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Feb. 9, 2023 - Fresh & Fit

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UKR/RUS War, Failure Of The Left, Feminism, Israeli Influence On 9/11, Epstein, COVID Lies & MORE. The MOST BASED Podcast!

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	What's up, guys?
	Welcome to the Freshman Podcast, man.
	We got a special episode with Gonzalo Lear.
	We're going to be discussing a bunch of things, whether it's, you know, RP Awareness, Girls, the War, Ukraine, everything that y'all want to know, man.
	Let's get right into it.
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	Let's go. Let's go.
	Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
	I'm never told.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm just saying.
	All right, and we are back with Gonzalo Lira, a.k.a.
	Coach Red Pill.
	Guys, I am so excited for this interview.
	Quick announcement before we get into the show.
	It's rumble.com slash freshfit, guys.
	We're live on every platform right now.
	This interview might get a little saucy where we might have to go to Rumble because, as you guys know, YouTube is not necessarily as friendly as Rumble.
	But you know what, man?
	Fuck all that, man.
	We got a special guest in the house.
	It's almost a year later.
	We got a legend, man.
	Yeah, we got a legend in the house, man.
	Still alive.
	He's still alive as well.
	I don't know.
	Gonzalo, we know who you are.
	I'm sure a lot of people in the audience know who you are, formerly known as Coach Red Pill.
	Can you introduce yourself to the audience for those that may not know you?
	Sure.
	I'm a writer by trade.
	I worked in Hollywood and published some novels back in the day.
	And then I went into business for myself.
	I produced movies and then got into different businesses like renewable energies and whatnot.
	And then in 2016, I basically retired.
	I'm 54.
	I'm about to turn 55 now.
	And in 16, I retired.
	And in 17, I started doing YouTube as a hobby.
	I started doing the Coach Red Pill channel because I have a small son.
	Right now he's seven.
	And I wanted to do videos that would sort of like help him along insofar as the important things in life.
	I mean, not just picking up girls.
	I actually never do videos about picking up girls.
	I do about how to handle women, right?
	And also handle other stuff, you know, how to invest, how to trade, how to, you know, how to tip somebody, you know, why you should never do a personal loan, shit like that.
	I mean, useful stuff for a young man because I figure, you know, I'm an older father and my kid, when he's old enough to need good advice, I might be like a doddering old fool like Joe Biden or dead, right?
	That's why I did my channel and the thing took off and a lot of people really enjoyed the videos and so for a few years I was doing Coach Red Pill content and I was winding it down in 2021.
	I was just getting tired of it and then I pretty much wound the whole thing down but then in 2022 Here I am in Ukraine in the middle of the war.
	I'm in Kharkov, Ukraine, which is the easternmost major city in Ukraine.
	I'm about 25 miles from the border with Russia.
	I was literally in Kiev when the war started.
	I had to go there on business.
	I arrived the night before the invasion.
	Perfect timing.
	I was staying at this very nice hotel.
	And I started doing like these impromptu videos about what I was seeing because I was right in the middle of downtown Kiev on Krishatik Avenue.
	And so I do these videos about what I was seeing and what I thought and all the rest of it.
	And that got me into trouble.
	And, you know, I got actually got kicked out of my hotel because they said that what I was saying was Russian propaganda.
	Yeah.
	I've been accused of being a Russian propagandist because I just tell the truth.
	Because I'm from Chile.
	I don't have a dog in this fight.
	I married a Ukrainian woman whom I met in Paris.
	She was actually the au pair of some college friends of mine.
	And she was from Ukraine, but she's half Ukrainian, half Russian.
	You know, for me, it's like I'm not on either side.
	I just want to know what's actually happening.
	And of course, I want what's best for the Ukraine nation and the Ukraine people.
	I want to minimize the loss of life and destruction.
	And so I started doing videos about what I was actually seeing.
	I got into shitloads of trouble.
	And eventually I got arrested by the...
	Sbu, the State Security Services, back in April.
	That's when I went offline and all my accounts were taken away from me.
	So I had to start over.
	And yeah, we came to an agreement with the Sbu that they would leave me alone and I wouldn't be on Telegram because Telegram is like the big social media platform that everybody in Ukraine is following.
	Yeah.
	So long as I'm on Twitter and YouTube, it seems to be fine.
	And fuck it.
	I'm old enough that I don't give a shit anymore.
	I have the luxury of no longer caring what anybody else thinks.
	And I'm at an age that anything that happens to me is interesting.
	When I was arrested, I have to admit, the thing that I was scared I suppose.
	But I was really like, what the fuck is going to happen now, man?
	This is so cool.
	Because I've never been arrested.
	I'll tell you the extent of my law-breaking career.
	My criminal career.
	This is it.
	I got a ticket in 96 in LA for an illegal U-turn.
	And in 2001, I got another ticket for walking my dog without a leash.
	That's it.
	That's my criminal career.
	That's in New York City, right?
	In 2001?
	Yeah, I was living in Manhattan.
	And that's the extent of my law-breaking career, my criminal mastermind kind of career shit.
	And so, yeah, I was like, what the fuck is going to happen now, man?
	So, well, I was incommunicado for about a week.
	And I was interrogated a couple times.
	It's not like they put it in the movies.
	They didn't tear off my fingernails or anything like that.
	Scary, sure, but it was also really, really boring.
	Because that's something else they don't tell you, that when you're arrested, A lot of times you're just sitting somewhere for hours and you have no idea what the fuck is going to go on.
	You have no internet, no phone, no nothing and not even a book to read or something or a magazine.
	You're just sitting there waiting.
	It's not what it's cracked up to be.
	We were talking before the show started about poor Andrew Tate.
	He must be bored out of his mind.
	That's the thing that happens when you're held.
	There's nothing to do.
	But anyway, after that whole episode, I've been doing video content describing the different geopolitical ramifications of the different things that have been going on.
	And so, of course, you know, before this conflict, I kind of like knew what was going on in the Donbass, but not the details.
	But of course, out of necessity, I've become like an expert at it.
	Just because, you know, you hear so much information and you're gathering so much data points to figure out what's going on and what's going to happen into the future.
	And so, yeah, that's basically been my thing now.
	So you guys want to know about the Ukraine conflict?
	Ask away.
	I'm an open book.
	So, a couple things, too, because I want the people to kind of know.
	Your educational background, you went to an Ivy League school.
	It was Dartmouth, right, if I'm not mistaken?
	Yeah, good memory, man.
	I went to Dartmouth.
	I graduated with honors with a degree in philosophy and history, Russian history, ironically enough.
	Yeah.
	I had the opportunity to pursue a PhD in Russian history or go into finance, into banking because my family background is in finance.
	But I decided to go to Hollywood and see what happens and it worked out.
	So here I am.
	I'm not hurting for money.
	I'm bored because there's not a hell of a lot to do here in Kharkov.
	And so when you guys said to me, hey, do you want to do a show?
	Thank you!
	Thank you!
	I'm so fucking bored!
	Yeah.
	I would imagine, man.
	And we're happy to have you.
	And, you know, honestly, I remember watching your channel, man, even when I was working for Uncle Sam back in the day.
	And the thing I always liked was you gave a lot of practical, realistic, based advice that's rooted in reality versus feelings.
	I mean, hell, even though you're an Ivy League degree holder, you tell people college is a scam most of the time.
	Don't major in anything dumb.
	Like, you basically go through life If you make mistakes or you do things well, you tell people, this is what I did right, this is what I didn't do right, and you're very forthcoming about your mistakes.
	And you can tell that the videos that you make are for your son because they're very candid.
	And I always respected and admired that about your content, that it was like OG advice that's realistic to help you become a better man in all different fields.
	I remember finding your video because you had one titled, Don't Date Single Moms.
	And your breakdown was so flawless, bro.
	I was like, damn!
	I'm dumb for doing this stuff, man.
	So, shout out to you, man, because you break it down in a simple format where any guy can understand and take it and apply it right away.
	So, shout out to you, man.
	I got into shitloads of trouble for that video.
	I know!
	And one other thing too, Gonzalo, you mentioned that you used to work in the renewable energy, and we're going to get right into Ukraine after this, but you did a fantastic video on your Patreon where you talked about how renewable energy is a scam and how people like Greta Thunberg, quite frankly, are very stupid and don't know what they're talking about.
	Can you give us a quick, because I think that video was so important and it was really well done, because you actually come from that background and you understand Why is renewable energy a scam?
	Just summarize it real quick and we'll get into that.
	Okay, real quick.
	I got into it because it was a business opportunity that came my way to get into the solar panel energy business in Chile.
	And I thought, oh man, this is going to be great.
	I'm going to be doing good for the environment, right?
	And it'll be a great conversation starter at cocktail parties and shit.
	I'm in renewable energy, man.
	I'm one of the cool kids, right?
	I'm a nerdy SOB, so of course I gotta work with what I got and if I get into some cool business deal, maybe something will come my way, right?
	So anyway, I got into it with all these illusions and they were quickly dispelled.
	The whole thing is a fucking scam.
	In terms of net...
	The damage caused by renewable energies is far more than what is saved.
	They talk about how windmills and solar panels and shit like that is good for the environment.
	That's bullshit.
	The chemicals necessary to make the solar panels, for instance.
	The minerals necessary.
	They create all kinds of environmental messes at the mining site.
	Let alone the actual panels, because you have to put these panels on the countryside, in land that could be used for farming, for instance.
	And what happens is that if any one of these stupid panels break, and they all break eventually, what happens is that out of them comes all kinds of minerals, cobalt, all kinds of very dangerous substances spill out.
	And wreck that land.
	And you can't use it for farming after that because there's no way to extract it.
	I'm just talking about solar power.
	The windmills, right?
	Again, that's a big old scam.
	The blades themselves are made of these polymers that are not biodegradable.
	So all they can do is just bury them forever and they'll never decay.
	And on top of that, of course, When it's coldest, when you need electricity, the solar panels don't work because it's usually going to be cloudy or overcast or just not enough sunlight.
	The same goes for windmills.
	When it's coldest, when you need the most electricity, there isn't going to be that much wind.
	And then you start getting into the people involved in this.
	And they're all a bunch of fucking scamsters.
	And I can tell you for a fact that a lot of times, you know, these NGOs, like environmental groups of various sorts, non-governmental organizations, they will outright tell you that if you don't pay them off, they will cause all kinds of havoc for you and make sure that you don't get the permit necessary to install your solar panel or windmill or whatever the hell.
	And so there's a lot of bribery and corruption going on.
	It's a big old fucking scam.
	And the best energy is nuclear.
	That's the most efficient and it's the cleanest of all, regardless of what the environmental people say.
	But for ideological reasons, they are opposed to nuclear and they want to go with this other stuff.
	There's also the issue of malincentives by the government.
	The government, for instance, with Tesla, Tesla doesn't make money from its cars.
	It makes money from the carbon credits that it accrues, that it can offset its expenses and make money that way.
	And those carbon offsets exist because of government regulations.
	It's not something inherent in the business.
	And so all of it is just a big old scam.
	You've got your government on the thumb of the scale, which makes it profitable, but at the expense of being an inefficient business.
	It's a big old scam any way you look at it.
	Greta Thunberg, she herself is a nobody.
	She's just an actress.
	Because her parents are big-time lefty agitators from back in the day.
	And so they just put her up there as like a puppet, just like Biden is a puppet.
	And so, you know, you've got to understand what you're dealing with here.
	It's a corrupt, corrupt scheme.
	And anybody who tells you different just doesn't know what he's talking about.
	Excuse me.
	Doesn't know what he's talking about or is pursuing some agenda or some bullshit.
	I mean, I'm telling you, it's a scam.
	Wow.
	How dare you!
	How dare you!
	You're robbing my childhood and my dreams.
	Yeah, bro.
	It's hilarious.
	And, you know, they've talked about how, you know, if you have a pet, like, you know, you're releasing way more stuff into the environment from the production of dog and cat food than, you know, vehicles.
	So it...
	The whole environment.
	And then, you know, water raising and everything else like that.
	I mean, I remember in your breakdown, it was like three hours.
	I watched the entire thing.
	You did a whole PowerPoint documentary on it.
	You know, the water raises what?
	Maybe like an inch or something like that.
	And the reality, it's not that it's not occurring.
	It's that it's insignificant, guys, is really what it boils down to.
	When it's like global warming, I'm like, all right, bro.
	We're already warm, bro.
	It's all good.
	It's all good.
	You know, so I think it's not that it's...
	And I think the environmentalists, it's not to say that it's not going on.
	It's that it's insignificant.
	Kind of like the beer bug, if you know what I'm talking about, from 2020.
	Oh my God, we're all gonna die!
	And look what happened now.
	You know what I mean?
	That's the people that went ahead and got jabbed.
	But we won't even go into that right now before we got kicked off.
	But we'll talk about that maybe more on Rumble.
	So, all right, cool.
	So, what I'll do...
	I guess I'll kick it off here first with, and I wrote a whole outline here.
	Should we read the chats first?
	Yeah, we can.
	Okay, I'll read some of these chats real quick, guys, and then we'll get into the Ukraine situation.
	I told y'all this is going to be a great guest.
	We've got 3,000 plus y'all in here, so do me a favor and like the video, subscribe to the channel.
	Also, support CRP Gonzalo Lira down below, guys.
	I got both of his YouTube channels, Gonzalo Lira, again, and I got the Roundtable where he does conversations.
	He has, you know, really great discussions with other people that are very well-versed in geopolitics.
	So if you want to know what's really going on in the world and you don't want stupid, brainwashed Western media, go ahead and check him out over there on those two YouTube channels.
	And he also has Patreon as well.
	Yes, and check him out on Patreon as well.
	And his Twitter!
	Okay, so, alright, Christina, pull up those things.
	We got Christina in the back, so shout out to her.
	Okay, we got Glock Izzy here goes, FNF, much love.
	I hope bro knows exactly what's going on.
	The media isn't truthfully informing Americans.
	Don't worry, Glock Izzy, you're going to see right now.
	And then we got Montreal Rather goes, Watched your fetish show earlier.
	Great breakdown.
	Sure did.
	Give me Krishan Rock and Blueface vibes.
	Blueface, this is your fate if you don't leave her.
	Yeah, it's an L. And then we got Dirk Mann, new member.
	Thank you very much.
	Shout to you.
	And then we got Omo goes, make sure to be as raw and as filtered as possible.
	We need the truth.
	Don't worry.
	That's why we got him here.
	And then we got Neeks goes, free Tate, WFNF, WSneeko.
	We'll get...
	Gonzalez take on the Tate situation as well because he lives in that part of the world.
	Love how much you have help males around the globe.
	If you ain't in TRW, y'all missing out.
	Network is your net worth for the Tates.
	Shout out to you, man.
	And then we got here.
	Xavier goes to the U.S. government bomb the Nordstrom pipeline.
	We're going to talk about this.
	Don't worry.
	Yes, we're definitely going to talk about that.
	Chris is not here.
	Glad to see Gonzalo back on Fresh Free.
	He brings a lot of value outside of these 304s.
	Okay, I appreciate that.
	Chris is not here.
	And then we got Cal L and then one more.
	Coach, I'm glad to see you back on the show to hear your thoughts and slash point of view.
	I hope your leg is healing after the motorcycle accident.
	Thank you, Marina Walter, for bringing CRP OGs.
	Much love from the Communist Canada.
	Okay, shout to Canada.
	And then, so is Gonzalo telling us Elon is scamming through his solar panels?
	I don't know about the solar panel business, but insofar as Tesla, it's pretty much of a scam.
	Bam.
	So, Coach, so the people obviously know that there's a conflict going on in Ukraine, you know, with the Russians invading.
	It's been almost a year now.
	I think if I'm not mistaken, it was February 24, 2022 when they invaded.
	But how did we get here?
	There's obviously a very long-standing history between Russia and Ukraine.
	You did a fantastic primer video on this on your Gonzalo Lyra channel again, which I actually watched, which perfectly describes the relationship between Russia and Ukraine.
	But can you summarize for the people how we got here and the primer between Russia and Ukraine and what led to this conflict?
	Sure.
	Look, you've got to keep in mind that when the collapse of the Soviet Union happened in 1990, right, Ukraine became an independent nation.
	And Ukraine, there's a big population of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, roughly half the population, and they are concentrated in the East and the South.
	I'm in the city of Kharkov, and this is a traditionally Russian city.
	In fact, it was part of the Russian Empire.
	And Crimea, the peninsula that's in the Black Sea, that has historically always been Russian, okay, since 1776, when it was captured by Catherine the Great.
	And so what has happened is that this conflict was stirred up by the West because what they really want is that they wanted to have Crimea for themselves, for NATO. They wanted to put a NATO base on Crimea.
	It currently has at Sevastopol, the city of Sevastopol, on Crimea.
	It has a Russian naval base.
	Can you tell the people real quick what NATO is?
	NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
	It is the military alliance that was formed after the end of the Second World War to confront Soviet Union expansionism into Europe.
	And what happened was that the United States didn't want the countries of Europe to start swinging towards the communists, towards the Soviet Union.
	And so they created this military alliance that was originally France, West Germany at the time, the United Kingdom, the United States, Spain, Portugal, a few other countries, Italy.
	And what happened was that this military alliance, once the Soviet Union ended, it didn't really have a reason for being.
	And it just kept on adding new members.
	And what happened was that eventually NATO wanted to expand into Ukraine, and the Russians didn't want that by any stretch of the imagination.
	Imagine if the Chinese had a military alliance with countries like Panama, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and finally they said, oh, we want Mexico to join our military alliance.
	And of course, unspoken would be that Chinese nuclear missiles would be in Huachaca, would be in Tijuana, aimed at the United States.
	How would people in the United States go for that?
	Would they say yay or nay?
	They'd be like, fuck no.
	We don't want Chinese nukes right on our fucking border.
	And so that's basically the conflict.
	It was basically American expansionism insofar as NATO, using NATO as the excuse To come closer to Russia and have nuclear missiles on Russia's border and something that they were not going to allow.
	And the United States specifically provoked the Russians by means fair and foul to eventually the Russians said, fuck it, we're just going to have to invade and take it over and create some sort of buffer zone.
	Because over the last eight years, ever since the coup d'etat in 2014, The Kiev regime has been virulently anti-Russian.
	They've outlawed the Russian language.
	They've changed the books, changed the history, and really persecuted Russian speakers and ethnic Russians.
	I mean, it was really like ethnic cleansing.
	And you have to understand, we're talking about half the population of the country of Ukraine.
	And so, during the eight years from 2014 to 2022, something like 16,000 ethnic Russians were killed in the Donbas region because of constant shelling, artillery fire, by the Kiev regime against the area of the Donbas.
	You hear about the Donbas a lot, and it's basically the areas of Lugansk and Donetsk, okay?
	Sometimes it gets a little confusing because there's the city of Lugansk, the city of Donetsk, and also the region of Lugansk and Donetsk, and those two regions and a little other adjacent land is called the Donbass, for historical reasons that are important in this conversation.
	The Russians in Russia were sick and tired of this.
	They were sick and tired of the Donbass being relentlessly shelled and there was a peace plan called the Minsk agreements, Minsk II agreements to be precise, that were signed in 2015 and they were approved by the United Nations and it was a plan to have long-term peace in the region and end The shelling and the disputes going on there.
	And what happened was that it's emerged now that the Western leaders who signed that agreement are now saying that, oh, we didn't really mean the agreement.
	We had no intention of implementing the agreement.
	We were just doing it to buy time to arm the Ukraine Armed Forces with as much weapons as possible, get as many soldiers as possible to fight the Russians.
	So, you know, and also another data point that has emerged since our last conversation.
	It's become indisputably true that what happened was that in the run-up to the conflict, which started on February 24th, Well, the Kiev regime, the Zelensky regime, was amassing a very large army right across from the Donbass, and they were going to invade the Donbass, ethnically cleanse it, and potentially even attack Russia itself.
	They were getting ready to do this operation in March.
	Basically, the Russians beat them to the punch.
	That's basically what happened.
	I mean, I'm grossly oversimplifying a lot of data points.
	That video that you mentioned, the Ukraine primer on my Vinzal Olyra again channel, that gives you an overview of it.
	It's about, I forget how long it is.
	I think about 40 minutes long or something, because it's complicated.
	But I hope I explained it in a way that's understandable.
	And in this conversation, you know, I'm just giving you the CliffsNotes version of it.
	But that's basically what's going on.
	And the Donbass region, if I'm not mistaken, it's Eastern Ukraine, correct?
	I mean, if we're going to...
	I guess if I can crudely summarize it for the people, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Eastern Ukraine typically is dominated by ethnic Russians versus Western Ukraine is dominated by Ukrainians.
	And when you say the Kiev region, you're speaking about the Western Western Ukrainians who want to basically get more of a Western rule of law and a Western type type government installed in Ukraine versus you have the eastern side who are ethnically Russians who identify more with you're speaking about the Western Western Ukrainians who want to basically And it puts them in a unique situation.
	And then you talked about the invasion of Crimea and how that's a Russian territory now.
	And in 2014, And that led to very heavy sanctions between Russia and the United States, which ended up hurting Russia significantly from an economic standpoint.
	Yeah, that's where you were talking about Crimea.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off with the whole NATO thing, but I kind of want the audience to understand what NATO is because that's an integral part of this conversation.
	Yeah, because this war isn't between Russia and Ukraine.
	This war is between Russia and NATO. NATO is pushing the Ukrainians to fight against the Russians.
	Because the fact is, right around the time we had our conversation, see, in early April, The Russians and the Ukrainians had come to an agreement, a ceasefire agreement, to end the hostilities.
	And it was NATO that pressured the Zelensky regime not to sign that agreement and to keep on fighting.
	And it guaranteed Western support for the Kiev regime to just keep on fighting.
	And Boris Johnson, in fact, flew to Kiev right around the time we did our podcast that time, in early April, I think it was.
	Right around that time he flew in and...
	Specifically told Zelensky to keep on fighting and that the West would take away its support if Zelensky signed any ceasefire agreement.
	So you see what's going on.
	Yeah.
	It's a proxy war, a proxy war where you use somebody else to fight for you.
	Yeah.
	And so the Ukrainians are a proxy for NATO and the Ukraine's soldiers are dying for NATO, not for Ukraine.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	Can you tell us, because the Western media has been very good at kind of, you know, muddying the waters when it comes to casualty.
	Lying.
	Lying.
	Yeah.
	Straight up, yeah.
	Like, you know, muddying the waters, lying, however it is.
	Yeah, they've been capping about how many people are actually dying from this conflict.
	Can you give us the more accurate numbers on what the casualties are looking like for both sides?
	Sure.
	The casualties killed in action.
	I actually have a thing right here.
	Let me just find it real quick.
	The casualties insofar as...
	Oh, shit.
	Where do I have this fucking thing?
	Okay, well, I'll bring it up later.
	The casualty figures at this time are on the Ukraine side.
	This is confirmed from two sources.
	One source is Douglas McGregor, who is a former lieutenant colonel.
	He was Trump's military advisor.
	He's a big deal.
	And when he says something, you can take it to the bank.
	He says that there have been 157,000 killed in action on the Ukraine side.
	157,000.
	Wow.
	And that's like for sure.
	And on the other hand, you've got the Russians who, from two different sources, we can say that they have lost roughly 19,000 men.
	Wow.
	So that's basically an 8 to 1 ratio of killed in action, right?
	And similar lopsided ratios are across the board insofar as planes, tanks, armored personnel carriers, you name it, artillery especially.
	I mean, that kind of lopsided approach because...
	Look, how can I put it?
	I've said this many times before.
	You know, the Italians are really good at food, and the French are really good at fashion.
	The Russians, they're really fucking good at war.
	I mean, bottom line, they know what they're doing when it comes to warfare.
	And they're winning, and they're winning decisively.
	And the war has become a war of attrition, of just grinding down the opponent.
	Because people say, well, you know, the Russians aren't capturing territory.
	But that's not their objective.
	They said very clearly at the beginning that what they planned to do was to demilitarize Ukraine.
	Demilitarize means destroying the Ukraine army.
	And they have been succeeding at this.
	A war of attrition is when you throw one of your guys and the other guy throws the other of his guys and you just slog it out.
	It's not big maneuvers.
	It's just this relentless grind.
	And the Russians, the way the Russians fight the war is very simple.
	See, they will come up to the line of contact with the opposing army, and they will just shoot artillery, these big cannons, right?
	They will shell the fucking shit out of it.
	I mean, just level the whole fucking thing.
	And it takes a long time.
	They are sending over 60,000 shells per day, okay?
	To give you an understanding.
	I mean, these are just, you know, these missiles are about this size, okay?
	I mean, a 50-millimeter round is, you know, six inches across in diameter, about that yay long.
	And, you know, they're sending 60,000 of these against the Ukraine forces, which...
	Because of their losses, they can only send roughly a tenth of that, you know, between three and five thousand shells per day in return.
	And so the Russians are just grinding it down.
	They level an area.
	And once they've leveled it, then they slowly bring in their troops to take over and mop up.
	That's their strategy.
	That's their approach.
	And it's proven incredibly effective if you look at the loss numbers.
	And by the way, those loss numbers, those figures, I mentioned Douglas McGregor, but there's been another big revelation that appeared in the Turkish newspaper That had specific numbers.
	Let me find that fucking thing because I had around here and I can't seem to find it.
	The important point to understand is that, see, the figures are pretty accurate because this Turkish newspaper said that they had gotten a leaked Mossad report.
	I don't know if that's true or not because I think it might have been from the Turkish army and the Turkish army said this claim that it was Mossad, you know, who's going to check, right?
	But basically, the numbers from various sources seem to be accurate, insofar as the Ukraine losses of 157,000, insofar as the Russian losses of about 19,000.
	Well, that figure of 19,000 came from this report that was leaked to this Turkish newspaper.
	I'll give you the link to it in just a sec.
	But that same number was confirmed independently by the BBC, of all things, because the BBC, what they've been doing over the last year, Is that they've been scouring Russian social media to find notices of deaths, memorial services, that kind of thing.
	And they found that, you know, the hard number that they could reach was 12,000 Russian dead.
	And they estimated that it could be up to as high as 20,000, but not more than 20,000.
	So you see the BBC is saying, you know, between 12 and 20,000 dead, Russian dead.
	And this leaked report says 18,850 dead as of the end of January.
	So you see how those two numbers are pretty much aligning.
	So the notion that it's, you know, the Kiev regime has lost 157,000 compared to roughly 19,000, 20,000 on the Russian side, that seems to be accurate.
	And that is a ratio of eight to one.
	And so it's just extraordinary.
	Because the Russians are winning.
	And anybody who claims otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.
	Do you think with enough US support it could change the pace of the war at all or no?
	It's impossible.
	It's physically impossible because you've got to understand the size of the countries we're talking about here.
	We were talking about Crimea and you look at that map and it looks like a little thing.
	That peninsula is the size of Massachusetts.
	Anybody who's ever been to Massachusetts can tell you it's a big state.
	And insofar as Ukraine itself, it's roughly the size of Texas, okay?
	And the Russians have complete dominance over the entire country with their missiles.
	They have these guided missiles that are, some of them are hypersonic, that goes like, you know, between 7 and 12 times the speed of sound.
	And because they go so fast, air defense systems don't even see them coming before they hit.
	And so the Russians can hit all of Ukraine with these hypersonic missiles.
	And the distances that Western gear and say, excuse me, the Americans and NATO would put troops into Ukraine and Western Ukraine, they'd have to travel the whole country to get to the Russians.
	And in that, you know, that travel, they would be hit by the Russians multiple times.
	I mean, they'd be annihilated.
	And so that's why it hasn't happened.
	The idea that the Americans can actually do anything is just laughable.
	It's just not going to happen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	See, that's Crimea.
	And as you can see, it looks like, oh, it's just, you know, it doesn't look that big.
	It's just this little, you know, almost like an island, right?
	It's the size of Massachusetts, okay?
	No way can anybody capture it if they wanted to.
	I mean, forget it.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Understandable.
	Cool.
	You've got to understand, the whole situation of this conflict, it didn't need to happen.
	It only happened because the Americans wanted it to happen.
	The American leadership class has a hard-on for Russia.
	They hate them.
	And the fact is, when you start looking at the biographies of a lot of the principal players, people like Secretary of State Tony Blinken, under Secretary Give us one sec, guys.
	Yeah.
	Alright, guys.
	We might have a technical issue.
	Remember, he's in Ukraine, so...
	He's in Ukraine, guys, with a spotty internet, so...
	That's kind of what's going on.
	Do some more chats here?
	Yeah, I mean, we could read the chats.
	Yeah, I think his internet might have gave out.
	Alright.
	Give us a second, guys, and we'll continue on.
	I pulled up Krami on the map for y'all so you guys can see what was going on.
	He's on the ground, so.
	Gabby G became a new member.
	Shout out to you.
	Shout out to you, Gabby.
	I appreciate that.
	We're slowly becoming getting girls on the show.
	Another girl.
	Listening to the girls getting to watch the show.
	Is this man smoking a joint?
	That was Haram.
	Okay, he's back.
	It's a cigarette.
	It's a cigarette, guys.
	No, don't worry.
	He doesn't smoke weed.
	All right.
	Sorry about that, Gonzalez.
	You were talking about the Crimea for the people so they can kind of get an idea of why it's, I guess, important for Russia to have that controlled.
	But yeah.
	I think he froze again.
	He's back.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I'm back.
	I'm back.
	You guys hear me?
	Yeah, we got you.
	My internet.
	I can't do anything about it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We get it.
	So go on.
	What's your next question?
	No, you guys were talking about Crimea.
	I showed the peninsula why it was important for Russia from a strategic standpoint to have it.
	And then, hold on.
	So I was asking basically if they got enough U.S. support, could they change the war?
	But no, they can't.
	No way.
	No way.
	I'll tell you what's going on right now in this particular drama.
	The Russians have assembled an army that's credibly estimated that about 700,000 men.
	They've got like 150,000 in Belarus, right on the northern border of Ukraine, right just to the west of Kiev.
	Then they've got another 150,000 right across the border from me, as a matter of fact.
	In the region of Belgorod, which is, like I said, I'm in Kharkov, which is 25 miles from the border.
	And so right across the border, they've got like this army of 150 odd thousand men and another 150 odd thousand or more in the Donbass region in the south of Ukraine and Crimea.
	And they're getting ready for a big offensive.
	Everybody's talking about it.
	And what that offensive is going to entail exactly is unclear, but it's going to be something big.
	And what's happened as of the last couple of months is that the Russians...
	See, two, three months ago, the Russians were shelling at a rate of about 20,000 rounds per day.
	You know, those big shells that I was talking about.
	20,000 of those per day.
	And slowly, they've turned up the heat, and now we're up to 60,000 a day.
	They're basically softening the ground for whatever they've got in mind.
	And nobody knows what they're doing.
	Their OPSEC is impeccable.
	Nobody has any fucking idea.
	And here's something else.
	Whenever they say That they know what the Russians are planning, that they have inside information, and that they know that Putin and his generals are arguing or some bullshit like that.
	Know for a fact that they're lying.
	Because the Russians are practicing unbelievably good upset.
	Nobody has any fucking idea what they're up to.
	And anybody who says that they know what they're up to is just lying.
	And anybody who says that, oh, I have, like, insider information that, you know, Putin and his generals are arguing and that the whole Kremlin is about to collapse, it's a lie.
	It's propaganda.
	Because nobody knows.
	Because they are fucking tight-lipped.
	And it's remarkable in this day and age where, you know, People leak all the time, people say shit all the time, and social media and all that.
	It's remarkable how tight they've been insofar as their information.
	And so that's why everybody's really scared, because nobody knows what the Russians are up to, but they see, because of satellites and such, that the Russians have this huge army surrounding Ukraine.
	And you don't assemble a force that big just for shits and giggles.
	You're gonna do something with it, okay?
	I mean, you're clearly going to do something big.
	Now, what that is, nobody knows until it happens.
	So we'll see.
	And by the way, people think that this big offensive is going to happen in the next, between now and, say, March.
	Okay?
	I mean, it's happening.
	And very credible and very intelligent military commentators are saying, it's going to happen now in February.
	Right now, something is going to come up.
	So we'll see, man.
	It's wild.
	I'll tell you that for sure.
	Yeah.
	So you said that the casualties for Ukraine are roughly 150,000 men versus about 18,000 to 19,000 for Russia.
	So how many men do you think Ukraine is losing a day, roughly?
	I think you said somewhere in another video, maybe a brigade of men a day?
	I don't know.
	I mean, there are a lot of numbers, but at the end of the day, that doesn't really matter what happens on any particular day.
	These losses are catastrophic because, of course, I'm only talking about the killed in action.
	I'm not including the people who have been wounded, incapacitated.
	This is KIA. Wounded in action, that's WIA, right?
	And you add up those guys, which is roughly about 240,000, we're talking altogether that the Zelensky regime has lost 400,000 men, either killed or wounded and incapacitated.
	There's also another contingent of like, I think it was like 17,000 POWs.
	And so, you know, they have lost the army.
	The army that they started with was 240,000 men.
	That army's gone, for the most part.
	Okay, now we're at the stage of using, like, territorial defense forces, which are basically like the National Guard, territorial defense forces.
	And most of those guys are middle-aged guys, not in good shape.
	You know, they're not up for a fight.
	And we see this from videos that are appearing in Telegram and TikTok.
	Of these guys who are like balding, you know, and they've got a punch and they're fighting, you know?
	What is your response to haters that say, oh, Gonzalo's a Russian propagandist.
	He doesn't know what he's talking about.
	These casualties aren't true, etc.
	What do you say to the naysayers?
	Well, I'll say that, you know...
	It's true, but I'm really pissed off because the checks that I'm supposed to get from Uncle Vladimir, you know, I'm not getting them, you know.
	I call up the Kremlin all the time, you know, and they give me the runaround.
	They tell me to go to talk to this guy, to that guy, and I try to talk to the big guy, you know, and I say, where's my mula, you know, and he's like, fuck you, man.
	He's Welsh-y on the deal.
	Yeah.
	Oh, fuck those guys.
	Look, my interest, and I'll be kidding aside, of course I'm kidding, just in case anybody's slow, right?
	But no, in truth, see, my approach has always been that when you just talk the truth, you don't have to remember much.
	When you spout lies, you know, you have to remember a lot more and you get tripped up by your lies.
	I find it just much easier to just tell the truth as I see it.
	And from the information that is credible, I'm not interested.
	Look, to insist, I don't have a dog in this fight.
	I am not on either the Russian side or the Ukraine side.
	All I want is for Ukraine to return to normalcy, to a peaceful status.
	I love it here.
	I've been living here off and on since 2016.
	I want there to be peace here.
	That's my only interest.
	And most definitely, I don't want to see the loss of the flower of Ukraine.
	Because all these young men who have been killed, they represent the future of Ukraine.
	And that future has been snuffed out.
	And it's been snuffed out because of the Americans.
	Because the people running things in the United States, like I mentioned before, Anthony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Wendy Sherman, Joe Biden, several of them have ancient ancestral hatreds towards Russia.
	Yes.
	They have it in their blood.
	Especially Biden.
	Well, Biden is because he's a grifter and Ukraine was a big cash cow for him.
	He made a lot of money off of Ukraine, off the corruption.
	I mean, this is indisputably true.
	Like in Ukraine, there's been a lot of biomedical laboratories here that the Russians have uncovered that were doing all kinds of creepy ass shit, genetic research, Targeted diseases targeting the Slobs specifically, ethnic Russians specifically, all kinds of nasty shit like that, okay?
	That makes COVID look like, you know, like nothing.
	And so these biolabs, a lot of them were funded and part of, you know, Hunter Biden's whole schemes.
	And remember, you know, Hunter Biden said it himself, you know, 10% goes to the big guy.
	You know, all kinds of corruption is going on in Ukraine.
	Ukraine is like this rock.
	You lift it up and all kinds of Wrigley shit starts moving around.
	And so, look, Biden has an invested interest in this, but also because of the monetary situation.
	But when I talk about Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken, Wendy Sherman, you know, these people, because of their ethno-religious background, they hate Russia and they want to see it destroyed.
	Because what they really want is not only just regime change in Russia, they want to break up Russia into smaller countries so that they can exploit them financially.
	Because Russia is an extremely rich country.
	It's rich in natural resources, rich in human resources.
	And they want to basically break up Russia so that they can enslave these smaller countries like they enslaved Ukraine.
	Because you've got to understand, Ukraine is a rich country.
	The people are very educated.
	It has a lot of agricultural resources, energy resources, mineral resources, you know, a huge amount of the neon gas necessary for chip manufacturing, for instance.
	It comes from Ukraine and also from Russia.
	But the point is, see, this was a rich country.
	But it's incredibly poor because of the corruption of a lot of these foreigners, these Westerners, these Americans, who have used different subterfuges to exploit Ukraine and keep it poor.
	Before the conflict, Ukraine was the second poorest country in Europe, and it shouldn't have been, because it has everything to be extremely successful.
	But it was poor because of the corruption.
	That was propped up by the West.
	Because the way it happened was that, see, there are oligarchs here in Russia, in Ukraine, excuse me.
	And what happened was that the Westerners would prop up these oligarchs.
	And these oligarchs were just basically bloodsuckers, vampires.
	Then they would extract money, resources, capital from the country and send it to the West and share it with some of their masters in Washington and New York and Brussels.
	So that's what's going on here.
	And I think that part of the reason that the Americans are so pissed off over the Russian invasion is because their little kitty, their little piggy bank, Is being fucked with.
	And so, you know, a lot of it has to do with money.
	And like I said, this ancient ancestral hatred for Russia, because like Victoria Nuland's grandfather, for instance, he fled Russia in 1907 after a pogrom, an anti-Jewish pogrom in Russia.
	And he instilled an everlasting hatred for Russia in his son and then later on his granddaughter.
	And Victoria Nuland is the one calling the shots in the State Department insofar as the Ukraine conflict.
	So, yeah, this is what's going on.
	Now, for the people out there that aren't familiar with how, I guess, the Bidens are connected to Ukraine from a financial standpoint, can you kind of give a quick overview?
	Sure.
	Because I don't think people understand, because people keep wondering, well, why do we keep giving so much money to Zelensky to fight this war?
	You know, why is Biden so big on giving him billions and trillions of dollars to fight Russia?
	Yeah.
	Why is that?
	Well, he's been talking about Russia since the 70s.
	And also, on top of that, he's been dealing with them since Obama's administration when he was vice president.
	And I want you to understand the long-standing history that not just Biden, but his son, etc., have tentacles with Ukraine.
	So, all right, let me...
	Christina, switch the camera to fresh.
	I'm going to adjust some of this.
	But go ahead, Gonzalo.
	I'll let you take it away.
	Sure.
	Okay, so what happened is that, see, the Biden crime family has been allied with various oligarchs here in Ukraine.
	And by way of these relationships with these oligarchs, they've been able to get paid off.
	Like, to give you a specific example, there's a very famous oligarch called Igor Kolomoisky.
	He is a Ukrainian, Israeli, Cypriot national.
	He's got passports from those three countries.
	And what happened is that he owns Burisma, which is a gas company here in Ukraine.
	And Hunter Biden was on the board of directors of Burisma.
	It was basically a no-show job, and he was getting paid a million dollars a year.
	To just do nothing.
	I mean, he didn't have to show up to the meetings, okay?
	And that's how money was funneled to the Bidens.
	And that's just one example, okay?
	Igor Kolomoisky is a very interesting character because he's the guy who set up Zelensky to be president.
	Crumble, guys.
	We're getting off of YouTube.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead, brother.
	No, no, no.
	No problem.
	And so...
	Igor Kolomoisky had a television station, and by way of this television station, I mean, Kolomoisky himself ran for president back in the day, and he failed miserably because he's not an attractive candidate.
	And so what he decided to do was have his own puppet.
	And so he created the show by way of his TV station called Servant of the People, which was supposed to be sort of like an accidental president.
	And this accidental president was played by...
	Zelensky, Vladimir Zelensky was the actor.
	He was just an actor, a very successful actor in Ukraine.
	And he was the lead of this show, Servant of the People, that was a fictional president of Ukraine who became president by accident, and he tried to turn Ukraine more to the West, to Europe, you know, that sort of thing.
	That was the show, right?
	And then Kolomoisky ran Zelensky as an actual candidate for president in 2017.
	And he won because of his TV popularity.
	But the guy is just a fucking actor.
	Now, here's the interesting thing.
	He was a successful actor in Ukraine.
	Good on him.
	There are successful actors in all kinds of different countries, local actors, famous actors in Mexico and whatever.
	But the thing is, he was paid just as a usual actor.
	And as president of Ukraine, he was paid a salary, you know, a couple hundred thousand dollars a year or something, the normal amount.
	But he now has a fortune that is estimated to be north of a billion dollars.
	How the fuck do you think that happened?
	How is that possible?
	If he's an actor.
	Yeah.
	I mean, how does an actor who becomes president all of a sudden wind up sitting on top of a fortune of over a billion dollars?
	Okay.
	He got paid off.
	Come on.
	I mean, we're all grownups.
	We know what's what.
	You know, he got paid off by different people.
	And by the way, all the money that the Biden administration is sending to Ukraine, that's not quite accurate because people talk about all the money.
	Because the money is not actually going to Ukraine, or not all of it, not a hundred and some odd billion dollars.
	No, what's going on is that Biden is saying this money is going to be dedicated to Ukraine, but they pay the military industrial complex in the United States for the weapons.
	Okay?
	So this is really a way to prop up the military industrial complex.
	Just as the malady, the sickness that we all had, and then the shot, remember that?
	That was a way to get a lot of money to big pharma.
	The Ukraine operation is a way to get a lot of money to the military industrial complex.
	Companies like Raytheon, General Dynamics, you know, all the rest of them.
	Lockheed and so forth.
	So this is a big old scam.
	You've got to understand that the United States is no longer a country that represents the interests of the people.
	The United States is a kleptocracy.
	A kleptocracy is a government ruled by thieves.
	And the whole point of the United States and all these monies that are being sent here and there, it's just to make money for different interests.
	And fuck the people, fuck the best interests of the country.
	It's just a scam.
	The whole thing is a fucking scam.
	Okay?
	So when you say, oh, Biden is sending all this money to Ukraine.
	No, a sliver of that money is going to Ukraine.
	The majority goes to pay off the military-industrial complex.
	Bam.
	Well said.
	So we're on Rumble now.
	So we can get deep into it now.
	Yeah, we can get deep into it.
	Go on, cover Andrew?
	Yeah, let's talk about Andrew Tate.
	Sure.
	I'm an open book, man.
	Whatever you guys want.
	Before Andrew, real fast, because I know that one is going to be another topic in itself because we all know the injustice that's going on right now with that case.
	Real fast, because I want to get your take on it as well, Gonzalo, but I know that one's going to be...
	Take some time.
	Real quick, so you said since we last spoke, you mentioned earlier that the SBU grabbed you up for, you know, because a lot of people say, oh, well, you know, he's a Russian propagandist, etc.
	And really, you're an American citizen.
	You don't have much stake in this fight.
	There's no real reason to sit there and align yourself with Russia and put yourself in a bunch of danger for no reason, right?
	Now, for the audience, they might not know what this agency is.
	What is SBU? The SBU is like a combination of the FBI and the CIA. It's the State Security Service of Ukraine.
	It was formerly the KGB, back when it was the Soviet Union, and they renamed it as the SBU. The SBU, the initials are in Ukrainian.
	That stands for State Security Services.
	And there are different factions within it, different elements within it.
	I mean, imagine like the FBI and the CIA combined, okay?
	There'd be parts of this big organization that would do clandestine stuff and really nasty shit and others that are just law enforcement and just normal shit, right?
	And so you have to understand that the SBU is more complicated.
	It's not just like they're all evil, okay?
	And I'll admit that the people that I interacted with at the SBU were very reasonable, very professional and forthright.
	And so, yeah, in my own personal experience with them, I found them very professional.
	And yeah, it was not pleasant, but it wasn't, you know, yeah.
	Yeah, when you went missing, man, I was like freaking out.
	I was like, man, I hope nothing happens to him because, you know, because obviously you're one of the people that I rely on to kind of stay in touch with what's going on.
	And the thing I like as well, which you guys should all go check out his Roundtable channel on YouTube, is he brings other people in to have a vast knowledge of geopolitics and they have discussions and help.
	I mean, you even bring people on that disagree with you.
	Yeah, but what happens with those guys is that they start denying reality.
	That just pisses me off.
	I did one show with two guys who were like that.
	It was deeply upsetting to me because I knew that they were looking for a way to lie about the reality on the ground.
	I can't stomach that bullshit.
	When somebody starts lying to my face, I'm like, fuck you.
	I'm not one of those guys who can accept when somebody starts shoveling bullshit my way.
	Fuck you.
	Yeah, I'm not very happy with that episode, to tell you the truth, because I lost my temper.
	Yeah.
	Because I was just pissed.
	Because I knew that these fuckers know the truth, and they're lying.
	Okay?
	And they know that they're lying.
	Because, see, guys, if I'm talking to you guys, and you say something to me that's just wrong.
	Yeah.
	But you say it in good faith.
	You're not trying to pull one over me or your audience.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to tell you, look, I mean, all respect, but you're wrong on this issue, and you're wrong for these reasons, okay?
	And I know you guys, and I know you'd be like, oh, shit.
	Okay, so what I thought was the truth is not actually truth.
	It's propaganda or it's bullshit.
	Because you guys are honest brokers, right?
	Yeah.
	Did I drop out again?
	No, we got you.
	You're still here.
	So I know that you guys are honest brokers, so I'd be happy to patiently explain in as much detail as you want anything, because I know that you're not trying to bullshit anybody.
	But when I come across a couple of guys like these fuckers, They know the truth and they want to keep on peddling lies.
	Oh man, that's just...
	Come on.
	You guys are guys.
	When somebody is lying to your fucking face, how do you take it?
	You're like, fuck you.
	That's what happens to me.
	What's their incentive to lie?
	Like, with these people that are out here saying that Ukraine is winning and stuff, which, you know, is nonsensical when you really think about it, because let's say you hate Russia, right?
	Let's go ahead and take another angle here where you don't like Putin, you think he's evil, you hate Russia, etc., and you think that Russia had no grounds to invade Ukraine.
	Then if Ukraine was truly winning this war, why is Zelensky running around all over Western Europe and the United States asking for billions upon billions of dollars in aid if he was winning the war?
	Just looking at it from a deductive problem-solving standpoint, if you really think that Ukraine is winning, why is it?
	And I saw a couple people in the other chat saying, oh, he's lying, Ukraine is winning this war, blah, blah, blah.
	In my head, I'm like, are you serious?
	Zelensky is literally on the run.
	If he was winning, he would be able to stay in his own country.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so this bullshit that they're winning, on the one hand, a majority of people are just fools.
	They just don't know the reality.
	And they're not digging into the reality.
	They're just going along with whatever CNN and the mainstream media tells them to.
	And they're just stupid.
	But then there's a group of people who know that they're lying.
	And those fucking people, they get elevated by social media, by YouTube and the various algorithms, Facebook and whatnot.
	They get elevated so that these liars have a huge audience.
	Look, if I wanted to make money off of YouTube, I'd start lying my ass off and saying all kinds of bullshit.
	And from having a show that had 80,000 or 100,000 views, I'd get shows with 800,000 views, a million views or more.
	Yep.
	You know, if I lie, it would be frankly to my financial benefit to be lying, okay?
	And well, my YouTube channel isn't monetized.
	I mean, I just do it for shits and giggles.
	But anyway, that's another story.
	But you see my point.
	If I'm some YouTuber and I start hating on this Ukraine thing and spouting the bullshit, I make a lot of money.
	So that's why they're doing it, okay?
	And you got to understand why the mainstream media is doing it too.
	You see, the mainstream media You know, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, all the usual suspects, right?
	See, back in the day, they made money from advertising.
	So the advertisers didn't care about the content.
	They just wanted to put the ads in front of the eyes, right?
	And so these news outlets would do actual investigative reporting and find out what actually happened.
	What happened was that with social media, the social media platforms, what would they do?
	They would basically take the content from these mainstream outlets and put their own ads.
	And so Facebook, Google, they made money from the ads, but not the content creators.
	And so the mainstream media, they started going down in their revenue.
	And so how did they make up for it?
	They started getting government grants.
	And in some countries, you know, the mainstream media is fully funded by the government.
	In Canada, that's the case.
	In Germany, that's the case.
	And so these news outlets, they are no longer independent because if I'm paying you money, you're going to say what I want you to say.
	You're not going to say whatever the hell you want to say.
	And so that's what's happened.
	The mainstream media, since it's funded in part or totally by the government, They say the bullshit that the government is spouting.
	And they report it as news.
	And they can't get out of this Faustian bargain because their financial security depends on it.
	You see?
	So that's why the mainstream media lies to you.
	They're basically whores.
	It's an ugly reality, but that's the reality.
	They have become whores.
	And so the people in the mainstream media They, in particular, are the people I hate the most because they know that they are lying, and they are lying for their financial benefit.
	Now, and I think that's an important distinction that, you know, people understand that there's a strong incentive to tell people that Ukraine is winning because we are dumping quite a bit of money into this conflict, right?
	And there's obviously an incentive for the United States to be involved in this proxy war because Russia is an enemy to not just the United States but NATO. So everyone is invested in having Ukraine fight this war on their behalf.
	So if we were to say, oh, yeah, Russia only lost 20k.
	Meanwhile, Ukraine's lost 157k.
	It'll probably cause outrage all across the Western world.
	So for them, they have to kind of, you know, prop up this lie that no, Russia doesn't know what they're doing.
	They're incompetent in the battlefield, etc., which I'm sure Russia's made some mistakes as well.
	But I think at this point, it's very obvious that Russia's winning.
	And for them to say otherwise, the public would go mad.
	Yeah, but they're slowly starting to lay the groundwork because it's becoming almost impossible to hide the losses.
	And so they're slowly, you're starting to see it in the mainstream media here and there in the Telegram, a newspaper in the UK, in CNN, in different outlets, the New York Times, they're starting to lay the groundwork very gently that things aren't going their way insofar as the Ukraine situation is concerned.
	Oh, gotcha.
	So...
	The Battle of Bakhmut.
	I've seen you talk about this, that it's a very important battle.
	It's something that a lot of the mainstream media isn't covering.
	But from what I understand, you've been saying that it's going to be a very pivotal battle.
	Can you describe what this battle is and why it's so significant?
	Sure.
	Because you see, the Ukrainians, over the eight years between 2014 and 2022, they set up various lines of defense, trenches, fortifications, and so forth, along strings of villages in this area, right across from the Donbass, from behind which they were shelling the Donbass, as I explained before, killing 16,000 people over the eight years that they've been doing this, right?
	Am I still there?
	Okay.
	Yeah, we got you.
	Go ahead.
	So they have these layered defenses, okay?
	And they've been basically three big ones.
	I mean, I'm simplifying it, but for the sake of this conversation, basically three.
	And the Russians broke through the first.
	And the second one, which hinges on Bakhmut, this is the second line, and it's the biggest line, the strongest line.
	And Bakhmut is this town that in and of itself is not important.
	It is a crossroads of several highways and train lines, right?
	But in and of itself, it's not the issue.
	What's happened is that it's become important because the Zelensky regime has been pouring so many troops into defending it.
	And so the Russians, they are carrying out an attritional warfare that is trying to grind down the Ukrainian armed force.
	And so that's why they put so much attention on Bakhmut, because the Zansi regime is trying to defend it so hard, you see?
	And so it becomes a paradox.
	Hello?
	Am I still on?
	Okay.
	Hey, let me quit my camera real quick because I'll keep on talking and I'll go and get myself some coffee while we're at it.
	That's the chair moving, okay?
	Somebody said the other day, was that fart?
	No, it's just the fucking chair moving.
	Anyway, I'm going to follow along because the other day I crushed my motorcycle and I fucking fucked up my knee pretty badly.
	I'm not in the best of shape.
	But anyway, like I was telling you, Bakhmud in and of itself is not important, but it has become important because the Zelensky regime has poured so many troops into it to defend it.
	And so the Russians have countered by attacking it more and more fiercely to break through this line at Bakhmud.
	And so it's become a self-reinforcing cycle because as the Zelensky regime has lost forces, they put in more forces.
	They keep on doubling down on their bets, right?
	As opposed to withdrawing to their third line.
	Their third line is the Kramatorsk line, it's called.
	And so the Kiev regime, the Zelensky regime, is all hell bent for leather on holding on to Bakhmut and they keep on pouring in troops to do exactly that, you know, hold on to this line.
	And this plays right into the hands of the Russians because the Russians, they don't have to go looking for the Ukraine army.
	The Ukraine army is coming to them.
	Okay?
	And so that's what's been going on.
	Now, think of the U.S. Civil War, right?
	General Grant, Ulysses S. Grant, when he was named Commander of the Armed Forces, he realized that his goal was to...
	Go looking for the Confederate Army and defeat it.
	And so that's why the war, after he took command, started becoming basically this hunt throughout the South for the Confederate Army.
	Grant recognized that the way to win the war, the Civil War, was to destroy the Confederate Army.
	That's why there was all this movement of troops running around all of the south of the United States during the Civil War as they were hunting for the Confederate troops.
	But here, what's happened is that They created static lines.
	The Ukraine forces created static lines of defense.
	And to hold these static lines of defense, they have to keep on shoveling soldiers to man these defensive lines so as not to have a breakthrough.
	And so it's played into the Russians' hands that the Ukrainians bring their troops to Bakhmut and the Russians do what I said before, which is they use their artillery to just fucking annihilate everything.
	Including these soldiers.
	And so this is what's been going on.
	It's attritional warfare.
	It's like World War I warfare, which something similar happened at that time, but of course with much less technology than we have today.
	But the same devastating effects.
	That's why the casualty figures are so high.
	Yeah.
	So at this point, right, it's a battle of attrition, which means time is on Russia's side versus not on Ukraine's side, which explains Zelensky's, you know, desperation to secure more and more funding and aid, right, to buy himself more time.
	When do you estimate this conflict will more than likely come to an end or Ukraine won't be able to prop up a fight anymore?
	And I remember you mentioned last show.
	It should be over quickly, but I think it's way longer than that now.
	Oh yeah, because what happened was that when we spoke in early April, I thought it was going to be quick, because the overwhelming Russian advantage was so obvious to anybody who has even just a little bit of knowledge of the situation, that I thought that they would negotiate a ceasefire.
	But for the reasons I explained, NATO and the United States, embodied by Boris Johnson, made it very clear to Zelensky that they would not support him anymore if he signed any kind of ceasefire with the Russians.
	And then they had to go for broke.
	And that was the pivotal moment.
	Just when we were talking, had there not been that pressure from the West, had there not been that visit by Boris Johnson, the war would have probably wound down by June.
	And, of course, tens of thousands of soldiers' lives would have been saved.
	But the Zelensky regime did as he was told, and he went ahead with this attritional warfare, which, of course, played to the strengths of the Russians.
	And see, this is what's going on.
	Now, the key issue here is that right now, Bakhmud is about to be operationally encircled.
	Operationally encircled means when, as a practical matter, Hello, you there?
	No, we got you.
	We got you.
	Don't worry.
	You said they're going to be encircled.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And so it's about to be operationally encircled, which means that, see, there's no way for the troops to escape because the roads...
	Going out of Bakhmut are under what's called fire control.
	That is, the Russians have artillery position where they can hit that road anytime that they want to.
	So any kind of convoy or troops trying to evacuate can't leave because they'll be destroyed on the road.
	That's what an operational encirclement is.
	By the way, I didn't know any of this shit before this conference started.
	I didn't know the fuck, but you pick it up.
	It's just like anything.
	You pay attention to some sport that you've never seen before.
	You've never seen cricket before, but if you're into cricket for 11 months, you learn everything about it.
	That's what's happened to me.
	It's not that I claim to be an expert.
	It's that just by...
	Paying attention and looking at it very carefully and getting all the different viewpoints.
	This is what we learned.
	And so at this time, Bakhmud is about to be operationally encircled.
	It's something estimated by something like 10,000 soldiers, Ukraine soldiers, are there in Bakhmud now at this time that they will be encircled.
	This is becoming a key battle.
	Now, this battle has been going on since August.
	It's been a slow-growing affair.
	And again, to insist, you see, in attritional warfare, it's not about capturing territory.
	It's about destroying the opposing army.
	A lot of people said that, you know, like the Ukrainians won in Kotkov and in Kursan.
	That's not accurate.
	What happened was that the Russians withdrew.
	They withdrew in a very orderly manner because they figure, you know, holding on to this territory gives us no advantage.
	And it's difficult to supply the soldiers who are occupying this territory.
	And they can potentially be attacked and will have to devote resources to that.
	And so they simply withdrew behind two rivers, by the way.
	In the Kharkov region, they withdrew to the Oskar River behind it.
	And so the river itself became their barrier.
	And in Khursan, they abandoned the city of Khursan, which they had captured early in the war.
	They abandoned it because they realized, you know, we have 20,000 soldiers in that area.
	And, you know, we can defend it, sure.
	And we can supply it, sure.
	But it'll be complicated.
	So let's just withdraw it so we can use those 20,000 troops elsewhere to more effect.
	And so withdrew behind the Dnieper River in Kherson, see?
	And these were declared to be great Zelensky regime victories.
	They weren't great Zelensky regime victories.
	It's just the Russians decided to withdraw, and the worst part, As the Zelensky regime went forward to hold on to this territory, they came under Russian artillery fire.
	And they got fucking blasted to Mars, man.
	Like in the Kharkov region, they lost something like 6,000 men killed.
	After the Russians had withdrawn, because the Kiev regime advanced with their forces into that area, and the Russians had presided the whole area.
	And so they just blasted them.
	And then the same thing or something similar happened in Kursan.
	The Kiev regime cannot hold on to the city of Kursan because it's shelled relentlessly by the Russians morning, noon and night.
	And so it's sort of like a pirate victory.
	But in the West, they're so obsessed with capturing territory that they lose sight of what actually matters, which is holding on to your army.
	And they've frittered away the Ukrainian army.
	In order to capture territory that the territory in and of itself is meaningless.
	I mean, think of it in these terms.
	See, suppose, you know, like I decide to invade your house, right?
	And you try to defend your bedroom or your living room or whatever.
	See, but if I beat the shit out of you and knock you out, it doesn't matter.
	I can take over the whole house, right?
	See?
	I mean, that's what the Russians are doing.
	They don't give a shit about the house.
	They just want to knock out the homeowner.
	And once that guy is knocked out, then they can do whatever they want with the house.
	Yeah.
	And that's a fantastic analogy because I've noticed that this has kind of been the trend because, you know, the Western media pretty much says, hey, Russia is, you know, fumbling here, fumbling there.
	They're losing the war because they're not able to take over Ukraine as quickly as they thought they would, etc.
	But with the strategy that you mentioned where Russia is encircling certain key strategic areas geographically and then waiting for them to either surrender or get blown up by trying to restock on supplies or whatever it may be, that obviously is going to take more time because Russia's goal is to capture Ukraine that obviously is going to take more time because Russia's goal is to capture Ukraine intact, not necessarily bomb it to hell like we did with Iraq and then come in with the ground troops after the fact and go They want to go ahead and still kind of get it intact with infrastructure.
	Now, with that said, is that a big reason why it's been taking so long for Russia to get this thing done?
	And the second part of this question is what has Russia captured so far when it comes to Ukraine?
	Okay, the first question.
	The Russians, if they wanted to totally annihilate Ukraine, I mean, just turn it into the Stone Ages, the whole country, they can do it right now, whenever they want to.
	It's not a trick.
	They've got the artillery, they've got the missiles, they've got everything to just level the whole fucking country.
	I'm talking level it, okay?
	They've got planes, the bombers, everything, okay?
	So the fact that they're not doing it, it's deliberate.
	By the way, the Russians are attacking the electrical infrastructure.
	They're not hitting the power stations.
	This is important.
	They're hitting the electrical transmission centers.
	You know when you're driving and you see all these electrical towers and shit?
	Those are the electrical transmission stations.
	They're not hitting the power station.
	Because the power station, if they destroy that, that's a big deal.
	But if they hit the transmission centers, those can be easily replaced in a couple of months.
	Building a new power station takes a couple of years.
	And they're hitting the electrical stations.
	Transmission stations, not power stations, the electrical transmission systems, right?
	Because they want to cut the train system.
	Because the Ukraine forces are moving around the country by way of trains, which are electric.
	Okay.
	And so they are trying to disrupt the train system.
	They're not trying to hurt the civilians, because of course the civilians use the electrical system for heating and for water, okay?
	And they don't want to hurt the civilians, but it's an unintended side effect.
	So it's not that the Russians are trying to commit genocide.
	And by the way, the confirmed number of Ukrainian civilian casualties is about 9,000 up to this point.
	9,000 killed.
	That's a lot of people.
	That's a huge number of people.
	But considering the scope and size of this conflict, It's negligible.
	It's very, very small.
	Certainly microscopic compared to what happened in Iraq, for instance, or Libya with the bombings of the United States and NATO. So the Russians have been going out of their way not to hurt the civilians.
	Now, what was your second question?
	So the first question is, is it taking so long because of Russia's strategy of encircling a location and then going in and waiting for them to kind of just surrender or get bombed when they come out?
	Is that a part of the reason why it's taking so long?
	And then the second question is, when do you estimate they'll be done?
	What has Russia captured?
	And then when do you think this conflict will be done by?
	Yeah, one of the questions you answered, I remember now, is that you asked, you know, how much territory have they captured?
	They captured what?
	And they captured this...
	Hello, am I still on?
	You got you.
	Yeah, what did they capture so far?
	When do you estimate the conflict warrant?
	They captured roughly 20% of the country, and that's the bottom part of it, the south and the east of it.
	Now, you've got to understand, the initial Russian strategy in February was to have these lightning strikes with expeditionary forces to gain a lot of ground, to scare the Zelensky regime into negotiating.
	Now, this strategy didn't work in Kyiv and in the north, in Sumy and Zhuhyev, but it did work in the south because the administrators in the south of Ukraine that were Ukrainian, that were pro Zelensky, they fled.
	And the Russians have held on to all that territory.
	So the initial strategy that the Russians had of just going in fast with minimal forces, but going fast, going deep, And scare the locals into surrendering or fleeing, as the case may be.
	It worked in the South, but it didn't work in Kiev.
	Okay?
	And so you can say that it wasn't a mistake.
	It was actually a very sound strategy.
	It was very smart to use as fewest forces as possible to gain the political advantage.
	Because in the West, we think of war as like, okay, there's diplomacy, and then diplomacy ends, and you go to war, and you just destroy everything.
	But the Russians think of diplomacy, negotiation, and war as all on a spectrum.
	Okay?
	And so you apply force in order to improve your negotiating position.
	And so that was the strategy of the Russians initially.
	And like I said, it worked in the south and the east.
	It didn't work in the north.
	And during the summer, when they realized that this was going to be a prolonged conflict because the Zelensky regime had no intention of doing a ceasefire because of the NATO pressure that I mentioned before, that's when they decided, okay, fuck it.
	We're going to go in it to win it.
	And that's when they decided to do the military call-up, the military reorganization, bring in a lot more troops, a lot more artillery, a lot more everything.
	And just grind them down.
	And that's when that started over the summer.
	So this war has had a series of phases, if you will.
	They've all been based on the political landscape.
	If you think of it purely in military terms, like the Westerners would think, they'd say, oh, the Russians have failed because they didn't capture Ukraine in 72 hours.
	Yeah, because they didn't bomb the fuck out of it like the Americans would have.
	Okay?
	Exactly.
	I mean, that's the difference.
	Because you've got to understand that, see, for the Russians...
	Ukrainians are not foreigners.
	Ukrainians are their people.
	It's like if the United States invaded Canada.
	Those fucking Canadians, they're like Americans, just with a weird little accent sometimes.
	They're the same.
	So you're not going to want to hurt the civilians.
	You're not going to want to make them go cold and hungry and shit.
	You're going to try to end this as quickly as possible.
	You're not going to try to destroy the whole fucking country.
	So the Russians have the same approach.
	You've got to keep in mind Most Russians have family in Ukraine.
	And most Ukrainians have family in Russia.
	They're like a brother people.
	This is more like a civil war than a war of conquest.
	And the Russians don't have any interest in attacking any NATO country like Poland or the Baltics for a very simple reason.
	The Russian leadership class in particular It's very aware that one of the big reasons that the Soviet Union collapsed was because the Soviet Union was imperialist.
	It wanted to capture foreign people and control them.
	And the leadership class today in Russia is pro-Russian, pro-ethnic Russian, pro-cultural Russian.
	They're not interested in foreign people.
	And the Poles, for instance, they're fucking foreigners.
	They have a different language, different culture, different everything.
	I mean, in the United States, you might say, oh, they're white people.
	Yeah, but they're fucking different.
	It's like saying, you know, like a Native American And our Barbadian, for instance, like Fresh, right?
	You know, oh, they're people of color.
	They're all the same.
	Fuck you.
	They're not.
	They're totally different.
	They have totally different interests and totally different everything, right?
	So, yes.
	Just to say, oh, they're people of color, and therefore they're all the same.
	Or just to say, in this case, oh, the Poles and the Russians, they're all white people, so they're all the same.
	Fuck you.
	It's totally different.
	The Russians know this.
	They're not interested in capturing foreign people.
	They have no interest in foreign people.
	They only care about ethnic Russians, and specifically in Ukraine, because like I said, most Russians have family in Ukraine, in the Donbas, in Crimea.
	I was talking to a guy the other day, okay, and he was telling me, yeah, I mean, a Russian guy, and he's in Moscow.
	And he's telling me, yeah, you know, like, I've got family in Crimea.
	And I've got some family in Odessa.
	And I don't want them to suffer.
	You know, fuck you.
	Because they're my people.
	They're my family, you know?
	I mean, you've got to understand the rationale here.
	So people saying that Putin is this imperialist, this new Hitler, some shit like that.
	They're just lying.
	They're just trying to demonize the situation.
	And...
	Erase the legitimate reasons for this conflict.
	And the bottom line reason, and I have to emphasize this, it's not that the Ukraine people wanted this war or that the Russian people wanted this war.
	It's that Washington, the Americans, NATO, they want the war because they want to make money off of Russia.
	And they thought that they would win and it would be easy for them to do it.
	and everything has blown up in their face.
	The sanctions failed catastrophically because it didn't hurt the Russian economy at all, but it's boomeranged on the Europeans and the European economy is completely shattered.
	The American economy is not doing much better.
	The inflation, it is because of the sanctions, because the higher price of energy that the United States is having to pay And that higher energy prices translates to food production, to everything.
	Because in the United States, you need trucks to ship everything.
	Trucks use gas.
	You can touch on a couple of things I want to discuss.
	And real quick, before I transition over to, because I want to talk about Putin, and I definitely want to talk about Europe and energy and how this is having a negative effect on them and how the sanctions have kind of backfired, because this is very important.
	But real quick, I'll summarize real fast for the people that are just joining.
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	These are my cigarettes, you know?
	You see that?
	They're the same, bro.
	No, it's the logo.
	It's the tax stamp.
	It's the Ukraine shield.
	I'm curious, Gonzalo.
	Oh, that's how they know.
	Okay, because they're trying to say that he's not in Ukraine.
	They're trying to say he's not in Ukraine.
	There you go.
	There's your proof right there.
	What got you into smoking cigarettes, man?
	It's stressful.
	Stupidity.
	Stupidity.
	You know?
	Because I'm a fucking idiot.
	Because I used to smoke when I was a teenager.
	I was a bad boy.
	And I started smoking when I was like 15.
	And I quit when I was 30.
	Because I started smoking cigars.
	And you don't inhale a cigar, right?
	And around 30, I started smoking cigars, and I just drifted out of cigarette smoking.
	And then I quit cigars too, but not a big deal.
	I just stopped smoking.
	And so I was all good and healthy since I was 31, 32, until now.
	I'm 54 now.
	And for 25 years, I was very good.
	But all of a sudden, when this war started, I started needing a fix, man.
	I started, like, sucking on a cigarette without lighting it for a while.
	And I thought to myself, man, I got, like, some oral fixation shit.
	You know, like, Freud should have my head examined or some shit.
	But it was just the nicotine, man.
	I need the nicotine at this point.
	And so I'm up to two packs a day, man.
	This is bad, you know?
	My lungs are black.
	But, you know, the cancer will come later, man.
	The bombs might come now.
	So...
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And I'm just going to summarize real quick some of the things we've discussed for the people before we transition over to Europe, the sanctions, how it's backfired, etc.
	So Russia originally invaded Ukraine thinking that this is going to be something that they can quickly kind of, you know, get under control, come in, take the country over intact, going with a light army, going smooth.
	But they were hoping, right, and we had predicted before in our last podcast that they would have this thing done by the summertime.
	However, But NATO kind of intervened and said, no, Zelensky, you will continue this war with the Russians, which kind of prolonged this.
	So now what Russia had to do was kind of double down on their military strategy, reassess, okay, we need more rounds, we need more soldiers, etc.
	So...
	That ended up extending the conflict.
	Zelensky is basically out of, you know, I think he was in England the other day, which we'll talk about that as well, or he was there yesterday.
	And it's extended the conflict.
	And at this point, Russia's taking approximately 20% of Ukraine.
	There's a battle of Black Moon that's going on right now.
	That's a very influential battle.
	You predict that that will be done probably sometime soon because they're encircling it, waiting for them to either surrender or get blown up, trying to use the roadways or restock.
	And, I mean, did I miss anything there just before we transition over?
	No, it's pretty much accurate.
	It's pretty much where we're at now.
	And, like, finally, the important thing is that the Russians have 700,000 troops surrounding Ukraine.
	They have a big contingent in the north, in Belarus, just to the north of the Ukraine border.
	They have another big contingent just to the east, here in Kharkov region, on the Russian side of the border.
	And they have another big contingent in the south, in the territories that they currently occupy.
	So yeah, that's the big thing that's coming because those 700,000 men, as I said before, you don't put that force together just for shits and giggles.
	You're going to do something with them.
	And everybody is sort of like waiting and wondering what the fuck are the Russians going to do?
	Because like I said before, their operational security is They do not let anything leak out.
	Anybody who claims to know the inside information about Russia is lining their asses off.
	They're just making it up.
	Because nobody knows.
	They are tight-lipped as God, I don't know what.
	So, real quick, let's look at the man himself, Vladimir Putin.
	Obviously, he's a very controversial figure.
	Some people absolutely despise him and say he's committing war crimes and needs to be tried.
	Some other people are saying he's doing what's best for Russia and his actions are justified.
	Can we talk a little bit about We talked about the history between Ukraine and Russia.
	Can we talk about the geopolitical implications as to why he decided to conduct this, in his words, special military operation and a little bit behind the man himself?
	Sure.
	Putin was a KGB officer, but he wasn't like a big spy.
	He was a lawyer.
	I mean, he is a lawyer.
	He got his degree as a lawyer.
	And he worked in East Germany during the Soviet Union.
	He speaks fluent German and fluent English.
	And after the collapse of the Soviet Union, he continued as a KGB officer, but he was really...
	He actually had to work as a taxi driver for a while because he couldn't afford to feed his family on his KGB salary.
	That's how bad things were in Russia during the 90s.
	And he eventually was put into power by a combination of different people, different factions within Russia.
	And he was named the president of Russia after Yeltsin.
	At first, the West loved him because they thought he was our guy.
	They thought he's a KGB guy and he's going to allow us to continue to exploit Russia as the West had been doing during the 90s.
	That's why Russia was so poor during the 90s because the West was exploiting it the same way the West has exploited Ukraine.
	And what happened was that Putin came into power and he laid down the law with the oligarchs in Russia, which is a key move, by the way.
	He basically told the oligarchs, look, you can make your money, we'll leave you alone, but you don't fuck with politics.
	Russian politics is not your domain.
	You stay out of it.
	And the oligarchs who didn't agree, they basically got booted out of the country.
	And the oligarchs who did agree, well, they kept their mouths shut and they kept on making their money.
	And what happened was that Putin implemented a series of measures that in and of themselves, none of them were particularly noteworthy, but they all were to grind down the oligarchs.
	And the proof of this is that the oligarchs who were in power back when Putin assumed control were like a dozen or so.
	And now they are many more oligarchs, like just basically very rich people, and they are completely different.
	He basically eliminated the oligarchs.
	And the oligarchs in Russia today don't have any power, any real power, none whatsoever.
	Okay?
	Yeah.
	They fled Europe in the United States.
	Yeah, the ones who were anti-Putin and pro-Western, yeah, they split.
	Abramovich, for instance, he's a famous one.
	The guy who owned Chelsea Football Club.
	Yeah.
	All those guys split and moved all their money out.
	And what happened was that Putin basically...
	You have to understand there's a very good documentary that Oliver Stone made.
	He's made two good documentaries.
	One about Ukraine, which is Ukraine on fire.
	It's really good.
	I recommend you watch it.
	And the other is Putin on Putin, I believe is the name of it, by Oliver Stone.
	And Oliver Stone got a series of interviews over several years with Vladimir Putin.
	And what emerges is that Vladimir Putin is a guy who is a Russian nationalist.
	He cares about his people, the Russian people.
	He doesn't give a shit about the rest.
	I mean, he's all in favor of free trade if it benefits the Russian people, but he's not interested in conquering other peoples, other nationalities, and he's not interested in expanding Russian territory either.
	He just wants the welfare of the Russian people.
	And he's been very successful at this.
	But what happened was that in 2007, he gave a very, very famous speech in Munich.
	There was this summit in Munich of the Western leaders and included Russia.
	Putin, in that speech, and you should see a video of it, it's very thoughtful and very intelligent speech.
	He basically says that the future is multipolar.
	There cannot be one pole, one unipolar world, where the United States is the global hegemon.
	Because the other countries around the world, China, India, they are industrializing, they are growing, they're becoming great powers themselves.
	And so it's inevitable that there will be this multipolar world.
	And this, of course, made the Americans furious.
	If you watch the speech, at one point, John McCain, the senator, was in the audience listening to this speech, and you can see the daggers coming out of his eyes.
	I mean, he's just hating everything that Putin is saying, because he's basically saying that The American moment of being the global hegemon is winding down, and the Americans are just going to have to take it.
	And the Americans didn't want to take it.
	So anyway, about Putin.
	Putin is a moderate.
	This is something that people don't understand in the West, which is really, really funny.
	He is a moderate.
	Like I said, he lived in Germany, in East Germany.
	He speaks fluent English and fluent German.
	He understands Western culture very, very well.
	He's very sophisticated.
	And he is a moderate.
	He's always wanted good relations with the West and the benefit of the Russian people.
	Okay?
	There are other people in the Kremlin who are much more hardcore, who are...
	I mean, the thought that somebody is going to get rid of Putin, right?
	If they got rid of Putin, which is not going to happen, by the way, because everybody supports Putin in Russia.
	He's got like 80% approval rating.
	Everybody is like, yeah, Putin is our guy.
	He knows what he's doing.
	But even if somehow magically he were removed, The guy who would replace him would be hardcore.
	I mean, that fucker, whoever he is, Mr.
	X, because all of them, they would go to town in the West.
	They'd cut off all trade.
	They'd fuck over the West much worse than what's happened so far with the stupid sanctions, okay?
	That's something that people in the West don't understand.
	Hitler.
	No, he's not.
	He's a moderate, okay?
	The other guys, he is basically holding back a lot of the other guys, like Medvedev, right?
	The former president of Russia, who's like a big deal right now.
	He's in charge of all the weapons and such.
	And he's a close ally of Putin, right?
	Medvedev is much more hardcore.
	And you see it on his Telegram channel.
	He's basically fucked the West.
	We should just...
	Just really wreck the Western economies and just fuck those people over.
	I mean, that's the kind of people we're talking about because everybody in Russia now, because of the sanctions that were implemented, because of the rampant Russophobia and just outright hatred of everything Russia...
	Russian, rather, in the West.
	I mean, they've even gone so far as to outlaw Dostoevsky's books and Tchaikovsky and Prokofiev, and they've even sanctioned tennis players and shit, right?
	I mean, everybody in Russia despises the West at this point.
	Okay, so you gotta understand, Putin is the moderate here, okay?
	And all he wants is the well-being of his people.
	I'm not saying that the guy is squeaky clean like some angel.
	I mean, I'm sure that this guy has done all kinds of nasty shit.
	Russia has his problems as well.
	They're not perfect.
	Yeah, he's worried about his own problems, okay?
	Let me ask you this, Coach.
	Yeah.
	Real fast.
	What are the top three reasons Putin had to invade Ukraine?
	I don't think enough people talk about this as to why he did what he did.
	Instead, they kind of demonize him for what he did versus his reasoning and rationale for doing so.
	Because like you said before, which is very true, Putin cares about the Russian people first.
	He doesn't give a shit about anybody else.
	He doesn't care about geopolitical relations.
	He's very careful about his diplomacy, and his diplomacy has been exceptional.
	But your question is exceptionally good.
	And so the top three reasons that Putin did this, that invaded Ukraine.
	Number one, he wanted to prevent NATO encroachment on Russia's borders.
	Like I said before, imagine if the Chinese had a military alliance and they put nuclear missiles in Mexico on the border with the United States.
	The Americans would freak out and they'd invade Mexico, right?
	To prevent that from happening, right?
	Same thing.
	Putin does not want NATO on its borders, okay?
	It'll allow the Baltics to be part of NATO because the Baltics are trivial.
	Okay?
	And because of geographic realities, the Baltics can never have a large NATO army.
	It's just not possible, let alone the population of the Baltics is minimal.
	Okay?
	And so that he was fine with.
	But Ukraine?
	No, that's a different story altogether.
	A different kettle of fish.
	And having potentially nuclear weapons on Russia's border, that was never going to happen.
	Remember, the Cuban Missile Crisis happened because the Soviet Union was going to put nuclear missiles in Cuba, right on America's doorstep.
	That's why that crisis happened.
	The Soviet Union and the United States almost went to war in 1962 because of that.
	So you've got to understand they're Russian.
	The number one reason?
	No NATO in Ukraine.
	No NATO troops and no NATO missiles in Ukraine, number one.
	Number two, to end the systematic annihilation of the ethnic Russian people in the Donbass region.
	Because it was just getting too much.
	It was just getting too fucking much.
	And right before the war, they started shelling them even harder.
	And look, even now, they're still shelling the city of Donetsk.
	The Zelensky regime is sending missiles, HIMARS missiles, right into the middle of the city of Donetsk.
	And it's not me telling you this.
	There are people on the ground, foreign reporters.
	Who are there who have said so.
	They've said how they're in some hotel and their hotel gets hit by a HIMARS missile.
	There is no military reason to hit that city because there are no soldiers there.
	There's no military gear there.
	It's just terrorism against the people of the Donbass using American-made weapons.
	So the second reason that Putin invaded was to protect the ethnic Russians in the Donbass region and in the south and east of Ukraine.
	Okay.
	And the third reason is, well, those are really the two biggest reasons.
	And of course, to denazify the Kiev regime, because it is a Nazi regime.
	It is a neo-nationalist, neo-fascist regime.
	Can you talk about these neo-Nazis in Ukraine?
	Because this is something that also never gets reported in the mainstream media either.
	Yeah, because you see, in 2014, the United States, by way of NGOs, staged a color revolution, quote unquote.
	And that's basically a coup d'etat.
	And see, these color revolutions, they all have the same shape.
	What the United States does is that they have some country that has a government that is not totally friendly to the United States, not totally docile to the United States.
	And so they want to change the regime.
	And so who do they support?
	Do they support moderate opposition?
	No, because the moderate opposition wants to change things from within.
	So what do the Americans do?
	They support the most extreme people.
	The crazies.
	The real fucking crazies.
	And they give them money and they give them weapons.
	The money for the people to get more adherence.
	The weapons so as to cause havoc in the country.
	And all these color revolutions are the same.
	The Americans support the most extreme factions.
	Because those most extreme factions don't want to work with the established government.
	They want to overthrow it.
	See?
	Because when they talk about regime change, this is what we're talking about.
	Supporting the most extreme faction in a country so as to overthrow the legitimate government and install a pro-Western regime, a regime of extremists, you see?
	Because these extremists, since they're being funded by the West, the hope is, the expectation is that they're going to be loyal to the West after they take over.
	And so that's why in 2014, they started supporting the most, I mean, fascist.
	I mean, like, look, I am a hardcore right wing guy.
	Okay, I make no bones about it.
	I'm anti abortion, anti trans, anti all this bullshit, you know, I'm against the welfare state and all that.
	But these people are fucking crazy.
	They're not right-wing.
	They are neo-fascist fucktards, man.
	They are off the fucking charts.
	I mean, now that we're on Rumble, I can say whatever the fuck I want.
	Yeah, you can say whatever you want.
	Go ahead.
	These people are crazy, crazy, crazy.
	And they are neo-Nazis.
	They get this shit tattooed all over themselves.
	You know how the Russians process their prisoners of war?
	They make them strip their shirts off to check their tattoos.
	And all the guys who've got Nazi tattoos, they go into one truck.
	The other guys who don't have any tattoos, they go to a nice POW camp.
	But the ones with the tattoos, oh God knows what happens to them.
	Because the Russians, like I said, you know, I don't want to sound like I'm painting a rosy picture of the Russians because they're fucking nasty motherfuckers.
	They are hardcore, you know?
	Of course.
	I mean, like our crowd always says, based?
	Fuck yeah.
	They don't fuck around.
	Hello?
	Am I still there?
	We got you.
	You gotta understand.
	And people say, oh, how could it be possible?
	Zelensky is Jewish.
	Why would he be supported by neo-Nazis?
	Dude, you know, you have tactical alliances all the time.
	You know, lots of times, you know, you find yourself working alongside some guy that you find a complete dickhead asshole for whatever reason, but he's doing the same thing that you're trying to achieve, so yeah, you'll work with him.
	And these neo-Nazis have no problem working with some Jewish guy in order to advance their position.
	But, you know, once it's over, that's a different story.
	But, you know, for the time being, sure, you know, no problem.
	Have a Jewish president?
	Fine.
	If we're gonna get to kill Russians?
	Yay.
	You see the conundrum?
	Yeah, I can see.
	What's Israel's involvement, if any, in this conflict?
	Oh, the Israelis have a whole boatload of problems.
	Here we go.
	Welcome to Rumble, guys!
	Because the Israelis are caught between a rock and a hard place.
	Because there is a huge number of ethnic Russian, Jewish Russians in Israel.
	And they have ties with Russia and Ukraine.
	And so on the one hand, they have these strong ties and they want this conflict to end.
	And if the push came to shove, they would want to side with the Russians.
	But on the other hand, the money spigot from the Americans, right?
	That plays a big role in this.
	And so the Israelis are trying to be on the good side of both sides.
	They don't want to antagonize either the Russians or the Americans.
	And so that's their situation.
	And so far, they played it pretty smart.
	You're not hearing about them because they're threading that needle very carefully.
	They're trying to be on both sides, not antagonize either side, and try to be conciliatory and let's all kumbaya and sing some songs around the campfire kind of thing.
	Because they can't afford to piss off the Russians and they can't afford to piss off the Americans.
	And so insofar as this conflict is concerned, they're null and void.
	They don't really matter in this conflict.
	Gotcha.
	Let me ask you this.
	So we talked about, you know, Russia had sanctions levied against them with the Crimea takeover of 2014 under the Obama administration.
	And that did hurt Russia's economy.
	significantly and you know they prepared themselves and knew that this you know invading Ukraine in 2022 would lead to further sanctions and they've kind of you know insulated themselves against being I guess negatively influenced by sanctions can you talk about how these sanctions have backfired and also how it's caused some issues for Western Europe when it comes to energy the overview that you gave is run on the money because
	Because in 2014, when the Russians took over Crimea, because most of the population of Crimea is ethnic Russian and wanted to be part of the Russian Federation, well, the West imposed all kinds of sanctions.
	And the sanctions have been going on since before, since 2012 and the Magnitsky sanctions.
	But what happened was that in 2014, it really hurt the Russian economy.
	And so the Russians, they went ahead and created, they sanctioned proof their country.
	And what did they do specifically?
	They created an alternative payment system separate to SWIFT. SWIFT is a messaging system between banks.
	It's not a payment system.
	It's a messaging system.
	You're one bank, I'm another bank.
	You've got some customer in your country.
	Say that you're in Brazil and I'm in Thailand.
	Your customer has to send money to Thailand, my country.
	You'll send me a message via SWIFT. To, you know, for say a million dollars to go to some, to release a million dollars.
	That's the messaging system.
	No money gets transferred.
	My bank has money and your bank receives money.
	And then later we'll get squared away.
	But the messaging system to transfer the monies, okay?
	Now you think that this isn't a big deal.
	It's a huge deal because of trade, okay?
	Because this is how people in different countries are able to trade with one another.
	And this global system is run by the Americans.
	This is one of the big reasons that the United States has such control over the rest of the world's economy, because this system, since it's controlled by the Americans, if the Americans decide to cut you off the system, you're all of a sudden cut off from any kind of trade, global trade.
	So you want to stay on the right side of the Americans and not get cut off from SWIFT, right?
	And so the Russians were not cut off from SWIFT in 2014, but they realized that this was in the cards, and so they created their own messaging system.
	They created their own credit card system, the MIR card.
	M-I-R, which was a counterbalance to Visa and MasterCard.
	Because, again, Visa and MasterCard are essential for consumers because people use Visa and MasterCard.
	And if a whole country's people are cut off from Visa and MasterCard, all of a sudden they can't make payments.
	Or they can, but it's much longer and more tedious and more complicated because then people have to actually go to their bank, get cash, and then go and pay for shit as opposed to just zip, zip, The Russians did this in parallel from 2014 to 2022.
	And so what happened was that when the sanctions were imposed, they went to 11.
	They hit it with everything, right?
	And so for the first month or so, it really affected the Russian economy.
	But it was more panic, more surprise and shock.
	Because what happened was that the exchange rate of ruble shot up to like 140 rubles to the dollar.
	And then it slowly came back down because people all of a sudden realized, hey, the Russian economy is not in bad shape.
	It's actually in pretty good shape.
	Same happened with the stock market, the Russian stock market.
	It fell down, rather, it crashed, and then it recovered.
	Because fundamentally, the Russian economy is in very good shape, and more important than not, they have a positive balance of payments.
	That is, they export more than they import.
	And also, their government doesn't run huge deficits like the Americans, right?
	They bring in more tax revenue on a long scale, by the way, than they spent.
	On any specific month, like last month, for instance, the Russians announced that they have a $25 billion deficit.
	But that doesn't mean shit, because it was just for the month of January.
	And if you look at the books, you realize that they front-loaded their expenses.
	And so, yeah, they have all that deficit for the month of January.
	But then spread out over the year, they didn't have a deficit.
	Russia didn't have a lot of gold.
	Russia has an enormous amount of gold.
	And they mine the shit because they've got the biggest gold mines in the world, practically, aside from South Africa.
	And so they're in good shape, economically.
	So the sanctions, at first, was a big shock.
	But then people started waking up, things aren't going so badly.
	And also, the Russians started exporting all their energy resources, their natural gas and their oil, to India, especially, and also China and Pakistan.
	So what happened was that, you know, the amount of oil that they are shipping now to India is, I think it's, last I heard it was something like 12 times more than they were exporting at the beginning of the conflict.
	It's exploded, okay?
	And what has happened is that the Europeans have deprived themselves of these energy resources from the Russians, and the Russians have just simply turned around and sold their oil to other people.
	The Indians, the Chinese, and by the way, these are huge amounts of oil we're talking about, 1.2 million barrels of oil a day.
	It's not that it went from 1 barrel a day to 12.
	No, it went from, if I recall correctly, 87,000 barrels of oil per day to over 1.2 million today in less than a year.
	It's huge, and that's India.
	And so what's happened is that the Europeans got fucked.
	And also something else funny.
	The Russians are deliberately exporting oil to India because you know what the Indians are doing?
	What?
	Some of their traders are buying Russian oil, marking it up, and selling it to the Europeans.
	L for Western Europe, man.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And what are the Europeans going to do?
	They need the fucking oil, so they're fucked, right?
	And the Russians are doing this deliberately, and they're not stupid.
	They know that the Indians are doing it.
	Because, in fact, it's not that the Russians know that they're doing it.
	They are encouraging it to fuck over the Europeans, okay?
	So, you know, I mean, in the end, this is blowing up in Europe's face especially, because you've got to understand that Europe's prosperity over the last 30, 40 years...
	And we're talking about Western Europe here, right?
	To be specific for the audience out there that are wondering, like, what do you mean with Europe?
	He's talking about Spain, Italy, you know, traditionally known as Western Europe, right?
	These countries, Poland, their prosperity, their ability to have a big welfare state where everybody gets money, even if they're unemployed and shit.
	Well, see, it depends on three factors.
	Number one, that the Europeans don't have to spend almost any money on their national defense because they're under the American security umbrella.
	Number two, cheap consumer goods from China.
	Cheap consumer goods and cheap industrial devices necessary for various industries that the Europeans no longer have to manufacture themselves at a higher cost.
	They can simply import them from China and use them in their own factories for higher value goods.
	And the third was cheap Russian energy.
	So you have this troika, American spending on defense that the Europeans don't have to do, which remember when Trump was saying that the NATO countries have to shoulder their fair share of the security burden?
	That's what he was talking about.
	I never thought about that, Gonzalo.
	That's a fantastic point because I've always thought to myself, you know, how are these Western countries able to have damn near socialist type societies with free healthcare and all this other stuff?
	But I never thought and connected the dots that they don't spend on military like that because they're under the NATO alliance and the United States has the biggest military and they're willing to assist and help.
	So that frees up a lot of taxpayer dollars, right?
	Especially when they're taxing each other at 50%.
	Go ahead and do all this other dumb stuff.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Good point.
	And so, this troika of American defense, cheap goods from China, and cheap energy from Russia, well, that's what held up their social welfare programs, their socialist state.
	Now, they knocked out the Russian energy.
	Now they're paying energy through the roof.
	Their bills are outrageous.
	You see all kinds of videos on TikTok and Twitter.
	I'll tell you shortly, Gonzalo.
	There's a girl that I was seeing.
	She was from Spain, and she was in the United States.
	And quite literally, she said, I don't want to go back to Spain because my power bill now has quadrupled.
	She was paying something like 100 euros before, and it's up to like 400 or 500 euros now.
	And she was like, yeah, I'm not going back because the electric bill in itself was too much.
	And this was in the summertime.
	Yeah.
	So this is just Spain.
	I can't imagine the other places.
	And another thing, too, that a lot of people don't know is that there's a bunch of countries where people are protesting the increase in power and the food shortages.
	Yeah.
	Sorry, I'll turn it back to you.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	Everything you're saying is true, and it's because of the sanctions.
	Because they knocked out one of these three legs holding up the chair.
	See?
	And now the Europeans, fucking morons, they're following the Americans off a cliff as far as China is concerned.
	And they are starting to say that they have to put sanctions on China because of human rights abuses and shit like that.
	All kinds of bullshit, right?
	And so they're going to knock out that second leg of their social welfare state.
	You know, they're fucked.
	They're fucked, okay?
	And by the way, have you noticed that all those protests, you see all the videos of all these huge protests going on in Europe?
	Yeah.
	But none of the mainstream media carries it.
	Yeah.
	In Europe, if you go by the mainstream media in Europe, you have no idea about these protests.
	None whatsoever.
	And they're fucking huge.
	I mean, like half a million people were protesting in Paris the other day.
	You know, I mean, they are enormous and they are not being reported on by the mainstream media because, like I said before, they're paid for by the government.
	And the government says, we don't want you to show that to the people.
	I mean, Rumble isn't even allowed in France because of certain content creators that are on Rumble that France doesn't want people to see.
	Yeah, also Brazil.
	You know, also Brazil.
	So, I mean, there's definitely like a bottleneck in information being put out to certain places where the government doesn't necessarily want you to see it because they don't want you to see the people protesting with the high energy costs and everything else.
	And And here's the other thing, too, that I kind of noticed from having this conversation talking about this.
	See, the United States doesn't have to deal with this because, number one, the United States manufactures a lot of its own food.
	And then on top of that, the United States also manufactures a decent amount of their own energy, and we have our own military.
	So we're fairly independent of other places.
	Yes, of course, we're still slaves to China to a degree, right?
	But not to the same level as Western Europe.
	So I get what you're saying now when you're saying Western Europe is following America off the cliff.
	But Europe doesn't necessarily have the same, I guess, infrastructure that we enjoy over here in the United States.
	Yeah, they don't have the resources.
	They don't have the land for their agriculture.
	And on top of that, they're pursuing these green agenda goals, Agenda 2030 and bullshit like that, which is harming their farmers.
	Because, look, the Netherlands is the second largest exporter of food in the world.
	It produces an enormous amount of food.
	But the Dutch government is putting in these new green measures that are hurting the farmers.
	These people, they're fucking morons.
	They're destroying their own continent.
	I have no sympathy for the Europeans.
	I've lived all over Europe.
	I've lived in Amsterdam, in Paris, in Germany, in London.
	And I have no sympathy for them because they're destroying themselves.
	They're just fuckwits as far as I'm concerned.
	And I also want to say this too as well.
	I don't know if the audience knows this, but if I'm not mistaken, isn't Ukraine like the second or one of the biggest exporters of wheat?
	And that's all predominantly on the eastern side that Russia now controls?
	Yep, exactly right.
	So it's like, I mean, what do you predict is going to happen here, Gonzales?
	I mean, we can see the walls kind of closing in on Western Europe when it comes to power, when it comes to food, and how this has kind of been like a domino effect with them sanctioning Russia, right?
	But the reality is they need Russian energy, and now one of the biggest exporters of wheat, which is used to make a bunch of food, is now controlled by Russia.
	They're fucked.
	If you want to boil it down to just one statement, they're fucked.
	And they only have themselves to blame because the Russians never had any animosity towards the Europeans.
	They were happy to keep on selling them natural gas, oil, food, no problem.
	But the Europeans hitched their wagons to the Americans.
	And they just went off a cliff.
	And they're fucked.
	It's not complicated.
	And now we have the revelation that Nord Stream Pipeline was destroyed by the Americans.
	Let's talk about that.
	Let's hit that.
	That is just...
	Okay, when the Nord Stream pipeline, I forget when it was blown up.
	Was it September?
	Yeah, it was a couple of months ago.
	It was like the last quarter of 2022.
	But real quick, can you tell the people what the Nord Stream pipeline is, and then we can go into what happened?
	Sure.
	The Nord Stream pipeline is a pipeline that goes under the Baltic Sea from Russia, from around St.
	Petersburg.
	It goes under the Baltics, all the way to the Baltic Sea, all the way to Germany.
	Now, there are two Nord Stream pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2.
	And Nord Stream 2 had just been completed.
	And this represented a huge amount of Germany's natural gas.
	I mean, most of it.
	Now, the thing is, see, the Nord Stream pipeline all of a sudden blew up.
	Okay.
	September 22nd?
	Thanks, Fresh.
	Fresh with the...
	Thank you.
	Yeah, September 22nd.
	And so it blew up out of the blue.
	It was like, what the fuck happened, right?
	And at first, people were saying, oh, the Russians did it!
	The Russians did it!
	Which is just stupid, because you see, the Nord Stream pipelines carried gas from Russia to Germany, right?
	If the Russians wanted to stop Nord Stream, see, they have this thing, it's called a valve.
	And you turn it, if you turn it, you know, righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.
	You turn it right, you know, and it's closed.
	Okay?
	And so, if the Russians want hot screen, they didn't blow it up.
	Yeah.
	Okay?
	Except, you know, some...
	You guys still there?
	Okay.
	Can you repeat that last sentence?
	Hello?
	We heard some of it.
	That last sentence with the turning lefty, loosey, righty, tighty.
	Yeah, if they wanted to, if the Russians wanted to cut gas from Russia to the Europeans, all they have to do is just turn the fucking valve.
	They didn't need to destroy the thing.
	So it was obvious to everybody who was observing the situation that it wasn't the Russians who blew it up.
	To whose benefit was, am I still here?
	We got you.
	We got you.
	Okay.
	To whose benefit?
	I mean, qui bono?
	There's a saying in Latin, qui bono?
	Who benefits?
	Okay.
	And the issue becomes the only people who benefited from the destruction of Nord Stream were the Americans and the Norwegians.
	Because Norway exports a lot of natural gas.
	They have huge gas fields and oil fields too.
	But anyway, the Americans especially.
	Because it would accomplish several tasks.
	Number one, it would cut the possibility of any kind of deal between Germany and Russia.
	Am I still on?
	You got you.
	We got you.
	By destroying the pipeline, it would make sure that the Germans could not have some sort of deal with the Russians.
	It's like a separate piece, okay?
	Because it would make the Germans dependent on American natural gas, liquefied natural gas, you see?
	And so, immediately, I thought, you know, the Americans did it.
	And everybody's sensible thought the Americans did it, right?
	Yeah.
	And the Americans were like, no, no, we had nothing to do with it.
	Seymour Hersh, who is an investigative journalist, he's old school.
	This guy's been around since forever.
	His first big story was in 1969.
	He revealed the Maile massacre.
	And he's gone on to one big story after the next.
	He revealed the clandestine bombing of Cambodia in 74, I think, or 73.
	He revealed the Abu Ghraib atrocities that were going on in Iraq.
	You know, those pictures of those Iraqi prisoners being mistreated and so forth.
	I mean, he is very plugged in, a very old school investigative journalist.
	And he wrote this huge piece that goes into the nitty gritty detail Of the Nord Stream bombing.
	And basically, the Americans came up with this plan.
	Joe Biden came up with this plan, actually, to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline.
	He gave the order in September of 2021, before the conflict started.
	Okay, so even then, they were planning on cutting off the pipeline, because the Americans do not ever want to have a strong German-Russian relationship, because they believe that if Germany pivots towards Russia and has a strong relationship with Russia, Then the rest of Europe will follow towards the Russians, away from the Americans.
	Gotcha.
	And so that's what the Americans wanted to avoid at all costs.
	And so they destroyed the pipeline.
	And the article by Seymour Hersh goes into the details of it.
	You know, the point man was Jake Sullivan, National Security Advisor.
	They talk about the specific men who were used to put the bombs there.
	They were all retired or former Navy SEALs and divers so that they didn't have to account to Congress because of this clandestine affair.
	Because if they had been working in regular service, the administration would have to tell Congress that they were doing this.
	But by hiring former Navy SEALs and Navy divers, they didn't have to report anything, see?
	Because it was contracted out, not an American government doing it, see?
	Exactly.
	And it was the Norwegians who actually pulled the trigger, according to Seymour Hersh.
	And by the way, if Seymour Hersh says something, you know it's true.
	Because the guy is incredibly plugged in.
	And he's an old man at this point.
	He's 85.
	So he has no interest in saying something that he doesn't have ice cold.
	I mean, if he says something, it's on the money, okay?
	Because he's at an age where he has a reputation.
	And he's not going to say something unless he's got it absolutely cold, okay?
	And besides that, over the decades that he's been around, nobody has ever been able to say, oh, he lied about this or that fact.
	No, all of his facts turned out to be exactly accurate.
	So anyway, he reported that the Norwegians were the ones who actually pulled the trigger on orders from Washington.
	And yeah, that's what happened.
	That is basically a declaration of war against Germany.
	Because it was the Germans who needed that gas.
	And the Americans, the trigger man was the Norwegians, but it was the Americans who did this.
	This is a declaration of war.
	And the Germans, man, I talked to a German friend of mine last night, as a matter of fact.
	They have no idea about these revelations.
	The mainstream media in Germany is not reporting this at all.
	She had to actually start looking online as I was talking to her, and she found a little story in some very obscure German news outlet.
	And on top of the story, she said, oh, but he's just a blogger.
	Because that's what they're saying about Seymour Hersh, that he's just a blogger, because he put this article up on Substack.
	He's not a blogger.
	He won the Pulitzer fucking prize for his investigative journalists.
	He's like the real deal, okay?
	I know he might be on Substack, but the guy is like for real, okay?
	So if you just look at, like, let's say you don't trust him and you don't believe what he's saying.
	I mean, just look at it from an objective standpoint.
	The United States has a lot to gain from, you know, destroying it.
	So it would make sense.
	That, okay, this is possible because we have a lot to gain.
	We make a lot of money.
	It keeps Germany from relying on Russia, relying on us more.
	And then, yes, you're right.
	Germany is in a kind of strong, pivotal position where if they were to go ahead and align with Russia, it would cause us problems for the United States.
	And, you know, a lot of the times nowadays, right, ever since World War II, We're good to go.
	Ever since after World War II, it's been more of a clandestine-type operation to gain power between the world powers.
	I mean, every other week, you see an intelligence officer or agent being arrested in the United States by the FBI, and then vice versa, where an intelligence officer...
	From the United States getting arrested in Russia, etc., which is why the whole Brittany Griner trade, which was ridiculous.
	Matter of fact, you know, we might as well get your take on that.
	What was your thoughts on the Brittany Griner trade for the Lord of War?
	Or the Merchant of Death?
	Well, you know, from the Russian point of view, it was just, oh man, the trade of a lifetime, you know, they're happy as a clam.
	Because this fucking dumb basketball player, right?
	She brought in drugs to Russia, okay?
	I mean, of course she's going to get picked up, you know?
	I mean, she had it coming.
	She's a fucking idiot, right?
	And like, you know, claiming that, oh, it was medicinal or some shit like that.
	Fuck off, you know?
	The Russians are very clear about that kind of stuff, you know?
	And you got to respect some country when they have rules, you stick by them.
	You don't fuck around, right?
	Yep.
	And so, you know, no sympathy for this dumb bitch, right?
	Zero.
	She was just a fucking idiot.
	And this arms dealer, this Lord of War guy, right?
	There's a lot of interesting shit going on about that guy.
	Because the word is that he actually wasn't a weapons dealer.
	That he was actually an FSB agent.
	FSB is the Russian equivalent now of the KGD. The equivalent of the CIA. Basically, this guy, the story is, and this is unconfirmed.
	I always try to tell you, this is the real deal, the Seymour Hersh thing about the North Stream pipeline mommy, and this shit.
	It's unclear, it's fuzzy.
	Apparently this guy was actually FSB and that he had been set up by the FSB to be this international arms trader so that he could find out who the actual traders were in this underworld.
	The Russians wanted him back very badly because he was one of their guys and their loyalty.
	He had done his duty.
	He was an FSB officer.
	That's the word.
	He had been heavily involved in the international arms trade, not to make money for himself specifically, but rather to find out who the players were and get access to them and potentially be able to fuck them over if need be.
	He was an undercover operative, basically.
	That's the word.
	The fact that the Russians were so hell-bent on getting this guy for years, ever since he was arrested, He was arrested in Thailand, I believe, and extradited to the United States.
	Yeah.
	The Russians wanted him badly because he was one of their guys.
	Okay?
	I mean, like, you know, the Marines say no one left behind kind of thing.
	Yeah.
	Except for this guy.
	Because he'd been like a loyal trooper.
	He kept his fucking mouth shut during the eight years he was in prison in the United States.
	You know?
	And so, you know, loyalty like that, you've got to reward it.
	You've got to look after your guys.
	So trading some basketball player for this guy that they really wanted.
	Yeah.
	And the other thing is that the Russians have this American Marine Who apparently actually was a spy.
	Yeah.
	Now, I don't know the ins and outs.
	Maybe he was just wrong place, wrong time kind of thing on circumstantial evidence and it's not really him.
	Who knows?
	But the point is that this guy was a Marine.
	He's been there for a while, okay?
	And this dumb basketball player, eventually the Russians would have cut her loose because she's just a dumb, you know, hippie chick, you know, with pot.
	Big fucking deal.
	They would have gotten, you know, I mean, tossed her overboard eventually.
	But the Biden administration prioritized her over the white Marine.
	Oh, man.
	For the black vote, which is very stupid.
	But that's what they want to do.
	The SJW agenda is, hey, let's appeal to the minorities, the LGBT community, leftists, etc.
	And actually, I want to transition real quick to that.
	You've been very...
	She was black.
	She's a woman and a lesbian.
	Exactly.
	She takes all the boxes for the Biden administration.
	So I want to ask you this, Gonzalo, right?
	Switching over from the war real fast.
	You've been very critical of, you know, transgenders, gays, you know, feminism, these far left I mean, what are your general thoughts on these...
	These leftists, so to speak, that agree in these ideologies.
	About the trans issue, let's tackle that one head on first.
	Sure.
	Take your time.
	See, Myron, you know, like I'm a doctor.
	And you, Myron, you're anorexic.
	Uh-huh.
	Yep.
	Anorexia is like a mental disease, right?
	Yes.
	I mean, you know, Myron, I see you on camera and you look like a very fit guy, very healthy weight, right?
	Yeah.
	No, no, no, Dr.
	Lyra, you know, I'm, like, way too fat.
	And, you know, lose all this weight because I'm so fat.
	And you start becoming like a skeleton.
	And as your doctor, what do I say to you?
	Do I say to you, oh, yeah, yeah, you're way too fat.
	You should keep on losing weight and just indulging your anorexia.
	Do I say that as a responsible doctor?
	No.
	I say...
	Myron, you're a great guy, but you are suffering a mental health problem.
	A serious one.
	You think you have body dysmorphia.
	You think that you are a lot fatter than you actually are.
	And we have to get you into treatments like psychological treatment, perhaps some medication, so that you understand that, no, you are perfectly fine and healthy as you are.
	And this, you know, refusing to eat for a week straight, it's going to wind up killing you.
	Okay?
	Exactly.
	That's what a responsible doctor would do to Myra the anorexic.
	I mean, of course, this is hypothetical, right?
	It's hypothetical, that's in chat.
	Just in case, yeah.
	But yeah, I mean, like, if some girl, I'm a doctor, and some girl, some teenage girl, you know, who's weighing, you know, 80, 75 pounds, and she tells me, I'm too fat, I need to lose weight, I'd put her on medication and treatment, right?
	Of course.
	Because she's got a mental problem, poor thing, okay?
	That's my thinking on the transgender thing.
	We are indulging the insanity of people who don't have this malady, who are not in the wrong body.
	And there's something else, too.
	I mean, as a man, as a guy.
	See, you fellas, you know, you're guys, too, right?
	And you remember when you hit puberty, right?
	And all of a sudden, hair is growing out of your armpits.
	And your voice gets deep and you feel awkward as fuck because all of a sudden you're a lot taller than you were five minutes ago.
	You're like, what the fuck is happening to my body?
	You enjoy it because all of a sudden you're a lot taller so you can make your hoops and whatnot.
	And for guys it's relatively a seamless transition from being a boy into being a man or at least having the body of a man.
	But for women it's traumatic.
	You know, not traumatic in a big like PTSD kind of way, but it's a big shock because all of a sudden they're a girl running around playing games as girls do of 9, 10, 11, 12 years old.
	They hit puberty and all of a sudden their hips start getting wider.
	Their boobs pop out, which is a shock to them.
	Like, what the fuck is going on there, right?
	And they start menstruating, of course, which is just shocking to them because before they just, you know, went and peed and no big deal.
	And all of a sudden, all this stuff is coming out of them.
	It's a shock.
	So many women, so many girls rather, go through a very awkward phase as their body transitions from being a child into being a woman.
	And many girls are very miserable about it.
	And a lot of girls go through a phase of using only baggy clothes because they find their body kind of repulsive in these changes that are occurring to them.
	And this is a natural stage in the development of any woman, of any female.
	And it's perfectly normal, but a lot of girls...
	Are brainwashed into thinking, oh, you're so uncomfortable in your body.
	Oh, it's because you're actually a man.
	And we should surgically remove your uterus and ovaries and your breasts and strip out a piece of your arm so we can create a phallus.
	And, you know, turn a little old guy, you know, which is insane.
	And of course, you know, these girls are young, and we all know how suggestible girls are.
	I'm not talking about girls and boys, too, for that matter.
	You know, I mean, children.
	Children.
	We're talking about across the board, boys and girls.
	They are incredibly suggestible.
	It's so easy to make them think that this is good and that's bad or vice versa.
	And it's so easy to inculcate into their little minds, little minds, I don't mean this despectively, but rather in their young minds, all kinds of notions that are fucking insane.
	And so you have this, you have also an issue of, and this is a dirty secret, there is a lot of money to be made in transgender surgery.
	Shit loads to be made.
	There is something really, really interesting that I read on 4chan.
	4chan is still, it's kind of like the gutter of the internet.
	A lot of times some golden nuggets appear.
	There's some facts in there sometimes.
	And there was this guy who did like a long thread, I remember.
	He worked for, he was a lobbyist, and he worked for some medical group that was specifically about plastic surgery.
	And they tried out the notion of fomenting, by way of advertising and so forth, plastic surgery in Brazil.
	And one of the unintended side effects Was that a lot of men started applying for gender reassignment surgery.
	As they fomented, as they advertised plastic surgery to have the perfect body, the perfect face, the perfect body, implants and whatnot, because all these operations are extremely expensive, extremely lucrative.
	That's why they were lobbying for more of this and advertising and all the rest of it.
	They discovered that there was a substantial segment of people who for whatever reason, for whatever fetish, for whatever insanity they might have, they wanted to change sex.
	And that's how all of a sudden in Brazil, you started having all these gender reassignment surgeries, which the plastic surgeons were happy because it made them so much more money.
	You see the dynamic going on.
	And so a lot of this gender ideology is fueled because it makes money.
	There's also the fact that there's a lot of money behind the advertisement and fomenting of gender reassignment surgery.
	The Pritzker family in Chicago, they are this very rich family.
	That several of their members are trans, and they put a lot of money behind the trans causes, the various trans groups and what have you.
	And so, you know, it's a money play and an ideological play.
	And the only people who are going to suffer are these poor girls and these poor boys who transition as adolescents and then later realize, what have I done?
	Why didn't anybody stop me?
	Yeah.
	It's too late.
	Yep.
	Because once you start going on hormone replacement therapy and shit like that, you go sterile.
	Male or female.
	You go sterile and you'll never have children again.
	Period.
	Okay?
	This shit is dangerous.
	Okay?
	And not only that, it allows a lot of really decadent people to basically pretend to be women so that they have access to female spaces and just do nasty shit or rape people and such.
	I mean, we hear about stories in prisons happening all the time.
	In women's prisons, some guy identifies as a woman and they put him in there and the guy starts raping women left and right in the prison.
	Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, that came up on the news.
	The guy literally committed a rape outside as a regular guy, changes gender to a woman, got put in jail with women.
	It's like, bro, that makes no sense.
	Yeah, not to mention that when you have these transgender individuals competing in sports, they demolish the women.
	Even though they're on drugs, right, and anti-hormone suppressants, etc., they're still destroying the women because at the end of the day, women are physically inferior to men, but we live in a clown world where we tell women that they're equal to men.
	Yeah.
	You know how easy, how suggestible children are?
	You know how easy it is to fool them?
	Think Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
	There you go.
	Good points.
	We adults, we pretend that the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy is real and the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.
	We know it's not, of course.
	And we fool the kids.
	We think it's innocent.
	And it is innocent.
	Nobody's trying to do anything bad.
	But I remember very clearly, and you guys probably do too, being four, five, six years old and perhaps a little older, but I'm too embarrassed to admit it.
	I'm looking forward to Santa's visit and wondering, how come he never leaves any clues?
	There are no footprints or anything.
	What's going on there, you know?
	But, you know, totally convinced that Santa is real.
	Yeah, tooth-fitting.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so it's so easy to fool children into believing something nonsensical.
	And if you want to be, like, among the cool people, because now it's kind of, like, cool to have a trans kid.
	So the adults start doing that.
	There's also something else that I have to admit I find deeply disturbing.
	Have you guys ever seen a picture of Liv Schreiber, the actor, with his quote-unquote daughter?
	What's his name?
	Liv Schreiber.
	He was...
	I don't know who that is.
	You know, he's an actor.
	I forget what movie, but there's some pictures of him with his daughter at some event.
	His daughter is trans.
	It's deeply creepy.
	That's all I'm going to say about that.
	Even on Rumble, I might get into serious trouble.
	Or you guys might get into serious trouble.
	But it is deeply fucking creepy.
	I mean, let me just see if I can find this real quick.
	And I also want to ask you a question while you look for that, Gonzalo.
	You made a video back in the day.
	If you were president of the United States, right?
	Or if you were ruler of the United States, some things that you would implement.
	In it, you said you would not necessarily get rid of gay people, but you wouldn't necessarily prop them up in society because they don't really contribute.
	Can you go into more detail about that?
	Yeah, because, you know, what's the future of any society?
	Children, right?
	I mean, if a society has no children, it has no future, right?
	It's not complicated, right?
	And so here, I'm gonna put a picture up real quick.
	Check it out.
	I just put it in the screen.
	You can Christina, hit that add to stream right there on the bottom right.
	You see?
	Right.
	Nope.
	Yep.
	Right there.
	Yep.
	Add.
	Yep.
	Click that.
	Oh, what the hell?
	And that's supposed to be a son?
	No.
	Well, originally it was a boy.
	Now, not so much.
	Wow.
	Oh, man.
	That's terrible.
	And the thing is, he doesn't even know.
	This kid is too young to know anything, man.
	Do you notice something a little weird about how they're standing?
	A little too possessive?
	A little too...
	I don't know.
	It looks like this is a walk in the park to them.
	It looks like...
	It's kind of like the pose I would have with a girlfriend.
	Adult girlfriend.
	I'm sorry.
	Straight.
	Bonfire!
	All right, you can remove it, Christina.
	That's terrible.
	That's enough, yeah.
	Yeah, that boy, he doesn't even know how to wipe his ass probably, and yet they're going ahead and, you know what I mean?
	It's ridiculous.
	Yeah, I mean, it's a little...
	Oh, well, if you want to really...
	From the same photo shoot, hang on, let me just put it...
	I think it's there, this one.
	Put up this one.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Is it coming up?
	Oh, there you go.
	Oh yeah, that's weird.
	What the hell?
	I'm sorry.
	Look, I'm a parent of a nine-year-old daughter, okay?
	About to turn 10 this year.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, you're never going to catch me dead in a pose like that with my kid, okay?
	I'm sorry, you know?
	And maybe that makes me old-fashioned, neo-fascist, retrograde, Putin agent, you know, misogynist, bigot, whatever.
	Fine.
	I'm that.
	I'm all that.
	But I'm never going to pose that way with my kid, okay?
	Unless, you know, let's not even talk that.
	But it's normalization of pedophilia.
	That's what we're talking about.
	I mean, we really want to be honest about it.
	They're heading in that direction.
	They're already calling pedophilia, you know, to call somebody a pedo is now bigoted.
	It's actually minor attracted person.
	MAP. M-A-P. Minor attracted person.
	Whenever you see somebody in their bio on Twitter that says that they are an M-A-P, Know exactly what the fuck you're talking about, okay?
	Or who you're dealing with.
	You're dealing with fucking pedos, you know?
	I mean, this is the level of decadence.
	And this is late-stage Roman Empire shit, okay?
	That kind of shit happens, you know, when an empire is collapsing.
	And that's what's going on in the United States, see?
	Because I'm talking about this particular issue.
	But the actions that the United States is carrying out in Ukraine, the actions, the war, rather, that is coming up with China, and that's happening in 2025.
	And that's baked in the cake.
	That's happening.
	It's all because of a collapsing empire and a leadership class that knows that it's losing its grip and that the whole shit show is going up in flames, and so they are desperately lashing out, even as they fail to address any of the internal problems going on in the United States and the West.
	These people who are in leadership positions, they are lashing out, and they are doing all kinds of insanity in terms of foreign policy.
	The war against Russia, the coming war against China, That didn't need to happen.
	But it's symptomatic of a leadership class in the West that feels that its power is collapsing.
	And so in desperation, they're lashing out and using all available resources, even as within the United States, within the Western democracies, you're seeing this kind of decadence and degeneracy.
	You're seeing all those poor people in Portland, in San Francisco, homeless people, people with mental problems, shitting on the streets and shooting up in broad daylight.
	You know, these are all symptoms of imperial collapse.
	That's what we're talking about here.
	It's a fucking tragedy.
	So, we covered a lot of topics here regarding what's being set up with the current war, what's happening now.
	What's the solution you think?
	Let it all burn.
	Let it all burn?
	Okay.
	It's too late.
	It's too late.
	Too far gone.
	Yeah, I mean, like, I mean, your question is valid.
	And I've thought about this a great, great deal.
	Okay, and I'm giving a flippant answer.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	But to look at it really cold bloodedly.
	I think that the corrections that should have been taken should have been taken in the 90s, early 2000s.
	I think it's too late to stop the slide.
	It's a fucking tragedy.
	What's also going to happen is that in the United States, most of your audience is in the US, right?
	Yeah.
	Am I still on?
	You got your line up there.
	So what happens is that an empire decays slowly and then all of a sudden, okay?
	It's like things are going not too well, they're kind of going bad, and then all of a sudden there's this tipping point moment where the slide really goes downhill, okay?
	And so we're getting to that point.
	All this trans stuff, it's really trivial on a historical scale when you step back and look at the overall picture.
	It's just a symptom of the overall collapse in the West.
	And there's no way to stop it.
	I've given it a great deal of thought.
	And if there is a suggestion, I'd love to hear it.
	I mean, I'm not closed off to any suggestion, realistic suggestion that could change things around.
	But see, the entire political class in the United States, the Republicans and the Democrats that have the whole political system locked up tight, they're all on the same page.
	They have differences of opinion here and there and little shit.
	But generally, they're all marching to the same beat.
	You have a few people in Congress, for instance, who are making a lot of noise and want to prevent this decay, because perhaps they don't articulate it as a decay, but they fundamentally sense it's a decay.
	And some of them are trying to fight against this decay, and I admire them, but I think it's kind of like a hopeless cause, to tell you the truth.
	In 10 years, the United States that will exist in 10 years will be, you know, it will be like a third world country.
	It will be some like shithole, the whole fucking thing.
	Because see, San Francisco, Portland, that's the future of all of the United States.
	Yeah.
	So you got to understand what's coming.
	You got to see, I'm always for realism.
	And I always believe in looking at things in the face and not pretending that they're not happening or not pretending that it's not really there or it's not that bad.
	You gotta look at shit in the face.
	And when you see this insanity going on, minor attracted people, the homelessness situation, the fact that, you know, limitless numbers of foreigners are arriving in the United States and now you have drug wars of the Mexican drug cartels taking place in New Mexico and Arizona.
	You know, the whole shit show is falling apart.
	And I don't see realistically a way to turn back the tide because there are too many people who think that, number one, this is, on ideological grounds, they think this is a good thing, all this shit show that's going on.
	Because they do think that it's a good thing, which is fucking insane, but okay.
	But then there are other people who stand to make a lot of money from this collapse.
	And they're egging it on.
	Okay?
	And there's nobody putting on the brakes or nobody who has the power to put on the brakes in this situation.
	Yeah.
	I was trying to think of a solution.
	There's not, bro.
	Yeah, I think from what I've seen, and you know, it's always interesting because like one of the barometers that I like to use, I've never said this, but I'll say it here on Rumble.
	One of the barometers I like to use about, you know, Western and American lunacy is my friend John from Modern Life Dating.
	He lives in Japan.
	He lives in Tokyo.
	And Tokyo...
	Japan has its own problems, etc.
	But one thing that the Far East does still prioritize is family, children, and the nuclear family.
	They don't have the men looking like bumbling idiots and retards, etc.
	on mainstream media.
	Feminism hasn't seeped into the same deep level that it has here.
	And every time he comes back, he's more and more shocked at the obesity, the lack of respect for masculinity, the...
	How feminism has continued to indoctrinate more and more women.
	And I'm seeing it myself.
	When I went to college back in 20...
	When I graduated in 2013 from Northeastern University in Boston, it was one thing.
	You can have these conversations a little bit.
	But nowadays, if you were to have these conversations with someone that's a college student or whatever, they'd look at you like you're a bigot, whatever.
	Anything that doesn't, I guess, agree with far-left ideals is considered...
	You know, you're a bigot.
	And if you look at someone like Tim Poole, right?
	Ten years ago, he was considered a raging liberal, right?
	Now, he's considered a raging right-wing, you know, person.
	So it just has gone to show that we've gone further and further and further into lunacy out here in the West.
	And I look at it like, and I had a conversation, and we'll talk about Andrew Tate here in a second.
	I had a conversation with Andrew about this, and he said something very, very smart.
	He said, when it comes to the United States, the UK, etc., make your money, get the fuck out.
	And he said that you're going to have opportunity in the United States, right?
	It's a capitalist society.
	For now.
	Yeah, and that's what he was saying.
	He was saying, you know, make your money, you know, find somewhere else, get the hell out, right?
	Make your money and get out.
	And I mean, he's right.
	Like, this is, we literally are just slowly descending into a clown world where we got celebrities openly advocating to change your child to another gender when that kid can barely form any type of real rational thought.
	It's a clown world.
	I mean, what are your thoughts on that, Gonzalo?
	Then we can talk about Andrew Tate.
	It's a fucking clown world, man.
	Like I said, it's a collapsing empire.
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry, I haven't had breakfast.
	I'm having some honey.
	No, no worries.
	No, I'm telling you, it's a shit show.
	There's no solution to it.
	And you just got to enjoy the decade.
	You got to laugh at it because if you don't laugh at it, you'll just cry.
	Yo, I love it, bro.
	Everybody says in my videos that I laugh all the time at the shit that I discuss, right?
	Yeah.
	And they say that they all love my super villain laugh, you know, that I have on my videos.
	I'm not going to do it now, but...
	The thing is, see, I laugh at this shit because if I didn't laugh, I'd just sit down and cry.
	Because I'm a man of the West, okay?
	Culturally, you know, I'm from Chile.
	Yeah, you're from New York.
	You're American.
	Yeah, you know, as a Chilean, I grew up knowing that I had a straight cultural line from, you know, Chile to Spain to Rome to the classical Greeks, right?
	I'm a man of the West thoroughly.
	And I see what's happening to Western culture, Western society, and how it's collapsing.
	And I'm like, what the fuck happened?
	Where did we fucking go wrong?
	And I think it might be as simple as we had too much prosperity.
	The simple reality.
	There's that saying, you know, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times, hard times make strong men.
	Yep.
	And so we had such good time for so goddamn long that everybody got weak.
	I mean, look at the men today.
	They're fucking little pussy ass bitches.
	I mean, it's embarrassing.
	Straight faggots.
	Yep.
	No, they're like constantly like, you know, my feelings.
	How do I feel about something?
	Fuck that, you know?
	I mean, like, I crashed my motorcycle the other day, right?
	I fucked up my knee pretty badly, and I cracked the rib, and I did something to my wrist, too.
	It was, yeah, I'm the fucking bike, man.
	It's a Ducati Scrambler.
	I clipped off the gear shifter.
	It's gonna have to need a rebuild of the transmission.
	It's all kinds of fuck, but anyway.
	I crashed.
	I didn't like it, but I didn't whine about the fucking thing.
	I just got up and just moved my bike out of the way and put it in some place safe and just went home.
	I'm not going to whine and bitch about it because shit happens.
	Am I still on or are you guys still on?
	You got you.
	We got you.
	But now, everybody's like, oh, she didn't text me back.
	What does that mean about me?
	Does she like me or not?
	Fucking little pussy.
	I'm telling you, they obsess about what other people think about them, as opposed to what they think about themselves.
	I'll tell you right now, the only person I give a shit about, the only person's opinion I care about is my own.
	Whether I'm acting as I should, Okay?
	And whether I'm not acting as I should.
	Who somebody else says about me or what I say or think?
	Fuck off!
	You're nobody.
	You're just some stranger.
	But these boys today, and they're boys, but they're like 40-year-old men, but they have the mentality of a boy, of a child.
	It's just fucking pathetic.
	The women.
	Oh, God.
	Don't get me started with the goddamn women.
	Go ahead, take it away.
	They are all entitled, annoying, nobodies, nothings.
	Some fat little piglet, right?
	She's like 5'2".
	She weighs like 160 pounds, right?
	And she's dressed with skin-tight clothing, right?
	And her rolls of flesh popping out from over her jeans, you know, like an ice cream cone, right?
	And she's like, you know, I'm not going to settle for a guy who's not like a millionaire who's 6'2 and has a six-pack and a six-foot-long dick.
	Facts.
	Fuck, man.
	I mean, they're so unrealistic and entitled.
	It's 5'5 and 170 pounds, man.
	Incredible.
	I said the average American woman is somewhere between 5'3 to 5'5 and 170 pounds.
	The average African-American woman is 180 pounds.
	Ridiculous.
	I'd never fuck a woman over 100 pounds.
	I'm sorry.
	I can say for a fact that my ex-wife, when she was pregnant, like eight months pregnant, she was tipping the scale at like 110.
	So, fuck off.
	I'm not going to be with some land whale, lard ass.
	No, fuck that.
	Out of just self-respect and dignity.
	Now that we're on Rumble, I'll tell the story.
	Once I did fuck a 300-pound land whale, but it was so fucking fun.
	I really, because like, you know, I went through a phase, like in my 30s, early 30s, you know, where you're like, you know, what do you like?
	It started when I was 29.
	I went to Cancun.
	If you guys are up for this, I'll tell you the story.
	I went to Cancun to Club Med.
	I went by myself.
	It was just a big old fuckfest.
	Even a loser like me could pick up girls.
	I wound up banging this 52-year-old woman.
	One of the several in that vacation.
	Because I thought to myself, you know, when will I have the chance to ever bang somebody who's 23 years older than me, right?
	So I did the deed, you know, and it wasn't even a good lay.
	She wasn't even that good at it.
	But, you know, bucket list.
	And from there, you know, in my early 30s, you know, and I'm sure I'm going to burn in hell for this, I just went through a bucket list, you know, of different combinations, you know, ethnicities, everything, you know.
	You know, FMM threesomes, you know, check.
	And a land whale.
	I was in Alaska because I went on this road trip with my dog.
	And I had a Land Rover, and I went from New York City to Boston, then Toronto, then around the Great Lakes, up to Calgary, Edmonton, then across the Rocky Mountains.
	Oh, and I went to Yellowknife, too, up in Canada.
	Okay.
	Fairbanks.
	And I'm staying at this kind of like hostel kind of place, right?
	And it was nobody.
	This was middle of winter that I went on this trip.
	It was fucking awesome.
	But anyway.
	And the woman there running it at the time, and she was the only one there because there were no guests, right?
	She was this 300-pound land whale.
	I'm like, I'm going to beg her.
	You know, and it was just like swimming in an ocean of flesh.
	You know, I felt like it was just like, you know, like that, like moving it aside and like, look at this role, pushing it aside and pushing this other.
	It was just fucking hilarious.
	But yeah, the one time.
	Bucket list.
	I know what you mean, man.
	But that's all that's available?
	I would go celibate if I were in the States.
	I'd be like, fuck that.
	I'm never getting laid again.
	If they're all like porkers...
	And I'm sorry, if this is misogynist, fine.
	I don't care.
	I mean, I really don't care.
	It's all good, man.
	It's all good.
	Welcome to...
	You're on the First Event Podcast, a.k.a.
	Misogyny Headquarters.
	Amen.
	Been there, done that, bro.
	Been there, done that, bro.
	Yo.
	Yeah, and so, well, then you know what I'm talking about, right?
	You know...
	But anyway, look, the whole thing about women is that, see, the culture, basically, feminism is all about...
	First of all, you have to understand something about feminism that very few people understand.
	And this is actually a serious point.
	Yeah, please.
	Who fomented, who encouraged feminism?
	It was the corporations.
	That's something that people don't understand.
	Or perhaps your audience does, but for those of you who don't in the audience, let me explain.
	When feminism started to arise in the 1960s, there was a lot of American Chamber of Commerce types and people like that and people who were trying to, you know, capitalist institutions on a local level.
	They started encouraging feminism because, you see, See, a lawyer traditionally was a guy, right?
	Now, what is being a lawyer?
	It's a brain-intensive enterprise.
	You have to have a lot of brains, but you don't have to have a lot of muscle, right?
	Just brains.
	Now, men and women generally are equal in intelligence, right?
	And so what happens is that, you know, you're a businessman.
	You're running a law firm, say.
	And so you say, you know, I've got these lawyers, and I'm paying them, you know, $300 an hour, $400 an hour.
	Do I want to pay them that?
	Or do I want to bring in more lawyers so that I can drive the cost of labor down?
	Yeah.
	Because I'm paying 300 bucks an hour for these attorneys that work for me.
	But wouldn't it be great if I could just pay them 200?
	Oh, did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	Some bomb went off.
	Oh, shit.
	Well, we'll see what happens.
	Anyway, if I get cut off, you know, it's because of that.
	But anyway, the point is that, see, the professional organizations of all stripes, medicine, legal, they started encouraging women and funding feminism in order to encourage women to get degrees and advanced degrees and enter the workforce to drive down the price of labor.
	Have you ever wondered why oil rig workers or Alaska fishermen earn so much money?
	Because there isn't a wider available pool of labor.
	Because women can't do that job because it's too physically demanding.
	And so that's why the cost is high, because there's a small pool of people who can do those jobs.
	Yep.
	But in law, compared to a longshoreman or a pipeline worker, right?
	The pipeline worker's salary was here.
	The lawyer's was probably higher, right?
	But as more women became lawyers because of feminism that encouraged them and told them, look, you can't be a real woman.
	If you don't have a career, you have to have a career and you prioritize a career.
	Well, the price, the cost of the lawyer, just for inflation, went down.
	Because there were more lawyers, because there were more women working as lawyers, sacrificing childbearing and childrearing for the sake of lowering the cost of labor.
	Look at Ms.
	Magazine, the big feminist outlet.
	I don't know if it's still around, but it used to be around.
	The people funding that, it wasn't funded by subscriptions and sales and ad revenue.
	It was funded by professional organizations and corporations.
	Precisely to encourage more women to join the workforce so as to drive down the price of labor.
	So you've got to understand there's that situation.
	And then this is second wave feminism.
	Second wave feminism is when all these women started foregoing having children and instead decided to work as a lawyer in value-added, brain-intensive occupations.
	So the women didn't become longshoremen or oil rig workers.
	They became lawyers because in a law firm, you know, physically, what do you do?
	You get on an elevator, walk to your office and write a lot.
	That's the physical demands of the occupation, quite frankly.
	And so women went into those jobs and those jobs salaries decreased.
	And all of a sudden you had families where before it was just the guy making a living and the wife was the housewife, the homemaker, and she had the children and looked after the house.
	And with his salary alone, they could afford a fairly decent lifestyle.
	But now you need both to be working to afford the same lifestyle.
	And of course, because they're both working, they can't have as many children.
	They have far fewer children.
	This has been across the board in the West.
	And it was deliberately done in order to drive down the cost of labor.
	That was the point of it.
	And so you have that situation on the one hand.
	And on the other hand, you have this insistence that there is a...
	Sorry about the air raid siren.
	I can't do anything about it.
	But there's this insistence that women, on the one hand, women are just as good as men and there should be equality and all the rest of it.
	But on the other hand, women want to have their traditional privileges that existed before feminism.
	Basically, they want to eat their cake and have it too.
	Yep.
	You see what's going on?
	So these women are incredibly entitled.
	And on top of that, you have social media that gives them unrealistic expectations for what they can achieve with their lives, insofar as their job, insofar as their lifestyle, and insofar as the man that they can achieve, that they can get and hold.
	And on top of that, you have this open sexualization, this promiscuity.
	That only hurts women.
	And this was understood in the 60s, you see?
	In the 60s when the sexual revolution hit.
	And there's a very good book called The Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom that he discusses this.
	He was a professor at Cornell and he discussed how a lot of students, male students, would see all of a sudden these girls start sleeping around.
	And they would say, these women are throwing their lives away.
	They're ruining themselves.
	And not only that, see, the girls start fucking the top tier guy, right?
	But the top tier guy just wants to fuck them and dump them.
	He's not going to hang around with some porker, right?
	Of course not.
	And so these four girls, they score some, you know, Chad once or maybe twice or three times.
	I mean, right?
	And then they think that they can get that guy, but that guy is out of their league.
	Exactly.
	We all know the league that we're in, sexually speaking.
	We all know the kind of girl that we can attract or the kind of guy that a woman can attract, right?
	Exactly.
	But when you have this free-for-all in the sexual marketplace, you have all these women who think that they can score some Chad permanently, and they can't.
	Yep.
	So they fuck some guy who's like way above them in the hierarchy and they're bitter about it for the rest of their lives and they settle.
	And they despise the guy that they settle for because they don't understand that that was the best that they could ever do.
	You see?
	But because of this promiscuity, they have access briefly to a very high status guy.
	And that memory remains with them for the rest of their lives.
	Yep.
	The other thing, too, is, of course, you have the incel problem, the involuntary celibate problem.
	I mean, it's reasonable to estimate that I think that that population of men who do not have any sexual opportunity at all.
	I mean, zero.
	It's the bottom 30% of men, at least.
	And the guys who have just sporadic sexual opportunities is the percentile from 31th percentile to probably about 60%.
	And then from 61% to about 80%, they kind of make it.
	But it's the top tier guy, the top 20%.
	They get all the pussy.
	It's even less than that now, coach.
	It's actually less than that now.
	There was a study that came out that 5% of the guys, top 5% of men are the most promiscuous.
	And just so you guys know, for all you guys that say that Gonzalo is not in Ukraine, you guys hear the horns.
	He's really there.
	Yeah, the siren, yeah.
	No, it's actually a tape recorder I have of the noise.
	I play it periodically.
	This is a tragedy for women because they have unrealistic expectations that are shattered.
	It's also a tragedy.
	They say that by the year 2030, over half the women over 40 will be without children, without any kind of family.
	This is a fucking tragedy.
	This is a disaster.
	Forget about the demographics.
	On a personal level, for all these poor women, it's just going to be horrifying.
	I was going to say, Gonzalo, I'm literally writing a book about this.
	It comes out on Valentine's Day.
	It's called Why Women Deserve Less.
	And I go into excruciating detail on some of the points that you just discussed, which, yeah, it's 100% true.
	Feminism was definitely lobbied for and paid for by a lot of corporations to bring down the labor costs.
	And what you just described...
	As far as Alaskan fishermen, all the jobs that create infrastructure that are difficult to do, they're run by men.
	But when you look at the top 10 jobs that women have, they're all useless jobs that, quite frankly, don't really contribute to the infrastructure of society.
	What it does is it allows women to go into the workforce, but what women don't understand is they inadvertently decrease the price of labor.
	Which then hurts them.
	It puts them in a situation where they now have to work.
	And another thing too, Gonzalo, that I've seen you talk about before, which I think is a fantastic point, but even though people try to fight against this, you know, women derive more pleasure from a family and children than they do a career.
	And I think that's where you were going to go next here.
	I've said that many times for years now.
	You've been saying it for a very long time.
	And I remember you cited a study from Ireland, and I'd be happy if you have anything else as well that kind of stands to this, where after COVID, women left the workforce, right?
	Well, they came back from the workforce, right, to be at home, and they worked from home and taking care of loved ones, et cetera.
	And when COVID was over, and the pandemic kind of subsided, and people were able to re-enter, et cetera, most of the women elected to actually stay at home with the loved ones.
	Can you tell us about that?
	Yeah, because, you know, people don't understand, you know, like, we're hunter-gatherers, right?
	So, what was the division of labor?
	Because men are stronger, on average, than women, physically stronger.
	Yeah.
	The men would be sent off to hunt, right?
	And the women would take care of the hearth and home, and the children, and the elderly people, and so forth, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	And so...
	Guys don't want to go out and hunt the fucking bison or go to the fucking job.
	No guy wants that.
	We do it because we have responsibilities.
	And we shoulder those responsibilities and we want to provide for our family.
	And we recognize that women are a lot better at the whole touchy-feely, you know, kiss the boob away kind of shit, right?
	Because they are.
	Because by evolution, they've evolved to be better at that shit.
	Whereas guys, we're monomaniacally focused.
	We focus on the fucking bison.
	We're going to go home and hunt that fucker down, no matter how long it takes.
	And we'll just bring it back and just chill out by the campfire while other people deal with the fucking bison.
	That's what we do.
	We don't like going out to hunt the bison.
	We don't like going to the job.
	But we do it because it's our burden, our responsibility.
	But we get satisfaction out of doing it well.
	But apart from that, we don't really want to.
	But women have been brainwashed into thinking that they want to do the same thing.
	They find themselves being miserable.
	And what's most important is, again, to round back to what we were talking about, about transgender stuff.
	See, like I said, young people are very easy to manipulate.
	And so it's very easy to manipulate girls, young women, you know, 20-somethings, into thinking that they have to have a career above all else.
	And by the time they're old enough to realize what makes them truly happy is something completely different, i.e.
	having a family of their own, children of their own, having strong social bonds with their extended family and their community.
	By the time they realize it, they're too late to have children.
	And it's a tragedy for them.
	And as a society, we rescind our responsibility to show to women, no, you don't want to go into the workforce.
	You want to create these social conditions so that when you're 40, when you're 50, when you're 60, and to the day you die, you're surrounded by people who love you and who you love.
	And the society doesn't encourage this.
	On the contrary.
	Because of financial reasons, for the financial benefit of rich people, basically, they encourage women, brainwash women, into pursuing lives that are going to make them deeply, deeply unhappy.
	Because there is no such thing as a happy female attorney.
	I dated a few when I was living in Manhattan.
	None of them were happy.
	They all hated the fucking job.
	But, well, it's the thing I'm supposed to do.
	You know, I went to college.
	You know, I went to law school.
	And so, you know, this is what I'm supposed to do.
	And they were miserable, you know?
	Gonzalo, I have a very important thing.
	Because you just mentioned something there very interesting.
	We actually had a woman on the podcast last week, right?
	Attractive Russian girl.
	33 years old.
	And she said that, you know, she fell for the live feminism.
	She lived in New York.
	She's an entrepreneur, higher earner.
	She chased a career, income, travel, etc.
	And it wasn't until she found Andrew Tate that she realized she fucked up, that she had wasted her best years with Not finding the best man that she could.
	And she kind of believed this lie of feminism of chasing a career, making money, etc.
	And now, at 33 years old, she's trying to find a man and get a family.
	And it took Andrew Tate, according to mainstream media, Mr.
	Toxically Masculine, for her to wake up.
	But we don't tell women this until it's too late.
	Because here's the difference between a man that's 33 and a woman that's 33.
	A man that's 33 can still have a family.
	A woman that's 33, well, most of her rugs are gone.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you know, the famous Stephen Molyneux meme, you know, her egg box is empty.
	Yeah, it's a hard truth.
	And look, life is unfair, okay?
	It's unfair.
	And then it kind of...
	Yeah, life isn't fair.
	I'm a 55-year-old guy, and I could have children today if I wanted.
	I have small children now that I had in my 40s.
	It's the biological reality.
	A guy can have children as long as he wants to.
	Fucking Picasso had a kid when he was 90.
	A lot of feminists will say, oh yeah, but the kid is going to have all kinds of genetic defects.
	That's a lie.
	That's just Because it is true that older men have a higher incidence that's actually triple the incidence of Down syndrome.
	But the base percentage is so low.
	It's like one in a thousand.
	So it triples by the time he's like in his seventies.
	So it becomes three in a thousand.
	Yeah.
	Still, it's microscopically small odds, okay?
	In general, a guy can have kids as long as he wants to.
	A woman can't.
	And that's a biological reality.
	A woman starts ovulating, and roughly around 15, 16, she can comfortably and safely bear a child up until the age of maybe 37.
	And after that, it's a crapshoot, okay?
	This is a biological reality.
	It's not sexism to say this.
	This is the truth.
	It's like, you know...
	I mean, any reasonable truth.
	But nowadays, even the reasonable truths become controversial and might be counseled.
	There are boys and there are girls.
	Ah, cancel the fucker!
	The point is, yeah, a clown world.
	But the reality for women is that unless heroic medical procedures are undertaken, a woman past the age of 37 to 42 is unlikely to conceive naturally and bear a healthy child.
	Yeah.
	It's unlikely.
	I mean, after 45, forget it.
	It's just not going to fucking happen.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	By 35, most of her eggs are gone and it's considered a high risk pregnancy.
	By 30, I think 80% of her eggs are gone.
	So I think, you know, and we don't tell women this.
	I can't tell you, Gonzalo, how many times we've had women on the panel and we tell them, yeah, most of your eggs are gone by 30.
	And they look at me like I'm crazy.
	And I'm like, how do you not know this?
	And you're a female.
	How do I know more about your body than you know about yours?
	But it just goes back to show the intense propaganda that feminism has fed women in the West to let them think that they have more time than they really do.
	And that woman coming on the show, admitting that was a really interesting and profound moment.
	We've had a couple of women come on and admit, yeah, I pissed away my 20s.
	I shouldn't have done that.
	And it took Andrew Tate, who the West wants to demonize, to wake her up.
	Yeah, but a young girl that's in her prime, bro, that's having fun, has a lot of options.
	You can't tell them nothing.
	Social media, TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat.
	Bro, you think she cares about what we got to say?
	Yeah.
	She really doesn't care.
	Yeah.
	But when it's too late, you guys were right.
	That's why she found Andrew, because she realized the feminists were lying to her.
	And then, you know, and the other thing, too, about Andrew, why people listen to him is because he's that guy that women want.
	Yeah.
	Multimillionaire, got a Bugatti, nice watches, nice lifestyle, et cetera.
	Lifestyle, yeah.
	He's speaking for these higher class guys that have this money, that have these options, telling you, yeah, we don't want no old hoe.
	Whoa!
	This is me!
	You know?
	But speaking of transitioning over, Gonzalo, I mean, you spent a considerable amount of time in all different parts of the world, to include Eastern Europe, which is where Romania is located.
	What are your thoughts on the situation with Andrew and what's going on with this case?
	Okay, as I understand it, no victim, like, credible victim has come forward.
	And in fact, all the women he associated with say that he didn't mistreat them or do anything untrue towards them, right?
	Yeah, two of them actually came forward and said, like, why is Dicot using our statements?
	We're not victims.
	We're actually going to go interview them in Dubai, guys.
	So check that out in late February.
	We're going to go and do an interview with them.
	Yeah, that sounds interesting.
	Yeah, but yeah, definitely.
	Okay, so there are no victims here.
	No credible victims at any rate.
	Just a lot of hearsay, but nothing like rock solid here, right?
	And they're holding him without charging him with anything, right?
	Yes, just preventive detention and remaining.
	It's bullshit.
	It's as simple as that.
	And my suspicion is that somebody put the screws on the Romanians to pick him up.
	You know, and I saw some clip of Tate himself saying that, you know, the first thing they do is cancel you, then they arrest you for trumped up charges, and the third is that they take you out.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's kind of like proving the point, you know.
	Now, I've never interacted with Andrew Tate, although I know a lot of people who have, like you guys, like Rich Cooper, you know.
	My personal take on Andrew is that sometimes he comes across as a little bit of a blowhard.
	I'm not criticizing him.
	It's just his approach to things.
	That's perfectly fine.
	I think that if we're looking at it really cold-bloodedly, he should have been smarter about how he arranged his affairs so as not to fall into this trap.
	Because it was a predictable trap that he'd be picked up by the Romanians.
	He himself articulated it.
	So, you know, he should have been better prepared and not allowed himself to fall into this situation.
	I mean, he's a sophisticated guy.
	He could have figured out a way to get in good with the authorities of whatever country he was living in to make sure that they didn't touch him, you know?
	And there are ways to do that.
	You know, if you've got money, there are lots of ways to create...
	How can I put it?
	I once did a video called How to Tip.
	Okay?
	And let me go into it a little bit.
	See, when you travel on business, say, or vacation to another city, a city not your own, right?
	You get off the plane, you get your bag, and you go and you take a taxi, right?
	So, you know, a lot of fools will, you know, pay the meter on the taxi and give the taxi driver a tip.
	And then, you know, maybe 10 bucks.
	And then, you know, some bellhop will take their bag and they give him 10 bucks.
	And then they'll pass the concierge and give him 10 bucks, right?
	And then they get to the desk agent, you know?
	And then, you know, they won't give the desk agent any money because he's just the desk agent.
	And then they'll, the bellhop will come to take his bag up to his room and he'll give him another 10 bucks.
	So he spent, what, 50 bucks?
	And what do you get out of it?
	Nothing.
	And he didn't get anything.
	He shelled out $50 on top of whatever the salary of these people or the meter on the taxi.
	And he didn't get anything.
	And I did this video and I basically said, what you have to do is you have to tip the right fucking person.
	Put the correct amount of money into the correct hand.
	And so in this situation hypothetical that I'm describing, you know, you get off the plane, you get your bag, you hop on the cab.
	Do you pay, do you give the taxi driver a tip?
	No, you pay him the meter.
	You get out of the cab.
	Do you give money to the bellhop?
	No, you take the bag yourself.
	Do you give the concierge 10 bucks or 20 bucks or whatever?
	No, because he's not doing anything for you right now.
	But the desk agent.
	See, the desk agent has that computer in front of him.
	Hello?
	No, we got you.
	We got you.
	The desk agent has that computer in front of him.
	And on that computer is every single fucking room in the hotel.
	And he can see which rooms are vacant and which ones are occupied.
	And you went to that hotel and you just got the basic room with no breakfast.
	And you take those 50 bucks that you would have spent on a bunch of random people.
	Instead of paying those random people 50 bucks, you put those 50 bucks in the hands of the desk agent.
	Because he is the man who controls your experience.
	Because that desk agent, right?
	He's got your reservation in this basic room with no breakfast.
	But all of a sudden, you give him 50 bucks.
	And those 50 bucks go right into his pocket.
	And he looks at his screen.
	And just with a stroke of a few keys, right?
	He can put you into a room, the same room perhaps, but on the club lounge where you get free food all day and a nice breakfast to boot.
	And that's a hell of a lot more than 50 bucks.
	It's worth maybe 70 bucks a night or more, you know, depending on the hotel.
	One time I went to this hotel in Germany, in Berlin.
	It doesn't matter if I tell it.
	It's the Adlon Hotel, okay?
	And this was years ago, so I'm not going to get anybody into trouble.
	And so I went to the Adlon Hotel, and I had a basic room.
	With a girl I was seeing at the time.
	And, well, actually it was the woman who became my wife and now ex-wife.
	But anyway, the point is I went to the Adlon and we had a basic room and we were going to stay a week.
	And I gave the guy 300 euros with my credit card.
	Okay?
	My credit card, he had to zip it through the thing to see my reservation.
	But 300 bucks was for him.
	And each night at the Adlon Hotel costs like 400 or 500 euros a night.
	Okay?
	And we're going to stay for, you know, a week.
	Long story short, the guy bumped us up to a suite overlooking the Brandenburg Gate.
	A suite that ran, if memory serves, I think it was like 1,700 or 1,800 euros a night.
	Wow.
	And I was still paying the basic rate of 300-400 euros or whatever it was at the time.
	Nice.
	Put the money into the right hand.
	See?
	Whenever you're in a strange situation, wherever you're in a situation where you might be vulnerable or whatever, you have to find the man who controls your experience.
	And you put the correct amount of money into that correct hand.
	You see what I'm saying?
	You don't throw it around.
	You don't throw it around on random people who mean nothing to you, who cannot control your experience.
	Do you guys see what I'm saying?
	Yeah, it's intentional effort to gain a result.
	That's one of the rules of networking.
	My only thing is that I think with Andrew, what happened was he was doing that, right?
	Probably in Romania.
	I mean, I could guess, right?
	Well, obviously not enough or not well enough.
	See, I think that there were other plays at hand where there was intense international pressure to do something because, you know, I know the U.S. Embassy got involved when this girl from Miami alleged that she had been kidnapped, which we all know is a lie.
	We have TikTok videos to show that she was in the home, hanging out, having fun, went on a trip with this other Moldovan girl who claimed that Andrew also did something to her.
	And, you know, it's all been refuted basically through their own social media that they were hanging out with the Tate brothers after making the allegations and they were in the house taking TikToks, Snapchats, Instagrams or whatever.
	And this girl from Miami, what happened was she took a story in the Tate home.
	The boyfriend recognized it, said, what are you doing in Romania?
	And she panics and says, oh, I'm being held here against my will.
	Unbeknownst to her.
	Some girl fucks some Chad.
	Boyfriend finds out.
	Oh, Chad raped me.
	Exactly.
	And that's what happened.
	She said that she was being held against her will.
	That obviously puts enormous pressure on the Romanian authorities to do something because now it's coming from the U.S. Embassy.
	They show up, they search the home, they find that there was no wrongdoing, give them back all their stuff, everything is good and dandy.
	And then as Andrew continues to blow up and have an enormous amount of influence, and he's giving information like what me and you give, you know, feminism is a lie, go out there and make more money, try to venture to be an entrepreneur, don't be a slave, et cetera, challenge the system.
	Well, I think he started to get too much influence in a lot of the elites, right, as he refers to as the matrix.
	Well, Andrew's taking money out of people's pockets if he's telling them COVID's a scam, have multiple passports, don't be locked down in one country, etc.
	All of this stuff is very anti-establishment.
	So I think his success and his popularity and galvanizing men, because the most dangerous thing you can have is galvanized men that are motivated, I think that was what scared people to say, yo, we got to silence this guy.
	He's speaking too much truth.
	He's attacking the establishment and we got to do something.
	And then you got these girls over here that, quite frankly, we know, right?
	So, for example, this Maldovin girl, I know for a fact she wanted to start a TikTok career.
	She wanted 200,000-year-old from Andrew.
	He didn't want to give it to her and he kicked her out of the house.
	A day later, she goes and says she was raped.
	And then the Miami girl...
	We know that her boyfriend called the U.S. Embassy because she said, I'm being held against her.
	She's admitting that she fucked Tristan.
	Yeah, well, look, you know, spilt milk.
	The situation with Tate Brothers is, you know, despicable.
	We all agree.
	I personally think that when he went on Piers Morgan, he should have known that it would be smart to take some serious precautions.
	Perhaps go to some country where it was not possible to easily extradite him, or where things would have, you know, been able to be more easily smoothed over.
	I mean, I feel terrible for the guy.
	I think it's grossly, grotesquely unfair.
	Did he have it coming?
	No, not at all.
	I'm not saying that not by one little bit.
	But I'm saying that, you know, for your audience, when you become high profile, you have to know where your weak points are or the avenues where you can be gotten to.
	And so you have to make preparations and be ready and forge the right relationships so that you don't get caught under the wheels of the bus.
	You see what I'm saying?
	I'm not criticizing Andrew Tate.
	I enjoy clips of him.
	I have to admit that when he goes on a little bit too long, it's just a matter of taste.
	I agree with everything he says pretty much.
	But sometimes his delivery just tires me out a little bit.
	I'm an old guy, what the fuck?
	But the situation he's caught himself in, yeah.
	I agree that one of the motivations was that a lot of guys were following Andrew Tate and were starting to implement the things that he was saying, which were perfectly reasonable.
	It's basically the shit I was saying as Coach Redville.
	It's not that great minds think alike.
	It's that people notice the same fucking things.
	The same fucking thing is the truth.
	Andrew Tate, good for him, was saying it in a way that was much more that garnered a shitloads more attention than I ever did.
	But the point I want to make about the Tate situation is it's a lesson that you have to be prepared for different contingencies.
	In a way that can get you out of a tight spot with minimal effort and minimal pain.
	I personally think, and I get no pleasure out of saying this, but I think that the Tate brothers are going to be in there for a long, long time.
	And this is not something that I would like, on the contrary.
	But I think he's going to be silenced definitively.
	I do believe that he can get on social media like an hour a day or something like that.
	I don't know because I occasionally see his Twitter feed and tweet once in a while.
	So I don't know how much outside access he has.
	I think it's grotesque and fair.
	And I think that the Tate brothers are going to be in there for a long, long time.
	And probably until the attention has died down, you know, and eventually they'll say I didn't do anything and they'll cut him loose.
	But that could be months, years, you know, and who's, how the fuck are they going to get him out of a Romanian jail?
	See?
	Yeah, Romania is extremely corrupt.
	I mean, from watching this case, you know, the fact that they're able to even hold them in preventative detention with no charges filed for this long is ludicrous.
	And I mean, you know, I'm a bit more optimistic.
	I, you know, we're going to do everything in our power to get these guys.
	We spent a considerable amount of time with them in Romania and, you know, they're personal friends.
	And, you know, this is one of the few things, not many things bother me, but this situation with Andrew Tate has been bothering me.
	It's kept me up at night.
	You know, I'll admit that.
	Yeah, because he's a friend.
	I mean, I had no idea, actually, that you guys had spent time with him in Romania.
	Yeah.
	So you become friendly with them, sure.
	We stay with them for weeks.
	They invite us in their home and we stay with them for weeks.
	It's one thing when the media says one thing, but it's another thing when you know them personally and then you're like, what the hell?
	This stuff is false.
	Holding girls against their will, nothing is further from the truth.
	They had to get girls out of the house, let alone keeping them there.
	There's also something else, too.
	Never underestimate envy.
	Not haters, but envious people.
	There's a difference.
	I personally am not an envious person.
	If you have a flashy car or whatever, good for you.
	I don't care.
	It's not something that keeps me up at night.
	I've just never been particularly envious, probably because if somebody has something that I want, I just go and get it myself.
	I do alright financially, and so, you know, it's never been an issue.
	So that's why I don't feel envy, but there are very envious people, and especially women, okay?
	Hello, am I still there?
	We got you, we got you, yeah.
	Women are so envious, and they express their envy as rage.
	Rage at the target of what they're envious of or what they would desire.
	So they see a guy like Andrew Tate.
	He's got money.
	He's a good-looking guy.
	He's an actual fighter.
	I mean, like a real fighter.
	He's a catch.
	Any woman would want to have him.
	And who does he go for?
	He goes for the obvious for hot young girls.
	Young girls, overage girls.
	And so, yeah, good on him.
	But of course, these empty eggsters, if you want to call them that, It pisses them off.
	Yeah.
	Because he's the kind of guy that they would want to be with, but of course they know that they never can.
	Yeah.
	And so, like, for instance, with DiCaprio and his new girlfriend.
	DiCaprio's 48 years old, and he's got this hot young thing, 19 years old, as his new girlfriend, right?
	I've seen pictures of her.
	Holy shit, you know?
	I mean, first of all, you see a picture of her, and she's like a woman.
	She's like a rogue woman.
	And you can tell just by the picture.
	That she's been around the block.
	She's been around the block more than you and I have, probably.
	You can tell.
	A lot of these models, they get into modeling when they're like 14, 15, and they see all kinds of shit.
	And they've experienced all kinds of shit.
	They definitely do.
	A model's years are like dog years.
	Seven to each one.
	You know what I mean?
	A 19-year-old model, she's sophisticated as all get out.
	She knows exactly the score.
	She's not a child, but they're hating on DiCaprio.
	Oh, it's disgusting.
	Oh, he's going out with a teenager.
	Isn't that repulsive?
	He's got like mommy issues or this or that, the other.
	No, he's just a good looking, rich guy, famous guy, snagged the best that he could get, which is this really odd 19 year old and good on him.
	You know, I don't have a problem with it.
	I tweeted about it.
	I tweeted about it and people started calling me like I was regenerate.
	I retweeted you.
	I've said it before.
	The reason why women hate guys like Leonardo DiCaprio, Andrew Tate, etc.
	Because Andrew went viral for saying that women over 25 tend to be not a good investment.
	They're more used up, etc.
	which is 100% factual, especially Western women nowadays who prioritize sex and adventure over commitment and stability with one man.
	The reason why they're angry is because there's nothing more dangerous than a man that understands his value and worse yet, understands the lack of value in a woman.
	Western women nowadays think, "I'm special.
	I deserve the man of my dreams regardless of my past behaviors or what I bring to the table.
	Whereas guys like Andrew Tate and Leonardo DiCaprio are showing otherwise.
	Hey, you actually control the realm of relationships and you need to hold that standard to some level to get these girls to get in place.
	And women don't like to be held to a standard, yet they like to hold men to a standard.
	And that is why so many feminists and so many angry women get mad at Andrew Tate and Leonardo DiCaprio because they exemplify with their actions that women's sexual market value is indeed perishable.
	And women don't like to be held accountable for their poor decisions.
	They want to be able to have sex and be hoes and behave however they want without some kind of consequence.
	And when Andrew goes on a, you know, on a note on a, you know, NELC podcast that gets millions of views, I think it's well over 10 million views now.
	And he talked about how women in their mid 20s are used up and you typically want to date a younger girl that's more impressionable because she's going to be a better and more dutiful girlfriend and then subsequently wife.
	That offends a lot of women because it ostracizes large majority of them that chose to pick feminism.
	So I think that also is a part of it as well because you got a guy who is literally the archetype that women want telling men on a male-dominated podcast that older women are not in your best interest.
	That's blasphemy in the West.
	I mean, you've seen my videos back in the day.
	I did a video.
	Never date a girl over the age of 25.
	I did it since 2017, right?
	And I got a whole shitload of grief, but it's the truth.
	There's something else going on, too.
	See, you never want a gay girl who's in her late 20s or early 30s for the simple fact that they want to have a kid.
	They've been around the cock carousel, in that famous phrase, and they want to, quote-unquote, settle down and have a kid, you know, and have a family, right?
	And they're panicking.
	And so a woman like that, you meet her, and she will be whatever you want her to be until you put the ring on her or put a baby in her.
	And then the reality comes out.
	It's Jekyll and Hyde sometimes.
	I mean, it's really fucking frightening.
	And you don't want that to happen because you're going to be stuck with a woman and the financial responsibilities with a woman who is not at all who you thought she was.
	Before, she would do all kinds of sexual adventures and always be cooking and cleaning and being perfect.
	But once she gets married, she figures, ah, I can finally take off the mask.
	I can just relax because I locked him down.
	That's why you never date a woman who's in her late 20s, early 30s.
	You only want to go with early 20s girls because they're going to be who they are, okay?
	And sometimes, you know, sometimes they're just promiscuous women who are fun for a weekend or a weekend.
	Or a few weeks or a couple of months, perhaps.
	But, you know, catch and release, right?
	There are other girls who are very decent girls.
	And, you know, the decent girls who have their heads screwed on straight, usually because they have a strong family of their own.
	They come from a strong family of their own.
	And so they know their value.
	They know what they want.
	And, you know, those girls, yeah, they want a family, and who they are is who they are, and so you want to lock that girl down, sure, because she's a high-valued girl.
	She might not be the prettiest.
	You know, a friend of mine, recently, he's getting married.
	He was getting married to a young woman, right?
	And this guy's a professional in the 30s.
	He does very well.
	You know, he's mid-six figures and doing extremely well in his career.
	He's going to go far.
	And he locked her down.
	Is she the prettiest girl?
	No, not really.
	You know, she's alright.
	Is she a decent person?
	Fuck yeah.
	She's a very decent person.
	And she is a very good girlfriend, but not because she's trying to fool him, but because she's actually like that, okay?
	Because she's a young woman.
	And they're going to get married now, and I know for a fact that they're going to have a bunch of kids, because he's told me, because we're close friends, and he's told me, yeah, we're going to have one right away, and then, you know, maybe, you know, 18 months, two years later, another kid, and, you know...
	Onward and upward.
	Good on them.
	And they've discussed this.
	I mean, it's settled, right?
	So, you know, the point is that you have to understand that sometimes, you know, the highest girl You know, you don't want to be with her long term.
	Very true.
	I agree.
	Sometimes the girl who is the complete package, okay?
	I mean, like, my days when I was living in Manhattan in the late 90s, early 2000s, right?
	For me, that was like, you know, that was the ultimate red pill moment because by circumstance, I knew a few people who were in the fashion business.
	And I got to go to fashion shows and meet models, right?
	And my friends were better looking and cooler than I was, you know, so I got the rejects.
	But you know, the rejects were great anyway, you know.
	But, hello, am I still there?
	Yeah, no, we got you.
	Go ahead.
	And so the issue becomes, you know, you date some incredibly attractive girl, right?
	And you bang her senseless, or until you're senseless, you know, whichever comes first, right?
	And, you know, after a while, you're left with the actual person.
	And then you, you know, and you realize, holy shit, you know, she's an idiot, or she's boring, or she's just nasty.
	She's just a nasty, cruel person.
	You know, her soul is black, or at least, you know, dark gray kind of thing, right?
	Yeah.
	You start to realize, in my own case, I went through that phase of going out with extremely attractive women.
	Women, frankly, out of my league.
	Just by circumstances.
	That's when you were in New York City, right?
	Yeah.
	In the early 2000s?
	Yeah, in the early 2000s, late 90s.
	I was in my decadent phase, if you will.
	And I was lucky, like I said.
	Also, you know, I had things going for me.
	I was a published author, you know, and I had money.
	And so, you know, it smoothed the gears, if you will, right?
	I wasn't that, you know, socially adroit and cool.
	I didn't look particularly cool.
	But, you know, I'm tall enough.
	I'm six feet, you know, I'm relatively big, you know.
	And so, you know, a glamorous job.
	Social status is huge in Manhattan, too, for the people that are wondering.
	When you're talking about New York City, you know, its status is extremely important in places like Los Angeles, Miami, New York City, etc.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Looks don't carry as much for a guy in those cities.
	Absolutely.
	For a woman, it's all looks.
	Yes.
	People underestimate, like I've always said, if you could pick one amplifier to be the most attractive to the largest demographic of women, it's 1,000% status.
	Like your looks are definitely, you know, help, but someone who's famous is always going to pull more chicks than just a simply handsome guy.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yeah, no question.
	But it's more sophisticated than that, because it's not merely status, okay?
	Because what women fundamentally want is a guy who they sense can protect them, but not just physically them, but that the guy has a wide social network of friends, family, acquaintances, that he's plugged into a society, okay?
	Because the lone guy is not somebody that a woman will necessarily be attracted to, no matter how handsome and rich he might be.
	He has to be plugged in on a social level, okay?
	And be somebody that other people know and respect, see?
	Agreed.
	I'll give you a specific example.
	I once went to a party in LA. This was like 96, right?
	And I went to this party and I didn't know anybody.
	It was people in cinema and fashion and shit like that.
	And I didn't know anybody.
	Talking to some people there, and there's this very attractive girl.
	And all of a sudden, my film agent, who was a big deal in Hollywood, he came up to me to talk about some stuff, and we shared a joke and a laugh, and then we wandered off.
	But this girl recognized this agent, because he was a big deal.
	And all of a sudden, she started paying me all kinds of attention.
	Because before, I'd just been a writer, and I'd been talking her up a little bit, and she figured, oh, he's just another writer.
	Exactly.
	This very big-time agent came to me, and we just talked a little bit about this and that and the other, and we shared a laugh, but automatically the girl saw that I wasn't just a writer.
	I was a very plugged-in writer, plugged in on a social level.
	Bam.
	All of a sudden, I became much more valuable in her eyes.
	I took her home.
	Why not?
	All it took was the handshake and the friendly words.
	We also mentioned that we were going to meet up in a couple of days for a meeting that we were going to have about some project.
	She realized that I was his client.
	I was valuable.
	And all it took was this short, dumpy, balding guy with glasses, but who was a very big deal in Hollywood, for her to realize, oh, Gonzalo has value.
	There you go.
	How much weight women put on social proof versus men put almost no value, no care in social proof.
	Like, a woman can have no friends, be socially awkward, but if she's attractive enough...
	A guy will date her without an issue, even if he has an enormous amount of social proof.
	However, on the other end with the girl, they look at that as almost damn near a deal breaker.
	In this case, it was a deal maker.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And also, that's the flaw that a lot of guys think because they think that what's important to them is going to be important for the girl.
	Yes.
	So they figure that, okay, I have to look good.
	I have to work out 10 hours a day, you know, and get the perfect haircut and just the perfect clothes and everything.
	And that's how I will get the girls because I will be physically attractive and therefore they will respond the same way that I respond to the physical attractiveness of a woman.
	Good point.
	A woman doesn't give a shit what you look like.
	It's that other layer of social connection.
	Because also they say that, oh, they're just gold diggers and it's all about money.
	No, no, no, that's stupid.
	Women aren't attracted to money.
	They're attracted to what the money represents.
	Thank you.
	Because money is a scorecard.
	The more money you have, the more you're winning at the game of life.
	Mm-hmm.
	But necessarily, it implies that the more money you have, the more successful you are in your social interactions, in your business, your career, or what have you.
	That's why it matters.
	If I walk around flashing a lot of $100 bills, no pretty girl is going to give me the time of day.
	But one fat little guy who's a big deal, and she knows that he's a big deal, talking to me, laughing with me, and looking forward to some meeting that we're going to have in a few days, is worth far more than $50,000 waved in her face.
	Yeah, it's it's women are attracted to.
	I've said this to like so many times where, you know, it's not the money that women are attracted to.
	It takes to earn the money that women are attracted to.
	This is why a millionaire is attracted to women, because if you were a millionaire, right, maybe not now, nowadays, because you can just, you know, get into crypto at the right time and pull out.
	But it used to be, right, if you were a millionaire, you had networking skills, you had social skills, you had a number of percent degree for you to be able to earn that money.
	You had some type of knowledge to be able to invest properly, etc.
	So women were attracted to the characteristics of making that money.
	And in the back, as you guys know, Gonzalo actually is in Ukraine, contrary to what all the haters do.
	And he's doing this podcast with us right now in the face of potentially getting bombed by the Russians.
	I got a great picture of the building next to mine got hit back in early September, like a Russian missile, and I can't post it publicly because it would reveal my location.
	Yeah.
	Because you can see the skyline very clearly.
	Because what happened was that there was a strike.
	I think it was September 9th, I think.
	I forget.
	I have it in my log.
	But anyway, the point is, the building right next to my apartment building, right next to where I am right now, got hit right on the roof.
	Right?
	It's a big fucking hole.
	And the thing is, see, the lights went out.
	So no elevator.
	So I went down the staircase.
	And you see, my apartment faces one direction.
	And the building that was hit was on the opposite direction.
	You see?
	Yeah.
	But the stairwell going down is on that opposite side.
	So I went down it, right?
	And in the 11th floor landing, I got this perfect shot.
	I'm actually looking at it right now.
	And I'll show it to you privately later because it's really cool.
	But you can't show it to anybody.
	No, of course, of course.
	Because it shows my location.
	Or you can deduce from the skyline my location.
	I don't want any crazies looking for me because I'm on the hit list.
	The hit list of people who are targeted for assassination by the crazy people.
	I don't want them to know where I live.
	The SVU knows where I live and I'm fine with them.
	But it's the crazies, the random crazies that worry me.
	But anyway, I got this perfect shot.
	It's this building with this big hole from the missile.
	All the windows blown out of the building, right?
	And I took a step back from the window of the stairwell that faces it, and you can see the shattered glass of the window.
	It's really cool, you know?
	And that happened right next to my building.
	It was just awesome, you know?
	I mean, well, I mean, you know, I live to tell the tale.
	That's why it's awesome.
	If it hit my building, then it wouldn't have been so awesome, now would it?
	So, Gonzalo, I got a question for you.
	A little bit of switching gears, right?
	So, you were living in New York City in the late 90s, early 2000s.
	You were in New York City for 9-11.
	Can you tell us...
	I missed it.
	You missed it?
	Okay.
	I missed it by 30 days.
	Exactly 30 days.
	I can tell you exactly where I was living.
	And you guys can look it up on Google Maps.
	I was living on 85 Pearl Street.
	Apartment number four.
	It was a big loft.
	What was rent back then?
	I was paying $4,500 a month for my apartment.
	Wow!
	Back then.
	Now it's like 15 grand at least.
	I mean, rents have gone through the roof way beyond inflation.
	They would be like, I guess, like 15, 20 grand today.
	But anyway, the point is...
	Yeah, it was 85 Pearl Street, apartment number four.
	I actually forgot the zip code.
	I think it was 1003, I think.
	But it doesn't matter.
	The point is, if you look at the map, it's three blocks away from the World Trade Center as the crows fly.
	And the thing is, see, it's really funny because it happened on a Tuesday, right?
	And on Tuesdays and Thursdays during the summer, And Tuesdays during the fall, there would be a farmer's market in the parking lot around the World Trade Center.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay.
	And I would go there on Tuesday mornings because I had a dog.
	And it was there that I got that ticket for walking the dog without the leash.
	And so anyway, I would walk the dog to the farmer's market and buy my weekly groceries there.
	Okay?
	And so on Tuesday, they probably would have been a farmer's market and, you know, probably would have gotten clobbered by debris or some falling body or some shit like that, you know?
	And so I kind of like, you know, on the one hand, I missed it by exactly 30 days.
	I had the stamp in my passport to prove it.
	I missed it by 30 days.
	But at the same time, I'm kind of like relieved that I missed it altogether.
	Oh, yeah.
	Because, you know, I had a lot of acquaintances.
	I had like three guys that I knew personally.
	I mean, I wouldn't call them friends' friends, but, you know, very friendly.
	The guys I met at the dog park in Battery Park, and they were killed.
	Oh, wow.
	In 9-11.
	So, yeah, there was that.
	Yeah.
	You know, it was, uh, the whole 9-11 thing, man.
	Oh, man.
	Go ahead.
	We're on Rumble.
	You can talk about it, man.
	I know, uh, people in the chat are already going wild about 9-11.
	I, I did a whole, I did a whole series on 9-11, so I'm fairly well versed on the topic with, you know, the 9-11 commission versus the, um, you know, the official and the unofficial narratives.
	Um, Ryan Dawson, I think, did an awesome interview with Sneeko where he talked about, um, Some Israeli involvement with 9-11 and you had some facts to back it up.
	What are your thoughts on it, man?
	I'll just kind of turn it to you and if we can let the conspiracy theories fly.
	Whatever you want to discuss.
	Well, what I have to say about 9-11 is that, number one, I am positive that a lot of the truther movement is actually a style by Israeli and American intelligence to muddy the waters, to poison the well.
	Okay?
	I think that a lot of bullshit, like, you know, Building 4 couldn't have fallen because of the debris and shit like that.
	That's bullshit, you know?
	Because debris like that, you see it on camera, and it looks like just specks of dust, right?
	But all that debris, okay?
	On camera, it looks like dust.
	He's building seven, guys.
	Don't worry.
	What?
	We're building seven, yeah.
	Yeah, building seven.
	You know, all that debris, okay?
	On camera, it looks like little specks of dust.
	The actual things are fucking boulders, okay?
	And it's a huge amount of debris and material, okay?
	So the fact that that building fell and everybody's saying, oh, it was a controlled demolition.
	I live there, man.
	And more to the point, I know people who lived in Las Vegas.
	Actually, my mother and my stepfather lived in Las Vegas for a time.
	And they actually went to see the demolition of some hotel, some shit like that, right?
	It's all kinds of involved, okay?
	It's not something that you can hide that shit, okay?
	So claiming that that was a controlled demolition and all that shit.
	The word I'm hearing from people who seem to be fairly plugged in The whole thing was financed by the Mossad.
	They're the ones who financed these guys to do it.
	Deliberately, with the intent of hitting these two buildings, Hitting all these locations because they wanted a Pearl Harbor moment so as to goad the United States into going to a war in the Middle East against Iraq, which the Israelis were just completely paranoid about.
	And there's a very interesting memo called Clean Break Memo.
	You should look it up.
	It outlines a strategy.
	It was written in the mid-90s by a bunch of Israeli-American thinkers.
	And it was basically a strategy for no more negotiation with Middle Eastern countries and just regime change across the board, across the Middle East, starting with Iraq and Syria and moving on to Iran eventually.
	And so...
	You know, the whole thing, it seems that it was like a Pearl Harbor moment deliberately created so as to go to the United States into going an all-out war in the Middle East, which is exactly what happened.
	I mean, after all these hijackers, which I believe, I mean, I'm positive that they were who they say they were, that they were all Saudi nationalists.
	But they didn't go after Saudi Arabia.
	They went after Iraq.
	That had absolutely nothing to do with the 9-11 thing.
	And they went to Afghanistan to find Bin Laden, who was supposed to be hiding out there.
	But if you look at the map, where's Afghanistan and where's Iraq?
	On either side of Iran.
	Because for the Israeli security, the issue has always been Iraq and Iran, especially.
	Because the Iranians have their number.
	They know who they're dealing with.
	And so the Iranians and the Israelis are sworn enemies.
	I mean, more of them, right?
	And so the 9-11, it seems very clear.
	You know, there's the dancing Israelis.
	There's the fact that there were all these financial moves in the options markets.
	Where some people made a shit ton of fucking money because they had insider information, because they optioned stocks of General Electric and certain insurance companies and airlines that were way out of the money that would pay off huge if there was a sudden drop in the price of those stocks, which is exactly what happened.
	It seems clear to me that it was an Israeli op To create a Pearl Harbor moment.
	And after the fact, all the truther movements should...
	I mean, we've even gotten to the stage where they're denying that the planes actually crashed into the World Trade Center.
	They're saying that, no, it was all CGI, which is just ridiculous.
	There are...
	Thousands of people who saw the second plane clearly hit the building.
	I mean, it was not CGI. Fuck off.
	But they're trying to muddy the waters so as to discredit all investigation of what probably actually happened.
	Because you've got to understand something.
	How do you suppress information?
	There are basically two ways.
	You can try to hide that particular data point.
	Or you can surround it with so many false data points that nobody knows where to start and nobody knows which one is the real important information, the important data point.
	You see what I mean?
	If you want to hide a needle, you don't put it in a haystack.
	You put the needle in a bunch of other needles, then it's never going to be found.
	Good point.
	And so, you know, a lot of the truther talk and all that shit, if it doesn't, if it's not discussing Israeli involvement in 9-11, then it's bullshit.
	It's simple as that.
	Yeah.
	You know, and when I was watching that interview with Sneeko and Ryan Dawson, which I think everybody here may have already seen or whatever, he made a lot of really good points.
	And one of the things he actually talked about was how, like, a lot of conspiracy theorists, what they've done is, especially with, like, the 9-11 situation, is...
	Their theories were so ludicrous that it hurt the quality of anyone else coming forward with some type of information.
	So when they came forward with the information like, hey, did you know that the World Trade Center was purchased by, I think the guy's name was Larry Silverstein, and he took out like a rare and strange terrorist policy.
	Actually, it wasn't strange.
	It was actually normal.
	It was actually a standard policy.
	Because remember, the World Trade Center had been hit in 94.
	Yes, 93.
	It was, yes.
	So it wasn't unusual.
	That's not the unusual part.
	And that Silverstein bought it a month before it happened, that was just dumb luck.
	All kinds of weird shit sometimes happens.
	For instance, when John Kennedy was assassinated, do you know that on the very day that he was assassinated, on that very morning, Richard Nixon, of all people, you know, the former presidential candidate, you know, he had run again in 68, right?
	This is 63.
	He arrived in Dallas on a plane.
	He was going to a business meeting.
	He had nothing to do with the killing of Kennedy.
	Nobody's ever alleging that.
	This is one of those weird coincidences that happened.
	Okay.
	That Silverstein bought it a month before this shit happened, that's a coincidence.
	The dancing Israelis thing, the options trades.
	Because years ago, somebody who was very sophisticated explained it to me.
	And he said that the options that were traded, options are bets on the future direction of a particular stock or the market overall.
	Just to simplify it.
	And somebody very sophisticated explained to me that somebody who bet out of the money, that is out of the probable range of the price of those particular stocks, who bet so much out of the money, that was just a red flag.
	And that told them that somebody knew.
	I mean, a lot of people must have known to have made those bets.
	And so you connect the dots like who's plugged in financially, And who's plugged in to some op like this, assuming it's like Mossad or the Israelis?
	And, you know, you kind of like connect the dots and it becomes pretty obvious.
	I do want to say this, too, as well.
	We had Andrew Bustamanzean, former CIA officer, and he's...
	Oh, that guy with the frizzy hair?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, sorry.
	That guy is...
	I'm positive that that guy is a deliberate plant.
	A disinformation specialist.
	I'll tell you that right now.
	I don't give a fuck.
	And if he sees this, I could care less.
	I saw him on Lex Friedman.
	That was a fucking clue.
	Lex Friedman is a controlled alpha, like Ben Shapiro.
	And if Bustamante went on his show, it's because he was put there to put out a specific narrative on certain issues.
	The CIA is kind of like the mafia.
	You're never, ever truly out.
	That guy.
	I mean, I don't know if he's a friend of yours or you just had him on, but I'll say, I mean, anything he says, it's got an ulterior motive, and he's trying to shape some narrative.
	I'll say that right now.
	I mean, I've never met the guy, never interacted with the guy, but I can spot a bullshitter when I see it, probably because I'm so good at bullshit myself.
	I'm telling you, that guy, no, no, uh-uh.
	Okay, well, the one thing...
	No, tell me what he said.
	I'm interested.
	Yeah, because he did say one interesting thing that I think, even though you're skeptical of him, which is fair in itself, you know, obviously, you know, I respect your viewpoint.
	One thing that he did say that stuck out to me that I thought was very interesting was the capability of the Mossad and how they're very underrated, yet they're probably one of the biggest threats as an intelligence agency.
	Yeah, that's accurate.
	So that's one thing that...
	I mean, they were running the Epstein show.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So I thought that was really interesting.
	Sorry, continue.
	Yeah, because like, for instance, Ghislaine Maxwell, right?
	Her father was Robert Maxwell, and he died in 91, I believe.
	Yes.
	But she was a grown woman by that time.
	I mean, I think that she's roughly my age, right?
	Yeah.
	And so when Robert Maxwell died, see, Robert Maxwell was plugged into Israeli intelligence.
	At his funeral, six current and former heads of Israeli intelligence showed up to pay their respects, okay?
	Yes.
	I don't think that many, you know, intelligence chiefs are going to, former current intelligence chiefs are going to show up at your funeral or mine.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So he was obviously a big deal to them.
	And he was.
	He ran guns for the Israelis back in 48, before independence.
	You know, he was a big deal.
	And so Ghislaine Maxwell is plugged in.
	Okay.
	And now the word I'm hearing about, what's his name?
	Epstein.
	Okay.
	That Epstein, you know, he started as a math teacher in the Dalton school.
	And apparently he was like a pedophile, like a real pedophile from an early age, right?
	And then he moved over to Bear Stearns.
	Now that leap is fucking like, what the fuck?
	I mean, I have enough of a...
	I personally have never worked at a financial institution, but my family is all into banking and shit.
	And so I know the lay of the land.
	To go from being a school teacher at a private school to working at Bear Stearns as an analyst?
	What the fuck, man?
	That seems weird.
	The story I'm hearing is that it wasn't a blackmail operation per se.
	It was more subtle than that.
	It was basically a network of people who would swap favors and they were all tied into Petto Island and all that shit.
	That's the basic word that I hear.
	For instance, I mean, I don't want to personalize it by saying you are me.
	Let's say, like, John Smith is a congressman, right?
	John Smith.
	And he goes to Petto Island and he bangs some 15-year-old girl where the fuck, right?
	And so, John Smith, right?
	He's a congressman.
	And so, there's Steve over there.
	Okay, who's also going to Pedow Island, you know, and is part of a club.
	And Steve says to Ghislaine, he tells Ghislaine, look, you know, there's a bill that's going to come up in Congress that I really need it to pass because it will affect my business in a very positive way.
	It represents like a billion dollars from me or some shit like that.
	Yep.
	And so Ghislaine will say, okay, no problem.
	So she calls up John Smith, the Congressman John Smith, and tells Congressman Smith, hey, you know, it would be really great that this bill that's coming up, why don't you vote yes?
	It doesn't affect you.
	You know, it's a minor bill, but it'll help somebody else.
	Hello, are you there?
	No, I got you.
	I got you.
	How about the bills?
	Yep.
	So, you know, it doesn't cost John anything.
	And, you know, he's had such fun times at Petro Island with Ghislaine and the gang, right?
	So he's like, sure.
	And he votes yes on the bill.
	You see?
	And then later, you know, maybe a year later or whatever, John Smith finds himself in a tough re-election.
	You know, he's got a primary opponent or some shit like that.
	And he doesn't have much cash, right, for the re-election.
	So he calls up Ghislaine.
	And he says, Glenn, you know, I really have a rough going insofar as this re-election.
	Can you help me out?
	And Glenn says, sure.
	And she turns to Steve that, you know, or some other guy of this network and organizes a few of them to chip in, you know, a million each, which is chump change to these guys, to fund some super PAC. That is independent of John Smith, the candidate, but will buy advertising and do all kinds of promotion for Congressman John Smith so that he wins his re-election.
	So you see, it's not that, you know, you went to Pedo Island and so Ghislaine calls you up and says, okay, give us a hundred grand or we'll reveal pictures of you fucking some 15 year old.
	No, it doesn't work that way.
	It's just a network of swapping favors where everybody is guilty in the network.
	Of these actions of pedophilia and whatnot, but they all swap favors with each other because they're all part of this club.
	They're equally incriminated.
	It's exactly like the mob.
	See, the mob, when they want you to make your bones, right?
	And the famous phrase from the Godfather, what they want is to have incriminating evidence against you.
	So that you'll always be loyal to the group, to the mafia family.
	That's the point of it.
	And so that way you'll always be a loyal soldier, a part of the family.
	That was a scheme of the whole Epstein, you know, Petto Island shit.
	Actually, it was Eric Weinstein, you know, that gadfly online.
	Who clued me into something really obvious that I should have realized earlier because it's so fucking obvious.
	The lifestyle that Epstein was living.
	Okay, so he had some ranch in Santa Fe or New Mexico.
	A big ranch, right?
	He had like a big house in New York City, Manhattan on Fifth Avenue.
	The largest mansion on Fifth Avenue.
	He had his island.
	He had...
	What you call it?
	A big spread in Palm Beach, right?
	And he had a plane.
	See, that's the lifestyle of a guy who's got like 10 billion.
	Not like one or two.
	It's too expensive.
	Because a lot of people think that somebody who's got a billion dollars, he can afford that.
	No, no.
	Because see, that billion dollars is not cash on hand.
	It's invested in stuff.
	And that stuff produces an income.
	But not as much as you'd think.
	Yeah, it's not liquid.
	Yeah, a billion dollars, which sounds like a shit ton of money.
	If you're doing very well after taxes and everything, maybe you'll clear 5%, maybe 7%.
	Returns have been very tough over the last 15 years, but let's just say 7% of a billion dollars.
	That's $70 million.
	That sounds like a lot of money.
	$70 million a year, I bet you and me, we could have a high old time with $70 million a year, right?
	But the thing is, see, for that level of lifestyle, that chews up money like there's no tomorrow.
	Absolutely, it does.
	Absolutely.
	So to think that he could afford that lifestyle on $70 million a year, no, it's not going to happen.
	He'd need a lot more.
	He'd need an income of at least $150 million would be enough for that lifestyle.
	And so that automatically clues you in.
	I mean, the jet fuel is probably a million a month on its own.
	I don't know how much it is specifically, but it's going to be up there.
	Because all these places, they have staffing, they have maintenance repairs, they have security.
	Security takes a huge chunk of the shit like that.
	So all of a sudden, if you told me that his petto island was costing him...
	I mean, I would guesstimate, and this is just me flipping about it, but I don't think that he could get away with a petto island, just the island.
	For under $2 million a month.
	$25 million a year.
	Because it's the staffing and the security and maintenance and just the normal upkeep.
	It's expensive.
	It piles up fast.
	So Eric Weinstein was the guy who pointed out what should have been obvious.
	That no way could somebody who had a net worth of like $1 or $2 billion could have afforded that lifestyle.
	No fucking way.
	And where did he get the money?
	And on top of that, there's something else too.
	He was supposed to be managing money, but nobody has any record of a counterparty making the trades.
	No one really could explain what the hell he did.
	That's another thing about Epstein that was very strange.
	He was a financial advisor.
	Okay, who's he advising?
	Whose money is he managing?
	Back in 08, starting in 07 and through 2010, he was managing some money.
	Not a hell of a lot.
	You know, it was in the tens of millions.
	But there was a huge fucking paper trail.
	Yeah, inevitably, any trade that I made running this money, I had to, you know, there was all kinds of paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit, you know, on movies and shit, they just make a call and make the trade.
	But they don't tell you how the lawyers later have to go through all these trades and do the proper paperwork and all kinds of bureaucratic shit for these trades.
	So the fact that there's no paper trail for Epstein's trades, even though he was supposed to be managing money, What the fuck?
	That doesn't make any sense.
	So, yeah.
	Yeah, he was a front.
	He was a front.
	And he was financed by a foreign government, likely the Israelis, or likely, much more likely, actually, than the Israeli government itself.
	It was probably, you know, Israeli-American business people who were putting together the cash to keep the whole thing going so as to maintain this operation.
	Do you think Epstein was Mossad?
	No, but Delaney Maxwell, I don't think she's formally Mossad, but she's so connected that she might as well have been.
	No, I think that he was just a front.
	He was middle management.
	I think that his real skill was in brainwashing these girls into being his sex slaves.
	That was his skill.
	And that's why he was put into that position.
	Yeah.
	It's really funny.
	I was talking to a girlfriend, an ex-girlfriend, a few months ago.
	It was like a junior or something like that.
	And she was like, holy shit, you're in Ukraine!
	Anyway, the point is, because when I was arrested, I lost all access to my former accounts, and I had to restart all the accounts and emails from memory and shit like that.
	And I remembered her email because it was just a memorable one.
	And so I texted her, this is my new email, and we got in touch, you know, Zoom call and whatnot.
	And the thing is, she told me, we haven't been in touch in a number of years, okay?
	And she's, great to hear from you.
	I can't believe you're in Ukraine, blah, blah.
	And she told me, you met Epstein.
	And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
	No!
	And she described the party I went to.
	And she remembered it very, very clearly.
	And so apparently I did meet Epstein, although I have no memory of it.
	But if a picture of me surfaces from like 99, 2000...
	Of me having a cocktail with this ex-girlfriend and Epstein, I was never in Pedo Island.
	I never got invited.
	Yeah, you weren't cool enough.
	No!
	No!
	God damn it!
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	So we talked about...
	You also mentioned something very interesting as well.
	And, you know, once again, shout out to Dawson.
	He did a good documentary, talked to NUMEC. And something that a lot of people don't talk about or know...
	Is that a lot of Israelis in the United States were caught for gunrunning and moving weapons to Israel post-World War II with all the surplus of weapons through South America into Israel.
	And, you know, Maxwell was part of that.
	Robert Maxwell.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and there's documents, there's FBI reports on this that were declassified that showed that there was an entire gun-running organization from the United States through South America done by the American mafia, the Jewish mafia, and business owners in the United States.
	And this has not really been reported on at all.
	So, you know, there's a lot of things that, you know, typically are not going to be put out in mainstream media for obvious reasons.
	But that's something that I thought was very interesting as well that I did not know about this, this gun running venture in the 40s.
	That's where Maxwell, Robert Maxwell, Gillian's father, that's how he got connected and plugged in with Israeli intelligence, because he was running guns.
	And look, I don't have a problem with it because he considered it his patriotic duty or his duty to his religion.
	And that's perfectly fine.
	Look, how can I put it?
	There are some crimes that I understand completely and I don't have a problem with.
	You have a nascent nation like the Israeli state in 1948 after the partition and all that.
	And, you know, some people who are Jewish, who are sympathetic to the state of Israel, extremely sympathetic, and consider it their homeland and they want to protect it and they run guns, don't have a problem with that at all.
	I mean, it's something that I do.
	I mean, if there was a Chilean diaspora and Chile found a new place, a new home somewhere, And yeah, if I had any possibility to help in any way that I could, it means running guns or something, I'd certainly do it.
	Sure, I don't have a problem with that on a moral level.
	What I do have a problem with is creating a network of a little circle of favor swapping based on pedophilia and basically raping little girls.
	The famous story is, of course, of Bill Gates and his particular proclivity.
	Fair enough.
	No, that's something fucking interesting.
	The story, the word I'm hearing, I don't have a problem saying it.
	The word I'm hearing is that Bill Gates loves to deflower post-pubescent girls.
	That's why he went over 20 times to Peto Island.
	Because Epstein was supplying him with his favorite treat, if you will.
	And when, what's her name, his wife divorced him suddenly, it was because she found out.
	Mm-hmm.
	Wow.
	That makes sense.
	That's a nasty piece of work.
	He's a fucking scumbag.
	He's a real dirtbag.
	And sexual degenerate.
	Look, I don't mind if a guy is chasing pussy.
	Like DiCaprio chasing this 19-year-old.
	Good on him.
	She's a grown woman.
	You can tell.
	So, fine.
	Chasing pussy, that's fine.
	But doing shit to children or girls who have no interest in this bullshit and being manipulated and forced and raped?
	Fuck that.
	That's just fucking evil.
	That's my take on this whole situation.
	If somebody gets around, gets together with his buds, you know, and they snort cocaine and bang a bunch of overage models, good on them, you know?
	I mean, shit, why didn't you invite me, motherfucker?
	But, like, you know, doing nasty shit to really innocent children.
	That's what we're talking about here.
	That's fucking despicable.
	That's fucking despicable.
	Agreed.
	That is definitely unacceptable.
	I will say this.
	Guys, we've been going for a while now.
	I need you guys to like the video.
	Also, real fast, go ahead and subscribe to Gonzalo's YouTube channels.
	Gonzalo Lira, again, link is below, as well as the Roundtable of Gonzalo Lira, where he has a bunch of geopolitical talks on there.
	And he also goes into detail about the conflict in Ukraine.
	Ukraine, you get a lot of wisdom, et cetera, on his channels.
	Then obviously you got the legacy channels like Coach Red Pill, everything else like that.
	And we've been talking about everything.
	We've been talking about the Ukraine conflict, feminism, transgenders, homosexuals, society collapsing.
	We're talking about 9/11, Israeli involvement, everything that you guys want to hear, man.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah, we would have been done back when we talked about 9-11.
	And once you mentioned the dancing Israelis, that was...
	That was pretty much curtains, right?
	Yeah.
	Gonzalez, let me ask you this, though.
	What are your thoughts on Kanye West and the current backlash that he's been getting for his comments and statements?
	Well, this is what I think about the Kanye situation, see?
	See, he pointed out some people who are very powerful...
	You know, he named people who are very powerful.
	Yeah.
	Those people said, I can't believe you're saying how powerful we are.
	So we are going to use our power to destroy you.
	Yeah.
	It kind of proved his point now, didn't it?
	Yep.
	He got canceled.
	And, you know, if you want to know who's in power, think about who you can't criticize.
	There's your answer.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	And so, yeah, I mean, I think that it was just deeply, amusingly ironic, right?
	I mean, I'm not going to be crying for the guy, because even though he doesn't have two billion anymore, you know, he's still got a few hundred million probably, you know?
	I mean, It's clear, though, that the guy is a little bit nuts, and it's clear, too, that the people around him were manipulating his mental illness in order to get advantage out of him.
	There was that trainer of his, a Jewish fellow, I understand, who basically sent him some direct messages saying, you know, if you don't play ball, we're going to put you on the meds again like the last time.
	Holy fucking shit.
	And let me say this, too, in regards to Kanye West, because my thing with Kanye West is that I think he's misunderstood.
	And the thing is that there's two different realms here.
	And I think people don't understand that when you're a musician, you're able to say what you want to say.
	And the whole part of being a musician and being an artist is unrestricted speech.
	And it typically is done through the realm of maybe a paintbrush, maybe music, maybe art, maybe sculpture, whatever it is.
	Whatever your medium of art is.
	Is you're able to express yourself freely, which is why art is the way that it is and why people love it so much because it's freedom of expression, correct?
	However, when it comes to spoken word, being able to articulate yourself and most importantly, being able to articulate yourself from a perspective of maybe on a podcast or some kind of platform where you're trying to convey an idea, you have to be able to say it in a certain way where you hit your points and it's nice and concise.
	This is why Andrew Tate is so powerful, because he's a very eloquent and good speaker.
	He's able to say what he needs to say.
	And the only way you can get him is you have to take him out of context with TikTok clips.
	But if you watch an interview front to back with Andrew Tate, you really can't refute anything he says.
	Now, here's the issue of Kanye West that I've noticed.
	Kanye West, I would say, is more like a machine gun.
	He says the truth, he says what people want to say, but he's hitting a bunch of other things at the same time because he's not being able to convey himself in the proper way because he still has an artist mindset.
	However...
	Someone like Andrew Tate is a sniper.
	He's able to say exactly what he's trying to say, right?
	Be direct.
	Be concise about it.
	And unless you take him out of context with TikTok clips, you're going to agree with what he has to say.
	So with Kanye West, I think that he's not wrong.
	It's just that he needs to work on his ability to articulate his points in a concise manner where it can't be misinterpreted.
	where they love to take what you said and misinterpret it so that they can get offended and use it as an excuse or a guise to get rid of you.
	I think that's where Kanye was kind of fell into this.
	I have a different view of Kanye.
	I tend to look at him as the holy fool.
	Okay.
	The holy fool in mythology is the fool is a line to God.
	I mean, I personally, unfortunately, I'm not a believer.
	You said he's the holy fool.
	Can you repeat that last part there so everyone knows what you're talking about?
	I said that in medieval literature, there's the holy fool, especially in orthodox Christianity.
	The holy fool is the fool who Who has a direct line to God, who tells the truth, okay?
	And I'm saying that I personally do not believe in God, and I have no truck with believers.
	I wish I believed, because I think that my life would be a lot happier in many respects.
	But unfortunately, I'm not so blessed.
	But the concept remains of the holy fool, and I think that Kanye West is that.
	He is the man who is wildly talented, and he's basically a fool.
	Not a fool like a stupid person, but rather like a fool like the court jester, like somebody who runs around, and he acts kind of crazy, but what he says...
	Is many times very true.
	It's like he's dialed in to the truth as revealed by God.
	That's where the concept comes from.
	And so a lot of times, yeah, of course, he'll say things that seem nonsensical and just stupid and do stupid shit.
	Like when he showed up on Alex Jones' show, dressed up with a balaclava over his head and shit like that.
	You're like, what the fuck is this guy doing?
	And if you look at him, if you compare him to somebody like Andrew Tate, who's much more together, who's much more direct, And much more precise.
	Then you're going to say about Kanye, oh, you know, Kanye is just fucking it up.
	But if you look at him from the context of the Holy Fool, and I would recommend for your viewers to Google the concept of the Holy Fool, okay?
	I insist, it's not saying that somebody's stupid.
	It's just like this crazy person who tells the truth because he's touched by God.
	Yeah, and it's undefined.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And sometimes it's like you said, it's like a machine gun fire.
	It hits all over the fucking place.
	But occasionally it hits right on the money.
	And you're like, fuck yeah, that guy hit it right on the money.
	And that's the thing about Kanye.
	And I think that Kanye's life is, I think, is unfortunately destined for suffering.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I wish him nothing but the best.
	Yeah.
	I personally don't like his music.
	I find it tedious, to tell you the truth.
	You know, I mean, full disclosure.
	But insofar as what he says and the crazy...
	I saw that interview, the whole thing that he gave to those two interviewers.
	I forget the name of the show.
	I'd never heard it before, but it popped up on 4chan, and I was like, okay, I'll go check this out when it happened.
	And I'm like, fuck, man, he's saying this shit?
	He's going to get into a shitload of trouble.
	And he did, you know?
	He was, you know, he was the holy fool who pointed to the fact of who really runs shit.
	Yeah.
	And he was punished for it.
	And he was punished egregiously, you know?
	So, yeah, I think that...
	Poor Kanye.
	I mean, I feel bad for the guy.
	I can't say that I respect him.
	I mean, I would certainly respect a guy like Andrew Tate a lot more because Andrew Tate knows more or less what he's doing.
	He had an unlucky break.
	Whereas Kanye, like I said, he's a holy fool.
	You can't respect or disrespect him.
	You just have to stand back in awe of this man who's doing all this stuff and saying all these things.
	That really hurt him, but it's what he believes to be the truth as he feels it revealed to himself.
	And so on that level, I respect it, if you will.
	Okay.
	But does he have like a plan?
	Does he have like, you know, it's part of like 4D chess or some shit like that?
	No, he's just shooting from the hip.
	Yeah.
	Whatever comes into his head, it just goes right out.
	Yeah.
	And that's something that, you know, it's very, very dangerous to the holy fool.
	Because if you look historically, the men who have been considered holy fools, they always end badly.
	And I'm afraid that this modern day holy fool, again, to reiterate, I'm not putting him down.
	I'm not saying he's stupid or something like that.
	Not at all.
	He's very smart.
	I know a guy who went to school with him in Chicago.
	He went to this private school and he was a bright kid.
	He's smart.
	He's got IQ points, but he's a little bit off his rocker, but in that touched by God kind of way.
	Gotcha.
	Where he gets this shit from the ether or whatever and just spits it out.
	Oh, man.
	It's just remarkable.
	And well, I think that also that they made an example out of Kanye West so nobody else gets any ideas.
	Yeah.
	Let me ask you this, Gonzalo.
	Why do you think there's a push?
	Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
	How many people do we have so far?
	We got 9,700 people watching live.
	We've pretty much been coasting at around 10,000 to 11,000 the entire show on Rumble.
	Cool.
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	Make sure to go ahead and subscribe to Gonzalo Lira again on YouTube, guys.
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	I always do updates on Twitter.
	I'm constantly updating Twitter.
	Because once I got back on the platform, man, that stuff's like heroin, man.
	I'm addicted again, you know?
	But yeah, so you can definitely check me out on Twitter, you know, subscribe to me there.
	Okay, but anyway, I'm sorry I interrupted you.
	No, no, no, no worries.
	No worries.
	And I think we can have differing points on Kanye West.
	I think that's fantastic.
	Differing points always creates...
	I'm curious.
	What do you think of Kanye?
	Well, just basically, I agree with you about, you know, the machine gun analogy that I stated before, whatever.
	I think my thing is just that he's not necessarily lying.
	He just needs to be able to convey his ideas in a better realm because the problem is that he's conveying his ideas like an artist versus as a speaker.
	As an artist, you're afforded a lot more wiggle room with being able to articulate your thoughts than you are as an open-word speaker.
	Because you have to say things in a certain way on a public forum, whether it be a podcast or an interview, whatever it may be, that you're not necessarily as confined with doing music and art.
	Future said in a song famously, Stick Talk, I don't got no manners for no sluts.
	I'm going to put my thumb in her butt.
	Well, that sounds great with a beat.
	Right?
	And, you know, a chorus.
	Woo!
	That'll be great.
	Could you imagine if he said that on an interview, though?
	And I think that's where Kanye West needs to be able to draw that he can't use that same artistic freedom when he does interviews and podcasts because people are going to put it in a certain way, especially when he's talking about something as sensitive as anything that deals with the certain people.
	You know what I'm saying?
	Now, with that said, real quick, Gonzalo, what are your thoughts?
	Why do you think Anyone that speaks out against this, well, not necessarily speaks out, but let's say they convey any thoughts or ideas that talk about this, right, are immediately silenced.
	I mean, hell, we were on Rumble talking about this because if we talked about this on YouTube, right, we'd be gone, even though everything we said is factual.
	It's documented and proven.
	It's not like, oh, theory, blah, blah, blah.
	When it comes to...
	No, some of the things I've said are not provable or have not been proven.
	I'm out with the 9-11 stuff.
	I'm out with the 9-11 stuff.
	For instance, the stuff I was telling about Bill Gates, which as far as I know is absolutely true, there's no proof at this time.
	I'm at 9-11, my bad.
	I'm always careful when I say things that I know for a fact.
	We were talking about before in the broadcast about What do you call it?
	Casualty figures.
	And I was very explicit as to where my sources for these casualty figures were, because that's real information.
	I don't want it to be sounding like I'm talking out of my ass.
	I'm telling you, you can go to this guy and go to this news organization to get these figures, and so it's accurate.
	But yeah, and so I'm always careful to make that bright dividing line between stuff that I can show you and you can go check out for yourself or stuff that I have heard and you can take it or leave it as you see fit.
	But anyway, why are people cancelled?
	Yeah, because you see, the repression is starting up because the people in power recognize that their grip is slipping.
	Because the United States, I mean, come on, let's face back.
	The United States, as a country, it's going down the fucking tubes.
	It's not just that people are all fat and the women are entitled.
	It's that the infrastructure is decaying.
	The cities are becoming unlivable, unaffordable.
	People aren't having more children.
	You have this flood of migrants, and nobody really knows who the fuck are these people.
	Yeah.
	You said no one knows who these people are.
	You cut off.
	You cut off.
	Yeah, I said no one knows who these people are.
	It's not families with children and grannies and shit.
	It's mostly guys.
	Guys who are of military fighting age.
	What the fuck is going on here?
	Everybody recognizes that the United States is collapsing as a nation, let alone as a global empire.
	And so the people who are running shit, they recognize it on a fundamental level.
	And they either don't know how to fix it or don't want to fix it.
	It doesn't matter because in the end, they're not fixing it.
	And so, you know, the whole shit show is going up in flames.
	As I said before, you know, an empire collapses slowly at first and then all at once.
	And so this is the stage we're at.
	And so there's going to be more repressive measures as we progress in this collapse.
	It's going to get a lot worse.
	I mean, shitloads worse before we get to the final collapse.
	And that final collapse is going to be, it's going to be total collapse.
	It's going to be a collapse of the currency, which is already happening very quickly now.
	And we're going to see a collapse of social order and just rioting and people are going to start banding together to protect each other and protect their property.
	And that's why they're going after white nationalists or so-called white nationalists because they're not white nationalists.
	They're just people who want to look after their shit and protect themselves because the country in the United States is still a majority white country.
	And so it's just the majority that wants to take care of their shit.
	And they have legitimate grievances that have been going on for decades now, and nobody's been addressing them.
	You've got to keep in mind, if you go back to Ross Perot's run for president back in 1992, He was like the proto-Trump.
	He articulated a lot of the problems of the working classes in the United States and how the leadership class weren't addressing them and weren't doing anything to solve the problems of working classes.
	And see, these problems from 92, not only have they not been addressed, they've gotten a shit ton worse in the last 30 odd years.
	And so, you know, you've got to understand that the people in power now, they realize that the shit show is going up in flames.
	And so in order to hold on to power, They are doing more and more repressive measures.
	And it's going to get worse, a lot worse, before it gets any better.
	And there are going to be a lot more people who are going to get cancelled.
	Look, you guys, for instance, you'll probably get cancelled at some point.
	And you should be preparing for it.
	And myself, sure.
	I'm kind of like a minor miracle that I'm still around.
	Probably because I'm small enough.
	I'm at once small enough not to have a big impact.
	But my being totally cancelled would make enough noise that I'm not cancelled.
	So I'm in that sweet spot of being irrelevant, but too relevant to actually do anything to.
	We're all going to go.
	I learned from Andrew Tate, right, that if you get too big with this type of mindset, you will get canceled.
	I mean, I say worse things than Andrew a lot of the times.
	I think what Andrew says is very factual and direct and to the point.
	And, you know, me, I might illustrate things a little bit more that might be a bit more offensive.
	And the fact that I'm still here and he's not just goes to show that if you get too big and you have any type of based mindset, they will cancel you.
	And it's, you know, I mean, he's, you know, let's talk about COVID for a second here.
	It literally had the world locked down, right?
	For the fucking flu, right?
	And now people are vaxxed and all this other crap.
	And realistically speaking, we got people dropping dead.
	I know you've been pretty outspoken when it comes to the jab-jab.
	You know, Pfizer coming out saying that they...
	An undercover reporter, I was on Sneeko's stream looking at this.
	this this guy was talking about how they were experimenting with covet to mutate it so that they can go ahead and come in with other vaccines which obviously would make them more money um you know the hell the whole big pharma people are foolish but they don't think that they're creating things to go ahead and make get more money out of you that's why i'm so big on living a healthy lifestyle not using medicine etc because uh and here's a problem you know Here's the problem with all the shit show going on.
	When you go to the leaders, you look up the leaders of the CEOs and the big kahunas of Pfizer and all the rest of them, right?
	And you go to their Wikipedia entry, go to early life, and you'll find something that they all have in common.
	And people are noticing.
	And so the backlash is going to be fucking fierce.
	And I think that on a fundamental level, perhaps these people recognize that that's in the cards and they're getting very, very nervous about it.
	And they're trying to start to protect themselves from the inevitable backlash.
	And what's interesting is that the backlash is starting with people of color.
	People of color who are lashing out.
	Kanye is just the tip of the spear.
	Because a lot of people of color, people of African American descent, people of Mexican American descent, Central American descent, They're noticing.
	They know who their landlord is.
	They know who they have to pay the money to or else they get into trouble.
	They know who runs the banks.
	And they're the ones who are starting to make noise.
	And interestingly enough, the majority white working classes, they can't bring themselves to this because they've been so indoctrinated over the years.
	Never again in all this.
	And all the post-World War II propaganda.
	As if, you know, this particular group of people were the only people who suffered during World War II. Tons of people suffered.
	Like, the gypsies got wiped out.
	Period.
	Okay?
	But nobody even talks about the gypsies because they don't have any influence in the United States.
	Yeah.
	And so what happens is that I think that people are realizing that the backlash is coming and it's going to be fucking fierce.
	And it's going to come, you know, principally from people of color.
	Because they have the most resentment towards these people who are lording it over them.
	And, you know, it's going to get fucking ugly.
	I mean, really fucking ugly.
	What are your thoughts on the vaccine and COVID and big pharma in general?
	Well, the whole fucking thing is a fucking scam.
	When COVID hit, I was like way ahead of the curve, okay?
	Because I started hearing about this in January of 2020, okay?
	From 4chan.
	And also there was a guy called Mr.
	Medeker, who was a big internet personality.
	He dropped out of the scene, but he did like a series of remarkable streams talking about this shit because he was kind of like hypochondriac.
	And he talked about it a lot.
	And I got ahead of that curve.
	And what happened to me, I thought to myself, you know, this is going to be an incredible business opportunity, because if there is like some sort of global pandemic or something or something big like this that's happening in China, Then the supply chains are going to get seriously disrupted.
	So I put a lot of shorts on a number of companies.
	I remember very clearly, I was vacationing with my family in Switzerland.
	It was a Monday, February 6th, I think it was.
	It was the first Monday of February because we had gone to Zermatt in Switzerland.
	And we were supposed to go skiing.
	And I was on the phone with my bankers trying to put shorts on a whole bunch of companies.
	And they were the best bets of my life because I was a little bit out of the money.
	But these options just went through the roof.
	I made a shit ton of fucking money.
	And my counterparties bought them back from me because they were so scared of the losses that they were accruing that they bought back the options Uh, at the exact bottom of the market, which for me was like the top of the market, it was because I was selling short.
	That meant that I was betting that the markets would go down.
	These stocks would go down.
	Yeah.
	And so, yeah, I remember very clearly March 15th, I got the call.
	I was in Amsterdam at the time and I got the call from, um, From the representative of my counterparties.
	And he was saying, we'll buy them all off of you.
	Because they were so lucrative for me.
	And I sold them.
	It was like, now or never.
	And the guy told me, now or never.
	Because we're just going through all our options books.
	And we're scooping up these trades because we're getting fucked.
	And so I was like, okay, fine, I'll sell them, okay?
	And it was the best trade of my life.
	I improved my net worth by over 23%, 24%.
	Wow!
	It was the one, you know, the best bet of my life.
	Because the next day, the market started shooting up because the Federal Reserve started pumping money into the markets to keep the whole thing afloat, okay?
	So it was like the one, I've made two great bets in my life.
	That was one.
	And that was pure luck.
	That was pure luck.
	I can't say that I was smart.
	Because my thinking was correct, but I didn't realize how bad the markets would tame.
	Can you say what you started for the people so they kind of know?
	It's up to you.
	You don't have to disclose it if you don't want to.
	I mean, it's passed now, three years ago at this point.
	No, it was just a panoply of tech companies.
	Okay, tech companies reported.
	Yeah, because I recognize that a lot of the tech companies would suffer drops in stock market prices because if there was a supply chain interruption, that consumer products, Apple and such, because they'd suffer supply chain issues and that would curtail their availability of product and this would bring down their stock prices precipitously.
	And it was just blind luck because I made the right bet Based on incorrect information, okay?
	So I can't say that I was that smart because I never thought that the hysteria over COVID would get that bad.
	Okay.
	What did you anticipate would happen when it was going down?
	Did you think the shutdowns were going to happen and just be short?
	Or did you think it was going to be maybe a month, two months?
	What were your thoughts back then?
	Well, first of all, I never thought that there'd be a lockdown.
	I remember the moment, the exact moment that I was like, what the fuck is going on here?
	Are we seeing Armageddon?
	And that was when I boarded a plane in Poland.
	I was flying from Kharkov back to Amsterdam because I was working on a project there.
	And it was...
	Very early March or perhaps the last day of February, I forget.
	But anyway, the point is I was on a plane and some policemen, Polish policemen, because the plane went from Kharkov to Warsaw and then I took a connecting flight from Warsaw to Amsterdam.
	And I'm in the plane in Warsaw and these Polish policemen come with that gun to measure your temperature.
	And they started measuring everybody's temperature.
	I'm like, holy fuck.
	This is real.
	This is real.
	A real pandemic or some shit.
	Because up to that point, I was sort of thinking to myself, this might be bullshit.
	It might be, you know...
	Who knows?
	Do keep in mind those options that I made, they represented relatively little money in terms of expenses.
	The payoff was so huge that it improved my position that much.
	But the money I actually put in was very low because it was so out of the money that it just multiplied the return.
	But anyway, the point is when I got on the plane and they started taking people's temperature, that's when I think, shit, this is global.
	And then I got to Amsterdam and the whole fucking city is locked down.
	And I just decided to go on as if nothing's happening.
	I kept on going to my office and like, you know, this will blow over.
	And I started noticing that it was bullshit because I was living in Amsterdam and I was living on the canal area.
	And there were some like hippie homeless guys near where I lived.
	I would walk to my office, which was about a mile and a half away or so.
	And I'd walk to my office, you know, stretch the legs, that sort of thing.
	And I would pass these junky homeless whores and so forth.
	I mean, lowlife people.
	Typical, you know, one block in Amsterdam is really nice.
	One block is like not so nice, right?
	But they were very friendly, hippy, junky, homeless people.
	And I'd ask them, you know, how's it going?
	Fine.
	And I thought, you know, no homeless people are done.
	See, the homeless people, junkies, they don't take care of themselves.
	They get sick with whatever, and it can be very, very serious.
	And they were perfectly fine.
	And that's when I started thinking to myself, this is bullshit.
	I mean, at the time, I was really fucking scared, okay?
	Because I was stuck in Amsterdam.
	I couldn't fly back to Kharkov because they canceled all the flights.
	And I was thinking to myself, you know, I'm far from my wife and the two kids.
	And, you know, if something happens to them.
	And I was, you know, calling up Kharkov trying to figure out a way how to get ventilators.
	Because they were saying that ventilators are the only solution.
	And if somebody, they need a ventilator to survive.
	And I was thinking, shit, if it gets this bad, it would be smart to have a ventilator or two.
	So that, you know, if one or two of the kids or my wife or whatever gets sick.
	You know, I mean, I was freaking the fuck out like everybody else.
	Because it was just like, you know, it's a pandemic.
	It's, you know, the big one.
	No one knew anything.
	So I understand.
	It was literally like no one knew what the hell was going on.
	I remember Miami shut down the first week of March.
	On or about March 7th, the entire city locked down.
	Florida locked down.
	And yeah, it was wild.
	And remember, this was around the time that I was talking to my counterparties.
	And they were telling me, look, we want to take all these bets off the table.
	Because I was also thinking at the time, look, if things get really bad, maybe my counterparty goes broke and won't be able to pay me off.
	So better to get the money now.
	Yeah, of course.
	And that was part of my calculation because I was thinking this shit is like a global pandemic.
	I mean, this is the big one, right?
	But it was the homeless people in Amsterdam.
	Into early April, that's when I realized this is bullshit.
	This is not real.
	This is just hysteria.
	That's when I really realized it.
	And then in December, when I heard about the warp speed program and the jab, and I'm like, wait a second, you're telling me that in nine months or less, they came up with this medication, right?
	No testing, no long-term effects.
	I'm like, what the fuck?
	Yeah.
	Because also what happened was that when I was a very small child, I knew a couple of thalidomide babies.
	Thalidomide was a tranquilite, but kind of like a value that was given to pregnant women and the pregnant women's children.
	We're born without arms or legs.
	Most of them actually died.
	But the ones that survived didn't have arms or legs.
	Sometimes one or the other or sometimes both.
	And I remember there were a couple of kids who had suffered this.
	And I remember their little arms that were just like sticking out of their shoulder and they were like baby hands, okay?
	Now, this is, you know, back in the 70s, right?
	Yeah.
	And I was like, fuck!
	You know, I mean, it had a huge impact.
	And later on, I read about thalidomide and all the rest of it.
	And it was because there hadn't been enough testing because thalidomide, the drug, is actually very useful in different circumstances.
	It's very good for leprosy, for instance.
	That's why you don't see that many lepers around, because of thalidomide and other medications, of course.
	But the point is that, see, a drug in and of itself is just a tool, like a hammer.
	Sometimes the drug can be very effective for your particular situation, and other times it can be very detrimental.
	But the long-term effects, you can only find out with the long term.
	And so I was thinking, everybody's getting this fucking medication, and nobody has any long-term testing.
	I'm not going to fucking take it.
	Thank goodness my now ex-wife and I saw eye-to-eye on this.
	None of us took this shit.
	Because nobody knew the long-term effects.
	And now we're seeing the long-term effects.
	Myocarditis, people dropping dead, excess deaths.
	The excess deaths, they are off the charts and people are talking about it.
	Right now, something in Germany, they have 30% excess deaths of all causes that are not accidents, right?
	And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
	Mm-hmm.
	We know what's going on.
	It's a fucking jab.
	Then later, I remember in 2021, I want to say like spring of 2021, I started hearing about how this was actually mRNA technology.
	And I'm like, this is gene therapy, man, right?
	No, it's not gene therapy.
	It's just this new technology.
	It's fucking gene therapy.
	And I started reading into more about mRNA.
	And mRNA technology has been around since the mid-90s.
	Yeah.
	The problem with the mRNA technology is that all the lab animals kept dying.
	That was the thing.
	The lab animals, the little chimpanzees and shit, they would die from the shit.
	That's why the technology was never implemented.
	In any medication until this fucking thing.
	And then there's the other factor too that a lot of these pharmaceutical companies, their patents on other medications were running out and they needed to come up with some drug where they could make a lot of money because the patents were running out and they'd become widely available and they wouldn't have any money making drugs.
	And so they hit on mRNA, which are designer drugs that they can modify a little bit and hold on to the patent, essentially indefinitely.
	And so that's why they were getting into the mRNA technology as a money play.
	And fuck the people using it.
	They didn't give a shit.
	Long-term testing or anything like that.
	And you start looking at the data and you start realizing all the corners that they cut insofar as they're testing and FDA approval and such.
	Real fucking ugly shit.
	And also, the other thing that clued me the fuck in was when they said that the pharmaceutical companies would not be liable for damages from using the medication.
	Yep.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	I mean, like, what the fuck, man?
	Yeah.
	No, man.
	I mean, it's incredible how they were able to basically trap people in their homes for the better part of two years.
	You look at places like Toronto, Canada especially, Melbourne, Australia, California, Portland, Oregon, pretty much anywhere that's super liberal and woke was stuck inside for a large amount of time because of COVID, which is ridiculous.
	But Also, I have another point to make on this particular issue.
	In our society, we become so insane about safety.
	Is it safe?
	Is anything safe or some foreign country safe or some shit like that?
	We're so conservative insofar as safety, okay?
	And so what happens is that we are unwilling to accept that when our environment changes for whatever reason, a certain number of people are going to die.
	Of course.
	It's inevitable, okay?
	And it's the ugly reality of evolution, okay?
	So suppose, let's not even get into the issue of whether COVID is natural or man-made.
	It seems to be man-made.
	But let's suppose, for the sake of argument, that it had been natural.
	That it just emerged and actually killed off a big chunk of people.
	Let's assume.
	Well, unfortunately, that's part of life, of evolution.
	Because we human beings, we are the descendants of all the people who survived the various maladies that our species has endured over the millennia.
	Exactly.
	Over the millions of years.
	You know, so like, for instance, when malaria first appeared, it killed off most people.
	But the ones who survived were the ones who were immune to it or could somehow get over the symptoms of it and keep on reproducing.
	And so their children had the same immunity to malaria.
	Okay?
	Same with smallpox.
	Same with all the diseases.
	There are probably diseases that we have no idea about that happened 20, 30, 40, 50,000 years ago that wiped off most people or a big chunk of people.
	And the ones who survived, us, we are the descendants of those survivors.
	Well, we're immune to this disease.
	We don't even realize it's a deadly disease because it killed off the people who were-- the words .
	It killed off the people who could have gotten this disease.
	But the others who survived were immune to it.
	And that immunity was passed on to you and me.
	So we have to understand that this is part of life, of nature.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And it's an ugly reality.
	Because we always want to save everybody.
	We always want to make sure that everybody survives.
	But it's just a part of life, you know?
	And so anyway, about the malady, you know, like I said, in April of 2020, I realized it was bullshit because the homeless people and the junkies in Amsterdam weren't dropping dead like flies.
	And, you know, after that, I've come to the conclusion.
	And also, when they had those Black Lives Matter rallies in Hollywood Boulevard, right?
	You know, thousands and thousands of people.
	And they're saying, yeah, you can't visit granny at the hospice where she's dying.
	Yeah, you can go and protest Black Lives Matter.
	Fuck you.
	For some drug addict felon like George Floyd, yeah.
	You can go out and protest for him, but you can't go see your dying family member.
	Yeah, because, you know, the virus magically knows if you're a BLM supporter and in a BLM protest, it won't touch you.
	It won't.
	If you want to hug Granny as she lays dying there, then it'll fuck you up.
	Fuck you.
	Come on.
	Or, hey, you got to wear your mask to come into the restaurant, but when you sit down, you can take it off.
	Clown world, man.
	Fucking clown world.
	I will say that...
	Sorry, go ahead.
	I was going to say, all these fucking people, they had the protocols to what to do during a pandemic, and you know what the protocol basically amounted to?
	Just carry on.
	Just let it burn through the populace.
	And the people who are going to suffer, we're going to try to comfort them as best we can, but it's just going to burn through the population because there's nothing essentially that you can do.
	And all this lockdowns and all this shit was just a way for politicians to pretend to be doing something.
	And at the same time, also, we have to look at the political dimension.
	The United States went into hysterics over this shit.
	The Democratic Party did, because they wanted to torpedo Trump's economy.
	Because they were starting 2020, and it seemed that he was going to be a shoo-in to win re-election.
	And so by doing this lockdown, torpedoing the economy, They can ensure that Trump wouldn't be re-elected.
	That was the hope, at least.
	It's just all bullshit.
	It's the clown world, man.
	Yeah, no.
	Gonzalo, this was a fantastic interview, man.
	We covered everything from the war in Ukraine to trans, to gays.
	Are you speaking, by the way?
	I don't know if your mic is muted.
	No, I'm on.
	I'm here.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, we talked about everything from, you know, the collapse of the West coming, gays, 9-11 conspiracies, COVID, trans.
	Four and a half fucking hours, man.
	Yeah, it better be a fucking good show.
	Yeah, we talked about everything, man.
	Hey, so where can the people find you, man?
	And I'll give you the last word.
	This was probably one of the most base conversations we have ever had.
	I'm glad that we had it on Rumble because YouTube would have been banned us by now.
	You know, you can find me on my Twitter feed.
	That's the easiest.
	Go to my Twitter feed, you know, because whenever I post anything on my YouTube channels, I'll post it there.
	So, and I keep the Twitter feed updated.
	So, yeah, you can go there and you'll definitely catch me.
	So, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
	And send me the link to the Rumble show.
	Absolutely.
	And I'll post it on my Twitter feed, yeah.
	Absolutely.
	This has been a lot of fun, you know?
	I mean, look, I didn't have anything better to do on my morning, and I thought we'd go for a couple of hours, but for the half fucking hours, man.
	Jesus.
	Sorry, man.
	No, it was my pleasure.
	I hope I didn't board the audience.
	I mean, audience, well, I can't see the chat, but audience hit me with a plus one if you enjoyed the show.
	Yeah, no, they definitely did.
	And what I will say also...
	I'd like to have you on more periodically so that people can get updates and see what's going on.
	Because I was trying to reach out to you, but I think, you know, the old telegram that me and you used to communicate when was gone.
	And, you know, this was right after, you know, the SBU stuff.
	So, yeah, no worries.
	We'll keep in contact.
	And, guys, I'll bring Gonzalo on more periodically so you guys can get updates on what's going on and get a more base take from...
	This is basically like the base, you know, uncle that you guys probably don't have.
	Bring me on with other guests because, you know, I mean, I think it might be boring for your audience if they have to look at my ugly mug for the whole show.
	So it'd be fun to be with other people too, yeah.
	How about...
	Let me know in the chat if you don't want Gonzalo Lero or Ryan Dawson.
	Maybe I'll do that on Rumble exclusively.
	If you guys want something on the chat, man.
	I'd like to go on a show.
	I mean, I know you usually have your female guests with your male guests all in studio, but I'd love to be on a show with some of those girls, you know?
	Because I'd love to hear the bullshit that they believe.
	I mean, I think it's funny, okay?
	It's so detached from reality that it's funny.
	You can't leave Ukraine right now, right?
	Damn.
	I'm stuck here.
	As a practical matter, there's no way to leave.
	And I'm ordered by the SBU until my case is dismissed or I'm punished.
	I'm supposed to be a Russian agent or some shit like that.
	But it's been fucking...
	It's April, so we're talking about eight, nine months now?
	Yeah.
	And, you know, the thing that bothers me the most is I haven't got my fucking phone back.
	I don't have a phone.
	I have this shitty ass computer, which I shouldn't say I'm actually stroking it gently because this thing is my only lifeline to the outside world.
	Yeah.
	And it was like this old computer from 2015.
	That I was using just for writing.
	It just has limited power and such.
	But it served me really well.
	I'm getting my money's worth from this computer right now.
	But yeah, I still don't know what's going to happen to me insofar as charges or whatever.
	And I've been told that I can't leave Ukraine.
	And as a practical matter, I can't leave because there's no real transportation system anymore.
	So yeah, it's not really possible.
	Well, hey man, like I said before, we wish you the best and I'll bring you on periodically and we'll definitely do some shows.
	I think people would really love the collabs.
	And, you know, I'll give you the last word.
	No, and thank you so much for having me on.
	It's been a real pleasure and the time really flew by.
	I had a great time.
	I hope your audience enjoyed it too.
	And I hope that you guys did too.
	And I don't know if Fresh is still there.
	Send him my best if he's not.
	And yeah, I bet that Fresh went to sleep because it's like four in the morning your time.
	Yeah, he's dead.
	But it's okay, though.
	I'm prepared.
	I slept the whole day because I knew this interview was going to be lit and we're going to have some really good conversation for the people.
	Thank you so much.
	And I look forward to being on again.
	Christina, hit the...
	Yeah, so, okay, yeah.
	So, guys, check him out.
	All his links are below.
	Make sure to check out his YouTube channel, man.
	One of my favorite content creators.
	So, if I like him, I know you guys are going to like him.
	I love y'all.
	We'll be back for a call-in show probably tonight.
	Later, well, technically later today at 7 p.m.
	So, I'm going to get some sleep here and then do another show for y'all in a few hours.
	Gonzalo, thank you so much for coming on the show, guys.
	Go check him out.
	Like the video.
	We'll catch you guys on the next one.
	Peace.

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