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March 6, 2023 - Fresh & Fit
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From Busting Drug Cartels To 8 Figure Entrepreneur: Paul Alex
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It's Money Monday.
We got ATM together in the house, man.
Let's talk about getting some money.
Let's get into it.
it. Let's go. Let's go.
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast, man.
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The one I did last night was Chris Watts, the guy that killed his entire family out there in Colorado.
I did a breakdown on that one.
I know, bro.
L. Chris, right?
For real.
And then I also filmed...
A terrorism case, Hezbollah, for you guys last night.
That's going to drop on Thursday.
I'm working on BMF for you guys, but the thing is that I need the documentary to get it, and I can't find it anywhere.
It's an old documentary called BMF Rise and Fall.
It's from 2012, I want to say.
If any of you guys have an HD, let me know.
I'll literally pay you for it.
That's the documentary I want to use, because I think it's better than the Starz one that's out right now, because it actually interviews the DEA agents that are involved in the investigation.
I want to get into detail with that.
And then, last thing...
Booking stores right now.
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Mo had to resubmit something, but we're good.
We're going to hopefully get it approved within the next 10 days, and when it comes out, I'll let y'all know.
But anyway, without further ado...
We've got three special guests in the house.
ATM together.
ATM together.
I want y'all to introduce yourselves because we know who you guys are.
You guys have been on the show before, but they might not know.
Turn it to y'all.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Hey, thanks for having me, guys.
Man, it feels good to be back in Miami, dude.
It's like 80 degrees over here.
We just came back from San Diego.
San Diego right now, it's like raining and shit.
My dog almost flew off the terrace the other day.
Whoa!
Crazy ass shit.
But anyways, guys, my name is Paul Alex.
I'm founder of ATMtogether.com.
You guys probably recognize me from, what was it, like a couple months ago, like I think in November or whatever?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, dude.
Basically, a narcotics detective to an eight-figure entrepreneur.
And hey, your network is your net worth, guys.
So I had to bring the crew down.
Brought one of my consultants from ATM together.
And then I actually brought my COO, Gedim Jonas, from ATM together.
So they're going to break it down.
A couple things that we got for you guys.
But it's going to be a good show.
Nice.
Sir, yes sir.
Hey guys, I'm Yonah, COO of ATMTogether.com.
Didn't always start that way.
I was actually in the military, getting into that a little bit, and law enforcement.
Met Paul in law enforcement.
Competition, man.
We were trying to get each other fired at the vet.
But hey, check this out.
We're here.
Your network equals your net worth, just like he's talking about.
And lo and behold, we're in Miami.
Let's get them.
And then we got Mike.
We got Mike.
So funny story with Mike.
So Mike, he actually comes from the fitness world.
I mean, you can see the dude's like 6'3", 260 pounds.
I mean, we met in my apartment building that I live in San Diego.
And the dude was just like, man, you got like a good aura.
You're like, you're always happy and shit.
And I was just like, what are you talking about, bro?
I'm fucking tired.
I just worked 18 hours and shit on the grind, you know?
And the dude was like...
I don't know, man.
You just don't come off cocky or anything.
You're a real humble dude and you're hella respectful.
I was like, man, thanks.
I appreciate that, man.
A lot of people think about that, but hey, it is what it is.
So anyway, we end up talking.
He's just like, man, I've been in this fitness world for so long.
And he's just like, dude, I'm looking for other avenues.
He's like, what do you do for a living?
And I was just like, dude, I was actually a cop.
I was a detective for like five out of the seven years I was in law enforcement.
And Mike was just like, dude, that's freaking crazy.
So what do you do now?
I was just like, well, I do assortment of things, right?
I run my own ATM business.
Now I got into the Bitcoin ATM business.
And I'm just going down the line of all the different ventures that I'm getting into.
And he's just like, dude, that's amazing.
He's just like, so how can I work for you?
And I was just like, what do you mean work for me?
This ain't no Wolf of Wall Street shit, bro.
Like, what are you talking about?
He's just like, nah.
Like, bro, I see your car.
I see you drive that McLaren.
There ain't nobody else driving that McLaren.
So it's just like, what do you do for a living?
And the funny story is his McLaren was parked on the third floor.
And then maybe six months later, it became parked on the first floor.
And that's like the real G's.
I was like, that guy's doing something right.
But beforehand, he drove Panamera, so you could just see the growth because we lived together for at least a year.
But in Elevator, man, when you step in and the guy was pouring vibes, I was like, man, Exactly what I said.
You must be successful.
That's it.
And he told me, read this book.
And he gave me a digital millionaire book, and that's it.
Yeah, that's actually the book that I read.
What was the name of the book?
Digital Millionaire?
Digital Millionaire by Dan Henry.
Yeah, man.
But you know what I like, though?
You saw something in him.
I said, you know what?
How about myself saying, let me ask him a question.
That one question led to you being a part of the team, which is amazing, bro.
No, that's what it is, man.
Part of the team, guys, was the value because every human being carries the X amount of energy and our frequency should match.
I'm an expert in my field in fitness industry.
I'm prior combat medic, 12 years honorable service with Marine Corps and Navy.
And then also I worked in level two trauma.
I'm CT and x-ray tech registered.
Then during the little bug, I got fired.
And I was like, screw that.
I'm never going to go back to the corporate healthcare.
I'm like, screw that.
And I started with my online coaching business because I'm a competitive bodybuilder and I'm very good and versed in endocrinology and like functional health.
So when we do bodybuilding and we do it safely.
And then I was like, man, what can I, what value can I bring to pole?
Because I felt like, you know, if I, if I get on the team, so I was like, Hey, You teach me how to do what you do, and I'll turn you into a chat.
And he did, bro.
And if you guys look at that episode, I dropped 20 pounds.
I dropped 20 pounds.
Man, I was getting fat and shit.
But hey, that's what happens when you go into entrepreneurship, man.
You own the fucking grind and shit.
It's just like we were talking before the show started.
You guys were like, man, we got to do We got to go to Dubai.
We got to go to Vegas and all this shit.
Bro, we understand.
This man, he got anxiety and shit now.
He cool, calm, collected before entrepreneurship.
But as soon as he became CEO, I was just like, here is all my stress.
It's on his freaking shoulders now, bro.
It was one of those things, right?
Where in law enforcement, military leadership, I mean, I was at a forced reconnaissance unit, right?
That's special operations in the military.
I thought that was hard.
Then I was at law enforcement, sergeant of police in one of the most dangerous cities, and then you get into entrepreneurship.
In the Bay Area, so the audience kind of...
Oh yeah, in the Bay Area, right?
I won't say the name of the city, but it was a very dangerous city on that.
A lot of documentaries, a lot of things going on with that.
But I was a sergeant of police over there, and I thought that was hard, right?
Where you're talking about shootings, robberies, murders, triple homicides, all that stuff, right?
Running into buildings with gunshots.
I thought that was crazy.
And then you get into entrepreneurship, like, oh, that's a real hustle.
That's a real struggle, right?
Yeah, it's a grind, man, and shit.
Like, I always tell people, it's just like, yeah, I used to stress back then, I mean, going after cartel members and all this shit, yeah, like, seeing, like, you know, 60 pounds of meth, fucking assault rifles, almost getting killed and shit, seeing one of my boys pass out off of fentanyl and all that.
But man, entrepreneurship is just a different game because now you don't got that safety net.
And that's what a lot of people don't realize.
They think that they see you online and you're probably in a nice car or whatever, but they don't know the struggle that it took to actually get there.
You get what I'm saying?
So it took a lot of heartache.
Actually, like, you know, I'm not the youngest dude.
I'm 35.
So this is like my third career, bro.
I was in sales for like seven years, law enforcement for seven years, and then finally got into entrepreneurship.
And I've been a full-time entrepreneur for the past, it's almost four years now.
So it's amazing, dude.
Yeah, the uncertainty is kind of what it is, and that's such a big difference from, you know, coming from law enforcement or working for the government or whatever, because you know every two weeks that check is coming, right?
Versus being an entrepreneur, it's a little bit sporadic in the beginning, so it's not as consistent.
So, can you tell us a little bit about, because you were here last time on the last show.
I was, yeah.
And, you know, you guys made fun of each other quite a bit.
But we didn't really get to hear your background.
So you said earlier that you were in the military.
What branch?
Yeah, so I was in the Marine Corps.
I actually joined three days after I turned 18.
Because I was in high school, man.
I'm not going to lie.
I didn't know what I was going to do.
My best friend got popped by the DAA. I was hanging around the wrong people.
Oh, he was selling drugs?
Allegedly.
- You know, you don't have to play, right? - I'm just saying, this is how it starts.
- Be cool.
- This is how it starts, man.
- Be careful, be careful. - That's not going to work.
- Mario's like, "Hey, we got 'em, bro." - Yeah.
- Cold red, cold red. - So I didn't know what I wanted to do.
I was just in limbo.
I was like, no, I don't want to go to college.
There's only dead-end jobs.
Back then, I mean, the best job you can get is like $8 an hour, right?
Three days after I turned 18, I'm like, you know what?
I want to join the military, right?
I literally ran into a recruiter in the mall, right?
I'm just hanging out.
I'm parking lot pimping, right?
You know how it is back in the day, right?
I'm trying to pimp on some girls at the actual mall, drinking some ice cream.
First male role model I ever meet, Marine Corps recruiter.
He's like, hey, man, I'm going to take care of you.
I didn't know what that meant at the time, right?
Years later, in the Marine Corps, serving in actual some legit units.
And after that, still didn't know what I wanted to do.
Dead-end jobs.
What year did you get out?
So I got out in 2018, but I stayed in the reserves for a few years.
When did you go in?
2010.
Okay.
Yeah.
So a little while, a few years inside the military, right?
So joining the Marine Corps, man, going to boot camp, I didn't know at the time, but I was made for that, right?
I just love fitness.
I love the structure.
I love all that good stuff, right?
The nine to five, it was kind of a nine to five, but it's the military, right?
Right.
So what I didn't realize was there's some racist ass motherfuckers in there, man.
What's your background?
So I'm East African, a retreat, right?
Small community, small little country in East Africa, right?
Yeah.
Born and raised in the Bay Area, so I'm used to diversity, right?
Until I go into boot camp and I got some people from Arkansas, right?
And it's the first time I've seen a black guy.
Who are you, boy?
What the hell are you?
And they're going to say that you and Myron are not black.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, man.
Yeah.
Dude, that's crazy to me, bro.
How can you judge somebody by the way they're like, hey, look at shit.
You know how many times I get that I'm Asian?
I'm not fucking Asian.
No, bro.
See what I mean?
I'm Peruvian and Mexican.
I know, right?
You ain't got shit on me.
No, but like, I'm serious, man.
When I roll up and I start speaking Spanish and shit, people are like, And, you know, like back in the day, especially in sales, you know, they'll talk shit.
They'll be like, you know, I'll be like, yeah, but it's crazy, bro.
So military, right?
And I just didn't know what I want to do.
Got some dead end jobs.
I was in a bad relationship, right?
And this, see, you guys already know, this is how I found out about TRP, right?
So right off the bat, dating a chick, had a kid.
I'm thinking she's cheating on me.
That was dark blue pill.
It was a bad time in my life.
Was it your kid or her kid?
It was her kid.
So it was one of those things, right?
So I was in that bad relationship.
We move in together, man.
Almost one of the biggest mistakes of my life.
She's trying to lock it down.
You know how it goes, guys.
It's a typical story.
I was there, man.
I was there.
This is years ago, right?
And I didn't know any better.
My gut was telling me something different.
You know how it is.
But at the time, I'm like, hey, I don't know any better.
I'm supporting someone's kid.
I'm losing money.
I'm over $50,000 in debt.
Holy shit.
End up losing.
And this is not any debt.
It's credit card debt, right?
You know how that is.
We're the good guys.
That's where the good guys.
They're right here.
So you learn, right?
So you learn very quickly.
So my buddy, forced reconnaissance scout sniper, is like, hey dude, you gotta make a change.
Saved my life.
He saved my life.
He introduced me to some TRP books.
Out of nowhere, I'm reading this.
I'm like, man, this makes sense.
I think that's how you pronounce his name.
I didn't know at the time, but he was brand new at the time.
He only had some online web articles, right?
And then Good Looking Loser and a few other things, right?
That's OG stuff right there.
This is years ago, right?
What year was this around?
This is about 2012, right?
What was that, like 11 years ago?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Time flies.
Yeah, so the parking lot, we're having the conversation, right?
We're in the military.
There's three of us, right?
Two of us are beta, one of them's alpha, right?
He's telling both of us, we go two different routes.
Me, here I am today.
The other guy, he's wearing anime clothes and he's acting all the time with long hair, right?
Stupid!
So, it's bad, right?
I end up losing my crib.
I actually end up losing my crib.
And I actually end up in the streets, right?
Living for weeks at a time.
Did she, like, kick you out?
Like, how'd you, like...
Yeah, I couldn't afford rent.
I was like, I can only do so many cash advances on the credit card.
I had no cash.
So, I literally had no cash to pay for rent.
Where'd she go when you guys got evicted?
Man, she went back to her parents' house, right?
And I already broke it off with my parents and my family because of her, right?
So, I got no support system.
Wow.
And you're in the Bay Area, you know how much rent is, right?
It's expensive, so life's tough for me at the time, right?
That's the dark blue pill, my friend.
She was probably smashing someone else, right?
Let's keep it real.
It is what it is.
It is what it is, right?
Hey, the chat always there, bro.
So I randomly run into a cop, right?
In a good way, guys.
In a good way, right?
Because I actively avoided the police.
Spoke to him, a brother.
And at the end of the day, I'm speaking to him, and I found out you only need a high school degree to actually become a cop in California.
Blew my mind.
So right off the bat, I started applying to as many police agencies as I can.
Yeah.
20, 30, 40.
And at the time, I didn't realize when you do a shotgun application like that, you can't do that.
It actually looks really bad.
It's like chicks, right?
Imagine you're trying to hit on a lot of chicks in front of them and they're all shutting you down.
The rest of the chicks don't want you anymore.
At least you were on your purpose, bro.
Exactly.
Yeah, you were on your purpose.
So like, yeah, that's what Rolo's book is all about, rational.
People think it's about women.
No, it puts you focused on purpose.
And that's why he's here right now in the middle.
Yeah, so I ended up getting denied by all these departments.
Like, hey, sorry, you're just not the right fit.
I already knew what it was, right?
It's in Southern California, certain agencies.
That's just what it is, right?
Get hired at a department.
Here's the thing.
Almost lose my job with her.
Because we get back together.
So we're arguing.
So you get the job.
You make it through the police academy.
What year is this now?
I don't make it through the police academy because of her.
I almost lose my job.
That's your friend, man.
What year is this now?
This is end of 2013 beginning 2014.
So you get hired, just so the audience knows, because they're probably confused, like, what do you mean you lost your job at Police Academy?
So guys, how it goes is, when you get hired, you go through the process, you go through an interview, you go through a polygraph test, a background check, etc.
Once all that clears, then they send you to the police academy.
Then most police academies are somewhere between...
Four or six months.
And then you're saying, and then you get tenderly hired under probation.
Exactly.
Probationary officer.
So you didn't make it through the academy.
Man, I'm five months in, but I can't even stay awake because every single day I get home, it's an argument.
Oh, so it wasn't a living academy.
It wasn't a living academy.
Okay, so you went in, you reported there every day, and then came back.
Exactly.
So I'm paying all the bills, right?
I'm driving home every single day.
I'm exhausted.
You know how the academy is.
You're spending 14 hours.
I'm in traffic, right?
I get home.
Why'd you take so long?
Toxical.
And then I'm worried about taking a kid to school the next morning.
I'm like, oh, man.
And it's not your kid.
No, what the hell?
It's DreamKillers, bro.
No, he's the good guy.
This is why living academies are almost always better than going back and forth.
Because when I went with the feds, it was a living academy.
So you don't have to worry about that shit.
But that's tough, dude, when you're going back and forth.
He's paying all the bills.
What is she?
A dream killer, bro.
Legit.
And not only that, police academies are almost always paramilitary, which means you've got to walk in formation, you've got to dress a certain way, etc.
It's all at attention, so it's very tough.
So you're doing that all day, just to paint a picture for the audience, because it's not like it's an easy police academy.
And then you're going in and dealing with the family stuff at home as well, so you're getting stressed from both ends.
Man, I got no family support, right?
Because, I mean, they played it cool for backgrounds.
They let me get hired, right?
But, man, like, my family doesn't want to talk to me, right?
I don't want to talk to them because we're at risk with the relationship.
I'm with this chick that is not working out.
I'm paying all the bills.
I'm paying for child care.
I'm paying for all this stuff, right?
You're paying for child care?
Man, it was bad.
It was a bad time.
Stupid!
It was bad, man.
And I've only talked about this in the past, right?
So lo and behold, I actually failed the academy.
I failed the test, man.
I'm exhausted.
I'm literally falling asleep in the academy every day.
That's your main hustle, right?
What test did you fail?
Was it shooting?
No, it was just some dumb test.
It was just some written test.
That's it.
So I'm just like, okay, well, here I go.
I lost my job.
I don't know.
This is the best paying gig I had.
This is my actual opportunity to change my life.
And I just wasted it, right?
So you're just sitting there waiting to talk to, you know, the commanders and all that while they fire you.
They give me a second chance.
They're like, hey, you know what?
We talked to your friend.
We know about what's going on at your house, right?
This is what you got to do.
You got to break it off with her.
You gotta actually get a new household.
Man, it's wild.
I actually move in with my buddy.
No, that's leadership because, I mean, he recognized that, like, yo, you're dating a chaos.
It's like ADHD times squared.
100%.
Yeah, so you can't focus.
How can you pass a test?
How can you be focused on the business?
Like, man is, like, that's it.
It's Dan.
100%.
Good leadership.
Yeah.
So I am so appreciative.
I work my ass off at Second Academy.
Right?
Graduate, top of my class.
And I'm like, I'm so appreciative for this opportunity.
Did you have to start from the beginning?
Or did they recycle you from where you left?
Start from the beginning.
Fuck.
Six months again, right?
You got the hell week or whatever they call it, where they're trying to haze you, all that good stuff.
I don't care.
Like, this is the best paying job I'm going to get.
She's not with the chick.
Like, $30 an hour.
I'm living close to the academy.
I'm working.
I'm working my ass off.
Finally getting the job.
I start working 100 hours a week.
The day after FTO, I am so appreciative because it's unlimited overtime.
How long did you go through the FTO process for?
Three months?
Six months?
It's four months.
So it's four months total.
For the audience, that stands for field training officer.
That means he had to ride along with a guy who was a field training officer basically through his probationary period.
And then after that, they let you go on your own, I'm assuming?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So they let you go on your own.
You're on probation for about like nine months.
You can get fired for anything.
Right.
So they tell you, just lay low.
Just be cool.
Right.
Not me.
I was like, I'm trying to make as much money as I can.
So I end up actually working my ass off for the next few years.
I'm talking every single day.
I am literally sleeping at the job.
I'm like, I'm going to save up as much as I can because I don't know how long this is going to last.
I don't know how long this opportunity is going to last, right?
So you're going to shootings, you're going to robberies, you're like, whatever, because I'm getting paid.
This is the most I'm ever going to get paid.
I literally have no degree.
I have no other options.
This is the most money I'll ever make in my life.
How much money you was making then?
So I was actually making six figures at the time, right?
Low six figures.
But to me at the time, I'm like, man, that's a lot of money, right?
And this is what, 2015 now at this point, probably?
Yeah, 2015.
And you're single, right?
I'm single, no expenses.
So I literally save every single dollar and I start paying off my debt.
I'm like, I just need to pay everything off, right?
So I go to zero.
That was the most proud moment of my life.
After four months, I paid off all my debt and I was at zero net worth.
Notice, right?
That time period you had before.
You couldn't even pay your bills all the way because you were taking care of what?
Someone else's kid.
Guys, that's a very important point because most guys that come into this type of life setup, they're like, you know what?
I can handle it.
But it's opportunity cost because that money is going towards a negative benefit.
So, shout out to you for overcoming that, man.
That's huge.
Yeah, and it was one of those things.
People always say, you know, TRP this, TRP that.
It saved my life.
That literally saved my life because imagine, I had a pregnancy scare with that.
Second baby daddy.
I had a pregnancy scare and to this day, I'm like, I'm like, thanking God.
I'm like, I don't know if God was looking out for me, vibrations or whatever.
What was the awakening moment?
What was the awakening moment?
Was it when your superiors brought you in and gave you that second chance that you just woke up and said, I'm taking a red pill now.
That's it.
Fuck this chick.
She's gone.
Exactly.
I was reading the books and it was kind of like I understood the concepts.
Something wasn't jiving.
You have to take that step.
That's literally what Morpheus says.
You take one of these pills.
I just wasn't committed to one of them.
I just said, I'll read it.
In theory, it's all good until I almost lost my job.
That's what woke you up.
Right.
Woke me up.
Totally.
I said, hey, do I really want to go back to where I was?
Yeah.
I literally have a house now.
I don't want to sleep in my car.
I don't want to have to use baby wipes like I was in the field in the Marine Corps, right?
Like, this makes no sense to me.
How long you lived in a car, man?
It was actually about two months.
Oh, shit.
So, two months.
And it was...
I mean, you got to do what you got to do.
Just survive at the end of the day.
Of course.
I'm not embarrassed about it.
No, no, no.
You got to hustle.
You got to hustle.
I can relate, man, to your story a lot, man.
Wow.
In some ways.
Not every way.
He also dated a single mom, too.
So he knows that pain.
Married her, bro.
Oh, really?
Stupid!
And at the end of the day, you have to have your learning pains.
You have to have your learning pains.
And to this day, when I'm rolling around in the G-Wagon, I'm like, hey, guys, it wasn't always like this, right?
You worked your ass off to get there, right?
So fast forward a few years, I'm working my ass off.
I'm trying to go to all these assignments.
I'm running into Paul.
Where did y'all meet?
What year?
So it was like at least...
A year and a half in.
We'd run into each other.
Like 2016-ish?
Yeah.
So we'd run into each other because this is how it works in law enforcement, right?
So don't get it twisted that all cops work hard.
I'm here to break the myth right now.
Nope.
It's about 1% do 99% of the work.
That's facts.
That's 1,000% facts.
Whether it's state, federal, etc.
Most law enforcement officers are lazy as fuck, want to fly under the radar, collect their check, not do anything else.
That's 100% true.
I gotta verify, though.
What about the donuts?
The donuts are good.
No.
That's a real thing?
Okay, cool.
That's very true, bro.
Especially people think at the federal level it changes.
Hell no.
Most special agents are lazy as fuck.
There's five top guys typically in any field office that do everything.
Exactly.
And the 1% literally is the reputation when you want to go to a department like, yeah, I heard they work hard.
No, that's 1%.
The 99%, they're chilling.
They're pulling people over for nonsense.
It's all that other stuff.
I wanted to focus on crimes, people killing each other.
Right?
So, with that being said, I started applying for all these special assignments, right?
But here's the thing.
People kept telling me, right, slow down, slow down.
All the brokies, all the normies, they kept saying, hey, slow down.
It's a marathon out of race.
I'm like, no, it's not.
You guys don't know where I came from.
This is an actual race every single day for me.
I need to accomplish everything as of yesterday, right?
So, with that being said, I apply for all these special assignments.
And you know how it is.
The fucking haterade.
Of course.
It's true.
Straight up.
I struck the hate array, right?
The glass was full.
So I literally try out for canine, right?
Test number one, I get a dog.
I get an actual dog.
I'm running them.
Like, nope, you can't have that, right?
So, okay, cool.
Whatever.
I try to go for the mounting unit.
Try to ride some horses.
Nope.
You can't do that, right?
I try to go for special investigations.
Can't do that.
I try to go for an actual crime team.
Can't do that.
And keep in mind, I'm like top performer at the department.
But I was just the haterade.
What the fuck?
They wouldn't give it to you?
They wouldn't.
So I thought, I was like, man, this gotta be some racism, right?
But the leaders were my peoples, right?
So what it was, was I was working so hard, I would get in trouble, right?
You run after somebody with a gun, the guy makes a complaint against you, they'll say, hey, you're getting too many complaints.
I'm like, but the guy had a gun, what are you doing?
He told me I cursed at him, so what, right?
So, with that being said, I try everything.
So, Paul's in the Narcotics Task Force, right?
He's telling me, hey man, you gotta come over.
I wasn't with the drug stuff, right?
It wasn't interesting to me.
I actually went for the ATF Task Force, right?
So, in case you guys don't know, that's the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, ATF. Yeah, so the ATF, right?
I go for that task force.
I actually test number one.
I meet the special agent in charge of the entire region.
Nice.
Do a meet and greet.
He's like, hey, man, I like you, right?
I fill out the federal paperwork.
They're going to deputize me and all that good stuff.
I get a call while I'm at training in San Diego because I'm in the Bay Area.
I'm at training.
I'm like, hey, man, apologize, right?
Everyone vouchs for you, but so-and-so, this captain and this commander says, hey, no, go.
What the fuck?
Wow.
So I'm in shock.
I'm in shambles, right?
For what reason?
For no reason.
Doesn't like me.
That's it.
Doesn't like me.
Doesn't like my personality.
Super political, bro.
That's just how it is.
It's politics and law enforcement.
I mean, military is the same, bro.
It's the same thing.
But law enforcement, it is a bunch of, no offense, some betas.
And I'll tell you this, too, because I can tell you from the federal side, anytime you wanted a guy from another agency to become a task force officer, basically for the audience out there, they're probably wondering, what is this?
You could get a guy that works for a local police department or a local agency and you deputize them and then they get federal authority.
And the beauty of that when you have a task force officer is they're able to do their state duties while simultaneously having federal authority.
So the reason why this is so important is that you can use local resources to go ahead and get the guy.
guy, let's say you got some information that someone's involved in some type of crime and you know that they're going to drive a vehicle at such and such time.
Well, you can hit up your TFO, task force officer from the local agency.
He could go ahead and get a marked unit to stop that guy.
And then that guy won't know that the feds are actually looking at him, et cetera.
Then they could use local databases.
They can arrest them on state charges so that you can come in as the feds later on.
So there's so many different benefits to having a task force officer.
And nine out of 10 times when you can't get a guy from a local agency, they give the same Oh, we can't give any manpower.
But in this case, they were just hating.
They didn't want you to get on because they know once they lose you over there, they're never going to see you because you're going to always be with ATF. You're going to report over there and everything, and they probably just were jealous.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
So I just did everything on patrol.
I actually got on wiretaps.
I got on all that good stuff.
Right.
And so I was doing the most on patrol.
I was like, man, I can't get anything to stick for me.
And it's a lesson in entrepreneurship also.
Right.
You're going to fail a few times before you succeed.
Never give up.
Right.
So at this point, I'm That's so fucked up, dude.
I absolutely hate life at this point.
I'm like, I hate this place.
I'm going to quit.
But in my head, I'm like, you know what?
This changed my life.
This gave me the opportunity I'm at right now.
Luckily, I made a lot of investments at the time.
This is back in actually 2016.
I invested in crypto, right?
Back when Bitcoin was like 600 bucks.
I was like, what the hell is this thing called?
Bitcoin, right?
But my buddy told me about it.
I'm like, you know what?
This makes sense.
I dropped some money.
I worked a lot of overtime.
All that money went into actual crypto.
Nice.
Invested in real estate with some friends.
Invested actually into some ATMs also.
Nice.
I was a passive investor because you couldn't have a second job at work, so I didn't want to tell them.
So I was like, hey, put everything in your name.
You know how it is.
Hey, it's too late.
You guys can't get me now, right?
Yeah.
So with that being said, right, these start kicking off on the side.
So I'm like, you know what?
Fuck it.
I don't care.
So to piss off commands, I applied to be a sergeant.
At the minimum required, five years.
Back then, you had to do 10 years before you'd be a sergeant just to get the respect.
I literally did that much work in five years because I worked every single day.
So I applied to be a sergeant because I'm like, hey, you know what?
The union has to get involved.
They got my back, right?
There's these regulations.
They can't fuck me over.
I ended up testing number one out of 30 something people.
Wow.
Piss off command.
They're like, we don't know what to do.
Like, how do we skip this guy?
They end up skipping me for promotion.
Damn.
No reason whatsoever.
And I hear on the back end, because I actually got a mentor, which is rule number two, always get a mentor.
Facts, facts.
Barbados, right?
The Barbados, man.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, man.
When Fresh is like, oh, from Barbados.
Hey, man.
That's what I'm talking about.
He always used to say there's Barbados and there's the rest of the Koreans.
So with that being said, right, got a mentor.
He tells me, hey, man, you know, at the end of the day, I spoke to command because he was connected.
As I spoke to command, they want to test you.
They want to see how you're going to respond to this.
I was like, what kind of bullshit is this, right?
So if I want to quit at this point, he's like, dude, just keep your chin up.
It's all good, man.
So I get promoted the second round.
Best thing that ever happened to me, right?
So at this point, I'm career tracked.
I'm thinking, hey, you know what?
Life's good.
I'm promoted.
I'm a young sergeant.
I'm a minority in this minority city.
I'm made, right?
Youngest sergeant, still on probation, because you have a year until you're actually on probation.
How old are you at this point?
I am 29 at this point.
Oh, they're mad.
They're definitely mad.
Hey, and I was the youngest.
Young guy coming up?
For the audience, real quick, a sergeant typically is going to manage probably, what, six or seven patrol guys on a shift?
So, yeah.
So, he'll be the main guy on a shift, and everyone that's doing patrol or whatever, if they need anything done or they need a supervisor, he's the main guy that's running it.
So, I can see why they would be mad, right?
Especially a big police department like that.
You're probably managing 10 units at that point, right?
Or more, a shift.
When I promote.
Bro, and I remember when he got promoted, man, there was tons of motherfuckers that were hating on him.
Yeah.
We're talking about OGs that were in the department for like 25 years, and they're like, this motherfucker's only been five years, and he hit the minimum, and he think he could be a sergeant?
Yeah.
The fuck?
That's how it is.
I was like, why the fuck are you hating?
Dude, that's how it is.
Just mind your business.
It's crazy in law enforcement how they get mad.
And you're a minority, and you're in a big PE, and you're a hit sergeant in five years.
Yeah, I already know.
They're fucking pissed.
And on top of that, you would put in for all these other details and didn't get them.
So then the fact that you get that, That's something that's the most sought after.
But that person, they would have quit by now, but you didn't quit.
I didn't quit.
And here's the thing.
This is the craziest thing.
When I got promoted, there was a new chief, a brother.
And I thought this dude hated me.
So when I get promoted, let me tell you, man, this guy comes up.
He's like, get him.
What's up, man?
And we're boys.
And I'm like, hey, man, be cool.
I don't want them thinking I'm cool with you, right?
So with this, he's like, hey, man, check this out, man.
The reason why I love you so much, man.
And I couldn't take this guy seriously.
I didn't know if he was being serious.
He's like, because every time we disciplined you, You always showed up, you kept your chin up, and you smiled, and you did things for the right reason.
Marine, that's the Marine.
Once a Marine, always a Marine.
Except for five, for all my military veterans watchmen now, right?
That's how it is.
And Docs know better.
I'm a Fleet Marine Force Corpsman, so Marines don't have their doctors, so I'm the Doc.
Yep, yep.
Yeah, no.
So I get promoted, right, with this.
And he tells me that.
So it changes my life at this point.
I was like, all right, you know what?
I'm never going to let anything take me down anymore.
Because it blew my mind.
I just, I didn't see that was going on behind the scenes.
I was just in my own head.
I was in my own world.
I was being selfish and all that, right?
So with that being said, I get promoted and they put me in the oldest squad.
OGs, right?
20 year vets.
Brand new supervisor, 29 years old.
They got kids my age, right?
So you know how it is.
They're like, oh yeah, that's what we're doing now, huh?
So, lo and behold, I didn't know this would be one of the things that changed my life.
So, one of the officers in there was very close friends with me.
So, keep in mind, it's a morning shift.
Coincidentally, two other sergeants called out sick.
Two out of the other four sergeants.
So, I'm the only one in charge of half the city that has, I mean, a million people in it.
Brand new sergeant, like, I don't know what I'm doing.
So I hear the fateful words.
He actually gets shot that day.
So on that day, we're literally, we're smiling, we're joking.
I'm having my team brief with them.
I cut them loose to get their patrol cars and all that.
I walk to my office.
It's like 10 minutes into the shift at 6 a.m.
And I hear the word shots fired, shots fired up and shot.
Right?
And I'm just in shock, right?
I jump out my seat.
I start running.
It's the one day I don't have my car with me, right?
So I go to the area to get my car keys.
And you know how it is in law enforcement or the military or even any job, right?
People always play pranks.
So they change the language on the key card thing.
So it's in Chinese.
So I'm over here trying to get a car because this dude's like, hey man, this guy's got a gun.
He's running, right?
And they end up shooting the guy back.
So, I get the car, right?
I'm smashed and I'm running red lights 100 miles an hour, right?
I get there as soon as I can because my boy's down, right?
So, he ends up getting hit.
The guy gets shot back.
They don't realize they shoot him.
They don't realize they dropped the gun.
So, the guy starts fleeing on foot.
Cops are pulling up.
They see this and he's just fleeing past them, right?
And they don't shoot him.
So, it's a foot pursuit or they're running after him for blocks.
On this city.
Keep in mind, I am the only supervisor.
And this is after a lot of unrest.
There was a lot of riots going on.
George Floyd just happened.
All that good stuff.
Oh, this is 2020.
Oh, yeah.
That changes things a lot.
That changes things a lot.
You know how it is, right?
There were riots.
We went through it.
They were breaking into everything, right?
So, with that being said, I'm over here like, I gotta take control of this scene.
So they got cops running after him, right?
And then all of a sudden I hear like, hey, this guy, he still has the gun in his hand.
He's still running.
So there's this countdown going in my head.
I'm like, there's only so much time before they shoot this guy, right?
And I'm thinking, all right, I'm about to be in federal court.
Like, I got to say, I love you and my family because it's just about to go down, right?
And I'm thinking like everything that's going on on CNN, Fox, you know how it goes.
Yeah, it was very anti-police.
100%.
And I'm in charge of 30-something police officers at this time.
Brand new sergeant on probation.
You're the first line supervisor on it.
You're going to be the first one that they interview after.
Hey, why did your officers do this?
Blah, blah, blah.
100%.
And lo and behold, the guy ambushed them.
They pull up.
It was a call with the guy with the gun.
He ends up just waiting there.
They see him.
He starts unloading on them.
Probably 15 rounds.
Starts shooting at him.
Strikes my officer.
So I pulled up quick on scene.
And lo and behold, I see the guy.
So I cut him off.
I see the guy coming towards us, right?
And all these police cars are coming from all over the city because when an officer says he's shot, the whole city starts responding and all the different agencies start coming, right?
So I see the guy and I see he has a knife in his hand.
And I'm like, where's the gun?
And the guy's just staring at me, right?
So I'm over here, pointing my gun at him, and I'm like, man, I'm gonna have to smoke this dude, right?
And I don't want to.
It's a tall black male, right, in his 50s, so I'm like, I already know how the headlines, right?
Police shoot black man.
That's just how it is, right?
It's politics.
It's the Bay Area.
So with that, the guy's coming, he's like, you guys are gonna have to kill me.
I'm like, oh no, suicide by cop.
So in my head, I'm like, oh man, what can we do to not shoot this guy?
Because we're about to be in federal court.
The dude ran four city blocks and wasn't shot.
And then if a sergeant pulls up, the first one on scene and shoots him, prior military, he's like, man, the military guy had PTSD. That's why I got him.
So the guy has a knife.
So I'm yelling at my guys to get their beanbag shotgun out.
I'm like, hey guys, shoot this guy with his beanbags because those are less lethal rounds.
Right?
The guy's on FTO. The kid is on FTO, the only one in the city with a shotgun, of course.
He's struggling.
He's stressing.
The guy's coming at him with a knife.
I'm like, please, Lord, please.
I'm praying.
So I'm talking about, and this guy's like, kill me, kill me, kill me.
And finally, I don't know, the grace of God is looking out first or something.
Loads that beanbag round in there.
The guy's within, like, from here to the camera, like five feet away.
Hits him with the beanbag.
Finally.
The guy thinks he's being shot at.
So he's like, oh crap, they're actually shooting at me.
So he starts running.
So he starts running and we're chasing him.
Still got a knife.
He's running at civilians.
Civilians are running everywhere.
It's like Grand Theft Auto.
I'm like, what is going on right now?
This is surreal.
So finally.
It's a movie.
Oh man.
And they're running after him, shooting with beanbag rounds.
And I'm waiting for the canine.
Like, we're just, I'm like, this is all chaos.
That's crazy, bro.
Just chaos, right?
And lo and behold, we don't know the guy's shot right now, right?
But he's high on something.
We think he was actually on fentanyl right now, right?
So he's high.
He actually got hit by the officers.
So check this out.
I'm chasing him in my car.
I'm like, man, I can't hit him.
I can't run him over.
I'm like, please, man, please put the knife down.
Please.
I just want to arrest you, man.
I'm begging the guy, man.
So, the guy finally runs, and so there's some civilians that are actually recording on their phones, right?
They're actually coming out their apartment complex, and they're like this, through the glass door.
He turns towards them like an actual zombie, and the guy runs straight towards them with a knife, and they're like, oh shit!
This dude's about to stab us.
There's some brothers also.
They see us.
They see cops running after this guy, yelling at him, and they see him running at them.
They're like, oh, it's time for us to beat beat.
They start running the other way.
They leave the apartment door open.
He goes in the apartment complex.
High rise.
Here we go.
Barricaded subject.
Here we go.
Wildness.
So he gets in the lobby, right?
Luckily, it's in the morning because it's the actual, it's a veterans, like low-income housing apartment complex, right?
All military veterans.
So he goes in the lobby.
He's going left, right, left, right.
Everything's locked up because it's a government building also.
So with that being said, he actually barricades himself in there.
Yeah.
So we set it up, you know, barricaded suspect.
We're stacked up.
I'm talking like 30 cops, right?
Every cop in the city has come.
I'm running the entire scene.
And real quick for the audience so they know, because we're talking in law enforcement jargon.
They might not know what's going on.
As soon as the subject goes into a situation, guys, where it goes into a building, whatever, it becomes a barricaded subject.
They have to pretty much stop the pursuit, call SWAT, and then strategize entering and taking them from there.
It changes everything up.
So you were basically the on-scene commander at that point?
Exactly.
To get the SWAT team on point.
Exactly.
News, helicopters coming.
It is wildness, right?
I'm like, this is like a movie, right?
So we're negotiating.
News are there and you got a crisis negotiator there, etc.
Yeah, everything.
So it's still early in the morning, so we don't have a lot of these people, right?
All we have is patrol.
That's all we got, right?
So the news helicopter, I can hear.
It's just chaos, right?
The county or state or anybody come help you or feds or it was just y'all?
There were some feds.
There were some VA police or Veterans Affairs police.
Oh, yeah, because it's their property.
Yeah, so they showed up with some shields and stuff like, hey, thanks, man.
What's the shield going to do?
Is he still bleeding this whole time?
Yeah, so no, we don't see the blood because he actually got shot in the body, right?
In the back, and he's wearing a trench coat, which makes this like a movie, right?
So you got this guy with a trench coat.
We don't know if he has a gun.
He has a knife.
He threatened suicide by cop, and he's barricaded now, right?
One of the worst situations.
Oh, chaos.
And I'm like, this can't get any worse.
Then the guy starts stabbing himself in the neck.
What the?
And I'm like, you can't make this up.
And we're sitting there like, hey, did you just do that?
Everyone looks at each other and is like, the guy's slicing himself in the neck.
I'm like, God, please don't kill yourself because then they're going to say we killed you.
So it's superficial at that point.
We get lucky.
Lo and behold, we talk the guy down.
He surrenders in custody.
Right?
So great news release.
They're like, hey man, you're going to get promoted again.
You did a phenomenal job.
You took charge of the city and all that.
So I'm in a position where I'm like, you know what?
I'm career tracked.
I'm set.
Everything's going to be good to go.
So most people would get complacent with that.
But I just thought in myself, I was like, you know what?
Something just doesn't seem right anymore.
I can't be doing this for 20 years.
I can't look like some of these guys that aren't too happy.
They ain't too happy after 15 years.
They're on their third divorce.
You know how it goes.
And at the end of the day, I can make all this money.
Because at that point, I was making a quarter million a year with overtime.
Because as a sergeant, you're making like $80 an hour.
On overtime, $120 an hour.
It adds up very quickly.
And then a big police department like that, it's unlimited overtime.
Unlimited.
Unlimited overtime?
Like a big PD like that in the city, a dangerous place?
Unlimited overtime.
I don't have a field day, bro.
You'll be hustling.
That mentor I told you, he was hustling.
Barbados, we work hard, bro.
It's like a trade-off.
When you work for a big city that's dangerous, the good thing is you're able to get unlimited overtime, etc.
But the negative is you're in a big department where people don't know each other like that.
You might meet a PD guy that you never met before.
It's more dangerous, so it's a trade-off.
Exactly.
So all this is going on, right?
Lo and behold, crypto kicks off.
I got some real estate investments.
I got cash ATMs, right?
Paul actually ends up leaving.
Did you know Paul at that time when you did the ATMs?
I knew him, yeah.
So I actually knew him.
I didn't know he was doing ATMs at the same time, right?
It was one of those side hustles that I think...
Yeah, it was just you kept it low-key because you know how it is.
You laugh, right?
But you just don't want to bring it up with cash.
So with that being said, right?
Things are good, right?
But I'm just, something in the back of my head saying, hey, just don't stay over here, right?
And then my boy tells, and I hear the grapevine, right?
My officer that got shot, they put a case on him, an internal affairs case.
You know what the case was?
Cursing.
They said, you cursed, and that's against our policy.
After he got shot, he yelled, fuck.
And that was it.
I'm done.
I know I'm done with law enforcement.
I'm telling you, you can't believe it.
That's just how it is.
It's the Bay Area.
That's just how they roll.
If anyone makes a complaint, almost always the internal affairs has to do an investigation.
They must.
Whether they find it unfounded or whatever, they have to open a case.
It's ridiculous.
No matter how ridiculous or ludicrous it is, they have to open a case.
For cursing?
Yeah, and then I'm not surprised.
Like, California, this is why being law enforcement in liberal states is typically not to your best interest because they're super woke and they don't really protect their officers like that.
100%.
Yeah, so my whole job as a sergeant was just protecting my officers, right?
It was the same thing I learned in the Marine Corps, but I didn't realize that's not how it was in law enforcement.
You're supposed to throw them under the bus.
So I already didn't drive, right?
I wasn't with that.
So with that being said, I already have seven figures.
I had over a million dollars in the bank because of crypto, right?
So I'm thinking to myself, I don't need to be here, right?
I actually had gotten into UC Berkeley too.
So while I was in law enforcement, I started applying to different colleges because I went to community college.
Because I knew somehow, some way, I knew I needed to get out.
Got into UC Berkeley, I'm like, nah, that's not for me, right?
Because UC Berkeley, they lean a certain way.
That's not the way I roll.
Yeah, I was like, I can't do a shift of, you know, seeing somebody dead on the ground and then go to a college and them talking about we need to abolish the police.
I'm like, I can't do it.
Yeah, feminist studies and bullshit.
Bro, but you had a GI Bill, but you never used it, right?
It wasn't worth it.
It wasn't worth it to me.
College wasn't worth it.
Same, same, same.
Exactly, yeah.
So, with that being said, I'm thinking to myself, what do I do?
I'm seeing Paul over here with the McLaren.
I'm like, hey man, yo!
You know what's funny about this, right?
You see a guy doing well, he's on up and up.
But then you see his car is like, hold on a second.
That's not cheap.
You can't just get that by winging it.
So you're doing something right.
He rented it.
So Paul hits me up.
He's like, hey man, just come work for me.
I'll let you run operations.
You have military experience.
You have a law enforcement supervisor.
You know what you're doing, right?
Have Paul already left the PD at this point?
He already left this point, right?
He's trying to make some money.
He's trying to put in some work.
And I thought he was going to tell me I need to sell drugs, right?
I don't know.
Look, look, look.
It was an ongoing joke, man.
For anybody that's an ex-co-worker, ex-supervisor of mine, you know what I'm about to say.
But when I put up with the Porsche Panamera back when I was still a detective in law enforcement, this is the initial stages of when I actually build a tangible ATM business in the Bay Area, right?
So all that passive income that I was making, dude, it was covering my bills, and then the check that I was getting, I was an overtime whore, bro.
So I was working 60 to 100 hour work weeks, you know what I'm saying?
Yep.
Dude, what do you think I'm going to do with the money?
Exactly.
At the time, I'm in my lane.
It was 100 grand a year of free money because your bills were already taken care of with your passive income.
Bro, I was working so much and I know this dude was at that level because we would always see each other working overtime and shit.
Do they tax overtime like they do civilians or not for cops?
Yeah, they do.
So you do?
Wow.
Yeah, but we were at like $250, bro.
There was cats on overtime that was making like close to half a million dollars, but they were like fucking divorced.
No, no, facts.
I saw that YouTube video.
Somebody tried to like, you know, get on a cop, like it was the Rolex watch, and he like pulls out his begging cow and he's like half a million dollars there.
I'm like, bro, like what?
What are you doing?
You can really make a lot on overtime.
You really can.
That's what you were saying.
Half a million dollars.
Yeah, so the ongoing joke was there was a supervisor, man.
The supervisor was like, hey, man, whose Porsche Panamera is right there in the parking lot?
It was when I just got it, bro.
And at that time, stupid move, okay?
Never buy a brand new luxury car, guys.
All right?
I'm saying this right now.
I fucked up.
You know, I paid close to $100.
K for my Porsche Panamera.
But I got everything that I wanted.
You know, white and black rims and all that shit.
Tan interior.
It was, man, it was butter, dude.
But I'm driving in this dangerous ass city.
I'm like, what am I doing, bro?
I'm driving this to work and shit.
Not your target.
Yeah, I'm a target, right?
So I was just like, I gotta go get like a little hoopty or something that I could drive to work.
But I park it and all you see is the OGs, you know, they're getting off dog watch, you know, night shift and shit.
And they're just looking at me like, this motherfucker.
They're like, what?
Can you imagine they're pulling up in the van and he's like rolling in Panamera?
Bro, I went to the Christmas party with my team when I was on the task force.
I remember the sergeant was just like, hey, bro, you can't afford that on no cop salary.
What the fuck?
I was just like, oh, dude, no, I got a side hustle.
I got a side business.
But I didn't really go into it.
I was just always low-key.
So we would always chit-chat.
Like, what are you up to, man?
Because that was the...
Different thing about get them, you know, it's like when I would talk to anyone else in the department, they would just talk about law enforcement.
But see, the thing is, I didn't come from the military.
I mean, not like these guys, and I respect what they do as far as like, you know, being in the military and shit.
But I came from sales, you know, I came from corporate America, you know, I came from the hustle and shit.
So at the time, I found fulfillment in law enforcement, but then also I was about my money.
So I was doing my investments, everything, bro.
So when I would talk to Gedim, Gedim was just about his money too.
And he was just trying to convince me, hey, bro, buy Bitcoin.
He's like, you got to buy Bitcoin now.
I was just like, man, fuck your Bitcoin.
I'm trying to do ATM. I'm like, that's why you still work in the department, bro.
Come work with me.
But yeah, man.
Those are good times.
Yeah, so he said, hey, come on over, come over.
I want you to work with me, right?
This is 2021 now at this point?
Or 2020 still?
End of 2020.
Yeah, so the end of 2020, right?
Doing the ATM business.
We start expanding that.
Digital marketing also.
So he's doing consulting for some other influencers and all that good stuff, right?
Eh, this ain't too bad.
I was like, so you're telling me I'll make all this money, all I gotta do is send emojis?
Like, yeah, sure.
Click the link.
As you guys know, running businesses, it ain't like that, right?
So fast forward a year later, no, a year and a half later, running operations, we're expanding into multiple different things, and it turns into a multi-million dollar business.
And the thing is, is like, I wasn't meant to be here.
My parents are immigrants.
My dad was a janitor.
I thought for my life, the best thing I would do is work a 9 to 5.
Straight up.
That's it.
I knew I wasn't meant for college.
I'm straight up a glitch in the system.
And years later, here I am.
And it really comes down to working hard.
You have to treat every single day like it's a marathon.
Every single day.
When you want to execute, you have to execute as if it was supposed to be done yesterday.
And that was the one thing, and the one thing I transferred over from the military, and the one thing I learned from actually law enforcement also, it's just execute, execute, execute.
Because right now, society is telling people the sky is purple, but everyone watching right now knows the sky is blue.
And they're just saying, like, I don't know why everyone keeps saying the sky is purple, right?
But you know in your mind that you have to get after what you want.
The reason why I'm here is I'm fucking selfish.
I wanted a nice car.
I'm going to keep it real.
Society tells you, don't get this nice stuff, right?
But let's keep it real.
You've got to go after what you want because at the end of the day, you can volunteer for Greenpeace if you want or you can start your own actual foundation, right?
Let's keep it real.
So at the end of the day, that's why I'm here.
I had my selfish reasons and I wanted to take care of my family.
So I knew I was going to do what I had to do day after day, night after night.
I didn't care.
I was going to work my ass off.
I actually had to sacrifice those weekends, sacrifice those nights because at the end of the day, I could have went partying, I could have went clubbing, but then I wouldn't be here right now.
Well said.
100%.
I mean, listening to that story brought back a lot of memories for me, too, because that was the same way.
I gave up my 20s and worked quite a bit.
The difference is with the Feds, we don't get overtime like y'all.
So it was all free work.
The Feds, they put your salary, it's built into your salary, something called LEAP. That's funny, man.
So at my old job, I used to work in tech, right?
They gave us unlimited overtime at the very beginning.
New company, new area.
You know what?
Go crazy, kids, right?
So we're taking overtime for unlimited time?
This is perfect.
It's legit, right?
My buddy's from Mexico as well.
Shout out to Jesse, man.
Awesome guy.
He said, bro.
I was like, bro, why are you staying after work so late?
Like, dude, go home.
He said, bro, it's free overtime.
I said, what?
Unlimited.
I'm like, there's no way.
So you know what?
Let me give it a shot.
I did it for like a week, bro.
My paycheck went up a lot.
I was like, holy shit.
Ever since that day?
Non-stop.
And that money, I bought property with.
So, power, man.
Fades off.
So, I can hit the chats real quick, and then we'll keep going.
So, we got here.
Taj, the Beast X goes, I'm in the process of paying charges.
Charge-offs?
I think it means credit cards.
Should I do that before becoming an authorized user to build credit, or does it matter?
It doesn't really matter.
It doesn't really matter, but yeah, bro.
Pay that credit.
Yeah, it's one of the worst debts I have because the interest rates are ridiculous.
Yeah.
Cam Two Times goes, it would be dope if y'all brought in Eddie Griffin on the show or Living a Life of Abundance, a.k.a.
The Cheeks Learned Show.
He's the one who brought y'all to my attention in the beginning.
Okay.
We got here at Tad's the Beast again.
Be careful with Capital One.
My limit is $750 made over $3K in payments.
Use a different card to make last payment.
They froze my card for 26 days.
Just call the customer service, bro.
Just got my first ATM running a couple of hours ago.
Thanks to Paul and his crew.
Hey!
Hey!
We're going to talk about the ATM stuff here in a second, how it works.
Divinity Smokey goes, Hey, Myron and Fresh, do you think starting a YouTube channel for entertainment purposes is still a good go?
I'm wanting to start a Motovlog channel.
Honestly, bro, unless you're trying to, like, go hard with it and make money, I wouldn't...
YouTube is way too time-consuming.
As a business, you've got to be unique, bro.
Yeah.
There's so many model vlogs out there, channels.
It's like, bro, how do you stand out?
Yeah.
And if you're going to do it just for fun, that's fine.
But if you want to...
I would say if you're going to do it, do it to make money and go all the way.
Elmond Howard, 10 bucks.
Do either of you use a broker to help with investments?
I saw that Robert Kiyosaki does in Rich Dad.
Poor Dad.
I want to someday invest and want to know how you guys did it.
I don't use a broker personally, but we'll keep going.
Keep chilling.
Let's go.
20 bucks.
Appreciate that.
Norris Haddo, 10 bucks.
You are changing lives.
You, the Tate brothers and Sneeko, I grew up in a single mother household and had to fight the emotional upbringing.
I pray for you guys and the Tates keep changing lives.
Yeah, Tate will be home soon.
Don't worry, guys.
Old man goes, hey, Ryan, I'm Stephan.
How can I make $500 today?
We'll talk about that here with the ATM stuff.
Wimbo, do a Christian Dorner fed it.
I've researched the case.
I'll eventually get to it.
3K goes, I just started the gym.
Already seeing progress.
I still need some tips and any protein shake.
Any suggestions?
Just get a good whey protein, man.
Griffin and Curtis, 10 bucks, goes, what's up, guys?
After the last show with Paul, I decided to get an ATM together and just ordered my first ATM for dispensary and MS. I think Mississippi means.
Shout out to Santino for guiding me through the process.
Keep it up, FNF. Okay, awesome, man.
And then Turtles for the win goes, I've had a question with the latest video.
Do you think Chris Watts was a psychopath and was crying crocodile tears or did he actually feel regret or sorry?
Thanks, FNF videos.
Shout out to the panel.
No, crocodile tears.
He didn't care.
He wanted to be with that other chick.
Tapper Production, five bucks.
At least you didn't have to walk five miles for water anymore.
Okay.
Yanny Blaze, five bucks.
What the hell?
What do you think about investing in Arrive, a Bezos company, to invest in homes or buying a small piece of land and on Elon Musk's tiny home for $250 a month?
I mean, the more you know, the better.
But, I mean, we're not versed on that, bro.
Yeah, I'm not versed on it.
AJ, 200 bucks.
Shout out to you, bro.
He goes, hey, just went under contract with a single fam home.
Got the inspection report back.
I'm doing the money.
Should I walk or renegotiate the deal to have equity and use that to fix the issues?
I'm still looking for multifamily units for that area.
By the way, I pulled from my TSP last year.
Had a negative 3% return.
I'm doing the money.
Should I walk or renegotiate the deal to have equity?
It's like a 401k for the military.
Yeah, it's a federal one, but I don't know what he means by, I'm doing the money.
I'm doing the money.
What do you mean by that, bro?
Like, did the house not appraise?
If the house didn't appraise, then yeah, 100% renegotiate, bro, and tell them you're only going to pay what it appraise for, if that's what you're saying.
But go ahead and clarify for us, because I don't know what you mean by, I'm doing the money, should I blah blah.
Guilherme Reyes goes, 50 bucks.
Perfect timing.
Went to the gym in the morning.
Went to work.
Just now left the boxing gym.
All because of you, Fresh Fit.
Thank you.
Slowly escaping the matrix.
Thanks for this knowledge.
Absolutely.
It's unacceptable.
There you go, brother.
LP Berserker goes, facts.
When I first got into law enforcement, everybody was telling me to slow down about three years in.
I got asked to join a task force that works closely with the DA. Good stuff, my friend.
Yeah, they're always going to tell you that.
Because they don't want you to make them look bad.
My Lamy goes, you guys inspired me to start my own podcast.
Much love to you guys from Boca Raton, Florida.
Shout out to you.
Shout out to you.
And then, oh lord, I'm actually on the edge of my seat with the story, Free the Tates.
Yeah, man, that was a great story.
Damien Orozco goes, representing the Bay Area well, unlike most of the women from the Bay Area in the after hours lately.
I'm from Hayward.
Thanks for sharing this wild story.
Wguess, WFNF. Absolutely, man.
I currently live in California.
Should I look into a different state for properties or duplexes, complexes in California, LA area?
Yeah, get the fuck out of California, bro.
I'll go to Nevada if I were you.
No state income taxes.
The properties are fairly cheap.
Way better options.
Yeah, I mean, you can invest in California, but...
No, no, no.
Facts, man.
Facts.
That's why we're moving to Miami, man.
Yeah, that's it, bro.
As a real estate investor, bro, you typically don't want to be in a blue state if you can help it.
Are there situations where you can do it?
Yeah, I got properties in Connecticut, but I have certain advantages there that help me out.
But in general, you want to stay out of blue states when it comes to being a real estate investor.
And you don't want to be in states where they favor the tenant over the landlord.
That's another thing, too.
Like, Michigan is notorious for this, where if you try to evict somebody, it's damn near impossible to get them out.
Geminov goes, did the automation program with these guys 100% recommended?
Yep, absolutely.
We're going to talk about that in a second.
And then the last three chats here.
And then from this point forward, Chris, what, 20 and up?
Yep.
All right.
I'm going to read the rest of these guys.
And then everything else from here is 20 and up.
So we want to give you guys the sauce on ATM stuff.
Aza Mogali goes, 30K in the bank right now doing absolutely nothing for me trying to start a business but unsure what to do.
Any suggestions?
Stay tuned!
You're going to hear right now.
Yep.
And then Sovereign Monarch goes, W, law enforcement and vets, a GG, father, Marine, Boston PD, godfather was Navy, Boston PD, 20 years Army, I'm Army vet also, successes and mindset and dedication, strong foundations, build strong men.
Absolutely, man.
That's what we're talking about.
And then Chris Vision goes, I've been saving money from my overtime.
I've been working 60 to 70 hours a week and want to get into real estate.
Is it not a good time to buy rentals?
When do you know it's the best time to start?
All right, listen, bro.
Buy real estate now.
People that are telling you, oh, don't buy real estate, it's not good.
These big companies like Blackstone, etc., they're buying up, or BlackRock, whatever the fuck it's called, they're buying up all the single family homes right now.
So they're telling you don't buy, but the reality is they're buying, guys.
There's never a wrong time to get into real estate.
Buy now while you can.
If you have the capital, get in.
And also, it depends on the numbers as well.
It might be a bad time, but the numbers are right.
Why even wait?
Yeah.
Why wait?
Whether it's a business or real estate, guys, it's never too late to start.
Get in now.
Don't be a procrastinator.
All right?
All right.
So, oh, and last one here.
Doing the numbers for the house ran out of character for the chat.
Bro, you should have underwrote the deal before you even made an offer.
You always got to underwrite the deal with the worst numbers and see how it goes.
But if the house didn't appraise at what it's supposed to, renegotiate at what it appraised at.
All right.
Or do some kind of deal where they cover closing costs or whatever.
But you can, you know, if the offer is good, they'll typically take it.
And you got an advantage is moving towards a buyer's market slowly.
So let's turn it to y'all with the day.
So let's say someone has money to invest like a couple of guys that put in the chat here.
They got 10K, 20K, even 5K maybe.
Yeah.
How'd they get involved with running an ATM business and how does it work?
Yeah.
So that's actually very interesting.
So with cash ATMs, as you know, we've been in business for years, right?
We focus on cash ATMs.
We've actually completely pivoted, right?
We still do the cash ATMs.
But if somebody told you right now, like, no one would you guys know about real estate.
If somebody said, hey, you know what?
It's 08 and like, hey man, I would actually buy some real estate right now if I could.
In hindsight, you guys are like, hell yeah.
Or if I told you about Airbnb years ago, right?
So we pivoted to Bitcoin ATMs.
Yep, Bitcoin ATMs.
I heard about that.
And you hear about it, right?
And you're in Miami.
Hot spot over here.
So check this out.
Before I even get into that, the way I found out about Bitcoin ATMs was actually years ago in law enforcement, right?
It's actually a funny story.
So I'm over here before I got promoted at Morgan Patrol, right?
And I hear this three-letter agency come in the city, right?
And the city we're in would always have the feds come in.
You're talking about DEA, IRS, FBI, Secret Service, all that good stuff.
It was a plethora of stuff available for them, right?
It was a playground.
So I hear this three-letter agency come in and like, hey, there's no need for local law enforcement.
Don't worry.
We have enough staff.
We have enough agents.
But we're at this location and we're seizing some Bitcoin ATMs.
And I'm over here like Bitcoin ATMs.
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Right?
So, you know, patrol, law enforcement, I was like, I gotta slide through.
I gotta fly the flag.
I gotta fly the flag, right?
I gotta make sure they know we're here.
So I actually ended up going over there because I invested in crypto already.
This is actually back in like 2018, 2019.
So I've been invested in crypto for years.
So I talked to one of the local agents.
And I'm talking, I'm like, hey, you know, what's going on?
The Bitcoin ATMs, right?
I'd never thought about even getting into that.
I just thought about buying crypto.
So I talked to the guy, I'm like, what happened?
He's like, well, I was like, we're looking at these guys for something else, right?
But the owner of this Bitcoin ATM is not paying taxes.
Ah, okay.
They got them for tax evasion, right?
Which is a catch-all for everything, as you know, right?
So, of course, me, I'm inquisitive.
I got to ask, what are they talking about?
He's like, man, this guy's making over $30,000 a month from this machine.
And you're talking about to make that $30,000, that means $150K, $200K goes into that machine.
Yeah.
So it blows my mind.
Because I thought I was walking on the clouds making like $150,000 a year.
I was like, man, I'm the top G. And this guy's making $30,000 a month, like one-fifth of my salary in one month.
And the guy owns multiple Bitcoin ATMs.
So it blows my mind.
So he was using the crypto to evade taxes.
Exactly.
Right?
And he had people come in, they put cash in, you know, all that good stuff, right?
So I start looking into the Bitcoin ATM concept.
Back then, it was almost impossible to get into, and it still is now.
And the reason why is because you become what's called a money service business, right?
So you're the equivalent of basically being a check cashing place, being a bank, being a foreign currency exchange.
Lots of regulations with MSBs.
Exactly, as you know, right?
You got to register at the federal level, state level, county level, all that good stuff, right?
Paperwork, paperwork, paperwork, right?
So with that being said, I try to get into it.
When I was talking to the manufacturers, they're like, nope, you got to buy like five of these bad boys, right?
So I didn't have the money.
And then I got to try to talk to all these banks.
They're like, nope, we're not about to let you do it because back then, crypto and banks, they just wouldn't work together, right?
It's competition.
That's just how it is.
Even to this day, it's hard, right?
So I try to get into it.
I fail.
It's like, hey, whatever.
So a few months ago, we were actually trying to do it ourselves.
It was just the capital.
We were spending lots and lots of money for the research and all that good stuff.
It wasn't working out.
We got actually combined forces with a major Bitcoin ATM company nationwide.
They actually invested, along with us, over a million dollars in compliance and all that good stuff.
We have our attorneys and all that.
Gotcha.
And so we've completely focused on this.
And the reason why is because I know most people are thinking like Bitcoin, man, that thing's down, like crypto's crashing and all that.
But that's the best part about it.
Yeah.
Because when people are scared of using the exchanges like Coinbase, well, I mean, they're getting scared of using places like, you know, Celsius, for example, BlockFi, FTX, where do they go?
The only other place to actually transfer cash for actual crypto is go to one of these machines.
It's the only place.
So here's the reason why.
When you try to get into the business yourself, it's impossible.
It actually costs you a little over $100,000 at least because you need to own the crypto.
So you need to own at least two Bitcoins, which is, what is it, like 20-something thousand right now for a Bitcoin?
Yeah, one big, yeah.
It's like the two of them would be like $40,000 to $50,000.
Exactly.
You need the cash management.
You need all this good stuff.
And then you have federal regulation.
You got to deal with IRS audits, all that good stuff, right?
So we completely pivoted because the way we do things is much different, right?
And the reason why is because, first of all, there's a few different populations that use these machines, okay?
So there's actually the Hispanic community.
Heavy usage.
A lot of our machines are actually at Hispanic markets.
Okay.
And the reason why is because how do people send money overseas?
It used to be Western Union and, you know, MoneyGram.
I'm from Eastern Europe.
It still is.
It still is.
Western Union, right?
So I'm outdating myself at this point, right?
So a lot of these people are probably, what the hell is Western Union, right?
So when you try to do that, you've got to transfer it to the local economy, right?
So you've got to get in pesos if you're in Venezuela, or if you're in one of these countries that have hyperinflation, you have to go local currency, right?
And then the government sometimes didn't let you pull out all your money.
So what are they doing?
And they will tax.
It doesn't matter if it's family to family, they will still tax on top of the currency exchange loss.
So you'd be like, you're going to lose like 20, 30%.
Exactly.
Bro, come on.
And you have limits of what you can send.
And you're trying to help your family.
Like, come on.
So with crypto, as you guys know, if you want to send a Bitcoin across the nation or across the world, it takes like 10 minutes.
Yeah.
We see a lot of actually people, especially minorities and a lot of communities of that origin.
The reason why is because first of all, with Hispanics, they actually send it overseas.
So they're sending it to family overseas and they literally just got to put cash inside the machine.
They get charged a convenience fee, which is our profit, whoever invests in a Bitcoin ATM. And then it gets sent over to whoever they want, whoever has that Bitcoin wallet, wherever they are, whether they're in Nigeria, whether they're in Venezuela or in Argentina, it doesn't matter, right?
So with that being said, there's other populations.
So there's the underbanked community, the people that don't trust banking, the people that just don't want to use banking, right?
They use these machines.
And then there's an elderly population because right now there's a mass adoption of crypto happening.
It's going to happen behind the scenes in banking and all that good stuff.
I looked at the comments there and people saying, hey, my state, I've seen Bitcoin ATM. Hey guys, if you've seen Bitcoin ATM, shoot in the comment, what state and where have you seen it?
Let's see in comments how many Bitcoin ATMs out there.
Yeah, no, there's actually not that many.
You bring up a good point.
So there's not that many because you're going to see cash ATMs a lot of the places, right?
There's still places to put them, but you're going to see them more than likely.
You're not going to really run into Bitcoin ATMs, Connecticut especially also.
We actually have, there's a machine over there making $100,000 a month, right?
Ridiculous, because it's, there's not that many machines.
So you see the elderly population using these also.
And the reason why is because they're not going to sign up, is grandma going to sign up for Coinbase?
Probably not.
Come on, let's keep it real.
She ain't gonna sign up for that.
We need some coins for them boys.
So what are they gonna do?
They're still using checks, right?
So what's she gonna do?
She's hearing about this Bitcoin thing on Thanksgiving dinner.
The nephews are coming in.
The nieces are coming in.
Say, I bought this dog coin or whatever.
But they're hearing about, like, I don't want to get left behind.
So what do they do?
They go to a familiar institution.
What are they familiar with?
A cash ATM.
So now they know that if I put this cash in here, it's actually going to translate into this thing called Bitcoin on this piece of paper because it prints out a wallet.
Guess what happens?
They use that machine and we're charging 15 to 20% on these machines.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
And you made $150.
I picked the chat and a lot of people, Bitcoin trash, Bitcoin trash.
We're working currently on, it's going to be a poll, right?
Different type of currencies coming in, in the future.
It's not just going to be all stock to the Bitcoin.
I mean, everything's evolving.
Version 2.0, 2.3, hey, we ain't stopping.
So it's future.
Yeah.
Is Ethereum next, I'm assuming?
So it comes down to market demand, right?
The machines themselves, it's basically a mobile crypto exchange, right?
So the reason why it's only Bitcoin right now in most machines is because it's stability, first of all.
And second of all, it's a household name.
It's like when you ask for a sanitizer wipe, what do you ask for?
A Clorox wipe, right?
So there's no point of selling something no one's going to buy.
But it all comes down to market demand.
It could be freaking PandaCoin or whatever it is.
And we would think it'd be Ethereum next, but we're focused on what the market wants.
Because the market dictates what you do.
Yes.
So the next coins, plural, is just going to be whatever the market wants, right?
Right now we focus on Bitcoin because the majority of people want to buy Bitcoin.
It's a store of value.
There's only going to be so many.
Whether you believe in it or not, it don't matter because you're the broker, right?
The people that really make the money are the ones on the middleman or the middlewoman, let's call it, right?
The real estate agents, the mortgage brokers, all that.
They're making money off.
They're taking a cut off the piece.
And the reason I bring this up, right, is because when it comes down to it, you don't have to believe in something to make money off of it.
One of the things I learned, especially working in law enforcement, was I would have to go to the McDonald's.
I got to go to the Taco Bell, because there'd be flights, right?
It'd be the homeless guy throwing a chalupa at somebody, right?
And so the actual franchise owner would show up, right?
And a lot of the time, they actually happened to be Indian, right?
And Korean, for some reason, I don't know what it was.
And I would always talk to them.
And I'd always bring it up.
I'm like, hey, man, like, do you eat Taco Bell?
They're like, hell no, I don't eat Taco Bell.
Because at the end of the day, they're like, no, we just make money off the business.
So that's why I bring that up because you don't need to actually believe in something.
You don't have to believe in crypto.
It don't matter if crypto's at $50,000.
It don't matter if Bitcoin's at a dollar.
As long as someone buys some from the machine or they sell, you make money.
You literally are doing arbitrage at the end of the day.
That's why we've completely focused on this because we're seeing mass adoption.
One of the biggest Bitcoin ATM companies that doesn't allow anybody to invest.
Bitcoin Depot, look it up.
They're going public with the SPAC or special purpose acquisition company.
They're going public.
While crypto was crashing, while FTX went down, while Celsius went down, while 3AC, all these big companies were taking everybody down, cascading effects, they actually saw record revenue.
Yeah.
Because what were people doing?
FOMO, fear of missing out.
Of course.
So they're going to these machines.
What do the people do?
All of a sudden, actually in the hood, inside the actual grocery store.
You walk by, you're like, man, I keep seeing this Bitcoin ATM. Let me throw $100 at it because I don't know.
It's like a lotto ticket.
Yeah.
So we're seeing phenomenal results.
I mean, we have machines making us $6,000 a month, $1,000, $15,000 a month.
It's ridiculous.
Passive.
Passive.
You don't need to do anything.
And again, with ATM together, you buy the business.
That's it.
Yeah, so it's wildness.
And it's one of those things where it's mass adoption coming.
Because if you guys didn't know, behind the scenes, banking right now is transitioning to a crypto-based settlement system.
So the system we use worldwide is changing.
Behind the scenes, look it up.
It's on the World Economic Forum.
It's public.
It's not Googled.
They're changing to a crypto-based settlement system for the banking, right?
And here's why this is important.
We're adopting it.
We don't even realize it now.
So you have to get in before the next bull run.
Because I don't care if Bitcoin hits $100,000.
I've been invested for years ago, right?
But I do understand when the crypto prices start to go up, guess what happens?
People go to my machines.
When the crypto price goes down, all of a sudden when it goes from $20k to $16k, all I see is buy orders because people are saying, hey, I want to buy some more crypto.
Exactly.
Absolutely phenomenal.
It doesn't matter because you're already in the middle.
And that's kind of the same situation for me, like being in real estate, like as a landlord, whether the market goes up or down, people are still going to always need a place to live, right?
So it doesn't change anything.
So I can see where you're going with this because at the end of the day, right, the thing about crypto is that it's going to be a lot easier to send money through crypto.
So whether it goes down or up, people are still going to use it as intermediary to send money to their family.
100%.
And let's get a scenario, digital.
Who wants to use cash anymore?
At the same time, I've seen one Bitcoin ATM here in Miami, but let's say I want to get involved.
How do I start?
Yeah, real simple.
So the way we do things is extremely simple because the thing is you become a money service business if you actually run the business yourself.
So we structured it.
It's almost like a vending machine.
You're dispensing crypto, right?
So how we do it is we walk you through everything, right?
The LLC, the EIN, forming the business, finding the actual bank account.
And then we ship you the brand new ATM. And the reason why I bring this up is because you can always get used, you can be cheap at the end of the day, but you're going to pay for it later.
It's almost like debit cards, how they added chips to them.
So the reason why you want to have buy and sell machines is because the standard is going to change.
Right now, there's not a lot of Bitcoin ATMs.
But when there's much more, there has to be a standard.
When you go from New York City to Los Angeles, there has to be something, some familiarity, some kind of standard to what you do.
So you don't want to be left behind with these buy-only machines.
So we send you a brand new, send an actual brand new machine.
It's two-way.
It has an advertising screen on top of it.
It's kind of like, you know, gas stations when you get that annoying ad when you actually pull your pump out.
Yeah.
The reason why they do that is because they're making money off the advertising.
Of course.
It's advertising.
It's the most actual valuable commodity right now is attention.
In 2023 and on, attention is the most valuable commodity.
It's not oil and anything else.
It's who can capture attention.
So with that being said, you have two sources of income with that.
So we said we actually get the machine for them.
And then what we actually do is we actually handle the fulfillment, right?
So we'll find you a location.
We have a call center based out of Europe.
Man, I was like flying past Ukraine to talk to the call center.
It was wildness, right?
Yeah.
So we pivoted, focused on Bitcoin ATMs, they find a premium location, right?
And the reason why is because we found over 2,000 nationwide and in Canada, so know what we're doing, right?
So with that being said, they find your location, we secure it for you, we actually ship the machine there, it gets installed for you, and it's completely passive.
We actually own the crypto, so our actual hot wallet is connected, so we have to own a lot of crypto.
To sustain all these machines.
And then we connect with an actual freaking armored vehicle service, like Brinks or Loomis, like one of these large companies.
They handle the cash.
And literally, we manage everything, right?
So we manage the actual cash management.
When it gets to a certain point, we get the armored vehicle to actually come pick up the cash.
And then we charge a percentage, right?
So you charge a percentage to make the money.
So it's typically between 15% to 20%.
And I know a lot of people are like, man, who the fuck would pay 15% to 20%?
But there's no other way to literally have cash in your hands and turn it into crypto right now.
It's impossible.
There's no other method, right?
So with that being said, we handle everything that way.
So if people want to get involved, we're actually the only ones in the business doing this.
But get them.
Mike, Paul, if you can do this for us, why not do it for yourself?
Why involve us as the middleman?
We do.
So I own Bitcoin ATMs.
Paul does also, right?
I actually just installed one in San Francisco the other day.
But we actually modeled this.
I love how you brought up the federal task force.
That's how we modeled this entire business.
Okay.
So what we found was this.
We could spend, I mean, it costs a lot of money, right?
It's in the millions to get all these machines.
So we could lock up all our capital and all these different machines, or we can build a grassroots type movement.
So the way we did it was like the same way with our cash ATMs, because we're not really a fan of franchises.
So we built other people's businesses.
So as you know, the federal task force model, it's basically a force multiplier for the federal agencies.
Yeah.
You have one agent assigned and you have like 15 local cops and you use their expertise of their knowledge of that area to actually make the agency or the actual task force successful.
So we did the same thing.
We said, hey, you know what?
Why don't we empower people that know their areas to install their machines?
Nice.
So what we do is we'll have a call with you and be like, hey man, this is the zip code.
Tell us where you want to avoid.
Tell us where you want to focus on.
And it turns into this.
You tell us the direction.
We will get you there simpler, faster, and easier.
That's our business model.
Because at the end of the day, yeah, we could do it.
It's going to be much slower though.
That's the reason why there's only four other Bitcoin ATM companies nationwide.
It's like the major banks.
The reason why is because it locks up a lot of capital.
For us, what we do is we have investors that launched our own business.
And that's what we focus on.
So to answer your question.
And I'm fairly new.
Go ahead, Bull.
And just to keep it simple, guys, because I mean, I see the chat.
People just, you know, saying some ignorant shit.
But hey, I'm just going to keep it real with you guys.
We're basically business partners.
That's the way I look at this, okay?
Think about it like this.
If I was to be like fresh...
Hey, invest 20k and you're going to see such and such returns in a matter of months or a couple years.
That is actually way better than real estate.
Most people, they're going to be like, bro, show me the proof.
Alright, cool.
Let me show you my bank account.
It's almost like the Wolf of Wall Street shit where they're like, show me 75k.
You drive that Jag?
Yeah.
People are not going to fucking invest until you prove it to them.
course so this is what i got for you guys all right social proof we got social proof all day you go on his ig get them why that's g-e-d-a-m-w-h-y or mine paul alex espinoza on ig we post our clients all the time and what i always tell all my clients is whoever invests in any of our programs any of our investments hey we're not successful unless they're successful so So at the end of the day, this is why we were able to build an eight-figure company within two years.
And this is straight nine-to-fivers.
People, you just heard this man's story.
I mean, he was sergeant police.
He was hated on for years.
I was a narco detective from corporate America and shit.
At the end of the day, we're just, hey, actual people, nine-to-fivers that turn full-time entrepreneurs, and we're doing it.
So it is what it is, you know?
And that's my neighbor.
And that's how I literally, that's how I literally, I was like, bro, like, you're beaming.
Your eyes are glowing.
Like, I'm like, what's up?
What do you do?
You're successful.
So, like, that's how I got into it.
Because, you know, I was just, and I see, like.
The results.
The results.
I see the car.
I see everything.
I see people.
I was one of the first ones to install BTM in San Diego.
I actually learned a new skill, so that was kind of cool.
I'm more of a hands-on guy.
I will say this, though.
I've had people ask me in the chat or Instagram, yo, bro, try to trade the ATM business with Paul and get him.
I'm like, bro, go for it.
Give it a shot.
And they've been like, yo, bro, I got major results.
So it does work, 100%.
I know that.
So, question then.
How much would someone need to invest, and then what kind of returns would they expect?
So you're looking at five figures, right?
And it depends, right?
To invest.
Yeah, to invest.
So you would need at least, okay, like what, 10K? Yeah, you're at least like 10, 15K to start an actual Bitcoin ATM business.
And you can look up the prices.
You can always look up the prices online.
Like there's all these different manufacturers.
We focus on the best.
And then return, we're looking at about $1,000 to $6,000 a month.
And it depends because it's the business, right?
And I look at it like this.
If anyone ever promises you a return on investment, They're fucking lying to you, right?
Because it's a business, right?
So what we did is we controlled the factors that will lead to your success, including the location, the marketing, the promotions.
And then we actually paid for a consulting agency.
We said, hey, let's try to copy Bitcoin Depot's data, right?
Let's target all these other companies.
Let's mimic what they've done for success also.
And then we compare it to market data, crime data, actual demographics of the area to find the best locations, right?
So you're looking at about $1,000 to $6,000 a month, depending because it fluctuates.
Some months are going to be high.
With a $10,000 to $15,000 investment.
You're looking at somewhere between $1,000 to $6,000.
Exactly.
And at the end of the day, we keep it transparent.
It's like, hey, this is how we do things.
We've proven our success.
We have our social proof.
You can see it on our website.
Links are below, guys.
You go to atmtogether.com and it literally shows right there screenshots from March.
It tells you net revenue, gross revenue, all that good stuff.
Just get on Facebook group.
That's...
That's where you can talk to real people like myself and whoever invests.
You just click on a person, shoot them a message, and they'll tell you the truth.
I'm all about simple businesses at the end of the day.
I like businesses that make sense.
It's like laundromats.
It's like real estate.
That's one of the biggest things that actually changes people's zip codes.
Cash ATMs.
I've been to some strip clips.
I'm like, you know what?
I see how this business makes sense.
There's a need for actual quick cash.
Then I understand the demographics of this business.
My favorite It's just one of those things, right?
And it's a secretive business.
No one's talked about it.
I mean, the first one was in the Bay Area like 10 years ago, right?
And it didn't gain traction.
I look at it like this, right?
We're the people saying, hey, you know what?
I should invest in this.
You don't have to if you don't want to.
It don't matter.
It don't matter to us.
But years down the road, we're like, man, I heard about that on Fresh and Hit that one time.
Guess what's going to happen?
You're like, man, I missed the actual boat.
When CNN or Mad Money or whatever, that guy, Jim Kramer, starts talking about something, it's already too late, right?
That's how I always look at things.
Get them, get them.
But how many people in chat are actually proactive?
Who likes to do homework?
People are lazy.
People are lazy, so people like to talk.
Talk is cheap, guys.
Do your homework.
Actually, join the Facebook group.
Hit up people.
Ask.
Stop just, oh, he said, she said.
If you're real, just get on it.
Find out for yourself because people just yap.
Yeah.
And the easiest way to do it, like the easiest way to actually figure out if something makes sense is literally you can go to CoinATM Radar.
You can look up on Google Maps, Bitcoin ATM, go to the store and talk to the business owner.
I'm like, hey, whose machine is this?
Right?
Have you seen people use it?
Like how much money have you seen them put in?
That's it.
Right?
Because there's no way we can own every single machine.
You're not wrong with being skeptical.
Take out of the internet.
Go ahead and do research with anything.
But, I mean, there's no doubt about it that, you know, cryptocurrency is definitely going to be the future.
I mean, we're moving more and more towards digital currency.
I've seen guys put money into the machine and send girls crypto.
Probably like OnlyFans, too, or something.
It's insane, bro.
And it's a club.
Yeah.
Legit, right there.
Your wife doesn't check your Bitcoin, so...
Clever.
Clever, clever.
So, let's say someone has, you know, 10, 15K to invest.
What would they do?
Would they get on a call with you guys and discuss, hey, I want to do this, and then you guys basically, they give you the money, and then you guys just basically ship them the ATM, and then you tell them where the most optimal places are to put it to get the highest ROI? Like, you guys handle all those?
That's a very good question.
So we always break it down first.
Like there's any calls and enrollment, all that good stuff, right?
Fully transparent coming from law enforcement.
But the way it works is real simple.
Everything's managed.
There's a few things, right?
You got to start your own business, right?
You got to open your own bank account.
We can't do that for you, right?
Got to start an LLC. And if someone tries to do that for you, it's probably a stamp, right?
You don't want to give your bank info, right?
We start all that basic stuff.
Then we actually order the machine, ship it to the place that we find for you also.
But you screen it yourself also.
So we tell you, hey, this is the location.
This is the data.
This is the recording of us speaking to the person.
I'm assuming you guys try to put it close to them as you can.
It depends what they want.
So we actually have one of our most recent investors.
He actually is in Colorado.
He installed one in Georgia.
And you see it's actually online.
It's on my stories.
A dude made like $1,400 his first month, right?
It was a lot of idea.
So they sell lottery tickets, certain population that's over there, benefiting the first day.
You can always reach out to people.
So you all prioritize that making money versus it being close to them.
Exactly.
And the places that actually do the best, especially if you want to do this on your own, the places that do the best have longer hours.
24-7 type spots.
24-7 spots.
They have to have about 5-10 minutes of time to actually use that machine.
And they have a lot of foot traffic.
So you're looking at gas stations, airports, restaurants, liquor stores.
What else?
Not like barbershops or smaller spots like that, but longer hours and grocery stores too.
And you can find your own spot.
Invest on your own.
Do it on your own, right?
Because at the end of the day, that leads to more adoption for us.
But those are the best type of locations we found.
And then based on our data and paying for consulting agencies...
So you give a suggestion and then it's up to them if they want to take it.
Exactly.
So we'll give the location.
If you don't like it, cool.
We find you another one.
You don't like that one, we find you another one.
But we've never had anyone not like a location because we tell them, hey, check this out.
This is the data.
This is how many people go here.
This is what the business owner said.
We spoke to them directly.
And these are the reasons why you should have your machine there.
Cool.
You're ready to roll.
We give you a contract.
You sign it between you and them.
It's your business.
And then you're up and running and fulfillment's handled on the back end.
Nice.
Okay.
So you all coordinate the money pickups with the armored truck company, et cetera.
And then they get a dividend.
They get that 15 to 20% from people using it.
Yeah.
And there's a dashboard.
It tells you just like stocks or anything, right?
And it just gets deposited into the bank account.
Once a month.
Yeah.
Advertising revenue, which is one thing.
And then you get your revenue from the actual machine too.
So it's real simple.
That's how it actually works.
And then we handle the fulfillment on the back end.
There's actually a 1-800 number on the machine.
We handle everything.
You'll never be called for that machine.
So there's no, it's zero, literally hands off.
That's why we see a lot of real estate investors and we see a lot of people like in your position because you're diversifying your income, right?
It's a simple business.
It makes sense if you want to build it on side.
I mean, that's why I have military buddies investing.
That's why we're investing because we came from simple backgrounds.
We know simplicity equals success, right?
Simplicity scales, complexity fails.
So we keep it as simple as possible and that's it.
That's how it runs.
Okay.
So this is really something for people that like, hey, I got 10,000, 20,000, 30,000.
I don't know what to do with it.
And this is a way to get a quick, easy, hands-off way to get almost damn near 10% ROI, it looks like to me, if not more.
Dude, what I like to say, it's a business in a box.
That's what it is.
If you guys checked out the first episode I was on, and I talked about our cash traditional ATMs, how semi-passive to passive that business is, the only thing that people didn't like about it Is the fact, and this is what 1,700 clients, they didn't like about it, some people, is the fact that they had to go reload the money into the actual cash ATM. So you got to think about that.
Fun fact, guys, about 80% of our clientele is actually women.
Oh, really?
It's a trip, bro.
I don't know what it is, man.
They bring the husbands, the boyfriends.
I remember when he first started, he was on Zoom with the couples.
They're like, yeah, man, thanks for helping out my wife.
I'll be like, who are you talking to, bro?
Ultimately, a lot of our clients, they were like, hey, I don't feel safe loading up the ATM with a bunch of cash.
And I was just like, Paul, do you suggest I get a gun?
I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I don't know.
I mean, I was strapped.
You know what I'm saying?
So anybody trying something on me, it's bad for you.
But with that being said, not everybody can get a gun in whatever state they are, especially if they're in Cali, right?
So with the Bitcoin ATM, this is the most passive type of investment that you can do.
And trust me, this is coming from somebody that originally told this guy, hey, Fuck your Bitcoin, right?
But the thing is, you got to look at it as basically you're the middleman.
You're basically the person just connecting the buyer with the seller.
And then we're all in business together.
And you're essentially getting that 10% and return on investment with every transaction.
Here's a cool thing about it.
It ain't like going to titsies, right?
Going to a strip club where you need like 500 transactions to make $5,000 or whatever, right?
No.
All you need is like one or two transactions a month.
That ain't a barber shop, yo.
One or two transactions a month and you're making thousands of dollars.
It's cool.
And I'm going to tell you this, with any type of business, you're not going to get rich off of one investment.
Of course, yeah.
Real estate.
And this is what everybody got to understand is the fact that you start off with actual millionaires that are helping you build a business.
And that's what people got to get through their mind because like anything else, you know, we've invested literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in learning the skillset that we had.
This is why I was able to expedite My wealth.
I can share my story.
Within a few years, right?
So at the end of the day, dude, this is what we're basically trying to say is, hey, we can start you off, and then if you need more help, we got the team to do it.
See, money loves speed, right?
I'll say, for example, most guys that want to get businesses, they'll be like, oh, I'm going to try myself.
I'm going to buy all this stuff myself and figure it out.
That's a learning curve, man.
You have a mentor that's going to help you.
Why don't you take the mentor's help?
They've learned the whole learning curve.
They've been through it themselves.
And I think the important thing to also understand is that you're not going to get rich off one ATM, guys.
We're going to have to buy a bunch of them to really get rich.
It's the same thing with real estate, right?
I have 12 properties now.
Now it's really starting to come in, but after one or two, that's not enough.
You have to have multiple properties.
My story is different.
I hit the curb in November, December as an online coach.
Our business goes down.
A lot of coaches are forced to lower their prices.
And, you know, devalue their service.
I get one or two ATMs, and that kind of makes up for the slow business time.
That works for me.
My value stays as an online fitness coach.
I don't have to try to get more clients lowering my value and my service.
While I know I got that little pat right there with a couple of ATMs, Bitcoin ATMs, that make up for that loss because, again, it's business.
Yeah, looking at it long term is you're not going to get...
We don't like the little get-rich-quick schemes.
I think that's very important for the audience to know that this isn't a get-rich-quick scheme.
This is something to augment the money you're already making so that you have a cushion.
100%.
You can scale it if you like, right?
And we do have business partners.
We have clients that do that, right?
And you see the social proof.
It's there.
It's online.
People post their photos standing right next to it, right?
But we look at it as like this, hey, it's a long-term investment because at the end of the day, it's like real estate.
If you get into real estate and you buy a single-family home and you rent it, you're like, I'm going to make a million dollars this year and you're going to have a rude awakening, right?
But 20 years from now, 15 years from now, when you have generational wealth, that's a little different story, right?
When you build your portfolio.
That's how we look at things.
Okay, okay.
That's solid.
But chat, you get haircut every week.
Just ask the barbershop owner, what do you make on that ATM? Yeah.
That's it.
Simple.
No, absolutely.
It's a sustainable business for anybody that's looking to invest.
At the end of the day, here, this is what we got for you guys.
Just like last time.
I think last time I was here, we gave away a free ATM or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
But we got something for you guys, all right?
Yeah.
So with that being said, we actually had a raffle last week.
So we're giving away a package, we're giving away ATMs, all that good stuff.
Two out of the three people didn't claim the prize.
Check my Instagram for us.
We name them off, it's randomized, you see the wheels spinning and everything, right?
So we're actually giving away two ATMs, right?
For free, there's no...
It's actually CashATMs.
CashATMs.
Get ready.
Get ready, Chad.
So it's CashATMs.
Real simple.
And it's actually going to be tomorrow.
We actually have our own little Facebook Lives.
We're going to announce the winners on.
It's perfect timing for this, Money Mondays.
So all you have to do is literally inside the actual...
I think it's in the bio, right?
It's a link.
Click on it.
It goes to our Instagram profile.
The results, the actual requirements are...
It's actually at the top of the description, right?
Super simple.
Click that link.
It's going to go to our Instagram profile, take a photo of that actual reel, post it on your story, enter in, and we're going to announce the winners tomorrow.
Two free ATMs.
That's it.
Nope.
There's no enrollment or anything like that.
It's going to be tomorrow.
You're going to see the names.
Nothing to lose, guys.
Might as well try.
Might as well, bro.
And you might start your business for free.
Whatever.
At the end of the day, right?
And a couple guys here I saw in the chat were saying, you know, hey, we got our cash ATMs, we're making money, etc.
So it definitely works, man.
And it's a unique business situation that I had never thought about until we brought you on the first time.
Bro, it's a boring business, man.
It's not sexy, man.
At the end of the day, it's just like, it's the It's like the plumber of freaking like just residual passive income.
It's a needed service.
You know what I mean?
It's a needed service that people look over.
It's not sexy like real estate.
You can be like, oh, I'm a real estate investor.
But all right, bro, how many units you own?
They're like, uh, you know, like I got one, you know?
So...
It is what it is, man.
For the equivalent of what you can invest in real estate, right?
You can invest that into ATMs and make tenfold straight up.
Just based on my experience.
Well, you can get it with a lot less capital, which is great.
A lot less capital.
Yeah, 10, 15K to get in with 10% of returns is really good.
You don't need a credit score.
Just put the money into it.
Pretty much learn the whole process.
You got to go to a bank.
But these guys, and then you're good to go.
Yeah.
It's complimentary too, right?
It's not competition.
That's what people think.
They're like, oh, we got to stay on this side.
We got to stay on this side.
No.
You can invest that cash you have right now, even in cash ATMs.
You get some extra cash flow.
That leads you to a higher loan approval to get a different property, like a duplex or a triplex now, right?
And then you might reinvest that in something else, right?
It's infinity banking at the end of the day.
Being diversified is very important, man.
It really is.
So, oh.
Man, that's interesting stuff.
I had some chats here, Chris.
All right, I'll read these and then we'll close out.
Chris Vision goes, 20 bucks.
I've been saving money from my overtime.
I've been working 60 to 70 hour weeks and want to get into real estate.
Is it not a good time to buy rentals?
When do you know it's the best time to start?
Start now, guys.
I'm telling you, all these big companies are buying up single family homes like crazy.
And if they're doing that, that tells you something.
Toxically Masculine goes, if you guys have a new startup coming, can I get in?
Currently military, USMC, H1 mechanic, and every fiber of my being understands the matrix will bleed me.
I want out.
Show me the way.
We just talked about it.
These chats came in from before.
Jason Colon, 50 bucks, set up my first ATM a couple of months ago by my second this week.
Thanks to FNF and ATMs together.
Shout out to you, Jason Colon.
So before you call it scam, ask questions first, guys.
Yeah, listen, guys, there's nothing wrong with some healthy skepticism.
You know, do your research, check out the Instagrams, look at the testimonials, etc.
But to me, right...
It's very important to be diversified.
You know, I'm not telling you guys, oh yeah, like just run to ATMs and not be in real estate.
Yo, be in everything.
Be in crypto.
Be in real estate.
Be in precious metals.
Have an ATM. Have a, you know, have obviously your business.
Like have different means of income.
So regardless of what happens, you're protected, man.
Being diversified is so important.
FreeAgent456 goes, Alex, interested in starting ATM business through your website while on child support.
Would that affect anything?
Would you break it down a bit?
Thanks.
Yeah.
So with that, put that business in somebody else's name because they're going to try to take you for that child support.
Clever.
Is it more beneficial to pay off collections or dispute the charge on my credit report?
It was made by family I no longer live with and I don't mind just paying.
Thanks for putting me on the right path.
Bro, if you have the money, just go ahead and pay it off so you don't deal with the headaches, man.
Yeah, bro.
Because once your stuff is in collections, it's bad.
But call the collection company and tell them, hey, can we negotiate?
This is all I have, bro.
This is all I got.
I want to pay it off, man.
But pay it off and get that shit off because once it's in collections, that's when your credit score tanks by like 200 points.
Anything else?
No, we're good.
Alright, so guys, I'll turn it to y'all, man.
I'll give y'all the last word.
And where can they find you guys as well?
Where can they find y'all?
Yeah, absolutely, guys.
So, you guys can find us at www.atmtogether.com.
Look, also check out our IGs.
Paul Alex Espinosa.
Get em Y. Get em Y. G-E-D-A-M-W-H-Y. There's a lot of scam profiles out there, guys.
Watch out.
And they're all below as well, guys.
Their Instagrams.
Sorry.
And then Mike.
And for me, you can find me on Planet Mike.
And I'm currently assisting Paul and Get Em, basically.
They're a right hand.
Our muscle.
There you go.
The muscle team.
Okay, cool.
So, guys, they're ATM together.
Check them out.
Their links are all below.
I think it's a fantastic side venture that you guys can do to make some passive income.
Dude, if you've got money saved up doing nothing, might as well versus, you know, having it in the bank and having a new value.
Assets.
Assets.
Yeah.
So...
We need magic.
Go $20.
I'm a 19-year-old college student with a 721 credit score.
I watched last time you were here and saved $2K for a cash ATM. I want to know if I should get a loan for a Bitcoin ATM and with profit pay off the loan.
Hmm.
What do you think?
Have y'all ever had someone do that?
So the question is...
So he said...
He watched last time you guys were here.
He saved $2,000 for a cash ATM. He said, I want to know if I should get a loan for a Bitcoin ATM and with profit pay off the loan.
So Bitcoin ATM is a little bit more, I guess, than a cash ATM. So I'm going to keep it real.
With your position right there, if you only have $2,000 to your name, you got to invest in yourself first, right?
Right.
Let's keep it real.
Get up.
Yeah, if you only have $2,000 in your name, invest in an actual marketable skill, start generating revenue, then start thinking about investments.
That's how I look at it.
This is something that you guys do once you have some capital built up.
You know what I mean?
Or you can start with a cash ATM and then work your way up if you want to.
But 2K, invest in yourself first.
Absolutely.
Absolutely, man.
All right, guys.
We're going to be back with an after hours here in about maybe an hour or so, hour and a half.
The girls, we're going to have a packed panel.
Yeah, full panel.
We'll catch you guys here in a little bit.
All their links will blow me.
Go check them out, guys.
We'll catch you on the next one.
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