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May 1, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
02:11:44
Sulaiman Ahmed Meets Fresh&Fit
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Thank you.
What's up guys?
Welcome to Freshman Podcast, man.
We're here with a special guest in the house to the mind.
Let's get into it!
Let's go!
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We'll be right back.
Also, we're going to be doing a purge on YouTube.
We're probably going to be removing a bunch of videos, guys, up until February.
So get ready and go to Rumble, okay?
All of our videos are going to be up on Rumble, rumble.com slash freshenfit.
And we're only going to be able to post certain things on YouTube.
It is what it is, man.
I mean, I could already see some of you guys could tell what's going to happen here.
We got 3,000 plus y'all on Rumble, only 1,100 on YouTube.
You guys already know we're going to have to go to Rumble in the middle of this conversation here.
But I think it's a very important dialogue that needs to be had.
And we're going to be adding new segments as well today.
Yes.
New segments as new shows for Fresh and Fit.
Yes, for sure, for sure.
You know, adapting and overcoming, guys.
It is what it is.
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All right.
Guest of honor.
We got a special guest in the house.
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, my friend.
I know who you are.
Obviously, we've communicated quite a bit on X, aka Twitter.
But the audience might not know who you are.
Can you introduce yourself to the people?
Yeah, of course.
I'm Suleiman Ahmed.
I'm quite big on Twitter.
I've got a significant following, both on...
Half a million.
Huge.
Congratulations on that, by the way.
Thanks for that, bro.
I appreciate it.
So that's on Twitter, tweeting, and then obviously Twitter Spaces, I'm quite big as well, so I probably run the first and second biggest platforms on Twitter Spaces.
So as Elon dominates and makes it a lot more bigger, I'm in a decent place to take over.
So that's my social media background.
I've only been on it for like a year, so I've been blessed to basically, a year and a bit, I've been blessed that I blew up so quickly and got to half a million in such a short period of time.
Yeah, that's in terms of social media.
In terms of overall background, obviously, I've got a degree in law, which is like a BA in the United Kingdom.
I've got, and then I did a conversion into maths.
I've got an MA in philosophy.
So that's my expertise.
My expertise is actually philosophy and theology before I became big on Twitter.
Okay.
So yeah.
And where are you from in particular?
I know the audience is probably trying to figure out from your accent where you're from, specifically in the UK. Well, the peeps know I'm from the north of England.
So yeah, we're dominating, we're taking over Twitter.
Nice.
From the north.
Which is close to Scotland, because I was able to, like, I was in my head, like, does he have a little bit of Scottish background or something?
So how far are you from, like, Scotland?
It's like about 100 miles away from Scotland, but I'm in the northeast of England, so we're more closer to Scotland than we are in London, as an example.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Only 100 miles, okay.
Do you have to fly over or can you drive over?
Is there a bridge?
No, I just drive over.
You can drive over, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
I don't know how you live there, bro.
It's depressing over there, man.
Well, the irony is that whenever I come to America, I love it, right?
It's just amazing, the weather, the people.
It's awesome, right?
And then I was like, and you guys have got, well, had free speech, so we'll talk about that in Rumble.
We'll talk about that, what just happened.
It's over, guys.
No more free speech.
Wink, wink.
Congress has passed something that we'll talk about on Rumble.
So...
Okay, so you grew up there.
Would you consider yourself like an Islamic scholar?
You grew up by Shaikh, so I wasn't sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, look, that was my background.
I've written a number of articles and books in that field.
But then when I came to Twitter, I had this psychology that, look, I'm not going to really go into the Islamic issues.
I'm going to just deal with politics and social and cultural issues.
So the only time I deal with Islamic issues now is when there's this kind of cross-overlap where somebody's trying to attack Islam, and I'm like, yeah, that's done because of X, Y, and Z. Okay.
But yeah, I've got a very good background in Islamic knowledge.
Gotcha.
So you're big on defending the faith basically?
Yeah, I'm big on defending the faith when people basically misalign or misappropriate or lie or make misinformation about it and then therefore I'll push back.
So I've done like threads on the age of Aisha.
I've talked about some of this.
I've written about like homosexuality and these type of things which are like false information that's been put out about Muslims.
Gotcha.
Gotcha.
So a lot of the talking points that dissenters might have, you've already addressed a bunch of them or whatever, which I'm sure people here might want.
I mean, we'll probably have to address it on Rumble.
But see, it sucks, right, guys?
YouTube is just not it, man.
You got to have the real discussions on Rumble.
Yeah, I guess we're not going to be on YouTube for longer.
We're not going to be on it for too much longer.
So tell us about growing up.
Where's your family from?
So, my grandparents are from Pakistan.
Okay.
And they came to the UK in the 60s.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So, like, if you remember the UK, if you'd know about the UK, what happened was after the World War, it was kind of, like, destroyed, right, because of the bombing and so on and so forth.
World War II or I? World War II, right.
So, after that, you basically had a lot of immigrants who came in as well.
Remember, the UK had colonized India.
Yeah.
Yes, they did.
They came over.
I'm proud of the fact that our parents came.
My parents fought in the world.
Were Pakistan and India one country at that point?
They were.
They were in the 40s.
They were in one country.
It's actually the Brits who partitioned it, isn't it?
Yes.
And then what happened was you basically had a scenario where they came and rebuilt the country, right?
And they helped rebuild the country because it was in carnage.
And so that's why a lot of the times I'm talking about the social issues because in my view, when they came to England, the British values had a certain ideology or framework.
And obviously over time that's been disintegrated and it's been disintegrated significantly.
And now the question becomes why was it disintegrated?
How was it disintegrated?
And who was it disintegrated by?
And obviously we'll talk about that in Rumble.
Okay, gotcha.
So, you blew up on Twitter, right?
500k in a year is incredible.
Most people get that.
I've seen people that have been on X since 2006 that just hit 100k, 200k.
500k in a year is wild.
And I know a lot of it was because you covered the Andrew Tate case.
I had seen a bunch of your tweets and a lot of times when we were preparing for our shows, I look at some of your tweets and get information, so thank you for that.
Apparently, they're going to trial now, right?
What's your take on what's going on right now?
Obviously, there have been a few developments here and there, but what's your overall perspective on the case?
So, my overall perspective on the case is probably one of the most lousiest, weakest cases that there is.
And that's initially how I started, and you asked about how I blew up on Twitter.
So, like, I came on Twitter, I think, in December, when they're about to get arrested.
I think I only had a few hundred followers.
Yeah.
And I just thought, you know what, there's something...
You know, whenever something major happens, I'm always quite pessimistic, right?
And I'm pessimistic about lots of issues.
So I didn't know much about the Tates, but I thought, you know what, let me look into it.
So as soon as I started looking into it, I mean, it was great.
And you have a background in law too.
Yeah, yeah.
I have a background in terms of a law degree.
So I'm not a lawyer, but just a law degree, right?
And so...
What happened was I was looking into it and I was like, wait a sec.
A lot of the arguments they're making against the Tets is weak.
And what's worse on Twitter was everyone was attacking him.
It was crazy.
Like nobody who was providing the other side, right?
And so I became almost- Don't say 10-1 easy.
Like 10 to 1 of people saying like, he's guilty, he's guilty, he's guilty versus...
I would say it's worse than that because maybe in terms of the people, but in terms of like large accounts, they were all just smashing him.
For example, there was a Twitter space and it was a full-on pile-on about how he's guilty and so on and so forth, right?
And so when I thought, my always psychology is when everybody's talking about one thing, I've got question marks over there, right?
And I was talking, I met Fuentes and I was talking about some of them issues as well, but maybe talk about it.
The forbidden one, yes.
Yeah, yeah.
And so what happened was, right, I thought, like, what's going on?
So I researched it and then I was like, look, all of this is weak.
Most of the claims that we're making on him are weak.
And then what happened was, I started researching it, I started doing threads, them threads, like, Tate's people, I mean, Tate's fans appreciated it because it was kind of analysing and breaking down a lot of their attacks.
And then I went on Twitter spaces and kind of debated some of these Tate haters who were crazy, right?
And then that had a huge impact.
And then what happened was, in February time, I was in America, in Orlando, and then...
February of this year?
2023.
Okay, last year.
2023, right?
Yeah.
And, like, I got in contact, or I somehow managed to get the contact of, like, some of the people who were connected to the women who were accusing the tits.
Oh, yes.
And keep in mind, guys, they got arrested in December of 2022.
Yeah.
And then, so what, two months later, you get ahold of information from the girls.
Because at this point, not many people knew who the women were.
Yeah, exactly.
It's only two months in.
Okay.
And so, I'm in Florida, and then I basically start investigating, because it's very close to your Fort Lauderdale.
There's a lot of people who are connected.
So I basically interview them and then the whole case blows up.
It's crazy, the stuff I'm learning.
These women were basically falsely accusing so many people.
At that time, I was trying to not tell too many people what I knew because I didn't want to mess the case up for them as well.
So it was a balance by using the information I had without messing it up for them.
So it was crazy.
For example, one of the women had a history of accusing people.
She put a couple of them in jail, false accusations, all that.
Yeah, yeah.
So that whole case is from me.
Because I investigated all of that and found it out when I came here.
And then I passed it on to his team.
And then I didn't report about it for a month because I didn't want to mess up the case.
So you were the one that broke it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit.
That's Suleiman, man.
Yeah, so I broke all that.
So that entire legal case, the tests are doing against the girls in Florida.
The civil case.
Yeah, the civil case.
Like most of that content is from me.
Nice.
Yeah.
And being the source, like I investigated it.
And then, yeah, so...
When you look at the women, and both women had nefarious pasts.
Both women had highly problematic issues.
And both of the women had actually had a history of being in this industry, but in a much more worse manner.
And what I mean by that is they were either like Escorts or, you know, and so on and so forth.
I know the chick from here in Florida definitely was involved in all that stuff.
Sugarbabying.
I'm telling you now.
Accusing guys falsely, all that shit.
It's even worse than that.
Like, I think some of the information they've not even put in the file.
So I don't know why.
Maybe it's because it's too crazy or they couldn't find...
Like, some of the stuff, like, I had a...
I don't even know if I'm legally about this, but I had some information about her where she literally had a diary of, like, guys that she was basically...
Oh, wow.
Yeah, it was crazy, like, some of the stuff.
And I know that's not in the case file, so I'm not sure.
And the other one is British, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, so she's Macedonian or Moldovan.
Moldovan, yes.
And then she was in Britain.
And again, they have extreme nefarious pasts.
They were only in the tits in Romania for like six days.
The one from America.
How can you be human trafficked for like six days?
And you know the worst thing about it is for people who are against the tits, it's actually...
Real people who have been in human trafficking is basically minimizing their pain and suffering.
Because there are obviously people who do get human trafficking.
Of course.
But these chicks obviously aren't one of them.
So yeah, I mean exposing that, going on the debates kind of made me like, made me on Twitter in terms of stuff.
Because you were the only dissident in the situation when everyone was going after them.
I mean, even to this day, people are talking shit on Twitter.
It's wild.
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
But now it's like there's a lot more people on Ted's side and a lot more people who have more of a...
There's more information that's come out.
Yeah, there's more information that's come out.
They have the tools to basically push back.
And the Ted's are out themselves, and they're always the best at smashing anyway.
So there's not that need as much.
But initially, there was that huge need.
Yeah, I remember.
Are you saying they may be part of a syndicate, a bigger setup, you'd say?
Who?
The girls?
Yeah, like a bigger group?
So, again, I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say, but one of them did seem to be that.
And obviously, I'm not like a private investigator, so I didn't go that much deep, deep into that second woman, the one from the UK. But there seemed to be some nefarious connections in terms of some people that she knew in terms of from Moldova.
Is it Moldova or Macedonia?
I can't remember, one of them two countries.
Moldova, yeah.
Moldova.
There was some kind of...
One of the poorest countries in Europe.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then she's the one who basically blackmailed him and did many other nefarious things.
When you read the whole thing, it just doesn't add up.
It's clearly, clearly, as he calls it, a matrix attack.
But what it is, is an attack on what he is perpetuating.
And what he is perpetuating is the opposite of what the agenda is of...
Whomever it is, you know, we'll talk about it in Rumble, right?
So in reality, when you've got a guy who's...
And I know you guys do the same thing, right?
When you're talking about...
When you've got a guy who's speaking about men's rights and you talk...
And why that's important is because in order to have a sustained family structure, you need to have men who have rights and you need women who have rights.
And so when you're able to demonize and feminize men or remove their rights, you basically have a scenario where you destroy the family structure.
So I believe that he was attacked because...
They want to control the hearts and minds of the youth.
Yes.
And he was impacting that.
Yeah, yeah.
Makes sense.
You know, you can...
The thing is, I think you could be influential, but if you're influential to teenage boys, that's when they come after you.
You know what I mean?
And that's the thing is, he had a huge audience of young guys, and...
They're like, oh, no, no, we gotta do something to stop this.
I agree with him on this too.
It's like your ability to speak freely is 100% contingent upon your influence.
The more influential you are, the less free speech you have.
You look at someone like The Rock.
Loved him as a wrestler, but let's be honest, if you ask him about any of the hot button topics, he's not going to say shit.
He's going to give a very neutral perspective that clearly comes from a publicist.
It's probably not what he really feels.
And he does that because he's extremely famous and A-list celebs have to give A-list type answers, which means they're publicists.
I watched the Joe Rogan interview.
Terrible.
Absolutely terrible.
Couldn't give an opinion on anything or a side on anything.
Well, what that shows is that your wealth, your fame has no impact on the autonomy of your mind, right?
The autonomy of your mind is solely based on your own character as a man, right?
Because if you're willing to say anything, and you know the consequences are that you're going to lose everything, that's what makes you an individual.
Yeah.
And in reality, you mentioned many people, there's many, I mean, look, even on social media, like, look, I appreciate Musk giving us free speech.
But again, you saw Musk who had, you know, he had to couture to certain demands or whatever it may be.
Of course.
So in reality, being the most wealthiest man in the world, the most powerful man, because you hold the, you have probably the strongest social media platform, and yet you don't have complete free speech.
And so And what that means is wealth, power, influence hasn't given you the complete autonomy to say what you want.
And I say a true test of a man is that he's willing to lose everything for what he believes in.
Yeah, it's a good litmus test for sure.
And I would say most people definitely don't.
On this side of the internet, right, when you have certain views, conservative views, whatever it may be, you're kind of in an echo chamber.
People agree with you when you say there's two genders, stuff like that.
But when you go out into the real world where normies are, and you say this stuff and they look at you like you're crazy, I just came back from doing Jubilee, which is a YouTube channel where they bring people of opposing views, etc.
When does it drop?
Huh?
I think it's going to come out in like a few days.
Yeah, it's going to come out like May 5th or 6th or something.
They sent out an email.
I forget the particular date.
We've got to react to it, bro.
It'll be hilarious.
Yeah.
And going and doing that reminded me, because they brought us in with a bunch of people.
It was in L.A., right?
California.
Yeah, exactly.
And, you know, things that I say all the time that I kind of just say, yeah, whatever.
Most people agree, whatever.
There's no pushback on it.
People over there were like, whoa, hold on, what do you mean, man, that there's men and women?
What do you mean?
And I was like, oh shit, holy crap.
I've had the privilege of being in a space where I have like-minded individuals with me that have certain...
We look at the world a certain way, but when you go back into the real world, most people are normies and they're not willing to say these things that we're discussing.
Yeah, you've got to tread lightly when you're speaking to them and almost like...
As you said, normies, you've got to basically open it up to them in a very...
Slow manner.
You gotta just understand your environment and move accordingly because you're right.
They do act a certain way.
And if you're opposite, they're like, oh my god, this person's so bad.
But hey, it's the truth.
Yeah.
It just reminded me, holy crap, 80% of the population thinks like these fucking guys.
You know what I mean?
This is how most people think.
So yeah, it definitely brought things back into perspective.
So when you debate these haters, right?
What are their main talking points as far as when you're in the spaces arguing with these Tate haters and saying that he's guilty, he's guilty?
Yeah, it's a good question, actually.
At that time, the main argument was that, look, they've been put in incarceration, therefore there must be some evidence, right?
And then afterwards we found out, because remember, no one knew- Yeah, and no one knew what the evidence was.
Like some of us knew because we were like investigating ourselves, but generally speaking, most people didn't know.
So it was generally speaking, personal hate they had towards Tate or personal, maybe for some disagreement in terms of the industry that the Tates were in prior to basically, you know, changing their lives, coming to Islam and so on and so forth.
So, there's always these kind of, like, issues that caused it.
But if you look at it, that's why the debates were so easy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it was literally, like, they had no substance.
And that's literally what helped me again, because I was, like, easily smashing them.
And the same with, like, now with the current debates, what we're going to talk about in Rumble.
And by the way, guys, I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to be respectful to your channel.
That's why I'm not saying certain things.
Once we get to Rumble, obviously, we'll be open, right?
What's going on with, man?
Alright, fuck it.
We can go to Rumble.
Guys, I'll read the chats and then we'll go over to Rumble so that way we don't have to worry about what we're saying.
Okay, we got here.
Oh, you want to do that one?
No, I'll do that one.
We'll do that one at Rumble.
Money Mitch.
Money Mitch says, Walt and Myron had a crazy time on the yacht.
Okay, I'm glad you did.
Um...
And live event, and you passed me to many shots in Club 11.
We'll definitely be doing the next one.
WFNF, Al Fresh for not going to the club, moving to Brickell in June.
Nigga, ask some chick to smash, dog.
Come on, man.
I was busy.
What else we got here?
BingTings1 goes, my guys, I'm still on last weekend.
It's really sparked something different in me.
I appreciate y'all once again.
I look forward to the next time.
Oh, and by the way, I know you fellas still need a trucking owner for a shop you want to come on for that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Talk to Mo.
He talks to you?
Alright, sweet.
I met him.
He's a cool guy.
Yeah.
And yeah, he was on the yacht too.
Notice how the people that came to the yacht are successful, got money, aren't brokies, and had a good time.
But then the haters were like, that yacht didn't look fun.
Keyword, it didn't look fun because you weren't there, motherfucker.
You're watching from your house.
And then they said, oh, that level of the boat was so, like, boring.
Bro, there was three levels to the boat.
You only saw one level.
Yeah, you didn't see all of them, man.
Relax, man.
My guys, I'm still on.
Oh, no, got that one.
What else?
You can do this, man.
I think this one's great.
Marriage Caused Divorce?
Yeah, okay.
Marriage Caused Divorce says, W Sharia Law, El Divorce Law.
Is Suleman aware of the unfair family laws in the UK and the UK Muslim organizations complaining against these laws?
Would you recommend legal marriage?
I think it's a very good question because you've basically got a scenario where in the UK, obviously, the law is significant, and it's the same in the US, right, from what I understand, that it is significantly geared towards women, right?
So there isn't a huge amount of benefit for men to get married, which is unfortunate because in reality, marriage is one of the tenants Of having a family structure and that is very important when you have children and it's important for a very cogent structured society.
When you're seeing the destruction of society right now, it's because of a lack of marriage, right?
Or having sex outside of marriages or divorce rate and so on and so forth, right?
Or not having the correct family structure or not having the defined gender roles.
So when you've basically got that and the entire destruction of society is occurring, marriage has become a problem in terms of that regard.
So yeah, in terms of Sharia marriage, of course it's better in that regard because obviously what it does is gives a much more of an onus on giving the financial rights to a man in terms of when the divorce happens.
And then it's up to the man then to make sure that he prepares and provides for his children.
So that's going to be his right anyway.
So I think that balance is really good.
But again, look, I'm not saying Sharia marriage should take over British marriage.
I just think that there should be a tweaking of British law.
And so what that tweaking would be is a little more balanced structure so that you basically have a scenario where people are incentivized to be married, right?
Because as soon as you're financially in a decent position, it's not beneficial whatsoever to get married.
I mean, you guys seen it in America, right?
Of course.
Jeff Bezos, like his chicks got half a what?
What did she do?
Yes, you do not.
That's the biggest wealth transfer between men and women.
Stupid!
It is, it is.
So in that regard, I would say in the UK, because this whole misnomer that people try to present, that Muslims want Sharia law, or they want Sharia law to take over, is one of the most ridiculous arguments ever.
And in reality, once we're in rumble, obviously I'll talk about it, but we know who's perpetuating this industry significantly, both in the United States and the UK. Yeah.
Rumble time?
Yeah.
Real fast, I was going to say, because the marriage, I don't know what it is.
Well, in Christianity, I think it's pretty simple, too, when we spoke with Andrew Wilson about it.
In Islam, what?
You just go to a mosque?
Can you describe?
Because you don't need to stay involved to get married.
So Islamic marriage is probably the most easiest thing.
Easiest thing ever, right?
Can you tell the audience real quick?
Because you don't need to stay involved, by the way, guys.
You don't even need an imam involved, right?
So even though people do it culturally...
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't even need the imam?
No, no, you don't.
You just need two male witnesses.
So like, for example, now, let's say there was you two and there was a girl there.
I'll say, do you accept me as your husband?
She says, I accept.
I give her the amount, like the minimum amount, like £35, which is about $50.
And that's it.
Wait, what is that?
What's the money for?
So it's basically a dowry, a mahar.
So you have to have a...
Because basically, marriage in Islam is actually considered a contractual deal, right?
So the part of the contractual deal or to seal the deal is the financial aspect where you're basically paying the woman to basically seal the deal when it comes from a contract perspective.
You have the same thing in Judaism in case people are like, oh, whatever, right?
And you have...
So when you look at Islamic law, right, a lot of it is very similar to Judaism.
The only thing is Judaism is a lot more extreme and harsher.
That's the only difference between Islam and Judaism, right?
So as long as you say that, and it has to be past tense, there's just some like reasons for it.
Because of like, the reason they say you have to say in a past tense is because it may be like if you say, are you going to marry me?
It doesn't mean like this deal's happened.
You might be talking from a, like a, a sophisticated perspective and you're not actually saying it.
So that's why you say, will you, do you accept me as your husband?
And then she says, I accept her as long as there's two male witnesses, it's done.
Goddamn!
W religion, man.
Wait, but am I bound to any type of like...
No, you're just a witness at that point?
Yeah, so you have to financially maintain her.
Right.
So there's certain obligations of a husband within Islam is that you need to financially provide for her.
So for example, whatever it is, for example, give her a house, make sure that she's provided for.
That's it.
Now, it's not these millions, but what is financial obligation?
She has a roof over her head.
Even that isn't some kind of extravagant Malibu housing in Miami.
But as long as she's got a house, she's got somewhere of her own.
Which I agree with.
I genuinely don't think women should work.
I think your wife should live a comfortable life, and you should be able to provide that for her.
And if she wants to work on the side, that's fine.
But I genuinely believe that your duty as a man is to provide for your girl.
I agree with that 100%.
I think that's with all the main Abrahamic religions.
The man is supposed to be the leader, and a part of being the leader is being able to provide for the family, create that structure, create the nest.
Well, that's the reason why in society, through the media, through various entities, that there's been this kind of destruction of religion and destruction of the family structure.
So, for example, now, let's look at South Korea and Japan, right?
My boy, Ryan Dawson's favorite countries, right?
Yeah.
Shout out to Ryan.
We're good mates, right?
But look...
That society is crushing.
It's collapsing.
Yeah.
What's the reason for it?
So there's a few possible reasons.
Sure.
It's an ethnostate.
Yep.
So that's...
Homogenous.
Yeah.
It's an ethnostate and it's a godless country, right?
And some people can say it's because of modernity as well.
But then if it's modernity, why is their birth rate like a third or a quarter of ours?
So why is their birth rate 0.5 and ours is 1.9?
Three times more.
So what?
Like basically what?
Modernity is not affecting like Brits?
Do Brits enjoy sex more?
So in reality, it can't just be modernity, right?
And so when you've got a society that is basically godless, extremely feminist...
What is the religion they follow in Japan?
So they're 20% Christian, but it's atheist society.
Oh, wow.
Really?
It's not Buddhism or...?
No, no, it's an atheist society.
Wow.
Okay, I didn't know that.
So that's the point.
Because it's an atheistic society...
You've basically got a scenario where the birth rate is completely collapsed.
Korea too?
Yeah, Korea and Japan, yeah.
And so one of them is not, and Korea's not, Korea's Western Japan.
Korea's like 0.5 and I believe Japan's like 0.
something.
So 20% of Japan is Christian, other 80% is atheist.
No, there's various denominations, but the majority is atheist, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then you've basically got a scenario where, look, the ethnostate itself, Let's even ignore the fact that they basically genocided 30 million people, right?
Let's put that aside, right?
But when it comes down to why is the country completely capitulating?
It's capitulating because either it's a godless society or it's an ethno-nationalism or in my view it's because of both reasons.
Because I believe that when it comes to, why is every empire in the past always dominated?
It's always dominated when it had multi-races, multi-societies, Roman Empire, Ottoman Empire.
It had people from wide range of religions, races and creeds.
And when that happens, you basically, it's like a free capitalist society.
America does well because it brings in people from all different countries and you have the best of the best, right?
Of course.
So when you don't have that, that society isn't doing as well.
And then the second thing is godless society.
So when you've got a godless society, you have no hope for God.
So what happens is the women aren't going to marry to men.
That's why I joke with Ryan and say it's a lesbian country.
Because literally the women aren't going for men.
And the second thing is you've basically got a scenario where- And the men aren't pursuing the women either.
Well, yeah, the men are not even got the skills to pursue the women.
You don't have the chance.
Because imagine you live in a society where the women are not interested in you.
It's going to be a lot harder, right?
And so you basically got a scenario where that's happening.
And then you've basically got a scenario where I mentioned to you that the suicide rate is so high.
So why is the suicide rate so high?
Much more high than Britain, much higher than America.
It's because...
First of all, it's the criminals who are killing themselves or people with mental health issues are killing themselves.
But the second thing is...
And that's why crime is so low.
Yeah, and that's why crime is so low.
That has a factor on crime.
And the second thing is because, for example, when it comes to the monotheistic religions, we believe that we need to live this life in the best way possible in order for the elevation of our soul to be able to basically...
for the next life, right?
Okay.
And so none of the monotheistic religions believe in suicide.
Yeah, it's a sin in all three.
It's a sin in all three religions.
Very serious sin.
And so in reality...
Is it unforgivable in Christianity?
Fresh?
For suicide?
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
Unforgivable.
And then I know in Islam, straight to hell, right?
That's what they say, yeah.
Okay.
So, and I think there's complexity.
But yeah, the vast majority position is that it's an unforgivable sin.
And so coming back to the point, but if you don't believe in God and you believe this world is all it is, then you lose hope.
And basically, your life's not going well.
You know, you've got maybe mental health issues.
You've not got a girl.
You've not got a house.
You've not got property.
Financially, you're not doing well.
You just give up.
You're going to give up.
And so when you give up, and you haven't got faith to hold on to, that's what's happening.
That's true.
This life is a test.
And then if you don't have kids, I have something to live for.
I remember we had a guy, a guy wrote me a letter, how he was, you know, he had a day that he was going to, he was actually British, he had a day that he was going to end it, and he had a tree picked out and everything, and he watched one of our shows, and he decided not to do it, and then he ended up, you know, getting a girl, then getting a family later, and then he's the happiest he's ever been, but I would guarantee a part of that is obviously from having a family.
When you have children, you have something to live for.
100%.
There was a guy that came to our live event, the British guy.
He was literally at his home in a cottage.
His next door neighbor was screaming, shouting, blasted himself.
And the main thing was that he had no family or friends around him.
He won a wife and he couldn't find one and then he just ended it.
So that's real man.
Yeah.
Everywhere.
Importance of religion and the family structure for sure.
And then I guess to compound the issue, would you say feminism is obviously a very strong contributing factor to that as well?
Feminism is a huge factor, right?
Feminism is literally the exposing of everyone.
It's the exposing of the left and it's the exposing of the right.
Because they all support feminism.
And feminism has destroyed society.
Let me give you an example.
You see this conservative...
And by the way, liberals we don't need to talk about because I think you guys always smash them all the time, right?
Anyway, so I'm just giving a different perspective.
Smash them.
No worries.
Yeah.
Smashing.
So look...
From a conservative perspective, if you look at it, they're all like, oh, we're with JK Rowling, we're with JK Rowling.
So JK Rowling is a feminist, right?
And they'll attack the transgender community.
So when they attack the transgender community, just think about it.
So they're for L, they're for the lesbians, they're for the gays, they're for the bi's, they'll just attack the transgender and they're obviously for feminism.
So transgender is an extreme minority.
But then within the transgender community, you know the vast majority transgender are.
Women.
It's women changing to men.
I thought it was the other way around.
That's the thing.
Everyone thought it but actually did a thread on it and demonstrated it's almost four to five to one.
Four to five to one?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
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So you were saying, I did not know it's five to one.
So for under 30s, it's like three to one.
For under 16s, it's like five to one.
So basically...
And you know that, isn't it?
Logically, it makes sense.
Which out of men and women who are more susceptible to being influenced?
Women, for sure.
But I thought it'd be the men because women live an easier life.
Ah, but then men are less influenced, right?
So men are...
Because when a man...
Who basically becomes a woman, his life's not that much easier, right?
He's getting...
Oh yeah, I see what you mean.
So if you look at it, they'd be ridiculous about...
But you know why it's important?
Because you know why you thought that?
It's because the conservative movement only attack the men who basically change to women.
Right?
So they only attack transgender women.
Right?
Yeah, mostly.
Because they want the advantage in sports.
They want the advantage in using female bathrooms.
Yeah, by the way, I'm for that.
I'm for that, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because, listen, at the end of the day, you basically got a scenario where a guy...
Is willing to basically chop his penis off and even then they want to abuse him.
Yeah.
So really it's entrenched in men hatred and that's why feminists attack transgender and they'll only attack transgender men.
So basically transgender women, but basically men, biological men, which they'll only attack them and hence why you, and not just you, nearly everybody thinks that the vast majority are men, but the vast majority are women, but they're not being attacked.
And it's actually the feminists Having a coalition with the concept...
It's like, you want to make your life harder, you dumb whore?
Okay, sure.
No one cares, right?
But it's like, yeah, okay.
I see what you mean.
And so that's why I support men taking over sports.
Taking over female sports.
Taking over everything.
Fucking them up, right?
Yeah, exactly.
You want equality?
Here you go.
Exactly, exactly.
I'm all for that equality.
So basically...
You know when you see these guys all like JK Rowling, JK Rowling, it's ridiculous.
It just demonstrates, because what is the bigger problem for society?
So for you, a guy basically becoming a woman or a woman becoming, is it going to affect your life?
No.
Really?
It's not, is it?
No.
But feminism is going to affect every single man's life, right?
So why would you have an alliance with feminists who are actually destroying society in all aspects, And then basically attack the male, biological males' transgenders.
A minority of a minority of a minority.
And it's because it's manipulation.
And the manipulation's happening because Zionists control both sides, right?
So they control the media.
We're back, we're on rumble now, right, isn't it?
Yeah, we're on rumble.
So let me tell you about this because I'll start it from the beginning, right?
So look, I do believe, and I know there's people like my boy Fuentes who doesn't believe this, right?
But I do believe that the Jewish people were oppressed for a significant period of time, right?
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a fact.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Well, the other side is just to get balanced.
They think that, no, they were thrown out because of their behaviors, right?
So they believe that they were thrown out of 109 countries because of their behaviors and their actions and so on and so forth.
But my opinion is that they were oppressed, right?
Yeah, for sure.
And that oppression culminated- Look, Egypt.
Yeah, or Spain, right?
So that oppression culminated in the Holocaust, right?
And so the Holocaust, like, I do believe it happened.
Now, the numbers I think is just irrelevant to argue about because if it's 6 million or if it's 5.2 million according to normal, if it can stay in office, 3 million according to some academic scholars, whatever, we know a lot of people suffered, right?
So that's the main thing, right?
So when it comes down to it, you basically had it where they suffered, right?
And then they thought, Never again.
We're never going to have this happen to us again.
So who are the two biggest people who can cause this to happen?
Muslims.
Okay.
And Christians.
Whites, right?
White Christians are Muslims, right?
So how do we dominate these people?
And so from this grew this kind of Zionist ideology.
So I'm not talking about Zionism as a state, but Zionism as a supremacist, racist ideology that was there to dominate.
Because look...
When I say Jewish supremacist, you can be a supremacist of anything, right?
There could be Muslim supremacists.
It doesn't mean all Muslims are supremacists.
You can be Arab supremacists.
It doesn't mean all Arabs, and there are Arab supremacists.
It doesn't mean all Arabs are supremacists.
The Saudis.
Yeah, I mean, just being honest.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
A lot of them are Arab supremacists.
They look at everybody else's...
Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree.
And we call them out all the time, right?
And same with, what do you call it, white supremacists.
There's some white supremacists, but it doesn't mean all white people.
True.
Supremacists in every realm.
Yeah, and so when we say Jewish supremacists, we don't mean all Jews, but there is a decent proportion of Jews who have this supremacist ideology.
And so, based on that ideology, they basically perpetuated, in my view, this plan.
And what the plan was to dominate these two...
Yeah, these Muslims and these white Christians.
Now, how do you dominate Muslims and how do you dominate white Christians?
So you do Muslims by basically bombing their countries and causing coups in every single one of those countries.
So if you look at it, I mean, even Iran, as an example, if you look at the history of Iran, And people will be shocked to know this, but the U.S. has been involved for a very long time.
So you had basically Iran, who was a democracy in the 50s.
You know who overthrew the democracy?
America.
Yeah.
And they placed in the monarchists, your boy PBD, his crew, right?
Let's see if he has his own, because we will smash him in a debate, right?
But when it comes to the monarchists in, and then what the monarchists did was they basically secularized the society.
And then what happened was they thought, you know what?
The overthrowing of the democracy was done by America, and it's well known, right?
Because what happened was, when the monarchists were in charge, they liberalised the country, but then what happened?
Americans were like, guess what?
Maybe you guys should have a free press.
Thinking that their culture is very similar to American and British culture.
But obviously it's not, because not all cultures are the same.
So as soon as they had a free press, that basically caused...
The people to revolt and they overthrew them and then you had basically the Islamic rulership that came in.
So even Iran, but many of those countries were basically, it's the US involvement.
But when we say US, who does it mean?
It's the Zionists.
Because the Zionists took control of the US. And what they did was they had a plan to bomb the Middle East.
And we've seen that.
Because if you bomb...
Because they know Muslims, when it comes to Islam, they're less willing to give up their values, right?
And we've seen that in modern society.
They're less willing to give their ideals up, less willing to give their values up and their belief system.
So the way of beating them is from a physical perspective.
So that's what they did.
But with the white Christians, they're problematic.
They don't want to fight them physically, right?
Because, you know, they'll get dominated or whatever.
So what's the best way to deal with them?
And that's to entrench yourself in their society.
By the way, we're not going to be able to talk about this soon, so we best talk about it now because of the new bill that was passed today.
But basically, entrench yourself in society.
And how do you entrench yourself in society?
So you take over the media industry.
You take over the political industry.
You take over the music industry.
You take over the military-industrial complex.
And by doing that, you basically destroy America within.
So when you look at, as you said, feminism or liberalism, these things that are destroyed, Society in itself.
This was perpetuated through these mediums onto society.
Hence why you've got a population collapse in Britain.
Hence why you've got a population collapse in the United States.
You know, the British population collapse is significant because Britain, just think about it, it was a Christian country.
It fought wars for Christianity.
And I was mentioning to you earlier, Christians in Britain were 70% in the last census 10 years ago.
Now they are minority.
So where did that 30% go?
They want you to believe that it was Muslims.
Because their agents like Tommy Robinson have made you believe it, right?
Because Tommy Robinson is basically controlled and paid by Zionists.
He's there to destroy British society for the Zionist agenda.
Because Tommy Robinson, I know he was calling Sneeko out earlier on today, right?
When he was claiming that Sneeko was getting paid, which is completely...
In Accra, but he thinks everyone's like him because he basically is the guy who whomever pays him, he'll become like them.
So his history is, Quilliam Foundation paid him and then he became like Muslims.
And as soon as they stopped paying him, then he basically started attacking once again.
So coming back to it, so he destroys British society.
And how he does that is if you look at it, The main people who erode the society, and it was Muslims who were basically standing up for some of these values, you know, against four monotheistic values.
So he started attacking Islam, saying, oh, guess what?
They don't believe in homosexuality.
Oh, guess what?
They don't believe in rights of women, and so on and so forth.
So he perpetuated, and it's not just him, he's just an example.
There's many, many other examples.
Pace Morgan and many others, right?
They perpetuated these ideals and destroyed British society from within.
And so now, Britain is becoming not a Muslim country, as they claimed.
It's becoming an atheistic country.
And when you're an atheistic country, you become that country and you lose the very thing that made you Britain.
So what is British values?
When my grandad came...
In the 60s, British values was monotheistic, conservative values.
That's what he thought the country that he's coming to.
Now British values is...
Shanks.
Feminism.
Well, in London it is.
It's feminism, LGBTQ, and so on and so forth.
But even crime rates, why is that happening?
Again, it's because of the erosion of society, erosion of the family structure, and so on and so forth.
That's a good breakdown.
Yeah, so question for you then.
What would you say to a detractor that might tell you, well, Suleiman, hold on one second.
These countries that you mentioned, Japan and Korea, don't have Zionist influence, and they're collapsing as well from a birth rate perspective, etc.
What would you say to them?
So, the problem with...
And it's a very good question.
The problem with...
I'm just pretending to be a detractor.
Yeah, yeah.
So, Korea has the problem where they're already an atheistic society.
So, the problem is...
And the second thing is, you know, Korea and Japan are actually like American vassal states, right?
So, in reality, they try and mimic America in terms of the way they act and their ideals.
But separate to that...
It in itself already was an atheistic country.
So it demonstrates that when you're an atheistic, an ethno-national country or whatever it is, your society is crumbling and that's what's happening.
So that's what happened to our society.
But the problem with UK is it was never an atheistic country.
It was a Christian country.
And so that's why we're seeing the impact.
So now 70% to 40, 30% in 10 years.
What's it going to be in another 10 years?
Not to mention most Zionists are secular.
So most Zionists are secular for sure, but the problem we have is when it comes to the destruction of society, you've got a wide plethora of Zionists.
Some of them are secularists, some of them are religious, they all are perpetuating this idea.
And so when you look at in Britain, the main funder, And actually it's the same in the US as well.
The main funder of the Islamophobia industry is done by Zionists.
So they're a pillar of the Islamophobia industry because if you demonise Muslims, you basically erode...
The monotheistic values, because in Britain, let me give you an example, is the people who were standing up against it.
So for example, teaching LGBTQ in schools.
Okay.
So they wanted to teach LGBTQ to children as young as five, right?
Craziness.
It's crazy because the reason why it's crazy is we...
Five-year-olds' brains have not developed enough to be able to differentiate truth from falsehood.
They're learning, they're acquiring, you can easily manipulate their minds, right?
And so they wanted to do that.
In that country, it was these type of people who were pushing the agenda, right?
And you had basically Pace Morgan pushing it, you had basically these right-wing guys who were like Britain first, but like you said, Muslims don't like homosexuals and that's the reason they're attacking them.
So they were attacking Muslims for standing up against the LGBTQ agenda in the UK. And so what happened?
You basically had this guy called Dili Hussain, who you had an interaction with, who went on Pace Morgan, got destroyed, was made a fool of, and then because of that, LGBTQ became...
I'm not saying that's the reason, but that was a factor that caused people to think that this position is just ridiculous.
It sounds like these backward village-type people who've got this position without understanding, without having the ability to destroy liberalist ideas from a political perspective.
And then it became...
What did he say should be done?
So he was just like, yeah, we're Muslim, you know, homosexuality is a sin, it shouldn't be allowed, and it's dumbness.
Like, you should be talking about it from the perspective that we're talking about, from a political perspective, from talking about that the brains aren't developed, that you're basically trying to control the mind.
Like, these people haven't got the political nuance.
That's why I say, like, these people, the Haram police, or these people who are dominating the Dawah circuit, they either are not very intelligent, Keeping it real, okay.
Or either they're not intelligent or either they are- You need to speak the language of your dissenters, you know what I mean?
Or the Zionist agents, right?
Because it makes no sense that you keep flopping every single time, right?
So either if I was flopping or something every single time, and it was something so important because imagine this is so critical, I would step aside.
I would let somebody who's much more qualified, much more better to do so.
So when they're not doing that, it's either not being smart or basically they are agents.
Saying it's forbidden in a religion is one thing, but being able to say, well, it's forbidden in a religion.
However, from a biological situation or from a statistical perspective, you've got to be able to speak the language of the people that might not necessarily share your worldview or your religion because numbers don't lie.
Exactly, because from a political perspective, we've explained it.
From a cultural perspective, we've explained it.
And homosexual itself, because I know Laura Loomer came on the show and she was talking ridiculousness, right?
So one of the things she keeps saying is Sharia supremacy.
Like, what is that?
And the only reason she's using that terminology is because there is Jewish supremacy, right?
And it's been exposed in real time.
Now, one of the things she said on your show was, oh...
What do you call it?
The way homosexuals are treated in Islam, right?
That they're going to be thrown off the rooftop, which is actually fake news.
Because Islam, when you look at the Quran, which is considered the word of God, it says homosexuality is a sin.
But it doesn't have a punishment.
Right?
And then the punishment, whereas in the Bible and the Torah, it literally says, kill the homosexual.
Right?
So again, much more harsher, much more stricter.
But then in Islam, we have hadith that then gave us some punishments.
And actually within Islamic Sharia, the Hanafi school, which is followed by the vast majority of Muslims, the punishment isn't killing.
It's basically admonishment by the judge, then Ta'azir, which is like could be lashing.
So there's an escalation of punishments.
And it's only extreme Salafists who hold a position, and not even Salafists, it's not even their position, but extremes who say, you know what, throw them off the building, like an ISIS-type position.
But that's not the Islamic...
It is, but it's not the Islamic position.
So, Islam is much more lenient when it comes to punishment.
And actually, Judaism, which is what Laura Loomer is, she says she's Jewish, that's all she talks about on Twitter, is more extreme.
They want to kill homosexuals.
Another thing that Laura Loomer said on the show was, And by the way, Laura Loma called me out on Infowars, and I said I'll debate her, but she was too scared, right?
Because she knows she's not about that.
She's used to debating Dilly-type creatures.
Not creatures.
Dilly-type people.
Dilly-type people.
Dilly-type people who's an easy win, right?
But when it comes to actually people who can actually destroy her, people like her and Tommy Robinson are unwilling to debate because they will get destroyed.
I think I might set something up with Tommy and Muhammad Hijab, but if Muhammad Hijab doesn't want to do it, we could set it up between you and him or you and Laura.
I don't think Laura would be scared to do a debate man with you.
She's scared.
Laura is scared.
I'll talk to her on the side.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll talk to her.
She doesn't strike me as a coward.
She's not a coward.
Yeah, so let's see about that because she's been offered.
But coming back to it, right?
And Tommy is very easy.
I think an average person can destroy Tommy.
Both of these are extremely low IQ people.
I'm not saying it.
Look at my interaction with Laura Looma on Twitter.
Every single time she gets destroyed in the interaction.
So coming back to another point she made was on your show.
She said, Islam is oppressive to women.
How is Islam oppressive to women?
So in Judaism, women do not have, are not allowed to be rabbis and they're not allowed to basically become priests or rabbis.
They're not allowed to learn the Talmud.
And you know the reason for it?
Because they say they're dumb.
Now I know Laura might be an example of that.
Wait, that's the Torah that they're dumb?
Yeah, it says the lack of intelligence, right?
Which maybe Laura...
That's what the Jews got right now, I'm just kidding.
So anyway, in Islam, one of the biggest narrators of Hadith was actually the wife of the Prophet Aisha.
So again, Islam doesn't have that standard where they think that women are extremely unintelligent to not have scholarship within the religion.
And so again, how are women treated worse?
A second example is inheritance.
So in Islam, women get 50% inheritance.
So they get half of what a man gets.
And the reason for that is when she gets married, the man provides for her.
So now she's literally getting a bonus because the man is the one who has to financially provide for her.
She doesn't have to provide for the family.
In Judaism they get zero inheritance.
So in which...
Inheritance after divorce or after death?
Inheritance from parents after death.
Oh, from the parents?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I see what you mean.
So, when you look at Judaism, it is again, extremely oppressive.
If you use Laura's terminology, I don't think it's oppressive, by the way.
But I'm saying if you use Laura's parameters is much more oppressive than Islam is, right?
In all of these parameters.
So in what parameters is oppressive to women?
So again, when Laura does this, she's relying on the fact that basically she's dealing with people who don't have knowledge of this information.
And so then she'll try and pull out this false information.
In reality, I can guarantee to you, Judaism is much stricter than Islam in almost everything.
Okay.
All right.
Because strictness isn't rightness, right?
So, because, for example, homosexuality could be a sin, but you don't need to kill the homosexual.
Gotcha.
All right.
No, I mean, see, and I am not an Islamic scholar.
I'm not a religious scholar at all.
But I'd be happy to facilitate the debate.
I'll hit her on the side.
As you guys know, even though I disagree with Laura and Tommy on certain topics, I like them both.
What topic do you agree with them on?
Huh?
What topic do you agree with them on?
No, I said I don't agree with them on everything.
No, but what do you agree with them on?
What do I agree with them on?
Well, with Tommy, well, I agree with his ability to have free speech.
I agree with that.
But I disagree with a lot of the things that he says, especially when it comes to Islam.
As far as Laura goes, you're asking, what do I agree with?
We disagree on Israel, 100%.
No, but do you agree with Iran?
Free speech, Trump, America.
So let's talk about that.
So she doesn't believe in free speech.
She's a prime example.
You know, we said October the 7th, the masks are off.
Every single person who claimed that they held a position, all of them are exposed.
And Laura's just one example of that, but many of them are.
So she was like crying and crying and crying about the fact that her free speech was taken away, right?
Even though we know like she lost in court or whatever it may be.
But coming back to the point.
She complained about how free speech would take away, but now recently, she literally has been trying to get me and Sneeko banned, right?
On X? On X, yeah.
So she was like, Sneeko, FBI, at this person, you know, look what he's saying, Elon Musk.
Same with me, right?
So I said to her...
No, Sneeko...
Yeah, yeah, Soneka.
And then with me, she said...
That's my dog!
Exactly.
And then with me, but then how she frees speech, I'm just trying to demonstrate how she...
I don't really care what she does.
I'm just trying to demonstrate how she's not free speech.
So with me, I said, look, people like Laura are Israel first.
And what they do is put the interest of that country over America.
And someone like her has the ability to get citizenship and the ability to get the right to return, right?
And based on that, hypothetically, she can destroy America And then get Israeli citizenship.
So she's like, at Elon Musk, ban him.
He's trying to say I'm an Israeli citizen when I'm not.
And I was like, are you dumb?
I did not even say you're an Israeli citizen, first of all.
I have not seen these threads, man.
I mean, look, maybe I gotta go look or whatever.
But I haven't seen these threads.
But like I said, as far as what we agree on, we both agree on Trump.
She's done a lot for the Trump campaign as far as helping him.
She single-handedly got Ron DeSantis pretty much out.
I think she does good work.
I mean, for me, Trump...
Biden, they're all the same, right?
I see your perspective.
And you're obviously a British citizen.
No, we have the same thing.
So in Britain, we have Labour and Conservative.
Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak are the same.
So when you have two choices, which are basically the same, Zionist control, there's no real...
Well, what's a lesser evil?
We'll have to see what he...
So from his foreign policy, in terms of when he was actual president, for sure, it seemed better, right?
But right now, he was literally like, if I was Israel, I would have finished things quicker.
Right now, he said, I would end the protest, end the protest.
So he's taking away rights of Americans.
I see your perspective.
But what I'm saying is that, and I actually had this conversation a couple days ago.
You can't be a politician in the United States with any type of real significant influence unless you appeal to the Israeli lobby in the United States.
It's just the way it is.
So you always have to pick for, okay...
To me, I look at it like that's just a part of the game.
It is what it is, unfortunately.
AIPAC runs America.
So I look at it like, okay, who's the best candidate that we have?
I think Trump is the best by far compared to Biden and the other people.
I mean, this is the problem we need to see because the problem is when he's saying, for example, in his audio that I posted yesterday, he's like perpetuated October the 7th lies, right?
So October the 7th, we debunked most of the lies right from the beginning.
The first thing was beheaded babies.
That ended up being fake news.
The second thing was Hamas killed zero babies.
Zero, right?
The only baby that was killed was Elias Cohen, and he was killed by the Israelis.
So the only baby that was killed in Kibbutz...
Was it the tanks that killed them or the air strikes?
Yeah, it was.
It shot artillery fire.
It shot artillery fire.
And it was in Kibbutz Beri.
It's crazy people still say that like that.
Yeah, and then he was perpetuating that.
And then the mass rape, right?
Again, that was fake news because the guy who basically was claiming that he saw it, his name was Riz Cohen.
He first said, I didn't see anything.
I heard it.
And then later he's like, yeah, yeah, I saw five men, right?
Oh, switch the story up.
And then he changes, switches the story up.
And then on top of that, you basically had the person who was investigating, what was her name again?
Something Levy.
Khrushchev Levy.
She was basically saying, she showed a picture of a Kosovan woman who had been killed and claimed it was an Israeli.
Kosovan woman?
Yeah, yeah.
So again, like fake pictures.
What?!
Yeah.
Where did she even get that photo from?
Well, it was just online.
And this is the problem you've got.
Most of the videos that they're showing and most of the images they're showing is all fake.
In reality, what happened that day was you basically had Hamas who went in, who had basically a military operation.
Yeah.
They had a military operation because they wanted to get Israeli military hostages and swap them for Palestinian hostages, women and children mainly, but also the military hostages that were held by Israel.
Yeah.
And then the operation went wrong because Israelis came in, they lost their minds and they start basically killing their own people.
Now, did Hamas kill any civilians?
Yes, they did.
But the question becomes, did they kill any civilians intentionally?
So I've seen the videos.
You saw the...
I know they had like a film showing, like a 22 minute video, if I'm not mistaken.
It's like a 48 minute video.
I've not seen that, but from the people who've seen it, they're saying that the content that we've got out there on these websites, it's almost the same except for one or two incidences.
Okay.
Right.
All right.
Because I know it was a special screening and most people couldn't see it.
Yeah, yeah.
And I said that I had a debate with some Zayos and someone from the...
Is it Rumble?
Yeah, we're on Rumble.
Someone from the foreign ministry.
And I was like, why are you not showing us the videos?
And they were like, because we don't want people like you to get it.
And I was like, what?
Because we're going to debunk it.
So they purposely have shown only some people so that it doesn't get debunked because they've seen everything else get debunked.
And so there is...
And I'm always honest about it.
So there are two or three...
Videos that seem to suggest that there was intentional killing.
But that's without understanding, without seeing what happened before, what happened after, whether there's military personnel.
For example, there's one video where the Hamas guy tries to grab The Israeli guy and the Israeli guy is trying to shrug him off and then he tries to hold him and then he just runs off and then he shoots him.
So that's like one incident, one of the incidences that's there.
So there is a few.
And so for that one, of course, those specific person, if they did do it, and again, we need the context because we don't know the context, those should be tried.
But this whole thing...
The fog of war, right?
Yeah, this whole thing that they've caused or created is actually fake news and fake information.
Like October the 7th isn't what they said.
And till this day, including Donald Trump, including all the politicians, Speaker Johnson was perpetuating all these lies when it's all been debunked.
Yeah, I mean, like I said before, with every politician in America...
They have to, you know...
No, but why though?
This is the problem.
So this is the issue we got.
Because they control...
Why do they control the US government?
They've always made you believe that Muslims are going to take over.
And yet they control through AIPAC, through Labour.
In the UK, it's Labour's Friends of Israel, Conservative Friends of Israel, J Street, AIPAC in America.
They've basically been able to control US politics.
And so in my view, we were talking about this earlier...
Anyone who is a dual...
They talk about Ilhan Omar, right?
Oh, Ilhan Omar, she's Somali, so she's a dual citizen.
She shouldn't be in Congress.
That's fine.
But what about Israeli dual citizens?
They should also not be in Congress or be senators then because anyone who has dual allegiance should not be there.
And then what about people...
I agree with that.
I don't think anyone should have dual citizenship if they were for the government.
So this is all fine and dandy, but what's the solution here?
I'll come to that.
But what about people like...
Just let me answer one extra point.
What about people like Laura Loomer?
But not just that.
She's just an example.
I don't want to make this show about her.
Any of these...
I'll set up the debate.
I'll set up the debate.
What about all these people who basically are born in America...
And they're basically based on the right to return, which is a supremacist ideology where only if you're Jewish, you're able to go to Israel.
It doesn't matter if a Palestinian, a Palestinian could be born there.
His grandparents could have been born there.
His parents could be born there.
They've now left.
They can't come back.
But someone who is a Jewish person automatically has the right to return just because of being Jewish.
So coming back to it, what about somebody who's in US politics and they're able to destroy America and then have the right to return and go back to America?
It's crazy.
So in my view, them people should not be allowed.
Now, the question for that is, you're going to ban all Jewish people from American politics.
So my counter to that is, stop the supremacist, racist, right-to-return policy in Israel, and then you won't have an issue.
They'll never get rid of that because that's how they staff the IDF. That's a critical component for their population to be able to staff.
That's why it's mandatory service.
And that's why they're able to destroy the UK and the US and Western civilization and the white race through these various mediums.
You had a question, sorry.
You said, how do you solve it?
I'm still waiting for a solution.
Yeah, so the solution is that basically you have, in my view, there's a few solutions, right?
There needs to be Christians and Muslims who basically, in my view, have an alliance and create a pact...
That is equally as dominant as these to push back against the Zionist control.
And so you have a scenario where these pacts are able to influence politics before the American people or for the British people as opposed to for Israel.
And they know this is the case.
Like, look, they've passed a bill today, isn't it?
Where they're going to ban...
We should go through that bill.
Yeah.
Let's pull up the tweet real quick.
Actually, shit, I got to send you the link, right?
I'll send you the link so you have it.
Go ahead.
So they basically produced a bill that got passed through Congress.
And it's unfathomable that such a bill could be passed, right?
Because it's making it illegal in educational establishments to basically question the Holocaust.
Basically to say that Jews killed Jesus, to say that basically Jewish people run the entertainment industry, the media industry, the government.
So when you're banning this type of speech in a country that was established based on the First Amendment, right?
What makes America dominant compared to any other country in the world?
It doesn't matter if they're Arab countries, it doesn't matter if they're Asian countries, even Britain, the country I'm in, is the First Amendment.
Why did the founding fathers create the constitution and make that the First Amendment?
Because they knew that this was going to be the thing that ensures that this society stays strong as it is.
And yet now they're basically banning free speech.
And it's completely horrific.
And I want to talk about the college protests as well once we go through this.
I mean, they banned TikTok too.
But again.
Again, yeah.
Why did they ban TikTok?
And the worst thing about TikTok is, TikTok's not free speech, right?
Like you can't put Tate's name in there, isn't it?
It's banned.
You basically- We're banned.
But you're banned on TikTok as well.
We're banned on TikTok, yeah.
So it's not completely free speech, right?
But it's just not controlled by Zionist.
And so because it's not controlled by them, they want to ban it.
In reality, if you put Palestinian content, it still is suppressed.
But the whole world is with Palestine so much, hence why my account blows up, hence why I'm the most engaged political account on Twitter.
It's not because of any other reason, but the world is with Palestine.
And so in reality, they can't suppress that.
So as much as they suppress it, it's literally just natural and organic.
Yeah.
So we're pulling up the tweet right now.
You got it?
Let's see it, guys.
So here's the tweet, man.
And this is really scary, actually, that this is coming.
I'll read it.
Breaking House approves bill to define anti-Semitism 320-91.
Zero dem nays, 21 GOP nays.
Protecting Israel from criticism is more important than Americans' free speech rights.
The following examples of anti-Semitism will apply in public life, the media, the schools.
The workplace and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context include, but are not limited to, calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
That's fair enough.
I agree with that one.
I just want to give this quick thing.
When I see people ripping down the posters of the people that were kidnapped, I'm like, what the fuck?
What's wrong with you?
There's no benefit to it.
Yeah, you make pro-Palestinians look like idiots.
And then number two, it's like violence against civilians, regardless of where they're from, is unacceptable.
No, no, but look, come in on that.
The problem is this.
So I agree with you.
I wouldn't rip up posters because I just think it's lame, right?
But I understand if someone wanted to, and I'll explain to you why.
I came to Miami, right?
And I'm like massive billboard, propaganda billboard, literally saying these people have been kidnapped by Hamas, right?
That is a massive...
I know we live in a designist state, right?
So it's going to happen, right?
But a massive billboard, that's purely there for propaganda.
Why does an average American from Miami need to see that?
So I can see why...
Where was that billboard?
It was in Miami Beach.
Was it the bring-in-the-home one?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I haven't seen one of those in Miami.
Yeah, I just saw it.
Well, Miami Beach.
Yeah.
It's Miami Beach.
Pride Day!
Yeah, yeah, sorry, continue.
All right, okay, so...
Miami Beach has, yeah.
Okay, you guys will know better.
But my point is, coming back to it, so that's a massive propaganda piece.
Yeah.
When I saw it, I was like, that is so bad.
I can see why somebody wouldn't be like, you know what, why should that be?
What about the 150 kids you're killing a day, hundreds of kids you're killing and murdering a day?
What about the women you're murdering a day?
What about the men civilians who you're murdering every single day?
Like, what about them?
So when you're not putting that in and you're doing this propaganda piece, I can see why someone could be infuriated and say, this is propaganda and I'm going to remove this propaganda.
So I understand the logical premise behind it.
Okay, so you can see there why they do it.
I still...
Okay, I can see your perspective for sure.
I wouldn't do it myself.
I just think it's lame, but I can see why they did it.
Yeah, I think the important thing is like, the death of innocent people, you know, civilians is never good.
And I look at it like whether they're Jewish or they're Muslim or whatever, or Palestinian, Christian Palestinians, a lot of Christian Palestinians are dying right now too.
Yeah, a lot of Christian Palestinians.
They're bombing churches too, you know what I mean?
This isn't just like they're killing Muslim Palestinians.
They're killing a lot of Christian Palestinians.
The Palestinian population is being decimated.
They literally snipered two Christian women, right, a few months ago.
And shout out to Tucker Carlson for doing that interview and bringing light to that because a lot of people don't know that a lot of Christian Palestinians are dying too.
But just on the point about you saying about Jewish people being killed on October the 7th, of course they were, right?
But that attack by Hamas wasn't against Jewish people.
It was against the state.
And hence why, even in the debates I was in, the Zionists were literally like, oh, and Muslims were killed as well.
So Muslim Israelis were killed as well.
What that demonstrates is it wasn't an attack on Jews.
If Hamas is going in and killing Muslim Israelis, well, Arab Israelis or Muslim Israelis or whatever, it means it's not an attack on Jews, it's an attack on the state.
That's the first thing.
Another thing what I want to say is, because it's just come to my mind.
I've read the Hamas Charter, right?
Both the 1986 Charter as well as the 2017 Charter.
Nowhere does it say they want to murder Jews.
This is fake news.
In the Hamas Charter, you know what it says?
It literally says, we want to take control.
Obviously, they want to run the country themselves.
But they're like, we want to run the country, a country where Muslims, Christians and Jews live in security and equal rights.
So Hamas are saying, if we control this country, we would...
And again, I know Hamas is a terrorist organization.
But through violence.
No, how is it through violence?
Because if you take control of the country...
Because the whole point is, you're in control of the country.
How are you going to treat Jewish people?
So their claim is that you're going to eradicate Jewish people.
But actually they're not.
They're saying Jewish people, Christians and Muslims, are going to live in safety and security and with equal rights.
Which is very much different than the Israeli state...
Which literally has an apartheid system where there isn't equal rights.
Because what do Israel want?
They've said clearly they don't want a two-state solution.
Yahoo has been caught multiple times.
They've said it.
They don't want a two-state solution because they say, we don't want danger on our border, right?
But then they say they don't want one-state solution.
A one-state solution is the most democratic Western value thing that we can have, where all man is equal, all man has equal rights.
It doesn't matter your race, religion, creed.
We all have equal rights.
If everyone had equal rights, you know who the majority would be in that nation.
It would be Palestinians, and hence why they don't want to give them a one-state solution as well.
So you don't want to give them a two-state solution.
You don't want to give them a one-state solution.
It's because you want to give them a zero-state solution.
Genocide and ethnic cleansing.
That's the reality of it.
Okay, I see what you're saying now.
That makes more sense.
Yeah, and I mean, historically, if you look at the Ottoman Empire, it's one of the few empires, actually, that Jews were able to live in peace and not be persecuted as badly as other places.
It was under Muslim rule.
Well, 100%.
Shmoli himself said, oh, you know, these Catholics, they abused us.
Christians abused us, but Muslims were nice to us.
Yeah, because the religions are so alike.
You can eat halal food.
Sorry, I mean, you can eat kosher food.
Yeah, I mean, you can eat food of the people of the book.
So Christianity and Judaism and the people of the book is all included.
So Islam has a respect for all religions.
You can basically eat their food and you can marry their women.
So we have that in terms of Christianity and Judaism.
Yeah.
Yeah, because a lot of people, like a Ben Shapiro or whatever, they say, well, Hamas calls for the genocide of Jews.
It's fake.
Okay.
Where is it?
Because it's against the state of Israel, not necessarily the Jewish people.
Even then, they literally say, we want to dismantle the state, but not against the Jews.
This is what I'm trying to say.
So if you look at it, their charter says, we're going to let these religions live in peace.
They actually mention Jews specifically, because in the updated charter, they say generally all religions.
But in the early charter, they literally say all religions are going to live equally.
So if they're going to have all, how are Jews going to live equally if they've all been murked?
If they're all being killed, they're not going to live equally.
Because in reality, they're not going to kill the Jews.
That doesn't say in the Hamas Charter.
And I've done a thread on the Hamas Charter.
It literally does not say that.
It's just fake propaganda, again, by the media.
Would you say it's because it's written in Arabic that they were able to kind of distort it?
No, no.
We've got the Hamas Charter in English.
I think, I believe Yale translated it.
And I think I got it from Harvard.
So it's been translated.
Okay.
But I'm saying, like, the people that are, you know, that criticize it, that say that, hey, these guys are...
No, no, they're relying on the fact that you're not going to do the research.
So when they say, oh, Hamas has got this in charge, they want to kill all Jews, they're hoping that you don't read it.
So when someone like, for example, me, does the research and shows, like, actually, Hamas' charter says this, they're not ready for it.
Because we know all the articles that literally say that everyone's going to have equal rights.
Okay.
Shit, did you have something fresh?
So basically you're saying they just put it out there and they think you're going to believe it face for what it is.
But when you do the research, you're going to find the truth about it in the long term.
Yeah, yeah.
So if you look at the Hamas Charter, that's what it says.
It's actually the Likou Charter, the Israeli Charter that says we want to take the land from the river to the sea, right?
So in reality, it's actually Israeli politicians who keep saying we want to bomb Gaza and destroy it.
We want to ethnically cleanse it.
And it's actually, you know, they keep saying jihad.
Like, if you look at Hamas, Hamas have not said anything from that perspective, right?
They're saying it from a, we want our land.
It's more of a nationalistic perspective, right?
We want our land.
We want our soil.
We want to basically fight back.
It's the Israelis who are using biblical, Judaic scripture.
And making it into a holy war.
So when they say we want to kill the Amalek, right?
Amalek basically means somebody who they want to go to war with.
And in the text it says, who are the Amalek?
They say they want to kill the men, the women, the children, the suckling babies, and even the livestock.
That's what the religious text says.
So that shows and demonstrates what this psychology is.
It's an extremist.
Religious psychology.
And so just like how we have ISIS in Islam, right?
And all of us disavow ISIS and its extremist ideology.
The difference is with Zionist, which is the extremist ideology within Judaism, that's not being disavowed.
And that's the problem you've got.
I want to stress, too, that not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.
People tend to think that, oh, just because you're Jewish, you must be a Zionist.
That's not true at all.
Hell, I've seen a lot of Orthodox Jewish people marching with the pro-Palestinians up in New York.
A lot of them don't believe that Israel should be a state because, if I'm not mistaken in their text, they can't have Israel until the Messiah comes, if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah, the Holy Temple.
If they rebuild the temple before the Messiah comes, it'll get destroyed for a thousand years.
Now, and you're right, there is Orthodox Jews who- A lot of them.
And you're right also- The super religious ones.
Yeah, and not just that, liberal Jews.
Like I had- Yeah, them too.
So if you look at, for example, in the university protests, a huge number of liberal Jews and conservative Jews are in their protests.
Yeah.
And let's talk about them protests, right?
Because I think we're in there.
Did you have something that you want to say before the protests?
Just real quick, are you aware of the red heifer and what that signifies for?
Yeah, I mean, look, again, I don't like to go too much into the red heifer thing because, again, I respect Judaism, but obviously they believe that if you sacrifice the red heifer, that is going to cause certain eschatological events to occur, and hence why there is the propensity to do so.
But look, Islam, Christianity and Judaism has eschatological texts and many of them believe that certain eschatological...
That's why I say we respect Judaism.
I respect Judaism a lot, right?
I respect it as a theology.
So we all have these kind of eschatological texts.
The problem is when extremists try and use those eschatological texts for their own benefit.
And this is the better example of it.
So, in my theory, they're all waiting for this messiah to come.
Each group, each party, each state.
But the Red Heifer signifies him coming, or him already being here.
When the Red Heifer is sacrificed, that is the step towards a chain of events that will cause the messiah to come.
But aren't they going to do it pretty soon?
It was meant to be April 23rd, so it's passed.
They did it, like, about a week ago.
They did?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit.
About a week ago!
But look, everyone has this issue.
Holy moly!
I thought we saw it in two more months.
Hey, man.
They killed the red cow?
I'm enjoying life right now, bro.
Oh, it's over.
Okay.
Oh, my goodness.
But look, every religion has that, and every religion has extremists within their religion.
Of course, of course.
So, like, that aspect.
Look, for example, now.
When you come to it, look, ISIS is an example, right?
So we disavow ISIS immediately.
But then we do have some Muslims who basically support some of the ISIS ideology, right?
And so as an example, I'm a big believer in...
I hold the position that actually Syria should never have been destroyed, right?
Because it was a Western agenda to destroy Syria.
And so a lot of these people who are kind of like...
Well, it's part of the clean break memo.
Yeah, exactly.
To destabilize Syria.
Destabilize Syria.
But if you look at Syria itself, I know people claim that Assad was harsh.
But in reality, Assad was...
His father was Alawi, Shia.
Himself...
People claim he was Shia, but someone provided me with the evidence that he's Shia because his teachers were Sunni, right?
So Sheikh Ramadan al-Buti...
Can you describe for the audience real quick what the difference is between Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims?
Of course, of course.
So the difference between Sunni and Shia Muslims started initially because there was a disagreement between who was going to be the successor after the Prophet, peace be upon him.
So the vast majority Sunnis believe there should have been Abu Bakr.
The Shia Muslims believed should have been Ali.
That's one of the kind of political disagreements.
There's theological disagreements as well.
So from a theological perspective, for example, the Shias believe the 12 Imam are basically perfect, whereas Sunnis do not.
In addition to that, like from a theological perspective, when it comes to Sunnis, Sunni is not like a homogenistic...
For example, within Sunnis, a lot of these Dawah guys who you've had some interaction with...
Most of the Muslim population is Sunnis.
Most of the Muslim population is Sunnis, but then within Sunnis, you've basically got Sufis, you've got Salafists, you've got Hanafis, Maliki, Shafis, you've got a wide range of beliefs and sects.
The people who dominate the Dawah scene are people who are social media personalities, are mainly from the Salafist sect.
And Dawah is basically Arabic for spreading the word.
Spreading the word.
Spreading the word for the audience.
You know the ones who debate Christians or the people who want to debate people or people who want to almost become the representative.
They're mainly from that sect.
So they kind of believe in kind of like an anthropomorphized version of Islam.
That's why I find it hilarious when people come and when Muslims when they try and debate Christians I just find it hilarious because I'm like you guys hold the same position.
Like from a logical perspective if Christians believe that Jesus can be within time and space and you guys believe that God can be within heaven That's something created and that's something created.
So I think that's ridiculous.
Hence why, and I don't like debating Christians anyway, because remember you offered me as well.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I just think like there's much more bigger agendas like the Zionist agenda rather than debating Christians.
And now coming back to it, look, the problem you have within Islam is...
And my position on Islam is a bit different to most people.
For me, I hold the position that...
So, there's people who are Quranists who only believe in the Quran.
And then you have people who are Hadithists who just believe in Hadith, right?
Really?
And they don't...
I'm sorry, they value Hadith above the Quran.
Oh, okay, okay.
And so what happens is...
And what is a Hadith, just for the audience so they know?
Hadith is a narration of the Prophet.
And so what happens is the Quranists call me a Hadithist and the Hadithists call me a Quranist.
Because what happens is I value the Quran above anything else because it's the word of God.
It's perfection.
Whereas Hadith is a narration.
The narration could be right or wrong.
And then we've got to analyze.
Everyone believes you analyze whether it's authentic or not.
Now why this is important is why I'm going through this kind of process to explain that is because I agree with most people on 99% of Hadith.
But there's like a 1% that I disagree with.
That always starts the arguments.
That's what starts the arguments.
But that 1% is if it contradicts the Quran or there's highly problematic issues with it.
So for example, the Quran says there is no compulsion in religion.
Right?
Okay.
So it means you have freedom of religion.
Yeah.
You can't force others.
Yeah.
You can't force others.
My parents are Quranists.
So they always just tell me that.
Yeah.
So I'm not a Quranist.
They're on the Quran.
Like that's...
But maybe they're not Quranists, but they just take the Quran over Hadith.
Yes.
They take the Quran over the...
They take the Quran every single time over the Hadith.
But whereas if a Hadith doesn't contradict, then they'll take the Hadith.
Yeah.
I presume.
Yeah.
So that's what I am.
Right?
Yeah.
So it's not a Quranist.
Because Quranists are like, we don't accept any of the Hadith.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Yes.
Yeah.
So...
Quran over Hadith.
Yeah.
So now, Hadith says, if anyone changes the religion, kill them.
So that's a direct contradiction.
Right?
So for me, I will always take the Quran.
For example, you know, Age of Aisha.
So a lot of these, I think, to hold the position that the prophet had sex with a nine-year-old, I think is a paedophilic position.
Right?
And it's from Hadith.
That's one of the biggest criticisms.
Yeah.
It's not from Quran.
Right?
And the hadith itself, the narrators are problematic.
For example, one of the narrators is Hisham bin Urwa.
He had problems with his memory.
So when he went to Iraq, scholars said, do not take from him because he had memory issues when he was in his older age.
And that's when he narrated this hadith.
Damn!
I don't accept that Aisha was nine.
So as an example, that's where I disagree with them.
So that's why someone like Laura Luma...
And that's one of the biggest talking points when they criticize Islam is they say, well, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a pedophile.
That's what they say.
Whereas actually in their text, they actually say that you can have relations with a three-year-old.
What?
In the Hadith?
No, no, in Jewish text.
Oh, in Jewish text.
Oh, yes.
So my point is, when someone like Laura Luma tries to attack Islam, it literally says it in Judaism.
That's why I try to say anything they're trying to attack Islam about, Judaism is a million times harsher or has had problematic issues.
And also, people need to understand, back in that time, the age of consent was way lower because life expectancies were lower.
Obviously, I don't agree with it.
It's fucking disgusting.
However, you also got to account for the time.
The problem is when...
So they used to do marriage.
So, you know, bequeath.
They used to bequeath people at a young age.
But when did they actually...
I've not seen...
Because I looked into this.
When did they actually have sex with them?
No.
It didn't happen.
That's gross.
What is the age of consent in your opinion?
In my opinion, it's when a person has matured physically.
And mentally.
So, for example, at the Hanafi school, Imam Abu Hanifa has a position.
It's in a text, Al-Fasool.
And it says in there that he believed it was 16 or 18.
Because he said that the mind is...
Between 16 to 18?
Yeah, yeah.
And he said that because the mind is developed enough and physically you're developed enough to be able to make a decision.
In terms of Aisha as well, we have hadith.
That actually say, they don't say the exact age, but they indicate that she was actually 18.
So for example, she was 10 years younger than her older sister.
And her older sister was born a certain amount of years after certain events that occurred, and so on and so forth.
And in that time, they never used to say, look, a person's 10, 15, 20.
They used to say, I was born so many cycles after the event of this battle.
I was born so many cycles after this event of feel.
So again, the Hadith has some kind of like issues with it.
Gotcha.
But I accept the other hadith that actually indicate that she was 18.
Okay, so does the Quran put an age on her or no?
No, no.
The Quran doesn't mention it at all.
Oh.
And that's why I'm saying when these Islamophobes try and attack Islam, the Quran doesn't say, you will never, and I mean ever, find any, in my view, find anything problematic in the Quran.
Okay.
But hadith is by man, a man can make mistakes.
And then now that you mentioned the whole situation where that hadith came from a particular individual that had memory issues...
Yeah, I can see.
See, and of course, most people are not gonna dig into the weeds and see, well, why is that, etc?
So I don't really talk that much about Islam, unless Islamophobes talk about it.
So cause like, for example, again, I keep mentioning her, but it's cause she's one of the main people I interact with in Twitter who are kind of like destroyed.
So like Laura Loomer...
You're her and Tommy are the main people you interact with?
Not Tommy Robinson doesn't interact with me.
It's Laura Loomer.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So like, for example, she was trying to attack...
I know she attacked Hijab and Hijab didn't have a response to her.
But in terms of me, when she tried to do the same attack on me, I basically destroyed her and I was literally...
she had no response because I don't hold that position.
Okay, interesting.
And yeah, I mean, in age of consent, you know, most U.S. states is between 16 and 18.
Man, it should be 18.
Yeah, yeah, 18, yeah, for real facts.
I think these other, these southern states that have it at 15, 16, y'all crazy, bro.
Hell nah.
But what's worse is when they cap up with their age.
When they get lied about their age.
Oh, when girls lie about their age.
Yeah, that's even worse.
Yeah, that's fucking terrible.
What else do we got here?
I'll settle the debate, man.
I'll make it happen.
I think it would be a good discussion.
She ain't gonna do it.
Neither is Tommy Robinson.
They're too scared.
They rely on the fact that they're talking to people who are either not able to counter their arguments or have highly problematic views themselves and therefore they're trying to defend very difficult positions.
I'll hit her up and I'll see, man.
She's not a coward.
I'll hit her up.
What else do we got here?
Oh, no, no, we were going through the Congress thing, the bill.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We all, obviously, you know, attacking Jews physically and wishing death upon them like you're a fucking weirdo.
Yeah, we agree with that.
But the next one, Jewish conspiracy.
Are Jews controlling the media, economy, government, or societal institutes?
Now, you can disagree with that.
You can say, no, it's not Jews, it's Zionists.
And my position isn't it's Jews.
I think it's a Zionist because as you said, there's a lot more Christian Zionists than there are Jewish Zionists, right?
Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah.
Yeah, so I hold that position.
But if somebody wants to hold that position, why can't they?
That's the problem.
So when we're in the land of the free speech, there should be complete free speech.
Yeah, you should be able to say, yeah.
And there was much worse than that.
It was like denial of the Holocaust was on there.
There was, if you said that Jews- Keep going through it, pull it up.
If you said Jews killed Jesus, you could basically get in trouble.
But isn't that religious scripture?
That is true.
It's factual.
Fresh, you're the guy that almost became a pastor.
Listen, man.
I'm going to put it this way, bro.
I'll put it this way.
In the last days, wrong will be right, right will be wrong.
And I stand strong in my beliefs.
That's what I'm going to say.
That's what Pastor Fresh is.
Isn't it fair to say that whether it's Protestant, Christian, Roman Catholic, whatever denomination you are, don't they all universally agree that Jesus was killed by the Jews?
Have no fear.
Jesus came to die for our sins, and that is true.
Let's keep moving.
Pasta fresh.
Pasta fresh sounds like a politician.
Hey man, I should be a politician.
You know what?
It's okay, because I talked to the forbidden one, aka Exodia, and you confirmed that all denominations agree.
Y'all know who I'm talking about.
I'm going to call him Exodia from now on.
Do you know why I'm so averse to this?
I'm in politics behind the scenes.
I got shit going on in the back for us.
I can't be in this mess, man.
That's why I'm doing this shit.
You're going to lose your patronage as a pastor.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
It's fine, chat.
I confirmed with someone already.
I'm not practicing right now.
You just become a Muslim and then, you know, you can purify yourself of the sins.
It's funny, I have a half Christian family, half Muslim family.
Yeah.
And I go back between both to see, like, what's the discrepancies.
And I do believe that Islam is great.
But when it comes to end times, what's happening right now, the Bible has direct evidence.
And what we see now what's happening is in the Bible versus the Quran.
Like what?
So we mentioned the Red Haffer.
We mentioned as well the Dead Sea.
I'm sorry, the Red Sea.
No, sorry.
What's it called?
The...
Tribulances.
The what story?
Disasters.
Okay.
Earthquakes.
As well as, like, right being wrong, wrong being right.
Women becoming more promiscuous.
Yeah.
All these things happening.
Yeah.
And it's written.
Yeah.
Yeah, we have that.
We have that.
So basically, when it comes to eschatology, Islam and Christianity is very similar.
Very similar, yeah.
Very similar.
Because even both believe that basically Jesus is going to return, right?
And both believe that it's Jesus who's going to purify the earth.
Now, there's a disagreement because obviously Muslims believe he's in… But who he is as an individual, that's where we differ from Christian and… So I would say...
I think your position is very similar to Salafist.
Because you think he's a prophet, and I believe he will be the son of God.
Yeah, you believe that.
So we believe he's a prophet, but we believe that he was divinely inspired.
A prophet is divinely inspired, whereas you believe he's divine.
We can agree to disagree there.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, I don't debate with Christians.
When I was younger, I used to debate, right?
And I used to debate with Salafis and say, look, you believe in anthropomorphism.
You guys are Christian.
I used to say that to them because they believe, like, for example, if you believe God's sitting on a throne, which is a creation of God, Then how is that different to God being inside Jesus' body or God being Jesus?
So like, I used to do these debates all the time, but now I just think they're fruitless.
And really, there's not much difference.
I don't actually think there's much difference between all three monotheistic religions.
I think when it comes from a legal aspect, Islam and Judaism is very similar.
And when it comes from a theological aspect, Islam and Christianity are very similar.
Interesting.
Okay.
All right.
I just think at the end of the day, when this is all over, we'll know who's right and who's wrong.
We will indeed.
Well, in the Quran, doesn't it say all Abrahamic religious followers will eventually go to heaven?
No, it doesn't say that directly in Quran.
That's more of like a perennialist position.
So there is perennialist positions within Islam which believe that all religions, irrespective, as long as you believe in God.
At some point.
At some point, you will all lead back to God.
But that's more of a niche, perennialist position.
I still, I respect a lot of scholars who have perennialist positions, because maybe you could be a perennialist and be in any religion.
But it's not the orthodox Islamic position.
Are you a practicing Muslim?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm not practicing Christianity.
At all.
Okay, let's keep moving.
Let's keep this shit moving.
That was an easy one, but I won't go down that.
This one's crazy.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel.
Luma would get me on that one.
And then denying Jewish people their right to self-determination, applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
No, but this is bad.
Look at this.
To claim that, for example, Israel is partaking in racist behavior.
Which they actually are.
What are you talking about?
That is mental.
Yeah, that is crazy.
That is wild.
And this is all...
So, it's been passed.
It isn't legislative yet.
It's not, I guess, official official yet.
But it's like, this is where we're going, guys.
This is scary shit, man.
It is, it is.
Basically...
I called it...
You know the worst thing is, Zionists have destroyed your country internally.
Just think about it.
For me, I respect the Constitution a lot.
You know what it is?
Yeah.
Remember the Trojan horse?
When they came to the city?
Yeah, yeah.
That's literally what it is.
Same thing.
100%.
So look.
I respect the Constitution a lot.
And what I love about the Constitution is, first of all, if you look at the people, the founding fathers, they weren't of one religion.
There were a variety of religions.
You had Christians, you had Deists, you had Masons.
They all came together and created the Constitution, right?
And if you look at the Constitution itself, it is an awesome, awesome piece of document.
And the fact that they're basically destroying the Constitution in real time, that demonstrates the level of destruction that they're having in this country.
And let me just bring that back to what we're going through right now.
You've seen the college protests.
This again has demonstrated that the masks are off completely for everyone.
Because the right wing, some of the MAGA people were crying about Jan 6, right?
And yet now when the shoe's on the other foot, they want the protest to stop.
They want to ban the students.
They want to imprison the students.
They're attacking free speech.
And you know what the college students are doing?
They are being more American than anyone else.
Because if you look at how America was built, How did it start?
You guys revolted against the Brits, right?
You did a revolution, you did a rebellion.
You guys in 1776.
In 1776, and you threw the bits out, right?
But they didn't just stop there.
It's been in the entire fabric of American history.
You look at, for example, slavery.
You know, the guy who caused, in my view, the biggest impact on the end of slavery was a guy called John Brown.
John Brown was a white Christian man.
Very religious.
Very religious.
He was very strict on his children.
He didn't even use physical punishment when they basically broke the rules and so on and so forth.
But extremely religious.
And he, how did he, what did he do?
He first started speaking to the plantation owners and he was like, look, this is kind of messed up.
Like, why is this happening?
You know, you shouldn't be doing this.
And then they weren't listening to him or he was thinking it's not happening.
Then what he did was he start basically helping some slaves out of slavery, right?
Physically.
And like one of the incidents is this woman who literally has her brain damaged, right?
Because of the abuse that she's going through and he helps her out.
And then he kind of starts taking care of her.
And then this guy escalated so much, he took on the United States government.
He went to an armory in Vermont, I believe it was, and he literally took over it, right?
He took on the US Army.
And there was a mistake made, like for example, you know that woman, because she had mental health issues, because of brain damage, she ended up causing problems.
And so because of that, what happened was...
He got caught and then he got bit.
He was the very first person to receive the death penalty in the United States.
John Brown?
John Brown, yeah.
He is the G. He is literally the very thing that is about being American.
And he ended up having a significant impact on Douglas Frederick.
And then that ended up having an impact on the end of slavery in America.
So Frederick Douglass was inspired by him.
Yeah, yeah.
They met each other and so on and so forth.
And Frederick Douglass writes about John Brown in his book.
So when he has this...
So again, what did he do?
He rebelled.
He took on the US government.
These guys would be like, oh, no, no, don't be taking on the...
You know, don't be protesting.
Do not stop the highways and so on.
That's literally the most American thing you do.
Rosa Parks, what did she do?
She literally broke the rules and stood there.
Vietnam, what happened?
You guys literally protest, college student protest, and you stop the Vietnam War.
Literally, protests have been the very fabric of American culture, and yet what's happened is society...
And the media, Zionist control media, have made the right wing believe that protesting is a bad thing.
That actually doing, even protesting where you kind of infringe on the rules is problematic.
They've conditioned you.
Why?
Because when you don't protest, you don't go against those in power.
And who's in power?
It's the Zionists.
And so hence reason why.
So I say huge credit to the students.
It doesn't matter what walk of life they're from, whether they're liberal or conservative.
They've literally become the most American.
This is one topic, honestly, that absolutely has the conservatives and liberals together is, you know, the Palestine issue, for sure.
I agree.
It has everyone.
But what the manipulation the media is doing now is they're trying to make the protest into like a left-wing issue when it's not.
It's literally universal.
Yeah, those conservatives definitely don't agree with what's going on.
I mean, it's conservative controlled media who are manipulating the conservatives to think that.
But in reality, when you look at what's happening in the college protests, it's people from all walks of life who are literally talking about this and literally fighting against this.
And so what's the reason that they want to stop college protests?
Because they want to control the minds of the youth.
And the youth are waking up.
You control the boomers.
Yeah, you control the boomers and you manipulate them into putting foreign interests before American interests.
And now they can no longer control.
And that's the problem they have.
Yeah, that's why the ADL is pushing really hard to get rid of TikTok because it's like a 70-30 split between support for Palestine versus Israel.
But what I'll ask you is this then.
So what would you say to people that might criticize you and say, well, these people are breaking the law.
These guys are occupying, they're trespassing into buildings.
They're holding people and they can't leave, etc.
What would you say to that?
People who are trespassing.
Yeah, like breaking into...
Like in Colombia, I think they broke into like a hall, a certain student hall.
So let me be clear.
So first of all, these claims that have happened from Colombia in terms of anti-Semitism, the vast majority are fake.
For example, there was a video where students were hand-locking and it looked like they were stopping a Jewish student from going in, which we're all against, right?
But then I ended up finding another video where it actually shows that very student physically assaulting Children in Colombia.
And so the reason they did it was because they didn't want escalation.
Ah.
So they knew he was going to get violent, that guy.
No, because he already had been violent.
So it was to stop...
It's a curly-haired dude, right?
Sorry?
It's a curly-haired guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that fucking guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you basically had a scenario where, for example, there was somebody with a poster saying, Hamas is next target.
And Propaganda Co and a few others basically exposed the fact that that was actually an Israeli who did it on purpose to basically get the fake claims of anti-Semitism.
Wow, isn't that crazy?
So a lot of these claims of anti-Semitism, actually last night we saw that it was actually the Israeli pro-Israel students who had physically assaulted, physically abused the students.
It's the actual pro-Israel who are trying to literally make it into a violent situation.
I give credit to the students that they're not basically kowtowing to that and making it into a huge violation.
It's an embarrassment to America that they are now allowing these students to have free speech for the Zionists.
And a lot of Americans are waking up because they're saying, wait a sec, BLM riots were allowed.
And no one did nothing.
Joel Floyd!
Yeah, exactly.
They burned Minneapolis to the ground, dude.
And yet, these students who have mostly, almost all of them, peacefully protested.
It has been mostly peaceful.
They're trying to paint it as it's not, but it has been mostly peaceful.
It's extremely peaceful.
We have a guest that has a comment.
Laura Loomer is right here.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
She says in not so many words, why are you so obsessed with me or talking about me?
Keep my name out of your mouth.
I'm far from dumb.
More successful than you ever will be, Suleiman.
All you have is personal insults, so fuck off.
I would say what a brilliant academic articulate Rebuttal.
Not.
So, again, the reason I mention her is because we've had interactions on social media where I've destroyed her and then she mentioned me on Infowars and then when she was offered a debate, she was too scared.
And the reason she's so scared is because she is Essentially destroying America based on her Israeli first ideology.
Because she does have the right to return.
And based on that, she's able to destroy America.
Listen, Laura Loomer, if you are a true American, why are you not speaking out against this bill?
Why have you been asking for these students who are...
Basically using their free speech to speak against power.
Why are you trying to stop and silence them?
And it's because it's not about these people want to destroy the First Amendment and they want to destroy free speech.
Ain't nobody obsessed with you.
It's just your points are so ridiculous that someone needs to rebut them and that's what's happened.
I'll set up the debate.
I'll set it up.
Don't be scared, Nora.
I'll set it up between you guys.
It'll be a good, respectful discussion between the two of you.
And, yeah, because I get along with both of you guys.
You know that song with Cassie?
Is it Cassie?
No.
Why are you so obsessed with me?
This guy, bro.
Who is that?
And one point I want to make, right, is because I know you were getting some attacks, right, in terms of Luma.
I have no issue with you having Luma on.
I'm all for free speech, right?
And actually, I looked at the video because, you know, I don't base it I think it's important to hear both perspectives.
She's able to say what she wants to say.
You're able to say what you want to say.
I've got no issue with that, right?
And if you look at it in the video, you're kind of like distracted.
You're doing something else on the side when she's making the comment.
And in addition to that, she doesn't even mention the Prophet Muhammad.
So when people are saying, oh, you didn't back the Prophet Muhammad, it's fake news because she didn't even mention it.
The two points she mentioned have already destroyed them.
Pretty sure you noticed that, man.
I pretty sure you mentioned that.
Yeah, I was getting my notebook because I was like getting the girl's information.
You're still on point, bro.
Holy!
No, you gotta research, isn't it?
You can't let fake news come out, isn't it?
No, I appreciate you taking my side on that one, man.
You know, people are gonna always, you know, they all went crazy.
You had this evil Zionist on, blah, blah, blah.
No, no, I think, you know, when you have someone like her on, then it is imperative that even if you don't push back then, that you immediately have somebody on there who's able to counter that point.
So obviously you've had me on, you've had other people on.
So yeah, you've done that.
I don't have Laura back again because me and her align with Trump for sure.
We're both huge Trump supporters.
Well, I thought Trump was good for America based on his foreign policy because there was no new wars, right?
But unfortunately, when people and Zionists are basically pushing Trump to make the most terrible decisions...
His son-in-law is a Zionist.
Yeah, exactly.
And so for that reason...
You can't escape it, bro.
No, but just think about it.
If you didn't have the Zionists, right?
Let's say he just stayed quiet right now.
Or he even made some kind of ban statement.
He would win the election easily.
But it's the Zionists who are basically risking the election for him to make him so extremely pro-Israel.
I think he's going to win no matter what.
Honestly.
Yeah, if it's a fair election.
Yeah, that too, hopefully.
Hey, man.
It's like a smart man.
It's just an unfortunate reality that I've come to realize is if you are not pro-Israel, as an American politician, you will never get a seat in anything of significance.
But Zionists, Isn't that a problem?
Just think about what he's saying.
He is saying that you need to have the interest of a foreign nation in order to even get an opportunity to be successful or have an opportunity to be a politician in America.
America is not America.
America is Israel's vassal state.
This is the problem that we've got.
And America's being destroyed because actually when you look at America and you look at Britain, I love being here.
Hold on.
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
I've said it.
I've called out AIPAC being super involved and backing candidates.
Dude, they're so brazen about it.
It's on their fucking website.
98% of our back candidates win their elections.
I've called it out many times.
Jake Shields has called it out.
You've called it out.
We've all called it out.
Exactly.
It's so deep in now.
Can you become a politician in the United States without being pro-Israel?
I don't think you can unless we change the complete system, which I agree.
We've got to find a way to change the system because I don't think any foreign government should be influencing our political structure.
I don't think any foreign government, whether it's Israel, it's England, no offense, China, Australia, I don't think anybody should influence.
I think nobody should have a second passport.
I think it needs to be America first, 100%.
Fuck all these foreign countries.
Everybody!
No dual citizenship, no right to return to be in US politics unless they stop.
Dude, I'm with you, but I'm looking at things as they are right now and it's like, I just want Trump to get in because outside of the whole situation with AIPAC or whatever for him to get in, he's going to fix other issues in the country.
My concern with Trump is, and I didn't have this concern as much before, my concern with Trump is because now what's happened is we've basically, there's a new window that's been created, right?
So you guys were like talking about Who's a better candidate then?
No, no, so my point is you guys were talking about Zionists before October the 7th, right?
Yeah, we were.
So I'll give you credit for that, right?
Thank you.
And I would say I made it mainstream in terms of Twitter, right?
And so now it's become mainstream everywhere.
Yeah.
Everyone's hearts and minds have opened up.
So now everyone's minds are opened up.
How are you, what are you going to do?
You're basically going to have a scenario where these guys, these fake free speech advocates are going to silence people like they do with the college students, or people are going to wake up and rise up.
And if people do, the youth Are continually going to be basically not pro-Israel.
They're going to be anti-Israel.
And if that's the case, then there's a big change happening in America and Britain.
It's just about when it's going to happen.
It's going to take time, you know, and I think it needs to change.
I don't think any foreign government should ever be influenced.
I mean, John F. Kennedy tried to stop this and what happened to him?
What happened to him?
I mean, Zayos basically ended him, right?
So, it is what it is.
Like, Ryan Dawson's doing some really good work on that, so you should check that out.
He absolutely has.
He absolutely has.
And we'll talk about that for sure in the future.
So, yeah, him and RFK try to get them on Farrah.
So, aren't you scared they're going to end you?
Well, the Zayos did put my name on a missile, didn't they?
Did they?
Yeah, yeah, they did.
And to be honest, when I saw it, I was like more disgusted that that missile was going to be used to kill like women and children and men.
That was what I was more annoyed by.
But later I was told that when Desaios do this, this is kind of like a death threat.
And they literally then do have your kind of, have your information or your number on.
So there is, I mean, I'm not really concerned.
I was, I did think that I wouldn't be allowed in America, actually.
So I was surprised I got in quite easily.
But yeah, you just have got a scenario where, unfortunately...
Shut up to Joe Biden.
Shut up to that nigga, man.
Sorry?
No, Biden.
That's where you got in, bro.
Oh, because of Biden.
That's where you got in, yeah, yeah.
Well...
I mean, Biden's Biden is genocide.
Sleepy Joe!
It's genocide, Joe, isn't it?
So I don't know if you'd want me to basically come in.
What's this yellow thing that's going on here?
No, no, you're good.
It's a chat.
Oh, again?
She's sending you bad money.
Look, sending this money.
Why don't you need a bit?
No, this is true, actually.
She said, she said, AIPAC campaigned against me.
So did the ADL. I'm an American citizen.
I'm America first.
I have done more to help Trump this season than anyone.
Where is the loyalty?
Myron Suleiman is a liar.
Okay, let me address that.
This is true.
ADL went after her crazy.
No, no, so listen.
ADL's masks have been exposed as well.
And this is why I say, right-wing Zionists like Laura Luma, and left-wing Zionists- Man, we're still on this.
We gotta have y'all debate, man.
She's too scared.
And left-wing Zionists like the Krastensteins, right?
The example.
These are the left-wing ones, right?
What they do is they try and make it seem like they're in disagreement.
They'll fight.
But when it comes down to it, they're all part of the same team.
They'll literally throw every one of these minor issues out and they'll all become one team, coalesce, and try and basically destroy their opponents.
So ADL is an example.
They're both on the same side now.
ADL wants to stop the college protests.
She wants to stop the college protests.
They're on the same team.
They're all propagating their lies about October the 7th.
They're all propagating, trying to get people banned who basically even question what happens in October the 7th.
So for me, all these people on the same team, whatever fake outrage they did with each other before is just fake.
Wait, are you saying out of chaos comes order?
Sorry?
Are you saying out of chaos comes order?
Well, no, no, I'm not saying out of chaos, although that is like a quantum mechanics, like certain positions in quantum mechanics.
But what I'm trying to say is, these people have infiltrated, Zionists have infiltrated the left, they've infiltrated the right, they've infiltrated all aspects of society.
So that what happens is, they're able to control conversation.
They're able to control thought.
They're able to control what you talk about.
And then what happens is when it becomes this type of issue, they all become one team.
And they all propagate the same agenda.
So if you look at her tweets and the left-wing Zayo's tweets, they're all the same.
So both of them lied.
So when there was a car, there was an accident that happened on the Canadian-American border.
And it was actually an elderly white couple who got crashed.
Both...
Them, both sides, all claimed that the person had an Iranian passport, which was a lie, which was fake news.
So this is an example of how they pretend that there's disagreement, they pretend these things are happening, but in reality, they're all one team.
I will say this though, the ADL definitely had a hand in getting her banned.
They wrote an article on her literally like a couple days ago.
Like they definitely have worked, and AIPAC as well have worked in getting her banned.
We'll have y'all have this discussion.
But I've seen it with my own eyes.
Like, they literally campaigned to get her banned.
Listen, Laura Loomer...
They get everybody banned.
No, no, wait a second.
Laura Loomer asked for...
So, Elon Musk made a rule, right?
And he said anyone who asked for genocide should be banned.
She asked for the genocide.
She was not banned.
And worse than that, ADL doesn't say nothing about it.
So, in reality, when it comes to real things, these guys know what they're doing.
Minor disagreement, yeah.
Like, oh, you know, she's saying some mean words.
She sounds like a supremacist.
Like, these are all dumb.
Like, she's not...
I mean, she's a Zion supremacist, but she's not, like, a white supremacist, right?
All right.
Where are we at here with the chats?
Anything else?
We have Raphael.
A whale saw me reading your book at work, Myron.
She looked it up and freaked out.
My boss has heard about it.
It turns out one of them has read it too.
It was amazing.
Shout out to you.
Great book.
I'm upset it's so short.
Keep up the great work, guys.
Shout out to Raphael.
Dino.
Hey, freshman Myron.
Great episode Monday on CryptoForecast and Insight.
Really valuable.
Myron, have you seen the ICC conducting charges on...
Them boys?
Yes.
And basically Netanyahu said that he's not going to respect it.
I talked about this.
Again, exposed again because like literally when the ICC charges were against Putin, it was like, oh my God, Putin needs to be arrested, so on and so forth.
And like the people, and then we know certain people weren't signatories of it.
And now they're coming after Netanyahu, like America's having like a...
They're going to veto that.
Spaz attack.
Well, ICC can't veto it, but afterwards you can.
But again, they're having a spaz attack for the Zionist control agenda.
They're going to vote against it.
The United States, I mean.
They always do.
Ricky Siki says, thoughts on the Kashmir conflict?
So in terms of Kashmir itself, so my position is this, that I believe that they should have their own state.
They should have their own country, so I'm neither with the Indian side or the Pakistani side in terms of, you know, that Kashmir should be part of their countries.
I think they should have their own state.
Okay.
What do we got here?
Travon Suki.
Ahmed, interesting idea.
Muslims and Christians band together to turn the current world around.
Who would have thought a thousand years after the Crusades, harmony between the two is the solution?
Nobody would have thought it.
Like today I met Nick Fuentes.
I never thought in a million years you'd have that scenario.
But I talked to him, right?
And to be honest, first of all, he's a very nice person.
And the second thing is they lied a lot about him, right?
They did.
Because I even myself thought that he was like an ethno-nationalist.
He wanted a Christian ethno-nationalist state.
But when I talked to him today, that was clearly not his position.
His position is the same as my position, actually.
That I believe that when it comes to America and UK, it should be majority white Christian and then be a multicultural country.
And that's the parameters of a successful country.
What would you say to people like maybe Adili or Muhammad Hijab that would say, no, we need Muslim law, predominant Muslim country.
What would you say to those guys?
Because you're saying you think it's better to be a Christian.
I think these people who make these arguments...
Again, I say either they're not very smart or they're part of the Zionist agenda.
So as an example, when, for example, there was a march in Germany with them ISIS guys and they were like, we want Sharia.
I was disgusted at them, right?
Like, these guys do not represent us.
They are an extreme...
Do you think Sharia law just doesn't work in general when you have multicultural...
Well, yeah.
No, no.
Sharia law...
In itself, because what is Sharia law?
Sharia law isn't what you think, right?
So Sharia law is basically a framework by which one can basically practice their life.
So for example, what is Sharia law?
It even teaches me how to pray.
It teaches me how to basically clean myself.
It teaches me how to worship God.
So that's part of Sharia.
But then it has certain rules and regulations.
So I don't think Sharia law should ever be in the West, right?
Because it's the Western nations.
Yeah.
In terms of within an Islamic nation, so my concern, I'll be honest with you, is I'm kind of against it in the sense of, and let me be clear in case someone tries to cancel me or the Haram police or whatever, right?
That what type of Sharia law is going to be enacted?
So if it's going to be, for example, based on the Hanafi school, Which is the vast majority of Muslims.
I think that Sharia law is a lot more amiable and makes a lot more sense in my position from a logical perspective.
I'll give you an example of the Hanafi position when it came to homosexuality as an example.
Or the Hanafi position in terms of apostates.
But for example, let's say it was a Sharia law based on what maybe Dili and these lot won.
Then definitely not.
Because these guys are probably trying to kill me as well.
So, no.
Okay, fair enough.
Well, yeah, I mean, I think the audience definitely learned.
So there's different forms of it, and there's different schools of thought in it.
It's not just, behead everybody!
As people think, or thrown off buildings.
So thrown off buildings is nobody's position, except a very extreme ISIS-type Salafi position.
In terms of beheading, we don't even have that in the religion.
In terms of, oh, she mentioned about stoning as well.
She mentioned about stoning, right, in Islam.
So first of all, stoning, again, is not in the Quran, right?
It's hadith.
Right?
And stoning isn't against women because she said it's oppressive against women.
Stoning is when someone...
This is the position, right?
The orthodox position.
If a man and a woman commit adultery and it's actually public because four people have witnessed it, it's only then that you get stoned.
Which is different to Judaism because Judaism, you know what happens?
If a woman, before she's married...
And both people are stoned.
Both are stoned.
But in Judaism, if a woman commits a fornication, so it means had sex before marriage, she's stoned.
Damn!
Yeah.
And if- Because in Islam, you don't get killed for just fornicating.
You get killed if they're married.
Adultery, yeah.
Like actual adultery guys.
Even then you don't get killed.
It's stoning, right?
But even then- Oh, I thought you'd die from stoning.
Well, you could do.
But again, this is not the main position.
There's a variety of positions.
So for example, within the Hanafi school, it's not like you don't stone someone to death.
But I'm just giving the most harsher position based on what she was saying.
Okay.
Right.
So, because actually it's lashing.
And lashing, you don't die from.
Lashing, yeah.
That's what my parents told me when you smash.
Yeah.
You should be getting lashed.
And even the lashing, they show you the parameters.
It's like a paddle.
It's not like in the movies where you see a thingy.
So it's not as harsh as people say.
But anyway, coming back to it.
But in Judaism, for fornication, you get stoned to death.
And for adultery, you basically get strangled to death.
Wait, what?
Oh, you get...
What?
Yeah, the woman gets...
So which is worse, like...
In the Talmud?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
You get strangled?
Yeah, strangled to death.
For adultery?
For adultery.
Just the woman, though.
What does the man get?
Well, actually, I didn't see her, so I think he probably gets let off.
God damn.
Who strangles her?
Like a rabbi?
That's a good question.
Maybe it's the guy.
I don't know.
That's fucking wild.
But look, that's an example of where she's made fake news, fake information, and again, Judaism is a million times harsher than Islam.
Interesting.
Okay.
What else do we have here?
Jay Costa, and we've got to close the show here.
Mr.
Ahmed, putting homos to death was part of the Mosaic Law followed by the Jews.
Christians follow the new law Jesus gave to his followers.
Homo punishment is that they won't inherit God's kingdom.
So that's within...
That's correct.
Yeah, that's correct.
So the Christian position, although it's in the Bible, they basically do not enact that position.
And even within Christian law, because there's certain sects within Christians where they have escalations.
So what will happen is there'll be an escalation and actually death penalty is the final escalation.
So yeah, I agree with that.
Look, I haven't got no issue with Christianity.
I'm just demonstrating the kind of harsh nature of Jewish law.
And again, I've got no issue with Judaism as well.
My whole point is, don't attack Islam for something where it's much more strict than Judaism.
That's my whole point.
I actually don't want to debate.
I actually have a lot of, like, I have Orthodox rabbi friends who I respect greatly, both from a human...
Shmuli?
Sorry, no, definitely not Shmuli.
Oh, here's my brother in the house.
He goes, a high IQ topic that many refuse to study deeply is certain people want us to be divided so no revolt happens.
100%.
They want division.
This is why I'm all for the Muslim-Christian unity.
My brother is very religious.
He prays five times a day.
Oh, is this your actual brother?
This is my actual brother.
Oh, yeah.
So I completely agree with you, brother.
Like, I'm all for the Christian-Muslim unity.
Fight against the Zionist control.
And even Judaism.
Look...
Let me be clear, because again, I don't hold that position.
This nigga's a mukmin, man.
He's a mukmin for real.
Nice.
So even if you look at it, even on this issue, right?
Even on this issue in terms of Israel and Palestine, there's a lot of Jewish people who actually stood and banged.
And they probably do better than most Muslims.
Max Blumenthal, Jewish.
Dan Cohen, Jewish.
Aaron Mate, Jewish.
So all these guys who've helped us expose the lies are Jewish people.
Yeah, and Finkelstein as well, although he's not been debunked on October 7th, he's doing debates about other issues.
I think he believes the propaganda on October 7th.
And same with Christians as well, like all of the Gruyper crew, they've been debunked, helping debunk the lies.
So again, it's Christians, Muslims and Jews who have been debunking.
What else do you got here?
A shout out to the Gryper.
These guys show me a huge amount of love on Twitter, so I do appreciate them.
Oh yeah, shout out to the Grypers.
You guys want my brother to come on?
I'll break him out one day.
Y'all come meet him.
He's black as hell.
He's almost as dark as fresh.
Yo, that'd be cool though.
Your brother's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what you should do?
He's basically like me, bro.
He's a more religious person than me.
We should bring your brother on and bring my sister on.
Yeah?
Yeah, family episode.
The family episode?
Yeah.
Yeah, Maestro Matt says, I married a Muslim woman in West Africa.
We did traditional African and Islamic wedding ceremonies for Passover bros.
There's no way not to get government involved.
How else are you going to get her to the States?
Yeah, if you want to be a Passover bro, that's why we tell y'all, keep them over there, man.
So you don't have to worry about that.
You don't have to do the K visa.
Val6 goes, took your advice on joining Navy.
Currently 18.
Ship on July 9th.
Credit score 586.
Cap on Platmaster.
300 limit.
167 depth.
550 loan from Self Credit Builder.
That I pay $25 a month for 10K Navy bonus advice.
Get your credit score up, my friend.
But that will get up very quickly because you're not going to be spending money.
You're going to be living on the base.
So you'll be fine.
So my only issue with that is, I'm not sure what that advice was given.
But the problem is, at the moment...
When you join the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, you basically, unfortunately, a lot of times you'd be killing innocent people based on the Israeli agenda.
So that's why I would always have issue.
Like, for example, if I was asked to enlist, I would never enlist.
I would do a Muhammad Ali because I don't want to kill innocent people.
I don't want to hurt innocent people.
And I don't want to basically be a tool for the Zionist agenda.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I understand.
I think if you did give them that advice, that was before October 7th.
Or the Russian conflict.
What do we got here?
Because that's another world war that might happen.
Yeah, I mean, Russia are dominating, aren't they?
I hope we don't get involved in that.
Because Ukraine is lost.
Well, the US at the moment haven't got the ability to be fighting on so many fronts.
That's the problem.
Hell no.
And Australia just gave them like $100 million.
The Ukraine.
Yeah.
Well, you guys just gave him 61 billion dollars and he gave what?
20 billion dollars to Israel.
You stupid!
Hey man, not us bro!
I came to LA, was it in 2019?
Yeah.
And I was walking down the street and I was like shocked, like tent after tent after tent.
Oh yeah.
And beggar after beggar.
And I was like, whoa, American beggars and not like British beggars.
Yeah.
Like British beggars seem like, they're like the high class in your country.
They're aggressive here bro.
People are struggling.
People are shivering.
It's really bad.
It's horrific to see.
And then sending money to...
Miami beggars are on another level though.
Sending money to Israel.
I had some leftover food from this Mediterranean spot where I was eating.
Was it Zouk?
It was Zouk before they closed down.
So I was walking by and I had some leftover food and the guy's like, I'm so hungry.
I need some help, blah, blah.
And I was like, hey man, I have some food here.
Dude looked me dead in my face and said...
Nah, man, I don't eat curry.
I don't eat curry.
I'm like, nigga, first of all, this ain't curry.
You fucking asshole.
Like, I hate curry.
And then number two, this is like, yo, chicken man and some salad.
Like, take it, man.
He didn't want to take it.
But I was like, what the fuck?
They're bougie over here.
So Miami beggar is basically a British beggar.
They're bougie.
Yeah, they're bougie over here.
Yeah.
Yeah, anyway.
What else do we got?
Last chat right here?
It just came in.
It just came in?
Alright.
And then we're going to close out the show with the lovely ladies.
From Castle Club.
Salaam Suleiman.
Thanks for having him on, Myron.
He posts some great, reliable news on X. Yeah, shout out, man.
Thanks, appreciate it.
I think it's important to platform people that have opposing views.
Like I said, I've had Samir Robison on, Laura Loomer on, Suleiman on, Mohammed Hijab.
We'll bring Laura back on again in the future.
I think it's important to have some perspectives.
You can bring them on as long as you bring someone later to counter their lies and propaganda like I did today.
We'll have you guys debate, man.
We'll have you guys debate.
She's too scared.
As is Tommy Robinson.
These guys are not up for it.
I'll set it up.
I'll set it up.
Tommy told me he's down in debate.
So I'll set it up between you guys since I'm the middle ground guy.
Cool.
Guys, I hope you guys enjoyed today's pod.
Get the course.
Oh, yes.
Listen, know what coins to buy, what to sell is the game here.
Stop being poor!
Get your money up, man, because if you don't get your money up now, you're screwed.
Yeah.
And then you have to watch what you say because you're controlled.
Yeah.
So, yeah, man.
Don't be a fucking slave.
Don't be a simp.
And get in the crypto course, man.
Don't be a brookie.
We already got almost 30 people in there.
Last time I checked, like 25, 26, something like that.
So, shout out to y'all, man.
People definitely want to not be broke anymore.
Link down below.
And then where can they find you, brother?
Yes.
You can find me on Twitter, which is SheikhSuliman.com.
And I've got a decent following that, but I am going to start streaming soon as well, so just watch out for that.
There you go.
Sweet, sweet, sweet, sweet.
Alright, guys, go check them out on Twitter, man.
We both follow each other and, you know, comment and stuff like that on X. Unpluff at X for me on X. And I'm almost at 100K, man, so go check me out over there.
And I will talk to Laura and we'll see if we can set up this debate, make it happen.
Maybe her and Tommy versus you and a partner.
I don't know.
We'll make it happen.
We'll make it happen, man.
Alright, guys.
Love you.
I'll be back with some lovely ladies.
Peace!
Far away, I just ran.
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