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| One of the things that California does up and down the state statewide and locally is they essentially make some part of your business a crime or a violation of an administrative rule and then they make you do mitigation. | |
| For instance, you can't run your refinery without emitting greenhouse gases and they're going to define that as a violation and they're going to require you to buy a permit to do it. | |
| If you're going to build housing in an outlying area, that's sprawl. | |
| And sprawl is bad for the climate. | |
| You have to mitigate the damage that you're doing to the climate by causing people to live in your area and drive to work. | |
| And if you don't buy a permit, you're in violation, and then they can make more penalties, more mitigation fees. | |
| To have a house and a job is not damage. | |
| And by defining it as damage, they're causing the inversion of all of our values. | |
| They do this to developers. | |
| They do this to businesses. | |
| They do this to everybody. | |
| It's illegal to do such and such, but if you pay us, that's okay then. |