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March 13, 2024 - Fresh & Fit
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It's Crowder.
That's really it that I could think of.
And PBD, they just started doing it.
Oh, they do?
They do a live stream podcast as well.
But most people don't do it for obvious reasons.
Nah, it's not easy, man.
Yeah, exactly.
So we definitely commend you guys as well.
Nice.
Also, I want to say something else.
Coconuts, you have a service dog, and he's so cute.
He or she, I don't know, so cute.
My name's Coconuts now.
Fun fact, I just came out from Barbados too, so that's actually hilarious.
And they were tasty, man.
Coconuts are tasty.
I love coke.
Oh, man.
Coconuts are phenomenal.
One of the best.
They're a nut, right?
I mean, those are great.
That's a big-ass nut, but it is what it is.
This is your dog, right, Coco?
What's up, Hiro?
There you go.
My boy Hiro, man.
You know what?
I'll call you Walter, or Coconuts.
Sorry.
You know what?
It's such a bad habit.
I'm trying to be respectful.
I call you Coconuts on the show because of the Coconuts-Marbados thing.
I'm going to call you Walter.
Walter's your name, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll be respectful.
So what do you want to debate, Ethan?
I love your dog.
So what do you want to debate, man?
I know that you guys wanted to have this discussion with us.
We're happy to have it.
You have a nice, respectful debate whenever you want to discuss.
Alright, so let's start from here.
Just, it's topical, so I'll bring it up.
The Tate Bros got arrested again.
Yeah.
And, well, first of all, Aiden Ross did that shit, right?
Like, do you think he should be catching some flack from the community?
We don't know enough to comment on that.
So, I mean, I don't know for us if you know anything else that I don't.
Well, I'll say this.
They were arrested, but they were also released as well.
Immediately, yeah.
So, that's some good news right there.
Okay.
True, they were released, but the judge said they can be extradited to the UK just after their case finishes and went further and said they're not allowed to leave the country.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't really know too much about as far as like the Aiden situation and if that actually led.
I know that, you know, in the news they're saying that it potentially led to them being arrested.
But, you know, what I do know is I'm pretty confident they're innocent.
We know that this stuff is BS. These women have made these accusations before.
So, you know.
Can I ask you this?
If you knew, if you found out for sure that Aiden, him saying that is what got him arrested, do you think that that would, that he should catch shit for that?
He really, if it's true, which it seems like it is, is like crazy snitching.
Like he got his boy arrested.
Well, it is crazy.
Try snitching at the finest.
Yeah, but we don't know.
We just simply...
I mean, he did apologize for it, though.
Eden did apologize for it.
Oh, he did apologize.
Apologize?
You can't apologize for running over someone's grandma, you know what I mean?
I'm not gonna lie.
That was messed up, Aiden.
That's an L for you, buddy.
Oh, so he did?
Yeah.
So it is confirmed?
Pretty much it is confirmed, yeah.
It's been reported in the news.
Dude, even Tate's lawyer, I think, put out a statement saying that it was because of Aiden Ross' fucking video.
Wow.
Okay, I didn't see that.
But yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah.
It is.
So, El Aiden.
I mean, it's pretty amazing just that that's what took him down.
I've wondered if Aiden is a secret agent, maybe.
Well, you would know better than us.
Well, I'm not a secret agent.
Oh.
Or am I? You're saying that I'm secretly a red pill guy?
I mean, I think you're very versatile, but I don't know if you're a red pill.
I'm versatile.
I appreciate that.
I think that's a compliment.
So if you say that you think the tape bros are innocent.
Yes.
Let me ask you this.
If you knew that he did do the crime, would you stop supporting him?
He didn't.
No, I know.
But hypothetically, let's say the evidence comes out.
And they're like, here is the irrefutable proof.
Boom.
It's proven.
Nobody can doubt it.
Would you keep supporting him?
The thing is, is that I know that he's innocent.
I know these girls, who they are.
You're not answering the question, though.
It's important to know.
But that's why would I even go down that road if I know that they're innocent.
Well, I think it's important to get to the heart of it because I'd like to know that if somebody was proven to be a R-wordist or a sex trafficker, would you continue to support them?
And this is purely hypothetical.
I mean, if he's innocent, then you got nothing to worry about.
But if he's proven, and I mean, how do you prove it?
Put it this way.
Would you stop supporting him?
If he was doing that stuff, I would have known years ago.
Would you continue to support him if he did of that stuff he's accused of?
I'm telling you, I wouldn't have been friends with him in the first place if he was a trafficker or doing any of these things that you're talking about.
We wouldn't even have been friends in the first place.
Since he's not wanting to answer the question, maybe Walter will answer it.
Would you support someone that pushed grape allegations on other people?
Yourself?
Oh, okay.
I'm happy to get into that.
We'll absolutely talk about that.
You busted your nut there right at the top, eh, Walter?
I busted a heavy load, bro.
Heavy load.
You fucking cleaned your pants too fast, man.
You've got to paint yourself.
Big nuts!
Big nuts, right?
I wasn't even going to get into that.
Absolutely, man.
I'm just simply saying...
We've known these guys for years.
We wouldn't have been friends with them and been cool with them to the level that we are if they were involved in any of that stuff.
We know the guys very well.
These charges are bogus.
That's why you haven't heard anything about the case in months.
Everybody knows it's a farce.
And also, to be fair, their camera footage shows all the evidence.
Yeah.
So if you want to go into details here, bro, show that in court.
To be honest.
I don't want to debate the facts of the case because I've been through it.
And in my opinion, it's irrefutable.
That being said, you guys say the same thing, so whatever.
I actually don't care about the details.
I'm just interested if you would support him if it was proven.
If you saw a video of him raping a girl, I mean, that's horrible to say.
Sorry for being so vulgar.
Would you be like, would you stop supporting him?
Well, to make it very clear, I wouldn't support anyone that did that.
Okay, good.
That's good.
What about you?
But luckily, we know he's innocent, so there you go.
That's it.
There you go.
You answered the question.
And Fit or Myron?
Hold on one sec.
My mic is acting crazy.
Okay, go ahead.
He got you.
Alright, can you hear me?
Yep.
Yeah, I can hear you now.
So what I said was, we wouldn't even have been friends with him had that been a thing.
We know these guys' character.
That's not an answer.
That's not an answer.
I'm telling you, we wouldn't have been even friends with him in the first place.
Do you usually have trouble not answering questions directly?
No, it's not about that.
It's about just, it's not even a real point.
It's a real question.
It has a question mark behind it.
It's not even a scenario because they didn't do it.
It's a hypothetical situation, which is what I explained in the beginning.
I'm telling you, we wouldn't even have been friends in the first place if they were involved in that type of activity.
Walter crushed that question, by the way.
Amen.
He absolutely crushed it.
He's like, nope!
And I was like, yo, Walter's the man!
Well, like I said before, we wouldn't even have been friends if that was the case, and we know these guys well, and they're not involved in that type of activity.
No, I hear you.
That's not an answer to my question.
That's fine.
But anyway, regardless, let me ask you this then.
What would it take?
Like, what evidence would be required to convince either one of you guys that he is guilty of some kind of crime?
And again, you guys think he's innocent.
You've seen the evidence.
I'm talking just hypothetically, like I said, a video or something.
Like, what would it take?
I'm just curious.
I'm telling you that.
The reason why I'm so, you know, strong on this is because I've looked at the case.
I've looked at the evidence.
I've looked at everything.
I've looked at the surveillance footage.
I know who the individuals are that made these allegations, and it's all a farce, bro.
It's all a lie.
That's why I can speak so confidently about it, and I'm telling you, because I know these individuals personally.
I've spent a significant amount of time with them.
I know that they're innocent.
Also, Myron, you worked on cases like this before.
And I've done cases like this before as well.
You're not a lawyer.
I mean, what the fuck?
What do you mean you've worked cases like this?
You have done credentials to talk about that.
I've arrested human traffickers.
I've arrested human smokers.
I've arrested terrorists.
We're not police lawyers.
You have no legal standing to say you've worked on cases like this.
I'm the one that has to bring the case.
Hold on.
I'm the one that has to bring the case to the lawyer for prosecution, and I have to develop the evidence.
What are you talking about?
Develop the evidence?
Does that mean faking evidence?
What do you mean developing the evidence?
Okay, as a criminal investigator...
I'm being facetious there.
I'm not actually accusing a big thing.
But Walter, I saw you raise your hands like, get a load of this guy.
Since when do police...
Do you believe that a police officer has the training and authority to comment on legal proceedings?
Well, before the case even brought up in the court, someone has to do the work, right?
Yeah, they arrest people.
Right, so knowing cases and talking to juries, for example, you know, lawyers and stuff like that, he would know beforehand what's happening from a groundwork standpoint.
So I think on some level he would know on a basis of what's happening with this case.
There is no prosecution if there's no law enforcement to arrest individuals for the prosecution.
Yes, I know how it works that you arrest, but then it goes to court where people who are trained to talk about the law do that.
So, Ethan, let me...
You're the muscle, right?
The police are the muscle.
So, Ethan, let me clarify this for you.
They don't make judgments.
Let me clarify this for you.
Yeah.
I was a former special agent of Homeland Security.
That's the feds.
We don't bring a case unless it's...
We don't bring the case forward unless it's ready for trial.
We don't indict unless it's ready for trial.
There's a reason why the feds have a 99% condition rate.
You don't indict anybody.
That's what the district attorney does.
No, that's the AUSA's office.
Assistant United States Attorney's Office.
And then the AUSA's Assistant United States Attorney's work underneath the AUSA. You indict people?
No.
What I'm telling you is that the feds don't indict unless they're ready for trial.
Okay?
Agents know this.
You can't cast an umbrella and say you're, you know what I mean?
Like, oh, we're all feds here.
Like, what, you're the FBI now, too?
I mean, what are you talking about?
They're all 1811s, a.k.a.
special agents.
That's the job series.
Whether you're ATF, FBI, Homeland Security.
I mean, Ethan, I'm going to be very respectful here.
You're out of your wheelhouse.
If you want to have this discussion, we absolutely can.
But every single criminal investigator in the government that does investigations, typically it's a special agent, a postal inspector, etc.
It's an 1811 job series.
It's all the same thing.
They get paid the same level, etc.
So, criminal investigator.
That's the general thing.
Go on USAJobs, type in 1811, and you're going to see it.
I understand.
The reason I bring it up is just because I hear you using those credentials frequently to say, to, you know, pass Andrew Tate.
And I've always thought that it's just kind of silly.
Because I've done real human trafficking investigations.
Because I've done real human trafficking investigations.
What?
You have no training in...
Have you passed the bar exam?
Have you taken the bar exam?
You don't need...
You don't need to take the bar exam to go ahead and be able to develop probable cause, to develop probable cause, which is a standard to arrest someone, by the way.
That's like a fucking...
You're comparing a molehill to a mountain in terms of legality.
Hold on.
To make an arrest, you need probable cause, and to get someone indicted, you need probable cause.
However...
At the federal level, AUSAs are very picky.
They have the ability to take a case or not based on if it's good enough for them.
They can go ahead and turn down cases.
They actually turn down many cases.
That's why most cases go to the state a lot of the times and don't end up getting prosecuted to the full extent.
But when it goes to the feds and AUSA actually takes it, they have a 98 to 99% win rate.
That's why most criminals...
That's why most criminals are scared of going to the feds.
But the lawyers are good.
However, they can't put a good case together unless the investigators make the case.
The AUSAs aren't interviewing suspects.
The AUSAs don't have informants.
The AUSAs aren't doing surveillance.
The AUSAs aren't doing Title III intercepts.
The AUSAs aren't debriefing sources.
They're not doing any of that.
It's the investigators that do that.
And the thing is that when you're doing crimes at a federal level, you're way more thorough in your report writing, in your investigation, etc.
Okay, good.
Thank you for clarifying that.
What's that, Walter?
That's his channel, FedReacts.
I mean, I did this for a while over a decade.
A proud Fed.
Anyway, to touch back on the Andrew Tate thing, I just want to show you guys this clip of him, and then you guys can comment on it, if that's okay.
This is from one of his courses that he was teaching years ago.
I have to do some traveling and you can't come.
I want to bring you with me.
Traveling is a great one because the thing about this business is mobile.
If you can find a good Airbnb with good internet, you can run it somewhere else.
So it's a good little caveat to throw in.
You're always working.
Why don't you work for me so we spend more time together?
Work for you doing what?
Say, well, I have a webcam business.
Oh, I don't want to do that.
It's okay.
I know you don't want to do that, but listen.
Come.
Let's have a meeting.
Let's just talk about it.
If you don't want to do it, don't do it.
Fine.
But let me explain it to you properly.
In fact, I'll bring one of the girls who works for me.
You, your bottom bitch, the new girl, you go out for fucking a nice dinner.
Your bottom bitch is the one who does the selling.
You don't do the selling.
The girl has to hear from a girl.
And this is where your bottom bitch has to be trained.
That's why I said it's so important to have a good first girl.
Tax is also another important element for controlling your woman.
You're not going to pay anybody tax because you're getting paid in Bitcoin.
So you don't need to pay tax to anybody.
You need to tell your girl.
That you're paying the tax.
Because girls are lazy, and girls are stupid, and girls don't understand how taxes work.
So the girl's working with you, and you're like, oh, okay, yeah, we made this much money, but I'm going to pay the tax to make sure we don't get in trouble.
She'll sit there and go, okay, okay.
Now that allows you to do two things.
One is another control element.
I work with him, my tax is not a problem.
If I do it alone, I have to deal with taxes.
Taxes are complicated.
I mean, that's illegal, right?
Yeah.
So you're showing me a bunch of clips from a course from almost a decade ago.
What's your angle here?
Did it stop being illegal since it was 10?
He says that he falsifies...
Okay, what's your point of attention here then?
He said he didn't...
The law, and he's saying here that he falsifies tax documents to...
He lies to his employees, if you want to call that, to control them.
He lies on their taxes and steals money from them.
Is that not a problem?
So, what is your point of contention here?
Is this a debate on Andrew Tate now?
Is this what this is going to be?
Bro, are you seriously trying to get out of this so quickly?
No, no, no, I'm not.
I'm not trying to get out of it, but I'm saying I thought we were going to debate on masculinity or whatever, but go ahead.
What's your point of contention specifically?
Is it the taxes?
This is my only question about Tate.
I don't continue to go on and on about him.
No, tell me specifically, what's your point of contention here?
Is it him having a girl come with him to have dinner with the chick?
Is it the taxes?
What is it specifically that you have to show?
It's actually, like I had said, the taxes part seems to be explicitly illegal and exploitative.
Okay.
There's no other way to interpret that unless you can illuminate me.
Okay, so let me ask you this, Ethan.
Do you make as much money as the people that work for you?
Can I ask you this question, Martin?
Do you have trouble answering direct questions?
No, I'm answering your question right now, but I need you to understand my perspective while I'm coming here so it makes sense.
Do you make as much as the people that work underneath you?
The answer's probably no, right?
You make more money than they do, correct?
Because you're the boss, you run the podcast, they are subordinates, correct?
Sure.
Okay.
So, same in this situation.
The women work for him.
He has a webcam business.
He takes the money, and he does as fit with it to go ahead and run his business.
Okay?
Do you actually believe that?
Tax laws are different.
Yeah.
Let me read this again.
Let me watch this again.
If people work underneath you, they don't make as much money.
One is another control element.
If I work with him, my tax is not a problem.
If I do it alone, I have to deal with taxes.
Taxes are complicated.
It's a control element.
It allows you to pay a smaller percentage.
Pay or less?
So I used to pay my girl for 30%.
So for every $10,000 they made, I give them three and I keep seven.
They thought they were on 50% and I said that the disparity was because of taxes.
So you're on 50% and we have to pay the tax first and then it's 50/50.
If they say, why is it 50/50?
Because I'm the one on camera.
You say, because I'm the one typing, I'm the one with the property you're working in, I'm the one paying the bills, the electricity, I'm the one who's, and the electricity and every other maintenance cost of this property, I'm the one who bought the equipment, I'm the one who knows what he's doing, I'm the one with the knowledge, I'm the da da da da da da da, shut the fuck up, go on. - Yeah, he runs the business.
He's the boss, just like you are of age three, and you make significantly more than all of your employees.
Yeah, I don't steal their money and lie to them about taxes.
That's illegal.
No, well, the point is, again, he's in Romania.
He's not in the United States.
That's one thing.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to steal money from people in Romania.
It's not about that.
He's employing these women.
They're making more money with him than they would have ever before.
The average salary in Romania is about $400 US. You understand these women are making...
The amount of money is literally immaterial.
He's set.
It's absolutely material.
I lied.
Walter, what do you think about this?
Hold on, hold on.
Ethan, Ethan, Ethan.
I steal money from these girls and lied to them about it.
This is the thing, Ethan.
Hold on, hold on.
He literally said that.
Ethan, Ethan, if we're going to have this conversation, there needs to be context.
Hold on, don't talk over Walter.
I want to hear from him.
No, there needs to be context here because you asked me this situation, right?
You asked me for me specifically, so I'm going to go ahead and answer you.
These women, okay, were making no money prior.
The average salary in Romania is around $400 US. These girls are making $10K plus a month at this point, okay?
He's taking a percentage.
They're still getting...
Thousands of dollars.
Bro, that's insane money.
That's life-changing money.
You're saying as long as someone you're stealing from gets a decent chunk, then it doesn't matter?
It's not stealing.
He's running the business, Ethan.
He's running the business.
They think they're getting 50%.
They're actually getting set.
I tell them they're getting 50%.
I'm actually giving them 7%.
What do you call that?
Let me ask you this, Ethan.
Do your employees know exactly how much money you make and how much you pay them in comparison to how much you make?
No, they don't.
I'm talking about their salary, bro.
Same situation, my friend.
Same situation.
It's not.
Walter, go ahead.
I'm curious what you think.
Yeah, so I just find it funny you're pinpointing, Andrew, because a lot of businesses run this way in America, especially.
No, no.
People do not lie about how much taxes they're paying and then secretly withhold money.
That's called fucking theft.
Well, I'm referring to people paying whatever they want to pay employees.
I'm just saying, in general, you're pinpointing, Andrew.
It's not about salary, dude.
It's got nothing to do with that.
That's extremely important, though.
You're taking someone making $400 a month.
This is why I love that you play these clips, right?
And you're playing these clips out of context, and people don't know the full story of what it's like to live in Romania, how much money the average person makes, how much these women are making in comparison to the average person.
This is life-changing money.
He's made these women millionaires, but you don't know that.
Do you?
It doesn't matter how much money they make.
Why don't you understand that?
Bro, do you treat your employees that way?
So, now we're discussing how people treat their employees?
I'm confused here.
I thought we were debating, like, actually dating topics.
Walter, stick with it, buddy.
No, you lost me a lot about taxes, bro.
This is literally what we're discussing.
Taxes is boring, bro.
Like, you lost me.
Okay, we can move on.
We can move on.
I don't think this is going anywhere anyway.
Sure.
But, again, I'm not here to talk about Tate.
I just wanted to get your guys' thoughts on that.
Although, I don't know, Walter, if you want to discuss.
Any further on if you think he's described theft or if you think that this is just normal payroll stuff?
I think it's relevant.
Walter, you were the answer to the question guy.
So confronted with the table of him confessing to a crime, we close our eyes and...
Think of better times.
Again, he's running a business.
He's paying the women a percentage.
What he tells them and what they get paid, I mean, at the end of the day, these women are making a bunch of money.
He tells them a percentage.
Go on, follow that thought.
No, no, no.
But what I'm telling you is that relative to how much money they were making before, relative to where they live in Romania, relative to what they were doing prior, this is life-changing money.
He's turning these women into millionaires, dude.
You know what?
Ethan, this is simple.
Tell your employees how much money you're making right now.
Yeah, tell them how much you make in comparison to how much you pay them.
And then tell them how much you pay them.
And see how they react.
Yeah, frankly, they do have access to the financials.
I know exactly.
Give them your tax returns.
Give them your tax returns.
Free transparent.
I'm literally telling you they have transparency.
What do you want?
Dan sees everything.
Everybody in the podcast sees everything.
Not that that's relevant.
At all.
Great.
Well, you know what?
That is your business.
That's how you handle it.
Andrew, this is business.
What is it about us?
Follow the thought.
Follow the thought.
You said he pays them a percentage.
You said they think they're getting 50%.
Then he says, actually, I give them 30%.
He's lying.
Correct?
Listen, man.
At the end of the day, bro, you want to put us in this hot seat to make us expose somebody on camera?
Bosses never tell their employees what they're actually...
Like, they don't know how much money they're making relative most of the time.
Bro, that's payroll tax.
That's a federal crime.
You should know that.
You're a fed, right?
Again, he lives in Romania.
He's not in the United States.
Oh, okay.
Different labor laws.
By the way, most of the grocery traffics are not even Romanian.
I guess if you...
Wait, who do you traffic?
Who do you traffic, Ethan?
Be very specific, Ethan.
Who do you traffic, Ethan?
We want names, Ethan.
Real names.
Okay, okay.
I'm not gonna say he trafficked anyone.
The girls that work for him...
I think he's a sex trafficker, but I don't want to get caught in this argument.
I don't care about it.
You said it.
You said he did.
So who did he do it to?
Who?
We need some names.
We need some names, bro.
Coconuts.
I don't...
Okay, so...
So he didn't sex traffic anyone.
I don't care about that point.
He didn't sex...
Good boy!
Taking it back.
Good boy, Ethan.
Okay, you guys got me.
So, um...
But the girls who live there, they're not even Romanian.
And also, about my employees, they make 100% of what I tell them, I pay them.
You understand that, right?
I say, Dan, I owe you, I'm going to pay you $1,000.
And then at the end of the month, I give him $1,000.
Andrew says, I'm going to pay you $1,000.
Or Andrew says, yeah, I'm going to pay you $1,000, but ends up giving them $700.
That's not honest.
But we don't need to get into that.
Let's move on.
You guys want to move on?
Sure, if you want to.
I'll give you this, bro.
You're a comedian.
You're funny.
I'll give you that.
Thank you.
He's got to entertain his audience.
I think you're nice.
Walter, I do think you're nice.
I think you have a kind heart.
I think you just got...
I swear to God, I feel like you just got in with the wrong people.
Who?
You have a sweet heart, Walter.
You don't have to live this life.
Bro, this is fire and ice, bro.
I'm chill, cool.
He's fiery hot.
It works, bro.
It works.
You know?
Fire and ice?
Yeah.
Okay.
I like that.
The Tate Brothers Buceres compound was initially rated by American women and a Moldovan.
You know what?
I didn't even want to get into this.
It's fine.
Alright, so let's move on.
You guys have spoke about this issue a lot about rape culture.
Is rape culture a myth?
Grape.
Grape, sorry.
Grape culture.
And we're not talking about wineries, right fellas?
We did a full podcast on this.
All the studies are there and everything else like that, but yeah.
So if somebody's actually graped, that's something you take seriously?
Of course.
It's one of the most heinous crimes.
I genuinely think guys that do that should be put to death.
It's one of the worst things you can do.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's unacceptable.
So you think rape is one of the worst crimes someone could do?
It's not funny.
It's not interesting.
It's like just death sentence.
No.
I think guys that do that to women need to be dealt with in a certain manner, and that's unacceptable behavior.
Reprehensible.
So here's a guest on your show named Charleston White.
Let's listen to this anecdote.
Sure.
Nah.
Nah.
Okay.
Well, we used to run trains on white girls.
Choo-choo!
She's in a Robin Hood.
We used to do it without permission.
So it's not like she came over and said, hey, I want to sleep with all you guys.
We said, hey, man, that white girl like you, get over here.
And then we put, oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
we just come in with dicks out oh shit yo we're about to go on twitch yeah okay twitch yo so um do you think that what your friend um charleston should be put to death Wait, hold on.
Whose friend?
Okay, whatever.
Your guest.
You guys are pretty friendly with him.
No, we're not.
I mean, you were laughing.
You seem to be taking that, having a laugh about it.
Do you know why?
Why?
No, do you know why?
Go ahead, please, I'm listening.
Because we cannot believe you said that on camera.
I was like, this can't be serious.
Also, the other thing too, Ethan, did you see that full interview, Ethan, out of curiosity?
Probably didn't.
I've seen bits of it.
No, I haven't watched the whole thing.
Out of context.
So, fantastic.
Once again, you like to do the out of context thing, but it's okay.
Let me aware you.
Go ahead and explain.
During the course of that interview, he went through his life story and how he changed his life and turned it around from a life of crime, robbing people, being involved in a murder, doing that type of thing when he was young.
He talked about all that in the beginning and how he turned his life around and how he advocates for the youth now to not be involved in a life of crime.
So what that clip that you took right there, you said rapists should be put to death.
Yeah, they should be.
Well, he just said he gang raped.
And also keep in mind that he was quoting a song from two live crew.
So like it didn't happen.
Well, of course, he's essentially sensationalizing it by quoting the music thing.
But I'm telling you that he was explaining his life of crime prior, right, during the course of that podcast.
So you're taking that one clip and trying to say, oh, you guys left the rape.
No, we didn't.
What I'm telling you is that we were listening to a life story that he was talking about and how he changed his life around.
So obviously he did some shitty things when he was younger and he turned his life around.
So if you are a grapist, then you can basically recover and be a guest, a celebrated guest on the Fresh and Fit podcast?
Well, he was a child also when he did that.
And that was from a song that he was quoting again.
Again, so those weren't his words.
He was quoting a song, number one.
Number two, he was a kid when that happened.
Again, this is why it's important to watch the full podcast before you go ahead and make the comments that you make.
He was in his teenage years.
Okay.
Like 18?
No, below that.
17?
I don't remember the exact age, but I know he was a teenager.
Okay, well, I mean...
Clearly there's a disparity there of meaning.
But I'll say this, since you guys seem to believe that he's goofing around, or not goofing, but you guys think he's exaggerating.
But let me just tell you a little bit something about your friend, Charleston White.
He's not our friend, by the way.
You guys know most of this, but the audience...
FYI, I just want to make this very clear, we're not friends with him.
In 1991, he was sent to jail...
who tried to stop him from shoplifting.
But now, 2019, this was five years ago, he was arrested for unlawful carrying a weapon.
2019, he was arrested for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
In 2022, two years ago, he was arrested for DUI, unlicensed carry of weapon, possession of marijuana.
I mean, whatever, 420 blazed.
2023, last year, stopped by FBI over kidnapping allegations.
And again, in 2023, he was arrested for animal cruelty and aggravated assault with deadly weapon charges.
This is a very serious criminal.
Ethan, Ethan, Ethan, I was very clear about this.
He's not our friend, Ethan.
You're interested in that.
He's not our friend, bro.
Does this have to do with us?
Nigga, what?
It's a video of you in it, Walter.
I mean, what do you mean?
We did a podcast with dudes.
We're not friends, dude.
What do you mean, what does it have to do with you?
It's a video with you in it.
Use your brain, my nigga.
We're not friends.
We just did a podcast.
Yeah, we did a podcast, and we're not friends with him.
And again, like I said before, the clip that you're referring to, he was describing his life story of what he had done prior.
He actually mentioned that murder that you mentioned as well.
So, again, that was him telling his life story, man.
Okay.
And he was using a two live crew song to describe it.
So put Grapus to death unless they're cool and want to come on our show.
That's not what I said at all.
Like I said before, he was a minor.
You said put Grapus to death.
He was a minor.
He was a minor.
Obviously, minors have a different legal system than adults do.
So he was a minor when he did it.
Yeah, you didn't mention that.
Ethan, what about your guest, bro?
He didn't mention the minor thing.
What?
Ethan, he was a minor when he did that.
Also, you're a podcaster, right?
So you know guests come on your show all the time.
What about your bad guest?
I can name a few.
Yeah, it wasn't a combative interview.
You guys, you know what I mean?
Like, you guys were laughing and having a good time and being like, oh, shit.
Well, as podcasters, Ethan, we let our guests talk.
So whatever they want to say, they can say because it's their podcast.
Now, granted, you yourself are a podcaster, too.
Your guests are very, very, very well in thought as well.
Actually, bro, your guests are really well out there, like Liverking, the scammer.
Isn't that one of your friends, too?
Yeah.
Actually, if I'm correct, you follow him on Instagram.
He's a friend of the show.
That's your real friend.
And he scammed how many people?
Millions?
Yeah.
From his lifestyle?
Isn't that your friend, Ethan?
Damn, that's your friend, buddy.
He's a scammer.
That's fucked up, bro.
Coco, you gotta hit that island breeze, man.
You're getting emotional.
I know, bro.
I love it.
It's chill.
I mean, but yeah, I mean, if you're going to use that angle of like, you brought this guy on your podcast.
He's not even our friend, bro.
I don't even want to be defending him, to be honest with you.
But we got to have things in context.
Go ahead and do your thing.
He literally talked about...
No, no, we're not getting emotional.
We're just describing to you.
I'm just describing to you that he was describing his life story, which involved criminal nefarious acts.
Okay?
By the way, Liver King was exposed after he came on our show.
Oh!
Well, maybe you should have did your research.
Maybe?
What?
With a fucking crystal ball, Walter?
Oh!
Well, guess who?
Do we need a crystal ball?
We didn't know!
He was on the show!
You didn't know he did these crimes when he was on your show?
Oh, coconuts in your head, Ethan!
Oh, my God!
Yeah, do you understand how future and past are different?
I guess we both need a crystal ball, Ethan.
I guess we both need a crystal ball, Ethan.
Walter, do you understand the difference between future and past?
Are you aware of 10-year-old changes?
Well, you mentioned some things in the future.
Exactly, bro.
Fucking wrong with animals and getting caught with a gun and shit.
This is after the fact.
How are we supposed to know that?
That was after we came on our podcast.
We need the same crystal ball as you, Ethan.
The reason I brought up his rap sheet is not to say you guys knew about it.
It's to show you guys that he's a serious criminal.
He was and he still is.
So to say that he's embellishing it I think is giving him a lot of grace when he's admittedly just a rapist.
And he recounts the story with a lot of Joy, it seems like.
Let me watch this one more time and then we can move on.
You sure watch the whole podcast.
You wouldn't have had to come in this discussion with us on this thing and look crazy.
Yeah, but yeah.
Did you not want to?
I'm curious about your guys' reaction.
Let me see this.
I'm trying the white girls.
Choo-choo!
I mean, he's smiling.
Choo-choo.
Yeah, running trains on girls, okay.
And then you went, choo-choo!
Yep.
Because that's considered consensual sex most of the time when you run a train on a girl.
Okay, let's see how this develops.
Do it without permission.
So it's not like she came over and said, hey, I want to sleep.
What?
Oh, full screen at my bed.
Let me do that.
But all you guys.
Yeah.
We say, hey man, that white girl like you, get over here.
And then we put, oh shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We just come in with dicks out.
Oh shit.
Yo.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now if somebody's committing you with the worst crime that's ever been committed, The worst thing someone could do...
I mean, I understand that you guys are shocked that he said it, but...
You know what I'm saying?
Like...
Bro, I don't know what you're trying to do here, but bro, hold the L. Yeah, you're really trying to grasp at anything here.
Again, he's telling his life story.
We're listening.
Again, he says, we come out with our dicks out.
And we're like, what the fuck?
I think anybody would be like, what the fuck?
Where's this going?
How much longer did this interview go after that revelation that he mass raped?
He's a mass rapist.
How much longer did the combo go?
Did you guys kick him out or anything?
I don't recall how much longer it was.
Well, actually, Ethan, if you saw, we're not friends at all.
And actually, after the show, we had some beef.
Oh, for real?
Yeah.
What did you guys beef about?
Everything, bro.
Yeah, we just don't get along with the guy.
Yeah, bro.
So, I mean, this is another...
You were saying we're his friend, bro?
Come on, man.
We're not, man.
You know what?
I misspoke.
I don't know if you guys are friends.
That's fine.
That's the angle you try to approach it on.
But Ethan, be honest here.
You do that a lot, though.
You must speak a lot, honestly.
Don't you?
Well, I mean, I'm willing, if I say that you guys are friends...
To be honest, I'm not even happy that I had to explain that.
I don't know if you guys are friends.
I don't think that detail's important.
We're not.
And I... Well, you're trying to come on that frame that word.
But hold on.
Ethan, am I being wrong here by saying that you're a friend's whatever?
Okay, so, okay.
We didn't know.
We didn't know.
That's fine.
Okay.
There you go.
We didn't know that he was going to say that shit.
We didn't have a Christmas podcast.
We learned a lot.
All right.
All right.
So, thank you guys.
Moving on.
Actually, Ethan, can I ask you a question, bro?
Go ahead.
I think, honestly speaking, bro, you're a great person at heart.
But sometimes...
That makes two of us.
Things can happen where we misspeak on what we say.
And back in the day, me and mine were coming up in the YouTube streets, rumble streets, you know, trying to make a name for ourselves.
And somebody made an accusation against my friend Myron here.
Some, you know, Listerine was misplaced and not used correctly.
But all of a sudden, you and your team came to the defense of this person's allegations, and surprisingly, you said that we were crapists.
And I was like, no way.
Didn't say that.
That's actually a flat-out lie.
What'd you say then?
I don't know why you need to lie about that.
You insinuated, in not so many words, that it was sexual assault.
I've got all the clips.
You guys want to go over it?
You insinuated that it was sexual assault is what you did.
Hold on, baby!
That's true.
That's true.
And I believe it was, by the way.
And we can go over that.
I do believe you did sexually assault her, Myron.
And we can go over that.
She didn't even want to say that.
Wow!
Yeah, I know.
I know, exactly.
That's why I'll say it.
I'll say it for her.
You'll say it for her.
Okay.
Okay, Ethan.
Anyhow, it's interesting in here.
Here's the thing, I'm not even mad at you about that.
Like, I'm not even, honestly, I'm not even that angry.
See, hold on.
Hold on, Ethan.
If this was you, bro, and someone accused you of this, you know what I'd say?
I need all the evidence before I say, Ethan did this.
Because as a man, what we go through, bro, it's terrible.
Women lie all the time and say, oh, he did this and that.
Which normally could not be true.
And we believe it because she said it.
Versus, what does Ethan say?
You know what?
I'll give Ethan that benefit of the doubt.
But unfortunately, you didn't give us that.
You say, you know what?
Fuck these niggas.
Dear Grievous!
Yeah.
Enough so many words.
I would never use the N word, Walter.
How dare you?
Or, well, not today.
And then we did our podcast, right?
And we debunked it.
We showed the text message.
We showed everything.
Yeah.
So let's look at the clips then.
Instead of talking hypothetically, let's just dig into it.
It's not hypothetical.
Clearly, this is something of a point of contention.
I mean, I don't really care about it.
I'm cool with debating the other stuff, but if you want to go down this road, that's fine.
Walter brought it up.
He seems to care about it.
We just want to know why.
I mean, I think the public's consensus is very clear.
Because I think Myron sexually assaulted her.
How?
Well, let's get into it.
Y'all want to talk about it or not?
Yeah, of course.
So let's start by watching her recount the story, okay?
Let's start here.
You know what I mean?
Let's just be concrete about it.
We don't need to speak hypothetically.
Here is...
Her retelling the story.
You guys are about to lose another 10,000 subscribers.
Because you guys lost 10,000 subscribers after this.
You guys know that, right?
After we did our episode, I'm warning you, Ethan.
You did your episode on this, then we did our retaliation episode showing the evidence and everything.
You guys lost 10,000 subscribers.
Oh, I got the numbers.
You guys lost 10,000 that day.
We can show it right now on fucking Social Blade.
I don't know if you know this, buddy, but we lose 10,000 every month.
Okay, well, y'all lost $10,000 on that day.
You guys lost $10,000 on that day.
I lost $10,000 every month, sucker.
Look, $10,000 on that day.
We got it right here.
That's just commonplace, man.
Y'all take credit for that.
You guys lost $10,000 on that day.
Can we talk about the actual issue instead of getting so emotional all the time?
No, I'm just showing you the numbers.
Who's emotional, bro?
I'm just warning you.
If you want to go down this road, you're going to look crazy.
Let's go ahead.
Let's do it.
I'm just trying to have a straight conversation.
You guys start screaming and hollering about sub counts and stuff.
It's very emotional.
Who's screaming?
We're laughing, bro.
I'm not even mad about this.
Let's go for it, man.
All right.
Oh, you disabled screen sharing?
He's like, I want to leave.
I want to be here.
And he's like, oh, you can sit on the bed.
So I sit on the bed, and I'm sitting at the edge of the bed, you know, like the memes, how they say how girls are.
And I'm sitting at this edge of the bed.
He's like, oh, you know, you can come up a little bit more.
So now I come up, but I leave a nice gap between the both of us where it's like very obvious, like I don't like you, that I'm leaving a gap between us.
and i'm on my phone he's on his phone and i remember again i was speaking about my views once again he just jumps on top of me and starts making out with me like like trying to kiss me and stuff and so i'm like i have my hands like on him where it's like i don't want him like laying on me like intimately so i'm just holding my hands up and i'm like no no no this was about like Max a minute long and I was wearing like this shirt and it's like a very loose shirt whatever and he basically lifts up the shirt and made a comment and then I was like I'm done.
I'm over this.
Wait he lifted up your shirt and kind of looked at underneath it and commented?
Yeah yeah my chest because I have piercings.
I'm sorry you say what?
I said I have piercings so he made a comment on it.
Oh okay.
And it was very creepy.
I don't want to...
This...
This is a bad...
This is very bad.
This is a very disturbing story, actually.
Yeah, it's pretty...
It's interesting, but at that point...
I think he may have assaulted you.
I mean, at this point, I... Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say that.
I don't want to say that.
And again, that's why, first of all, I don't think it's fair how you guys dogpiled on her because she never even said it was assault.
I did.
So let's talk about me.
Yeah, because, Ethan, the reason why she said it was an assault is because you're leaving out the part where...
She came over to my place.
She left where she was at to come to my place.
She went and hung out with me.
We went and got food prior to this.
Then we were in my bed.
She came back to my place, by the way, after this.
Matter of fact, Fresh, didn't she ask you to give her a ride to my spot?
That is correct.
Oh, yeah.
And all of those things entitled you to grab her fucking top and expose her breasts?
What?
That's what she said you did.
She allowed it to happen.
Because you weren't kissing.
We're making out.
I don't know if you're in the game, Ethan.
I know you're married and you haven't been single for a while, but it's called Escalation.
It's called Women Showing You Signs.
She said that you attempted to kiss her and she pushed you off.
That's not true, bro, because I told her to go get Listerine and she went ahead and did it.
That's where that mouthwash joke came from.
Come on, man!
Ethan, you're not gonna win this!
Because you weren't there!
Here's the other thing, too.
I want you to...
You're getting excited.
I'd like to make my point, but you can go ahead and finish.
No, no, no.
Here's the other thing, too.
At the beginning of that clip that you like to play, because you like to play clips and not the full thing, I said, oh, come up.
And what does she do?
She gets off the edge of the bed and comes closer to me.
I mean, I think that's a sign, right, Ethan?
She's in my bed.
That's what you said.
That's what you said happened.
Yeah.
She just said it in the thing.
Oh yeah, I came up close to him.
She said he asked me to come closer and I came a bit closer.
But that makes sense to me.
Did I hear her say he jumped on me?
Yeah, let me speak, please.
I think it's reasonable for me to conclude.
She says he jumped on me and he lifted my top to expose my breasts and commented on my breasts that that...
is reasonable for me to conclude that that is uh sexual assault and so and then when I really doubled down on it is um when you responded to it so here let me watch a clip of you responding to it Myron wearing like this shirt and it's like a very loose shirt whatever and he basically lifts up the shirt and made a comment and then I was like I'm done I'm over this like you lifted up your shirt and kind of That, my friends, is what she's mad about.
Actually, you know what?
Herona, let's play just a little bit longer and I'll expose it for y'all.
I've looked at underneath it and commented?
Yeah.
Yeah, my chest.
Because I have piercing.
You said what?
I said I have piercing, so he made a comment on it.
Oh, okay.
And it was very creepy.
It was very weird.
No, it was not creepy.
She's mad because I basically made a joke about her titties being lopsided.
It is what the fuck it is, man!
Alright?
There you go!
Ta-da!
Yeah, so you just described sexual assault.
You just admit to it, right?
I mean, you said, I did lift her top and I commented on her breasts.
Yep, and it was 100% consensual, Ethan, because here's the thing.
She's gonna say...
See, here's the thing.
I don't know.
Again, once again, it's fantastic that you pulled up a clip from that podcast.
I don't know if you saw that number 59 there, but during the course of the podcast, that was 59 times she lied to you, and I showed proof that she lied during the course of that podcast.
Yeah, you were very generous with those cap counters.
Oh, no, no, no.
I was very thorough about it because I showed full text messages.
It was a six-hour-long podcast.
Anyway, I'm talking about everything.
This is the point that matters, right?
Sure, go ahead.
Let's focus on that.
Okay.
So you basically are confessing now and then that you lifted her top and commented on her breasts.
She let me do it, Ethan.
What was she...
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Spoken like a real fed, bro.
She let me do it.
She let you do it?
Yes.
In what way did she say, you can lift my top and make fun of my breasts?
Ethan...
Dude.
No, no, no.
Walter Leibniz are in touch.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Oh my God.
Ethan, let me ask you a question.
Like, when you and your woman- She let you do it.
What does that mean?
Like, when you and your woman are about to make love, do you sit there and go, do you mind if I lift your shirt up?
Are you talking about my wife?
No, I'm asking you, like, what- Whether it's your wife or a woman that you've hooked up with in the past, let's be honest here.
She said she was pushing you off, dude.
No, that's not true.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
It's not true.
It's a lie.
Okay, but if that's what she said, then you agree it's reasonable for me to conclude that their essay did happen.
That's not true, bro.
That's what I'm trying to explain.
But you know what's interesting to me is that...
She lied throughout that entire talk.
Why do you think she was so reluctant?
You're confessing right now.
You understand that, right?
No, no, no, no.
Ethan...
Am I crazy?
No, because you're trying to listen, you're trying to hear something that didn't happen.
I'm telling you, she literally, right, because once again, you're playing clips and you're not playing the full thing.
This girl asked Fresh to come to my house.
He had to drive her from Miami Beach all the way to my spot, which is about 30 minutes away.
Okay, FYI. She went out and hung out with me.
We went to go get some food.
Then she came back to my place.
Then I told her we kissed.
Why do you think I told her to go get some fucking Listerine?
Because I didn't like the way her breath smelled.
As much as you want to go on about what happened, the lead up does not indicate consent at any way.
Ethan!
Ethan, again, we kiss, and then I say, yo, I don't like the way her breast smells, you need to go get some Listerine.
She goes and gets the Listerine and comes back.
Okay?
Then, we're in bed kissing or whatever.
And she says, oh, he jumped on me.
That's not true.
That's why she was reluctant to say, oh, I don't want to say sexual assault.
Because she knows everything was consensual.
Everything that led up to it was consensual, bro.
Now, you're trying to make something of something that isn't true.
Okay.
Just to review.
You say...
there was lots of leading up to this yes that showed that she was uh consenting yes then you guys go to your bedroom and where um you kiss her she says that you jumped on her you disagree but then the part that's important in my opinion which is that you say you you you say then and now That you lifted her top and commented on her breasts.
And you don't deny that.
Don't forget.
She had on whose clothes?
Let him answer!
I just...
I worded...
I took my time wording that.
I forgot to mention she was wearing my clothes.
She was wearing my clothes too.
His clothes.
She was wearing my clothes.
Tell me why a girl would change into her clothes and go into her bed.
Hold on.
Just...
So you...
Again, just to...
Say I understand it.
You lifted her top and commented on her breasts, right?
You don't deny that.
Yeah.
Myron's shirt.
Actually, I lifted my shirt.
So if a girl's wearing your shirt, you can assault her.
No one said that.
There was no assault.
There was no assault.
I'm trying to show how ridiculous your argument is trying to say that, oh, you lifted her shirt.
It's like, bro, it's my shirt.
She changed it to my clothes.
She drank my Listerine.
She was in my bed at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning.
She asked my friend to drive her to my spot 30 minutes away.
Let me ask you this.
Was she on the foot?
She said she was on the foot of the bed.
And then by your own video that you just showed, I said, oh, come closer.
What did she do?
She came closer.
She came closer.
That doesn't sound like a...
If I'm trying to hook up with a girl, if she's like sitting at the edge of the bed and just inches up a little bit, that sounds like...
She didn't inch up a little bit.
She got close to me, bro.
We were making out.
Why do you think I told her to get Listerine?
Ethan!
Ethan.
Come on, Ethan.
We're all men here, right?
Before you married your wife, did you smash?
Maybe?
Once or twice?
Do I do premarital sex?
Yes.
Okay, so when this happened, just take us back in time here.
Not to get into your business, but I'm just curious, bro.
You were in the bed at some point with her, right?
And did you magically just like say, hey babe, can I see your tits?
Or did you say, oh shit, it's happening right now, hard as fuck.
Lift it up and then go for it.
What happened?
Not that.
I did not just lift her top up and go for it.
She probably said, I need enthusiastic consent.
Do you consent to me lifting your shirt up this much?
Do you consent to me lifting it up this much?
It doesn't sound like you guys were laying in bed making out.
It sounds like you were making awkward advances on her.
She told you in your own thing that I told her to get Listerine, correct?
Why would I tell her to get Listerine?
You can only smell someone's breath if you're making out them.
You probably did it just because you're being a dick and you felt rejected because she didn't want you.
Oh, but she went and got the Listerine, right?
Because she was rejected.
Ethan, remember Amber Heard?
Yeah.
Yo!
Imagine if Johnny didn't take her to court and fight for his life and his career.
So Amber Heard lost the defamation case, therefore women be lying?
No, no, no.
They do be lying.
It was proven.
They do be lying.
They do be lying, bro.
And how many other men have been in the same position where they've been lied about by a woman?
Well, here's the thing.
She didn't even say it.
He said it for her.
But again, this is why.
Yeah, right.
Of course.
And again, I think it's fucked up that y'all went after her because she didn't say that.
First of all, I thought that was fucked up.
We came at you!
She has every right to describe a bad date that she had with you, which is what she was doing.
And then I drew the conclusion, based on what you said then and now, that you lifted her top and commented on her lopsided breasts, as you said.
And it was consensual.
That is actually quite literally a sexual assault.
No, it is not.
It's consensual.
Criticism isn't illegal, bro.
They're lopsided.
This is funny because if this was you, this position here, you know the big difference between us and you?
We say, you know what?
We need all the evidence.
We need evidence.
We want to say no crazy shit like that.
That you are essaying somebody.
But guess what?
I'm not taking this to the police.
She gave her story and I listened.
No, no.
You assumed.
You assumed for her.
I think defamation would be considered this because you said- It's not defamation.
It's literally not defamation, bro.
You said to him that he assaulted somebody.
It's a first-hand account.
It's a girl saying, this is what happened to me.
And then you said this was sexual assault.
She said, no, it's not that.
And then you tried to make it that.
That's crazy, bro.
Bro, you even had our enemies coming to our defense.
That's how bad you fucked up on that one.
Even our enemies came to our defense.
You had your friends, Apple and Peach, come to our defense.
It is definitely my opinion that you sexually assaulted her.
That hasn't changed.
Well, sir, I would say the general consensus is that you're wrong, and you guys lost 10,000 subscribers that day after we did our episode.
I looked.
Bro, I lose 10,000 every day, bro.
It's like a fucking game.
You know what my opinion is?
You know?
Sure, you lose every day 10,000.
I mean, we could look.
You didn't lose 10,000 every single day.
Come on, man.
You guys got 3,000 subscribers.
Since you guys love Social Blade so much, why did y'all erase 100 million videos right before coming on our show?
We didn't.
What are you talking about?
Bro, quite literally, look at Social Blade.
You guys removed a ton of content from your channel.
Yeah, we're controversial, bro.
All of our shit is on Rumble.
What did you remove?
Yeah, we cleaned up our channel, bro.
All of our videos are on Rumble, man.
You cleaned it up.
Yeah, we cleaned up our channel.
Because we're not politically correct.
We've made great changes.
YouTube's good side.
Why yesterday of all time?
We didn't do it yesterday.
Yeah.
That's what it says here.
Nah, we did it weeks ago, man.
We did it about two weeks ago now at this point.
We're putting all the good stuff on Rumble.
Super transparent about that.
We said, yo, all of our videos on Rumble, go check it out.
All the best parts on Rumble.
Yeah, man.
Tap into it.
I mean, you know about YouTube censorship.
Okay, so you guys are going back and erasing offensive and things that you guys have said on your channel.
We want to make sure YouTube is happy.
I've done that too.
And everyone's happy.
And everyone does it, bro.
All creators do it, bro.
Yeah, bro.
Everybody, yeah.
We're controversial, man.
I mean, I don't know why you're...
I mean, that's not the point.
You're taking away from the point that you lost $10,000 on that day after making that video.
So I think the general consensus is that you're incorrect.
Then, you know, I'm happy to say bye-bye to...
To assault apologists.
You know what I mean?
Like, go enjoy Fresh and Fit.
There wasn't an assault, my friend.
That's the problem.
There's zero overlap in our fan base.
And that's fine.
And that's fine.
I think that's why we got so many people watching.
We got almost 20...
Actually, we got 30,000 plus on our side watching.
You guys usually erase your videos?
Like, you erased...
There was a video from yesterday you guys uploaded and then erased.
Which one was that?
Huh?
Yesterday.
No, we only did one.
We didn't even film yesterday.
I mean, uh...
We don't film on Tuesdays.
It was a video that was up, and then it was deleted yesterday.
Nope.
We did the Jake Shields interview, and that's still up.
Well, either way, man.
Nice try, though.
Video deletion is normal.
It's YouTube, bro.
But yeah, I mean, we're not running from that.
Like, yeah, we delete videos all the time because we're trying to be within the guidelines because our stuff is controversial.
So obviously we got to keep our real stuff.
There was a video where you were dressed up in some anti-Semitic outfit.
Oh, here we go.
With Zerka.
And it was up two days ago and it was gone yesterday.
It's private now.
What?
It was never up on the YouTube channel ever.
Never.
That is not true.
That is not true.
You're lying.
It's never been up.
Okay.
I've had the time step.
Where?
Show us.
Okay.
I'd love to.
I still got the time step.
Give me a sec.
Well, I've got it all here, too.
Well, you guys want to talk?
I mean, Myron, is it...
Is the timing of going and erasing your anti-Semitism have anything to do with the timing of this conversation?
Anti-Semitism?
What are you talking about?
Anti-Semitism.
Oh, are you denying being anti-Semite?
No, I'm not anti-Semite whatsoever.
Are you?
Do I hate myself?
I wonder.
Because I'm an Arab.
I'm technically a Semite as well.
Wait, hold on.
Do I hate myself by your logic?
Why do you wonder that?
I'm an Arab, so do I hate myself as well?
Yeah, I'm curious.
Because Arab are Semites.
I didn't ask if you're Islamophobic.
You guys want to talk about this?
So here.
You don't have to be a Muslim to be an Arab.
Yeah, I'm aware of that.
Are you okay?
You said Islamophobia.
Like, what?
There are Christian Arabs.
And there's Jewish Arabs, too, actually.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, okay.
So you say you're not anti-Semitic.
So here's the clip that...
This is the one that he erased from the other day?
This is from YouTube.
Yeah.
Here it is.
And then you can tell me if this is anti-Semitic or not.
You're sitting with Nick Fuentes, by the way, a known Neo-Nazi.
You agree with that, right?
He's a Neo-Nazi.
Uh, nope.
I wouldn't agree with you on that.
He's a Groyper.
Wouldn't agree with you on that.
He's an old account that he communicates with you with called Autumn Groyper or something.
Like, he literally is a self-described Groyper.
Kids love Hitler.
Kids love Hitler.
What does that have to do with, like, what's your point here?
You're taking one clip.
Once again, you're fantastic at taking sound bites and trying to run with the narrative.
You're fantastic at doing that.
We've debunked you a bunch of times trying to do that.
What's your problem with Nick?
Right.
Okay.
He's a great, upstanding guy.
There's nothing anti-Semitic about him.
Let's watch this clip.
He's gone.
He's anti-Semites.
Myron got the call?
Six million died.
So, at this point, what is this you're dressed up as?
And what does six million died refer to?
I can't see what you're showing.
Oh, really?
I can't see it.
It's you dressed in a long black beard and a black top hat and a suit.
So what is it you're dressed up as here?
You know what?
I'm really glad that you brought that up, Ethan.
You know what I have here?
Viking hat?
Mexican hat?
Are you anti...
Are you comparing...
wearing up...
Oh my god, bro.
Okay, bro, we can actually talk.
We don't need to see your whole wardrobe.
But that's very sassy and jesty of you.
No, because here's the thing, my friend.
I love when you guys do this.
Because you're going to go ahead and take one clip and say, You're going to show you the clips, man.
You're getting so emotional.
No, no, no, no, because this is fantastic.
I knew you would do this.
I knew you would do this.
And here's the thing.
I make fun of everybody.
I got hats for every single race, every single religion.
I'm a global Muslim.
I make fun of myself.
I literally...
I have more.
Would you like to see it?
Dude, you could show whatever you want.
I make fun of everybody, every race.
I'm not anti-anything.
I hate everyone equally.
I make jokes on everybody, bro.
Nice try, though.
You knew I would pull the videos you erased, right?
That's fantastic, man.
You could pull whatever you want.
Everything's on rumble, bro.
You do realize that we don't hide anything.
All this stuff is on rumble.
Let's continue.
Let's continue.
I understand...
What your point is.
Let's continue.
So you're dressed as a Jewish guy and you start saying six million died.
What is that about?
What do you mean by that?
I mean, hey, dude, if you want to debate on that, you could go ahead and obviously have that discussion with Nick.
But again...
Nick?
I thought he was a normal, upstanding dude.
No, he's a great guy, man.
He's a Holocaust historian.
Look, actually, you should bring him on your show.
Yeah, you should bring him on your show, man.
What about $59999?
Martin Stein is here.
Anybody need a loan, by the way?
High interest rates, but I can hook y'all up.
Low interest, man.
You know what's the most awkward part of the show?
What'd you say?
Is that anti-Semitic too?
What'd you say, Brad?
But okay, I understand.
You make fun of everybody, so we can let this clip go.
You know, I think I got a clip of you making anti-Semitic comments about Ben Shapiro, if I'm not mistaken.
If we want to go down this road.
If we want to go down this road, Ethan, we can do this.
I have a clip of you making anti-Semitic comments on Ben Shapiro.
Is it okay for me to say the N-word?
Ethan, you disabled our screen sharing.
Could you...
Delete that or whatever.
Because if you want to go down this road, that's cool, bro.
We could do it.
Are you guys having a hard time seeing the video feed?
Sorry to pause the debate for a second, but I do want to fix that so you guys can see.
I mean, this isn't really even a debate.
It's him trying to reach and getting stumped every single time.
I'm just wondering if you need me to fix something.
It's a technical question.
I'm trying to help.
Yeah, it's just a technical question.
Are you not able to see Ethan anymore?
We can't see Ethan right now.
We can't share our screen either.
We can't share our screen to show our videos.
If you want to send us links, I can post stuff up.
Oh, if you want the ability to screen share here, I think I just did that.
So, theoretically, you can screen share it now as well.
Yeah, but why did you take it off in the first place?
It's kind of weird, bro.
Unless they showed that social blanket.
Everything is a conspiracy, but it's off by default.
It was the Matrix.
It was the Matrix.
Guys.
It was the Matrix, exactly.
Okay, hold on.
Let's continue.
Okay.
I mean, hold on.
You don't want me to show the anti-Semitic clip of you talking about Ben Shapiro?
Go ahead.
Bring it up.
Can I say the N-word?
Myron, can I say the N-word?
I don't care.
You can do whatever you want, bro.
Whatever you want, bro.
Is it appropriate for a white person to say the N-word?
You're growing in.
You can say whatever you want.
What word?
Walter, is it appropriate for a white person to say the N-word?
No, no.
What word is that?
I'm sorry.
Coconut's sorry in my head.
What word is that?
Why are you acting like silly, like you don't know what I'm talking about?
Remember, coconuts for brains.
What word is that?
Can you just tell me real quick?
Oh, is that what happens when I'm making a point that you know is not easy for you to answer?
You go, oh, I can't hear you.
I got coconuts for brains.
What's that word, Ethan?
You're so smart, bro.
What's the word?
Just tell me real quick.
What's the word?
You know what?
Play the video.
I gotta get the clip.
What's that word, Ethan?
Come on.
You're smart, bro.
You got this.
Okay.
I'm waiting, bro.
I mean, look, bro.
You can say it if you want.
If you guys want to play videos of me saying the N-word, we can't show that, but I know that I have done it.
Oh, yeah, you did.
Actually, yeah, you did.
And you made a bunch of racial comments, too, saying the N-bomb all over the place.
Actually, Ethan.
I mean, if you're going to call me racist, bro, we're both racist together in that case.
Well, no, not quite.
I thought you guys were going to play the Ben Shapiro clip.
Yeah, let me get it real quick.
Oh, we have quite a few, by the way.
But I don't think it matters because I'm a Jewish man talking about another Jewish man.
Obviously, different rules apply there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I mean, you understand that.
You say that all the time, and obviously that's okay for you to do.
It's not racist if you say it, then.
It is racist, if I say it.
Okay, so you're a racist, too, then, I guess.
In those moments, I definitely had moments of racist behavior, for sure.
Okay, so we're on the same level then.
I guess we're both racist then by that logic.
Bro, let me just show you this point.
You're obfuscating so hard.
Let's just focus.
Okay, what do you want to focus on?
Okay, so the clip I showed you, you were dressed up as a, like, a ascetic Jew, talking about the six million that died in the Holocaust, but you make fun of everyone, so that's fine.
Yeah.
So let me go to some of the tweets you made.
Sure.
Nick Fuentes is a nice person.
He was a pleasure to have on the show.
They hate Nick because he criticizes valve problems in American foreign policy and dem boys.
Can you tell me what dem boys means?
So, I mean, you want to go into this realm?
Sure, yeah, of course.
I asked you, didn't I? He has very valid critiques of American foreign policy when it comes to Israel.
So what does dem boys mean?
Whatever you want it to mean.
Yeah, well, you know what it means.
The boys on the block?
What does it mean when you say it?
The boys in the streets.
It means Jewish people.
The boys in business?
Whatever you want it to mean.
Yeah, it could be whatever you want.
Well, no, you said I know what it means.
It means Jewish people.
Okay.
Is that what you want it to mean?
That, okay.
Coconuts.
I'm living in a reality where we're all sharing the same...
So you're trying to say that weird situation where we pretend that we don't know what anything means and we just pretend we have coconuts in our brains.
You said it before, many times.
So guys, let's just try to focus and do a point so we can actually talk about something.
Sure.
I thought, I mean, okay, you want to have a debate on this?
Okay, let's go.
The Bolsheviks killed millions of Russians.
Who's going to tell them they were them boys?
Yep.
That's a fact.
And then you say, this one is real interesting, you say the movie Europa is the most based documentary.
Yep.
Can I read a synopsis of that film?
Where are you going to read it from?
Wikipedia?
On one of the bot forums?
Well, tell me if you think this is inaccurate.
Okay.
Hold on.
I'm grabbing it.
Here it is.
So yeah, it's from Wikipedia, but if you have a better place to describe it, that's fine.
Bro, Wikipedia lies about everything.
Hell, they even make you look crazy on there, bro.
You're going to really read Wikipedia?
Well, it's all true.
It's all true what they say, I mean.
Here's the synopsis of the film, and then correct it where it's wrong.
The film promotes various anti-Semitic conspiracies claiming that communism was created by Jews with the goal of total world domination and that Jews control the world's money supply and are conspiring to engineer the downfall of white race by encouraging immigration and interracial relationships.
It also engages historical revisionism to claim that Jews started World War I and II as part of a plot to establish Israel by provoking the Nazis into acting in self-defense.
The film also claims that Jews caused Germany to defeat in World War I, which is commonly referred to as the stab in the back myth that Adolf Hitler...
Adolf Hitler was fighting against a global Jewish plot.
You called that movie based, most based.
Yeah.
It's very based.
It is very based.
I mean, is it 100% accurate?
No.
Most documentaries aren't.
There's always an air of air in everything.
Okay, alright.
I would say it's too based, honestly.
Way too based, honestly.
But you guys don't have a problem with the description?
I mean, dude, where'd you read that from?
You read that from Wikipedia, bro?
Tell me.
You've watched the movie.
Tell me if it's accurate.
Wait, you didn't watch it, Ethan?
Did you watch it?
No, I did not watch some fringe neo-Nazi documentary.
So that we can't even have a conversation, bro.
Ethan, what's wrong with you?
I'm not doing your research, bro.
Ethan, watch this video.
Come on, man.
Come on, bro.
Come on.
Damn it.
I was actually excited for a second.
I thought we were going to talk about this, man.
You wouldn't even watch it!
Come on, bro.
I can tell you that they said the sky was green in there and you wouldn't even know.
Oh, man.
Ethan!
Is this description accurate?
We don't know.
Do you know?
That's why I'm asking you, Walter.
Jesus Christ, man.
That's Wikipedia.
But what do you know, Ethan?
What do you know?
How about you watch it, Ethan, and I'd be happy to come back and have a discussion with you on it.
Hold on, let me talk to Cocoa Butter, or Coconuts.
Coconuts, get it right, Nick.
Coconuts, you've seen this video, this movie, correct?
I've seen everything.
I'm watching Ethan.
Why are we here?
Are we going to talk or are we going to be silly?
I thought we had a debate going on.
I don't know.
What is this?
Ethan, how about this?
Have you seen this movie?
I've seen everything in my life.
Ethan, look.
If you've never seen the movie, we can't even have a coherent discussion on it.
Is the description accurate?
Bro, to be honest, that's Wikipedia.
I don't know what's accurate on there.
What do you want me to tell you?
I read it to you.
I mean, what the fuck are you talking about?
Information entered your brain.
It's time to process it.
Toy Story, I watched when I was a kid.
Why can't y'all answer if it's accurate?
Doing one like a couple months ago.
I don't remember shit.
How do I remember?
We need to go one by one here.
Okay, Ethan, Ethan.
Okay, communism was created by Jews with a goal of world domination.
Agree or disagree?
I don't know.
Ethan.
If you didn't watch the movie, then we can't have a coherent discussion on it.
You didn't even watch it, bro.
You're reading a Wikipedia thing asking us if it's accurate.
I told you at the beginning, not all of it is 100% accurate, but it is accurate about a lot of things.
Which parts were inaccurate and which parts, you know what I mean?
You do realize that it's an eight hour long movie.
You do realize that, right?
That's a big commitment to being a fucking Jew hater.
I'm not a Jew hater whatsoever.
No, no, no.
My friend, number one, I'm not a Jew hater whatsoever.
We have a lot of close friends.
We're working on that.
We're working on trying to absolve you of that, but we're having a hard time.
We work with Jews.
We don't have an issue with Jews whatsoever.
We are critical of other things.
We just love movies that...
We're critical of other things that might not...
And here's the thing.
We're critical of people that aren't even Jewish a lot of the times.
So we're critical of a bunch of things.
But Jew haters, we are not.
Just to wrap this up.
On the movie Europa...
Of which the narrative is basically tons of conspiracy theories about Jewish people, a lot, which are echoed by Adolf Hitler and used as cause to kill Jews.
You describe that documentary as Europa is the most based documentary.
Yes, and the reason why I call it based, Ethan, is because it covers historical facts that are hidden from American history classes.
Well, you should watch the documentary and we can have a discussion on it.
Why can't you tell me?
But there's a bunch of things in it.
Tell me what, Walter?
Tell me what, Myron.
Because we can't have a coherent conversation if you haven't seen it.
You can't have a coherent conversation because you can't fucking talk about it because you know you'll look anti-Semitic as fuck if you even describe one thing it's about.
Well, you watch the movie, and then we can have a discussion on it.
But I'm telling you right now, because you tried to reach with the anti-Semitic thing saying that you wore a Jewish hat.
This is not a reach, my friend.
That was a reach.
Then, me saying that the movie is based, there's a bunch of other historical facts in there, right?
Like how the Federal Reserve came into play, etc.
So do you need to learn about the Federal Reserve through an eight-hour neo-Nazi fucking propaganda film?
What do you mean?
There's lots of books about that.
It would help.
Again, bro.
It would help.
I like to research history from all different angles.
You guys say that it's most based, but you refuse to tell me what it's about.
Dude.
Or if the description's accurate.
Dude, once again.
I told you.
Not everything is accurate in the film.
I told you that already.
Well, it's not accurate.
Watch the movie, bro.
It's eight hours of film.
You're a silly boy.
It's eight hours of film.
Obviously not all of it is going to be correct.
We're both silly together, my friend.
That's right.
One of us is fucking...
You know what I mean?
One of us hating Jews and being silly.
See, you keep trying to say that we hate Jews.
Actually, we don't hate Jews.
Ethan, do you have any black friends?
We just love Hitler.
Ethan, do you have any black friends?
We never said we love Hitler either.
You're putting words in our mouth.
Ethan, you love Hitler?
No, I'm being silly.
You didn't say that, but you did say that.
Ethan, you love Hitler, bro?
Go ahead, Walter.
Go ahead.
Ethan, you didn't just say that, did you?
You love Hitler?
Damn.
Yes, Walter.
You got me.
That is so based, bro.
That's crazy.
Walter, oh my god, bro.
What if we put that as a clip and made it a sound bite like you guys do?
Wow.
Oh my god, you guys.
What if we took that and said that?
What if we said, wow, Ethan Klein loves Hitler.
It's almost like I confessed to watching an eight-hour fucking documentary about a Jewish show.
Well, here's the thing, Ethan.
I watch one of my hobbies.
I like to watch World War II films.
I like to watch World War I films.
I like to watch documentaries in general.
I enjoy learning history.
I enjoy, okay, learning.
I watch the history channel.
One of my favorite YouTube channels is Nutty History.
I like to watch that as well.
Nutty!
Six million Jews died is a myth.
That's nutty.
How many Jews died in the Holocaust?
Do you know?
Do you know?
How many?
I mean, the number is like 6 million, right?
I mean, it's changed a bunch of times.
I mean, you tell us.
I don't know your history.
You don't know my history?
What does that mean?
How many?
You tell us.
I answered already.
You said like.
I don't know.
Well, you want me to give you the precise number of people that died in the Holocaust?
Yeah.
Eliminate us, Ethan.
You think that's possible?
Oh.
Okay.
Wait, you guys borrowed really fucking weird.
So you don't know.
So if I can't give you the exact amount of people that died in the Holocaust, then I don't know what I'm talking about?
That's literally, like, impossible to know.
Yeah, we don't know either, Ethan.
Six million people?
We don't know either, bro.
Just saying.
It's about six million, though.
I'm comfortable saying that.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, so you don't know exactly.
We don't either.
We'll take your word for it.
Well, I know close enough.
It's six million.
All right.
We'll take your word for it, bro.
Thank you.
And so how many do you think died in the Holocaust?
Whatever you think, man.
What do we think?
We think, too.
So you guys believe six million Jews died in the Holocaust?
Whatever you think, brother.
You guys cannot answer questions.
It's pretty incredible.
You both are just getting so emotional and you close off on me.
We're getting emotional?
I don't want you to close off on me.
I want you just to answer the question.
You guys are doing like...
You guys closed Crush Down and I just want to know how many...
I know you have an opinion.
Why are you afraid to say it?
Opinion?
You tried to debate us on a movie you didn't even watch.
You tried to debate us on a movie you didn't even watch.
Ethan, you did not do your homework for this debate, my friend.
Stand on your fucking beliefs, brother.
You did not do your research before this debate whatsoever.
You tried to say we're anti-Semitic.
That was a fail.
Try to say, you wear a Jewish outfit.
Like, I don't have a bunch of other outfits here.
That was a fail.
Hey, you watched an eight-hour movie, which I didn't watch at all, but I want to kind of ask you questions about, but I didn't watch.
I'm going to read a Wikipedia synopsis and say that this is true.
I told you that, and not all of it is correct.
But you have not refuted at all.
You won't even tell me what is in it or what's it about because you know it will make you sound crazy.
Why won't you just answer the question, how many Jews died in the Holocaust?
Why don't you watch it?
How about you watch it, man?
And we can have a discussion about it.
And you just told us what it was.
So, hey, we'll take your word for it.
Yeah, man.
By the way.
You guys are awesome.
By the way, Ethan.
You guys are so cowardly.
Like, if you're going to believe Shane, you stand on it.
You guys are being pussies.
You disabled our screen sharing.
You guys are such cowards.
I'm surprised.
I'm surprised you guys are such cowards.
You disabled our screensharing.
I'm not here like pussyfooting around like, oh, I guess I don't know.
Hold on.
I don't know.
You just sit on the screen, Sharon, bro.
Whatever you think.
That's like emotional, lame, closed down.
Like you guys are being babies.
Answer the questions I ask.
Us are you.
I've answered every question you guys have asked me.
Great.
Us too.
You want to like the answer?
You want to like the answer?
I don't like the answer, but we answered it.
How many Jews died in the Holocaust, Walter?
Whatever you said, bro.
Yeah, whatever you said.
That's not an answer.
Dude, I don't know.
Whatever you said, I believe you.
You are more worse than I am, my friend.
All right, well, you're up at base.
Let's not forget.
Okay, so you guys are not anti-Semitic.
I think we've pretty thoroughly debunked that claim.
I think it's pretty safe to say.
How are we anti-Semitic?
Break it down for us.
Tell us how we're anti-Semitic if you're going to make that claim.
How are we?
How many Jews died in the Holocaust?
You told us.
We're going off what you said.
Okay.
You guys don't want to have a serious conversation about it.
Okay.
So how are we anti-Semitic now?
Alright.
Let's move on to...
I'm making accusations.
I can't back it up.
No, it's been thoroughly proven you guys are anti-Semitic.
How are we anti-Semitic?
There's no point in like running in circles being like...
Let me ask you this.
Ethan, you do realize, right?
Because you want to talk about us bringing Nick Fuentes on the show.
You do realize like two days later we brought Dave Rubin on, right?
Oh, you're not going to talk about that, are you?
No, no, no, hold on, hold on.
No, no, no, the point I'm trying to make here is that we brought Nick Fuentes on.
Dave Rubin addressed what Nick Fuentes...
Come on, bro.
It's not about that.
I'm telling you that we brought Nick Fuentes on.
We brought Nick Fuentes on.
Then we went and brought Dave Rubin on.
Is Dave Rubin a Holocaust historian?
No, but he's a Zionist.
He's a Zionist, okay?
And that's fine, but we like to bring people on of different thought processes and different opinions, okay?
So just because we brought Nick on doesn't mean that we're not going to bring people on.
Dave Rubin, king of the Jews, baby.
I didn't say he's king of the Jews, but we bring people on with different perspectives.
Matter of fact, we're going to bring Laura Loomer on this week.
So we bring people on with different perspectives, dude.
You're trying to sit here and say that we're anti-Semitic, but we open our platform to Jews all the time.
So nice try.
Okay.
Awesome.
I mean, we're doing a podcast with you and you're Jewish.
Like, come on, man.
Wait, he is?
Yeah.
Oh, I forgot.
Yeah.
Okay, man.
Whatever.
We don't need to talk about it because it's a road to know.
No, no, no.
Because you're trying to say...
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Ethan.
Because you've tried, right?
You tried to make an accusation about us being sexual assault.
Then you're anti-Semitic and you're getting debunked right now.
If we're really anti-Semitic, why would we do a collab with you?
Why would we bring David Rubin on?
Let's move on to the next topic.
It's all been debunked.
Go ahead, Walter.
We're not anti-Semitic, man.
So...
We talk about dating in today's society, you know, men and women.
But in this case, you're married, bro.
Good job on that.
That is a compliment to you because obviously speaking, getting married nowadays is not easy.
Granted, how do you either make your wife happy?
How do you maintain a good relationship?
We want to hear your opinion on this.
How do you maintain a good relationship with your wife?
It's about maintaining mutual respect, listening, good communication, and genuine encouragement.
I think caring about the things that they care about and supporting them and treating them like equals, I think, is the paramount qualities in maintaining a good, healthy relationship.
That's good.
Now, question.
Let's say I'm a young guy, like 21, getting into the world.
How would I get a girlfriend or a wife, you would say?
What?
No, no, I want your opinion, bro, because obviously speaking...
I don't know.
What the fuck do you...
I don't know.
I don't care.
But hold on.
You criticize us about our opinions, but I just want to hear your opinion, bro.
I don't know.
I don't care, and I don't know.
Oh, so now you don't know?
All of a sudden you don't know?
How a 21-year-old is supposed to meet a girl?
I mean, what the fuck are we talking about?
So how can you criticize us about our opinions?
Okay, how about that?
Go into a crowd and talk to a girl.
I mean, go to a friend's party and talk to a girl.
Is that it?
Do you want me to list every possible way that people can interact, Walter?
What is your point?
You can meet at a bar.
You can meet at a train station.
You can meet at a restaurant.
You can meet at Walter's house.
You can meet Walter's mom.
She's a great lady right here.
You can meet at...
Actually, I don't know anything about your mom.
She might be bad, but I doubt it.
I think she's very sweet based on what I know about you.
You can meet at the beach.
You can meet at the ice cream bottle.
You can meet at the mall.
You can meet in an airplane.
You can meet in a blimp.
Do you want me to keep going on, Walter, or is this enough?
You got it, bro.
You got it.
That was a good answer.
Okay, good.
Alright, so we talked about...
That's...
That's...
Whoa!
That's the end of your fucking questioning?
No, no, because...
What are you just doing?
That right there just shows...
What?
Continue, bro.
Wait, no, no, don't continue.
What was your point?
No, you criticized us about our talking points, but yet, you yourself have no solution to the problem.
So it's almost like, why have you criticized us about our talking points?
Oh, because I didn't have a canned response to how 21-year-old men are supposed to meet women.
That's crazy.
I mean, it's not about a canned response.
I mean, you're hypercritical on how we approach modern dating and how to deal with it.
And your response isn't really conducive to being successful in a dating marketplace nowadays, which I thought that's what the debate would be.
But I should have known that you would try to do some stuff like this, pulling out, you know, oh, talk is Andrew Tate, anti-Semitism, blah, blah, blah.
You have Charleston White on, who's a rapist, which all of you have been debunked.
Which I'm actually happy because this debate has exposed a lot of criticisms that we've gotten from other creators, so we've been able to debunk it on your platform, which we appreciate.
Yes.
You have beaten the anti-Semitism charges, my friend.
We definitely have.
You still can't explain how we're anti-Semitic.
You're right.
I have no possible explanation.
21-year-old men, they're out trying to meet women.
How do we avoid, how does these young men avoid meeting thoughts, whatever that is?
That's your question?
Yes.
How do they avoid meeting?
When you say thoughts, let me be clear about this.
Are we talking about, like, promiscuous women?
I guess that's what it means, right?
I mean, something like that, yeah.
Okay.
So, I mean, you just got to look for the warning signs.
Right.
There's a bunch of them.
There's many.
Can you list some?
I mean, there's a bunch, but here's the thing.
It's not like, you know, it's like, oh, if she has these signs, she's definitely a thought.
You know, there's always going to be exceptions to the rule, but all you can do is watch behavior over a prolonged period of time, which is why we're big on, you know, vetting a girl for at least six months to a year and just watching behavior.
But having a lot of guy friends, liking to party, former drug use, Current drug use.
Alcoholic.
Former alcoholic.
Being involved in certain professions where she has to display sexuality to make money.
Strippers, OnlyFans.
Promiscuous.
Porn star.
Promiscuous.
Bottle girl.
She, you know...
She was in a sorority that likes to party.
She went to a party college.
She was in the military.
She was in job fields where she was surrounded by men.
She didn't have a father.
There's a million things.
Okay, regarding showing the body and all this kinds of stuff, Coconuts, and I mean this with no disrespect to her because I don't know anything about her, but just to what you say, is your girlfriend a thought?
Who?
Your girlfriend.
Wait, what?
Which one?
Your girlfriend?
Which one?
The one that you're like seriously involved with?
Daisy?
Oh, Daisy?
Just cool.
Yeah, she's your girlfriend.
Is she a thought?
Who said that?
I'm asking you a question.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't know anything.
Are you...
Well, I'm showing pictures.
Can you guys see the feed?
She's showing...
And she's in bikinis.
She does, like, fitness stuff where she's surrounded by...
You guys know about the, like, pageant business with, like, the guys in the back and stuff.
So she's doing all that.
Here's a picture of her ass.
At the gym.
She's wearing really tight yoga pants.
Really suggestive.
Is she a thought?
Is this a problem?
She can do whatever she wants to do.
Oh, okay.
That's nice.
So, Ethan, you might not...
Well, here's the thing.
He doesn't get it.
Ethan, we see multiple women at the same time.
We're not monogamous.
Yeah, I don't believe you.
You guys both have girlfriends, and you love them, and I think that's special.
Bro!
And I don't know why you guys have to- Dude, you don't research, bro.
Ethan, you really did a bad job here, man.
Dude, you don't research, bro.
You don't know us at all!
Goddamn, Ethan!
Myron, I just have to say, don't you think it's a little- Well, go ahead and play- Let me play you this clip, and then- The Coconuts, you say that it's totally fine, but here is a clip of you talking about- Well, if you're in a serious kind of relationship with a guy and you have, you know, sexy photos of yourself on the internet, you know, Instagram is just one medium that you can do it.
Yeah, it is cheating.
She's posting pictures like that?
Bro, it's a wrap, man, for you.
It's a wrap.
So I don't like that.
It's not sexualizing or something.
So, okay.
Ethan, Ethan, what's your purpose of getting and or attention?
I know exactly what this is.
And it's not traditional.
OnlyFans, whatever, even if you're not a hoe.
Myron, look, the titty's out.
The titty's out on that top left.
Scroll up a little bit, Chris.
Look at this.
This is a haram.
I can't see what you're showing.
That's your girlfriend, Myron.
You called her a hoe.
You called her a hoe, I believe, was the terminology.
Yeah, and I said, again, and I'm really glad that you brought this up because I knew you were going to bring this up.
I knew you were going to bring this up.
See, you're very predictable, my friend.
Bro, just talk.
No, no, no, no, because we all cook you, man.
This is why you've been ducking us for years.
So in the first clip, when I said you're in a long-term committed relationship, right, and having photos of yourself like that, it is cheating.
Well, guess what?
Since she's been my girl, guess what's on her profile?
It's hidden.
It's private.
She doesn't have those pictures up.
Okay?
So you're saying things that happened in the past don't matter?
She deleted thousands of people that used to follow her, right?
Or hundreds or whatever it may be beforehand.
So if things happened in the past, and she's moved on, and then that stuff doesn't matter anymore.
Well, it's not about that.
It's about how does she acquiesce to you?
Does she get into your frame once you get with her?
Okay?
So, with the thing with Fresh, because you reached there, that's not his main girl.
And then as far as, like, my girl goes...
Play the sound, Zach, what was it?
She's posting pictures like that?
Bro.
It's a rock, man, for you!
You said it's a rock.
Playing it out of context.
Ethan!
Ethan!
You're trying to expose me, right, bro?
But you obviously don't know what I do, bro.
This is literally why I say you're not prepared because obviously you don't watch our channel.
You don't know how we move.
And it's funny because we get pussy, bro.
You don't.
So it's just like, bro, what are you trying to say here, bro?
Yeah.
I mean, like I said, man, it's all about- You were just congratulating me on being married, Walter.
What the heck?
Bro, it's a wrap.
So, again, like I was saying...
No, hold on.
Pick a lane.
Do you get pussy and I'm mad about it, or are you actually unmarried?
You're trying to expose us.
We don't know how we move.
I still congrats to you because that's what you can do with one girl.
That's fine.
Myron, our coconuts, do you usually take your side girls to meet your mom and buy her presents for her birthday?
Well, it's a video.
She bought her really a wonderful mother.
Ethan, have you watched Fresh's vlogs?
This is your girlfriend.
Who, by the way, more power to her.
She seems successful.
And God bless her for getting out there and shaking her body, showing her body.
And I think that, I think women, I think it's fantastic that women feel empowered.
I think it sucks that you guys wrap yourselves into pretzels.
And now that you guys have actually entered relationships, which hasn't happened until recently, you're getting called out by your own fans.
You're having to justify.
You just love the girl and you want to be in a relationship.
And the real world isn't black and white like you guys try to imagine it is.
Ethan, can I respond to this real quick?
Can I respond to this real quick?
No, no.
You just love your girl.
You know what I mean?
Love is love, dude.
You guys.
Just give in.
This is why it's funny.
You know why?
I used to do vlogs with different girls every single day.
Multiple girls in my videos, right?
So, I stopped doing it because people were acting weird with the girls and their family.
So stop posting that.
Doesn't mean it stopped.
It just means I moved differently.
Now granted, you're gonna say, oh, bro, this girl's your girlfriend.
Cool, well then guess what?
I don't believe you guys have multiple partners.
Well, you wouldn't know.
You're not here in Miami.
You don't see us.
I don't know.
So Ethan, let me explain too.
Let me assume again.
So Ethan.
Y'all fucking have girlfriends.
Because you're fantastic at a...
These two dudes have girlfriends.
Gay!
Exposed!
You guys are so exposed right now.
Ethan.
What do you mean exposed?
I do a weekly show with my girl and I say she's my girl on my show.
What are you talking about?
What do you mean exposed?
Myra is the one dodging.
I'm not dodging anything.
Everyone knows that my girl is Angelica.
We do a weekly true crime show together.
We do a weekly true crime show together.
Also...
With that said.
She's not a hoe.
She was a hoe, but she's not a hoe anymore.
I love the fact also, because if you're going to play that clip, I also said in there like, oh, well, we don't know.
This is one of the profiles where you got to get to know the girl.
Exactly.
I said that too, but you made sure to not show that part, didn't you?
Because again, I knew you would do that.
I'll watch it again.
So again, well, you don't watch anything, which is why you are very ill-informed.
But let me go ahead and educate you on something real quick.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on one second.
Hold on one second.
Ethan, Ethan, let me, let me, let me, are you going to let me talk, bro?
Because we let you talk.
We can do it.
We let you make your ridiculous claims.
Can we post?
It's a wrap, man, for you.
It's a wrap.
It's not sexualizing ourselves.
When you post pictures of yourself on the internet...
Yo, Ethan, I can't see what you're showing, by the way, FYI. It is sexualizing yourself.
And it's not traditional.
OnlyFans, whatever, even if you're not a hoe.
Myron, look, the titty's out.
The titty's out on that top left.
Scroll up a little bit, Chris.
Look at this.
This is a haram.
Oh, yeah.
And you don't show the full thing as you're expecting.
He's not showing the full thing.
So, okay, Ethan.
So you're just playing the same clips over and over, and that's what you do.
You just play clips out of context is what you do when you try to run with the narrative, and that's what you guys have done.
Out of context?
What the fuck do you mean?
Yeah, because I told you before.
Okay, so after you called her a hoe and said you're for the streets, you said psych?
No, no, no.
What I'm telling you is, I was like, oh, well, with this profile, you got to get to kind of get to know the girl, right?
So here's the other thing, too, I want to say.
Because you're trying to run with this narrative of, like, blah, blah, blah, right?
Number one, we're Fresh's situation, right?
Because you brought up the Asian girl.
Fresh used to literally vlog a girl on his other channel every day, but he had to stop that shit because people started getting weird and sending girls weird messages, etc.
So he's with different women every day.
That's not one of his main girls.
I know this is a foreign concept to you because, yes bro, many girls have met his mom, if I'm going to break the fucking bubble to you.
Many girls have met his mom.
Many girls have met his mom.
Many girls have met his mom, bro.
He don't want to say this shit, so I'm going to say it for him.
Look, many girls have met his mom.
That's number one.
He has to stop doing that shit.
Is that right, Walter?
Yes.
Hold on.
That's a funny thing.
Walter, how many girls have met his mom?
Damn.
Many girls have met his mom.
Okay, so that's not a flex.
How many girls have met his mom?
Walter, shit.
That's the truth.
Respect your mama's time, man.
That's the truth.
I'm in theory.
He exposed me to the snow.
He just exposed me to the snow.
Yeah.
Fuck.
Like five girls have met his mom, bro, so nice try.
So number two.
No, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
This is good.
Why is it an expose, Walter?
Because I don't want to out there like that.
So it's not it, because you're trying to use that to support your claim that that's his main ground.
I'm trying to tell you, all girls meet his mom, bro.
The game is to be sold, not told.
Do you understand, Ethan?
You would understand that.
You have no game.
He'd be selling dreams to these girls, bro.
It is what it is.
That's what he does.
Now, with that said...
What did you say, Walter?
The game is to be sold, not told, my friend.
Yeah.
So, now with me, right?
With Angie.
Isn't your whole show telling the game?
Isn't that what your whole fucking show is?
No, no, no.
To you.
Because you wouldn't understand.
Oh, to me.
Because I'm married.
With kids.
Lame.
Like, I'm a loser married with kids.
No, I said, once again, congrats to you.
But you can't put that on me, because I don't want to do that right now.
Yeah, I mean, if we want to talk about girls, why is your girlfriend going to the gym right now?
Why is your wife going to the gym?
Yeah, why is she going ahead and starting to work out now?
I'll tell you this.
That's one of the number one signs she's about to leave you.
Oh, now she wants to be healthy.
Interesting.
Every girl that goes to the gym is going to be cheap.
Because you want to bring my chick into it, so I'm letting you know your wife is working out.
That's a big sign, my friend.
Both of y'all girlfriends are at the gym.
What?
What?
Walter, your girlfriend works out all the time.
Who?
No, my girl started going to the gym because I told her.
No, no, no.
My girl started going to the gym because I told her to go.
She goes with me.
Girlfriend, what?
I don't know where.
When?
I just told you.
My wife is due, and my wife who's working out to cheat on me is actually due to have a baby in less than a month.
Okay.
Third baby, by the way.
Third baby.
Congratulations, man.
A boy.
Three boys.
Can I get a big ups for my sperm?
One of the telltale signs.
of a woman leaving a man and she starts going to the gym.
It's very well documented.
I'm just telling you to watch out.
Since you want to go ahead and have...
She's posting pictures just like that too.
She posts a picture of herself in the gym and stuff like that, man.
You might want to watch out.
And here's the other thing too, because you want to mention with Angie.
Remember, she was single when I met her and then she changed everything up.
Hold on, Ethan.
We'll let you talk, bro.
Yeah, so, again, once she got with me, she switched everything up.
And I'm in an open relationship.
I do what I want.
No, you're not.
She's monogamous to me.
No, I'm open on my end.
She's closed on her end.
Okay?
I know that's something that...
That's a lie.
How's that a lie?
Because I know you guys are cute and you love your girlfriends.
She packs my condoms.
You guys, it's just part of your business.
Nice try, Ethan.
Again, ow.
Ethan declines.
She packs my fucking condoms.
Bro, when I travel, she packs my condoms.
Ethan, if you're not aware...
You guys have two wonderful ladies, and you want to treat them right, and I think that's great.
And they're both beautiful to me.
It's a wrap.
Ethan, you're trying so hard.
If you're not aware, we travel a lot.
We're here in Miami.
We do double dates all the time.
Walter, you've had sex with 1,000 women, you claim.
Maybe it could be more.
It could be less.
Who knows?
The point is though, Ethan, you don't know how we operate.
You just assume because that's all you do.
Assume everything.
So you've had sex with 1,000 women and then Myron, you've had sex with, was it like 450 or something about that?
You have the exact number.
Yeah, it's like four something.
It's like almost 500.
Count each one?
That's creepy.
How's that creepy?
You have like a kill list?
Like, what are you doing?
You catalog every woman you have sex with?
You know, that's interesting because your partner, Hasan, sat down right next to a girl that cataloged the dick size, the amount of guys, the names, all this other shit.
Well, you partnered with him and did a podcast together.
That's your friend, bro.
I don't know anything about that, girl.
I don't give a fuck.
And you want to call me anti-Semitic.
Yeah, you know what?
It's weird what she did.
That's weird.
But you partnered with that guy, right?
That's your friend.
No.
That's your friend.
Well, he didn't do it.
She did.
If he did it, it'd be weird.
He didn't check her on it at all.
If he did it, if she did it, it'd be weird.
If fucking Abraham Lincoln did it, it'd be weird.
Oh, okay.
You know what I mean?
If Myron gains Tatalog's 447, I mean, how long is that list?
You got like a whole fucking Torah scroll of girls you fuck.
That's crazy.
Hey man, I'm not writing down like they're fucking titty size and all this other shit like that other girl.
And your partner was totally cool with that.
Which, by the way, he's even more critical of Israel than me.
And you don't call him anti-Semitic, do you?
Interesting, your buddy Hassan.
As a matter of fact, that's why I don't do the podcast no more.
Because he was critical of you being a super Zionist, right?
It might surprise you to know, but being against Israel doesn't make you anti-Semitic.
Really?
When did I mention Israel?
I didn't even mention Israel when I was accusing you.
Wow!
Yeah!
I know!
Because if you did mention Israel, you would know that that's what I'm critical of.
Not Jewish people.
The nation of Israel is what I'm critical of.
So now, so Hassan is an anti-Semitic?
Cool.
Neither am I. And he says way more stuff than I do about that conflict.
What has he said about the movie Europa?
Did you watch it?
You're so funny.
I haven't read Mein Kampf, but I know it's not good.
Have you read Mein Kampf?
How do you know it's bad?
Have I read Mein Kampf?
Yeah.
No, I haven't read it.
Is Mein Kampf a bad book?
Read it.
I mean, I don't know.
No, you tell us.
Have you read it?
You should read it.
Have you read it?
Yeah, I mean, it's about Hitler.
It's about Hitler's dreams of basically world domination and that Jews are the root of all the world's problems.
It's a prelude to the Holocaust.
Did you read it?
Yeah, what do you think about it, man?
Did you read it?
No, I literally started this conversation by saying I haven't read it, Walter.
So then what are we talking about it?
Okay.
What the fuck?
I'm just saying, if you're going to call me anti-Semitic, then your partner Hassan is definitely anti-Semitic too, bro.
Your former partner Hassan is definitely...
All I'm going to say is if you're going to call me anti-Semitic for being critical of Israel, then you've got to call your former partner Hassan anti-Semitic too.
For saying one thing about Israel, man.
You're conflating you being a neo-Nazi with being a critic of Israel.
Well, that's what I'm critical of is Israel.
So clearly I'm not anti-Semitic by your logic.
Thanks.
God, you are really dense.
I'm not dense at all.
I'm just saying, like, you try to call me anti-Semitic.
You got me.
You got me, buddy.
So, alright, what else do you got?
Because my girl packs my condoms, so we're in an open relationship.
I know you're saying, like, that's unfathomable.
I can't believe that.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
I mean, what?
You want me to send you sex videos or something?
What do you want?
Absolutely not.
Like, well, what do you need?
Like, bro, why do you care?
Yeah, that's strange.
Why do you care what we do with girls, bro?
Like, yeah, that's a little weird, man.
Like, how do you not?
You don't believe us?
Aren't you married, bro?
I do not believe you guys.
Absolutely not.
What do you not believe us about particularly?
What do you not believe us?
Please tell us.
You guys are in a loving relationship with your wonderful girlfriends.
So we're monogamous.
You think we're both monogamous.
And you're monogamous.
And also, Walter, you've slept with probably 15 women.
And Myron, eight.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, you know what, Ethan?
Okay, so you don't believe in our body counts either?
No, no, no, it's fine.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I just find it weird.
That's your comeback.
I'm horrifying to a man about my body count.
That's weird, bro.
So you think I got an 8 body count, and you think Fresh has a 15 body count, and you think we're monogamous.
Okay.
Keep it that way, bro.
Cool.
Fantastic.
Whatever you think, bro.
That's awesome.
Six million?
Whatever you think, bro.
Whatever you think.
Nice.
Bring it back to the Holocaust.
That's what you said.
Bring it back to the Holocaust denial.
That's what's up.
You said that.
That's what you said.
Yeah.
Let's not forget about that.
All right.
What else?
I thought you wanted to debate, like, you know, masculinity and dating or what.
You haven't even got to that.
Okay, I'll ask you a question in that realm.
Why is it important how many women you've had sex with?
I never said that was important.
You've said your body count.
You've said you've sucked at a thousand.
So it's not important how many women men have slept with?
Not really, no.
Well, I would say you do need experience.
You need experience, but like, I mean, after a certain number, it just becomes novelty at that point.
So it's like, no, I mean, it's not important.
So why do you count?
I'm just curious.
Why do you count each one?
I just count.
I mean, I'm just one of those guys.
I kind of document everything in my life.
That's just how I am.
And Walter, do you count?
No.
It's too many to count.
In Welter's case, this dude would be fucking every day, multiple times.
That's my boy.
He barely has time to do the podcast.
He's just fucking on the way to work.
You know why it's important to document things, Ethan?
I document everything so that when people make allegations, try to say you sexually assaulted a girl, you're prepared.
And you're able to do a six-hour podcast with all the evidence proving that you're innocent and you didn't do shit.
Because accusations like that can tarnish your career.
So I do document everything for that very reason.
Great.
Fantastic.
Yep.
Well, let's see.
Coconuts, you are religious, right?
Who said that?
Oh my god, what's the point of this conversation, man?
Do you want to end the conversation?
Well, Ethan, while you're on your decline, I just think you should research properly before you assume, you know?
Yeah, you didn't research much, man.
You didn't research anything, bro.
Well, yeah, you did a little, you did like, yo, you gotta fire the people that did your research for you, bro.
Terrible team, bro.
Goddamn.
May I accuse you guys of being bad faith?
Sure.
How are we bad faith?
Go ahead.
Well, we can start by not answering any fucking question I ask.
Oh, we answered you.
You answer every question I have with like, what do you think?
That's like cowardly lame combo.
You guys suck.
Myron, are you religious?
No.
Sorry, not Myron.
Walter, are you religious?
What do you think?
You look so silly.
You know why I say that, Ethan?
Because if you did research, you would know what the answer is.
I know what the answer is, dude, but that's part of having a conversation, man.
No, no, no.
Tell the audience what I am.
Let's see how your assistants did.
Let's see how they did.
What is he, and we'll tell you if he's right or wrong.
Go ahead.
Well, I see you're wearing a cross.
Okay.
I believe you come from a religious family, correct?
Okay.
I believe that you have a family member, a grandpa, or someone like that who's a pastor.
No.
I believe you might have been studying to become a pastor at some point.
Yes.
Okay.
And I believe that I'm not 100% sure what your current status is with religion, and hence the question, my friend.
Okay.
Well, the answer is no.
Okay.
Very good.
Cool.
How fun was that?
You're just a thrill and a joy.
It was great.
And you're so monotone.
Thank you.
Ethan, you can't get mad at us.
Ethan, you can't get mad at us because you've been a little ill-researched.
So we kind of wanted to see how accurate you would be with that one.
I mean, you guys say that, but I'm pretty spot on.
I wouldn't say you're spot on, man.
No problem.
You've got things way out of context, way off.
Okay.
You know, you literally said our body counts are 8 and 15, man.
You're not spot on at all.
Yeah, 8 and 15.
And then you also said that we're monogamous relationships and we're loving relationships with our girlfriends.
Exposed!
And then you went ahead and said that I'm exposed for having a girlfriend when I have a weekly show where I call her my girlfriend on my true crime channel.
We literally play Overwatch together and stream it.
What are you talking about, dude?
Like, everyone knows I got a girl.
I've never hid that.
You know who I know is bad?
Wikipedia is the source.
Well, you guys have seen the movie.
What's a better source than asking you guys?
No, I mean, dude, I would hope you would have done better research than that.
Goddamn, Ethan!
You've seen the movie.
Tell me what it's about.
I'm prepared.
What else do you want to talk about?
What is Europa about?
Bro, watch the movie and we can have a discussion on it.
I spent eight hours watching this film and I can't remember anything about it.
Yeah, that pales in comparison to other documentaries that I've watched on World War II. I watch everything, dude.
That's a special one, though.
Come on.
That's one of the special ones that you've got.
You can't find it on Netflix, you know what I mean?
Okay, so I'm evil.
Like, I'm a bad guy for looking at alternative history and looking to see something that isn't necessarily in mainstream media.
I think that's important to look at all things.
Again, like with your claim saying that you're anti-Semitic, I bring Nick Fuentes on, I bring Dave Rubin on, I bring Laura Loomer on, I bring people on.
Dave Rubin is not king of the Jews.
That's not the point of bringing...
Nick Fuentes is a neo-Nazi.
Look, look.
The point is that I'm okay with having conversations with people that have different views than I do.
And I'm okay with having people from different walks of life come on this podcast and talk.
What other World War II documentaries would you consider based?
There's a couple, man, that are pretty good.
Can you name them?
Sure.
I like Numek.
I think that's a good one.
Numek?
Yeah.
It's made by, yeah, pretty based.
Talks about, you know, how John F. Kennedy was killed.
You should definitely check that out.
Wait, what's the, can you read?
Is it okay if I read the synopsis of that one?
I don't know if that has a synopsis.
I don't know if that one has a synopsis, man, but it's very historically accurate.
So wait, where are you finding this shit?
Nobody's ever wrote a description of it.
That's what you're saying?
It's on Rumble, you're not going to find it.
In the human history?
You're not going to find it, it's on Rumble.
For obvious reasons.
Yeah.
But it's all historically accurate.
Extremely historically accurate.
What's it about?
Well, it covers a bunch of things.
It covers how, you know, the nuclear bomb was stolen from the United States.
It talks about how organized crime was involved in the United States.
Where was the nuclear bomb flown to?
It was stolen from the United States and moved to Israel.
Stolen by who, Myron?
I just told you by Israel.
Why didn't you just say that from the beginning?
I literally just told you.
You didn't let me finish because you kept interrupting.
I was telling you the documentary and then you were interrupting me as I was trying to tell you what it was.
Okay, so let's keep going.
So it's about how Israel stole a nuclear bomb from America.
Yep.
Which is a fact, by the way.
Go on.
It's a fact.
Okay, go on.
What else is it about?
Anything else, bro?
This is getting boring.
Yeah.
What do we do, Coco?
What do we do?
Well, the client, I mean, at this point, I don't know.
This is your debate.
Yeah, I mean, that's a historical fact.
You guys are being very subservient to me right now.
I like that.
We're not being subservient to you.
We're just letting you know that, like, hey.
You laid down and you're all spread out for me.
That's strange.
What, Piglet?
I call this civil debate, which, you know, on our end, we've been very professional.
We've been avoiding ad hominems.
You've been taking a lot of ad hominems.
You haven't really even debated any of our ideas.
You've come at us more than actually attacking any of our ideas or our viewpoints.
You've just been coming at us the whole time, which is cool.
I expected that you would do this, which is why we were prepared.
Okay, so you can't be that disappointed.
No, no, no.
I mean, I knew you would do this.
Wait, is there anything you want to ask me?
Since this has been very subservient with me in firm control of the interview.
No, no.
Nice try, man.
We're having a respectful debate on.
Which I tend to be in control of interactions with people.
We came here to have a respectful debate.
It's just one of my kind of alpha traits, along with being married and having kids and being quite successful.
So alpha that you didn't want to have this debate in person when I asked you to do it in person, right?
Ooh.
What does that matter?
Oh, okay.
So awful, but you don't want to have this conversation in person like I wanted to.
Who cares?
Oh, now it's who cares.
I think that's a pretty important detail, Ethan.
Why?
You know, that sounds pretty subservient that you want to do it on the internet and not in person.
What?
Oh, okay.
Not so subservient now, huh?
Zoom is subservient?
No, I'm telling you that I wanted to have this conversation in person and you don't want to do it.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I prefer Zoom.
I do all these kind of interviews on Zoom.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I think that says a lot.
What, are you going to beat my ass?
What are you saying?
I never said that.
Why would I be scared?
You're implying I'd be scared if you came to the office, right?
I don't know why you didn't want to do it.
I don't know why.
You tell us why you didn't want to do it in person.
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because when I do these types of interviews with people, it's good to have an out for us and you.
Sometimes they get contentious, sometimes they get heated.
And when it's on Zoom, we can just hang up and carry on.
And same with you guys.
So that's why I've never had anybody in studio for these types of debates.
Okay, well, here's the thing with me.
I like to, you know, be able to look a man in his eye when he disagrees with me and we can have a civil conversation, right?
And make sure that, you know, it stays integrity-based, respectful, etc.
Because I'm pretty confident he wouldn't have said half the things you said on the Zoom call in person.
I would have said everything I said to your face every fucking time.
Then let's set it up in person and meet in person and have this discussion.
I don't want you in my studio.
How about you come to Miami?
How about you come to Miami?
You're so upset.
You have a six pack and so you think that that will intimidate me.
I never said that.
Over the internet, it seems that I have the edge.
Personality wise, control wise, success wise, relationship wise, family wise.
You're making this very personal, Ethan.
I just said I want to have a conversation in person.
I just said we can have a conversation in person.
You don't have a one up on me?
No, I just said we can have this conversation in person.
You don't want to do it, and that's fine.
I think that signals a lot of things, but that's cool.
I mean, I'd be happy to have it in Miami.
I fly you out here first class.
We can have a conversation in person.
I'm not saying that there's going to be any violence or anything like that.
Can you not express yourself over a video call?
No, we absolutely can, but I'm saying you're trying to have this frame of like, oh, well, I'm the dominant one, blah, blah, blah, and I'm telling you, well, you didn't even want to do this in person.
You got dominated today, my friend.
You didn't dominate anything, my friend.
We debunked all of your points.
Yo, nigga.
But we can continue on.
Like I said, you've just been doing ad hominem attacks.
You've been reaching, etc.
We debunked a bunch of your points.
Which is fantastic.
Do you guys want to ask me today?
I'll give you the floor.
I'll relinquish control briefly for you guys to ask me something.
No, no, no.
It's fine.
We've asked you a few questions.
You said you wanted to debate on something with intersexual dynamics and dating.
Go ahead.
What did you want to ask?
Would you want to debate?
Because you're the one that asked to do this debate, by the way.
You said you wanted to debate masculinity, dating, all this other stuff.
None of that was actually covered, which is cool.
I anticipated this would happen.
No, I think we covered pretty well what we said.
We said, what did we say?
I mean, it doesn't matter.
I don't care.
Who gives a fuck?
No, no.
Who gives a fuck?
Well, we said, like, dating, culture, men and women, and we said general stuff that you guys talk about.
This is all stuff you guys talk about.
You've had Nick Fuentes on.
I showed you clips of that.
How is that taking you out of context?
There was no comment.
There was no talk at all about foreign policy with Israel and America, but that's fine.
I mean, we could talk about that.
I mean, it's whatever, man.
It's cool.
Like I said, we're prepared.
What do you want to add?
Okay, so my question is, why does body count matter?
You guys said it doesn't, which is interesting.
I'm pretty sure that's a contradiction.
It depends.
Matter to what?
We agreed on masculinity, feminism, body count, etc.
You said body count when it comes to men and sexual partners.
We said, yeah, I mean, it doesn't really matter like that.
You should get your experience, but it doesn't matter like that.
But men and women aren't the same.
You said specifically for men.
How do I remember your questions more than you do?
Yeah, okay.
Body count matters for women.
Right, this is one of your guys' great points.
Walter, does body count matter for women?
Absolutely.
Really?
Well then your mom does it.
No, I'm just kidding.
I won't do that.
What'd you say?
She's lovely.
Are we going to have a debate on actual topics or are you going to keep making ad hominems?
Oh, it's clearly over.
You want to ask me anything or not?
You guys are so subservient.
I'm going to put a little fluffy pink handcuffs on you guys.
You're trying so hard to trigger us and it's just failing.
Love your girlfriends.
You naughty boys love your girlfriends and that is so gay.
It's a wrap.
That's gay to love women?
What?
That doesn't make sense, Ethan.
Wow.
No, it is a joke.
I know it's hard to comprehend.
Alright, so I guess you guys didn't prepare any questions?
Oh, we asked you, bro.
But apparently you're not first in the topic, so there's no point.
Yeah, I mean, the thing is, is that you're hypercritical of what we tell guys on how we advise them to move with modern dating.
And then we ask that question, you couldn't even really give any type of, you know, solid game plan for guys to move.
So I find it interesting how people like you, people like Hassan, you know, people on the left.
People like you guys typically tend to be hypercritical of how we tell guys to move, which we've saved.
I don't know if you get this message, but we get thousands of messages from guys saving them from committing suicide, hurting themselves, etc.
I don't know if you guys get that.
You saved them all.
Yeah, we saved them from making really bad decisions to women because guys really do make a lot of bad decisions to women.
I think if there's men that watch this show, if they've learned anything, it's probably how to respect...
And how to have a long-term healthy relationship with a woman that you can call your wife and have a family with.
But how do you get a wife, Ethan?
Bro, what the fuck, man?
Do you need me to do the Dr.
Seuss listing places again?
I'll write a guide.
I'll write a guide.
Because my thing is, you're talking about the finish line.
What about the race?
You understand?
You have to get to a certain point where you can even identify a female that's worthy of marriage, of having a family with, etc., And unfortunately, in today's day and age, it's not that simple anymore.
We live in a very complex world where it's difficult to identify women that are marriage material.
And most aren't.
Simply, that's just what it is.
What was that?
If you guys' method is so good, why aren't you married?
Again.
Because men are the ones that decide if they want to get married.
Choice.
So you choose not to be married.
Yes, because men are the ones...
We're the gatekeepers to marriage and commitment.
Women are the gatekeepers to sex.
Right.
And you're 34, right, Myron?
Yes.
And do you plan on getting married someday?
Do you think it's important?
Eventually.
The nuclear family is the backbone to any thriving society.
Thank you for saying that about me.
Good job, but a lot of guys don't have that ability to find a woman that's worthy.
You don't have that ability.
I don't have that ability?
You're not married!
That's by choice.
But no, the ability to find a woman, you clearly don't have that ability.
Who said I was looking right now?
Well, let me ask you this.
Let me ask you this, Myron.
If you are single by choice and you don't...
Let me ask you this.
I do have a main girl.
Why are you on sugar daddy websites?
We've talked about this extensively.
He couldn't afford my $10,000 allowance.
I'm glad that he brought this up.
So, Ethan, are you aware of the fact that we did a complete episode two hours plus?
Just let the clip play so the audience can watch and then we can talk about it.
Or to be on a fucking app.
It's called Speaking Arrangements to troll women.
Yes.
A bunch of girls have talked about it because that's his thing.
That's how he gets women to come on here.
So thank you for cementing the fact that I don't pay girls off sugar sites.
Thank you.
Then why do you have that deal?
Because I use it as a dating site and I've said it many times.
So you use the sugar daddy websites as dating sites?
Yeah, so we did a whole episode on this.
And then you complain about women being...
Shallow.
I never complained about women being shallow.
You say it's hard to find a good woman because they're interested and they're motivated by material things and stuff.
And yet you're seeking women specifically who are, I mean, would supposedly be a certain type of woman, obviously, would be on a sugar daddy website.
So it seems like you are confirming your biases by even going there to find women.
You know what I mean?
Okay, so you said a bunch of things.
Do you want me to say it again slower?
I mean, what is your specific thing that you're trying to insinuate here?
Because one, you're trying to attack me for being on a sugar site, which I was going to talk about, but that's fine.
So what is your specific critique?
Yeah, the women are this way.
You say women are materialistic.
Hypergamous?
Okay, hypergamous.
Okay.
And then, let's just start there.
Women are always trying to date up a socio in status.
Yes.
And yet, here you are seeking out these types of women to confirm your own bias.
Don't you find that ironic?
No, because here's the thing.
All women are hypergamous, okay?
Well, all women on Sugar Daddy websites are.
They're even more so with the hypergamy, okay?
So they're hyper hypergamy.
Yes.
But you seek them out.
Okay.
Because here's the thing.
When you're dating, right?
Because you know that they're interested in your money and not your personality, which is what makes you insecure.
Okay.
I love how you just jumped to that conclusion, but can I finish my point and then I can go ahead and address your ridiculous claim that you just made?
Yeah, go ahead.
So when you're dating as a man— I'm not insecure.
Okay.
We'll address that here in a second because I love when liberals like you like to claim insecurity.
Liberals?
Yeah.
Dude, you're a leftist.
Come on, man.
Let's keep it 1,000.
Anyway...
Oh, chill.
What are we doing here?
That's a whole other conversation.
But either way, when you're a guy and you're dating, you need to have multiple methodologies to meet women, right?
You mentioned before, hey, you should go meet a girl out at a house party, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, that's called, you know, going out and meeting a girl in real life.
But you want to use dating apps, you want to use social circle, you want to use the club, you want to use day game, etc.
You want to be able to meet women through different avenues, okay?
So, sugar sites, if you're smart, you treat them like a dating app.
Idiots use it to actually get sugar babies and pay.
Why would you want to seek out women like that?
On sugar sites?
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
There's a lot of women on these sugar sites, actually, that are professionals.
They make a lot of money themselves.
They're doctors, lawyers, etc.
And what they do is they use that as a dating site.
Yeah, I know.
So you're on sugar daddy sites looking for doctors?
I never said that.
I'm telling you that there's women on there, okay, that are just looking for guys that are on their level financially or they're tired of dating brokies.
See, you don't know that because you're not in the game.
Again, Ethan, your limited knowledge is why you're making the comments that you're making.
But let me tell you, you've been married for how long?
You're not aware.
And professionals of all types, professors, are on sugar daddy websites searching for their perfect sugar daddy.
Now with that said, there are a lot of women that are basically sugar babies on there and escorts.
Of course there are.
But your job as the man is to screen those girls out.
And I did this whole episode on YouTube where we covered that shit.
A to Z, how to use sugar sites to actually date and not get finessed.
Okay?
And find girls that are actually worthy of dating and not dealing with a bunch of, you know, chicks that you don't necessarily want to align with.
Now, is using a sugar site the best way to meet a chick?
I would say probably not.
The reality is most of them probably aren't going to be fit for a long-term relationship.
However, are there girls on there?
So why go there?
Are there girls on there?
Because, dude, because on dating apps, etc., most women are not worthy of a relationship.
Most aren't.
But why go there, specifically?
To widen your options.
To widen your options, bro.
To widen your options.
And here's the other thing, too, also.
You wouldn't know this, but let me also say this.
You might meet a girl.
No, I'm just using this as an analogy.
No, go ahead.
I'm not even going to go there.
You might meet a girl on Tinder, okay?
Or you might meet a girl on Bumble, or Hinge.
And maybe she doesn't meet up, or maybe she just doesn't get back to responding, whatever.
A lot of the times, you'll see that girl on a sugar site.
Happens all the time, okay?
She'll be way more responsive to you on those sites because there's implied status.
Okay?
And that's just how it is.
Your personality is not enough to get her attention.
When it comes to dating apps, your personality can't show until you meet her in person.
The whole goal is to get her on a date in the first place.
That's when you never get that second date.
And that's one of the limitations.
That's one of the limitations of online dating, which is why I tell guys you need to go out there and be in different avenues meeting women.
But with online dating, you are limited to that degree.
And status and image matters.
On your sugar daddy profile, you say you guys do one-on-one coaching?
I never said that.
It's right here.
You do one-on-one coaching.
It's on your website.
What, the consultations?
Yeah, 30 minute one-on-one.
Oh, we need to update that.
I don't do...
I've raised my prices significantly since then.
Yeah, because it's on your website and it's open for enrollment.
And your schedule is fucking wide open, bro.
Both of y'all, every hour, ain't nobody wants to talk to you guys.
5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 a.m.
Look at every day, wide open, baby.
You know what's interesting, Ethan?
I literally had to refund a guy two days ago on PayPal.
He actually commented when Candace Owens was in here.
And I had to refund them because I increased my prices and I don't do consultations like that one-on-one.
That's why it's on your website?
We're not on there like that, man.
We need to update it.
It's been a while.
I've said it several times on my podcast.
Guys, I don't do consultations like that.
I've increased my prices.
So once again, you're reaching and you failed.
It's on your website.
How's that a reach?
Again, we need to update it.
We haven't updated it.
So that's not my fault.
That's your fault.
And by the way, that calendar is looking fuller.
I corrected you.
I don't know, man.
Bro, we don't do calls hardly ever, bro.
Like, we just...
You know what's funny?
It's open because we refund people all the time.
Yeah, we just refund people, man.
Zoom calls for everybody.
We literally refunded somebody a couple days ago.
I don't do consultations like that anymore because I've increased my prices significantly.
Alright.
It ain't that serious, bro.
And I've even mentioned on the podcast a million times, hey guys, I've increased my price.
If you're going to book a console, it's more.
How much is it?
For how long?
Uh, 30 minutes.
That's what this one is, right?
I mean, well, if I... An hour, maybe?
An hour?
Well, now I change it.
It's a thousand for 20 minutes.
What the fuck are you going to tell them in 20 minutes that's worth $1,000?
That's fucking hilarious.
Life-changing.
The thing, Ethan, is it's, again, it's to protect time so that we can focus on a podcast.
Because you said we film three times per week or do three live shows.
We actually do six.
We do one during the day, one during the night.
We cover how to make money on Money Mondays.
We cover how to date on Wednesdays.
We cover call-in shows on Friday.
We talk about self-improvement, how to get in shape, how to make money, how to invest in real estate, how to get into crypto.
We cover a multitude of different things when it comes to self-improvement.
Hold on, Ethan, real quick.
Real quick.
Oh, go ahead.
Go ahead.
This happened today, actually.
Hey, man, you probably don't remember me.
We had a coaching call back in 2022.
I was in a rough spot financially, physically, etc.
Today, I'm making six figures, have a great physique, and just really out of it in my life.
The catalyst of that call was...
Get that on Fiverr?
What?
No.
He emailed him.
Coach and call.
Thanks again, Nakamuji.
The point is, bro, like, the calls...
I know you can order testimonials on Fiverr, What's your point?
No, it wasn't testimonial.
Guys, tell me this.
When you're trying to coach guys how to pick up girls, is it important to give them alcohol?
What?
What?
Well, here at the end is the clip of...
Any date idea's gonna work, guys.
It's just that the drinking one tends to have the best ROI because you're meeting her at night and it loosens her a bit, right?
So alcohol increases ROI, especially when they're underage.
And by underage, I mean under 21.
You guys give a lot of under 21 girls alcohol in your studio.
Oh, you're trying to reach here, bro.
Yeah, he's really trying to reach.
How hard, bro?
I'm Ashanti.
I'm 18 years old.
18.
Here she is drinking for Cinco de Dronte.
Cheers to Thursday with the ladies.
Yikes.
He's trying so hard right now.
Are you going to tell me there's water in her cup?
Well, here's the thing.
Save it.
We'll keep watching.
So, here's the thing.
Okay.
Girls come on.
Girls come on and they lie, bro.
Girls come on.
Girls come on and they lie about their age.
She's 18.
When I see guys that are single, I see her.
I see a lot of shit.
But when I see men that are...
Here they are, 18 Myron's liquor bottles in the middle.
They're sipping Kool-Aid, I assume, right?
Number one, we can't see your video.
Can you show us the video?
I want to see who in particular this is.
We can't see anything.
We can't see anything.
20 years old.
Oh, for real?
Yeah, we can't see your video that you're trying to play.
Okay, well it's a video of like you having girls on.
They introduced themselves.
A lot of them are saying they're 18.
This girl just said she's 20.
And then it cuts to you guys back after the show drinking with them.
So my question is, is it good to give underage girls alcohol?
Does that increase ROI? When was this video?
Can they not see it?
We can't see on our end.
What date was that?
Oh, I can tell you.
It'd be easier if we could show you though.
Is that on our side, Dan?
Are you guys pretending you can't see it or you can see it?
Yeah.
No, I can see your little penalty thing there.
You can see it now?
Yeah, we can see the video now.
Okay, cool.
Shanti, I'm 18 years old.
So Shanti's 18.
Okay, so two things to address this.
Here she is drinking at Cinco de Drunko party in the back.
So she's sipping water, right?
So there's two situations here.
Number one, some girls lie and say, I'm 21, and we didn't know that they're...
She said she's 18 in front of you.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Or, the second one, if we know that they're not 21, we put water in their cups and we do the Instagram story anyway.
Uh-huh.
How did I know that you were going to say they're drinking water?
Yes, we do that all the time.
Yes, we do that all the time.
Nice try, Ethan, again.
Nice try once again.
If we know the girls ages, we put water in their cups because it's an Instagram story.
I think it's such a great idea for you guys to pretend like they're drinking.
Miners are drinking.
I can see how that benefits you so much.
I mean, that's such a plausible explanation.
You know what would be awesome of us?
To pretend like the miners have alcohol.
So people think they have alcohol, but actually it's water.
That makes so much sense to me.
You are assuming, which is why we do an ID check.
You're right.
You caught me again.
So again, you're reaching.
I'm not inside the cup.
No, I'm not inside the cup.
You are wrong.
You've got me, I'm not inside the cup.
You're trying really hard, but you filled.
It's very easy.
And the thing is, it's also...
Just once, it's many times.
Because you tried this, and this is interesting that you actually brought this up.
Like I said before.
Yeah, I know.
You're very happy about it.
No, I am.
I am.
Because you're bringing up a lot of the criticisms that we have.
And we're knocking it out at the park every single time.
This was also 18.
When I see guys that...
Yeah?
You need to fire the people that did research for you, bro.
You really need to fire them.
Okay, well then tell me what's wrong with it.
Because I'm telling you.
We just told you.
Okay, can you mute the video so I can explain here?
So, again, we ID the girls when they come in.
We ID the girls.
We ID girls.
We ID girls.
Yes, we do.
So that it didn't look awkward.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
It's for promotion.
Also, we include everybody so they don't feel left out.
Exactly.
So, Ethan, I don't think you understand how shows work, especially how these type of shows run.
But ultimately, bro, you're wrong.
And again, we check our IDs.
It's all legal.
Yeah, man.
Can I ask you a question?
You create a fun environment, festive environment, etc.
You want to do the Instagram story, etc.
You have an 18-year-old in your studio.
You guys finish the show.
You go to the kitchen.
You pour everyone drink.
That's before the show.
Nice try, Ethan.
Okay, before the show.
It's good to get them liquored up before the show so it's easier to speak with them.
And actually we tell them, ladies, don't get drunk if you're able to drink because we will talk on the show.
We don't give them more than two drinks, bro.
Unless they come drunk on their own.
One or two drinks.
Hold on, let me just follow the logic.
So you're at this table with a girl who's 18 and you say, here, take this cup.
That looks like what you would drink.
A red cup, which is synonymous with drinking alcohol.
And I'm going to put water in it so that people watching think you're drinking alcohol with us.
It's for the story.
Yeah, it's for the story, bro.
It's water.
Okay, yeah, the story really...
I mean, hell, if you watch our podcast, you would see us with red cups and we don't drink and we're drinking water out of them.
I know you don't drink.
That's why you guys are such creeps.
You get girls around you drunk and you guys stay sober.
That's like Hallmark creep behavior.
Again.
Myron, and you think that's a good idea for 18-year-olds to have red solo cups?
So it looks like they're drinking alcohol?
You're trying so hard, dude.
It's water.
I know you guys are saying it's water, but why would you want to even make it seem like you're drinking with them?
Bro, they don't want to be left out.
Hey, can I get a cup too so I can do chairs?
Bro, what's wrong with you?
They want to be part of the party.
That's not even close to worth the perception that you're drinking with minors.
Just don't give them a fucking cup.
Only weirdos that you think, oh, a cup of alcohol, they must be bad.
I'm the only person who thinks there's alcohol in a red cup?
No, no, it's not about that.
It's that it's water, dude.
I mean, hell, I even have a red cup when I'm sitting here at the table sometimes.
It's water.
A lot of the times, and here's the other thing too, because people always have this idea.
What about on Cinco de Drunk Day?
They weren't drinking, bro.
That girl in particular was not drinking.
Maybe the other girls were, but that girl wasn't.
She was sober the whole show.
If she was really drinking alcohol, watch that episode.
Oh, no, wait.
You don't watch the episode.
Why was she sober as fuck, man?
Yo, bro.
Like, Ethan, like, literally the proof is in the pudding.
Watch the episode, and you can see she's not slurring her words.
She's not fucking stuttering.
She's sober as a whistle because she didn't drink.
Sober as a gopher.
Yes.
Once again, another L on your part.
You've been trying so hard.
She's sober, dude.
Watch the full episode.
I'm taking fat Ls.
She's sober.
I like to hang out with my younger fans, and I give them red cups that are traditionally used for drinking alcohol out of them, and then make it look like I'm drinking with minors just so they don't feel left out.
That's what you said, which is insane.
That's a reach.
That's a big reach.
Are you telling me that you never drank alcohol when you were underage, Ethan?
When you were in college, you didn't drink alcohol?
When you went to Israel, you didn't drink alcohol?
When you were young?
Is that a confession?
I think you just confessed.
Well, it's not my responsibility.
It's not the minor's responsibility.
I mean, you're 30-fucking-4.
Drinking with 18-year-olds is just pathetic.
We don't drink.
They didn't drink, bro.
Again, you guys don't drink.
It makes it even weirder.
It makes it even weirder.
It makes it so weird.
Ethan, Ethan, let me explain to you.
The underage girls drink water, and then the girls that are of age, they want to drink when they show up.
Got it, got it.
They drink water out of a red cup.
No, no, I'm talking about the...
So they feel included.
Yeah, they drink water.
We want them to feel special.
And then the girls that are older, that want a drink, because a lot of girls come, and they're nervous.
A lot of girls come, and they're nervous, and they're like, can I have a drink?
And we'll give it to them.
We'll give them one or two, at the most, because we don't want them getting fucked up, and they're of age.
What's the problem with that?
If they say, can I have a drink?
I see lots of drunk girls in your studio, man.
They get drunk before they come here.
Who do you see, bro?
Tell us.
You say you gave them two sh- Okay, whatever.
Let's continue.
No, no, no, no.
Ethan, let's get on this road.
Who do you see that's drunk on the show?
Please tell us.
I've seen videos of girls, they're drunk on the show, they're drunk on the couch in the back, etc.
And they got drunk before they came here.
Okay.
We don't give them more than two to three at the absolute most.
So here they are cheering.
Here's a 20-year-old girl.
I mean, the other ones were 18, 20.
Hello.
She's 20.
Oh, I'm 20.
Okay.
It's under 21.
All right, cheers.
You're on the two under 21 girls with lots of water slits through bottles here drinking out of a red cup, which is filled with water.
It's water now.
Because we don't want them to feel left out.
We ID the girls.
And if they're not 21, they can't drink.
We don't want them to.
We're so considerate of their feelings before the show.
Actually, we give a lot of preparation for the girls.
30 minutes, actually, back and forth before the show starts.
Ethan, are you like...
Here's the thing, Ethan.
When girls come into the studio, right?
It's a big podcast.
They're nervous.
They're not sure.
So, like, we obviously have to create a certain aura so that they can feel comfortable.
Now, some girls want to drink.
The girls that are underage, we don't give it to them.
But we have our producer here.
He's talking with them.
We have girls that work for us.
They talk with them.
They chat with them for a bit.
We put some music on.
You got to create a little aura for the girls that feel comfortable.
Then we do the podcast.
It takes about 45 minutes or so.
The red cup with water is the crown jewel of comforting Well, that's for the underage girl.
The majority of girls that come on our podcast are 21 and above.
Sometimes it's cranberry juice, sometimes orange juice, but the reality is the majority of girls that come on the show are over 21.
You asked me if I had ever drank underage.
Yes, I have.
Okay.
Yeah.
Ethan, uh...
I didn't do it, but, like, if adults were offering me alcohol, do you think that that's, like, you know what I mean?
That's weird.
No, because you're trying to virtue signal right now as if, like, underage drinking is the worst thing ever, but you participated in yourself.
As an underage...
And we didn't even provide alcohol to these underage kids that you're talking about.
As a minor, I participated.
As an adult, it's a different story.
Oh, okay, sure.
But as a minor, I participated with other minors.
You've never provided alcohol to someone that wasn't 21.
Okay, man.
You didn't give a beer to someone that was under 21.
Okay, man.
Sure, we believe that.
Just like you believe us with the water, right?
Okay.
Sure.
And all cases of drinking are the same, not like going to a date.
Yeah, okay.
I think you guys wrapped it up here pretty good.
So let me ask you this.
How do you guys feel about this interview?
It was great because you literally brought up all the points that people like to criticize us on and we were able to debunk them with 40-50,000 people watching live.
We got, what, 40k on our, almost 40k on our end watching.
I don't know how many you have on your end watching.
But yeah, I mean, you made a bunch of claims and accusations and they're just simply not true.
You know, it almost like has a sense of Andrew Schultz's podcast.
Andrew Schultz.
Tried to get a gotcha and it failed.
Try to call us anti-Semitic.
Not true.
Try to ask us about Andrew Tate and say that he's a trafficker.
Can't substantiate your claims.
Try to say...
I thought we were having a debate here to debate certain topics that we talk about all the time.
Try to say that we're single or say that we hide our girlfriends.
I'm the only one who's a girlfriend.
Monogamous!
And now we're monogamous losers.
Okay, I guess we're monogamous losers.
Let me just ask you one last time.
How many Jews died in the Holocaust, you two?
You told us already, bro.
You told us what it was.
You tried to criticize me for watching alternative documentaries.
So to recap the interview, we give minors red cups full of water so they don't feel left out for our Insta stories.
And Jews.
And Jews.
Don't forget that.
We love the documentary Europa, which is about neo-Nazi conspiracies.
We said it was based.
And you said it's based.
Nowhere did we say we love it.
Okay, based.
Right.
Thank you for that very important difference.
That is a big difference, because if we're saying it's based, that means it doesn't align with mainstream media narratives.
At all.
Okay, good.
Thank you.
Words matter, Ethan.
We all know what base means.
So you say Europa, which is probably one of the most anti-Semitic films ever created, is based.
Wait, how do you know it's anti-Semitic?
Did you watch it?
We touched on that, let's see, once girls post revealing pictures online, it's over, unless they're our girlfriend.
Then we can move on.
When you're in a committed relationship with the girl.
You forgot to mention that part.
She's posting pictures like that?
Bro.
It's a wrap, man, for you.
It's a wrap, bro.
It's a wrap.
Ethan, you play soundbites.
I think you don't understand.
We can play soundbites of you saying you love Hitler earlier.
Yeah, we can.
We can do that, too.
Oh, yeah.
And you saying the N-word.
Yeah.
We can do that, too, and make you look crazy.
We don't do that.
You called us the N-word, bro, Ethan.
I remember that.
You remember that?
Okay.
All right.
I remember that.
Are you like a false accuser?
Are you doing my false accusation?
I'm assuming...
Mine are based on evidence that I show you.
No, no, I'm assuming when you said that word, you made us.
I'm assuming.
From what I heard.
Okay.
Isn't that what you do?
And then again, it's funny because you played that clip, but you haven't played it again.
I said when you're in a committed relationship with a girl and she has pictures of herself half naked on the internet, that's different.
Do we have the...
So that's very important because when she's with you and she does that, that's a problem.
But then once she gets into a relationship with you and she takes all that shit down or whatever...
I think it's funny.
It's a wrap.
It's not really an expose.
There's nothing necessarily wrong with that.
I just think it's funny.
This is your dating profile for the Sugar Daddy one.
Oh, now you're showing this.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
I can't see the screen, though.
Say what?
I can't see the screen.
Okay, now I can see it.
Social media influencers and content creators.
I run a popular podcast in Miami.
I bet Ivanka Soto you can't guess my ethnic background too.
I own a high-ticket coaching business that nobody's booking.
Anyway, that's just my opinion.
Who knows?
And I'm realizing that Notorious B.I.G.'s song Mo' Money, Mo' Problems is disappointingly true.
Ethan, nice try.
I'm hoping you don't add to that disappointment.
Are you having Mo' Money, Mo' Problems?
Yep.
Damn.
I have more money than you.
I'd be happy to go over this bio with you because, just so you know, this bio has been copied by thousands of people.
Okay?
Just so you know.
And I can explain to you why I use the certain phrases that I use in here.
I'm so cocky, but here are some of my numbers.
Only 4% of male population is over 6'2".
3% of males make over 300,000.
Only 5% of men are in shape with abs.
And only most other men have a personality that actually makes them desirable to women.
I have to invest in these other three so that we don't have to think about that.
You lucked out.
I have all three in one package, so yeah.
Yes, girl.
Zesty snap.
I'm picky for a reason.
Beauty and women is common, but high-value men are not.
Be prepared to compete.
So, Ethan, here's the thing.
When you write profiles, you'd be surprised.
When a woman finds you attractive, she actually does read your profile.
They spend a lot of time reading it.
And the way you phrase things...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
It's just cringy.
No, you can say it's cringy, but there's a reason why thousands of men have copied it, and I get messages from girls all the time saying, yo, this is literally your profile.
Okay?
They'll use my pictures, and they'll use that same exact verbiage.
Now, here's the thing.
I'm using a bunch of things here.
I'm using cocky funny...
I'm using crazy arrogance.
Now here's the thing.
Women will sit there and say, I don't like assholes.
I don't like cocky guys.
But guess what?
What they're aroused by versus what they're attracted to are two different things.
Women love assholes like me.
And the other thing too is you need to let women know that you're better than them.
Okay, and I know that sounds like a foreign concept to you, but women date up.
Unmarried.
Okay, so women date up, right?
Women want a man that's better than them.
You need to exemplify that.
Now, on a site like, and here's the thing, you gotta use different game on different sites.
I would never have a profile like that on Tinder or on Bumble, but on Seeking, you need to have a profile like that because you're dealing with some of the bougiest of bougie women.
So you need to fight fire with fire in that situation.
Bougie women?
You think bougie women read that and respond?
That's funny.
You'd be surprised.
They actually do.
And here's the other thing, too.
Here's the other thing, too.
Be prepared to compete.
I've seen it firsthand.
He ain't lying to you, bro.
I get hundreds of messages.
I've shown my sticky profile before with people talk shit, and I've literally shown my SA profile.
You don't know how to enter a respectful, you don't know how to enter a relationship that is meaningful and strong enough that it would be turned into a fruitful marriage.
You do not, you lack that potential and I think that's sad.
How do you know that?
I hope that you guys pursue with your girlfriends who are lovely ladies.
Let me ask you something, Ethan.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
You're saying that we don't know how...
Wouldn't it be fair to say that if I've hooked up with a bunch of girls and I've dealt with a bunch of women, I'm probably going to be a good assessor of a good versus a bad woman due to my experience?
Wouldn't that be fair to say?
If it's true, you should have found your wife by now.
Ethan.
Ethan.
Oh my god, bro.
Oh god.
You just don't get it, man.
You just don't get it.
We can't change it.
This married guy doesn't understand dating at all.
No, you don't.
Because when we asked you earlier, trick question, by the way, when we asked you earlier, you didn't give any real way for men to meet women in the modern day world.
That's not my business.
I don't give a fuck.
Okay.
So then you are not equipped to have this conversation with us and to try to debate our tactics when they clearly work.
Unfortunately for you, it's not that deep.
It's not a PSD. When you're losing, now it's not that deep.
Now it's not that deep when I'm explaining it to you, the nuances and how that's important when it comes to attracting women and the platform that you're on dictates.
Only 5% of men are in shape with abs.
The platform that you're on dictates how you deal with the women.
When you're on a site like that, when you're dealing with women that are some of the most attractive, by the way, that are dealing with multi-millionaires, multi-billionaires, etc., you have to be hyper-competitive and also let girls know that, yo, beauty is common for me.
You're just a regular chick.
It is what it is.
You have to almost knock these girls off their bitch pedestal.
But you wouldn't know that because you haven't dated in 2024 and you're not dealing with modern-day women.
Okay, so you are not equipped to give men dating advice in today's day and age.
As a healthily married man with a family, I'm not in a position.
If you became single tomorrow, you would have no fucking clue on how to navigate the modern day dating marketplace.
If you've got a divorce tomorrow, what would you do to my girlfriend?
Ethan, if you've got a divorce, what would you do?
Go knock on your mom's door.
No, good one.
Not even a little legit.
We're just being silly now.
We're just being silly.
No, we're not even going to go with the ad hominems because that's all you've done.
You didn't get anything.
That's all you've done is just take ad hominem attacks.
But all jokes aside, Ethan, how would you...
Ethan, Ethan.
Since you want to go ahead and criticize my SA profile and how I deal with women, etc.
Right?
And say that I have an 8 body count.
Your sexual assault profile?
Why would you want to advertise that?
My sexual assault profile?
You've denied it.
My sexual assault profile?
Okay.
Anyway.
You said SA profile.
I mean, Jesus, man.
Seeking Arrangement is what it stands for.
Oh, okay.
I got the two mixed up.
I was so used to thinking about the other one.
Yeah, assuming, like you've done before and you got debunked.
The whole show, by the way.
So, yeah, Ethan, that's a valid question.
How would you go about...
What would you do if you got divorced tomorrow?
Let's say your girl decided to work out and find a chat better than you.
What are you going to do?
If I got divorced tomorrow, I would go out onto the marketplace and I would fucking...
I would talk about how rich I am and how successful, and I would fuck so many bitches, dude.
Alright, it's that easy.
How would you go about it, specifically?
Listen, this girl on the left is 18.
She's drinking out of a red cup.
The girl next to her is drinking out of a water bottle.
Oh, I like that deflection.
If she's drinking water out of a bottle, why is the 18-year-old girl not drinking water?
Why is she drinking out of a red cup?
She brought her own bottle.
Ta-da!
She brought her own bottle, man.
Congrats to you, buddy.
You want them to share the bottle, dude?
All right.
There's water in those cups.
That's what everyone believes.
Yo, bro.
They don't know each other.
You're trying so hard to reach.
You're trying so hard, man.
I say, bro.
Hey, hey, hey, coconuts.
Creepy, bro.
Is this what it's like when you go to McDonald's?
What would you want to order today?
You tell me, buddy.
You tell me.
Ethan, how much does it cost?
You need a fire-yard assistance.
They had all this time, and that's the best meme they could come with?
That's funny.
I thought they would have come up with me holding dynamite or something.
Goddamn, bro, that was trash.
You're holding dynamite.
That's not funny at all.
It is funny.
Yeah, that was from the subreddit.
Thank you to them.
Yeah, that's pretty funny.
So how would you go about if you were single, bro?
I'm asking.
This is our question.
If you got divorced tomorrow, what would you do?
I don't care.
Now you don't care It's interesting how whenever we ask you a question, we're about to get into a real debate.
It doesn't matter who cares.
It's like a weird hypothetical thing.
I don't know.
Oh, weird hypothetical.
Like when you asked me earlier, oh, what if Andrew was actually a rapist?
Like, what would you do?
I'm asking your opinion on like a concrete specific video I showed you.
So it's a weird hypothetical when I ask.
It's a weird hypothetical when I ask.
You guys fantasize about my divorce a lot more than y'all think about your own fucking girlfriends.
It happens all the time, my friend.
Bro, things happen, bro.
If you get divorced, it's serious.
It's actually very probable.
Okay, I get divorced.
What do I do?
Yeah, I mean, just ask, man.
What do I do?
Okay, let's see.
Well, if I talk to a lawyer, I get a mediator, probably, so that we can part ways amicably.
We talk about it a lot.
We go through a lot.
There's a lot to talk about.
There's a lot to split up.
Maybe we'll get some couples therapy.
So you're going to try to negotiate a desire?
We want to do healthy co-parenting because we love our boys more than anything in the world.
And then I'll probably get lunch.
Would you try to negotiate a desire?
I'll go to McDonald's and I'll sell them.
You tell me what to get.
Would you try to negotiate a desire?
Is that what it would be for?
Sorry, say again?
Would you try to negotiate a desire?
Is that why you do the therapy?
Negotiate what?
Desire.
Negotiate desire?
Yeah, because that's typically what therapy is designed to do.
Oh, you guys are doing one of your weird red-pilled terminologies?
I mean, it's English, bro.
How do you negotiate desire?
I mean, if you're meeting at a predetermined location to meet with a therapist to discuss your relationship, and you go over problems, and like, hey, well, I don't like when you do this, and I don't like when you do this.
Okay, well, if you do this, then you go ahead.
Because that's what therapy ends up being a lot of the times, is you take out the trash and you give him sex, blah, blah.
It's a negotiated desire.
We're already divorced.
Okay, so that's what I'm asking.
Like, you're trying to go to therapy.
What's the point of going to therapy if you guys are divorced?
Because we have three boys that we love, and we want to...
That can be handled in the court system.
Okay, you can do that through the court system.
No, I want to go to a therapist.
Oh, you want to go to...
Why don't you want to go through the court system?
I prefer to talk to a professional with a degree.
A judge of professional?
With a degree?
Yeah.
Well, actually, with a big degree.
They're JD. They're a lawyer.
They got a better degree than a therapist.
So your claim, you said classes?
What did you say?
Because you said you'd rather go to therapy.
And I'm like, why go to therapy if you guys are divorced?
Let's just let the core system handle it, right?
Right.
Yes.
Alright, listen.
Coconuts.
My boy.
Ethan, do you really want to debate, man?
Because this doesn't seem like a debate to me.
It's three and a half hours.
You guys are just milking it because you have high viewership and you usually don't get this many views.
We actually do get this many views every night.
We actually do get more.
How many live views do you get?
You're forgetting Rumble, bro.
Yeah, we split the audience.
Right now, between Rumble and YouTube, we got 34,000 watching.
And that's us splitting the audience.
How much on YouTube?
How much on Rumble?
We got 17,000 on YouTube and another 17K on Rumble.
How much you get, buddy?
Normally.
45,000.
That's great, bro.
Thank you.
If we didn't split our audience, we'd be right around there too.
Probably more.
And you've got triple R subscribers.
And we're shadowbanned.
And we're shadowbanned.
There's a connection.
And we're shadowbanned.
I think there's something special.
You've got a face that I like, and I think you're a sweet guy.
But you guys have gotten pretty boring.
Now we're boring.
No, you're boring, bro.
Now that we're actually having real discussions, now it's like, oh, this is boring.
Mike, guys, your clips aren't working anymore.
I don't know how anyone watches this podcast, bro.
It's just so boring.
I agree.
That's why I'm hanging up on you morons.
Okay, buddy.
More ad hominem attacks.
Good in debate.
Yes.
My piglet.
No debate.
Just ad hominems.
My piglet.
Do you still want to have that discussion in person?
Ethan, I'd be happy to have an actual debate in person if you want.
Hold on, hold on.
Walter, you call me Piglet?
No, that's coconuts.
That wasn't me.
That's coconuts.
Oh, okay.
So, coconuts, you called me...
Well, hold on.
Didn't you congratulate me on my weight loss?
Why would you go after my weight?
Oh, because you're still fat, buddy.
That hurts my feelings.
You're still bigger, buddy.
You're still bigger, buddy.
Hey, you know what?
This will work.
Hold on, hold on.
You'll get there.
Ethan, Ethan, all jokes aside.
Let me see your abs, coconuts.
Let me see those washboard abs.
Ethan, all jokes aside.
You look a little thick there, bucko.
Okay, that's fine.
Oh, it's a hoodie.
Ethan, Ethan, all jokes aside.
You've been munching a little too many coconuts.
Those have a lot of calories.
I know you know how to do that.
Okay, look, Ethan, all jokes aside.
How about we have a debate in person, man?
How about we have a debate in person?
Hey, Myron, can you quiet down?
We're trying to talk to Walter.
Look, so you guys don't want to have a debate in person.
I want to talk to Walter, who I find much more interesting.
Walter, we should do a mukbang.
I think it would be fun.
Two guys just eating and shooting the shit.
Would you?
No, I'm good, bro.
What?
I'm good.
Come on.
You know what you should do, bro?
You should focus on staying married.
Because obviously, bro...
I am.
I am.
Thank you for the advice.
That should be your main life goal.
You know what's interesting to me, Ethan?
I take my marriage very seriously.
Thank you for that.
I'm going to be honest here, Ethan.
I genuinely thought we would have a good discussion.
I don't know why you thought that, dummy!
You just embarrassed yourself.
You showed that you are not capable of critical thought and discussion.
You didn't want to have the discussion in person, that should tell you enough.
You didn't want to have a real debate, you want to have ad hominems, you didn't debate any points, you just attacked us personally the whole time, which I knew would happen.
But you've just shown improvement to everyone that you are not a debater.
Hold on, my 18-year-old friends are here.
Hold on.
You're not capable of critical thought.
You're not capable of debating.
My 18-year-old friends are here.
And this is why the A3 podcast has fallen off significantly.
Just put water in it for social media.
Because you guys used to be based.
Now you guys are appealing to your liberal audience.
Which is why you guys have been losing 10,000 subscribers a day.
Just put water in it for social media.
You're falling off, bro.
There's a reason why you're called Ethan D. Klein, dude.
And this is why.
Like, you make the joke, Ethan, decline.
It is true.
You have been losing subscribers for a reason, my friend.
You've sold out.
Everyone knows you've sold out.
You're not capable of having a rational debate like I tried to have with you.
My mistake was holding you to a higher standard, to be honest here.
That's really my mistake.
But that's fine.
You just embarrass yourself in front of, what, 50, 70,000 people live?
That you're not able to have a coherent, articulate discussion with another adult?
Hell, you didn't even want to do it in person, which tells me the type of man that you are.
Yeah.
It is what it is.
How many people died in the Holocaust, Myron?
You tell me, man.
Hey, you should be fired, bro.
You're such a good...
You did a bad job, bro.
You tried to paint us as anti-Semites, you failed.
You tried to say we're racist, you failed.
You tried to say that we're sexual assaultists, you failed.
No, no, not that.
Look at the chat.
What chat?
I can't see what you're showing.
Is he showing something on screen?
We can't see anything if you're showing it on screen, dude.
We just hear some music.
It's going softly.
Go on, guys.
Tell me more about me.
This is your last chance.
Nah, man.
I think this is L for you, bro.
Yeah, hold L. You just proved once again.
See, you did this with Steven Crowder, too.
You couldn't debate him either.
You couldn't debate him.
As everybody knows, I got owned by Stephen Crowder.
Yeah, you're a hypocrite.
You say, oh, you brought Charleston White on, but you brought a known scammer on that scanned millions upon millions of dollars.
You call me an anti-Semite, but you made anti-Semitic jokes about Ben Shapiro.
Then you claim and say, oh, well, you can't say I'm anti-Semitic because I'm Jewish.
Well, by that logic, I'm Arab.
I'm a semi too.
I can't be anti-Semitic either.
See, your logic is fucked up.
That's the dumbest thing.
Bro, that has nothing to do with Jewish people.
I'm a semi just like, I'm a semi too.
It just means Jewish people, it's colloquial.
No, no, no, no.
It means anyone from that part of the world, which Arabs count too.
Yeah, but there's different...
See, Ethan, you're not a smart guy.
That's the problem.
You can hate Jews and I hate Arabs, right?
You're not a smart guy, Ethan.
That's the problem here.
You're just not an intelligent guy.
I thought you were smarter, bro.
You're right.
All Semites are the same.
And if you hate Jews, then you also hate Arabs by definition.
Super wise.
No, no.
By your logic, you're saying that I'm anti-Semitic.
And then I was like, well, you made anti-Semitic comments.
And they're like, no, it doesn't count because I'm Jewish too.
And I'm like, well, by that logic, then I'm not, I can't be anti-Semitic either because I'm Arab.
I can't see it.
And you guys blocked our screen sharing because you guys were scared of what we would show.
Which we knew you guys would do that too.
I can't see it.
How many kinetic sands are on the screen?
We're trying to drown you guys out with kinetic sand.
Hold on.
Because you can't debate.
Ethan, you're just making yourself look bad here, dude.
You can't have an intellectual debate.
You took an L on every single talking point.
You tried and you failed.
There's a reason why they call you guys L3. And I didn't make one ad hominem attack on you.
All I simply did was point to facts and the truth.
I didn't insult you one time.
Thank you very much, Myron, for your respect.
I appreciate that.
Hey, I tried, man.
I tried.
Hey, again, happy to have a debate with you in person anytime you want, my friend.
All right, dude.
I'm going to fuck you up if I see you in person, buddy.
I'm going to fight you.
I mean, if you want to put some boxing gloves on, we can have a nice match of Spartan.
That would be good, actually.
You want to do that, Ethan?
I'm going to intimidate you physically when I see you.
I mean, I never took it there.
I never said anything about fighting.
But if you want to put on some boxing gloves, we can box if you want.
Sounds good to us.
Do you want to box?
Do you want to box?
You want to stand on it?
No?
Okay.
Alright.
I assume that.
I think it's the same exact reason why you didn't want to have this conversation in person.
Alright.
Which I'm not surprised.
Just drop it.
Nah.
Nah.
You're just showing your immaturity level, my friend.
Just making yourself look bad, which is hilarious.
You are showing up and they threw us out.
All right.
Awesome, guys.
Yo.
Guys.
That was fucking awesome.
I mean, they tried so hard to pin us on these specific topics and it's funny because we were prepared.
Yeah, we knew what they were going to do, man.
It's fucking hilarious, man.
This is Andrew Schultz part two, bro.
100%.
Yeah, well, even worse.
Yeah.
Even worse faith.
And, you know, it's interesting because Ethan says he wants to have these debates, etc.
And then he does these juvenile, childlike things.
And it's just like...
Congratulations.
You made yourself look like an idiot.
Once again.
During that whole show, you know what he was doing?
Clip farming.
Oh yeah, of course he was.
That's all he was doing.
Yeah.
And that's why I'm glad that we had the debate on our side, full, uninterrupted, so you guys can see, this is what he does.
Takes a clip, spins it out of context, tries to make something sound that isn't true, and...
That's what he does.
That's what H3 has done for years.
And this is why they've been declining so hard.
That's why they lost 10,000 subscribers on that day, which actually just pulled it up on screen real quick after that podcast.
This is why they've been losing subscribers and they're buying subscribers.
This is why they've just fallen out of grace and they've fallen off.
Significantly.
And everybody knows it.
I'll tell you this, bro.
On that day in particular, right?
Can you show up, Mo?
Highlight it?
He didn't prove any points.
Oh, that's on that highlight.
Yeah, 10,000 gone.
That day.
But, Chad, you can see what he does.
He assumes everything on his own biases and then says, oh, this is the facts.
Bro, you know who does that?
That's what women do.
They legit assume from what they hear, oh, this must be it based off my belief.
But listen, man, before you assume anyone's doing something, get all the facts, man.
Because Ethan, that's all he does, bro.
He assumes from his standpoint, oh, you must be a trafficker.
You must be a rapist.
Bro, come on, dude.
And the bad part is, bro, even if he was in a position where he was accused of doing these things, we would say, you know what?
As many of you understand what's happening, we got you, bro.
We're going to get the facts first before we accuse you of being a grapist or trafficker.
But in this case, bro, it's like a major L. I'll be honest here, man.
I can't believe he tried to do that to us online because he looks crazy.
And I trust and believe, bro, he's saying to himself, damn, I'll take a major L. But once again...
The funniest part is we try to say the Jewish hats if I don't have a bunch of other hats over here.
Bro, he tried so hard with the cups.
The girl...
Bro.
The girlfriends, bro.
That was funny too, man.
Yo, you know what he did?
He saw somebody's post and said, oh, let me put it on them.
Yeah.
Out of context.
Body count at 8 and 15, bro.
Yeah, 8 and 15?
Hey, man, I'll take it.
I'll take it too.
I'm going to start saying that to the girls at 8.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It'd be better if I say 8.
It'd be better...
Hey, I'll tell you this, though, bro.
He took a major L. Yo, chat niggas, you know what's up, man.
That was bad, bro.
That 8 and 15 was the funniest assumption.
Yeah.
Bro, terrible.
He said they were monogamous.
Yeah, I said they were monogamous.
That was funny.
Bro, I thought they were monogamous.
Bills AM, bro.
Bills AM. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you, bro.
Facts, facts, facts.
Let me try that spoils me.
All right.
Fuck going on with you, bro.
And also, the smart ones know.
He tried to bait us into getting into a certain topic.
Yeah, 100%.
You know what I mean?
I'm glad you didn't go there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
He tried to bait us there.
The smart people know what they were trying to do.
That was such a low move.
Oh yeah, of course.
I knew he was going to try that.
So I was just like, you know what, bro?
Whatever.
It is what it is.
But yeah, I knew that they were going to try that shit.
Don't worry.
I told him back a hell of a time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Told his ass.
It actually tells you the topic.
I mean, I'd be happy to have that debate, but we're going to do it on Rumble, if anything.
Yeah.
And we're not going to have that on YouTube.
Like, come on, man.
We know what time it is on YouTube.
You can't have certain conversations on there.
Yeah.
That's why he did that, guys.
He brought up Angie and Daisy, bro.
It's like, dude, you don't understand game at all or how things work, but you want to get on us.
And it's funny because we break down how we move.
We take all the content and say, oh, you're doing this.
Hypocrites.
Man.
Again, guys, he didn't want to actually debate.
He just wanted to try to clip farm, which is fine.
They could do what they want, but if anything, I think that just made himself look crazy, man.
We got some chats here?
Yes, we do.
Yeah, let's read some chats, and then we got after hours here in a bit.
Is Chris here?
No.
Okay.
I can't stand how these lame liberal dudes talk, bro, all the press and type, and what's hilarious is that all that little group of them talk the exact same.
Yeah, it is what it is, man.
So, yeah, guys.
They wanted to try to clip-form that, so that's why we didn't even do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were trying so hard.
Oh, my God, bro.
So, LH3 said how far you guys have fallen compared to where you guys used to be.
Yeah?
Ethan's producer, can you put the camera on Ethan every time he talks, please?
I want to see the shaky-ass body language.
Yeah.
And here's the thing, too.
Let me show you how much of cowards these dudes are, man.
Let's see.
I'll show you how the DMs, because I actually said...
Let's fucking do this shit in person, and they didn't want to do it for obvious reasons.
Yeah, of course.
I see why.
They couldn't go all out.
Yeah, yeah.
And they wanted to leave the Zoom early.
Oh, of course.
We got too heated.
Oh, yeah.
We were chilling, bro.
We were chilling, just relaxing.
We got emotional.
No, we didn't.
He was shaking, bro.
He was trembling.
Dude, he was so off, bro.
He was trembling.
Like, literally off of so many topics.
Yeah.
It was sad.
All of a sudden...
Biggest L he ever took, bro.
All of a sudden, it's boring when you got him on the ropes.
So let me show y'all, just so that you guys can see the snakiness, which is cool.
Okay, so he's showing you guys the message between him and H3. That's camera one.
You want camera four?
Oh, yeah.
Go four.
There we go.
Perfect.
There we go.
Hey, Myron, messaging here to see if we can schedule the debate.
We would like to do it via Zoom, if you're comfortable with that.
There will be zero funny business from us, and I want to emphasize that we can do whatever you guys need to make it comfortable for you on Zoom.
Please let me know.
We would still really like to do this with a Wednesday in March work.
Myron says, why not a person?
He says, we'll typically do all the debates via Zoom so that if things get awkward, everybody has an easy out.
So we decided that we would be the best venue for the conversation.
Please let me know if this works for you.
We can accommodate you guys anytime.
Well, day and time, yada, yada.
But basically, the guys, they don't want to do it in person.
Bro, they still never...
And they said zero funny business.
Guys, guys, guys, guys.
And for sight, they said zero funny business.
But what did they do?
All funny business.
And they disabled screen sharing right away.
We pointed it out.
Because we were able to screen share it at first and then they took it off.
Zoom makes it very easy.
All you have to do is just toggle re-enable screen share.
They never did it, bro.
Yeah, they never did it, bro.
For obvious reasons.
So if you watch our stream, you'll see the stuff.
But if you watch their stream, you won't see it, guys.
Actually, also, in our stream, you will see that they kept the screen share disabled.
They never put it back on.
So there you guys go, man.
I mean, dishonest, lying.
Again, all we proved during the course of that podcast is that these guys don't debate.
They're not critical thinkers.
They can't have an articulate adult conversation.
And Ethan Klein showed why he's one of the most hated YouTubers, you know, creators in this space.
Because no one respects him.
He doesn't respect himself.
And he makes a bunch of false accusations, etc.
And yeah, I mean, it went exactly as I thought it would.
I mean, he got cooked.
He literally got cooked.
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Yeah.
But yeah, no, that was a good discussion, man.
Yeah, it was.
You know, it was like, in my head, I was like, every time you brought something up, I was like, oh, you about to get cooked, Ethan.
You about to get it.
You about to get it, man.
Why are you trying this, bro?
You're trying to reward people because we're going to fight you on it.
The white one was hilarious.
You're his friend.
Yeah.
No, we're not.
No, we're not, bro.
We're close.
Like, honestly, we shouldn't even have defended it, but hey, it is what it is, man.
I mean, you didn't, I didn't defend the shit, nigga.
Yeah, but...
Fuck that nigga.
But he took it out of context.
Yeah, he did, he did, he did.
It wasn't even his worst two live crew.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's two live crew shit.
Reaching, but reaching.
He was reaching for real.
Red Pill saying, great debate, Myron.
You kept it professional while the triple chin soy boy got emotional.
Wish you guys attacked him personally just how he attacked y'all.
He is fat, takes medicine for happiness, and his wife is a dumb soldier, and his fans turn on him.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, bro.
I mean, there's a reason why their chat, guys, is members only.
I mean, here's the thing.
I didn't want to get into the whole...
You know, hit the cue sound effect.
Because we're on YouTube, guys.
You know what I mean?
Let's just keep it a thousand.
So it is what it is.
And they were trying to clip farm that to make us look crazy, just so y'all know.
Like, I knew they were going to do that.
Like, I knew they were going to bring that up and try to paint us in that light.
And they're wrong.
Like, you know, like, no one talks about that.
Like, it's true.
After we had Nick on, we literally had Dave Rubin on.
Who is completely the other side.
No one gives a shit about that.
Yeah, they don't care.
Speaking of which, by the way, we're going to have Laura Loomer on with some chicks on Friday.
It's going to be fucking litty.
She's going to debate some OF chicks.
You know, she's lying to us too.
But that doesn't mean just because I disagree with someone that I'm going to be like, oh, fuck you.
I'm not going to talk to you.
I think it's important to have all perspectives.
Right?
You don't have to agree with someone to respect them.
But he doesn't understand that, obviously.
At all.
But they never mention that.
Oh, no, we're anti-Semites, so we're anti-Semites.
Also, special announcement.
We're going to have on Monday, Rumble CEO, finally in studio, Chris from Rumble.
So, it's coming Monday.
We're going to talk.
That'd be free speech.
Free speech, Rumble itself, how we can improve.
Come with some good questions for Chris on the platform.
Yeah.
All right.
On my way to the gym, appreciate the show and y'all's time to make it happen, both platforms, but I gotta go.
No, no, go lift, bro.
Shout out to you, bro.
Yeah.
WFNFWT, diversified vibes.
Absolutely, man.
All right.
I genuinely feel sorry for all of Ethan's subscribers.
Imagine consuming anything this guy has to say.
Yeah, I don't know how people watch them, bro.
Bro.
Holy.
He is boring, bro.
Yeah, he is boring.
I'll give him this.
He didn't lose some weight, but he's still a piglet, though.
Yeah, but...
Piggy!
This nigga, Ethan, is unprepared as fuck.
Yeah, bro, he was unprepared as hell, bro.
He needs a fire's assistant, bro.
I promise you, bro, he did zero research, if any at all.
Oh, yeah, they didn't do shit.
Terrible.
Ewelt goes, no, don't answer this first question.
He is trying to get information on what people will accept because they have AI tech and they are working on framing the Tates.
Okay.
I'm a bit confused.
I was wondering if you could help out.
Could you please let us know why the person is on the show?
I'm just curious if you haven't explained because I thought the show focused on integrity and I wondered how the disingenuous person fits into that.
Eh, it is what it is, bro.
They were clip farming.
I'll say this, man.
When it comes to podcasting, guys, even as any podcaster in the world, Guests you bring on your show can have issues.
You don't always see it right away.
Yeah.
But, again, he tried to put it on us, but guess what?
We put it back on him.
Leverking.
Yeah.
But that's his friend, though.
Yeah.
That's his friend.
So, you're trying hard, bro, but it's not working.
Yeah.
But yeah, we bring all kinds of guests on, man.
That's what's just one of them boys.
That's that cringe, disingenuous, and deceptive.
Just imagine a nation full of...
I hope the audience sees why early lifters like Ethan got kicked off 89 podcasts 109 times.
Oh, I see what you did there, sir.
What else?
I guess parents that give their child Martinelli sparkling cider to be a part of the New Year celebration need to be reported.
Ethan is a dumbass.
Yeah.
Trying hard, bro.
Yeah, he was just reaching guys.
I mean, when you're like that, right, and you're a guy like him, and you're trying to get farm clips and shit like that, you're going to say wild stuff to try to get a rise out of us or whatever, and he couldn't get it, which is why he tried to say, yeah, this is why you're subservient to me, blah, blah, blah, and then I hit him with that, well, we kind of wanted to do this interview in person, and you didn't want to do it, so...
Bro.
And y'all just saw it.
I mean, clearly, he didn't want to do it in person because he knows what it is.
Do you remember...
Back, almost two years ago, we were in New York for a podcast, and we came in there in good faith, and they came at us in bad faith, flagrant.
This was even worse.
They tried hard, bro.
Yeah, they tried really hard.
Really hard.
Yeah, this was ridiculous.
And it's like, they came up a period.
Yeah, bro, like...
Yo, dudes are using accusations from two years ago.
Damn, nigga, we adjust that in the fucking...
in 2021 in that saga, man.
And he...
Actually, to be fair with you, that's defamation, bro.
It is.
Because he blatantly said, you were this, you were that.
Without any proof.
Off of hearsay.
That's wild, bro.
I mean, even the girl herself knew, like, it was Cap.
She even said, no, I wouldn't say that, because she knows, man.
Bitch, she asked you to drive her 30 minutes to fucking come to my place at, like, 1 o'clock in the morning, 2 in the morning.
And I had to check with me.
Yeah.
I was like, damn, man, I don't want to do this shit.
God damn, I had to check in the car.
I said I'll do it for Myron.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Yeah, man.
Like, yo.
Hey, buddy, count.
Like, bro.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, no, you're 15.
Myron's eight.
Wait, I was eight.
No, no, no.
He gave you the higher number, actually.
Yeah, he gave you the 15.
So I'm eight.
I'm going to start telling girls I'm eight.
Because I'm darker than you, that's why.
Probably.
Wow.
So, yeah.
Wow.
But yeah, bro, people are gonna talk shit.
It is what it is.
He's gonna...
Obviously, he took clips and he thought he was gonna be, ha-ha, oh, you said this, but this and that, and try to drag Angie into it and shit.
And it's like, bro, Angie was single when she had those photos up and then she changed her whole shit when she got with me.
And it's like, she's been an asset to my life.
She's helped out so much.
I mean...
With everything else behind the scenes.
You guys know it.
But, you know, I knew that was going to come.
So, all good.
Also, as well, I... You know what?
I don't understand, bro.
Like, let's say, for example, a girl's helping you with your life.
But she's helping you out with maybe a business or, for example, helping you with your daily needs.
That's why she's around.
Regardless.
Like, no, marrying is different, by the way.
Yeah.
But because she's helping with stuff...
She can chill with us.
It's cool.
Yeah.
My wife and her is different.
Yeah.
But again, you have done the research in time to figure it out for yourself.
And if there was any type of issues, you would have seen it and be like, you know what?
Nah.
Yeah.
I just find it funny.
Their strongest argument is, Myron, she had those Instagram posts.
And I was like, well, if you watch that episode, I also said- They weren't even that bad.
Yeah.
Which he did say as well.
She had one bikini pic, whatever it may be.
Before I met her, that shit wasn't up when we were together.
They don't want to see you in a position of, like, however good, because it takes away from your power.
Yeah, they want to talk shit, man.
It is what it is, bro.
And, you know, of course he said that shit, like, you guys are monogamous now.
Okay, bro.
Whatever.
Well, you know what?
If I was, it was my choice.
Okay?
Yeah.
Cool.
We're monogamous.
What else do we got here?
Oh, yeah, we got some two more.
Return the slab for suffer my curse.
Damn!
Oh my god Return to Slob Return to Slob Damn Damn That's classic.
BlueJuJu says, FNF, please review Ethan's stream.
The clips shown here were heavily doctored and edited.
This was clearly a hit job, not a debate.
WFNF hyped for Andrew Wilson.
Yeah, it was a hit piece, bro.
Yeah, but they made themselves look stupid.
Yeah.
That's why we record it on our side.
You know what, guys?
Clips of our own.
Let's put it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We need to, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We do, actually.
All right.
But he got owned a bunch of times.
How many times did he concede?
He conceded on almost everything.
Of course.
Oh, okay.
You guys are anti-Semitic.
Oh, okay.
All right, then.
I guess Andrew Tate and them aren't traffickers.
Okay.
You know, I guess I don't know what I would do if I was single.
All of those.
Yeah.
How many times did he concede during the debate?
Every single point he conceded.
Yeah.
Because he knew he was wrong.
He couldn't debate.
He wasn't there to have a debate, which is awesome because it just makes us look that much better.
Undefeated, bro.
We're undefeated with these losers.
Myron the monogamous.
Somebody said that in the chat.
You guys are funny, man.
Nigga said Myron the monogamous.
I want this to be very clear, though.
Very clear.
If you worked on yourself as a man, and you make a choice to be monogamous, that's cool.
That was your choice.
I just want y'all to make that decision.
Assistant Ethan, you know what?
Props to you.
You made a choice for yourself to get married, and you did it.
Props to you.
If I want to be single and have fun, that's my choice, too.
Yeah, monogamous is my choice, though.
Come on.
Let's keep it a million.
Let's keep it a million, man.
Nope.
Listen, man.
Piglet needs to get warm, too.
Anyhow, guys.
What?
Girl show coming up next with Chris.
Any last words on this?
People are saying, yo, you should have put clips in all this.
Guys, we're not going to play their game.
You know what I mean?
Like, we don't need to.
And here's the thing.
We couldn't play the clips anyway.
I had that Ben Shapiro clip ready to go for him.
They disabled.
But they disabled the screen share.
So we couldn't do it anyway.
The proof is on our live.
The proof is on our live, man.
So, guys, obviously they knew that we would cook them if we came up with the shit, but it's fine.
We out-debated them, which is what matters.
Whenever he was losing, who cares?
I don't care.
And guys, I know I act dumb on camera, but it's better to act dumb, people like that, because people like that, bro, they act all smart.
Let them underestimate you.
But then, they're retarded.
It's just like, bro.
Let them underestimate you, for sure.
Yeah, mo.
Freshest Standout TV interview on Grilling.
Oh yeah, bro.
Yo, if you guys have not seen Freshest Standout TV interview...
Appreciate that, bro.
Yo, that's how you talk to girls.
Yo, that is one of the best ways when it comes to game.
I don't even want to hear nothing about Fresh being a true, Fresh is a trick.
No, bro, Fresh has true game.
I mean, he's a man of God.
My bad, my bad.
There you go, there you go.
I'm sorry, Fresh.
No, no, but like, you know, you gotta play the part.
Do what you gotta do.
But again, Ethan took a major L, bro.
Oh, yeah.
She was feeling you.
She's cool.
She hated Myron, but she was feeling you.
She hated Myron, too.
And the other thing, too, that was interesting, they said that we deleted the Nick Fuentes thing.
We never deleted it.
It was never on YouTube to begin with.
Yeah, it was on Rumble.
It was on Rumble.
They just took an L, man.
Ethan, hold the L, bro.
Just hold the L, dog.
That was terrible.
They could try to say, you deleted all these videos.
Yeah, they're on Rumble.
Whatever, man.
What's up?
And Rumble's public.
And Rumble, yeah.
Rumble's public.
You can watch it anytime.
You can watch it right now.
Yeah, you can go watch it right now, man.
All those videos with Nick are on Rumble, guys, for obvious reasons.
We couldn't put them on YouTube.
Yeah.
So we did one on YouTube, and that was a problem.
Last chat.
Abel Ace.
Okay.
Y'all should have pulled a clip where he said women are on Earth just to be conquered and crept.
And the one where he called for the NRA meeting to be bombed.
You know, I was going to mention that, but I said, you know what?
We're not going to stoop to your level, bro.
They wouldn't let us anyway.
And even if we pulled it, they wouldn't let us.
Remember, they blocked their screen sharing, guys.
Our purpose.
But it's fine.
That's all.
Okay.
That's it.
Girls show coming up, guys.
I think so.
What time is it right now?
It's like 7.
We would normally be like...
Oh, it's only 8.
Okay.
We would normally have a show.
All right.
So, yeah, guys.
We'll try to start it sooner if we can.
It's literally 8 p.m., man.
I mean, again.
Why not?
Yeah, we'll try to start it sooner.
Once the girls come in.
Once the girls come in.
Yeah, we'll get that thing going right away.
Chris isn't even here.
That's how you know.
I guarantee you, bro, for YouTube, you know what I can do for comments?
What?
Make it only members.
Probably.
Because they're going to get it flamed.
Probably.
I guarantee you, bro.
Probably.
Do you know how they move?
Alright.
You're gonna turn off the comments as a whole.
Yeah.
Oh, they might!
Hey, again, like I said before, guys, they've been waiting, you guys are waiting a couple years for them to get that ass whooping, so I appreciate you guys being patient.
You know, they've been ducking us for years, bro.
Yeah.
And niggas, the best thing, they had years of preparation, that's what they could come with.
Terrible.
Bruh.
I was just like, bro, I was just like...
Roasted.
Just ducking and weaving and just boom, uppercut here, hook here.
Like, bruh, they got cooked.
They really got cooked.
If you watch that podcast in this totality, you'll see someone trying to argue in bad faith, non-articulate, terrible points, conceding on a bunch of accusations that they made, trying to say, oh, sexual assault, when in reality the girl literally said, oh yeah, I was on the edge of his bed, then he said, come here, and I came over.
Where's the mouthwash?
Then where's the mouthwash?
You know what I'm saying?
Well, you said that she has lopsided titties.
Is that a crime?
To make an observation that's true?
Criticism is not illegal.
Yeah, criticism is not illegal.
Shout out to Mo for that.
That's it?
That's it.
All right, guys.
We'll see you guys in a little bit.
We'll be back in a little bit.
We love y'all ninjas.
Peace.
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