Epoch Times - “For churches, it’s either you capitulate or you die”

Feb. 19, 2026 - Epoch Times

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“For churches, it’s either you capitulate or you die” | Grace Jin Drexel

Grace Jin Drexel examines China’s forced church registration system, where state-mandated compliance requires licenses revoked if sermons or worship songs deviate from Communist Party demands—despite claims these aren’t political. Authorities now dictate sacred content, undermining religious autonomy under laws like the 2018 Religious Affairs Regulations, turning dissent into a threat to survival. The episode reveals how state control reshapes faith itself, forcing churches to choose between silence and extinction. [Automatically generated summary]
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Religious Freedom's Illusion 00:01:24
	We've always hear whenever we bring up like religious freedom, in situations like my father's church, they will say, there is religious freedom in China.
	All you have to do is join the government and register with the government um, and and then again, like in a situation like this, they say, well, if you don't break the law, if you join our channels, then like you can, you can do whatever you want.
	But what most people don't understand is that in order to join the channels, you have to have special like, you have to get special license, and then only special licensed people can view it, and then all of that is then um being monitored and being censored.
	And if you don't have um, if you don't preach exactly like what the communist China leadership wants you to preach, then you get your license revoked, etc etc.
	So again you, you can, you can say you have freedom, and yet by the action, the very action that you do, you are limiting um.
	Sacred parts of your, your life, not like these are sermons and worship songs.
	They're not um, they're not political things, they're not um.
	Yeah, like they are.
	They should be in the realm of the church and not in the realm of party officials, um.

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Religious Freedom's Illusion 00:01:24

We've always hear whenever we bring up like religious freedom, in situations like my father's church, they will say, there is religious freedom in China.

All you have to do is join the government and register with the government um, and and then again, like in a situation like this, they say, well, if you don't break the law, if you join our channels, then like you can, you can do whatever you want.

But what most people don't understand is that in order to join the channels, you have to have special like, you have to get special license, and then only special licensed people can view it, and then all of that is then um being monitored and being censored.

And if you don't have um, if you don't preach exactly like what the communist China leadership wants you to preach, then you get your license revoked, etc etc.

So again you, you can, you can say you have freedom, and yet by the action, the very action that you do, you are limiting um.

Sacred parts of your, your life, not like these are sermons and worship songs.

They're not um, they're not political things, they're not um.

Yeah, like they are.

They should be in the realm of the church and not in the realm of party officials, um.