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July 29, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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Lawyer Turned Ho Says PORN Is Ethical?! HEATED Debate!

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	All right, what's up, guys?
	Welcome to Fresh Air Podcast.
	After our edition, we're joining a bunch of loving ladies.
	Let's get into it.
	way let's go nobody cares bro
	Get out. Get out. Get out.
	You don't got to put them on in here.
	Hey, what's up guys? what's up guys?
	Welcome back to the Fresh Fit Podcast after our edition.
	Quick announcement before we get into the show.
	Number one guys, rumble.com slash freshfit.
	As you guys know, we make crazy content that might not be safe for YouTube.
	As a matter of fact, we're in YouTube jail right now.
	So we're back in about a week and a half?
	Yes.
	On YouTube, and we'll probably post a couple of these over on YouTube.
	Obviously edited because we've said a bunch of crazy shit.
	Moe's already on top of it.
	Well, yeah, you're gonna have to write that timestamp down.
	You're gonna have to edit that.
	But anyway...
	Yeah, guys, we'll be back on YouTube in about two weeks, or a week and a half in this case.
	But yeah, check us out on Rumble.
	In the meantime, we're going to have pretty much all the shows on there.
	We'll probably have a debate next week for you guys that you guys have been asking for.
	So stay tuned for next Friday.
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	Wait, canceled, right?
	Canceled.
	No, I'm just kidding.
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	When we come back...
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	We'll be back again in about a week and a half.
	For now.
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	Oh, the merch.
	Sorry.
	FreshFitStore.com, guys.
	Go get the merch over there.
	New designs coming very soon that we discussed on the last show if you missed it.
	And then also check us out on Spotify.
	Moe's uploading every single day on there.
	Whether it's video or audio versions of the pod, it's there.
	So check us out on Spotify as well.
	And guys, my vlog channel is also canceled for now, but I posted two vlogs earlier before the cancellation about Columbia.
	Pretty good trip.
	Us, Nico, Shooter, a bunch of people.
	It was a lot of fun.
	Go check it out.
	And as well, guys, the network.
	We had a fire call with Wes Watson yesterday.
	He killed it, bro.
	Spoke the truth, laid down the law.
	So type in the network, man.
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	Hop in there.
	And then check out my channel, guys, FedRax, as you guys know.
	But as you guys know, I break down criminal cases on there, so if you like true crime, go check it out.
	The last one I did was the YNW Melly case.
	As you guys know, he recently got a mistrial, and as I predicted, they're going to do another trial in about three months.
	So we'll see what happens, man.
	But he was able to kind of delay the prosecution for a bit, so we'll see what happens on this second go-around trial.
	But yeah, oh yeah, get my book, Why Women Deserve Less, in stores, right now, Amazon bestseller, hardcover, audible, pretty much in all different, in every single medium that you guys like to read books, go ahead and get it.
	Why Women Deserve Less, the book's only about 86 pages because, well, women deserve less.
	So anyway.
	Let's go ahead and have the ladies introduce themselves.
	And then Chris?
	Oh yeah, Chris.
	Send me a DM at Aaron C. Parkson on IG. Ladies, we don't send emails, so please don't fall for scams.
	Just IGs.
	And if you're not sure, just send me a DM at Aaron C. Parkson.
	I do check IGs, okay?
	So make sure that it happens.
	And shout out to the team in the back for sourcing and nice merch, Audrey.
	And shout out to the girls on the panel.
	I mean, who is email anyway nowadays?
	I don't know, man.
	Besides that, though, ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, your body count.
	And we're going to start right here.
	Welcome.
	Okay, hey, my name is Alexandra.
	I'm 27 years old, and I'm from Miami, and I'm a server, and I am taken.
	I'm in a relationship.
	By who?
	By my boyfriend.
	How long have you guys been together?
	For like 10 years.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah, I remember I told you last time.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I've broken up, but now I'm back together.
	What's your highest education level completed?
	Oh, I have an associate in psychology.
	Alright.
	Wait, you got by with him now?
	Yeah.
	What made you go back?
	Because there wasn't anything between us, remember?
	It was something with his parents.
	But everything turned out fine, you know?
	We worked it all out, so.
	Yeah, props to you then.
	Happy home.
	Welcome back.
	What about you?
	Hi, my name is Karen Estevez.
	I'm 18 years old.
	I am currently a full-time student, but on the side, I did dropshipping and I started getting into day trading as well.
	And I'm currently single and...
	Well, currently.
	And can I add that she has a Lambo as well?
	Oh, she does?
	That's pretty dope.
	Yeah, I've seen you at Supercar Saturday, by the way.
	Me?
	Oh, him?
	Okay, I was gonna say, that can't be me.
	I still got my 2002 Honda.
	I'm on the side, nigga.
	So wait, 18, you said you do, where are you originally from?
	Oh, well, my family's from Argentina, but I'm from Boca Raton.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, and you said you're a full-time student, you do day training and dropshipping, and then I'm assuming you're a full-time student in college.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What are you pursuing?
	Well, I want to be a dentist, so I'm doing a biology major.
	Okay.
	And body count?
	I don't mind answering it.
	I'm a virgin.
	Why he look concerned?
	TBD. Oh, okay.
	To be determined?
	Yes.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Hi, I'm Paola.
	I was born in Boston and I lived in Venezuela all my life.
	How old are you, Paola?
	I'm 30.
	Wait, 30?
	Yeah.
	And you said you were born in Venezuela, but you're from Boston?
	No, born in Boston, but I lived all my life in Venezuela.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	What part of Boston?
	Beth Israel Hospital.
	That's where I was born.
	That's the hospital.
	But I mean, like, what part of Boston are you from?
	My mom and dad were studying their master's and I moved to Venezuela when I was two years old.
	So I honestly have no clue.
	Did they go to school in Boston?
	Yeah.
	Where'd they go?
	My dad to BU and my dad to Northeastern.
	Oh, shit.
	Okay.
	I went to Northeastern, so that's where I graduated from.
	And then BU is right down the road, but BU sucks.
	So that's fine.
	And then what's your...
	You said you're from Venezuela slash Boston.
	What do you do for work?
	I'm an engineer in a medical device company.
	Okay.
	And then what's your highest education level completed?
	A bachelor's of science, industrial engineering.
	Okay.
	And then what is your relationship status?
	Single.
	Okay.
	You look familiar, by the way.
	I know you.
	Oh, shit.
	That's funny.
	What?
	Don't ask Al.
	Because I forgot.
	We have a friend in common.
	Wait, girl or guy?
	Yeah.
	Did he fuck her?
	What the?
	I don't know.
	I mean, Chris, I'm asking you, bro.
	I'm asking, bro.
	Come on, man.
	It was a friend in church because Fresh is a man of God.
	Thank you!
	I'm a virgin, too, like her.
	TPD. Okay, what about you?
	My name is Jasmine Jafar.
	I'm 28.
	I'm originally from Oregon, and I am an OnlyFans creator as well as a licensed attorney.
	She belongs to the streets!
	Yep, both.
	They're not mutually exclusive.
	So highest education level.
	Attorney and then video vixen.
	Wow.
	What kind of license?
	Estate planning.
	Estate planning?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So people die, I guess, assuming you're going to help divvy the assets up.
	That's part of it, yeah.
	Okay.
	Cool.
	And then you said you do OF as well.
	Yep.
	Does your firm have an issue with that or do you like private practice?
	So I quit my job at my firm about a year ago.
	And so I actually don't in my day-to-day because I don't need it to make a living anymore.
	So I do a lot of pro bono work, do what I need to do to keep my license active.
	But...
	I'm not doing it.
	Okay, that makes sense.
	Okay, so you no longer work under a firm, but to keep your license...
	Do you have to do pro bono work to keep it active?
	I don't want to say what state I'm licensed in, so that depends on the state.
	Okay.
	What they require.
	Okay, but to keep...
	I guess, generally speaking, you need to do some type of...
	Taking out clients or do some type of litigation to stay active?
	Is that how it goes?
	You need, like, CLE sometimes, which is, like, continued legal education.
	Okay.
	So, yeah.
	Okay.
	And some states require pro bono.
	Okay, to keep it active?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And for the audiences, it means basically free representation.
	So, what Chris?
	No, I'll say, question.
	Did you do content in, like, your, the courtroom?
	So, no.
	You know, help you out with that.
	So I started my OnlyFans when I was studying for the bar because I was bored.
	I'm good at standardized tests, so I didn't need that long to study.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Once you're happy.
	Okay.
	And then your highest education level, obviously, you went to law school, right?
	Yeah.
	Juris doctor.
	Okay.
	Do you want to drop where you went to law school?
	No.
	Okay.
	Where'd you get your bachelor's from then?
	Or your undergrad?
	Sorry.
	I also don't want to drop that.
	Oh, damn.
	They're going to be able to figure out who you are, huh?
	Yeah, and your audience in particular might have a unique propensity towards psychopathy.
	They're going to find out anyway.
	By the end of the show, they're going to find out what state that you have your license in, I guarantee you.
	And then dating status?
	Single.
	Cool.
	We'll find out within an hour.
	Yeah, within an hour, they'll don't have it, but it's fine.
	Okay, what about you?
	My name is Josie.
	Josie, you said?
	Yeah, perfect.
	Josie, yeah.
	I'm 21 years old.
	I'm from Sweden, but I've lived here in Miami for a year.
	Okay.
	What do you do for it?
	I'm a nanny, so I'm living a nanny.
	Easiest way, with visas and everything.
	All pair?
	Yeah, exactly, yeah.
	But I'm also doing some school on the side, online school back home from Sweden, yeah.
	Good, okay.
	So you're pursuing a college degree right now?
	Yeah, so I've, I kind of, it's a little bit different in Sweden, but it's like kind of a college degree in nature.
	So like biology, chemistry, math.
	Okay.
	For dental school too, like the same as Karen.
	Okay, so your online school is actually based in Sweden, not here.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So like in Sweden, you get paid to go to college and university.
	No, that's an L. Socialist country.
	No, but she's here.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But back there.
	Yeah, Sweden L. So yeah, so it's like, it's nice.
	Okay.
	All right.
	So, okay.
	And then your highest education level completed, though, is high school, but you're in college.
	No, no.
	So like, it's like college.
	Oh, you have a four-year degree?
	Three-year, yeah.
	Okay, is it three years to get your bachelor's degree in Sweden?
	Yeah, for like nature.
	So it's like, I haven't done university for dentist school yet, but for the nature, like the basic to get into.
	It's like so hard to explain, but yeah.
	I think I kind of understand.
	You basically have the functional equivalent of a bachelor's degree in Sweden.
	Yeah.
	But it's three years in Sweden versus in America is four years.
	Yeah, so it's like math, biology, everything to become a dentist.
	So you're in advanced schooling now to become a dentist.
	Yeah, basically university.
	To be a dentist.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right, so I'll put BA here.
	Okay, and then what's your relationship status?
	I'm in a relationship.
	Okay, a lot of you have been together?
	Like five months, so it's kind of early.
	Okay.
	Is he from here in Miami or is he from Sweden?
	Yeah, I'm born and raised.
	Okay, cool.
	You should try and get that green card.
	Last question.
	Do you sing?
	I don't.
	Definitely not.
	Because you know what I thought?
	What?
	Josie and the Pussycats.
	What you know about that?
	My name is Jasmine.
	I'm from Miami.
	My parents are Jamaican and Italian.
	Hey y'all!
	I'm 22 years old.
	I do real estate and I also do lashes and rental cars.
	So I'm from Miami real estate.
	So if you guys ever need a real estate, come to me.
	Where are you originally from?
	I'm from Miami.
	Okay.
	So you said, wait, realtor, lashes, and what was the third thing?
	I do rental cars on Turo.
	Rental cars on Turo, okay.
	So if you guys ever need a car, exquisite exotics in most states.
	Oh, okay.
	You have cars in different states?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And then what's your highest education level completed?
	I dropped out of Harvard.
	Harvard?
	No way.
	Joking.
	I just graduated high school.
	That's it.
	Okay.
	Oh, it's a joke.
	I said earlier on the last show.
	I was going to say, like, you know, like, get to the group.
	Because a lot of times, most kids go to Harvard for little to no money.
	Girls will be like, yeah, I went to Yale.
	Yeah.
	And then never finish.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	High school.
	And then what's your relationship status?
	Some days I'm single, some days I'm taken, depending on what mood I'm in.
	She belongs to the street.
	Yeah, she's single.
	All right, fantastic.
	Hold on, before we even move forward.
	Question for you.
	What's the question?
	Who bought you that necklace?
	This?
	Yeah.
	Don't count.
	How much it costs?
	You know how much it costs.
	I know it's expensive.
	Come close.
	You got to talk to the mic.
	How much it costs?
	Oh, sorry.
	How much it costs?
	You know, you should know.
	No, but if you bought it, you should know too.
	I know too.
	How much that watch costs?
	You should know that too.
	Who bought it for you?
	Myself.
	No, this was a gift.
	The watch was a gift.
	What about your watch?
	Who got it for you?
	Myself.
	You did?
	How much was it?
	You don't want to know.
	I know already.
	How much is it got?
	Is that a skeleton or no?
	He has a skeleton, yeah.
	A skeleton?
	Okay.
	What the?
	It's silver, so it's a little cheaper than rose gold.
	It's not silver, but okay.
	White gold.
	Yeah.
	But this is scary.
	Wait, how much is it?
	Well, the one that I know of that I also have is $250,000.
	Well, that's the rose gold.
	The white gold, I'm not really sure of.
	That is actually pretty accurate.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	See, this is not good, though, that she knows all these things.
	She's been outside.
	That's what I mean.
	Okay.
	Welcome.
	What about you?
	Chad's saying sugar baby.
	Are they right?
	No.
	No?
	I don't have a sugar daddy.
	Not the cow.
	Have you ever had a sugar daddy?
	No.
	Not the cow.
	She has friends with money.
	Oh.
	No.
	Okay.
	First knows some shit.
	Listen, I'll tell you, chicks that wear this type of stuff, bruv, you didn't bother yourself.
	How old are you?
	30.
	30?
	Okay.
	How old are you?
	22.
	I just told you that.
	I was not listening.
	So my name is Natalia.
	I'm from Serbia.
	I'm a full-time student.
	How old are you?
	21.
	And you said it's Natalia?
	Natalia.
	Okay.
	And then you said you're from Serbia?
	Correct.
	Okay.
	Were you born in Serbia?
	Born and raised.
	Born and raised.
	When did you come over?
	For college.
	Okay, so you're a student now, full-time student?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What are you studying?
	Political science and international relations.
	Oh, God.
	Alright, so you're here on an F1 visa probably?
	Correct.
	You're pursuing your bachelor's degree?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	And you said political science, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And then what's your relationship status?
	I am in a relationship.
	Okay.
	How long have I been together?
	For almost two years.
	Cool.
	Is he in Serbia or here?
	Here.
	He's an American.
	I also do OnlyFans.
	Okay.
	With him or?
	No.
	With girls?
	And guys?
	No.
	Okay.
	Who do you do it with that?
	By myself.
	By myself?
	Oh, by yourself.
	Okay.
	All right.
	What are you doing there?
	Now, OnlyFans.
	Well, surprise.
	Hey, guys.
	I am so lonely.
	I'm struggling.
	So what are you doing there?
	What are you doing there?
	Well, just stuff.
	Usual stuff for OnlyFans.
	I don't know what that means, but okay.
	Well, subscribe.
	There we go.
	I need the real thing.
	What about you?
	Hi, guys.
	My name is Shay.
	I'm from Atlanta.
	ACO. How old are you?
	I'm 38.
	So I'm getting grown.
	Okay.
	So you're from Atlanta.
	What are you doing for it?
	Black loan crack.
	Don't say that.
	So I'm an entrepreneur.
	So I have a lash line as well.
	But I'm dabbled into real estate also with Mac Miami Real Estate.
	When you say you dabble in real estate, are you a realtor?
	No, so I'm getting into short-term rentals like Airbnb, stuff like that.
	Do you own the property or are you going to work on behalf of a landlord and get lease on their behalf?
	So currently I lease, but I'm in the process of finding a home to make it mine because there's so many rules.
	Okay, so you're going to buy a house and put it on Airbnb yourself?
	Yes, but I have Airbnb under lease.
	Gotcha.
	Okay, so you work on someone else's behalf, but you are going to transition and do it yourself?
	Yes.
	All right, and then what's your highest education level completed?
	I have a BA in psychology.
	Cool.
	Where'd you get it from?
	Georgia State University.
	Okay.
	Bulldogs?
	No, Panthers.
	Okay.
	What's the school in Georgia?
	I have no idea.
	University of Georgia.
	The second biggest, but we're downtown Atlanta versus UGA is like in the cut.
	Ah, okay.
	And then what's your relationship status?
	I'm in a situationship.
	Wow.
	How's that going for you?
	It's like really a partnership.
	So he thinks he's in a relationship with me, but I'm single.
	Wait, does he know this?
	Sounds a little like me.
	Let me get this straight.
	So he wants you, but you don't want him?
	Yeah.
	So why do you string him along?
	Because he finances my lifestyle.
	Understood.
	So there's a reason behind the madness.
	Makes sense.
	Okay.
	Lovely.
	But why though?
	L. Chris, would you say Chris?
	No, but why though?
	Like, why does he pay for your shit?
	Honestly, he's just a giver.
	He's just friendly.
	I think he helps.
	I mean, he just gives it away.
	Hold on!
	Does he get smashed?
	Okay, that's a story.
	I don't want to go into it.
	Yes or no?
	Yes or no?
	As of recently, yes.
	But for eight months, no.
	Okay, so it took him eight months to smash.
	Goddamn.
	Eight months?
	What the fuck?
	Goddamn.
	Yo, that's an L, my boy.
	She's 38, bro.
	She's almost...
	She's a granny, man.
	You get more when you hold out, ladies.
	You do.
	You actually hold out.
	No, you know what happens when you hold out?
	Well, if you're...
	Sorry, go ahead, Chris.
	Sorry, it's too early, fresh.
	Mo, what'd you say?
	You made a good point.
	Go ahead.
	He's probably about to cut her off.
	After eight months?
	Yeah.
	Is that what it was?
	Yeah.
	No.
	Yeah.
	Only the strong survive.
	No.
	Eight months?
	And you think you would've been able to keep struggling along for another...
	I could've...
	I just ran out of things to like...
	Dicks?
	No.
	Translation, you would've cut your off.
	I mean, you could only ban your period so many times.
	Wow!
	Nigga said, if I don't smash, you'll be on, bro.
	And also, you said the strong survive?
	No, the weak stay on that level.
	No.
	Only the strong survive.
	It's very strong to survive for eight months.
	No, no, no.
	The weak stay for a chance.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So, she's been celibate for eight months?
	No, no.
	She's talking like someone celibate.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, you see?
	You see?
	She ain't strong.
	Come on.
	So, the nigga that's paying her lifestyle gotta wait.
	But niggas that ain't paying shit, no gotta wait.
	Isn't that crazy?
	You see how they're attacking me?
	I'm just saying!
	Niggas, don't do shit, nigga.
	Don't do shit.
	He's not necessarily attacking you.
	I think he's just asking some thought-provoking questions.
	I can respect the hustle.
	I actually like it.
	You like that?
	But not for the guy, though.
	What if the roles were reversed a bit?
	Let's say he was only having sex with you, but he never took you out on dates for eight months.
	How would that make you feel?
	Well, I wouldn't do that.
	Only the strong survive, though.
	Only the strong survive.
	He wants me.
	I don't want him.
	So, he gotta put on the work.
	That's why.
	So, boom.
	Guys, this is why you gotta get your shit together, man.
	Be in the gym.
	Be an attractive guy.
	So, girls actually genuinely want you.
	And she has to want you more than you want her.
	Facts.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh my God, what if he sees this?
	Do you think? - I don't know. - I don't know. - I don't want 100, like.
	- He ain't going nowhere. - He ain't going nowhere.
	- He'll see this. - He'll see this. - That nigga's too busy simping. - All right.
	What about you?
	I'm from Miami.
	Welcome back.
	She belongs to the streets.
	I haven't even said anything.
	You're OnlyFans, we know.
	Do you want to talk for me?
	Kristen.
	Relationship status is complicated.
	27.
	Okay, where are you from?
	Miami.
	Okay.
	What do you do for work?
	Hostess.
	Chris, you said OF? Do you?
	No, hold on.
	If I remember correctly, you said you used to.
	Yeah.
	With your man, right?
	No, I never posted my man on OF. No, well, when you had a man.
	Yeah, I still have a man.
	Because you want to get back at him, and then he left you.
	Oh my god, I hate you guys.
	That's her!
	Okay, alright, okay.
	I was like, wait, how do y'all, okay.
	Oh shit, okay.
	Now I'm like remembering, okay.
	That was like two shows ago.
	That was a while ago.
	Yeah, months ago.
	So you transformed into a hostess now?
	I like it.
	So you gave up the OF and you do hostessing now?
	Correct.
	Okay, I remember once you mentioned the boyfriend thing.
	Alright, alright, alright.
	How is education level completed?
	High school.
	Alright, and then you said relationship status single?
	No, I said it's complicated.
	Is it somebody new?
	No.
	Same guy?
	Yeah.
	Oh, God!
	You went back!
	So who doesn't want to commit to who?
	Because if it's complicated, typically one party doesn't want to commit to the other.
	Or one party likes the other more than the other likes them back.
	Uh-oh.
	Like, okay, he just does things and then I just want to get back at him, but I'm pussy.
	Like that.
	She likes him more than he likes her.
	He loves me.
	You guys are true.
	You are a living novella.
	And your OF link is still on the bio, so on IG. Yeah, but I have nothing.
	Go subscribe.
	There's nothing on my OF. So now I keep it there.
	Subscribe?
	No, I don't want to subscribe.
	I want to die.
	I have like no news, no nothing on my web.
	Alright, cool.
	So then just take it out.
	Why?
	Let them subscribe.
	Because nothing's there.
	They don't know that.
	What do they do now?
	No, you wouldn't be surprised.
	If I'm a SIP customer, I go to your page, sub to your OnlyFans, I see nothing.
	I want my money back.
	No, it's like sexy pictures, but not nudity.
	It's nothing like before.
	It's nothing like before.
	He said nothing is there.
	But something is there.
	I would post that on my fucking story.
	I don't care.
	Alright, okay.
	I'm done.
	Not yet, Chris.
	Hold on.
	Let me just make sure I get through all the stuff.
	Okay.
	And then what about you?
	My name's Kayla, aka Enola Blaze.
	I am 25 years old.
	I have an OnlyFans and I also make homemade organic baked goods.
	Where are you originally from?
	Michigan.
	What part?
	The country.
	What's your highest education level completed?
	High school.
	And then, what's your relationship status?
	Single.
	Are you guys friends?
	No.
	Attorney?
	Are you guys friends?
	No.
	You should do a collab.
	No, it's okay.
	No, it's okay.
	This is fantastic.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Yo, Chris, I sent you a video in the chat, by the way.
	Fresh, did you have a question or do you want to hit the rants first?
	Rants first.
	Rants first?
	Alright.
	So, guys, we'll hit the Rumble rants and then we already got 14 or 15k you guys in here, so I will read the rants that came up before, but from this point forward, we'll probably go 20 and up.
	And it's Friday.
	I have a video, actually.
	That was kind of telling.
	We can do it later on, though.
	You saw the one on the plane?
	With the Ghana girl?
	No, I didn't see that one.
	I got a good one, though.
	I just put one in the Miami takeover.
	Alright, let's do my after.
	Do we got the ranch ready, Chris, or do I go into the first question?
	Question first.
	I think Chris was too busy in the back fucking trying to come up with a joke for the girls instead of screenshotting.
	God damn it.
	Look, here it is.
	Alright.
	I have more coming in.
	Oh, you got it ready, man.
	What do you...
	Yeah, but there's more coming in.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Okay.
	Well, I'll read these.
	And guys, from this point forward, we're going to go 20 and up.
	Alright.
	Alright, Fresh, you got this because this is, you know, Bible stuff.
	Pastor Walter Weeks, 1 Timothy 2, 12 says, but I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.
	Okay?
	And then part two says, Exodus 22, 16 says, if a man seduces a virgin who is not engaged and lies with her, he must pay a dowry for her to be his wife.
	This is the Old Testament, by the way.
	Blackest Panther.
	Ladies, if a woman demands that you can only smash her, she should be ready to give it up at all times, even if she doesn't feel like it.
	If she refuses to, you are in the right to step out.
	Agree?
	This could be a simple one, yes or no.
	So basically, if you don't want to give your guy sex, he should be able to step out.
	Thoughts?
	Agree or disagree?
	What do you think?
	No.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because if I don't feel like having sex, I shouldn't be forced to have sex.
	He's not forcing you.
	He's going to go get another girl.
	Yeah, he could step out.
	For my dude, I'd tell him, like, please get someone else to do it.
	So make this simple.
	Raise of hands.
	Is it okay for him to step out?
	Again, here's a scenario.
	Scenario is, he wants sex.
	You don't want to give it.
	Maybe you're tired.
	Maybe you're not feeling it.
	Whatever.
	He wants to go and get out for another girl.
	Agree or disagree that he should be able to do so.
	Agree?
	Raise of hands.
	How many of you agree?
	I mean, I agree you can step out, but...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I just want to get a picture.
	Only three of you agree.
	I need context.
	Right.
	Are they still going to be together?
	Like, he's allowed to step out, but they're coming.
	Like a hall pass?
	Yeah, he's going to come back to her.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	He's going to go fuck another girl, but come back to her.
	He can go, but then don't come back.
	Bye.
	Okay, so for...
	Okay, again, raise your hands, ladies.
	How many do you think it's okay?
	Raise your hands if you think it's okay.
	I don't know the relationship.
	He can go, but don't...
	Okay, so that's a no, then.
	You disagree.
	Who else?
	So only one person says agree.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	I don't agree or disagree, though.
	Yeah.
	We don't know their relationship.
	We don't know the boundaries of their relationship.
	Generally speaking, is he going to leave me?
	No, no.
	He's going to go bust a nut.
	Come right back to you.
	Cool.
	So two.
	So two girls think it's okay.
	All right.
	Why do you think it's not okay?
	We can start here.
	Uh-oh.
	I mean, he's like, the way that it's written, it's like, oh, you're forced to have sex.
	If I'm not, I'm going to go and have sex with another woman.
	It's like, okay, you can just leave then.
	Like, why would I want a man like that?
	No, he's not forcing you.
	He's saying, if that's the opposite.
	But there's kind of like, I'm going to go have sex with another woman on the line if you don't have sex with me right now.
	That's what he's kind of saying.
	So he's supposed to sit there and just, like, play with himself?
	How long...
	I mean, like, you don't, like, just leave.
	Like, he doesn't have to come back.
	That's my thing.
	Like, if you want to do that, you can just go, but, like, don't come back.
	What about you?
	Why not?
	Well, I'm very big on loyalty, so, I mean, like, it's kind of hard because, like, at some point, I do agree on their perspective because it's like, okay, like, obviously you're not giving what he wants, so it's kind of like, okay, but at the same time, it's like, It depends on how long the relationship is.
	Okay, you definitely are a virgin.
	What about you?
	Me, he can do whatever he wants and yeah, bye.
	That's not the type of relationship I'm looking for right now.
	He can do whatever he wants and I decide what to do with what I feel about that.
	So you won't take it?
	No.
	What if you really love him?
	That's not love for me, and everybody has their own concept of love.
	And same as I respect whatever he does, he has to respect whatever my reaction to that is.
	No?
	Okay.
	Alright.
	What about you?
	So is the question what we would do or for this random couple that we don't know?
	Yeah, it's a random scenario.
	Okay, so if it was me, absolutely the fuck not.
	But I don't know.
	This girl might be fine with it.
	It's up to them.
	The boundaries of a relationship depend on the people in the relationship.
	So I don't know what we're doing.
	So if you can't satisfy your man, he wants to just go and come back.
	Is that so bad though?
	For me, yeah.
	Why?
	Because I don't even want him.
	He can go, actually.
	I don't want him to come back.
	He's like, damn.
	But can't he make the argument that you're on OnlyFans?
	What does that have to do with this?
	It's a non sequitur.
	Well, here's the thing.
	You're demanding him to be monogamous to you, right?
	I didn't even say I demanded that, but if I don't want to have sex with him and he's like, what is he?
	I know we're all technically animals, but that's just a little...
	I like a more evolved man than that.
	Evolved line.
	Very interesting.
	So you want him to be faithful to you?
	Depends.
	I mean, so far in my relationships, we've had monogamous relationships, but I'm not against.
	I'm not diametrically opposed to open relationships either.
	It depends.
	I just we have to have communication, honesty, integrity.
	So they got to tell you up front is what it is.
	I wouldn't tolerate it.
	Like if it's one sided the way you guys like things.
	But that's me.
	Oh, we're all different.
	We're all different.
	We have different values.
	You want us to be open on both ends.
	If it was open, it would have to be open on both ends.
	If it was open.
	But if you're with a man that you actually liked, would you actually want to have sex with other dudes, though?
	Specifically, being honest here?
	Me, no, but I would want to hang out with other dudes.
	I mean, I make sex tapes on OnlyFans, so I have to continue to do that in this point.
	So, yeah.
	It can't be one-sided in that one.
	Hold on.
	You guys should subscribe.
	Technically speaking, not...
	Want to do it, but if you did it, you would go other guys and...
	I'm just saying the rules have to be fair.
	So, in law, it has to be a facially neutral law.
	Facially?
	Yeah, so it would have to be...
	On its surface, it would have to be fair.
	Life is in fair law.
	Thank you.
	Is life fair?
	What does it have to do with anything?
	We're just saying, look, you don't want to do it.
	Hold on, you said yourself, you don't want to do it, right?
	Yes, but I could.
	And if I want to go on a date with a guy tonight, I should be able to.
	But why force it if you don't want to do it?
	I'm not going to force it, but if I want to, it can't be.
	The rules can't be, I can, you can't.
	Now, if it's not neutral in its application, like if he wants to do it and I don't feel like doing it, that's different.
	But if I want to, I can.
	That's the point.
	She wants to be able to reserve the right to go out and step out of the relationship.
	But I'm pretty sure if that happened to you, you wouldn't do it.
	But on what basis are you...
	You're saying it's because it's equal partnership?
	Yeah.
	But do you think men and women actually are equal, though?
	Yes, I do.
	Really?
	Okay, that's where that comes from.
	That's the premise.
	Yeah, so she thinks men and women are equal, which is why she...
	So why aren't they equal?
	We were born differently.
	We're absolutely different from a biological sense.
	Different doesn't mean unequal.
	Black and white people are different, but they're still equal.
	No, I understand that.
	Within the confinements of human rights and everything else like that, but within the confinements of a relationship, men and women are not the same at all.
	Different doesn't mean unequal, though.
	Apples and oranges are different, but they're both fruit.
	It's just stupid.
	When it comes to dating men and women, do we bring the same thing to the table?
	Sometimes, yeah.
	How?
	How not?
	Why not?
	You're the one making the claim, so you have to defend the claim.
	Okay, no.
	Once again, I'm asking you, what do we bring that's different?
	I don't bring it.
	I mean, we're different genders, but for instance, I don't like the traditional you pay my bills and I give you sex.
	Like, that's not for me.
	From a biology standpoint, we have different parts, right?
	What do you mean if we have different parts?
	Yes.
	So are we the same?
	I didn't say we were the same.
	I said we're equal.
	You guys, this is very simple.
	Equal doesn't mean the same.
	I have a point, though.
	Wait.
	Sorry, you had something?
	Yeah, well, personally, I'm not trying to offend you, but I don't think that we are equal for the fact that...
	Women were born with value and men weren't.
	And I have a brother too, so I can back it up that it's harder for men because they have to struggle a lot.
	They have to put more effort.
	They have to make sure that they look good and everything.
	And not saying that we don't want to look good either, but we're already born with a high value.
	So only that way that we can downgrade is honestly if we...
	Sorry, not trying to be disrespectful, but if you show yourself in an incorrect way or you make yourself look like a hoe.
	Okay, so you've been watching some of their episodes, I can see.
	I don't see any problem anyway.
	But I mean, I think we're all born with value.
	We're not like fucking Hitler.
	Everyone's born with value.
	If you're saying that men have to work for their value, I don't know what that means.
	Like, they have to work to be attractive.
	You're a woman, so it's hard to...
	So because I don't have to work to be attractive, and they have to work to be attractive, now everything's unequal, and they can...
	I just don't subscribe to that.
	I mean, it's the reality that for a man to mate, he has to bring significantly more accomplishments to the table to have the same options and the ability to get with the opposite gender that a woman has.
	By the time a woman's 18 years old, she's able to...
	If she's attractive enough, she can align herself with some of the top-tier men.
	A man has to become top-tier to even be able to get the chance a lot of the time to...
	So why does that mean, though, that you should be able to act on that?
	I know you make the argument that it's easier for women, but if something's wrong, it's wrong.
	It's easier for you to kill me than it is for me to kill you, but murder is so wrong.
	Let me ask you something.
	You come from the legal world.
	Are you and a paralegal the same?
	No.
	Oh, and I love how you didn't like, how you had disdain for when I brought that up.
	I didn't have disdain.
	I just had disdain because it's a non sequitur.
	No, no, no.
	I'm going to explain the analogy here.
	The reason why is because you had to go through a lot more trials and tribulations to earn your title versus the paralegal went through a fraction of the schooling that you did.
	So you guys are not the same.
	So therefore, they don't have the same authority that you do as a lawyer because you busted your ass to become one.
	A paralegal is out there helping you with what you're doing, but you're the leader because you earned that right.
	But relationships aren't like, I earned the authority.
	Let me tell you why.
	Because men are expected to protect and provide for women in general in a traditional relationship.
	So if I'm expected to protect and provide for you, I have some authority.
	I need to have some authority over you because I'm responsible for you.
	First of all, not all relationships have this traditional.
	I understand your perspective.
	I get that.
	Not every single relationship is traditional.
	However, a majority of women, you might not be it, but I'm just making an argument for the majority.
	A majority of women prefer and would enjoy a traditional relationship where the man is the breadwinner, the protector, and the provider.
	Women typically, when they work, don't want to pay the majority of the bills.
	Most of them want to work, what I say, electively versus the man must work from a mandatory standpoint.
	I think if I land up 100 women, they'll prefer the guy to be the breadwinner and she could work on her own terms.
	So you think being the breadwinner automatically gives you that authority because you're earning the money and whatever she's providing to the relationship is not as valuable in a traditional way.
	No, I'm not saying that.
	I'm saying that as the breadwinner, that is just one of many components that puts the individual in the authority position, which I would argue the man needs to be in that position for attraction to be maintained.
	But you're assuming that the breadwinner role gives somebody that authority.
	It's just one component of it.
	What's the other component?
	The protector and the provider and the leader.
	Okay, and she's providing, I'm saying, in a traditional relationship, the home and the kids.
	That's not equal?
	I never said that's not important.
	But is that equal?
	No?
	It's not equal within the confinements of a relationship because the man needs to be a leader.
	So that's not as important.
	Raising your children isn't as important.
	No, it's extremely important.
	But is it as important?
	But it's different.
	Okay, different, yeah, but is it unequal?
	Because you're arguing it's unequal.
	So if you're saying unequal, that means one role is more important than the other and that's what gives you the authority.
	Well, the thing is, is that the roles that I have are very important to the survival of the family from a holistic standpoint.
	And raising the next generation isn't important?
	I'm not saying that.
	What I am saying, though, is that for us to even be able to have the child in a safe space, as in a family, I need to make sure that I'm on point for us to be able to have that child to thrive.
	I mean, we forget about all this because we're in a modern day society with, you know, technology and all these modern conveniences.
	But, you know, you got to remember that human beings are, you know, a progression of A bunch of different, a bunch of conditioning.
	So before, we didn't have all the modern conveniences we did now.
	So the man had to be the leader and the protector and the provider to ensure that his wife was safe and the children were safe.
	So he was the head of the household for that purpose.
	But we're not in hunter-gatherer times anymore.
	We've evolved for millions of years.
	And I don't think we just malfunctioned in 2023 by having less stringent gender roles.
	We're evolving to our times and our circumstances.
	So to constantly be like, well, in hunter-gatherer times millions of years ago or whatever many years ago, this was the way.
	If that doesn't apply to now.
	You need to withstand rational inquiry.
	So if you have a belief of yours, it has to withstand rational inquiry for the time.
	So you can't be like, well, this is how it is because it's evolutionary reason that I'm saying if it doesn't make sense in 2023, then you're stupid for following that.
	Okay, really?
	So let's go ahead with some rational inquiry.
	Why is it that women still prefer men that are stronger than them, taller than them, make more money than they do, are superior to them in almost every regard, even though they're able to create their own security with their own jobs, get their own education, protect themselves through the police state?
	Why do women still screen for all these factors if they don't need it and we live in this modern world?
	Well, it's changing.
	So yes, women still, because it's still recent, especially if we look If you look at our evolutionary trajectory, it's still recent that women have been able to get these opportunities and since then, if you look every single year, more women are okay with making or their partners making less and less than before.
	So hypergamy is on the decline.
	You can look this up.
	I would argue it's actually on the incline.
	Okay, well that's just contrary to stats, but I don't know what to do.
	Well, here's the thing.
	There's a bunch of articles that show that women find men as less economically attractive than ever before.
	Why do we have higher divorce rates?
	Why do we have...
	We don't have higher divorce rates in the past.
	And how long?
	How long?
	Okay, look.
	Divorce rates, women initiate 70 to 80% of divorces.
	Yes, and you constantly...
	And marriages are at the lowest that they've ever been.
	Why is that?
	So this is something I see you do.
	You don't understand stats.
	You just don't get it.
	So for instance, you say college-educated women, for instance, initiate more of the divorces, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Which is true.
	But then you take that.
	I've seen you do it.
	You don't get it.
	Then you say, oh, college-educated women are more likely to get divorced.
	They're actually way less likely to get divorced.
	One of the best things you can do to actually prevent divorce is to get married to a college-educated woman, especially if you're looking at longevity.
	A college-educated woman is 80% likely to have a marriage that lasts at least 20 years.
	A woman without a college degree is only 40% likely.
	But you guys conflate that because you're like, they're more likely to initiate a divorce.
	So when two people are getting divorced, yeah, a woman that has more resources is going to be more likely to initiate and leave a shitty situation.
	But those women are actually less likely to marry people or get into circumstances where they're going to divorce in the first place.
	One of the number one things you should look for if you're looking to make sure your marriage lasts is to marry a college educated woman.
	These stats have been replicated year after year after year.
	They're in 2023.
	I looked up 2023 stats right before this.
	One group of women has marriages that last longest and are least likely to get divorced, and that is college-educated women.
	But you guys constantly conflate those stats.
	Yeah, but it's harder for college-educated women to find a man in the first place because their standards go up alongside it.
	And again, this is not true, though, because you're with, like, I'm a lawyer.
	I could marry a lawyer in two seconds.
	I'm constantly around other lawyers.
	College-educated women are around more educated men.
	The best position you could be in to marry a lawyer is to be a lawyer yourself.
	They marry lawyers most often.
	What percentage of men are lawyers?
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	We got completely off topic there.
	All I'm saying, because this all started with me saying that just because we have modern conveniences does not necessarily mean that women have changed their mating practices.
	Women still want a man superior to them in almost every way if given choice.
	But it's going down as times change.
	So you guys are teaching something that's actually becoming less and less valid as time goes on.
	That's all I'm saying.
	I don't know about that because even though women are more educated now than ever before and they have all the opportunities, all the same rights and privileges, they still want a man that's better than them.
	I would argue hypergamy goes up as women are educated because women are less likely to settle when they are higher earners.
	Well, I mean, technically, yeah, but these women don't have to settle because you're around other high earners.
	That's what I mean.
	Lawyers tend to marry.
	It's called assertive meeting.
	You're around other lawyers.
	You're going to marry.
	Lawyers marry other lawyers.
	Doctors marry other doctors.
	If I'm in a law office 24-7, it's so easy for me to marry a lawyer.
	This idea that you guys have.
	I don't know about if it's so easy to marry one.
	Yeah, I don't know about Miami podcasting world, but lawyers are not marrying 18-year-olds that work at McDonald's.
	They're marrying other lawyers.
	Engineers are marrying other engineers.
	So the point is that men are not pigeon-toed to marry within their class, their socioeconomic level.
	They are.
	It's the attraction similarity hypothesis.
	It's one of the most researched theories in the psychology of attraction.
	You tend to mate across IQ, across socioeconomic status, across education.
	This is how people generally mate.
	Generally, men are totally okay with dating down.
	They're more okay with dating down.
	And again, I don't know what, maybe in new money world, it's different, but lawyers and doctors, they're not marrying girls like the work of CVS. It's just not a thing.
	And they're not marrying hot girls off Instagram.
	My mom's a lawyer.
	My sisters are lawyers.
	My cousins are lawyers.
	All my friends are lawyers.
	If we all met up and one of them was like, oh, I'm bringing my girlfriend.
	This is a 19-year-old I met on Instagram.
	Never would happen.
	They're dentists.
	They're other lawyers.
	Yeah, they're not going to bring them around y'all.
	But are they marrying them?
	If they're marrying them, then...
	They are marrying you.
	They are divorcing them.
	But I'm far less likely to divorce them.
	That's what I just told you.
	Look up the stats.
	College-educated women get divorced the least.
	The likelihood that my marriage is going to last 20 years is 80%.
	I don't know who here just has a high school education.
	That's 40%.
	That's double.
	You specifically or you mean women that are lawyers?
	College-educated women.
	Me?
	I don't even believe in marriage, so not me, but...
	So...
	Yo, he was funny?
	He should say Destiny.
	She shifted me up.
	I addressed a bunch of your points, and then you're, like, moving it.
	No, what point did you address?
	You know, I like to argue I'm a lawyer.
	Yeah, no, I know that, but, like, the whole point about, like, you were saying rational inquiry, like, women, times have changed, and women have changed, and evolved in it, but I would argue women have not evolved, because women still want a man that's over six feet tall.
	Do you know I don't know how long it takes for evolution.
	So the fact that women have been able to work...
	I get that, but my argument is simply that women haven't really changed that much as to what they're attracted to.
	That's all I was arguing.
	If that's the case...
	You tried to make the argument that they did because of modern conveniences.
	I'm arguing evil modern conveniences.
	Women haven't really changed what they're attracted to.
	There's so many articles.
	I implore your audience to look up how hypergamy is on the decline.
	It's still a thing.
	I'll give you that.
	But it's on the decline as circumstances change.
	If it's on a decline, why are more men reporting lower levels of sex than ever before?
	Are you looking at the 2018 study?
	No, there was one literally that just came out that showed guys between 18 and 20.
	Well, part of the reason that's also happening is because people are getting married older.
	So a lot of the reason people had sex younger before is because they were married.
	That's one of the reasons that people say that.
	And I'm not saying that some men don't have it tough out here.
	Not some, a majority.
	It's not...
	It's not a majority.
	Yes, it is.
	A majority of men aren't struggling?
	A majority of men are not...
	I mean, maybe a majority of your audience, but...
	No, a majority of men are struggling.
	A majority of men in general are struggling with women.
	If they weren't, you weren't able to leave a lucrative law career and go into OnlyFans and make a bunch of...
	Wait, so OnlyFans is only because men are struggling?
	Who are your clients?
	Very normal, educated men.
	No, they're not, though.
	I have so many couples that watch me.
	Upwards of 90% of men consume and watch porn.
	You guys also don't understand that highly educated people don't have the same views on sex work as you guys do.
	So a lot of them, if they're going to watch porn, they'd rather watch it in an ethical way.
	OnlyFans is the way you can watch ethically.
	The money goes directly to the creator.
	Nobody's under 18.
	We all have to be verified.
	But I feel like guys who get pussy don't subscribe so many times.
	That's absolutely not the case.
	That's just not the case.
	I mean, you can feel that way, but that's just not true.
	The reason why pornography is so popular nowadays, especially, is because it's so easily accessible.
	You can get it for free.
	Guys are able to satisfy their sexual thirst through variety, through the internet.
	And a lot of guys are struggling with women.
	I mean, this is a fact at this point.
	This isn't even like, I don't think so, blah, blah, blah.
	A majority of men absolutely struggle with dating and meeting women in the first place.
	What do you mean by struggle?
	Like, where was that?
	Like, how was struggle?
	How was that tested for?
	Like, what is struggle?
	Like they're having like that just means they can't get every girl they want or are they not having sex?
	Like majority of men are not not having sex unless you're looking at a specific cohort age group or that 2000.
	How do you know?
	What do you mean?
	How do I know?
	Because that's not what the stats show.
	I mean, what's your study?
	What do you mean, what's my study?
	Just like that same 2018 graph that all the incels, like you guys, not saying you guys are, but you guys use, that's not been replicated in 2019, 2020, 2021.
	That actually shows more women are having less sex than men are.
	And though even that one was at a third, I don't know where you guys are getting majority.
	Majority is over 50%.
	And if you guys are saying struggling, you have to define struggling.
	Struggling is a very vague term.
	So if you're saying struggling in the sense of, oh, they're struggling because they can't get the baddest bitch on Instagram, sure.
	But what do you mean by struggling?
	Most guys have a very difficult time getting dates, getting any type of intimacy from a female, and being able to be successful in their dating ventures.
	Most guys really struggle.
	Women find 89% of men is unattractive on Tinder, Bumble, and all the dating apps.
	Guys struggle on that.
	A lot of guys have issues with being able to go up to a girl and talk to her.
	I'm sure plenty of you guys have experiences where a guy comes up to you and he's awkward, he's stammering, he can't necessarily say what he wants to say.
	What I'm saying is that...
	The reason why pornography is exploding in popularity is because so many guys struggle with women and so many guys are socially awkward and aren't able to convey attraction through the way that they behave or the way that they speak.
	I don't think pornography is just, like, some of us, like, I mean, even when I'm in a relationship and I'm horny, I masturbate, I look at porn, like, sometimes even if you're happy in your sex life, those men still look at...
	Here's a key word.
	You don't have to do that.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but how are you assuming they have to?
	So if they're watching it, they have to.
	Can Matt go out and get laid as quickly and as easily as you can?
	No, but that's different.
	That's very important, though.
	Yeah, but just because they can't do it as easily as I can doesn't mean that every time they're watching porn is because they don't have sex with anyone ever.
	Right?
	Like, can't...
	A lot of men, upwards of 90 men watch porn.
	Upwards of 90 men single?
	Tiny percent of men single?
	I mean, maybe you guys are going to say upwards of 90 percent of men are all struggling and they're desperate.
	Men don't have the same sexual access and ability to attract the opposite gender that women do.
	So even if they are getting laid with maybe one girl or maybe a girlfriend that no longer fucks them or takes them seriously, whatever, does not necessarily mean that they're still not struggling with females in general, especially if they have a female or they have a girlfriend.
	She's not getting sex anymore.
	She's not attracted to women.
	But you're creating a false dichotomy.
	You're saying that, okay, if I'm watching porn...
	And that's 100% obviously because I still could get somebody else.
	But you're saying every time a guy is watching porn, every guy that's on OnlyFans has no options.
	They can't get sex.
	They're all struggling.
	I didn't say that.
	I said excessive porn consumption a lot of the times is a byproduct of...
	Excessive?
	Excessive?
	Like problematic porn use?
	Because that's what the medical term for it is.
	I think that you have more of a case for.
	But not just normal consumption of porn.
	Here's the thing.
	Guys that are good with women typically don't watch pornography.
	And where are you getting that from?
	Is there a stat on that?
	Or is that your feelings?
	No, that's not my feelings.
	I mean, that's anecdotal at that point.
	Because every guy I know that's good with women, which is a minority, right?
	So you can't do a study on that.
	You can't go line up a bunch of guys like, okay, I need guys to have a lay count of this much, blah, blah, blah.
	Everybody that I know that's good with women typically does not watch pornography.
	Okay, so if we're just doing a battle of the anecdotes, I know plenty of guys that are good with women and they still watch pornography.
	So now we're just your anecdote versus mine.
	You don't know that, though.
	What do you mean I don't?
	So you know and I don't?
	They talk to you, but they don't talk to you?
	Well, they're not going to be as honest with you.
	They're going to try to maybe put themselves in a certain light or maybe they're having sexual prostitutes.
	Well, at that point, your claim is in false survival.
	Or they're having sexual prostitutes, etc.
	Like, they're not going to be as honest with a...
	With a female.
	And again, like I said before, then your claim is not falsifiable.
	If it's not falsifiable, we're not talking about logic and science.
	The bottom line is this.
	Men absolutely struggle in the sexual marketplace with finding and dealing and dating with women.
	Like, that's a fact.
	Yeah, some men.
	A majority.
	I don't know about majority.
	It depends what you mean by it.
	So you're saying they struggle, they're not getting all the women they want?
	I would say yes, then that's true.
	If that's what you mean by struggle, then yes.
	Their mental health is really freaking crushed.
	Can I explain something to you that I said earlier?
	Yeah, guys are absolutely struggling with women.
	That's like a fact.
	I would argue majority.
	Yeah, you would argue majority.
	I would say it's not a majority.
	So that's where we disagree.
	What percentage do you think struggle then?
	I don't like to talk about what I just think.
	I like to look at what data we have available.
	Yeah, but you also have to be realistic and understand that some studies are not going to pass ethical standards.
	Trust me, I listen to a lot of studies and I look at the ones that are replicable, falsifiable, peer-reviewed.
	I know how to read studies.
	I'm sure there are stats on there, but even the worst ones I've seen show it at about a third.
	A third is still not a majority.
	That's still a lot.
	Yeah, it's a lot.
	I agree.
	And that's just the guys that are reporting.
	And we know that men are more likely to over-report their sexual activity.
	Well, we also have no way of knowing that those men that are struggling are the ones watching OnlyFans or watching more porn.
	A lot of problematic porn use also overlaps with anxiety, depression.
	There's a bunch of other stuff.
	There's something called moral incongruence.
	So they've done tests, but they look at men who think they have a problem with porn and men who don't.
	I'm just saying porn consumption is a component of guys struggling with women.
	I'm not saying that is the reason.
	I'm saying that's a component as to why guys struggle.
	So you're saying it's correlated or it's causing or what do you say?
	It's a part of the issue.
	So which one comes first?
	Guys struggle with women.
	And then they watch porn?
	Or so watching porn doesn't make them struggle?
	Some people make that claim.
	Sorry, I'm just trying to clear.
	It could be either or.
	Every situation is different.
	It could be either or.
	But what I'm saying is that the bottom line is that men struggle with women and a way to deal with struggling with women and being able to get the variety or the sexual access that they want is they revert to pornography.
	That's one way, but there's also, if you look at the people that watch porn, that's one reason someone might watch porn, but there are a multitude of other reasons.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Some people are just fucking horny.
	I literally just said that too.
	That's just one component.
	It could be going through pornography, prostitutes, etc.
	Your initial claim was that, oh, the reason that this is happening with pornography is just because of this.
	I never said just because.
	I would say it's a component then.
	I agree with you.
	I'm sorry if you said just because if you didn't, but I don't even think it's a huge component.
	What I'm saying is that your industry literally is a majority of men and as a result, these men are lazy.
	Some men, of course, don't want to go out and Yes, it's a percentage of them, yes, but I don't even think that's a big percentage, and that's where we disagree, and unless we have evidence for either of our claims.
	Regardless, men do watch you, and the majority of your audience is men.
	Yeah, the majority of my audience is men, correct, but that doesn't mean they're all lonely men, or that they're all lazy men, or that they can't get girls, or any of those claims.
	They put you on mute.
	A lot of guys struggle with women, man.
	I mean, like I said before, there's a reason why we got like 20,000, what, 15 or 20k people watching us or whatever it may be.
	Like, a lot of guys watch this type of content.
	There's been an explosion in dating content.
	Why is that?
	The reason why is because there's clearly an issue with guys being able to meet, deal, and date with women.
	Yeah, there is an issue, and the ones that watch this are probably the ones that have the issue.
	I agree.
	And there's a rise of virgins, especially on the men's side as well.
	Yeah, and we're looking at in the age range, and that's what I said.
	We're also getting married later.
	Women find most men unattractive.
	Yeah, but I don't see how that relates to that.
	That absolutely relates, because since women find most men as unattractive and not good candidates, they're not going to give them a chance, and those guys struggle.
	Agreed.
	That's all I'm trying to say.
	Most men are not, so like, most of these men that are unattractive, there's no data that indicates tall men get married more.
	Actually, fat men, there's some studies that show they have more sex.
	Poor people have more kids than rich people.
	This idea that only the top, like, That's because they're not as likely to use contraception.
	They don't have access to birth control.
	But they're having sex.
	No, even when you look at partners, though.
	When you look at partners, it's average to tall guys have on average three more partners.
	Weight BMI doesn't seem to have an effect on it.
	It's game.
	Okay, well, then they have game.
	Okay, whatever you want to say.
	But this idea that, oh, you have to be rich, you have to be this, you have to be...
	There's a reason that rich guys are not having that much more sex than some poor guys.
	They're just having sex with different women because we tend to have sex with people around us.
	But it's also intent as well.
	If I intend to do something, I have intention behind my actions, I will get what I want.
	So yeah, men who want to have sex have sex.
	You're right.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	But can they is a question.
	And we're seeing that fat men can't do it just as much as fit men.
	And we're seeing short men do it almost as much as tall men.
	So this idea that people are mating.
	Okay?
	Everyone's mating.
	A lot of people.
	I'm not saying everybody.
	But a lot of people are.
	And it's not just the tall.
	It's not just the rich.
	It's not just the skinny.
	People are mating.
	People are having sex.
	With who they want to?
	Women are.
	Men, a lot of men.
	Women are having sex with a smaller percent.
	There's a reason why only 40% of men since the beginning of time have been able to pass on their genes.
	Versus like 99% of women have been able to pass on their genes.
	Since the beginning of time.
	What do you mean when you say the beginning of time?
	Since the beginning of time, humans...
	Like the Big Bang?
	Because we weren't even like...
	Here we go.
	You're moving goalposts.
	I'm simply telling you...
	This is just a bizarre claim at the beginning of time.
	Are we telling a story?
	No, no, no.
	Look, I'm simply saying it's a phrase.
	What I'm basically telling you is men since...
	The beginning of human evolution have had issues with mating.
	It's not just a modern situation.
	40% of men have been able to procreate versus 90 plus percent of women have been able to procreate.
	So what does that tell you?
	That tells you that a majority of men are just unattractive to a majority of women.
	And that's okay because women are the ones that carry on the next generation.
	So they have to be more selective in their mating practices.
	What I'm saying is that as a bipartisan, women being more selective in their mating practices, a majority of men are virtually invisible.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I disagree with it being a majority, but I don't want to keep everyone.
	Fantastic.
	Okay.
	Bad faith for like almost 30 minutes.
	She shot things out to those big balls.
	Yeah, no, it's fine.
	It's fine.
	Where are we at here?
	Okay.
	Ladies, if a woman demands that you can only smash her, she should be ready to get...
	I think we were on her for why you said no.
	Because she's saying that men and women are equal.
	That's how this all started was men and women are equal and I disagree with that.
	I mean, I would argue you don't even pick men that are equal to you.
	What do you mean?
	In what way?
	What do you mean by equal?
	Because we could be selecting for different traits.
	You said that you don't fuck your peers at all.
	I don't what?
	Fuck your peers.
	I don't fuck my peers?
	Lawyers, whatever.
	I mean, I barely fuck anyone but that's just me.
	Why?
	Because I'm boring.
	You're not boring.
	No, it's choice.
	Because you're selective, which is what I was saying before.
	Yeah, but I'm not selecting for resources and all the things you guys say.
	I like high intelligence, high humor.
	Which are indicators that create what?
	What does high intelligence and humor and all that?
	That we're going to have a good fucking time.
	Okay, and what else?
	That is going to be a fun life for me.
	Someone that's intelligent also is more likely to make money, correct?
	Yeah, but I don't care.
	Actually, I make a lot of money on OnlyFans.
	He's not going to make as much money as me by being super intelligent unless he's like a tech genius or something.
	Yeah, but women typically look for traits that will make someone an indicator of them being able to create security in the future.
	That's why women look for ambition, a guy that's a go-getter.
	Well, actually, this is similar to the thing I was saying, the attraction similarity hypothesis.
	People should look it up.
	It's really well studied in the psychology of attraction.
	People tend to mate across.
	So I like to talk.
	I like to debate.
	I like intellectuals.
	So I like men that can also do that.
	I don't care how much money you make because I can pay my own bills.
	You can say that, but I would say if you were to take the guy seriously and do something, go with him in a direction where it's going to be a more serious relationship, how much he makes absolutely will play a factor in it.
	I mean, he can't pay his own bills.
	He wouldn't care how much money you made.
	That's my point.
	Yeah, men may not care as much about how much money a woman makes, but they do care about intelligence and education, especially educated and intelligent men.
	I can assure you that.
	And that's even better.
	Look up the necessities and luxuries of mating.
	It's a great study they just did where they look at when choices are constricted, restricted, men do look for physical attractiveness, women look for financial security, so these are necessities, but they also found researchers found that intelligence is one of those.
	Now when people have an abundance of options, then they usually have a threshold like, okay, she has to be this attractive, then they look for comforts.
	Kindness, whatever.
	But intelligence was actually found to be a necessity.
	People have a threshold.
	Both genders equally have a threshold for how intelligent they want their mate to be.
	That's a necessity.
	Yeah, IQ hurts women, though.
	Women that have higher IQs, since you want to talk about studies, the higher woman's IQ, the less likely she is to be married.
	College-educated women are most likely to be married.
	The higher your IQ, the more likely you are to be married.
	Higher IQ actually hurts women with finding a mate.
	I didn't look at IQ, but I know college-educated women are more likely to be married.
	But that doesn't...
	I know that's not IQ, but I didn't look at the stats on IQ, but I do know that college...
	Because you're talking about being highly intelligent, etc.
	Well, people that...
	Women that are highly intelligent have a tougher time finding a man.
	Because you don't put up with bullshit.
	So you don't want a man?
	I didn't say I don't want a man.
	I said I don't want to be married.
	I don't believe in making lifelong commitments, lifelong promises.
	I only make promises for the foreseeable future.
	Life is not foreseeable.
	Emotional damage!
	I'm going to leave it there because everyone needs to talk.
	Okay, I get it.
	So for you, the chat was basically saying if your man wanted to step out because he didn't want to have sex, we asked a question, do you agree yes or no?
	You said no.
	Why do you say no?
	Yeah, I mean, like, every partner has, like, two different needs.
	So, like, if my man that I'm with right now has needs to have sex, like, all the freaking time, like, three times a day, five times a day, I don't even know.
	Like, if that's his needs, if I have chosen to be with him, I have chosen to be with, like, all of him.
	So, like...
	So, you're cool with it?
	I'm not cool with it because me personally I wouldn't I could love him like he could be the best boyfriend in the world the best partner like the best person in the world but for me it's a such a big thing I wouldn't be comfortable with that so I couldn't I would probably still want to be like friends or something like it sucks to say that because it never works out probably usually but like me personally it wouldn't work you know what's crazy?
	what?
	what's he doing right now?
	I'm an onion.
	No, no.
	What is he doing right now?
	Oh, he's a promoter.
	So that means you don't know what he's doing 24-7.
	So, he's probably gonna...
	I'm just saying, look...
	To be honest, like, I'm so secure in everything, in the relationship, in myself.
	Like, if he wants to shit on me, I would be the one paying money for him to shit on me.
	Because then I know I don't need to spend the time on him.
	And I don't blame him.
	Like, I would blame him for cheating on me, for, like, breaking your trust.
	But, like, if he would break off with me...
	Ten minutes before, like, fucking another girl.
	Like, that would suck.
	That would suck.
	But, like, then he doesn't break the trust.
	But, it's still, like...
	I would wish for the cheating or him doing something with someone else to happen way before, like, now, today, or, like, yesterday, than if it does, like, in a year or two years or five years.
	Like, I don't know.
	Because you want to catch him in any breakup.
	Yeah, but, like, why would I... Like, for me, personally, it's such a big thing.
	So, like, why would I spend the time on this person that can't affect my personal needs?
	The same thing with the man that wants to have sex five times a day.
	And if I can't, like, give...
	Like, I don't know.
	Give him that.
	Like, why would I stay in the relationship?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Why can't your guy step out now for you?
	Because he must wait until I feel like having sex again.
	But I do whatever my man wants to do, so that's not really going to be an option.
	So you have a man?
	I told you, some days I do, some days I don't.
	So she doesn't have a man?
	I do, if I feel like it.
	Hang on, what I feel like for the day.
	Gotta be Jamaican.
	Well, not just that.
	I mean, that tells me a lot about the man.
	If she could say that.
	Yeah.
	That's an L. Yeah, that's an L for you.
	That nigga's an L, bro.
	My shorty said today.
	Single you on the streets.
	That day, you buy yourself today.
	Yeah, man, that's an L. Goddamn.
	I'm sure you bought you that watch too, but it's alright.
	What about you?
	I have one.
	Old?
	She's one years old.
	Brush?
	Is that why your arms are folded?
	What are you trying to say?
	No, because I was telling him that I was hiding my rules.
	I wasn't going to say it, but okay, cool.
	Alright, so he would have to wait until you want to have sex again.
	If you're not in the mood to have sex, would you let your girl leave the house?
	If I'm not in the mood?
	Yes.
	Well, sex isn't my duty as a man.
	Right, but I'm just asking you.
	Would you let her leave the house?
	If she wanted to have sex and I didn't want to give it to her.
	Yes.
	For what?
	I mean, she could do what she wants, but my job isn't to give her sex.
	What's your job?
	My job is to protect and provide for my girl.
	So whose job is it to give her sex?
	It's her job to give me sex.
	I mean, it's very simple.
	If you look at it, men typically trade resources of protection and provisioning for sexual access.
	That's just how it's been.
	And honestly, that's what women typically, I would say, want because they want to protect a provider and a provisioner.
	They just want that guy to be attractive.
	The problem is that most guys don't have everything in one package.
	So what ends up happening is, like in her situation, right, she has a guy that's a provider, but he's not maybe physically arousing or maybe he's not attractive.
	There's no spark.
	So she made him wait for eight months, extracts resources from him because he was able to fulfill one thing while she's simultaneously able to get with other guys that might be more attractive, more arousing.
	So a lot of the times women have different men that fulfill different needs.
	But if a guy completes everything, that girl wants to be with him.
	So her job is to provide me sex because that's why men deal with women in the first place.
	If you guys didn't have titties and vaginas, men wouldn't talk to y'all.
	Being honest.
	Would we talk to you guys if you didn't have dicks?
	If we didn't have what?
	Dicks.
	Like, I mean, what do you mean men?
	Yeah, because a lot of girls still talk to guys and don't fuck them.
	Yeah.
	Maybe you guys don't talk to women?
	Some people want to work and be normal and have friends of both genders.
	Give a prime example right here.
	He was literally waiting for...
	Yeah, I get it.
	You guys wouldn't mate with us if we didn't have vaginas.
	We wouldn't talk to y'all either.
	We're 50% of the population.
	What would you do?
	We probably wouldn't interact with you guys.
	I mean, just being very honest here, women don't provide much utility to men outside of sex and relationships.
	So what do men provide you?
	Like conversation, intellect?
	Brotherhood.
	Okay, well it's very simple.
	Who has more requirements of the opposite gender?
	I'm just saying that men and women are friends.
	They're family.
	They're not just sex fiends for each other.
	Family is different.
	Dating aspect.
	This is what I mean.
	Family, and then your cousins, and then their friends.
	No, we're not talking about dating.
	That's what I said.
	You wouldn't date women if they didn't have vaginas.
	That makes sense.
	We wouldn't court them either.
	We wouldn't spend our time with them in general if we didn't get sex from them.
	Here's the thing.
	Men, a lot of the times, tolerate women and deal with women for sexual access.
	A guy will go out and hang out with a girl that he doesn't like for sexual access.
	Women typically don't do that.
	Yeah, that's true, but that doesn't mean that men don't have female friends and females they respect.
	A lot of the times when guys have female friends, it's for sexual access to some degree.
	I think people in your demographic, yes.
	No.
	Yo, you and Destiny have to meet.
	I swear to God.
	No, man.
	Like, bro.
	You really think that men want to be platonic friends with women in general?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Yeah, I do.
	That women try to have sex with you?
	No, they don't try to have sex with me.
	But, like, I'm not saying your guy's a standard for, oh, you can't be a friend.
	Let's do a test.
	Call one right now.
	Say I'm horny.
	Yeah, let's see what happens.
	They would think I had an aneurysm.
	Let's see if they think that.
	Let's see.
	Hey, you know what?
	I'm just curious.
	Why we didn't work out?
	I'm horny.
	Where you at?
	Let's see if they were trying to have sex with you or not.
	Since you think they're platonic friends.
	Sure, they're going to think I lost my mind.
	And I made them all download Rumble for the first time to watch this.
	Oh, so they're watching Rumble.
	She's smart, bro.
	She's smart.
	I mean, I'm being honest with you.
	You don't understand how many lawyers I put onto this that were like, what the fuck is this?
	This is like a different planet to them.
	So this is interesting.
	No, they just don't watch this kind of stuff.
	It's very simple.
	Women don't bring as much utility as men do.
	What is utility?
	Utility, like being useful.
	Like men have to be stronger, provide more, be competent, etc.
	I mean, even yourself.
	You said, I don't have sex with most guys.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	I need a guy that's intelligent, etc.
	A man has to meet a bunch of different requirements.
	So you want a woman that's just attractive.
	So I'm saying I want a man that's intelligent.
	No, and that's okay.
	But what's harder to achieve?
	Intelligence is genetic just as much as being attractive is.
	Intelligence is highly genetic or yeah, intelligence IQ is highly genetic.
	So you guys might, if you want your children to be smart, maybe you should have sex and have children with a smart woman.
	Plus, they have way...
	Here's the thing.
	You like to go on, like, move the goalposts.
	I'm simply saying this, okay?
	Because we were talking about sex as a woman's job.
	What I'm saying simply is that men in general would not deal with women if it were not for sexual access.
	However, women would deal with men if they didn't have sexual access because men have to bring far more utility to deal with the opposite gender.
	A guy's got to be charismatic, funny, have money, be attractive, etc.
	All these things.
	A woman can still get value from a man without fucking him.
	But in general...
	Most guys are not going to get value from a woman if he's not fucking her.
	Now, are there some women out there that will be able to pull some strings and help him out in this situation?
	Of course.
	But a majority of women, no.
	I would say in the mating context, yes.
	If we didn't have vaginas yet, you wouldn't probably put your dick in it.
	Yeah, that's true.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	And at this point as well, if my girl was horny and she wanted to smash, I'm going to do it.
	Just because I feel like that's me and her between what we do most of the time anyway.
	And if she wants to go out and do it, not as hell.
	Yeah, but what I'm saying is that just like a woman working is elective, a man fucking his girl is elective.
	It's mandatory that I go out and provide and it's mandatory that she goes ahead and provide sex.
	That's how I look at it.
	Well, uh, shall we put up our Instagram?
	Who's?
	What?
	Me?
	My Instagram up?
	I mean, sure.
	No, let's just, no.
	Why not?
	Yeah, good for me.
	So, um, so that's all I'm saying.
	Is that like, because you said, oh, no, well, I'm going to have, give him sex if I feel like it.
	That's like the equivalent to him saying, well, you know, I'm going to protect you only when I feel like it.
	Wouldn't that be kind of wild?
	I mean, that happens sometimes.
	This is like the worst Instagram I've seen out.
	I know.
	I didn't have social media two years ago at all, so I'm learning all of it.
	Two years ago, I had no Instagram.
	I would have been so high value.
	Do you have anything else that you want to say?
	That's it.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No, for sure.
	No?
	Because why would he?
	Are we in a relationship or what is happening?
	You guys are in a relationship, but you don't want to give him sex, so he's going to go out.
	He can go out, but he can come.
	He can't come back?
	No.
	Okay.
	Now, is that in your situation with your boyfriend, if he wanted sex and you didn't give it to him and he stepped out to go get another girl, you'd have a problem with that?
	Well, here's the thing.
	Why we ignore feelings here?
	We love each other.
	So why would he go out and fuck some other girls?
	Because he feels like having sex and you don't feel like giving it to him.
	So hold on, what about his feelings?
	He wants to have sex, but you don't want to.
	So now you're hurting his feelings.
	Well, I didn't say me personally, I wouldn't give him sex.
	Are we talking about myself?
	So you would do it no matter what?
	No matter what.
	Well, it depends.
	Yeah, I mean, can he wait like a day or something?
	What if like I don't want to right now and I want it like...
	This nigga worked 10 hours.
	He's stressed out.
	Says, you know what?
	They want some poom poom tonight.
	You can't have some?
	I mean, yeah, they're fine.
	Like, you know, some people are okay with that.
	But like, just to like put an ultimatum, like if you don't give it to me right now, I'm going to go out.
	And have sex with another woman.
	I have something to say.
	So if he makes an atmosphere where we are going to do it, and it's fine, but he cannot say to me, you have to give me sex.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, to be fair, I don't think he would say that to your face, but it might just happen as a bi-profit.
	I don't have to do anything but die.
	Let's say you're dating a guy, right?
	And he's actually into you.
	But he is super sexual, super horny, whatever.
	And you say to him, you know what, babe?
	I don't know.
	I'm not feeling it today, right?
	He might say, you know what?
	I'm going to go with the boys.
	And then go do it anyway.
	But you would never know.
	He's just putting it in your face so you can see it live in color, what men might do.
	It's not that hard to just wank.
	If it's one day, I think it's a problem.
	As I told before, if the partner needs to have sex all the time, that's a problem in their relationship.
	But if it's a day or whatever, it's not that hard to just wank.
	Me and you would never work out because I meet multiple times a day.
	I haven't said what I am.
	I haven't said what I do.
	I'm just selling by different partners.
	I'm just saying it's crazy.
	It's not that hard.
	It is hard.
	Here's the thing.
	You connect sex with just...
	Physical?
	Yes, correct.
	For a man, right?
	And for a woman, you connect it with feelings.
	And when she doesn't want to have sex with you because you hurt her feelings, you don't connect those two?
	So, notice, right?
	You want to consider your feelings, not his feelings.
	And as a result, I understand that he's a man.
	He shouldn't really focus on feelings so much.
	But at the same time, if you really care and respect your man, you want to please him.
	So, ultimately, you might be mad at him, but you know what?
	Correct.
	I agree.
	This is my man.
	I agree.
	I don't want him wondering about another girl or trying to wander off.
	I agree.
	I'll make sure he's happy.
	Okay.
	It's both sides.
	You love each other, right?
	You don't want to hurt any side.
	And you care for each other.
	So the relationship should be like, I'm giving to you, not how much I'm taking from you.
	Bro, it's like two minutes for sex, man.
	Speak for yourself, Chris.
	Who said that?
	How long does it take you?
	You don't want to know.
	I want to know.
	No, you don't want to know.
	Sounds like a long time.
	That's bad.
	I got problems.
	Let's fly through these.
	What about you?
	So I'm gonna say go.
	We know her situation.
	Alright, what about you?
	Smart.
	Smart.
	What about you?
	You.
	I was one of the people that raised my hand.
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	You said no, right?
	Self-control.
	Exactly.
	But if I'm with a man, I love him wholeheartedly.
	We fuck in all the time, so there's no reason for him to...
	Unless I literally, like, oh, I'm in the fucking hospital, sick, like, that's the only time when I don't want to have sex.
	That's fair.
	Controversial take.
	Some girls on the panel might not like me saying this, but I think if you're a sex worker as a female, you can't tell your guy to be monogamous to you.
	You've lost that privilege and ability to do so.
	We wouldn't date you, so it doesn't matter what you say.
	You'd be surprised.
	Here's the thing.
	A lot of men think the way that I do.
	And what I'm saying is that if a woman's gonna forfeit her modesty, right, and put it out there for the internet to see, right, I would be stupid as a man to take her serious and give her monogamy.
	So if I'm going to be with a woman that shows her goods out to everybody else, because that is effectively cheating from a female frame, Cheating is just violating boundaries.
	So unless there's no boundaries, there can't be any cheating.
	But what if he's fucking me on camera?
	So we're both making money at the same time.
	He can have my money.
	If he's fucking me on camera, he can have all the money.
	Under the authority of your man is different.
	But what I'm simply saying is that a woman that's involved in certain trades, and I would say sex work, whether she's a stripper, OnlyFans, porn star, any type of industry where she's monetizing her sexuality to a degree, I don't think she really has the authority to tell her man that you need to be monogamous to me because she's pretty much forfeited that because when a woman exposes her sexuality to other strange men for monetary compensation,
	that is the equivalent to me fucking another girl because women search for attention and validation from opposite gender, men search for sex, so the functional equivalent is a woman sexualizing herself.
	I would advise all the women that do that, that don't, because some men agree with you, but there's a lot of men that don't, and they should date those men, not you.
	Well, men that have options that are attracted that women actually want, think the way that I do.
	No, where are you getting that?
	Just for your anecdotes?
	Because, like I just said, education, academia leans left, and they don't share your views on sex work.
	I can assure you that.
	That's why I'm able to do this.
	They don't think this constitutes more...
	Education does not necessarily mean someone's intelligent.
	Yeah, but what I mean is a lot of these...
	So you're saying intelligent men now think the way you do?
	Because I don't think that's true.
	Well, guys that understand their value and aren't morons and understand how the sexual marketplace really works would understand where I'm coming from with this because it's a bad trade for you to be monogamous to a woman that is constantly showing her sexuality and putting herself out there for other strangers.
	That's not a good deal for you as a man.
	My bad.
	Because you've said other times that you would go to the club and you would let your woman stay home.
	She's a lawyer.
	She's not an OnlyFans.
	She doesn't do content.
	So you've contradicted yourself a bunch of times because you are non-monogamous in any situation, apparently.
	Because even if the girl is creating content or if she's not, you're non-monogamous.
	Hold on.
	Does my ability to attract a woman, is it contingent upon my body count?
	It's not contingent on a woman.
	Hold on, let her answer.
	I mean, on your body count?
	I mean, I wouldn't date somebody that's like...
	Okay, I don't care what you would date.
	What I'm asking you is, in general, would my ability to find and attract a woman be contingent upon my sexual partner count?
	I mean, no, but...
	Okay, hold on.
	Now stop.
	Is your value contingent upon the body count?
	Hmm...
	I mean, according to you guys, but I don't think that's...
	There you go.
	That is why me not being monogamous is not as big of a deal as a woman being monogamous.
	Men are not evaluated on their past to the same degree that women are.
	Women look for a man with a future.
	We look for a woman with a clean past.
	We are not the same.
	So how come lifetime partners doesn't seem to have any effect on marriage?
	Because I looked at the stats.
	Lifetime, like your body count doesn't seem to have an effect on how likely you are to get married.
	Your likelihood's the same.
	So clearly it's not affecting how desirable women are for marriage because unless maybe they're not disclosing it or something.
	Men don't like sluts.
	Period.
	The bottom line is men don't like sluts and men don't like women that behave like sluts and a lot of the times why guys don't do this is because it's an embarrassment to them and their last name.
	So what I'm saying is that if a woman forfeits her modesty to go ahead and make money through her sexuality, fantastic!
	But you are no longer in a leveraged position to demand monogamy from a man.
	That's what I'm saying.
	And a lot of guys will feel that way whether they tell you to your face or not.
	Maybe they'll step out and go fuck another bitch and tell you about it and say, I'm going to go smash some other girls because you're being on OnlyFans.
	Or they're going to do it and not tell you.
	The point is, is that men are going to feel some type of way about their woman being involved in sex work, period.
	Okay, well that's, so I'm going back to the original claim.
	The stats do not show that women who are sluts or have high body counts are less likely to get married.
	That means men are just as likely to marry you if you're a slut than if not, maybe not each individual man.
	But do you know why?
	If you told every single man your body count up front, they'll question, you know what?
	This is worth it.
	And as well, let's say you don't tell them the exact body count.
	You tell them something that's reasonably like, I would say hi.
	Do people really ask that?
	No, they don't.
	But if you told them up front, they'll question whether they want to be with you or not.
	100%.
	Okay, well, all I'm saying is the stats do not show that lifetime partners have any effect on your likelihood of getting married.
	That's the stats.
	Well, why have marriage rates been plummeting then?
	Why are less men married?
	Because of body count, apparently.
	That could be a part of it.
	I don't think so.
	Because you're looking at it like, okay, so your ability, your body count doesn't affect your ability to get married.
	But what I'm arguing is that why are marriage rates plummeting?
	Because you say you're saying because of body health?
	Where is you getting that?
	That's making a guess.
	No, hold on.
	This is a multifaceted situation where marriage rates are plummeting.
	But I would argue that feminism, women being sexually empowered, women being more promiscuous than ever been before, women acting more like men than they ever have before, all these things contribute to the degradation of the institution of marriage.
	Maybe.
	We don't know.
	Why else would it be then?
	Because women have more opportunity.
	They have more ability to work.
	Thanks to what?
	Thanks to what?
	Feminism, right?
	And that's good.
	That means less relationships with shitty people.
	Not necessary.
	You agree.
	Literally, that's what I said.
	I said feminism.
	That women are more likely to leave shitty situations and abusive situations.
	So that's great.
	But marriage rights have plummeted as a result of that.
	But not because of body count.
	I didn't say that.
	I don't know if that's a component.
	And you slept with everybody in the restaurant and you're with your husband.
	Do you think he's going to appreciate that?
	I don't know.
	Wait, what's your question?
	This is I'm saying, like, if you sleep with a lot of people and you're with somebody, he's not going to want to be with somebody that's fucked everybody.
	So that's why he says women initiate the divorces anyway.
	So he's not initiating the divorce.
	So they're not doing it.
	You don't know what I'm trying to say, though.
	Wouldn't men initiate it, then?
	See, here's the thing.
	Like I said before, it's a very complex situation.
	It's multifaceted.
	I appreciate you saying that.
	Yeah, so we can say...
	I'm saying body count is a contributor to it, but there's a multitude of other reasons.
	How is it a contributor?
	Can you explain that?
	How is it a contributor?
	Okay.
	Thanks to feminism, women have become empowered to make their own decisions when it comes to a variety of things in their life.
	Whether it's partners, career choices, etc.
	All of this, and then you add in the internet, you add in dating apps, you add Instagram, etc.
	All this has effectively done is increase the opportunities and options for women in the sexual marketplace.
	Would you agree?
	Would you agree to that?
	Yes, but I don't think that means that that's what's causing the divorces.
	Women are less likely to be re-partnered than men after divorce.
	That's a stat that's been replicated.
	But here's the thing, but they have more to gain after divorce.
	No, they do far worse.
	This is something you guys say on your show, and I don't understand how, like, do people just not check?
	Women fare off far worse financially, lower standard of living, more likely to be in poverty, more likely to seek government assistance, less likely to re-partner.
	However, men fare off far worse psychologically, more likely to get cancer, more likely to get depression, more likely to have drug and alcohol issues.
	Like, just, this is, this is established.
	If it's so negative, then why are women, like, just running to get divorced?
	I think women want to get divorced when they have, like, an economic, like, when they have resources, they're more likely to get divorced.
	So I agree with you.
	Now that women have more resources, they're less likely to stay with shitty men or in abusive situations.
	But I don't think they're like, oh, my body counts high, let me leave.
	That doesn't make sense.
	I said that's a component.
	That's not the only thing.
	But how is that a component?
	That's what I would like to know.
	Like, what percentage of the component?
	As a byproduct of feminism, women have become more sexually empowered.
	Therefore, they've had higher, Excuse me.
	More sexual experiences.
	So you're saying more sexual experiences leads to a likelihood of more divorce?
	Because I agree, that's a byproduct of feminism.
	I just don't think it's that byproduct that's causing the divorces.
	Like I said before, it's a bunch of things.
	But having higher body counts is definitely a part of it.
	This is how I think it could be a part of it.
	It's one spoke in a spoke wheel of destruction.
	This is how I think you may be right.
	So there's one thing that's really determinant of a long-term relationship.
	It's something called positive self-delusion.
	So positive self-delusion is how much you believe that the person you're with is the only person, even though it's not true, that can bring about the feelings of love, warmth, attachment you feel.
	The more you believe that that person is the only person that can bring it, it's called positive self-delusion.
	You should look it up.
	It's a concept in psychology.
	You're more likely to stay with that person.
	So yeah, if you've never been with anybody else ever...
	What is that more prevalent in?
	Women or men?
	What do you mean?
	Both.
	But who do you think it's more important for it to attach to?
	The man or the woman?
	What do you mean?
	Attached to what?
	What do you mean?
	That concept that Jesus mentioned.
	Who should have it to make things work in a relationship?
	Men or women?
	Well, from the stats, it looks like for both people, the more positive self-delusion you have, the more likely you are to be with your partner.
	But if you have to choose one gender...
	Why do I have to choose one gender if that's not true?
	We're just staying for the argument's sake.
	That doesn't make sense.
	Like, why should I just pick...
	Like, it's not a thing.
	Bro, you and Destiny are two peas in a pod.
	Destiny, what are you about, bro?
	What's it called?
	Positive self-delusion?
	Positive self-delusion.
	Yeah, so here's the thing.
	That basically is a, I mean, that's a kind of roundabout way of saying pair-bonding.
	But pair bonding is an effective...
	Unless you're looking at...
	I've looked this up thoroughly.
	The one study on prairie voles, the rodent, and it's not even replicated on their cousin.
	And they do lifelong bonds.
	Human beings don't do lifelong bonds.
	They even can bond for life just by cohabitating for 24 hours.
	And human beings obviously don't do that.
	A lot of times when their partner dies, they never get...
	Some of them just fucking commit suicide.
	That's not how human beings...
	And this is the one study that shows it.
	There's also...
	People say that, oh, your oxytocin depletes.
	That doesn't...
	Drugs and alcohol can contribute to that.
	So a lot of times people who are hooking up a lot, they also consume more drugs and alcohol.
	But this idea that oxytocin depletes, one of the biggest releases of oxytocin for women is childbirth.
	So unless you're saying that a woman loves each subsequent child less, it wouldn't make sense to say that your oxytocin depletes because you've been with multiple people.
	Women need to attach to a man.
	It's more important for the woman to attach to the man than the other way around, for the relationship to work.
	It's called pair bonding, not one person bonding.
	Because what you mentioned, and the reason for that is because women lose interest in men far quicker than men lose interest in women.
	So it's...
	And you're saying that because why?
	Like why?
	Do you disagree that women...
	I don't know.
	Like, where are you getting that?
	I'd like to know where you're getting that.
	Okay, well, studies show that women lose attraction to men and they lose attraction way faster than men lose attraction to women.
	So in other words, if a woman is far more likely to be less happy in a relationship and have that attraction drop off significantly versus a man, it's slower.
	So is there a study on this?
	Women lose interest quicker.
	What's the study I'd like to look at?
	Women lose interest quicker than men do.
	I'd love to look at the study because I've never seen it.
	I mean, that's just common sense, too.
	Like, who initiates the breakups?
	Like, women absolutely get bored more than men do.
	Women need more emotional stimulation than men do to be in a relationship and be attracted to the opposite gender.
	Men are way easier to please than women.
	I mean, this is just common sense.
	What world are you living in?
	Now you're just arguing and arguing.
	You can't even agree that women lose attraction faster than men do and women require far more mental stimulation by your own admission.
	I need a man that's intelligent.
	Yeah, but the men also need a woman to be intelligent.
	No, but men don't have the same requirements that women have of men.
	Some men.
	Incredible.
	We have found Destiny's co-host.
	I have a question.
	You can't even agree on basic facts.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Don't go to her.
	Somebody was saying something?
	Yeah, don't go to me.
	I don't need you guys.
	I don't want to handle yours.
	I mean, if you can't even agree on that basic concept that women lose attraction faster than men do, then I don't know.
	So you're saying if two people are like madly in love and they're hanging out all the time and they're having a great time, you're saying the woman in that situation is more likely one day to wake up and be like, eh, than the guy?
	Women lose attraction faster than men do.
	I honestly haven't looked at the studies on this and I'm willing to...
	I mean, it's simple if you look at it from a logically sound standpoint.
	Who requires more to be attracted to the opposite gender?
	Women require more of a man to be attracted to him.
	You guys only care about these young, fertile women.
	But a lot of men, like lawyers, I can tell you, they want to actually have conversations with women.
	They don't want women that are...
	Everyone isn't a lawyer!
	I understand.
	Everyone isn't you.
	Everyone isn't a Miami podcast.
	They want to fuck you, so I tell you what you fucking want.
	Globally.
	Not just Miami, by the way.
	And also, are you from Miami?
	No.
	But you're here, right?
	Yeah.
	So our study, our pool of samples are not from Miami.
	This right here just proved that you're arguing in bad faith.
	You can't even concede that women have far more requirements of men than men have of women?
	Tell me why you're getting...
	So this is what I think about men and women.
	People tend to...
	Yes, I do.
	People tend to date people that they get along with, that they both think is funny, intelligent, whatever.
	And this is what the attraction-similarity hypothesis is about.
	This is where studies don't adhere to reality a lot of times.
	A man that is accomplished, that's a somebody, will gladly go out on a date with an 18-year-old that's hot.
	No!
	You guys!
	You guys!
	I'm telling you, in old mind...
	Okay, listen, I do state planning, right?
	I have clients that are multi, multi, multi-millionaires.
	I was handling this before I quit.
	They probably wouldn't have me now.
	Are you with them all the time?
	No, but I see their wives.
	Have you seen their mistresses?
	They don't bring them kids in social circles.
	They take them behind the scenes.
	But I thought you guys were saying a guy will gladly...
	I've heard you guys say a guy will gladly marry...
	A millionaire will gladly marry a girl that works at CBS. I don't know.
	If you guys don't agree...
	That's an example of how much disparity is.
	But will they marry them?
	Because I've done their estate plans.
	They're not marrying those girls.
	They're not marrying 18-year-olds.
	The point is they want younger, hotter.
	That's the whole point.
	Yeah, but to a degree.
	So, for instance, I know people who have had 40, 50 million.
	I'm not.
	Okay, but okay.
	We can move on.
	You can't even concede that women require far more of men than men require of women.
	Can you explain?
	Be hot and be available, and you can go ahead and probably get a date with a guy.
	On the other hand...
	The man, to get a date with a hot girl, he's got to bring way more to the table.
	Women expect way more of men than men expect of women.
	Now, you're taking it to the next level.
	Marriage!
	We're not talking about marriage.
	I'm simply talking about attraction.
	That was a key word I used earlier.
	Okay, I'll give you, like, it's just physical, like, looking at a girl and thinking she's hot.
	My first argument was simply this.
	Women lose attraction far quicker than men do.
	But now we're talking about who's just attracted to each other by looking at each other?
	You're right.
	Men are more attracted to women by looking at them than women are of men.
	I'll give you that.
	And not only that, women need mental stimulation.
	Women need emotional stimulation.
	A lot of men need mental stimulation too.
	You guys don't.
	I agree.
	You don't need mental stimulation at all.
	And the women you're around seem very boring because you don't even like being around them.
	You said they talk about their star signs.
	You're better than me because I couldn't last 10 minutes of someone talking about being a Sagittarius.
	Earlier in the show, you said you was boring, right?
	Huh?
	I said I was boring?
	Yes, you did, right?
	In the sense that I don't like to go clubbing, I don't drink.
	And your only fans is booming, right?
	Yeah.
	So men don't care.
	What do you mean?
	But I'm boring in the fact that I'm nerdy and a lot of...
	Wait, what are you saying?
	Can you please make...
	Can you put this in a...
	Can you have your premises and your conclusion, please?
	What he's simply saying is that by your logic that women have to be interesting, that would not make sense because you have a bunch of people watching your OnlyFans and they don't give a shit about your personality.
	Yes, but some men like to date women that are also interesting and I would say a lot of men do that.
	Some men will say that.
	But it's not a requirement.
	Exactly.
	What do you mean?
	For some men it is.
	A lot of men it is.
	A lot of men.
	That's why the study I showed you, look up necessities and luxuring of human mating.
	Intelligence is a necessity, not a luxury for men and women.
	Not a necessity for men.
	How far in the relationship are you going?
	Are you talking about marriage or are you talking about a simple relationship?
	Well, I'm saying if you're hanging out with each other, if you're going to dinner with each other, first of all, a lot of the guys I date, they don't want to sit around a girl that's just 18 sitting there like, hey.
	You guys seem okay with that, but a lot of men aren't, especially men that are more educated and intelligent.
	They don't want to hang out with 20-year-olds.
	They also don't want to sit across the table and argue with a chick all day either.
	No, but they like to debate.
	They don't think like you, so we don't usually argue as much on stuff.
	They lie to you to fuck you.
	I've slept with under 10 people, so I don't know.
	They're just a waste of their time.
	They're not going to argue with you, because that would impact their ability to get laid.
	I mean, they still do argue with me, just on more, I guess, difficult topics.
	They like to argue with you?
	Yeah, we like talking about free will and objective morality, not like this.
	Yeah, we like to argue.
	We're lawyers.
	No, you like to argue.
	We like to debate.
	What the fuck?
	They want to fuck too, but they also like to debate and have intellectual conversations.
	The mission is they want to fuck.
	Do you fuck them after you debate them?
	Mostly no, I've only fucked seven guys.
	There you go.
	I was busy in law school.
	I didn't know how to take IG pictures.
	Alright, to the school.
	Alright, I'm gonna go into my question.
	Oh, cool.
	Because we got a video.
	And then, guys, from this point forward, I think we're closing on 20k watching live.
	Yeah.
	We're gonna read only $100 and up Super Chats from this point forward, but I'll read the ones that came up before.
	I got a line of questioning here, so I'll just get right into it.
	Alright.
	Have you ever flaked on a date?
	We'll start right here, and then work our way.
	Don't cap.
	Um, I wouldn't call it a date, so no.
	Wait, why wasn't it a date?
	Okay, let me...
	Flake doesn't left the date, or just no?
	Like, you made plans with the guy?
	Okay, we'll keep it simple.
	Let's say you made plans with the guy.
	Oh yeah, cool, yeah, I'm down.
	Dog during the week.
	Dog during the week or whatever, and then...
	What if I paid for everything, and then I canceled?
	Does that still count?
	You still flaked.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And then whether you didn't respond to his sex or you didn't show up or you just ghosted him.
	I told him.
	That's a flake.
	I told him.
	I told him.
	I said, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, so you flaked.
	Okay.
	You flaked.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Have you ever flaked on a date?
	Paid and flaked.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah.
	That's great.
	Okay.
	I see.
	I'm sorry.
	What about you?
	Have you ever flaked on a date?
	Absolutely.
	Oh, yeah.
	She has.
	Yeah, sure.
	What about you?
	I kind of know all the answers already, but I just want to get a body of work here.
	Have you ever flicked on a date?
	Yes.
	What about you?
	Plenty of times.
	Of course.
	What about you?
	Yup.
	Yup.
	Wow, that's messed up.
	Yup.
	I feel asleep.
	I just want to know.
	I just want to know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	No.
	I don't think of everything.
	No.
	I don't think of everything.
	Come on.
	Wow.
	Oh, 10 years.
	Yeah.
	I mean, yeah.
	I mean, no.
	Like, I've never had, like.
	It could be even simple, like, hey, let's go for coffee on Monday, and then you don't show up, or you don't respond to the text.
	It could be simple as that.
	Oh, I mean, in high school, like...
	Okay, so yes.
	So you have.
	Alright, now how many times has a guy...
	Have you ever been flicked on by a guy?
	Ever.
	Yeah.
	Have you flaked on men more, or have you been flaked on more, or have you flaked more?
	No, I don't know.
	I don't really flake.
	What about you?
	Has a guy ever flaked on you?
	No?
	What about you?
	Yes, it has happened.
	Single digits, double digits?
	No, single digits.
	Rarely?
	Yeah.
	You flaked way more than they flaked on you?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	Oh, yeah.
	He probably fell asleep.
	Yeah.
	It's flaking like they don't show up or they cancel.
	Yeah, they cancel.
	Either or.
	Either or.
	Yeah, someone's canceled.
	I'm going to get more descriptive in a second.
	So, have you been flaked on before?
	Someone's canceled.
	They canceled?
	Okay.
	You must have heard your debates.
	Would you...
	Is it as close to as many times as you flaked on them?
	No.
	Okay.
	Or on other men?
	Okay.
	So, not close.
	No.
	What about you?
	Yeah.
	Is it as many times as you flaked on them?
	Or men, in general?
	It's different also because it's not very often that I flaked.
	What I'm asking is, have you flaked more or have you been flaked on more?
	I've done more, but not too much more.
	I don't flake if I've planned.
	What about you?
	Never.
	You've never been flaked on.
	What about you?
	I believe it.
	You've been flaked on before?
	Have you been flaked on more or have you flaked more?
	It happened to me once.
	How many times have you flaked on a guy?
	Plenty of times.
	What about you?
	That's messed up, man.
	Context.
	If you're online dating, I think you go through a series of flake because you're talking to multiple people.
	I'm saying when soft plans are made and you don't show up or you just stop talking to them once things are set up.
	I feel like that's a man thing.
	I think they're more likely to cancel because they're talking to multiple people.
	So you've been flaked on more than you flaked?
	I'm going to be honest, yeah.
	I mean, I believe her.
	But not like a lot.
	But like, if I'm online dating, I believe her.
	And someone, oh, something came up, my car, you know.
	Yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying.
	The baby mama called me, like, it's always weird.
	So you're saying, okay, that's rare.
	All right.
	What about you?
	Have you flaked on men more or they have flaked on you more?
	I flaked on men more.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	I've definitely gotten flaked on way more than I flaked.
	Really?
	Yeah I think guys like make plans and then like you're thinking about it and then they forget.
	I think people I think when people get me they're just like they hold me to this value where like they won a prize they're like oh my gosh I got her attention blah blah blah blah and then like they don't take me serious after that.
	How could they?
	That's messed up.
	They should do that to you.
	I know.
	I believe in you.
	Save our children.
	Okay we'll take it uh we'll take it to the next step.
	Save our children.
	So, pretty much the majority of the women, whatever girl hair is flaked on a guy, and a majority of the women have been flaked on less than they flaked on men.
	My next question now is being a little bit more concrete here.
	Have you ever stood someone up on a date?
	Which means they showed up and you didn't.
	We'll start right here and then work our way.
	Or actually, no, we'll start right here with you.
	Go ahead.
	I don't think so.
	That means yes.
	I don't think so.
	You can't remember?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Where they showed up and I didn't?
	Yeah, like you stood them up on a date.
	Maybe it was purposeful, maybe it wasn't.
	Maybe you literally forgot.
	No.
	You've never flaked?
	I'm sorry, you've never stood a guy up?
	It could be accidental, too.
	7 p.m.
	And then they text you like, hey, I'm here, and you're like, oh, fuck, I forgot about that.
	That's weird.
	I don't do that.
	If I'm going to do something, if you're on my calendar to go on a date, I'm not going to like, no, I'm not flaky.
	Straight to the house.
	She sent the calendar.
	Goddamn.
	All right.
	It's a reservation.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Have you ever stood a guy up on a date before?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	What about you?
	No.
	Never?
	No.
	I'm nice.
	I'll let you know if I'm not going to make it.
	Yeah, but I mean, it counts.
	Even if he shows up there and then you text him, you know, I'm not going to make it.
	So they never actually went to the venue.
	We don't waste people's time.
	Yeah, that's weird.
	What about you?
	No.
	It's not that hard.
	Even if you need to cancel last minute, you don't make them mad.
	Have you ever stood a guy up?
	No.
	Not in the way you're saying.
	Where they go to the venue, no.
	Or on the way to the venue?
	No.
	I'll cancel at least 12 hours before.
	You're so nice.
	I know.
	What about you?
	Have you ever stood a guy up?
	I've cancelled and just like a couple times I've done that.
	That I fell asleep, yeah.
	No, because it's weekdays.
	I gotta wake up working and work the next day.
	Have you ever stood a guy up?
	No.
	All right.
	Video?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so let me ask this question.
	We got you.
	If your son got stood up by a woman, what would you tell him?
	Start here.
	Oh, if they got stood up by a woman?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'll just tell them to keep going and search somewhere else and that that woman wasn't worth it if she just stood him up.
	Or I guess maybe he has to change something.
	Who knows?
	All right.
	What would you tell your son if you got stood up by a girl?
	Well, I would kind of...
	Well, it depends.
	The girl stood him up?
	Oh, then the girl is a complete asshole, respectfully.
	I'd tell my son, like, bro, you can find better.
	And then I'd kind of motivate him to find someone.
	What would you tell your son?
	I would say, you'll be okay.
	You'll survive.
	Shit happens.
	And no one dies from that.
	What would you say?
	Unless she had a legitimate reason that she's not worth your time.
	Her cat died.
	That's a good reason.
	But she should have still texted him.
	Unless he died at the moment.
	I know girls that do really want a dude.
	They'll drive 10 hours to see the dude.
	And her cat died.
	Okay, well those girls have issues in my opinion.
	No, they just want to see somebody.
	That's not normal.
	That is normal.
	I don't think that's normal.
	Now we're just arguing.
	What is not normal?
	If your cat just died, to drive 10 hours to see a guy.
	That's not normal.
	The point is girls will, if they really want to see you, they make it happen.
	That's the whole point.
	If their cat died and they're leaving the house...
	If something's happening to my dog, I'm nothing.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	What if it was a family member?
	If you really like the guy, you're going to show up.
	What if their mom died?
	You still show up?
	Nothing for my dog.
	Mom and cat.
	Wait, that's normal, though?
	If you really like someone, you're saying under any circumstance, they show up?
	The premise is...
	Chris?
	No, go ahead.
	The premise is, if you really like the guy that much...
	Okay, my cat died.
	Give me a second.
	I'll be there, like, maybe...
	Depends how much you like your cat.
	It should be the other way around.
	He should be coming to me and, like, consoling me because my cat died.
	You're still seeing him.
	Like, if you love him...
	If your son got stood up by a girl, what would you tell him?
	The same thing I would tell my daughter if she got stood up by a man.
	The same thing.
	Just like, move on.
	That's a person that didn't respect your time and respect you as a person.
	Okay, what about you?
	I'll tell my son on to the next.
	On to the next.
	You have a son?
	No, I have a daughter.
	Alright, what about you?
	She made you a favor.
	She did you a favor?
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	Alright, what about you?
	Same.
	I have two sons.
	How old are they?
	I have a 10 and a one-year-old.
	When you say the same, would it be on to the next?
	On to the next, you know.
	Very interesting answers.
	Okay, what about you?
	What would you tell your son?
	If she had like a really good reason, I would tell him not to be mad about it.
	No reason.
	She just no text, no show.
	To stop talking to her.
	Alright.
	What about you?
	She ain't the one, baby.
	Alright.
	There are interesting answers.
	I love my shirt, by the way.
	Save our children.
	You know, it's interesting because a lot of the girls, if you are reading through this, you know, find better, you'll be fine, on to the next, she ain't the one, stop talking to her, keep going.
	Women have a natural abundance mindset.
	I don't know if y'all caught on to that, but with their answers, you know what I mean?
	Um...
	But you guys don't really...
	You know what?
	I'll ask that question after the video.
	Let's go ahead and play the video real fast that we have here.
	I don't know what you mean.
	But their answers, guys, are very abundance mindset type answers.
	Women naturally have that abundance mindset.
	So this guy goes, man gets emotional after being stood up at a restaurant waiting for his date to show up.
	I brought flowers.
	I've been consistent talking to this girl for two weeks.
	I made plans.
	I'm just looking for my person.
	So let's go ahead and roll the clip.
	So I just left the restaurant after waiting 30 minutes for a date to show up, and apparently I got stood up.
	I don't know what to say.
	Like, I'm trying to do everything right to be a gentleman.
	I brought flowers.
	Aww.
	I've been consistent talking with this girl for two weeks, trying to get to know what she likes, what she doesn't like.
	I made plans.
	I picked the restaurant for the day and the time.
	You know, I've done everything to be just the kind of guy that would value somebody's time.
	Like, I just...
	I'm just looking for my person.
	I'm just looking for the one that, I guess, is out there for me.
	I may want to be somebody's husband someday, father.
	This is cringe.
	I'm trying to do everything that's right.
	I can't just get stood up.
	My feelings don't even matter.
	Sitting there eating a meal by myself.
	Realizing that nobody even cares.
	It shouldn't be this hard to find somebody.
	It shouldn't be this difficult to fall in love.
	To be kind to one another.
	Ladies, tell me, what did I do wrong?
	everything so I just left the restaurant you probably smacked that in the background I was also like singing all the song and we had um but ladies you saw this video and I want the audience to pay attention to what the girls were doing when they were watching Bro, do a cringe.
	They were laughing, cringe.
	No, I'll let him talk first.
	Okay, so what are your thoughts on that?
	We can start right here.
	I mean, yeah, I feel bad for him that, like, he got stood up, but, like, you just, you know, like, move on to the next person.
	Just keep trying to find another person because, honestly, that person just sucks.
	They clearly left him, like, you know, stood up and whatever.
	He ate a meal by himself.
	It's not the end of the world, though.
	Like, he can stand up and find another person.
	And instead of, like, you know, like, being all sad, You should just, you know, keep going.
	And maybe talk to a friend or something instead of just putting it online because it just kind of makes it even worse for him.
	Alright, interesting.
	People just look at him like a weak person.
	Right.
	Well, I know, like, you could tell, like, it was really hard.
	I mean, I'm not a guy, so I can't really, like...
	I truly understand, yeah.
	But I noticed that it is a lot harder based on also some of my friends that are guys.
	Like, they go through a lot of similar things.
	And it's really hard to kind of push after that because it's kind of like you just took a stop and you're just like...
	Oh my god, like, this just happened to me.
	And then the guy starts questioning themselves because then they're like, oh, am I not good enough?
	Am I doing something wrong?
	So in that perspective, it makes sense.
	But at the same time, it's that push and motivation that they need to ensure that they are confident in themselves because then they think that they're not good enough.
	And sometimes they're actually more good enough than they think.
	Someone said he ate two plates and dessert.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	It's sad, but shit happens.
	Guys also many times disappoint women.
	So I will tell him, you know, cry.
	It's okay to cry.
	You'll be fine.
	Maybe go find therapy that will help you.
	Do you think men flick on women as much as women flick on men though, realistically speaking?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They disappoint many with the other different stuff, you know, like they can disappoint differently.
	But not like that, though.
	Oh, I mean, he just made a really big deal about it on the internet.
	He didn't find out he has cancer.
	You know, you just got to stood up on a date.
	There's other woman in the in the world, you know, it's not like the end of the world.
	Like, oh, my God, I'm so like, yeah.
	Imagine every time that we got stood up for a date or something or somebody flicked on us, we made a video like that.
	Menos crazy.
	Women do actually.
	We do a lot more on TikTok.
	A lot.
	So it's like...
	The reason why men go viral for doing that dumb shit is because they make fun of them.
	When a woman does it, it's all over the place on TikTok.
	Women are constantly crying about not being able to get a guy to take them seriously.
	You even said it.
	He looked weak doing it.
	He's only been talking to her for two weeks.
	Only two weeks.
	That's what he said.
	What are my thoughts on it?
	At first, it was one thing, but as the video went on, I think he has underlying health mental issues.
	That's what I think.
	Give me my thoughts.
	I don't think he's fully normal.
	In the beginning, I was like, oh, this chick sucks.
	People don't do that.
	Don't be an asshole.
	Just cancel if you're not going to go.
	Don't make people take the time, show up places.
	Be a fucking decent human being.
	What if I told you a lot of guys are just like him?
	I don't think a lot of guys are like that.
	And if they are...
	I think a lot of guys get stood up, you're right, but a lot of guys...
	I mean, clearly that video went viral because there's not that many guys doing it.
	You just said that.
	It's viral because a lot of men are in the same shoes as men.
	You just said that it went viral because women do it, and so when a man does it, it's very bizarre.
	It's not as normal.
	Yeah, exactly.
	There's not a lot of men like you're right there are a lot of men who get stood up that feel disappointed but I honestly you asked me my thoughts as the video went on he's different something he I would say he has some underlying mental health condition.
	Yeah here's the thing they call him a retarded Wow!
	You heard that chat?
	Yeah, that's not a typical behavior.
	Being upset, being stood up, that happens to a lot of men.
	But clearly, you guys just admitted, men don't, at least for 45, 60 on camera.
	Okay, so what is it about him that made him do it on camera that other men wouldn't, especially for 60 seconds?
	He's a little different, that's all I'm saying.
	Okay.
	To be honest, like, most men feel that way deep down.
	But they gotta sit in the corner, in the crib, and just cry it out or just, like, figure it out.
	I agree that a lot of men feel disappointed.
	He was brave enough to put it on camera.
	Or dumb enough to put it on camera.
	I don't know.
	Either or.
	Which is why it went viral.
	Because most guys don't ever do that.
	If he stopped it at, like, the first 15 seconds, like, guys, I put in my time.
	This sucks.
	I want to find my person.
	If he stopped it there, it would have been different.
	But the way he kept going, that's my thoughts.
	I mean, most guys like him.
	What I'm saying is that A lot of guys are like him where, you know, their tonality is fucked up.
	They're not really confident.
	They're really like have a scarcity mindset with women.
	We'll spend a bunch of time talking to a girl, bringing flowers on the first day.
	A lot of guys struggle with women just like him.
	I think that's why it resonates with so many guys because who's brave enough to put a camera on him?
	But that goes back to my original point that most men struggle with women.
	I don't think he's most men.
	You just said that people are making fun of him.
	This is a very typical guy.
	This is a very typical guy.
	I think he's adorable.
	He's, I'm not trying to, like, what I mean is you guys just admitted two minutes ago, this is more common with women doing, and especially getting on camera for, I said, if he stopped it earlier, but as time went on, I think he actually has some type of underlying issue.
	And he's great.
	I think he seems very sweet, and that's why I just said girls don't do this.
	Nobody should treat people like this.
	No, you called him retarded.
	I didn't call him retarded.
	I said underlying, he might have mental issues.
	I do think that, I'm being honest, but that doesn't mean anybody should treat any human being like this.
	This is unacceptable.
	I mean, it's ear pods.
	I mean, shaved.
	That didn't bother me at all.
	That's not what I'm saying.
	Here's the thing.
	A lot of men go through the same experience that he's describing right now.
	This is a very average guy.
	You can see he's a little overweight, etc.
	This is where a lot of men fall into this category of where this guy is.
	And that's why I said people don't treat people like this.
	You can say that, but women are going to do that.
	Some women are, and those women suck.
	I agree with you.
	I never did anything like this.
	Did you not hear my answer?
	I never did that.
	You flicked though.
	No, I never stood anybody up.
	Nobody brought me flowers and showed up somewhere.
	And I never talked to someone for two weeks.
	No, and I never talked to someone for two weeks and then flaked.
	That never happened.
	Yeah, that's just a terrible person.
	Guys do that a lot, though.
	They ghost a lot.
	Yeah, they do.
	If he bought flowers weeks in advance, I mean, at that point, he probably has mental health issues, too.
	You just admitted to yourself that you ghost more than they ghost you.
	No.
	Well, half and half.
	Oh, now it's half and half?
	Now it's half and half.
	I would say, yeah.
	Alright, what are your thoughts on this?
	It's the same thing as if a guy like I know he probably puts in more effort like in a way of like getting flowers so like maybe like make the dinner reservation whatever but girls like you should like dress up more like put on the makeup hair do whatever like different things they put in to the date but whatever like it would suck I would probably not like cry and get the video if it happened to me but yeah it would suck for me too.
	I think what he did was adorable and I feel bad for him.
	Yeah, but you won't fuck him though, so.
	No, I wouldn't, but I'm so cute because nobody does that nowadays.
	Aw, little teddy bear.
	Last thing you want is female sympathy, guys.
	Yeah, bro.
	Alright, what about you?
	What are your thoughts?
	Well, as I said, she did you a favor.
	You're not wasting your time anymore.
	I like that.
	I mean, you've been talking to her for two weeks, right?
	But you're not going to talk to her anymore.
	So she cut that and you're better off without...
	But why not from the very beginning say, you know what?
	Nah, buddy.
	You don't got a chance.
	Deuces.
	We all agree that...
	Yeah, I agree.
	That would be better.
	Two weeks of flowers and children took place.
	Even the circumstances.
	That's a person that's just like really...
	This happens a lot.
	Yeah.
	Like, not even a call or anything.
	No, but all of us in here have agreed that that's not, like, okay.
	Yeah, but all of you have flaked on guys way more than they flaked on you.
	But that's stand-up, and most of us have stood up the guy.
	So that's a girl standing up a guy, and most of us said we haven't done that.
	I don't think it's most women doing that.
	Yeah, but how many of you guys have friend-zoned men before?
	I don't think none of us would talk to this guy.
	I'll have him be my friend.
	I'll play board games with him or something.
	I'll have him be my friend.
	I'm pretty sure he could play board games or something.
	Like a taunt.
	That's even worse.
	I'll blow four.
	What about you?
	What are your thoughts?
	It screams overcompensation.
	The flowers, the two weeks, you're corny.
	So I'm pretty sure the girl that he picked was out of his league.
	If you wanted a date, you want to find your mate, go to the library.
	Go to the grocery store.
	Date someone who looks like you, who's going to be attracted to you.
	That's who you marry.
	Do women typically date in their league though?
	Yes.
	Do women?
	Yes.
	People date across, once again.
	Guys, I try to get, like, women up here.
	I try to find the best.
	Women get higher than themselves.
	Yes.
	Men get higher than themselves on attraction.
	It depends what trait you're selecting for.
	This is crazy.
	Where's your lawyer?
	Where's my lawyer?
	Oh, I'm my own lawyer.
	No, no, you said lawyers date lawyers, but where's yours?
	I'm talking to one right now.
	He's watching.
	Does he look like that?
	I'm worried for him.
	He's doomed.
	Leave her number, bro.
	So you think he's only talking to you?
	I don't have that expectation of him.
	Like, at all.
	I'm not like, are you only talking to me?
	No monogamy?
	But here's the thing, though.
	Here's the difference.
	You want to date a lawyer.
	He can go fuck a girl that isn't a lawyer or date a girl that isn't a lawyer.
	That's the point.
	What do you mean?
	What's the point?
	What I'm saying is that he'll talk to you.
	You're a lawyer.
	Fantastic.
	You want a lawyer.
	Oh, awesome.
	But he's capable of dating a girl that isn't a lawyer and being okay with it.
	But I can talk to 200 lawyers if I want.
	I know a lot of lawyers.
	That's what I mean.
	But your threshold starts at lawyer.
	Yeah, but I'm around other lawyers all the time.
	I know a lot of educated men.
	How many men am I supposed to have?
	I know you said I'm destinies whatever, but just like destiny says, you're over your abilities.
	You're missing the main point that he is not constricted to women within his own socioeconomic demographic.
	You can date a girl, it's But a lot of them, they don't though.
	They don't.
	They don't date women at McDonald's.
	Lawyers do not.
	Let me tell you guys this.
	You are not a nigga.
	Listen, you are not a nigga.
	I don't know how to speak like this.
	These niggas aren't stupid, right?
	They're lawyers, right?
	So they know what you like.
	They don't talk like this.
	Listen.
	You guys are just not lawyers.
	You are fucking them, though.
	That's the point.
	What do you mean I'm not fucking them?
	Okay, this is the thing.
	Like I said, I come from a family of lawyers.
	I went to school.
	They don't talk like you guys.
	They don't behave like you guys.
	They don't think like you guys.
	Now, again, lawyers, that's maybe a special group.
	That's fine.
	What do you mean I don't fuck them?
	I don't fuck you guys either.
	I definitely don't fuck you guys.
	You know what's crazy?
	Your same lawyer speech about lawyers.
	I have friends that are lawyers.
	You know what they do?
	They act professional in public, but when it's late night, they're in the club fucking 18-year-olds!
	20-year-olds!
	I think you're missing the overall concept that that guy that you're talking to that's a lawyer has more options in the open dating marketplace.
	I don't need billions of options.
	Please stop interrupting me.
	I'm simply saying that this lawyer that you said that you're talking to has more options in the open sexual marketplace because he isn't constricted to women within his own socioeconomic level like you are.
	So it's cool.
	He's talking to you.
	But what I'm saying is that he's not restricted like you are to a certain demographic and class.
	I don't need the most billions of...
	Just like if someone was like, okay, if you're willing to date somebody with a low, low IQ, then you have more options.
	If you're waiting to date someone that's a meth head, you have more options.
	So that's fine.
	But both men and women aren't looking for as much options as possible.
	A lot of people want someone they actually like.
	What's your name again, sorry?
	Jasmine.
	Jasmine.
	Nice to meet you.
	Nice to meet you as well.
	I'm going to call you for no bad faith Jasmine.
	Excellent.
	Very clever.
	I think the main point here, the takeaway is simply that he has more options because he isn't constricted like you are.
	You are far more selective because you are a female, rightfully so.
	He is a male, so therefore he's okay with dating across and even below social hierarchies.
	Versus for you, it's got to be bare minimum across or above.
	Yeah, but I have more options bare minimum across because they all like me.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I have my pick of a lot of lawyers.
	Fantastic.
	You have your pick of men that will have sex with you.
	But how many of those men are going to put a ring on you?
	I don't even want a ring, but quite a few.
	The point is, how many of these men that are lawyers that have this title, etc., are going to put a ring on it?
	I would argue a minority of them.
	No.
	But like I said, lawyers marry other lawyers.
	Like, look it up.
	Lawyers- But you're not a lawyer right now.
	Yes, I am.
	I'm a licensed attorney.
	But you're a porn star first.
	But they think that's cool.
	They think that's like- It's cool.
	You said it.
	It's cool, but not for long term.
	No.
	You're saying that.
	You're saying that.
	Yo.
	Yo, listen.
	Yo.
	What the fuck, man?
	Fuck you.
	Yo, yo, bad babe?
	Jasmine?
	You're delusional Jasmine.
	Can you do a good one?
	I am telling you.
	I want a better nickname.
	Jasmine, you know what the fuck you're talking about.
	No, I... Your Instagram is...
	Yeah, I know you don't like my Instagram because I'm not used to being on Instagram.
	I like it.
	Don't worry.
	I like it.
	I mean...
	Look, I'm an anomaly because I'm still a lawyer and a lot of other lawyers think what I did was awesome.
	Look, then I'm going to show you.
	Man.
	Men will say and do a lot of things for sexual access to include making a woman feel better about her ego investments, even though they're contradictory to the male sexual vetting process.
	Let me explain.
	But it's not contradictory to the male sexual vetting process.
	I just told you lifetime partners or promiscuity doesn't affect likelihood of marriage.
	Men?
	Don't like women that are hoes or have an image of being hoes.
	So even though you might not necessarily be promiscuous, your job title, the way you present yourself, et cetera, creates an aura that you might be and or are promiscuous.
	And here's the other thing too.
	A man, a lot of the times, because you're saying, I have all these options that are lawyers, et cetera.
	Cool.
	They'll go on dates with you.
	They'll talk with you.
	They'll even debate you at dinner.
	But will they actually get down on one knee and propose to you and marry you?
	I would argue a majority of them probably won't because as a lawyer, your image matters.
	Bringing your girl around and functions matters.
	And here's the thing.
	No one's going to know you by being a lawyer and your JD. They're going to know you for being on OnlyFans.
	And that's going to hurt that man's status.
	A woman's past absolutely...
	Stop interrupting.
	A woman's background absolutely hurts her man's status if she has a promiscuous background.
	What are you saying about CVS? What about the woman at CVS that you say that people go for that?
	That's definitely gonna hurt what you're saying.
	A man can get with a girl that has nothing and elevate her status.
	Lawyers don't do this.
	We're not talking about...
	Okay, you want to use lawyers as an example.
	Cool.
	You want to use lawyers.
	I'm saying in general, men that are higher earning, men that have status, etc.
	are okay a lot of the times getting with a woman that has less status than themselves because men don't care about a woman's status.
	They're going to elevate them.
	There's a reason why...
	There's a reason why a king will marry a peasant and turn her into a queen, but it never works all the way around.
	When is this?
	We're in 2023.
	I'm just using that as an analogy.
	Okay, can I ask you a question?
	So you're right.
	There are some men that wouldn't be okay with this.
	I didn't like those men before.
	I don't like them now.
	Like I said two years ago, I didn't have an Instagram.
	The one man was like, oh, I like that.
	I stopped talking to him.
	My question for you is, yes, some men don't like this.
	I agree.
	Okay.
	Now, I would also say that you, by getting on a podcast 12 hours a week talking about how women are inferior, a lot of women, you're lowering your ability to get women too.
	A lot of women don't want anything to do with that.
	That's embarrassing to a lot of women.
	I'm not trying to insult you.
	But you're saying, oh, I still have a happy life.
	I don't care.
	There's plenty of women who are okay with it.
	I'm saying there are plenty of men who are okay with this too.
	No, because here's the thing.
	My podcast, right?
	Some girls might not like my views or whatever it may be, but here's the thing.
	Men don't derive status necessarily from their ability to be attractive to women.
	I thought you said they do.
	Men don't derive status.
	No, no, no.
	No, men derive their status from creating change in the world.
	Men are defined by their profession and how they impact the world.
	Okay.
	They're not defined by their ability to attract the opposite gender.
	That's a woman's value.
	There's a reason why a woman takes a man's last name and not the other way around.
	A woman's status typically is tied to the value and caliber of man that she can attract and most importantly retain for a long-term relationship.
	As a man, my job is to go out there, be successful, change the world, and a byproduct is women will find me attractive and I pick the best one.
	They're not going to embarrass me.
	Well, this is what I'm saying.
	Some women that are very attractive that you want nothing to do with you because they think you're insane.
	That's fine.
	And some women don't.
	I'm saying the same thing.
	There are some men who want nothing to do with me because I'm on OnlyFans and some do.
	You can find a woman that's going to be okay with all this, but some women that are very attractive that we may otherwise have been attracted to you might think that this is fucking abominable.
	No, it's not.
	And I'll tell you why.
	What is the number one marker for attraction for a man?
	Status.
	Financial security.
	Yeah, it's a financial security which is intimately tied to status, right?
	Now, with a woman...
	It's physical attractiveness.
	It's physical attractiveness and chastity.
	It's not.
	In 2020, there's no stats that say that.
	If that was the case, then it would affect your likelihood of marriage.
	Let's just use common sense.
	No, I don't want to...
	No, because you're making arguments in bad faith and you're trying to say that I can attract all these lawyers, etc., If there are two versions of you, there's a version that you have right now and then a version of you where you aren't on OnlyFans and you have a body count of zero.
	I guarantee you the men would go ahead and prefer the body count of zero version of you versus the version of you now.
	Some and some would.
	I'm just telling you the truth.
	There are some men that are open relationships.
	There are some men that, like, literally, your defined, narrow, distorted view of masculinity in men is not widespread.
	You talk about critical thinking skills.
	Using a little and making broad generalizations about everyone is not critical thinking.
	This is not how that works.
	I want everyone in here to answer the question after we show this.
	So let's just describe this in a nutshell.
	You're saying lawyers will still date you knowing you're the OnlyFans, right?
	Some lawyers.
	The ones that are more liberal.
	Now academia leans left and lawyers are generally more liberal.
	Liberal men aren't attractive.
	They are to me.
	Really?
	You want a guy that's going to sit there and be equal to you and someone breaks in, hey babe, it's your time to deal with the burglars this time.
	Guys, tell me what lawyers are going to bring her out in public and actually say, this is my girlfriend, my wife.
	Please tell me.
	There are lawyers that won't, but that's only because I'm an anomaly because I'm also a lawyer.
	So if I'm at these events, I know how to talk.
	I know, like, if it was a random girl...
	Oh, what did she do for a living?
	Oh, well...
	Okay, let me tell you something.
	Okay, for instance...
	You can't argue this.
	You can't argue this.
	Wait, let's play the audio on this.
	It's a good one.
	You can't argue this.
	Like, tell me, what the fuck are you doing?
	Again, this is another example of just arguing in bad faith.
	If you can't even concede that men in general prefer women.
	Some men!
	A majority of men.
	No.
	Holy shit.
	If that was the case, that would be shown in the stats.
	A majority of men prefer women to have less sexual partners.
	Majority of your viewers.
	The majority of men.
	And it's been this way since the beginning of time.
	No, did Thor care about this?
	Did the Vikings care about this?
	The ancient Egyptians care about this?
	What do you mean the beginning of time?
	It's such a bizarre statement.
	Scientists don't talk like this.
	Virgins.
	Yeah, but he just said since the beginning of time.
	I'm saying there's plenty of, like, Thor didn't give a fuck about your virginity.
	Who's Thor?
	The Viking god.
	The Viking king.
	The Viking Odin.
	Thor.
	Do you guys only think so?
	It's not mythology.
	It's the old gods you guys talk about since the beginning of time, but you don't know the Vikings were here since the beginning of time?
	Look, look, whether it's Islam, Christianity, etc.
	These are newer religions.
	You said the beginning of time, did you not?
	So can you rephrase it?
	Look, in the civilized world, this is the beginning of civilized time, okay?
	Women, right?
	Men have preferred women that had lower body counts and women that were virgins.
	There's a reason why a girl would walk down the aisle in a white dress across different cultures.
	Why?
	Because it symbolizes chastity and purity.
	Men have a very strong interest in a woman's chastity, okay?
	Right.
	Now, with that said, they don't.
	In 2023, it's becoming less and less the case.
	Like I said, we're evolving.
	Times are changing.
	Just because it's becoming less and less the case does not mean that men still don't prefer it.
	I would say the majority have now shifted, right?
	Because majority of men, I'm sorry, the majority of men are not like, oh, I want a virgin.
	I'm sorry.
	This is just not true.
	I don't think it's true.
	If they could get it, they would still prefer if they can get it.
	It's not established through the day to day.
	They don't want someone with experience.
	What about throat go?
	You want the virgin or you want the...
	You're right.
	For a fun time?
	Awesome.
	But for wifey?
	Nah.
	Sorry.
	Like, ladies, I know that this might...
	You guys, I don't know if you guys know this or not, but you do realize that when men meet you, they put you in one of two categories.
	Fun only or commitment.
	Fun only or commitment.
	So you're trying to conflate the two and say, a lot of lawyers would date me!
	And blah, blah, blah.
	But that does not mean that they would take you seriously and get down on one knee and propose to them.
	Well, we have no way.
	First of all, I don't like men who even want to propose on one knee.
	I just don't like these kind of men.
	Well, you want monogamy, right?
	Maybe, yeah.
	So that means, would it give you monogamy?
	No.
	Yeah, they would.
	I promise you they would.
	Now, this is now unfalsifiable, right?
	So there's no point in it because you guys are going to say, yeah, it's going to be battle of anecdotes.
	I'd probably say I'm more qualified here because I know more lawyers, but okay.
	Yeah, but you're using a very, you're basically saying, oh yeah, lawyers would date me, blah, blah, blah.
	I'm just saying in general.
	They wouldn't marry me, but how do you know?
	And I don't know, and you don't know, because I haven't been proposed to, actually.
	Because men have a serious stake in a woman's background.
	Are you pressure fit?
	Can I explain something to you?
	What you have to do is you have to isolate the variable and look at people who are married and look at people who get, and you have to isolate and see that this is going to be more likely.
	So, for instance, a lot of the things you guys say increase your likelihood of divorce.
	Age gaps.
	Increase your likelihood of divorce by a lot.
	If you guys have a 10-year age gap, that increases your likelihood of divorce by 40%.
	Yeah, you guys always talk about liking younger women.
	Not being college educated.
	A woman between 25 and 32 is less likely to divorce.
	We never said don't be college educated.
	We just said it doesn't matter.
	But it does.
	Especially if you're looking at likelihood of divorce.
	And especially if you're looking at childhood outcomes.
	It doesn't matter when it comes to men being attracted.
	No one cares about a woman's degree or her background or her education.
	To be physically attracted, yes.
	But to get married to, you'd be very smart.
	Not only just to care about that because of divorce outcomes, but because your childhood success and childhood cognitive development is highly...
	You're moving the goalposts.
	All I'm simply saying is that men in general do not want...
	Some men.
	Some men.
	You want to ask the chat?
	No, your chat is like...
	This is not...
	Do you think this is a scientific, like, actual...
	It's not about that, but it's a very...
	Do you think there's a selection bias here?
	You got 20,000 men in here from different parts of the world.
	Yeah.
	You're really trying to sit here and argue with me that men don't prefer women that have lower body counts.
	Like I said, I asked every single person I know about this show, and people thought that you guys talked about vegetables.
	No men that I know have heard of this.
	Now, I have a selection.
	Hold on, hold on, bro.
	Use a little bit of common sense.
	Do you think men are actually going to be honest and tell you that they prefer a woman that isn't involved in sex work?
	I didn't say they prefer.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on.
	Do you really think that they're going to sit there and be honest and say, I prefer a woman that, you know, is not only fans, is a promiscuous, blah, blah, blah.
	You really think they're going to tell you that?
	I'm not talking about men.
	And look, like I said, a year ago, I didn't have any of this.
	I didn't even have an Instagram and they wouldn't even tell me then.
	I think like a couple of years ago, I was exactly this very nice low body count.
	I might've been too educated for your liking.
	That may have been an impediment.
	And my prefrontal cortex might've been a bit too developed because I was 26 and not like 18.
	But, at the same time, what I'm trying to say is that there are men who just don't care.
	Like, they're just...
	They're trying to fuck you.
	It's an unfalsifiable claim, so there's no point in arguing.
	I mean, you can't even concede on certain points, such as, like, men prefer women that don't have our promiscuous past.
	Some men!
	I said some men!
	No, majority.
	I don't think it's majority, and you have no evidence for that other than your anecdotes.
	You are married.
	That's not most...
	Because I'm not married.
	Like I said, isolate the things that make people more likely to get married and not.
	Body count is not one of them.
	And I don't know.
	There's been no studies on...
	No, because you're annoying.
	There we go.
	Riveting, riveting claim.
	If you can't even admit that men don't want women that are promiscuous.
	I said some men.
	Majority don't.
	And this has been across different religions, different cultures.
	Are you religious?
	I'm not, but I'm using it as an example.
	Yes, but I'm not saying it's not been, like I just said, I can give you many examples in beginning of time.
	Now, if you want to move it finally, because I've always been annoyed that you could say in the beginning of time, because that's not true.
	But if you want to say however many years ago, pick your year, and now it's changing.
	You're stepping over dollars to pick up quarters.
	You're missing the main points here.
	Men don't want hoes, period.
	Especially for long-term relationships.
	And your claim is most.
	I'm saying some.
	That's where we disagree.
	And you have no evidence for most other than your common sense and your anecdotes.
	They'd never be able to pull a study like this off and ask men this without...
	Do you think that would actually get funded?
	Do you think it would actually get funded if they said, alright guys...
	We're going to do a poll.
	Tell us if you like hosers.
	They probably would do a thing like, how much does sexual purity mean to you?
	And they would do ranking.
	They would probably do something like that.
	All I can tell you, though, is that the study we do have shows that body count doesn't affect likelihood of marriage.
	That's the only one we have.
	And it doesn't stop anything from anything.
	Incredible.
	If a man wants you, he wants you, no matter where your body count is.
	Yeah, and the stats show that.
	For sex only.
	No, for marriage.
	That's what the stats show.
	Why does it not affect your likelihood of getting married?
	That's what the stats show.
	Look it up.
	Our marriages are down, too.
	What do you mean marriages?
	So you're saying these men just want to get married, but everyone has too high of a body count?
	Because you're saying, oh, it doesn't affect your ability to get married.
	But what I'm saying is that the picture is way bigger than that.
	Marriages have been dropping off precipitously since feminism.
	And I would say it's not that aspect of feminism.
	That's where we disagree.
	That's one aspect, but women are less marriageable than they were before.
	And one in five women don't even want to get married.
	Because of feminism.
	But the vast majority still do.
	But the ones that do, that have a high body count, are just as likely.
	That's what I'm saying to get married is the ones that don't.
	The panel is not science.
	Are they going to get married to a man that they actually want, though?
	How do we...
	All I'm saying, that was...
	Okay, so now you're adding this.
	That wasn't in the study.
	So if Myron says it, maybe now it's science.
	But you guys talk about science and logic.
	There are rules to science and there are rules to logic.
	If you want to say shit to say shit, that's fine.
	But when you're talking about logic and science, then we have to talk about logic and science.
	If you're saying claims that are unfassable, well, they're just lying.
	Everyone's lying.
	The study's not ruled.
	The study's not funded.
	Okay, fine.
	Then I have nothing.
	It's not about that because you're saying, there's no data on this.
	But I'm saying, okay, well, realistically speaking, are they going to be able to run a study like that?
	That's not how people with critical thinking...
	They would say, this is misogynistic.
	They would never allow it.
	That's not how critical thinking skills work.
	So you're saying the study couldn't happen?
	So now we just go with what you think versus what I think?
	Then it just becomes battle of the anecdotes.
	I mean, you can't even agree.
	Then it's just feminine talk.
	You don't even agree on common sense that a majority of men would prefer to not be with a woman who's promiscuous.
	You can't even concede on a simple fact like that.
	Is that an axiomatic fact?
	That's an axiomatic fact?
	If I lined up 100 men from different groups, different parts of the world, different racial demographics...
	Different parts of the world, yes, yes.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	No, but in the West.
	I live in the West and I live in the United States, so I wasn't talking about Zimbabwe, but okay.
	Okay, again.
	Speaking from a holistic, worldly standpoint.
	There's a reason why I says in the beginning of time and I reference different religions and cultures.
	Obviously, I'm speaking on a worldly basis here.
	But it's not the beginning of time.
	The Vikings didn't care.
	The Asian Egyptians didn't care.
	Again, stop stepping over dollars to pick up quarters.
	The point I'm trying to bring here is that if I line up 100 men from different religions, different backgrounds, different racial, different ages, different socioeconomic status, etc.
	And I ask them, would you prefer a woman that was more promiscuous or a girl that's less promiscuous?
	Almost all of them are going to say...
	Less.
	Worldwide?
	Majority, yes.
	I would give you that.
	Yeah.
	I just, what are you mad about?
	I just said, yeah, if you're talking about worldwide, what would you like me to say, Myra?
	We can move on, because you're not making no sense now.
	I feel like I just conceded the point you wanted me to concede.
	I thought you'd be able to, you know...
	Jesus, man.
	I just said, yeah, if you look at the worldwide, the majority of men, if you lined up the majority of men...
	But that's implied.
	If I'm talking about different religions, cultures, beginning of time, etc.
	Like, clearly, I'm not just talking about the United States or the Western world.
	I'm talking about everybody.
	Well, okay, then that was my mistake.
	That was my mistake because I was thinking that we're talking about men like we're on a show in English in the Western world.
	I don't think...
	There's a bunch of clues that I was obviously referring to the entire world.
	Everyone's talking in English.
	I haven't seen any Arabic.
	I haven't seen any...
	But that doesn't change the fact that they might be from a different country.
	Okay, so we're talking about English-speaking people now?
	- Oh no, 'cause then I might change my mind. - Jesus Christ.
	- Do you think that guy would rather have you as his first or his 50th? - What?
	- Do you think that guy would rather be with you that you're his first or that guy's your 50th?
	Do I think a guy would rather be with me if I'm his first or his 50th?
	I think he would rather be with me either way.
	No.
	If you're the 50th person, he's been with you.
	For one night or forever.
	But yeah, let's move on.
	He'll be like, I don't want to be with a guy either.
	Like, I would have preferred if I was on the lower side of my mask, Baldrickown, too.
	You guys, but the guy is going to want to be with somebody that hasn't been with the whole world.
	Yeah, but I think girls think the same.
	You said it wrong.
	I think girls think the same.
	Okay, we were discussing in front of the video, your thoughts.
	So where are we at?
	I think we're...
	I have no clue.
	Okay, so now they're going into different languages.
	Oh, there we go.
	But yeah, I mean, people are going to speak English.
	They're from different cultures, whatever, because English is like...
	Do you have any demographics on your audience?
	Like, I'm just curious.
	Okay, so is it equal?
	Obviously, the United States is the most in English-speaking countries, but we have a lot of people from the Middle East We got a lot of people from Europe, all over South America.
	Okay, so if we're looking at...
	That's what I'm saying.
	It depends on the sample we're looking at.
	That was my thing.
	And if it's equal from all parts of the world, then yes, I agree with you.
	If we're to even Western, heavy Western...
	It's so different.
	Yeah, it's so different.
	Everyone here probably thinks we're literally communist.
	Because we kind of are.
	But it works.
	It works.
	I mean...
	What works?
	Like, how it is in Sweden.
	Like, I love Sweden, like, so much.
	But why are you here, then?
	Like, the experience, I need to see everything.
	That's how you get knowledge.
	You need to be, like, you need to see every part, like, even the opposite to know.
	You need to see everything.
	But it's just, like, in Sweden, they're literally, like, I got thought, I never had a man opening a door.
	Not even my freaking dad would, like, open the door for me.
	Like, no one.
	And like, a girl pays for half.
	Yeah, culture matters.
	Yeah, but like, I've never had a man pay for my date.
	They don't even bring you out on dates.
	What's more attractive?
	When men pay for dates or when it's more equal?
	To be honest, like now, because it's very exotic for me to have a man even opening a door for me, I'm like, damn.
	Go to Latin America.
	So what do they do in Sweden?
	How do they act?
	You open your own door?
	No, but I don't even know, to be honest.
	They just fuck.
	To be honest, they just fuck.
	Yeah, I need to go to Sweden.
	Wasting time in America.
	You'll be dating a person for like six months, and you have seen each other's families, everything.
	You can basically say that you love each other, but you're still kind of sleeping with others.
	And that's okay, because the hookup culture is insane.
	But at the same time, they're not gentlemen like here.
	But even the...
	Let me ask you a question.
	What do you prefer more?
	The American men here that give you more chivalry or back there in Sweden where it's equal?
	To be honest, I can't give you an answer.
	What?
	Because, like, culture-wise, like, my morals is how I've seen it there.
	What do you like better?
	Come on.
	For fun now, how it is here.
	So your boyfriend's fun?
	He's fun, but he's also an amazing person.
	So do you prefer the guy that you're with here or your ex-boyfriend's back in Sweden that was 50-50?
	No, my boyfriend here, of course.
	You like him more than the exes?
	I would never say that I like my ex more over my boyfriend.
	Some girls like their ex more than the guy that they're with a lot of times.
	Is he black or white?
	He's Cuban.
	Do you prefer the more gentleman treatment that you're getting here in America?
	To be honest, yeah.
	Because I was more masculine when I was younger.
	I was like the tomboy.
	I played all the sports.
	I only had brothers, yada yada.
	Miss Lawyer, please explain to me how she grew up in an egalitarian society where everything was equal, yet she's still here in the United States, and she wasn't programmed with any of the chivalry or whatever, and she prefers the chivalry that's enjoyed here.
	The way to explain that is, yeah, because she's getting, like, yeah, if I went to a country and men were just, like, bringing me cake every day, I'd like that, too.
	Like, what are you asking?
	No, what I'm saying is that because you're saying that, oh, yeah, like, um...
	We're evolved.
	We're different.
	We have modern conveniences, etc.
	She grew up in one of the most egalitarian societies in the United States where men and women are completely equal.
	Doesn't know about chivalry and this other stuff.
	Comes over to the United States, prefers the man that gives her chivalry.
	Wouldn't it be fair to say that it's biologically rooted in her to want a man that can provide chivalry, leadership qualities, etc.
	I think it's biologically rooted in all of us if we can get more out of someone we want it.
	Yeah.
	Would you give up?
	For instance, if he acted like them, would you like that?
	Or would you rather be with the men in Sweden?
	Disclaimer, he's Cuban, so I thought that's different.
	She's getting a more traditional man that prefers that over the egalitarian society she came from.
	I'm asking her a question.
	So if this man who opened your door, but one of the byproducts of him opening the door was that he wanted, like that example earlier, where he expects sex, otherwise he leaves.
	Otherwise, he leaves and he comes back.
	Is that worth it to you?
	If it's both extremes, I would prefer a Swedish man.
	I would.
	If it's both extremes.
	You can meet in the middle.
	You qualified the question to try to go ahead and fit your parameter.
	No.
	What it simply is is that Given all the totality of the circumstances, in Sweden versus the United States, she prefers a man from America that gives her more traditional treatment, which contradicts what you said before.
	We're evolved, etc.
	I'm saying women care about it, Les.
	What I'm saying, attraction and arousal is biologically rooted in females to look for a man that has certain qualities regardless of how they're raised.
	So what I'm trying to say is this.
	Men and women are not equal, even though you're trying to say they are, because women are hardwired for traits in a man that make the man unequal to her.
	Unequal in what way?
	Women want a man who's superior to them in every way.
	So what about, you just said looks, she's supposed to be more attractive than you, so she's not superior in looks, is she?
	Because you guys want, if you're saying like a 40-year-old man wants like a 19-year-old hot chick when he's hot and he's rich and he's successful, but she's still more attractive than him, no?
	Nice try.
	I said superior in utility.
	You said in every way.
	In every way.
	Height, income, competence, protection, provisioning, etc.
	But not physical attractiveness?
	I mean, that's subjective.
	You just said every way.
	Yeah, well, okay.
	Well, you picked one of the many things that I mentioned.
	No, no, but I don't think it's superior in every way.
	You're just selecting for different traits.
	If it's some 55-year-old man and it's an 18-year-old girl, she's giving up being with an attractive man because he has status resources and, I guess, opens doors for her.
	What does she want?
	What do you mean, what does she want?
	That girl probably wants money.
	That's why she's using him for that.
	No, but, like, also, like, it makes...
	Like, I'm not gonna lie.
	Like, as I'm saying, like, I prefer...
	How it is over there in general.
	You prefer Sweden in general?
	In general.
	But I'm just saying it makes me feel more feminine.
	Does the Cuban guy have papers?
	What do you mean?
	Like, was he born here or in Cuba?
	Yeah.
	No, he's born here.
	But the thing is, it makes me more feminine.
	And I never thought I wanted to feel more feminine.
	I was always like, oh, equal this, equal that.
	Why does it make you more feminine?
	Because he's giving me the...
	He's treating her like a traditional female, which is what she likes.
	So you like being more feminine?
	Yeah, and I never thought I did.
	Listen, it's very simple.
	Bro.
	You grew up in an egalitarian society where men and women are equal and they treat each other as such.
	Yeah.
	You come over to the United States and you get a taste of a traditional relationship where the man is a leader, he's giving you chivalry, he's treating you like a lady, you're able to be and you're feminine and you're more happy.
	That proves my fucking point that I've been trying to say the entire time.
	That proves?
	Stop.
	Men and women are not equal.
	If everything was, the reality is, men and women aren't equal, women want a man who's better than men in every regard, and they want a man who can give them chivalrous treatment regardless of their education.
	So this is Socioeconomic status, etc.
	It's just one of many...
	Yeah, but that's not like a scientific proof.
	I hope you know that.
	Saying this proves...
	I don't know how you're...
	I mean, that's pretty valid.
	You've got a woman coming from one of the most egalitarian...
	A sample size of one?
	No, no, no.
	But what I'm trying to say is that it proves my point that biological hardwiring trumps You know, evolutionary, what you're trying to say, adaptations, just because we have modern conveniences, whatever.
	Women are still attracted and aroused by what they're attracted and aroused by, regardless of time.
	No, our ability to reason as human beings does move.
	So racism is something that, racism is evolutionary.
	Attraction isn't a choice.
	What do you mean attraction?
	Neither is in-group bias, neither is kin selection, neither is group selection, yet we use the moral insight to not be racist came from our ability to think rational.
	You have your primitive brain, you have your conscious reasoning brain.
	Your conscious reasoning is there to check your primitive brain.
	You may be like, oh, I just want an acquiescence to my apehood, but a lot of men don't like that.
	A lot of men don't think, like, that's not critical thinking, in my opinion.
	That's all I'm saying, and that's not actually my opinion.
	You just called me the N-word?
	What?
	That's messed up, man.
	I use her as an example to illustrate my point.
	But that's not a proof.
	An example isn't proof.
	No, no, no.
	But regardless, women in general don't want a man who's equal to them.
	Even though you're trying to say men and women are equal, they're not.
	And I would argue women don't want a man who's equal.
	They want a man who's superior.
	And you're superior in certain ways, I would say.
	In all the most important and tangible ways.
	I don't think so.
	Competence, strength, provisioning, security.
	It's like tangible assets.
	But that's the thing.
	A lot of people like equal.
	You want to guy your height?
	You want to guy your strength level?
	Okay, brute force?
	No, brute force is the one thing because that matters less and less.
	I know you guys have some weird apocalyptic fetish.
	We're not at war with our neighboring village.
	I don't need the strongest, biggest guy.
	It doesn't matter until it matters.
	I don't know how I don't know what's going on in Miami, but in my life, I'm not at war with my neighboring village.
	No one needs to know how to use a sword.
	Like, this is just not a thing in 2023.
	I'm not hanging off a cliff.
	No one needs to save me.
	I'm going to Sephora and Trader Joe's.
	I don't know what exactly you're supposed to be protecting me from, but okay.
	If we go into war and back to uncivilized matters, you're going to want a man to be strong there for you.
	See, again, it doesn't matter until it matters, right?
	Like, that's the argument here.
	Yeah, but we're in 2023.
	It's mattering less and less, which is why gender rules are...
	Okay, it matters less and less, but you still want a guy that's stronger and bigger than you.
	I'm five feet.
	So, I mean, that's just almost default.
	But I don't care about the strongest, biggest guy.
	I'd rather have a guy that's like 5'5".
	But you still want him better than you.
	I want him stronger than me.
	You want him better than you.
	I don't want him smarter than me.
	I don't want him richer than me.
	But you don't want him smarter than you.
	You just said you want him smarter than you.
	I want him not smarter, at least as smart.
	You said intelligence.
	Yeah, intelligence.
	I'm looking for intelligence, but it doesn't have to be.
	Okay, we can move on.
	Okay, so we were at, uh, for the question of the video, how...
	It was the...
	No.
	Her, right?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	She already went.
	Okay.
	You just gave me.
	You forgot?
	I have a headache.
	No, I'm not gonna lie.
	That was a lot.
	I have a headache.
	I've never had a headache on the show.
	Holy shit, bro.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Yeah, we can hit the trash.
	What?
	What happened, Chris?
	What?
	What?
	What's funny?
	What happened, bro?
	What did we miss?
	I saw her on Twitter.
	Me?
	What's your tweet?
	Her.
	Check out my Twitter.
	Your first photo is...
	We can't show it.
	What is it?
	Check out my Twitter.
	No, don't get cancelled.
	You can't show it.
	It's all nudes.
	I mean you can.
	Alright, alright, go ahead.
	You have all nudes on your- You can't make this shit up, bro.
	No, no, no.
	Honey, you're- Your girlfriend, is she online?
	Since men are equal, let's say a guy decided to leave being a lawyer and just wanted to show his dick all over the internet.
	You think he'd be able to run up his OnlyFans and make money?
	That doesn't mean that they're not equal.
	They're not!
	That's one aspect.
	Yes, men are stronger than women.
	They're unequal in that one area, but that doesn't mean they're unequal in general, right?
	No, they're absolutely unequal in general.
	Okay, well, you didn't show me that.
	You just said that because men are stronger, and I just told you, yes, I want someone stronger than me and taller than me, but I don't need somebody that makes more money than me.
	I don't need somebody that has higher status.
	Okay, just because you don't want it doesn't mean a majority of women don't want it.
	And just because she said something doesn't prove your point either.
	You're looking at one example, one example.
	So right now, we're at one and one.
	She's just one example of the general that women want a man who's going to adhere to traditional traits.
	Some women do.
	Some women don't.
	A majority of women would prefer a man that's going to be a breadwinner, a leader, a protector, or a provider.
	Just because you don't want that doesn't mean other women don't want that.
	Yes, I understand.
	And just because I agree with you.
	That's one example.
	And so earlier when you said her one example proves a point.
	One example is one example.
	I'm just asking that we make...
	It's one example out of a general fact that women prefer a man that's a protective provider and provisioner.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But one example doesn't prove that.
	You have to prove the general.
	You can't just use one example to prove the general.
	That's not how that works.
	That's why I gotta argue about everything.
	I mean, I'm just...
	When they ask me to do something and they're asking me for stuff...
	You came ready, we know.
	All of your arguments...
	Are destroyed by your Twitter.
	So that's an ad hominem.
	My claim is a claim.
	I didn't say anything to where I told you.
	Look, I just said your Twitter destroyed everything.
	I mean, if you can't even acknowledge...
	You've not even been able to acknowledge basic facts when it comes to intersexual dynamics.
	If you can't even acknowledge that women, in general, prefer a man that's a protector, provider, and provisioner, like...
	Yeah, in general, that's true.
	That's what I'm saying.
	But what I'm trying to say, though, is that a lot of women...
	Actually exemplifies that.
	No, a lot of women, if they have a choice between, like, what you say of, like, this is masculinity, this is what you're choosing between this, I'm protecting, I'm providing, but then we're not equal and I can go fuck around and you can't.
	Or it's 50-50, especially women who have the ability to take care of themselves.
	The whole thing of me going out and fucking around, that's my specific situation.
	But I didn't...
	I know...
	See...
	I just fucking caught you.
	You like to throw in little things in there to try to substantiate your argument more.
	I'm simply saying the traits I specifically named, leader, protector, provider.
	We're not talking about Myron Gaines.
	We're talking about men in general.
	What do women want?
	I'm saying most women want that in a man.
	That's what I'm saying.
	So just because you don't, doesn't mean that a majority of women don't want it.
	I want someone who's going to be a protector and provider, and by that you mean they make more money than them and they open doors?
	That's a component.
	Okay.
	I'll say that a lot of women like men who open doors for them, yeah.
	Chivalry's nice.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yo, you just took up an hour to show.
	Yo, let's move forward, man.
	Let's move forward.
	Chris, Rumble Rants, bro.
	It's the frontal.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.
	I had to, like, uh...
	Yo, I got, like...
	I'm losing brain cells, bro.
	Holy shit.
	So am I. That local Twitter account explains why Elon Musk renamed the X. Holy!
	I'm not gonna lie.
	That was kind of wild.
	Bro.
	I was focused on her, too.
	It's like, it's like, it's like...
	You have sex on your Twitter, too?
	Maybe I put clips, yeah.
	Bro, it's a fake OnlyFans.
	Yeah, it is, but the OnlyFans is way more.
	Yo, can you imagine her going to a function with her man, and they say, oh, what does she do for a living?
	Oh, she's an ex-lawyer, but she does videos online.
	Bro.
	What's her video?
	I'll go look it up.
	Twitter.
	Oh my god, Johnny!
	This is your wife?
	And if you're out with a girl and they're like, what do you do?
	I talk shit about women 12 hours a week.
	I'm not saying no women are going to like that.
	We tell women the truth to their face.
	Let me tell you right now.
	Yeah, I understand.
	Not only that, you're missing the whole daytime show where we talk about...
	That's why I said 12 hours.
	Monday, Wednesday, Friday, three hours each, so nine hours.
	Actually, we help women become better.
	What do you do?
	Help women become worse.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	Repeating my $20 rant.
	Institute for Family Studies.
	Multiple sex partners prior to marriage.
	Reduced marital quality for women, but not men.
	No, that's not true.
	That's not true.
	Everyone look it up.
	If you know how to do that, you should look it up.
	Well, he's refuting our argument.
	Goose says, men can't show emotion when my grandpa died.
	I happened to be drunk, I guess, and broke down crying.
	My wife taught she was the boss and taught until I had to check her ass.
	Never show emotion in front of a woman.
	I think your grandma's a little bit messed up here, but he's just saying, for example, he cried when his dad died and then I think she took it as weakness.
	You already said Mike says, make the girls call their guy best friends and test their loyalty.
	Nah, we don't have time for that right now.
	Youngflam says, Mr.
	Colin, I want to say y'all changed my life.
	I'm 5'7", 220 pounds, fat soldier in Korea, during COVID, depressed, no 180, 10k a month, DOD contractor, 50k in checking accounts, love y'all, no homo.
	Shout out to you, bro, for improving.
	J10 says, save this question, minor, fresh, rate the girls strictly off looks, have both of you pick two that are worth material and one that's for the streets.
	Okay.
	I'm for the streets.
	Oh, I didn't say anything.
	I just looked at you.
	Oh, I'll take that.
	I don't want to marry you.
	Who said I want to marry you?
	Yeah, I know.
	So I'm saying we're on the same page.
	It'd be sad if one of us wasn't.
	Wait, wait, fresh.
	Who picks, though?
	Huh?
	Who picks to actually ask each other to be married?
	He's saying in general, who decides who's going to be married or not?
	Yeah, but I mean, The men that wouldn't ask me, I would decline anyway.
	The men still have to ask you, though.
	I don't want you to ask me.
	I'm for the streets.
	I know you already picked me.
	I didn't say that.
	I just said that.
	Mario, you want to do this one, bro?
	What?
	Real quick.
	Show the previous one, if you don't mind.
	It says, save this question, mind refresh, rate the girls' awful looks, and both of you pick two that are wife Ontario and one for the streets.
	That's pretty funny.
	Okay.
	Mr.
	Prez.
	FNF, 20 years old, 200k income, 140 weight, 5% body fat in the process of diversifying my income, and building an empire, and still get shit on by women because I'm 5'5".
	Modern men are shallow.
	Sorry, modern women are shallow.
	Focus on yourself.
	Okay.
	Once it says, remember Kevin Samuels died at 53 of heart-related issues, sipping Red Bull and staying up to wee hours of the morning, hurting his brain with nonsense.
	Take care of yourselves, FNFMO. Okay.
	Rest in peace.
	Houston, Atlanta, Vegas says, ladies, let's cut the crap.
	Y'all are independent and proud.
	What's your body count?
	If you don't want to say it, what's your excuse?
	None of your business doesn't count.
	They should have put theirs in that comment.
	So we can know theirs as well.
	It's probably us.
	People that I wanted to sleep with, probably I'm going to say around 10.
	I don't know how many people I slept with because I used to be a prostitute.
	She belongs to the streets.
	I mean, she's honest though.
	I like honesty.
	Why'd you stop?
	I don't want to live that life anymore.
	Why?
	It's a lot of damage, a lot of emotional damage, physical damage.
	A lot of cocks, yeah.
	A lot of cocks.
	Okay!
	What about you?
	Why'd it count?
	I don't want to answer these questions.
	What's your excuse?
	I don't know.
	It's just so much for me.
	I'm not going to answer.
	I'm 38, so I'm like a decade more than everybody here.
	So I feel like on the average of three people a year, starting at 21, I'm now 38.
	I mean, you know.
	Do the math.
	Do the math.
	Okay.
	Time's 10.
	What's the number?
	Somebody do the math.
	Do the math for us.
	Between 21 and 38, three a year, minus the three years I was married.
	Boom.
	Three years?
	Bro, that's like...
	Three years, not bad!
	It's a whole person, though.
	So you're telling me...
	If I'm dating...
	From 21?
	Minus the three years I was married.
	48.
	And the last...
	Okay.
	For the last 20 years?
	That's not a...
	Whatever.
	20 years?
	I'm 38!
	Like 48 to 50, and that doesn't include all the guys that she didn't count.
	I feel like that's an accurate No, sure.
	Okay, cool.
	We'll give it to you for now.
	Whatever.
	What about you?
	Uh, two.
	Stop the cap.
	I feel like mine is not, doesn't count.
	Mine is two also.
	It is.
	It is.
	Two hundred?
	Two.
	Stop the cap.
	Don't play with me.
	Two.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Two at the same time?
	Remember, I'm only 22 years old.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm only 22.
	Get to my age.
	There's girls that get 22 in a semester.
	I wasn't out of there in high school.
	I started late and I caught up.
	I mean, Chad's saying you're like 26.
	Who's 26?
	I'm 22 years old.
	I mean, they say you're 22.
	I was born in 2000.
	Okay.
	2000?
	What about you?
	All right.
	I don't know.
	I feel like I want to keep a few things private.
	It's my own privacy, you know?
	But I'm very proud of...
	Is it over ten?
	A little bit over, yeah.
	A little bit, yeah.
	Seven.
	100.
	You know what's the problem?
	Just to be frank with you, your Twitter, that 7 doesn't count.
	You asked me my body count, I'm just answering the question.
	They're gonna assume the worst because of that.
	Okay, I don't care what people assume.
	I've seen many girls on, you know, show, come on.
	Yo, your Twitter by far is the worst.
	I'm sorry to say.
	Like, you mean the, like, what do you mean the worst in what way?
	No clothes!
	I thought he was, like, overreacting, but I'm not going, like, that's just kind of wild.
	Yeah, I do porn.
	What did you think?
	You said your wife's material!
	No, I didn't!
	For a lawyer!
	You said you were!
	I said that a lot of lawyers and people, like, the kind of men...
	I like liberal men that you're saying are so unattractive.
	I like those kind of men.
	They don't care about the show.
	Liberal, like, what?
	Family functions.
	Yeah, because at a family function, I can, like...
	If you took you to a family function, I would be able to be in there a lot better than you.
	I get that.
	When they do research or find out who you are...
	Like, the guy, he talks about me to his family.
	He says what I do.
	They think it's cool.
	You guys don't get it.
	It's 2023.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	They haven't seen it, though.
	But, Fresh, if I was a girl, right?
	Or a family member, whatever, right?
	I saw your page.
	I pressed, wait, three buttons?
	Right?
	Three buttons!
	And you were like...
	What's your point?
	Yo, Shawny's getting dogged out in the second video, dawg.
	Yeah, you should check my OnlyFans for the whole thing.
	Nah, bro.
	So does that count as your seven or no, that's work-related?
	That counts as my seven.
	Oh, okay.
	Her doing that?
	It's actually pretty good for marketing.
	You know what you're doing.
	I do well.
	We can tell.
	What about you?
	Oh, I'd rather not share that.
	She's 30 years old.
	Is it over 10?
	No.
	No.
	Not the cap.
	No bueno.
	Así.
	Por favor.
	I'd peg it at like 20.
	Yeah.
	At bare minimum.
	What about you?
	No, I'd rather not disclose.
	Is it over 10?
	No, it's not actually.
	Stop the cap!
	I'm not lying, but I'd just rather not say that.
	Why did the person that asked the question out include theirs?
	They should have been like, oh, I have this many body counts.
	I mean, he's a dude, though.
	I mean, like, he's asking us.
	Okay, so this is...
	You guys care about body count, but then you...
	She only had seven, and clearly I'm at 40, but...
	I mean...
	But you said her Twitter, you would've...
	Oh, she's a ho.
	Here's the issue, right?
	You see what I'm saying?
	It's about perception.
	So is it body count?
	No, no.
	It's perception.
	Because, for example, I can't tell by looking at your body count.
	I mean, I can assume your age.
	But with her, if I can see visually online what's happening.
	But that's different.
	So physical body count versus perception.
	You said, oh, guys care about body count.
	But no one's walking with a posted with a body count in their forehead.
	The perception is high body count.
	No matter if I can see it or not.
	Because online, they can see visibly or...
	So perception is what matters.
	So not body count.
	Exactly, which is the point.
	Perception of body count.
	But only because there's no body count figure on your head telling me what your body count is.
	I can only assume for what I see.
	So yeah, so it's perception.
	That's what she's saying.
	She's saying it's perception of body count, not actual body count.
	But the underlying tone or the underlying foundation is the body count.
	But it's not the actual body count.
	It's the perception.
	How old are you?
	Because no one's ever really going to know.
	How old am I? 28.
	White.
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Women absolutely know that their body count is 100% to some degree tied to their value as a female and their ability to find a man.
	That's why a bunch of girls didn't want to disclose it, lowered it, or just didn't, or gave some other number.
	Or because they don't want to get roasted.
	Well, okay, but why do they get roasted?
	Because your audience is the type of...
	It's not about the audience.
	In general, women know that their body count reflects their value in the dating marketplace, which is why women keep that number close to their chest.
	No, but it's your sexuality.
	I get it.
	But here's the thing.
	Why is it private for a female?
	Why is it so important for it to be private?
	It can be private for you too.
	Look, look, look.
	Ladies, ladies, ladies.
	But it's not a question.
	Look.
	My main point I'm trying to make here is that your body count absolutely matters to a man that's going to want to take you seriously in the future.
	Does it go on the birth certificate or something?
	You're trying to say it doesn't matter?
	Yikes.
	Hold on, let her answer.
	Do you think it matters or not?
	If I'm marrying someone or if I'm gonna be with someone, I'm going in for the future, not looking.
	I don't care what you want.
	Does it matter to the man?
	Maybe, but...
	How do you verify that?
	You don't have an Instagram check.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Why is it that you didn't want to say it?
	I used to feel like it and like...
	You don't feel like it?
	Listen, I said it last year.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Why don't you feel like it?
	I don't know.
	I'll tell you why you don't feel like it.
	Because you know that if you disclose your body count, it's going to hurt your ability to potentially find a man later.
	That's why.
	Are they going to watch this?
	Who knows?
	You never know.
	Men care about this shit.
	Do you ask women this up front or no?
	Look, I've said it last time on the show.
	But why is it weird?
	That's why I'm asking you.
	It's not important to me, but it's important to you to ask.
	I'm wondering.
	It's weird because it's not pertinent information in my opinion.
	It's not pertinent to you, but it's pertinent to men.
	So why don't men ask?
	Why is it a weird thing to ask women?
	Do you know why?
	What the fuck?
	What?
	Yo, you gotta go to the bottom line.
	Why is it taboo for men to ask this and why do women not want to answer it?
	That's the question.
	Why?
	It's because women know deep down being a whore is socially unacceptable and if they reveal a number, whatever it may be, it might make them look like a whore so they'd rather just not do it.
	No, I just don't have to answer a question to some dude behind a computer asking me that.
	Why don't you want to intrude into my personal sex life?
	Why is it an intrusion?
	Because it's personal sex life.
	If it was so not issue, you would just say it.
	But because of your personal sex life, it could affect it.
	You don't want to answer it.
	Why don't you guys ask it anyway, though?
	Why don't you ask it?
	If it's so important and it's so normal and it's not a crazy weird question.
	First off, women lie about the number, 100%.
	So you don't want to put it as one part of the inquiry?
	We don't ask.
	However, your actions can tell On some level, how you were from the past or currently.
	They're missing the entire point of the question.
	It makes you uncomfortable because you know that your value is tied to your amount of partners.
	Could it make you uncomfortable?
	Because I think it's just a weird question.
	And a lot of people in real life don't ask yourself why is it a weird question?
	I think it's weird because it's not personal information.
	Why is it taboo?
	Why does it make you uncomfortable?
	Okay, I'll tell you.
	If a guy asks me that, I think he's crazy and that's what makes me uncomfortable.
	Crazy?
	Yeah, I'm like, I would not want to talk to him anymore because he obviously has different values than me.
	He cares about things I don't care about.
	That's why guys don't ask.
	Well, they should if they care.
	If you care about it, then put your values on the table in the front.
	I mentioned earlier perception.
	So by default, he's going to say, you know what?
	All right, I won't ask a question, but I'll look around and see what her life is like outside of this.
	Even if you don't want to believe her answer, it's one part of the inquiry.
	Hold on.
	And then they see Twitter, OnlyFans, they see planes.
	Well then don't you want to see if my ins...
	And then they assume, okay, high body count, shoot for the streets.
	That's not my question.
	My question is this.
	If this isn't a weird question, this is totally normal.
	Men should care about this.
	I'm not saying they have to believe the woman's answer up front.
	I'm not even saying that perception isn't more important.
	But it shouldn't be strange of you guys to ask women these questions if it's such a normal and okay thing to worry about.
	Now they may lie to you and you may not believe them.
	You just said it.
	What did I just say?
	You just said if someone asked you that question, you would cut them off.
	Yes.
	If a guy doesn't want to lose you, he wants to smash you, he's going to say, you know what?
	I want to ask!
	These guys wouldn't smash me anyway, but I don't think...
	Isn't this scarcity mindset, guys?
	Isn't this scarcity mindset?
	Most guys, if they can talk to a girl and get her in a place where they might be able to smash, they don't want to fuck it up.
	So you're saying the reason you guys don't...
	So I think that's fair to say that the reason guys don't ask is because it makes you look crazy and a lot of women don't like that.
	That's true.
	But they're going to go ahead and try to ascertain on their own what your body count is based on your behavior, the way that you act, your past, etc.
	They're going to go ahead and do their homework and figure out where you stand.
	Whether they overtly ask you or not, they're going to do their own independent investigation and figure out, okay, I want to commit to this girl, make her my girl.
	Let me make sure that she's not a fucking slut.
	Let me do the whole facts.
	Men absolutely have a stake in a woman's past.
	If these are righteous men, let's say they're both whatever, I think it's totally fine to be like, hey, I value sexual purity.
	It's important to me to know if you also value that.
	How many men have you been with?
	Who's sexual purity is more important?
	No, I'm saying the man should ask the woman this question.
	But you're saying they shouldn't because it affects their ability to get late?
	You just answered your own question.
	If it's a woman that he wants to settle down with, and it's a woman that...
	Are you for real?
	Yeah, if it's a woman that he wants to settle down with, why would he not express that this is important to him?
	He just took two hours, man.
	I mean, I'm just okay.
	I mean, I would ask you a question.
	I don't and you're saying if it's a woman he wants to settle down with you answered it what because he won't get laid But if it's a woman he wants to settle down with and it's a woman that he believes shares her values like she's a virgin, right?
	I think if a guy went on a date with you and they're like, hey, I have None of us know who she is.
	Who's she talking to?
	I don't know who said that.
	She's trying to tell me.
	I said shut up.
	You're driving me fucking crazy.
	Yeah, you don't say anything.
	I know you came here with your little notes to be a smartass, but just shut the fuck up already.
	You can leave if you're upset.
	I'm not upset.
	You just don't know when to shut up.
	You don't know when to shut up.
	I'm just answering the questions.
	You answered your own questions.
	Shut the fuck up already.
	Now what?
	Why don't you speak?
	you have anything to say sorry commercial breaks hey sorry fresh mind we have W's in the chat she said what the chat was thinking okay cool last couple of chats we can't even agree on basic concepts I've never fought with nobody on this podcast that are universally You told us in the lobby to just not disagree with them.
	No, you said that you were nervous.
	And I said, don't try to fight.
	Yes, you did.
	And then I said, you said you were nervous.
	And then I said, you said, I came here because I'm a lawyer.
	And I'm going to get on Myron's ass.
	I'm going to fight with it.
	I didn't say anything.
	You said that.
	I told Icy before I even got on the whole time.
	Okay, she was with me the whole time.
	She just said I didn't say that.
	What did you say?
	I said you were like, oh, I was like, oh.
	You said you were nervous that you've never been here.
	I said I've never been here.
	And you acted like you didn't know what it was, but you do.
	No, I did.
	I said, if you're nervous, just don't say nothing stupid so they don't get on your ass.
	She was here with me.
	Did she not say that to her?
	I don't even give a fuck.
	She was very straight up.
	You came here to argue.
	Yes, you did.
	They're with me.
	I was like, okay, I don't give a fuck there with you.
	I was there.
	Okay, they were there too.
	You're too mad.
	Yeah.
	Because you're saying, because you're saying, I literally heard you say it.
	Like, hold on.
	Did you hear what she said?
	Did you hear it?
	I said that I'm probably going to be the one that's going to argue the most.
	- No, you said that you were gonna come to argue that you're ready, that you're annoying, that you kind of bad.
	- Hold on, don't get it.
	- I can't really do it. - I'm ready to argue.
	- I'm ready to argue.
	- I'm ready to argue.
	- Yeah.
	- I won't take that from her.
	What the fuck is she gonna do?
	I'm not exaggerating nothing.
	You're a compulsive liar.
	You said that shit.
	I don't know why.
	Oh, shit.
	I don't know why.
	I said, oh, don't say nothing to you.
	You said you wanted to come here to argue.
	Let the class.
	You didn't know what the show was.
	So why were you nervous?
	You never heard about it?
	I said that I had heard of the show.
	I heard of the show.
	I said I'm probably going to be the one that's going to argue with them.
	No, you said you were going to argue with them.
	I said that you can't wait for Myron.
	I can't wait.
	She said, oh, I hope so.
	She did.
	I could say to her.
	I know.
	Why are you making it up the story?
	Yeah.
	I know.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She said right.
	No.
	She didn't say the single thing either.
	They don't lie.
	These two were not even on the same side of the couch.
	She was sitting right next to me.
	They said, do you think there's going to be any other men on?
	I said on Monday, because I watched Monday's episode, Sneeko was on.
	I said, I don't want John Zerka on because I feel like I'd be getting a lobotomy for three hours.
	But I said, I don't mind Sneeko being on.
	That's what That's what I said.
	Bro, you were talking mad shit.
	I don't know exactly word for word for you said because I stopped you.
	No, but that matters.
	That matters.
	The whole thing about Sneeko, you said Myron, that you can't wait to argue with him.
	I can't wait to argue with Myron.
	In your own words, that you wanted to fucking argue that you're a lawyer, that you can't look bad.
	I said I'm a lawyer once.
	I never said I care.
	I don't care.
	I don't listen to her.
	It's very obvious.
	I don't care.
	Even if you don't care.
	I agree.
	You guys could match her.
	I'll be on it.
	She's being honest.
	I'll be on it.
	She's lying.
	I agree with you.
	You're being very honest.
	I mean, your behavior is kind of indicative of what they're saying.
	That what?
	That I just came?
	I disagree.
	I mean, the thing is, you know, actually speak louder than words.
	I would say that your behavior throughout the podcast is adds credence to what they were saying that you're coming here to argue because you have made a bunch of bad faith arguments.
	I see what I wrote her.
	Ask her.
	I wrote her.
	This girl says she wants to fucking argue with Myron.
	I told her.
	I have fundamental disagreements with a lot of the stuff you said on this show, so I knew we would argue.
	That doesn't mean I came here to argue.
	I actually came here just to grow my OnlyFans.
	I wouldn't come here otherwise.
	That's why I came.
	I didn't come to argue, but I knew we would argue and I'm excited to argue actually That's what are you coming for?
	You just came here to sit around?
	What did you do?
	What are you talking about?
	You don't let nobody talk.
	You've been talking for two hours straight.
	What are you saying?
	You don't have shit to say.
	Bitch, I'm saying stuff right now.
	What the fuck are you saying?
	What did I get yelled at by?
	The other guy was like, oh, you should know better.
	Because I smoked the fucking tape inside the room, you stupid What the fuck?
	What are you saying?
	What does that have to do with the fucking podcast?
	I'm just saying I came here to grow my OnlyFans and I came here with bad rhetoric.
	I don't know what you came here for.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Oh my God, I count with this, bitch.
	I told Cry to not hijack the show.
	I told you girls to not hijack the show.
	You hijack the show, right?
	Okay, I will say I talk a lot.
	That's true.
	But that's not why I came here.
	I came here to grow my OnlyFans.
	For two hours, you hijack the show.
	Sorry to say it, man.
	Come on, man.
	Damn!
	Okay, well, I'll just say, based off your behaviors, I would say that I would...
	I think they might be telling the truth, honestly, because your behaviors are indicating on what they're saying that you came here to argue.
	I came here to combat your rhetoric and to grow my OnlyFans.
	I didn't even know I was going to argue with you.
	But you're not even arguing in bed.
	You're not even arguing.
	Before I even got on the podcast, I told I see everything you said.
	So what are you saying?
	I'm not lying.
	They were actually right next to me and they're saying you're lying.
	The two girls are kissing your ass?
	I don't give a fuck.
	They're not kissing my ass.
	- I don't care.
	- They are.
	- No, they're not.
	- They were disagreeing with the whole show.
	- I've been disagreeing with me too.
	- You've been disagreeing with me too, yeah.
	- Yeah.
	- She was just not married next to me.
	- Hey, listen, as Chris said, you hijacked the show.
	And that's fine, you know what I mean?
	I get it.
	You're coming on.
	You want to get some exposure.
	Make some arguments in bad faith, whatever.
	They're not in bad faith.
	Bad faith means I don't believe what?
	You argue to argue.
	I don't argue to argue.
	You're absolutely in bad faith.
	I said things that are universally accepted.
	I'm pushing back on your shit, that's all.
	Yeah, but here's the thing.
	Are you pushing back because you actually believe what you're saying?
	Are you pushing back simply to just create an argument or conflict?
	No, if you think for one second I agree with you, I don't.
	I'm being 100% honest.
	I don't agree with the things you say, and a lot of it is not based on science and logic.
	I'm talking about specific points.
	Like, for example, I was saying that men in general don't want promiscuous women.
	I don't agree.
	That's not true.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm like, okay, wow.
	I do think that it matters what the demographic we're talking about.
	All that.
	So all I'm saying is when you talk to her, I'm not arguing just to argue.
	I'm saying one example doesn't prove a broad generalization.
	You only agree when you contradict yourself.
	That's the only time you fucking agree.
	You don't say shit.
	I'm listening.
	You don't shut up.
	I'm stupid.
	I don't get enough to snap the shit out of you after this show.
	I bet you won't promise to go when we walk out.
	I won't what?
	You won't promise to go when I walk out.
	Because I'll beat the shit out of you.
	Okay, so keep talking.
	I can't do this.
	Cry, cry, cry.
	I don't care.
	This bitch is already annoying the fuck out of me.
	I have a headache.
	She's a smartass.
	You're an OnlyFans whore.
	You got the exposure.
	You are an OnlyFans whore.
	I have nothing compared to you.
	I'm not fucking on my Twitter and acting like an angel.
	I'm not acting like an angel?
	That's the only thing you can do.
	You can only slap her.
	You can't beat me in an argument.
	You're right.
	I'll beat you in a fucking fight.
	Love and peace.
	Love and peace.
	I count.
	You know what?
	Let's agree or disagree here.
	All the lawyers want to marry her, I know.
	She's wacky material.
	I know, I know.
	Let's move on.
	Sorry you're triggered.
	That was a great ramble there.
	What a shit.
	Very interesting.
	Ladies, let's cut the crap.
	Y'all are independent and proud.
	Oh no, that was from before.
	These came in after the fact, Chris?
	Ladies, have you ever finessed a man from his resources?
	Fresh, we're dabbling in the dark with Jasmine and don't be afraid to play with me during the Island on Island in Connection.
	Oh, that's from Fresh and Balls.
	No.
	Will Fresh be number eight?
	No?
	No.
	Okay.
	Okay, I have two times.
	Ladies, what ideal type of lady do you want your son to date in his 20s?
	He got his life together, her age, what's she doing for a living, education level, body count, and any other traits?
	Nah.
	We'll move on, Cam.
	That's a long-winded question, my friend.
	Wait a minute.
	Guys, when you ask questions, try to ask once so it's nice and concise that we can go around the table on.
	Wait a minute.
	An OnlyFans girl Jasmine demanding sexual monogamy from her man.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's what I was saying before.
	Let that hypocrisy sink in.
	By the way, Jasmine is from that other podcast in Cali.
	Whatever.
	Yeah.
	Check that out, too.
	No, it is whatever.
	Far more professional.
	Less spelling errors in their pre-show information, less spelling errors all over the podcast room, but sure.
	Well, you don't go right into that.
	Spelling errors how?
	Your pre-show information had a lot.
	I feel like someone should spell check it.
	Your bathroom sign says, please clean up after your, and then it had a space self with an L. That's not how you, I'm just saying.
	It's common sense, all right?
	Relax.
	No, it's, I mean, there's correct way to do things.
	You're so smart, bro.
	I am.
	Can I hit her?
	In your pre-show information, you guys write please refrain instead of please refrain.
	Okay, that's one.
	You guys say loose opportunity instead of lose opportunity.
	Your part about the bag will be searched.
	It should be searched.
	Who sent you?
	You tried so hard.
	No, I just...
	My friends were laughing about it.
	That's why we know all this.
	Because you're a lawyer?
	Yeah.
	Wait, who sent you the messages?
	Whoever sent the messages.
	The manager was talking to me the whole entire time.
	What was that?
	It was from me.
	She was recruited from me because her manager was speaking to me the whole entire time.
	Her manager?
	Yeah.
	Okay, her manager reached out to you.
	This is something I'm going to send to every single person.
	Yeah, I'm going to send their errors in it.
	Hey, you showed up though.
	What else is unprofessional?
	Go ahead.
	Well, those were the main things.
	I feel like if you're sending information out to every single person for three times a week, it should at least be spell-checked.
	That's my point.
	That's it.
	I'm not going to listen to you if it's been working for the past two years.
	I didn't mean to offend you.
	I didn't know that you wrote it.
	It doesn't matter.
	Move on.
	Anything else that's unprofessional?
	I'm writing this all down, by the way.
	No, no, no, no, that's it.
	Other than that, other than that, I feel like...
	Everything other than that has been fine, but I just feel like for people to talk about how, like, women are this and that, you guys should, like, read and use proper grammar in English.
	That's all I'm saying.
	Well, we had women writers, so that proves my point even more.
	How about the sign in the bathroom?
	I mean, shouldn't you guys have some oversight?
	Somebody tell me!
	Maybe some oversight?
	I mean, we don't...
	Me and Fresh don't deal with the recruiting.
	You don't go in the bathroom?
	That doesn't bother you?
	That's so incorrect?
	Not really.
	My ex put that there.
	I mean, I don't know, man.
	We don't deal with that stuff at all.
	We have our team deal with it, man.
	Independent women's hands, you know?
	Okay, that's fine.
	I mean, that's all...
	We believe in women.
	No, but since I've been here, everyone, like, you guys have been really nice.
	The studio is beautiful.
	I'm not denying it.
	The studio is absolutely beautiful.
	Of course.
	Everybody that greeted us was super kind, so that was the only thing.
	So no, that's it.
	You guys, other than that, you guys have been great.
	You know that young love song?
	What?
	It goes like, how does it go?
	Bitch like to argue, so send her to law school.
	That's literally you.
	What else do we got here?
	Benedict Fender says, Ladies, name three drawbacks from mandatory paternity testing or settle your feelings.
	Drawbacks from mandatory paternity testing.
	Do you think men should get mandatory paternity tests when they have a kid with a woman?
	Yeah.
	If they feel like it.
	What do you mean mandatory?
	You have a kid, you have to have your man test to see if it's his kid.
	You have to?
	What if the couple just...
	Is mandatory?
	Then no.
	Why put people through something that even the man and the woman don't want?
	Okay.
	Anybody think that men should get mandatory paternity tests?
	Yeah.
	One?
	If they're going to sign their birth certificate, they're going to get the last name, no?
	Okay.
	Anybody else think there should be mandatory paternity tests?
	Damn.
	Okay.
	I think they're just tired.
	Yeah.
	I'm not.
	Oh, no.
	We do not.
	Okay.
	Houston Landon Vegas says, ask lawyer girl about her own dating history.
	Her own actions don't stand.
	Times are changing.
	Women are lowering their standards.
	I'm not in a relationship.
	I don't believe in marriage.
	That literally is the same.
	Yeah.
	Times are changing, so I don't really believe in marriage.
	Do you...
	Would you...
	Am I allowed to speak?
	She might think.
	She might get angry.
	Well, no, it's not that.
	Just when you're talking shit, you don't shut up.
	I mean, I don't care when you talk.
	I've heard you this whole time.
	I never interrupted you, but you just don't stop.
	You just want to be an attention whore and I'm over it.
	They're asking about me, but okay.
	Okay, no, because you're talking and you're saying something about me.
	I haven't said a word.
	So she doesn't want to get married.
	What about the...
	Who here wants to get married to a man eventually?
	I do.
	Everybody?
	Tomorrow.
	Is that everybody?
	Tomorrow?
	Okay.
	I'm indifferent.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right.
	And then you said you don't want to.
	Okay.
	So two girls on the panel don't want to.
	What I've come to realize is that typically most women do want to get married unless like there's some extraordinary life circumstance that hurts their ability to do so and they kind of just cope with it, whether it's being involved in sex work or being older.
	No offense.
	You know, and it kind of like forces them out of the marriage market.
	But most girls I would say that are normal would prefer to get married to a man.
	I think for you, it might be an adaptation to your current career.
	But I didn't want to get married even three years ago before I had an OnlyFans.
	I don't think relationships have to last forever to be successful.
	That's just not my beliefs.
	I also don't think it makes this idea.
	I'm not religious.
	I'm an atheist.
	This idea of like, together till death do us part.
	I think that's weird personally, but that's my personal decision.
	I always felt that way.
	I'm not speaking for anyone else and I'm not knocking anyone who chooses to get married.
	Do you think as you get older you're going to want a life partner or no?
	I want a relationship.
	I want meaningful connections.
	We're human beings.
	But that doesn't mean it has to last forever.
	We have to sit there through sickness.
	When do you think you have the best chance to get a meaningful relationship?
	Meaningful relationships, I think, any age, but obviously...
	Because you have high requirements.
	Yeah, I think I like intelligence, and I don't think my intelligence is going to deteriorate, and I don't think theirs is, so...
	Yeah, but your looks will.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And that's the main factor for men.
	That's the main thing that gets me through the door, I think.
	But I don't think that's the thing that...
	I mean, you guys, look how annoying I am.
	Would you guys want to be with me very long?
	No.
	She wouldn't.
	Yeah, she would definitely.
	I think you're only annoying on the show, because downstairs you weren't annoying.
	No, well, no, I'm saying...
	I wasn't talking to you downstairs.
	Okay, you're saying you're annoying or whatever.
	So think about it.
	If your looks are going to fade as you get older, do you think men are going to be as likely to tolerate their annoying behavior?
	The kind of men that I like don't think I'm annoying.
	And they look for traits like this.
	We're witty.
	We like to...
	I just want to smash.
	I mean, if you guys say that, now it's an unpalsifiable claim.
	What are we arguing?
	I'm saying they don't want to smash.
	You're saying they do want to smash, and now it's just up to the metaverse.
	I would say you would have a serious long-term boyfriend if they didn't just want to fuck you.
	Yeah, and I've had serious long-term, like not like lifelong, I don't even believe in lifelong, but I'm saying that- You would have a guy now is my point.
	Do I have a guy now?
	No, I said you would have a guy right now.
	If what?
	If you were as high, if you were as attractive and as marketable as a long-term girlfriend as you claim, like I get lawyers, blah, blah, blah, and they want me, all this other stuff, you would have a guy.
	No, that's not true.
	For instance, there's plenty of things that I want to work on, like going outside more, hanging out with my friends more.
	I literally put it on my to-do list, like text back some men and sometimes I forget.
	It's just not a priority for me.
	It's like one piece of my pie.
	It's something I do want to work on because I think I don't go out a lot.
	I just don't feel like it and it's something I should push myself to do more.
	But it's not something like my life doesn't revolve around being in a relationship.
	You're 28 years old.
	Your value is only going to go down as you age.
	And your ability to find a compatible mate is going to go down alongside it, is my point.
	Men value beauty and youth.
	As you get older...
	The kind of men who value beauty and youth don't like me right now anyway.
	I'm 28 and I'm annoying.
	Facts.
	Those men are already gone.
	At least you know.
	I disagree.
	Y'all are not going to shade me for my age.
	If I wanted to be married, I just want to find a man who wants to be married back.
	Easier said than done.
	There's plenty of men who want to get married.
	You've met a bunch of men, right?
	But why have you married any of those men you met?
	I have been married.
	And I was engaged two years ago.
	At 36?
	What?
	Yes, at 36.
	So there clearly wasn't a man that you wanted.
	It didn't work out.
	Because you were...
	Because it didn't work out.
	I'm not going to go into detail, but to say that I'm never going to get a man at 38 is crazy.
	Yeah.
	You're not going to get a man that you want.
	No, Marjorie Harvey met Steve Harvey after four kids.
	You're really using Steve Harvey?
	I'm definitely using Steve Harvey.
	But you're not them, though.
	You're you.
	It might be harder or impossible.
	And you're a woman.
	Your value drops off as you get older.
	I'm sorry?
	Are we quoting the dead now?
	No, I'm just simply saying that men are attracted to youth and beauty, and as a woman gets older, her ability to find a man goes down.
	It's just simple, man.
	Like...
	You don't have the same value at 18 that you have at 38, unfortunately.
	You're not able to command the same level of man that you would have been able to command.
	But to say I'm never going to get married again is crazy.
	We never said that.
	What I'm saying is that your options of men drops off precipitously as you get older, and more than likely, the man that wants to marry you at 38 isn't the man that you want back in return.
	To be honest.
	That's not true.
	Attract the men that have options.
	Don't marry 38-year-old women, man.
	Attract it.
	They just don't.
	Yeah, with the kids.
	Men don't bust their ass, become successful, earn a bunch of money, etc.
	to go ahead and marry a woman that is older.
	This is the thing.
	You're talking about people, what you want.
	There's guys that like them older.
	There's what you want and what you actually get.
	So, of course, a man is going to, oh, I want her young and hot.
	Absolutely.
	So, of course, there's what you want and what you actually get.
	And that goes for men and women.
	So, okay, a man may want them young and whatever, with no kids and no baggage, but they're actually going to marry someone with kids and baggage and bullshit.
	So, there's that.
	If that were the case, you would have your dream man right now.
	Facts.
	But instead, you're in a relationship with a guy that you're not aroused by, you don't respect him, you don't like him like that, and you're tolerating him for financial security.
	Let's keep it a thousand.
	You're in a relationship right now with a man that you don't even like, and you're dealing with that because you don't have the same level of options in the sexual marketplace due to your age.
	When you were younger, would you have been in a similar circumstance?
	I wish I would have been in this circumstance.
	The circumstance I'm in now, younger.
	Alright, cool.
	Ha!
	Got him!
	Well, women typically want to cope.
	Their life decisions put them in a certain predicament, and then they'll go ahead and cope off of what's going on, off that predicament, off of their life decisions.
	In other words, a girl will be involved in some type of behavior or action or profession that hurts her ability to find a man.
	Oh, I don't want to get married anyway.
	Oh, I don't need a man.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	But the reality is you yearn for a man.
	You want a man that's stronger than you.
	You want a man that's stronger than you.
	You want a man that can tell you, shut up, you're stupid.
	You want a man that can be that dominant leadership role.
	You're saying, oh, I like liberal men.
	That's a lie.
	But three years ago, I said I still didn't want to get married.
	I didn't want to get married before I did sex work.
	So how is it a cope?
	It is a cult.
	But if I didn't want it before I had the thing that would have made me lower value, I still didn't want it.
	I was super high value for years ago.
	I had no Instagram, no digital footprint.
	I was, I guess, a little too educated.
	But besides that, I had a body count under 10.
	What exactly would have been my impediment to securing said man?
	I just didn't want it.
	Maybe they didn't want you.
	But why?
	Because men are the ones that give women relationships.
	You pick who fucks, men pick who they commit to.
	So why didn't they want me if I wasn't a sex worker?
	It could have been the fact that you were not an agreeable person.
	I mean, wait, so you're saying that that's my cope now, so it's not sex work?
	It's that I'm just so unagreeable?
	It's a component.
	Your cope now is a sex work, but before, the guys didn't probably want to date you or take it seriously or commit to you because you might have not been a pleasant woman to be around long term.
	Men typically don't want to be with a girl that's going to argue with them and challenge their authority all the time and try to compete with them, etc.
	I know you're saying, oh yeah, I could get with lawyers, blah, blah, blah, but it's kind of competing and men don't really give a shit about that.
	Men already got to go out to the world and compete.
	Last thing you want to do is compete with your girl.
	But the stats don't.
	That's what I'm saying.
	This idea that you guys put out that men are...
	These men don't care about your education.
	They don't care about your intelligence.
	They just want to fuck the agreeable 18-year-old CVS. I didn't say that.
	We never said that.
	Yeah.
	Now you're going to the extreme.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	So you're saying that you said men do not care about your education level.
	They don't care about your intelligence.
	They care about you being young and agreeable.
	Is that what you said?
	Men want peace.
	Yes.
	Okay, so since I was 18...
	You are not peace.
	Attractiveness comes first.
	And then after the attractiveness, all the other things can come into play.
	But men don't have a priority on IQ and intelligence and education like women have on men.
	It's maybe fifth place for us versus it's like maybe first or second or third place for you guys.
	For IQ? Men don't care about females' IQ to the same degree that women care about men's IQ. Men don't care about competence to the same level that women care about competence.
	I agree with that.
	I don't think men care about competence.
	Women don't care the same way men do.
	Next question.
	I agree with your last statement.
	Next question.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Now you're mad?
	You talk a lot, man.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	No, no, it's fine.
	I'm not mad.
	I think the girls are frustrated by you.
	Not all of them.
	Okay, Chris.
	It's fine.
	Chris took a hike.
	I'm out of here.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	There's absolutely nothing ethical about a woman posting sexual content on OF.
	There it is.
	Watching pornography on OnlyFans is more ethical than watching porn.
	Yeah, how is that false stuff?
	No, please.
	Can someone defend that point?
	If you don't have to, I'm just...
	We already did this one.
	I mean, you think pornography is ethical?
	Why wouldn't it be ethical?
	Why would OnlyFans be unethical?
	Okay.
	If it's ethical, then why aren't you still a lawyer?
	I am a lawyer.
	No, no, no.
	Why aren't you still a practicing lawyer at a firm?
	Because I quit.
	But why did you quit your job while doing OnlyFans?
	Because I was making what I would make in a year and a month.
	That's literally the reason.
	So it was 100% financial?
	100% financial.
	Okay, so let me ask you this.
	Let's say you loved your job and you stayed there, right?
	And you were still doing the OnlyFans.
	Do you think they would have let you stay?
	Probably not, no.
	Yeah, you would have lost your bar.
	Why is that?
	Yeah, but the only people I'm probably more hireable than is you two.
	Like, you guys are doing something more controversial than I am.
	No, no, no, but why is that?
	What do you mean?
	Why is that?
	Because just like you guys get canceled all the time, I don't think that's fair.
	I don't like you guys getting canceled.
	Wait a minute.
	We're not in corporate America.
	What do you mean?
	You are, or you were.
	No, I were, and I chose to leave.
	They go by ethical standards, and the standard is, if you're the OnlyFans, you're being cut.
	So for instance, that's not ethical.
	So for instance, your bar, that's character and fitness, they don't allow...
	I disclosed it to character and fitness.
	They still said I could be a lawyer because it's not moral turpitude.
	Now, a firm may have different standards.
	Just like a firm wouldn't hire either of you because you guys get online and say terrible things about women.
	Which is okay.
	And you guys are like, well, I don't want to work in corporate America.
	Same with me.
	I don't want to work in corporate America either.
	So the standard is different.
	By that metric, you guys are unethical then.
	So company ethics don't relate to What?
	So then you guys are unethical by that.
	We never argued that we're ethical.
	You are.
	I don't think it's unethical.
	Nurses, teachers, they all get fired for being on OV. Yeah, I agree that it's not corporate standard.
	But what I'm saying is that doesn't mean it's unethical.
	Corporate world does not determine what's ethical and not ethical.
	That's an appeal to an authority, a weird authority at that corporate world.
	They don't want somebody who represents their company doing that.
	That's true.
	But I don't think that means it's unethical.
	Okay, but you're the company.
	They look at you and they see the company.
	They don't want to see that for the company.
	Unethical?
	Who determines ethics?
	They would fire you.
	Who determines what ethics are?
	Who determines what ethics are?
	Why did the ABA tell me I can't be a lawyer then?
	Because you have to have good moral character.
	You have to pass character and fitness to be a lawyer.
	I pass character and fitness.
	My thing is this.
	Now we're getting into philosophy, who determines what's moral and immoral.
	It's not corporate America.
	Because by that metric, you guys are more unethical than me.
	I don't think that's who's determined.
	We're not the ones arguing that only fans is ethical.
	You made that argument earlier.
	I'm saying that yes, it is ethical because I don't know why it's not ethical.
	And your only argument is because corporate America said so?
	That's why it's unethical?
	So again, you're arguing who determines that?
	Yeah.
	The general public would argue that pornography is not ethical.
	So this is an appeal to popular belief, which is a logical fallacy.
	Just because the world doesn't think this, doesn't mean that it's unethical.
	You guys have to base your ethics on something.
	If you're just basing it on what people believe, then what you guys are doing is super unethical because most people don't agree with you guys.
	Does that mean you're wrong?
	No.
	So if we pulled the whole country, does that mean you're wrong?
	No, because you're saying you're standing for the truth even though the majority and woke America doesn't agree with you.
	It doesn't mean you're wrong.
	Getting fucked on camera...
	Versus being able to have uncomfortable conversations and tell people how the world really works, regardless of their feelings, are not the same.
	I understand that, but to corporate America...
	No, the corporate America, if that's the metric, they would much rather hire me.
	We never made the argument that we're ethical.
	No, it's an example.
	So, who determines what's ethical and not ethical?
	You're an atheist.
	No offense to you, but your ethical standard isn't even a representation of most people.
	It's not based in a book.
	No offense to you, but it's relevant what you gotta say.
	Because I don't believe in God?
	You have no moral compass.
	What do you mean I have no?
	So you're saying because I... You're automatically saying I believe in moral...
	If you guys want to go...
	They're really going to get annoyed if we get into a bait on morality and objective morality versus subject.
	I don't want to get into any of that.
	You have no grounds to stand on.
	Where are your grounds?
	I'm asking you, what are your grounds for what's ethical and what's unethical?
	That's the whole point.
	To a higher power, you have none.
	Is that where you're...
	It's off of your own judgment, which is kind of a false narrative anyway.
	I have my philosophy on what's ethical as long as you're not harming it.
	I can do all of that, but I'm asking you, where do you guys base your ethics?
	Why would it not be...
	Why for you is it unethical to do...
	Morals!
	Yeah, morals based on where?
	If we did a poll, right, for everyone in here, that kids had a family about porn, what would they say?
	No, no, be honest.
	Yes or no.
	So is what's considered ethical what most people believe?
	It's called an appeal to popular belief.
	This is a fallacy.
	Question for you.
	Yes.
	We did a poll.
	Yes or no.
	It's quite ethical.
	What would they say?
	If we did a poll 500 or whatever years ago and we said, is the earth flat, more people, does that make it true?
	True?
	Is true?
	No, no.
	Right now, this year.
	Where?
	No, here, right now.
	Here, if it's ethical.
	I actually don't know.
	Would people say it's unethical or ethical?
	I don't know.
	Probably more people just make a vote.
	To be honest, I think it's ethical.
	Raise your hand if it's ethical to be on OnlyFans?
	Yes.
	I mean, I don't know.
	I kind of agree with that.
	I think it's perceptive.
	It's unethical.
	Sorry, it's unethical because of the society that we live in.
	That doesn't mean it's wrong.
	The society can be wrong, right?
	Just like it's wrong about you guys.
	The society that we live in, which is one of the most progressive societies, most liberal societies, even in the United States, if you pulled most people, they would say, ah, yeah, pornography is kind of unethical.
	And 15 years ago, if we pulled people on gay marriage, people change.
	Even race.
	yeah black people were second let's hold their conversation no but i'm saying people's societal perceptions change and things are true or they're not true it doesn't matter how many people go back on this topic here but like just i mean you're trying to argue that pornography is ethical I would argue it's not ethical.
	Most people would agree that pornography is not ethical.
	It's not appropriate in most situations.
	Most people would not agree that pornography is ethical.
	Okay, so you're saying it's unethical because most people agree with you.
	Okay, that's not actual legit.
	In generalities, it's It's not.
	Religion, people's moral compass, people's actual preference, people's kids, people's lives, that whole...
	If you're going to say that it's a logical fallacy by popularity, then tell me why it is ethical then.
	I'm saying it's ethical because it doesn't harm anybody else.
	It's a personal autonomy decision.
	I don't think sex is back.
	There's ED. There are people that rely on that only.
	If I had a liquor store, is having a liquor store unethical?
	Because some people are alcoholics.
	If you're growing up, your parents are both alcoholics.
	It's unethical because then you're showing exposure in kids or whatever.
	If I had a donut shop, donuts are bad for you.
	Is that unethical?
	If I ran a liquor store, is that unethical?
	And there are laws.
	This is great.
	To your argument, liquor stores have to close at a certain time.
	And I have regulations on OnlyFans.
	On OnlyFans, if anyone else wants to be in my content, they have to send an ID. They have to send a consent form.
	They have to show they're over 18.
	There's regulations there too.
	We're talking about porn in general.
	I think OnlyFans is the most ethical way to consume porn.
	I just think you guys shouldn't be the one arguing that ethics should be correlated with popular beliefs.
	Because of what we do?
	No, because it's not true.
	Claims are false or true.
	It doesn't matter how many people believe them.
	Are you for real right now?
	I'm being for real.
	So you guys, a lot of people disagree with you, but you still think you're right.
	And I'm not saying the reason you're wrong is because most people disagree with you.
	That's not why you're wrong at all.
	Because that doesn't...
	What most people believe, just like most people used to believe the earth is flat and it wasn't, that didn't make it true.
	Either things are true or they're not true.
	So if you're talking about ethics, which is different than the earth is flat, right, because that's a different type of fact, then we need to be able to ground ethics.
	What makes what I do unethical?
	Is it just because people agree with you?
	Because that isn't how you make a valid claim.
	It's a combination of things.
	That's not a conclusion.
	This show is an incorrect LSAT question.
	So what makes it ethical then?
	You're saying because you're not hurting anyone, that's what makes it ethical?
	Yeah, because I'm choosing to do something with my body that isn't hurting anyone.
	Now, if some person, I guess, isn't going on a date because he's watching me jerk off, I don't think that makes what I do unethical.
	If you're saying what I'm doing- So your basis is as long as you're not hurting anyone, it's ethical.
	I think with sex, I don't correlate modesty or sexual purity with morals because I see no link to it.
	If you have a link to it, please let me know because I like this topic.
	I'd love to talk about it.
	What is it about sex and OnlyFans and porn that makes it unethical?
	I'm saying I don't see anything.
	To me, for something to be unethical, it has to harm.
	It does harm people.
	Sex is sacred.
	Just because you expose it to people doesn't mean it's right.
	Sex is sacred, why?
	Because you said so?
	Because your God said so?
	Because you guys...
	I mean, that's respecting people's religion, I guess, because people believe that sex is...
	But I'm not religious.
	Exactly, you don't have to know what to go around.
	You have no foundation to any of your claims.
	That's my foundation.
	So I'm saying, just like if you had a liquor store, and if I had a liquor store, some people are alcoholics.
	You can say, oh, that's so unethical.
	Alcohol harms people.
	So should there be no liquor stores?
	You have no soul, though.
	They believe that as long as you don't harm anybody, it's okay.
	But by that logic, that's saying anything can go.
	Because if you don't harm somebody, it doesn't mean it's right.
	Yeah, if it doesn't harm anybody, yeah, I think it's fine.
	Do you think your mom and your dad like watching you do that?
	I don't live for my mom and my dad.
	But that's still your family.
	You don't care about them?
	Of course I hear about them.
	We still have a good relationship.
	They're not happy with my decision.
	But if you want to live for your friends...
	You say you're not hurting anybody.
	You're hurting your mom and your dad.
	If someone was gay and they're hurting their parents, should they not be gay?
	If your metric is hurting your parents, you can hurt your parents.
	We can hurt our parents by just not being lawyers, doctors, and engineers.
	We're already hurting our parents.
	Do you have something that you want to say?
	If your daughter, because you're so perfect, if your daughter came up to you and said, hey, let's say she's my age, and she goes, she could choose a wonderful career path, right?
	Or she decides to do pornography, and you're like, And I'm like, hey mom, I want to do pornography.
	Are you going to think it's okay?
	I'm going to say, my only goal for having children, I don't bring children to this world to make me proud.
	All I want for my children is that they're happy.
	Okay, but I'm 18 right now.
	Yeah, if she, if pornography is how she's going to be healthy, happy, go for it.
	- Wait, will it make her happy in the future?
	- No, it makes her happy in the future. - What a girl, that's poor. - That's not true. - It's so. - And pornography is not gonna make you happy.
	A lot of women that are involved in pornography, etc.
	end up being really miserable as they get older.
	Lawyers are the unhappiest.
	They are constantly ranked as the unhappiest profession.
	A lot of jobs are like that.
	It's not for everyone.
	Not every lawyer is miserable.
	Not every pornist is miserable.
	It's not going to have the same long-standing damage and effects to your ability to find someone, your reputation, etc.
	I think those are all great points, and that's why when girls ask me should they do this, I don't tell them, yeah, go for it.
	It depends on your values, it depends if those are the kind of men you would want anyway.
	It depends on the individual, but for some people, like me, it is the right decision.
	Wait, but if it's so ethical, why does that matter?
	Because, like you said, society...
	No!
	What does that even mean?
	Society does care.
	So if you care about society, if that's something that doesn't make it unethical, just like being gay, in my opinion, I don't know what you guys think, isn't unethical.
	But if someone was like, oh, I don't know if I should come out.
	And back in the day, it was more stigmatized.
	And I was like, hey, yeah, I don't know if you should come out because there could be negative.
	It doesn't make what you're doing unethical, though.
	That's crazy that you think pornography is ethical.
	I mean, that's fine.
	But to put us in the same...
	Because you say we say terrible things about women.
	I don't think we necessarily say terrible things about women.
	We say unflattering realities and truths about women that society doesn't necessarily want to admit.
	But people know that it's true.
	On the other hand...
	A lot of people don't think it's true.
	Like, we're able to save lives from telling guys the truth about how the world really works when it comes to women.
	You're not saving lives by getting fucked on camera.
	Well, I do...
	That's the thing.
	I don't just do that.
	Like, I talk about all this.
	I have, like...
	I recommend books.
	People text me all the...
	Like, message me all the time about, like, a lot of ways I've impacted them, too.
	Just like people message you.
	What I'm trying to say...
	What I'm trying to say is that the same way that a lot of the stuff you say...
	A lot of people disagree with.
	Corporate America would have nothing to do with you more than they would want to do with me.
	That doesn't mean what you guys are doing is wrong.
	We never...
	Argued about corporate America.
	You said that because corporate America thinks I'm unethical.
	Having difficult conversations that might have some controversial takes on it because of political correctness is not the same as getting fucked on camera.
	I think getting fucked on camera is unethical because it looks bad on the firm.
	But if you actually ask all the lawyers I worked with, they were like, oh yeah, they don't have an actual moral issue.
	They're women and they're men and they're like Literally, that's what I'm saying.
	They're not going to tell you to your face.
	For instance, I was just on a podcast with two Texas attorneys who found me on the Texas attorney Facebook page and they were like, all the comments were positive.
	They're definitely talking bad about you behind your back.
	Oh, okay.
	Are they doing pornography?
	I just said, it's a decision that's good for some people, it's bad for other people.
	For me, it makes sense.
	It's ethical for people to make a personal choice.
	You said it's unethical and the example you gave was because my job would have a problem with it.
	Any job that would have a problem with me doing OnlyFans has a problem with you two as well.
	So that's obviously not a metric for what's right.
	We're not making an argument that we're ethical.
	Can we wrap this up, please?
	This is too much.
	Can we wrap this up?
	Yeah, I mean, wrap what up?
	This whole stupid conversation.
	I mean, if it's stupid, you're free to leave at any time.
	I want to, because this is just not going to end.
	Okay.
	Feel free to leave.
	All right.
	No worries.
	They'll escort you out.
	So, I think at this point, we can agree that it's not ethical, but...
	We're not agreeing, but...
	I low-key want to...
	high-key want to hear like...
	I think some things you're saying are very valid, but I also kind of want to hear more of the other girls.
	Yeah, sure.
	We can do that.
	Kill me.
	I mean, if you want to talk.
	If you don't want to.
	Don't have to.
	The comment was about me, that's why.
	I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, that definitely is not your fault.
	Every comment has been...
	I am bar certified.
	Oh my gosh.
	Okay.
	They're all about me.
	It's not bar certified.
	I can show you guys my bar kind.
	She has brain damage.
	I am not saying this to be mean.
	Something is broken in the mind.
	Any idiot can get a JD. That's first of all not true and I am bar certified.
	She literally just wants to argue.
	She saw the ability to be in front of an audience and argue.
	Please don't let her suck the show.
	So annoying.
	Nobody cares.
	Female Destiny, I promise you, nobody cares.
	Too late.
	A flying raptor goes, this paralegal chick needs to understand the average mental income in the U.S. is $38.5k to $38.5k.
	75-80% of women on this show have all said they wanted a guy who makes six figures.
	She's not in touch with reality.
	Me?
	Or someone else's paralegal?
	Because I never said any of that.
	I know that's what the average is.
	He's trolling you.
	For the lawyer girl, how many of her friends who are lawyers know she does OnlyFans, also like Destiny, just saying BS with confidence is still BS to lawyers.
	Second wives won't be in the same field as them.
	Actually, I started OnlyFans because one of the other girls in law school started one.
	So you follow people?
	Awesome.
	It did give me, I was like, okay, let me try it.
	Alright.
	That beautiful OnlyFans slash lawyer girl has never been rejected and it shows.
	She's been rejected.
	She just doesn't know it.
	Men reject covertly.
	Women reject overtly.
	And what I mean by that is men don't give you the commitment that you seek.
	I don't seek it though.
	But you're not the one that determines it.
	The man picks you.
	You don't pick the man.
	But I've...
	Okay, if we want to get into this, we can.
	I'm going to let you decide.
	Because I don't want to take away the time of everyone else.
	I mean, you have.
	So should I continue?
	Go for it.
	I mean, unless other girls have anything they want to say or whatever.
	What?
	She might have something to say.
	Yeah, she might have something to say.
	No, I just want you to shut the fuck up.
	One way to do that is maybe to contribute.
	You can't ruin the show.
	If she has something to say, that's one way to make you shut up.
	The chats are about me.
	I've told you to not hijack the show.
	No one else can talk.
	I'm giving you an opportunity.
	It's fine.
	It's fine.
	Don't worry about it.
	You took the whole show, man.
	Yo, it's Friday night.
	Come on, man.
	Other girls didn't really say shit, bro.
	What do you mean?
	I was trying.
	I was like, hey, hey, hey.
	They had no chance, man.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	Pergmia is dying, yet countless girls do the delusional calculator.
	They want the same kind of men to stop it.
	We'll turn it to the girls that want to say something.
	Puthy wetter.
	Oh, okay, I see what you did there.
	When I sleep with liberal feminist women, I'm the biggest feminist and LGTV supporter until I finish in her.
	I lean in her ear and whisper that I voted for Trump and support Tate.
	Dean for truth, the lawyer thinks herself a masturbator.
	She plays dumb while going hard, arguing that she doesn't understand.
	She knows better, but likes being a much speaker?
	She's a man-eater.
	Very coherent.
	She's a man-eater.
	Fantastic.
	Okay, so which other ladies here, if you had a point or disagreement or anything else that you guys want to discuss, feel free.
	Well, we can start here and then work our way.
	Questions, comments, last thoughts on the show?
	I just want to say if there's any females watching this or even guys watching this that are thinking about doing OnlyFans or porn, don't do it.
	Ruins your lives.
	Don't be a prostitute.
	Don't get a pimp.
	Don't sell your soul.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Shit.
	That was kind of deep.
	All right.
	I just want to say, like, I never tell nobody to shut up.
	I never have a problem with anybody.
	But I just feel like you're just being really extra and doing the most.
	And it just got to a point that I just...
	My head hurts.
	I'm sorry you feel that way.
	Your head gets better.
	Imagine doing this every night for a year and a half.
	I mean, two years fresh.
	Well...
	Like, I don't care her getting her point across, but, like, it just...
	When you guys, like, tell her the answer and she just keeps on...
	Because I disagree, so we're going back.
	Yeah, but then you end up agreeing with it after two hours.
	I didn't agree with you.
	Yes, you did.
	Go ahead.
	Wait, did she finish her point?
	Did you finish anything?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Um, I had a good time.
	Okay, so no thoughts, no nothing?
	Disagreements?
	Me too, like, everybody should do as they feel, so...
	As they feel?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Regardless of potential consequences in the future?
	I mean, that's on them.
	I'm not here to tell them what to do.
	You don't give a fuck.
	Okay.
	So just do what they feel?
	Yeah.
	What if what they do what they feel...
	Why am I to say to someone else what to do?
	I can advise, but I cannot tell them.
	Yeah, but...
	I mean, if they do what they feel, it might feel right at the moment, but it might set them up for failure later on.
	Well, that's on them.
	So, people shouldn't do what they feel, then?
	Well, that's on them.
	Like, whatever they want.
	Damn.
	Uh...
	But you don't understand.
	No, I understand, but, like, that's terrible advice.
	Do what you feel.
	Okay, what if I'm angry and I want to slap my girlfriend?
	Like, I'm gonna do what I feel!
	You know, but you can do it.
	If you can, you can.
	What?
	But that's terrible advice, though.
	You shouldn't do it.
	You shouldn't do it.
	Yeah, so people shouldn't do what they feel.
	I don't know.
	You can do it.
	You're free to do whatever you want.
	No, but people shouldn't do what they feel.
	But there's consequences to whatever you do.
	Yeah, so you shouldn't do what you feel.
	You can do it, but then accept the consequences that comes with it, no?
	But the thing is, is that you feel like doing it at some time, and you shouldn't do it.
	You should be able to control yourself.
	Exactly, yeah.
	So that's what I'm trying to say.
	That advice is terrible.
	I mean.
	Do us the will.
	The creed of the...
	These four are in cahoots.
	We're in cahoots for what?
	We're what?
	We're in cahoots for what?
	What is that?
	You guys all just agree?
	She agrees, you all agree.
	That's not true at all.
	She disagreed.
	At least we don't look miserable.
	Now I'm not even talking.
	I'm miserable.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't care.
	I feel like that's how I feel about me telling someone else what to do.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Sorry, you said something?
	You were saying something?
	That she doesn't look really happy and like, I just feel sad for you.
	She's been talking for three hours straight.
	You can have a Tylenol.
	She agrees, so it's yes.
	All of you agree.
	Oh, you want us to agree with you?
	No, I don't want you to agree with me.
	I just want you to disagree with her for once.
	I don't agree with everything she said.
	I haven't even answered this question.
	I don't know.
	Everybody can do whatever they want.
	You just want me to talk because I was going to shut the fuck up for once.
	Okay, I don't care.
	The show's over.
	I want to say my two cents.
	It's okay.
	Okay.
	Fantastic.
	To be honest, I'm literally in loss of words.
	Not like I could speak too many words during this time.
	I don't know.
	It's a very different experience.
	I don't even know what to say.
	To be honest, this was crazy.
	But yeah, I don't know.
	What about you?
	I'm sorry you're sad.
	I didn't say I was sad.
	She has a headache.
	She just has a headache.
	Sorry you have a headache.
	Okay, me?
	That was it?
	You guys want me to talk more?
	I don't want to trigger anybody.
	You could talk.
	Just don't talk the whole show.
	Just say what you meant and that's it.
	Wait, wait.
	So that's your last thoughts of the show?
	What would you...
	Subscribe to my OnlyFans?
	The whole time you've been talking.
	I disagree with a lot of the claims made here.
	I try to articulate my points.
	I'm sorry if I took up too much time.
	I would like to debate these topics even further.
	And that's what I think of the show.
	Here's the thing.
	I think it was very important to let you get your viewpoints out because...
	No offense.
	Whenever a fool shows their colors and shows their stupidity, you just let them keep doing it.
	And I think you made a lot of arguments in bad faith, in the face of objective fact, Use certain phrases and terminologies to make yourself sound like an authority in situations, even though it was strictly, it was incorrect.
	I actually, no I didn't.
	You know, you tried to say, well, I need studies and stats for, you know, things that are universally known and accepted throughout the world and throughout history, which, let's be honest, it would never be passed as a study because certain things like figuring out a woman's body count, we know women typically under report.
	So wouldn't that be me not making myself an authority?
	No, no, no.
	I'm saying within the confinement of this discussion.
	And here's the thing, too, because that's very interesting.
	You made a lot of arguments and talking points that a lot of liberal women would make to justify and rationalize certain...
	Life choices, whether it's being promiscuous, getting into sex work, saying that I don't necessarily really want to get married, blah, blah, blah, a lot of rationalizations, a lot of cope.
	And I think it was important for the audience to kind of see because you used a lot of the same talking points that leftists and liberals use to rationalize and justify their actions.
	Okay, I agree.
	I think I made some, but I think I did, made some great points.
	And I think some people would agree with me and some people, your fans would agree with you.
	At the same time, like I consider myself, consider myself liberal.
	Like, very far left.
	And she didn't agree with me.
	But, yeah, I don't agree with all the things she said.
	And to be honest, that's also one of the reasons why I wanted to come on the show.
	Because I know you guys are very opposite when it comes to left and right.
	But at the same time, you have great points sometimes.
	You're very liberal, but you're with a man that has conservative behaviors.
	Because everything doesn't need to be to the extreme.
	But I understand that's the reason for the show.
	You want to get the extreme points.
	Because that's...
	What gets used, that's what makes the argument.
	My argument is that women typically are not attracted to liberal men that think that men and women are equal and I'm going to do this and you do that.
	Women want a man who's going to be a leader and dominant.
	And even though you came from a very equal, egalitarian society, you came to the United States and you were attracted to a man that shows the traits that you didn't think you'd be attracted to, but you are.
	And that's what I'm trying to say.
	Attraction isn't a choice, even though she's trying to make that argument that it is.
	It really isn't.
	I agree with you.
	I never said attraction is a what?
	Choice?
	No, I said that.
	Oh, okay.
	I said attraction is not a choice.
	I didn't say it.
	Attraction is not a choice.
	I just said that more goes into attraction than the things you're saying.
	That's all I said.
	I talked about the fundamentals that women are attracted and aroused by, which is socioeconomic status, competence, etc.
	And you're trying to argue that women are not looking for that, which is a lie.
	No, I never said that women aren't looking for that.
	I'm sorry if that's how I came off.
	I'm not saying women aren't looking for that, but that's definitely not the only thing women are looking for.
	And there's more intragroup variation than intergroup variation.
	Different kinds of women like different things.
	Now, that doesn't mean women never look for these things.
	It doesn't even mean that women, like I told you, that study I just stated.
	Especially when options are restricted, they look for these things more.
	If they have a bunch of men that can provide for them, then they're going to look for people that are kind.
	Other things, too.
	IQ, however, intelligence was one of the necessities.
	Are options restricted for women, though?
	In 2023?
	Realistically speaking?
	Maybe for a kind of man.
	So it depends.
	If the woman wants someone to pay her rent and give her a really lavish lifestyle, then yeah.
	If that's the thing she's looking for, then yeah.
	But if a woman is just looking for to be taken care of, and that's what she's looking for, and she doesn't have this really extravagant height, she doesn't want this kind of lifestyle, then she's going to look for it.
	She wants guys that are also kind, maybe intelligent.
	I told you, intelligence was actually found in the study to be a necessity for both genders.
	Yeah.
	If that were true, then nerds and guys that are dweebs would get all the girls.
	So it's a threshold.
	No, the man has to meet certain prerequisites first to even get a chance.
	I agree with you.
	And part of the prerequisites also for men...
	But you're overlooking the difficulty of getting these prerequisites.
	And the reason for that is because you're a female and life is easy for women and you guys don't have to necessarily work to become attractive.
	I would say that people of lower socioeconomic status who don't make a lot of money also may also get married.
	It's not just that these rich, high-status men are the only ones having sex and mating.
	And if your audience thinks that that's the reason they're not doing well, I would implore them to maybe look at other factors that may be causing it.
	We never said that.
	But what I am saying is that a man's ability to attract and retain women is absolutely contingent upon socioeconomic status.
	But then how come men of low socioeconomic status still get a lot of women?
	They get women.
	They might have sex, true.
	They get married, too.
	They have children, too.
	Yeah, but do those relationships last?
	Are the women actually satisfied?
	Are they happy?
	I would argue no, because divorce rates are through the roof.
	Women initiate most of them.
	So are higher status men getting divorced less?
	I feel like Hollywood shows up.
	They are, actually, because, once again, men with money and wealth and influence, they have way more...
	That is true.
	A couple of people argue about money a lot.
	That's true, but this idea that...
	Men who are fit or taller, these things have lower...
	Divorce rates is not truth.
	We're talking about wealth.
	The whole conversation started because I said women don't want an equal.
	Even though you think men and women are equal, they're not.
	I think they are.
	And women are not attracted to equality.
	You have someone that comes from an egalitarian society telling you right to your face, yo, I like my new boyfriend in America who does not observe equality in egalitarian belief system.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	And she is a microcosm of the larger general scale that I'm saying that women don't want an equal.
	Do you want a man who's not equal to you?
	I'm just curious.
	Like...
	Incredible.
	I don't know, like equal in like different ways.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But at the same time, Right now here I've seen this side like even before back home in Sweden I was like I was the biggest hater of like men that was telling women that they wanted to have a housewife like I was like you're like the worst people to this earth like I was like I'd be happy but then now when I moved here I see the different side I would be more than happy if I get a man here that's able to provide for me so I can provide my own kids But
	also because it's literally like it's so far left.
	So like in Sweden, no man gets the amount of money and the childcare is a little bit better, but like no man can provide that much money.
	That's why you need both parents need to work.
	And I was very happy with that.
	But then here, when I see how it is here, if I have a man that could provide for me, I would die to be able to raise my own kids.
	I'm a nana.
	I don't know if y'all just heard what I heard, but all that equality and egalitarianism went out the fucking window as soon as she came here, even though she came from a society where everyone was equal, 50-50, blah, blah, blah.
	But then she gave the taste of a man being a leader, a chivalry, etc., Her being able to be a woman, to be feminine, she likes that more.
	So why don't we go backwards?
	Why are women still pushing forward?
	We don't need to be to the extreme right either.
	I'll tell you why.
	Because they buy into the bullshit that you're going ahead and peddling, saying that pornography is ethical.
	It's okay.
	Be strong and independent.
	Go and chase a career.
	But if it's wrong, they're not going to figure it out.
	You know what?
	Here's the thing.
	There's girls my age that...
	Are losing brain cells because they listen to you.
	And they're delusional because they don't have a man or a brother or a father who can be like, hey, listen, this is wrong.
	You have to pay attention, look at different perspectives.
	I think people should definitely look at different perspectives.
	It doesn't matter.
	You have to...
	Be able to look at everything and make assumptions.
	The problem is that you say one thing and then it's like la la la la la and then all these idiots, I'm sorry, but they're idiots.
	They just feed to themselves.
	So this is like Plato's allegory of the cave?
	Basically, in other words, feminism is taking over because society is freaking all over the place.
	It's the same thing.
	Because feminism is higher and masculinity is rough.
	That's why there's so much more divorces.
	No, but it's also the exact same thing if it's super far right.
	I don't like when it's so freaking extreme.
	I've seen in the past history everything when it's so extreme to both sides.
	That's the problem, to be honest.
	Let's say we're not going far right and we're not going far left.
	Let's say we meet in the middle, right?
	Because I come from a family who has independence.
	Let's say when You start a family, you know, the wife always assume, you know, you have a few sons, I believe.
	You like to make sure that your son, like, is taken care of.
	And it's better that you take care of it, correct?
	Right.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Because you are a mother, you kind of know how to teach your son, you want to make sure he's raised well.
	So that's the value of what we provide as a woman.
	You agree?
	I agree.
	Okay.
	So for a man, at that case, he's going to work hard, make sure he has his money, and so he can provide for your son or for whatever child you have, right?
	Right.
	So while you guys see that as equal, it's kind of giving our own values as together.
	So that's not far left and that's not far right, but that in general is traditional.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So with that in saying, feminism, and I'm not saying that feminism is wrong, but the extreme that it is today, which I'm sorry, but you side with it more.
	And let me finish.
	Feminism right now is that it's going so extreme that these...
	Kids don't know what they're learning anymore.
	They're having teachers that are teaching them that all these different things, whether it's gay or if it's being too girly or being able to provide themselves, is taking over.
	And they need to have a parent, they have to have a mother that's in the traditional side taking over and saying, hey, you need to make sure I have provided you this and this, and you need a father that's doing masculinity.
	To guide your son.
	Right.
	But this is the issue.
	I think feminism comes out of scarcity.
	You know, again, we're all talking about ideal.
	Our ideal man is a provider protector.
	But life happens and you don't find that or you lack that.
	So now we, as a woman, now we have to be the provider.
	We have to take care of the kids because that man...
	Just for some odd reason.
	What if he came along, but he was too nice.
	He had glasses.
	He was awkward when he spoke.
	Maybe he wasn't the most attractive guy ever, but he came along and he could have been a good boyfriend and her husband long term.
	To your point, you said he has to be physically taller than me.
	He has to be X, Y, and Z. So no.
	Yeah, naturally he does.
	Because women's expectations have went up because they make their own money and they have their own status.
	So they don't need to settle themselves with a guy that they feel that they're better than.
	That's my point.
	That's what feminism has done.
	And going back with what you were saying, the reason why is because feminism has basically lied to women over multiple decades, telling them to chase a career, make money, be sexually empowered, and there will be happiness at the end of it.
	And what we've come to realize now is that as feminism has gotten stronger, women are taking more antidepressants than ever.
	More women are reporting less happiness.
	And it's a lie.
	And the problem is this.
	Women don't realize that it's a lie until it's too late.
	So that's a post hoc, just because A precedes B doesn't mean A caused B. There's plenty of reasons.
	Especially in the black community as well.
	There's two parties involved with this, men and women.
	If men became more of what they needed to be, providers, tall, successful, well it can't become tall, that's irrelevant.
	But providers and the men that they're supposed to be, then less women will be in careers because they can depend on the men.
	So, at the same time, feminine is bad, but if there were more men that were actually men, then it would kind of lower that.
	Okay, for an example, okay, no one ever goes into a marriage saying, okay, I want to get a divorce.
	Okay, so let's say you're in a marriage, you both start off when you meet someone, you're dating, we both have jobs, whatever.
	You get to the point in marriage, and let's say your husband, whatever, loses his job.
	For some odd reason, he doesn't get a job right away, right?
	Let's say six months, a year goes by, he can't find work.
	As the woman, what are you going to do?
	If your job can cover the bills, he's down on his luck.
	Help him find a job.
	Okay, but again, that's a masculine trait, right?
	Now I'm making more money than him.
	I'm coming home.
	I'm tired.
	I'm exhausted.
	Now I'm catching a fight.
	I'm having an attitude.
	Sorry, sorry.
	You see what I'm saying?
	And it's like, it's out of survival.
	This is why men and women aren't equal.
	When a woman is in a leadership role and she's providing for a man, she starts being bitchy, annoying, the worst.
	Women are terrible people when they're in a leadership role.
	So what does a woman do if she's in that situation?
	Pick better men that aren't bums.
	So what if you didn't start off as a bum?
	Here's the thing.
	A man that's a go-getter, a man that's a winner, literally the worst that could happen to him, he's going to find a way to make it happen.
	Winners find a way.
	Losers find an excuse.
	But how do you...
	That's so easy to say.
	If I met you, you're going to put your first...
	You're going to tell me what boat you have, the car you drive, your business.
	And then as soon as you start dating someone, that's when shit hits the fan.
	You find out all their skeletons.
	They really don't have the money that they say they have.
	They just lose their...
	You know how many people I've been on dates with and in the first 30 days something happened to their job?
	You're like, what the fuck?
	Hey, let me ask you a question.
	If I go out with a girl for eight months and she doesn't give me sex and I'm just giving her money and hanging out with her, she doesn't give me sex.
	Whose fault is it that I'm not getting sex?
	Whose fault?
	Yeah.
	Your own that you're tolerating that.
	Fantastic.
	It's also your fault for not knowing that that guy was a fucking loser despite the boats and the cars and everything else.
	Just like it's his fault for getting strung along for eight months and not getting sex because that's what he really wants.
	It's your fault for not figuring out that guy was a loser from the beginning.
	Oh, I definitely know that.
	That's what I just said.
	But my thing is, it's like, you pick and choose your battles.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Like, again, for example, like that question that you guys asked.
	You just skirted accountability 1,000% just now.
	Yeah, because you asked me if it's my fault.
	I know this guy's a loser.
	He knows that I'm out of his league.
	And we both agreed that this is going to be a mutual beneficial agreement.
	He wanted something that he couldn't have.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	You're missing the entire point because you were saying, oh, what if you go with a guy, he has a car, his boat, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And then I find out later on that he's a broke or whatever.
	I'm saying, I use the analogy, if the guy goes out with you for eight months thinking that he's going to get laid and he doesn't get laid, whose fault is it?
	Is it his fault for being duped or is it your fault for not giving the sex?
	No, it's his fault for being duped because he's an idiot and he doesn't realize that you don't really like him.
	Same exact situation, the functional equivalent, right?
	Switch it up.
	The woman that can't detect that the guy's a loser from the first place in the face of cars, boats, etc., the facade they can't see besides the smoke and mirrors, is the same thing as the guy that can't get laid for eight months.
	They're both retarded and not being able to understand the opposite gender's goals.
	That's what I'm trying to say.
	See how she disagrees when the accountability is back on females?
	No.
	I'm trying to tell you...
	You agreed with me earlier.
	You do realize that, right?
	When you're dating, and everybody's putting their best foot forward, how are you going to know someone's going to be a bum a year into the relationship?
	You don't.
	Until you find out, oh my god, this person is a bum, and yet now we have a child, now we're married, and now I have to be the feminist and take over and take care of the household.
	That's your fault for picking the wrong guy.
	The accountability is on you for picking the wrong guy.
	I'll take that.
	Okay.
	That's my point.
	Just like he's an idiot for waiting eight months.
	Yeah.
	You're an idiot for picking the wrong guy and having a kid with that retard.
	At least we understand now, right?
	Women need to take accountability for their fuck-ups in relationships as well.
	If you marry a bum and you have a kid with a bum and you end up paying the bills and everything else, you fucked up.
	So a man can't fall down on his luck?
	So no real man can fall down on his luck and not be a provider?
	It can happen, but we're just saying if you pick correctly, it's going to be less of a thing.
	And it's going to be temporary.
	Any guy that's a go-getter, that's ambitious, that's that fucking guy, right?
	He's going to make sure that he's jobless for a small period of time to get back on it.
	Okay, so if he had something traumatic, like his parent died, a death, something that's traumatic happened to his life that he's no longer that protector, provider, he's not that dude anymore.
	Oh fucking well.
	Men are not ruled by their emotions like women.
	Men must do what's required regardless of how they feel.
	You know how many men blame their lives?
	Oh, my mom left me and now I'm fucked up.
	You picked an emotional man and that's your fault.
	It's tough out here.
	Yeah, man.
	You picked an emotional man and that wasn't the way.
	This is why I tell women all the time, don't pick some emotional guy that's going to be changing his mood all the time and shit.
	You need a guy that's going to be a rock regardless of what goes down.
	Solid.
	This is why men and women aren't equal because when women are in a leadership role or they're the ones providing or protecting or any of that shit, they immediately get angry and say, fuck this shit.
	I'm in my masculine.
	I don't want to do this.
	So, anyway.
	Did you finish your point, sweetie?
	No.
	Go ahead, Ms.
	Venezuela.
	Last thoughts, disagreements, or anything else like that?
	I had fun, and I don't know.
	Just be and let people be.
	That's what I... Be what?
	See, this quote, this type of like...
	I want to say rhetoric is from this guy, Aleister Crowley.
	And it's bad because this sets the premise that like, do what you will and do whatever you want.
	And this is bad because once again, if you do whatever you want, people will inevitably get hurt.
	I'm trying to be the best version I can of myself, but I can speak for me.
	I don't like everybody do with themselves whatever they want.
	Yeah.
	And whatever they feel like.
	But I, you know, I can't speak on my behalf.
	I just try to be the best version of myself.
	I can't.
	Understandable.
	No other points?
	That was it?
	In general, I'll keep it short and simple.
	I'm not angry at anybody.
	I'm just kind of, like, disappointed.
	Just in general.
	Because I was just kind of, like, just in shock that We all think we all think alike, but in reality, we're completely different.
	And I didn't realize that our society, this generation is...
	It's a mess.
	It's a mess.
	And I'm really hoping that, like, especially with...
	I understand woman empowerment and men empowerment, but I really hope that both can teach one another to...

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