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Oct. 25, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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FreshandFit Take Over Las Vegas!

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	We'll make you a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus!
	just like me.
	Just like me.
	Just like me.
	You guys are different. - Mm.
	Welcome, guys.
	Welcome to the weekly show that we do here.
	It's so great to have everybody.
	Could everybody turn the volume down on your phone?
	Because somebody's got it all the way up.
	Guys, we're here for Access Vegas.
	We've got a special one.
	My man, Rolo Tomasi, is in the house.
	And we've got our brothers that came all the way down from Miami.
	Fresh and fit.
	What's going on, guys?
	What's up, man?
	What's up, man?
	We're back, man.
	We are here.
	This show I didn't think was going to happen this week.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, last minute we came out for a Rumble event, Power Slap event, so we just came from there.
	It was a good time.
	Hung out with Sneeko for a bit and Academics and Bradley Martin.
	All those guys were there, so it was a good time.
	Yeah, guys, rumble.com slash Fresh Fruit.
	You guys know where to find us if we get canceled.
	And CastleClub.tv.
	So we'll go ahead and, without further ado, introduce the ladies, right?
	So ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course.
	Your body count.
	And we're gonna start right here.
	So Lady in Red.
	Hello everyone.
	My name is Jen Garcia.
	I am 49, 50 in two months.
	I'm an actress, a writer, a podcaster.
	I do On the Block with Jen and also Sisterhood Sips all week long.
	And what else did you need?
	Where did you from originally?
	Bronx, New York originally.
	Now I'm a Las Vegas local.
	Okay.
	What's your highest education level completed?
	Some college is what I put down on applications when I'm filling out an application.
	Do you have your associates or?
	Associates.
	Okay.
	In?
	Hotel hospitality management.
	Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	Single.
	All right.
	Damn still?
	No, not still.
	All right.
	What about you?
	What's your name?
	Lana Terries.
	Okay.
	How old are you?
	I'm going to be 34 in January, so 33.
	Okay.
	Where are you from?
	Originally L.A., but I live here.
	Okay.
	What do you do for work?
	I am an engineer here at Sticky Paw Studios, and I'm a comedian, and I'm a podcast host for Laughing with Lana.
	Okay.
	When you say engineer, like a sound engineer?
	No, well, I engineer the podcast here, and that's why I knew how to move the mic.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	And then, highest education level completed?
	She's our big mo.
	Some college, like we said.
	You have an associate's, or...?
	I almost finished associates for psychology, but then I went into medical and I did a technical class, I guess you can say, for cardiology.
	So I was a cardiology tech in the ER for almost nine years.
	Okay.
	And then, relationship status?
	Single!
	Happily!
	Alright, what about you?
	What's your name?
	I am Carly.
	I am 28.
	Where are you from?
	Born in North Carolina, but I grew up here.
	What part of North Carolina?
	Charlotte.
	And then what do you do for?
	I am a costume designer and a model manager.
	Okay, and then highest education level completed?
	High school.
	Okay, relationship status?
	Single.
	All right, cool.
	Single train.
	Keep going.
	My name's Domo.
	Domo?
	Domo.
	Okay, how old are you?
	I'm 34.
	Okay, where are you from?
	I'm originally from LA and I live here now.
	Okay, what do you do for it?
	I'm an adult entertainer, podcaster, and I do many things.
	Are we talking like OF or are we talking like...
	No, I'm a mainstream porn star.
	Mainstream, okay.
	Cool.
	And then highest education level completed?
	Some college.
	Okay.
	Like associates or...?
	No.
	So high school then, I guess?
	Completed.
	I completed high school.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I went to school at LA Recording School for sound engineering music production, but I didn't finish.
	Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	Single.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Nellie.
	I am originally from Toronto, but I just moved to Beverly Hills from Miami.
	I was there for 10 years.
	I am 28 years old, single but looking.
	What do you do for it?
	So I own a matchmaking and dating coaching business.
	I also am a television personality and a content creator.
	Okay.
	And then high school, highest education level completed?
	So I have a certificate from Harvard Business School and a master's degree from Columbia University.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	And what?
	In conflict resolution, negotiation, and I'm trained in mediation.
	Nice!
	That's great for dating.
	So garbage.
	That's great for dating modern women, yeah.
	Well, it's all that you bring to the table, right?
	That's a negotiation.
	Terrorist negotiation, I think that would be helpful.
	And then relationship status?
	So I'm single.
	Single, okay.
	And looking, yeah.
	Okay, single and looking.
	And then you said you run a matchmaking service.
	Do you matchmake women with men or do other way around?
	I actually have male and female clients, so I matchmake both, yes.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'm Lady Maso.
	Lady what?
	Maso?
	Lady Maso.
	Maso, okay.
	How old are you?
	36.
	Where are you from?
	I'm from Miami.
	Okay.
	I'm from Colombia, but I live in Miami now.
	Okay.
	Paisa?
	What do you do for work?
	I'm a painter and sometimes acting.
	Do you actually live in the city of Miami or where are you at?
	Yeah, I live right there in downtown Brickell.
	If anything I was supposed to go to you guys.
	The irony.
	You got scared?
	I got so scared.
	They told me that you guys were going to treat me so bad.
	And I was like, I'm literally shaking right now.
	I was like, damn, I tried not to go with them, and they're here.
	Well, you could have just not come.
	No, you know what?
	I was looking at the little baby, and I was like, he looks so familiar.
	I was like, oh.
	And I was asking my friends, like, do you guys think he looks so familiar?
	And they're like, because they're from here, they're like, no.
	And I was like, oh, okay.
	But now I notice when you say that you're from Miami, I was like, oh.
	Okay, that's the story you're going to say.
	What's your highest education level completed?
	Some college, hotel management, and high school.
	You have an associates?
	No.
	Okay, so I'll just put high school.
	Ladies, remember, it's completed, not I kind of did it, and then I left.
	Oh no, I completed it, but yeah.
	Okay, and then what's your relationship status?
	I just got single.
	You just got single.
	Okay.
	He doesn't want to get back with me.
	I tried.
	He broke up with you?
	I say, I'll give you my code of my phone and I'll let you go through.
	He's like, no.
	I'm like, alright.
	But why though?
	What'd you do?
	He broke up with you?
	It's just randomly just like things just like, you know how it is sometimes just like...
	No, I don't know.
	Tell me.
	It's just like, I don't know.
	It's just like the way this world is.
	It's just like I was traveling a lot to Vegas.
	You cheated, right?
	We both did it.
	Wow.
	But it was because we weren't like communicating or anything.
	It was like a little jealousy thing.
	Not to me, because I've never been jealous, but there are no small betrayals.
	Generally when you cheat, you don't communicate.
	We literally stopped communicating, and then it's not really called cheating because we already were not like...
	Broken up?
	Yeah.
	So it's not really like cheating.
	So he got dumped.
	But he left you though, is what happened.
	Can you believe that?
	Yes.
	Viviana, I agree.
	I believe everything you're saying.
	Myra.
	Myra.
	What?
	Talking to the mic.
	They're saying that the audio.
	There you go.
	For us, yeah.
	Yours is a little quiet.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What's your name?
	Hi.
	My name is Ashley.
	I'm 33 years old.
	I'm a fitness and health specialist at Nevada National Security.
	Where are you originally from?
	California in the Bay Area.
	Okay.
	And then you said you're a fitness coach?
	I'm a fitness specialist at Nevada National Security.
	I do ergonomics as well as I make sure that all the people that protect the site are up to fitness code.
	Okay, so you're the fitness coordinator for Nevada National Security.
	Is that a government agency?
	So you know Area 51?
	I work Area 23 in a mine that's like a thousand feet down.
	Okay, so are you employed by the state or is that federal?
	Okay.
	Department of Energy?
	Oh.
	You got a queue clearance?
	No, unfortunately I'm unclear, but I get escorted everywhere.
	Okay.
	They don't trust you yet.
	Alright.
	It's because I just started working there in February, so it takes a really long time, about two years.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	So yeah, it's going to take you probably six to seven months to get that clearance.
	Alright.
	And then highest education level completed?
	Bachelor's.
	Kinesiology is my major.
	Okay.
	Where'd you get it from?
	San Diego State.
	Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	I'm taken.
	How long have you been together?
	Three months now.
	How did you guys meet?
	Bumble.
	Who can deadlift more, you or him?
	Me.
	It's only because he has a back injury.
	He's still strong, but I can deadlift more.
	What about you?
	Rosie Fisher, originally from Colorado City and Healdale in Utah, and now I live in St.
	George, Utah.
	And I'm in Vegas a lot for work.
	I do some apparel modeling, expo modeling for trade shows.
	How old are you?
	30.
	Okay.
	And then highest education level completed?
	GED. Okay.
	And then relationship status?
	Taken as fuck.
	Okay.
	How long have you been?
	Five years.
	Alright.
	How'd you guys meet?
	We actually, so we both got out of like a cult, polygamous cult.
	We were sneaking around like in secret because nobody's supposed to date.
	Like it's all separation, boys and girls.
	And then I left.
	Did you grow up Mormon?
	It was Polygamous Mormon, so FLDS Mormon.
	Okay.
	The Warren Jeffs group.
	He's in prison now for like government fraud, tax fraud, pedophilia.
	Holy!
	There's your new Fed topic for you.
	We were sneaking around in the cult, but like, I mean, nothing physical, because obviously that's like hella bad.
	And then I left, I got into college, I went to college for business and accounting, but I never finished my degree because I got freaked out by the debt.
	So I dropped out.
	And then I went back to college for surgical assisting.
	I was a surgical assistant for four years.
	And I left after COVID. Didn't want the jab.
	That type of stuff.
	And I started doing in-home CNA for patients.
	So that's what I do now.
	As well as the apparel modeling.
	And modeling for trade shows and expos.
	He left a year after I did.
	And we just kind of picked up where we...
	I mean, I went to lunch and stuff with guys.
	But it just...
	I don't know.
	I was super closed off.
	So it hasn't been five years on continuous.
	It was like...
	So we were doing kind of long distance for a year, so it's been like this is year five for us like living together.
	Okay, all right.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Natalie.
	How old are you Natalie?
	I am 29.
	Okay, where are you from?
	I am originally from California, Central Valley.
	What do you do for work?
	I am a model, actress, comedian, content creator.
	You said you're a model?
	What kind of content do you make?
	I do a lot of weed stuff.
	Okay, so it's not OnlyFans?
	I do have an OnlyFans.
	You do have an OnlyFans?
	Okay.
	And then, highest education level completed?
	I didn't finish college, but I went to a vocational school, a trade school.
	Okay, what did you get your trade in?
	I was a nail tech for 10 years.
	Okay.
	And then, relationship status?
	I am in a relationship.
	How long have you been together?
	It's only been a few months.
	You've only heard ten other girls go before you.
	We're together, we lose time.
	Six months.
	I had to count.
	It hasn't been a whole year yet.
	Six months.
	What about you?
	Hi, I go by Summer.
	I'm 28 years old.
	I'm originally from San Diego, California.
	I got my Associates in Biological Sciences dropped out before Biochemistry Masters or Bachelors, whatever.
	Relationship status?
	I am taken.
	Okay, and what do you do for work?
	I am a dancer.
	I own a food truck.
	I'm also a TV entertainment personality.
	Yeah, you are.
	Yes, you are.
	Tell us what show.
	It's the brand new show on Paramount Plus called Strip.
	Right now it's out in the UK and it's going to be coming out in the US. Which I may or may not have a cameo in.
	That's what I was actually going to ask.
	Were you like a stripper?
	Okay, fair enough.
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, and then how long you all been together?
	Six months.
	Okay.
	Hey, does your food truck ever sit outside the strip club that you work at?
	You know what?
	They did tell me I can bring it over there.
	That would be the most ingenious vertical integration I've ever heard in my entire life.
	What kind of food?
	Thank you.
	It's Hawaiian shaved ice.
	So it's really good for the summertime, but we just shut it down for October.
	And guys, to get your Super Chat on the show, it's fnfsuperchat.com or your Rumble Rants.
	Quite a good disc came in as well.
	Yeah, we'll read them through the phone.
	Or you can do it on our channel.
	Or on Rolo's.
	Either or.
	But yeah, either or works.
	But yeah, guys, fnfsuperchat.com or Super Chat through Rolo's channel or Mike's.
	We're multi-streaming it right now, but in probably about 40 minutes, we're killing it.
	Just go to YouTube and Rumble.
	And last but not least.
	So, yes, gentlemen, go ahead.
	Oh, how are you doing, guys?
	My name is Michael Sarté, and I'm a cat dilf.
	I rescue him.
	I have a podcast that pisses a lot of people off because I tell people numbers that really, really make them angry because apparently people don't like math.
	And yeah, I do Access Vegas with Rolo.
	We do this crazy show in Las Vegas, don't we?
	Yeah.
	Hi, I'm Rolo Tomasi, the author of the multi-international best-selling book, The Rational Male, who will soon be in Kenya, Nairobi, Kenya very soon.
	Ooh!
	And we do this little show called Access Vegas.
	Oh, by the way, I also go by that red pill guy, too.
	I answer to that red pill guy.
	So just those red pill guys, yeah, that's who they're talking about.
	And he's a rocker.
	Yes.
	I try.
	I do my best.
	Okay.
	So we'll kick off the first question here, ladies.
	So most of us have been on dates already.
	Of course, we're a bit older, been on multiple dates.
	But what disqualifies a guy for you on a date?
	For example, it could be hygiene, it could be how he looks.
	What does it disqualify for you on a first date?
	I guess we'll start, like, right here.
	Absolutely, it's gonna be your hygiene.
	You have to know how to brush your teeth, kind of wipe your own ass, right?
	Things of that sort.
	Things I shouldn't have to tell you you need to do, right?
	All right, what about you?
	Have you encountered many men who don't know how to wipe their ass?
	Wait, how'd you find out, though?
	When I do their laundry.
	Okay, there you go.
	Thanks, Mom.
	If you give them enough GHB, they just poop on themselves.
	Isn't that right?
	Isn't that what you told me?
	Isn't that what you told me, Summer?
	What about you?
	Hygiene is a big one for me.
	Rose, give her that mic and Summer, take that mic.
	Okay, when you say hygiene, can you tell us an example from a date?
	Yeah, like, brush your teeth, please.
	Always brush your teeth.
	What if they smell like weed?
	That's fine?
	Yeah, that's totally fine.
	I don't mind that.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	So for me, I think it would be, like, poor communication skills and social skills.
	Like, how does he communicate with his peers and other people?
	But how would you get to know that if you don't go on a first date with him?
	Well, I've been on a first date with some important communication skills.
	Yeah, but you won't know until you're on a date with them, right?
	Yeah, true.
	Okay.
	So what disqualifies them from the first date then?
	Let me come back to you.
	What about you?
	Question, are we already on the first date?
	No, like you're not even going to give them a chance.
	Oh, that's hard because I usually...
	Okay.
	He can only squat four plates.
	No.
	What's an automatic disqualifier that first thing that comes to mind?
	Um, sometimes if they're a little too sexual at first without...
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I think the same.
	If he tries to kiss you...
	And sexual with a little bit of, like, too much, like, being demanding a little bit of, like, disrespect.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	What about you?
	If he tries to kiss you, like, no.
	They usually want to.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	That implies that you're on the first date already.
	We're talking about before you...
	Yeah, no.
	In our first date, they will, like, try to...
	No, no, no.
	Before the first date.
	Let's clarify.
	Before you even get on the date, the guy won't ask on the date, how do you just say no, disqualified, not even going on a date at all?
	Yeah, I mean, if they start asking about, like, your friends, like, oh, can you bring a friend?
	Okay.
	Then you'll be like, bye.
	So bringing two girls...
	They usually always do.
	Yeah.
	Talk about their friends.
	They tell you to bring a friend?
	Yeah.
	Oh, can you bring friends?
	Now, hold on, hold on.
	Is it to bring a friend so that they can bring a friend too and it's a double date?
	Or bring a friend so he can take you and your friend out?
	Maybe.
	But, you know, guys try to just ask that.
	Which one is it though?
	Whichever one.
	I mean, I don't really go on first dates like that.
	I don't do blind dates, but I think if it was like that, usually guys, when you're texting and stuff, they're like, oh, and you have friends or something like that, and it's like, that's it.
	You just stop talking to them.
	Okay.
	Hey, lady, I have a question.
	What about if he doesn't like it when you rip his shirt off in the middle of a nightclub?
	Okay, you have to bring that up.
	I don't do that anymore.
	What about you?
	What about biting random people in a nightclub?
	I was a little wild.
	She was famous.
	She'd go out in the clubs and just rip dudes shirts off and just fucking run.
	I had like this wheel power.
	That's hilarious.
	It was amazing.
	And I always used to pick the ones that had the most expensive shirts.
	Funny thing is, that's not a deal breaker for the guys.
	Yeah, they'll be like, please.
	But no, they like it.
	All right.
	What about you?
	So, immediate disqualifiers.
	If I'm looking on a dating app at someone, it's going to be image-based, most likely.
	So, it's going to be someone who's either really out of shape or someone who has, you know, a lot of balding going on and someone who probably doesn't have...
	You don't have to have a ton of swag, but if you don't know how to dress yourself, you look like you haven't left your mom's house in several years, it's a disqualifier.
	That's what I was going to say is physical fitness.
	I don't like to paint a broad stroke over all people because I think some people, you know, might have certain things that are stronger in some aspects.
	And so if someone was a liberal, hypothetically, I'm not, but and they were really strong in other areas.
	For example, they're really successful or really high achievers or very good looking.
	Potentially, I'd give them a chance.
	So I wouldn't say that's an immediate disqualifier.
	It's not a green flag.
	But yeah, image-based.
	And then in person, it just made me think I was walking my dog the other day.
	Hold on, hold on.
	This is just the first disqualifier.
	What about you?
	For me, it would have to be like overly bragging about themselves.
	On their bio?
	Yeah, or even when you're communicating with them.
	Text, phone call, try hard.
	Yeah, it's always about just them and their story.
	Being a porn star, do you get that a lot?
	I do.
	I do.
	Well, it's, you know.
	They want to prove to you.
	They want to prove that they're that guy.
	Okay.
	Understandable.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think that personality is a big thing.
	Like, if they come across way too strong, that's kind of a big withdrawal.
	Describe strong.
	Like, I'm just overexcited to talk to you and try to take you out and stuff like that.
	All right.
	Too much interest.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	What about you?
	No sense of humor.
	No sense of humor?
	Okay.
	So are you gonna like, like if you make a joke and they don't like laugh or something like that?
	No, they need to make jokes.
	They need to make the jokes.
	I like when they're funny.
	But you're a comedian, right?
	Yeah, so I need to laugh too.
	Are you funny?
	Sometimes.
	Depends on the person.
	Some people think I'm funny, some people think I don't.
	I'm not.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I'd say basic, bad grammar, too skinny, gang of kids, and how many women they follow in their follow list.
	Damn!
	Bad grammar, kids, and follow ratio.
	Roll off and Sartain real quick.
	What are them for you?
	Disqualifiers.
	Disqualifier for me would be just like sort of...
	It's so funny because it's like the girls I'm friends with are exactly the girls I would never fucking date.
	I love them.
	They're hilarious.
	I love having them on my show.
	They make a great show.
	But, you know, just like full of fucking red flags, like bragging about levels of independence and necessity to not have...
	Not need a man at all.
	Being independent is fine, but it's just like one of these things where like men are useless or something like that.
	Or just basically when you have a conversation with them about like, hey, you know, you're more likely to cheat if you fuck more guys before you got married.
	And they disagree.
	They start yelling at you because of that.
	Like that type of shit.
	I think that's a huge disqualifier.
	Just they don't bring any peace.
	All right.
	She's overweight.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Oh, damn.
	No, I mean, as far as-- Physical fitness?
	Well, I think it's funny because people always say, oh, you can't judge a book by its cover, but it's like, yeah, but you've got to see what the cover is, right?
	I hate to say it, but I'm just being honest.
	You can judge its caloric intake by the cover.
	Exactly.
	Because it says a lot about your habits, too.
	If you're in shape, that tells me that you have some sort of dedication and perseverance.
	Especially today, it's like 75% of the population is overweight.
	All right.
	I got a question for the ladies.
	Real quick, she didn't answer.
	So I would say at first glance, physical fitness.
	Are you going to be healthy?
	Are you going to live long?
	Are you going to protect me?
	Ah, you just like me.
	Okay, we can start hearing their work our way back.
	Assuming the guy checks all your boxes and he's attractive and you would see yourself going on a first date with him, does it matter where he takes you?
	Yes or no?
	Yes.
	Why?
	Because I think...
	You're representing what you're going to be in the long run.
	I don't like the coffee date.
	I don't like dates that are basic, unimaginative.
	You don't have to take me to the most expensive restaurant, but you should think about it.
	I don't like a man that looks like he's just playing numbers.
	Okay.
	Assuming you find the guy attractive.
	Chili's is okay.
	Applebee's?
	Chili's?
	I hate Applebee's.
	Real quick, assuming you like the guy and he checks your boxes, he's funny, he's witty, he's charismatic and all these things in conversation, does it matter where he takes you on the first date?
	Yes.
	Okay, why?
	Well, if you're talking like restaurant-wise, no, not necessarily, but I just don't like to be like hanging out in the front seat of a fucking car.
	Okay, assuming it's not him telling you to come over to his house or let's hang out, you know, doing something strange that puts you in a safety situation.
	To be completely honest, not really.
	Okay, then it doesn't matter.
	Yeah, let me make sure I add that caveat.
	If he's attractive and you find everything about him to be up to standard, etc., and he invites you on a date and it's nothing weird where your safety is at, you know, risk, doesn't matter where he takes you.
	I definitely don't think it does.
	Okay, what about you?
	I do, I do.
	Okay, why does it matter?
	I like an adventure and I like something, you know, exciting.
	Okay.
	Alright, what about you?
	So it's not a deal breaker, but I'm taking notes.
	For example, I had that exact situation happen a few weeks ago.
	A great guy took me to Benihana, which was fun and cute, not super expensive, and it was not a deal breaker.
	But it told me a little bit, I think, about maybe his socioeconomic status or his level of investment in me or what kind of, you know, restaurants he likes to frequent.
	And that indicates to me lifestyle compatibility.
	So it's not a deal breaker, but I'm taking notes.
	You're bougie, huh?
	Sorry?
	You're bougie.
	I mean, you're a matchmaker, so you understand the male perspective.
	Wouldn't it be fair to say that a lot of women go out for certain experiences and that's a screening tactic to get rid of women that are there just for an experience versus to get to know the guy?
	I certainly, from a man's perspective, could see that.
	You know, if a man does not want a gold digger, he might test her that way.
	But from a woman's perspective, it's a test too.
	Because I want to see how much you want to impress me as a man.
	I don't think men think that deeply.
	I don't think they think that deeply to, oh, let me do this to screen her.
	The majority are looking for the fastest way to the vagina.
	I don't think they're thinking, well, let me do this and see.
	They're hoping that she likes them no matter what he does.
	That's what they're hoping.
	I'm not suggesting that men are testing women.
	I'm just saying if that's the case, for myself, So it's not a disqualifier.
	You'll go out, but you're going to be observing what goes on.
	I'm taking notes.
	And I also look at it holistically.
	You know, if someone, if that's the best that they can do and I see potential in them and they're ambitious, maybe I will give them a chance.
	Interesting.
	Okay.
	I disagree with you on that point because the guys that women want are going to absolutely employ that test that you don't think is a test.
	But that's fine.
	No, no.
	The women will.
	I'm saying the men.
	No, I'm talking about the guys will employ the test where they take her to somewhere that isn't necessarily as expensive or luxurious to see how she responds.
	What tax bracket is he in, though?
	Because I think a regular average...
	No, I'm serious.
	A regular average working guy will ask, hey, let's do coffee, and he's hoping that she likes him enough.
	But that's why I qualified it by saying the men that are attractive, that women want, that have the net worth and the status, a lot of the times they'll test women by taking them somewhere that isn't expensive to see how they react.
	Well, that I agree with.
	If he's in a certain tax bracket, I'm talking about the guy that...
	But you'll never know.
	You'll disqualify that guy.
	And you'll be like, oh, you tried to offer me the coffee, I'm not going.
	Well, I've been lucky enough to date guys that don't play games.
	That's a game.
	That's not a game.
	No, it's a game.
	It's literally a game.
	It's the definition of a game.
	It's literally a game.
	Wouldn't it be fair to say that women are the ones that play the game because the man has to attract her to some degree for the game to even begin?
	I would say that women play a lot more games than men, yes, but that's a game.
	I date guys that are like, this is what I'm worth, this is what I'm coming with.
	Either you like it or you don't.
	I feel like it's more of a self-preservation tactic than a game.
	Maybe he's protecting himself from being taken advantage of or used for their own reasons.
	No, but what's the point of a date though?
	Again, I asked, what's the tax bracket?
	Because men of means are not going to play this game.
	They're just not.
	Benny Hanna is fucking awesome.
	Benny Hanna is great.
	I love Benny Hanna.
	I hate Benny Hanna.
	I've never heard of it.
	To me, it's a king restaurant.
	Guys, guys, guys.
	One microphone at a time.
	Because anytime you're speaking and there's other people speaking, it hurts the quiet of the show.
	And the audience gets really annoyed.
	So if someone's speaking, please be quiet.
	So real quick.
	A date.
	What's the point of a date?
	To get to know the person.
	So is that a game?
	No, it's not a game.
	It doesn't have to be a game.
	You said it's a game.
	Listen, I didn't say it's a game.
	I said someone that's pretending to be something they're not to test you, that is a game.
	That's like me showing up to a date.
	I'm showing up in a bonnet and slippers to see if he really likes me.
	That's a game.
	I'm playing a game.
	The point is to get to know someone on a deeper level, right?
	So whether it's at Starbucks or at Fontainebleau, does it really matter?
	If he's pretending that he can only afford Starbucks, that is a game, sir.
	That's a game.
	But he's not pretending because he can afford both.
	He can afford both.
	But if he's doing it with the intention to test her, that is a game.
	It's simple math.
	No, no.
	I understand that.
	But what I'm saying is that women play the game, too.
	Absolutely.
	Okay, so for someone to play chess with you, you need an opponent, correct?
	Yes.
	So therefore, women play the game, so men play the game as well.
	It's just that women don't like it when men play the game as well, if not better than themselves.
	That's why women don't like that.
	Well, I mean, it doesn't matter to me.
	It's not gender specific.
	Women and men play games.
	Yeah, but women play games the majority of the time.
	It's just that very few men can actually compete and play the game back and better yet at them.
	I agree with that as well.
	So what I'm saying is that the reason why guys will employ a tactic like that, especially high net worth individuals, because I know them and I know that they do this, is because there's a lot of vulturous women out there that are just looking for a bag or looking to get an experience, etc.
	So let me test this chick.
	Let's go to get some coffee and see how she responds.
	And if she says, no, I'm good.
	I don't want that.
	Fuck you.
	That's how they move.
	Yeah.
	But you know men of means are not a monolith because I know wealthy men as well and they're like, hey, I don't give a damn.
	I want someone that looks good on my arm.
	You got a six pack.
	You got a nice round booty.
	I'm good with that.
	I know you're here for the money and I'm here because you look good.
	Then they're just smashed.
	That's an L for you as a female anyway.
	What's not an L, if all she wants to do is smash, there's this theory that men don't just, that women don't just want to smash.
	Newsflash guys, lots of women just want to smash and they want a guy that's going to take them to really nice places while they're smashing!
	While they're smashing!
	I want to smash!
	Because here's the thing, the majority of men aren't running rampant looking for wives.
	The majority of them are looking to smash.
	So women are like, I don't mind smashing, but I'd rather smash after no boo than after Starbucks.
	Yeah, so you just defeated your own argument, because women treat sex as a value-loaded exchange, not an equal value exchange like you're trying to say.
	It's not an equal value exchange.
	It's, I need something in return for the sex, and a lot of times that means I need more energy and effort than I put in to get the sex.
	What I'm saying is that, cool, that guy could put that effort in or whatever, and if he has the means and the money to do so, but you're just going to be put in a sex-only category and never get the relationship that you want.
	Right, but again, women are not a monolith.
	Some women don't care.
	A lot of women don't care, especially today.
	Especially today.
	Most women want a long-term relationship with a man of substance to some degree.
	The recreational sex, there's always a time clock on it.
	So, I mean, what you're saying, cool, will some girls employ that tactic for a period of time?
	Yes, but it's always periodic.
	I do agree that women, they exchange, like, I'm going to give you this because I want that.
	I do agree.
	And here's the funny part, too.
	The very man that you said that you would disqualify for the coffee date, that's the guy that more than likely is probably looking for something serious because he wanted to screen a woman out from the beginning versus the guy that you mentioned, I'm going to be a baller and spend money.
	He's clearly looking for sex and be just saying, let's go to no, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And that's not what most women are looking for.
	I'm not most women, plus I'm older than a lot of these girls.
	These girls are probably looking for husbands and long romances.
	I'm like, can you smash?
	Is it going to be good?
	Are we going to be in expensive places?
	Let's rock and let's get it over with.
	We have to consider, too, what phase are these women in?
	How many of you want to get married?
	Most women don't want to be single at 50.
	That's a terrible strategy.
	But I do.
	A majority of women don't, though.
	What you want is an anomaly, and most women are not looking for that.
	That's a recipe for disaster.
	I disagree.
	I think women in my age bracket are not looking for long-term romance and looking to take care of a man and looking to wash drawers like you mentioned that have Hershey streaks in them.
	You think that most women want to be single at 50?
	At my age, I think we're pretty much...
	But you're starting at your age.
	I'm saying most women in general.
	Ladies, raise your hand if you want to be single at 50.
	No, no, no.
	Most of them want to get married because at this age, that's what they're thinking.
	You know what?
	That's what they're thinking in their 20s.
	I'm 46.
	Over the course of my life, I would like to maybe get married at some point and have kids.
	But to the point, what you're saying, if you're starting at 50, yeah, for sure.
	But in general, these women want to get married.
	We don't have time like you do, Michael.
	But that's why I just said most of these women are looking for long-term relationships and romance and what have you.
	Absolutely.
	At your guys' age, I was there.
	I respectfully disagree with you.
	I respectfully disagree with you with the notion that women who are childless and single at 50 are happy that way because one quarter of childless women regret not having kids.
	Okay, but I'm not childless.
	Okay, well...
	And I'm happy.
	Okay, well I also work with a lot of single moms.
	Okay, but you don't work with me.
	I understand.
	I'm just, I'm just, but you're making blanket statements.
	Okay.
	So I'm going to, well you can say, here's the thing, on my podcast, on the block with Jen, I literally hold up a sign, some, not all, to make everyone comfortable.
	Because I make a blanket statement and everyone says, hey, but, you know, that's not all women.
	So I literally hold up a sign that says, not all.
	Okay, well, you did make a blanket statement about women your age being very happy and wanting to be single.
	No, no, no.
	I said I'm happy and I'm single.
	I said a lot of older women are not worried about the things that younger women are worried about.
	When I was that age, I was thinking that way.
	Okay, I hear that, but that's not what you said.
	What I heard you say was women who are 50 at your age do not want or want to be single.
	Right?
	Yes.
	And I disagree with that point.
	You're saying most women at 50 want to be single.
	Most older women, they're filing for divorce, right?
	Because they're tired of taking care of men.
	Absolutely, yes.
	And they're depressed.
	I think we've established that most women are not like you.
	You're a one special unicorn here at the end of the fucking table.
	Can I bring up something?
	I should also point out the fact that just because it's affecting you does not mean you are the banner wearer for all the women.
	I totally agree.
	It's not the majority.
	Most women who are pushing 50 right now, they're in menopause right now.
	They do not look like you.
	They do not live the same lifestyle as you.
	Again, walk from the TSA at Las Vegas airport, go to your gate, and look at the people on the way.
	Put your phone away.
	That's the average person.
	Not you.
	That's the average person.
	Let me say something real quick.
	So for those of a lot of guys, Myron and I were talking about real estate right before this.
	A lot of guys trying to stack their money and try to leave generational wealth for their family.
	This is one of the best books I've ever read.
	It's called The Millionaire Next Door.
	And one of the things they talk about is for men who end up gaining that amount of money, one of the most common indicators is if the wife is actually more stingy than the husband.
	So if I want generational wealth, having a woman who ends up being a sieve on my finances is not the way to do it.
	So me wanting to find a woman who's more stingy than I am, which I have one now, that's actually a huge plus for me.
	And I still want to take care of her.
	I would spend more money on her if she wanted me to, but I don't because she's more stingy than I am.
	So that's actually a huge way for men to keep their wealth.
	And so again, I highly recommend one of the best books I've ever read, The Millionaire Next Door.
	It's really, really great when it goes over the socioeconomic status of people who become millionaires.
	Where else?
	We're moving on.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So if you like the guy and everything actually matches up and you're attracted to him, doesn't matter where he takes you on the first day, assuming there's no safety risk.
	I like nice, pretty places from the first date, so...
	So it doesn't matter?
	But I do like good places, like I'm not gonna go...
	I mean, I want some excitement if it's the first time, you know?
	But it doesn't matter, you can get excitement anywhere though, so it doesn't matter where it takes you is my question.
	I think I would rather go to a nice place.
	Would you sleep with him after, Mushy Mushy?
	I don't know.
	Mushibushi is a nice place.
	How do you not know Mushibushi?
	Hold on.
	Hold on, hold on.
	I got you.
	Komodo or Kiki on the river?
	Both.
	Oh, Kiki on the river.
	Which one?
	Yeah, I love it.
	Which one?
	Kiki.
	Komodo or Booby Trap?
	W. Booby Trap.
	So if you liked the guy and you found him attractive, you would still want to go somewhere nice.
	So where you go does matter.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	It does matter in the sense of I'd rather a coffee date a drink or like a dinner rather than somebody saying hey I have a table at a club because I've had that before like hey I have this table at the club if you want to come through I don't like that okay I want to be able to talk to the person okay so for you it's not it's more of a logistical situation not necessarily a financial situation no yeah no I don't care about the finances we can go to Starbucks for all I care okay I agree.
	So for you, it's a yes, but it's around the premise of being able to speak to the individual.
	Yeah, it's my first date.
	I want to get to know him.
	It doesn't matter.
	I don't think it matters.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Assuming the guy is attractive and everything is met requirement-wise and it's not going to be unsafe, does it matter where he takes you?
	No, it doesn't matter for me.
	No?
	Okay.
	I should say no, but I will say yes, it does matter.
	If we're gonna go eat, it has to be something that fits my diet.
	I'm not gonna sit there and eat something that is...
	What is your diet specifically?
	Clean food.
	No fast food.
	Nothing that's like processed foods, right?
	So I might give a suggestion that's within the same budget realm, right?
	But I'm not just gonna go eat shit just to please you.
	Okay, let's assume he didn't suggest something with food.
	Does it matter?
	No.
	It only matters if it's a restaurant that you can't eat at.
	And then also no nightclubs, something of that sort, right?
	What if it's Chuck E. Cheese?
	Something that fits within our normal lifestyles.
	I don't have any children, but if he does have children, right, and you want to take your kids, I think that would be a fun first date.
	Then I also get to meet your kids.
	With the kids?
	I get to meet your kids.
	First date at Chuck E. Cheese?
	Seriously?
	If you want to go there, and let's say we become friends.
	I'm not fucking you.
	I'm not doing any of that on the first date, right?
	On the first date, you would go to Chuck E. Cheese?
	This is my situation.
	You're laying it all right out there for me.
	It's my decision if I want to continue on with that after that, but you're not hiding.
	That is my next question.
	So, mall food court is okay.
	If you don't mind.
	So, based off of that, Does location matter to you, and where should a first date be?
	I don't think his mic is working on it.
	I don't think his mic is working on it.
	Can we work on that?
	Thank you.
	So, based off of that answer, what is a good location for a date?
	You'd say a first date.
	Good location.
	I think a really good first date might be nothing secluded like a park, because that's almost too mushy-mushy, right?
	You don't need to be doing anything like that.
	But somewhere in a public setting, not too loud, but also something to where if it does go awkwardly, you have distractions around you, right?
	Not a movie theater.
	So you can escape?
	This is assuming that you like the guy and he's attractive and safety isn't an issue.
	What would the ideal first date be?
	Still these things with the whole escape situation?
	No.
	My best first date was actually at a casino.
	We were able to meet up, go gamble, and if we wanted to, still have the option to eat.
	There's so many options at the casinos here in town.
	Who paid for the gambling?
	I paid for my own and he paid for his own.
	And then I just matched whatever he was able to play to not make him feel uncomfortable.
	Wait, you're a semi-pro poker player.
	I am.
	Oh yeah, I'm also a professional poker player.
	Nuh-uh.
	Okay.
	So you play poker against him.
	I did not.
	We actually played blackjack in Baccarat.
	What about you?
	Assuming you like the guy and safety is an issue, what would the ideal first date be?
	Ideal first date?
	I want to go on a hike and I want you to bring a picnic and bring me some, you know, a joint.
	Grapes.
	Ideal.
	And what would you bring to the hike?
	I definitely would have the joint.
	My ideal first date, I don't want to bring something.
	My ideal first date, I want to be taken somewhere beautiful.
	I want to be able to have a conversation.
	Hikes are nice.
	On a cool experience.
	What about you?
	Ideal first date, assuming you like the guy.
	Let's go to like a house party or a pool party.
	Let me see who you hang out with, meet friends.
	I'll cook something and bring it like a potluck.
	That would be really fun.
	Okay, cool.
	I guess with my boyfriend right now, how we met.
	Or not how we met.
	Our first date was just at a Golden Tiki here in Vegas.
	It's just like a cool dive bar.
	And we got to talk and just hang out.
	And then we decided if we want to persist, keep going with the date.
	Did he pay for it?
	Or did you guys put it?
	I can hardly wait.
	Actually, he paid for it, which was very sweet.
	If he would ask to split...
	Actually, it depends on how he asks to split.
	I actually don't mind splitting.
	Because I understand, like, making money these days is kind of hard, especially for men, so it's like...
	But would you actually like that, though, if he split the bill with you, to be honest?
	Well, I used to be a sugar mama, so, like, I'm not...
	Sugar mama?
	Yeah, so I'm not too upset with it, but I know he's a gentleman, so he probably wouldn't like it.
	I bring you all types, gentlemen.
	I bring you all types.
	What about you?
	Where would an ideal first day be with someone that you actually like and find a track of?
	My place.
	Just kidding.
	Ha ha ha!
	Why are you staring at me?
	Don't get me in your shit.
	No, because I know you always have something funny to say about me.
	But, anyways, just like a nice restaurant, a nice place.
	Maybe romantic, too.
	Does it have to be five-star?
	No, no, but it has to just be, like, nice.
	You know, there is, like, other...
	Give us an example, because your nice might not necessarily be...
	Okay, well, there is not very expensive restaurants that, like, holes in the walls, but they're, like, nice, like...
	Okay, how about this?
	Give me an example of a restaurant in Miami so I can let the audience know.
	Let's think about Miami.
	That you'd be okay with?
	Maybe like a Colombian restaurant that would be okay.
	Las Vegas?
	No, you know in Sunny Isles there is this like little small restaurants, places like that.
	So, a hole in the wall.
	Interesting.
	But they're nice inside.
	Like, in all sunny aisles, like, in front of, like, porch building, there is, like, little, like, squishy places, like, stuff like that.
	Like, it could be anywhere.
	But as long as it's nice and, like...
	I kind of like those little mom and pop shops.
	There's like one in the world, and they're in a corner, and the food is so authentic and so good.
	Because it's intimate, but safe.
	And it's not very spendy, but it's an amazing experience.
	I love that.
	Yeah, but that contradicts what you said a second ago when I asked, and you said, when I said if the guy was nice and everything, and you found him attractive, you said it needed to be a nice restaurant.
	Now you're saying, if it was first date, it could be a hole in the wall.
	I mean, I'm not saying like a ghetto place, but like, that's what I'm telling you in front of Sunny Isles.
	It's like nice places, but it's like...
	A nice hole in the wall.
	But yeah, a nice five-star hole in the wall.
	Can I ask you a question?
	I realize that you are also in a relationship.
	Where did you take your girlfriend on your first date with her?
	That's a good question.
	I will answer that after we get through our line of questions.
	I'm totally cool with answering that.
	But I don't want to influence answers.
	What about you?
	So I'll preface this by saying my answer is based on the fact that I've been taken on some really beautiful, wonderful dates to some amazing places, but I'm not a snob in the sense that I'll reject someone who doesn't take me to this kind of place.
	But my ideal is probably Nobu Malibu or Soho House Malibu or Catch Steak, something like that.
	Somewhere very nice.
	What about Mastro's?
	I like Mastro's too.
	Any guy who goes there is cheating on you.
	You just know that, right?
	I haven't gone on a first date to Mastro's.
	Any guy who's gonna take you to Mastro's in fucking Malibu is fucking cheating on you.
	Tell me I'm wrong.
	Put it in the chat.
	One example where I'm fucking wrong.
	That is the truth.
	It's like, Huntington Beach, Mastros.
	He's like, literally there trying to pick up hookers.
	Like, what are you talking about?
	Oh, sorry.
	I love Mastros, but you know, whatever.
	Alright, what about you?
	I'm a little bit more down to earth.
	I would like an ideal date would be to a music event or doing something like an activity, ice skating, going to an event.
	Assuming you like the guy, right?
	Assuming I like him, yes.
	So some kind of activity.
	Sports event.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I think that an ideal first date should be something that that person finds really intriguing or something that he thinks that I would find really intriguing.
	So it would basically give me a cue into my ideal?
	Yeah, but it's your ideal.
	Give us an example.
	Something that tells me more about him.
	So if he is really into, let's say, a music event and he wants to take me to a festival, then cool, I know that he loves music.
	If he wants to go on a food tour, cool, I know he loves food, stuff like that.
	So you want to see his world, basically.
	Yeah.
	See what it's about.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	What if it's something like...
	I don't know, a Warhammer event.
	I knew that was coming!
	You know, realistically, if that's what he's into and I like him, I'm interested in Warhammer.
	I knew that was coming.
	What is it?
	Okay, never mind.
	Only if he plays Tauri.
	Don't make him know what this is.
	Immediate same night lay with Warhammer.
	Because I don't know what that is.
	What is that?
	It's okay.
	None of the ladies here are going to know.
	What about you?
	I mean, now that I think about it, Chuck E. Cheese sounds really fun.
	I would go to Chuck E. Cheese.
	I just like fun stuff.
	Assuming you like him.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Assuming you like him.
	Where's the ideal first place for you?
	If I like him already, I'm open to whatever.
	I think that's, you know...
	Even a coffee date?
	But see, every man doesn't qualify for that.
	Listen, every man...
	I thought the same shit.
	Listen, can I be frank without hurting feelings?
	Castle.
	Okay.
	So, initial meeting, right?
	I like what I like.
	I'm attracted.
	Let's just say I'm just going to use two of you as an example.
	What's your name again?
	I'm sorry.
	Fresh?
	Okay, so I'm just chilling somewhere on a park bench.
	Michael walks up.
	You walk up five minutes apart.
	Michael can say, hey, I'm not really familiar with this place.
	You want to grab a cup of coffee?
	I'm going.
	Look at the body.
	What the fuck?
	So check this out.
	I think that the men that don't qualify for the yell, take the coffee, get mad, but everybody doesn't qualify for anything.
	So yeah, some guys have to work a little harder, they have to impress a little bit more, and some guys just come in, and you guys do it too with women.
	If a woman's very attractive, you'll give her more of a pass, and if she's not, you're like, well kind of prove yourself, because you're not really my type.
	But I'm willing to work with you because you're a nice person.
	You're probably a very nice person.
	But I'm like, you're gonna have to work.
	You don't have to take me somewhere nice.
	Physical attraction is big and we ignore that.
	I'd be like, let's go to Starbucks.
	I'll do that.
	I'm physically attracted to this Rolls Royce.
	Because I asked this earlier.
	I said, assuming you're attracted to the guy and he checks the boxes, you know, what would be unacceptable when you set a coffee date?
	But now you're saying you'd be okay with a coffee date if the guy...
	You're contradicting yourself.
	No, no.
	Then I misunderstood.
	Because when you first asked, I thought that you were like, okay, you're just meeting someone initially.
	You're meeting someone initially.
	However, I'm about, you know...
	Okay, so the man's attractiveness directly influences where he can and can't take you.
	110% for me.
	So in this case, what's an ideal first date for you?
	Could be coffee?
	Yo mama, whoever said that.
	What's an ideal first date for you?
	Ideal first date.
	Just somewhere we can have fun and get to know each other.
	Somewhere where it's not too loud.
	Not too much physical activity.
	But I like weird shit.
	There's a bouncy house coming to Vegas.
	I would do that as long as a guy got good news.
	That thing was fucking awesome.
	You guys seen that?
	It's like four football fields of bouncy houses.
	Yeah, I would do that.
	You're going to all get Legionnaire's disease, but man, that was so much fun.
	I would do that.
	I have one follow-up question.
	So all of you guys, very interesting.
	All of you guys have pretty lower standards when it comes to if you're attracted to the guy, what you're willing to go out on a date, assuming you like the guy.
	But the only person that had something fancy with the five-star is you, with the Nobu, etc.
	My question is, are you, assuming you're on a date with a guy like that, are you okay with him not being monogamous?
	I shouldn't say this on air.
	I mean, let's be realistic.
	You're a matchmaker, you know.
	Sure, yeah.
	So I personally try to date men who are at an age range where they've already had their fun.
	Now, I understand the more options a man has, the more likely he has to exercise those options.
	So I have some rules when it comes to cheating.
	And that is, if you're going to cheat, be discreet.
	I don't want to know about it.
	You better not embarrass me.
	You better not father kids.
	Don't bring any STDs.
	I don't want to know about it.
	If I know about it, that's going to cause problems.
	So someone's fairly realistic.
	That's like the most Los Angeles thing I've ever heard.
	Because it seems like we have three bougie girls here at the panel.
	What about you?
	Are you willing to accept the guy that cheats?
	Yeah, I'm not jealous at all.
	I never felt any type of jealousy, even if I find out.
	I'm like, okay, whatever.
	So, yeah, I think it doesn't bother me because when you know you have that person and they come into you and it's just like the love and you feel it, nothing could break it.
	Would have you accepted cheating ten years ago?
	Yeah.
	You would have?
	Okay.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	I already know someone in a certain tax bracket is going to have lots of options.
	I'm not going to go into it delusional at all.
	I know what it is.
	So even putting like rules, those rules are great, but I think they're unrealistic.
	You know, like you can cheat, but don't bring me a disease.
	You can cheat, but don't be a disease.
	Men aren't thinking that when they're with other women.
	They just want to smash.
	The thing I want to emphasize though is, like I said, I better not find out about it.
	I don't want chicks in my DMs.
	I don't want to know.
	For me, ignorance is bliss.
	I'm not promoting it.
	I live in reality though.
	But let me ask you something.
	Reality, when you say there's going to be problems, you're dating a guy who's worth $50 million, what problems are you going to give him?
	He's going to say goodbye next.
	You said, if I find out, there's going to be a problem.
	What problem are you going to give a man worth $50 million?
	The problem is it's going to create emotional issues in the relationship.
	Okay, and then you get too emotional and he's like, he's worth $50 million.
	What problems are you going to cause him is my question.
	I love this New York, LA discussion.
	It's very different there.
	Women trying to date men at the top.
	It's true.
	It's an honest question.
	Men make money like that to tell women to fuck off that piss them off.
	That annoy them.
	They literally tell them fuck off.
	It sounds good.
	There's going to be trouble.
	I'm worth 50 million.
	Yeah.
	I mean, once you go up the social ladder as a female, you literally have less and less leverage with what you can impose on the man.
	Even if he tells you, oh, no, baby, it's okay, he's still going to keep doing what he does.
	So it's like, women want successful men, but they don't want to deal with successful problems a lot of times.
	Can I ask a question, Nellie?
	You said, what's the age group that you were saying passed his fun phase?
	What was that?
	Well, 85.
	The reason why I'm asking is if the guy just gets on TRT. Like, he's 55 and he's still...
	Testosterone replacement therapy.
	Okay, so here's the thing.
	Let's talk about...
	Actually, I have an example of this.
	So my sister is 25 years old, 26.
	She's married to a 65-year-old.
	Okay.
	Who is worth almost a billion dollars.
	Okay.
	Sounds normal.
	He's at an age where he ain't fucking around with other girls.
	It's not happening.
	Now, I'm not trying to date a 65.
	For myself personally, my sweet spot is like 38 to 45.
	Okay.
	That's my idea.
	Is the guy in shape?
	Yeah.
	He's cheating on your sister.
	Yeah, he's probably smashing on your sister.
	He's cheating on your sister.
	I've got, I've got, here's the thing.
	When you live at a country club and there's no one around.
	He's cheating on your sister.
	Absolutely he is.
	That's crazy.
	You're living on the country club.
	I will tell you, I'm not going to say I've ever been like someone else's other woman, but just because you live on a country club, I've lived on a country club and I've seen people smashing on the golf course.
	This is probably not their wife.
	Now, that's something that has to be realistic.
	Well, their wife probably doesn't look like myself.
	That's something that just needs to be realistic, right?
	When someone is worth almost a billion dollars, your sister is a dime a dozen.
	I'm sure she's very attractive when you say, she doesn't look like my sister.
	She's a dime a dozen to him.
	Pretty girls are common.
	I don't want to digress from the topic.
	Fresh, did you want to hit me up?
	Fresh, you can use your old mic now, too.
	Okay.
	And then also, yeah, we got a picture that we're gonna show you guys here.
	Wait, I got one question for you.
	Where'd you go on your first date, brother?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Well, hold on.
	Is that gonna interrupt the...
	It will fuck with the...
	You can hold off to the next one.
	I know what Fresh is going to be.
	Fresh, you do your thing first, and then Myron, go ahead.
	I'll answer it after.
	But I will answer.
	I'm transparent.
	Let's show the image on the screen.
	This is the meme that's been going viral for a couple days here.
	It's still not working.
	Okay, so let's do this.
	Gray Mike goes to Fresh, and then could you two share, Lana and...
	Rolo, read your chats, and then we'll read our chats after.
	We'll read chats, then we'll get into the picture and get the lady's thoughts on it.
	You want me to do mine?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Okay, so I have a couple here.
	First off, let me say thank you to Andy Correa.
	Thank you for the super chat there.
	Also, Anejo.
	Ask her if it was Warren Jeff's cult.
	Is that Warren Jeff's cult?
	Yes, that's the cult.
	That was the one you were in?
	Okay, cool.
	Yeah, because there's a Netflix documentary on it.
	Yes, it came out last year.
	Okay.
	Black Ronin, IS Myron, and Rollo, I want Michael's perspective as well.
	I'm leaving.
	I'm 25, leaving for the Air Force in a month.
	How do I become more dominant when I used to be walkover?
	The military is going to help you with that, man.
	But I don't know if you're an officer.
	Just hit me up on DM, and I'll give you some info.
	Study command presence.
	Anybody who's joining the military, if you want advice from me, just hit me up.
	I'll definitely help you guys out.
	Also, Siege D, I know you prefer books, but you have seen three identical strangers.
	I don't know what this is.
	Nature vs.
	Energy Dynamic.
	Intel Wild, is Outback on the first date.
	Is that good enough, ladies?
	Outback Steakhouse.
	Give it a thumbs up or a thumbs out.
	That was my first date.
	Who's a thumbs down for Outback Steakhouse?
	Anybody have a thumbs down?
	That Bloomin' Onion's a motherfucker, isn't it?
	Cool, I'm done.
	Go ahead.
	Sage D, thanks to you.
	The more genetically gifted a guy is, the lazier he can be.
	God, I got some good ones.
	As two slightly above average guys, we can't ease off of the acceleration.
	Thank you very much.
	Let's see.
	Who was the brokest man you were with and why?
	Jen has got a grand slam.
	She's the only one that needs to be...
	Jen was digmatized by a homeless guy.
	No one is gonna beat me.
	I actually was, I was in love with a guy who very quickly, yeah, that's what I used to think about it back then.
	Wait, wait, stop, stop, stop.
	Continue.
	I was in love with a man when I was a lot younger who was in a home and then very quickly ended up homeless.
	And I took him into my home.
	So I was with a hobosexual.
	You said he fucked you like his rent depended on it?
	Oh fuck yeah.
	They always do though.
	Because that's all they have.
	I got this one.
	Rational Trucker says, Rolo, please explain to the ladies what the hoop earrings and the color red mean.
	Women of all backgrounds wear hoops.
	Okay, so here's the deal.
	This is the explanation for why we say the bigger the hoop, the bigger the hoe.
	I was explaining it to Domo off-camera here before.
	If you go and you look at any porn movie right now, Odds are, the women are wearing hoop earrings.
	The reason for that is because there's a study by Dr.
	Marty Hazelton, who was an evolutionary psychologist, and she was studying sexual ornamentation.
	That means when women are in their ovulatory phase, they tend to dress in red, they tend to show more skin, they tend to sexualize themselves that much more, and they tend to wear what?
	Hoop earrings.
	It wasn't about a race issue.
	It wasn't about anything else.
	Just clarifying that for the field right now.
	I appreciate you clarifying that.
	Because culturally, Latin women and black women, we wear hoops culturally.
	I hate hoops.
	Thank you for clearing that up.
	You make me look so Latina.
	What were you saying, Ashley?
	Ashley, I can't even see your hoops.
	You can even barely see the hoop earrings.
	Your Honor, the prosecution rests.
	A question for Myron.
	When you read Rolo's book, The Rational Male, what statement of fact has stuck with you since reading it?
	What was the most significant thing out of my book?
	That's a good question.
	I would say that women love opportunistically.
	Yeah.
	And I quote that all the time, and I always give you your credit.
	That's a good one.
	But yeah, I mean, 100% women love opportunistically.
	Excellent.
	Is Outback on the first date okay, ladies?
	And then the last one I got here is, this is Fresh's Big Dickum Cider.
	Okay.
	What?
	I have no idea.
	Alright, here we go.
	Okay, ladies, it's time for the real reason me and Big Homie Fresh came to town.
	We came here to do two things.
	Chew bubblegum and clappeth thine cheeks.
	And I just ran out of bubblegum.
	Take it away, Big Homie Fresh.
	Go for not-so-hot Donna next to Myron.
	Thank you very much.
	Fresh's Big Dick Insider.
	Yeah, so your penis has its own YouTube.
	It has its own zip code, yes.
	It's its own account.
	That's it.
	I'm good.
	Cool.
	So what we'll do is, guys, come on over to Fresh to Fit on YouTube and Rumble.
	We're going to kill the other streams.
	Yeah, and come on over.
	We've got almost 20,000 y'all watching, so come on over.
	Let's hit and break the 20.
	And thank you for each of us.
	We have war equipment.
	And subscribe to Rational Mail and Michael Sartain on YouTube, guys.
	Subscribe to them before we go to the streams.
	He says, where's Warquette?
	When will he be on the Graham Stephan show?
	And when will we see him slap Zerka?
	David Stark says, ladies, if your man loved his career, but it didn't pay enough to provide to your dream lifestyle, would you accept it, leave, or tell him to change his occupation?
	We'll do that after the topic at hand, guys.
	We'll do that after.
	Dr.
	Roberto says, all you're missing is CGA FNF for life.
	Shout out to you, bro.
	Inspector says, recyclable use only, I mean ladies, what's a red flag from a guy you secretly like?
	We'll have that after as well.
	Cam2Time says, question ladies, has a man ever made you cry?
	If so, what's the reason if not Myron and Fresh make him cry?
	If y'all can't, call Zerka.
	Come on, bro.
	Ivan Lilo says, from, so 220 pounds down from 245 pounds, 165k yearly in Vegas, one home with 250k equity, focusing on fitness and leveling up.
	Broke up with my feminist girlfriend last year, thank Jesus.
	What advice would you give to me?
	Thanks Myron Fresh Roller Michael for helping men.
	She buckled his girlfriend last year.
	Understand the RP and get aware, man, and keep losing the weight.
	Okay, we got that one.
	Question for the ladies.
	Are you more attractive at your current age?
	Okay, hold on.
	Question for the ladies.
	Are you more attractive at your current age or when you were at 18 years old?
	No retard answers, please.
	18?
	Maybe 23.
	I'm definitely hotter now.
	I'll just answer that.
	All the girls are going to say hotter now.
	I look like Well, any girl here can seem to admit that they were more attractive at 18 than they are now.
	No, but 90s babies, you know our makeup and all that stuff used to be weird?
	It's fine, it's fine.
	You didn't have the funds then.
	It's fine.
	All right.
	Granny, go ahead and retire already.
	The streets ain't calling your name no more.
	Get a cat and stay at the crib.
	Oh man, that's from Fresh's Dog.
	He's talking about you, but that's fine.
	Will you connect Warcut with Dave Rubin and Graham Stephan?
	I don't know about that, I dubs.
	Ams the Don goes, ladies, say you meet a guy that qualifies for a date and it goes really well and you feel him.
	He is the one, but he's a highly wanted guy, high status.
	What are you willing to do to get a second date with him?
	Way into that one after, because that actually will go right into our thing.
	And guys, from this point forward, we got over 10,000 of y'all watching, so we're going to go ahead.
	And rumble real quick.
	It's just two or three, right?
	It's a...
	Oh, man.
	Okay.
	So he says, DJ Longer says, how cold is it in there?
	And then from this point forward, we're going to go...
	Guys, from this point forward, we're going to go 50 and up.
	50 and up from this point forward.
	So he says, how cold is it in there?
	The chat is wondering.
	If you know what that means, then you're smart.
	Joka Jam says, Hey guys, just recently started watching this podcast with my girl.
	She agrees with these 304s with capping.
	Didn't expect that, but we're showing our support by bringing you a female that understands her role.
	Okay?
	Someone01 says, Hey, I'm in St.
	George 2, lived here for 23 years.
	Is FLDS girl related to any just-ups?
	Jessups.
	I'm dating a Jessup.
	Not related.
	Hoping to visit Vegas for F1, WFNF. And then DJ Lauder again says, These 304s want an expensive date.
	What do they bring to the table?
	Okay.
	Press 1 to cast a little 304 in red.
	Oh my god.
	Already.
	Already.
	Carlos says, make up masks.
	What percentage of first dates get second dates with you?
	What percentage of first dates land a relationship with you?
	More than a month.
	Who are they talking to?
	The same questions from the last one.
	Masterman says, Gen X and Millennials hung out in a car on a first date.
	We find a place to park and just talk.
	What the fuck is with these women?
	Many of them are Gen X and Millennials.
	Yet they want the red carpet treatment.
	That is a statement.
	Punisher says, Ugly Betty in Red, please shut the fuck up.
	Aren't the same.
	You're old as fuck.
	These are the Rumble ones.
	So we men don't give a shit about what you old bitches have to say.
	Not talking to me.
	I don't do incel.
	I don't talk incel.
	Half your bones probably just dust by now.
	What the fuck?
	Not talking to me.
	I think Fantasy says, Sugar Mamas are real?
	I think that's you.
	Yes.
	And then last few here.
	Alcazar says, the grandma's ideal's first date is bingo night.
	Yo!
	Naked bingo.
	Canasta.
	When a woman is not attracted to you, no pickup line will work.
	She'll make it difficult, but a girl with high attraction and high interest will open doors and make it easy for you.
	That's true.
	The last one here says, Chris Povlowski, when Rumble app is going to be updated?
	Very soon, my friend.
	It's going to get updated.
	So guys, from this point forward, it's going to be 50 and up because we want to keep the show going.
	FNFSuperChat.com or Rumble ran it in.
	But we read all the ones that came through, so thank you for your support.
	And now we have a picture to look at.
	It's going viral.
	So it's a meme that's been going around on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.
	And basically, it's the first date knows for girls in this century.
	Cheesecake Factory.
	So we have a list of don'ts.
	Oh my god.
	The first dates.
	Well, first off, don't use Facetune to snatch her waist.
	What the fuck is that?
	Yeah.
	That's not real.
	It kinda is, though.
	Have you seen her?
	Women don't want to go on first dates.
	Bitch, fine as fuck.
	So the first one is Cheesecake Factory, Applebee's, Chili's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, the movies, your house, any fast food chain, Buffalo Wellings, Wingstop, Red Lobster, Buffet, Denny's, the gym, church, Starbucks, coffee, movie night, bowling, nightclubs, hookah bar, a bar for just drinks, Waffle House, sports hookah bar, a bar for just drinks, Waffle House, sports events, mommy pop, food trucks.
	Dude, okay ladies, ladies Ladies, 50-yard line for the Raiders game.
	Raise your hand if you would go to that.
	That right there is fucking cow.
	The rest of it I told you.
	Ladies, real quick.
	Who wants your opinion on this?
	Do you agree with this list?
	Wait, first off, that was one woman's list.
	And you guys were saying that it was every woman who said that.
	It's not true.
	They're asking.
	If you agree with the list.
	I think there's a handful of things on there that I definitely...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Let's have some fucking order here.
	Let's start here.
	So we're going to go one by one.
	Ladies, this list went viral, so clearly a bunch of women are resharing and retweeting it, so a bunch of them agree with this, and they're sharing it.
	So what we're asking is, do you agree with this list?
	Are some of the things on there ridiculous?
	Are they appropriate?
	Etc.
	Just your general take on it from the locations seen.
	We can start here.
	I don't remember the list exactly, but I remember saying some of them were...
	Can we pull it back up and keep it up on screen the whole time?
	Yeah, some of them are absolutely ridiculous.
	I mean, they left you nowhere to go.
	That list left you nowhere to go.
	So some of them were silly, very silly, and some of them were like, uh, I agreed with some of them.
	What's the most ridiculous and the most legit one?
	I can't see.
	I'd have to see it.
	I have it on my phone.
	Too old?
	I can't see from there.
	Oh my god, bro.
	Well, the jokes are going to come in for that one.
	Can you see that one?
	I can't.
	Yeah, I can see it.
	Cheesecake Factory, Applebee's, Chili's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, the movie.
	Is there any way that we can put it behind you guys?
	No.
	Personally, I agree with some.
	I don't agree with all of them.
	I would love to go to church on the first date.
	So you don't agree with that one?
	No, I agree with that.
	No, no, I'm saying you don't agree with that being on the list.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry.
	Yeah, and then what is the, which one is appropriate, would you say, the most appropriate?
	Waffle House.
	Waffle House, you wouldn't want to go there?
	I would go there.
	Oh, you would.
	What is appropriate as in, like, being on the list?
	No, family function.
	I wouldn't go to a family function, not on the first date.
	No, that's weird.
	Okay.
	Like, meeting the kids and mom, shit, that's weird.
	Yeah, I wouldn't have that first date.
	Assuming you, the guy was attractive.
	I don't give a fuck.
	That's weird.
	I don't care.
	You know what?
	If I was into him, I would accompany him to a wedding.
	Hell no, bro.
	No, fuck no.
	Weddings?
	That's scary.
	That made me sweat, bitch.
	Remember, it's a first date.
	If I was into him, I'd go to another world.
	Family function is scary as shit.
	Okay, what about you?
	What is valid on there and not valid?
	I think that the general dislike would probably be church or a fast food restaurant.
	And I think pretty much the others are like, we could have fun for sure.
	Okay, so are you not religious at all?
	No, not really.
	Okay, so church and what was the other one you said no to?
	Church and fast food.
	I would not do fast food.
	Okay.
	What if that was how you got to know him, because he was really into eating McDonald's?
	Yeah, see, I'm not going to relate with somebody that's really eating McDonald's.
	Yeah, but like he's a professional eater or something.
	That's not going to fit my lifestyle.
	No, so it doesn't matter.
	Hey, somewhere that requires a long drive, none of you guys would do that?
	I would do that.
	Charleston or Red Rock?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, that's fun.
	Red Rock's fun.
	I mean, Mount Zion or whatever.
	And then if it doesn't go well, he can bury you somewhere and it'll just never find anyone.
	He wouldn't get the chance.
	Okay, what about you on that list?
	Can we keep that list up?
	What was valid and what was not valid?
	What was valid?
	I would say a sports event.
	I would go to a sports event.
	Okay, so you agree with that?
	But church and the gym are kind of...
	No gym?
	I think you should have already done your work in the gym.
	I don't want to go to the gym with you.
	I would totally do that.
	Do you work out yourself or no?
	I do.
	You do.
	So wouldn't it be fair to say that something you guys could do together?
	I mean we could, just not on the first date.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What is appropriate and not appropriate on the list in your opinion?
	So, appropriate, absolutely Cheesecake Factory.
	I live near one.
	It's convenient.
	It's closed.
	Everything always tastes good, I think.
	Inappropriate, I wouldn't be into the church date either.
	I don't like worship areas personally, especially for dates.
	I don't...
	Red lobster would not probably be it.
	What?!
	The biscuits?!
	I'm not a lobster person, but a guy asked me to go to In-N-Out recently, and even though I said no, I still like In-N-Out.
	So if I was really hungry and really lazy, I maybe would say yes.
	Were you attracted to that guy?
	I was figuring it out.
	Were we attracted enough to him to go to In-N-Out and get it in?
	Ladies, none of you would do an ice cream date?
	I would totally do an ice cream date.
	Yeah, I've done an ice cream date.
	That's worked out well.
	Ice cream date's been really good, yeah.
	I think it really comes down for me to, am I lazy?
	Is it on the fly?
	Is it close by?
	And are the calories going to be worth it?
	All right, hold on.
	So you said red lobster was unacceptable.
	What was the other one?
	I don't like lobsters, so that's why.
	I wouldn't want to go to church.
	Church is a no for me.
	I don't like, yeah, that's not it.
	That's not a fly for me.
	And the rest of it was okay with you?
	Again, if I was really hungry and kind of lazy and it was close by, maybe, yeah.
	I was into the guy, yeah.
	But no church, no church.
	So fast food is a no as well.
	No church?
	Maybe.
	They got good donuts at church.
	What about you?
	What about you?
	What else do you know?
	No Applebee's, no Chilis, maybe Chipotle, no Olive Garden.
	Maybe Chipotle?
	Chipotle's the shit.
	No Wingstop, no Red Lobster, no Buffet, no Denny's.
	Okay.
	No church?
	I don't know.
	Okay, so pretty much you agree with the whole list.
	What if I took you on a hike?
	Want to go hiking?
	Outdoors?
	She's from Miami, no.
	I'll go to the beach.
	What about deep sea fishing?
	Would you go on a chartered deep sea fishing boat?
	No, I get really sick.
	That's an adventure.
	Okay, what about you?
	What's a...
	My least favorite on here is my house for safety, obviously.
	We'll take that one out.
	If you take that one out, then it will be church and nightclubs.
	She's not a Christian!
	I am a Christian, but the problem with church is I can't talk to him.
	So my first date, I actually want to get to know the person.
	So my favorite would be like food truck and the gym.
	But if the gym, if we get to work out together.
	Okay, so church and nightclub are the ones that you definitely would say no to, right?
	Yeah, because the church, I love the church.
	We can do a second date on the church, but I want to get to know you and actually talk to you on the first date.
	Alright, what about you?
	Can you pass that to her so she can look at it?
	The long drive I might be a little afraid of.
	Exactly what I said.
	Things went really bad on the day.
	Let's assume you liked the guy.
	What would you not do on there, assuming the guy met all your requirements?
	Nightclubs, hookah bar, because I don't smoke, but I actually would go with him if he's into it, maybe.
	I don't know.
	They have good food.
	So the hookah and what was that one?
	I've never been to one, but I don't know, it doesn't sound too short.
	So nightclubs, we can't really get to know each other at nightclub, a first date.
	Like, I don't know.
	So you're cool with everything there except for nightclub, assuming you like the guy?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about you?
	I might even go with him to a nightclub.
	Assuming you like the guy, what do you not do on that list?
	I feel like this list is a little unrealistic.
	It really left nowhere for anyone to, I mean, like, normal people to go.
	Okay.
	Um...
	If it's someone I like, they could literally take me to any of these places.
	It doesn't really matter.
	It's more about who you're with than what you're eating.
	And how good the kind bud is.
	What about you?
	What would you...
	Take me to the dispensary.
	I would love the cheese pancake factory.
	But knockout, Applebee's, Chili's, I like Chipotle, Olive Garden, no.
	Movies, yes.
	Your house, absolutely not.
	Any of the fast food chains, probably.
	So even if you like the guy, you'd still say no to all these things?
	Yes.
	And Buffalo Wild Wings.
	I am a picky eater.
	Like I said, I'm not going to eat something that can be microwaved and then served to me on a plate.
	I don't even believe in microwaves.
	Period.
	Wow.
	I eat clean, but I would do shake and fries with the guy I was into.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, I probably won't do the fries, but I'll do the shake.
	That'll be like my one.
	Real quick, for you.
	So, assuming you like the guy, you would still say no to all those places?
	No, I... Let's go back with, assuming you like the guy.
	Can we pass it back to her?
	I'm not going to go there.
	You're still not going to go to those places?
	I don't like it.
	Okay.
	And then for you guys, I guess, yeah.
	So pretty much, even if you like the guys, those places are still, you're not going to go, right?
	I would go.
	I would go.
	Except for my two or three.
	Which were, were those two or three again?
	My church.
	Church?
	We can pass the list if you want to.
	Because you couldn't see it anyway from the beginning.
	I can't see it.
	So yeah, assuming you like the guy and he meets all your requirements, what are the ones that are still not, you would not go to?
	Outside of house, that's obvious.
	If I like him, I'll put up with the crappy places like Applebee's.
	If I like him, I'll put up with it.
	But church, definitely not.
	What about you?
	Assuming you like him, where would you not go?
	Is it still the same thing for you, church and gym?
	Or no, church and fasting?
	I've gone to church.
	Or no, you said family function.
	I wouldn't go to the gym.
	I wouldn't do the family function.
	I wouldn't go to his house.
	I wouldn't let him go to my house.
	Well, we said house is not on the list.
	That's fine.
	Family function, gym, what else?
	Assuming you like him.
	Something cool everywhere else.
	I don't give a fuck.
	So just two things.
	Oh, and church, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay, what about...
	No, I like church.
	I go to church.
	Oh, you go to the church.
	Yeah.
	Just not the family function.
	No.
	All right, what about...
	And then for you, you said church and gym...
	No.
	Church and fast food.
	But is this still on a first date?
	First date, but you like the guy.
	He's absolutely attractive.
	It's probably going to be the same thing.
	Yeah.
	And then for you, would it be the same thing, assuming you like the guy?
	If I like the guy, I would go to any of these places.
	Oh, to include even the church and the gym?
	Well, you know, church...
	You might burn it.
	Maybe.
	It depends what religion.
	You might burn it there.
	But that's a weird one.
	That's a weird one.
	But if I like him, I'll go to any of these.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	Did you have a follow-up question for us?
	Yeah, actually, so the date purpose is to get to know somebody on a deeper level.
	And I think on some level, whether the guy's looking or ugly, obviously you have your preferences.
	But the guy's your type, the date location may not matter as much.
	So I think on some level, we can agree that the date matters if the guy looks good to you or not, I would say.
	You're way nicer about it than me.
	This is why guys need to give women less.
	I wrote a book, Why Women Deserve Less, and you guys kind of proved my point here.
	What I've come to realize is the way a woman treats you, the things that she's gonna put you through, how much she's gonna put you through the ringer, is directly related to how attractive she is to you.
	And the reality is men need to focus on themselves more, make more money, become more attractive, et cetera, so they don't have to work as hard with impressing girls and taking them to lavish areas that the women are not gonna appreciate for them anyway.
	They're gonna try to get an entertainment experience.
	And the reason why I asked those questions was, hey, if you like the guy, are you going to really, you know, stress him out and say, I want to go here and I want to do this or whatever?
	And I've come to realize that girls make certain guys work hard and then other guys not work so hard.
	So my question is this, why should a guy go through the trouble of taking you on a fancy ass date and everything else when there's other men that can clearly take you to just get some coffee or something regular?
	Why should he spend extra time and money to take you even though you wouldn't do that to another guy?
	Because we're spending extra time trying to pretend liking you.
	I prefer...
	Let's go around the table on this one.
	So why is it that you're going to make some other guys pay full price for something that other guys are getting for free and or paying little to nothing for?
	Start here.
	oh my gosh can you say that one more time so why is it that you would make some guys you know go through the whole rigmarole to take you on a date but other guys not and should they still do take the make the effort to take you on these dates honestly i'm going to tell you straight out whether i want to go on the date with you or not and chances are if i don't i'm going to tell you i'm very very busy i'm working everything i'm doing is making money and if i'm not making money then i'm kind of upset right So if I'm going to do something that I enjoy and I want to go on a date with you,
	I'm not going to make you pay that much because it's something that I actually want to do and enjoy with my own time.
	So have you never been on a date with a guy that you really like that much but it was a really nice restaurant or a cool experience?
	I mean, not really.
	Not really.
	So it's a yes, just not often.
	I mean, every blue moon, but it has to be something nice, right?
	And they know that they have the carrot in front of my face like a horse.
	They're like, come on, I'll take you somewhere nice or X, Y, and Z, right?
	Okay.
	And then I've already told them no.
	Okay.
	So since you said no and they don't get the hint, you're going to make them pay for it?
	They put the carrot in front of my face in the first place.
	I didn't ask for it.
	I want to know what the carrot is.
	The nice dinner.
	I want to know what the carrot is.
	Because she's talking about, well, it depends on what it is.
	The nice dinners, the shopping, the shows.
	Let me see if I can rephrase this a little bit.
	Would any of your answers have changed if the guy you worked wanted to take you out to any of these places?
	Applebee's or some shit like that.
	But the dude was like...
	Your absolute physical ideal you really wanted to get with this guy.
	You knew he laid down the good D. He was like, he was yoked.
	He just turned you on no matter what.
	Would you have changed your answer at all?
	Would you have put up with going to Applebee's or what?
	Olive Garden, for fuck's sake!
	Olive Garden's great!
	Would you go to Olive Garden with a guy if he looked like Henry Cavill or he looked like Jason Momoa or he was just like your physical ideal that you were just like, man, I'm going to go through this because I know what's coming at the end of the date.
	You know what?
	I might go and just watch him eat, right?
	And I would not even enjoy my time as much.
	And just because he looks pretty and the fact that he's putting that kind of garbage into his body, chances are I probably won't like him.
	I got a question for the girls.
	Gotcha, bitch!
	So, throughout this podcast, we've pretty much established that women will absolutely punish certain guys if they're not attractive enough and force them to pay for expensive dates or extravagant experiences, whatever, while other guys might not have to do any of that crap.
	Knowing what you know now, where would you tell your son to take a first date?
	That was exactly my question.
	Cheesecake factory!
	Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, one at a time.
	We can start here.
	Where would you tell your son to take a girl on a date knowing that women date predatorily?
	Cheesecake Factory, right?
	Or if you're a teenager, maybe like Family Fun Center or Boomers, somewhere fun and outgoing, right?
	If you're a kid, but an adult, Cheesecake Factory is just fine.
	How old is our son?
	Let's say he's 25 years old, making 50k a year, average guy.
	What about you?
	I was still gonna go with the whole picnic and do something romantic and cute.
	That would be the advice that I would give to my son.
	Planet 13.
	Jardine.
	So a picnic or a hike is what you're saying?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	How much would you tell him to spend?
	As a matter of fact, yeah.
	Where should your son take the girl and how much should he spend?
	Okay.
	25, 50k?
	Hold on, hold on.
	Yeah, he makes 25.
	Yeah, 50k a year.
	Like 30, 40 bucks on like some snacks to pack up to make their lunch.
	What about you?
	What's the budget for Cheesecake Factory?
	You, I mean, it depends if there's alcohol involved, right?
	Realistically, if there's no alcohol involved, it can definitely stay below like $75.
	If it's over, you're going to be paying close to $150, but you got to be knowing that if you're walking into a date.
	Okay, so $150 max?
	Thanks, Mom.
	I mean, there's no max.
	You're a grown boy.
	I'm not going to micromanage you as a mother.
	Grown boy?
	Yeah, 25 years old.
	25 years old.
	You should know how much you do or do not want to spend.
	But do not spend $500 on your first date.
	Like, that would be just ridiculous for a 25 year old.
	But mom, I really want to tap that ass.
	Go buy her a nice purse and do it.
	Hold on, hold on.
	But with all due respect, I find that interesting because you're in the profession of finessing guys out of money.
	You act in a predatory sense to get the most money out of guys.
	You wouldn't advise your son on how to defend himself against women that want to do that?
	Because you might do it from a pole, but let's be honest here.
	A lot of girls do that and finesse just in regular day life.
	So you want to prepare yourself for that?
	I also don't associate with these type of women most of the time.
	I don't find myself in the predatory space, especially in my space.
	I actually don't.
	I put on a very good pole show.
	I'm probably one of the top 10, 15 pole dancers in all of Las Vegas.
	Yeah, that's fantastic and all.
	But at the end of the day, your job is absolutely contingent upon selling a dream and or image to men to get money for so.
	And a lot of the times that comes in with faking attraction, faking arousal, faking that you want to talk to and faking that you care, etc.
	I guarantee that's a part of the reason why they say, I'll take you here and there because they're so infatuated with your behaviors.
	Fantastic.
	Yes.
	When you walk into a strip club, you know it's fake.
	I'm also an anomaly.
	Most people like me for me and want to spend time with me knowing that my time is money.
	Oh my god, bro.
	Okay.
	Come and see me at work.
	Can I say something?
	Do I have to wait to go around the table?
	Come, come, come.
	Is it in direct relation to this?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	I just, I want to say, like...
	I'm sure you're an anomaly, but all women are predatory.
	So when you say, I don't hang with women like that, even the nice women are predatory because we're hypergamous.
	All women are predatory.
	All of us.
	It doesn't matter what age.
	And I'm sure you're a nice person.
	That doesn't take away from you're a nice person.
	As far as what I would tell my son, my son's life is not...
	You know, it's not predicated on what a woman is doing.
	I come from a long line of bodybuilders, men that make good money, men that own property.
	That's what I would tell my son.
	Make sure you are the elite, the top choice, the one that has the options.
	The women will come.
	That's what I'm going to tell my son.
	I'm not going to tell my son, hey, there's predators out there.
	Only take her to Applebee's and see what...
	No, you be the best that you can be, and you'll never have a problem with women coming to you and wanting you.
	And if...
	And I'll land the plane here.
	And if it's going to hurt your pocket to take a woman out, don't do it.
	And second, if you just want pussy, go buy it.
	That's what I would tell my son.
	That's what I would tell my son.
	Let's stop playing a game.
	If it's that you want pussy, son, go buy it.
	This is why fathers are so important, man.
	I mean, that's a great recipe, but what's going to end up happening is women are going to look at him as a mark.
	Hey, he has money, etc.
	He's the best option, but he never understood female nature.
	He gets used by girls.
	And that's it.
	But here's the thing.
	He has a woman that's going to school him on female nature, and that had a very good father.
	He was...
	Very good father.
	Which is why I know a lot of game from both sides.
	But I'm not gonna raise my son to be some sort of victim.
	Be the best that you could be.
	Yes, women are predatory, but common sense.
	If it's gonna hurt your pocket, don't do it.
	And if you only want her for ass, go buy it.
	What's wrong with that?
	It's common sense.
	I get that, but what I'm saying is that what's gonna end up happening is just gonna end up being a trick.
	Wait, do you mean go buy it as in like you can take her to...
	Prostitution.
	No, literally, literally, a lot of men...
	Like going to Hong Kong.
	Right, a lot of men are pissed off about spending...
	You gotta go to Hong Kong.
	A lot of men...
	Let's go Hong Kong?
	Listen, a lot of men get mad that they're spending money on women with no return, right?
	The return is usually the vagina.
	So I'm like, why are we playing this game?
	Go buy the vagina.
	Let's stop the rigmarole of the BS. So you're telling your son to go pay for pussy.
	In reality, when you do that, you become a hater of women.
	You know that, right?
	But they hate women anyway when they take them out on a date and don't get the vagina.
	They end up hating women even more.
	Is it not true?
	Can I piggyback on that?
	Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	This is a whole other conversation here.
	Let's just stick with the questioning and then we can go ahead and have discussion on paying for sex and everything else like that.
	So, yeah, knowing...
	Oh, you answered it.
	Go ahead.
	Where would you tell your son to go ahead and take her on a first date?
	Knowing what you know now about how women make some guys work really hard and some other guys not.
	I would tell my son, if she isn't willing to go get ice cream or coffee with you, she's not into you.
	And if she says yes, take her to the fair and get ice cream.
	Do something more fun.
	What's the max you should spend?
	Um, I don't know.
	$100?
	$200 maybe.
	Alright.
	Goddamn, that's expensive ice cream.
	Alright, what about you?
	That's a really hard question.
	What would you tell your son as far as where he should take a girl knowing what you know now about how women make some guys work really hard and others not?
	My son's bad now.
	Well, I don't have kids, so maybe this would change if I actually did have a son and I'd get a little bit more terrified.
	That's why I'm asking this question.
	Or your brother, if you have a brother.
	I do have a brother.
	I have two brothers.
	Okay, there you go.
	What would you tell them?
	But okay, so I guess I can use the best for my cousin.
	He's a boy.
	Whatever.
	So he asked me, and I asked him what his budget was, and I was like, and how do you think that this girl feels about you?
	Or, how do you feel about this girl?
	Do you want to just have sex with her?
	Or do you actually want to date her?
	And then I say to, like, justify it based off of that and what your budget is.
	So if you just want to have sex with her, then, to be honest with you, I wouldn't spend too much, but try to make it look like you're spending a lot.
	And then if you actually...
	Where should you take her and how much should you spend?
	Give us to her.
	Okay, so he lives in Idaho and...
	Idaho?
	Goddamn.
	I didn't, I mean...
	Yeah, it's my like white square side.
	Okay, alright.
	Yeah, so they have this like really nice, really nice restaurant that's kind of like a cheesecake factory and I was like, well just take her there.
	And then, they're 25, so he wasn't 25 at the time, he was like 20.
	But I was like, just take her somewhere like there and then just see how the conversation goes.
	Oh.
	So don't even spend the money?
	I just wouldn't.
	Unless you're really vibing with the person, you're like, okay, I know that I'm gonna get this girl and I really like her.
	I wouldn't tell them to split the check, though.
	I would tell them to just pay, but just stay in your budget range.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	What would you tell your son knowing that girls make some guys work hard and others not?
	No, it's just, I mean, if he's 25 years old, he should know what she will be worth or what he wants from her.
	So he will spend, if he's making 50k, I'm sure he could afford from $100 to $300 dinner.
	It depends.
	It's whatever he feels about her.
	Man, women have no concept of money.
	You know how much a guy that makes 50k a year is making a month?
	I mean, if he really likes her, he's gonna save her and just take her and impress her.
	Like, it depends how much he likes her.
	Yeah, but remember, it's a first date.
	We're asking you, like...
	Yeah, but sometimes first dates are the most important because that's where it starts.
	Yeah, but you know clearly now that some women, like, just make guys pay extra and other guys not.
	So he'll have to make his own decision if she's just a game or, like, a real first date for love.
	How about this?
	What would you do if you were a guy and you knew how women operated?
	Where would you take her on the first date and how much would you spend?
	I think it's all about the connection.
	So if you think it's the first date and I'm really like...
	You're dropping 300 and you make 50k a year?
	If I really like her and I want to take it more serious and I think I'm like, take it for love and like just trying to like figure it out.
	Love is very expensive.
	On a first date?
	No.
	I date women and I've done that before.
	It all starts from that special moment.
	The first date.
	Yeah.
	I date women as well and I actually date women before I dated men and like I was dumb and I used to take girls out on like these extravagant dates and buy them a lot of shit and then I'm an idiot and I'm like why did I do this because I'm not with them right now and they're somewhere else.
	So I wouldn't tell them to spend a lot.
	You wouldn't tell...
	I wouldn't tell my son to spend a lot.
	Okay, okay, okay, okay.
	Yeah.
	Now that you put it that way like I... Max a hundred.
	Interesting.
	And here's the funny part.
	You do realize that you dating girls was on easy mode, right?
	Because a woman that is bisexual is almost always going to have a lower standard on women that she deals with versus men.
	Yeah, especially because I'm the more dominant one.
	I mean, you're bisexual.
	You probably have higher standards for the men that you date versus the women that you would go and date.
	Yes, she can be dumb, just pretty.
	Yeah, see, versus like, man, there is a burden of performance.
	Alright, alright, alright.
	Okay, so for you, okay.
	Alright, so you would still spend $300 even though...
	Like, that's 7% of your income.
	It's just all about, like, it's just the way I see it, it's all about, like, the connection and, like, the energy and what I think I'm gonna take it from there.
	Like, how much I really like them.
	Like, it's just like...
	Have you ever paid for a first aid before?
	Yes, of course.
	For a guy?
	Yes.
	How was that?
	It's just, like I was saying, it just all depends how much I really think I like him and how...
	What happened with that relationship with that guy?
	I didn't really like him.
	Okay, what about you?
	What would you tell your...
	Well, actually, you are a matchmaker, right?
	So what do you tell men that go on first dates with women knowing that a lot of women are predatory on first days trying to get experience?
	Yeah, and I also have two younger brothers.
	So if someone was 25, for your hypothetical example, making 50 grand a year, I would say either take her to the movies on half-off Tuesday, or, like one of my brothers, I said, take her to this aquarium.
	You guys can walk around.
	It's an experience.
	That way it's a little more exciting.
	But don't break the bank on a first date.
	Also, go for girls who...
	You know you're going to be able to impress.
	Don't try to go above your pay grade and get with a girl like me, hypothetically, right?
	Because you're just setting yourself up for disaster.
	It's going to be a waste of money.
	I think at that age, if you're trying to build and grind, have a good girl by your side who's going to support you through that.
	And then once you get to that peak financial point in your career, if she's still by your side and you want to either upgrade or wife her, then you can make that decision with her or by yourself.
	But first date, 50 grand a year, 25 years old, don't break the bank.
	You know, it's interesting.
	Most men, if they're with a girl and they grind and they become successful, they probably keep that girl by the side or marry her and then have another chick on the side.
	But if a woman upgraded, she would never keep that guy by the side.
	Potentially, but there are also a lot of guys who once they do hit that point, then they want the super hot girl.
	If they're in a big city like Miami or LA. Yeah, they'll fuck her and make her the side chick.
	They'll have that main girl that was there with them from the beginning.
	What I've realized is that men tend to be loyal when they become successful and there was a girl stuck by them.
	But if a girl makes more money and becomes successful, she's dropping that guy.
	That's true.
	That's true.
	But not always either.
	If they're high school sweethearts, sometimes they'll stick it out.
	That's the one exception to the rule that I've seen.
	Or if they're really religious.
	Sometimes, but rarely.
	What about you?
	What would you tell?
	So I am a mother, and I do have a child.
	I have a daughter, but also as a stepmom to a son.
	And what I would tell them, if he likes her and he really wants to go for it.
	Wait, you're in a relationship?
	No, I'm not.
	I'm a single mother.
	Yeah, but you said you're a stepmom, which means you have...
	I had...
	My baby daddy had a son, so I still had a relationship with him.
	Okay, you said stepmom as if it's current, like it's still...
	Well, I mean, you know, he grew up...
	I was with my baby daddy for a long time, so I still have a...
	I consider him, you know, like family.
	But what I would tell him, if he likes her, really wants to go for her, no matter if he's working, making that much...
	At least $100 to $200.
	Okay, where should you take her then?
	You should take her to a nice date, go to dinner, and then maybe a music show.
	So despite being 25, still spend that money on a first day on a girl that might be just trying to get an experience?
	Sure.
	I think it's like $1,000 every two weeks.
	It's roughly $4,166 a month.
	$4,166.
	$50,000 divided by 12.
	Okay, what about you?
	What would you tell your son knowing that women date predatory on first dates?
	I think knowing that women that do that, I think it's definitely not smart to spend more money because then the woman is going to look at them differently and kind of more go towards being predative towards that person.
	So I think like some of my favorite dates with like People that don't necessarily know if they want to spend that money yet is kind of just going to a cool lounge or a cool restaurant or something like that.
	Just not fast food, right?
	Like Evil Pie, for example.
	It's a step up.
	You know what I mean?
	It's like a pizza place.
	I'm saying fast food is like McDonald's, Burger King, Wednesdays.
	They don't know what Evil Pie is.
	It's a sit-in restaurant, but it's not fast food.
	Somewhere like there where you can just get to know the person and it's And how much did they spend?
	20 bucks, okay.
	I would say maybe at the most like 50 if you don't really have the budget, you know, drinks, some pizza, cool.
	What about you?
	What would you tell your son knowing that women date this way?
	Well, I personally think that women and men both are predatory whether you're going on a date.
	If you're going on a date, you're both being predatory.
	Okay, how's a man being predatory in your opinion?
	Because he's either looking for sex or a relationship.
	Okay.
	Wait, that's predatory to give a girl a relationship, which is what she wants?
	Yeah, but then they're both being predatory towards the same thing, which is great.
	Interesting.
	If you're both being predatory towards the same thing, it's great.
	But that's why my advice to him would be, do you...
	I'd say it's predatory because the man doesn't get anything back out of taking a girl on a nice date.
	He might get a relationship.
	He might get pussy.
	Keep it a thousand with y'all.
	Men really don't enjoy talking to you guys like that.
	He's getting the time and energy.
	No, but hold on.
	Sex is reciprocal.
	Both of you are getting something versus when he takes you on a nice date, he's not really getting anything.
	Well, what about the people at the restaurant who see him with a pretty girl and maybe that's elevating his status?
	Not necessarily.
	Depends on who thinks you're pretty or not.
	Everybody thinks you're pretty.
	If he doesn't care, then why is he wasting his time?
	Because he wants to get laid.
	Sure, sure.
	But also for her, she should have standards.
	I mean, you should know this.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	You're in the sex industry, correct?
	I am.
	And you know that men are the predominant consumers of pornography significantly, right?
	Absolutely.
	If women were the ones that consume porn, your industry would go down literally in 24 hours.
	So what I'm trying to say is that since men want...
	Women do consume porn.
	Yeah, but what I said...
	Hold on, hold on.
	You didn't hear what I said.
	If women were the predominant consumers of porn, your industry would crash literally within hours.
	Sure, but that's not what's going on.
	What?
	Why is there only fans and not only mans?
	I understand what you're saying.
	I said that to illustrate how important sex is for men, where they will sit there on a date with a girl they don't like, endure stupid conversation with her, and talk to her for the potential of getting sex immediately.
	To include spending money and spending time in something that isn't guaranteed.
	If that doesn't prove that men want sex to a higher degree, I don't know what else does.
	But that was the point.
	If a woman...
	He's looking for something, which is probably sex, and if he's going on a first date and he's not looking to actually be in a relationship with her, all he wants is sex, then he has to pay for that.
	But the woman has the leverage and she's the one that's taking his time and money, so she's in a predatory situation.
	Then pay for it.
	Then pay for it.
	Pay for what?
	The date, the leverage, or whatever it is.
	Are you listening to anything I'm saying?
	No.
	Not necessarily, really.
	If we're going to have a conversation, you're going to try to rebut my points.
	You need to listen to what I'm saying so you can actually respond properly.
	It doesn't matter what you're saying unless you're listening to what I'm saying so you can respond properly.
	I was listening to what you were saying.
	What did I say then?
	I'm telling you that if a woman goes on a date, she's looking for a...
	No, excuse me.
	What did I say?
	I don't know.
	I'm forgetful.
	It's a literal problem.
	If you're forgetful, that's your problem, not mine necessarily.
	If you can't engage in a conversation properly, then maybe I should just move on to someone that can engage in a conversation properly.
	Can I respond to your point?
	Can I say something really quick?
	Please pay attention, because if you're going to hurt the quiet of the show like that...
	I wasn't trying to.
	Well, you are.
	I was trying to answer, and then you went and spoke to somebody else, so I lost train of thought.
	Well, yeah, she was trying to come in and defend you, and she didn't do too much.
	So my thing is, if you're going to come in and you're going to be engaged in a conversation, like, this isn't a, oh, let me just listen to myself talk.
	I apologize.
	Like, listen to what I'm saying so that you can respond properly.
	Stop interrupting me when I'm speaking, please.
	Well, I apologize.
	Okay.
	Well, stop talking now.
	Can I respond to your point?
	About what?
	About how women are, like, punishing men by using them on first dates, and then they're not getting anything out of it.
	Yeah, a lot of times, yeah.
	Well, once a woman sleeps with a man, he has the power.
	Yes.
	So if you look at it through that lens and that dynamic, women need to hold on to the power that they do have in those early stages.
	And they need to be scrutinizing.
	Because if they go on a first date and they're like looking at it through a man's lens of, oh, well, he just spent a hundred bucks and I'm going to, you know, I feel bad, so I'm going to sleep with him.
	She loses.
	I understand that.
	So that's what I would say to your point.
	So modern dating is basically a situation of a hostage negotiation.
	But you're missing the whole point that overwhelmingly men are the ones that put their nuts on the line, their time on the line, their money on the line, their energy, their resource on the line to deal with women that don't necessarily like them and or even care to want to get to know them, whatever.
	What I'm trying to say is guys will do all that in the pursuit of sex and hang out with a girl that they don't even like.
	So here's what I think women need to do a better job at, because I know quite a few women who are dinner daters, and they will go on multiple dates with a guy.
	It's never going to change.
	But, well, what I think they should do, which I do, is if you know off the bat that you're not into someone, don't go on a second or third date.
	Now, also, though, with men, if you feel like this is the best girl you could possibly get with, and you want to impress her because you think that that will elevate your status, you like her femininity, then I think testing her and cheaping out on a date might be shooting yourself in the foot.
	Because if you see her value, you're going to want to spend money on her.
	Wouldn't it be better for him to level up his game so she's not the best?
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Most women don't have as much value as you're trying to purport, to be honest with you.
	The reality is men bring value to relationships, not women.
	Women are a diamond dozen.
	Most of them are attractive to a degree, and most of them are fairly similar.
	The problem is that a lot of girls think that they're special, and they think, I'm a diamond dozen, I'm so special, blah, blah, blah.
	The reality is you guys are not as special as you think you guys are.
	The things that you bring to the table that you think make you special, like status in a career no one gives a fuck about.
	And the things that men actually look for in women are scarce.
	Not being a whore, not being annoying, not being loud and obnoxious, not being all over the internet showing your body off, etc.
	This is what's actually rare, but women go ahead and cover things that men don't really value that much and they think that's what makes them special.
	And it doesn't.
	So can I say something?
	It sounds like when she was saying what she was saying, you were like, never going to happen, not going to happen.
	Yeah.
	Because women have the leverage and they're not going to concede it.
	Right, right.
	But it sounds like you're trying to save men from nature.
	Predatory behavior is not gender specific.
	He wants something.
	That's his nature.
	It is a high level of I want vagina.
	With her, it's a high level of I want protector, provider.
	That is the nature.
	And life isn't fair.
	We've all seen, we all watch Discovery Channel.
	There's that bird that spins for three hours trying to get the attention.
	Of that ladybird.
	And the ladybird says, uh, maybe, yeah, no.
	But it seems like humans are the only ones that don't understand.
	Sometimes you win.
	Sometimes you lose.
	Keep it pushing.
	But instead, you want to change the nature of the thing.
	Women will never change.
	Men will never change.
	It is not gender specific.
	The bird knows it and he spins for three hours.
	And sometimes he doesn't get laid.
	But he spins again.
	The problem is that he's spinning for a female who isn't going to be useless to what she's supposed to do.
	Women, right?
	Human women, a lot of times, don't necessarily deserve the type of man that they think that they deserve and they don't bring to the table the thing that men used to be able to get for all these things that you guys cherish and want in men.
	We used to be able to get a dutiful, submissive, good girl that wasn't a whore that we could be rest assured that more than likely she had less than three body count by the time we married her or a virgin.
	Yes, you're saying that since the beginning of time, that's how it's been and everything else like that, but it's not a fair deal for men anymore.
	Here's the thing.
	Women have a worse product.
	They're more worse.
	They're fatter.
	They're uglier.
	They're ruder, etc.
	And they're still demanding the top tier guys.
	So what I'm saying is like, yo, this is a losing war for you.
	You need to go ahead and come in and date more defensively and understand that women have changed and they're not necessarily going to give you what you think you want or deserve.
	So I'm telling guys what it really is.
	Isn't it a losing war?
	Well, I want to comment on the submissiveness.
	And the last thing I'll say real quick, and I'll turn it to you, is...
	Fuck, I lost my train of thought.
	Go ahead with the submissiveness.
	Okay, so women have been submissive, and they'll care.
	Wait, what did you say?
	Excuse me?
	Didn't you tell me to keep up when I lost my train of thought?
	I'm saying a million things right now.
	Running a show, answering questions, dealing with 11 girls plus.
	Just get the fuck out of here, dude.
	Just get out.
	Just leave.
	Can I say something?
	We're not going to lower the IQ of the podcast for you.
	What are you saying?
	So, on submissiveness...
	Just leave.
	I don't know what the fuck you think this is.
	Women have catered to men.
	Women have catered to men and sometimes the women don't get treated the same for even doing all these things.
	So why should women just effortlessly give it to this man who supposedly has value and brings something to the table?
	Sure, you want to comment on that?
	Well, I was gonna say, everybody, like, I've heard this thing, women have catered to men for years and years, but listen, okay, when women...
	But those men were also responsible for everything she did.
	Why, when a woman misbehaved or created, like, a family feud or something at 1800s, why did the men have to go fight a duel?
	They were the ones who shed blood for her actions.
	Like, the men were responsible.
	I mean, yeah, the women catered to the men, but also the men were held responsible for what they did.
	And...
	That's the old school prize.
	I know what I'm trying to say, but I'm just saying, with the rise of femininity and where it's gone, though, with feminism and stuff, I feel like it's important for people like Myron, who gives a voice to men that are in a hopeless situation.
	Like, where feminism is going, it leaves men in a hopeless world.
	But what about women who get trauma?
	They have trauma.
	There's domestic violence.
	There's abuse.
	We get that, but we've overcorrected for feminism now where women have all the leverage.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	It's almost about revenge now.
	In dating, women have all the leverage.
	And that's what I was trying to say.
	The guy will go out on a date with the girl.
	He's still expected to adhere to his masculine duty of paying for the date, leading the date, planning the date, all this other stuff, right?
	But the woman isn't necessarily adhering to her feminine duties and responsibilities.
	He can rest assured that he's going to get a girl that's probably masculine to a degree.
	They didn't even know Yeah, a lot of girls don't even know what they're supposed to do and how they're supposed to behave.
	He's going to go ahead and fight tooth and nail and be chivalrous to a woman that isn't necessarily a lady back.
	She's going to have bodies on her.
	She's going to be involved in maybe a profession or a career.
	She's going to be masculinized.
	She's going to have maybe a child, etc.
	These are all things that guys didn't have to deal with 50, 60, 70 years ago.
	I think the problem is most women expect the same treatment of a traditional treatment.
	But they don't want to be traditional themselves, and I've seen it a lot.
	Like, I mean, maybe it's the social media, like, saturating my brain with it, but you see it all over, where it's like, a woman's like, I'm a bad bitch, I'm independent, like, he better give me this, he better give me that, but I don't know how to cook, I don't know how to clean, you know, I really actually don't want to have sex with you unless the dick is going to be to my satisfaction, but I do deserve this, I do deserve that, I deserve this, I deserve this.
	You guys had a video when I was on there at one point, Fresh, when it was...
	I forget which one it was.
	It was an Instagram reel, I think is what it was.
	And it was this exchange between this woman and this man.
	And the man was talking to the woman.
	He was saying, well, I'm not going to be the feminine, submissive, traditional 20th century ideal woman for you until you measure up to my expectations.
	And then I'll do that.
	I forget which one that was.
	But the guy was like, so I have to be...
	Husband material first for you to even want to be wife material for me.
	For you to think about if you're going to.
	If you can find that video for me, I would love to analyze this.
	I don't feel like all women have to be the traditional women.
	You can be a career.
	Here's the thing.
	What you were describing is old school patriarchy.
	Patriarchy is not a bad thing.
	There's a side to it that's not talked about a lot.
	There's a difference between Androcentrism and patriarchy.
	Patriarchy is a much more balanced system than anybody wants to give it credit for because in an ideal state, patriarchy implied masculine responsibility.
	A man is responsible for his kids and for his family and for his wife and for the home and to keep the lights on and everything else and to bust his ass and to sacrifice himself as your masculine duty is to sacrifice things and make sacrifice for that family.
	But there also came a commensurate authority that was along with that.
	So if he said, this is where we're going, this is where the job is, this is where the kids are going to go to school, this is what we're going to do, that masculine authority was implied because he had that responsibility.
	Today, guys are confused because they have, we say, well, we can save the West and we can make men better men now if we just took more responsibility and guys just man up and took more responsibility.
	But the problem is, is they don't have the authority to affect All of the things that that responsibility requires of them right now.
	So women are like, and women on the other side of this say, well, I'm not going to be that submissive, wonderful woman that you want me to be until you're that guy who takes that responsibility.
	I guess that's what I'm trying to say.
	And you have no authority in the first place to be that guy.
	There just can't be equal rights without equal responsibility.
	Equal responsibility.
	And I guess what I was trying to say is, yeah, women were...
	There's no equality.
	But yeah, men and women are not...
	There's no equality.
	They have different roles.
	And that's the way women want it, is they don't want equality.
	You were trying to say something before, right?
	I was.
	I just wanted to say that I think that we are fighting nature.
	I don't think anybody's traditional anymore.
	I think that men are having a very difficult time with the quote-unquote modern woman.
	Life is not fair.
	You have to work harder for something you're not qualified for.
	Men and women have to do that.
	There are women that are not as attractive, and a man will make her jump through hoops or only want her for sex.
	Be that bird that keeps spinning.
	I am out.
	Thank you so much.
	On the block with Jen all week I disagree with you on that, and the reason why I disagree with you on that is that average women have more access to higher status men than they've ever had before, whereas men, on the other hand, are struggling to get average women.
	The average guy cannot attract the average woman right now, and the average woman, quite frankly, is useless and delusional and doesn't offer much value to men.
	Because here's the problem.
	We're still expected to play by rules from 1953 while women are playing by rules in 2023.
	Guys are expected to be traditional, masculine, strong, do all these things for them, but what are they fighting for?
	They're fighting for a woman that isn't coming to them pure like it would have been seven years ago.
	So my thing is men have to play by a certain set of rules that women want, but the women aren't bringing something back of reciprocal value.
	Well, we'll agree to disagree.
	Thank you guys.
	Good night.
	Nice meeting you.
	Good night.
	I mean, that's an absolute fact that...
	Okay, I mean, if you gotta go, you gotta go.
	I feel like...
	We can agree to disagree.
	Thank you guys.
	Have a good night.
	Good night.
	Bye.
	I feel like there are wholesome, good girls...
	Can you come sit over here?
	There are wholesome good girls, but men, and I'm not denying what you said, but I have observed that a lot of men will pick the insta-thought, the girl who's showing off her small waist and her fat ass, and who's posting bikini photos, over the good girl who's not bearing at all, and maybe is wifey material, because there's so much of that out there, too.
	I hear what you're saying, but I also think a lot of men, that's why we have a lot of men who have Peter Pan syndrome right now, too.
	And they don't want to commit to a great girl who is wifey material because they are so caught up in the instant gratification.
	Explain Peter Pan syndrome to me real fast.
	I know what you mean, but I want you to, like...
	Well, Peter Pan implying men who don't want to grow up.
	How old are they?
	I would say I've seen this in mid-40s.
	Mid-40s.
	I've seen mid-40s to 50s.
	Okay.
	I feel attacked.
	Do you think it's really Peter Pan or is it intelligent engineering?
	If you knew, if you were a man and you were in today's day and age and you had a high net worth and you had a bunch of assets and resources and you knew that women were more hoarse than ever before, not feminine, not submissive, not probably going to listen to you, more masculine, going to put their career over you, they can go ahead and take you to court at any time, you lose your kids, lose half your money, et cetera, would you want to you lose your kids, lose half your money, et cetera, would you want to stay Peter Pan or would you actually want to
	Well, I think you're talking about a certain group of women, and I think even though that might represent perhaps the majority, there is a minority of women who are going to be, to your point, more in their feminine energy, more submissive, more naturally whitey material.
	Is it worth the risk?
	Are you going to risk your money for that minority then?
	And everything you worked for?
	I think if you have already exercised a lot of your options and you find someone who checks enough of your boxes and you want to start a family with them, Then it might be worth it.
	Name one benefit that a man gets from marriage that he wouldn't get in a regular relationship.
	Just one.
	Well, you, I think, as a woman...
	I'm asking you as a man, since you're attacking men for being Peter Pan.
	I think a lot of men...
	Who choose to get married are incentivized by the fact that they are able to claim that woman is theirs.
	But name one benefit that they would get in a marriage that they wouldn't get in a regular relationship.
	Well, I think even though it's not a hundred percent, there's peace of mind that that woman is not.
	The answer is there's none.
	You're dancing around it.
	There is none.
	So my thing is this.
	I think it's in a man's best interest to stay Peter Pan, as you would say.
	And I think women shame men because men gain their value in their 40s.
	Men understand the sexual marketplace better.
	They understand that women have no leverage in their 40s.
	And they date down and they get younger, more attractive girls.
	And that's the best way to go in today's day and age, where we live in a deregulated sexual marketplace where women can take everything they got, take their kids, etc.
	Why the hell would a guy want to commit to women nowadays when, honestly, we got wholeflation?
	I think it's also setting a good example to children that you have a family nucleus.
	And I think there's something to be said about that.
	Well, you can do that without the state getting involved in getting married.
	You know what?
	I think it shows your children that there is a higher level of commitment between the mother and the father when there's the marriage as the union.
	Get married privately without the state involved.
	Well, you need to stay involved then.
	I agree with that.
	I'm not saying that, you know, there's obviously more incentive for women to get married than men.
	Obviously.
	Way more.
	But what I'm suggesting is there's also benefits to men getting married.
	Name one.
	I just told you.
	That he wouldn't get outside of a regular relationship.
	I just told you.
	Knowing that your woman is perhaps going to be more loyal to you when she's your wife versus your girlfriend.
	She should be displaying that anyway.
	So a title changes her loyalty to you?
	He shouldn't marry her if that's in question.
	To be honest, if a man is dating a woman for 10 years and she is giving him an ultimatum, I'm either going to get the ring or I'm going to walk, I think if he sees her value, he'll put a ring on it.
	I think that's the worst thing you could do because now she controls the frame because she just literally bullied you to do something that you don't want to do.
	She spent 10 years of her life with a man who didn't see her as wifey material.
	He did.
	My thing is, marriage, I get it, is a benefit for the woman, but ultimately for the guy, what's the benefit for him?
	And once again, if you're with somebody long term, you're with them regardless.
	Why do I need to put a title on it to make it serious?
	Well, perhaps, maybe there are people who are religious too, who marriage represents something between them and God.
	Perfect.
	Let's get married in a church.
	No government involved, just a church.
	Yeah, I mean, but that's still marriage.
	Here's the thing.
	It's interesting.
	You have a matchmaking business.
	You're in TV and everything.
	You're probably a high-end worth individual, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Would you get with a guy, right, and let's say you get with him and everything else like that when there's a high likelihood that he's going to divorce you and take half your assets and the kids?
	Would you put everything you work for on the line like that, realistically speaking?
	If he was earning less than me?
	Let's say you guys are making equal, just to make it, just so that your sexual attraction is there.
	I believe in a prenup.
	I believe in a prenup.
	I do too as well.
	And I, by the way, let me tell you something else.
	It's amazing how when her money's on the line, there's prenuptial agreements.
	No, no, no, no.
	I'll say this too.
	If a man made money and I was not bringing as much to the table, I would gladly sign a prenup because I would want him to believe that I was there for the right reasons and I would hopefully be there for the right reasons.
	That's funny.
	That's exactly what James Sexton was saying.
	Because women are making more money these days, you're going to see more prenups that are initiated by women because guys are broke ass.
	And the guys will agree to it because they want the pussy.
	Only fans prenups.
	My thing is, because women love to say guys are going through a midlife crisis, guys are Peter Pans, they don't want to grow up, blah, blah, blah.
	But my thing is, You guys live life on easy mode.
	You get all your value at 18 years old.
	Your life is great.
	You're on yachts.
	Millionaires are talking to you.
	You're getting DM'd on Instagram.
	On dating apps, you can swipe right and everyone's going to match with you.
	Women live life on easy mode when they're in their 20s and even into their 30s.
	So a man doesn't really gain his value into his 30s and 40s.
	And then I find it funny.
	Women say he's going through a midlife crisis.
	No, I call it an awakening that most girls, quite frankly, don't deserve a relationship long term.
	And that's just the God honest truth.
	I totally understand that if a man has spent his entire life working and grinding and struggling and then he reaches 35 or 40 and he's finally peaking, I get it.
	Have your fun.
	But what I'm saying is by 50, if you're still like Leonardo DiCaprio syndrome, I don't see that as attractive in a man, personally.
	Why didn't you get married at 18?
	I think I wanted to feel like I was a full, well-rounded individual before I made a commitment to someone.
	But that was your peak in all argumentative stance here?
	I don't think so.
	I think I'm kind of at my peak right now.
	At 28?
	You're on your decline, respectfully speaking.
	Well, I think aesthetically I look better now than I did when I was 18.
	I was a little chubbier when I was 18.
	Okay.
	Well, women's peak year is between 18 to 23.
	I would agree with that.
	Like, that's just what it is biologically.
	You know, I know you say, I feel like I look more attractive, but what you feel and what's real are two different things.
	You're going to have the most sexual market pull as a female between 18 to 23.
	It's funny that you weren't married or really pushing for a guy at that time.
	You focused on your career, making money, which is where you're at now.
	But I find it interesting how when you were at your peak, it was okay for you to focus on yourself.
	But when a man's at his peak, he should settle down and should find a woman at 50.
	I'm not saying that that's what he should do.
	I'm not here to tell people how to live their life.
	Well, I think that would be, in my opinion, the right thing to do, but I'm not going to tell people how to live their life.
	You're saying you would not find that attractive if a man was in his 50s.
	Yeah, I'd see that as a red flag.
	Okay.
	I'm getting attacked.
	I see that as a red flag when a woman's 28.
	I'm just getting attacked everywhere.
	That's fine, and you're allowed to.
	But you can date the 18-year-olds just like I can date people, or 23-year-olds, just like I can date people who I find are more age-appropriate and looking for something significant.
	I don't think...
	Here's another point.
	If a man is 45 and still a bachelor, does he want to be 55 and just starting to change diapers?
	Well, at that point, that's when he has money.
	He gets a younger wife.
	The funny thing is, we have a guy right here in that same demographic.
	Can I just say something?
	I'm being completely serious here.
	I'm 46 years old, and I can still beat most guys off the dribble.
	I do think that with modern medicine and with hormone replacement, you can be 55, 60.
	Hormone optimization.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I really don't think it's that big of a deal.
	of a deal.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	I can make David's agree.
	I book it.
	Yeah.
	Say something about that.
	After he goes, you go.
	Shout out to Colonel Spencer.
	We had this one colonel in my unit, and he had his first kid at 59, and he was happier than a motherfucker.
	Had three houses paid off, had plenty of net worth, and had his beautiful 32-year-old wife, and he was happy as shit.
	I'm not saying it's ideal.
	I understand.
	At some point, I'd probably be better if I did it when I was younger, but I just think things have changed for men from a health standpoint where I do think there are things you can do now to Especially for men to elongate that.
	I was saying, you know, on the comment of women from 18 to 23, they don't have a lot of life experience.
	So I don't really see that a woman at 28 is going to decline.
	I don't really know why men care about the life experience.
	Life experience is important.
	How is she going to handle challenges?
	The reason why women get very upset when they see a 45-year-old guy with a 21-year-old girlfriend is because it is a...
	That's true, but I think that one of the reasons why whenever Leonardo DiCaprio cycles out a new girlfriend, and we know how he does that...
	Women get very upset about that because it reminds them that the man can live a different way than that woman can.
	So a woman who is 50 some odd years old is in menopause and is not going to be able to live the same way that a man does.
	The problem is that we've conditioned the last four generations of women to believe that they can do anything a man can.
	And so we've masculinized women and we've feminized men during this entire process.
	So women still think in this terms of this blank slate equalism that, well, I can do anything a guy does.
	And then they realize that they can't actually do that because that guy who is a high value guy at 45, 55, 64, whatever it is, and he's dating much younger women, on average, statistically speaking, that's a Very rare anomaly for women to be able to do something like that.
	And that's only if she maintains really, you know, she looks good at like, say, 50 years old.
	Maybe.
	But even then, she still has to fight with the stigma of dating a younger guy.
	Absolutely.
	So I'm actually going to agree with you on this, Rolo.
	Women are just given access to things sooner in life, and men are given them later in life.
	Slow earn.
	Yeah, slow earners.
	Only if they do the work.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	They have to earn it.
	But once they earn that access to certain status or things in life, trust, whatever it is, ability to reach money, things like that, they maintain that access so much longer.
	Women are on a gradual or fast decline with their value and men have to create it.
	Men must become, women just are.
	Men, okay, kings can make any woman a queen.
	A queen cannot make any woman a king.
	I think I'm the guy who said that.
	Right?
	Is there any truth?
	A queen can make a man a queen consort.
	You mentioned earlier that men want, you know, a 23-year-old doesn't have experience, etc.
	So I'm going to ask you a few questions here.
	Do you want a man with ambition?
	Of course.
	Do you want a man with strength?
	Of course.
	Do you want a man with some facial hair?
	No.
	Now you don't care about for sure?
	Not really, yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you want a man with confidence?
	Yes.
	Masculinity?
	Yes.
	Height?
	Taller than you, preferably.
	Yeah, it's taller than me, yes.
	Okay, and do you want a man with experience, competence?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	What if I told you that men don't give a shit about any of these things you just mentioned?
	I'm sure they don't.
	So that includes experience, which is what you tried to argue.
	Okay.
	I'm just saying that.
	Yes, I get what you're saying, but it's like a woman at 1823, how are you going to have a conversation with her if you're older than her?
	Men in general want a girl that they can...
	Mold.
	That they can mold.
	Because the thing is that if you don't mold her, either more than likely the man before you molded her and you don't want that.
	Social media.
	Or social media molded her, etc.
	Luckily, if you're lucky, you get a girl that was molded by her father.
	Her father wasn't a piece of shit.
	He was a winner.
	He was a masculine guy.
	And he taught her what it's like to be a lady and then you take her from him.
	But the reality is you're not going to get that.
	She's going to be molded by someone else and you've got to pray to God that she isn't molded by him too much.
	But the point I'm trying to make is this.
	Men don't value experience.
	Women do.
	But women tend to think that men and women are the same.
	And we want a girl that's experienced.
	No, we want a girl that's experienced only for sex.
	No offense to your career.
	Sure.
	But when it comes to a relationship, a girl that we're going to take seriously, we don't want her to have any experience.
	I've met a lot of men who are older right now.
	I speak to them.
	They're 40, 50.
	And them talking to younger women is really difficult.
	Where do you speak to them?
	Strip club.
	Or it may not be in the strip club.
	It may even be out with friends.
	You gotta understand that who you are and the context under which you speak to the men matters a lot.
	They know that you're a porn star.
	They know that you're a sex worker.
	So they're gonna tell you what you want to hear.
	Ladies, I'm gonna give you the biggest thing.
	Yes, I don't care what you say.
	That's the reality.
	No.
	This is what it is, women.
	Men are going to say and do anything to get sex.
	That includes to appease to your ego and your ego investment.
	So if you're highly educated, you got a master degree or whatever, for example, you went to Columbia, oh, I have a friend that went to an IV too.
	Oh, maybe I've been to Harvard before, blah, blah, blah.
	They're going to figure out what you do or what your background is, and they're going to go ahead and try to fucking chameleon way they're in there.
	Because as you guys can tell, it's very difficult for men to get sex.
	That's why your industry is popping right now.
	That's why some girls here can have an OnlyFans and make a bunch of money doing it.
	Because men are struggling to get sex, so they're going to say and do anything they can to do so.
	So that includes to appease your ego.
	Now, generally, from a relationship standpoint, most guys will not take you seriously.
	No offense.
	But to get sex, they're going to say dumb shit like, I want a girl with experience, blah, blah, blah.
	And of course they're going to say that at a strip club.
	Come on, man.
	Yeah, so I have a friend.
	I was at a party.
	And I heard him ask a girl what her Zodiac was.
	And I about spit out my drink.
	Because he thinks that it's bullshit.
	Go get it.
	I know how he is.
	He's always talking like that.
	I can't imagine anyone doing that.
	I cannot imagine anyone realizing it's bullshit.
	I was like, he's not.
	It is so hard for the average guy.
	It is so hard for the average guy to get girls that men have to employ ridiculous, ludicrous concepts and strategies to attract women.
	I mean, think about it.
	You guys all said, oh yeah, if I don't like the guy, he's got to do X, Y, Z, he's got to jump through hoops, blah, blah, blah.
	Like, clearly there's guys that are jumping through hoops.
	If you guys are able to do that.
	Just take the L and walk away.
	Just take the no.
	Just take the L. Or let us have the W and spend the money.
	I think it's natural for women to want to figure out if they can pull the best possible guy they can.
	And that's the dating process, right?
	And we as women are driven by status.
	And so a man who's higher status is very appealing, just like a beautiful woman who's malleable, to your point, is very appealing to men.
	But you have to realize that some pros also come with some cons.
	What's more common, a beautiful woman or a high-status man?
	A beautiful woman.
	And that's where women...
	Hold on, hold on.
	That's where women fuck up.
	They think that they're special and I'm pretty and I have XYZ and the reality is...
	You're a matchmaker.
	You've got to know this.
	How hard is it to deal with so many girls that have ridiculous standards that don't necessarily qualify for the man that they think they are?
	What do you tell them?
	I usually tell them you have two choices.
	You either self-improve or you lower your expectations.
	Those are the choices.
	And we know chicks aren't going to self-improve because they're special.
	Well, not always.
	I mean, for example, for me, and I do say some things that are kind of controversial and a lot of women don't like it, but I had a client I spoke to today.
	Indian girl, single, wants a nice Indian guy.
	Currently talking to a doctor.
	Indian doctor makes 300 grand a year.
	That's a rarity right there.
	But she paid for the first date.
	She put out, and she's also just lost her job, and she is 5'3 and 180 pounds.
	I said to her babe, we're going to look at the BMI chart.
	You need to be losing 60 pounds in the next 12 months if you want this kind of man.
	As an anecdotal guy to wife you, right?
	Otherwise, he's not going to take you seriously.
	You are the easy chick.
	And that is the reality.
	Can't pull the body positivity card.
	You know what, listen.
	And the Raiders need help at right tackle.
	So, like, maybe she could help.
	So, I'm straightforward that way.
	But that's part of you either self-improve or you lower your expectations.
	Those are the options.
	But here's the thing.
	Here's the problem.
	It took a professional matchmaker to tell her, you need to self-improve.
	See, this is what I'm trying to say.
	Because her mom didn't teach her.
	But here's the thing.
	This is why women are delusional.
	She had to get a professional to tell her that she's fat.
	You want to know how men know that they're fat or they're losers?
	They just go outside.
	Hey, you're a fat slob.
	Girls don't want to talk to you.
	You don't get calls returned.
	People don't respond, etc.
	Men get real-time reflection of where they stand in the sexual marketplace.
	Women don't.
	Well, and we're actually getting the opposite.
	We're getting the opposite because we have a society that panders to women and tells them, you don't have to change a damn thing and you can get something you've never gotten before.
	Can we also mention that he smashed her and she's a fatty?
	So what's even worse is like when a girl is fat like let's say let's say we're sitting on this right now like somebody writes like I'm a fucking fat slob like most girls be like but girl you got a fat ass So don't worry, don't care what they say.
	They lie to each other all the time instead of just being like...
	A girl saying she has a fat ass when she's 200 pounds is like saying I have a fast car because I just ramped it off the edge of the Grand Canyon.
	Yeah, it fell down fast.
	My car's so fast, man.
	What's that?
	Because either you have sabotaging friends or you have friends that don't want to be mean and tell them, like, yeah, yo, you getting a little bit big.
	Like, you might want to fix that.
	Or, hey, your standards are a little high and you're saying you're a bad bitch and you're a boss bitch, but you're 200 pounds and 5'3".
	That's crazy.
	But their mamas have told them ever, ever since.
	Okay, we have some chats here as well.
	Yeah, we can hit some chats.
	Did anyone else have anything?
	I want to make sure everyone has a voice and gets to say what they want to say before.
	Okay, so you guys all think Hoflation is real too.
	Okay, cool.
	Okay, so we'll read some of these chats.
	And I think we did have some, one of the guys asked a pretty good question here.
	If you met a guy and he was the guy, etc., what would you do to ensure that second date, ladies?
	Assuming the first date went well and you checked all your boxes off, etc.
	What would you ensure to get that second date?
	Start here.
	I mean, there's really no way of ensuring it.
	I'm not going to be the one to ask you, but I initiate it saying, would you like to go do something on Wednesday, right?
	Or like set an actual day, time.
	Well, outside of you actually asking him, what would you do from your actions and your behaviors to ensure?
	Act as myself.
	I'm not going to portray myself to be something that I'm not.
	And either you like me or you don't.
	That's it.
	And I'm not going to fake myself just to get a second date with you and then later on I'm gonna...
	So essentially you would do nothing.
	You would do nothing to get a second date.
	She's the number one pole dancer in Vegas.
	I think that's enough.
	Should that not be enough?
	That should seal the deal for the second date for sure.
	Could you imagine if we just told guys, just act yourself, man!
	Just act yourself!
	What should you do to keep the girls?
	Nothing.
	Act yourself, man.
	She should just know.
	I really would just act myself.
	And if you don't like me, then that's okay.
	There's plenty of other men who will come and probably ask me on a second date who are just as handsome.
	There you go.
	Dude, that is so important.
	I think guys need to understand that girls don't feel the need to impress you or go super hard because there's so many other guys that will be there right behind you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And they're constantly reminded.
	Well, until they get a bit older, like right over here.
	Yeah.
	I would probably do.
	I'm sorry.
	I gotta go, but nice to meet you guys.
	Thank you for the invite.
	Thank you.
	Dropping like flies.
	Hey, just so the girls know, if you leave early, we're taking your name off the thing.
	FYI. We don't play that shit, but it's fine.
	Go ahead.
	You made your decision.
	It's fine.
	But we move different here at Fresher Fit, man.
	I would probably do something maybe uncharacteristic of myself if I knew that it was something that would impress him or something that he would...
	So, for instance, I've been so fucked over by religion.
	I'm kind of done with religion at this point.
	But if I knew he was religious, I would probably be open to hearing about his religion.
	Maybe even, like, if I wanted to be his wife, maybe even joining or going with him to church.
	Like, something that would probably be very uncharacteristic, like, against maybe...
	You would acquiesce to him.
	Yes.
	What about you?
	What would you do?
	To ensure a second date.
	So, to ensure my second date?
	Yeah.
	So, I usually know when I'm on my...
	I usually know on the first date even like before the first date if I like would actually vibe with the person vibe whatever the word if I click with the person but if I end up clicking with them and I actually want the second date I would usually probably just ask like hey we're gonna meet up again let's go that take that okay yeah like I'm actually not like opposed to being the person even asked to go on the first date or to be like okay hey when are we gonna do this or When you go out with women, are you the more dominant one?
	Yeah, I'm the more dominant.
	I would like to be the more submissive with men, but sometimes I end up jumping the gun.
	Because I usually know what I want.
	No, that's fine.
	What about you?
	Start off by being appreciative of the date, which I always am, but I think just really reinforcing that, like, I had a really lovely time with you.
	Thank you so much.
	Would love to do this again.
	I think that's an important thing because then it signals to him that, like, you're open to meeting up.
	I also think maybe an active physical touch, either a kiss or like a light, you know, hand, because that also just confirms to him that you're willing to be a little bit more intimate.
	Okay.
	Key though, are you going to initiate that keynote or are you going to have him do it?
	I think if it's something like I had such a great time, then that's more initiating.
	But if it's a kiss, I'd be receptive to it.
	Okay.
	And then the third thing I would do is if I was still unsure and I really liked him, I would definitely send him a text, which is a little unconventional for me to text men first because I always like to see, you know, if they have that willingness to lead.
	But I would send him a text.
	I would just reinforce that I'd love to see him again.
	Okay.
	Or, you know, try to maybe send him like an Instagram DM of some sort.
	You mentioned touch.
	I agree with those tips.
	Those are good tips.
	Very good tips.
	You mentioned touch, right?
	Question for you.
	What if you had sex with him?
	Would that be a part of that guarantee?
	On a first date?
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're talking to the wrong person.
	What if?
	I mean, I don't live in that world, but...
	I suppose, hypothetically, if I were to.
	I actually think if I really liked a guy, I wouldn't.
	Not that I do that in general ever, but I would really want to make sure, if that was my nature, that I didn't, because I think, why buy the cow when you're going to get the milk for free?
	But if I did sleep with him on the first date, I would probably think that that was conveying to him that I liked him.
	Yeah.
	That's fair.
	Very much so.
	I agree with that.
	What would you do to ensure a second date?
	For me, I would definitely be appreciative of the date, let him know, reassure him.
	How would you go about that specifically?
	I would say it.
	I would say thank you very much.
	I would text him after the date.
	Let him know I had a good time.
	And I would continue to engage with him.
	Communicate with him.
	So he obviously knows.
	Give him a signal that yes, I'm available.
	Alright.
	What about you?
	I also agree.
	Be appreciative.
	Physical touch would be awesome.
	And then just kind of be a good listener.
	Alright.
	I feel like I'm pretty forward and I would just...
	Tell him.
	Take me out again, motherfucker.
	Or start planning something already.
	Like, if you see something while you're together, start talking about it.
	We should do that.
	Oh, we should go there.
	We should do that.
	I feel like for you, you give him a blunt.
	You know what?
	I like you.
	That's her love language.
	Can we go to the dispensary this time?
	Don't get them too high.
	All right, so we'll read some of these chats.
	Yes.
	And then, oh, I was going to say, did any of you ladies have a question?
	We got one.
	Yeah, we know.
	Okay, I'll answer while he pulls this up.
	It was 50 and up, by the way.
	Yeah, cool.
	You ain't getting out of it.
	No, no, no.
	I'll answer it.
	I'll answer it.
	Because I want to know.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No worries.
	As you guys know, Angie's my main girl.
	But we're in an open relationship.
	Open only on my end, of course.
	Closed on her end.
	But she gets certain benefits that other girls will never get.
	She's a great girl.
	And we went on our first date to North Italia.
	So for the people that are wondering what that is, I would consider it like a mid-tier Italian spot.
	Nothing too fancy.
	It's right there in the middle.
	And yeah, that's where we went on our first date.
	Did you smash on the first date?
	Oh, shit.
	Or before.
	Uh-oh.
	Well, the answer is yes.
	But Angie has a bunch of other redeeming qualities where I said this girl is...
	Because my thing is this.
	Getting late isn't important.
	That's not what it is.
	Because once you get to a certain level, you hook up with girls, you realize you're fucking useless.
	You're a pain in the ass.
	I don't like you that much, etc.
	She added value way outside of that stuff.
	I don't even care about that.
	I mean, not to get too personal.
	We don't even hook up like that that much.
	She adds value outside.
	She helps me with my true crime channel, FedReacts.
	She helps with the researching.
	She cooks.
	She cleans.
	When I go to Columbia, she packed my condoms and shit.
	You're not going to find a girl like that.
	She has a strong father.
	Comes from a strong family.
	She's the opposite of Cardi B. There you go.
	Yeah, she's here with me now.
	She's a great girl, and I really can't think of anything bad to say about her besides she's a midget.
	She walks really short, but she walks really slow, but other than that, she's a great girl, man.
	That's awesome.
	It wasn't supposed to be anything like a curveball.
	It was just me being a little bit more naffy.
	I asked people uncomfortable questions.
	I needed to answer them as well, but yeah, no, I'm proud of her.
	That's why I say the things that I say.
	Fresh, where did you take your girl?
	Thank you.
	Where'd you take your girl for the first time?
	Well, actually, I brought her into my frame.
	So we had a party for YouTube hitting 1 million subscribers.
	I invited her to the party.
	We talked for the first time there.
	Obviously, you know, things happened.
	And it was a great time.
	She enjoyed it.
	That was a date.
	That's really cute.
	And typically, she doesn't go on dates with people she doesn't like.
	So, for example, the whole party itself, she would never go on if she didn't like me at all.
	So, I asked the question earlier.
	Michael Sartain.
	I'm hosting a bikini competition with 70 women and I meet her there and we end up hooking up in Mexico at the resort.
	In Cabo?
	Cancun.
	Foam Cannon party.
	And then from there, I was just like, hey, listen, I want to make plans for you to come back and visit me in Vegas.
	And I don't even know if she took it seriously at the time, and then she flew out to see me.
	But, I mean, that was our first...
	It wasn't really a date.
	We're on an inclusive resort on the beach for an entire week, and that's kind of how it worked out.
	And I want to say this too, because a lot of girls tend to have this misconception that if a guy hooks up with me too quickly, he's not going to take me seriously or whatever.
	What I've come to realize and what I tell a lot of girls is if you're going to hook up with a guy quickly, you need to make sure that you add value quickly where you distinguish yourself from other girls.
	Because if he just hooks up with you and you're just like a regular girl and you don't do shit, you don't cook, you don't clean, you don't add value right away, that guy's like, man, this girl's fucking useless.
	What the fuck?
	But if you do something after the fact that he hooks up with you and he's like, whoa, what the hell?
	And it's memorable.
	Right?
	He's going to be like, okay, I need to keep this girl around.
	So just because a guy has sex quickly with you doesn't necessarily mean that you're disqualified from the race.
	It's just that you need to add value quickly, and I think that's where women fuck up.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	Real quick, Rolo, for you, you've been married for quite some time.
	27 years.
	Where was your first date, brother?
	Let's see, I met my wife at a gig, of course, and then I think our first date was at a Mexican restaurant in Lake Tahoe, actually.
	Okay, tacos?
	A little more than that.
	But that was our first date and the first time I kissed her, actually.
	In the parking lot.
	She knows that.
	Okay.
	You were trying to say something before?
	Oh, I was going to say, yeah, I slept with my boyfriend on the first date.
	And I would think that I would wait.
	But it's like, if you like somebody, you like somebody.
	And I added a lot of value to him because I work actually longer days than him.
	But I work one day less.
	I have four tens.
	But it takes me an hour and a half to get to work there and back.
	And then I still come home and I don't want him to touch a pot or a pan.
	Like, let me cook for you and it's going to be a fresh meal every single night with your lunch the next day.
	I understand.
	Oh, wow.
	And here's the other thing, too, I want to say.
	Women don't understand that most guys go through life and they never really get real, genuine, good treatment from women.
	Most guys have never even gotten a gift from a girl.
	Absolutely.
	So little gestures, if you give it to a guy, he's going to remember that shit, man.
	Compassionate.
	The girls before me were 22, 23, 21, but none of them did anything for him but just give him great sex.
	It's like, okay, yeah, you can have great sex.
	It's not bad for me, but I'm going to give you also a lot more than that.
	All his stuff is ready in the morning.
	I don't complain about my day to him and say, I'm going to come home angry.
	It's very peaceful in our house.
	It always is clean.
	He always has food in his stomach.
	And he has a place to vent every single time.
	But it took me a long time to get to there.
	And actually, it was kind of because of him.
	He was my first red pill podcast that I listened to.
	Didn't know what red pill was.
	Wasn't a feminist.
	But at the same time, I think I was more raised to be an independent woman more than a wife.
	And I didn't understand the difference.
	And then I started watching him, and then I watched a little bit of you guys, and I'm like, oh man, I am being very masculine and deterring.
	Being the man that I want, but I'm being the man also with a man.
	Gotcha.
	If that made sense.
	You're being the man that you're attracted to.
	Yeah, and I was being too dominant, and I was actually like...
	I was pushing really good men away.
	Although I did date a lot of terrible people that were mean to me, but I really was not doing the best I can as a woman, and I started to realize, man, I need to chill out, listen, understand, I need to provide peace, and do a little bit less.
	That's good, man.
	And I'm really glad that you woke up, because a lot of girls don't realize this until it's too late, and it's like, damn, it's way past the time.
	And I've always said, girl game, Guy game is being able to attain the girl and get the sex.
	Girl game is being able to retain the guy after you fuck him.
	And I would argue that's where most girls fail, is they're not able to keep the guy after they have sex with him.
	Absolutely.
	Because, I mean, even like when we...
	So, let's say he messes up, we get in a fight.
	My friends are giving me advice of like, oh, fuck that.
	I would never accept that.
	You did it.
	I'm like, no, no, no.
	I have gotten that so much from my friends.
	And I've also gotten like...
	Well, how do you know if you haven't tried more guys?
	And I'm like, it's good and I'm happy.
	Why do I need to try everybody?
	There's a prime example of that today.
	Tyrese and his wife.
	So Tyrese married this woman, right?
	Gave her everything.
	Gave her the world.
	And her friends got in her ear and said, hey, listen.
	He's not doing enough.
	You know, you could do better than him.
	He's not really your type anyway.
	She'll leave him.
	She left him and she's come back now saying, you know what?
	I messed up.
	Messed up.
	He was a great man.
	I don't know why I left.
	She said, I felt like my friends were telling me the truth and listen to them.
	And she regrets it.
	Totally not.
	Let me ask you this question as a matchmaker.
	As a matchmaker, how much do you have to tell women to not listen to their vultuous friends?
	Vulturism.
	I'm stealing that.
	That's a good word.
	I don't have to tell them that too often because they pay me for that to give them that good advice.
	But on my social media page, a lot of the things I do...
	But do their friends tell them advice that contradicts what you tell them?
	Of course.
	And family sometimes too.
	So do you have to give them almost a pep talk like don't listen to what people say, listen to what the fuck I tell you.
	A lot of it, yes.
	And a lot of it is also don't listen to what big...
	Dating advice influencers tell you, which is usually you don't have to change yourself for a man.
	You're perfect as you are.
	The right person is going to just show up and come and, you know, cross your fingers and close your eyes and say these affirmations.
	That might help you with your confidence internally, but that's not necessarily a roadmap to success in your love life.
	And I tell women, and I know this is like, I've had a lot of pushback with this because it's like, oh, we already hear the biological clock.
	But I think women should be scared shitless to be childless.
	And I think that should be the driver in your dating decisions.
	You should be looking for men who you could see as the father to your future children.
	Make motherhood cool again.
	It's absolutely cool.
	Put a baby in her.
	Now they're saying, I can be a single mother, I can go to a sperm bank, and it's like, who wants to raise a child without an actual male to help them out?
	Successful women.
	I work with a lot of very successful alpha boss babe women, educated.
	And that's why they like me, because I'm kind of those things on paper, I suppose.
	Yeah, they're not awful.
	So I had one client, for example.
	She sold her business for $20 million.
	She is extremely out of shape, almost 300 pounds.
	And she had two baby daddies.
	And for her, it was literally just, I want to have a child with any guy, but those men are absent.
	And there's good things that come with having a child, but look at your men as, could this man be the father of my child?
	Right?
	Because then it does turn into single motherhood and statistics show that the kids are impacted by that.
	Girls need dads.
	Well, two-parent households are statistically shown to improve the child's performance in school, childhood obesity.
	Loneliness epidemic is huge right now, too.
	One in four adults are lonely right now.
	And so we need to also make being in relationships cool again.
	And I think what the problem is, is a lot of women have unrealistically high expectations and standards.
	Like I was talking to one of my girlfriends today and she said to me, we were talking about this podcast, she said to me, You need to go on there and say men need to be more successful.
	That's what she wanted me to say.
	They need to be taller and have larger penises.
	All of them.
	Just get richer.
	All of you.
	Men, why can't you step up and just be richer and better looking?
	And I said to her, you know, but women also need to provide value to those types of men because those types of men have, you know, the pick of the litter.
	There's 50 other women vying for that position.
	Is he going to turn him down?
	No.
	He doesn't have to.
	And that's what...
	A lot of girls don't realize.
	I also think a lot of women I've coached and worked with in matchmaking overestimate their sexual marketplace value because of their education and the money that they've made.
	And a lot of it, they need to put more focus on, and I know it sounds superficial, but they need to put more focus in their nurturing abilities and their appearance.
	I hate to pick on you, and I really appreciate you being here because we have such opposite opinions of things, so thank you.
	But honestly, You mentioned way earlier about the Peter Pan effect on men right now, but that's what actually attracted me to the man I was with, was the fact that he was so fun and outgoing, and I don't want to control him, I don't want to change him, as long as he's respectful to me, does what he needs to do at the end of the day, but he still wants to act, not so much immature, but wants to just have fun and be lively.
	I love that.
	I think that would be great for...
	Maybe a father one day, right?
	Because then he's wanting to have that same type of relationship with potentially kids in the future.
	How long have you guys been together?
	We've been together...
	Six months.
	Yep, six months.
	How old are you again?
	I'm 28.
	Okay, so we're the same age, right?
	Right.
	But we're also really different in the sense that, you know, I think there are two types of people when it comes to dating.
	There are people who are like, I'm just looking for someone to love me as I am.
	And then there are people who are like, I'm looking for someone who...
	I am who is going to provide status and who is going to elevate me and who we're going to elevate each other.
	Right.
	And I look at a lot of times marriage, for example, as and this sounds bad, but I do look at it as like a business in a lot of ways, because that's someone who you're going to be making those decisions with.
	And that's all it was in like for history, dynasties and like empires, everything.
	Marriage was a contract, a business contract.
	It was a tax-free transfer of wealth between families.
	And it was to create alliances and strategy.
	I'm not disagreeing with that.
	Take that with a grain of salt, though, because I know that's the first thing anybody says, this is what marriage was really about.
	But you've got to remember, you're talking about the Medici family and the high renaissance, and we're making all of these power plays.
	Aristocrats.
	That's true.
	Aristocrats.
	You know what?
	The commoners and the serfs and the peasants and the schmucks working in the mud, they got married too.
	That's true.
	They still did the same damn thing.
	So it wasn't just that.
	Well, I think the point you're trying to make though is like you're in love with your boyfriend, right?
	That's like what I gauged from that.
	You guys love each other?
	Yes.
	We actually just moved in together this week.
	Oh shit.
	Yeah.
	And it took us, and I will say this.
	Have you guys had to talk yet?
	About children?
	In the future?
	No, about like...
	Cheating?
	No.
	Pole dancing?
	Yeah.
	That talk is going to come.
	Actually, no, no, no.
	That talk is coming, trust me.
	And it's totally okay, and I don't want to give away too much because it's a very, very small industry.
	But he was actually involved in more of the adult film industry of things.
	And so when he meets me, he's like, not to say that anything else was bad because he had relationships for five, six years with other women who were in the industry that he absolutely loved.
	But when he meets me, he's like, you're an absolute angel, comparatively.
	Okay.
	To other things, right?
	And I don't want to say that women who are in the sex industry are not, right?
	Do not bring value, because that's not true.
	There's a reason why he stayed with those women.
	Idealism.
	Thinking that it would work, but it normally never does.
	It took us about two and a half, almost three months before we even slept together.
	Is he older?
	He is.
	How much older?
	He's 40s.
	40s.
	Like I said, I don't want to give away way too much.
	No, he was very, very respectful.
	We were together day and night every single day.
	We had so much fun.
	We enjoyed each other's company.
	We got to know each other through and through with everything.
	He actually came with me on three, four trips that I went on for.
	And you guys never hooked up?
	We never hooked up.
	He got to know me like through and through to my soul and now we've moved in together and I couldn't imagine almost a better partner in life.
	Alright, well that talk is still gonna come though.
	We split the bills.
	Happily.
	So I think that's the key, right?
	Because I think you started off basically trying to disagree with what I was saying, right?
	Because you have a different perspective.
	And the reason I think you have a different perspective is because you have different expectations.
	I would never be with a man where we were splitting bills because I'm already paying my own bills.
	So for me, I want a guy who...
	Is superior to me.
	I don't know if that's the case with you.
	That's why you're going to be single for the rest of your life.
	I don't think that's the case.
	I'm confused.
	It's the same thing.
	No, but you're saying she wants someone superior to her.
	Yeah, I know.
	On this show, we do the delusion calculator all the time.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Okay, now I get it.
	And I think I even asked you this on the very first show that we did.
	It's the same thing he said to CJ last time.
	CJ as well, right?
	Women are making money, especially in OnlyFans and in the sex industry.
	Did you put her through the calculator?
	I do.
	Not her, but we do it all the time on this show.
	And so when we do it about the calculator...
	Let's get the link.
	Women tend to want a guy that is making more money than them, is superior to them physically.
	He was just asking all the questions.
	Six feet tall, six-pack abs, six-figure income, blah, blah, blah.
	The problem is that women are becoming the men that they want to marry in the first place.
	So, you're like, I want a guy who's superior to me.
	Okay, well, how much money do you make?
	I make six figures.
	He's got to make at least six figures and then half again as much as I made, right?
	Or he's got to be, he has to be somewhat, he's got to be somewhat, do you want me to call it up?
	No, no, no, yeah, we are going to pull up our calculator right now, but just to make things nice and easy, how tall, what's the bare minimum height for your guy that you want, your ideal guy that you want?
	That you would want to have kids with my marriage, too.
	I would ideally like at least 5'11".
	Okay.
	Income?
	Per year?
	Annual?
	Go ahead, just keep it $1,000.
	You said it's got to be more than yours, again, and probably buy an extra 20% or 50%.
	I have attracted millionaires before, dated millionaires before, so I would say that's probably, but you know what, let's, bare minimum, I would say at least $400,000.
	$400,000 a year, bare minimum, okay.
	Ooh, yeah.
	Okay, and then, does it matter what race he is?
	White, black, Hispanic?
	Okay, what do you want?
	Caucasian.
	Okay, white.
	And age.
	Age.
	Minimum age and max age.
	Listen, I know it's a small dating pool.
	I know it's a very small dating pool.
	I know, I know.
	We're just curious.
	I know I'm so delusional.
	I know.
	Minimum age and max.
	Minimum age, 36.
	Maximum age, 49, 50, 50, 50.
	Okay.
	Do you care about his education level?
	You're an Ivy League grad.
	No.
	You don't?
	No.
	Doesn't matter.
	Because there are a lot of self-made men who dropped out of college.
	You care who's obese?
	Obese is different than overweight.
	So I would like someone who's not overweight, but I would say overweight, you know, you can lose the weight.
	Can he be obese is the question.
	The answer is no, probably.
	And obviously he can't be married, right?
	No.
	We got our calculator?
	Tell me how delusional I am.
	How delusional do you think you are?
	What percentage of men do you think that is?
	I think it's the 1% of the 1%.
	I know it's a small, small dating pool, but I also believe and have worked on bringing value myself.
	It's the 2% of the 1%.
	Roll your eyes.
	Yeah, it's the 2% of the 1%.
	It is.022% of men.
	Wait, which calculator?
	Do you have the...
	I got the standards, bro?
	Yeah.
	We have a more accurate one.
	Okay.
	So the one we have actually goes off the U.S. Census Bureau and from the National Health Survey.
	So all men in the United States.
	So we can go ahead.
	You got the link?
	You did it.
	Send it to me.
	Just call it out.
	Actually, you know what?
	We could put it on our phone.
	We're going to plug in these numbers.
	This is based on ideals.
	I know it's like, want what you want, get what you get.
	Go back.
	You guys were discussing something.
	I want you guys to go ahead and finish your discourse.
	Go ahead.
	So, like I was just saying, I enjoy the fact that he is fun and lively and a little bit on the wild side because so am I. There's a reason why people call me spicy.
	And he doesn't want to control that in me.
	He says, you know, as long as you're okay, you're respectful in life, you do what you need to do, I love you just the way that you are.
	And that's really hard to find in a lot of people who don't want to change you.
	Are you guys monogamous?
	We are, actually.
	But I wouldn't be opposed to him if he wanted to step out later on in our relationship and the life and everything, like in 10-15 years.
	Because I understand that love...
	Can become very complicated.
	I'm texting him now and telling him that.
	I'm letting him know right now.
	I'm sure he is.
	All your boyfriends watch my show.
	I have no doubt.
	What's the point?
	What do you guys disagree on?
	You disagree because you want a guy who's like...
	You want a provider.
	You want a traditional provider that's going to...
	I would never wait a man.
	More the money aspect of things.
	You said that you would not be okay with splitting the bills and you need a man who's a little bit more of a high earner.
	And honestly, I do make a really large sum of money for my age bracket and it's unrealistic.
	I get it.
	For most people.
	I get it.
	But here's the thing that I will say that maybe is going to insult you.
	I would not date a man who was ever involved in the sex industry.
	I am in the sex industry myself.
	Yeah, and I would also never become that type of woman myself.
	So that is the difference.
	And I know that might sound insulting, and it's not to insult or put you down.
	It's just when I say we're different, the types of men I'm going for are not going to look at, respectfully, someone who is a pole dancer as wifey material.
	And the men that I'm going for are definitely not going to have any sex industry work.
	That is like an, I just will not.
	It's just their ideals and their values are going to be quite some different.
	More wholesome, yeah.
	Got the stats?
	He's pulling it up right now.
	Describe an alpha female.
	An alpha female?
	I've heard other people say this and you're like, not alpha.
	I want to hear this.
	Alright, so let me explain something.
	When women say, I'm an alpha female, they're really not an alpha female.
	What they're doing is they're using a male context for what they think alpha is and what they think beta is.
	When I think of women who call themselves an alpha female, it's usually somebody like Sheryl Sandberg.
	She used to be the CEO of Facebook.
	One of these Fortune 500 bad bitches who's the top 10 richest females in the world.
	When women call themselves alpha females and they're running their business and they make their own damn money and everything else, they're basing their understanding of alpha on an alpha male.
	From the position of, I've got a good job, I've got my shit together, I've got my education together, I've got the money, I've got the bag, everything else, where's my man?
	Well, the problem is, you're a woman, and you've become the man that you wanted to marry, and so all the guys that you would possibly even consider are never going to measure up to the level of achievement that you've gotten as, by following an alpha male sort of, you know, tract in your life.
	It's the opposite.
	So from an evolutionary biological sense, an alpha female is a woman who is probably a sex worker.
	Someone who has big breasts, a nice hourglass figure.
	I'll take that.
	There's a woman who can outclass other women in sexual prowess, in the sexual marketplace, who has the thing, who maximizes femininity rather than masculinity, because the way that women see alpha, their examples are alpha males, and they want to be like that because, like I said before, we've conditioned four generations of women right now to think that the best thing to be is just like the men that they wanted to marry.
	And by the way, when I say women have become the men that they wanted to marry, I'm not the one that coined that term.
	It was Gloria Steinem in 1970 during the militant feminism years that keeps getting repeated today on 2023.
	So all of this rhetoric that got started during the late 60s and early 70s, we're still repeating it over and over and over again right now.
	So when we say alpha female, it's the bad bitch, but it's based on a male archetype, not on a female archetype.
	The female archetype would look like a hot swimsuit model.
	- So consider like a man who is alpha, let's just say an alpha male, he would be more desirable financially.
	So somebody you'd wanna hire, you know, the NFL quarterback or the linebacker, the man who's incredibly competent, right?
	The CEO who knows how to make a lot of money for his company or the man who's physically attractive or attractive to women and some other reason, we'd call him alpha, or he'd be a leader of men, like a military commander.
	Those three concepts then applied to a female would make her less attractive.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	So it's like his alphaness makes him more attractive and more competent.
	Her literally desiring those things in and of itself is a catch-22 situation because she becomes less attractive in that she wants to become alpha or that she does become alpha.
	I do not want a woman who is a leader of men that does not turn me on.
	So alpha female would be the female who can pull the most men.
	I don't know that the term doesn't fit.
	Does that make sense?
	It's like the biggest penis on a woman.
	How does that work?
	How does the biggest penis on a woman work?
	Alpha doesn't apply to women, you're saying.
	I don't get that.
	That makes sense.
	I see that.
	Okay.
	I think when I used to say that, I used to be like, oh, I'm an alpha female.
	I did used to use that all the time.
	But I have felt that way when I was dating women because I'm like, I used to take my girlfriend out.
	You took charge.
	I took her out for $10,000 shopping sprees.
	I feel like even the most alpha, alpha, whatever, female self-proclaimed by others will still defer to a man.
	Sugar mama to women, not men.
	That's what I'm saying.
	And this is interesting because she's talking about even in a homosexual relationship, there's still a dominant and a submissive.
	There's still a masculine and a feminine, even in same-sex couples.
	And then my first time dating a guy, or not dating a guy, but I really wanted a serious relationship with a guy, I still kind of treated him like a woman.
	And then when I wanted him to be a man, I realized how hard it was to be a man.
	I'm like, man, if I get pregnant and this house burns down, Who's gonna save me?
	Not him.
	I gotta put everybody, my dog and him on my back and I gotta save us all.
	So I started realizing I don't actually want to be with a woman.
	I want to be with a real man.
	But I just want to have...
	What is it called when you want women together?
	Polygyny.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so that's what I would like.
	I would give the functional equivalent.
	Like, a woman that says, you know, I'm an alpha female, that's like me, you know, going and getting manicures and wearing heels on Saturdays and saying, oh yeah, I'm a super pretty boy.
	Like, you'd be like, what the fuck?
	I'm a feminine man.
	I'm a feminine man.
	That doesn't make sense.
	Like, It's very unattractive.
	And I don't think women grasp how unattractive it is when she's loud, she's rambunctious.
	That's like me wearing heels and coming up to you and saying, oh, let's go on a date.
	You'd be like, what the fuck?
	Ew.
	That's how men feel when women act.
	Apply the alpha term to female.
	Not to sound racist, but there's a reason why African-American women score low on dating apps in general as far as approval ratings.
	And the reason why is because they have a bad stigma, and I can say this is a black guy, They have a bad stigma for being masculine, unfortunately.
	And masculinity is not something that men in general find attractive.
	So my mom is black and I only grew up with my mom and my two older brothers.
	But like I told you before, my mom only taught me how to be an independent, strong woman because she struggled and she doesn't want me to struggle.
	So she said, don't rely on a man.
	Go get what you gotta get.
	And so I never understood, oh hey, this clock is ticking.
	Hey, you wanna actually have kids.
	Or hey, this is the family dynamic you want.
	I'm thinking, I don't wanna be left behind.
	I don't wanna be broke like my mom.
	I don't wanna be struggling.
	So I need to get my own, get my own, be a bad bitch, be this, be that.
	And then my mom's cheering me on like, yeah, go to college, yeah, F these guys.
	And then as soon as I get a boyfriend, let's say the boyfriend does something stupid.
	Let's say he didn't take out the trash.
	This is why I tell you, you don't need a man.
	And that's a very, you know, so many women are indoctrinated by that, especially in the black community where there's no fathers, so you have women basically acting like men and like women, and they tell them, and they say, fuck men, niggas, and shit, blah, blah, blah.
	We know what it is, right?
	So it's just...
	We teach women fear, that's why.
	We teach women, like I said, the last four generations, we've taught women to distrust men, period.
	They're either Homer Simpson, they're like, you know, doofy dad that mom has to save them from themselves, right?
	And then you've got the guy who's Then there's the guy who's the borderline abusive guy.
	He's gonna send you to the women's shelter kind of thing.
	We can't trust that guy either.
	And then there's the new millennial slash Zoomer guy who is incompetent.
	He can't drive a stick shift, doesn't know how to tie a tie.
	I'm finding a lot of feminine men these days.
	A lot of very men that allow so many things to affect them.
	I dated somebody that I really liked, and I thought he was a very masculine man, and then something happened at his job.
	He had just had a scolding, a talk to, a write-up, and he was about to walk out of his job and cuss everybody out and break down and cry on the phone.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And it was like the weirdest thing.
	He was probably raised by a woman.
	And that's the thing is that unfortunately we tell men to get in touch with their feminine side.
	It's okay to be emotional, blah, blah, blah.
	And the reality is there's no place for emotional men.
	There really isn't.
	And women aren't attracted to it.
	Society doesn't want it.
	Emotional men end up shooting schools and doing really stupid things.
	If you look at prison, it's filled with emotional men.
	Emotional men are the ones that hate women.
	Emotional men are the guys that act on emotion, right?
	They're erratic.
	They behave on how they feel at the moment.
	Because women cannot trust men for their long-term security, they then have to...
	Like your mom, you have to do it yourself.
	You can't trust men because you got to get the bag and make sure you have this insurance policy so when he fucks up, you're going to be okay.
	And then what that does is that...
	It turns you into the man that you wanted to marry because now you have to take over the conventionally masculine responsibility of provisioning, protection, and parental investment.
	But that's such a struggle.
	Why wouldn't you just raise your kids and allow your husband to be their dad?
	They don't have a husband though.
	That's the problem.
	Either they leave or they push them away or something.
	You have a 56% divorce rate.
	Or they never get there.
	Okay, what's the stat?
	Did you get the stats?
	Oh, shit.
	We have it.
	What is it?
	Oh, shit.
	She scored a.0208%.
	So, yeah.
	Perfect.
	Well, I'll invite all of you to my wedding one day.
	She said less money than I thought.
	$400,000 puts the guy in the top 1%-ish?
	Like, top 5%.
	Top 1% I think is $600,000.
	Wait, what's the average income?
	$39,000.
	I thought it was like 40.
	Did you say 39?
	Household income in America.
	No, it's not household, just a single man.
	The reason why is you always have to average in Little Rock, Arkansas and Tulsa, Oklahoma.
	When you do that, it comes out to about 39.
	It's not 39 in Los Angeles.
	Yeah, so that's why it makes it different.
	Again, going back to what you said, so like 400,000, that used to be the top 1%, like 454,000.
	Now it's like maybe that's the top 8% or whatever.
	Being 5'11", I think, puts in the top 17% of men as far as how tall they are.
	And so these things, they just become, they compound because it's not 17%.
	It's the top 1% of the 17%.
	Do you guys understand?
	That's how you get two tenths And here's the scary part.
	We haven't even accounted for him being good-looking, being charming, being clean.
	I know a lot of you girls said hygiene, same religion.
	By the way, making $400,000 a year, a software engineer, also autistic, possibly.
	That's the other thing that you have to deal with.
	And so those things kind of disqualify men, and it just gets more and more ridiculous.
	Whereas if she sleeps with one of the guys who's in that category...
	And the ones who are normal already have 12 girlfriends.
	Yes, and that's exactly where I was going with it.
	Because everybody's changing the top one.
	What I will say though is, even though to the people watching and listening right now, that seems like a very small, and it is a very small percentage of the total population, in the zip code that I live in, I have a lot more access to that percentage of people, and I actually do go on dates with men who make well over 400 grand a year.
	Now, there are things, and then you might wonder, well, why haven't you decided to settle down with one of them?
	Because they cheat.
	You also live in the zip code where the people cheat more than anywhere else in the United States.
	I mean, she's kind of allowed for that a little bit, though.
	That's why I appreciated when she said that.
	Because it's so unrealistic to think anybody who lives anywhere near Mulholl in Bel Air or anywhere near the Hollywood Hills is just not being totally inundated by men who have options to cheat.
	I used to go to the Playboy Mansion all the time, and I'd go there, and these men, it was obvious that that was going on, and the woman accepted it.
	I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
	I'm saying in certain options, women cheat because I believe women cheat.
	The studies have shown this.
	Dr.
	Buss has done some in the GSS survey.
	Women cheat because of previous sexual partners.
	Men cheat because of options.
	And the more options they have to exercise, if you end up marrying a drummer from a huge band, he may have had more sexual options beforehand.
	He's going to have tons of sexual options during the marriage, and that's why he's going to cheat.
	Women don't have to want to have sex.
	When women want sex, sex manifests.
	It just shows up.
	Ladies, if you wanted to have sex tonight, how hard would it be for you?
	Ladies, would you be able to have sex tonight?
	Natty, would it be able to happen?
	Yeah?
	Okay, that's the thing.
	A lot of men can't cheat.
	A lot of men can't cheat.
	Under the age of 30, you have 26% of men that are virgins.
	Under the age of 30, you have 63% of men not in a relationship.
	Wait, hold up.
	Did you say 26%?
	Men with zero sexual partners in the last year.
	That's crazy.
	Yes.
	34% of men under the age of 30 with no sexual partners in the last year.
	I wonder why these bros are so thirsty.
	That's why there's so many mental health issues.
	Let me see if I can tie this up.
	I'm not trying to insult you.
	I'm going to see if I can soften the blow a little bit.
	How do you go up from you'll be single forever?
	Here's what I'm saying.
	I, honest to God, have sympathy for you because I deal with enough women who are in that exact same position right now.
	I can't find a guy who is better than me, makes all this.
	And you just, like earlier on, you gave the solution to this just a minute ago, which is you're going to have to lower your standards.
	Expectations.
	Or your expectations, or you're going to have to do what?
	Self-improve.
	Self-improve.
	How much self-improvement do you have left to do to get that guy that's at the status that we just did the stats for?
	So do you think that lowering your standards is the only option that's left for you?
	Well, I'll say this.
	For myself personally, because it's a personal question, I moved to Los Angeles in February.
	I was in Miami before.
	I was very focused on filming the TV show, getting a visa because I'm Canadian, getting my degree because that was important to me because then I knew I could sit at a table like this and say that and I could hold my own a little bit more one day.
	For me, those things were important.
	I've only really been aggressively dating for a few months now.
	And I feel that within a year, I will be able to find that.
	And self-improvement, I could probably lose five more pounds, five to ten more pounds.
	Don't do it.
	Well, listen, the thinner the girl, the bigger the rock.
	Oh, my God.
	Bad advice.
	He wants at least something.
	He didn't want to break you.
	I'm not trying to promote eating disorder.
	I'm talking about myself.
	She's tiny.
	I'm still aware.
	Going back to what he says before, there's a male over-perception bias.
	Women tend to like Brad Pitt in Fight Club, but men think that men should look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, and women think that other men like Twiggy when actually they like girls with a little bit more athleticism or curves, like what Fresh is trying to say.
	I was going to say, build a bigger booty, don't lose weight.
	Well, I work out for two hours every day already, so I'm doing squats and lifting weights.
	I think for me right now, what I can do to get that kind of guy we talked about is go on as many dates as I possibly can to get to know as many men in that caliber as I can.
	Spam approaches.
	I don't like to waste people's time, so I'm not gonna give a man a chance if he asks me on a nice date if I don't think off a dating profile that he's my guy.
	Out of respect to him, respect to myself, and respect to the person I'm meant to be with.
	But I will go on entertain as many possible men as I can in early stages of dating.
	To see if I have a connection with any of them.
	That's what I can do.
	I also can continue to maintain my appearance.
	And I know for men, maybe you guys don't realize how much money and time goes into looking a certain way for us women.
	But it's a lot.
	It's a lot more than a first date.
	Nellie, you have to stay in Los Angeles too?
	Well, right now I'm trying to pitch new TV shows.
	So I'm very focused on selling a new show.
	I would tell you, like, move to Texas.
	Like, you probably have a better job.
	I mean, you're living in, like, the cheating capital of the fucking planet.
	Yeah, so I'm trying out Los Angeles.
	I'm open to moving back to Miami one day.
	I really like Miami.
	You know what's awesome about Los Angeles?
	Nothing.
	Like, absolutely nothing.
	It's just a fucking terrible place.
	This place exists.
	Well, there are mountains.
	There's the ocean.
	Yeah, we have mountains.
	We have a beach.
	You have no ocean in Nevada.
	We have a beach.
	We have tons of beaches.
	You have a lake?
	Hey, what was that?
	Wait, hold on.
	I can't hear you over that no state income tax.
	I can't hear what you're saying.
	I'm still a Florida resident.
	Okay, there you go.
	We gotta wrap.
	We're almost at a time.
	Someone had a question, and then we'll read our chats and close out.
	Someone had something?
	Yeah, I was just going to ask you what your last TV show was about and what the new one is that you're pitching.
	So my last show was about matchmaking.
	It was like selling Sunset, but instead of real estate, it was for matchmakers.
	So I was one of the lead matchmakers on it.
	And we would set people up and follow them on their dating experience and there'd be some office drama.
	And the shows that I'm pitching are all about dating coaches and matchmaking.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Alright, so we'll read some of these chats real quick here.
	And guys, we're reading 50 and up, and then we'll close this out because, you know, we're in someone else's house, so we can't stay here too, too long, like we normally do.
	So, Cat and Cow says, where is St.
	Decent?
	Oh yeah, where's St.
	Decent?
	Yeah, he's in Vegas.
	We're going to make something happen, but we just couldn't line it up.
	We couldn't get the studio.
	We didn't even know you were coming until the day of the war, man.
	Hey, listen, listen.
	If you want to get him and Zerka here at the same time, I just talked to Zerka a couple days ago.
	Why don't we do that?
	If they want to debate, is Zerka not...
	Then I get long.
	Let's put the cross with each other.
	I'll bring ten girls in here.
	Let's do a debate in here.
	I'll do it.
	And then Rollo will be security with his big fucking arms.
	Rollo will be security for it.
	I'm the only one who can put him in a headlock, that's why.
	Zerka and take the center.
	Let's do it.
	My girlfriend loves Zerka.
	Okay, Fresh's Dog says, ratings from Fresh's Dog.
	Fresh's Dog.
	Ran through Abuela.
	He gave her a two.
	Fake Mo for...
	Fake Mo.
	Clownface 2, which is the girl on the left, the engineer.
	I don't know who these names are.
	Wait, are these like ratings right now?
	They're making up names.
	It's like a dick rating.
	Clownface 2.
	Who's who though?
	No, no, no, he's referring to her.
	She's 3.
	So you call her clownface.
	Throter.
	Goat.
	Because she's a porn star.
	Bougiehole.
	3.
	FNF Dodger.
	3.
	Oh, that's the Spanish code I was there.
	Area 51 Ilion.
	3.
	She deserves way more than that.
	Mini-Me.
	5.
	and constipated face one, closet a lesbian three?
	Oh, he's calling her closet a lesbian.
	Oh, there you go.
	All right.
	Hey, guys.
	His ex-girlfriend.
	That's adorable.
	Thank you.
	Zuma says, it seems South Americans expect the man to lead, which is a good thing, but this also comes with expectations of the man going full blue pill into marriage.
	Signing his life away and making her the focus of his life, are Latinos more blue pills?
	Are Latinas more blue pill?
	Latinas?
	Latinas?
	I think it means Latinos.
	A lot of them are blue pills, bro.
	But being blue-pilled is a whole worldwide thing, bro.
	Okay.
	Alright, what else do we got?
	This is our boy Big Mo.
	He says, Hey, Rolo.
	Hi, Mike.
	Hi, Myron.
	Hi, Fresh.
	With all these girls giving dog shit advice, I don't think they even deserve a small local radio station as a first date.
	Rolo, you know why I eat spinach and kale.
	I do.
	Kale?
	Tell these bitches to go to hell.
	Sorry, I don't have it up right now.
	Abe says, I know that girl, Nat, from the 209.
	Shout out to Fresh and Fit.
	Less pimping, more pimping.
	And that's it for Chats.
	We have Rumble real quick and then we're done.
	So for Rumble, we have...
	And then ladies, get your last questions and or thoughts for the show ready and then we'll close it out.
	Or disagreements you might have had.
	Metkey says, these women wouldn't tell their son shit.
	From my experience, what the fuck?
	Mothers eventually choose the sisterhood over their own sons.
	They don't even know what they're doing.
	They can't help it.
	Goddamn.
	Olu says, matchmaker and stripper have way more in common than they think.
	Laugh my ass off.
	All the difference is, why are the meat wallets blown out?
	And isn't matchmaking kind of part of the sex industry?
	I don't know.
	No, that's a madame.
	I'm not a madame.
	These two spend $50 a second.
	He said, my meat wallet sounds actually...
	I'm naming my next band meat wallet.
	I know, I like that.
	And last one here says, Hector says, chick with the black flannel, making all kinds of faces.
	Wonder what questions she has for the men.
	Black flannel?
	We'll come back to that.
	You've been called out.
	I got a face, man, what?
	All right.
	Last thoughts on the show?
	Last thoughts, questions, disagreements, last points, whatever.
	One thing, I had a question for you.
	We'll start here and then work our way.
	Not a question.
	Just more of a comment.
	Anyone who wants to get a guy a gift, think about something that they use on the daily basis.
	Something that when he uses it, he's going to think of you every time.
	I know that my boyfriend smokes every day, so I went out and bought him a really nice Lighter.
	Patch.
	Oh, sorry.
	I wished, but it's okay.
	So I went out and bought him a really nice lighter.
	Nothing too expensive.
	It was like $50 market.
	Aren't you big on health though?
	Huh?
	Aren't you big on health?
	We smoke weed.
	We smoke a lot of weed.
	That's healthy.
	Interesting.
	I don't know if it's healthy, but that's a whole other combination.
	I know that he smokes every day, so every day when he lights his blunts or his joints, whatever it is that he chooses to smoke, he's going to think about me.
	And he found it really, really appreciative, and it was a very thoughtful gift.
	Like you said, most men don't even receive gifts from women, ever.
	That's actually a very good thing, because you looked at his lifestyle and saw what he needs as a man and got it for him.
	That's really good.
	Alright, what about you?
	So my question is, would you, so, how do I say this?
	Growing old with a woman.
	I'm not saying like monogamous or whatever.
	I'm just saying, would you grow old with a woman or would you only keep one around and grow old with her if you met her young and she helped you build and get where you're at?
	Grow old with a few of them.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I don't want to have just one.
	Well, I mean, the other few that were like, you're switching out, right?
	No, no, no.
	I would have them...
	I've done it before where I'll see them all together and they become friends and shit.
	Yeah.
	Some of them are friends to this day.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Yeah.
	So...
	I have no questions, but I think this was an awesome panel.
	For the most part.
	And we're glad that some of the information stuck and made you a better girl and you got a guy now.
	When are you going to play in the LFL? Oh my god.
	Look, Vegas, we need a new left tackle, you know what I'm saying?
	You know, actually, I was going to do it back in the day before they stopped, and one of my girlfriends, Sydney, was with the, I think, I can't remember where she played, and then they ended up stopping, so I was like, oh, whatever.
	But I think I'm old now.
	I'm gonna hurt myself.
	You said you had something?
	Oh yeah, I did have a question because we were talking about marriage earlier and how you felt there was very little incentive for men to get married.
	Yeah.
	And as we moved on from that conversation, it just came to my mind that I think marriage is still a societal status for a lot of people.
	If you look at any of the, you know, major CEOs or really successful men, having a wife seems to play into their societal favor.
	Would you agree with that, that there is societal status that comes with marriage for men?
	Um, women acquire all the status for marriage because they take the last name, typically.
	Well, I look at someone like George Clooney.
	When he got married, for some reason it seemed he got a lot more respect in the industry than someone like Leonardo DiCaprio who gets continuously trolled for being...
	Leonardo DiCaprio actually gets a lot of respect.
	And George Clooney's twice divorced.
	I'm not saying she doesn't...
	Well, what about for men in office?
	Like, isn't it a requirement to have a wife if you're President of the United States or something like that?
	No.
	It's not a requirement, but they've all, except one, one of them had a wife die in office and then married a woman that he knew when she was born.
	It's an image thing for the presidency, but I would say, in general, men don't acquire status from marrying.
	It's women that acquire status.
	I think that used to be the way it is.
	Certainly not now.
	Well, like nowadays, like, nah.
	But yeah, maybe before.
	That's the 20th century.
	Yeah, but I would argue it's women by far that gain the majority of the status benefits.
	Because if you think about it, women take the man's last name.
	Women marry for status, not men.
	I hear that.
	I hear that.
	I agree with it.
	But I do think there are certain industries where it still perhaps is...
	Yeah, I mean, in some situations, like, you know, if you want to be a partner at a law firm or you're a CEO, whatever, is it more...
	Industrialist.
	You know, oh yes, I have a wife at home, yes.
	But the reality is this, who's going to actually work harder and rise up the ranks?
	I'll tell you this, it's the fucking single guys.
	That's why gay dudes are dominating.
	Because they don't, yeah, it's true.
	If you look at high levels of government, you look at high levels of corporate America, etc.
	If you look at all the major cities that are expensive to live in, who dominates it?
	It's gay dudes.
	And I make the argument all the time.
	They don't deal with women, so they have more time.
	A lot of times they behave like they're single if they do have a boyfriend.
	So it's changing, man.
	It's changing, unfortunately.
	As the 27-year-old married guy on the panel here...
	As far as status is concerned, I don't think it's necessarily a status make or breaker anymore.
	It probably used to be, like I said, I think that's a 20th century way of thinking.
	However, I'm going to pull a Kiyosaki on you here.
	If you have a wife that is an asset, that's great.
	If you have a wife that is a liability, that's not so good.
	Yeah.
	I forget the guy's name.
	He works for Valuetainment.
	Gay black guy.
	After we did our podcast over at PBD, I was talking with him, and I was like, man, it'd be interesting if they did a study to see who has a higher net worth, heterosexual men or gay men.
	He was like, no, they did.
	Yeah, gay men have a higher net worth.
	And I was like, what the fuck?
	As a percentage of the population, obviously.
	Yeah, I definitely agree.
	Because they generally don't have kids.
	But that's crazy, though, because...
	That tells you right then and there that, like, if you take a guy that's, like, married versus a dude that's gay who's going to make more money, and that tells you that, like, just how much of a financial drain it is for men to deal with them in general.
	Because most guys, let's be honest, they don't marry women that are assets.
	They marry women that are liabilities.
	I heard something, and it's historical, but I don't know if it was true, but I heard it somewhere.
	Like, the Spartans or the...
	There was, like, a group of warriors that were, like...
	They were pretty small numbers, but they could defeat numbers of other men who were way larger than them.
	They were all gay in partnerships.
	No, they actually had sex with each other.
	I don't know that that's accurate.
	You're talking about the battle of Thermopylae in 483.
	I heard something somewhere.
	They were legendary for being indestructible, though.
	Yes, but I don't know that it was because they were having homosexual sex with each other.
	Well, no, but like, I mean, they were, I don't know.
	I think that's a fantasy that a lot of people would like to play out, but I think they were just bad motherfuckers.
	I think King of Leonidas was just a bad motherfucker.
	I think that's pretty much what happened there.
	That's the start of a plot, bro.
	Well, thank you for having me on.
	It's been fun.
	I don't have anything to say.
	I think this was a pretty healthy debate.
	Thank you for coming.
	Thanks for being a good sport.
	Yes, I think I learned a handful of things today, so thanks for having me.
	What was the biggest thing you learned?
	How I need to be more of an asset and less of a liability.
	Carly, that's a big step for you.
	Carly, you got 10% of Carly, bro.
	Last time it was like, had a threesome, cheated on my boyfriend, sucked a guy's dick before I came out here.
	That was Carly last week.
	I've got a pet python.
	Bro, this is 10% of Carly right now.
	Alright, what about you?
	Last thoughts or disagreements or points or anything?
	You guys have been talking about how women have become a certain way, but we haven't talked so much about The women that are raised to be the way that men want them, those women are always the most abused.
	Those are like...
	Not necessarily, but what do you mean by that?
	Are you saying women raised to be like the traditional wife or taken advantage of?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Or they're more vulnerable to domestic violence and that type of thing?
	Yes.
	I grew up in a Hispanic household where you're raised to serve a man.
	And you're always taught to do everything for these men.
	You grow up, you do that, and you realize that a lot of these men don't care about you.
	So why?
	To be fair, if you're choosing to serve the wrong man, whose fault is that?
	But what if you don't know any better because that's how you're kind of raised.
	You're raised to be good to someone.
	No matter what.
	Why would you serve a bad person?
	Yeah, because I grew up in a situation where the women were like property.
	They didn't have a choice in their life.
	I got just a quick question.
	No, they didn't have a choice in anything.
	Let's just say for sake of argument that that's correct.
	Do you think that it's the submissiveness that attracts the abusive guy in the first place?
	Or do you meet a great guy and because of that submissive nature that guy then turns into this raging tyrannical asshole?
	I feel like it was the second one.
	Because they feel like they can do anything to you.
	I don't think submissive women turn you into a woman-beater.
	I don't think that makes sense.
	What I think might make a little bit more sense is that your radar for a good man may have never been tuned.
	You're a target for someone who thinks to be an easy prey.
	I just know too many women who are like, I dated a narcissist and I ask them about their previous three boyfriends and they all turned out to be narcissists.
	At some point, we're starting to figure out, no, you're attracted to a certain type and then you're blaming the other person.
	I'm not saying that's the case in your situation.
	Sometimes you're young and you just don't know better.
	But it's like, I just found in several cases, maybe she found a guy who was a woman beater, but I have never, I cannot imagine an idea of a man who wasn't beating women who just, because his wife was submissive, all of a sudden became violent.
	That doesn't seem to make sense.
	Another thing too is that, see, this is the thing.
	Women love to tell themselves little white lies to make themselves feel better for not being a traditional woman.
	And one of them is saying that if I be traditional, I'm going to get an abusive guy that's going to steamroll me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	The reality is that even if this guy is abusive, like you say, and is terrible, whatever, well, if he's being a traditional man and getting this submissive woman, well, that means he's probably paying the bills, he's probably taking care of you, probably keeping a household over your head.
	I was just about to make that point.
	I would argue he definitely cares about you.
	It's just that women tend to not look at their own faults or what they do wrong as to why a guy might correct them or might not like their behavior.
	Do you think we're taking their masculinity wrong?
	Where we're thinking that this is a masculine behavior, but it's really abusive?
	Because I know some girls who think they're picked on if their boyfriend expects cooking, cleaning, basic things.
	And they also expect him to provide everything for her.
	But she shouldn't be required to do those things.
	And to me, she's not picked on.
	He's providing everything for you.
	So are you going to do your part?
	Because a lot of women, they look at it now.
	We live in such a clown world now where women will sit there and say, a guy's abusive if he tells me I shouldn't have an Instagram or I shouldn't be going to the club.
	Like restricting...
	Poor female choices or poor female behavior that might lead to cheating is considered abusive in 2023.
	Like, men can't have boundaries and or rules and standards on their women anymore.
	And I get what you're saying.
	Hispanic homes, especially, they are raised to, like, serve, you know, obviously, the father in the household.
	So, undoubtedly, you are correct.
	However...
	We're in 2023 right now.
	You have choices to make.
	If he's a bad person, stop.
	No, I understand that, but that's what I'm saying.
	That is why women are becoming the way that they are now.
	Well, I think abusive should be categorized as something that he does that brings harm to you in some way.
	And him telling you to not...
	Go out and be a hoe is not bringing harm to you.
	I don't think she's a hoe.
	There's actual, physical abuse.
	It's not abuse that's made women the way that they are.
	It's feminism.
	Feminism told you guys to go out there and chase a career, make money, be successful, be educated.
	You can do everything Amanda can do.
	I'm not a feminist at all.
	I have had very serious domestic violence.
	That's fantastic.
	That's your situation, but what I'm saying that in general is that that's not the norm.
	That's not good.
	That's not the norm.
	Your example doesn't necessarily reflect why women behave the way they do.
	Women aren't necessarily, like as you're trying to say, oh, women left men because men are abusive.
	No, women left men because feminism has made it to a point where women can get everything that they had with men by themselves.
	So why is a woman gonna sit there and get with a guy that's less attractive, isn't charming, isn't charismatic, isn't like a chad if she can make her own money?
	She's not gonna.
	So now women only want men versus needing them.
	It used to be women needed men so they would go ahead and get with a guy that was a good provider, he was a good man, he went to church, he was boring as fuck!
	But he was a good man.
	Nowadays, as women make their own money, I don't need a regular fucking guy anymore.
	I want a guy that's 6'3 that makes 400k plus a year.
	Women hate beta males so much that they will go to 8 years of college, 10 years of college, take out God knows how many college loans to go and do this, so they can qualify for a 40 to 60 hour a week job that is just soul destroying job because they don't want to marry the beta male guy that they don't trust or they don't like because they they're untrustworthy they're incompetent they're big doofy you know Homer Simpsons or whatever they so what are they going to do they're
	going to turn themselves into the men that they wanted to marry and then expect the guy who's higher above them because they're alpha alpha females now they want the guy who's the alpha male to Without alpha the female, and so you've got this vicious cycle that keeps going on because women simply can't trust men anymore.
	They don't see them as anything viable for their long-term security as they did in the 60s, in the 50s, in the 60s, right?
	And they're not coming back.
	It's a result of the legacy of the sexual revolution right now, as you were saying before.
	It's feminism, man.
	It's not abusive men, it's feminism.
	And I can sympathize with Natty because what happens is like, well, what if I get with a guy who's, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do and I'm worried that the guy's gonna turn into an asshole and my mom is saying, get your bag, girl, because if you do, he's gonna turn into an asshole and he's gonna, you'll be left with the kids and won't know what the fuck to do with yourself.
	Natty, 80% of men on dating apps are deemed unattractive.
	That's not because of abuse.
	80%.
	The top 10% of men get 63% of the rights wipes.
	The top 20% of men get 83% of the rights wipes.
	That's not because of abuse.
	That's because women, because they're allowed to witness and see all these other options that they have, and they're having their DMs flooded with dick pics and offers from men for sex and all this kind of stuff and all this attention they're getting, what they're doing is they've become delusional as to what attractive men are, And so if 80% of men, if only 20% of men are seen as attractive, then that means eights or fives to women.
	I know so many.
	That means nines or sevens.
	And the only ten is like Hemsworth and Drake.
	Like that's it.
	How common is it that you have like a guy who's a beta male and he's fixated on one nice woman who's very submissive and she seems like she'd be ideal, but he's just this kind of like, he's a simp and he doesn't know what to do.
	But she's with, why does she keep going to her asshole boyfriend?
	Why does she, like he doesn't appreciate her like I would appreciate her.
	Brought the bartender, Alex the accountant.
	I would never do that to you.
	I would respect you and love you and have children with you and I'd be a great father and I'm just so qualified for that.
	But yet she keeps going back to the asshole.
	Also, the other thing too, I'm just going to be honest, women are retards when it comes to picking their own partners.
	Women positively reinforce abusive behavior because they pick Abusive men.
	They pick the assholes.
	They pick the jerks.
	They pick the men that talk to them like shit.
	They pick the men that don't necessarily give them positive attention.
	Like women are very bad at make selecting their own partner.
	That's why for the longest time, men used to get involved.
	The father would pick the boyfriend or the husband because he knows what's best for her, not what's attractive to her.
	The perfect example of that is Khloe Kardashian, right?
	And I think what she represents is what a lot of women have, which is their picker is off.
	They don't know how to pick quality men.
	And then you have women who say, there are no good guys.
	There are good guys.
	They're all around, but you're not giving them attention.
	They're boring.
	They're not attractive enough.
	They're not tall enough.
	I think I now know the solution to all these problems.
	Pre-arranged marriages.
	That didn't work for my group.
	No, I think what Natty was asking is, is being submissive and traditional opening yourself up to bigger possibility of being a victim of Domestic violence or something like that.
	Is that what you were asking?
	Hey, Natty, going on the yacht with the guy who has all the money, you're also opening yourself up to domestic abuse.
	That's what I was about to say.
	My point is, if 80% of men are deemed unattractive, that's not because of abuse.
	That's the point.
	Women have a...
	I'm saying the word delusional, but I think it is a delusional belief when she had her preferences, and it was 0.02% of men.
	I just want to touch on this.
	I understand that this is a little bit more prevalent maybe in a Hispanic household and you open yourself up to being submissive, right?
	And some men might take advantage of that.
	But I also believe that maybe asking everyone on this particular show right now might not be the exact solution that you're looking for.
	And this is not meant in any offensive way and no disrespect, but a really good therapist could really help you dig down and maybe find why.
	If this is a reoccurring pattern for you, right?
	No, I was trying to actually explain what I meant right now.
	I meant like maybe that's why there's so many women who kind of Avoid being the submissive.
	They've been through that.
	They've been a good woman to men before, and it gets to the point where it's like, okay, no, now my standards are up here.
	That didn't work for me.
	But again, you're choosing the wrong person to serve.
	Natty, we have a We have a 56% divorce rate in this country.
	First divorce, it's 52%.
	Second marriage, it's 68%.
	Third marriage, it's 73% divorce rate.
	Hold on.
	If 70 to 80% of those divorces are initiated by women, and physical abuse isn't even in the top five reasons while they're filing for divorce, and women find 80% of men to be unattractive, the answer is delusion.
	That is what's happening.
	It's not because of abuse.
	It's a minority.
	I know.
	I was trying to give a reason for the hoflation.
	Yes, but that is essentially what it is.
	The numbers are inescapable.
	You're correct.
	It's what he's saying before.
	It's this belief that you can, again, short-term thinking versus long-term thinking.
	Short-term thinking, I'm going to have fun when I'm 23.
	I'm going to fuck Brock the bartender.
	I'm going to fuck Brock the quarterback.
	Yeah, Brock the quarterback.
	I'm going to have fun and I'm not going to consider what happens down the line to me because it's short-term thinking versus long-term thinking.
	When you listen to feminism, feminism is this drug that makes you think of short-term thinking.
	It's like, yes, I'm just going to have fun now and no one will care later on because body count doesn't matter.
	I was going to bring up some stats that show body count does.
	See, but I'm saying I was raised the opposite thinking the opposite way.
	For sure.
	So, your entire life you are trying to be this virtuous...
	I was raised that way, too.
	That's the right way to think, though.
	Yeah, but you being virtuous isn't what causes you to get into those situations.
	But I feel like it's done me more favors than...
	What I'm saying is the shitty dude with the Lambo is just as likely to hit you.
	That's the point I'm making.
	It's like this idea that is your...
	I feel like he's more likely to hit you.
	Yeah, but hold on.
	Your submissiveness is not causing men to become abusive.
	There's no stats.
	There's no data that I've ever seen to indicate to that.
	I don't submit to any men.
	Apparently.
	What I'm saying is if we were to look at a statistic, was this person who abused a woman, was he abused when he was a child?
	I bet we'll find a high correlation, a much higher correlation than whether or not she was submissive.
	And let me also be blunt here.
	If you're not going to be willing to submit to a man, you're only going to date losers.
	Because only loser men are going to tolerate women that don't submit to them.
	Right.
	Well, that's why I'm saying it has to be, like, a good man for you.
	I 100% submit to my wife.
	He's rational when I'm psycho, and I need that.
	And I know that I need that.
	Yep.
	Do you understand what Myron's saying?
	If you wouldn't be willing to submit to him, by definition, he kind of is a loser.
	So the hypergamy algorithm, there must be some algorithm in human evolution by which men and women are able to sort the alphas from the betas.
	It must exist.
	We know it in men.
	We can see men picking women.
	Some women are more attractive than others.
	Women have to have a similar algorithm.
	Otherwise, the species would not have continued to procreate.
	That algorithm is going to say to yourself, why don't I submit to this man?
	There has to be something wrong.
	You cheat on him and he takes you back.
	There has to be this voice in your head that's saying, I am by definition dating a beta.
	Therefore, I should be moving on.
	And that's the reason why you'll vocally beg him to take you back.
	At the same time, having less respect for him for taking you back.
	If you're a man, the best way to get punished by a woman is to do exactly what she tells you.
	the best thing i ever did was when i had a disconnect or a not a fight i don't feel like i've ever fought with my boyfriend but like when we had disagreements or disconnect the best thing i did was go talk to his business partner for insight not my girlfriend's because the one time i confided in a close girlfriend we freaking broke up for like a week okay a week and then i went and talked to his partner and but i i go to his business partner who knows him more than anybody What'd he tell you?
	Shut up?
	No, but he tells me shit that I don't want to hear, but I need to hear.
	Like, that's hard for me to hear, but if I didn't hear it, I wouldn't know how to fix it.
	It's a hard pill to swallow, but...
	You have to be careful what you tell your girlfriends.
	Yes.
	Well, you can't confide in your girlfriends with your relationship problems.
	Isn't it like you have slutty girlfriends like them that you turn into a slut, too?
	You just...
	They're gonna say, like, hey, come be a slut with me.
	Good girlfriends are invaluable.
	I love my good girlfriends.
	They're there for me, and they do things for me that I... I mean, I can talk to them about things, but not my relationship problems.
	If it's a problem with me and my boyfriend, don't go.
	I can't go to my girlfriend.
	If you do, you gotta talk to a girl that's in a happy relationship.
	Cool.
	True, yeah.
	Yeah, there you go.
	So, cool, guys.
	Yo, guys, I enjoyed the show.
	It was great.
	We had a good panel for the most part.
	A couple of retards, but it's fine.
	But other than that, guys, we'll be back on Friday in Miami.
	Mr.
	Organic.
	Mr.
	Organic.
	A couples therapy show at 6 p.m.
	for a show.
	Mr.
	Organic and then girls after.
	Yeah.
	Mike, Rollo, where can people find you, man?
	Yeah, well, I should also announce that we will be in Miami as well on November 6th through the 11th.
	Yes.
	And we will have a divorce attorney, James Sexton, coming with us for that whole week.
	I've got to watch that.
	So we will have, we'll be doing at least three, maybe four shows with you guys.
	And we're going to be doing, well, we'll be on with Adam Sosnick as well on Thursday doing a big panel show.
	So we'll have Jim Sexton with us.
	And Mike will be there.
	I'll be here.
	And then I'm actually moving on.
	On the 23rd, I'm going to Kenya.
	He's going to Africa.
	You're moving?
	No, I'm not moving.
	He's moving.
	Roll over.
	Big announcement.
	He is moving his family to Kenya.
	He gave up on America.
	I'll be in Dubai on the 25th doing a talk in Dubai and then from there I go to Nairobi for 10 days and then I might go to Qatar after that.
	We'll see.
	But I will be in Kenya after that.
	And then our next show here will be the 16th.
	16th of November.
	November 16th, Axis Vegas once again.
	And you already know where to find me.
	You've been watching this.
	You got me.
	November 25th, we're collecting toys for homeless children in San Diego for the Teddy Ball.
	If you guys are interested in that, hit me up.
	On the November 30th, we're collecting toys for a homeless shelter in Los Angeles called Babes in Toyland.
	And then on the 17th of December, my buddy Dan Fleischman is doing the world's largest toy drive.
	So we're trying to raise money for homeless children.
	And what are we doing tomorrow night?
	Tomorrow night, we are...
	Oh, I'm hosting the $5,000 costume, sexy costume competition at Tower Night Club.
	And you're going to want to see what I wear.
	Yeah, he's coming in there.
	Sexy.
	My costume wasn't sexy at all.
	That's fine.
	You'll still do fine.
	And guys, all the girls' Instagrams are below, not the girls at LeftFuckThem, and we'll catch you guys on the next episode of Fresh and Fit on Friday.
	Peace.
	All right.
	Bye-bye.

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