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Oct. 12, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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Donoivan Sharpe & Black "Queen" Get in HEATED Argument!
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Thank you.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast.
After our edition, man, we're joined with a bunch of lovely ladies and Donovan Sharp and Troy.
Quick announcement so you guys know, rumble.com slash freshfitman.
You guys know exactly where to find us if we ever do get canceled.
And also check us out on castleclub.tv.
I think we already got a bunch of y'all waiting.
So, Chris, what's the number?
Give me the thing.
No, no, no, for the chats.
Oh yeah, 20 and up.
Alright, so guys, from this point forward, we're going to read 20 and up, but if you got something in before, we'll go ahead and read it for you, so don't worry.
That goes for Rumble Rants and for FNF Super Chat.
Again, FNFSuperChat.com, or you can Rumble Rant it in.
But yeah, Chris, you have something to say, right?
Yes, girls.
Aaron C. Parkson on IG. Make sure if you send me a DM to come on to our show, just give me some time, a day or two.
And other than that, let's have a great show.
We got a bunch of new girls and hopefully no one gets friend canceled.
Six to the exact.
Good job, Chris.
Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course.
Your body count.
And we're going to start on the couch.
Welcome.
Welcome back.
Hello.
Hi, my name is Hannah.
I am 24 years old.
Where are you from?
I'm from New York.
I saw health insurance for a living and I am in a relationship this time this time okay you have breeds right yeah okay I remember you now what's your highest education level completed High school.
You're from New York.
What part of New York are you from?
Brooklyn.
New York!
And then how long have you been together?
Four months.
Is it a guy or a girl?
It's a guy.
Let me ask one question here.
Is your boyfriend of the darker persuasion?
Yes, he is black.
And geez, how did I know that?
That's obvious, bro.
Come on.
What about you?
I'm Mulan Monet.
I'm 27 years old.
I'm sorry, it was Mulan?
Mulan.
Like the Disney character?
Mulan, yes.
The princess warrior.
Okay.
How old are you?
The queen.
I'm 27.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm from Houston, Texas.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
What do you do for it?
I'm in education.
Okay.
Are you a teacher or...?
We ain't gonna speak on that, but I'm in education.
We need to know more about that.
What kind of education are you in?
And I'm a dance teacher.
I'm a dance choir.
What kind of dance?
What kind of dance?
Ballet, jazz, hip-hop.
Is there a pole involved?
For the little pole, I can do a little bit of that.
There it is.
What's your highest education level completed?
I got my Bachelor's.
Stripping?
No.
Bachelor's of Science in Interdisciplinary Studies.
Oh shit!
And then, where'd you get it from?
University of Houston downtown, but I started at Preview at HBCU. And then relationship status?
I'm single.
Alright.
Cool.
You don't look too happy about that.
No, no, no.
She said, I'm single.
I'm single, meaning like, you know, I have friends, but I'm single.
Oh!
She'll be fine.
She has friends.
There's a dude she's smashing.
Yeah, yeah.
She's good.
What about you?
What's your name?
Daniella Morris.
How old are you?
I'm young.
I'll just say that.
I'm 20.
Where are you from?
I'm from New York, but now I'm here in Miami.
It has to be upstate.
No.
That's disrespectful.
Brooklyn, Manhattan, and Queens.
I'm from Manhattan.
We have to get her a mat.
Thank you.
I'm an esthetician as well.
I don't know what that is.
It's Botox and stuff, yeah?
Oh, shit.
Skincare.
Yeah, skincare, beauty treatments.
So what borough did you go to high school in?
Don't see Kings.
Manhattan.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
I see your rich girl.
That took too long.
She had to think about that.
Yeah, that took too long.
I traveled a lot, so I had to think about which one.
Did you travel to Dubai?
To Dubai?
No, I haven't been there.
Good answer.
Anyone in the chat?
So you said your profession is you're an esthetician.
Are you anything else?
I'm actually the owner of Danny Stahl's Beauty Studios.
So you're an esthetician but you own a beauty studio.
Yeah, I'm a beauty specialist, so full specialist.
I do everything beauty, nails, skin, makeup, everything.
Brazilian butt lift?
No, that I don't do.
I'm trying to get a BBL. Highest education level completed?
High school, and then I furthered my education in beauty.
Okay, you have like your esthetician license, I'm guessing, or something like that?
Yeah, I have multiple licenses.
Alright, and then what's your relationship status?
I am single.
Alright, cool.
What about you?
My name is Nyla.
I just turned 23 yesterday.
Happy birthday!
Where are you from?
I'm from Massachusetts.
What part of Massachusetts?
Lowell, Massachusetts.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I'm a lash tech, I have my own business called Night Lashes.
Highest education level completed?
I also am a case manager for homeless youth.
My highest education, I went to college but I didn't finish.
Did you get like an associates or a trade or something like that or no?
No, I actually just got my esthetician license like her too.
And then what's your relationship status?
Freshly single.
Wait, what happened?
We gotta know what happened.
What did that nigga do?
Nothing.
I'm just trying to grow.
It was a seven year from like high school.
Did you leave him or he left you?
She left him.
It was mutual.
We both want to work on our goals.
We were too little.
What did you do wrong and then what did he do wrong?
Here we go.
In a relationship.
We just wasn't focused on our goals.
No, she wants more dick.
Holy shit.
No, we wasn't focused on our goals and we have two babies too, so...
Two babies.
Oh!
Wow.
Here you go.
Alright, what about you?
Wow.
Hey, I'm...
Hold on.
Stephanie, I'm 29.
I'm in the roofing industry.
I do, like, the permitting.
29.
Okay.
Okay, so people pull permits through you for roofing?
Yeah, like, I have to do all of them.
Okay.
Would that mean you work for, like, the city or the county or something like that?
Um...
It's like the building department, it's like the city.
That'd be the city, yeah.
The city.
I deal with all of them.
The city of Miami.
Yeah.
Okay, so you do the permitting for roofing specifically.
Yeah.
What is your highest education level completed?
AA and AS. Oh, and associates.
Yeah.
Okay.
What'd you get it in?
Aesthetician.
Aesthetician?
Yeah.
Holy shit.
All right.
And then, where are you originally from?
Also, New York.
You said Manhattan.
Manhattan, New York.
Are you guys friends?
No, I just met her.
We could be.
Oh.
You said Manhattan.
Where specifically in Manhattan?
Are we talking uptown?
Uptown.
Like Harlem?
No, I lived on 8th Avenue, like above a pizzeria.
Manhattan.
Wait, 8th and what?
I don't remember.
That was like 11 years ago that I left.
So you've been in Miami the past 10 years or so?
Yeah.
Do you prefer Miami?
I don't, no.
I don't like the heat.
I don't like the sun.
And then relationship status?
I have a man.
How long have you been together?
Three months and a half.
I'm happily taken.
He makes me happy.
What about you?
I'm Gianni.
I go by Mommy G. Welcome back.
Thank you.
I'm 24 years old.
I'm an entrepreneur.
I'm Dominican.
I grew up in New Jersey.
I'm an entrepreneur, content creator.
I do events.
When you say content creator, are we talking YouTube?
We're talking about OnlyFans, modeling, but I'm also an entrepreneur, so now I own a production company.
We provide the study cards for artists, like mentions, PJs, and everything that has to do with production.
So you guys shoot music videos?
Like music videos?
Yes.
Basically?
Yes.
So you provide the resources to shoot music videos, cars and everything?
Yes, the resources to shoot the videos.
Okay.
I'm going to guess, does it matter what type of music or is it mostly reggaeton or what?
Reggaeton and hip-hop, I'll say.
Okay.
And then, so OnlyFans and Modeling Agency, no, sorry, you said Production Agency, right?
Yes, production.
Based here in Miami.
What about you?
Was it high school?
I got a GED I had two kids when I was 17.
And then, relationship status?
I'm in a fresh relationship.
How long have y'all been together?
Two months now.
Cool.
And you had a quote earlier about plastic.
I say that life in plastic is fantastic.
I used to like my natural body, but I don't regret having plastic surgery.
Yeah, fuck it, man.
Why not emphasize what you've got?
Do you know what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
I am pro fake boobs.
There's one thing that I tell everybody.
Whatever your heart desires, just do it.
Who cares?
Just do it.
It's your life.
And at the end of the day, people are always going to have something negative to say.
Just do it.
We're only on this planet for a short period of time.
You might as well just fucking make yourself the best possible.
By the way, we got a big super chat.
He wasn't focusing on his goals means he wasn't making enough money fast enough.
And to the guy in the chat who asked about how it feels for FNF to be demonetized, this one's for you.
Thank you so much, bro.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, fuck the haters, bro.
It's funny, we got demonetized, we got a better studio, upgraded all the equipment, and we're doing pretty well, man.
And our day ones are still here.
Yep, exactly.
Talk to you guys.
Haters looking really stupid.
Thank you so much, Black Lemur.
Appreciate that, my friend.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Christy.
Hey, Christy.
Hi!
Okay, it was age, so 29.
Where are you from?
I am from here, born and raised in Miami.
My parents are both Cuban.
Well, what do you do for work?
Red flag!
No, I'm original from Miami.
Okay, what do I do for work?
I'm a dog training specialist and a model.
Okay.
Do you train all types of dogs?
Yes, all types of dogs.
Okay.
And then, what is your highest education level completed?
I said some college, just some college, and I've gotten some courses as well.
I got my real estate.
Okay, so you have your realtor license?
Yeah, I got my real estate.
Do you have an associate or no?
No, I don't.
Okay.
Can you train my dog?
He's an asshole.
Yeah, I got you.
No, stay away from first.
You stay away from zero.
He's in chat, by the way.
I got you.
What's your relationship status?
Taken.
Okay.
How long have you been together?
About two months.
All these fresh relationships.
I met him on a livestream.
Wait, which one?
Meet me.
Mimi?
Yeah.
What's that?
Is that like a dicey thing?
It's nothing like sexual or nothing crazy.
Is it like dicey?
That means it's sexual and crazy.
No, it's not.
You sit there and you talk to people.
Is it Omegle?
Huh?
Is it like Omegle?
I don't know what Omegle is.
I have no idea what this is.
It's an online service.
You can match people randomly around the world.
Some people use it for a dating app and other people use it for live stream.
I was using it for a live stream.
But it turned into a dating app.
It's a fusion of TikTok, Tinder, live streaming.
It's like that kind of fusion.
Okay, I think it's basically seeking arrangements featuring content.
That's what it is.
That sounds like a great fucking idea.
And it's meant to be like in all ages.
And it's meant to be like in all ages.
And it's meant to be like all ages.
18 and up.
Question, how'd you meet your man?
How did I meet?
Downstairs, I'll say some fish.
Outside where?
A man downstairs at the restaurant Sexy Fish.
Did he come up to you and say hi?
Did he come up to you and speak to you?
Yes.
There you go.
Cold approach, guys.
This is what you fucking gotta do.
He's actually downstairs and cold approach waiting for me to...
How tall is he?
How tall he's like...
That's when cold approach...
That's why cold approach works.
Cold approach still works.
But you gotta be tall enough.
So you guys met on the streaming thing.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Melanie.
I am 28.
Where are you from?
I'm from South Florida.
I was born in Miami.
Red flag.
Alright.
What do you do for work?
I work at an attorney's office.
Okay.
Are you like a paralegal?
Yeah, I'm a paralegal.
Okay.
Defense or prosecution?
It's like complex business litigation.
Oh, the boring stuff.
Okay.
And then what's your highest education level completed?
I'm finishing my bachelor's right now.
Okay.
In?
In criminal justice.
Okay.
Do you want to drop where you go to school?
It's up to you.
You don't have to.
Do I- where I go to school right now?
You can say it if you want.
I do it full-time online, so I'm at University of Phoenix, yeah.
Okay, and then what's your relationship status?
I'm taken.
Okay.
How long have you been to go?
Almost nine months.
Where'd you guys meet?
It's cuffing season.
When did we meet?
No, where?
In South Florida.
Fucking A. Unbelievable.
I just- I knew him through mutual people, so like, one day he stood on me and it's just- Okay.
Okay.
Social circle, okay.
How tall is he?
Um, like 6'1".
There it is.
Alright, what about you?
My name is Keish Mary, I'm 32, and I'm from Massachusetts.
Hold on, it's Keisha married 32, and then what do you do for?
I'm also a case manager for adolescents experiencing homelessness and pretty much just trying to get back on their feet.
Are you guys friends?
Yeah, we work together and friends.
That's so beautiful.
And then are you also from Massachusetts?
Yes.
Are you from Lowell as well?
No, I'm from Lynn.
Who's the most famous fighter out of Lowell, Mass.?
A fighter?
I don't watch fighting.
So I don't know.
Mickey Ward.
I cannot.
Dude, they made a movie about it.
Oh, my God.
Mickey Ward.
Oh, my God.
What's your...
Mickey Ward is from Lomas.
What's your highest education level completed?
Do you have a BA, too?
No.
I did high school, and then I just did courses.
Okay.
And then relationship status?
I am single.
All right.
Wait, only one on the panel.
What's your background?
She's right.
It is cuffing season.
Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican.
What's your background?
Stay away, bro.
Stay away.
I'm Puerto Rican girls.
I swear, bro.
Are you Puerto Rican, too?
Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican.
I'm Puerto Rican.
I'm Puerto Rican and Italian.
Yo, I think I played in like this.
I told you, Puerto Rican is going to be a good show.
I'm 29 and I'm out of here.
We're safe.
Yeah, we're safe.
Call me up there.
Look at her.
She's like, oh my God, I might do it.
In the Northeast, bro, it's all Puerto Ricans.
Oh, for real?
And Dominicans.
Yeah.
Damn.
There's more Puerto Ricans.
There's more Puerto Ricans.
What about you?
My name is Yesenia.
I'm 29.
Where are you from?
I'm Cuban.
Were you raised in Cuba or were you raised here in Miami?
I was raised here in Miami.
She's my best friend.
What do you do for work?
I'm a registered nurse.
I knew they were going to give you that.
I told you.
Highest education level completed?
I have my bachelor's in science.
Where'd you get it from?
Grand Canyon University.
There's a university in there?
Yes.
Guys, it's actually a real university.
It's in Phoenix, Arizona.
Thank you.
I didn't believe it was real until I was out there and I'm riding my bike and I'm like, holy fuck, it's fucking real.
Thank you.
Thank God you got that.
Okay, what's your relationship status?
Single.
All right.
And then we got two special guests.
You guys want to introduce yourself real quick to the people?
The guy in the shades and the guy in glasses.
I'll let the James Bond of the Manosphere.
Troy Francis, dating coach, based in London.
Single, obviously.
What else?
Yeah, follow me on YouTube, at RealTroyFrancis.
Why is it obvious?
Because, I just, I mean, man, we'll get into this, but I don't think marriage is a good idea for dudes these days.
And also, I'm a dating coach.
Also, I'm a dating coach and I travel the whole time, but it's hard to, you know, my base is London.
But it's hard to sort of like have a relationship doing what I do because I go around a lot.
Obviously, we're meeting different people and being social, you know, stuff like that.
Let's go.
I like variety as well.
Just being honest, I like variety.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you're not going to go to Burger King and order the same fucking thing every time, are you?
Do you know what I mean?
Sometimes you might fancy- You don't like love, then.
What?
Sorry?
You don't like love, then.
No, I like love, but- No, love is for suckers.
You know when you're in Vegas and you're staying in those fucking hotels and they've got all of those different cuisines?
You're not going to eat the one cuisine every time, are you?
You're not going to have Chinese every time.
Maybe sometimes you fancy Italian, maybe you want a bit of Mexican, maybe you want a little bit of like...
Puerto Rico?
Sorry, we're talking about food.
My bad.
Sorry, my bad.
I'm Donovan Sharp.
I've been in this community now for 10 years.
I have written, Jesus, 12 books.
I've done a jillion courses.
The reason I'm in Miami is because I'm having the third conference of masculine excellence.
It's going down October 13th through October 15th.
On October 15th, that is when I will be tying the knot to the lovely and talented Devin.
Oh, congratulations.
No, no, no.
Not legally.
Not legally.
We're going to do everything but sign the papers.
What's mine is mine.
What's hers is mine.
If things go sideways, I have contingencies in place to where she's been with me from the start, from the beginning of the business, so I'll make sure I break her off.
But if she decides to leave me, she's not getting shit.
So, that's where that goes.
I feel like that sometimes.
Sagan?
You think that's okay?
Like, that's okay to do that to her?
Do what to her?
What if she leaves?
No, no, hold on, hold on.
No, no, no, no, no, hold on.
Okay, to do what to her?
You know, like, not give her anything, like, you know.
I bought her a Range Rover for her birthday last year.
Damn!
If she leaves like it, would you take that?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, keep going.
What she's talking about is the material possession without the material possession.
The reason why she said, why would you do that to her, what she's really asking, why would you give a woman commitment and not tie anything to it?
Well, because I don't want her to be able to leave with half of my shit.
I want to be in charge of that.
Now, she's been with me for seven and a half years, so she deserves to be called a wife, but I am not about to be in a contract between myself and the state and her.
If she's cool with it, it is what it is.
She's absolutely cool.
And she's happy.
It's only for y'all to understand.
It absolutely works.
Alright.
I think you had a question for the ladies that you wanted to kick off, right?
Yeah, so the first question is, and I was asking this to girls in Mexico City last week, got some interesting answers.
And we're going to start here with the question and then go around.
So ladies, just so you know, typically we'll start here, then go back here, and then we'll just keep doing it that way.
So Couch will get to the next question first.
Cuba first.
Go ahead, Troy.
Go ahead.
Alright, is it ever acceptable under any circumstances for a woman to cheat on her man?
No.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
One by one.
Troy, how detailed, do you want to say yes or no, and a why?
And a why.
Okay, go ahead.
No, I mean, coming from experience, loyalty is everything.
What if the sex is really bad?
There's nothing that can be tied.
Exactly.
There's nothing we can't work with.
Or there's nothing we can't add on to the equation.
Who hasn't?
No.
I've never been cheated on.
That you know of?
That I know of.
So your answer is no, because loyalty is everything, correct?
Correct.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
I would definitely say no, but I mean, everyone's relationship, like you understand whatever terms you're on, or it's not considered cheating if you're open and you guys like met like this, you know, like everyone understands their relationship.
Personally, I don't like to cheat.
If I have to, you know, I'll take a step away.
Well, that's big of you.
But if I have to cheat, I will.
If I have to, I will.
It's frowned upon.
Who do you think cheats more, men or women?
Women.
Oh, here we go.
So we're going to go around the whole panel now.
Everyone's going to say no.
Women shouldn't cheat.
And yet women cheat more.
So somebody's fucking lying.
No, no, no.
It's not right.
It's frowned upon.
We do it the most because we get away with it best.
Do you think that women are able to conceal it better than men?
Absolutely.
I think we're a bit sloppy with it.
Do you know what I mean?
I think we just fuck it.
You don't know how to be consistent with your woman.
If you're cheating and someone else gets your attention, you still have to remember that you've got to pay attention to shorty back home.
Now, you've got to be consistent with everyone.
Now, she's going to know if something's going on if she's not getting the same love and attention and all this stuff.
You've got to be consistent.
Us, we know.
Baby, baby.
I love you.
I love you.
No, but I think women are crazy, too, because they'll just blow up your phone, show up at your house.
Just so I can make sure I clarify this.
You're saying no, but if you need to cheat, you would cheat.
No, I'm saying, all right, in a serious, in a respectable relationship, like where you've respect me, I respect you, and it's actually a serious relationship.
No, I'm not cheating.
But if it's just like a little...
Yeah, if it's a little fuckable.
His question was, is it ever acceptable for a woman to cheat in a relationship?
In a serious relationship, absolutely not.
What about you?
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
No, I don't think it's acceptable for a woman to cheat.
Why?
Can you say why?
Yeah, if you guys agree on exclusivity, then there should be no reason for it.
Alright, what about you?
Okay, so loyalty is fundamental.
Your word is bond.
So your answer is no as well?
Nope, the answer is definitely not.
Absolutely not.
Hold on.
The answer is not no.
You ever cheated on before?
No, I haven't.
Never ever?
Oh, that's cap.
I've been cheated on.
I've been cheated on.
Never ever?
I was in a 10-year relationship.
So you had a relationship since what, like 18 or something?
I was in a relationship when I was, yeah, 18.
Yeah, up until last year.
And you never cheated?
No.
No, I didn't.
She's a high-quality Cuban woman.
She's got those Cuban morals.
Yeah, exactly.
I was definitely taught that.
If you want to cheat, just leave the relationship.
That's how I was taught.
That's the party line.
You're going to say that, but she's just said women cheat more.
I'm not her, I'm me.
I know you're me, but somebody here is capping.
Right?
If we're all going to go around the whole fucking thing and everyone's going to say no.
I don't think that women cheat more.
I actually think men cheat more.
Men get caught more.
Women get more of cheesies to cheat.
And also, they're better at concealing it.
But the thing is, when a woman cheats, it's emotional.
That's your replacement.
When a man cheats, he just does it for one.
So he does it more rapidly, more commonly.
Who's more sexual, men or women?
Men.
No, women.
Don't you think?
I feel like women, they just hide it more.
Yeah.
What about you?
Is cheating ever acceptable by a female to you?
I don't think that it's acceptable for a woman to cheat.
I'm not a cheater.
Well, I didn't ask you if you were a cheater.
I'm saying.
She said, I'm not a cheater.
I'm not a cheater, and I don't think that it's okay for a woman to cheat.
Why?
Because if that's not what you wanted, you shouldn't stay single.
Single.
Exactly.
You see, and she's Spanish, just like me.
That's what her mother's teacher is.
Question.
Have you ever cheated before?
No, never.
Never.
I never cheated.
Stop the cow!
If I'm not happy in the relationship, I just leave.
What about this though, right?
So a lot of women...
And some dudes do this as well, right?
They will have a backup plan, and then when they want to leave their main guy, they'll sort of secretly start, like, kind of, you know...
That's standard operating procedure, fam.
Yeah, exactly.
So that in itself is cheating, isn't it?
And that's a pretty common thing.
Because then the girl just goes to her main guy and says, yeah, sorry, it's over.
And then two weeks later, she's seen the new dude.
But of course, really, you know, secretly, she's been like dealing with him, you know, under the surface.
So I think that a lot more cheating happens here.
And then the woman just moves on to the next guy and says, oh, yeah, it just kind of happened.
You know, we just met and it's great.
But actually, really, she cheated in order to get out of the relationship.
Okay.
What about you?
Do you think cheating is ever acceptable by a woman?
No.
Why so?
I mean, it hurts.
Girls or guys, I don't think anybody needs to hurt anybody.
Everybody here believes in their partner, and that's not a thing you should break.
I'm all about loyalty.
Question for you.
What if he cheated first?
Would that make it okay?
No.
I'll leave if he wants to do that and that's on him.
And I deserve better than that.
What if you can't leave because you love him?
What if you leave and come back?
That means he's controlling, fresh.
But do you know for a fact that you're going to leave and you're not coming back?
I would leave.
I know how to leave.
Because everyone spins the block.
If I'm spinning the block and whatever, toxic, whatever not, I'm sorry.
Yeah, I'm gonna be a weak bitch for the right one.
I'm sorry.
It depends.
It's everyone.
It depends on the situation.
Guys, guys, guys.
One microphone at a time because when you guys are all talking over each other, no one can hear what you're saying.
So I have no problem with you guys talking.
Just one at a time.
So you were saying something and you were saying something.
So you said, you know your worth, and then she said, if it's the right guy, she's staying, right?
And I get that.
But at the end of the day, you need to know what you deserve.
Absolutely.
And regardless if you love him or not, he hurt you and he disrespected you.
But you can also grow.
You can also grow together.
If it's a person that you really...
Listen, in life, you're not going to get someone perfect.
You have to pick and choose your battle.
You know what?
Maybe he's not amazing or doesn't have the best job, but I can help you get a better job.
I can help this.
I can do whatever.
Certain things, you have to pick who it is that you're going to invest in.
Can you help him keep his stuff in his pants?
Listen, if he's gonna be him, you know who it is that you're getting into a relationship with.
You can't go into a relationship.
No, you don't always know though.
Okay, but however you meet them.
Say you met him on the streets or he's super flirtatious.
You see how you met him.
He was with somebody else.
And you thought that you was gonna be the one shorty?
No.
Everything's gonna happen the same.
Listen, you have to know who he is.
Yeah, you have to know who he is.
And the thing is that in a relationship, you're still getting to know them.
And you don't technically know anyone until you're with them in the relationship and something goes left.
Because that's when they show you their true colors.
So then it's like, what are we doing?
I know who it is that I'm going to stick with, if anything.
If I see potential, not more.
I can't believe in you.
I can't believe more in you than you believe in yourself.
But if I see the potential and you're actually working towards it, we could do it.
Alright, two-part question here.
Number one, you said no because it hurts.
Just out of curiosity, do you think it's worse of a man cheats or a woman cheats, in your opinion?
I think it's equal on both.
It hurts a woman if a man does it and it hurts a man like if it's a woman he actually loves and is about her and the girl does it it'll hurt him emotionally.
So both of them are acts of betrayal.
Which one do you think is a bigger act of betrayal?
I say the man on a woman because a woman is, you know, like all about her heart and her emotions.
Okay.
And that, you know, that hurts us.
Interesting.
For me, I think it's for a man.
I agree.
Because a man, it'll hurt his pride.
It'll hurt his ego.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
So you're saying it's worse when a man cheats on a woman, right?
And then you're saying it's worse when a woman cheats on a man?
No, no, no.
Opposite.
Oh, the other way.
Yes.
It's worse when a man.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm saying it's worse when a woman cheats on a man.
You were correct.
Okay.
All right.
But you think it's worse when a man cheats on a man.
Okay.
And then real quick, how many of you agree with her?
She's saying if you've got a good relationship with a guy and he cheats, hey, it might be better for you to just stick it out versus leaving immediately.
How many of you agree with her on that?
I agree.
Raise of hands, who agrees with her?
Disagree.
Show me one time your true colors.
When you say true colors though, isn't it the case that men are just programmed to spread their seed to one variety?
So every man's true colors, in theory, is to cheat.
So what are you going to do?
Not the man that's for me.
Let me know when you find the one that don't cheat.
I think that it's easier for a woman to stay after her man cheat than a man to stay after the woman cheat.
Because it's in the man nature.
It's different when a man cheat than when the woman cheat.
Donovan, you had a point?
Listen, I'm telling y'all right now, I mean, the death of a relative, the death of a loved one, the death of a pet, nothing crushes a man's soul like a woman cheating on him.
There is no greater physical, emotional pain.
Then learning that your woman has slept with another man.
There is no other pain.
That is the one thing that will destroy a man psychologically, at least temporarily.
So it's 1000% fucking worse when women cheat.
Unless you're Adam.
Oh Jesus Christ.
Does anyone else agree with her that it's worse when a man cheats on his girl?
Who else agrees with her?
Raise of hands.
Who else agrees?
I don't need to agree with me.
I kind of agree.
Well, you took the opposite stance a second ago.
No, I didn't know where he was coming from.
So who agrees that it's worse when a man cheats?
I only kind of agree just because I'm super emotional.
I feel like men have to work to get a woman.
You actually have to put in work.
It's not easy for women to get guys because it's already what they want.
Look, I'll put it to you this way.
So are you saying it's worse or better then?
Because if it's easy for a...
So you're saying a man has to put in more effort?
So if you're in a relationship, at least in my relationships, with my guy, when he stepped out, he had to put in work with this girl.
So that makes it feel worse to you.
Yeah, because it's like, damn, you're putting in all this work over here.
She got your attention.
She's doing all this stuff.
Mentally and emotionally, she got your attention.
And I'm over here stuck in the house.
But she's willing to take that back?
That's the one that I didn't take back because I didn't see any potential in him.
He wasn't a great father.
He wasn't a great son.
He wasn't a great man.
You give him a pass if he actually has potential or ambitious to be greater.
Overall, you can't really be shitty in every aspect.
Choose your damn downfall.
Listen, they both summed it up.
If your value is high enough, your girl will forgive your cheating.
Just like the hotter a woman is, the more we tend...
Here's how it goes.
If you're worth ten figures, you can have your wife and your side bitch sleeping in the same bedroom.
If you're worth seven figures, you can have a side chick.
Maybe she lives in the guest house.
If you're worth up or six figures, your woman can know about the side chick, as long as she doesn't know too much.
If you're not making six figures, you ain't cheating.
That's the way it goes.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
So what it really comes down to is, what does he provide for me?
How does he add value to my life?
Okay, so he's stuck his dick in another chick, which, by the way, is nothing for us.
It's like shaking a hand.
That's why it's worse when a woman cheats, because we know there was emotion involved.
How I always say is, cheating is a rich mess for her.
No, no, but women, it's worse when women cheat, because women tend to cheat emotionally.
And so women are okay with men cheating, because they're taking care of them.
No, but dudes, it's like, to have sex, it's just a physical act.
It's like water skiing.
She mentioned earlier, your man won't cheat.
Why'd you say that?
The man for you won't cheat.
Why'd you say that?
Because I'm going to make sure he's well taken care of.
I agree.
So you think you can satisfy your man by yourself?
100%.
And if I can't, he's not the man for me.
Here's the deal.
She was right.
No man is going to be perfect, but let me ask you this.
What do you look for in a man?
Describe your perfect man in 15 seconds or less.
15 seconds or less, my perfect man.
Loyalty.
Respect, being able to have a conversation with you, mutual agreement.
I'm all about being open, but I'm also all about- Let me stop you right there.
There are millions of men out there, yet you're single.
You're not looking for that.
You're looking for a man who can take care of you, and that's okay.
I'm not because I can take care of myself.
I just got out of a seven-year relationship.
Seven years.
Look, the men that you say you want, you won't want.
Listen, there are many loyal men who are open to having conversations who are short and fat and don't have any game and don't have anything going for themselves.
So you have to acquire more than just loyalty.
And oh, by the way...
Oh, by the way, we don't cheat.
We exercise options.
If I cheat on my girl, that's me buying another girl a fucking car for Christmas.
That's me putting up another girl in some apartment somewhere so I can go and smash her when the wife isn't home.
That's male cheating.
You see, when men cheat, men, we provide loyalty through provisioning.
We've had this conversation before.
And this is why cheating doesn't hurt women as much, is because you guys, not to say that if you find out your man cheats, you're not hurt.
It does hurt on some level.
But in your hindbrain, you're thinking, okay, is this girl, like, are there any diseases?
Did he get her pregnant?
Right?
That's what you're thinking about your bottom line.
Yes, there's the emotional, there's the emotional scars that come with that, but you know, at the end of the day, it's like taking a piss for us.
So, and I think a lot of women like to pretend that cheating is a much bigger deal to them than it really is as an excuse to just say, well, he's not the man for me.
Guess what?
Those men that are not for you, guess what?
They got women chasing them around because those women, no one understand there's going to be inherent risk with any situation.
If you get with the top guy, guess what?
He's going to exercise options.
And he's also going to exercise an STD. That's disgusting.
Hold on, hold on.
Dude, that is such a...
That's disgusting.
No, that is a piss-poor bullshit answer.
When's the last time you fucked with a guy with an STD? Yeah, no.
I'm not willing to take that risk, though.
Especially in Miami.
You gotta see where we're from.
You gotta see where we're from.
Good for you.
The point is, STDs are not nearly as prevalent as everybody says they are.
This city is disgusting.
I need you to quit interrupting me.
Okay.
Okay.
What it really comes down to, and she nailed it, depending upon the value your man gives you and the way he makes you feel, the way he provides for you, you're going to have to put up with certain things.
I provide my woman with a certain lifestyle.
If I want to go fuck another bitch, I'm going to go fucking do it.
And you want to know something?
If she wants to fucking leave, I got 12 other bitches that are waiting to take her place.
That's the facts.
Those are the facts.
That's not misogynistic.
That's just the fucking truth.
I love my woman, and if she were to leave me tomorrow, it would break my heart for about ten minutes, and then I'd be right back on the horse.
Love my girl, but this is how it is.
So I don't want to see here, and guys, this is bad advice.
Girls don't want fucking loyalty.
They want provisioning, and that's okay.
Guys, we don't need Disney princesses.
We want girls who look good, cook good, suck good, and give us sex at the end of the night, and don't give us a bunch of fucking lip.
If you do that for us, we'll fucking give you the world.
That's why I love you.
I strongly agree.
Do you agree with him or no?
No, I don't agree.
I strongly agree.
I do.
Have you noticed as well, though, when there's an infidelity, then the guy is always like, oh, so did you fuck him?
What was his dick like?
What was his sex like?
What's the first girl you ask your man if he cheats?
What's the first question?
Do you love her?
Do you love her?
Do you wear condoms?
Do you wear condoms?
Exactly.
But that proves the fucking point because it's about the provisioning.
And look, there are guys who've come on this show before and they have argued, very high value guys, and they will say, listen, my woman is my fucking top priority of my life.
I love her to fucking death.
I would die for that woman.
She gets all of my provisioning.
She is the fucking queen.
But...
I'm a man, and what that means is that sometimes I want to have a little bit of variety.
And if I fuck the waitress, if I fuck the barista, if I fuck some random girl in Mexico or something like that, does it really fucking matter in the wider context of that relationship?
And that's the fucking difference.
But, as he said, when a woman does it to a man, he's fucking destroyed because it's the biological reaction to that act which is just intolerable.
It's emotional for her.
Exactly.
It's emotional, and that's the thing that fucks it up.
Look, you guys have been sold the myth.
If a man loves you, he won't cheat on you.
False.
If a man loves you, he won't let you find out he's smashing other books.
Right?
And the more you mean to him, the more covert he will be with his extracurricular affairs.
That's how it is.
Alternatively, there's the other argument.
There's the other way of doing it, which is that he's up front with you straight away.
So, from the beginning, he's like, listen, babe, you're fucking awesome.
I think you're great.
I really see us having a future together.
However...
You know, amazingly, I'm a dude.
What that means is that I like variety, and maybe occasionally I'm going to step out.
But that doesn't affect anything between us.
That's communication, though.
You could start with that.
Well, here's the thing.
If I told you that from the very beginning, would you still be upset?
No, because I know what I was getting myself into.
So if you lay the cards out on the table, then I'm good with that because I have an option.
It's when you don't give me an option.
Hang on, she's lying.
So basically what we're saying, she's lying, she's full of shit.
Listen, don't be honest with women, guys.
Women want to be lied to.
Women reward men.
Say whatever you want.
Women reward men who lie to them.
Listen, if you're living that kind of lifestyle, if you're that fucking dude, your girl knows you're going to be fucking other bitches any goddamn way.
There's no need to have that conversation with her.
When a man and a woman gets together, there is an unwritten understanding.
You provide me with the exclusive sex, I provide you with the provisioning.
Any deviation from that means the end of the relationship.
She doesn't have to know about the other side bitches.
Real shit.
I don't...
Donovan, I don't disagree with what you're saying.
But there are dudes...
I mean, I've seen Justin Waller make this argument.
Oh, thanks, Justin Waller.
I think...
Who else is it?
Sorry, there's another content creator I've seen who's made this argument for radical honesty.
Myron?
Andrew, probably, Andrew.
Andrew, I think the Tates as well.
I get where you're coming from as well, though.
It comes back to value again, doesn't it?
If you're a fucking high-value dude, in all of the metrics that that means, you probably can have that conversation.
If you're Leonardo DiCaprio, Or Troy Francis.
Or Troy Francis.
You can have that conversation, right?
If you are working in Publix, and you're fucking five foot four, and you've got a fucking dab board, can you have that conversation?
You can, it's not a good idea.
So, you guys look for value in men, because ultimately you want provisioning, and that's fucking fine.
We should just be honest about it.
Question for you.
If your man said to you today, you know what, babe?
I love it all my heart, but I messed up.
I slept with a girl.
Would you leave him?
No.
Why?
Atta girl.
Absolutely not.
Why?
Because he's been good to me in every other area that I need That train of conversation, but you were saying you're gonna be enough for your guy who Who else on the panel thinks that they can sexually satisfy their man by themselves?
Raise your hands.
Oh, you're all delusional.
I want to get a body of work here.
Raise your hands nice and high if you think you can sexually satisfy your man by yourself.
Okay, that's a majority of the women on the panel.
Okay, so a couple of you don't think you can do it yourself.
Yeah?
Yes or no?
No, no, no, I was joking.
I was just like, kind of.
Kind of?
Okay.
She's in the early throes of romance.
Okay.
You ain't never had no pussy like this, nigga!
She did it to him like that.
He shouldn't need it.
I have to go with the pussy.
Oh my god.
Hold on real quick.
For those same girls that think that they can sexually satisfy their man by themself, is that why you don't think that men should cheat?
You wouldn't accept it?
No.
Is that why?
I think that's right, yeah.
Go ahead.
I believe because a lot of girls not even flexible.
Hey y'all!
I'm sorry, a lot of people are stiff as hell.
That's true, that's true.
Being a dance instructor, a lot of girls are stiff as hell, so they don't even know what they're doing.
That's true, you should come to London.
You should come to London, fuck man.
I'm just saying in real life, a lot of girls are stiff as fuck.
Okay, so are you saying that the more flexible woman is, the less likely she'll be cheated on?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm just saying, a lot of girls are stiff as hell, so they don't even know how to have sex for real.
You guys have got this all wrong, man.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
You think quality sex is what will keep men from cheating?
I mean, I really don't know what he's meant from cheating.
Because I haven't personally been cheated on.
I've only been in two real relationships my whole life.
But you said you can sexually satisfy a man by yourself, correct?
I can.
I can.
I really can.
No one woman can sexually satisfy you.
When it comes to fuck your man, he will still go shit.
Literally.
Because look, there's one thing that a single woman cannot give to a man, however fucking flexible she is, whatever, it doesn't matter.
You can't give a man variety.
Exactly.
That's the fucking problem that you've all got.
You cannot give a man variety.
Multiple.
Ultimately, a man wants fucking variety.
And that's why you get these couples who try and, like, fucking spice things up.
You know, she comes in wearing a wig.
Always a mistake.
Always will be a man, no matter what.
Exactly.
And this is the fucking problem.
The sex can be fucking amazing.
And it probably is for the first, like, I don't know, three months, six months, a year, whatever.
Three, four, three weeks.
And we all know...
Well, yeah, three minutes with me.
And then we all know it starts to get a little bit fucking boring.
It starts to get a little bit samey.
It starts to get a little bit...
And at that point...
If you don't give it to her, he's going to look for her.
I'd rather give it to her so he don't do it behind my back.
No, but for the guy, not only is the sex getting boring, but also he's programmed to want to fuck other women.
So, you know, there's no wonder that this is happening.
You understand what I mean?
So a single woman, however great she is in bed, however amazing a person she is, she cannot fully sexually satisfy a guy, particularly over the long term.
I'll put it to you like this.
Men and women both have to work for what they want.
Men, we want to get paid and we want to get laid.
So that's what we do.
If you want to get paid and get laid, you have to be competent.
You have to know how to make money.
You gotta be a badass.
The ultimate goal for women is to belong to a high-status, high-value man.
And the way to do that is not to be fucking around.
The way to do that is to be as sexually chaste as possible.
So men, like, you gotta understand.
A lot of people think we just come on here and talk shit about women.
No, we're hard on guys too.
You can't be a fucking loser living in your basement at your mom's house talking about, I need a dime piece.
But by the same token, you can't be some fat hoe with a bunch of tattoos talking about, I need my man to be 6'6 with a 6 foot dick.
At the end of the day, you get what you deserve.
And if you're a man, if you don't have the woman that you deserve, that means you haven't earned it yet.
If you're a woman who doesn't have the man that you deserve, it means you haven't earned it yet.
Ladies, I have one question for you on the panel, if you don't mind.
Can we finish the line of questioning, though?
Or did it have to do with this?
Okay, go ahead.
Just real quick.
What is the best pussy?
New pussy.
The best sex you'll ever have with a woman is the first time he has sex with her.
What about you?
Is cheating ever acceptable in your eyes?
This is going back to Troy's original question.
No, never.
But I also was going to say, if you want a variety, why don't you just stay single?
Well, I am single.
So I would not disagree with that.
I think there's an issue with dudes getting married and then, you know.
Well, the reason why I don't stay single is because life with my woman is better than my life without it.
Right?
I would live a great life without my woman, there's no doubt.
But my life is better with her in it.
Literally.
That's all there is to it.
I want to be taken care of.
I'm sorry?
Like how?
Are you kidding me?
Dude, my woman, oh my god, dude, my woman cooks, she cleans, she runs the whole back half of my business.
So you would only be sad for 10 minutes if you lost all of that?
I would what now?
You would only be sad for 10 minutes if you lost all of that.
You're goddamn right, actually.
But I feel like...
Because guess what?
Someone else is gonna do it.
I was gonna say anyone can do it.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Wait, what?
Anyone can do what?
Cook, clean...
Anyone can cook clean?
Oh, you're talking about a woman.
I thought she was talking about the man.
No, not everyone.
You know what?
Every woman can cook and clean, but guess what?
Most women don't.
So there you go.
I know women that don't.
There you go.
Some women don't.
Nope.
How many of y'all can cook?
I can cook.
Hit the stop the cat button right now.
I'm a Cuban culture.
If we don't cook, we can't yell that.
The real question is how often do you cook?
It's a real question.
Just because you can't doesn't mean she will care.
So you said no.
Why do you think it's unacceptable for women to cheat under any circumstances?
Just stay single.
That's why.
Just stay single.
No, I'm not doing that.
I'm a man.
What about you?
Is it ever acceptable for a female to cheat?
So I would say that some people could justify it by like, oh, he cheated on me first, but...
Right, right?
And then some people would be like, okay, I'll cheat back.
But in my personal opinion, I really think that...
And I think someone said it too.
It's just break up.
Just break up.
Know your words.
Know that...
Whatever the case may be, whatever.
If that's how you're feeling, like, that didn't sit right with you, don't cheat back and stoop to a level or anything like that.
Just be done.
And that's it.
Just keep it moving.
I think a lot of women really need to talk to the wives and girlfriends of high-status men.
I think you guys can learn a lot from those women.
I think they could give you some pretty good perspective on the reason why cheating for a man really ain't that big a deal.
It's not as big a deal as you guys make it out to be.
It's just literally sex.
What about you?
Okay, what if it's just sex for a woman?
It's never just sex for a woman.
I don't think that men cheat is because of sex.
I think that sometimes men cheat because of the stress that they have at home.
Stop talking.
Men cheat because of sex.
That was complete and utter nonsense.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
I think it's because of the stress that they have a home too.
Because some women, the first thing they do when they get back home is fucking fine.
Okay, that makes sense.
And are about anything.
Men don't want to hurt that shit when they get back home.
That might be true.
They want to get their dicks out when they get back home.
That might be true.
That might be a mitigating factor, but the fun They want me to wait for them with a hot meal at home.
That might be true.
That's a mitigating factor.
The main reason why men cheat is because they like fresh pussy.
And that's a fucking fact.
It's not about if she's in a bad mood.
It's not about if the fucking washing machine breaks.
So it's all about fresh pussy.
Sorry?
It's all about fresh pussy.
Absolutely.
I agree to that too, because who the fuck wants to eat the same shit every day?
Exactly.
You don't get tired?
Exactly.
Look, they want a hot meal.
Don't take it.
They want a hot meal.
Listen, don't, and listen, ladies, ladies, please, please, don't, I'm telling you right now, from the bottom of my heart to all of your future boyfriends who are going to cheat on you, don't, listen, listen, listen, don't take it personally.
It's nothing personal.
Women cheat for so many reasons.
They cheat for vengeance and revenge.
Men, we just cheat because we see a hot girl and we want to fuck her.
That's it.
It's nothing personal.
Dude, if I have ever cheated on my woman, dude, the thing is, is we, our feelings for our women does not increase or decrease when we have sex with other women.
Absolutely.
It does happen.
It does happen from time to time, but most of the time, when there's a guy who knows what he wants and he has his woman, he's got the woman he wants.
Sometimes it can increase your feeling for the main chicken.
It don't matter how good she suck your dick, how good she fuck you, it don't matter how.
Who the woman she is, it don't matter.
Keep it pushing.
Alright, so you said no, just leave.
Alright, what about you?
Is it ever acceptable for a woman to cheat on her guy?
No, it's not acceptable.
Hell no.
Alright.
Why not?
Why not?
I just feel like cheating on both sides is not acceptable.
Like, if y'all loyal to each other, just be loyal.
Okay.
What about you?
No, I don't feel like it's acceptable.
Everyone's coming out with someone.
Well, I've been cheated on.
Okay.
Unfortunately.
We've all been cheated on.
You date niggas, you know you get cheated on.
Shit, it builds character.
You already know what time that is.
This is my first black guy, so give me a break.
Wait, say what?
It's my first black guy.
Oh, that's Kat.
You came in here with braids last time, baby girl.
Don't you know that's the reason I asked that question?
Troy, you had a second question?
Alright, who...
We could continue on the same theme, and we could ask...
Who cheats more, men or women, and why?
Women cheats more.
Who do we start with?
We can start on the couch and then work our way backward.
So who cheats more, men or women, and why?
Why do you think that?
Women!
Yeah, it's obviously women.
Why?
Everybody's gonna say men, but it's obviously women.
Why?
I don't know, women just, they get unhappy at home and then they go looking for other things.
More opportunities, just say that.
What about you?
Pretty much.
I think men, because a lot of men think with their penis.
Yes we do.
But that doesn't mean we cheat more.
Do they have the same access as women though?
Do they have the same availability to cheat?
What do you mean?
Is it as easy for a man to cheat as for a woman to cheat?
Yes it is.
I'm around men, I'm sorry, I'm around men that party a lot.
Just the status, not even like that, but just the status that they have, a lot of women are on them.
Listen, ladies, hold on, not to cut you off, I'm about to change all of your lives.
The reason why you guys think men cheat more is because 95% of men are invisible to you sexually.
She just sat here and told you, I'm around men all the time.
High status.
No, no, no, no.
You said men of status.
Only the top 10% of men are regularly getting pussy.
Those are the only men that are visible to the naked eye from the average rank and file woman.
And so when you ask a woman who cheats more, men or women, you're not thinking about 100% of men.
You're thinking about the 10% of men you pay attention to, which is only the top 10% of men.
So anytime there is a data set, understand your data set's flawed because you're only thinking about the men you want to fuck.
Absolutely.
Alright, let me simplify it.
He asked before, do you think it's easier for men or women to cheat?
You said men.
Not even high status men.
Men that they think may have something, they don't really have anything.
Women are all women.
Oh, those are bum ass niggas.
Women are easy.
Some of them are very easy.
You said before they have status and or purported status, right?
Or purported status, right?
But is it easy to have status and or even purport status?
No, it's not.
So therefore, wouldn't it be fair to say, logically sound, that it's not easier for men to get laid like you think it is?
It is easy for men to get laid.
You just contradicted.
I kind of did.
It is not easy for men to get laid.
It is in a way.
No, no, no.
This is simple, bro.
This is very simple.
How many niggas you fuck normally?
There it is.
What the fuck, bro?
The deal is this.
Leonardo DiCaprio does not have as many people sliding in his DMs as maybe you, you, or even you.
That's real shit.
That is how hard it is for guys to get laid.
That's why when we get to the point where we can start getting laid, we don't want to stop getting laid.
Dude, I'm going to tell you what.
I didn't work all this time and make all this money to just be fucking one chick.
You know what I'm saying?
Look, it is what it is.
And look, if my woman wants to be ego-invested, and I can't believe you cheated on me like you, you've got an ego problem, fine.
You can leave the car keys, you can go off and find you a loyal man who's not going to do shit for you.
But if you want to live the life you live, if you want to walk into any department store and not have to check your fucking bank account when you want to buy something, come and see me.
Ooh, is that orange juice?
What about you?
Do you think men or women cheat more?
For you.
Oh, um...
I honestly want to say I don't know, but I would probably say...
Yeah, I would probably say, um...
I mean, I would probably say men.
Okay.
Why?
Why?
What makes you think that?
Honestly, throughout this chat as well, it's kind of considered nothing for a man, right?
So you're just, whatever.
It's just kind of a fun thing.
It's just an act.
Because they don't have the same mental reservations?
That's right.
What about you?
I say men.
Okay, why?
Like you said, because variety.
And, like, they can't keep their dick in their pants.
Because they want variety?
Like, every time they go out, ooh, titties, ass.
All right, because they want variety.
All right, what about you?
I guess the same answer as her.
You think men because they want variety?
Yeah.
Okay.
Interesting.
All right, what about you?
Who do you think cheats more, men or women?
Why?
Why?
Can I say both?
If you had to pick one, maybe 51% or 49%?
Okay, I'll say woman because we have more oceans and we're more slick about it.
Like, when woman's cheese...
Men barely find out, but women always find out.
What about you?
So, initially I was going to say men, but I'm going to keep it on filter with you guys.
So women, like she said, sneakier, better at lying, better at hiding things.
Number two, really emotional.
So they'll do it for the revenge, they'll do it because they're mad at you, they'll do it because you didn't take out the trash three nights in a row.
I'm exaggerating.
But you get what I mean.
The emotions.
The emotions drives them to cheat.
And they have easy access.
Because I worked at Hooters for like seven years with 80 other girls listening to them talk about cheating on their men all the time.
Really?
So what about hormones as well?
Do you think the hormonal cycle changes things as well?
Definitely, that has to do with the emotional part.
And men are more busy working too.
So women, she the most.
They be cheating while they're men working.
What about you?
I think men do.
Especially if the man has money.
I just think that he has the ability to kind of be able to do what he wants.
And the woman's going to deal with it, especially if he's taking care of her.
Hold on real fast though.
Remember, he asked the question, who do you think cheats more, men or women?
You're using the caveat of if a man has money.
Do you think a majority of men have money?
No, I don't.
But the ones who don't, they're not getting laid.
It's not that easy.
Are they actually cheating them?
If they are probably not because they probably know.
Well, there you go.
So you don't think they're cheating as much?
I also think that men like it's easier for them to make the decision.
Whereas like a woman's gonna contemplate it more before she actually does it.
But women, I mean, I was asking before about who's more sexual, men or women, and my suspicion is actually it's women.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I reckon actually women are, you guys are kind of horndogs under the nice, polite surface.
And it's sort of like, you know, I think women are acting on that because they've got a fuckton of opportunities as well, right?
That's true.
Let me ask you guys a quick question.
Let me just finish real quick.
So you said you think men cheat more if they have money.
Yeah.
But that's a minority of men.
Yeah, and the other 90% I mean if they even have a girlfriend or have a you know a significant other I think that women cheat more because We No, not easy access.
No, I'm just saying that's one of them.
No, and also because you have the guy that pays for your nails.
You have the guy that's paying your rent.
Unbelievable.
But I'm saying...
Let's be real.
Let her talk, please.
Let's be real.
Like, right now, the way that all these females are moving, the way that everyone's moving, everyone's trying to capitalize off someone.
Everyone's trying to mooch or get something.
At least...
Females that don't have the money that are trying to come up.
So, what do you have?
You got the friend that pays for your lunch.
You got the friend that's over here cash-apping you for your nails.
All that shit is cheating.
If you got a man...
Well, but if we're talking about sex...
But even with sex, you think they're just gonna put out?
Are they cash-apping you for nothing?
So these women are fucking all those men?
How do you know this?
Okay, so for starters...
I worked at a bar, so I saw all the girls, and I just saw how they moved.
And then with the guys, you see all the guys, they're quick to move in, and it's the girl that has to choose.
This one, he loves the way I smell.
He bought me a perfume.
This one wants my nails to always be nice.
There are guys that literally, oh my god, you have beautiful feet.
Here's this money for your feet.
I like it.
Can I just say, by the way, I like the way everyone on this panel has been like, so, yeah, some women cheat.
How do you know?
Oh, because I worked in a bar, because I talked to these other girls.
Nobody on the panel is like, nobody on the panel is like, yeah, I fucking cheat.
Everyone on this panel is a fucking angel.
No, I'm not an angel.
Definitely not an angel.
No woman on this panel has ever cheated.
No woman on this panel has ever done anything wrong.
It's only these other hoes over here.
My last relationship, I cheated.
But it was because I was exiting.
I was doing my big one before I left.
So that's what I was talking about before.
Because I think women will sometimes go to the next guy.
So to summarize, you think women cheat more because they're able to put men in compartmentalized roles where they're benefiting?
Absolutely.
They benefit from many different stuff.
What about you?
I think that women, for sure, cheat more than men.
Why do you say that?
I think that women are a little bit selfish sometimes because our man, you know, we could have everything in front of us in the sense of we have him working, he's paying the bills, he's doing all these things, but we're out here chasing the things that we shouldn't be chasing.
Excitement.
Excitement, because it gets a bit fucking worried, doesn't it?
And I think we're just like men.
A little bit undercover, but we're just a little sneakier.
It's not only that, women mistake stability for boredom and end up fucking up really good relationships.
Exactly, I agree.
And for all of you women who think men cheat more, let me ask all of you a question.
If me and, I don't know, you, if somebody came in here and said, I will give you a million dollars if you can go out there and fuck more guys, Whoever gets laid most gets a million dollars.
Who's gonna win?
You or me?
The woman.
100%.
Hold on, hold on.
Why is that?
Because it's easy.
Anybody's...
I can go to the gas station.
Yeah, men are looking to the strip club, to the club, anywhere.
Okay.
For men, you guys have to put a little bit more work.
A little bit?
A lot.
A lot.
I'll give it to you.
And would you just fuck anybody?
No.
Of course not.
What would you say is the percentage of men you find unattractive?
Most.
Yeah.
How about 90%?
I was going to say 85%.
There it is.
There it is.
Listen, just because women, look, here's the deal, guys.
I don't, like, I've come to figure, I've come to sort of figure this out.
Are there good, and I said this on the last podcast, there are some inherently good women and some inherently bad women.
Most women and men fall somewhere between high risk or low risk.
Or somewhere in between.
The more risk she is, the more you have to mitigate it.
The less of a risk she is, the less you have to mitigate it.
That's what it comes down to.
It doesn't make you bad people.
It's just, you know, don't be fucking at the niggas.
Alright, so I'll read the chats real quick.
And then I think one of the ladies might have had a question for the panel.
Yeah, we'll come back around.
Yeah, we'll come back around for the ladies if they had a question.
Alright, so Trigona goes, Ladies, on a long-term committed relationship, what's the longest you've gone without giving it up to your man?
Uh-oh.
Okay, we can go around the panel on that one real fast.
What's the longest you've went without giving it up to your guy in a relationship?
Wait, like it was my boyfriend?
It was a guy that you were seeing somewhat seriously.
You were seeing each other.
We'll just say that.
Oh, but he wasn't my boyfriend yet.
Not yet.
As long as you made him wait.
If he's not my boyfriend, I'm not having sex with him.
I agree.
Are you saying you've never had sex with a guy that wasn't your boyfriend before?
Don't cap.
No, I have, but that's like one night stands.
What's the longest that you ever made a guy wait then?
Until we got in a relationship.
And how long was that?
Two hours.
Two years?
No.
Me and my boyfriend right now, we've been together four months, but we got together a month after actually knowing each other.
So you made him wait a month?
Yeah.
Alright, what about you?
It just depends.
It could be three months to six months.
What's the longest you actually made a guy wait?
Six months.
What about you?
Three.
Alright.
You?
Like a few months.
Okay.
You said three and then how much for you?
Like three, two.
Okay.
You?
A couple months.
Is that two?
What's a couple?
I don't know.
Is it three?
Is it two?
Is it four?
Three, I guess.
I don't know.
What about you?
Three months.
After we started going on dates, I waited three months.
It's like a 90 day date period.
Okay.
What about you?
Are we talking about somebody that we're in a relationship with or somebody that's trying to pursue us?
Yeah, someone that's trying...
It could be either or.
Okay, so somebody that I've been in a relationship with, I get my period for six days, so six days.
And then somebody trying to pursue me, I've waited up to three months as well.
Okay, so the longest three.
All right, what about you?
I was like two months.
Two months, all right.
What about you?
So in a relationship, we're not allowed to say no.
So it doesn't matter what it is.
No, I mean like a guy that was pursuing you.
What's the longest you made him wait?
Pursuing, I would say like three months.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, three months.
I'm the only one that doesn't wait a month.
This pursuing thing, though, is a little bit of a grey area, because I guess what we're talking about more is if you're, like, sort of, your date...
Like, if it's some guy and you met him and he's messaging you and he's going backwards and forwards and he's taking a while, that's slightly different.
I think what we're...
I guess what we're more interested in is if you guys are actually fucking seeing each other.
And then you'll say, you know...
And it's like, right, we're dating, you're meeting up every week, going for drinks, and he's, like, trying to make the moves, and you're like, no, no, no.
And then you're making him wait three months.
But it sounds like you're...
You're not doing that.
It's more like if it's a longer...
She knows he's interested.
Like five dates.
To me, it's fucking unbelievable.
Who are these guys who are waiting fucking three months?
I'm gonna be honest with you, it depends on the guy.
The 90% of men that women are not attracted to...
Real quick, I had a question.
You said three months, right?
Most of you guys said three months.
Yeah, most.
In that period of time, are you fucking anybody else?
Yep.
Yep.
Okay.
Yeah.
Fun.
Okay.
So why would you have to pursue that?
Were you smashing somebody else when you made him wait those three months?
No, because we were going out like...
Okay, what about you?
It wasn't a thing.
No.
No?
Stop the cap!
What about you?
No.
If I'm dating you, I'm dating you.
All my time is on you.
Stop the cap!
I don't got time.
Why'd you make him wait three months then?
What do you mean?
Why would I make him wait three months?
Because that's how you'll know what a guy's intention is.
I have to read him first.
I have to try to make him put in a little word, chase a little bit.
But I also said, depends on the man.
Were you saying anybody else when you were making the guy wait for three months?
No, I wasn't.
Yes, but that was when we are talking and going on dates.
Like, I made him wait three months to hostess.
But in total, a lot of guys that chased me for three years.
What about the guy in the bathroom on the airplane?
What about the guy in the bathroom on the airplane?
Was that three months?
No!
Android!
To be honest, that was my photographer.
I've known him for like two years.
That sounds like a porn movie, right?
We are walking in Dubai, so yes.
I got some content on the plane.
Have you heard the rumors about the girls that go to Dubai?
Yes, I heard of it.
And I went with my own money, so...
So you've never...
No.
I did not wait for the...
I didn't wait for the...
Let me smile your breath.
Oh my god, she fucking did it.
She did it.
What the fuck?
Alright, uh, okay, what about you?
Were you seeing someone in that three months that you made someone that made him wait?
Um, no, like, um...
So that three months you didn't see anyone else you're only seeing him.
What about you?
No, not seeing anybody.
When you made him wait for three months?
Alright, what about you?
I mean, if you're exclusive to that person, you guys are going back and forth dating, no.
Or me.
What did you do?
If I'm going back and forth dating, no.
Absolutely.
So you made the guy wait three months and you weren't seeing anyone else?
Yeah.
Stop the cap.
Stop the cap.
Why was I saying I can wait three months?
I was talking to other people.
Okay.
What about you?
That month that you made your guy wait?
No, I'm a little Delulu, so if we talking, you're already my boyfriend.
She said Delulu.
We'll go together.
What I've come to realize is if a girl makes you wait more than a couple of weeks, nine out of ten times she's talking to someone else and you're potentially hooking up with someone else.
And she's weighing out the options.
And she wants to see if you're going to beat him in most aspects.
I know some of you guys here are kind of trying to be nice about it, but I guarantee some of you girls here are saying you made a guy wait two, three, six months, whatever.
You were talking to other men in between.
He was the only guy.
And the only reason why I made him wait three months was because I wanted to get to know him better.
But while you were getting to learn him better, you were talking to other guys.
No, I wasn't talking to other guys.
But maybe I was talking to him.
Hell no.
I was not.
But don't you get to know him bad.
Don't you get to know him better by smashing though?
That's the ultimate way.
Honestly, okay.
One at a time.
Because we say filter and I was like, we're planning on dating.
So for you to date someone, you need to know that person.
If not, I would have let her smile on the first night.
Isn't that crazy?
The guy that's going to do something has to wait.
The guy's going to be a fun night.
This is the same night.
That's crazy.
But fresh, fresh, that's a fucking super important red pill point, isn't it?
The guys need to fucking pay attention to.
What she's saying is basically the player, who she's just gonna, you know, she's just gonna have a bit of fun with, she'll smash on the first night.
If you're presenting as the serious boyfriend, you're gonna have to wait fucking three months to get a, you know, blowjob on the plane.
Because she doesn't care if the player or whoever is around or not around.
Whenever we're ready, like...
Okay, but there's a period of time.
If he happens, he happens.
I once made a girl wait 120 minutes.
Damn, that's vicious.
If it's a one-night stand, I don't see why I gotta make the guy wait.
If it's a one-night stand, that's kind of what it can do.
How long did you make the guy that you're currently with wait?
I made him six months ago.
How long did he have to wait until he hooked up with you?
Six months.
Two days.
I stayed with him the whole week.
I got kidnapped.
Look at the smile.
I got kidnapped.
Yes.
He kidnapped me.
He asked me if he could have kidnapped me for two days.
Let me go back to the chats.
And we're going 20 and up here, right, Chris?
These came in from before.
Are we going to go to 50?
Yes.
Alright, from this point forward, guys, we're going to go 50 and up because we want to make sure that we keep pushing the show along.
Okay, where we at here?
Cam two times goes, if she uses her looks and beauty to pay her bills, she's not the type of girl that has much skill and you best believe she's getting passed around like a basketball drill.
Oh, okay.
Oh, shit.
The Cizzo goes, "Question for FNF and ladies.
Do you think the legal age of purchasing alcohol should be raised to 30 instead of 21 since women's frontal cortex fully develops on an average age of 24 and you can finally rent your first vehicle at 25?
Love the show.
Keep doing W." That might be a little bit open up comprehension.
I'm not smart enough to answer that.
A lot of vagina.
Okay, a lot of vagina.
He goes, hey, Minor Fresh, I asked this question on Monday's show, but we never came back to it.
A question of ladies, which one do you think a man would choose?
A single mom or a woman with OnlyFans?
Minor Fresh, which one is worse?
Okay.
That's an old one.
Wow.
I'm just going to make it very simple.
Raise your hands.
Which one do you think a man would choose?
A single mom or a woman OnlyFans?
So what do you think is a better option for the guy?
Either a single mom or OnlyFans.
So raise your hands if you guys think the girl with the OnlyFans is a better choice.
Only two of you.
Okay.
How many of you that think the single mom is a better choice?
Is this for marriage, for messing around?
So ladies, I'm gonna make this very simple.
What is better?
A girl that has an OnlyFans or a single mom for a man to take seriously in a relationship?
So I'm gonna go one more time.
Raise of hands for OnlyFans.
Okay.
So that is three girls.
Three.
Okay.
And the other seven, I think of you, right?
Because we got seven girls here?
Yeah.
Okay.
The other seven think it's better for the single mom.
And then Myron and Fresh, what do you think is best?
The answer is no.
Neither.
The answer is no.
Donovan and Troy, you answer that question.
I mean, I'm going to have to go with neither, to be honest.
For a serious relationship, I don't want to be in a serious relationship with somebody who's already got a kid.
No offense, it's just, you know, that's not what I'm about.
And if she's got an OnlyFans...
I also don't want to be in a serious relationship with her.
I'd probably date her.
I mean, whatever.
Who cares, right?
But it probably wouldn't be somebody I would consider for something longer term.
So that would be my answer.
Well, can you even have a real relationship?
Oh, no, he's going to make me now, isn't he?
In this question.
Right, you guys did it to us.
So who would I have a serious relationship with?
Oh, fuck.
I'm going to go OnlyFans.
The reason is because I think when you're taking on someone else's child, you're taking on a child, that's a fucking big deal, right?
The OnlyFans think, look, everybody's got fucking OnlyFans these days.
We're not going to have a choice soon.
You know what I mean?
If we stay in the West.
You can get rid of the OnlyFans.
You can't get rid of a kid.
Exactly.
The internet is forever.
It's forever, but you know.
Say again?
What did you choose?
Oh, neither.
No, I'm not.
Look, check this out.
Because if a man's only two options were an OnlyFans model and a single mom, that means his value is not high enough.
Smart man.
Okay.
We'll move forward from that.
All right.
Where are we at here?
Okay.
Ladies, what do you think if age for sex work is raised to 21?
Do you guys know what sex work is?
And guys, no offense, but some of the questions I've...
We've got some questions that people don't like, so if it's not a good question for the panel, we'll just move on, but we'll acknowledge you and thank you so much for the support.
But we've got to keep the show pushing, right?
Spiral Bomber.
Okay, so we got here...
Spiral Bomber says, didn't Gianna get Frank Castle before?
Did she?
Yeah.
Her.
Not me!
She got kicked off?
Yeah, she did.
No.
It was over.
The show was over.
I think so, right?
This show was over.
It wasn't like that.
Gentlemen, you guys have reached a very important point.
You guys are forgetting girls that you have Frank hassled.
It's getting to that point.
Chris, that's an L, man.
Alright.
Good to see the chick that asked Myron if he was Arabic anyways.
Ladies, would you drop that neck?
Where the fuck?
To pay IRS. To pay IRS. Also fresh, what you call a black priest.
Holy shit.
If divorce was illegal, would you still want to get married?
Myron and Fresh, I've noticed when you highlight previous questions, y'all never go back to them.
Last show, someone asked, is it worse to date a single mom or wife girl?
No, we just did.
You guys gotta keep in mind, man, that we have to obviously keep the show at a certain cadence, and then when there's questions that might not necessarily align with the topic, sometimes we have to skip it, or we don't have time to go back to it.
It's very difficult to run a live show like this.
Fielding questions while keeping y'all entertained and educated.
So, what was it?
The question was...
Shout out to Donovan.
I remember watching The 7 back in 2020.
Looked forward to it on Sunday nights.
Been following Freshly Fit and CGA and a few others ever since.
Shout out to you, bro.
Yeah, those panels were legendary, man.
What was the question from the last one before?
Did he have something else?
Or no, it was IRS, right?
He's asked when girls get fucked for IRS. Come on, man.
Would they drop that in there?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, if divorce was illegal, would women still get married?
Hell no.
That's a simple one.
How many of you would still get married if divorce is legal?
That means you can't leave the guy.
No.
You would still get married?
If I love my man, I love my man.
The rest of y'all know?
There you go.
There's your answer, guys.
That's why you don't get married, bro.
Abort mission.
Body count matters to men, and here's why.
The chains of habit are too weak to notice until they're too strong to break.
Ah, Tai Lopez!
Well said.
By a raise of hands, who has cheated before?
If no one raises hand, let me stop the cap.
How many of you have cheated before?
Raise of hands.
I meant the ladies.
Just so I can get a visual, we got only four girls that cheated on the panel?
How about this?
How about this?
Let me go ahead.
I'm assuming when we say cheat, they're thinking just sexually, like I hooked up or kissed a guy.
Have you ever sexualized yourself on the internet and or to other men while you were in a relationship with a guy?
How about that?
How about that?
Y'all cheated.
That means putting sexy pictures of yourself on the internet.
That means going out with guy friends.
That's what it means.
One more time.
So raise of hands if you've done that before in a relationship.
Did y'all delete your Instagram?
I did y'all delete your Instagram.
What's up?
What's up?
No, I was posting on Instagram.
I got it.
All right, nail game.
You still giving it a reel over here.
You still giving it a reel.
I don't arrest y'all, man.
Yeah, yeah.
You ain't got a lot of kicking.
Just because how we look.
I'm not kidding.
I'm not kidding.
You know what I'm saying is that.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What?
You were going to say something?
Just because how we look, y'all think that we act a certain way or that you think that we capping.
Like, I'm not capping.
I'm not like that.
Well, what you have to understand...
I love him and I respect him.
That's cool.
That's mine.
The question actually was, have you ever sexualized yourself while in a relationship with a guy?
And I said no, and he said all cap.
Okay, well, let me explain.
You can't always judge a book by its cover, but you can most of the time.
It's easy for a girl to be celibate.
It's easy for a girl to be celibate compared to guys.
Yeah, because he was also saying, like, have you ever gone out with a guy friend or posted a sexy picture?
Things like that.
No, like, I don't have an issue.
That means that if you work in the cloud, you're totally fast just cheating.
With all due respect, you're sexualizing yourself right now.
Your boobs are out.
You're on a public podcast with 20-30,000 people watching.
So technically right now, you'd be in violation of what I just asked.
But again, this is what I mean when I say women a lot of times can't connect how men perceive cheating versus how women perceive cheating.
If you sexualize yourself while you're in a relationship with a man, that is cheating to a lot of guys.
No, what if her man lets her, though?
That's not a relationship.
That's not a relationship.
That wasn't a question.
The question was, have you ever sexualized yourself while in a relationship with a guy?
Who asked why does the outfit matter?
Exactly.
That was you.
If your man lets you leave the house like that...
He don't love you.
Yeah, there you go.
There it is.
No, no, no.
She got it.
If your man lets you leave the house dressed like her or her, he's not in you.
He doesn't love you.
He doesn't love you.
Thank you.
Look, you look...
Don't do respect.
You look great, but I would never let my woman leave the house looking like that unless she were with me.
You don't feel secure.
Unless she was with you.
Okay.
I got you.
I got you.
But then you look at women that are dressed...
Hold on.
Wait.
Did you say look at woman?
Women.
Okay.
One woman to...
One man.
Women!
Use the word women, please.
Go ahead.
Women?
Dress?
Yeah.
I was saying, whenever you go out, I mean, let's say you're looking at other women.
Are you looking at someone that is completely covered?
Are you looking at someone that looks good?
I'm looking at someone who looks good.
Exactly.
So, why is it not okay for a woman to look good?
I put it to you this way.
My woman can do whatever she wants.
Because I'm not her father, I can't tell her what to do.
But if she leaves the house looking like that, I will have her bags packed and on the front porch.
The question is like why is it that you feel that she is like going out looking for something if she looks good when she goes out or is it that you don't feel secure with your woman if she is dressed in a certain way?
It's because I said so.
Here's the...
It is!
Ladies, ladies, ladies, ladies, I really need you to listen here.
Turn your brains on.
I said that she can do whatever it is she wants to do.
If she wants to leave...
And listen, you look great, but if my woman wants to leave the house looking like that, I'm not going to tell her, you can't do X, Y, and Z. I'm not her fucking father.
I'm not trying to be.
But if she engages in activities...
That put my relationship at risk, then we are no longer in a relationship.
But dressing a certain way is not an activity.
It's respect.
It's a perception of everything.
Now we're splitting hairs.
If your woman leaves the house looking like this without you, then she's clearly looking for some sort of attention.
That's all there is to it.
That's an opinion.
You're right.
What if she just dressed like this just to be innocent to go out and sell little candy bars?
Fine, the relationship is still over.
I don't care.
That's all there is to it.
Look, I'm never ever going to control my woman.
I can only control what I do.
You can't control women, but you can influence their behavior by what you do.
That's not controlling.
That's not giving a woman ultimatum.
That's giving her choices.
You can either refrain from activities that put our relationship at risk, or you can be in a relationship with me.
But you ain't doing both.
Right, but if your woman respects you, she's gonna make the right choice.
Right.
I think that your woman, as your woman, she should know what is okay with you and what is not okay with you.
Women know.
They know.
I know it's okay with my man.
They know.
Say again?
I know it's okay with my man.
I asked him if he wanted me to wear this outfit or another one and he chose this one.
Congratulations.
If he's okay with that, I mean, that's all good.
If he were a coaching client of mine, I'd be like, well, look, man, that's not something I would tolerate, but hey, do you.
This is what it is.
You sure know why your man likes, what he's okay with, and what he's not.
And if you do it, you do respect him.
Women know the behaviors that put their relationship at risk.
Like, I'm not going to sit here, well, just because I'm wearing a bikini and heels out on Sunset Boulevard doesn't...
Bitch, please.
It is what it is.
Okay, so where are we at here?
15 and up, right?
Yeah.
Not yet?
Okay.
Marco.
Oh, no, no, it's 15 and up.
Oh, but yeah, okay.
Amir, would you rather marry and be loyal to one of these girls or marry fresh?
No, bro.
Those are the kinds of questions we're talking about.
What a strange question.
For the first question, while in a long-term relationship, how long have you gone without giving your boyfriend sex?
Ladies, do you think if a woman is not giving it up to her man, then it's okay for him to seek other options?
Okay, so it's while in a long-term relationship.
Okay, how long have you gone without giving your boyfriend sex?
Alright, we can start here with this nurse and then work our way around.
What's the longest you want in a relationship with a guy?
The longest I've been in a relationship?
No, the longest you went without giving your man sex in a relationship.
Maybe you guys were fighting, I don't know.
Yeah, right.
Or maybe you just weren't feeling it, I don't know.
No, I'm...
She's thinking, which time?
Exactly, what hour?
Did you say power?
What hour?
Oh, God.
Jesus Christ.
Like, maybe two days, I don't know.
Two days?
Yeah.
Okay.
Do you remember why?
Fight or just not time?
Because I took too long at the Panera line.
What?
I took too long at the Panera line.
Panera bread?
Yeah.
And he got into a fight with me over it.
Oh, okay.
But then we made up, so it was quick.
He thought you were cheating?
Yeah, he thought I was cheating while I was waiting at the Panera line getting him his lunch.
Hey, yo, those Panera dudes do have game now.
Don't get it twisted.
What about you?
What's the longest you went without giving your guy sex?
Honestly, sex is something that we don't take away in a relationship.
So that's off limits.
We gotta talk about this shit.
We're not going to bed.
We can be mad, but I'ma still get some dick.
Respectfully.
She a real woman.
What's the longest you've gone?
I didn't.
My last relationship was five years and I didn't hold back.
What about you as long as you went?
I'm on the same page with her.
If my man wants it, I'm giving it up.
It's a we want it type of thing.
Even if you're mad?
What if you're tired from work though?
If I'm tired, got a headache, that's too bad.
I haven't taken an hour.
That's my long-term relationship.
Botox who's sore.
That's bae.
And if I'm tired, I will lay on my side.
Get it in.
What are we doing?
It's a mutual thing.
You know what I'm saying?
This is Batman will stop at red lights.
But you remember, this was the side of the table that said, hey, look, I mean, if he's going to cheat...
You know, you're going to have to learn to deal with that stuff.
But what these two understand is that the only reason why we're in relationships with women, well, the number one reason, is because we get sex.
So when women withhold sex from their men, that's the equivalent of a man saying, you know what, I don't feel like paying the mortgage this month.
If that ever happened, girls would lose their fucking minds.
But then they want to know why we feel some type of way when they close their lives at night.
Nope.
Okay, so you said never, never.
What about you?
What's the longest you've made your boyfriend go without banging?
I don't withhold sex either.
I want it just as bad.
Even if you guys fought?
Come on, man.
No, no, I swear.
That angry sex, though, right?
That's what makes it up.
That's that makeup sex that makes it great.
What about you?
What's the longest you've went withholding from your boyfriend?
When I'm on my period, but I was still getting hit.
For you three, you guys were like saying like, never, never, never.
But I mean, obviously work comes up or maybe you guys just didn't have time.
That's what I mean.
It doesn't have to just be a fight.
It could be like just you didn't see him for a few days.
My man travels for work and I'll still have phone sex with him while he's gone.
Oh, damn!
I'm talking about actual real sex, not phone sex.
She says, my man's gonna get it anywhere he is.
I guess now that we know what it is, what's the longest?
Maybe 24 hours?
What is phone sex?
Phone sex?
Like FaceTime sex?
What is that?
FaceTime sex?
Oh shit.
Hey baby.
All this hate.
So this is serious.
What about you?
What's the longest you've been?
You gon' give it to him.
Yes, I gon' give it to her.
I dare to.
Grab a towel.
Alright, one or two days?
She says this nigga's getting this pussy whether he likes it or not.
What about you?
Never.
I mean, never?
I mean, it's got to be like a day or two.
Except when I was pregnant.
End of pregnancy.
You have kids?
Yeah.
How many?
Two.
Okay.
What about you?
What about you?
That's why more women aren't on podcast.
That's fine.
What about you?
I would say because of travel or something.
How long was that?
Two weeks.
She don't let travel get in the way she flies out to him.
Never.
What's the longest you...
A few days when we don't see each other or when I'm on a period.
That sounds more realistic.
Alright, is it ever appropriate to withhold sex from your guy?
Follow-up question.
No.
Yes?
No?
No.
That's how you lose him.
Real shit.
Yeah.
If there's something going on, yeah.
Like what?
What constitutes?
Wait, is the question for the guy to withhold?
No, from the woman.
Let's be honest, it's typically the female.
the film.
Yeah, we're not withholding sex.
We fucking do.
We don't want to.
That's true.
That's true.
Whatever you're busy.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Ask a question one more time.
Is it ever appropriate for a girl to withhold sex from a man, in your opinion?
Um, yeah.
I mean, women have feminine issues and stuff like that.
Things come up or, you know, period, whatever it may be.
I think that that is justifiable.
Okay, outside of periods or I guess maybe a feminine situation.
Life!
Yeah, but like in general, is it outside of, you know, normal body functions?
That's very delicate.
I don't even know.
You want to say yes, don't you?
I do kind of want to say yes, but I'm also like...
Just say yes.
Her answer says it.
What about you?
Do you think it's appropriate to withhold sex from your man?
No, unless you just found out you're cheating, then you want to see the my chart.
So the answer is actually yes.
So the answer is yes.
Yeah.
What about you?
I think it's okay.
Okay, under what circumstance?
When you're not in the mood?
I'm not in the mood.
Like, I don't have to give it to them.
Well, guess what?
Nope, we don't have to pay the bills either.
I'm not in the mood to pay bills.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm not in the mood to pay your car insurance this month.
I want to say something, because they told the period it was serious.
Me saying that me being on my period is not an excuse for me to not please my man.
I'm winning.
I said it because I can be on my period.
I don't got to fuck him to please him.
I can be hanged here or play with myself.
I don't got to fuck him.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Okay, so the question, do you think it's ever appropriate to withhold sex from a guy?
Yes or no?
Say no.
Yes or no?
No.
What was the question?
Is it ever appropriate for you to withhold sex from your guy?
Yes or no?
No.
Okay, why not?
Because he's going to go get us somewhere else.
What about you?
No.
Same reason.
If you don't give it to him, he's going to find somebody who will.
Okay.
What about you?
Same.
You said the same?
Yeah.
Don't withhold sex.
Okay.
What about you?
Yes, I'm withholding.
Okay.
Under what circumstances?
If you're being a little bit too disrespectful, you ain't getting nothing tonight, homie.
She's punishing you.
Like if I come home and I was like, bitch, where's my dinner?
Am I getting any pussy?
You got a little bit too slick out the mouth.
So you're gonna watch me do something else, but I ain't gonna give you nothing.
That's cool.
No, no, that's cool.
Your bags are packed.
I'll have an Uber beer in 15 minutes.
Appreciate you.
I want to give my take and I'll give you guys here a chance to respond.
I genuinely believe that if a woman doesn't give you sexual access, she's useless.
Yep.
And the reason why is because men really don't deal with women for anything else except for sexuality.
Maybe we care about your personality to talk to you, but the sexuality and your looks come first and if you can't provide that, you're effectively useless.
Are you in a relationship?
Are you single?
That's why.
Are you single?
That's a good question.
Why does that matter?
No, no, it's just a question.
Because I know why you're asking that question because I know women better than they know themselves.
But what I'm asking is...
What's your take on that?
Agree?
Disagree?
Disagree.
Facts.
Okay, you disagree.
Who else disagrees with that statement?
That a woman's useless if she doesn't give sexual access?
No.
Sexual access to her boyfriend or husband.
If I give my man everything else he desires for me.
Let me say this one more time, because some of you guys didn't hear.
I said if a woman doesn't give her man sexual access, she's effectively useless.
How many of you agree or disagree with that?
How many of you disagree?
Raise of hands with disagree.
Okay.
Why do you disagree?
Because I don't want to be looked at as just a sexual object.
I'm smart.
I'm educated.
I can maintain myself.
So I want to be looked at for my other qualities.
And then secondary, she's great sexually.
Let me ask you this.
I wish women would look at my qualities.
I'm a good video game player, but women don't tend to care about that.
Right, but maybe women will look like, oh, well, he's a good provider.
He brings something to the table.
I think that's the main thing.
Do you think men value education and provisioning like women do?
I think they should.
We should.
I think they should.
We don't operate on should, could, and would.
Do they?
Yes or no?
No, they don't, but I think they should.
So, since they don't, wouldn't it be in your best interest to operate in what men actually like?
Yes.
If you're trying to keep them, sis.
So you disagree because you think you should be valued in your education, whatever, but you know men don't typically value that.
Okay, why do you disagree?
We don't care.
I disagree because there's a lot more to a partner than just hooking up.
Of course.
But what is the predominant reason that men deal with women?
For sex.
I'm not going to generalize all men because I have a good one and he's a lover boy.
Aye, aye, aye.
Keyword, you said lover boy.
Yeah.
What is making love?
Sex.
Yes.
Sex.
Sex.
You know, he likes, like, if I, you know, cook, carino, like, he's not all, like, that's not the only thing he cares about.
Yeah, but what is the predominant reason that men deal with women?
It's not only sex.
Really?
How about this?
How about you stop giving your guys sex for three months and see if he sticks around?
Exactly.
There you go.
You think he'll stick around?
Nope.
No, he won't.
I honestly believe he will.
No, he won't.
I don't know why all of y'all think that your men are like, I need to give it, if not, you know, like, he'll hook up other girls.
And you guys said that they cheat anyway, so if you don't want to give it to him that night...
I never said that.
No, I forget who said that.
Oh, yeah, they do.
I know the woman I am, and if he knows that...
Then he'll respect me.
Stand on it.
Let's do a test.
Don't give him sex for three months and see what happens.
They were just in the beginning.
Hold on.
Are there three months in there?
No, no.
Stand on it.
For three months.
All right.
I'll come back on the podcast for three months and I'm going to be like...
Fresh, her boyfriend's watching this now.
Take a break.
Because you said it shouldn't be that way, but men deal with women predominantly for sex.
Who else disagree with me?
You did, right?
Go ahead.
Miss Flexible.
So you don't even know what you're disagreeing with?
I do disagree, though.
Okay, what are you disagreeing with?
Incredible.
Because I'm sorry.
It's been so many thoughts right now.
I'm not going to lie.
Let me sum it up for you.
Look, looks and sex are important to us.
Hold on.
It's not that your personality traits are not important to us, but you could be the kindest, most feminine, submissive woman who can cook and clean and believes in traditional values, but if you're 400 pounds with two chins and a mustache, I'm not going to find out.
Right?
So what you guys have to understand is that, yes, listen, men, we objectify you.
Myron says it all the time.
We look at you guys as sex objects.
Women look at us as success objects.
And that's okay.
Men, we are predominantly motivated by sex.
That's why we pursue women, because if I'm living with a woman and she's doing everything for me except for having sex, we're just roommates.
And I'm not gonna pay my roommate's bills, so yeah, I gotta get the sex.
And if I decide not to pay the bills that month, then my woman's gotta have a right to be like, yo, what the fuck?
As a man, are you okay with being sexualized?
Yeah, but men are sexualized.
Men are also...
Men are also objectified, though.
If they're not objectified in quite the same way, but they're still objectified.
Who else disagreed with me saying that women are useless if they don't give you sexual access?
Who else disagreed?
You raised your hand when I said who disagrees.
Are you joking?
No, I'm not.
But I did not disagree.
I said I would give my dude sex.
I never disagreed with that.
No, no, no.
I said, if a woman doesn't give her man sexual access, she's useless.
And then I said, who disagrees with that?
And you raised your hand.
She didn't know what the question was.
Myron, let's move on.
Why'd you disagree?
Go ahead.
I disagree because there is times where your woman is your partner and that can be in business.
That could be someone that motivates you.
That could be someone that contributes creative ideas.
Okay, you don't need motivation.
Okay, so you said a couple things.
Business and then what else?
Motivation?
Motivation, ideas, getting creative, you know?
Like, sometimes your partner is sure, in bed, whatever.
Well, look, this is a fallacy that women love to run around.
Women don't build, they move in.
Girls want a guy that's pre-assembled.
They typically don't want to build.
Okay, that's fantastic for you, but most women don't want to do that.
Most women want a guy to be pre-assembled and come pre-packaged.
Another thing, too, is that if a man needs his girl for motivation, he already failed.
No, no, not need.
But sometimes that's your partner.
Sometimes you work together.
So if he doesn't need you, then you're expendable.
Yes.
Okay, but then you could say the same thing about a woman that doesn't need a man, right?
Period.
Well, here's the thing.
Women's happiness is very contingent upon being in relationship with a man.
A man's happiness is not contingent upon that.
No, sir.
Women get pleasure from being in a relationship with a man, typically.
Women value relationships a lot.
You know, every girl's dream, right?
There's a reason why every girl wants to walk down an aisle in a white dress or have children or play house, right?
When you look at little girls, when they play games, what they do, those games are typically social.
They're playing with Barbies, playing house.
Men don't do that?
We don't play house.
They don't have action figures.
They don't imagine themselves as superheroes.
But it doesn't entail a female.
Do you understand?
Like, when men, when boys are growing up, they play with other boys and it's about competition.
Transformers.
Gobots.
It's competition and hierarchy.
Like, men strive for status and income and being the best.
And then a woman is a byproduct of that.
Women, on the other hand, are trying to get the best guy.
We're not the same.
So a man derives pleasure from success and changing the world.
A woman derives pleasure from being with a man that changes the world.
But wouldn't it depend on the caliber of the man?
Because right now we're not all dealing with a man that has money, that has high status and all this stuff.
I understand that, but if a woman has the beauty and the ability to do so, she will get the best man that she can get.
Absolutely, I agree.
But that's what I'm trying to say is that men and women look for different things in opposite gender.
Absolutely.
So you're saying, oh, I don't need a man.
Actually, you really do.
It's just that when you're young, you can say stupid shit like that because there's a bunch of guys coming up to you.
But as you get older and you age, you realize, damn, a career and money doesn't really give me the same satisfaction as I thought it would.
Companionship goes a long way.
Yes, it does.
Okay.
And no one wants to be alone.
Like, let's be real.
No, but I said partner.
I said partner, right?
Yeah, I'm not in a partnership.
I'm in a relationship.
I used to be one of those females that used to say, I don't need a man.
I do everything on my own.
But now I see why I do need a man.
I do need a man.
I don't need a man.
That's not what I said.
I didn't say that I don't need a man.
I think what women need to understand is that women need men whether you realize it, know it, like it, or not.
Everyone needs everyone.
No, no, that's not true.
Listen, man.
For procreation, yes.
Men need women and women need men.
But as far as the way the world works, if somebody were to snap their fingers and all men would disappear, the world would go to shit in about 10 minutes.
If they did the same and women would disappear, the world would go to shit, but it would take a little bit longer.
You understand what I'm saying?
That just goes to show that men and women, we value different things.
Why do you disagree with that?
Because she's a feminist and that's what she has to do.
No, no, no.
Why do you specifically disagree with that?
Because I feel like with men, you're always trying to be the best.
You always want to be better.
I believe that it would turn into a war a little bit quicker than women.
I feel like women would...
Oh, come on.
You know when you get a bunch of women working together?
You know when you get a bunch of women working together?
It's a fucking cat fight.
It's a fucking bitch fest.
Now you're working with those kind of women.
They're all those kind of women.
Hold on, hold on.
The other thing, too, you've got to understand is that men control like 95% plus of infrastructure type jobs.
So like electricity, sewage, all the things that you've come to learn and love in the modern world.
Like those things would go like that if men were disappeared.
But if women disappeared, we wouldn't be able to continue in society.
That's true.
But things would still work.
Yeah, we'd go extinct.
You know, because there's no women.
And you're forgetting emotions.
Let's say you were the leader of a country and you got mad at the president from another country.
You may bomb them.
Because you feel like it.
Listen, you laugh and chuckle and roll your eyes, but women are never chemically identical from one day to the next.
And you guys know it.
Listen, man.
Look, look, look.
We love you ladies, man.
We love you.
But this is why men lead and women follow.
Because men, if we're not doing drugs, we are chemically the same every single time.
Yes, there are certain situations in our lives where our emotions fluctuate.
But a woman's emotions fluctuate like this.
Typically, a man's emotions fluctuate like this.
You don't want the leader of the free world to be here.
You want the leader of the free world to be like that.
That's why men lead and women follow.
It doesn't make men better than women or women better than men.
We have our roles and that's the way they are.
The Creator created us to lead and follow.
And here's another thing too.
The reason why I say women are useless outside of sex is because women don't offer much utility to men outside of sex.
Women only respect and give the best to men that they're sexually involved with.
So that's why I always say a woman can only serve two masters.
It's either her man or her job.
Which one are you going to submit to?
If she submits to her man, she's simply going to be happier and she's going to give that guy the best.
But she's also giving that man sexual access.
This is why guys that are in the friend zone with women don't get good treatment from them.
They still end up having to be a good friend and give her that masculine energy without getting anything in return.
So what I'm saying is that in general, women are fairly useless if they're not giving you sexual access.
Because, I mean, if I'm going to be honest, women suck at most endeavors in human pursuit.
Agreed.
What do you mean?
Now I disagree.
Okay, what do you disagree with specifically?
I disagree because all of you came out of a woman.
And?
All of you came out of vagina.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
When I said that women suck at most human pursuits, I mean as in things that both genders can actually do.
Like physical?
Like physically and education?
Yes.
For example, if you look at men's sports versus women's sports, women's sports suck.
No one cares.
Men's sports, people actually watch.
Men can't have children, so therefore that's not an even plan.
Okay, what about education?
Aren't there women in the military?
What do you mean by education?
It's...
Okay, and...
I'll answer it.
Talk about that in a second.
In research, it says that men mature later than women.
Women mature at 18.
Well, you said a little while ago, like, education doesn't matter for you.
What?
You said education is not like a big thing.
And you said that women can't...
Yeah, female competence isn't important, which is why women suck at so many things.
Right, so education isn't a factor?
Men typically don't care for it when it comes to picking a partner.
So does that mean that you're slow?
So men don't care about being slow.
That's not what we said.
You get a lot of guys.
I do.
You do, right?
No offense, but you're fairly incompetent.
No, I'm not.
Yeah, you are.
During the course of this conversation, you had to re-ask questions, you don't necessarily know what's going on, you can't articulate an argument, and it's fine, but you're still able to get sexual access and get men.
Matter of fact, you said earlier that I'm around a bunch of guys that have status.
But you're not a very competent person, but you're only able to do that because you're a female, which proves my point.
Women don't have to be competent, okay?
I actually do.
But when you're around a whole bunch of people that are just saying, like, random stuff...
You're saying random stuff!
I'm not saying anything random.
Like, you just said that we...
You have not said one profound thing during the course of this podcast.
Okay, you just said that women...
Can't do anything outside of sex.
That's not what he said.
You can't even say back what I said correctly.
You're just talking a talk, no offense.
Please pay attention to specifically what I'm saying.
What I am saying is that in human endeavor, women suck at most things.
Men are superior to women in almost every human endeavor.
Can you give me an example of those things?
Men are physically superior to women.
If you look at most geniuses, they're men.
If you look at all modern day creations, they're created by men.
The world that you live in, that you get to enjoy, was created by men, not women.
And get this, as far as education is concerned, just because you're educated doesn't mean you're smart.
There are a lot of people out here with two degrees that's dumb as a fucking flat tire.
And women dominate all the useless majors.
Thank you.
They absolutely dominate the most useless majors and they dominate the most useless professions that don't necessarily benefit society.
You were saying military, right?
Yeah.
Women are useless in combat.
Yes.
If we're going to use that argument.
I would argue, I don't think women should be in combat positions in the military at all.
I don't even think they should be police officers.
And the reason why is because you're only as strong as your weakest link.
So if a woman, right, is weaker and she can't carry a 200 pound soldier to safety, well, guess what?
Now we need two soldiers to do that.
Or, when a woman gets injured because men have a natural protector instinct, he's gonna put himself in a compromising situation to protect that girl.
That's why for the longest time, women weren't allowed in infantry, and I think it should stay that way.
I don't think women can handle combat.
And then on top of that, they're captured, God forbid, what's gonna happen to them.
And all the girls are bodybuilders.
What does that have to do with anything?
Are you serious?
What?
Hold on!
I was just saying that because of what you said earlier about the carrying the...
Stop the show!
Stop the fucking show!
Boom!
I literally articulated to you why women shouldn't be in common.
And I get that.
And I get your point.
And I get your point.
I have a quick question.
Why is it so important for you guys to be doing masculine activities?
Why do you want to be in the military?
Why do you want to be a bodybuilder?
Why don't you want to do what women have to understand, and this is the greatest lie feminism has told women, is that feminism has told women that femininity is a weakness.
That's why everybody wants to be a fucking bodybuilder and join the military and be a boss babe.
No, that's not what the world needs.
We have enough of that.
They're called men.
Be a woman for crying out loud.
I just want to give her a chance to finish.
So, okay.
You're saying, what?
Bodybuilding?
Oh, you said that women can't do the same as men, and she was just saying.
That girls can't do the same as men.
I didn't say that they can't.
Actually, I'm saying everything that a man can do, a woman can actually do.
They just suck at it more.
They don't do it at the same level that a man does.
So if you take female sports and male sports, female sports suck.
No one cares.
The WNBA is subsidized by the NBA. Okay?
No one really gives a shit about women competing or doing anything because that's not what men care about.
Men don't care about your education.
They don't care about your money.
They don't care about your competence, clearly.
So, I mean, realistically speaking, women suck at everything because they don't have to be good at anything.
That's the truth.
Listen, women don't even care about women's sports.
You think Kim Kardashian is at LA Sparks games?
Nah, she's courtside with the Lakers, man.
Wait, who?
Kim Kardashian?
Wait, LA Sparks?
What?
So anyway, do you guys see what I'm trying to say now?
When I say women are useless in a relationship if they don't provide sexual access, it's because...
That's mainly your main commodity, and people get angry at me for this, but the reality is the reason why men deal with women is for sexual access.
We don't care about your money, your competence, your accomplishments.
No one cares for that.
And this is why women...
Because women are actually not incentivized to be competent in social situations.
No way.
I mean, Jesus Christ, man.
I mean, some of the girls I've dated, even this fucking year, I mean, you go out with some fucking girls and they are just...
It's just unbelievable.
They're fucking dumbasses, and the kind of shit that they do in public, because they can get away with it because they're pretty, and they've been allowed to get away with it, and they don't have to follow any kind of fucking decorum or anything.
You want to hear something funny, Troy?
There was a study done.
The higher a woman's IQ, the lower likelihood that she'll get married.
The higher IQ. For every point it goes up, the ability for her to get married goes down, the chances.
But for a man, the higher IQ, the higher chance of getting married.
So, I mean...
I'm not trying to...
I know correlation is a causation, but the reality is that men don't value competence in women.
That's why a dumb girl can be on a yacht with a millionaire, but it's not going to operate the other way around.
And the reason why is because women aren't necessarily incentivized to produce.
We all have our roles to play, but yeah, honestly speaking, guys don't really care about all the other activities.
It's more like the sex on the table.
Cool.
So that is why...
Bring my argument full circle.
That is why if a female doesn't give you sexual access, she's useless.
Because it is her main commodity.
And she can't really provide you anything else as a man.
And if you stop, you might leave.
Three months.
Anybody have an argument for that?
I can save your life tomorrow and it doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't matter.
How are you going to save my life tomorrow?
How would you do that?
You can come into a hospital tomorrow and I will save your life.
It's actually a doctor that's going to do it, not you.
No, that's what you think.
That's what you think.
Are you one of these?
Oh, you're one of those nurses that think you're smarter than doctors.
No, I'm not.
My bad.
I'm not, but I'm an ICU nurse who's gotten a little bit of experience.
And I'm with you because that is a very nurture.
See, women nurture, men protect.
Agreed.
I just think that...
Look, man, I just think that...
So I work with my physicians, not against them, but I want to be, you know, validated as a woman that's a little bit smart.
No, no, no, no, man.
No, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Women...
Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Women don't want to be valued for their intellect.
Women don't even want to be loved.
You guys want to be fucking desired.
Because if you're not desired, nothing else is possible.
Stop it with all this, I want him to love me.
No, you want him to want to fuck you.
Because if he doesn't want to fuck you, he'll never love you.
Ladies, listen...
You can't want both?
No.
You can't want both.
Ladies, you have to understand.
That was a crazy quote right there.
Your femininity, please stop interrupting.
Your femininity is the most powerful force in the fucking universe.
And so many women throw it away trying to act like men.
39 years old with fucking three law degrees, they wonder why they don't have a man.
Just be a woman, man.
And in this day and age, it's not that hard.
Being a stay-at-home mom is not even hard these days because all of the chores are pretty much done for you.
Like, just think about it.
Think about how much more attractive you'll be if you just act like a lady and do feminine things.
Dude, your life will change.
Yeah, absolutely.
But also, we want to keep the focus on sexual selection right.
It's laudable to be a nurse.
It's fucking fantastic.
That's amazing that you're doing that.
And women do amazing things.
But in the context of sexual selection, do guys give a fuck about that?
No.
I mean, I've been out with some...
Fucking incredibly dumb girls.
And I've been out with some actually very intelligent women.
And the level of intellect, it hasn't made a great deal of difference in terms of my enjoyment of that relationship, if that makes sense.
That's a good question.
You answered my question.
That was my next question.
What?
If it changes you?
If it makes a difference for the man.
Personally, for me, I like to have an intelligent conversation as much as anybody, but it doesn't make a massive difference.
What makes a difference for me is the vibe and the chemistry.
If the chemistry is there, I don't really give a fuck if she's got a degree or if she's fucking working in Walmart.
You know what I'm saying?
That's not what it's about.
I think the only time, I think a woman's education and utility and usefulness, I think it comes into play when you're in a solid relationship, right?
If a man is looking for a relationship, if he's looking for those things, yes, looks and sex, they do matter.
But, you know, there are other things that we want and need from you.
You just have to understand that it just doesn't always work out the way you want it to.
I think they prioritize differently.
I think for a guy, if you want a girl to be with you long term, he's going to want to obviously have looks, sex on the table, but it's more like, okay, I have a program, are you going to follow my program?
If not, what's the point?
And here's a sacrifice men have to make.
If you want to be in a long term, the shorter term relationship you're looking for, the hotter the girl can be.
So if you're looking for a girl that's going to be your ride or die...
Guys gotta quit looking for eights, nines, and ten.
You need to look in the five, six, seven range.
And even that might be a little high.
They don't wanna hear that, Donovan.
They don't wanna hear that, man.
Are you saying five or six?
No, but I'm saying these guys need a little bit more of realistic expectations.
Okay, so besides looks and says, what else is a man looking for in a woman?
And honestly, we can't get mad if they say that we're useless because that's what it is that they're looking for.
The same way bitches are talking about, if you can't provide for me, keep it pushing.
So why is the double standard you get mad at men?
If we only go for sex, y'all shouldn't get mad at us because we look at y'all as an ATM. If your man stop paying your bills tomorrow, are you staying with him?
We all happy.
Hey, if your man stop paying your bills tomorrow, are you staying with him?
Let him not pay bills for three months.
No, you're not.
Be fucking for real, sis.
Be fucking for real.
If your man stops paying your bills by choice because, oh my god, I'm the king of whatever the fuck, you're leaving.
Guess what?
Because that man now is useless.
Yeah, because now he's useless to you.
The same way if you're not fucking him, you're useless to him.
We just have different shit that we're looking for.
Men don't want sex.
We need sex, okay?
And a lot of guys like to talk shit about sex workers, OnlyFans, strippers, pee stars, etc., etc.
Listen, man, I would never wife those women up, but those women save lives.
And I'm not being facetious here.
Those women save lives because, guys, listen, I don't know if you guys know this, and I'm not a big stats guy, what is it, like, only 40% of men throughout world history has ever reproduced.
That's true.
60% of men have never reproduced.
Ladies, 99% of women have reproduced.
What that means is that you guys are making the selections based on genetics and all these other kind of things.
It's all the same thing across the board, man.
Real quick, because you mentioned education and being smart and that type of thing.
I think education only matters to men if it benefits them.
But the reality is education and a career typically is an obstacle.
Because if I make a lot of money or I'm successful and you have a career as well, well, we're both going to be really busy.
You're not going to necessarily have time to wait on me and do what I need.
You're not going to necessarily fill that assistant role, which a lot of guys want their girl to be, to be like a companion and help them.
Because you're going to be more focused on your stuff and men don't want that.
I don't want to date another me.
Really?
That's the relationship that I... Well, you know I've had the relationship with Devin for a while.
Devin is my...
She's my assistant.
I'm basically...
We're basically Tony Stark and Pepper Potts, only Tony Stark is a little bit richer than I am, and I'm black.
Other than that, she handles everything.
She handles all of the travel, all of the...
She handles everything behind the camera.
That makes her incredibly valuable to me.
But I would not have gotten with her if she were not sexually attractive and did not give me sex.
I think, Donovan, you make a good point.
Because obviously the situation, the setup you've got with Devin is obviously a great example of how a woman's intelligence and her competency and everything else is a huge asset in your relationship.
But I also agree...
If you're looking at hookup culture, if you're looking at guys just out there wanting to get laid, or even date casually, the intelligence, it doesn't fucking mean anything.
And to be honest, for me, the main fucking thing, really, it's not even so much intelligence.
It's like, can I chill with her?
Is she fucking cool to be around?
Is she going to give me a hard time about shit?
You know what I'm saying?
And the more we're compatible on that level, the better.
Her level of intellect, I don't really care about that.
Let me put a perspective for the ladies so they can really understand and grasp how little men give a fuck about this shit.
Most men would take a girl that has one or two bodies, dumb, Follows his lead over a girl that has 10 bodies, college educated, and is opinionated.
Absolutely.
Hold on, hold on.
I want that to let that sink in.
It's absolutely true.
Let that sink in.
Most guys will take a girl that has one or two bodies, is dumb, but follows his program over a girl that's 10 bodies, educated, and opinionated.
Right here.
That should tell you right then and there.
Men don't give a fuck what you think like that.
And there's one coming.
There we go.
Peace.
Peace.
Peace!
Peace!
Because he comes home, no nagging, no arguing.
Oh, another thing, too.
You guys want to hear a dirty little secret on why men don't care about your opinions?
Because women live life on easy mode.
So why the hell do I care what you think?
I'm going to be honest.
A girl can open up an OnlyFans and make 10k a month, and since giving her money, women live life on easy mode.
If you play chess, the queen can move in a million different directions any amount of spaces she wants.
But if the king dies, the game is over.
So the reality is that since women live an easy life, men don't value your opinion like that, unfortunately.
And I'm just telling you guys how men really feel.
This whole mansplaining thing, it comes from reality.
Men look at it like, whoa, I have a way harder existence than she does.
Why the fuck do I think what she cares?
And here's the other thing as well I want to say real quick.
I feel bad for women that are attractive and smart because you're never going to be taken seriously.
You're never going to be taken seriously.
Why do you say that?
Why do you say that?
Because most good-looking girls are sluts, sweetheart.
Or stupid.
Or stupid.
That's why.
Let's just keep it real.
Let's go to a meeting or you go to an event where it's businessmen.
To be honest with you, all they say is sex.
Even if you're smart, you have to prove yourself way harder because you're a woman.
And even still, we still won't take you that seriously.
That's just how it is.
Same time for you, titties.
I tell girls, if you're young and hot, lock a guy down because realistically speaking...
Use that to your advantage.
You have the most negotiating power when you're young and attractive.
Myron, listen, how many women have thrown away their one chance at true happiness by starting an OnlyFans?
Dude, there are so many beautiful young women who could be married to a zillionaire.
Nope, they want to sell pictures of the butthole for $4.99 per month.
Unbelievable.
With a discount for the first session.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Another question.
What does doing Oli fans or working in the clothes has to do with a girl?
Like being a good girl now.
A high-value man is not going to want to wife up a woman who's done those things.
But it's always a sorry behind.
They don't care to hear your fucking stories, sis.
Well, not only that, a woman is a reflection of a man.
Think of Nina Agdoll.
Logan Paul is getting dragged because, well, now everyone knows that Nina...
I call her Nina Ragdoll.
She's raggedy as hell.
And Logan Paul is getting clowned because of it, because his fiancee is a super hoe.
Once you start OnlyFans, once you start going on boat parties and all that, you guys have to understand you're disqualifying yourself immediately from the kind of men you want.
Just refrain from those activities, man.
That's all I'm saying.
I think most women that do OnlyFans are not bad people.
The problem is, it's their perception.
And the problem as well is, those videos are online forever.
So let's say you meet a guy, he's actually into Alexa a lot, Here's a video of you getting fucked online.
It's kind of weird.
It's like, what the fuck?
If you have kids with that person and then your kids are going to see that.
And at that point, you're kind of like, yo, this chick's a hoe because she's getting fucked online.
Even though you might be a good person, the perception is really bad.
I think that's a really good point.
I think that's a really good point for us because it's like, these are bad people.
It's not saying any of these people are bad.
It's fucking great.
And to be honest, you know, if you can make money doing that, I was dealing with a girl.
Yeah.
Last, the other week, and she was telling me she's just got a small Twitter account, and guys just send her money for, like, pictures and shit.
If you can make money doing that, I don't blame anyone for doing that.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
But, it is a problem when you're looking for that long-term with the high-value dudes.
Yes.
I'm gonna put it to you guys this way.
You guys are all attractive women here, at least most of you.
You guys have been given, seriously, the attractive women, you have been given a lottery ticket.
A lottery ticket.
Chris Rock said this best.
There's nothing more powerful than female beauty.
He's 100% right.
What you have to understand, ladies, is that you get your lottery winnings up front.
You don't have to be a genius.
You don't have to be a rocket science to get the highest value man.
You can.
Here's the problem.
You can go to school and be a boss babe, but think about most of you guys are in your 20s.
How much, what percentage of the lottery winnings is left over?
Some girls, by the time they get to 21, they might have 90%.
Maybe they get to 25, they're at 50%.
By the time they get to 29, 30 years old, they don't have as much of that sexual currency.
And when they start to notice the quality of the men hitting on them going down, or what Myron says, they start to buy their drinks, that's when women all of a sudden say to themselves, well, now I need to go out and find the man I need.
Every time you go out and find a man you want for all the quote-unquote wrong reasons, you're using up a little bit more of your lottery money.
And a lot of women think that they get lottery on the front and the back end.
No, baby.
No.
If you're young and hot and you become a P-star, great.
That's your winnings up front.
If you're young and hot and you get married to a millionaire, a billionaire, great.
You cashed out.
You have an annuity.
So every woman, your sex is for sale.
How much you demand for it is really up to you.
If to get the pussy, you need a ring and a ceremony and all that, guess what?
Men are going to value you more.
But if all they need is like cheap liquor and $5 chicken wings in the strip club, then guess what?
You're not getting what you are worth.
And a lot of women say, "Well, I know my worth." Well, how old are you?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't get your lottery winnings twice.
Once you win, you cash that ticket one time, ladies.
One time.
There's one, maybe two opportunities in your life where you meet a man, and a lot of you have met men that you could probably spend the rest of your life with, but because you didn't see them for who and what they really are, you pass them by.
Think about the men.
Think about the men that have come in and out of your life, right?
And the older you get, you start to think, man, I wonder what happened to Rodney in medical school.
Man, I wonder what happened to Thomas in law school.
Dude, a lot of women who get to their 30s and 40s, they say, well, the reason I'm not married is because I haven't found him yet.
I haven't met him yet.
No, you met about five of them when you were in your 20s, but you were too stupid to see it because you're going after men that you want instead of men that you need.
How much of your lottery winnings do you have left?
But this is the problem in the whole fucking culture, isn't it?
Yeah!
Because we want women in particular, you know, want instant gratification.
We want the dopamine hits.
You know, the whole cliche about young women like the fucking bad boys.
They like the adventure.
They like the fucking, you know, the chap, whatever.
And then they get to like 29, 30, 31, whatever.
And then suddenly it's like, yeah, I'm looking for something different now.
I'm not going out as much.
I've moved to the country.
Guilty as charged!
Look at her!
I've moved to the country.
I'm not in the city yet.
I'm not going to the club anymore.
You know, because I'm looking for something different now.
And Rolo Tomasi, Godfather of Manosphere, calls this the epiphany phase.
When you have that epiphany and you realise, you're like, fuck, hang on a minute, I need to get serious here.
I need to, you know, I need to start looking for different things.
So, I mean, it would be better just to look for those things earlier on.
But I don't blame anyone for not, because we're all driven by our biology.
You know, women's biology.
You guys are driven by what you find hot at the time, right?
But it's not the right thing.
Let's not sit here and pretend that being a stay-at-home mom is as exciting as this.
There's no way being a stay-at-home mom is as exciting as this.
But you better fucking believe it's more fulfilling.
I have a question for the ladies, and what I'm going to do is I'm going to ask the question.
I'm going to have you guys think about it, and then I'm going to come back once I read the chats.
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes with men?
Think about that.
I'll come back and we'll start here again.
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes with men before?
Alright?
Alright, I'm gonna read these and then hopefully you guys have some good answers here and we'll see what you guys have to say.
Okay, we got...
Okay, damn, this panel ready to go swimming with them floaties.
I see what you're saying there, my friend.
That's Durag Myron.
Durag Myron.
I appreciate that.
Bender the Offender goes, all these women belong in a Five and Below store.
What the fuck?
A what?
Five and Below store.
He's trying to say that you guys are not that attractive.
Thank you for paying for that comment.
What else?
Thank you for watching.
Mine, I always say this in Castle Club, but I'm trying to prove this urban legend true.
Before and after our show, legend says you spent your time in the bathroom, shadowboxing, in front of the mirror, getting one last pump before taking on these three or fours.
True or false, by the way, this whole panel castle tonight, except Don and Troy.
Even I see getting castle.
No, I don't shadowbox before the show.
I like Shadowbox before the show.
Let's keep going.
And that's for Punisher.
Hey guys, I believe...
And guys, if you guys want to get your chat shown no matter what, go on...
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Hey guys, I believe a great way to communicate the difference between men having a high BC versus body count versus women is...
Body count is when men have sex, they have the same sex with different faces.
But when women have sex, the experience is different from man to man.
Don DeMarco.
Okay, interesting point.
Fresh's dog.
Told you.
Here he is.
My dog's watching.
Damn, these chicks look like they just came from the child support court.
Ratcher's fucked.
Can you tame him, please?
Can you take care of him?
He needs to be tamed.
My dog.
Oh.
Okay.
Someone said the Dominican has been counseled for.
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Would it be fair if they also created weight verification for women?
Oh, I'm crazy.
Well, you'd be surprised at how many girls actually don't use Tinder, my friend.
Emiliano goes, question ladies, who would you take serious?
A guy who was in a 10-year relationship with one body count or a guy with 25 body count never in a serious relationship and for the boys, vice versa, WFNF? Okay, you know, I could run around the table on that one real quick.
Actually, I could just do a raise of hands.
Okay, so ladies, who would you take more serious?
A guy that's been in a 10-year relationship, but he only has one body count, or a guy that's been with 25 different women, but never in a serious relationship.
Raise of hands if you would take the guy that was in a 10-year relationship, but he only had sex with one girl.
Raise of hands.
I'll take the 10-year.
Ten-year?
Okay, so the rest of you will go with the guy that had 25 women.
If it was a girl, I'd go with 25 women.
If he was actually serious.
What?
If he was actually serious.
No, he was never in a serious relationship, but he's had sex with 25 women.
Yeah, but if he's trying to be serious with me or be serious with...
Okay, it depends on if he's trying to be serious.
Okay, well...
Let's suppose that, then.
Let's suppose he would be serious.
Yes.
But he's never been in a serious relationship.
Right.
Okay.
So, one more time.
10-year relationship, one girl, or guy that had 25 girls, no serious relationship, but he wants to be serious now.
Who are you going to give the chance to?
So, raise your hands if you want the guy that only has one body and 10-year relationship.
One, two, three.
Okay.
The rest of you prefer the guy that has a little bit more experience.
Yep.
He's gonna know what he's doing, isn't he?
Now, we can ask the guys that same question.
Who are we going with, guys?
I mean, this is easy.
That one body, she's gotta be a beast.
You learn that one person.
You have to learn that person.
I don't know.
I agree.
Women value experience, men don't.
Yeah, we don't.
Yeah, we don't value our girl to be experienced.
But women value us being experienced.
We'll help her.
Yeah.
Why can't a woman's standards come from what their father did, but a man's standards can't come from what his mother did?
It's always, go date your mom then.
That's a black man right there.
You've been dating too many black women.
That's what that is.
That's what they be saying.
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Vardim goes, my wife and I met on meet time.
Oh, meet me.
That's what I was talking about.
Oh, okay.
Back when it was my yearbook, it was social, but now nothing but a bunch of losers begging for helmet duty.
Also, 50 down and gym membership restarted.
Get it, guys.
Yeah, absolutely, bro.
Being fat is unacceptable.
So, did you give your guy a helmet duty?
No.
What's helmet duty?
Like, giving hair.
Felicio.
The Asian press of Zamunda and Wakanda Fresh would like to ask you how...
Daniela Morris?
Who's Daniela?
That's me.
That's me.
For tacos and back to the crib where he'll meet our dog, Harold, before bedroom from Getterfresh.
Yeah!
Get it fresh!
Get it yesterday!
You said earlier on the show, the death of a relative or a loved one, nothing crushes a man's soul like a woman cheating on him.
There's no greater physical, emotional pain.
One to two.
Then he goes, are we really pedestalizing women that much that a bitch cheating on us is the number one thing that destroys a man's soul?
Losing a loved one is way worse because you're losing a real one.
Check this out.
You've never been cheated on.
Mm-hmm.
You've never been cheated on.
Look, man, we're not pedestalizing women by being honest about them.
You know what I mean?
A lot of people say, well, Donovan, you buy Devin this and you buy Devin that.
That's simping.
No.
The definition of simping is giving an undeserving woman access to your time, energy, attention, and resources.
That's the definition of simping.
Look, I appreciate this guy's super chats, but this is where we get guys who try to be Captain Meathead Red Pill.
Yeah.
I don't do anything for a woman.
I just get what I want.
Gentlemen, women need something out of the relationship too, right?
You have to understand that, but you don't give it to them unless they deserve it.
So no, I'm not pedestalizing women by saying that the worst emotional pain that a man can feel is by getting cheated on by his woman.
You've clearly never been in a relationship with a woman who has cheated on you.
This all comes down to biology.
This isn't like a choice.
It's not like, oh, I pedestalized this woman so much, so I feel really bad.
It's how you fucking feel.
And the reason you feel that is because of your biological construction, right?
If a woman goes and fucks some other dude, right?
It's a different claim.
It's a different kind of thing.
But that directly affects your parental, you know, if there was any potential child there, right?
You can't do a clever red pill argument against the reality of your own fucking biology.
It's just, you know, I think this dude's trying to be clever about it, but he's not.
Yeah, it's almost like it's concern-trolling.
It's almost like he's trying to come off as this, I'm so hardcore and I only fuck nines and tens.
Bruh, if you only fuck nines and tens, you are paying prostitutes, friend.
Alright, shoutout to 3Diglets, I appreciate that.
Oh, we're still on Twitch on Facebook?
Oh, yo, yeah, bro.
What the hell?
He's donated 400 bucks.
Yeah.
No, it's three.
What?
I said 3Diglets.
I appreciate that, my friend.
Actually, I think I still spelled it wrong, but fuck it.
Shoutout to you, 3Diglets.
It's actually 500 total now.
I've been cheated on, I lost loved ones, and it's not close.
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that.
I get what he's saying.
It's a different pain.
Loss of family members means more to him, but it's a different type of pain.
I guess what I meant to say was a different kind of pain, but I just don't like it when guys...
I'm not saying that that's what this guy did, but we have a lot of guys in this community that try to be too alpha.
Look, man, look, if you love a woman, that's not pedestalizing her unless you're a simp.
Like, come on, we're all simps.
I was working with this guy a while back, and he was like, I don't simp for women.
And he said, I was with my girlfriend for three years, and I never once told her she looked beautiful.
And he was, like, really proud of this fact.
I never told her she looked nice once.
I'm like, for fuck's sake, man.
That's crazy, bro.
Don't be a fucking autistic fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we've got to...
Like, we've taken all this red pill stuff.
Yeah, it's helpful.
We need to...
You need to learn it.
But don't go fucking mental.
Don't just dictate your life because of something you've read a fucking, you know, article or heard on a video.
You know what I'm saying?
It's fucking insane.
Real quick, we're going to kill the Twitch and Facebook streams.
Guys, come on over to Rumble or YouTube, man.
Rumble.com slash FreshFit or, you know, YouTube.com slash FreshFit Miami.
But yeah, make sure...
And also, guys, do me a favor.
We got, like, over 20,000 an hour watch right now between the two different platforms.
So go ahead and like the video on YouTube.
Open up a tab and like it on YouTube.
Because we're splitting the audience, but we want to make sure that we hit the algorithm hard.
And comment below for the algo, guys, if you don't mind.
Where we at?
But a lot of guys, I would just say as well, never dated a girl seriously.
So they think it's just one way, but it's multidimensional.
You have to be that guy with frame and game, but understand their emotions as well.
So it's just one thing.
It's deeper than that.
Yeah, way deeper.
Okay, and then where we at here?
Okay, Six Vlone goes...
Men by nature are the more promiscuous gender, but for the first time in history, women closed the gap on cheating due to attention from social media and the advent of extreme feminism.
Fair enough.
Chris Lancaster says...
Who has the OnlyFans manager?
Just one?
Okay.
If the manager could make you ten times the money, would you work with the manager if you want more info?
DM me on his...
Best music 2000.
PH levels are high tonight.
Shout out to the FNF team.
Alright, best music.
And then we got...
uh, come...
Come on some little boy.
Okay.
Wow!
Oh no!
Pause, nigga.
Men have only three basic tests for women.
First, good booty and giving it up whenever.
Second, making sandwiches.
And then third, quiet game.
Okay.
I'd say that by and large female workers' contributions to society is insignificant.
Jobs for women are created primarily to keep them entertained.
Their output is generally next to nothing.
There you go.
That was a fancy way of saying women work useless jobs.
For the lady that said we came from vagina, if we don't nut on you, you can stay all day long in front of the sun with your legs open and you will only get your pussy tainted.
Nothing more.
Tan.
Tan.
Interesting.
Do you want to respond to that?
Vice versa.
Vice versa, like she said.
Yeah, because men and women are totally the same.
Meaning, like, either way it go, even if you nutty me, I still have to push you out after nine months.
You have to develop in my stomach.
I have to appease you.
No one's disputing this.
Why did you bring that up?
No, I'm just saying.
He's talking about...
No, but without the man's sperm, he can't do anything.
Okay, for sure.
Vice versa.
Without him, I can't do anything.
Without me, he can't do anything.
Remember how you made the argument that you all came from a woman?
Yeah, so why do y'all feel so low about women?
You're right.
You're right.
We hate women.
Let's move on.
Thank you.
It's not that I feel low.
It's that I'm able to look at the world how it is and understand that in general, women aren't as good at men as men.
You guys talk about women.
Y'all speak low about women.
Can I finish my sentence?
I said that from looking at the world, I'm not speaking low about women.
I'm saying that I've noticed, and I think everyone can objectively say this, men are better at almost every human endeavor than women are.
You've spoken a little about me because you said that I was incompetent.
I mean, you are.
I'm not.
She's hurting my ears, dude.
Oh, okay.
I mean, you came late.
Well, let me ask you this then.
Let me ask you this.
Have I lied, though?
About me, yes.
Have I lied about the other statements I made?
No, you have not.
You are speaking some facts.
She's growing on me, y'all.
She's growing on me.
Shh.
Whatever.
Like, your voice is annoying too.
I'm sorry.
You're killing me.
You're killing my vibe.
Oh, hi, mate.
All that in my ear is fine.
Is she making fun of you?
That was the wrong guy.
I'm making fun of both.
I'm making fun of both.
She's talking about he's black and he's fucking...
I didn't say anything.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
It's a lot of annoying shit that's going on.
Especially your voice with a mustache.
You mean the beard?
Yeah, the beard, mustache, yeah, yeah, you, yeah, yeah, you.
It's annoying as fuck.
My voice is...
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, sweetheart.
Number one.
Number one.
Number two, I'm not listening.
What you guys are witnessing is the reason why there's a mass exodus of black men leaving black women.
You are literally verifying Every stereotype of the American black woman here in less than two hours.
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
No, I'm not kidding you.
So now you're going to make fun of the way I talk.
Now you're going to make fun of the way I talk.
Now we're going to make fun of the way I talk.
Now we're going to make fun of the way I talk.
You guys are going to make fun of the way I talk.
Sit, sit, sit, tighten up.
Tighten up, tighten up.
Tighten up, tighten up.
That's okay.
Anytime you see a black woman on the internet bitching and moaning about why black men don't want them, take her.
Look at her.
I never cared about a black man not wanting me.
I never once said that.
I just said that he talked about me.
Question for you.
I think I made a fairly true assessment by saying that you're fairly incompetent.
I mean, during the course of the podcast, I gave you a few chances to prove me wrong, but you don't understand.
Myron, she doesn't know what incompetent means, dude.
Understanding and being comprehensive to things that are going around and saying, yes, I do know what incompetent means.
Before I read the Super Chats, I asked all the ladies a question.
Do you remember what their question was?
Yes.
Go ahead.
Basically, if a woman's past affects her on dating a man, in so many words.
Not really, but...
Okay, so say the question again.
You said, does her past or her mistakes with different men affects her from dating a man in the future, basically?
American black women, y'all.
There she is.
American black women.
There she is.
All right, Queen, you got to think.
You got to think before you answer the questions.
Yeah.
You got to think.
Like I said, during the course of the podcast, I would argue that you're fairly incompetent.
That's fine.
I'm just saying, like, it doesn't...
Okay, so say your question again.
You don't say questions, sweetheart.
Who's that section?
You talking about section 8?
Oh, I think it's the chat.
All right.
I'll rephrase the question again.
Did we...
Section 8.
Section 8.
Section 8, Isha.
Okay.
Actually, she did get most of the question right.
Kudos to you.
Question for you, real quick.
In school, did you get a B in English?
Yes, I did.
I got an A in English.
B in biology?
I was A, B on a row.
Yeah, I don't believe that.
Yeah, I can show you my transcripts from college.
3.0 or higher.
You said that just because a person is educated doesn't make them smart.
Oh!
I remember you said that earlier.
Listen, good catch.
Just because a person is educated does not mean they're smart.
Miss Genius here had a 3.0 at DeVry University.
There she is.
Anyway, but no, it's not that I'm speaking long, woman.
I'm just like...
You know just stating fact that like it's true, like men are better than women at almost every human endeavor.
I'm sorry?
The question that you had.
Okay, so you agree with me then?
No, I'm talking about the question that we were on.
No, no, no, I get that, but do you agree or disagree with that point that men are better than women at most human endeavors?
Something.
I'm losing brains over here.
Okay, what are women better than men at?
I feel like my IQ is going down.
Fucking.
Understanding.
Understanding what in particular?
Just understanding a lot of stuff.
Like y'all said that men cheat on women.
Women have to understand why their men cheat.
They're compassionate.
But do most of them understand though?
A lot of these women understand.
They all said that they don't mind their men cheating on them.
No, majority actually said no.
They said no, but they said that they will still stay with them.
That means that they're understanding.
Once again, she was not listening.
What you mean the only one did, sis?
It was about two of us.
laughter The majority said no.
They were acceptive of all men being cheaters, basically.
Not accepting them in a relationship, but they were acceptive of men being cheaters.
They all accepted that men were cheaters.
We were being realistic.
Exactly.
Okay, you're right.
We're wrong.
Let's move on.
I'm not gonna lie.
This is gonna be flashbacks.
Flashbacks to what?
Other girls on the show.
She's talking, but she's shouting.
God damn.
I'm really not trying to shout.
She talks in all caps.
Maybe it's the mic.
No, no.
It's fine.
I just established so many things, but it's fine.
Can we move on to somebody else?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're gonna move on.
Yeah, you still got that.
Don't, ladies, it's fine.
It's our show.
We'll run it the way we want.
Don't forget where the fuck you're at.
I know, that's right.
It's not your podcast.
Shut up.
So, um...
Hey, we'll girls do that shit, man.
Any other chats?
Yeah, we have one more.
One more?
Alright.
Go ahead.
And then we'll do the questions.
And then we'll do the comments and last thoughts, because...
Final thoughts.
Oh, what time is this?
It's past my bedtime.
The last question.
I've been yawning to the podcast.
It's 20 o'clock!
You know, how long it's been since I stayed until 1?
So, okay.
Damn, the black girl is dumb as hell.
I don't usually dabble in the dark, but bet she'll look a lot smarter with my meat stick in her mouth.
Oh, god damn.
And her thoughts?
Wait.
Wow.
I guess they could talk crazy.
Wow.
Wow.
I'm going to show my legs out of my head as I have thick hair.
Alright.
Alright, we're going to start here and we're going to work our way back this way.
Because I don't think we're starting here a bit.
I'm supposed to do it.
Okay.
It's fine.
We'll start here.
Hopefully you guys thought about it during the course of this conversation.
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes with men before?
No.
Why?
Why?
Because I feel like you passed up your opportunity.
You only get a limited amount.
Why are you going to pass up your opportunity?
If you had a right man that was there for you and gave you everything that you wanted, why would you pass up that opportunity?
Like, why are you looking for another opportunity now?
Okay, you're 29.
Do you still think you deserve your dream, man?
Wait, 29?
No, I don't.
I think he left the building.
You said at the top of the show, you are a man, right, that actually won't cheat.
Right.
That's a dream, man.
She knows that's not her dream, man.
That's why she knows.
Because I already had it, and it goes back to the question.
I already had the man.
Why did you leave him?
Seven years.
Why'd you leave him?
It's a long story.
Too long to explain.
It's so simple.
Painful.
Why'd you leave him?
Why'd I leave them?
Because, as a woman, you grow from a man.
Like, I can't just be with a man, and this is just bluntly speaking, that wakes up in the morning, and you're not brushing your teeth.
You're not getting ready for work.
You're not spraying that cologne on.
You're not taking care of what you gotta take care of.
Took your seven years to know.
Seven years to know.
Stupid!
Yeah, he needs a homeless man.
Possible hygiene issues.
It's my fault, but it didn't happen until like after the fifth year when they get a little bit comfortable.
We're from Hylia?
Yeah, Hylia for sure.
No, I'm Cupid.
You are stupid.
The bottom.
The bottom.
We're from Homestead.
Makes sense.
I swear to God, bro.
It's either Kendall, Hylia, or Homestead.
Same shit.
Question for you in particular.
So since you understand that you passed your prime opportunity to get a guy, do you think you're in a position to negotiate and tell a man that he can't cheat on you?
No.
So why do you want a guy that wants you on you then?
Because I can set my expectations.
I can set the expectations high, but I gotta settle for what I gotta settle for.
You were saying that earlier.
She's being humble.
She's learned something during the show.
I learned something during the show.
Thank you.
Alright, here it is.
Alright, what about you?
Do you think a woman still deserves her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes with men before?
No.
She's gonna, at some point, she's gonna have to settle.
And be realistic.
Okay.
Alright, what about you?
I think she does.
I don't think that, you know.
Why?
Because I don't think, like, for me, it's like, I know that the person I'm gonna be with made mistakes too and has a past too.
Oh, not the same, boo.
Your dream, man.
Not the same.
Well, go ahead.
Continue on.
You were saying that because they have, the man's gonna make mistakes too, so it should be fair, like, on both sides?
Yeah.
Do you think a man's past matters as much as a woman's past though?
No.
Nobody pays attention to that shit.
Nope.
I mean, in society's problem, no.
Let me ask you, are you more interested in your man's past or his future?
You personally, in your man.
Do you really care that he fucked 50 girls, or are you more concerned with him making money and taking care of you in the future?
In the future.
Like, I don't care really about his past.
Now, if I were to ask him, without you around, do you think he would care more about your future or your past?
I don't know.
You gotta ask him.
Okay, well, I can tell you 99% sure, because men are very similar.
We all tend to think the same.
He's gonna probably be more concerned with your past than your future.
Women tend to be interested in the future.
Men tend to be interested in the past.
Yes.
Do you think it's the same really, though?
I don't know.
No.
What do you know?
Stupid!
Wait, you're in a relationship now, right?
Yeah.
Is your man of a darker hue?
You already asked me that.
No, I asked her that.
I'm asking you.
You did.
You asked me that instead because of my speed.
Off the air.
I did.
So, is your man of a darker persuasion?
He is.
And how would I know that?
What's on your fingers?
Oh my gosh, we already went over this.
Queen of spades, y'all.
Just put it out there.
So you said before, yes, a woman deserves, even if she made bad decisions, to still have her dream man.
So you're saying because everyone's past doesn't matter?
Yeah, I think everybody has a past.
So it's like some are worse than others.
Especially to you.
But, you know.
But we just discussed how a woman doesn't care about a man's past, but a man definitely cares about a woman's past.
So wouldn't it be...
Now you're confusing me.
Yeah, I mean, I guess a woman's past is probably more important to a man than a man's past would be to a woman.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But I still think that a woman should be able to get her dream man.
You know, she made bad decisions?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Let me ask you a question.
What kind of bad decisions?
So you said that you work in...
You're a paralegal and you do business litigation, etc., right?
So let's say someone has a 400 credit score and they go into a bank and they say, you know what, man, I want a loan on a house.
Do you think they're going to give them a loan on that house?
No.
Why not?
Because their credit's bad.
Okay.
Well, how did they get bad credit?
By fucking it up?
In the past.
I mean, I feel like I deserve this loan with my 400 credit score.
It doesn't matter.
I want my dream home.
Do I really deserve it, though?
I'll give you a home loan with a 400 credit score and charge you 50 percent.
Do you understand?
There's a difference between what you can aspire to.
Sure, you can still aspire to it, but you've got to be realistic.
Again, depending on the nature of the mistakes, you've got to be realistic.
Well, fuck it.
Am I actually going to get what I want here?
Maybe not.
What about you?
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting or making bad mistakes?
Remember, you're under oath.
I think a woman who makes a lot of mistakes definitely has to settle in one aspect or the other.
Oh, well said.
What about you, Ms.
G? Yes!
Don't ask me to repeat the question.
I say yes, because when you're young, you make a lot of mistakes.
And sometimes you have to mess around for you to know what you really want.
That's like me saying I have to take all the drugs to make sure I like none of them.
It's like the guy with one body and the one with 25 body.
I would say the one with 25 because he...
So you want the guy that has experience.
Do you think men care about experience, though, and a woman?
Appreciate that.
No, because a man makes the woman, and the woman makes the man, too.
Obviously, people have to submit and know how to lead, but a woman is only going to submit to a man that properly knows how to lead.
Yeah, but I mean, it's actually an advantage for a guy to have a bigger body count, isn't it, really?
Because he's got to know what he's doing.
He's got to know what he's doing under the...
Women know inherently.
Women are inherently attracted to men they know get laid.
Most women...
A couple of girls here said that they go with the dude who's only smashed one woman in a tender relationship.
But I mean, realistically, most women want a guy who knows what he's doing.
Come on.
There's a lot of good women out there, wife material...
Where?
That has to do what they have to do to provide for their family, and that doesn't define them as a person.
And I understand that, but...
Because you have to work at the club, because you have to, me, a Oliphant doesn't define you as a person.
It doesn't mean that you're a whore, that you can be a...
I stay...
I agree with you.
That doesn't define you.
I agree.
But if I were to come to you and try to hit on you, it'd be like, yo, look, like, right now my future's not really looking too bright.
I live at my mom and, you know, I play video games.
You know, I make five bucks a day on Twitch.
You know, I feel like I should have the woman of my dreams, but, you know, I don't feel like my future should have any impact on the present.
You can give me your number.
Hell no.
Thank you.
So, if you're willing to decline that guy, why should you accept a woman that's a sex worker?
Right.
I'm gonna be honest, I talked about this actually, I posted this, literally I posted this earlier on my Instagram.
I think if a woman decides to monetize her sexuality or go into certain professions, she no longer qualifies or deserves a good man.
Real shit.
Period.
Because what you've basically done is, when you give up your sexuality or you monetize it, you're giving it out to a bunch of other guys, so you've broken the loyalty rule.
Men don't ask for much for women.
We just want you to not be a slut and exercise sexual fidelity to us.
Just be nice.
It's not the same.
So I think if a girl's involved in certain things, I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Your guy can go on your OnlyFans and look at you suck a dick on a plane.
He's never gonna take you seriously.
Okay.
Your value depreciates.
So, woman in my place, like my case right now, she'll be okay with not getting their treatments.
I know what comes with it, and I know what I'm doing.
Not everybody's goal is to get married.
Someone was going off of me on Instagram the other day because I made a TikTok.
It was about positions I want my man to put me in.
It was me shaking eyes.
Then it was a house, getting married, getting old.
And they're like, you're crazy if you think you're going to get married.
If someone's going to take you serious.
Okay, if they don't.
Because when I started doing this, I knew what Like, the consequences.
Okay, so you don't care.
You don't care.
So I don't care.
I have another goal.
Okay, we understand.
That he's not getting married.
Listen, listen.
Stop the show.
Stop the show.
You said earlier that you need a man.
I say that, like, but I really don't.
What the fuck?
I think what she's trying to say.
She's trying to say that she has a valid reason for doing OnlyFans.
However valid that reason may be, I might have a valid reason for being a loser.
It does not matter.
In other words, we as men, I'm not going to get with a fat chick who's on her weight loss journey.
Hold on.
I'm not going to do it.
That's just all there is to it.
I don't care.
Just like you are not going to get with a bum.
It's the same thing.
Well, I think she's also saying she's made a considered decision.
She knew what the consequences were before she went in, and fine.
Whether you'll change your mind on that in the future or regret that, I don't know.
Maybe you won't.
But you're saying you decided to do it anyway, regardless of the social consequences, because marriage and stuff is not your goal.
Because to me, it's more important to provide for my family, for my two kids.
But you also have to be mindful.
And to have my kids financially, emotionally stable later in the future.
That me chasing love.
Okay, that's fine.
But at what cost?
Because now your kids are going to have to deal with the consequences of your actions.
There's kids right now that are going to school and getting bullied because they're able to see their mom on OnlyFans doing things.
Well, I keep what I do for a living separately from my personal life.
That's what I do.
There's always going to be a hater.
It depends on the way that you're raising your kids because my kids are going to respect me.
Hold on, hold on.
You have a big social media following, right?
You have a big social media following, don't you?
What did you say?
I said you have a big social media following, correct?
Yes.
So it's going to be impossible for them to separate your personal life and your business.
I keep it separately.
Completely separately.
But they're going to know.
They're going to find out.
It's still on the internet.
Okay, but the time that they find out, they're going to understand and appreciate what I did for them.
Okay, but you also need to be mindful of what you're doing while you're in survival mode.
You're thinking about right now.
You're not thinking about the future.
Right now?
Yeah.
No, my kids, you should be in control of what your kids are doing on social media.
But they're going to grow up.
There's always going to be a hater.
It's always going to be a hater.
It's always going to be a hater.
It doesn't matter.
Hey, just give me a second here.
I understand, but men or women, they don't care about the why.
They care about the what.
If you found out that I made a half a million dollars a year, would it matter what I did?
Honestly?
Of course not, right?
So if a bitch is 300 pounds, does it matter why she's 300 pounds?
No.
Does it matter why I'm a fat ass right now?
No.
We don't care about the why, we care about the what.
And women do too.
You don't give a fuck why we're rich, you just care that we're rich.
We don't care why you were an OnlyFans model, we care that you were.
You probably did it for a very noble reason because no woman really wants to have to sexualize.
Hold on.
No woman really wants to have to sexualize herself for survival.
But sometimes women are put in that position and, you know, listen, we can feel sorry for that.
We're just not going to take you seriously for a long-term relationship.
That's just part of the consequence.
We don't think of you as bad people.
We're just not going to mess with you like that.
Okay, and that's fine.
Usually you end up with somebody from, like, three different states that don't...
Or you get them from a different country that don't know what's going on.
That's who you marry.
Go marry them.
A lot of people talk about this, like...
About, let's say, for example, Cardi B? A lot of people say...
Cardi B? Yeah, like, a lot of people don't like hip-hop because of what they say, but what is your keys listening to this type of music Maki is not supposed to be on OnlyFans.
Maki's are not supposed to be on Sosamita.
So you as a parent, you as a mother, you should be in control of what your kids do.
But you should be in control of all of the kids that your son or your daughter are friends with at school.
Gigi, you're forgetting, right?
Other people's kids?
You should show them, and it wouldn't even be your fault.
Exactly, she can't control everybody's kids owning her own.
So why would Maki's be around?
Like, so you're telling me, that other people's kids, they watch porn, and they be on OnlyFans?
Yes!
Not everyone's the same parent as you.
They do.
Remember, you may watch your kids, they may not.
Right, okay.
So then when they show your kids, oh look, I'm on OnlyFans, what are you going to do?
I'm okay because I know how I'm raising my kids.
You're okay with that, man?
Okay, cool.
It's not about you gatekeeping.
It's the fact that other people will fight.
That's one of the main reasons I've never seen it.
I'm not going to know how to handle with it because I know how I'm racist.
That's fine, that's fine.
But look, look, look, look, look, man.
The question was specifically, does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes in the past?
And I would argue for girls involved in sex work, whether she's a stripper, OnlyFans, Escort, Sugar Baby, whatever, she no longer qualifies for her dream man.
Doesn't make you a bad person.
And let me flip it.
Because every guy's dream, right?
You want a dream man that's successful and ambitious and tall and good-looking, etc.
That guy's gonna want something in return, okay?
A guy's gonna want a girl that isn't a whore, isn't gonna embarrass him.
He can't look her up on the internet and see her sucking dick on a plane.
That's a guy's dream.
So why is it fair for you to get your dream guy, but he's not getting a dream back in return?
He's getting a nightmare.
Women don't get it.
Like, if you're a slut, that's cool.
But I'm not gonna give you my last name.
Because I'm gonna look crazy.
Look at Will Smith, look at Logan Paul.
Whenever you wife up a whore, she fucks you up.
Every time.
So with all the respect, you don't deserve your dream man.
But uh...
But you'd be surprised.
I still got asked to get married.
Bruh.
And there's guys that saw me...
By what caliber?
Fucking losers.
By what caliber of man.
Look, look.
Ladies, ladies, ladies.
I don't give a fuck how many times you've been proposed to.
I don't give a fuck how many guys are in your DMs.
I don't give a fuck how many guys ask you on dates.
It don't matter.
How many men that you actually like back are proposing to you?
Zero.
Zero.
Exactly.
That's a trick question, Myra.
Because the thing is, you would be married if they did.
Yeah.
Your dream man is not going to propose to you.
So I hate it when girls say, well, I get these guys that DM me.
I got these guys that want to go on dates.
That's like stupid hoe OnlyFans logic that guys hit them up.
They hit you up to fuck, not to date, or take you seriously, or most importantly, marry you.
How many guys are getting down on one knee that you actually fucking respect and want to be with to give you a ring?
The answer is zero.
Yeah, none.
Okay, what about you?
Remember the question?
I agree with all of them.
Like, I'll say no.
Because a girl's past, you know, like, it has everything to do with the man that she's gonna get.
So I, like, you know.
Okay.
I say no.
So you agree?
Yeah.
For you?
Don't do it, Myra.
Oh, I think her mic's off.
Oh, somebody cut off her mic.
Girl's always unplugged the XLR. Speaking of the penis.
No, I don't hear her.
Somebody give her the mic, yeah.
Hello?
Yes, we got you.
I said no.
That one should work now.
Hello?
Yep, we got you now.
You can hear me?
Yeah.
No.
No.
Hello?
Say my answer.
No, because if you're going to be a slut, just stay a slut.
You don't deserve your dream man.
What if she just put off all the nice guys though?
She wasn't a slut.
She just waited too long.
Then what do you mean by mistakes?
Wait, repeat your question.
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes with men before?
It could be even putting off a nice guy.
If they made mistakes, then no, she doesn't deserve her dream man.
Yeah, but the mistake might be putting off the nice guy, so it's not like doing OnlyFans or something.
Alright, let me ask you a question.
Hold on, hold on.
Do you deserve a dream man?
Yes.
You have two kids.
Okay.
Do you think your dream man is going to want a single mom back in return?
Yes, me as kids.
What if he has no kids?
Then he won't go looking for her.
And I'm not gonna look for him.
Trust me, he's not.
Trust me, he's hot.
Believe me.
They both be good.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Okay.
So you're gonna settle for someone, so you don't...
I already have kids, so it doesn't matter if I meet a husband who has kids.
Okay.
I think what he's...
The dream man.
Yeah, the dream man.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think that's pretty obvious.
The dream man, yeah.
My dream man is not someone who doesn't have kids.
It doesn't matter.
Okay.
Got it.
Well, that's your choice.
Wait, your dream man is going to have kids?
It doesn't matter.
I already have kids, so I don't care if you have kids.
I guarantee you, back in the day, her dream man had no kids.
Yeah, before I had kids, but I already have kids, so now it's off the table.
So did you change her requirements now?
Her dreams changed.
What about you?
I think that depending on how deep a woman has gotten into her mistakes, no.
I think that if maybe her mistake was waiting too long, I think that then you do still deserve...
How long is too long then?
What age?
29.
Nurse.
I would say any older than maybe like 35?
What do you think is a woman's peak to men when she's the most attractive to men?
I think that women are attractive all the time.
That was not the question I asked.
The question I asked was, when do you think women are at their peak and most attractive to men?
Not you.
I would say they're 20s.
20 what, would you say?
Like mid-20s.
Mid-20s, you think, is their peak?
Okay.
So why do you think a girl didn't have fucked up until 35 if her peak was 25?
I mean, that's 10 years later.
Right.
Right.
Well, I mean, whenever a woman is at...
Whenever a woman is at her peak, she probably has whatever.
It doesn't mean that she needs to get married at her very peak, but I think that once you reach a certain age...
Wouldn't it make sense to get married when you have your peak value so that you can negotiate for the best terms?
Like right now?
I mean, that depends on what her life goals are.
What do you think most women's life goals are?
Do you want to be married?
Everyone's is different.
What are yours?
What are mine?
Personally, I wouldn't say that ideally at, let's say, when I'm 25, that I would want to be married.
Yeah, I mean, when I see myself at 25, I see myself...
Do you want a family someday?
Possibly.
Okay, so it's kind of up in the air.
You don't know.
How old are you again?
You're 20?
20.
Oh my god.
Listen, you're still young and beautiful, sweetheart.
Find a husband now!
Find a husband now.
Dude, I've seen so many fucking gorgeous women sitting around talking just like you.
We were talking about Nina the Pineapple.
You guys remember who she was?
Yeah.
Well, Nina the pineapple is a fucking way.
She's a beautiful fucking woman who sells pictures of her ass on OnlyFans for $5 a month.
She should have been married a decade ago.
But guess what?
A decade ago, she had the same attitude as you did.
Well, I don't know.
Listen, man, when you're young and beautiful, it seems like you have all the time in the world until you don't.
Ask the 20-somethings on the panel how much time they think they have left.
Like, ladies, we've got to be smart about this.
Quit denying what you really- Listen, admitting that you want a husband and family doesn't make you weak.
It makes you a woman.
But the truth of the matter is, right, every girl who's like in her 20s, whatever, right, has probably met countless dudes that theoretically could have made a great husband.
And she's passed them all up.
And that's a choice.
And that's absolutely fine.
But choices have consequences.
And that's why he's saying this thing about, do you deserve it?
If you've passed up all of these dudes, because it's bullshit to say that none of you guys, all of you guys here have probably met dudes that could have made a fantastic husband.
And you're like, yeah, he was too nice.
He's a bit boring.
Oh, Chad from fucking the, you know, whatever.
He's hotter.
Blah, blah, blah.
And you've passed up all of these dudes.
And it's like, you know, and you've got to, at some point, you have to accept, well, okay, I've made those choices, and now I'm going to have to take, you know, whatever's left sort of thing.
Listen, listen, you don't have to take this advice, but listen, just, you You are entering a time in your life where I would say probably three to four men over the next 10 years are going to be serious candidates for husband material.
And you're going to disqualify them for a bullshit reason.
When you're 35 years old and not married, you're going to be like, you know what?
I wonder what happened to Brian and Todd and Anthony.
Make the smart choice.
Make the smart choice, because I'm telling you, time runs out very quickly.
If they show husband material, I don't think that I would immediately reject that.
Say again?
If they show husband material, like, there's actually someone in front of my face, and that's like, you know?
But what's husband material?
Husband material is different to the hot guy in the club material, isn't it?
And that's the fucking problem.
That's not husband material.
Okay, fine.
So what do those younger girls go for, though?
They're not going to go for the husband, the sensible accountant who's got a nice button-down shirt.
Nope.
This is what I said earlier.
And ladies, you have to understand, when you're young, you go for the men you want.
When you're older, you go for the men you need.
But when you are at your sexual peak, you can have it both ways.
You've just got to lock down one of them.
I'm trying to tell you, man.
I'm trying to tell you.
You don't have to take my advice.
No, they don't, but it is what it is.
I think it's because our age is harder because most men our age are broke.
I don't know what that has to do with anything.
You could die to the guy who's older.
What does that have to do with anything?
I mean, in that same argument, most women are fat, so...
How old is your soon-to-be wife?
I like it, I like it.
How old is your soon-to-be wife?
She is 47 years old.
Oh, okay.
How old is your soon-to-be husband?
Oops, my bad.
Didn't mean to ask you an extra question.
If I was looking for somebody, he'll be in his late, probably late 30s.
I'm sure you are, sweetheart.
She can get any man you want.
Okay.
I just date men in their late 30s.
Perfect.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, so what about your turn?
Go ahead.
Does a woman still deserve her dream man after waiting and or making mistakes?
Well, I feel like a woman deserves whatever she desires.
As far as whether it be her dream man, after making mistakes, everybody makes mistakes.
Everybody makes mistakes.
Nobody is perfect.
Okay, but wouldn't it be fair to say that mistakes have consequences?
They do, but it's a lot of successful people that made a lot of bad mistakes.
Way worse than anybody on this panel right now, so I don't believe that.
So you think you still deserve certain things even if you made mistakes?
So let's say I rob a bank.
Do I deserve to, you know, be a free man?
You deserve to go to jail, but then after you go to jail and you learn from your mistake and you make your life better, you could be a multimillionaire after you rob a bank.
Yeah, but I still can't vote.
I still can't get certain jobs.
That's right.
You can't, yes, most certainly, but if I'm a multimillionaire after I robbed a bank, I'd change my life around.
Oh my God.
Did you seriously just say, am I a multimillionaire after I robbed a bank?
You are literally the dumbest fucking woman who has ever been on this podcast.
Okay, Maya Angelou was a whole prostitute before she became a known poet.
So what are you talking about?
You ain't Maya Angelou, boo.
I don't care about being Maya Angelou or not, but I know research.
Maya Angelou was a whole sex worker before she became a noted poet.
So you're going to be a noted poet?
Poet.
Maybe.
Whatever.
I don't have to be a poet.
I can be whatever I want to be.
Fine.
You're right.
I'm wrong.
It's too late for you, girl.
I already make money already.
I'm sure you do.
Your wife is 47 and you're over here telling us to be young and date young and your wife is 47.
You're going to talk shit about my wife?
What about your husband?
I don't want a husband right now.
Oh, you don't want a husband.
Making my necessity a virtue.
American black women, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, by the way, guess what it is?
American black men.
American black men ain't shit.
Who the fuck said no, no, no, no, no.
Who is me?
No, no, no, she's right.
She's right.
She's right.
No, no, she's right.
American black men ain't shit.
And you, like, you're talking about me.
So what are you talking about?
No, you ain't shit.
What are you talking about?
If y'all want to remove me, y'all can.
I don't care.
You are literally the dumbest person I have ever met in my life.
So what you want to talk about?
You're a dumbass fuck.
Now what?
You're a stupid bitch.
Calm down.
I'm a bitch.
You're a stupid bitch.
You're a stupid bitch.
You're a white dog and die alone.
What's your name?
Bitch ass nigga.
Bitch ass nigga.
There it is.
She said it.
Bitch ass nigga.
Keep talking.
I am.
And you're shaking right now.
You're turning red.
Bitch, I got bad skin.
I'm shaking!
You literally shaking!
I got you bothered!
This bitch is un-fucking-believable!
I got you bothered trembling in your motherfucking body!
Here's a guest.
Relax.
Chill.
Chill out.
Chill.
I'm used to it.
Chill, chill, chill.
God damn, man.
And I didn't wonder why we don't pick him.
Yes, here you go.
That right there.
Oh, she's a white girl, by the way.
Okay.
Nice.
Do you think a woman still deserves a dream man after making bad decisions?
If she passed up the good guy, no, because she was looking for the wrong things.
But if she made mistakes, still no.
Because those mistakes that she made in the past can end up reflecting on her significant other.
And it becomes a bad image on him.
Do you think you deserve your dream man?
Me?
Yes.
She said me?
Yes.
Why?
Well, in terms of mistakes, yes.
Because I haven't really made mistakes lately.
I would say one-night stands is a pretty big mistake.
No, the tattoos are a pretty big mistake.
Tattoos?
Oh, yes.
I mean, to Easter Island on that one.
But in terms of the one-night stands, yeah.
Love tattoos, but they don't look good on ladies.
Sorry.
Okay.
Your favorite part?
We got some more chats here than last thoughts.
Alright, cool.
What do we got here?
No more?
Okay, cool.
Final thoughts?
So we'll do thoughts on the show.
Hate it, love it.
Comments?
Start with the couch, please.
Speaking of penis.
Final thoughts.
Hate it, love it.
Or angry tirades.
You go ahead.
I have fun every time I come on.
I always learn something new.
It's always entertaining for me.
I just be sitting back watching everything go down.
I like it.
It was fun for me.
I don't have anything negative to say this time.
You sound like you swallowed a balloon.
I don't know why.
I sound squeaky?
I don't know why.
You know what we used to do with the balloons with the helium?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You sound like Donald Duck.
What about you?
I love it.
Hey, y'all!
Hey, y'all!
I love it.
I love debating about stuff, so it is what it is.
Yep, I do.
Alright, there you go.
Oh, never mind.
Do you have anything else that you want to say?
No, I like the show.
It's cool.
I have tough skin, so I don't care.
That's great.
What about you?
What about you?
This was enjoyable.
I think that there's a lot of good back and forth conversation and I like to hear how everyone kind of has their own mindset and their own choices on each thing.
I like that there's some questions that were just like moved past and some of them were pretty good so I appreciate it.
Did you learn anything?
I think that I really enjoyed hearing people out.
Politician's answer!
I had a really good time on the show.
What did you learn?
I think it was more of my observing and listening rather than me saying, oh wow, I learned this crazy life lesson.
That, I would say no.
The answer is you learned nothing.
Fantastic.
And it's interesting because I like to do this experiment.
What I've noticed with younger women is they typically don't learn anything and they just go back to doing what they were doing in the first place, which is totally cool and fantastic.
But you got four experienced guys telling you how the world really works and, as usual, younger women tend to think that they know better.
There I learned.
There I learned.
What did you learn?
I would say I learned a little bit about where men kind of prefer their, you know, women and...
Okay, we can move on.
You see what I mean now when I say that women don't need to have competence?
I'm telling you, bro.
Like, y'all literally, you guys call me an asshole or maybe a massager or whatever, but throughout the course of the podcast, we've been able to pretty much prove through your guys' answers and stuff that the burden of performance for women is pretty low.
Y'all don't have to do much.
Hey, man, listen to my last piece of advice.
Don't lose your titties.
Let's move on She bought that she bought the me to you fresh watch out.
I enjoyed it.
I The only thing I learned was to get a husband now.
Atta God.
I get old.
Okay.
I had a good time here.
What did you learn?
I learned...
Nothing.
I learned a lot.
No, like, I learned that a girl's past can obviously not help her later on in her life.
Yeah.
We'll take that.
And that getting a good guy later on is hard.
You know?
Are you going to argue less with your boyfriend now?
I don't argue with my man.
Good.
At all.
And also, don't whip whole sex.
Because he might just leave.
Yeah, fuck.
Miss, I think I should be able to go home.
Look, she's smiling.
She's like, I'm not doing that.
I'm not doing that.
I left alone.
That's good.
You know, he can get it.
Happy for you.
You gotta do it even when you don't feel like it, is my point.
How many tests do you have?
A lot.
I lost count.
I'm almost at a whole bodysuit.
God damn.
You're almost a dollar bill status.
What about you, G? I had a good time, and I also learned about meng expectation.
You know what it is.
And that's it.
How I say it was either me being a sloth, a whore, how you guys call us, girls that do elephants, or me being a wifey.
So I'm gonna say being a happy whore.
I'd rather cry alone on a Roy Royce or on a mansion.
She said it!
Royce!
She got you, bro!
I'd rather cry in my own mansion than I own and that I got with my own.
Okay.
Well, then she accepts it.
That's cool.
She accepts it.
What about you?
I learned don't lose a good man for a dumb reason.
Nah, but it was fun.
I enjoyed hearing everybody's different opinions, everybody keeping it unfiltered, so it was fun.
Thank you.
We also learned what health community was today.
I had a good time.
I think it was...
I think it's dope to, like, get a male's perspective on these things and kind of, like, rebuttal your thoughts.
Yeah, because it kind of makes sense after you sit there and let it marinate for a little bit.
Are you going to try to be a lawyer?
Yeah, I was going to.
No, don't do it.
No, don't do it anymore.
Spirit of clients.
Treat your guy well and he'll be straight married.
The younger the better.
Yeah, man.
Don't be a lawyer.
Spirit of clients.
Yeah, nigga, go to jail.
My argument is...
You know what?
That makes sense.
My past doesn't matter.
Hey, at least you learned something, man.
Guilty.
What about you?
So I actually enjoyed it.
I was really nervous.
Really?
Why?
You would spend bars, man.
Smiry games, right?
No, honestly, I was sent some real foul clips of y'all.
I've never watched them.
So I was like, what the fuck?
But honestly, it was a vibe.
The dialogue was awesome.
And what I learned from it is that...
Everyone needs to know and understand their role and their position, and sometimes you gotta settle for some shit.
More of the clips.
Yeah, we wanna know.
Out of curiosity.
Yeah, what was it?
Alright, so I was told something about an 18-year-old girl, like something about 18-year-old virgins or...
What's wrong with those?
I don't know, someone was waiting.
No, no, this is just like, they were just telling me like, you know, that you're just creeps, it's just, they don't respond.
They said that, you know, they're just creeps that you guys just don't respect women and all this stuff.
But honestly, like, a lot of the shit that y'all was saying, like, a lot of shit is factual.
Like, you live and you learn.
And everything is an experience.
And if you don't take anything back from it, like, come on, what are you really doing?
You know what it is, right?
Girls that don't know us, they see clips and they judge us all.
Yeah, I was scared shitless.
What people don't know is that, like...
Nine out of ten times if it's me kicking a girl out or telling a girl she's dumb.
It's been like an hour plus of her just being annoying or her in the quiet of the show and I'm like, oh my god, you're a fucking retard.
Because there's a lot of dumb girls, unfortunately.
Yeah, and understanding a podcast too.
Obviously, I don't know everything that goes behind it.
So when we just get a little clip, I just see everyone's fired up.
You get a 30 second clip from a three hour pod, it's very difficult to put things in context and understand, oh, that's why he was freaking out, because this girl was acting ridiculous.
We actually love women, by the way.
Y'all have a vibe, y'all have a vibe.
It was fun.
Alright, what about you?
Last thoughts, comments, criticisms, questions?
Before you go back to Homestead.
Stop it.
It's both of us together.
Oh, there you go.
Come on, man.
Try to save her.
Well, it was my first time on a podcast, so it was a really good experience.
Oh, my God.
It's all downhill from here.
Yes, it is.
There's still a lot of copycats.
Really?
Yeah.
Don't worry about it.
Well, it was a good experience.
I learned a lot.
You know, we had a difference of opinion.
We talked through it.
I think you guys have been nothing but respectful.
Um...
You know, I learned how to handle myself as a lady and, you know, the difference between a hoe and a lady.
And what you guys are looking for.
So now you know the truth.
Let's say you find a guy that meets you from time to time.
He's taking care of you.
Would you stay or would you leave?
She's about to call that dude from two years ago.
You better go get that nigga.
You better go get that nigga.
I'm going to go ahead and stay.
She was just telling me in the car If he don't do what you're talking about then leave him I'm like, girl, I can't.
He has every other thing I want.
She a bad friend, though.
I get it.
I get it.
I've been saying to dog girls all the time, never take advice from a single girl, bro.
Single women give each other terrible advice.
Dog shit advice.
You can be single just with her as well.
So they give dog shit advice.
You definitely want to look at things differently now.
As I did podcast, I'm going to start wasting my time and wasting other people's time looking for love.
Stop the cat.
I didn't press the button to look at me.
I'm going to stop looking.
I'm going to stop wasting my time and wasting other guys' time looking for my dream guy because I see how you guys...
Yeah, you're fucked.
I'll be honest.
You're fucked.
It's over.
It's over.
It's over for you.
There's literally sex videos of you out there.
It's a wrap for you.
It's my time no more.
Troy, where can they find you guys, man?
Yeah, so at Real Troy Francis on YouTube, on Twitter or X, and on Instagram.
It's been a fucking great show.
Thanks, guys, for having me.
It's been great to chat to all of you guys.
I mean, I think, for me personally, variety is the spice of life.
I would say, guys, ignore all this Daily Wire shit.
Don't get married.
Go out and enjoy the fucking buffet.
If you're staying in Vegas, if you're staying at the hotel in Vegas, you go down to the fucking cafe, you know, the restaurant there.
They've got the Chinese, they've got the Mexican, they've got the Italian.
You want to sample a little bit of each.
You don't just want one of them, do you?
So, you know, stay free.
Do I, girls?
Well...
Oh, we're still talking about food.
My fault.
So, yeah, stay for it.
But the other thing is as well, actions have consequences.
So you do stuff in your life and there's going to be a fucking consequence to that, right?
So if you want to be a 304 in your younger years as a woman, that's great.
Absolutely fine.
But there's going to be a consequence to that.
If you want to be a bachelor and want to go around and be, you know, casual or whatever, there's a consequence to that.
There's trade-offs to everything.
If you want to get married, there's going to be, you know, trade-offs to that as well.
So, at Real Troy Francis on all platforms.
Thank you guys.
Excellent.
Yeah, great podcast.
Thanks for having me again.
In the end, you know, I know a lot of you guys get, you know, we get bad reputations like we hate women.
No, we love women very much, and that's why we talk about you guys so much.
Because at the end of the day, man, and Rola says this all the time, we're at odds right now, but men and women, without a doubt, we're better together.
We are.
And when you have this miscommunication between the sexes on what's important to each other, mainly with women, women are so misguided, you really have to take time and listen to the caliber of men you're trying to lock down.
Don't listen to the bum-ass nigga on the block who's always, bitches and shit!
No, no, no, no.
Take advice from the men, take advice from the caliber of men that you want.
Listen, if you're looking for a high-value man, if you're attracted to lawyers, be a paralegal.
If you want a doctor, maybe be a nurse or an LPN. If you want to date a rich golfer, be one of the ballgirls.
If you want to meet high-end people, become a server at a suite box at a professional sports game.
There are many, many ways to put yourself in front of high-value men.
You just have to recognize these men when you see them.
And like I said, men and women are better together.
And I like what Troy said.
You know, I lived in Vegas for almost 10 years, and I sampled every kind of buffet there was.
And as much fun as it was, and I would not trade that experience for the world, my life is infinitely, infinitely...
It is so much better now that I have one woman to worry about instead of two and three and four.
So you learned something, too.
No, I always knew I was going to settle down.
I just...
No, I knew I was going to settle down, but I knew that in order to have the requisite mentality and skill set to be able to mold a woman into what I needed her and wanted her to be, I was going to have to go out and skin my knees a little bit.
And he was either going to be Miami or Las Vegas.
I cut my teeth in Vegas and here I am.
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Alright, and guys, we'll be back on Friday.
I think we might have some special guests on.
I'm going to lock it in with Ryan and Scott Ritter.
We're going to talk about the conflict going on in a certain part of the world, which I won't even talk about.
That's going to have to be Rumble only.
But guys, do me a favor.
Don't forget to like the video on YouTube and comment below for the algo.
Okay, open up a YouTube tab.
Like the video over there, man.
Let's go ahead and hit the algo hard.
Hashtag Fresh and Fit.
Yes, or for the Algo.
Either or.
Love you.
I'll be back on Friday at 6 p.m.
Peace.
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