May 11, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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| That's your podcast after our edition. | |
| We're joining Sneeko, Destiny, and a bunch of girls. | |
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| The last one we did was the Genovese Crime Family is going to come out tomorrow with the Crazy Don Vista Gigante. | |
| All you guys that like the Mafia. | |
| And then the last episode we did was... | |
| Yes, the Pizza Bomb Heist, yes. | |
| Shout out to Angie for remembering. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So guys, go check that out. | |
| The Pizza Bomb Heist. | |
| And then also, go get my book, guys, Why Women Deserve Less, in paperback and, of course, in hardcover, coming soon in Spanish. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| Shout out to Angie for translating it. | |
| And then I also got it on Audible as well. | |
| So go check it out, guys. | |
| Why Women Deserve Less, number one Amazon bestseller. | |
| And then, Chris, go ahead. | |
| Yes, and ladies, send me a DM on R.C. Parkson on IG. Make sure your page is not privated. | |
| I need photos, ladies. | |
| Don't send me paragraphs. | |
| And ladies, let's have a great show. | |
| All right. | |
| Fantastic. | |
| Welcome back, guys. | |
| Part two. | |
| Ladies, if you don't mind, give us your name, your age, what you do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, and we'll start right here. | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Thank you. | |
| My name is Angie. | |
| I'm 20-something. | |
| And I'm from Venezuela. | |
| I have a bachelor degree in psychology. | |
| And I work as a hookah girl in a bar called Bottle Blunt. | |
| Not hooker. | |
| Hookah. | |
| Hookah. | |
| I can understand you. | |
| Sorry. | |
| My English is still better than yours, so you're fresh. | |
| I would never, bro. | |
| She stepped on his big baller brand shoes? | |
| BBC getting down horrendous right now, man. | |
| Alright, what about you? | |
| Welcome. | |
| My name is... | |
| We didn't get our status! | |
| Okay, yeah, I'm in a relationship. | |
| Oh, wow! | |
| How long has it been? | |
| Like, five minutes. | |
| How'd you guys meet? | |
| Somewhere. | |
| None of your business, though. | |
| Moving on. | |
| I knew Fresh was going to enjoy this episode, man. | |
| I looked at the panel and I was like, man. | |
| Chris, you do this shit on purpose, man. | |
| Oh, more or less. | |
| Fucking dickhead. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Okay, my name is Gabby Labarca. | |
| I have a bachelor's degree on science of communication. | |
| It's Gabby, you said? | |
| Gabby. | |
| Okay, how old are you? | |
| Gabby, 25. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you're from where? | |
| From Venezuela. | |
| Cool. | |
| Okay. | |
| I also work as a social media manager, so if anyone needs me, you know, follow me on Gabby Labarca. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then you said you have a bachelor's degree in what? | |
| On mass communication. | |
| Mass communication. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm a journalist. | |
| Okay. | |
| And what's your relationship status? | |
| In a relationship. | |
| Okay. | |
| How long y'all been together? | |
| One year. | |
| Okay. | |
| Congrats. | |
| What about you? | |
| My name is Zaria. | |
| I'm 25. | |
| I sing, I model, and I'm also a bottle girl. | |
| Where are you from? | |
| I'm from Virginia. | |
| My family's from Trinidad. | |
| Okay. | |
| Ollie is stupid. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then what's your highest education level completed? | |
| I did two years of college and I was valedictorian in high school. | |
| Okay. | |
| Were you a, like, do you have an associate's degree or? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I was in school for psychology, so. | |
| Okay. | |
| So you got your associate's in psychology. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| Are you going back or not? | |
| I might, but I mean, I'm making a lot of money doing, you know, what I dream of doing. | |
| That's like a plan B for me. | |
| So you said sing, bottle girl. | |
| What was the third thing you did? | |
| Well, bottle girl is just a side thing. | |
| Okay. | |
| But I sing and I model and I also act too. | |
| Question. | |
| Sure. | |
| Have you been in Vogue? | |
| I get paid, so that's all I need. | |
| That's a no. | |
| What's your relationship status? | |
| I'm taken. | |
| Okay. | |
| How long have you been together? | |
| Five years. | |
| All right. | |
| Cool. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hi, I'm Stephanie. | |
| I'm 31. | |
| Wait, 31? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Where are you from? | |
| I'm from, actually, Washington State. | |
| Okay. | |
| What part? | |
| Yakima. | |
| Bless you. | |
| Okay. | |
| It's a really small town. | |
| You've probably never heard of it. | |
| How far is it from Seattle? | |
| It's like four hours. | |
| It's closer to Tacoma? | |
| It's like in a valley. | |
| Nobody knows of it. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you do for it? | |
| A hairstylist. | |
| Okay. | |
| And my highest level of education is I finished high school. | |
| I went like one year to college and dropped out. | |
| Okay. | |
| Religious status? | |
| I'm single. | |
| Single. | |
| All right. | |
| Are you Native American? | |
| Yeah. | |
| What tribe? | |
| I don't even know, honestly. | |
| It's from Montana. | |
| Do you know what percentage you are? | |
| My mom's half, so that would make me quarter. | |
| Wait, does that qualify? | |
| She could live on a reservation if she wanted to. | |
| Do you want kids? | |
| No. | |
| Not right now. | |
| What about you? | |
| My name is Mina. | |
| I'm 18 and I literally did not like go to college at all. | |
| I literally just went to high school. | |
| Where are you from? | |
| Fort Lauderdale. | |
| Okay. | |
| You look familiar for some reason. | |
| A lot of people say that. | |
| I said the same. | |
| I don't know why. | |
| What do you do for work? | |
| Like as of right now, I just like got out of relationships. | |
| Oh, so you were dating. | |
| No. | |
| No? | |
| Whoever you're about to say, no. | |
| Oh, don't say it. | |
| No comment. | |
| I mean, you could. | |
| I don't care. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Alright, so you're fun employed right now. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I'm just like, I don't want to be in a relationship. | |
| The question was, what do you do for work, not your relationship. | |
| Oh, I thought you... | |
| Okay, never mind. | |
| I guess that relationship was work, too. | |
| Okay. | |
| It was. | |
| And then high school, and then you're single now, right? | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | |
| But you're unemployed. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| I mean, you're 18. | |
| I'm an island boy. | |
| Trying to make it. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah? | |
| Is that what it is? | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| It's Tina's fault. | |
| Honestly, it's Tina's fault. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| Just trying to make it. | |
| Why are you corrupting 18-year-old girls with island boys? | |
| I broke them up. | |
| That's not corrupting. | |
| I saved her. | |
| Okay, good, good. | |
| What about you? | |
| My name is Amy Dangerfield. | |
| I'm 27. | |
| Hello. | |
| I'm from Australia originally. | |
| I do high ticket sales and recently YouTube and I am single. | |
| Okay. | |
| Wait, weren't you in a relationship last time? | |
| You talked so positive about your relationship. | |
| I was. | |
| What happened? | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| It's, um... | |
| She wants more. | |
| It's fairly recent. | |
| You ended it, huh? | |
| You were like kind of a girl boss, I remember. | |
| No, it wasn't necessarily... | |
| One thing that I can say is definitely this... | |
| I can't even talk. | |
| No, this show ended it? | |
| It didn't end it, but this show definitely showed me a lot about... | |
| It gave me a much better understanding about relationships, male and female dynamics, and exactly what those roles are and how they need to be fulfilled. | |
| And I definitely did the best to do my part in. | |
| And you left because he was a son. | |
| I'm not going to say that. | |
| Who made more, you or him? | |
| She did. | |
| He made a little bit more. | |
| He has a very successful media company, which I helped him launch. | |
| I actually formed his LLC for him. | |
| He worked at a high-paying media job, and I encouraged him to go out and build his own business. | |
| And it's been very, very successful. | |
| So he actually makes more than me. | |
| So why did you... | |
| Yeah, why did you break up with him? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He cheated. | |
| No, he didn't. | |
| It was boring. | |
| Guys, listen, this is something that I probably will talk about in the future, but it is very real and very raw. | |
| And we're still figuring out a lot of the logistics, right? | |
| And so I really don't want to throw anyone under the bus. | |
| I don't. | |
| Yeah, so. | |
| Do it. | |
| Nah, we'll get to the bottom of it. | |
| She's in danger. | |
| I'm sure you guys will get to the bottom of it. | |
| We'll get to the bottom of it. | |
| He probably smashed another chick. | |
| I thought she made more money, but it's not what it is. | |
| She was like, no. | |
| Associates in justice and legal. | |
| Okay. | |
| And that was in Australia, right? | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then, well, I guess you're single now. | |
| And then when you say high ticket, what do you sell again? | |
| Business operations. | |
| So like trucking operations and also e-commerce stores, things of that nature. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| What about you? | |
| Welcome back. | |
| Hi, my name is Dom. | |
| I am 23 years old, originally from New Orleans. | |
| I am getting my law degree next year, so I just finished my second year of law school today, actually. | |
| So you have your bachelor's degree now? | |
| Yes, I have a bachelor's in international business. | |
| Okay. | |
| Where'd you get it from? | |
| From Howard University. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| And the last question was what? | |
| Your relationship status? | |
| I'm single. | |
| Okay. | |
| Cool. | |
| What kind of law are you looking to get into? | |
| I plan on going into entertainment and sports, specifically talent representation, more so in music, but eventually across all areas, like sports, TV, film, music, influencers, all that type of stuff. | |
| All right. | |
| And then are you like a full-time student as far as employment goes? | |
| I'm a full-time student, but I have an internship that I'm not going to mention. | |
| That's fine. | |
| And then I do social media for my school program that I'm in. | |
| Okay, cool. | |
| All right. | |
| What about you? | |
| I'm nobody special. | |
| I work for a small local radio station in downtown Miami. | |
| Yes, sir! | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm Zena. | |
| Yeah, that's it. | |
| I work for Fresh and Fit. | |
| Highest education was homeschooling. | |
| Highest school. | |
| Well, hold on, hold on. | |
| How old are you? | |
| 27. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then where are you originally from? | |
| Akron, Ohio. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then what do you, well, you work for, yeah, okay. | |
| I work in a freshman, but that's all that I do. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then highest education levels, high school, and then relationship status? | |
| Taken. | |
| Okay. | |
| Body count? | |
| No, no, hold on, hold on. | |
| Move on, move on. | |
| That's none of your business, Chris. | |
| But how'd you meet this person? | |
| Well, you see, the thing is, how I met this person is... | |
| You don't need to talk to him. | |
| You don't need to talk to him. | |
| How long has it been? | |
| Don't talk to her. | |
| Oh, is it you? | |
| No, just don't talk to her. | |
| Okay. | |
| Let's move forward then. | |
| Daddy's talking. | |
| Okay, let's move forward. | |
| Man, Chris knows what the fuck he's doing, man. | |
| Fucking dickhead. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Hi, I'm Cara. | |
| I'm 24. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| What is it? | |
| Yaha? | |
| Cara. | |
| Bless you. | |
| Cara. | |
| Okay. | |
| How old are you? | |
| I'm 24. | |
| Where are you from? | |
| I'm from Paris. | |
| Okay. | |
| Friends. | |
| Oui, oui. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Enchanté. | |
| Enchanté. | |
| Parlez-vous français? | |
| Oui. | |
| Enchanté. Enchanté. Enchanté. | |
| Let's go. | |
| I have a beauty business with my best friend. | |
| Shout out to Marianne. | |
| Here or in France? | |
| In France. | |
| So you're just here visiting? | |
| Yeah, I'm in here on vacation. | |
| Highest education level complete? | |
| I don't know how you say that, but I did my high school. | |
| High school? | |
| Okay. | |
| High school. | |
| I think they call a primary school in Europe, right? | |
| Can you understand French? | |
| A little bit. | |
| What did I say? | |
| 24. | |
| Okay, what's your relationship? | |
| So, I'm just freshly single. | |
| Okay, I just became recently single too, that's what I was saying, Ms. | |
| Danger. | |
| Okay, so... | |
| Alright, I'm going to go ahead and... | |
| So, guys, what we'll do is we got 12,000 of y'all in here, so what I'll do is I'm going to read the chats that came in from before, but from this point forward, we'll go 50 and up. | |
| And then Destiny and Sneko? | |
| Yeah, and then Destiny and Sneko introduce themselves. | |
| Alright, cool. | |
| I'm Destiny. | |
| I've got a YouTube channel, youtube.com slash destiny, and I've got an Instagram at instagram.com slash destiny. | |
| Why are you trying to pull your Instagram so much? | |
| Because it's a cool platform. | |
| Is it? | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| Cool. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Rumble.com slash Nico, streaming every night at 8 p.m. | |
| Eastern, and that's where you can find me, Twitter, Instagram, other sites banned. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| Yeah, go check them out, guys. | |
| So, Destiny, you had a question, so I'll turn it to you, my friend. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I have a question for the ladies on the panel. | |
| Please. | |
| Right. | |
| Would you guys date a man that said he would never live with you, but instead wanted to live with all of his boys instead? | |
| Damn, long term, but he tells you, I'm never going to live with you, you can have sleepovers and stuff, but we're never going to live together. | |
| But he's like a cool guy otherwise, I'm just curious. | |
| I have a follow-up question after we go answer this one. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| That's fine, that's fine. | |
| We'll start here with Miss Pari. | |
| Would you live with a guy who... | |
| Not literally a guy, a date a guy. | |
| Oh yeah, okay, excuse me. | |
| I think that's a little weird because it's sketchy. | |
| I mean, that you kind of have something to hide. | |
| So no. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, it's fair. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yes. | |
| Okay, you would agree. | |
| What about you? | |
| Personally, I don't think I would actually live with anyone until I'm engaged. | |
| So that would be like a deal breaker. | |
| If he was like, I'll never live with you, I'm not going for that. | |
| No, but while you're dating, that's fine. | |
| Well, but we're saying forever, so that's cool. | |
| He said forever. | |
| He said, I will never live with you, like, ever. | |
| She listens. | |
| You can learn something, Seiko. | |
| I'm not about to graduate law school for nothing. | |
| No. | |
| Alright, so that's a no from you. | |
| What about you? | |
| That is scary. | |
| Yeah, I agree. | |
| And logistically, especially long-term for, like, the family unit, that's probably not going to be the best thing. | |
| No... | |
| It depends on the definition of dating, but me personally, I had a bad experience living with a guy that I was dating, so I personally would not do it again. | |
| So you'd be okay with that? | |
| Of course. | |
| Living in different locations. | |
| What about you? | |
| W. I think I would be okay with it if it was his own house, but the fact that it's with other guys, I don't know about that. | |
| Is that required in the question that you're asking? | |
| Well, because you would be living with other high-value men, of course, so you'd be networked. | |
| Of course. | |
| Okay, so you would say yes, but if you live with other guys, no. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| What do you think? | |
| That's a little sus, sir? | |
| Yeah, unless he had, like, you know, he was running, like, a YouTube channel in there and we, like, work together or something. | |
| Oh, work. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's a yes, then. | |
| That's a yes. | |
| Dating, yes. | |
| Married, no. | |
| Because when I want to have kids, I want a two-parent household. | |
| Okay. | |
| Alright. | |
| Okay, I wouldn't do that. | |
| No? | |
| No. | |
| What about when you're on your period? | |
| Do I have to be in the house with you? | |
| Especially not. | |
| I think I could take a week off in the apartment. | |
| Maybe. | |
| Alright. | |
| That's a compromise I'm going to deal with. | |
| It's a religious thing for him. | |
| He can't be near women that are menstruating. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| At all? | |
| You can't be around your wives while they're bleeding. | |
| Haram! | |
| You gotta follow that Quran all the way, bro. | |
| Oh, he doesn't eat pork or anything. | |
| I'm watching you. | |
| Watch. | |
| Yeah, I think that's completely fine. | |
| He can leave with whoever he wants. | |
| I mean, if he doesn't... | |
| Yeah, like it's better if it doesn't leave with me, you know, like it's like it's better if it doesn't leave with me, you know, like it's just better So you got a follow-up question Yes, which way do you want to start? | |
| - Oh, we can throw Angie in and work our way. | |
| - Angie, could you take a man seriously that sucks dick? | |
| - Whoa! - Doug and Sneakle, Doug and Sneakle. | |
| - Do you have a question? | |
| Okay, let's simplify the question. | |
| Could you date a man? | |
| Seriously, that's bisexual. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I don't like that. | |
| I just feel like if that's what you do, then I'll never satisfy you as a woman. | |
| You're going to always want a man. | |
| That's what I think. | |
| Maybe you could tag team it, you know? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Bisexual man is not completely masculine. | |
| What about you? | |
| Um, probably not, just because I feel like I would be scared to catch something. | |
| I don't know. | |
| That's like having sex with a flu? | |
| Like, I don't know. | |
| Yeah, an STD. I would be scared. | |
| What about you? | |
| Yeah, 100%. | |
| No, that's weird. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Nerf. | |
| What about you? | |
| Nerf. | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| Xena. | |
| Haram. | |
| Haram! | |
| No, I wouldn't date. | |
| Well, so there wasn't one that was okay with that, but the living with high-value man thing, which you were kind of insinuating is gay, that men want to live with other men. | |
| The panel was pretty 50-50 on that. | |
| Some of them were okay with the compromise. | |
| It's work. | |
| They understand. | |
| Depends on what level of the relationship. | |
| But when it comes to... | |
| Bisexuality, not one woman here is okay with that. | |
| No person in a serious relationship would be okay with never living with their partner. | |
| That's a joke. | |
| Even the people that sat on the panel, they'd be okay with it. | |
| They wouldn't be okay with it in a serious long-term relationship. | |
| They just said they would be. | |
| That's fine that they say, but didn't you guys also say women lie all the time? | |
| Nobody who's like 32 who is talking to their friends like, oh, you're dating this guy? | |
| Yeah, we dated for like eight years. | |
| I'm really excited because tomorrow I'm going to go have a sleepover at his house. | |
| Nobody would be okay with that. | |
| That's a joke. | |
| But Destiny, that would mean they would all lie on every answer. | |
| So this means it's not good a basement of judgment. | |
| That's true. | |
| You never know. | |
| I do want to say this so that it makes more sense. | |
| Just so you guys know, he asked that question to make fun of us. | |
| Because we were saying earlier that you shouldn't live with your girl. | |
| When I said that, what I mean is in like, you should get a house, like let's say y'all have a family, y'all have kids or whatever. | |
| You buy a house for her and the kids and you're there, but you should not be spending all your time there is my point. | |
| You should have another address that you can go to at times to create, you know, some space. | |
| I think space makes things very important and makes the heart grow fonder, space. | |
| So I should have qualified. | |
| We were actually saying the two house strategy. | |
| That's who you're going for. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because you didn't ask for more detail. | |
| But that would be the strategy in that situation where like if you have a family and it's serious, yes, you have a house for her and the children. | |
| You come in periodically and do what you need to do. | |
| You obviously support the family because I think the man should be the breadwinner. | |
| But you have another address that you actually stay at because I think living with a woman does make you soft as a man. | |
| But when you're gonna get to your other address, you're gonna like, it's sketchy, it's weird. | |
| I mean... | |
| Well, there's a couple of reasons for that, and I'd be happy to go into it if you guys want me to, but before I do, did you guys have anything on that situation with the whole penis licking and... | |
| And living somewhere else? | |
| I mean, it's interesting because you guys talk about getting to know a woman or whatever. | |
| But I feel like, for me personally, I don't consider relationships real until people are living with each other. | |
| Because you don't know shit about your partner until you have to spend every day with them to really figure out what's going on. | |
| And when you can choose when to see your partner on only your best days, it's hard to know what the person is really like. | |
| I agree. | |
| But I can also argue, if you live in separate houses, I'm going to see her all the time anyway. | |
| Why would you see her all the time? | |
| We'll meet up for dinner. | |
| You can live right down the street. | |
| That's essentially just picking and choosing when you want to be around. | |
| I don't think that is Like what a long-term relationship is supposed to be about. | |
| That's more casual dating. | |
| I would think that casual dating most of the time is happier. | |
| A lot of marriages end up sexless. | |
| A lot of marriages end up miserable. | |
| If you could pick and choose when to spend time, that means that the time you spend together is going to be ultra quality because you want to show your best self. | |
| You want to be meaningful. | |
| Early on in a relationship, people always dress up nice. | |
| They put on a nice cologne. | |
| You should have the best talking points. | |
| You try to entertain each other. | |
| You're trying to make each other as happy as possible because you want to impress them. | |
| Yeah, it's a honeymoon phase. | |
| It's smoke and mirrors. | |
| Why would you give up the honeymoon phase? | |
| You should try to upkeep that as much as possible. | |
| If you can upkeep that 30 years down the line, that's going to be a happier marriage than two people who are just annoyed by their presence. | |
| Is that possible? | |
| I think you necessarily have to be annoyed with the person. | |
| I was in a relationship for eight years, and six years I was living with my men. | |
| And sometimes, yeah, we were all of each other's faces, and it was annoying, but most of the times we get to know each other, like our default, like... | |
| I don't know. | |
| I feel like it's more real. | |
| When you can see the bad, the ugly, and then you appreciate more the beautiful. | |
| I think when you do the casual dating, you're not meeting the person. | |
| You're only seeing the representative, right? | |
| When you do casual dating, you're seeing the person at the- you're not even really seeing them. | |
| They could be putting on a front. | |
| But when you live with somebody, like you said, like outside of all the flashy cologne and the dresses and everything, you can see who the person really is. | |
| And if you want to fall in love with somebody, But here's the thing, you are living with her for a period of time, it's just that it's segmented. | |
| It's like, okay, three days I spent with her, boom, now I'm going to go home and have my space. | |
| You are living with her and seeing that side, it might take you, you know, you would have been able to find maybe certain things in, you know, two months that you would have taken you maybe seven or eight months living together every single day, but you still find these straights out and still get to know the person. | |
| But the main reason why I say guys need to live in a separate location isn't necessarily for the woman, it's for the guy. | |
| Yeah, but when I find a woman that, like, synergizes with you, that can help you, that can build you up, but you guys work as a partner, as a team, and she's going to drag you down. | |
| As a team on what? | |
| What are we going to work on together? | |
| Me and my mom? | |
| Literally anything. | |
| You guys can do health stuff together, you can do meals together, you can go out and have fun together, you can watch TV shows together, you can work on projects together. | |
| So we can go out together. | |
| I don't want to cook with her. | |
| Why would you want to do that? | |
| Because it's fun as fuck. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| That's a super fun activity. | |
| With a significant other, anything can be fun, yeah. | |
| Everything becomes fun when you're with somebody that you love. | |
| So, watching a boring ass movie can be super entertaining with someone that you love. | |
| Okay, okay. | |
| Look, look, look, ladies. | |
| So, because you guys keep looking at it from a female perspective, right? | |
| Of like, hey, I get to be on my man, etc. | |
| And you guys are looking at it from there. | |
| But the reason why I'm saying, and I'm advising men, by the way, why they shouldn't do it is because men typically become lazy when they live with their girl. | |
| And what I mean by that is they don't have the same sharpness that they used to have when they attracted the girl in the first place. | |
| They're not as diligent about the gym a lot of the times. | |
| They start to get lazy. | |
| They don't work as hard as they used to, etc. | |
| Because women are very comforting, right? | |
| And on top of that, let's be a thousand. | |
| Women are inherently lazy in general. | |
| So they're going to go ahead and encourage you to be lazy. | |
| Oh no, stay inside and hang out with me. | |
| Let's have some ice cream. | |
| Let's watch a movie, blah, blah, blah. | |
| So I don't want guys, right, to live in an environment that's too comfortable, right, aka their girl, and get soft. | |
| I want guys to stay sharp, to be the man that she fell in love with in the first place. | |
| And you're going to maintain that edge and that sharpness by not living with her. | |
| Not only would I disagree, I would actually use a stat earlier, actually, that I think actually contradicts that. | |
| I think in some ways women can keep men sharper. | |
| One of the things you brought up that was only one of the points that was true about men doing worse after divorce is that when men get married through all facets of life, they tend to commit less crime. | |
| And as soon as a man gets divorced, the likelihood for him to do more crime starts to increase again because he doesn't have anybody like a stable environment holding him down. | |
| That's why you should have good friends around you. | |
| You should have iron sharpens iron. | |
| Iron does not get sharpened by a feather. | |
| And women are feathers. | |
| The relationship, now I can't speak for you because I don't know if you do gay relationships. | |
| I don't, so I don't have experience with that. | |
| You said you do. | |
| I don't. | |
| I don't date men. | |
| Now, if you're dating a man, it might be like that. | |
| But the relationship that you have, the relationship that you have with a woman when you're dating a woman is different than the relationship you have with your bros when you're with bros. | |
| Your woman should be arguably more invested with you and in you than any of your guy friends are because they don't have They're not building a life with you. | |
| They're just being a friend to you. | |
| You can be friends with guys that do crazy fucking shit. | |
| Your friend can become an alcoholic. | |
| You can ruin his fucking life. | |
| Don't be friends with them. | |
| But with a woman, she's invested in your success as much as you should be invested in your success. | |
| She can still be an asset though, just living somewhere else. | |
| It doesn't have to be with me. | |
| Why can't she be your best friend? | |
| Once again, adding to that as well, let's say I live with a woman, right? | |
| We see each other all the time. | |
| It's going to become boring. | |
| If it's time away, then she can miss me and want me more and it's meaningful. | |
| But I agree in the sense of before marriage. | |
| Yes, I agree with that. | |
| Once you're married and you have children and you're building a family dynamic, do I want my husband going in and out my kids' lives because he needs space for three days? | |
| No. | |
| He's not going anywhere. | |
| If you're living in a separate house, I don't agree with that. | |
| In a marriage... | |
| What's the difference if he's working or he's overseas working, like if he's a high businessman? | |
| Because he's not overseas working, he's living in a house down the street. | |
| And my dad is a lawyer and he went on business trips and he had to travel a lot. | |
| He did not have a separate house down the street from my family home. | |
| He was a very present, active dad that still handled business and was a provider and did everything. | |
| He can do the same thing, just not live there. | |
| Your dad went away, right? | |
| To travel for a couple days? | |
| He wasn't there all the time. | |
| Yeah, but he was on business, not, oh, my dad had to leave the house and go down the street for three days because he needed space. | |
| Well, once again, the same scenario there, he's not there. | |
| However, the context is different. | |
| Because he's working to make money to pay for our lives. | |
| That's what you tell the kids. | |
| You don't tell them he lives in a separate house. | |
| Why would you lie to your kids about your dad having to leave the house because he just needs three days of space for mom every week? | |
| I mean, if your kids are four years old and they hear you upstairs, you know, doing what adults do, are you going to tell them, oh, yeah, we were fucking. | |
| No, you're going to lie. | |
| Oh, mommy and daddy were playing a game. | |
| Okay. | |
| And then not even to mention, the biggest thing here is nobody would trust a guy not to cheat if that was arranged as well. | |
| Right? | |
| Like if your guy's leaving for three or four days at a time and then he comes back and sees you, like, I can't see any long term relationship ever working out that way. | |
| You're looking at it in a monogamous sense. | |
| This is the best way that a man is going to be able to upkeep his masculinity. | |
| This is the way that he's... | |
| Iron sharpens iron. | |
| And I asked, like, what is the team that you're talking about with a man and a wife? | |
| And you said watching TV together, cooking together. | |
| You said a bunch of feminine activities. | |
| And right now, all the women are agreeing with you, but they also disagreed with being in a relationship with you. | |
| They said they wouldn't want to be with the bisexual guy. | |
| I'm not trying to date any of the women here, number one. | |
| I don't care about dating anyone. | |
| Okay, but they agree with your relationship ideas, but they don't agree with you. | |
| Number two, the way you guys describe things is like doing fun things to do significant others, being feminine, is like, again, the gayest shit I've ever heard in my life. | |
| Why would spending time with your girlfriend or wife be feminine? | |
| You can spend time with, but I want to do things that are actually fun to me. | |
| Cooking is not fun to me. | |
| Watching TV and watching Netflix with Booby Bear, cuddling a little bit. | |
| Okay, what are fun things to do? | |
| What is fun to you? | |
| Maybe we can go skydiving. | |
| Maybe we can go jet skiing. | |
| We can do that living in separate homes. | |
| But why can't you, while living in the same house too, why can't your woman be your best friend also? | |
| Why can't she encourage you? | |
| Women and men are never going to be friends the same way that men are going to be friends. | |
| What if she likes guy stuff too though? | |
| What if she likes video games? | |
| You said you don't want to be a guy that sucks dick and now you want a guy who's gay? | |
| Yeah, I like all that stuff. | |
| You want a game with your husband? | |
| Yes, I like games. | |
| No, I don't. | |
| So how many of you here, right, know someone that's married? | |
| Raise your hand. | |
| You know someone that's married, personally? | |
| Yes. | |
| Are they truly happy? | |
| No. | |
| Be honest! | |
| Are they really happy living together? | |
| My parents are literally high school sweethearts and they are actually happy. | |
| Okay. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| My aunt and uncle are also high school sweethearts. | |
| They actually are happy. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| I was raised around very healthy marriages. | |
| Okay, outside of your family. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| All of my friends' parents. | |
| I grew up around. | |
| Same thing. | |
| Still married today. | |
| Happy as hell. | |
| Still married today. | |
| 30 plus years. | |
| Yes. | |
| I would argue that they argue multiple times a month. | |
| And ultimately speaking... | |
| Conflict is actually healthy. | |
| That's part of a relationship. | |
| But stepping away and coming back to that person is even better. | |
| That's not better. | |
| That's the worst thing in the world. | |
| It shows you can't even resolve conflict. | |
| Not in marriage. | |
| If you had a partner and you're like, listen, we're fighting. | |
| I'm leaving for three days and I'll come back. | |
| That's like the worst thing you could do. | |
| There's a difference between avoiding some blowing off steam. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| Destiny, can I make an ad hominem? | |
| Is it about sucking dick again? | |
| No, it's not. | |
| But you don't live with your wife all the time. | |
| I literally do! | |
| No, you don't. | |
| We travel sometimes. | |
| We live together like 95% of the time. | |
| Yeah, we travel every place. | |
| Doesn't you have an apartment in Austin? | |
| Yeah, that she goes to. | |
| I think she's been there like two weeks over the past year. | |
| But I went with her last time. | |
| We live together. | |
| She just told me on my stream that she went to Hawaii. | |
| Yeah, she was in Hawaii for a week too, and I traveled too. | |
| But we live together. | |
| We don't have separate houses. | |
| Listen, like she said with her dad, sometimes people travel. | |
| That's fine. | |
| But when we're both at home, why would I want to live apart from my wife? | |
| I love being with her. | |
| I like spending time with her. | |
| I like waking up. | |
| I like drinking coffee with her. | |
| But you get fed up with her eventually. | |
| And then you go your separate ways. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I don't get fed up with her. | |
| There are just things I like to do with other people too. | |
| But I'm never like, I'm sick of you. | |
| I need to get away from you. | |
| That's kind of what it is. | |
| That's not what it is at all. | |
| If you spend 100% of your time with your significant other, you're both going to bring each other down. | |
| Then you end up relying on each other. | |
| You get complacent. | |
| You get too comfortable. | |
| 100% of the time versus living in a separate house are two totally different things. | |
| You can have... | |
| You can be together in a house and not be crowding each other all the time. | |
| There are a lot of times where Mel is at her corner of the house and I'm at my corner of the house doing emails, doing work, and she's working on her fucking Instagram and shit. | |
| There are times when we're working on different things. | |
| We're not crowding each other. | |
| You can do that in the same house as possible. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| There's three main reasons why I think you need to live apart. | |
| Always with the list. | |
| Number one, it keeps the guy sharp, right? | |
| He's gonna stay sharp. | |
| Number two, it promotes productivity. | |
| And then number three, which is gonna be kind of toxic, It keeps the girl guessing. | |
| Like, here's the thing with women, right? | |
| Women, once they get bored with you, that's the beginning of the end. | |
| And when she doesn't necessarily know what you're up to all the time, keeps her mind racing. | |
| She's like, what's he doing? | |
| Blah, blah, blah. | |
| And I've always said it. | |
| A woman's imagination is your best friend. | |
| Being too available, her being able to see what you're doing all the time, it makes you less attractive to her because men and women are different. | |
| But this also... | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| Let me just finish that point real quick. | |
| Like women need to feel like they're getting the best man that they can get and they can't have them all the time. | |
| It sucks, but that's a necessary component for women to be attracted and aroused by you. | |
| So again, I get where you guys are saying like, hey, for the relationship, what the girl wants, blah, blah, blah. | |
| But I'm speaking from the male perspective, how you maintain attraction in the relationship is to not always be available. | |
| And that's the other biggest thing too, is when she doesn't know where you're at all the time, it has her mind racing, which is to your benefit. | |
| You say that, and I think in some really weird hyper red pill world that might be true with some women, but the reality is, listen, you thought you were a fucking federal investigator? | |
| A woman that is suspicious is the most keen, crazy fucking investigator of the world. | |
| She's going to be driving outside your apartment. | |
| She's going to have a second cell phone with a SIM card. | |
| Why the fuck would you want a relationship like that? | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| But if she's invested, right, in doing all that, what does that mean? | |
| That means your relationship fucking sucks ass. | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| That's the worst relationship ever. | |
| When a girl is chasing you, that's what I want. | |
| I want the woman to be chasing the guy. | |
| That's a psycho, that's a psychopath. | |
| Because women, hold on, hold on. | |
| When women are chasing your validation and they're stalking you and you're making all these investments, that means they, number one, love you. | |
| Number two, they care. | |
| And number three, they're less likely to do bullshit and go off with another guy because she's too busy chasing your validation. | |
| Yeah, but then you're going to be like DJing in the lobby with a girl and hitting another girl like, hey, Matt, you're talking to somebody. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| My point is I want the man to maintain the leverage where the girl likes him more than he likes her. | |
| And the reason for that, even though girls might say that's toxic, is because women have so many options nowadays. | |
| The only way that you can circumvent female hypergamy and them having all these options is she needs to like you more than you like her. | |
| That's when women are the happiest, when they feel like they got the prize. | |
| And for you to feel that way, you have to exemplify traits. | |
| And not living with her allows you to have that air of mystery. | |
| I think that it's called playing games. | |
| If you want her to be crazy about you, why don't you want her to... | |
| Okay, so men want women to bring them peace, right? | |
| Okay, so you said playing games, right? | |
| Here's the thing that sucks. | |
| See, I wish we could be honest with women, but the thing with women is that you guys are attracted to toxic things. | |
| No. | |
| Oh, really? | |
| What's the highest-selling book for females? | |
| For females, I'm a woman. | |
| Fifty Shades of Grey. | |
| Yeah, but it's a fantasy. | |
| Everybody has fantasy. | |
| That does not sound lame. | |
| Why is Fifty Shades of Grey the most popular female book? | |
| Because... | |
| Girls love to be dominated. | |
| No, but it's only sexual. | |
| It's not sexual in a relationship. | |
| It's two different things. | |
| Yeah, but that's how you maintain sexual attraction in the relationship is you have to have the things that Christian Grey has. | |
| Dominant, assertive, successful. | |
| He's the one running the relationship. | |
| She likes him more than he likes her. | |
| Women find these things attractive, right? | |
| Universally. | |
| I get it that you guys might say, I don't like this. | |
| It's toxic or blah, blah, blah. | |
| But the reality is you're aroused and attracted to it. | |
| And that's what I'm telling guys to be. | |
| Because being a nice guy, you know, being with your girl all the time, always being available, it's not attractive. | |
| Can I tell you something? | |
| Okay, so, for example, I like boring, nice guy. | |
| I don't like... | |
| I do. | |
| I don't like bad guys. | |
| I don't like... | |
| You were in a relationship for eight years living with him. | |
| What happened? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Oh my god. | |
| Do you want me to tell you why we broke up? | |
| It's pretty personal, but it was pretty much my fault. | |
| I was pretty... | |
| I had a... | |
| I was pretty toxic at some point. | |
| So you had a nice guy and you didn't like it? | |
| No, that's not what happened. | |
| What, you cheated? | |
| So why are we toxic? | |
| No, I didn't cheat. | |
| He was nice, so why are you toxic? | |
| Okay, so not to give all the story, but we... | |
| No, but... | |
| I had a phase in my life when I was a little bit toxic. | |
| Don't say that. | |
| It's funny. | |
| You just said that you don't want toxic, that you want something calm. | |
| You had a calm relationship and you started being toxic. | |
| There's more to a relationship than just whether or not they're calm. | |
| I was with him for eight years, so it was a roller coaster. | |
| You know, it's not always perfect, but I was with him for eight years. | |
| I loved him for eight years. | |
| What did you think that was toxic? | |
| What did I do that was toxic? | |
| I don't want to go into that. | |
| Okay, but basically women like drama. | |
| Women need to be emotionally involved. | |
| They need to be invested like they're watching a drama movie. | |
| This is how you approach high school relationships and how you approach healthy long-term relationships. | |
| She was probably the longest relationship with this entire table. | |
| It was really deep stuff, family stuff. | |
| It was like a big deal. | |
| I'm not going to explain and go into detail, but it was a valid reason. | |
| But it was not like I was looking for drama. | |
| You said you were toxic. | |
| Yeah, but sometimes stuff happens. | |
| I don't think that would have happened if he was living in a different place and you weren't getting his attention all the time. | |
| You probably would not have acted so toxic. | |
| You probably started acting toxic because you got bored. | |
| You needed some emotional involvement. | |
| No, that's not true. | |
| I started acting toxic because of my trauma, some stuff that happened. | |
| Sometimes I do some stuff. | |
| Emotional damage! | |
| Sometimes I do some stuff, but everybody has their trauma. | |
| Everybody reacts. | |
| Everybody gets triggered. | |
| So let me get this straight. | |
| You had a nice guy that was there for you, cared for you, and all of a sudden... | |
| I was living with him. | |
| I loved him. | |
| He loves me. | |
| All of a sudden... | |
| No, but it was eight years. | |
| You cannot say that. | |
| Eight years of a good relationship. | |
| Eight years of a nice guy living together. | |
| Randomly this traumatized feelings. | |
| This trauma came out of nowhere. | |
| You got triggered. | |
| Nothing that he did. | |
| Nothing. | |
| And then you ruin the relationship. | |
| Okay, so some stuff that he was doing was triggering me into some... | |
| What? | |
| He coughed too hard? | |
| I thought he was peaceful. | |
| I don't want to go into detail because I respect... | |
| That's fine. | |
| You don't have to go into detail. | |
| My point is this. | |
| Nice guys... | |
| There's a reason why they say nice guys finish last. | |
| Not always being available makes you more attractive. | |
| That's just... | |
| I'm with a nice guy right now, and I've literally left every toxic guy because they were toxic. | |
| I come from a family that isn't the healthiest, so I want something that's healthy. | |
| Okay, look, you do realize that your own personal experiences don't necessarily reflect the realities of the world? | |
| How can you say that? | |
| We can't correlate it to the realities of the world. | |
| Just because you're saying you like nice guys doesn't mean that a majority of women like nice guys. | |
| Congratulations, you might be an exception to the rule, but a lot of women don't like nice guys and punish nice guys. | |
| Who likes nice guys at the table? | |
| Raise your hand. | |
| None of you guys said you wanted a guy who sucks dick. | |
| That's the furthest nice guy pill. | |
| I had a question. | |
| There's a reason why nice guys finish last stood the test of time and it's a saying because women punish men that pedestalize them. | |
| That's the point. | |
| Just because you don't punish your guy for pedestalizing you doesn't mean that a majority of women aren't. | |
| Nice guys finish last is a saying that simps use to try to justify why they don't have a woman. | |
| Sims are nice guys. | |
| No, they're not. | |
| They're losers usually. | |
| They're nice. | |
| There's nothing nice about being a clingy, desperate loser. | |
| They're nice guys to women. | |
| They're actually very annoying. | |
| They're super annoying. | |
| Nobody likes that. | |
| They're nice guys for a reason. | |
| They want to smash without saying it directly. | |
| That's why they're nice. | |
| So they're being fake But actual nice guys do pretty well. | |
| Because most people like being respected. | |
| But that's what the phrase is about, though. | |
| That is what the phrase is about. | |
| When people say, anytime you hear a guy be like, nice guys, finish last. | |
| It's usually some loser that's creepy, clingy, and has nothing going on for him. | |
| Listen, bro, I'm a nice guy. | |
| But I have an edge to me, which makes me not as nice. | |
| You're saying simps! | |
| Are nice guys, right? | |
| I'm saying that nice guys finish last is not necessarily true. | |
| People like people that, when people say, here's a saying that people say, women like assholes. | |
| No, they don't. | |
| They like guys that can be confident and aggressive, but it doesn't even have to be a dick, right? | |
| Like, I can tell, like, an edgy joke to a woman where I joke about, like, a dress or something. | |
| That's going to hit a lot differently than calling a woman fat and old, right? | |
| One of those is, like, aggressive and confident and edgy, and the other is just fucking mean. | |
| Nobody wants to be an actual asshole. | |
| That's not, like, a fun experience. | |
| You just want to be someone that's confident and has an edge to them. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You have a better chance of being a dick than being a nice guy is the point. | |
| If we have to go off two extremes. | |
| The point is this. | |
| This is the bottom line. | |
| Don't pedestalize women. | |
| Sure, I agree with that. | |
| But I don't think literally your wife is pedestalizing. | |
| Spending all your time with your chick is pedestalizing to a degree. | |
| Can I just say one thing? | |
| Okay, so I get what you guys are saying definitely makes sense. | |
| Like, when you separate with someone, when you're in the heat of an argument, then that can diffuse things, and it can also cause you to not pedestalize your woman. | |
| But should we really be doing that and making these ridiculous... | |
| We need to live separately versus just learning how to personally develop ourselves to have these conversations in our relationships and actually work through these hardships and difficult times versus needing to literally vacate and go to a whole separate place just to diffuse the tension. | |
| Isn't this something that we can learn intrinsically just one-on-one in relationships? | |
| A lot of those conversations are just for the women. | |
| It's for women to talk it out because she's feeling emotional so that you can bring the man down to an emotional level. | |
| That's going to make me more... | |
| Beta, it's gonna make me, my energy's gonna be lower. | |
| I'm gonna be at your level. | |
| You're gonna cry. | |
| I'm gonna have to talk it out. | |
| We're gonna watch a thing. | |
| We're gonna cuddle. | |
| And that's, I'm not gonna be at my perfect self. | |
| I'm going to be gay. | |
| I don't want to be gay. | |
| I'd rather be on my... | |
| Not being able to talk to women, not being able to live with women. | |
| What you're talking about is the gay shit. | |
| You're describing gay shit. | |
| I want to be able to talk to my woman, but a lot of those conversations that you're talking about where you need to get to know them all the time, you want to see the good and the bad. | |
| I want to see the real you. | |
| I don't want to see all the bad stuff. | |
| I want to know about it, but why do I have to deal with that? | |
| A good relationship is about putting your best foot forward at all times and making each other happy. | |
| Why does love for a lot of these people equate to being showing your bad stuff too? | |
| Crying all the time? | |
| Arguing? | |
| That's the real... | |
| No, it doesn't have to be that. | |
| Why can't we just put our best foot forward at all times? | |
| You don't do that in every relationship. | |
| You don't do that with your friendships either. | |
| You don't do that with your family relationships. | |
| Ideally you do. | |
| No, absolutely not. | |
| Friends are supposed to be there for you when you're down too. | |
| Not just like only my best foot forward, right? | |
| Okay, look. | |
| This is going to end all... | |
| The bottom line is this, simply. | |
| Why you should not live with your girl. | |
| It makes you more attractive as a man. | |
| Period. | |
| None of y'all can argue that. | |
| Because you're working on yourself. | |
| You're busy. | |
| You're not always available. | |
| These are things that are inherently attractive. | |
| So therefore, you will be more attractive to your girl even though she doesn't like it. | |
| That's the bottom line why you should not live with a girl. | |
| It's not from the female perspective. | |
| is from the male perspective, you being a more attractive mate, not always being available. | |
| Alright. | |
| At a super level, as a man... | |
| Yeah, I killed Twitter too. | |
| We're on YouTube and Rumble, guys. | |
| Come on over. | |
| Let's say we argue, right, and And we become at odds. | |
| And you say, you know what? | |
| Fuck this nigga. | |
| I'm gonna call the police and say that he hit me. | |
| Guess what? | |
| Now I'm on the house and you can stay in the house for free. | |
| So ultimately speaking, it could be in a man's not best interest to live with you because you can mess him up at any point in time. | |
| With a toxic girl, I would call the police. | |
| Like you! | |
| Toxic has multiple meanings and what she's saying is... | |
| She said she was toxic. | |
| What she's more so talking about is that sometimes you develop... | |
| Wait, are you a lawyer? | |
| I know you're a lawyer. | |
| Sometimes you develop self-sabotaging behavior and you become aware of it and you try to heal and grow and learn. | |
| So now the next time that she comes into a serious relationship, she'll be more aware of those things that trigger her and she'll be able to better move through those feelings. | |
| But wait, time out. | |
| What I wanted to say before was that you yourself said, oh, you can't apply this standard to the world universally. | |
| But then here you are trying to apply standards universally to all women. | |
| So that's a neutral perspective. | |
| You cannot apply... | |
| Universal things. | |
| The bottom line is that I will have my dating preferences and I will have my standards and I will have my expectations. | |
| And the girl next to me might have completely different ones. | |
| You might have completely different ones. | |
| We don't need to compare and contrast. | |
| I'm going to look for somebody that aligns with my sets. | |
| Whatever they are, you're going to look for somebody that aligns with yours, and we're both going to live full, happy lives. | |
| The debate and the argument of you trying to get people to agree, what we're trying to agree on is not going to ever be agreeable because we're all different people. | |
| So it's like you're applying universal thinking to different people. | |
| Yeah, but there are things that women are universally attracted to and not being available is definitely one of them. | |
| There is a difference, real quick, there is a difference between like when you open a relationship versus like when you're married, right? | |
| Like if you're, for instance, if you're like just getting to know a girl, even all agree that there are certain things you could keep in mind. | |
| So for instance, not responding to her text immediately or some shit like that. | |
| There are some games you could play that might be understandable to make it so more desirable. | |
| But at this point, like if I text my wife or she texts me, we have to respond instantly. | |
| Why the fuck are we playing games with each other? | |
| You gotta keep playing the game even when you're in the relationship with a girl because the thing with women is that they're emotional creatures. | |
| You gotta constantly stimulate their emotions. | |
| Why don't you get your guard down? | |
| If you always play games with a girl... | |
| The reason why men have to play games with women is because women are the fucking, like, they literally play the games. | |
| They start the games. | |
| We're the ones that say, oh, I'm not going to text them back or let me pretend to try hard. | |
| Some women does that. | |
| Some men do that. | |
| A lot of women play games. | |
| The reason why, yo, I wish we could walk up to girls like, I find you attractive. | |
| Let's fornicate. | |
| But that would never work. | |
| Because women don't operate that way. | |
| You guys don't operate on direct communication. | |
| I wish I could go up to y'all and tell you what I really think. | |
| But I can't. | |
| I have to play games. | |
| I have to pretend like I'm attracted to you. | |
| I have to pretend like I'm going to go ahead and care about your fucking problems. | |
| I got to take you on three dates. | |
| I got to hear your shit. | |
| Blah, blah, blah. | |
| I got to bring you back to my place. | |
| Make sure the place is clean. | |
| You don't want to do that? | |
| That's called being in a relationship. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| That's called dating. | |
| What I'm trying to say is that Women want the game, so you have to play the game. | |
| So the thing is that you've got to play the game better than them. | |
| And the big part to play the game is to maintain and leverage, make sure she likes you more than you like her, and make sure that you stay attractive. | |
| But staying attractive a lot of times comes in from not always being available. | |
| Okay, can I ask one question and I'll give you all the floor. | |
| Can we go around the table? | |
| How many girls here have been in a decently long-term relationship? | |
| So we'll say six months plus that have enjoyed having a guy like, fuck with your head like this. | |
| Where you're like, oh yeah, he's not responding to this for a week or whatever. | |
| They're not going to admit that, bro. | |
| It's a toxic trait. | |
| They won't admit that. | |
| Who would? | |
| I've talked to a lot of women. | |
| I've never heard somebody say, yeah, like, my boyfriend, he didn't text me back for like three days, and that was just like the best thing. | |
| Especially on camera, they won't say. | |
| Most women are addicted to emotions, so it's a stimulant. | |
| What is most women are addicted to emotions? | |
| Everybody's addicted to emotions. | |
| Women are addicted to emotions. | |
| We're emotional creatures. | |
| It's a stimulant because you don't get complacent in it if you're constantly wondering, like, damn, does this nigga fuck with me? | |
| That keeps you literally focused on one person instead of getting attention from other people. | |
| It doesn't. | |
| She'll lose interest. | |
| She's not going to stay with you if you're playing incident. | |
| Number one. | |
| And number two, the only types of girls that will maintain interest are the girls that are going to show up at 6am slashing your tires. | |
| That's the type of girls that you're picking for. | |
| If you're a man and you have a frame, she's going to respect you and not be that crazy. | |
| No, she won't respect you. | |
| My man can't even live with me? | |
| My man can't even live with me? | |
| You think she's going to respect that? | |
| That's insane. | |
| That's where a frame comes in. | |
| What is the frame? | |
| I can't be around you for more than four days in a row without being weak. | |
| The frame is his dominance in knowing to put you in your place. | |
| What is your place? | |
| Your place in a separate house? | |
| If you show up to his fucking house unannounced, he's going to be like, yo, this is done. | |
| That's where Frame comes in. | |
| She understands that you hate her. | |
| That you're there to fuck. | |
| These are like the most adversarial relationships I've ever heard in my life. | |
| What? | |
| These relationships are adversarial. | |
| Are you serious right now? | |
| Is he serious right now? | |
| If you respect somebody, it doesn't matter how crazy you get, you get in your emotions, you aren't going to just pull up to their fucking house unannounced without their permission because you're going to know he's not going to tolerate that. | |
| That's what Frame is. | |
| Knowing that he's the leader, he's in charge. | |
| You don't go over there unless he announces like he tells you to come. | |
| Well, I think in a relationship where two people love each other, I think showing up unannounced can be like a fun surprise sometimes. | |
| But I guess you guys like fucking know about ourselves. | |
| On a woman. | |
| That's the serenading. | |
| The man shows up on the woman unannounced. | |
| The woman should never show up on the man unannounced. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| And I would say relationships... | |
| I mean, if you look at what men want versus what women want, it's inherently adversarial. | |
| And the reason why is because men are looking for sex. | |
| Women are looking for resources, time, and attention. | |
| And it's a dance between the two genders to get the other commodity from the other without giving up theirs. | |
| So, for example... | |
| That's not even true, though. | |
| Really? | |
| Really? | |
| Hold on. | |
| Let me explain. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Before you do your explanation. | |
| This is the easiest thing in the world, okay? | |
| I can make so many personal texts here and I'm not doing it. | |
| Listen, if you go and you find an incel, an actual incel, what is the thing they're looking for most in life? | |
| A hug. | |
| It's not sex. | |
| They want the love and warmth and compassion of being in a relationship. | |
| That's what guys and the sex are. | |
| But not just sex, but the idea that somebody loves them and accepts them enough to have sex with them. | |
| That's why you can't tell an incel, yo, just go buy a prostitute and go fuck her for a night. | |
| Or that's why you can't tell any man, if you make enough money, just fuck a different hooker every night. | |
| Because you don't want to fuck hooker. | |
| You want somebody that loves and accepts you. | |
| That's part of being in a relationship. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| You didn't refute. | |
| What I was trying to say was the two genders are adversarial in general. | |
| And the reason why is because both parties want something from the other without necessarily giving up their situation. | |
| I'll give you... | |
| If you guy courts a girl, right? | |
| She wants time, attention, and resources from that man before she gives him sex. | |
| Right? | |
| And I guess, how do I say this? | |
| An indicator of a man having good game is being able to not give all that up while simultaneously getting sex. | |
| That's the parameter that guys use to establish if a guy has good game. | |
| So what I'm saying is that the two genders want the commodity that the other one has without giving up their commodity. | |
| So it's inherently adversarial. | |
| Now, I get what you're saying. | |
| Oh, well, you're in a relationship, etc. | |
| You still have to play the game when you're with your wife. | |
| I think the goal is that if you're with a person, you enjoy giving them the time, the attention, the resources, because it makes both of you happy. | |
| But if you give it to them in an abundant fashion, they don't respect it anymore. | |
| And here's the thing, dude, I wish it wasn't like that, but women don't respect you when they have leverage. | |
| I think when you're selecting for crazy women like this, maybe, but for most women, I think they want you to want to spend time and attention and resources on it. | |
| To get the best out of your girl, where she's super loyal to you, she's not doing anything else on the side, she fucking only loves and mirrors, respects you, there's no fuck shit, and she stays loyal to you, you must have the leverage as the man. | |
| She must have the fear of God that if you leave her, her life is going to suck significantly more. | |
| So what's she going to do? | |
| I'm telling you. | |
| Women operate the best when they're stepping on eggshells, not trying to get you mad or get broken up with. | |
| I think if you spend three days a week away from your woman, she's going to be sucking on her dick in like two months. | |
| That's not true. | |
| You never liked her. | |
| Can I ask a question? | |
| Actually, ultimate question, okay? | |
| The best way to get loyalty then should be military men because they're leaving for It's not about how much time you spend away. | |
| It's not about how much time. | |
| Years is different than a couple days. | |
| Bad argument. | |
| Okay, you have a question or we can move on? | |
| Yeah, someone else has some. | |
| I did, if it's okay. | |
| I'm genuinely curious, Myron, because I saw a little clip of yours that went through, and I'm wondering if maybe where it's getting tripped up is that we're talking about normal people's perception of dating versus you guys are trying to instill the high-value perspective, right? | |
| One of the clips I saw you basically said that you should never actually fall in love with your woman. | |
| I don't know if I misconstrued that. | |
| Could you elaborate on that a little bit more and maybe explain how that maybe correlates to what you're talking about here? | |
| You shouldn't pedestalize her and think that you're in love the way that movies tell you to be in love. | |
| She's your world. | |
| She's your everything where you give everything away to her because then you end up living with her for eight years and then she talks about triggering and trauma and she'll end the relationship for no reason. | |
| You can invest everything into a relationship but that's not inherently what women want. | |
| Women want to constantly try to chase your validation. | |
| It is what it is. | |
| You call it Game, playing games, there's a reason why it's called game when you try to pick up a girl. | |
| It's always a game. | |
| Love is a back and forth. | |
| You say it's adversarial, but you are always in competition to some extent. | |
| Women will constantly shit test you. | |
| They always want to see if you're the man that's capable of leading. | |
| They want to see if you're the guy in charge. | |
| If you're spending eight years with her all the time, you're going to lose your frame. | |
| You're going to lose that masculine essence about you. | |
| That's what attracted her to you in the first place. | |
| That's not true. | |
| Alright, so I think she asked me, but it's okay. | |
| My thing is, I say, you don't fall in love with a woman, you have love for a woman. | |
| And the reason why I say you don't fall in love is because when a man falls in love, what ends up happening is the rational thought is gone. | |
| Now they're acting off of emotion. | |
| And the last thing you want to be as a man is acting off of emotion with your woman. | |
| That's her job to fall in love and be emotional. | |
| Women need that. | |
| Men don't need that. | |
| Men need to be in a rational mindset at all times, even when dealing with their girl. | |
| Because the thing is that when you're with a girl and she does stupid shit or pisses you off or she disobeys you or whatever, you need to be in the rational frame to be like, that wasn't acceptable behavior. | |
| This needs to be corrected right now. | |
| But you can't operate and tell your girl that if you're in love with her. | |
| Right. | |
| Don't you feel like guys are so much more logical anyway, just naturally, that it can supersede that? | |
| No, because we have feminized men nowadays that think that falling in love is the way to go. | |
| And the reality is, no, you don't fall in love. | |
| You're not a woman. | |
| You need to be the leader in the relationship, always have frame and be the dominant. | |
| And to do that, you have to have love for her and not fall in love with her. | |
| But guys nowadays are extremely feminized and they think that they can love a woman the same way she loves him. | |
| And that's not going to work. | |
| Do you want your woman to fall in love with you? | |
| Yes, that's how it's gotta go. | |
| So then you have to be true to who you actually are and not pretend. | |
| You have to be able to be a human and let her love you as a human. | |
| Because that's a bigger game. | |
| If we can solve your brain and figure out what's actually in your head. | |
| So even if you have fantasies about other women, but we can help you become a better man. | |
| So that's a better game. | |
| That's a better game for us to change. | |
| This is why you're wrong. | |
| Because women love men opportunistically for what they provide. | |
| You wouldn't even give me a chance if I wasn't the man in the first place. | |
| Maybe you have to provide more than just finances. | |
| You might be able to help me come in and make me a little bit better, but you're not going to make me the man. | |
| I was already the man, which is why you fell in love with me in the first place. | |
| But if you can't be a man while living with me, are you really the man if you don't have control? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| I do have control. | |
| That's why I'm leaving the house and going to my other one. | |
| But you have to leave, so you're running from your own self-control. | |
| Oh, that's a nice reframe. | |
| I'm not running. | |
| I'm choosing to leave because I want to leave and I don't want to be around you all the time. | |
| But why do you not have the self-control? | |
| It's not about self-control. | |
| It's about I know what women are attracted to and I know what's best for the relationship to last. | |
| So I'm not going to give my girl all my time and attention at all times because women don't respect that. | |
| But you're saying men become weak when they live with their women. | |
| They do. | |
| Then that's their fault. | |
| That's not the woman's fault. | |
| That's the man's fault. | |
| No, no. | |
| But see, here's the thing. | |
| You got to set yourself up in an environment to win sometimes. | |
| Being around your girl all the time is going to make you softer. | |
| There's a reason why men that get married that have kids, their testosterone drops. | |
| You have to do things sometimes overtly to make sure that you still maintain the edge. | |
| I want to say something. | |
| I think the... | |
| Well, it happens because when a man is spending the most time with the woman, they're, like, always on their feminine side. | |
| Because as a woman, you always want to stay home. | |
| Or, well, most of the time you want to stay home and you want to be, like, on your feminine. | |
| So if the man is always at home, it's, like, spending, like, it's not, like... | |
| They're not complimenting themselves. | |
| They're always feminine with the women. | |
| So we as women, we always want the masculine side of the men. | |
| And we want to see it 100% all the time. | |
| So that's why they'll need space and time for themselves to keep that masculine need in. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| Can I just, on that note, I think it's this ideology that if you live with your woman, you suddenly have no other outside life and your lives just completely merged together. | |
| Both parties should still be independent. | |
| You should still have friends. | |
| You should still have a job. | |
| Like, if you have to travel for work, like, these are other outlets that you're not around just women all the time. | |
| Like, you still have male friends. | |
| I mean, yes, of course. | |
| But if you're living with your partner all the time, You're going to spend most of the time with your partner. | |
| That is not true. | |
| When you live together with a partner, unless you're literally in New York City in a box with each other, you have different parts of the house you hang out in. | |
| Just because you're living together doesn't mean you spend every waking moment together. | |
| It's the same space. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| It doesn't mean you're right next to each other. | |
| For a healthy relationship... | |
| I live in Miami just like you do. | |
| You're going to see her, but that's okay. | |
| You should be able to be around each other and not be in each other's face 100% of the time. | |
| Really basic things like being able to sleep together every day, being able to wake up in the morning and see each other. | |
| These are things you can do without encroaching on each other's space. | |
| It's a fine thing. | |
| You're definitely encroaching on their space and you're sleeping with them every day. | |
| How? | |
| It's literally your bed! | |
| They're right there! | |
| What's wrong with it? | |
| If they're satisfying you... | |
| Again, ladies, ladies, you guys are failing to realize that I'm talking about the man maintaining attraction with the woman. | |
| Always being available for your girl is going to make you less attractive. | |
| Period. | |
| But I mean, I see you're saying we're failing to understand something and other women are just disagreeing and expressing that we're attracted to other things and maybe we fall in this exception. | |
| Let me stop you real quick. | |
| What women say they're attracted to and what they're aroused by two different things women typically get politically correct answers when it comes to what they're attracted to They will never say the truth about I like you to spank me and you know pull my hair. | |
| I want you to choke me Oh, I want you to take Normie. | |
| I want you to have other women so that I feel like I'm the one being picked versus that. | |
| Women will never actually admit what they're really attracted to and what they're aroused by. | |
| You can say that, but you're never going to find women outside of these very hyper-niche red pill spaces that are like, oh yeah, I found a really good guy. | |
| He leaves like half the week every week. | |
| That's never going to happen. | |
| Those relationships don't exist. | |
| They don't exist. | |
| Those guys just don't have the ability to do so. | |
| If most guys don't have the ability to do it, then most relationships aren't like that by default. | |
| Most guys don't have the ability to do it, so they have to go ahead and do what? | |
| Submit to the woman's will. | |
| Live with her, give her all this attention. | |
| Why do you say submit to the woman's will? | |
| Maybe you both enjoy it. | |
| That's not what men are doing. | |
| Is that impossible? | |
| Honestly, what they're talking about is probably Mercy's subconscious as well. | |
| Because, for example, my ex, when he would leave and go away to work somewhere for a week, I would miss him so fucking much. | |
| I'm not sure he was gone. | |
| Like, so much. | |
| And so, like, I see the point. | |
| I get what you're saying, Destiny, but it's not like, oh, I'm going to blatantly do this just to avert this reaction. | |
| It's just something that naturally happens. | |
| Yeah, no, no. | |
| But what you're saying is true when people go on trips and stuff, you can do that. | |
| But that's different than, like, we've got it structured so I'm gone 180 days of the year. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Like, I agree with you in that regard. | |
| But psychologically, what they're saying makes sense. | |
| No, no, no, no, no, hold on. | |
| Psychologically, what I'm saying doesn't make sense because it's a big difference between my man wants to go somewhere for a week because he's got responsibilities or whatever versus I'm putting four days of space between us because I've decided that's what I need to do to make you like me. | |
| That's what I'm saying. | |
| Planning that, true, but ultimately the outcome is the same when someone is away and you miss them. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| The same, but okay, again, the intention, I completely agree with what you're saying there. | |
| Yes. | |
| But it doesn't have to be structured like I'm going to spend exactly... | |
| You don't have to write out the calendar days of when you're going to go spend time away. | |
| It really doesn't matter how much. | |
| If you were to tell your woman, listen, on Saturday, I'm going to leave the house. | |
| And she's like, well, what's up? | |
| It's like, I just want to get away from you for a day. | |
| No, no, you don't say that. | |
| You don't say that. | |
| So now you're lying about why you're leaving. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| You don't explain yourself. | |
| That's another thing too. | |
| Like, bro, I don't explain myself to women. | |
| I'm just going to do this. | |
| I'll see you later. | |
| That's it. | |
| I don't sit here and negotiate or any of this stuff. | |
| I'm the leader. | |
| She's a subordinate. | |
| I don't owe her a fucking answer. | |
| It's either she follows into frame or she doesn't. | |
| Or the relationship is not going to work. | |
| I already know the answer, but just to ask. | |
| If the woman said the same thing, she's like, okay, well, I'm going to be gone on Sunday. | |
| You would need to know that. | |
| Here's the reason why I need to know. | |
| I'm the authority in the relationship. | |
| I am the leader. | |
| I'm the protector. | |
| So I must know. | |
| Her, on the other hand, she is a subordinate. | |
| So therefore, we have different roles in the situation. | |
| She must tell me where she's going. | |
| I must know because I'm responsible for her safety. | |
| She's not responsible for my safety, so I don't have to tell her shit. | |
| Are you my parent? | |
| Are you my caregiver? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| This is where this is coming from. | |
| You guys think men and women are equal. | |
| I'm saying we're not. | |
| At all. | |
| Right. | |
| She said independent. | |
| Like, would they both need to be independent? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| The woman should be dependent and the man should be independent. | |
| One should be the leader, one should be the follower. | |
| That's the best thing. | |
| Well, I didn't go to law school to be dependent. | |
| I will have my own money. | |
| And if a man can't handle that, that's tough. | |
| You see the way you're entering the relationship is like, oh, if you're a bitch about it, then I'm like, okay, but it's going to be harder for you to fall in line and be in a relationship than it is for a submissive woman. | |
| And that's fine. | |
| There's men that exist that value that. | |
| Maybe y'all don't. | |
| There's probably going to be a submissive man. | |
| It's probably not going to be a masculine man. | |
| I don't agree with that. | |
| I don't agree with that. | |
| But all I'm saying is, like I said earlier, I can have my standards, my expectations. | |
| I can value what I value. | |
| You guys can all value what you value. | |
| But you don't need to try to tell me. | |
| I'm not trying to tell you that. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I know you're not. | |
| I'm talking about that in general. | |
| Nobody's trying to tell you. | |
| Oh, women want to admit. | |
| Women say this. | |
| I can speak for myself. | |
| I have a voice. | |
| I'm expressing how I feel. | |
| I'm expressing what I think. | |
| Yes, Queen. | |
| I don't need to. | |
| So you speak for all women? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| I just said. | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| So there, in your own words, you're speaking from a limited perspective because you're only speaking on yourself. | |
| I'm speaking for women in general. | |
| Women don't like guys that give them too much attention and time. | |
| I like guys that give... | |
| What you like is irrelevant. | |
| I don't give a fuck about your personal experience. | |
| I'm talking about women in general. | |
| You guys keep saying, me, me, me, me, me. | |
| We don't give a fuck about y'all. | |
| I'm talking about women in general. | |
| This is how it goes. | |
| You might be an exception to the rule, but that does not mean that the general masses of women don't respond favorably to what I'm saying, which is what? | |
| Retracting attention, being attractive, keeping your masculinity on point, staying sharp. | |
| These things are inherently going to be attractive to a majority of women. | |
| Maybe not you guys because you like attention. | |
| That's y'all. | |
| But most women want a guy who isn't always going to be available. | |
| That's my point. | |
| You cannot continue to speak from your own personal expense and then try to attribute that to the general masses. | |
| That's retarded and low IQ thinking. | |
| And also, I understand that you're a lawyer, you're an independent, and that's fine. | |
| Like, I'm not going to tell you to go change that. | |
| I'm not a lawyer. | |
| I'm a law student. | |
| And that's an important distinction because we're not allowed to say that. | |
| Okay, sure. | |
| Okay. | |
| But eventually, it's going to be harder for you to settle down in the future. | |
| This is the reason that more people, that more women are single and more men are single is because women are higher anymore at that level. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'm not afraid of that, though. | |
| I don't really care. | |
| What you're underestimating is how it's not about spending time away, like allocating out days of the week. | |
| It's about how important male camaraderie is. | |
| Like, if you think about the happiest state of a man, it's usually like guys will talk about their football team, their fraternity. | |
| They'll talk about the friendships that they had when they were living together. | |
| And then they'll see each other afterwards after they're married. | |
| And then they'll meet at a bar. | |
| They're having a beer. | |
| They're like, man, you change after I go. | |
| Oh, well, the kids. | |
| Oh, the wife and the kids. | |
| Having that male camaraderie around you is how a man stays on his tip-top shape, and that's in his happiest place. | |
| I know that you're trying to call it effeminate and gay, that men want to live together, but having that around you, having that male space around you is extremely important. | |
| Also, why are there so many sexist marriages, ladies? | |
| Explain that to me. | |
| I have sex whenever my man wants it. | |
| Why do you keep bringing it back to yourself? | |
| You should. | |
| I'm just saying. | |
| We have a panel for an agreement. | |
| Of course, they're going to get a perspective. | |
| I won't have to do it. | |
| You got to be able to have critical thinking skills and not attribute every single thing I say back to your own existence. | |
| A lot of women really like sex. | |
| Like, y'all don't like sex. | |
| Well, y'all have sex a lot, but the reality is a lot of y'all can't even last long or actually have sex more than two to three times because your dicks get sore or sensitive. | |
| She said a lot. | |
| She said a lot. | |
| She got experience. | |
| She said a lot. | |
| Ladies, ladies, the fact is this. | |
| Why do so many men report sexless marriages? | |
| I'm telling you, a big part of it is because they're too well available for their girl and women need to feel that emotional tug. | |
| Oh, he's not always here, etc. | |
| It makes the heart grow fonder. | |
| There's a reason why they say distance makes the heart grow fonder. | |
| It's true. | |
| Just because you like all that attention and the guy being on top of you doesn't mean that other women do. | |
| You can't use your own relationship as the paradigm to base other situations where your situation might not match. | |
| I don't know why we're assuming that the sexist stuff is coming from women. | |
| A lot of guys these days are jerking off so fucking hard they can't even come from fucking. | |
| Destiny, here's an example of what happens when we live with a woman. | |
| It happens all the time. | |
| It's the guys that are reporting the sexist marriages, though. | |
| Here we go. | |
| How it started, how it's ending. | |
| I'm telling you, bro. | |
| You get lazy, you get comfortable, and things start to slack off. | |
| And as a man, you need time and space to make yourself more of more value. | |
| It happens all the time, man. | |
| So what? | |
| It has a little... | |
| So what? | |
| Isn't he happy? | |
| He went from healthy to fat. | |
| Okay, he has a six-pack. | |
| When she gets bored and says, oh, nigga, you fat. | |
| No, I'm out. | |
| Maybe she likes it. | |
| Look how it started. | |
| Look how it started. | |
| That's what she was attracted to. | |
| That's how it started, because she was attracted to that. | |
| Now he looks like that. | |
| The nigga that looks like that is going to take her from him. | |
| And bottom line, she's not going to motivate him to get in the gym. | |
| You know who is? | |
| If you're living with men, they're going to be like, yo, push-ups right now. | |
| Or they're going to be in the gym, yo, let's spar right now. | |
| Your girl's going to be like, let's cuddle now. | |
| When you love someone, you want them to be their best self. | |
| You don't want them to be their best self. | |
| You don't really give a fuck about what they look like in the long term because you like that person. | |
| If you love somebody healthy, you want them to be their best self. | |
| If you only care about what the person looks like. | |
| It's not about looks, babe. | |
| It's about health. | |
| If you love someone, you want them to be their best self. | |
| He can come to the gym with them. | |
| One mic at a time. | |
| Shout out to Dequan for sending this post from Twitter. | |
| But keep in mind, that's only one aspect of what we're seeing. | |
| We're just seeing the manifestation of his physical. | |
| The mental is as well comfortable and lazy. | |
| I'm telling you. | |
| It takes time. | |
| The physicality is just an outward manifestation of him being lazy. | |
| But you were trying to say something? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Finish what you're saying. | |
| I don't remember. | |
| If you love somebody, that looks shouldn't matter. | |
| Stupid. | |
| No, don't... | |
| Okay, so if you love someone and the person kind of gets lazy and get a few pounds and stuff, okay, but it's not like that bad, okay? | |
| If he wants to get in shape, you can like motivate him to get in shape because that's what you do. | |
| That's what you do when you're in a couple, like you talk and you find solution and you motivate. | |
| Okay, so I used to go to the gym and then my man used to... | |
| What? | |
| I was going to the gym and my man took a little bit of foul and then I motivated him to go to the gym with me. | |
| At first he didn't want it to, but then I motivated him. | |
| I'm pretty sure that's actually even statistically true. | |
| You can look this up. | |
| But I'm pretty sure that men in marriages tend to even be healthier than single men. | |
| Because wives usually push you to do things like go to the doctor, get a physical, take care of yourself, or like eat healthy. | |
| Because men generally don't give a fuck about anything. | |
| But that's not the argument though. | |
| That is exactly the argument. | |
| That being around a woman in that way can keep you healthier to some extent. | |
| Relationship-wise, for the man to be missed and be actually longed for, you need that space. | |
| But just to answer your point as well, look, listen, I get it. | |
| Looks may not matter to you. | |
| Once again, most women, how they meet the man is how they want him to end up on the long term. | |
| But he's not obese though. | |
| It looks like maybe... | |
| That wasn't the point, baby. | |
| Yeah, but that's what... | |
| Well, you guys said he was fat. | |
| He's not fat. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| He's on the way. | |
| We're just saying how you meet somebody is how you want them to be forever. | |
| The most part of it. | |
| If they change, that's cool and all, but you might be like, damn, it's kind of fat now. | |
| And you might say, oh yeah, good workout! | |
| But... | |
| You said earlier, he didn't want to at the very beginning. | |
| Why is that? | |
| He's comfortable. | |
| He didn't want to. | |
| Yeah, men can't be comfortable. | |
| Men can't be comfortable. | |
| And honestly, ladies, if you're at a point where you got to motivate your man to do shit, you're already lost. | |
| I love to motivate my man to do shit because he's going to motivate me to do stuff. | |
| This is how a couple work. | |
| This is how a couple works. | |
| There's a lot of books, personal growth books that literally say that choosing the right partner is really key to that process. | |
| But one thing that I will say is when a lot of those books were written, it's a totally different time to what we're in now. | |
| And women are very different to how they were back then. | |
| So had these same people been writing the books today, maybe they would have written them a little bit differently. | |
| No, I think you should still be choosing a partner that generally improves your lives and pushes you to improve. | |
| That should absolutely be a key criteria. | |
| You both push yourself. | |
| This is like an exchange. | |
| My point is that it's better to have friends that are pushing you to be better because ultimately men don't really listen to women. | |
| We don't want to. | |
| We don't want to have you telling us what to do and you don't want to be the one telling us what to do. | |
| It's better to hear that advice from other guys who are on the same level. | |
| If you are the one that's going to have to tell me the relationship is going to fail, you're going to become unattracted, it's going to be losery. | |
| Imagine you telling me, do 10 push-ups. | |
| And you're screaming at me, do 10 push-ups. | |
| But you know, in a relationship, sometimes you do stuff that you don't want to do because that's compromise. | |
| Well, that's how it fails. | |
| I would rather not compromise in a relationship at all if I don't have to. | |
| But you're going to have to compromise. | |
| Love is compromising. | |
| For sure, you're going to have to compromise in a relationship. | |
| But ideally, you don't. | |
| A better relationship is when you're putting your best self forward. | |
| Okay, that's an expectation. | |
| That's what idealistic means. | |
| If you're talking Islam and shit, isn't there like some virtue in holding yourself back from certain things that are haram? | |
| That friction that's created in life of you taking a little bit of a step back from things like... | |
| What did I say that was haram? | |
| No, hold on, hold on. | |
| Focus on, use your brain, the whole point of what I'm saying, right? | |
| You said haram. | |
| There are some things in life that you take a step back from because denying yourself certain pleasures, part of that journey of being a virtuous person is saying, I don't need everything in life. | |
| And sometimes there's a little bit of like growth in the struggle. | |
| Couldn't you argue the same thing exists in relationships? | |
| There is some compromise of love, but the reason why you compromise is because ultimately you're building something that's better than what you would have had, just chasing, I guess, girls on your own. | |
| If you want to bring the Quran up, the Quran really values the differences between masculinity and femininity. | |
| It tells us to be separate. | |
| Women don't stay in the same mosque as men. | |
| They're in a different section. | |
| They really value men being in tip-top shape at all times and being the leaders and providers. | |
| Yeah, but I bet husbands and wives live together in Islam. | |
| Not always. | |
| Amina. | |
| Not always. | |
| 99% of the time. | |
| It's not a requirement. | |
| You're saying go by the Quran. | |
| There's no verse in the Quran that says you need to live with your wife. | |
| No, the reason why I bring up the Quran is because you're trying to make this argument that compromise is bad. | |
| But sometimes you compromise on things to build something more than what you could have otherwise. | |
| You're doing this workout stuff, right? | |
| Going to the gym is a compromise for you. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Yes, it is. | |
| What am I compromising? | |
| You could be eating more fast food. | |
| You could be eating more shit. | |
| You could be lazy on the couch. | |
| You could do other things in life that are more fun. | |
| You could be drinking alcohol, but you don't. | |
| You go to the gym, you suffer a little bit. | |
| You compromise there. | |
| So you build a better body and you're healthier. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| What he's arguing is that it's the man that he doesn't compromise because the woman is what he's saying. | |
| It's like he's compromising because it's intrinsic to him as a man. | |
| I must suffer and sacrifice certain things to become better. | |
| That's fine. | |
| It's compromising on his own end. | |
| Compromising for a woman's feelings is not the priority for a man. | |
| If it's not, that's fine. | |
| But then you're not looking for a relationship. | |
| Which is fine. | |
| If you think a relationship is all compromise, then go ahead. | |
| Part of a relationship is a good relationship. | |
| Part of it is compromise. | |
| That's true in business. | |
| You compromise with your business partners. | |
| It's true in friendships. | |
| You compromise with your friends. | |
| What do you want to do tonight? | |
| Okay, we'll do this instead. | |
| You compromise in every single relationship with family. | |
| You do it with family. | |
| Why would you not compromise with your... | |
| The one has to compromise significantly more than the man does. | |
| And it's better for the relationship. | |
| The person who compromises more... | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| The person who compromises more does not have frame. | |
| So, in other words, the woman needs to compromise more to the man. | |
| I don't even know what that means. | |
| I mean, like, both partners should be compromising. | |
| Yeah, but the woman to a significant extent more. | |
| It's better if the woman fits into the man's frame. | |
| That's how it's got to go. | |
| The person who compromises more, right, is in a less leveraged position. | |
| The person that compromises less... | |
| All this thought of like leverage and my partner leaving me immediately if I don't have... | |
| It's not that complicated. | |
| One is the leader, one is the follower. | |
| The follower compromises more. | |
| Okay, but this is why like all these women today don't want to date these men is because they believe shit like this. | |
| Like most people aren't looking to be... | |
| When you're talking to women that are getting degrees and are fucking lawyers and shit, they're not out here looking for a guy to lead them around like their fucking dad. | |
| That's not what they're looking for. | |
| They want partners in life. | |
| They want partners. | |
| They become leaders because they can't find leaders. | |
| Explain this to me, that if women really want partners, why is that no matter how much money a woman makes, she still wants a guy to make 56% more than her? | |
| She does, but that number has been decreasing for the past 20 years. | |
| It used to be like 24% of women would be okay with a guy out-earning her, or her out-earning a guy, and that number's gotten increased over time. | |
| Here's the difference. | |
| Here's the difference, though. | |
| When a man makes that money, he doesn't give a fuck what the woman makes, but when the woman makes that money, she does care. | |
| That is not true. | |
| Men absolutely care. | |
| A woman's income? | |
| Yes. | |
| Really? | |
| Yes. | |
| So, I'll bring this up. | |
| This is something you guys have a really hard time understanding because you guys are all new money, okay? | |
| Old money doesn't move like that. | |
| Where you say like, I don't care about the woman's education, I don't care about the woman's income, blah, blah, blah. | |
| That is absolutely not true. | |
| If you go to old money areas where there are wealthy people, they all go to the same schools together, they're in the same clubs together, they're in the same fucking apartment complex here, they live in the same neighbors, and they have the same family friends. | |
| There are not rich guys in old money areas that are going to fucking Starbucks to pick up a woman. | |
| Now, new money shit... | |
| YouTube and actors. | |
| That's not a good argument. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| That's not an argument. | |
| That's reality. | |
| Old money values education. | |
| Old money, of course. | |
| You don't see rich Jewish guys getting married to like these random fucking high school girls. | |
| They care about the father's money. | |
| But also, how did those old money women make money? | |
| Their dads. | |
| Their family. | |
| They weren't out there earning. | |
| The point is, we don't care how women earn their money. | |
| Of course, they're in those circles because they come from wealthy families. | |
| New money people don't, but if you're part of a decent family that's doing well, and you're a well-off guy, and you're going to fucking Harvard or some shit, and you bring home a random woman that you met who's just like some fucking whatever, your family's going to look down at you for that. | |
| None of your family's going to be like, oh, that's really cool. | |
| Because you're mentioning, here's the thing. | |
| You have outside influencers getting into the relationship, but if the guy was left to his own devices, which you're seeing now in modern day, they will go ahead and marry down. | |
| Guys are never left to their own devices. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Because you're saying old money. | |
| The reason old money means it's family lineage and they had money for generations. | |
| So they're like, yo, we got to keep wealth in the family. | |
| We don't want you to marry some bum off the street. | |
| But it's not because the guy didn't want to necessarily do it. | |
| It's because they're trying to protect the money and the wealth of the family so they can have generational wealth. | |
| But going back now today, guys that make money now, they don't give a shit because men never had an issue with marrying now. | |
| Yeah, and what's happening to them? | |
| They leave the NBA and they go bankrupt in five years. | |
| But that's not the point. | |
| No, that is exactly the point. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| You're changing the goalpost. | |
| The argument is that men will date down. | |
| Women won't. | |
| That's the argument. | |
| First of all, women absolutely will. | |
| New money, women won't. | |
| Didn't Britney Spears marry her fucking back-up There are a lot of exceptions to the celebrity world like that. | |
| All I'm saying is that if you are highly educated, you tend to marry highly educated people. | |
| If you make a lot of money, you tend to marry people that make a lot of money. | |
| People tend to stick with their own. | |
| Their same neighborhoods, their same cultural areas, their same income levels, their same education. | |
| That's been true of all of human history. | |
| It hasn't changed now. | |
| People that are super educated don't generally get with people with a high school degree. | |
| People that are super wealthy don't generally marry. | |
| Now, there are some exceptions, especially the new money world, but in general, people tend to stick with their own. | |
| That's like data that's been borne out in every single country since the dawn of fucking time. | |
| The point is this. | |
| Women will not compromise and date down the same way a man will, is my argument. | |
| Okay, men won't date down. | |
| Men will date down. | |
| No, they won't. | |
| They absolutely will. | |
| No, they won't. | |
| Do it every day. | |
| I will. | |
| Yeah, because you guys are new money. | |
| Bro! | |
| But also you want women to be dependent on you. | |
| What I'm saying is that most people, most men that are of actual status and have actual background and come from these types of families are not looking to date any random woman. | |
| They're looking to date other people that are of similar levels of education and class. | |
| But they're going on dates with girls that don't have a title? | |
| No, they fucking well. | |
| You're not going to find some Harvard lawyer guy who's on a date with a woman that works at Target. | |
| Yes, he is. | |
| He absolutely was right. | |
| Half of these people that they date on, it's just not true. | |
| And if you look at the stats on who people actually marry and get with, it's not like that. | |
| They might not marry her, but they'll give her a chance to date her. | |
| They will definitely give her an opportunity. | |
| No, they won't. | |
| You won't even get a shot with a guy like that. | |
| You will never get a shot with a guy like that. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Haven't more humiliated as being created in the last like five years than like ever before in history? | |
| They'll divorce a woman with a degree and go find a young girl at Hooters, bro. | |
| No, they won't. | |
| Yes, they won't. | |
| Again, it's like the easiest data-driven argument in the world. | |
| Men and women tend to marry in similar backgrounds. | |
| But there's a boy or a girl that is lower than them, is my point. | |
| No, they won't. | |
| They won't. | |
| But Destiny, if there's been more millionaires created in the last five years and it's going to continue to do so, then there's going to be more new money than there is old money. | |
| So doesn't that make sense that ultimately the culture can change over time and this perception can change over time? | |
| I mean, it might change over time, but it hasn't yet. | |
| Do you feel like it hasn't changed at all, even a little bit? | |
| The needle hasn't moved at all? | |
| There's not that many millionaires. | |
| I'm not creating my dating standards around millionaires. | |
| When I say old money, that doesn't necessarily mean that your family is a billionaire. | |
| It just means you're in a well-educated family. | |
| Again, these people tend to go to the same grade schools from an early age. | |
| They tend to go to similar colleges. | |
| They tend to be in similar social circles. | |
| You're not getting a lot of crossover from really wealthy families to people that are really poor. | |
| They just don't inhabit the same areas. | |
| But there's just so many crypto millionaires nowadays, right? | |
| There's not so many. | |
| And social media people. | |
| Well, there's so many people, at least what we see online, right? | |
| Well, what you see online, but of course they're the most visible people. | |
| But there's not that many crypto millionaires. | |
| Okay, crypto millionaires was a bad example, but there's so many people who are making a lot more money than ever before, especially in the online space with the increases in technology. | |
| And so what I'm saying is with that, maybe this perception might be changing. | |
| It might change, but even in those spaces, my guess is those people are still probably going to tend to date those people. | |
| Look how many Twitch streamers date each other. | |
| Look how many YouTubers date each other. | |
| Look how many people that work in crypto people even to fucking date each other. | |
| That's still pretty common. | |
| You know crypto millionaires shacking up? | |
| What? | |
| You know crypto millionaires getting married? | |
| That was a poor example, by the way. | |
| I'm saying that these people tend to all hang out in their own fucking circles. | |
| They go on retreats together and shit. | |
| They go on all these little fucking cruises and shit. | |
| They all tend to be with their own type of people. | |
| Maybe in your circle, but that's just not your... | |
| It's true of all of human society and all of human history. | |
| You can say my circle, but you're not going to talk about that. | |
| People hang around their circles, but what matters more to a man is a woman who's going to fall into his frame. | |
| That comes first before any of that stuff. | |
| It doesn't really matter. | |
| The man thinks the woman is on his row. | |
| It's... | |
| Men historically have always been okay with dating a woman below their own economic status and social status. | |
| Below economic status, sure, but that's not always how value is measured for a woman. | |
| You said it yourself. | |
| A guy's not dating down because he sees a woman with less money because he's not dating down to the guy. | |
| He's not selecting for that strategy, right? | |
| But I'm talking about from a socioeconomic standpoint, he's dating down. | |
| Okay, but in that case, women always date down because women are always prettier than men. | |
| You see how reductive that is? | |
| Because you would say that women are more attractive than men. | |
| I specify a socioeconomic status. | |
| I didn't say it from a beauty standard, I said socioeconomically. | |
| That's fine. | |
| But if I use your argument, I say, well, from looks, women are always dating down. | |
| But the smart answer is you say, well, they're not dating down. | |
| They're just selecting for something different. | |
| Much like the guy is selecting for something different, right? | |
| You always make this argument that women are hypergamous. | |
| Does that mean that men are hypogamous or hypogamous? | |
| They're always selecting for lower? | |
| Well, sure, because it doesn't make sense, right? | |
| If hypergamy exists, hyper, meaning choosing up, that means that men must necessarily be hypogamous, choosing down. | |
| Do they do that? | |
| No, Destiny. | |
| Destiny, you're not making sense. | |
| If women are dating up, then men must be dating down. | |
| Women are dating up socioeconomically and status-wise is what I tried to say. | |
| And I qualify that by saying socioeconomically clearly. | |
| I didn't mention looks or anything like that. | |
| Now, you went ahead and switched to, oh, but if the girl's prettier than the guy, is she dating down? | |
| Whatever. | |
| Well, looks are subjective. | |
| Success isn't. | |
| If you're a millionaire, everyone knows your fucking millionaire is successful. | |
| That's irrefutable. | |
| Beauty, however, is subjective. | |
| So that's why I didn't use the beauty standard. | |
| I used the socioeconomic standard. | |
| Okay, you'd say beauty is subjective, but I'm pretty sure we could all agree with some pretty concrete things. | |
| Yes, there are some broad beauty standards, but what I'm saying is that I use socioeconomic status because that's easy to quantify. | |
| Sure. | |
| But then again, I will retreat back to the stats that if you look, people in the top quintile tend to marry people in the top quintile, people in the top... | |
| The 20%, 20%, 20%, they all date each other. | |
| That's typically how it goes. | |
| It's not all these poor women that are married. | |
| You're talking about marrying specifically. | |
| If you're a Rothschild, you're going to want to marry someone that's on your level. | |
| I'm not talking about just banging random chicks. | |
| Anybody will fucking fuck anybody. | |
| We're talking about old money. | |
| The girl's dad is the one who has the money. | |
| Women are typically feminine and they're not career driven because they don't have to be. | |
| It depends on the community. | |
| They can absolutely be career driven. | |
| I have family that's old money because of El Salvador. | |
| I think I understand that more. | |
| Yeah, you date in your circle, but the women aren't trying to be lawyers and all this. | |
| Daddy has the money. | |
| So if they're marrying within the family due to finances, my father has the money, not the woman. | |
| My dad literally has the money and I'm trying to be a lawyer. | |
| So that refutes your exact point. | |
| Are you holding money? | |
| Are you part of a society that helped build? | |
| What he's talking about, old money is education level, and I'm a second generation lawyer, so by that standard, yes. | |
| So that's... | |
| Men that are successful and have wealth and have education aren't raising daughters just to be little, like, wives. | |
| They're raising them to be also successful and to have autonomy and to be able to do things in the world. | |
| That's how those men move. | |
| Hmm. | |
| But who's going to command more attention and value in the sexual marketplace? | |
| A male lawyer or a female lawyer? | |
| The male lawyer is going to command more sexual attention because women care about a man's title, socioeconomic status, earning capacity, etc. | |
| Her, right, being a lawyer is not going to carry the same value as a man being a lawyer. | |
| And it depends on the types of guys she's looking for. | |
| Not the guys that are just looking for a 20-year-old fuckable bang mate, sure. | |
| But, like, if she's, like, at a fucking law firm somewhere, she's probably going to be hit on, like, a fuck dog because it's going to be 90% lawyers there. | |
| Yeah, they'll hit on her and they'll hit on another girl that works at Starbucks that's 19. | |
| Sure they will, but they'd rather marry her. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| You're a lawyer, a lawyer, a law firm? | |
| Who are you going to bring home to your family? | |
| This girl that I met at Starbucks? | |
| Or a girl that's working at my fucking law firm? | |
| Who do mom and dad want to see more of her? | |
| Her being a lawyer isn't as high on the totem pole to make her attractive. | |
| Versus a man being a lawyer, that's going to be extremely high on a woman's totem pole of being attractive. | |
| I disagree. | |
| Like, what, you disagree that a male lawyer has more sexual market value than a female lawyer? | |
| It depends on where you're at. | |
| Like, for instance, like, do you think a computer programming woman has high sexual value? | |
| You can say no, but put her in a college where it's 99% men or women in the army, right? | |
| By the time you graduate from college with your law degree, et cetera, let's say you've got a 30-year-old male lawyer, you've got a 30-year-old female lawyer. | |
| The 30-year-old male lawyer is going to be much more attractive than that 30-year-old female lawyer. | |
| And the reason why is because that man has more options than that woman. | |
| Sure, broadly speaking. | |
| But the options that that woman is losing are people she wouldn't want to date anyway. | |
| But those men are now being ostracized because of her status. | |
| Had she not been a lawyer, she would have had more options. | |
| That's true. | |
| But the options that she's losing are probably options she wouldn't want to be with anyway. | |
| No, if her status was lower, she wouldn't care. | |
| Well, but her status isn't lower. | |
| She's a lawyer. | |
| If a woman is a lawyer at 30, and there are some guys that don't want to date her because she's a lawyer, she would never want to be with those guys. | |
| That's the whole point. | |
| So she's effectively lowered her own ability to get a mate because of her success. | |
| That's what I'm trying to say. | |
| You say lower ability. | |
| when I go on Tinder and I say no crackheads, I'm lowering my options too. | |
| That's okay though. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Come on, Destiny. | |
| There's nothing wrong with lowering your options. | |
| You're cutting up a bit on a date. | |
| You're not making an argument by shifting the data. | |
| It's not an argument. | |
| It absolutely is an argument. | |
| No, come on, Destiny. | |
| Come on, Destiny. | |
| You're better than that. | |
| You're a jackass. | |
| The hell, man. | |
| Who are lawyers and crackheads? | |
| Talking fast and loud. | |
| Are you serious right now? | |
| I'm going to hit the chat real quick. | |
| Yo, where are we going 50 and up? | |
| We got 20,000 watching on YouTube right now. | |
| Yeah, 15. | |
| We're going to read statements. | |
| When a woman gets married, it gets a ring, it doesn't mean a thing because her holes are still wide open. | |
| Okay, appreciate that. | |
| Christopher Harris goes, I know you're friends with Sneeko. | |
| Even, I like them. | |
| But he has constantly been digging himself in stupid holes. | |
| Arola was 100% correct. | |
| Sneeko has not read the rational mail. | |
| Talk about arguing. | |
| What was he correct about? | |
| Tell me exactly what he was right about because I don't even know. | |
| Harris, follow up and let us know. | |
| With another $100 donor. | |
| Aside that, since Destiny befriended Sneeko, influenced him enough to have a bad take on this low IQ take, Sneeko needs to stop hanging out with Destiny. | |
| We disagreed this whole show so far. | |
| Guys, you gotta clarify specifically what y'all mean. | |
| Yo, when only Fresh was on your side at the end, you lost, bro. | |
| Even Fresh knows that. | |
| I'm talking about the last show. | |
| Okay. | |
| A fresh man goes, why is it that when women are alone, they act masculine, but when men are alone, they don't act feminine? | |
| Interesting. | |
| Christopher Harris, I'm glad that Rolo got on because it exposed how stupid chat can be. | |
| Okay? | |
| Charlie or Camp 2 Times goes, "Sneeko and Zena sitting in the tree..." *laughs* *laughs* *laughs* Okay, okay. | |
| First one. | |
| Charlotte Katori goes, "Rolo's tweet flew over everyone's head. | |
| His tweet was to spark the question, what's a high-value man to you? | |
| Therefore, he couldn't answer that question in this context since that would defeat the point of the tweet. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Common sense is common with Charlotte. | |
| Okay. | |
| Lepercoon, Destiny, your wife slept over last night and she didn't say anything about you. | |
| You have anything you want to say back to him? | |
| Hey, it's a nice job, dude. | |
| I think just so everyone, because you're in an open relationship with your wife, right? | |
| Like, both of you guys do what you guys want, right? | |
| That's correct, yeah. | |
| It don't matter. | |
| So the panel knows. | |
| To them. | |
| You should bring Dante Nero on the show. | |
| Look him up, yo. | |
| Friends with the late Patrice O'Neal. | |
| Hey, Patrice gave some bad advice. | |
| Josh Miso. | |
| You follow his bad advice. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Nice last show, guys. | |
| Lestini and Deco proved why they're low value to us. | |
| No respect from the jump. | |
| Deco? | |
| Unable to understand. | |
| No experience or wisdom. | |
| What does Deco mean? | |
| Lestini and Deco. | |
| Like, you swept around your guys' things. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Okay. | |
| Always happy to see Myron's wife outside of Fetit. | |
| W Peanut Butter. | |
| Thanks, guys. | |
| Rufix Legacy Production goes first time. | |
| Super chatting. | |
| Watch y'all since 2020. | |
| Always good to not just have a motherfucker run the show. | |
| Myron and Fresh. | |
| Oh, Myron and Fresh. | |
| Okay. | |
| Y'all can bump heads about topics and still respect one another, which is all that matters. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah, we disagree. | |
| We don't need to be douche-nozzles. | |
| What up, Sneeko? | |
| Blue hair, you soft as a baby food. | |
| Go home. | |
| Hey, what's up, man? | |
| Okay, Billy Cho goes, ladies, do you want to have work during and after having children to pay significant bills in a relationship? | |
| If no, why do a majority of women prioritize their careers over finding a high-income man? | |
| Real quick for the ladies. | |
| After you have children, would you guys want to pay a significant amount of the bills? | |
| Raise your hands if it's a yes. | |
| Be honest. | |
| Okay, nobody. | |
| Why not even the lawyer? | |
| Come on, Mamma's career! | |
| It's not that I have a preference, but the basic ideology of it that I think of it as is that I still want to marry a man that is able to still provide the life that I'm accustomed to, and that's able to provide that for my children. | |
| So if I have kids, I would want the option to not work anymore, and I would be with the man that could provide that opportunity to me. | |
| That's essentially what happened with my parents. | |
| My mom worked. | |
| She had kids. | |
| My dad was like, you don't have to work anymore if you don't want to. | |
| She stopped working. | |
| She was a stay-at-home mom. | |
| I've said that before. | |
| Women always want to be able to reserve the right to not work if they don't want to. | |
| At all times. | |
| That's why that's typically what they want in a man. | |
| Blue hair needs to be deported. | |
| Holla. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yves Simonis. | |
| Make no mistake. | |
| This is the official rating and one hour out call rates for tonight's episode. | |
| So ladies, he's going to rate you guys what he thinks and then what he would pay you for sex. | |
| What the... | |
| He gave Angie a $9,000. | |
| Nice, Myron. | |
| Thanks, bro. | |
| Gabby, $4,000. | |
| Zaria, $3,000. | |
| Stephanie, $4,000. | |
| Nina, $600. | |
| Amy, $4,000. | |
| Dom, $4,000. | |
| Zena, $9,000. | |
| Back off. | |
| She got dressed up just for this moment. | |
| And then Akalia, or Akala, $5,000. | |
| Okay, so that's what he rates you guys on what he would pay y'all for sex. | |
| Oh, he put his IG in there. | |
| He's really about it. | |
| That's so weird, bro. | |
| He paid $100 to say that. | |
| Who's first delirium goes, for everyone on the panel, are you aware of doublespeak in the English language? | |
| The word queen is slang for queen, an impudent or ill-behaved girl or woman, a prostitute. | |
| One Neo Lean goes, Sneeko, you were on a bed with your girl. | |
| You stated, cared about you as she was getting smashed. | |
| Most beta moment and fresher foot say nothing. | |
| Although they do say a lot. | |
| Trust me. | |
| How about you, man? | |
| Trust me. | |
| Look at that laugh. | |
| How about you, man? | |
| Dr. | |
| Phil had three vasectomies and a child after each reversal. | |
| No experience in marriage slash kids. | |
| Why are you talking? | |
| You have anything you want to say back to him? | |
| Okay, if you want to get a vasectomy, go ahead. | |
| But I just don't think that's good for the future generation of men. | |
| And we disagree. | |
| I think that's the best way to fight the global agenda is have a bunch of kids. | |
| They don't want you to have kids. | |
| They don't want you to have a family. | |
| They don't want you to be scared about climate change. | |
| You are buying into the big elite psyop by getting a vasectomy. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| All right. | |
| Spy Guacos. | |
| Sneeko is a leaf in the wind. | |
| Remind him, Fred. | |
| Tell me you still are not even clear. | |
| If I'm a leaf in the wind, you can't even answer a specific question. | |
| I did answer it. | |
| You dived that question like a politician. | |
| Answered it correctly. | |
| It's a yes or no. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| You would have gotten Frank Castled if you were a girl. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| I answered a question. | |
| We both did. | |
| You didn't like the answer. | |
| That's what it was. | |
| It's a yes or no question. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| I asked you a yes or no question. | |
| I said yes or no. | |
| And ask John, 50 bucks. | |
| They only bring confusion and instability to the show. | |
| These guys can never focus on one topic at a time. | |
| They're all over the place. | |
| Now, we are pretty set on the topics so far. | |
| Why are men who want women getting relationship advice from a fruity blueberry thought? | |
| Okay, and then Dana goes, Myron and Sneeko, may Allah guide you to the right path. | |
| All love, brothers from Qatar. | |
| Question for the men. | |
| What is their age range to have kids for men? | |
| I mean, 30s, 40s, I would say. | |
| That's the best. | |
| Financially stable. | |
| It's a big range. | |
| Yeah, it depends on the guy, but I would say... | |
| Focus on yourself first. | |
| Y'all already know what I think as far as the five things you need to have in place. | |
| What do you think, Fresh? | |
| That's good. | |
| Because I think at that point, you're more mature. | |
| You can also as well handle or provide for your family. | |
| You want to ask the girls? | |
| Well, biologically, you cannot pass the 35, I think. | |
| No, for men. | |
| Yes, because the sperm just goes... | |
| That's not true. | |
| Robert De Niro just had a hit. | |
| He's 79. | |
| But it increases the risk of deformity or problems with the child. | |
| Is that true? | |
| I could be wrong, but I think the sperm count will decrease, but I don't think that if you inseminate, I don't think it's actually different. | |
| I mean, honestly speaking, I came out fine. | |
| Okay, hold on. | |
| I resale my argument. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| Dana goes, Marnas, Nico. | |
| No, read that one. | |
| Spy guac. | |
| Spy guac. | |
| This is the blue-haired simp. | |
| Stop cutting people off just because you talk louder or cut people off doesn't mean, doesn't make you right. | |
| We told you at the round table, yet you're still doing this. | |
| Don't say that. | |
| Don't say that. | |
| Sorry. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| I'll try to be more of my feminine energy. | |
| Okay. | |
| Scott Aragon, I don't understand how Destiny is on here when he has no merit to try and tell other men how to become better when he takes the D. He's out of shape. | |
| His own wife doesn't even respect him. | |
| No man is trying to better themselves would listen to this. | |
| What do you think? | |
| I'm pretty sure if you polled 99% of women, they would agree with most of what I say. | |
| If you're talking shit like if you go to a college campus or anywhere in the United States and you're like, would you not want to live with your man because he's trying to stay away from you to drive your desire up for him? | |
| 95% of women would be like, fuck that. | |
| And not only would they say that, if they were in those relationships, they would quit after a month or two. | |
| He plays too many games. | |
| What women want and what women need are completely different. | |
| No, they're not. | |
| Probably you're through, but long term, they're not going to respect you. | |
| You're just wrong. | |
| I don't know what to say. | |
| No woman is going to respect a guy that has to leave the house to create space and create a trap. | |
| This is why women shouldn't vote. | |
| This is why women deserve less. | |
| Which means they deserve less of their men living with them. | |
| Right, Mario? | |
| Yeah, broken source. | |
| So, Destiny, I gotta ask you this then. | |
| Because you have an open relationship with your girl, etc. | |
| And you could do what you want and your girl could do what she wants. | |
| Do you think that's like, a lot of guys want that though, realistically? | |
| No, I don't recommend my lifestyle for most people. | |
| Yeah, because I think if anything, guys would want to be open on their end, but they would want their girl closed. | |
| Sure, but that's also something that very few, if any, people can do. | |
| Most women won't go for that. | |
| 99% of women won't go for that. | |
| I respectfully disagree. | |
| I think if the guy's value is high enough, she will absolutely be okay with that. | |
| No, absolutely not. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Most women, if you ask most women, even if you ask a lot of, unless you're talking about being a billionaire or something, most women would not share a high value. | |
| But they want a minute, but by default, when they meet the guy, you know what? | |
| This makes sense. | |
| Nope. | |
| As soon as he starts cheating, she's fucking gone. | |
| One million percent. | |
| She's gonna destroy your shit. | |
| She's gonna find the valuable shit in the living room, she's gonna break it, and then she's gonna fucking leave. | |
| Hold on, ladies. | |
| Let me ask you this. | |
| Let me ask a question, ladies. | |
| Just raise your hands. | |
| Would you be okay with your guy stepping out from time to time and having sex with another girl if he provided for you, he was wealthy and attractive and checked all your boxes? | |
| Raise your hands. | |
| Raise your hands. | |
| How many would be okay with that? | |
| Three? | |
| Okay, the rest of you? | |
| Okay, four? | |
| Can we have a threesome instead? | |
| That's a possibility, yeah. | |
| Hold on. | |
| Threesome is way different. | |
| If you're in a threesome, you're not in a one-sided open relationship. | |
| You have threesomes with your partner. | |
| That's a totally different thing. | |
| It's still having sex with another woman. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| If you're a guy that has threesomes, you're not in a one-sided open relationship. | |
| You have threesomes with your partner. | |
| It's a totally different thing. | |
| Most girls, you've said this yourself, are fake lesbians. | |
| Sure, but they're doing it for their men. | |
| The difference between, like, the amount of women that would be okay with a one-sided over relationship is like 1%. | |
| The amount of women that would be okay with like three sons is probably like 20%. | |
| That's a way different type of thing. | |
| The point is that, you know, then we don't even have to add or vote. | |
| Four girls here at the table, I would argue that 50%, if not more, of women would accept the guy and accept him having other women if he took care of everything else and his value was high enough. | |
| That's my point. | |
| They will accept it if you're high enough. | |
| From an average guy, maybe not. | |
| But if your vibe is high enough, a girl will absolutely accept that. | |
| If you're picking a girl low enough, maybe. | |
| What do you mean by low enough? | |
| As in, if she's like a brokie that you're saving from the fucking slums or some shit, and you're taking her to Beverly Hills or something, maybe, sure. | |
| But if you find another girl in Beverly Hills, she's not going to do it. | |
| I don't think that's what it is, because oftentimes these guys end up cheating, and so they're not having this direct conversation like, hey, I'm going to go and do this, but oftentimes the woman ends up forgiving because they love and respect that man. | |
| And so oftentimes it's not a conversation beforehand, but this is what ends up happening in a lot of relationships. | |
| And he's going to cheat anyway, so... | |
| Cheating is one of the, it's like one of the top three reasons why relationships end though. | |
| Not all men cheats. | |
| Yeah, but not all. | |
| Most do. | |
| I feel like in the US, you have like this hookup culture when all the, like all the girls trying to find excuses for men to cheat. | |
| That's weird. | |
| In Europe, it's different. | |
| They still cheat in Europe. | |
| I'm pretty sure parents have the highest infidelity rate. | |
| But they don't tell you. | |
| No, but they do for sure. | |
| Everybody cheats, right? | |
| But I feel like it's less because in the US, it's acceptable to cheat. | |
| You know what's funny about this whole topic here? | |
| Women will say, okay, I want to share my man. | |
| Then he cheats. | |
| They leave him. | |
| And they go to another man. | |
| He's going to cheat too. | |
| Even in the US, that's not true. | |
| They say it here, but in the US, not all men cheat. | |
| That's an insane proposition. | |
| Yeah, you're right. | |
| Not all men cheat, but the majority do. | |
| Yeah, but not all. | |
| But not all of them. | |
| I don't even think the majority of men cheat. | |
| That's a wild... | |
| First of all, actually, you know what? | |
| I know this isn't true because for a man to cheat, you almost have to be high status to do it. | |
| It's pretty hard for a man to cheat. | |
| That is not true. | |
| That is absolute... | |
| Hold on, hold on. | |
| No, no, that's true, for sure. | |
| Most of us just pay hookers, bro. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That cheat. | |
| Most of us... | |
| Wait, how many do you think it's... | |
| Okay, wait, okay, we'll play this game. | |
| What percentage of men in relation to you think pay hookers to cheat? | |
| If you had to guess it, if you had to ballpark it. | |
| I think most men cheat. | |
| No, no, but I want to hear the prostitute thing. | |
| I think single guys go to prostitute. | |
| No, no, but they're saying in relationships, most men will pay a prostitute. | |
| Even if they're not going to prostitutes, you said it earlier, they'll end up watching porn. | |
| They're going to try to find a way to exercise. | |
| You talk about moving goalposts? | |
| You went from fucking a prostitute to watching porn? | |
| My point is that they always want to go and exercise options. | |
| Men want variety. | |
| That's important. | |
| I don't know how many. | |
| Maybe it's like five, ten percent. | |
| But if they're not paying prostitutes, they're watching porn, they're watching weird anime, they have a weird hard job. | |
| There are significantly more women that are okay with their boyfriend watching porn than seven hundred fucking other people. | |
| But to Snickle's point, if the man couldn't have sex, he would. | |
| But he's watching porn because he can't. | |
| He's settling. | |
| And actually, I think women fight in a different way. | |
| They're scratching that itch for variety. | |
| I think women have an itch for variety too, if you want to put it that way. | |
| I would argue the more a woman loves her man, the less itch she has for variety. | |
| But the less she likes her guy, the more itch she has for variety. | |
| If the guy accomplishes a lot of the things on her checkbox, she doesn't need to go to another guy. | |
| Yeah, but if you're saying it's totally opposite for men with a woman, it's so asymmetric. | |
| Yeah, because men and women are not the same. | |
| I never said they were the same. | |
| They're obviously not the same. | |
| Yeah. | |
| But most women, if they're going to be loyal to a man, would expect the man to be loyal to her. | |
| That's part of the relationship. | |
| But she won't leave her for not being... | |
| She will. | |
| She probably will. | |
| If the guy's value is high enough, no. | |
| No, it's not if the value is high enough, it's if the difference is high enough. | |
| If it's a decently valuable woman from a high social status and circle, and a decently valuable man, if he cheats, she's going to leave. | |
| I mean, you can make the argument Beyonce didn't go anywhere when Jay-Z cheated on her. | |
| She's high status. | |
| Yeah, but didn't Beyonce cheat on Jay-Z too? | |
| No. | |
| Don't these guys, like, fuck around like crazy? | |
| I'm pretty sure with celebrities, I think they're all... | |
| Even Bezos was in, like, an open relationship. | |
| It's even worse. | |
| When a woman has more status, it actually hurts her ability to find another partner. | |
| She can't go nowhere. | |
| She becomes a prisoner of success. | |
| Men become free from success. | |
| Women become prisoners of their success. | |
| I don't think that's true at all. | |
| What? | |
| Dude, the more money a woman makes and the more status she acquires, the less candidates she has in her pool. | |
| Yeah, but that's because she usually wants less candidates. | |
| This is something you guys have really had time understanding. | |
| Women, you guys are taking this from the perspective that men just need a woman to be in a relationship with. | |
| And so you assume that women should be the same way, but that's not true. | |
| Women are looking for a man that adds value to their life. | |
| And you're trying to say the value proposition is because you can't think of a single way to move in a relationship where women like you. | |
| So it's got to be this huge value proposition of dollars. | |
| But there has to be another way for men to appeal to women than just making more money. | |
| No, we mentioned there's a bunch. | |
| Having charisma, having game, having frame. | |
| But not for more than four days a week. | |
| Because that's how you maintain attraction. | |
| Okay, I disagree. | |
| Bro, to get a woman to be loyal to you and love you and be submissive to you, you must maintain attraction. | |
| To maintain attraction, being available is a critical component of that. | |
| I disagree, but we're just gonna go back and forth. | |
| I feel like for a man to make a lot of money, oftentimes he needs to work on his character, right? | |
| He needs to work on his discipline. | |
| He needs to work on his leadership. | |
| These are skills that are very attractive to women that are naturally a byproduct of making a lot of money, oftentimes. | |
| That's true, but men that have those skills and not the money can also fuck through a lot of women. | |
| There are a lot of guys that are really charismatic, super fuckboy, but they're not even that successful. | |
| They can absolutely fuck through a ton of women. | |
| Some people can fake it, for sure. | |
| They can smash, but can they retain long-term? | |
| Probably not. | |
| Well, yeah, but isn't that what you guys are all about anyway? | |
| Just smashing and not... | |
| Who said that? | |
| Just smashing through a ton of women and not having to deal with relationships? | |
| If you want to, you can, but you don't have to. | |
| But I'm saying that guy doesn't even necessarily have to be high value. | |
| It just has to be a good game. | |
| Ultimately, it's the choice you make when you become successful with what you want to do. | |
| Some more chats here? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's see here. | |
| Destiny is a cuck. | |
| He goes, Destiny is literally a crypto-Jesuit with brainlit-tier arguments and got dominated by Ryan Dawson so hard, he literally cries every time he's mentioned. | |
| I hope LAV wins the league. | |
| You're into D4. Who's LAV? Who's that? | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| Long story. | |
| Okay. | |
| My girl's having trouble sleeping when I'm not in the same bed with her. | |
| What does it mean, though? | |
| Am I in trouble? | |
| That's a good sign, my friend. | |
| That's great. | |
| She's attracted. | |
| She's in love with you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Finally caught a live stream. | |
| Chris is a bum. | |
| FNF. Keep doing the thing. | |
| City boys, we up. | |
| I want to open it up to the ladies. | |
| Did y'all have a question for any of us or a topic that y'all wanted to discuss? | |
| Zina? | |
| You got something? | |
| I saw you. | |
| No? | |
| Not yet. | |
| Y'all were being argumentative earlier. | |
| We'll come back. | |
| My only question is that y'all asked us our education level, so I'm curious what y'all's is. | |
| Okay. | |
| Sure. | |
| That was a good question. | |
| Two years of college dropped out. | |
| Three years of college, so. | |
| But... | |
| Bachelor's degree, criminal justice, Northeastern University. | |
| Computer studies associate. | |
| That's cool. | |
| What's the longest relationship y'all ever been in? | |
| Next. | |
| Wait, who asked that? | |
| Oh, you asked that? | |
| Yeah, I did. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Myrin's a man of God, of course. | |
| Yeah, I mean, I got you. | |
| I mean, my thing is, well, you're asking me specifically or all of us? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| All right, we can start with Destiny and then work our way. | |
| Her wife is about four and a half years. | |
| Okay. | |
| I would say two and a half years on an awful lot. | |
| Okay. | |
| One year? | |
| Me, yeah. | |
| One year and then. | |
| I mean, right now I got some mains. | |
| I'm not monogamous. | |
| I think monogamy is stupid, but my girls are all monogamous, but I'm not. | |
| Interesting. | |
| You're a Muslim? | |
| How do you know they're being monogamous? | |
| Oh, you just know. | |
| Oh, you sure? | |
| It's pretty obvious. | |
| Girls lie better. | |
| That's true. | |
| That's true. | |
| They are better at being deceptive, but there's certain things that make it pretty obvious. | |
| If she's using a toy that's like a dildo, how do you know it's a dildo that's being in her and not a real man? | |
| What the fuck? | |
| What? | |
| Why would she be using a dildo? | |
| What? | |
| Maybe sometimes he's not home and he's with his boys. | |
| Yeah, you should use a vibrator. | |
| Why are you single? | |
| Wait, do you think using a dildo is like cheating or what's wrong with using a dildo? | |
| That's what she said. | |
| It's not cheating though. | |
| It's not cheating. | |
| Because that's just physical, but if you were with another man, there's some emotional attachment. | |
| Is that what you do? | |
| Is that what you do? | |
| And that's why they said specifically the woman should be crazy about the guy. | |
| I hear a lot of things. | |
| I'm a bro girl. | |
| A girl that's getting it from somebody else, her attention and her focus isn't going to be solely on that guy, and that's ways to tell, too. | |
| She's not going to be as bothered if he's like, oh, I'm going to spend time with you, not spending time with you. | |
| You're going to be stressed because you're focused solely on that guy, versus if he's saying that and then he's not delivering, you're just going to be like, whatever, I'll get it from this guy. | |
| Yeah, but you're not even going to know if she feels that way because you're not around her half the time anyway. | |
| No, she's going to be hitting you all up. | |
| Is that, like, do you really want that relationship where a girl's hitting you up all the time because she's so desperate for your attention? | |
| Not all the time. | |
| Like, that's where Frame comes in. | |
| Like I said before, she knows her. | |
| But if sex is emotional... | |
| So she's hitting you up like half the time or what, like, is... | |
| No, then why wouldn't we want a man that can emotionally please us? | |
| You should get at least one text a day of your girl checking in with you. | |
| Like, I'm thinking about you. | |
| I miss you. | |
| It's very easy to tell when a woman is loyal, to answer your point. | |
| But it's very easy to tell when a girl is being loyal versus not. | |
| She's very transparent. | |
| You can see things. | |
| You're like number one on her priority list. | |
| It's very easy to tell. | |
| Where we at here? | |
| Okay, Lalo goes, Destiny making all these points, but none of the girls on the panel will be in relation with him. | |
| W Myron. | |
| Lalo. | |
| That was my question. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| What was your question? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| This guy says, Sneak was a weak servitive. | |
| Servitive. | |
| Has been with no identity and has zero substance to his personality. | |
| I bet it eats away at him. | |
| Bro, you're in too deep, man. | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Zero substance to your personality. | |
| LOL, you guys should have a call-in show for guys in sexless marriages. | |
| Actually, that would be pretty good, actually. | |
| That's a good idea. | |
| IRS, the substance is strong with this panel. | |
| Destiny is out of touch when it comes to modern dating. | |
| No one should be taking dating advice from this blue-haired male in an open relationship. | |
| Don't be a douche nozzle like the video would be audited. | |
| So here's the thing. | |
| I see that you have your relationship and you're happy with it, etc. | |
| But I would argue most guys don't want their girl to be open with other men. | |
| I've never advocated for my style. | |
| But I talk to a lot of women. | |
| I hook up with a lot of women. | |
| I feel like I have a general idea of what's going on in relationships. | |
| But here's the thing though. | |
| The arguments you've made a lot of the time, like, oh no, you should be with your girl, blah, blah, blah, all these things. | |
| Like, these are things that you exercise in your relationship, right? | |
| Which is fine, because you're okay with the outcome of your relationship. | |
| But what I'm saying is that what most guys want is an outcome of your relationship where their girl is open. | |
| That's why I disagree with a lot of your points. | |
| Yeah, but my perspective isn't coming from, this is what you should do to have an open relationship. | |
| My perspective is that in a healthy relationship, two people can live together, love each other, and also give each other space in the same house. | |
| But I would argue that it's not healthy to allow your woman to hook up with other guys. | |
| And most guys would not want that. | |
| Yeah, and I probably agree for most of the time, yeah. | |
| But also, my relationship style is more realistic than yours. | |
| You think so? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Where both people have the respect for each other to both be open rather than the one-sided open relationship, that is massive. | |
| I think if your woman is hooking up with other guys, she inherently does not respect you. | |
| That's great, but most 99% of women would say that if you're talking about other women, you don't respect them. | |
| No, I definitely do because respect is not the same between the genders. | |
| In that sense, it absolutely is. | |
| I disagree. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I mean, we can poll women, but I'm very confident that more women would be okay being in a double-sided open relationship than a single-sided. | |
| How come you don't advocate towards open relationships? | |
| You say that your relationship method is not for most people. | |
| What did I just say earlier? | |
| You said that most people can't do that. | |
| So then why would I advocate for it if I don't think most people could do it? | |
| Yeah. | |
| But that's your point as well, Destiny. | |
| You let her take charge, though. | |
| No, I don't let her take charge. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| No, you did because you said earlier her thing was open relationships. | |
| You didn't really want that. | |
| You just cheated. | |
| So you say, you know what? | |
| I'm going to acquiesce to her. | |
| This is the most autistic frame you've ever started. | |
| When we started dating, she said she did open relationships. | |
| I said, that sounds great. | |
| So we started dating as an open relationship. | |
| What? | |
| She brought up, not you. | |
| Did you have one before that? | |
| So before I was in relationships, I have a hard time staying faithful because I like to fuck around a lot. | |
| So I found somebody that does open relationships. | |
| I was like, oh, cool, we'll do that. | |
| But I guess in Fresh's world, since she did it first, I'm like stepping into her frame. | |
| But the reality is if she wanted monogamous relationships, I wouldn't have dated her. | |
| I don't think I could have handled that. | |
| I would have just found somebody that does over relationships. | |
| Or I would have just been a fuckboy. | |
| So you would not be okay with, like, let's say she decided, like, let's say you guys got together and she said, okay, I'm going to be monogamous to you and you can go ahead and have other women. | |
| You wouldn't have been okay with that? | |
| Personally? | |
| Me? | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Why not? | |
| Why? | |
| Because I don't think there's respect in that level of asymmetry in a relationship. | |
| And I think it would be, I know that there would be conflict if I'm, like, telling my wife, like, she's like, oh, do you want to do something for an end? | |
| I was like, oh, no, no, no, sorry, like, you can hang out at home, but I'm gonna go fuck somebody else. | |
| That's a disaster waiting to happen. | |
| Well, you wouldn't say that. | |
| But I don't want to be an issue where I have to lie to my partner constantly. | |
| You just do what you want to do. | |
| You don't have to go explain everything you do. | |
| No, no, if, bro. | |
| This is like a seven-year-old concept of lying. | |
| If you know that you're avoiding certain topics because you know it's gonna upset her, you're essentially lying. | |
| There's a mutual understanding, but some things don't need to be spelled out black and white like that. | |
| Okay, that's fine. | |
| I wouldn't want to be in a relationship where there's a mutual understanding where I can step in on my girl and she couldn't do the same for me. | |
| So what's your guys' dynamic? | |
| Like, do you guys both need to be seeing someone, like, at the same time? | |
| I think generally that's what we prefer. | |
| That's generally what we prefer, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that nobody, like, feels like, I guess, left out or whatever, yeah. | |
| See, but the only reason I disagree with that, I mean, hey, it's your relationship, but I'm saying for other guys is that that implies that you and her are equal. | |
| I mean, that's how I view relationships. | |
| To some extent, I am equal with my partner. | |
| You also admit that men and women are not equal. | |
| No, no. | |
| Hold on. | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| You said that men and women are different. | |
| I said men and women are not the same. | |
| Same, yeah. | |
| But that doesn't mean they can't be equal partnership with a relationship, in my view. | |
| I understand you guys view it differently. | |
| So you don't agree that a man should lead and a woman should follow? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I wouldn't want to be with a woman that had to lead around. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't. | |
| But I understand that you guys don't feel that way. | |
| Yeah, I don't agree with your perspective, but I understand it. | |
| I agree with your perspective, and I think a lot of women agree with that. | |
| Yeah, I think so now. | |
| I think it's increasingly becoming more and more like that. | |
| If you had a man that you love and I respect, do you want to go fuck other guys? | |
| If I have a man that I love and respect, would I fuck other guys? | |
| No, but... | |
| Can I tell you something? | |
| Can I tell you something? | |
| I can fantasize about fucking other men, but since I'm in a real... | |
| Yeah, I mean, you can fantasize... | |
| What the fuck? | |
| Wait, wait, wait. | |
| Wait, wait. | |
| I had an eight-year relationship. | |
| I'm talking about a long relationship. | |
| You're going to fantasize because it's like getting mad at my man because he's looking at another girl. | |
| It's normal because we fantasize about other people. | |
| That doesn't mean that I'm going to fuck someone else. | |
| I can think about it. | |
| I can fantasize about it. | |
| That does not mean I'm going to do it, especially if we're not in an open relationship, because that's what love is. | |
| You have to compromise. | |
| You have to not be selfish. | |
| You have to... | |
| So you were fantasizing about being with other men? | |
| No, but I can fantasize about having sex sometimes, yeah, for sure. | |
| Why do you think women watch Fifty Shades of Grey? | |
| For sure, for sure. | |
| I watch porn. | |
| I do. | |
| And my man knows. | |
| I mean, he knows that I'm watching porn. | |
| But you do understand that his point of view is if you're with him, you got to fuck other dudes. | |
| I'm sorry, what? | |
| His point of view is, if you're with him, you're going to fuck other dudes. | |
| All I'm saying is that, I think if most women had to choose, first of all, I don't think most would choose an open relationship at all. | |
| I think that's an incredibly rare thing. | |
| But I'm saying if they had to choose, I think women would tend towards dual open relationships than the single-sided ones. | |
| I think the single-sided one would be a fucking nightmare. | |
| No, I think, again, if the guy is that dude, they want the single-sided one. | |
| If the difference is great enough, maybe. | |
| Because if a girl truly loves, admires, respects her man, all other men are invisible to her. | |
| Men and women are not the same. | |
| That's not true. | |
| That's delusional. | |
| That is delusional. | |
| We all have eyes. | |
| I mean, what? | |
| That's weird. | |
| Okay, having eyes and looking at another man versus going out and fucking another man are two different things. | |
| No, I'm not talking about fucking fantasizing. | |
| So, no. | |
| Everybody's fantasizing. | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| Everybody's always... | |
| Let me ask you a question. | |
| If you were with a man that you love and mind respect, would you want to go have sex with another man? | |
| Would I want to? | |
| Maybe? | |
| Would I do it? | |
| No, I wouldn't. | |
| I never cheated. | |
| There you go. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| If I'm with a woman that I love and I respect, I still want to fuck other girls. | |
| That's the difference. | |
| She's saying she wanted a guy who couldn't actually do it. | |
| For sure. | |
| I mean, if I'm with you and you're fucking another girl, I'm going to fuck another guy because that's respect. | |
| Whoa. | |
| Whoa. | |
| That's true. | |
| I will for sure. | |
| Because wait, wait, wait. | |
| So you're going to fantasize about another girl and fuck another girl and I'm going to fantasize about another guy and like restrain myself? | |
| No, if you cannot respect me, I'm going to- Also, also, wait, hold on. | |
| All the girls here, I don't remember if it was you two or what, that's talking about like, I wouldn't be able to buy a guy because of diseases or whatever. | |
| Who are talking about you want your guy going out fucking random girl all the time? | |
| What happened to the STD? You don't get HIV from a girl. | |
| That's a different thing. | |
| We do know. | |
| HIV is a gay SCD, I'm just saying. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| What the heck? | |
| Heterosexual SCDs are different than homosexual SCDs. | |
| If you live in the Western world, how many people at all have HIV? Even the gays got over HIV. I don't know, man. | |
| That's some butter-caught SCDs. | |
| Maybe you have gonorrhea, syphilis, all this other shit. | |
| That's not a little fucking pill. | |
| HIV, you're worth it forever. | |
| I don't know, man. | |
| You get monkey pox, you got HIV. I don't care. | |
| Herpes versus monkeypox, I'm taking herpes any day. | |
| But these men don't be wrapping it up. | |
| These girls can get pregnant and they can get STDs too. | |
| I think the main thing is that men naturally want to have sex with other women. | |
| Women don't naturally want to have sex with other men. | |
| They want the best man. | |
| They want the best man. | |
| A lot of women... | |
| Can I finish this? | |
| A lot of women can be attracted to other guys and a lot of women will be only attracted to their men. | |
| It depends. | |
| But women still want to consolidate on the best man. | |
| - What? | |
| - Man, okay. | |
| - Okay. | |
| - You have to explain that. | |
| - Feeny, Feeny. | |
| - You have to explain that. | |
| - I will argue that most women will be okay with like having a man that will just fuck with whoever he wants, as long as he doesn't commit to another person like emotionally. | |
| That is absolutely not true. | |
| There's girls at the table that are okay with that. | |
| Yeah, the red-pilled girls, but most women are not going to be okay with their men. | |
| There are studies because women are emotional, men are not. | |
| Men are absolutely emotional. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Men are way more emotional. | |
| They literally kill themselves when they bump into each other in the street. | |
| How is that not emotional? | |
| The only reason why you can say women are more emotional than them is because for some reason you don't count anger as an emotion. | |
| Men are absolutely emotional creatures. | |
| Of course they are. | |
| Listen, I studied psychology. | |
| I saw this in the university. | |
| There is actually a whole study that will say women will get mad if a man commits emotionally to another woman because if they fuck another woman, they will ask like, oh, but did you buy her flowers? | |
| Or did you take it to the movies? | |
| There is no psych research that says this. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| You're telling me that if you found out your guy cheated, the first thing the woman is saying is like, did you buy her flowers? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| That's what she will think. | |
| She's going to be mad that you fucked another woman. | |
| No, not at all. | |
| Here's the thing, what she's saying basically is if a woman finds out that her man is cheating, she's going to ask him, do you love her? | |
| Yeah, you love her. | |
| She's more concerned with the emotional connection if that woman could replace her. | |
| But if a man finds out his girl cheated on him, he's going to be more concerned with the physicality. | |
| That's why for a guy, if he sees his girl cheating or if he knows her body count or anything like that and it's not to his acceptable parameters, he's going to be turned off by that. | |
| Women can get mindfucked seeing pictures of an ex. | |
| She's like larger boobs than the woman. | |
| How are you telling me that a woman is not going to get... | |
| If a woman sees you dated like two girls in a row that had big old fucking double D's and she's like an A cup, that type of shit is going to fuck with your man. | |
| How are you going to tell me that a girl seeing you go and fuck another girl that's younger, that's Asian, that has a bigger booty, bigger boobs, isn't going to start to get that shit in her head too? | |
| She's going to ask, do you love her? | |
| It doesn't matter if you love her. | |
| She's gonna think, oh, he wants that. | |
| He doesn't want me. | |
| He wants that girl that's younger. | |
| He wants that girl that's Asian. | |
| He wants that girl that has that type of thing going on. | |
| That's what she's gonna be thinking constantly. | |
| The point here is that women prioritize emotional connection and relationships. | |
| They might, sure. | |
| I probably agree with that, but that doesn't mean they're okay with you fucking other girls in general. | |
| That's some hyper niche shit. | |
| Not many women are gonna be okay with that. | |
| Not right now, but you have to learn that frame. | |
| No, they don't. | |
| They won't. | |
| It's not something that they're growing up with. | |
| No, what happens is that they're not going to learn that frame and then you're going to be in this world where 45% of women are like, oh, I don't need no man. | |
| And you're going to be on your podcast and be like, oh, it's so bullshit that women want to accept these blah, blah, blah. | |
| We're advocating for relationships that they never want to be in. | |
| No, you're not going to complain about it. | |
| You need to up your frame. | |
| You need to up your game. | |
| You need to make sure that you're better so that women do submit to that. | |
| And we did say that most women would accept that from the right guy is the argument. | |
| If it's the right guy, they'll break rules for him. | |
| You want to be the guy that girls break rules for. | |
| If it's the right guy and she's low enough, yes. | |
| It's not low enough. | |
| It is low enough. | |
| It is. | |
| Because any woman with enough self-respect or enough status... | |
| From what perspective low enough? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| In terms of class, in terms of education, in terms of income, depending on where she's at. | |
| There's enough disparity between him and her, basically. | |
| And what avenues? | |
| If you're finding a woman and the only thing she has to offer the world are looks and age, then yeah, you could probably juggle a lot of them. | |
| But if they have anything else to offer the world, they're probably going to find a guy that's a little bit different than that. | |
| That's not doing the one-ended open relationship thing. | |
| So you're saying like education and other things? | |
| Sure, it could be education, family, background, class. | |
| It could be where they live. | |
| It could be a bunch of other shit going on, depending on, yeah. | |
| Remember, his frame is going in that it's an equal partnership. | |
| He's thinking about what a woman offers to the world based on what a man usually offers to the world. | |
| True, but remember, a lot of women now are going in as equal partnerships because they have the pill and they have access to school. | |
| Right, and so our diagnosis of this is like, don't submit to that feminist idea. | |
| But women are not aroused by men that are equal to them. | |
| Depending on how you treat them, of course there. | |
| You can still be masculine while treating your partner as an equal. | |
| No! | |
| Hell no! | |
| Absolutely you can. | |
| Because masculinity is inherently dominant, so that means that you are not equal. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| Most men are followers. | |
| Most men aren't managers. | |
| Most men aren't leaders. | |
| Yeah, most men are followers. | |
| The vast majority of men are followers. | |
| They go to work, they take orders from a boss. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| We're talking about in a relationship, not you and the working I'm talking about women are attracted to masculine traits, which inherently means that you are not equal because you are dominant. | |
| You're telling her what to do. | |
| You're the leader in the relationship and she's the subordinate. | |
| How is that equal? | |
| You can say that, but I think most women today, I don't know about a hundred years ago, but today would rather have a man that listens to them, takes their feedback into account and then makes decisions as a team rather than maybe like, oh, we're going to go fucking do this. | |
| Yeah, but you can still have that and then ultimately defer to the guy and know that you trust his judgment to be the leader. | |
| A woman wants to be able to have her opinion heard, but she wants you to be the final decision maker. | |
| So I respectfully disagree with you on that, Destiny. | |
| A girl wants to hear her opinion, but at the end of the day, she wants a man that can tell her, shut up, that's stupid, we're gonna do this instead. | |
| A girl wants to be able to be put in her place by her man at any time. | |
| And I think that if you're talking with a woman that is like an educated woman past a certain point, she's not ever gonna want to be put in her place. | |
| That's gonna be like, I'm out of here. | |
| These feminists that you're talking about, these educated women, they want it the most! | |
| Because they're surrounded by a bunch of liberal guys that are like, oh, your opinion matters! | |
| Oh no, we're equal! | |
| I'm a feminist too! | |
| No, they love guys that are like, shut up! | |
| Most of them are like, oh, I'm single and I don't give a fuck because I don't need a guy because none of them give me any value. | |
| That's what's happening more and more, right? | |
| Feminists and these liberal women that you talk about yearn for masculinity the strongest. | |
| The strongest type of masculinity is usually a man that could be somewhat of a partner with a woman but still kind of lead. | |
| Who are you talking about? | |
| There's a difference between having the final say in something, but also still being receptive and able to treat your partner as an equal and have feedback and everything and make decisions. | |
| Could I not be saying that? | |
| That's not what they're saying. | |
| They want something that is submissive and is deferring all drivers from the men. | |
| I don't think that they're going to be like, shut up, bitch. | |
| I don't want to hear anything you have to say. | |
| That is exactly what they're saying. | |
| They're still going to listen to their partners, but ultimately they need to have trust that the man is the one who is the leader of the relationship and can ultimately make those calls. | |
| It's okay. | |
| It's not going to dismiss their opinion entirely. | |
| I think what's going to happen is in a good partnership, you defer to the person with the most experience on the decision that you're making. | |
| So if you need to move somewhere for somebody's job or for somebody's whatever, depending on whose job it is or whatever, that would be the person making the decision. | |
| Guys are way more practical. | |
| So oftentimes when it comes to practicalities of a relationship- - How are guys more practical when half of men today are like 35 years old living with their parents wanting to be pro on YouTube? - When it comes to finances, when it comes to skillsets, specialized skillsets- - I don't even think that's true when it comes to finances. | |
| I think men actually juggle more debt and are more financially responsible than women are. | |
| Men are absolutely not responsible. | |
| Bro, how many poor people walk around with fucking Nikes and iPhones? | |
| Look up, look up credit cards. | |
| I actually have no idea. | |
| Because they run the household. | |
| Because they run the household. | |
| That's different. | |
| That's not them racking up expenses for themselves. | |
| Women have way more debt than men. | |
| Way more. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's a fact. | |
| Women have way more debt than men do. | |
| And marketing is tied to women because they're more emotional. | |
| They're 80% of the consumer-based destiny. | |
| That's a fact, though. | |
| Why did you say more emotional? | |
| No, they made emotional choices. | |
| Dude, men buy shit because their favorite rappers and fucking movie stars wear it. | |
| How is that not emotional? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Everybody's emotional. | |
| He means women are more likely to be impulse buyers. | |
| That's what he means. | |
| So therefore, marketers and advertisers target women because they're more likely to be impulse purchasers, which is buying off of them. | |
| I don't even know if that's true. | |
| If a guy steps into a car dealership and he runs into a more slick enough car dealership, he might drive out with a fucking jenny line. | |
| Okay, in vehicles, no. | |
| But in general, women are 80% of the consumer base and control three quarters of that, bro. | |
| That's a fact. | |
| You keep saying that, but that's because they control the household spending. | |
| So of course they do, right? | |
| That still doesn't refute my argument. | |
| Yeah, but that's not that being irresponsible of their money being crazy. | |
| That doesn't buy you the household. | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| I'm not arguing bad faith, bro. | |
| I'm not arguing bad faith, bro. | |
| You're arguing a bad faith, man. | |
| It's all good. | |
| You're not arguing a bunch of shit. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Guys, get those legs up! | |
| How many views we got? | |
| Where the fucking thumbs up in the air? | |
| We need more legs, bro. | |
| Do you think your wife could beat you in a fight? | |
| No. | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| I would beat the shit out of her. | |
| Wait, are we still on YouTube? | |
| Sorry. | |
| She disagreed on my stream, I'm just saying. | |
| Allegedly, Destiny. | |
| Allegedly. | |
| She looks pretty tough. | |
| She is tough. | |
| She's a strong woman. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| We have some more chats here. | |
| What is that? | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Elijah Kawagi says, "How can a man fulfill the protector role living away from his family half the time? | |
| If you get stopped from a woman, it is your own fault for falling out of frame and a giant cult to blame women. | |
| Y'all know better than that, self-accountability." Yes, but it's more likely for that to happen. | |
| It's more likely that you fall out of frame if you're living with your woman all the time. | |
| So just better play your cards right and avoid that situation because it happens so often. | |
| How do you protect her, though, if you are away for random spurts of time? | |
| You set up the house properly, you can get security, you can make sure you have a good house. | |
| If you are the right provider, then you're not going to need to be there all the time watching with a gun. | |
| If you live in a good neighborhood, if you live in a gated community, if the house is protected, you should be fine. | |
| S night. | |
| Calculate the amount of time that most men spend commuting, work, eat, gym, sleep, compared to the time they freely spend at home with their relationships. | |
| It's barely any. | |
| You basically only have the weekends to spend the time that you guys are talking about with your relationship. | |
| Oh god. | |
| My balls say, I mean... | |
| Yes, sir! | |
| Amina, I want you first suckers, then back to the crib for bedroom photos. | |
| Fresh introduced her to your lean, mean, deep, dry, drilling, 304 machine. | |
| Fresh is so proud he put his name on it. | |
| Make the move big. | |
| He's an island boy! | |
| Yes, sir! | |
| Let's move forward. | |
| Get him, Fresh, get him! | |
| Wait, wait, wait. | |
| Who's Amina? | |
| She's cool, yeah. | |
| Any comments? | |
| Chill out, bro. | |
| I honestly don't really get it. | |
| Back to the crib. | |
| Don't worry about it. | |
| EJ Moe. | |
| Okay, move forward. | |
| The Bible does describe polygamy, but it does not prescribe polygamy. | |
| But does that prescribe it? | |
| Okay, let that sink in. | |
| Encourage. | |
| Uh, XXX is like fire. | |
| In the fireplace it will warm you, but elsewhere it will burn your house down. | |
| Doesn't the Bible explicitly say no polygamy? | |
| Yeah, it's against it. | |
| Like, I think King Solomon didn't, like, God say, I'm fucking splitting your kingdom in half and you're gonna get fucked by the invaders or whatever for being... | |
| Well, that story was about him falling from grace because he took in too many women and he followed their religion. | |
| The actual act itself wasn't frowned upon. | |
| It's just that he took people from a different, I want to say, area, and their God was not the God of his people. | |
| Am I wrong? | |
| Isn't one of the commandments... | |
| Honor your wife. | |
| Yeah, it's not wives, right? | |
| Don't commit adultery. | |
| The Quran has this laid out. | |
| When it comes to making decisions about loans or making major financial decisions, it says that you should have a contract signed and then two men should be present. | |
| But if two men are not able to be present, you have one man and then two women. | |
| So basically when it comes to decision making the Quran, there's two women, their decision is equal to one man because just in case the women messes up, basically they're countering their One woman's logic is going to back it up. | |
| Yeah, women are inconsistent, they get emotional, and so they're taking account for that. | |
| If one of the women fails, then the other woman is there to check it. | |
| So two women's opinion is equal to one man's opinion in the Quran. | |
| There you go. | |
| That's hilarious, but why do you bring that up? | |
| How did that relate to what was just... | |
| I don't know. | |
| Because he's talking about an equal relationship, and now I'm thinking about it. | |
| The fact that you think that a woman's opinion is equal to a man's opinion, based on the Quran, that's Haram. | |
| Oh shit, I didn't even think of that. | |
| Why was he thinking about what fucking Muslims think about women? | |
| Based on the Quran, women are not... | |
| I will say this is my first take. | |
| I genuinely think that one man's vote should equal two women's vote when it comes to electing the president. | |
| And before you guys get mad at me for saying that, the reason why I say that is because men have to sign up for selective service. | |
| So if men have the responsibility of having to potentially be drafted for war and defend their country and die, their vote should have more weight than a woman's because women don't have the same risks. | |
| I agree. | |
| Thinking like that, I will close every way. | |
| Yeah, that's why I genuinely think that one woman's vote should... | |
| Sorry, two women's vote counts as one guy's vote. | |
| And also, I mean, here's the other thing, too. | |
| This might be a little bit more crazy. | |
| But women tend to be more communitarian. | |
| They tend to be more, you know, towards socialism and, you know, okay, you get a dollar, you get a dollar, you get a dollar. | |
| Men tend to be more merit-based. | |
| And I think for society to work, you got to... | |
| Capitalism is the way. | |
| So that's another reason why I think a man's vote should be valued more than a woman's vote. | |
| But that's just my take. | |
| Alright, we got Tim. | |
| Anybody else? | |
| Anybody disagree with that? | |
| Repeal the 19th. | |
| I don't know if we want to get a whole fucking argument. | |
| What I'm saying, I think a man's vote should count more. | |
| You got something, Ms. | |
| Blair? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| I was just going to say I strongly disagree, but I also don't feel like debating this. | |
| I mean, go ahead, debate it. | |
| Why do you disagree? | |
| The disagreement is selective services. | |
| First of all, that's one very minor part. | |
| Minor? | |
| Yeah. | |
| When was the last draft? | |
| Exactly. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| We might have World War III now, dude. | |
| No, we're not going to have World War III now. | |
| Do you not see what's going on right now? | |
| I'll give you 5 to 1 odds. | |
| Bro, hey man. | |
| Don't do it. | |
| So, last draft was like decades ago, okay? | |
| So, I don't think that the fact that we have to sign up for selective service, which is, what is it, from like 19 to 25 or something, or 18 to 25? | |
| As soon as you turn 18, you gotta... | |
| Till when? | |
| Like, it's like 20... | |
| No, as soon as you turn 18 as a man, you must... | |
| Yeah, but I think you can only be drafted up to a certain age. | |
| It's pretty young, isn't it? | |
| Like, you're not drafting people in their 40s. | |
| Is it? | |
| I think you can be drafted. | |
| It depends on the needs of the military at that time. | |
| If we're at the point where we're drafting people in their 40s... | |
| Yeah, I mean, but... | |
| But the point is that men... | |
| No, I understand that the selective service is another thing, but also it's unfair that women have to have kids. | |
| But that's a choice. | |
| You don't choose if you get a point in the selective service. | |
| Men can't even make that choice, right? | |
| I'm just saying, well, as in men are never going to get pregnant and have kids, right? | |
| I'm just saying, life's not fair. | |
| That's what you guys like to say all the time, right? | |
| Just because life's not fair doesn't mean that somebody should theoretically have a different vote, right? | |
| If you've never actually been drafted, why should the fact that you stand up for selective service means that you have more of a say in running society than the other half of the people that live here and are affected by it? | |
| No, the reason why is because you take on more risk as a man. | |
| You could be drafted. | |
| But that risk is... | |
| You probably take on more risk if I can cross the street than signing up for selective service. | |
| Dude, if you don't enroll in selective service, you don't get certain opportunities. | |
| No, but I'm saying that the risk of signing up for selective service is probably less than the risk of literally anything else you do. | |
| Regardless, you still have to take that risk. | |
| Women don't. | |
| That's fine. | |
| Regardless, you don't take the risk. | |
| But I'm saying the risk... | |
| The difference is like, here. | |
| I don't know if that's like, my vote is out twice as much because of this. | |
| I think it's twice as much because of that. | |
| Because that's a big risk. | |
| Because you are obligated to defend your country and be a civil servant and women are not. | |
| That's a big difference. | |
| Okay, but in the era of, like, women's rights being repealed right now, and, like, you no longer have... | |
| I'm pro-choice, personally, but you no longer have the right to choose in a lot of states in this country, so... | |
| About half, yeah. | |
| So... | |
| Childbirth, yes, is a choice, but then also contraception is hard. | |
| It's getting harder for women to access contraception. | |
| It's getting harder for women to have a choice and a recourse if they do accidentally get pregnant. | |
| Are we aware of the stats for childbirth in women? | |
| Mostly, a lot of Black women statistically die more giving birth. | |
| So it's still a risk you're assuming just because I was born a woman. | |
| They actually abort the most kids as well, statistically. | |
| They abort the most kids, and also they're significantly fatter. | |
| So, like, they- This statistic is showing up to be like- That's a fact! | |
| They talk about 5'3", 185 pounds! | |
| But are you aware of the stats of, like, racism in the medical industry? | |
| Yeah, see, this is the argument, like, that the nurses are racist because black women are dying- Wait, nurse? | |
| Red flag. | |
| Look, black women are extremely unhealthy compared to the other races in America. | |
| So this is like a weird thing. | |
| You think the nurses are trying to kill them? | |
| And there's a lot of systemic issues that surround that, though. | |
| You think the doctors are plotting? | |
| You think the doctors are KKK? I didn't say that. | |
| Wait, hold on. | |
| Firstly, there are some doctors that literally will prescribe different types of medication if you're black or white. | |
| Yeah, that's true. | |
| And there are doctors that will take women less seriously when it comes to pain. | |
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | |
| But also... | |
| To be clear, too, the thing you point about black women being fat more often, that is true, but a lot of that is not just because black women choose to be fucking fat. | |
| But it also has to do with your generational wealth. | |
| It has to do with where your family came from. | |
| It has to do with where you were born. | |
| It had to do with all these things that in the past were controlled by things that were literally related to your race and the government. | |
| No, man, if you're fat, you're fat. | |
| You ate too many calories. | |
| It has nothing to do with the government and all that other stuff. | |
| Hold on, hold on, hold on. | |
| Do you think a five-year-old chooses to be fat? | |
| Here's the thing, when you become an adult, you do have a choice to be fat or not. | |
| When you become fat as a five-year-old, you're fat forever. | |
| Undoing that shit? | |
| Undoing that shit is almost impossible. | |
| No, it's not. | |
| It's like, I think 2%. | |
| That's great. | |
| And guess how much easier life is when you don't ever have to worry about that, right? | |
| There are people that when you hit the overweight, no, no. | |
| When you hit the obese section of your BMI range, there is a 2% chance you ever make it back to normal. | |
| Do you know how much easier you're starting in life if you've got parents who care about diet, nutrition, and shit, and you make it to 18 at a normal BMI than a kid that's fucking overweight when they're five years old? | |
| Yeah, okay. | |
| That's cool. | |
| But when you become an adult, if you're still a fat ass, it's your fault. | |
| Ultimately, your programming during your first five years of life is going to influence many different aspects. | |
| For example, the amount of attention that you get from your parents, the nutrition that you eat. | |
| All of these things are forming your subconscious brain. | |
| So it's not just that, it's various aspects. | |
| No one here would disagree. | |
| For a lot of families of color in the United States, depending on your background, those things are starting off a lot further behind than other types of families. | |
| That's not an excuse to be a fat loser. | |
| I never said it's an excuse. | |
| This is just reality. | |
| You're justifying it. | |
| No, I'm just justifying it. | |
| I'm just saying that's reality. | |
| So what are you doing? | |
| I'm saying that if you look at a cohort of people, if you take a bunch of people, it's retarded to just say, oh, you need to make better choices. | |
| The reality is that 99% of people are going to be more or less moving through life in the environment they were born in. | |
| Very few people can But that and become way better than their environment. | |
| Okay, so as an adult, is it better to blame your environment or make better choices? | |
| You should make better choices, but realistically, most people won't. | |
| That's just the reality. | |
| But they should. | |
| Yeah, they should, but most people won't. | |
| Most people can't. | |
| No, no, no, no, no. | |
| It's either you can make better choices, you can't say they can't. | |
| You just choose not to. | |
| So y'all choose not to when y'all are living with a woman, then? | |
| Yeah, we chose not to. | |
| That's why you shouldn't live with them. | |
| Make better choices. | |
| We chose not to to maintain the attraction in the relationship, yes. | |
| Thank you. | |
| What's your argument here? | |
| My argument is that if y'all have the choice, then y'all have the choice regardless of what your environment is. | |
| Yeah, if you live with a woman, you're saying that living with a woman is such a toxic environment, it destroys your ability to hold frame. | |
| But, like, living from 0 to 18 with fucked parents and then suddenly overcoming that, you think that that's possible? | |
| It doesn't destroy the ability, but it's better to live with men so that that doesn't happen. | |
| Dude, you're playing such word games right now. | |
| You said earlier that if you live with a woman, it will make you a worse man. | |
| It's more likely for that to happen. | |
| It's easier to maintain frame if you're not living with your woman all the time. | |
| I'm going to repeat it again. | |
| You said if you live with a woman, it will make you a worse man. | |
| Makes you more attractive. | |
| No, no, you said earlier, you guys were all saying earlier, it will make you a worse man. | |
| It softens you up. | |
| It does soften you up. | |
| But why can't you just make better choices? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah, making better choices by getting out of the house more. | |
| Okay, two, then children should make better choices by having better parents and not being fat when they're five. | |
| What? | |
| What type of goalposts are you moving now? | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| You're saying that as a man, you're also more capable of making decisions than children. | |
| You said adults aren't capable. | |
| That's why they have to stay away from their women because if they stay near their women, that environment will destroy them. | |
| Alright, let's stay on top of it. | |
| Let's stay on top of it. | |
| You argue to argue, man. | |
| I'm done. | |
| That's what you guys are saying. | |
| Ms. | |
| Howard University, you were saying that there's racism in the medical industry because what? | |
| I'm sorry, that they label women as being obese? | |
| Sorry. | |
| No, I did not start this discussion on Black women and obesity. | |
| There's a plethora of reasons, actually, and the research really exists, and I'm not going to go into all of it. | |
| It is almost 1 a.m., and I do have work in the morning, but... | |
| The research is out there and Google is free. | |
| The stats are very real. | |
| There's a lot of social issues that surround it. | |
| There's a lot of socioeconomic differences that impact that. | |
| If you want to even start discussing obesity, socioeconomic status directly impacts the access to the quality of food that you're able to eat. | |
| So a lot of people in the Black community, they struggle with obesity because if you're in a low-income society, You are typically eating a lot of fast food out of necessity because you can't afford to go to the nearest Whole Foods. | |
| You can't afford to go to Publix. | |
| That's a very real issue. | |
| In New York City, for example, they say that the projects are right next to the Whole Foods. | |
| It's literally like two blocks away. | |
| It's about if you can afford it, not the proximity to the Whole Foods. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| But after 2020, you've got all these government benefits. | |
| You've got all these unemployment checks. | |
| And what do they spend it on? | |
| Weed? | |
| Wrapper weed? | |
| Rental cars. | |
| Just garbage. | |
| Nobody invested that money properly. | |
| All the people in the hood that got all these unemployment checks and got all these government stimulus checks, they spent it on weed. | |
| They didn't go and go to Whole Foods. | |
| How many people from the hood went to Whole Foods with those unemployment checks? | |
| First of all, that's not what I'm saying. | |
| I'm talking about stats. | |
| You can go break it down to an individual level, but I'm talking about statistically, and that's what I'm saying. | |
| That's what exists, and that's what you could Google, and that's what you could research. | |
| This narrative is why they start pushing towards slavery reparations. | |
| If you're going to make an argument on the show, you can't sit there and say Google it and then not stand for what you're trying to claim and say, I'm tired. | |
| No, it's just because I grew up in the hood, low income, and I'm not fat. | |
| Nobody in my family is fat. | |
| It doesn't matter if you're eating fast food. | |
| If you have discipline, you go to the gym, you can eat fast food. | |
| Wait, so now we're doing the exception thing? | |
| I'm saying, can I finish first? | |
| Oh, I didn't know we were doing the exception thing now. | |
| What about me personally? | |
| What I'm saying is you can, as a person, make better choices. | |
| You can eat McDonald's every day and if you're still going to the gym, you're not necessarily going to be fat. | |
| It doesn't matter about your income. | |
| You can buy fruit. | |
| They have fruit cups at fast food places too. | |
| Starbucks has it. | |
| McDonald's has it. | |
| You can choose healthy depending on your income and still discipline yourself. | |
| If you can't afford a gym membership, you could go to the beach, you can exercise. | |
| They have public gyms at the parks. | |
| So that's a cult. | |
| There's no excuse. | |
| Black people are just lazy. | |
| But it's smart. | |
| First off, let's not go into stereotypes. | |
| Hey, you started stereotyping the nurses. | |
| You brought up statistics on stereotypes. | |
| You brought up statistics on stereotypes. | |
| That's very real. | |
| Okay, because you're stereotyping the doctors. | |
| But you know what's going to hold you back more than the doctors. | |
| I didn't say doctors are racist. | |
| Fine. | |
| But in the medical industry, you know what's going to hold you back more? | |
| Then thinking that the doctors and the hospitals are KKK is that victim mindset. | |
| Slavery reparations, they're trying to advocate towards that right now in San Francisco and these places. | |
| As soon as they get the slavery reparations, they're not going to go to Whole Foods with that money. | |
| They're going to go right to the Jordan store. | |
| You can do both. | |
| You can simultaneously recognize that it's really hard to overcome your environment while still advocating for making good decisions. | |
| Like, You guys are supposed to pretend like environment doesn't matter, but you all realize how important environment is. | |
| That's why even though I was roasting you for it earlier, it is good to live with guys or at least have a network of guys that are pushing you to be better. | |
| Because left to their own devices, a guy will be fucking lazy. | |
| You'll sit on the couch, you'll smoke weed, you'll do nothing all day. | |
| But when you're surrounded by other people that are driving you to do better, then you're going to do better. | |
| Not necessarily because you're making better decisions, which you are, but because you've got people pushing you. | |
| And from ages 0 to 18, if you've got somebody pushing your whole life to have a routine, to have discipline, to go to the gym, to eat healthy, when that person turns 19, to pretend like they're making the same choice as another person that turns 19 who was given horrible discipline their whole life, it's just not true. | |
| One guy basically had his whole roadmap laid out. | |
| Yeah, but you've got to have the capability of realizing this is a shitty environment and get the hell out of it. | |
| I understand what you're saying, but what I'm telling you is that a guy that weighs, a guy that's like reasonably fit or whatever, that is 19 years old, that was in an easy family his whole fucking life, that dude might be a worse guy than a guy who's like 240 pounds, working on losing weight, you know, who comes from a shittier background. | |
| But like, if you look at them both, you say, well, the one guy is doing better, so he's a better person, but he's not making harder choices, not making better decisions. | |
| It was given to him his whole life. | |
| Here's the point. | |
| You cannot make an excuse for being fat. | |
| You could say it's racism or whatever it may be. | |
| There's no excuse why black women are 5'5", average height, and 185 pounds. | |
| That's more than a man. | |
| That's unacceptable. | |
| It's not about making excuses. | |
| They don't have access to healthy food! | |
| They've done studies. | |
| They've literally done studies with this where they fed people McDonald's every single day and that person ate a calorie deficit exercise and their blood markers still improve and their health improve by eating in a calorie deficit. | |
| This is the problem, right, when it comes to black men or whatever. | |
| They always want to point the fucking finger at other people for why they're not where they want to be. | |
| I am poor because of the man. | |
| I am fat because of the man. | |
| No, you're just fucking stupid. | |
| You took your stimulus check, go bought some new fucking Jordans, instead of investing it in something else. | |
| That's the reality, okay? | |
| The black community, a lot of times, has a victim mindset as to why they're not where they want to fucking be, and they blame race for it every single time. | |
| I would argue black people nowadays have more opportunities than a lot of other races, thanks to affirmative action, etc., You went to a historically black college. | |
| Is a white person going to get that opportunity? | |
| No. | |
| We don't complain about racism. | |
| White people don't need it. | |
| HBCUs are not bridging the education. | |
| I was about to say, please let's not get in the HBCU debate. | |
| I'm saying y'all have entire colleges dedicated to you. | |
| Is there a historically white college out there? | |
| No. | |
| Why do HBCUs exist? | |
| Why? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Does anyone know? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Because of racism, right? | |
| Black people were not allowed entry into any university in this country. | |
| I go to the University of Miami. | |
| Two generations ago, I wouldn't be able to. | |
| Yeah, but the creation of HBCUs was because of a lack of resources and access to the Black community. | |
| So these institutions were created for us to be able to receive an education and escape these low-income environments that y'all are talking about. | |
| It was created for that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You have it now. | |
| And there are white people that go to HBCUs. | |
| There are white people that attend Howard University. | |
| I had white classmates. | |
| And honestly, if we're going to boil it down to it, they get better scholarships at those HBCUs because they're diverse at that institution. | |
| That's the same thing for minorities at white-dominated schools. | |
| Yes, and there's nothing wrong with that. | |
| But what I'm saying is they're not barred entry just because they're white. | |
| All I'm saying is that when we look at life, okay, you look at how people are doing now, but that's not always fair. | |
| If you take a working class poor fuck and they come from that family, that person has accomplished just as much in life as a middle class person who came from a middle class family. | |
| They're both just on their tracks doing the same shit, but you'll give the middle class guy so much more credit, even though he hasn't done shit with his life. | |
| He just followed the path that was laid out before him. | |
| But when we see like a poor person or a fat person or whatever that was fat from birth, Like, we just say, like, oh, like, they're making bad shit decisions. | |
| They're fucking life up. | |
| But, like, the middle class person sits middle class their whole life. | |
| It's doing the same shit as the lower class person sits lower class their whole life. | |
| But we have a hard time accepting that. | |
| But, yeah, I get that. | |
| But they can't afford to make the same mistakes that the middle class person is starting at a deficit. | |
| And my thing is, again... | |
| Yeah, man. | |
| Whether you're born poor or you come in from a family where they didn't teach you nutrition, you can learn all this shit as an adult. | |
| It's on you to become an adult and learn this shit and become better than your parents did. | |
| I agree with that, but it's harder. | |
| It's harder because you have to focus so much on... | |
| Can I talk? | |
| You have to focus so much on trying to better your life because you're not getting as many opportunities as other people. | |
| So it's not about being lazy. | |
| They want to work hard. | |
| They want to move up in companies, but they're not getting those opportunities just because of the mere fact that the company doesn't want that base. | |
| That's not true. | |
| If you're a colored person in the United States now, No, but if you look at it, if you look at it, when black dollars stopped spending money, that one day they decided to move people up in their companies because they had less than about 2% that was anywhere from the first level. | |
| Because the reality is the reality of the world that we live in. | |
| What I'm saying is that the reason that they seem lazy is not that they're choosing to be that way. | |
| They're trying to work hard, but they're not getting those opportunities. | |
| All they can focus on is trying to fix their lives and benefit themselves financially. | |
| So it's really harder to try to work out when you have to work two to three jobs and you make no time for yourself but sleeping, eating, and working. | |
| I hear a bunch of wah, wah, wah, wah. | |
| But it's not a wah, wah, wah. | |
| It's not a wah, wah, wah. | |
| It's reality. | |
| No, no, it's not. | |
| Because here's the thing. | |
| That a lot of you guys keep making the mistake of making. | |
| When I was an agent and I was on the border and I saw people fucking crawling to come to the United States, being in the back of trucks, dying through heat exhaustion, getting fucking, uh, drowning in the Rio Grande River, etc. | |
| These people are dying to come to the United States to have the same opportunity that you guys are fucking crying and bitching about right now. | |
| Okay, so how about this? | |
| Hold on, let me finish my point. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| There is no fucking excuse to be broke, fat, a loser in the United States because there's people that literally die for that opportunity, but you guys want to sit here and talk about Systematic racism! | |
| No, it's fucked up! | |
| HBCUs because of racism, blah blah blah. | |
| People died to come and get the opportunities that you guys are bitching about right now, which is ridiculous because I've seen children die on their way here to have these opportunities that you guys are whining about right now. | |
| At the end of the day, the United States is still the best country in the world, whatever you guys want to say. | |
| And I would say we've cracked a lot of these racism things that you guys are talking about now, and people of color and people that are different have more opportunity than the same white people that oppressed you guys systematically for all these years that you keep bitching about. | |
| White supremacy is a lie. | |
| That's the problem. | |
| Y'all keep crying about The past, the past, the past! | |
| But what about now? | |
| Now, Black people have more opportunities than ever before. | |
| If you apply for a job, and he applies for a job, you're probably gonna get that job even though you might be less qualified than him because he's a white male. | |
| That's the reality. | |
| So I don't want to hear no more fucking bitching from people of color. | |
| At all. | |
| Especially if you're born here in the United States. | |
| It's not. | |
| And you mentioned opportunity. | |
| You know how many immigrants come here and take over because you guys are lazy? | |
| And it's not because they are not white. | |
| Immigrants come here and laugh at the Black community because you guys say all this dumb shit. | |
| We're Black too. | |
| We literally laugh at y'all. | |
| But we made a choice. | |
| You know what? | |
| Grab it! | |
| I don't want to be poor. | |
| My family's poor back home. | |
| I want to change that. | |
| It's a choice you got to make. | |
| It is a choice. | |
| But like, for example, my uncle, he is a lawyer. | |
| He went to school, did all of that. | |
| He went into a white law firm. | |
| They did not give him any cases because of the simple fact that he's black. | |
| Yes. | |
| So the reality... | |
| He might have been less qualified. | |
| It's not less qualified. | |
| How do you know that? | |
| It's not less qualified at all. | |
| Based on what? | |
| He was a brand new lawyer, right? | |
| Was he new? | |
| No. | |
| And what I'm saying is he went to a different law firm and got everything that he needed because that one was more diverse. | |
| You said he went to that wall from which means he's new Yeah This is what I'm talking about Y'all just make excuses for a while It's the fact that people can get People can get depressed and focus more on No, it's true though. | |
| People can get depressed and focus more on the fact that they're not getting... | |
| Depression, racism, obesity. | |
| It's true though. | |
| Men too. | |
| Men, when they're with women and they're not providing and doing what they're supposed to, they get depressed, they get fat. | |
| People lose the ability to do anything. | |
| He didn't get opportunity at his first place. | |
| But what did he do? | |
| He moved somewhere else. | |
| What did he get? | |
| More opportunity. | |
| So it's still a choice. | |
| So ultimately speaking, yeah, he didn't get the case. | |
| But that still proves the case that it's hard to find opportunity. | |
| No! | |
| He made a choice to make a change. | |
| Ultimately speaking, he's depressed. | |
| Who gives a fuck? | |
| He made a change. | |
| Who cares? | |
| Life is not easy! | |
| Life is not easy! | |
| Life has varying levels of difficulty depending on who you are going for. | |
| Explain to me how immigrants come here, don't speak the language, figure it out, go to college, get an education. | |
| Why are black Africans, right, from Africa doing way better than African Americans? | |
| It's not race! | |
| It's not race! | |
| The people that are willing to cross the fucking Atlantic Ocean, you're already selecting for a high Hyper, hyper, hyper. | |
| Do you think poor people from fucking Kenya are coming to the United States? | |
| They are. | |
| No, they're not. | |
| It's typically the most... | |
| Dude, Nigerians in the United States are the highest immigrant group of PhDs. | |
| More than white people, more than Chinese people, more than anybody else. | |
| Typically, the people that are immigrating from across the ocean to come to the United States are not the poor fucking people in the villages that we see on fucking commercials. | |
| A lot of time there, though. | |
| No, don't say a lot. | |
| That's not true. | |
| A lot of time there, though. | |
| That's not true. | |
| A lot of time there, though. | |
| Betray you. | |
| That's not true. | |
| Some of your most highly educated groups of people in the United States are people from Kenya, are people from Nigeria, are people from these African countries because they're all the wealthiest people that are coming over with high degrees and a lot of education. | |
| I don't know what you're talking about. | |
| You might say, oh yeah, they have money in their country or whatever. | |
| They're still poor though. | |
| In the grand scheme of things, they're still poor. | |
| Wikipedia, like, income level per, like, fucking ethnic group. | |
| My point is this. | |
| Africans can come here, right? | |
| And they're black too. | |
| Why are they successful when they're not dealing with it? | |
| Because they're black. | |
| They're not African-American. | |
| So you're telling me the police know the difference between Dikembe and fucking Jamal? | |
| The police are not the main reason why African Americans have trouble in the United States. | |
| The main reason is a history of segregation of the country and a devaluing of a family's ability to build generational wealth. | |
| It is color. | |
| No, it's not fuck color. | |
| The problem is the history you have in your family. | |
| When I go into a job and it's me and him, what do they see? | |
| Black. | |
| It doesn't matter if I'm from Africa or America. | |
| This is the level one racist talk. | |
| Nobody gives a fuck about this. | |
| This is why the experience of an African immigrant in the United States is way different than the experience of an African American. | |
| If you're an African immigrant, you might as well be white or fucking European. | |
| What? | |
| Yes. | |
| What are you talking about? | |
| Just what part of that do you understand? | |
| If you're an African immigrant coming to the United States, your outcomes in life, the places that you live, the education you have, you're more on par with an upper-class white person than you are with a person who's a descendant of the slave. | |
| So you're saying the biggest difference is the mindset. | |
| It's not the circumstances, not the environment. | |
| No, it's not the mindset. | |
| It's the families that you come from. | |
| Somebody that comes from a family that's driven enough to get their children or themselves to move to the United States from Africa, this is a highly driven family. | |
| This is a lot different than somebody whose great-grandparents weren't allowed to buy a house in the city because they were redlined out by a bank in the United States. | |
| Highly driven is a mindset. | |
| Bro. | |
| Literally speaking, I get what you're saying, but you can't say that because people might get inspired from watching a TV show. | |
| They might see a friend. | |
| You don't know why they came here. | |
| So you can't really say that. | |
| No, but I'm saying you're selecting for the people that were inspired enough to come over. | |
| I mean, typically speaking, people coming over here, it's because they're going through intense hardship and the risk of coming over here is worth more than the pain that they're in, where they're currently coming from, right? | |
| And so- Wait a second. | |
| No, you go on. | |
| You're fine. | |
| Well, I was gonna say, like, it's not the people that are suffering the most hardship that are able to make that move. | |
| That's a really big move coming from Africa to the United States. | |
| An average poor person that lives in fucking Sub-Saharan Africa is not like, oh, I'm gonna go try my luck in the U.S. I'm not talking about resources. | |
| I'm saying the mentality. | |
| Like, somebody literally needs to be like, okay, me doing this and making this crazy move is worth more of a risk than me staying in my current situation, which is obviously very shitty. | |
| Does anyone else have anything? | |
| Because I want to make sure... | |
| We're getting some heavy fucking topics here. | |
| Red, white, green... | |
| Y'all in the corner haven't said shit. | |
| I do. | |
| I just like... | |
| I don't know when to chime in. | |
| I mean, what do you got? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Chime in now. | |
| You got it. | |
| No, I was just going to say, so I think that people come here because, yeah, like he was saying, I do agree. | |
| Like their family has a different mindset. | |
| So that mindset that they grow up with pushes them to want to come here and they come here with that mindset. | |
| And I think that coming to America, there's more opportunity so they can really like flourish because they're coming from a mindset that's like, they're already coming here with that mindset. | |
| They're not stuck in any like habitual, like routine, like, you know, The lower class people in America who, you know, live in, they're around that every day. | |
| They're in that environment every day. | |
| So they don't have the same aspirations as someone who's sent here from a family. | |
| So therefore they deserve to be poor and fat. | |
| That's my argument. | |
| The United States is a meritocracy. | |
| It's not fair. | |
| Life isn't fair. | |
| I think if you're fat and you don't have money, that's your fucking fault. | |
| There's no excuse for that. | |
| It's not the color of your skin or the language you speak or the religion you practice. | |
| It's that you're just a fucking loser. | |
| But we don't want to tell people that they're losers anymore. | |
| We really don't. | |
| We want to give everyone an excuse for why they're mediocre. | |
| I refuse to accept the fact that people are mediocre or losers because of their race. | |
| No, they make mediocre decisions. | |
| My only point is that if you're a middle class person, you end up a middle class person. | |
| You made mediocre decisions too. | |
| You just didn't get punished for it. | |
| But you don't have to because you guys aren't calling middle class people losers. | |
| You're like, oh, good job. | |
| You're doing a good job. | |
| They're not doing a better job. | |
| But they're not going to get the same amount of respect. | |
| Yeah, but also there's no excuse nowadays. | |
| There's so much information on the internet. | |
| If someone wants to change, go watch a YouTube video on how to diet. | |
| There you go. | |
| Epigenetics. | |
| It talks about, it's not your genetics, it's your environment. | |
| It's new modern science that people, and it's readily available. | |
| Life is happening at a faster rate. | |
| There's no excuse for people anymore. | |
| So if someone wants to change, they just have to put the effort into doing it. | |
| Do you have something, Red? | |
| I mean, I feel like if you really want to do something, you put your mind to it. | |
| Then, um, you can achieve it. | |
| I mean, obviously, like, to an extent, but, like, me personally, like, say, like, I say, like, oh, I want to go and, like, have a better body, right? | |
| If I really want to have a better body, and I'm really dedicated to it, I'll do it. | |
| So, if you want to do something, you're gonna go and do it. | |
| There's really no excuse, like, especially now, like, in modern days. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| Anybody else got anything? | |
| Miss Howard University? | |
| More chats. | |
| I'm finished. | |
| I agree a lot with her because I think if I'm a hard worker person, if I'm focused, I can get whatever I want. | |
| It's just like that. | |
| I'm Venezuelan, okay? | |
| And I come here to this country because I know here I'm going to get more opportunities. | |
| I'm going to be better here. | |
| I can do what I want. | |
| So I think it's a mentality thing. | |
| All right. | |
| We got Tim Nura. | |
| He has Lloyd from Tilda of Symphonia. | |
| What? | |
| The game. | |
| I was like, what the hell? | |
| Okay, can we get some women speaking up instead of the simping aroma that Destiny is spewing? | |
| Jeez, it's like arguing with Destiny versus getting women's opinions, which is it holy? | |
| Well, bro, the women don't want to talk. | |
| I don't know what to tell you. | |
| We try to tell them to see if they want to talk. | |
| I found FNF. I became a fan. | |
| I found Destiny. | |
| I became a fan. | |
| I found Sneeko. | |
| I was on the fence. | |
| He started hanging with FNF. I wasn't a fan, but now he has become open-minded watching him and Destiny Body Roller. | |
| You have a new subscriber. | |
| Also, Dom is fire. | |
| We'll DM. What? | |
| Dom? | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Who's Dom? | |
| The lawyer. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| That's my name. | |
| Okay. | |
| Well, hopefully you'll have better arguments for him. | |
| Why you don't want to go on a date with him? | |
| All right. | |
| Soul Snatch Store. | |
| Where are we at here? | |
| Shout out to Wayne. | |
| Is that what it is? | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Shout out to Wayne. | |
| Appreciate that. | |
| Should you reward your main girl with something spicy? | |
| What should your girl surprise you with as a high-value man? | |
| Whatever you need. | |
| That's her job to figure out, bro. | |
| Her job is to come in and see what you have going on in your life. | |
| She can figure it out. | |
| If men did not cheat, then the condom industry would be out of business. | |
| Just saying. | |
| Okay. | |
| Kind of shrugged. | |
| Education and length of a relationship doesn't matter when you want us to defend your life as men should. | |
| Zena acting like a pick-me right now. | |
| Being a pick-me is a good thing. | |
| I think so, too. | |
| That's not a bad insult. | |
| There's no way you would only fantasize about Sneeko while he's out committing haram. | |
| Also, Sneeko mentioned RP doesn't teach you to be a good dad. | |
| Don't you think part of being a good dad is being a good husband? | |
| Yeah, it goes hand in hand, but I don't think marriage is worthwhile in the West anymore, so it's hard to really equate being a good husband. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| I disagree wholeheartedly with this whole pick-me thing. | |
| I think it's a tactic to shame women to get into relationships with men. | |
| Because at the end of the day, if a girl wants a man to pick her, she's got to become a girl. | |
| That's basically a pick-me. | |
| She's got a piece of what that guy wants. | |
| I think this whole single, strong, independent woman narrative of you do what you want and the guy's going to be there at the end of the day, that's not good advice. | |
| In Japan, all the girls are pick-me's. | |
| They want to be picked really badly. | |
| They want to be able to go and serve a man. | |
| It's not a bad thing over there. | |
| They're actually rewarded for that. | |
| That's actually wrong. | |
| They're more career-driven right now in Japan. | |
| Everybody's feminine, even the men. | |
| I've studied Japanese culture since I was 12. | |
| The women don't want to be wives in Japan in most cases. | |
| Their studies, they have the documentaries about it and all of that. | |
| They are career-driven because they don't want to be stuck in the house anymore. | |
| It's getting harder right now because it's getting more industrialized, but they do want to be wives. | |
| As far as I know, since 2012 and studying since then, they've wanted to be career driven and the men are very feminine. | |
| That's why they're not. | |
| Real quick question. | |
| Let me ask a question to ladies. | |
| Is being a pick me bad in your take? | |
| Raise a hand if you think it's bad being a pick me girl. | |
| I still don't fully get what it means. | |
| A pick me is a girl that throws other women out of the bust when they approve of men. | |
| That's a pick me. | |
| A pick me is a girl going like, oh yeah, other women are dumb bitches. | |
| I'm not like other women. | |
| Pick me. | |
| That's what a pick me is. | |
| So pick me literally means pick me. | |
| No, no. | |
| That's not how anybody uses pick me. | |
| Pick me is a woman that will conform her ideals subjected behind a man that she wants to be with. | |
| That's okay. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I understand what you're saying. | |
| You're saying people don't... | |
| Well, for example, they don't want to hear it. | |
| They want to see action. | |
| So when you say it out loud, it's like, why are you saying it out loud? | |
| But if you do an action, that's what you're saying. | |
| Because shooting on other girls, even girls that aren't pick me's do that. | |
| Let's be honest. | |
| If a girl doesn't like another chick, that bitch is a hoe or whatever and she'll bring her down to bring herself up. | |
| Sure, I know. | |
| We can use a different term, but when people say pick me, it's an insult. | |
| That's what they mean when they say Yeah, but I'm saying, like, do the girls here think Pick Me is an insult? | |
| I think of pick me in the same way that he described it and that therefore I don't think whatever your preferences makes you bad like I said earlier I think we all have different preferences all have different things we want out of life relationships whatever we're all like doing our own thing so I don't think it's bad I do think it's negative to shame other women for their preferences though and I think that goes both ways if you're more a traditional woman shaming a modern woman if you're a modern woman shaming a traditional woman I think that is bad yeah So you disagree with the shaming in general? | |
| Yeah, I don't think that we should be shaming other women that we disagree with. | |
| I think we both can live our different lives. | |
| What the next girl is doing does not impact me and my day-to-day. | |
| I disagree. | |
| I think shaming is very good. | |
| Do you think that we should shame women for posting almost naked photos on Instagram? | |
| I think if you have a problem with that and you're in a relationship with your woman, you should discuss that with her. | |
| No, you think women should shame other women for being slutty on Instagram? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| No, I mean, what I choose to post, like, I don't post that type of content, but, like, if someone else does, that's none of my business. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I disagree. | |
| I think it's good if people keep each other in line and shaming is a good tactic for that. | |
| Like, that's the same reason why I think it's okay to, why it's good to live with other men because if you start being a lazy piece of shit, they're gonna shame you for being a lazy piece of shit. | |
| Start working out right now. | |
| Start becoming better. | |
| We all, everybody here agrees that shaming is good. | |
| It's just a matter of- No, they don't agree. | |
| No, no. | |
| They absolutely do. | |
| Do you think shaming is good? | |
| Hold on. | |
| - Do you think you should shame people for wanting to fuck kids? | |
| - Well, yeah. | |
| - Okay, so hold on, wait, just stop. | |
| - Fuck kids. - All of us agree that shaming is good, it's just what do you shame people for? | |
| What he's also trying to say is context matters in what we're talking about shaming. | |
| How did he just say that? | |
| Because you guys are like, oh no, they don't believe shaming is good. | |
| I'm sure they believe that shaming for a lot of behavior is good. | |
| You said a specific thing, and I'm saying shaming for that, no. | |
| A girl sexualizing herself. | |
| He was very specific in the shaming and the girl said no. | |
| I can walk you through the logic train if you want. | |
| You asked her, you said, should we be shaming women for posting nudie pictures on Instagram? | |
| And then she said, no, I don't think so. | |
| And then you started saying broadly, oh, well, I think shame is good in society. | |
| So for instance, bros shaming each other to work harder, blah, blah, blah. | |
| And then you said, they don't agree with shaming. | |
| You broadened it. | |
| What she said is she doesn't agree with shaming women for posting nudie pictures on Instagram. | |
| Not that she doesn't agree with the concept of shaming. | |
| All of us agree that shaming to some extent is good. | |
| There's a lot of antisocial behavior. | |
| He said that shaming for nudie pictures. | |
| But then he talked about shaming in terms of men driving other men to be better. | |
| Use it as an example. | |
| Does anybody here think that we shouldn't shame for anything? | |
| The easy way out. | |
| Posting half-naked photos on Instagram is taking the easy way out as women. | |
| Being a lazy weed smoker gamer all day is an easy way out for men. | |
| That's how I'm equating it. | |
| And then you bring up fucking kids. | |
| Because you're trying to make the claim that these women don't agree with shaming when that's not true. | |
| Every person here would agree with shaming to some extent. | |
| But he quantified it before. | |
| He didn't quantify it. | |
| He literally broadened it to men shaming other men. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| He didn't broaden it. | |
| He used it as an example of how shaming could work. | |
| Okay. | |
| Nobody here is against shaming. | |
| They were against shaming for that particular thing. | |
| If you asked them before you brought up fucking kids, they all would have said, no, I'm not going to go tell anybody to do... | |
| I'm not going to get involved in their choices. | |
| That's what they all would have said. | |
| They wouldn't have said that, though, because if you bring it up to a whole bunch of things, like fucking kids, for instance, they would say, no, I would shame people about that. | |
| Why is that the example you're using? | |
| Because it's the easiest one to point out how absurd your statement is. | |
| Destiny, your new name is Details. | |
| Okay? | |
| All right, let's move on. | |
| Deflect Destiny. | |
| Yeah, Deflect Destiny. | |
| Yo! | |
| Bro, that was the weirdest argument I've ever heard of you make, bro. | |
| That was a roller argument. | |
| Oh, by the way, I was wrong about Japan. | |
| I gotta say that. | |
| You were wrong about Japan? | |
| I was wrong. | |
| The Bible does describe polygamy, but it's not prescribed. | |
| Is that the same one? | |
| Yeah, we read this. | |
| Anthony Lewis, Destiny, you're almost more... | |
| You're almost than the girls. | |
| I don't know. | |
| You're almost more girls than the girls. | |
| More feminine, probably. | |
| Guys tell girls what they want, and they tell us we're wrong. | |
| Girl next to Fresh just told you what she would accept cheating under circumstances, and you coped and said only red pill girls would say that. | |
| Get help. | |
| Fair enough. | |
| All right. | |
| Are we going to turn to ladies now? | |
| Yes. | |
| All right. | |
| Zina 100% wrong about Japanese women. | |
| She's never even been to Japan. | |
| I've been friends with Yukina since I was fucking 11 years old and she would tell me about the culture and then give me stuff to read. | |
| I didn't know I was wrong. | |
| I don't watch Naruto. | |
| I hate Naruto. | |
| I hate Naruto. | |
| I figured out Destiny's debate tactics, though. | |
| For anybody who's going to debate him, just be very careful when he moves the goalposts, because you're going to get tricked and talk about fucking kids when you're talking about something very specific. | |
| Don't say something as broad as they're again shaming, and then you won't have to commit yourself to any retarded statements like they never want to shame anything. | |
| He quantified it. | |
| He didn't quantified it. | |
| You want to play the rewind button, and then play it back. | |
| I'm explaining to you now. | |
| It's laziness. | |
| Women posting their body on Instagram for random men is lazy when they could find a man that they really want to be with. | |
| Men slacking up and smoking weed is lazy. | |
| The first time I actually agree with him. | |
| You agree with fucking kids? | |
| Okay, never mind. | |
| Fuck, I am wrong. | |
| I fucked up. | |
| The first time, it's because he's saying, right, that you said to her the prior statement and then you made it very vague. | |
| But the part about fucking kids, that's fucking weird, bro. | |
| True. | |
| Can you play the hallelujah sound? | |
| Why are black men the most fit group of men? | |
| Ooh. | |
| Damn. | |
| Okay. | |
| While black women are fat? | |
| Okay. | |
| Being big is a choice, not a product of an environment. | |
| Hey, man, I don't see black women in the gym. | |
| I ain't gonna lie. | |
| I really don't see them in there. | |
| I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I've never seen them in the gym. | |
| Never. | |
| I see white girls and Spanish girls in there, but I don't see no black girls in there. | |
| There's a couple of mine, but they're African. | |
| There you go. | |
| Okay, African-American women. | |
| We don't see them in the gym. | |
| Between the four major groups, whites, blacks, Espanols, and Orients times two for men and women equals eight groups. | |
| Black women are the biggest. | |
| Black men are in sixth place. | |
| It's a choice black women are making. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There you go. | |
| According to Blue's Logic, a racist childhood will make it impossible to turn it off as an adult, so it should be acceptable. | |
| Just saying things rapidly and erroneously, but pushback will slow the conversation to a crawl fixing his points. | |
| Acceptance. | |
| Aaron Martinez goes, Lawyer Girl is right that fast food is cheaper and more easily accessible, but you still have personal responsibility. | |
| You can always eat only half the Big Mac and not get the fries. | |
| It's a racial thing. | |
| And even if it was, so what? | |
| Do better. | |
| Do you have anything you want to say, Ms. | |
| Howard? | |
| I literally said like 10 minutes ago, I'm done debating that. | |
| Then why are you here, bro? | |
| Then why are you here? | |
| No, there becomes a point where like you no longer argue with people that are committed to misunderstanding you. | |
| So out of the value of all of our time, I'm not going to keep us here all night to go back and forth over something that we clearly disagree on. | |
| We can just move on. | |
| No, it's not about that. | |
| My thing is, if you're going to make a stance and make a point, then the point of the podcast is to articulate your point. | |
| Yeah, and I feel like I articulated my point. | |
| We don't agree. | |
| We can move on. | |
| You didn't really articulate anything. | |
| You said Google it. | |
| No, and I literally said the stats exist that highlight the discrepancies in these industries. | |
| Well, I don't have the stats memorized, so I don't want to regurgitate wrong information. | |
| Saying Google it is like, okay, then you know the rest of us just make a point. | |
| Google it, bro! | |
| It's there! | |
| But there's like We're talking about choices. | |
| There's a choice that we all can make to make sure we're educated and make sure we read up on things. | |
| We probably all have different areas that we read up on and learn about and want to be knowledgeable of. | |
| So when I said Google it, it's like, on your time, if you want to learn more about that, which I take that you don't, you can go and read up on these stats. | |
| But y'all are already committed to misunderstanding what I am saying. | |
| I'm not going to make you agree with me. | |
| I value my time. | |
| And you might feel that way. | |
| I don't. | |
| I just value my time. | |
| I have to go home. | |
| Just go home right now. | |
| Just go home right now. | |
| Get out of here. | |
| Bye, everyone. | |
| It was nice to meet you. | |
| I don't know what you think this is. | |
| This is our shit. | |
| You're not going to come in here and be like, I'm not going to waste my time. | |
| Then get out of here. | |
| I feel like we went back and forth to this point. | |
| This is an opportunity for you, bro. | |
| Get out of here. | |
| Just leave. | |
| Bye, queen. | |
| Bye. | |
| Bye. | |
| Bye, Quinn. | |
| What the fuck, man? | |
| Ridiculous. | |
| Okay, nice. | |
| Where we at here? | |
| Stanley. | |
| Incredible. | |
| Stanley Frederick. | |
| Hey, Martin, I usually agree with you, but when it comes to race, you're dead wrong. | |
| Black people ain't lazy. | |
| That's a myth. | |
| Black people don't have the same economic opportunities as other groups because of racism and discrimination, which you feel to realize... | |
| Okay. | |
| You're a fucking crybaby, bro. | |
| Like, get the fuck out of here, man. | |
| Please explain to me why black people are the most evicted class of people when it comes to paying rent. | |
| Explain that to me. | |
| And they are only 50% of the population. | |
| Why did Walmart just move out of Chicago? | |
| Like, get the fuck out of here with that, man. | |
| Like... | |
| It is what it is, man. | |
| Let's continue on, Jake. | |
| I feel like with you, it's only black or white. | |
| Like, you can have contrast, you know? | |
| Like, okay, you can say that black people are lazy or whatever, but you can also say that... | |
| I'm not saying all, but there's a... | |
| I mean, all people are lazy. | |
| Yeah, but you can also say that the fact that you are a certain race in America, because... | |
| We are in America. | |
| You have less chances. | |
| You can say that. | |
| You can acknowledge that. | |
| But there's no point in saying that because that's just going to keep holding you back. | |
| Even if it is true that racism is holding you back, you believing it is going to hold you back even more. | |
| So why even think that? | |
| Why not just work harder? | |
| No, but I'm not a lazy person. | |
| I don't believe in that. | |
| But I'm just saying, just brushing off is saying, oh, you're just lazy. | |
| You're just lazy. | |
| That's the best thing you can do. | |
| How, though? | |
| Because, okay, you can push someone, but you don't have to, like, just... | |
| Brush off everything, you know? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I feel like you can acknowledge the fact that... | |
| But that doesn't accomplish anything. | |
| Acknowledging it and crying about racism. | |
| Okay, shaming is not... | |
| What's your solution? | |
| I feel like change comes from within. | |
| So if someone wants to change, they're going to change. | |
| I don't feel like if you bully someone... | |
| She's from France. | |
| It's a failed society. | |
| Socialists. | |
| How can you say that? | |
| France is... | |
| Paris is burning. | |
| She's saying this ridiculousness because she's from France. | |
| It's a socialist country. | |
| France is a grey country. | |
| It's a terrible country. | |
| It's a grey country. | |
| Failed society. | |
| Melt. | |
| Melt. | |
| I don't know. | |
| No, I'm not agreeing. | |
| It's a melt. | |
| It's a melt society. | |
| Paris is burning to the ground. | |
| Y'all have a bunch of issues. | |
| I am Dautique. | |
| I am Dautique. | |
| Like France is a melt society. | |
| I don't know how we were saying Paris is burning to the ground. | |
| You can walk through any major American city in the entire United States and find like fucking encampments of homeless people all over the fucking place. | |
| Yeah, the liberal cities. | |
| We can watch BLM protests on the street where there's actually cities burning. | |
| Liberal cities for sure. | |
| I know, but it's funny to say like France is a failed state when like we've got like people that die on the streets. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's like insane to me. | |
| The liberal cities in America are part of America, whether you like it or not. | |
| And also, the downsides of socialism really only come out to play when there comes time for mass government control. | |
| For example, with the incidences of the COVID stuff, Australia isn't exactly like a socialist state, but kind of teeters on the borderline. | |
| Sure, France isn't socialist either. | |
| They just have a lot of social programs. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Okay. | |
| Which is why she's saying like, oh, people's circumstances are feelings. | |
| That's not what I'm saying. | |
| I'm saying that you're too much black or white. | |
| Sometimes it's contrast. | |
| I mean, you can say that, okay, you're lazy, but you can also say that you're... | |
| It's very simple. | |
| If you're fat and you don't have money... | |
| By definition, you are lazy. | |
| Okay, but I'm agreeing. | |
| No, you're not. | |
| I am, but you don't have to be black or white. | |
| I can agree with you, but still say that if you come from a certain country, if you come from a certain environment, no, not feelings. | |
| I'm talking facts. | |
| It's bigger than black and white? | |
| It's a problem with the whole way of life. | |
| When you say feelings, it's because you're in your feelings. | |
| You can't critically engage. | |
| That's what you're doing, right? | |
| You're in your feelings. | |
| You can't critically engage with what she's saying. | |
| What is she saying that's new besides just be more than black and white? | |
| What I'm saying is it's easy to say that, oh, you're lazy. | |
| Just get your life together. | |
| Right, but it's not that black and white. | |
| She said the same thing three times. | |
| Land on the plane, man. | |
| Goddamn. | |
| What she's saying is that everybody should make the best choices, but not all choices are weighted evenly. | |
| It's easy to make the right choice when you come from the right family, but it's hard to make the right choice. | |
| What is the point in thinking that or saying that? | |
| The point is that you should still always tell people to make the best choices. | |
| Nobody's going to care about you except for you. | |
| Leave it at that. | |
| No, you can't just leave it at that. | |
| Why not? | |
| Because then when we look at the United States, we get people saying retarded shit like black people are lazy. | |
| That's not true. | |
| There's a reason why that is the case. | |
| Unless you believe that black people or African Americans are genetically more fucked. | |
| We didn't say all of them. | |
| Sure, but I know, but when you look at the state of the United States, you've got to wonder, why are African Americans so funny and retorted? | |
| So why are they? | |
| Is it just because they happen to all be fucking lazy and stupid? | |
| Or are there other reasons for that? | |
| It's the culture. | |
| Yeah, but where does their culture come from? | |
| Is that because they're black? | |
| Because Africans clearly come from their kids. | |
| Exactly, that's true. | |
| It's the culture. | |
| Do you want to know where the culture comes from? | |
| Yeah, where does the culture come from? | |
| Who controls the music industry? | |
| What is a lot of the music industry even in response to? | |
| What were the first black rappers talking about? | |
| Fuck the police! | |
| Where did that come from? | |
| That was part of the culture of being attacked by white police in the United States. | |
| Who owns the labels? | |
| Who pushes this culture? | |
| Are we doing the Jewish shit right now? | |
| If you really want to talk about it, who's pushing this culture? | |
| It's not black people's fault. | |
| It's Jewish people's fault. | |
| No, I didn't say that. | |
| Now we're really playing the blame game. | |
| I didn't say that. | |
| I'm going to say, who pushed the culture? | |
| Can we say that word, then? | |
| Why are you being anti-Semitic, Destiny? | |
| I don't say that. | |
| Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay. | |
| Yeah, Rumble. | |
| Yeah, we going to rumble right now? | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| Yeah, we're fine. | |
| All right, we'll just end it there, then. | |
| We love all people here. | |
| I love all people, man. | |
| Destiny, that was really anti-Semitic of you. | |
| I love them too. | |
| The labels make some good music. | |
| J-Roll Gunner goes, Destiny is horribly wrong with his take on African immigrants to the West. | |
| Rich Africans don't leave Africa. | |
| True, only the poor ones. | |
| Full Wee Todd goes, Also blacks come from the motherland and they average more money than white Americans. | |
| My family had no money when they came. | |
| Most of them that come here have no money. | |
| It's a mindset, not money. | |
| He knows the way. | |
| Just Relax goes, I'm asking, my dad came here for the opportunity El Campo Myron is talking about, not knowing anything or anyone. | |
| His net worth is in the low millions, now self-made. | |
| He didn't complain, just got it done. | |
| It's a choice. | |
| Absolutely, my friend. | |
| Three Diglets goes, the only lazy thing I see tonight is that eye. | |
| You saw that? | |
| Especially when she got funny, it's like, damn, I don't want to knock that out. | |
| Guys, guys, don't talk shit. | |
| What's just going on, right? | |
| Shut up, Chris. | |
| I think she was a nice young lady. | |
| She just had... | |
| She was a feminist. | |
| And she's an independent girl boss queen. | |
| I think she's a nice young lady. | |
| She's a nice lady. | |
| I'm Nigerian with a medical degree. | |
| My dad was a poor farmer before coming to the U.S. on a student visa and became an accountant father after washing dishes to manual labor jobs to fund his education. | |
| He experienced a lot of racism in the corporate world. | |
| Tim Neroth goes, question for ladies. | |
| Why is a dory more important in other countries and meaningful? | |
| Oh, dory. | |
| Okay. | |
| He spelled it wrong. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Versus American women aren't worth a dowry. | |
| I'm married to a real African woman born and raised and she acts more of a woman role. | |
| Versus you know how you all act. | |
| Jeez. | |
| What is he trying to say? | |
| That's fine. | |
| He's saying that Western women are feminine. | |
| Yeah, and they don't deserve a dowry. | |
| Anything else? | |
| No, cut up. | |
| No, cool. | |
| All right. | |
| Fresh and free apart of the show. | |
| Ladies, we'll do questions, comments, or live thoughts on the show. | |
| How's the show for you? | |
| We'll start right here. | |
| I mean, it's always nice to be on this panel. | |
| I always get new knowledge from new people. | |
| It's nice to meet you guys. | |
| I don't know much about you guys, but I know a lot about someone. | |
| Someone? | |
| I don't have any comments. | |
| It's just that every time I come here, I get more knowledge. | |
| Since the first time I got here, I learned a lot. | |
| That's it. | |
| Who did you learn from? | |
| Okay, let's move on. | |
| What about you? | |
| Grow up. | |
| Honestly. | |
| I think I like that podcast, this podcast. | |
| I enjoy it. | |
| It's like I like to know the point of view of all of these people, these new people I'm meeting right now. | |
| So, I don't know, maybe you come back? | |
| Maybe, yeah. | |
| I'm more like a listener. | |
| what's that saying in Spanish? | |
| Do you like living in a capitalistic society more or a socialist society like Venezuela? | |
| Capitalism. | |
| We all do, yep. | |
| Good. | |
| Of course. | |
| What about you? | |
| What are your final thoughts or disagreements? | |
| Fuck you, nigga! | |
| No, it's nothing like that. | |
| Like, I agree and disagree. | |
| I agree and disagree with a lot of stuff. | |
| What do you disagree with? | |
| Just certain perspectives, but like... | |
| Like? | |
| Okay, so, like, I can agree that it is a choice with your, like... | |
| Health and what you eat and what you choose to work out, etc. | |
| I do agree that you can choose to diet. | |
| You can choose that stuff. | |
| You know, I can agree with that. | |
| But like, you know, obviously, like we don't get handed down money. | |
| So sometimes that's why certain people choose the streets or harder routes. | |
| So like, that's what I'm saying. | |
| Like they choose something faster because they don't know how to get it because it's not getting passed down. | |
| So I decided to sell drugs instead. | |
| It's not a smart move, but sometimes they feel like that's their only option because the other options aren't coming fast enough and they're struggling to pay rent. | |
| That's coping though. | |
| It's not coping because they can have two whole jobs and it's still not enough to pay rent. | |
| So they're gonna sell drugs instead? | |
| How many times does a guy that goes to a nice high school have to choose whether he's gonna sell drugs or not? | |
| You don't even make that choice. | |
| Like, how can you even judge somebody that has to? | |
| They do when they pay the re-up guy. | |
| There's a difference between a wealthy white kid that buys weed to smoke versus a black kid in the fucking ghetto that can only make money selling weed. | |
| There's two different experiences. | |
| I'm just saying that's reality. | |
| They can sow candy! | |
| They can sell other things. | |
| Yeah, they do sell candy. | |
| And then something else I disagree on is like, I do agree that a woman should be able to be submissive and depend on her man, but however, she should have something for herself also. | |
| So that if that man decides to leave, she's not left stranded. | |
| She can depend on herself. | |
| She can fall on herself without having to cry and fall back on her family if she even has any. | |
| Go queen. | |
| Alright. | |
| Other than that, I mean, I liked it. | |
| I would come back. | |
| If we have you back. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about you, Ms. | |
| Navajo? | |
| Not a hoe. | |
| Never a hoe. | |
| I think you only said like two sentences this whole podcast. | |
| Yeah, I feel like I just, I didn't get a chance to talk much. | |
| Come on, man. | |
| We gave you opportunities. | |
| You didn't say nothing. | |
| No, it was like a lot of yelling, a lot of hostility, a lot of masculine energy here, and I just didn't want to like, I don't know. | |
| I mean, it was like what you were saying. | |
| Women need to be submissive anyway, so I was just playing my role like you guys like. | |
| Alright, get your chance to talk. | |
| Go ahead. | |
| What do you got to say? | |
| Five rating misogyny. | |
| I mean, so the one thing that I can remember from the whole conversation was when you guys were talking about, like, having a separate home for a guy to live in or your husband, whatever. | |
| I actually agree with that to some degree because... | |
| I'm a very independent woman, so if you're an independent woman who has been independent your whole life, but I'm still submissive at the same time, so I think it would be healthy. | |
| I wouldn't want my guy around me all the time. | |
| You were saying, oh, the girl's going to... | |
| Separation makes the heart grow fonder. | |
| Okay. | |
| But what if the girl's enjoying it, too? | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, I feel like, okay, so, like, I like my space. | |
| Like, I wouldn't, like, if I'm in a relationship with a guy, yeah, like, I don't want a guy, like, I'm saying, like, I don't want a guy, like, in my, like, in my shit. | |
| Like, I want to have my time to go to the gym. | |
| I want to have my, and I don't really care to do things together. | |
| Like, I'm not an, like, I'm not an emotional person. | |
| I don't need someone to be there. | |
| Helping me. | |
| Every second of the way, I'm very independent. | |
| I have my own goals and structure to my life. | |
| So if a guy is constantly there, it's not going to work. | |
| And I've been in three long-term relationships, and that's what's caused the breakups. | |
| It's living together. | |
| The moment that we moved in together, I just couldn't do it. | |
| So yeah, that was the only thing that I wanted to say. | |
| Okay. | |
| What about you? | |
| Um, I honestly didn't think, like, I'd agree, like, so much, especially with this podcast, but, um, like, a lot of things that you guys talk about, it's, like, it's very, like, um... | |
| Realistic? | |
| Yeah, so, like, for example, when you guys talk about certain things, like, like, simps or, like, stuff like that, it makes sense, or, like, nice guys. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because I feel like, as a man, you should provide and, like, be comfortable with your life and also have a woman by your side that supports everything that you do. | |
| Mm-hmm. | |
| And if you can't have that, then I feel like you're not a high-value man or you just don't feel like... | |
| Like, give her her needs, you know what I mean? | |
| And she doesn't give you yours, so I don't know. | |
| But my point is that, like, this whole podcast just, like, opened my eyes to certain things and I think, like... | |
| I would watch it more, because I didn't really watch it before, but now I for sure think if I could open up my brain that much. | |
| I just realized, Destiny, you've kind of been hogging a lot of the air time for somebody who thinks that women's input are equally as important to men. | |
| I have to balance out the fact that I do women equal in partnerships, but I also hate women at the same time. | |
| Even when they're talking, you're on your phone, you're over here, you don't really care. | |
| Are there other opinions really that valid? | |
| I'm on a show, so of course I'm going to talk a lot. | |
| He was on his phone not much. | |
| When he wasn't talking, he's on his phone. | |
| You've been on your phone a lot too. | |
| I thought that their opinions mattered. | |
| Sure, yeah. | |
| So listen up. | |
| Well, for me, I was actually excited to come on because of Destiny. | |
| I think that it's really important to intentionally seek out opinions that are nuanced or different to yours. | |
| Because one of two things is going to happen. | |
| Either you're going to have more nuance or more knowledge in your conversation or more empathy for the situation. | |
| Or on the other hand, Someone is just going to sound like a total idiot and it's going to strengthen your argument. | |
| And for me, whenever I listen to Destiny, I at least, even if I totally disagree, it's at least a little something where I'm like, okay, I can kind of see your point. | |
| And so for me, that's why I was really excited to come on tonight. | |
| And I definitely got a lot of that. | |
| No! | |
| And I wanted to hear a sneak on Destiny debate as well. | |
| And then you dumped your man. | |
| Can we find out what happened now? | |
| You said that you weren't going to open up immediately, but what happened? | |
| After the cameras turned off. | |
| He was being too much of a nice guy, that's why. | |
| That's why she's laughing. | |
| I always love it pretty good, obviously. | |
| I can't say I learned anything. | |
| Should I already agree with? | |
| Xena, you were smiling the whole show. | |
| I wonder why. | |
| Smiling the whole night. | |
| I wonder why, too. | |
| But yeah, I just want to say Sneakle was 100% right and Destiny was wrong. | |
| Oh, okay. | |
| Destiny, have anything you want to say back to that? | |
| Women's opinions really do matter. | |
| Destiny, have anything you want to say back to that? | |
| No, not all women's opinions matter. | |
| Miss Paui. | |
| It was fun. | |
| It was cool. | |
| I'm glad to have everybody's opinion and stuff. | |
| I love to have debates. | |
| Of course, there's a lot of Stuff that I was not agreeing on, but... | |
| Such as? | |
| I mean, a few, but the biggest one definitely was the whole polygamy stuff. | |
| Like, a guy can fuck as much girl as he wants, and the girl needs to, like, not do anything, anything that is stupid. | |
| The Society Respect pose? | |
| Because... | |
| It's stupid. | |
| It's stupid? | |
| It's stupid. | |
| Oh, wow. | |
| It's not stupid. | |
| I like your accent. | |
| Do you want to sleep with me this time? | |
| Maybe. | |
| Peut-être. | |
| Peut-être. | |
| Oh. | |
| Trisome. | |
| What? | |
| No. | |
| All right. | |
| But, uh, yeah. | |
| Miss Petty, I gotta ask you. | |
| Does society respect hoes? | |
| I don't think men respect hoes in general. | |
| Okay, they don't. | |
| Society doesn't. | |
| But do people respect men that can get a lot of women? | |
| No, but... | |
| Yes or no? | |
| Does society respect men that can get a lot of girls? | |
| Society respect men that can get with a lot of girls? | |
| Yeah, yeah, because you're the men, right? | |
| Exactly. | |
| So you're not the same. | |
| So you having sex with a bunch of dudes is not the same as me fucking a bunch of girls. | |
| Of course, but I'm just saying if we are in a relationship and we love each other and we own each other loyalty and respect and you go ahead and you fuck with another girl because you just wanted to, if I just want to fuck with a man, I will. | |
| That makes you a hoe though. | |
| Okay, fine, but what does that make you? | |
| A hoe maker. | |
| Huh? | |
| You become a hoe. | |
| If I go fuck another girl, I'm a hoe maker. | |
| I made her a hoe. | |
| But you become a ho if you fuck another guy. | |
| She's a ho. | |
| Ho! | |
| There you go. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| I'm not agreeing with you. | |
| I just... | |
| It's not about being a ho. | |
| I'm not... | |
| I'm just talking about respect, you know? | |
| Respect is really important in a relationship. | |
| Oh, yes! | |
| Peace! | |
| Peace! | |
| And if you feel, yeah, and if it's an open relationship, that's fine. | |
| If you want to do you, do you, if everybody does what they want. | |
| But if I don't want you to cheat, if I want you to have sex with another girl, I will tell you, okay, you can do it. | |
| But if I don't want you to do it, and you will do it. | |
| But men always want to have sex with other girls. | |
| Not all the time. | |
| Most of the time they do. | |
| Just to be clear, society doesn't respect hoes, it also doesn't respect men that cheat. | |
| Really? | |
| Really. | |
| If you're cheating on a wife, everybody looks down on you. | |
| Except for maybe the Red Pill's face. | |
| But most people look down on that too. | |
| Well, here's the thing. | |
| We tell guys to be honest with girls, but they're not going to be. | |
| Sure, that's fine, but I'm saying earlier, you tried to ask that return a little bit of like, do you respect a man that can fuck more women? | |
| The master keeper is my son. | |
| Yeah, they do. | |
| I didn't say cheating, though. | |
| I just said... | |
| No, no, I know, but I'm saying in general, very few people say you respect a man that cheats. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's an interesting being able to fuck a lot of girls versus stepping under your wife. | |
| Yeah, they will bash a woman for sure, but they will not respect a man either. | |
| Why do you want to cheat? | |
| I mean, that's okay if it's in your relationship, but don't say... | |
| See, I wasn't talking about cheating, though. | |
| See how Destiny just came in and changed the argument completely? | |
| Well, because you brought that thing up in response to her saying, Because her original point was, I don't agree with the one-sided open relationships. | |
| And then you kind of went, does society respect a hoe? | |
| You're a question of nothing to do with her. | |
| Because that makes her a hoe. | |
| How is she a hoe? | |
| But admit for the guy's a hoe if he cheats too. | |
| No, he's not. | |
| He's a hoe maker. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| All right. | |
| I have one question. | |
| What can I find y'all? | |
| What can I find you, bro? | |
| What's your number of telephone? | |
| I will give it to you after. | |
| It's a French number, though. | |
| There's no problem. | |
| Damn, Sniko, come on, man. | |
| We're going to find you, bro. | |
| YouTube.com slash Destiny. | |
| Instagram.com slash Destiny. | |
| Rumble.com slash Destiny. | |
| We're going to find you, Sneeko, other than her pants later. | |
| Elfresh. | |
| Rumble.com slash Sneeko. | |
| You already know what's up. | |
| And I'll see you guys tomorrow, 8 p.m. | |
| Eastern. | |
| Streaming. | |
| Awesome! | |
| This was a great panel. | |
| Great show. | |
| Yeah, great show. | |
| As men, our value increases over time. | |
| We've put the work in, and the only thing that increases over time for modern day 304 is the amount of cats they live with. | |
| Appreciate that, Albo Ace. | |
| And then we got here, this is mainly for Sneeko and Myron, but this entire discussion is living with your woman and dealing with her in every aspect of life can be solved by following the life of the prophet. | |
| Peace be upon him. | |
| Appreciate that. | |
| And then DZJJK goes, Girl next to Myron is the epitome of not trying to look bad on life. | |
| Women have some of the weirdest fetishes, like admiring serial killers. | |
| You would be surprised if the shit women fantasize. | |
| Yeah, I do fantasize about weird shit. | |
| That does not mean that I want to do them. | |
| That's fantasizing. | |
| I can fantasize about... | |
| I mean, everybody on the table, if I ask you your darkest fantasy, it's fucked up. | |
| But that does not mean that you... | |
| If you fantasize about it, that means you want to do it. | |
| Can I say something? | |
| I read somewhere that more and more girls are into CNC, which is consensual, non-consensual, right? | |
| Grape. | |
| And so, yeah, grape, right? | |
| I got you. | |
| But does that mean that they want to go out the street and get grape? | |
| If it's the right guy, maybe. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Oh, no. | |
| It's just a fantasy. | |
| Most of the fantasy, you just want to leave your... | |
| You don't want to leave... | |
| Some women pay for that. | |
| There's a reason why girls like aggressive sex with a guy that they desire. | |
| Yeah, aggressive sex with a guy that they desire. | |
| That's the key point. | |
| When she's fantasizing, she's not fantasizing some weird guy like... | |
| She's fantasizing it's a fucking Chad Baker. | |
| Yeah, because it's a fantasy. | |
| You've already consented. | |
| It's a fantasy. | |
| Yeah, but again, that's what I'm trying to say. | |
| Guys will talk about like, oh, crazy pussy is the best, crazy girl's the best, and you feel that way until you wake up with a girl with a knife through her fucking throat, right? | |
| You fantasize about it, but there's an issue in fantasizing and actually doing it in real life. | |
| Yeah, right? | |
| No, you contradicted yourself. | |
| I think we just had a prime example. | |
| She's saying what she wants, right? | |
| But she just gave him the number, and he's saying exactly everything she's saying she don't want. | |
| Oh, shit. | |
| So that's a contradiction right there. | |
| Are you mad? | |
| Oh, don't play with me, baby. | |
| Don't fucking play with me. | |
| Are you mad? | |
| Don't play with me. | |
| It's just a question. | |
| I was making an example. | |
| I don't give up. | |
| The example is, baby, I'm not mad. | |
| You're pretty. | |
| Thank you. | |
| You too. | |
| Right. | |
| But what I'm saying is, you said you like a nice guy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Maybe he's really nice. | |
| Maybe he's nice. | |
| Maybe he's just putting your phones. | |
| Oh, my God. | |
| Don't be mad, girl. | |
| Don't fight me though. | |
| No, but I'm not, but you're becoming super aggressive. | |
| Check your men. | |
| Don't fucking check me. | |
| Check your men. | |
| So speaking of hypocrisy, you can see right here that the one she had in the ring does not work very clearly. | |
| You can see the problems that result from this. | |
| Stop. | |
| Both of you. | |
| Stop. | |
| Okay. | |
| What's going on, man? | |
| Yo, Sneeko! | |
| Don't you win, man, nigga! | |
| Alright, man. | |
| Oh, my God! | |
| Sneeko. | |
| I don't know how it happened here. | |
| It's gonna have a great night. | |
| Okay. | |
| Alright, y'all. | |
| We're gonna catch y'all. | |
| Peace. | |
| Peace. |
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