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July 6, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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"Redpill" Girl EXPOSED As Grifter & Walks Off+Ratchet Black Hoe Kicked Off...
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Guys, welcome to the Frustrated Podcast.
After our edition, we're joined with some lovely ladies.
Let's get into it.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Nobody cares, bro.
Bro, get out.
Get out.
F*** out.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
I know the night is what I would see.
I must believe in something, so I'll make myself believe it.
It's like a movie.
And I will never tell a story.
If you get for me, then I will never tell a story.
What?
What?
We are live.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast after our edition.
Quick announcement before we get into the show.
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We've been doing some interviews that are a bit more controversial.
We had Tommy Robinson on.
We talked about a bunch of things that probably wouldn't fly on YouTube, man.
So if you want uncensored full interviews, go ahead and check us out on rumble.com slash freshfit.
We've got Nick Funtis coming on on Friday.
So that's definitely going to be rumble primarily.
So...
Bless you, Martin.
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it seems like a certain twin group has decided to react to one of the clips so we'll probably react to that here probably guys for y'all I'm thinking maybe maybe this week or next week I don't know we'll see yeah and then also we got another YouTube channel guys called more fresh of a clip so go ahead and subscribe to that one as well we want to get that one to 100k and get the main one to a million and then isn't it funny in that video the whole comment section was on our side pretty much hilarious yeah Yeah, I lost a lot of respect for them after that, but that's fine.
We'll go ahead and actually, instead of attacking the individual, we'll go ahead and attack the arguments.
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So see you guys there.
Peace.
What do you mean peace, man?
Peace out for my segment.
Peace out for my segment.
Alright, well, go ahead guys, check me out on FedReacts.
You guys know I do criminal breakdowns on there.
I'll be covering the YNWMLE case.
I'll probably drop the new MEC documentary for you guys.
I'm debating whether I'm going to drop it in full for you guys or do my reaction because the documentary is very complex.
It's an hour and a half long, but we go into how a certain state that won't be named on YouTube...
Stored a nuclear bomb from the United States and was involved in JFK assassination.
Very high IQ shit.
So make sure to tune in tomorrow.
I'm going to drop one of the two for y'all.
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I'm sure they do.
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Don't bring anyone, no entourages, no nothing.
Shout out to the girls for coming to the panel, and let's have a great show.
Hopefully no Frank Castles.
I don't know.
Let's get it.
All right, cool.
Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course.
Your body count.
And we'll start right here.
Already.
What up, y'all?
I'm Heady Betty.
I'm 26.
I'm a rapper.
My body counts none of your motherfucking business.
Period.
Why don't you tell me yours first?
Okay, rapper.
What do you do for other than rapping?
I manage bars and restaurants.
Okay.
Dating status?
Single as fuck.
We can tell.
High level of education.
High level.
Bachelor's degree, baby.
Full scholarship.
International development.
Nice.
I'm cultured.
We can see that for sure.
You wrap.
All right.
Stop it.
Are you fresh?
Are you talking to Axel?
I hear it, bro.
For the chat, can you spread a bar verse or something?
Spread it, baby.
Go ahead.
I got this whore, right?
About 5'9".
He's got the smooth dick.
He got the pork grind.
Cock made for porn.
I had some foresight to peddle his foreskin all over a porn site.
He ain't like the shit, but it ain't his business.
I'm a businesswoman bringing dollar bills in.
I'm gonna be killing him, but I'll be feeling him.
Could I help it if a bit off the top goes missing?
Nasty bitch, he only fucked me on my period.
He even gave me neck.
He said he loved the red interior.
He started tearing up and I said, why the fuck so serious?
Got baptized by the pussy.
Had a spiritual experience.
Oh my god.
What are you doing?
The fact that he had the mask on.
That was different.
Let me go through this one more time.
It's Heidi.
Heidi, you said?
Heidi.
And then you're 26.
Where are you originally from?
North Carolina.
What part?
Bumfuck.
What's the name of the town?
Rutherford Tid.
Oh, okay.
Real bumfuck.
And then you said you're a rapper and you're a manager of a restaurant, and then you said you have a best degree in international development.
Where'd you get it from?
University of Vermont.
Okay.
Full ride, baby.
Okay.
Yeah, that's out there in the middle of nowhere, too.
Alright, what about you?
My name is Hazel.
Hi, y'all!
Hazel, how old are you?
I'm 19.
Okay, where are you from?
Panama City.
Okay.
I'm a high school graduate.
Alright.
And what do you do for work?
Help my girlfriend with her business.
You work for your friend?
What's her business?
She dropships.
Okay.
So she runs a dropship business and you help her with that?
Yes.
Okay.
And then you said you graduated high school.
And what's your relationship status?
Taken.
Okay.
How long have you been together?
Two years.
Congratulations.
Love that.
How did y'all meet in high school?
TikTok.
Okay, I guess.
Nowadays, you never know, man.
What about you?
So, my name is Renata.
I'm from Brazil.
I'm 33.
What part of Brazil are you from?
Fortaleza.
What's up?
Fortaleza.
It's not for Brazil.
And I'm fashion designer and personal style.
And I have degree and master degree in Milano.
Hold on one sec.
What do you do for?
Fashion design.
Okay.
Fashion design?
Yes.
Okay.
And then you said you have a master degree in what?
Fashion buyer.
I did in Milano days.
Okay.
And did you get your master's here or in Brazil?
So my degree I got in Brazil and my Master's I got in Milano, Italy.
Oh, okay.
So you have a Master's from Italy and then you have your Bachelor's from Brazil.
And it's in fashion design, you said?
Yes.
Okay.
And then what's your relationship status?
Single.
Okay, cool.
What about you?
My name is Michelle.
I'm 21 years old.
I'm currently a waitress and highest education.
Where are you originally from?
Utah.
Okay.
What part of Utah?
Salt Lake City.
Okay.
And then my highest education level completed is high school.
Alright.
Relationship status?
Single.
About to be taken.
What about you?
My name is Bella B. I'm 20.
I'm a beauty specialist and my highest education level completed is aesthetic school.
Where are you originally from?
Ohio.
Okay.
And you said aesthetics and then high school and then single or what's your relationship with that?
I'm single.
All right.
What about you?
My name is Anna.
Maco.
Okay.
How old are you?
32.
Okay.
Where are you from?
From Los Angeles.
Okay.
What do you do for?
I have a marketing company called Brandmeyer Marketing.
All right.
What do you market specifically?
We work with everyone, but we're a full service agency.
So we do everything from like digital assistants to SAS programming, high level web design, social media, SEO, all of it.
Okay.
All right.
So if people want to get their name out there, etc., they'll go to you and you'll basically run them.
Oh, yeah.
We copied the clips and everything.
Everything you guys are doing, running the short ends of the clips and getting the clickbait and everything, we do that, too.
Okay.
And what's your highest education level?
A bachelor's.
Okay.
And what?
Business development.
Okay.
Where'd you get it from?
Maryville University.
Where's that at?
In St.
Louis.
Okay.
Okay.
Is that where you're like originally from or you just went to college there?
I'm originally born and raised in Los Angeles.
Do you live in Miami now?
I just moved here last week.
Okay.
Good move.
Also, AKA Grandma Monkey Lips from Blackpill.
Hi!
I'm all nose.
I don't know.
Okay.
Blackpill?
Yeah.
What are those?
I'm surprised that she even knows what that is.
All right.
And what's your relationship status?
I...
She belongs to the screen.
That was hard.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what that is.
I'm leaving a relationship.
You're leaving a relationship?
Yeah.
Alright, so you're with him, but you're about to break up with him.
Yeah.
No, well, we kind of already broke up, so.
Okay.
Nearly single!
You're going to turn into Blackville?
That's messed up, man.
No, no, no.
Okay.
How long were we out together before you cut it off?
Like, a couple years.
Damn.
Oh, why does he move to Miami?
No, it makes sense.
Yeah.
I moved out here for work.
I didn't move out here for the guy.
I hoped it worked, but it didn't.
Is he still in L.A.? Yeah.
Okay.
She's moved out here to get away from the guy.
Yeah.
All right.
What about you?
Hey, guys.
My name is Evelyn.
Born and raised in Miami.
20 years old.
I'm a Lash Tech.
Highest educational level is high school and relationship status married.
Oh, you're married?
Nice.
Wait, hold on.
You said you're from Miami?
Yeah.
Okay, cool.
And then you're a Lash Tech and then you're...
How long have you been married?
A month.
Oh wow, new?
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Congratulations!
How'd you guys meet?
Through someone I knew.
Okay.
Wait, how long have you been dating?
A year.
Stupid!
Is he a religious guy?
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
And what's your highest education level?
Complete high school?
Yeah, high school.
Or did you get your esthetician license to be at LashTech?
No, I just went and got a course and got a certification.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
What about you?
Hey, y'all!
My name is Kurnice.
Kurnice, you said?
Kurnice, like Denise, but Ker.
Yeah, Kurnice.
Okay.
How old are you?
I'm 26 years old.
All right, cool.
Where are you from?
I'm from Miami-Dade County, but originally raised in Bronson, Florida.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I don't do nothing for work.
I am a silent investor, manager for the family and whoever else needs me to be there.
Okay, so you're unemployed?
I'm an entrepreneur.
Okay, you know what?
Self-employed.
Okay, so self-employed.
What do you do specifically?
I manage.
Manage what?
Manage people in the market.
I produce.
I... I do whatever you want.
I do whatever you want me to do, to be honest with you.
I'm just...
You're an entrepreneur.
Yes.
Can you spell it?
No, I can't.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
I'm not about to make myself look like a fool trying to throw that out.
You gotta be fucked up.
You gotta be like, that's stupid.
It's been a long time.
I didn't even do the spelling bee, brother.
So you said you're an entrepreneur.
You manage people.
Right.
So I manage my family, my friends, pretty much, and I promote them and I market for them.
I'm a single, well, I'm not single anymore.
I'm engaged.
Aww.
Thank you.
So just pretty much a stay-at-home mom who is an entrepreneur.
So you have a child, you stay at home, and you manage people.
Okay.
I'm assuming your fiancé is the breadwinner?
I mean, why wouldn't he be Well, I saw him.
He is.
I stay at home.
That's my job.
Well, you also said you're an entrepreneur, so I don't know who the breadwinner is.
If you're an entrepreneur, then I don't know how much he makes versus how much you make.
You're claiming you make money.
I mean, that's really not your business, but we make money.
Look, let me set some parameters here.
Okay.
I don't know how you speak with your fiancé or whatever, but you're not going to...
He's the breadwinner.
That's cool.
Just answer the questions directly.
He's the breadwinner.
Okay, fantastic.
We're not going to play this stupid game on the show.
You understand?
I understand that you want to maybe try to purport yourself to be a character or whatever, but this isn't the fresh and fun show.
If you continue the bullshit, I will kick you off.
Answer the questions directly, succinctly, coherently, make sense when you speak, and don't make a client of yourself.
Okay.
Understood.
I didn't think I was, but okay.
No, you are.
Okay.
Answer the question.
He is the breadwinner.
Cool.
So you're the stay-at-home mom?
Stay-at-home mom entrepreneur.
Okay, and what does he do?
Do I have to answer that?
I mean, you can say the industry.
It's cool.
You don't have to say specifically.
I mean, he's just retired.
I mean, we just...
He's retired and owns property.
You're chilling right now.
No, he just owns property.
All right, so he's a real estate investor.
Mm-hmm.
Bruv.
Okay.
Oh, God, man.
I mean, I didn't want to put my man's business out there.
I'm sorry.
I mean, bro, it's not that.
I'm a real estate investor, too.
Like, it's not.
It's not, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's not.
Market science.
Man.
Okay.
Okay.
If anything, you're picking up your guy by saying that, you know.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
So, it's like, dude.
All right.
What a great start to the show.
Yeah, holy shit.
In any case, chat for the questions.
You had the questions, right?
Yes, I did.
Ladies on the panel...
Give me your opinion here.
I just want to know your take on this because I think it's very good that we have a primer here because I think for dating, men have an expectation.
Women do too as well.
But I want to know from you guys.
How long should a guy wait for sex?
And we'll start right here.
Until I motherfucking say so.
I don't fuck on the first date.
I mean...
I couldn't tell from that song earlier.
Well, you know, it's a persona.
It's a character.
It's a stage name.
And then what's the longest you made a guy wait for sex?
Forever.
So you never give it to him?
It's the longest?
Many times.
Many times.
He's not gotten it.
And why is that?
Because the pussy chooses.
I mean, she chooses.
I don't.
What?
Break that down real quick.
I don't...
You know, your pussy gets wet for who your pussy gets wet for.
But is it because he didn't do well on the date or like he turned you off?
Me and my therapist been trying to figure it out for a minute, you know?
I've been in there for a year, so catch me next year.
I might have some more answers for you.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that women get turned on by what they hear and men get turned on by what they see?
I think women get turned on by what they feel.
Intuitively.
Men talk a lot of shit.
Yeah, but the feelings are derived from what they hear, correct?
I mean, words are words.
There's meaning underneath them.
Which directly influence how you feel, correct?
I'd say that takes into account body language, eye contact.
Yes, a lot of communication can be covert and not be spoken, but wouldn't it be fair to say that?
There's an old saying, women fall in love with what they hear, men fall in love with what they say, with what they see.
That's why men lie and women wear makeup.
So would you say that it's fair that women fall in love with what they hear?
I personally think that's an oversimplification.
I think people are individuals and people fall in love with, you know.
But generally speaking, generally speaking, not just you.
Sure, yeah.
Yeah, because I mean, you said that the pussy chooses, but I would argue it's the female mind that chooses and then the vagina reacts to what it interprets from what the man is saying.
I don't mean the pussy just as a physical attribute.
I mean the pussy as a vibe.
Okay, the vibe.
The famous vibe.
Yes, it's very big.
You know the vibe.
The vibe.
Well, actually, I would argue most men don't.
You think so?
Yes, most men don't understand when women say the vibe.
It's a very crude way to explain how I feel at a given time based on what the man is telling me, what I'm experiencing, the situation that we're currently in.
It's a very ambiguous term that women use to describe the atmosphere.
Well, I'd say the vibe is frequently changing, so it makes sense it could be confusing.
No, I'm talking about, like, a lot of men are not familiar with the ambiguous term that women use, the vibe, but it encompasses many different things.
What do you think it means?
I just described it.
Which would be...
I literally just described it.
Could you run it back for me one more time, a little synopsis?
Wow, this is...
It encompasses many different things.
Yeah, this is crazy.
Wow.
Language, body language.
This is going to be a long show, man.
I literally just described it, but it's fine.
So to go back to the question, you say it's until I say so.
Okay.
And you said the longest you made a guy wait is forever?
Yep.
Does that imply that you guys never had sex before?
And that he's still waiting, yeah.
Okay.
And then what's the shortest you made a guy wait?
Or was that the next follow-up question?
It was going to be, but...
Okay, no, no, no.
That's fine.
Do you want to go around once and then...
Okay, all right.
So she said forever.
Okay, so how long should a guy wait?
Until I'm ready.
Okay, and how long did you make a guy wait?
Five years.
Okay, okay.
Why did you make him wait?
Because obviously there's a reason why he made him wait five years, but he stayed that long.
So why five years?
Because I wasn't ready yet.
Mentally?
Physically?
I'm just curious.
Why was that?
What do you mean?
Because I guarantee you some guys didn't have to wait five years.
Guarantee you five years.
No, no.
Not every guy had to wait five years, though.
Then they leave.
So you had sex with one guy?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
So you're a lesbian?
No, I'm bisexual.
I just pick and choose.
Okay, that's different.
Alright, wait, okay, so for you, just real quick, what was the, because you said forever, okay, that guy lost.
What's the longest you made a guy wait where you actually completed the deed?
Two years, probably.
Two years?
Okay.
Two years.
Two years?
Okay, and then you said five years.
Yes.
Is that the man that you're currently with?
No.
So the guy that you're currently with hasn't had sex with you yet?
She's with a girl.
I'm with a girl.
Oh, you're with a girl?
Yes.
And you're engaged to her.
I'm not engaged.
No, sorry.
That's me.
Oh, okay.
But you guys have been together for two years.
Yes.
I'm confused.
Okay.
So she's with a girl now.
Yeah.
And you identify as bisexual.
Mm-hmm.
But you've only had sex with one guy.
Mm-hmm.
And then one guy, you made him wait for five years.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What about you?
I got thrown off because when she said relationship, automatically assumed the guy.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So, I don't...
What's the longest you made a guy wait?
Okay.
Don't wait a lot of time, like, four years, okay?
W Brazil in the chat.
W Brazil in the chat, man.
They don't play games, man.
You know, like, okay, three, four days, I see I like the guy, I like intimate with the guy.
Okay, let's, you know, enjoy it.
It's like that, you know?
Don't...
It's there.
So the longest you made them wait is how long?
You know, like three, four dates.
Three, four dates?
Yeah.
How long were those, like, what was the span?
What is that?
Like, how long was that span?
Unless you went on three dates and three days in a row.
No, no, no.
Like, okay, one day, one weekend, next weekend, next week, like three weeks.
Three weeks.
Like one month, you know, if you do that.
So the longest you made them wait is one month.
Yeah, one month.
What about you?
I make them wait like a month or two.
It's the longest.
Oh, like a year, year and a half?
One year?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
My longest was six months.
You made a guy meet six months?
Okay.
Hold on.
Why?
I was younger.
It was like my first boyfriend.
Okay.
You want to ask them why they made them wait?
Yeah.
Okay.
Why for you?
I don't know.
Why one year?
I just didn't want to.
There must be a reason why.
I was, like, a little younger.
I think I was just a little more awkward.
I was just like, I don't want to...
Okay, so age, I guess, younger.
Okay.
Like 18.
Was it really that you were younger or that he just wasn't that attractive in the first place?
He needed more time for him to build attraction with you because you were just so not attracted to him at the time.
No, I thought he was cute for a while because, like, I've known him since I was, like, 13.
Okay, so would it be fair to say that your familiarity made you lose attraction to him a little bit while you made him wait?
No, because I did it when I was like, I don't know.
Because it was also kind of just like an in the moment thing.
Like I didn't plan or expect to.
Was he like the good guy friend that didn't get noticed type thing?
Like, you know, like in the chick flicks?
No.
I'm like, why do I feel like you're a virgin and you gave it to him?
No, no, no, not that either.
But I probably had like my first few bodies.
Oh, so you're still...
So he was just a nice guy.
It's really what it came down to.
It's just that I knew him, so it's just like...
Intimacy was different, you know?
I've known him for years.
You knew him too long, so he was not there.
It's exactly what I said.
Familiarity made her lose the option.
The other guys, you smash...
Way sooner.
This segment does teach a lot, though.
I hope the audience is paying attention here.
Did you want to ask her why you made him wait three to four months?
No, because she did it pretty quickly.
That's kind of like...
Why'd you make him wait?
You want to know why, right?
Why you made him wait five years?
She said she wasn't ready.
Okay, and then for you, why'd you make him wait two years?
I wasn't that attracted to him at first, but he was really nice.
He was a good guy.
That's pity pussy.
Pity!
Would it be fair to say that he treated you really well compared to other guys?
I mean, I think I let guys, like, kind of show who they are.
So, I think some guys, like, put on a big front at first, and he didn't really do that.
He seemed more genuine.
So, you've been able to wait two years for being genuine.
Pretty much.
Sorry.
What the f***?
Bad boys!
Well, I mean, you know, like, what would you do?
Like, if you were trying to get with some girl and you didn't really care about her, you probably wouldn't make her wait, right?
I mean, no.
Right?
And if you, like, really wanted to get to know somebody, like...
Well, that implies that the genders are equal.
We're not.
That's your opinion.
That's a fact.
According to you.
I mean...
Do you think men and women are equal?
I think they're different.
So, therefore, they're not equal.
Depends on what your standard is.
How are you measuring it?
Equal by what standard?
If you're different by definition, you're not equal.
I mean, I don't know.
What do you know?
Under the law?
What do you know, ma'am?
What do you know?
Stop it.
I mean, men and women are very different from a cognitive standpoint, from a physiologically standpoint, so therefore we're not, we're extremely different.
So I would say, because you basically phrased it, you phrased me in an egalitarian question, like, well, what if the roles were flipped?
Like, would you make a girl weight?
And I'm like, well, that situation wouldn't really come up because men aren't in the driver's seat when it comes to dating, like women are.
I mean, just like on a human-to-human level, like, if you want to get to know somebody before you start a sexual relationship with them, you make them wait.
You don't just jump into bed with them right off the bat.
95% of men would never make a woman wait.
Realistically speaking.
Think about it.
It's women that are the ones that control sex, not men, typically.
Is that why you said they drive it?
Yes.
Women controls who have sex, so, I mean, that's...
I see what you're trying to say.
Oh, what if the shoe's on the other foot?
It doesn't really apply here because men and women are not the same when it comes to sex and relationships.
I gotta give it to him.
I mean, I agree with that.
I think culturally, too, it has a lot to deal with it, but I think we're also just people like individuals trying to have genuine connections with each other.
Yeah, but individuals are way more alike than people want to admit.
Individuals are way more alike than people want to admit?
Yes.
So men and equal are way more alike than people want to admit, like maybe you?
Absolutely.
Men are far more similar.
Okay, so you just agreed with me.
No, no, no, no.
Because you said people are individuals and you're trying to say that people are different.
And what I'm arguing is that people are very similar.
It's just that they might not be as honest about it.
Yes, so you're saying people are very similar.
So men and women are pretty similar.
No, no, no.
As in men are very similar to other men and women are very similar to other women.
Okay.
Now you're making the distinction.
But that's what he meant.
I mean it was implied because we were talking about the gender differences in the conversation from the first place.
I mean, like, you know, if you're having a conversation about gender differences, I wouldn't think I would need to reiterate again.
Oh, yeah.
And by the way, let me distinguish.
You said individuals are much more alike than people would want to admit.
And you just tried to say two individuals are very different, male, female.
But you just said they're more alike than you'd like to admit.
But we're talking within the context of gender differences and relationships between men and women.
So that polarity was already implied in the conversation.
I think there's a lot of feminine men and there's a lot of masculine women.
She does make a point.
That wasn't the argument though.
What is the argument?
Can you explain it to me?
Incredible.
Stupid!
We started here because she said that her guy was nice and she made him wait for two years.
Which is her choice.
I don't want to get off because this is your line of questions.
What about you?
Oh, what was the question?
It's been a while.
How long should a guy wait to smash?
Should a guy wait to smash?
How long should he wait?
How long did you make him wait is what it was, right?
No, no, no.
How long should he wait?
Should he wait?
Generally.
I thought it was the longest you made him wait.
You know, I'm going to tell you this.
I don't make the guy wait that long because I don't date guys that I don't like.
So probably like a couple of dates, right?
But that's if I have to be dating people that I like.
That's all I date.
A guy should not...
I mean, my personal...
I've been on both sides of the spectrum.
I think that...
Guys should not really wait.
I think that if there is something to be said when guys tell other guys, like, you should only look for women, that they say it in Spanish, que tienen las ganas.
Like, they're hot for you.
They're excited for you.
Because if, kind of like, well, if you ask, if you keep asking the question, it's going to be the same thing.
Women don't have a rating scale.
Women have smash or pass.
Sometimes, if they're lonely, they may smash.
Sometimes, if they're bored, they may smash.
Sometimes, if they're drunk, they may smash.
But I don't think, I think, I always tell, I have guy friends and I tell them all, if you keep dating a girl more than three dates and you don't smash, move along.
Because nine times out of ten, it is what, you know what it is, it is what it is.
She doesn't F with you, she's using you for the date, she's going to get a meal ticket, like, and the, like, get it done, whatever.
But at least, like, from, like, the guy, the friend, They're not watching this, but my guy friends, like, they'll all attest to them.
I tell them, three dates, that's it.
Would you agree that, like, in the first encounter of meeting a guy, you know if you want to smash or not?
100%, within eight seconds.
That's why I keep saying, like, women don't use a rating scale.
Men use rating scale because it's not even a rating scale.
Guys are just trying to understand women, and women don't realize that men are trying to understand women.
So the only way that men can, like, equivocate what women are thinking is they go into a rating scale to try and understand what girls like.
And that's why he's asking the question of, like, would you, wouldn't you, should you, shouldn't you?
And the reality is, if a girl is hot and we have hormones, we have more emotions than men, you guys think more logically, so you're thinking analytically, but we think emotionally.
And if you have emotions, you have inspiration, you have motivation, you're gonna be all wet, and you're gonna be like, Daddy!
You know what I mean?
Yep.
Okay.
Quite a lot of info at one time.
Sorry.
Just so it's clear, it's what's the longest you made a guy wait, and then why, right?
No, the question was from the very beginning, should a guy wait, and how long did you make him wait?
Three of our questions.
And then for you, how long did you make him wait?
When I was 23, I think I made a guy wait six months because we were friends first, but it was just because we were friends first and we were in a friend group and we didn't want to mess up the friend group.
Other than that, the dude stayed in my bed.
Let me tell you this, guys, in the chat.
The guy was in my bed and stayed in my bed and didn't touch me and I was losing my freaking mind.
That's what you want to go for.
You don't want to go for anything less than that.
So you don't want them to touch you?
I wanted him to touch you.
What she basically said is she wants the woman to be in the, the woman needs to be in the pursuit phase, not the other way around.
I need to be pursued.
I will never pursue.
Every time a guy has tried to make me pursue and like, you know, the book, the book.
No, but just literally just now, the example you provided is that he didn't show you attention and you wanted it.
No, no, no, no, no.
What I said was he was with me and he did not make the move.
That is what drove me crazy.
The attention was 110% there.
That is why I was losing my mind.
He opened the doors.
He was there.
He was sleeping in my bed.
That's what I mean.
He didn't pursue you sexually at that point.
Sexually.
That's the word.
Yeah, that's what I meant.
He made it about everything except for the sexual part.
And because of that, I felt so cared for and so safe and so everything that I was just like, con ganas.
Take me.
He was my...
Is that the guy that you broke up with?
No, no, no.
Or someone else?
No, someone else.
I almost married that man.
Aww.
Aww.
Why didn't you get married to him?
He joined the military and started drinking a lot and getting into drugs.
Did you like him better than the guy you broke up with?
Did you like him better than the guy that you broke up with recently?
When he was in his prime at least?
The guy that I broke up recently with, it's not Man, fuck that nigga.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because that's the problem.
No, no, no.
That's the problem.
That right there, that's the problem.
It's very simple.
It's when the military guy that had the issues that you first were going to marry him.
It's not simple.
It's not simple.
When he was at his prime, and then your other guy, when he was at his prime, who did you like better?
Um, I'm gonna tell you this, the one that I almost married is the one that I was in love with because of, no, because he showed.
And the one that I was with recently, the problem with him is he was cheated on twice before, and so every time that I wanted the intimacy.
He was there with opening the doors and stuff.
But that actual ride or die, every time we got close to it, boom, he'd disappear for hours or days and not respond.
And I was like, I can't do this anymore.
There's too much push and pull, too many games, too many this.
And that works in the 20s.
Girls in their 20s, that works with girls in their 20s.
Girls in their 30s, it doesn't work.
Okay.
But assuming all things are equal, the other guy was your first love and you preferred him.
Assuming he didn't go into the drugs and all the other bullshit, he was the better candidate.
But he did.
No, I'm saying, I'm saying at their prime.
I'm saying all things equal.
Oh, hypothetically, both of them are at their prime and they were both everything good.
Yes, the military guy was more attractive.
No, it's not more attractive.
It was ride or die.
So there's a difference.
You're more attracted to him.
Because he was ride or die.
It's not attraction.
Attraction is when you find someone attractive and there's like, I like you.
I know you're frustrated with me, but I'm trying to explain it from a woman's point so that you can understand it better.
Women don't just see attraction like I'm physically attracted to you.
It's also like a safety thing.
A multi-layered issue.
But the bottom line is attraction.
The bottom line is attraction.
No, they were both really hot.
The bottom one, I think, is one handle it and one didn't.
I think that's what it is.
Well, the second one actually was way better at handling it.
Not the military.
Not the military guy.
No, the military guy was like, okay, but the second guy...
What she's saying is that the second one handled it.
Okay, well...
Shut up, bitch!
We'll move on from here.
What about you?
The bottom line is attraction.
There's multiple components to attraction.
What I simply was saying was, it seems to me, from your story, from your own words, the first guy was far more attractive from a holistic standpoint, and he was the better candidate.
However, he fucked up and lost that attraction from getting into drugs, etc.
You said that so eloquently.
And then you went on to the next guy.
He was also attractive, but he did not compare it to the other guy because he did certain things that made you lose attraction for him, such as hot and cold signals, etc.
Fair?
I love the way you said that.
You said that eloquently.
Thank you.
Well...
Can you figure it out to be all mine?
Yeah.
No, you said...
When you've interviewed a bunch of women, you just kind of...
That was really...
Yo, for, like, speaking women leaders, I said, yo...
Yeah, I've talked to 2,300 of y'all, man, so...
Start to be able to decode the woman needs.
Okay, what about you?
I think a guy should do it whenever he wants to.
Okay, I agree, but we can't just do it without your consent.
So how long ideally should you wait in your opinion?
Like a year.
A year?
Okay, and then the question is how long do you make a guy wait?
A year.
Why?
Honestly, to be honest, like, I always wanted to wait till I was married.
And then shit happened.
Shit happened.
And I was like, yeah, I'm never doing this again.
And now I'm with this guy.
I got married and that's it.
So the current guy you're with now, you made him wait a year?
Yeah.
I love that.
Okay, so interesting.
And then he waited a year and then married you.
And then smashed.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Is he Christian?
Yeah.
About Christian?
Mm-hmm.
So religion made him, I guess, wait a year and they marry you.
It was mutual because I was also, like, raised that way.
And then I fucked up.
And I was like, yeah, I'm never going to do that until I actually get married.
So you didn't have two bodies?
Yeah, just two.
Okay.
Wait, so the longest a guy should wait, you're saying, is one year, and then the longest that you've made a guy wait is one year?
Mm-hmm.
The guy you left in Virginia to, you made him wait one year?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
All right.
And then what about you?
Yeah, I'm not letting a guy wait that long.
Yeah, we know.
All right, so the first question, if I'm not mistaken, is how long should a guy wait?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
He really shouldn't wait, to be honest with you.
Like, let a nigga get his nut in, you know what I'm saying?
Shit.
And then what's the longest you made a guy wait?
Two hours.
Okay, first off, more like Stevie Hardy 90 days, you know what I'm saying?
More like a month maybe.
I'm not capping.
Is it 90 days or 30 days?
So my fiance had to wake like a month and two weeks.
So there you go.
That's a good time.
Were you counting?
What made you make it way that long?
Just counting the days down or what was it?
Honestly, it wasn't even about the sexual thing when we were hanging out.
It was more just like, you know, being in the moment and living our best life.
And we talked about a lot of things, and we were just mutually attracted from the conversation.
And then after that, I was like, man, fuck that.
Like, what you trying to do?
Like, what you trying to do?
Okay.
So you made your fiancé wait six weeks.
But what I'm asking is, what's the longest you made a guy wait?
In general.
If it's six weeks, then it's six weeks.
But I'm saying, like...
Like, you want my high school?
How long I made them wait?
That's fine.
Sure, let me be nice.
Just be honest.
I'll just say a month.
Usually it's like a month before I even like...
Because they got to push up on me a little bit.
Okay, so therefore the longest you made them wait was actually a month and a half.
It's a month, man.
I'm trying to fuck.
You just said your fiancé was six weeks.
That's my fiancé.
Oh, this is a different nigga?
That's the main nigga.
The nigga that won shit.
The nigga that won the fucking prize shit.
What do you win?
He won me.
That's L prize.
Which one of y'all said that?
Oh, Chris.
The question, the first question was, should a guy wait?
No, he shouldn't wait.
Then we asked, what's the longest you've made a guy wait?
And then you said, well, my fiance, I made him wait six weeks.
Cool.
Have you made anyone else wait longer than that?
Yes.
I made someone wait a month.
A month.
Do you not understand that six weeks is longer than a month?
I mean, he's my fiance now, so of course he had to wait a little longer.
I don't think you understand the question.
Therefore, the fiancé, you made him wait the longest.
Help me understand.
He asked me how long should he wait.
How long should he wait?
I mean, he really should be waiting.
No, the question was how long was the longest you made a guy wait?
The longest I made a guy wait was six fucking weeks.
That's the question.
So it was not the guy in high school that was a month.
It was this individual, your fiancé, who made for six weeks.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I mean, I asked you if you needed to know that.
Oh, in general, then six weeks then.
In general, six weeks.
Okay.
That's what I said the first time.
Okay.
Let's ring this thing.
Didn't I say that?
Well, the thing is, is that because I didn't realize you were doing a three line.
Okay.
Wasn't there a third part of the question?
No.
It was a two-part, right?
It was, how long should I wait?
What's the longest you made a guy wait?
And then wait, it was Y, right?
Y, yeah.
Okay, why did you make your...
Okay, we know the why.
It was because it was going to be your fiance.
Pretty much.
All right, we didn't ask her that, though.
We only asked her...
Who?
All right, let me go back through this.
You said your guy, you made him wait forever, but then the reality is it's two years, right?
And you said you made him wait because he was a nice guy.
And then how long should a guy wait?
We didn't ask for the first part.
How long should a guy wait?
We did.
Until he makes the move, like, I think a guy should probably make the move, like, very soon.
Like, right off the bat.
But then I think that opens up, like, a bigger conversation.
No, but how long should he wait is the question.
To make a move?
No, how long should he wait for sex?
For sex?
Yeah.
One day?
Two days?
Never?
Again, I think it depends on how much you like the girl.
Like, if you love this girl, you want to be with her that bad, you'll wait as long as she tells you.
Right?
Honestly...
So you're saying wait as long as the girl wants?
Yeah.
Man, fuck that.
Okay.
But I do think that men should make the move first.
I think that opens up the conversation to like, how long do you want to wait?
How long are we both willing to wait?
But isn't it...
Okay.
How should you make this move that you're describing?
The vibe.
I'm just kidding.
No, no, no, no.
Maybe just like a little leg touch, a little like, a little back of the neck.
Pull my hair.
Something a little subtle beside you.
Pull my hair.
Direct, but not pushy.
Oh my God.
You know?
So, touch her.
Something.
Subtle.
Subtle.
Romantically touch me.
Yeah.
I like a little brush my hand or like put your hand on my waist when I go through the doorway like type shit.
Your answer is as long as the girl wants.
Yeah.
If the guy should wait.
Yes.
Even if he has to wait forever.
Yeah.
Let's say your brother was talking to a girl, and she was doing what you're doing.
Would you be okay with that?
Making a guy wait forever?
If he's okay with that, it's up to him.
No, no, no, no, no.
As your brother, if a woman was employing the same tactic you're employing right now on a guy, making him wait forever, would you tell him, stop?
That's not the tactic I'm employing.
You said, that's not the tactic I'm employing.
You said, how long should he wait?
I said, as long as the girl says.
You took it to forever.
Did you or did you not say earlier that you have a guy waiting forever?
Yeah, but I didn't say he should be.
No, no.
That's my question.
If your brother was in the same predicament, what would you tell him?
I'd say if you want to fuck, if that's important to you, dip.
If it's not, stay.
So you would advise him to not be on the girl's timeline?
Yeah, I don't suggest that anybody be on anybody else's timeline.
Do you not realize you just contradicted yourself?
I'm saying that you be on your own timeline for when you're ready to initiate something, but you have to have that mutual respect.
You have to have consent.
Of course.
Yeah.
But you contradicted yourself.
No, I didn't.
Tell me how.
It's going to be a long show.
I asked you, how long should a guy wait?
And then you said, as long as the girl wants him to wait.
Correct.
And then I said, okay, as long as the girl wants him to wait.
You have a guy currently in forever.
And then I asked you, if your brother was in the same situation in this forever stage, what would you tell him?
And you're telling him, don't be on her timeline.
Which contradicts what you just said.
Well, I mean, what else is he gonna do?
What would the alternative be?
Fuck another bitch.
My name is Book.
You want to wait.
You wait as long as the girl wants to wait.
If you want to be with her.
It's a type of girl, though, too.
Because you can't just wait.
If a guy waits, he should be waiting for the creme de la creme.
Two body.
One body.
This is a top tier.
But if he's waiting for a girl that's got like, look, I'm 32.
If a man is going to be waiting for me for weeks, you're dumb.
Listen, my brother said I'm tired of waiting.
I'd tell him Pack your bags and leave.
Do you not see the disconnect here?
What you think?
And then when I put your brother in the same situation, you gave different advice?
What advice would you give your brother in that specific situation?
Again, it would be to do your own thing.
I say everybody be on your own timeline.
Don't ever be on anybody else's timeline.
So for the man, for my brother, if your timeline is within the year, within three months, and that's not happening, you go.
But for the woman, if it's forever, then you wait for that man who's willing to wait forever.
I mean, I get you.
I understand.
I'm very biased.
You know, I care everybody's point.
But For me, to advise my brother, if that bitch is throwing it out and she ain't trying to really throw it and give it to you, move the fuck on.
Because you know how women are.
Because we know how women are.
You know how women are, right?
I mean, I can speak for myself personally, right?
Move the fuck on.
I can speak for myself personally.
If I'm going to make you wait forever, obviously it's not going to happen.
If I make you wait for a long ass time, probably not going to happen.
But for my brother with some random ass girl who I don't know...
Do what you gotta do.
It's interesting how when you ask women how long should they wait, they give you advice that puts them in the driver's seat.
But then if you take a loved one and put them in a position where the woman has the driver's seat, they immediately say, no, get that bitch out the driver's seat, leave.
Smart.
Right.
So do you not see the glaring contradiction?
Well, nobody's forcing you to stay.
It's just her personal preference.
But the female who's trying to get your brother down, you know what I'm saying?
But the female who's trying to pursue and to seduce your brother there, you know what I'm saying?
That's why I said, if my brother reaches out to me and asks me, oh, da-da-da-da-da, X, Y, Z, man, she's leading you on.
If she's not throwing the pussy out, move the fuck on.
Right?
We are females.
We need sex.
We get sexually frustrated.
Pimples are coming on our face.
We need to get it on.
So does men.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that only women have the privilege of not making sense?
I mean, I guess, but no.
Would you guys agree with that?
I mean, only women have the privilege of not making sense.
At this moment, yeah.
Whatever happens.
I would say in general, like, women really have an amazing privilege to be able to literally make zero sense, contradict themselves in open forums, and no one says anything.
Bro, you deciphered my entire, like, jargon.
You know, because, you know, women is different.
They have a lot of emotion inside, you know?
It's crazy what it has inside.
Oh, my God.
Fuck that.
Next.
Next, bitch.
My brother.
Next, Benny.
I understand that women are more emotional, but that's not an excuse.
To not make sense.
When you have the same emotions that women have, you understand that.
You know, it's a lot of women inside of you for changing your mind, what you think sometimes.
Oh my god, it's exhausting.
But men and boys have that too.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why he put the example up.
Let me ask you a question.
Do men and women have the same rights, privileges, and accesses when it comes to equality under the law and access to certain things like education?
Absolutely not.
Nope.
No, the court systems are all messed up.
No, no, no.
I'm saying, do women enjoy all the same rights and privileges that men do?
Enjoy?
Oh, the rights and privileges?
Yes.
Voting, all of that, yeah.
I don't.
Actually, more.
How do you not?
I don't because, I mean, even though we have certain rights, I feel like at the end of the day, if I vote or whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying, that shit is just being tossed to the fucking side.
You know what I'm saying?
Men run this world, period.
Yo, what?
As much as we want to sit here and believe that we run shit, men really do run shit.
Is your argument that your vote doesn't count?
My vote will never count, to be honest with you.
As much as I want to sit here and be for women and women rights, I'm for it.
But I know for a fact and reality, my vote does not give up my voice.
I would actually argue that women have more rights and privileges than men do in 2023.
How about this?
Name one.
Wage gap.
Okay, we'll address that in a second too.
I would argue, can you name one right or privilege that a man has that a woman doesn't?
That a man has that a woman doesn't?
Yes, name one right or privilege outside of maybe being able to have sex with girls and not be judged for it.
He has no period.
Name one privilege or right that men have that women don't.
Let me think about that, to be honest with you.
Alright, I'll come back to you.
And then you said something about what?
I'm sorry?
The wage gap.
The wage gap is a myth.
It's not real.
And it's not just because of what he's going to say, but it's also women, as I studied it, women don't ask for enough.
And so that wage gap, when they actually do the study and the statistics, doesn't account for how women don't speak up and ask for it.
A man will say, yo, I'm big D mofo, you need to pay me or I'm out, and they'll willingly leave to another place and they'll get a higher bump.
So when you look at the wage gap, it doesn't account for any of those discrepancies at all.
That's just one small one.
You're going to say something?
Go ahead.
I would say that that addresses the privileges aspect of it because I think men in this culture are much more often raised to be confident, aggressive, go after what they like.
What?
Yo, let me tell you this real quick because this is a little thing for me.
Come on, come on.
Bring it on.
So, women, we are told our entire lives, when we're born and watching the movies and societal standards, you can be anything, you can do anything, you can, everyone will always be there.
The world owes you, the world is your oyster, blah, blah, blah, Prince Charming, all the movies, right?
Me neither, but regardless of the fact, society standards, it is there.
So, even if we weren't raised that way, and you were a little tough, you go out into the world, there will be someone to take care of you, right?
My experience was like that as a woman.
For men, The world owes you nothing.
You better work for everything you have.
You better not ask anybody for anything.
No one will ever be there for you.
So when it comes to these...
That's the only reason I'm here.
When it comes to this kind of stuff, it's I don't want to demonize women.
I want to get women to understand what is actually happening.
And the reality of what's happening is while we're told you can...
Look at the way we're dressed.
Like, look at the little cute little things.
I just had to say, hey, yo, Erin, can I come on to the podcast?
And I'm on here in front of millions of people while there's a bunch of podcasters that wish that they could come here and have this clout and can't.
That in itself, there's so much.
I came to Miami and I have so much opportunity, 10 times more than men.
Half my career, I thought...
Being a woman was the problem because patriarchy, because crazy.
And then I realized like, oh, I have the golden ticket.
Now I got a company in England and I have a company in LA, all men working for it.
All I got to do is create content all day and they do the actual work.
You make a good point about women.
I make a lot of points.
And then you think about how many of them try to unalive themselves.
And that's the real issue of where this whole thing started from.
There are so many places for men to go to because there are so many men that are dealing with mental health issues and dealing with court systems and women taking their children and taking their money and taking everything.
And there isn't anything for men.
But for women, you take my kid, court system.
You don't pay child support, court system.
I want to off myself.
I 100 different places to go to.
You see what I'm...
It's not even...
Let's let her get a chance to respond.
Go ahead.
I'm not just counting your points.
I think you make a lot of really good points.
I think that...
Yeah, you're right.
We could text somebody and be on the show.
Yes, do women win custody more often than not?
100%.
I think where you fall short of that argument, though, is that we're all here because somebody considers us attractive.
So that was what I grew up with in the culture is that as a woman your value is equated to what you look like and you're supposed to sit around and wait for a man who made the money to come and save you.
And so I think you're right too.
You said men are taught not to ask for anything.
That's true too.
I think that's why they're taught to say what they want.
You don't think that's hard?
I think it is hard, but I think that it's harder.
It's harder to be raised not in that culture.
It's hard to be raised to wait and then be taught to go after what you want as opposed to being raised to go after what you want and then you get into the real world.
What do women say when we say, like for me, right?
As a woman, I say to a man that I'm dating, I don't want to do it alone.
I don't.
I want to do it with someone.
And so if they misconstrued that for like, leave me alone, go ahead and leave me alone.
But as a woman that has dealt with manipulative other women, that has also had to live more like a man, I didn't...
This life of mine, it was not given to me.
I came from the bottom, bottom.
My mom always tells me, the women from my barrio did not make it out, right?
No, same, but I think it's hard.
Hold on to keep things, and I'm going to come back to you about how...
Women are oppressed, like what you were saying with the voting.
The discussion was on the wage gap.
You're saying that there's a wage gap because women?
Because their gender?
Yeah, I would say that there's a wage gap.
Not only a wage gap, but I would say, like, a wealth gap.
And I'd say that that kind of goes back to, like, up until the 90s, women couldn't have a credit card.
Like, up until 97, a man...
97?
A woman couldn't have a credit card.
No, no, no.
Let me finish that last point.
Up until 97, a man could S.A. his wife.
There you go.
And it was not illegal under the law.
If you were married, you could not charge a man with SA up until the year of 97.
So I think there's a lot of ways that women have been institutionally oppressed.
And number one, just simply not being able to have a credit card, not being able to have your own bank account.
That kind of shit was going up until the 90s.
And so a lot like, I think, marginalized cultures are the same in a lot of ways that it's like you've...
You've had your shit cut off for a long time, and so now you say, oh, now we're all equal, so we all have the same start.
Well, it's like, we started way the fuck back there.
Okay, so you're saying that the reason why women earn less and there's a wage gap is because of SA being allowed until 1997 within the confinements of marriage and because women didn't have access to credit cards?
Yeah, I would say institutionalized financial oppression.
That is the definition of financial institutional oppression.
You remember that women being a household wife?
Being a housewife used to be a status symbol.
That's how we got into this mess.
I've been through the history.
So where women got confused is we started being told, oh, you don't have rights like a man.
You can't vote like a man.
You can't work like a man.
a man, you can't be in charge of your own finances.
When that actually used to be a status symbol, because the poverty line was so great to be a housewife actually was a status to not have your own credit card, not have your own money, not have to worry about anything was a status symbol.
And through history, we can see that because of the women's suffrage movement, which was valid, I am, I'm not going to be like, But it was valid.
But we got tricked right now because we're looking at it as this demonic thing, like how dare I not have these rights and possibilities when really it was a status symbol and it just changed.
It's history.
I mean, that doesn't really...
Well, you still have to explain.
Remember, you have to...
I mean, I know, but I'm listening to this.
Do you remember what the question was for you?
The question was something about voting or whatever.
No, the question was name one right or privilege.
That men have that women don't outside of being able to have sex with women without judgment.
Incredible.
Yeah.
When you're ready to answer that, let me know.
I've been into this.
I've been into this.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, so that's because you made that assertion.
So I'm asking you, can you name one?
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
There isn't really.
I'll give you the answer.
I mean, you're right.
There isn't.
But I mean, it is what it is.
So then you're incorrect.
I guess my opinion is incorrect, but I stand on what the fuck I said.
So you stand on being wrong?
I stand on being wrong and right, because honestly, at the end of the day, we need men.
Shit, what the fuck are y'all talking about?
Y'all want to sit here and be females and act like we don't really need men, but we do.
No, my God, no.
You're wrong.
Okay, and then with you, okay, so you said that I'm wrong.
Because you didn't really address what she said.
You said the suffrage movement.
I get it.
But the reality, if I'm going to come to a bottom line here, the reason why women...
I mean, run it back for me so I can remember.
No, no.
Just run it back.
No, no.
We're going to move on.
The reason why women earn less and there's a wage gap is because women deserve less.
And the reason why they deserve less is that, don't worry, I'm going to go through this systematically.
Women earn less because women are inherently lazy when it comes to resource creation.
Going out, working more hours, working hard, laborious jobs, etc.
This is why women dominate college campuses.
Can you please stop interjecting randomly?
We don't need ad-libs.
Yeah, we don't need ad-libs.
This isn't a Jim Jones song or a Young GZ song from 05.
So, yeah, just please be quiet.
So anyway, what I was saying was women, right, earn less a lot of the times because they take more vacation time, okay?
They work less hours.
They work jobs that are less dangerous.
They are more prone to take paternity leave, etc.
In general, women earn less because they deserve less most of the time.
They also don't go into job fields that make more money.
The top 10 jobs that pay the least, women go into those career fields.
And the top 10 job fields that make the most, men go into those career fields.
And 10 jobs that tend to make the most tend to be harder, more laborious, more hours needed, etc.
Men are more willing to sacrifice to earn money because men understand that their value is derived from their title and how much they earn.
Women, on the other hand, Let's be honest.
No one really gives a fuck about your title or how much money you earn or your status.
Like, okay, it's cool.
I do.
That's fantastic.
But can you find a man regardless of your status?
I mean, yes.
Okay.
Can a man find a woman regardless of his status?
100%.
No.
I've done a lot of bum-ass dudes who find a woman.
No.
That's fine.
But to be able to attract the baddest chicks, you have to be a somebody.
That's not what we're talking about.
You said end up with somebody.
Find a woman or find a man, right?
What?
What I'm trying to say is that a woman's status does not affect her ability to mate, but a man's status absolutely does affect his ability to mate because women date across and above hierarchies.
Men don't.
Men will date down all the times.
There's a reason why a man that's a king will marry a peasant and turn her into a queen, but a queen will never look a peasant's way.
We are not the same.
So, with that said...
I say all this to build, to set it up.
The reason why women earn less is because they deserve less, because women don't have the same proclivity to go out and earn resources because it doesn't affect their attraction.
It doesn't affect their sexual market value.
Most women would prefer to have a strong man, take care of them, be the breadwinner, stay at home, and work a job kind of on their terms, not be a breadwinner.
That's what most women want.
So since most women understand that, hmm, I want a breadwinner, Guys go out there and work.
However, how many dumb, retarded bitches are able to get an attractive man?
A bunch, right?
Because men value beauty.
They don't value success.
Women, however, value success.
So that is why men are way more driven than women to go out there and create resources.
If you look at millionaires, you look at billionaires, etc.
Dominated by men.
The highest earning individuals.
Dominated by men.
The women that are billionaires get it through inheritance.
So the reason why women earn less is because women deserve less.
And it's even more pronounced because women...
Dominate college attendance!
There's more women in college, but why do men still earn them?
Because to be honest, bottom line, women are lazy when it comes to resource creation.
I have a few points to touch on.
Number one, women outpacing men in college attendance is a recent phenomena.
So you would assume that then the earning potential of women to increase would then be offset by a few years, right?
So women have been outpacing men in college attendance for what, the past 10-15 years?
So these women who are fresh out of college, they are just starting to begin their careers.
So we have yet to see their full earning potential.
Number two, There's a reason for that.
Women major in stupid majors that don't make money.
If I'm going to be blunt about that.
Women tend to major in career fields and majors that don't have a high income capacity a lot of the time.
I'm not going to disagree with you there, but I'm going to again say that culturally, as I said before, women are taught to wait for a man to come around.
Are women human beings sentient, able to make their own decisions?
A thousand percent.
Okay, so whose fault is it if they go into a career field that makes less money and major in something stupid that isn't going to make the money?
Nobody's fault at all.
And I also want to say that...
It's a woman's fault.
It's a woman's fault.
It's every individual's fault what they want to go into.
Let me bring this in because this is a problem.
Women want to be able to be equal to men, have all the same authority as men, while simultaneously not having responsibility.
If you go into a stupid career field, you deserve to make stupid money.
But women want to be able to go into stupid career fields, say I'm strong and independent, and make the same as a man that goes into STEM, that goes into Alaska wildfishing, that goes into offshore drilling, that goes into police, go into military, etc.
And they want to earn the same.
No.
I'm a proponent of you deserve as much as you work for.
But most women don't want to work hard jobs.
Let's be honest.
So can I ask you a question?
Do you think a man working a laborious job, something very dangerous, deserves to make more money than a man who is a CEO who's racking in millions of dollars of profit annually for a company?
Well, here's the thing.
The man had to rise through the ranks and build himself up to get to that position.
Not necessarily.
Nepotism plays a huge role.
Nepotism.
Yes.
Okay.
And also politics.
You're going to put the CEO, you're going to make sure that somebody who your shareholders like, who agrees with the people who are paying the bills.
That's a skill set, though.
Being liked and being socially calibrated and reading the room and being able to get investors to take you seriously and getting people to respect and follow you is a skill set.
I also want to say that statistically speaking, women out earn men in CEO positions.
They have a...
So where's your wage gap?
No, I'm saying they have of making the company more money.
Women who are CEOs have a tendency to make the company more money than men who are CEOs.
I don't.
I don't.
I would like your style on that because women tend to run businesses into the ground because they operate on a communitarian basis, not a meritocracy.
Are we able to actually do a fact check?
Because this is a statistic I know very well.
Yeah, and actually 40% of women actually make up the workforce.
But I will say this.
What companies are you speaking about specifically that are profiting more than milk?
I can't name these companies specifically.
I'm just saying that I'm quoting a fact from a...
No, as CEOs, women tend to out-earn men as CEOs.
Honestly, if you want to be realistic with it, what companies are females really running?
CEOs, females, what are they running?
They're running beauty business, they're running fucking...
Not even that.
Exactly.
Thank you, go.
Well, and not only that, but I was going to say women actually, they did a study on women that are CEOs, they actually did a projection to see how they would do in their long-term career and they actually nine times out of ten end up retiring and being a housewife at the end.
Wait, doesn't everybody end up retiring at the end?
What she's saying is that women are more likely to leave the workforce to pursue family and children over pursuing a career.
Men are more likely, because again, like I said before, men have a natural proclivity to create resources, whereas women don't.
Right?
I've always said, typically women work these higher end jobs as a mean to an end to find a man that makes more money than them can take care of them.
Most women don't want to be breadwinners in a situation where they're taking care of their family.
They want to be with a man that earns a lot more money than they do so they can stay at home and work on their terms.
Well, I would also say that women are able to do something that men can't.
Create a human life.
Okay.
That doesn't refute my argument that women make less because they deserve it.
And actually, that would help the argument because, once again, they leave for work.
That's why they end up leaving.
No, but I'm saying that having and raising your children, I would not say, is any less valuable work than you going out and creating the resources to be able to provide for them.
No one said that.
What I am saying is that women earn less.
They earn less because they deserve less, but they just made your children.
They're taking care of your kids.
But, I mean, they're not really speaking on making no kids.
You're making nonsensical comments that don't have anything to do with what we're talking about.
Okay.
Okay, so you just said, oh, well, having children is important.
That's not the argument.
I'm not saying that having children isn't important.
It's extremely important.
But the argument is simply that women earn less because they deserve less because they work less hard than men in general when it comes to the workforce.
I'm not saying that having a child is a useless job.
I think it's a thankless job.
I think more women need to go back and have children.
But let's not, you know...
Be delusional here and not understand why women earn less.
Women earn less, right?
Because they deserve less, quite frankly.
That's what it comes down to.
I would say that there's a distinct difference between that statement, they earn less because they deserve less, which is where I would bring up, okay, well, we have your children, we raise them.
That's something that you would pay.
That's probably a priceless experience to you.
Okay, you're making an emotional argument.
Let's talk facts here.
Conversely, you're talking about in the workforce.
If I'm a business owner, right?
I would prefer to hire a man who I know I'm going to be able to get 40 years out of versus a woman who's going to potentially have a child and leave the workforce.
Now I'm out paying her paternity leave, etc.
So I'm going to bring that back to what you said before.
Privileges that men have that women don't.
So you just said you would hire a man over a woman.
Is that not a privilege that a man has over a woman?
I was using a hypothetical and paternity leave is given to both genders.
Nice try.
Paternity leave is not given to both genders.
Absolutely it is.
It's given to men and women.
Not in equality.
Like, how many companies are providing paternity leave to fathers?
They do.
Excuse me.
They have to.
Because of the labor acts.
The labor laws.
Is that true?
Yes.
Comparatively to women.
It's illegal.
If you don't give a...
They absolutely give paternity leave to both genders.
Yes.
Okay.
I mean, that's fair.
And what was the point regarding that?
So if both men and women get the same amount of paternity leave, then why would you hire a man over a woman?
Men have less.
Men have a lot less time.
And they're less likely to actually take it.
Because they won't give up that.
The point I'm trying to make here, I get what you're doing.
You're trying to deflect it and make an emotional argument.
We're having your kids.
Cool.
That's fantastic.
That's a very utilitarian argument.
What I'm saying is that I'm sticking to the topic at hand.
I'm simply saying that The wage gap exists not because of gender.
It exists because of personal choice, and women tend to make really bad choices when it comes to making more money and being successful in general because women prioritize family and children over career, which is completely fine.
But we can't sit here and say, oh, women earn less because they're female.
No, they earn less because of their personal choices.
Well, wouldn't you say that men make the personal choice to go out and try and earn more money for their family?
Yes, but that...
So as a woman, for my family, then I would...
To be able to feed your children, have your children...
Okay, hold on, that's fine.
But then you no longer deserve to be paid as much as a man who's willing to make sacrifices you're not willing to make.
I am willing to make sacrifices.
If I'm willing to sacrifice my career to have your children and raise them, that's a huge sacrifice.
Did you not just see...
You're willing to make sacrifices.
You're willing to, as a man, make a sacrifice to not be around your children to provide for our family.
But understand, he's making that sacrifice to not take the maternity leave because his wife or his partner who's having the baby who is making that choice to be at home to raise a kid in family, he cannot be at home to raise a kid in family.
He gotta go motherfucking work and pay the goddamn bills.
You guys are giving it from the wrong perspective.
If I'm a cold-hearted business person, I'm not going to hire you.
I would rather hire him.
He's a workhorse.
Period.
You're not a workhorse.
You're going to have a baby.
You're going to leave me.
He'll stay with me for life.
He'll work those 69 days.
Again, I bring that back to privileges men have over women.
That's not a privilege.
Because who's going to say that I have a kid?
I don't have to have a kid.
While you're having a kid and taking the maternity leave, your man is going to work to pay the fucking bills so you could be at home and breastfeed your motherfucking newborn.
Do you understand what he's saying?
So, let's operate on logic here, right?
If I'm a business owner...
I got it fresh.
Just take your heart out of it.
It's very simple.
No one puts a gun in your head and tells you to have a child.
If you choose to have a child, that's fine.
But with that is going to come potential consequences.
And nobody puts a gun in your head and tells you to provide for your family either.
No, but that's the right thing to do as a human.
As a man!
As common sense human?
Like what?
That's what I love, man.
Don't take care of you.
You have a college degree, right?
Okay.
Do you not see the flaw in your logic right now?
No.
Tell me.
Explain it to me.
If a man is willing to work more hours to provide for his family, he deserves to be paid more than the woman that's going to sacrifice working to have a child and stay at home.
You are speaking about a specific situation, right?
A woman who stays home to have children and a man...
It's speaking on in general, though.
It's in general.
Hold on.
Does the rest of you guys understand why I'm going with this?
Is she the only one that doesn't understand this?
Yeah.
You guys understand that if a man is more willing to work more hours to provide for a family, that by default means he's willing to work harder than a woman, so he deserves to be paid more.
This is a problem.
When you have all the women understanding, when you have all the women understanding and two women trying to explain it to you and you still can't fathom it, that's the reason.
I do fathom it.
I'm just playing devil's advocate.
I'm saying that he's talking about a specific situation.
You're not doing a bad faith is what you're doing.
This is reality.
I feel like you should stay in reality.
I feel like you should stay here and human.
You know what I'm saying?
Just shut up, please.
If you're not going to make an actually thought-provoking comment or whatever, just don't speak.
You're dumbing down the quality of the conversation for no reason.
You're trying to demean her.
Stop that shit.
Stop that fucking shit.
Okay, sorry.
Damn.
I'm not going to choke because you've been doing that the whole time.
Stop.
If you're going to make a comment, make it intelligent.
No, it's fine.
Keep the mic next to you, but just be quiet.
And don't speak unless you're going to say something that's actually thought-provoking or whatever.
Don't hurt the quiet of the show with ad-libs and stupid shit and try to make her look dumb.
I'm not trying to.
You are trying to.
Okay.
Show respect for other people on the panel.
Anyway, like I was saying before.
Okay, we're good.
Yeah, okay.
If a man's willing to work more hours and make sacrifices, he deserves to be paid more than the woman that wants to have a family.
You're using a specific situation and applying that across the board.
That's quite literally what you said.
I didn't say that men are willing to work more hours than women.
I'm just saying that you said, do women deserve to make less because they do less work?
My argument is that women are doing work by having and raising your children.
So I don't think that they deserve to make less.
They do because they're not putting that work into the company.
That is an assumption that you are applying to women across the board.
I'm saying that the wage gap exists whether or not you decide to stay home and have children.
I could be a lesbian, I could never have kids, and the wage gap still applies to me even though I'm not a mother who wants to stay at home with my kids.
No, it's not because if you actually equate hours worked, okay?
If you equate hours worked, experience, degrees held, type of job, etc.
When you equalize everything, the wage gap, guess what?
It evaporates.
It's gone.
So at first you were saying the wage gap exists because women deserve to make less, and now you're saying that it evaporates?
No.
Okay.
Wow.
I'm saying the wage gap exists because of choice.
Women make choices, correct?
Yeah.
Everybody does.
Okay.
Women make choices on what career field they want to go into, what education they want to pursue, etc.
Correct?
Correct.
Okay.
Those choices directly influence how much money you make.
A thousand percent.
Absolutely agree.
The wage gap that I am referring to is two people who have the same job, the same position, the same amount of degrees, the same experience.
One is a man, one is the woman.
The woman is paid less.
That's not true.
That is a fallacy, one thousand percent, because when you actually compare apples to apples, same degree, same education, same everything, it's equal.
As a matter of fact, women earn a little bit more when they did this study at Google.
When you actually equal everything.
And then on top of that, you want to add in affirmative action, discriminatory hiring, where they prefer women over men.
There's female-only job listings out there for certain career fields that are male-dominated.
You will never see that the other way around.
I would argue women have way more opportunity and still make less because of personal choice.
But when you actually equalize everything, the wage gap is gone.
The reason why the wage gap exists is because they compare all working men to all working women.
Well, guess what?
All working men versus all working women is very vast because you have different degrees, different jobs, different hours of work, different levels of laboratorious work, all this stuff.
But when you actually equalize a man and a woman working in the same job field, same experience, same degree, same everything, the wage gap is evaporated.
It's gone.
And also, it's illegal to pay somebody less off a gender alone.
So that would be illegal.
But this is the thing.
No one wants to admit this, but I will say it.
Women earn less most of the time because they deserve less.
Women are lazy when it comes to resource creation in general.
Are there go-getter women out there that will go out there and make a bunch of money?
Absolutely.
But that is a minority of women in general.
Most women are not entrepreneurial minded like that.
Most women aren't go-getters like that.
Most women aren't risk takers.
Most women are risk averse.
Most women prefer safety and security through a man if they can get it.
And if given the opportunity, they will take that every single time over working their own job and creating their own security.
That's just how it is.
I would qualify having and raising children as a resource creation.
Wait, wait.
For a company?
How?
No, no.
Not for a company.
That is just, in general, resource creation.
But that's the argument here.
Wage gap with a company.
How did you have a kid help me as a business owner?
I'm sorry.
Please tell me.
And secondly, logically speaking, if I'm a business owner, I can hire you and pay you way less than paying him.
I'm going to hire all women.
What's the point of hiring men for it?
Well, I mean, you got a point there.
I'm going to be real with you.
You got a point there.
And I do think that you have a point too.
I think that across the board, you see many more males going into fields, like executives, doctors, and so on and so forth.
But I think that also has to do with culturally how women are raised.
I think that we need to be raising more women, more young girls to be interested in becoming doctors, becoming corporate.
They're not.
Because women in general are lazy when it comes to resource creation.
I can't tell you how many times we've had girls on this show.
I was in law school.
I was in med school.
I left, though, because I didn't want to do that shit.
Women are way more willing to give up on a career field if it doesn't align with their dream.
I can't tell you how many female artists I've spoken to that pursue music or art or some other fashion, whatever.
Women are more willing to give up a career field to do what they want.
And the reason for that is because no one gives a fuck how much money a woman makes.
A woman could be a poor artist and still find a rich man.
Men can't do that, though.
I want to be an artist.
I want to be a rapper.
Nah, I better go get this engineering degree because bitches aren't going to fuck with me if I'm a bum.
Men are way more likely to make career field sacrifices in the pursuit of getting resources to get mating options than women are.
Because women can still get mating options while being a bum, but a man can't.
That directly influences our decisions.
You disagree with what?
I disagree that men can't get women if they're bums.
The woman of your dreams?
Maybe not.
Probably not.
They're called hobosexuals.
A man who lives with a woman just because she got a house.
Who has more options?
A man that's a hobosexual, as you claim, or a man who has money?
Obviously a man who has money.
Wouldn't it be better to have money so that you have options versus tolerating rude, disrespectful women that treat you like a hobo?
Sure, but you're just saying ability to get a woman, ability to get a man, right?
A bum man can still get any, not any woman, but he can definitely get a woman.
Who has more options?
A woman making $20,000 per year or a man making $20,000 per year?
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
A woman making $20,000 has more options.
So her social status has zero influence on her ability to make, correct?
I would say it does not have zero influence on it.
I would say as a woman who makes a competitive salary, you have a higher social status, correct?
Do men care about social status?
I think so, yeah.
The answer is no.
You don't care about social status.
No.
So you don't care at all.
You would settle for a woman who is basically leeching off of you and taking your resources as opposed to going after a woman who could actually contribute to your net worth.
See, this is where women just are completely clueless when it comes to what men want.
Can I say something?
No.
The more money a man has, the more status a man has, the less he cares about a woman's status.
I would say the same thing for women.
The more status and money a woman has, the less I care about the status and money of a woman.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
On average, that's a lie.
I have a bunch of girlfriends.
They make a bunch of money.
They will not go out with a man that's less than them.
I'm talking about cougars.
Who wants to pay for the man forever?
I won't pay for him.
So let's say you make money, right?
More than your guy.
You want to pay all his bills?
Hell no.
You?
No.
So you're going to pay all your guy's bills?
No, I will not.
But I'm also never going to ask a man to pay all my bills either.
So that's just my own standard, personally.
But we're just saying, naturally speaking, if that's the whole setup right there where you're making more money than your man, you're not going to want to take care of him.
So your money doesn't really matter.
No, but honestly, if I see in a man like a partnership, a real partnership, and he is providing for me in ways that are not financial, then I will pick up the bill.
So you said you did it before, right?
Oh, yes.
Where are they now?
Still bumming.
Bumming.
Okay, so...
With some other bitch who's taking care of them now, not me.
But why not you?
You said you don't want to take care of your man.
Again, I did not see the potential for a beneficial partnership to me at the end of the day.
The argument was simply, a woman's social status doesn't inhibit her ability to mate.
A man's social status does.
Do you not understand this concept?
A man, if you take all things equal.
Ability to mate, period.
Not just with the person of your choice.
Ability to mate.
That's the ability to mate.
No.
Is it of the person of your choice or just the ability to mate?
Because there's a lot of female prostitutes.
Prostitutes don't count.
I'm talking about actually being able to build attraction and genuine desire with a woman.
A man's social status absolutely plays a role in that.
A woman's does not.
Do you not understand?
No, I do.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
What are you arguing then?
My argument was simply that as a woman, I know a lot of women who take care of men.
And I also think that men can have sex regardless of their social status, just like women.
But their options are significantly limited compared to if they had more status and money.
Again, so let's draw a comparison.
It's not equal comparison, but for a woman who's attractive versus a woman who's not.
So a woman who is physically attractive can sleep with whoever she wants to, right?
Yes.
Versus a man who is not at all.
He's not physically attractive, he can't sleep with whoever he wants to.
Are you aware of the fact that an average looking woman has more dating pull than a celebrity male?
According to what?
Based on what?
Dating apps, statistics, Instagram response rates, etc.
An average woman has more pull, more options than a celebrity male.
That's news to me.
That's why.
She don't know.
Yeah, and here's the thing.
This is what I mean when I say women can kind of go through life and not understand the male perspective on anything because men come up to you, so you don't have to go fuck about the male perspective.
But men, on the other hand, have to understand women.
You can run around and say arbitrary random things like, the vibe, the vibe.
I have to know what the fuck the vibe is to get laid.
See, it's funny because you'll say the vibe.
I have to know exactly what the vibe means.
You might not even know what it means, but I have to know what it means to get laid.
Men must understand women to fuck.
Women don't have to understand men to get them.
I would say that women have to understand the male gaze in order to be attractive to men.
Excuse me?
Yes, the male gaze.
Women have to understand what a man finds attractive in order to be that.
Women have to understand men to get married and to keep a man.
But they don't have to understand men at all to attract them.
Agreed.
That's my point.
So, for a man to have the most options, he must acquire status and resources.
For a woman to get the best guy, she doesn't have to acquire status and resources.
The point is, success for a man is mandatory.
Success for a woman is elective.
That's a choice.
It's all choice.
You being successful will not impact your ability to secure a mate.
Me being successful will directly impact my ability to secure a mate that I want.
Yes.
You will still have choice.
You will still have choice as a female.
But personally, of my choice, of my choice, right?
My social status will affect my ability to have a man with my choice.
No, no.
You could be a waitress at Kiki on the River and meet a multi-millionaire that will take you to poppy steak at night.
If you're the kind of guy who doesn't give a fuck what I'm doing with my life, you are not the man for me.
Most men don't give a shit.
Well, but if you are, if you are that man, you really don't give a fuck what I'm doing with my free time, you are not my man.
Because my man is going to be invested in my dreams and my ambitions just like I am his.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Your dreams and your ambitions.
Let's say those dreams and ambitions don't make money.
Do you think he's going to break up?
Would you?
The answer is no.
But let's say my dreams and ambitions don't make money.
You're definitely breaking up with me.
I know a lot of women who date men who got no dreams, no ambitions, or whose dreams and ambitions are leading them nowhere.
For now.
Yeah, for now.
There's always a time clock on it, is the point.
Even you yourself.
When women pay the bills, there's a fucking shot clock.
When men are paying the bills, they're willing to go the whole game.
And again, how long are these relationships lasting?
Like, a woman, you can secure any man you want.
For how long?
How many times are men leaving women for a younger, hotter version of that?
Rarely.
That's not a story you've heard over and over again.
A man leaving a woman because she got too many kids.
Women initiate 80% of the breakups.
Men actually initiate in their later years as well.
The same statistic shows that women initiate in their 30s my age and men initiate And men initiate actually in their 40s, but it's the same stats.
The men are actually still divorcing women later on in life around 40, and women are divorcing men around 30.
Women initiate 80% of the divorces.
Yeah, yeah, in 30s.
That's a fact.
I'm reading the statistics that you're talking about in the statistics, in the report that you're talking about that I've read.
Which is an actual statistic.
Women do it.
Women divorce rate 80%.
Participate in infidelity.
Women divorce rate 80%.
We're not talking about the why.
We're talking about the what.
Yeah, but if you're my partner and you're actually cheating on me and you don't give a fuck about me, are you really my partner?
You're moving the goalpost.
Stop, stop.
You're moving the goalpost.
First it was, men initiate the breakups because they're cheating.
Well, not really.
It's really the women that initiate the breakups.
And then you're like, oh no, but it's because they're cheating.
It doesn't matter.
They initiate the breakups.
I didn't agree with that.
I didn't agree with that fact.
I've not seen that before, and so I can't really say the validity to it.
Okay, you don't have to agree that the sky is blue, but the fact is that women initiate an overwhelming amount of their divorces, and women initiate most of the breakups in traditional casual relationships.
I mean, how many times have you broken up with a guy versus you've been broken up with?
I always break up with a guy.
Thank you.
There you go.
How many of you, how many of you have been broke?
Like, this is incredible.
I mean, she broke up with her guy.
Then again, I know they're making the best choices.
But the point is, is that women overwhelmingly initiate breakouts and divorces with men.
It's not men that are leaving relationships.
It's women that are leaving relationships.
Why are women leaving the relationships?
That's irrelevant.
No, it isn't irrelevant.
No, it isn't irrelevant.
That's the problem.
Look, look, look, look.
I don't care about the why because I'm simply just stating a fact that they do it.
It's for the family.
We don't care why they're leaving.
Men also leave.
70% of men leave.
The divorce rate, 70% of men are the ones that are leaving in their 40s.
The same thing, 80% of women are leaving in their 30s.
That's the actual stat.
The whole report shows the entire thing.
So 70%, 80%.
And also, infidelity does have a point to plan it because legally, if a man, if anybody is cheating and you can prove that in court, then you can take them for more money.
So if a man is cheating more often, then it would make sense that women would initiate the divorce because they're unsatisfied.
If your man was making money and you know he was cheating, would you leave still?
Yeah, because if I can prove that he's cheating, then I can get bigger.
Cardinal, your insurance, your rent, your life, everything, even your kids, daycare, whatever the case may be.
He's paying everything.
Would you leave if you know he was cheating?
Personally, yes.
I do that.
You know, I pay my fees.
That's why I'm not broke.
Yo.
Women, like, this isn't even an argument, man.
Like, women initiate an overwhelming majority of all breakups, whether it's a marriage, it's a dating, casual relationship.
Women initiate a majority.
Now, if you guys want to actually talk about the why, I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why, but I would argue it's mostly in the female fault why women leave, because women think that the grass is greener on the other side.
That's just typically what it is.
And you can, I mean, we can have a whole conversation about this shit, but the internet, dating ass, Instagram...
Actually, it's single parent households that are the reason that why men are not fulfilling women's needs and women are so insatisfied and not self-regulating their emotions and relying on men because of all the single family households.
It's neither part.
No, it's because women aren't delusional.
I'm going to be a thousand.
The reason why so many of the breakups are happening...
They are delusional.
I mean...
Let's use an example here.
Like, you couldn't even properly describe attraction, right, when you were talking about that situation?
No, I could.
We just distinctively said that there's a difference between attraction and a relationship and intimacy.
That's all.
I'm not trying to...
Next.
No, go ahead.
You were saying?
I wanted to let you finish your thought.
I mean, I'm not trying to irritate you.
I'm just trying to have a discussion because the reality is there are differences, but it's also, like, I'm going to tell you straight up, like, I align with Blackpill because it's looks, money, status, act accordingly.
It's not just looks, money, status, then, like, that's it.
It's, and, like, you say that you don't care about Blackpill.
Like, three years ago.
Okay, so once you were starting, when your value was starting to go down.
No, no, no, my value's already, I mean, post-wall, you know what I mean?
Yeah, well, I'm saying three years ago, you were 29?
Sure.
Okay, so at your epiphany phase, you started to realize, but when you were at your peak, Blackpill wasn't a thing.
No, no, no.
I found Blackpill.
Oh, sorry.
I found Blackpill when I was starting to do a podcast.
I actually came on a different thing.
Anyways, it doesn't matter.
The point is that it aligned with me because it was the facts.
It's looks, money, status, and then act accordingly.
But what I'm saying is that you didn't give a fuck about the facts and looking for the truth until you got older.
And that is most women in general.
No, no, no.
If they even decide to go down that route.
Most women in general, 100% I agree with you because I've dealt with those women that are lying, manipulative.
They'll tell you one thing, they argue, and it's just like, oh my God, I'm exhausted from you.
I understand where you're coming from.
But that's not actually most women.
I've been finding women that are wanting to find true love, that are wanting to find a man that's going to support them.
But the problem that I talk to women is, like I said before, women were delusional in the sense that we think that men have it easier, the patriarchy.
But the reality is, we got the golden ticket.
It's just a perspective that's messed up.
And that's what he's trying to like get you.
It's not I don't think you guys are doing.
I've read your demographic.
I read your stats.
I know that you guys are here and doing this weekly because you're trying to help young men in this generation, especially with the court system that's going on.
So I respect you guys for that.
But there's also another entire thing that's happening where young men are terrified.
And young women, because of the hot girl summer, don't believe in love anymore and they want to get that bag.
And so I'm not here at 32 years old because I'm trying to find love from your demographic.
I'm sorry.
The reality is, is that your demographic will be my children.
And so what's gonna happen is if we continue on this trajectory where women are the devil and then men the patriarchy or the devil, is that we're losing the ability to understand that men have it very difficult in life to provide to heart.
And I'm saying this as a woman that has provided, that has worked like a man.
It's hard.
You cry yourself to sleep.
Nobody holds your hand.
Nobody comes to save you.
You're expected to do X, Y, and Z, and that's it.
Can I ask a question?
Yeah, sure.
Would you guys agree that men and women They both would rather raise a family and have a relationship with one person, have a team, have a unit family.
Both men and women, regardless of your gender, you would prefer to have one person that you are with for a lifetime raising your children together.
It's ideal, but most men want quantity.
They don't want one girl.
I really appreciate you guys for saying that.
Alright, let's move on.
Do men want quantity?
Would you want your children to be around different women all the time?
I wanted to speak and I think you guys took a lot of the show as well.
Do the other ladies have any takes?
Anything you want to say?
No, everybody talked about it a lot.
Do you have anything you want to say?
No, you told me not to talk anymore.
Do you remember a privilege that men have that women don't?
I mean, then we already do that because you said I was wrong and I was...
I was giving you a chance to maybe redeem yourself.
I mean, I can't, so you got it, bro.
It's a bad move on.
Right.
I disagree with the thing like women initiate.
I don't know where that stat comes from.
I'm going to have to double check that.
But women overwhelmingly initiate all divorces at all age levels to men 80% of the time.
I don't know where the stat comes in.
You're saying like 40% of men.
After 40 years old, men initiate 70% of the time.
I don't know.
It's on the same report.
No, there's no way.
Because the longer a man's in a relationship with a woman, the more he's likely to pay with alimony.
Right, but there's a midlife crisis at 40 that attests to the 40-year-old around...
Is it a midlife crisis or is it awakening?
Maybe awakening.
I don't know.
But there is something to be said that men come to.
Because think about it.
Men are financially stable.
They have everything together.
But they have way more to lose.
Right, but maybe they married the wrong person.
Maybe she's nagging.
Maybe she's a...
Have you heard the phrase, it's cheaper to keep her?
I have, absolutely.
But what if a man is financially able to leave her?
And that's all they're trying to talk about.
Even if you're a multi-millionaire, you're still not going to be financially.
I'm with you.
I've read the reports and I'm with you because then women take half of everything.
So it's really, you save more for keeping her.
There's no way that's true, man.
Read the report.
It's also, you know the other one that they say that marriage isn't an all-time marriage isn't an all-time marriage isn't an all-time marriage isn't an all-time marriage isn't an all-time marriage.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's use logic here.
If I, if women initiate divorce, right, at 80% in the 20s and 30s, right?
Okay, 30s, right?
Why would it shift to men when it becomes far worse and there's more severe consequences for you now initiating a divorce in your 40s?
Because you've been with her longer.
Because look at every 40-year-old man.
Trajectory-wise, they usually are more financially stable.
And think about it.
If a man does marry a woman just based off of looks and not out of any intimacy, when you get older, that woman becomes entitled.
The nagging starts.
That's when he starts cheating.
That's when he goes with other things.
That's when life gets better because he's financially able to...
But he does a divorce though.
He won't leave.
That's what you guys are saying, but I'm telling you based off of the stats and the financial portion.
Everyone in the chat is saying it's a fake stat.
Go ahead and take a look at it.
I'm not arguing, bro.
It's not my problem.
What's the article?
It was a government article.
It wasn't like a here or there.
It was a.gov.
Thecensus.gov.
It's the same.
Everybody's saying this, Kat.
Go ahead and read the...
You know what else?
The marriage is at an all-time low.
It doesn't make logical sense.
Marriage is at an all-time low, but cohabitation actually made up eight points for the seven points we lost in marriage.
So, while marriage lost the seven points, cohabitation went up eight points, so therefore we actually have not lost people coming together.
I lost brain cells.
Then you don't do math and you're not able to read statistics.
Trump said it best.
Fake news.
I mean, go for it.
Maybe it is fake news.
It just doesn't make logical sense.
No, no, no.
And I'm with you guys on the fake news.
Why would they divorce when the consequences are more severe?
I'm going to suffer at the hands of that.
Oh my god, can I send you guys a report?
Maybe because of the kids.
Yeah, after.
It's after the kids.
In that report, it does say that it's not when kids are babies.
It says when kids are grown.
Everyone in the chat is saying you're lying.
Go ahead and read the report.
Okay, guys, we're going to kill the Twitter stream and Facebook.
Go ahead, Fresh.
You got something?
We got a video to react to.
Okay.
Oh yeah, I like the video guys on YouTube, by the way.
And I'm going to rumble.
So guys, this video is going to encompass what we asked you guys earlier about, for example, how long should a guy wait for sex.
So here we go.
So man goes off on a woman because he took her on 10 dates before getting play.
Oh my god, 10 dates?
What does that say?
I said he took her on 10 dates already and she said he can't get none.
I think he's muted.
Is he wrong for kicking her out?
Yo, I would kick her out and I don't even have one.
Wrong one then.
Bitch, you got me fucked up.
I know!
Find another version of that because I've seen it before.
You could probably find it.
Yeah.
10 days?
That's after 90 days, ain't it?
Is that past 90 days?
That's expensive!
That's expensive, too!
That's past 90 days, I don't know that much.
It's a recession!
Yo, it's a recession.
Two days max.
Did you pull up that one?
Three, six, nine...
Hold on, I'm just trying to do the math.
Shit.
She got me fucked up.
All right, yo, while we wait for Chris to pull that up, guys, we got almost 13,000 of y'all watching on YouTube alone.
Do me a favor, like the video, probably almost 20K between Rumble and YouTube.
So like the video, guys, because the engagements have been kind of low, and I've been getting a headache.
No offense, ladies, but you guys have been saying a lot of stupid things during the course of the show, and my hair is definitely thinning.
So, no offense.
I just got to call a spade a spade.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's fine.
I mean, like I said before, I'm not going to knock y'all, because women can kind of go through life and say dumb shit and nobody says anything, bro.
I thought we had chemistry.
Yeah.
Isn't everybody's name here daddy or something like that?
Is that all women?
No, but I've noticed from doing this show that there is a good amount of...
What was that?
You said what?
I drank?
Okay.
Gemini.
Cancer times.
Leo.
This is just some chats from the brain cells here.
El OnlyFans shows and has proved that women are okay with being objectified if there's money involved.
Prostitution.
Oh yeah, there we go.
Ladies, the best way to know that you have a good man is if he opens up the door for you, but if you don't say thank you or allow him to open the door, you're not a good woman.
Or open the door.
Okay.
Why do we have to say thank you for opening the door?
Because he's chivalrous.
No, no, no.
So you don't say thank you when people do stuff for you?
Naturally?
I say it all the time.
Yes, I do.
So, yes, I do.
So, isn't that a nice gesture?
I mean, it is a nice gesture, but I feel like sometimes...
It's a given?
I feel like sometimes you don't need to have your hand shaken and have someone say, thank you, you did a good job, or thank you, I'm grateful for what you did to me.
I feel like if you're going to give, you should give.
Without intentions.
I agree, but manners is a thing though.
Manners is a thing, so I feel like if I gracefully accept it and I'm having a good time and I'm happy in the presence and I'm involving you in the presence, I shouldn't have to say thank you because I give to you back in other ways, whether you don't agree with the love language, you know what I'm saying?
I don't agree with that part, but appreciation goes a long way.
Wallahi, Black Spider says, I've never been able to have an intelligent conversation with a woman.
They talk about dumb shit like astrology and emotional intelligence.
Ladies, name one thing you consider the topic of intelligent conversation.
So one thing you would consider intelligent conversation.
One topic.
Okay, next.
Next, right.
One thing you would consider intelligent conversation.
One topic.
I would say talking about...
I mean, biohacking.
Biohacking?
Okay, that's good.
I guess just like controversial things that come up in society normally, like if you see it pop up.
So controversy?
Okay.
Probably like finances or like discipline.
Okay.
Okay, can I ask you the question again?
Because you know, I speak so fast.
I'm in Brazil.
I remember that.
So it's a topic that you talk to a man about that may be smart, a smart topic.
Oh, okay.
One topic.
About life, you know.
Life?
Yeah, life experience.
What do you do?
What do you want for life?
What do you like to do?
It's that.
Life experience.
Yeah, life experience.
Yeah.
Okay.
For you?
The future.
The future?
Whose future?
Yours or his?
Both.
Both?
Okay.
And for you?
World history.
So the question was one topic that's intelligent that women talk about.
So it's funny to hear the reactions.
Two had nothing.
But...
Did anyone give a good...
Nothing?
She said biohacking.
She said controversy.
And I would say it was good as well.
World history.
World history.
Politics afterwards.
Politics?
Okay.
To be said after the fact.
How many of you ladies would you say give great head?
Name what technique you think would get your man coloring his toes?
Pause.
Eye contact.
Wait, what was the question?
How many of you ladies would say you give great head?
Name the technique.
I mean, I won't share any secrets, but she...
Chris, you got a video?
Or Mo?
Somebody give a head?
Okay, Elay T says, how many ladies have guys blocked on their phones or have blocked a guy's number?
How many guys in total, I guess?
All of them are blocked.
I have a lot.
My Instagram, oh my god.
I mean, how many guys have you blocked?
I have like maybe like 500 something guys blocked because they send dick pictures and I don't give a fuck about that shit.
500 guys is a lot.
You?
I don't even really talk to guys.
Aww, I love you.
Angel, what about you?
I think I have like five guys blocked.
Why'd you block them?
Different reasons.
For you?
I know I have two.
Why?
For sure.
They're just ex-people.
Okay, exes?
Yeah.
Probably like a few.
Why?
I don't know.
If it's online, I just don't respond.
But the ones that have blocked on my number, it's either they just keep calling and calling or overstepping boundaries.
Okay.
Yes, I don't have an exact number, but it's a little number because, you know, when the guy, all the time, you say the message, they want to talk with me.
It's annoying.
Yes, and I block.
I don't have time for it.
I say all the time, don't talk with me.
I just block.
Okay.
And for you?
None.
Yeah, you don't talk to guys.
And you?
I'd say probably like five, same reason, like harassment.
All right.
Damn, man.
Video's finally here.
I don't know why we didn't have that sound earlier, but...
You got a question?
Yep, we do it live.
Ready?
Get out the car, what you mean?
What do you mean, get out the car?
We just went on a good-ass date.
We just went on a good-ass date.
Okay.
Like, why the fuck would you even...
Come on, man.
I keep wasting my time.
I took you on like 10 dates.
Really?
You got two kids already.
This is the dude I decide to be with.
You can get out.
No, what you mean I can get out?
How you gonna kick me out the car just because we went on a date?
How did I waste your time?
We're together.
I mean, so I gotta take 15?
So?
So you think I'm just easy like that?
Man, I'm sad.
Look, I'm not even trying.
Okay, and you're going to.
Man, listen, you can get out.
I can get out.
You real life going to make me walk?
Because you ain't giving me nothing.
Get out.
Man, I'm not even...
I'm wasting your time.
Are you serious?
I don't have to.
You really going to make me walk home?
What's your reaction?
And whose fault is it he waited for 10 dates and not smashing?
She can walk.
That's right.
She can fucking walk.
10 dates, bitch.
Two kids?
Two?
And whose fault is it he's waiting for 10 dates?
I mean, it's his fault for real, to be honest with you.
I mean, she got two fucking kids.
Okay.
What about you?
His fault.
Why?
Because he shouldn't have stayed for that long.
What did I say?
I tell my guy friends.
Three dates.
That was ten.
That was ten.
You done.
You're dumb.
Is he justified for kicking her out of the car though?
Is he justified for that?
No, he's an idiot.
He should have just never taken her out for the first place.
There has to be a certain level of decorum or responsibility as you know when someone's about you and when they're not.
If you don't know, then stop dating.
Okay.
So, I think it's his fault for staying that long, but I don't think his reaction was wrong either.
Why?
Just because he's clearly upset.
Like, he didn't want to wait that long, but it's your fault for waiting that long, also.
So, what if that was you, though, and he was going to kick you out?
I mean, I would probably be upset, but I don't like to go back and forth, so I'd probably just get out of the car.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, it is his fault.
He should have been more forward with what he would have wanted.
If you're going on a bunch of dates and she's giving you the same answer, you should have put two and two together.
Okay.
You know, everybody do what you want to do.
I think what you can do with the girls is rude.
If you said, what do the girls do with you, just say, I don't want to hang out with you.
It takes a long time with me.
You don't need to do that, you know?
And the girls don't need to stay all the time with the guys and say, oh, well, well, no.
Take care of things and go out, you know?
Everybody should do that.
You don't have to stay in the time fighting with other people if other people don't like the way you do the thing with you, you know?
So just leave?
Yeah, just leave, you know?
Don't fight it for that.
For you?
I would say both.
Both?
I was wrong.
Why?
Because I feel like she should have told him her intentions before all those dates.
Who do you think is more responsible if you had to pick one?
A gender.
Her or him?
I'd say her.
Oh, okay.
Why her?
Because if you knew you wasn't going to give him, then why keep going on dates with him?
Period.
I feel like you're just wasting their time.
That part.
So you think it's her fault?
Yeah, honestly, yeah.
So, do you think that he acted appropriately?
He could have did it differently than he did, but I can understand why he did it the way he did it.
I would have been mad too.
Alright.
What about you?
What do you think?
Whose fault is it?
I agree with a lot of what you just said.
So you think it's her fault?
Yeah, I think a lot of these situations can be avoided with communication about what y'all expect.
But, realistically speaking, do women want honesty?
No.
Really?
It depends.
Do women reward honesty?
No.
Depending on the woman.
It depends on the honesty.
Yes.
All right, ladies, let's be honest here.
If most men walked up to you and said, listen, I just want to have sex and not have anything of real consequence, would you give that guy the sex?
No!
Okay, so why do you expect men to be honest with you if they're not going to get what they want?
I wouldn't say that that's a necessary no.
If you come up to me and you're like, I want something casual, like you want to just have sex, I don't want anything else, and I'm down for that, then I'm down for that.
Realistically speaking, when are you going to be down for that?
If I'm single and I don't want a relationship.
Most women are not going to be down for that most of the time.
What you're talking about is one short, obscure time, maybe catch you on the right day, at the right time, when you're in heat, at the right vibe, at the right bar, whatever.
But realistically speaking, 95% of the time when men, be honest with it like that, are you going to fuck them?
You're right.
I can't.
No, and if I was honest with the man and I was like, I'm going to wait for as long as I want to.
Could be 10 days, could be 20.
Are you going to take me out?
Probably no if they want to have sex.
Yeah, so honesty is not rewarded on either end, is it?
Well, actually, you save him time.
Because if he wants just sex, he won't stay.
Yeah.
Versus in the hope of having sex, he's going to stay.
What does it still benefit when they get taken out on a date?
They still get attention, they still get a date, they still get a validation.
Like...
A lot of times, guys, I would argue, like, guys take L's most of the time when they take girls on dates because they don't close.
And if you don't close, then it's a L because you wasted your time and your money hanging out with a girl because most girls expect you to pay for dates.
Are there girls that will be like, oh, let's go 50-50?
Yeah, that's fine.
But your chances of smashing go down because, yeah, see, look, some of the girls are laughing here.
So, I mean, yeah.
So, you think it's a girl's fault?
A little bit, yeah.
Because I'd say, as a woman with intuition, you probably have picked up at that point what his intentions are.
And I think you're right.
For a man, it's a lot harder for them to understand.
Like, is this going to be the date?
Is this going to be the date?
Do you think his reaction was appropriate?
I mean, I think he could have handled it a little bit better, but I don't blame him.
Yeah.
He had an emotional reaction.
He's just a man.
He can't handle it.
He's just a man.
He's a dick, son.
So we're going to give the full answer on Rumble.
Or you want to give it now?
Well, did anyone else...
Okay, so you think, uh, what do you think about is, uh, no, did we get everyone's response to the reaction?
They're both trash, bro.
Both of the women are trash.
What do we got here?
We got...
Yeah, guys, can you start shifting over to Rumble?
We'll go here to Rumble here in a second.
I'll give you guys my take on it.
So...
Should we make...
Go ahead.
You're going to say something?
No, I was just going to say...
So for the most part, I can understand this video because most guys get frustrated if they don't get laid.
100%.
However, it's the guy's fault because he stayed in this scenario.
But ultimately speaking, if the woman was upfront about her intentions, would he stay?
Maybe not.
So it is a two-part process, but I would say the guy has to say, you know what?
If I want this, I'm not going to allow it.
But women, they offer hope that it may happen at some point, and then the guy stays.
That's the only part where my sisters in the world of Manosphere stuff is that's the only thing that has put me on this side more than the other side is the fact that as a woman, I know how women are.
I know how I am.
That's the key word that I say earlier.
It's like, I don't date men that I don't like.
And that's a big problem that I see with women today is they date men they don't like.
Why?
It means a survival, means of the bag, means of the yacht, means of the whatever.
And it's, my mom's, I'm Mexican and Argentine.
I'm a full-on first generation.
Both my parents were immigrants.
Did you date men that you didn't like when you were younger, though?
No.
I'm not capping.
Not everybody's low class and has to date to get up.
I actually had parents that loved me.
I had the financial status.
I had the economical part.
So you never went out with a guy and just got like a free dinner or sat on a section with guys that you didn't necessarily like at a club?
No, no, no.
So I'm, again, from LA, you can look at my Instagram.
All my guy friends, they're promoters, they're workers, they have their marketing agencies.
We all went out and rode out together.
I would give them advice on these hoes, but like the problem is as a woman being on here, here's the thing.
You're coming at me.
I get it from both sides.
I get the woman telling me I'm a pick me.
I get the men telling me I'm all this and I'm using men and I got the golden ticket.
F everybody.
The reality is life is what you make of it.
If you treat yourself good, you will find good.
If you treat yourself like crap and you lower your standards and you use people for money.
Do you think your guy friends want to have sex with you?
100%.
And you use people for money.
That's what I'm trying to say.
You hung out with guys that you don't like like that.
And I told them, I don't like you like that.
It will never happen.
You will never get in between these legs.
It will never happen.
If you want to be friends, we can be friends.
When we go out, we split the dinner.
When we go out to eat, we split the bill.
It is what it is.
Contradictions.
And there's not a contradiction.
Those are my male friends.
I will never sleep with any of my male friends.
You quite literally said a second ago, don't go out with guys that you don't like.
She's not going out with them.
Yeah, I'm not going out with them.
I'm hanging out with them.
No, it's not.
Are we going out right now?
Are we dating because we're in the same room?
If I go out with her, I'm splitting the bill with her.
If I go out with my guy friend, I'm splitting the bill with the guy friend.
I'm not having the guy friend pay for me.
He's not saving me.
He's not picking up the bill.
He's not fixing my house.
He's not fixing my coochie.
He's not fixing anything.
That is a friend...
So, question.
Do you fuck every guy you meet on the first date?
Absolutely not.
No, no, no.
Second date?
Third.
A month.
So you went out with guys you didn't like like that, then?
No, no, no.
I liked them, but then they would do something that I didn't like, and I was like, oof, I can't.
I can't.
So like, okay, for example, right?
You want a specific to understand.
If I go out with a man and I like him, and it seems to be good, but on that second date, he doesn't call me to make sure I got home okay.
He doesn't open the door.
He's not doing all these meticulous things that I'm paying attention to because I'm sober and I'm not drinking on the date and I'm not ordering expensive meals either to be considerate of him.
I have to see what he's bringing to the table.
Otherwise, a marriage will not work.
If I'm putting more in a marriage than the man is putting in, then it's not going to work.
And you can see that on the first date.
If you're taking out a woman, she doesn't say thank you for paying a full course meal.
She doesn't say thank you for opening the door.
She doesn't say thank you for any of the things that you're doing for her.
Don't date her.
If a man is dating you and he's not doing those things...
Then don't date him.
It's very simple.
1 plus 1 equals 2.
Everything else is complicated.
There's higher class, there's lower class.
Lower class will accept more.
Higher class will not accept more.
That's it.
That's the way I see it, at least.
That's my opinion.
Shut up, bitch!
Yeah, bitch!
I mean, I think you've definitely, like, I get it that you're trying to, you know, no, I don't use guys or whatever, but you've definitely fucked a couple bad boys in your time, bro.
I mean, bad bad boys?
100% you have.
You wouldn't be 32 and single if you didn't.
What does that mean?
Botox.
Wait, what does bad boys mean?
Look, man, I gotta call out the...
Like, look, man.
What does bad boys mean?
Go on, Rumble.
Just go on, Rumble.
This shit's crazy.
Just go on, Rumble, guys.
Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit.
We're going to get real!
No, I'll give my take on this situation and then the other thing.
Are we on Rumble yet?
Come on over, guys.
Let's go!
Oh, my God, I'm so excited!
Why is that?
To address the first thing, the guy fucked up going on 10 dates with a girl.
I've always said this, women will use you as long as you let them use you.
Because girls are just inherent resource extractors.
If they can get free dates out of you and use you for your time and attention, they absolutely will.
It's your job to figure that out and get rid of her immediately.
I think half the game dating for men is getting rid of girls that are time wasters.
That's half the game is getting rid of girls that aren't DTF, that aren't sexually interested like that in you.
Because if you're good enough or you have money, they will absolutely go out with you and get the experience.
So you got to be able to get rid of those girls immediately.
But at the same time, I understand he shouldn't have been in that situation at all.
So him kicking the girl out...
I mean, it is what it is.
I mean, she played a stupid game and she got a stupid prize.
There you go.
So, it is what it is.
He got emotional.
That was 10 dates.
That was 10 dates with stupid villains.
He got emotional, but I mean, it's warranted.
Yo, I would get emotional.
I wouldn't have reacted like that.
Because I would have cut her off way before.
But I think what you saw was a combination of a guy that realized, like, yo, this girl's pulling my leg.
This is a waste of fucking time.
And he reacted the way that he reacted.
But imagine all the guys that have 10, 20, 30 plus dates.
This happens often.
Forever they're waiting for a chance at your box.
And they don't get it.
And this is what I mean, though, when I say women are delusional, right?
So you got a girl here, because on paper, she has two kids.
Automatic L. Low sexual market value.
You have two children from another man.
Like, bro, you should be worshipping the ground that I'm walking on, even giving you a date.
But, right?
in the social media age, Instagram, dating apps, et cetera, women that aren't that attractive have a higher sense of perceived value thanks to the internet.
So it used to be a girl had to step outside of her house to be able to get attention, and she would have the suitors directly in her geographic area, right, and she would pick the best out of those guys.
But now, thanks to internet, Instagram, whatever, a girl that's a five can get attention from a dude that's like a ten across the country, right?
Well, that's going to inflate her ego, inflate her sense of self-worth, and she's going to behave that way, and she's going to think, I deserve better.
Because since women date up, the grassroots grin on the other side for them.
That's just how it is.
So, what we've ended up with Is relationships have went into the ship because women think that their value is higher than it really is.
It's going to be a thousand.
So is it greener on the other side?
It isn't.
I have to say, I agree with the one thing that you said that the women are delusional.
What is your take on it?
Are women delusional?
Yes, some of them.
What do they expect?
What are you expecting?
What?
For example, she has two kids, wants to make them wait and play games.
Yeah, that's doing too much, I think.
That's delusional, yeah.
Okay.
For you?
Yeah.
Can you explain why?
I actually have a friend and he's like a hospital manager and he makes money and he said he wouldn't care if a girl makes like 20k and she's just happy with him.
He dated someone who made just as much money and she just like that entitlement, that kind of like masculinity, I guess you could say, he wasn't going to put up with it.
So she didn't respect him?
Yeah, I guess she was just like, she wasn't, she didn't have enough gratification, no appreciation.
No, don't do that.
Don't do that.
What?
I'm saying don't do that as in just because he didn't accept her because she was on the same level as him.
Respect her a little more because she is that bitch.
No, it wasn't that he didn't respect her, but like he would talk about his hardships and she'd be like, well, you chose that career.
Like she just wasn't, she was just harsher and like, I don't know.
She owned her shit.
Not owned her shit, but like if he would go to his girlfriend, like talk about the stresses at work instead of being supportive or like listening to him.
Oh, so she wasn't shit.
She wasn't doing anything.
My bad, my bad.
I read it, bro.
No, no, don't do that.
Don't do that.
No, you don't do that.
You don't do that.
She was just very like entitled.
She had that confidence that she was this and that and he ended up leaving her.
Like she was done with it.
He didn't want to hear that.
No, no.
Luckily he left.
Do you think queer women are like attractive?
Queer?
What do you mean queer?
Career?
Yeah.
Like money-making career bitches?
Are they attractive?
Do I think they're attractive?
Humble one, yes.
But are they humble, though, if they've built themselves up to get queer?
Nah, they ain't really humble, to be honest with you.
So fuck that.
I ain't fucking that bitch.
She better eat my pussy.
I'll tell you that much.
No!
Who mans is this, bro?
Who mans is this?
Yeah, I gotta ask.
Are you under the influence of any drugs or anything?
No.
Are you drunk?
I have been drinking Hennessy.
I have.
No Hennessy?
Just Hennessy.
High on life, huh?
Always.
Okay.
Always.
Okay, we've got some more chats here.
Oh my goodness.
This panel's crazy.
Yeah.
So anyway, what was I saying?
So yeah, I guess the thing is, yeah, girls will waste your time if you don't properly vet them and get rid of them if they're wasting your time.
Because I mean, there should never be a situation where...
This is my thing.
You should never be dating a girl on her terms.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Because when you date a girl on her terms, she'll do dumb shit.
Make you wait forever, three weeks, maybe.
She doesn't like you that much.
And you're able to add some kind of value that she's like, okay, I'll go out with this guy because he gets me into clubs.
Like, women are very good at picking out, like, what the guy offers in value and then, like...
I'm segregating him to that value only.
Okay, this guy gets me in clubs, so I'm going to dangle the carrot a little bit so he can get me in clubs.
This guy pays for really fancy steak dinners that I could take pictures of this nice steak spot.
I'm going to put him in that little thing.
Women compartmentalize men into situations that benefit them.
And I think as a guy, it's your job to identify, hmm, am I being compartmentalized?
Okay, I'm going to get rid of this girl, because if you're not getting her best, then you've got to throw her to the rest.
Because women are very evil individuals when they put you in a compartmentalized situation, because they're getting what they want from you, but you're not getting anything in return.
And then they have the audacity to think, well, you're being around me, as if they're special.
Or they bring something to the table, and I'll be honest with you.
I'm just keeping it up.
Most women are stupid.
If I'm going to be all the way a million, like a lot of y'all are dumb as fuck.
And what I mean by this is, I don't mean dumb as fuck as in social awareness.
Women are way smarter than men when it comes to social awareness.
But when it comes to like having real conversations about real things, about having an intellectual conversation where you're actually able to derive value in conversing with women, what I've realized is typically the more attractive she is, the stupider she is, unfortunately.
Can I ask you a question?
He's willing to make that commitment.
If she doesn't get elevated, that's her fault.
Same thing with a man.
If you want to go out on so many days with me, if you don't finish the deal, that's your fault as a man.
It's my job to fuck you.
It's your job to retain me after I fuck you.
Well, what if I want you to fuck me?
What if I want you to make love to me?
What if I want you to talk to me?
Wait, are you talking LCR? Are you talking like you're smashing?
I'm saying it's my job as a man to attain you sexually and then it's your job as the woman to retain me for a relationship.
How long do you think a woman should wait?
Wait for what?
To have sex with a man that she's dating.
Well, it depends.
It's on the girl to have critical thinking skills and be able to assess the value of that man.
How quickly can he replace her?
What's the sexual market value?
How many other women does he have?
And then come up with some kind of calculation in her mind of what's reasonable for me with this guy?
Because let's keep it a thousand.
There's some guys that will wait a week.
Some guys will wait one date, two dates.
Some guys will only wait an hour.
Do you think that she should make him wait as long as possible?
Like forever?
Well, it really depends on the guy.
It really does depend on the guy.
Because every guy is different.
And every guy has different tolerance levels to female games and shenanigans.
Some guys have some tolerance.
Some guys have no tolerance.
And it's up to the woman to figure out where that guy stands in the pecking order and act accordingly.
Because you might not have the ability or the leverage to play your games with a certain level of guy where you could have played those games with another individual.
So do you think if a woman sleeps with a man too early, do you think that's a turnoff for men?
It can hurt you.
It absolutely can hurt you.
And I think that's where the critical thinking comes in with the woman.
To figure out, okay, this guy is of this caliber.
He has this many women.
If I do sleep with him, I need to be able to add value.
The problem is this.
Girls go in, they go on a date, or they fuck him, or whatever it is, and they don't add no value.
They think, I'm pretty, I'm just going to show up, sit on a date, be boring as fuck, be stupid as fuck, not add to the conversation, and...
But what if that's not you?
What if you're a woman who does add to the conversation?
What if you're a woman who is capable of having intelligent discourse?
Fantastic, you're a minority.
Okay, so then in that case, how long would you wait for a woman like that?
That's actually intelligent, can have intellectual discourse with you, and adds value to the time that you are spending together.
How long would I wait?
Maybe one or two dates?
But it depends on the girl.
It changes, you know what I mean?
Like, it really changes.
Like, How much value does she really add?
How high is she really?
You know what I mean?
The more I have to tolerate, the less I'm going to deal with it.
You know what I mean?
Can I ask another question to pivot off of that?
Most girls are dumb, dude.
I'm just going to be honest.
I feel the same way about men, so I think we actually have a lot in common.
Fair.
There are a lot of stupid guys, but women get away with being stupid far longer than men do.
Women don't have to be competent.
Men do.
Successful men that are attractive.
In order to mate with somebody, is that what you mean?
Yes.
Okay, well, what if that's not your objective?
What if that's not your goal as a woman?
To mate and have somebody have a partner?
No, no, I'm saying as a man, you have to be competent.
As a woman, you don't.
But I'm saying, as a woman, if your objective is not to find a mate, then you do have to be competent, correct?
Because you have to do it on your own.
If your objective is to find a mate.
No, no, no.
My objective is, hypothetically speaking, not to find a mate.
Okay.
Then you do have to be competent.
You're going against your biology, then.
Okay.
Okay, and so is a man who decides not to be with women.
There are plenty of men who decide to be single, men who die single.
Okay.
The difference is that men create excess resources and success so they're attractive to women.
Right?
Like a man can go ahead and mate later on in life.
Matter of fact, men don't get their value until later on in life.
Women are on a time clock, though.
Like, if you don't mate at your peak, you're fucked.
But what if that's not my goal?
What if my goal is to make money and support myself?
I'd argue that's a misled goal.
Oh, wow.
That's a personal opinion.
I think, too.
And also, how would that be misled if my ability to, my potential, my earning potential, my resource potential is such a short time period?
Then why would I invest all of my time and energy into being valuable for only that short amount of time when I could take that energy and invest it into being confident and a long-term earner for myself?
Let's go.
Okay, how about this?
Let's go into deductive problem solving.
Okay?
Yep.
What are human beings put on Earth to do?
That's a very personal, spiritual question.
In general, what are human beings put on Earth to do?
Outside of spirituality and all the other cuckoo manga, jungle stuff that people have.
Pay bills and die.
Okay.
That's your answer.
Pay bills and die.
What about you?
What do you think?
What are human beings put on Earth to do?
To reproduce.
Okay.
What about you?
What do you think?
Reproduce?
Reproduce.
Okay.
What's your answer now?
I would say, like, add to humanity.
Add to humanity.
I mean, I would say that's what animals are put on Earth to do.
I'm not reducing myself to that standard.
I also think that, like, overpopulation is a real fucking issue, so...
Okay.
Outside of that opinion, the reality is the fact is human beings are put on Earth to reproduce.
So what if reproduction becomes...
Not optimal for just humanity as a whole.
Like, what if reproduction is actually hurting us as humanity?
There is enough land mass for us to house more people.
Just resources would be on some level an issue.
However, we can handle it.
I think, I mean, the statistics don't look good.
I mean, in terms of our food production, agriculturally, like...
We already are struggling to feed the people that are on Earth as it is.
Okay.
Modern conventions don't necessarily align with hardwired biological traits.
So then at that point, should we not reconsider our objectives?
You're a successful, strong woman, correct?
Make your money?
Yeah.
Would you prefer a man that's taller than you?
Yeah.
Would you prefer a man that's stronger than you physically?
Yeah.
Would you prefer a man that earns more money than you?
Yeah.
Would you prefer a man that's smarter than you?
Yeah.
Would it be fair to say that these ones that you have are hardwired into you?
No.
They are.
That's where you're wrong.
Stop, stop, stop.
They are.
That is what women are attracted to.
Every other female here at the table wants that as well.
This goes into the fallacy that I talk about that women think that they're special.
What you're attracted to is universal across all different demographics, all different religions, etc.
In general, women want a man who's better than them in every regard.
This is what I mean.
And think about this.
We live in a very safe world, right?
Police, the military, etc.
You make your own money.
You can provide your own security.
You can provide all the things that a man can provide to you, correct?
But why do you still want a man that's better than you in every regard?
Well, I mean, may I ask a question conversely?
Please answer the question.
You see where I'm going here.
But I would say that you're talking about preferences, right?
That is not ultimately what you make your decisions based on.
You don't make your decisions based on preferences.
You make it based on experience, right?
And so what if you have two women?
One of them is more beautiful, but the other one you think is going to be a better wife and a mother.
So which one are you going to choose to mate with?
Men and women have different preferences.
You just deflected what I'm trying to say.
What I'm simply saying here, right?
Because you made the argument of like, oh, the world population, overpopulation, blah, blah, blah, right?
Going back to that, modern conventions don't change biological hardwiring.
You have security, you have police, you don't need a man, you make your own money, you're successful, etc.
You have your own degree, yet you still want a man that's better than you.
Modern conventions 100% alter your primal Instincts.
No, they do not.
Yes, I do.
You can't just go out and murder somebody because they piss you off.
No, they do not.
You just literally contradicted yourself.
They do not.
Because I literally asked you, if given the option and your preferences, you still wanted a man from a hardwiring, primal perspective to be better than you in every regard, despite the fact that you have security, lighting, power, everything, all the modern conveniences where you effectively do not need a man.
However...
If given to your own devices, what do you do?
You want a man who's better than you in every regard.
That's what I mean when I say it always comes back to your primal instance.
I don't equate being taller or physically stronger than me as being better than me.
What?
By definition, it is better than you.
No, it's not.
What?
Because I can provide something that you can't.
You want children, right?
But attributes that are on you, not action from you.
So it's on you.
So by definition, if I'm taller or bigger than you, I'm better than you.
Better than me at what?
Protecting you.
When I went through the entire list, I said competence, confidence, height, strength, etc.
I didn't say competence.
Hey, Myron, how tall are you?
I'm 6'3", but that's irrelevant.
I know, but I'm 5'1", so therefore you're not better than me, bro.
By your logic, you're saying that he's...
You compare us both, if we're to duke it out, he's going to pummel my ass.
I don't think that that necessarily means better.
I think that's a really generalized term.
Stronger could beat my ass.
Yeah, 100%.
This is crazy.
Look, look, look.
I need you to apply some critical thinking skills and get out of your feelings for two seconds.
On paper, everything I described in a man, you want to be better than yourself.
He must exceed you in every attribute that I just mentioned.
I didn't say that's a must.
I didn't say that's a necessity.
You said preferences.
Yes.
Would you like a woman who makes more money than you?
No.
And do you want a woman who's hotter than you?
Do you want a woman who...
But beauty has nothing to do with that.
You're talking about physical standards, right?
Yeah, but...
So the taller, stronger, beautiful...
We're digressing from this.
We're digressing from this.
This all started, right?
Because you said...
I asked you first, why are human beings put on Earth?
All the other girls...
To understand that it's to reproduce.
I think that's an oversimplification.
You're saying that it's not.
I'm telling you that it is.
Because what I'm saying is that you think, well, no, it's not to reproduce because the world is changing.
There's too many people anyway.
Blah, blah, blah.
And my argument to that is primal urges override modern conventions.
If that was true, then they would...
That your attraction triggers are primal.
You want a man that's better than you, despite the fact that you have all the security, all the ability to fend for yourself, etc., but you still want a man better than you.
Why is that?
Because primal urges always outweigh modern conventions.
So, that was to defeat your argument that, oh, but the world's being overpopulated.
That's irrelevant, because human beings are still put on Earth to reproduce.
Now, let me continue on before you try to divert the conversation.
We're staying very focused here.
Okay.
So that's what I'm trying to say.
Human beings are put on earth to procreate, period.
There's a reason why when you're injured, you have these mechanisms to recover, etc.
There's a reason why the male sex urge is so strong.
There's a reason why once a woman hits a certain age, she starts to get baby rabies.
These are naturally put in us because it's to continue the lineage, continue the human race.
That's what we're put on earth to do, period.
That's not up for debate.
That's what human beings are here to do, create offspring.
Now, with that said, now that we've established that human beings are put here to create offspring, okay?
What will increase a woman's likelihood of mating?
I mean, I don't agree with your initial statement.
You don't have to agree with a fact but that is a fact.
Because you said modern convention does not outweigh primal urges, then how does law and order exist at all?
Why are there people who are gay?
Why are there people who literally are not attracted to, cannot get it up for a woman?
Yeah, but those are still the minorities.
That's a gross...
The homosexual population is like 1 or 2%.
I'm talking about the overwhelming majority.
Listen, you're trying to take away...
This is a fact.
Human beings are put on earth to procreate.
That's how it's been since the beginning of time.
Then why are there so many humans that don't procreate?
Because they can't.
They're still a minority.
Can I tell you something that happened to me?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Like, 80-90% of women...
And are still happy.
They're still fulfilled human beings, and they don't have to procreate.
Okay, look, look.
Women...
80-90% of women since the beginning of time have procreated.
About 40% of men have.
Okay.
So...
What I'm saying is that men don't have the same ability to procreate, but they want to procreate.
There's a reason why the male sex urge is so strong and baby rabies is a real thing for women.
And so what is the point you're trying to draw from that?
That human beings are put on earth to procreate.
I just still disagree.
You don't have to disagree.
Because there are human beings that exist on Earth and are still fulfilled human beings that do not procreate.
That's the minority.
Most women...
You can't just brush over the minority.
I'm 32 years old.
Two years ago, I didn't want to have kids.
I didn't want to have kids.
Two years ago, I started to want to have kids.
That's what I'm trying to say.
My entire life, I did not want to have children.
30 hit, baby rabies is a real thing.
I didn't know I was going to have it, and now I have it.
This is what I mean.
And I don't say this to just give him kudos.
I'm saying this because I love and adore you and you don't realize yet that what he's saying, he's trying to put you on.
He's not trying to hurt you or attack you or condemn you.
He's trying to get you to open your eyes because us women, like she said earlier, we have so many emotions.
We can't see clearly and we can't self-regulate our emotions.
We actually look at men to try and make us feel a type of way.
That's why we fall for stupid shit.
But if you actually self-regulate your emotions, you'll understand what he's saying.
Baby rabies is a...
It's a real thing.
I didn't know I was going to look a bit.
Now I see babies, I'm like, a baby!
I also think that wanting to be a mother is something very different from wanting to procreate.
You can still be a mother, you can adopt children.
If I can't have children and I adopt, that's still procreating.
The motherly instinct comes from the process of procreation.
Adopting children is a modern adaptation to the need to procreate when a woman does not have the ability to facilitate herself.
If a woman was given two options, your own child or adopting, 99% of women would prefer their own child.
Please exercise some critical thinking.
Human beings are put on the earth to procreate.
That's a fact, okay?
That's a fact.
Now, I don't care what you agree with and what you don't.
That's a fact.
That's biology.
That's human beings.
Period.
Okay?
Now, two different things, right?
What do women need to do to procreate?
Have sex.
No, no, no.
But besides that, what increases their chances of procreating?
Flirt.
Makeup!
Talk to man.
Look at pretty.
Kiss.
Be attractive, correct?
Would it be fair to say that a woman's primary agency is her beauty?
You said this earlier.
You're right.
Right?
I'd say culturally that's what we are learning to equate our value to, yes.
Okay, so the answer is yes.
Yes.
Now, what does a man need to do to procreate?
Be a man.
Have status.
Have status.
Have money.
Be able to come.
Have potent sperm.
No, it is.
Don't put your laptop on your laptop.
No, it's creating excess resources, being strong, being a leader of men, being dominant, being aggressive, being able to protect yet still provide.
Being able to procreate for a man, you need to have a bunch of things in place, correct?
I know a lot of baby daddies who have none of that in place But those are women who fall for men's lives Again For the optimal Situation To get the best woman for him Okay You do realize, right, that we live in the United States, right?
Last time I checked.
Yes.
So what if I said, what if you said, world hunger exists, and I said, no it doesn't, because I know everyone I know eats food.
Wouldn't I sound stupid?
And what is you trying to equate that to?
To your statement that you just made now.
I know a bunch of baby daddies that fuck.
That's retarded.
That does not change.
That does not refute the fact.
Just because your friends eat around you does not mean that world hunger does not necessarily exist.
In other words, the world is much bigger than your own personal experiences or people that you know anecdotally.
Okay, so let's talk statistically.
Let's talk about statistically how many men are low income men.
You know, actually, it's actually much more common for men who are of low income status to have multiple children.
With multiple different women.
You're missing the point and you're diverting the conversation into a nonsense proportion.
No, because you're saying that's what a man needs to be able to procreate is to have money, success, confidence.
No, because there's lots of men who are literally the lowest income bracket who have multiple children with multiple women.
It increases a man's likelihood of mating when he has these things in place, okay?
Just like a woman that's attractive Is able to increase her likelihood of getting a higher status mate by being more pretty.
I'm not saying that ugly women can't mate and loser men can't mate.
However, your chances go up significantly the more beautiful you are as a woman and the higher status you are as a man.
So now are we talking about mating or procreating?
It's the same thing.
No, it's not.
Because lots of men procreate with multiple women without ever mating with them.
Without ever actually having a relationship.
Select men.
And it's one man for multiple women.
Once again, just because contraception exists now does not mean that you're not hardwired to look for certain things in the opposite gender.
Contraception is a relatively new thing.
But before, women had to be more selective.
Well, even now, women are still fairly selective on who they have sex with because being pregnant is an invasive thing that's very laborious for a woman.
The mating process for a woman has more risks than for a man.
Yeah, but some people stand to gain financially from having children, especially women.
Oh God.
I love you.
I love that you stand on your shit.
Let me go.
No, no, no.
She's just dumb.
If I'm going to be 100% respectful, she's lacking critical thinking skills.
You're just mad because I've had a contradiction to every single thing that you've said.
An accurate one.
Something that actually has basis.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What you've done, basically, is you say, oh, well, let me deflect the argument on something that is a minority, an exception to the rule, or I've experienced myself.
Because you are overgeneralizing.
The world operates on generalities.
That's not critical thinking, bro.
No, no, no, no, no.
Generalizing all your statements is not critical thinking.
It's absolutely critical thinking.
No, it's not.
Because you're able to look outside of your own individual situation and look at how the world really works.
If you're looking outside of your own individual situation, you should be able to say, okay, well, not everybody.
I'm not generalizing.
There are people who are not like that.
But that's a minority.
I'm talking about the world operates on generalities.
Are you a minority?
I'm just asking.
Are you a minority?
Yes, I'm a minority.
Would you appreciate if people completely overlooked you whenever they're making generalized statements?
What are you saying?
I'm saying, as someone who's a minority, would you stand here quietly while somebody made incredibly generalized statements and that did not include you?
The world operates on generalities.
Not true.
The world operates on exceptions just as much as it does generalities.
That's how the exceptional are created.
Look, man.
If you don't understand that the world operates on generalities, Then we can't even have a discussion because you're too low IQ to understand how the world really works.
The world doesn't work on exceptions.
If the world worked on exceptions, there'd be braille everywhere because, hey man, blind people are my...
There is braille everywhere, you fucking idiot.
No, it's not.
There's braille on every single elevator.
It's not every single building.
It's not everywhere.
And then is it everywhere in the United States?
Is it everywhere else in the world?
It's not everywhere.
It's not everywhere.
Certain buildings might have it, but not every single building has rail.
You know the shit on a fucking sidewalk before you hit the crosswalk where it's bumpy?
That's for blind people.
It's at every single crosswalk you go to.
But is that everywhere?
Yes.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
Go to any fucking crosswalk in the city.
They all have it.
Are handicap reps everywhere?
They have to be.
If you have a public place, if you have a business, a place of business, it has to be handicap accessible.
It's not everywhere, though.
If you have a place of business.
No, it's not.
It has to be a certain square footage and applied to certain ordinances, but it's not always required, is my point.
The world operates on generalities.
There's steps.
There's not handicapped rails everywhere.
There's not handicapped bathrooms everywhere.
That's what I'm trying to say.
The world is not made for exceptions to the rule.
The world is made for generalities.
I mean, by your definition, the chair you're sitting in right now, let's say people are 400 pounds, that's not made for them.
Where's their chairs?
Generally, it's people that are a certain weight.
Okay, but so, to say, like, if I wanted to come here and it was not handicap accessible, I could sue you, right?
No.
It's not a public place.
No, you would not be invited at all.
You're fat.
Don't come on to a show.
Anyway, let me go back, because I'm just going to explain this, because I'm not going to...
I'm going to finish explaining this, and then you can go ahead and make whatever nonsensical argument you want to make.
The point I'm trying to make, right, is that human beings are put on earth to procreate.
So therefore, since human beings are put on earth to procreate, what increases your chances of procreating for the two genders?
As a woman, be more beautiful.
As a man, acquire more resources.
So, it would behoove you to do what's in your best interest to procreate.
For a man, acquire more resources.
For a woman, be more pretty.
Fantastic.
Now, here's the thing, right?
As a woman, acquiring resources and money, that's cool, but does it necessarily increase your chances of procreating?
Not to the same degree as it would for a man acquiring resources and status.
Same thing.
If I'm a guy, and I'm attractive to a degree, I'm handsome, right, and I prioritize that, that's cool, but is it going to increase my chances of procreating at the same level as if I chase resources?
No, it won't, because women don't value beauty as much as men value beauty in women.
That's all I'm trying to say.
A very handsome broke man is the functional equivalent to a very successful woman that isn't that attractive.
Both genders don't give a fuck about the other commodity that the other one has because men and women look for different things.
So going back to completely bring this full circle because you're not a critical thinker.
You said, I'm going to chase status and money, etc.
Fantastic.
But it does not help your bottom line of being able to procreate.
Now let's go a step further.
I didn't say that I was going to chase status and money.
You said it was at my preference.
I said, yes.
That doesn't mean that's what I'm going after and what I'm chasing.
That's quite literally what you said because you said, I'm getting money so I can create my own security.
And I said, cool.
However, you have a finite amount of time to do that because you're 29 now, correct?
No.
How old are you?
26.
26.
Okay.
So...
You have a finite amount of time, right, to find a man when you're at your peak.
I would argue at this point, you're beyond your peak.
18 to 24 is what men typically want in women, statistically speaking.
That's what they want.
What'd you get with an 18-year-old?
Stop interrupting.
What'd you get with an 18-year-old?
Yeah, sure.
Why not?
How old are you?
I'm 33.
Anyway, so going back to what I was saying, right?
Besides, we're trying to shame because women will gladly date a man that's 20 years older than them and not bad at night.
But then if I say, okay, I'll date a girl that's 15 years younger than me, that's the problem.
Anyway, going back to what I was saying.
So, So women have a finite amount of time to find a mate when they're at their peak.
So what I argue is that chasing resources as a female is counterproductive to being able to find a man because you make more money, you get more status, and then you ostracize yourself from the very men, right, that you think that you qualify for because they don't give a fuck about your status or your money.
I don't need a man to procreate, number one.
I can create my own resources and never get there.
You absolutely do need a man to procreate.
No.
Hence, procreation is two individuals.
Ever heard of a test tube baby?
Ever heard of lesbians?
Again, a modern convention to solve an old world.
What are you doing?
Why are you taking my chair?
That's a modern solution for an old world problem.
Like I said before.
Yeah, but I'm just saying that.
That's cool.
You could come up with that solution, but most normal women want to have a man by their side and have a family with that man.
They don't want to have a test tube shoved in their vagina, have a child artificially without a man there.
You cannot apply your nonsensical worldview on a majority of women who would not want that.
Most women would not want to chase a career, not want to make a bunch of money, not ostracize themselves out of the sexual marketplace.
They want a man that's successful, that can take care of them.
That's what they want.
And if they have to get a career to do it, they'll do it to a degree.
But at the end of the day, we've proven that already.
Women will leave the workforce if the man is right.
So is it really in a woman's best interest to chase a career and status when the bottom line is to procreate with the highest status man that you can get?
No.
No, this all flew over your head because you're dumb.
If you're going to call me dumb, I'm going to stand the fuck up and walk out.
You are dumb.
You are literally dumb.
We need to go back to telling people that they're dumb.
Goddamn, it took you like what?
Three hours?
Holy shit.
What, two hours?
No, she is dumb.
We need to go back to telling women they're dumb.
I don't know what you're doing, adjusting yourself on camera.
Just leave.
Just leave.
Just fucking leave.
You embarrass yourself in front of 30,000 people.
I don't know what she's trying to do with this mic.
I don't know what she's trying to do either.
Can you stop fucking talking, dude?
No, I'm not rude as fuck.
I just have a low tolerance for stupidity, which you've been exhibiting a bunch of.
That's what it is.
We need to go back to telling people that they're stupid.
You are very low IQ. You don't have critical thinking skills.
You've been diverting the arguments.
You've been arguing in bad faith and I'm calling you out on it.
You're stupid.
Okay?
That's literally what it is.
You are stupid.
That's a great argument.
I think we've proven that now over the course of a few hours that you are in fact stupid.
Put your shoes on outside.
You are low IQ. That is what it is.
We just need to go back to telling people they're dumb.
Alright, she's gone.
Alright, thank God, man.
It only took two hours, right?
Yeah, I mean, dude, arguing in that face, whatever.
I think she...
Whatever.
Bro, that was painful.
You did...
Dude, you leave too.
Get the fuck out of here, man.
Holy shit.
Just leave.
Just leave.
You're a clown.
Just leave.
Yes, you.
Yeah.
Incredible.
Oh my god, dude.
Bro, just leave.
Okay, Danny, I'll leave.
Yes, leave.
Shit.
What is she on?
Bro, she on drugs or some shit, bro.
Did she pop the molly before the show or something, bro?
I don't know what she's on, bro.
I'm all-ass sweating.
Woo!
Dog.
Can you record her, please?
Alright, cool.
Make sure I can't see from here.
Nigga, bitch is on some shit, man.
Like, what the fuck is going on?
I feel like you guys didn't get to talk that much.
It's just like, damn, like, holy shit, dude.
Embarrass me, man.
Like, bro, this is what I'm trying to say.
Like, yo, there's literally girls out there in the world that, like, this bitch had a degree.
This one over here is like, what the...
Well, she's a rocker too, so I mean, that kind of...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
But she has the green!
Like, what the fuck is going on?
Like, bro.
Holy shit.
Yo, yo, just put your shoes on outside.
Take your bag, take your phone, put your shoes on outside.
Alright?
Like, just put them on outside.
The classic line.
Put your shoes on outside.
Like, you're creating a scene for no reason.
You're just making yourself look foolish.
Take your bag.
Take your phone.
Put your shoes on outside.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
No, you're gonna put your shoes outside.
Okay.
In the fucking clown world.
I'm gonna put my shoes inside.
That's your last act of defiance.
Making yourself look stupid.
Here, look.
I'm trying to give you a tidbit here.
We're going to record your dumbass and put you on locals.
You look stupider when you sit in the apartment.
Bro, that's why black women are the lowest on the dating totem pole, bro.
This is the truth, bro.
They literally get the lowest rating on dating apps and that's a fucking fact because of fuckery like that.
Anyway.
It's always our black queens, man.
Always embarrassed.
Hey, we got a white chick.
Hey, equal opportunity, bruh.
Both.
Yeah, we kicked both out.
Okay, so back to the regular programming.
Yeah, man.
Holy shit.
We got some rumble rancers.
The white chicks are delusional as fuck and dumb, and then the black chicks just don't want to leave.
I just feel bad for girls because they couldn't really talk that much, but I mean, we'll give a chance now.
Now that they're gone, yeah, let's get their thoughts on the situation.
What are your thoughts on that situation?
Keep it a thousand.
You want to talk?
Honestly, that was really crazy.
What was?
Because her speaking about all the minorities, it's not really valid because it's a less percentage.
Talking about, in general, a majority of people.
Let's say that everybody here wants to go ahead and be in a race, right?
And there's someone with a disability.
Oh, but they should have one for them.
Like, have people pull them on a wheelchair.
That's the only person that has a disability.
Right.
That's a good point.
What are your thoughts on this?
The same as her.
I mean, I get it.
It's just she's really young.
She's like 26 and she doesn't...
That's not young.
It's not young at all.
It's young...
Then it goes...
I'm trying to be nice!
I'm trying to be nice if he gets too young, you know?
Yeah, but being nice and being honest...
You need to go back to bullying, I think.
If she had a brother that told her, you're fucking dumb.
She would have been like, hmm, you know what?
Maybe let me think twice.
But, eh.
I think no one's never told her that.
A brother or a dad.
Yo, you can tell the girls that have a father figure in their life.
I think she's taking it too personal.
Because she kept making, like, more emotional.
I think she wants to prove it yourself, you know?
And you want to prove it all the time.
And she wants to say, I'm good, I'm amazing.
When you try to do that, she wants to say all the time, say, I know that I'm intelligent, I'm smart, I know everything about the life.
I think she wants to prove it all the time.
I think it was very much like a stereotypical woman.
Like, she has to be right.
It was very emotional.
When she got defensive, she started calling you like a fucking bitch.
That's why I was saying emotion.
Yeah, she was showing emotion.
All the arguments were emotional.
Instead of facts and statistics, they're like general.
She needs to go to therapists.
Well, she did say she was dealing with therapy.
What about you?
Thoughts on this?
The mic is muted.
What was that?
I don't think she really understands you clearly.
In a way, because when you were talking, I understood you.
But she kept, like, coming back.
She had to be right.
She couldn't lose the argument.
A lot of the times, she wanted to, you know, be control of what he talked about.
That's it.
This is the point.
If he said something right, she wanted to say control.
If she said something bad, she wanted to...
Yeah, this is the point.
It doesn't matter what he Yeah, so she's moving the goalposts each time he would give a point to change her argument.
It was in general.
It would, like, towards her.
He kept saying general.
Well, she's gone now.
The fuck y'all niggas going back over there, man?
Fix the cameras.
Behind the scenes, guys.
Come on, man.
Get with it.
Okay.
We do a lot.
Alright, let's go.
Come on, man.
Stop with the fucking excuses.
Fix the fucking cameras.
Get the shit going.
Yeah, yeah.
It's fine.
It's fine.
We got it.
We got it.
Anyway.
Yes, we heard the thoughts on this whole debacle here.
All right, some more chats?
Oh my god, man.
Okay, you want to...
All right, let's go.
Cam?
Ladies, best way to know you have a command is if you're...
We did that one, right, Chris?
Marcus Brown.
Evening FNF. I want to say I appreciate all the effort you put into this.
I've learned so much from many angles.
I'll be laying off the internet for a while and officially start focusing more on pursuing excellence.
We'll soon be back for more content.
I shout out to you, bro.
Heck yeah.
Alright.
IRS. I shouldn't have to say it like multiple times.
Get the shit done, man.
Get the fucking shit done.
There's like four of y'all back over there.
Get the shit done.
Ladies, what is the most lucrative asset to invest your money into?
Real quick, what would that be for you?
What is the most lucrative asset to invest your money into?
Myself.
Okay, for you.
Can I say again?
Define lucrative.
So, if you have money to invest into, I guess, like an asset, like something to make you more money, what would it be?
Oh my god.
Okay.
Okay, so money to put into making more money.
Invest.
Okay, invest in my education.
Education?
Yeah, all the time I spend a lot of money in my study and things like that.
Okay, and for you?
The one where like you invest in that mutual fund investment and those people invest for you.
I'd invest like a couple, a few hundred a month.
Start market then.
Yeah.
Okay.
But someone would do it for me because I don't understand it good enough.
So you pay someone to manage it for you?
Yeah, like the fund you open in banks, the mutual investment fund, wealth managers.
Pretty much.
That thing, yeah.
Okay.
And for you?
Bitcoin's taking over South America a lot.
They have ATMs and it'd probably go into gold too.
Which coin would you invest in, you would say?
Literally Bitcoin.
The ATMs are all across South America.
Bitcoin ATMs are everywhere.
Mexico, Brazil, Argentina.
That's actually a pretty good investment.
Yeah, and gold because, you know, crypto.
W for knowing that.
I would say the same in Forex.
Forex?
Okay.
That's a skill you gotta learn to trade Forex.
It's a different animal.
That's a long time.
Okay.
Not bad.
Chris, you got some more?
As legendary pimp IcebergSlim once said, chumps prefer beautiful lies to ugly truth.
Keep on doing the Lord's Word FNF. Get the truth into these hard-headed ladies' heads.
I think they get, for the most part, these ladies here have it on down pack.
And then 15 out, Chris?
Yep.
Okay.
TJ King says, ladies, if you're able to, would you steal your dream man from the woman he's married to?
Damn.
That's not bad at all.
Okay.
Hypothetical because obviously you're married now.
Let's say your man you're married to now isn't married to you.
Would you steal him from somebody else to get your dream man?
I wouldn't.
Why?
Because I wouldn't want it to be done to me if I was in that position.
Okay.
Turn your other cheek.
What about you?
I had the opportunity, I didn't.
For the same reason, I believe in karma, and it comes back.
Was he coming on to you?
Yeah, 100%.
Dream guy.
Everything, but no.
Damn.
For you?
No, I would not do that.
Same thing she said, I believe in karma also.
Is karma real, though?
For women, we believe that.
As above, so below.
At least good women.
That's a big thing.
Bad women will be like...
Oh, it's the energy.
It's the flow.
It's this.
It's okay.
They make a lot of excuses.
Good women will say, I don't want that.
No, no, no.
We're scared.
We know we've seen it too many times where it comes back to the woman.
And people think about karma as like an individual thing.
No.
Think about your mother when she gets something wrong with her.
Think about your father.
Think about your brother.
Think about your children.
The karma doesn't just stay with you.
It stays...
I'm also like Latina.
So it's like, it doesn't just stay with you.
It stays with...
You and the people you love.
Because when they get hurt, and I've seen it where I've done something stupid, and my mom will get hurt, and I'll be like, I did that.
I feel that.
You know what I mean?
You're correlating that to her life from your actions.
As a Latina, this is the way that we think.
This is the way that we're brought up.
I'm also American.
The term of karma...
Who came up with the idea?
Nobody knows.
But if you believe because it's told to you from your parents...
Well, actually, you look through Indian culture.
It got traveled from India to Latin America, too.
I looked it up because I was wondering the same thing.
And I'm like, I was trying to defeat my self-limiting belief of karma.
But who told the Indians that karma was a real thing?
Well, there's no time limit before the Indians and India.
But that's my whole point here.
The whole concept of karma is not a real thing.
Technically, yeah.
But we create it in our head saying it's real, which I think is a great thing because for women, they don't have anything to keep them accountable.
So karma at least can do that for her.
And that's why I play out the tape, because I'm like, okay, hypothetically, who told them?
Does it matter?
At least it gives some women in check.
That's the way that I look at it.
That's why I like it.
And the girlfriends, like me and her, I'm like, yo, fresh and frip, bringing together ladies.
Me and her both moved to Miami a week ago, and we can...
Instantly, like, I see you're a good woman.
I see that if I have success, you're not going to hate me.
I see that if I get married, you're not going to try and take my man.
I see that these are things that women also pay attention to, to other women.
And that's when I give guys advice.
It's the same thing.
I have seen how women are towards me.
I give them the, like, little tink-a-tink of, like, this is how you can tell a woman is about you.
So, like, if you go to sleep and a woman isn't, like, tell me this.
If you love a man, you're not going to be, like...
Yeah.
Okay.
And if she's not like that in her sleep, like, figure it out.
I usually, like, I like to believe action, so if he's gonna leave me, like, if he's gonna leave the girl for me, I'm not gonna not think he's not gonna do that to me.
Does that make sense?
So because he will leave her for you, you would, like, so, you know, because...
So, like, let's say, like, another woman is showing attention, he leaves the woman he's currently with to go with me.
What makes, like, a prettier and younger girl is gonna come around and take him?
Okay.
And for you?
You know, I don't hang out with the guys that already engage with another girl.
So when I saw the thing like that, I prefer them stay together because the same thing the guys do with the girls, you do with me, lady.
It's the pattern, you know?
So they're going to repeat that pattern and do it to you as well?
Yeah.
Okay.
Any last qualities?
No.
Why?
Because the same way you get them, the same way you lose them.
Okay.
All right.
Your answer's there.
I mean, Dania.
Shout out to FNF for always bringing their fire day shows and revealing gems.
Talking to the 304s at night.
Salute and get them likes up, lover lovers.
Shout out to y'all.
And it's last for you, Chris.
Yep.
One second.
Today I closed on a $3 million sale.
Shout out to you.
Biggest step in my life.
Feel free to share this with your podcast because you've been a great motivation and factor in this success.
Love you all.
Keep up the great work.
Shout out to you.
And then Sambar Rectum says, question for ladies.
If you have the male best friend that's a virgin or that's just not able to play, will you help him out by letting him hit...
Okay, so if you find a guy that's legit your male best friend, and he's a virgin, would you give him some sympathy pussy, I guess?
Would you?
No.
Would you?
No.
Would you?
No.
Let's hear it, guys.
No best friends.
It doesn't work.
Fresh is a balls.
You're going to need more than that fake BBC. You can keep on your nightstand to satisfy your needs.
Renata, you're coming with us.
First, Komodo, then the koozie at the crib and some bedroom fun.
Fresh is a big guy, so please use two hands.
Ah!
Sorry.
No, no.
Hope the old bitch next to Fresh doesn't take over the show.
She did, bro.
But now she's gone.
Thank God.
Nick K says, this chick next to Fresh makes people wait forever to smash because no one will put up with her for more than 10 minutes.
And the woman next to Myron is white.
We don't dabble in the dark.
Last one here.
Rolling Zuko says, 70% of the 20% of Mirage's left is far less than 80% of 100%.
Okay.
And the Rumble Rants?
Yeah, we got 20 of them out.
On Rumble?
Yeah.
Cool.
Okay.
City Boy Farmer says Myron took Black Pill Granny out to dinner in Ball Harbor last fall when she had a boyfriend.
They're all the same, bro.
You know City Boy Farmer?
Hey, Daddy.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So you cheat on your man with him?
No, man.
I wouldn't cheat.
I don't cheat either.
You're all the same.
I mean yellow.
Whatever.
Whatever you think.
It's your opinion.
I don't care.
That's what you're saying right there.
I love you.
Rhodey says, yo, whose message is this?
Freshina on that shit.
It's just wilding, bro.
Okay, ladies.
This part of the show here is where it's more fun, more intensive.
You can talk a little bit more to as well.
Questions, comments, statements about for us, dating, whatever you want to talk about, we can handle here.
Any questions, comments?
For you guys?
Yeah, for us.
Okay, let me think.
I want to wait last.
Anybody?
You guys have a girlfriend?
You're single?
Well, I'm single.
You're single?
Yeah.
I have multiple ladies.
Multiple.
Okay.
I don't know what it is, okay?
three four girls oh yeah it's okay he for the streets the girls doesn't matter about that was that you have three girls i mean maybe but if the girls doesn't matter about that i'm honest about it i'm not gonna have one girlfriend oh but the girls will stay together for you you know it's okay don't care yeah i'm not gonna have one girl No, no.
They know.
He tells them.
It's okay for the girls.
He doesn't keep it a secret.
Okay.
If they didn't know, I don't think.
I never heard that.
For me, the thing is new.
That's what she was thinking.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't think having one girlfriend is...
No guy really wants to do that.
Most guys do that because they have to.
Okay.
I tried it.
It don't work.
Everybody's agree.
It's okay.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, I think you should be honest.
If the girls, it's okay.
No, no, she can't have, no.
She has clothes on their end.
They're closed, I'm open.
Oh, you can't say if you forget about the girl again?
Oh, absolutely not.
Why?
Because I don't date hoes.
Okay.
Hold on, do you want more than one guy?
No, I don't have a guy now, so...
No, no, but do you want like two, three guys?
If I'm single, it's okay.
Let's say you have a man.
Do you want two, three, four men that are your boyfriend?
That's not.
That's the thing.
Us guys, we want that.
We want multiple girlfriends.
No, my question is if the girls are okay for the girls.
He has a lot of different girls.
Like the girls don't care?
Yeah, the girls don't care about that.
Yeah, he's honest about it.
He's telling them so they know.
If the girls are okay?
Yeah.
She's like, wait, what?
Not Brazil.
You know, I'm from Brazil.
This is not normal, you know?
Okay, and Josie, you said you want to ask her?
I'm just scared about that.
Okay.
Any more questions, ladies?
What do you guys think about game?
Game?
In terms of, like, dating?
Yeah, like, do you think it's, like, a real thing or do you see it as manipulation?
Because, like, I think people are so sensitive about manipulation.
They're like...
I think game for me just means that I understand what I want in a scenario and I'm able to say, okay, I know what she wants as well and I can bring both to the table and make a connection there.
I think that's what game means to me.
I like that!
I don't think that's what game means to everybody.
No, I mean, it's like interpret game because, for example, game can mean either some tactics to get what you want or, for example, building a connection.
But I think for me, that's what that means.
I'm sorry.
I had a question earlier.
We were talking about the value that a woman can bring to a relationship.
That was going to be my question.
You guys were talking about earlier, if you're assessing a woman that can bring value to a relationship or be valuable and significant enough for a long-term relationship, what kind of value are guys looking for?
You can take a question.
So, I think guys are looking for someone that's going to be loyal, one, not a hoe.
Number two, she's actually going to have value for his life.
For example, she's going to help his business, help him with his work, and not be annoying.
And then three, she's actually going to be, on some level, able to say, you know what?
My man has this lifestyle, he has this business, and I'm going to make sure I don't, in any way, take him off that path.
So, those qualities would help her become more of a valuable option.
That's what I would say.
Being an asset versus a liability.
Most girls are liabilities.
They come in and take and they don't necessarily give anything back in return and they think their presence is enough.
I'm pretty.
And that's how most girls operate.
I know.
And the thing that is the worst is the more attractive they are, the less they typically tend to bring is because they feel as though their presence is more important.
And that stems from women having an over-inflated sense of self-worth thanks to the internet.
It all builds upon itself.
Right?
And it's not until maybe they meet a guy like me and tells them you're not special or another guy that doesn't tolerate female fuckery and they'll tell them what it really is, then they kind of come to reality.
And the thing is that women are attracted to men that don't treat them like equals.
Women are attracted to men that don't treat them like equals.
Okay.
Yes.
I said yes.
I actually tweeted this yesterday.
I said you can either understand women or...
You can either understand women or you can treat them as an equal, but you can't do both.
Yeah, I agree.
I'm going to say this now that it's less chaotic.
Women don't want equality.
They disrespect men to actually give it to them is what I've realized.
Let's think about it, and we could break it down.
Like, for example, chivalry, right?
Women want chivalry.
Nothing about chivalry implies equality at all.
Agreed.
The man is leading everything.
The man is dictating everything.
He is the leader, so therefore he is the superior in that relationship.
That's what women want, however.
But if you treat them like equal, oh, let's put it down the middle.
What do you want to do?
Okay, let's make this an equal partnership.
That's why when girls like the one before said, I want a partnership, it's a lie.
Women don't want partnerships.
They want a dictatorship with a man who's willing to listen to some of the things they got to say.
But women don't really want equality.
It's the biggest lie ever.
It's a lie that feminism propagates and it's not true.
And what I always say is if you want the most attractive men that women actually want, never view women as equal.
You can either understand women or you can treat them as equal.
But if you treat them as equal, you're not going to get respected.
Unfortunately.
We had the lady right here, the young black queen.
We asked a question earlier.
If someone opened up your door, would you tell them thank you?
She said no.
No, that's entitlement.
And that's the thing where I tell guys, I'm like, you have to take a look for women that are entitled because, like you said, we have been told you deserve everything.
Yeah, and it's...
I understand it, and that's why I try and explain it that way to women.
If we, like...
My issue, okay, let me put it this way.
I don't see the things that men are going through and I see how women are reacting to it.
When we had the women's suffrage movement, the only reason that that was even viable was because we had the men's support, right?
Now we have the men having issues and the women go brouhaha.
And it's not just you guys, and it's not just the podcasting starting.
The Manosphere stuff, it started way back when, and the foundation was for men to help other men that didn't have fathers in the household.
So they didn't know how to change attire.
They didn't know how to do their taxes.
They didn't know how to do a lot of things.
And so these men would mentor them, and that's where the Manosphere came from.
Then it came from Midtown, men going their own way.
They literally said, I've had it with women and they're all delusional.
I'm done.
These are men.
Their children were taken.
Their money was taken.
They don't have anything.
Then we went into the court systems and we had red pill break off on Midtown.
Then we had black pill break off on red pill.
It's the foundation of it was because men are still unaliving themselves.
And like the only issue I have with any podcast like this, and I have a question for you guys because of this, because I also have studied people.
I study you guys, Andrew Tate, all these guys.
And you guys and Andrew Tate are the only...
Yeah.
And there's one Armenian guy.
I forgot his name.
But you guys are the only ones that I follow because when I look at when you started, I look at the history.
I know some people you used to F with that you don't anymore for good reason.
And I can see that where your standpoint is, the chat and everything, your target demographic is the young men with no fathers in the household.
You're trying to put them on game, right?
I mean, I don't think it necessarily is the father.
Because the thing is, there's a bunch of guys that have fathers in the household, but Yeah, but they weren't good dads.
It comes down to parenting.
If you have a good mom and you have a good dad, they're going to teach you the value system.
I would argue the manosphere mostly stemmed from guys' inability to get women.
It started there.
The history was starting because of the fatherless.
I'm telling you the history because I know the OG. No, you don't know the history.
Whatever you guys want.
Females, I keep it a thousand.
I don't even think y'all should be in this space.
I think most women that are in the red pillar...
You want to have a discussion with a panel full of women, but when a woman comes in here and actually knows the history and has the talking points, you don't want to have a discussion.
It's not correct, though.
But it is correct.
The Manosphere itself was created to help men become men in ways that they weren't able to, which did include dating, but it wasn't the foundation.
What was the format at the very beginning?
The Manosphere itself, the creating?
The format.
What do you mean?
What was the format for the Manosphere at the beginning?
It wasn't online, it was just networking.
Where?
In the 80s in groups, and then the PUAs were a part of it.
And then what did it turn into?
Manosphere, online, with red pill, and then black pill.
No, but what specifically?
What do you mean?
The thing that I can't say?
Like the who actually started?
No, I'm talking about, for example, what was it?
Okay, so in person, and then what was the next step of the history?
Oh, it was in meetings.
They were doing networkings, and they were doing groups, and they were having actual conventions.
After that?
And then that's when they broke off, and they started having different meetings in person in different segments, and then they went online.
I'm just going to say this.
I appreciate you and your input, but I don't think you really understand our plights, even though you try to.
But the point is, is I'm trying to.
Yeah, but you can't really, though.
You can't ever.
Absolutely!
But you guys, you, I just, the whole reason I'm saying this isn't to argue with you guys.
It's, If the women's suffrage moved because of men's support, the things that men are dealing with, like the paternity test, the court system, all of these things could move faster with more women's support.
I'm not trying to argue with you.
I'm not even trying to prove anything.
I'm just simply asking, if one plus one equals two, how can women help?
Yeah, but you're older, so...
The thing is, though, you're...
I'm 32 years old.
I'm older.
I'm not able to help.
I'm trying to be able to be a thing to talk to my sister so that they can understand.
Because the way that we talk in the manosphere of, like, you're stupid and you're dumb because you don't know the talking points, I'm trying to communicate it to the women in the language that women understand that men don't understand.
And I'm simply asking, I'm pleading with you guys to help me understand.
And instead, it's like, you shouldn't even be here.
Like, I'm trying to help.
I ain't got no gaming.
I have two businesses.
I don't have anything else.
I'm just simply asking you guys, pleading basically, how can I help?
And your simple answer is you don't belong.
You got it.
You got it.
You want to take this first?
The fact is, if you have to ask how to help, you shouldn't even be here.
I'm down.
It's ignorant.
If you have to ask how to help, you shouldn't even be here.
I'm simply asking how I can communicate this to my other girlfriends.
If you're not willing to open the door, that's called ignorance.
You guys call women ignorant all the time, but I'm here pleading with you guys.
I'm not violent.
I'm not angry at you guys.
I'm not trying to be mean.
I'm actually asking you guys how I can help, and you're telling me that I shouldn't be here.
I'm done.
Look, man, it's very simple.
Women that typically tend to come into space are grifters.
I'll just keep it a thousand.
They don't really give a shit about men's issues or anything like that.
They're just here to get some clicks and views.
We just got to keep it a thousand.
I don't think women have a place in male spaces because they don't know how to properly provide evidence.
I want assistance and advice in a meaningful way to actually help men because women don't understand the male struggle, which is cool.
I don't knock that.
But what she's saying is I want to help my girls understand and what I'm arguing is that women don't give a fuck and they're not going to understand because they don't care.
They don't need to.
Why are you going to go ahead and concede leverage when you already have it?
So, that's what it is.
I mean, I was going to tell you.
It's Griff, bro.
It's Griff.
She's 32, bro.
Women don't wake up until they got to start paying for their own drinks at the bar, man.
If you really cared that much, you would start to wear it earlier, and as well, you would give a solution right away.
But you don't have any.
You're just talking our points.
She's Griff them, bro.
And most chicks are that come into space.
It is what it is.
You know, little inconsistencies here and there.
I don't use men, blah, blah, blah, but I'm out with my promoters that all want to fuck me.
Like, come on, man.
Someone just chatted, like, you took on a date when you had a boyfriend.
You're gonna say, oh, yeah, YOLO. Yeah, man.
I mean, yeah, bro.
Again, I don't...
Just, like, I don't go into, you know, female spaces and talk about my feelings and shit like that.
I don't think women really have a place in male spaces at all.
I think they, if anything, they fuck it up.
Because they come in for their own reasons, right?
And it's soft...
There's no impact to it and there's no real energy because it's not them.
So I think it's Kat, man.
Any chick I've ever seen in this fear, bro, is a Griff, man.
Just keep it a million.
It is what it is.
She's trying to...
She got really mad about you saying that.
It's the truth, though.
Am I lying?
If you ask, you already lost.
I mean, that's kind of true.
You don't even know the issues.
Bro, legit, our plights as men, like, no offense, women don't understand.
However, it's cute that you can recite what we say online, but...
Yeah, I mean, the whole purpose of the pod is to talk, have these discussions, and just kind of reveal in 4K, feel like they really don't give a fuck.
Like, that chick don't give a fuck, bro.
She came here for clicks and clout, bro.
That's what she even said earlier in the show.
Like, And she's 32, man.
She's been ran through, man.
Yeah, man.
I'm telling y'all, bro.
Women don't wake up until they pay for their own drinks, bro.
Like, open your guys' eyes.
I know some of y'all niggas are sipping in the chat.
Oh, bro.
No, man.
Not true.
I'm telling y'all, man.
They don't give a fuck.
I'm telling y'all.
Anyway.
They don't give a fuck.
You know what I mean?
It is what it is, man.
And here's the thing.
I don't expect them to.
And y'all shouldn't expect them to either.
If you notice, right?
I was even upset, angry.
I was even hard.
I was saying, hey, here's the truth.
And she can't handle it.
How are you going to leave men?
You can't even handle that bullshit.
I just said one line.
You don't know.
You already lost.
Oh, my God.
I was even that mean.
What's that?
She's single, man.
I was chilling.
Exposure.
I was going to say you're a grifter.
I was just going to say straight up, bro, I don't trust none of y'all females that be in this space.
I know why y'all are here, bro.
I know why y'all are here.
Smart.
You know what I mean?
Watching FNF for around a year.
Growth has been insane from all the sauce.
Question for the ladies.
Notice...
No, for the fellas.
Notice that the YouTube RL was FNF Miami.
Wondering if in the future FNF will go into other cities?
I mean, we travel.
Yeah, we might.
We'll be in Columbia.
We'll be in Columbia.
Yeah, all mine needs to make a comeback.
These bitches are again too wild and disrespectful Never heard a dumb bitch call mine a bitch and not get castled revival Marin choose your path mine.
Here's the thing, bro There's a saying.
When a fool exposes himself as a fool, don't stop them.
And that girl just showed how low IQ she was, man.
And honestly, I just wanted y'all to see the stupidity, and she ended up walking off anyway, so who gives a shit?
She made herself look dumb.
Alright, so we'll get the last thoughts and comments from the ladies.
Yes, ladies.
So, last part of the show here.
Thoughts on the show?
Any more questions or comments?
Or disagreements or whatever, maybe.
Go ahead.
Very crazy.
And people don't understand you guys clearly enough.
You understand, though?
Yeah.
I listen.
I deserve.
So, I get it.
I can appreciate that.
Fair enough.
Oh, for me?
How was this show for you, from what you understood?
This is a good point, you know?
So, you know, for me, this is crazy situation because I never see that.
Isn't that your friend?
No, I know her today, but, you know, You know, everybody has their way to think about life.
You know, I'm not here for judging whether the people think is right or wrong.
For me, it's like an English class all live.
I come to here to see how I can speak English, so I try for that.
Did you understand anything that was said on the show?
No!
Okay.
I try.
I try.
I do my best.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
I'll help you along the way.
What about you?
After being here, like, more than a couple times, I used to be kind of hard-headed like that, like, wanting to be a boss bitch or whatever.
But then I've met people, like, also, I live alone.
I'm independent.
So I pay my own bills.
I pay my own things all the time.
And I guess I've realized that being independent, I do.
And I work.
It's not like I have everything handed to me.
I've realized that I would like a more traditional role.
Things like this shouldn't be taken personal when you guys are speaking in general ways.
Once they get personal, they get emotional and stuff like that.
So it's just good to listen and look at other views and put it.
Because a lot of men that I know that are of status and have money all think the same way like this.
They think women should stick to their role.
And it's like a hard pill to swallow, but it is what it is.
And they won't tell you to your face.
Yeah, it's just like you should listen to that and use it to your, not to your advantage, but like how to guide life if you know what your role is.
So it's helped me out.
Okay, that's good.
For you?
I mean, I still enjoyed my time, but it was a lot for me.
You're so quiet and just like chill.
You're like, oh my god.
What is happening?
I hate hearing women talk.
Nothing.
She's saying nothing.
Homegirl hogged the whole show and this chick was just being delusional too, so I was just like, but yeah.
Women don't make sense.
Yeah, you didn't say anything.
I know.
Okay, what about you?
I just think it was crazy and a waste of time.
I would have just shut the fuck up and learned.
That's it.
See, I want to talk more.
I know you've got a lot to say because you're married.
You know, you waited.
So I want to hear your opinion on some more things.
But next time, I guess.
It happens, man.
You'll get some girls that come in and they'll want to argue to argue.
You guys got to also remember too, I think for the girls it's an opportunity because they're like, oh shit, I can debate and argue with a guy because let's keep it a thousand.
Do girls get argued with on dates?
99% of the time, no.
Girls say dumb shit all the time because dudes never tell them that was dumb.
That's probably the first time in a very long time that I told that, like, someone told that girl, that was dumb.
Or told this ridiculous chick, what the fuck is wrong with you?
But you know what's funny, though?
When they plot to come to debate, you're gonna be just like...
You're not gonna win.
It's just like, what's the point?
I literally did do away every single one of their talking points.
And this chick right here was on Somali or some shit.
I was like, bro, nigga, if you're watching this show right now, bro, like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
She literally made you wait the longest and she's crazy as fuck, man.
What the fuck is going on, bro?
Holy shit.
Yo, like, what the fuck?
Like, bro, I mean, number one, I wouldn't want my girl coming apart, but let's say my fiance did come out of part, and she said some dumb shit like, oh, yeah, I made him wait the longest a month and two weeks, and she couldn't answer simple questions, acted all crazy as shit, nigga.
That shit is over.
Yo, I'm taking back the ring.
I'm done.
Well, her husband went downstairs waiting for her right now.
She did a good job.
She did a very good job, so shout out to you.
Bro, if you're still here watching this shit, like, nigga, get out now.
Get out now.
Actually, her husband was downstairs trying to get her off the podcast three times.
Oh, for real?
Really?
So security was up here and I had to deal with them the whole time.
So it's why it's like, you know, like, bro, what the fuck is she doing?
So it's a lot of shit on the scene.
You know what I'm saying?
You did him in favor then.
bruh nigga it's old white guy by the way if you're watching he's an old white guy yes yeah he is it's true old white guy I can't afford to show you oh my god so bro you got real estate property No wonder.
What the fuck are you doing, bro?
And she's a kid.
So, alright, what am I saying to this nigga like?
Yo, if you're watching this shit, I'm a real estate investor too.
She's gonna collect half of your shit, bro.
He watches a show according to her.
No, he don't watch the show.
He must watch after hours only or clips or something.
I don't know, man.
Holy fuck.
I don't know, man.
It's one of those things, man.
Bro, yeah, he don't watch the daytime show.
If he watched the daytime show, he would know.
We'd tell y'all.
Single mom recreationally was only.
Jungle fever.
Literally.
Nigga say, yo, black chick, I'm here!
Yo, man, what you doing?
What you doing?
Jungle fever, bro.
Gotta be it.
Okay, if he's watching, nigga, no, man, no.
Call that shit off now.
That is not a black queen, my friend.
Yeah, man, there are way...
That's a black L. Yeah.
You think you're a black queen for real?
Yeah, bro.
Something.
She'd be a better candidate for you, man, but she loves me a doubt.
But yo, like, yo, you shit nigga, what do you think?
She'd be a better candidate, bro.
Goddamn.
Like, why'd you pick her?
There's way better black girls, man.
Yo, she been tweaking the whole show.
Nigga.
Is she good?
Bro.
Goddamn, man.
Okay, we got on a Friday.
Yo, I feel sorry, man.
Like, yo, because he got some M's.
He's a real estate investor.
He retired.
Probably got an M or two at least.
But she didn't want to say what he did.
For good reason, because that's probably her sugar daddy.
Just saying.
Now she said fiancé.
Yeah, she had a ring on.
Once again, sugar daddy turned into fiancé.
He's falling for her.
Could be.
Who knows?
Could be.
He paying them bills.
Remember, she don't work.
Could be.
Bro, let this be a lesson to all y'all in the chat, man.
You high net worth guys, bro.
Don't marry single moms.
If you're, like, don't fucking get with these ratchet ass chicks, man.
Like, what are y'all doing, man?
You gotta set yourself up cruising for a bruising, man.
Listen, this is a good example right here.
Yeah.
There you go.
That just proves more the point that women are really privileged.
Like, just look at that.
That's crazy.
She made him wait the longest, too.
I said it on your life.
Yo, that's shameful, bro.
Yo, man, hey, maybe we'll save them from this situation, man.
But anyway, guys, all the girls' Instagrams are below, man.
Feel free to send them a dick pic.
I'm sure they'd appreciate it.
Maybe not the married one.
I don't even open my DMs.
Bro, my fucking hair, man.
That was a tough one, man.
Yo, fucking follow the channel.
Subscribe, bro.
Like, goddamn, bro.
See you guys on Friday.
Yeah, we'll catch you guys on Friday when Nick Fuentes is gonna be a crazy show.
I'm gonna let him do most of the debating, bro.
I'm done with this shit, man.
Alright guys, kick your turn on low.
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