June 25, 2025 - Epoch Times
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| We have thirty-two cabinet ministers, which is ludicrous. | |
| I think Norway has eighteen and Argentina has nine. | |
| Thirty-two cabinet ministers, and we have two deputy ministers. | |
| We have seventy-five ministers altogether, all with security and blue lights and flying business class everywhere. | |
| Huge waste, huge expense. | |
| But that's not the point I'm trying to make. | |
| The point I'm trying to make is that the Democratic Alliance, when they were negotiating with the ANC for their ministerial positions, were not given trade and industry, foreign affairs, treasury, finance, any of the key positions that affect economic growth, ideology. | |
| And, you know, we're one year into our coalition government, first time in 30 years, and they're finding their feet. | |
| But the ANC is still trying to push forward their racist and socialist ideology. | |
| And the coalition is only just now working out how to say no, how to coach the ANC ministers on talking to coalition partners and agreeing things before they announce them. | |
| It's finding its feet. | |
| And anyone who's looking from a distance will say, democracy is working in South Africa. | |
| And it is. | |
| We have free speech. | |
| The fact that I can speak as openly as I do would not be the case in Iran, China, Russia, and many other countries. | |
| I'd have disappeared by now or been taken out. | |
| But I can speak freely in South Africa. | |
| We have free speech. | |
| Democracy is working. | |
| But it's working very, very slowly. | |
| And our next national election is 2029. | |
| And I'm not sure our economy is going to make it till then, for a start. | |
| Now, you said something quite strong. | |
| You said that there's racist policies in place. | |
| And so explain to me why you believe that. | |
| So there are 140 race-based policies in South African law. | |
| And the vast majority, 114 of them, 114, were introduced since 1994. | |
| And many of them are definitively anti-white. | |
| They may be written as supporting or benefiting previously disadvantaged people. | |
| But when you read between the lines, they are fundamentally anti-white. | |
| They're racist. | |
| We also have laws, black economic empowerment, all started off as a good thing where everyone accepted the previously disadvantaged, which by the way meant all different black tribes, colored people and Indian people, need to be empowered in the economy. | |
| And everyone bought into that. | |
| Corporates, white people, and said, this is a good thing. | |
| We need to help the previously disadvantaged. | |
| What that has turned into is trillions of Rand have been looted from the government and forced through black economic empowerment to benefit 100 elite families. | |
| So if you are a colored South African, an Indian South African, not a loyalist to the ANC or from a different black tribe, you just aren't black enough for black economic empowerment. | |
| It's been mafia-style looting, breaking and looting at the most sophisticated level. | |
| And so essentially what you're saying is that there is obviously this modicum of freedom that you're describing. | |
| But at the same time, the policies, even with this coalition government, which is presumably already somewhat more moderate, basically the economy is still being driven into the ground and you're expecting basically chaos to reign if that actually happens. | |
| 100% right, John. | |
| You've nailed it. | |
| People say to me, hang on, Rob, you've got a coalition government with a centrist group like the Democratic Alliance. | |
| How come expropriation without compensation, the most damagingly named bill you could ever imagine, has been signed into law under its watch? | |
| Well, the reality was the whole thing had been pre-prepared by the ANC beforehand. | |
| It all saw it. | |
| The opposition parties weren't part of the coalition at that point, and it was forced through, as were so many other laws, quickly, in time. | |
| Now that the coalition's in place and they've gained the courage to say no to the ANC, the racist and socialist ideology that's being forced upon South Africa is being slowed. | |
| But there are elements that people need to be aware of. | |
| I'll give you a very interesting example. | |
| When the ministries were being debated and handed out, Helen Ziller, who's the chairman of the Democratic Alliance Federal Committee and a real lioness of South Africa, an extraordinary woman, said to me an interesting thing. | |
| She said, for some reason, the ANC won't let us come anywhere near the Department of Foreign Affairs, which is known as the Department of International Relations Cooperative, DERCO. | |
| They won't even give us a deputy director, a deputy minister. | |
| And we found out why. | |
| Because the Islamists in the ANC, funded by Iran, wanted to control foreign affairs so they could put forward the case the ICJ case against Israel, send a really nasty Islamist as our ambassador to Washington, who then publicly called Donald Trump a white supremacist and a racist. | |
| And America said, well, you can go back to South Africa then. | |
| And the Islamists of the ANC have controlled the Department of Foreign Affairs. | |
| In addition, during the ANC's reign, all of the state-owned enterprises, the Electricity Supply Commission, Transnet, which is the rail network, the ports, South African Airways, were all captured by the state. | |
| Any position of power in any state-owned enterprise, including down to municipal and town level, where a budget was involved, were given to loyalists, or what they called cadres, C-A-D-R-E. | |
| In South Africa, they called them cadres, but I know it's cadre. | |
| So they put loyalists who were mostly incompetent into positions of power, positions of influence, and they captured the heights of the economy and the heights of Democracy. | |
| Our country, I'll give you two statistics that'll horrify you, is growing at less than 1% GDP and has been for the last five years. | |
| It's barely growing, and our population growth is at 2%. | |
| We're getting poorer every year. | |
| Our fixed investment is 15% of GNP, whereas an emerging market should be 25%. | |
| We are being deindustrialized, and every single one of our state enterprises is bankrupt. | |
| And here's the worst one of all. | |
| Our official unemployment rate is 33%. | |
| But we have a youth unemployment of 60%, the worst in the world by far. | |
| And this is 100% as a result of the ANC and its racist and socialist policies. | |
| It has failed South Africa, failed all of the people of South Africa. | |
| And it's very, very worrying. | |
| Very prominently, a number of white South Africans came to the U.S. as refugees. | |
| And can you just kind of explain to me what happened there? | |
| And does that make sense to you? | |
| Those are economic refugees. | |
| There is economic genocide taking place, thanks to the ANC. | |
| And these are people that have absolutely no hope of making a life in South Africa and have taken up the offer from America to come to America as refugees. | |
| They just don't look like the refugees that most people have in their minds, you know, worn down, dirty, desperate. | |
| But they are. | |
| They have no chance in South Africa. | |
| And, you know, we have racial policies that restrict people's ability to get jobs, to get into sporting teams. | |
| We have sporting quotas all the way down from our national team down to school teams. | |
| And it's insidious. | |
| It's malevolent and insidious. | |
| And I don't blame these people for taking up the offer. | |
| I think some of them are economic opportunists, want to get to America for a better life. | |
| But isn't that what a refugee is? |
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