretty much have no credibility.
	Michael's a whole L, bro.
	How is he still...
	He's the worst person, among the worst people on earth.
	He admitted on the stand...
	Okay, you have to understand this.
	This is how absurd it is, but nobody who wasn't following tweets pretty much knows this.
	He was on the stand testifying that Trump directed him to pay that money to Stormy Daniels.
	That money consisted of $420,000.
	There was like $50,000 to a tech company called Red Hat.
	No, not Red Hat.
	It was a tech company.
	There was the one whatever to Stormy.
	It was like 120, 130.
	130 to Stormy.
	And he had to pay him more because it was going to be looked at his income.
	Yeah, and there was his bonus in there.
	He stole $30,000 from that, which was 30 of the 50 that he was supposed to pay to the tech company.
	So his theory, and the jury bought it, is that Trump organized, orchestrated this payment, from which Michael Cohen admitted on the stand he stole $30,000.
	It makes no sense because it would be like Trump authorizing him to steal his own money, which he didn't do, which is patently evidence that he never authorized the payment in the first place.
	Michael Cohen did it, stole from it, admitted it on the stand, and he's off scot-free and he's the star witness.
	He's a criminal, he's a perjurer, he's a liar, he's a thief.
	He admitted to all of this on the stand and Trump is the one that gets convicted for the acts of his criminal lawyer.
	I mean, the actual criminal who happens to be a lawyer.
	Incredible.
	Incredible.
	Hey man, it's Pattern.
	Jason Todd, 91.
	50 bucks.
	Appreciate that, Jason Todd.
	Shout out to you.
	Please get Dan.
	And guys, for you guys that are sending in these rumble rats, et cetera, guys, join Council Club, man.
	It's only 35 bucks to join.
	Join in there, man.
	Become a part of the community, man.
	We got 6,600 plus y'all ninjas in there strong.
	We want to get to 10,000.
	And you can add memes and gifs.
	Yeah, you can add memes and gifs and you can go ahead and super chat and it'll be way funnier.
	So, yeah.
	Okay, Nav Singh goes, please get Dan Peña on the show.
	Google him.
	If you don't know, then you'll remember.
	He would be an incredible guest.
	He's like a tycoon of sorts.
	Kind of like Grant Cardone, but...
	Oh!
	He always wears the three-piece suits.
	I know what you're talking about.
	Really hardcore guy.
	Let's see.
	If he wants to come on, bro, we might be too controversial for him.
	I think...
	Just these?
	Okay.
	RL. What the fuck did Ryan Dawson say about you?
	Look it up on Twitter, bro.
	Greg.
	Said a bunch of stuff.
	That means Montreal's in the house.
	Salutations.
	That's from RL. Oh, okay.
	Shout out to RL. And that's it?
	Okay, cool.
	One more just came in right now.
	Okay, we'll read the one that came in.
	From Castle Club?
	Yes.
	Okay, what do you say on Castle Club?
	Myron.
	Oh yeah, Super Javi says, Myron, no Phoenix, Arizona, Castle Club General.
	No, I don't think we have one yet.
	But you're going to have to talk to Jocasta and DL Saint.
	They're doing the vetting for generals.
	You've got to have your shit together.
	You can't just be like, you know.
	But if you've got your stuff together, then yeah, definitely I'll put you in touch with DL Saint.
	Yes.
	Must be together.
	Yeah, you've got to have your shit together.
	You can't be a brokey and expect to lead guys in our community.
	Okay.
	Viva, thank you so much for coming down to hang out with us, brother.
	Can you tell the people where they can find you and, yeah, any new projects coming up?
	I'm going to go live and rant and scream tomorrow throughout the week.
	Viva Fry on Rumble, YouTube, but we favor Rumble.
	The Viva Fry on Twitter and VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com where there's a ton of exclusive stuff for supporters and we have an amazing, massive community on Rumble.
	On locals, I'm sorry.
	Yeah.
	And guys, locals and Rumble are one.
	So, like, if you rock with locals, then you're supporting Rumble and you're supporting free speech.
	And guys, this is, you know, Rumble is constantly getting attacked by governments.
	I mean, Russia recently shut down Rumble.
	Brazil has been shut down.
	France.
	Actually, let me rephrase.
	They basically wrote letters saying, we need you to cancel XYZ Creator.
	Rumble said, pound sand, we're not canceling that crater, we're just going to turn ourselves off in your country.
	France, Brazil, Russia, recently Russia.
	And I think China, they were off China.
	I don't think they've been on China.
	The irony is just, you know, the countries that are now banning Rumble, or not banning, but causing Rumble to pull.
	Yeah.
	France never banned them.
	They just said, you pull RT. Yeah.
	And he said, no, we'll pull from France.
	That's how it's been every time.
	It's like, they basically sent a letter saying, we need this crater gone, and Rumble says no, and then they're like, well, whatever, and then Rumble says, you know what, fuck you guys, and they pull out the country.
	Yeah.
	So...
	Hey, Rumble really stands for free speech.
	When the British government said, hey, is Russell Brand monetizing on your platform?
	Because they did that to YouTube and obviously they caved and demonetized immediately.
	Rumble stood firm and said, fuck off.
	And they didn't care.
	So, guys, you gotta stand behind the platforms that stand behind your favorite creators.
	Whether it's us, Russell Brand, the Tate Brothers, Steven Crowder, Sneeko, etc.
	Viva Frye.
	We're all on Rumble because Rumble is the home of free speech, guys.
	I'm trying to explain this to you guys.
	Like...
	YouTube and these other platforms are not free speech, man.
	So, you gotta support free speech.
	Support the game.
	Yeah, bro.
	There's a reason why every big conservative creator, even guys that aren't banned yet, have a platform on Rumble.
	Even the Daily Wire are over on Rumble.
	So, that tells you what you need to know.
	But anyway, guys, go check them out, man.
	Obviously, fantastic legal breakdowns here.
	Super haiku conversation.
	I learned a bunch on this show.
	I hope you guys did, too.
	Check them out on Romo and on YouTube as well.
	And thank you so much for coming, bro.
	Mike, thank you very much.
	Thanks for coming, man.
	It's fantastic.
	It's good stuff, bro.
	Nice to meet you.
	He is Vivian Fry.
	We'll catch you guys back here on After Hours in a little bit.
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	Peace!
	Peace!
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