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Alright, what's up guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Fit Podcast After Hours Edition.
We're joining a bunch of love ladies.
Let's get into it.
On time. On time.
Go.
Put your shoes on outside.
You don't got to put them on in here.
All right.
What's up, guys?
Welcome to the Fresh Shirt Podcast.
After Hours, this is your man.
It's Monday, and you guys know we are on our second episode of The Night, man, giving you all this content.
So a quick announcement for getting to show.
Number one, rumble.com slash freshandfit.
We're probably going to get canceled any day now, especially with this book coming out.
So go ahead and check us out on Rumble if YouTube decides to take us down or one of these other mainstream media platforms.
All our content is going to be there.
Also, we're going to be uploading all of the Andrew Tate videos that we had done on Rumble, all the interviews that we did, because YouTube is being lame, bro.
They were hitting us with age restrictions and taking videos down or whatever, or hitting them with strikes.
So anything that had Andrew on it, guys, they were trying to take down.
So what we're going to do is we're going to re-upload those videos all in their entirety on rumble.com/freshafit.
So look, stay tuned over there and I'll make announcements.
We'll drop like one video probably so you guys can digest it, enjoy it.
And then we'll put another one out for you because we've done a bunch of interviews with Andrew, but I didn't want to have to take them off YouTube, but you know, YouTube being as usual.
So also guys check us out on freshafit.locals.com.
As you guys know, behind-the-scenes content there, all the Patreon questions that you guys asked us before, all those videos are there.
Mo did a great job of putting them there.
So, yeah, over there, freshfit.locals.com.
Also, check us out on Megaphone, guys.
We are there.
If you want to listen to us, audio version only, just make sure you wear headphones if you're listening to us at a place of employment because you don't want to get called in by some Karen with short hair and get fired from your job.
All right?
And then also, guys, get the merch.
Let's see.
Chris don't got it ready.
Chris, let's show them the new shirt that came out.
Guys, frustratedpodcaststore.com.
You guys get all the merch.
Hoodies, t-shirts, new designs.
I'm still waiting.
What happened to, for example, Ninja Watchers?
Fiverr.
Fiverr.
I'm getting it soon.
You're getting the designs?
Okay.
The new shirt is out, guys.
Chris is a bum, as y'all can see right here.
It's Fiverr Chris, by the way.
Because Chris doesn't even show up to his job here.
So you guys got to check out this shirt.
Chris is a bum.
Would you even win a shirt yourself?
Depends.
Nah, you know.
His feelings are hurt.
The meme is alive, guys, so go ahead and get the shirt, man.
Chris is a bum.
$44.99 to keep all the bums from buying it.
Also, check us out on...
Fresh Fit Clips, guys, our other YouTube channel.
Can you just click it real quick?
Guys, Fresh Fit Clips is our channel where we drop six videos per day and four shorts, okay?
We are literally uploading 10 videos a day on this channel, man.
It's growing at a great rate.
Almost at 40 million views for the month.
But here's the thing.
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Take one second to go ahead.
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Help us get a million sign, get another golden plaque, and flex on all the haters.
All right?
And then what else do we got here?
Fresh, do you want to talk about your vlog?
Yes, guys.
Vlog channel is up.
We did a vlog of the car show on Saturday.
It's pretty dope.
Messing millionaires, billionaires over there as well.
Good for networking.
We did also as well a zoo date.
That was pretty dope.
But more importantly, we're going to do some vlogs in Dubai when we go on Thursday.
So check it out.
Coming soon.
200K on the way.
Let's go.
Yeah, we're going to collab with a bunch of...
UAE YouTubers, guys.
And then also on top of that, we got a very important mission.
We got to clear our boy Andrew's name.
Yeah, we got to.
We got to bring out some facts.
And then here's my channel, guys.
The last episode I did actually was right here explaining the wrath of Jodi Arias.
As you guys know, this girl stabbed her boyfriend 27 times and killed him.
After they had banged and took it to themselves doing so when he was in the shower.
So if you guys want to go ahead and check that out, timestamps are there.
As you guys can see, I go into detail about the case.
We react to the documentary, go over the evidence, the interviews, psychological breakdown of all her craziness.
She was doing headstands in an interview.
Really weird when she was getting interrogated for murder one.
Strange individual.
And I'll shout out to your co-host.
Shout out to Angie.
She was helping me out.
She actually was the one that suggested Jodi Arias, and people really enjoyed it.
And then I'm dropping another video on another crazy chick, Dahlia DePolito.
If you guys are here from Florida, approximately, what, almost 13, 12 years ago now, back in 2009, she went ahead and she was an escort.
She got married to her husband, who was rich, and then she hired a hitman to kill him.
Damn.
Did he actually die?
No, no, no, no, no.
But they ended up, they played it out like they hired the hitman and they caught her in the line.
She like fake cried and everything when they're like, your husband's dead.
Yeah, it's lit.
It's hilarious.
Yeah, you heard about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The police got her good, bro.
So that drops on Thursday, guys, if you guys want to see that one.
But in the meantime, watch the Jody Arias one.
I cover all types of different cases.
Serial killers, murder for hire, bank robberies, you know, all types of true crime stuff you guys like.
So subscribe to FEDA1811. But anyway, Chris, it's on you.
Yes, ladies.
It's M&DM and RC Poxon on IG. Make sure if you come on to our show, you know, dress on time.
I mean, be on time.
Dressed apart.
And yeah, send a DM and shout out to the girls for showing up on the panel.
Happy Valentine's Day.
I know some of the three or fours are getting dogged out.
You can say Valentine's Day.
Valentine's Day.
You're my Valentine.
All right.
Welcome, ladies.
So give us your name, your age, what we do for a living, dating status, and if you want to, of course, the body count.
We'll start right here.
Okay, so my name is Natalie.
People call me not, or not Ray.
I'm 22.
I'm a social worker.
Okay.
What was the other question?
Dating status.
Dating status.
I'm single.
Okay.
Where are you from?
I'm from here.
Born and raised in Miami.
Cool.
Wait, you said it was Megan?
Sorry, I'm writing it down now.
Nat.
Nat, okay.
Nat, and then how old are you?
22.
22.
You said for Miami?
Yes, sir.
Okay, and then you said social worker for profession?
Uh, yeah.
Okay, and then what's your dating status?
Single.
Okay.
Single, yeah.
And then high education completed?
Every night.
Highest education?
Bachelors.
Okay.
From where?
FIU. In what?
Social work?
In psychology and women's and gender studies.
Oh boy.
Okay, cool.
She came ready.
Oh yeah, she came ready.
Yes, sir.
Alright, what about you?
My name is Devine, but they call me Didi.
I'm a security guard right now.
How old are you?
I'm 21.
Okay, where are you from originally?
Yeah, I'm a Class D security guard.
Stop the gap.
Alright, where are you originally from?
Originally, I'm from Boston, but I've been down here for like 12 years.
Where'd you go to high school?
Plantation.
Okay, so I'll consider you from Florida.
Yeah.
Wait, you're really security?
Yes.
Who are you going to protect?
Oh, somebody.
Yo!
Okay.
Status?
Single, relationship, sugar daddy?
I am single.
Single?
Yeah.
And then, what's your highest education level completed?
High school.
High school?
Yeah.
Alright.
Cool.
Welcome.
Thank you.
What about you?
What's good?
I'm Rashida.
I'm 25.
Damn.
Okay.
That's all downhill from here.
Where are you from?
Philadelphia.
Philly all day.
Born and raised.
Like actually from Philadelphia or Drexel Hill?
Born and raised Philly.
Y'all already know.
Y'all see my face.
Y'all know it.
Did we pat her down, Zena?
I got these hands.
They the weapon.
You can't take these from me.
What part of Philadelphia are you from?
South Philly.
Oh, with the Italians?
Born and raised.
No, 23rd Street.
Oh, okay.
I guess not Italian.
Alright, let's see.
What do you do for it?
So right now I'm transitioning over into the Airbnb and I'm into my holistic medicine.
I have a holistic medicine line called Rashida's Moss.
That's my first name.
That's a really creative way to say you're unemployed.
Okay.
No, I'm not unemployed.
I'm actually doing really good in business, brother.
I'm a strong black woman.
I don't really play games.
And I'm empowering and I'm into holistic medicine when it comes to...
Like we don't clap, so you snap.
I'm all about bringing everybody back to their natural essence, mentally, physically, spiritually.
I come from the trenches.
I started off crazy.
And now I'm finding myself.
So I want everybody to do the same.
So you said, what is it?
You said it's beauty products?
No, holistic medicine, sea moss, herbs, moringa seeds, bladder rag, just helping people get their body.
Back to the earth.
Okay.
All right.
And then what's your status?
Single as fuck.
That's my violin time right there.
I want y'all to know that.
Shout out to Jazzy.
Okay.
Are you bisexual?
You can say that.
Okay.
No, you're not.
And then what's your highest education level completed?
Some college.
Okay, so I'll put high school.
Or do you have an associate's?
No, I didn't finish.
No, I skipped a semester.
All right.
What about you?
Hey, so my name's Ari.
I'm 22.
I'm born and raised in Florida, particularly in Sarasota.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
What did it work?
So right now, I'm actually a senior in college.
I go to USF. Okay.
I'm a content intern for the athletics program over there.
Okay, so you post all the sports stuff on the page?
Yeah, I'm a social media coordinator for them over there.
Okay, so you run all the athletic pages and everything like that?
Yeah, pretty much.
The advertising, hey, we got a game, check it out.
Okay, and then you said USF, what do you major there?
Mass communications and production.
That's lit.
Thank you.
And then what's your...
And then you're in college, so you're a senior right now.
And then what's your relationship status?
I'm in a relationship.
We're definitely working towards something.
Nice.
How long y'all been together?
I would say it's pretty fresh.
We used to kind of talk...
No, no, no.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Oh, sorry.
We used to kind of talk when we were kids.
I want to say, like, we were, like, freshly, like, 18, 19.
And I don't know.
We just kind of grew.
And now we just kind of found our way back to one another.
So it's been pretty cool.
Who initiated contact again?
He did, actually.
Did you have friends on him in the beginning?
Um...
Yep.
Or did he friendzone you?
I would say it's pretty mutual.
We were both pretty toxic to one another.
There's no such thing as mutual.
Someone friendzoned the other.
Someone did.
Someone had the leverage.
In every relationship, there's someone that cares a little bit more than the other.
I definitely agree with that.
Me too.
So who cared less?
You or him?
I think in the beginning, it was definitely me who cared less.
I think...
Dang.
Okay.
We didn't even start yet.
That's what I'm saying.
But I would say second round, I think he's falling for me a little bit more.
We'll see.
Out of curiosity, what made you give him a chance now versus you didn't give him a chance before?
It's not that I didn't give him a chance before.
I just think that our mindsets just weren't really in the right place.
What?
What do you mean?
I love how girls dress up rejection.
You know what I mean?
He did something clearly that was unattractive and then he reconciled or fixed it that made you attracted to him the second time.
He was broke, huh?
That's why he was in a friend zone in the first place.
No, he's definitely not broke.
No.
I just...
If we're going to be...
Well, he said was.
Was, was.
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
I would say I was definitely...
I think before that relationship with him, I was kind of...
I don't want to say maybe...
She belongs to the streets!
Yo!
Keep going.
Keep it real, baby.
Keep it real, baby.
Who did that?
Chris as usual.
I don't know.
I'm not going to go.
I'm not going to go.
I mean, I was freshly 18.
I had just gotten out of like a pretty toxic relationship and then I kind of like rushed into things with him and I don't know.
You wanted to explore some options.
It's okay.
It's okay.
In that moment, sure.
But I would say now we're definitely in a better place.
We get along.
We are very grounded with one another, I guess.
That's, I guess, a nice way to put it.
At least you got to me.
No, for real.
This is amazing.
This podcast is very important for y'all, man.
Girls will say things in a certain way and kind of dress it up in a certain way.
The reality is she wanted to live her best life.
He didn't measure up at that point for her to giving up living that best life.
Hence, later on, she was like, okay, you've improved now.
Or maybe I'm ready to settle down now.
And then she took him.
That's what happens a lot of times, which is cool.
But that's the narrative most of the time when guys get friend zoned.
We know what you want to say.
All right.
What about you?
What's your name?
My name is Selena, as known as Lena Blue of Lena Blue TV. And I'm 27.
Okay.
Where are you from?
Palm Beach, Florida.
Okay.
Uh-oh.
Palm Beach?
Are you...
Some college.
Okay.
Some college and I got a certificate in film.
Okay.
What do you do for work?
I'm a documentarian.
Okay.
What kind of documentaries do you make?
Man on people, on their lives.
Okay.
And then you said you didn't complete school but you got a certain film?
A certificate in film.
Okay.
And then...
I'm single.
Single.
All right.
I think that's it.
All right.
What about you?
Welcome.
Hey, y'all.
Hey, y'all.
Hey.
My name is Jasmine.
I'm 21 years old.
I just recently got accepted into a modeling agency, so now I'm a model, but I work from home and I'm also a security license, security officer.
Were you in security too?
Yeah.
Were you from originally?
I was born in Hawaii, city of Honolulu, but I was raised in Florida, Broward County.
Broward?
Okay.
I just gotta know, if someone breaks into that establishment, you gonna say, you know what?
Stop stairs, sir!
It's not what you think it is.
It's really not what you think it is.
So I work at Lone Depot Park, so like the Marlins Park, the baseball park.
Basically, it's wherever they station me.
So if they station me at the gate, all I have to do is just like...
Oh, you stand there.
Yeah, yeah.
You just stand there.
Are you single?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then, all right.
Yeah, I think that's pretty much it.
Oh, highest education level completed?
Are you in college?
I'm a college graduate.
I graduated from a technical college.
So you have your associate's degree?
Yeah.
Cosmetology.
Ladies, let's do one more round back this way, real quick.
Do you have a Valentine's Day person for tomorrow?
Well, person.
Yeah, she's right here.
Her.
No, no.
Seriously.
I'm serious.
It's her.
So tomorrow, you guys going out tomorrow?
Co-op is real.
Yes.
Okay.
Do you have one?
Mm-mm.
Why not?
I just don't.
I can't tell you why.
Okay.
What about you?
Yeah, I do.
You're a guy, right?
You're a new, fresh guy?
Yeah.
Okay.
When did y'all pick up and actually become together?
I want to say it was maybe like a month and a half ago.
We're taking it slow.
Just before Valentine's Day.
Interesting.
They got all the tunes for you.
And of course, you're going to say her, right?
Of course, Jazzy.
How'd you guys meet?
Today.
We met today.
Don't hate.
The sauce came just that serious.
She was saying she didn't have a valentine, so I was just like, I'll be around.
It has to be concrete from before today.
So that means you guys are not valentines.
We are.
But we are, though.
I'm taking her out tomorrow.
But you're not, though.
This is not real, though.
It is real.
Hold my hand.
Hold my hand.
It's very real.
What about you?
I don't.
Why not?
I would say personal reasons.
Huh?
Personal reasons.
Okay, give me one reason why you don't have one.
I would say because of me.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, so you messed it up.
Yeah.
Okay.
Alright, you know what?
Since you're on this accountability wave, name one thing you did wrong in the relationship to mess it up while you don't have a Valentine's and one thing he did wrong to mess it up.
Let's hear it.
Miss Security.
I would say I have to overthink your problem.
Oh, sorry.
My finger slipped.
What was that?
I have to overthink your problem.
Okay, so you thought like he was cheating or something like that and you kept accusing him of things that weren't going on?
Yeah, because he went without a couple hours of talking to me.
Wait, a couple hours?
Wait, wait, wait.
What, is this nigga sleeping?
What?
God forbid a couple hours.
Wait, how long was it?
Three hours?
Seven.
Oh, no.
That's OD. Was it overnight or during the day?
Because seven during the day is you up to something.
You ain't supposed to be at work.
That's what I'm saying.
If he was at work, then that's different.
Hold on.
You're supposed to be focusing on security.
Not your nigga for seven hours.
What if he fell asleep?
He was definitely on the game or at home.
Not doing anything.
I'd rather my dude on the game than out in the streets.
Wait, wait.
So is that a bad thing?
That's not a bad thing, but you can hit me up like reassurance to me is key.
As someone who works in security, this is probably one of the most insecure things I've ever heard.
Yeah, trust issues.
This is incredible.
Trust issues.
You can't make this stuff up, guys.
Bro.
She'll get through it.
Okay, and then so you, I guess, wanted more attention and you didn't get it for seven hours and you're like, fuck this.
And then what did he do wrong, I guess?
Besides fall asleep.
Somebody said, don't reassure me.
So you want reassurance every three hours, four hours?
At least, yeah, every three hours.
It's like a security cycle.
Every hour or so to go around this certain part of the building.
Goddamn, that's crazy.
What about you?
I do not.
You don't?
Why not?
I don't like anyone.
You want to be me and her?
Okay!
Emotional!
Damn it!
She's coming at home with me!
Okay!
Fantastic!
Just being honest.
No, it's the truth.
I've actually...
I'll get into that later on.
Hold on, we're not done yet.
Chris!
What's up?
Do you have a Valentine's?
Uh, hell no, man.
Keep it single.
From, man, me?
Flowers?
Chocolate?
Why do you have a Valentine's, Chris?
I don't do that shit, man.
Come on, man.
Do you have a Valentine's?
Nope.
Why not?
Because I'm working on the audible version of Why Women Deserve Less.
Yeah, that's what we're talking about, baby!
The book is out right now.
Paperback, guys.
And it's coming out on Audible.
It's out right now on Kindle as well, man.
And in the book, I actually go into detail that most women don't like most men.
Wow, women deserve less.
Yes.
You want to explain that, brother?
Because you are sitting in front of some queens right here.
Let us know, King, if that's who you are.
What type of women deserve less?
Women or what you mean?
King?
Read the book.
Yeah, read the book.
I go into, I explain how most women deserve less because most women don't like most men.
And that is exemplified from her answer.
And I go into more detail about how feminism and everything else changed the dating landscape and how most guys can't afford to be simps in 2020.
Are you referring to like new wave feminism or in the book at least?
Or...
I address all waves of feminism.
How it changed the dating landscape.
I respect your perspective.
What?
You wrote that book?
Yes.
Okay.
Good to know.
I'm pretty interested now.
No, for real.
I think I'm going to read that.
I think I'm going to read that.
Me too.
Well, if y'all want to see why you guys deserve less, feel free to pick it up.
Okay, real quick, I'll hit the chats.
Or no, didn't you have another question?
Yeah.
You're so funny.
Do you have one?
Valentine's?
No.
Why not?
Because it's going to cause me problems.
Because you got too many bitches on your line, don't you?
Everybody trying to be a Valentine.
No, no, no, no.
So you won't act like you don't got one, but all the time you got a whole bunch.
Tell the truth.
Look at me.
How is it going to cause you problems to look at me for me?
Okay, anyway.
Okay.
Continue on here.
Some chats here.
All right.
Do you have one for us?
That'd be Chris.
We're going to reverse.
I actually do, man.
And you know, this is the first time in my life I've had a Valentine's that I care about.
That's actually really awesome.
I can't wait to enjoy tomorrow, man.
Because you know what I'm saying, bro?
I've been doing this player life for too long.
So let me ask you.
As a man of God, I found...
Wow.
Let me ask you.
Huh?
So, what you got planned for your shorty?
The shorty.
You don't got a shorty?
Listen, man.
TMI. Alright, let's go.
Alright, ladies.
Your son F's your best friend.
What you doing?
Your son fucks your best friend.
My best friend is gay.
I mean, if you go both routes.
Yeah, I guess we could start here and there.
One at a time.
Come on, man.
Come on, bro.
That's weird.
That's close to incest, bro.
Moe, how do you have money to go to Vegas but none for your auntie in Haiti?
I'm too old to keep carrying this fruit basket on my head every day.
What the fuck, bro?
That's the most Haitian super chat I've ever seen in my life.
Oh, man.
What the hell?
Okay.
BlackWolfInkos, what's good, fellas?
To the gals, do you have guy friends?
Do you honestly believe he is your friend?
Let's say he asks you to help him hook up with a chick he likes.
How would you help him score?
By the way, mine's a beast.
Alright, so I guess we can...
Do you have guy friends and how would you help him get girls?
You want to...
That's a good question.
He has that every show, but that's fine.
Alright, we can ask it and then we can start right here.
Go ahead.
Keep the question up.
So the question is, do you have guy friends and honestly speaking, if you ask me to help him get a chick, could you help him?
I gotta go first again?
Okay, so...
Well, actually, she did start last time, right?
So we go this way.
Sure.
Thank you.
I have a couple of guy friends, yeah.
Um...
Do I believe they're my friend?
Yeah, I do.
So they don't want to smash?
Hell no.
I let that be known.
You might know that, but do they know that?
I let them know that, so they know that they don't have a chance.
But they might still want to.
Then they cut off.
Period.
Would I help them get with a guy, with one of my female friends?
I mean, depending if my female friend is single, yeah, and if he gives or not, I mean, regardless, I'm going to try to help him the best way I can, but if he don't give, he just don't give.
Only so much you can do.
Yeah, it's only so much.
How would you help them get that girl?
What would you do?
So, basically, what I would do, I would send them, like, I would send my homegirls their Instagram, and they just go based off that.
If they like what they see, they like what they see, and I take it from there.
Okay.
So, indirectly, just, here's Instagram.
Yeah, like, I'll show them them, and if they like what they see, I'll take it from there.
Basically.
That sounds like a good plan.
Yeah, I got male friends, but one in particular, yeah, I would help him.
Yeah, definitely.
If he likes somebody.
How?
I would help them just see what they're talking about and, you know, ask him, hey, what are you guys saying?
What are you guys talking about?
Send me screenshots, whatever.
And, you know, I'll let him know.
Even before he's talking to her, how would you help him get to the point where they're talking together?
I'd probably tell him, give him some pointers, tell him what to say, but I ain't gonna be all up in this game room and giving him everything.
You know, he just gotta be yourself.
I can't speak for him.
I can't speak for him.
I thought you would do a documentary.
Alright, what about you?
Honestly, no.
I feel that I'm sorry.
Unpopular opinion.
That's fine.
I definitely don't have guy friends anymore.
I feel that guys definitely, if it's not there in that moment, I mean, they will wait years, months, eternities to literally just, you know, get what they want.
I mean, I've been in a position where a guy has pretty much fronted to be one of my really good friends and he caught me in a very vulnerable moment and Not a friendship anymore.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
So he waited all that time?
It was almost like 10 years.
Yeah.
Like, met my family.
Like, we were really close friends.
Sounds familiar.
No, we hate it all the time.
Oh, well, yeah.
It was honestly, like, it was really, I don't want to say traumatizing.
I don't want to take it to that extreme, but it definitely changed my outlook on how I approach those kind of situations.
And me personally now stepping into a relationship, I mean, I wouldn't really want my man to have a lot of girlfriends.
Respectfully?
Yeah.
Okay.
I think it's a respect thing.
Maybe she can learn from you.
Do you think it's worse if a man has female friends or if a woman has female friends?
Both.
It depends.
Well, if you had to pick one, which one do you think is more counterproductive for the relationship?
Both.
I honestly think it's both.
Because it could go either way.
Yeah, it could go either way.
Can I say that?
Okay, so you can.
So you guys would say, okay, if you think it's equally as destructive for both genders, does that mean that you think cheating is the same between both genders?
Cheating is cheating at the end of the day.
So it's 50-50?
Yeah.
It's energy you exchange it.
So you guys think a woman cheating on her man is the equivalent to a man cheating on his girl?
Yes.
Okay, hear me out.
It has its differences because men, they will go to an extreme to ask, what position were you in?
Did you moan?
Did you do this?
Did you do that?
But at the end of the day, cheating is cheating.
You know what I mean?
Like, regardless.
Men really do that.
They be like, how he fucked you?
What you mean?
Come here and pause.
But you really think it is equal then?
That a woman cheating is just as bad as a man cheating?
Yes.
Depending on how strong that bond is and what y'all have together.
But depending on how they gonna take it, I think that dude gonna take it harder.
Do you think it's equal too?
A man is going to take it harder.
Do you agree with them?
I feel like I'm going to be the antagonist in this podcast.
I can't lie to you.
I really don't think it's the same.
Which one is worse?
I really feel that women cheating is a lot worse than men because, I mean, us as women, we're not really built to have just casual sex.
There is a type of intimacy that goes into that.
An emotional attachment.
There is an emotional attachment and there is a type of energy exchange between that.
Men don't have that.
Men can genuinely just have casual sex.
The way you connect with a man is through his head.
Now, which one you want to connect to, that's up to you.
But I'm just saying, with women, you can't...
In order to really protect your peace, I really feel like you can't just go out and genuinely just have casual sex and, you know, cheat on your man.
I do feel that it's something different.
Right.
As a female, like, I feel like...
Oh, you're changing now?
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not changing.
I'm just saying, like, to add more to her, like, as a female, you...
Females just don't go out and fuck anybody.
I mean, there is some females like that.
There is some females like that.
But there is some females, if they're going to cheat on their dude, they're going to build a bond with that dude before they cheat on their dude.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you're kind of contradicting yourself now.
I'ma keep it real.
It's just levels to this shit.
It all depends on how you cheat because you can be in love with somebody and when you go fuck, it's fireworks.
Then you go fuck somebody else and it's just the fuck.
It ain't no spark, no nothing.
You barely getting your nut off.
Real rap.
So at the end of the day, real shit.
Like...
Wait, how do you know that?
You can go because I done been in a long relationship where shit got rocky and I tried to make my nigga mad.
Like, I'm going to go fuck with another nigga.
I ended up telling the other nigga, like, look, I still love my other nigga.
So I'm going to have to see you later.
Like, because the sex wasn't the same as Spark.
But hold on, you a queen!
What you mean?
I am a queen, but I'm still straight and I'm from the hood.
Like, I'm from the trenches, bottom line.
But I'm still an evolving queen and I know who I am.
I guess I will ask you, don't you think that that mindset though is a little detrimental to your own personal growth?
Me personally, I grew from that already.
I will never ever try to move on Fast.
For any immature reasons.
When I know that's not going to help me move on.
So I just...
But that's when I was like 18.
You know, immature shit.
You trying to do little shit to make the person mad.
Trying to move on.
Help your own feelings.
The whole time you got to sit with your shit.
So you didn't even really want to do it.
You did it more for...
Revenge purposes.
No, I did it for me.
Personally, I don't know how much information I need to be putting out here.
What was the reason you did it for you, though?
It sounds to me like it was in spite of him.
I'll be honest.
I had a miscarriage.
My nigga ended up dipping, low-key.
We broke up for a month.
I moved on, got like three jobs.
Really focused on me, because once I lost my baby and everything, that meant a lot to me.
And then the main nigga dipped.
I moved on.
And then after working three jobs, I got bored and was like, I'm going to hang out with somebody.
So I picked a nigga that was a chosen one in my eyes.
But you were single at this point, though.
So is it really cheating?
It was when that nigga came back.
He was cheating.
If he left you and then you went and found another guy, is it really cheating?
But a lot of times, you know, logistics don't matter all the time when feelings involve.
You can be logical as fuck, but...
It's how I feel.
That's what the fuck matter.
And it's vice versa.
So you can be logical, but it's love.
You know what?
You a strong black queen.
Okay.
All right.
So you guys still think it's equivalent.
Well, you three think it's equivalent where a woman cheating on a man is the same as a man cheating on a woman.
I guess it depends on the context.
And then you think it's not the same.
And then what about y'all?
And then we'll go back to the original question.
You think it's the same between a woman cheating and a man cheating or is one worse?
I feel like cheating is cheating.
You think it's equal as well?
Yeah.
Okay.
What about you?
I think cheating is cheating, you know, same thing, but I just think it kind of like the extent of it just kind of like affects us differently.
Like women, I feel they feel like it's cheating, cheating when it's like emotions involved versus like men are like, you know, Let's say, like, I don't know, like, a woman's, like, looking at some dude, like, whatever, like, I don't know, like, that sort of thing.
It's, like, whatever, but if it's, like, if you go all the way with a guy, like, I feel like that really affects the guy.
You're so right, like, I thought that was, like...
I mean, but, okay, so do you still think it's 50-50 then?
I mean...
I mean, cheating is cheating, yeah.
Like, you know, if the girl cheats, if the guy cheats, like, whatever.
Cheating is cheating.
But it's just, like, I feel like we have different...
Men and women have different definitions of cheating, if that makes sense.
That's true.
Like, always, I think to myself, like, it's gonna work that way, but never works that way.
Like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm saying.
It depends on, like...
Okay, very interesting.
So most of you think that cheating is equivalent between the genders.
Only one of you thinks that it's worse for the woman, which is very interesting.
What do you think?
Go ahead.
Well, we should answer the first question before I go into that.
The Black Wolfings question originally.
So she was talking about men and women being friends.
Alright, so the question is, do you honestly believe...
If he's your friend?
Yeah, do you have guy friends?
And then do you believe he is your friend?
I have guy friends.
I'm really strict with them because like you have been through things with, you know, trusting somebody as a friend next thing you know.
They backdooring you.
Okay, so backdooring like trying to have sex?
Trying to fuck.
They just catch you and just...
So by her answer, she doesn't believe that they're just a friend.
I keep it really real with my homeboys.
I let them even know, listen, if you try to come on to me, I'm going to play the shit out to you because I'm telling you right now, don't go outside boundaries.
If I'm telling you all I want is a friendship and I look at you as a brother and a king, don't show me you ignorant and stupid and think I'm any fling.
All right, let's say he likes a girl.
How would you help him hook up with her?
You know, a lot of people...
I got a nice demeanor about me where I attract beautiful women.
So I would just stand next to him.
Period.
Oh, wait.
If he liked the female.
Oh, I would probably get to know her as like, oh, let's go out and catch her vibes and see what type of vibe she would link with him.
And then I would...
And then I would have everybody come together.
We would all go out together.
And I would kind of have my own person with me and then let them vibe and talk and ease in.
So you would try to set up a group date?
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, would it be fair to say that women behave differently when they're talking to women versus when they're talking to men?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So would that be a real good gauge of her personality with you hanging out with her versus your guy trying to hang out with her?
I mean, it all depends on the situation.
And I'm trying to think of my own scenario.
So, like, yeah, that's the best way I would do it.
Because if he don't got his own game, and you looking for my game, you got to go with my flow.
It's not up to you no more.
You don't have your own game.
Okay.
What about you?
What would you do?
Do you have guy friends?
And do you think that they're actually your friends?
I'm not gonna lie.
I have certain guy friends that tries to, like she said, backdoor, like, try to maneuver and get, like, sneak their way into doing stuff.
Yeah.
I have other guy friends I also understand, like, it's not gonna be that, so.
So, no, are they really your friends?
No.
No.
I believe if a dude who say he your friend and you be like, yo, he like, yo, I look at you like a sister.
If you come to, I think at one point, if you be like, I'm trying to fuck, he might smash.
That's just facts on facts.
So that means he's never really your friend.
No, he could be a friend.
No, he could be a friend, but then again, I don't know, like, maybe...
He could be a friend with the shit.
No, no, think about it.
Logically speaking, what is a friend?
It's platonic, right?
So if he has any inclination of wanting to smash you, he's not really your friend.
I just did my friend, his name, the Keenan system.
He gets like millions of views.
He asked me a question.
Do you think guys and girls can have platonic relationships?
And one thing that stood out was as a single woman and him being a single man, we are friends and we know we'll never cross those boundaries.
But I think once you're in a relationship and you're trying to have other outside platonic relationships, You know what I'm saying?
It's like, what can that girl do for you that I can't?
Why are you stepping outside of boundaries and stepping into the...
Who is this girl?
She need to be my friend.
That's how I'm moving.
Because if I'm moving with you, you're supposed to be my husband in the future.
Bottom line.
Would it be fair to say that a guy having a female friend is fairly useless when he has a girl?
It depends on the situation.
Who's the girl?
What's her mindset?
How's she moving?
You just said that if your guy has a girl that's in her life, why does she need him?
No, no, but you're contradicting yourself.
You said, why does he need her when he has you?
Yes.
That's a good point.
But I'm also thinking about the industry, too, because when you're working in the industry...
But we're speaking in general.
If he has a girl, would it be fair to say that women are useless as friends?
When a man has a woman?
Yeah.
Yes.
Thank you.
That's going to go feed into my point that I make here in a second.
But, okay.
What about you?
Nigga, please.
With, like, how I'm gonna help him?
Yes.
Yeah, get a girl.
Yeah.
I would say, I would tell him, like, be yourself.
Like, don't do too much.
Like, I would say, observe her energy.
Okay.
The more you around her, the more, like, you'll realize, like, how she carries herself.
So I would say, just do that.
Okay, would it be fair to say that women put on a front when they meet a man?
I'm not gonna lie, yeah.
There are certain women that tend to, like, not show their true colors when they first meet a man.
Would it be fair to say that most men are socially retarded and can't detect that?
So is your advice really practical?
Just be yourself and figure out if she's useless when most guys don't have the social aptitude to do that?
I'm not gonna lie, I'm like a 50-50 type of person, so it's like...
Someone paid $20 for a question.
Yeah, that 50-50 thing.
Okay.
I thought she was gonna say close the gap.
Yeah, what about you?
The question was, it was like three questions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically, do you have guy friends and are they really your friends?
I do have guy friends.
I actually think I have some more guy friends than girlfriends.
Yeah, absolutely.
And like, you know, they're boys.
And would I help them get a girl that they liked?
Absolutely.
I have in the past.
What would you do?
Depends on the scenario, like how they know the girl, whatever.
Like if we're at a function or something like...
I might, like, hype them up or something like that, like, a little bit with the girl.
Like, I also, like, gotta check her energy, too, like, a little bit, because, like, that's my friend at the end of the day.
So, like, I just want to make sure that, you know, they click, you know what I mean?
Why do you prefer to hang out with men over women?
I don't think it's necessarily a preference.
Like, it just kind of happens.
You said you have more guy friends.
Yeah, but it just kind of happened.
It's not necessarily a preference.
I mean, your actions dictate that it's a preference.
My actions, they kind of, I mean, it kind of just happened sort of thing.
Like I don't go out looking for guy friends.
It just kind of happened.
But I'm saying like, okay, so why do you have mostly guy friends, not female friends?
Okay, to be 100% honest, so in college, I was in...
I already know the answer, but it's fine.
Continue.
Do you?
Yeah.
Okay, we'll see about that.
So in college, I was in Greek life, and whatever, I was in a sorority.
I was close with some guys in a frat or whatever.
And what was that?
What was that all about?
Okay, so anyways.
No, I just like...
Like, friends in my sorority kind of just, like, came and went sort of thing.
But, like, you know, I guess, like, my friends in the frat were kind of just, like, consistent, like, the whole time, like, throughout my whole time in college.
And, like, it just kind of played out like that.
It's really not...
You know what I think when you say sorority?
Choo-choo!
Like...
Went right over my head.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm sure it did.
All right.
Um...
Anyway, so continue on.
So you said that they just were more consistent with offering value throughout your life versus your sorority sisters.
I wouldn't say all sorority sisters, but yeah.
Comparatively speaking, the men offered you more value than the women.
Hence why you kept the relationship going with them versus the girls.
Define value.
What do you mean by value?
You said they were consistent.
Well, they were consistent.
They were authentic with me.
Do you just mean maybe they provided a different perspective?
Um...
Maybe.
I feel like it's just like, I guess, Greek life and gender.
Okay, let's look at this more objectively because you're using your feelings too much.
When people are friends with each other, it's a value exchange.
Period.
When you want to admit it or not.
They give you something, you get something in return.
It could be laughs, it could be good relationships, it could be good conversation, whatever it is.
There's always a value exchange.
Otherwise, there's no need to be at the trading post between the two parties.
So essentially, by your actions, what you're saying is the men offered more utility and value to you versus the women and they were more consistent in doing so.
Hence why you maintain those relationships and not the others.
Sure.
Okay, so back to that utility that we're talking about, you said they were more authentic.
Authentic in what regard?
Authentic, like, I don't know, like, if I met someone and, like, they didn't fuck with me like that, like, that's fine.
Like, they made it, like, I guess not, like, obvious or, like, whatever, but, like, it was known, you know what I mean?
I feel like, at least from my personal experience, like, not all sororities are like this.
Like, I guess I met some girls that, like, weren't, like, they guess, like, I don't know, they had, like, some sort of ulterior motive.
How long have you been out of college?
A year?
A little over a year.
And you still maintain contact with the frat brothers, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Some of them are in my close friend group.
Okay, real quick.
Who else here prefers male friends over female friends?
Okay, so half the table prefers male friends.
Okay.
Interesting.
All right.
And then, sorry, were you saying something else?
No, not really.
That was awesome.
Good job.
Here's my take on female friends.
Women don't offer much value, I'll be honest with y'all, from a friendship perspective.
And the reason why men typically tolerate being your friend is for some desire and hope for sexual access in the future.
That's the reality.
My brothers tell me that shit too.
Because the reality is, as you said it already for me, women don't offer much value outside of a relationship.
So if you have a girlfriend, having female friends a lot of times is not beneficial to you at all.
But women benefit a lot from keeping guy friends around because you get...
Masculine energy, good leadership to a degree.
Sometimes they'll even pay for hangout sessions.
They'll give you rational advice.
You can be yourself and not to worry about feelings and all this other bullshit.
So I've noticed that a good amount of women prefer to have guy friends, but that's because when men deal with each other, well, when men deal with each other or when they deal with women, they understand they must bring value versus when you deal with another woman, women are used to not bringing any value, to be honest with y'all.
And I would argue that most women bring value, but most of their value to the man that they love, admire, and respect.
Versus a guy that's in a friend zone.
To get the best out of a girl, she's got to be your girlfriend.
Damn, that was deep.
Do you disagree?
Kind of, a little bit.
What do you disagree with?
Um...
I mean, I guess the part where, like, women are, um, what was the word you used?
Useless?
That, like, female-female friendships, like, are kind of, like, useless?
Like, that sort of thing that they don't, like, provide any value?
Women are useless to men in a friendship context.
Oh, in a friendship context.
Yeah.
Okay.
Like, I guarantee you, I don't want to sound like an asshole, the guys probably offer you more value than you offer them in return.
I'm willing to bet my left testicle because men are okay with being friends with women, right?
Men are okay with being friends with women because maybe in the back of their mind is like, I can get laid with this girl at some point.
It's hardwired into us where we want to protect and provide for women, even if they're in a platonic situation.
Like guys are just designed to want to protect and provide for girls.
So they bring value off it when they deal with women.
This might backfire on me later, but I'm gonna keep it real.
I'm not every woman.
So, and I know a lot of women can't really offer anything because some women mindsets, you know, a lot of us not, I'm going to talk about the minority.
A lot of us not really raised around good influences, right?
So a lot of women, especially from my hood where I grew up for real, you know, they focused on niggas with money.
I need a nigga with money.
All I got to do is look bad.
But they don't really realize that's not really making you bad.
That's not making you a beautiful woman.
It's about being independent.
It's about adding, not only to yourself, but putting into others.
It's not just about looking beautiful, bad and bougie, and knowing the little slings here and there and knowing the songs that's out.
Like, honestly, I don't respect that when I hear a man say, woman really is useless because you just messing with useless women.
You more intimidated of a woman who's strong, who can really go get it on her own, who really got the muscle.
See, all the women that got the muscle is looked at as alphas, who's looked at as the man who is alphas, look at the other alpha females as, oh, you don't need nobody?
Fuck you, them bitch.
You got it on your own.
So then y'all gonna get them air-hit ass bitches y'all talking about.
The women that actually deserve less.
Not the queens.
You feel what I'm saying?
So, y'all talking real reckless, but y'all ain't giving y'all props to the real woman.
That actually can help market your brand.
Who actually can help put food in your mouth.
Who actually is going to remember, let me get him these cute-ass boxes and briefs that look really good on him.
Who going to actually come take care of you.
Who going to actually make sure you good.
How was your day?
What happened at work?
Let me help you add something to the fucking pot.
But is a woman that's a platonic friend with a man going to really do all that?
Honestly, I'm a real one.
And I go hard for everybody I love.
And at the end of the day, if the other person that I'm with, family, friend, is jealous, they're going to have to take that L because I'm pure.
So if I know I can offer you something to help elevate you, I'm going to do that.
Bottom line.
So if you insecure...
Miss your blessing.
That's it.
You said at the top of that speech that this is a minority, correct?
You said at the beginning...
My statement, brother.
Yeah, it knows your speech.
Whatever it was.
Don't let him throw you off.
Just vibe.
You need to tone it down a little bit.
I'm speaking facts.
Okay, that's cool.
But what I'm saying is that at the beginning of your speech or statement or whatever you want to call it, you went in to say this is a minority.
Okay?
And by you saying that this is a minority...
I was talking...
I was targeting...
Mainly because I see myself as a black woman.
I'm diverse.
I'm half Asian and black.
But when I speak on minority, I mean people that I see.
You said minority of women are like this.
Then you went on to say...
I said I'm speaking about minority.
Did you specify it was race?
I don't remember you saying race.
You just said this is a minority.
Minority as in people that wasn't really given a golden spoon.
Knowledge.
What I mean is influence.
A good role model.
I ain't really here to be I'm a real one.
That's all I'm gonna say.
Okay.
Let's say you are a real one.
Let's say that you are different.
What I say is what I mean.
Okay, that's cool.
You feel what I'm saying?
But here's the point.
Most girls aren't like that.
Most girls don't add value.
Most girls don't do the things that you're saying that you do.
And I agree.
Do you know most girls?
Bro, I'm not excited from what you're saying.
I'm just saying there are other women.
I'm speaking about the other women.
But you're talking about a minority of women that is statistically insignificant.
Yeah.
Damn, that's fucked up.
We all deserve it.
What?
We all deserve it.
Just because they're not given the opportunity to really learn what being a real woman is like, they can learn.
Most don't want to.
Do they want to learn?
That's on them.
Well, okay, let's not operate on what we think or what we feel.
Let's operate on what's real.
Most women don't care to be good platonic friends with guys because there's no...
Why should they if they're getting what they want anyway without having to work for it?
Facts.
Most girls get everything on a platter, especially if they're attractive.
So why the hell are they going to work for something they don't have to?
Human beings are lazy creatures inherently.
So they're going to do whatever they need to do to get whatever they want and do the bare minimum.
So somebody else has something?
That was a great speech.
That was a great speech, too.
I mean, it had nothing to do with the conversation.
I'm not disagreeing what you said.
I was just putting on my perspective as well.
Adding on to it, because I'm never going to discredit you, but how I feel is how I feel.
Yeah, you got to remember that.
How you feel versus what's real are two different things.
It's real, because that's my world.
Okay, but we got to operate on how the real world goes, not just off of your personal experience, right?
Because if you go off of just your personal experience, well, unfortunately, that's a very nuanced and specific experience that might not reflect the reality of the world.
You're saying, well, I'll do this for my guy friends, I'll do that.
But I can say that about you.
Most girls won't.
What?
I can say that about what you're saying too, though.
I'm being fairly objective, though.
That's the difference.
I'm speaking in generality.
I'm more empowering when it comes to empowering.
I'm more empowering.
Yes, I am.
Yeah, but you're speaking about a very specific instance of a minority.
I'm speaking in general.
I'm not speaking from my own specific experience because speaking from your own specific experience Right?
It's not a good move, especially when you're a minority, which is why I don't attribute how the world works to my personal experience.
I'll give you an example.
I'm not going to sit here and say, world hunger doesn't exist just because I never have to worry about that.
It does exist regardless of my socioeconomic income in the United States.
Because I'd be foolish to say, well, world hunger doesn't exist because I don't experience it.
That's quite what you're saying right now.
I felt like you was just forgetting about the woman that actually worked hard out here and actually can put something to the table.
It's a minority.
No, you trying to flip what I was saying and use it to your own advantage.
You literally said it was a minority.
You trying to flip what I was saying and trying to use it to your own advantage.
So you're not trying to let me explain what I was saying, so I'm going to let you run the show.
Go ahead.
I don't need the attitude, man.
I'm really keeping it real because you're trying to...
If I'm speaking on the minority...
Hold on.
It's okay to speak on the minority, but keep it respectful.
I warned you before the show, right?
I'm speaking respectfully.
You called her brother three times.
He's not your brother, right?
He's a host of the show.
So keep it respectful.
And they're talking about women who are dessert.
I know.
I know.
Just relax.
I told you to take a deep breath.
Just relax.
Just relax.
See, the difference is that I can back up why I'm saying why women deserve less.
It's in my book and I go into excruciating detail about different things as to why most women deserve less.
I'm not using my personal experiences, which is a minority, and try to say, oh, this is how the world works.
That's ridiculous.
That's a solipsistic view.
That's crazy.
I know it's crazy.
Because that's not what I'm saying, but I'm going to still let you say it because that's it.
I'm not going to re-explain when y'all keep switching up what I'm saying.
We were listening very close to what you said.
You started it off with, not all girls are like this, and this is a minority, XYZ. Because you guys are talking about women who are just for looks, can't bring nothing to the table in platonic relationships, and how women are useful in platonic relationships, how they can only get what they want from the relationship.
And all I'm saying is that just made me think of a woman who's just full of looks and thinks she's just deserving because of how she looks, not what she can actually bring and provide to the table.
What is the modern woman today?
Instagram.
That is a modern woman today.
You actually even said it yourself earlier.
A modern woman?
You literally said it earlier.
Why is he going to a girl when I'm here?
She can't offer nothing that I don't offer.
Why are you friends with chicks?
You said it yourself.
But what if you're single, though, and you have other friends?
Like, come on.
I don't know what you're saying right now.
I'm confused.
It's fine.
We'll move on.
I just think if you take your personal emotions and your personal experience out of the equation, you'll start to kind of see it from a more broader perspective.
I could see that because I don't want to talk down on all women saying they just can't bring that to the table.
We're being realistic.
That's how you feel.
Oh, I don't want to talk about other women.
The reality is most women, like modern, are like that.
I'm not saying all women.
Most, most, most.
We didn't say all.
We said most.
No.
Yeah, we're very specific in saying most.
Most.
And we date women daily, so it was like, bro.
Yo, woman power all day.
I love y'all.
Ain't you in a relationship?
You date women daily?
I love you, ladies.
Listen, man.
In spirit.
I'm not a man.
As a man of God, I'm doing spirit.
I don't want you.
Wait, wait, wait.
Sorry.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Cut cameras.
Cut cameras.
What you just said?
Say what you just said again.
What'd you just ask him?
He in a relationship.
He said he date women every day.
And what did you just say?
With God.
Relationship with God.
Nah.
What'd you say?
I'm a man of God.
I told you that.
That's not what you said, though.
Exactly.
But they stuck on what I said.
Now you contradicting yourself.
How?
Because you didn't really answer her question.
Of course.
Because this is their show.
You feel me?
They controlling it.
Anyway.
Okay.
I'm confused.
Okay.
We'll go to a slide for Larry.
W Fresh.
Okay.
Fresh Jones.
Question for ladies.
What does it mean to be a woman?
Oh, God.
No, we're not going to get into this conversation.
No, why don't we?
Are we going to get a woman here?
No.
We're going to go down.
No.
Moving along.
What was that?
Somebody said something about what?
Against women?
Are we against what?
I'm going to say it calm because I was clearly hype early.
Are we against women over here?
Let's do that.
I think that's a great question.
You know, because I'm a woman.
I can't really sit here.
If I get kicked out for standing up for women, all right, y'all.
I love y'all.
Women power.
Here's the thing.
This isn't about being against women.
It's about acknowledging that there's biological differences between the two genders, and the difference is that we go ahead and highlight the biological differences in men that are negative, which is cool, the unflattering, but we never highlight the unflattering realities of biological differences between women.
For example, what I said before, most women are useless from a friendship utility sense because most of the time the guy's the one offering the value.
The girl doesn't offer any value, but the guy sits there and tolerates that because they want some sexual access in the future.
And a couple of girls agreed with me on that.
And by their own actions, you might not like what I'm saying, but your actions reflect what I'm saying is true.
No, it's not that I don't like it.
Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off.
It's not that I don't like it, I just happen to disagree.
But go on.
Your actions are literally doing what I just described.
You prefer to hang out with men because they offer you more utility and value by your own words than the women do.
No, but I'm disagreeing with the point that you're making about that women are useless to men in platonic relationships.
They are.
Okay, well, I would disagree.
But why do you think that?
No, no, no.
Quick question.
What value did they add to that guy?
What value do I add to our friendship?
That sort of thing?
I mean...
I'm gonna wait.
You can crick it all you want.
I can bring the authenticity.
I bring the laughs.
I bring the good times.
I'm always a good time.
I always go out with the homies.
And I just like Like, I don't know, like I keep the vibes going.
Something tangible?
Notice how nothing you mentioned is something that another guy can't provide.
Okay, define tangible then.
For example, right?
Let's say you're out with a guy.
Security.
If you're walking around, someone's talking to you, he's next to you, that's tangible security.
I'm just saying, for example, everything is up in the air.
And it could be replaced by a guy.
So what we tell guys is don't be friends with girls.
Have male friends.
It's better for you as a man versus having a female friend.
Female friends really don't help you like that.
And let's say, for example, I take what you said seriously.
Why not do it with my girl?
That way we can have great times, great experiences, and fuck.
Mm-hmm.
The reason why we incentivize men to be platonic friends with women is because we live in a society now where we put women up on a pedestal and we put men down.
But what I'm saying is that it's not in your best interest as a man to be platonic friends with a woman.
And a couple of you guys agree with me, and your actions reflect that.
So I don't know what the issue is.
It's just that you might not like the way I'm saying it or you might not like the, you know, cold hard undertones of why it's useless to have female friends.
But the reality is your actions reflect what I'm saying.
I don't know what about me is indicating that I don't like it, but it's not that I don't like it.
It's just that I disagree based off my personal experience.
But you can't refute my point.
And your point is that I don't bring anything like tangible.
You want to talk about something tangible?
I get my friends free drinks.
I'm not saying you personally.
I'm saying in general, women don't offer men much utility in friendships that they can't otherwise get from a male.
I feel like we could bring emotional sensitivity.
That sort of thing.
Guys don't know how to be emotional.
I don't think so.
I talk to my friends about what they're going through all the time that they don't want to talk to their guy friends.
And that's something for them.
That's not something that everybody can find.
So you're a therapist?
I mean, that's what I'm studying to do.
Okay.
Okay.
I think it's a mistake for men to be vulnerable around women, but that's my personal take on it.
You're allowed to have that take?
Huh?
You're allowed to have that take?
Yeah.
I mean, there's a bunch of reasons why, but women typically don't treat men that are emotional very well.
That's a lie.
Can I ask you a question?
That's not even right.
Can I ask you a question?
Do you have female friends?
No, it's a waste of time.
But, like, the girls that work here, like, are they your friends?
They work.
Yeah, they work.
No, I'm talking to him.
Are they your friends?
Well, they work for us.
They're associates, yeah.
Business associates.
But that's not, like, a friend.
I wouldn't consider them.
So what do they bring to the table?
They bring drinks, Hennessy, vodka.
That's business.
Well, it's a business relationship, so it's mutual.
There's a mutual benefit.
So, like, really, like, what's the difference between, like, a business relationship and, like, a friendship?
What?
Well, a friendship, you'll hang out with them and say, hey, I'm going to go see the movies, you should come with me, blah, blah, blah.
So you guys don't do that?
You guys don't go out and have, you know, like, business parties?
No.
Not really.
Hang out?
Even if we do, it's still a business fun show.
If it's a team meeting for business, yeah, but other than that, no.
It's not that much of a difference in my eyes.
What do you mean?
It's not.
A friend you go with randomly, hey, let's go to the bar or whatever.
Nigga, we're going to do work.
It's under the context of business relations for the business.
Can I say something?
I'm sorry there's not women in your life that makes you think otherwise.
Yeah, man, who hurt you, man?
Yeah, like, I'm sorry there's not women in your life that makes you really believe in women and the power that we hold within ourselves.
I'm sorry you ran into a lot of people who's lost and who's still trying to find themselves to the point where they can't even put into you.
Can you tell me what this power is that you speak of?
Power?
What?
I'm asking you, can you define what this power is that you speak of?
I mean, who asked for your opinion anyway?
Power?
Yeah, the power that you referred to.
You said, I'm sorry that you didn't get to experience the power that women provide.
Meaning everything that you're saying, we lack in from the majority of women that you've met because it's all off your experience.
Well, actually, I'm basing it anecdotally on literally talking to thousands of men that have been friend zoned by women and not got anything in return.
Well, that's the difference.
I'm not just speaking out of my ass here.
I've spoken to thousands of men and we talk about this, how most of the time when guys are in a friend zone, they want something more, but they never get it.
Meanwhile, they're offering all this value to the girls and not getting reciprocation.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck, nigga.
Next.
It's gotten to a point now where women are able to monetize on men that are friends with women.
If you look at OnlyFans, strip clubs, the sex industry, everything, women have basically been able to sell the allure of sex or intimacy and monetize it to a really profitable margin.
Billions of dollars.
And that's the next level when it comes to girls' friendzoning guys.
But in general, most women don't like most men and it's an opportunity for them to make quite a bit of money.
A girl just being friends with a guy and putting him in the friend zone is a microcosm of the bigger problem.
Women leverage sex for resources, and they've been doing it for a long time, and they're getting away with it.
I'm just calling it out.
Hey, most women are useless from a friendship standpoint.
Stop being a simp.
Because all the things that a woman provides, this power that you speak of, can be met with a guy that can have a better identity with your struggles as a man, can actually offer you more utility, give you sound advice, and they understand the male experience.
Men and women live different experiences.
Completely.
Men have to be in reality.
Women get the privilege of being delusional.
No offense.
I love how you looked at me.
I mean, I was just looking around because...
I'm here for you, though.
Let me give you an example of how women are grounded in reality.
Earlier.
Your actions literally personify what I just described.
Yet, when I described it in detail, right, and it didn't sound a certain way, your immediate response was, I disagree with that.
Then I said, refute what I said.
And you couldn't because your own actions, right, align with what I said.
Women don't offer much utility as friends.
Therefore, I have more guy friends, which is exactly what I said.
But, hold on.
Okay, go ahead.
But, what I said and how I said it, you didn't like it and you said, I disagree.
But it makes no logical sense because what I described is literally your life.
But the thing is that, like, you see it as, like, what I bring to the table, like, I guess, like, when it comes to female-male friendships, I see it as valuable.
A lot of people can see it as valuable.
You don't.
You don't see it as, like, a utility.
You don't see it as something useful.
Maybe that's something you don't need, but, you know, not every guy is like that.
Like, if you don't value what I have to offer, that's fine.
Don't worry about it.
But someone else will.
The problem is that you keep bringing it to yourself.
I'm speaking in general.
Because I can never speak for all women.
All women are different.
I'm not going to generalize.
That's how the world works, is generalizations.
The world works based off statistics and that kind of stuff.
I wouldn't necessarily say generalize.
Well, if you want to talk about generalizations, then you can talk about stereotypes.
And then they say that stereotyping is bad.
Stereotypes are rooted in reality.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
They're there because it's pretty much there's established behaviors that have been attributed to a certain group or class of people that have been done a million times.
So therefore, it's a trend and people use stereotypes and attribute it to a certain class of people.
And that's how it is.
We're human beings.
We don't have time to get to know everybody.
What's your life like?
Etc.
They just judge a book by its cover.
So why do we generalize it?
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a heuristic.
That's what it is.
So stereotyping is rooted in reality.
It might be rooted in some reality.
It's like how you said, anecdotal kind of stuff.
You make stereotypes based off anecdotes or whatever your experience is with different people, but that's all it is.
Anecdotes.
And at the end of the day, if you look at statistics, anecdotal evidence, or just science in general, anecdotal evidence isn't enough to make a statistic or to make something true.
It's just not.
True, but then you have a bunch of data that you can use and that will stop.
The point I'm trying to make is that generalizations and stereotypes exist for a reason.
They're typically rooted in reality.
Because you're saying, you're generalizing!
Well, generalization is how the world works.
For example, if you go on a computer, most mouses are for the right hand, correct?
Why is that?
Well, one is because, yeah, a lot of people, most people, I think, like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
Most people in the world are right-handed.
Hold on, stop.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're trying to be politically correct.
The reality is most people are right-handed.
Left-handed people don't represent enough of a majority of the society to make a change.
That's how the world works.
We go off of what is the majority.
Most people are right-handed.
Therefore, most mouses are right-handed.
Most guns are designed for right-handed people because most people are right-handed.
That's the way the world works.
I was gonna get to my second point.
One part is because, yeah, like, a lot more, I think more people are right-handed.
And I said, correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know the actual statistic, and I'm not gonna sit here and spew, like, lies and label them statistics, you know what I mean?
They are.
It's the truth.
That's a fact.
But another fact is the fact that, like, Throughout history, people that have been left-handed have been forced to write right-handed because it's seen as a bad thing, like a bad omen, a bad thing, like whatever it is, depending on the culture.
So they force them to use their right hand.
So at the end of the day, it's about, I guess, society, how we see things.
We're not talking about the why, we're talking about the what.
Most people are right-handed, that's a fact.
It's a relevant why.
Okay, sure.
I can agree with that.
Absolutely.
But that's part of it, too.
You're moving the goalpost here.
We're talking about what is a fact.
We're not talking about the why.
What, not why.
Okay.
Word.
I hear you on that.
Okay.
Does anyone else have something?
I would say move off facts, not personal opinion.
And that's where I'm noticing that everything that we say, you guys immediately attribute to yourself, right?
Personally, which is fine.
It's a very common female trait.
It's everything that said you attribute it to yourself because women are inherently more narcissistic than men are.
And this has been proven through studies and facts.
But the reality is we're not talking about you.
We're talking about women in general.
This is how it goes.
Sorry if you got offended.
Alright, we got some more chats here.
Oh man.
Where we at here?
To the African brush, your bottom lip, Draymond Green.
What the fuck?
Oh, I'm working on T. Bible study tomorrow night, ladies, and that's from Pastor Fresh.
Venom goes, Aunt Jemima looking thick in the thumbnail.
Yo, what the fuck?
Yo!
Oh man.
Question for ladies.
In honor of earlier episode, what is your credit score?
I don't know if they want to drop that, but okay.
What's your credit score?
You want to start here?
What's your credit score?
Let me see.
Last time I checked, it was like 721, around there.
I think so.
That's very good.
I was working up from bad credit, so I'm proud of that.
All right.
I'm not going to lie.
Mine's just average in the 600s right now.
Alright.
Mine's a 655.
I'm working to get it up to seven goals.
Yeah, you're a queen, right?
Alright.
I want to say like 650, 675 range.
I'm not really sure.
Sorry.
Alright.
Cool.
That's good.
Mine is six something.
Okay.
Last time I checked, it was like 7-10-ish.
7-10.
Oh, 7-10.
Okay.
She said 17.
Okay.
I was going to say, what the hell?
I'm sorry.
I would not be right here.
I know.
How if the guy's actually working on his finances, he's going to know what his score is.
Girls just, oh, something wrong here.
I don't even know.
Because I don't really check it like that.
I'll check it, but I don't check it like that.
Unless you need it.
Not necessarily if I need it, but if I know I use my credit card, obviously I'm going to check it.
I'm going to check it right after I use my credit card to see.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm just weird like that.
I'll check it immediately after I use a credit card just to see.
How often do you use your credit card?
Not often.
So you use a debit card?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's move forward.
Where are you trying to get at?
Women are terrible at money in general.
Well, in order to build credit, you have to have a credit card.
I have a credit card, but I don't really use it.
I'll use it for gas and groceries, but how often do I need to do that?
You know what I mean?
You said you check your credit score after every credit card use.
Yeah, so every time I buy groceries or buy gas.
Check your credit score?
Yeah.
Women hold three quarters of the debt and are 80% of the consumer base.
So in general, like women aren't that great with debt because y'all hold most of it.
And I actually go into this in detail in the book, how women contribute way less to society than men do as far as socioeconomically.
They did a study in New Zealand and they found that the average woman is negative $140,000 when it comes to creating GDP for the economy.
Damn!
Yeah.
That's a fact.
That's not me just talking shit.
That's the truth.
Shout out to all the queens.
Shout out to all the queens, though.
That's unfortunate.
Like, dang.
Well, the reason why is because women go into professions a lot of times that don't create infrastructure.
They go into useless jobs and careers, to be honest.
No offense.
What would you say, I guess, is defined as a useless job or career?
Okay.
Well, how about this?
We'll look at the book real fast and actually have the 10 careers that women dominate.
Oh, so you listed it out.
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not fucking around.
I don't think I'm saying women deserve less just to be funny.
Like, no, man.
Like, legit.
Like, they don't provide much to society when it comes to what they provide.
But do you think that's a man's fault for trying to, when it comes to equality and all that?
Like, you know, over time, we had to fight for certain positions ourselves as women.
But then you men always been hard workers.
You guys always got it out the mud.
So it's like that's because men have a natural proclivity to create, whereas women don't.
Women are lazier than men in general when it comes to creating resources.
Do you think times is changing where hardworking women are evolving?
I would say no.
And the reason why is because women dominate college attendance right now, yet they still major in all the stupid majors that don't make money and all the jobs that don't promote society growth.
I'll give you an example.
The top 10 jobs for men.
Plumbers, pipefitters, streamfitters, electricians, carpenters, auto mechanics, supervisors of construction and extraction workers, construction laborers, firefighters, industrial mechanics, aircraft mechanics, and machinists.
This is all dominated by men at about 95% more.
So manual labor.
Damn.
Okay?
The things that create infrastructure in the society.
However, top 10 jobs for women.
And this is all from the Department of Labor, by the way.
These are facts.
Preschool and kindergarten teachers, executive secretaries, childcare workers, regular secretaries, dental assistants, medical records specialists, receptionists, information clerks, medical assistants, dietician, nutritionists, hairdressers, and cosmetologists.
So top 10 jobs for women.
I'll be honest, man.
Outside of, like, maybe kindergarten and preschool, not much infrastructure for society.
And nursing?
Wait, nurse?
Big ups to the traveling nurses, though.
But the top ten for men, these are all required for society to run.
There you have it.
Okay.
Mars.
Alright.
Somebody helps.
Someone was trying to say something before I said it, before I read.
I think it was you.
Oh, because you were saying that women go into those...
I would argue that girls have more choice now than ever before.
They just don't want to do those jobs.
Like, most women don't want to be air traffic controller.
Most girls don't want to get into law enforcement.
Most girls don't want to be firefighters.
Most girls don't want to do construction.
They don't want to do manual labor.
Would you be a stay-at-home father?
Damn.
That was a great question.
Like...
The answer is no, but here's the problem.
If I say I want to be a stay-at-home father, my chances of mating drop significantly.
Why do you say that?
Because women will not tolerate a man that wants to be a stay-at-home father.
It's some women out here that will like that.
You said some.
You're making an argument for the minority.
Most women, if I lined up 100 women, they would not be okay with a man being a stay-at-home father.
They would prefer the man to be in the breadwinner spot.
True.
I believe both partners should be breadwinners.
I mean, it would be nice to have one, but do I want that?
So you're making an argument for something you don't even want.
I'm not making an argument.
I'm just saying, like, it's just some women out here that I like.
It's a minority that's statistically insignificant.
It's not important.
If I line up 100 girls, 95 of them are going to want a guy that's a breadwinner.
True.
So why are we caring about the 5%?
But I'm just stating a fact.
It don't matter.
It's an irrelevant fact.
It's statistically insignificant.
The whole point of the podcast is to state opinions and facts.
I was going to say that earlier, but I knew it was going to be around me.
For example, your point is valid, but no one cares.
It's a minority.
So I have a question.
I got a question.
Exceptions don't make the rule, ladies.
See, here's the thing.
You can't make an argument or debate for an exception or a minority.
That's not how the world works.
Like I said before, there's a reason why most mouses are right-handed and not left-handed.
There's a reason why most guns are right-handed and not left-handed.
And that sucks.
Make them left-handed straps, man.
No, because it doesn't make financial sense to do so because most people aren't left-handed.
Because when I'm shooting, they fall right out.
Next thing you know, I'm shot.
Okay, here's the thing.
I'm left-handed and I even acknowledge this.
I'm left-handed.
I understand the world doesn't revolve around me.
It's gonna be difficult for me to find things that are left-handed, but I accept this.
It is what it is.
Can't make an argument for the minority just because I feel like it like I could go ahead.
This is not fair.
Most mouses are right-handed.
This is fucked up.
No, I understand reality.
I acclimate to reality.
I adapt and accept it versus it shouldn't be this way.
We don't operate on what should could or would we operate on what is What you stated, I mean, 5%, I mean, most girls are not going to accept the guy who want to be a stay-at-home mom.
Sorry, stay-at-home dad.
Regardless of how much money she makes, we found actually the more money a woman makes, the less tolerant she is of a dude that's broke.
That's a question?
I mean, it's a fact.
It's a statement.
For example, if a man makes more money, he's okay with having his woman stay at home.
If a woman makes more money, she's not okay with her man staying home.
In general.
That is true.
Yeah.
So, anybody else has something?
I was just gonna ask you, like, do you prefer a stay-at-home woman?
Or do you prefer a woman to be a breadwinner?
Excuse me, a breadwinner as well?
No, I would want her to stay home.
Why is that?
Because queer women don't make good mothers a lot of the time.
I'm sorry, repeat that?
That calls for nannies.
Career women don't make good mothers most of the time.
I mean, statistically speaking, two-parent households do way better than single-parent households.
I agree.
If you look at the United States in the 1950s and the 60s, right, before feminism came, where you had the traditional nuclear family where they were able to have one income, support the entire family, well, the economy was at its strongest because the labor market was strong.
They were paying people good wages, et cetera.
But after feminism came in the 1960s, what they were able to do was decrease the cost of labor because now you have two times as many people in the workforce.
So what do they do?
They increase the price of homes, they increase the price of common goods.
And then feminism was kind of a finesse where they were able to increase the cost of living because women wanted to be single and independent, which is cool.
But in reality, we know that the economy is strongest when there's one breadwinner and a nuclear family.
The nuclear families are dying now.
There's more single mothers now than ever before.
And single mothers are the leading cause of all the degenerates in society.
I don't think any woman dreams of work, honestly.
I think every...
It depends.
You think?
Yeah, like me, what I do for work, I model.
I want to do that.
So I think it depends on the job.
Forever?
Yeah.
So you're 50?
See, I was scared to speak on personal feelings just now.
Or are we speaking for everybody?
Because I agree with you.
I'm speaking for me, specifically.
I want to work.
I love to model.
I want to do that.
So I think it depends on the job.
The passion.
What's the passion?
Well, my whole thing is I'm saying I definitely think that you can have goals and aspirations like for yourself as a woman.
But if a man came to you and was like, hey, I would love for you to stay at home and just be a stay at home mom.
I feel like that would be a little I don't know.
I feel like that would be kind of I don't see a lot of women turning that opportunity down.
And I don't want you to view that through a perspective of they're saying, no, you can't have goals, you can't have aspirations.
But I just, I don't know.
I don't know if I agree with that.
You're being too nice about it.
Career women fail in every regard.
I'm just going to say it.
Here's what's happened.
I don't want to discredit women who are deep in their craft.
But here's the reality.
Most women derive their pleasure and happiness from a family and children, not from a career and making money.
Yeah.
The reason why you think that is because you're still young and you don't understand that, yo, as I get older, my chance of finding a guy and having children come down with it.
So they found, right, they've looked at studies on female happiness and overall satisfaction.
As feminism has gotten stronger and stronger, female happiness has went down and down.
Well, why is that?
They're making more money and they have more careers and they're being more successful than ever before.
They're more independent than ever before, but why are they not happy?
They're straying away from their power.
Women are social creatures.
They like to be around the people that they love and being caretakers.
Women don't have the same proclivity to go out there and make money and become successful and dominate the world that men do.
Okay?
And we actually brought a girl on the show, what, like last week?
The Russian girl?
Attractive Russian girl.
She chased the dream.
She got chased the bag.
She went ahead and made all this money in New York being an entrepreneur.
And at 33, she's like, damn, like, I fucked up.
I wish I started a family because now it's going to be way harder for me, number one, to have kids because I'm older.
And number two, to find a guy that I want because I make money.
I want a guy making $100,000 plus a year.
Well, these guys, why am I going to pick a 23-year-old?
Sorry, a 33-year-old.
Why am I going to pick a 33-year-old?
23-year-old?
23.
Why would I pick a 33-year-old when I could pick a 23-year-old?
Men always go for younger, more attractive girls.
That's just how it is.
So if they have the option to, they're going to do that.
So you could chase a career, but there's a consequence.
So I have a question for you.
So speaking on when you said men usually go for young women, do you feel like younger women are more so impressionable?
Yes.
And that's a big reason why they're more attractive.
When you say impressionable, do you mean easier to manipulate?
They come with less baggage.
They're more cooperative.
Well, that's where the guy's got to be a strong leader.
But they're more cooperative.
Women that are older tend to be stuck in their ways and not as submissive and provide headaches a lot of times.
I'm going to keep it real.
Most of them, yes.
Can I say something?
I feel those relationships don't last long, though.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's manipulation.
That's when the narcissistic shit starts coming in and you think you can just take over a young woman's mind.
Yes, they are full of life, you know, young, you know, just fresh out into the world.
Like, hey, you know, that stress, that heartbreak, they ain't got that yet.
But don't worry, it's going to be there.
And are you going to be able to take it once you get there?
So you think it's manipulation when an older guy gets with a younger girl?
I'm not speaking for every single relationship because I ain't gonna lie, I like my oldies.
Okay, so do you think in general it's manipulation?
Majority at the time.
Majority, yes.
And I feel like, why are you not really trying?
Because more so is for looks.
She's a sex symbol for real.
She's a young, plump, voluptuous, young, fresh out the oven shorty.
You feel me?
He's looking more at that than he's looking at.
Oh, she's adorable.
Oh, she's smart.
She do got some dreams.
But that pussy is what he's really looking at.
That young shit.
Alright, let me ask you a question.
You.
Do you want a guy that's taller than you?
Taller than me?
Yeah.
Do you want a guy that's smarter than you?
Of course.
Do you want a guy that makes more money than you?
No.
I don't know.
Stop the cap, bro.
You want me to be honest with you?
Yeah, do you want a guy that makes more money than you?
I'm not gonna lie to you.
I've been with guys that make less money than me.
They didn't make any money at all.
And where are they at now?
Gone So your actions reflect otherwise You make more money than you do Y'all might really come into some problems Okay, so you want to get as tall Than you make some more money I want to make money with you and all that shit I'm trying to run a bag up.
I want us to both be doing good.
That's it.
Period.
I just feel like we should kind of go back to the point.
Hold on, let me finish this, because they're saying that a man that wants a younger woman is manipulation most of the time.
Not all the time, but most of the time, in general.
You gotta say the specifics with him or he gonna get you.
He gonna write it down.
See, here's the difference, ladies.
I'm listening to understand.
The only reason I'm...
The difference is I'm listening to understand.
That's why I'm able to refute your points.
I'm not just talking to talk.
I listen, understand, and then I refute your point.
So you're saying men in general want younger women so they can manipulate in general.
At times, man.
Oh, now you're dropping it down.
Because you is a savage.
Like, it really is.
You gotta really say the right shit.
Or he gonna be like, you said right at this.
So what is it then?
So go ahead.
Please clarify for us.
What is it exactly when men want younger women?
What is it?
Should I do this?
I know y'all just...
Alright, fuck it.
Shark Tank.
So listen, at the end of the day, I've dated older guys and I feel like at first they probably was just in my looks.
Let me ask you a question.
Why'd you date those older men?
I was attracted.
I wanted what I wanted.
They wasn't old men, but they were older than me.
Specify what was attractive.
Just as soon as I took that first look and said, that's going to be mine.
That's it.
Okay, since you don't want to say it, I'll say it for you.
Was it his experience?
No, it was really the look like...
It don't be the experience.
No, no, no.
His experience in life being an older, more mature man.
I think I was more so in the eye contact type shit, like that type of love.
I'm a cancer, so I'm really like...
I'm a lover.
I don't know.
It was more so the attraction, like the look in the eyes.
It wasn't like...
Women don't even know why they're attracted to men.
Let me go ahead and spell it out for you guys in English.
That's not true.
I'm not letting him say that right now.
I don't agree with that.
I mean, he can say that, but I don't feel that way.
I guarantee, to some degree, what I'm going to describe is why you're attracted to this guy, even though you can't spell it out.
I'll agree.
Maybe he was taller.
Maybe he made more money.
Maybe he was attractive.
Maybe he has charisma.
Maybe he had charm.
He had some look about it where this guy was seasoned.
He had done his work, right?
He had become somebody.
This is why women typically pick older guys.
So, What if I told you that you're dumb, you're short, and you're broke because you want to date guys that are older and make more money than you?
How'd that make you feel?
Well, I'm not even looking at...
Hold on, hold on.
Please answer the question.
What if I told you that you were dumb, short, and broke because you wanted to date a guy that was taller and made more money than you and worked better in every standing?
It sounds foolish, doesn't it?
It does.
Hold on.
So why is it okay for you to say that men that want to date younger women want to manipulate them?
Damn.
Body shot.
No, because I'm about to do an uppercut.
Hold on.
I want you to really let that sink in.
Like, for real.
I want you to let that sink in.
Notice how what you wanted wasn't demonized, but what men want is demonized.
When a guy wants a younger girl, it's manipulation.
When a woman wants an older man that's more seasoned, it's okay.
She knows her worth.
Of course.
She's a queen.
So...
Younger women are easier to manipulate.
No, no, you just missed the whole point.
Did you not just catch what we did here?
I said I wasn't really speaking.
I definitely did.
You're asking if it's wrong for...
Why is it wrong for a man to like a younger woman, but it's okay for a younger woman to like an older man?
That sort of thing.
Yeah, but you missed the fine points in that.
Run it by me again.
What are the fine points?
Okay.
Women want men that are taller, stronger, older, more mature, charismatic, charming, etc.
A whole bunch of things.
Sure.
Now, what if I said that you are stupid, short, not strong, incompetent because you want a man that has all these qualities?
That would sound foolish for me to say that, right?
Because these are your hardwired attraction triggers that you like.
But why is it okay for you to turn around and say men want younger women because it's manipulative?
I'm sorry.
Notice how we took what men want and we made it negative versus what women want is not negative.
I'm sorry I said that.
Walking past y'all.
I'm sorry I said that.
Essentially he's trying to say like why is it okay for women to have preference but men can't.
Right.
What we like is discrimination.
What you like is a preference.
What men like is demonized but what women like it's almost just accepted.
I agree.
See, and here's the thing.
The fact that I had to say it like that for y'all and spell it out XYZ123 goes to show the indoctrination that so many modern women have.
It went over your head.
You're still confused.
I'm not necessarily confused.
I'm just thinking about it.
I'm just letting it marinate.
I'm not going to open my mouth without fully forming a coherent thought.
I'm thinking about what you guys said.
Seeing if there's a double standard.
And this is why men can't be honest with women.
Because if a guy was to be honest and say, I want a young girl that's not a whore, that has chast, comes from a good family, etc.
Not fat.
They're going to say, oh, that's misogynistic.
Not really.
It's realistic.
But we don't tell women, yo, you want a guy that's taller than you, makes more money than you, etc.
You're misandricistic.
But we don't even know what misandry means.
That's the hatred of women.
Or sorry, the hatred of men.
So what I'm saying is that Men can't be honest about their standards, but women can be honest about theirs.
And as a matter of fact, we applaud women for sticking to those standards and not settling.
Versus a man that doesn't settle is considered fucked up.
If I say I don't like fat girls, they're going to try to cancel me.
If you say I don't like short men, no one's going to care.
Versus a fat girl can control her weight, but a man can't control his height.
Bars.
Correct.
You're different, bro.
You're different.
Amen.
Two chains.
White women deserve less.
Book is going to be live in five minutes, man.
All right.
I go into detail about this stuff.
All right, guys.
B-Day.
All right.
So, Fresh, can you hit these questions?
Actually, ladies, this is...
You know what's funny?
That book?
Ladies, if you're watching the show right now, the five of you, buy your man that book.
He'll love you.
Okay, cool.
So much extra, Chris?
Yep.
Ajabic says, ladies, let's say you met a guy that made good money and was willing to provide and take care of you.
How much would that cost him per month?
I would say, boring bills.
I mean, here, makeup, shopping.
Okay, this is a very good question.
Ladies, for your lifestyle, right?
You met a man as your dream guy, willing to take care of you.
How much would I be a month?
Oh, man, that's a lot of math.
That's a lot of maintenance, a lot of money, a lot of math.
Just think about your current expenses that you go through monthly.
If the guy was coming to your life and said, you know what?
I got you, baby.
What would I be a month for him?
I haven't thought about all the math before.
I just do it.
Car payment.
I don't know.
For example, major bills, rent.
I was going to say, are we including like major bills?
Major bills.
Okay.
Lifestyle, it affects you directly.
Oh, we're including major bills?
Definitely like at least over a thousand.
That's real.
I mean, I'm not coming up with the math on the spot right now, but at least a thousand.
That's what I have to pay in my credit cards.
It's a outside world bill, so not bills included.
It's major bills, though.
Major bills.
So, carno, rent...
To maintain your current lifestyle, actually major bills in your life, what would that be?
A month.
A month.
Remember, he's taking care of you.
So major bills, he's going to pay for you.
Yeah, he means hair, makeup, shopping.
Hair, makeup, shopping.
That's your whole lifestyle.
Hair, hair is expensive.
I was just like $400.
Hair, rent, you know.
Oh, rent too?
I would say let's be realistic.
If we're including rent, car note, nails, hair, lashes.
$5,000 to $10,000 a month.
And I'm bringing that in myself.
We need her answer.
For me, like $1,000 to $2,000 for my current expenses.
So $2,000?
Yeah.
A month.
Okay.
For you?
Me?
Oh, okay.
I would say over $1,000 as well.
That's it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's all cheap.
You're bringing in bills, right?
Yeah.
Rent $2,500, bottom line.
So I'm going to need like $5,000.
Literally.
Okay.
Okay.
And does that include hair and nails too?
Karen knows.
I mean, like, if he's willing to make that decision of, like, you know what I'm saying?
Yes.
$5,000.
Okay.
And I'm gonna feed the homeless, too.
There you go.
Um, I'd say with the lifestyle I'm living now, I don't know, maybe like $3,500, including like rent, carno.
No, no, no boring bills, ladies.
Oh, no boring bills, I'm sorry.
Just hair and makeup, and you have no hair.
That's going to be too low, Chris, if you take that out.
It's going to be too low.
So no, include it.
So $3,500, right?
Yeah, sure.
I'll say that.
I don't know why, but the first number that came to mind was $10,000.
Period.
Because he got it like that, but I would say 3k at least.
That's a big jump though.
Why the difference?
That's, I'm telling you, that's the first number that came to mind.
10k?
But why?
So I can, you know, stash a little bit, pay what I got.
Oh, okay.
So you want more than what you actually would need it for?
Because I don't need a lot.
I don't be going shopping and getting my nails done and hair and all that extra stuff.
So the real number is 3k?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
For you?
What was the question?
I think she was in the bathroom.
That's why.
It was how much to maintain her, right?
Yeah, basically.
For example, here, makeup, shopping, but let's include as well a major bill.
When you say a major bill, like what?
Rent?
Phone bill?
Like what?
Anything?
I mean, if I'm being honest, I pay for my own hair, my own nails.
I don't really get my makeup done.
I did this because it's a photo shoot today.
So I would say the most I want my man to do is buy me food or just give me things because he knows I would like it.
What would that number amount to be?
I would say like...
Remember, he's taking care of you.
Yeah.
Monthly.
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's kind of hard.
I'm going to just say 3K. I'm just throwing them out there because I really don't know.
Fuck it.
3K. Okay.
Fuck it.
All right.
Next one.
Yep.
Blade Brown.
FNF crew should be getting hazard pay.
God forbid we go through another quarantine.
Y'all are mission essential.
Lost a great amend in 2022.
It's three or four.
Stay up, y'all.
Okay.
I got a question for the ladies real quick.
When's the last time you had a Valentine?
We'll start here.
Me?
Yeah.
Freshman year.
Freshman year?
Okay.
Okay.
What about you?
Mine had to be like sophomore high school.
Okay.
So freshman and...
Wait.
You said freshman year in college or high school?
High school.
In high school.
Okay.
And then yours was...
Like sophomore high school.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
Well, now, right?
Oh, yeah.
Now.
But honestly, this is like my first time really ever like celebrating...
Oh, I'm sorry.
Celebrating Valentine's Day?
Yeah.
I mean, I've never had one.
Sorry.
Mine was last year.
Sorry.
Last year.
Okay.
Oh, you forgot?
It was that bad?
No, it wasn't that bad.
Okay.
What about you?
I would say the year 2021.
That was my first one as well.
Was it the seven hour guy that you got rid of?
No.
That's recent.
Okay, so last year you said?
Yeah.
Okay, what about you?
Oh, so last year.
Last year?
Okay.
Now, my second question is whose job is it to get picked on Valentine's?
The man or the woman's?
What do you mean, get picked?
Like, ask?
Well, whose job is it to get picked?
What do you mean, ask the person?
Do you mean, like, go above and beyond, like, get a hotel decorated and stuff like that?
Are you talking about like that?
No.
I mean, as in, who is it on to secure a valentine?
The man or the woman?
You're talking about in regards to asking, right?
Like, ask the person, like...
No.
Just securing it, making it happen in the first place.
Okay.
What, getting a date?
Like getting a boyfriend?
Getting the valentine.
Is it...
Okay, let me...
Holy shit.
This is a tough panel.
So, whose job is it to secure the valentine?
Is it the woman by being a good lady and showing that she's worth it?
Or is it the man by asking her and doing all these extravagant things?
That's what I'm asking.
Statistically speaking, men, I would say...
Hold on, hold on.
We'll start right here and then work our way.
Who is it on to get the Valentines?
The man or the woman?
Are you asking for my personal opinion?
Or just what is the reality of it?
You can give us both if you want.
My personal opinion, I don't know, anybody can do it.
Like, if a girl likes a guy, why not?
Go for it.
But for me, my personal preference, I prefer when a guy does it.
I'd rather him ask me.
Okay, but what leads to him asking you?
What leads to him asking me?
I mean, he's gotta like me.
Like, that sort of thing.
What would make him like you?
My qualities, my attributes.
What are those attributes?
I don't know.
I'm stable.
I'm consistent.
I'm loving.
I'm hardworking.
I make money.
Do you think men care about a woman's money?
Depends on the kind of man you are.
Some men are bums.
Okay.
The men that you want to pick you as a valentine, do you think they care about your money?
I would hope not.
So why would you list that off as something that you bring to the table if they don't care?
Because then I'm not a freeloader either.
I got my own money.
If you have your own money, awesome.
Treat me.
Let's do stuff together.
But I'm not solely dependent on that.
I make my own money.
I can take you out too sometimes.
It's not all just him.
So you think it's on the guy to get a valentine?
To initiate?
Yeah, for sure.
For me.
Honestly, she's definitely the one you should look up to.
What about you?
Whose responsibility is it to get the valentine, the man or the woman's?
Statistically speaking, I would say the men.
Why?
Because of the fact that they don't bring that much value.
So they have to sit there and pursue more into the woman than the woman should with the men.
So you think men don't have to bring that much value?
I feel like they usually don't, but in the sense of trying to pursue a woman, like, committed to them, yeah.
They have to actually, like, throw their self out there to make sure that, like, the woman understand that they want them and just them only.
Do you think that's attractive, so a majority of women?
Yeah.
So, like, cat and mouse?
Not speaking for every woman, but there are women out here that looks at men that goes out their way for a woman, like, being attractive.
What do you think is a healthier relationship?
The relationship where the woman chases the man or the man chases the woman?
I would say both.
There's no such thing as 50-50 when it comes to that regard.
Every single relationship, whether it's business, marriage, friendship, etc., one party needs the other one more.
That's how the world works.
There's no such thing as 50-50.
This is some whimsical, you know, femme-centric mindset.
There's no such thing as 50-50 in anything in life, especially relationships.
So one has to care less than the other.
What was your question again?
I'm sorry.
Okay.
The question is, who has to like the other party more for the relationship to work?
The men.
So you think the guy has to chase the girl more?
Yes.
Hence why you think that the valentine is on the guy?
Okay.
What about you?
Whose responsibility is it to get a valentine's?
The man or the woman?
Whoever wanted more.
I like that answer.
Because I don't know what you would consider my type, like who I am, but like if I like you and you ain't really step up, I'm gonna tell you I want you to be my Valentine's.
Which one is more productive for the relationship?
You think the man's got to do it?
A female wants her knight in shining armor to come in and soup up.
We want to feel like the only one.
We always make y'all feel like the only one.
We love hard to the point even when y'all want us.
We be like, fuck that shit.
Now we in jail.
I disagree.
I think men love way harder than women do.
Really?
Yeah.
But we'll continue on.
I'll break it down here in a second.
But you think the guys, right, have to do it more?
Yeah, it's enjoyable, but I wouldn't mind doing it either, being like, I want you to be my Valentine, because I want my men to feel special too.
Okay.
He wants...
He needs to want the woman more, is what your words were.
It depends.
I don't know, guys.
That's what you just said.
Like, I wouldn't mind if my dude came about and was like, yo, I want you to be my Valentine's and stuff.
You wouldn't mind it, but what's more productive for the relationship, is the question.
Okay.
Yes.
It would be the man, the final answer.
Okay.
Alright.
What about you?
Who do you think it's incumbent upon to get the Valentine, the man or the woman?
Chris, can you keep the chat open?
Um...
I would say it just depends on that relationship.
I mean...
Tilt the mic towards you.
Like, flip it.
Yeah, like, there you go.
There you go.
Thanks.
And then...
Okay.
Okay, you were saying...
I think it just depends on the relationship that those two individuals have.
I mean, I can't lie to you, this Valentine's Day coming up, I mean, we both kind of asked each other, but, like, I'm not afraid to, like, go out of the way, like, do the most for my man.
Like, I'm not afraid to...
Okay, which one is more productive, though?
The man doing it or the woman?
More productive?
Yeah, for the relationship success.
Um...
Personally, I don't know.
I don't really, I don't know.
This is kind of like my first time really engaging in that.
Okay, whose responsibility is to get the Valentine then?
The men or the women's?
I would say the woman.
Like if you want somebody to treat you, then...
Okay, so you're saying something a little bit different than the girls.
Why do you say the woman?
I just feel that if that's an expectation that you want out of another person, then I feel that that's your responsibility to go out and I guess find that for yourself.
And how would she do that?
Finding somebody that matches her same energy and or values.
Okay, describe that explicitly.
Um...
I don't know.
I just feel like if she wants...
I don't know.
I guess I just don't really know what it is you're trying to ask.
I guess I don't really know what you're trying to get at.
What's more important when it comes to Valentine's Day?
A man coming to you or you as a woman going to a man?
What's more significant in that relationship?
What makes the relationship more significant?
Who's responsible for getting the Valentine?
The man or the woman?
You're saying the woman, but you're saying matching energy and some other ambiguous terms that don't make sense.
No offense.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Okay, I guess in that terms, I'm asking you to explicitly outline it.
What does she need to do?
I would say the male then.
I'll switch my answer.
Okay, fantastic.
Why the man?
I don't know.
I guess that's just how it's always been, and that's just what women want.
All right, what about you?
Whose responsibility is it to secure the Valentine, the man or the woman's?
I don't think that determines, like, the productivity of the relationship.
Okay.
Well, I only used that earlier to get them to say an answer.
Like, when I was saying, like, which one needs, because I kept saying 50-50, well, which one needs to be, I'm saying, but in general now, for the Valentine.
Did you ask the question one more time?
Okay.
Whose responsibility is it to secure the Valentine, the man or the woman's?
And if you're going to say 50-50, then I'm saying which one is more productive to the relationship?
Since you're going to say that, which is exactly what I hedged against, which one is more productive to the overall relationship?
The man securing it or the woman securing it?
It shouldn't determine.
Like, that's my answer.
That shouldn't determine because, like, if I'm feeling you in the beginning of a relationship and I'm doing all of this stuff for you, I mean, like, why wouldn't you come back and, you know, supply and provide and things like that?
If you had to assume a position, who would it be?
I can't assume.
I can't.
You do realize you just answered your own question, right?
With what you just stated a second ago.
Okay.
Do you remember what you stated a second ago?
Yeah.
Okay, what was it?
So what's your point?
What was it that you said?
What's your point?
Okay, all right, what about you?
Who do you think it's more on to secure the valentine, the man or the woman?
If I'm being honest, I'm gonna tell from my personal experience in the real world, for me, it's 50-50.
Like, for me, no, no, no, realistically speaking, realistically speaking, like, I would ask my dude, if I had a dude, would he be my valentine?
Bro, stop the fucking shit.
None of you want a 50-50 relationship.
That is the biggest fucking lie ever.
Y'all are done talking at this point.
Let's establish some ground rules in reality, biological reality.
Women want men that are taller than them.
Women want men that are stronger than them.
Women want men that are more competent than them, that are more charismatic, more charming, etc.
You guys want a man that's better than you in almost every single metric of human existence.
You telling us?
I don't care about that.
That is what women want in general.
Can I tell you what I want?
You want a man that's better than yourself?
Let me tell you what I want.
You don't want a 50-50.
That's a lie.
You speaking for yourself?
He is.
You don't know what I like.
Remember, it's in general, ladies.
It's in general.
Okay, in general.
In general.
But let's be honest here.
Most of you want that anyway.
In general, speaking for me, I want a 50-50 relationship.
That's not cap.
That's max.
That's facts.
Have you ever had one?
A 50-50 relationship?
No, I haven't.
But what does that have to do with the question?
It's because I always put in more into a man than a man would ever put into me.
Oh, so what does that mean?
I'm a simp.
No.
It's never 50-50.
That's right, but that's...
You're right.
You're absolutely right, but I'm telling you what I want.
But it doesn't work, though.
Sorry, Twitch.
But that's not true, because...
You just said it yourself.
It doesn't work.
It doesn't work.
What I have experienced has not worked.
But who's to say in the future that won't happen?
So you're hoping.
I'm not hoping.
So tell me one...
Be honest here.
One relationship that you know is like that that works.
Just tell me one.
A 50-50 relationship?
One person, you know.
I don't know, because I don't know.
Bro, it doesn't work.
You're saying it doesn't work, but how do you know it don't work?
Have you experienced that?
I don't know.
How do you know, Fresh?
In the universe, right?
Let's say celebrities, non-celebrities, people on average, right?
If that was even possible to happen, maybe it's a small percentage, but it's not realistic.
You're right.
I'm not disagreeing with you guys at all.
That's not what I'm doing.
I'm just telling you what I want from my point of view.
I want a 50-50 relationship.
My dude shouldn't have to always get everything for me.
I should be able to provide for my dude as well.
I'm trying to take you out to dinner.
It's not always about the dude.
I'm capable of doing that, but I would rather a guy...
That provides.
But that's the case, though.
Everybody's different.
Hold on.
Who here is the man right now?
Only you, right?
Yo.
Question for you.
Do you want that?
Do I want what?
I don't want that, but I could provide that, sure.
Okay.
But no, I don't want.
So notice, right?
Everyone wants 50-50?
What are you right now?
I'm single because I choose to be single.
I'm single because...
I'm done.
I just can't take everything.
You're single because you want to be, and I'm watching this porno to see if the fucking plumber is going to fix the leak.
Bro, stop lying to yourself.
Women don't want to be single.
They want to have the best man that they can have and be with that dude.
Girls say, I'm single by choice.
That's like me being an incel, haven't had sex in three years, saying, yo...
I don't want to have sex with these girls.
My choice.
Girls want a man at the end of the day.
I want a man.
I'm not saying I don't want a man.
Honestly, I want a man.
Sling me around, daddy.
You know what?
Hold on.
I got you.
I got you.
Real quick, ladies on the panel.
So I had a discussion today.
Actually, today, that being said, it went today, right?
The question was basically, who deserves a gift more on V-Day?
The man or the woman and why?
Real quick.
You're asking me first?
Yeah, who deserves to get a gift more?
The man or woman, and why?
On V-Day.
I don't know how to answer that question.
I genuinely don't know how to answer that question.
Can it be a middle answer?
No, no.
So, you don't know how to answer that, right?
I don't know how to answer that.
Perfect.
What about you?
The nigga, because he do more.
Wow.
What about you?
I would say my man.
Why?
Because he not only provides some type of financial stability for me, but just a different kind of perspective.
It's a different type of Just...
everything.
For you, who deserves to give more?
Man or the woman?
On V-Day?
The man.
Why?
I just feel like...
Merch?
Merch?
Huh?
I'm sorry.
Ignore him.
Go ahead.
I feel like I'm thinking about me personally, because I know we think about, like, we supposed to speak on everybody, but me personally, I feel like when it comes to a man showing his vulnerability, Like, you need a prize for that.
Like, you showing how much you love me and everything.
And it's hard for men to do that because a lot of men are scared of rejection or getting played because it's a lot of it fuck with your manhood more than it fuck with your womanhood when we play.
We more so gonna go fight for it.
They more so like, damn, my manhood fucked up.
So for Valentine's Day, you know, if he deserving after showing me, you know, his vulnerability and all that and that he not afraid to love me, I'm going all out for my man.
He getting everything.
I got you.
What about you?
Y'all may beat me up for this, but I would say women and men.
Like, I'm 50-50.
No, no, no.
If you could have chosen one, who would it be?
I can't.
No, no, no.
You can.
You know what you want to say, but you don't want to say it.
What if it was children?
What do I want to say then?
Since you know.
No, no.
I want you to say it.
Remember, once again, who deserves it more?
Men or women?
On V-Day.
I can't answer that.
If you had to choose one person, who do you think would deserve it more?
In your personal life, think about it.
You or him?
Okay.
And this isn't him saying that, like, you don't deserve X, Y, and Z, but, like, how do you feel about that topic?
You would say personally speaking, right?
Yeah, personally, yeah.
Go ahead.
Personally.
I would say men.
Why?
Because of the fact that there are not much men out here that are vulnerable.
They feel as though they're vulnerable to a woman, they're weak.
They're weak-minded, they're crybabies, all that type of stuff.
So I feel like men are more so going out their way to pursue women and show them other stuff that they never showed any other woman in their life.
Understood.
What about you?
I just want to get the question clear.
The question is, who deserves a gift more?
On Valentine's Day.
I think it's kind of a weird question.
On purpose.
It is, but it's just weird.
Why don't we both get gifts?
I'm going to chill.
I'm going to chill.
I'm going to calm down.
Take a deep breath.
I think it's definitely like pending on that relationship dynamic because I've been in relationships where I'm pulling all the weight and I feel like you know I probably like deserve more like I'm putting in the work I'm like you know doing all this kind of like stuff and then my man's just like sitting around all day playing league.
You were making the money and stuff?
Doing nothing.
At the time, I wasn't making money.
I was in college, but I was working two internships, doing a lot of stuff in school.
Meanwhile, he had all his free time and he spent it watching Anime and playing League.
League of Legends?
Yeah.
Shout out to League, man.
And it was a lot of love for him.
No hate against him, but it really drove me crazy.
I was like, why aren't I getting more?
Why aren't you also pulling your own weight?
That sort of thing.
I feel like it's very pending on the relationship dynamic.
I want to do the same thing as you.
In general, who deserves to give more?
In general, the person putting in the most work.
In most relationships, who's putting in the most work then?
Generally.
Women.
Generally.
You think women?
Women.
No, no, no.
Let her ask you this.
I definitely...
That's kind of like a difficult question because define work.
I feel like women provide things that men can't provide and vice versa.
Like, for example, men grow up, you know...
Just answer the question, please.
Who puts in the most work?
Let's look at it from the totality of the circumstances.
Simple.
Everything.
Tangible and intangible.
Who deserves it more?
Yeah, I'm like, I mean, I don't even know how to answer that.
It really is depending on the relationship dynamic.
I really couldn't tell you.
I couldn't tell you.
Here's the last question, right?
You said what earlier?
50-50?
Yeah.
What did everyone want me to say here on the panel for the most part?
Men.
Put in the most work.
So it's never 50-50.
One party always puts more than the other.
It's usually the man.
Now, in your case, I get it.
By default, it's the man.
Yeah, but just be heard on panel.
Who puts in the most work?
Men.
So it can't be 50-50 ever.
It can't be.
And then also, you guys said earlier, and then it's kind of funny because that contradicts what I asked you earlier.
Who is more responsible for securing the Valentine?
You guys all said the guy.
It's actually the girl.
And the reason why it's the girl is because women want commitment.
I said the girl.
Yeah, you were the only one that said the girl.
No, you changed your answer to guy.
Oh, I did.
Nice try.
So, see, I'm writing everything down.
But no, you guys said that it's on the guy, right?
To secure the valentine, I would argue it's on the woman because the girl is supposed to show why she's worthy of being a valentine and being a girlfriend.
But the problem is that we live in a crazy world now where women don't think they have to put in work or they think it could be 50-50, etc.
There is no 50-50 because the man that you want isn't 50-50.
You want a man who's superior to you in every way, whether he's taller than you, stronger than you, makes more money than you, more dominant than you, more decisive than you.
He's better than you in some regards.
So how can you expect to be with a guy that's superior to you and expect a 50-50 relationship?
It doesn't work that way.
Period.
And I would argue the most productive relationships are the one where the guy's in the leadership role, the girl knows he's a leader, and she loves and reminds and respects him.
And she chases him more than he chases her.
That's the only way it works.
It never works when a man's chasing a girl.
And she allows him to lead.
Yes.
Well, it's not even she allows, it's that if she doesn't let him lead, she gets kicked to the curb.
So would you call...
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah, sure.
Would you call a female who puts in the work, is the breadwinner at home, while she's, you know...
I'm sorry, guys.
So, while the female is the breadwinner at home, you know, waiting for her man to become successful in his dreams, whatever he has aligned, you know, stocks, things like that, you know, once she's the breadwinner, do you think she's deserving of him pursuing her as his Valentine?
Or do you still think it's like...
No, that girl is...
You stupid!
What are you doing?
Why are you supporting a man?
Literally.
Why are you supporting a man?
That's very foolish.
It's stupid.
It doesn't work.
Women are terrible long-term providers.
Women don't provision well.
They don't provide.
Oh, you don't agree?
Oh, really?
Hold on.
Here's the difference.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You don't agree?
Here's the difference.
When a man makes money, he says, I can have a family be dependent upon me.
When a woman makes money, she says, I'm strong and independent.
Queen.
That's the difference.
Men and women don't look at money and success the same way.
If a guy is providing for a woman, he can do it long-term.
We're designed for it.
Women, on the other hand, are not designed to provide for men long-term.
I don't know if you've noticed this, but I've been watching you very closely.
And I'll say something, you'll nod in acknowledgement, but then you'll say, I disagree.
Because, like, you know, I'll nod and acknowledge, man.
You caught that too, right, Chris?
Yeah, I caught it.
I mean, what can I say?
It's just how I am.
Like, I'm acknowledging your point.
You know, you're talking.
I'm acknowledging you.
Like, that's just respect.
No, but body language says a lot.
You know what I'm saying is the truth that women are not good long-term provisioners.
However, you don't like the way it makes you feel, so you say, I disagree.
Then I ask you, explain why you disagree.
You're not necessarily able to refute the point besides the fact that I might have said it in a way that you didn't like, but that doesn't change the fact that it's biologically true.
Women don't provide for men in general.
They just don't.
And if they do, there's studies that show this, when a woman out-earns her man, the likelihood of divorce or breakup are significantly higher.
Absolutely.
I agree.
So that proves my point, that women are good long-term provisioners.
Because the reasoning is different.
It's not that they're not good because they can't, and I've seen it happen.
It's the fact that society isn't built that way either.
Okay, this is another perfect example of you moving the goalposts.
I said what is, and you're saying why.
I don't care why.
Women just aren't good at it, period.
They can't do it.
You might say, oh, well, they can't do it.
The why is this.
No one cares about the why.
The reality is women are not good long-term provisioners.
The why is irrelevant.
You care about the why because you asked me why.
Because men always want to be the breadwinner.
Men always want to be the breadwinner.
When did I say why?
Like, You asked me why I disagree on that point, and I'm telling you why I disagree.
I said I agree with you, and the point that you had said that in relationships where women are the breadwinners, they tend to end up in divorce more often than how it is the other way around, like traditional, conventional standards, right?
Yes.
And I agree with that point.
Why?
Because, I mean, in society, it's built so that men make more money than women.
Incorrect.
That's not incorrect.
You can look at the UN. There's a wage gap.
There's a gendered wage gap.
Really?
Yes.
Is it true?
Yes, it is.
You can look it up on the UN. If you look at every single country in the world, there's a gendered wage gap everywhere.
And not one of them is having women on top making more money than men.
You triggered my trap card!
The reason why women make less is because, quite frankly, women deserve less.
And the reason why women deserve less is, let's hit some numbers here.
Women on average work, we already went over the jobs that they work that get paid less in general.
Women work less hours than men in general.
Women work less dangerous jobs.
They take more time off vacation.
They take more paternity leave.
They are less likely to take risks.
They're more likely to leave the workforce.
And women are more agreeable, hence they don't argue for higher wages.
There's a multitude of reasons why women get paid less, and all of it is based on choice, not gender.
The reason why women get paid less is because they choose to not make more money.
They choose to not work hard.
Women make less because they deserve less.
Men work harder than women, period, point blank, period.
In every metric of labor, men work harder than women.
You can say that, but...
Oh, and one more thing.
Here's another crazy part.
Women dominate university attendance, and they still make less.
Yeah, you had said that earlier.
It's the degree that they get, right?
Yeah, but they should be making more.
If they dominate university attendance and higher education, why is it that they still make less?
Well, because they go into useless professions a lot of the time.
Not necessarily.
It's not always the case.
There's such a thing as companies preventing wage transparency amongst co-workers and that kind of stuff.
Like not being able to talk about wages, how much they're making.
They discourage.
It's illegal.
But there's a lot of companies that discourage.
No, it's illegal to pay a woman less for the same job as a man.
Yes.
It's illegal, but not many people know that they're being gypped when it comes to like their labor.
Why?
Because companies tend to encourage or no, sorry, discourage wage transparency between coworkers.
OK, let's use your logic.
Let's say I could actually get away with paying women less than men.
Why would I hire men?
Why would you hire a man?
Yeah.
Think about that.
No, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Let that sink in, Marinate.
If I could actually get away as an employer paying women less than men, why the hell would I hire men?
Because you said it.
Because you want diversity.
Why wouldn't you want diversity?
Maybe you want their strength.
Do you want all females?
Do you want all males?
It depends on the industry, too.
Is that just over your head, what I just asked?
It's not enough women, like you said.
Because men are going to get the job done.
Ladies, it was a rhetorical question.
You can't.
If that were the case, there'd be women in the workforce and no men because men could actually get...
Most entrepreneurs will hire women because they can get away with paying them less.
But the reality is women get paid less because they work less and they go into professions that quite frankly aren't needed by society as much.
I just read the top professions by men versus the top professions for women.
Women have very little interest in creating infrastructure for society.
That might be true, but I'm not talking about men and women having different career choices.
I'm talking about men and women in the same position getting paid different amounts.
A woman typically...
I can't speak for the whole...
There's a study that they did.
Actually, when you equate Okay, here's...
When you equate education, experience, profession, where they're working, etc., the wage gap almost disappears.
And a matter of fact, in some cases, the woman makes more.
They did this at Google.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, the statistic I was giving you was from the United Nations.
So, I don't know what to tell you.
The UN is just quite frankly wrong because, again...
The UN's wrong?
Yes, the UN is wrong because they don't take...
Because anyone, any economist with half a brain would know if that were truly the case that you can get away with paying women less, it would be only women in the workforce.
They would not hire men.
It would be stupid for you to hire men.
You would just hire women because you could pay them less if you could actually get away with it.
Well, no, because men and women have different abilities.
Men tend to be more logical, so you want logical workers.
But you also want women that are more emotionally in tune, customer service, that kind of stuff.
They tend to be better at customer service.
So you kind of want both, depending on the industry.
So you want both.
But it's in you, like the employer, in your best interest to, I guess, pay women less just because, I don't know, it's...
They don't, though.
That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
They don't pay them less.
The reason why women get paid less on average is because they work less and they deserve less.
But I'm also not talking about minimum wage jobs, like you're working at Burger King, like whatever.
Everybody there is making $15 an hour, like that sort of thing.
I'm talking about when you start moving up in positions and that kind of stuff, women tend to be held back for promotions.
No, they're not.
Women are promoted more than men, and they're given job positions even if they're not qualified because of affirmative action.
That's tokenism.
You gotta have, like, a token woman or, like, whatever, a token person to, like, certify and show the whole world that, like, yeah, we're a diverse team and, like, whatever, but you just have that person there.
There are job postings right now for police departments and law enforcement agencies and STEM, etc., that are female only.
Could you imagine if we had job postings that are men only?
Why do you think that?
Sexism inherently benefits women.
It does not benefit men whatsoever.
I want to give a shout out to my friend.
She's a female performer in Philly.
That's great, but she's probably one of...
A few.
You know, speaking of plumbers, you know what?
Funny story.
We had a female plumber come on the show that was in trade school.
This was about a year ago.
Guess what?
She went through the plumber test.
She couldn't squeeze the wrench.
They have like a test where they're supposed to show grip strength and being able to open a pipe or whatever.
She failed the test.
They still hired her though.
Why?
Because they need women that bad.
In the United Kingdom, you can become a firefighter as a female by failing the test.
So, I think sexism only benefits women.
If we didn't have sexism, there would be no WNBA. There'd be no female sports.
We would have just one standard, and women would have to acclimate.
There'd be no military or law enforcement, etc.
One standard.
I agree with you on that point, but sexism doesn't only benefit women either.
How does sexism benefit men?
I mean, the sex industry.
Men objectify women all the time.
PIMs, sex trafficking, that kind of stuff.
Who makes the majority of the money in the sex industry?
Who makes, I mean, pimps?
I mean, it depends, like, where you're looking at.
It's the women, overwhelmingly.
Female porn stars get far more than men for the same scene.
And I know this from experience, because one of my good friends was a former porn star.
Okay, well, I wasn't necessarily...
Okay, yeah, I said, like, sex industry is, like, a broad term.
I wasn't talking about, like, porn specifically.
I was talking about, like, strip clubs.
I'm talking about women that get...
Women get paid more, too.
They might get paid more.
See, you guys complain about sexism when it doesn't benefit you.
The only thing that I could think of that women benefit from, that men benefit from sexism is we can fuck a bunch of girls and not get discriminated against by it.
But everything else, women get a benefit from sexism.
Can you name one that women benefit from besides, or sorry, that men benefit from what I just mentioned besides being promiscuous?
Tell us more.
I mean, like what I said, the, you know, like the sex industry and stuff, like I'm not talking about, yeah, but I'm not talking about porn, I'm talking about, um, sex trafficking, for example, like women, um, yeah.
So an illicit trade that is illegal?
That is your argument?
Well, yeah, it's not...
Okay, yes, it's illegal, but it doesn't mean that it's not happening.
And it's sexism at work, and it works in men's favor.
Men take vulnerable women off the streets.
A lot of people think sex trafficking is like, oh, like some girl on the street, you see her in a parking lot, you abduct her, and you take her.
It's not like that.
They take these vulnerable women that come from tough backgrounds, no father at home, or like...
Mom, whoever was also in the sex industry, maybe also a drug addict, one or both parents are absent.
Any combination of those things, and they're vulnerable, and they're looking for love, and they're looking for someone to be there in their life to, you know, like, give them some stability because they don't know stability.
That's an illegal trade.
It's illicit.
It's not legal anywhere, so you can't use that.
I'm asking, where is there sexism that benefits men?
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, though.
I'm not denying that it exists.
And it's a huge industry, too.
Hold on, no.
I'm not denying that.
Well, actually, it's not that huge, because I actually used to investigate human trafficking and sex trafficking.
Most of it was just prostitution.
So, nice try.
But the reality is that there is no industry that I could think of that men benefit from sexism.
Women get all the benefits from sexism.
Because they step into their sexiness.
There's men right now that I see making their little OnlyFans and doing their thing.
Do they make as much as women though?
The OnlyFans.
See, everything you guys are mentioning, the women benefit.
The OnlyFans.
You guys can't even name one industry where sexism benefits men and doesn't benefit women.
You guys can't name anything.
I'm telling y'all, sexism inherently benefits women.
It creates a double standard so women can compete.
Because the reality is if y'all had to compete with us with one standard, you guys would not be able to compete.
Imagine one NBA, women have to, hey, you gotta measure up.
There'd be no chicks in there.
Imagine we had one soccer league.
Women would not be able to join.
Female sports would be obliterated.
Women would not be able to join labor-intensive jobs, etc.
So you could say that the wage gap exists.
It actually doesn't.
When you compare degrees, education, experience, time at the job, etc., the wage gap evaporates.
And I would argue that women have more opportunity to make more money.
They just choose not to.
They don't want to go into the trades that make more money.
And they don't want to go into the career fields that make more money.
They don't want to go into science, technology, engineering, or math.
They're more interested in social sciences, being a model, cosmetology, holistic healing.
If we don't do it, who gonna do it?
I might actually help heal, though.
Who's going to do it if we don't do it?
I'm for the people.
The points I'm trying to make is that money typically is a personification of value.
The reason why men get paid more for these jobs is because there's not enough people that want to do them.
They're hard to do and they create infrastructure for society.
Everyone does holistic healing or cosmetology or is a model or does psychology.
Hence why you guys get paid less.
Who gets paid less?
The professions I quite just named.
Versus an Alaska fisherman is going to make more than a sociologist because most people don't want to do that job.
It's very difficult and labor intensive.
But they get paid more because they take more risk and not many people want to do it.
So women get paid less because they choose to get paid less.
And if you want to take it a step further, you go to Scandinavian countries where men and women are the most equal in anywhere else in the world and women still get paid less and they go into career fields that are more involved with people.
Men go into career fields that are more involved with things.
So let me ask you, you think I get paid less because I'm a model?
I think the whole argument just flew over your head.
I'm just asking.
I said women go into career fields that pay less because of their personal choices, not because they're being discriminated against because they're a woman.
As a matter of fact, female models get paid more than male models if we want to talk about sexism.
There you go.
Sexism inherently benefits women.
You guys can't refute that.
That's facts.
Sexism benefits women, and you still can't name anything where a man benefits from sexism.
The only one that I could think of is him being able to have sex with a bunch of chicks and not get judged for it.
So the wage gap is a myth.
It doesn't exist.
I just debunked it.
And sexism benefits women.
You did not debunk it.
You can look up the UN statistic right now.
You can have your own statistic, and I'm going to have mine, but that's from the UN, and I believe that.
Is the UN always right?
They've been wrong multiple times.
Yeah, and then someone actually proved them wrong.
Okay, that's just one statistic that I'm talking about.
That's from something that I had written.
That's a statistic that I remember that stuck with me forever that I had studied in college and whatnot.
I think Tyson Beckford was the only one that paid the same as the female models.
We also got to remember that we're talking about the United States here specifically.
The United Nations probably extrapolates data from all over the world.
That's kind of irrelevant to the conversation at hand.
In first world, modern English-speaking countries like the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, etc., Canada, the wage gap does not exist because women dominate men in college attendance, yet they still go into professions that pay less because of choice.
Women get paid less not because they're women, but because of their personal choices into what they want to go into when it comes to a profession.
And I quite literally just named it.
I got some other stats, too, that men contribute for about 30 years of their life while women contribute only about 18 years of their life.
Men stay in the workforce longer than women.
Women are a net negative $140,000 per year versus men, as shown in New Zealand.
So by every metric, men just work harder and longer than women do.
It's a fact.
Just hold it, Elle.
Women get paid less because they deserve less.
It's been proven statistically several times.
By the way, the UN was wrong about the bear bug.
About what?
The bear bug.
I don't want to say what it was, but you know, the jab.
Anyhow, it's fine.
Alright, where are we at here?
Did anyone else have something?
You were going to say something?
No.
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Leprecoon, to the feminine...
Feminine.
You're not special with that fake major and Rashida ain't from South Philly.
She looks like K&A. What the fuck is K&A? Who's Feminine?
Is that me?
What is K&A? I don't know.
Am I Feminine?
Who's Feminine?
He's talking about that fake major.
He's probably talking about me.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
He called you feminine because of blonde hair.
Instead of Eminem.
Oh, it's you?
Oh, instead of Eminem.
Okay, I get what you're saying.
Oh, they're grinding us up.
So, because you guys were saying before, going back to the original conversation, that men, you know, it's fine.
Let's move on.
It's fine.
Okay.
I think I've already established that women have to pursue the guy more for the relationship to work.
Versus if the guy pursues the girl, she's going to think he's a loser.
Was that Kensington and Allegheny?
Oh, don't ever play with me.
I will shoot you up.
Oh, shit.
I don't know what's going on here.
I'm from Philly.
We know what we're talking about.
Watch your mouth.
Just got the book looking forward to telling the world why women deserve less.
Yeah, I mean, Alright, let's keep going.
Link is below, guys, if y'all want to get the book.
I go into detail.
That is so racist.
Y'all not even cool.
And y'all spent $20.
That's what I'm saying.
You spent 19 dollars.
Why y'all snapping on them?
They didn't even pass Are you smarter than the fifth grader?
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By the way, would any girl on the panel date someone of these metrics?
Bro, why are you following these chicks, bro?
Yeah, bro.
What the hell's wrong with you?
For what?
You want to explain that, brother?
Got to go to the soundboard, okay?
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I work from 8 a.m.
to 8 p.m., but only on weekdays.
What's a good side hustle I can implement on my weekends to keep productivity up to 100%?
Start an online business, bro.
Yeah.
That's going to be the move.
And then, guys, we got 14,000 of y'all watching right now, and I think another 10,000 plus on Rumble.
So we got almost 30,000 of you guys watching live.
So do me a favor.
Like the video.
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Guys, like the video.
Subscribe to the channel on YouTube.
Also, go ahead and subscribe to the channel on Rumble.
Where else we at?
Oh, girl wants her man to check in every three hours is going to be the next Jodi Arias, toxic as fuck.
You have anything you want to say back to him?
Facts.
Remember earlier you made the comment how your dude didn't hit you up and like it was fucking with your trust issues.
He was trying to throw shade.
Into the mic.
Check him.
He said what?
Check him once.
Every three hours.
First of all, I would never be no Jodie Arish.
She stabbed her nigga 27 times.
It wouldn't be that.
You'd only stab him seven, right?
No, I would stab him zero.
I'll leave him alone.
Stop the gap.
Excalibur goes, ladies, there's been this misconception that women mature faster than men.
If so, why do most women live in a parallel universe clouded by delusion?
What factors makes you mature faster and why?
Okay, do you think women mature fast in men?
Mmm...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why?
Why?
I don't know, I guess.
I mean, I couldn't tell you why.
That's just something that I know that I had learned.
What was that?
I said, if you're mature, you'll be able to tell us why.
If it's mature?
Okay.
Why do women mature faster?
I suppose it has something to do with hormones like that.
I can't tell you why exactly.
So you think physically?
Physically?
Yeah, sure.
You think they mature more mentally as well?
Mentally?
Could be.
I think so.
In a lot of cases, women tend to want older men too because it matches their level.
That sort of thing of maturity, of mentality, or that sort of thing.
Do you think it's them being mature or just wanting a guy that is better than themselves for security purposes?
Could be both.
Why not both?
Interesting.
Okay.
What about you?
Who do you think matures faster, men or women?
I would say men.
Men?
Why?
Because of the fact that they are known to be the breadwinners.
They're known to be strong.
They're not known to come off as vulnerable or weak.
Let me just say vulnerable.
I would say weak-minded or whatever.
So they have to learn from young.
Alright.
What about you?
Do you think men or women mature faster?
I believe women do.
Why?
You know, a lot of men are baby growing up.
And it's no size, but a lot of mothers baby their sons more and keep them in a tuck more because they're more prone to walking outside and getting shot type shit.
So, you know, they don't really experience the shit that the females do.
We get kicked out at 16 once we start growing through our hormones and our parents yelling out a lot.
So I think women mature faster.
And I do think, you know, for the lucky men that are out there, they do get baby and protect them more just because of the way society is.
Okay.
Do you think men or women live a harder life in general then?
Fuck Men Yeah.
So, wouldn't that kind of refute what you just said?
Kind of, but not really.
I'm only thinking about personal stuff.
I'm not really thinking about in general.
I'm thinking about the way I see my brother.
I had it easy growing up, but he didn't really have it growing up.
He had to really be in the streets more than me and really hustle and shit like that.
But I don't know if maturity came with that or just the streets.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I can't see.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that if you live a harder life that you have to mature faster?
Yes, that's it.
So is it really true that women mature faster?
That's in direct contradiction of what you just said.
Me, personally, I feel like I mature faster than the men I've met in my life.
I can't speak for everybody else.
We'll ask the question in general.
And then when it comes to safety, if men or women who's not safer, I feel like men aren't really safe when it comes to that.
Women kind of are taken care of.
I didn't ask that, but okay.
Okay.
What about you?
Who do you think matures faster, men or women?
Um, I would say men mature faster because they pretty much come into this life with the idea that they have to provide and protect.
So, I guess that would be...
Alright, so you think men?
Alright, who do you think matures faster, men or women?
Based on what y'all was talking about, I think it depends on circumstances.
Okay.
In general, what do you think?
If we line up 100 women versus 100 men, who do you think is going to be more mature?
Both of them are, let's say, 25 years old.
Or sorry, both parties are all 25 years old.
I mean, I grew up learning that it's women, but I can't necessarily agree with that because I haven't looked it up myself.
Or known at trials and tribulations.
Others went there.
Okay.
Well, who do you think has a harder life, men or women?
Again, it depends.
In general?
It depends.
What's coming up in my head is men.
Because, you know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I just feel that they don't necessarily have it as easy as women, at least for me.
You know, like my brothers, they were expected to just grow up a little bit faster because they're men.
So would it be fair to say then by that extension that men have to mature faster because they live a harder life?
I would assume so, but only some.
What about you?
I think women.
Okay, why do you say women?
Because a man isn't considered a mature man until he's the age 21 and older.
At least that's what I was raised until.
A woman is considered a mature woman at the age of 18 because women are emotionally intelligent.
We think with our emotions and everything...
Can you define what emotionally intelligent is?
I can't define that right now.
So you just used a word that you don't know the definition of?
I didn't say I didn't know the definition.
I just can't define it right now.
What?
That means you don't know.
That means you don't know what the word means.
It don't matter.
I just think women mature faster than men.
That's just how I was raised and taught.
Yes, Mari.
But you said it's because of emotional intelligence.
Yeah, because women do act off emotions a lot.
Okay, let me ask you a question then.
You said women act off emotions.
Would it be fair to say that your emotions are always changing?
Yes.
And they're erratic?
No, depends.
Well, you could be sad one man, then happy another, etc.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay, so wouldn't it be fair to say that maturity, a component of maturity is being able to control your emotions?
Logic, in a sense.
Okay, who's better at controlling their emotions, men or women?
Women.
Really?
He's contradicting us.
Sorry.
Y'all are contradicting yourselves.
I'm just asking questions.
I'm just asking questions.
You guys make zero sense.
You're like an alligator in the water.
It's like, yo, I'm just saying.
Here's the thing.
The reason why...
Welcome to Fresh Fit, ladies, where we challenge you on your thought process.
The reason why women don't think critically like this a lot of times is because men rarely challenge women under delusional takes.
You literally said we're more emotionally intelligent.
I said define that.
You can't define it.
Then you're like, well, women are more emotional.
Okay, well, being more emotional doesn't mean you're more erratic.
Yes, it does.
Well, who's better at controlling their emotions?
You said women.
No, that's not true at all.
Men are better at controlling their emotions.
As a matter of fact, a tenement of masculinity is controlling your emotions.
I think men are...
I think men think logical for the most part.
And women are very emotional.
I agree to that because I have a lot of homeboys and brothers.
Which is a component of maturity.
Not really because sometimes y'all use logic.
I'm loud.
Sometimes y'all...
Right, right, right.
I'm sorry.
Sometimes you guys use logic a lot for times where logic isn't needed and it's time for emotion.
Like to really feel and push it out there.
When is emotion really necessary?
It's never necessary.
No, no, no.
I'm not scared of it.
When is it necessary?
Let me keep checking what they're saying because they shouldn't have gave us these drinks.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We purposely tell y'all not to drink before the show.
No, I'm telling you.
It was a joke, y'all.
It wasn't even...
That's not a funny joke.
Alright, I ain't going to say the joke.
Alright, so what were you going to say?
What did you say?
You said you were questioning...
He was asking...
You asked her...
When is it necessary to be emotional?
Yeah.
I mean, during times where it's not clear, during times it needs clarity.
You know what I'm saying?
A lot of times I feel like men move really logical when they see a woman that's emotional.
When they see a woman that's emotional and say I'm coming to my dude emotional and we got some things we got to talk about.
And it involves having emotion and feeling and talking about, you know, why y'all even together?
Okay, give us an example.
How would you come at him emotionally?
Give me an example.
How would you come at him emotionally?
So if something happened, I would ask to talk.
I'd be like, hey, can we talk?
Like, can we sit down and talk about it?
Like, you know, I'm feeling a certain way.
Things not right.
So I would want to sit and talk about it.
Would you come crying?
Would you come angry?
You said emotional.
So what is the emotion here?
The emotion is just saying how you truly feel.
Fuck you, nigga!
So you come in emotionally.
Do you think that's productive for him to also come in emotionally as well?
I mean, once it comes time for that, yes.
I mean, not saying be an emotional rollercoaster on both ends.
Like, ah, full of emotion.
But when it comes to, you know, I'm unsure of something.
I'm sorry.
I'm unsure of something.
I need clarity.
It involves...
I'm curious.
Wouldn't you want a sound, chill, relaxed person to say, you know what?
You know what, baby?
Don't worry about that.
How about try this?
How about try this?
Isn't that better than being emotional?
I mean, I don't mean you gotta cry, y'all.
I mean, just show that you care.
Yeah, he cares because he's giving you either a listening ear or a solution.
I don't want no man that's gonna throw a ruler down and say count the numbers and figure it out yourself.
But that's not what happens.
Yeah, that's his emotions, though.
He listens to you, takes it in.
Alright, baby.
Here's what you can do if you want to change it.
If not, I'm just here to listen.
That's it.
That's being logical.
Here's the thing.
Being emotional rarely is ever good.
And if you guys don't believe me, look at a prison that's filled with emotional guys that couldn't control their emotions as a critical component and does something stupid and hurts somebody.
So, when men are emotional, there's dire consequences.
The reason why women can be emotional is because, I'll be honest with y'all, you guys rarely face physical consequences for your emotions.
If you talk to a guy crazy, a lot of times they're not going to talk, shampunch you.
But when a man does that, if you come in, there might be physical consequences.
I don't mean to be rude, but I'll use you as an example.
At the beginning of this podcast, you were fairly disrespectful in the beginning.
Damn.
But had you been a man, you would have probably got punched.
But you're a woman.
You were able to use that to your advantage and act in a disrespectful manner to a degree.
How was I disrespectful?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me finish my point.
You definitely were.
You were being disrespectful, but it's fine because you were.
You were.
Objectively speaking, you were.
So, but what I'm saying is that, and I'm just using this as an example, the reason why you were able to do that is because you're a woman and you're not going to bear the same physical consequences as if you were a man.
Very rarely do men meet each other that don't know each other and speak to each other in a kind of way because there's always that potential for physical consequences.
Okay?
We call it, you know, when it comes to, think of like nuclear weapons, mutually assured destruction.
The reason why we don't shoot nukes at Russia and why they don't shoot nukes at us is because we're going to shoot them at each other and both kill each other.
Men understand this silent agreement that you're going to respect me because there's physical consequence.
Women, however, are allowed the privilege of acting ridiculous, being loud, being disrespectful, because quite frankly, y'all don't get punched in the face.
That's the truth.
Okay?
And I'm not advocating for that, but what I am saying is that women know deep down a man isn't going to punch them, which is why they act the way that they do.
However, when it grows around other women a lot of times, they might check that a bit because there's that potential for physical consequence.
I have a question.
That's for your own shit because that ain't even who I am.
I'm going to just keep it real, but I respect what you're saying.
What I'm saying is that if you had acted the way you acted as a man, there would possibly be some physical consequences, yet a woman can get away with behaving that way.
I don't even know when I felt like I was...
Maybe when y'all was telling me to chill, so if that's what y'all saying when I was disrespectful, all right?
But I think the same way, like, I know my place.
I didn't even feel like I was arguing with you because I would have said, I know my place as a woman.
You a man, and if I was a nigga, I would have knocked you on your shit.
So we touche.
What?
What?
You probably thought you wasn't disrespectful.
I wasn't disrespectful to y'all.
I was more so putting my feeling into the conversation.
And y'all took it personal.
We were actually very calm and responded accordingly.
Imagine if we were actually emotional like you.
I wasn't even talking to y'all.
See, here's the difference.
When you were acting that way, we stayed calm and said, hey, relax.
I don't know if you noticed it.
We gave a very unemotional response to your emotional.
And I'm using this to display the importance of emotional constraint as a man.
We're not going to turn up with you and be like, yo, shut up, bitch, blah, blah, blah.
We're not going to do that.
We're just like, yo, chill.
And it was diffused versus when you were acting emotional, we weren't like acting crazy because you never match emotion with emotion.
It's not productive.
But as I was going to say, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
At least that's how I was taught.
So you probably thought you wasn't disrespectful.
They probably took it as that because of how you were saying it.
But my passion went that deep into my statement.
It was nothing towards you two kings at all.
So I'm sorry y'all even took it that way.
That's why you're still here.
Well, thank you.
Thank you, guys.
I feel like I calmed down.
That's why I'm still here.
You were trying to say something?
I was just going to ask you, so would you say that a woman's unfiltered mouth in an argument equates to a man physically harming her?
Right.
That's an interesting question.
Well, I quite literally said it a second ago.
I'm not advocating for violence against women.
No, no, no.
I'm just like, I'm asking you because I want to say I saw something on Instagram and it was something about like, A woman, like her unfiltered mouth in an argument equates to, you know, a man pretty much putting his hands on her.
I'm not gonna lie.
We don't advocate that.
I'm not gonna lie.
No, I'm not saying you advocate it.
She's poorly stating it, but what she's saying is that it's the functional equivalent.
Like, her berating him and being disrespectful is a functional equivalent to him putting hands on her.
Okay.
I was more so asking your opinion on that.
Like, do you agree with that statement?
Do you think that that equates to...
I mean, it's extremely disrespectful.
And for men, right, a lot of times they can't retaliate because, you know, well, number one, you don't want to get down to her level and be emotional as well, which a lot of guys do.
They end up being emotional because there's no other recourse.
At least with a man, you could punch him in the face.
Right?
But with a woman, you can't do that.
That's crazy.
So you can't do that, which is why men don't speak to each other crazy that they don't know.
But women all the time speak crazy to men that they don't know because they know there's no real physical consequence.
There's people around.
They know that even if the guy does something to them, there's going to be some consequences on that guy.
So I think a big reason why so many women are more emotional and disrespect a lot of men is because they can get away with it, simply put, without consequences.
Okay.
I told them you're the wrong man.
Yeah.
I mean, there's some weirdos out there that are always looking to fucking hit a girl with the...
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I tell girls, like, don't act crazy because there are dudes out there that are waiting to world star you.
That's why I let you stay strapped always because sometimes these niggas is pussy and you got to put them in their place because they don't know that...
Or just don't talk to them crazy.
And they better not talk crazy neither.
But it's men out here that would talk crazy like that because they know that a female won't put their hands on them because they're so masculine.
They know they're stronger than a female.
I would say it's women that antagonize a lot of the time.
You can't argue with this because I've been in an abusive relationship.
So let's talk about it.
You've been in a relationship?
Yes.
So that's your standpoint?
That's not my standpoint, but I'm saying you can't argue with me with that.
Like, I've been in an abusive relationship.
Okay, what did we say earlier?
Generally.
Your personal experience doesn't reflect reality.
It doesn't, but you're speaking on like every woman.
Because if you're saying that, then the people that you done made votes with, theirs don't count neither.
Like when you got a tally or whatever, you said 100 men then voted this, you could say the same about her because that could have been her vote.
Yeah, but it don't matter.
I don't see the connection there.
I'm confused.
What I'm saying is that women get away with berating and antagonizing men and talking to them any kind of way most of the time because men can't give them physical consequences.
That's what I'm saying.
Berating women?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man can talk crazy to a female because he knows that that female most likely is not going to put her hands on him because he's masculine.
You know, interesting that you mention that because they actually did.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I disagree with you and I'll tell you why.
Yeah.
They did an experiment with this.
They had two couples.
See, this is why your personal experience doesn't matter.
No offense.
So they took a couple, right?
And the woman was braiding the man.
Even hitting him.
No one called the police.
However, they flipped it.
The guy was braiding her in public.
Just screaming at her.
They called the police immediately and people stepped in.
So please tell me again how women aren't necessarily antagonized all the time.
This is a biased statement.
This is very biased.
How is it biased?
It was literally an experiment that they conducted.
No, I agree with you, but I'm saying that's just certain situations.
That's certain situations.
That's like a vote again.
Okay.
The conclusion was that I came to was women are able to break men with less consequence.
Okay?
Then she says, that's not true because I've been berated.
Then I said, okay, your personal experience doesn't reflect reality.
And then I used the experiment where they did two different situations.
Man berates woman, police called immediately, people step in to separate them.
Woman berates man, even assaults man, no one does anything.
So I gave that experiment.
To solidify my stance that women can berate men with less consequences than men berating women.
I'm not saying it doesn't occur, but what I am saying is that men are more likely to face consequences for berating a woman publicly than a woman berating a man.
Okay.
Which is true.
Yeah.
Okay.
So therefore, your point is incorrect.
No, it's not.
No, it's not, baby.
You might have experienced, but that does not reflect the general consensus in reality.
It does, though, because it's females out here that experience that, too.
Yeah, but the majority don't.
We're not normalizing the women that go do that on a daily basis.
See, you're making this an emotional argument.
I'm not making it emotional.
I'm just asking.
You're attributing it right back to yourself.
I'm not attributing it.
I'm genuinely asking the question.
I'm telling you that.
What's the question?
Like, how do y'all know?
I just told you.
When the experiment was done, men were stopped immediately.
But you're saying it don't matter.
How do you know it don't matter?
What?
You're saying her personal point doesn't matter.
Whatever she went through, it doesn't matter because of the social experiment.
Just because my personal experience is...
Take yourself out of your own experience for one moment and say, okay, cool.
Generally speaking, if this happens in public, what's going to happen?
They didn't experiment.
You saw the results.
So your experience, while it may be valid for you, is valid for every other girl.
We're just saying, matter of fact, public experiment showed.
Generally speaking, here's how things play out.
And I'm not disagreeing with that.
I'm not disagreeing with that at all.
But I'm just saying, like, don't sit here and say that women can antagonize men and do all this other stuff, but men can't do it, too.
Because men can do it, too.
Excluding their actions.
We never said that they can't do it.
They're more likely to be held accountable for doing it, though.
Yeah.
Right.
I agree with you.
So what are we arguing here?
There's no argument.
Thank you.
Who said we're arguing?
Okay, I don't know what...
What was that, bro?
What she was doing was trying to validify that it occurred to her and she felt like we were undermining her experience.
I wasn't trying to validify it.
I was just saying.
And then he tried to undermine her experience.
No, just because it's insignificant to the overall picture of what we're talking about.
I don't feel that he was intentionally trying to disregard what you've been through personally, but I think he's genuinely speaking on the generalization of...
I know that.
See, this is what I mean.
I don't know if y'all just noticed this, but this is what I mean when I say women are inherently more narcissistic.
Like, I'm saying an objective fact, and from my objective fact, you extrapolate your personal experience and say, this happened to me, so this is what I think happened, how it really goes.
And I'm like, that's cool, but your experience is insignificant to the overall conversation.
I'm keeping it objective, you're making it subjective.
Ladies, notice every time we speak, it's not how we feel.
It's like, you know what?
Here's reality.
Here's how it is.
Women don't like it, but Fuck it.
It's the difference between how men think and how women think.
Y'all are responding with your emotions right now, which proves what I say.
Men are logically and rationally sound.
Women are emotionally sound.
I said you guys are logic earlier.
Remember?
Well, I said a lot.
Logic.
Okay.
Yeah, but this podcast has displayed that when we've made logical arguments, you guys responded with emotion or your own personal experience, which is insignificant to the conversation at hand.
Yo, let's go to Rumble.
I'm about to go in, nigga.
We got some more chats here.
Okay.
All right.
So, Jody off the block, 50 bucks.
Chris, if you don't get to gas and Tasha from the back...
Yardigans?
Yardigans.
Who do you mean?
I'm unaware.
King Nelly, the panel is set up from Myron, Marsha, P. Johnson, Aunt Jemima, G.I. Jane, She-Hulk, Cumbrella, Kim Possible, and Fresh.
I'll take G.I. Jane.
I'll take Kim Possible.
Kim Possible.
Because I love Kim Possible.
All right, so he's calling you Marsha P. Johnson.
Who's that?
Aunt Jemima.
No, but like, who's that?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Aunt Jemima.
Aunt Jemima, that's funny.
G-I-J, bro.
G-I-J. G-I-J. They called you G-I-J. They called you G-I-J. They called you Cumbrella because of your eyelashes.
And they called you Kim Possible.
I do lift weights.
Yeah, she's impossible.
I got long lashes without the lashes.
I'm not denying it.
Pause with the other stuff.
I'm glad I met you guys.
It is a little hard to understand her points, but it's fine.
$100?
Every one of your sentences is like, like, like, like, and I'm just like, okay.
You want me to take out all the likes and just give you the skinny?
It would be a lot easier to understand you if you did, yes.
Well, sometimes you kind of just throw these kind of nonsensical questions so it kind of takes some time to formulate an answer.
What question specifically was nonsensical?
Why are you asking who deserves a gift more?
That doesn't make any sense to me.
Who cares about that?
For me, who cares about that?
Let's both get each other gifts.
It is not about you, ma'am.
Generally speaking, a man on Valentine's Day is not the same as a woman on Valentine's Day.
Obviously speaking, who's the day for?
Mainly for women.
However, if I ask you personally speaking, what do you think?
Oh, you know what?
My man does a lot for me.
I think he deserves a gift.
That's your own personal opinion, which I appreciate.
We're just saying, generally speaking, who deserves the day more?
Women.
But if men put in the work, then give your man a gift.
This is a question.
Okay.
I think the point of the question was to illustrate the I guess, level of reciprocation that women typically don't give back to men in relationships.
Pretty much.
It was to illustrate that.
Got it.
And a lot of times to illustrate that, we got to get an answer from you guys first, get a sample, and then respond accordingly.
That is the reason why.
Okay.
So it made perfect sense.
That's fine.
I just didn't think there was a reason to ask it.
Well, I just established why.
Hey, well, I don't think there is a reason to answer it.
It's a podcast.
You know, answer the question.
I mean, it's to get a sample size.
You did really good.
Yeah, it's fine.
You did good this podcast, though.
You did good.
Waylander!
Don't let her, man.
I don't think it's a reason to answer the question.
What's she lying to?
She's lying to you!
Alright, guys, come on over to Rumble.
Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit, man.
You're getting terrible, nigga!
Guys, come on over.
Rumble.com slash Fresh and Fit, alright?
And then I'll finish reading these chats over there.
I'm about to go in, nigga.
Okay, we got Minnesota Liz here.
As a psychologist slash custody evaluator, I promise you that fresh and fit are correct.
You cannot fight nature.
You will be happier and safer with making your man happy.
Oh, that's coming from a woman, too.
There you go.
And a psychologist.
Shout out to you.
Hey, Marin.
Hypothetically speaking, if I were to sell rugs, how much money would it be for the IRS to catch us?
Catch on.
Yeah, bro, you don't want that.
Them 21 USC charges are no joke, my friend.
Angel Cardenas, 50 bucks.
To the girl in the red, you won't get kicked off the podcast for empowering women, but you will get kicked out for being loud and obnoxious.
You can share your opinion, but don't be disrespectful.
Just take a deep breath.
You'll be all right.
LOL. Thank you.
I'm going to take it.
IRS. Oh, okay.
Y'all chicks know when Valentine's Day is, but do y'all know when you have to run me my money?
You better pay what you owe or I'm coming for you.
you okay that's goddamn all right shout out to your irs i can use that i'm in two that's my dilemma i I used to be, and you know, since our questions are nonsense, take this time to come up with a good question, and we'd be happy to answer one of yours.
How about that?
That's fair.
Think about it.
Thank you for the opportunity, though.
Well, we always turn into ladies to ask at the end.
In case our questions are nonsensical.
Hey, I want a lot of you.
You're a pain in ass to deal with, man.
What?
No, it's growing a red hair, man.
Goddamn.
Red hair?
Yes.
Why?
Because, bro, her questioning, her demeanor, bro, I know why she's single-minded.
Goddamn.
And your girlfriend is where?
Yes.
You have a Valentine where?
Where's your Valentine?
Where is where?
He ain't glad.
He gonna be crying tomorrow.
Shut up.
Raise your hand if you're with someone right now.
I can be.
One girl?
I have a Valentine.
Who, who, who?
Who what?
I used to heavily talk to this girl, but she switched up and chose another guy.
That didn't work out, so now she's back.
Most certainly not taking her serious after that, but I should play the game and get what I want or just walk away?
Just walk away.
It depends on you, bro.
But honestly speaking, there's two sites here.
Myron was going to say just walk away.
I'm going to say get what you want, bro.
No, use her for sex and just throw it to the curb.
That's what you do.
Men in society today, that's what I do.
Hold on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Did you guys read the first part of the question?
He said he heavily talks to a girl, but she switched up and chose another guy.
Okay, so there's action, correct?
Correct.
So for every action, there's a reaction, correct?
Just walk away.
There's consequences, aren't there?
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so in my eyes, she deserves less, and she gets what's coming to her.
So just walk away.
Okay, so that's how you feel.
So how does that make you any better than her, though?
How would that make you any better than her?
So, okay, she went and chose another guy, and now she's back.
You've accepted her back into your life, and now you're just going to use her for sex.
Well, okay, that's a very female.
I'm not disagreeing with what I am.
Well, I'll tell you why you're incorrect here in a second.
What you just gave is a very female perspective.
Women rarely, if ever, contribute to the relationships from a financial and, how do I say, time standpoint.
Especially in the courtship process in the beginning.
Men have to do all the work.
Men have to do most of the pursuing, most of the work, and invest.
So what I'm saying is that he should recuperate that lost time, get the sex he was trying to get before she picked somebody else, and fight fire with fire.
Why not just walk away?
Well, that's easy for you to say when you haven't invested any time or money into the relationship, but for men, we always have to invest time or money.
Who's to say I didn't invest time and money in the relationship?
Y'all don't want the woman to.
And that's ungrateful.
Y'all don't want the woman to, though.
Really?
Yes, because it's a threat.
Most of the time, men tend to want a stay-at-home woman.
They don't want her to go out in the field and then, like, ask her.
Here's the reality.
If a girl pays for a first date, there's a high likelihood that you're not going to see her for a second one.
That's messed up.
If a woman making too much, she getting treated like shit because now the man is insecure.
Can I ask why?
No, no, no.
That's incorrect because A thousand percent.
Men feel emosculated when a woman makes more.
I'm telling you.
They get threatened.
Now they try to talk to other bitches that don't even matter to try to build their manhood back up.
You guys say this?
Appreciate me, motherfucker.
But the reality is when a woman makes more money than a guy or she's significantly financially better off than him, she doesn't even give him a chance.
Or if she does, it doesn't last.
Women don't do well when they're in a breadwinner position with a man.
Because then the man starts doing insecure things because he feels like, oh damn, I can't reach.
I'm saying he doesn't even get the chance is what I'm trying to say.
And also that man.
But what if you treat him like a king?
He can't respect you because you know why?
You're leading him.
And women don't build.
They move in.
Like you guys are saying all these like situations where I'm in and blah, blah, blah.
Women typically don't pick men that are bums.
And if they do, it never lasts.
Let me ask you.
You know how you said that if a woman was to take a man out on a date, well, if I was to go out on a date and she pays for her meal for everything first, most likely it's not going to be a second date.
Why is that?
If you were to go out on a date with a girl and she paid for the date, you're not going out with her again for a second date?
It's not up to the man.
What I'm saying is that if the woman pays for the first date, she more than likely won't go out with him again.
Okay.
Let's be honest here.
Like, I mean, are we gonna...
It depends.
No, honestly, let me...
If it's the girl asking...
See, she's even saying it, bro.
If we line up 100 chicks...
Yeah.
95 of them are going to feel some type of way if she's got to pay for the first day and probably won't go out with them again.
I'm serious.
Women rarely ever invest in men in the beginning.
Women don't do that.
So what I'm saying, going back to answering her question, why would you do that?
Why not just walk away?
It's easy for women to say that because most of the time women invest little to nothing in the beginning of relationships.
Men invest everything.
So what I'm saying is that recoup what you lost.
Fuck her and toss her to the side of the road.
She deserves it.
She threw him to the curb.
Yo, why do y'all not want to deal with consequences?
See, this is what I'm trying to say.
Y'all expect to treat men poorly and then not get treated poorly back.
It is crazy to me how women don't understand the concept of consequences.
Y'all men tend to think as revenge.
Y'all revengeful.
Y'all don't think just to reciprocate the energy.
Y'all tend to go outside.
Did she reciprocate?
Nope.
Come on, man.
Like, what's going on here, bro?
The only way I'm taking somebody out to eat, I'm not doing it the first date, is once I appreciate you and know you deserve that shit.
I'm taking you to the five star.
They slicing the meat off the joint.
We're picking it up right there.
But not the first date.
But not the first date, because now I'm wearing a strap on.
No.
That was a whole argument.
I can honestly say, like, When a man wants to take a female on a date and he's the one that's bringing it up like, hey, I'm going to take you on a date, he's obligated to pay because when you bring it up, you want to take me out.
So obviously you're obligated to pay.
That's exactly what we said.
But if I'm trying to take you out, I'm going to pay.
You didn't necessarily say that.
Hold on.
You just said you take men out, right?
I said if I want to take a man out, yeah.
When is the last time you actually did that?
The last time you did that?
The last time I was in a relationship.
Which was?
Well, no, you were in a relationship, but did you take him out on the first date?
Don't cap.
No.
So what are you arguing for?
She's just been making a bunch of imaginary arguments.
I'm asking questions.
I'm genuinely asking you questions.
Nobody's arguing.
No, I'm asking him a question because he said that.
I fucking forgot what he said.
But I'm just asking questions.
Nobody's arguing.
Nobody's arguing.
I just want to know where this is going.
I'm just asking questions based on his answers.
Yeah, they ask him like, Women don't pay for first dates, and if they do, there's a high likelihood that you will never get a second date, period.
Because where did that even come from?
Like, where did that get birth from?
Like, I understand taking your men on a date, but like...
I never...
This is me truly asking.
Like, when has that ever happened?
Your actions.
Wait, when has whatever happened?
Like, a woman taking a man on a first date.
I've never even seen that or even heard it in conversation.
It can happen where a woman's successful, very masculine.
Alright, let me ask the panel real quick.
I want to see how much they're paying attention.
Do you guys even know how we got here?
You came out of the canals that we have.
No, no.
How do we get to this topic just now?
Oh.
Do y'all know why we're even on this topic right now?
We were talking about loving dating from the get, right?
No, we were talking about women not coming to terms with accepting consequences.
It was something about the first date.
That's what I heard.
Let me walk this back real fast.
Clearly, you guys weren't paying attention.
What happened was, the guy said, should I take this girl back after she curbed me for another man?
Right?
That's what happened.
Then I said, yes, go ahead and have sex with her and kick her to the curb.
All of you guys responded, typically like females.
Oh my god, that's fucked up!
No, I'm sorry, I agree with you.
I didn't say that.
I agree with you.
I'm sorry.
Grab me up.
Do what you gotta do.
I agree with y'all.
Okay, so I said, kick her to the side of the road.
Then she responds, well, why?
And then I explained deeply that men typically have to invest the majority of time, resources, and money in the beginning of courtship, which I assume he did, which is why he's not happy about her going to another guy.
So I said, to respond to that, she fucked you over, now it's time to fuck her and throw her to the side of the road, to which you guys all disagreed with.
I'm sorry.
That's how we arrived here.
Too wrong to make a right.
You feel me?
Because at that point...
No consequences to your actions, right?
Why would you take a girl back?
Why would you take a female back?
I just explained it.
Look, why would you take...
Because he invested money in time.
That's why he's taking it back to get sex to the side of the road.
Young fella, you are a saint.
And when you take a female back that chose someone else over you, you know that other relationship she chose over you didn't work.
Because she clearly was a piece of shit.
So you going back to her and trying to what?
Rekindle?
Run through?
Run through, homie.
Run through.
You're repeating what he's just saying.
It's cool.
I don't care.
I'm agreeing.
Who else for your opinion?
I'm Rashida.
Rashida.
This is incredible.
I'm a lawnmower.
I heard he's a milk dad.
I don't know.
I have many female friends that work as travel nurses and they all admitted the men blows them out the water with overtime.
Even in my career in container logistics, which is blue collar, the women in my job don't work as much as the men in overtime.
This is for your argument with the wage gap.
I mean, men do women overtime.
This isn't even like disputable.
Men work more than women do and work harder than women do in every metric of labor.
I wasn't talking about who works harder, who does more.
But that's important.
Because that directly dictates how much you get paid, which is the whole argument for the wage gap.
Well, I wasn't saying, like, how much you get paid, necessarily.
I was saying, like, typically, like, the studies say, a woman makes 75 cents for every dollar a man makes.
That's the point that I was trying to get at.
Now, who works more?
I'm telling you, it's incorrect.
They say a woman earns 75 cents on every dollar a man makes.
That's not true.
Because, again, they don't account for...
Okay, let me ask you a question, so I can get your basic knowledge.
Do you know where that study comes from?
I don't know, so long ago.
It was in college.
That's the problem.
That study is aggregated from all working men versus all working women.
It does not account for career, education, length of time worked, experience, or any other professional accolades.
It only takes full-time working men versus full-time working women.
That's why the women get paid less, because it's all working people.
But when you actually account for the variables that matter...
Education, experience, etc.
The wage gap evaporates, which is what I was describing before.
And there's a multitude of reasons why men get paid more.
So that study that you're talking about is built upon faulty data.
You cannot compare all working men to all working women because you're not accounting for critical factors that influence how much they get paid.
Make sense?
My question is, why are we both spewing statistics, and I'm not citing my sources, and you're not citing your sources, but your sources are right and mine are wrong?
Because the wage gap has been debunked since the 1970s.
I don't hear any of your sources.
You're talking about studies, experiments, whatever.
I'm not hearing any authors.
I have a book that literally has all the studies here from the Department of Labor.
A government website from the United States that accounts for labor from the two genders.
And I just quite literally read it for you earlier, the top 10 jobs that men work versus the top 10 jobs that women work.
Mm-hmm.
That is indisputable.
And then also, again, I'm telling you where your study stems from.
It comes from all working men, from all working women.
The only reason I'm able to rebut and refute your argument is because I know what your argument is.
And I have all my studies here.
I have a whole link tree on this.
The wage gap has been debunked since the 1970s.
It's just common sense.
I'll look into it.
It's not necessarily common sense because common sense isn't that common.
I can see that.
Because if you could actually hire women for less, no one would employ men.
It's about profit and businesses.
If I was a business owner, I would never hire men if I could actually get away with paying them 80 cents on the dollar.
I have a question.
No, no more questions.
The wage gap does not exist.
It's been debunked a million times.
Women get paid less because they deserve less.
That is why.
That is the truth.
They don't work as hard and they don't work jobs that create infrastructure, which are the higher paying jobs.
And you're allowed to think that.
It's not that I think, this is a fact.
From the government?
He's one guy, but it's a fact.
I'll look into your sources and I'll consider whether it's fact efficient.
Yeah, I'll consider it because I'm not going to believe everything that somebody just tells me.
I'm like, I haven't read this book.
I haven't read any sources.
I'm going to read a part of it real quick.
Women were, on average, only net economic contributors for 15 years of their lives compared to 30 years for men.
So they required men and generally independent women to pick up the slack through direct income transfers or added taxation.
As a result, the total of women's net economic contribution was tallied at equaled negative $140,000.
And that was in New Zealand, another first world country just like the United States, because the study would never work in the United States.
OK, so basically, OK, men give way more economic value than women do.
Women are net negative because what I told you before, they go into career fields that don't generate revenue to the same degree.
They're social science type stuff and they don't create infrastructure and they're not laborious or risk taking.
They're not laborious.
Yes, as in difficult to do physically.
Women don't go into physical manual labor jobs.
Can't you say the same about men in jobs where you need to have some sort of emotional intelligence?
Wouldn't it be harder for them and it's easier for women?
But unfortunately, those aren't the jobs that pay as much.
They might not pay as much, but there's still a demand in society nonetheless.
Well, you and every other girl wants that job.
Versus no one wants to be an Alaskan fisherman or an offshore driller.
You think everybody wants to be a social worker?
Yes.
That's a lot of paperwork involved.
It's overwhelmingly female.
You made the choice.
It might be overwhelmingly female, but it's not necessarily like...
Easier are the best thing in the world either.
You deal with a lot of tough shit.
Did someone put a gun to your head and say you got to be a social worker?
And you say, you know what?
I want to do this.
You go in to help people.
Well, yeah, I made a choice.
I didn't know exactly what went into social work.
I didn't go to college to study social work.
Well, you can leave now.
Huh?
You can leave if you want to, right?
It's a choice.
I mean, yeah, I could.
So I want to look into other jobs for that.
Okay, you're missing the biggest point here.
Okay.
Women aren't lining up to do hard jobs.
Period.
That's a fact.
Not a lot of women, you mean, right?
Not a lot of women.
Not no women.
Because my friend is a plumber.
She got her own team and she running it.
She puts together new modern day age.
Fantastic.
But she is an exception to the rule.
Yeah, but let's not exclude her.
So that's one woman that you know.
But that's not exclude.
No, no, no.
But look at all your friends that are women.
That's only one.
And it's statistically insignificant.
I have a woman.
My family are police officers.
And don't even talk trash on those cameras because we're a wreck.
But bottom line, my family police officers.
I got a female cousin.
She's a police officer in New York.
I got two family members that have been in the Philadelphia police district over 20 plus years.
That's fantastic.
You know what I'm saying?
And they doing heavy duty shit.
That's great.
But once again, we make an objective statement.
And what do you do?
Attribute it right back to yourself.
I know this.
I know that.
That's cool, but the majority are still overwhelmingly men.
Once again, take yourself out of it.
Okay, generally speaking, what's happening in the world.
So anyway, you were saying?
Can I ask a question?
At this point, we derailed so much, I don't even know what I was saying.
What was I responding to exactly?
See, that proves my point that you're arguing to argue.
I did that as a test.
I'm not arguing to argue.
Yeah, you are.
Because you just don't want to be wrong.
The wage gap is a myth.
The wage gap is a myth.
It does not exist.
Women get paid less because of their choices, not because they're inherently women.
Just hold it up.
I'll give it to you.
You do realize that you don't even know where your arguments stem from.
You didn't even know that that study, women get 80 cents on the dollar, is from a faulty background.
You didn't even know that.
Because why would I be taught faulty information for a degree that I paid for?
Do you think they're going to teach me fake stuff like in college and that kind of stuff?
Yes.
Yes.
Listen, I have a college degree myself.
I was in a professional world.
I was a special agent before this with the government.
Okay?
I'm a college-educated guy as well.
But I'm sitting here letting you know that college did not teach me a lot of the things that I know now that made me a multimillionaire.
Everything after I left college and the workforce.
They don't teach you how to invest.
They don't teach you about how taxes really work.
They don't teach you how to save a bunch of money by buying real estate.
They don't teach you how to properly invest.
They tell you to put a bunch of money into a 401k, which doesn't pay you back, and then hope to retire on $200,000 a year.
Sorry, $200,000 forever on a fixed interest rate.
Colleges perpetually underprepare people for real life.
Facts.
Facts.
Rockefeller said it himself.
He wanted a world full of workers, not thinkers.
No, yeah.
A thousand percent.
We're being trained to be exploited.
A thousand percent.
So why would you believe college indoctrination over I'm telling you how the world really works?
See, college sets up women to feel like victims, but the reality is y'all aren't victims.
You just make poor decisions when it comes to career choice and education.
And then you get paid less, deservedly so, because you guys go into dumb career fields.
No offense, but if you look at all the majors that are useless, dominated by women.
Women's studies, psychology, unless you have a PhD, it's a useless degree.
Political science.
Useless majors.
They're not going to get you a job.
Why not accounting?
But they're not going to get you a job?
Are you serious?
With a bachelor's degree, no.
I literally have a job with two of those majors.
Okay, you got one, but do most people go ahead and get a job with those majors in their career field?
Overwhelmingly, no.
It's sad, but...
You have to get higher education a lot of times.
You want to major in psychology, you need to become a psychologist, get a PhD.
Yeah, to make more money, but it's not necessarily impossible.
You could be a clinical coordinator, you could be a case manager like me, like, you can do all that kind of stuff with just a bachelor's.
So I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that.
That's cool, but most people can't get a job with just a bachelor's.
They have to go into higher education to be able to secure a job in that career field when it comes to the social sciences.
That's true, but don't tell me that it's not, that it's useless either, is what I'm saying.
In general, it's useless.
Just because you are successful at it doesn't mean that other people are going to be successful at it.
I have a criminal justice degree.
I am happy to say it's a useless degree.
But it was a means to an end for me to get the job that I wanted.
But I can't sit here and say, well, you can't tell me it's useless because it worked for me.
That's a ridiculous and narcissistic point of view.
It works for a lot of people.
How do you know?
My coworkers all did the same thing as me.
They all studied the same thing as me.
They all make the same much as me.
Oh, so I made dumb choices?
Stand your ground, baby.
Stand your ground.
What do you mean?
You just said it, right?
You do social work.
Yes.
I think that's great.
Once again, does it pay a lot?
No.
But that was your choice, right?
But you're going to tell me that it's useless, too?
No, I'm just saying...
Y'all called it a useless job.
I'm saying...
What he's saying is it doesn't pay a lot.
Yeah, you made a choice of what I'm not feeling.
And when it comes to overall society, it's not as important.
It doesn't create infrastructure.
It's not as vital as the other professions that we discussed.
It's respectable.
I think it's a great thing you're doing, but if you're looking at money standpoint for what's vital to the society, it's okay, but it's not mandatory.
And you also got to keep in mind, there's a million sociology and psychology majors that are women that want to get into that career field.
So therefore, it lowers the cost of labor because there's more applicants in the pool versus if you want to be an engineer, you want to be a rocket scientist, whatever.
Not many people can do that or have the patience to go to school for that long.
Therefore, they're paid more.
Okay, so what feminism has done is it's cut wages because now you have double the workforce so I can pay them less.
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, do you not?
Okay, sure.
Lost souls.
Either way.
I mean, you're just wrong.
I'm sorry.
I just got to say it.
Sometimes you got to tell people they're wrong.
You're just wrong.
There is no wage gap.
It's a myth.
I just debunked it systematically.
Wrong.
You don't even know where your argument came from that it comes from all working men versus all working women was disingenuous way to look at it.
Wrong.
And women earn less because they deserve less.
Because the difference between you and me is that you came today prepared with all these facts and stuff.
I just came today, invited to a podcast.
I hardly knew what the topic was even about.
I'm just speaking about what I know, my experience, my education.
I'm not even just speaking from experience because y'all don't want to hear about experiences here.
Y'all don't want to hear about personal feelings.
I'm talking about what I've learned.
The key is to...
Here's the thing.
If you don't know about something or there's someone else that knows more than you, You're better off being quiet and learning versus trying to make an argument on a moot point that doesn't exist or is incorrect.
Why did you invite me on the podcast and give me a microphone?
I'm going to call you out because you said earlier before the show, you came prepared.
Do you not hear that on the show?
You said it yourself.
You came prepared because of your career.
I heard it earlier.
I failed terribly.
I feel like this panel would beg to differ.
Bro, I'm prepared for this.
He has a good career.
I wasn't even hyping it up that much.
I was saying that I know stuff about the subject, but I'm not saying...
Ignorance isn't an excuse.
If I decide to sell drugs and then I get caught by the police and say, yo, bro, I didn't know cocaine was illegal.
My bad.
They're going to look at me like, stupid.
And I'm going to do 20 years in jail.
Ignorance is never an excuse.
If you don't know, then just don't say anything.
It's cool.
We get it.
But to make an argument in bad faith, knowing that you're wrong, right?
And then even in the face of statistics and facts, that your own argument comes from a faulty detail.
I mean, bruh, like, it is what it is.
It's that you want me to pull out statistics that are down, like, to a T, as if, like, you want me to whip them out, you want me to pull out the authors, you want me to pull out everything.
I'm not going to do that for you, because I'm not writing a paper.
I'm in a podcast, and I'm just telling you what I know.
So you're just talking to talk, then?
You're not able to actually back up your arguments.
Did you want me to come to this show just to sit and not speak?
No, no, no, you can speak, but you've got to be able to entertain a fact when you're wrong.
And you are incorrect in this case.
I've accepted certain things that I'm like, or not necessarily wrong in, but I've agreed.
No, you're wrong.
But throughout this podcast, I've agreed with you on a lot of things.
I'm talking about this wage gap thing right now.
Because this is an argument that a lot of feminists make that is incorrect.
I guess we just have different sources.
That's just what it is.
Your sources are incorrect.
I just told you where they came from.
See, the difference is I understand your argument to a T. I know this argument because I've heard it a million times from feminists just like you, sitting in that same chair.
Oh, wage gap, 80 cents on the dollar!
I actually went and looked at it.
It comes from all working men versus all working women.
You didn't even know that, but I did.
Okay, then I'll take another look at the statistics.
No, just take that out.
What about you?
I think you're listening to him, but I don't really think you're hearing him.
And I think the moment that he used the word useless, it was just kind of like, I can just I don't want to say, yeah, but it was, like, you kind of blocked out any and everything that he was saying.
I feel like if you actively kind of, like, listen to his perspective, rather than, like, seeing it through, like, an emotional standpoint, I think, like, you would actually kind of, like, see his perspective more.
The thing is, I don't feel like I'm taking it personally.
Like, I don't feel triggered.
Like, I'm not sitting here crying.
I'm not raising my voice.
I'm not doing any of that.
Like, I'm just here, like, listening, and I'm giving my point of view.
But I'm not here telling, like, The difference between him and I, I'm not here and I'm not being like, you're wrong.
Well, this is wrong because this is not on the other.
You can have a certain set of information.
I can have a certain set of information.
Two people can run two studies that are almost identical and produce different results.
And that's where literature reviews come from and stuff like that.
You've got to compile different...
But your study's incorrect and I already proved that.
I know your study at the point.
He knows your study.
Oh my god, dude.
It was like an example study that I just remembered from years ago.
I didn't come here equipped with statistics.
Wait, pause.
Hit the live, Chris.
What?
The live chat.
Oh, actually, no.
My bad.
Sorry, go ahead.
My bad.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, go ahead, Chris.
No, but what he's saying is he knows your study and he knows it better than you because you said years ago, yeah, I knew my study.
But he said, oh yeah, I know your study because many girls came on with the same study.
So here's what you're trying to say.
Here's what I know about your study.
And I know it to a T because I've actually done research on your study.
And you're saying, oh yeah, it's been years ago.
So he's trying to help you out.
So if you don't know the study, just come back next time with your research.
See, the difference is I listen to understand.
I'm listening to you.
You're just hearing me.
Because I listen, understand, comprehend.
That's how I'm able to systematically debunk your argument.
You, on the other hand, you're just hearing me and responding because how you feel.
And I'm telling you what's real.
I don't know.
I don't feel any type of way.
I don't know what feeling you guys are picking up on.
I don't feel any type of way.
I'm just telling you what I know.
You don't feel like it's...
You feel like you're saying it's wrong?
It is wrong.
Okay, fine.
Fuck it.
It's wrong.
It is wrong.
It's not that I feel that it is wrong.
Okay, sure thing.
I'll make sure that from this point on, I will only speak on things that I know are absolutely facts and that I know the author.
Intelligent people typically don't talk on topics that they don't understand or know, or when met with someone that does actually know, try to argue with them in bad faith.
Facts.
That's why I stay quiet.
That's facts.
That's some things.
I literally wrote a book on this, so you're not going to win.
I know for a fact how the wage gap goes.
I'm not going to be able to make a book that said women deserve less and not be able to back up my stats very tightly.
So because you wrote a book you know more?
Yes, because I actually had to study it, unlike you.
Research.
And I know it's going to face a lot of scrutiny, so I had to make it in a way where it would be able to stand scrutiny.
With peer-reviewed studies, etc.
That women earn less, not because of their gender, but because of their personal choice when it comes to education, what they decide to go into in the workforce.
Just hold it up, man.
I'm trying to go home.
Somebody else was trying to say something.
No?
Okay.
I mean, I had a question.
Alright, go ahead and hit the question.
Go ahead.
It was nothing important.
I just wanted to know if, like, y'all got a snack or something in my stomach over here.
For real?
Okay, let's end the...
We're trying to end it.
You can ask questions.
Faith Mahad Farad says, Honest truth is, a woman need only to grow up to a level of physical maturity to be accepted by society as grown up.
A man, however, is ridiculed way after the checkpoint.
His growing up depends on a whole other set of things to be accepted by society.
Hmm.
That's a good point.
I'll add to that.
It was 50.
I think women don't mature until they stop getting sexual attention.
More of a controversial take.
Say that again, Brock.
I said women don't mature until they stop getting sexual attention from the opposite gender.
Why do you believe that?
Women don't mature.
I'll back up why I said that.
The reason why I said that is because When girls are getting pursued by men and getting options and guys hitting up on Instagram, dating apps, whatever, the world is their oyster.
It's awesome.
I got a bunch of guys pursuing me.
I get the privilege of being kind of in a Delusional fantasy world where I think I deserve a man that's a millionaire, six foot plus, etc.
Because I've dated a few.
Maybe I hooked up with one here.
Maybe I kissed one here.
I think I deserve this caliber of man, right?
And typically, it's not until they get older and their options dry up from the opposite gender that reality smacks them and they say, whoa, I should probably find a family now.
I should probably go ahead and find a guy.
And maybe this career thing wasn't it.
And I need to chase a family because it's going to give me the real fulfillment that I want.
That's what I've noticed.
The most mature women I've met are typically women that are kind of at the end of the road when it comes to their looks and beauty in their youth.
Yes, it does.
Well, here's the difference with men.
Men face immediate negative reinforcement for bad decisions.
I'll give you an example.
If I'm a fat loser playing video games in the basement, at some point, I'm either going to lose my girlfriend, like her ex, or no girls are going to fuck me, my friends aren't going to respect me, and society will look down upon me and let me know that I'm a Cheeto-eating fat piece of shit.
Rightfully so.
Women, however, if she's hot enough, no one will ever tell her, you're a pot-smoking loser and have nothing going on in your life, because she's hot and someone will, at some point, take care of her.
I tend to disagree.
You disagree?
Yeah.
What do you disagree with?
I disagree with the last statement that you said about women more so if they're attractive they're more so like no one's gonna come at them and tell them like the truth because the fact that they're attractive like their appearance is like out there.
Excuses them from their actions.
I feel like there are certain people out here that tends to tell women like what's going on with them.
And who's that?
I'm speaking for certain people.
I'm not speaking for everybody.
I don't know if you're speaking for everybody out here in the world, but I'm speaking for certain women, certain men out here.
Okay.
What if I told you I've spoken to almost 2,000 women from different age groups and different backgrounds on this podcast?
That's interesting.
And the amount of women that are delusional as to how the world really works and making arguments in bad faith or not understanding how things really go, etc.
is alarming.
And what I've realized is there tends to be a correlation where the more attractive a girl is, the more delusional she tends to be of how the world really works.
Because her beauty has coddled her from facing harsh realities that the world often has.
Men don't get that privilege.
Pretty privilege is real and women get to experience it.
So women aren't held accountable for their poor decisions to the same degree that men are.
So now you agree.
I agree with the pretty privilege.
But we also get tested because we pretty.
You feel what I'm saying?
They try to test that.
Are you just looks?
Nope.
Barely.
Yeah, barely.
Not barely.
Maybe in Miami.
I don't know if y'all notices.
It's just eye candy here.
You feel me?
Hold on, hold on.
This podcast is a perfect example of that.
This has been a very uncomfortable conversation.
I can see it in all of you, right?
But why is it an uncomfortable conversation?
Because you were savage.
No, because no one tells women the truth anymore.
I mean, it's not uncomfortable to me.
Oh, no, I've noticed that a lot of you guys are uncomfortable, which is cool.
I don't mind.
But the reason why...
Uncomfortable with what exactly?
Getting your views challenged, you know, a lot of moments of silence, etc.
And the reason why is because men rarely, if ever, tell women the truth.
And I'm telling y'all the truth.
And you guys don't like it.
Oh, I don't like this.
I don't agree with it.
Blah, blah, blah.
But it's the truth.
Men rarely tell women how it really is because they want to fuck them.
I agree with your point.
That's the only reason why I'm quiet.
I'm not going to go against your point if I know I don't have actual facts on it or I disagree with it.
That's the only reason why I'm being quiet.
Well, my argument in this case is that women don't mature because they don't have to, typically.
They're still going to get all the benefits regardless of how they behave if they're hot enough.
Damn.
You could be on a boat tomorrow with a celebrity.
I can't.
You can get invited to a party with some high-level guys.
I can't.
You're so right about that.
You go on OnlyFans, sell fee pictures, make $10,000 a month.
I can't.
I can't even lie.
I will bring my own personal experience.
Even my man, before I came onto the podcast, he was like, it's so crazy because You literally, somebody slid in your DMs and was like, hey, you want to be on this podcast?
And me as a man, I would have to have a million followers.
I would have to have so much clout.
I would have all X, Y, and Z to even be considered for a position in this seat.
I agree with her with that.
All I had to do was essentially just answer a DM. And here's the other thing.
I don't know if you noticed this.
I've always said a privilege is invisible to those that have it.
You didn't even notice it.
Your man had to call it out for you.
Well, no, it wasn't even that.
It just came up in conversation.
Yeah, but he acknowledged it.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
Women don't even understand the privileges they have because privilege is invisible to those that have it.
But he was able to immediately acknowledge, wow, that's a crazy opportunity.
Why?
Because men don't get...
Nearly the same amount of opportunities and privileges, which once again goes back to why the wage gap doesn't exist.
Women have more opportunities now because they're able to benefit from the equality, right, while simultaneously being treated like a lady, right, which is a benefit that only women get.
So y'all can eat at both ends of the spectrum.
Yeah, for a woman, opportunity has no face, but it doesn't have a dick.
Okay, moving on.
Let me ask you a question.
So, considering your mindset, right?
I am hungry.
I am really hungry.
So, considering your mindset and everything, right?
Do you genuinely believe that you'll be able to go out there and find you a wife that perfectly fits for you?
Wow, that was deep.
Don't answer that logistically.
Can you do that with it?
Like, feeling?
Like, for real?
What are we trying to ask?
I'm just asking him a question.
Considering his mindset, we all know his mindset.
What is my mindset?
Don't let him throw you off.
No, no, no.
What is my mindset?
No, no, no.
What is my mindset?
Don't forget the questions.
Do you genuinely believe that you can find you a girl that best fits you?
Well, here's the thing.
As a wife.
Yeah, as a wife.
Here's the thing, ladies.
You married?
I don't need to find her because I found myself.
And since I found myself, my leadership will dictate how she's going to behave because I'm going to train her to be the best girlfriend she can be.
Train?
Listen, that's what I do.
You see yourself getting married?
You see yourself getting married?
He said he needs to train.
Hold on, hold on.
Stop the show.
Cut it out.
Wait, wait.
Come on, come on, come on.
If you take a professional athlete, what are they doing in the off-season?
Training.
Okay.
When you go to the gym, what are you doing?
Work it out.
Okay.
Training.
Yeah.
Okay.
If you want to be the best at something, what do you have to do?
You condition yourself.
Ah.
So, wouldn't it be fair to say that if I want my girlfriend to be the best girlfriend that she can be, I have to train her?
Okay, but...
Answer the question.
Wait, wait.
Wouldn't it be fair to say...
You asked me, didn't you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so wouldn't it be fair to say that if I want her to be the girlfriend slash wife I want her to be, I have to train her...
Is she a dog?
Please answer the question, yes or no.
Wait, wait.
Instead of saying train her, can you use a different logic?
Instead of saying train?
Because that's showing why that book...
Because you can teach.
You can teach her.
Yeah.
But why are you training her?
She's not a dog.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That's what I'm trying to say.
You can teach her.
The difference between what he just said, like all those examples versus training a girl is that an athlete, conditioning at the gym, whatever, those are all personal choices.
We train because we want to.
You're talking about training somebody else.
Who's already conditioned to their own ways.
Yeah.
Why are you training somebody else?
Because, hold on.
Let me ask you a question.
If you want to work, let me ask you since you want to ask this.
Let's say you want to work at a prestigious job.
Let's say a prestigious law firm.
Wouldn't it be fair to say that you have to...
I have to learn.
You have to learn.
And don't you have to come to the job, dress a certain way with a resume and a certain type of experience?
Yeah.
Okay.
And wouldn't it be fair to say that this prestigious law firm also has a lot of applicants?
Oh, you're shivering.
Okay.
Yeah, she's cold.
Can we give her the blanket real quick?
Yeah, she's shivering.
Yeah, so anyway.
All right.
It's really cold in here, guys.
We keep it cold.
So wouldn't it be fair to say that if you want to work at this prestigious law firm, there's a lot of other applicants.
So you have to prepare yourself and train for the position?
Yes.
Okay, so what's the difference between a girlfriend and a prestigious law firm?
I never said it was a...
I'm just saying, like, your choice of words.
I don't care what you think about the words.
You must train the girl to be the best girlfriend for it.
You guys don't like the words, but the reality is I'm training her.
I'm teaching her, hey, this is what's acceptable.
This is what's not acceptable.
And if you want to be with me, this is what it is.
The problem is this.
Stop, stop, stop.
And that's one of them.
Which is why you deal with more impressionable younger women.
Thank you for making that argument for me.
Wait, what she said?
You can't teach your old dog new tricks.
Which is why you deal with younger women because they're more impressionable and more open to the coaching and the training.
You can't tell him to change his words if that's who he is.
Listen, ladies.
Men are leaders.
Women are followers.
That's the way the world has always worked.
All of you guys said earlier, not all, but most of you, or most women in general, want a guy that's taller, stronger, more dominant, more confident, more ambitious, etc.
So you guys want a leader, but you don't want him to lead you?
Tell me how that makes sense.
You want to be with a guy that's successful, that has his shit together, but you don't want to comply with the regulations and standards?
You want to become vice president of this company?
You want to be vice president of this company?
But you don't want to go ahead and do the work to move up the ranks?
Bars.
See, here's the thing.
No, no, no, no, no.
Real talk.
Because this is the cold hard truth about modern day women.
Y'all will dress up in a suit, bring a resume, go to school for six to eight years to pursue a career that doesn't give a fuck about you, jump through hoops and hurdles to get this job, okay?
Behave, go through training, become the best woman you can for this job, but then your man comes in and says, yo, I need you to do this, I need you to do that.
Fuck you, nigga, I'm showing an independent.
I'm finishing my point.
What I'm trying to say is that women will gladly submit to their boss and their job, but they will not submit to their man.
And that is why so many modern day women can't keep a man.
That's the reality.
I'm telling you guys how successful men think.
I'm a multi-millionaire.
I'm not tolerating no bullshit from a woman.
Period.
I busted my ass to get to this point.
This is how it is.
And all guys that are successful think this way.
Whether they make $100,000, $200,000, a million dollars a year.
We all think this way.
It's my way or the highway because that same mindset that made me become successful is the same mindset I'm going to take into the relationship.
It's my way or the highway because there's other girls that want to work at this corporation, this law firm, whatever it is, because this is a prestigious business.
And you need to be willing to train and go through the trials and tribulations to become the vice president, a.k.a.
my girl.
That's how it goes.
You don't just get a handout here.
So women will go ahead.
It's incredible to me how modern day women will sacrifice their years of their life, their prime years, for a job that doesn't give a shit about them, but they won't submit to a man.
Facts.
And you want a family?
You want a family?
What a joke.
Crazy.
You're looking at me like I'm crazy.
You disagree with something?
It was just the word training.
Like you right, but like it was just that dominancy of not really having true respect for women.
And what we have to bring to the table is like train like we ain't nothing.
Like we only there at y'all feet for when y'all call.
And that's what I said earlier.
Like we more than just that.
And if I get into a relationship with that word training, I want to really I want to touch base on that word training.
If I get in a relationship and I connect with somebody, we connecting off of who we are.
If I don't fuck with you, I'm not going to try to train you into being something you're not.
It's like you can't teach old dogs new tricks.
Which is why you get younger women.
But then you still lost because you're still going to end up chasing younger women.
You're going to keep the same route.
You ain't really happy, so keep it up.
We don't chase young girls, man.
That's what they all say, but I know the truth.
You're not a man, so I don't know where you're coming from.
Do you think if he used a different word besides train that this conversation just would have gone a completely different direction?
Ultimately, he was really just trying to say that...
Yo, see, here's the difference between men and women.
You guys are more concerned with a word and how it's delivered versus the message that was delivered.
It's almost like you have to read between the lines of what you were trying to say.
It's not what you say, it's how you say it.
And that's exactly what happened to me earlier, y'all.
No, you're just disruptive and constantly interrupt.
That's why you were being rude.
Okay, and then saying brother and all these other condescending terms.
There's a difference.
When y'all mention it, when y'all showing that a woman's worth is nothing but at your feet and bedside.
You came to that conclusion.
That's what you were saying though, basically.
Did I say any of those words you just mentioned?
At your feet, begging at your side.
None of that.
It's like you don't even really care for females for real.
It's more so like you just like nosh and lie.
What led you to say that specifically?
Because you don't give us the debit.
Fuck credit.
You don't give us the debit we deserve.
Like it's just all females don't deserve this.
Females not this.
Females this that.
Females that.
Damn.
What specifically made you come to that conclusion?
I'm going to just shut up.
I'm sorry.
I think I'm about to get kicked off and y'all are scared of me.
I can't even say what I want.
Here's the thing.
I'm saying, if you're going to make an argument and say that, oh, y'all saying this and that, blah, blah, blah.
What's wrong with the term training?
Go ahead.
Tell me.
I said it earlier already.
What was wrong with the word?
You said that we're saying that women need to be on their feet, whatever.
Not one of those words were used.
I can't re-explain because then it's re-contradicted and I'm not about to do that.
What is re-contradicted?
What?
I meant you're going to try to contradict what I'm saying and I'm not about to just look at it.
You make the words on a fly.
Yeah, because you alligator.
The difference is this.
You're extrapolating something from what I said that doesn't exist.
I simply said that men need to train women.
But when I gave you guys the example of going to the gym to train, when I talked about training for a job, when I talked about training for being an athlete, none of y'all had anything negative to say about that.
But when I say, I need to train my girl, y'all are like, whoa, that's not cool!
Growth.
Unity.
What is an independent decision?
You make a decision to be an athlete.
You make a decision to go to the gym and you do that for yourself.
Somebody training someone else?
You have a coach.
You don't do that by yourself.
Wait, hold on.
Let me ask you this.
Who controls who gets relationships?
Excuse me?
Who controls who gets relationships?
So like who secured a bag?
No.
Who...
Who gets relationships?
Who controls who gets relationships?
Both parties.
Really?
Are you getting down on any of proposing to a man?
No.
Okay, so who does that?
The man, but I can very well say no.
Oh, hold on, stop, stop.
So, by default, men controls who gets relationships, correct?
No, because at the end of the day, his word isn't end-all be-all.
He might want to.
He might make that decision to propose, absolutely.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to say yes.
Just because he wants to.
Listen, if you're with a man that you love and admire and respect, and he gets down on one knee, he's choosing you and you're going to say yes, hence you're in a relationship with him in the first place.
Because I'm also actively choosing him every day.
Okay.
But he's the one that gives you the title of wife, right?
The answer is yes.
He's the one that is getting down on the knee and proposing to you, making you his wife.
So wouldn't it be fair to say that if you want to be a wife, you have to do wife duties for the job?
You might have to do wife duties, but what I'm not understanding is why you have to train someone.
Why can't you just meet someone where they're at, if that makes sense?
Hear me out.
Meet them where they're at in the sense of if they meet your expectations, you won't have to train them, and you can just hop on board.
Why do you have to train somebody?
Why don't you just drop them?
When you meet somebody for the first time, do you know everything about them?
No, you learn about them.
Exactly.
So how do you learn from that person?
Experience, right?
Getting to know them better.
Going through tribulations.
And what?
Training yourself to learn who they really are.
Same thing with him.
He's just training you to understand.
And if I'm going to keep it a thousand, modern day women have a bunch of bad habits that need to be trained out of them.
Wanting to go to the club, wanting to shake their ass, wanting to have guy friends, wanting to do a bunch of ho shit.
Like, you got to train a lot of bad habits out of chicks to make them the best girlfriend they can be.
So you don't agree with a girl having guy friends in a relationship?
Absolutely not.
It's unacceptable.
I agree, too.
That sucks for you, then.
I agree with that, too.
Like I said, those guys want to have sex with you.
I'm not dumb.
I understand how men think.
So, again, the thing is, you guys want a winner, but you guys are not prepared to do the work to get a winner.
Which is fine.
Y'all don't want to get trained.
Get a regular guy.
5'8", 36K to 50K per year.
But y'all all want...
What?
Nothing.
I was singing a song.
Go ahead.
Why are you still here, man?
Just go, man.
I'm listening to what he's saying.
Yeah, but you're rude, thinking of a song, you're hungry.
I'm not singing in a mic, though.
How is that being rude if I'm listening to what he's saying, but I'm just moving?
It makes you just look weird.
That's what it is.
If you watch the show back, you're going to look at yourself and be like, what the fuck?
It just makes you look weird.
She was looking in the camera.
Does her looking weird affect you in any kind of way?
As a woman?
I mean, this is going to make her look foolish and immature.
Did I bother you when I did that?
Okay, then let her do that and that's the image that she wants to present?
Alright, but are you training her how to be now?
I told her she was a pain in the ass.
I told her she was a pain in the ass.
I'm not denying it.
I'm not denying it.
And that's a whole lot of words just to say that you don't get played.
Look, I've seen Instagram.
I'm sure you get played every fucking day.
Three times a day, all right?
I'm surprised.
Shut up with a blazer.
Fuck that shit, man.
Fuck that shit, man.
You guys have an issue with the term train.
That's fine.
You guys will go ahead and work a career and get trained for them, but you won't get trained by your man, which is why so many girls stay single.
That's true forever.
You're not going to have a winner and not go through the trials and tribulations of training.
That's just how it goes.
He's going to train you to be a better girlfriend, and if you don't want to submit to that, cool.
Stay single.
So his ability, right?
To have the way he wants her to accommodate with him, right?
Yes.
Okay.
Every man is different and has different needs and requirements.
He's got to train his girl to be the best girl.
But that's the thing.
Why do you have to train them?
Why can't you just find someone that's already like that?
And why go through all that work yourself?
Why train somebody?
Okay.
You want to know why?
Because most women don't have fathers nowadays that are supposed to train them these things from the beginning.
Oh, so you're her father.
No, what I'm saying is that we live in a fatherless society where women, a lot of the times, don't have a natural respect for masculinity, or they might have not had a father figure, a strong brother, strong uncle, whatever.
And most women in general don't respect most men.
That's how it is.
So, a lot of times, you gotta train bad habits out of girls because it used to be, in the olden days, you got a girl, she came from a strong family, she understood what it was to be a woman, right?
She had a strong father, she had a mom, she came from a strong family, she understood what being a feminine woman was, and you can marry her.
But nowadays, a lot of girls are not marital material.
So you say it determines if that shorty have a dad in her life?
No, I'm just saying it's an element.
Element, yeah.
Okay.
You're training to be his wife.
Because typically, if you come from a good family with a strong father, he will instill certain values in you that will make you a good wife.
So then you wouldn't have to train her then.
Well, it's not the system.
It's poor decisions from the daddies.
I just feel like we keep fixating on this word training, training, training.
Who's referring back to training?
When are we going to ask some questions?
I've got to ask some questions.
Our past few minutes have just been fixating on this word and this idea of a man training a woman when essentially we as women train our men to pretty much acclimate to us.
You said it earlier.
I would expect my man to check up on me every three hours.
That is you training him to conform to your certain standards and your standards of life, your standards of a relationship.
So when he says...
I'm training my woman to, you know, abide by these standards that I have for her.
You have the you have.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You have the conscious decision whether or not whether you want to conform to those certain standards or like she said, leave and go find another man.
If you don't fit in with the standards that he's trying to hold you to, then cool.
Go find another man and you can go find another woman.
Right.
Like if I'm not good enough for you and it's not even about like not even being good enough or anything like that for each other.
If you're not even happy with who I am as a person and that doesn't make you happy, I don't know.
I just don't.
Some women want a real dominant man.
See, we're talking about dominancy here and submission.
He wants a lady to submit to him basically all the fucking way.
It seems that he wants a woman to submit to him, to be loyal to him.
I don't think necessarily be a robot, but to at least consider his feelings and consider his boundaries and his standards that he has for you as his woman.
That's respectful.
I agree with that.
Thank you.
Okay, we got some more chats here.
Did you get offended?
We got...
No, this is one already, Chris.
So Tisc917 says, my simple question, not hypothetically, ladies, which girl on the panel do you want as a daughter-in-law?
Which girl do you not want?
Second runner-up to spice it up.
Okay, so if you had to put someone on the panel to be a daughter-in-law, who would it be?
Who would it not be?
My valentine with my daughter-in-law.
Who would not be?
Based off of what you know now.
What I know now?
Who would not be?
I mean...
I feel like I'm discriminating.
Fuck.
I guess you're not hungry.
Aw, damn.
Um...
Amber Rose, I guess.
Amber Rose.
That's fine.
It's nothing personal, girl.
If I could choose, I would pick all y'all as my daughter-in-laws, but...
No, you're good.
Yeah, girl.
Okay.
What about you?
Wait, why would she not be the daughter-in-law?
She's being too honest, huh?
I don't know.
I'm just picking.
I mean, can you explain why?
I don't have a reason why.
Well, was it something I said?
No, there's nothing you said or anything.
Well, we need you to pick somebody and be able to give us an actual reason why.
Well, y'all didn't say that.
Y'all just said it.
Well, yes.
I mean, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but on this podcast, we typically ask you to explain your reasoning for why you say things.
Okay.
Fuck.
Well, if I had...
Okay, well, let me redo it then.
Motherfucker.
I would pick her to be my daughter-in-law because she's more logical.
And who would you not pick and why?
I don't know.
Um...
Oh, you know who it is.
You just don't want to say it.
Who I think it is.
I don't know.
Since you know.
You tell us.
You tell me.
You know.
It's your answer.
Yeah.
But you know.
No, honestly, we're not taking it personal, right?
Like, pick.
No, seriously.
Yeah, pick.
Just say it.
Yeah, pick.
Yeah.
Okay, so you would be the daughter-in-law.
Oh, I'm the daughter-in-law now.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because he said I have to have a reason.
Okay.
So you're logical.
Okay.
Who would be?
I guess you.
Why?
I don't have anything bad to say, but I'm gonna come up with something.
I guess because you always have a comeback.
Okay, I hear you.
I'm not denying it.
Technically, you do always have a comeback.
I'm owning it.
Do you think argumentative women are attractive to men?
No.
Not really, no.
It depends on the man.
Yeah, some men like fire.
You feel me?
Some men do like that.
Come here, girl.
Who you talking to?
What percentage of men do you think actually like argumentative women in a long-term relationship?
In a long-term relationship?
10%.
10%.
So wouldn't it be fair to say that's a minority?
I guess, yeah.
Okay.
So.
But most don't.
Yeah, we don't.
No.
It's only some men that really like that.
A minority.
Yeah, a minority.
Alright.
Who's up next?
Alright.
Who would be your stepdaughter and why?
And who would not be on why?
My daughter-in-law?
If I was to choose two, I would say her and her.
Because they have their own...
Who would be the daughter-in-law and who would not be?
Yeah, so both of them and who not...
I ain't really hear you say a lot, so I'll say it.
That's fine.
So the girl that said less is...
Okay, alright, interesting.
What about you?
Who would be your daughter-in-law and who would not be?
And why?
Honestly, I would say you would probably be my daughter-in-law.
I feel like you really kind of just sit back and I think you take into account sometimes it's better to be seen than heard and you actively kind of listen to everything.
Alright, and then who not and why?
For not...
Keep it a hundred.
It's okay, you can say me.
I think it's me.
No, honestly, I wouldn't say you.
If I'm being kind of honest, I would kind of say you.
I feel like...
She on your ass.
Well, no, I wouldn't say that.
I just feel that you were leading a lot with your emotions, and I didn't really feel like you were actually kind of taking into consideration.
Who was leading with their emotions?
See, you all cut off just now.
No, no, I'm asking a question.
Like, when did I respond with my emotions besides the fact that I was in an abusive relationship?
I just feel like if you would have let me finish.
I'm sorry.
I'm just curious.
What the fuck, Chris?
I felt like you were listening to the conversation, but you weren't really hearing what was said.
No, she was hearing.
She wasn't listening.
Yeah.
You were listening to what was being said, but you weren't really hearing what was being said, shall I say.
I understand you though.
Yeah, I did understand where you were coming from.
I just felt like you didn't really kind of take in the entirety of the question.
I think a lot of times you were referring back to your own personal experience when in reality we were kind of like trying to I don't think that's a reflection of you or anything like that.
Are you referring to when we were talking about how women can be so manly towards men?
No, I think it was just in most of the topics.
Training, for example.
You were more fixated on the word training versus the overall message that a man has got to make his girl into the best girl she can be.
Okay.
Is that an example of her being emotional, I guess?
I think I will say in your delivery, I don't necessarily think that I disagree with a lot of things that you say, but your delivery sometimes is just, I think sometimes it comes off as like really passive aggressive or even just like, just not very nice.
Now, that doesn't mean that it's wrong, but I don't know.
Let me ask you a question.
If I say one plus one is two or one plus one is fucking two, does it change the fact that it's two?
No, but I think...
Okay, then.
Exactly.
That's it.
Facts are facts, not feelings.
I feel like I'm not cutting you off, and I'm not, you know, being disrespectful to you, so I just, I don't know.
I just, I felt like that respect should have been reiterated to me and some of the other girls here, but, I mean, this is your show, so have at it.
Yeah, I mean, it's facts over feelings over here, and I was very explicit about that in the beginning.
But you can still be considerate.
Considerate of what?
Your feelings?
No, you can still be considerate of what you say and how you say it sometimes.
I think there are better ways to say it.
Nope.
Why was that necessary?
I was trying to be...
Because I said at the beginning, fuck your feelings.
This is a Facts Over Feelings podcast.
The difference between how men communicate versus how women communicate is men communicate overtly.
We say what it is and it is what it is.
Women, however...
Even just now, asking you how to describe, why would you not want to have her be your daughter-in-law?
You guys are dancing around it, saying it nice and sugarcoating it, etc.
Even when we asked you about your guy, right?
How you friendzoned him at first or whatever, and you didn't want to admit that you kind of wanted to live your life for a little bit and then get with him.
Women just dress up things, and a lot of the times the message gets lost in you guys trying to be too polite.
We're speaking very direct, very honestly, and concisely.
Okay.
And women don't do well with that type of communication.
I mean, if you guys don't believe me, we can watch back the show.
Y'all did not respond very favorably to concise, direct points.
I mean, like she said, I barely responded half of the time.
I barely responded either.
Like, I made a few key points.
Well, it's not key points to y'all, but to me it is.
Yeah, no, to you.
Overall, they weren't key points, to be honest.
They were emotionally sound arguments based on your personal experience.
That's fine.
That's fine.
But objectively speaking...
I'm next.
I'm waiting.
Oh, are you waiting this time?
Oh, bro.
I'm in.
Fresh.
No, no.
That was Chris.
Yeah.
Alright, y'all.
Go ahead.
So basically...
Daughter-in-law?
Not daughter-in-law.
My daughter-in-law would be jazzy.
Okay.
Because I understood with like...
I understood what you were saying, but I didn't really catch that from you.
Like being passive-progressive, right?
I don't think I was being that.
It's okay, but I seen where you did get emotional over the abusiveness with your boyfriend, and that's fine because we females, and I was analyzing everybody, so you cool with that.
So you would be my daughter-in-law.
As for not being my daughter-in-law, I don't want my man dating nobody that's going to snap on them because they ain't responding in a couple hours.
Yeah.
It would be you.
Because honestly, then that shows that you might be on some crazy shit.
Now we got to get the family on watching shit because you might pop up some shit.
Alright.
What about you?
Who would be your daughter-in-law?
Who would not be and why?
We know.
I mean, I'll admit it, but That's why you gotta train your girl.
Train the crazy out of them.
Love.
Or run.
Love works.
Real love.
Unconditional.
What's love got to do with it?
Who loves you more?
The parent that enables your bad behavior or the parent that disciplines your bad behavior?
I'm asking.
The one that enables?
So that you can be a detriment to society and go to jail?
Say that again?
I don't know.
To me, honestly, I would say the one that enables it, they tend to...
The question was, who loves you more?
The parent that enables your bad behavior or the parent that disciplines your bad behavior?
Rush.
Philly, I was...
I'm sorry.
Which parent loves you more?
The parent that enables your bad behavior or the parent that disciplines your bad behavior?
Discipline.
There you go.
Yes.
That's why you gotta train the crazy outro girl.
If you can't, just run.
Sometimes you gotta walk away from them because sometimes you can't help everybody.
Or you walk away from them.
That helps too.
They sit alone.
Oh my god, what the fuck?
They gonna learn something.
The point I'm trying to make is that modern day women have a lot of bad habits that need to be deprogrammed from them.
A lot of women don't want to submit.
And if they don't want to submit, then there's no relationship.
It's probably about to leave snow anyway.
I don't know.
Two more hours.
Alright, go ahead.
You said daughter-in-law?
Yeah.
You said daughter-in-law?
I would say her because of that, like, she...
I would say, like, state her opinion.
Like, she just keep it real.
Do you think men like opinionated women?
Honestly, you don't.
Oh, no.
Is it true?
Have you ever heard the phrase women are to be seen and not be heard?
No.
I've heard it.
I don't agree with it.
But if you want someone like that, go find someone like that.
Have you heard the phrase, correct?
That goes for both parties.
And it's a common saying, why?
They actually have it in Spanish, too.
It's commonly said in Spanish as well.
Okay, the reason why it's a common phrase is because it's kind of how things have worked for a long time.
Opinionate women in general typically aren't the most attractive to most men.
Yeah, because they don't look like an alpha woman.
And an alpha woman is low-key the breadwinner, too.
So when you run into a breadwinner, you know it's insecurity.
I mean, trying to break it down and show off with other women the whole time, you can't appreciate what's in his face.
An inherently masculine term.
So when you say alpha, all you're basically saying is masculine woman.
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, opinion women as well.
We don't want to date men.
Okay, but an opinion, yeah.
I mean, being disagreeable is a masculine trait.
Mm-hmm.
Now, let me ask you, do you think men like masculine women?
No.
Some do.
The answer is most don't.
Well, let me ask you, would you date a guy that wore heels on Saturdays?
Maybe.
Me, personally, no.
I know a lot of people would.
Okay, so why do you expect a man to like a masculine woman if you don't like a feminine man?
What do you consider a masculine woman?
Because there's such a thing as the Kinsey scale and sexuality is fluid and there's some men that like more masculine women and there's some women that like more feminine men.
Let's say the most desirable men that are the most masculine, do you think they want masculine women?
It depends on what they like.
Do you think the most masculine men that women typically find the most attractive want masculine women in return?
No.
Typically, no.
Okay.
So, wouldn't it be fair to say that if you want to get the best guy that you can get, you're more than likely going to have to be feminine to a degree and get rid of that masculinity?
So the best guy is the most masculine guy, is what you're saying?
No, you can continue to be who you are, but you've got to deal with the consequence of being who you are.
You will probably more than likely not get an assertive, dominant, attractive male that's traditionally masculine, if you're a masculine woman.
That doesn't really matter if that's not what you like to begin with.
Some women like feminine men.
To them, a masculine man is like, okay, whatever.
You see it as the grand prize, but to them it's like nothing because they're just not into that.
That's a lie.
Women overwhelmingly prefer a more masculine, dominant man.
And if you don't believe me, what is the most popular book amongst women?
Fifty Shades of Grey.
What does that book exemplify?
A man that is attractive, tall, income, dominant, etc.
He has all the traits that women traditionally look for in men.
Now, are there some weird exceptions of women that like feminine men?
Absolutely.
There's always going to be anomalies.
But again, exceptions don't make the rule.
If I line up 100 women, they're going to want a traditionally masculine man.
95 of them.
Okay, that's fine.
But I'm just saying, you know, you're generalizing and I'm just saying, well, I have no cases otherwise.
We went over this.
The generalities is how the world works.
I'm not going to talk about that.
Yes, exactly.
But, I mean, you asked and I answered.
That's it.
You asked me why and that's it.
What I'm saying is that masculine women are not attractive just like feminine men are not.
Disagreeableness and being alpha is not attractive to a majority of men.
That's all I'm saying.
Okay, you had started saying that they're not attractive, period.
I was just saying it depends who the attraction is for.
To a majority of men, it's not attractive.
To a majority of men, alpha women, as you guys like to say, which is nothing more than a masculine woman, is not attractive.
Yeah, typically.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that, but I'm just saying the Kinsey scale exists and there's some women that like feminine men and vice versa.
That's all I was trying to say.
I wasn't trying to make up this whole thing.
Stand on what you're saying with confidence.
Bottom line.
Stand on what you're saying because they're going to eat us up regardless.
That's kind of the whole point of the show.
I mean, again, that scale only highlights a minority.
Okay.
Just because someone is a minority doesn't negate its existence.
And the minority is a lot bigger than you think.
You see it's a minority, but given how many people are actually on the planet, like 10% or whatever percent that seems negligible, yes, in comparison to the majority, absolutely.
But they make up a pretty significant population.
By default, they're insignificant because they're a minority.
That made no sense, your argument.
You're trying to be all-inclusive, which is a very noble thing, I guess, but the reality is that it's not statistically insignificant.
It's a minority.
Okay, what I'm trying to say is that 100 people out of 1,000 people is, yes, those 100 people are the minority, but when you look at it, it's still 100 people, and they can still make some sort of impact, if that makes sense.
Versus 900 people.
Yes, actually.
Still a minority.
It's just amazing to me how women will make arguments for the minority or statistically insignificant situations.
But again, masculine women aren't attractive.
It's just a fact.
Masculine women are not attractive.
It's because women are also a marginalized group and they tend to speak for most marginalized groups.
Men, straight white men, they're not the marginalized group.
Everybody else will typically speak for marginalized groups.
Because men are hierarchy-based.
Well, here's the thing.
Men are hierarchy-based and production-based.
Men typically tend to be less communitarian than women are.
That's why women overwhelmingly vote Democrat and they vote for government programs that give handouts versus men.
It's, hey, you did the best.
We're going to go off of merit versus what we feel.
Because there's never been a need for men to communicate because they've always just gotten what they wanted by force.
Wait, what?
What?
There's no need for men to communicate and have, like, these...
You're saying that, like, they don't have those, you know, communication skills that you had just mentioned.
Is that what you had just said about communication, the hierarchy?
No, what I said is that women are socially superior to men.
No, what you had just said now, that men are hierarchical and something about being communicative is not what you had just said.
No, women are more communitarian.
Communitarian.
I mean, women.
What are you saying right now?
I'm trying to make sense of what you're saying.
What I said is, because you said women care about marginalized groups.
What I'm saying is that men care about what really matters and are more merit-based, not communitarian.
Women are communitarian, which means, oh, let's help everybody out.
Men understand a lot of the times that's not a reality.
Sorry, I'm cold.
That's not, I guess, like a reality, but okay.
Like, for example, it's...
Capitalism is an inherently masculine form of government.
Yeah.
But it works.
To an extent.
It works for those who make it.
Are you not the best country in the world right now?
I wouldn't.
I'm not going to say yes and I'm not going to say no.
There's a lot of countries that are worse.
You're just being disagreeable.
You are the best country in the world.
Disagreeable.
What defines fast is fast.
We're the number one world power right now.
We're the number one world power.
So it is a fact that the United States is the number one country.
Yeah, but Russia definitely on a hit.
What?
You know, they still running shit too.
Russia?
Yes.
Over the U.S.? No, I'm saying they're all in sync.
They're all moving.
Going back to what you were saying.
You were saying something about communitarianism?
No, I misunderstood what you had said.
I heard communicative.
Communitarian.
Yeah, I misheard you.
Okay.
She's being honest.
So...
Daughter-in-law?
No daughter-in-law.
Who'd you pick?
Daughter-in-law?
Daughter-in-law.
Um...
Daughter-in-law?
I mean, she's not here right now, but one of you two.
Either of you two.
Just because you guys kind of throughout this podcast, you guys have spoken up when you feel like there's something to speak up about.
You know what I mean?
And you have your own stance, your own opinion, that sort of thing.
Neutral.
God forbid people have an opinion, or that women have an opinion.
No, you can have an opinion, it just is wrong sometimes.
You would know.
Who I wouldn't want as like a mother-in-law.
I mean, a daughter-in-law sort of thing.
I'm not gonna lie.
It might be.
Listen, listen, I fuck with you.
I fuck with you.
But either one of either one of you guys, simply because, yeah, the whole, I'm sorry, the whole texting thing after three hours, like, I'm sorry, that's a bit much for me.
You got to have a little bit of trust and a little bit of security.
For that, but it takes time to develop, you know what I mean?
So I'm not shitting on you for that, but that's just not what I would want if I had a son.
And sometimes you get a little combative.
A little bit.
I'm gonna take that one.
A little bit.
Your passion comes off as combative sometimes, and it doesn't read right.
Sometimes it's not well received.
Wait, you gonna take that from her?
Don't take that from her.
If I was you, I wouldn't take that.
I kind of was because I said I was earlier.
Why are you trying to make us fight?
Listen, sister, don't get out from her.
Don't do that.
Okay, now he's just...
You're just stirring shit up.
You just want us to fight.
You just want us to have a cat fight right here.
Bro.
You just want us to fight.
Why would you do that?
Literally, I said that in the most respectful way possible, I think.
No, but I'm not going to lie.
I know where my fashion was coming from, but see...
Seeing how you guys took it, I'm like, alright, let me reanalyze my expression.
Let me reanalyze my expression.
Because I wasn't even trying to be threatening or, you know, but that's how strong I was going for what we was talking about.
So I'm definitely going to work on it.
I mean, you're just a very masculine woman, to be honest with you.
But that's how I was raised, though.
You wouldn't date her because she's masculine?
Let me ask you a question.
Would you date a guy that wears heels?
No, I'm sorry.
Okay, so you can't expect a guy to date a girl that's masculine.
Yeah.
That was the answer to your question.
I'm not going to really...
She's not wearing a jockstrap or anything right now, so I don't know why you're talking about heels.
No, I understand what he says.
I understand what he says.
I get the point of what he's saying, but the comparisons aren't there for me.
So it's cool.
It's cool.
They fuck with the rules.
This also went over your head last time when I talked about female standards being praised versus male standards being demonized.
If a man is masculine, it is not acceptable.
But if a woman is masculine, it is acceptable.
As a matter of fact, in our society, we encourage women to be strong and independent.
And I'm telling you that these traits are not desirable and not attractive.
And I'm not even opposed to what you're saying, honestly, because I know that men do want women that's feminine.
But where I come from, I'm a survivor.
And this is who I am.
I'm a survivor.
I'm not the lover.
For nobody.
I love all y'all for who y'all are.
Feminine, masculine, whatever it is.
I respect it.
Let me ask you a question real fast.
Let's say I wanted to sit down in my basement, watch porn, smoke weed every day, not get a job.
Do I deserve a bad bitch?
No.
Honestly, no.
What if I told you guys, I deserve a bad bitch, man, and I'm not going to settle, I'm not going to change until I get that bad bitch.
You go king!
You go king!
I'm a getter!
I'm a getter?
Yeah, fuck yeah, Chris, do I deserve one?
Chris?
No?
I deserve one?
Yeah, king!
Alright, cool.
I deserve a bad bitch.
I'm not changing.
I'm not changing.
Hold on, hold on, stop the show.
Yo, yo, how stupid did I sound just now?
You sound obnoxious.
Real bad.
Like, you needed a dip.
Cool.
So, let me ask you a question.
Why do you think it's acceptable for you to continue behaving the way that you're behaving to get a high-status guy, but me being a loser and saying I deserve a bad bitch is ridiculous?
I'm sorry.
Like, I'm the way I am like this, but, like, it's like I do...
It's like once a man sees, like, yo, she go everything on her own.
She her own soldier type shit.
Like, I'm not like this with the dude I like.
Like, you see how I'm like this with my nigga?
I be like, hey, hey.
Like, I really...
It's like he pulled that out of me, but everybody else see the...
Yeah, so you're conditionally feminine.
But with my dude, I'm very...
I'm very submissive.
Like, I'm very...
Well, you know what?
Let's use that logic.
You know what?
You know what?
I'm conditionally masculine.
I protect you some of the time.
What?
I'm not letting it fly over my head.
What?
You said, basically by your own, what you just said, you're conditionally submissive for the guy, right?
No, that's what happens to me.
When I fall in love with somebody, I just turn...
Please pay attention.
You said, by what you just said, that you're conditionally feminine.
For the right guy.
You're feminine for the right guy.
Not on purpose.
He unlocks...
No, no, no.
What he's trying to say is you'll be feminine for the right guy.
Yes.
By default means you're conditionally feminine.
Because it's under the condition you meet the guy.
Yeah, but I'm...
Okay, so with that said, I'm saying I'm going to be conditionally masculine.
I'm going to protect you some at a time.
How does that sound?
But I got to be masculine to protect myself.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're missing the point.
I sound ridiculous by saying that.
And I'm saying, it's just as ludicrous as a woman saying, I'm conditionally feminine.
Just like I said before, I deserve a bad bitch and I'm not changing.
That's ridiculous, like you saying, you are not going to change and there's a guy out there for you.
No.
People are not going to accept you the way you come.
You must change if you want the best that you can get.
That's how the world works.
You have to work for it and not think people are going to accept you the way you come.
But with feminine and masculinity, not like being positive and being negative, like who the person is, you know what I'm saying?
What if the man of your dreams was watching right now on TV or YouTube, right?
He'd say, you know what?
Damn, she's hot, but like, bro, her attitude is different.
Like, it's too masculine for me.
You just turn them off.
But if you're feminine, the whole time I was like, damn, shorty's beautiful.
She's feminine.
You know what?
After the show, I'm going to hit her up.
You just turn them off because you're out there right now.
Honestly, and that's fine because...
It's not fine.
No, it is fine because I'm still going to be me.
All right, so you're not changing.
No, it's not that I don't want to change.
It's just that...
She's staying true to herself.
That's who I am right now.
If you want to unlock...
Listen, the way I am how I am because I'm protective.
And I'm stern.
I grew up around all my brothers and stuff.
That's what it is.
But when I meet a man that I'm in love with, I don't purposely just be like, that's just what happens.
And then he sees that side, but...
I'm out here.
I'm protecting myself at the end of the day.
So if I am a little too masculine and, you know, how I am is really what I've done.
So if that expression is expressing to you that I'm masculine, I'm a strong black woman.
Alright, well, most guys don't like strong black women.
Sorry.
And this has been proven by statistically speaking.
And that is okay.
But my thing is, like, it's amazing to me how women think, I don't have to change.
I'm going to continue to do what I've been doing and expect a different result.
That is, by definition, the definition of insanity.
Whoa, whoa.
I want to know it's men to never change.
Men never change.
Men will tell you to change 20 times.
You will change 20 times.
And even your hairstyles, and they still are fucking same.
I'm not even listening to none of that.
You better go to your homeboys and talk about that in the dark, in the closet, because y'all is talking ludicrous in R. Kelly right now.
I'm going to tell you why.
What does that have to do with what I just said?
Because you're talking ludicrous.
What did I say that was ludicrous in particular?
I just explained it.
What did I say?
I just said it.
Everything.
What did I say that was ludicrous?
What you said was...
As women, we act this way and don't expect a change, but we expect more from men.
Basically what you just said.
But normally y'all don't change.
And she just said, men would tell you to change 20 times and all this other stuff, and you could change your hairstyle and men are still the same.
Change your ways, your hairstyles.
That's basically what she said.
You change exactly what they're saying and somehow you still end up, you still gotta change.
You guys are wrong.
Check.
And the reason why you guys are wrong is because men, by default, have to change.
They have to go to the gym.
They have to get a job.
They have to climb up the social ranks.
Men have to self-improve to get women.
Women, however, think, I'm going to behave however I want, act however I want, and still get a guy.
This is scary, man.
Who said that?
Look, she's not even listening.
Who's acting like that?
I don't know a single woman that acts like that.
Like, this is your topic.
I'm literally repeating what you said, and you're not even paying attention.
I'm sorry, I grabbed it.
It was something that wasn't even supposed to be talked about right now.
It was just a quick...
You brought it up.
Y'all talked about my masculinity and I said what I said.
Hence...
Because y'all brought up me trying not to change from being masculine.
Like, I'm not purposely like, yo, bro.
If that's who I am and you don't respect it, oh, well.
What do you mean you're not purposely saying, yo, bro?
I mean...
Like, she's not trying to act muscular.
She's just naturally...
And you're saying, like, I won't change.
It's like...
Is she not in control of what she says and how she behaves?
Is she not a sentient human being?
No, no, no.
What she's saying is she's not purposely doing it.
She's not trying to do it just to really be like that.
Like, yeah, I'm masculine.
Don't fuck with me.
That's just how she is.
That's what she's trying to say.
But it's still a purposeful choice.
But that went into the conversation of changing for your man.
Like a man don't want no masculine woman.
Would you change and all that stuff?
And I'm saying how I am right now.
Any nigga I ever fucked with.
Respect my sturdiness, but he also only see, he only see, but real rep, he only see my soft side.
Right.
Even my closest girlfriends be like, yo, like, when I'm not in a relationship, they be like, I want to see how you really act with a dude you like, because the dude you meet just out in the street, you brothering them up and all this other stuff.
And then one day she's seen and she was just like, damn.
It's just how it is.
The point I'm trying to make is that It's interesting that you don't feel like you have the need to change to attract the man that you want, but men actively almost always have to change and adapt who they are to become the most attractive man to women.
And what I'm saying is that if there is a man that rises to that level that has a bunch of attractive girls that want him, why would he pick you when he can go get another girl that's less masculine?
I'm not even looking at looks because it's what I feel on the inside.
There's a lot of people who's based off looks like, oh my gosh, she looks better than me.
I'm a woman of soul.
You're missing the whole point.
This has nothing to do with you.
There is competition.
Not in my world.
We're all here to compete.
Sorry.
I'm in my own lane.
Like, for real, I want everybody to win.
This is what I mean when I say women get the privilege of being delusional.
With all due respect, what you said is not true.
We are all here to compete for a mate.
We all are, whether you want to accept it or not.
We're all here to procreate and mate, and by default, to mate, you must compete with other women for the best men.
If anything, women compete at the highest level because you guys are all chasing a small percentage of men.
So whether you want to acknowledge that you're competing or not, you are.
I see what you're saying.
Like, you be hooked up.
Okay.
Just like, bro, could you imagine if men walked around saying, like, auto-compete, there's no competition, all this other stuff, and, like, actually, like, thought that way?
It's like, no.
Men compete all day.
Men have to become the best version of themselves to get girls.
But women don't think they have to be the best version of themselves to get a man.
Because y'all forget that real true love exists.
For who?
Let me finish.
Both, please.
Girls, sorry, Myron.
We have four hours.
Four hours?
We've been in four hours.
The girls are tired.
We literally have to push through this.
Is it 2.30 in the morning?
I'm sorry, yes.
Time flies when you're being triggered.
Shout out to the Henny.
Shout out to Fresh and Fit Podcast.
Love you, FNF. Please tell my boy, Monty, to stop paying for expensive dinners for these girls who don't give any attention and only want his Monty.
He's being a...
I need to be told live.
Love y'all.
Time to get my book, Why Women Deserve Less.
I talk about why simping in 2023 is absolutely unacceptable.
And I go into detail, guys, with the sex industry...
Um, you know, all this shit where girls are basically monetizing your lust for them, uh, against you.
Uh, HK goes, oh, I didn't know you started getting men on the show.
Short hair guy.
Okay.
Um, why women deserve less by my own gains.
Number one, bestseller in feminist theory.
Number two in feminist criticism, 11 in spiritual self-help and bestsellers rank 31 on Amazon.
Oh shit.
Okay.
We're already up.
All right.
Uh, for the girls getting no gift.
Don't worry.
I'll give you some, uh, I'll give you some poppy chow.
On top of that, I'll rip up the fallopian tubes of the girl two down from iron and shoelaces it because she's hideous.
Goddamn, nigga!
Wait, two...
You must come from a broken home.
We sending bad energy away and we sending energy for you to fall down the steps.
I'll kick the sports.
On behalf of all the Asian community, we kindly decline the girl and the red association with us and kindly pass her on to the Russians.
Wait, wait, wait.
Go back.
I didn't see that.
I was talking shit.
What happened?
On behalf of all Asian community, I'm Blasian.
I'm Black and Asian, first of all.
So throw respect on my name, Morfa.
I throw you in the dirt.
Well, that's what he was saying.
I'm not gonna lie.
You're more a nigga than Asian, bro.
My mother's black.
A black queen.
Rashida.
Play with it.
You're more a nigga than Asian, nigga.
It don't matter, nigga.
Yo, chill, bro.
What is wrong with you?
We're not your homeboys.
Stop talking to us like that.
It don't matter.
It does matter.
I'm gonna respond, bro.
Okay, but you talking to him now?
I was talking to that.
What is you talking about?
You were responding to Fresh.
I'm talking my shit because they talking shit.
Like, what are you talking about?
Bro, let me make this very clear.
I'm not one of your boyfriends or some dude that's gonna...
They talking shit and I can't...
It's fun and you just made it for real.
No, because you've been doing this for the better part of the show, just being extremely...
I'mma keep it real.
They was talking shit.
I can't talk my shit back, so that's it.
You can, but...
I was just saying I'm gonna throw you in the dirt.
You were responding to him when you said that other stuff.
Do you even know what you're saying right now?
Bro, I know exactly what I'm saying.
What'd you say?
What I'm saying right now.
Very clearly.
It ain't nothing slurred coming out of my mouth.
I don't think you know what's going on.
We go finish reading the theme or what?
Yeah.
That's what I'm talking about.
Shit, are you good?
I've seen something that was amusing to me.
Alright.
I'm talking about the comments that was up there.
Yeah, it's like if I can't talk my shit back, bro.
Alright.
You were talking to me before.
It's fine, but listen.
Why are you standing up?
Because I'm about to walk.
I'm walking off.
Alright, walk off then.
Walk off.
Please walk off.
You're fine.
Just walk off.
Incredible.
Just please get your stuff.
You can put your shoes on outside.
You can put your shoes on outside so we can get the show going so we don't want to delay this even more.
I love you, Valentine.
You will be missed.
Alright, just speed it up, guys, so we can get back.
I have a serious question.
Do you have snacks?
I'm genuinely hungry.
Bro, do we look like a homeless shelter or something?
I'm just asking for it.
So you're just going to have guests for like four or five hours and like not...
You're free to leave at any time you want.
It was just a question.
No, for real.
That's just hospitality.
Like...
If y'all can offer us drinks, you can offer a bag of chips.
What's your sign?
I'm so sorry.
What's your sign?
If y'all are hungry and you guys want to leave, you guys are more than welcome to go.
I'm curious.
What's your sign?
But this isn't like some charity organization.
No, I understand, but...
You should've ate before you came.
I did.
I was here for four hours.
You offered us drinks.
So, obviously, we're obviously going to get hungry.
Okay, well, I mean, we're wrapping up, but your friend decided to cause a spectacle for no reason.
Your Valentine.
Well, is she okay?
Incredible.
Yo, guys, just, like, get her out so we can get this thing going.
Like, she's over here just being annoying.
Oh, no, I'm not going to do no weird shit.
Like, the way I took it was, like, why don't you invite me?
Alright, yo.
Can you just please take your shoes and go outside and put them on so we can get this thing going?
You need to chill out.
You need to chill out.
Because you're delaying the show now.
You're delaying the show.
Oh, now you're mad for real.
You're the one getting kicked out.
Incredible.
She's really tight.
And she's still talking.
Incredible.
She ain't gonna get a reaction out of me.
She just looks foolish.
That was really Section 8 behavior right there.
Anyway, guys, book in stores.
Why Women Deserve Less.
That's so racist.
How's that racist?
Section 8 behavior?
What is that supposed to mean?
Section 8 is open to all races.
How's that racist?
No, but what do you mean by Section 8 behavior?
That was low-class, low-value behavior.
Which is typical of people of lower socioeconomic status.
You made it racist with your comment.
I absolutely didn't.
Section 8 is absolutely available to all races.
I'm aware of that.
Okay, so what made it racist?
Because you're saying rah-rah, ratchet, like, you know what I mean?
Are other races not capable of saying rah-rah and being ratchet?
Yeah, they are.
So you came to that conclusion on your own.
I didn't say anything about black people.
I have a question in regards to that.
So when you hear someone...
Listen, how you guys feel about what I said is irrelevant to what was actually said.
If you come back with it saying, that was racist.
Not really.
She's acting in a behavior, in a manner that is indicative of someone of a lower socioeconomic class.
Okay, so you're saying that I didn't think it was racist.
I'm black too.
So what is it?
I didn't think it was racist, but I don't know, but it had some sort of like, yeah, like connotation, like ratchet, like, you know what I mean?
Like rah, rah, ratchet, like all this stuff.
And then you're trying to say, like, what are you trying to say that section eight people aren't capable of having any class?
There's a lot of people in Section 8 that end up there having come from wealthy backgrounds and stuff like that.
There's all kinds of people.
Wait, what?
People that came from wealthy backgrounds and went to Section 8?
Yes, people can go bankrupt.
Where are they gonna go?
You think those people don't have the capacity to go homeless?
You're standing up for Section 8.
Congrats.
You're saving the world.
Congrats.
That makes no sense.
Oh my god, forgive me for speaking up.
I forgot y'all invite girls here to not talk.
No, no, it's not about that.
If you're gonna talk, please make sense.
You said they were rich and now they're on Section 8?
That can happen.
I'm saying that can happen.
But you're saying it's like lower middle class, lower socioeconomic class behavior.
The majority of Section 8 is not from wealth to Section 8.
No, no, no.
I know that, but I'm saying that.
I'm just saying.
It's not all dumb choices, though.
Oh, really?
Some people don't have choices.
This is where you're wrong.
We own property.
We have Section 8 tenants.
They tend to be some of the most problematic tenants.
Yeah.
Okay?
Regardless of race.
I deal with Section 8 tenants as well.
Oh, do you own property?
Good.
No, I don't own property.
Then you can stop talking because you don't understand dealing with them.
It's one thing to be a landlord over them versus working with them.
I... I see them.
I'm their case manager.
I have to work with them.
They own property.
They have to deal with shit, alright?
Listen.
And I don't.
I said that was Section 8 behavior.
Section 8 is open to all races.
You immediately attributed to it.
That was racist.
That was racist.
As in trying to say that I'm being racist towards black people.
I'm black myself.
Behavior is not indicative of a race.
It's indicative of the person.
Race is black.
She just happened to be black.
Pretty obvious.
I feel like it had to do with that.
It had to do with her behavior.
Yeah.
Ratchet behavior.
Come on, man.
You didn't have to call it Section 8 behavior, though.
I call it what I want.
He just did.
You can't call it what you want, but I'm just saying you don't...
No, he's like a huge instigator.
Are you kidding me?
But he just...
He didn't have to say that.
He could absolutely say that.
He absolutely can.
He has...
You know, he can say whatever he wants.
But...
Is it right?
No, not necessarily.
I don't think it was right to call it Section 8 behavior.
She was about to beat your ass.
Who was about to beat your ass?
No, you wanted to beat her ass.
That was ratchet, wasn't it?
Who was going to be who-ass?
Listen, bruh.
No, you were the one instigating the whole argument with her and I. Section 8 behavior is telling her, oh, you're going to take that?
You're going to take that?
That's Section 8 behavior.
So, don't start with me.
Don't start with her, folks.
If you want to start with that.
Shout the fuck with them.
Well, either way, that was Section 8 Behavior.
Spook is out.
White women deserve less, bro, because that was some ratchet-ass behavior right there, man.
Holy.
I don't care what race she is.
That was some bullshit.
Terrible.
Girl in red, just shut up.
Damn, you annoying.
Girl next to fresh, no brain cells at all.
Black girl, one from Myron.
You get a 10K with voodoo.
Girl, we gap.
You from a horror movie.
Goddamn.
You from a horror movie too, baby.
It's fine.
HK, short hair girl is the most rational.
What the fuck is wrong with the rest of the panel?
Goddamn, stupid, slow, can't think of shit, ignorant, hell nah, Big W Martin.
Alright.
It's Kupasana.
One thing I've noticed with most women is they lack humility.
One of the main character building traits in human beings.
I can tell men don't tell you the truth ever.
Y'all lacking character big time.
It happens, bro.
You get no bitches.
How does that hurt him?
He paid $10 just to say something that's so irrelevant.
You can tell by his profile picture, he don't got no shorties.
Yo, man.
Yo, tap back, bro.
Checked up on Redhead's UN stats.
She's misrepresenting the data.
UN uses the entire world for pay gap for women.
It actually shows percentage in women's favor in the US per international labor organization.
Damn.
Oh, damn.
Good for him, I guess.
Good for him, I guess.
He had to go out of his way and research it and have to make a comment about it.
It's fantastic.
Maybe you should have done that.
I mean, yeah, maybe you should have done that.
Before you say it, on live television.
I didn't even know what this podcast was.
I wasn't going to come equipped with all this stuff.
You said you kept prepared.
I'm ready for this.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
I felt ready for this.
If you go somewhere and you're unprepared, whose fault is it that you're unprepared?
My own?
So you gotta take some accountability.
No one can make you look stupid except for yourself, which you did a great job of doing today.
All right.
Who else?
This is Kim Possible being impossible.
Zero females.
Zero females ever want to work at the oil refinery I work at.
I make $150,000 per year.
Female trainees wash out at three to six months.
And 50, 60 hour work weeks never agree with them.
They prefer to work less with 34 to 40k per year jobs.
Tate Manners Master-ism.
Sending prayers to Andrew and Tristan Tate.
FreeTopG.com.
Definitely free the bros.
We're going to be in Dubai.
We're going to expose some of the lies that have been perpetrated against them, guys.
This was a great show.
You can find everyone's Instagram on Instagram.
I just want to say...
Go ahead.
All the people that's talking shit in the comments and paying all that.
Y'all doing all that and y'all following me and y'all DMing me.
Be for real.
So if y'all go talk shit, at least stand on what you say in the comments and not be in my DMs.
It's the people that are insulting you that are the ones in your DMs.
We have like 30,000 watching.
I'm looking at it.
So the people that made fun of you or someone's DMing you right now?
I just said I'm looking at it, right?
Can you name one of them?
Yeah, I got you right now.
Oh, shit.
Call him out.
One of the people that made fun of you.
And you know what?
Send me a screenshot.
I will put it on the screen.
Fuck it.
Yeah, because remember, we got like 30k watching right now.
Alright, bet.
Well, now, maybe 20-something?
Niggas commenting J the King Hard Eyes.
So, J the King, your simp.
Next.
Where is that?
She's skipping all the ones where they make fun of her.
No, I'm not.
We should do a segment where we take all the DMs.
I'm getting a lot of notifications.
It's kind of hard.
Let them out.
Alright, we'll move on.
Cool.
Alright, so guys, we got a show on Wednesday, right?
Yeah.
You don't want to get last thoughts?
Yeah.
Come on, man.
Alright, go ahead.
Give your last thoughts on the show.
Hate it, love it.
How's the show for you?
I can honestly say I was pretty chill with this podcast.
You know?
So, it was a pretty chill podcast for me, at least.
Like, y'all funny.
Besides a couple of emotional outbursts, but it's okay.
And you're cold.
Yeah, I was cold.
Yeah.
I'll come back, though, again.
Yeah.
If y'all have me.
Like, yeah.
Most likely, y'all won't.
For sure, like, you got this, like...
No, you're fine.
You're fine.
You're good, like...
We got you.
Like...
What were you, like...
It was cool, intense.
I learned a lot.
Like what?
Shout out to you for coming.
What'd you learn?
Chris wanted to know.
You sure?
You want to know?
Sure.
Go ahead.
Chris obviously wants to know.
Well, you know that everybody is entitled to their own opinion, for one.
Okay.
And two, you know, when you're in an argument, now your facts, I guess.
Facts.
Do you like syrup?
I like syrup.
That's cool.
Thank you.
What?
I do like syrup.
What was the point of that question?
Aunt Jemima.
Now fresh.
Now fresh.
No, it was a cool experience.
I appreciate it.
Definitely.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.
You have very good insight on these topics.
You didn't tell me thank you.
Thank you.
We didn't contribute much to the show, to be honest.
No, goodbye.
I'm just kidding.
Besides saying I'm hungry and making a false Valentine's...
It's cold in the years.
I mean...
No, it is cold in the years.
I heard a song and...
And like mouthing a song to yourself while we're making a point.
I don't know.
But that's fine.
I mean...
You weren't terrible.
You were okay.
I was chilling.
It's got pretty privilege.
You were okay.
What about you?
Honestly, it was a chill experience.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
You had a lot of, like, valid points, but I don't agree to everything that you said.
What you don't agree with.
Please don't.
I want to go home.
Please don't.
Please don't.
No, it's not that.
It's just that you guys are disagreeing because of how you feel versus what's real.
I mean, I wasn't really speaking on emotions.
Like, she said, I wasn't really speaking that much.
I was just saying my feedback here and there.
But I wasn't agreeing to, like, the men and women conversation.
Like, you're speaking on statistics, but you're not actually normalizing certain things that's going on right now, in my opinion.
Wait, what?
Like, I'm saying, like, certain conversations that we had on to men and women, you're statistically speaking on things that's going on in your opinion, like, every day, but you're not speaking on...
If it's statistically sound, then it's not my opinion, it's a fact.
No, but there are things that are going on outside of your fact.
Like?
Like when we were speaking how women tend to sit there and go out their way for a man, but you feel as though men more so go out their way for women more.
Did we not speak about that?
Are there more female sims or more male sims?
Oh my fucking god.
There's more female sims.
Are there more female sims or male sims?
Female.
Really?
Yes.
Is there an entire industry made up off of female sims?
Okay, let's go off your opinion then.
Is there an entire billion dollar industry made off of female sims?
No, there's not.
But there's an entire industry built off of male simps, isn't there?
There is.
Okay, so factually speaking, were there more simps, men or women?
Stick to your answer.
It's like you can't do that over here.
You can't do that.
No, you mean like speak facts and tell you when you're wrong?
I just feel like we came over here to also speak our opinion if we don't actually have the facts.
Yeah, we could learn.
But an opinion can be wrong though, correct?
Yeah, but it's our opinion.
That's how we feel.
But it's wrong.
Is this how you were born?
You do realize that an opinion can be wrong and your opinion is not valid all the time.
You're right.
But that's why we came here to voice it.
It's not about being right or wrong.
It's just how we go.
In my opinion.
Don't be saying it.
Yo, only women.
This is crazy.
Even in the face of facts, it's like, but my opinion!
Your opinion's wrong.
I gave you your leeway, though.
Leeway?
Not leeway, excuse me.
It's called facts.
Okay.
I give you your point.
I said, like, you made some valid points.
And then I asked you, what did you agree with?
Yeah.
Or disagree with?
Yeah.
And then you tried to state it now, and that was just wrong.
It wasn't wrong.
She even said that we spoke about that topic earlier.
Was she?
I'm sorry, what's your name?
Ari.
Okay, here's what you tried to say.
You tried to come up with a faulty conclusion that women pursue men more than men pursue women.
And I said that's not true.
Because there are more male simps than female simps.
A simp is someone that chases someone with unreciprocated value.
And that's what women do nowadays.
Okay, but there are more male simps.
As shown earlier with the billion-dollar industry, I quite literally just described to you.
With the definition that you just threw out, though, there's more so men out here.
The definition that you just threw out, you said- Of a simp?
Yes.
There's more so men?
Yes.
Okay.
I disagree.
You disagree.
Facts.
Is there a billion-dollar industry that women contribute to- Don't ask me that.
She already gave you the answer, but- I genuinely don't believe that it's more men simp out here.
And I say that because if you take it from out of the sexual world, I'm not talking about OnlyFans.
I'm not talking about porn.
I'm not talking about strip clubs, clubs, none of that, none of that.
You're a model!
Who looks at you?
It doesn't...
First of all, don't cut me off.
I'm talking.
You're a model.
I am a model, but hear me out.
I genuinely believe that Women simp as well as men simp.
Because outside of that sex orientation, females will go out their way to put more effort into a male than a male would do a female.
If women will put so much into men, tell me why there's an explosion of YouTube channels that teach men how to get women, but not necessarily teaching women how to get men.
Thank you.
Tell me why there's a billion dollar industry that profits off of men's lust for women.
Tell me why there are more girls that go out on dates nowadays to get a free dinner or lunch than actually wanted to get to know the guy.
Why is there a whole sugar baby culture right now where women are able to extract resources, money, and time and attention from men without giving anything in return?
Oh, they gotta give something in return.
Well, there's some girls out there that honestly don't fuck sometimes.
Not all the time, but still.
But regardless, they're having sex and they're getting all this in exchange.
So what I'm trying to say is that there's way more male sims than female sims.
Look at your phone right now blowing up.
Yeah.
On Instagram.
Look at that.
You're a regular chick.
You're not famous or anything, yet you're getting a whole bunch of attention.
They're probably doing it because she's on air.
But my point is that a woman, right, that has zero status gets more attention than a guy that has a lot of status.
Facts.
Because there's more male simps.
Yeah.
I can't believe that we're even trying to debate this right now.
But you're not even in vogue.
You're not looking at it from...
Our perspective.
Like, I'm genuinely trying to tell you.
We have many times on the show.
No, you haven't.
2,000 women we've spoken to.
And right now, it's like, what, 3 in the morning?
You're still arguing this?
Nobody's arguing.
Were you born this way?
Was I born?
What do you mean, was I born this way?
What does that mean?
This dumb.
Anyhow, how about you?
Bro, you're trying to make an argument that there's more female simps when all the data shows that there's more men.
But nobody's arguing.
We're not arguing.
We're just talking.
What are you talking about?
You just said that there's more female simps and I said you're wrong.
No, there's not.
I didn't say there's more female simps.
I said it's 50-50.
Females can sip as much as men.
I said female can sip more as men.
That's what I said.
Why are you getting loud?
Because y'all not listening to me.
It doesn't even come close.
It doesn't even come close with men simping versus women simping.
It's a disingenuous argument.
Just because you might have simped over one or two guys doesn't mean that there haven't probably been 50 to 100 guys that haven't simped on you.
So I have a question.
Y'all never simped over a woman before?
Alright, next.
Of course we have, which is why we're able to say this.
It's an actual question.
Yeah, of course we have.
Every guy simped over a girl before.
You know what I mean?
Versus a girl might go through her whole life and never simp for a man.
Facts.
All right, man.
Y'all just straight taking L's today, man.
Holy man.
All right.
What was the question again?
My thoughts on the show?
Let's keep it short and sweet.
I'm going to say it was definitely unique and intense.
I love that.
Do you still believe in the wage gap?
No comment.
Not until I do my own personal research.
Denied!
She just doesn't want to admit she's wrong, which is great.
Even in the face of irrefutable statistical fact, doesn't want her to admit she's wrong.
That's fine.
Guys, book is out, Why Women Deserve Less.
I go into detail why the wage gap doesn't exist with a bunch of studies to include her faulty study as well about 80 cents on the dollar or whatever.
Yeah, man.
Eight chapters, 86 pages because, of course, women deserve less.
And I break down why you should not simp and what you really need to focus on.
You don't think men deserve less?
Well, men have to work for everything they get.
Women don't.
Men deserve more right now.
Why you think men deserve more?
That's rich.
Hold on.
Well, no.
Men have to work for everything they get.
What do men deserve?
Not all men.
Here's the thing.
A man...
I mean, I can't believe we're even having this discussion.
No, I'm not disagreeing with you, but what do men deserve?
Nobody's disagreeing.
I'm just asking a simple question.
Well, men have to earn everything they have versus girls don't.
What do men deserve?
What do you mean men deserve?
What do men deserve?
They don't deserve anything.
They got to work for it.
Yeah.
They earn everything.
That's the difference between female entitlement and men.
Men don't get anything given to them.
They have to earn their status.
They have to earn their money.
They have to earn their ability to be attractive to women.
Everything with a man is earned versus y'all.
They're just given.
You guys can all be on a yacht tomorrow with a celebrity.
I can't.
I gotta buy the yacht.
Or a podcast.
What was that?
I said I can't.
So we don't deserve?
We don't deserve?
Or we just deserve less?
Women deserve less because they get too much, in my opinion.
Well, not even my opinion.
It's factual at this point.
Girls get a lot given to them, and they don't have to necessarily earn it.
Facts.
I mean, being a gentleman in today's day and age is not that well-serving.
Hmm.
Y'all would bring this up at the end.
Oh, I gotta ask you a question.
Where you from?
Where you from?
We can answer that one off air, I guess.
Alright, guys, we'll catch you on the next one.
Fresh wants to go home.
Some of the ladies are tired.
Four hours long, man.
Yeah, alright.
We'll catch you guys on Wednesday, man.
Womanizer Wednesday.
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