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Oct. 11, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
02:13:02
Donovan Sharpe And Troy Francis Return!
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Thank you.
And we are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
We're here with two legends, Donovan Sharpe and Troy Francis.
Let's get into it, man.
Let's do it!
Oh, no, no intro.
My bad.
No intro.
I was wearing...
Real fast.
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We had a pre-show earlier with Donovan and Troy as well, so go check it out.
Yes.
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I don't know if you guys do the intro anymore.
What was that?
Why don't you do the intro?
We got hit with a bunch of copyright claims.
What?
Claims though, not like strikes or anything, but like, yeah.
We're going to do a new intro with a new song.
And plus we need to film another one anyway with the new studio, so we're going to film a new one probably.
But yeah, yo, Fresh, did you have anything before we...
I was going to say, man, welcome back to the OGs in the building, man.
Yeah, man.
From the very beginning.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, man.
Thank you, guys.
You know, this is a quick recap.
We know who you are, but they may not know who you are.
New viewers, at least.
Yeah.
Please tell them who you are.
Troy Francis.
I'm a dating coach.
I'm based in London in the United Kingdom.
I've been in the space for over a decade now.
Actually, one of the first things I did was writing for Return of Kings by the famous Roosh V. And Donovan was another writer on that at the time.
I was writing about game and dating and having to meet girls and all this kind of stuff.
And Donovan was writing some other stuff.
And we got to know each other through that.
It's a long It's been a long time.
We did a project, I think, together back in 2015, man.
With that guy, Richard Brown.
That was crazy.
That was a lot of fun.
I hadn't even met you face to face yet.
It was only actually a couple of years ago we met, wasn't it?
And Myron actually got it on video the very first time we actually saw each other face to face.
That's what we do, man.
We reunite people.
Well, in person, at least.
Who would have thought?
Yeah.
Alright.
What about you, Donovan?
Yeah, I'm Donovan Sharp.
I've been in this community since 2014.
You know, good friends of these guys here.
A good friend of Troy.
Let me think.
I've got my own private streaming platform.
And, of course, Devin is texting me.
Looking good, babe.
Yeah, tell me something I don't already know.
Yeah, that's cute.
But yeah, I recently got over, got past a pretty serious health issue.
I'm very much looking forward to getting back into the gym and getting rid of these titties.
Welcome to my show!
This CME is going to be more or less a victory lap.
And, you know, a lot of people are going to say, oh, that's being petty.
I don't...
We can swear, right?
Yeah.
Good.
I don't give a fuck.
I ended that fucker.
I ended him.
21 Convention is done because of me.
I win, you lose.
Now go take care of your bastard fucking kid and your groupie fucking bitch.
Oh, shit.
Goddamn, man.
Goddamn, dude.
Goddamn.
You guys remember what happened back in the spring of 21, right?
Yeah, it was a battle.
The battle is now over.
Fake lawyers, no.
Fuck him, fuck his kid, and fuck his groupie whore.
Fuck him.
Goddamn, man.
Now I'm going to be classy.
Now I'm going to be classy.
See, a lot of people think that we're just...
See, Troy is...
Look at how we're dressed.
This is literally the difference between me and him, right?
Troy is like...
He's the smooth guy, the James Bond type dude.
I'm the dude that's just...
Don't sit on the fence, Donovan, say what you really think.
You know, I've been known, but seriously though, it's been a long time coming, because a lot of people said and wrote a lot of things about me, and they tried to do certain things, and dude, I fucking told you motherfuckers that I would stand up to this dude, and I would fucking defeat him, and I fucking did.
And he's got nobody to blame but me.
So there we go.
Yeah, he gave you so much shit, man, and it was just so unnecessary for such a long period of time.
He was obsessed.
He probably still is obsessed.
Dude, he's still trying to do things in the background, but to make things positive, because that is now over with.
Yeah, the CME is back for the third straight year.
I don't know that I'm going to do this.
I don't know that I'm going to do a CME in 24, probably 25.
And the reason why is I'm just tired of losing money.
These are very...
Like, you guys did the boat party.
That was very expensive.
But anyway, that's who I am.
Oh, I'm also offering 95% off of my entire catalog, if you guys want to go to that link or whatever.
That is crazy, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, the reason I... What really inspired that was Bible study.
So I went to their Bible study, and, you know...
In our Discord.
Yeah, right, right.
And I just figured, hey, Donovan, blah, blah, blah.
But the guys were asking me all of these questions.
And I was like, wow, these dudes really need to know this stuff.
And I know that prices are a little out there.
And I've made all the money.
I've got all the toys and cars and all that good stuff.
So I said, you know what?
Let me put my money where my mouth is.
Let me get a little bit of return on my investment and just offer my entire catalog 95% off.
You will pay 5 cents on the dollar for my entire catalog.
That is my gift from me.
Do you?
Wow.
Awesome.
Shout out Discord, man.
Yeah.
Yes.
So, real quick.
So, guys, we got a couple topics that we're going to talk about here.
But again, FNFSuperChad.com if you guys want to get involved in the show.
Yes.
As you guys can see here, we got a new look, right?
I've been making some upgrades to the studio.
I hope you guys like it.
We got some curtains.
I brought the...
Table in a little bit closer so I get a better shot.
So new cameras and everything else like that.
So guys, give me fire emojis in the chat if you guys like the updated production quality.
I told y'all before, man, that we're the number one men's podcast in the world and we're going to continue to do so.
Shout out to Black Lemur in the fucking house, by the way.
I just saw that.
Thank you for supporting, bro.
It's good to have you back.
It's been a while since I've seen you.
Without him, we would have had the donations at the very beginning.
The first slider we got was thanks to him.
And he was Donovan's first supporter as well.
Yeah, sure was.
Today's quote from Donovan, there's no honor among thieves and even less honor among sluts.
Black Limmer.
I agree, man.
But yeah, guys, let me know how you guys like the new look, man.
Because like I said before, new cameras, new lenses, updating it, still trying to keep the Miami vibes.
It's still fresh to fit, but obviously with a production uplift.
Donovan, you ever met Black Limmer in person?
Yes, I have.
I met him at you guys' meeting.
Yeah, yeah.
Very cool.
Very, very laid back.
Chill.
Nonchalant.
Very strong handshake.
He's a cool guy, man.
Yeah, he is.
He wasn't what I thought he would look like.
I don't know what I expected.
Putting a face to the name is always like, bro, wait, what?
Yeah, it's like when I saw him, I was like, I feel like I owe you money, dude.
Something.
What did you think he was going to look like?
I have no idea.
You never know.
I was thinking maybe he looks like a lemur.
I don't know.
But I was pleasantly surprised to see him there at the meetup, man.
It was good to shake hands with him.
Another one the 28th October coming up in Miami.
It's going to be crazy.
This October?
Yes, sir.
You mean I gotta come back?
You mean I have to come back here again?
Oh, no.
I don't know if...
I'm in.
I'm in.
If you guys will have me.
Yeah, of course, man.
All right, let me hit some of these chats real quick, and then we'll get into...
We got a couple topics that we're going to talk about.
As you guys know, obviously, with the big Me Too case with that MLB player.
Trevor Bauer.
Trevor Bauer.
RP updates as well.
The current status of the RP. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's been a bunch of talk about that.
Where we at here?
We got...
Freaky Fred.
Freaky Fred.
Five bucks.
Appreciate that.
And just so you guys know, if you want your chat to be...
Obviously, every single chat that comes through will be shown on screen.
But if you want it to be fully read, I think it's, what, 10 and up?
10 and up will be shown.
10 and up will be shown on screen with the actual text.
Cool.
And then when the viewers, as you guys know, as it goes up, we'll read 20 and up, and then if it gets to that, we'll go 50 and up.
Guys, by the way, Rumble's still up.
If you can't see it, just refresh, and you should be fine to go.
You have to go.
I know a lot of you guys were, like when you guys first started this, a lot of the guys were like, oh, it all kind of looks the same, and this and that, guys.
It ain't the same.
It is not the same.
Like, dude, this studio is next level.
Like, this is next level type stuff.
It's amazing that you got this done in a week and a half.
I still can't believe it.
I mean, the quality that you guys do is consistent.
It's crazy.
It's the best in the industry.
I appreciate that, man.
Thank you.
Yeah, it was a lot of sleepless nights and stress, dude.
I'm not gonna lie.
Like, yesterday I was up, like, working, went to the gym, and then 13, 12 hours, just, like, Pulling up the curtain, sizing things, working with the lighting, looking at the cameras, setting up stage boxes.
It's a never-ending process of tinkering, the lights, the sound.
I mean, I'm not on y'all's level, but on some level I understand to a degree.
No, man, you run high production too, so you definitely understand.
All by myself, baby.
Yeah, by yourself as well.
Alright, so where we at here?
Let's go back to...
Okay, so we got...
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Check it out.
And Marquette viewers, 100%...
What was that?
100% answers...
100% of your questions in my life have changed significantly surrounded by lovely girls.
Good for you, man.
Shout out to Marquette and the Satan Assassins.
You guys see that clip of Neon and Sam?
He made her block a dude on IG and she was throwing a fit because of it and then she was trying to get Neon to block mine afterwards as well.
LMFAO and said there's no reason that he should be friends with you.
She mad.
Well, man, like, guys, you gotta understand, when you expose female nature, girls don't like that because you take their power from them.
Not only that, you're fucking with her bag.
Like, I sat here, like, it was funny.
If you actually, and I know you guys have a lot to do, but you could sit, Neon was sitting right here.
You could see his facial expressions changing.
When you guys gave him something to think about, he was like, huh.
And sometimes he would kind of laughingly joke about it with old girl, but you could tell that he was really kind of serious.
And then when you guys put her feet to the fire, hey, delete your OnlyFans now.
Well, it's not worth it for me.
Well, that tells us all we need to know.
Genuinely, I can tell that she doesn't like him.
Of course.
But for the camera, she does.
Of course.
So ask her question.
If you're so invested in him, get off camera for two or three weeks.
Oh, no, she ain't gonna do that.
That's the reason she's here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She ain't gonna do that.
She's supposed to mean she's all cap.
Look, if you're gonna hustle me, at least...
At least be honest about it.
Look, I'm not into paying for botch.
You guys know how that goes.
But...
But a John and a Lady of the Night, that is probably the closest to a transactional relationship as there could be.
The John knows what he's getting.
The Lady of the Night knows what she's doing it for.
But when you get girls like that, and there have never been as many young millionaires as there are right now.
Oh, 100%.
I remember the average age of a millionaire is usually like in the 50s or something.
They're young millionaires, especially in Miami.
These girls are still going to go after the high NBA NFL guys, but now they're targeting these Bitcoin guys, these streamers, and you can see them just getting hustled.
Like, the kid looks like he's 13 years old.
And I think to myself, when I first started watching the episode, I don't need to suck all the air out of the room, but I thought it was like an act.
I was like, this can't be real.
But the longer it went on, the more obvious it became.
The problem is that younger guys aren't learning game and they're not learning about the red pill unless they're watching this show or other shows.
And it's just like they need to...
And if you make a lot of money young and then you start dealing with some girl and she's, you know, she's got bad intent, then you are going to be fucked.
Stupid!
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
And that's why this stuff is so valuable.
Because dudes, there are so many dudes out there.
We think, because we operate in these circles, we think everyone kind of knows this stuff.
They really fucking don't.
They really don't.
I'll tell you this.
We had, from his stream, I think there were like, Mo, what was the numbers on that one?
Like 50, 60k watching or whatever it was on Kik?
What was it, Mo?
It was 80?
80K watching on Kik.
Holy God!
And a bunch of them were saying like, Elmira and all these guys are assholes, blah, blah, blah.
So, I mean, a lot of guys are still plugged into the Matrix and like they are blue pill as hell and they think, oh no, it's completely appropriate for you to date a woman that's monetizing her sexuality on the internet.
I actually posted on Instagram earlier, A real and I was saying like if a woman goes into a certain type of field where she's selling her sexuality monetizing it she no longer qualifies for a good man.
That's right.
She really doesn't.
Not as a girlfriend.
Not as a serious girlfriend.
It's funny so I got some intel after the show.
Uh-oh.
She said she was celibate right?
So someone exposed her saying that like she's not celibate because she's smashing this guy from an app that she met and it's funny because that guy has no clout but he's getting to smash.
There you go.
Right, so he's the...
Money and status, and she's playing because he's a virgin, and she don't want to smash.
That's right there.
I'm not opposed to it.
Look, that's hypergamy personified.
Literally, alpha fucks, beta bucks.
I'll tell you something else about that as well, though.
Guys will say, I had a comment even yesterday on my YouTube.
Some guys say, yeah, man, it's all about money.
It's not all about money.
I mean, of course, money is attractive as part of the overall package.
But if you've got money and you're a dork...
Then, A, you're not going to get decent quality women, and B, if you do, you're going to get hustled.
And that's the fucking thing.
A lot of guys don't realize that's another level of naivety, isn't it?
And now with social media, I would argue there's a third factor.
There's clout.
Girls nowadays, if you're a streamer...
She was real quick.
She's like, I met him when he had 20,000 IGs to follow her.
I was like, how do you know that?
That's another currency that girls use nowadays is, um, if you're big on social media, um, you're able to kind of, girls are gonna come and gravitate towards you, especially if you're like a streamer and these girls are predatory, they got like an OnlyFans or something like that, they're gonna use it to their advantage to, you know, bring their subscribers up.
She lied.
She said she didn't get much money after that stream.
Well, actually, Roosh V back in the day once said, I think this was about seven or eight years ago, and he said, in the future, game is not gonna be enough, you're gonna need fame as well.
He did say that.
And you know, I really want everyone to...
Everyone should read Roosh's book.
I'm gonna get him on the show, man, at some point.
I know he switched up and he's more religious now.
Oh, man, dude.
I've been working on him for years, too.
But what I will say is that his book Game, which is the last book he wrote before he took the god pill, the opening chapter actually put it in my book because I thought it was so good, and he made a lot of predictions that are true, and that book was written like in 2018, 2019.
He talked about how...
How the sexual marketplace has changed significantly thanks to the advent of the smartphone and social media and how, just like you said, fame is going to be something also that's very important to women.
And I would say the more women that have social media, that get on Instagram, etc., the more fame is going to be important to them.
That's a currency nowadays, like a big one.
It's a currency because it's so easily monetizable.
With regards to money, money looks and status will most certainly make a difference in terms of the opportunities you get.
Money looks and status gets you more opportunities, but if you don't understand how to handle women, you go from becoming a high-value man to being a mark, like our guy Neon.
But like you said, there is this kind of...
The dating marketplace, it seems to me, is becoming much more of a grey area now, where money is coming into play in the sense that you've got a lot of girls on the arrangements apps, the sugar baby apps.
There's also a lot of girls on Instagram, and as we all know, they're getting flown out, not just to buy, but going on trips and going around Europe and all this kind of stuff.
And they're obviously getting sponsors to do that.
So money is playing a part, of Of course.
In that sense.
And actually, the market in a way is becoming more transactional.
But at the same time, like you said, if you don't know what you're doing, even if you've got the money, you're going to be completely fucked over.
Yeah, I would argue in today's day and age, you need red pill awareness now more than ever.
Would you say, because I've seen it argued even in mainstream, like soft prostitution is becoming more of a reality now.
And I think there's truth in it.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, the fact that women are able to, you know, let's not even go into OnlyFans, because OnlyFans is obviously at the end of the spectrum.
You could take an average girl that's literally, you know, I've seen regular chicks that have a thousand followers or whatever, and they got their Cash App in their bio.
Yep.
Or their Venmo.
And girls are able to monetize just off of being an internet, because what they've been able to do, essentially, is they're able to scale their sexuality to an unprecedented number of simps.
And most guys, if not taught this information, default to simping.
They default to chivalry.
They default to the nice guy, right?
And what I tell guys is you need to understand that women are predatory and they can extract resources from you if they will do so.
They're not going to sit there and say, oh, don't give me money.
Oh, don't give me attention.
They're not going to tell you to stop being a simp because of benefits.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I was dealing with this girl in Mexico last week, and she was telling me she's got a Twitter account.
I don't think it's particularly big, but she puts up some sexy pictures.
Nothing pornographic, but just some hot pictures.
She does a bit of the cosplay and all that stuff.
And she said, yeah, guys just send me money.
And she was kind of giggling about it.
She wasn't even being super gold-diggery about it.
She was just like, yeah, it's weird, but I'm not going to say no.
Yeah, that's normal nowadays.
You've got girls not even wondering why they're getting cash ads now.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah.
So, I like to add to the fact of fishing, right?
So, us as RP guys, we help guys catch the fish.
Right.
Obviously, you go on your boat to the water, and it takes time to learn how to catch fish.
Once you catch fish, you're good at it over a period of time.
Yep.
But nowadays...
What happens is most guys, they come into it and say, you know what?
I can just buy the fish and get it right away with no work.
So that happens all the time, even in the real world.
We go outside nowadays and say, oh, pay me for sex, which to me is disgusting, but people do it all the time.
So we just say, put in the work, go fishing yourself, learn how to fish.
Once that's done, why pay for something that's free?
Right, exactly.
But I will say that there's A demographic of female that won't deal with you unless you pay.
Like, there's just some girls that like, you know, they'd be around celebs and they're like, ah, blah, blah, you just don't fuck with those girls.
That is true, but pay for box or pay for the experience?
Well, I think there's a glass ceiling with some women where if you're not living a certain type of lifestyle...
They're not gonna fuck with you.
And they might even be attracted to you, but they're just gonna be like, no, I'm not taking this further, because they expect, and it's not even, they're not asking for money as such, but they want a certain level of experience.
Yeah, and that's fine, like, that's why I tell guys, like, make the money so you can, like, show that you can, like, potentially do it, but you don't actually do it.
You gotta dangle the carrot for these hoes.
It's funny, you get women on here all the time who want to chastise guys like you, Well, the reason why you want a young girl, young, experienced girl, is so that you can take advantage of her.
Dude, 95% of what women say, what comes out of their mouth when they're talking about relationships, it's all projection.
The reason why a woman says you want a young and inexperienced girl so that you can take advantage of her is because they know that's what they would do.
Case in point, Sam...
And neon.
Nobody's all up in arms for this woman basically grooming this kid who doesn't know any better, right?
Women are protected from male nature all the time, but men are never protected from female nature.
There's this perception that women are these...
Still, in the culture, there's this perception that women are these innocent, naive...
I can't believe that.
It's ridiculous.
I think women, we all know, women are more socially savvy than dudes.
And even a girl who's 19, 20, 21, they tend to be much more, and not just sexually, they are sexually, but also just in the hustle.
You know, they're very Machiavellian, right?
A lot of them, they really fucking get it, and they know how to play guys.
And, you know, again, not saying they're all bad people, but guys have got to be on their game.
They've got to know what the fuck they're doing.
I mean, and I keep telling guys this, and they don't get it because they tell me you're an asshole.
Why do you employ these strategies?
Blah, blah, blah.
Why do you tell guys this stuff?
Because it's necessary.
And the reason why is because imagine, you know, you're getting hit on and, you know, offered situations from the time you hit puberty.
Yep.
Yeah.
By the time a girl's 21 years old, she's pretty much mastered how to deal with the opposite gender.
Yeah.
Most guys at 21 might have dated or talked to maybe five or ten girls in their lifetime.
If that.
If that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Women are just equipped, just from the experiences, their biological hardwiring, etc., to be way more aware and better at dealing with obstinately than men are.
Men actually have to go out there, get reps, put themselves in compromising situations to get the experience.
And let's be honest here, most guys, especially in the social media age, aren't willing to go out there and approach girls and say, hey, I'd like to take you out some time or blah, blah, blah.
Most guys can barely formulate a sentence when they talk to a girl, let alone actually approach and be attractive while doing so.
Yeah, I mean, because they've had more practice, that's what you're saying, they've had more practice, because they've been put into more social situations.
Well, wait a minute, more practice, you're right, but it doesn't take skill to get hit on, right?
Like, these girls, there's no skill in getting fucked, there's no skill in finessing.
Like, there's so many people that think that women are these otherworldly beings and they use this brilliant mix of guile and charm to be dazzled.
No!
Men want to fuck you.
You take advantage of that.
That's why men...
There's so many women, yeah, I hustle and I get paid.
Bitch, you get paid for existing.
There is no skill in just existing.
Now, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I'm not mad at it, right?
Listen, if these girls are going to see marks, if they're going to take advantage of those guys, that's fine.
But we always say this here, guys.
The world cannot stand it when a man has a decided advantage on the sexual marketplace, and that's the knowledge.
There are so many podcasts telling girls about what to look out for.
Stay away from this red flag.
Stay away from that red flag.
Yet, when guys like you, me, and you guys say, hey, these are the kinds of girls you need to stay away from.
We're called misogynistic, insecure, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Because they're all YouTube channels.
We're going to see later on Trevor Bauer.
Oh my god.
That was another level.
The other reason too why information like this is shadow banned or banned or canceled or whatever it may be is that the economy suffers when guys are aware of what the fuck's going on, right?
If a guy understands his value and understands his worth, he's not going to sit there and buy a girl a diamond ring that doesn't deserve it.
He's not going to go and take a girl that doesn't deserve nice dates on nice dates.
He's not going to take her to dinner and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars like...
If more guys thought like we did, the economy would probably shut down because women wouldn't be able to exploit men financially for the resources.
I see girls, dude, it's gotten to a point now where women are so brazen with their activities where they'll literally post on their Instagram like cash-ups that they're getting, trips that they're taking, etc.
They're literally putting it in your face.
Look at all these simps that support me simply because I am a woman, right?
And they don't care anymore.
They're not even hiding it.
You got girls on TikTok self-snitching all the time.
Yeah, female nature.
But the reason why is because so many guys are plugged in, sleepwalking through life.
They don't understand female nature.
They're watching us on kick on NeonStream saying, oh Myron, when it's like, no you idiot, it's L you guys because these women are literally taking you out to the cleaners and you don't know them better.
It's not until 10, 20, 15 years down the road they get married to this bimbo, lose all their money, figure out, wow, I probably made a mistake here.
I wiped up a fucking slut.
But had they watched our show before, we would have told them.
Never commit to promiscuous women for long-term relationships.
And there's YouTube channels for teaching women how to extract, you know, how to be sugar babies, how to extract money, how to finesse.
But also, because people may argue, people will watch this and they'll say, yeah, but you're just dealing with Miami girls and that's, it's different, blah, blah, blah.
It's not.
Troy, talk about that.
Please, Troy.
You've been all over the world.
You've literally been pretty much on almost every content on the face of this fucking planet.
Tell us about women in other places since they like to say, that's just Miami girls.
Real quick.
Let's go to Twitch.
We've said so many times.
Let's go to Twitch.
Yeah, we'll kill Twitch.
You mean kill Twitch.
Yeah, kill Twitch.
Yeah, but no, I mean, so I've traveled a lot.
I've been in Russia.
I've been in Ukraine.
I've been in all over Europe, obviously, like South America, here, like just all over the place.
And...
Women are women wherever you go.
That's right.
That's the reality of it.
I was talking to someone earlier about this.
There's this perception, oh, go to Eastern Europe and they're all super traditional, super sweet, super innocent.
They're not.
Absolutely not.
Those guys can be ruthless as hell.
So can the Latin girl.
So, I mean, no, this perception, oh, well, you're in Miami, there's a certain type of girl here.
I mean, that might be true.
I mean, there's obviously a certain type of girl who comes on this show or whatever.
But...
They've all got the propensity to operate in exactly the same way.
Maybe even these so-called traditional countries, particularly where the economy is maybe not as good, in a sense, those girls have even more incentive to be Machiavellian.
And the worst thing that happens, because we talk about this passport bro thing, the passport bro thing I think overall is good.
I don't see a problem with going where you're appreciating how it seems good, but a lot of guys do it wrong.
And they end up, you know, going on some scam marriage agency or getting fucked over.
And they expect American women to give a fuck.
That's the other thing too.
Guys, they don't give a shit that y'all are leaving.
I mean, do it!
But just don't think that American women are like, oh my god, there's an influx of men.
American women, look, it's funny.
When these passport bros go like, yeah, I'm going overseas and I'm going to get my Filipino wife.
That is like, that's like some fat bitch.
That's like a fat black woman say, you know what?
I'm not dating niggas no more.
I'm dating white boys.
Bye!
They do not give a shit.
You don't have to announce to the world that you're going to be a passport, bro.
Just fucking go do it.
Yeah, you don't need to make a thing about it.
It's your business.
Let me just go do it.
And if you make a thing about it, you're still trying to get the attention of the opposite sex, which means you're not really over it.
Just get your passport and get I killed it in the passport bro section.
It's low-key.
No one knows.
Yo, bro.
That's it.
Well, you know, in Miami.
I'm in Columbia.
There you go.
Because they know what it is.
Spreading it out like that makes awareness.
When we spread awareness, what happens?
People come to the country.
They're trashy.
They make it worse.
They're just killing the whole process itself by talking about it.
And that's really happened to the red pill.
The red pill has, let's face it, guys, it's gone mainstream.
Yeah.
And lately, we've had, over the past few years, we've had a lot of Johnny-come-lately red pill guys try to dip their toe in, it gets a little too hot, and then they figure out, I can't fuck with these guys like that anymore.
And they end up finding out really the hard way, but this is just how it is, man.
You can either choose to listen to us or not.
As far as the Passport Bros thing, right?
And I'll give people an analogy to this.
Let's say you're an NBA player in the United States.
You're maybe on the bench or something.
But you're an NBA player.
You've got some goddamn status.
You go into a party.
Oh, I play in the NBA. Oh, cool.
And a lot of these NBA players, I know this from dealing with some chicks.
A lot of them are simps, right?
They make a lot of mistakes when they deal with women.
However, their status allows women to kind of see past that.
And it lets them kind of stay in a relationship where they're dealing a little bit longer.
I would say that's a fairly functional equivalent to you going over to like Columbia or to the Philippines or one of these places, right?
You go to these places, you have higher perceived status, you're able to get away with more fuck-ups, right?
But does not change hypergamy.
Hypergamy is hypergamy regardless if you're in the United States, South America, Eastern Europe, Western Europe, it doesn't matter.
So if you're an NBA player in the U.S., right?
And you're getting girls in, but you're kind of like fucking up.
You're sipping here and there.
They still deal with you because of your status.
You got a amount of time, right?
But in these poorer countries, it's a similar thing.
But if you fuck up enough, they're still going to leave you if you sip enough.
You know what?
So James Tusk, shout out to James Tusk, my friend and colleague.
So he's traveled more than, I mean, he travels just 24-7.
He travels all the time.
And he said, even the so-called easy places, like you go to Thailand and you think, yeah, it's going to be, yeah, bro, we've got Thailand's going to be easy.
Obviously it is, but you've still got that higher echelon.
You've still got that top echelon.
And that top echelon, if you're a dork, you turn up in your fucking Walmart t-shirt or whatever, you're still going to break into that top echelon because hypergamy is hypergamy wherever you go.
And I really want to tell people this because they want to do the passport thing.
That's fine, but understand that it's not necessarily going to save you.
You just might be able to make more mistakes without, you know, Losing the game, right?
Like in the United States, right?
Let's say you're dealing with a really attractive girl that has a big Instagram following, whatever.
Well, you make a couple of mistakes and you're probably done because she has so many other options.
She understands, oh, I got the sexual marketplace under my fingertip.
But you go to like a Columbia, that girl might not have as many options.
So you'll be able to get away with more fuck-ups.
But my thing is you still have to understand female nature and know how to move.
It's just that going foreign gives you higher perceived status so you can fuck, make more mistakes.
But why make mistakes in the first place?
We had a friend, you know him very well, moved from Miami to Columbia.
He went to escape American women, because they would definitely be like...
He did what with the American women?
He went to escape.
Oh, of course.
Okay, I got it.
So, you know, Me Too movement, you know, being called by the police, all that stuff.
He wanted to avoid all that stuff, right?
Yeah.
Moved to Columbia.
Got a job online marketing.
Very successful.
Found a girlfriend.
Life threw up.
Year in.
Everything's great.
Perfect.
No issues.
Amazing, right?
Happy that he left America.
Come to find out, he stepped out, right?
And cheated with a different girl, apparently.
Okay.
And remember, he left America to avoid the Me Too movement, all this stuff.
Come to find out, the girl saw that he was talking to another girl, right?
Got upset.
He was a lesbian.
Paisa, well-raised woman, no issues at all, got upset, and you know, women are very feisty.
Yes, of course.
So, ends up calling the police on him, because she told him that he hit her.
Oh, no!
He left America to escape the whole issue, you know, All women are right, whatever.
Unbelievable.
Ended up happening in Columbia, the same said thing, and it's because he did something that she didn't like.
Yeah.
And she turned on him.
Instantly.
And she's probably never, I don't know, who knows, she might have heard of the hashtag MeToo movement, but it's just like what you're saying.
Nobody's safe.
Nobody's safe.
It doesn't matter where you go.
You're always there are always going.
They're always going to be risk.
There is much higher risk here in the United States.
There appears to be much less risk overseas.
You can either choose to deal with high risk women in the United States or lower risk women around the world.
But at the end of the day, I think a good litmus test for men dealing with American and foreign women is a law.
Lower risk women tend to reward good behaviors.
Send a slut a good morning text.
If you want a slut to stop texting, send her a good morning text and she won't text you.
Good morning, babe.
Yeah, exactly.
Morning, babe.
Right.
Now, if you just went out with a girl, send her a good morning text and she responds with, hey, you know, doing good, blah, blah, blah.
Can't wait to see you again.
Then she has potential.
Yeah.
But if a girl...
Game is for the broken, guys.
Game is for the broken.
If you have to use red pill game on a woman to get her to be attracted to you, she is broken.
Guess what?
I had to use red pill game to get my girlfriend, I don't know why, because Devin is broken.
Any woman in this country, any woman born...
I'm telling you, just keep it real.
I love you to death, Devin.
I love her to death.
I really do.
I've spent a lot of time with her, and our life is great.
Keeping it real.
Right!
But the reason why Game worked on her is because she was born and raised in the West.
Does this make her a bad person?
Absolutely not.
But what men have to understand is that fathers and mothers aren't raising women anymore.
It's incumbent upon you to train your woman.
It's been said, hasn't it, that Game and Red Pill as well, it's a response to the way society is.
If society wasn't the way it was, then there would be no need for any of this stuff.
Yeah, and I agree with you 100%, the controversial take as well, Donovan, that I've said it before, like, if you sleep with a girl, right, and she doesn't hit you back, there's a very high chance that she's fairly promiscuous, because typically if a girl has sex with a guy, even if she didn't, if she didn't like him all the way, or maybe it was like, well, no, actually, she must have liked you if she slept with you in the first place, if a girl isn't promiscuous in general.
So she would hit you back because she felt like she lost something.
There you go.
But, you know, once a girl has had a bunch of partners, she becomes desensitized, and it doesn't necessarily matter to her as much.
And she doesn't realize that a guy talking to her is a bigger loss than she even realizes at that point until later on down the line.
And the other thing, too, I agree, is if you give a girl chivalrous gentleman treatment and she punishes that, that is also a telltale sign she's more than likely a whore.
Do you know what we saw though when we were in Ukraine before the war?
You would go to Ukraine and regularly you would see dudes turning up for a date with flowers.
Can you imagine doing that in Miami?
Or if she doesn't like you at all.
Sterling mentioned that how in certain places you can treat a woman like a lady and it actually is appreciated.
There you go.
Versus in other places, it's punished.
Could you imagine for a second if I got a date with a girl here in Miami and I turned up with a bunch of flowers?
What's wrong with you?
Look, Troy, we're all here because we love you.
Okay, we know.
Listen, it's come to our attention that you have been bringing flowers on first dates.
Now, we have a counselor here to help you out.
We're going to send you to a treatment center.
Dude, it's awesome.
It's out in Palm Springs.
No simping.
It would actually be quite funny to do a series of videos with that, wouldn't it?
Turning up to the first date with flowers and seeing how the girls react.
That would be classic.
That would be classic.
Tell to the guys, for those that are watching, if a girl treats you poorly and when you treat her well, bro, she's probably a whore.
You're 100% right.
Listen, if you treat a woman like...
If a woman punishes you for treating her like a lady, she belongs to the streets.
That's it.
If a woman...
Here's the thing.
Women are not supposed to reward asshole behavior.
They're not supposed to.
But they've been programmed to, and that's why we're assholes.
Yeah.
No, but you're right.
But the problem is it's 99.9% of women in the Anglosphere, isn't it?
Yeah, real talk.
And so many men out here who have women, they think their women are somehow special or different.
Listen, I love my girl, but guess what?
My girl ain't special.
She's not different.
She's not unique.
She is the average rank-and-file American woman who I happen to be in the right place at the right time with the right lines, and we made it work.
But make no mistake about the fact that Devin is only the way she is because of me.
Because if I hadn't found Devin when I found her, her ass might have been up here in Miami before me.
There you go.
Real shit.
That doesn't make her a bad person, guys.
It just makes her a woman.
It is what it is.
Shout out to all these supporters here as well.
The dude was like, Devin's gonna get you for public embarrassment.
I wish he would.
I wish he wouldn't.
Nah, he's been doing this for years, guys.
He already knows.
He already knows.
He must be new here.
You're fuckin' new here, man.
You must be new here, yeah, right?
Oh my god, Donovan said what, dude?
Hi, FNF. I've been a big fan of your content for the last two years and started posting clips about a year ago as well as monetized lately, but for about a week now, Rumble has been striking the vids.
I really hope that we can continue to spread the message.
Okay, I appreciate that you sent that.
Yo, I actually spoke with dealing with Rumble right now to get you guys where you don't get strikes, so don't worry about it.
I know there's a couple of you clip channels that are posting videos and shorts.
I'm working right now to get y'all whitelisted, so don't worry.
Good, good.
I got you guys.
Don't worry.
Make your money guys.
Because my thing is this.
I look at it like this.
I don't care if I profit from it.
If you guys are able to put the message out and it helps people out or whatever and y'all are able to make money, but save a guy in the process?
Fuck it.
I don't need a dollar.
I'm happy with that.
We're all doing well.
What can you do with 10 million that you can't do with 12, you know?
There's some people that are, you know, I want every dollar of my content.
I get that too, but it's like, nah, the message is too important to just kind of just be like, no, it's only me.
It's like, nah, if other people want to put it out and it gets discovered...
Fuck it!
It gives us exposure, and then most importantly, it goes out to people that will probably need it.
There you go.
I don't need to make a dollar off everything.
And that's the difference between the real...
Well, hell, this is in any space.
The real ones versus the fake ones.
Yes, nobody works for free, but if somebody wants to use one of our videos, like, at this point, it doesn't matter anymore.
The more people see it, you know, the better.
Yeah, so don't worry, Back The Roots, I've already put a couple of channels on Rumble's radar as far as, like, allowing you guys to go ahead and post, okay?
That's cool.
I appreciate that.
Got y'all, man.
Name three countries donated $20.
Thank you so much for existing, guys.
Best podcast in the world.
IT guys from Italy here.
I can really appreciate the tech, and I've always put girls on a pedestal, even though I realize now they was worse than me.
Thank you for opening my eyes.
Love you guys.
Hey, bro, it doesn't matter where you're at, man.
Chicks are going to be hypergamous no matter what.
Fresh, I realize on the VC banner in the back why you don't have a chain is because you've posed as Ken Rosenberg like the loading screen.
Chris is Tommy Vercetti, which comes with the chain and glasses and Myron is Lance without the chain slash phone.
Thank you, bro.
That makes sense.
Damn, we got some GTA aces.
Man, he was right about that.
Okay, there you go.
Damn, all right.
As you guys can see, I got the Miami colors in the back and everything else like that, trying to keep the vibe going.
Pause.
We got here.
What are your guys' thoughts on Jada saying her and Will separated six years ago?
Nobody gives a fuck about what Jada says anymore, dude.
We get it.
She's a bad wife.
Look, man.
Jada is fucking...
She's alpha-widowed by a fucking ghost.
I don't even know if I like Tupac anymore, man.
Like, I used to like Tupac until Jada's kids were writing him fucking letters.
I'm like, you know what?
I used to like Tupac.
I don't fucking like him anymore because she's fucking with my boy Will, West Philly guy.
Nobody gives a shit about what Jada says anymore.
That's over and done with.
She is literally, like, she's the poster child, I would say, for ruining a man's reputation.
I would say Nina Agdahl is a close second.
There are a lot of them out here.
There's Jada, there's Nina, Nina Agdahl, then there's...
For those that are wondering, Nina is Logan's fiancée, who's been getting dragged.
Have they got married yet?
Dude, I would call off the wedding and fire him, but he ain't gonna do it.
He's not going to do it because on this side of the internet, we're like, yo, you need to call up the wedding, but the thing is that only a small percentage of men think the way that we do.
Most people are going to be like, you left her!
You're insecure!
You're toxic!
What do you mean?
Why does her past matter?
You know what?
Jesus Christ.
We can do this.
That's crazy, man.
He can marry her.
Have fun.
When it breaks down and ends, come on the podcast, brother.
Let's talk about it.
Let's talk about it, bro.
Look, you already know what time it is at that point, bro.
Do you not think after all of these pictures, all this stuff that's come out, though, he must be at some level thinking, hang on a minute.
In his subconscious, it's hitting him hard.
He can't in real life actually do anything.
Because sponsors, how it looks bad, it's going to look bad for his brand.
In both ways, but still.
And Nina knows this.
She knows that Logan can't.
She knows that there are now financial considerations.
Oh my god.
Just like changing the laws that protect men against female fuckery.
There are laws in place that our economy is dependent upon to extrapolate resources for men.
Do you guys think he signed a prenup?
What's that?
Do you think he signed a prenup?
I'm 50-50.
I don't know.
Part of me says he probably did because he is a smart businessman, but the other part of me says, ah, well, he was willing to get with her in the first place.
I don't think it's going to matter, man.
Because, you know, prenups routinely get thrown out, man.
Like, are you kidding me, dude?
Ay-yi-yi, Nina.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The best thing for Logan Paul to do...
And Logan, dude, you're a good-looking dude.
Pause.
I think that's what the kids say.
You're a good-looking dude who's a fighter, pause.
You know what I mean?
Well, he's a major, major celebrity.
He's a good-looking dude.
He could have 17 Ninas.
Yeah, thanks.
Why do these people get wifed up anyway?
I mean, that's the other question.
She's older than them.
She's in her 30s.
She's like, my age.
I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?
Why are you with a chick that, you know...
And the thing for her is that, see, she was...
Because she's my age.
So, like, 10 years ago, social media wasn't as big as it is now.
Right, right.
So she didn't think these pictures would come back to haunt her.
And I predict...
I predict a lot of these girls on OnlyFans and social media, whatever, that's doing all this shit.
I'm telling y'all, you guys are going to see in the next 10 to 20 years a bunch of girls regretting their fucking decisions.
Millennials are starting to hit the wall, guys.
Get ready.
In current time...
Because the OnlyFans are having trouble finding men to stay.
So imagine when you hit the wall.
Oh my goodness, bro.
You're right.
It's going to be chaos.
It's funny.
Depression, everything.
Men and women alike know that Nina Agdahl is not wife material.
And we know the reason why she's not wife material.
But if you reverse the genders, then it would be Logan catching the heat.
Oh, look at this old man preying on this poor young girl, just like Sam and Neon.
Women are protected from male nature.
Men are not protected from female nature.
Women are protected from male nature.
I'd argue, culturally, women are incentivized to exercise female nature in a predatory means.
They tell women, don't settle for less.
Get the best guy that you can.
Don't date a bum.
You know what I mean?
Men should be courting you, whatever.
You deserve the best.
We actually incentivize and encourage women to exercise their hypergamy, but you do not see society telling men, hey, exercise your options.
Hey, become successful so you don't have to deal with sluts.
Hey, watch out for promiscuous women.
Men are told, accept women no matter how they behave.
Women, however, are told, take the best guy for you.
And our economy quite literally depends upon it.
Do you think that's the bottom line then?
Do you think it's the money?
Follow the money?
I think a big part of the reason why we don't tell men the truth about female nature and that men need to date in a more preventative fashion is because there is financial incentive.
I mean, if you look at advertising, They target women.
I mean, the biggest example of this, and I use this all the time, is the Gillette commercial from a couple of years ago.
You have a male-dominated company.
80 to 90% of your clientele is male, yet you're going to go ahead and have the audacity to put a commercial out that shits on your target audience.
The only way I can see a company doing something like that is because they're that confident that women are still going to buy the razors because women are 80% of the consumer base.
So let me appeal to the females, even though my client base is male.
And Jilletta's still around.
I mean, Pat said it on the show, there's no something called an ESG score, where companies have to follow this format, and if they don't, they get kicked off the actual platform itself.
So, I mean, on some level, they have to follow guidelines, which is going to be, hey, post this.
If you don't post it, you're going to be off the radar.
Yeah, I mean, there's a podcast out there called, like, Kill All Men Podcast.
No one bats an eye.
Like, you can absolutely, like, be a misandrist, which, by the way, no one knows what the fucking, what that term is.
Nor can they spell it.
Yeah, but on the other hand, we got women running around saying misogyny, misogyny, misogyny, and they don't even know what it means.
They can't even describe it.
Well, and this is the issue with feminists, isn't it?
Because when I meet feminists, you know, and I know some here in Miami, and you say, so what is it now that you actually want?
Because surely, not only is there now equality, but actually, as we all know, in many ways, women have more rights than men in today's society.
So now, what are you pushing for now?
Isn't the fight over?
Unless you buy into the idea that they want this kind of supremacy.
This is what I do to stonewall these stupid feminists.
I say, name one right or privilege that men enjoy that women don't besides the ability to have sex with multiple women without judgment.
There's nothing.
Literally crickets, yeah.
But nothing.
And the thing is, I would argue women have more rights and privileges than men do because they're able to be independent and strong and operate like a man.
If they want, they want to chase a career, they want to have sex with impunity, whatever.
They can do whatever they want in that regard.
But they also reserve the right to say, you know what?
I want to be a stay-at-home mom.
I want a guy to take care of me.
So they're able to burn the candle at both ends of the stick, yet they don't acknowledge that or want to admit it.
And that's why I always say, privileges are visible to those that have it.
Women can get on OnlyFans and sexualize themselves and make money doing that too.
So they have more options than ever before.
And then complain about objectification.
There you go.
That's it.
Yeah.
Oh, men sexualize me.
No, if men sexualize you, there's no way men can sexualize you first unless you sexualize yourself.
That's right.
Personally, I don't have a massive problem with that side of things.
I think women can do what they want, but the problem is that men's behavior...
He's being pushed back.
And men are being demonised.
And we've seen that, obviously, in the case with the Trevor Bauer case and also Russell Brand.
There's so many cases now where male behaviour...
And listen, regardless of the allegations against Russell Brand, I don't know the truth about those specific things.
But I watched the documentary, the BB... Was it whatever they did in the UK about him, right?
And they were going back to some of his old jokes from Acts, you know, like...
Here we go.
10, 12 years ago, and they were playing this creepy, sinister music in the background.
It's like, oh my god, how terrible is this?
And these were jokes.
This was just him literally joking.
And now it's being presented as male behavior, it's so toxic, it's so sinister, it's so manipulative.
And it's like, well, not really.
I mean, this guy was, you know, he's a professional comedian, right?
And back then, And I find it funny to believe that they're saying these allegations are coming from 10 years ago when he was a fucking top tier A-list celebrity.
Of course.
He was everywhere.
He was married to Katy Perry, who at the time was on her A-game.
I find it very interesting that these women are saying, oh, he did this and that to me when he was at his peak.
It's like, no, you You probably wanted to smash it.
The documentary, right, the thing that struck me was there's the actual allegations themselves.
Okay, fair enough.
They're going to get looked into, whatever.
But also, the documentary was saying things like, oh, when he worked on this show and that show, he would get his team to go around and get the phone numbers of girls in the audience or give out his phone number to girls in the audience.
You know, as if this is this terrible thing.
And I'm like, well, that's just show business.
That's just what people fucking do.
And women are attractive.
Who does that?
Every A-list celebrity has a...
You guys want to hear something about successful guys?
Literally, or A-list celebs, they have a girl guy.
Yes, exactly.
And it's not as if these women are these unwilling participants, because they want to fuck him as well.
So, you know, the fact that that's been lumped in with the sort of, let's say, criminal allegations is disturbing, because it's the whole male behavior is being proscribed.
Well, we called it earlier.
Status and fame, women want.
However, once they get that guy with the status and fame, If they don't get what they want, now they're mad.
Oh, he grits me.
And now she has the status.
Have you seen the argument?
I've seen the argument being used on Twitter and stuff about, say, I don't know, a celebrity like Leonardo DiCaprio or whatever.
Legend.
Legend, bro.
Or any of these guys, and they'll say there's a power imbalance.
Yeah.
Again, because he's famous.
He's famous, he's got money, he's older, and she's a young woman.
Therefore, he's manipulating her because there's a power imbalance.
When the reality is, as we all know, women are attracted to that.
Yeah, that's what they want.
It's fucked up.
Plus, there's a power imbalance.
There's only a power imbalance at the top.
And I say this all the time.
Most women would not fuck most men.
They don't understand that they don't see these non-player characters in their peripherals.
They literally see themselves in a video game or a movie.
They think of themselves meeting Leonardo DiCaprio and a chance meeting at a grocery store, and the people that are walking by are the guy who changes their tires, the guy who flips the burgers.
They never think of these men.
So when they say dumb shit like there's a power imbalance, are you kidding me?
The average woman has more power on the sexual and dating marketplace than the average man.
But again, because when women talk about dating and men, they're only talking about the men they want to fuck, which are the top 10%.
Which is why they think there's a power imbalance because Leonardo DiCaprio actually just broke up with his girlfriend and got with another 25-year-old.
But nobody talks about the power imbalance of the 22-year-old girl who's posting on OnlyFans or she's posting and she's getting a load of money from these Sims.
Well, the economy, because that's bad for the economy.
That's what it is.
Well said.
Look, every kiss begins with K. The economy relies on the simp.
You made a point earlier.
David's Bridal shut down because they weren't getting enough- Of course not!
Yeah, they've been closing stores down.
Which is good.
I mean, I think that's- Yeah, bro, marriage is a failed institution.
It's a stupid institution.
And here's the other thing, too, because a lot of you guys- Oh, that lawyer debunked your argument because college women aren't necessarily going to- That lawyer was full of shit.
That's not the point.
The point is mentioning getting married in the fucking first place, but a lot of you guys sit there and let her deflect the argument and bring it over to, well, actually, college women are less likely to divorce.
Who gives a fuck?
Don't get married.
We're telling y'all, don't get married.
It's not in your best interest as a man to get married, even if you go ahead and get married with an educated woman that might have a lower propensity to divorce you.
It doesn't matter because the risk is not worth it.
Check this out.
Not only was that woman not a lawyer, she was absolutely full of shit.
None of the statistics she cited came from...
It's not even that.
Literally making up statistics on the fly to win an argument.
Nobody believes this bitch is a lawyer.
There's a reason she didn't tell you where she went to law school.
She didn't go to law school.
I'll show you my bar card now.
Bitch, a bar card is not a Snickers wrapper.
Shit!
Seriously, that's how stupid these women think we are.
I'm a lawyer.
I have two degrees.
I've got a rule.
You guys need to implement these rules.
All the girls around.
Okay, who has an OnlyFans?
Okay, OnlyFans, OnlyFans, OnlyFans.
I don't want to hear shit about anything else that you do for a living if you have OnlyFans.
Because they like to say, I'm a dentist.
I'm a painter.
I do skywriting.
I'm an architect.
I do OnlyFans.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which do you spend the most time on?
Well, I spend a lot of time with...
No, no, no, no, no.
Which do you...
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Deep down that it's not respected.
Of course not.
She might be a...
Let's say she was a lawyer.
Now you're the OnlyFans.
What are we going to say is bullshit.
This is why we know she's not a lawyer.
Because if you do what it takes to pass the bar exam, there is no way on God's degree on earth you are going to jeopardize your reputation by selling your asshole on OnlyFans for three bucks a month.
It's just not feasible.
That's why when she said she was a lawyer, I'm like, okay, her tits are way too big to be a lawyer and she doesn't really look like she can spell.
Fuck out of here, man.
Alright, we'll hit the chats again, man.
And then we'll cover the Trevor Barber case as well.
Okay.
Hey, Donovan, I remember your crazy story, NC story.
Oh, yeah.
It was the 19-year-old girl, the Amy girl.
No, I never did go back to visit because in 2010, that's when I left.
And I think I went back a couple years back.
Oh, by the way, she's in jail.
That's where she's at.
Nature of Law.
Hey guys, as always, WStream.
Just want to ask how long is too long a clip I can repost?
Been getting copyrights for no reason.
WFNF. Hey, man, try to keep it.
I mean, bro, for watch viewer time, bro, try to keep it under 15 minutes anyway.
Yeah, don't make it too egregious, right?
Yeah, don't make it too long.
Wayne!
Wayne, 500 bucks.
Great new studio, gentlemen, but fresh needs brighter lighting.
Still had the best podcast in the world.
I can see them, bro.
I think they're just trolling, man.
They can see all the craters in your face.
I know, I'm just kidding.
What else do we got here?
Thank you so much, Wayne.
It's good to have you back.
Ten bucks.
It's a great pod so far.
I met you guys with Marquette on Monday as we discussed.
I DMed Aaron and Fresh.
I have girls I could bring out to the pod.
I want to know what the next steps are.
Thank you for reading this message.
I don't know if Chris responded to you.
This is the problem with Chris, right?
I'm just telling you.
We get a connect for more girls.
What's Chris doing right now?
Deal with girls.
Playing games?
Sleeping!
That nigga no picking up the phone!
Anyhow, I sent your DM to Chris, so he should respond to you soon, hopefully, but hey, this nigga, I don't know what he's doing.
That nigga's a bum, bro.
Anyhow, move on, bro.
It's a great part so far.
T-shirts and stores, guys.
I met you guys with Marquette on Monday as we discussed.
Oh, no, sorry, I got that one.
B-man.
Bills call it.
What number should we go?
Are we 20 and up?
10 and up.
10 and up still?
Alright, 20 and up from here on out.
Bill's called it.
Okay.
B-Man goes, I tried looking for a Roosh V book, but you can't get it anywhere.
What is a good alternative for that book?
It's called Game.
You should be able to get it.
You can't get it on Amazon?
Well, he took everything down, didn't he?
But if you have a really good search online, I'm sure you can probably find it somewhere.
It's called Game.
And you can probably still get it on Audible.
Get it on Audible.
It's called Game.
What else?
We got...
Okay, that's from B-Man.
Okay, and then we got...
Shoutout FNF Team WPanel.
Absolutely, that's from Canton.
And guys, just so you all know...
I said this back in 2020 and I'm gonna, you know, stand on this because we've been getting some criticisms about bringing people on like Saint The Sinner, Donovan Sharpe, you know, Troy, blah, blah, blah.
You know, oh, they're bringing these, repeat the guests, blah, blah.
As we become more and more successful, we don't forget about those that took a chance on us when we weren't as successful.
I did my first podcast with Donovan back when I was a fucking nobody.
Troy let me on his channel when I wasn't a nobody.
So, we're not the type of guys where we become successful and we retract the ladder.
We extend the ladder for those that helped us in the beginning to even get the ladder in the first place.
So if you have an issue with my loyalty or the people that I bring on the show that supported me when no one fucking supported me and no one knew who the fuck I was, then don't fucking watch, bro!
Because over here, we exercise loyalty.
The people that were there with us from the beginning are going to continue to stay with us towards the end, and when we become more and more successful, we're going to raise everybody up.
We don't get famous and forget where the fuck we came from.
We came from this side of the internet.
We came from the Red Pill side of the internet, which is basically the truth.
I know it has a certain reputation right now, but Red Pill is nothing more than truth.
And we're giving you guys the truth on not just women, finances, lifestyle in general, and how to become the best version of yourself.
And these guys were instrumental in us growing.
So if you don't like that, fuck you.
Go watch something else.
Over here...
We don't forget about the guys that put us on.
Actually, these guys took a chance on us when no one else did.
Absolutely.
Just to say off camera.
I remember the conversation we had on the phone, dude.
To be that, I want to say you can't come back on would be disingenuous as creators.
That's messed up, so thank you for coming back.
No, we appreciate it, and I think one thing that you guys have shown us is that You guys are...
I mean, you guys are the red pills in your hands now, man.
Us old guys, we had our time.
But, I mean, with the production and the type of girls that you guys can attract to come onto the show, that really showed people...
This is the very first show that I can remember that shows people in real-time female nature.
In real-time.
That's why you guys have blown up.
I would have never thought of that.
So, shout out to you guys.
It was a genius move.
And, yeah, just to say, on my part, I'm always massively appreciative of you guys.
You guys are the most...
We're all going to grow together, man.
Whether it's you guys, John from Modern Life Dating, Rollo Tomasi, all the guys that I worked with in the past.
You guys literally took a chance on me when no one knew who the fuck I was, and I'll never forget that.
So I think it's very important.
And this is the other thing too.
Guys, this is an instrumental aspect of masculinity.
Loyalty and appreciating and respecting the people that put you on when you were a fucking nobody.
We live in this very snaky world where people become successful and they forget about the fucking people that put them on.
Once you get in a position to be successful, you bring those people up with you.
That's how it fucking goes.
We don't change or switch up.
We're the same fucking guys that we were back in 2020.
The fame hasn't changed us.
That's the one thing about being millennials that is cool about you guys.
I'm a Gen Xer.
We're both Gen Xers.
And loyalty is a big thing for people born in our generation.
But you don't see that much with guys like you.
Because there are a couple guys in Red Pill that became successful and they forgot.
And I'm not going to mention any names, but we're not on that type of time.
No, I'm with you 100% on that.
Yeah, that's for sure.
Okay, cool.
So, what do we got here?
We got Law of Distraction goes, Devin Meyer looking out for the bros clipping up.
P.S. I clipped for seven months before I made a single dollar, so I appreciate you letting us push the message and monetize.
Also, Zerka posts the short I made, aka I'm going global.
I got y'all.
Yeah, no worries, man.
Good job, man.
Keep growing your channel.
Make your money, bro.
We don't have an issue with it.
I know you guys don't like that Tradcon Arizona cop, but he showed up on the other pod in Cali and once meant to accept 304's high body count, so I literally muted his microphone.
Oh, they're talking about Officer Tatum.
Fucking loser.
Oh, Brandon Tatum?
Yeah.
What?
I thought Brandon Tatum was red-pilled.
Oh, no!
You know what?
It's funny.
Do you know who told me about Brandon Tatum?
It was O'Shea Duke Jackson.
Well, there we go.
That explains it.
Here's the thing, bro.
With these Tradcons and guys like him, they're completely unaware of how the dating marketplace has changed.
And they played a clip and he said, I didn't like Myron's advice on what he gave to Neon.
But you played it out of context.
You don't understand that this girl's an OnlyFans chick.
This guy is not sexually experienced.
He's a virgin.
And he's over here spending his time and energy on a girl that, quite frankly, doesn't really respect him and is exploiting him.
But that's what TradCons do.
They tell you, oh, you be a good man and accept whatever baggage that woman comes with.
Fuck out of here, man.
In today's day and age, religion and being a traditional conservative is not going to save you.
They're going to put you in a position of power and advantage because if the woman has the advantage, I promise you, she's going to make your life miserable.
But if you have the advantage, you're going to be in a position where, you know what?
She'll probably benefit from this because men are way less likely to do the worst part.
When you follow their advice, you get married to this woman, and you divorce, they say, oh, it's your fault for marrying her.
There you go.
I'm confused.
You just told me it was good advice to do the right thing.
But then the get out clause is always, yeah, you married the wrong woman.
You didn't vet her properly.
It's always the man's fault.
I met up with Nima earlier, Nima Yamini, and we were talking, and I was saying to him, because obviously he's happily married, he's got a daughter, it sounds like he's in a great situation.
But I was saying to him, I mean, one of the benefits that you've had is that, you know, you spent that time in New York, you were a club promoter, you were dealing with all these models and all that kind of stuff.
So he had that experience behind him.
The thing with the Tradcons, and you've got like Matt Walsh and who's the other dude, Ben Shapiro, all these dudes, you know, they basically just say, yeah, bro, marry her up.
Lose your virginity to your wife.
Marry her up.
Well, you know who took that advice was Hafiz.
Yeah, the problem with that advice is, even if it's well-intentioned, and I'm not sure that it is, I think they're just saying it because that's what they did, but even if it's well-intentioned, the problem is, a lot of these dudes who are young, they don't have the experience, so they'll wife up some girl, and then it makes...
Who's more sexy experience than them, more than I like them every time.
More sexy experience, probably, and then it fucks up five years later, and then they're in a worse position, you know?
Yeah, and the thing is, because this guy's been a fucking critic of ours for years, he's made videos calling us frauds, whatever...
Dude, you know what?
Officer Tatum, I'd be happy to have a debate with you on how you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
He won't come.
He won't come.
I'd be happy.
You know what, dude?
You can come on the show.
We can have a discussion about how unaware you are of the current dating marketplace.
You've been married for so many years.
You don't understand female nature, how women operate nowadays.
Here's my invitation to you.
We can go ahead and have that conversation because you've been talking shit for fucking years.
At the end of the day, you're an obese loser and no one gives a fuck what you got to say, bro.
If you ever get divorced, I'm going to roast your ass, nigga.
Marriage is not an institution set up for men to succeed in 2023.
If you can't acknowledge that and you want to sit here and push these Tradcon belief systems on guys that is going to set them up for eventual failure, then, dude, if you get divorced, I'm going to roast your ass.
Well, not only this, and somebody says Hafeez is a good guy.
I believe that Hafeez is a good guy.
He's a good guy who's made a very bad decision.
And see, a lot of people don't realize this.
You guys have to really pay attention to this.
If you watched last year, his demise, you can, number one, I believe he lost his virginity to his wife.
Number two, this man walked away from his multi-generational family religion to marry this girl.
Number three, they counseled with the pastor to do it.
Guys, pastors are not on your side.
Brandon Tatum's not on your side.
Hafiz is not on your side.
Well, why are you getting married, Donovan?
Yeah, the reason why I'm getting married is because I'm keeping the state out of it.
That's why.
Do not put pen to paper.
Marriage as an institution is a failed state in the Western Hemisphere.
And also as well, Donovan, you know what the fuck you're doing.
Oh, yeah.
Donovan has frame.
See, this is the problem that most tricons don't understand, right?
Without frame, you can't maintain that relationship to the max.
So what happens is you start good, but over time, what happens?
You lose frame, you lose focus, and then it's like, damn, this guy I married, I'm out.
Here's the difference between me and a lot of other people.
I tell the truth all the time when it comes to my woman.
I love my woman to death, but guys, I'm here to tell you, when I met Devin, she was being a hoe!
Like, that's what it is.
And she would tell you the same thing.
That doesn't mean I don't like her.
How can you say that?
It's because it's true.
Now, the reason I say it out loud is because I'm actually living this life, and you guys have to know that what I'm telling you guys is the truth.
But yeah, I mean, the only reason I know what I'm doing is because I did make mistakes with women like Sam.
I did make mistakes with the big-tittied fake lawyer.
Dude, I've been played by so many women over the years, and after a while, you can see them coming.
You can see the plan before it comes.
That's really, and what it really is about is about telling your woman the truth.
Guys, don't lie to your woman.
Be fucking honest with her and everybody else.
But Fresh makes a good point about frame, right?
Because I remember when I was like 20, I had a girlfriend.
I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
It just massively blew up in my face.
And then you come 20 years later.
You've dealt with so many women.
You know what you're doing.
But people will say marriage or long-term relationships is playing the game on hard mode.
And I agree with that.
It's actually easier, in some ways, to be, like, a bachelor who's going around and, you know, dealing with different girls, dating around, whatever.
It's actually, that's in some ways easier.
Because, I mean, a long-term relationship, dude, especially when you're living together.
Fuck, man.
You've got to be that guy.
You've got to be that guy every fucking day.
All the time.
24-7.
And if you're not, she smells weakness in the water, you know?
Listen, guys, this is not some act that we're telling you to...
This is why we always tell you guys, man, you have to take your time and vet these women, get out here, sleep with women, get your heart...
What you have to understand is this.
A man in the West will never be good with women if he has never been hurt by women.
Yes, it's fucked up to say that, but that's how it is.
You cannot be good with women until you know what they are truly capable of.
And the only way to know what they're truly I want to ask something to what you said earlier about context here regarding women.
Yeah.
Nowadays in America, especially in the West, women that you meet will not be a virgin or be this Saint Mary that you could just marry and have fun with.
No way.
It's going to be a woman that's probably had a pass, you know, maybe had like really bad stuff.
Now, as long as OnlyFans are being a stripper or being a full-on slut, I think on some level, if you can train her to kind of like avoid these or kind of like, I want to say, change habits, then it could work.
But once again, finding a virgin girl nowadays is going to be almost impossible.
What you just said there is, it's so apropos.
You're not out to change your woman.
You need to change her habits, okay?
Because a lot of people, when they hear me talk about the things that I won't tolerate, they say, well, you're trying to control your woman.
No, no, no, no, no.
I don't control my woman.
I don't give her ultimatums.
I give her choices.
Here are the activities that will end the relationship.
Here are the activities that will keep the relationship afloat.
If you stay on the left side right here, You're good to go.
You come over to the right, we're not.
That's all there is to it.
Listen, Devin, she is a single sentient being.
She is free to leave the cage that I have her locked up anytime I give her the combination.
Anytime I give her the combination.
But in all seriousness, a lot of people think that I'm this overbearing, you know, tyrannical.
No, I'm just very deliberate.
And I follow through with my threats.
I remember the very first time Devin and I talked on the phone.
And she was being a little bit weird, and I heard that she was maybe drinking something, right?
And I said, what the fuck's wrong with you?
Why are you being so weird?
Oh, you know, I'm having a vodka soda.
So I told her, okay, you're not going to talk to me on the phone if you're drinking.
If you do, I'm hanging up the phone.
So I hung up with her that night.
Called her up the next night.
I hear the ice in the glass.
I said, alright, you're drinking?
Alright, I gotta go.
I hung up the phone.
Guys, right there, that sets the tone.
Oh, this dude does what he says he's gonna do.
Now, most men don't do that because they say, well, if I do this, then I'm never gonna talk to her again.
That's why abundance is key.
And I'm going to tell you something else, too.
I know I'm being long-winded, but stay with me here.
It's easy for a nigga to have abundance when he's got, like, five side bitches.
It's another story when you actually care about the bitch, when the bitch lives with you.
Look, any man can hold frame in a situation in a nightclub, but can you hold frame with one woman, knowing that you're not out pursuing other women?
That's the difference between the men and the boys.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why frame in a long-term relationship, that's why marriage and long-term relationships are playing game on hard mode.
Yes!
Because when you're just dating around, when you're just dating random chicks, you can just, like, up and leave.
You don't have to, you know, you can be that mystery guy, you can be that super cool dude for a period of time and then fuck off again and go back to your, you know, wherever.
When you're there 24-7, you're there 24-7, you know, she sees you fucking putting out the laundry, going to the bathroom, whatever the fuck it is, it's like, it's very, very difficult to maintain.
You have to really, look...
I think just one thing.
I think Rollo Tomasi says it best.
It's not like you're gaming her the whole time.
It's like you have to become the game.
Yeah, that's it.
This isn't some act, guys.
You have to be this way.
And I see some guys in the chat, oh my god, you said Devin's a hoe, and oh, she's getting hit with shrapnel.
Y'all, look, check this out.
I have said far worse things to Devin in personal conversations.
And she's still with me, so it is what it is.
And I want to say this, too, because in the past, what, three minutes or so, the game that we gave y'all is some, you know, life-saving advice that you guys might be able to apply in your relationships with the girl, understanding that you need to have the leverage, you need to be the leader.
Certain women might not necessarily qualify for a relationship, but guys like Officer Taylor will sit there and tell you, no, treat all women with chivalry and respect.
Get out of here.
It's not 1950, so what I'll say is this.
He's been talking shit, calling us frauds for years.
And this is honestly the first time I've addressed this fat fuck.
So look, man, you want to go ahead and have a discussion and talk about it?
Well, we can talk about intersexual dynamics in 2023 and why we are actually out here giving guys value, saving lives.
I get DMs every single day about, hey, I was in this toxic relationship with this woman, blah, blah, blah.
I was able to walk away, etc.
We're giving real-life practical advice to men in 2023 on how to move versus reacting to people that are actually doing it.
We're actually proactively making content to save lives versus you're reacting to it.
So you know what?
How about me and you have a discussion and we can talk it out.
Because at the end of the day, dude, you've been talking shit for literally years calling us frauds.
So you know what, fat ass?
How about you come over to Miami and we can have that discussion.
Either put up or shut the fuck up.
Seriously, man.
These reaction channels are pissing me off because they sit here and call us frauds.
Explain to me what makes us frauds exactly.
I'm transparent about the money I make.
I'm transparent about my past.
I'm transparent about what I used to do for a living.
I wasn't a patrol officer.
I was actually a special agent, so I have way more law enforcement experience than you do.
So it's like, what do you want to talk about, man?
How am I a fraud?
Explain that to us.
How are we actually fraud?
Check this out.
I can tell you what we can do.
Well, there you go.
We get called all kinds of names, frauds, grifters, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Guys, the reason why we get called names is because people can't do what the fuck we do.
And people are fucking pissed about it.
They think, let's just decide to do a Miami After Hours podcast.
And they figure out that it's fucking hard.
And so they think to themselves they have to be doing something illegally to get all these girls all the time.
No, guys, it takes work.
It takes hard work.
Just because you have a smartphone and an opinion doesn't mean you're a fucking content creator.
Most people on YouTube are just fucking YouTubers.
Fuck outta here.
Yeah, man.
So we're actually changing lives.
But I'm tired of these reaction channels.
They've been talking shit since 2021.
And it's like, you know what, dude?
Let's have a discussion and talk about it.
One-on-one, baby.
Explain to me how we are actually frauds.
I'd love to hear it.
Because in this, how you could tell people just watch some of our content and react to it.
They don't watch the Money Mondays.
They don't see the daytime shows.
They don't see the guests that we bring in.
We don't see how I'm extremely transparent.
I tell you guys exactly how much money I make, properties I buy, etc.
Almost too much.
Almost too much, right?
First tells me all the time, bro, you give out too much information.
Fuck it, man.
I'm transparent with everything that I do.
I'm the same guy on and off camera, so please explain to me how I'm a fraud.
I want to see you tell me.
Listen, fraud is a placeholder term for trolls and haters.
That's all it is.
That is literally all it is.
Like grifter.
You know what the definition of a grifter is?
It's someone who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
What the fuck?
That's what a grifter is.
It's somebody who steals from other people on a very small and petty level.
We're not stealing from anybody.
Sorry.
I think a lot of it comes down to jealousy, too.
How we've been able to amass a massive amount of influence in a short period of time versus these guys have been on YouTube for a decade plus and they still suck and they're running a reaction channel reacting to people that are proactively making content.
Bro, you know what man?
I'm tired of this shit.
You wanna go ahead and cause frauds?
Come and let's have a discussion.
I'm happy to debate you on how you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to this realm of dealing with women in 2023.
The advice we dispense allows men to be in an advantageous position where everything is against them in today's day and age, especially when it comes to institution of marriage.
Well, it's got to come down to what value are you actually, not you, what value is the content creator actually bringing?
Are you just doing reaction clips for likes, for views and subscribers, or are you actually offering some solutions?
You know what I mean?
And like for me, I mean, if you want to talk about the old school, the old school like Red Pill, it was about solutions.
It was about, here's the situation, what do you do in order to have a good life?
What do you do in order to have a good dating life?
That's what it should be about.
He ain't coming though.
No, of course not.
He ain't coming.
You know what doesn't help you guys is every time Fresh by Zakari post it on Instagram.
Fresh is a fraud because he has four Lambos.
Very well said.
Well, now you get the G-Wagon, right?
You know what's funny?
So, my first time posting a car I bought in McLaren.
Yeah, I remember that.
I didn't get any hate at all, right?
All of a sudden I'm a scammer now.
I sell drugs.
I'm like the worst person in the world.
But like before I posted a car, there was no hate.
Oh, he's one of us.
You know, he's not doing anything crazy.
He's not buying a car.
But I realize if they can't do what you can do, they must be a scammer here.
I swear to God, man.
Because there's no way this is possible.
But for me, it's like, it's possible because I do it every single day.
Look, to me, it's this whole power distance index thing.
Yeah.
We have more in common with our followers and our fans than other celebrities do.
Or we have more in common, which means we have more in common with them.
What do I have in common with Tom Cruise?
Nothing.
He's been this movie star forever.
But we've started all of our YouTube careers as regular people.
We had regular jobs.
We did things before this.
And so when people see regular people go from rags to riches, They think it almost entitles them to...
They think that they're entitled to the same kind of success that we are.
And that's why they hate on us, because we're not really celebrities.
I got news for you guys.
YouTube, that's the new television.
You know what I did, bro?
I saw people with Lamborghinis, a good lifestyle, living way better than me.
I didn't hate.
I said, you know what?
How do I get there?
Exactly.
How to get there.
Exactly.
And I paid money to learn from these people, you know.
And over time, I got there.
Dude, I will never understand why another man will go into another man's chat who's clearly living a better life to go in and...
I just don't understand it.
I just don't get it.
No, it's comments and people who post under every single post that you do and they write stupid, they're flaming you.
It's like...
My first response is to feel sorry for them, to be honest.
Right.
Like, genuinely.
Because, like, what the fuck is going on in your life?
Yeah.
That's the best thing you've got to do.
That's the answer is nothing.
You know?
It's just, it's unbelievable that there are people who waste their energy with this shit.
And like you said, I mean, you should be using, you shouldn't hate on the people that are above you.
Or, not say above you, like, beyond you.
You should use that as fucking inspiration.
Motivation, yeah.
Yeah.
I'll never forget.
I saw Mr.
Organic back in the day.
Tall Guy Car Reviews.
Big YouTubers back in the day.
Huge.
And they'll post cars, lifestyle.
I'm like, these black dudes are doing it.
And they came from the bottom.
They came from the hood.
Made away from themselves on YouTube.
People hate on them all day.
I'm like, yo, why hate on these guys?
Yeah.
I DM'd him like a year before the podcast, right?
Obviously speaking, I reached out to him.
Yo, bro, you're like an inspiration to me.
You're amazing.
And he didn't respond, of course.
Reach out for the podcast, responded.
Yeah.
Met me and was like, yo, bro.
Everything that you did online that you taught me, motivated me, got me here today.
There you go, man.
It was like, full circle.
I didn't hate it.
I said, you know what?
I appreciate.
Over time, I hit him up.
He didn't respond, but when he came in person, we linked up.
It was like, you know what?
All that motivation that he did on his videos on YouTube and, for example, on Instagram, taught me, you know what?
I can do it, too.
You know what?
We owe our most ardent supporters an apology.
Well, you guys actually talk more about your supporters than your haters, but we give our haters way too much credit.
Your most critical detractors are going to be the loudest, while your most ardent supporters are probably not going to be so vocal.
If somebody has a bad experience at a restaurant, they're willing to tell 15 people.
Tell the world, yeah.
Yeah, right, but if they have a good experience, they tell two people.
That's just really what it is.
Haters wouldn't be anything if not for our supporters.
So thanks to you guys for supporting us, because without you, none of us are here.
There's a lot more silent supporters than there are.
Oh, 100%.
Because a lot of people that enjoy stuff, they don't even comment.
They're just watching, they're appreciating it.
It's just these fucking idiots.
This is a very small minority, vocal minority.
Yes, this is a Disney t-shirt.
It's Donald fucking Duck.
I'll hide the chats.
Donovan Sharpe's a fraud because he wore a Donald Duck t-shirt.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Here we go.
Yeah.
Are you guys seeing any decline in men in the gyms?
I just watched the YouTube video talking about 60% of men are boycotting gyms.
I work out so...
What?!
But do not go to the gym to do it, so I'm just not seeing this firsthand.
Well, who cares what the losers are doing, bro?
Yeah, what you gotta do?
The average American is fat, you know, can't even cover $500 without going into debt, doesn't have $1,000 saving.
Don't compare yourself to the average.
And that is scary.
Okay.
Because you know who's going in the gym?
Girls?
Yep.
Why can't you?
Why are guys doing...
Why are they boycotting gyms?
Myron, when are you doing a show on your hair transplant?
Good question.
I will probably do one for y'all.
I've been very open about...
Again, bro.
There it is.
I'm very open about everything.
My real estate deals, earnings, hair transplants, all that shit.
So it's like, when people call me a fraud, I take that shit personally.
You know what's funny?
I go out of my way to be transparent.
All of Myron's haters, he's literally leveled up.
On everything that they hated on.
Oh, you're too hard on girls.
A little bit softer.
What are you going to say next?
Nothing.
Oh, you're too Myron?
You can never, look, you can never satisfy haters.
They will always find a reason to hate on you.
You could be, it's funny, if you listen, it's almost like in sports, and I guess we'll transition this way.
There's a famous saying in sports, if you listen to the fans, because you know, fans short for fanatic.
Yes.
If quarterback A has a bad game, fans are like, oh, we gotta get him out of here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
GMs talk to each other, general managers.
If you listen to the fans, eventually you will be sitting with them.
Facts.
That's how it goes.
You see what I'm saying?
So if we did everything these haters told us to do to increase our value in their eyes, guess what?
We're gonna end up like y'all.
So no, I don't wanna be like you guys.
Fuck you guys.
To me, I like winning.
I like driving fast cars.
If you're not above me on a podcasting game or someone that's like actually on that level, I don't hear what you gotta say.
Real talk.
Ain't nobody above you, Fresh.
Like, you the man.
No, no, no.
I'm so low, but I'm just saying.
I mean, I take criticism from everybody if it's valid.
Like, you know, you guys were like, hey, you know, you guys get better cameras, internet connection and stuff.
And I was like, you know what?
Yeah, we can do this.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, I listen to all criticisms.
I read the comments, even though they tell you all the time, don't read the comments.
But I do it because there are valid criticisms in there on top of all the hating.
But, you know, it is what it is.
And that's probably why you guys are at one and a half million subs now.
It's because you do read the comments.
No, I appreciate that, man.
Yeah, of course.
But yeah, as far as these guys that keep making reaction content to what us, bro, you know what, man?
Let's have a discussion.
Tell me how I'm a fraud to my face.
Let's have that discussion.
They don't want to do that.
What else we got here?
Jada belonged to the cancer ward.
Oh, man.
We got here.
WStream is always also Chris looks like the type of guy that smacks his own ass during sex.
Yeah!
I got it.
Just so you guys know, if you're a part of Castle Club, you're able to go ahead and get your chat read.
You guys are probably looking at it.
They're only donating five bucks.
But yeah, on Castle Club, guys, we read all the donations.
Yes.
Guys, Monday was fire.
Great knowledge, conversation on a daytime show, and of course, four hours of female delusion at night.
Shout out to all you gentlemen for the info you provide us, men, to stay RP aware.
Shout out to you, man.
We'll give you all solutions over here versus just making reaction content.
Is Mexico a good place for a passport wife, or are they corrupted like the U.S.? Wait, what was the question?
This is for Troy.
I was just there.
I mean, it's, you know, women are women everywhere, man.
I mean, yeah, there's some cool girls in Mexico.
There's some good girls.
Probably, on average, I would say probably a bit more traditional.
You're more likely to meet that sort of super sweet, you know, kind of wifey material woman.
But, I mean, Jesus Christ, man.
You know?
I mean, there's plenty of women on OnlyFans over there.
There's plenty of women on the, you know, the sugar sites.
You're going to buy bullshit no matter what.
Everybody's safe.
I think what a lot of guys need to understand is that women are the same.
They have the same hard drive everywhere.
It doesn't matter whether she lives in the United States of America, South America, or is on the Avenue of the Americas.
Women worldwide respond favorably to masculinity.
Right.
They respond to the same things.
Now, women in the West, they tend to end relationships for much more petty reasons because they're inundated with dick all the time.
Whereas a girl in maybe a third world country wouldn't be She's so quick to do that because she doesn't have the options.
But women are going to be women no matter where you go.
And if you don't show masculinity, women aren't going to be attracted to you, whether you're here, the Philippines, or Thailand.
It just doesn't matter.
It's almost like bears.
Polar bear, grizzly bear, bear in the woods.
Still just a bear.
But if you provoke them, they will attack you.
Right.
That's a good point.
So there's polar bears, there's the grizzly bear, and there's the black bear.
Okay, so they're all different, but you wouldn't go up and fucking poke a bear.
It doesn't matter what kind of bear they are.
If you kind of push your buttons too much, they're going to turn on you eventually.
Just like your boy in Colombia.
Gotcha!
She called the cops and said, hey, he's hitting me.
There it is.
And I had a terrible story about somebody in Argentina.
Something very similar happened to as well.
Nobody's safe, bro.
I mean, to be fair, look at Andrew.
He was all the way in Romania.
They came to him.
That's crazy, bro.
Crazy.
And lied.
Yeah.
Fucking lies, man.
Yo, fuck Bears, bro.
Yeah.
What else do we got here?
Now we're mad at Bears.
This came in from before?
Yeah.
Alright, Neon looks like Myron's younger brother from Wish.com.
Appreciate it, bye.
Luke Redpill Perry goes, Shad's a big Donovan Sharp in the building.
Shad's to you, bro.
Shad's Donovan.
Can we please get a Donovan Marco for Donovan's 95% discount?
I'm a perfect this, and make sure your message gets heard around the world, value and saving lives, money, respect to you, man.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I got you.
W, new studio, 4K, keep going, FNF, absolutely, bro.
Like I said before, they hate on us because we've surpassed them.
Yo, what's up, Serskies?
Serskies!
Thank you, players, players, I appreciate that.
What up, Cody?
Albo goes, City Girls got a new album coming out called Raw, Real Ass Whores.
These are who these young women of the world look up to.
Also glad to see Donovan and Troy back.
Absolutely, man, I'm happy to bring them back.
Yeah, guys, since the last time we spoke, hey, Fresh, do you still keep in touch with the single mom, also turns out the girl I was dealing with, Narcissus Man.
She was a rollercoaster, Narcissus Awareness.
Actually, I never spoke about it, but I did DM my ex-wife, the single mom.
She DMed me, actually.
And she's doing well.
Remarried, you know, married a guy with a kid.
And I just remember back in the day, mistakes, you know, I definitely did things I didn't know, you know, were right or wrong, so to speak.
And I realized in that same marriage, if I stayed longer than I thought I could handle, the frame I had couldn't handle that.
No.
At all.
So me leaving...
It was the best thing I could have done.
Good.
And luckily for me, I found a video online from Tom Likas.
I was sitting in my car one day.
Oh, this was your Red Pill Awakening?
How about that?
I found SoulTV84, you, King Riches, Tom Likas.
And that collection of videos saved my life, bro.
Unbelievable.
Because again, frame, that whole time, I didn't even know what I was doing.
I just said, you know what?
Because of religion, and I wanted to be right, I married because that was the right thing to do.
There you go.
There you go.
They say, well, if you want to find a good traditional girl, you got to go into the church in the South.
No!
Girls in the South are epic whores, just like they are up in New York City.
The divorce right amongst church girls is still pretty hard.
Oh, dude!
Dude, church girls are some of the biggest homes out there, fam!
You know what happens?
They party on Saturday and go on Sunday.
And I'm like...
They'd be at the club on Saturday and be at church on Sunday.
What's going on here, bro?
Real shit!
Real shit!
And go on Sundays.
Bro.
Hey, hoeing for Christ.
And just so you know, we're going to go ahead and kill Facebook.
So guys, come on over to either YouTube or Rumble to watch the stream.
We'll stay up on YouTube and Rumble as well.
This is why we're relatable.
No one here is perfect.
No.
We all make mistakes.
Of course.
Every corner.
But we learn from them and move forward.
Absolutely.
And what else do we got here?
We're back to Rants.
South is full of whores.
Hell yeah.
And guys, from this point forward, we'll go 50 and up.
So yeah, guys, since the last time we spoke...
He's right about overseas girls, man.
They predatory.
Also like the men.
Narcissism is a hell of a thing, man.
I didn't know what narcissism is, man.
I was in the dwelling period for this whole week.
Tips on how to.
I think people need to...
I think people need to...
I think we use words like narcissism too freely.
Yeah.
Um...
Because, dude, narcissism, that's another level.
But girls have so many narcissistic tendencies that people think that girls are now actually narcissists.
Well, it's a clinical term, isn't it?
Yeah.
Which isn't always going to be applicable.
Of course.
Of course.
And guys, do me a favor.
We got almost 10,000 of y'all watching between YouTube and Rumble.
Do me a favor, guys, and open up YouTube screen and hit the like button on there because as you guys know, we split the audience so that kind of hurts us a little bit in the outgo because we want to make sure that we are able to give you guys content on both platforms.
So if we do want to get raw, whatever, pause, we can go ahead and go to Rumble.
So we like to leave that option open.
But help us with YouTube outgo, guys, and go ahead and open up a window, go on YouTube, and then hit the like button.
But I'll be honest with y'all, the quality on Rumble is better, because you can watch it from 1920, and you guys can actually see the full power of these cameras, and it's way better quality.
What Myron just told you, drug references, if you want, or drugs that haven't been stepped on 20 times, come over to Rumble.
There you go.
We'll tell you all about it.
Yep.
What else do we got here?
We'll open up a tab on YouTube, because YouTube is a discovery app.
Curtains are pimping.
W? Yeah, guys, these are sound curtains, man.
It took me a while to get them, but we got them.
Shout out to Bills for telling me to get them.
Let's not forget that women are bad with money.
Lots of OF clothes are going to be broke.
They will not be able to get regular jobs after they lose everything.
That's true.
Hell no.
Take a guess goes, any advice for my little brother sitting next to me?
He's 19 and just started in the trades as an apprentice learning HVAC of plumbing, working with me.
Should he worry about women?
No.
No, just focus on making more money and becoming successful.
Tell your little brother to get in the gym.
Do get as much money and as much muscles as you possibly can.
And don't think about committing to a woman until you are at least 35 years old and you have fucked at least 35 women or in Myron's scale of 50.
People go crazy on that number, but my thing is at least be in a position where sex is no longer novelty to you.
I like it when guys are like, oh, so if I have sex with 49 women, I'm not ready?
No, you fucking idiot.
You're not ready.
No, you're not fucking ready.
Common sense isn't common.
Swear to God.
I just want guys to be in a position where sex doesn't influence their decisions.
And especially when you're making a decision as important as, you know, taking a girl seriously or committing to her or marrying her.
Like, I don't want you to go in there with a tradcon thinking like, I can save this girl and oh my God, sex is so sacred, whatever.
It's not 1951 anymore, man.
Sex is not sacred.
The thing is, the first few times you have sex, you think it's this fucking amazing big deal.
And then, you know, you need to get beyond that phase where you're like, yeah, it's great, but it's not the fucking be-all and end-all.
Absolutely.
I think the first time I had sex, I lasted like maybe five seconds.
Greatest five seconds of my life.
And her.
Yes, yes, yes.
Love you, Allison.
Appreciate it.
Hey, guys, we only got 822 likes on YouTube, man.
We should be at 3,000 likes at least, man.
I'm bringing some OGs back for y'all.
We went ahead and, you know, showed you guys why Officer Tatum is capped.
Don't know what he's talking about.
We're talking about different topics.
The other thing I want to touch on before we hit the MLB situation is, is the Red Pill dead in your guys' opinion?
People have been bashing it, talking shit about it.
I want to get your guys' take on it as well.
Roland Tomasi in the house, he goes.
People say the Red Pillow's dead, but I'm heading to Dubai and Kenya to do talks with men in Nairobi next month.
The Red Pillow's an idea whose time has come.
Love my brothers Donovan, Troy, Fresh, and Maren, and Moe, Chris, and Icy.
Roland!
Roland's gonna be here...
Fresh, you spoke with him last.
Was he going to be here?
He's going to be here soon.
Pretty soon with a special guest.
Sometime this month, guys.
Yeah.
So shout-out to all that's Maskey in the house.
And then people...
What else do we got here?
Anything else?
Oh, and then Jacob.
And these are the last three Rumble Rants here.
Thanks, Donovan, for the discount on your books and for answering questions for the group.
Can you speak on this saying asshole behavior is the closest to masculine women could get now in days?
Oh, yeah.
So...
So I'll try to distill this as much as I can.
The reason why asshole game works on modern women is because masculinity has been legislated out of male behavior.
So when a man is actually a genuine asshole, that's the closest thing they ever...
And when you're unapologetically truthful, you come off as an asshole.
So when a girl says he's an asshole, that's really her hindbrain telling her that's really masculinity.
Although everybody around you is telling you that he's an asshole, you still can't figure out why he's the last thing you think about when you go to bed at night.
It's because by him being an asshole, that's the closest thing you've seen...
As far as masculinity for the last five years.
Yeah, I think this term arsehole, it gets...
I mean, obviously it gets a bad press because people are like, oh, so you're saying you've got to be really, really this horrible person.
And I don't see it like that.
I don't see it like that myself.
I see it as having boundaries and going for what you want, not what other people want, and not taking any shit.
And that's basically what it comes down to.
And some people are going to perceive that as you being an arsehole.
It's not really.
It's just you looking after yourself.
Guys need to be more selfish.
Guys need to put themselves first more.
You know what I'm saying?
Because too often we put the woman first, or we put other people first.
We're like, oh, what's this person gonna think?
What's that kind of person gonna think?
You shouldn't be doing that.
You should be putting yourself first, because we only get one life.
Absolutely.
I agree.
And then we got here, Jay Ichiban.
Y'all add Big Mo to the outro?
It could be him walking towards a Popeyes.
That's funny.
Chris walking towards a homeless shelter.
A real bum.
Chris walking towards a speech class.
Mining with a sword and a bag of rocks.
Toward through a forest.
Okay.
Okay.
That's funny.
A little funny trolling there.
Ken Rose.
Ken Rose, I swear to God, he never says anything.
Shout out to Ken.
Appreciate it, Ken.
Show love.
Any more?
Ken Rose is the silent version of Red Pill Mike.
Rest in peace.
Topshay, $100 says, What's good, my G? D-Sharp and Troy.
Myron Fresh, Chris.
Joe Haitian, Mo.
Myron, when is the next meeting with Ryan Dawson on Scott Ritter?
I think this may convoy to PBD Podcasts.
What's next meeting with Ryan and Scott?
Might have him on Friday.
Might have him this Friday to talk about the situation over at, you know, a certain land.
But that's going to be Rumble 100% only.
We will not have that podcast on YouTube whatsoever.
So, yeah.
Because the mainstream media has been reporting a bunch of this stuff as far as that conflict goes.
But I'm thinking potentially this Friday with Ritter and Ryan Dawson both together.
I'm still scheduling it out, so don't hold me to it, but we'll see what happens.
Donovan, remind me you and Devin aren't getting a marriage license, but rather just having a ceremony.
Guys, please dive into this topic a lot more.
Love your work.
I'll distill this down into 15 seconds.
Devin and I, we're doing everything but signing papers.
We're doing the cake.
We're exchanging vows.
We're exchanging rings.
We're going to have the party, and she gets to wear the dress, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But we're not getting the state involved.
Now, I know some people are like, well, she can still take half of everything, gentlemen.
There is no such thing as a risk-free proposition, okay?
When women deal with men, they are taking certain risks.
When men deal with women, we take certain risks.
Now, what men have to do in 2023, we have to do many things to mitigate our risk.
One such way is to not sign papers, number one.
Number two, make sure the lease is in your name, not her name.
And number three, do not live or plan to live in a common law marriage state.
So that's what...
That's what that is.
So from now on, from Sunday on, I'm going to call Devin, my wife.
She's going to call me her husband.
And guess what?
If she goes to the bathroom with her phone, the marriage is fucking over.
And if you guys think I'm fucking around, I'll tell you guys a quick story.
This is awesome.
Watch this.
So we're at Chase.
And they were trying to pitch us a bunch of new fucking products or whatever.
And I remember I said to Devin, because we were in the room with our banker and one of the executives, I said, that's a good idea.
She's like, it's the only kind I have.
And I was like, oh, okay.
So I got on my live, and I told Devin, I said, Devin, your ass is going to come up.
I'm gonna mute.
You're gonna come up here.
You're gonna tell me what the fuck you did wrong because if you pretend you don't know what the fuck you did wrong, you're fucking gone.
Dude, she came into the studio.
She's like, yeah, I made that joke.
I say exactly.
Don't let it fucking happen again.
Well, why didn't you dump her den, Donovan?
Well, because it had been like three and a half years since she had fucked up.
Had to give her a little bit of space.
But guys, you have to be ready to walk away at any time.
And if I were to ever walk away from Devin, guys, it would gut me.
If she were to leave me, it would fucking gut me.
But I'll survive.
Yeah.
Look, I love her.
Like, the love that I have for her is real.
But I can live without her.
That's the importance of having love for women versus being in love with a woman.
So you need to be able to exercise those boundaries, guys, because women will test you.
And that's the thing with marriage.
You lose footing, you lose leverage, and then that's when the disrespect happens.
I will tell you this, too.
Without a frame, you can't do that.
Look, I will tell you, I will keep it all the way real.
Well, a state-run marriage.
No, but estate-run marriage.
But when I compare myself now to where I was when we first moved in together, I don't have as much of an edge.
And it's not that I don't have the edge.
It's just that, well, she's been trained properly.
I mean, I can't remember the last time I had to raise my voice at her.
Every once in a while I have to correct her, but I haven't aired her out because she knows the program.
And now after seven and a half years, I'm like, okay, I'm going to give you the title of wife.
But make no mistake, easy come, easy go.
The same rules still apply.
Just because I call you my wife does not mean that you're getting back on social media.
Fuck that.
Damn.
Seven and a half years, man.
God damn, nigga.
Had to vet the bitch, man.
Alright, what do we got here?
What's up next?
We got...
B-Man.
They banned Roosh's V-Book.
Is there any other book that gives you the same knowledge?
I know his bang books got banned, but I think the game one, y'all should be able to find it.
I think Roosh himself took down a lot of his books.
Even Lady got took down, too.
Oh, Lady Got Taken Down?
Yeah.
Damn.
That's the book for women that he wrote on how to not be a 304.
Endgame as well.
Okay.
What else do we got here?
We're caught up?
Cool.
So, let's go ahead.
I know, guys, it's been a while, but let's go ahead and get into the topic at hand.
Is the RP dying?
Yeah, the RP dying and then the HRP thing.
Yeah.
So, in your words...
Is the RP dying?
No, because like Rollo said, I mean, you can't kill an idea, you know?
And it's an idea.
I mean, you could...
So Rollo was talking about this on a stream the other day, and I thought it was very...
Accurate what he said.
I mean, you could get rid of people.
You could get rid of Rollo Tomasi.
You could get, you know, you could take down Freshman Fiat.
You could take down whatever.
It's not going to take away the fundamental truths of what's being discussed, right?
And that can never go.
Because these are, you know, truths, I mean, whatever you want to call it.
I mean, these are just realities about human nature, right?
And they've been around for fucking years, fucking centuries.
I mean, you know, you read old fucking Victorian books.
You read Shakespeare shit.
I mean, there's, you know, the idea of hypergamy, the idea that women cheat, the idea of dishonesty in relationships, all this kind of shit.
It's not new.
It's not going to go away.
It's just human nature.
It's just that we're talking about it.
So no, I don't think it's dying.
I don't think it's possible for it to die.
I think the red pill is never going to die, because the red pill is just practical truth, man.
I think the reason why we ask, is the red pill dying, is because that's the narrative they want to spin in the West.
Is the red pill dying?
The red pill's not going anywhere.
And get this, the red pill was around before we gave it a name.
Yes.
Guys, it was called masculinity.
That's all we're doing.
All we're doing is telling you guys, look, be more selfish with yourself and be more honest with women and you will live a better life.
In my opinion, I think the RP isn't dying, but it can be silenced and censored.
Absolutely.
If you can quiet it down, you can put people out, but you can't really destroy an idea.
Absolutely.
What you could say is, depending on how you're defining Red Pill, if you're talking about...
The red pill as a sort of entertainment phenomenon.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think it's dying because obviously look at the success you guys are having in various other platforms.
Of course.
But you could say at some point, maybe it will become less fashionable.
It goes for a period where it's really fashionable.
Maybe it becomes slightly less fashionable for a while.
But the fundamental idea is not going to fucking ever go anywhere.
Yeah.
Because how can it?
None of us will be here forever.
No.
But the ideas that we put out there will be there.
So I think on that level, it'll stay alive.
But yeah, I think...
We're doing good, man.
Robo's getting ready to do a talk in Nairobi, man.
That's crazy.
Dude, Red Pill's not going anywhere.
Yeah.
I also think, actually, you could argue maybe it's going to grow because, actually, this sexual marketplace is only going to get worse.
It's only going to get tougher, isn't it?
It is.
All this stuff that we're talking about, social media, OnlyFans, sugar dating, sex robots.
Yeah, I mean, it's only going to get harder for the average dude in the street.
As much as we are collectively losers as men, we're still solutions-oriented people.
What works and what doesn't?
They're going to call whatever that is, whatever pill that is.
It's going to have to be the truth.
Yeah, my take on it is it's only going to get worse because the thing is people don't understand.
And this is where the Tradcons fuck up.
And I'd be happy to debate any Tradcon, whether they're from Daily Wire or wherever.
We actually had a talk about this on Steven Crowder's podcast as well, Ladder Crowder, where we had some disagreements on it.
But I'd be happy to talk with any Tradcon about it, a traditional conservative, because the reality is Tradcons give you guys advice that's dated.
It's the equivalent to literally going in a gunfight with a butter knife.
Women don't operate like they did in 1953.
It's 2023 and we live in a globalized sexual marketplace where sex is now deregulated, which means basically women control the sexual marketplace and you can hook up with anyone assuming age of consent is met.
So with females, if you leave women to their own devices, what do they do?
They pick the best guy that they absolutely can, right?
And Since they control sexual relationships in that degree, men don't have much leverage.
So the only way as a guy you're really going to stand out is you need to be pretty damn good at something, whether you've got a lot of charisma, you've got a lot of charm, you've got a lot of game, maybe you're a funny guy or a good-looking guy, maybe you've got money, or maybe a combination of all of it.
You need to be...
of well-rounded man nowadays.
It used to be you could be an average guy, you know, one salary, you know, you make your 20k per year in the 1970s, whatever it is, you'd be able to have a family, a home, support a family on one income.
That's gone now thanks to feminism.
Yeah, the world is flat now.
Since women have entered the workplace, they make their own money.
Hypergamy has been Sensationalized.
And most women don't find most men attractive because it is what it is because since women make their own money, they don't need you anymore.
And what I tell guys all the time so that they can have a functional equivalent, imagine that you have a bad bitch with you at all times.
She sucks your dick, she cooks for you, she cleans for you, she gives you sex whenever you want, she's always available.
Ask yourself, would you sit there and tolerate fuckery from women in the day and age?
In the modern day day and age?
The answer is no.
Of course not.
Because you got a bad bitch at home.
That's exactly how modern day women feel about men.
I make my own money.
I don't need to fucking deal with you.
I'm going to go for the top guy.
My resources are met, so therefore now I'm just going to find a guy that stimulates me emotionally, whatever, which is why women ride the carousel for a while, then they go ahead and get that safety later on.
But guys need to understand this and know that the traditional conservative playbook doesn't work in 2023 anymore, which is why...
If you look at the numbers, you look at the stats, marriage is no longer in a man's best interest.
You take a bunch of risk for not much reward.
If anything, you're putting your balls on the line to lose everything because we know women in general typically date a guy or marry a guy that makes 56% more than they do financially.
So you're going to be on the hook if something were to happen.
And on top of that, she could be a traditional religious woman, God-fearing and all that shit.
As soon as you piss her off, what does she do?
Now she becomes a liberal.
She a feminist now.
Boom!
Next thing you know, money gone.
It's over for you because now she's going to go ahead and be able to Observe the feminist mindset because what?
I told y'all this before.
Women reserve the right to act like a woman when they want to, and they reserve the right to act like a man when they want to, be a feminist when they want to, be a traditional conservative when they want to.
It's not good for you.
They can switch the game up at any time.
You're thinking over here, I'm playing chess, bitch switches to Chinese checkers.
It's over for you.
So what I tell guys is the traditional conservative thing, even though I agree with it, the nuclear family is important, marriage is a great institution before And obviously, if you're going to raise children, it's the best way to do it.
But if you are going to do it, you better make sure that the state's not involved like Donovan's doing it.
But in general, it's not practical for most men.
So we tell you guys the reality of what it is.
And traditional conservatives are not caught up to the globalized sexual marketplace.
I mean, these guys are barely catching on to women being on Instagram, women being on sugar sites, women traveling, flying out.
They don't even know, oh, what?
Women do this?
You should marry a virgin.
It ain't going to happen.
Jesus.
And if you are a virgin as a guy, you significantly limit your ability to maintain frame with a female.
It was so bad, they thought Tinder was the way to meet girls.
What the fuck?
Yeah, they were really outdated.
So it's like, dude, we're way beyond that, man.
So it's like, when guys like, you know, Officer Tatum or these tradcons come for me and they'll say all this old shit, you're frauds, you guys give bad advice, blah, blah, blah.
It's very obvious you are not involved in the current sexual marketplace.
And that's fine, you're married.
But shut the fuck up, because you don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I think having a bunch of dudes, if you look at the Daily Wire guys, you've got a bunch of dudes, basically in their 30s, who've been married for, you know...
A better part of a decade.
Yeah, a better part of a decade, but it's still not the really hard yards.
Because then you look at Crowder and you're like, well, you never know when that shit's going to blow up.
And I'm not saying I wish that on anybody.
I hope it all works out great for them.
But, I mean, long-term fucking monogamy with one person with a legal contract is a fucking difficult thing for anybody.
And the world is changing at an exponential rate.
And women are being presented with all of these opportunities, all of this social, you know, cultural conditioning of like, yeah, man, you know, you only get, basically, you know, live your life, you go girl, all that kind of shit.
Plus, you know, everything we're seeing on Instagram, everything we're seeing in the media.
And there's no, and there's actually incentive.
The deck is stacked against men, man.
It is stacked all day.
And there's actual incentive.
In practice, to divorce.
So, I mean, that's what you're up against.
Listen, listen, listen.
The reason why men shouldn't get married is because women are now paid to leave.
They are incentivized to leave their husbands.
Cash, prices...
The problem is...
Sorry.
By the way, we were in Texas for an interview with Carter, right?
Yeah.
Great interview.
Amazing time.
Yeah, it was good.
You guys did very well.
But it was apparent because they were talking about old strategies to get women.
There you go.
Because obviously they're more mature, they're married, whatever.
But in the real world, like, guys, you can marry a girl that's in church, a good girl, so to speak, right?
Yeah.
So to speak.
And she's good in that moment.
The moment she gets a TikTok, Instagram, sees girls flying out to Dubai, sees certain things that you can't afford, saying, oh, my man does this for me.
You don't do that.
She can switch in an instant.
And that one interaction with social media changed her whole perspective.
So to me, it's like that level of, like, switch, I want to say, opportunity that's there for women to, you know, capture.
Bro, that's crazy!
She could be good at one moment, use something that she don't like, or is the app that she sees that says, oh, women do this.
It's like, you're fucked!
The problem you've got is that we all know relationships go through ups and downs.
It's great at the beginning.
The sex is great.
It's fucking awesome.
The honeymoon period is fucking brilliant.
Then it gets a little bit more day-to-day.
It gets a little bit more maybe boring.
Maybe the sex falls off a little bit.
She's sitting there.
You're going through that lull.
And then she's like, well, hang on a minute.
This dude on Instagram who's got the 12-pack abs and, you know, he's He's on a yacht.
He looks kind of cute and he's DM me.
That starts to become more attractive because we're not conditioned as a society to go through the hard yards anymore, are we?
We want instant gratification.
We want our dopamine hit.
Especially women because they're promised that they should be happy no matter what.
That's a big one.
So many girls, I'm not happy anymore.
They think they deserve happiness.
Literally, guys, I can't tell you how many times I deserve to be happy.
I don't hear men saying that dumb shit.
I only hear women say that.
Sorry, Troy, I didn't mean to cut you.
No, you're right.
And marriage is, you know, like, you've got to be realistic about life.
It's not going to be happy the whole time.
You're not going to be blissfully, like, you know, partying the whole time.
There's going to be times when it's fucking hard.
And that's what our parents and our grandparents did, right?
You know, you just, you went through it, you stuck it out.
But there's no incentive now to stick it out.
Actually, the incentive is the opposite.
The incentive is don't stick it out.
Cut, look, you saw that Emily Ratajkowski video.
You know, when she was saying basically, you know, it's good to be divorced.
She's invisible now.
It's good to be divorced.
The older model.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, that's her name.
She's saying, if you're divorced in your 20s, congratulations, it's good.
You know, you deserve to be happy, whatever.
And it's like, that's, Amir Khalifa did something similar as well recently.
And that's the culture that we're in now.
Yeah.
I think the best way to crystallize this, because this is a lot of information for a lot of people.
It's like drinking out of a fire hose, like I was joking with you guys earlier.
The Hayter Reaction Channel ain't going to give you all this kind of stuff.
No, they're definitely not going to do it.
But generally, when women are young and attractive, they tend to go after the men that they want.
When they start to lose their sexual market value, they go after the men they need.
The problem is...
Well, here's the thing.
The men that women want and need are no longer the same men.
It used to be the same man.
If you were a good Christian young man, you went to college, Bible college, whatever the case may be, got a job at this field.
You were a nice guy.
You had a good trade.
And you were rewarded with a woman who was worth that.
But women are not worth that anymore.
No problem.
Guys still think that women are worth this, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.
So just understand that in the West, women are looking for two men.
They're looking for two men, but they think they can find it in one.
They never can.
That's why they hop from guy to guy to guy, because they think the next one is going to be the best.
No.
That's the one you want, the one you want.
Oh, wait a minute.
I'm 32 and I've got two kids?
I need to find a guy I need.
And I'll take it a step further.
A lot of these trotcons will tell you, oh, no, man, like, you know, marry that woman, etc.
Bro, God, Jesus couldn't even, right?
You guys want to say Jesus or Allah, whoever.
They can't even save these hoes.
You think you're going to be able to fucking do it?
As Minister Japp says.
Like, bro, y'all are not going to be able to do it.
So it's like, bro, just identify the women that are worthy and identify the women that aren't worthy and don't give the women that aren't worthy a relationship.
But these tradicons will sit there and tell you like, oh, you can make, you know, she can be a good woman or get married or whatever.
Like, no, fuck that shit.
I want guys to be in a position of advantage where they pick the best girl based off of what they want to do and their experience.
Not being pigeon-toed to, I gotta go ahead and commit to this girl even though she's not the ideal candidate because of God.
No, fuck that shit.
Because she's not going to play by those rules if she chooses not to.
You go ahead and you're religious and you're devout.
And you're like, I'm doing this for God.
I'm doing this for religion.
Then you find out that she changes mind and says, no, you know what?
I'm going to go ahead and be atheist and I'm going to divorce.
Fuck this shit.
I know it's still death do us part.
But you know what?
I'm not happy anymore.
I'm going to leave.
Listen, I did it.
People can change.
However, they can change back.
Ultimately, you're going to be screwed no matter what you do.
Do you agree with, do you think that vetting is realistic?
Because my problem with the idea of vetting, I think you should do it.
I think there's some obvious red flags, you know, if she's like a junkie and she's got a billion tattoos or whatever the fuck, you know, there's some obvious things you could look out for.
However, I do think that you don't know, even if she's super sweet for six months, a year, two years, you don't know how she's going to react in the long term under pressure.
Well, this is why you have to vet her for long term.
So you have to vet her for long term.
So many guys are lazy.
This is the thing, guys.
What you guys have to understand is that hoes have more practice acting like a good girl than actual good girls.
Hoes know how to move in bed.
They do things with their vaginas.
They know that if they make you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich that...
That separates them from 95% of women.
No, guys.
What you have to understand is don't be lazy.
You should vet a woman for no less than one year.
No less than one year.
If it's less than a year, guys, you're doing yourself a disservice.
That's all there is to that.
I would add as well, just to vetting, on some level, you need more time, like Donovan said, but also as well, remember, if it doesn't work in your favor, you're not putting yourself first, it doesn't matter.
So, for example, let's see if I had a girl for like two, three, four years, right?
She can still change to somebody else on the sixth year.
However, if you put yourself first, okay, I'm not going to marry her by the state.
I'm married by the church.
I'm not going to give her access to all my life.
I'll give her some access.
There you go.
You're putting yourself first, putting that barrier there so she can't hurt you in the, I want to say, immediate long run.
I'll also say this.
What men need to...
And I know it's hard, guys.
When there's a girl you really like, you've been with her for four months, you guys have to understand...
Don't be in a rush.
Men have an hourglass and women have an hourglass.
The sand in hourglass moves a lot slower than women.
Women, they gotta get a move on because their shit goes very, very quickly.
A lot of guys say, well, I don't want to waste two years with the same girl.
You're talking like a woman.
And here's another thing, guys.
Here's another thing.
There's no such thing as good women or bad...
Now, are there good women in the world?
Of course.
Are there truly bad women in the world?
Absolutely.
But most women are either high-risk, low-risk, or somewhere in between.
Yeah.
If a girl has purple hair and a bunch of tattoos, okay, that doesn't necessarily mean she's a bad...
She might be a good person, maybe a bad girlfriend, right?
So the higher the risk she appears to have, the more you have to vet her and mitigate those risks.
But don't think of women as good or bad.
Look at a girl and say, okay, from what I see, is she high risk or is she lower risk?
The higher the risk, the more game you have to have.
The lower the risk, the more traditional you can be.
Well said.
I like it.
What else do we got here?
Oh, okay, nice with the Drape Smyron.
Shout out to the guests in the FNF crew.
Yeah, man, I appreciate it, man.
Yeah, there's sound currents, too, so it helps with the audio.
You guys should be getting some better audio.
I got panels all over this place.
So today's topic, before the girls come, we're going to cover MLB player, what happened to him in his debacle.
Donovan the sports pro?
Yes.
Let him lead it off.
Please tell us about...
Or do you want to play the video first?
Yeah, we can play the video and then I'll give it back.
We've got a five minute video here that summarizes everything in totality.
This is unbelievable, dude.
And an article as well.
Do we have it, Bills?
Okay.
There we go.
The past few years have certainly not been easy for former Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer.
He was released from the team after being suspended two seasons by Major League Baseball for what turns out to be an absolutely nothing burger.
This is someone who was falsely accused.
This is someone who was MeToo'd and you could see it from the beginning.
Trevor Bauer was accused to have done some things during a sexual interaction with a woman.
And of course, this woman certainly seemed like she was okay with it in the aftermath in the days after that, but all of a sudden decided she wanted to come after Trevor Bauer's money.
When the authorities got involved, they decided there wasn't enough information to press charges and they declined to do so.
Yet still, Trevor Bauer remains suspended.
And now finally, you have these headlines.
Trevor Bauer and Lindsay Hill agree to settle lawsuits against each other.
Same thing from ESPN. Trevor Bauer and woman settle dispute in sexual assault case.
One thing that is not in these headlines from some of the mainstream outlets is the truth.
And the truth is that Trevor Bauer used this opportunity to settle a lawsuit but be able to speak publicly about everything that had gone on.
And he's revealing the insidious details behind this Me Too scandal.
Not only did Lindsay Hill, the woman who accused him of these things, not only did she not actually have a problem with anything, she planned the entire thing in order to take his money and he's got the receipts to back it up.
Look at the headline from Outkick.
Exiled MLB pitcher Trevor Bauer settles with accuser Doesn't it sound familiar?
A woman met a rich man, planned from the very beginning to take his money, and when she wanted to get what she wanted, she said, grape.
Or said, trafficked.
Andrew Tate?
Anybody?
Yeah.
Andrew Tate, anybody?
Yeah.
This is why money isn't everything, guys.
There were text messages, too, between her and asking how much...
I think it shows...
It shows it in the middle.
Okay, let's keep going.
He makes...
Which is crazy, bro.
Yeah, this is crazy shit.
Shout out to Ryan, by the way.
See, TreadCons don't prepare you out for shit like this.
They don't.
They don't prepare you out for shit like this.
At all.
They tell you that every woman is good.
Sugar and spice, everything nice.
They don't tell you shit like this.
So, let's go ahead.
Fired a hole.
Texts showing woman planned for him to choke her in extortion plot.
And we're going to go down a little bit here.
He's got the text messages, by the way.
Need daddy to choke me out.
I want to go through the entire timeline of this.
Trevor Bauer responds to settlement news with new proof.
Bauer revealed in his video that the settlement provided him with communications made by Hill, including text messages exchanged with friends.
He included the video of Hill, shot on May 16th, the morning after she alleged this terrible encounter went down, when she's smiling in bed with Trevor Bauer.
There's a video, and I think this is the first one you had there, or second one, Bills, with her in the bed.
She is smiling.
After having sex with no physical marks, no abuse at all.
That's on that Trevor Bauer video where he addresses, hey, this is the truth that happened.
Trevor Bauer, in his own words with the video, shows her in bed.
Bills, play the video, please.
Yeah, if he plays the video with Trevor Bauer, it'll show it.
So imagine she's telling people she's been hurt, her head has been cracked or whatever.
Dude, Bills, the second video is the same one.
No, it's the same one.
It was on that same one, yeah.
Oh, there's another one?
Okay.
Separately.
It's like one minute.
Gotcha.
Here we go.
Oh, this is it, yeah.
Former Dodgers pitcher Trevor Bauer is speaking out after settling a lawsuit with a woman who accused him of sexual assault.
Bauer released this video today claiming that he has evidence his accuser set him up and was trying to take his money.
Next victim, star pitcher for the Dodgers.
A text Lindsay Hill sent to a friend before she ever even met me.
What should I steal?
She asked another, in reference to visiting my house for the first time.
The answer?
Take his money.
So how might that work?
I'm going to his house Wednesday, she said.
I already have my hooks in.
You know how I roll.
KTLA does not typically identify people involved in cases of sexual assault, but Bower's accuser, Lindsey Hill, has chosen to go public.
Bower says text messages and videos confirm Hill was attempting to extort money from him.
Bower also posted a selfie video that he says Hill took of the two of them in bed after the alleged assault and says Hill has none of the injuries he later claimed.
In the settlement, Bauer did not pay Hill any money.
Dorted Hill paid Bauer after he countersued her for defamation.
But Donovan, he's still out of the team.
He is out of baseball.
He last pitched in Japan last year.
This guy won the Cy Young Award in 2021.
And the most damning thing about this is that, once again, we've been having this problem in the NFL for years.
But as soon as all a woman has to do is make an accusation, Major League Baseball suspended him for two seasons.
Unpaid.
Unpaid leave for two seasons.
I think he lost like $36 million.
Damn.
Dude, he was the best pitcher, at least in the National League.
A lot of people thought it might have been Justin Verlander.
But the point is, is they suspended him without pay.
They put him on leave based on an accusation.
Do you think the Los Angeles Dodgers are going to give him his $36 million back?
No.
Is anything going to happen to Lindsay Hill now that we all know she's bullshitting?
No.
It is open season on professional athletes, guys.
Honestly, man, this is why you have to move differently.
When you're a professional athlete, when you're a man with clout, with status, you really have to move differently.
I think Trevor Bauer probably learned a very expensive lesson.
He needs to put cameras in his house.
He needs to make sure he has more receipts and text conversations.
This is why we tell you guys, put cameras in your house, recording devices, etc.
These kinds of things will save you a world of trouble, but I don't think it would have in this case.
Because my guess is that Trevor Bauer probably presented all of this to the prosecutors.
And by the way...
He was never prosecuted.
The only legal hearing that took place was found in Trevor Bauer's favor.
Every news outlet says Trevor Bauer and this girl settled out of court, but they're not saying Trevor Bauer exonerated.
No, he is still accused of sexual assault.
Well, we're going to see here how the media puts the narrative out there always against the guy in this scenario.
Actually, there's another article here.
I think it's the New York Post.
There's a writer called Molly Knight.
She's not really in this equation anymore, but she's the reason why this narrative was spent so much.
And actually speaking, she hit her Instagram, hit her Twitter, because she's trying to run away from the fact that she's going to put out there that he damaged her physically.
Wow, look at this.
So, um...
I'm going to read this.
Someone read this.
I'll read it.
I'll read it.
I can read it.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I got it.
You got it?
Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah.
It says, in February, the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office announced that it would not be pressing charges over sexual assault allegations that the former Cy Young winner faced last year.
Before that, a judge in California, California Superior Court, denied the accuser's request for a restraining order.
That's interesting.
Bauer was accused of punching and choking a woman unconscious during sex.
The pitcher admitted to having rough sex with the accuser, but said it was consensual.
During the case, Bauer's attorney claimed that the pitcher had text messages from the accuser, quote, involving requests to be choked out and slapped in the face.
And that the, quote, woman spent the night and left without incident, continuing to message Mr.
Bauer with friendly and flirtatious banter.
Yep.
quote, defamed Mr. Bauer by creating and spreading the false narrative that Mr. Bauer fractured the complainant's skull.
Bauer's attorney at Kinsweiler, Weitzman, whatever.
Yeah, whatever.
In the United States District Court, Central District of California Western Division.
Wow, unbelievable.
We'll finish this up here.
There was no basis for that assertion because the complainants own medical records.
I'm just going to skip to the last part.
Basically, they had all of the evidence they needed to exonerate him, but that was quote-unquote non-admissible, and they still didn't prosecute.
Why did they say it was non-admissible?
Because a lot of stuff is being made non-admissible now, isn't it?
Dude, that's the million-dollar question.
This lady took the woman's side.
We don't have any facts.
Unbelievable.
You want to know who else did this?
Who?
A woman who used to write for the Chapel Hill newspaper when the Duke Lacrosse Oh, there you go.
You guys got to check out.
It's called Fantastic Lies ESPN 30 for 30.
This woman, the day after this happened, you know who you are.
You guys were all there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then in the documentary, when they were all exonerated, well, I think I might have rushed.
You think?
Listen, man, this man's life has been, and he's lucky, he has actually quite a good attitude about this, but if I were him, I'm going scorched earth.
I'm getting everybody, because they cost this man almost $40 million.
But imagine a woman that wasn't even there, didn't even know what was going on, took her side, the girl's side, right?
Put a nerd out there for the whole world to see, and then is hiding because it's false.
There you go.
Where you at now?
Gone.
Unbelievable.
Radio silent.
Unbelievable.
That's crazy, bro.
And what's going to happen to Miss Hill?
Nothing.
Nothing's going to happen to her.
And just like women are incentivized to divorce their husbands, women are now incentivized to go after professional athletes and make these false accusations.
It's ridiculous.
So, Molly Knight and Miss Hill, nothing happened to them at all.
Nothing.
After all that bullshit.
And his career is finished.
Yeah.
He's only 32, and my guess is that another Major League team will give him a shot.
He's not getting those two years back, though.
He went and pitched in Nippon, Japan.
Listen, I'm sure that kept his arm warm, but that ain't like pitching in Major League Baseball.
36 million gone.
There needs to be legal penalties for people who make these false accusations.
There should be.
How many times do we see this?
Women that make these accusations should go to prison for the amount of time that the guy would have had to go for the accusation.
I like it.
And the emotional stress and everything that the dude goes through.
The financial opportunities.
Because the thing is that an allegation destroys you, even if it's found to not be true.
I remember when this story broke out before, it already ruined his image.
Because here's the thing.
When it first pops off, the amount of clout and attention it gets will never compare to when they're It never compares.
You look at Trevor Bower, you look at Russell Brand, you look at Andrew Tate, Trump, Kobe Bryant, Johnny Depp, like all these guys.
When it broke, it hurt them significantly.
But when the information comes out that they were lying or whatever, people don't know.
She made like a rap song about it.
Like, dude, these chicks are literally just chasing clown, making a bunch of money.
And the problem is this.
We reward women for making false accusations.
Amber Heard, I think, is getting another actress role.
When Johnny Depp got accused, the parents of the Caribbean got rid of him.
The only people that stuck with him was the clone.
Just out to your point as well, so this happens to a guy and let's say he gets vindicated and he's good to go.
No one does research to say if he was right or wrong.
Right.
And they had to say, oh, he's a great bitch.
Yes.
Automatically.
All of the headlines, Trevor Bauer and Trevor Bauer, and I've already forgotten the bitch's name, and this woman settled out of court as if they were damaged in some way.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Here's another telltale sign that a claim is bullshit.
When someone is accused of something, and the person that's accused countersues, you know that person is countersuing.
Always full of shit.
I'm suing her for defamation while I'm suing you for emotional distress.
You knew it was bullshit.
It was ridiculous.
Of course, Johnny Depp sued her.
Amber Heard countersued.
She lost.
That is the telltale sign that an allegation is bullshit.
When she gets sued, and then she decides to countersue.
And here's the thing, too, that I want to let people know.
These guys that I mentioned have the resources and money to fight this shit.
A regular guy doesn't.
Like Johnny Depp, when that stuff came out, everyone, like, literally, he was blacklisted in Hollywood.
Thankfully, he recorded those conversations with her, and he had that evidence, which, by the way, recording someone surreptitious without their knowledge is a crime in a lot of states when it's one party.
but if he had not had that they would have went ahead and said oh he's a great piss he did this blah blah but then we found out no Amber it's crazy she shit in the bed she hit him with a bottle she was actually the real abuser but we went ahead and court public appeal and we believed her thank god that trial was televised and everyone was able to see And I think that was really the first Big situation where people are like, okay, you know what?
Maybe women do lie.
You know what I mean?
And people are starting to be a little more skeptical of these women.
But bro, it took Johnny Depp breaking the law, committing a felony, right?
To protect himself.
Dude, you took the words right out of my mouth.
We live in a world where a man doing what's necessary to protect himself is a crime.
Wild.
It's insane.
It troubles me a bit about the inadmissible evidence, because I've heard that that is also the case in the UK. Like, certain things, which should be evidence, should be like, look at this, is seen as inadmissible.
Right.
Your Honor, I have video of me, you know, Doing things, and she looks like she's...
You don't see any resistance.
Well, sorry, Mr.
Sharp.
This is inadmissible because she didn't know she was being filmed.
Well, what happens if she decides to falsely accuse me of EPAR? Then what am I supposed to do?
There should at least...
Why is there never anonymity for the accused as well?
Why is that not a thing?
Is there anonymity?
No, is there not anonymity for the accused?
It's called the rape shield.
Oh, the accused?
The accused.
Because the accused is a man, Troy.
The accused is a man.
That's why.
They want to drag the man out there, guilty till proven innocent, while keeping her identity a secret.
And even when it's made public, just like you said, when the story breaks, it never has as much coverage.
I actually...
Luckily for him, she went public.
She did multiple interviews, actually, with people talking about the subject.
Oh, good!
So she's a stupid bitch!
I mean, you could look in the NBA, like Derrick Rose, same thing.
Oh, dude!
I wrote about that in Return of Kings!
Jonathan Cain from the...
I'm sorry, Jonathan Tapes from the Chicago Blackhawks, same thing.
He raped me.
Nope, mm-mm, he didn't.
She tried, and it's funny, because a lot of these women try to take him to civil court.
They never try to take him to criminal court.
Here's what they do.
No, of course not.
Right, because the standard of proof in a court of law, as you know, is guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.
However...
In civil court, where people are getting sued, the standard of proof is a preponderance of the evidence, which means, and I'm not a lawyer, which means that based on the evidence given, it is more likely than not that the accused is guilty.
51% versus 49%.
There you go!
This is why O.J. was not guilty in criminal court, but was held responsible in civil court.
Women know this.
They also know that the standard of proof is even lower in the court of public opinion, which then influences the court's opinion.
Dude, it's an economic thing, too.
The reason why men aren't protected is because it's not financially advantageous to the economy to protect men from women.
That's why.
I mean, and the court system runs off of, that's why family court is like, they're never going to change the law.
Oh, yo, we need to change the laws, blah, blah.
No, we don't.
Because when you're there, and shout out to Coach Greg Adams, he talked about this.
Dude.
When you're there in the family court, everyone is getting a dollar from you to some degree.
Real shit.
The judge?
Yep.
The lawyers?
The bailiffs?
The bailiffs?
Everyone is literally making money off of you being in that fucking family court because you're the one that's on the hook financially.
It's never the female.
It's almost always going to be the guy.
So it's like these systems run on predatory nature of taking money from you.
So they're not going to change the laws because there's an entire economy behind it.
So as far as these accusations or whatever, hey, it's more beneficial for them to believe the woman up front because they look at it like, okay, well, if she is, it's better.
For us to have a woman that's lying than a woman that's telling the truth that's actually being abusable.
But what they don't realize is it actually hurts the women that are really being abused because now they're not taking it seriously.
Because chicks like this want to cloud chase and make money, and the real victims are the ones that suffer.
Here's the thing.
No one here on this panel thinks that sexual assault or any of this stuff is good.
It's bad.
It's bad.
Yeah, it's terrible.
That commits these crimes heinous and they should be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law.
But I have an issue with females that go ahead and use the laws to their advantage to make a quick dollar and lie in the process and not be held accountable.
It's like, no, you need to go to prison for doing that shit because not only did you tie up legal resources, whether it's in a criminal court or the civil court, you went ahead and you lied.
You destroyed a man's character.
And the problem is this.
The fame, the level of fame never reaches the same level as the accusation.
Even if you're vindicated.
No one cares if you're vindicated.
They're always going to label you as a great pistol.
Every single time.
It doesn't matter.
Even Kobe Bryant.
To this day, people still run around and say, oh, he's a great person.
No, he's not!
But they still say that shit to this day.
Unbelievable.
Crazy.
Unbelievable, man.
I don't know, man.
But yeah, dude.
It's literally clown world out here.
Look, the deal is this.
I think the world needs to wrap its mind around the fact that there are many predatory men around the world, but there are predatory women as well.
Women are protected from predatory men as they should be, but men...
Who protects us from predatory women?
None.
Yeah, we're sitting right here.
You know what?
I have figured it out.
It's called my 95% off of my entire catalog.
Guys like us, man, we're really the only line of defense for y'all because the only thing we can do is arm you guys with the knowledge so that you're aware of what the fuck is going on so you can take preventative measures.
It's all different.
Man, y'all gotta be like Floyd Mayweather when it comes to the dating game nowadays.
Like, you just don't get hit, right?
You just become really good.
Fight on radar.
Yeah, you're literally just good at dodging hits and being able to evade it.
Here's another suggestion.
There's also another, just one thing, there's also another offense in the UK now that's the...
Wait, you guys are worse than us.
Yeah, we're worse.
So there's a thing called coercive control now, which is seen as being equivalent to physical abuse within a relationship.
But what does coercive control really mean?
Well, it means like...
He tried to look at my phone, he said I couldn't go, you know, he said he didn't like me going out to the club, you know, all this kind of stuff.
What could be seen is that that could then be filed as a charge of coercive control.
And as I say, that's now being taken as seriously as a physical violation.
Are you kidding?
They are starting to expand these nebulous definitions of non-violent crimes to be related and somehow to violent crimes.
It's a force of control.
It can also be kidnapping, and kidnapping could be trafficking.
It's starting to reach a level of ambiguity that even the courts have an issue with actually defining.
And the problem is that whenever you operate in gray like that, then now it gives them more leeway to make ridiculous or baseless accusations.
Like, I've heard women say emotional violence.
What?
Yeah, it's the same kind of thing as that.
And so basically the messages don't get married in the UK. Or verbal violence.
Like, what the fuck is that?
Call us not X-Men.
We're gonna hurt you.
We're not touching you.
Yeah, right.
I'm gonna hurt you.
Bitches think I'm Magneto out here.
Like, Professor X, like, ah!
Bitches call me Cyclops and shit.
I got two lies.
What the fuck's wrong with y'all?
Fucking clown world, man.
Yo.
Holy shit, man.
But yeah, guys, this is what you're up against.
And here's the thing.
Tradcons aren't telling y'all niggas about this shit.
No, they're not.
You know, and I'm not saying to bash these guys or whatever it may be, because I do agree with a lot of their points.
I love some of them.
Shout out to Stephen Crow, like I said before.
We get along with it.
This is one of our points that we disagree with.
But, you know, I'm talking more about the guys that criticize us, like these fucking losers like...
Officer Brandon Tatum, whatever the fuck.
Like, bro, they don't understand that they're not prepared to tell you guys about the new normal.
They give you cookie-cutter advice, or no, be sufferers, blah, blah, blah.
It doesn't fucking work in 2023, and worse yet, it doesn't work for attraction, it doesn't work for respect, and girls are literally designed nowadays to punish you for behaving that way.
I want to see these guys, just for like a week, take a break from your wife, and go out there in the dating marketplace, and see what you do.
Nigga!
Just one week!
Yeah.
One week!
Come to Miami!
Come to Miami and hit some bitches in the end.
And Troy just told y'all, it doesn't matter if you're in Miami, if you're in Columbia, if you're in Western Europe, etc.
Hypergamy is hypergamy.
Like I said before, the only difference is you might have a little bit more perceived status in another location, and you might be able to make more mistakes, but regardless, they're going to operate the way that they want to operate.
That's right.
The less masculine you are, the higher your risk, man.
Cool.
Any chats?
We're going 50 and up, I think, here to close this one out.
If you're doing 50 and up, no.
No?
50 and up!
Okay, uh...
Or did these come in before I made the call?
No, this...
Yeah, this came in before.
Okay, before...
All right, then.
Myron's inner thoughts goes, can someone please tell me why does Fresh look like Block Brain...
Black Brain?
From Pinky and the Brain?
Black Brain.
Jesus Christ.
Who's that?
Pinky and the Brain...
Oh, yeah.
I don't know who Black Brain is.
I guess you're Black Pinky?
Blinky?
I don't know.
And then Cade Cigi said, nice touch with the Draves Meyers.
Shout out to the guests on the...
Yeah, that's cool as shit, man.
Did I read that one before?
Yeah.
Meyers want to read that again.
Sorry.
I started to talk about toxic masculinity as a part of the rules and guidelines.
I was selling life insurance for a company called American Income, and every year you have to redo your workplace behavior training.
When that popped up, I couldn't believe I resigned shortly afterwards.
Yeah, bro.
It's becoming a clown world, man.
Toxic masculinity is one of the biggest societal lives that we ever had because I'll tell you this, man.
If someone's in a dire place where they need assistance, whether you're in a burning building or someone's breaking into your house, you don't want two fucking women showing up.
You want a dude with a beard, two of them that got tattoos and talk like this and blah, blah, blah.
You want those guys coming in to save you.
You don't want no fucking lesbians showing up.
You're going to be like, God damn, I'm going to die.
Toxic masculinity is a quote-unquote first world problem.
Toxic masculinity does not exist in second and third world countries.
I'm French.
I'm fucked.
I can be pissed off by a bum.
So it says, I can be pissed off by a bum, get lucky with a lot of money, but never with a man that worked for it.
If anything, I'm glad there's still some kind of meritocracy.
For those who do what it takes.
Let me comment on this.
He says, I can be pissed off by a bum getting lucky.
No.
There are no bums that get lucky and get...
Yeah, they don't get lucky with a lot of money unless they win the lottery.
But the bums they're talking about...
Nobody gets lucky on YouTube, guys.
Like, nobody gets lucky in content creation.
It is incredibly, incredibly difficult to come up with new and fresh and current educational and entertaining content all the time.
Nobody gets lucky in And gets a lot of money.
And if they do get lucky that the fame will be short-lived, then it'll be like a week or two.
And they have one viral video.
So time reveals all, man.
And then what's the last one here?
I think the last one.
Uh, okay.
These females are free.
I mean, they pull shit like this and then wonder why men don't believe the Me Too movement, ruin it for actual victims, and then get mad when you don't believe them.
Get the rocks.
Yeah, man, it's...
Honestly, what bothers me about this whole Me Too thing is it literally invalidates the real victims.
Because trust me, man, there are women out there that are experiencing these situations, and they don't have the ability and or maybe they're resolved to go to the police because they're like, damn, I don't want to be labeled as a liar.
I've had a daughter...
I want justice for her as well.
Whoever did that shit needs to go to jail.
Absolutely.
These predatory females that are doing this for clout and money, etc, man, they're fucking it up for everybody else, man.
So, anyway, guys.
Troy, where can they find y'all?
Yeah, thanks for having me on, guys.
It's been an awesome show.
Just follow me on YouTube at RealTroyFrancis, on Twitter or X at RealTroyFrancis, and on Instagram at RealTroyFrancis.
And we're running a boot camp next week in Bogota, Colombia, from the 19th to the 22nd with some of the most beautiful women in the world in Bogota, capital of Colombia.
So if you're up for that, drop me an email at Troy at RealTroyFrancis.com and we can discuss.
Colombia's beautiful, by the way.
It's awesome.
It's a fantastic place.
It's amazing.
Yeah, you guys can follow me on all social media.
Just look for Donovan Sharp.
My main website is TSRAcademy.com.
There, I'm doing my 95% off.
TSRAcademy.com, guys.
Yeah, TSRAcademy.com.
Guys, I've done 10 courses.
I've written like 15 books.
Audio courses, all of them right now, on sale, 95% off.
Follow me on Instagram, at DonovanSharpTSR, and give me a follow on TikTok, too, at DonovanSharpLive.
You're still on there?
Yeah, I still am.
The only reason why I'm still on TikTok is because I left it alone for a little while.
I pay a guy to do my shorts now, and he's like, dude, do you know you have a TikTok?
And I'm like...
Wait, what?
$5,000?
Alright, cool.
Let's build that up.
Well, it's probably going to get cancelled now that people know about it.
You're a blessed man.
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We got 3,000 plus y'all watched on YouTube.
Come on, guys.
Hold up a tab, man.
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This content might honestly save someone's life, man.
And YouTube is a discovery app.
Obviously, home base is Rumble, but we want to be able to go ahead and get discovered by other guys that might need this information.
So go ahead, open up that YouTube tab, click the like button, and then also comment below for the algo.
Just comment for the algo in the comments.
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Like the video.
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We're going to be back with some girls here in a little bit.
I don't know what time we're going to start.
Probably 10.
Probably between 9.30 to 10-ish, guys.
Yeah.
So, quick break.
We'll be back in a little, man.
Give you all a two-part and we'll have Troy and Donovan here for the after hours, man.
Let's do it.
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