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And without further ado, ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what we do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, your body count.
And we're going to start right here.
Welcome to the show.
Hey, y'all!
Oh, man.
So my name is Joy.
I work at Victoria's Secret, but I do a lot of...
Wait, hold on.
How old are you?
I'm 23.
Okay, and where are you from originally?
Miami.
Okay.
Red flag.
Yeah.
And you said you work for Victoria's Secret.
I work for Victoria's Secret.
Like corporate or like in a store?
In the store.
Okay.
What's the secret?
Me.
What's your highest education level completed?
I'm a senior in college.
Okay.
What are you getting your bachelor's in?
Business.
Okay.
Relationship status?
Single.
Okay.
Typical.
And then, are your parents still together or divorced?
No, together.
Okay.
How long?
Oh, like 24 years.
Okay.
Cool.
And then I can ask the other question after.
Okay.
That's fine.
All right.
What's your name?
I'm Dayona Joy.
Okay.
I'm 20 years old.
I'm a server, but I'm in beauty school to be a facial specialist.
Okay.
Where are you originally from?
I'm from Fort Lauderdale, Broward County.
All right.
And you said you're in school to do, I'm sorry?
Beauty school, facial specialist.
You want to be an esthetician?
Yeah, basically.
Okay.
So your highest education level complete is high school though, right?
Yeah.
Alright, so for a lot of deal.
And then, what is your relationship status?
I'm single.
Alright.
And then, are your parents still together?
They, like, separated, but they hang out every day.
If that makes sense.
Okay.
When did they divorce?
They separated, like, three years ago.
Okay.
Don't ask me.
I don't want to know.
Come on, man.
I don't live in the house anymore, so it's not my business.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
I'm Leia Ray.
I'm 20 years old.
I do mainstream porn and I also do OnlyFans.
Okay, so you're like...
You're on the official sites.
I am.
Every single one of them.
Wait, 20 doing porn?
Yeah.
That's like the best time to start.
Are you kidding me?
I have my whole career ahead of me.
You have a father?
Yeah, and I pay for his shit.
Oh shit.
Yo, so we're also talking, right?
She's like, oh, I'm lit on porn.
I'm like, really?
No way.
Show me the front page, it's all her.
I'm like, what the fuck?
That's crazy.
Where are you originally from?
California.
What part?
The Bay Area.
Okay.
You from San Fran or Oakland or what are we talking?
My family's from like Vallejo, Fairfield area.
Okay.
Alright, Valeo.
Interesting.
That's where the Zodiac Killer killed a bunch of people.
That's also where E-40 and all them came from.
We put a lot of music out there.
Thank you very much, N-W-A and all them bitches.
Okay, so, O-F. Okay, what's your high school, but I do have a degree in child development.
A bachelor's?
What, child development?
Yeah.
Okay, where'd you get it from?
It was the college in Rockland, Sierra College.
Okay.
And then, relationship status?
Single.
And body count?
Yeah, good luck.
I couldn't tell you.
Are your parents still together?
Nah.
Divorced?
Yeah.
How long have they been divorced?
They ain't been together my whole life.
Alright, so over 20 years.
Alright.
And then, we'll ask that question last.
Okay, what about you?
What's your name?
Hi, I'm Lana.
Okay.
How old are you?
I am pretty old.
33.
Okay.
So you were born in 90?
Yeah.
Okay.
Where are you from originally?
Israel originally.
Okay.
I live in New York.
Okay.
So Israel originally, but you live in New York now?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I'm an accountant.
The real kind though.
Are you a CPA? Yeah, I am.
What part of Israel are you from?
Are you from Tel Aviv?
I'm from Kiriat Ghat.
Bless you.
What's your highest education level completed?
You got a master's?
No, I didn't get my master's.
I got a bachelor's.
Do you need a master's to be a CPA? No, you need 150 credits.
Relationship status?
Single.
Where'd you get your bachelor's at?
Brooklyn College.
Okay.
Are your parents still together?
Yes.
Of course they are.
Bro!
Are they here in the States or are they back in Israel?
They're in the States.
Okay.
How long have they been married for?
Yes.
I guess 35 years.
35 years?
Wow.
Of course, man.
Cool.
What about you?
What's your name?
Hey, y'all!
I'm Shelly.
Alright.
How old are you, Shelly?
I'm Shelly.
How old are you?
23.
Okay.
Where are you from?
Bahamas.
Okay.
What part of the Bahamas are you from?
Nassau Village.
Nassau?
Okay.
What do you do for it?
I'm a concierge in security.
Okay.
Back in the Bahamas or here?
Here.
Okay.
So you live here now?
Yeah, I live here now.
You do security?
Bro, she tall as fuck, man.
Don't fuck around.
She about 6'5"?
I believe you.
6'2".
6'2"?
6'2"?
She tall as fuck, man.
Goddamn!
Alright, what's your highest education level completed?
Master's, that's it.
A master's?
Okay, in what?
Nursing.
Okay, did you get it here?
Yeah, in Miami.
What school you go to?
I went to Miami-Dade Medical Campus.
Okay.
Alright.
And then where'd you get your bachelor's in, just out of curiosity?
Mommy did back on campus.
Went back two times.
No, I mean, what was it in?
Like, the degree?
Your bachelor's?
Nursing.
Nursing as well?
Okay.
All right.
And then, are your parents...
What's your relationship status?
Single.
All right.
And then parents?
Married for over 40 years.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
W. Big Ws.
All right.
What about you?
Eden, diabetic coochie.
Okay.
That's interesting.
My last name.
That's a first.
That's a first.
She has an insulin thing next to her.
Wait, did us?
Yeah, I have an insulin pump.
Titty was popped out for the paramedics and all.
Maybe this morning, yeah.
She pops pussies for a living.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 22.
Okay, where are you originally from?
California, Orange County.
Orange County, alright.
What do you do for it?
OnlyFans.
Okay.
Is that your stage name, I guess?
Eden...
What was it?
Diabetic Pussy?
Diabetic Coochie.
It's the C-shirt, because otherwise it would be pussy.
Yeah, okay.
Highest education level completed?
One semester of community college.
Payout!
So we'll put high school.
Okay, then...
Relationship status?
Single.
Okay.
She belongs to the street!
What if you're, like, doing a scene and you need your insulin?
I'm gonna take it!
I'm gonna take it!
Wait, on camera?
Well, you edited it.
Oh, no, no.
You bitch.
Are you, um, are your parents still together?
Yes.
How long have they been married?
24 years.
What do they think about your profession?
They love me.
They love me through anything.
It's not that they're the biggest fan of it, but they still support me.
They support you, but they had questions about it at first.
What about you?
My name is Jasmine.
I'm 23.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm from Lawrence, Massachusetts.
Are you Dominican?
And Puerto Rican.
Oh my goodness!
That's a crazy mix, bro.
Did you guys search her before the show?
Are we safe right now?
Probably not.
Lawrence, Massachusetts.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I'm a certified audiology assistant.
Okay.
I thought she was going to say drug dealer.
That would be a pharmacist.
I work with hair loss and hearing aids and stuff like that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright.
What is your highest education level completed?
High school diploma.
You didn't have to go to like a trade school to do the audiology?
I got it through the company I work for.
Okay.
So you have a cert in that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, and then what's your relationship status?
Single.
Alright.
I gotta ask, bro.
Do you have kids?
No.
Okay.
Are your parents together?
No.
When did they divorce?
When I was 11 months, so like 22 years ago.
Oh, shit.
Typical.
Oh my god.
And then what about you?
What's your name?
My name is Mari.
I'm 19.
Where are you from?
I'm from Cali.
What part of California?
The Inland Empire, the IE. Actually, Diddy would love you, by the way.
You said what?
Nothing.
Alright, what do you do for work?
I'm a stripper.
Okay.
Well, she said it pretty self-explanatory.
Do you want to drop where you work?
Yeah, I work at Imperial Grills.
Come visit me.
It's in Anaheim in Cali.
That shit far as hell.
Don't worry, don't worry.
So I'm assuming you actually live in California and you're just here visiting?
Yes.
Okay.
Are you dancing while you're here too?
I'm going to try.
I know a lot of girls come here and dance as well.
I'm going to guess from her current size, it's going to be either 11 or Gold Rush.
What did I tell you about Gold Rush?
What did I tell you?
You got to go somewhere she's going to stand out.
She's going to go somewhere where all the people look the exact same as her and she's going to be competition for the money.
She's going to booby trap some tootsie, something like that.
She's going to make all that money.
No, they won't hire you unless you're a certain weight and type.
It goes by that.
That's how a lot of clubs are.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Highest education level completed?
High school, I'm guessing?
High school, yeah.
Relationship status?
Single.
And how long have you been scripting for?
I started in August, actually, of this year.
So a few months, what, three months or something like that?
Yeah, a few months.
You like it?
I like it.
If you ever see Diddy in a club, tell him your age.
He'll love you.
That doesn't sound right.
Are your parents still together?
No.
Okay, when did they divorce?
They were never together.
They were engaged and separated when I was like two.
Oh shit.
Okay.
Do you talk to your dad or no?
I do.
Okay.
What does he think about your profession choice or he doesn't know yet?
He doesn't know about my profession, but my mom supports me.
Well, he going on now.
All right.
And what about you?
What's your name?
My name is Caitlin.
I'm from Georgia.
What part of Georgia are you from?
Savannah.
Okay.
It's a nice place.
Hold on one sec.
You said Savannah.
How old are you?
31.
31.
Okay.
And then what do you do for work?
31.
Yep.
I'm a bartender and a model.
Okay.
You bartend in Savannah?
No, I bartend here.
Oh, so you live here now?
Yes, I live here.
But you're originally from Savannah.
Okay.
Nice city, by the way.
A lot of historical stuff.
Highest education level completed?
I have a bachelor's.
In?
Criminal justice and abnormal psychology.
Where'd you get your CJ from?
South University.
Where's that at?
It's a little private school in Savannah.
Okay.
And then you said you're a bartender.
What was the other profession?
I model as well.
Okay.
First, you want to drop it?
The question is though, as Drake would say, have you been in Vogue?
No, but I've been in some other stuff.
You're not a model then, sorry.
Okay, is it like Pornhub like her or no?
No, it's like lingerie.
Okay, relationship status?
I am in a relationship.
Okay, only one.
How long y'all been together?
Almost a year.
That's good.
How'd you guys meet?
He was actually really good friends with a co-worker of mine and he used to come in the bar and like hang out.
Okay.
What does he do?
He has his own construction company and he's also like a bodybuilder.
Okay.
Alright.
Cool.
Last but not least.
Are your parents still together?
No.
No?
Okay.
When did they divorce?
Oh gosh.
In like 2010, 2011.
Okay, so like when you were pretty much an adult?
Yeah, yeah, I was 18.
Okay, alright.
Cool.
Alright, go ahead.
Are you into that last question or no?
We can drop it now and get a thought up or down.
So ladies, real quick, this is our new question on the panel.
If you're on birth control, raise your hand.
If you're not, keep it down.
How many birth control?
Only two of y'all are on birth control?
Come on, man.
Nigga, you don't see.
What do you mean?
Yeah, you gotta be on birth control.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm the most clean way you can fucking do have sex at all.
I don't need to be on birth control.
Ladies, ladies, ladies.
And if you want, you can explain why.
We know a lot of free hormone regulation.
It doesn't necessarily mean you're a whore.
We're not trying to say, oh, you're on a slut.
How many of you are on birth control?
We are collecting data.
Just curious.
That's why.
Yeah, how many?
So only two of y'all?
Only two.
Stop capping, man.
Now, if we have been on birth control, it's a different question.
But if we are actively on it, no.
How many girls on the panel are actively on birth control?
Only two?
All right.
Wow.
Even you?
I just said.
I have, but I'm on the mic.
My bad.
Penis.
I have before.
Okay, but you're not on it at the moment.
Am I actively?
No.
Okay.
Okay.
Damn.
All right.
And last but not least, our guest of honor, Pretty Boy Fredo.
Tell them who you are, brother.
Hey, man.
Big Fredo.
Fredo two times, man.
I want to shout out to the guys for having me.
I appreciate it, man.
It's an honor to be on the panel, man.
Let's have some fun with the ladies, man.
How y'all feeling tonight?
Y'all good?
Good.
All right.
Hey, shout out to the chat too, man.
And the people behind the scenes.
A lot of love in here, man.
Shout out to you guys.
There you go.
All right.
Supporting Friday.
Can you hear the chats real quick?
I'm going to start with the first one here.
Yeah, you got it.
Blackest Panther says, Before the ladies ask about three or four, a woman that can sleep with a man without catching feelings or chasing after that man after sex is the definition of a three or four.
Basically, if a woman doesn't become clinging to the man she gave her body to, she's considered a three or four.
Absolutely not.
I disagree, yeah.
So hold on, let's start here first.
So based off of his description, you're sleeping with a guy, you're not clingy, you're kind of like distant to him, it doesn't really matter, no feelings.
Like friends with benefits.
Is she a hoe at that point?
I don't think so.
You're not taking anything that's not being offered.
But generally speaking, if you have to give your body to somebody, you kind of want to have some type of like, you know, back and forth.
I think it depends on the people.
I think if that's all you're looking for in that period, if that's all you're capable of, then absolutely.
Then what do you call that, though, if you're just fucking for fucking?
Fuckin' for fuckin'.
Sports fuckin'.
Human nature.
She wouldn't call her a hoe?
No, I wouldn't call her a hoe.
I think being a hoe would be like doing malicious things sexually.
Doing things sexually to cause harm.
Like?
That's hoe behavior.
Like what?
Like sleeping with your best friends, man.
Violating the code.
Doing things...
Dirty?
Yeah.
What about you?
Oh, well, to me, they said 304.
And I feel like that's a little bit different.
If you were 304, you're getting something in return.
You're getting money, you're getting, you know, tricking, like, you're getting something in return.
If you're a hoe, that's just, like...
For free.
Yeah.
Or, no.
It's not a 304.
They're saying if a girl, like, she throws anyone...
Is she a 304?
There's a difference between hoe and 304.
Yeah, exactly.
A 304 is more like tricking.
Like, you are, like, that's like fucking for bottom dollar type of thing.
You're getting money in return.
It's like...
That's the same shit, man.
I guess for the purposes of that, can we pull that question up one more time?
It says here, before the ladies ask about 304, a woman that can sleep with a man without catching feelings or chasing after that man after sex is the definition of a 304.
Basically, if a woman doesn't become clingy to the man she gave her body to, she has a 304 agree.
So basically, a woman that's lost attachment to sex, would you guys consider that a girl that's a hoe?
Because, I mean, that's what 304 literally means.
If you put it in a calculator and flip it upside down, it says hoe.
So what's the definition for the man?
I was just about to say, so if the man can fuck without any effects...
We'll get to that in a second, but just for the purposes of females, and we can talk about men hoes after, if you guys really want.
I feel like if a woman is just having, like, sex, and she doesn't have, like...
And she's not having, like, emotions for that man behind it, it doesn't make her a hoe.
It just means...
She's probably doing her own shit.
It's like, a man can do it.
He's not, you know, considered a man hoe.
Alright, so you think she's not a hoe for that?
No.
No.
Okay, what about you?
And you said she's not a hoe either, right?
No, I don't think so.
Okay, so detached sex for you guys is not hoe behavior.
I think if you...
Hold on, we'll get to you.
It's not your turn yet.
So no and then no, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright, what about you?
I think in general, if like it's mutual and that's what she wants to do with her life and that's her decision, that's her.
But personally, I don't just have sex with anyone, but that's just me.
So everyone's different.
So what do you think?
Do you think a girl's a hoe?
She has detached sex?
Yes or no?
No.
I think that's just what she wants to do.
And you think that doesn't make her a hoe?
No, that's for making decisions.
Why don't you do it then?
Because that's just not what I do.
That's just not the decisions I want to make.
Well, why don't you want to make that decision?
Because that's just not me.
Everyone's different.
But I'm asking, why don't you want to make that decision?
Because that's just not who I am.
That's not how I carry myself.
That's just not who I am.
You're saying it's not who you are.
What does it make you if you do it, though?
I see what you're trying to do, but that's not what I'm trying to say.
Very interesting.
I think there's just generally some people that are incapable of having emotional sex.
There are some people that are only capable of detached forms of intimacy.
Women?
Men and women.
I don't think it's not limited to gender.
It's not subject yet to specific genders.
I don't think most women can do that, to be honest.
Well, but that's because you're experiencing it from a men's point of view.
Women could say the same thing about men because we're having the same experience just with the opposite gender.
So you basically have a lot of sex with detached emotions.
Yeah.
But you're a porn star, so you look at it different though.
But even in my personal life, when I'm hooking up with...
Like, I feel like when you're having sex, you're looking at it as a job versus...
But even when in my personal life, it's still different.
So in your personal life, you have detached emotions to your sex?
Yeah.
If I... And what kind of situations are there?
You're an Aquarius.
I am.
That's what...
No, I've literally been trying to figure it out.
What kind of situations are those?
What kind of situations are those, like, in your everyday life?
Of having detached sex?
Yeah, yeah.
That's more so like...
At my point in life, I'm not really looking for a boyfriend.
So like, I make it very clear.
So you go get a nut?
Is that what you said?
That's different.
Because of my job, I also am very careful about the people who I do have sex with.
So although it may not be emotionally attached, I still have to make sure that what I'm doing is not going to jeopardize my money.
So, here I am.
I may meet somebody and we might kick it off.
Okay, so here's what I do for my work.
I'm not looking for anything serious, but I'm going to let you know that I do still want to have a friends with benefits type of situation.
But that also has to come with clear communication.
I can have detached sex with you and still be able to be your friend or have a normal conversation and not, like, we don't have to be together for me to be able to do that.
I have a follow-up question after this, but let me just get to everybody.
So, do you think a girl having detached sex makes her a 304?
I mean, the word detached sex, you could be desensitized sexually for a million different reasons, but then just having men get their nut off all the time.
Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, stop comparing to men.
I'm asking this question strictly from the female perspective.
I'd be happy to entertain the male perspective after the fact.
No, I was going to follow it up with the female perspective.
All I was going to say is, the same way a man wants to get their nut, a girl can want to go get her nut.
There's going to be the time you do lovemaking.
Okay, what about you?
I ain't gonna fly, definitely a ho.
Okay.
You think that makes him a hoe?
Yeah.
Don't be shy.
Tell the mic, man.
Tell him what's up.
Why so?
It's not that I feel you a hoe.
It just feel like you shouldn't be sleeping around with a lot of people and expecting to have a relationship with a guy and have a guy to take you seriously.
Okay.
Because when they do it, you don't like it.
So why would you want to expect to go sleep with a hundred people and expect him to come back with one body like it ain't going to work that way.
You as a hoe.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think detached sex, if a woman's capable of having detached sex, that makes her a hoe?
I think if it's often, then yeah, it does kind of make her a hoe.
Often, okay.
What is often for you then?
All the time.
Okay.
Can you give us a numerical?
You're an accountant.
Can you give us a numerical definition of that?
I guess if it's constant, if it's every time the woman has sex, then...
Like if it's the majority.
Yeah, if it's...
If it's...
Just say yes, man.
I guess it could make her a hoe, yeah.
There's a potential.
For you, I know you're all spoken on this.
You said no, right?
No.
Okay.
Why no?
Because I think it's ignorant to say that a woman has to have emotion to be able to have sex with somebody.
I think that there are many situations, like she has stated, that somebody could be emotionally detached sexually, which that may not necessarily even be your fault that you react to sex that way.
It's just that it's hard for you to connect that way in general.
So when you're having that Do you think a majority of women can have detached sex like that, though?
I can't speak for the majority because it's very subject to person.
I mean, if I lined up 100 average women...
I couldn't tell you how those women live their life every day, so I couldn't tell you what circumstances they've been in that would make them possibly feel like they could have detached sex.
I could tell you that the majority of women that I meet...
It is not something that has to be, I have to be sexually, or I have to be emotionally attached to you to be able to provide myself sexually for you.
So we can say in your profession itself, the women in that category will have sex that is detached because of their land of work, right?
Yes, absolutely.
Can I add something?
I feel like, not to be misogynistic, but I feel like the majority of women are quote-unquote sluts.
It's just who's honest about it.
Exactly.
You're either a slut in the open or a slut in the open.
I see what you're saying.
I see what you're saying.
Undercover is better than...
But undercover means that now I'm lying to you.
Now I'm creating more situations when I could just be upfront and honest and no one's feelings get hurt.
Most girls are not like you.
Most girls are not like you.
Most girls are not having that conversation with a man.
Right, but that also has to do with...
Most girls are undercover hoes, I would say.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm disagreeing with the statement that it's better to be an undercover hoe.
That creates a whole lot of more problems with the people that I'm messing around with, as well as that also creates a question for safety.
Are you having safe sex now?
Because now I don't know who you're hooking up with or what they're doing.
And so now I have to question whether I can even have safe sex with you.
Real quick, let me get to the rest of the people.
What about you?
Do you think being able to have detached sex as a woman makes you a hoe?
I wouldn't say it necessarily makes you a hoe.
I think it just depends on whether you, like, you can start off having sex with somebody and it just be friends, but the more you spend time with each other, like, you could possibly develop feelings or you could not.
But if you want to fuck them as friends, like someone said, like, that should be a mutual agreement.
Well, wouldn't it be fair to say that by becoming a friend you're building attachment to some degree?
I mean, you guys can still be friends, though.
Like, it's not like there's no expectations, like relationship expectations.
But there's still some level of investment, though, right?
If you're being friends with someone.
There's a level of investment, but do you want to invest in your sex life, yes or no?
Do you want to have sex, yes or no?
Like, that's really up to you.
Alright, what about you?
Do you think women having detached sex makes them hoes?
Yeah, I'll say yes.
Why do you say that?
Because I feel like we should just look at it based upon the definition of what a hoe is.
A hoe is having sex with multiple people.
And if you can have detached sex with multiple people, you are a hoe.
Now, if you want to make it a positive or a negative, that's on you.
Some people feel like being a hoe is a positive thing.
Some people feel like being a hoe is a negative thing.
But at the end of the day, the definition of a hoe is having sex with multiple people.
So if you're having sex with multiple people...
No, let me ask you this, and I'll start this here and then go back around, and then I know you guys want to talk about the male perspective.
Do you think a woman having detached sex is a learned behavior or a natural behavior?
I feel like it's a learned behavior just because of the simple fact that females...
We have sex because we have...
You have to have that...
Attachment?
Not even that attachment.
You have to have that comfort in someone.
Like you're not going to open your legs to someone where you feel uncomfortable with.
That's why we have the ability to say yes or no.
That's why that word is given to us.
You all don't have that ability.
You all have to ask for that.
So we have to say yes or no.
So to you it's a learned behavior.
What about you?
Do you think it's a learned behavior being able to have detached sex or it's a natural thing that women can just do?
I think back to what someone said earlier, like you could be into sex and then something could happen to you to make you detach from sex.
What could that be?
Rape.
Like, if you get sexually assaulted, you can literally not want to ever do that again in your life because you're so traumatized from the experience.
But wouldn't the argument be that that would be a learned behavior from a traumatic experience?
That's the question I'm asking.
I'm not asking, you know, how it's done.
I'm asking, is detached sex for women a learned behavior or a natural behavior?
I think it could be either or.
I think people could just not want to be in that state.
All right, how about this?
The majority of women.
If I line up 100 women and they're hoes...
Learned or natural.
Or they're promiscuous.
Do you think their ability to have detached sex...
It could be learned because you're also surrounding yourself by that.
So that's what you're learning from.
So you're going to go based off what you're surrounding yourself by.
All right, what about you?
Do you think it's a learned behavior or a natural behavior by women?
I think it's neither.
I think it's a choice.
It's not necessarily like it just comes naturally to be able to have sex and not be attached.
But as well as just because you've been through a traumatic experience and now it affects you a certain way doesn't mean as well that it's a learned thing.
That is a physical thing in your brain.
That's a PTSD trauma experience.
That's natural.
It's not a natural occurrence that caused it, though.
It's a natural way for our brains to react, but the way that it happened, the reason why we got there was very much not natural.
But it's an adaptation to an experience, which means, by definition, it's learned.
Yeah.
But it's not, because I didn't learn, I didn't say, oh, okay, so because this happened to me, I'm going to start reacting this way to sex, or I'm going to switch my position on how I feel about sex.
It's more so like, because this has happened to me, I'm now realizing that my feelings and my attachment towards it has changed due to chemical things inside of my brain causing me to react this way to it now.
And you can learn from those what your triggers are and stuff like that.
That's a learned behavior from experience.
You're confirming what he just said.
Yeah, your argument is basically that's a learned behavior.
You might not like the way I'm phrasing it, but you're literally saying it's a learned behavior by your own explanation.
Can I say something?
Yeah.
Because I feel like that's probably the problem.
I feel like it's probably how they're asking it is what's making us triggered so much to feel like...
They're attacking us, but at the end of the day, a word is a word, a word has a definition, and a learned behavior is not something that you automatically have.
When you're born as a baby, you don't have this trigger to where, like, if someone...
I know what's going to happen if somebody rapes me, I'm going to immediately act like this.
So once...
Shut up.
But once that happens, that's a learned behavior.
So I think it's probably just how he's saying it, but at the end of the day, it's a learned behavior.
I mean, if you want to say it's not a learned behavior, that's fine.
I'll put it.
It's not a learned behavior.
I think it's a choice, but I think the learned...
Okay, go ahead.
But how could it be a choice then?
Because you're taking all of the knowledge of everything that you've been through and you're deciding on whether or not you want something.
Oh, knowledge.
That means you learned something, right?
Okay, but a PTSD traumatic experience, something that you cannot handle on how you react to is not a learned experience.
That is something that was brought onto you.
That is how your body reacts without you having to think about certain things.
Learning...
Hold on, you just said it was a choice, right?
Choice means you're making the choice.
To have emotionless sex.
You're lucid.
You're able to make the decision, which means it's a choice.
To have emotional sex, yes.
No, no, no.
Emotionless sex, sorry.
You contradicted yourself a few times.
You're a teacher, right?
A preschool teacher, yeah.
You're saying it's not a learned behavior, but then you're going back and saying it's a choice.
But if it's a choice, that means that that choice was predicated based on some type of experience, which means it's literally learned.
Because you're making the choice from some base of knowledge.
And if you have knowledge, that means you learned something.
Which is why I'm saying it's a choice.
But I'm saying a PTSD... A PTSD reaction, I feel like it's natural, though, so I feel like it could be...
That's not learned, is what I'm saying.
It is a reaction from your body that's natural.
It's a learned response to something that occurred to you, and it's an adaptation.
I feel like something that's learned is something that I have knowledge of, like, getting taught my one, two, threes.
Is it learning natural?
Learning from your environment is pretty natural.
So I feel like it's, like, both.
You know?
I say both.
Like, I don't know.
All right.
Wait.
She teaches preschool kids?
Yes, Chris.
All right.
What about you?
Do you think a woman having detached sex is a learned behavior or natural in general?
I think sex is biological.
And I think if a woman is having detached sex, it's probably out of necessity.
She's a hoe.
No.
Out of necessity?
Okay.
Yeah, maybe she needs to do it for a living.
Okay.
Maybe she doesn't have any way to make any other...
You know, maybe she doesn't have a way to make money or she...
It's a last resort.
Okay.
Not for everybody.
Is it a learned behavior?
Some people like it.
Since it's out of necessity, is it a learned behavior from the necessity to do it to help kind of cope with it or is it natural that women can just have sex and be detached?
Well, maybe it's natural because men are naturally stronger than women, and maybe women naturally have a sexual position that's kind of the yin and the yang, the way to make things equal if men are physically stronger than maybe women have that.
A sexual...
Submissive.
Yes.
So you think women are naturally detached from sex?
No, I don't think so.
Okay, so it's a learned behavior then.
Okay.
I guess so.
Is it a learned...
I don't know.
Logic?
I'm not the building, bro.
I promise you, bro.
Is it a learned behavior?
That's what I'm asking you.
Do you think a woman being able to have detached sex is a learned behavior or it's natural?
I guess it's learned behavior, yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
Learned behavior or natural?
Learned.
Okay.
What about you?
I feel like it's so situational like some girls like the life they went through made them into hoes some girls have been like just always slutty like some people became sluts later on like it's so like you know hold on there's like the innate whore and there's a learned whore just like with her if they went through experiences and they're able to adapt to it wouldn't that make it mean that it's a learned behavior?
but what if you were a slut before nothing happened to you but then shit happened to you but you're always a slut do you think a majority of women are naturally sluts?
no so then wouldn't it be fair to say that most of the time it's a learned behavior?
Yes.
Because on paper, how can it be a slut without experience?
Exactly.
So it's kind of like...
Well, I mean, when I said experience, I mean like a negative sexual experience.
Like some girls become sluts after like some unconsensual or assault or whatever.
Some girls have been sluts.
And then, you know, certain things will make them more...
And they still learn behavior.
Yeah, but I was just saying there are innate sluts.
That was kind of...
We just don't like the word.
That's the problem.
It's the word that you're using, which is making people like, no, we're not sluts and hoes.
I was going to say, I'm a slut.
I'm a ho 110% all the way.
Trust me, we know.
Do you think it's a learned behavior or natural within women?
I think it's learned, but I also think you have a choice.
Even though you've learned something, you can still choose to not or to do it.
Okay, so learned.
What about you?
I would say it's learned.
Learned?
What about you?
Did you learn to be a scripper?
Yeah.
What about you?
I definitely think it's learned, but you could argue nurture versus nature and say that there are some people that are just more hypersexual than others, but at the same time, there's a lot of circumstances and situations and conditions that tend to bring that out in some people more than others.
Freda, what's your thoughts on this?
Definitely think it's learned.
This whole detached sex and learned behavior, et cetera.
They're hoes.
Yeah, I think that women who have detached sex are hoes, to be honest.
I don't feel like it's something that is, like, it's natural.
I don't think you come out your mom's womb a fucking hoe.
I think, like, if you're a hoe, you probably see some hoe shit, you turn into a fucking hoe, and now you're a hoe.
Even if you do it one time...
What do you mean one time?
Like, say one time, like, say you did have something happen to you, but you don't decide to have sex continually.
I wanted to say something on that.
If something happened to a girl, I think nine times out of ten, if it's like a traumatic art experience, they're going to want to be with a man that they're comfortable with.
It's not gonna be...
You know what I'm saying?
They're not gonna just keep fucking around just because they just got harged.
One mic at a time.
Thank you.
One mic at a time.
Somebody was saying something.
Go ahead.
I feel like it's like a psychology thing.
It's hypersexuality and sexual repulsion.
And girls can go down one road, the other road, go back and forth.
Me, myself, I've been there.
I've been, you know, go really repose and then be a fucking whore.
Like, it's like, sexuality is so fluid and that's not just, like, when I say that, that doesn't just mean, like, sexual orientation.
That just means a relationship to sex.
Absolutely.
Do you have something?
I'm just gonna be honest with you, man.
I mean, honestly speaking, if you got r-worded, that sucks.
It's not cool at all, but it's still a choice.
And if you decide to be a hoe, that's still on you.
Yeah, but I don't think it's negative.
Like, for me, I feel like my hoe experiences have made me feel more comfortable with myself because a lot of my early experiences weren't consensual, so being able to do a bunch of shit that was my choice, me personally...
It made me feel good.
That's not every girl.
Some people go have that whole face and hate that they did that.
What made you feel good?
Taking control over the situation.
Getting vocal because I used to never get my nut.
Now I got vocal.
I'll tell a man, this is sucks.
You're not fucking me good.
Eat pussy.
I guess I'll just address because you guys kept bringing up men and everything and I'll just kind of tie everything together but did you want to say something before I say this?
Yeah, I wanted to know why exactly did you start having sex after that?
Like, that second time after you had that experience, why did you decide to have sex and just that detachment sex?
I feel like, so, it was weird, like, I kind of have to get into it to make sense, like, the first...
No, well, I want to first say, I do, I'm so sorry that happened to you.
I really want to say, like, I really feel that that happened to you, but I do want to know.
What?
I really must have to, like, get that.
I was going to say, it happens to so many people in the sex industry.
Like, I feel like because I was like, it was kind of a grooming situation.
I was a lot younger.
I got to the age and I was like, wait, you're a fucking weirdo.
And then I feel like I just started fucking everybody.
But that was me.
I don't know.
It wasn't thought.
That was like mindless.
So you wanted to have sex.
You wanted to.
Personally, with my own experience, after those things had happened to me, I actually became, like, I didn't have sex for like two years.
Like, I didn't let anyone touch me at all.
And then I went from that to being a porn star.
So it, again, has to do with...
It has to do with just how you choose to move forward with the situation.
Like, I can either let it take me down completely and now, okay, now I'm never going to trust anybody to have sex again unless I build and have all of that effort put into having a good relationship and stuff like that.
Or I can just surround myself with better people that I know I can trust that won't take advantage of me in that way.
And then I'm building a connection with them as a friend.
I am that comfortability is there.
And I can have that sex with still feeling comfortable, still getting my nut off.
Okay, this is therapy.
Who's next?
You had a point, Myron?
Did you have something that you wanted to say?
I kind of spaced it.
I need three seconds.
Okay.
This is sad, man.
I'll give my take on this, because a lot of you guys were trying to compare it to men, so I'll just make it simple, right?
Go ahead.
I was going to say, I feel like also the whole phase of women, it's like a full circle, because I think a lot of guys, like, you know, can I say the type of people in the chat, like...
That we can't go and fuck like that because we don't get the same satisfaction, which is honestly true.
So I feel like most women who had an actual hoe phase circle back around to not having a bunch of random sex.
Ain't no circle back.
Once you go a hoe, you forever a hoe.
You can't spin the block on that.
I don't deny that phase.
I never lie to a man and be like, my buddy counts six.
Do you know what your body cat is?
No.
You don't know?
Okay.
Isn't it triple digits?
I think so.
I think so.
Are you creeping up?
All right.
So I think the best way to answer this is because you guys had mentioned men a few times, trying to compare men to women.
I think if you got to look at it from a biological standpoint, right?
So like what does sex do?
Create children, right?
Yes.
Could we all agree that it creates children?
Okay.
How many children can a woman bring to term per year?
One.
Without doing damage to your body, one.
Because your body needs time to heal and everything like that.
Or maybe a twin or triplets, but in general, one, right?
Right.
Now, how many children can a man bring to term per year?
A lot.
Too many.
Too many.
Oh, yeah.
You could bust multiple nuts a day with multiple women, right?
But we're overpopulated, so wouldn't that mean the other way around?
Please, please, stay focused on the example I'm trying to give here.
Because I'm saying all this to kind of paint a picture.
So...
If sex creates children, and we know that women typically can only bring one child to term, maybe two, or maybe even a triplet if she's lucky, right?
But a man can bust a bunch of nuts and impregnate a bunch of women.
What does that mean?
Well, that directly ties with our level of being able to have detached sex.
The reason why men aren't necessarily hoes for having sex with a bunch of women is because we are the homemakers.
We're the ones that impregnate you guys.
You guys are the ones that carry the seed for a year.
So women have to be more selective on who they fuck, right?
Because you can only bring one child to term per year.
So with that said, hold on.
So with that said, women naturally are more selective on who they have sex with in general than men are.
You could take the most promiscuous woman, right?
You said before, you're really selective on who you have sex with, right?
Because you got to make sure your money's right, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All this other stuff, right?
Even you as a porn star, as a promiscuous woman, you are going to be more...
You're gonna be more selective than even the most prudest of men.
Does that make sense?
So a guy that's not a horned dog is still gonna have sex with more women or majority women, whereas you won't, even though you're a very promiscuous woman.
So what I'm trying to establish here is that for a woman to have detached sex, it's a learned behavior because women are naturally selective on who they have sex with.
That's a biological reality.
But that's also assuming that everyone's fucking to have a kid.
No, I feel like you should just say that.
Okay, that's the same argument as you're eating candy to sustain yourself.
The reality is you're eating candy because you enjoy it, right?
But do you really need it to sustain yourself?
No.
People eat food for happiness, right?
They eat it for pleasure.
Same thing now.
People have sex, right, for pleasure now, but the base route is for children.
And that's why we still engage in certain practices and we look for the opposite gender.
Even though you're not going to have a kid with a guy, Still want a guy that's tall.
Still want a guy that has money.
Still want a guy that's charming.
You still look for these protector and provider instincts in the man, right?
Even though you're not gonna have children with him.
Gotta remember that we're still instinctualized to believe that we can have kids from having sex.
So when we meet our partner, we want them to be able to bear our child in a healthy manner.
That's why men look for younger women, women look for taller men, stronger men, guys that have money, all these shit.
So what I'm trying to say is that biology, a lot of the times, doesn't adhere to modern conventions.
We have birth control and shit, but women are still selective.
So, what I'm trying to say is that women are naturally more selective.
So, it's a learned behavior for a woman to be a whore.
It is.
Because you have to be able to get rid of attachment from men that's required for you to have sex with them in the first place.
And the only women that I've seen that are able to effectively do that are women that...
Are professionally promiscuous.
Porn stars, strippers, OnlyFans, girls, etc.
No offense.
That's why she's the most overly confident one about it.
Like, out of any girl here at the table.
Like, she stands on that whole shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It's only her.
Like, she's standing on that shit.
Maybe her, too.
But it is a minority of women that can actually have detached sex.
Most women want some kind of investment from a sexual partner.
They want them to take her on a date.
They want to feel special.
They want to be wine and dine.
That's a double standard, though, too.
Because men expect that, okay, well, I have this bitch that I'm fucking, so because I'm fucking her, I can still go out and fuck whoever I want.
But you have to stay true to me and loyal to me when, like...
That's a very fair double standard.
Oh, how?
I'm sorry.
So he's agreeing with you.
No, no, no.
I thought you were saying it's fair to have.
I was like, hold on.
Hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, no.
I'm saying it is fair for men to demand that because women live life on easy mode.
How is it easy?
Wait, hold on.
You just admit, did you or did you not say that?
Women, if we get nutted in, we have to worry about a kid.
Y'all don't have to worry about that.
Y'all can get your nut off not having to worry about jack shit.
So how is that a fair standard?
How is that fair that we have more free roam than you do?
Okay, well, you guys all agree that women are more selective than men, correct?
Yes.
Does everyone here agree that women are more selective than men?
For the majority.
Is that natural or conditioning?
That's natural.
So, if women are more selective than men, would it be fair to say that most men struggle to get sex?
No.
Probably.
I disagree.
That's what I've been telling people too.
Genuinely, if you want it, you go out there, there will be somebody willing to give it up.
Hold on, hold on.
Do the rest of you think that it's easy for men to get sex in general?
Yes.
No.
If women are selective.
If women are selective, you just gotta be like, that guy.
Exactly.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Please, do some common sense.
What does it take to be that guy?
Because, okay, like, I also think...
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Stay focused.
Stay focused.
What does it take to be that guy?
It depends on the woman, but I think in general, confidence.
Where do you get the confidence from?
If you find it in a woman that's bad, you should find it in being motivated, doing a lot for yourself, having strong goals.
That's attractive.
So you have to work for it.
So men have to earn the ability to attract women, right?
I'm just saying, can we look at the baby alien situation right now on homie fans?
Because that's no standard at all.
Homie's still racking in bitches.
That's not the average.
That's not the average nigga.
And not only that, you want to make fun of him.
He was able to acquire status, which is not easy to acquire.
Exactly.
See, this is the thing.
Hold on.
Stop.
I think he deserves a good pussy.
No, I feel like at the end of the day, we'd be like, why did our boyfriend cheat on us with an ugly girl?
At the end of the day, a guy can have sex with whatever he wants to have sex with, but at the end of the day, that girl has to say yes.
Unless he rapes her, which is unfortunate.
But he still has to say yes.
Speaking of hoes, sorry Twitch.
Yeah, we'll kill Twitch and everything.
The point I'm trying to make is the reason why that double standard exists is because men have to work to get sex, women don't.
It's very simple.
I agree with that.
A high quality man will have more sexual discipline.
So you said the baby alien, right?
Like, if baby alien didn't have even the slightest bit of status or they didn't gain anything from baby alien fucking them, you know, those people on the bus or whatever, he would not be getting that pussy.
That nigga would still be a virgin today.
The average nigga cannot.
It's hard to get pussy.
But because he's so low on the scale, because he's unattractive, and most girls wouldn't fuck him without him trying real, real, real hard, he had to do no effort to be able to still get pussy.
The bang bust, they gained something from him fucking them on the camera.
That's the only reason why he didn't get pussy.
Right, but he didn't have to put any effort into that.
Why the fuck he had to get the status?
He had to put himself in a position.
He put himself in a position.
But again, because of him being so low standards, that he was giving the high standards.
That's my point.
Because he just skits for a period of time to get known.
And as well, it's an isolated incident.
Most guys don't have the opportunity at all.
But I'm just saying, like, the cringiness.
Like, he's seen as a cringy, as not very attractive and stuff like that.
So you're fucking a regular cringy nigga down the block.
That's what you're saying.
No, but I'm saying that that's what he got his...
Like, you guys are saying that...
It's isolated.
It makes no sense.
Most guys are not going to be like him.
I think your general man is not selective, but I like to think, or like, a man who has shit going for himself, he should be a little more selective.
You know what I mean?
He should be?
Yeah.
There's bougie, dude.
Why?
There are bougie men.
Usually a man who has a lot going on, he's going to be a little more selective with what he puts his dick in because he can.
That's how you're not getting taken advantage of.
You want to use that analogy of should and could.
How about this?
How about you should just like a guy that's broke and fat?
Those guys are really nice.
Yeah, where's he at now?
Fuck him, I'm not doing it again.
Exactly, that's my point.
So, the thing is, I love it when women say, men should XYZ, but if I was to tell you, yo, you should lower your standards and get a shorter guy that's fat, that, you know, he might not have the most money, but he'll love you.
Y'all will look at me like, fuck that shit, I'm not lowering my standards.
Why is that women want men to lower their standards?
Well, also, I feel like women, like, if a man's, like, you see with certain rappers, like, they might be, like, ugly as fuck in the face, but you have a certain aura, like, women will fuck with you.
You know?
Yo, this is what I mean when I say, yo, no offense, but this is what I mean when I say, like, women are retarded.
Let me explain why y'all are retarded.
No, no, no, no, no, hold on.
Let me explain.
Let me explain why a lot of women are very retarded in this sense.
Women will look at a guy and be like, he's successful.
Oh, girls fucked with this rapper.
Oh, they fucked this weirdo that's like on the bank bus, blah, blah, blah.
But y'all don't see all the work that man had to put in to even put himself in position to attract these women.
You think it was easy for that rapper to get a record deal, make music, record, have people curve him, have to send his demo tapes everywhere else like that?
Women look at the end product and think, oh, yeah.
Yeah, like, yo, you should do X, Y, Z. You don't know what that guy had to go through to even be in that position where you are now attracted to him.
Because you guys live life on easy mode.
You exist, 18 years old, you're on a fuckin' yacht.
But you don't understand that the man had to get the money and the status and the ability to get the fuckin' yacht.
Women think that, oh, men just come like this.
No, men have to grind to be able to even get the opportunity to take a girl on a date.
Being broke and getting with a broke man is one thing, but being rich and then getting with a broke man and having to support that broke man is a whole other thing.
I'm providing already a certain standard and a certain life for myself, and I'm not going to downgrade my life just because I find this dude attractive.
I'm not knocking you for having standards.
All I'm simply saying is that women have standards, but you guys forget that the men have to rise to...
But we're saying men should have standards.
That's what we're saying is they should be more selective.
You need to stop interrupting and listen more.
I'm not knocking women for having standards.
What I am saying is that you guys are unaware that most men don't rise to your standards, and the men that do are a fraction of the male population.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Women sit there and say, I want to get six feet tall.
I'm making a hundred thousand.
Blah, blah, blah.
Women typically want the same type of guy.
And the thing is that that's the minority of men.
But y'all don't get it.
The guy has to bust his ass to get there.
In other words, we have to work way harder to attract women than you guys have to work to get men.
So of course we can run around...
To attract and maintain our two different things, though.
The way about being a woman, we're not supposed to be on the same scale as a man.
And that is why, that is exactly why, I expect you to be loyal if I go fuck other bitches because I have to bust my ass to get to this position.
Okay, so hold on.
So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
If that's the case, if that's the case, what about, let's go back to like fucking Bible on how they think men and women should be.
Men are fucking the earners, right?
They're supposed to be doing the physical labor.
Yeah, like you fucking build a home, I'm going to make a home.
You build a house, I'm going to make a home.
Like you're bringing in the money.
I'm going to be the nurturer.
I'm still doing everything else.
I'm the one who's bearing the children, taking care of the children.
What are you guys trying to argue right now?
Wait, listen.
I have something to argue.
What are you going to argue?
I feel like, like I said in the beginning, a word is a word and a definition is a definition of the word.
At the end of the day, you cannot say this makes a girl a hoe and this doesn't make a boy a hoe.
A hoe is what?
Somebody who has sex with multiple people, right?
So if a girl is a hoe for having multiple sex with people, a guy is a hoe for having sex with multiple people.
If a girl cheats on her husband by having sex outside of her relationship, then a guy is a cheater for having sex outside of her relationship.
So I feel like it's...
The same concept between both sides.
So you can't say I'm a hoe if I'm in a relationship or I'm in a marriage and I decide to go out on somebody else and then now you decide to step out on the relationship.
You are a cheater.
So we need to accept it on both ends and that's why it's called a marriage because it's 50-50 and you come together and build 100.
50-50.
It is 50-50.
And on the days that one person has 20, you should be carrying 80.
We're not doing it based upon what I offer and what you offer.
As a man, you have your own responsibilities.
As a woman, I have my own responsibilities, regardless if you feel like it's enough for you and regardless if I feel like you're doing enough for me.
At the end of the day, you're a man and I'm a woman and I would never regard to what you have and you would never regard to what I have.
You can't have a baby, so you can't tell me what it feels like to have a child.
I can't work as hard as you, so I can't tell you how hard you're working.
But at the end of the day, You're a man, I'm a woman, and we're coming together to build this union.
Are men and women equal?
No, we're not equal.
So how is it a 50-50 partnership?
I'm saying we're not equal in certain aspects, but as a union, we are equal.
And that's what we have to desensitize from, because everybody's trying to say like, oh, you're this, and you're like 90, and I'm like 70.
Who's supposed to be the leader in the relationship?
The man.
Oh, by definition we're not equal then.
Done.
I disagree.
No, but that does not give you the ability to do what you want.
That does not give you the ability to do what you want.
At the end of the day, you're supposed to be any one person in charge of the relationship.
I think that's where it's going wrong.
Let me get this straight.
Why would you disrespect the person that you love?
One mic at a time.
You guys can't all talk over each other.
It's got to be one microphone at a time.
You guys are hurting the quiet of the show by speaking all at the same time.
I'll address your thing first.
So, by your own admission, men and women aren't equal, and then by your own admission, men are supposed to lead the relationship.
So explain to me, as the leader who has the responsibility now of taking care of you because I'm the leader, you expect to be a partnership.
That's not a fair deal for me.
So you're telling me that you have equal say when I'm the one that's responsible for everything?
That's ridiculous.
So I'll address it like this.
At the end of the day, our feelings are the same thing.
If I cheat on you, how would you feel?
Cheating from a woman is not the same as cheating from a man.
Why is that not?
Please explain that.
You're putting health at risk.
Wait, no, no, no, no.
Let him explain.
Why is it not the same if a man cheats on a woman from a woman cheating on a man?
Why is it not the same?
What do men look for in women?
I don't want to answer no questions.
You just answer that question.
No, no, no, no, no, because here's the thing.
You need to understand what I'm going to say here, so I need to ask you the question to see what your knowledge is for this to make sense.
Go ahead.
What do women bring to a relationship that men look for?
We have your children.
You would not be able to reproduce without us.
But hold on, what leads to the children?
Or you.
I think men look for a submission.
Please stop.
We're here, right?
So, you interrupting doesn't help.
So, what do men look for in the relationship?
What do they look for?
I'm not a man, so I wouldn't know what you're looking for.
So tell me what you're looking for.
So one of the biggest things that men look for in a woman is a woman that's not promiscuous.
There's a reason why men want a woman that's a virgin, right?
Why do men want virgins?
Because they're weirdos.
No, because typically you want a virgin because they're clean.
Please stop interrupting.
Why do men want virgins?
They usually want them because they're clean, they're untouched.
That's the nature of a woman.
Like a king.
Exactly.
I don't know how to really explain it, but that's just like...
Okay, let me explain it for you because you guys don't understand it.
There's a difference here because I understand women on a very deep level, but you guys don't necessarily understand men, okay?
The reason why men want women that are virgins is because we can ensure paternity, make sure the kid is ours.
Every man's greatest nightmare, just like you guys talking about rape, our biggest nightmare is being raped of our resources.
Having a kid that we thought was ours that we find out isn't a kid later.
Our kid.
Now, how do you ensure that?
Oh, she's a virgin?
My kid.
Paternity test.
Paternity test.
Hold on.
Look.
See, this is why...
That's a low IQ comment.
Because how long have we had paternity tests?
But we're in 2023.
No, but I just want to finish.
How long have we had paternity tests?
Maybe within the past 50 years?
70 years?
Well, human beings have been around way longer than that, right?
Okay, so since the beginning of time, men have wanted women that are not promiscuous and not wholesome that we can ensure the kid is ours.
Now, let's go back to your question, the cheating thing, right?
The reason why when a woman cheats it's a problem is because now you've effectively demonstrated that I can't ensure paternity.
That's why men have an issue with girls that are hoes.
That's why a guy can't look at a video of his girl getting smashed.
That's why men have a deep repulsion for women that are promiscuous.
Because we can't assure the kid is ours.
On the other hand, a dude that can fuck a bunch of girls is attractive.
Why?
Because women are followers.
They're group thinkers.
Going to a nightclub where all the girls are concentrated with two or three guys.
Men that can attract women are attractive.
Women that have sex with a lot of men are not attractive.
We are not the same.
So that is why if a man has a woman, we don't ask for much.
Be pretty, don't be a pain in the ass, be submissive, and don't be a fucking whore.
So if you go and you cheat on me, you violated one of the biggest issues.
Stop interrupting.
That you violated one of the biggest things that you're supposed to stick to.
That's like me going ahead and marrying you and then you find out I'm gay or I was supporting another woman the whole time.
I betrayed you as your husband because my job is to protect and provide for you.
Men break into the house.
I don't defend you.
I let you die.
That is the biggest betrayal.
So you just said that was wrong for you to cheat.
You basically just agreed to the fact that it was wrong for you to cheat.
No, no, no.
I said with a gay guy.
I said with a gay guy.
No, you also said by betraying my patrol by being with another woman.
No, with another.
No.
We're giving resources.
That's why she's got the word bastard.
Providing.
Providing.
I'm giving another woman a home.
Like, you're my wife.
You're my wife and I'm giving...
So if she's just a mistress, it's fine.
Before you respond, listen to what I'm saying.
You gotta listen to what I'm saying because you're just talking a talk now at this point.
I'm telling you, you going out fucking another guy is like me giving a whole other lifestyle to another chick when you're my wife and you're supposed to get that or dudes break into the house and I don't defend you and I let you die.
That is the same level of betrayal.
Men and women have different traces to bring into the relationship so we look for different things.
Me cheating doesn't have the same negative consequences as you cheating.
If you cheat, you can get pregnant by another guy.
We're fucked.
Right?
If I go cheat, hey, it's another chick that's pregnant.
It doesn't really affect you that much.
That is not true.
I don't think that's true.
Alright, but anyway, go ahead.
What are you going to say?
What I was going to say was I was going to bring out the word bastard.
By you having sex with another woman and bringing out a child, why is that child not as good as the child that you made with the woman that you decided to be with?
Because it's a bad thing.
So now that child has to grow up in a world where they're considered a bastard.
No one wants to...
Especially when you go back into the medieval times.
They were literally treated like...
I don't want to say shit.
But crap.
So that's a bad thing.
So at the end of the day, it's still the same thing.
That wasn't the argument.
The argument was you were trying to conflate male promiscuity and cheating with female promiscuity and cheating.
And I'm saying it's not the same at all.
Exactly.
I'm giving you no type of remedy to be able to say that that is okay.
It's not okay.
I said that it's much different when a woman cheats.
It is much different, but at the end of the day, a sin is a sin and bad is a bad and negative is a negative.
You can't say your negative is greater than another negative.
A negative is a negative.
A woman cheating on her man is the highest form of betrayal that you can do as a female.
A man cheating on his woman is not the same level at all.
No, no, because I've literally displayed that men and women are not the same.
We have different roles.
And I've displayed the fact that both cheating is cheating on both sides regardless.
So regardless, if you want to be a 70%...
From the female perspective, it's worse.
I have a question.
Significantly worse.
Okay, so you lost the argument.
That was the argument that was being made.
You lost the argument because I said simply that...
There was no way into the argument.
Cheating is cheating.
But from a male perspective, the female cheating is far worse.
That's what I'm arguing.
That's in you all's brain.
At the end of the day, cheating is wrong.
I literally just ran from X to Z, Y. Cheating on the female perspective is way worse.
And I feel like I did the same thing.
You did not.
You mentioned bastard kiss.
You mentioned bastard kiss from the medieval times that had nothing to do with the argument.
No, that's still during this time.
I just have a question for him.
That's still during this time.
We just call it a different thing.
A stepchild.
Unfortunately, just because you want to change the name to a certain thing doesn't mean it's a different thing.
A lot of parents do not treat their stepchildren how they're supposed to.
How?
Just because you deem it as no sense doesn't mean that is not no sense.
Who are you to say that is no sense?
Who cares about what they agree?
A lot of people don't agree with you.
You don't make sense.
A lot of people in this room don't agree with you, but at the end of the day, you're doing it as right, so why do you feel like you're correct?
What girls agree with her?
agrees with her that that because do I agree with the fact that cheating is cheating Absolutely.
If you want to bring up the fact that, okay, well, the reason why cheating for women is so bad is because you don't know the father or the mother, like if you're the father of the child.
Well, then if when you go out and have children with another woman, right?
So now you have two baby mamas and only one of them is supposed to be your wife, the one that you're providing for.
When you have a child with another woman, do you or do you not commit to providing for her and that child?
That is exactly what you're doing.
Regardless, because that child is there, you now have to make sure that the mother of that child is okay.
Because if the mother of that child is not okay, that kid is not okay.
So now you are now agreeing.
Yes, I will have responsibility for this woman and that child.
So if you would like to say that it's just as bad, it is just as bad.
You are now providing for that person as well as you connected with that woman emotionally.
You just said that the majority of women don't have emotionless sex.
So if that's the case, then this woman is now emotionally attached to you.
You are providing her with emotional stability whether you would like to believe it or not.
Now she has your kid.
Now you have to provide her with financial stability.
What's your argument?
Your argument.
What's the argument that you're rebutting right now?
Because you want to say that it's worse for women to cheat because of the fact that you don't know if you're the baby daddy.
It's a higher form of betrayal.
No, it's not.
Wait, wait, wait.
But you're saying that the higher form of betrayal with men cheating would be if you were providing for that woman.
I'm telling you that if you're getting another woman pregnant that you are now required by your own definition of what a man is to provide for that woman.
So therefore, it is just as equally the wrong betrayal.
I was giving that as a functional equivalent, but what I'm trying to say is that...
No, no, no, it's not that.
It's amazing that I have to go into such nuances and explain certain things for you guys.
The point I'm trying to make is that a woman cheating on a man is not the equivalent to a man cheating on a woman at all.
Can I say something?
It's not the same at all.
But using your definition of why it's worse, I just told you why it's the same.
Can you stop in our thing for two seconds?
Can you stop?
No, it's not the same.
I know we do, but yeah, I know.
It's okay.
Who's show are you on?
Who's show are you on?
Is this your podcast?
I don't care.
Don't care about what?
Don't.
At the end of the day, if we have the freedom of speech, you should allow us to speak just as well as you're allowed to speak.
Bitch, get the fuck out, man.
Don't go fuck.
Get out.
Get out.
You don't care?
Get out, man.
Oh, man.
Alright, Chris Castle, I guess.
You don't care?
I don't care either, man.
That's why you're single right now.
She argues a lot.
Keep her.
Keep her.
She argues a lot.
Can I half agree with you?
Girls, get out, man.
Makes ridiculous arguments.
I mean, hey, Chris got annoyed with her, man.
I didn't even kick her out.
It was Chris.
Can I half agree with you?
Bruh.
She gave me a headache, man.
Chat one or two.
Yo, chat one or two.
Chat one or two, right?
Yeah, it is what it is, man.
Yo, yo, Bills, uh, don't you got like a mug chat one?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, shit!
Oh, what the fuck?
Oh, my fucking God!
Oh, my God!
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Is shorts in a store?
What she got arrested for, bruh?
Apparently, that was her secret.
There you go.
Yo, can y'all bring her back in to address that, please?
You know what?
Please!
Please, bro.
Hey, bring her back in real quick.
Bring her back in real quick.
Bring her back in real quick.
Yo, how did y'all have that out there?
That's crazy.
Bring her back in real fast.
Yo, that's crazy.
They said America They want to ask her About her mugshot Oh my god No not the mugshot Fucking god Fucking god You want to You want to Adjust your mugshot Defend yourself?
And then you gotta leave after.
You wanna defend yourself.
Oh, no, this is good, bro.
This shit good, bro.
You don't turn up in the chat.
I don't even care.
You don't turn up in the fucking chat.
I don't care, but Fredo asks.
He's the guest.
That's crazy.
Go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead and explain that mugshot.
You don't gotta take a seat.
You can just, like, say it on the mic real fast.
That's fine.
What'd you go to jail for?
Because I didn't pay a ticket.
No, for real?
That's a lot of tickets if you went to jail.
No, it was actually just one.
No, bring that shit back up.
That shit look crazy.
That look like you stole some shit.
Look at that shit.
Nigga, that don't even look like the same person.
What the fuck was that?
This was actually like two years ago when I had my natural hair.
All right.
Yeah, well, two years ago.
Okay.
She was talking about Chris Watergoin, man.
And she got a fat ass.
That shit's not fat.
That shit flat as fuck.
Are you joking?
You did not just see her hair go fast on your jeans.
Hey, chat.
She a WRL chat.
Let's see what they say.
Amaran, can I ask you a question?
Yo, that was comedy, man.
What?
Somebody has something?
So, okay, I agree that if that's what, okay, you're a successful man.
If your standard is, I can take care of you, but I might go fuck another girl, that's fair, and that's what you, you know, can do.
But I also feel like a lot of things, like the morality of it just goes down to like what relationship boundaries are, because like some woman will hear that and be like, bet.
You're gonna take care of me?
Go fuck who you want.
I won't fuck anybody.
And they'll really like that.
But I feel like that's just kind of like a situation-to-situation thing.
It's not that it's always wrong or it's less wrong when a man does it.
In your situation, it might be less wrong because of the situation you have set up with that woman.
The point I'm trying to make is that men can have multiple women.
It's not a problem.
When a woman has multiple men, it's always a problem.
I've had multiple men.
I've had two boyfriends.
And they liked it.
It's just a situation.
Why aren't you with those guys anymore, then?
I didn't like them anymore.
Interesting.
Yeah, because you know deep down that a man that will accept you having two boyfriends is lower status.
That's why.
It was fun.
The same way all guys like to have, like, you know, every guy has the fantasy.
I feel like every girl has the same fantasy but just doesn't admit it.
No.
The reality is anytime girls...
If you like dick, you want to take two.
The same way if a guy likes pussy, you'd want to take two.
Who says that?
Every girl, they won't admit it.
Absolutely.
Every girl loves gangbang porn.
They just wild.
Oh my god, yeah.
Yo, if you love your man with your heart and feelings...
He put me on to his homie.
That was his fault.
What?
You thought he then.
He looking at you as a doctor.
He loved the fuck out of me.
Fuck he didn't.
He did not love you.
I'm not putting a girl that I love on to one of my niggas.
He was fruity though.
He was fruity though.
And he was a cook.
Okay, there you go then.
There you go.
That wasn't a real movie.
But that has to do with situationally and being okay.
I'm just going to be very, very blunt about this.
You two are sexual deviants.
So...
You guys cannot sit here and use your world view on sex and how women move and everything to, you know, personify how women move because the majority of women don't think the way you guys do.
But that's the thing, is what we're explaining is that they do, we just are, make a profit out of it.
Yo, can I hear it from some of the other girls, please?
- They're not gonna admit, look at all the, like, come on now.
- I'm gonna admit that I'm not a whole person. - Because you keep talking, shut the fuck up so other girls can talk.
- So, let's, shut the fuck up, let the girls talk. - Let's start here.
Do you agree with your sentiments here?
Because I think, honestly speaking, most women think differently, but what do you think?
So, I really, I think, like, going back to the whole standards thing, I think, like, women and men, especially as a woman, me, like, personally, if you can't, like, provide what you demand, then you need to change your standards and your expectations of your partner.
If you expect your partner to have all this extra shit, then you should be able to have all that extra shit, too.
Like, you shouldn't be showing up with nothing but problems, empty-handed, whatever.
So, I don't know.
It kind of goes both ways.
But can you agree, your boyfriend and you have different roles to play?
And as a result...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
With all due respect, you don't make sense.
Because you're a bartender, but you got with a guy that makes significantly more money than you, more successful than you.
You can't bring the same things to the table that he does.
He owns a construction company.
He owns a construction company.
I make six figures.
Okay, but he makes significantly more money than you do.
Because of what?
OnlyFans, right?
No.
No, she's a bartender.
No, I bartend and I model everything, but I don't.
Yeah, but you don't bring as much money as him.
You're not in the same status as him.
How could you sit there and say, if you want a certain man, you've got to be able to bring it to the table.
That's not true.
Women never bring the same things to the table at all.
I feel like you're basically saying that we don't have enough value to you guys for you guys to be able to treat us right.
And I disagree with that.
Because our value is held in different spots, right?
So you are saying that you're supposed to be the provider, right?
So with that being said, we're supposed to be the one who is making sure that you're okay mentally and our kids are okay mentally and our house is put together correctly and that everything around us is not falling apart while you make money.
So if you really want to boil it down, we are making sure everything else possible is okay and running correctly while you guys come home and say, here's the money, do with that what you will, my job's done.
Okay, look, this is another example of women over specializing themselves.
Everything that a female brings to the table typically can be outsourced, unfortunately.
We can say the same thing about men.
I can go and get the same job that you do and make just as much money as you do.
It is totally possible, 110%.
No.
It's not happening.
What I'm trying to say is that typically the things that women bring to the table, sex and taking care of kids and all this, all these things can be outsourced.
You can go get a woman to do all those things, but the thing that a man brings, that masculine essence, protecting, providing for you, giving you that boyfriend energy that women yearn for, having a man because women typically, they're not with a man, they aren't complete.
The reality is, is that you can't get that Paying for it.
But we can get everything a woman brings paying for it most of the time.
I can as well.
Like what?
You gonna pay for a boyfriend?
Absolutely.
If I wanted to, I absolutely could.
What do you think people pay me to do?
Be their girlfriend.
They pay for me to stay there and emotionally support them.
And be the one that they talk to at the end of the day.
That is quite literally what...
So you say you can pay for it, right?
But if that was the case, that would be one of the biggest services for porn stars and OnlyFans girls.
You can't pay for it.
And as a result, you're always looking for love because you can't find it.
Exactly!
Exactly!
It's not genuine love though.
It's a paid service.
So again, you're not getting that...
But you can't pay a maid to watch your kid and give it the same love a mother will give it.
The nanny won't love the children and nurture the children the same way that the mother can.
So if that's patient, then you can go both ways as well.
Yeah, we'll go 50 and up.
Bro, you can't pay for a boyfriend or husband.
The problem is that you have a very warped worldview and you're trying to...
I just have a world view from something that you haven't been able to experience yet.
No, from a slut.
Pretty much.
Exactly.
So if anything, I know more details about this situation than you do.
How many of you here are sluts on the panel?
All of them.
Raise your hand.
Very high.
Three, right?
Four?
Four sluts.
So your boyfriend got a slut?
I'm a slut for him.
So there's three slots on the panel, right?
Question, why don't you want to be a slut?
I've never been the type of person to, like, you can do whatever you want, have sex with whoever you want, do what you want, but me personally, I have never been the type, I cannot have sex with someone who I'm not emotionally attracted to.
Understandable.
Why don't you want to be a slut?
What's the question?
A slut is not a good thing.
Why don't you want to be a slut?
Because I have respect for myself.
Okay.
Why don't you want to be a slut?
W. I just don't want to.
W. You?
It's just not who I am, not how I was raised.
The point is that, like, your standards of what sex and dating should be are irrelevant.
You're a fucking slut.
Now, granted, the girls here on the panel that want actual love and connections have...
Literally, to go to the fucking Chick-fil-A drive-thru and let me give you some head on the way this...
If you want love long-term, you can't be a fucking slut.
I'll tell you why.
Because that man that you actually want, when he sees your past, doesn't want you.
So by default, they're saying, you know what?
I risk my youth and my actions right now to find a man I actually care about that loves me.
You know how many porn stars are married and have been married for decades and have fantastic, well-working relationships?
That's a minority of porn stars.
Well, because some porn stars never want to settle down.
Exactly.
They can't settle down.
That is not true.
There is always a situation where somebody will always accept you.
Whether or not it's your first choice, there will always be somebody willing to accept you.
Hold on, hold on.
You said it yourself.
You said it yourself.
Whether or not it's your first choice, they will accept you.
That's the key.
Your first choice will never fucking accept.
That is not true.
I've had plenty of men.
If I want a man, I got him.
That's not a question.
A sucker.
A sucker.
That is not true.
I try to be completely faithful to me while I'm going out doing my job because at the end of the day, I can...
By the way, a trick, a guy that spoils you, that's not really your type, a guy that's a nerd, a weirdo, whatever, is not what you ideally want.
I used to feel like when I first started OnlyFans, the whole idea, which is true, it doesn't matter in the dating pool.
Everyone's allowed to have their own standards and boundaries.
I wouldn't want to date who's naked on the internet.
Fair enough.
But I feel like, for me, that narrowing the dating pool has made me, like, men who are attracted to me genuinely are sexually deviant the same way I am.
So it's like, I end up in a situation that's happier for me because I am sexually deviant.
When I used to lie to myself about it and try to pretend I don't have these desires, it made me sad.
So it's like, everyone's different.
No, no, but again, for long-term stability and having a family, that doesn't work.
But then also, when you guys say 18 is the right time, you can get the 18 to early 20s is one that's most likely to get wifed up, whatever, right?
When you can get a high-value man.
I feel like you guys have said that.
The younger the better.
Yeah, but what if you're younger and it's like, sometimes you gotta just fucking take care of yourself.
Sometimes your hand is kind of pushed sometimes, you know?
Understandable.
And you'll find somebody who understands that.
Hold on, hold on.
It might not be the majority of men.
I agree.
Your counterparts here had the same choice.
A, I'm young.
I need to make money.
But I'm not gonna go on the internet and show my body.
But that's their choice.
The first time I saw a video of me, I was like, I look good.
The point is, they made a choice not to do it.
And that's fair as fuck.
Every girl should be able to make that choice.
Can I be honest?
I've had OnlyFans before and I just decided that it wasn't for me.
Exactly!
Because that's just not who I am.
Sexuality's fluid.
But notice, right?
You stopped it immediately and said, you know what?
I have a future ahead of me.
I won't say immediately.
I made like four bands and then I quit.
Either way, you stopped it.
The point is that, like, on some level, you say, you know what, for my future, I don't want this.
Yeah, it just wasn't me.
Generally speaking, though, like, you guys' opinions, I get it, but bro, the general population of women are not like you guys.
But I don't want, the same way, like, the general population of women aren't like us, I don't, like, want to appeal to the general population of men.
I want to appeal to a very niche type of man who really gets it.
Because can you guys acknowledge there are men who love sluts, you know?
They exist.
To fuck yeah.
Do someone want to marry him?
You see how Kanye's so proud his bitch is viral off a sex tape?
He loves that and he's still down bad for her.
That's true.
Don't compare yourself to Kim K though.
Like you can't do that.
I'm not saying I'm that, but I'm just saying it's just an easy to explain example.
It's a whole different type of situation.
This is incredible.
This is incredible.
Some people like that piece.
This is really crazy bro.
Can I say something though?
Yeah, please.
If you're a regular hoe, like nobody gives a fuck.
I don't need you for your money.
I don't need you.
If you're a high volume, I don't need you for your money.
I don't need you for your money.
You know what I mean?
A high value hoe?
Are you women flexing your money right now?
I feel like back to what she was saying when she was like, she speaks, she wants a specific type of audience.
That is how specific women here carry themselves.
Like, you want a specific type of audience, that's how you're going to carry yourself.
You want a specific type of audience, that's how you're going to carry yourself.
If you want a high-value man, you're going to present yourself as what you think that they would want.
Or also that just being yourself.
Like, you could just want to be classy and that's what you're going to attract naturally.
The reality is that you guys are not as unique as you think you are.
Women are typically chasing the same small percentage of men.
That's what it really comes down to.
Women are not as fluid and, oh, I'm open to this and that.
There's a reason why so many women are single.
There's a reason why so many women don't see most men and they're invisible.
Women are very picky in who they have sex with and who they hook up with and who they want to eventually have a relationship with.
They want a guy that's tall, successful, charming, charismatic, a bunch of different traits.
The problem is that there's not enough men that have these traits to go around.
And when you end up going into sex work, etc., you significantly limit your ability to find that guy and have him take you seriously.
But at the end of the day, I don't want a man who's not okay with what I'm doing.
So if that's the case, then I have no problem saying goodbye to those men.
But she's already at some level of detachment.
That's a majority of men.
And that's fine, because the majority of men are not going to matter.
The majority of men aren't going to pay my bills, aren't going to do any of that.
So I'm doing what I can, and if you don't like it, then that's fine.
The men that would have potentially done it, the more traditional men that women yearn for...
I have to change who I am.
Can you please stop interrupting?
Holy shit.
Wow.
Incredible.
The traditional men that typically women want that are chivalrous and gentlemen or whatever, they're not going to want a girl that's promiscuous in return.
They're not.
And look, you made a choice for yourself that it's what you want.
Yeah.
Understandable.
But just note, when you get older and you have to make that choice of finding that husband to be with long-term, on some level, it might be the kind of you actually want.
So it's just like...
If as a woman, your number one goal and what you really want is to be a stay-at-home mom or da-da-da-da, then it probably isn't a good decision to go be a stripper or OnlyFans girl.
But if men are de-centered as the main focus in your life and you're like, I'm okay with being single the rest of my life as long as I'm happy and can take care of myself, then it's like...
The key is you won't be.
That's what I'm trying to say.
But what if I like...
You can say that now while you're still young.
I don't know why we're happy to be.
No, no, no.
I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
Because women derive most of their pleasure from a family and children, not from personal success and accolades and money.
Stop.
Stop when girls say that.
You like girls on the side, maybe with a man.
Most women are not really actually lesbians.
You guys say you're bisexual, but you do it for a guy.
That's fucking cat.
The point is...
Again, you guys are sexual deviants.
Who cares, okay?
Most women don't necessarily...
Okay, you're a full-on lesbian?
Speaking on men, yes.
Are you going to marry a lesbian?
Sorry, a girl?
I feel like...
Hypothetically, I could change my mind, like, in the future, but for the most part, I've never had a boyfriend.
You're going through a phase, man.
I've never had a boyfriend.
Going through a phase.
I will happily be in a fucking relationship with a woman.
Yeah, you're going through a phase.
Me married to another sex worker would be so beautiful and, I think, very fulfilling.
And, man, out of the industry, I just want to help girls in the industry.
Well, statistically speaking, those relationships never work.
They have the highest domestic violence and highest divorce.
I guarantee you, if you surveyed them in a closed room, in a closed environment...
They hate themselves.
They're depressed and they hate their lifestyle.
Do you think, how many men are married to a woman that's wife material and goes cheats with sex workers and hookers and fuck strippers in the back and all these things behind her back because he pretends to be happy with a wholesome woman but deep down craves a slut.
Like that whole like, what's it called?
Yeah, but who has the title in the home?
And the kids.
See, this is what I'm trying to say, that women aren't good long-term thinkers.
This is what I mean when I say y'all are not good long-term thinkers.
The reality is women derive pleasure from a family and children, not necessarily success in making money.
And yeah, you can have your funny now, the majority of women want a family and children, okay?
That's just a biological urge that most women look for.
And here's the thing, you guys are young, you can say stuff like, I'm not looking for that right now, blah, blah, blah.
But as soon as you turn 24, 25, 26, 27, you start to get older, you get closer to 30, you're like, damn, I want a family and children.
What the fuck am I doing?
And then you're going to start to think, yo, career, fuck that shit.
I want family and children.
That's what women typically want.
So when you end up being a porn star, doing sex work, being a stripper, etc., you limit your ability to find a man that's going to take you serious, that can give you that.
There's a reason why girls since childhood want to walk down an aisle in a white dress and have a bunch of their peers watching as they get married.
It's because it's a big experience and women know deep down that their values derive from the caliber of man that they can attract.
So I get what you guys say.
I don't need a man, blah, blah, blah.
That's just cope, bro.
As you guys get older, I promise you, you're going to yearn for a man to take you seriously.
Sorry.
No, go ahead.
Do you think the smart thing for a woman to do when she's young is if she meets a young successful man or older successful man who can take care of her would be to settle down and do the smart thing while you're still young?
Yes, because that's when a woman has the most...
Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You asked me a question, I'm answering it.
My bad.
I went down there.
It's not just a yes.
It's a yes because that's when you have the most negotiating power.
But I would also say, in a way though, isn't that more wrong and manipulative and ho-like to pretend to like a man so you can marry him for his resources than be more direct with the transactionalness of it?
Because it's transactional.
You didn't exchange for money as a diamond exchange.
We're not saying to make it a transaction.
We're saying to make genuinely you like the guy who likes you.
There's a connection there.
Do you think that's most 18-year-old girls that they really do like that older man?
Well, first off, we'll just go with a random guy that has money.
That's dumb.
Yeah, that's dumb.
But I feel like men think there's just so many amazing, chivalrous men with so much money that when you're 19, you're going to come, usually they're weirdos.
You know?
They're fetishizing the fuck out of here.
Don't go with them then.
It's simple.
But there's a lot of them.
You know what I mean?
That's the majority.
The majority of men are not like that.
Majority of men are not like that.
What's your point here?
That was my point.
I mean, okay, well, okay, by your own argument, it's a minority of men, right?
So, if that's a minority of men, and you already know that, and you're young and you're at your prime, why do you think being a sex worker and getting older is going to increase your likelihood?
I just think I'll find, like, if I was to settle down with a man or a woman, it's going to be someone who really understands me.
I would rather not be settled down with men who would be grossed out by my sexual history than...
I'd rather be single at that point.
That's 99% of men are going to be grossed out from your sexual history.
But then 99% of men aren't meant for us.
A lot of men would be grossed out by my unconsensual sexual history.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, if I... I would need someone who's understanding that way.
Let me ask you all a question.
Let's say, I say, you know, man, fuck this shit.
Quit doing a podcast.
Sold all my shit.
Got rid of all my money.
And said, you know, I'm going to be homeless.
I'm just going to chill.
I'm going to hang out in front of the 7-Eleven.
I'm going to not shower.
Not going to really go to the gym anymore or whatever.
I'm just going to go ahead and be me.
Fuck it.
I don't care what nobody thinks.
Do it.
Would it be delusional of me to expect women to like me still?
Yes.
Yeah, because you can't provide anything for yourself.
Oh, okay.
So why is it that women are porn stars and think that men are supposed to accept that bullshit?
Because, first of all, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
Y'all not see what I just did.
Hold on, stop, stop.
Stop the show.
Can I answer your question?
A woman that's a sex worker is the equivalent to a homeless dude that ain't doing shit for himself.
But you would never expect that.
You would never respect that.
That is...
He deserves a bad bitch.
No, that is...
He deserves a bad bitch.
No, that is...
He deserves a bad bitch.
You might find a bad bitch who wants to save you.
You have a rich sex worker who wants to save you.
That is logically incorrect.
Girls, girls, girls, girls, girls.
Listen, listen.
My head hurts right now, so it's a chat.
We have a ton of chats to read.
Yeah, we do, actually.
This point, and let's move on, alright?
It is a functional equivalent.
A woman that's a sex worker is like a homeless dude.
No, it is not.
I'm providing everything for myself.
I'm able to take care of myself and other people in my family.
How are you going to equate that?
Okay, let me ask you a better question.
How about this?
Because I want to see where your mind is at, because you're using the wrong attributes.
What do you think is more attractive to a man?
A girl that's 21 and a virgin, right?
But, you know, medium hot?
Or a girl that's 21, makes $100,000 a year, but is a whore?
I could tell you that if you're attracted to a virgin, you're idolizing small children and that's a weirdo.
Answer the question.
I just answered it.
You're being a weirdo if you are fetishizing a virgin little girl.
Shame.
That is weird.
Shame to conform to her standards.
And what's interesting, because I purposely gave the age, yet she chose to not acknowledge that.
Because who are virgins?
Realistically, who are virgins?
Children.
As an adult, nine times out of ten, you're not going to be a virgin.
You're not going to be a virgin.
Can you please answer the question?
What do you think men are going to find more attractive?
The girl that makes the money but has a promiscuous past?
That depends on the man.
If I line up 100 men, what do you think are they going to find more attractive?
I can tell you if you line up 100 men and they're in front of me, they're going to tell me it's me.
No, because they want to fuck.
Absolutely, they're going to lie.
Your pussy is not that important.
Don't be a bum-ass nigga with no fucking money.
That's the only time your pussy becomes important.
To a nigga that has money that gives pussy, your pussy is not that important.
It's not that important.
Okay, again.
I promise you.
This bitch is the most wifey girl I've been with her a long time.
She puts every meal in this area.
Your pussy is not that important.
What?
That's a wifey girl.
Thank you.
Okay, we're going to move forward.
Yeah, this is amazing.
Well, no, no, no, but she knows the answer.
The answer is the man is gonna go Because I'm literally 20 years old and I'm a virgin like I Men can be attracted to me simply because of that fact, but also just because of the type of person I am And the fact that I've never been touched.
I'm not experienced.
Yeah, I don't necessarily think that's like a grooming situation.
I just think that's like, oh, she respects herself.
That's the woman I'm going to marry.
She gets it.
You don't respect yourself, but that's your choice.
You are the exception.
That's why I said the majority.
The entire time we're talking about the majority, we are the exception to everything that they've been saying.
Shut the fuck up, please.
I'm serious.
Wait, wait, first.
I'm breaking the fourth wall here.
Stop over-talking people, okay?
Shut the fuck up!
Damn!
So real quick, by the way, just don't tell guys that you got OnlyFans from 4.
Oh, that was like years ago.
Anyway, going back, because she didn't want to answer the question, but I'll go ahead and...
You know, how about the guys on the panel?
Guys, 21 years old, 100k, but she has a lot of bodies, or 21 years old, broke, but no bodies?
Broke no bodies.
Broke no bodies, right?
The majority of men do not have as much money.
Be quiet, be quiet.
Y'all are successful.
We're asking the men here.
Guys in the back, which one y'all going with?
The broke no bodies, right?
Broke no bodies.
Okay.
So, because you were flexing before, I got money and I can take care of people.
What I'm saying, men don't give a shit about that.
We don't care about your money.
At all.
The guys that don't care will use and abuse you and they just cheat anyway and leave.
I don't think you realize that.
I don't think you realize that.
No, I do.
But because I provide for myself, that's what makes you guys having money.
It's me.
I don't give a fuck.
The guys that want to use your money and your resources, they're fucking bums.
And then same If women are using you for your resources, then guess what?
The bitch is a bum.
I can provide for myself, which means when I look for a relationship, I'm not willing to take care of me.
I'll take a bum.
Most men, hold on, most men will take a bum that isn't a whore over a chick that's a hoe that has money.
Period.
And that is not making enough money to feel that way.
Exactly.
That's completely up to you.
Your yelling is annoying, god damn.
Please stop.
We've got some more chats here, quite a few.
Derek the Trader.
I'll read them.
Okay, Derek the Trader, question for ladies, and you name three things you are willing to give up to obtain and retain the man of your dreams?
Bro, they're not giving a shit, bro.
Yeah, they're not giving...
I mean, y'all heard from the conversation, bro.
Yeah, King Chris.
What's it?
Where are we at here?
King Chris?
Okay.
Red tape, welcome to Fredo's Island, baby.
Hey, shout out King Chris, man.
Ladies, if a man dressed like a gay guy, spoke like a gay guy, was surrounded by gay guys, will you assume he was gay?
If so, how do you think it is fair if men assume the opposite of women that were surrounded by hoes, dressed like hoes, acted like hoes?
Interesting.
He's right.
If she's not a bunch of ho, she's probably a ho.
The majority.
Correction.
The majority.
Let's not say every time because it's the majority and that's what the conversation has been the entire time.
It's the majority of sides.
There's always an exception of things, but I do feel like, yeah.
Okay, IRS says, tell diabetic pussy that I drank enough pineapple juice that we can get through the scene without her needing her insulin.
I need insulin for juice.
You fucked it up.
Okay.
Okay.
We got here, IRS goes, question for ladies, what is the biggest lesson you learned in your last relationship?
Don't post them on social media.
That part, because now everybody wants your name.
Never again.
Alright, we can go through the table with this real fast.
Everyone think of the biggest thing you learn from your last relationship, then I'll come back and ask that to everybody.
Think of one.
Okay, where we at here?
Johnny Banana.
Johnny Banana goes, blessed to have found this podcast.
I'm a virgin, 30 years old, and I don't have my shit together in any of the important aspects like fitness, money, and women.
Where should I start first?
What should be good?
Path, guide, much love to all of you.
Start watching the pod, bro, and figure out a way to make money, and then you better get your fat ass in the gym.
Yep.
Nicholas Hope Peon goes, Glad this podcast exists, Ryan.
I love hearing what you have to say.
I hope more people...
Kristen?
I think he means listen.
I don't agree with absolutely everything, but definitely the majority of the West needs men like you.
Keep the great content advice, bro.
We're doomed.
Make it happen.
Ladies on the panel, where do you see yourself in 10 years?
I don't know if you want to know that.
I'll tell you!
Myron, use the pencil and paper analogy.
Show them how beat up that coochie really is.
Oh man.
Luxury Clothing says, Hey Myron, my boyfriend and I watched your show together religiously.
He's literally the Myron 2.0 of holding me accountable when it's getting annoying.
He suggested getting the same soundbar so when I say something stupid he could play a sound effect.
Stupid!
Well, it's probably annoying because you do a lot of stupid shit and you annoy him, so stop doing stupid shit.
It's very easy to keep a guy around, ladies.
Bender the Offender, ladies, what do you think the median income is for the average man?
Okay, you know what?
I could go real fast on that one.
What do you think the average income is for a man in the United States?
Average?
Yes.
Per year.
If you don't know, say month.
75, 80K. Okay.
What about you?
With minimum wage, I feel like would be average, I would say maybe $20k to $30k a year.
Okay.
What about you?
$60k, $65k.
Okay.
$35k, $40k.
Okay.
Average, probably like $40k.
Alright.
Like $50k.
Alright.
Like a cool little economy's kind of fucked up.
Maybe like a cool little six figures or something.
100,000?
100k?
Okay.
Alright.
I would say anywhere between 85 to 95.
Interesting.
And then we have it on screen.
Yeah.
I was pretty close.
I was too old.
The average is $38,000.
And it depends where you're at, but somewhere between $30,000 to the low $50,000 is the average income.
So, yeah.
So is it fair to say the average man can't provide the type of things you speak on providing when you have these expectations of women?
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, the average man can't a lot of the times provide for the average women.
Which is why he's saying our selection is so low.
Because already people can't do that, and then with us doing what we're doing, we're narrowing our selection even more with the people who are supposed to be able to provide that.
So why was you arguing earlier?
I disagree with it.
I disagree with it, but I'm able to understand what he was saying and acknowledge it.
I can still disagree with what he was saying, and that's why.
She said a word to that.
She's like, damn, bitch.
Sorry, was I not supposed to be able to understand somebody else's point of view?
I thought that was the point of a conversation.
But you talk too damn much, man.
Relax, man.
Here's the thing.
There's a difference between understanding a point of view and debating and then arguing in bad faith.
You've been making a bunch of arguments in bad faith.
Yeah, a lot.
Is the reality is what it is.
And you know that you've been doing that.
I don't know if you're just trying to get a rise or whatever, but in the process of doing so, you made yourself look like you have lower IQ than you might have.
Man, shit, annoying as fuck, man.
Her voice is so damn annoying.
I'm so sorry you feel that way.
I mean, I'm just telling you what the chat is saying, man.
The chat is annoying as hell with you.
Shut the fuck up.
Chris, pick it up.
Nah, Matt, you fine, man.
Honest ratings for these Muppets.
He's giving Jay a four.
I think that was a black girl that was here, right?
Dickana, a four.
My name's Dayana, thank you.
Well, he called you Dickana.
Lella, a four.
You just paid money to watch me on fucking camera.
Lana, a three.
Freshest Cousin, a four.
Nami, a 3.
Aladdin's hoe, a 3.
Caitlyn, 1.5.
And then we need the lie detector test more.
These shermutas will sweat like a dog in a Chinese restaurant.
I don't know which was me.
I don't know which was me.
I want to know.
He gave you...
What did he give her?
What's my name on here?
She's Nami, so a 3.
Damn, she do look like Nami.
Nami from One Piece.
The live action.
Honestly, I feel complimented by that.
The three didn't affect me.
Okay, thank you.
Okay.
Okay.
3 out of 10, she's happy with it.
Okay.
What else do we got here?
Marian Subconscious.
He goes, ladies and men rank from the most important to least.
Looks, 20 to 80, 100k a year.
Emotional investment, compare results, and then be surprised.
What a nigga.
No, my subconscious aren't that unclear.
Goddamn.
Resign that one, man.
Just clarify for us, please.
W, my black queens and the other girl are 304s and just want to feel bad about their 304 activities.
Ladies, can't slash aren't supposed to sport fuck, men sport fuck, women do, women that do are disgusting.
Anybody want to respond to that?
I think a lot of men have that mentality, but then a lot of times cheat with the women they say are quote-unquote disgusting.
And I think it says something about your spirit.
That don't mean we want to keep you long-term, though.
If you come to what makes life for us, you come to things you don't respect, it's kind of weird.
That's just a fuck.
But why are you going to fuck somebody that you think is disgusting?
I feel like women are disconnected from their sexuality, even the way the world teaches us, you know, in the same way men are, just in different ways.
You just said it.
It's sport-fucking.
There's no meaning behind it.
Okay, the way you guys got to where you are in life, I assume, is discipline, right?
Isn't it weird to be able to have all these different things, you know, maybe lose sleep for goals, you know, skip meals while you're down bad, trying to focus on a goal, but then you have no sexual discipline.
A woman you love so much, you can't even, you have to hurt her because you need your nut?
Who hurt you?
Wait, wait, wait.
So you're saying that I'm hurting you?
No, not me.
Yeah, who hurt you, man?
So what are you arguing here?
I'm just saying is, like, kind of going back to the whole thing, like, men can have multiple partners, et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah, it's, yeah, why is it, oh, just okay to be sexually undisciplined?
Like, you can have all these other different types of discipline.
So I didn't work my ass off to get to where I'm at for you to tell me what to do as a man.
Would you tell a woman that that's the expectation?
Because for me, I don't even think it's wrong.
At the very beginning, if they know the truth, why am I going to lie about it?
Then I think that, because that's what I said to him earlier, I feel like it's like, it's one thing to deceive a woman, like you're the only one, and then cheat because you make money, and versus, I can pay the bills, but just know I'm going to do this, and I don't want you to do anything.
I agree.
Because a lot of girls will be down for that.
They should know up front what it is.
Sorry.
Please.
You say that, but that's the men that you women are fiending for.
Like, the same men y'all talk about how they make the money.
Like, that's the niggas y'all look for in y'all relationship.
Like, he gotta have his money.
He gotta have his shit right.
He gotta work harder than anybody else to get what he got, but...
Still talk shit about when they sleep around, but that's what y'all want.
I'm okay.
If a man fully understood me, because I feel like I'm a hard person to understand.
If a man fully understood me, it's okay.
As long as he works hard, I can make more than him.
I don't really care.
I understand me being a sex worker means I have different expectations.
I understand that.
I do sex work.
If I can have different expectations, I don't need a man who makes so much more than me.
I don't care.
As long as you understand me and make me feel fulfilled.
And that you're not a complete bomber.
Go ahead, bombers.
You literally just can't do to yourself when you said that I respect him, but he gotta have more money than he gotta provide for you.
No, I said a lot of girls want that.
I said not me specifically.
So you don't want it.
You don't want a nigga with money who got a job, who worked hard.
It does not make or break.
It doesn't make or break.
I wouldn't want to be with that man if I knew deep down he viewed me a certain way because of what I do.
Because that wouldn't be worth the emotional trauma of being with someone like that for years, even if they provide me a lifestyle.
I'd rather be with a man that gives me a less lifestyle that truly understands me.
Can I ask you a question?
And you've had that before, right?
Men that you didn't really have success or whatever, but they're gone now because you didn't really see the benefit in them long term, right?
I mean, it was a lot of different things.
I can deal with almost anything because everyone has their own faults.
Just tell me the truth.
If you tell me what it is, then that's me.
You're giving me the choice to take it or leave it, and I respect that.
But if you don't give me the choice, then I have to walk away.
But would you want a man that's in the same situation or in the same lifestyle as you?
Would you want a man that came from the same background as you?
Yeah, that would be true.
That would be pretty cool.
I feel like that's one of the easiest ways to find understanding.
Would you still want to be with that person?
I wouldn't mind being with a guy who does content with other people.
Trust me, you don't know what you want, obviously speaking.
But again, when you get older, you're going to figure out really quickly what's important to you for the long term.
But yo, we've got some more chats here, by the way.
You want to say something?
No, it's okay.
Go ahead.
Continue.
No, no, go ahead.
Say what you want to say.
No, no, it's okay.
It's okay.
All right.
707 goes, at least two are getting Frank Castle tonight.
All 304s need Jesus Christ as king.
Fair enough.
Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.
We got one.
Wait, what?
Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.
Frank Castle.
Jesus is king.
What was that?
Hooker Beast.
Hooker Beast goes, ratings from Fresh Tomorrow and Undercover Trans, one.
Lil' Kim Light, two.
Chucky's Bride, three.
Anne Frank, three.
Count Blackula, five.
Carrot Top, three.
Jada, don't pick at Smith, three.
Great Value, Swift, three.
And then Expired, two.
What the fuck?
Wait, I think it's Chucky's Bride.
Chucky's Bride is blind.
I'm just Chucky.
I'm trying.
Who's Chucky's bride?
I mean, they're both crazy.
I don't know.
Isn't you Chucky's bride?
I don't know.
The guy that was here earlier, the other girl?
No, the one in the black.
What?
The one right next to you now, Frank.
No, no, no.
The one in the black.
No, undercover trans was the one that was next to me.
Yeah.
Earlier, okay.
They called her?
Yeah.
Okay.
I was just trying to make sure I wasn't the undercover trans.
The criminal?
Yeah, the criminal.
The criminal?
The criminal.
Hucker Beast, 20 bucks goes...
No, no.
Same one, same one.
Oh, okay.
304, like...
What do we got here?
Three or four lines.
It's comical watching them try to justify hoe behavior.
Learn to take accountability.
Also, shout out Alfredo.
Been a supporter since 2K days.
Shout out to you, bro.
I'm a hoe.
I'm taking accountability.
Absolutely.
Never once have I denied it.
We heard you loud and clear.
Yeah, loud.
How about not take accountability, though?
Right.
We're not lying about it.
You guys are trying to say that being a hoe for a woman is the same as being promiscuous as a man, and we're trying to say that it's not the same.
Because that's just our opinion.
Yeah, that's just our opinion.
Your opinion is incorrect from a biological standpoint.
It's hard to tell what's nature versus nurture, though.
I feel like that's acknowledged.
It's science.
Okay.
Where's the science?
I explained it earlier.
We can only...
Your explanation isn't a biology book.
What?
It's nature versus nurture.
You know, it's like there's certain things in life that are a balance of both.
Like, yes, there's biological predispositions, but then the environment you're in also affects it.
So it's both.
Yeah, but the reality is biological predispositions don't predispose women to be sluts and promiscuous.
Most of the time if they come from a healthy household.
But then a lot of times, think about the whole Catholic schoolgirl complex.
That was my type of situation.
I came from an extremely healthy household.
But the teaching of don't be a slut, don't be a slut.
The number one thing is don't be a slut so that a man will want you.
It kind of instills you to act the opposite way.
Do you want to say something before I say something?
I was like, I'm going to go off topic a little bit.
You saying how don't be a slut so a man can want you.
You were saying how don't be a slut so a man can want you.
Well, that's what you were saying, the Bible says.
Not that you believe it, but that was a statement that came out of your mouth, is what she's saying.
So, like, if you want to go back a little bit in slavery, like, these women's getting raped all the time, but their husband wanted them just for them.
They didn't need to be no this and that, no loyal.
They were still getting raped, but their husband wanted them because they're them.
But you have to do what again?
Say that again?
Say what part again?
What you were just saying about how you have to be on, you know, not having sex to have a man wanting you.
It's for a specific type of man, is what I was saying.
Like, I feel like people match.
Like, sexual deviant people will end up happiest with sexually deviant people.
You know, a woman who doesn't like to have random sex, a man who wants a wholesome woman, da-da-da-da, if...
It's just a compatibility thing.
When I was saying that, I wasn't saying that's my specific instance, but yes, I feel like as a woman, if you want a very specific type of man who's traditionally masculine and has traditional values, then it doesn't make sense to go be a sex worker, like, you know, pick your side kind of thing.
I'm confused.
Well, I mean, you made a bad line, but at this point, you guys' opinion is crazy.
Women in general are attracted to the traditional conservative roles between the genders.
That's what women are attracted to in general.
And then going back to what I said before.
Huh?
That would be like learned.
Not necessarily.
Because society tells us that this is right and this is wrong.
It's not learned.
Because women are naturally attracted to a man that's a leader, that's dominant, that's assertive, etc.
These are all traditional conservative values.
Because we were learned that that's what men are supposed to do.
No.
You don't think men are taught to be desensitized?
Right.
What?
You don't think men are taught to be sexually desensitized?
No.
Men are naturally sexually desensitized.
Like, kind of a harsh example, but like, you know, the way...
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You guys do realize that your own industries prove that men are sexually desensitized.
You guys make money off of shooting pornography.
There's a bunch of dudes whacking off to you guys having sex.
If I was to flip it the other way and make women the consumers of porn, you guys would be bankrupt tomorrow because women don't have the same natural proclivity to large sexual access.
Women are way more selective on who they want to see have sex.
Men are not.
So, what do you mean?
Like, men have a natural tendency to want to be promiscuous and are physically more attracted to things and proclivity to promiscuity, etc.
It's not women that do that.
It's men.
I mean, girls do watch porn.
They're just less open about it.
A minority.
Significantly less.
I don't think minority girls will not admit to it.
I feel like I've been friends with girls for years, then after fucking four years, they admit they've watched porn.
My point is this.
Your friends are not the majority of girls.
If you relied, if you guys right now as sex workers relied on the female dollar to keep the porn industry up, you guys will be bankrupt tomorrow.
Well, girls don't spend on it because, like you said, it's way more easily accessible.
That's my point.
So women don't have a natural proclivity to be promiscuous like you're trying to argue.
Men do.
Women don't.
I mean, like...
There's a difference between, like I said, full circle.
I haven't been the most extremely slutty person in the last year of me doing this, but it's all public.
That's whole shit.
It's all on Twitter.
That's the whole shit.
It's not even me having a bunch of bodies as much as the accessibility to look at it.
You guys can be promiscuous, but what I'm saying is that you gotta understand that men and women are not the same, and a promiscuous woman is not the same as a promiscuous man.
It's ridiculous to me that you guys are even trying to make this argument.
Like, for a man, it's not learned to be promiscuous.
I think our argument isn't about men or women being promiscuous.
It's about the wrongness of it.
Your argument is that women being promiscuous is more of an evil.
Shut up, bitch!
It is.
And our argument is that it's not.
100%.
Bringing home gonorrhea to the woman who had your child.
I think biologically...
Y'all don't get your dick sucked.
I gave it from a biological perspective that you can only have one child per year, but I can literally have thousands upon thousands.
I was gonna say, it just comes down to whether, like...
You do extreme paternity, like being a man and you just out here shooting in women or like you being a woman and it is two different things.
There was not also as many STDs back when we have so many, we have new STDs coming out.
MGen, there's a new one that they put on the testing panel.
I was like, you know, so maybe it was more natural back in the day.
We're more underpopulated for men to go impregnate a bunch of women with a woman at home.
But like now you can risk bringing some stuff back.
You can fuck her with a condom and she can give it to you through her throat.
You completely missed the point that I tried to make.
I mean, because you're saying it's not wrong.
I'm just trying to come from a different perspective why it's wrong.
Maybe if it's not wrong for the sex itself, it's wrong for the health.
What I'm saying is that a promiscuous man is not the same as a promiscuous woman.
Period.
That's what it is.
A man that can have sex with a bunch of women is respected and valued.
A woman that has sex with a bunch of dudes is not respected and valued.
It's not the same because men have to earn the ability to fuck a bunch of girls, but you don't have to earn the ability to fuck a bunch of dudes.
It's very fucking simple.
It's simple.
Like...
What the hell?
It's amazing to me that I even have to explain this shit.
Bro, this bitch has diabetes and she's still making money off that shit, man.
You're not that slimy.
It's not banking, man.
Okay.
I mean, right?
It makes me more memorable.
Okay.
If a nigga had diabetes, right?
That's how this ugly-dive-bake man like me.
I'm not sure, man.
If a nigga had diabetes, right?
This nigga was like, oh, this nigga's stupid as fuck, man.
What the fuck is going on?
She comes out of the...
You know what?
That's a good point.
That's a good point, bro.
That's a beautiful point.
That's a good point.
I mean, that kind of proves that, like, yeah.
Bro, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
That's your angel.
I'm a bitch.
One C! You know that one?
You get insulin.
I mean, diabetes, whatever.
No, I get diabetic subs when I'm like, you know, came on the insulin plan, I'm talking about...
Suck this diabetes, nigga!
Half the sex work is sex and the other half is killing, understood.
Because the one thing you can't outsource that women provide is the emotions.
You know, when men go through a breakup, they don't cry and cuddle with their homies like girls do.
Wait, so how do you convince niggas to eat your culture if you said diabetic?
It's sweeter.
Okay.
Oh my god.
Can you move forward, man?
Yeah.
God damn.
I'm talking to you, bro.
They couldn't say anything to that response.
If a woman was a serial killer for five years, if a man, okay, if a male was a serial killer for five years, can he say, I'm not a murderer anymore?
No, he can't.
Just like if you were a hoe, then you will stay a hoe.
I feel like you can have a realization.
You can have a what?
You can have like realizations like you could be like doing like certain stuff like that are considered like whole activities and then like you can be like oh like I don't feel like having like meaningless like encounters like it's just not fulfilling and then you can like change yourself accordingly.
Yeah but a title will still be there.
You was a hope.
Once upon a time.
I was a hope.
Thank you.
Call me since.
Listen, you can have a change of heart.
You don't want to do better, but guess what?
The years you spent being a hoe, the patterns you built in habits and actions don't really go away.
So you may think it, Your heart might think it, but in reality, your actions might come back to you at certain points of your life.
Let me ask you a question.
If you were with a guy for like a year and you loved him and he was great and you guys were in a relationship, but you found out that he was gay in the past, would you stay with him?
If he was gay in the past?
Yeah, and he used to suck dick on camera and shit.
Should you stay?
I mean...
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ladies, ladies, I'm asking her.
If I'm loving him, like, that's my man, that's my man.
Yo, you're really gonna stay with him?
Can I ask her?
That's my man.
Like, what he just said, like, but you will love him still, but when he runs homeboys, you're going to watch him, right?
A lot of niggas.
I'm up for sure.
I'm going to be like, do I peep something?
That's true.
You was a hoe in the past, and I got to watch you.
Even though you loyal to me now, but your past is up here with me.
That's fair as fuck.
That's so true.
That's fair as fuck.
If you know she has bad standards for men, and she'll fuck anything, keep an eye on her.
That's fair.
That's fair.
By the way, new update.
Apparently, Diddy settled the lawsuit already.
He already settled it?
Yeah, apparently.
Fuckin' do it, man.
So, that's crazy.
Castillo shut the fuck up now.
He probably gave her that 30M. He said, hey, shut up, bitch.
Wow.
Okay, what do we got here?
That's how you know that shit was a lie, bro.
This is just about the money.
Makani.
Aloha, my ninjas.
I have to say the amount of coke from these bimbos nowadays is astonishing.
Floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee trying to avoid cannability, especially that garbage juice 304.
Oh, goddamn.
And then where are we at here?
Oh, and then three seats from fresh.
God bless those kids.
It was the girl with the braces.
Because the other girl left.
Wait, you have kids?
No, she's in daycare.
Because I'm a preschool teacher.
If you have kids in her class, please take them out.
See, why are you talking about my sex life with little children?
Because I used to be a teacher, man, and the way you talk right now, I bet you those kids are like, what the fuck?
Did I talk about my sex life with little children?
Why am I having conversations about my porn?
Are they deaf?
Are they deaf?
Again, I'm not having these conversations around small little children.
If you're having conversations about your sex life around little children, there should be something to reflect on.
Just here you talk, what I'm saying.
Because here you talk, it's just like fucking piercing, bro.
Like, sometimes you just need to touch the fuck up, man.
I love that.
Can we start teaching these girls that the plural form of woman is women?
It's not womans, it's women.
How the fuck y'all not even know how to address yourselves in groups?
Who said womans?
Who said that?
No, you're just dumb as dirt.
I think it was the girl that, the criminal, I think, called it womans.
Enigmatic Nomad goes, Black lady next to Fresh looks like she's shaped like a midget.
Oh, the one that...
Wait.
Is it the criminal?
Criminal, yeah.
Cool.
Go get it.
Shout out to Fresh and Fit Podcast.
I'm literally 5'5".
Like a fucking amateur.
What?
He's not talking about you.
Who is he talking about?
He means the girl that was here before.
Remember, these are older ones.
Shout out to Fresh and Fit Podcast.
Everyone who contributes.
I have a question for ladies.
Why do y'all think y'all raising your voice and shaming a man would make you win a lot more intelligent to win an argument?
Okay, I do have an argument with that.
Me raising my voice is definitely not in, like, a way of, like, trying to be dominant or anything like that, but when I'm getting talked over, that's, like, I'm not necessarily trying to pull, like, I don't mean it to be in a way that I'm trying to pull control or anything like that.
It's like, I'm talking, and then if I get talked over, I feel like I have to talk over them to be able to...
Exactly, dominance.
It's more so like feeling, like wanting to be, yeah, felt heard, like rather than like, I'm trying to shut you down.
That's so true, but at the same time, that is a control, like thing, like you're trying to control the situation.
It definitely can come off of that, absolutely, but that also has to do with perception.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, so tell me, as a teacher, right, if you're talking to one of your students, right, if one of your students yell at you or they're louder than you, what would you tell them?
Tell me.
Tell me.
I'm not just...
Answer the fucking question.
What would you tell your student, right, if you were talking to him or her and he was getting louder, what would you tell your student?
It depends on if he's being disrespectful.
Because if you're being loud in a way of being negative rather than being passionate about what you're talking about, you can have emotions with what you're talking about and it'd still be okay.
But if you're yelling at me to try to shut me down in some way, that's when it's not okay.
And that's what I just explained is when I'm...
Exactly.
When I talk loud, it's not in a way of trying to shut anybody down and say that you're wrong.
So yeah, two options.
Either listen to the kid when he's talking or tell him to shut up.
Simple as that.
I was just going to speak on that because when he voiced out his opinion, you shutting him down, he's passionate about what he's saying.
So listen to what he's saying.
And then have your reply black, you know?
Talk like grown-ass men and women that you are, you know?
Exactly.
I think conversations are way more interesting when you can talk with people you completely disagree with and not make it disrespectful.
And I also think it's way more effective when you, like, don't have to necessarily, like, raise your voice to get your point across.
Because then you start acknowledging where you agree with each other.
Because then once you start getting too loud, I stop listening because now I feel triggered and I'm not, like, I'm not listening anymore.
like Difference women and women is that women are controlled by their emotions because I might be saying that's something that's factually correct But you don't want to hear it because it hurts your feelings or you don't like the way it's being said like Men don't really care about how information is presented.
We care about the content of the information.
Women are more concerned with how it's presented.
There's a logic versus emotional.
Okay, well, I mean, whose fault is it that they can't control their emotions?
I'm not saying that.
I feel like it also just has to go with being respectful towards somebody.
I think a girl woman should regulate her emotions.
I'll be extremely honest here.
You guys have been wrong on a bunch of things.
I'm saying, like, men versus women is logic versus emotion.
Like, women naturally go with their emotions when they're feeling something.
And logic prevails.
Men are going to logically think.
Yeah, that's true.
When you really think about it, if you get an argument with somebody, a man specifically, and you sit down for five minutes, you could be like, damn, he was actually correct.
I really was just acting off of my emotions because I was upset.
Yes, you guys have been wrong during the entire course of this conversation.
To be honest with y'all.
Because when we talked about male sexuality versus female sexuality, you guys are trying to equate the two and the two are not equal at all.
If you look at it from a biological standpoint, a societal standpoint, a religious standpoint, however you want to slice and dice it, Female promiscuity has never been respected or admired in human history, ever.
With any civilization.
You could be all the way in Asia with Ling Ping, or some Africans in Africa, or some niggas in South America, or some dudes up in Russia.
Female promiscuity has never been respected or admired anywhere.
So how are you gonna sit here?
It hasn't been admired in the way that it's been socially accepted necessarily, but at the end of the day, sex work is one of the longest...
Exactly.
People will always yearn for a physical need.
No one is arguing that it exists.
No one is arguing that it's a part of society.
What I am saying is that it's something that is not respected by society from every single walk of life before the advent of communication.
Can you be quiet for two seconds?
How is it that Asians in China, right, in feudal China, also didn't like hoes just like dudes in South America?
It's because female promiscuity has never been respected from all different walks of life.
So I'm not saying that it didn't exist.
I'm just saying you guys trying to sit here and rationalize a promiscuous woman is the same as a promiscuous man is ludicrous.
Like Mary Magdalene, the reason they say she's a prostitute is because the temple she came from, it wasn't street prostitution.
It was like a worship thing.
Everything is perspective.
Everything is cultural and how we're taught.
They were literally poems written about these women for being hospitable and open to different people.
That doesn't change the fact that they were not respected.
They were respected.
They were brought gifts.
Did you not just hear what I said a second ago?
Female promiscuity has never been respected.
It existed, but they were always lower class.
No one gave a shit about it.
There weren't women that were marriageable.
There weren't women that men saw after.
It wasn't for men either.
It was more so like, that's just how it is, and you guys don't really get to have a say.
What do you mean?
You just have to accept it.
Men being out there, being sluts.
Men can be a slut, like you just said, and it's okay, but it's not okay for a woman to be a slut.
Because men have to earn the ability to be promiscuous.
That's why.
You keep forgetting that.
But that's not true because men are born with that.
What you just said, going along with what you just said, going back to time when men couldn't sit here and make all the money and everything like that, you guys were still very much inclined to be promiscuous.
You're missing the point that men have to be able to have a skill set to be promiscuous.
We can't just exist and have sex with women.
It doesn't work that way.
Men have to earn the ability to do so.
That's why it's respected.
There's definitely broke, confident men that get way more pussy than they should.
Okay, but hold on.
But you're missing the point that that confident guy had to probably go to the gym, work on his looks, work on his charm, work on his charisma.
He might just be naturally built a certain way and he's just maybe pretty in the face.
Naturally built?
Some guys are like skinny and girls like skinny and then they're just like maybe pretty in the face.
Bro, it's sad how many girls will give pussy to these bummy ass men because they're attractive.
It's true.
They'll get a lot of pussy and have nothing going on.
Most guys are not naturals.
Most guys struggle with women.
I mean, guys, you literally are in the sex industry.
Your entire base of people that watch y'all Or men that struggle with women.
You are able to have a lucrative career off of men not getting laid.
This is ludicrous that you guys are even arguing this point.
Because you're arguing a majority point with people who are not the majority.
We are the ones that see the opposite side of the minority.
We're the ones who live that lifestyle that you're talking about.
So we're being able to provide a perspective from a different point of view that you're arguing with.
But the minority is statistically insignificant.
What percentage of women are actual porn stars, like you guys?
I think women are boys and sluts and they're just being more open over the years.
But how many of them are professional...
I was going to say professional prostitutes.
I don't know the statistics for that.
But professional sex workers, it's a minority.
So your opinion, your experience, unfortunately, is statistically insignificant when we talk about the masses.
But it's been growing crazy over the last couple of years.
It doesn't matter.
It's still statistically insignificant because most women are not sex workers.
I feel like OnlyFans...
I think a lot of women have done sex work secretly on the side.
There's one guy in their Instagram DMs that they sold a little something to because he offered enough money.
A lot of these girls have done sex work and they'll never tell a man.
OnlyFans is becoming a very much more common.
The thing that you're like, most women shouldn't be this.
A lot of women...
They have been that and lie about it.
You're moving the goalposts.
I'm simply saying a promiscuous woman is the same as a promiscuous man.
I don't care what you guys want to say about this and that.
It doesn't matter.
A promiscuous man is respected.
A promiscuous woman is not.
Simple.
Done.
You can't argue that, bruh.
What?
By you and men who are like-minded to you.
No, by a majority of society, there's a reason why a lot of girls here don't subscribe to your lifestyles.
Because they know it's going to ruin their ability to find men in the future.
Because they sent their men in their life.
Well, that is a big part of what makes women happy.
Family and children.
I center myself.
What?
My life is not based on what a man thinks of me or what a man to think of me.
It's different to not be sexual because I'm not sexual to get a husband.
Wait, wait, wait.
But when you said that you stopped having OnlyFans.
I am by choice not having sex.
That does not mean I don't want to have sex.
I'm just not because I haven't found that person.
When you were doing OnlyFans, you said that you stopped because it wasn't for you.
Right.
That's you centering yourself in the middle.
If you're stopping because it's affecting your possible relationships in the future, that's you putting men in the middle.
She just said she wasn't doing it.
She said she was centering herself.
Right, and I just acknowledged that for her.
Sorry, to her.
I mean, again, it doesn't.
The promiscuous woman is not the same as the promiscuous man.
I know you guys are going to fight on that, but I mean, it's just not the same.
You guys are arguing just to hear yourself talk.
Alright, we have rumba rants.
Alright, let's go.
Okay, can I get a Don DeMarco?
It's my birthday too today.
Shout out to FNF Discord.
We up WMO, Bills, Fresh, Myron, WChris.
Y'all changed my life around with WIC2. Shout out to you.
I gotta mention, this as well, by the way, shout out to Detox for getting Pretty Boy Freight on the show.
Oh, yeah.
Ladies, why do you think you deserve in High Value Man?
Fresh, let's go with the shorty Leia Ray.
This is our prize tonight.
I think it's time we make our debut on Bang Bros.
Or she can make her debut on your new website, Mandingoed.com in partnership with OnlyFans.
Leia's about to get her uterus twisted tonight.
Make the move, Fresh.
Yeah!
Get this thing up, bro.
Them are always wrong, even when they are sure they are right.
Yeah.
I mean, the girls here, Ben.
Go get them first.
Did I just get a shout out?
They all rationalize the real world into their own reality because they are so fragile and hate pain or discomfort.
Everything they do is about instant gratification.
They lack forethought and the concept of real accountability.
I lose them.
They only care about how they see themselves.
I mean, that should be the only thing that matters, it being my life.
I wonder how many women he's fucked in the last year.
Right?
A lot.
Name three countries.
They think we're stupid as fuck.
Name three countries.
No repeats.
Shout FNF. Love y'all.
Chris Wants a D to a double white dumpster.
Bum W. Chris Lander.
Yo, you know what?
Let's start right here.
Canada, North America, South America.
And you can't say what the other girl said.
And you can't name United States, Canada, or Mexico.
Shoot.
Europe.
Okay.
I'm not gonna lie.
Geography is literally my worst one.
I genuinely don't know.
Genuinely, geography is my worst one.
This is why I know you do it for the show.
Bro, I cannot even fathom arguing with some of these girls.
Can I go again?
I'm admitting that geography.
Goddamn.
That doesn't mean I lack situational awareness.
Yo, bitch.
Do you know where you live?
Do you know where you live?
You know where you live?
You can't say it.
United States of America.
I couldn't say that.
You guys told me not to say that.
You can't say that.
You can't say that.
You're right.
United States of America.
But you guys don't know where I couldn't say that.
You have to walk.
You can't say that.
You guys are coming at me from the United States of America.
You guys are the ones who told me I couldn't say that.
So, talk about it.
No, no, no.
He got it.
He got it.
I'm a PhD.
Alright, Miss Israel, please name three countries and you can't name Israel.
By the way, she is a teacher, bro.
Yeah, I know.
I'm a preschool teacher!
I'm a preschool teacher!
I teach kids 1, 2, 3, ABC! Stop teaching!
I don't fucking teach geography to these kids!
Stop teaching!
Oh my god!
Spain, England, France.
Yeah, she knows, man.
What about you?
Hold on, don't let me down.
Island people, don't let me down.
Three countries.
She's been doing so good, too.
Let's see.
You got this.
Don't be shy.
Come on, man.
You got this.
Like, I'm upset.
Bruh.
I don't want to start wrong.
Go ahead.
I ain't going to say that.
El Bahamas.
Whoa!
You can't do that!
I know, we're trying.
I am.
I'm going to try.
Cuba, Philippines, Japan.
Alright.
Okay.
What about you?
You would.
What's a republic?
Ireland.
Alright.
Is that wrong?
Venezuela.
Good job.
Just because it's a republic doesn't mean it's not a country.
It was a joke, my bad.
It made y'all laugh.
I'm gonna be so real, you can't ask me about that stuff.
I really don't know.
I was gonna say...
Wait, try, try.
I was gonna say Spain.
Okay, okay.
She said it.
Alright, try it.
Antarctica?
I've been to London.
That's like a city, though.
You said what?
London?
I said that's a city, though.
Yeah, okay.
Where's London located?
Yeah, where?
That's crazy It's in Europe But somebody said that Europe's the continent that London's in Yo I know you You know it Yo, sweetheart You're thinking too hard England England England, you got it But no, my face to you though Just stay on the pole I'm gonna do it And I'm gonna start my business
What about you?
Dollar and the dream, right?
Three countries, please.
Scotland, Norway, and Mexico.
Guinea, Mexico.
One more.
Ireland.
Uruguay.
You know what's funny?
The girls that argue the most with me couldn't name three countries.
I did!
I don't know who told you I don't know shit about geography.
I needed a second to think.
These had seconds to think about it.
That was just the first thing.
It was the easiest because you have like 170-something to pick from and you still fucked up.
North America, South America.
She said North America, South America.
Oh, man.
Yo, I ain't gonna lie, man.
Bro, y'all be arguing with me.
Some of y'all dumb as fuck try to argue with me, man.
Y'all can't even name countries trying to sit here and tell me about male and female biology.
Like, what the fuck is going on, man?
Yo, okay.
Goku to go.
This is why men got to be in leadership roles.
And honestly, this is why I think women shouldn't be voting.
Like, yo, they should be taking a test.
I don't want to vote.
I don't like jury duty.
What?
Yeah, man, this is why a female vote should be 50% of the vote, man.
Female vote should be 50% of the vote, man.
Like, goddamn, this shit crazy.
Fresh, or unless they have, like, certain things in play.
But anyway, I talk about this more on Twitter.
Go on, unpluggedX, guys.
Fresh, you said black people have lower IQs.
The African's okay, but I saw you on the show stuttering so hard your hand was shaking you were born in a toilet.
First off, I never said that.
Ever said that.
And two, once again, bro, like, no one here is perfect.
I have my issues, of course, but like, bro, black people are not stupid because of IQ. Yeah, facts.
They're not.
Iconic Films goes, can a woman who considers herself independent be in a marriage and expect it to be worked since in a marriage they have to learn to be independent of their spouse and not compete about money?
Men don't care.
Okay, I think that's for you because you guys kept flexing that you make money.
Okay, Al Depe?
Okay, shout out to Tim Pool.
Question, do you guys think most women deserve average traditional men, let alone a top 10% man?
What do they offer to earn that let alone average man if Hoflation is the average woman?
Alright, next.
Nah.
Well, well, strong.
I think most women don't even deserve a husband, to be honest with you, man.
Most women don't deserve the guy that they want.
If I'm going to be all the way 1,000, women's standards are way too high for what they bring to the table.
And they don't know what they want either, too, so.
Yeah.
Myron, please, put the preschool teacher outside the window and relive your inner early days.
She pissed me off.
Oh, I see what you did there.
Eden is a hooker in Orange County.
Look up Naomi Nasty on Human...
Wait, what?
Who's that?
Who's Ethan?
Who's Ethan?
I'm Ethan.
You're a hooker?
What?
No.
In Orange County?
No.
How do they know that you're from Orange County?
I said I was from Orange County.
She said, yeah.
She didn't mention it.
What the fuck?
So, yo, for real?
Bill, you know what to do.
Or, actually, Chris.
Confucia says...
Oh, go ahead.
Somebody say something?
No.
I was saying, come of some young boy.
Have you ever been arrested?
Me?
No.
Swear.
But sometimes though, I will say, people take pictures of people and they create a profile on these websites that's not them.
Yeah, my news are all over the internet.
That could be it too, but who knows?
Oh, you're fucked, man.
I hope they're making money off me.
Diabetes.
Confucius says it's good to meet a girl in a park, but better park meet and grow.
Thanks, Confucius.
Demon next to Fredo looks like Dustin from Stranger Things mid-transition.
Oh!
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Marin, I have a girl, I have a friend who was a fan of your show who broke up with his girlfriend two months ago but still has her pic with him as a profile pic.
Please talk to him for 20 so I clip and send it to him.
Keep it up.
I mean, stop being an idiot, bro.
Like, you're a fucking retard if you're doing that shit.
She don't like you no more.
She'd probably suck at someone's dick right now as you got that picture on the profile.
Facts, son.
Come of some young boy.
Yeah, women get over relationships way faster than y'all think, bro.
Trust me.
I'll take women who should not reproduce for $400, Alex.
Okay.
Kobe goes, Ho next to Fresh.
Look like a great value.
Bob Marley.
Stop yapping.
304.
Oh, it was a black girl that kicked out.
You use words like regard incorrectly.
Ignorant as fuck.
Making a fool of yourself in front of 20,000 live viewers, bro.
I know.
So she is basically saying supporting your own children and baby mothers is just as bad as taking care of someone else's child and baby mother.
That's from Superior Mirror.
Joke goes, someone tell anorexic Dora the Explorer to stop interpreting.
She annoying as hell.
You're as crazy as I am anorexic.
Thank you very much.
God damn.
Do you know who the who is?
Kobe goes 304 on Fredo Wright.
Oink, oink.
Get that double chin in the gym.
God damn, bro.
Yeah.
I guess you would need some sugar.
Okay.
First, Evercold.
Cockholster?
I'm sorry.
Being loud doesn't make your opinion valid.
Quit being a nigga.
Second, that donkey mouth with bob cut needs to shut her cockholster.
This donkey mouth be doing a whole lot, let me tell you.
What the fuck?
That's not a flesh.
Oh, yes it is.
Damn, they caught us sticky.
Levon goes, you're a cum dumpster.
It's repulsive.
I would marry an ugly virgin before you.
Go take a bath, you sticky motherfucker.
You're our consumer.
If you say whatever you want, I am that cum dumpster.
That's what gives me lots of money being that cum dumpster for you.
Thank you.
Yo, that nigga was ruthless.
Sorry.
Abilos goes, just wanted to reward that woman for calling that annoying child out.
Why are you arguing then?
Priceless.
Shout out to Bahamas.
Council that dental plan.
Lisa needs braces.
Asshole out the door.
Yeah, he's talking about the poor star.
Goddamn, holy fuck.
Myron and Fresh keep doing your thing.
These braces bring in a lot of money too.
Don't know you do it.
RIP my headphones.
Do you have anything you want to say back to Chris?
These braces are actually a commodity.
I get paid a whole lot of money for just my braces alone, so my bills are paid for my dentist work.
Thank you.
Com-modity?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, what else do we got?
Are we caught up?
Streamlabs.
Okay, all you bitches are fives on a scale of 1 to 10.
Some of you are pushing the limit and saying you deserve a high-value man, especially you black queens and OF girls.
You bitches are the last ones who should be talking about relationships.
Shut the fuck up.
I want to take pictures of these men.
I want to take pictures of these men.
Who are you to be telling me I'm ugly?
Yeah, I bet these dumb hoes can't name three books, though.
Hey, do it.
Do it.
Nah, man.
That is going to be a L.
We're going to be here all night.
It's actually my favorite book.
I'm not gonna lie.
I don't read a bunch, but flowers in the attic is awesome.
Saif Ali goes, these bitches sit and tell us how they are gonna make your house a home.
And in their 30s and 40s, they want us to take their ran-through pussy, their other kids and their cats.
Mug shots go crazy.
Shiatendo body positivity.
Okay.
Oh, God damn.
Okay.
Guys, like I said before, we're going 50 and up from this point forward.
Yo, Fred, do you have a question for the panel?
This is a unique panel of girls, man.
God damn.
Yo, Fred's like, what the fuck?
Yeah, this nigga's like, what else?
I don't know.
A lot of shit crazy as hell.
I'm tired of hearing Dora to explore.
I want to hear some other shit, man.
No one else is participating, to be honest.
I actually showed up multiple times.
I sat there and listened.
Thank you very much.
All you have to do is call me out.
I mean, 20?
Yeah, you're going to regret all this shit in life.
Six, seven years, you're going to regret your whole fucking life.
I promise you.
That's totally okay.
But you got to think about that, though.
Seven years if you're smart with the money.
That's the thing.
I think you can build a life in those six, seven years you're smart with money.
A lot of girls do burn out.
Why don't we talk about Trisha Paytas and all of the bullshit that she does online, how many times she's gotten canceled and how much people think that she's a piece of shit and she still makes a fucking living.
That's insane.
Because I'm great at what I do.
That's why.
That's fucking disgusting.
It's actually a great flex, in my opinion.
That is not a flex.
Okay.
That's your opinion.
That's okay.
How much do you make per month doing porn?
I'm just curious.
Off of mainstream or OnlyFans?
Just in general.
How much do you make?
I'm just trying to see if this shit is really worth it.
Probably between $30,000 and $40,000.
That shit ain't worth it, bruh.
That's crazy that you think that.
Conserve your pussy, bruh.
You got so much time.
You're only 20 years old.
Wait, wait, wait.
Conserve your vagina, man.
Wait, but we just looked up what the average income is, right?
And it's $38,000.
I make that in a month.
Yeah, but about $25,000, your pussy ain't gonna be worth it.
You're telling me that it's not worth it.
She's gonna be a MILF. Exactly.
Actually, the very first scene that I ever did was with a 60-year-old man.
And then, as well as I've done scenes with 50-year-old women as well.
Age has nothing to do with you being important.
It's about your performance and the way that you look.
My dad is 66.
This is crazy.
It's about smell.
Healthcare, man.
Can you spin the wheel, bro?
Yeah, you want to spin the wheel?
Icy, can you go set it up?
Actually, we'll have Icy spin it here in a second when we can get a question.
Do any of the ladies have a question for the panel or the guys before we do the spin the wheel section?
I want to think of a good one.
Right?
Y'all had all that shit to say before.
Like, do you need a hug?
I guess, like, you agree with the point.
I'm curious if you two agree with the point of, like, what I said, like, about his standards and stuff.
I think that's ethical as long as you tell the woman what's going on.
Or do you think that's just okay to be the expectation?
Say it again one more time.
Like when we were talking about how men will have multiple sexual partners and that's natural, I said I can agree with that expectation of the woman being loyal and you fucking other people if that's what the woman consented to in the beginning of the relationship.
Right, like that should be a conversation.
I feel like that should be, I feel like that used to be mentioned because that's the difference that makes it wrong.
It's not cheating if she knows.
If you said, hey, you'll live here, I'll pay the bills, but just know I'm going to fuck other girls, how is that even cheating anymore?
We were talking about cheating, that's not cheating.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Yeah, I agree with that also.
As long as, like, if your partner's cool with it and they know what's going on and they're able to, like, protect themselves and prepare themselves for what's happening outside of your marital home, like...
Yeah, like, I feel like any type of sex life is fine if everyone knows what's going on.
I think it becomes wrong if people don't know what's going on because STDs can kill you.
You know, STDs, and even if they don't kill you, like, they just...
You guys talk about STDs so much, bro.
You guys do realize that, like, it's the women, typically, that, like, transmit the diseases, right?
A lot of these, a porn star, she's gonna get tested every two weeks.
Sometimes a girl, she's only been in relationships, but her men were all fucking right behind her back, and so she's had gonorrhea for two years.
It's the women that are promiscuous.
It's not, the dudes are not out here smashing like you guys think.
You do realize that, like, one in three men is, like, a virgin or hasn't had sex in a year, right?
I graduated high school.
None of y'all on the panel are virgins besides maybe her and I'm even questioning that.
So the reality is no chick is really a virgin.
Most guys, a lot of guys are though.
Like a lot of guys struggle.
One of my good friends that we're really close, he's my, like we're the same age and he's still a virgin.
He's still...
And that is why a man that has sex with a lot of women is respected and a woman isn't because it's hard for men to get laid.
You guys don't get it, man.
Like most guys literally struggle with women, bro.
And you two should know that the best.
You guys make a bunch of money.
You think you'd be making 40k a year if niggas were out here fucking?
No.
But that is not 40k a year.
40k a month.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
We knew what you meant.
Sorry, I meant to say 40k a month.
But do you really think you'd be earning that kind of money if niggas were out here fucking?
That's a good point.
No.
But that also has to do with, like, you said, like, anything that it can be paid for, right?
Like, people can't pay me to be their girlfriend.
Yes, they can.
If people can pay for sex, like, it's...
Maybe he's not out here fucking for free.
What are you arguing right now?
I don't understand what you're...
But he can very much still fuck for money.
Yeah, but it's...
That he may be struggling with women and like an organic...
Yeah, guys can go ahead and pay for prostitutes or whatever, but the point is that most women don't view most men as sexual options.
That's just the reality.
So that's why guys that can fuck a bunch of girls are respected.
Like, it's very simple.
Alright, we're going to spin the wheel?
Yeah.
Alright, cool.
Icy, we got Icy in the back.
She's going to go ahead.
Yeah, I think your mic is on.
She's going to go ahead and spin the wheel for y'all.
You guys hit the music when she spins it.
And then Icy, you're going to read the questions.
And these questions actually come from the supporters.
You guys actually came up with these questions.
So let's go ahead and see.
Y'all got to break your necks.
I'm going to read it out loud.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't worry, ladies.
I'm breaking on that grew horse.
Go ahead, I see.
All right.
It's slowing down.
We on the purple or blue?
Purple.
What's one thing you want to improve yourself in a relationship?
So basically, what is one thing you want to improve in yourself in a relationship?
I think someone asked this question earlier, too.
Something similar.
So yeah, this is actually going to be good.
One thing that you would improve yourself in a relationship?
Sex.
Okay, let me start with Savannah, Georgia first.
What's one thing that you need to improve in your relationship?
You actually have one, so what do you need to do for your construction guy?
Um, I suck at saying I'm sorry.
I'm not...
Taking accountability?
Yeah, I'm not very quick to apologize.
Why not?
Just because my own bullshit, my own temper, and the fact that when we get into an argument about anything, I need a minute.
I have to remove myself from the situation and just kind of collect my thoughts and collect my feelings and kind of like...
Play that argument out in my head and argue both sides of my logic and my emotions before I can really decide.
Even if I am sorry, I'm not the type of person that I don't want to say I'm sorry if I don't mean it.
I'm not going to apologize to you just to save your feelings.
Curiosity, you said your guy runs a construction company, right?
He's a six-figure earner?
Yes.
And he's a bodybuilder?
Yes.
He's over six feet tall?
Yes.
Who do you think has more power in this relationship, you or him, or who has more value?
I think we share it equally, but I think...
Okay, let me stop you right there.
He has way more value than you, and I'm going to be honest about this.
You should treasure that man, because you've got a 1% guy, and the fact that he's with you and you're in your 30s...
You should be happy with what you got, because most women struggle to find a guy, and that guy has more value than you do in the dating marketplace, unfortunately.
I'll take a step further.
You should sit a start on your knees.
Yeah, facts.
Literally.
I usually do, after the fact.
Good.
Good, good, good.
But I'm just being, because the thing is, girls tend to think that they're the prize in a relationship, and once you reach a certain threshold of man, you really aren't the prize anymore.
And the guy that you're with is way rarer than you are.
I'm well aware.
Okay, good.
So, treasure that guy, man, because...
He's very taken care of.
Okay, good, good, good.
And don't get mad if he has sex with another girl.
Yep.
Um, yeah, no.
I'm just being honest with you.
I'll be on the news.
He's gonna fuck another bitch.
If he's over six feet tall, makes that kind of money, bodybuilder, etc, I promise you he's gonna smash another girl.
Just be ready for it and accept it.
Men that make money, fuck other chicks, man.
Not that one.
Okay.
I feel like she's safe.
Downstairs.
She said bring him up real quick.
Well, just so you know, when he's off the leash, he's biting.
I have his location on my phone.
So you're crazy, crazy.
Just not stupid.
I mean...
That part.
That's fine.
Well, he's stupid.
Come on, man!
I appreciate what you got.
That's all I'm trying to say.
That's a very rare man, and you're lucky to have him.
What about you?
Something that I could improve on?
Well, I'm not in a relationship, but...
What do you think you can improve on to get one, then?
I don't want one.
I'm very focused on myself and bettering myself right now.
Okay, hypothetically.
What's one thing you can improve in yourself?
Or what's a complaint that exes have had about you?
Or it could be nothing.
I would say one thing is I could be a little wholess.
No.
Possessive over my man.
Okay.
I feel like that's a good thing to work on.
Alright.
Very much like, where are you at?
What are you doing?
Like...
Yeah, I could be more trusting.
I don't trust a person for shit.
I mean, you work at a strip club, so I mean...
Well, yeah, that's different.
But I feel like if you're in a relationship, like, sometimes it's harder for me to, like, trust.
Because I'm a very loving and caring person.
And it gets taken advantage of, like, my kindness.
So I feel like that's something, like...
What could you work on?
I think in general, just being more logical with my reactions towards things, not so emotional.
I feel like a lot of times when you just react based off emotion, it just makes the situation way bigger than what it's not really that serious.
So just trying to be more logical.
Alright, what about you?
I think that, I mean, I feel like women in general have this habit.
I feel like in my last relationship, like, if you're gonna forgive somebody, you can't keep bringing it up.
If you're gonna keep bringing it up, you should probably just leave.
Okay.
Not being petty, I guess.
What about you, Ms.
Bahamas?
I said sex, but not really.
But, um...
What?
I'm lost.
It's not...
I didn't mean actual, like, sex.
I meant, like...
Like you said, having a man who works and, you know, all the time he always working better himself, like...
As a man, I would have to cater my schedule to please him so that he won't cheat on me, you know?
Okay, being flexible?
Yeah, before he go to work, give him head.
When he come from work, give him head.
Just pleasing my man in the best way I can.
Do you think you can sexually satisfy a man by yourself?
Probably not.
You think so?
Absolutely.
How many girls on the thing, just a quick question.
How many of you think you can sexually satisfy a man by yourself?
Green if you think so, or red if you don't think so?
I don't know.
How many of you think you can actually do it yourself?
Okay, so you're the only one that thinks that...
Okay.
The rest of you actually think you're a sexually satisfied man by yourself.
If you could have, he wouldn't have cheated in the first place.
Okay.
You're the only one.
It's interesting.
She's 100% right.
You're never going to sexually satisfy a man by yourself, bro.
That's amazing to me that you ladies actually have the hubris to think that.
Also, as a woman who's more sexually open and gives the opportunity we can have sex with another girl, I feel like some people get off on the cheating itself.
You know what I mean?
It's like your girl's down for you to fuck somebody else.
You can tell her.
But it's not the same fun and adrenaline rush when the girl knows.
Right.
If that makes sense.
You just contradicted your own statement.
What I'm saying is I feel like that's just something men do.
You wouldn't satisfy him.
That's my question.
I'm saying some men.
Not all men are like that, but I'm saying some men.
I don't think that's the majority of men.
I like to think not the majority of men are like that.
Please, before you speak, think about what you're saying.
I did.
No, you didn't.
I did.
You actually thought?
Well, that's really scary then.
Yeah, man.
Goddamn.
What about you?
What about you?
Ms.
Cizro?
Yeah, what do you think you can improve on in relationship?
Maybe I could be a little bit more feminine sometimes.
Maybe my temper also.
You have masculine traits?
Yeah, sometimes.
Such as?
Everyone has masculine and feminine traits.
Yeah, but like, what are some masculine traits that you have?
Needing to take control, maybe?
But I try not to.
What about you?
What do you need to work on?
Definitely, I have an issue with having to be the more dominant person.
What I say is how it is.
We know, we know.
We all know.
You ain't gonna tell us.
I'm trying to take the man's role sometimes.
Yeah, I've just grown up with everyone, like, everyone's just always told me, like, at the end of the day, you're the one who can only ever have yourself, and no one will ever have your back.
So at the end of the day, I need to play both roles for myself, and that goes into...
You're too defensive.
I agree, absolutely.
But that's what, that's...
The question was, is what do I need to improve in?
And I'm taking accountability and saying that I need to improve in this.
I'm not...
You actually believe that, though?
Like...
I feel like you saying it, but you don't really believe it.
To the right person, I will absolutely care about being submissive for them.
Fredo asking real questions now.
I believe it.
I feel like she just saying that.
I don't feel like you really give that rule to a man for real.
But I have in the past, absolutely.
I don't believe it.
You're so single, man.
I'm so sorry.
You're so single, man.
But that means that I've never had relationships before?
Not because you're home, man.
Yeah, I mean like, hey, hey, bro, she's on the front page of P-Hub.
Yes, yes!
What's the category?
Yes!
What's the category?
And I do just about everything.
Annoying, bitch.
What's the favorite category?
I'm trying to look that shit up.
What is it?
You watch!
Anything and everything will pop up.
Incredible.
Alright, what about you?
What do you need to improve on?
I feel like back to what Pink was saying like just like the need to control and like just being also just like dominant like so you're masculine too yeah very masculine like I always feel like I was like the breadwinner in a relationship and that's not like a women's a woman's role like what the fuck but I thought you like girls though yeah I do but that doesn't necessarily mean I don't like just because I'm in a relationship with a woman I don't crave that masculine energy What?
You just contradicted yourself.
If you don't want to be a breadwinner, by definition, that means you want someone else to do it.
That's masculine energy.
What do you mean?
I'm not being submissive because I basically feel like I'm taking care of everything.
But you're saying you don't want to do that?
I didn't say I didn't want to do that.
That was the situation.
She wants it to be shared.
Okay, so basically...
This is an ex-situation.
You were the man with a girl.
No, I wasn't.
I was more dominant in a sense of me standing on things, like me running shit.
Man, shit, what are you saying, man?
I don't know what you're saying, bro.
It's not for y'all to understand.
You guys are asking us a question, and then when we answer your question, you're arguing with what our question and what our answer is.
I think she's just saying, like, when she was in that relationship, regardless of a girl or a guy, she just feels like she was more in her masculine energy.
I didn't feel feminine in my energy.
Hey, listen, take dick, and then you feel feminine.
I feel like when you're being taken care of certain things, it helps put you into your feminine energy.
It brings a different side out of you.
There's two different...
Come on, man.
It doesn't necessarily matter.
Because you could be a woman in here and deal with a feminine-ass man who acts like a fucking woman and doesn't do shit.
It's the same.
It doesn't matter.
We get that.
The gender of the person is the role that they're playing.
So we asked you, what can you improve on?
And you said, I'm very masculine.
Okay.
Okay?
And then you said, it's because I'm the breadwinner, et cetera.
I don't want to do that.
I want someone else that's a breadwinner because I want that masculine energy.
But then you went ahead and said like, no, I don't want that masculine energy.
I was like, wait, that doesn't make sense.
I didn't say I didn't want the masculine energy.
I said I do crave the masculine energy from someone else.
I want to be feminine is what I said.
Oh, so dick.
Ew.
Okay.
I think it's masculine and masculinity and biologics.
Next question.
What makes you a man are two different things.
Yes, absolutely.
Okay, thank you.
It's just something to argue with.
Just try a dick one time.
So I think like as a woman it's a lot easier to get rid of those masculine traits and get rid of those things like I just from my personal experience when When you do like finally meet someone who takes care right like a real Provider a real man like a real provider.
They give you the space to fall back in your softness and be feminine So it's a lot easier to be a feminine and submissive woman when you're with someone who gives you the space to do that That's assuming hold on real quick.
That's assuming they even give you the chance to A lot of times, you act masculine off rip.
I'm like, man, fuck this bitch, bro.
I'm not going to take it.
She's annoying.
You might not even get the opportunity, and women don't even see that.
They're like, oh, I'm nice once you get to know me.
I'm submissive for the right guy.
Bro, I'm not even going to wait around and waste my time on it.
Why am I going to go here and get with you when you're acting like, nigga, what?
I'm soft behind it when I can go get a girl that's naturally feminine.
We probably don't want you anyways.
I don't like you to be masculine men.
I wasn't necessarily...
See, girls don't like it when they get rejected off of it, right?
But if a dude says, man, I'm not into it, oh, you can't handle it.
No, that's totally fine.
If you don't want me, I don't want to be around you.
We're not pressing.
I'm not everyone's type.
Women cannot take rejection.
Y'all reject men all the time for any dumbass reason.
Your shoes don't match.
I don't like your socks.
But if a dude said something, logically said, like, yeah, she's too masculine, I'm good, and doesn't give you an opportunity, well, I don't want you anyway!
That's totally your choice!
I never heard that one.
You got rejected for your socks.
It was a funny example.
Women reject men for, like, dumb shit all the time.
I've seen girls reject dudes because they had an Android phone.
Girls literally reject niggas for the dumbest shit.
Then that should not be the girl that that man is with.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah, the trash takes itself out.
Thank you.
All right.
This is what we're missing, though.
Yeah, we're going to like they're like the queens of like under not understanding the point of what we're trying to make and like totally focusing on something else.
It had nothing to do with it.
I'm not gonna lie, bro.
If not for this podcast, I'll never be in the same room as y'all talking to y'all.
God damn, bro.
This shit's crazy.
Fuck, man.
Vice versa.
We all agreed it wouldn't be much of a podcast.
We're all saying the same thing.
So you're not even here to talk.
You're just here to argue then.
Well, for one, isn't that why you brought exactly what we do when you know that you disagree with what we do?
There's a difference between having a thoughtful debate and discussion versus just arguing to argue.
And you kind of expose yourself when she exposed it.
Like, wait, you agree with what they said, but you're arguing.
No, what I did was acknowledge your guys' point of view.
And again, I can understand where you're coming from without having to agree where you're coming from.
And that's exactly what I did, was explain to you what you're...
Explain by acknowledging your point of view.
Yes, this is what he's saying.
This is how he thinks.
Our point of view is facts, though.
It wasn't an opinion.
When I say things like men in general don't want promiscuous women, or a woman being promiscuous is not the same as a man being promiscuous, that's absolute fact.
That's not an opinion.
Like I said before, I'm not arguing with that men and women are both promiscuous and that it's more socially acceptable for men to be promiscuous than women.
That's quite literally what you were arguing.
No, what my argument was is that you said that men being more promiscuous is less of an evil than women being promiscuous.
And your argument was specifically about children.
And I rebutted that argument.
That's what that was.
Yeah, she did kind of get you with the whole kid thing, because you were saying, well, maybe you can't.
Because I said the whole thing is that men have to insure paternity, that's why men don't like hoes.
Right, and then you said that the reason, what the reason would being for you cheating, being so disrespectful and detrimental to the other women, is because if you were providing for the woman that you're cheating on.
And I explained to you that like you admitted, Y'all can go nut and make a million children in a year.
Women can't do that.
By making a child with a woman, especially with the idealistic views that you have already explained, that means that now you are in charge of taking care of that child and along with that requires that you make sure that that woman is okay.
Because if that woman is not okay, that child is not okay.
Which means that you are now providing for another woman.
Let's go off your argument that you're trying to make here.
If that's really the case, then why has polygamy been accepted in many different religions since the beginning of time?
Exactly.
See, you're trying to argue with me on this, and it's like...
But that also has to do with...
Is history morality?
Polygamy...
No, it's not about history as morality, but we've come to this place based off of history.
And the reason why we're where we are now is because men built the world and civilized the world that you guys get to now enjoy.
And a big part of that is that higher-status men...
That have the ability to impregnate multiple women.
Guess what?
Polygamy has been accepted because women are willing to share higher status men.
But on the other hand, men are not willing to share women.
That's the difference and take them seriously.
So that is why a promiscuous man is not the same as a promiscuous woman.
A man has to earn the ability to be promiscuous and polygamy is an earned ability.
But I think it's taught.
Argument defeated, bro.
Stop.
Argument defeated.
God damn.
Because your whole argument...
You can have multiple kids with blah, blah, blah.
Here's the thing.
Women will accept a man having multiple kids with different women if he's high status.
That's the point.
I think my dude has six kids.
It does not go the other way around.
You know what?
Polygamous men are respected and attractive.
Women that have multiple sexual partners are admonished, not respected.
Whores!
I think what you're saying is, though, earlier, your example of what...
The top betrayal you said of a woman to a man would be giving sex away.
And you said the top betrayal a man could do to that woman is give resources away.
And she's saying the cheating can lead to a baby that would lead to you to be a man having to give resources away.
But women will accept it if the man is higher status.
There's a reason why polygamy has been practiced in multiple religions.
Do they accept it out of love or because they just need to be taken care of?
That's a part of it.
Necessity is a part of it.
But women, right, are able to look past the sex, right, because of resources, etc.
Men aren't.
But women also, like, by looking past it, a lot of these women are subjecting themselves to a lot of emotional and mental distress because they may not be necessarily okay with it, but they feel like they can't say anything and that they have to put up with it because you are the one providing for them.
And that has to do with them not having their own shit to provide, which, again, is what we were talking about with...
You're deflecting the argument.
Because your whole thing was children.
And I said, well, women are willing to accept a man having multiple children with multiple women if they're higher status a lot of times.
Hell, they'll accept it from a bum sometimes.
Because men that have sex with other women are attractive.
Women that have sex with other men are not attractive.
Period.
There's no disputing that.
Okay.
But that's why I say that there's an outlet for everything.
Like, there are men who think that it's incredibly hot that women are out there fucking other people.
That's very true.
A lot of these men are down low cuts.
Because think about it.
Why is porn so popular?
Why is certain porn so popular?
If you're not gay, watch solo.
Watch a girl play with herself.
Why do you want to watch the bitch you want?
I think that it's not the majority.
I think that it's definitely not the majority, but it's not as small as you think.
The course of this conversation, we have spoken about the majority, while you guys have made arguments for the minority.
The majority of men watch porn?
The minority is statistically insignificant.
Like, you guys keep referring back to yourself, and my experience, and I'm a sex worker, and women think like this.
They really don't, bro.
They really don't.
If your average man watches porn, usually they're watching a guy with a bigger dick fuck the girl they want.
That's like cocky.
Just watch a solo.
Watch her play with her solo.
Why do you want to see that?
Let's just do the wheel with Fredo because you're not making any sense.
That completely made sense.
Do any of the other women agree with what the fuck these two girls are saying?
Do you get what I'm saying?
I don't think any other girl agrees.
Do any of the ladies on the panel agree with what they're saying?
I understand.
What exactly?
What are they saying?
I don't understand.
I understand.
I was saying that majority of people are not as many.
Enough.
I'm trying to make you understand.
No, no, no, stop.
She's arguing the same thing.
Ready?
Spinning.
We have time for one question.
Cool.
One more.
Hold on, Fredo.
What do you want to do?
You want to spin a wheel?
You want to ask a question to the ladies?
Whatever the chat wants.
Whatever the chat wants.
Fredo's a man of the people, man.
Fredo's a man of the people asking the right questions, though.
We talked about being able to separate emotion from sex.
John Mann says, so sick of these sex workers saying, there are guys okay with my lifestyle.
Yes, the sex addicts, porn addicts, virgins, druggies, people with personality disorders.
Take your pick!
That means everybody in the entire world is on the table.
You just said mental disorder.
You know how many people have those?
First of all, Chad is saying it's been a war and the cast of the porn star.
That's what they're saying?
Yes, like they're saying cast of the porn star because she talked to them much, I warned her.
And so yeah, I mean, it all depends.
So, chat.
Alright, chat.
Let's spin the wheel and then ask the last question and then we'll close out.
Because we still got to do our next stream, guys.
We've been giving y'all a 3P, man.
Stay tuned.
We're going to go ahead and me, Moe, and Bills are going to cover top 10 or top 20 Red Pill songs on YouTube and Rumble.
Alright, go ahead, Icy.
You got it.
This is the last spin the wheel.
Now I'm just going to call it the...
Alright, what's this one?
I see you wrote it, man.
Stop, man.
Yeah, read, nigga.
If you look back at the stuff...
If you look back at the relationship with your ex...
Wait, hold on.
No, it's not that.
I wrote this mad sleepy at 10 in the morning.
Stop it.
If you look back at the stuff with your ex, would you be proud or disappointed?
There you go.
Sorry.
Okay, so basically the overall relationship of your ex, would you be proud?
Yeah.
We can start right here.
Just a yes or no.
Yeah, I would be pretty proud of him.
Why didn't it last then?
And why?
And why?
Why?
Because she really did, like, despite the one issue that we had, which was financial issues, she really did love me a lot, like, despite what everything else, like, there was a true connection there.
I was that nigga.
Okay.
No, not at all.
So are you bisexual or are you a lesbian?
I've never had a boyfriend, so you can just call it what you want.
I feel like I'm grown and I can do what I want.
There's no need for the attitude.
I'm just simply asking a question.
I'm just saying it is what you see.
I like women and I've never had sex with a man.
That doesn't necessarily mean I can't go out there.
Lie detector.
Well, that's why I was asking you a very straightforward question.
I was like, are you a lesbian or are you bisexual?
I just don't have experience.
I don't need the attitude.
If you're bisexual, say, no, I'm bisexual.
I just haven't experienced a guy.
That's it.
You don't need the attitude, man.
That was my answer.
That was the only answer I could give you.
It was a very attitude-laden answer.
I'm sorry, but that was the answer I gave you.
Wow, you really suck at talking to people.
Yeah, thanks.
What the hell, man?
You gotta work on your interpersonal skills and speaking to people.
I'm that nigga!
Like, what the fuck is wrong with you, man?
What the fuck?
Like, yo, show some goddamn respect, man.
Like, what's wrong with you?
What about you?
Yes.
Okay, why didn't it last?
Oh, my bad.
I think that that's a conversation between me and him, but regardless of why it ended, I still think that I, throughout the bad things, still learned very many valuable lessons, and I would never take back any of the good times that we had.
So, overall, the relationship was successful in the sense that I got what I needed to do out of it.
What the fuck?
Successful.
What'd you get out of it that made it successful?
A lot of lessons.
I learned a lot of things between our relationship as well as a lot of good memories that I have shared with that person.
Who broke it up?
You or him?
I did, technically.
Why?
Again, that's a conversation that's had between me and him and it's not something that I need to put on there.
Bro, there's videos of you getting plowed on camera.
Like, what are you talking about?
Right, but I'm not sitting here and giving out my very personal information about the relationships in my life to random ass people.
You're on a dating podcast.
Yeah, you're on a dating podcast and you literally are doing sexual acts with people on camera.
That is the most intimate thing you could do.
Yeah.
In your opinion.
Your pussy is open.
No.
Right.
No.
Yeah, I know.
Like, I know what you...
I mean, not really...
Chris, how do you know Chris?
No, wait, wait.
I'm saying, I couldn't know.
I don't want to know.
But who knows?
I mean, you had a bunch of say earlier.
This is a very simple question.
And I answered it.
I answered it just fine.
I gave an answer.
I told you.
It ended, but it was successful.
I believe, regardless of any relationship, any friendship, or anything like that, no matter how it ends, it's still successful in the way that you still learn things from it.
I'm not going to say that, oh, because it ended shittily, it was a terrible relationship.
Shitty.
My bad.
It ended bad.
Did you cheat on him?
No, I did not actually.
Were you doing porn at that time?
Yeah, and I personally choose to have open relationships, but that also has to go with boundaries, and that means that you don't get to sit there and make emotional connections with just any and everybody.
That means if you meet a bitch in the bar and you think she's hot and you want to fuck real quick, then you go ahead and you go do that.
You're a porn star.
Yep.
I don't understand.
So if it's okay for me to fuck other people, why would I not be okay with my significant other fucking other people?
So you were smashing other dudes while you were with him?
Men and women, yes.
And he was okay with that?
Yup.
Y'all should have no problems in y'all relationship at all, no problems.
Y'all should be A-1 relationship.
Yeah, if that's the case, yeah.
I think that's why a lot of men will love sluts, is because they're more open to those things.
Why did it end then?
Because of a situation that had absolutely nothing to do with what I do for a living.
It had nothing to do with us hooking up with other people.
Why did it end?
It's a conversation had between me and him.
It has nothing to...
Sometimes it's about the emotional, not the emotional.
Right.
If I'm telling you that it has nothing to do with my career, I shouldn't have to...
If I tell you I'm uncomfortable in a situation, that should be the end of that conversation, right?
I shouldn't have to explain to you, well, my mom did this to me and that's why I feel uncomfortable in this situation.
Just like no is a complete sentence.
If I say no, then you don't get to ask me why I'm saying no.
Okay.
It's just interesting how you had the most to say about everything.
You bust a lot open on the internet.
We ask a pretty simple question.
Obviously, if I had so much to say and it was about something that had to do with my career, I would have no problem saying it.
But I'm telling you that it's a personal issue that had nothing to do with my career and nothing that is public to the world.
So because of that, I would rather remain it not being public to the world.
But you show that pussy to the world.
Again, if we broke up because of my career, I would have no problem saying that.
Due to the fact that it was not because of my career, it is not for me to spread on the internet.
That's not the part of my life that is spread on the internet.
But you show that pussy to the internet.
Again, if the reason we ended was because of what I do, absolutely it would be said.
But it's not.
It's fine.
Yeah, it is crazy.
What about you?
Well, are you proud of your last relationship, yes or no, and why?
Proud or disappointed.
Or proud or disappointed, yeah.
I guess there are things that I'm proud of, and then there are things that I'm also disappointed about.
I could have done better.
Okay, so you're both.
Which one do you think is more dominant in it?
The disappointment or the proudness?
The disappointment.
Why'd it end?
Too masculine?
No, not at all.
I like masculine.
No, no, I'm saying you were too masculine to the guy.
Then what was it?
Just issues.
Trust issues, money issues.
He was abusive?
Kind of, yeah.
How was he abusive?
He was also annoying and not making enough and just depending on me and I could feel it.
So was he really actually abusive or you were just annoyed at his inadequacies?
I found it a little abusive.
How's it abusive for a nigga to not make money?
You can mentally and emotionally abuse somebody.
Yeah, he was kind of verbally abusive.
I felt like I was being cornered in ways.
How is he cornering you?
Well, physically he would corner me, but...
Like, how?
Just to get me...
Ask you questions?
Yeah, but in a very aggressive way.
Interesting.
I didn't like that.
Mentally and verbally abusive.
I'll keep it a thousand.
Girls throw the word around abusive a lot for anything.
I could just say, yo, that was a dumb statement.
That's abusive!
But it's true, though.
I think if you're being detrimental to somebody's well-being, that that's being abusive.
Whether that's mentally or...
Yeah, no one.
Yeah, man.
It's like a term, bro.
Goddamn!
You got a lot to say.
It's like a fire hose that's never turned off.
Yeah, man.
Goddamn.
Hey, listen.
Probably she don't want to admit that nigga.
It's like, yo, shut the fuck up.
I'm out of here, bro.
What about you, Miss Palmas?
Just abusive because he made less than you.
And you said that he cornered you.
He would corner me.
Okay, but what led to that cornering?
What led to that disagreement and argument?
Because I was making more than him, actually.
Did you ridicule and talk shit to him?
No, I would never.
I would never do that.
You didn't nag him?
You didn't annoy him?
I like to get his side of the story.
Yeah.
Because girls are quick to say, oh, he appeals me, he did this, but I was an ass nigga.
Oh, bro, she annoyed the fuck out of me.
She said, I'm a bitch-ass nigga.
She said, I'm a small dick.
I feel like I would never say that.
There's some other fuckers who is actually just like...
Abusive though.
Men are the worst when a girl is taking care of them.
We are not questioning abuse.
That is not good, but any is possible.
When a man is taken care of, he treats her like shit.
Because he feels demasculinized by being taken care of.
Demasculinized?
And when a woman takes care of a man, it makes him feel less masculine, and so he treats her like shit.
When a woman takes care of a man, she's unknown as fuck.
If a girl's a breadwinner?
She's unknown as fuck, bro.
Yo, girls are annoying as fuck when they take care of a man.
When are they not?
Exactly.
Yeah, y'all are already annoying.
And then if you're making more money, then you nag the guy, you treat him like shit.
I take the term you're trying to say is emasculated.
Is that what you're trying to say?
It's been two hours and damn, you girls been annoying as fuck, man.
What the fuck, bro?
Okay.
Alright, are you proud or disappointed with your last relationship?
And why?
Half and half.
My last relationship was six years ago.
Uh-huh.
Goddamn.
Damn.
Sixteen.
Okay.
She belongs to the streets.
Thank you so much for that.
Why are you proud and why are you disappointed then if it was half and half?
Disappointed?
Well, with my knowledge now, not really.
Okay.
Because I was sixteen, he slept with my sister.
Oh, shit.
And my friend.
But...
Oh, shit!
Wait, did he sleep with them after though?
We got a relationship?
No, we was together.
And you slept with them?
Okay.
Yeah.
And then what are you disappointed with then?
If you're proud that he did that bullshit.
See, I was a virgin at the time, and I felt like if I had slept with him, he would have stayed, you know, wouldn't have cheated.
Oh, you didn't hook up with him?
No.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
What about you?
I feel like both.
Like, it probably didn't end up being the most positive thing in the end, but I was glad it happened.
So it's like both.
I'm proud of certain parts.
What are you proud of and what are you disappointed with?
I feel like I felt very seen and understood in that relationship and so it taught me like you know certain things but also like he just did me wrong then you know like the whole thing until being done wrong was pretty positive.
What'd he do?
He was on Grindr.
Oh, he was gay?
Wait, did you say before that you would accept a guy that was gay?
I would, because I told him.
I knew he was bi.
And I told him, because I'm bi, I can go fuck girls, I'll tell you, you can go fuck guys, you tell me, whatever, it's cool.
But he was doing shit behind my back and lying about it when I've given him many opportunities to just do shit in my face.
So it's a lying that bothered you?
Yeah, it's a lying, I don't give a fuck, go take a dick, just tell me about it.
Why does he have to tell you?
Why does he have to tell you?
If you know what's happening and he was open about it, why does he have to tell you?
I mean, because every time I told him he could, it was like, no, I don't want to.
I don't care.
I want to just be with you.
It's like, bitch, you're weird.
I told you you could tell me, so just tell me.
I just showed some weird sick shit going on.
I think that would be more weird if he told you.
You motherfuckers nasty.
That's the point of an open relationship.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of intimacy in an open relationship is from the communication.
I don't know what's going on.
You are so worried about STDs.
Then they can probably give you A's, nigga!
Fuck!
That was the longest I went without having sex was after that.
STDs!
Oh my god!
Yo, you know, honestly, it's interesting that...
I got tested afterwards last time you got tested.
Oh, yeah.
Last week!
Good for you!
Let's hear it!
What about the time before that?
Because sometimes you just so happen to get lucky.
How often do you get tested?
A lot.
Fresh is definitely open.
A whole lot.
That's good.
I thought OnlyFans girls were by the way.
That's good.
So I got to be tested too.
This is interesting.
Because you guys are yelling about communication and stuff.
I want to sound like an asshole, but you guys do realize that we don't really want to talk to y'all like that, right?
Thanks.
Ooh.
You specifically?
No, no.
There's a reason why men say sex, silence, and sandwiches.
I didn't make that shit up.
Like, there's a reason why, you know, you're Hispanic, aren't you?
I'm Guamanian and Hawaiian.
Bless her.
Oh, okay.
She's a full-on American, then, in that case.
Guam, right?
You said Guam?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, anyway.
What I was saying is that there's a...
I know that.
Yeah.
What I'm saying is that there's a saying in Spanish, right?
The more quiet you are, the more attractive you are.
I forget how to say it in Spanish.
Someone can...
Maybe Icy could say it.
La callita es más bonita.
Oh, shit.
Someone else.
You can...
It's not just me saying that.
It's that men in general, we like more quiet women.
We don't want to talk to y'all because we have different life experiences.
We'll talk to our girl every now and then, but women in general aren't that...
So do you prefer conversion?
They're not interesting to talk to you guys.
Do you have more interesting conversations with your homies?
Yes.
Isn't that kind of weird though?
How's that weird?
Do you have more interesting conversations with their homies?
Actually, I'll have you know I make a mean sandwich.
That's great because women Men have more similar things to talk about.
Women are more interested typically in talking about people and men are more interested in talking about things.
Men and women don't have similar life experiences, so that's why we prefer to talk to our guy friends over females.
So if it's just sex and sandwiches, why date the woman?
For sex, bitch!
I mean, if you're him, can't you fuck her without dating her?
That's what a lot of guys try to do, but a lot of guys don't have the ability to do so, so they have to wipe up the girl, because the girl ain't gonna fuck him unless she gets some kind of commitment.
Isn't that manipulative?
Oh, yeah!
Everything about women is manipulative!
Makeup, tits, diabetes...
Everything about females is deceptive.
Makeup, heels, dresses, weaves, extensions, eyelashes, everything that women do typically has.
We don't even know when you guys are on your period.
You withhold interest in us.
Everything about females is typically done in some kind of deception.
Okay, look.
What about you?
Absolutely.
It's the truth.
I also believe like half and half disappointed more because it wasn't the best relationship.
It's the penis.
It was toxic and also like...
How's it toxic?
We just didn't have the same views, I guess, with life and just...
What was his views and your views that made it toxic?
Um...
He wasn't very emotional, I guess.
He lacked that.
Good.
I feel like men, yeah, they're not as emotional as women, but you still need to have some type of emotion.
What's more toxic, an overly emotional man or a stoic man?
It's not even that.
It's just the way you...
They're detrimental in different ways.
It's just the way, like, you are with somebody.
You don't have to be belittling to somebody just because you don't agree with them.
You can have, like, different...
How would he belittle you?
There's no need to go into specifics.
Oh, no, no.
It's important.
Because women like to say things like that.
Sometimes y'all deserve to be belittled, though.
Yeah, facts.
A lot of times y'all say dumb shit.
Like, you're on the course of this podcast and we don't really tell y'all that that's dumb.
But you can say it in a respectful way without having to belittle somebody.
It's about communication.
Your IQ is lacking.
Does that sound better?
Yeah.
That is better than you stupid dumb bitch.
What the fuck are you saying?
Absolutely.
We don't know if he was saying that.
You are a stupid dumb bitch.
We don't know that.
But again, exactly.
You don't know.
So you're arguing the point that he wasn't when you don't know.
Honestly, if I'm going to be all the way, I think we need to tell more women that they're dumb because we don't tell women that they're dumb enough.
We tell men that they're dumb, but we don't tell women that they're dumb at all.
What did he say?
I mean, she is dumb.
Anyways, the point is that it's good because it taught me to live unoffended.
You can be offended, but you don't have to live with that.
You know, just let it go, and everyone has their own opinion.
What did he say?
How he's toxic, though?
What did he say?
How he's toxic?
What did he say?
There's no need to do that.
Just say it, bro.
I'm the type of person, even if it's my ex, I don't wish you no harm.
I'm not going to speak bad upon you.
I wish him the best.
We didn't work out.
I wish we could have ended as friends, but we didn't.
And it is what it is.
It doesn't matter.
See, here's the thing.
And I love this, cause girls like to call men toxic, but they can't actually tell you why you're toxic.
Sometimes even holding a woman accountable is considered toxic.
I'm gonna assume that you are toxic.
Yeah.
Facts.
And I might have been, and I could own this.
But that's what I said.
It didn't last.
No, you definitely were.
And let me tell you why.
I'm not denying it.
Stop the show.
Stop the show.
Stop the show, bro.
Yo.
I'm telling y'all, we've been catching y'all on your fucking lies.
It's just that no one ever tells women, like, you know what?
Maybe you are the toxic one.
We sit there and we listen to them.
Oh, no, you know what?
I feel bad.
Maybe he was the toxic one, blah, blah, blah.
You said it yourself.
He was unemotional.
He was stoic, which probably what ended up happening was you would freak out.
You were mostly erratic.
You actually admitted that's one of your mistakes.
You probably were nagging him being annoying as fuck.
Hold on, stop.
Stop.
You're nagging him, being emotional, blah, blah, blah.
He wouldn't respond.
You wouldn't give him the...
He wouldn't give you the response that you want.
He wouldn't react.
Like, oh, whatever.
Chick tripping, whatever.
He goes back to doing his thing.
You didn't get it.
What you wanted?
And then he was like, you know what, man?
I don't know if this is going to work, etc.
You were probably the toxic one, not him.
By him being stoic, I know he ain't toxic.
I also was the one that ended it.
Yeah, of course.
That's great that you ended it.
Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
So I learned stuff and I'm going to not ever do that again.
But you called him toxic when it was you that was toxic.
I'm not denying that I was toxic, though.
She was toxic, man.
It can come from both ends.
I'm not denying it.
I've never said I wasn't.
If he's stoic, then by definition, he's not toxic.
That is not true.
If you lack emotional intelligence, it is just as detrimental as being overly emotional.
Let me ask you a question.
Define emotional intelligence first.
What is that?
Being able to understand the emotions that you're feeling, the difference between being irritated and being angry and being sad and being depressed and being able to process those emotions and why you're feeling that way.
That is emotional intelligence and being able to communicate that, especially with somebody that you care for and plan on at least being with them for a fucking minute.
Okay, well, you said process your emotions, et cetera.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that if you're able to process your emotions and have high emotional intelligence as you're arguing, you'd be able to control them?
That's actually, I'm not going to lie, that's a conversation that we all had earlier.
And that's where I believe this is going to sound stupid as fuck to you, but that's where I believe everyone can benefit from therapy.
You can understand.
The reason why people go to therapy is because you realize that you have a problem being able to fix your emotion shit.
But you can acknowledge, yes I have these problems.
Answer the question.
You are arguing emotional intelligence and one of your rationale for the definition was being able to process your emotions, blah, blah, blah.
And understand them.
Okay.
If you're able to understand your emotions, right, and process them, wouldn't it be fair to say that controlling them and suppressing them is the highest level of emotional intelligence?
Yeah, but you may not have complete emotional intelligence.
And you may not be able to have the tools.
Hold on.
So if he's able to suppress his emotions by her own admission saying that he's stoic and he's not emotional, I would argue that's the highest level of emotional intelligence and he has more than her.
No, because communicating, hey, what you said upset me and I don't like that is one thing, but you shutting the fuck up and letting the bitch just go is not being emotional intelligent.
Really?
Yes.
Being able to control your emotions is not emotionally intelligent by your own definition.
That is you avoiding.
That is you avoiding emotion.
If you cannot talk to your significant other about the way that you are feeling, you are avoiding your emotions.
Emotional intelligence is when you can understand someone's emotion and not have it.
That's what your boyfriend did!
No, that's not.
That's what she's saying.
He's lacking.
You can control your emotions without repressing them.
He did not have to feel the way I felt, but he could have understood where I was coming from.
That is where the lack came from.
But to engage you in a heightened sense of emotion would not be emotionally intelligent.
Okay, you can be logical and say, okay, this is a solution to why you're feeling this way, but you can still...
No, I'm saying that's what he should have done.
No, it's not...
Bro, when women come with their problems, y'all don't want solutions.
You just want to vent.
Y'all don't give a fuck about a solution.
If I want a solution before, I would say, I'm looking for a solution.
If not, I'm looking for you to just listen to me.
You didn't say that.
You went in there being toxic and yelling and all that shit.
Oh my gosh, we had this conversation literally all day today.
Us three had this conversation all fucking day.
You said controlling and repressing, but there's a difference between controlling your emotions and repressing them.
If you can understand and control them, you can effectively communicate in a calm voice, I feel like this.
That doesn't mean you have to repress them.
Bro, bro, bro.
I feel like that's why men kill themselves so much because they don't talk about their emotions.
If it was natural, they wouldn't kill themselves.
Listen, you were toxic, we understand, you won't put it on him, but you were ultimately- You're the toxic one.
Why can't it be both of them?
Why can't it be both?
Why does it have to be her or him?
It takes two to tango.
No, no, no.
Because the thing is that women love to throw this term toxic around in 2023 in modern society and they want to put the blame on men and all this other shit.
The reality is...
It's y'all that are toxic, but you guys go ahead and blame the guy.
It's the women that start the altercations.
It's you guys that are nagging.
It's you guys that are annoying.
Not all the time.
That is not true.
We're not saying all the time.
We say most of the time.
Women start most arguments.
Guys just want to live in peace, man.
It doesn't take much for us to be happy.
We're not the ones instigating fights.
It's the women that do that shit.
Men are very simple.
I saw on Instagram the other day.
Someone posted like a picture.
Oh, men's apartments really be like this.
And it's like a fucking bed on the floor, a TV, and no furniture in there with some video games.
Will men really be happy like this?
Yes, because it doesn't take much for us to be fucking happy.
Niggas don't buy cars and nice watches and nice apartments and shit for themselves.
They get it for girls because girls need all that dumb shit.
Men, we're very simple.
So here's the thing, when girls say, you're toxic, blah, blah, blah, I know nine out of ten times, no, you're just fucking toxic, and you're mad that the guy maybe didn't give you the emotional reaction that you wanted, et cetera, and by your own admission, because here's the thing, I've been listening to y'all writing down notes and shit, you admitted yourself about 45 minutes ago, oh yeah, I'm emotionally erratic, that's something I need to work on, and then you go ahead and say your boyfriend is toxic, and then you also admit that he's also stoic, so I know if he's stoic, and you're the emotionally erratic one, you're the toxic one, not him!
But that's the past, I'm saying like...
Wait, it's my ex.
You asked me about my ex.
You tried to deny and say he's toxic when you're the toxic one.
I said we both were.
I never denied saying I was toxic.
I never denied it.
You admit it now because we got the evidence to prove you a lion, man.
You can't back it up.
- I was just trying to say, "Squire, that's fine." - She admitted it from the beginning.
- No, no, no, no.
Until we pressed her, she didn't admit it, and that's what I'm trying to say.
- Yes, she did.
- No, she didn't. - Every single person here is saying that she admitted it, and you are the only person that's ever been to. - Girls, girls, girls, girls, girls. - Yeah, we had to get to the bottom and do some investigation to be able to figure it out.
If not, she would have just been able to just be like, oh no, it was just toxic.
And we would have sat there and believed her face value.
You did intervene before I finished my whole thought.
You were not married.
One girl out of Don has one guy.
The point is that girls tend to...
They victimize themselves.
Let's say it's always the guy's fault, but what I've come to realize, it's actually the women that are the main perpetrators when it comes to being toxic and stuff like that.
It's not the men, bro.
I agree with women absolutely victimize themselves.
I feel like men and women, like...
Bro, you talk too much, too.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Beautiful Stop it Yo sabind desses You to much time Yo.
Shut the fuck up, bitch.
Bro, like, shut up, bro.
Goddamn.
Goddamn, y'all are fucking annoying.
The other girls are trying to see you.
Oh, bro.
They're coming in here just like.
We welcome conversation from anyone else.
I want you girls.
They need to talk too, man.
Damn!
I'm okay.
I'm okay.
So, I feel like...
Motherfucker.
I learned a lot.
It really had a big-ass impact.
I gave my all to this person for a long time.
So are you proud or disappointed by it?
Both.
Okay, why are you proud and why are you disappointed?
I'm proud because I learned a lot.
What'd you learn?
I learned not to hold it down for a man in jail.
So you learned not to be with a criminal.
What are you disappointed about then?
Or no, that's what you're disappointed about, right?
What are you proud of then?
I'm proud that even after we still have respect for each other, we still have love for each other, and I still learned a lot.
And I learned what I don't want in my future.
What'd you learn?
Like, top three.
Chris, she just said one.
Okay, um...
Don't hurt her brain, bro.
There was a lot.
Like, we got sober together.
Like, we did a lot.
So...
I feel like...
I don't know.
What was the question?
What are you most proud of?
And what are you least proud of?
I answer with, um...
No, she re-answered it, man.
Yeah, bro.
I don't know what you think it is, man.
What are the three things that you don't want in your relationship?
Your future relationship.
This is not...
Yo.
What are the three things that you don't want?
Yo, Fredo, what's up, man?
So many things I don't want in my future relationship.
I don't want to be with a man who doesn't know how to be a sober-ass motherfucker.
And I don't want a man who has anger issues.
When you say sober, you mean from alcohol or drugs or what are we talking about?
talking from drugs drugs how you gotta get sober 18 wait what how was he yeah everyone has a story yeah yeah so and i also learned you were doing drugs in high school you know how many kids are doing drugs in middle school my mom was doing drugs at 11 like what are you talking about like like here's the thing like there's never an excuse to do drugs No one said that.
We're not.
You said you're doing drugs at 18 and we're telling you that in reality there are people who are a lot younger than 18 doing drugs.
And that's unacceptable.
No one said that it's okay.
And she's actually saying that she will never be with anybody who's on drugs for that reason because it's wrong.
You guys are sitting here trying to like...
It's unacceptable.
I can't surround myself with people who do things like that now.
I've learned that.
For myself, I can't surround myself with people who do that.
Yeah, I'm just saying I'm shocked that you were on drugs in high school.
Like, that's crazy.
And I was.
And now you dance!
Yeah.
I'm a sober.
Drugs?
Sex?
A sober stripper!
You know how many druggies are in the stripper.
It's hard to stay sober.
I have a clear mind for this.
You maintain your sobriety around these women, which is props to you.
It's hard to do.
All it says is whores supporting whores.
That's a negative connotation to her saying that she won't be with people who are in drugs.
I'm saying being on drugs in the first place at a young age like that.
You are so lucky that you never had to realize that struggle.
Because at the end of the day, that is statistically...
Look, let me tell you something.
You, number one...
See, I was on the front lines of the drug problem.
I was actually arresting people that were bringing in the fucking drugs that you idiots would be addicted to, okay?
So I saw at the highest level.
I was going after Mexican cartel people, going after fucking terrorists, all this other shit.
You have something to say?
No, I'm just confused.
Like, this is what I was speaking on earlier about effective communication.
Like, when you say certain things, it's, like, not effective anymore because now you're...
Okay, look, look, look, look, you...
Honestly, with all due respect, I don't give a fuck what you think.
I'm saying what it is...
If you don't like it and how I convey it, it's the truth, it is what it is.
I don't know the fuck about your feelings, okay?
I'm telling you what it is.
You guys out here talk about, oh, well, people juice, drugs, yum, blah, blah, blah.
I'm a virgin.
I ain't gonna sit here and co-sign drug use ever because that shit is a L. You should be ashamed for using drugs.
You're getting it wrong You gotta try to sit here like We're also talking about how women can't take accountability She's taking accountability for her past mistakes, and how she's grown You're drugging on her for it How dare you even get into drugging the fuck?
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, first and foremost I want to finish my thought, okay?
You guys got to stop interrupting.
I'm simply saying that it's unacceptable.
You guys are over here trying to make excuses for it, like, people go through shit, blah, blah, blah.
Yo, it's unacceptable.
I don't give a fuck what you've been through.
You don't have to use drugs, period.
Okay?
Thank you.
That's your fucking problem, and you got to make a choice, and if you make the bad choice, I don't have to sit here and feel sorry for you.
Matter of fact, I think you should get made fun of for being a drug user.
And you should go to prison for it because at the end of the day, drug users fuck up the society.
They just decriminalized it in Portland.
Y'all see what the fuck's going on?
Crime skyrocketed.
So I don't respect drug users.
I don't respect drug sellers.
And I used to put those people in jail.
So you guys want to see people use drugs?
I'm going to fuck with it.
No, we're not saying that people who are doing drugs should be respected.
No, we're condoning the fact that she's sober.
That's great, but what I'm saying is that why you was drunk as a teenager?
That's crazy.
First and foremost, this is not your show when you talk too much, man.
How many times are we going to tell you to shut up, bro?
Stop yelling, alright?
Shit is wild.
I am fucking embarrassed that you are our teacher right now, because right now you're fucking yelling.
Oh shit!
It's a podcast, man.
Yo, yo, yo, sorry to say, man.
After five years, I've taught kids, right?
Including preschool and hospitals.
What the fuck?
Stop fucking yelling over people, man.
You're an embarrassment for teachers, man.
If you're fucking watching, if you're a boss, fire this bitch, man.
Fire her, man, because your kids are fucking taking an L right now.
Accusations!
And not only that, you've been sitting here trying to argue the most vocal.
You can't even name three countries, bro.
Like, yo, what the hell?
Absolutely.
So, regardless, oh, but people go through things, blah, blah, blah.
It doesn't make it right.
And I'm saying drug use is unacceptable regardless.
Who said it was?
They were trying to sit there and, oh, no, but people go through things, blah, blah, blah.
We were just saying how they end up there.
Not the fact that they're doing it.
It's just the fact that they end up there.
Regardless of the fact, it is not good for anybody.
So for now, why would you shame them?
We didn't shame them.
I was like, damn, you used drugs when you were young.
You missed the whole point of what he was saying.
Anyhow...
Are you done?
And the other reason too, I'm just going to say it.
Women that use drugs a lot of times from a young age, they're more likely to be promiscuous.
They're more likely to do stupid shit.
They're more likely to fuck up their future because women that do drugs become hoes.
And when you become a hoe, you can't find a guy.
A lot of times you won't get anyone to take you seriously.
You fuck up your entire future.
Men can come back from shit like that.
Women typically can't.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why it kind of sucks when women are on drugs.
But, hey, it is what it is, man.
And now she's stripping.
That's an L. Be all the way.
Drug use, stripping, all that other shit.
Like, bro, that's an L. That's how you want to view it?
It's actually an L. It is an L. It is an L. And you survived, so thank God.
Go ahead.
Yeah, you're going to say something?
Go ahead.
I think getting a bag and being sober, that sounds like a win to me.
But how are you getting the bag?
Sucks.
By dancing on a pole.
Okay.
And I love to do it, too.
That's awesome, dude.
No, you don't, bro.
No girl wants to take their clothes off in front of strange, random old men touching her.
Girls don't want to do that shit.
I have fun.
How you cope?
I remember when you first came back, you were like, that was really cool.
And here's the other thing, too.
I'm going to keep it all the way 1,000 with you.
Every single stripper I know is an alcoholic or a fucking drug addict.
So if you don't get off the pole...
Shut up for two seconds.
Shut the fuck up because I'm about to give her some real advice.
If you keep doing what you're doing, I promise you're going to get back on the drugs and alcohol.
You need to quit that shit.
Because most girls can't sit there and dance for random weird old niggas long term and feel okay with it.
They have to be under some type of substance.
Nine out of ten times.
So if you want to be able to get off the pole, stay sober, you're going to have to get off the pole.
That's the best advice anyone's going to tell you.
These girls aren't going to admit that shit to you, but I'll tell you.
That's fact, actually.
That's the reason why a lot...
Did I not actually say that most women in the strip club are already on something?
Y'all were literally just praising her for being a stripper.
Shut up, man.
Y'all don't know what you're talking about.
It's the drugs that we're discussing that are the problem.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with being a stripper.
Just stop talking, man.
Goddamn.
Women give each other terrible advice, bro.
Dog shit advice.
Yeah, man.
Get off the pole, man.
I'm serious.
You're 18.
You still got your life ahead of you.
And if you don't, you're going to get back onto drugs and alcohol.
Yeah, stop being a whore, man.
Don't be a whore no more.
18 years old, man.
What are you doing?
Listen.
What about you?
I'm not 18 either.
19.
Whatever.
Same shit, man.
I forgot the question.
Same thing.
Disappointment or proud of?
Last relationship.
Last relationship.
So, I think mine was a little bit of both also.
I was married.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
I met my ex-husband when I was 20.
And I got married at 24, and I was divorced by 28.
Damn, that was a long time ago.
Why'd you divorce him?
He had problems with meth and being abusive.
More drugs!
Drugs, man.
Actually physically abusive, but yeah.
Was he using drugs when y'all got married?
No.
Yes, he was.
No, he wasn't.
Well, again, not to my knowledge.
He was not.
Not that I was aware of.
Well, meth, you can't really hide that, bro.
- Yeah, I can't.
- Well, it is.
- It was like, - It was cool, but it was a little bit weird.
A little bit weird.
I was like, come on, man.
- You're a hot ass shit, man.
Come on, man.
- Come on, man.
- The moons are on meth.
- It was meth, like, towards the end of our relationship.
- Look at his teeth.
- You can't hide that.
Oh, so he joined after you.
Yeah, like he was...
Getting scripts for, you know, back pain and things like that.
He had a very physical job, so it started out like that.
So wait, how do you go from Oxy to Methane?
That's a great question.
Because of her, man.
Because of her, man.
She wasn't on her show.
Is her meth or heroin?
It probably was.
Actually, it was both.
I caught him doing heroin also.
What?
Yo.
Alright.
He took pictures of it.
No, like, he took pictures of himself doing it.
Like, it was the craziest shit I ever...
Like, I was showing some friends some pictures, you know, from our last vacation on our phone.
Breaking Bad.
Drug use is hell, man.
This shit is crazy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
Yeah, I'm lying.
Chris?
I'm being abusive.
Yep.
Are we good on time, or?
Yeah, no, no.
I think the girls are triggered enough.
Alright.
Do we have another stream after this?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, where are we at here?
Nigga said, hey, cornstar, shut the fuck up.
It's not your fucking mouth.
Yes, I paid pity to say that.
My choice, right?
Yo, he's tired of y'all too bad.
Yo, okay.
Yo, you need to implement a shot clock to these 304s.
Some just don't know how to share spotlight.
Y'all fucking assholes.
To clarify, when choosing a man or woman to date, rank the most important to least important what you are looking for to determine what you date that person.
One attractiveness to, 80, 100k.
Bro, they...
Oh, that was from before.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yo, Fresh, when are you going to stop lacking and get Larry June on the pod or payroll?
Fredo, you still scared of DDG still?
Bro, I want Larry June on.
I want payroll on.
I thought payroll every now and then.
But we'll see.
Fredo was scared of DDG. Fredo, what do you want to say back to that?
I ain't scared of nobody, man.
Yeah, man.
It's cooling in the cut, you know.
You pretty much came here at Dolo, bro.
He ain't scared of nobody, man.
Prince of Fuego's, if you're a woman and can fuck with no emotion, then that means your stimulus of sex from biological POV has been destroyed.
Even if you change heart, you'll get bored after two years of same dick.
Also, blonde and pink dress needs to get spat between her tits.
Wait, which one?
He's blonde with pink.
Oh, uh...
What the fuck?
Jewish girl?
Come on, man.
Come on, bro.
What's wrong with you, bro?
Oh, Prince of UAE, United Arab Emirates.
Okay, we'll move on.
MG goes, I like seeing her slowly die inside saying she's easy, then calling her a slut or a hoe making money off your pussy is easy.
That's gotta be a song lyric.
Black Shorty right next to your guest is literally the only one tonight that's making black women look good.
Shout out to you.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.
No, he wasn't talking about you.
He was talking about the girl from the Bahamas.
Yeah, you've been an L. You've been kind of an L. You can definitely get the pipe.
What's up?
Also get used to me commenting.
I love y'all's show.
Myron Fresh, Chris Bonebills.
Icy.
Yeah.
The last Hobender.
Dora the puta needs her braces tightened to shut her mouth up.
Guess I should change my name from Hobender to Copender because these hoes keep coping.
What if it's just one thing being a ho?
Estan locas el hoes w mo.
El hoes w mo.
Stream Sinaloa by Big Mo.
Shout out to you bro.
And then the last one's here.
The corn star calling dudes weird for liking a 21 year old virgin.
You're 20 with 200 plus bodies at 20 years old.
And I'm not idealizing young children.
It's about men value women that aren't tainted.
And what women are untainted.
There are women that are adults that are virgins.
The majority is not.
The majority is not that, though.
And you guys had the entire time have been talking about the majority.
In the United States, potentially, but there's other places in the world where women stay virgins until marriage.
And that's because their life quite literally depends on it.
They will get murdered if they have sex outside of wedlock.
That's not true, actually.
Yes, it is.
There are multiple religions that are like that.
There are multiple religions.
Look, man, this is what I'm trying to say when I say that your worldview is skewed because you have a certain worldview that is warped by your own reality.
Not everyone is a promiscuous porn star like yourself.
Some women understand that the key to my happiness is getting a family, and that's contingent upon me not being promiscuous.
So there are women out there that have low body counts and or are virgins when they meet a man.
In their 20s.
I know you can't fathom that.
Also, the culture of people...
My happiness doesn't derive from needing a family.
My happiness derives from me being happy, doing what I want in my life.
That doesn't change the argument that...
Because you're trying to say that...
What about the women who can't have babies?
They're not allowed to be happy.
You are the queen of moving the goalposts.
No, I'm not.
You're saying...
Be quiet for two seconds.
Be quiet for two seconds.
It first started with, guys that like women that are virgins are pedophiles.
I'm like, how is that possible when a woman's 21 in my scenario and she's a virgin?
How is that even possible?
That's you trying to shame men for having standards.
It's a weird standard, again, that the majority of people who are virgins are underage children.
If you require your girl to be a virgin to be with her, yes, unfortunately, in my eyes, you're a weirdo.
If you disagree, that's totally okay.
You don't have to agree with me.
I'm giving you my opinion.
With all due respect, that's because you're an unintelligent, promiscuous female that is pretty stupid.
You can't name three countries.
Okay, so why is it that?
No, no, no, because here's the thing.
I have to be book smart to be life smart in general.
Yes, because here's the thing.
I don't run around and say women, because here's the thing.
Let me take your logic, right?
I'm going to call women stupid, short, weak, and feeble because they want men that are tall, strong, and intelligent.
Wouldn't I sound like an idiot for demonizing women for a sexual preference?
Most of them want that, right?
Correct?
They want a guy that's stronger than them, smarter than them, makes more money than them, etc.
If I ran around and said, these women are stupid, unintelligent, retarded, weak bimbos, right?
I'm not going to say that because that's what women want.
So why is it fair for you to say, oh, guys that want virgins are predators and pedos?
That's asinine.
Men have wanted us is beginning of time.
That's a ludicrous comment for you to make and low IQ. Can I add something?
It's just not an intelligent comment.
Again, it just has to do with your point of view and my point of view.
It's reality!
It's not a point of view!
Your reality is different than my reality.
That's what I've been trying to explain to you.
You're a porn star that has a skewed perception of the way the world works.
You're 20 years old and you can't even name three countries.
Shut the fuck up.
Look, you...
Have a very skewed perception of how the world really works.
Men's is the beginning of time of wanted women that aren't ran through.
We can line up 100 dudes.
99 of them are going to want a girl that isn't promiscuous.
That's not an opinion.
That's not just my world view.
That's reality.
Okay?
If you don't like reality, then that's too bad for you.
But that's what it is.
You can't sit there and demonize an entire...
Shut the fuck up for two seconds and listen.
That's your problem.
You don't fucking listen.
And you don't understand anything.
You just look at the world from your own perspective.
You're fucking wrong.
Okay?
Because most women are not promiscuous hoes, like you, getting fucked on the internet.
Alright?
So I'm telling you what it really is.
Men don't want hoes.
Just like women don't want broke boys that are losers.
That's a standard that most people agree on.
It's reality.
If you don't like it, then too fucking bad.
Alright?
The world doesn't operate what you think.
It operates the way it does.
Are you going to accept it or not?
You clearly don't want to accept it.
Can I talk now?
I feel like the majority of women, though, is like, the reason we feel that way and are so quick to assume men are predators is because I feel like if you ask all the women on this panel, we get catcalled the most at 14 years old.
15 years old.
Bro.
Stop, stop, stop.
What does it have to do with the conversation?
They're not going for 18 versions.
They go for 100.
Shut the fuck up, man.
What does it have to do with the conversation?
That's coochie, man.
Relax.
Chill.
I would ask around and see if I'm wrong.
Chill.
Here's the thing.
When women get catcalled a lot of times, it's because they sexualize themselves.
Okay.
They dress provocatively.
That's like saying you had a right to get raped because you were dressed provocatively.
At 14 years old, I was 14.
That's a broad statement that is wrong as fuck.
First and foremost, being objectified and being raped are two different things.
You are.
You're being raped because you're being ejected by these men.
You're right, I'm yelling.
No, no, no.
You're yelling and you're making a huge jump.
She went from catcalling and you took it to rape.
What are you talking about?
They're two different things.
Catcalling a woman and sexually assaulting her are two different things, okay?
That's number one.
Number two, when a woman is catcalled, a lot of times it's because she's dressed provocatively, she's maybe strung herself in a certain way.
Typically men sexualize women when they sexualize themselves first, okay?
If a woman dressed modestly and didn't dress provocatively, the chances of her being catcalled go down significantly.
You think there wasn't rape back in the day?
You think there wasn't catcalling back in the day?
We're not talking about rape and catcalling.
It's all the same.
It's not the same.
One's a felony.
It is unwanted sexual attention.
The other one is not a crime.
It is unwanted sexual attention is what it is.
Why are you yelling?
Catcalling and raping are not the same whatsoever.
That's a low IQ comment for you to make that.
One's a crime.
The other one isn't.
They're not the same.
But what you are saying is you're making a broad statement.
But you're trying to complain the same.
Because you're making a broad statement that, oh, well, if you're dressed this way for a man to catcall you, then it's okay for him to catcall you.
I'm expressing to you that if that's your logic...
I never said it was okay.
No.
Never said it was okay.
I think we need to expect it.
But you're saying we need to expect it.
No.
Here's the thing.
Two different things.
If you sexualize yourself, men are going to sexualize you as well.
But the example is 14-year-olds.
But...
Like, if a girl's dressed provocatively at 14...
No, you shouldn't be dressed provocatively at 14!
What's wrong with you?
No, they shouldn't.
You're completely right.
But as a man, you can't tell she's 14 in her face?
Why are you catcalling her?
A lot of times they can.
You're giving a weird, nuanced example.
But what I am saying in general, women get catcalled, it's because they dress provocatively and they're putting themselves in a weird situation they shouldn't be in.
Shouldn't be walking around at night, shouldn't be sexualizing yourself, etc.
My thing is this.
If you dress modestly, if you behave in a certain way, you're going to significantly reduce the chance of you being catcalled.
Reduce.
So then can I propose a situation to you?
So then can we mic me up and then send me out and I'll wear nothing but sweats all the way from head to toe and you can watch how many men still...
I get in an Uber, I have to walk down the block when my Uber drops me off no matter what I'm wearing because I don't want him to know where I fucking live and he will stand there.
I said, because again, you have a very bad...
No, but you're arguing with the way I'm presenting myself, and that's the reason.
Yo, yo, you missed everything I said.
I said it would mitigate the chances of you being sexualized.
And I'm telling you, that's not the case.
In my experience, that is not the case.
It doesn't matter if I'm...
If you walk down Miami Beach, right, and you're dressed from head to toe, that's going to significantly reduce the amount of people that can't call you.
I'm telling you from my experience, that is not the fucking case.
You cannot tell me in my experience.
Like I just said, put me up with a lie detector test right now.
Stop yelling.
Number one, stop yelling.
Number two, you are not as attractive as you think you are.
Absolutely.
I absolutely disagree.
If I covered you up, most dudes are not going to catcall you the way that you think it is.
Again.
Again.
Hilarious.
Bro, yes.
Bro, yes.
Yo, brace, brace, chill out, man.
The thing is, is that you're not used to respect for men because you are a whore.
That is why.
Your perception of reality is fucking skewed.
Okay?
You keep using your own personal examples.
Right?
And try to reflect that on the world.
Here's the thing.
A lot of women aren't necessarily catcalled that much if they dress modestly.
Am I saying you're not going to be catcalled ever?
No.
But it is absolutely going to reduce the amount of times you are catcalled.
Okay?
The thing is that you don't understand this because most men don't respect you because you're a porn star.
Okay?
That's the reality.
You chose to sexualize yourself.
You chose to sexualize yourself, and that's what ends up happening a lot of the times.
So what about before I was a porn star?
Are you gonna tell me the same thing when men were catcalling me and I'm telling you that I was dressed head and butt and toe?
You're only 19, right?
Relax.
I'm 20, which means I had two whole years of being an adult and being able to experience life as a fucking grown woman without having anything to do.
You have to take some responsibility for your decisions, okay?
If you sexualize yourself, men are going to sexualize you in return.
So men need to take responsibility as well.
Wait, wait, wait.
Bitch.
Myron is talking and you're constantly cutting him off, right?
Chill.
Relax.
Listen.
No, listen.
I'm going to move us forward because we got Fred O'Hare, man.
You're taking the whole show.
He really spoke this whole show.
You're up here and Mofi, your other friend.
This is retarded, bro.
And the thing is, it's interesting because the dumbest girls on the panel have the most to say always.
Always.
So then why doesn't anyone else talk?
Shut the fuck up because you've been talking the whole fucking show!
There's been so many times when you shut the fuck up.
No, no, no, because they're smart enough to understand that we're making arguments based in fact and logic and you're making arguments based on emotion.
Disagree.
You can disagree to disagree, but the fact is that you are not that intelligent.
You got the most to say, and you're one of the dumbest girls here.
I see sight too, Seth.
One?
The most.
No, the one before Chris.
What's the saying?
What happened?
What?
What?
What'd you say?
No, no.
Kick a bitch is the one I'm talking about.
What?
First?
Kick a bitch.
I know, but this is the one that's hilarious, bro.
Okay.
Please castle this Professor Severus Snape looking hoe.
Her voice is annoying.
Killing the quiet of the show.
Interrupting.
Dumb as fuck.
Pussy loose as fuck.
Arby's beef sandwich.
Dora ugly ass.
So it sounds like you watched my videos.
I don't know about you, but...
Harry Potter.
Yo, what the fuck, man?
Ronald Weasley.
Goddamn, yo.
Kick a bitch.
See, here's the thing.
Even the guys in the chat don't respect you because you sexualize yourself on the internet.
That's facts.
See, they're shitting on you because you're a porn star.
Right, and what position are they in life to be able to say anything to me about it?
You're missing the point here.
No, you're missing the point.
What do these people mean to me?
They're not providing me with money.
Because you are literally crying about being sexualized by men.
You literally cried about that five minutes ago.
No, I was arguing with the point of you being well dressed and covered up means that you won't get catcalled as much.
And I told you from my own experience, before I started porn as well, and as I said, mic me the fuck up and take me out with the fucking camera fully dressed right now in broad daylight even.
Nobody cares.
And I can prove you fucking wrong right then and there.
And it'll still be multiple people that don't know that I'm a fucking porn star that will still be fucking weirdos.
It's just at the end of the day, there are weirdos in life and you're trying to argue that.
I'm not saying that there aren't weirdos.
I simply said that when you sexualize yourself versus not sexualizing yourself, it decreases the chances of you being sexualized by men.
And I tried to explain to you that maybe that may be some people's experience, but personally, in mind, with how ugly I am, that has not been my experience.
And I feel like the original point of how we even got talking about catcalling is I was talking about how girls get catcalled more at 14 years old.
When I was saying that, I was kind of like, I was less attractive at that age.
I looked younger.
I feel like a lot of the time we get catcalled the most when we look very young.
And you're saying, oh, and I spoke, you're not turning and asking the woman.
It's true.
If you ask women, it's true.
This all started because she's mad that I said that guys want girls that aren't promiscuous and men, if they could, would prefer a virgin over a girl that is promiscuous.
And that's pedophile behavior.
No, it's not.
I haven't gotten mad once, actually.
That's the argument you try to make.
You try to conflate a man wanting a girl that isn't a whore to being a pedo.
And I'm just not going to let that stand because that's a ridiculous claim.
It's a ridiculous claim.
Because saying, okay, I am attracted to a woman who doesn't let herself be out there as much is one thing, but saying to be with a woman she needs to be a virgin, no.
You can have sex with people and still not be a virgin and your body count still not be high.
You can have sex with two, three people in your life and be 30 years old and have only had sex two or three times.
That doesn't mean that you're a whore.
Did you just say that you can be a virgin and have had sex?
No, no, no.
That doesn't make sense.
I said that you cannot be a whore without being a virgin.
You can have sex two to three times.
That doesn't make you a whore, but you're also not a virgin.
Yo, chat, what do you want?
Castle?
This shit's fucking annoying, bro.
I like how you guys talk to me and ask me questions, and then when I respond, tell me I'm annoying.
No one ask me a question.
You're just lost.
You're super lost.
I'm really not.
You're lost.
I'm keeping up with everything that I'm saying.
It's going to take you like five years, but you're lost.
Yeah, you are pretty lost, man.
I'm so sorry that you said that.
I really feel like that.
Like, no funny shit.
I genuinely feel the same way.
I'm sorry that you guys don't have this.
I'm being for real.
And I'm being for real, too.
I've been able to repeat all of your guys' point of views.
Obviously, that means that I understand it.
Because if I can repeat what you're saying and reiterate it in a way that I say, not reiterating your words exactly, that means that obviously I have an understanding for what you guys are saying.
And all you guys are doing is telling me how everything that I'm saying is wrong.
That means that you don't even have the ability to fuck in.
That's why any of the girls, you guys, you need to agree.
She's like, oh my god, get her out of here.
I have no problem with anything that I've said on this podcast.
I don't say anything just to say shit.
You are a porn star, man.
It takes no talent to pop your pussy on the fucking internet, man.
Tell me.
You have no talent.
You have no talent.
So then why aren't there more big porn stars?
So then why aren't there more mainstream fucking crazy porn stars like me and Khalifa?
I did not know who you are.
Because not everyone can.
You can't talk podcast.
I have no idea who you were.
And that's fine.
That's fine?
Yeah.
If you was lit, I would have known who you were.
The thing is, man, is that you got older guys here that are way more well-traveled, way more life experience.
And you're trying to sit here and tell us how the world works from your very skewed perception as a sex worker at 20 years old.
Like, you don't know shit with all due respect.
See, that's the difference.
You don't know anything.
Okay, so I'm going to make a call here.
You can barely name three countries.
Based off the conversation, you're fairly low IQ. You don't know what you're talking about.
Your body isn't that hot, man.
Come on, man.
You're just delusional.
You're not aware of how the world really works.
Notice how when people get mad, they start coming at you for your looks?
Isn't that crazy?
Isn't that crazy?
Right.
So, obviously, I make money doing what I do.
What do you mean?
Obviously, my body is hot to somebody.
What kind of statement is that?
So, niggas, who don't fuck that?
The chat wants both of them gone, man.
They want both of them gone?
Like yesterday.
Not me.
All right, cool.
Alright, man.
Just get up and leave then.
If the chat wants y'all gone, bro, y'all just heard in the quiet of the show.
They don't want y'all on no more.
Yeah, for real.
Yeah, just get up and leave.
Alright, now I mean...
Yeah, it is what it is.
The chat's spoken.
They want you gone.
Literally, bro.
You're hurting their ears.
Ones, castles...
Yeah, they've been giving ones the whole time.
Alright, man.
She...
She got kicked out, guys.
Goddamn.
So...
Who else, though?
Who else?
Who else wants to...
Scripper wants to leave, too?
Oh, no, you took your headphones off.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Alright, go ahead.
And then you two?
You said y'all, so I assume me and her were the...
Yeah, I thought like that.
Yeah, y'all said y'all.
That's why we took our headphones on.
Yo, chat.
Her too?
Goddamn.
What do y'all want?
What do y'all want?
Let's see what the chat says, man.
Y'all want, uh...
I think I said boat time.
Y'all think it's why diabetes is out?
I don't think I've been directing people like that or anything.
She ain't really been saying shit to me.
Just because I'm a slut, I'm getting it.
Hey, blonde, you gone?
You did what?
What the fuck?
Change the tampon?
Yo, that's gross, man.
What the fuck?
Alright, just go, just go, man.
Just leave, bro.
What the fuck?
Wait, wait, wait.
Tampon Castle?
What the fuck, bro?
We gonna keep you, bud.
Wait, what the fuck?
Wait, what the fuck?
Tampon Castle?
Alright, go.
No!
That was on her own volition.
We didn't even know.
What the hell?
She said in a nutshell, I'm going to go chain my tampon.
TMI. TMI. You want that, Mo?
Get the strip right here too, bro.
Pete Davidson's first scene was with a dude that busted asbestos dust inside of her.
And girls like this want Elon Musk high-value man to eat that tainted ass Arby's Extra Roast Beef quadruple male haunted hallway ass pussy for life.
Send the ass word please.
Goddamn.
Yeah.
This shit's crazy.
We have a topic, but thanks, FNF, for all that you teach the boys.
Six months ago, I had zero credit, got an OpenSky credit card.
Six months later, I got it to $750.
I'm getting my AMX Platinum in the mail.
Stay real, boys.
My women deserve less.
Chris is a bum.
All right, W. Benedict Fender says, Great Value Swift was doing drugs, having sex at 18.
Was she in the backstage of Kiss Concert?
I don't know, bro.
This shit wild.
What else?
Cornstar is capping hard.
She's the weirdo being fricked on camera.
That's weird.
You're 20.
You're still a child.
Still two years adult life experience.
Don't make me laugh.
Yeah, bro.
I mean, it is what it is, man.
We got here, how is this chick gonna shame guys for liking virgins when she gets paid money to look like a teen with braces?
Get your Finding Nemo wake-up fishy-ass the fuck outta here.
Alright, last thoughts.
Last thoughts on the show.
How's the show for you?
Hate it, love it.
How's the show for you?
Chaos.
Yeah, it was chaos.
I love people watching, so this is great.
What was the most chaos on the show?
You could be real.
Really?
Do we have to say it?
Just say it.
Go ahead.
You got it.
Yeah, that was chaos.
All that.
All that?
Why?
Just unorganized, high volume.
It would have been a lot easier to process at a lower volume and maybe some coherency.
Thank you for that.
Understandable.
What about you?
How was the show for you?
It was good.
It was cool to see a lot of different perspectives.
I wish people would respect other people's opinions more and just have a conversation.
There's no need to...
The men or the girls?
In general.
I mean, there's no need to make it so serious.
We have different opinions and we're just having a conversation.
I thought it was cool.
I enjoyed it.
Thank you for having me.
Well, I mean, you gotta be able to call out people when they're incorrect.
Yeah, yeah.
A lot of incorrect things.
Somebody's wrong.
You can do that, but respectfully.
That's true.
I mean, sometimes you just need to tell people they're dumb, bro.
Like, I mean, I just gotta be honest.
Because they weren't getting it when we were explaining what it was.
So it's just, you gotta be blunt.
No, right.
After a certain time, I understand, like, it getting frustrating.
But in general.
You want us to lay to you?
I'm sorry?
You want us to lay to you?
Never said that.
Perfect.
All right.
What about you?
I thought it was cool, but I wish I got to, you know...
I didn't speak a lot, but...
Bro, what, you wanted to talk more?
I feel like sometimes things got so off the topic.
It wasn't that I didn't get to talk a lot, but I feel like when I started a point, it got to 80 different points when I wish I got to finish it.
You and her!
I would get interrupted with the first thing I said because you're taking a certain meaning from it.
I want to get to finish it.
I'm keeping a million.
I've noticed this about a lot of sex workers that come on the show.
Y'all are scatterbrained as fuck, man.
Y'all can't focus on Nothing.
Like, the strippers, the OnlyFans girls, like, it's a million...
Like, it's like a cat with fucking red lights and shit.
Like, you can't stay focused, man.
I feel like this show would be less interesting if every girl on was it, like, you know, the same type of, like, wholesome woman.
No, that's not the point.
Those are actually some of our best conversations when we talk with those girls, man.
Yeah, facts, facts.
Y'all are tough, man.
Okay.
Because y'all sex workers are delusional, no offense, but y'all are delusional.
It's your fault, by the way.
Alright, whatever.
How's the show for you?
It's like, bumbleclot.
Hate it, love it.
How's the show?
Um, I love the show.
The people not so much.
Y'all could redo it again with the people, you know?
Who in particular was the issue you think?
Girls?
Yeah, like, what you mean?
Y'all gonna bring people to actually know about them being a woman, you know?
Like, know what it takes, know what it means to be your wife or have a man by the side.
Don't just bring children in this bitch and expect them to talk like a woman.
You ain't gonna get it.
I just think that y'all should have spoke up, like, more if you could.
Like, I was nudging her, like, please speak up over this bitch.
That was going to be an argument.
That was going to be a couple of arguments.
See, that's why women don't tell each other the truth, so we got to do it.
I didn't want to do it, so we got to do it.
We got to tell them they're stupid.
As you were saying, you can't be respectful when you're telling the truth.
And I get real disrespectful when I'm telling the truth.
Do it.
You should have told her.
The conversation would have been very different.
Exactly, very different.
What about you?
I don't always agree with everything you guys say, but I do like that you go against what the mainstream media says that guys have to act like.
I don't agree with that.
So I do like it that you guys have the balls to say what you want to say live in front of everyone.
The crazy part is that this is how most men think.
It's just that we can't be honest with y'all because we get the responses that we got before.
Man, you're a pinot.
You want a virgin?
Like, women say really dumb shit in response to what men want.
So guys can't be honest.
They can't say no.
And it's all shame to control men to their standards, which is crazy to me.
Like, oh, you should accept the hoe.
Why?
I don't think it's...
I honestly don't think it's fair, though.
I mean...
That's fine.
That's life.
Life's not fair.
You don't have a life.
Okay, it's life.
Unfortunately.
What about you?
Um, I didn't not enjoy the show.
I do think that things could have been more effective, and like Jasmine said, I do think people can and should respect each other more, regardless of...
How can it be more effective?
Go ahead, tell us.
Just simply speaking like this and not the whole dominance move where you're trying to speak over people.
Or being louder to get your point across is not really necessary.
Yeah, if she's being loud and obnoxious, then I have to assert myself over that, right?
Yeah, but it was just like, honestly, it was a good show.
I enjoyed it or whatever the fuck, but it was just very overstimulated.
I mean, we have to obviously have some level of control, and if people are going to act crazy, we have to deal with that in some way.
No, yeah, but also, too, it's not like little things, like just like, you know...
Name-calling.
Like, simple, like, you're in your sentence and you're kind of making it, like, yeah, you're making it logical, but then you say something like name-calling and it kind of makes it personal after that.
How so?
Ho?
No, like, when you're like, oh, like, you bunch of idiots would be addicted to this shit, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, like, why, like, I just don't, I don't get it.
I didn't call them idiots, but I just said it's unacceptable to use drugs.
Okay, well.
Yeah.
That's the end of my statement.
You were wrong about your entire statement, though!
I didn't know this was a right or wrong situation.
I thought you were asking me what I thought of the show.
I know, but like the things that you thought weren't right, they didn't occur.
Yeah, thanks.
Okay, anyway, you can go ahead.
Like, I don't...
Bro.
Just leave, man.
You've been having attitude the whole time and everything, man.
Just leave, bro.
Just leave, man.
They're respectful as fuck.
She's a virgin, man.
Attitude and shit.
Alright, girls, man.
Get out, man.
What the fuck, man?
I thoroughly enjoyed the show.
I enjoyed the hosts, the guys in the back.
The whole team, the production, I think it's lit as fuck.
I just think if she shut the fuck up...
And some of y'all spoke up a little bit against her.
Like, this could have been...
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's funny.
Everyone started saying that when she left.
Like, it would have been...
Yeah, they were saying that while she was here.
Like, I think we wanted...
Like, I was nudging her a few times.
Like, hey, like, speak up.
Like, I wanted more girls to speak up, to be honest.
Like, they were giving her, you know, enough.
I feel like...
She would have shut up more if the girl said sorry.
She would have been like, you know what, maybe I am a dumb hoe.
You know what I mean?
But when girls don't say nothing, here's the thing.
The reason why women behave the way they do is because other women don't hold them accountable.
Yeah, at all.
Like, women don't hold each other accountable ever.
Hey, you know, maybe you should think twice before getting on a sugar pole at 18 years old.
Hey, you know what?
Being a whore and a porn star, you're gonna fuck yourself up long term.
Hey, you know, you talk a little too much.
You're a little loud.
You're a little obnoxious.
You're a little masculine.
Yo, you're disrespectful as fuck.
Like, shit like that.
Like, no one checks these chicks.
I was probably the first person to tell her, like, bro, you got an attitude problem.
Like, what the fuck?
Like, nobody tells women nothing.
It's crazy.
Because that would have been an argument between two women, two guys.
That would have been like, you know, a quarrel going on.
With two females, it's going to be hands after that argument.
Yeah, but we're here.
We would have broken up.
I mean, women are weak.
We would have held y'all back.
But that's the thing.
Why can't we just have a conversation without throwing hands in it?
Like, after age, we're all supposed to be wanting to be mature, but without talking about throwing hands.
Exactly.
Well, no, she's saying that if she had told her that, she would have got mad and there would have been a fight.
But that's what I'm saying.
It shouldn't have been like that.
We can just have different opinions and conversate.
Well, women don't tell each other the truth, though.
That's what we're trying to say.
I'm saying I wish women told each other the truth more, but they don't, which is why y'all kind of operate in the loony reality that you guys have.
I feel like even though you say my reality is delusional, that was one of the first things I said on here was I feel like women lie a lot to themselves, to men, to each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you, like, help confirm a lot of the lies, too.
Like...
Okay, man.
Yo, this shit crazy, bro.
Holy...
Sorry, Fredo.
Yeah, Fredo.
Sorry, bro.
This shit crazy, right?
Nigga, imagine doing this three times a week, man.
I don't know how y'all doing.
Bro, I'm losing hair.
Bro.
Alright, yo.
Hope you guys...
Anything else?
Oh, okay.
And then we got another stream after this shit.
Okay, last two right here.
Dora the 304.
If Dora is teaching kids, she needs to be turned over to the police.
Sex work is banned around children.
Fair enough.
And then I think that's it.
That's all.
Cool.
Guys, we'll be back here in a little bit with a third stream for y'all, man.
We're going to talk about the top 10 or top 20 Red Pill songs.
We love you guys.
Like the video, man.
And we'll catch you guys on the next episode on Monday.